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The Morning Rant
Sacred Liberty
Dave in Fla [Guest Monkey]
No country can be called free which is governed by an absolute power; and it matters not whether it be an absolute royal power of an absolute legislative power, as the consequences will be the same to the people. - Thomas PaineAt the end of the podcast last week, CBD, JJ, and I got into a small philosophical discussion regarding freedom, liberty, and the left's implacable will to attain and exercise power over us. If you will indulge me, I would like to expand on my thoughts from last week rather than bore you yet again with a post filled with numbers and percent signs. Instead, I want to tell you what I believe. I know that many don't agree with me, that is fine. But this is my core belief in America and the principles that it stands for.
The nature of the discussion was after losing the midterms, what does the Left do? One thought was that they just don't care, they have achieved power and will continue to wield it ruthlessly despite popular opposition. Another thought is that they will continue to indoctrinate our children and achieve the goal of absolute power by converting future generation into compliant Marxists.
I have mentioned in the past that I am not a very religious person. While I was raised a Christian in a devout family, I have always had doubts about God. And if the measure of faith is church attendance, I am a very poor Christian indeed. But despite this, I have been a student of history and believe that there is something in the nature of humans that is more than just psychology and learned behavior. It is something that could well be thought of a "God's Grace". There are countless examples of people throughout history who have stood tall against he forces of tyranny and refused to yield their faith and freedom, despite overwhelming pressure and physical torture. In 1980 and 1981, Human Rights activists, Ivan Kovalev and his wife Tatiana Osipova were separately arrested and spent 5 years imprisoned in the Soviet Perm-35 prison camp, along with other political prisoners. Over the years, Ivan and Tatiana were only able to communicate through etching love messages to each other on toothbrushes. Tatiana's first reply to Ivan took over a year to make it back to him.Tusha. I am crazy about you. Hold on there baby. I am here for you. To my one and only husband. Be strong, my darling. I love you and miss you. TushaWhat would make people endure such deprivation over philosophy? Such stubborn refusal to bow to the demands of the state is not that unusual. History is filled with examples of political prisoners who win against their jailors and return to become leaders of their countries. I believe that the founding of this country was nothing short of a Divine Miracle, because the philosophy of our Founders is rooted in a fundamental understanding of the nature of Man, and his relationship to God. The core of Jeffersonian philosophy is that Government belongs to the People, the People do not belong to the Government. It seems like such a simple concept to us now, but in the late 1700s, this was a radical departure from centuries of rule by Divine Right and Feudalism. The most famous line from the Declaration of Independence is: "We hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness." When I read those words, I can not envision a way that the Left can win their quest for power. The deck is stacked against them, and no amount of tyranny, secret police, or indoctrination will allow them to succeed. God has granted to Men the Right to Liberty. That core burning desire for freedom can not be abridged by the tyranny of Men, because it is granted by God. Even a barely religious person such as I can't deny the historical evidence that Man always rises up to throw off the yoke of oppression. As I was considering my core beliefs, I returned to the Declaration of Independence. Many people don't read past the first few paragraphs and miss the enumeration of transgressions against the Colonists that drove them to rebellion. See if any of these resonate with you regarding our current political situation: He has erected a Multitude of new Offices, and sent hither Swarms of Officers to harass our People, and eat out their Substance. (87,000 new armed IRS agents?) He has affected to render the Military independent of a superior to the Civil Power. (The FBI doesn't answer to the Supreme Court?) For quartering large Bodies of Armed Troops among us: For protecting them, by mock Trial, from Punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States. (Fake trials for Russiagate conspirators?) For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent. (Beyond just taxes, mandatory medical procedures?) For depriving us, in many Cases, of the Benefit of Trial by Jury. (How many J6 prisoners are there now? In a district where a fair jury is impossible to find?) He has excited domestic Insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the Inhabitants of our Frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known Rule of Warfare, is an undistinguished Destruction, of all Ages, Sexes and Conditions. (Remind you of Antifa and BLM?) My belief is that the greatest benefit of Trump is that he ripped the masks off and showed to us how our government is really being run. The Deep State lived in the shadows for decades, but their psychotic need to rid themselves of Trump has exposed them to the People. The midterm election is one of many steps forward to take back our country, and exercise our God given Right to Liberty. And I don't think they can stop us.
Comments
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Does this minkey bite?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 20, 2022 11:01 AM (u73oe)
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Called em
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 20, 2022 11:01 AM (u73oe)
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Now to read the rant.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 20, 2022 11:02 AM (u73oe)
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But first...
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 20, 2022 11:02 AM (u73oe)
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hiya
Posted by: JT at October 20, 2022 11:02 AM (T4tVD)
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Cheech!
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at October 20, 2022 11:02 AM (MkuC5)
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Hiya, JT!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 20, 2022 11:02 AM (u73oe)
Posted by: JT at October 20, 2022 11:03 AM (T4tVD)
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So what if they lose the congress/white house?...they still control all the agencies.
Posted by: BignJames at October 20, 2022 11:03 AM (AwYPR)
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Trump made more than a few mistakes - mostly choosing aides - but otherwise he was a very good president. And yes, his best move was tearing all the masks off of our "betters."
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 20, 2022 11:04 AM (VWp7G)
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The nature of the discussion was after losing the midterms, what does the Left do? One thought was that they just don't care, they have achieved power and will continue to wield it ruthlessly despite popular opposition. Another thought is that they will continue to indoctrinate our children and achieve the goal of absolute power by converting future generation into compliant Marxists.
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Those in the administration will push further.
There will be no moderates left (not like there are any now) in elected positions. The state level apparatuses of the Democratic Party's elected positions will be wiped out...again, especially in purple and red states.
All that will be left will be the radicals in safe blue enclaves...again. Did the Democrat Party get less insane after 2010 or more? It's gonna be that...again.
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Those in the administration will push further.
There will be no moderates left (not like there are any now) in elected positions. The state level apparatuses of the Democratic Party's elected positions will be wiped out...again, especially in purple and red states.
All that will be left will be the radicals in safe blue enclaves...again. Did the Democrat Party get less insane after 2010 or more? It's gonna be that...again.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 20, 2022 11:06 AM (LvTSG)
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Sure, monkeys are cute, right until they sit on your shoulder and shit down the neck of your shirt.
Posted by: Leaky Joe at October 20, 2022 11:06 AM (l3SW6)
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McCarthy and McConnell will betray you within minutes of being sworn in.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at October 20, 2022 11:06 AM (5bLiR)
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Good essay, Dave. Inspirational. And I need all the inspiration I can get these days.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 20, 2022 11:06 AM (PTVZy)
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Truss has been girdled
Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2022 11:07 AM (us2H3)
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What do you call a nation ruled by big box retailers, TeeVee programers, social media thought leaders and money lenders?
Posted by: Puddinhead at October 20, 2022 11:07 AM (Hudry)
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Good column.
"The midterm election is one of many steps forward to take back our country, and exercise our God given Right to Liberty.
And I don't think they can stop us."
If you've read my comments in the past, you know I disagree about elections being a step toward anything. But your core premise I do agree with.
That which can't continue won't. Our government is a fucking abomination; it's not only a disgrace to the American legacy, but a stain on the face of humanity. It must be erased, and consigned to history's graveyard, and it will be. It will take a long time before it happens. But I hope to live to see it.
Good column.
"The midterm election is one of many steps forward to take back our country, and exercise our God given Right to Liberty.
And I don't think they can stop us."
If you've read my comments in the past, you know I disagree about elections being a step toward anything. But your core premise I do agree with.
That which can't continue won't. Our government is a fucking abomination; it's not only a disgrace to the American legacy, but a stain on the face of humanity. It must be erased, and consigned to history's graveyard, and it will be. It will take a long time before it happens. But I hope to live to see it.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2022 11:07 AM (oINRc)
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Western Civ is falling down, falling down, falling down.
Western Civ is falling down my dear monkey.
Western Civ is falling down my dear monkey.
Posted by: No Shirt Shylock at October 20, 2022 11:07 AM (PWI4f)
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It is true, though, that monkeys have better morals than the Biden cabal.
Posted by: Leaky Joe at October 20, 2022 11:08 AM (l3SW6)
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McCarthy and McConnell will betray you within minutes of being sworn in.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at October 20, 2022 11:06 AM (5bLiR)
The word you were looking for is "seconds."
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at October 20, 2022 11:06 AM (5bLiR)
The word you were looking for is "seconds."
Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 20, 2022 11:08 AM (7bRMQ)
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10 Trump made more than a few mistakes - mostly choosing aides - but otherwise he was a very good president. And yes, his best move was tearing all the masks off of our "betters."
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He demonstrated that if a President works for the benefit of the people rather than the privileged he will be crucified.
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He demonstrated that if a President works for the benefit of the people rather than the privileged he will be crucified.
Posted by: Puddinhead at October 20, 2022 11:08 AM (Hudry)
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>>>Western Civ is falling down, falling down, falling down.
Western Civ is falling down my dear monkey.
Posted by: No Shirt Shylock
Now I wish I never took the class in college!
Western Civ is falling down my dear monkey.
Posted by: No Shirt Shylock
Now I wish I never took the class in college!
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 20, 2022 11:09 AM (VWp7G)
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The Deep State lived in the shadows for decades, but their psychotic need to rid themselves of Trump has exposed them to the People.
I still think that the key point was the aftermath of 9/11.
You had the worst intelligence failure in the history of the United States, and I'm sure that people in the CIA, FBI, and other intelligence agencies braced themselves for the mass firings for incompetence that would surely follow.
And then no one was fired. No one. This convinced the intelligence agencies that they were bulletproof - that no matter what they did, there would be no consequences.
Thanks, George W. Bush!
I still think that the key point was the aftermath of 9/11.
You had the worst intelligence failure in the history of the United States, and I'm sure that people in the CIA, FBI, and other intelligence agencies braced themselves for the mass firings for incompetence that would surely follow.
And then no one was fired. No one. This convinced the intelligence agencies that they were bulletproof - that no matter what they did, there would be no consequences.
Thanks, George W. Bush!
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2022 11:09 AM (I2/tG)
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Liz Truss is OUT.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2022 11:10 AM (n2g9L)
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>>>He demonstrated that if a President works for the benefit of the people rather than the privileged he will be crucified.
Posted by: Puddinhead
True enough, but I'm glad he did. Yes, there has been misery since, but I think it was - mostly - worth it.
Posted by: Puddinhead
True enough, but I'm glad he did. Yes, there has been misery since, but I think it was - mostly - worth it.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 20, 2022 11:10 AM (VWp7G)
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Well, another fake rally, crafted in Manhattan. This makes four for four this week.
Posted by: Puddinhead at October 20, 2022 11:10 AM (Hudry)
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It is true, though, that monkeys have better morals than the Biden cabal.
Posted by: Leaky Joe at October 20, 2022 11:08 AM (l3SW6)
Monkeys don't fuck baby monkeys. And they throw poo, but they don't make a recent Georgetown grad-monkey wipe it off their butts for them. So that's a couple things, right off the bat.
It is true, though, that monkeys have better morals than the Biden cabal.
Posted by: Leaky Joe at October 20, 2022 11:08 AM (l3SW6)
Monkeys don't fuck baby monkeys. And they throw poo, but they don't make a recent Georgetown grad-monkey wipe it off their butts for them. So that's a couple things, right off the bat.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2022 11:10 AM (oINRc)
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To be honest that quote is from a different Thomas Paine, but I agree with it.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 20, 2022 11:11 AM (lTGtQ)
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Lunch time
Posted by: Skip's phone at October 20, 2022 11:11 AM (aZTZ1)
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28 To be honest that quote is from a different Thomas Paine, but I agree with it.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 20, 2022 11:11 AM (lTGtQ)
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That Thomas Paine moved to France and went all proto-Marxist.
He was better when he was in America.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 20, 2022 11:11 AM (lTGtQ)
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That Thomas Paine moved to France and went all proto-Marxist.
He was better when he was in America.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 20, 2022 11:11 AM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:12 AM (eOEVl)
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Willowed, ironically considering Dave's subject matter...
||Boris Johnson is expected to stand in the contest to replace Liz Truss and believes it is a matter of “national interest”, The Times has been told.
The former prime minister, who only left office six weeks ago, is taking soundings from friends but is said to believe he can turn the Conservative Party around. Several Tory MPs are already suggesting that he should replace Truss, who quit this afternoon after 44 days in office.
The prime minister said a successor would be chosen within a week “to deliver our fiscal plans and maintain our country’s economic stability”. Conservative members will be “consulted”, according to Sir Graham Brady, chairman of the 1922 Committee, which runs Tory leadership contests.||
||Boris Johnson is expected to stand in the contest to replace Liz Truss and believes it is a matter of “national interest”, The Times has been told.
The former prime minister, who only left office six weeks ago, is taking soundings from friends but is said to believe he can turn the Conservative Party around. Several Tory MPs are already suggesting that he should replace Truss, who quit this afternoon after 44 days in office.
The prime minister said a successor would be chosen within a week “to deliver our fiscal plans and maintain our country’s economic stability”. Conservative members will be “consulted”, according to Sir Graham Brady, chairman of the 1922 Committee, which runs Tory leadership contests.||
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 20, 2022 11:12 AM (yikp0)
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I still think that the key point was the aftermath of 9/11.
You had the worst intelligence failure in the history of the United States, and I'm sure that people in the CIA, FBI, and other intelligence agencies braced themselves for the mass firings for incompetence that would surely follow.
And then no one was fired. No one. This convinced the intelligence agencies that they were bulletproof - that no matter what they did, there would be no consequences.
Thanks, George W. Bush!
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2022 11:09 AM (I2/tG)
Maybe, but there were any number of other events before that, which demonstrated how corrupt our so-called intelligence agencies are. Bay of Pigs, The assassinations of the 60s, Watergate, Iran (all of the failures associated with Iran), Iran-Contra, and my personal favorite, Flight 800.
You had the worst intelligence failure in the history of the United States, and I'm sure that people in the CIA, FBI, and other intelligence agencies braced themselves for the mass firings for incompetence that would surely follow.
And then no one was fired. No one. This convinced the intelligence agencies that they were bulletproof - that no matter what they did, there would be no consequences.
Thanks, George W. Bush!
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2022 11:09 AM (I2/tG)
Maybe, but there were any number of other events before that, which demonstrated how corrupt our so-called intelligence agencies are. Bay of Pigs, The assassinations of the 60s, Watergate, Iran (all of the failures associated with Iran), Iran-Contra, and my personal favorite, Flight 800.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 20, 2022 11:12 AM (TGNA8)
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He was better when he was in America.
This is true of many people and things. Pizza, for instance.
This is true of many people and things. Pizza, for instance.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:13 AM (eOEVl)
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A time when our nation believed in God.
I guess the big question is if God still believes in our nation.
I guess the big question is if God still believes in our nation.
Posted by: VIA, I Support Same Sex Locker Rooms, and Mixed Sex Marriage at October 20, 2022 11:14 AM (uLr+K)
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The former prime minister, who only left office six weeks ago, is taking soundings from friends
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Yeah, I bet he is.
Urethral soundings.
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Yeah, I bet he is.
Urethral soundings.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2022 11:14 AM (oINRc)
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The midterm election is one of many steps forward to take back our country, and exercise our God given Right to Liberty.
In the famous end-of-life correspondence between Jefferson and Adams, they agreed on the requirement that the federal government needs to be limited for precisely the reason you talk about: the Citizenry will not stand for tyranny.
Our government has become foreign to us. That is my belief. The Administrative State that Philip Hamburger identified years ago as a mortal threat to liberty has refused to back down. The Deep State that Trump ran against did indeed have "Six ways from Sunday" to plot treason, as Chucky Schumer so rightly said.
When you see what Garland has done, what the FBI does every day, what the embedded leftists do in our schools, our military, our businesses... It's all of a piece, and the battle is a long one ahead. The election is a small part, but its a start.
In the famous end-of-life correspondence between Jefferson and Adams, they agreed on the requirement that the federal government needs to be limited for precisely the reason you talk about: the Citizenry will not stand for tyranny.
Our government has become foreign to us. That is my belief. The Administrative State that Philip Hamburger identified years ago as a mortal threat to liberty has refused to back down. The Deep State that Trump ran against did indeed have "Six ways from Sunday" to plot treason, as Chucky Schumer so rightly said.
When you see what Garland has done, what the FBI does every day, what the embedded leftists do in our schools, our military, our businesses... It's all of a piece, and the battle is a long one ahead. The election is a small part, but its a start.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2022 11:14 AM (4LTpm)
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'And I don't think they can stop us.'
They might if we continue to defer to the brainwashed millions and the people they vote for.
When those representatives try to exercise power outside of the constitution, they are no longer legitimate.
They might if we continue to defer to the brainwashed millions and the people they vote for.
When those representatives try to exercise power outside of the constitution, they are no longer legitimate.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 20, 2022 11:14 AM (a1ycR)
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Sky News, see sock link:
||A new leader is set to be elected next Friday. [...]
Ms Truss will remain as PM until her successor has been chosen.
Who could replace Liz Truss?
Sir Graham said they expect to conclude a leadership election by Friday 28 October with a new PM in place in time for the 31 October fiscal statement.
He said Tory members are expected to be able to vote but the candidates could be whittled down to just one.
A senior Tory source suggested MPs will have to put their nominations in by Monday.||
||A new leader is set to be elected next Friday. [...]
Ms Truss will remain as PM until her successor has been chosen.
Who could replace Liz Truss?
Sir Graham said they expect to conclude a leadership election by Friday 28 October with a new PM in place in time for the 31 October fiscal statement.
He said Tory members are expected to be able to vote but the candidates could be whittled down to just one.
A senior Tory source suggested MPs will have to put their nominations in by Monday.||
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 20, 2022 11:15 AM (yikp0)
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Kevin throwing cold water on Brandon impeachment
this kinda of thinking is exactly what the left depends on
Kevin still scared shitless of MSM
but mainly he's afraid his rommie will cut him off
this kinda of thinking is exactly what the left depends on
Kevin still scared shitless of MSM
but mainly he's afraid his rommie will cut him off
Posted by: REDACTED at October 20, 2022 11:15 AM (us2H3)
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My belief is that the greatest benefit of Trump is that he ripped the masks off and showed to us how our government is really being run. The Deep State lived in the shadows for decades, but their psychotic need to rid themselves of Trump has exposed them to the People. The midterm election is one of many steps forward to take back our country, and exercise our God given Right to Liberty.
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I agree in part. The midterms will be critically important in several localities and states. The states that aren't yet hollowed out, broken, yoked and cowed can work to defend their positions and continue to erect themselves as a bulwark against the foreign lands that were once part of this country.
That is, in my opinion, the hopeful future. Not the reclamation of the US Federal Government - it is beyond repair - but the development of areas that can go their own ways when the inevitable failure of the United States finally manifests. Such an action could trigger that failure - or breathe new life into the carcass and finally finish us off - but strong localities and a healthy dose of nullification may well be a decent defense.
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I agree in part. The midterms will be critically important in several localities and states. The states that aren't yet hollowed out, broken, yoked and cowed can work to defend their positions and continue to erect themselves as a bulwark against the foreign lands that were once part of this country.
That is, in my opinion, the hopeful future. Not the reclamation of the US Federal Government - it is beyond repair - but the development of areas that can go their own ways when the inevitable failure of the United States finally manifests. Such an action could trigger that failure - or breathe new life into the carcass and finally finish us off - but strong localities and a healthy dose of nullification may well be a decent defense.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2022 11:15 AM (b6YLE)
Posted by: humphreyrobot at October 20, 2022 11:15 AM (xGTyt)
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That’s an uplifting message Dave. Thank you.
Posted by: Kratwurst at October 20, 2022 11:15 AM (nIRE6)
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First rule of presidents:
1. Never elect a former CIA director as prez
2. Never elect anyone from Illinois prez
3. Never elect anyone from the Loan Shark State prez
1. Never elect a former CIA director as prez
2. Never elect anyone from Illinois prez
3. Never elect anyone from the Loan Shark State prez
Posted by: Puddinhead at October 20, 2022 11:15 AM (Hudry)
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The former prime minister, who only left office six weeks ago, is taking soundings from friends but is said to believe he can turn the Conservative Party around. Several Tory MPs are already suggesting that he should replace Truss, who quit this afternoon after 44 days in office.
The prime minister said a successor would be chosen within a week “to deliver our fiscal plans and maintain our country’s economic stability”. Conservative members will be “consulted”, according to Sir Graham Brady, chairman of the 1922 Committee, which runs Tory leadership contests.||
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 20, 2022 11:12 AM (yikp0)
The Tories should just say "Fuck It", and draft Nigel Farage or Daniel Hannan as PM. Otherwise they lose to Labour because Labour does Communism better.
The prime minister said a successor would be chosen within a week “to deliver our fiscal plans and maintain our country’s economic stability”. Conservative members will be “consulted”, according to Sir Graham Brady, chairman of the 1922 Committee, which runs Tory leadership contests.||
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 20, 2022 11:12 AM (yikp0)
The Tories should just say "Fuck It", and draft Nigel Farage or Daniel Hannan as PM. Otherwise they lose to Labour because Labour does Communism better.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2022 11:15 AM (n2g9L)
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Our government has become foreign to us.
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DC is not American. It is a hostile foreign occupation government. They must go.
Our government has become foreign to us.
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DC is not American. It is a hostile foreign occupation government. They must go.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2022 11:15 AM (oINRc)
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"While I was raised a Christian in a devout family, I have always had doubts about God."
As someone once said, doubt is not the antithesis of faith; unbelief is.
Thomas doubted, yet was not cast aside by Jesus. He was offered a front-row seat to a Big Reveal, at which point he relented wholly, declaring, "My Lord and my God!"
It always makes me sad, frustrated, a little angry, when people are put off by church because of its attendees. Don't reject a faith because of the missteps or outright stupidity of its alleged adherents. If you are to reject it, reject it because of its claims, doctrine, or worldview.
As someone once said, doubt is not the antithesis of faith; unbelief is.
Thomas doubted, yet was not cast aside by Jesus. He was offered a front-row seat to a Big Reveal, at which point he relented wholly, declaring, "My Lord and my God!"
It always makes me sad, frustrated, a little angry, when people are put off by church because of its attendees. Don't reject a faith because of the missteps or outright stupidity of its alleged adherents. If you are to reject it, reject it because of its claims, doctrine, or worldview.
Posted by: red speck at October 20, 2022 11:16 AM (gS3OW)
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Thomas Paine was a Quaker, and took a lot of heat from his co-religionists for advocating armed rebellion against the Crown.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 20, 2022 11:16 AM (PTVZy)
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A time when our nation believed in God.
I guess the big question is if God still believes in our nation.
Jefferson and Franklin were deists. I believe Washington was as well.
I guess the big question is if God still believes in our nation.
Jefferson and Franklin were deists. I believe Washington was as well.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:17 AM (eOEVl)
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"the philosophy of our Founders is rooted in a fundamental understanding of the nature of Man"
Supported by their admirable knowledge of history.
Supported by their admirable knowledge of history.
Posted by: Please Place The gp In The Bag at October 20, 2022 11:17 AM (24fqN)
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Replace God with Man, Replace God given rights with rights granted by Man. Then rights become fungible.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 20, 2022 11:17 AM (8FjjU)
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DC is not American. It is a hostile foreign occupation government. They must go.
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Its an inbred college campus that caters to insane trust fund babies and those that are angry they didn't get a trust fund. Believe, I have lived there.
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Its an inbred college campus that caters to insane trust fund babies and those that are angry they didn't get a trust fund. Believe, I have lived there.
Posted by: Puddinhead at October 20, 2022 11:17 AM (Hudry)
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The dark night of fascism has landed in America and is here to stay.
Posted by: Tom Wolfe, sorta at October 20, 2022 11:17 AM (cz/kh)
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... Our government has become foreign to us. That is my belief. The Administrative State that Philip Hamburger identified years ago as a mortal threat to liberty has refused to back down. The Deep State that Trump ran against did indeed have "Six ways from Sunday" to plot treason, as Chucky Schumer so rightly said. ...
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2022 11:14 AM (4LTpm)
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You see this manifesting in language, and not just here (though it is said here a lot). "Real America" vs. the other, "Red America" vs. "Blue America," "Coastal" vs "Interior," etc.
The country, at a macro level, is vanishing. We are no longer countrymen.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2022 11:14 AM (4LTpm)
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You see this manifesting in language, and not just here (though it is said here a lot). "Real America" vs. the other, "Red America" vs. "Blue America," "Coastal" vs "Interior," etc.
The country, at a macro level, is vanishing. We are no longer countrymen.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2022 11:17 AM (b6YLE)
Posted by: Please Place The gp In The Bag at October 20, 2022 11:18 AM (24fqN)
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Even a barely religious person such as I can't deny the historical evidence that Man always rises up to throw off the yoke of oppression.
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This is not my reading of the history of mankind, in general. Certainly, some men rise up -- and are usually beaten down -- as the past couple years of the Covidiocy will attest.
I think the founding of America was a miracle, whether Divine or not, but likely an aberration (the confluence of so many courageous and brilliant men in one place at one time, when today we were lucky to apparently find but one in 2016?).
If America is lost, what little is left of the free world will be lost, and I fear its like will never be seen again (which is why we must eventually lay everything on the line to fight for it). Or to paraphrase Sir Edward Grey: The lamps are going out all over Western Civilization, and I fear we shall not see them lit again ... ever.
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This is not my reading of the history of mankind, in general. Certainly, some men rise up -- and are usually beaten down -- as the past couple years of the Covidiocy will attest.
I think the founding of America was a miracle, whether Divine or not, but likely an aberration (the confluence of so many courageous and brilliant men in one place at one time, when today we were lucky to apparently find but one in 2016?).
If America is lost, what little is left of the free world will be lost, and I fear its like will never be seen again (which is why we must eventually lay everything on the line to fight for it). Or to paraphrase Sir Edward Grey: The lamps are going out all over Western Civilization, and I fear we shall not see them lit again ... ever.
Posted by: ShainS -- Now Jabbed & Boosted with the Nuclear War & Hurricane Vaccines at October 20, 2022 11:18 AM (K3TEc)
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51 Replace God with Man, Replace God given rights with rights granted by Man. Then rights become fungible.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 20, 2022 11:17 AM (8FjjU)
We put the "fungi" in fungible!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 20, 2022 11:17 AM (8FjjU)
We put the "fungi" in fungible!
Posted by: Mushroom Men at October 20, 2022 11:18 AM (cz/kh)
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Here are my thoughts on this topic:
The left isn't looking to win the next election or indoctrination the next generation. Rather, they are trying to replace our system of governance to ensure they are always at the top of the hierarchy.
Method doesn't matter - only the outcome.
They're growing inpatient, which is an ominous sign.
The left isn't looking to win the next election or indoctrination the next generation. Rather, they are trying to replace our system of governance to ensure they are always at the top of the hierarchy.
Method doesn't matter - only the outcome.
They're growing inpatient, which is an ominous sign.
Posted by: MJ at October 20, 2022 11:18 AM (zwDuR)
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Does this minkey bite?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 20, 2022 11:01 AM
My minkey does not bite.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 20, 2022 11:01 AM
My minkey does not bite.
Posted by: Inspector J. Clouseau at October 20, 2022 11:19 AM (gYoDm)
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I think Gen Xers. Whom latest polls attribute the greatest conservatism, are starting to feel the "not on my watch" responsibility to preserve, for our children and grandchildren, what was passed on to us. Problem is, the deck has been stacked against us by constructivist public schools, and our progeny want to reject the gift. Answer seems to me to be vouchers and classical (ie- vdh stuff) education.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 20, 2022 11:19 AM (DnG2D)
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mass firings for incompetence
Prior to 9/11, the Minneapolis office of the FBI was bombarding FBI headquarters with desperate pleas to be able to search Zacarias Moussaoui's residence and computer, since it seemed obvious to them that there was something deeply wrong about how Moussaoui was approaching flight training in the aviation school he was attending. All requests for a search were turned down by FBI headquarters.
It was so bad that the Minneapolis office of the FBI became convinced that there was a Al Qaeda mole in the upper reaches of the FBI that was blocking their requests.
No matter. No one was fired. No one was disciplined.
The senior leadership of the FBI took careful notes from this.
Prior to 9/11, the Minneapolis office of the FBI was bombarding FBI headquarters with desperate pleas to be able to search Zacarias Moussaoui's residence and computer, since it seemed obvious to them that there was something deeply wrong about how Moussaoui was approaching flight training in the aviation school he was attending. All requests for a search were turned down by FBI headquarters.
It was so bad that the Minneapolis office of the FBI became convinced that there was a Al Qaeda mole in the upper reaches of the FBI that was blocking their requests.
No matter. No one was fired. No one was disciplined.
The senior leadership of the FBI took careful notes from this.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 20, 2022 11:19 AM (I2/tG)
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Dave on Fla all seems right to me.That we made 200 years before the Leftists started to change the Constitution we have out shown any other country in the 2 centuries. Been kind of fascinated or stuck reading another book on Ckmmand more closely to Stalin this time. They all are a flash then gone if takes a long time for the Soviets less for a 3rd world country who come and go in 10 years
Posted by: Skip's phone at October 20, 2022 11:19 AM (aZTZ1)
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>>It is true, though, that monkeys have better morals than the Biden cabal.
Monkeys, like the jungle, are neutral and comparing them to the vicious, retrograde imbeciles that are running this country is unfair and a calumnious slander.
>>It is true, though, that monkeys have better morals than the Biden cabal.
Monkeys, like the jungle, are neutral and comparing them to the vicious, retrograde imbeciles that are running this country is unfair and a calumnious slander.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 20, 2022 11:19 AM (up/3i)
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I like the optimism. But not to be one of 'those guys' on the blog...the flip side is that nations rise and fall. Many, many Christian nations have gone by the wayside. I do believe the United States was special and was created with the guidance of God. But so was Israel. And that nation was very throughly destroyed and took almost two millennia to be recreated.
So we may be destined to fall. Or we may just be suffering the results of human free will with God's grace removed for whatever reason.
I do believe there's no going back to how it was, barring a great destruction that removes those who have stolen power, things will continue to get worse as we lose more and more people who understand how the country was supposed to work.
So we may be destined to fall. Or we may just be suffering the results of human free will with God's grace removed for whatever reason.
I do believe there's no going back to how it was, barring a great destruction that removes those who have stolen power, things will continue to get worse as we lose more and more people who understand how the country was supposed to work.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 20, 2022 11:19 AM (V6f9+)
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Hi, Dave. Just wanted to say I listened to the podcast this past weekend. It was fantastic, with all three of you having great comments and points.
I truly hope your optimistic outlook is correct. I do think the large majority of people feel that way. I worry about our quisling "leaders" who seem to be too terrified to fight, or are bought and paid for. (The quisling McCarthy said in an interview this week impeachment of anyone in the Biden admin is off the table because Americans don't like impeachment and we need to heal.)
We are hopefully with this election in the process of electing real leaders and fighters to replace the traitors.
I truly hope your optimistic outlook is correct. I do think the large majority of people feel that way. I worry about our quisling "leaders" who seem to be too terrified to fight, or are bought and paid for. (The quisling McCarthy said in an interview this week impeachment of anyone in the Biden admin is off the table because Americans don't like impeachment and we need to heal.)
We are hopefully with this election in the process of electing real leaders and fighters to replace the traitors.
Posted by: Biergood at October 20, 2022 11:20 AM (FQWHA)
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what the actual f*** is going on in the world?
Posted by: phoenixgirl at October 20, 2022 11:20 AM (CqHIp)
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Monkeys, like the jungle, are neutral and comparing them to the vicious, retrograde imbeciles that are running this country is unfair and a calumnious slander.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 20, 2022 11:19 AM (up/3i)
Yes, but it's an armed neutrality. Don't mess with monkeys. Or the jungle.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 20, 2022 11:19 AM (up/3i)
Yes, but it's an armed neutrality. Don't mess with monkeys. Or the jungle.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 20, 2022 11:20 AM (V6f9+)
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Also think it's "Does YOUR monkey bite?" Punchline- that's not my minkey.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 20, 2022 11:20 AM (DnG2D)
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60 Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 20, 2022 11:19 AM (DnG2D)
Gen X was always doomed to have to have coalitions to get anything done thanks to demographics.
We squandered our window on abrogating any pretense of social conservatism when it mattered and fiscal stupidity that is now used against us.
We will have at most two Presidencies.
Gen X was always doomed to have to have coalitions to get anything done thanks to demographics.
We squandered our window on abrogating any pretense of social conservatism when it mattered and fiscal stupidity that is now used against us.
We will have at most two Presidencies.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:20 AM (Lzpvj)
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What do you call a nation ruled by big box retailers, TeeVee programers, social media thought leaders and money lenders?
Posted by: Puddinhead
US, eh
What do you call a nation ruled by big box retailers, TeeVee programers, social media thought leaders and money lenders?
Posted by: Puddinhead
US, eh
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2022 11:20 AM (63Dwl)
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Farage and Hannan are about the only two people in the UK who make any sense, and neither are in the house of commons. Unfortunately, parliamentary rules are different than the US house as to who can be in the PM role.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 20, 2022 11:21 AM (lTGtQ)
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Patera on Appalachia's Homestead posted something that I thought was important. It reads:
"Don't feel sorry for or fear for your kids because the world they are going to grow up in is not what it used to be.......
Every person in all of history has been placed in the time that they were in because of God's sovereign plan....
He knows that your child can handle whatever challenge they face in life. He created them specifically for it..
Rise up to the challenge. Raise Daniels, Davids, Esthers and Peters!"
"Don't feel sorry for or fear for your kids because the world they are going to grow up in is not what it used to be.......
Every person in all of history has been placed in the time that they were in because of God's sovereign plan....
He knows that your child can handle whatever challenge they face in life. He created them specifically for it..
Rise up to the challenge. Raise Daniels, Davids, Esthers and Peters!"
Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at October 20, 2022 11:21 AM (5HBd1)
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There are countless examples of people throughout history who have stood tall against he forces of tyranny and refused to yield their faith and freedom, despite overwhelming pressure and physical torture."
One of my favorite films of all time is "A Man for All Seasons". Sir Thomas More is a man at the top of his society, with authority, fame, and wealth. All he has to do keep all of it is agree with one little thing that the King wants him to agree to. And yet - he knows it is wrong, so he will not relent. He keeps himself blameless, but he will not relent, and in the end his enemies damn themselves by holding a fake trial and executing him on false pretenses. Even knowing that was to be the outcome, he still would not break.
When an old friend asks him to go along with them all "for fellowship's sake'", More (at least in the film script) replies "and at the Last Judgment, when you are sent to heaven for following your conscience, and I am sent to hell for NOT following mine, would you come along with me, for Fellowship's sake?"
One of my favorite films of all time is "A Man for All Seasons". Sir Thomas More is a man at the top of his society, with authority, fame, and wealth. All he has to do keep all of it is agree with one little thing that the King wants him to agree to. And yet - he knows it is wrong, so he will not relent. He keeps himself blameless, but he will not relent, and in the end his enemies damn themselves by holding a fake trial and executing him on false pretenses. Even knowing that was to be the outcome, he still would not break.
When an old friend asks him to go along with them all "for fellowship's sake'", More (at least in the film script) replies "and at the Last Judgment, when you are sent to heaven for following your conscience, and I am sent to hell for NOT following mine, would you come along with me, for Fellowship's sake?"
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 11:22 AM (trdmm)
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Shirtless Darrow is on the warpath, laymen do not understand and I am not sure he does that every time he says "grounds" he is saying fuck you to the judge.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:22 AM (Lzpvj)
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Nor sure if we started as a Devine guidance or the Forefathers had a Devine start so easily followed that
Not sure that explains my opinion
Not sure that explains my opinion
Posted by: Skip's phone at October 20, 2022 11:22 AM (aZTZ1)
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Was it Ronnie who spoke of that shining city on the hill?
Posted by: VIA, I Support Same Sex Locker Rooms, and Mixed Sex Marriage at October 20, 2022 11:23 AM (uLr+K)
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Unfortunately, parliamentary rules are different than the US house as to who can be in the PM role.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 20, 2022 11:21 AM (lTGtQ)
Britain is governed by it's parties, not by its voters, which is the fatal flaw in their system.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 20, 2022 11:21 AM (lTGtQ)
Britain is governed by it's parties, not by its voters, which is the fatal flaw in their system.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 11:23 AM (trdmm)
Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda at October 20, 2022 11:23 AM (oY6Yp)
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It was so bad that the Minneapolis office of the FBI became convinced that there was a Al Qaeda mole in the upper reaches of the FBI that was blocking their requests.
No matter. No one was fired. No one was disciplined.
The senior leadership of the FBI took careful notes from this.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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The Clintons and Bushes banded together because they were protecting each other from the fact that they allowed the Saudis to buy them. The FBI was made to back off due to US dependence on Saudi oil and claims of natsec. It is clear now that a dissident faction of the Saudi royal family at the time paid for 9/11 hijackers to do what they did.
No matter. No one was fired. No one was disciplined.
The senior leadership of the FBI took careful notes from this.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
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The Clintons and Bushes banded together because they were protecting each other from the fact that they allowed the Saudis to buy them. The FBI was made to back off due to US dependence on Saudi oil and claims of natsec. It is clear now that a dissident faction of the Saudi royal family at the time paid for 9/11 hijackers to do what they did.
Posted by: whig at October 20, 2022 11:24 AM (CXr4y)
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I'll preface this by saying I'm not attacking boomers in general, but the political ones in particular.
These people have clutched on to power to ridiculous ages. It's not just demographics. They have remained in office long, long past what is remotely reasonable.
I am fond of pointing out that Joe Biden was elected to the Senate the year the drip coffeemaker was introduced. And he's not even particularly old compared to many of his generation who stubbornly cling to power. It's ridiculous.
I'll preface this by saying I'm not attacking boomers in general, but the political ones in particular.
These people have clutched on to power to ridiculous ages. It's not just demographics. They have remained in office long, long past what is remotely reasonable.
I am fond of pointing out that Joe Biden was elected to the Senate the year the drip coffeemaker was introduced. And he's not even particularly old compared to many of his generation who stubbornly cling to power. It's ridiculous.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2022 11:24 AM (oINRc)
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77 Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 11:23 AM (trdmm)
The other fatal flaw is the administrative state is if anything even more powerful there than here though that is hard to imagine.
In the UK they can outlaw sunshine.
The other fatal flaw is the administrative state is if anything even more powerful there than here though that is hard to imagine.
In the UK they can outlaw sunshine.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:24 AM (Lzpvj)
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The podcast last week was stellar
Posted by: Skip's phone at October 20, 2022 11:24 AM (aZTZ1)
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48 Thomas Paine was a Quaker, and took a lot of heat from his co-religionists for advocating armed rebellion against the Crown.
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Quakers got a lot of people killed in their pursuit of What Would Jesus Do in the 19th century. Karens of today are basically crazy Quakers play acting their Underground Railroad. If not for Quakers self defined diety there would have been no Cain Abel war.
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Quakers got a lot of people killed in their pursuit of What Would Jesus Do in the 19th century. Karens of today are basically crazy Quakers play acting their Underground Railroad. If not for Quakers self defined diety there would have been no Cain Abel war.
Posted by: Puddinhead at October 20, 2022 11:24 AM (Hudry)
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What do you call a nation ruled by big box retailers, TeeVee programers, social media thought leaders and money lenders?
Posted by: Puddinhead
US, eh
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2022 11:20 AM (63Dwl)
Doomed.
Posted by: Puddinhead
US, eh
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 20, 2022 11:20 AM (63Dwl)
Doomed.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 11:24 AM (trdmm)
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The Lettuce has Won!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm-RE95lKJ0
There is a banner saying the lettuce will speak to the nation at 18:00 and the clock says 16:21 (and is running).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm-RE95lKJ0
There is a banner saying the lettuce will speak to the nation at 18:00 and the clock says 16:21 (and is running).
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at October 20, 2022 11:25 AM (6vA7M)
Posted by: Inspector Clouseau at October 20, 2022 11:25 AM (ZGrMX)
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Dave, that was a beautiful rant. And one I whole heartedly agree with. I have forwarded this to some of my non believers in hopes of bringing optimism to them. Thank you
Posted by: Wyoming Lurker at October 20, 2022 11:25 AM (zizFm)
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I am fond of pointing out that Joe Biden was elected to the Senate the year the drip coffeemaker was introduced. And he's not even particularly old compared to many of his generation who stubbornly cling to power. It's ridiculous.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2022 11:24 AM (oINRc)
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In fairness, Biden is technically pre-Boomer, born during the War.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2022 11:24 AM (oINRc)
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In fairness, Biden is technically pre-Boomer, born during the War.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2022 11:25 AM (b6YLE)
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Also think it's "Does YOUR monkey bite?" Punchline- that's not my minkey.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 20, 2022 11:20 AM
But for the punchline to work, he had to have said his dog didn't bite.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 20, 2022 11:20 AM
But for the punchline to work, he had to have said his dog didn't bite.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 20, 2022 11:26 AM (gYoDm)
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80 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2022 11:24 AM (oINRc)
Their political class is venal and rotten to the core. They have convinced themselves the history of mankind revolves around their vanity and we will be well rid of them over the next three decades by natural causes.
Their political class is venal and rotten to the core. They have convinced themselves the history of mankind revolves around their vanity and we will be well rid of them over the next three decades by natural causes.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:26 AM (Lzpvj)
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These people have clutched on to power to ridiculous ages. It's not just demographics. They have remained in office long, long past what is remotely reasonable.
It's the Achilles heel of dictators: there's no good mechanism for making them pass on power.
It's the Achilles heel of dictators: there's no good mechanism for making them pass on power.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:26 AM (eOEVl)
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I hope this election is a start. It will be a semi test of whether we have elections or just performance art.
Posted by: Piper at October 20, 2022 11:26 AM (0GTCG)
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I am fond of pointing out that Joe Biden was elected to the Senate the year the drip coffeemaker was introduced. And he's not even particularly old compared to many of his generation who stubbornly cling to power. It's ridiculous.
Biden was born 1942, so he predates the Boomers.
Biden was born 1942, so he predates the Boomers.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 20, 2022 11:27 AM (ZGrMX)
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I was going to drive up through the Boston Mountains today, head into Missouri for cigs, but the foliage hasn't kicked in. There may be some must see TV later, Fetterman and Retardo on the same stage. Fetterman will use Retardo's visit to prove the brain damaged can hold public office.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 20, 2022 11:27 AM (lz5hY)
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In reference to @85, credit should go to revolver who got it from MoA.
https://tinyurl.com/bdey9pdj
https://tinyurl.com/bdey9pdj
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at October 20, 2022 11:27 AM (6vA7M)
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The country, at a macro level, is vanishing. We are no longer countrymen.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2022 11:17 AM (b6YLE)
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Divisions always existed in our country. The Constitution was a big attempt to paper over regional differences with institutions and requirements for future compromises.
America can handle division and differences. Our institutions were built with exactly that issue in mind. But we cannot handle, and our institutions cannot handle, deliberate Maoist two-faced treason, people who run for office saying "build the dang wall" and then get in, only to start grifting while celebrating the tyranny of some three-letter agency like the IRS sticking it to innocent citizens.
We have to somehow make it profitable for politicians to do the right thing, as Freidman said.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2022 11:17 AM (b6YLE)
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Divisions always existed in our country. The Constitution was a big attempt to paper over regional differences with institutions and requirements for future compromises.
America can handle division and differences. Our institutions were built with exactly that issue in mind. But we cannot handle, and our institutions cannot handle, deliberate Maoist two-faced treason, people who run for office saying "build the dang wall" and then get in, only to start grifting while celebrating the tyranny of some three-letter agency like the IRS sticking it to innocent citizens.
We have to somehow make it profitable for politicians to do the right thing, as Freidman said.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2022 11:27 AM (RWVth)
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88 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2022 11:25 AM (b6YLE)
"The forgotten generation", all the existential angst of the gilded age facing the depression with none of the mirth of the boomers.
"The forgotten generation", all the existential angst of the gilded age facing the depression with none of the mirth of the boomers.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:27 AM (Lzpvj)
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" there's no good mechanism for making them pass on power."
John Moses Browning's mechanism worked well and reliably.
John Moses Browning's mechanism worked well and reliably.
Posted by: VIA, I Support Same Sex Locker Rooms, and Mixed Sex Marriage at October 20, 2022 11:28 AM (uLr+K)
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We're very closely aligned, Dave. I'm a believer in God, but I've only attended church when I was very young (Southern Baptist). My upbringing was Christian, but I have a lot of problems with the New Testament. I'm definitely more of a 1st edition kind of guy.
We also see history and the Declaration the same way. I was just recently going through the document a few weeks ago thinking many of the same things you pointed out above.
The question in my mind, which is less-and-less of a question as things progress, is whether or not the situation can be rectified without open civil war. I don't think it can. 2022 is going to give a lot of Republicans a false sense of hope and security. When 2024 rolls around, they're going to get it full in the face.
We also see history and the Declaration the same way. I was just recently going through the document a few weeks ago thinking many of the same things you pointed out above.
The question in my mind, which is less-and-less of a question as things progress, is whether or not the situation can be rectified without open civil war. I don't think it can. 2022 is going to give a lot of Republicans a false sense of hope and security. When 2024 rolls around, they're going to get it full in the face.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at October 20, 2022 11:28 AM (3sfj0)
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Can't Truss it~!
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 20, 2022 11:28 AM (IyrhE)
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Cool stuff
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 20, 2022 11:28 AM (J2vNu)
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In fairness, Biden is technically pre-Boomer, born during the War.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2022 11:25 AM (b6YLE)
Yeah, huh? Wow. So many of these scum were. Maybe it was too many of the strong and decent among us being deployed around the world and leaving too many of the weak and privileged behind to breed.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2022 11:25 AM (b6YLE)
Yeah, huh? Wow. So many of these scum were. Maybe it was too many of the strong and decent among us being deployed around the world and leaving too many of the weak and privileged behind to breed.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2022 11:29 AM (oINRc)
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America can handle division and differences. Our institutions were built with exactly that issue in mind. But we cannot handle, and our institutions cannot handle, deliberate Maoist two-faced treason, people who run for office saying "build the dang wall" and then get in, only to start grifting while celebrating the tyranny of some three-letter agency like the IRS sticking it to innocent citizens.
Even worse, half the country now seems to think they can just ignore the law and help their friends through jury nullification. That will work until we say "okay, if those are the new rules, we'll play by them too".
Even worse, half the country now seems to think they can just ignore the law and help their friends through jury nullification. That will work until we say "okay, if those are the new rules, we'll play by them too".
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:29 AM (eOEVl)
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I've been thinking about an idea: "No need can ever be a right".
If a need (food, water, shelter) becomes a right, then someone must be on the hook to provide that need. That someone is then by definition either a lord, through noblesse oblige, or a servant. In a liberal society, there must be no lords or servants.
If a need (food, water, shelter) becomes a right, then someone must be on the hook to provide that need. That someone is then by definition either a lord, through noblesse oblige, or a servant. In a liberal society, there must be no lords or servants.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 20, 2022 11:29 AM (6FeV1)
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66 what the actual f*** is going on in the world?
Posted by: phoenixgirl at October 20, 2022 11:20 AM (CqHIp)
Well it's the End of the World as We Know It, But I Feel Fine.
Posted by: phoenixgirl at October 20, 2022 11:20 AM (CqHIp)
Well it's the End of the World as We Know It, But I Feel Fine.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 11:29 AM (trdmm)
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I hope this election is a start. It will be a semi test of whether we have elections or just performance art.
Posted by: Piper at October 20, 2022 11:26 AM (0GTCG)
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In part. It may be a test of whether elections are real, though I'd like to see 3-4 in a row before I'd be confident saying that. If elections are real, the next test - also ongoing - is whether they matter. The last several years have indicated that they do not, not at the national level. The deep state is in charge and elections are irrelevant. That is the premise who's test will be most important, in my opinion.
Posted by: Piper at October 20, 2022 11:26 AM (0GTCG)
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In part. It may be a test of whether elections are real, though I'd like to see 3-4 in a row before I'd be confident saying that. If elections are real, the next test - also ongoing - is whether they matter. The last several years have indicated that they do not, not at the national level. The deep state is in charge and elections are irrelevant. That is the premise who's test will be most important, in my opinion.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2022 11:29 AM (b6YLE)
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Spectacular post…the first I’ve seen likening the grievances in the Declaration to the extra-constitutional abuses we are now enduring from our unaccountable Deep State. Thanks.
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at October 20, 2022 11:29 AM (KWcFo)
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We have to somehow make it profitable for politicians to do the right thing, as Freidman said.
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Strange fruit hanging from lampposts may work? It really has never been tried here at the Federal level.
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Strange fruit hanging from lampposts may work? It really has never been tried here at the Federal level.
Posted by: Puddinhead at October 20, 2022 11:29 AM (Hudry)
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My view is Sundowner did break the impeachment clause with his underhanded dealings with the Chinese. He still to me hasn't done one thing against what the Chinese would want to happen.
If you think one thing I want to know.
If you think one thing I want to know.
Posted by: Skip's phone at October 20, 2022 11:29 AM (aZTZ1)
Posted by: MP Hammer at October 20, 2022 11:30 AM (gYoDm)
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99- um, I think, technically, that makes you jewish.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 20, 2022 11:30 AM (DnG2D)
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Parents upset about this student mural in the school's health center. Seems like a stretch to me. IMHO, painting is unobjectionable:
youtube.com/watch?v=Q4QYM-vJGSE
Better than I can paint.
youtube.com/watch?v=Q4QYM-vJGSE
Better than I can paint.
Posted by: Please Place The gp In The Bag at October 20, 2022 11:30 AM (24fqN)
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102 Jody.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 20, 2022 11:30 AM (lz5hY)
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John Moses Browning's mechanism worked well and reliably.
Posted by: VIA, I Support Same Sex Locker Rooms, and Mixed Sex Marriage at October 20, 2022 11:28 AM (uLr+K)
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A pitch-perfect Jeffersonian response, right there.
Posted by: VIA, I Support Same Sex Locker Rooms, and Mixed Sex Marriage at October 20, 2022 11:28 AM (uLr+K)
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A pitch-perfect Jeffersonian response, right there.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2022 11:30 AM (RWVth)
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"what the actual f*** is going on in the world?"
Same thing that's happened several times before, according to Old Testament.
Same thing that's happened several times before, according to Old Testament.
Posted by: Please Place The gp In The Bag at October 20, 2022 11:31 AM (24fqN)
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If elections are real, the next test - also ongoing - is whether they matter. The last several years have indicated that they do not, not at the national level. The deep state is in charge and elections are irrelevant. That is the premise who's test will be most important, in my opinion.
I will be much more optimistic if we are able to get rid of the Mcs.
I will be much more optimistic if we are able to get rid of the Mcs.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:31 AM (eOEVl)
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Can't Truss dis!
Posted by: MP Hammer at October 20, 2022 11:30 AM (gYoDm)
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Oh, dats good. Dats real good....
Posted by: MP Hammer at October 20, 2022 11:30 AM (gYoDm)
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Oh, dats good. Dats real good....
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2022 11:31 AM (RWVth)
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I don't know about you guys, but this whole librals-who-Superglue-themselves-to-something is starting to appeal to me.
It's like the stocks from colonial days. Leave them there and mock them. Idiots.
It's like the stocks from colonial days. Leave them there and mock them. Idiots.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 20, 2022 11:31 AM (lf83v)
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The midterm election is one of many steps forward to take back our country, and exercise our God given Right to Liberty.
And I don't think they can stop us.
I am totally on board with Dave's preamble and believe many of the same things he does, as regards the declaration and the inherent rights of man. But voting as a solution is where we part ways.
How does changing which wing of the UniParty runs the House prevent Disney from transing our children? From the teachers unions teaching them anal sex in the second grade? From corporations hiring based on race? From our overall failed culture? From the Deep State jailing our side and letting rioters (and their DS compatriots) walk?
The primary right I am focused on these days is the Jeffersonian last resort.
And I don't think they can stop us.
I am totally on board with Dave's preamble and believe many of the same things he does, as regards the declaration and the inherent rights of man. But voting as a solution is where we part ways.
How does changing which wing of the UniParty runs the House prevent Disney from transing our children? From the teachers unions teaching them anal sex in the second grade? From corporations hiring based on race? From our overall failed culture? From the Deep State jailing our side and letting rioters (and their DS compatriots) walk?
The primary right I am focused on these days is the Jeffersonian last resort.
Posted by: Candidus at October 20, 2022 11:31 AM (469KY)
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... America can handle division and differences. Our institutions were built with exactly that issue in mind. But we cannot handle, and our institutions cannot handle, deliberate Maoist two-faced treason, people who run for office saying "build the dang wall" and then get in, only to start grifting while celebrating the tyranny of some three-letter agency like the IRS sticking it to innocent citizens. ...
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2022 11:27 AM (RWVth)
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There must be a common core of shared values. The root premises - individual supremacy, government transparency, rule of law, defined national boundaries, etc. - have to be there or divisions can't be overcome because those divisions are fundamental rather than incidental.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2022 11:27 AM (RWVth)
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There must be a common core of shared values. The root premises - individual supremacy, government transparency, rule of law, defined national boundaries, etc. - have to be there or divisions can't be overcome because those divisions are fundamental rather than incidental.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2022 11:31 AM (b6YLE)
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Farage and Hannan are about the only two people in the UK who make any sense, and neither are in the house of commons. Unfortunately, parliamentary rules are different than the US house as to who can be in the PM role.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 20, 2022 11:21 AM (lTGtQ)
That is not an obstacle in the Parliamentary system. Make one the Party leader, and he can lead the Party from outside the House of Commons. Meanwhile, a backbencher from a safe seat resigns, and the PM runs in his stead in a quick by-election. Happens on occasion when a PM loses his personal seat in a general election.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 20, 2022 11:21 AM (lTGtQ)
That is not an obstacle in the Parliamentary system. Make one the Party leader, and he can lead the Party from outside the House of Commons. Meanwhile, a backbencher from a safe seat resigns, and the PM runs in his stead in a quick by-election. Happens on occasion when a PM loses his personal seat in a general election.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2022 11:31 AM (n2g9L)
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14 Good essay, Dave. Inspirational. And I need all the inspiration I can get these days.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
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Two simple but valuable things we must do.
Register to vote
Vote
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
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Two simple but valuable things we must do.
Register to vote
Vote
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 20, 2022 11:32 AM (z4scr)
Posted by: VIA, I Support Same Sex Locker Rooms, and Mixed Sex Marriage at October 20, 2022 11:32 AM (uLr+K)
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"Leave them there and mock them. Idiots."
Can we throw 'beyond meat' at them?
How about "After meat". Say, about a day after.
Can we throw 'beyond meat' at them?
How about "After meat". Say, about a day after.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:33 AM (eOEVl)
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If a need (food, water, shelter) becomes a right, then someone must be on the hook to provide that need. That someone is then by definition either a lord, through noblesse oblige, or a servant. In a liberal society, there must be no lords or servants.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 20, 2022 11:29 AM (6FeV1)
everyone seems to have forgotten (because it was never taught in our ridiculous "education" system) that in the 20's, 30's and 40's there was a huge debate abput so-called "Positive Rights" and "Negative Rights". The marxists/early communists said the Constitution was Bad because it only contained "negative rights" - things that the government may NOT do to you. They wanted a Bill of Positive Rights, listing those things that the Government *has* to do for you; combined with totalitarian power to provide the means for Government to do all of these things. For those paying attention, Obama resurrected this idea while he was in ffice and pretended he was the one who thought of it.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 20, 2022 11:29 AM (6FeV1)
everyone seems to have forgotten (because it was never taught in our ridiculous "education" system) that in the 20's, 30's and 40's there was a huge debate abput so-called "Positive Rights" and "Negative Rights". The marxists/early communists said the Constitution was Bad because it only contained "negative rights" - things that the government may NOT do to you. They wanted a Bill of Positive Rights, listing those things that the Government *has* to do for you; combined with totalitarian power to provide the means for Government to do all of these things. For those paying attention, Obama resurrected this idea while he was in ffice and pretended he was the one who thought of it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 11:33 AM (trdmm)
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I will be much more optimistic if we are able to get rid of the Mcs.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:31 AM (eOEVl)
No Irish?
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:31 AM (eOEVl)
No Irish?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 20, 2022 11:33 AM (6FeV1)
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When I read those words, I can not envision a way that the Left can win their quest for power.
Freedom is historically rare.
The Roman Republic to the American Republic is a long, long time.
And that Roman Republic had some pretty serious issues even before it killed itself...
Freedom is historically rare.
The Roman Republic to the American Republic is a long, long time.
And that Roman Republic had some pretty serious issues even before it killed itself...
Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2022 11:34 AM (ESjRY)
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I've been thinking about an idea: "No need can ever be a right".
If a need (food, water, shelter) becomes a right, then someone must be on the hook to provide that need. That someone is then by definition either a lord, through noblesse oblige, or a servant. In a liberal society, there must be no lords or servants.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 20, 2022 11:29 AM
The only right connected with needs would seem to be the right not to have government interfere with your acquiring them (provided you aren't violating another's rights in the process). My $0.02.
If a need (food, water, shelter) becomes a right, then someone must be on the hook to provide that need. That someone is then by definition either a lord, through noblesse oblige, or a servant. In a liberal society, there must be no lords or servants.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 20, 2022 11:29 AM
The only right connected with needs would seem to be the right not to have government interfere with your acquiring them (provided you aren't violating another's rights in the process). My $0.02.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 20, 2022 11:34 AM (gYoDm)
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I certainly hope Dave is right, but I fear that the minority of citizens who understand and appreciate Natural Rights is now too small to make much of a difference.
Idiocracy uber alles is what I fear, but I can't help but hope for a restoration of the Constitution--somehow.
Idiocracy uber alles is what I fear, but I can't help but hope for a restoration of the Constitution--somehow.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at October 20, 2022 11:34 AM (sWM8x)
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126 I will be much more optimistic if we are able to get rid of the Mcs.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:31 AM (eOEVl)
I agree.. They both need to go but they won't
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:31 AM (eOEVl)
I agree.. They both need to go but they won't
Posted by: It's me donna at October 20, 2022 11:35 AM (bs+z0)
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125 Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 11:33 AM (trdmm)
Obama and Buttklieg are both serious red diaper babies....
I think of the two presidencies Gen X gets one will be a Reagan baby and the other a red diaper baby.
Obama and Buttklieg are both serious red diaper babies....
I think of the two presidencies Gen X gets one will be a Reagan baby and the other a red diaper baby.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:35 AM (Lzpvj)
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>>>"what the actual f*** is going on in the world?"
The world is collapsing, because everyone lost their damned minds. We cannot have polite discussions with leftists, we cannot have a cordial debate. We cannot coexist with these people because they literally want us dead.
And it's not just here, but it is in nearly every country in the world.
The world is collapsing, because everyone lost their damned minds. We cannot have polite discussions with leftists, we cannot have a cordial debate. We cannot coexist with these people because they literally want us dead.
And it's not just here, but it is in nearly every country in the world.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 20, 2022 11:35 AM (VWp7G)
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Looking at the history of the world, it doesn't seem like every culture values freedom as much as the culture that founded this country. And the demographics of this country have changed so much, I'm not sure the majority will ever value freedom as much as it did in days gone by.
Posted by: brak at October 20, 2022 11:35 AM (j5Tg0)
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I'm have a liberal type conflict . The electric company is cutting down a lot of the beautiful canopy of trees and plants that border the back of my subdivision but which is also the easement for the electric lines . I'll get over it though because I like my power to stay on and no fires more than some of that flora.
Posted by: polynikes at October 20, 2022 11:35 AM (pf40y)
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One random thought from this morning: Twitter and Facebook and Instagram choosing the word "Follower" to describe their audiences was purposeful conditioning.
Posted by: Candidus at October 20, 2022 11:35 AM (469KY)
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125 Our electorate is so poorly educated, most folx don't even know what 'rights' mean.
Posted by: Please Place The gp In The Bag at October 20, 2022 11:35 AM (24fqN)
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Can't Truss dis!
Posted by: MP Hammer at October 20, 2022 11:30 AM (gYoDm)
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Oh, dats good. Dats real good....
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2022 11:31 AM
Sometimes the gags just write themselves.
Posted by: MP Hammer at October 20, 2022 11:30 AM (gYoDm)
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Oh, dats good. Dats real good....
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2022 11:31 AM
Sometimes the gags just write themselves.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 20, 2022 11:36 AM (gYoDm)
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That is the premise who's test will be most important, in my opinion.
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Yes, and it's been tested, and elections are irrelevant.
The direct fraud at the polls is symptomatic of and secondary to the monstrous, overarching fraud of the system itself.
As I always say: the problem is not that the government is corrupt. The problem is that corruption is the government.
The federal government can't be changed. It can only be extirpated, root and branch.
That is the premise who's test will be most important, in my opinion.
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Yes, and it's been tested, and elections are irrelevant.
The direct fraud at the polls is symptomatic of and secondary to the monstrous, overarching fraud of the system itself.
As I always say: the problem is not that the government is corrupt. The problem is that corruption is the government.
The federal government can't be changed. It can only be extirpated, root and branch.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2022 11:36 AM (oINRc)
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>>> I will be much more optimistic if we are able to get rid of the Mcs.
Posted by: Archimedes
Why do you hate the Irish? It's the potato breath, isn't it?
Posted by: Archimedes
Why do you hate the Irish? It's the potato breath, isn't it?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 20, 2022 11:36 AM (VWp7G)
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The greatest constitution of Positive Rights was the Constitution of the Soviet Union, a wonderful looking document. All citizens of the USSR were given a Right to housing, a Right to medical care, a Right to a job, a right to income for life. But the Soviet Govm't granted itself the power to provide these things by *any* means necessary, which included eliminating several million kulaks and sending more millions out to Siberia if they caused trouble. That is always how Positive Rights play out in the real world.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 11:36 AM (trdmm)
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Even worse, half the country now seems to think they can just ignore the law and help their friends through jury nullification. That will work until we say "okay, if those are the new rules, we'll play by them too".
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:29 AM (eOEVl)
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What's left to Americans who lose faith even in justice? That's so basic.
This is why I think impeaching Biden is a bad idea. It misses the real target completely. If we focus on Garland, and getting rid of about three quarters of the DOJ leadership (pick your own number here, I'll agree with practically every large number), the Biden problem will take care of itself.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:29 AM (eOEVl)
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What's left to Americans who lose faith even in justice? That's so basic.
This is why I think impeaching Biden is a bad idea. It misses the real target completely. If we focus on Garland, and getting rid of about three quarters of the DOJ leadership (pick your own number here, I'll agree with practically every large number), the Biden problem will take care of itself.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2022 11:36 AM (RWVth)
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And just so we understand where we are right now
1) The left stole the last presidential election and has sort of admitted to it solely to rub it in our faces
2) The government is mandating poison injections for children
3) We have peaceful protesters locked away in black sites
4) The government openly funds the left using our tax dollars.
1) The left stole the last presidential election and has sort of admitted to it solely to rub it in our faces
2) The government is mandating poison injections for children
3) We have peaceful protesters locked away in black sites
4) The government openly funds the left using our tax dollars.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2022 11:36 AM (ESjRY)
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Lol...DU is talking about this topic, too!
What will happen to me if Democracy goes away? This was the question on Nicole's Deadline tonight. I always vote for democrats and particularly women and poc. Because they deserve more representation.
Native woman in OK - what will happen here will be closing reservations. They will post bounties for us if found off tribal land.
There will be an massive uprising I will NEVER accept fascism. NEVER.
It doesn't matter until it matters. I lived in China for years. Like you say, on the surface people go about their daily lives and find a way to adapt to almost anything...I left the US permanently in 2003 and am glad I did. As a trans person I can't imagine ever trying to live there again.
What will happen to me if Democracy goes away? This was the question on Nicole's Deadline tonight. I always vote for democrats and particularly women and poc. Because they deserve more representation.
Native woman in OK - what will happen here will be closing reservations. They will post bounties for us if found off tribal land.
There will be an massive uprising I will NEVER accept fascism. NEVER.
It doesn't matter until it matters. I lived in China for years. Like you say, on the surface people go about their daily lives and find a way to adapt to almost anything...I left the US permanently in 2003 and am glad I did. As a trans person I can't imagine ever trying to live there again.
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at October 20, 2022 11:36 AM (5FDB4)
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I guess my concern is not the midterms. It is WHAT WILL THE GOP do when they hold majorities in the Senate and House?
Biden is so demented and his cabal of handlers so committed to the leftist progressive movement, any good bills passed will likely be vetoed and we know the Dems will stick together. Nothing will change.
The GOP will not be able to get any meaningful legislation passed and then they will be blamed for the recession.
I believe the Dems are setting the GOP up for failure in the next two Years and then the fun really starts.
Biden is so demented and his cabal of handlers so committed to the leftist progressive movement, any good bills passed will likely be vetoed and we know the Dems will stick together. Nothing will change.
The GOP will not be able to get any meaningful legislation passed and then they will be blamed for the recession.
I believe the Dems are setting the GOP up for failure in the next two Years and then the fun really starts.
Posted by: Czech Chick at October 20, 2022 11:36 AM (haWye)
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There must be a common core of shared values. The root premises - individual supremacy, government transparency, rule of law, defined national boundaries, etc. - have to be there or divisions can't be overcome because those divisions are fundamental rather than incidental.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2022 11:31 AM (b6YLE)
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That's what makes an American.
Every day the communists expose themselves to the general public. We will take back America. We will put the communists in their place.
There must be a common core of shared values. The root premises - individual supremacy, government transparency, rule of law, defined national boundaries, etc. - have to be there or divisions can't be overcome because those divisions are fundamental rather than incidental.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2022 11:31 AM (b6YLE)
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That's what makes an American.
Every day the communists expose themselves to the general public. We will take back America. We will put the communists in their place.
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 20, 2022 11:36 AM (z4scr)
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Posted by: polynikes at October 20, 2022 11:35 AM (pf40y)
I have saddle shaped live oaks in my backyard for the same reason. Doesn't look too pretty, but keeps the lights on during storms.
I have saddle shaped live oaks in my backyard for the same reason. Doesn't look too pretty, but keeps the lights on during storms.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 20, 2022 11:36 AM (UuD2k)
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Marxists Seminaries have dumbed down the population
Posted by: Skip's phone at October 20, 2022 11:37 AM (aZTZ1)
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@9 So what if they lose the congress/white house?...they still control all the agencies.
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Congress can immediately bring *any* agency to heel if Congress feels motivated to do so. Just zero out that agency's budget, and all problems immediately disappear. The problem is that Congress isn't willing to do that, and the agencies know it.
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Congress can immediately bring *any* agency to heel if Congress feels motivated to do so. Just zero out that agency's budget, and all problems immediately disappear. The problem is that Congress isn't willing to do that, and the agencies know it.
Posted by: junior at October 20, 2022 11:37 AM (qm1fz)
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Things went a little upside down when "Provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare" went upside down.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 20, 2022 11:37 AM (lz5hY)
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Postive Rights require Slaves. Negative Rights do not.
Posted by: Puddinhead at October 20, 2022 11:37 AM (Hudry)
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Thank you, Dave in Fla.
If there is a better Prayer For America than what you have written, I've not seen it.
Amen and amen!
Thank you.
If there is a better Prayer For America than what you have written, I've not seen it.
Amen and amen!
Thank you.
Posted by: democrats, Kidnapping, Raping or Mutilating the Children They Cannot Kill Since 1973 at October 20, 2022 11:37 AM (jV+aN)
Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda at October 20, 2022 11:38 AM (oY6Yp)
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In my understanding, throwing off the yoke of tyranny is exceedingly rare. Basically only England and by extension America have ever really pulled it off, and neither one all that well. Tyranny is the natural state of mankind, and yet benevolence itself is almost the enemy of Liberty, too. Liberty is weird. Liberty is counterintuitive. Liberty is messy.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 20, 2022 11:38 AM (6FeV1)
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Hope you are right Dave but I think we are well past voting our way out of what the left has foisted on our country.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 20, 2022 11:38 AM (u4CEu)
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I have mentioned in the past that I am not a very religious person. While I was raised a Christian in a devout family, I have always had doubts about God.
You are a brave and honest man to state this openly, and I in no way intend to sway your thoughts in any direction.
But if there is no God, there is no immutable source of truth or virtue, and any attempt to persuade anyone of truth or virtue is fleeting at best.
My views hold no authority, hence they are merely musings that hold as much meaning as that of a TikTok transgender. Persuasion may be accomplished by intellect, reason, gunpoint or bribe, but its adoption is not whole-hearted and loyal.
If there be no Lord, we are all gods until ourselves and the only goodness that may be appealed to is vanity.
You are a brave and honest man to state this openly, and I in no way intend to sway your thoughts in any direction.
But if there is no God, there is no immutable source of truth or virtue, and any attempt to persuade anyone of truth or virtue is fleeting at best.
My views hold no authority, hence they are merely musings that hold as much meaning as that of a TikTok transgender. Persuasion may be accomplished by intellect, reason, gunpoint or bribe, but its adoption is not whole-hearted and loyal.
If there be no Lord, we are all gods until ourselves and the only goodness that may be appealed to is vanity.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 20, 2022 11:38 AM (xLqhd)
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133 Looking at the history of the world, it doesn't seem like every culture values freedom as much as the culture that founded this country. And the demographics of this country have changed so much, I'm not sure the majority will ever value freedom as much as it did in days gone by.
Posted by: brak at October 20, 2022 11:35 AM (j5Tg0)
Arguably the early Athenians did, as did the early Republic-era Romans. But both of those societies collapsed into tyranny, and it's hard to say that we will take a different path.
Posted by: brak at October 20, 2022 11:35 AM (j5Tg0)
Arguably the early Athenians did, as did the early Republic-era Romans. But both of those societies collapsed into tyranny, and it's hard to say that we will take a different path.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 11:38 AM (trdmm)
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143 Native woman in OK - what will happen here will be closing reservations. They will post bounties for us if found off tribal land.
There will be an massive uprising I will NEVER accept fascism. NEVER.
It doesn't matter until it matters. I lived in China for years. Like you say, on the surface people go about their daily lives and find a way to adapt to almost anything...I left the US permanently in 2003 and am glad I did. As a trans person I can't imagine ever trying to live there again.
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at October 20, 2022 11:36 AM (5FDB4)
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Bounties? These people are insane. More of these people should be like the last commenter. Leave and never come back.
There will be an massive uprising I will NEVER accept fascism. NEVER.
It doesn't matter until it matters. I lived in China for years. Like you say, on the surface people go about their daily lives and find a way to adapt to almost anything...I left the US permanently in 2003 and am glad I did. As a trans person I can't imagine ever trying to live there again.
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at October 20, 2022 11:36 AM (5FDB4)
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Bounties? These people are insane. More of these people should be like the last commenter. Leave and never come back.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 20, 2022 11:39 AM (LvTSG)
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Rumor is "King" Charles didn't like Truss
Posted by: It's me donna at October 20, 2022 11:39 AM (bs+z0)
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We cannot have polite discussions with leftists, we cannot have a cordial debate. We cannot coexist with these people because they literally want us dead.
We have completely different views of the world. The right wants the America of 1986 or maybe 1956, the left wants the France of 1786...after some "fun" with the France of 1793 of course.
We have completely different views of the world. The right wants the America of 1986 or maybe 1956, the left wants the France of 1786...after some "fun" with the France of 1793 of course.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2022 11:39 AM (ESjRY)
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143 Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at October 20, 2022 11:36 AM (5FDB4)
The tranny in China must have been very entertaining for them.
The tranny in China must have been very entertaining for them.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:39 AM (Lzpvj)
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"I left the US permanently in 2003 and am glad I did. As a trans person I can't imagine ever trying to live there again."
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at October 20, 2022 11:36 AM
Well..bye.
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at October 20, 2022 11:36 AM
Well..bye.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 20, 2022 11:39 AM (gYoDm)
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Republicans got plenty of their own that need to be thrown out of office.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at October 20, 2022 11:39 AM (yYBo3)
Posted by: Abraham Lincoln at October 20, 2022 11:40 AM (VTu1l)
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And it's not just here, but it is in nearly every country in the world.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 20, 2022 11:35 AM (VWp7G)
I've been calling it the Great Lobotomy. It's real.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 20, 2022 11:35 AM (VWp7G)
I've been calling it the Great Lobotomy. It's real.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 20, 2022 11:40 AM (6FeV1)
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161 "I left the US permanently in 2003 and am glad I did. As a trans person I can't imagine ever trying to live there again."
May I suggest Iran....
May I suggest Iran....
Posted by: It's me donna at October 20, 2022 11:40 AM (bs+z0)
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"The greatest constitution of Positive Rights was the Constitution of the Soviet Union,"
Universal Declaration of Human Rights is up there: "Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services"
Etc.
Universal Declaration of Human Rights is up there: "Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services"
Etc.
Posted by: Please Place The gp In The Bag at October 20, 2022 11:40 AM (24fqN)
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And when you left in 2003, the tranny population in the US dropped 25%
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 20, 2022 11:40 AM (8FjjU)
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"I left the US permanently in 2003 and am glad I did. As a trans person I can't imagine ever trying to live there again. "
Perhaps they could meet with friends in Iran for drinks.
Perhaps they could meet with friends in Iran for drinks.
Posted by: VIA, I Support Same Sex Locker Rooms, and Mixed Sex Marriage at October 20, 2022 11:40 AM (uLr+K)
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The problem is that Congress isn't willing to do that, and the agencies know it.
Posted by: junior
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It's looking like 55 or better. Looking more like McCarthy my be on his way out. That's the key to the purse strings.
Posted by: junior
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It's looking like 55 or better. Looking more like McCarthy my be on his way out. That's the key to the purse strings.
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 20, 2022 11:41 AM (z4scr)
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We need more poo flinging monkeys in DC
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 20, 2022 11:41 AM (8FjjU)
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The tranny in China must have been very entertaining for them.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:39 AM (Lzpvj)
Prolly not in China...Bangkok maybe.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:39 AM (Lzpvj)
Prolly not in China...Bangkok maybe.
Posted by: BignJames at October 20, 2022 11:41 AM (AwYPR)
Posted by: Captain Haiku at October 20, 2022 11:41 AM (SIAnw)
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While I was raised a Christian in a devout family, I have always had doubts about God.
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There is nothing incongruous about being a Christian and having doubts and questions. If you have absolutely none, you haven't given religion any proper thought.
What helped me more than anything else was reading Aquinas and Aristotle, and I thank Edward Feser for introducing me to this subject. I'm still not well versed in it. But the existence of God can be understood rationally (as much as it is possible for a human being to understand.) In fact, I don't see how you can even begin to try to understand unless you approach God rationally, asking question after question after question after question. At some point, you will have to reach a beginning of all things, the existence of God. It is logically impossible for it to be any other way.
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There is nothing incongruous about being a Christian and having doubts and questions. If you have absolutely none, you haven't given religion any proper thought.
What helped me more than anything else was reading Aquinas and Aristotle, and I thank Edward Feser for introducing me to this subject. I'm still not well versed in it. But the existence of God can be understood rationally (as much as it is possible for a human being to understand.) In fact, I don't see how you can even begin to try to understand unless you approach God rationally, asking question after question after question after question. At some point, you will have to reach a beginning of all things, the existence of God. It is logically impossible for it to be any other way.
Posted by: Colonel Travis at October 20, 2022 11:42 AM (RG7Wy)
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Prolly not in China...Bangkok maybe.
Posted by: BignJames at October 20, 2022 11:41 AM (AwYPR)
Someone told it the place was hoaching with Tranhs.
Posted by: BignJames at October 20, 2022 11:41 AM (AwYPR)
Someone told it the place was hoaching with Tranhs.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 20, 2022 11:42 AM (6FeV1)
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171 Posted by: BignJames at October 20, 2022 11:41 AM (AwYPR)
I suspect he was one of their "English teachers."
The Chinese I helped in college had very interesting ideas of America fostered by the lunatics the Chinese government hired to instruct them.
I suspect he was one of their "English teachers."
The Chinese I helped in college had very interesting ideas of America fostered by the lunatics the Chinese government hired to instruct them.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:42 AM (Lzpvj)
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The interesting thing is that the politicians have always been corrupt and wanting power. The difference was that they believed in America. They gave some benefits to the folks that elected them, so they could stay in power. Those in power now can't be bothered. They give benefits to the bureaucracy. And they don't have any ties to the state that elected them.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at October 20, 2022 11:42 AM (5HBd1)
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... What will happen to me if Democracy goes away? This was the question on Nicole's Deadline tonight. I always vote for democrats and particularly women and poc. Because they deserve more representation. ...
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at October 20, 2022 11:36 AM (5FDB4)
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This DU poster is either a troll or a perfect exemplar of what's wrong with the Left. I am not sure which, because they are beyond parody.
"I vote for women and POCs because they deserve more representation." Dafuq? Policy doesn't matter, nor does efficacy, nor does intelligence, nor does morality, nor do ideas. Just that precious superficial representation.
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at October 20, 2022 11:36 AM (5FDB4)
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This DU poster is either a troll or a perfect exemplar of what's wrong with the Left. I am not sure which, because they are beyond parody.
"I vote for women and POCs because they deserve more representation." Dafuq? Policy doesn't matter, nor does efficacy, nor does intelligence, nor does morality, nor do ideas. Just that precious superficial representation.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2022 11:43 AM (b6YLE)
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I was hoping after the Queen's funeral, we'd be done with boring British news for a while.
Posted by: Please Place The gp In The Bag at October 20, 2022 11:43 AM (24fqN)
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I believe the Dems are setting the GOP up for failure in the next two Years and then the fun really starts.
Posted by: Czech Chick
I agree, but what else can they do? I'm optimistic that people will remember just how badly they screwed things up and avoid voting for them. There is precedent in what happened to them after James Earl Carter.
Posted by: Czech Chick
I agree, but what else can they do? I'm optimistic that people will remember just how badly they screwed things up and avoid voting for them. There is precedent in what happened to them after James Earl Carter.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:43 AM (eOEVl)
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The uniparty took over both parties, the bureaucracies, and most political interest groups.
This can be undone, but it will take the average American LIV actively opposing them. And...I don't think that's sustainable.
This can be undone, but it will take the average American LIV actively opposing them. And...I don't think that's sustainable.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2022 11:43 AM (ESjRY)
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The question in my mind, which is less-and-less of a question as things progress, is whether or not the situation can be rectified without open civil war. I don't think it can. 2022 is going to give a lot of Republicans a false sense of hope and security. When 2024 rolls around, they're going to get it full in the face.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at October 20, 2022 11:28 AM (3sfj0)
I think the most significant impact (and the greatest wild card) is not that conservative voters will get a false sense of security; rather the Left is going to panic and go ballistic, and we can only wonder how harshly they will lash out. I still do not believe an actual shooting civil war will start, but if it does, THEY will be the ones who start it.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at October 20, 2022 11:28 AM (3sfj0)
I think the most significant impact (and the greatest wild card) is not that conservative voters will get a false sense of security; rather the Left is going to panic and go ballistic, and we can only wonder how harshly they will lash out. I still do not believe an actual shooting civil war will start, but if it does, THEY will be the ones who start it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 11:43 AM (trdmm)
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I agree, but what else can they do? I'm optimistic that people will remember just how badly they screwed things up and avoid voting for them. There is precedent in what happened to them after James Earl Carter.
It will be critical that the GOP be seen to do everything they can, and if the Dems block it, well, people will know who to blame. That's why the Mcs have to go.
It will be critical that the GOP be seen to do everything they can, and if the Dems block it, well, people will know who to blame. That's why the Mcs have to go.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:44 AM (eOEVl)
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"I vote for women and POCs because they deserve more representation." Dafuq? Policy doesn't matter, nor does efficacy, nor does intelligence, nor does morality, nor do ideas. Just that precious superficial representation.
You forgot the other half of the game. Herschel Walker doesn't count as black. Lauren Bobert doesn't count as a woman.
Why? Because they aren't leftists.
You forgot the other half of the game. Herschel Walker doesn't count as black. Lauren Bobert doesn't count as a woman.
Why? Because they aren't leftists.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2022 11:44 AM (ESjRY)
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Dave, JJ, and CBD.
I really appreciate what you guys bring to these pages for analysis and comment.
Thank you!
I really appreciate what you guys bring to these pages for analysis and comment.
Thank you!
Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2022 11:44 AM (anj39)
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McCarthy just said that the republicants will not impeach or really investigate any of the deep state.
So we got that going for us.
So we got that going for us.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 20, 2022 11:45 AM (u4CEu)
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I am just glad John McCain was gracious enough to pause his funeral for the queen.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 20, 2022 11:45 AM (8FjjU)
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178 I was hoping after the Queen's funeral, we'd be done with boring British news for a while.
i thought we were done with boring british news once the chunnel was complete.
i thought we were done with boring british news once the chunnel was complete.
Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda at October 20, 2022 11:45 AM (oY6Yp)
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153 In my understanding, throwing off the yoke of tyranny is exceedingly rare. Basically only England and by extension America have ever really pulled it off, and neither one all that well. Tyranny is the natural state of mankind, and yet benevolence itself is almost the enemy of Liberty, too. Liberty is weird. Liberty is counterintuitive. Liberty is messy.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
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For liberty to work, you have to have an amenable society to support it. The Framers were careful to distinguish between ordered liberty as they called it and libertinism. That is why even though many of them were more men of reason rather than faith, they saw the need for faith to bind communities together with common objectives.
So what is key is that society enforces most of the day to day living rules such as not being a worthless bum rather than government getting involved in a major role. Government acted mainly as a conduit for aiding society rather than forming it and local governments did almost all the heavy lifting.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
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For liberty to work, you have to have an amenable society to support it. The Framers were careful to distinguish between ordered liberty as they called it and libertinism. That is why even though many of them were more men of reason rather than faith, they saw the need for faith to bind communities together with common objectives.
So what is key is that society enforces most of the day to day living rules such as not being a worthless bum rather than government getting involved in a major role. Government acted mainly as a conduit for aiding society rather than forming it and local governments did almost all the heavy lifting.
Posted by: whig at October 20, 2022 11:45 AM (CXr4y)
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... It doesn't matter until it matters. I lived in China for years. Like you say, on the surface people go about their daily lives and find a way to adapt to almost anything...I left the US permanently in 2003 and am glad I did. As a trans person I can't imagine ever trying to live there again.
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at October 20, 2022 11:36 AM (5FDB4)
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I am legitimately confused. This person seems to be making the point that misery and privation can be normalized, so it doesn't matter. Do I have that right or am I missing the point?
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at October 20, 2022 11:36 AM (5FDB4)
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I am legitimately confused. This person seems to be making the point that misery and privation can be normalized, so it doesn't matter. Do I have that right or am I missing the point?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2022 11:45 AM (b6YLE)
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'The senior leadership of the FBI took careful notes from this.'
Do we all remember who the 'seniorest' leader of the FBI at that time was?
'The senior leadership of the FBI took careful notes from this.'
Do we all remember who the 'seniorest' leader of the FBI at that time was?
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 20, 2022 11:45 AM (a1ycR)
Posted by: VIA, I Support Same Sex Locker Rooms, and Mixed Sex Marriage at October 20, 2022 11:45 AM (uLr+K)
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There must be a common core of shared values. The root premises - individual supremacy, government transparency, rule of law, defined national boundaries, etc. - have to be there or divisions can't be overcome because those divisions are fundamental rather than incidental.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2022 11:31 AM (b6YLE)
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The nuance here is where I fall off. If "modern government" requires a large administrative state, then the common values are what those agencies say they are. If the EPA and the Army Corps of Engineers say "we control water, and 'navigable' means a puddle on the ground after a rainstorm", then lots of Americans will immediately fall in lockstep to support. (Sidebar: To defeat this ridiculous overreach, do you pass laws limiting the agency reach, or do you have to eliminate the entire agencies? If you eliminate agencies, will states step up to regulate waterways more intelligently? I say they will.)
I accept that different citizens have different definitions of what is important. What I want to do is make it impossible for the people with whom I disagree to lord their opinions over me as a matter of law.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2022 11:31 AM (b6YLE)
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The nuance here is where I fall off. If "modern government" requires a large administrative state, then the common values are what those agencies say they are. If the EPA and the Army Corps of Engineers say "we control water, and 'navigable' means a puddle on the ground after a rainstorm", then lots of Americans will immediately fall in lockstep to support. (Sidebar: To defeat this ridiculous overreach, do you pass laws limiting the agency reach, or do you have to eliminate the entire agencies? If you eliminate agencies, will states step up to regulate waterways more intelligently? I say they will.)
I accept that different citizens have different definitions of what is important. What I want to do is make it impossible for the people with whom I disagree to lord their opinions over me as a matter of law.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 20, 2022 11:45 AM (FQVzs)
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What are they going to do? Refer to the DoJ for charges? Try people in Alexandria?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 20, 2022 11:45 AM (8FjjU)
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Perhaps they could meet with friends in Iran for drinks.
Posted by: VIA, I Support Same Sex Locker Rooms, and Mixed Sex Marriage at October 20, 2022 11:40 AM
There are some great rooftop bars!
Posted by: VIA, I Support Same Sex Locker Rooms, and Mixed Sex Marriage at October 20, 2022 11:40 AM
There are some great rooftop bars!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 20, 2022 11:46 AM (gYoDm)
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144- agree that's their plan, but execution will lack. Even if voters hate congress in general, they usually like their guy. Biden or his replacement will continue to be the face of the government. Congress has enormous power. He can refuse to sign, but closures via veto will be on him. Selling "I'm shutting down the gov because congress refuses to fund 87000 extra irs agents will be a hard sell, even with a complicit media.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 20, 2022 11:46 AM (DnG2D)
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i thought we were done with boring british news once the chunnel was complete.
Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda at October 20, 2022 11:45 AM (oY6Yp)
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I was over this shit in 1781
Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda at October 20, 2022 11:45 AM (oY6Yp)
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I was over this shit in 1781
Posted by: George Washington at October 20, 2022 11:46 AM (RG7Wy)
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183 You forgot the other half of the game. Herschel Walker doesn't count as black. Lauren Bobert doesn't count as a woman.
Why? Because they aren't leftists.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2022 11:44 AM (ESjRY)
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Probably voted for Sarah Palin, that one.
Why? Because they aren't leftists.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2022 11:44 AM (ESjRY)
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Probably voted for Sarah Palin, that one.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 20, 2022 11:46 AM (LvTSG)
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On my 6th birthday, Nixon's Saturday Night Massacre, and on my 55th, whatever they're calling Truss's bailing. Beware the 20th of October.
Posted by: SFGoth at October 20, 2022 11:46 AM (KAi1n)
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193 What are they going to do? Refer to the DoJ for charges? Try people in Alexandria?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 20, 2022 11:45 AM (8FjjU)
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Cut the DOJ's budget back to 1998 levels?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 20, 2022 11:45 AM (8FjjU)
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Cut the DOJ's budget back to 1998 levels?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 20, 2022 11:46 AM (LvTSG)
Posted by: It's me donna at October 20, 2022 11:47 AM (bs+z0)
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Cut the DOJ's budget back to 1998 levels?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 20, 2022 11:46 AM (LvTSG)
Surely you meant 1898.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 20, 2022 11:46 AM (LvTSG)
Surely you meant 1898.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 20, 2022 11:47 AM (6FeV1)
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a large administrative state, then the common values are what those agencies say they are. If the EPA and the Army Corps of Engineers say "we control water, and 'navigable' means a puddle on the ground after a rainstorm", then lots of Americans will immediately fall in lockstep to suppor
One point the modern right has ignored for a while now is many, perhaps most people, equate legal and moral. Which means you need to "legislate your morality" because the alternative is the left doing so with no opposition, has we've seen for the last 25 years or so.
And yes, this is the opposite of the libertarian position.
One point the modern right has ignored for a while now is many, perhaps most people, equate legal and moral. Which means you need to "legislate your morality" because the alternative is the left doing so with no opposition, has we've seen for the last 25 years or so.
And yes, this is the opposite of the libertarian position.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2022 11:48 AM (ESjRY)
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184 Dave, JJ, and CBD.
I really appreciate what you guys bring to these pages for analysis and comment.
Thank you!
Posted by: Diogene
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Don't forget Joe Manx (I am not a cat)
I really appreciate what you guys bring to these pages for analysis and comment.
Thank you!
Posted by: Diogene
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Don't forget Joe Manx (I am not a cat)
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 20, 2022 11:48 AM (z4scr)
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We promise to cut the DoJs next budget increase to 1998 levels!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 20, 2022 11:48 AM (8FjjU)
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189 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2022 11:45 AM (b6YLE)
I know this is hard to suss out but leftoids are not thinkers.
The retard is comparing watching the Chinese endure the bullshit he favors as policy with the budding of shit he disfavors here. What Mister twinkletoes is trying to say is "our loss doesn't matter because the idiots will make do."
Leftoids are by their nature nihilists.
I know this is hard to suss out but leftoids are not thinkers.
The retard is comparing watching the Chinese endure the bullshit he favors as policy with the budding of shit he disfavors here. What Mister twinkletoes is trying to say is "our loss doesn't matter because the idiots will make do."
Leftoids are by their nature nihilists.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:48 AM (Lzpvj)
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Happy Birthday, SFGoth!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2022 11:48 AM (b6YLE)
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I dated a girl ages ago who was a squishy default leftist but voted for McCain/ Palin because ladyparts.
Just an anecdote.
Just an anecdote.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 20, 2022 11:49 AM (6FeV1)
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Cut the DOJ's budget back to 1998 levels?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Defund and remove all Garland's lackeys at the executive level. IF you eliminate all the Assistant and Associate AG's then Garland himself will have to run the department along with senior civil servants which will absorb all his time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Defund and remove all Garland's lackeys at the executive level. IF you eliminate all the Assistant and Associate AG's then Garland himself will have to run the department along with senior civil servants which will absorb all his time.
Posted by: whig at October 20, 2022 11:49 AM (CXr4y)
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Happy birthday, SFGoth! May the adult beverages be with you.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 20, 2022 11:50 AM (gYoDm)
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202 Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2022 11:48 AM (ESjRY)
What makes libertarians so enraging is they have decided that the left spiking the football on morality is not bothersome for the most part.
If you want to know why a dude with tits can wave his junk at your five year old in a library thank a libertarian.
What makes libertarians so enraging is they have decided that the left spiking the football on morality is not bothersome for the most part.
If you want to know why a dude with tits can wave his junk at your five year old in a library thank a libertarian.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:50 AM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 20, 2022 11:50 AM (8FjjU)
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This sounds insane to write, but as a Christian, I feel that this is the most energizing time in my life.
When you read Paul's letters, for instance - especially to the Ephesians, you see a depraved world where rudderless people did as they pleased, and Christ was with Paul, offering an alternative. He was ultimately executed, just as most of the original disciples and Christ was, but it was through the crucible of oppression that the Truth spread.
We are now living through a similar time. We have the additional luxury of being very clear-eyed about who the Enemy is now. It can't be hidden by a veil of prosperity and plenty. With the opioid crisis and legalized drug addiction numbing our children's minds, and institutionalized oppression against pro-life religious expression and freedom-loving citizens out and proud, this is the time for us to fight the way Paul's contemporaries did.
Were we waiting for our Mandela, Ghandi, or Solzhenitsyn? Any one of us can do this now. It's a fight worth fighting.
When you read Paul's letters, for instance - especially to the Ephesians, you see a depraved world where rudderless people did as they pleased, and Christ was with Paul, offering an alternative. He was ultimately executed, just as most of the original disciples and Christ was, but it was through the crucible of oppression that the Truth spread.
We are now living through a similar time. We have the additional luxury of being very clear-eyed about who the Enemy is now. It can't be hidden by a veil of prosperity and plenty. With the opioid crisis and legalized drug addiction numbing our children's minds, and institutionalized oppression against pro-life religious expression and freedom-loving citizens out and proud, this is the time for us to fight the way Paul's contemporaries did.
Were we waiting for our Mandela, Ghandi, or Solzhenitsyn? Any one of us can do this now. It's a fight worth fighting.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 20, 2022 11:50 AM (b4Y0X)
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Look they already got 75% of the country to lock themselves indoors, deny others rights, not see their dying parents, and every other ridiculous thing about covid, getting them to go full fascist will be rather easy.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 20, 2022 11:50 AM (u4CEu)
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208 Defund and remove all Garland's lackeys at the executive level. IF you eliminate all the Assistant and Associate AG's then Garland himself will have to run the department along with senior civil servants which will absorb all his time.
Posted by: whig at October 20, 2022 11:49 AM (CXr4y)
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Biden vetoes, and then McCarthy says, "We tried. We have to give them everything the left wants and more or we might lose the next election."
Posted by: whig at October 20, 2022 11:49 AM (CXr4y)
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Biden vetoes, and then McCarthy says, "We tried. We have to give them everything the left wants and more or we might lose the next election."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 20, 2022 11:50 AM (LvTSG)
Posted by: It's me donna at October 20, 2022 11:50 AM (bs+z0)
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Disclose.tv @disclosetv · 2h
JUST IN - German Federal Ministry of Economics and Climate Protection, led by Robert Habeck of the Green Party, posts a song by Public Enemy in response to Liz Truss's resignation:
https://twitter.com/bmwk/status/ 1583084978979876864
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UPDATE - Habeck's ministry has now deleted the tweet mocking the resignation of UK's Liz Truss.
UPDATE - Habeck's ministry now says the tweet regarding Liz Truss' resignation "was not an official communication" from BMWK, although posted from their verified account. They "are currently reviewing the facts."
JUST IN - German Federal Ministry of Economics and Climate Protection, led by Robert Habeck of the Green Party, posts a song by Public Enemy in response to Liz Truss's resignation:
https://twitter.com/bmwk/status/ 1583084978979876864
This Tweet was deleted by the Tweet author. Learn more
UPDATE - Habeck's ministry has now deleted the tweet mocking the resignation of UK's Liz Truss.
UPDATE - Habeck's ministry now says the tweet regarding Liz Truss' resignation "was not an official communication" from BMWK, although posted from their verified account. They "are currently reviewing the facts."
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 20, 2022 11:51 AM (yikp0)
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It isn't up to the government to say a grown man cant wave his penis in a 5 year old boy's face! That is a private decision between the man and boy!
-Libertarians
-Libertarians
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 20, 2022 11:51 AM (8FjjU)
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Just to provide a brief ray of sunshine, the 5th Circuit ruled that both the CFPB (Liz Warren's baby) and Biden's debt forgiveness are unconstitutional usurpations of Congressional power, and that Congress MUST originate any funding bills. Neither should have ever even been an issue, but it's progress. All three judges are Trump appointees.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:51 AM (eOEVl)
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"And JJ too!
Happy Birthday JJ !"
Already?
seems like it was just yesterday we were blowing up balloons for the last one
Happy Birthday JJ !"
Already?
seems like it was just yesterday we were blowing up balloons for the last one
Posted by: VIA, I Support Same Sex Locker Rooms, and Mixed Sex Marriage at October 20, 2022 11:52 AM (uLr+K)
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214- it's our job to make it impossible for Kev to say that and keep his position.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 20, 2022 11:52 AM (DnG2D)
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Thanks for the birthday wishes. Someone came by yesterday with a bottle of Aberlour 16. :->
Posted by: SFGoth at October 20, 2022 11:52 AM (KAi1n)
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One point the modern right has ignored for a while now is many, perhaps most people, equate legal and moral. Which means you need to "legislate your morality" because the alternative is the left doing so with no opposition, has we've seen for the last 25 years or so.
And yes, this is the opposite of the libertarian position.
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Positivism took academia by storm--basically, the idea is that a majority can do whatever it wants as long as it was selected legitimately through whatever required process occurred. This is the precious "our democracy" that DC denizens yammer about. Simply put, it puts the cart before the horse--in this way of telling, governments were instituted to rule not to protect the natural rights of individuals.
And yes, this is the opposite of the libertarian position.
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Positivism took academia by storm--basically, the idea is that a majority can do whatever it wants as long as it was selected legitimately through whatever required process occurred. This is the precious "our democracy" that DC denizens yammer about. Simply put, it puts the cart before the horse--in this way of telling, governments were instituted to rule not to protect the natural rights of individuals.
Posted by: whig at October 20, 2022 11:52 AM (CXr4y)
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Well-put, Dave in Fla
Posted by: DB at October 20, 2022 11:52 AM (geLO8)
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Any one of us can do this now. It's a fight worth fighting.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 20, 2022 11:50 AM (b4Y0X)
Cometh the hour, cometh the man. And right now-eth is apparently not-eth the hour-eth.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 20, 2022 11:50 AM (b4Y0X)
Cometh the hour, cometh the man. And right now-eth is apparently not-eth the hour-eth.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 20, 2022 11:52 AM (6FeV1)
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Truss was never intended to be a long-term PM. She was an interim PM because Conservatives were caught off-guard by the Boris Johnson resignation.
Tempest in a teapot.
Tempest in a teapot.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 20, 2022 11:52 AM (lf83v)
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I am hopeful that the collective voters send a really strong message and vote out Dems, even in Blue strongholds. That might have the effect of moderating some of the less ideological Dems like Manchin or Sinema, forcing them to vote for more oil and gas production, closing the borders and refusing to endorse mandates and the unending war with Ukraine and Russia. But we are dealing with the GOPe and Nevertrumpers as well. Sigh
Posted by: Czech Chick at October 20, 2022 11:52 AM (haWye)
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German Federal Ministry of Economics and Climate Protection
At least the combined the 2 bullshit disciplines into one office.
At least the combined the 2 bullshit disciplines into one office.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 20, 2022 11:53 AM (Y5qcH)
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218 Just to provide a brief ray of sunshine, the 5th Circuit ruled that both the CFPB (Liz Warren's baby) and Biden's debt forgiveness are unconstitutional usurpations of Congressional power, and that Congress MUST originate any funding bills. Neither should have ever even been an issue, but it's progress. All three judges are Trump appointees.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:51 AM (eOEVl)
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"I can't believe how lawless Trump's appointees are! It's obvious that unelected bureaucrats should be able to do whatever they want! It's Democracy!"
-The Left
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:51 AM (eOEVl)
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"I can't believe how lawless Trump's appointees are! It's obvious that unelected bureaucrats should be able to do whatever they want! It's Democracy!"
-The Left
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 20, 2022 11:53 AM (LvTSG)
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Those thinking that Republicans are being set up for failure; not alone. With both parties holding power both parties are going to share the blame for the disasters about to unfold. What I expect for the next two years is a virtual (non-kinetic) civil war between the 3 major branches of government, leading to complete dysfunction and a collapse in faith in the Federal govm't across the board. If you live where a State that can pick up the slack, at least in part (for example Florida, or Texas) then you will probably be ok. If not, get ready to flee, no matter the cost.
The conditions will be ripe for the Executive to do what the Banana Republics call an "autogolpe", a self-coup where the executive and the armed forces abolish the legislature and the judiciary. But that takes a strong and focused leader (a man like Peron) and I simply do not think either Biden or Kamala is capable of carrying it out.
The conditions will be ripe for the Executive to do what the Banana Republics call an "autogolpe", a self-coup where the executive and the armed forces abolish the legislature and the judiciary. But that takes a strong and focused leader (a man like Peron) and I simply do not think either Biden or Kamala is capable of carrying it out.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 11:53 AM (trdmm)
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Beware the 20th of October.
Posted by: SFGoth at October 20, 2022 11:46 AM (KAi1n)
"Beware thebrides of October." "Meh, sounds wrong."
"Beware the rides of October" "Nope, still wrong, fuck it."
"Beware the Ides of March." "Got it!"
Posted by: SFGoth at October 20, 2022 11:46 AM (KAi1n)
"Beware the
"Beware the rides of October" "Nope, still wrong, fuck it."
"Beware the Ides of March." "Got it!"
Posted by: Bill Shakespeare at October 20, 2022 11:53 AM (n2g9L)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 20, 2022 11:54 AM (lf83v)
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228 218 Just to provide a brief ray of sunshine, the 5th Circuit ruled that both the CFPB (Liz Warren's baby) and Biden's debt forgiveness are unconstitutional usurpations of Congressional power, and that Congress MUST originate any funding bills. Neither should have ever even been an issue, but it's progress. All three judges are Trump appointees.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:51 AM (eOEVl)
Technically, they ruled only against the CFPB. The same logic can be easily applied to the Debt Bailout, but that case has not reached the 5th Circuit yet.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:51 AM (eOEVl)
Technically, they ruled only against the CFPB. The same logic can be easily applied to the Debt Bailout, but that case has not reached the 5th Circuit yet.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 11:54 AM (trdmm)
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Ah, yes, the "unalienable rights." Each year someone quotes that magnificent poetry. Life? What "right" to life has a man who is drowning in the Pacific? The ocean will not hearken to his cries. What "right" to life has a man who must die if he is to save his children? If he chooses to save his own life, does he do so as a matter of "right"? If two men are starving and cannibalism is the only alternative to death, which man's right is "unalienable"? And is it "right"? As to liberty, the heroes who signed the great document pledged themselves to buy liberty with their lives. Liberty is never unalienable; it must be redeemed regularly with the blood of patriots or it always vanishes. Of all the so-called natural human rights that have ever been invented, liberty is least likely to be cheap and is never free of cost. The third "right"? - the "pursuit of happiness"? It is indeed unalienable but it is not a right; it is simply a universal condition which tyrants cannot take away nor patriots restore. -RAH Starship Troopers[/]
Posted by: WiNO at October 20, 2022 11:55 AM (EpDzw)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:55 AM (eOEVl)
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All these lunatics that think they are heroic planet saviors need to recognize, I saved the Sun!
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 20, 2022 11:55 AM (Y5qcH)
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it's our job to make it impossible for Kev to say that and keep his position.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 20, 2022 11:52 AM (DnG2D)
Sure. And then what? If he is gone... then what? Who replaces him? One of the vast majority of Republican legislators who are exactly like him? Or one of the very few who aren't, and will not be able to command but a handful of his own caucus?
There is no bête noir we can slay and fix the party. McCarthy *is* the party.
it's our job to make it impossible for Kev to say that and keep his position.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at October 20, 2022 11:52 AM (DnG2D)
Sure. And then what? If he is gone... then what? Who replaces him? One of the vast majority of Republican legislators who are exactly like him? Or one of the very few who aren't, and will not be able to command but a handful of his own caucus?
There is no bête noir we can slay and fix the party. McCarthy *is* the party.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2022 11:56 AM (oINRc)
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The good news?...is that the GOPe is likely to get a majority in both houses and do nothing with it.
Leaving Bidenflation pissing off LIVs for the next two years.
That does set up a potential change in 2024 if you get a DeSantis or Trump getting elected president.
But...I'm guessing this is pretty much the last chance we have at saving the country.
By 2024 we will all be poorer and have millions of more invaders from central America voting for whoever promises to give them more.
Leaving Bidenflation pissing off LIVs for the next two years.
That does set up a potential change in 2024 if you get a DeSantis or Trump getting elected president.
But...I'm guessing this is pretty much the last chance we have at saving the country.
By 2024 we will all be poorer and have millions of more invaders from central America voting for whoever promises to give them more.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2022 11:56 AM (ESjRY)
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Technically, they ruled only against the CFPB. The same logic can be easily applied to the Debt Bailout, but that case has not reached the 5th Circuit yet.
Yup, you are correct, I got ahead of myself. Still, I don't see how you get one without the other.
Yup, you are correct, I got ahead of myself. Still, I don't see how you get one without the other.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:56 AM (eOEVl)
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Freedom is inextricably linked to protection of property rights through the rule of law. If the people hold the source of taxable wealth, and the rule of law is enforced, then the sovereign has to come begging.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 20, 2022 11:57 AM (SIZS3)
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"The nature of the discussion was after losing the midterms, what does the Left do? "
Return to activism to push the Overton window further left thru NGO's, academia and MSM and will will probably be largely successful What we considered insane leftist stupidity in 2008 seems quaint and normal now thanks to their relentless pushing.
Return to activism to push the Overton window further left thru NGO's, academia and MSM and will will probably be largely successful What we considered insane leftist stupidity in 2008 seems quaint and normal now thanks to their relentless pushing.
Posted by: Ripley at October 20, 2022 11:57 AM (MxEKc)
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Yup, you are correct, I got ahead of myself. Still, I don't see how you get one without the other.
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Hawaiian Judges do exist.
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Hawaiian Judges do exist.
Posted by: Puddinhead at October 20, 2022 11:57 AM (Hudry)
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I am a believer and saved by Jesus. I do know this no political party right or left will save us. I pray we as a people return to God but if not God is a just God. Weather people believe this or not God's will prevails.
Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at October 20, 2022 11:57 AM (zyDdh)
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I put no faith in the mid term elections. They can replace the entire House with republicans, and it will take them 5 minutes to become the new dictators.
Posted by: Jimco Industries at October 20, 2022 11:58 AM (buTO7)
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The tranny in China must have been very entertaining for them.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:39 AM (Lzpvj)
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It's hard to tell the difference between Tranny and Tyranny.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 11:39 AM (Lzpvj)
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It's hard to tell the difference between Tranny and Tyranny.
Posted by: ShainS -- Now Jabbed & Boosted with the Nuclear War & Hurricane Vaccines at October 20, 2022 11:58 AM (K3TEc)
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The Daily Daddario is early today because TJM won't be around this afternoon:
https://tinyurl.com/mr3vrppp
https://tinyurl.com/mr3vrppp
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 20, 2022 11:58 AM (LvTSG)
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It was nice last night seeing the 'Latinos con Cox' signs alongside the road in the predominantly hispanic section of Baltimore County.
Cox being the Trump endorsed candidate for Maryland Governor that beat the crap out of the Larry Hogan supported candidate in the primary.
Cox being the Trump endorsed candidate for Maryland Governor that beat the crap out of the Larry Hogan supported candidate in the primary.
Posted by: VIA, I Support Same Sex Locker Rooms, and Mixed Sex Marriage at October 20, 2022 11:58 AM (uLr+K)
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Tranny would have been better off in Thailand.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 20, 2022 11:59 AM (8FjjU)
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There is no bête noir we can slay and fix the party. McCarthy *is* the party.
Even if he is, it's the old saw about making the wrong people do the right thing. Defenestration of McCarthy will encourage the others.
Even if he is, it's the old saw about making the wrong people do the right thing. Defenestration of McCarthy will encourage the others.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:59 AM (eOEVl)
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Biden vetoes, and then McCarthy says, "We tried. We have to give them everything the left wants and more or we might lose the next election."
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Nothing will happen if there is no will. I am simply stating how previous legislative assemblies including the US colonial legislatures dealt with overweening asshole governors. Since the king was off limits, you go after the minions. One of the easiest AG positions to eliminate is the National Security Division and its assistant AG. Same for sniping out some of Wray's corrupt henchpeople.
Harder haul politically to stop government over this. Same with impeachment--don't bother impeaching Biden but go after Garland for the school board fiasco and Mayorkas for lying to Congress. The henchpeople have less insulation from personal pain than does the executive.
Essentially, a GOP legislature must be a sharpshooter and like the Continentals, only fight on favorable ground which is the tax and spending clauses. One thing that even McConnell might go for as far as grift is fund most of the federal agencies on short term omnibus bills of 60-90 days each.
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Nothing will happen if there is no will. I am simply stating how previous legislative assemblies including the US colonial legislatures dealt with overweening asshole governors. Since the king was off limits, you go after the minions. One of the easiest AG positions to eliminate is the National Security Division and its assistant AG. Same for sniping out some of Wray's corrupt henchpeople.
Harder haul politically to stop government over this. Same with impeachment--don't bother impeaching Biden but go after Garland for the school board fiasco and Mayorkas for lying to Congress. The henchpeople have less insulation from personal pain than does the executive.
Essentially, a GOP legislature must be a sharpshooter and like the Continentals, only fight on favorable ground which is the tax and spending clauses. One thing that even McConnell might go for as far as grift is fund most of the federal agencies on short term omnibus bills of 60-90 days each.
Posted by: whig at October 20, 2022 11:59 AM (CXr4y)
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We are now living through a similar time. We have the additional luxury of being very clear-eyed about who the Enemy is now. It can't be hidden by a veil of prosperity and plenty.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 20, 2022 11:50 AM (b4Y0X)
This has been my hope, that many who have been unable to see clearly the transcendent battle for the misguided fear that they are somehow sacrificing their intellect by acknowledging it, will recognize that this fight can not be thought through reason or might, but only by spiritual means.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 20, 2022 11:50 AM (b4Y0X)
This has been my hope, that many who have been unable to see clearly the transcendent battle for the misguided fear that they are somehow sacrificing their intellect by acknowledging it, will recognize that this fight can not be thought through reason or might, but only by spiritual means.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 20, 2022 12:00 PM (xLqhd)
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Brawl erupts at Hooters after teens selling chocolate get kicked out
Posted by: DB at October 20, 2022 12:00 PM (geLO8)
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Even if he is, it's the old saw about making the wrong people do the right thing. Defenestration of McCarthy will encourage the others.
Wash, rinse, and repeat as needed.
Wash, rinse, and repeat as needed.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 12:00 PM (eOEVl)
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244 I put no faith in the mid term elections. They can replace the entire House with republicans, and it will take them 5 minutes to become the new dictators.
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Not really, the GOP is more motivated by money and perhaps sexual deviancy. Some of the Dems have those desires but there is a hard core of leftists that aim to rule.
Posted by: Jimco Industries
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Not really, the GOP is more motivated by money and perhaps sexual deviancy. Some of the Dems have those desires but there is a hard core of leftists that aim to rule.
Posted by: whig at October 20, 2022 12:00 PM (CXr4y)
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The nature of the discussion was after losing the midterms, what does the Left do?
Andrew Wilkow touched on that a while ago. To paraphrase "When they are not in power, they act like they are and push their agendas."
Andrew Wilkow touched on that a while ago. To paraphrase "When they are not in power, they act like they are and push their agendas."
Posted by: NR Pax at October 20, 2022 12:00 PM (4olE8)
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250 Essentially, a GOP legislature must be a sharpshooter and like the Continentals, only fight on favorable ground which is the tax and spending clauses. One thing that even McConnell might go for as far as grift is fund most of the federal agencies on short term omnibus bills of 60-90 days each.
Posted by: whig at October 20, 2022 11:59 AM (CXr4y)
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I'd love to see a GOP House go YOLO and just simply refuse any kind of funding for the executive branch until something like Garland resigning happens.
Posted by: whig at October 20, 2022 11:59 AM (CXr4y)
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I'd love to see a GOP House go YOLO and just simply refuse any kind of funding for the executive branch until something like Garland resigning happens.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 20, 2022 12:00 PM (LvTSG)
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Brawl erupts at Hooters after teens selling chocolate get kicked out
Posted by: DB at October 20, 2022 12:00 PM (geLO
This would be ever so much better, if there were pictures.
Posted by: DB at October 20, 2022 12:00 PM (geLO
This would be ever so much better, if there were pictures.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2022 12:01 PM (n2g9L)
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"I can't believe how lawless Trump's appointees are! It's obvious that unelected bureaucrats should be able to do whatever they want! It's Democracy!"
-The Left
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What people on the left often say is that judges are going against the will of the people.
*Vincent Vega confused gif
"I can't believe how lawless Trump's appointees are! It's obvious that unelected bureaucrats should be able to do whatever they want! It's Democracy!"
-The Left
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What people on the left often say is that judges are going against the will of the people.
*Vincent Vega confused gif
Posted by: MJ at October 20, 2022 12:01 PM (zwDuR)
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Seems strange that the same crowd that screams 'You're not the boss of me!!' envision themselves as the boss of us.
Posted by: VIA, I Support Same Sex Locker Rooms, and Mixed Sex Marriage at October 20, 2022 12:02 PM (uLr+K)
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Both parties firmly believe they were elected to rule over the people any way they want, regardless of any type of freedom. Floridas goveror just signed a bill into law that forbids filming certain crimes he doesn't like. If you even film someone squealing their cars tires, according to Floridas dumb fuck governor, you should be put in prison.
Posted by: Jimco Industries at October 20, 2022 12:02 PM (buTO7)
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It would be great if the GOP spent 2 years passing bill after bill for FJB to veto. I would be happier if they did absolutely nothing.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 20, 2022 12:03 PM (8FjjU)
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Brawl erupts at Hooters after teens selling chocolate get kicked out
Posted by: DB at October 20, 2022 12:00 PM (geLO
This makes me snicker.
Posted by: DB at October 20, 2022 12:00 PM (geLO
This makes me snicker.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 20, 2022 12:03 PM (gL3uY)
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The conditions will be ripe for the Executive to do what the Banana Republics call an "autogolpe", a self-coup where the executive and the armed forces abolish the legislature and the judiciary. But that takes a strong and focused leader (a man like Peron) and I simply do not think either Biden or Kamala is capable of carrying it out.
Posted by: Tom Servo
Ironically, if that is the plan, they've undermined it by what they've done to the military. It's the main reason I remain fairly sanguine about our odds if/when push finally comes to shove--I don't believe the armed forces have sufficient strength in capability or morale to successfully resist a widespread popular uprising, indeed I would expect large chunks of combat arms to defect in that scenario. They would retain technical, logistical, and intelligence capabilities, but without sufficient boots on ground...
It is highly unlikely they win. It is more likely that "everybody loses", though I hope for "we win at great cost" (because light cost ain't in the picture, barring outright blatant divine intervention).
Posted by: Tom Servo
Ironically, if that is the plan, they've undermined it by what they've done to the military. It's the main reason I remain fairly sanguine about our odds if/when push finally comes to shove--I don't believe the armed forces have sufficient strength in capability or morale to successfully resist a widespread popular uprising, indeed I would expect large chunks of combat arms to defect in that scenario. They would retain technical, logistical, and intelligence capabilities, but without sufficient boots on ground...
It is highly unlikely they win. It is more likely that "everybody loses", though I hope for "we win at great cost" (because light cost ain't in the picture, barring outright blatant divine intervention).
Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at October 20, 2022 12:03 PM (OUMaO)
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The nature of the discussion was after losing the midterms, what does the Left do?
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We'll likely see The Junta cranking out about 10 Executive Orders daily mandating all manner of insanity -- I mean who's gonna stop them? Even if the courts could stop it, the idiotic bureaucrat inertia makes it impossible to do so.
As Joe Mannix points out, probably our only hope now is nullification by the various conservative states.
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We'll likely see The Junta cranking out about 10 Executive Orders daily mandating all manner of insanity -- I mean who's gonna stop them? Even if the courts could stop it, the idiotic bureaucrat inertia makes it impossible to do so.
As Joe Mannix points out, probably our only hope now is nullification by the various conservative states.
Posted by: ShainS -- Now Jabbed & Boosted with the Nuclear War & Hurricane Vaccines at October 20, 2022 12:03 PM (K3TEc)
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I went over to Ann Barnhardt's site, mentioned in the above thread. Better late than never she attributes Event 201 to the WEF and Gates. Amazing how a conference that prescient has been ignored.
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 12:03 PM (Zzbjj)
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Return to activism to push the Overton window further left thru NGO's, academia and MSM and will will probably be largely successful What we considered insane leftist stupidity in 2008 seems quaint and normal now thanks to their relentless pushing.
Posted by: Ripley at October 20, 2022 11:57 AM (MxEKc)
And our response, as hard as it may be to accept, must be to destroy those institutions which the left has co-opted and replace them with something new. Disney goes woke? Don't waste effort thinking we can "save" them, instead do away with them. All the major protestant denominations going left? Let them all die, Christianity will get along fine without them. Education becoming totally corrupted? Burn the entire current education system to the ground, do away with at least 3/4 of all of the universities in this country, and stop saying everyone needs to go to one.
That is the hard path we have to take, but it is the only one that has any hope of success.
Posted by: Ripley at October 20, 2022 11:57 AM (MxEKc)
And our response, as hard as it may be to accept, must be to destroy those institutions which the left has co-opted and replace them with something new. Disney goes woke? Don't waste effort thinking we can "save" them, instead do away with them. All the major protestant denominations going left? Let them all die, Christianity will get along fine without them. Education becoming totally corrupted? Burn the entire current education system to the ground, do away with at least 3/4 of all of the universities in this country, and stop saying everyone needs to go to one.
That is the hard path we have to take, but it is the only one that has any hope of success.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 12:03 PM (trdmm)
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Everyone loves big government when big government is forcing people to do things their way.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 20, 2022 12:03 PM (8FjjU)
Posted by: VIA, I Support Same Sex Locker Rooms, and Mixed Sex Marriage at October 20, 2022 12:03 PM (uLr+K)
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This makes me snicker.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 20, 2022 12:03 PM (gL3uY)
Heh. There could have been mounds of joy.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 20, 2022 12:03 PM (gL3uY)
Heh. There could have been mounds of joy.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2022 12:04 PM (n2g9L)
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OMG you guys are going to be totally and completely surprised.
Hot Air is against impeaching Biden or even talking about it.
It's not who we are.
Hot Air is against impeaching Biden or even talking about it.
It's not who we are.
Posted by: MJ at October 20, 2022 12:04 PM (zwDuR)
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249 There is no bête noir we can slay and fix the party. McCarthy *is* the party.
Even if he is, it's the old saw about making the wrong people do the right thing. Defenestration of McCarthy will encourage the others.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:59 AM (eOEVl)
Tell me about it.
Even if he is, it's the old saw about making the wrong people do the right thing. Defenestration of McCarthy will encourage the others.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:59 AM (eOEVl)
Tell me about it.
Posted by: Eric Cantor at October 20, 2022 12:04 PM (b4Y0X)
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Seems strange that the same crowd that screams 'You're not the boss of me!!' envision themselves as the boss of us.
Posted by: VIA, I Support Same Sex Locker Rooms, and Mixed Sex Marriage
Makes perfect sense when you realize the second half is unspoken: "...because I'M the boss of YOU!"
Posted by: VIA, I Support Same Sex Locker Rooms, and Mixed Sex Marriage
Makes perfect sense when you realize the second half is unspoken: "...because I'M the boss of YOU!"
Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at October 20, 2022 12:05 PM (OUMaO)
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Not really, the GOP is more motivated by money and perhaps sexual deviancy. Some of the Dems have those desires but there is a hard core of leftists that aim to rule.
Posted by: whig at October 20, 2022 12:00 PM (CXr4y)
Yup.
One of the curious things to me that's come to light in recent years, is just how sexually weird ConInc really is. When I was younger I used to say "well, sure the deviants on the Right are hypocrites, but most of them aren't deviants, and it's the left that argues in favor of sexual deviance, and most of them are deviants."
Wrong. The Right is every bit as sexually deviant as the Left. I believe moreso, truth be told. Once you see it, you can't unsee it - there are a *lot* of gays and pedophiles on the professional right.
The entire Family Values bullshit was just cover for this.
Not really, the GOP is more motivated by money and perhaps sexual deviancy. Some of the Dems have those desires but there is a hard core of leftists that aim to rule.
Posted by: whig at October 20, 2022 12:00 PM (CXr4y)
Yup.
One of the curious things to me that's come to light in recent years, is just how sexually weird ConInc really is. When I was younger I used to say "well, sure the deviants on the Right are hypocrites, but most of them aren't deviants, and it's the left that argues in favor of sexual deviance, and most of them are deviants."
Wrong. The Right is every bit as sexually deviant as the Left. I believe moreso, truth be told. Once you see it, you can't unsee it - there are a *lot* of gays and pedophiles on the professional right.
The entire Family Values bullshit was just cover for this.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2022 12:05 PM (oINRc)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 20, 2022 12:05 PM (bW8dp)
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"Hot Air is against impeaching Biden or even talking about it.
It's not who we are."
Who's this 'we', white boy?
You got a mouse in your pocket?
It's not who we are."
Who's this 'we', white boy?
You got a mouse in your pocket?
Posted by: VIA, I Support Same Sex Locker Rooms, and Mixed Sex Marriage at October 20, 2022 12:05 PM (uLr+K)
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2022 12:05 PM (vXUHK)
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Government (public) service used to be a calling, a sacrifice the patriot made for his country. That lasted a few hours after the Constitutional Convention adjourned.
Now government is a job, an industry. Everybody wants in, Because the pay and perks are phenomenal. These people cannot be expected to do what is right for the country. They will serve themselves, at our expense.
O merciful SMOD, we humbly beseech thee, let's get it on.
Now government is a job, an industry. Everybody wants in, Because the pay and perks are phenomenal. These people cannot be expected to do what is right for the country. They will serve themselves, at our expense.
O merciful SMOD, we humbly beseech thee, let's get it on.
Posted by: DB at October 20, 2022 12:05 PM (geLO8)
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266 Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 12:03 PM (trdmm)
The GOP should change copyright law day one.
"You picked the wrong party Mouse."
The GOP should change copyright law day one.
"You picked the wrong party Mouse."
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 12:05 PM (Lzpvj)
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OMG you guys are going to be totally and completely surprised.
Hot Air is against impeaching Biden or even talking about it.
It's not who we are.
Posted by: MJ at October 20, 2022 12:04 PM (zwDuR)
Michelle did great things at every site she created, and the ones left, went there.................
Hot Air is against impeaching Biden or even talking about it.
It's not who we are.
Posted by: MJ at October 20, 2022 12:04 PM (zwDuR)
Michelle did great things at every site she created, and the ones left, went there.................
Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 20, 2022 12:06 PM (7bRMQ)
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There is no bête noir we can slay and fix the party. McCarthy *is* the party.
Even if he is, it's the old saw about making the wrong people do the right thing. Defenestration of McCarthy will encourage the others.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:59 AM (eOEVl)
Tell me about it.
As per @253: Wash, rinse, and repeat as needed.
Even if he is, it's the old saw about making the wrong people do the right thing. Defenestration of McCarthy will encourage the others.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:59 AM (eOEVl)
Tell me about it.
As per @253: Wash, rinse, and repeat as needed.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 12:06 PM (eOEVl)
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This would be ever so much better, if there were pictures.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2022 12:01 PM (n2g9L)
Picture it in your mind.
Then go look up the video and you'll find out your mental images are correct.
Not because you are racist, but because you understand reality.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2022 12:01 PM (n2g9L)
Picture it in your mind.
Then go look up the video and you'll find out your mental images are correct.
Not because you are racist, but because you understand reality.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 20, 2022 12:06 PM (xLqhd)
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I've yet to see a list of the minimum 12 Democrat senators who would vote to convict Biden or any of his minions in an impeachment trial.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 20, 2022 12:07 PM (LvTSG)
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Spot on, Dave. I'd add to this something posted several times prior, but always pertinent--if you look back through our history you'll discover we have met and prevailed over issues every bit as serious as the current mess. You may also note the unbroken record of success we have.
I submit it's a huge part of our heritage that we continue the struggle of our predecessors to ensure that our republic endures. This effort must NEVER be abandoned or our country WILL fail. And that you may take to the bank.
I submit it's a huge part of our heritage that we continue the struggle of our predecessors to ensure that our republic endures. This effort must NEVER be abandoned or our country WILL fail. And that you may take to the bank.
Posted by: irongrampa at October 20, 2022 12:07 PM (KATBx)
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268 Brawl erupts at Hooters after teens selling chocolate get kicked out. Shoulda seen it at the Waffle House way earlier that morning.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 20, 2022 12:07 PM (lz5hY)
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It would be great if the GOP spent 2 years passing bill after bill for FJB to veto. I would be happier if they did absolutely nothing.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 20, 2022 12:03 PM (8FjjU)
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Fantasy: they all go home for two years (presumably preventing a quorum). Shut. It. Down.
Let. It. Burn. [Maybe the Junta would send FBI SWAT Teams to arrest and forcibly lock them in the Capitol building for two years. The Garland Archipelago goes Big Time!]
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 20, 2022 12:03 PM (8FjjU)
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Fantasy: they all go home for two years (presumably preventing a quorum). Shut. It. Down.
Let. It. Burn. [Maybe the Junta would send FBI SWAT Teams to arrest and forcibly lock them in the Capitol building for two years. The Garland Archipelago goes Big Time!]
Posted by: ShainS -- Now Jabbed & Boosted with the Nuclear War & Hurricane Vaccines at October 20, 2022 12:07 PM (K3TEc)
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275 Posted by: VIA, I Support Same Sex Locker Rooms, and Mixed Sex Marriage at October 20, 2022 12:05 PM (uLr+K)
Tepid Err never missing the opportunity to miss an opportunity.
The pussies still will not have an open forum because:
1) they do not want to face how hated AP and Ed are
and
2) they still think their flatus smells sweet enough people will pay to comment
Tepid Err never missing the opportunity to miss an opportunity.
The pussies still will not have an open forum because:
1) they do not want to face how hated AP and Ed are
and
2) they still think their flatus smells sweet enough people will pay to comment
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 12:08 PM (Lzpvj)
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Government (public) service used to be a calling, a sacrifice the patriot made for his country. That lasted a few hours after the Constitutional Convention adjourned.
Now government is a job, an industry. Everybody wants in, Because the pay and perks are phenomenal. These people cannot be expected to do what is right for the country. They will serve themselves, at our expense.
O merciful SMOD, we humbly beseech thee, let's get it on.
Posted by: DB at October 20, 2022 12:05 PM (geLO
And people like me, who valued the above, can't get in. Actually never allowed in there now.
Now government is a job, an industry. Everybody wants in, Because the pay and perks are phenomenal. These people cannot be expected to do what is right for the country. They will serve themselves, at our expense.
O merciful SMOD, we humbly beseech thee, let's get it on.
Posted by: DB at October 20, 2022 12:05 PM (geLO
And people like me, who valued the above, can't get in. Actually never allowed in there now.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 20, 2022 12:08 PM (7bRMQ)
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> "Brawl erupts at Hooters after teens selling chocolate get kicked out "
Teens? So more like "Peepers" or "Cheepers", then?
Teens? So more like "Peepers" or "Cheepers", then?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 20, 2022 12:08 PM (bW8dp)
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I'd love to see a GOP House go YOLO and just simply refuse any kind of funding for the executive branch until something like Garland resigning happens.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Easier to do the no justice no funding bit by bit especially with riders on short term spending bills. Go after the sub department funding like the DOJ Nat Sec. Division or FBI Office of Counter Terrorism, fusion centers, etc. Use riders to forbid certain policies and so on.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Easier to do the no justice no funding bit by bit especially with riders on short term spending bills. Go after the sub department funding like the DOJ Nat Sec. Division or FBI Office of Counter Terrorism, fusion centers, etc. Use riders to forbid certain policies and so on.
Posted by: whig at October 20, 2022 12:08 PM (CXr4y)
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This sounds insane to write, but as a Christian, I feel that this is the most energizing time in my life.
When you read Paul's letters, for instance - especially to the Ephesians, you see a depraved world where rudderless people did as they pleased, and Christ was with Paul, offering an alternative. He was ultimately executed, just as most of the original disciples and Christ was, but it was through the crucible of oppression that the Truth spread.
Posted by: Darrell Harris
Basically, the commie cocksucker Donks are Gabriel from the film Constantine.
This sounds insane to write, but as a Christian, I feel that this is the most energizing time in my life.
When you read Paul's letters, for instance - especially to the Ephesians, you see a depraved world where rudderless people did as they pleased, and Christ was with Paul, offering an alternative. He was ultimately executed, just as most of the original disciples and Christ was, but it was through the crucible of oppression that the Truth spread.
Posted by: Darrell Harris
Basically, the commie cocksucker Donks are Gabriel from the film Constantine.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 20, 2022 12:08 PM (n+4am)
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Wrong. The Right is every bit as sexually deviant as the Left. I believe moreso, truth be told. Once you see it, you can't unsee it - there are a *lot* of gays and pedophiles on the professional right.
The entire Family Values bullshit was just cover for this.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2022 12:05 PM (oINRc)
Just from observation, it looks like a fatal flaw in the personality of almost everyone (with a few very notable exceptions) who chooses Holding Public Office as their true heart's desire.
The entire Family Values bullshit was just cover for this.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2022 12:05 PM (oINRc)
Just from observation, it looks like a fatal flaw in the personality of almost everyone (with a few very notable exceptions) who chooses Holding Public Office as their true heart's desire.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 12:08 PM (trdmm)
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279 Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 20, 2022 12:06 PM (7bRMQ)
I am wondering about Malkin, she got awfully quiet the last three years.
I am wondering about Malkin, she got awfully quiet the last three years.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 12:09 PM (Lzpvj)
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OMG you guys are going to be totally and completely surprised.
Hot Air is against impeaching Biden or even talking about it.
It's not who we are.
Posted by: MJ at October 20, 2022 12:04 PM (zwDuR)
Honestly, this doesn't bother me. The Senate won't convict so having the House impeach is a waste of time. Further, it would likely tarnish the GOP majority in the eyes of the electorate. Better that they should pass bills which Biden will veto and say, "we TRIED to fix things but...".
Hot Air is against impeaching Biden or even talking about it.
It's not who we are.
Posted by: MJ at October 20, 2022 12:04 PM (zwDuR)
Honestly, this doesn't bother me. The Senate won't convict so having the House impeach is a waste of time. Further, it would likely tarnish the GOP majority in the eyes of the electorate. Better that they should pass bills which Biden will veto and say, "we TRIED to fix things but...".
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 20, 2022 12:09 PM (zhLdt)
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My belief is that the greatest benefit of Trump is that he ripped the masks off and showed to us how our government is really being run. The Deep State lived in the shadows for decades, but their psychotic need to rid themselves of Trump has exposed them to the People. The midterm election is one of many steps forward to take back our country, and exercise our God given Right to Liberty.
I posted this from an article this AM:
He has reconstituted the old and irrelevant Republican Party into something new and exciting that directly appeals to workers, parents, the religious faithful, and patriotic Americans of every color and creed. He is the standard-bearer of an imaginative and daring path forward for America in the twenty-first century.
I posted this from an article this AM:
He has reconstituted the old and irrelevant Republican Party into something new and exciting that directly appeals to workers, parents, the religious faithful, and patriotic Americans of every color and creed. He is the standard-bearer of an imaginative and daring path forward for America in the twenty-first century.
Posted by: rhennigantx at October 20, 2022 12:09 PM (BRHaw)
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... The conditions will be ripe for the Executive to do what the Banana Republics call an "autogolpe", a self-coup where the executive and the armed forces abolish the legislature and the judiciary. But that takes a strong and focused leader (a man like Peron) and I simply do not think either Biden or Kamala is capable of carrying it out.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 11:53 AM (trdmm)
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It requires a strong man, but more importantly it requires *one* man who is in charge. We don't have that. We have a Politburo running things, and the Party factionalism is showing up all over the place. Different Politburo members are running their own sub-cabals and are often working at crossed purposes.
That is also dangerous, and when one of those strong men appears, it will make a self-coup much easier and give it a higher probability of success.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 11:53 AM (trdmm)
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It requires a strong man, but more importantly it requires *one* man who is in charge. We don't have that. We have a Politburo running things, and the Party factionalism is showing up all over the place. Different Politburo members are running their own sub-cabals and are often working at crossed purposes.
That is also dangerous, and when one of those strong men appears, it will make a self-coup much easier and give it a higher probability of success.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2022 12:09 PM (b6YLE)
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I've yet to see a list of the minimum 12 Democrat senators who would vote to convict Biden or any of his minions in an impeachment trial.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 20, 2022 12:07 PM (LvTSG)
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Not to mention the 12 Republican senators who would vote to acquit him.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 20, 2022 12:07 PM (LvTSG)
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Not to mention the 12 Republican senators who would vote to acquit him.
Posted by: ShainS -- Now Jabbed & Boosted with the Nuclear War & Hurricane Vaccines at October 20, 2022 12:09 PM (K3TEc)
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The Daily Daddario is early today because TJM won't be around this afternoon:
https://tinyurl.com/mr3vrppp
Anytime is a good time for DD.
https://tinyurl.com/mr3vrppp
Anytime is a good time for DD.
Posted by: Candidus at October 20, 2022 12:10 PM (469KY)
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Something odd, I just hit refresh and the computer said "this site wants access to your microphone".
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 12:10 PM (Zzbjj)
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296 Not to mention the 12 Republican senators who would vote to acquit him.
Posted by: ShainS -- Now Jabbed & Boosted with the Nuclear War & Hurricane Vaccines at October 20, 2022 12:09 PM (K3TEc)
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Yeah, that's the other side.
Romney and Collins voting to convict Biden? Are you people high?
Posted by: ShainS -- Now Jabbed & Boosted with the Nuclear War & Hurricane Vaccines at October 20, 2022 12:09 PM (K3TEc)
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Yeah, that's the other side.
Romney and Collins voting to convict Biden? Are you people high?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 20, 2022 12:10 PM (LvTSG)
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> Brawl erupts at Hooters after teens selling chocolate get kicked out.
1) Boys, not girls.
2) Apparently a 10-year-old is now a "teen".
3) Looks like they were engaging in the scam of aggressively shaking down the customers to "buy" their "products", with adult scammers close by to supervise.
1) Boys, not girls.
2) Apparently a 10-year-old is now a "teen".
3) Looks like they were engaging in the scam of aggressively shaking down the customers to "buy" their "products", with adult scammers close by to supervise.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 20, 2022 12:10 PM (bW8dp)
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Anytime is a good time for DD.
Posted by: Candidus at October 20, 2022 12:10 PM (469KY)
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True. As an added benefit, she doesn't look like she wants to eat my liver in that picture.
Posted by: Candidus at October 20, 2022 12:10 PM (469KY)
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True. As an added benefit, she doesn't look like she wants to eat my liver in that picture.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2022 12:10 PM (b6YLE)
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>I am wondering about Malkin, she got awfully quiet the last three years.
Posted by: sven
she got paid for being a conservative for a while, now she's kicking back
Posted by: sven
she got paid for being a conservative for a while, now she's kicking back
Posted by: DB at October 20, 2022 12:11 PM (geLO8)
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Keep in mind that states are also full of these leftist bureaucracys, like a department of natural resources. They need to be checked as well.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at October 20, 2022 12:11 PM (5HBd1)
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"Just from observation, it looks like a fatal flaw in the personality of almost everyone (with a few very notable exceptions) who chooses Holding Public Office as their true heart's desire."
So this got me wondering.
Did Donald Trump consider holding Public Office as his heart's desire..or did he have a sense of wanting to try to fix what was wrong with our current path?
So this got me wondering.
Did Donald Trump consider holding Public Office as his heart's desire..or did he have a sense of wanting to try to fix what was wrong with our current path?
Posted by: VIA, I Support Same Sex Locker Rooms, and Mixed Sex Marriage at October 20, 2022 12:11 PM (uLr+K)
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He has reconstituted the old and irrelevant Republican Party into something new and exciting that directly appeals to workers, parents, the religious faithful, and patriotic Americans of every color and creed. He is the standard-bearer of an imaginative and daring path forward for America in the twenty-first century.
If you doubt that, ask the PTB in the Dem Party. The defection of minorities and the working class has the savvier among them scared s***less. Trump remade the GOP.
If you doubt that, ask the PTB in the Dem Party. The defection of minorities and the working class has the savvier among them scared s***less. Trump remade the GOP.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 12:11 PM (eOEVl)
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34 He was better when he was in America.
This is true of many people and things. Pizza, for instance.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:13 AM (eOEVl)
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Best pizza I've ever eaten, other than my Mum's, was in Italy.
This is true of many people and things. Pizza, for instance.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 20, 2022 11:13 AM (eOEVl)
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Best pizza I've ever eaten, other than my Mum's, was in Italy.
Posted by: Ciampino - In Italian peperoni are green peppers at October 20, 2022 12:11 PM (qfLjt)
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Just for background, I have "The Patriot" on. It must have really sucked to be a Brit grunt in the 18th century. Even the trip to the colonies probably killed a lot, overcrowding on the ship, poor hygiene, poor diet.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 20, 2022 12:11 PM (lz5hY)
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13 McCarthy and McConnell will betray you within minutes of being sworn in.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at October 20, 2022 11:06 AM (5bLiR)
And how will this be different from the years before they are sworn in?
As to the comparison with the 1770s, this tyranny is far more enumerated, entrenched and pitiless. History has never seen such a sprawling, empowered and unanimously dedicated bureaucratic machine, one with obvious ambitions toward tyranny.
What I find depressing is that not one Republican has even tried to explain J6 as the manifestation of grievances both profound and legitimate. It may have been a flawed petition, but the roots of it are worth political airing. They seem either uniformly terrified or uncomprehending. There is currently an historical and completely justified basis for insurrection.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at October 20, 2022 11:06 AM (5bLiR)
And how will this be different from the years before they are sworn in?
As to the comparison with the 1770s, this tyranny is far more enumerated, entrenched and pitiless. History has never seen such a sprawling, empowered and unanimously dedicated bureaucratic machine, one with obvious ambitions toward tyranny.
What I find depressing is that not one Republican has even tried to explain J6 as the manifestation of grievances both profound and legitimate. It may have been a flawed petition, but the roots of it are worth political airing. They seem either uniformly terrified or uncomprehending. There is currently an historical and completely justified basis for insurrection.
Posted by: Ordinary American at October 20, 2022 12:11 PM (2oCOn)
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299 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 20, 2022 12:10 PM (LvTSG)
I could see Mitt splitting the baby and voting to convict but voting against any punishment.
I could see Mitt splitting the baby and voting to convict but voting against any punishment.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 12:11 PM (Lzpvj)
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301 Anytime is a good time for DD.
Posted by: Candidus at October 20, 2022 12:10 PM (469KY)
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True. As an added benefit, she doesn't look like she wants to eat my liver in that picture.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2022 12:10 PM (b6YLE)
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It's her post-bunny boiling pose.
Posted by: Candidus at October 20, 2022 12:10 PM (469KY)
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True. As an added benefit, she doesn't look like she wants to eat my liver in that picture.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2022 12:10 PM (b6YLE)
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It's her post-bunny boiling pose.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 20, 2022 12:12 PM (LvTSG)
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I've yet to see a list of the minimum 12 Democrat senators who would vote to convict Biden or any of his minions in an impeachment trial.
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Well, it obviously doesn't exist but the goal isn't to actually impeach the fucker. It's to get them to stop impeaching our fuckers for making phone calls.
Impeach the guy nine times and make a totally mockery of it.
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Well, it obviously doesn't exist but the goal isn't to actually impeach the fucker. It's to get them to stop impeaching our fuckers for making phone calls.
Impeach the guy nine times and make a totally mockery of it.
Posted by: MJ at October 20, 2022 12:12 PM (zwDuR)
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at October 20, 2022 12:12 PM (6vA7M)
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The GOP should change copyright law day one.
"You picked the wrong party Mouse."
Posted by: sven
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The copyright law actuates a Treaty that the US signed, the Berne Convention. The US used to adhere to a competing Convention but as most of Euro land, etc. went for the Berne Convention, the US risked being the odd country out risking its intellectual property.
"You picked the wrong party Mouse."
Posted by: sven
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The copyright law actuates a Treaty that the US signed, the Berne Convention. The US used to adhere to a competing Convention but as most of Euro land, etc. went for the Berne Convention, the US risked being the odd country out risking its intellectual property.
Posted by: whig at October 20, 2022 12:12 PM (CXr4y)
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Did Donald Trump consider holding Public Office as his heart's desire..or did he have a sense of wanting to try to fix what was wrong with our current path?
Posted by: VIA, I Support Same Sex Locker Rooms, and Mixed Sex Marriage at October 20, 2022 12:11 PM (uLr+K)
He said he wouln't have run if politicians were capable of doing things right and fixing problems.
Posted by: VIA, I Support Same Sex Locker Rooms, and Mixed Sex Marriage at October 20, 2022 12:11 PM (uLr+K)
He said he wouln't have run if politicians were capable of doing things right and fixing problems.
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 12:12 PM (Zzbjj)
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I am wondering about Malkin, she got awfully quiet the last three years.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 12:09 PM (Lzpvj)
She's now on the Unz Review, so hardly anyone hears from her anymore.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 12:09 PM (Lzpvj)
She's now on the Unz Review, so hardly anyone hears from her anymore.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 20, 2022 12:12 PM (7bRMQ)
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id Donald Trump consider holding Public Office as his heart's desire..or did he have a sense of wanting to try to fix what was wrong with our current path?
Posted by: VIA, I Support Same Sex Locker Rooms, and Mixed Sex Marriage at October 20, 2022 12:11 PM (uLr+K)
Probably both, but more the latter.
Posted by: VIA, I Support Same Sex Locker Rooms, and Mixed Sex Marriage at October 20, 2022 12:11 PM (uLr+K)
Probably both, but more the latter.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 20, 2022 12:12 PM (gL3uY)
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 20, 2022 12:13 PM (z4scr)
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Don't forget Joe Manx (I am not a cat)
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 20, 2022 11:48 AM (z4scr)
Yes, of course.
Thanxs Joe...and also for the one girl with the perplexed look...you know the one, in cut off jeans...
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 20, 2022 11:48 AM (z4scr)
Yes, of course.
Thanxs Joe...and also for the one girl with the perplexed look...you know the one, in cut off jeans...
Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2022 12:13 PM (anj39)
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And that Roman Republic had some pretty serious issues even before it killed itself...
Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2022
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It managed to last quite a long time. 753 BC to about 31 (?) BC? Even if the Republic could have been pronounced essentially dead after the Second Punic War, that was still about 500 + years.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 20, 2022
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It managed to last quite a long time. 753 BC to about 31 (?) BC? Even if the Republic could have been pronounced essentially dead after the Second Punic War, that was still about 500 + years.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 20, 2022 12:13 PM (J2vNu)
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311 Well, it obviously doesn't exist but the goal isn't to actually impeach the fucker. It's to get them to stop impeaching our fuckers for making phone calls.
Impeach the guy nine times and make a totally mockery of it.
Posted by: MJ at October 20, 2022 12:12 PM (zwDuR)
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It's just making it more failure theater. It's making it another "they're gonna get them in committee" inside baseball shit that no one cares about.
Fine. Make it that, but don't get all made when the people of America don't care about the crimes being laid out, especially after Biden doesn't get convicted at trial and "exonerated".
Impeach the guy nine times and make a totally mockery of it.
Posted by: MJ at October 20, 2022 12:12 PM (zwDuR)
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It's just making it more failure theater. It's making it another "they're gonna get them in committee" inside baseball shit that no one cares about.
Fine. Make it that, but don't get all made when the people of America don't care about the crimes being laid out, especially after Biden doesn't get convicted at trial and "exonerated".
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 20, 2022 12:14 PM (LvTSG)
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A lot of people (perhaps a solid majority) have the morals of a monkey in heat, and attaining a position of power is a tried-and-true method of facilitating the exercise of said lack of morals.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 20, 2022 12:14 PM (bW8dp)
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Joe BrokenBrain will not be impeached.
He is too valuable to both sides of the federal criminal cabal right where he sits.
He is too valuable to both sides of the federal criminal cabal right where he sits.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 20, 2022 12:14 PM (Yi4c0)
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Someone came by yesterday with a bottle of Aberlour 16. :->
Posted by: SFGoth at October 20, 2022 11:52 AM
Niiice.
Posted by: SFGoth at October 20, 2022 11:52 AM
Niiice.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 20, 2022 12:14 PM (gYoDm)
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The "adequate" actress (not my quote; It's from a moron on here) is certainly attractive in that picture and her eyes don't look like she should be in horror film.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 20, 2022 12:14 PM (vH/6k)
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I am wondering about Malkin, she got awfully quiet the last three years.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 12:09 PM (Lzpvj)
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My understanding is that she got cancelled/blacklisted on right media owing to Charlie Kirk -- but not sure of the details (I think it was after a fiery speech she gave at CPAC or something).
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 12:09 PM (Lzpvj)
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My understanding is that she got cancelled/blacklisted on right media owing to Charlie Kirk -- but not sure of the details (I think it was after a fiery speech she gave at CPAC or something).
Posted by: ShainS -- Now Jabbed & Boosted with the Nuclear War & Hurricane Vaccines at October 20, 2022 12:14 PM (K3TEc)
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 20, 2022 12:15 PM (yHsuS)
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>Did Donald Trump consider holding Public Office as his heart's desire..or did he have a sense of wanting to try to fix what was wrong with our current path?
Trump's heart's desire was to be fabulously wealthy and successful and bang hot dames. He made it. But he so loves the country that made that possible, he decided to step in to the political arena.
imo ymmv
Trump's heart's desire was to be fabulously wealthy and successful and bang hot dames. He made it. But he so loves the country that made that possible, he decided to step in to the political arena.
imo ymmv
Posted by: DB at October 20, 2022 12:15 PM (geLO8)
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298 Something odd, I just hit refresh and the computer said "this site wants access to your microphone".
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 12:10 PM (Zzbjj)
It wants to yell at you, what did it see you doing?
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 12:10 PM (Zzbjj)
It wants to yell at you, what did it see you doing?
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 12:15 PM (trdmm)
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 20, 2022 12:15 PM (z4scr)
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The Daily Daddario is early today because TJM won't be around this afternoon:
https://tinyurl.com/mr3vrppp
Anytime is a good time for DD.
Posted by: Candidus at October 20, 2022 12:10 PM (469KY)
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If I was with DD, I'd be early too.
https://tinyurl.com/mr3vrppp
Anytime is a good time for DD.
Posted by: Candidus at October 20, 2022 12:10 PM (469KY)
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If I was with DD, I'd be early too.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2022 12:16 PM (anj39)
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319 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 20, 2022 12:13 PM (J2vNu)
It also was dying of similar cross competing impulses and Caesar v Pompey embodied some of what is going on now.
Essentially the Gracchi brothers last names should have been "Sanders" and the idle rich families got debauched and larped as being for the plebes.
If you read too much on it in one sitting you get depressed.
It also was dying of similar cross competing impulses and Caesar v Pompey embodied some of what is going on now.
Essentially the Gracchi brothers last names should have been "Sanders" and the idle rich families got debauched and larped as being for the plebes.
If you read too much on it in one sitting you get depressed.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 12:16 PM (Lzpvj)
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Donald Trump specifically said he'll be president "if he's needed."
Said it on oprah's show a very long time ago.
Donald Trump specifically said he'll be president "if he's needed."
Said it on oprah's show a very long time ago.
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2022 12:16 PM (lMnis)
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328. It wants to listen, maybe. Anyway, it happened again
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 12:16 PM (Zzbjj)
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I could see Mitt splitting the baby and voting to convict but voting against any punishment.
Posted by: sven
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On impeachment, doesn't matter. It is a civil matter and the only punishment is to forbid future office. So a vote to convict is a vote to remove from office. There is some question as to whether that refers to appointed officials as was the English practice (Charles II was removed and executed by a bill of attainder, not impeachment) or elected officials.
Posted by: sven
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On impeachment, doesn't matter. It is a civil matter and the only punishment is to forbid future office. So a vote to convict is a vote to remove from office. There is some question as to whether that refers to appointed officials as was the English practice (Charles II was removed and executed by a bill of attainder, not impeachment) or elected officials.
Posted by: whig at October 20, 2022 12:16 PM (CXr4y)
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The nature of the discussion was after losing the midterms, what does the Left do?
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Well I'll guaran-dmn-tee you that not a one of them will contest the validity of the results!
(Dad gummit, I almost finished typing that with a straight face!)
*******
Well I'll guaran-dmn-tee you that not a one of them will contest the validity of the results!
(Dad gummit, I almost finished typing that with a straight face!)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 20, 2022 12:16 PM (kXYt5)
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315 I am wondering about Malkin, she got awfully quiet the last three years.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 12:09 PM (Lzpvj)
She's now on the Unz Review, so hardly anyone hears from her anymore.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 20, 2022 12:12 PM (7bRMQ)
And Vdare. Currently 3rd article down on the articles page.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 12:09 PM (Lzpvj)
She's now on the Unz Review, so hardly anyone hears from her anymore.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 20, 2022 12:12 PM (7bRMQ)
And Vdare. Currently 3rd article down on the articles page.
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at October 20, 2022 12:16 PM (6vA7M)
Posted by: Cincinnatus at October 20, 2022 12:16 PM (eOEVl)
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"Just for background, I have "The Patriot" on."
One can go to Cypress Gardens near Monck's Corner S.C. and walk across Patriot's Bridge, and poke with your ore and find the underwater gravel path layed down for the filming, to allow the horses to run across the swamp.
One can go to Cypress Gardens near Monck's Corner S.C. and walk across Patriot's Bridge, and poke with your ore and find the underwater gravel path layed down for the filming, to allow the horses to run across the swamp.
Posted by: VIA, I Support Same Sex Locker Rooms, and Mixed Sex Marriage at October 20, 2022 12:16 PM (uLr+K)
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1) Boys, not girls.
2) Apparently a 10-year-old is now a "teen".
3) Looks like they were engaging in the scam of aggressively shaking down the customers to "buy" their "products", with adult scammers close by to supervise.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 20, 2022 12:10 PM (bW8dp)
Ah. Found it. Plano, Texas. Pity there were no concealed carriers in the shop. Couple of those thugs needed hot lead therapy.
2) Apparently a 10-year-old is now a "teen".
3) Looks like they were engaging in the scam of aggressively shaking down the customers to "buy" their "products", with adult scammers close by to supervise.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 20, 2022 12:10 PM (bW8dp)
Ah. Found it. Plano, Texas. Pity there were no concealed carriers in the shop. Couple of those thugs needed hot lead therapy.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 20, 2022 12:17 PM (n2g9L)
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The "adequate" actress (not my quote; It's from a moron on here) is certainly attractive in that picture and her eyes don't look like she should be in horror film.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 20, 2022
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What comment was that from? What I mean is, where can I find said picture?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 20, 2022
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What comment was that from? What I mean is, where can I find said picture?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 20, 2022 12:17 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Soothsayer at October 20, 2022 12:17 PM (lMnis)
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334 Posted by: whig at October 20, 2022 12:16 PM (CXr4y)
Sure it is....
Return with censure....
//Beijing Billy
Sure it is....
Return with censure....
//Beijing Billy
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 12:17 PM (Lzpvj)
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336. Her cousin vanishing seemed like an important factor
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 12:18 PM (Zzbjj)
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It was Charles I who was executed, not Charles II.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 20, 2022 12:18 PM (PTVZy)
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It was Charles I who was executed, not Charles II.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 20, 2022 12:18 PM (PTVZy)
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Trump's heart's desire was to be fabulously wealthy and successful and bang hot dames. He made it. But he so loves the country that made that possible, he decided to step in to the political arena.
imo ymmv
Posted by: DB
I think this is 100% correct. He lived the dream and wanted everyone else to be able to as well, instead of just a chosen few whose dreams are powered by everyone else's misery.
Blessed Donald, Martyr for the People.
imo ymmv
Posted by: DB
I think this is 100% correct. He lived the dream and wanted everyone else to be able to as well, instead of just a chosen few whose dreams are powered by everyone else's misery.
Blessed Donald, Martyr for the People.
Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at October 20, 2022 12:18 PM (OUMaO)
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"No dictator, no invader, can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against that power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The [invaders] learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free."
- a fictional character named G'Kar, from the show Babylon 5
- a fictional character named G'Kar, from the show Babylon 5
Posted by: pkudude99 at October 20, 2022 12:18 PM (Vt5Xn)
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My understanding is that she got cancelled/blacklisted on right media...
Posted by: ShainS
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No body can cancel Malkin. Fox didn't can her she canned Fox. She can start up another fire breather any time she chooses.
Posted by: ShainS
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No body can cancel Malkin. Fox didn't can her she canned Fox. She can start up another fire breather any time she chooses.
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 20, 2022 12:18 PM (z4scr)
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And Vdare. Currently 3rd article down on the articles page.
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at October 20, 2022 12:16 PM (6vA7M)
That hateful, racist site!!!!!???
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at October 20, 2022 12:16 PM (6vA7M)
That hateful, racist site!!!!!???
Posted by: Leftists at October 20, 2022 12:18 PM (7bRMQ)
Posted by: VIA, I Support Same Sex Locker Rooms, and Mixed Sex Marriage at October 20, 2022 12:18 PM (uLr+K)
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316 id Donald Trump consider holding Public Office as his heart's desire..or did he have a sense of wanting to try to fix what was wrong with our current path?
Posted by: VIA, I Support Same Sex Locker Rooms, and Mixed Sex Marriage at October 20, 2022 12:11 PM (uLr+K)
Probably both, but more the latter.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 20, 2022 12:12 PM (gL3uY)
Both Donald Trump and Ronald Reagan before him had long, successful careers doing the work they loved; Real Estate and Film, respectively. It was only *after* those careers had concluded that those men became involved, in politics, because they wanted to reform the terrible things they saw happening.
Compare to leeches like Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, or Fetterman, who each have *never* held a job that was not a Government patronage job.
Posted by: VIA, I Support Same Sex Locker Rooms, and Mixed Sex Marriage at October 20, 2022 12:11 PM (uLr+K)
Probably both, but more the latter.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 20, 2022 12:12 PM (gL3uY)
Both Donald Trump and Ronald Reagan before him had long, successful careers doing the work they loved; Real Estate and Film, respectively. It was only *after* those careers had concluded that those men became involved, in politics, because they wanted to reform the terrible things they saw happening.
Compare to leeches like Bernie Sanders, Joe Biden, or Fetterman, who each have *never* held a job that was not a Government patronage job.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 20, 2022 12:19 PM (trdmm)
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343 Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 12:18 PM (Zzbjj)
I am not flaming on her, she made her money and was worn out.
Malkin has more balls at breakfast than Ed and AP have by midnight snack.
I am not flaming on her, she made her money and was worn out.
Malkin has more balls at breakfast than Ed and AP have by midnight snack.
Posted by: sven at October 20, 2022 12:19 PM (Lzpvj)
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It was Charles I who was executed, not Charles II.
Posted by: Amy Schumer at October 20, 2022 12:19 PM (flINI)
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at October 20, 2022 12:20 PM (6vA7M)
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 20, 2022 12:20 PM (z4scr)
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ace is up.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 20, 2022 12:20 PM (CwQXo)
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"Released a missile"
Bwhahahahaha!!!!
Sure they did.
Oops! I pressed this trigger thingie and, well, it just fell off. Oh, I s'pose the little motor ignited and the missile flew away, but it wasn't like I was actually shooting, ya know.
Fu*king media.
Bwhahahahaha!!!!
Sure they did.
Oops! I pressed this trigger thingie and, well, it just fell off. Oh, I s'pose the little motor ignited and the missile flew away, but it wasn't like I was actually shooting, ya know.
Fu*king media.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 20, 2022 12:20 PM (anj39)
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That hateful, racist site!!!!!???
Posted by: Leftists at October 20, 2022 12:18 PM (7bRMQ)
My jewish relatives tell me Unz is anti-semitic ...
Posted by: Leftists at October 20, 2022 12:18 PM (7bRMQ)
My jewish relatives tell me Unz is anti-semitic ...
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at October 20, 2022 12:21 PM (6vA7M)
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Article II Section. 4.
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
not sure if 'civil officers' = elected officials
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.
not sure if 'civil officers' = elected officials
Posted by: DB at October 20, 2022 12:21 PM (geLO8)
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Well said DiF.
Posted by: Bosk at October 20, 2022 12:21 PM (v4L7Y)
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Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 20, 2022 12:17 PM (J2vNu)
Post 330. Adequate actress but pretty woman doing her modelling routine.
Post 330. Adequate actress but pretty woman doing her modelling routine.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 20, 2022 12:21 PM (vH/6k)
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My jewish relatives tell me Unz is anti-semitic ...
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at October 20, 2022 12:21 PM (6vA7M)
There's quite a few on the site. The guy himself? Don't know.
My jewish relatives tell me Unz is anti-semitic ...
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at October 20, 2022 12:21 PM (6vA7M)
There's quite a few on the site. The guy himself? Don't know.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 20, 2022 12:22 PM (7bRMQ)
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Basically, the commie cocksucker Donks are Gabriel from the film Constantine.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 20, 2022 12:08 PM (n+4am)
Well they're just as self-righteous, and the wrongness won't catch them until it's too late.
Tilda Swinton is a One to me, but maybe not if she's wearing a striped suit and tie.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 20, 2022 12:08 PM (n+4am)
Well they're just as self-righteous, and the wrongness won't catch them until it's too late.
Tilda Swinton is a One to me, but maybe not if she's wearing a striped suit and tie.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 20, 2022 12:22 PM (44ww/)
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The nature of the discussion was after losing the midterms, what does the Left do?
*******
Well I'll guaran-dmn-tee you that not a one of them will contest the validity of the results!
(Dad gummit, I almost finished typing that with a straight face!)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 20, 2022 12:16 PM (kXYt5)
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Make Election-Deniers Great Again!
*******
Well I'll guaran-dmn-tee you that not a one of them will contest the validity of the results!
(Dad gummit, I almost finished typing that with a straight face!)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 20, 2022 12:16 PM (kXYt5)
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Make Election-Deniers Great Again!
Posted by: ShainS -- Now Jabbed & Boosted with the Nuclear War & Hurricane Vaccines at October 20, 2022 12:22 PM (K3TEc)
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357 Flipski pickleski switchski.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 20, 2022 12:23 PM (lz5hY)
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Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 20, 2022 12:17 PM (J2vNu)
Post 330. Adequate actress but pretty woman doing her modelling routine.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 20, 2022
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Oh, the Alexandra Daddario pic. Very nice.
Post 330. Adequate actress but pretty woman doing her modelling routine.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 20, 2022
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Oh, the Alexandra Daddario pic. Very nice.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 20, 2022 12:23 PM (J2vNu)
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Yeah, Malkin was always solid, without regard to what happened to her sites when she sold them.
She fought hard for Trump, and the Right.
But it's a lost cause. We're auguring in. Why bother? Live your life, Michelle.
Yeah, Malkin was always solid, without regard to what happened to her sites when she sold them.
She fought hard for Trump, and the Right.
But it's a lost cause. We're auguring in. Why bother? Live your life, Michelle.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 20, 2022 12:24 PM (oINRc)
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Doubting doesn't make you "not a Christian" in all cases. As a Skeptic and former non-believer, there are times in some of my days when I doubt if it all could be true.
Some of us are just wired to assess things and humbly admit that we have been given no foolproof way to know all that is true.
First of all, Doubt is the way I came to faith. I first prayed to the Lord, making it clear that I lacked belief. But I said if could show me--or increase my understanding--or strengthen my faith, we would see.
Understanding, to the extent that I have it, took *years*. And so the Lord taught me during times of doubt to rest in faith. Over the years, I became aware that by comparing my situation to scripture, that a careful examination of scripture bore up under whatever I was going through.
Scripture never promises that *I* would understand everything, and so my frustration with not being able to put everything together and "understand it all" fit with that account. But the Lord had taught me enough new skepticism, that simply reverting to a lack of faith held no better promise.
Some of us are just wired to assess things and humbly admit that we have been given no foolproof way to know all that is true.
First of all, Doubt is the way I came to faith. I first prayed to the Lord, making it clear that I lacked belief. But I said if could show me--or increase my understanding--or strengthen my faith, we would see.
Understanding, to the extent that I have it, took *years*. And so the Lord taught me during times of doubt to rest in faith. Over the years, I became aware that by comparing my situation to scripture, that a careful examination of scripture bore up under whatever I was going through.
Scripture never promises that *I* would understand everything, and so my frustration with not being able to put everything together and "understand it all" fit with that account. But the Lord had taught me enough new skepticism, that simply reverting to a lack of faith held no better promise.
Posted by: Axeman at October 20, 2022 12:25 PM (krQz2)
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That is, in my opinion, the hopeful future. Not the reclamation of the US Federal Government - it is beyond repair - but the development of areas that can go their own ways when the inevitable failure of the United States finally manifests. Such an action could trigger that failure - or breathe new life into the carcass and finally finish us off - but strong localities and a healthy dose of nullification may well be a decent defense.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2022 11:15 AM (b6YLE)
So much THIS.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 20, 2022 11:15 AM (b6YLE)
So much THIS.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 20, 2022 12:33 PM (BdMk6)
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Even a barely religious person such as I can't deny the historical evidence that Man always rises up to throw off the yoke of oppression.
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Ah, you believe that was Man.
I mean, it could be. The visible part was Man.
But then again, "inalienable rights" when I can just throw you in a gulag, are not a visible part of that. And Man often enough throws off one yoke of oppression to create one suited more to their liking.
To be blunt: do you know the "Mankind" that you believe in exists?
I think this is one of the big problems with atheism--it definitely was with mine, when the Holy Spirit confronted me about my "Skepticism"
A large atheist sector of humanity--who "believe in Science"--has now maneuvered Science into a device of authority. It cannot be the same free and self-correcting discipline that its gurus, like Sagan, used to claim it was.
A cudgel must be fixed, not flexible. You can't beat people up with Science in a political sphere and then claim that Science is this extra-political transcendent force that resides outside of Man.
Does the "Mankind" that you believe in exist?
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Ah, you believe that was Man.
I mean, it could be. The visible part was Man.
But then again, "inalienable rights" when I can just throw you in a gulag, are not a visible part of that. And Man often enough throws off one yoke of oppression to create one suited more to their liking.
To be blunt: do you know the "Mankind" that you believe in exists?
I think this is one of the big problems with atheism--it definitely was with mine, when the Holy Spirit confronted me about my "Skepticism"
A large atheist sector of humanity--who "believe in Science"--has now maneuvered Science into a device of authority. It cannot be the same free and self-correcting discipline that its gurus, like Sagan, used to claim it was.
A cudgel must be fixed, not flexible. You can't beat people up with Science in a political sphere and then claim that Science is this extra-political transcendent force that resides outside of Man.
Does the "Mankind" that you believe in exist?
Posted by: Axeman at October 20, 2022 12:38 PM (krQz2)
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There's quite a few on the site. The guy himself? Don't know.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 20, 2022 12:22 PM (7bRMQ)
Unz is jewish.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at October 20, 2022 12:22 PM (7bRMQ)
Unz is jewish.
Posted by: You Really Don't Want to Know at October 20, 2022 12:40 PM (6vA7M)
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Something odd, I just hit refresh and the computer said "this site wants access to your microphone".
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 12:10 PM (Zzbjj)
Damn. Sorry 'bout that. My mistake. Sorry. Crap. I'm the vacation relief for Bob
Posted by: CN at October 20, 2022 12:10 PM (Zzbjj)
Damn. Sorry 'bout that. My mistake. Sorry. Crap. I'm the vacation relief for Bob
Posted by: Steve from NSA. at October 20, 2022 12:45 PM (Zvtjl)
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Leavers who retain their citizenship continue to contribute to the problem.
Posted by: Fox2! at October 20, 2022 12:45 PM (qyH+l)
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I am hopeful that the collective voters send a really strong message and vote out Dems, even in Blue strongholds. That might have the effect of moderating some of the less ideological Dems like Manchin or Sinema, forcing them to vote for more oil and gas production, closing the borders and refusing to endorse mandates and the unending war with Ukraine and Russia. But we are dealing with the GOPe and Nevertrumpers as well. Sigh
Posted by: Czech Chick at October 20, 2022 11:52 AM (haWye)
We forget that the Chicoms own probably 60% of congress also.
Posted by: Czech Chick at October 20, 2022 11:52 AM (haWye)
We forget that the Chicoms own probably 60% of congress also.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 20, 2022 12:48 PM (BdMk6)
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Somebody read this to McCarthy and McConnell, and explain the big words to them as required.
Then fire them!
Then fire them!
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at October 20, 2022 12:58 PM (peWy1)
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I can not envision a way that the Left can win their quest for power. The deck is stacked against them, and no amount of tyranny, secret police, or indoctrination will allow them to succeed. God has granted to Men the Right to Liberty. That core burning desire for freedom can not be abridged by the tyranny of Men, because it is granted by God.
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Yep, and that slimy commie race-baiting bastard Obama (quoting MLK) was right about one thing: the arc of history does bend toward justice. But it bends towards real justice, not "social" justice. And Obama and Biden and the rest of their co-conspirators will eventually find themselves on the ash-heap of history, along with all the other murderous, power-mad tyrants who tried to squelch man's natural desire for, and God-given right to, freedom.
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Yep, and that slimy commie race-baiting bastard Obama (quoting MLK) was right about one thing: the arc of history does bend toward justice. But it bends towards real justice, not "social" justice. And Obama and Biden and the rest of their co-conspirators will eventually find themselves on the ash-heap of history, along with all the other murderous, power-mad tyrants who tried to squelch man's natural desire for, and God-given right to, freedom.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at October 20, 2022 01:11 PM (MvHI3)
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"...If I were a betting man, I'd say if this story gains traction, Meek will be found dead, buck naked (except for a MAGA hat) in a seedy French hotel, surrounded by two dead catamites along with a suitcase full of documents linking him either to the Mossad or the Saudi intelligence services. The photos will resemble that of the aftermath of the Mar-a-Lago raid. The cherry on top will be abject criminal scumbags like Peter Strzok spouting the party line that Meek was trafficking in phony disinformation. A "dossier" if you will..."
Reminds me of the TV show 'Restless', "A young woman finds out that her mother worked as a spy for the British Secret Service during World War II and has been on the run ever since."
Two instances of suicide, one a KGB defector and the other a UK Secret Service supervisor, both in the US. The supervisor, who was last, commented to the heroine, on the defector's suicide. Door and windows locked, suicide note. If it looks like a grade A unmistakable suicide, it probably isn't.
Reminds me of the TV show 'Restless', "A young woman finds out that her mother worked as a spy for the British Secret Service during World War II and has been on the run ever since."
Two instances of suicide, one a KGB defector and the other a UK Secret Service supervisor, both in the US. The supervisor, who was last, commented to the heroine, on the defector's suicide. Door and windows locked, suicide note. If it looks like a grade A unmistakable suicide, it probably isn't.
Posted by: Davod at October 20, 2022 05:00 PM (fGRf+)
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Posted by: Regina Scott at October 21, 2022 02:35 AM (ECqmb)
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By the way, Fordham University is doubling down on their vaccine mandate. Despite the protests, from the faculty, staff, students, and parents. Fordham's VP of Administration Marco Valera just sent out an email get the jab by Nov 1st, or you're done.
The really nasty part is that they came up with this requirement in the middle of the semester, after ad/drop. So if you leave, no refunds.
The really nasty part is that they came up with this requirement in the middle of the semester, after ad/drop. So if you leave, no refunds.
Posted by: Iblis at October 21, 2022 09:51 AM (9221z)
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