San Francisco Business Owner: I'm Closing My Store Because This Is a "City of Chaos" Where Productive People Are Made to Be the Slaves of the Violent, the Criminal, and the Insane
Updated: Why Don't You Just Pay for Social Services For the Homeless?

Well I added a bit. He did call it a "City of Chaos," though.

Daily Wire describes Dave Smith's business Cotopaxi like this:


Cotopaxi, named for an active volcano in the rugged Andes Mountains of Ecuador, is a competitor of Patagonia that sells outdoor clothing and gear and touts its commitment to the environment, global hunger, and other causes. But Smith, who founded the Utah-based company in 2014, said his business never had a chance in the City by the Bay.

Smith posted his announcement on his LinkedIn page.

It's short. It's worth the full read.


It's sad, but San Francisco appears to have descended into a city of chaos. Many streets and parks are overrun with drugs, criminals, and homelessness, and local leadership and law enforcement enable it through inaction. One of the most beautiful and amazing cities in the world is now a place where many no longer feel safe visiting or living.

Grand opening -- grand looting.


We opened a retail store a year ago on Hayes Street, the charming shopping district just blocks away from the famous Full House home. Our first week there, our windows were smashed and thousands of dollars of product was stolen.

They replaced the windows, and big store windows are expensive.

They replaced them four more times -- because looters smashed them four more times.

We replaced the window, and it immediately happened again (four times). We replaced with window with plywood as we waited for a month+ to get a metal security gate installed (demand for those gates is creating huge delays).

We let the criminals out of the jails so we could turn our homes and businesses into prisons.


As of today, we are closing the store due to rampant organized theft and lack of safety for our team. Our store is hit by organized theft rings several times per week.

You mean dedicated Black Lives Matter activists are liberating your colonizer goods in the name of emancipation, Bigot.

They brazenly enter the store and grab thousands of dollars of product and walk out. We started keeping the door locked and opening it only for customers, but even then, they'll have a woman go to the door, and then hiding individuals rush into the store as soon as the door opens. Our team is terrified. They feel unsafe.

Actually unsafe -- not "I heard Matt Walsh say something I disagreed with" unsafe.

Security guards don't help because these theft rings know that security guards won't/can't stop them.

No, every guard and LEO now know that if offers the slightest force against a criminal and the criminal suffers so much a scraped knee, he's going to prison.

The criminal, on the other hand, goes free.

Why even bother paying security guards? Just to show the criminals where the exits are, I guess.

It's impossible for a retail store to operate in these circumstances, especially when cities refuse to take any action (despite us paying taxes well above any other state we operate in). The city recently announced a reduction of police presence in this neighborhood, despite mass-scale crime.

Defund the police = defund the economy = defund civilization.


It makes me sad that I'm now avoiding San Francisco, a city I used to love. Last time my wife and I went in 2020, a drugged up person ran up to my wife's face and started screaming some of the most obscene things I've ever heard. She was terrified.

Are you Sanity-Shaming him, bigot?


During a previous trip, my rental car was broken into and everything was stolen out of our trunk. When calling the police to report the theft, they let us know this happens hundreds of times per day in the city and said it was our own fault for parking in the street.

In a way, I guess. People should flee the plague.

I grew up in Latin America and spent much of my adult life there, and I never felt this unsafe there. Something has to change in San Francisco.

It will.

It will get worse, and then California will demand the American taxpayers spend trillions to rebuild it, so they can burn it all down again.

Fuck you.

I'm with BLM -- Let it burn.

I'm progressive!

Update: Two comments left at this post -- one demands the government spend more money on social welfare, the next demands the shop-owner pay money to create a "community" and "services" for the homeless people molesting his wife.

What about the thieves? Should he pay them a Guaranteed Income Stipend?

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Its sad how almost every comment in here is saying we should use more violence and show less empathy in these circumstances, which is what started this problem in the first place. Grand idea, what if instead of treating property and capital as more important than humans, we start investing in affordable housing, social services for low-income and dispossessed peoples (actual services - with no strings attached), and begin to actually look at the root causes of the issues of San Fran (untethered capital interests and government corruption) as opposed to damning the individuals that are just victims of the problem. I don't think Cotopaxi is at fault for anything that has happened, but the idea that this has not been created and perpetuated by our current system is preposterous.



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I don't know why I am commenting on a post with this much attention because I find it pointless, but I do have to ask something. Has Cotopaxi or the businesses around tried to create some community for the homeless and unfortunate in that area?

Something to the affect of let's watch out for each other? Cotopaxi and the other businesses serving breakfasts, or dinners and being welcoming? Funding some public bathrooms right near by and offering old/unsellable product for free. Offering day jobs doing some cleaning of the street?

Could you create a coalition of those who will protect your street or watch out for it because they know they are welcomed and loved there?

It may draw a lot of attention, more than you can handle, but if you could start a dialogue with people, should you try? Even if they may be addicts or mentally ill? Could those people help send a message that your street is safe and criminals beware, everyone here watches out for each other?

I would want to at least try that. Maybe you hire social workers to work at your store?

The comments are all like this.

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People complain about crime and lawlessness and the need for a greater police force...

No, more police won't help.

What you need to focus on is creating opportunities for the people feel that crime is their only opportunity for survival.

Brian Larson
Award-losing creative strategist, brand marketer and customer advocate.

"We do things differently." [Mocking the brand's slogan, I guess - ace.]

What if instead of amplifying tired rhetoric by calling for more police -- a conversation that propagates the existence of historically racist, oppressive, and violent institutions -- you used this platform to advocate for the vital programs -- education, health care, housing, etc. -- that need more funding to strengthen our communities and support more equitable well-being?

That would be different.

Posted by: Ace at 02:15 PM




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1 Don't hold your breath for change. Could be a mortal mistake.

Posted by: Catherine at October 19, 2022 02:15 PM (yoeiC)

2 Called 'em.

Posted by: Catherine at October 19, 2022 02:16 PM (yoeiC)

3 lolgf

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 19, 2022 02:16 PM (yHsuS)

4 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at October 19, 2022 02:16 PM (ei6zE)

5 How could anyone with basic cognition not see that a crime rampant society would victimize non-criminals?

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 19, 2022 02:16 PM (qVln6)

6 That guy might not have voted for it, but somebody did.

Posted by: huerfano, stochastic commenter at October 19, 2022 02:16 PM (dTFZY)

7 I wish DC would get a big taste of this. Nobody deserves it more

Posted by: CN at October 19, 2022 02:17 PM (Zzbjj)

8 Commenters were actually disputing that there was any such looting.

Posted by: ejochs at October 19, 2022 02:17 PM (lSFMQ)

9 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 02:18 PM (Zz0t1)

10 I grew up in Latin America and spent much of my adult life there
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Lite privilege.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 19, 2022 02:18 PM (lf83v)

11 Top 20...?!?

Posted by: Greyman27 at October 19, 2022 02:18 PM (RKLPC)

12 SF? We were talking about pooping outside in the last thread.

Posted by: wth at October 19, 2022 02:18 PM (v0R5T)

13 Well look at the time.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 19, 2022 02:18 PM (eYoxG)

14 San Francisco Business Owner: I'm Closing My Store Because This Is a "City of Chaos"


And yet you will CONTINUE to vote for Democrats and THAT EXACT SHIT.

Reap it, bitch.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 02:18 PM (Zz0t1)

15 Uh, and people who would LIKE to live in San Fran, are not the outdoors types.... they are city types.

I'd bet there are not many Bass Pro Shops in Downtown New Yawk City either...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 19, 2022 02:18 PM (oHd/0)

16 1960 San Francisco = City of Love a Flower Power

2022 San Francisco = Mad Max

Posted by: Archer at October 19, 2022 02:19 PM (gmo/4)

17 SF? We were talking about pooping outside in the last thread.
Posted by: wth at October 19, 2022 02:18 PM (v0R5T)
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I guess when you go in the street, "overhand" or "underhand" takes on a different meaning when TP ain't readily available...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 19, 2022 02:19 PM (YIVH2)

18 I don't give a fuck about SF. They gave us Pelosi, reap the whirlwind

Posted by: CN at October 19, 2022 02:19 PM (Zzbjj)

19 They do that in Portland too. Tell them that folks on the WA side no longer go into Portland to shop and they will claim that they do to avoid the sales tax. It doesn't work that way. If you don't feel safe, you won't go.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at October 19, 2022 02:19 PM (5HBd1)

20 SFers have the city government they voted for

no crying now

Posted by: DB at October 19, 2022 02:19 PM (geLO8)

21 Listen, when an app has to be used to find out which streets have the most human excrement on the sidewalks and thus be avoided, city leaders have lost the plot on what makes the civil society tick.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 19, 2022 02:20 PM (oJb1g)

22 >>>7 I wish DC would get a big taste of this. Nobody deserves it more


but it has gotten a taste of this -- a friend who lives there described all the ground-level shops having plywooded-up "windows" and there being almost zero street traffic.

Union Station, he said, is just a shooting gallery for drug addicted derelicts.

That was about six months ago. I don't imagine it's gotten better.

Posted by: ace at October 19, 2022 02:20 PM (C1Zwz)

23 20. Exactly

Posted by: CN at October 19, 2022 02:20 PM (Zzbjj)

24 We started keeping the door locked and opening it only for customers, but even then, they'll have a woman go to the door, and then hiding individuals rush into the store as soon as the door opens. Our team is terrified. They feel unsafe.

Buy a bat. Crack some skulls. They'll stop.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 02:20 PM (Zz0t1)

25 Again I ask, how can anyone even close to sane EVER vote for a democrat again?

Posted by: democrats, Kidnapping, Raping and Mutilating the Children TheyCannot Kill Since 1973! at October 19, 2022 02:20 PM (HaByS)

26 San Francisco:

You voted for this. I have no fucks to give.

Posted by: Archer at October 19, 2022 02:20 PM (gmo/4)

27 Dave Smith will go a little bit of the way there, but he will never let himself go all the way there. Sorry your city sucks. The ending has always been obvious.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 19, 2022 02:20 PM (sX1BW)

28 >>>10 I grew up in Latin America and spent much of my adult life there
___________
Lite privilege.

jajaja

Posted by: ace at October 19, 2022 02:20 PM (C1Zwz)

29 Let it burn.

Posted by: Brewingfrog at October 19, 2022 02:21 PM (ABDu3)

30 but it has gotten a taste of this -- a friend who lives there described all the ground-level shops having plywooded-up "windows" and there being almost zero street traffic.

Union Station, he said, is just a shooting gallery for drug addicted derelicts.

That was about six months ago. I don't imagine it's gotten better.
Posted by: ace at October 19, 2022 02:20 PM (C1Zwz)
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This is what the Left wants for ALL America, from the smallest communities of a few dozen folks to the largest cities in the land!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 19, 2022 02:21 PM (YIVH2)

31 I think this could happen to all our major cities, in time

just turn them into post-apocalyptic preserves, jungle law

Posted by: DB at October 19, 2022 02:21 PM (geLO8)

32 Bring back King Norton I!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 02:21 PM (PTVZy)

33 Sounds like he's used to Utah

Posted by: NCKate at October 19, 2022 02:21 PM (0R0Vd)

34 How does this fellow vote?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 19, 2022 02:21 PM (ppBhU)

35 Let it burn indeed. Probably Hispanic gangs though. California is not well-positioned governance-wise for the coming conflict, though it otherwise would have a lot of potential.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 19, 2022 02:21 PM (eYoxG)

36 SFO needs Paul Kersey. Desperately.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 02:21 PM (Zz0t1)

37 22. But they're missing the looting and encampment. They need those...and the MS13 tatted up zoo animals

Posted by: CN at October 19, 2022 02:21 PM (Zzbjj)

38 >>>Posted by: Ace at 03:15 PM


Hmmm.

Wonder if Ace can give me some winning lotto numbers from the future?

Posted by: neurosis of the liver at October 19, 2022 02:21 PM (48d9R)

39 Inmates running the asylum.

Posted by: Greyman27 at October 19, 2022 02:22 PM (RKLPC)

40 HOW DARE YOU make me suffer the consequences of my actions!

Posted by: Liberals at October 19, 2022 02:22 PM (ESjRY)

41 It's all because we never finished High Speed Rail! So those folks who are redistributing Wealth, can't get to the Central Valley to redistribute there!

Posted by: Gov. Gruesome at October 19, 2022 02:22 PM (oHd/0)

42 Gee you'd figure an ancap comedian like Dave Smith would have more sense than having a business in San Fran these days.

Posted by: Augustine at October 19, 2022 02:22 PM (BDZWU)

43 I think after the second time they smashed the plate glass, I'd have sprung for inch-thick plexiglass.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 19, 2022 02:22 PM (2hcT+)

44 Again I ask, how can anyone even close to sane EVER vote for a democrat again?
Posted by: democrats, Kidnapping, Raping and Mutilating the Children TheyCannot Kill Since 1973! at October 19, 2022 02:20 PM (HaByS)
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I'm not convinced they do anymore...The Democratic machinery is so efficient that they just need enough warm bodies in their districts to provide plausible evidence that the people "voted" for Democrat governance.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 19, 2022 02:22 PM (YIVH2)

45 @25

>>Again I ask, how can anyone even close to sane EVER vote for a democrat again?

It seems that the Democrat coalition seems to be composed of childless single women, gays and transsexuals' and the criminally insane, plenty of overlap in that Venn Diagram.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 19, 2022 02:22 PM (oJb1g)

46 another 1906 style quake may be in order.

Posted by: wth at October 19, 2022 02:22 PM (v0R5T)

47 "... touts its commitment to the environment, global hunger, and other causes."

quelle surprise!

Posted by: Fat Jonah of Krypton at October 19, 2022 02:22 PM (V5K0E)

48 No, every guard and LEO now know that if offers the slightest force against a criminal and the criminal suffers so much a scraped knee, he's going to prison.

The solution is to let them, lock the doors, slaughter them all, chop up the bodies, and repeat until problem solved. You just never tell anyone about it.

Posted by: WiNO at October 19, 2022 02:23 PM (EpDzw)

49 and touts its commitment to the environment, global hunger, and other causes

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I think I understand the problem.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 19, 2022 02:23 PM (sX1BW)

50 The linked in comments are all from unsympathetic leftoids

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at October 19, 2022 02:23 PM (2xlV3)

51 Probably Hispanic gangs though. California is not well-positioned governance-wise for the coming conflict, though it otherwise would have a lot of potential.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 19, 2022 02:21 PM (eYoxG)

Nope, primarily Black gangs coming over from Oakland.

Posted by: Gov. Gruesome at October 19, 2022 02:23 PM (oHd/0)

52 Rooftop Koreans would fix a lot of this...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 19, 2022 02:23 PM (PiwSw)

53 California is a liberal shithole unfit for human life and prosperity, yet that asshole Newsom is going to ride that commie wave all the way to DC.

We are a stupid society and are going to be fucked for a LONG time to come.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 02:23 PM (Zz0t1)

54 I bet the urban camper type looters are going for the high-end collapsible doggy hiking water dishes for their pitty mix mongrels.

Made from Gaia friendly sustainable recyclable materials.

The drinking dishes, not the pitties.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 19, 2022 02:23 PM (kXYt5)

55
Ya know what?

I'ma start going to San Fran on vacations. Big ol' rich-ass city where theft is legal, and I'm guaranteed to find people I despise everywhere I look, whether they be sheep or wolves. They're all puds and CHUDs.

I'll take the wife and kids on safari. We'll go to upscale shops all day for a couple days, looting like crazy, and then pack up all our booty in crates, ship it back home, and put it up on the wife's online store.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2022 02:23 PM (oINRc)

56 Long live the Empire of Crime!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 19, 2022 02:23 PM (LvTSG)

57 When the dead bodies start stacking up, nobody will give a shit because the neighborhood will be vacant.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 19, 2022 02:23 PM (z+OQR)

58 This guy is a republican running for a local college district board. Every national republican must be called on to denounce this! Mr Trump, do you condemn the masturbatory actions of this candidate?

“[Kaufman] appeared to be looking at a cell phone in one hand,” the police report said. “I immediately became alarmed as I saw [Kaufman] had his pants down mid-thigh and was exposed showing his fully erect nude penis. [Kaufman] was manipulating his genitals in a masturbatory manner.”
The officer said Kaufman didn’t seem to notice the officer at first, but that Kaufman was in view of a nearby bicyclist and a preschool where children were playing outside. When confronted, the officer said, Kaufman apologized for the act.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 19, 2022 02:24 PM (TiGPW)

59 Fuck you.

I'm with BLM -- Let it burn.

I'm progressive!
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We're all Progressives, now. Bring on the civil war.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at October 19, 2022 02:24 PM (tygJ+)

60 30
'This is what the Left wants for ALL America, from the smallest communities of a few dozen folks to the largest cities in the land!'

And this is why I DO have fucks to give. Not for the democrats; of course they deserve it. Because I want criminals stopped, period.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 19, 2022 02:24 PM (qVln6)

61 Bring back Karl Malden and Michael Douglas!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 02:24 PM (PTVZy)

62 It seems that the Democrat coalition seems to be composed of childless single women, gays and transsexuals' and the criminally insane, plenty of overlap in that Venn Diagram.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 19, 2022 02:22 PM (oJb1g)
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Which wouldn't be so bad except that the main way these groups have to propagate their deranged lunacies is through your children in public education.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 19, 2022 02:24 PM (YIVH2)

63 That's weird, Dave Smith died in May???

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 19, 2022 02:24 PM (oJb1g)

64 "The drinking dishes, not the pitties."

You could compost the pitties, that's environmentally friendly

Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 19, 2022 02:24 PM (2hcT+)

65 Again I ask, how can anyone even close to sane EVER vote for a democrat again?

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This guy may be sane, but he is also delusional. He will rationalize it in his mind with the same old ... real communism has never been tried mentality which will allow him to continue to vote Democrat - just not for the current shitty democrats.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 19, 2022 02:24 PM (sX1BW)

66 You voted for this for over thirty years sport.

Posted by: sven at October 19, 2022 02:25 PM (Lzpvj)

67 30 encampments on Embassy Row and Kalorama would help. A few dozen violent criminals near Sidwell. They'd go all Vinyard in about 30 minutes

Posted by: CN at October 19, 2022 02:25 PM (Zzbjj)

68 This is what you voted for; did you not listen to a single word the democrats said when they were running for office?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 19, 2022 02:25 PM (lTGtQ)

69 A lot of this can be placed squarely at the feet of our present VP.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, in vino veritas at October 19, 2022 02:25 PM (jTmQV)

70 cities are like children

misbehave and you get punished

isn't foolproof but with the appropriate amount of pressure

usually takes hold

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2022 02:25 PM (us2H3)

71 I'm waiting for the push to overturn Prop 13. CA is hemorrhaging money, and a move like that would give them a much needed injection of funds to throw at illegals and the French Laundry.

It's hard to believe I used to wander the streets of SF in the 70's as a young teen with zero worries. I swore I'd never go back after my last trip around 2007 when Newsom was still in charge. It was horrific then, I can't even imagine what sort of hellhole it is these days. The SF Morons are made of stronger stuff than I am, that's for sure.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at October 19, 2022 02:25 PM (zB/T/)

72 Just about every city in America is becoming a lawless hellhole.

Just about every city in America has a liberal Democrat mayor.

What a round of bad luck!

Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2022 02:25 PM (ESjRY)

73 How could anyone with basic cognition not see that a crime rampant society would victimize non-criminals?

Non-criminals don't reliably vote for Democrats. So, as Crowder says, they're making criminals into citizens and citizens into criminals.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 19, 2022 02:25 PM (ZGrMX)

74 Dirty Harry weeps.

Posted by: wth at October 19, 2022 02:25 PM (v0R5T)

75 After we make our triumphant return, you'll really be able to leave your heart in San Francisco!

Posted by: Aztecs at October 19, 2022 02:25 PM (a3Q+t)

76 I'll take the wife and kids on safari. We'll go to upscale shops all day for a couple days, looting like crazy, and then pack up all our booty in crates, ship it back home, and put it up on the wife's online store.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2022 02:23 PM (oINRc)
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heh...The SanFranMoMe is gonna be lit, y'all!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 19, 2022 02:25 PM (YIVH2)

77 69 A lot of this can be placed squarely at the feet of our present VP.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, in vino veritas at October 19, 2022 02:25 PM (jTmQV)
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Her knees you mean.

Posted by: Willie Brown at October 19, 2022 02:26 PM (BDZWU)

78 Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at October 19, 2022 02:25 PM (zB/T/)

Yet somehow, through some Magic of taxation, they had a major tax surplus last year.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 19, 2022 02:26 PM (oHd/0)

79 The best way to solve this would be to wall in the cities for 5 years and air drop food every so often.

After 5 years I am sure the survivors would have a very different world view.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2022 02:26 PM (ESjRY)

80
Obligatory video of skid row in Philly, showing what the commie cocksucker Donks want to bring to every city and town in America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bi1Kf-1qd6Y

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 19, 2022 02:26 PM (n+4am)

81 Just about every city in America has a liberal Democrat mayor.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2022 02:25 PM (ESjRY)
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Uh, like, pointing that out makes you a racist.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at October 19, 2022 02:26 PM (tygJ+)

82 I grew up in Latin America and spent much of my adult life there, and I never felt this unsafe there. Something has to change in San Francisco.

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Sounds like the whole "refugee from criminality" thing they use to justify mass immigration is bunk, huh?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 19, 2022 02:26 PM (LvTSG)

83 I do not feel sorry for this guy. He probably voted for progressive candidates and politicians, based on his virtue signaling .

The people of San Fran got exactly what they wanted.

Enjoy the shit sandwich you made.

Posted by: Czech Chick at October 19, 2022 02:26 PM (haWye)

84 Outdoor equipment is a particularly poor choice for a downtown store these days. Its useful for the legal shoplifters in an absolute sense.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2022 02:27 PM (eoQWY)

85 Bring back Karl Malden and Michael Douglas!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 02:24 PM (PTVZy)

Shit on the Streets of San Francisco

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at October 19, 2022 02:27 PM (OgrpQ)

86
I'll take the wife and kids on safari. We'll go to upscale shops all day for a couple days, looting like crazy, and then pack up all our booty in crates, ship it back home, and put it up on the wife's online store.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2022 02:23 PM (oINRc)



Hope you ain't white. You ain't gettin away with dat shit if you white. UNLESS you have dreadlocks, stink like you haven't showered in 3 weeks and have an pAntifa hoodie and bandana mask.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 02:27 PM (Zz0t1)

87 One of the most beautiful and amazing cities in the world...
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Unfortunately, he is not wrong.

I enjoyed most of the time I spent in SF twenty years ago for a tech conference.

Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 02:27 PM (krQz2)

88 Has Dave Smith ever once advocated for more policing, for more incarceration, for locking people up?

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 19, 2022 02:27 PM (sX1BW)

89 Reading the LinkedIn comments is very interesting.
First comment: "... instead of treating property and capital as more important than humans, we start investing in affordable housing..."
Second comment: "Has Cotopaxi or the businesses around tried to create some community for the homeless and unfortunate in that area?"
4th comment: "What if instead...you used this platform to advocate for the vital programs..."

His fault, he shoulda done something to improve conditions in the community. No blame for SF and the ones who run that shit show.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 02:27 PM (ynpvh)

90 Hire the local gang as security and give them a cut of the profits. They won't care at all about roughing/up or beating down the shoplifters. Revolving door for them as well for the low-level thugs. Shoplifters will soon learn which businesses to avoid and hit easier targets. Knew a guy who's family kind of did this, employed a couple of gang leaders since probation required they have a job. One of their trucks was stolen, the gang had it back within 24 hours, and nothing of theirs was ever stolen again.

Posted by: You're in hell, the world ended at October 19, 2022 02:27 PM (hVU3V)

91 What I'm hearing is that John Carpenter needs to make another "Escape From" movie...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 19, 2022 02:27 PM (PiwSw)

92 How could anyone with basic cognition not see that a crime rampant society would victimize non-criminals?


Reading the comments on the articles the only reason people are robbing these stores is that CA isn't spending enough to help the poor.

Yet somehow when CA spent less in the old bad "racist" years, there was less crime...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2022 02:27 PM (ESjRY)

93 We started keeping the door locked and opening it only for customers, but even then, they'll have a woman go to the door, and then hiding individuals rush into the store as soon as the door opens. Our team is terrified. They feel unsafe.

Walks over, locks door behind the looters.

"Now you'se can't leave..."

Posted by: Sonny from the Bronx at October 19, 2022 02:28 PM (4zHn9)

94 Uh, like, pointing that out makes you a racist.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at October 19, 2022 02:26 PM (tygJ+)

welcome to the party, pal

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2022 02:28 PM (us2H3)

95 You know, even in California, grabbing thousands of dollars of shit is illegal!

Way above the $950 they are allotted per visit!

Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 02:28 PM (krQz2)

96
You ain't gettin away with dat shit if you white. UNLESS you have dreadlocks, stink like you haven't showered in 3 weeks and have an pAntifa hoodie and bandana mask.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 02:27 PM (Zz0t1)

The fam's black - I'll just get some Antifa gear and get some fake dreds like the Trustafarians do. I'll easily be able to afford urban camo with my Cotopaxi and Dior and Prada $$$.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2022 02:28 PM (oINRc)

97 Bring back Bullitt!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 02:28 PM (PTVZy)

98 That's weird, Dave Smith died in May???

Different Dave Smith.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 19, 2022 02:28 PM (ZGrMX)

99 The great reset baby.

Gotta break a few eggs...

Gonna make you all dependent on Uncle Sugar. No heat, no food. No money (inflated away) What you gonna do? Give you all a basic income. Make your currency digital. Give you social credit scores to keep you in line and everyone else informing. What you gonna do?

Posted by: I'm just sayin at October 19, 2022 02:28 PM (zygt8)

100 "Our store is hit by organized theft rings several times per week."

I've been wondering for the last year where the homeless have been getting such nice tents. Now I know.

Posted by: pookysgirl, enlightened at October 19, 2022 02:28 PM (XKZwp)

101 89 Reading the LinkedIn comments is very interesting.
First comment: "... instead of treating property and capital as more important than humans, we start investing in affordable housing..."
Second comment: "Has Cotopaxi or the businesses around tried to create some community for the homeless and unfortunate in that area?"
4th comment: "What if instead...you used this platform to advocate for the vital programs..."

His fault, he shoulda done something to improve conditions in the community. No blame for SF and the ones who run that shit show.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 02:27 PM (ynpvh)

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His business is not his business. His business is taking care of the homeless. Start up your business with that mentality, everyone.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 19, 2022 02:29 PM (LvTSG)

102 I scrolled through the comments at his LinkedIn post. Typical libtard virtue signaling. They voted for this, they deserve it good and hard.

Posted by: Butch at October 19, 2022 02:29 PM (0APJ3)

103 San Francisco rammed it up his Grand Opening.

Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 02:29 PM (krQz2)

104 You're welcome.

Posted by: George Soros at October 19, 2022 02:29 PM (QYPq3)

105 Posted by: You're in hell, the world ended at October 19, 2022 02:27 PM (hVU3V)

Yeah, Dis the Mafia all you want... but they did protect certain neighborhood from UNAUTHORIZED crime.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 19, 2022 02:29 PM (oHd/0)

106 One day soon: Vigilantism. And they will wonder what happened to justice.

Posted by: squid_hunt at October 19, 2022 02:29 PM (vWOqq)

107 "I'm now avoiding San Francisco, a city I used to love. Last time my wife and I went in 2020, a drugged up person ran up to my wife's face and started screaming some of the most obscene things I've ever heard"

That was me in 1967. It was my bag, man. Just trying to get down and rap.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at October 19, 2022 02:29 PM (24fqN)

108 74 Dirty Harry weeps.
Posted by: wth at October 19, 2022 02:25 PM (v0R5T)

Nowadays a Harry Callahan-like figure would simply throw his badge into the lake like his namesake did at the end of Dirty Harry and be done with it, then fleeing for NV or AZ or TX.

Posted by: Thrawn at October 19, 2022 02:29 PM (Rl7KJ)

109 My dad grew up in San Leandro during WWII and went to SF State. He said he would never go back.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at October 19, 2022 02:29 PM (OgrpQ)

110 91 What I'm hearing is that John Carpenter needs to make another "Escape From" movie...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 19, 2022 02:27 PM (PiwSw)

Escape from SF?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 02:29 PM (ynpvh)

111 91 What I'm hearing is that John Carpenter needs to make another "Escape From" movie...
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 19, 2022 02:27 PM (PiwSw)

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Knowing Carpenter, it'll be Escape from Florida.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 19, 2022 02:29 PM (LvTSG)

112 The Democrats let in all of the illegals to do the cheap labor jobs Americans won't do, but the employers are fleeing for their lives because it a wild, wild west.

Bang, Bang!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 19, 2022 02:29 PM (z+OQR)

113 Hire the local gang as security and give them a cut of the profits. They won't care at all about roughing/up or beating down the shoplifters. Revolving door for them as well for the low-level thugs. Shoplifters will soon learn which businesses to avoid and hit easier targets. Knew a guy who's family kind of did this, employed a couple of gang leaders since probation required they have a job. One of their trucks was stolen, the gang had it back within 24 hours, and nothing of theirs was ever stolen again.
Posted by: You're in hell, the world ended at October 19, 2022 02:27 PM (hVU3V)
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Isn't that kind of how organized crime got started? Local law didn't do squat, so local gangs stepped in to maintain a semblance of law and order in exchange for "protection money."

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 19, 2022 02:29 PM (YIVH2)

114 91 What I'm hearing is that John Carpenter needs to make another "Escape From" movie...
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 19, 2022 02:27 PM (PiwSw)

Escape from the Female Black Mayor

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2022 02:29 PM (us2H3)

115 It's all good, brah! He's got business insurance!!

Posted by: Muldoon at October 19, 2022 02:29 PM (kXYt5)

116 When the dead bodies start stacking up, nobody will give a shit
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 19, 2022 02:23 PM


Dude. We take our sidewalk enhancement responsibilities seriously.

Posted by: Housing-Challenged Individual in San Francisco at October 19, 2022 02:30 PM (a3Q+t)

117
see

update

!!!

Posted by: ace at October 19, 2022 02:30 PM (C1Zwz)

118 His fault, he shoulda done something to improve conditions in the community. No blame for SF and the ones who run that shit show.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 02:27 PM (ynpvh)

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While being totally unable to make money in "The City".

Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 02:30 PM (krQz2)

119 83 I do not feel sorry for this guy. He probably voted for progressive candidates and politicians, based on his virtue signaling .

The people of San Fran got exactly what they wanted.

Enjoy the shit sandwich you made.
Posted by: Czech Chick
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Problem is that misery loves company and they want to bring this disorder to where others live to share the vibrancy.

Posted by: whig at October 19, 2022 02:30 PM (CXr4y)

120 We started keeping the door locked and opening it only for customers, but even then, they'll have a woman go to the door, and then hiding individuals rush into the store as soon as the door opens. Our team is terrified. They feel unsafe.

Buy a bat. Crack some skulls. They'll stop.


Put a rumor out on the street that all of The Good Stuff is in an alcove in the back of the store. Have Guido and the boys give them an Old Hickory Wood Shampoo and free Tune Up. About the same price as paying security and their bond premiums, and you get the satisfaction that your are funding the cleaning up of the neighborhood.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 19, 2022 02:30 PM (3hSHB)

121 I left my poop
In San Francisco

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 02:30 PM (PTVZy)

122 Insurance'll pay for that. Why so racist?

Posted by: t-bird at October 19, 2022 02:30 PM (dNNCD)

123
The fam's black - I'll just get some Antifa gear and get some fake dreds like the Trustafarians do. I'll easily be able to afford urban camo with my Cotopaxi and Dior and Prada $$$.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2022 02:28 PM (oINRc)


Well, then. You're IN!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 02:30 PM (Zz0t1)

124 Where's Mr. Bullitt and Mr. Callahan?

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at October 19, 2022 02:30 PM (Hudry)

125 95 You know, even in California, grabbing thousands of dollars of shit is illegal!

Way above the $950 they are allotted per visit!

Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 02:28 PM (krQz2)

$949 per person...if the crew is big enough.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 02:30 PM (ynpvh)

126 Knowing Carpenter, it'll be Escape from Florida.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 19, 2022 02:29 PM (LvTSG)

And I bet the gate in front of his mansion is very nice.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 19, 2022 02:30 PM (PiwSw)

127 Listen, when an app has to be used to find out which streets have the most human excrement on the sidewalks and thus be avoided, city leaders have lost the plot on what makes the civil society tick.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 19, 2022 02:20 PM (oJb1g)

They spent tons of money on the department to clean it up but nothing on shovels to actually do any cleaning.

That's a phase 2 or 3 job.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2022 02:30 PM (eoQWY)

128 98 That's weird, Dave Smith died in May???

the artist ??

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2022 02:30 PM (us2H3)

129 SF has never really been a safe, family friendly place. Not even when it was called Yerba Buena.
As for earthquakes, a poem was penned after '06

"They say that God spanked San Francisco
For being overly frisky
But why did God burn all the churches down
Yet spare Hotaling's Whisky?"

Posted by: gourmand du jour, in vino veritas at October 19, 2022 02:31 PM (jTmQV)

130 A lot of this can be placed squarely at the feet of our present VP.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, in vino veritas at October 19, 2022 02:25 PM (jTmQV)


Don't forget Governor Brylcreem. It's like they invented a 3rd world turbocharger and installed it on SF. Like I said, my last visit was 2007. My office closed down because PacBell park was going in across the street, so it had really only been 8 years or so, and the difference was staggering. I remember when the car break ins were a dirty little secret, and only in certain areas. Now you can't tell any difference between the Noe Valley, Fillmore, Pacific Heights or the Sunset. Well, I take that back. Nicer tents around the Castro.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at October 19, 2022 02:31 PM (zB/T/)

131 Tanned, rested and ready.

Posted by: Snake Plissken at October 19, 2022 02:31 PM (HmZuC)

132 Is there rainbow shit in the Castro district?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 19, 2022 02:31 PM (eGTCV)

133 Something to the affect of let's watch out for each other?

How do you people not know that I was being a sarcastic asshole?!?

Posted by: Cain at October 19, 2022 02:31 PM (ESjRY)

134 > Buy a bat. Crack some skulls. They'll stop.

Did you see this video? A crackhead tries opening a locked door by reaching in through the mail slot. An alert homeowner smacks the probing arm with a bat. Crackhead retreats with a broken arm.

https://bit.ly/3TeoGUN

Posted by: bonhomme at October 19, 2022 02:31 PM (i0wNm)

135 The solution is to let them, lock the doors, slaughter them all, chop up the bodies, and repeat until problem solved. You just never tell anyone about it.
Posted by: WiNO at October 19, 2022 02:23 PM (EpDzw)

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Defend ourselves? Is that legal?
- Calfornians

Posted by: Darth Randall at October 19, 2022 02:31 PM (bSzfQ)

136 @98

>>Different Dave Smith.

Looks over at Prophet 5 and weeps in sequential patterns.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 19, 2022 02:31 PM (oJb1g)

137 You got what you voted for.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 19, 2022 02:32 PM (Xrfse)

138 Isn't that kind of how organized crime got started? Local law didn't do squat, so local gangs stepped in to maintain a semblance of law and order in exchange for "protection money."
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel
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Not quite, most gangs got started offering illegal goods-gambling and prostitution for example, and fighting with each other for turf. Later after turf was established, then came the protection rackets.

Posted by: whig at October 19, 2022 02:32 PM (CXr4y)

139 Isn't that kind of how organized crime got started? Local law didn't do squat, so local gangs stepped in to maintain a semblance of law and order in exchange for "protection money."

Nothing New Under The Sun™

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 19, 2022 02:32 PM (3hSHB)

140 >>>What about the thieves? Should he pay them a Guaranteed Income Stipend?

Mugged by reality. You love to see it.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 19, 2022 02:32 PM (yHsuS)

141 I used to call San Francisco the jewel of the west. Last time I visited was in 2018, right before I left California to move elsewhere. It was still OK then, that memory will have to last. It makes me sad.

Posted by: mikethemoose at October 19, 2022 02:32 PM (QN7a1)

142 How could anyone with basic cognition not see that a crime rampant society would victimize non-criminals?

"Don't you get it? There are more black people in prison than white people, THE ONLY POSSIBLE EXPLANATION OF THAT IS RACISM!!!!1! We have to address this inequity!"
--Leftists

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 02:32 PM (Ivdso)

143 These idiots suggesting "more social programs" hate the criminals just as much as they hate the business owners.

By denying the agency of those who are breaking the law, they show open disdain for their basic humanity.

But, but spouting this crap they can show the world how compassionate and thoughtful and nuanced they are.

Posted by: Kevin Canuck at October 19, 2022 02:32 PM (jSz/T)

144 Scary thing to me is , roughly half the country is in favor of this and votes to enable the chaos.

Posted by: Tex at October 19, 2022 02:32 PM (z9V4B)

145 The job of the government is to keep out foreign invaders, stop domestic crime, and pave the roads.

Never has so little been done for so much

Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2022 02:32 PM (ESjRY)

146 His fault, he shoulda done something to improve conditions in the community. No blame for SF and the ones who run that shit show.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 02:27 PM (ynpvh)
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*sigh* local businesses do community outreach when they can afford to do so, not as their primary business model. A lot of them are very generous in safe, orderly communities because they know they are building good will towards their business.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 19, 2022 02:32 PM (YIVH2)

147 The last sane person out of sf should turn out the lights. Smod would be an improvement.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable, now with ultra maga at October 19, 2022 02:32 PM (ZMPCu)

148 Which city recalled it's DA?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 19, 2022 02:33 PM (eGTCV)

149 Ha that last comment, 'why don't you hire a private social worker to help that nutjob on the street so he won't defenstrate your store.'

Cotopaxi could just open a hotel to house them and support them, with social workers. Call it Coto-ylumn. Bill medicad to support them. Then PROFIT!

Gold Jerry, Gold!

Posted by: Scott_T at October 19, 2022 02:33 PM (2waQ7)

150 Where's Mr. Bullitt and Mr. Callahan?
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at October 19, 2022 02:30 PM (Hudry)



They're cops. They were defunded and put out of work.

They've moved to Northern New Mexico and enjoy skiing in the winter.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 02:33 PM (Zz0t1)

151 Different Dave Smith.

******

Who the hell names their kid Dave Smith?

Posted by: Muldoon at October 19, 2022 02:33 PM (kXYt5)

152 Reading the LinkedIn comments is very interesting.
First comment: "... instead of treating property and capital as more important than humans, we start investing in affordable housing..."
Second comment: "Has Cotopaxi or the businesses around tried to create some community for the homeless and unfortunate in that area?"
4th comment: "What if instead...you used this platform to advocate for the vital programs..."

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Here is something useful he could do. Ignore those stupid comments and get off linkedin.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 19, 2022 02:33 PM (sX1BW)

153 I left more than a fart in San Francisco

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at October 19, 2022 02:33 PM (OgrpQ)

154 It's sad, but San Francisco appears to have descended into a city of chaos. Many streets and parks are overrun with drugs, criminals, and homelessness, and local leadership and law enforcement enable it through inaction.


Suck it bitchez! It's EXACTLY what you voted for.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 19, 2022 02:33 PM (9J956)

155 132 Is there rainbow shit in the Castro district?
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 19, 2022 02:31 PM (eGTCV)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx-QK5_e9s8

Posted by: Augustine at October 19, 2022 02:33 PM (BDZWU)

156 Don't panic anybody, Fetterman has a doctors note. He is cleared for senate duty.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 19, 2022 02:33 PM (TiGPW)

157 Not quite, most gangs got started offering illegal goods-gambling and prostitution for example, and fighting with each other for turf. Later after turf was established, then came the protection rackets.

It depends where you're talking about and what gangs. Tongs, Yakuza, and Sicilian Mafia all formed as an alternate force allowing local people to get some semblance of justice because they were either an isolated ethnic group or just too small for the elites to care about.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 02:34 PM (Ivdso)

158 Bring back the Birdman of Alcatraz!

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 02:34 PM (PTVZy)

159 SF has never really been a safe, family friendly place. Not even when it was called Yerba Buena.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, in vino veritas at October 19, 2022 02:31 PM (jTmQV)

A lot of people found it easier to extract gold from the miners than from the ground and they did it in SF.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2022 02:34 PM (eoQWY)

160 Fetterman doesn't have any cognitive deficiencies or speech problems. He just misses words sometimes.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 19, 2022 02:34 PM (TiGPW)

161 Ironically, I was just about to post that my property tax bill arrived: $4,421 for the year. Proposition 13 = holy words.

Posted by: SFGoth at October 19, 2022 02:34 PM (KAi1n)

162 148 Which city recalled it's DA?
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 19, 2022 02:33 PM (eGTCV)

San Fran, I think.

They tried in LA, but apparently about 20% of the petitioners' signatures were deemed invalid and stopped any recall then. Funny how for recall ballots, there was that high invalid signatures but there was such a small percentage of that for mail in votes for the 2020 general election...

Posted by: Thrawn at October 19, 2022 02:34 PM (Rl7KJ)

163 Does Zombie live in SF?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 19, 2022 02:34 PM (eGTCV)

164 If you sell bling, don't whine when the bling people come to steal it. Whatever you do manage to sell, just enjoy your 20000% bling brand markup.

Posted by: Peel gp A Grape at October 19, 2022 02:35 PM (24fqN)

165

INDIANAPOLIS — Starbucks is closing its Monument Circle location in downtown Indianapolis due to safety concerns.

The coffee shop, located at 55 Monument Circle, will close for good at 1 p.m. on Friday, Oct. 28.

"There are a number of factors we consider when closing a store, and safety is one of them," a Starbucks spokesperson told 13News. "The incidents at this store are at a level that we don't feel we can provide a warm and safe experience that people expect when they go to a Starbucks location."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 19, 2022 02:35 PM (63Dwl)

166

Tell me again, even if we win election after election, how we deal with deranged braindead fools who demand the store owner let the looters loot AND give them free counseling while they loot.

We need something so radical that it makes the de-Nazification of Germany after WW2 look like an after school program.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 19, 2022 02:35 PM (x0n13)

167 ". I grew up in Latin America and spent much of my adult life there, and I never felt this unsafe there. Something has to change in San Francisco. "

DEMOCRAT RULE. STOP ELECTING THEM.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 19, 2022 02:35 PM (NpAcC)

168 wo comments left at this post -- one demands the government spend more money on social welfare, the next demands the shop-owner pay money to create a "community" and "services" for the homeless people molesting his wife.

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what is interesting is that the ninth circus somehow created a right to money for these deviants. So that the west coast has to give tons of money to the homeless and shit already.

tucker talked about this a year ago. no one else really mentions it.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 19, 2022 02:35 PM (MLrvz)

169 The job of the government is to keep out foreign invaders, stop domestic crime, and pave the roads.

Never has so little been done for so much
Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2022 02:32 PM (ESjRY)
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Carrol Quiqley's theory of Institutionalization.

An "instrument" of society gradually turns to do none of the things that it was designed to do and actually inhibits the purposes for which it was engaged.

Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 02:35 PM (krQz2)

170 They replaced them four more times -- because looters smashed them four more times.
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But it's great for the glaziers!

Posted by: Broken Windows Fallacy at October 19, 2022 02:35 PM (/jZNa)

171 126 Knowing Carpenter, it'll be Escape from Florida.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 19, 2022 02:29 PM (LvTSG)

And I bet the gate in front of his mansion is very nice.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at October 19, 2022 02:30 PM (PiwSw)

Maybe he needs a bus-full of illegal aliens dumped at his gate...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 02:35 PM (ynpvh)

172 Mr. Smith can GF himself.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 19, 2022 02:35 PM (VaSD4)

173
What I'm hearing is that John Carpenter needs to make another "Escape From" movie...
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper


Considering his career's been in the shitter for over 20 years, yeah. It's so bad that he's pretty much abandoned film for a twilight music career, mostly doing live performances of his film soundtracks.

On the other hand, after seeing the unintentional horrors that are Escape from LA and Ghosts of Mars, maybe he should stick to music.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 19, 2022 02:35 PM (n+4am)

174 Don't panic anybody, Fetterman has a doctors note. He is cleared for senate duty.

Dear people,

Mr Fetterman's brain damage will not stop him from participating in normal Senate actions, like having someone tell him how to vote and taking bribes. So please include him in the Senate.

Signed,
Doctor Morepills

Posted by: Doctor Morepills at October 19, 2022 02:35 PM (ESjRY)

175 It's sad, but San Francisco appears to have descended into a city of chaos. Many streets and parks are overrun with drugs, criminals, and homelessness, and local leadership and law enforcement enable it through inaction. One of the most beautiful and amazing cities in the world is now a place where many no longer feel safe visiting or living.

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Unexpectedly.

/I lived in the Bay Area between '89 and '99, and this trajectory was easily predictable and inevitable back then.

Posted by: ShainS -- Recently Jabbed & Boosted with the Nuclear War & Hurricane Vaccines at October 19, 2022 02:35 PM (bsFEL)

176 "Our store is hit by organized theft rings several times per week."

>One more item on the check list of savagery social media has wrought.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 19, 2022 02:35 PM (z+OQR)

177 ---

Defend ourselves? Is that legal?
- Calfornians
Posted by: Darth Randall at October 19, 2022 02:31 PM (bSzfQ)



Babylon Bee does some videos about a Cali couple (black dude, white chick of course) that move to Texas.

Hilarity ensues.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 02:35 PM (Zz0t1)

178 3 lolgf

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 19, 2022 02:16 PM (yHsuS)


Longer version -- My field of fucks to give is barren.

Over at Red State, we have the founder of Death Row Records (a convicted criminal pardoned by Trump) endorsing the law and order candidate for CA AG.

*When the CRIMINALS are endorsing law and order, well, things just might be getting out of hand.

*read this in Jeff Foxworthy's voice

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 19, 2022 02:35 PM (JOtiF)

179 Not quite, most gangs got started offering illegal goods-gambling and prostitution for example, and fighting with each other for turf. Later after turf was established, then came the protection rackets.
Posted by: whig at October 19, 2022 02:32 PM (CXr4y)
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I knew it was something like that...I guess the idea is that a certain level of illicit activity is tolerated, as long as it doesn't cause too much disruption (like booze, gambling, and prostitution). Make too much noise to disrupt the community then you get a personal visit from certain individuals...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 19, 2022 02:35 PM (YIVH2)

180 Mercy without Justice is not Mercy. It is license.

Posted by: some smart guy at October 19, 2022 02:36 PM (pMyDc)

181 Grand idea, what if instead of treating property and capital as more important than humans, we start investing in affordable housing, social services for low-income and dispossessed peoples (actual services - with no strings attached), and begin to actually look at the root causes of the issues of San Fran (untethered capital interests and government corruption) as opposed to damning the individuals that are just victims of the problem.


Dig deep into YOUR pockets Tylo. Dig deep. Pay for those grand ideas.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 19, 2022 02:36 PM (9J956)

182 150 A Steve McQueen-Clint Eastwood cop movie would’ve been awesome.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 02:36 PM (PTVZy)

183 What you need to focus on is creating opportunities for the people feel that crime is their only opportunity for survival.

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just a reminder that most leftists are deluded monsters who are societal cancer.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 19, 2022 02:36 PM (MLrvz)

184 I used to call San Francisco the jewel of the west. Last time I visited was in 2018, right before I left California to move elsewhere. It was still OK then, that memory will have to last. It makes me sad.

Work sent me there in 2014 for a conference at the Moscone Center and it was fine. I gather they do expend slightly more effort to keep that area decent though.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 19, 2022 02:36 PM (ZGrMX)

185 Katie Hobbs sounds like Blassey-Ford

Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2022 02:36 PM (us2H3)

186 His fault, he shoulda done something to improve conditions in the community. No blame for SF and the ones who run that shit show.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 02:27 PM (ynpvh)

No matter how many billions we (as Californians) piss away on homeless programs, it will never be enough.

Related, I'm open to online gambling, but don't think the "homeless" (leftist money launderers) should see any of the revenue. Do I vote No on Prop 27 and Yes on Prop 26? The Yes on 26 backers aren't really trying to inform or convince me. Maybe just punt and vote No on both.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at October 19, 2022 02:36 PM (wBpKf)

187 That's a phase 2 or 3 job.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2022 02:30 PM

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Here at Marvel Studios, it isn't until Phase 4 that everything turns to shit.

Posted by: Kevin Feige at October 19, 2022 02:36 PM (bSzfQ)

188 Shitting on the dock of the bay, watching the crime something, something

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 19, 2022 02:36 PM (eGTCV)

189 $949 per person...if the crew is big enough.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 02:30 PM (ynpvh)

The 950 just meant the cops wouldn't come. Now they can just take what they want.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2022 02:37 PM (eoQWY)

190 174 Don't panic anybody, Fetterman has a doctors note. He is cleared for senate duty.

LOl... He should never have been given any political offices because even before his stroke he was a friggin' disaster

Posted by: It's me donna at October 19, 2022 02:37 PM (bs+z0)

191 The left is simply insane, members of a cult. They'll never, ever admit to the root cause. They'll keep voting for the same shit expecting something is going to change. That poor lady who got the garden sheers in the skull? Her mom is blaming society. Yeah, daughter is going to be a drooling, shaking vegetable for the rest of her now abbreviated life, but that poor homeless person isn't to blame. It's our lack of support and caring that drove them to run around stabbing people for shits and giggles.

At this point we could convert every city hall into a mental hospital and it wouldn't be enough.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at October 19, 2022 02:37 PM (zB/T/)

192 Grand idea, what if instead of treating property and capital as more important than humans, we start investing in affordable housing, social services for low-income and dispossessed peoples (actual services - with no strings attached), and begin to actually look at the root causes of the issues of San Fran (untethered capital interests and government corruption) as opposed to damning the individuals that are just victims of the problem.

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What if we just nuked it?

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 19, 2022 02:37 PM (sX1BW)

193 155 132 Is there rainbow shit in the Castro district?
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 19, 2022 02:31 PM (eGTCV)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx-QK5_e9s8

Posted by: Augustine at October 19, 2022 02:33 PM (BDZWU)

LOL.
I had a dog eat a boxfull of crayolas. She shat the rainbow, literally.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 02:37 PM (ynpvh)

194 First: Putting people in jail for committing crimes is racist

Then: They are only looting these stores as compensation for racism!

Finally: The only reasons there aren't stores in these areas any more is racism!

Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2022 02:37 PM (ESjRY)

195 "There are a number of factors we consider when closing a store, and safety is one of them," a Starbucks spokesperson told 13News. "The incidents at this store are at a level that we don't feel we can provide a warm and safe experience that people expect when they go to a Starbucks location."

You got what you voted for.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 19, 2022 02:37 PM (Xrfse)

196 On the other hand, after seeing the unintentional horrors that are Escape from LA and Ghosts of Mars, maybe he should stick to music.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 19, 2022 02:35 PM (n+4am)
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Escape from LA is a pretty terrible movie in a lot of ways...but I love the ending.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 19, 2022 02:37 PM (YIVH2)

197 185 Katie Hobbs sounds like Blassey-Ford
Posted by: REDACTED at October 19, 2022 02:36 PM (us2H3)

Well, then get that young lady a Coke!

Posted by: Chuck Grassley, always a gentleman at October 19, 2022 02:37 PM (PiwSw)

198 Top ten nations with slavery still active (by total slaves)

India - 7,989,000
China - 3,864,000
North Korea - 2,640,000
Nigeria - 1,386,000
Iran - 1,289,000
Indonesia - 1,220,000
Congo (Democratic Republic of) - 1,045,000
Russia - 794,000
Philippines - 784,000
Afghanistan - 749,000

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 02:38 PM (Ivdso)

199 Progressive Ace is the best Ace!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 19, 2022 02:38 PM (yikp0)

200 196 Escape from LA is a pretty terrible movie in a lot of ways...but I love the ending.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 19, 2022 02:37 PM (YIVH2)

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Escape from LA is a misunderstood masterpiece, and I love it completely.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 19, 2022 02:38 PM (LvTSG)

201 During a previous trip, my rental car was broken into and everything was stolen out of our trunk. When calling the police to report the theft, they let us know this happens hundreds of times per day in the city and said it was our own fault for parking in the street.
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The company I work for is based in the Bay Area, though not SF proper. Car break-ins are an endemic problem there. Several years ago - 2016-2018, IIRC - people visiting the HQ from other offices were no longer permitted to get rental cars. Official policy was "take a cab or an Uber everywhere. It doesn't matter if it's more expensive than a rental."

Why? Car break-ins. Rentals are easy to spot and they often have good stuff in them - like laptops and clothes and shit. The company is big and thus self-insured (they pay for damages) and the bill for rental car repair (replacing windows and whatnot) and replacing stolen equipment like computers got so large that they just pulled the plug on car rentals for the home office. Any other office, you could rent a car. Not HQ.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2022 02:38 PM (/jZNa)

202 > Maybe you hire social workers to work at your store?

I understand that the best tools for freelance social work either start with ".4", end with "Magnum", or (preferably) both. When the need for "social justice" is higher, some prefer a tool that includes the phrase "12 gauge".

Too bad this is California, where that's not an option.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 19, 2022 02:38 PM (bW8dp)

203 The loveliness of Paris seems somehow sadly grey
The glory that was Rome is of another day
I've been terribly alone and forgotten in Manhattan
I'm going home to my city by the Bay
I left my penis in San Francisco
High on a hill, it calls to me

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 19, 2022 02:38 PM (M+Lyo)

204 *When the CRIMINALS are endorsing law and order, well, things just might be getting out of hand.

*read this in Jeff Foxworthy's voice
Posted by: GnuBreed


*Here's your sign.
*Said in Bill Engvall's voice

Posted by: rickb223 at October 19, 2022 02:38 PM (9J956)

205 Lefties have an odd romantic attachment to filthy cities.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 19, 2022 02:38 PM (eGTCV)

206 182 150 A Steve McQueen-Clint Eastwood cop movie would’ve been awesome.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 02:36 PM (PTVZy)


Dirty Bullit.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 19, 2022 02:38 PM (x0n13)

207 198 Top ten nations with slavery still active (by total slaves)

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 02:38 PM (Ivdso)

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This is Thomas Jefferson's fault.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 19, 2022 02:38 PM (LvTSG)

208 160 Fetterman doesn't have any cognitive deficiencies or speech problems. He just misses words sometimes.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 19, 2022 02:34 PM (TiGPW)

And what is the frequency of lost words? I'm still waiting on which Eagles are better than which Eagles...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 02:38 PM (ynpvh)

209 Now that I've retired from BLM I need something to occupy my time, so I've decided to identify as the owner of Patagonia.

Therefore, I am the owner of Patagonia.

Posted by: Patrice Cullors at October 19, 2022 02:38 PM (RpsJW)

210 Whom here was it, that opined civilization really got started when we could have one or two tribe members protect the tribes property, while the others went out and gathered more, such that you didn't have to keep everything you had that was valuable on you at all times.

That this allowed an excess of useful and valuable property that eventually leads like a straight line to human civilization.

When you say they are anti civilization. Nothing is anti civilization quite so much as insisting the only security you have for your property is carrying it on your person and being willing and able to defend your ownership of it personally.

We might as well be chimpanzees at that point.

Posted by: mikethemoose at October 19, 2022 02:39 PM (QN7a1)

211 hiya

Posted by: JT at October 19, 2022 02:39 PM (T4tVD)

212 205 Lefties have an odd romantic attachment to filthy cities.
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 19, 2022 02:38 PM (eGTCV)

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"I loved Dinkins era NYC!"

"Did you live there?"

"Oh, no. I wasn't even alive then, but I love it!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 19, 2022 02:39 PM (LvTSG)

213 The left is simply insane, members of a cult. They'll never, ever admit to the root cause.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at October 19, 2022 02:37 PM (zB/T/)
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And they are guaranteed to get progressively worse because the narcissism does not allow them to question the outcomes they "didn't mean" to cause. So the error is compounded daily.

Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 02:39 PM (krQz2)

214 I watched a movie the other night, Dear Brigitte, in which Jimmy Stewart deals with his eight year old son's love for Brigitte Bardot. The narrator of the film, Ed Winn, describe San Francisco as the most beautiful place in the world. Well, it's been a long time since 1965.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Smarter Than Lumpy Fetterman! at October 19, 2022 02:39 PM (FVME7)

215 Related, I'm open to online gambling, but don't think the "homeless" (leftist money launderers) should see any of the revenue. Do I vote No on Prop 27 and Yes on Prop 26? The Yes on 26 backers aren't really trying to inform or convince me. Maybe just punt and vote No on both.
Posted by: Grudge Harbor at October 19, 2022 02:36 PM (wBpKf)

I start out with voting against anything that gives money to the state. Its safer. I am also against gambling per se, but state run gambling is worse.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2022 02:39 PM (eoQWY)

216
A lot of people found it easier to extract gold from the miners than from the ground and they did it in SF.
Posted by: Oldcat


*whistles absently*

Posted by: Levi Strauss at October 19, 2022 02:39 PM (n+4am)

217 Escape from LA is a pretty terrible movie in a lot of ways...but I love the ending.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 19, 2022 02:37 PM (YIVH2)

Gotta disagree with you there. I get what that ending was trying to do, but how it was done turned Snake from an anti-hero to a callous murderer.

Posted by: Thrawn at October 19, 2022 02:39 PM (Rl7KJ)

218 I took my kids there in 1996 for a surprise vacation when we lived in CA. Had a blast with no negative events - only fun. So sad to see what has happened and I agree, it will only get worse.

Those two idiots that left those comments saying that the store owners need to provide outreach, etc. Fuck you two. Do you live there and/or run a business there? Wait until you soy asses have a gun shoved at you and your property stolen. For extra goodness, maybe you can get the shit beat out of you just for giggles.

Posted by: Cheri at October 19, 2022 02:39 PM (oiNtH)

219
"There are a number of factors we consider when closing a store, and safety is one of them," a Starbucks spokesperson told 13News. "The incidents at this store are at a level that we don't feel we can provide a warm and safe experience that people expect when they go to a Starbucks location."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 19, 2022 02:35 PM (63Dwl)



Translated: We invited all the homeless crackheads in to use our restrooms and have NO IDEA why it's not safe!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 02:39 PM (Zz0t1)

220 Fetterman doesn't have any cognitive deficiencies...

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 19, 2022 02:34 PM (TiGPW)

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He's a democrat, correct? How is this possible?

Posted by: Darth Randall at October 19, 2022 02:39 PM (bSzfQ)

221 > A Steve McQueen-Clint Eastwood cop movie would’ve been awesome.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 02:36 PM

Add Charles Bronson for the trifecta.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 19, 2022 02:40 PM (bW8dp)

222 At this point we could convert every city hall into a mental hospital and it wouldn't be enough.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at October 19, 2022 02:37 PM (zB/T/)

City Halls have no vacancy.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 19, 2022 02:40 PM (yHsuS)

223 What if instead of amplifying tired rhetoric by calling for more police -- a conversation that propagates the existence of historically racist, oppressive, and violent institutions --

Hate to break it to you Commander Soi, but a legit Soros D.A. in the philly burbs has already called out the mackDaddy Soros D.A. in Philly for not controlling crime in his city. You know why? Because the historically oppressed are spilling over into the suburbs and suburban Soros D.A. likes his job. He's using it as a political launchpad.

Posted by: kallisto at October 19, 2022 02:40 PM (dCxaZ)

224 After NBC aired the interview with Evil Shrek where he just couldn't communicate because of his brain damage twatter responded that it was racist to deny someone a Senate seat just because he's incapable of thinking.

You cannot make this shit up.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2022 02:40 PM (ESjRY)

225 Progressives are ineducable.

Posted by: mr tmz at October 19, 2022 02:40 PM (rJ48h)

226 >see
update
!!!
Posted by: ace at October 19, 2022 02:30 PM (C1Zwz)

I'm pretty sure the term "homeless-industrial complex" originated in SF, but sure, the real problem is lack of programs, just like always.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at October 19, 2022 02:40 PM (0D0Oa)

227 186 Related, I'm open to online gambling, but don't think the "homeless" (leftist money launderers) should see any of the revenue. Do I vote No on Prop 27 and Yes on Prop 26? The Yes on 26 backers aren't really trying to inform or convince me. Maybe just punt and vote No on both.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at October 19, 2022 02:36 PM (wBpKf)

That is the safest option. Made that decision two months ago.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 02:41 PM (ynpvh)

228 I don't know why I am commenting on a post with this much attention because I find it pointless, but I do have to ask something. Has Cotopaxi or the businesses around tried to create some community for the homeless and unfortunate in that area?

Something to the affect of let's watch out for each other? Cotopaxi and the other businesses serving breakfasts, or dinners and being welcoming? Funding some public bathrooms right near by and offering old/unsellable product for free. Offering day jobs doing some cleaning of the street?

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This person is cloistered and clueless. Sorry to be politically incorrect, but street people are almost always mentally ill, drug addicted or both. They aren't on the street because housing is too expensive or people are racist or whatever, they're there because they're either too insane for alternatives or they prefer their drug habits to having a better life. Stuff like this does *not* work. The people who are homeless for the reasons the Left always bandies about - housing costs, etc. - aren't usually on the street. They're in a car, or on a buddy's couch. They're invisible.

The street people are a different problem.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2022 02:41 PM (/jZNa)

229 Shitting on the dock of the bay, watching the crime something, something

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 19, 2022 02:36 PM (eGTCV)

Jefferson Starshit?

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at October 19, 2022 02:41 PM (OgrpQ)

230 none of those sois responding to the Coaxial post even have legitimate jobs. They're just a word salad of #Wokespeak

Posted by: kallisto at October 19, 2022 02:41 PM (dCxaZ)

231 The job of the government is to keep out foreign invaders, stop domestic crime, and pave the roads.

Keeping out foreign invaders is racist.
Stopping domestic crime is racist.
Paving the roads is racist.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 19, 2022 02:41 PM (ZGrMX)

232 Work sent me there in 2014 for a conference at the Moscone Center and it was fine. I gather they do expend slightly more effort to keep that area decent though.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 19, 2022 02:36 PM (ZGrMX)


No, only when something big is going on. Howard is as fucked up (or more so) than the rest of the shithole. It's really like a game of whack-a-mole. They'll move one giant tent city and they just relocate. From what a friend said they'll put porta-potties out hoping they'll shit in there, and instead they just set them on fire.

I should have had the foresight to invest in a cyclone fence company in SF. Those guys are cleaning up.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at October 19, 2022 02:41 PM (zB/T/)

233 Where's Mr. Bullitt and Mr. Callahan?

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at October 19, 2022 02:30 PM (Hudry)


How long did Bernie Goetz spend in jail? How much did he spend defending himself in court?
Did he ever get to live a normal life again?

That is where Mr. Bullit and Mr. Callahan are

Posted by: Kindltot at October 19, 2022 02:41 PM (xhaym)

234 > *whistles absently*
Posted by: Levi Strauss at October 19, 2022 02:39 PM (n+4am)

At least Old Levi sold an honest product. Many were not quite so admirable.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 19, 2022 02:41 PM (bW8dp)

235 Uh, and people who would LIKE to live in San Fran, are not the outdoors types.... they are city types.

Posted by: Romeo13

You can't be serious. The outdoors is all around us: to the north there's the Wine Country, to the south there's, well, the south, to the east there's Tahoe, to the west there's an ocean. Outdoorsing is popular with a lot of San Franciscans.

Posted by: SFGoth at October 19, 2022 02:41 PM (KAi1n)

236 I'm beginning to think that Starbucks management just wanted to close a few underperforming stores in some bad areas without negative press so they created this program where anyone can come defecate in their stores for hours on end.

It may actually be somewhat genius.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 19, 2022 02:41 PM (sX1BW)

237 I start out with voting against anything that gives money to the state. Its safer. I am also against gambling per se, but state run gambling is worse.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2022 02:39 PM (eoQWY)

But it's called the "Education Lottery!" Why do you hate children!

Posted by: Chuck Grassley, always a gentleman at October 19, 2022 02:41 PM (PiwSw)

238 145 The job of the government is to keep out foreign invaders, stop domestic crime, and pave the roads.

Never has so little been done for so much
Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2022 02:32 PM (ESjRY)

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You think it's the govt's job to pave the roads?

What are you? Some kind of socialist?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 19, 2022 02:41 PM (LvTSG)

239 >>> A Steve McQueen-Clint Eastwood cop movie would’ve been awesome.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 02:36 PM

Add Charles Bronson for the trifecta.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 19, 2022 02:40 PM (bW8dp)

I keep hoping that we'd get a '70s era type of influx of good vengeance movies, but I wait in vain. It's all trannies, and homos, and white devils.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 19, 2022 02:42 PM (yHsuS)

240 I took my kids there in 1996 for a surprise vacation when we lived in CA. Had a blast with no negative events - only fun. So sad to see what has happened and I agree, it will only get worse.

Portland used to be a safe, fun place to visit with lots to see and just plenty of scenic natural beauty. There are still neat places to go and its still pretty but its not safe and its wracked with violence weekly. The murder rate has gone up by like ten fold in the last two years.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 02:42 PM (Ivdso)

241 194 First: Putting people in jail for committing crimes is racist

Then: They are only looting these stores as compensation for racism!

Finally: The only reasons there aren't stores in these areas any more is racism!
Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2022 02:37 PM (ESjRY)

When racism can be used to explain everything, it explains nothing.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 02:42 PM (ynpvh)

242 Keeping out foreign invaders is racist.
Stopping domestic crime is racist.
Paving the roads is racist.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 19, 2022 02:41 PM (ZGrMX)
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Especially because the highways were put through neighborhoods that became majority black after white people moved out of them!

Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 02:42 PM (krQz2)

243 We should start calling it "Frisco" again.

I hear they don't like that name.

Fuck them.

Posted by: Pious Agnostic at October 19, 2022 02:42 PM (SNFhB)

244 Top ten nations with slavery still active (by total slaves)

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 02:38 PM (Ivdso)



LIAR!!!!!

America isn't listed. We still have all the slaves, created slavery and have been practicing it for 10,000 years!!!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 02:42 PM (Zz0t1)

245 "what if instead of treating property and capital as more important than humans, we start investing in affordable housing, social services for low-income and dispossessed peoples"
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See, the moment you use the word 'investing', it means money but you have just said capital is not important. So what are we going to use to "invest"?

Posted by: Ciampino - - - gotta speaka de lingo at October 19, 2022 02:42 PM (qfLjt)

246 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 02:38 PM (Ivdso)
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I had no idea India still allows for slavery, even at the edges of the law. The fact and number of slaves is shocking.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 19, 2022 02:42 PM (RpsJW)

247 Woman: complains about being raped
Progs: "Did you try creating a sex therapy program for those Havers of Penis in need? No? Then shut up, you're part of the problem."

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at October 19, 2022 02:43 PM (0D0Oa)

248 Why don't we pay criminals not to be criminal?

Posted by: The Left! at October 19, 2022 02:43 PM (I2/tG)

249 Those two idiots that left those comments saying that the store owners need to provide outreach, etc. Fuck you two. Do you live there and/or run a business there? Wait until you soy asses have a gun shoved at you and your property stolen. For extra goodness, maybe you can get the shit beat out of you just for giggles.
Posted by: Cheri at October 19, 2022 02:39 PM (oiNtH)

I can assure you that those two provide zero dollars for any such purposes or any charity. Their virtue is in ordering other people to do good works.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2022 02:43 PM (eoQWY)

250 When racism can be used to explain everything, it explains nothing.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 02:42 PM (ynpvh)
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It's "Progressive" for "You are a bad person".

Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 02:43 PM (krQz2)

251 Lefties finding out that their utopia really, really sucks.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 19, 2022 02:43 PM (Xrfse)

252 I keep hoping that we'd get a '70s era type of influx of good vengeance movies

There's been a few, inspired mostly by the success of John Wick. But yeah, Hollywood has valiantly resisted giving viewers what they want to see on screen regarding the cultural insanity.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 02:43 PM (Ivdso)

253 Posted by: Levi Strauss at October 19, 2022 02:39 PM (n+4am)


You can go fuck yourself with the business end of a SAW.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 02:43 PM (Zz0t1)

254 Don't panic anybody, Fetterman has a doctors note. He is cleared for senate duty.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 19, 2022 02:33 PM


BTW, I give out very few notes, so don't bother asking.

Posted by: Dr. Fauchi at October 19, 2022 02:43 PM (a3Q+t)

255 It depends where you're talking about and what gangs. Tongs, Yakuza, and Sicilian Mafia all formed as an alternate force allowing local people to get some semblance of justice because they were either an isolated ethnic group or just too small for the elites to care about.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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From what I know of criminal history, that is not quite true. Theft requires a market, so do illegal good whatever they are for a region and some way to enforce agreements over buying and selling those items and paying off the police/law enforcement. The crimes come first, then comes an attempt to monopolizing violence and crime in a district.

It is unpopular to consider this but immigrants (even internal migration) often bring their criminal element with them and that criminal element promptly justifies its actions in the new location because of outsider status of the immigrants. See the same thing in Merrie Ole England after the Enclosures Act.

Posted by: whig at October 19, 2022 02:43 PM (CXr4y)

256 When racism can be used to explain everything, it explains nothing.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 02:42 PM (ynpvh)

It explains my bank account!

Posted by: Ibram X. Kendi at October 19, 2022 02:43 PM (PiwSw)

257 I remember my first trip to San Francisco. It was for a conference in 2014. It was a shithole and it's gotten much worse. The aggressive and insane street people, the filth, the tents, the stench of piss, the trash are all worse now.

I was talking to my mom and she asked me how I liked the place. I said, "San Francisco is a shit hole." She lamented that it was such a nice place when she visited there and it was wonderful and she couldn't imagine it. I asked her when she had been to San Francisco (I didn't remember such a trip). She replied, "1965."

Yeah, things changed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2022 02:43 PM (/jZNa)

258 212 205 Lefties have an odd romantic attachment to filthy cities.
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 19, 2022 02:38 PM (eGTCV)
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"I loved Dinkins era NYC!"
"Did you live there?"
"Oh, no. I wasn't even alive then, but I love it!"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 19, 2022 02:39 PM (LvTSG)

Were NY streets every coveried in Dinkins donuts?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 02:43 PM (ynpvh)

259 252 I keep hoping that we'd get a '70s era type of influx of good vengeance movies

There's been a few, inspired mostly by the success of John Wick. But yeah, Hollywood has valiantly resisted giving viewers what they want to see on screen regarding the cultural insanity.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 02:43 PM (Ivdso)

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Pretty sure most of those exploitation films inspired by Death Wish in the 70s were independent productions, and you kind of had to go out of your way to see them contemporaneously.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 19, 2022 02:44 PM (LvTSG)

260 I had no idea India still allows for slavery, even at the edges of the law. The fact and number of slaves is shocking.

Its also the world's leading computer scam location. I figured it would be places like Bulgaria and Russia, but no, its India.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 02:44 PM (Ivdso)

261 What if instead the business owner gives the mob free Uber vouchers to the homes of Tylo Ward, Edward Christenson, Gwen Carrington, and Brian Larson?

I'm sure said homes contain many items that the homeless could make good use of.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 19, 2022 02:44 PM (bW8dp)

262
Escape from LA is a misunderstood masterpiece, and I love it completely.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster


Two words:

LA River Surfing

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 19, 2022 02:44 PM (n+4am)

263 Portland used to be a safe, fun place to visit with lots to see and just plenty of scenic natural beauty. There are still neat places to go and its still pretty but its not safe and its wracked with violence weekly. The murder rate has gone up by like ten fold in the last two years.

Just stay out of Portland, and the rest of Oregon is fine.

Fortunately, not much crime has spilled over into the suburbs, which still have functioning police departments and DAs who enforce the law.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 19, 2022 02:45 PM (I2/tG)

264 My memory is the Sicilian Mafia formed as an alternative government when the island was controlled, poorly, by Imperial Spain.

You couldn't get justice from whatever moron the king sent to rule you, but there were people that could...

Overtime their area of focus changed...

Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2022 02:45 PM (ESjRY)

265 But it's called the "Education Lottery!" Why do you hate children!
Posted by: Chuck Grassley, always a gentleman at October 19, 2022 02:41 PM (PiwSw)

If I duplicated what the lottery does I would be closed down as a scam artist. Money directed to education is offset by reducing money from the general fund.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2022 02:45 PM (eoQWY)

266 Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 19, 2022 02:36 PM (eGTCV)

Jefferson Starshit?
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at October 19, 2022 02:41 PM (OgrpQ)
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We built it this shitty!
We built it this shitty!
On shlock and polls!

Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 02:45 PM (krQz2)

267 That is a totally different America than the Midwest.

Posted by: clutch at October 19, 2022 02:45 PM (9UmRs)

268 Pretty sure most of those exploitation films inspired by Death Wish in the 70s were independent productions, and you kind of had to go out of your way to see them contemporaneously.

Probably so yeah, but stuff like Dirty Harry was a major hollywood production, with a hippie bad guy and a very square cop protagonist.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 02:45 PM (Ivdso)

269 @244

>>America isn't listed. We still have all the slaves, created slavery and have been practicing it for 10,000 years!!!!!!!

Fun Fact:

The vast overwhelming majority of slaves that came West, wen to places other than the colonies that became the US, most went to Brazil and other South American and Caribbean destinations.

But for some reason Spain, Portugal, France and to a large extent Great Britain seem to all escape opprobrium over slavery.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 19, 2022 02:45 PM (oJb1g)

270 161 Ironically, I was just about to post that my property tax bill arrived: $4,421 for the year. Proposition 13 = holy words.
Posted by: SFGoth at October 19, 2022 02:34 PM (KAi1n)

Yup, since I inherited the house? I'm under prop 13 since it was enacted... but... saves me about 25% in Prop Taxes... Central Valley...

YMMV.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 19, 2022 02:45 PM (oHd/0)

271 "Did you try creating a sex therapy program for those Havers of Penis in need? No? Then shut up, you're part of the problem."
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at October 19, 2022 02:43 PM


The point we've been making repeatedly!

Posted by: Incels at October 19, 2022 02:45 PM (a3Q+t)

272 262 Two words:

LA River Surfing
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 19, 2022 02:44 PM (n+4am)

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The special effects aren't great, but it works better narratively than Cabbie just happening to be outside of where Snake is right when he needs him to be in Escape from New York.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 19, 2022 02:45 PM (LvTSG)

273 San Francisco was still nice in the late 80's . I went there for my honeymoon and for a friend's wedding.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 19, 2022 02:45 PM (vH/6k)

274 Work sent me there in 2014 for a conference at the Moscone Center and it was fine. I gather they do expend slightly more effort to keep that area decent though.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 19, 2022 02:36 PM (ZGrMX)
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My conference in 2014 at Moscone was a tale of two cities. The actual plaza was kept nice (huge conference). Everything beyond it was a nightmare. Walking from my hotel to the convention center every day involved dodging vagrants and garbage and trying not too breathe too deeply.

They clean up Moscone and the routes to the nearest hotels when there's a big-time conference. Go there when there's no big event and it's more of the same.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2022 02:45 PM (/jZNa)

275 The people rushing in his store and stealing everything are not the "homeless". They are punks thinking the "man" owes them something...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 19, 2022 02:45 PM (bs+z0)

276 Open a business in San Francisco, name it La Casa de Inspector Callahan Y Los Muertos.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 19, 2022 02:45 PM (lz5hY)

277 Those comments posted with the update...are something.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at October 19, 2022 02:46 PM (HmZuC)

278 268 Probably so yeah, but stuff like Dirty Harry was a major hollywood production, with a hippie bad guy and a very square cop protagonist.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 02:45 PM (Ivdso)

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Bring back Don Siegel!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 19, 2022 02:46 PM (LvTSG)

279 But for some reason Spain, Portugal, France and to a large extent Great Britain seem to all escape opprobrium over slavery.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 19, 2022 02:45 PM (oJb1g)

I can tell you why.

Posted by: Ibram X. Kendi at October 19, 2022 02:46 PM (PiwSw)

280 Whom here was it, that opined civilization really got started when we could have one or two tribe members protect the tribes property, while the others went out and gathered more, such that you didn't have to keep everything you had that was valuable on you at all times.

That this allowed an excess of useful and valuable property that eventually leads like a straight line to human civilization.


I prefer the spicier version someone here posted a link to last week: Civilization is where average-looking men get a wife and then everyone gets infrastructure. That's the entire societal contract, and it's under attack from all directions.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 19, 2022 02:46 PM (ZGrMX)

281 Why does the word "eqitable" feel like a code word for "we want your stuff"? This word, equitable, seems like a club to swing at people who work for a living and delay gratification in exchange for the fruits of labor.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at October 19, 2022 02:46 PM (0Qrr3)

282 > You can go fuck yourself with the business end of a SAW.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

Nah, Levi was okay. His company sold durable, honest clothes for an honest price for many decades.

He's not responsible for the woke vultures who are running the company now.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 19, 2022 02:46 PM (bW8dp)

283 I wonder if Cotopaxi still carries the Urban Sombrero.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 19, 2022 02:47 PM (kXYt5)

284 I wish DC would get a big taste of this. Nobody deserves it more
Posted by: CN at October 19, 2022 02:17 PM (Zzbjj)


How can you be so insensitive? On January 6th some commoners got within 100 yards of where I might have been if I hadn't been somewhere else at the time. -- AOC

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 19, 2022 02:47 PM (z99Zw)

285 251 Lefties finding out that their utopia really, really sucks.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 19, 2022 02:43 PM (Xrfse)

Is fragrant the word you're looking for?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 02:47 PM (ynpvh)

286 Portland used to be a safe, fun place to visit with lots to see and just plenty of scenic natural beauty. There are still neat places to go and its still pretty but its not safe and its wracked with violence weekly. The murder rate has gone up by like ten fold in the last two years.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 02:42 PM (Ivdso)
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Portland's destruction has been sad, too. The Rose Garden is worth the trip all on it's own, but I don't know if it's been ruined yet. The rest of the city has declined mightily over the past ten years.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2022 02:47 PM (/jZNa)

287
Jefferson Starshit?
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at October 19, 2022 02:41 PM (OgrpQ)
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We built it this shitty!
We built it this shitty!
On shlock and polls!
Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 02:45 PM (krQz2)



I'm rolling over here.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 02:47 PM (Zz0t1)

288 I have many fond memories of trips to San Francisco. It is a beautiful city. My late uncle was a vice-president of a big insurance company and he would say that his travels to San Francisco required him to wear his finest suits and shoes. It was a formal and conservative city. Everything seems to be crumbling right before us. And the madness, it is everywhere.

Posted by: washrivergal at October 19, 2022 02:47 PM (FjZQA)

289 what if instead of treating property and capital as more important than humans, we start investing in affordable housing, social services for low-income and dispossessed peoples"

Here is the problem. You folks making that "humans" are more important than "property" are Communists that hate the idea of private property. So everything is more important than property to y'all.

All this doesn't matter anyway because Leftists hate humanity (ref: abortion and euthanasia) considering most Life unworthy of life as they keep telling us that animals, neo-marxist ideology, the climate, sexual deviancy, societal destruction and the tyrannical wielding of totalitarian control is far more important than human life.

The "if it saves just one life" crap is raw hypocritical manipulation to have decent people surrender power to these death-cult maniacs.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 19, 2022 02:47 PM (3hSHB)

290 Pretty sure most of those exploitation films inspired by Death Wish in the 70s were independent productions, and you kind of had to go out of your way to see them contemporaneously.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 19, 2022 02:44 PM (LvTSG)

Death Wish was distributed by Paramount.

Back then the movies still had some attraction for money over political positioning.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2022 02:47 PM (eoQWY)

291 The Frisco Kid was a very funny movie. Harrison Ford and Gene Wilder.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 02:47 PM (PTVZy)

292 The point we've been making repeatedly!

Posted by: Incels at October 19, 2022 02:45 PM (a3Q+t)


I've seen incels online argue for "socialism of sex" and I'll be honest, its not any dumber then any other version of socialism

Unfortunately for them though, it pisses off one of the most important demographics behind the current junta - AWFLs - who aren't going to have sex with their OWN husbands and surely aren't going to with some random bigger loser

Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2022 02:47 PM (ESjRY)

293 Um, what if like, the store owner just gave all the stuff to the homeless and then when the homeless stole everything, they'd just be stealing from themselves.

That would teach the racist, cis-male patriarchy not to mess with us!

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 19, 2022 02:48 PM (UuD2k)

294 > What you need to focus on is creating opportunities for the people feel that crime is their only opportunity for survival.

These people live on another planet. The only people starving to death in modern America are people who are too strung out on drugs to care for themselves or severely mentally ill.

San Fran will give you hundreds in cash per month if you make a phone call. Food stamps are just as easy. There are dozens of programs to help people.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 19, 2022 02:48 PM (i0wNm)

295 video of skid row in Philly, showing what the commie cocksucker Donks want to bring to every city and town in America.


Posted by: IllTemperedCur



They can't stand up, but they can vote at over 90% turnout.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 19, 2022 02:48 PM (lTGtQ)

296 Escape from LA is a misunderstood masterpiece, and I love it completely.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster

It's Escape from New York with Mexicans. Exact same scenes

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at October 19, 2022 02:48 PM (OgrpQ)

297 Some day, a big rain will come and wash all the streets clean.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 19, 2022 02:48 PM (C7jzY)

298 America does have slaves in it, mostly sex workers. Vietnamese women come to the USA illegally to work at places like "nail salons" where they're hookers who cannot speak a word of the local language and are held with force by their owners.

I have mentioned this before but earlier this year the British press reported that some tycoon from Nigeria went to London to get surgery done, and brought his slave along, to use him as an organ donor.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 02:48 PM (Ivdso)

299 The "if it saves just one life" crap is raw hypocritical manipulation to have decent people surrender power to these death-cult maniacs.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 19, 2022 02:47 PM (3hSHB)

Note that the 'it saves one life crowd' loves abortion and sheds no tears over the lives of victims lost. They have no interest in innocent lives lost, just guilty and criminal ones.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2022 02:49 PM (eoQWY)

300
He's not responsible for the woke vultures who are running the company now.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 19, 2022 02:46 PM (bW8dp)



Levi Strauss hasn't made a quality product in a few decades. I used to be a Levi guy. Never wore anything else. I won't wear them now. Their wokeness just assisted that along.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 02:49 PM (Zz0t1)

301 It was the best of times
it was the worst of times
it was the decade (century?) of my discontent

Posted by: illiniwek at October 19, 2022 02:49 PM (Cus5s)

302 12 SF? We were talking about pooping outside in the last thread.

Posted by: wth at October 19, 2022 02:18 PM (v0R5T)
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I remember seeing a short clip taken from a car, showing someone (woman I think) bent at the waist, no pants or underwear, cleaning their big butt right on the pavement near the curb. Seattle or Portland, I can't recall.

Posted by: Ciampino - who cleans the pavements? at October 19, 2022 02:49 PM (qfLjt)

303 I heard part of Glenn Beck's show. He wanted to buy (above the auction price) the Levis that somebody had found in a cave.

He was quite upbeat telling his audience that the label back then said: "Made Entirely By White People". That's a collector's item to Beck.

Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 02:49 PM (krQz2)

304 > Cotopaxi

Is this supposed to sound like feminine products, or is that by accident?

Cotex + Maxi pad = Cotopaxi

Posted by: bonhomme at October 19, 2022 02:49 PM (i0wNm)

305 the comments prove the lefties need to get exactly what they want, harder.

All I can say is they shouldn't be allowed to run away to Nevada, or Texas. Stay there in SF and live with the consequences.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 19, 2022 02:50 PM (RpsJW)

306 270 161 Ironically, I was just about to post that my property tax bill arrived: $4,421 for the year. Proposition 13 = holy words.
Posted by: SFGoth at October 19, 2022 02:34 PM (KAi1n)

Yup, since I inherited the house? I'm under prop 13 since it was enacted... but... saves me about 25% in Prop Taxes... Central Valley...
YMMV.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 19, 2022 02:45 PM (oHd/0)

My crappy little house is worth more than 6x what I paid for it. If it wasn't for Prop 13, I wouldn't be able to afford the property taxes.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 02:50 PM (ynpvh)

307 296 Escape from LA is a misunderstood masterpiece, and I love it completely.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster

It's Escape from New York with Mexicans. Exact same scenes
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at October 19, 2022 02:48 PM (OgrpQ)

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Escape from LA is a script doctored version of Escape from New York. It improves Escape from New York.

Only Angels Have Wings is a scene for scene remake of Ceiling Zero, both made by Howard Hawks, and Only Angels Have Wings is much better.

Original does not equal better.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 19, 2022 02:50 PM (LvTSG)

308 SF has never really been a safe, family friendly place. Not even when it was called Yerba Buena.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, in vino veritas at October 19, 2022 02:31 PM (jTmQV)

You knew where to go and where not to go. Fisherman's wharf - financial district, etc. fine.....Tenderloin - not on your life. Today, you gamble in any area.

Posted by: Cheri at October 19, 2022 02:50 PM (oiNtH)

309 No sympathy. You opened a business in Cali. FOAD.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at October 19, 2022 02:50 PM (4jZIl)

310
He was quite upbeat telling his audience that the label back then said: "Made Entirely By White People". That's a collector's item to Beck.
Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 02:49 PM (krQz2)



I have some items that are "Made in West Germany" that I find collectable. Does that make me a Nazi?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 02:50 PM (Zz0t1)

311 Levi Strauss hasn't made a quality product in a few decades. I used to be a Levi guy. Never wore anything else. I won't wear them now. Their wokeness just assisted that along.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 02:49 PM (Zz0t1)
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I bought a pair a couple of years ago. I just threw them away last week because they wore out quicker than my Lees and Arizona Jeans.

Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 02:50 PM (krQz2)

312 How do you create opportunities better than nonpunishable crime?

Posted by: Beto Ochoa at October 19, 2022 02:51 PM (dzZCL)

313 My late uncle was a vice-president of a big insurance company and he would say that his travels to San Francisco required him to wear his finest suits and shoes. It was a formal and conservative city.

Next to London, it was my Pop's favorite city. That was long ago and far away.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 19, 2022 02:51 PM (Xrfse)

314 The Rose Garden is worth the trip all on it's own, but I don't know if it's been ruined yet.

As far as I know all the amazing great places are still unspoiled: Rose Garden, OMSI, Japanese Garden, Forestry Center, etc. Its just really not a nice experience getting to them any more.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 02:51 PM (Ivdso)

315 > The only people starving to death in modern America are people who are too strung out on drugs to care for themselves or severely mentally ill.

Even in my far-flung Red State city, I can think of at least three places where a person can go get a meal any day, no questions asked. Probably there are more than three (it's not something I've ever needed myself, thank God).

A couple of them might ask you to listen to a sermon while you're eating, but I doubt they'd throw you out if you preferred to listen to something else on your stolen earbuds.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 19, 2022 02:51 PM (bW8dp)

316 260 places like Bulgaria

Huh. I thought so, too. You mean I took them out for nothing?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 02:51 PM (PTVZy)

317 >>>Why even bother paying security guards? Just to show the criminals where the exits are, I guess.

In all seriousness, the presence of security guards probably dissuades some of the five-finger-discounters, the less organized, less scary ones.

Posted by: m at October 19, 2022 02:51 PM (8rTNG)

318 I had no idea India still allows for slavery, even at the edges of the law. The fact and number of slaves is shocking.

Its also the world's leading computer scam location. I figured it would be places like Bulgaria and Russia, but no, its India.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 02:44 PM (Ivdso)

Lots more people and a lot speak English.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2022 02:51 PM (eoQWY)

319 I prefer the spicier version someone here posted a link to last week: Civilization is where average-looking men get a wife and then everyone gets infrastructure. That's the entire societal contract, and it's under attack from all directions.

Disagree with the average looking part. Its "even below average status".

In Islam and older warrior societies there was constant conflict because high status men had harems and low status men had...nothing. And therefore every reason to fight.


Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2022 02:52 PM (ESjRY)

320 If only the people advocating a “community-based” program for assisting these disadvantaged thieves stealing thousands of dollars of product a week could be forced to use these properties being abandoned to do that themselves. Put themselves and their families in that position and see how their feelings get affected.

Posted by: Advo at October 19, 2022 02:52 PM (LcnVR)

321 Levi Strauss hasn't made a quality product in a few decades.

Their jeans don't fit. Wrangler has been my go-to for decades now, and I used to wear 501s back in college.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 02:52 PM (Ivdso)

322 ---
I bought a pair a couple of years ago. I just threw them away last week because they wore out quicker than my Lees and Arizona Jeans.
Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 02:50 PM (krQz2)



I've been rolling the Duluth Trading jeans, but they seem to be struggling to keep the style and colors I like in stock, so I might have to change......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 02:52 PM (Zz0t1)

323 People, or at least a large run of people, will be just as lazy, entitled and violent as you allow them to be.
Choose public policy accordingly.

Posted by: Zek at October 19, 2022 02:52 PM (fsV7e)

324 Wasn't Levi Strauss Jewish and from NYC?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 19, 2022 02:52 PM (UuD2k)

325 He was quite upbeat telling his audience that the label back then said: "Made Entirely By White People". That's a collector's item to Beck.
Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 02:49 PM (krQz2)

I have some items that are "Made in West Germany" that I find collectable. Does that make me a Nazi?
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 02:50 PM (Zz0t1)
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That's not why he wants them. It's entirely historic, but a marker from a more racist past that many people might now know about.

Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 02:53 PM (krQz2)

326
Nothing will get better in California until the Big Earthquake comes and nature takes over.

I was in SF last October and it was disgusting. People were shooting up in broad daylight and the homeless have taken over whole neighborhoods.

Posted by: Czech Chick at October 19, 2022 02:53 PM (haWye)

327 298
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I have mentioned this before but earlier this year the British press reported that some tycoon from Nigeria went to London to get surgery done, and brought his slave along, to use him as an organ donor.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 02:48 PM (Ivdso)
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Actually the organ was for their kid.

Posted by: Ciampino - we are government slaves at October 19, 2022 02:53 PM (qfLjt)

328 > you kind of had to go out of your way to see them contemporaneously.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 19, 2022 02:44 PM (LvTSG)

Prime drive-in movie fare.

I miss drive-ins.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 19, 2022 02:53 PM (bW8dp)

329 >>>we start investing in affordable housing, social services for low-income and dispossessed peoples (actual services - with no strings attached), and begin to actually look at the root causes of the issues of San Fran

>Didn't we call those loony bins, where we put the mentally ill and violently, evil criminals?

Drugs? Close the border.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 19, 2022 02:53 PM (z+OQR)

330 I hope they haven’t ruined the twisty section of Lombard Street.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 02:53 PM (PTVZy)

331
Its also the world's leading computer scam location. I figured it would be places like Bulgaria and Russia, but no, its India.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 02:44 PM (Ivdso)



We had no idea either. Nope. Nuh uh.

- - Every Big IT Company in the World

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 02:53 PM (Zz0t1)

332 My crappy little house is worth more than 6x what I paid for it. If it wasn't for Prop 13, I wouldn't be able to afford the property taxes.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 02:50 PM (ynpvh)
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My neighbors were forced to move out, because of taxes. Great citizens: he was a former mayor, and she ran every major charity in our then-little town (it seems like anyway), but they retired, suffered some market reversals, and their real estate plus income taxes drove them out.

Prop 13 is a blessing.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 19, 2022 02:53 PM (RpsJW)

333 >>>actual services - with no strings attached

No stings meaning no incentives to get someone who is reliant on services moving toward actually being productive members of society and actually paying for services others use.

I'm going to state something absolutely everyone knows. People are almost to the man lazy. Even the awesome folks you don't think are lazy, the majority of them are lazy.

People with rare exceptions underperform to their Potential.

They pick a spot, socially, personally, and economically, that they are comfortable with and put in the effort to achieve and maintain that level.

For some folks that's homelessness; for some people it's getting by as a largely unskilled hourly worker, it's a successful hourly worker or craftsmen, maybe it's a successful professional, maybe it's a business owner. But we choose the spot we like and work to it.

Raising the standard of living of the jobless, doesn't get you people motivated to be retail workers, waiters, iron workers, welders, doctors, or bar owners. It get's you more people whom look at not having a job and saying "hey that lifestyle is for me"

Posted by: mikethemoose at October 19, 2022 02:53 PM (QN7a1)

334 When racism can be used to explain everything, it explains nothing.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at

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A racist would say!

Posted by: Darth Randall at October 19, 2022 02:54 PM (bSzfQ)

335 Actually the organ was for their kid.

Thanks I knew it was someone needed a transplant.

I mean, he just brought his slave along as if it was perfectly normal and nobody would notice. And unless the slave had kicked up a fuss, probably nobody would have either. "Here now, old chum, don't upset the African gent. It would be racist, don't you konw"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 02:54 PM (Ivdso)

336 Huh. I thought so, too. You mean I took them out for nothing?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 02:51 PM (PTVZy)

They can still do the scam calls with just one eye out of 20 people.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2022 02:55 PM (eoQWY)

337 318 I had no idea India still allows for slavery, even at the edges of the law. The fact and number of slaves is shocking.

Its also the world's leading computer scam location. I figured it would be places like Bulgaria and Russia, but no, its India.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 02:44 PM (Ivdso)

Lots more people and a lot speak English.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2022 02:51 PM (eoQWY)

Sometimes I get cantankerous and call them benchods (sister fuckers in Hindi).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 02:55 PM (ynpvh)

338 that sells outdoor clothing and gear

Who goes camping anymore? Haven't bums taken over campgrounds? The hills have eyes style?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at October 19, 2022 02:55 PM (wnYmU)

339
I have some items that are "Made in West Germany" that I find collectable. Does that make me a Nazi?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 02:50 PM (Zz0t1)


No, being white makes you a Nazi, haven't you been getting the updates?

Posted by: Kindltot at October 19, 2022 02:55 PM (xhaym)

340 324 Wasn't Levi Strauss Jewish and from NYC?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 19, 2022 02:52 PM (UuD2k)
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Immigrated from Germany IIRC.

Posted by: Ciampino -- we are government slaves at October 19, 2022 02:55 PM (qfLjt)

341 They can't stand up, but they can vote at over 90% turnout.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 19, 2022 02:48 PM


You say that like it's a bad thing.

Posted by: The Dead at October 19, 2022 02:55 PM (a3Q+t)

342 Chester Gould, the cartoonist who created Dick Tracy, forecast in his "Crimestoppers Notebook" features that someday the law-abiding would live behind bars and locked doors while the criminal would roam free.

Posted by: Weak Geek at October 19, 2022 02:55 PM (D31SV)

343 Actually the organ was for their kid.

Posted by: Ciampino - we are government slaves at October 19, 2022 02:53 PM (qfLjt)
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You betcha!

Posted by: Groomer at October 19, 2022 02:55 PM (krQz2)

344 Yup, since I inherited the house? I'm under prop 13 since it was enacted... but... saves me about 25% in Prop Taxes... Central Valley...
YMMV.
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 19, 2022 02:45 PM (oHd/0)

My crappy little house is worth more than 6x what I paid for it. If it wasn't for Prop 13, I wouldn't be able to afford the property taxes.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 02:50 PM (ynpvh)

Would be interesting to look at the urban vs. rural impact of Prop 13 now. Rural prices in my area have not really risen in 20 years (house was valued at $400 K when my Dad passed... its just a bit north of that now).

But I'm in a depressed area of the State... really high unemployment...

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 19, 2022 02:55 PM (oHd/0)

345 298 The large Vietnamese population here in the River Valley agree. When I lived in the Fort Smith city limits, I went to a barber shop less than a block away, all Vietnamese ladies (first and second generation Americans,this being a welcome area for boat people). They kiddingly called me dai uy (captain). Mom talked about the exploitation in some in the big cities.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 19, 2022 02:55 PM (lz5hY)

346 People, or at least a large run of people, will be just as lazy, entitled and violent as you allow them to be.
Choose public policy accordingly.

Posted by: Zek at October 19, 2022 02:52 PM (fsV7e)

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It's almost as if human beings are motivated by incentives and disincentives. But, nah, that's just deplorable crazy talk ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Recently Jabbed & Boosted with the Nuclear War & Hurricane Vaccines at October 19, 2022 02:56 PM (nE2Dl)

347 I bought a pair a couple of years ago. I just threw them away last week because they wore out quicker than my Lees and Arizona Jeans.

Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 02:50 PM (krQz2)

Luxury, we had sandpaper covered cardboard jeans called Toughskins, and we were happy to have them.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 19, 2022 02:56 PM (yHsuS)

348 They ought to bus the homeless south to San Jose and put ‘em in the Winchester Mystery House.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 02:56 PM (PTVZy)

349 Prop 13 is a blessing.

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But has it worked?

Has it worked as intended?

Does it still work?

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 19, 2022 02:56 PM (sX1BW)

350 Did you ever see the video of the guy that runs the street sweeper in Portland and the tons of needles he picks up, TONS

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at October 19, 2022 02:56 PM (xH79f)

351 A crackhead tries opening a locked door by reaching in through the mail slot. An alert homeowner smacks the probing arm with a bat. Crackhead retreats with a broken arm.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 19, 2022 02:31 PM (i0wNm)

You misspelled 'meat cleaver'.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at October 19, 2022 02:56 PM (Zvtjl)

352 ---
That's not why he wants them. It's entirely historic, but a marker from a more racist past that many people might now know about.
Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 02:53 PM (krQz2)



I don't think that shines a negative light on him. I would imagine he's looking at it from a standpoint as how far we've come, not to remind everyone that white people were racist, came from racists and will always be racist.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 02:57 PM (Zz0t1)

353 264 My memory is the Sicilian Mafia formed as an alternative government when the island was controlled, poorly, by Imperial Spain.

You couldn't get justice from whatever moron the king sent to rule you, but there were people that could...

Overtime their area of focus changed...
Posted by: 18-1
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The truth is a bit more muddled. Governments typically made their money from tariffs and luxury taxes and smuggling was a given to try to avoid those taxes. In addition, livestock were a valuable commodity for theft and protection. For the most part, the Mafia was never really political in the sense of taking the side of government or the people but made money from both.
Good brief article by an Italian History specialist on origins of the Mafia--translated from original Italian.
http://www.bestofsicily.com/mag/art345.htm

Posted by: whig at October 19, 2022 02:57 PM (CXr4y)

354 They can't stand up, but they can vote at over 90% turnout.

Some brave soul goes out and video tapes the scenes on the streets of Philly every day and posts them to youtube.

You see drug zombies everywhere.

And we are supposed to believe that they all vote, and are all committed Democrats - not even libertarians, greens, or whatever the free drug party calls itself now.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2022 02:57 PM (ESjRY)

355 > Wasn't Levi Strauss Jewish and from NYC?

Jewish, definitely. Wikipedia says he was born in Buttenheim, Bavaria. Lived in NYC and Louisville, Kentucky on his way to San Fran.

The actual inventor of the riveted denim pants was Jacob William Davis (born Jakobs Jufess) who was a Latvian Jew by birth. He and Strauss formed a partnership to acquire a patent and manufacture the pants.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 19, 2022 02:57 PM (bW8dp)

356 337 318 I had no idea India still allows for slavery, even at the edges of the law. The fact and number of slaves is shocking.

Its also the world's leading computer scam location. I figured it would be places like Bulgaria and Russia, but no, its India.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 02:44 PM (Ivdso)

Lots more people and a lot speak English.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2022 02:51 PM (eoQWY)

Sometimes I get cantankerous and call them benchods (sister fuckers in Hindi).

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 02:55 PM (ynpvh)
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Also Pakistan has those scam call centers.

Posted by: Ciampino --- we are government slaves at October 19, 2022 02:57 PM (qfLjt)

357 321 Levi Strauss hasn't made a quality product in a few decades.
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Yep. The 70s is when they began to slip. Today they are disco pants that kind of look like jeans.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 19, 2022 02:57 PM (C7jzY)

358 So the Rolling Stone has an article out today about an author named James Gordon Meek who wrote a best-selling book about the Afghanistan withdrawal that was... not complimentary to the Biden administration, shall we say.

The FBI raided his house, took him into custody, and apparently nobody has heard from him since.

TODAY'S FBI *theme music*

https://tinyurl.com/2p9erz5f

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 02:57 PM (Ivdso)

359 I see the same kind of apologists of barbarism up here in Portland Maine - where the homeless crisis is only held in check by fatal cold starting right about now. The wholesome and caring people of this fair city saw the need for more shelters, so they funded and started building one... 10 miles from downtown where all the homeless actually *are*.

None of those people commenting understand how to actually run a damn business. If the guy wanted to "hire social workers" then he'd start a social worker business...

I really can't stand people. I want to leave this place.

Posted by: Defenestratus at October 19, 2022 02:58 PM (9V81o)

360 Who goes camping anymore? Haven't bums taken over campgrounds? The hills have eyes style?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at October 19, 2022 02:55 PM (wnYmU)

Actually, no. Its expensive to get a spot for a Trailer now... and the Feds and State really patrol the 'pay for' tent spots.

thinking on it a bit, there are less homeless in the Parks, then in town now.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 19, 2022 02:58 PM (oHd/0)

361
No, being white makes you a Nazi, haven't you been getting the updates?
Posted by: Kindltot at October 19, 2022 02:55 PM (xhaym)



Damn spam filter.......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 02:58 PM (Zz0t1)

362 Raising the standard of living of the jobless, doesn't get you people motivated to be retail workers, waiters, iron workers, welders, doctors, or bar owners. It get's you more people whom look at not having a job and saying "hey that lifestyle is for me"

Posted by: mikethemoose at October 19, 2022 02:53 PM (QN7a1)

Well said.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 19, 2022 02:58 PM (yHsuS)

363 God bless Howard Jarvis.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at October 19, 2022 02:58 PM (wnYmU)

364 I don't think that shines a negative light on him. I would imagine he's looking at it from a standpoint as how far we've come, not to remind everyone that white people were racist, came from racists and will always be racist.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 02:57 PM (Zz0t1)
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I also kind of think it might be a touch of a "Fuck You" to a modern super-woke company, headquartered in SF, too.

Posted by: Groomer at October 19, 2022 02:58 PM (krQz2)

365 San Fran will give you hundreds in cash per month if you make a phone call. Food stamps are just as easy. There are dozens of programs to help people.
Posted by: bonhomme at October 19, 2022 02:48 PM (i0wNm)


And if you live on the streets rather than paying rent?

That is just more money for your drug habit. more money to poison yourself. Ask any of those homeless.

Posted by: rd at October 19, 2022 02:59 PM (Z32m1)

366 As for the commenters....just how and where do you have any skin in this game, hmm?

Actions, not words, libbies. Show me you're living the same as the shop owners, or STFU.

Posted by: Si vis pacem fac bellum at October 19, 2022 02:59 PM (tfCQg)

367 SF actually has a nasty period of vigilantism in it's not too distant past.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, in vino veritas at October 19, 2022 02:59 PM (jTmQV)

368 See, the moment you use the word 'investing', it means money but you have just said capital is not important.

They use the word "invest" or "investing" as an emotional trigger word. They want to steal your money and use it for their own purposes, but are too cowardly to actually beat it out of you, and too dishonest and lazy to trade goods/services for your money. So they leverage the only tools in their tool belt which is lying, mis-identifying victim groups and raw emotional manipulation.

There is nothing in their use of "invest" that has anything to do with the traditional definition of "invest" or "investing". Investing is what responsible, good people do and they want to con you into thinking that squandering your hard-earned money on pipe dreams is as valid as putting your money into CDs or real estate.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 19, 2022 02:59 PM (3hSHB)

369 "That would be different."

It would be different. It would be far, far worse which is different. Viva la diffference!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 19, 2022 02:59 PM (u4CEu)

370 Claymores have imprinted 'front towards enemy ".

Posted by: torabora at October 19, 2022 02:59 PM (HiAtk)

371 I see the same kind of apologists of barbarism up here in Portland Maine - where the homeless crisis is only held in check by fatal cold starting right about now. The wholesome and caring people of this fair city saw the need for more shelters, so they funded and started building one... 10 miles from downtown where all the homeless actually *are*. ...
Posted by: Defenestratus at October 19, 2022 02:58 PM (9V81o)
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A friend of mine - a lefty - from Portland bemoans the "houselessness" problem and blames it on property speculators who hold empty apartments.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2022 02:59 PM (/jZNa)

372 342 Chester Gould, the cartoonist who created Dick Tracy, forecast in his "Crimestoppers Notebook" features that someday the law-abiding would live behind bars and locked doors while the criminal would roam free.
Posted by: Weak Geek
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That is a cycle. If you notice, architectural features from certain eras and societies reflect whether the times or a particular society has significant disorder. Those iron rails, massive heavy doors, bars and other features in cities like London or the villa compound style architecture in many of the Latin countries reflect periods of disorder and crime in society. There is a reason why most wealthy live behind fences, walls, private security, and islands in compounds.

Posted by: whig at October 19, 2022 03:00 PM (CXr4y)

373 331 I read that as Every Big TIT Company in the World.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 03:01 PM (PTVZy)

374 Joe Biden says that Joe Biden's depletion of SPR is working... except here in Kalifornia gas is more than it has ever been.... that is democrat working.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 19, 2022 03:01 PM (u4CEu)

375 Prop 13 is a blessing.

----------------

But has it worked? Has it worked as intended? Does it still work?
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 19, 2022 02:56 PM (sX1BW)

Yes, it still works - prop taxes can only grow at a slow rate once you purchase. It was put in because everyone was using the property taxes for 'free money' rather than have to vote on new taxes. So that means of government abuse has been shut down, and attempts to work around it have been roundly defeated for 40 some years now.

Unfortunately most of the voters haven't extended this to limiting other methods of ripping money from them and routinely vote on taxes for helping fluffy bunnies or sea birds.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2022 03:01 PM (eoQWY)

376 The best jeans were J. C Penney plain pockets when still US made. $10 a pair, cut full, good enough for work, good enough for Saturday night and the pockets wouldn't make your handgun print IYKWIMAITYD.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 19, 2022 03:01 PM (lz5hY)

377 Seriously not being homeless requires.

1. Show up reliably, on time and sober. (Some jobs sober is optional, and the standard is "functional")
2. Work 40 hours a week fairly well, as in do the simple tasks you are told to do.
3. Don't be an eyesore or a nose offender when you show up to work.
4. Be *reasonable* when talking with and interacting with others.

That's the minimums for the "employed" lifestyle. This idea that massive numbers of the homeless are rehabilitatable to this lifestyle is fiction. The idea that there isn't rehabilitation available is a fiction.

Posted by: mikethemoose at October 19, 2022 03:01 PM (QN7a1)

378 359 I see the same kind of apologists of barbarism up here in Portland Maine - where the homeless crisis is only held in check by fatal cold starting right about now. The wholesome and caring people of this fair city saw the need for more shelters, so they funded and started building one... 10 miles from downtown where all the homeless actually *are*.

None of those people commenting understand how to actually run a damn business. If the guy wanted to "hire social workers" then he'd start a social worker business...

I really can't stand people. I want to leave this place.
Posted by: Defenestratus
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You will find them anyplace where a significant number of people have college educations.

Posted by: whig at October 19, 2022 03:01 PM (CXr4y)

379 Luxury, we had sandpaper covered cardboard jeans called Toughskins, and we were happy to have them.
Posted by: Comrade flounder

*******

You filthy one-percenters with your cardboard. We painted our naked legs with octopus ink and drew pockets on our ass cheeks with charred sticks just so it looked like we had Levis. Damned grateful for it we was, too!

Posted by: Muldoon at October 19, 2022 03:02 PM (kXYt5)

380 I read that as Every Big TIT Company in the World.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 03:01 PM (PTVZy)



I would work at that company.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 03:02 PM (Zz0t1)

381 Ooof! They're shaming the victims of crime!
I guess they should not have dressed (their windows) so provocatively!

I'm glad I missed the post below. It's a stinker.

I was harvesting the green tomatoes. I have a wheelbarrow-full. Now, what to do with them all.

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at October 19, 2022 03:02 PM (Rbu5d)

382 A friend of mine - a lefty - from Portland bemoans the "houselessness" problem and blames it on property speculators who hold empty apartments.

If you give people free homes, they just destroy them. Kind of like how people who've lived on welfare their whole lives are prone to walking into a store, opening a container of something, and eating a few before setting it back down.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 19, 2022 03:02 PM (ZGrMX)

383 The actual inventor of the riveted denim pants was Jacob William Davis (born Jakobs Jufess) who was a Latvian Jew by birth. He and Strauss formed a partnership to acquire a patent and manufacture the pants.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 19, 2022 02:57 PM (bW8dp)
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... and who's name do we remember more?

But it's kind of like everybody knows Charles Darwin's name, but few people know Wallace the guy whose work was basically handed over to Darwin by the Great Britain Science Society. Or the missionary couple who first cataloged the finches of the Galapagos island.

Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 03:02 PM (krQz2)

384 324 Wasn't Levi Strauss Jewish and from NYC?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 19, 2022 02:52 PM (UuD2k)

Didn't they just fire the VP because she wanted her kids to go back to school

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at October 19, 2022 03:03 PM (xH79f)

385 The comments in that owner's post is all too common. People in CA who espouse this are proud of it! They are willing to put up with anything, the worse the better. Like Shellenberger says, they believe that as long as they are compassionate, nothing bad can happen. Worst case, they die holy martyrs.

November will reveal if more people are woke or awake. F 'em. I'm outa here.

Posted by: Ultra pj at October 19, 2022 03:03 PM (G1dq6)

386 Shoot the looters.

Posted by: free tibet at October 19, 2022 03:03 PM (iNp3L)

387 I hope they haven’t ruined the twisty section of Lombard Street.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 02:53 PM (PTVZy)

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Having to dodge the feces and needles makes it an even twistier path.

/Honestly don't know -- and have zero desire to ever return to the state itself, let alone "The City."

Posted by: ShainS -- Recently Jabbed & Boosted with the Nuclear War & Hurricane Vaccines at October 19, 2022 03:03 PM (uQtS4)

388 371 A friend of mine - a lefty - from Portland bemoans the "houselessness" problem and blames it on property speculators who hold empty apartments.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2022 02:59 PM (/jZNa)

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Guy should buy one of those properties and give it away to a houseless person.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 19, 2022 03:03 PM (LvTSG)

389
The FBI raided his house, took him into custody, and apparently nobody has heard from him since.
TODAY'S FBI *theme music*
https://tinyurl.com/2p9erz5f
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 02:57 PM (Ivdso)


He was older and I suspect he died of a heart attack or a stroke while in custody. On a John Doe warrant being picked up because he was looking for evidence behind the Afghanistan retreat.

Can you say "no one wants to remind anyone of Jamal Khashoggi"?

Posted by: Kindltot at October 19, 2022 03:03 PM (xhaym)

390 371 A friend of mine - a lefty - from Portland bemoans the "houselessness" problem and blames it on property speculators who hold empty apartments.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2022 02:59 PM (/jZNa)

Because holding empty apartments, instead of renting them, is a real monymaker. Well, in Kali, that may be true, given all the laws that cover being a landlord...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 03:03 PM (ynpvh)

391 A UK woman who is a rape survivor requested all female after surgery care at a private hospital specializing in women's Healthcare. When a dude in a wig peeked in on her without apparent medical purpose, she reported the incident.

The hospital cancelled her surgery due to a "lack of shared values."

https://bit.ly/3VHh3Yz

Posted by: bonhomme at October 19, 2022 03:03 PM (i0wNm)

392 Holy shit -- Joe warns oil/gas companies not to use their record-breaking profits to buy back shares or pay dividends, but to increase production...

@disclosetv · 1h
NOW - Biden calls on American energy companies to halt buybacks of stocks "while a war is raging."

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/
1582793276314484736

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 19, 2022 03:03 PM (yikp0)

393 Unfortunate people would be more fortunate if they didn't do drugs, obeyed the simplest of laws, got a real education (3 Rs), got a job, and so forth. That's what people do if they want to be fortunate. Or they can live off the government handouts, steal other people's stuff and live like savages.

Posted by: Eromero at October 19, 2022 03:04 PM (0OP+5)

394 On the subject of incentives, it's amazing to me that the "GOP" didn't counter the "student loan forgiveness" with a proposal along the lines of giving some kind of real, prospective incentive to get kids into things we actually need.

It would not bother me at all if we /GOP proposed free tuition for STEM degrees from approved colleges and to pay tuition/costs associated with approved vocational programs of hard/necessary jobs with skilled worker shortages (e.g. plumbers, electricians, commercial drivers, etc).

But no changing the rules of the game for those who already paid their loand or borrowed. No subsidizing Genderfluid Grievance Studies. The contrast between Team Biden's approach and paying for what we actually need could also be good politics.

Posted by: Zek at October 19, 2022 03:04 PM (fsV7e)

395 A friend of mine - a lefty - from Portland bemoans the "houselessness" problem and blames it on property speculators who hold empty apartments.


Every rental property owner should sacrifice their livelihood so the "houseless" have a place to live? What happens when they go bankrupt, lose the property and NO ONE PAYS THE BILLS?

FUCK the left is incredibly stupid.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 03:04 PM (Zz0t1)

396 >Here is the problem. You folks making that "humans" are more important than "property" are Communists that hate the idea of private property. So everything is more important than property to y'all.

More than that, for all of us plebs who aren't hedge fund managers and such, "property" equals "significant time from your life you're never getting back". It's the obtuse communist way of justifying slavery, because they deserve your shit more than you do: the person who actually labored for it.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at October 19, 2022 03:04 PM (0D0Oa)

397 None of those people commenting understand how to actually run a damn business. If the guy wanted to "hire social workers" then he'd start a social worker business...

I really can't stand people. I want to leave this place.
Posted by: Defenestratus at October 19, 2022 02:58 PM (9V81o)

The last place a social worker wants to be is right where the people they are helping are raiding the store. Some nice office a few blocks away or work from home is more their speed.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2022 03:04 PM (eoQWY)

398 43 I think after the second time they smashed the plate glass, I'd have sprung for inch-thick plexiglass.

Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 19, 2022 02:22 PM (2hcT+)
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It scatches easily.

Posted by: Ciampino - - - we are government slaves at October 19, 2022 03:04 PM (qfLjt)

399 Last visit sf was in 88/89 used to take the fairy from vallejo into sf. I suppose vallejo has as many problems as sf now. Mare Island was a great place to be stationed. Even back then vallejo was becoming a shitty place.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable, now with ultra maga at October 19, 2022 03:04 PM (ZMPCu)

400 and drew pockets on our ass cheeks with charred sticks just so it looked like we had Levis.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 19, 2022 03:02 PM


At least you could carry your wallet in yours.

Posted by: Brie Larson at October 19, 2022 03:04 PM (a3Q+t)

401 I don't give a fuck about SF. They gave us Pelosi, reap the whirlwind
Posted by: CN at October 19, 2022 02:19 PM (Zzbjj)


In fairness... if you had Pelosi, wouldn't you try to give her away?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 19, 2022 03:04 PM (z99Zw)

402 They ought to bus the homeless south to San Jose and put ‘em in the Winchester Mystery House.

I was about to mention the total lack of bathrooms in the WMH, but then you said "homeless" which make the observation moot.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 19, 2022 03:05 PM (3hSHB)

403 378 You will find them anyplace where a significant number of people have college educations.

Posted by: whig at October 19, 2022 03:01 PM (CXr4y)

In this day and age, most college education is an oxymoron.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 03:05 PM (ynpvh)

404 I've been in a squatters village in Manila. The Democrats seem to want that for everyone.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 19, 2022 03:05 PM (eGTCV)

405 Holy shit -- Joe warns oil/gas companies not to use their record-breaking profits to buy back shares or pay dividends, but to increase production...

@disclosetv · 1h
NOW - Biden calls on American energy companies to halt buybacks of stocks "while a war is raging."

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/
1582793276314484736
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 19, 2022 03:03 PM (yikp0)



And how are they supposed to increase production when there ARE NO LEASES?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 03:05 PM (Zz0t1)

406 Holy shit -- Joe warns oil/gas companies not to use their record-breaking profits to buy back shares or pay dividends, but to increase production...

@disclosetv · 1h
NOW - Biden calls on American energy companies to halt buybacks of stocks "while a war is raging."

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 19, 2022 03:03 PM (yikp0)
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Il Douche

Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 03:05 PM (krQz2)

407 @392

>>Holy shit -- Joe warns oil/gas companies not to use their record-breaking profits to buy back shares or pay dividends, but to increase production...

Expropriation cannot be far behind with this vile and wicked Junta.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 19, 2022 03:05 PM (oJb1g)

408 So they leverage the only tools in their tool belt which is lying, mis-identifying victim groups and raw emotional manipulation.

*******

The Politics of Guilt and Pity

Posted by: Muldoon at October 19, 2022 03:05 PM (kXYt5)

409 Ha Ha,

1989 or so, my friend is finishing up his rotation at UCSF and has next rotation at Walter Reed in DC. Says, "let's drive across country..." (in my old RX-7). Night before we take off, "lets pick up a tent." Stop at camping type store in San Francisco, clerk looks wide eyed, says no cash purchases only credit. Um, OK, living on credit anyway.
Turns out they had just been robbed and had no cash in till. Bot the tent and some sleeping bags anyway.

Nothing new.

Posted by: Actually Inside the Beltway at October 19, 2022 03:06 PM (fMhOl)

410 380 I read that as Every Big TIT Company in the World.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 03:01 PM (PTVZy)


I would work at that company.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 03:02 PM (Zz0t1)

one word: Trigglypuff

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 03:06 PM (ynpvh)

411 A friend of mine - a lefty - from Portland bemoans the "houselessness" problem and blames it on property speculators who hold empty apartments.

Interesting this is an anonymous group and not say a group of people to name and shame isn't it?

I suspect "empty apartments" are vacation homes, AirBnBs, and places in between residents.

BUT....if people are pissing their money away holding empty housing you can solve the problem by allowing other people to...build more housing.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2022 03:06 PM (ESjRY)

412 I’ve heard that the Sicilian mafia started as a Christian resistance force when the island was ruled by the Saracens. Don’t know whether that’s true or not.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 03:06 PM (PTVZy)

413 381 Ooof! They're shaming the victims of crime!
I guess they should not have dressed (their windows) so provocatively!

I'm glad I missed the post below. It's a stinker.

I was harvesting the green tomatoes. I have a wheelbarrow-full. Now, what to do with them all.

Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at October 19, 2022 03:02 PM (Rbu5d)

Fry 'em?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 03:06 PM (ynpvh)

414 Where is Insp. Harry Calahan, and "heroes" Officer Davis, Officer Sweet, Officer Grimes, and Lt. Briggs when we need them ?

A man's GOT to know his limitations.

Posted by: SMOD at October 19, 2022 03:06 PM (RHGPo)

415 >>> Luxury, we had sandpaper covered cardboard jeans called Toughskins, and we were happy to have them.

>Luxury. We stitched our britches out of burlap potato sacks with hemp and held them up with twine.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 19, 2022 03:06 PM (z+OQR)

416
one word: Trigglypuff
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 03:06 PM (ynpvh)



She does not have big tits. She's one of the anomalies that is fat as shit yet has small tits, which are made of mostly fat.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 03:07 PM (Zz0t1)

417 "What if instead of amplifying tired rhetoric by calling for more police -- a conversation that propagates the existence of historically racist, oppressive, and violent institutions -- you used this platform to advocate for the vital programs -- education, health care, housing, etc. -- that need more funding to strengthen our communities and support more equitable well-being?

That would be different."

***

Rimmer:
"Uhm, I think we're all beginning to lose sight of the real issue here, which is: what are we going to call ourselves? And I think it comes down to a choice between "The League Against Salivating Monsters," or - and this is my personal preference - "The Committee for the Liberation and Integration of Terrifying Organisms and their Rehabilitation Into Society." Erm, one drawback with that - the abbreviation is C.L.I.T.O.R.I.S."

Same energy.

Posted by: Azathoth at October 19, 2022 03:07 PM (wb1YC)

418 November will reveal if more people are woke or awake. F 'em. I'm outa here.
Posted by: Ultra pj at October 19, 2022 03:03 PM (G1dq6)

They are woke for you but not for them.

What fueled the recall attempt on Newsome was homeless people in their area and the tony schools they pay extra for getting woke anti-white on their dime.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2022 03:07 PM (eoQWY)

419 What SF needs is a shit ton of roof top Koreans.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 19, 2022 03:07 PM (C7jzY)

420 The SPR release isn't going to do much. No one is short of oil. The US has a refining bottleneck keeping prices high.

Restarting a few of the 5 refineries that have shutdown since 2020 would help a lot more than the SPR.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 19, 2022 03:07 PM (UuD2k)

421 I’ve heard that the Sicilian mafia started as a Christian resistance force when the island was ruled by the Saracens. Don’t know whether that’s true or not.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 03:06 PM (PTVZy)
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One story I heard was that it was resistance to French occupation in the 1500s. "Mafia" is supposedly an acronym for "Death to the French is Italy's cry".

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 19, 2022 03:08 PM (to2dd)

422 Where is Insp. Harry Calahan, and "heroes" Officer Davis, Officer Sweet, Officer Grimes, and Lt. Briggs when we need them ?


Defunded.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 03:08 PM (Zz0t1)

423 Why don't we pay criminals not to be criminal?
Posted by: The Left!

////

They have actually done that, IIRC. Wasn't it somewhere in California?

Posted by: Prime Sister at October 19, 2022 03:08 PM (tQL7r)

424 Isn't "homelessness" a lack of a material possession?

How dare these people put property over community harmony!

Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 03:08 PM (krQz2)

425 A crackhead tries opening a locked door by reaching in through the mail slot. An alert homeowner smacks the probing arm with a bat. Crackhead retreats with a broken arm.

Posted by: bonhomme at October 19, 2022 02:31 PM (i0wNm)

You misspelled 'meat cleaver'.
Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy now with twice the crazy at October 19, 2022 02:56 PM (Zvtjl)


No NO NO!
1.) The blood is hard to clean up. Inside and out both.
2.) The blood leaves a trail from the dead body to your door.
3.) The police don't care. They will arrest your ass because they know the mob isn't going to protest or say jack about fine upstanding citizens. The mob only cares about certain select dirtbags. Daunte Clark, Lamar Clark, George Floyd, not Philando Castile, who had a job and a CCW.

Posted by: rd at October 19, 2022 03:08 PM (Z32m1)

426 391 A UK woman who is a rape survivor requested all female after surgery care at a private hospital specializing in women's Healthcare. When a dude in a wig peeked in on her without apparent medical purpose, she reported the incident.

The hospital cancelled her surgery due to a "lack of shared values."

https://bit.ly/3VHh3Yz
Posted by: bonhomme at October 19, 2022 03:03 PM (i0wNm)

Someone lacked shared values with their patient.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 03:08 PM (ynpvh)

427 Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 19, 2022 03:03 PM (yikp0)

But the administration is STILL not giving out oil leases?

/facepalm

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 19, 2022 03:08 PM (oHd/0)

428 The FBI raided his house, took him into custody, and apparently nobody has heard from him since.

TODAY'S FBI *theme music*

https://tinyurl.com/2p9erz5f
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 02:57 PM (Ivdso)

His lawyer is making statements for him. But, yeah it is weird. That's why when a couple of SUVs roll up and guys with FBI stenciled on their tacticool gear, you probably should not go with them. Who knows where they are taking you and if they are actually FBI.

Posted by: WiNO at October 19, 2022 03:08 PM (EpDzw)

429 Harry Callahan: [Harry is confronted by three of the vigilante cops] You heroes killed a dozen people this week. What are you going to do next week?

Officer Davis: Kill a dozen more.

Posted by: SMOD at October 19, 2022 03:08 PM (RHGPo)

430 Straight up communism is the only real solution to society's problems. People are waking up to this fact.

Posted by: Sid, now with Aviators at October 19, 2022 03:08 PM (pXTFo)

431 I read that as Every Big TIT Company in the World.
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Jug_gs Boots

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 19, 2022 03:08 PM (yikp0)

432 Weird how the "offer social services" people don't see that thieves are just taking advantage of the opportunity to steal with impunity. The "trap" the miscreants are in is one where plundering is made so attractive that they are highly motivated to do it.

Posted by: Emmie at October 19, 2022 03:09 PM (Emce2)

433 Yes, it still works - prop taxes can only grow at a slow rate once you purchase.

---------------

In theory, I'm in favor. But in practice it doesn't sound like a good way to grow the way you would want. In theory, no property tax is better.

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 19, 2022 03:09 PM (sX1BW)

434 We stitched our britches out of burlap potato sacks

My grandma literally made my mom and her sisters dresses out of flour sacks. They used to put pretty patterns on the cloth bags back in the depression specifically for that purpose.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 03:09 PM (Ivdso)

435 Sam Kinison on the homeless.

youtube.com/watch?v=v_xDdpT4YwQ

Posted by: Darth Randall at October 19, 2022 03:09 PM (bSzfQ)

436 Quinn Martin disavows any knowledge of these actions

Posted by: SMOD at October 19, 2022 03:09 PM (RHGPo)

437 Defund the welfare system, use a fraction of the money to build and staff new asylums and load them up - problem solved.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 19, 2022 03:09 PM (lTGtQ)

438 367 SF actually has a nasty period of vigilantism in it's not too distant past.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, in vino veritas at October 19, 2022 02:59 PM (jTmQV)

I don't recall this; not doubting you.

Posted by: m at October 19, 2022 03:09 PM (8rTNG)

439
In my neck of the woods we have a homeless camp in the next town over. A solid (D) small city. If I can figure out the epicenter of the crime, look on Google Maps, and see where they're existing, the police can too. I don't blame the police for not going in, knocking the tents and crapola down and ridding the area of the vagrants - especially with the BLM/Defund shit sandwich they've been served. But some day soon the shit will hit the fan and reality will set in.

Until then, the businesses in that area are a no-go zone.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 19, 2022 03:09 PM (y3pKJ)

440 Last visit sf was in 88/89 used to take the fairy from vallejo into sf. I suppose vallejo has as many problems as sf now. Mare Island was a great place to be stationed. Even back then vallejo was becoming a shitty place.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable, now with ultra maga at October 19, 2022 03:04 PM (ZMPCu)

That's what I am talking about.

Posted by: Kramer at October 19, 2022 03:10 PM (yHsuS)

441 The crime in Vallejo makes SF look safe.
Their PD has a bunch of those MRAP vehicles.
Officers have full auto 9mm weapons, suppressed.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, in vino veritas at October 19, 2022 03:10 PM (jTmQV)

442 I suspect "empty apartments" are vacation homes, AirBnBs, and places in between residents.

BUT....if people are pissing their money away holding empty housing you can solve the problem by allowing other people to...build more housing.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 19, 2022 03:06 PM (ESjRY)

Could also be people removing their apartments from circulation after COVID made it impossible to evict people, When all are out then they convert to some other use. I have heard that one family who had apartments are collecting themselves into one of them as a family compound like in the old days.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2022 03:10 PM (eoQWY)

443 But it's kind of like everybody knows Charles Darwin's name, but few people know Wallace the guy whose work was basically handed over to Darwin by the Great Britain Science Society. Or the missionary couple who first cataloged the finches of the Galapagos island.Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 03:02 PM (krQz2)

That is a good question, who is to be lauded for a new theory, a man who was collecting bugs for resale in Java who had a brilliant vision during a malaria relapse, someone who kept a diary, or someone who went on a voyage, reviewed his documentation, wrote a number of monographs and a serious work on relations of barnacles (which he despised in the end) with years of research to back up what would otherwise be an unsupportable claim since there was no actual accepted mechanism for variations within a species much less evolution, and published against his better instincts because he felt it was an affront to his personal faith.
I understand the thrill of saying "I know it all, and everything is a manipulated lie" but all of life is manipulated, and very few people get full credit. The fight for primacy goes back to Newton and Leibnitz and is pretty pointless

Posted by: Kindltot at October 19, 2022 03:10 PM (xhaym)

444 Holy shit -- Joe warns oil/gas companies not to use their record-breaking profits to buy back shares or pay dividends, but to increase production...

They're itching to nationalize oil and gas. And part of me would not care ... because the oil and gas industry does manipulate prices and take a ton of government money. You can't look at that industry through the lens of Adam Smith or Milton Friedman economics. The segment does not work that way.

Nevertheless, if they get nationalized, it'll mean less oil and gas. Its just not like we're getting all the oil and gas possible out of the current industry either.

Posted by: SG at October 19, 2022 03:10 PM (uucmX)

445 438 367 SF actually has a nasty period of vigilantism in it's not too distant past.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, in vino veritas at October 19, 2022 02:59 PM (jTmQV)

I don't recall this; not doubting you.
Posted by: m at October 19, 2022 03:09 PM (8rTNG)

I've heard that LA had some vigilante committee at one time, but don't know about SF.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 19, 2022 03:10 PM (UuD2k)

446 I bought a pair of jeans a couple of years ago.
Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 02:50 PM


The horror. The horror!

Posted by: George Will at October 19, 2022 03:11 PM (xttsV)

447 432 Weird how the "offer social services" people don't see that thieves are just taking advantage of the opportunity to steal with impunity. The "trap" the miscreants are in is one where plundering is made so attractive that they are highly motivated to do it.
Posted by: Emmie at October 19, 2022 03:09 PM (Emce2)

Over / Under on whether the guy is an Unemployed Social Worker?

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 19, 2022 03:11 PM (oHd/0)

448
Who goes camping anymore? Haven't bums taken over campgrounds? The hills have eyes style?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions


When I was living in SoCal about 7 years ago, I stopped hiking the coastal mountains because the local druggies started planting larger and larger pot farms off of the popular hiking trails. Eventually, two grow operations had a dispute and one guy got himself murdered and buried in a shallow grave about 10 yards off of one of the trails I frequented.

The bums would occasionally camp off the trails, but it was rare. Too much work to hike partway up the mountain.

One incident in Ventura that comes to mind from about 10 years ago. A campground at the west edge of town just off the freeway, right next to the Ventura river bed, which the bums used as a campground (and regularly lost control of their campfires). One night, the bums came up into the formal campground and dragged someone off for some rape and murder. If memory serves, they just missed getting someone from a local Boy Scout troop camping that night.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 19, 2022 03:11 PM (n+4am)

449 one demands the government spend more money on social welfare

If we throw bread to the pigeons, maybe they'll go away.

Posted by: t-bird at October 19, 2022 03:11 PM (dNNCD)

450 Am I the only one who thinks vacations to California as an ANTIFA looter would be fun? Seriously, I would pay series money to get dressed up and loot left wing businesses.

Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan MFers at October 19, 2022 03:12 PM (bkf/+)

451 Detective Lt. Mike Stone, Inspector Steve Keller, Inspector Bill Tanner and Inspector Dan Robbins are all retired

Posted by: SMOD at October 19, 2022 03:12 PM (RHGPo)

452 OT: Ukraine asking that Israel supply them with Iron Dome missile defense.

Ukraine's demanding ways are getting a little annoying.

Posted by: portlandon at October 19, 2022 03:12 PM (+oR7L)

453 In the end Darwin was saying E pur si muove, and look what that earned Galileo

Posted by: Kindltot at October 19, 2022 03:12 PM (xhaym)

454 437 Defund the welfare system, use a fraction of the money to build and staff new asylums and load them up - problem solved.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 19, 2022 03:09 PM (lTGtQ)

This.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 19, 2022 03:12 PM (BdMk6)

455 So I leave Travis AFB after coming back from Nam the second time.I have hours to kill and ask the cab driver how much a little car tour would be. Having a pocketful of money, I give him $50 and he takes me on a nice tourist tour, like that super winding street and other stuff. And he says good thing I wasn't like some others who wanted to see stuff best left unseen and this was in the early 70s.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 19, 2022 03:12 PM (lz5hY)

456 In theory, I'm in favor. But in practice it doesn't sound like a good way to grow the way you would want. In theory, no property tax is better.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 19, 2022 03:09 PM (sX1BW)

Even back then many cities here had tons of anti-growth policies in place - Rent control in Santa Monica. But the impetus for Prop 13 was runaway growth in property tax as a revenue source.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2022 03:12 PM (eoQWY)

457 Do a search on San Francisco Committee of Vigilance, it will come up.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, in vino veritas at October 19, 2022 03:13 PM (jTmQV)

458 San Francisco in the 19th century was a hell hole next to a posh city (Barbary Coast) and yeah every so often the upright citizens would sweep through the Barbary Coast and burn everything, kill everyone they caught, and drive them out.

Then they'd come back and it would be awful again.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 03:13 PM (Ivdso)

459 396 >Here is the problem. You folks making that "humans" are more important than "property" are Communists that hate the idea of private property. So everything is more important than property to y'all.

More than that, for all of us plebs who aren't hedge fund managers and such, "property" equals "significant time from your life you're never getting back". It's the obtuse communist way of justifying slavery, because they deserve your shit more than you do: the person who actually labored for it.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at October 19, 2022 03:04 PM (0D0Oa)

===
Yep. It should never surprise us that the willing descendants of the slavery party somehow remain pro slavery.

Posted by: jc at October 19, 2022 03:13 PM (N1WXz)

460 I read that as Every Big TIT Company in the World.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 03:01 PM (PTVZy)


I would work at that company.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 03:02 PM (Zz0t1)

I will invest in this company. Best idea I have heard of all day. Quality Control will be critical.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 19, 2022 03:14 PM (M+Lyo)

461 I've heard that LA had some vigilante committee at one time, but don't know about SF.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 19, 2022 03:10 PM (UuD2k)

Yes, it did... if memory serves... the reason Gen. Grant was in hot water at the beginning of the Civil War was that he had used Fed Troops to put down a large vigilante movement in San Fran.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 19, 2022 03:14 PM (oHd/0)

462 Where is the Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh when we need him ?
Rancho Rajneesh used to be "the" place for the homeless on the West coast

Posted by: SMOD at October 19, 2022 03:14 PM (RHGPo)

463 I guess when you go in the street, "overhand" or "underhand" takes on a different meaning when TP ain't readily available...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 19, 2022 02:19 PM (YIVH2)

Can’t we just shake on it and agree to be different?

Ummm, not that hand.

Posted by: Advo at October 19, 2022 03:14 PM (LcnVR)

464 412 I’ve heard that the Sicilian mafia started as a Christian resistance force when the island was ruled by the Saracens. Don’t know whether that’s true or not.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
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Link I posted upstream was by an Italian historian about the origins. He puts it at the 1700's. Control by the Muslims was for about 80 years during the 800's so that was a doubtful origin story. The Norman conquest was over by 1139 so that is doubtful as well that the Mafia was founded as anti-French movement. The argument that it was founded as a resistance to the Hapsburgs has a bit more historical support due to overlapping eras but not much.

Posted by: whig at October 19, 2022 03:14 PM (CXr4y)

465 Looter tourism. I'm totally in. Let's go get our piece and make the liberals excuse our behavior!

Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan MFers at October 19, 2022 03:14 PM (bkf/+)

466 Newton versus Liebniz: The Cage Match

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 03:14 PM (PTVZy)

467 Am I the only one who thinks vacations to California as an ANTIFA looter would be fun? Seriously, I would pay series money to get dressed up and loot left wing businesses.

Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan MFers at October 19, 2022 03:12 PM (bkf/+)

Looting tours of SF and beyond?

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 19, 2022 03:14 PM (yHsuS)

468 It would not bother me at all if we /GOP proposed free tuition for STEM degrees from approved colleges and to pay tuition/costs associated with approved vocational programs of hard/necessary jobs with skilled worker shortages (e.g. plumbers, electricians, commercial drivers, etc).
Posted by: Zek


Because the Dems still control congress and would morph any bill into a set of Leftist controlled programs. The loan forgiveness is not a winning policy with most voters despite what the MSM insists.

A radical overhaul of the education systems* is needed and that will only come about with a GOP congress and admin.

* s because national control of education needs to be returned back to localities and states.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 19, 2022 03:14 PM (IyrhE)

469 Newton versus Liebniz: The Cage Match
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 03:14 PM (PTVZy)
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Newton was a shit about it, too.

Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 03:15 PM (krQz2)

470 450 Am I the only one who thinks vacations to California as an ANTIFA looter would be fun? Seriously, I would pay series money to get dressed up and loot left wing businesses.
Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan MFers at October 19, 2022 03:12 PM (bkf/+)

55 Ya know what?

I'ma start going to San Fran on vacations. Big ol' rich-ass city where theft is legal, and I'm guaranteed to find people I despise everywhere I look, whether they be sheep or wolves. They're all puds and CHUDs.

I'll take the wife and kids on safari. We'll go to upscale shops all day for a couple days, looting like crazy, and then pack up all our booty in crates, ship it back home, and put it up on the wife's online store.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 19, 2022 02:23 PM (oINRc)

Posted by: m at October 19, 2022 03:15 PM (8rTNG)

Posted by: Atlas at October 19, 2022 03:15 PM (EaEMG)

472 Am I the only one who thinks vacations to California as an ANTIFA looter would be fun? Seriously, I would pay series money to get dressed up and loot left wing businesses.

I kind of love that idea. I wouldn't actually participate, but I'd very much enjoy the videos.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 19, 2022 03:15 PM (ZGrMX)

473 Dorothy Day, I think said it best when trying to dispel the myth of the "noble poor"

"There are two things you should know about the poor: they tend to smell, and they are ungrateful"

Now she was a true humanitarian whom worked tirelessly to provide for the poor, including all of those rehabilitation into society things that lefties love so much. Dorothy was a true follower of Christ in that extent that even though she had no allusions to the attitudes of the poor still remembered each person was an image of God, and by Christian charity, due charity, not only for the people she could help get on their feet, but the others, care for the mentally ill whom could not ever overcome mental difficulties to join society, or others still whose vices held them back, even if their was only a distant hope of some future repentance of those habits that made rehabilitation impossible.

Posted by: mikethemoose at October 19, 2022 03:15 PM (QN7a1)

474 I've heard that LA had some vigilante committee at one time, but don't know about SF.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 19, 2022 03:10 PM (UuD2k)

SF had a rough period during the gold rush. Vigilantes basically took over when the city did nothing. The eventual result was SF's unique private police forces as seen in the Christian Slater movie Kuffs. At some point, the cops are going to have to turn a blind eye when citizens begin taking justice into their own hands.

Posted by: WiNO at October 19, 2022 03:15 PM (EpDzw)

475 466 Newton versus Liebniz: The Cage Match

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 03:14 PM (PTVZy)

I don't want to calculate the odds

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 03:15 PM (ynpvh)

476 McMillan & Wife could clean this shit up!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Smarter Than Lumpy Fetterman! at October 19, 2022 03:16 PM (FVME7)

477 >>>They're itching to nationalize oil and gas. And part of me would not care ... because the oil and gas industry does manipulate prices and take a ton of government money. You can't look at that industry through the lens of Adam Smith or Milton Friedman economics. The segment does not work that way.

>This has been nothing new since the Louisiana Purchase. How much of that land is owned by the State and Federal governments and not We The People? They're saving it to sell to the ChiComs.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 19, 2022 03:16 PM (z+OQR)

478 Deterrence is the key.

Hearkening back to ancient Greece, we should adopt Draconian measures.

It is said that Draco himself, when asked why he had fixed the punishment of death for most offenses, answered that he considered these lesser crimes to deserve it, and he had no greater punishment for more important ones.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at October 19, 2022 03:16 PM (DsA2n)

479 Nevertheless, if they get nationalized, it'll mean less oil and gas. Its just not like we're getting all the oil and gas possible out of the current industry either.
Posted by: SG at October 19, 2022 03:10 PM (uucmX)

The American oil industry has nearly wrecked itself twice in the last decade from prioritizing production over returns. It had a strong growth now, profits later mentality.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 19, 2022 03:16 PM (eYoxG)

480 Yes, it did... if memory serves... the reason Gen. Grant was in hot water at the beginning of the Civil War was that he had used Fed Troops to put down a large vigilante movement in San Fran.

Yeah. Because individual citizens using force against other citizens is vigilantism. But government using force against other citizens is right and just.

Seems to me, the only difference is the uniforms.

Posted by: SG at October 19, 2022 03:16 PM (uucmX)

481 480 Yes, it did... if memory serves... the reason Gen. Grant was in hot water at the beginning of the Civil War was that he had used Fed Troops to put down a large vigilante movement in San Fran.

Yeah. Because individual citizens using force against other citizens is vigilantism. But government using force against other citizens is right and just.

Seems to me, the only difference is the uniforms.

Posted by: SG at October 19, 2022 03:16 PM (uucmX)

And who's doing the backing

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 03:16 PM (ynpvh)

482 nothing left to do but shrug

Posted by: Atlas at October 19, 2022 03:17 PM (EaEMG)

483 My grandma literally made my mom and her sisters dresses out of flour sacks. They used to put pretty patterns on the cloth bags back in the depression specifically for that purpose.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


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My grandmother made those for me. And I wore them proudly.

Posted by: Prime Sister at October 19, 2022 03:17 PM (tQL7r)

484 Newton versus Liebniz: The Cage Match

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 03:14 PM (PTVZy)

I don't want to calculate the odds
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 03:15 PM (ynpvh)
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How derivative.

Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 03:17 PM (krQz2)

485 Who would have guessed. Impossible to have seen this coming ? Right ?

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at October 19, 2022 03:17 PM (ytSiK)

486 484 Newton versus Liebniz: The Cage Match

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 03:14 PM (PTVZy)

I don't want to calculate the odds
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 03:15 PM (ynpvh)
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How derivative.

Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 03:17 PM (krQz2)

Would you prefer an integrative approach?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 03:17 PM (ynpvh)

487 482 nothing left to do but shrug
Posted by: Atlas at October 19, 2022 03:17 PM (EaEMG)

LOL

Posted by: m at October 19, 2022 03:17 PM (8rTNG)

488 My grandmother made those for me. And I wore them proudly.

as well you ought!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 03:18 PM (Ivdso)

489 The Principia Discordia tells us there is constructive chaos and destructive chaos, constructive order and destructive order.

SF is in the destructive-chaos camp.

Posted by: The Chap in the Deerstalker Cap at October 19, 2022 03:18 PM (N/KJF)

490 The homeless criminals in California already have a place where they can inhabit. It is called a jail.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 19, 2022 03:18 PM (lTGtQ)

491 I added a comment over at linkedin

Posted by: free tibet at October 19, 2022 03:18 PM (iNp3L)

492 473 The best way to eliminate poverty is not let the poor get too comfortable. Something Ben Franklin kinda said.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 19, 2022 03:18 PM (lz5hY)

493 Knock the electricity out and let nature take its course.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 19, 2022 03:19 PM (C7jzY)

494 486 484 Newton versus Liebniz: The Cage Match
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 03:14 PM (PTVZy)

I don't want to calculate the odds
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 03:15 PM (ynpvh)

How derivative.
Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 03:17 PM (krQz2)

Would you prefer an integrative approach?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 03:17 PM (ynpvh)

You are committing math!

Posted by: m at October 19, 2022 03:19 PM (8rTNG)

495 The homeless criminals in California already have a place where they can inhabit. It is called a jail.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 19, 2022 03:18 PM (lTGtQ)
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Exactly!

Posted by: Ebenezer Scrooge at October 19, 2022 03:19 PM (krQz2)

496 The shop owner needs to move to a purple state, set up shop then wait for the criminals to catch up.

Posted by: Skip at October 19, 2022 03:19 PM (xhxe8)

497 490 The homeless criminals in California already have a place where they can inhabit. It is called a jail.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 19, 2022 03:18 PM (lTGtQ)

Doesn't happen because the other criminals hold office.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 03:19 PM (ynpvh)

498 481 I think it was Sherman you are thinking of, not Grant. Sherman actually lived in SF for a time.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 03:19 PM (PTVZy)

499 500!

Posted by: m at October 19, 2022 03:20 PM (8rTNG)

500 oops

Posted by: m at October 19, 2022 03:20 PM (8rTNG)

501 I'm going to guess this guy votes Dem 100% and will do so this election. If that the case he is getting what he voted for. Cry me a river.

Posted by: Ripley at October 19, 2022 03:20 PM (MxEKc)

502 It would not bother me at all if we /GOP proposed free tuition for STEM degrees from approved colleges and to pay tuition/costs associated with approved vocational programs of hard/necessary jobs with skilled worker shortages (e.g. plumbers, electricians, commercial drivers, etc).

Long term, that policy would bother me quite a bit. And I should know. I'm a proud, self employed STEM grad from a Div II school you've never heard of. And early on, I watched maintenance guys take home bigger checks every week. For years. Even though they were asking me what to do.

One thing, in this economy, that is long overdue is wages shooting up to get certain folks with particular sets of skills. Those skills are not owed. No reason to have have Big Gub'Mint drive down the demand by artificially increasing the supply.

Posted by: SG at October 19, 2022 03:20 PM (uucmX)

503 Disclose.tv @disclosetv · 7h
JUST IN - Israel will not supply weapons to Ukraine — defense minister

MORE - Israel offered Ukraine assistance in developing a life-saving early warning system, Gantz added.
7:28 AM · Oct 19, 2022

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 19, 2022 03:21 PM (yikp0)

504 493 Knock the electricity out and let nature take its course.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 19, 2022 03:19 PM (C7jzY)

Oh, that's a regular occurrence here. Santa Ana winds? Power gets cut off to some parts of San Diego.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 03:21 PM (ynpvh)

505 Newton versus Liebniz: The Cage Match
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 03:14 PM (PTVZy)

I don't want to calculate the odds

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 03:15 PM (ynpvh)

How derivative.
Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 03:17 PM (krQz2)

Would you prefer an integrative approach?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 03:17 PM (ynpvh)

You are committing math!
Posted by: m at October 19, 2022 03:19 PM (8rTNG)
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I knew it was a slippery slope!

Posted by: Ebenezer Scrooge at October 19, 2022 03:21 PM (krQz2)

506 Damn. I'm a design engineer. I cannot afford the loss of IQ incurred reading those suggestions. Fuck me to death the stupid is fucking fatal with that group. Let them live in their hell hole. I don't care.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 19, 2022 03:21 PM (QSjkU)

507 More times than not, poverty is not the absence of money.

It is the absence of civility, self-discipline, responsibility and motivation.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 19, 2022 03:21 PM (lf83v)

508 I'm going to guess this guy votes Dem 100% and will do so this election.

Touches hot pan: OWWWWWW

Looks at burned hand: (yells) THAT'S RACIST

Touches hot pan: OWWWWW

Looks at burned hand: (yells) THAT'S RACIST

/repeat

Posted by: Dem voters at October 19, 2022 03:21 PM (ESjRY)

509 481 I think it was Sherman you are thinking of, not Grant. Sherman actually lived in SF for a time.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 03:19 PM (PTVZy)

They both were in that area. Sherman started a bank there IIRC which ended up going bust and he had a hard time because he insisted in paying back the outstanding loans. Grant was there in the area but not in SF proper from what I remember.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2022 03:22 PM (eoQWY)

510 494 486 484 Newton versus Liebniz: The Cage Match
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 03:14 PM (PTVZy)
I don't want to calculate the odds
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 03:15 PM (ynpvh)
How derivative.
Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 03:17 PM (krQz2)
Would you prefer an integrative approach?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 03:17 PM (ynpvh)

You are committing math!
Posted by: m at October 19, 2022 03:19 PM (8rTNG)

I'm trying to avoid being complex on the issue.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 19, 2022 03:22 PM (ynpvh)

511 506 Damn. I'm a design engineer. I cannot afford the loss of IQ incurred reading those suggestions. Fuck me to death the stupid is fucking fatal with that group. Let them live in their hell hole. I don't care.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 19, 2022 03:21 PM (QSjkU)

========

I wonder if you've read any of my dad's papers... He's an experimental design expert.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 19, 2022 03:22 PM (LvTSG)

512 It's certainly not just San Francisco but some people just don't get it. You can learn from others mistakes.

There's a guy on utube, TOON 215, who had done driving tours of North Philly and other nearby locations. What's interesting is how many times the public and low income housing has been replaced; why so many parked cars often have out-of-state license plates; the demise of stores - grocery, mom & pop type, boutiques, etc. - and gentrification. Philly's magic has been to have non-profit corporations, such as hospitals take over much of the vital city areas to crush the tax base; splash money around in lesser areas (tiny non-profits are prolific); get the votes; entrap the worse, often through people from their areas accumulating 'generational wealth' by buying up the properties for section 8 rentals or, especially now, REITS & gentrification. Then the wealthy are enticed back through the offering of 10-year tax abatements & more for certain properties & Center City becomes spectacular once again.

The worse have been 'channeled' to another location, such as a collar county or a small city or two within 100 miles. Then the cycle begins again.

Posted by: Lola at October 19, 2022 03:22 PM (NIYa7)

513 495 The homeless criminals in California already have a place where they can inhabit. It is called a jail.

Posted by: Thomas Paine
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Due to constitutional reasons, it actually costs much more to the citizens to keep them in jail and a lot of homeless shuffle in and out of jail depending on season and what their addictions or mental illness cause them to do on occasion. Prison, last time I checked runs about 60-80k per year per prisoner and jail is a bit cheaper at somewhere between 30k to 50k per year and that was at least one decade ago. If you have an inmates with a lot of medical needs, the costs skyrocket. Elderly inmate costs often run well over 100k per year of incarceration.

Posted by: whig at October 19, 2022 03:23 PM (CXr4y)

514 50 rough men with a mission could clean up that city in a month.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 19, 2022 03:23 PM (QSjkU)

515 Cotopaxi

Is this supposed to sound like feminine products, or is that by accident?

Cotex + Maxi pad = Cotopaxi
Posted by: bonhomme

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Whew! I'm glad you noticed that. Thought I was the only one

Posted by: Prime Sister at October 19, 2022 03:23 PM (tQL7r)

516 End of the thread fun fact...

Just booked a flight for the wife and I to Paris. From Detroit, the cost for 2 business class seats was $17,544. Leaving from Toronto, it was $5692.46 total.

What the fuck?

We'll have a nice night in Toronto prior to leaving.

Posted by: jwest at October 19, 2022 03:23 PM (/BlEx)

517 The price of national divorce, for their side, would be us doing well. It would hurt more than their ruin.

I thought the Kelly novels exgadurated until I thought of East Berlin. Of course Schleicher has been there.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 19, 2022 03:24 PM (o0vSu)

518 Maybe the Monkey Pox will do its job?

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 19, 2022 03:24 PM (C7jzY)

519 Long term, that policy would bother me quite a bit. And I should know. I'm a proud, self employed STEM grad from a Div II school you've never heard of. And early on, I watched maintenance guys take home bigger checks every week. For years. Even though they were asking me what to do.

One thing, in this economy, that is long overdue is wages shooting up to get certain folks with particular sets of skills. Those skills are not owed. No reason to have have Big Gub'Mint drive down the demand by artificially increasing the supply.
Posted by: SG at October 19, 2022 03:20 PM (uucmX)

We are already seeing the death of STEM in the unis approaching with an attack on a professor for giving bad grades and being too hard. They will come for all of them eventually, best start a new way to train workers because the old way is dead.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2022 03:24 PM (eoQWY)

520 Time Magazine's cover story this week is about how Lincoln saved democracy and we can too. I believe he killed several hundred thousand Democrats so maybe they're right. Of course, we have a larger population today so we may have to scale up that hundreds of thousands.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Smarter Than Lumpy Fetterman! at October 19, 2022 03:24 PM (FVME7)

521 Has Cotopaxi or the businesses around tried to create some community a Committee of Vigilance for the homeless and unfortunate in that area?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 19, 2022 03:24 PM (YqDXo)

522 The Left is so dumb. Portland is having problems filling up their new tiny house villages because the homeless don't want to live there. Most don't even want an apartment. They have found that being a thief and living in a tent suits them.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 19, 2022 03:25 PM (uz3Px)

523 We'll have a nice night in Toronto prior to leaving.
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No shit. Toronto may have English speakers at their airport.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 19, 2022 03:25 PM (C7jzY)

524 513 Sheriff Joe of Maricopa County AZ used to keep them locked up for under a few bucks a day. Tents, adequate food, and put them to work.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 19, 2022 03:25 PM (lz5hY)

525 Newton versus Liebniz: The Cage Match



The cage match had to be postponed due to an emergency dental procedure on Liebniz for a painful calculus.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at October 19, 2022 03:25 PM (DsA2n)

526 The comments at the businessman's linkedin site are horrifyingly treacly.

Posted by: m at October 19, 2022 03:25 PM (8rTNG)

527 San Francisco always bounces back but it's going to take a decade, minimum, this time.

Time to buy a condo downtown will be after a couple 50 story condo buildings burn to the ground. The remaining buildings will have 50 cal 24/7 coverage afterwards and the worm will turn but the Lefty cowards won't get that.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at October 19, 2022 03:26 PM (DePyg)

528 Prison, last time I checked runs about 60-80k per year per prisoner and jail is a bit cheaper at somewhere between 30k to 50k per year and that was at least one decade ago. If you have an inmates with a lot of medical needs, the costs skyrocket. Elderly inmate costs often run well over 100k per year of incarceration.
Posted by: whig at October 19, 2022 03:23 PM (CXr4y)

Like everything else, almost none of that money is spent down at the level of individual cells. Gut the useless admin staff and costs would go down a lot.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2022 03:26 PM (eoQWY)

529 Tony Bennett went out of his way to plug for the Donks. He doesn't really love the city by the bay after all.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at October 19, 2022 03:26 PM (ZRmlh)

530
Who flies to Paris in less then first class?

* lights Cuban with $100 bill *

* Puts Cuban out and apologizes, while picking up lighter *

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 19, 2022 03:26 PM (y3pKJ)

531 @Breaking911 · 33m
REPORTER: "Does President Biden want more migrants to come to Delaware?"

KJP: "I don't even understand that question. I'll move on."

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 19, 2022 03:26 PM (yikp0)

532 Leaving from Toronto, it was $5692.46 total.
_________

But you have to promise to attend the Maple Leafs home games. We'll give you season tickets, but you have to attend. And cheer.

Posted by: The City of Toronto at October 19, 2022 03:26 PM (lf83v)

533 163 Does Zombie live in SF?

Zombie used to post. What's the 411? Miss the wisdom.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at October 19, 2022 03:26 PM (D50EB)

534 >>>Could you create a coalition of those who will protect your street or watch out for it because they know they are welcomed and loved there?

They call it Neighborhood Watch.

Say, wasn't George Zimmerman part of a Neighborhood Watch program?

Posted by: No Name Today at October 19, 2022 03:26 PM (I+KxP)

535 Time Magazine's cover story this week is about how Lincoln saved democracy and we can too.
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Suggested read, 'The Real Lincoln', DiLorenzo

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2022 03:27 PM (2eKfM)

536 Ah, the "I'm rich y'all" humblebrag returns!

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at October 19, 2022 03:27 PM (0D0Oa)

537 At some point, the cops are going to have to turn a blind eye when citizens begin taking justice into their own hands.
Posted by: WiNO


Problem being that every law enforcement outfit has been incentivized to crack down on any activity by Average Joe. Why? Because he has something to live for. He has a job, a family, some property. Thugs don't.

Look at the FIBBIE operations to start shit over the past few years. Politicians want an overreaction so the can lock into place greater draconian laws that exacerbate the situation. They really want a neo-feudal situation; lords in their castles and the serfs below being constantly harried by brigands.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 19, 2022 03:27 PM (IyrhE)

538 It would be wrong and stupid to shoot the criminals. We should shoot the people who want to decriminalize everything. The criminals would get the message.

Posted by: Wally at October 19, 2022 03:27 PM (UEzis)

539 "Where is the Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh when we need him ? "

Last seen driving off in one of his gold plated Rolls Royce's.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at October 19, 2022 03:27 PM (fv27Y)

540

57 When the dead bodies start stacking up, nobody will give a shit because the neighborhood will be vacant.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 19, 2022 02:23 PM (z+OQR)



They are piling up, because in SF, the chances of the cops catching murderers is the lowest of all large cities in the U.S.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at October 19, 2022 03:27 PM (CCf67)

541 The only way to deter crime in a lawless area is to make committing it bad for one's mortality.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at October 19, 2022 03:27 PM (F5ekr)

542 San Francisco is now like an 8th grader, sitting in its own shitty diaper, flinging poo at and biting anyone who comes near, and complaining about its condition. When SF was a baby, this was tolerated. When it moved on to elementary school, many took notice, but those closest said they just didn't understand. SF will soon graduate high school in the same fetid diaper, but time will tell if those who birthed this stinking, useless wretch will ever tire of its antics.

Posted by: red speck at October 19, 2022 03:27 PM (gS3OW)

543 #392 Update:
@Breaking911 · 1h
POTUS: “Let's debunk some myths here. My administration has not stopped or slowed U.S. oil production—quite the opposite.”

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 19, 2022 03:28 PM (yikp0)

544 My monacle nearly fell out when I saw that, Lovey!

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at October 19, 2022 03:28 PM (0D0Oa)

545 535 Time Magazine's cover story this week is about how Lincoln saved democracy and we can too.
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Suggested read, 'The Real Lincoln', DiLorenzo
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Yeah, just like Woody Saved Democracy by throwing us in to WWI. Moar like saving Wall Street's loan portfolio.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 19, 2022 03:28 PM (C7jzY)

546 We are already seeing the death of STEM in the unis approaching with an attack on a professor for giving bad grades and being too hard. They will come for all of them eventually, best start a new way to train workers because the old way is dead.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2022 03:24 PM (eoQWY)


That is true, and I pissed off management early in my career - which started in the mid 90s - for making the suggestion.

Two years of formal training is good enough for most things called "technical" today. Including mine. Then a couple years of funneled work into positions somewhere. Then, after that, you either need and deserve more training ... or you don't.

And lets not kid anybody. I interned with plenty of MS and a few PhD folks with experience in aerospace and such. Get this ... they all went through Boeing School or such after they go those shiny degrees as well.

Posted by: SG at October 19, 2022 03:28 PM (uucmX)

547 "Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. "

Hiya Mike.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at October 19, 2022 03:28 PM (fv27Y)

548 Sweet jeebus. This just happened.

@RyanFournier

Karine Jean-Pierre just said that a BAN on American petroleum products is "on the table."

These people cannot lose their jobs fast enough.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 19, 2022 03:28 PM (ptqGC)

549 539 >>>"Where is the Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh when we need him ? "

Last seen driving off in one of his gold plated Rolls Royce's.


Didn't he get killed by one of his followers/administrators?

Posted by: red speck at October 19, 2022 03:28 PM (gS3OW)

550 I’m going to start hanging these scum by their ankles, upside down.

The store owners, that is.

I am the homeless. I am the meth user.

I’m Woke Batman!

Posted by: The Batman at October 19, 2022 03:28 PM (ai2Yq)

551 Also organized theft rings are not doing it out of desperation, they're doing it because it's easy money and practically zero risk. Even safer than dealing drugs.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at October 19, 2022 03:28 PM (F5ekr)

552 You can either put your criminals in jail, or live in one yourself. there is no third option.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at October 19, 2022 03:29 PM (+DS2f)

553 509 Some guys tried to get some money they were owed by the general’s by threatening him.

But, the SF city council asked them politely, “Please, don’t squeeze the Sherman.”

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 19, 2022 03:29 PM (PTVZy)

554 38 It would be wrong and stupid to shoot the criminals. We should shoot the people who want to decriminalize everything. The criminals would get the message.
Posted by: Wally at October 19, 2022 03:27 PM (UEzis)

Ah, c'mon. We can shoot a few criminals too, can't we?

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 19, 2022 03:29 PM (BdMk6)

555 Yeah, just like Woody Saved Democracy by throwing us in to WWI.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 19, 2022 03:28 PM (C7jzY)
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There was a snake in his boot.

Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 03:29 PM (krQz2)

556 Where is Insp. Harry Calahan, and "heroes" Officer Davis, Officer Sweet, Officer Grimes, and Lt. Briggs when we need them ?

A man's GOT to know his limitations.
Posted by: SMOD at October 19, 2022 03:06 PM


You want Harry Callahan.
You'd settle for Barney Fife.
You'll get Lt. Frank Drebbin.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 19, 2022 03:29 PM (f1WnY)

557 The Left is so dumb. Portland is having problems filling up their new tiny house villages because the homeless don't want to live there. Most don't even want an apartment. They have found that being a thief and living in a tent suits them.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 19, 2022 03:25 PM (uz3Px)
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What are the strings? One of the serious problems with "affordable housing" or housing subsidies is that those programs typically require - quite reasonably - no drug use or crime. If you're caught doing drugs or committing crimes, you get kicked out.

People who prefer their drug habits or criminality to not living on the street won't accept that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 19, 2022 03:29 PM (/jZNa)

558 Just actually read the update. That mentality is why Cali is an unaffordable shithole. How about those that are commenting on how the BUSINESS should be funneling money to house the homeless.


Are YOU housing the homeless, asshole? Go fuck your self-righteous ass.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 03:29 PM (Zz0t1)

559 Long term, that policy would bother me quite a bit. And I should know. I'm a proud, self employed STEM grad from a Div II school you've never heard of. And early on, I watched maintenance guys take home bigger checks every week. For years. Even though they were asking me what to do.

One thing, in this economy, that is long overdue is wages shooting up to get certain folks with particular sets of skills. Those skills are not owed. No reason to have have Big Gub'Mint drive down the demand by artificially increasing the supply.
Posted by: SG
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It is likely that your schooling was subsidized by tax payers either directly if a state school or indirectly via grants, loans, etc. available to your private college. Most medical professionals that are of a certain age attended medical colleges that were heavily subsidized by government spending overtly and indirectly. Then there is Medicare and Medicaid spending. And so it goes.

Railroads were subsidized, schools in the newer parts of the US than the original colonies were subsidized, the land grant college system was set up by Lincoln, and so forth.

Posted by: whig at October 19, 2022 03:30 PM (CXr4y)

560 The answer is the number 6.

Taggart

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 19, 2022 03:30 PM (lz5hY)

561 I think claiming Lincoln saved Democracy is a bizarre one; he saved people from bondage by slavery, but democracy? If anything he opposed it by attacking people for voting a way he did not like. I agree with the need to stop slavery but Democracy? No.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 03:30 PM (Ivdso)

562 You can either put your criminals in jail, or live in one yourself. there is no third option.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at October 19, 2022 03:29 PM (+DS2f)
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Another lesson from Escape From New York.

Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 03:30 PM (krQz2)

563 550 I’m going to start hanging these scum by their ankles, upside down.

The store owners, that is.

I am the homeless. I am the meth user.

I’m Woke Batman!
Posted by: The Batman at October 19, 2022 03:28 PM (ai2Yq)
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Glad you didn't go with "Alleyway-murder Man" H/T to Ryan George.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at October 19, 2022 03:30 PM (F5ekr)

564 @RyanFournier

Karine Jean-Pierre just said that a BAN on American petroleum products is "on the table."


What the fucking fuck?

Posted by: Ian S. at October 19, 2022 03:30 PM (ZGrMX)

565 Walgreens closed all their stores in San Fran.

I hope all these apologists for these criminals one day have the opportunity to experience first hand what these store owners have. Good and hard experience.

Posted by: polynikes at October 19, 2022 03:30 PM (bp6lO)

566 Nood.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 19, 2022 03:30 PM (yHsuS)

567 @Breaking911 · 1h
POTUS: “Let's debunk some myths here. My administration has not stopped or slowed U.S. oil production—quite the opposite.”
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 19, 2022 03:28 PM (yikp0)



You unmitigated lying sack of shit......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 19, 2022 03:30 PM (Zz0t1)

568 And lets not kid anybody. I interned with plenty of MS and a few PhD folks with experience in aerospace and such. Get this ... they all went through Boeing School or such after they go those shiny degrees as well.
Posted by: SG at October 19, 2022 03:28 PM (uucmX)

A lot of SF stories written in the 70s/80s casually mentioned degrees by IBM or other major companies, especially ones with more engineering experience themselves.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2022 03:31 PM (eoQWY)

569 I think claiming Lincoln saved Democracy is a bizarre one; he saved people from bondage by slavery, but democracy? If anything he opposed it by attacking people for voting a way he did not like. I agree with the need to stop slavery but Democracy? No.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 03:30 PM (Ivdso)
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I have to agree. He nullified the re-joining states ability to decide whether to ratify amendments.

Of course, they lost the war, so if they were conditions of the treaty, then it's okay--but it's not "democracy".

Lincoln saved "The Union" (shhh of States).

Posted by: Axeman at October 19, 2022 03:32 PM (krQz2)

570
Am I the only one who thinks vacations to California as an ANTIFA looter would be fun? Seriously, I would pay series money to get dressed up and loot left wing businesses.

Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan MFers


Y'know, back in the 70s there were rumors that the PLO and assorted Pali terror offshoots ran an exclusive vacation service for rich young Eurotrash. They'd pay big bucks to come to Beirut during the civil war and the Palis would set them up in a high rise building with a sniper rifle and let them have an afternoon of fun, shooting shoppers across the Green Line.

An awful thing that should be denounced, but I could understand it if someone on our side were to do something similar.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 19, 2022 03:32 PM (n+4am)

571 Give us a call. Our lines are open.

Posted by: 7-7-77 Committee at October 19, 2022 03:32 PM (4+bFW)

572 Didn't he get killed by one of his followers/administrators?

Posted by: red speck at October 19, 2022 03:28 PM (gS3OW)


IIRC it was renal failure.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 19, 2022 03:32 PM (xhaym)

573 @RyanFournier
Karine Jean-Pierre just said that a BAN on American petroleum products is "on the table."
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Lube hardest hit.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 19, 2022 03:32 PM (yikp0)

574
Bombshell: HHS and other officials were dumping stocks like crazy starting in Jan 2020. They dumped, with inside info on what was going to happen.

https://tinyurl.com/242oybl7

They were dumping what was going to tank, and then buying what was going to go up.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 19, 2022 03:33 PM (Mzdiz)

575 and drew pockets on our ass cheeks with charred sticks just so it looked like we had Levis.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 19, 2022 03:02 PM

You only had one pocket.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 19, 2022 03:33 PM (o0vSu)

576 "Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. "

Hiya Mike.
Posted by: AshevilleRobert
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Robert!
How about an update. How are things?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2022 03:33 PM (/1cnq)

577 I think claiming Lincoln saved Democracy is a bizarre one; he saved people from bondage by slavery, but democracy? If anything he opposed it by attacking people for voting a way he did not like. I agree with the need to stop slavery but Democracy? No.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 19, 2022 03:30 PM (Ivdso)

They attacked him first, the secessionists rightly feared that not going to true war would show the weakness of their coalition.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 19, 2022 03:33 PM (eoQWY)

578 I wonder if you've read any of my dad's papers... He's an experimental design expert.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 19, 2022 03:22 PM (LvTSG)

Hard to say. Experimental design is not the same as what I do. Experimental design is about designing experiments to learn specific information. I use my resources, experience, imagination, and training to design machines for a specific purpose. Then I test them in lab and field conditions, make mods if necessary. Make them manufacturable with current equipment if I can, or specify and purchase specialized equipment if I have to. Material selection is often the hardest compromise, as usually the best is the most expensive, and the market is slanted toward good for the price rather than the best at any price. Unfortunately, that is reality, and unlike leftards, I have to swim with the sharks.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 19, 2022 03:34 PM (QSjkU)

579 I'm thinking every homeless person in SF should be fed wienies and beans and that way we can mitigate the shortage of Ukrainian and Russian fertilizer for our crops in the central valley.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 19, 2022 03:34 PM (z+OQR)

580 At some point, the cops are going to have to turn a blind eye when citizens begin taking justice into their own hands.

Cops can't turn a blind eye - its not in their nature. When Guy A at a bar eats a mug at the hands of Guy B - a Cop is hardwired in his DNA to step in. If you find a Cop that simply looks down and takes another pull off his beer ? You've found a Unicorn.

Problem Two will be basic people. Go back through the archives here. It always comes down to this;

"No, this particular crime did not happen to me. Yet - I don't approve of Victim One's reaction. Hence, I wish to make my opinion known - courtesy of Government".

The idea of Victim A yanking out Criminal A's ballsack just chaps John Q. Public's uninvolved, constantly opinionated ass.

Posted by: SG at October 19, 2022 03:34 PM (uucmX)

581 When do they rename Castro Street to Monkeypox Blvd?

Posted by: wth at October 19, 2022 03:34 PM (v0R5T)

582 I think claiming Lincoln saved Democracy is a bizarre one; he saved people from bondage by slavery
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Not because he cared, he didn't. Nor did he set out to do so. 'The Great Emancipator' is a myth.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2022 03:35 PM (/1cnq)

583 Sherman was a better general than real estate prognosticator. He thought Vallejo would overtake San Francisco as the center of the region someday. I'd let it alone if he said Oakland but Vallejo?

Posted by: East Bay Jay at October 19, 2022 03:36 PM (DePyg)

584 120 We started keeping the door locked and opening it only for customers, but even then, they'll have a woman go to the door, and then hiding individuals rush into the store as soon as the door opens. Our team is terrified. They feel unsafe.

Buy a bat. Crack some skulls. They'll stop.

Put a rumor out on the street that all of The Good Stuff is in an alcove in the back of the store. Have Guido and the boys give them an Old Hickory Wood Shampoo and free Tune Up. About the same price as paying security and their bond premiums, and you get the satisfaction that your are funding the cleaning up of the neighborhood.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 19, 2022 02:30 PM (3hSHB)
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Problem is they may waylay you on your way to your car a week later and beat you to death.

Posted by: Ciampino - best hoodlum is dead hoodlum at October 19, 2022 03:36 PM (qfLjt)

585 It is likely that your schooling was subsidized by tax payers either directly if a state school or indirectly via grants, loans, etc. available to your private college.

Since you asked.

The USI Presidential Scholar program. At the time, it cost every bit of $2000 per semester. It was actually privately endowed. Not that I cared ... I would have went anywhere, public or private. It was that or the Marines.

Ooh ... I was also a National Merit Scholar. But back in those days, it was $1500 or so for your first two semesters, and that was it, unless your folks worked at Ford or such. So I got that much of your money. I took it all.

Posted by: SG at October 19, 2022 03:38 PM (uucmX)

586 I just got a liberal arts degree from a small state school so maybe I don't understand all the sociological implications and economic factors but exactly how Dave Smith supposed to create this mythical "community" when he's spending all his money replacing windows and stolen merchandise ? Please help educate this rube.

Posted by: Stacy0311 at October 19, 2022 03:46 PM (4eKPg)

587 Robert - Dammit. Wanted to chat for a bit, but have 4:00 meeting. Now, I'm off to negotiate the newly-narrowed Merrimon Ave. No sacrifice is too great to accommodate a handful of vociferous bicycle riders.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 19, 2022 03:52 PM (O8Vti)

588 @223. suburban Soros D.A. likes his job. He's using it as a political launch pad. Posted by: kallisto


But he was right there the other day with Fetterman at Nether Providence. And our holistic county prison, lack of juvenile detention and very mean streets of the eastern half say much different.

Posted by: Lola at October 19, 2022 03:57 PM (NIYa7)

589 These people are insane. They really do believe that evil is just miscommunication.

The deserve what they are about to get.

Posted by: Kestrel.987 at October 19, 2022 03:58 PM (DUjDM)

590 As a retired police officer of 33 years experience I can tell you that less law enforcement means more crime. Criminals don't need hugs, pity or social services. Businesses owned by people who are liberals like the commenters are finding out that "hug a thug" does not work and leads to losing their business. But it is Commiefornia after all and they never learn any lessons from their heart string tugging foolishness.

Posted by: I Back the BLue at October 19, 2022 04:24 PM (kPWr2)

591 People are homeless because they do not cooperate well enough with others to work or to live with family and have burned all of their bridges.

Or they are drug addicts and can not cooperate well enough to work or to live with family and have burned all of their bridges.

Or they are mentally ill and their family can't get them to remain in treatment.

It's got nothing to do with a lack of community resources or housing or people being mean to them.

Posted by: Synova at October 19, 2022 04:27 PM (BD/yx)

592 People are criminals because they choose to be.

Posted by: Synova at October 19, 2022 04:27 PM (BD/yx)

593 Conservatives should now be coming to the realization that not even reality is going to get through to these people. It's a religion. Just like a percentage of Christians preferred to be fed to the lions instead of denouncing their faith, these people will never change. This poses a problem for the sane people. What do you do with a bunch of religious lunatics trying to destroy society? We all know, but we're haven't reached the point where it can be said in polite company.

Posted by: DFCtomm at October 19, 2022 04:56 PM (OHy0b)

594 You can either put your criminals in jail, or live in one yourself. there is no third option.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at October 19, 2022 03:29 PM (+DS2f)

This is a statistically proven lie. Certain groups are more likely to commit crime. Now you can argue about the causes but you can't deny the data. This means that you can create communities with more or less crime. You just have to figure out what it takes to do that. Conservatives are terrified of that option and prefer prisons.

Posted by: DFCtomm at October 19, 2022 05:06 PM (OHy0b)

595 Dear dumb fucks - people feel that "crime" is their only option because you've made crime LEGAL at this point.

Posted by: deadrody at October 19, 2022 05:13 PM (kYmXc)

596 This is a statistically proven lie. Certain groups are more likely to commit crime. Now you can argue about the causes but you can't deny the data. This means that you can create communities with more or less crime. You just have to figure out what it takes to do that. Conservatives are terrified of that option and prefer prisons.
Posted by: DFCtomm at October 19, 2022 05:06 PM (OHy0b)

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The fuq ? We're talking about a real place, beset by real problems. Not some imaginary utopia.

You think you have actual answers to the ACTUAL problem in SF, let's hear it. Otherwise, you're completely full of shit.

The simple fact is, you subsidize crime and homelessness, you get MORE.

Posted by: deadrody at October 19, 2022 05:21 PM (kYmXc)

597 "touts its commitment to the environment, global hunger, and other causes"
Then he VOTED FOR IT and my sympathy is zero.

Posted by: GWB at October 19, 2022 05:28 PM (7uSB+)

598 "and then hiding individuals rush into the store as soon as the door opens"
And that's when you open fire.
Oh, wait, this is Californicate.

Posted by: GWB at October 19, 2022 05:30 PM (7uSB+)

599 The fuq ? We're talking about a real place, beset by real problems. Not some imaginary utopia.

You think you have actual answers to the ACTUAL problem in SF, let's hear it. Otherwise, you're completely full of shit.

The simple fact is, you subsidize crime and homelessness, you get MORE.
Posted by: deadrody at October 19, 2022 05:21 PM (kYmXc)

Tell that to the vast majority of Europe before they decided to import all of the Middle East and Africa. There is certainly a third choice. Why don't you just cut to the chase and call me a racist. That is the way this conversation ends.

Posted by: DFCtomm at October 19, 2022 05:37 PM (OHy0b)

600 Eventually, all business will close down in San Francisco. Sadly the locusts will just swarm to the next city and do the same until citizen have enough, defy the DAs and go Death wish on the criminals

Posted by: Xaver Basora at October 19, 2022 05:42 PM (HZCl6)

601 "...we waited for a month+ to get a metal security gate installed (demand for those gates is creating huge delays)."

Their mistake lies in using the gate to keep the looters out. A proper use of the gate would be to isolate the store *after* a crowd of looters enters the store. As the employees leave through their secure exit, they should ask the looters *politely* to put everything back on the shelves and clean the store up before store security returns - in the morning.

Posted by: ObeliskToucher at October 19, 2022 06:01 PM (G9H0C)

602 I don’t blame the owner one bit. Scat Francisco along with every other Democrat hell-hole will never recover and deservedly so. Problem, as Ace points out, is that they’ll demand the rest of us pay trillions to bail them out so they can wash rinse and repeat. As to the homeless and the criminals, many - not all - are there because of their own poor decisions in the past and/or Democrat policies in those places. When I was a brand new Air Force 2nd Lt. a wise old master sergeant gave me some sound advice. He said in a helpful and respectful way something like “Sir, try not to be stupid on purpose.” - in somewhat more colorful language of course! Those thugs in SF could have used some of that guidance I suspect but clearly never got it

Posted by: Agamemnon at October 19, 2022 06:21 PM (fG47N)

603 None of these yahoos have had to run a business and pay for windows, grates, employee turnover because they don’t want to form a community with people who hurt them. If they had to foot the bill, they would have very different beliefs.

I challenge each of them to show us how it’s done. Report back, please, after your breakfast.

Posted by: Piper at October 19, 2022 06:46 PM (0GTCG)

604 LinkedIn appears to have scrubbed it.

Posted by: Allen McNight at October 19, 2022 07:02 PM (UJlc8)

605 When the authorities protect the lawbreakers against the public, this is what you get.

Organized shoplifting rings would stop overnight if a few of them got a face full of 00 buckshot for their trouble. You can't do that in CA, though, because the police will respond to that.

Posted by: Unknownsailor at October 19, 2022 07:17 PM (loHiy)

606 Hayes St used to be a nice area for decades, perfect for a coffee or brunch. Unfortunately, it has been unable to escape the Equity Principle and the Homeless Industrial Complex mafia.

How many robberies, muggings, rapes and murders will it take for SFers to wake up and realize fascism is the answer?

Posted by: Scat at October 19, 2022 07:24 PM (MjFxg)

607 California has a bottomless well of stupid. If they were able to tap it and burn it, California would never run out of heat or electricity.

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Posted by: Chelsea Hooper at October 20, 2022 03:54 AM (mxvKo)

609 We need a libertarian defunding of the police. That is to say let everyone have guns and don't use the police to stop people from defending their property.
Instead what happens in these Dem cities is police are used against the property owners to stop them from defending their property.
You don't need police (they didn't exist in the US till the 1860's), but you do need someone defending property. I think it should be anyone and everyone instead of this terrible socialized system of property defense.

Posted by: DocMerlin at October 20, 2022 11:59 AM (jRh4q)

610 This is a result of socializing property defense. Government is ill-equipped to defend your property and will cop-out of it, whenever it can. Legalize gun ownership and carry and legalize using violence to defend your property.

Posted by: DocMerlin at October 20, 2022 12:02 PM (jRh4q)

611 Dumb f*ck opened the store a year ago. Muh vanity bankruptcy. Next time just light the money on fire, Idiot.

Posted by: Lawrence L at October 20, 2022 10:04 PM (FAuXd)

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