Pfizer Executive to European Parliament: Why No, We Never Tested If the Vaccine Actually Stopped Transmission of Covid

Pfizer executive Janine Small admitted to a European Parliament Member that Pfizer couldn't test for this, because they were moving "at the speed of science" or something.

Catherine Salgado at PJMedia report that the Dutch member of the EU Parliament, Rob Roos, who asked this question is scorching hot about the implications of the answer :

Small made the admission in a video tweeted by Dutch Member of the European Parliament Rob Roos. The Netherlands instituted a COVID-19 vaccine passport in late 2021, and Roos emphasized in the video how much Small's admission undermines the Dutch government's justification for the passport.
"If you don't get vaccinated, you're anti-social. This is what the Dutch Prime Minister and Health Minister told us," Roos said. "You don't get vaccinated just for yourself, but also for others--you do it for all of society. That's what they said." But that argument no longer holds, Roos explained. "Today, this turns out to be complete nonsense. In a COVID hearing in the European Parliament, one of the Pfizer directors just admitted to me--at the time of introduction, the vaccine had never been tested on stopping the transmission of the virus."

Even if you concede that the Fierce Urgency of Now during the covid pandemic didn't allow for testing -- even if -- how can one say that the urgency also permitted lying about the vaccine's effectiveness in stopping the transmission of covid?!!

They repeatedly represented it would both stop the vaccinated person from getting covid -- wrong -- and also that it would prevent transmission.

Also wrong. But on this last point -- they never even tested! How can they make claims about the virus' supposed ability to stop transmission when they never tested for that, not even in a limited bullsh*t twenty-person micro-sample?

Question: Why hasn't this been asked before?

Watch as Pfizer executive Janine Small admits to EU parliament that Pfizer did not test the vaccine for preventing transmission of Covid prior to it being made available to the public.

Small says, “We had to really move at the speed of science..we had to do everything at risk.” pic.twitter.com/FvTn01zv3J
— True North (@TrueNorthCentre) October 11, 2022

It's not just that they didn't test to see if the "vaccine" stopped transmission. It's that world governments then claimed it did stop transmission, based on... nothing, but claimed The Science (TM) said it stopped transmission, and therefore they were justified in suspending human rights and coercing their populations into being vaccinated.

Pfizer, naturally, said nothing to contradict them.

🇺🇸Anthony Fauci on the vaccines stopping the transmission of the virus followed by Pfizer study on transmission (immunization) at the speed of science.

Find the origin of COVID 19 and you will find the origin of their BS pic.twitter.com/YqvIRdODZI
— La French ConAction..🇫🇷🚜 (@LFCNewsMedia) October 11, 2022

This claim was entirely untested and therefore unproven by "the science" -- and ultimately proven 100% false.

But they claimed "The Science (TM)" proved their claims.

Roos blasts world governments for basing totalitarian mandates on lies about "The Science (TM):"

🚨 BREAKING:

In COVID hearing, #Pfizer director admits: #vaccine was never tested on preventing transmission.

"Get vaccinated for others" was always a lie.

The only purpose of the #COVID passport: forcing people to get vaccinated.

The world needs to know. Share this video! ⤵️ pic.twitter.com/su1WqgB4dO
— Rob Roos MEP 🇳🇱 (@Rob_Roos) October 11, 2022

They straight-up lied to justify the imposition a totalitarian solution they preferred.

They do that a lot -- they continue lying about what "The Science (TM)" says, and what "The Science (TM)" justifies the government doing to you, meanwhile continuing to defame and dehumanizing people who point out that what they call "The Science (TM)" is usually just a totalitarian-minded bureaucrat's political talking point with exactly zero real science behind it.

Right now they're telling you "The Science (TM)" is clear -- girls are boys and boys are girls.

Posted by: Ace at 01:12 PM

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1 first.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 12, 2022 01:13 PM (bVYXr)

2 Woops, our bad.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 12, 2022 01:13 PM (bVYXr)

3 Rachel Maddow was missing for comment.

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at October 12, 2022 01:14 PM (ytSiK)

4 “We had to really move at the speed of science..we had to do everything at risk.”

That statement right there should absolve pfizer of any and all immunity claims from people who got the shot and died or had serious side effects.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 12, 2022 01:14 PM (bVYXr)

5 Rob Roos is a hot little potato about this.

Posted by: ace at October 12, 2022 01:15 PM (C1Zwz)

6 Need Nuremburg 2.0 already

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at October 12, 2022 01:16 PM (y8NK7)

7 Read the content...

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at October 12, 2022 01:16 PM (53oGX)

8 How many people dead, either from the Covid shot or Covid itself. Thankfully, the government gave Pfizer immunity from lawsuits, so there's that.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 12, 2022 01:16 PM (VWp7G)

9 I heard a good quality hemp rope is the best for hanging.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 12, 2022 01:16 PM (VaSD4)

10 “We had to really move at the speed of science..we had to do everything at risk.”
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How fast is the speed of science compared to something like, oh, I dunno, the speed of light in a vacuum?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 12, 2022 01:16 PM (YIVH2)

11 USA Today is desperately trying to spin anything into a hit on Walker, I mean, unbiased news on Walker:

Walker denied three other debate invitations earlier this year, citing concerns about the setting and the debates' moderators. He chose the Savannah event, organized by TV news giant Nexstar Media, and goaded Warnock into participating.
"This debate is gonna be about the people; it's not about some political party, it's not about the press," he said on Fox News personality Sean Hannity's show in August.
The general manager of Nexstar's local TV station, NBC affiliate WSAV, said the tickets were split between the campaigns, who will be responsible for filling the seats.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022 01:16 PM (9BfnT)

12 Oopty.

Posted by: wth at October 12, 2022 01:16 PM (v0R5T)

13 "The speed of science"...these fucking guys.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 12, 2022 01:16 PM (V6f9+)

14 ..and they're all going to get away with this shit!

I'm so dispirited at the fact that I was right, and that all my immediate circle of friends were so wrong...and yet they can't admit it.

***sigh***

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at October 12, 2022 01:17 PM (BgMrQ)

15 Imagine what else they're lying about and covering up. Did all the politicians that took their live TV shots take saline? So glad I never took any of the shots.

Posted by: I Mean at October 12, 2022 01:17 PM (gR5Gl)

16 They repeatedly represented it would both stop the vaccinated person from getting covid -- wrong -- and also that it would prevent transmission.

Thanks for deliberately destroying my family, you insufferable douchebags. *spit*

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 12, 2022 01:17 PM (Xrfse)

17 Does one receive a ticket if they exceed the speed of science?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 12, 2022 01:17 PM (VaSD4)

18 Warnock did not try to goad Walker into a debate with partisan moderators, though. Nope.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022 01:17 PM (9BfnT)

19 >> at the speed of science.

We were scienceing furiously.

Posted by: Furiously Master-scientists at October 12, 2022 01:18 PM (G+kxT)

20 “We had to really move at the speed of science..we had to do everything at risk.”
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How fast is the speed of science compared to something like, oh, I dunno, the speed of light in a vacuum?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 12, 2022 01:16 PM (YIVH2)
........

equal to or greater than an unladen swallow.

Posted by: wth at October 12, 2022 01:18 PM (v0R5T)

21 Well, of course. How anyone could think it otherwise is beyond me. It normally takes years to get a drug approval, and it's not done with a grant of blanket civil immunity. So, yes, of course they just issued the damn thing without evidence for the claims they were making. The government gave them a blank check; they cashed it.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 12, 2022 01:19 PM (KFhLj)

22 What should happen: lampposts/rope some assembly required.

What will happen: diddly squat.

Posted by: Martin Tell at October 12, 2022 01:19 PM (Fi8mM)

23 9 I heard a good quality hemp rope is the best for hanging.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 12, 2022 01:16 PM (VaSD4)

In the previous thread there was mention of Vlad the Impaler. Nailing their published claims about the Clot Shot to their skull is now overdue.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 12, 2022 01:19 PM (N39Ws)

24 If you were moving at "the speed of science," you would have studied it and, upon finding that the vaccine was non-sterilizing, you would not have entered into production.

You were moving at the speed of politics.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2022 01:19 PM (t0OGg)

25 Possibly related: Head of the WHO says "COVID is a very serious crisis". Is he drain bamaged? Does he know what year this is?

Posted by: These Fish Sticks Are Hard As Tits at October 12, 2022 01:19 PM (3AD8C)

26 The Vaccines* Work, The Vaccines* are Effective, The Vaccines* Are Safe.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 12, 2022 01:19 PM (up/3i)

27 Does one receive a ticket if they exceed the speed of science?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 12, 2022 01:17 PM (VaSD4)
.......

Speed checked by radar

Posted by: wth at October 12, 2022 01:19 PM (v0R5T)

28 Soldiers, Marines, just dropping dead or dying in their sleep.
Nothing to see here.

https://tinyurl.com/2s3v5ejz
https://tinyurl.com/2jykbauw

Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 01:19 PM (mVFGK)

29 I'm thinking tribal medicine has an advantage over big pharma at this point.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 12, 2022 01:20 PM (lTGtQ)

30 It's always about the political science. Always

Posted by: CN at October 12, 2022 01:20 PM (Zzbjj)

31 We never said it stopped transmission!

Yes you did. Here is a post right here where you claim it did!

[This post has been removed for violating community guidelines]

Well, it was there a minute ago...

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022 01:20 PM (9BfnT)

32 First: You should get your clot shot so you don't spread COVID

Then: You HAVE to get your clot shot so you don't spread COVID. Its a mandate which is just a completely normal thing the government can do to stop the spread.

A little later: Oh the clot shot does nothing to stop the spread...we've *always* said that. It just makes the symptoms less severe when you get COVID multiple times.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 01:20 PM (ESjRY)

33
It was known very early on that these so-called "vaccines" were non-sterilizing. That is, they did not stop infection and transmission. And mass use of these during a pandemic/epidemic is a very stupid thing to do.

But they did it anyway.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 12, 2022 01:20 PM (Mzdiz)

34 Somebody here proclaimed the "science" they said they were following at such high speed was *political* science.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 12, 2022 01:20 PM (J2vNu)

35 "They straight-up lied to justify the imposition a totalitarian solution they preferred."

Every totalitarian solution is justified by lies. Every. Single. One. It's the only way that fascists can impose their totalitarian solutions. So when you hear some asshole proposing a totalitarian solution, no matter what it is, you know with 100% accuracy that he's lying to you. Sadly, far too many people are easily duped and controlled.

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 12, 2022 01:20 PM (iFTx/)

36
Call me wacky but I think the "speed of science" is the same thing as the "speed of politics" and the "speed of profit."

Posted by: Soothsayer at October 12, 2022 01:20 PM (vv4zI)

37 OK, new information. When does that New Zealand bitch disappear from the planet?

Posted by: Roy at October 12, 2022 01:20 PM (p3vLv)

38 People need to go to prison for life at the minimum, or a ride in old sparky. They and the 'government' have committed murder.

Posted by: Eromero at October 12, 2022 01:21 PM (0OP+5)

39 "Horse Paste" probably saved several hundred thousand lives, and if "Medical Authorities" did not allow Fauci/Birx drug mafia to block them, another half million could have been saved.

But one course of treatment was only $6, not $26,000 of that sweet government money ... so ... decisions were made ... on behalf of "Science" (Fauci IS "science" ... the fraudulent kind).

Woman that hunts here got Covid after refusing the jab, doctor told her to just go home. She was not doing well, husband gave her the horse paste, she was better the next day, much better in two days. Doctors obeyed ? Fauci the Fraud ... sheesh.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 12, 2022 01:21 PM (Cus5s)

40 Wish someone would ask WHY everyone was lied to.

No one seems to move beyond the revelation to finding the reason behind the plot.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 12, 2022 01:21 PM (6VKyY)

41 ABSOLUTE TOTAL MEDIA EMBARGO on this story by all main stream media. Reuters even did a short piece yesterday and did not bother to mention this facet of her testimony. They only mentioned the contractual process on the EU "vaccine".

Disgusting.

Posted by: Orson at October 12, 2022 01:21 PM (jiElx)

42 You guys at the federal government just wanted it lethal enough to reduce population.

Posted by: Pfizer Executive at October 12, 2022 01:21 PM (krQz2)

43 Nice questioning. He could have been slightly more striaghtforwrd but he got an answer. Much more qualified than any of our "journalists" and most of our congresspeople.

Posted by: LASue at October 12, 2022 01:21 PM (Ed8Zd)

44 "If you don't get vaccinated, you're anti-social. This is what the Dutch Prime Minister and Health Minister told us," Roos said.

Dude. Seriously? I was anti-social long before Covid.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2022 01:21 PM (CCIJK)

45 "If you don't get vaccinated, you're anti-social. This is what the Dutch Prime Minister and Health Minister told us," Roos said. "You don't get vaccinated just for yourself, but also for others--you do it for all of society. That's what they said." But that argument no longer holds, Roos explained.
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In part. In my opinion, though, they key point is that the argument *never* held. It didn't hold *then,* either. A bad loan is bad from the moment it's written, you just don't always find out about it right away.

The real question is who knew, at the time, that the argument didn't hold? Did the politicians who parroted the line know it? Did Pfizer know it? Who knew? By extension, why did the people in the know not countermand the argument, because it doesn't hold up and we were in the midst of a public health crisis and accuracy was paramount?

Of course, we all know the answer to the latter and we can effectively guess at answers to the former.

Sinister bastards.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2022 01:22 PM (t0OGg)

46 Trust the science!
Trust the experts!

F-ing idiots.

Posted by: Colonel Travis at October 12, 2022 01:22 PM (RG7Wy)

47 Pruneish sea hag Kate Ivey hardest hit.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 12, 2022 01:22 PM (VaSD4)

48 “We had to really move at the speed of science..we had to do everything at risk.”

So they risked the lives of society and their commandeered guinea pigs.

Posted by: CN at October 12, 2022 01:22 PM (Zzbjj)

49 32 First: You should get your clot shot so you don't spread COVID

Then: You HAVE to get your clot shot so you don't spread COVID. Its a mandate which is just a completely normal thing the government can do to stop the spread.

A little later: Oh the clot shot does nothing to stop the spread...we've *always* said that. It just makes the symptoms less severe when you get COVID multiple times.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 01:20 PM (ESjRY)

Oh, and we lied about that last point too. It's completely useless.

Posted by: Roy at October 12, 2022 01:22 PM (p3vLv)

50 Traditionally science is slow. How could it be anything else? Science arrives at knowledge by disproving things.

So, if an experimental gene therapy is "running at the speed of science" you would expect it to take *years* in each stage of development.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 01:22 PM (ESjRY)

51 "... we really had to move at the speed of science to really understand what is taking place in the market."

Hmmm. "market" + "science" = economics.
The truth slips out.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 12, 2022 01:22 PM (AiZBA)

52 26 The Vaccines* Work, The Vaccines* are Effective, The Vaccines* Are Safe.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 12, 2022 01:19 PM (up/3i

You may die, which is normal.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 12, 2022 01:22 PM (6VKyY)

53 In a COVID hearing in the European Parliament, one of the Pfizer directors just admitted to me--at the time of introduction,

the vaccine had never been tested on stopping the transmission of the virus."

A lot of mf'ers owe me an apology.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2022 01:22 PM (CCIJK)

54 Their "science" says that men can get pregnant. The people who did not trust their "science" have no regrets.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 12, 2022 01:22 PM (yHsuS)

55 They do that a lot -- they continue lying about what "The Science (TM)" says, and what "The Science (TM)" justifies the government doing to you, meanwhile continuing to defame and dehumanizing people who point out that what they call "The Science (TM)" is usually just a totalitarian-minded bureaucrat's political talking point with exactly zero real science behind it.
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In all aspects. Climate, COVID, nutrition, energy, whatever. All of it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2022 01:22 PM (t0OGg)

56 Even the claim that getting the shot will make your Covid less severe is an un-provable assertion.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at October 12, 2022 01:22 PM (rPOSk)

57 Fierce Urgency of Now

F.U.N.!!!

How could we possibly take time for evidence during a FUNdemic?

Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist at October 12, 2022 01:23 PM (Vu7A1)

58 “We had to really move at the speed of science..we had to do everything at risk.”
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How fast is the speed of science compared to something like, oh, I dunno, the speed of light in a vacuum?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 12, 2022

***
"186,000 Miles Per Second: It's Not Just a Good Idea, It's the Law!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 12, 2022 01:23 PM (J2vNu)

59 Again, we are going to be fighting a decade from now over shit we knew right here on this blog in January of 2020.

There's a f**king reason we never had a general purpose vaccine against cold/flu respiratory viruses, but OHHH NO, Big Pharma whipped up one in 8 months.

I'm really getting tired of being gas-lit, 24/7365.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 12, 2022 01:23 PM (up/3i)

60 moving "at the speed of science"

SCIENCING!!11

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty of Sciencing and lies at October 12, 2022 01:23 PM (FOGs2)

61 in fairness, I am going to miss that viva guy.

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 12, 2022 01:23 PM (CJCTv)

62 So when do the fascist pigs who gleefully forced this poison on us do a full reversal and start blaming it all on Trump and Pfizer?

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 12, 2022 01:23 PM (iFTx/)

63 How is it that these Pfizer villains are still able to walk around freely?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 12, 2022 01:23 PM (dxllA)

64 Piers Morgan got raked over the coals on twitter for his support of mandates and covid passports. Well deserved hatred

Posted by: CN at October 12, 2022 01:23 PM (Zzbjj)

65 Then: If you don't believe the clot shot stops the spread you are a science hating conspiracy theorist.

Now: No one ever said the clot shot stops the spread

Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 01:23 PM (ESjRY)

66 Remember when our government said it is a crisis of the unvaccinated? They tried to turn your fellow citizens against you. I remember.

Posted by: I Mean at October 12, 2022 01:23 PM (gR5Gl)

67 I'm more worried about the heart attacks and cancer !

Sick fucks. Greedy motherfuckers

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 12, 2022 01:23 PM (M+Lyo)

68 Move at the speed of science?? Real science moves like a turtle.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 12, 2022 01:23 PM (VwHCD)

69 “We had to really move at the speed of science..we had to do everything at risk.”
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How fast is the speed of science compared to something like, oh, I dunno, the speed of light in a vacuum?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 12, 2022 01:16 PM (YIVH2)
........

equal to or greater than an unladen swallow.

Posted by: wth at October 12, 2022 01:18 PM

African or European swallow?

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 12, 2022 01:23 PM (bVYXr)

70 “We had to really move at the speed of science..we had to do everything at risk.”

$$$$$$$$$$$$

Posted by: CN at October 12, 2022 01:23 PM (Zzbjj)

71 A lot of mf'ers owe me an apology.
Posted by: rickb223
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I wonder how many here, on this smart military blog, are on their fourth/fifth/sixth booster.

Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 01:23 PM (mVFGK)

72 the vaccine had never been tested on stopping the transmission of the virus."

No shit. If my dog had three rabies shots, and still got rabies, I'd have some serious questions.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2022 01:23 PM (CCIJK)

73 I'm sure they had computer models by the experts that showed it would stop transmission.

Posted by: Ripley at October 12, 2022 01:23 PM (MxEKc)

74
"We had to really move at the speed of science to understand what was taking place in the market."

If you say this is in a hilariously fake baritone, this sounds *exactly* like it came out of Elizabeth Holmes' lying, mealy mouth. Exactly. I mean, it sounds like Holmes wrote this woman's talking points.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 12, 2022 01:24 PM (oINRc)

75 As a Canadian, I'm hoping we are entering the vengeance, not justice, portion of the democide.

Posted by: Stateless at October 12, 2022 01:24 PM (FsZ2q)

76 Yeah, and everyone who had actually READ some of the medical material... who was SAYING it would not stop the spread... were silenced by the Government and Big Tech.

It's almost like Freedom of Speech, is important... ya know?

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 01:24 PM (oHd/0)

77
brb, sciencin'!

Posted by: Pfizer at October 12, 2022 01:24 PM (vv4zI)

78 Me! Me! Over here! I want to try the vaccine!

Posted by: Pfizerian Lab Rat at October 12, 2022 01:24 PM (9BeIJ)

79 A lot of mf'ers owe me an apology.
Posted by: r

in fairness, they got vaxxed they are going to suffer enough

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 12, 2022 01:24 PM (CJCTv)

80 So when do the fascist pigs who gleefully forced this poison on us do a full reversal and start blaming it all on Trump and Pfizer?

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 12, 2022 01:23 PM (iFTx/)

I'm more interested in when they become the rows of the impaled.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 12, 2022 01:24 PM (VwHCD)

81 Wish someone would ask WHY everyone was lied to.

No one seems to move beyond the revelation to finding the reason behind the plot.

Posted by: AlaBAMA

Everyone was lied to so that they would resume their economic activity, after it was crushed during the US coup. What was underestimated was the insanity of the leftist base worldwide, who to this day believe that a common cold virus can kill.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 12, 2022 01:24 PM (lTGtQ)

82 How is it that these Pfizer villains are still able to walk around freely?
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Because Stan is the ruler of this world.

Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 01:24 PM (mVFGK)

83 Drag Fauci in front of Senator Paul and let him dig in to the MANY representations by him and the Democrats that it prevented transmission of Covid.

This was a total shit show from the start. And Fauci is still gonna get his million dollar pension.

Fuck that little shithole.

Posted by: Czech Chick at October 12, 2022 01:25 PM (haWye)

84 A bit troubled by this - I mean the terms of reference and the specifics. I recall the trial for these shots were simply control group (no shot) vs. trial group, comparing infection rates over a given period. For technical and ethical reasons, you can't do this like you would with a bunch of mice (deliberately and certainly exposing the trial group but not the control group).

So I'm not even sure how you do the trial as I described above and get meaningful data - since you don't know the comparative degree to which both groups were exposed to the virus at all.

Maybe prevalence is just sufficient? Of course prevalence also means most have been exposed, so the epidemic you're seeing is what you're gonna get, pretty much no matter what you do. So what's the point of the shot anyway? Which is an a priori problem with a flu shot, which this is, anyway, in operational terms.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 12, 2022 01:25 PM (OTzUX)

85 "Why wasn't this question asked before?"

Because no one in a position to ask the question wanted to know the answer.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 12, 2022 01:25 PM (mR6Gs)

86 Right now they're telling you "The Science (TM)" is clear -- girls are boys and boys are girls.
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The science is *never* "settled." Never. The scientific method is one of disproving hypothesis. You can have concurrence. You can have zealotry. You can never have finality.

The science was settled that London's cholera outbreaks were due to bad air, not polluted water. People arguing that the water was the problem (well, truthfully, the sewage getting into the water) were scoffed at and their heresies disregarded for a rather long time while people kept dying. It's a damn good thing the science of cholera transmission turned out to not be "settled."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2022 01:25 PM (t0OGg)

87 Vaccine-denying science-haters.

Posted by: AllahPundit at October 12, 2022 01:25 PM (C1Zwz)

88 Even the claim that getting the shot will make your Covid less severe is an un-provable assertion.

I'd say it is provable.

Track say 10K people with the clot shot and boosters vs 10K people without.

Measure how many die from COVID, and other causes, each month and supply age/weight/race data.

Note the government HAS this data. And it will NOT share it. So...what do you think it shows?

Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 01:25 PM (ESjRY)

89 equal to or greater than an unladen swallow.

Posted by: w

what are you swallowing?

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 12, 2022 01:25 PM (CJCTv)

90 Then: If you don't believe the clot shot stops the spread you are a science hating conspiracy theorist.

Now: No one ever said the clot shot stops the spread
Posted by: 18-1

Except there are so many sound clips out there showing just that. And the internet is forever.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2022 01:25 PM (CCIJK)

91 How does one even test for efficacy against transmission? With humans, not mice?

Posted by: rhomboid at October 12, 2022 01:25 PM (OTzUX)

92
Dr Jonas Salk just called me from beyond the grave and said, "WTF?"

Posted by: Soothsayer the Senile TV Encyclopedia at October 12, 2022 01:25 PM (vv4zI)

93 Pfizer offered any researcher a million dollars if they could prove the vax would work

yep, the same million dollars

Posted by: REDACTED at October 12, 2022 01:25 PM (us2H3)

94 It was gut instinct, nothing else, but I had a feeling this was the case. I'm part of the 20% that has no regrets.

My son and other family members didn't have the gut instinct and since that's all I had I could not convince them to not do it. I really thought I would feel something positive when one of them recently said they regretted getting the shot. I didn't. I'm still mad about it.

Posted by: Ethan Saunders at October 12, 2022 01:25 PM (W1E3x)

95 73 I'm sure they had computer models by the experts that showed it would stop transmission.
Posted by: Ripley at October 12, 2022 01:23 PM (MxEKc)

Well... not saying I was working for Pfizer... but...

Posted by: Michael Mann... at October 12, 2022 01:26 PM (oHd/0)

96 Steve Schmidt is going scorched-earth on The Lincoln Project for ‘some of the most despicable and unethical behavior I have ever seen

https://tinyurl.com/2r8f2c9u

Posted by: redridinghood at October 12, 2022 01:26 PM (NpAcC)

97 The speed of science is Fauci prancing a 40 yard dash right?

Posted by: TexasDan at October 12, 2022 01:26 PM (nqij7)

98 >>>"Why wasn't this question asked before?"

Too much money to be looted from the treasury.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 12, 2022 01:26 PM (yHsuS)

99 The speed of bullshit is closer to the truth.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at October 12, 2022 01:27 PM (ZSK0i)

100 In the previous thread there was mention of Vlad the Impaler. Nailing their published claims about the Clot Shot to their skull is now overdue.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 12, 2022 01:19 PM (N39Ws)

cut. jib. newsletter please

these "people" need to become festering carcasses that even the buzzards wouldn't consume.

I'm not condoning violence but i would totally understand if bad things were to happen to their buildings and such...

Posted by: SturmToddler at October 12, 2022 01:27 PM (WhsXQ)

101 Pushing past safeguards when our grandparents or parents were dying was entirely understandable. Some people were clearly at a very high risk of death. Which is why when the "vaccine" became available I decided to be a good citizen and just wait a bit until all of the very high risk people got vaccinated first. I'd had covid a couple of months earlier and my husband proved that his equally mild (stuff smelled odd for a day and we were tired for a week) case of covid had given him rock-solid immunity while he was primary caregiver for someone with a horrible case of it. So I waited.

And then they started pushing it on pregnant women and young people and I started to wonder and decided to wait. And then as the crazy continued and the "estimate" of how long your immunity lasted from getting sick went up month by month and it became clear that the "maybe four months" of immunity wasn't based on anything but there having been only four months of data.

There were too many lies and too much inconsistency.

Posted by: Synova at October 12, 2022 01:27 PM (BD/yx)

102 The science is *never* "settled." Never. The scientific method is one of disproving hypothesis. You can have concurrence. You can have zealotry.

You can never have finality.

The earf revolves around the sun. The sun will appear from the east every morning.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2022 01:27 PM (CCIJK)

103 >>>The science was settled that London's cholera outbreaks were due to bad air, not polluted water. People arguing that the water was the problem (well, truthfully, the sewage getting into the water) were scoffed at and their heresies disregarded for a rather long time while people kept dying. I

a really bizarre notion that I can't believe they believed so deep into what we'd call the modern era. They kept hospital wards' windows shut tight to keep the "bad air" out -- locking in the stale, germ-filled air, so that all the patients could infect each other.

But they didn't believe in germs. They thought the theory was akin to a belief in tiny invisible demons.

Posted by: ace at October 12, 2022 01:27 PM (C1Zwz)

104
So tell me again WHYTHEFUCK Pfizer and FDA fake-approved this bullshit snake oil for CHILDREN as young as 2 years old??

Posted by: Soothsayer the Senile TV Encyclopedia at October 12, 2022 01:27 PM (vv4zI)

105 I heard a good quality hemp rope is the best for hanging.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 12, 2022 01:16 PM (VaSD4)

But bungee cord would make for a fine spectacle.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 12, 2022 01:27 PM (Lr5+Z)

106 These mother fuckers ruined my Coterie of Hamish bars and restaurants, formerly affordable or shut down outright like Tin Horn Flats in Burbank.

Gave petty pissy mask Nazis a taste of power.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at October 12, 2022 01:27 PM (FOGs2)

107 At this point the only question remaining is whether the Vax was a deliberate attempt to reduce population or just a money and power grab with the negligent and unintentional side effect of reducing population. Clown Show elites make the second idea plausible.

Posted by: azjaeger at October 12, 2022 01:27 PM (T+aTa)

108 in fairness, it is not about the $, there was not that much $, it is about murdering you

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 12, 2022 01:27 PM (CJCTv)

109 96 Steve Schmidt is going scorched-earth on The Lincoln Project for ‘some of the most despicable and unethical behavior I have ever seen

has he lit his hair on fire ??

Posted by: REDACTED at October 12, 2022 01:27 PM (us2H3)

110 Posted by: Ethan Saunders at October 12, 2022 01:25 PM (W1E3x)

My 31 year old Son now has heart problems... yeah he was a bit overweight to start, and had high stress... but.. no family history on either side of heart issues.

Government is killing us.

Posted by: Michael Mann... at October 12, 2022 01:28 PM (oHd/0)

111
Geert Vanden Bossche wrote a letter to the WHO back in March 2021. He was warning "don't mass deploy a non-sterilizing vaccine in the middle of a pandemic. Don't do this".

Everything he predicted about vaccine escape, original antigenic sin, etc came to pass. He wasn't even considering any side effects and harms in that, either.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 12, 2022 01:28 PM (Mzdiz)

112 So we have proof of fraud, coordination with government officials, and a coverup.

Anyone in the supposed opposition party asking the FBI to arrest Fauci and the heads of Pfizer and Moderna?

No?

Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 01:28 PM (ESjRY)

113 Same with the "Science" of climate change.

Posted by: BuckIV at October 12, 2022 01:28 PM (CLfqv)

114 I swear that even with all the information and knowledge that is at our fingertips, we are stupider than we were in the Middle Ages. I always think of the 'Burn the Witch" scene from Monty Python's Holy Grail and think that it was illustrative of us today.

That and the movie Idiocracy, which I am convinced is a documentary.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at October 12, 2022 01:28 PM (rPOSk)

115 "..we had to really move at the speed of science"

Yes, and governments had to move at the speed of dictatorship.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 12, 2022 01:28 PM (QYQ5e)

116 Except there are so many sound clips out there showing just that. And the internet is forever.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2022 01:25 PM (CCIJK)

Twitter was rapidly full of these clips, Walensky, Biden, Tony Blair, Gates, Maddow, etc

Posted by: CN at October 12, 2022 01:28 PM (Zzbjj)

117 108 in fairness, it is not about the $, there was not that much $, it is about murdering you
Posted by: confederatefifth at October 12, 2022 01:27 PM (CJCTv)

Its about fear, and power.... when a MAYOR can use this 'emergency' to take away your Civil Rights? and the COURT's will not intervene?

You have no Rights.

Posted by: Michael Mann... at October 12, 2022 01:29 PM (oHd/0)

118 You're killin' me , Small.

Posted by: Eromero at October 12, 2022 01:29 PM (0OP+5)

119 Not to be a jerk but is testing against transmission even a thing?

If a vaccine prevents people from getting infected that's what prevents transmission?

Does anyone ever test *any* vaccine for "transmission?"

Just honestly not sure this makes sense as a gotcha.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 12, 2022 01:29 PM (nqij7)

120 A big reason why recruitment is down because not many want to be forced to take the death jab.

And with recruits dropping like flies, can't blame them.

Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 01:29 PM (mVFGK)

121 Walensky was astounded by the wonderful, but non-existent, data

Posted by: CN at October 12, 2022 01:29 PM (Zzbjj)

122 Posted by: Michael Mann... at October 12, 2022 01:29 PM (oHd/0)

Off bad programmer sock!!!!

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 01:29 PM (oHd/0)

123 *fingers in ears*

neener, neener, neener...

Posted by: Howard Stern, hiding in the basement at October 12, 2022 01:29 PM (p3vLv)

124 They tried to give my friends 4 year the Covid vaccine last week. Luckily she said absolutely not.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 12, 2022 01:29 PM (NpAcC)

125 Those of us who refused the clot shot were heroes.

Those who took it out of conviction, believing the lies, well, I hope nothing bad comes of it for you. Those who were forced to take it, I'm sorry. But if you refused and stood up and did what you had to do (even if that was via religious exemption like yours truly), you're a hero.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 12, 2022 01:29 PM (J2vNu)

126 OK, new information. When does that New Zealand bitch disappear from the planet?
Posted by: Roy at October 12, 2022 01:20 PM (p3vLv)

Ardern? She’s polling at about 28% approval, which means she’s more disliked than Joepedo. How that translates into her defenestration is outside my knowledge though. Non US parliamentary systems are weird.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 12, 2022 01:29 PM (3cXfB)

127 a really bizarre notion that I can't believe they believed so deep into what we'd call the modern era. They kept hospital wards' windows shut tight to keep the "bad air" out -- locking in the stale, germ-filled air, so that all the patients could infect each other.

But they didn't believe in germs. They thought the theory was akin to a belief in tiny invisible demons.

Posted by: ace

Western science has produced some awesome diagnostic tools in modern times, but the attitudes of those using them haven't changed much.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 12, 2022 01:30 PM (lTGtQ)

128 At some point if we get a President DeSantis I hope he'll release Biden/Pelosi/etc's medical records.

I want to know what shots they really got.

And with the stuff being done to Trump right now I think we've got a pretty good precedent for doing so.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 01:30 PM (ESjRY)

129 8 Mice

Posted by: M&M at October 12, 2022 01:30 PM (v0R5T)

130 “Psyence,” more like it.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 12, 2022 01:30 PM (dxllA)

131 A lot of mf'ers owe me an apology.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2022 01:22 PM (CCIJK)

B I G L Y.

Posted by: turnout man at October 12, 2022 01:30 PM (7CyhL)

132 I wonder how many here, on this smart military blog, are on their fourth/fifth/sixth booster.
Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 01:23 PM (mVFGK)

Might be a few, and of that few, most were coerced.

I can't imagine more than a handful (BTH, Raimondo...I'm looking at you) got jabbed willingly.

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at October 12, 2022 01:30 PM (BgMrQ)

133 Even if you concede that the Fierce Urgency of Now during the covid pandemic didn't allow for testing -- even if -- how can one say that the urgency also permitted lying about the vaccine's effectiveness in stopping the transmission of covid?!!

The urgency wasn't stopping covid. The urgency was getting wide acceptance of the shot so the question becomes why did they want wide acceptance of the shot? A "reasonable" person might say so that people could become comfortable with this new technological breakthrough. Others might say that they wanted to use it to advance acceptance of social controls.

I believe that the social controls are a bonus and the main reason for the full-court press on the shots was that they knew it would kill a goodly number people, directly or indirectly, and that was an unstated goal. Albert Bourla is, after all, a member of the WEF in good standing.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 01:30 PM (zhLdt)

134 It was not a cheap lie. It was a deeply researched, pushed and propagandized lie that the people pushing it knew they would have to "waste" a certain number of the population by firings, continued inability to work, isolation from families, restriction from attending schools, visiting restaurants and clubs, and forcing masking.

It was not cheap, it was calculated at being less expensive than the perceived alternatives.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 12, 2022 01:30 PM (xhaym)

135 "... we really had to move at the speed of science to really understand what is taking place in the market."

That might sound like a valid argument to me if I personally knew a single person that was killed from covid. Or even saw some actual corpses piled up. Like in a real pandemic

Posted by: Ripley at October 12, 2022 01:30 PM (MxEKc)

136 Not to be a jerk but is testing against transmission even a thing?
If a vaccine prevents people from getting infected that's what prevents transmission?
Does anyone ever test *any* vaccine for "transmission?"
Just honestly not sure this makes sense as a gtcha.

in fairness, if it is not a thing it would have ben to her advantage to say as much.

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 12, 2022 01:30 PM (CJCTv)

137 Question: Why hasn't this been asked before?

---------

Like many here, I already knew the answer: there were NO CLINICAL TRIALS (aside from the experimental guinea pigs worldwide who took it on faith in their ruling class betters), and why I refused even think about getting the jab -- I will NEVER trust any so-called "vaccine" again.

These are Cultural Marxists mental midgets and moral retards are psychological & emotional children engaging in magical thinking: if we just call it a "vaccine", IT'LL WORK! If we just call it "settled science", then it is! And the best part? They're NEVER held to account or punished, and are in fact perversely rewarded in all manner of ways afterwards.

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 12, 2022 01:30 PM (JNPgJ)

138 Has Moderna made any comment regarding the effectiveness of its vaccines related to transmission? What and where are their trials?

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 12, 2022 01:30 PM (sVtYq)

139 The science is *never* "settled." Never. The scientific method is one of disproving hypothesis. You can have concurrence. You can have zealotry.

You can never have finality....

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2022 01:27 PM (CCIJK)

They are *still* running experiments and making observations trying to punch holes in Einstein's theories.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 12, 2022 01:31 PM (AiZBA)

140 So, Hydra is real isn't it?

Posted by: I feel like this is now a fair question at October 12, 2022 01:31 PM (X7DJo)

141 Does anyone ever test *any* vaccine for "transmission?"

Well...most vaccines are sterilizing so they inherently protect you from "transmission"

Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 01:31 PM (ESjRY)

142 132. My husband, not on the blog, has had 5 shots.

Posted by: CN at October 12, 2022 01:31 PM (Zzbjj)

143 >>>Question: Why hasn't this been asked before?

I assume that's rhetorical but I'll answer it anyway. Why don't people ask questions.

1. They don't want the answer.
2. They already know the answer.

Making someone bend the knee has nothing to with the bending or the knee, it's the making.

This was an opportune time to take control of people in a way that's never been done before and we can't let the crisis go to waste by asking questions like, "is what we are forcing them to do actually helping" masks, vaccines shutdowns et al.

They never asked whether masks actually worked, nor whether shutdowns and isolation actually worked because they already knew and didn't want the answers spoken out loud. So much so they silenced those answers online whenever they popped up

Posted by: mikethemoose at October 12, 2022 01:31 PM (T/vhV)

144 A lot of mf'ers owe me an apology.
Posted by: rickb223

I should have said, "in meat space, not here".

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2022 01:32 PM (CCIJK)

145 Posted by: Michael Mann... at October 12, 2022 01:28 PM (oHd/0)

My son is a few years older than yours (34) so far no issues that he has shared with me so he might be one of the *lucky ones. He did finally wise up and not get boosted even once. Sorry to hear about your son. I don't know what I would do but I have ideas.

Posted by: Ethan Saunders at October 12, 2022 01:32 PM (W1E3x)

146 We're all owed an apology. We will never get one.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 12, 2022 01:32 PM (M9FHm)

147 @ace: "Question: Why hasn't this been asked before?"

Wrong question. Clever inside pharma folks already knew this, as did their curious friends and family. The question was always there and waiting.

The better question is: "Why are they willingly answering in public now?"

Posted by: Walter Freeman at October 12, 2022 01:32 PM (k+C2q)

148 >>>119 Not to be a jerk but is testing against transmission even a thing?
If a vaccine prevents people from getting infected that's what prevents transmission?
Does anyone ever test *any* vaccine for "transmission?"
Just honestly not sure this makes sense as a gotcha.

Well they knew the vaccine didn't stop all infections; they only promised a "92%" or whatever immunization rate. (Which was way over-optimistic.)

They could have followed up with vaccinated people to see if, after catching it, they spread it to household members.

Posted by: ace at October 12, 2022 01:32 PM (C1Zwz)

149 This stinks to high heaven and unfortunately DJT got some of it on him.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, partly cloudy, clearing in the afternoon at October 12, 2022 01:32 PM (jTmQV)

150 Then: If you don't believe the clot shot stops the spread you are a science hating conspiracy theorist.
Now: No one ever said the clot shot stops the spread
Posted by: 18-1
Except there are so many sound clips out there showing just that. And the internet is forever.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2022 01:25 PM (CCIJK)

You know you are a conspiracy theorist for saying that all your science people are denying they told you that they said that the clotshot prevents transmission.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 12, 2022 01:32 PM (xhaym)

151 Well...most vaccines are sterilizing so they inherently protect you from "transmission"
Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 01:31 PM (ESjRY)

Those mRNA vaccines are sterilizing.

Oh, you aren't talking about the reproductive system?

Posted by: Roy at October 12, 2022 01:32 PM (p3vLv)

152 A "reasonable" person might say so that people could become comfortable with this new technological breakthrough.

I saw a speech by a Moderna exec where he thanked the FNM for NOT calling it a genetic therapy because now they can sell MORE genetic therapies to people.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 01:32 PM (ESjRY)

153 has he lit his hair on fire ??
Posted by: REDACTED at October 12, 2022 01:27 PM (us2H3)
*****
Well, he's bald, but you knew that. lol.

Posted by: redridinghood at October 12, 2022 01:32 PM (NpAcC)

154 Sorry to hear that, CN.

My side of the family are true believers, hub's family, jab-free.

Kids/grandkids, no jabs.

Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 01:33 PM (mVFGK)

155 They just assumed, without evidence, that if the vaccine kept you from getting Covid, then it kept you from spreading it. But if you were to say "That is wrong, it doesn't keep you from spreading it" they would demand evidence for your claim and ban you from FB for going against science.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022 01:33 PM (9BfnT)

156 Coincidentally, the radio propaganda has been pushing the vax for kids hard today. They are not giving up on this until we all submit.

Posted by: Ripley at October 12, 2022 01:33 PM (MxEKc)

157 There are reports that the vaccine has actually been around since 2017. Which is weird since the "science" was so rushed.

Posted by: Lady in Black at October 12, 2022 01:33 PM (sVtYq)

158 Even if the information about the possible side effects of this "treatment" hadn't been easily available . . . I'd like to think I'd have refused anyway. "Who are you to tell me what substances I *must* put in my body?"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 12, 2022 01:33 PM (J2vNu)

159 Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 01:30 PM (zhLdt)

As is Bancel

Posted by: CN at October 12, 2022 01:33 PM (Zzbjj)

160 Once they said if you get vaxxed you still have to stay inside, wear a mask and distance, that's what changed my mind on the whole thing. That was all it took.

Posted by: ... at October 12, 2022 01:33 PM (NyJuk)

161 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 12, 2022 01:33 PM (Zz0t1)

162 Think for a moment about how governments stole individual freedom and liberty from people all based on a lie.

How many people needlessly died from the "vaccine"? How many other died from governments inexcusable abuses of power? How many generations have been permanently damaged by their actions? How many people lost their livelihoods or were inexcusably thrown from their vocation?

This still persists today, even though the lies have been exposed.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 12, 2022 01:33 PM (QYQ5e)

163 Number of people I know who've died from COVID = 0

Number of people I know who've died from Clot shot = 2

Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 01:33 PM (ESjRY)

164 The epitome of 'misinformation.'

https://is.gd/FmanHO

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 12, 2022 01:33 PM (Zz0t1)

165 She blinded me with the speed of science

Posted by: Thomas "ATMOS" Dolby at October 12, 2022 01:34 PM (2cfUo)

166 If Fauci is SCIENCE then is the speed of science the speed of Fauci?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 12, 2022 01:34 PM (63Dwl)

167 How fast is the speed of science compared to something like, oh, I dunno, the speed of light in a vacuum?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 12, 2022 01:16 PM (YIVH2)

How fast is the speed of science compared to something like, oh, I dunno, the speed of a 150-ish pound weight at the end of a 4-5 foot drop?

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 01:34 PM (zhLdt)

168 I know some people just took the vaccine because they trust the pharmaceutical industry, the mainstream media and the government to tell the truth about everything.

I'm still willing to take the vaccine, but I'm taking the reasonable position of waiting for an experimental medical treatment to be fully studied and for long term studies on safety and efficacy to be returned.

I wasn't so scared of the virus, death, social pressure or losing my job that I was willing to suspend my common sense, healthy skepticism, bodily autonomy and rationality. A lot of people sadly were unnecessarily scared and went against their own better judgement.

I hope that there isn't any long term repercussions from taking it, but it looks like many people have died and been injured by it. So far things don't look good for this medical experiment.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 12, 2022 01:34 PM (heQ4I)

169 We're all owed an apology. We will never get one.
___

I never expected an apology from my mom, I don't expect it from folks that are doing their best to kill me.

Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 01:34 PM (mVFGK)

170 in fairness. instead of getting angry, just sit back and enjoy the ride, this is going to be fun

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 12, 2022 01:34 PM (CJCTv)

171 I won't lie. I had one shot. Against my wishes.

Even that one shot caused a bunch of weird ailments after the fact. Mostly inflammation.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 12, 2022 01:34 PM (6VKyY)

172 But remember, it was a pandemic of the unvaccinated because they were the ones spreading it.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022 01:34 PM (9BfnT)

173 Oh, and we lied about that last point too. It's completely useless.
Posted by: Roy at October 12, 2022 01:22 PM (p3vLv)

Well, not completely useless. It reduces overpopulation a little.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 12, 2022 01:35 PM (Lr5+Z)

174 pfizer in springtime

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 12, 2022 01:35 PM (CJCTv)

175 You know you are a conspiracy theorist for saying that all your science people are denying they told you that they said that the clotshot prevents transmission.
Posted by: Kindltot

Ima fact checker.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2022 01:35 PM (CCIJK)

176 That might sound like a valid argument to me if I personally knew a single person that was killed from covid. Or even saw some actual corpses piled up. Like in a real pandemic
Posted by: Ripley at October 12, 2022 01:30 PM (MxEKc)

They really did in those nursing homes in New York. My MiL died. I know a younger person who was in a coma for a while. My co-worker had five or six elderly relatives all die.

The people at risk really were at risk.

The people who weren't at risk...weren't.

Posted by: Synova at October 12, 2022 01:35 PM (BD/yx)

177 We're all owed an apology.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 12, 2022 01:32 PM (M9FHm)

The word you are looking for is "damages".

Posted by: ... at October 12, 2022 01:35 PM (NyJuk)

178 Well...most vaccines are sterilizing so they inherently protect you from "transmission"
Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022

Thanks. I was not clear on what that term meant either.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 12, 2022 01:35 PM (FU+0j)

179 At age 29++, I haven't got an initial or booster. I feel as crappy as I do every morning.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 12, 2022 01:35 PM (lz5hY)

180 My side of the family are true believers, hub's family, jab-free.

Kids/grandkids, no jabs.
Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 01:33 PM (mVFGK)

Husband and I fell for it as we are "older" got two... Husband lost sense of smell and had headaches for months... Only one Grand kid is vaxed.. DIL did it behind my sons back... Other family members jab free...

Posted by: It's me donna at October 12, 2022 01:35 PM (bs+z0)

181 A lot of mf'ers owe me an apology.
Posted by: rickb223
.........

Not me, I'm so glad I got the Pfizer jab for a trip to Hawaii, got sick as a fucking dog from it for a month, got my QR codes for TSA, wore a fucking mask for 5 hours on the flight, etc. etc.
Because I'm a good little prole.

Posted by: wth at October 12, 2022 01:35 PM (v0R5T)

182 “Won’t it be difficult to put an untested vaccine to market?”

“Actually, it’s going to be super easy; barely an inconvenience!”

Posted by: Crazy at October 12, 2022 01:35 PM (0qI7Y)

183 So, Hydra is real isn't it?
Posted by: I feel like this is now a fair question at October 12, 2022

***
Upstarts. Johnny-come-latelies.

Posted by: Thrush, Plotting Since 1893 at October 12, 2022 01:35 PM (J2vNu)

184 We're all owed an apology. We will never get one.

do you even want it?

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 12, 2022 01:36 PM (CJCTv)

185 SMH: He gave me hell about it, but I refused and discouraged kids, and so kids and grandsons are free of this menace. Both of the in-laws had the vax, one had it under coercion, the other by choice, but stopped after 2.

Posted by: CN at October 12, 2022 01:36 PM (Zzbjj)

186 And they'll only tell the truth in this because it's something we can tell on our own, as transmission hasn't fallen.

They'll never tell the truth on any possible prevalent dangerous side effects because they can just claim that it's normal for 20 year olds to start dropping dead of heart issues, and people have always lost all ability to produce antibodies, or massive amounts of 40 year olds getting juvenile diabetes is no big deal.

Posted by: Rbastid at October 12, 2022 01:36 PM (7Ia3u)

187 Mass hangings all around.

Posted by: Dr. T at October 12, 2022 01:36 PM (bhRsz)

188 Europeans taking it to big pharma

THINGS OUR CONGRESS IS AFRAID TO DO

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 12, 2022 01:36 PM (e72DJ)

189 Those of us who refused the clot shot were heroes.

I in no way consider myself a hero for refusing. Call it a "Spidey sense" or instinctual, but I somehow knew it was dangerous garbage from the get-go.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 12, 2022 01:36 PM (Xrfse)

190 I damn near begged people not to get it. It's frustrating.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 12, 2022 01:36 PM (M9FHm)

191 "Pfizer offered any researcher a million dollars if they could prove the vax would work"

they knew it did not work and was dangerous, so they paid millions to have TopMen get it authorized under emergency measures, get BigGov to pay top dollar for everyone to get it, and to block all other effective (but cheap) treatments.

Probably a few hundred million in direct paybacks? ... not to mention all the insiders that bought BigPharma stock and doubled their investment. Killers every one.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 12, 2022 01:36 PM (Cus5s)

192 167 How fast is the speed of science compared to something like, oh, I dunno, the speed of light in a vacuum?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 12, 2022 01:16 PM (YIVH2)

How fast is the speed of science compared to something like, oh, I dunno, the speed of a 150-ish pound weight at the end of a 4-5 foot drop?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 01:34 PM (zhLdt)

Is it faster than the Horizontal speed of an unladen Swallow?

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 01:36 PM (oHd/0)

193 So is the consensus that this vax was pushed as a way to get the economy moving again?

I never fully bought into the evil global reduction of undesirables.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 12, 2022 01:36 PM (6VKyY)

194 Re: 9
I think the MIL_SPEC was for inch and a quarter, well oiled.

Posted by: Oliver Wendell Holmes at October 12, 2022 01:36 PM (qyH+l)

195 We're all owed an apology.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 12, 2022 01:32 PM (M9FHm)

The word you are looking for is "damages".

Posted by: ... at October 12, 2022 01:35 PM (NyJuk)

That's an odd way to spell "retribution."

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 12, 2022 01:36 PM (yHsuS)

196 No shots, at risk. Took horse paste till I found a good online source of ivermectin. I have that, HCQ and azt now. I did my own research.

Meanwhile, FB helpfully mentions how safe the shots are...when we are discussing vaccinations for dogs.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at October 12, 2022 01:36 PM (5HBd1)

197 Number of people I know who've died from COVID = 0

Number of people I know who've died from Clot shot = 2
Posted by: 18-1

Number of people I know who've died from COVID = 0

Number of people I know who've died from being put on a ventilator instead of Ivermectin? 1

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2022 01:36 PM (CCIJK)

198 Moving at the speed of science.

Science is constantly changing? Huh. Figured Earth was pretty constant, along with all the minerals, elements and such being here for billions of years, supposedly.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 12, 2022 01:37 PM (Zz0t1)

199 104
So tell me again WHYTHEFUCK Pfizer and FDA fake-approved this bullshit snake oil for CHILDREN as young as 2 years old??
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As I understand once the "vax" is on the schedule of vaccines for children they cannot be held liable.
It's all about money for these monsters... selling our children for money. Evil !@#$#$%

Posted by: Haywood at October 12, 2022 01:37 PM (XiR6c)

200 Every single thing they said from day 1 was a lie.

Where it came from, how it was funded, who was involved, that it was a "vaccine", that it did not spread to throughout the body doing irreparable damage to organs and brain, myocarditis is mellow and curable (death will come soon after for all the kids), the number of deaths after the poison jab (not reported the first 2 weeks), covid outbreak numbers a lie (people in car accidents noted as death from covid), etc.

Millions will have died from the poison jab, breast milk is poisonous, women's reproductive systems are destroyed, prion diseases, nervous disorders, cardiac, cancer, you name it. And all of the doctors or nurses trying to tell the truth are silenced, threatened, licenses taken away, jobs taken away. Money paid per shot given, per respirator or Remdesivir given. Money paid to hurt and kill people.

Posted by: artisanal ette at October 12, 2022 01:37 PM (9qHsE)

201 Also racism protests are healthy but don't you dare try to visit your loved one in the hospital, go to church, or have a funeral after they die alone.

Posted by: ... at October 12, 2022 01:37 PM (NyJuk)

202 I think the MIL_SPEC was for inch and a quarter, well oiled.
Posted by: Oliver Wendell Holmes

I KNEW I could be useful!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2022 01:37 PM (CCIJK)

203 I damn near begged people not to get it. It's frustrating.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 12, 2022 01:36 PM (M9FHm)

Yep. And in the end, you had to let them make their own decision. A choice that was increasingly not available for those choosing to abstain.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 12, 2022 01:37 PM (yHsuS)

204 do you even want it?
Posted by: confederatefifth at October 12, 2022 01:36 PM (CJCTv)

NO! I want prosecutions and massive, massive punitive fines and damages. Apology not accepted. "We're sorry we lied to make money and put you at risk". No fucking way

Posted by: CN at October 12, 2022 01:37 PM (Zzbjj)

205 Sorry racism *riots*, they've even got me doing it.

Posted by: ... at October 12, 2022 01:37 PM (NyJuk)

206 If a vaccine prevents people from getting infected that's what prevents transmission?

Does anyone ever test *any* vaccine for "transmission?"

Just honestly not sure this makes sense as a gotcha.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 12, 2022 01:29 PM

It might not have been a huge thing, but these idiots went around on every single TV station 24/7 and continually made the claim that the vaccine stopped people from transmitting the virus.

Remember all of the "get the vaccine so you won't spread the virus" spots?

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 12, 2022 01:38 PM (bVYXr)

207 I can't find the article now, but read about a study of ventilator use. It showed something like 97% death rate if the elderly were put on a vent for Wuflu. Those that were not had a death rate in the 20s.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at October 12, 2022 01:38 PM (5HBd1)

208 They not only knew from trials the the "vaccine wasn't effective at the rates they lies about. They also lied about the duration of that protection and the side effect on populations such as the young and pregnant/nursing women. And much more.

There isn't a single thing they didn't lie about, and help the government weaponize those lies against the people.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 12, 2022 01:38 PM (QYQ5e)

209 That might sound like a valid argument to me if I personally knew a single person that was killed from covid. Or even saw some actual corpses piled up. Like in a real pandemic
Posted by: Ripley at October 12, 2022

***
The single person I knew personally who was said to have died of the Coof was a work colleague in another department. Of course she was way overweight and way past 70, too, with probably other health issues I never knew about.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 12, 2022 01:38 PM (J2vNu)

210 177 We're all owed an apology.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 12, 2022 01:32 PM (M9FHm)

The word you are looking for is "damages".
Posted by: ... at October 12, 2022 01:35 PM (NyJuk)

Yeah, good luck...

Posted by: Gulf War Vet with Gulf War Syndrome at October 12, 2022 01:38 PM (oHd/0)

211 do you even want it?
Posted by: confederatefifth at October 12, 2022 01:36 PM (CJCTv)

Yep. Sure do. I want to hear it out of their filthy fucking pieholes.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 12, 2022 01:38 PM (M9FHm)

212 Is Pfizer a German company?

If so, I wonder if it had any association with the Third Reich back in the day.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 12, 2022 01:38 PM (dxllA)

213 Can everybody that lost their careers, that was denied access to education, lost or had their businesses damaged, was hounded and vilified by the unrelenting Left's COVID-19 propaganda machine now seek justice against the bastards that propagated this? I suggest we start with Fauci, then the entire NIH and CDC. Somebody somewhere, in these agencies, knew these vaccines were not effective and they kept their mouths shut. I can only speculate as to why, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is so these bastards could keep their cushy jobs and pensions, receive their awards and later go to fancy cocktail parties where they could preen for their peers and sniff at the deplorables they hoodwinked. Is there a single part of the government that doesn't exists only to preserve its own power?

Posted by: Lost In Space at October 12, 2022 01:38 PM (3rD2r)

214 in fairness, I have some friends and family that got it but just because they have been doing what the meds said since they were babies and they are not into politics .

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 12, 2022 01:38 PM (CJCTv)

215 Every single thing they said from day 1 was a lie.

Where it came from, how it was funded, who was involved, that it was a "vaccine", that it did not spread to throughout the body doing irreparable damage to organs and brain, myocarditis is mellow and curable (death will come soon after for all the kids), the number of deaths after the poison jab (not reported the first 2 weeks), covid outbreak numbers a lie (people in car accidents noted as death from covid), etc.

Millions will have died from the poison jab, breast milk is poisonous, women's reproductive systems are destroyed, prion diseases, nervous disorders, cardiac, cancer, you name it. And all of the doctors or nurses trying to tell the truth are silenced, threatened, licenses taken away, jobs taken away. Money paid per shot given, per respirator or Remdesivir given. Money paid to hurt and kill people.

Posted by: artisanal ette at October 12, 2022 01:37 PM (9qHsE)

Excellent nutshell.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 12, 2022 01:39 PM (yHsuS)

216 That's an odd way to spell "retribution."

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 12, 2022 01:36 PM (yHsuS)

I have a lot of strange spellings.

Posted by: ... at October 12, 2022 01:39 PM (NyJuk)

217 168
I hope that there isn't any long term repercussions from taking it, but it looks like many people have died and been injured by it. So far things don't look good for this medical experiment.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 12, 2022 01:34 PM (heQ4I)

Hearing how remnants of the vaccine are found in the brain, reproductive organs, breast milk, etc. -- I fear for my children and what it may have done to my potential grand children?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 12, 2022 01:39 PM (N39Ws)

218 How fast is the speed of science compared to something like, oh, I dunno, the speed of a 150-ish pound weight at the end of a 4-5 foot drop?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 01:34 PM (zhLdt)

I do believe that there is a chart for that calculation, from back in the good ol' days...

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at October 12, 2022 01:39 PM (BgMrQ)

219 Again, if the vaccine* had any meaningful effect on transmission and spread, that would have shown itself in a precipitous drop-off in transmission and infection as vast numbers of people were vaccinated around the f**king globe.

Instead we got the predictable and well understood cycles of infection as natural immunity took hold and corona virus natural tendency to become more infectious but less virulent has receded into the background of common circulating viruses.

We are not now and were not then, in the fall of 2020 at year one of our understanding of how respiratory viruses work and function.

Or alternatively..

Everything is an Op.
Everything is bullshit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 12, 2022 01:39 PM (up/3i)

220 Honestly, who would you sue?

The immunity package they got covers them, no?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 12, 2022 01:40 PM (6VKyY)

221 No one is owed an apology.

Almost every single person that took the shot, wanted the shot to assuage their fear of death.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 12, 2022 01:40 PM (heQ4I)

222
Re sterilizing vaccine. Example, measles vaccine. Once vaccinated (the vast majority) indeed become a "dead end" for the measles virus. This is what immunity (used to) mean. Once you got infected with something, and survived, your immune system learned how to fight it.

A vaccine conferred this immunity by means that didn't cause the actual infection and disease. Such as dead virus, or live attenuated virus. The result was the same as recovery from natural infection.

Once you have this immunity, you don't get infected. Your immune system quickly repels the invader before it gets started replicating in your body.

Thus you cannot transmit it, because your immune system destroys it before it builds up enough for you to transmit it.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 12, 2022 01:40 PM (Mzdiz)

223 I knew we were fucked when they silenced the guy who INVENTED mRNA and said "This isn't what it's for."

"SHUT UP!!!" they explained.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 12, 2022 01:40 PM (Zz0t1)

224 Ludicrous speed!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 12, 2022 01:40 PM (63Dwl)

225 Sciencing as fast as I can here!

Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist at October 12, 2022 01:40 PM (Vu7A1)

226 Is the "speed of science" measured in meters per second or is it more like the pain index? Or is it just measured in cow outputs?

Posted by: Corona Exile-Back_in_exile at October 12, 2022 01:40 PM (62BOJ)

227 Of course, Schwab is pleased by the compliance level. Bancel and Bourla are wagging their tails

Posted by: CN at October 12, 2022 01:40 PM (Zzbjj)

228 in fairness, I am never that interested in getting apologies, if they know that I was right and they were wrong that is enough.

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 12, 2022 01:40 PM (CJCTv)

229 The word you are looking for is "damages".

Posted by: ... at October 12, 2022 01:35 PM (NyJuk)
*
That's an odd way to spell "retribution."
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 12, 2022

***
"Lynching" and "crucifixion" are other words that come to mind. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 12, 2022 01:40 PM (J2vNu)

230 Not to be a jerk but is testing against transmission even a thing?

If a vaccine prevents people from getting infected that's what prevents transmission?

Does anyone ever test *any* vaccine for "transmission?"

Just honestly not sure this makes sense as a gotcha.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 12, 2022 01:29 PM (nqij7)
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I'm sure I got the virus (work daily in a medical environment with mostly elderly -- VA medical centers and clinics -- and nearly everybody I knew got it, sometimes multiple times), but I have a tremendous immune system having exercised all my life (and necessary dieting with age) and undoubtedly genetically blessed.

But I was asymptomatic (never a single symptom), and therefore could not transmit it to others. Point being that I imagine they could test for transmissible symptoms in clinical trial patients.

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 12, 2022 01:41 PM (8vUAO)

231 Speed of Science = Speed of Political Science

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 12, 2022 01:41 PM (lf83v)

232 Mitch McConnell pushed the jab for 18 months straight.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 12, 2022 01:41 PM (VaSD4)

233 Honestly, who would you sue?

The immunity package they got covers them, no?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 12, 2022 01:40 PM (6VKyY)

Not necessarily in the event of fraud (or conspiracy) on the organization granting them immunity.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 12, 2022 01:41 PM (yHsuS)

234
What, pray tell, is the "speed of science"?

0.9*c?

0.95*c?

???

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 12, 2022 01:41 PM (pNxlR)

235 We had to really move at the speed of science

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He's a 70 year old bureaucrat. How fast can he be?

Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 12, 2022 01:41 PM (sX1BW)

236 "Pandemic of the unvaccinated" implicitly suggests those getting the vaccine are not contagious.

I could repeat more of their grotesque mendacity but it's tiresome.

To suggest somehow that Big Pharma has anything in their defense, or that what they did was somehow routine for the release of a drug is not just ignorant, it is grossly misleading and uninformed.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 12, 2022 01:41 PM (QYQ5e)

237 221 No one is owed an apology.

Almost every single person that took the shot, wanted the shot to assuage their fear of death.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 12, 2022 01:40 PM (heQ4I

No. Some people took the shot because they were forced to or lose their livelihood.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 12, 2022 01:41 PM (6VKyY)

238 What scares me is the potential impact on fertility of the next generations.

Posted by: Oliver Wendell Holmes at October 12, 2022 01:41 PM (qyH+l)

239 Almost every single person that took the shot, wanted the shot to assuage their fear of death.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
___

Or get on a plane or cruise ship.

Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 01:41 PM (mVFGK)

240 No one is owed an apology.

Almost every single person that took the shot, wanted the shot to assuage their fear of death.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger

I am. For people telling me I was stupid, didn't know what I was talking about, what I was saying was dangerous, etc., when I was right all along.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2022 01:41 PM (CCIJK)

241 Well they knew the vaccine didn't stop all infections; they only promised a "92%" or whatever immunization rate. (Which was way over-optimistic.)

They could have followed up with vaccinated people to see if, after catching it, they spread it to household members.
Posted by: ace at October 1

...

But that would just be math, if you have some idea of the infection rate? This vaccine is X percent effective in blocking the actual illness so it gets the population to herd immunity over Y time after Z percent of the pop is vaccinated. I'm guessing they can model that.

Transmission seems like it's asking a different question. Like could someone be asymptomatic but still transmit?

Posted by: TexasDan at October 12, 2022 01:41 PM (qRWFl)

242 Has Moderna made any comment regarding the effectiveness of its vaccines related to transmission? What and where are their trials?
Posted by: Lady in Black

You actually believe they had legitimate trials?
How quaint.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 12, 2022 01:42 PM (JFmA+)

243 220 Honestly, who would you sue?

The immunity package they got covers them, no?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 12, 2022 01:40 PM (6VKyY)

Did those who received the immunity packages notice, in the very fine print at the bottom of page 9.

****helicopter rides included***

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at October 12, 2022 01:42 PM (BgMrQ)

244 https://tinyurl.com/465yse6d
French politician who almost became president says COVID "vaccine" nearly killed him Former French presidential candidate Jean Lassalle recently told NTD that Emmanuel Macron and other members of the French parliament are lying about their Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) "vaccination" status. The accusation is that Macron and the others never got jabbed [/b}but continue to tell the world that they did, which is hardly a shock. Lassalle also said that he did, in fact, really get jabbed himself last year and that it nearly killed him."I got the Johnson vaccine that almost killed me, that warped my heart," said Lassalle, who represented the 4th constituency of the PyreneesAtlantiques department in the National Assembly from 2002 to June 21, 2022. "I have had four surgeries since January 3rd of this year. And then there, it is in the Ambroise Pare clinic that the surgeon who trained with another one in the besides, succeeded in putting me the auricles in place, except to make them function normally," he added in a rough English translation-you get the point."Otherwise, I would certainly be dead."COVID jabs are the biggest hoax perpetrated on the world

Posted by: artisanal ette at October 12, 2022 01:42 PM (9qHsE)

245 but I have a tremendous immune system having exercised all my life (and necessary dieting with age) and undoubtedly genetically blessed.

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I got my tremendous immune system by living like a slob and sleeping with a cat's ass on my face.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 12, 2022 01:42 PM (Y5qcH)

246 What scares me is the potential impact on fertility of the next generations.

in fairness, I am ready coach

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 12, 2022 01:42 PM (CJCTv)

247 The science is *never* "settled." Never. The scientific method is one of disproving hypothesis. You can have concurrence. You can have zealotry. You can never have finality.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2022 01:25 PM (t0OGg)

From time to time I will watch a science-ish video on YT and the narrator will always say something to the effect that this new observation PROVES theory x, y, or z. Pisses me off so much.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 01:42 PM (zhLdt)

248 The Wifey and I are still in the control group. Thankfully, we both have educational and employment backgrounds that allowed us to sniff out the Covid reaction hoax early on. However, we didn't foresee the depths to which people would go to push the hoax or slavishly adhere to it.

We still marvel at (and pity) the people who walk, jog or ride bikes through our neighborhood, dutifully wearing their face wraps on 90+ degree days.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at October 12, 2022 01:43 PM (WySqD)

249 Spoiler alert
The Science ™ is bullshit. Always and completely

Posted by: Joe Shit for Brains at October 12, 2022 01:43 PM (YTBIQ)

250 The Speed of Science is much too fast for the scientific method.
Seriously, I wonder if the even teach the scientific method in schools anymore. It seriously undermines everything the communist left claims.

Posted by: espinostifer at October 12, 2022 01:43 PM (Ffl2s)

251 Almost every single person that took the shot, wanted the shot to assuage their fear of death.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
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Or get on a plane or cruise ship.

Or keep their job.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 12, 2022 01:43 PM (PzCft)

252 Almost every single person that took the shot, wanted the shot to assuage their fear of death.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
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Or get on a plane or cruise ship.
Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022

***
Or just to keep his job.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 12, 2022 01:43 PM (J2vNu)

253 Don't forget that California passed a law preventing doctors from questioning what the bureaucrats say.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at October 12, 2022 01:43 PM (5HBd1)

254 The more shit like this comes out, the more I understand the package of things that happened to me in March of 2020 that kept the jab away from me were a blessing, for all the troubles they brought.

Now to see what the rest of my troubles help me for...

Posted by: Brother Tim, still the worst commenter on the blog at October 12, 2022 01:43 PM (OUMaO)

255 Not to be a jerk but is testing against transmission even a thing?

If a vaccine prevents people from getting infected that's what prevents transmission?

Does anyone ever test *any* vaccine for "transmission?"

Just honestly not sure this makes sense as a gotcha.

Posted by: TexasDan

I only needed one smallpox and one polio vaccine.
I didn't get them or transmit them.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2022 01:43 PM (CCIJK)

256 Are they now going to weasel out of it by saying, well, we tested it later and it sorta stopped transmission?

In CA a lot of people have lost jobs over this shit, that they were endangering their fellow workers.

Posted by: Ultra pj at October 12, 2022 01:44 PM (G1dq6)

257 I don’t understand why some folks who get Covid are asymptotic.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 12, 2022 01:44 PM (dxllA)

258 No one is owed an apology.

Almost every single person that took the shot, wanted the shot to assuage their fear of death.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 12, 2022 01:40 PM

Nope, I know a whole bunch of people who had to take the shot or lose their job. Not a single exemption was granted at the VA.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 12, 2022 01:44 PM (bVYXr)

259 All the military personnel who lost their jobs.

The government using federal spending to force corporations to push the vax on employees.

The whole thing was such a huge clusterfuck.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 12, 2022 01:44 PM (6VKyY)

260 So, my vaccine card is worthless.

*sad trombone*

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 12, 2022 01:44 PM (lf83v)

261 Don't forget that California passed a law preventing doctors from questioning what the bureaucrats say.

The left: We can't let mere doctors go against what the government wants to give you for healthcare

Also the left: Government out of healthcare...post-birth abortion is a fundamental right!

Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 01:44 PM (ESjRY)

262 These foreigners are presenting themselves at a much higher level of professionalism than those from America.

I wouldn't want to be seen in public with that pig small.
And her answer; We had to move at the speed of science, is as professional as she looked.

The should be shamed, they should be prosecuted and never be allowed to work in the medical field again.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 12, 2022 01:44 PM (e72DJ)

263 Sorry we ruined your company.
Sorry we ruined your child's education.
Sorry we killed your cousin.
Sorry we gave you myocarditis.
Sorry we made your employer nuts.
Sorry we ruined your vacation.
So... we good now?

Posted by: Pfizer at October 12, 2022 01:44 PM (v0R5T)

264 I got my tremendous immune system by living like a slob and sleeping with a cat's ass on my face.
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This will harden any man.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 12, 2022 01:44 PM (8Sqzu)

265 Posted by: artisanal ette at October 12, 2022 01:42 PM (9qHsE)

There was a big scandal in Spain over this too. A pharma CEO and about 300 "elites" were caught with fake vax papers

Posted by: CN at October 12, 2022 01:44 PM (Zzbjj)

266 Question: Why hasn't this been asked before?

It's been asked repeatedly, and anyone who does so publicly gets censored, cancelled and/or banned.

Posted by: kallisto at October 12, 2022 01:44 PM (dCxaZ)

267 Question: Why hasn't this been asked before?

According to the newly released emails, Department of Homeland Security secretary Alejandro Mayorkas was aware the popular narrative that Border Patrol agents whipped a group of Haitian migrants was false hours before he declared the incident “horrific” during a White House press conference. One of Mayorkas’s staffers sent him an email less than three hours before the press conference relaying the account of photographer Paul Ratje, who took the viral photos and said the salacious account of what happened was false.

Question: Why hasn't Homeland Security secretary Alejandro Mayorkas been suspended by Twitter?

Posted by: SMOD at October 12, 2022 01:44 PM (RHGPo)

268 I wonder if Donald Trump has any comment about this.

Posted by: espinostifer at October 12, 2022 01:45 PM (Ffl2s)

269 in fairness, how angry would you be if you did the deblasio free fries for the vaxxed trade?

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 12, 2022 01:45 PM (CJCTv)

270
I am. For people telling me I was stupid, didn't know what I was talking about, what I was saying was dangerous, etc., when I was right all along.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2022 01:41 PM (CCIJK)

*fistbump*

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 12, 2022 01:45 PM (M9FHm)

271 If you were denied employment, you are owed an apology by your employer.

But you probably still work for them, willingly, even though they would do that to you.

I don't think I could work for an employer that would do that to me. In fact, if I did, it would be in a effort to bring that business to its knees from within.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 12, 2022 01:45 PM (heQ4I)

272 The earf revolves around the sun. The sun will appear from the east every morning.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2022 01:27 PM (CCIJK)

Those seem pretty solid but, if the sun ever rises in the north we'll know it was wrong.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 01:45 PM (zhLdt)

273 -------------------

I got my tremendous immune system by living like a slob and sleeping with a cat's ass on my face.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 12, 2022 01:42 PM (Y5qcH)

Human howz my ass taste?!?!?!

Posted by: Shaqitty O'Ditty at October 12, 2022 01:45 PM (Zz0t1)

274 There are conferences and events in NYC that to this day require you to be vaccinated to attend. Even in spite of all that's been revealed.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 12, 2022 01:45 PM (QYQ5e)

275 223 I knew we were fucked when they silenced the guy who INVENTED mRNA and said "This isn't what it's for."

"SHUT UP!!!" they explained.
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I knew we were fucked when we were promised 14 days to flatten the curve. If we mask up, social distance and lock down we can go back to normal once we meet our numbers. Not one M'fer in government afer 1,2,4 months of not meeting those numbers even questioned if the policy can even work? ... not one. Thats when I knew we were being taken for a ride.

Posted by: Haywood at October 12, 2022 01:45 PM (XiR6c)

276 How fast is the speed of science compared to something like, oh, I dunno, the speed of a 150-ish pound weight at the end of a 4-5 foot drop?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 01:34 PM (zhLdt)
I do believe that there is a chart for that calculation, from back in the good ol' days...
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at October 12, 2022 01:39 PM (BgMrQ)

The Army has a technical manual out on that, Dad had a copy for a law article he wrote. It has standards and weights.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 12, 2022 01:45 PM (xhaym)

277 I have been asked if I was vaccinated several times
I have never been asked for my card.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 12, 2022 01:46 PM (e72DJ)

278 269 in fairness, how angry would you be if you did the deblasio free fries for the vaxxed trade?
Posted by: confederatefifth at October 12, 2022 01:45 PM (CJCTv

Honestly, if you'd take the shot for free fries, I don't think you're the sharpest tool in the shed.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 12, 2022 01:46 PM (6VKyY)

279 I got my tremendous immune system by living like a slob and sleeping with a cat's ass on my face.

The twitter Karens will soon be denouncing people who don't sleep with a cat's ass on their face as science deniers and wanting to kill Grandma. Tim Tok influences will be posting videos of how to fashionably sleep with a cat's ass on your face.

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at October 12, 2022 01:46 PM (PzCft)

280 How much damage did these assholes do to Americans?
They should hang.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 12, 2022 01:46 PM (71xA2)

281 Alex Berenson: Only a few months ago, Australia had one of the world's most aggressive coercion programs to force Covid vaccines on its people.
Now Australia has essentially ended its Covid vaccination program for healthy adults under 50 - and effectively banned the shots for people under 30, unless they have severe chronic illnesses.
With the change, Australia joins Denmark in curtailing its vaccine program for adults under 50.
Last week, Norway went even further, saying no one under 65 should receive additional shots unless they were at underlying risk of a severe disease course (oddly, Norway kept its recommendation for pregnant women.)

Posted by: artisanal ette at October 12, 2022 01:46 PM (9qHsE)

282 It was the masks that stopped transmission. You had to wear a mask to keep from spreading it to others. You needed the vaccine to keep you from getting it from others because the masks could not stop all of the sprea-- You know what. It is complicated. Just shut the fuck up and do what science tells you!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022 01:46 PM (9BfnT)

283 100 percent safe and effective.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 12, 2022 01:46 PM (lf83v)

284 243 With Nobel Prize-winning economist Ben Bernanke?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 12, 2022 01:46 PM (dxllA)

285 I got my tremendous immune system by living like a slob and sleeping with a cat's ass on my face.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

Fistbump.
If you ever used a roller towel at a gas station to dry your hands, you are pretty much immune to everything.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2022 01:47 PM (CCIJK)

286 Pfizer deserves the Purdue treatment.

Posted by: mr tmz at October 12, 2022 01:47 PM (rJ48h)

287 Never been vaccinated nor had any booster shots--and never will.

In fact I put a moratorium on all injections regarding flu shots etc. Don't want anyone mistakenly injecting the wrong thing.

And that's where I stay.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 12, 2022 01:47 PM (KATBx)

288 8 How many people dead, either from the Covid shot or Covid itself. Thankfully, the government gave Pfizer immunity from lawsuits, so there's that.

Big Pharma was granted immunity from lawsuits decades ago. They were paying vaxx injury claims out the wazoo and they basically extorted immunity from Congress. They said they'd stop producing vaccines if they weren't granted immunity from claims.

So Congress' response to that was to set up a Vaccine Injury Kangaroo Court where hardly anyone who files is compensated, and there's a cap on the awards.

Posted by: kallisto at October 12, 2022 01:47 PM (dCxaZ)

289 The Army has a technical manual out on that, Dad had a copy for a law article he wrote. It has standards and weights.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 12, 2022 01:45 PM (xhaym)

That's where I saw it...

Thanks!

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at October 12, 2022 01:47 PM (BgMrQ)

290
The old ways are best, Europe, the old ways are best!

Tumbrels and pikes ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 12, 2022 01:47 PM (pNxlR)

291 I bet if they actually did study it they would have found an increase in transmission rates. Because the inoculations did blunt severe symptoms in many cases for variants through δ meaning that people would be *more* likely to have low grade infection and be asymptomatic carriers.

Posted by: mikethemoose at October 12, 2022 01:47 PM (T/vhV)

292 Australia never coerced anyone into taking the vaccine. In fact, they had one of the most lenient responses in the world.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022 01:47 PM (9BfnT)

293 If a vaccine prevents people from getting infected that's what prevents transmission?

Does anyone ever test *any* vaccine for "transmission?"

Just honestly not sure this makes sense as a gotcha.
Posted by: TexasDan at October 12, 2022 01:29 PM (nqij7)

Ah, but the covid shot isn't a traditional vaccine. It's an experimental ...something...

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 01:48 PM (zhLdt)

294 There are conferences and events in NYC that to this day require you to be vaccinated to attend. Even in spite of all that's been revealed.

you need to get out of there

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 12, 2022 01:48 PM (CJCTv)

295 I think the whole thing was an operation. When you build a house you need a whole list of materials to complete the project. Concrete block for the foundation, lumber for framing, door jams, doors, sheetrock. trim, plumbing, electrical, etc etc. I swear the evil cabal had found the linch-pin. How to turn the lights off on a civilization, replace it in darkness, throw the lights on and everything is different. How to kill off the old so they don't drain social security. How to kill a military's numbers, and make the ones remaining too sick to fight. How to break people and turn them into nazis so they finger their neighbors. How to determine who can be "counted on". Identify where the resistance would be by seeing who says fuck you, no shot for me. How to steal an election. How to break a population's will. How to destroy an economy. And on, and on, and on, and on, and on. And how to get rich doing it. Like building a house, the material list is long, and they found the way to complete that list overnight.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 12, 2022 01:48 PM (VwHCD)

296 263 Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca delenda sunt!

Posted by: CN at October 12, 2022 01:48 PM (Zzbjj)

297 No major media has even mentioned this yet.

Posted by: Ultra pj at October 12, 2022 01:48 PM (G1dq6)

298 just shut the fuck up and do what science tells you!

Especially when #Science! is travelling at speed

Posted by: kallisto at October 12, 2022 01:48 PM (dCxaZ)

299 And that's where I stay.
Posted by: irongrampa at October 12, 2022 01:47 PM (KATBx

Wise. My doctor asked me if I wanted the flu shot (the regular one).

I started laughing.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 12, 2022 01:48 PM (6VKyY)

300 Bill Nye's talking Vagina never claimed it was safe.
Just sayin'

Posted by: Beto Ochoa at October 12, 2022 01:48 PM (dzZCL)

301 f we mask up, social distance and lock down we can go back to normal once we meet our numbers. Not one M'fer in government afer 1,2,4 months of not meeting those numbers even questioned if the policy can even work? .

This is the way every leftist policies works.

First: If we do X we'll get benefit Y. ITS SCIENCE!

Then: We didn't get Y because we didn't do enough X. What do you mean we didn't say that before?!?

Finally: So like we promised from the start after multiple rounds of X we now got output Z just like we always said!

Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 01:48 PM (ESjRY)

302 I had 3 Pfizers, required by employer. Will not take another. Mrs. E had 3 Pfyzers, will not take another.

Posted by: Eromero at October 12, 2022 01:48 PM (0OP+5)

303 in fairness the did not force anybody to get vaxxed, they just imprisoned everybody that did not

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 12, 2022 01:49 PM (CJCTv)

304 If you were denied employment, you are owed an apology by your employer.

But you probably still work for them, willingly, even though they would do that to you.

I don't think I could work for an employer that would do that to me. In fact, if I did, it would be in a effort to bring that business to its knees from within.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 12, 2022

***
That threat business, among other things, is why I no longer have any respect for my employer and its underlings, and will be more than glad to retire and get away from here. I do not care about furthering the mission; I do the things I have to in order to keep my boss from yelling at me. That's all.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 12, 2022 01:49 PM (J2vNu)

305 So, in other words, they just admitted this is NOT A FUCKING VACCINE! AND THEY STILL FORCED EVERYONE AT GUNPOINT TO TAKE IT- ESPECIALLY IN EUROPE!!!

Motherfucking fascist hamster fuckers!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 12, 2022 01:49 PM (CwQXo)

306 Those of us who refused the clot shot were heroes.

I didn't get the shot but I'd like to say that the 'H' word gets overused.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 01:49 PM (zhLdt)

307 Rather than prosecuting car thieves, St. Louis wants to sue Kia and Hyundai for making their cars so easy to steal.

-
Well, it make sense to John Fetterman.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at October 12, 2022 01:49 PM (FVME7)

308 Israel did a forced vaccination and boasted over 90% vax rates.

Seems they self-exterminated.

Hitler, laughing, spreads his wings.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 12, 2022 01:49 PM (Zz0t1)

309 I bet if they actually did study it they would have found an increase in transmission rates. Because the inoculations did blunt severe symptoms in many cases for variants through δ meaning that people would be *more* likely to have low grade infection and be asymptomatic carriers.

Posted by: mikethemoose at October 12, 2022 01:47 PM

Read an article the other day where they are now saying that vaccinated people spread covid more than unvaccinated people do. If they can test for that now, they damn sure could have tested for it 2 years ago before they forced people to get the jab.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 12, 2022 01:49 PM (bVYXr)

310 Posted by: Ultra pj at October 12, 2022 01:48 PM (G1dq6)

why ever would they?

Posted by: kallisto at October 12, 2022 01:49 PM (dCxaZ)

311 The Trump Covid Clock is at 11:59. He'll be blamed for the vaccine in less than a year.

Posted by: MJ at October 12, 2022 01:49 PM (zwDuR)

312 My Dad had a bad reaction to the vaccine and ended up in a rehab facility for a couple of months until he could take care of himself again.

I finally got my kids to stop pestering me about it by explaining that I share genetics with my Dad. I see no reason at all to get the shot. I think that my kid who is trying to get pregnant was honest when I said please no boosters and they said "no boosters." Hope so, anyway. When they're grown ups they get to make their own decisions.

Posted by: Synova at October 12, 2022 01:49 PM (BD/yx)

313 They never asked whether masks actually worked, nor whether shutdowns and isolation actually worked because they already knew and didn't want the answers spoken out loud. So much so they silenced those answers online whenever they popped up
Posted by: mikethemoose

Yep, I'm convinced it was all an op to test some limits on societal control. They must be giddy now realizing how meek we've become.

I go back and forth on whether the wide-ranging adverse effects were part of the package, or really a blunder because it all was so rushed and untested.

However, I absolutely believe they are evil enough to have known it would kill and harm an unacceptable amount of people and push it anyway.

Posted by: Biergood at October 12, 2022 01:49 PM (FQWHA)

314 Weird. She said "stop immunizarion" rather than "stop transmission".

Also, she talks of $2 billion ar risk, but I thought Warp Speed mitigated the Pharma's risk.

Posted by: JM in Florida at October 12, 2022 01:49 PM (XwBNC)

315 "Small says, We had to really move at the speed of science..we had to do everything at risk." "

Including the not-revealed risk the mRNA junk would cause far more illness and deaths that it prevented.

Did anyone brief Trump about that possibility? If not, why not? Did Pfizer and Moderna executives along with Fauci and Birx, take on the job of making a nationwide risk assessment, a job that that elected officials have always had, and properly have?

Thousands of yards of strong hemp rope, thousands of lampposts, mRNA proponents, apologists, and tyrants; some assembly required.

Posted by: Gref at October 12, 2022 01:49 PM (AMIL/)

316 It was the masks that stopped transmission.

Except Target had racks and racks of masks WITH mirrors so you could try them on.

Let that percolate for a minute.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2022 01:50 PM (CCIJK)

317 >>...In fact, if I did, it would be in a effort to bring that business to its knees from within.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger a

Preach it.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 12, 2022 01:50 PM (VaSD4)

318 257 I don’t understand why some folks who get Covid are asymptotic.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 12, 2022 01:44 PM (dxllA)
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Related to that, I don't understand why some folks don't get covid, period. Like me. Wife had it, friends had it, mom had it, I was around crowds often, traveled multiple times on airplanes in 2020 and 2021 and this year, did not participate in the lockdown. I tested myself often simply out of curiosity in 2020 and last year. Never got it that I know of. If I did get it, it would have had to have been this year and asymptomatic because I don't test for it any more.

Posted by: Colonel Travis at October 12, 2022 01:50 PM (RG7Wy)

319 311 The Trump Covid Clock is at 11:59. He'll be blamed for the vaccine in less than a year.
Posted by: MJ at October 12, 2022 01:49 PM (zwDuR)

It's coming for sure

Posted by: It's me donna at October 12, 2022 01:50 PM (bs+z0)

320 308 Israel did a forced vaccination and boasted over 90% vax rates.

Seems they self-exterminated.

Hitler, laughing, spreads his wings.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 12, 2022 01:49 PM (Zz0t1)

They completely trusted Bourla

Posted by: CN at October 12, 2022 01:50 PM (Zzbjj)

321
Question: Why hasn't this been asked before?

__________

No one was allowed to. Is emergency, Comrade!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 12, 2022 01:50 PM (1Nxff)

322 That threat business, among other things, is why I no longer have any respect for my employer and its underlings, and will be more than glad to retire and get away from here. I do not care about furthering the mission; I do the things I have to in order to keep my boss from yelling at me. That's all.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 12, 2022 01:49 PM

Quiet quitting, it's all the rage now.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 12, 2022 01:50 PM (bVYXr)

323 Question: Why hasn't this been asked before?

It's been asked repeatedly, and anyone who does so publicly gets censored, cancelled and/or banned.
___

Yep.

It's been asked for the past two years, but of course, misinformation.

Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 01:50 PM (mVFGK)

324 I think the whole thing was an operation. When you build a house you need a whole list of materials to complete the project. Concrete block for the foundation, lumber for framing, door jams, doors, sheetrock. trim, plumbing, electrical, etc etc. I swear the evil cabal had found the linch-pin. How to turn the lights off on a civilization, replace it in darkness, throw the lights on and everything is different. How to kill off the old so they don't drain social security. How to kill a military's numbers, and make the ones remaining too sick to fight. How to break people and turn them into nazis so they finger their neighbors. How to determine who can be "counted on". Identify where the resistance would be by seeing who says fuck you, no shot for me. How to steal an election. How to break a population's will. How to destroy an economy. And on, and on, and on, and on, and on. And how to get rich doing it. Like building a house, the material list is long, and they found the way to complete that list overnight.
Posted by: B

yes

Posted by: confederatefifth at October 12, 2022 01:50 PM (CJCTv)

325 I am a pure blood. No vaxxes. Heh!

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 12, 2022 01:50 PM (QSjkU)

326 294 There are conferences and events in NYC that to this day require you to be vaccinated to attend. Even in spite of all that's been revealed.
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After being spanked by the Supremes NYC is making Times Square gun free, again. NYC is special. We should all send money to NYC cuz they are Americans and totes patriotic.

Posted by: Puddinhead at October 12, 2022 01:51 PM (8Sqzu)

327 Australia never coerced anyone into taking the vaccine. In fact, they had one of the most lenient responses in the world.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022

***
Yes, when compared to the Nazi-modeled regime John Gill instituted.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 12, 2022 01:51 PM (J2vNu)

328 So Congress' response to that was to set up a Vaccine Injury Kangaroo Court where hardly anyone who files is compensated, and there's a cap on the awards.
Posted by: kallisto at October 12, 2022 01:47 PM (dCxaZ)

The legal cause of action will come from redefining what a vaccine is, under the law which created the Board.

Under the current 'definition'... Aspirin is a vaccine, as it mitigates symptoms... as is just about any other medicine.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 01:51 PM (oHd/0)

329 I had 3 Pfizers, required by employer.

Two, required by employer. No boosters, no problems 18 months later. The VAERS and other data leans towards being under 40 and getting multiple boosters as the major risk factors thus far so we'll see.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 12, 2022 01:51 PM (ZGrMX)

330 Bob Roos is from a Conservative Party, has blonde hair, and an orange face and likes to wear a red tie

Hmmm

Posted by: JoeF. at October 12, 2022 01:51 PM (mR6Gs)

331 War Department Pamphlet No. 27-4, Procedure for Military Executions, is published for the information and guidance of all concerned

Issued in 1944

Posted by: Kindltot at October 12, 2022 01:51 PM (xhaym)

332 It was the masks that stopped transmission. You had to wear a mask to keep from spreading it to others. You needed the vaccine to keep you from getting it from others because the masks could not stop all of the sprea-- You know what. It is complicated. Just shut the fuck up and do what science tells you!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022 01:46 PM (9BfnT)

lol

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 12, 2022 01:51 PM (yHsuS)

333 All these fuckers should swing.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 12, 2022 01:51 PM (M9FHm)

334 The Trump Covid Clock is at 11:59. He'll be blamed for the vaccine in less than a year.

Some healthy young news anchor died recently. It came out eventually it was suicide.

But I was reading the comments on the initial stories and it was full of leftwing commenters blaming the "Trump shot" for killing her.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 01:51 PM (ESjRY)

335 Does anyone ever test *any* vaccine for "transmission?"

Just honestly not sure this makes sense as a gotcha.
Posted by: TexasDan at October 12, 2022 01:29 PM (nqij7)

Vaccines, as a side effect, prevent the spread. The disease enters your body and due to the already present, specific antibodies, gets slaughtered. Vaccines essentially turn your body into a roach motel- viruses enter, but they don't leave.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 12, 2022 01:51 PM (CwQXo)

336 I don't think I could work for an employer that would do that to me. In fact, if I did, it would be in a effort to bring that business to its knees from within.

at my workplace everyone was pressured to get the jab. (we are public-facing). I told employer that I'm allergic to almost everything Big Pharma has to offer, I've got a toolbox full of immunity supplements, and thanks but no thanks. I made the decision (internally) if they pressed the issue I would just quit.

They never pressed.

Posted by: kallisto at October 12, 2022 01:51 PM (dCxaZ)

337 Who the hell has a company name starting with Pf?

The only other word in the English dictionary is pfenning, and even that is German.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at October 12, 2022 01:51 PM (w9Wax)

338 Except Target had racks and racks of masks WITH mirrors so you could try them on.

Let that percolate for a minute.
Posted by: rickb223
___

lol

It's just like trying on sunglasses!

Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 01:52 PM (mVFGK)

339 318
Related to that, I don't understand why some folks don't get covid, period. Like me. Wife had it, friends had it, mom had it, I was around crowds often, traveled multiple times on airplanes in 2020 and 2021 and this year, did not participate in the lockdown. I tested myself often simply out of curiosity in 2020 and last year. Never got it that I know of. If I did get it, it would have had to have been this year and asymptomatic because I don't test for it any more.
Posted by: Colonel Travis at October 12, 2022 01:50 PM (RG7Wy)

I've been directly exposed 3-4 times through coworkers or neighbors. I credit my not getting Covid to bourbon. 1-2 fingers in a rocks glass each night for a few nights after exposure.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at October 12, 2022 01:52 PM (N39Ws)

340 There was a big scandal in Spain over this too. A pharma CEO and about 300 "elites" were caught with fake vax papers
Posted by: CN at October 12, 2022 01:44 PM (Zzbjj)

Yes, there are millions who paid for fake cards. I know some that got it. You had to be in the know. It was word of mouth only. Most of the wealthy avoided it this way.

Posted by: artisanal ette at October 12, 2022 01:52 PM (9qHsE)

341 I had 3 Pfizers, required by employer. Will not take another. Mrs. E had 3 Pfyzers, will not take another.
Posted by: Eromero at October 12, 2022 01:48 PM (0OP+5)
.........

I had one. I'd rather shoot heroin.

Posted by: wth at October 12, 2022 01:52 PM (v0R5T)

342 316 It was the masks that stopped transmission.

Except Target had racks and racks of masks WITH mirrors so you could try them on.

Let that percolate for a minute.
Posted by: rickb223 a
Evidently Gov. Kate Brown doesn't own or use a mirror.

https://tinyurl.com/3tu6zzdu

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 12, 2022 01:52 PM (VaSD4)

343 319 311 The Trump Covid Clock is at 11:59. He'll be blamed for the vaccine in less than a year.
Posted by: MJ at October 12, 2022 01:49 PM (zwDuR)

It's coming for sure
Posted by: It's me donna at October 12, 2022 01:50 PM (bs+z0)

Yup, he needs to get in front of this... he needs to do a MAJOR speech, explaining how he was lied to.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 01:52 PM (oHd/0)

344 Fvck 'em all...

I'll have justice, in this life, or the next.

Posted by: Maximus Decimus Meridius at October 12, 2022 01:52 PM (BgMrQ)

345 I have heard--and I think we had Faucis video here from pre Covid days explaining this mechanism--that if a vaccination is not effective enough that it can make the spread of a disease increase.

If that's the transmission test then yeah they already admitted elsewhere that they skipped that step. IIRC those trials take years.

Posted by: TexasDan at October 12, 2022 01:52 PM (3CNKb)

346 323 Question: Why hasn't this been asked before?

It's been asked repeatedly, and anyone who does so publicly gets censored, cancelled and/or banned.
___

Yep.

It's been asked for the past two years, but of course, misinformation.
Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 01:50 PM (mVFGK)
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When I realized you could not ask questions, which was way early in 2020, I understood this was about control vs. anything else. Scary as hell what happened all over the world.

Posted by: Colonel Travis at October 12, 2022 01:52 PM (RG7Wy)

347 I am a pure blood. No vaxxes. Heh!
Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 12, 2022 01:50 PM (QSjkU)

Non-GMO FTW, baby.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 12, 2022 01:52 PM (Zz0t1)

348 The Trump Covid Clock is at 11:59. He'll be blamed for the vaccine in less than a year.

Lefties on Twitter already have started blaming Trump for the vax. It's not yet widespread, but wait until he announces for 2024.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 12, 2022 01:53 PM (ZGrMX)

349 I wonder how many Democrats murdered their children with the vaxx? Retroactive abortion? Are they proud of themselves for their stupidity?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 12, 2022 01:53 PM (QSjkU)

350 Like building a house, the material list is long, and they found the way to complete that list overnight.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 12, 2022 01:48 PM (VwHCD)

No project ever came in under budget and ahead of schedule. Rush jobs will screw with any plan

Posted by: Kindltot at October 12, 2022 01:53 PM (xhaym)

351 311 The Trump Covid Clock is at 11:59. He'll be blamed for the vaccine in less than a year.
Posted by: MJ at October 12, 2022 01:49 PM (zwDuR)

Do you think thats unfair?

Posted by: espinostifer at October 12, 2022 01:53 PM (Ffl2s)

352 Remember the Twitterazis demanding that unvaxxed people be denied social security and Medicare?

Remember doctors saying they won't treat people who are unvaxxed?

Fun times.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 12, 2022 01:53 PM (6VKyY)

353 Related to that, I don't understand why some folks don't get covid, period.

A study came out in the summer of '20 that exposure to Human Coronavirus 043 (the corona virus version of the flu) gives resistance if not immunity to COVID.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 01:53 PM (ESjRY)

354 Yep.

It's been asked for the past two years, but of course, misinformation.

Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 01:50 PM (mVFGK)

Some very courageous doctors and other medical professionals bucked the system, usually at great cost.

Posted by: kallisto at October 12, 2022 01:53 PM (dCxaZ)

355 So did later tests show the "vaccine" stopped transmission? Not that they should release the product before it's shown to, uh, work.

Posted by: JM in Florida at October 12, 2022 01:53 PM (XwBNC)

356 tremendous immune system by

Public Transportation. My doc confirmed this even before the chinee commie flu.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at October 12, 2022 01:53 PM (FOGs2)

357 Hitler, laughing, spreads his wings.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 12, 2022 01:49 PM (Zz0t1)

Shaka, when the walls fell!

Wait, what are we doing?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 12, 2022 01:54 PM (CwQXo)

358 351 311 The Trump Covid Clock is at 11:59. He'll be blamed for the vaccine in less than a year.
Posted by: MJ at October 12, 2022 01:49 PM (zwDuR)

Do you think thats unfair?
Posted by: espinostifer at October 12, 2022 01:53 PM (Ffl2s)

Trump never forced anyone to take it. I'd say that makes a huge difference to me.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 12, 2022 01:54 PM (CwQXo)

359 The Trump Covid Clock is at 11:59. He'll be blamed for the vaccine in less than a year.
Posted by: MJ at October 12, 2022 01:49 PM (zwDuR)

It's coming for sure
Posted by: It's me donna at October 12, 2022 01:50 PM (bs+z0)

I've been saying this too, but it won't work.
It would require an amount of cognitive dissonance that would easily make the average Lefty's head explode like in Scanners

Posted by: JoeF. at October 12, 2022 01:54 PM (mR6Gs)

360 I have three immediate family members who I have not seen face-to-face since this bullshit started. They remain totally convinced the my unjabbed status presents a clear and present danger to them. Since there seems to be no reasoning with them, I've given up at any chance of reconciliation.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 12, 2022 01:54 PM (Xrfse)

361
If we had done nothing about COVID, would it have been any worse?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 12, 2022 01:54 PM (1Nxff)

362 So the Treasury Dept. is auditing DeSantis for the illegals he flew out of FL.

Posted by: It's me donna at October 12, 2022 01:55 PM (bs+z0)

363 And on, and on, and on, and on, and on. And how to get rich doing it. Like building a house, the material list is long, and they found the way to complete that list overnight.
Posted by: B
yes
Posted by: confederatefifth at October 12, 2022 01:50 PM (CJCTv)

no doubt

Posted by: artisanal ette at October 12, 2022 01:55 PM (9qHsE)

364 Facebook fact-checkers will of course issue corrections.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 12, 2022 01:55 PM (lf83v)

365 Remember the Twitterazis demanding that unvaxxed people be denied social security and Medicare?

Yes, and also the tw@tterazis who insisted we be force-jabbed.

Posted by: kallisto at October 12, 2022 01:55 PM (dCxaZ)

366
Rather than prosecuting car thieves, St. Louis wants to sue Kia and Hyundai for making their cars so easy to steal.

I remember TV spots in the 60's about not leaving keys in your car. The tagline was "Don't make a good boy go bad"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 12, 2022 01:55 PM (63Dwl)

367 The Army has a technical manual out on that, Dad had a copy for a law article he wrote. It has standards and weights.
Posted by: Kindltot at October 12, 2022 01:45 PM (xhaym)

*******

My Intro to Engineering Physics textbook had this sort of problem in it, and interestingly enough, all if the relevant measurements were made and transcribed by cats and dogs.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at October 12, 2022 01:55 PM (TnqVo)

368 But the transmission of Taxpayer cash to Pfizer coffers is exceeding all projections.

Posted by: JB1000 at October 12, 2022 01:55 PM (T0r1g)

369 Help me out here but I think what happens is that if the antibodies the vaccine causes the body to create are not effective against a mutated version of the virus, they could still be similar enough that the body doesn't figure out to make new antibodies.

Something like that. The individual is literally more vulnerable and cannot defend against the infection and of course transmission of the effective version of the virus goes up as everyone gets very sick

Posted by: TexasDan at October 12, 2022 01:55 PM (3CNKb)

370 Does anyone ever test *any* vaccine for "transmission?"

Just honestly not sure this makes sense as a gotcha.
Posted by: TexasDan at October 12, 2022 01:29 PM (nqij7)

Vaccines, as a side effect, prevent the spread. The disease enters your body and due to the already present, specific antibodies, gets slaughtered. Vaccines essentially turn your body into a roach motel- viruses enter, but they don't leave.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 12, 2022 01:51 PM (CwQXo)

But since this wasn't an actual vaccine because it didn't prevent the illness, the general fact that vaccines can't transmit is irrelevant, isn't it?

Posted by: LASue at October 12, 2022 01:55 PM (Ed8Zd)

371 Some very courageous doctors and other medical professionals bucked the system, usually at great cost.
Posted by: kallisto
___

Yep, and God bless them, they're still sounding the alarms.

Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 01:55 PM (mVFGK)

372 What does “speed of science” mean? Feel like it is the slogan on their break room walls.

Posted by: Piper at October 12, 2022 01:56 PM (0GTCG)

373 It was the masks that stopped transmission.

Except Target had racks and racks of masks WITH mirrors so you could try them on.

Let that percolate for a minute.
Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2022 01:50 PM (CCIJK)
........

Hmm. Don't like this one. *puts it back*
Does this one look better? *cough cough* puts it back*
Now this one is cute!

Posted by: wth at October 12, 2022 01:56 PM (v0R5T)

374 It would require an amount of cognitive dissonance that would easily make the average Lefty's head explode like in Scanners

Lefties have to handle that amount of dissonance all the time. As I said upthread, some Twitter lefties have already started blaming Trump for vax injuries which means it's a matter of time before the MSM picks it up.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 12, 2022 01:56 PM (ZGrMX)

375 BTW, when all the stink has risen from this hoax, the lawsuits will be coming thick and fast, especially the businesses who forced their employees to submit to government mandated death.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 12, 2022 01:56 PM (QSjkU)

376 I recently lost a co worker, not really a close friend, more of an acquaintance. He was feeling ok one minute, the next minute he puts his head down on his desk and is gone.
Age 49, wife and 2 kids.
I suppose these things have always happened but there sure seems to be an uptick in sudden, unexplained deaths.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, partly cloudy, clearing in the afternoon at October 12, 2022 01:57 PM (jTmQV)

377 316 Plus, no one treated used masks like biohazards. Just left ‘em lying around wherever.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 12, 2022 01:57 PM (dxllA)

378 “speed of science” = Thomas Dolby's amphetamines.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 12, 2022 01:57 PM (lf83v)

379 >> If we had done nothing about COVID, would it have been any worse?

No. In fact, it would've been better. The Covid mitigation efforts, all of them, did more harm than good.

They actually knew most of this. They threw out the book on respiratory virus pandemics, and why I don't know. Hysteria may be one reason, but there were other, darker reasons too.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 12, 2022 01:57 PM (Mzdiz)

380 360 I have three immediate family members who I have not seen face-to-face since this bullshit started. They remain totally convinced the my unjabbed status presents a clear and present danger to them. Since there seems to be no reasoning with them, I've given up at any chance of reconciliation.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 12, 2022 01:54 PM (Xrfse)

We had three sets of family members who refused to attend kid2's wedding as we were not mandating vax and masks. I understand. When one of the wives died, I refused to attend the funeral. I have no intention of seeing them again.

Posted by: CN at October 12, 2022 01:57 PM (Zzbjj)

381 If we had done nothing about COVID, would it have been any worse?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 12, 2022 01:54 PM

I have read good arguments that if we did nothing except isolate the elderly and vulnerable we would have been better off. No way to prove it now, but I suspect they are correct.

The next "plandemic" is gonna be a doozy and I have $50 that says it starts in the summer of 2024.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 12, 2022 01:57 PM (bVYXr)

382 the "speed of science" is very slow, for many good reasons, including competency and accuracy. They moved much faster than this for several reasons, including greed and Trump's insistence on a 'vaccine' being on the shelf as soon as possible. So... corners were cut, testing was minimal if done at all, etc.

I mean describing this as a vaccine is idiotic, it does not prevent or cure anything, it at best reduces symptoms. By that definition an aspirin is a vaccine for cancer.

But even putting that aside, the promises and claims made by people over this crud, while sweeping the sometimes extremely severe side effects under the rug, then attacking banning, and even firing people for pointing any of this out is the real evil here.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 12, 2022 01:57 PM (Ivdso)

383 Even if you concede that the Fierce Urgency of Now during the covid pandemic didn't allow for testing -- even if -- how can one say that the urgency also permitted lying about the vaccine's effectiveness in stopping the transmission of covid?!!

since they didn't test, they didn't know it was a lie. it isn't a lie if you believe it.

Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda at October 12, 2022 01:57 PM (oY6Yp)

384 But since this wasn't an actual vaccine because it didn't prevent the illness, the general fact that vaccines can't transmit is irrelevant, isn't it?
Posted by: LASue at October 12, 2022 01:55 PM (Ed8Zd)

He was saying it was a non-sequitur, I was explaining that for a normal vaccine (or real vaccine) no one really tests it for transmission, but it stops transmission by doing what it is supposed to do- preventing viral loads from ever getting high enough to be shed by the body.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 12, 2022 01:57 PM (CwQXo)

385 And I got a postcard from the state encouraging me to get boosted. They need to read the damn room.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2022 01:58 PM (t0OGg)

386 >>>258 No one is owed an apology.
Almost every single person that took the shot, wanted the shot to assuage their fear of death.

That's irrelevant. Everyone who took the shot was lied to about the potential risks. The risks were known by all the pharmas and the FDA. And were suppressed.

Every medical decision has a "risk/reward" structure. People were lied to about the risks of contracting COVID. Lied to about the efficacy of the inoculations. And Lied to about the risks of inoculation. How are they supposed to make good decisions when they are being consistently lied to by almost everyone? Everyone who lied to get these people to make a risky decision not only owes them an apology they should at a minimum owe jail time.

Posted by: mikethemoose at October 12, 2022 01:58 PM (T/vhV)

387 Like building a house, the material list is long, and they found the way to complete that list overnight.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 12, 2022 01:48 PM (VwHCD)

No project ever came in under budget and ahead of schedule. Rush jobs will screw with any plan

Posted by: Kindltot at October 12, 2022 01:53 PM (xhaym)

The saving grace is that Government is generally good at nothing.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 12, 2022 01:58 PM (yHsuS)

388 We could have stopped the spread by having folks use nasal sprays that kill the virus. We could have put effort into getting people to take vitamin D supplements. We could have done what Sweden did, let healthy people get it and protect those at risk. We could have stopped incentivizing the use of vents and Remdesivir when studies showed how deadly they were. We could have shown some common sense and kept infected people away from nursing homes.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at October 12, 2022 01:58 PM (5HBd1)

389
Yeah, my shitty doc kept haranguing me about getting the fucking clotshot, damn near screaming at me. Until he didn't. Now I don't hear a peep about the damned shots.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 12, 2022 01:58 PM (T7Na6)

390 @257

>>I don’t understand why some folks who get Covid are asymptotic.

There are numerous respiratory viruses and hundreds of variants continuously circulating in human populations, some people get sick, some people don't get sick, some people get sick and don't show symptoms, some people die.

Thank G-d for giving you an immune system, which isn't some right-wing conspiracy theory.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 12, 2022 01:58 PM (up/3i)

391 Some very courageous doctors and other medical professionals bucked the system, usually at great cost.
Posted by: kallisto at October 12, 2022 01:53 PM (dCxaZ)

San Diego pediatric nurse fired for asking why obvious clot shots deaths of children weren't reported to VAERS.

https://tinyurl.com/3j46cj9k

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 12, 2022 01:59 PM (AiZBA)

392 385 And I got a postcard from the state encouraging me to get boosted. They need to read the damn room.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2022 01:58 PM (t0OGg)

I saw a news bit earlier this week or at the end of last week where they were encouraging all pregnant women to get the vaxx. It is getting harder and harder not to rage stroke.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 12, 2022 01:59 PM (CwQXo)

393 Good afternoon all!
My 17-year-old son has several teammates on his travel ball team whose moms forced them to get the clot shot. I absolutely refused to allow him to get it. I now worry for their health and their futures. These people are evil.

Posted by: jmel at October 12, 2022 01:59 PM (bVhJi)

394 Wise. My doctor asked me if I wanted the flu shot (the regular one).

I started laughing.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 12, 2022 01:48 PM (6VKyY)

Too many people are now getting the covid jab by mistake when asking for the flu shot. Not a mistake, it's money in their pocket for every vial they use. Now that they are going to combine both in one, forget it. This is an op alright. Now they are dumping the poison as a trojan horse in flu shots.

Posted by: artisanal ette at October 12, 2022 01:59 PM (9qHsE)

395 351 311 The Trump Covid Clock is at 11:59. He'll be blamed for the vaccine in less than a year.
Posted by: MJ at October 12, 2022 01:49 PM (zwDuR)

Do you think thats unfair?
Posted by: espinostifer at October 12, 2022 01:53 PM (Ffl2s)

I only think it's unfair in that he's blamed for Covid outcomes that would have occurred no matter who was Pres. He was blamed for stopping travel and then not stopping enough travel and for closing down the economy when he was blamed for not closing it hard enough, etc., etc.,

Warp Speed was his. It was delayed after the election to get him. Kamala and others vowed to never ever take his shot. Then they changed to demanding it.

One thing that Trump didn't do at all was try to mandate the vaccinations.

So I think it's a bit unfair to blame him for fast tracking the vaccine and a bit unfair to blame him for what mostly-Democrats did with it afterward.

Posted by: Synova at October 12, 2022 01:59 PM (BD/yx)

396 Any science that claims to be settled is by definition a hoax.

Posted by: ... at October 12, 2022 01:59 PM (PNAh6)

397 No. In fact, it would've been better. The Covid mitigation efforts, all of them, did more harm than good. ...
Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 12, 2022 01:57 PM (Mzdiz)
++++
Absolutely. Whether it made COVID transmission itself worse is an open question, but the "cure" - even if it had worked, which it didn't - was far worse than the disease.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2022 01:59 PM (t0OGg)

398 >> but I think what happens is that if the antibodies the vaccine causes the body to create are not effective against a mutated version of the virus,

That effect is called OAS, or original antigenic sin.

That can happen naturally, even, Dengue fever being an example. Get infected with one, survive, and then get infected with another strain, and things are much worse.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 12, 2022 01:59 PM (Mzdiz)

399 I have three immediate family members who I have not seen face-to-face since this bullshit started. They remain totally convinced the my unjabbed status presents a clear and present danger to them. Since there seems to be no reasoning with them, I've given up at any chance of reconciliation.
Posted by: Notorious BFD
___

My kids want to see their grandparents down in Orlando in February/March of next year. My parents have stated if you are not jabbed, do not visit.
My kids don't believe them.
They're about to encounter some heartache.

Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 01:59 PM (mVFGK)

400 318 257 I don’t understand why some folks who get Covid are asymptotic.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 12, 2022 01:44 PM (dxllA)
--------------

Related to that, I don't understand why some folks don't get covid, period. Like me. Wife had it, friends had it, mom had it, I was around crowds often, traveled multiple times on airplanes in 2020 and 2021 and this year, did not participate in the lockdown. I tested myself often simply out of curiosity in 2020 and last year. Never got it that I know of. If I did get it, it would have had to have been this year and asymptomatic because I don't test for it any more.

Posted by: Colonel Travis at October 12, 2022 01:50 PM (RG7Wy)

I do not think I've had the COVID disease. Have I inhaled the virus that causes COVID? I have no way of knowing. I never got tested. I was not required to for work - I'm retired. I wore a mask only when I had to go to stores for essentials or for visits to my dentist and allergy doc. Since COVID hit the US in late Feb 2000, I've not had a cold or flu or any respiratory illness. I expect many tens of millions in the US alone are the same as me.

Posted by: Gref at October 12, 2022 02:00 PM (AMIL/)

401 This is misinformation......

https://is.gd/hKqTi9

BAN ALL THE THINGS!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 12, 2022 02:00 PM (Zz0t1)

402 If we had done nothing about COVID, would it have been any worse?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 12, 2022 01:54 PM (1Nxff)

TWO WEEKS TO FLATTEN THE CURVE

Posted by: SCIENCE at October 12, 2022 02:00 PM (v0R5T)

403 And I got a postcard from the state encouraging me to get boosted. They need to read the damn room.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2022 01:58 PM (t0OGg)

commercials in Canada pushing on the little kids to this day

sick evil dark

Posted by: artisanal ette at October 12, 2022 02:00 PM (9qHsE)

404 A few of us, from the beginning of the Wuflu panic, warned as strongly as we could that ALL of it was a political op.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 12, 2022 02:00 PM (BdMk6)

405 Fauci, Birx and all the rest can prove to me how safe the vaccines are by simply mainlining the vaccine. Inject it right into an artery.

let's see how they deal with it.

Posted by: rd at October 12, 2022 02:00 PM (Z32m1)

406
I have read good arguments that if we did nothing except isolate the elderly and vulnerable we would have been better off. No way to prove it now, but I suspect they are correct.

__________

My brother is a professor at Stanford Medical School and he and I agree, rather to my surprise, that those arguments are correct.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 12, 2022 02:00 PM (1Nxff)

407 Other big lies from "the science":

-Humans are destroying the world through damaging the atmosphere, causing climate change

-Salt causes high blood pressure and heart disease

-Radon Gas is dangerous and must be mitigated or you are doomed

There are a lot of others, but some would be so explosively controversial I don't want to derail the entire thread by mentioning them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 12, 2022 02:01 PM (Ivdso)

408 I look forward to Sen. Paul going full flame thrower on Dr. Faustis about this. The gnome retires in December, so Sen. Paul has time.

Posted by: fly gal at October 12, 2022 02:01 PM (XwqDD)

409 As I understand once the "vax" is on the schedule of vaccines for children they cannot be held liable.
Posted by: Haywood at October 12, 2022 01:37 PM (XiR6c)

Permit me to preface this statement with "I, in no way, advocate or endorse violence towards anyone".

Once the fall happens, once civilization is destroyed as part of their BBB nonsense, financial liability will be the least of their concerns.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 02:01 PM (zhLdt)

410 Even the claim that getting the shot will make your Covid less severe is an un-provable assertion.

I'd say it is provable.

Track say 10K people with the clot shot and boosters vs 10K people without.

Measure how many die from COVID, and other causes, each month and supply age/weight/race data.

Note the government HAS this data. And it will NOT share it. So...what do you think it shows?
Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 01:25 PM (ESjRY)
==
I thought the brits had already proven the shot actually made you more susceptible to reinfection and more serious complications from covid than those who didn't get the shot.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 12, 2022 02:01 PM (xWZcb)

411
Related to that, I don't understand why some folks don't get covid, period. Like me. Wife had it, friends had it, mom had it, I was around crowds often, traveled multiple times on airplanes in 2020 and 2021 and this year, did not participate in the lockdown. I tested myself often simply out of curiosity in 2020 and last year. Never got it that I know of. If I did get it, it would have had to have been this year and asymptomatic because I don't test for it any more.

------

I'm in the same boat. A lot of people are immune to it; I suspect that I'm one of them.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 12, 2022 02:01 PM (oINRc)

412 51 "... we really had to move at the speed of science to really understand what is taking place in the market."

Hmmm. "market" + "science" = economics.
The truth slips out.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 12, 2022 01:22 PM (AiZBA)

^ This. Why is nobody else talking about this scumbag admitting they skipped testing in order to be first to market?

Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at October 12, 2022 02:01 PM (pkTq0)

413 Any science that claims to be settled is by definition a hoax.

Posted by: ... at October 12, 2022 01:59 PM (PNAh6)

There it is.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 12, 2022 02:01 PM (yHsuS)

414 And I got a postcard from the state encouraging me to get boosted. They need to read the damn room.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2022 01:58 PM (t0OGg)

They are still spending Covid grants. That was scheduled AND it was probably printed by some dear friend's business

Posted by: Kindltot at October 12, 2022 02:02 PM (xhaym)

415 Thousands will die from the Fake Vax and they will get away with it

Posted by: Skip's phone at October 12, 2022 02:02 PM (UcsuX)

416 Death is too kind

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at October 12, 2022 02:02 PM (8Qoxs)

417 385 And I got a postcard from the state encouraging me to get boosted. They need to read the damn room.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 12, 2022 01:58 PM (t0OGg)

in PA, over 9 million residents got at least one jab. Less than 10 per cent of that number have the pleasure of enjoying all the boosters.

Posted by: kallisto at October 12, 2022 02:02 PM (dCxaZ)

418 Mom only got the initial vax (J&J.) Dad I think got Moderna and 1 booster. I did not tell them not to, I just made no secret of my distrust of this 'vaccine'. They are both in their 70s and I thought it improbable that they were actually harmful- just that they did not work- because they are not an actual vaccine.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 12, 2022 02:02 PM (CwQXo)

419 >>> 407 Other big lies from "the science":

-Humans are destroying the world through damaging the atmosphere, causing climate change

-Salt causes high blood pressure and heart disease

-Radon Gas is dangerous and must be mitigated or you are doomed

There are a lot of others, but some would be so explosively controversial I don't want to derail the entire thread by mentioning them.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 12, 2022 02:01 PM (Ivdso)

You're not going to admit to putting carrots in your chili, are you?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 12, 2022 02:02 PM (llON8)

420 Speed of Science = Operation Warp Speed.

Trump will get the blame.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 12, 2022 02:02 PM (VaSD4)

421 381 The next "plandemic" is gonna be a doozy and I have $50 that says it starts in the summer of 2024.

we talking 2022 dollars or 2024 dollars? not sure i want to trade something as solid as a 2022 dollar for something as worthless as a 2024 dollar.

Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda at October 12, 2022 02:02 PM (oY6Yp)

422 Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 01:59 PM (mVFGK)

The grandparents have no right to demand that kids are put at risk by these shots, even if it protects the oldsters. My husband and I had that conversation, too. "Do you want to have the boys risk myocarditis for your peace of mind, asked I. He backed down.

Posted by: CN at October 12, 2022 02:02 PM (Zzbjj)

423 Oh, and one more thing. We never tested it to see if the vaccine could kill you.

Posted by: Pfizer Fuck Ups at October 12, 2022 02:02 PM (gmo/4)

424 Permit me to preface this statement with "I, in no way, advocate or endorse violence towards anyone".

Once the fall happens, once civilization is destroyed as part of their BBB nonsense, financial liability will be the least of their concerns.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic

At that point, the law is what you have on your hip.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2022 02:03 PM (CCIJK)

425 Thousands will die from the Fake Vax and they will get away with it
___

Try millions.
Not to mention young men and women who will never have chilcren.

Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 02:03 PM (mVFGK)

426
I'm forgetting, I've read so much, but I think only about 20% of the population was really susceptible to severe Covid.

Remember that cruise ship, the Diamond Princess. Only 20% there got infected. You had passengers, husband and wife say, locked up in the same cabin. One would get sick, while the other wouldn't even get the sniffles.

And that 20% has appeared to hold.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 12, 2022 02:03 PM (Mzdiz)

427 Let's not forget John McAfee's warning on Feb 5, 2020:

"Do NOT, under any circumstances, take the vaccine!!!"

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at October 12, 2022 02:03 PM (QYPq3)

428 U sux isn't much better than VeeJaj

Posted by: Skip's phone at October 12, 2022 02:03 PM (UcsuX)

429 "The next mayor of Los Angeles will be either an African-American woman or a white man.”
Caruso quickly corrected her saying, “I’m Italian”

This only works for Sicilians

Posted by: SMOD at October 12, 2022 02:03 PM (RHGPo)

430

Soon they will be begging for untainted blood.

Posted by: artisanal ette at October 12, 2022 02:03 PM (9qHsE)

431 Friend of mine got in the time machine, went way back to 2004 and picked up SARS. He ignored it for a few days, then went to a ER substation. They transported him to the hospital and started 2 different IV's.

Doctor told him he had SARS, then told him he's going to feel like total shit for a couple weeks. After that time, however, he would have immunity to the base protein for Covid and all it's variants. He'd get a cold, then be better in a day or two.

Take this vax and shove it.
I don't need it here no more.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 12, 2022 02:03 PM (Zz0t1)

432 If the government had balls and wasn't intentionally complicit in this massive act of fraud, Pfizer and the rest would be permanently debarred from ever receiving another single cent of federal money.

Posted by: The guy who knows the government has no balls and is complicit at October 12, 2022 02:03 PM (cz/kh)

433 Trump will get the blame.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 12, 2022 02:02 PM (VaSD4)

Funding research is not the same thing as forgoing proper testing and forcing mandates.

Posted by: CN at October 12, 2022 02:04 PM (Zzbjj)

434 Someone also need to ask the question: Did you conduct any research that shows the vaccine diminishes COVID symptoms versus people who were not vaccinated?

Another lie the CDC and federal government made up out of whole cloth.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 12, 2022 02:04 PM (lf83v)

435 I should consider myself hugely blessed that my mostly jabbed family hasn't shunned me and my ilk.

Geez, some of these stories tho

Posted by: kallisto at October 12, 2022 02:04 PM (dCxaZ)

436 385 And I got a postcard from the state encouraging me to get boosted. They need to read the damn room.

round my neck of the lack-of-woods, there are radio commercials telling us the best way to get ready for the holiday season is to get boosted.

Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda at October 12, 2022 02:04 PM (oY6Yp)

437
Over 99% of the people in my county who contracted it recovered. 99.8% of the population "survived".

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 12, 2022 02:04 PM (1Nxff)

438 The grandparents have no right to demand that kids are put at risk by these shots, even if it protects the oldsters. My husband and I had that conversation, too. "Do you want to have the boys risk myocarditis for your peace of mind, asked I. He backed down.
Posted by: CN
___

My kids are grown women who want nothing to do with the clot shot.
And my parents are immune to such arguments. Their peace of mind takes precedence, as it always has, and always will.

Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 02:04 PM (mVFGK)

439 Rather than prosecuting car thieves, St. Louis wants to sue Kia and Hyundai for making their cars so easy to steal.

They are pretty easy to steal, and its bad design. But clearly the job of prosecutors is to prosecute criminals, and they are NOT. In 2 Weeks, St. Louis Saw 462 Auto Thefts but Just 1 person was charged. Since the Soros-backed DA took office, only 25% of crimes have been prosecuted.

Why? Well the majority of these criminals are black, and Social Justice theory demands people stop putting black people in jail until there's equity between black and white criminals -- or even more whites than blacks in prison.

And nobody ever made money prosecuting criminals but there's lots of money to be made in suing a big company.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 12, 2022 02:04 PM (Ivdso)

440 Fauci, Birx and all the rest can prove to me how safe the vaccines are by simply mainlining the vaccine. Inject it right into an artery.

let's see how they deal with it.
Posted by: rd at October 12, 2022 02:00 PM (Z32m1)
........

Oops. Air bubbles. Oh well.

Posted by: wth at October 12, 2022 02:04 PM (v0R5T)

441 It's that world governments then claimed it did stop transmission, based on... nothing, but claimed The Science (TM) said it stopped transmission, and therefore they were justified in suspending human rights and coercing their populations into being vaccinated.

This same thought process is/will be used for kLImAte CHanGE!!! Everything is Broken and everybody is lying.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 12, 2022 02:05 PM (sAmhv)

442 I have read good arguments that if we did nothing except isolate the elderly and vulnerable we would have been better off. No way to prove it now, but I suspect they are correct.
__________

My brother is a professor at Stanford Medical School and he and I agree, rather to my surprise, that those arguments are correct.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 12, 2022 02:00 PM (1Nxff)

This was my position and proposal early on, when the age discrepancy became apparent. It seemed like common sense. So, of course, that we did not is compelling evidence that destruction (and looting) and election theft was the plan.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 12, 2022 02:05 PM (yHsuS)

443 413 Any science that claims to be settled is by definition a hoax.

Posted by: ... at October 12, 2022 01:59 PM (PNAh6)

There it is.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 12, 2022 02:01 PM (yHsuS)

Absolutely this. Science is the study of how we think, maybe, the world works. Possibly. Unless we're wrong.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 12, 2022 02:05 PM (CwQXo)

444
Target had racks and racks of masks WITH mirrors so you could try them on.

I saw a woman the other day with all kinds of fake jewels on her mask. Reminded me of chain mail ninja wear.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 12, 2022 02:05 PM (63Dwl)

445 Ambulance chasers everywhere:

Were you forced by the government to take the covid vaccination and did it kill yer stoopid ass? If so, you may be entitled to a substantial sum of money.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 12, 2022 02:05 PM (QSjkU)

446 Geez, some of these stories tho
Posted by: kallisto at October 12, 2022 02:04 PM (dCxaZ)

It's a fucking cult. A COVID cargo cult.

Posted by: The guy who knows the government has no balls and is complicit at October 12, 2022 02:05 PM (cz/kh)

447 I suggest we start with Fauci, then the entire NIH and CDC. Somebody somewhere, in these agencies, knew these vaccines were not effective and they kept their mouths shut.

Here's a fun thing to research. What percentage of employees at Pfizer, NIH, and CDC did NOT get the shot?

I've seen reports that in all cases it's over 50%. I don't know if they're accurate though, sadly.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 02:05 PM (zhLdt)

448 Nobody caught the pun…

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 12, 2022 02:05 PM (dxllA)

449 I do not think I've had the COVID disease. Have I inhaled the virus that causes COVID? I have no way of knowing. I never got tested. I was not required to for work - I'm retired. I wore a mask only when I had to go to stores for essentials or for visits to my dentist and allergy doc. Since COVID hit the US in late Feb 2000, I've not had a cold or flu or any respiratory illness. I expect many tens of millions in the US alone are the same as me.
Posted by: Gref at October 12, 2022 02:00 PM (AMIL/)

Exactly the same with my husband and myself. We were so relieved to be newly retired and had no forcing to jab or work.
No vacs no tests no sickness. Don't know why.

Posted by: Pony Tail at October 12, 2022 02:05 PM (tzZq2)

450 >>>Not to mention young men and women who will never have chilcren.

Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 02:03 PM (mVFGK)

But David French totes says Francis Collins is a really good guy!

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at October 12, 2022 02:05 PM (QYPq3)

451 436 385 And I got a postcard from the state encouraging me to get boosted. They need to read the damn room.

round my neck of the lack-of-woods, there are radio commercials telling us the best way to get ready for the holiday season is to get boosted.
Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda at October 12, 2022 02:04 PM (oY6Yp)

I agree.

*Looks online for turbos

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 12, 2022 02:05 PM (6VKyY)

452 18 Warnock did not try to goad Walker into a debate with partisan moderators, though. Nope.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 12, 2022 01:17 PM (9BfnT)

Walker seems to know more about how the partisan debate moderator game is played than any GOP candidate before him - even Trump.

It only took the GOP 50 years to get hip to what the Commission on Presidential Debates was doing.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 12, 2022 02:05 PM (9miN6)

453 How does one even test for efficacy against transmission? With humans, not mice?
Posted by: rhomboid

I assume they don't "test" but study the stats.

Posted by: DaveA at October 12, 2022 02:05 PM (FhXTo)

454 You're not going to admit to putting carrots in your chili, are you?

Science does not prove that Maryanne is hotter than Ginger

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 12, 2022 02:06 PM (Ivdso)

455 Walgreens is still pushing the vax as required so you can be near family, including young children so they can be around their infant siblings.

It's disgusting.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 12, 2022 02:06 PM (Zz0t1)

456 This same thought process is/will be used for kLImAte CHanGE!!! Everything is Broken and everybody is lying.
Posted by: Puddleglum at October 12, 2022 02:05 PM (sAmhv)

One big fake gay op.

Posted by: The guy who knows the government has no balls and is complicit at October 12, 2022 02:06 PM (cz/kh)

457 And I got a postcard from the state encouraging me to get boosted. They need to read the damn room.

State of Maryland was texting people who were vaxxed but not boosted that you'd be entered to win $5000 if you got the booster. I think that program's over now, but they're still trying.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 12, 2022 02:06 PM (ZGrMX)

458 Trump won't get the blame because they would have to admit the vaccines were worthless. They will never do that. Too many in their base feel the vaccines saved their life

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at October 12, 2022 02:06 PM (5HBd1)

459 >>> 420 Speed of Science = Operation Warp Speed.

Trump will get the blame.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at October 12, 2022 02:02 PM (VaSD4)

Oh, they will try, absolutely.

I think people will remember the cop who arrested their neighbor for taking her kids to an empty park, or the Meal Team that rode a fcking tank to shut down a bar, or the hospital that demanded vaccination for treatment, or the nursing home that wouldn't let *any* visitors in.... and none of those asshoes were Trump.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 12, 2022 02:06 PM (llON8)

460
Science does not prove that Maryanne is hotter than Ginger
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 12, 2022 02:06 PM (Ivdso)

It's my dancing pants that does that.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 12, 2022 02:06 PM (Zz0t1)

461 Soon they will be begging for untainted blood.

Or will they just eminent domain it and appropriate it by force?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at October 12, 2022 02:06 PM (FOGs2)

462 Over 99% of the people in my county who contracted it recovered. 99.8% of the population "survived".

I take dark humor in the families of clot shotted people that died from COVID saying, "It would have been so much worse without the clot shot!"

Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 02:06 PM (ESjRY)

463 430
Soon they will be begging for untainted blood.
Posted by: artisanal ette at October 12, 2022 02:03 PM (9qHsE)

Tainted blood. Whoa a oh. Tainted blood.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 12, 2022 02:07 PM (6VKyY)

464 I look forward to Sen. Paul going full flame thrower on Dr. Faustis about this. The gnome retires in December, so Sen. Paul has time.

Posted by: fly gal at October 12, 2022 02:01 PM

Nope, not gonna happen. paul does not control hearing scheduling and schumer is not going to let anyone get fauci on TV in any committee to get grilled over any of this.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 12, 2022 02:07 PM (bVYXr)

465 388 We could have stopped the spread by having folks use nasal sprays that kill the virus.

///

The anomaly with Covid was the suppression of ANY discussion of therapeutic measures. Fauci did that and Robert Kennedy makes a case for it being all about the money for pharma. And others???

Posted by: JM in Florida at October 12, 2022 02:07 PM (MJEbM)

466 email from Schumer:

Team, it's Senator Schumer.

I urgently need you to sign our petition to protect voting rights.

Republicans are trying to stop millions of Americans' votes from being counted, and we can't let them get away with it. Please add your name now to defend the sacred right to vote

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 12, 2022 02:07 PM (kFrCu)

467 You don't get vaccinated just for yourself, but also for others--you do it for all of society.
---------

Note: This is what they say about masks.

Posted by: ... at October 12, 2022 02:07 PM (+38ij)

468 Soon they will be begging for untainted blood.

Posted by: artisanal ette at October 12, 2022 02:03 PM (9qHsE)

Sorry. All we can offer is vaxxed, commie groomer blood.

Posted by: Stochastic Pawn Stars at October 12, 2022 02:08 PM (yHsuS)

469 How many people died because blood donations cratered during all this?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 12, 2022 02:08 PM (6VKyY)

470 125 Those of us who refused the clot shot were heroes.

Those who took it out of conviction, believing the lies, well, I hope nothing bad comes of it for you. Those who were forced to take it, I'm sorry. But if you refused and stood up and did what you had to do (even if that was via religious exemption like yours truly), you're a hero.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere
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Wolf, not that I'd consider myself a hero or not but I am one of two in a dept within the VHA (one of the three under the VA umbrella; the other two being NCA and VBA) who said absolutely not and filed religious exceptions thinking there'd be pushback but we've heard nothing since. Except that there were 30000 more within big VA who said now thanks as well.. all the sudden, the lightbulb went on why the lack of pushback...

ThTs my take but WTF do I know right?

Posted by: NALNAMSAM- not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at October 12, 2022 02:08 PM (R5563)

471 I’m seeing TV ads for the vaxx too.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 12, 2022 02:08 PM (dxllA)

472
I've had one cold and one bout of the COOF since March 2020.

Treated 'em both the same way: withdraw from Krebspouse to one part of the house, get plenty of bed rest, drink plenty of fluids, and eat sparingly as dictated by my appetite. Symptoms presented, maxed out and relieved in 36 hours; another 36 hours to drain sinuses of effluvia generated by the infection.

It's the fooking flu!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 12, 2022 02:08 PM (pNxlR)

473 My kids are grown women who want nothing to do with the clot shot.

My niece was in nursing school, she was adamant against getting the jab. They said "no jab, no school 4 U!" So she submitted to the first shot, immediately experienced cardio issues.

Her doctor wrote her a medical waiver and she got jabbed no more. I told her mom it is a legit miracla that a doctor had the courage to actually write a waiver for the kid.

Posted by: kallisto at October 12, 2022 02:08 PM (dCxaZ)

474 >>> 467 You don't get vaccinated just for yourself, but also for others--you do it for all of society.
---------

Note: This is what they say about masks.
Posted by: ... at October 12, 2022 02:07 PM (+38ij)

But not about condoms during a minkeypoxfest!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 12, 2022 02:08 PM (llON8)

475 Trump won't get the blame because they would have to admit the vaccines were worthless. They will never do that. Too many in their base feel the vaccines saved their life

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at October 12, 2022 02:06 PM (5HBd1)

never underestimate the shifting goal posts and hypocrisy of the left.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 12, 2022 02:08 PM (VwHCD)

476 Republicans are trying to stop millions of Americans' votes from being counted, and we can't let them get away with it. Please add your name now to defend the sacred right to vote
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 12, 2022 02:07 PM (kFrCu)

(Latin) Americans.

Posted by: CN at October 12, 2022 02:08 PM (Zzbjj)

477 Here's a fun thing to research. What percentage of employees at Pfizer, NIH, and CDC did NOT get the shot?

It came out accidentally in OZ that Pfizer had a separate "vaccine" production line for employees/VIPs.

The documentation didn't say what was different just that the systems were completely separate.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 02:09 PM (ESjRY)

478 >>Nope, not gonna happen. paul does not control hearing scheduling and schumer is not going to let anyone get fauci on TV in any committee to get grilled over any of this.

Schumer might not be in a position to stop anything pretty soon.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 12, 2022 02:09 PM (ZLI7S)

479 Soon they will be begging for untainted blood.

Or will they just eminent domain it and appropriate it by force?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at October 12, 2022 02:06 PM (FOGs2)

The Red Cross didn't separate vaxed v unvaxed blood. They don't care.

You'll get this non-vaccine whether you want it or not. Gates is generating mutated mosquitoes to make SURE you have no choice.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 12, 2022 02:09 PM (Zz0t1)

480 Speed of Science = Operation Warp Speed.

Trump will get the blame.
==
Welcome to the party pal.

Posted by: simplemind at October 12, 2022 02:09 PM (75i03)

481 I look forward to Sen. Paul going full flame thrower on Dr. Faustis about this.

Shrug. Lets say he does, and he utterly proves that the evil gnome lied about it all, on purpose for control, money, and to cover up evil and illegal lab work done.

Then what? The DOJ snickers and ignores any criminal reference, even assuming congress bothers to send them one. Fauchi ignores any contempt charges, even assuming congress applies any. He's 5 million dollars richer and getting richer as we speak, retires in the Bahamas and laughs his head off at us all.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 12, 2022 02:09 PM (Ivdso)

482 In India, some of its provinces offered up a covid mitigation strategy of Ivermectin, Vitamin D, zinc, and a couple of other things. Utter Peadesh, the largest province, saw its hospitalization rate drop from 30000 cases a day to under five cases per day.

Yes, five cases per day.

The clot shots weren't needed. India showed that a dollar per day per person would work even better, far, far better. In fact.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at October 12, 2022 02:09 PM (TnqVo)

483 Soon they will be begging for untainted blood.
Posted by: artisanal ette
___

Saw a meme of a huge pickup truck with a sticker advertising to prospective moms that for $3500, he'll provide jab-free sperm.

Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 02:09 PM (mVFGK)

484 Warp Speed was his. It was delayed after the election to get him. Kamala and others vowed to never ever take his shot. Then they changed to demanding it.

One thing that Trump didn't do at all was try to mandate the vaccinations.

So I think it's a bit unfair to blame him for fast tracking the vaccine and a bit unfair to blame him for what mostly-Democrats did with it afterward.
Posted by: Synova at October 12, 2022 01:59 PM (BD/yx)

In my opinion, Trump's not to blame at all. He's a politician, and Warp Speed solved a political and economic problem - how to open a world economy that was hysterically shut because of a 99% nonlethal virus. The scientists, however, are completely to blame on the medical consequences of their 'science'.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 12, 2022 02:09 PM (9miN6)

485 My daughter's BFF got the clot shot when she was pregnant. She miscarried and has been unable to get pregnant again. She is distraught. Again these people are evil.

Posted by: jmel at October 12, 2022 02:10 PM (bVhJi)

486 >>> 477 Here's a fun thing to research. What percentage of employees at Pfizer, NIH, and CDC did NOT get the shot?

It came out accidentally in OZ that Pfizer had a separate "vaccine" production line for employees/VIPs.

The documentation didn't say what was different just that the systems were completely separate.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 02:09 PM (ESjRY)

Do all these employees have the means to get out of the country and set up in a place that doesn't extradite to the US?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 12, 2022 02:10 PM (llON8)

487
Team, it's Senator Schumer.

I urgently need you to sign our petition to protect voting rights.

Republicans are trying to stop millions of Americans' votes from being counted, and we can't let them get away with it. Please add your name now to defend the sacred right to vote
Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 12, 2022 02:07 PM (kFrCu)

Exactly HOW are they doing that, there Chuck?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 12, 2022 02:10 PM (Zz0t1)

488 Republicans are trying to stop millions of Americans' votes from being counted, and we can't let them get away with it.

Millions of illegal and fraudulent votes? yes.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 12, 2022 02:10 PM (Ivdso)

489 Trump won't get the blame because they would have to admit the vaccines were worthless. They will never do that. Too many in their base feel the vaccines saved their life

You underestimate the degree to which the Democrat Party runs purely on will to power and Trump hatred. If he runs, they'll throw *everything* at him.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 12, 2022 02:10 PM (ZGrMX)

490 448 Nobody caught the pun…

i deeply apologize for disappointing you

Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda at October 12, 2022 02:10 PM (oY6Yp)

491 >>>I don’t understand why some folks who get Covid are asymptotic

Corona isn't the popular cold in the US. The vast majority are Rhinovirus. But still a few major outbreaks have occurred in the past like the Hong Kong coronavirus, HCoV-HKU1 which can cause severe symptoms including pneumonia.

If you've caught a bunch of different Coronas in the past. Likely you had some memory T cell action to help the situation.

Also. Something that never got reported. Smokers had much lower incidents of serious symptoms. The opposite effect expect for a respiratory infection.

Posted by: mikethemoose at October 12, 2022 02:11 PM (T/vhV)

492 "Someone also need to ask the question: Did you conduct any research that shows the vaccine diminishes COVID symptoms versus people who were not vaccinated?

Another lie the CDC and federal government made up out of whole cloth."

Exactly. Leave aside the circumstantial evidence that raises suspicions about this claim (basically, when a suspect changes their story .... ummm). Reduced severity of cases was not part of the initial claim, nor was it studied during the hurried up trials (AFAIK).

Could well be my fault, I gave up on all this way back in fall '20, after following it closely (the actual science, that is). But I haven't seen anything substantiating this only remaining claim for the "vaccines".

Posted by: rhomboid at October 12, 2022 02:11 PM (OTzUX)

493 It was the pandemic of the unvaccinated damnit.

Posted by: Kay Ivey at October 12, 2022 02:11 PM (VaSD4)

494 Walgreens is still pushing the vax as required so you can be near family, including young children so they can be around their infant siblings.

It's disgusting.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 12, 2022 02:06 PM

You can't find the vaccine here, all anyone has is the boosters. The VA is finally starting back up their volunteer services office and you have to have been vaccinated to be able to volunteer. Problem is no one can get a vaccine because none is available anywhere around here. There are signs up everywhere that claim they have the vaccine but when you ask all they have is the booster. The VA is requesting a one time authorization form the VA HQ for volunteers to be given the vaccine by the VA so they can volunteer.

It's madness.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 12, 2022 02:11 PM (bVYXr)

495
But not about condoms during a minkeypoxfest!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 12, 2022 02:08 PM (llON8

Only band aids over the lesions will save you from Monkeypox. Condoms not required.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 12, 2022 02:11 PM (Zz0t1)

496 The Red Cross didn't separate vaxed v unvaxed blood. They don't care.
___

This^

If you're need an emergency transfusion, it's pretty much Russian roulette.

If you have surgery planned, and are able to, you can put aside your own blood.

Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 02:11 PM (mVFGK)

497 I haven't been sick in any way shape or form since the covid shit started. Its that alien immune system of mine. I never had the flu, don't know what it's like. I don't get colds. I just don't get sick. No way was I getting that shot and fuck up a good thing.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 12, 2022 02:11 PM (VwHCD)

498 Everything is Broken and everybody is lying.

Pretty much.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 12, 2022 02:12 PM (Xrfse)

499
Saw a meme of a huge pickup truck with a sticker advertising to prospective moms that for $3500, he'll provide jab-free sperm.
Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 02:09 PM (mVFGK)

If he's not jabbing, how's he impregnating?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 12, 2022 02:12 PM (Zz0t1)

500
Oh, re OAS. There is also ADE, antibody dependent enhancement. The antibodies elicited by one strain, the neutralizing antibodies, become *enhancing* of infection and disease against another strain.

ADE is a very specific mechanism, I forget the details. Far better to use VEI, vaccine enhanced infection, to describe the more general ways that bad vaccines can make infection worse.

There is much evidence of VEI with these mRNA poison products.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Mr. Miley (Mzdiz) at October 12, 2022 02:12 PM (Mzdiz)

501 I haven't been sick in any way shape or form since the covid shit started. Its that alien immune system of mine. I never had the flu, don't know what it's like. I don't get colds. I just don't get sick. No way was I getting that shot and fuck up a good thing.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 12, 2022 02:11 PM (VwHCD)

Hello friend. Are you not of the body?

Posted by: Pfizer Fuck Ups at October 12, 2022 02:12 PM (gmo/4)

502 never underestimate the shifting goal posts and hypocrisy of the left.

"I was for the war before I was against it"

Democrats are completely willing to about face and pretend the previous crazy never happened. They're doing it RIGHT NOW with claims that only Republicans wanted to defund cops, not them! They're doing it RIGHT NOW with claims that they never once said the shot prevents transmission or prevents getting the Wuhan Flu.

They do it because people have short memories, generally are ill-informed, and the entire establishment is on their side and willing to participate in the lie. That's why having Twitter fall out of their hands causes such wailing and screaming on the leflt, its a chink in the armor.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 12, 2022 02:12 PM (Ivdso)

503 They may throw it at him, but it's not going to stick. Do you think someone like Howard Stern will be able to suddenly believe that the vaccine was useless?

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at October 12, 2022 02:12 PM (5HBd1)

504 Nope, not gonna happen. paul does not control hearing scheduling and schumer is not going to let anyone get fauci on TV in any committee to get grilled over any of this.

Schumer might not be in a position to stop anything pretty soon.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 12, 2022 02:09 PM

And fauci will be retired, can't be compelled to appear and won't show up for a hearing even if he is subpoenaed. I mean it's not like the doj is going to go out and arrest him for being in contempt of congress.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 12, 2022 02:12 PM (bVYXr)

505 458 Trump won't get the blame because they would have to admit the vaccines were worthless. They will never do that. Too many in their base feel the vaccines saved their life

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at October 12, 2022 02:06 PM (5HBd1)

The Dems desperately want to nail Trump to the wall for the crappy vaccines. To do it, Crazy Joe and every Dem will have to say they fell for lies by Trump, Fauci, Pfizer execs, and many others in and out of FedGov. Ain't gonna happen.

Posted by: Gref at October 12, 2022 02:12 PM (AMIL/)

506 490 448 Nobody caught the pun…

i deeply apologize for disappointing you
Posted by: stochastic kulak anachronda at October 12, 2022 02:10 PM (oY6Yp)

I apologize for the lac

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 12, 2022 02:13 PM (9miN6)

507 467

Note: This is what they say about masks.
Posted by: ... at October 12, 2022 02:07 PM (+38ij)
------------------------------

Said, past tense.

If you, unmasked, go up to some masked goofball now and say - Thanks for protecting me! They will scowl at you. Ask me how I know. No one masked up today is wearing it to protect anyone but their own irrationally frightened sweet patootie. I believe that was the case all along in order to ally their own fear about getting it and taking the burden off them and placing it on you.

Human beings - idiots!

Posted by: Colonel Travis at October 12, 2022 02:13 PM (RG7Wy)

508 OT-I thought this was great. Hershel Walker talks a little about his faith and says to "choose faith over fear"
Scroll at little less than half way down where there's a video of Walker talking:

https://twitter.com/HerschelWalker

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 12, 2022 02:13 PM (pejrF)

509 >>If you have surgery planned, and are able to, you can put aside your own blood.

The hell with that. I'm putting Keith Richard's blood aside.

I will be immortal.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 12, 2022 02:13 PM (ZLI7S)

510 Untainted blood? If you served in the military and got deployed at some point, you were jabbed with all kinds of crap. Guess I'm screwed. Also, I was stationed in the UK during the whole Mad Cow thing. My blood is tainted Moooooo.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 12, 2022 02:13 PM (sAmhv)

511 Also. Something that never got reported. Smokers had much lower incidents of serious symptoms. The opposite effect expect for a respiratory infection.
Posted by: mikethemoose at October 12, 2022 02:11 PM (T/vhV)

Efficacy of Nicotine in Preventing COVID-19 Infection (NICOVID-PREV)

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04583410

I joked the nicotine was the cure when it all started, but who knows.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 12, 2022 02:13 PM (Y5qcH)

512 Trump won't get the blame because they would have to admit the vaccines were worthless. They will never do that. Too many in their base feel the vaccines saved their life

In 2006-2008 the left ran completely on an anti-war platform.

As of right now they want to start a nuclear war with Russia.

I think you underestimate how easily they are willing to go back on things they claimed to believe before

Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 02:13 PM (ESjRY)

513 458 Trump won't get the blame because they would have to admit the vaccines were worthless. They will never do that. Too many in their base feel the vaccines saved their life

.. besides, Kamala will have to admit that she was right before she got the jab.

Posted by: SMOD at October 12, 2022 02:13 PM (RHGPo)

514 A commie virus doesn't target smokers. Only the old and infirm.

To each, from each, etc etc

Posted by: ... at October 12, 2022 02:13 PM (+38ij)

515 I don’t understand why some folks who get Covid are asymptotic.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 12, 2022 01:44 PM (dxllA)
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The asymptomatics are testing false positive... they don't have covid.

Posted by: Haywood at October 12, 2022 02:13 PM (XiR6c)

516 The VA is requesting a one time authorization form the VA HQ for volunteers to be given the vaccine by the VA so they can volunteer.

It's madness.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 12, 2022 02:11 PM (bVYXr)

Guess I won't be volunteering for the VA anytime soon, then.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 12, 2022 02:13 PM (Zz0t1)

517 Nood. Democrats are racists... but you knew that.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 12, 2022 02:14 PM (zhLdt)

518 Bow down before the one you serve . . .

Posted by: NiN at October 12, 2022 02:14 PM (HXl0f)

519 My daughter's BFF got the clot shot when she was pregnant. She miscarried and has been unable to get pregnant again. She is distraught. Again these people are evil.
Posted by: jmel
___

Condolences.

Supposedly, this thing they created can pass the placenta barrier.

Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2022 02:14 PM (mVFGK)

520 458 Trump won't get the blame because they would have to admit the vaccines were worthless. They will never do that. Too many in their base feel the vaccines saved their life
Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at October 12, 2022 02:06 PM (5HBd1)

Just like Election denying, even when evidence is on video, they have enough idiots that will believe WHAT THEY SAY, that they think they will get away with it.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 12, 2022 02:14 PM (oHd/0)

521 Author of Social Media Threat Proclaiming White Power And Threatening Murder Spree Against Blacks at County Fair Identified As Black Teen

Posted by: SMOD at October 12, 2022 02:14 PM (RHGPo)

522 Next up:

Proof "it would have been worse if I wasn't vaccinated!!!"

Posted by: TakeFive at October 12, 2022 02:14 PM (5rCna)

523 Lots of pharmacy here in se Pa are still pushing the Fake Vax

Posted by: Skip's phone at October 12, 2022 02:14 PM (UcsuX)

524 Yes, five cases per day.

You know what the mask maniacs say about that? That India is lying and covering up.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 12, 2022 02:14 PM (Ivdso)

525 I can't wait for the broadcast networks, whose newscasts are paid for by pharmaceutical advertising, to report this honestly.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 12, 2022 02:14 PM (lf83v)

526 445 Ambulance chasers everywhere:

Were you forced by the government to take the covid vaccination and did it kill yer stoopid ass? If so, you may be entitled to a substantial sum of money.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 12, 2022 02:05 PM (QSjkU)

woof...

It will make the Camp Lejeune settlement shysters pale in comparison.

Posted by: Maximus Decimus Meridius at October 12, 2022 02:14 PM (BgMrQ)

527
The hell with that. I'm putting Keith Richard's blood aside.

I will be immortal.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 12, 2022 02:13 PM (ZLI7S)

You'll also get syphilis.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 12, 2022 02:15 PM (6VKyY)

528 In 2006-2008 the left ran completely on an anti-war platform.

As of right now they want to start a nuclear war with Russia.

I don't think they *really* want war with Russia

Posted by: JoeF. at October 12, 2022 02:15 PM (mR6Gs)

529 >>>How many people died because blood donations cratered during all this?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 12, 2022 02:08 PM (6VKyY)

Hmmm, I needed 10 units one afternoon in March 2021 and they didn't seem to have an issue. Then continued with RBC infusions for a bit, after that.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at October 12, 2022 02:15 PM (QYPq3)

530 I don't get it, the Pfizer broad is so scrambled she said "stopping immunization ..."
Stopping immunization?
Sure, we filled in the gaps and assumed she was trying to reply to the question. But what the heck was she actually saying?
Speed of $cience. My foot.
Stop calling it a vaccine.
It's not.

Posted by: Coki at October 12, 2022 02:15 PM (i3fPW)

531 >>>You underestimate the degree to which the Democrat Party runs purely on will to power and Trump hatred. If he runs, they'll throw *everything* at him.

You underestimate how deeply entrenched lefties are with their virtue identity. It's literally who they are. The absolute worst risk for the left is to have a large number of lefties question a single fragment of the leftist virtue identity as a *mistake*. It's like the Bible either it's all infallible or none of it is. The last thing they want is pawns questioning their virtues wondering if there were other mistakes.

Posted by: mikethemoose at October 12, 2022 02:15 PM (T/vhV)

532 The Dems desperately want to nail Trump to the wall for the crappy vaccines. To do it, Crazy Joe and every Dem will have to say they fell for lies by Trump, Fauci, Pfizer execs, and many others in and out of FedGov. Ain't gonna happen.

Posted by: Gref at October 12, 2022 02:12 PM

Hey it worked for all of the democrats who voted to go to war in Iraq over the WMD's that they claimed bush lied to them about.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 12, 2022 02:15 PM (bVYXr)

533 And still they are promoting jabs in young children.

This at CVS: covid shot appointments recommended since demand is HIGH.

Who are the morons getting in line for this?

Posted by: Ziba at October 12, 2022 02:15 PM (4h9M3)

534 Not sure if this works, but a screenshot of an old PFizer tweet lying about this:

tinyurl.com/mrxs3hxm

Posted by: McLurkerson at October 12, 2022 02:15 PM (wNDOJ)

535
NOOD -- LA City Council Hispanic Bigots

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 12, 2022 02:16 PM (pNxlR)

536 The hell with that. I'm putting Keith Richard's blood aside.

I will be immortal.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 12, 2022 02:13 PM (ZLI7S)

You'll also get syphilis.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 12, 2022 02:15 PM (6VKyY)

And become a pretty decent guitarist

Posted by: JoeF. at October 12, 2022 02:16 PM (mR6Gs)

537 I don't think they *really* want war with Russia

The ones on twitter do. Nuke Vlad and show him who is boss Dark Brandon. He'll back down!

Posted by: 18-1 at October 12, 2022 02:16 PM (ESjRY)

538 Lots of pharmacy here in se Pa are still pushing the Fake Vax
___________

From NY Governor Hochul's website today:

Governor Hochul continues to urge New Yorkers to get their bivalent COVID-19 vaccine boosters from Pfizer-BioNTech for anyone age 12 or older and from Moderna for those 18 or older.

"I urge New Yorkers to remain vigilant and be sure to use the tools that are available to keep themselves, their loved ones, and their communities safe and healthy," Governor Hochul said. "Take advantage of the vaccine by staying up to date on doses."

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 12, 2022 02:17 PM (lf83v)

539 Still not vaccinated. Never got covid.

Did Fauci remind anyone of the Heaven's Gate guy?

Posted by: MJ at October 12, 2022 02:17 PM (zwDuR)

540 Untainted blood? If you served in the military and got deployed at some point, you were jabbed with all kinds of crap. Guess I'm screwed. Also, I was stationed in the UK during the whole Mad Cow thing. My blood is tainted Moooooo.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 12, 2022 02:13 PM (sAmhv)

Not us old cold warriors, pal. Now get of my lawn.

Posted by: Archer at October 12, 2022 02:17 PM (gmo/4)

541 >>>I don't think they *really* want war with Russia

Small scale nuclear exchange means.

1. Martial Law in the US.
2. Military is still here to enforce it.
3. Population reduction.

Are you sure they don't want that?

Posted by: mikethemoose at October 12, 2022 02:18 PM (T/vhV)

542 Don't know what I was sick with this spring and don't care. I was more scared of having to deal with doctors than the disease. Took awhile to get my voice back.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at October 12, 2022 02:19 PM (5HBd1)

543 You underestimate how deeply entrenched lefties are with their virtue identity. It's literally who they are. The absolute worst risk for the left is to have a large number of lefties question a single fragment of the leftist virtue identity as a *mistake*. It's like the Bible either it's all infallible or none of it is. The last thing they want is pawns questioning their virtues wondering if there were other mistakes.
==
Love your work bro, but I totally disagree. the principle of non contradiction is not something they use. They rely on being able to maintain multiple contradictory ideas as true at the same time. This is just one more. It will be, in fact, easy. The vaccine WOULD have worked, but Trump spoiled it. See for example, REAL communism has never been tried.

Posted by: simplemind at October 12, 2022 02:19 PM (ufR/a)

544 I think people will remember the cop who arrested their neighbor for taking her kids to an empty park, or the Meal Team that rode a fcking tank to shut down a bar, or the hospital that demanded vaccination for treatment, or the nursing home that wouldn't let *any* visitors in.... and none of those asshoes were Trump.

If you're talking about the mom who took her kids to a park in Idaho, they're still prosecuting her.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at October 12, 2022 02:19 PM (Bd6X8)

545 The hell with that. I'm putting Keith Richard's blood aside.

I will be immortal.
Posted by: JackStraw

Better dilute it 3 to 1 with Donny Osmond's or you'll never come down.

Posted by: DaveA at October 12, 2022 02:19 PM (FhXTo)

546 I do not believe in the theory of a small scale Nuke exchange.

Every war game I participated in, ended up in full scale MAD.

Posted by: Archer at October 12, 2022 02:20 PM (gmo/4)

547
1. Martial Law in the US.
2. Military is still here to enforce it.
3. Population reduction.

Are you sure they don't want that?
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You are right on this tho. they want it . Also will cover up a lot of rising cancer rates in the next 10 years . . IYKWIMAITTYD.

Posted by: simplemind at October 12, 2022 02:20 PM (ufR/a)

548 Democraps accusing Dr. Oz of "puppy torture."

Posted by: Ziba at October 12, 2022 02:21 PM (4h9M3)

549 And fauci will be retired, can't be compelled to appear and won't show up for a hearing even if he is subpoenaed. I mean it's not like the doj is going to go out and arrest him for being in contempt of congress.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 12, 2022 02:12 PM (bVYXr)

Send a helicopter for him...

Posted by: zombie Augusto Pinochet at October 12, 2022 02:21 PM (BgMrQ)

550 Fauci is Italian for Jaws. He could have been a good mafiosi. Tony Jaws. he kills without conscience and lies with impunity.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at October 12, 2022 02:28 PM (vN+oL)

551 Fauci is Italian for Jaws. He could have been a good mafiosi. Tony Jaws. he kills without conscience and lies with impunity.
Posted by: Ted Torgerson at October 12, 2022 02:28 PM (vN+oL)

Well, he is always flapping his jaws

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 12, 2022 02:35 PM (M+Lyo)

552 >>>Every war game I participated in, ended up in full scale MAD.

You didn't have creative writers then. But I'll give you the game theory. If Putin can win Ukraine then he wants no exchange. If he can't a small scale exchange would give him an excuse to quit without losing face and stop the losses he is incurring in the conflict. So if he is in a can't win position, a few nukes lobbed at Russian military targets would make his life better not worse. However a large scale exchange would make his life worse.

I already outlined what the leftist tyrants stand to gain from a small scale exchange. They to would not want a large scale exchange. So you have a situation where the preferred outcome of both parties **may be** a small scale exchange. But in the event it is only one party's preferred outcome, small scale is still preferential to large scale for the other party so that would suffice to resolve the game equation. So yes we are in a game theory situation that could resolve to small scale exchange of nuclear weapons because that may be the preferred outcome of one party.

I was in nuclear weapons war games too.

Posted by: mikethemoose at October 12, 2022 02:37 PM (T/vhV)

553 I don't get it, the Pfizer broad is so scrambled she said "stopping immunization ..."
Stopping immunization?
Sure, we filled in the gaps and assumed she was trying to reply to the question. But what the heck was she actually saying?
Speed of $cience. My foot.
Stop calling it a vaccine.
It's not.
Posted by: Coki at October 12, 2022 02:15 PM (i3fPW)

See, I thought the same thing, the language she used does not make sense. Does not answer the question about transmission - *stopping immunization*? Weird choice of words.

Posted by: Pony Tail at October 12, 2022 02:38 PM (tzZq2)

554 The speed of science=how quickly Fauxi cashes his royalty checks.

Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at October 12, 2022 02:40 PM (Mzdiz)

555 I wonder what the Asian version of Fawlty Towers is?

"Don't bring up the war."

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 12, 2022 02:58 PM (p+8kL)

556 Ambulance chasers are preferable to medical tyranny.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 12, 2022 03:03 PM (p+8kL)

557 Everyone involved in the biggest lie ever shrouded across the planet should be imprisoned, everything they own, taken and their family never allowed to work in medical sciences EVER.

Posted by: Halfdan at October 12, 2022 03:06 PM (PY/t0)

558 ahhh ... its FASTER to test for reduction of transmission than it is to test for severity of disease ... by days if not weeks ... if speed was the issue then they skipped the fastest thing they could test for ... I think they skipped it on purpose since they knew it wouldn't stop transmission (i.e. viral load)

Posted by: The Dark Lord at October 12, 2022 03:15 PM (5cMUX)

559 Keep in mind the purpose of vaccines - to lessen the severity of an indicence of a disease.

Does vaccination also reduce the "likelihood" of getting a disease? Perhaps...

Does vaccination also reduce the "likelihood" of transmissability of a disease? Maybe...

Were we lied to? YES.

Posted by: Clouds at October 12, 2022 03:21 PM (BM7ob)

560 How ignorant must a populace be to accept 'leaders' that prattle on about "the speed of science." WTF does that even MEAN? The millennia to science-out that the earth revolves around the sun? The centuries to science one could power tools with a water wheel? The years to science various metallurgy? Create an incandescent bulb? Refine petroleum? Accepting idiotic language - communication of ideas - is absurd.

Posted by: Alexander Scipio at October 12, 2022 03:32 PM (NX5U7)

561 So first they told me the vaccine would prevent me from getting Covid. That turned out not to be true, they later admitted. Then they said it would keep me from spreading covid. That turned out not to be true, they later admitted.

So what exactly did I take?

Posted by: SMFH at October 12, 2022 03:35 PM (OkpI3)

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Posted by: www.Profit97.Com at October 12, 2022 03:35 PM (hlGk+)

563 I used to make the point that the EUA was not based on any testing or research related to transmission.

I'm still banned and will be banned forever from a main coronavirus subReddit for saying so, and pointing out early that it was still possible for the vacccnated to be vectors for spread.

No sir that wasn't a polite thing to notice out loud.

Posted by: Sarahw at October 12, 2022 04:19 PM (g1vnC)

564 Still about this? Pretty much every single person in an ICU for COVID right now (and there are lots of them) are unvaccinated idiots. I've been vaxxed five times now. I caught COVID in December when it morphed into Omicron like all of us did. My oldest plays HS basketball and the whole team got it.

Now the new booster takes Omicron into account. Hope it works. Every shot I had was no big deal. Actual COVID was like a shitty cold. Because my body was familiar from the (at that point) three shots I had taken.

Weird how you turned this into a political fight. You guys died. We didn't. I literally don't know a person who died from COVID. Not my 85 year mother. Nobody. I guarantee you that every single one of you does.

How are you all still on this? Look at the death rates from COVID between blue and red counties. Just fucking look at it. More of you morons died of COVID than we did. Prove me wrong.

Posted by: Seattle Slough at October 12, 2022 05:56 PM (KcqqB)

565 So when do we hang all who forced people to take the death jab; who destroyed families' their livihoods; their education?

Posted by: A. Landmesser at October 12, 2022 07:08 PM (EcD5Y)

566 I was fired from a $150k a year job for refusing the jab. There will never be enough dead Democrats to satiate my loathing.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at October 12, 2022 07:57 PM (P4qS4)

567 When people asked me why I wasn't getting vaccinated, I always said, "...because they clearly haven't had time to test it."

ANYONE was free to know it was bullshit.

Common sense.

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