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She-Hulk Actress and Showrunner: We Made The Show Just to Troll and Insult The MCU's Declining Number of Male Fans
The world's longest, most expensive Twitter insult. In the last episode of She-Hulk, She-Hulk exited the show to climb over Disney Plus' navigation screen, then crawled into a Behind-the-Scenes featurette to complain that a show about superheroes -- a genre marked by personal One V. One combats, with some team-up fights (much like Lucha Libre wrestling matches) -- should not have a big fight at the end because that is too cliched and instead should just have a family having a picnic at the end and talking about what they've learned. Oh, and the villians turned out to be -- hold on to your seats -- Toxic Male Incels/Anti-Gamergate internet trolls. The almost-all-female writers room is giving each other clumsy high fives over failing to complete the actual homework assignment, instead turning in an extremely preachy, abrasive, and misandrist feminist talking point babble-show. And they just couldn't be more proud that they'd spited the audience and refused to give them what they want. Men! So demanding!
Those "plot lines" were the plot lines you ladies set up earlier in the season. And now you're like "Oh these are stupid plot lines"? Why didn't you write better plot lines, ladies?
Throughout "She-Hulk: Attorney at Law," Jennifer Walters, aka She-Hulk (Tatiana Maslany), repeatedly breaks the fourth wall by not only directly addressing the camera, but acknowledging that she exists in a Marvel Studios superhero TV show. In the season finale -- pointedly titled "Whose Show Is This?" -- Jennifer smashes out of the show entirely, jumping through the Disney+ portal to confront the writers of the show about why the finale is so needlessly convoluted with extraneous, nonsensical plot lines, including one about a cabal of toxic fanboys who troll Jennifer online about being a female superhero who doesn't deserve her powers.
Eventually, Jennifer confronts the one in charge -- no, not Marvel Studios chief Kevin Feige, but K.E.V.I.N. (or Knowledge Enhanced Visual Interconnectivity Nexus), a sentient robot armed with "the most advanced entertainment algorithm in the world."Hilarz, ladies. At the end She-Hulk pleaded her case to K.E.V.I.N. -- but he was a robot, not a man. A Stronk Emkpowered Woman don't need nothin' from no man! A robot with an ambisexual voice, maybe. A man-- never!
As Maslany, creator and head writer Jessica Gao, and director and executive producer Kat Coiro explained to Variety, Feige was in on the gag from the start, and even helped to shape his A.I. avatar. They also talked about the satisfaction they felt in seeing real-life online trolls use the exact same criticisms of "She-Hulk," the show, that the fictional online trolls on the show used against She-Hulk, the character.Ah, they didn't.
She-Hulk has been a popular Marvel character since the late 1970s. No one has complained that she's a woman in a "Male Superhero Space." What was complained about was that you made her into a nasty, shrieky, endlessly-bitchy, endlessly-complaining Affluent White Liberal Female (AWFL) Karen and depicted every male on the show, except for Daredevil (who you weren't allowed to ruin, and who Kevin Feige probably sent in real writers to write for) weak, incompetent, corrupt, racist, sexist, creepy, stalkerish, and evil. The only exception, of course, are the gay male character, who are just wonderful Besties to the AWFLs. Literally no one complains about female superheroes. The complaint is that Current Year women writers always -- always -- take these spitefully misandrist shots at men, to "make up for" all the misogyny they're sure must be in the comic books. But it's not. They wouldn't know that, because they haven't read any comic books. Even when asked to write comic books or a comic book show, they don't bother to read comic books to understand the Homework Assignment. They just write Young Adult romcom unfunny non-comedies with "meta" jokes attacking the genre they're supposed to be writing in. And no one ever corrects them or tells them to #DoBetter -- because they're so oppressed by the Patriarchy.
In addition to breaking the fourth wall, the finale tackles some of the exact same trolling comments that Marvel fans have been making. How did it feel to watch that happen as the show aired, knowing how the finale would turn out? Tatiana Maslany: Jessica Gao is a genius and knows about the culture we're living in and her position in it when she's writing these stories about a woman superhero.
She knows what that response is going to be. As a cast, it was delightful sending each other these troll responses, like "Oh my god, give them a week and then they're going to literally see this pop up verbatim in the show and become the villains of the show." It was thrilling.We're glad someone enjoyed it. If it was the feminist star of the show and the ten gals in the writers room, well that's only eleven people, but it's something to build on. The show was written to serve as pre-emptive Twitter Nuclear Strike against trolls they imagined would attack the 50 year old female superhero She-Hulk for being a female superhero.
Were you expecting to face the trolls when you signed on for the show? Reading the script, it was so true. There's so much resistance to a woman just existing in that space of superheroes.Weird that She-Hulk never experienced that when John Byrne was writing her.
There's always going to be that. I sort of anticipated it. It's why I also feel it's important. There's such an entitlement to space held by certain people, and to even exist as She-Hulk is like a fuck-you, and I love that.She means "the fans, current and former, of the MCU." The customers have such an "entitlement to space," and it was great to give the customers "a fuck-you." The show was written as a fuck-you. Literally, the whole show was written as a pre-emptive Twitter Snap-Back:
Did you have to dig deep for all of the Marvel criticism or just scroll through Twitter? One thing I noticed is that at the beginning of the series, I was getting a lot of nasty, mean comments. As it’s gone forward, that has stopped. I think it's because now they realize when they target us, they're playing directly into our hands. And we called it, which is pretty gratifying. It's so satisfying. Even negative commentary, I always interpret as engagement. If people are that angry, they are paying attention. I look at all of it as positive.The head writer's previous drafts of Jen Walters' attack on the MCU and Kevin Feige for their formulaic stories -- and to male fans for enjoying them -- were so barbed and nasty that Kevin Feige winced and made her dial the venom and hatred back.
Did Marvel give you any suggestions for the hate comments they get online? Jessica Gao: That conversation between Jen and K.E.V.I.N. is very much the relationship that I have with real-life Kevin and a lot of that is taken from conversations I've had with him. That scene was so much longer in the scripts. If they had let me, I probably would have written a 10-minute conversation of my avatar arguing with Kevin. This is probably the tightest version of what it could have been. There were a couple of jabs where Kevin was like, "OK, this is a little mean now."Hey fat pig, if you don't like this kind of story, why are you insisting on taking up space in the writers room writing them? As I've observed: Women do not like these forms of entertainment. They did not consume this entertainment as civilians, and they don't even bother to study up on the conventions of the genre as "professionals." They are here solely out of spite, to take away things that the men these shrill hateful cows hate so much enjoy. If I had to write a romcom, I wouldn't try to "subvert the audience's expectations. " I wouldn't make fun of cliches like the woman always falling and tripping when she first sees the guy she likes. I'd ask -- why is that cliche here? Is it here to represent, visually, how someone feels so terribly awkward when they first fall in like with someone? And I'd try to think of something else to show that, something not as cliched, but which serves the same emotional point. I wouldn't have the male character look at the camera and wink and say, "Isn't it stupid that these romcoms always have the female character trip and fall when she sees the male love interest?! How stupid! Boy ladies, you sure are stupid for liking this low-intellect, cliched crap!" But this is always women's attitude towards genres enjoyed by men. And then they want to be thanked for "Making it Better" or for "educating men." What do you hope to see from Jen and Matt Murdock's relationship? The show's ratings have been poor. The main actress was asked if they're doing a She-Hulk season 2 and she responded that no one had told her they were doing one yet. So... that's a no. People sign the major players quickly to do sequels if the first one's a hit. If it's not.... they just let the question dangle for years, occasionally claiming that they've got a move or show "in development." Meanwhile, We Had Rangz also had its season finale:
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: whig at October 17, 2022 06:32 PM (CXr4y)
Posted by: LASue at October 17, 2022 06:33 PM (Ed8Zd)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 17, 2022 06:34 PM (Wnv9h)
Posted by: Tuna at October 17, 2022 06:35 PM (gLRfa)
Posted by: Lament for a Fallen Nation at October 17, 2022 06:35 PM (LS6i5)
Posted by: Tuna at October 17, 2022 06:35 PM
You want to tell them, or nah?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 17, 2022 06:35 PM (Wnv9h)
Could you imagine a bunch of the drunken frat boys who fell into the Tennessee River with the goalposts on Saturday night rewriting Pride and Prejudice and then getting pissy when chicks did not like it? Me either
Posted by: Jmel at October 17, 2022 06:37 PM (bVhJi)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2022 06:37 PM (G/v5P)
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 17, 2022 06:37 PM (6WsnZ)
Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2022 06:37 PM (xhxe8)
And that they get ass cancer.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 17, 2022 06:37 PM (XvPQV)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 17, 2022 06:38 PM (roH4R)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2022 06:38 PM (G/v5P)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 17, 2022 06:38 PM (Wnv9h)
Posted by: LASue at October 17, 2022 06:33 PM (Ed8Zd)
Probably because you don't know anything about the comic book character or the series. Neither do I. I don't even know who Jessica Rao is..
I do think Ace should write a series for them. He seems to know what men would like and dislike in a female comic book character and series.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 17, 2022 06:39 PM (vH/6k)
Not nearly as hot as pre-Woko Haram comic book She Hulk.
Even back then, that character was getting a lot of flak from the Junior Anti-Sex League.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 17, 2022 06:39 PM (bW8dp)
Posted by: LASue at October 17, 2022 06:39 PM (Ed8Zd)
Posted by: EFG at October 17, 2022 06:39 PM (Ae67h)
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 17, 2022 06:39 PM (yikp0)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 06:39 PM (eOEVl)
Well "no."
Posted by: sven at October 17, 2022 06:39 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 17, 2022 06:40 PM (roH4R)
Posted by: It's me donna at October 17, 2022 06:40 PM (bs+z0)
Posted by: Mark1971 at October 17, 2022 06:40 PM (xPl2J)
Posted by: sven at October 17, 2022 06:40 PM (Lzpvj)
Apparently there has been a technical breakthrough, and the avatars will, in fact, have legs. Genitals can't be far behind.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 06:40 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 17, 2022 06:40 PM (bW8dp)
Posted by: EFG at October 17, 2022 06:41 PM (Ae67h)
Rings of Poo was not as terrible but still was stupid and worse took a huge crap all over the lore and original Tolkien worldbuilding. Rings wasn't good but She Hulk was catastrophically terrible.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 06:41 PM (Ivdso)
I'm telling ya, it would have been a hit.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 17, 2022 06:41 PM (up/3i)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 17, 2022 06:41 PM (Wnv9h)
***
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 17, 2022 06:39 PM (vH/6k)
So true. When my husband and I were in LA in August we saw two billboards on SM Blvd. for the She Hulk Lawyer. We thought it was a real ad for a lawyer and we were laughing about "who would hire her?" and "is her speciality Shrek lawsuits?"
Get off my lawn.
Posted by: LASue at October 17, 2022 06:42 PM (Ed8Zd)
Posted by: polynikes at October 17, 2022 06:42 PM (JFJ0Q)
Tatiana Maslany is pretty good looking. She was in some odd SciFi show that was so convoluted I lost interest, but she was pretty. I can't remember the name of it.
Posted by: Puddleglum in Pennsyltucky at October 17, 2022 06:42 PM (LUyqH)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 17, 2022 06:43 PM (Wnv9h)
I must say that the Mom character (Nazanin Boniadi) is incandescently hot. Other than that...
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 06:43 PM (eOEVl)
bring back 'married with children'. al and jefferson can get married, so i will have time to do something else.
maybe pbs can run 'the magic flute' with pete buddyglug as princess pamina.
coming soon! 'the marriage of figaro and dr bartolo'!
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 17, 2022 06:43 PM (kFrCu)
Posted by: fd at October 17, 2022 06:43 PM (sn5EN)
*****
Yeah, that green skin does work.
Go figure, but it does.
Posted by: EFG at October 17, 2022 06:43 PM (Ae67h)
John C. Wright recently posted a retrospective of classic John Byrne She-Hulk covers:
https://tinyurl.com/yuzmdewu
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 17, 2022 06:43 PM (bW8dp)
Posted by: Lament for a Fallen Nation at October 17, 2022 06:35 PM (LS6i5)
---
French actively courts abuse. He knows people will laugh at him and taunt him, and of course they are all racists and White Nationalists, which validates him.
It's really strange.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 06:43 PM (llXky)
Turn them off and leave them off.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 17, 2022 06:43 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 17, 2022 06:44 PM (kFrCu)
Posted by: rd at October 17, 2022 06:44 PM (Z32m1)
Remember the Hulk show from the 70s?
So in comics he had a cousin evidently an identical twin cousin but I digress he had to give blood to after an accident who was a lawyer.
The schtick was a controlled rage machine who wound up filling in for the Thing when he went emo and left the fantastic four and then a stretch as the West Coast Avengers strong gal.....
She has ALWAYS been "Duh Stronk Womanz" going back to oh 1977 or so.
Their entire angst machine is and always has been "fake news" there have ALWAYS been strong female characters in comics.
Posted by: sven at October 17, 2022 06:44 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: Eromero at October 17, 2022 06:44 PM (0OP+5)
Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at October 17, 2022 06:44 PM (qZdIZ)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 17, 2022 06:38 PM (roH4R)
You'd hope so since she's 100 pct CGI.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 06:44 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: HAL 9000 at October 17, 2022 06:44 PM (yikp0)
Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at October 17, 2022 06:44 PM (0aq9B)
No she is Blob an X-man villainess...
Posted by: sven at October 17, 2022 06:44 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: fd, still not gay at October 17, 2022 06:44 PM (sn5EN)
I haven't had dealings with any comic books characters since "Archie comics" which is not a disparagement. I did go to see the first "Spider Man" movie and I think Stan Lee was a really fine artist in the field. I just think comic books tend to be an art form that appeals more to men, except perhaps for "Archie" comics.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 17, 2022 06:45 PM (vH/6k)
Go figure, but it does.
Posted by: EFG at October 17, 2022 06:43 PM
Aw, yeah.
Posted by: James T. Kirk at October 17, 2022 06:45 PM (Wnv9h)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 17, 2022 06:40 PM (roH4R)
Hmm, not sure he needs super human efforts.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 17, 2022 06:45 PM (VwHCD)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 17, 2022 06:45 PM (Y2VIG)
yeah, that's the thing. Comic book fans really LIKED She-Hulk, she was one of the female characters that we admired and pointed to as being why we liked female characters, but not gender-swapped ones or obnoxious bitches like Carol Manvers Captain Marvel.
She Hulk could have been great, in the hands of a better writer. The concepts are interesting: take a character who doesn't really want to be a superhero, showing what life is like in the Marvel Universe, and make it a comedy. OK I can work with that.
But what they actually did was a bitchy, annoying slut who didn't need no man but slept with every one she could get, whined about how tough her life is, and sucked horribly at her job of lawyer.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 06:45 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Lament for a Fallen Nation at October 17, 2022 06:35 PM (LS6i5)
---
French actively courts abuse. He knows people will laugh at him and taunt him, and of course they are all racists and White Nationalists, which validates him.
It's really strange.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 06:43 PM (llXky)
Like Ace has said before: The Shame is all part of the KINK.
Posted by: rd at October 17, 2022 06:45 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: Eromero at October 17, 2022 06:44 PM
The hell you say!
Posted by: Susan Oliver at October 17, 2022 06:45 PM (3AR13)
>>I finally know what Gabe looks like. But I'm still not gay.
Don't forget, he drives a pickup truck, y'all.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 17, 2022 06:46 PM (up/3i)
Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at October 17, 2022 06:44 PM (qZdIZ)
You can see a condensed version with scathing commentary for free on YT by a bunch of writers better than the show has and presenters better than most of the actors.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 06:46 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Dr. Claw
yeah, the cgi version of that broad is 2 or 3 points higher on the scale than the real life actress.
Posted by: x at October 17, 2022 06:46 PM (ZC2go)
Veronica was pretty hot.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 06:46 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2022 06:46 PM (G/v5P)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 17, 2022 06:46 PM (dNqv+)
I may not recognize Mabe, but I'd know that truck anywhere.
Posted by: sven at October 17, 2022 06:46 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 17, 2022 06:47 PM (vH/6k)
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at October 17, 2022 06:47 PM (d9Cw3)
please ... lie to me if you must
they cannot be that pathetic
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 17, 2022 06:47 PM (w0NJk)
Better looking than I imagined but definitely gay
Posted by: It's me donna at October 17, 2022 06:47 PM (bs+z0)
*****
Eh...I can deal with that.
I'm not going to marry a sex bot.
I'm waiting for the Virtual Reality sex bot.
Posted by: EFG at October 17, 2022 06:48 PM (Ae67h)
This is all one big joke and at any moment, Funt is gonna reveal the gotcha.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 17, 2022 06:48 PM (9qSw/)
The tragically hetero David French.
//Mabe
Posted by: sven at October 17, 2022 06:48 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: Bubba at October 17, 2022 06:48 PM (4ZLnC)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez"
It's a signal. Trolling for phallus.
Posted by: fd at October 17, 2022 06:48 PM (sn5EN)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 17, 2022 06:38 PM
Should have been a Captain Kirk sock.
Posted by: Beartooth at October 17, 2022 06:48 PM (IP9GB)
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 17, 2022 06:48 PM (bVYXr)
Posted by: sven at October 17, 2022 06:44 PM (Lzpvj)
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You don't understand - nothing existed before they paid attention to it.
There is no history other than their life story. Mary Pickford was the highest-paid film star - male or female - more than 100 years ago, but these people have no idea, they think women always got paid less.
Liz Taylor was the first star - male or female - to get $1 million for a single film, but they don't know that either.
Oh, and they literally have not heard of Sigourney Weaver's Ellen Ripley because that was before they were born.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 06:48 PM (llXky)
But She-Hulk tried to make sense, and contradicted its self. The tone was all over the place, it tried to be funny and then serious, and then tragic, and then slice of life, and then whiny 30-something woman. And nothing would follow through.
The biggest problem, though, beyond all this is that everything Marvel puts out is part of their canon, it is all continuity. So now She Hulk has the power to rewrite reality by stepping into the Marvel Studios??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 06:49 PM (Ivdso)
It is the fuzzy dice and the foot shaped gas pedal that did it for me....
the man knows how to accessorize.
Posted by: sven at October 17, 2022 06:49 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 17, 2022 06:49 PM (w0NJk)
Posted by: EFG at October 17, 2022 06:49 PM (Ae67h)
And to make this post gheyer, ace adds the cherry-on-top super-ghey David French beating iff to the rangz.
Bravo.
It didn't even need garret.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 17, 2022 06:49 PM (ufFY8)
It didn't totally suck. Just mostly.
Posted by: wth at October 17, 2022 06:49 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 06:45 PM (Ivdso)
Its almost like these fem writers are secretly working for the other side. I remember Sargon writing about the second Star Wars sequel movie about the fem Admiral proving in the show that she was incompetent in her job and Poe was always right.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 06:50 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Lament for a Fallen Nation at October 17, 2022 06:35 PM (LS6i5)
I can tell you that was a better option than being force-fed remdesivir.
Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at October 17, 2022 06:50 PM (QYPq3)
Posted by: fd at October 17, 2022 06:50 PM (sn5EN)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2022 06:50 PM (G/v5P)
'You'd hope so since she's 100 pct CGI.'
What else could they get her to do in CGI?
One can only speculate.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 17, 2022 06:50 PM (roH4R)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 17, 2022 06:50 PM (kFrCu)
This is all one big joke and at any moment, Funt is gonna reveal the gotcha.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 17, 2022 06:48 PM (9qSw/)
Yep. Unfortunately, the punchline is it's all true.
Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at October 17, 2022 06:50 PM (QYPq3)
Yes I know Mary Pickford, hell Chaplain made sure Paulette Goddard did ok.
Moonbats and time have a neat relationship-the future is set in stone and perfect and the past needs a lot of work and rewriting.
Posted by: sven at October 17, 2022 06:51 PM (Lzpvj)
So... that's a no. People sign the major players quickly to do sequels if the first one's a hit.
===
Very true.
Posted by: runner at October 17, 2022 06:51 PM (V13WU)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 06:51 PM (MLrvz)
Wayyy back, almost to the beginning, 1940 or so there were really powerful, kickass women in comics. Why? Because the artists like to draw hot women and the writers wanted to write something new and interesting. The boys reading the books thought it was fun.
But here's the thing: girls used to love comics too. Old, old pictures, you'd see them all lined up reading comics together, it was universal with kids.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 06:51 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 17, 2022 06:43 PM (R/m4+)"
for ever and ever, amen.
no apology, recalibration, or course reversal will ever bring back a single nickel from me.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 17, 2022 06:51 PM (Y2VIG)
Posted by: DaveX64 - AWFLs smell like dryer sheets at October 17, 2022 06:51 PM (CxBsm)
Posted by: It's me donna at October 17, 2022 06:47 PM (
What a fag.
Posted by: Truman Capote at October 17, 2022 06:51 PM (Wnv9h)
Bob Montana, the Archie artist, was indeed good at drawing Hot Chix.
I believe that rumor has it that he did a fair amount of uncredited pinup art in his day.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 17, 2022 06:51 PM (bW8dp)
If these crazy people spent as much time and energy on their little vendettas into decent product they'd be successful.
Posted by: portlandon at October 17, 2022 06:52 PM (+oR7L)
And the Rings of Power themselves were forged out of order...What happened to the Rings for Men and Dwarves?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 17, 2022 06:52 PM (YIVH2)
Posted by: Lament for a Fallen Nation at October 17, 2022 06:35 PM
The Return of the Ungrateful Loaf?
Posted by: King Gidorah at October 17, 2022 06:52 PM (VrVjC)
Speaking of a long-established, powerful female character. Kinda spooky and frightening in fact.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 06:53 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2022 06:53 PM (G/v5P)
I have no idea what it is all about, but the BS light on my dash is on.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 17, 2022 06:53 PM (/1cnq)
Posted by: Ian S. at October 17, 2022 06:53 PM (zm+d5)
I think the height of this stupidity was Star Wars Mary Sue that literally had Carrie Fisher in it pretending that Carrie Fisher wasn't a major character 30 years earlier.
So stupid. Oh, and f*ck Disney for driving that fragile actress to her death.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 06:53 PM (llXky)
Dong count: ZERO
The season finale was really good, you guys.
I have criticisms, and the plot for the most part made no sense...but you know, whatever. It's not the worst thing on tv.
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 06:53 PM (MLrvz)
All eight of them.
Can she have little baby Hulks?
It's called a litter.
Posted by: wth at October 17, 2022 06:53 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Dennis the Menace's Mom at October 17, 2022 06:53 PM (eOEVl)
Posted by: DB - going.... at October 17, 2022 06:53 PM (geLO8)
////
was gabe taking the piss there?
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 06:53 PM (MLrvz)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 17, 2022 06:54 PM (BqFOC)
What happened to them being forged with the aid of Sauron (Annatar) and it being his idea? What happened to those gorgeous rings shown in Fellowship of the Ring?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 06:54 PM (Ivdso)
Which means that the writing quality is only going to get worse the longer it goes on.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at October 17, 2022 06:54 PM (Bd6X8)
It's gives you both a sense of superiority and world class stupidity.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 17, 2022 06:54 PM (9qSw/)
Only with her cousin, which would require incest.
Guest writer: George R.R. Martin.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 17, 2022 06:54 PM (bW8dp)
Posted by: Dr. Claw
This really needed to be posted with a Captain Kirk sock.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 17, 2022 06:54 PM (cdvGB)
so the tailpipes on the truck are amazing....
Mabe sure did have a good part picker....
"Flowmaster" baby
Posted by: sven at October 17, 2022 06:54 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 17, 2022 06:54 PM (Y2VIG)
please ... lie to me if you must
they cannot be that pathetic
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 17, 2022 06:47 PM (w0NJk)
French has been tweeting praise for the show since it first aired.
Posted by: Lament for a Fallen Nation at October 17, 2022 06:55 PM (LS6i5)
uh, that's not how anything works.
Basically, that fat asian chick in charge of She-Hulk is 200 pounds of bitter cope.
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 06:55 PM (MLrvz)
Posted by: portlandon
They're not looking to make decent things. They want subversiveness. They want acid to splash on the walls of civilization. They want to destroy the entire thing.
They aren't aiming for art; they're aiming for cataclysm.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 17, 2022 06:55 PM (IyrhE)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 06:55 PM (MLrvz)
With Marvel and DC under increasing scrutiny, and NOT making billions any more, it won't be tolerated. And remember, those so-called toxic man-babies kept Marvel afloat in the 90's and 00's -- malign them at your financial peril.
Like sports-fans, once they break the habit, the vast majority WON'T come back.
Posted by: acethepug at October 17, 2022 06:55 PM (pgqW6)
The biggest problem, though, beyond all this is that everything Marvel puts out is part of their canon, it is all continuity. So now She Hulk has the power to rewrite reality by stepping into the Marvel Studios??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 06:49 PM (Ivdso)
Comics can always make things un-happen, and She Hulk looks like the un-happenest thing error. I have no idea if Marvel will follow She Hulk into oblivion but its basically in the BatWoman joke category where the entire audience is hate watching streamers.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 06:56 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: portlandon at October 17, 2022 06:56 PM (+oR7L)
It is destructive of the medium and is literally burning huge piles of money in lieu of proper therapy couch visits.
I quit pop culture a decade back and I am not poorer for it.
Posted by: sven at October 17, 2022 06:56 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice, Big proponent of mixed sex marriage at October 17, 2022 06:56 PM (uLr+K)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 17, 2022 06:56 PM (ahox9)
One caveat: they do complain about male superheroes being turned into female ones, like Ironheart, or Girl Thor, or the dozen other examples.
Almost nobody was a Captain Marvel fan before she was put into the MCU. She didn't move books. She wasn't a beloved character, even before they made her really masculine-looking and unpleasant in the comics. People didn't hate her, they just didn't care.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 06:56 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 17, 2022 06:57 PM (cdvGB)
Han Solo lives !
Posted by: runner at October 17, 2022 06:57 PM (V13WU)
Midnight's Edge had a video yesterday that noted how one of the main points in this article mentioned by Ace, that the show predicted the fan criticisms, isn't even true. The main thing the show's villains constantly said is that She-Hulk didn't deserve her powers. That's not something anyone has said in our world since, as noted by many others, people loved the comics She-Hulk and were ready for her to have her powers. These are just coordinated phony talking points with no basis in reality. The real criticisms are as Christopher R Taylor wrote (I agree with it):
"But She-Hulk tried to make sense, and contradicted its self. The tone was all over the place, it tried to be funny and then serious, and then tragic, and then slice of life, and then whiny 30-something woman. And nothing would follow through."
Posted by: Cletus at October 17, 2022 06:57 PM (kLRrm)
The Three (Elves) rings were not forged with Sauron's aid, and thus did not tend to corrupt the wearer. Sauron did get his grubby mitts involved with the Seven (Dwarves) and Nine (Men), so those were bad juju (not to be confused with Juju Chang), and forged the One on his own.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 17, 2022 06:57 PM (bW8dp)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 06:54 PM (Ivdso)
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They did allow for Sauron to come up with the basic metallurgy required to forge mithril into an alloy. Something Celembrimbor, the greatest smith since Feanor, should already know.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 17, 2022 06:57 PM (YIVH2)
and now i must go back to working on my novel 'the gnats of wrath'
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 17, 2022 06:57 PM (kFrCu)
Posted by: DB - going.... at October 17, 2022 06:57 PM (geLO8)
I don't understand, while actually understanding. Fortunately these people won't be getting a penny from me for their misandrist efforts.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 17, 2022 06:57 PM (y3pKJ)
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 17, 2022 06:57 PM (BqFOC)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 17, 2022 06:58 PM (ahox9)
With Marvel and DC under increasing scrutiny, and NOT making billions any more, it won't be tolerated. And remember, those so-called toxic man-babies kept Marvel afloat in the 90's and 00's -- malign them at your financial peril.
Like sports-fans, once they break the habit, the vast majority WON'T come back.
Posted by: acethepug at October 17, 2022 06:55 PM (pgqW6)
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Yep, and a lot of midwits who think they are recession-proof are going to find out just how badly mistaken they were.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 06:58 PM (llXky)
Some criminal justice major says - hey- thank goodness I'm finally in a class with no legal shit in it - my son goes off - Marbury, anyone? Jackson's defiance of the courts over the National Bank? He's autistic but he ain't stupid.
Posted by: Boswell at October 17, 2022 06:58 PM (+Cgut)
Basically, that fat asian chick in charge of She-Hulk is 200 pounds of bitter cope.
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 06:55 PM (MLrvz)
Actually, I can believe that from the writer. Someone broken at the Woke Wheel of modern college really has nothing else to write about - no experiences, no history.
The fact that nobody spending the money wanted to put the brakes on this nonsense is the real crime.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 06:58 PM (eoQWY)
But, no, why bother trying something that might actually be interesting?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at October 17, 2022 06:58 PM (5pTK/)
Posted by: Boswell at October 17, 2022 06:58 PM (+Cgut)
Dredd Scott.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 06:59 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 17, 2022 06:59 PM (BFigT)
we also complain about other things too.
we complained that non-super powered black widow kicked too much ass, then she took too much damage. At least Gen X Hawkeye got old and stopped kicking as much ass (and he had an actual career arc, it seems where he went from soldier to sheep dipped to SHIELD).
we complained that Marvel and every other female hero is required by girl boss law not to have love interests.
and so on.
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 06:59 PM (MLrvz)
But they BS'dd their way into the job and BS'ed their way through each episode and to compensate, screamed victim and racism and sexism as a smoke screen. And Marvel spent tens of millions on this turd and has to eat the sandwich now.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 06:59 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 17, 2022 06:57 PM (bW8dp)
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Canonically correct, but all of that was not present in the show. Here, it was Sauron's ideas that led to the forging of the Three even though he did not touch them directly. The Nine and Seven aren't even mentioned (and were forged first).
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 17, 2022 06:59 PM (YIVH2)
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 17, 2022 06:59 PM (z+OQR)
Green is the colour of envy and of the Wicked Witch of the West.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 06:59 PM (fWkSd)
I think next year.
131 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 06:56 PM (Ivdso)
Gender bending and race swapping is an attack on culture. You know who the female Thor is in Marvel Valkyrie.
You know who the female Iron Man is? Canada's heroine Vindicator. They actually undermine the established with their own story female characters to knee men in the balls as hello.
If I want insulted and kneed in the groin I can go to a campus bar.
Posted by: sven at October 17, 2022 06:59 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 17, 2022 06:58 PM (ahox9)
That, at least is also true in the comic books. I'm not sure if she had black hair in the comix.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 06:59 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 17, 2022 07:00 PM (bW8dp)
>>Almost nobody was a Captain Marvel
The best thing Captain Marvel did was getting her powers stolen by Rogue, who was a very popular character but for some reason was largely sidelined in the cinematic X-Men films, same goes for Kitty Pryde.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 17, 2022 07:00 PM (up/3i)
Posted by: The Twonky at October 17, 2022 07:00 PM (sn5EN)
Posted by: A Concerned Citizen at October 17, 2022 07:01 PM (zcPgo)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 17, 2022 06:59 PM (YIVH2)
Per the show, there is no Nine and Seven yet. It was all about building the elf rings.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 07:01 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: DB - going.... at October 17, 2022 07:01 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 17, 2022 07:01 PM (kFrCu)
yeah, she's a bitch. she follows girl boss feminist codelore. She apparently hates the fans. The plots don't make sense. They can't write legal drama, comedy, romance, comic, or fight scenes.
the big fat asian thinks that talking about diversity is her only core output.
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 07:01 PM (MLrvz)
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 06:59 PM (eoQWY)
Indeed - the whole first half of or history is the conflict over man's law vs the law of angels...
Posted by: Boswell at October 17, 2022 07:01 PM (+Cgut)
Exactly, it could have been fun, but the writers were incompetent, hateful, and stupid. There were bits I saw where I went, "that could have been clever and fun" but their pacing and writing was all wrong and it fell flat.
Having She Hulk do the entire original Hulk TV show intro was pretty good, that was one of the few high points of the entire series.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 07:02 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 17, 2022 07:02 PM (kXYt5)
Posted by: Cletus at October 17, 2022 07:02 PM (kLRrm)
Their dads? Nah, just fucking with you....
👀
Posted by: Mr. Pink at October 17, 2022 07:03 PM (+1Ie+)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 07:01 PM (MLrvz)
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She got paid, so she wasn't wrong.
We'll see how the front office feels about future cash burns, won't we?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 07:03 PM (llXky)
Good for your son. Is he liking college aside from stupid comments from people on "Slack".? I remember you talking about his going to school. My son-who is also on the autism spectrum is enjoying college very much. He is interested in horticulture and agriculture. What is your son interested in?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 17, 2022 07:03 PM (vH/6k)
also, kate bishop supposedly had a girl boner for hawkeye but never even flirts with him? you know what that means.
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 07:03 PM (MLrvz)
Posted by: fd at October 17, 2022 07:03 PM (sn5EN)
I watch movies made in the 70s and 80s and think, wow, that would not be made today, no way.
But those are the movies people want to watch and still try to emulate.
Posted by: Czech Chick at October 17, 2022 07:03 PM (haWye)
Posted by: fd at October 17, 2022 07:04 PM (sn5EN)
Posted by: King Gidorah at October 17, 2022 07:04 PM (VrVjC)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 07:04 PM (MLrvz)
Posted by: kraken at October 17, 2022 07:04 PM (Vr12I)
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 06:58 PM (eoQWY) "
I suspect that they don't really care about money, as such, much;
it's all paper play-money, and someone else's, besides.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 17, 2022 07:05 PM (Y2VIG)
Yeah that was a terrific sequence of events and made for a really interesting and insanely powerful character. After the first couple movies, the writers of the X-men movies couldn't seem to figure out what to do with Rogue. Or Kitty for that matter.
You know who the female Iron Man is? Canada's heroine Vindicator. They actually undermine the established with their own story female characters to knee men in the balls as hello.
Exactly, these role of these characters already existed, and didn't need to be gender swapped to make them happen but crappy comic book writers and now crappy movie writers cannot seem to grasp that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 07:05 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: GnuBreed at October 17, 2022 07:05 PM (JOtiF)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 07:05 PM (MLrvz)
Like sports-fans, once they break the habit, the vast majority WON'T come back.
Posted by: acethepug at October 17, 2022 06:55 PM
Philly sports is hot right now. But when I hear 'sold out stadium' on the radio and it holds ~45,000 fans, I remember when the stadium they tore down because the locker room wasn't fashionable enough for the athletes held almost 80,000.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 17, 2022 07:05 PM (y3pKJ)
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice, Big proponent of mixed sex marriage at October 17, 2022 07:06 PM (uLr+K)
Posted by: fd at October 17, 2022 07:03 PM (sn5EN)
Lewis Pagett had a lot of stories in that vein, quirky but thoughtful. Look up a collection.
IIRC the twonky was a device from the future that started 'managing' the viewer.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 07:06 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 17, 2022 06:38 PM (roH4R)
Back off, that's mine...
Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at October 17, 2022 07:06 PM (BgMrQ)
Posted by: acethepug
...
yup. haven't watched a down of football in years. Maybe I saw a few minutes of the super bowl last year but I don't think so.
Still haven't watched No Time to Die, and James Bond was my biggest nerd fandom. Spectre was the Cancel My Subscription movie for me.
Posted by: Rich at October 17, 2022 07:06 PM (C1Zwz)
Posted by: kraken
I know, I got nuthin'
Posted by: DB - going.... at October 17, 2022 07:06 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: kraken at October 17, 2022 07:04 PM (Vr12I)
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The writing aspect is interesting to me, but until I saw the buzz here and elsewhere, I was unaware that She Hulk even existed. Most of these heroes getting their own shows are unknown to me.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 07:06 PM (llXky)
Posted by: ace at October 17, 2022 07:06 PM (C1Zwz)
Fuck that we are doing a rewrite.
Posted by: sven at October 17, 2022 07:07 PM (Lzpvj)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 17, 2022 07:07 PM (bW8dp)
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at October 17, 2022 07:07 PM (3Or4S)
well you missed an epic college football game last Saturday with Tennessee vs Alabama
Posted by: DB - going.... at October 17, 2022 07:07 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2022 07:07 PM (xhxe8)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 17, 2022 06:38 PM (roH4R)
Back off, that's mine...
Posted by: James Tiberius Kirk at October 17, 2022 07:06 PM (BgMrQ)
Sorry...
I just got here and forget to "control F" the Captain.
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at October 17, 2022 07:07 PM (BgMrQ)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 07:08 PM (fWkSd)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 17, 2022 07:03 PM (vH/6k)
Thanks Fen - he's in business school - accounting. He likes the black and white of it. It is or it isn't. But he has a hard time with the "freedom" of college versus the rigor and schedule of high school - you just can't give my son too much open scheduling - my son loves the comfort of a tight schedule.
Posted by: Boswell at October 17, 2022 07:08 PM (+Cgut)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 07:05 PM (Ivdso)
They may not know but they would reject them anyway...they need to pretend that nothing came before them.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 07:08 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: acethepug at October 17, 2022 06:55 PM (pgqW6)
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I don't know. I can only speak for me, and I am the only person I personally know who has dumped all college and pro sports. It's been almost 3 years now and I will not watch them again. But among everyone else I know? No one has dumped anything.
Cleveland Indians changed their name. Did that piss off fans? Nah. More people went to Indians games in 2022 than in 2021. Maybe there is some covid BS in that 2021 figure, but wokeness has clearly not been rejected there.
Posted by: Colonel Travis at October 17, 2022 07:08 PM (RG7Wy)
Also, I grew up and developed other interests, something that I don’t think some of these people have done.
Posted by: Akua Makana at October 17, 2022 07:08 PM (YkUJb)
He exists because Marvel writers want the Hulk around but cannot figure out what to do with him. He's too powerful and uncontrollable to easily write stories around. He's been that way in the comics forever, its why Stan dumped him from the Avengers after like 4 comics originally.
Making him less powerful but smart gives them the Hulk but not so much that he can easily solve any problems thrown at them, and gives Mark Ruffalo more screen time to feed his ego.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 07:08 PM (Ivdso)
Still haven't watched No Time to Die, and James Bond was my biggest nerd fandom. Spectre was the Cancel My Subscription movie for me.
Posted by: Rich at October 17, 2022 07:06 PM (C1Zwz)
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I like college football because it's so random and real. Yeah, there's money involved, but that goes back to its beginning.
I didn't like Craig's Bond and quit after the one with the ice chase sequence. Don't even remember what it was, but it bored me.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 07:08 PM (llXky)
>>seem to figure out what to do with Rogue. Or Kitty for that matter.
The thing that mystifies me about that is they literally had 25 years of stories to mine and mashup.
All they had to do was buy a couple of Omnibuses go to town.
But no, they can't even be bothered to do that.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 17, 2022 07:09 PM (up/3i)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2022 07:09 PM (PWvcU)
The only "heroes" are the ones resisting this.
Posted by: idiot protestor at October 17, 2022 07:09 PM (Mzdiz)
The writing is the weakest part. At this point Lucas' properly much maligned Howard the Duck looks like Shakespeare comparatively.
SHe-Hulk could have tapped in to a lot of good potential for the MCU artistically....hell she works with and against
Damage Control" the contractors who clean up and fix the impact of the battles in the shows....nah bro let's let me have a scream session instead say the harpies.
All this has accomplished is making me indifferent to bringing back Daredevil.
Posted by: sven at October 17, 2022 07:09 PM (Lzpvj)
I watched it.
I'm sorry I did.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice, Big proponent of mixed sex marriage at October 17, 2022 07:09 PM (uLr+K)
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at October 17, 2022 07:10 PM (Mzdiz)
And if she bothered to connect those two statements that she made, not five seconds from each other she'd realize that people stopped commenting ~because they stopped watching~.
Posted by: FeatherBlade at October 17, 2022 07:10 PM (BlLaE)
There's no excuse these days, from these studios, with these budgets to be putting out work that looks like a cutscene from Call of Duty II
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 07:10 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 17, 2022 07:10 PM (IyrhE)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 07:10 PM (fWkSd)
Posted by: DB - going.... at October 17, 2022 07:11 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 17, 2022 07:11 PM (R/m4+)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 07:11 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Azathoth at October 17, 2022 07:11 PM (wb1YC)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 07:12 PM (NlFlr)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at October 17, 2022 07:12 PM (+1Ie+)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 07:08 PM
The at least make him show some range. When was the last time Joe Fix-it showed up?
Posted by: King Gidorah at October 17, 2022 07:12 PM (VrVjC)
There's no excuse these days, from these studios, with these budgets to be putting out work that looks like a cutscene from Call of Duty II
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 07:10 PM (Ivdso)
Maybe in CGI but the Numenorian armor that was a sweatshirt with lines drawn on it in crayon is a disgrace.
Monty Python and the Holy Grail had better equipment and armor.
Somebody is stealing Amazon blind if they spent 60 million per episode.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 07:12 PM (eoQWY)
Step 2: Wait for people to notice you wrote a shitty show
Step 3: Say, "haha, I just KNEW you were going to point out what a shitty show this is!"
Step 4: ?
Step 5: Profit!
Posted by: NJ Class Traitor at October 17, 2022 07:12 PM (c1efv)
Wasn't that an Easter egg at the end of the original Guardians of the Galaxy movie?
These 'writers' could fvck up a wet-dream.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 07:12 PM (fWkSd)
Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2022 07:13 PM (pGP6W)
Good for him. Accounting sounds like a good field to go into. Son and dad worked out a schedule for when he has his classes and when he would study for each of them. So far it seems to be working out well, and yes, they (kids on the spectrum) do seem to like routines and schedules.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 17, 2022 07:13 PM (vH/6k)
Posted by: DB - going.... at October 17, 2022 07:07 PM (geLO
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Yeah, that's why I like it. Also - Alumni Band. Fun to go back and play the songs again.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 07:14 PM (llXky)
Candy prices up 13%
Me at Halloween: Sorry pissant. Blame Biden!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 17, 2022 07:14 PM (9qSw/)
well, it's not like they gave shatner a chance...
Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda at October 17, 2022 07:14 PM (oY6Yp)
Eff off! And take your crappy product with you.
Posted by: Darth Randall at October 17, 2022 07:14 PM (wl0CT)
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well, the problem is they nerf and buff the characters too much. That's why every action/plot element involved folks taking people from behind.
You know, the biggest cheer line in infinity war, at least, was when awakened thor showed up. Finally, a high level character who could do what's within his powers. Just like in the first avengers, they had Hulk smash and "puny god".
but they're not good at pacing these action points, eh? So, you get vision getting jacked from behind by the Children of Thanos...just to do the Capt America reveal.
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 07:14 PM (MLrvz)
Posted by: Azathoth at October 17, 2022 07:11 PM (wb1YC)
Who knows what they really think? If the proles hate it, they have to profess to love it. The fact that it is a one sentence "all great" makes me think they have no specific things they liked.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 07:14 PM (eoQWY)
Wasn't that an Easter egg at the end of the original Guardians of the Galaxy movie?
These 'writers' could fvck up a wet-dream.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 07:12 PM
I enjoyed the Pitch Meeting for that one.
https://youtu.be/3JGmGR9meNc
Posted by: King Gidorah at October 17, 2022 07:14 PM (VrVjC)
I keep being told how smart Ben Shapiro is yet, evidently, he can't be bothered to use a search engine to find out how shitty "538" is. The only thing evident to me is how stupid & lazy the "conservative movement" is.
Video: youtube.com/watch?v=zWOr4UWpyRk
Palate cleanser: People's Pundit interviews Kari Lake youtube.com/watch?v=PTgCphWkEhc
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at October 17, 2022 07:14 PM (MFZ8i)
Posted by: Ann
has to be the worst bond ever, including that laznby guy, every movie he has made should be recalld
Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2022 07:14 PM (pGP6W)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 07:15 PM (fWkSd)
Posted by: DB - going.... at October 17, 2022 07:11 PM (geLO
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For No Eyes Only
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 07:15 PM (llXky)
And the writers all but said exactly that when discussing the show. They hate superheroes, they think comic books are stupid. They put that into the mouth of their protagonist who is basically Gao's stand in:
Superheroes are "billionaires and narcissists. And adult orphans, for some reason" then she riffs on how Captain American was a VIRRGIN, can you believe???? What a LOOSOR!!!!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 07:15 PM (Ivdso)
Cleveland Indians changed their name. Did that piss off fans? Nah. More people went to Indians games in 2022 than in 2021. Maybe there is some covid BS in that 2021 figure, but wokeness has clearly not been rejected there.
Posted by: Colonel Travis at October 17, 2022 07:08 PM (RG7Wy)
I've stopped watching college sports almost entirely.
As to the Tribe...***sigh***. Most of the guys I grew up, and went to games with, made the change to the Guardians seamlessly.
I seem to be the only one who's still sporting Tribe gear.
Interestingly, they're all on board the vax train as well, and I was the "dumb" one...heh.
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at October 17, 2022 07:15 PM (BgMrQ)
Posted by: the big guy at October 17, 2022 07:15 PM (oY6Yp)
oh right, both Vision and Wanda had to get help from Capt America to take on the Dark Girl Elf.
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 07:15 PM (MLrvz)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 17, 2022 07:15 PM (xLqhd)
Posted by: Mr. Pink at October 17, 2022 07:15 PM (+1Ie+)
well, it's not like they gave shatner a chance...
Posted by: s
shatner would do taki before this hag
Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2022 07:15 PM (pGP6W)
You know, I did not think my opinion of those two could get any lower. Life is full of surprises.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 17, 2022 07:15 PM (dNqv+)
now I'm watching again- but to hell with the NFL. Roger Goodell fucked it all up. They broke the mold with Pete Rozelle.
Posted by: DB - going.... at October 17, 2022 07:16 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 17, 2022 07:16 PM (z+OQR)
Posted by: Capt. James T. Kirk at October 17, 2022 07:16 PM (roH4R)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 17, 2022 07:16 PM (dNqv+)
Posted by: idiot protestor at October 17, 2022 07:09 PM (Mzdiz)
It's fine to have some escapism, IMO. People will go crazy if they are thinking about how to resist 16 hours a day.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 17, 2022 07:17 PM (vH/6k)
Posted by: Nova local at October 17, 2022 07:17 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 07:18 PM (fWkSd)
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 17, 2022 07:16 PM (z+OQR)
I'll admit without shame: I thought Craig was great after Casino Royale. Then they kept making movies.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 17, 2022 07:18 PM (dNqv+)
Yeah some of the costuming is ridiculous, and the hairstyles are ludicrous for the setting and adventures they are on. They don't all have to look like Gandalf but for crying out loud where is the studio where Don Lemonlas is getting his perfect fade done every day?
I can give that a pass for a cheaper show but they have WETa and Lucasfilm working on the props and effects for God's sake.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 07:18 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2022 07:18 PM (pGP6W)
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yeah. at the time in 2005 we had no idea what a weirdo pillow biter he was.
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 07:18 PM (MLrvz)
Posted by: Eddie Murphy at October 17, 2022 07:18 PM (CxBsm)
they did, at the end of No Time To Die
Posted by: DB - going.... at October 17, 2022 07:18 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 17, 2022 07:19 PM (kXYt5)
Time was we could agree to disagree and use theater as a means of expressing a particular point of view or at least providing some type of tangible enjoyment. Now it's become the equivalent of people shouting at you and lecturing ad nauseum on their latest liberal sine qua non. Honestly, who would watch this garbage save some flaccid, pasty white, flabby she-men like David French and Gabe Malor, who've been castrated by their own lack of vigor and inner girlishness?
No thanks. I've got some paint to watch dry.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 17, 2022 07:19 PM (T0jQj)
Posted by: DB - going.... at October 17, 2022 07:19 PM (geLO8)
Vina due to the Talosians.
Mara as played by Yvonne Craig.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 07:19 PM (fWkSd)
Posted by: Planned Parenthulk at October 17, 2022 07:19 PM (iZb96)
* taps GAF meter thrice *
Nope. Still pegged at 0.0 for both She-Hulk and We Had Rangz.
In other news, it's still not too late to hie theeself to Texas, Ace for the TXMoMe.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 17, 2022 07:19 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 17, 2022 07:16 PM (dNqv+)
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Right, you pay huge amounts of money for a property - which you don't even use!
Why pay a bazillion bucks of you're going to turn in a storyline the animated 80s DnD show wouldn't have run?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 07:19 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Nova local at October 17, 2022 07:17 PM (exHjb)
Superman has a similar problem as the Hulk. In canon he is 100 percent unbeatable so there's little stakes personally. Only if you establish his care for humanity and people as individuals can you make a good story around him as he tries to eliminate collateral damage.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 07:19 PM (eoQWY)
I agree. I think he did good enough in Casino Royale, but after that it was downhill pretty bad. The problem is that the people writing his movies, including CR, didn't seem to even know what the character of James Bond was (hint: not Jason Bourne).
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 07:20 PM (Ivdso)
WandaVision got higher ratings than Falcon and Winter Soldier.
Posted by: Eric at October 17, 2022 07:20 PM (a2F+C)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 17, 2022 06:37 PM
Spock has green blood. I'm doubtful the Hulks do.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 17, 2022 07:20 PM (a3Q+t)
Reading the script, it was so true. There's so much resistance to a woman just existing in that space of superheroes.
***
All of these mentally ill discount scrunts have convinced themselves in the constantly running script in their head that somehow it's been women buying comics that have kept all of these female characters relevant over the decades and not untold legions of young males.
Wonder Woman has been around since 1941 and that's not due to the wammen folk.
Posted by: Azathoth at October 17, 2022 07:21 PM (wb1YC)
Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2022 07:18 PM
"Quepla', p'thak, gahg. Sorry, I no speak earth opera, only Klingonese. Scotty beam me up, fast"
Posted by: King Gidorah at October 17, 2022 07:21 PM (VrVjC)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 17, 2022 07:21 PM (9qSw/)
people are fatter now
Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda, a well, rounded, individual at October 17, 2022 07:21 PM (oY6Yp)
yeah, if thor hulk and superman were so boring because they're 100% unbeatable, then how'd they make 70 years of comics
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 07:21 PM (MLrvz)
This place is where I come to escape reality.
I always get a laugh and since I don't have a TV anymore is much less apt to set me off shooting all things electronic.
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at October 17, 2022 07:22 PM (7rP4D)
Posted by: DaveX64 - AWFLs smell like dryer sheets at October 17, 2022 07:22 PM (CxBsm)
******
When they made her they forgot to throw away the mold!
Posted by: Muldoon at October 17, 2022 07:22 PM (kXYt5)
Posted by: K.E.V.I.N. at October 17, 2022 07:22 PM (aXxgO)
Yeah Superman isn't that tough to write, you just have to work around his powers. Give him threats that he can't punch. Make him have to figure something out, moral dilemmas he has to face, that kind of thing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 07:22 PM (Ivdso)
Supergirl ghosted me. Minor complaint, but still.
Posted by: gp In The Center Of A Stool Boom at October 17, 2022 07:22 PM (24fqN)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 06:54 PM (Ivdso)
I saw the three elven rangs on Nerdrotic's latest vid, and they no shit liked like they were straight from the Cracker Jack box. The ones from the Jackson trilogy prologue were infinitely better looking. This is what they got for $60 million per episode? I think they better do some auditing.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen at October 17, 2022 07:22 PM (CiSRQ)
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 07:19 PM (eoQWY)
Nah, they gave him magic vulnerability, kryptonite, not great brains, and a heart of gold - easily beatable by Batman over and over, and thus why they are great buds...
Posted by: Nova local at October 17, 2022 07:22 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 17, 2022 07:13 PM (vH/6k)
You are doing better than we are - I work a lot of hours at my job and my wife, saddened by the situation, just seems to not want to interact with him. He comes down to my office often during the day, lonely and looking for support. He threw his Cross in his room the other day, in anger and defiance, and then cried. He just needs time and love and support.
I worry about him daily - will you and your husband pray for him?
Posted by: Boswell at October 17, 2022 07:23 PM (+Cgut)
WandaVision got higher ratings than Falcon and Winter Soldier.
Posted by: Eric at October 17, 2022 07:20 PM (a2F+C)
Wandavision was world's better than F&tWS.
Posted by: Nova local at October 17, 2022 07:23 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 07:19 PM (eoQWY)
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The DC movies were stupid because you had endless battles between people who can't hurt each other. They fling buildings at each other without result - until somehow, that one thing does work.
Boring as hell, no thanks.
At least the 80s version has Gene Hackman.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 07:23 PM (llXky)
reminds to me of Marc Duplass just gave up in season 2 of Togetherness. Whatever, fuck you all.
Too bad, the obese asian girl couldn't write the fuck you any better than the rest of the series. Yeah, we're toxic boohoo, virgins who live in basements. Anything interesting to say?
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 07:23 PM (MLrvz)
Posted by: Aetius451AD
>It's not so much that the quality or production was bad. It's that everything was so melancholy and dark.
Bond was meant to be a swaggering dick banging chicks and strangling international criminals in a tuxedo.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 17, 2022 07:24 PM (z+OQR)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 17, 2022 07:24 PM (ppBhU)
It was pretty bad, but at least it was very creative and interesting to watch. It showed Wanda to be a lunatic monster who for some reason was treated as a good guy.
Moon Knight had almost no actual Moon Knight in it and turned silly but again, it was at least really creative and interesting looking, even if the story made no sense.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 07:24 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 17, 2022 07:25 PM (dNqv+)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 17, 2022 07:21 PM (9qSw/)
.......
Don't keep me in suspense.
Posted by: wth at October 17, 2022 07:25 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 07:25 PM (fWkSd)
So, catching lets you join the "in crowd." So misogynist, are we sure Jessica Gao isn't a male feminist.
Posted by: Lumpy at October 17, 2022 07:26 PM (yX7iI)
https://youtu.be/4HT7v-orQLw
XTC's song about what it would be like to date Supergirl
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 07:26 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Beartooth at October 17, 2022 07:26 PM (IP9GB)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 07:21 PM (MLrvz)
Not a historian of Supes, but he didn't start out this overpowered and they also invented about a dozen types of Kryponite to cut him down to size plus the 'must preserve human lives' directive. But there were many lean decades from the discussion of Superman in the comics ive read.
Batman / Spiderman and most of the rest of the stable are less OP and easier to write a conventional story about.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 07:26 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 17, 2022 07:24 PM (z+OQR)
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With a swinging brassy soundtrack! "Goooooldfingahhh!"
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 07:26 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Paul in Texas at October 17, 2022 07:26 PM (EG5bh)
Posted by: gp In The Center Of A Stool Boom at October 17, 2022 07:26 PM (24fqN)
Posted by: ... at October 17, 2022 07:27 PM (k1MLB)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 17, 2022 07:21 PM (9qSw/)
.......
Don't keep me in suspense.
Posted by: wth
I'll bet money it has something to do with six flags.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 07:27 PM (NlFlr)
almost all these tycoon billionaires are only really good at one thing and when they stray from that start to suck. Look at nearly every sports franchise for examples.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 07:27 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 07:27 PM (fWkSd)
Posted by: USNtakim deplorable, now with ultra maga at October 17, 2022 07:27 PM (ZMPCu)
This one is pretty good though
https://9gag.com/gag/aDY3bRd
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 17, 2022 07:27 PM (B0p57)
I am sorry. That sounds very hard. I will pray for all of you. Is there someone he could speak to at college when things are stressful. Our son is away at school and normally we have to call him.
Please feel free to write to me at FenelonDirection18 at sign g mail.com and if you feel comfortable write to me his first name so I can pray for him by name. Thx.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 17, 2022 07:28 PM (/MlgM)
Posted by: wth at October 17, 2022 07:28 PM (v0R5T)
Don't keep me in suspense.
Posted by: wth at October 17, 2022 07:25 PM (v0R5T)
Sorry. I thought I was the only one who didn't know.
It's a Texas company and refers to the six flags of Texas (because it's had six different 'loyalties'.
Mexico, France, Spain, Republic of Texas, Confederate States, and the United States.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 17, 2022 07:28 PM (9qSw/)
The winter falcon was just shit, just give buckey the shield and get over it.
I have thoughts on Loki. Why make an interesting show when you can make something so boring, George Lucas sued for copyright infringement.
Hawkeye was kind of a bait and switch. I was mildly amused by Iron Fist. Punisher was pretty awesome.
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 07:28 PM (MLrvz)
Posted by: SIx Flags at October 17, 2022 07:28 PM (sn5EN)
And I stopped Rings of Power halfway through an episode and haven't felt any urge to go back.
All these horrible shows. Why, Hollywood? Why?
Posted by: Beltway Elite at October 17, 2022 07:28 PM (XySbR)
Posted by: Beartooth at October 17, 2022 07:26 PM (IP9GB)
Well, there's an appetite for shows with an uncomplicated plot of good people trying to overcome bad events and people and winning. Hollywood has been subverting that in other genres for generations, SF and now Comic books were at first unpolluted.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 07:28 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 17, 2022 07:24 PM (z+OQR) "
Ok. So this description should totally be in the synopsis.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 17, 2022 07:28 PM (T0jQj)
For the one in Texas, it represents the flags that flew for the representative government of the state at the time. I don't know about the others around the country.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at October 17, 2022 07:29 PM (aXxgO)
Posted by: Beartooth at October 17, 2022 07:26 PM (IP9GB)
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Agreed.
How many times are we going to "reboot" Batman? At what point will the story have been told?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 07:29 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Beartooth at October 17, 2022 07:26 PM (IP9GB)
Since I watch a ton of movies, I could give you the arc for almost any genre - horror, rom com, animated, drama, supers, etc...
You don't watch the movies b/c you want some original arc. You just want some heart, escape, immersion, and a sensible story...
Supers can be great. Supers can be terrible. Just like any other movie genre.
Posted by: Nova local at October 17, 2022 07:29 PM (exHjb)
Posted by: AlaBAMA
Don't keep me in suspense.
Posted by: wth
I'll bet money it has something to do with six flags.
Posted by: rickb223
Or the lawyers insisted they add an 'L' to the name. either or.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 17, 2022 07:29 PM (IyrhE)
When Peter David depowered Hulk and turned him gray again he got a ton of great stories out of it. Guys like Daredevil or Batman are easier to write challenges for because they are essentially human beings.
But you can write some great stuff for powerful characters too, its why as someone said above that people have been able to write Superman since 1939. There have been some dry spots as you say, but some great stories, too. Particularly the Byrne run, for me.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 07:29 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Beltway Elite at October 17, 2022 07:28 PM (XySbR)
The workers who just made movies that the audience would like have died off.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 07:29 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 17, 2022 07:30 PM (T0jQj)
Which was to shitcan Tolkien's entire worldview of good versus evil and turn the script into Fifty Shades of Sauron with a massive dose of YouGoGyrl.
The rest of it looks like you explained the history of Middle Earth to a dinner theater director over a shitty phone connection and he used that to write a script.
Posted by: Azathoth at October 17, 2022 07:30 PM (wb1YC)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 07:31 PM (fWkSd)
Do still watch F-1 as my only sports viewing
Posted by: Skip at October 17, 2022 07:31 PM (xhxe8)
then Ang Lee's Hulk, he's 15 feet tall and tossing M1 tanks around...I'm like...things have changed.
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 07:31 PM (MLrvz)
Posted by: rickb223 at October 17, 2022 07:32 PM (NlFlr)
One of the blokes at Knight Watch I think nailed it.
The over-arcing theme is "You must do some evil to do good."
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 07:32 PM (fWkSd)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 17, 2022 07:32 PM (dNqv+)
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at October 17, 2022 07:32 PM (Bd6X8)
Eh, its like westerns or buddy cop movies, or spy movies or whatever. If its entertaining and fun, its nice to get away from life and like Oldcat notes, its reliably good vs evil with good winning, or at least used to be. People really like that. And its spectacle, something you've never seen before, or at least a fresh take on it.
I can't even remember who did the soundtracks for any of the Craig Bond films.
Only the first song was any good, for Casino Royale:
https://youtu.be/1iFnkW7HEfc
In my opinion, at least.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 07:32 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 07:33 PM (fWkSd)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 07:29 PM (llXky)
it was a mistake to keep including the origin story in every cycle. We know how Bats started off. Star Trek spent a whole movie doing the 'origin' story when we knew it already.
But there are many stories you could tell after the role has been established since everyone knows the good guys already.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 07:33 PM (eoQWY)
https://tinyurl.com/3963u7u4
https://tinyurl.com/3v77hyfd
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 07:33 PM (eOEVl)
I listened to it, and now I see I'm better off without her. Thanks!
Posted by: gp In The Center Of A Stool Boom at October 17, 2022 07:34 PM (24fqN)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 07:34 PM (fWkSd)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 17, 2022 07:34 PM (9qSw/)
Well, let's see. We need Black Batman, Chicano Batman, Girl Batman, Gay Batman, Bi-Batman, Androgyny Batman, Alien Batman, Dwarf Batman, Invalid Batman, Actual Bat Batman... so there's still a lot of material yet to be plumbed.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at October 17, 2022 07:35 PM (aXxgO)
well, to be fair, the world is kind of in a long peaceful day to day era. The numenoreons are doing boat stuff and making that cash. Elves are bored with chasing down Sauron and just want to elf orgy or whatever it is they do. Even with the traitorous southern folk, the elves are like "fuck it, you hicks, have fun, we're out".
only galadriel really ...annoyingly...stays focused. which is why they basically tried to kick her out of middle earth.
no one is doing evil, they're just not that into worrying about it
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 07:35 PM (MLrvz)
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uh huh. I think I saw this, just some dark brandon fan fiction
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 07:35 PM (MLrvz)
Yeah I think everyone on earth is sick of that damned alley and the pearls falling to the rainy pavement and on and on. Enough WE ALL KNOW. Just cut loose. I mean, nobody had to do James Bond's origins. There never was a "story of how Matt Dillon became the Sheriff". We don't need to know. Just give us the story.
For God's sake The Batman was like 7 hours long (or at least felt like it). Trim some back for the love of Alfred.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 07:35 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 07:32 PM (fWkSd)
Even if that's so, which I don't credit, all the characters are building up a lot of karmic debt without having done any good at all in the entire series.
Even the heroine is keeping secret the Identity of Sauron and that he helped make the Rings O' Power. And she connived to have a third one made for herself.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 07:35 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Oldcat
True except for the last one, Theeeeeeee Batman. It was literally the Year 2 storyline.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 17, 2022 07:36 PM (IyrhE)
Posted by: King Gidorah at October 17, 2022 07:36 PM (VrVjC)
Sorry, not sorry.
Posted by: DaisyB at October 17, 2022 07:37 PM (AbL8c)
But there are many stories you could tell after the role has been established since everyone knows the good guys already.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 07:33 PM (eoQWY)
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The interesting thing about the 1989 Batman is that it doesn't fall into that trap. Batman is already at large and the story is about him taking on The Joker. In fact, the film's mostly about The Joker, which is why I think it's the best.
Of course, I'm biased because I quit watching the new stuff.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 07:37 PM (llXky)
that will make the ALCS a bit harder to pull off wednesday...I mean fuck you guys yankees
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 07:37 PM (MLrvz)
I'm not ready to write it off that quickly.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 17, 2022 07:37 PM (eOEVl)
And how they mysteriously all have to get their shirt off at least once in the movie.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 07:37 PM (Ivdso)
Sorry, not sorry.
Posted by: DaisyB at October 17, 2022 07:37 PM (AbL8c)
How about my Bat Nipples?
Posted by: George Clooney at October 17, 2022 07:37 PM (9qSw/)
Posted by: wth at October 17, 2022 07:37 PM (v0R5T)
One of the blokes at Knight Watch I think nailed it.
The over-arcing theme is "You must do some evil to do good."
omelets, eggs, some disassembly required
Posted by: johnny five at October 17, 2022 07:38 PM (oY6Yp)
Well, let's see. We need Black Batman, Chicano Batman, Girl Batman, Gay Batman, Bi-Batman, Androgyny Batman, Alien Batman, Dwarf Batman, Invalid Batman, Actual Bat Batman... so there's still a lot of material yet to be plumbed.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna
Don't forget Batboy Batman!
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 17, 2022 07:38 PM (n+4am)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 07:38 PM (fWkSd)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 07:37 PM (Ivdso)
It's like Christmas morning.
Posted by: DaisyB at October 17, 2022 07:38 PM (AbL8c)
'Biden has lowered the boom on China's SC industry'
The only way Biden will ever get something right is by accident.
Posted by: Capt. James T. Kirk at October 17, 2022 07:39 PM (roH4R)
Even the heroine is keeping secret the Identity of Sauron and that he helped make the Rings O' Power. And she connived to have a third one made for herself.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 07:35 PM (eoQWY)
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Flawed neurotic people with no real concept of God or goodness can't write what they don't know.
What they do know is that to get where they are they had to cheat and do unsavory things to serve the "greater good" of their own advancement.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 07:39 PM (llXky)
Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda at October 17, 2022 07:39 PM (oY6Yp)
Posted by: wth at October 17, 2022 07:37 PM (v0R5T)
I forget what the six flags in question are, but one may already be the Republic of Texas.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 07:39 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna
Don't forget Batboy Batman!
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 17, 2022 07:38 PM (n+4am)
Ahem.
Posted by: Fat Batman at October 17, 2022 07:40 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: DaisyB at October 17, 2022 07:40 PM (AbL8c)
Actual Bat Batman... [/]
I think that's Manbat, not Batman.
bat manuel
Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda
Fightin' crime with the Bat Leaf Blower.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 17, 2022 07:40 PM (n+4am)
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 07:39 PM (eoQWY)
I listed them at 305
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 17, 2022 07:41 PM (9qSw/)
apparently, the GOP is going to impeach Biden and breakup the FBI. And they got it on film.
whooooo. they think this is going to help the donks?
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 07:41 PM (MLrvz)
Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2022 07:41 PM (A5N2/)
at least they didn't make the hobbits sparkly
Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda at October 17, 2022 07:41 PM (oY6Yp)
Some of their neighbors slowing them down and they are all down on stealing their cart wheels to abandon them.
If I didn't know better, they have made the Harfoots every negative stereotype of the Tinkers.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 17, 2022 07:41 PM (fWkSd)
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 17, 2022 07:42 PM (Zf0+a)
Now that was a hilarious superhero show.
As a woman, a show written entirely by woman, about grrl power and no hot men?
I think some of them might be considered attractive, but I am no judge. Daredevil shows up in a couple episodes from the Netflix TV show, for example. But they are treated as Bad People and Daredevil is humiliated a couple of times for a joke.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 07:42 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 17, 2022 07:42 PM (dNqv+)
whooooo. they think this is going to help the donks?
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 07:41 PM (MLrvz)
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Rasmussen has 53% of voters wanting Biden impeached. Not much of an own here...
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at October 17, 2022 07:43 PM (llXky)
The only way Biden will ever get something right is by accident.
Got me wondering if Biden in trying to bait China into grabbing Taiwan.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at October 17, 2022 07:43 PM (Bd6X8)
Hell on earth.
Posted by: DaisyB at October 17, 2022 07:40 PM (AbL8c)
Daredevil is the best hookup she had, and she alters reality in the end to force him to get a return date and visit her mom and dad in a family setting.
Even when they mock him enough reality intrudes to show what they really think of themselves.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 07:43 PM (eoQWY)
The reason I know this is false is because there's zero chance that the Republican leadership has the slightest inclination to do either of those things. The might have gotten A Republican saying something like that on tape, but not the party leadership.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 07:44 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2022 07:44 PM (A5N2/)
Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda at October 17, 2022 07:41 PM (oY6Yp)
They made them more evil than the orcs.
Posted by: Oldcat at October 17, 2022 07:44 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 07:45 PM (Ivdso)
Not like these dark Joker type movies that depict a path to serial killer and mass murderer. Yikes!
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 17, 2022 07:46 PM (z+OQR)
Posted by: Archimedes
This never works. The cow has left the barn. The only solution now is to disengage with high tariffs on anything chinese. We need a new iron curtain. one that keeps thieving countries - and those who trade with them - out. The hammer needs to be dropped on every belt and road participant.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at October 17, 2022 07:46 PM (B0p57)
Posted by: confederatefifth at October 17, 2022 07:46 PM (A5N2/)
I thought their tough little feral community was interesting.
We Wait For You!
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 07:46 PM (MLrvz)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 17, 2022 07:28 PM (/MlgM)
I will write you - he was always a good, intelligent and practicing Catholic - he still fears God and worries that he is not right with Jesus when he becomes difficult. This is how I know he is a going to make it.
Posted by: Boswell at October 17, 2022 07:46 PM (+Cgut)
The sticks in their hair was a very odd choice, and they seem remarkably un-Hobbity.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 07:47 PM (Ivdso)
LOL, like this humdrum porridge on Amazon prime is the new Schindler's List or something.
French is, as always, ridiculous.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 17, 2022 07:50 PM (oINRc)
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a 1000 years from becoming snooty little landowners
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 07:50 PM (MLrvz)
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if they had brains, they'd know this was the shit that Rubin was splurting out during the 1/6 hearings.
like, is that the best soros can get for his money?
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 17, 2022 07:51 PM (MLrvz)
(It has been called "the big green book" )
it has a lot in it that underpins why the government was doing what it was doing with the national and states' banks
Posted by: Kindltot at October 17, 2022 07:54 PM (xhaym)
Posted by: Kindltot at October 17, 2022 07:54 PM (xhaym)
Wow - thanks for this Kindlot. I never knew this existed!
"The master teacher of American economic history covers money and banking in the whole of American history, to show that the meltdown of our times is hardly the first. And guess what caused them in the past? Paper money, loose credit, reckless lending standards, government profligacy, and central banking"
Order placed, thanks!
Posted by: Boswell at October 17, 2022 08:01 PM (+Cgut)
They want plain-Janes in coveralls.
The emphasis on cleavage can get ridiculous -- the Black Widow, for one, should zip up her suit before a fight -- but not every super-powered woman in comics is a double-D.
And, sorry, screechers, but some real women are shapely.
Posted by: Weak Geek at October 17, 2022 08:04 PM (Om/di)
Guessing every female writer on the show, even if they were only in the business a year, will become showrunners on their own show for next season.
Posted by: Rbastid at October 17, 2022 08:07 PM (XK7X3)
Posted by: butch at October 17, 2022 08:26 PM (KsXyd)
Posted by: NJRob at October 17, 2022 08:36 PM (h/3RR)
Posted by: NJRob at October 17, 2022 08:36 PM (h/3RR)
As real as anything else those recycled plastic dildoes normally crap out, I guess.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 17, 2022 08:38 PM (6FeV1)
Guessing every female writer on the show, even if they were only in the business a year, will become showrunners on their own show for next season.
Posted by: Rbastid at October 17, 2022 08:07 PM (XK7X3)
Putting the show on the air is itself the victory condition. Bad ratings + critical failure = Mission Accomplished. Society needs more beating over the head, you see? We Just Aren't Ready For Them. So keep osmotically sucking money out of idiot investors in exchange for hand-jos and polynesian minors, and you can keep shitting out these brave new failures any time you please while lining your own pockets quite handsomely. Because Progress.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 17, 2022 08:42 PM (6FeV1)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 17, 2022 08:43 PM (6FeV1)
Let that sink in.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 17, 2022 09:34 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at October 17, 2022 09:47 PM (dQfJF)
Except... the way it was done it was more or less very explicitly saying "This is stupid. Not all men are like this. Generalizing is dumb. Don't do it." And it was hilarious on top of that.
Sounds like the writers' room of She-Hulk could have taken some lessons from other wokies about how to not make a show as a big middle finger to all its customers.
And here's the CXG song, in case you wanna see it -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa_QtMf6alU
Posted by: pkudude99 at October 17, 2022 09:54 PM (lSQIK)
Posted by: SkylerKat at October 17, 2022 10:10 PM (9TbBR)
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Posted by: ShainS -- Now Jabbed & Boosted with the Nuclear War & Hurricane Vaccines at October 17, 2022 10:20 PM (K3TEc)
I know that you put some real work into writing this Ace, and I'm sure that its as entertaining as it is informative, but I really don't care about She-Hulk or generally other green females, regardless of how big their magnificent gravity defying bosoms are.
Posted by: Speller at October 17, 2022 11:15 PM (pSotA)
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Posted by: Ana White at October 18, 2022 04:20 AM (MGW8C)
We just watched the new Scooby Doo movie where Velma comes out as a lesbian. No big deal, as that's been a joke and matter of speculation for decades. What got me though was there were multiple instances where they made fun of the characters and show (and not in a fun or charming way nostalgic shows like Stranger Things have done). About halfway through it became clear that the creators didn't think much of the characters or the audience that typically enjoys it.
I know, I know, its only Scooby Doo, but why hate on and work on something if you seem to hold it in contempt?
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