You don't have to be in California government to create a disaster, but it helps

From March 11, 2017, Ace of Spades HQ, a ghost train:

High-speed train flies through downtown Fresno
Such a beautiful dream.

In 2017, the Powers that Were had built an amazing, glistening, grand new train/bus station in San Francisco for bullet trains that were years away from arriving. The grand opening was anticipated soon.

The 3 block long, 5 story station opened briefly for bus traffic a year late, when it cracked and they had to close and fortify it. More massive expenses and delays. And those bullet trains are never coming to the station. Unlike ballplayers to that famous ballfield who were attracted by its mere presence. Gavin Newsom had to destroy the planet, along with Jerry Brown's dream, on his way to Washington D.C.

Quoting myself back in 2017:

Wait - I thought the train was supposed to STOP in downtown Fresno. Well never mind. The California high-speed rail debacle just gets bigger and stupider over time. I have a hard time keeping track, even though I see some of the construction on the project from time to time. I have friends who have already had their lives changed by it.

Well, the project isn't currently getting much bigger, but it remains extraordinarily stupid. The trains are now planned to run from Bakersfield to Merced rather than from Los Angeles to San Francisco. In other words, they are just running it through the easy, flat farmland. But it costs more than the original train was supposed to cost. And it won't be a bullet train, really.

March, 2017:

In the middle of the day, I drove past the support towers under construction for the viaduct intended to carry high speed trains over Cedar Avenue and Highway 99 in the southern part of Fresno. There were some really, really tall cranes standing near the towers, but I saw no work underway.

Now, work had proceeded to the point where there is a structure over the highway, including some golden support arches that don't look really permanent. Don't know if they ARE permanent.

The New York Times has even noticed the project. It includes a report about the frustration of a French engineering firm. A French engineering firm. There used to be jokes about how the French couldn't do engineering because they still had to say quatre-vingt-dix instead of the old, logical word nonante (except among the uneducated) because the regimental numbers of the units that stayed loyal to the king during the revolution could not be mentioned.

But apparently, this train-building French outfit, SNCF, does some good work. Steven Hayward has picked out some "fun bits" from the long feature in the NYT. Here are a couple with some of his commentary:

Actually there really isn't much question: it isn't going to be finished. And in any case, since Californians will all be driving electric cars in little more than a decade (heh), why bother finishing it, since it will not do anything to save the climate.

The tortured effort to build the country's first high-speed rail system is a case study in how ambitious public works projects can become perilously encumbered by political compromise, unrealistic cost estimates, flawed engineering and a determination to persist on projects that have become, like the crippled financial institutions of 2008, too big to fail. . . [A]ccording to projections widely used by engineers and project managers, the train could not be completed in this century.

But this passage is the best part of the whole story:

The state was warned repeatedly that its plans were too complex. SNCF, the French national railroad, was among bullet train operators from Europe and Japan that came to California in the early 2000s with hopes of getting a contract to help develop the system.
The company's recommendations for a direct route out of Los Angeles and a focus on moving people between Los Angeles and San Francisco were cast aside, said Dan McNamara, a career project manager for SNCF.
The company pulled out in 2011. "There were so many things that went wrong," Mr. McNamara said. "SNCF was very angry. They told the state they were leaving for North Africa, which was less politically dysfunctional. They went to Morocco and helped them build a rail system."
Morocco's bullet train started service in 2018.

There you have it. As far as good governance is concerned, California now ranks below North Africa.

Ed Driscoll adds a bit of history from the NYT piece:

The modern concept of high speed rail began in 1964, when the Japanese National Railways launched its first Shinkansen train from Tokyo to Shin Osaka, operating at 130 mph. Following passage of the High Speed Ground Transportation Act of 1965 in the U.S., the Pennsylvania Railroad (and successor Penn Central), in partnership with the Federal Railroad Administration, upgraded its Washington-to-New York corridor for new 160-mph trains. Four- and six-car trainsets were comprised of electric multiple-unit cars built by Budd, named Metroliners.

So, that was in 1965. Why don't we have bullet trains crossing the country? Where is the train to Hawaii?

You couldn't get to this part of the California Central Coast on a train. Headlands Harmony.

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La estupidez continues in California government

Via J.J. Sefton's Morning Report yesterday:

California's Water Supply Falls Victim to CRT

California's agricultural production is as large as Texas and Iowa combined. The state's Mediterranean climate and fertile valleys help make it the fifth largest supplier of food and fiber in the world. It all depends on water.
Most of the state's crops rely on irrigation as opposed to rain. Irrigation is regulated by a system of water rights held by public and private parties. Notice these are "rights" and not "privileges." The exercise of these rights to bring about beneficial uses of water such as growing food is a complicated area of law and policy.

History proves that giving the government control over the food supply is usually a recipe for famine. Still, there are many environmental and so-called social justice organizations that would like to move all the privately held water rights to state control. One way to do so is by influencing state water rights agencies through Critical Race Theory.
California's State Water Resources Control Board, (AKA the State Board), has released a draft of its Racial Equity Action Plan and is soliciting public comments. The board is one of the more powerful of California's bureaucracies. Members are appointed by the governor and according to its website, "...the five-member State Water Board allocates water rights, adjudicates water right disputes, develops statewide water protection plans, establishes water quality standards, and guides the nine Regional Water Quality Control Boards."
According to Executive Director Eileen Sobeck, "There could not be a more critical challenge facing us at this time than the challenge of achieving racial equity," demonstrates the Board's priorities in this time of major drought.

This piece is quite detailed, so you may want to read the whole thing.

. . . . It gets serious when your family's food supply can be negatively impacted.
Remember freedom is worth fighting for and if you don't push back you're going to get what they give you and you won't like it. People and organizations are afraid to speak out against this obvious racist tactic of CRT for fear of being called "racist." So? Racists are calling you a racist. You don't have to be from California to speak up for food security and there are rumors someone from Sacramento wants to run for national office. Perhaps your voice can be an influence for sanity. Go to Racial Equity Action Plan and let them know your opinion.

Piedras Blancas Lighthouse. Needs water.

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Meanwhile, in Minnesota

University of Minnesota medical students swear an oath to "honor all Indigenous ways of healing that have been historically marginalized by Western medicine" and to fight "white supremacy, colonialism, [and] the gender binary."

They are being inducted in the cult of CRT. pic.twitter.com/v3YYKBq9OW
— Christopher F. Rufo ⚔️ (@realchrisrufo) October 11, 2022

Scott Johnson fills in some details on the oath above, first reported by Anthony Gockowski:

Anthony's story includes links to the underlying materials. Perhaps most notable are the mindlessness, falsity, and Maoist self-abasement of the oath, although I am undoubtedly missing a few other elements that should be mentioned. How serious people can recite the shibboleths with a straight face and without gagging is a phenomenon almost beyond belief.
We do wish them well in their mission to uproot "the structural violence deeply embedded in the healthcare system" and "the gender binary" in the course of their long careers in medicine. First, do no harm, baby!

Apparently, the students (read "student committee", I think) wrote the oath with "faculty advisors". Some advisors!

Now they are getting advice on how to fend off angry reactions. Heh.

Johnson again. Video at the link:

Over at the University of Minnesota Medical School, one probably shouldn't be seen with books such as Arthur Koestler's novel Darkness at Noon or Fan Shen's memoir Gang of One: Memoirs of a Red Guard. It might reflect an inclination to think for yourself and other such bourgeois indulgences.
I'm thinking that they missed a few strokes at this year's white-coat ceremony for new students. The video below is a little off on the party line, but it gives you the idea. The authorities at the medical school can look to flesh out the ceremony with a little help from the Maoist struggle sessions of old.

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Music and Dance

Stand by Me, 2003

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Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

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Last week's thread, October 8, Nobel Prize Season

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:05 AM

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1 Damn I don't want my Crenshaw pun to be willowed.

Crenshaw could never beat Cornea.

Posted by: polynikes at October 15, 2022 11:14 AM (nMc+e)

2 AOC still wants to know: Where are the trains?

Posted by: KT at October 15, 2022 11:14 AM (rrtZS)

3 Good morning, KT!

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 15, 2022 11:14 AM (a7EeY)

4 Just as with the Smollett hoax, every sane person knew on Day One that the California train project was a hoax. The people who promoted it anyway profited by it, and will be unscathed by its failure, suggesting that perhaps they are actually the sanest among us.

Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs, Guest-Hosted By Mr. Horse at October 15, 2022 11:15 AM (24fqN)

5 According to Executive Director Eileen Sobeck, "There could not be a more critical challenge facing us at this time than the challenge of achieving racial equity

Stoopid bint. Keep this bullshit up and your "critical challenge" will be staving off your own dehydration/starvation.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 15, 2022 11:16 AM (Xrfse)

6 As I've said in the past, CA has no water and no electricity, but, they're going to build a bullet train!

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 15, 2022 11:16 AM (a7EeY)

7 Okay, back to Cornyn.

How about A.G. Ken Paxton running against him?

Paxton has been great.

Posted by: CloseTheFed at October 15, 2022 11:16 AM (LeNk3)

8 I remember when doctors were highly respected members of the community.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 15, 2022 11:16 AM (eGTCV)

9 I feel sorry for CA's farmers, and when they finally cut the water off food will become expensive or scarce.

Other than that the west coast means nothing.

Posted by: Braenyard , _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 15, 2022 11:16 AM (lEfwZ)

10 Yeah, living the dream in Kali.
BTW, nightmares are dreams too...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:16 AM (ynpvh)

11 Off horsey sock.

Posted by: gp, All Wrapped Up In His Own Private Idaho at October 15, 2022 11:16 AM (24fqN)

12 I have chores, but will be checking. I just want to get the pulse on these thoughts.

Thanks to all that commented.

Posted by: CloseTheFed at October 15, 2022 11:17 AM (LeNk3)

13 I'm trying to keep myself from being completely cynical. This isn't helping.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 15, 2022 11:17 AM (i3yPZ)

14 Hi, Blake!

Posted by: KT at October 15, 2022 11:17 AM (rrtZS)

15 The third curse in the Chinese Trio:
"May all your dreams come true"...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:17 AM (ynpvh)

16 Will those doctors who pledge to honor independence methods of healing also pledge to honors JWs when they refuse blood transfusions?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 15, 2022 11:18 AM (eGTCV)

17 That's a wonderful dance video!

I think it will take a nasty crash to get rid of the bureaucracies that are making us poorer.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 15, 2022 11:19 AM (uz3Px)

18 All light rail projects exist for graft, period. It's an 1800's solution to a modern problem. You can't adjust for changes in occupancy and population. With buses, you can.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 15, 2022 11:20 AM (uz3Px)

19 6 As I've said in the past, CA has no water and no electricity, but, they're going to build a bullet train!

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 15, 2022 11:16 AM (a7EeY)

I think you mispelled bullshit.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:20 AM (ynpvh)

20 Sadly a bunch of left coasters moved to Colorado. The state is now a mini-me to Failifornia, minus the coastal scenery.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 15, 2022 11:20 AM (3cGpq)

21 Huh.

I though Shag dancing was something else entirely.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 15, 2022 11:21 AM (KLPy8)

22 17 That's a wonderful dance video!

I think it will take a nasty crash to get rid of the bureaucracies that are making us poorer.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 15, 2022 11:19 AM (uz3Px)

They want things to crash. That way they can remake it in their image.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:21 AM (ynpvh)

23 Just as with the Smollett hoax, every sane person knew on Day One that the California train project was a hoax. The people who promoted it anyway profited by it, and will be unscathed by its failure, suggesting that perhaps they are actually the sanest among us.
Posted by: gp's Movie Laffs, Guest-Hosted By Mr. Horse at October 15, 2022 11:15 AM (24fqN)

What Smoolio achieved was to expose the silliness of the media, for jumping on a hoax, and then watching that same media pretend like it never happened.

A lot of people who otherwise expected the media to be honest presenters of news, saw it for what it was.

The government lie is too big for people to actually see it. And so they never get held accountable.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 15, 2022 11:21 AM (i3yPZ)

24 And you can't go wrong with Randal O'Toole on the subject:

https://tinyurl.com/bdf9668h

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 15, 2022 11:21 AM (uz3Px)

25 Fast commuter trains, Another failure for Gaia Religion

Posted by: Skip's phone at October 15, 2022 11:22 AM (xhxe8)

26 21 Huh.

I though Shag dancing was something else entirely.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 15, 2022 11:21 AM (KLPy

Michael Jackson's moondancing has nothing on this.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:23 AM (ynpvh)

27 I saw Amtrak was going to start up the LA to Vegas run again, I doubt that will make any money though.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 15, 2022 11:23 AM (L08P2)

28 27 I saw Amtrak was going to start up the LA to Vegas run again, I doubt that will make any money though.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at October 15, 2022 11:23 AM (L08P2)

I prefer to call it the supercollider...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:24 AM (ynpvh)

29 Sadly a bunch of left coasters moved to Colorado. The state is now a mini-me to Failifornia, minus the coastal scenery.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 15, 2022 11:20 AM (3cGpq)

It's relatively sane in this part of Colorado. Fortunately or unfortunately though, I'm leaving soon.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 15, 2022 11:25 AM (i3yPZ)

30 If you ever see a University of Minnesota School of Medicine degree framed on a wall in your doctor's office, hightail it out of there as freakin' fast as you can.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 15, 2022 11:25 AM (Xrfse)

31 I'm currently in enemy territory because of mom. CA medical care is approaching third world status. Mom poor dementia/Alzheimers riddled mom sat in an emergency room, with me, for hours to achieve nothing. We were pretty much the only white people in the ER. I sat and watched as the place was filled up by people who really didn't need to be there, a good percentage of them of the English as a second language persuasion, and my mom and moved to the basically invisible line.

So, we try again today. I hate CA. And I was born here.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 15, 2022 11:25 AM (a7EeY)

32 When I think shag dancing, I think a 1972 swingers party.
Ick.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 15, 2022 11:25 AM (qH6FZ)

33 30 If you ever see a University of Minnesota School of Medicine degree framed on a wall in your doctor's office, hightail it out of there as freakin' fast as you can.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 15, 2022 11:25 AM (Xrfse)

But it's from the Dr. Jack Kevorkian Memorial wing...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:26 AM (ynpvh)

34 According to Executive Director Eileen Sobeck, "There could not be a more critical challenge facing us at this time than the challenge of achieving racial equity," demonstrates the Board's priorities in this time of major drought.

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Fuck these lunatics.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 15, 2022 11:26 AM (Qzn2/)

35 31 I'm currently in enemy territory because of mom. CA medical care is approaching third world status. Mom poor dementia/Alzheimers riddled mom sat in an emergency room, with me, for hours to achieve nothing. We were pretty much the only white people in the ER. I sat and watched as the place was filled up by people who really didn't need to be there, a good percentage of them of the English as a second language persuasion, and my mom and moved to the basically invisible line.

So, we try again today. I hate CA. And I was born here.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 15, 2022 11:25 AM (a7EeY)

I was in urgent care for...something or the other. There was someone in there who had stepped on a toothpick, and apparently hadn't tried removing it...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:27 AM (ynpvh)

36 They want things to crash. That way they can remake it in their image.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:21 AM (ynpvh)

The quiet part that doesn't often get said out loud, is that the "remake" part of their plan is to have the new world order include 75-90% fewer humans than there now are.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 15, 2022 11:27 AM (i3yPZ)

37 32 When I think shag dancing, I think a 1972 swingers party.
Ick.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 15, 2022 11:25 AM (qH6FZ)

"Yeah BABY!"--Austin Powers

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:27 AM (ynpvh)

38 It's looking like don't trust any doctor under 40. And even then......

These fucking people have lost their minds.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 15, 2022 11:28 AM (G/v5P)

39 Her sis the deal-e-o with high speed trains in Europe. All the ledtistbretards here think Europe has 1000 lines cross crossing the continent. Hop on a bullet train in Paris and 3 hours later you’re in Madrid.

Nah bruh. That’s not at all reality. Every country has 1 maybe 2 high speed lines between the capital and second biggest city. Paris to Lyon, Madrid to Barcelona, Rome to Milan and so on. And those are perfect distances for a high speed train. Faster than driving and a lot less hassle than flying for the same cost and time.

But if you’re going from Milan to Berlin there is no direct high speed line. It’s all old fashioned slow trains that take forever. So just like in America everyone flies between Milan and Berlin.

There are places in the US where high speed would do well. City pairs that are a 4-5 hour drive or 1 hr flight. Dallas-Houston is perfect for that. And it’s all flat so the speed could be maintained the entire distance. Florida coast works as well.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 15, 2022 11:28 AM (AZeyU)

40 light rail is lauded by progressives as being "efficient" but what they ignore is that it is never "convenient"

It is efficient to have one toilet for a family of 15. It certainly is not convenient for anyone to have to schedule a bowel movement or a bath.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 15, 2022 11:28 AM (xhaym)

41 36 They want things to crash. That way they can remake it in their image.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:21 AM (ynpvh)

The quiet part that doesn't often get said out loud, is that the "remake" part of their plan is to have the new world order include 75-90% fewer humans than there now are.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 15, 2022 11:27 AM (i3yPZ)

You gotta break some eggs if you're gonna make another failed souffle

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:28 AM (ynpvh)

42 Texas is going through another of its periodic flirtations with a high speed rail going in a triangle between Dallas, Houston, and Austin with a little tail going to San Antonio and Corpus Christi.

This has been a plan since at least 1972. And so far, nada.

Mostly because the farmers don't want to sell and even if they do, they aren't fat cats, who by right should get that money and not horrible, dirty, deplorable farmers.

They're pretty serious this time, so if they can get all of the graft straightened out, it may happen.

Or not. It made sense in '72 cause the cities weren't heavily surrounded by suburbs. Even using all the old railroad track areas, you'd have to demolish a lot of housing and buildings to get something close to the cities.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 15, 2022 11:29 AM (KLPy8)

43 KT, there's a great interview by the Epoch Times with a CA water resources board member. The water board guy states, categorically, CA gets enough storms to supply the water needed. However, lack of storage to capture runoff is the reason for CA's water shortages.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 15, 2022 11:30 AM (a7EeY)

44 I can't understand how an entire auditorium full of supposedly bright Minnesota medical school graduates could stand there and mouth that ridiculous Cultural Revolution struggle session swill without loudly stomping out if the room in protest.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 15, 2022 11:30 AM (Qzn2/)

45 [takes dollar, looks around furtively]
Word on the street is, not only was Islam right about women, it was right about the gays.

Posted by: Johnny The Shoeshine Guy at October 15, 2022 11:31 AM (/fCX6)

46 Damn! Just got Rick Rolled by a AAA commercial...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:31 AM (ynpvh)

47 Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 15, 2022 11:28 AM (AZeyU)

The high speed triangle ( Austin-Dallas-Houston) has been proposed for over a couple of decades now.

The Houston rail system is a joke and of course the Lefty politicians made a fortune.

Posted by: polynikes at October 15, 2022 11:31 AM (nMc+e)

48 40 light rail is lauded by progressives as being "efficient" but what they ignore is that it is never "convenient"

It is efficient to have one toilet for a family of 15. It certainly is not convenient for anyone to have to schedule a bowel movement or a bath.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 15, 2022 11:28 AM (xhaym)

I guess there's always Sheldon's bathroom schedule, ala "The Big Bang"?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:31 AM (ynpvh)

49 It's all broken All of it. And will get worse.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 15, 2022 11:32 AM (G/v5P)

50 43 KT, there's a great interview by the Epoch Times with a CA water resources board member. The water board guy states, categorically, CA gets enough storms to supply the water needed. However, lack of storage to capture runoff is the reason for CA's water shortages.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 15, 2022 11:30 AM (a7EeY)

Don't forget flushing a goodly amount for when the delta smelt.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:32 AM (ynpvh)

51 If the bathroom is occupied, just shit in the front yard or on the sidewalk.

Problem solved.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 15, 2022 11:33 AM (G/v5P)

52 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrDiLS7hdJI

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:34 AM (ynpvh)

53 To me every public fund project is at least 1/2 of the money goes into pockets

Posted by: Skip's phone at October 15, 2022 11:34 AM (xhxe8)

54 51 If the bathroom is occupied, just shit in the front yard or on the sidewalk.

Problem solved.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 15, 2022 11:33 AM (G/v5P)

Just don't get shivved by the homeless guy; you're in his territory.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:34 AM (ynpvh)

55 can't understand how an entire auditorium full of supposedly bright Minnesota medical school graduates could stand there and mouth that ridiculous Cultural Revolution struggle session swill without loudly stomping out if the room in protest.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 15, 2022 11:30 AM (Qzn2/)

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Remember, the medical establishment accepted the CDC guidelines for treating COVID, as a respiratory disease, when, in reality, COVID is an inflammatory disease.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 15, 2022 11:34 AM (a7EeY)

56 I can't understand how an entire auditorium full of supposedly bright Minnesota medical school graduates could stand there and mouth that ridiculous Cultural Revolution struggle session swill without loudly stomping out if the room in protest.

I think that the answer here is that they had been successfully indoctrinated long before they reached this juncture. I have no doubt that the vast majority of them mouthed that preposterous oath with all sincerity and conviction.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 15, 2022 11:35 AM (Xrfse)

57 I thought the TX train was actually being built. Is that not the case?

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 15, 2022 11:35 AM (AZeyU)

58 55 can't understand how an entire auditorium full of supposedly bright Minnesota medical school graduates could stand there and mouth that ridiculous Cultural Revolution struggle session swill without loudly stomping out if the room in protest.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 15, 2022 11:30 AM (Qzn2/)

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Remember, the medical establishment accepted the CDC guidelines for treating COVID, as a respiratory disease, when, in reality, COVID is an inflammatory disease.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 15, 2022 11:34 AM (a7EeY)

Cytokine storm.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:35 AM (ynpvh)

59 Another train to nowhere. LA to Vegas, but, but it doesn't start in LA. You have to drive to Apple Valley over the mountain from LA to catch a train, then you might as well drive on to Vegas anyway. Another company was suppose to do this also, but haven't heard much about it lately. The station in Vegas hasn't been mentioned lately either.......Anyone know what happened to that project?

Posted by: Colin at October 15, 2022 11:36 AM (WoKg1)

60 Iranian troops are secretly sent to Ukraine front line to help Putin's men operate kamikaze drones

Up to 50 Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) specialists have been sent to the southern and eastern front with hundreds of Shahed-136 drones._DM

Posted by: Braenyard , _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 15, 2022 11:37 AM (lEfwZ)

61 59 Another train to nowhere. LA to Vegas, but, but it doesn't start in LA. You have to drive to Apple Valley over the mountain from LA to catch a train, then you might as well drive on to Vegas anyway. Another company was suppose to do this also, but haven't heard much about it lately. The station in Vegas hasn't been mentioned lately either.......Anyone know what happened to that project?

Posted by: Colin at October 15, 2022 11:36 AM (WoKg1)

It's always graft. Friends of politicans always end up with the $$$

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:37 AM (ynpvh)

62 "The modern concept of high speed rail began in 1964, when the Japanese National Railways launched its first Shinkansen train from Tokyo to Shin Osaka, operating at 130 mph."

I'm pretty sure we had high speed service here in the 1930's. The Hiawatha lines had to average a 100 mph just to keep its schedule. That meant humping a 120 mph consistently.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 15, 2022 11:37 AM (qH6FZ)

63 However, lack of storage to capture runoff is the reason for CA's water shortages.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 15, 2022 11:30 AM (a7EeY)

No significant water storage has been built in at least 40 years, but the population has...what...doubled?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 15, 2022 11:37 AM (XIJ/X)

64 60 Iranian troops are secretly sent to Ukraine front line to help Putin's men operate kamikaze drones

Up to 50 Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) specialists have been sent to the southern and eastern front with hundreds of Shahed-136 drones._DM

Posted by: Braenyard , _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 15, 2022 11:37 AM (lEfwZ)

do they ride the drones? Not really kamikaze unless someone's on board, no?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:37 AM (ynpvh)

65 Yeah LA to LV is also a perfect distance. And given How crowded the highway can get between the two on weekends it would have a lot of appeal. But like the La to at version they took a simple concept and fucked it up while wasting billions of tax payer dollars.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 15, 2022 11:38 AM (AZeyU)

66 It's all broken All of it. And will get worse.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 15, 2022 11:32 AM (G/v5P)

Sure seems like it. I start to think, if God is going to push the reset button, He tends to do it all at once. This version, where the commie fascists do it, they drag it out over years and years.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 15, 2022 11:38 AM (i3yPZ)

67 The Manhattan Institute responded by pointing out that, even before the cost overruns, American transportation projects cost far more than projects in other countries.
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My bum brother in law's got to have a job. My sister and the children have to live within the lifestyle they are accustomed. etc

Posted by: Braenyard , _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 15, 2022 11:38 AM (lEfwZ)

68 63 However, lack of storage to capture runoff is the reason for CA's water shortages.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 15, 2022 11:30 AM (a7EeY)

No significant water storage has been built in at least 40 years, but the population has...what...doubled?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 15, 2022 11:37 AM (XIJ/X)

Worse than that. Kali has actually DECOMMISIONED dams. Damn those damned dirty politicians!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:38 AM (ynpvh)

69 I have no doubt that the vast majority of them mouthed that preposterous oath with all sincerity and conviction.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 15, 2022 11:35 AM (Xrfse)

Could be but I doubt it.

After all the work getting into med school and passing med school, am I gonna let some stupid duckweed's little power play derail me?

No, I am not.

I'll mouth their jibber-jabber then once established worked against it every chance I get.

One thing I'm not going to do is shake a dried lizard to chase out the ghosts from a woman dying of cancer. Fuck these idiots.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 15, 2022 11:39 AM (KLPy8)

70 However, lack of storage to capture runoff is the reason for CA's water shortages.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 15, 2022 11:30 AM (a7EeY)

No significant water storage has been built in at least 40 years, but the population has...what...doubled?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 15, 2022 11:37 AM (XIJ/X)

What about the empty concrete canals we see in all the movies that take place in LA. What were their purpose? To film movies like Terminator 2 and Grease?

Posted by: polynikes at October 15, 2022 11:39 AM (nMc+e)

71 This version, where the commie fascists do it, they drag it out over years and years.
Posted by: BurtTC
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Is that a version of being dragged off to Babylon?

Posted by: Braenyard , _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 15, 2022 11:40 AM (lEfwZ)

72 Don't forget flushing a goodly amount for when the delta smelt.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:32 AM (ynpvh)

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According to the CA water guy, the pumps used to pull water from the Sacramento near the delta are so powerful, they reverse the flow of the river. Evidently, plans have been on the books for decades to run tunnels under the Sacramento rather than use the river as a water transfer station. Guess who made sure that project is pretty much dead even though Gov Brown signed off on it?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 15, 2022 11:40 AM (a7EeY)

73 Post Floyd, medical schools across the country went all in on “no white men need apply”. For social justice and equity and shit.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 15, 2022 11:41 AM (AZeyU)

74 hi

Posted by: Ciampino - eFF The Feds at October 15, 2022 11:42 AM (qfLjt)

75 After all the work getting into med school and passing med school, am I gonna let some stupid duckweed's little power play derail me?

No, I am not.

I'll mouth their jibber-jabber then once established worked against it every chance I get.

One thing I'm not going to do is shake a dried lizard to chase out the ghosts from a woman dying of cancer. Fuck these idiots.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 15, 2022 11:39 AM (KLPy

People comply with tyranny, often not because they believe it, but because their personal gain is too strong a motivation not to. And when they mouth those words, or do those deeds, they transform their own minds into becoming believers.

Fewer and fewer of them become "silent saboteurs" on the inside.

Posted by: BurtTC at October 15, 2022 11:43 AM (i3yPZ)

76 Thing with trains is there is so much opportunity for graft. You have land acquisition, then building the lines then purchasing the trains then the maintenance contracts, catering contracts, it’s a never ending source of graft opportunities for politicians. A lot more lucrative than building a highway.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 15, 2022 11:44 AM (AZeyU)

77 What about the empty concrete canals we see in all the movies that take place in LA. What were their purpose? To film movies like Terminator 2 and Grease?
Posted by: polynikes at October 15, 2022 11:39 AM (nMc+e)

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Ah, the picturesque LA River, scene of the famous drag racing showdown in Grease.

It's a flood control channel only. It does nothing to store water; in fact it does just the opposite by sending rainwater runoff into the LA Harbor.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 15, 2022 11:44 AM (Qzn2/)

78 It certainly is not convenient for anyone to have to schedule a bowel movement...
Posted by: Kindltot
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Over 29, bowel movement schedules you.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 15, 2022 11:44 AM (ju2Fy)

79 I wish trains worked, I wish they were viable and money makers. I love trains. I enjoy riding in a train, its a far better way to travel than nearly anything else available to us. Its comfortable, you can eat sitting down, people are friendly and share a sense of adventure, the rails go through some of the most incredibly beautiful and unseen wilderness in the world, etc.

But they aren't, viable that is. They work great for freight, but passenger trains are a net loss. Everywhere. No matter what kind of train or where they are. Acela and the Coastal Starlighter rails for Amtrak lose the least money, but still lose money. All passenger trains worldwide except short run tourist rail are propped up by public funds.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2022 11:45 AM (Ivdso)

80 78 It certainly is not convenient for anyone to have to schedule a bowel movement...
Posted by: Kindltot
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Over 29, bowel movement schedules you.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 15, 2022 11:44 AM (ju2Fy)

Depends.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:45 AM (ynpvh)

81 79 But they aren't, viable that is. They work great for freight, but passenger trains are a net loss.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2022 11:45 AM (Ivdso)

Unless you treat passengers like freight?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:45 AM (ynpvh)

82 jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:32 AM

Thanks. VDH has written some good things along those line, too.

Posted by: KT at October 15, 2022 11:46 AM (rrtZS)

83 What about the empty concrete canals we see in all the movies that take place in LA. What were their purpose? To film movies like Terminator 2 and Grease?

Posted by: polynikes at October 15, 2022 11:39 AM (nMc+e)

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Not a canal. I believe those are shots of the LA river. It's pretty impressive, if I remember correctly, when they have to release water upstream.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 15, 2022 11:46 AM (a7EeY)

84 From Cision PR Newswire;

Vogtle Unit 3 starts nuclear fuel load

"Marks historic moment for modern U.S. nuclear industry. Milestone is pivotal prior to startup testing and commercial operation. The nuclear unit projected to enter service in the first quarter of 2023."

Well this'll be just in time for the Biden Administration to take credit for. I bet the lefts pivot on nuclear energy is going to come on the heels of that mongoloid looking child Greta Thunberg's mention of nukes in Europe/Germany.

Posted by: JROD at October 15, 2022 11:46 AM (0jZnq)

85 Depends.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)
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LOL

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 15, 2022 11:46 AM (ju2Fy)

86 In Europe there are some privately owned train lines that are profitable. There was an EU regulation change a few years ago that allowed private lines to compete with state owned lines. And it worked for many new entrants. Also forced state owned lines to become more efficient.

It can be done.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 15, 2022 11:47 AM (AZeyU)

87 It's a flood control channel only. It does nothing to store water; in fact it does just the opposite by sending rainwater runoff into the LA Harbor.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 15, 2022 11:44 AM (Qzn2/)
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They don't have enough water but they pour off rainwater into the bay. Real men of genius.

Posted by: Braenyard , _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 15, 2022 11:47 AM (lEfwZ)

88 I think some herbal remedies etc are valid and worth looking into, but they have to prove themselves and be tested scientifically, not just trusted. If you're using juju and grisgris, voodoo and trying to appease spirits, there's nothing in that but religion.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2022 11:48 AM (Ivdso)

89 I always wanted to ride the Orient Express from Paris to Istanbul. There have been several revivals of it but I'm not sure whether any are running now.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 15, 2022 11:49 AM (Qzn2/)

90 87 It's a flood control channel only. It does nothing to store water; in fact it does just the opposite by sending rainwater runoff into the LA Harbor.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 15, 2022 11:44 AM (Qzn2/)
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They don't have enough water but they pour off rainwater into the bay. Real men of genius.

Posted by: Braenyard , _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 15, 2022 11:47 AM (lEfwZ)

Rrain in the city doesn't do much good for storage as at that point you're pretty close to sea level. Rains often come in pretty heavy, so to prevent flooding, you need storm channels.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:49 AM (ynpvh)

91 Left: ancient Indian medicine brought on by spirits must be trusted and believed in

Also left:
Man look at these dumb Xtianists and their belief in sky gods

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 15, 2022 11:50 AM (AZeyU)

92 Freight has always been profitable. Passenger trains are not because they have the same costs, but you cannot stack passengers in like freight to take advantage of the power of a train to move things. Most of passenger cars are empty, not because there are no passengers, but because humans need space to live and breathe in, and to be comfortable.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2022 11:50 AM (Ivdso)

93 It can be done.
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They could hook passenger cars onto freight trains according to demand. - see where the market goes -
Except it would be unsafe, wouldn't it?
It would be unregulated, wouldn't it?

Posted by: Braenyard , _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 15, 2022 11:50 AM (lEfwZ)

94 ICYMI - A new category of Academy Awards has been created: Best Performance While Glued to a Street.

https://tinyurl.com/2zndvuru

Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2022 11:50 AM (ayzS/)

95 91 Left: ancient Indian medicine brought on by spirits must be trusted and believed in

Also left:
Man look at these dumb Xtianists and their belief in sky gods
Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 15, 2022 11:50 AM (AZeyU)

'The man who believes in nothing will believe anything.'--Chesterton

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:51 AM (ynpvh)

96 Most of passenger cars are empty, not because there are no passengers, but because humans need space to live and breathe in, and to be comfortable.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2022 11:50 AM (Ivdso)

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HINT: Assume perfectly spherical humans in a vacuum.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 15, 2022 11:51 AM (Qzn2/)

97 OT-It's not unbiased, but at least it actually reports on some of what Walker said in the debate with Warnock in the GA Senate race. From "The Blaze" website:

https://tinyurl.com/2y9wpzd5

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2022 11:51 AM (vH/6k)

98 Most of passenger cars are empty, not because there are no passengers, but because humans need space to live and breathe in, and to be comfortable.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor a
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Most of the passenger cars are empty because you can fly cheaper.

Posted by: Braenyard , _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 15, 2022 11:52 AM (lEfwZ)

99
They could hook passenger cars onto freight trains according to demand. - see where the market goes -

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The tramp steamer concept, applied to dry land.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 15, 2022 11:52 AM (Qzn2/)

100 94 ICYMI - A new category of Academy Awards has been created: Best Performance While Glued to a Street.

https://tinyurl.com/2zndvuru

Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2022 11:50 AM (ayzS/)

He must play soccer

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:52 AM (ynpvh)

101 I have watched a documentary on the LA aqueduct system. Pretty amazing so of course it was something built long ago.

Posted by: polynikes at October 15, 2022 11:53 AM (nMc+e)

102 Hollywood creates reality for some. The dreamers wake up and think that stuff's reality. When bad times come they will be unsuitable and unneeded. Expendable. 'Hey, zek! Here's your shovel.'

Posted by: Eromero at October 15, 2022 11:53 AM (gktX6)

103 I’m guessing if you combine freight and passenger then the train can’t go very fast, defeating the advantage of a train over driving/flying.

This is what it’s all about. There are 3 ways to get from A to B long distance. Drive, fly or train. Consumers make the decision on price, speed and convenience. There’s nothing magical about a train. Make it cheap, convenient and fast and people will use it. Make it slow and expensive and they won’t.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 15, 2022 11:53 AM (AZeyU)

104 99
They could hook passenger cars onto freight trains according to demand. - see where the market goes -
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The tramp steamer concept, applied to dry land.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 15, 2022 11:52 AM (Qzn2/)

I had ancestors come to the states as steerage. The ships needed to go back to the states for more goods, but didn't want to go back empty, as that was both non-profitable and potentially more dangerous.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:54 AM (ynpvh)

105 Most of the passenger cars are empty because you can fly cheaper.

Somewhat, but you don't have to go through TSA hassle or the misery of baggage claim etc. Nobody is going to do a body cavity search of you when you get on a train. That is worth factoring into cost.

It used to be that a train ticket was cheaper than air, but you had to factor in the cost of buying food since it took longer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2022 11:54 AM (Ivdso)

106 103 I’m guessing if you combine freight and passenger then the train can’t go very fast, defeating the advantage of a train over driving/flying.

This is what it’s all about. There are 3 ways to get from A to B long distance. Drive, fly or train. Consumers make the decision on price, speed and convenience. There’s nothing magical about a train. Make it cheap, convenient and fast and people will use it. Make it slow and expensive and they won’t.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 15, 2022 11:53 AM (AZeyU)

There's walking and biking too. That's what Google maps offers me. I once mapped going by foot to China or Japan. It had my kayaking across the Pacific...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:55 AM (ynpvh)

107 @Fen, sounds like Walker did quite well. Thank you for the link.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 15, 2022 11:55 AM (a7EeY)

108 101 I have watched a documentary on the LA aqueduct system. Pretty amazing so of course it was something built long ago.
Posted by: polynikes at October 15, 2022 11:53 AM (nMc+e)

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In 100 years the dull-witted denizens will gaze at the canals from their wooden pony carts and wonder at the giants that must have built them.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 15, 2022 11:55 AM (Qzn2/)

109 108 101 I have watched a documentary on the LA aqueduct system. Pretty amazing so of course it was something built long ago.
Posted by: polynikes at October 15, 2022 11:53 AM (nMc+e)
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In 100 years the dull-witted denizens will gaze at the canals from their wooden pony carts and wonder at the giants that must have built them.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 15, 2022 11:55 AM (Qzn2/)

The old joke of what socialists used for light before candles...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:56 AM (ynpvh)

110 Mrs Old Blue and I honeymooned in Glenwood Springs. We took the train from Denver and the trip took 8 hours. Could have driven it in 3, but the scenery was magnificent. It was fun, and that was back when they still had a smoking car. A friend took the train from Denver to Reno took over 24 hours. Could have driven it in 16.

Posted by: Old Blue at October 15, 2022 11:56 AM (5tYr3)

111 When I lived in NYC I went to Boston often. The fly/drive/train time was 4 hours give or take for all 3, looking at door to door time. A flight is 45 mins but there is 3 hours of getting to and from the airport, boarding, waiting on the runway, etc.

So that city pair is basically up for grabs since all the modes of travel are the same time. What you then shop on is comfort and price. And Acela is viable. Not perfect but viable.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 15, 2022 11:57 AM (AZeyU)

112 Well, it's not about ruinous leftist policies about transportation, but it is about the other ruinous policies that he feels hurts and kills people and dishonors God.
CA Pastor John MacArthur writes open letter to Governor Gavin Newsom:

https://www.gracechurch.org/news/posts/3592

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2022 11:57 AM (vH/6k)

113 mapped going by foot to China or Japan. It had my kayaking across the Pacific...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:55 AM (ynpvh)

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LOL

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 15, 2022 11:57 AM (Qzn2/)

114 "And if you think about it, Senator, in Atlanta, Georgia, there's more black babies that is aborted than anything. So, if black lives matter, why are you not protecting those babies? And instead of aborting those babies, why are you not baptizing those babies?"
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That's mean, just plain mean. Walker has always been a bully and there he goes pushing that old idolater around.

Posted by: Braenyard , _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 15, 2022 11:57 AM (lEfwZ)

115 112 Well, it's not about ruinous leftist policies about transportation, but it is about the other ruinous policies that he feels hurts and kills people and dishonors God.
CA Pastor John MacArthur writes open letter to Governor Gavin Newsom:

https://www.gracechurch.org/news/posts/3592

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2022 11:57 AM (vH/6k)

Newsome loves the ghoulish practice of killing babies near birth. He loved the fact he was able to destroy businesses during COVID, allowing nudie bars to stay open, but prohibiting attending church/synagogue services. Such a letter has no effect on a man who only wishes to aggregate more power and influence.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:58 AM (ynpvh)

116 81 79 But they aren't, viable that is. They work great for freight, but passenger trains are a net loss.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2022 11:45 AM (Ivdso)

Unless you treat passengers like freight?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

They are called "Pax" for a reason.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 15, 2022 11:59 AM (rPEW9)

117 It gets in the boxcar, unless it wants the hose again.

Posted by: Jame Gumb, Director of Rail Transportation at October 15, 2022 12:00 PM (/fCX6)

118 Warnock seems like a genuine man of God.

*snort*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 15, 2022 12:00 PM (Qzn2/)

119 I always wanted to ride the Orient Express from Paris to Istanbul. There have been several revivals of it but I'm not sure whether any are running now.
Posted by: Cicero
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I once rode on the Trans-Europe Express. Can't recall where I started, or where I was going. I missed my stop. It kind of looked like I *was* going to go to Istanbul, but, to my relief, I got off at a later stop.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 15, 2022 12:01 PM (7+zW5)

120 It sure feels like we (country) are declining. Very few fast food places offer anything but drive-through around here. They've never restaffed and opened dine in areas after covid resrictions. We don't eat out often. Two of the last three times we did we got "we are short staffed so only X portion of the menu is available"

Thursday late afternoon my ISP went out and it was out for 24 hours not just for me; I called and the automated system announced that everyone in the area around my small town was affected. Outages happen; but it feels like they had to go out and find a replacement part rather than having had it on hand.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 15, 2022 12:01 PM (3cGpq)

121 I thought Waller did an admirable job of affirming his friendship with PDT while contrasting it with Biden and Warnock's shameful withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 15, 2022 12:01 PM (a7EeY)

122 118 Warnock seems like a genuine man of God.

*snort*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 15, 2022 12:00 PM (Qzn2/)

Who, Molech?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:01 PM (ynpvh)

123 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:58 AM (ynpvh)

It may very well not have an effect on him-and I think Pastor MacArthur is smart enough to know that-but sometimes a person needs to be prophetic even in the people concerned don't want to hear it and can't accept it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2022 12:02 PM (vH/6k)

124 Somewhat, but you don't have to go through TSA hassle or the misery of baggage claim etc. Nobody is going to do a body cavity search of you when you get on a train. That is worth factoring into cost.

It used to be that a train ticket was cheaper than air, but you had to factor in the cost of buying food since it took longer.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2022 11:54 AM (Ivdso)

Leaving Chicago by train a few years after 9/11, the lady checking people looked as my family as I was getting ready to show ID. All she said was, "I think you're safe" and waved us through.

I like travel by train. There is much more leg room. The two main problems it has is it isn't cost competitive with flying and reliability is dropping.

Posted by: WiNO at October 15, 2022 12:02 PM (EpDzw)

125 123 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:58 AM (ynpvh)

It may very well not have an effect on him-and I think Pastor MacArthur is smart enough to know that-but sometimes a person needs to be prophetic even in the people concerned don't want to hear it and can't accept it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2022 12:02 PM (vH/6k)

And I can accept the message was not really meant for Gavin.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:03 PM (ynpvh)

126 "It gets serious when your family's food supply can be negatively impacted"

This is the plan - on both sides. The progs think they can thin the herd while weaponizing access to food, among other things. The uh... very angry right thinks they can sit back and watch it all burn as food shortages hit the blue hives first/hardest.

I think they're both right. Meanwhile... I love good train systems but the US, as currently constituted, can't do trains, because there does not exist the political willpower to keep barbarians off of them. Nobody wants to ride in a metal tube full of psychopaths if they can avoid it. We all know exactly what is going to happen with any rail system connected to the blue hives.

Posted by: somedood at October 15, 2022 12:03 PM (P69fT)

127 I thought Waller did an admirable job of affirming his friendship with PDT while contrasting it with Biden and Warnock's shameful withdrawal from Afghanistan.

The average pol would have hemmed and hawed, and nattered on about agreeing with some things, and not others. Good for Walker. The press thought they'd trapped him by asking for a yes or no answer. They were a bit nonplussed when the first word out of his mouth was "yes".

Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2022 12:04 PM (ayzS/)

128
All of these trains, all over the world, are run deeply in the red. Deeply.
The famous high-speed commuter trains in Japan cost over $14Billion a year loss to operate.

The only leg of any of these expensive trains that doesn't run at a loss is the Tokyo-Osaka leg.
That said, the Japanese commuter trains on the whole are an annual $14Billion suck on the country.

Do I need to mention that in Japan the pay men to shoehorn the riders into these trains? Yeah, still running at a YUGE loss.

Posted by: Speller at October 15, 2022 12:04 PM (pSotA)

129 Gavin Newsom is one of those Ninth Circle guys.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 15, 2022 12:04 PM (Qzn2/)

130 He must play soccer

And the cop must be a referee. He wasn't having any of it.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2022 12:04 PM (ayzS/)

131 The two main problems it has is it isn't cost competitive with flying and reliability is dropping.

Yeah, trains are notoriously late and bad for timing and at least the Coastal Starlighter swapped out the beautiful old huge luxuroius comfortable thrones they had for passenger seating and replaced them with tiny airline seating type of chairs. Not nearly as comfortable and easy to sit in for long hours. The cars are smaller too so you get less of a sense of comfort and luxury.

I get it: lighter and hence cheaper but just a huge step down from what they used to offer

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2022 12:05 PM (Ivdso)

132 126 "It gets serious when your family's food supply can be negatively impacted"

This is the plan - on both sides. The progs think they can thin the herd while weaponizing access to food, among other things. The uh... very angry right thinks they can sit back and watch it all burn as food shortages hit the blue hives first/hardest.

I think they're both right. Meanwhile... I love good train systems but the US, as currently constituted, can't do trains, because there does not exist the political willpower to keep barbarians off of them. Nobody wants to ride in a metal tube full of psychopaths if they can avoid it. We all know exactly what is going to happen with any rail system connected to the blue hives.

Posted by: somedood at October 15, 2022 12:03 PM (P69fT)

For some reason, "Atlas Shrugged" keeps coming to mind when I think of trains running and what's happening in this country...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:05 PM (ynpvh)

133 I love public transportation. I take it almost every day.
We have a light rail link that goes out to the airport. It is far more convenient than asking someone to drop me off.

Plus, most employers out here heavily subsidize transportation passes. Mine is free. So I can take the light rail, train, bus, water taxi or ferry wherever I want, whenever I want.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 15, 2022 12:05 PM (U2p+3)

134 But you should have seen the goals they set and the amazing details in the milestones!

Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan MFers at October 15, 2022 12:05 PM (02kXm)

135 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:03 PM (ynpvh)

Who do you think the message was meant for? His church?. Well, in that case, IMO he's being pastoral in his prophetic voice. He may very well have self interest, but I don't know him and I respect his leadership in this context.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2022 12:06 PM (vH/6k)

136 130 He must play soccer

And the cop must be a referee. He wasn't having any of it.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2022 12:04 PM (ayzS/)

Honestly, I would've like to see some blood after his hand was removed from the pavement. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:06 PM (ynpvh)

137 Newsome loves the ghoulish practice of killing babies near birth. He loved the fact he was able to destroy businesses during COVID, allowing nudie bars to stay open, but prohibiting attending church/synagogue services. Such a letter has no effect on a man who only wishes to aggregate more power and influence.

John the Baptist got beheaded for his efforts, but that doesn't change the fact that calling out Herod's wickedness was what God expected of him.

Posted by: Methos at October 15, 2022 12:07 PM (kOpft)

138 134 But you should have seen the goals they set and the amazing details in the milestones!

Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan MFers at October 15, 2022 12:05 PM (02kXm)

Yes, comrade, our five-year plans are indeed wonders; one wonders if they will ever work.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:07 PM (ynpvh)

139 There are places in the US where high speed would do well. City pairs that are a 4-5 hour drive or 1 hr flight. Dallas-Houston is perfect for that. And it’s all flat so the speed could be maintained the entire distance. Florida coast works as well.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 15, 2022 11:28 AM (AZeyU)

Well, that's assuming you want to go from downtown to downtown. If you need further ground transportation at the destination, you have to choose between public transit (nasty), or taxis, or rent a car. All of which add to the expense of the trip. Or you can just hop in your car, spend a very few hours on the highway, listening to your own music, without the company of other smelly, crazy people, and drive direct to you destination address.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 15, 2022 12:08 PM (BkvMZ)

140 It may very well not have an effect on him-and I think Pastor MacArthur is smart enough to know that-but sometimes a person needs to be prophetic even in the people concerned don't want to hear it and can't accept it.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2022 12:02 PM (vH/6k)

Sometimes most of the good is done in third parties witnessing the interaction.

Posted by: Methos at October 15, 2022 12:09 PM (kOpft)

141 135 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:03 PM (ynpvh)

Who do you think the message was meant for? His church?. Well, in that case, IMO he's being pastoral in his prophetic voice. He may very well have self interest, but I don't know him and I respect his leadership in this context.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2022 12:06 PM (vH/6k)

His message was meant for the general public who may or may not have some inkling of how evil the things this man has contemplated are. Message was NOT meant for Gavin.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:09 PM (ynpvh)

142 "120 It sure feels like we (country) are declining. Very few fast food places offer anything but drive-through around here. They've never restaffed and opened dine in areas after covid resrictions. We don't eat out often. Two of the last three times we did we got "we are short staffed so only X portion of the menu is available"

Thursday late afternoon my ISP went out and it was out for 24 hours not just for me; I called and the automated system announced that everyone in the area around my small town was affected. Outages happen; but it feels like they had to go out and find a replacement part rather than having had it on hand.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 15, 2022 12:01 PM (3cGpq)"

A lot of people grok the consequences of outsourcing manufacturing. Not nearly as many outside of tech understand the consequences of outsourcing/H1b'ing tech work. If it relies on software or tech-oriented adult supervision, there is a good chance it's fucked and getting worse by the day. It also doesn't do our labor market any favors, reaching down indirectly all the way to the burger flipper level.

Posted by: somedood at October 15, 2022 12:09 PM (P69fT)

143 His message was meant for the general public who may or may not have some inkling of how evil the things this man has contemplated are.

Perhaps it was mean for all: Newsom, the church and the public.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2022 12:11 PM (vH/6k)

144 143 His message was meant for the general public who may or may not have some inkling of how evil the things this man has contemplated are.

Perhaps it was mean for all: Newsom, the church and the public.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2022 12:11 PM (vH/6k)

Newsome will continue to be unrepentant, as are the rest of the Cabal than run California. They have their god, and it is NOT the Almighty.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:13 PM (ynpvh)

145 May a flock of dung beetles take up residence in Gavin Newsom's hair.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 15, 2022 12:14 PM (eGTCV)

146 All of these trains, all over the world, are run deeply in the red. Deeply.
The famous high-speed commuter trains in Japan cost over $14Billion a year loss to operate.

The only leg of any of these expensive trains that doesn't run at a loss is the Tokyo-Osaka leg.
That said, the Japanese commuter trains on the whole are an annual $14Billion suck on the country.

Do I need to mention that in Japan the pay men to shoehorn the riders into these trains? Yeah, still running at a YUGE loss.

Posted by: Speller at October 15, 2022 12:04 PM

In Japan ticket prices are kept artificially low with government subsidies to keep people riding the trains and not buying cars and clogging the roads up anymore than they are now. Back when we were stationed in Japan we could go from Yokosuka to Tokyo for about $2.00. Not sure if it is still that cheap but that was a ridiculously low price.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 15, 2022 12:14 PM (bVYXr)

147 145 May a flock of dung beetles take up residence in Gavin Newsom's hair.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 15, 2022 12:14 PM (eGTCV)

You mean they've upgraded from his ass?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:14 PM (ynpvh)

148 I live 2 1/4 hours driving distance from NYC, about 100 miles NNW from the city in the southern berkshires

so, AMTRAK starts a service between Pittsfield and NYC. Pittsfield is in the northern part of the berkshires and a crime ridden drug center. It is a 45 minute drive north from my place

the cost is 205 each way and takes like 5 hours

crazy, huh ??

Posted by: REDACTED at October 15, 2022 12:14 PM (us2H3)

149 You mean they've upgraded from his ass?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:14 PM (ynpvh)

They've split forces.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 15, 2022 12:15 PM (eGTCV)

150 sorry , NNE

Posted by: REDACTED at October 15, 2022 12:15 PM (us2H3)

151 Will those doctors who pledge to honor independence methods of healing also pledge to honors JWs when they refuse blood transfusions?

Or Ivermectin, HCL and other remedies when SARC-CoViD-3 is unleashed to undermine another election and economy?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 15, 2022 12:15 PM (3hSHB)

152 I think some herbal remedies etc are valid and worth looking into, but they have to prove themselves and be tested scientifically, not just trusted. If you're using juju and grisgris, voodoo and trying to appease spirits, there's nothing in that but ~~religion~~ superstition.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2022 11:48 AM (Ivdso)

Fixed it for you.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 15, 2022 12:15 PM (BkvMZ)

153 MacArthur's letter to Gavin Newsome is exactly what a pastor is supposed to do, and so was his call to his church (and anyone listening) to pray for Newsome's repentance and salvation. These people need Jesus and certainly no soul is beyond God's power to save.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2022 12:16 PM (Ivdso)

154 151 Will those doctors who pledge to honor independence methods of healing also pledge to honors JWs when they refuse blood transfusions?

Or Ivermectin, HCL and other remedies when SARC-CoViD-3 is unleashed to undermine another election and economy?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at October 15, 2022 12:15 PM (3hSHB)

Ivermectin works as an anti-viral AND for reducing the cytokine storm that kills most from COVID. Why it's important to take it BEFORE the cytokine storm has a chance to hit.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:17 PM (ynpvh)

155 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2022 12:16 PM (Ivdso)

Amen.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2022 12:18 PM (vH/6k)

156 Back in the early 2000's... say 2000 - 2003 we were living in Mountain View, CA. I worked in Menlo Park and my wife worked for dot com in Palo Alto. Public transportation in Silicon Valley was superb. Trollies, CalTrain, bike paths everywhere, etc. In 2003 we moved to Seaside just outside of Monterey. I still was working in Menlo Park at that time and the 200 mile round trip commute was.... a grind even with my sporty BMW. I did make the very early (4:30AM) commute in about an hour and change a couple times, but it was taxing. I did take CalTrain frequently too, and it was OK. They had designated passenger cars with bike racks so I could take my bike and ride the mile or so to the office from the Menlo Park station.

I suspect the leftists running the state have ruined all that by now.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 15, 2022 12:18 PM (BFigT)

157 153 MacArthur's letter to Gavin Newsome is exactly what a pastor is supposed to do, and so was his call to his church (and anyone listening) to pray for Newsome's repentance and salvation. These people need Jesus and certainly no soul is beyond God's power to save.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2022 12:16 PM (Ivdso)

Not saying it was the wrong thing to do. Not saying he shouldn't have done it. Just saying in the end will make no difference to Gavin. You can bring a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:19 PM (ynpvh)

158 For a later thread topic, cleaned and painting the shower rod.
Got new curtain and fan for some day soon to install but need some drywall.

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2022 12:20 PM (xhxe8)

159 someone needs to ask Pence how he feels about being used as a prop in Pelosi's farce

Posted by: REDACTED at October 15, 2022 12:20 PM (us2H3)

160 Well, that's assuming you want to go from downtown to downtown.

Amtrak has a train that goes from DC to Florida that takes cars.

Of course, the enviros wouldn't support having more trains like that, because they hate cars.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 15, 2022 12:20 PM (I2/tG)

161 159 someone needs to ask Pence how he feels about being used as a prop in Pelosi's farce

Posted by: REDACTED at October 15, 2022 12:20 PM (us2H3)

"May I please have another, Governess?"--Mikey Pence

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:21 PM (ynpvh)

162 Just saying in the end will make no difference to Gavin. You can bring a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

It probably won't change his mind, but there's always a chance, and if it does not take effect? Um, well that's even worse for him when in a few decades or years gets to hell.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2022 12:21 PM (Ivdso)

163 Oh, fuck the climate

Posted by: CN at October 15, 2022 12:23 PM (Zzbjj)

164 162 Just saying in the end will make no difference to Gavin. You can bring a horse to water, but you can't make him drink.

It probably won't change his mind, but there's always a chance, and if it does not take effect? Um, well that's even worse for him when in a few decades or years gets to hell.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2022 12:21 PM (Ivdso)

So going back to my original statement, my prediction is that as far as Gavin Newsom is concerned and what he does, it won't change him or his policy goals.
Do you disagree with that?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:24 PM (ynpvh)

165 It probably won't change his mind, but there's always a chance, and if it does not take effect? Um, well that's even worse for him when in a few decades or years gets to hell.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2022 12:21 PM (Ivdso)

He won't be able to say he wasn't warned when he stands before the judge.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 15, 2022 12:24 PM (eGTCV)

166 Do you disagree with that?

Let me repeat the line that you quoted:

"It probably won't change his mind"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2022 12:24 PM (Ivdso)

167 No significant water storage has been built in at least 40 years, but the population has...what...doubled?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 15, 2022 11:37 AM (XIJ/X)

Water storage? That's just stupid. We're demolishing dams because our models show that it will never rain again in California.

Next you'll ask us about de-salinization plants. Pfft... that would inconvenience rich people. -- pretty much every Cali Dem politician

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 15, 2022 12:25 PM (uvymP)

168 163 Oh, fuck the climate

Posted by: CN at October 15, 2022 12:23 PM (Zzbjj)

I don't want to have sexual relations with the climate, idiots, or lunatics; they can do that to themselves.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:25 PM (ynpvh)

169 Should we point out that there is technology far superior to trains at getting people across country? Legend speaks of these "airplanes" in hushed whispers but they do exist.

Posted by: NR Pax at October 15, 2022 12:27 PM (Z7Jj3)

170 California's Water Supply Falls Victim to CRT

I read a campaign statement from Berkeley's representative to the East Bay Municipal District, which supplies drinking water to the East Bay. (He's running unopposed.)

What he is proudest of is that he helped block a proposal to raise the height of one of EBMUD's storage dams, which would have provided more water to deal with those frequent pesky droughts and stuff.

Raising the dam would have of course increased the size of the reservoir behind the dam, which would be Raping The Planet, and so was obviously unacceptable.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 15, 2022 12:27 PM (I2/tG)

171 The Manhattan Institute responded by pointing out that, even before the cost overruns, American transportation projects cost far more than projects in other countries.
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My bum brother in law's got to have a job. My sister and the children have to live within the lifestyle they are accustomed. etc
Posted by: Braenyard , _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 15, 2022 11:38 AM (lEfwZ)

We're going to have to spend the next 10 years cataloging every insect and microbe which might be affected to see if we can plausibly call them endangered.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 15, 2022 12:27 PM (uvymP)

172 Amtrak has a train that goes from DC to Florida that takes cars.

Of course, the enviros wouldn't support having more trains like that, because they hate cars.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 15, 2022 12:20 PM (I2/tG)

The railways in Canada have had a "Car Go Rail" service since the 1960's. I looked into it once, thinking a tour of the Maritimes might be fun. Very expensive, and not very much faster than driving all the way.

Riding the train, you get to see a lot of pretty scenery, but if anything really captures you interest, good luck with stopping to really take it in. Travelling by car, you can stop whenever and wherever the mood seizes you.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 15, 2022 12:27 PM (BkvMZ)

173 168 back in the 70s even magazines for teen girls had articles on how to deal with environmental crazies...our grandchildren have gone over to the dark side

Posted by: CN at October 15, 2022 12:28 PM (Zzbjj)

174 169 Should we point out that there is technology far superior to trains at getting people across country? Legend speaks of these "airplanes" in hushed whispers but they do exist.

Posted by: NR Pax at October 15, 2022 12:27 PM (Z7Jj3)

Uses too much carbon. Need to use Electric vehicles that use a ton of carbon to acquire the materials and build, and to generate the electricity they need to unreliably get you from point A to point B.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:28 PM (ynpvh)

175 172 Travelling by car, you can stop whenever and wherever the mood seizes you.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 15, 2022 12:27 PM (BkvMZ)

That's called listening to my bladder.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:29 PM (ynpvh)

176 Uses too much carbon. Need to use Electric vehicles that use a ton of carbon to acquire the materials and build, and to generate the electricity they need to unreliably get you from point A to point B.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:28 PM

And catch on fire when they get wet.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 15, 2022 12:30 PM (bVYXr)

177 Now do "Honolulu Area Rapid Transit". Lol

Posted by: Muthaucker at October 15, 2022 12:30 PM (pN0Zg)

178 Commies Love Trains.

Strelnikov!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 15, 2022 12:31 PM (R/m4+)

179 When did California start turning into Mordor?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 15, 2022 12:31 PM (eGTCV)

180 177 Now do "Honolulu Area Rapid Transit". Lol

Posted by: Muthaucker at October 15, 2022 12:30 PM (pN0Zg)

I love that Hawaii has Interstates. And those roads go between Hawaii and what other state? Yeah, I know; federal funding.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:32 PM (ynpvh)

181 179 When did California start turning into Mordor?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 15, 2022 12:31 PM (eGTCV)

It was gradual at first, but sped up since the late 90's. It's getting kinda hot in this pot now...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:32 PM (ynpvh)

182 A number of countries have luxury trains for tourists but they are not high speed, they're indulgent.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 15, 2022 12:34 PM (eGTCV)

183 Yeah stuff like the Orient Express, its not fast, its just super luxurious.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2022 12:35 PM (Ivdso)

184 182 A number of countries have luxury trains for tourists but they are not high speed, they're indulgent.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 15, 2022 12:34 PM (eGTCV)

"Excuse me, would you happen to have any Grey Poupon?"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:35 PM (ynpvh)

185 This is what it’s all about. There are 3 ways to get from A to B long distance. Drive, fly or train. Consumers make the decision on price, speed and convenience. There’s nothing magical about a train. Make it cheap, convenient and fast and people will use it. Make it slow and expensive and they won’t.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 15, 2022 11:53 AM (AZeyU)

And, convince enough people to travel by rail and you have to figure out what to do with all the freight which normally uses it.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 15, 2022 12:35 PM (uvymP)

186 Indulgent sounds nice.

Posted by: Braenyard , _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 15, 2022 12:36 PM (lEfwZ)

187 Heh. When PennCentral went tits up and the feds took it over, the new monster was aptly named 'CONrail'. I was a camp-car attendant with my dad as the cook. A dozen family members and close friends garnered jobs with them beginning around 1976-77. When the government deal was about to end wjth Norfolk Pacific taking over, the lawsuits blossomed forth like the desert after spring rains. From carpal tunnel (my brother snagged 40 grand lump payment for two wrists) to One point million something something for my Uncle's 'neck injury' as an equipment operator.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at October 15, 2022 12:37 PM (3Or4S)

188 Amtrak pulls over to let freight trains by, the freight takes priority on the rails because the rails are owned by the freight companies. So you are traveling along and then get pulled on to a side rail and sit for like 15 minutes.

Its not so bad on a train because there's a snack bar and places to go play cards or fire up a laptop with the free internet, etc. The lounge cars are comfortable and friendly, nice to read on etc. But its a delay.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2022 12:37 PM (Ivdso)

189 Newsome loves the ghoulish practice of killing babies near birth. He loved the fact he was able to destroy businesses during COVID, allowing nudie bars to stay open, but prohibiting attending church/synagogue services. Such a letter has no effect on a man who only wishes to aggregate more power and influence.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 11:58 AM (ynpvh)

Martin Luther's theses nailed to the cathedral doors did not affect Rome or even his bishop. It did act as a starting point for debate, and gave positions that normal people (OK, and German princes) could aggregate around.
Luther did not fail because Leo X did not get his mail immediately.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 15, 2022 12:38 PM (xhaym)

190 CA has reached the locust infestation point. Unless CA gets the Utah miracle, the pols will have CA stripped bare in a decade. Maybe less.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 15, 2022 12:38 PM (a7EeY)

191 Cheap, comfortable and as fast as a car - people will fill the train.

Posted by: Braenyard , _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 15, 2022 12:38 PM (lEfwZ)

192 > someone needs to ask Pence how he feels about being used as a prop in Pelosi's farce
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I seriously doubt he was "used." More than likely he helped plan and orchestrate the coup. From the day he was foisted on Trump as VP the fix was in.

(I don't think Pence was solely Trump's pick)

YMMV

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 15, 2022 12:38 PM (BFigT)

193 ChiTrib offers hope: "Slime flux disease is no cause for concern"

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at October 15, 2022 12:38 PM (24fqN)

194 169 Should we point out that there is technology far superior to trains at getting people across country? Legend speaks of these "airplanes" in hushed whispers but they do exist.
Posted by: NR Pax at October 15, 2022 12:27 PM (Z7Jj3)

If Man were meant to fly, God would have created him with a Jet Engine shoved up his ass!

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 15, 2022 12:39 PM (oHd/0)

195 Commies Love Trains.

Commies hate personal mobility. They want to completely control your movements.

China's banning of people with low social credit scores from buying plane and train tickets is only the next step.

I have also heard that the J6 defendants who are not jailed basically get strip-searched every time they try to fly.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 15, 2022 12:39 PM (I2/tG)

196 189 Posted by: Kindltot at October 15, 2022 12:38 PM (xhaym)

True. Now read the rest of the comments.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:39 PM (ynpvh)

197 From carpal tunnel (my brother snagged 40 grand lump payment for two wrists) to One point million something something for my Uncle's 'neck injury' as an equipment operator.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at October 15, 2022 12:37 PM (3Or4S)

Do they know about Camp Lejeune?

Posted by: TV Scheisters Everywhere at October 15, 2022 12:39 PM (AiZBA)

198 WaPo travel suggestions: "My friend was killed deep in the Amazon forest. I went to investigate."

Posted by: Apply gp Directly To Forehead at October 15, 2022 12:39 PM (24fqN)

199 I seriously doubt he was "used." More than likely he helped plan and orchestrate the coup. From the day he was foisted on Trump as VP the fix was in.

(I don't think Pence was solely Trump's pick)

YMMV
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 15, 2022 12:38 PM (BFigT)

Pence IS the one who got Flynn fired, for LYING to him... not lying to Trump, lying to Pence.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 15, 2022 12:40 PM (oHd/0)

200 194 169 Should we point out that there is technology far superior to trains at getting people across country? Legend speaks of these "airplanes" in hushed whispers but they do exist.
Posted by: NR Pax at October 15, 2022 12:27 PM (Z7Jj3)

If Man were meant to fly, God would have created him with a Jet Engine shoved up his ass!

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 15, 2022 12:39 PM (oHd/0)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx6hmUv06tg

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:40 PM (ynpvh)

201 If Man were meant to fly, God would have created him with a Jet Engine shoved up his ass!
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 15, 2022 12:39 PM (oHd/0)

This is about me, isn't it.

Posted by: Eric Swalwell at October 15, 2022 12:40 PM (AiZBA)

202 Well, off to grab something to eat and then spend some more time tilting at the CA Health Care windmill.

Later!

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 15, 2022 12:41 PM (a7EeY)

203 Its not so bad on a train because there's a snack bar and places to go play cards or fire up a laptop with the free internet, etc. The lounge cars are comfortable and friendly, nice to read on etc. But its a delay.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2022 12:37 PM (Ivdso)
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If they allowed Amtrak to travel at the speed of freight they wouldn't need to pull over.

Posted by: Braenyard , _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 15, 2022 12:41 PM (lEfwZ)

204 Commies hate personal mobility. They want to completely control your movements.

Yeah, its not so much that they love trains (although I think they do), its that they want people's movements more easily controlled. You can stop people from getting anywhere if you force them all onto transportation only you control. If they are able to drive where they what personally its much harder to control them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2022 12:42 PM (Ivdso)

205 201 If Man were meant to fly, God would have created him with a Jet Engine shoved up his ass!
Posted by: Romeo13 at October 15, 2022 12:39 PM (oHd/0)

This is about me, isn't it.

Posted by: Eric Swalwell at October 15, 2022 12:40 PM (AiZBA)

I've always posited, even as a kid, that that is superman's form of locomotion in the air. That's how he can "float" in place, yet be so incredibly dense.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:42 PM (ynpvh)

206 Pence IS the one who got Flynn fired, for LYING to him... not lying to Trump, lying to Pence.
Posted by: Romeo13
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He may not catch hell now but he will later on
For Sure

Posted by: Braenyard , _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 15, 2022 12:43 PM (lEfwZ)

207 The day they passed the train bill, it reeked of corruption. The stench continues.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 15, 2022 12:43 PM (anj39)

208 Socks-R-Us no more.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 15, 2022 12:43 PM (AiZBA)

209 There's a Youtube channel "Lost in the Pond" run by an English guy who moved to the US. Every so often he'll do a video on "Why are Americans so stupid and don't use rail like super-smart Europeans?" and every time his answer is that Europeans, even ones who've visited the US, have no idea how mind-boggling big it is.

For example, the distance from Paris to Rome is about the same as crossing Texas.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 15, 2022 12:44 PM (uvymP)

210 someone needs to ask Pence how he feels about being used as a prop in Pelosi's farce

I wonder if Pence has had a meeting with Trump about '24 (you're fired!), or if he just assumes he's a dead man boring.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2022 12:44 PM (ayzS/)

211 209 There's a Youtube channel "Lost in the Pond" run by an English guy who moved to the US. Every so often he'll do a video on "Why are Americans so stupid and don't use rail like super-smart Europeans?" and every time his answer is that Europeans, even ones who've visited the US, have no idea how mind-boggling big it is.

For example, the distance from Paris to Rome is about the same as crossing Texas.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 15, 2022 12:44 PM (uvymP)

Why did the Euroweenies go all in on "renewable" power, only now to be coming into a winter without fuel? That seem pretty stupid.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:45 PM (ynpvh)

212 its that they want people's movements more easily controlled

A transgender Communist "housing activist" in California clearly explains the political goal behind making people live in apartments and making people take mass transit:

https://tinyurl.com/2ramwvbv

Opinion: Why Building Housing Near Mass Transit Promotes Collectivism

It will break us from the chains of capitalistic individualism and the destructive car-centric lifestyle.
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Likewise, mass transit is in line with socialist values: people collectively getting to and from places – on trains, buses, or ferries run by our government. On transit owned by all of us.

Suburban housing tracts and sprawl, on the other hand, have their roots in capitalism and individualism — a man’s home is his castle and so on. It’s also car-centric with people traveling alone in their privately owned vehicles. Perpetuation of suburbia is diametrically opposed to the furtherance of collectivism.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 15, 2022 12:47 PM (I2/tG)

213 True. Now read the rest of the comments.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:39 PM (ynpvh)

Well, that's me told off.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 15, 2022 12:48 PM (xhaym)

214 Do I need to mention that in Japan the pay men to shoehorn the riders into these trains? Yeah, still running at a YUGE loss.
Posted by: Speller at October 15, 2022 12:04 PM (pSotA)

Train's gonna run even if it's empty. A flight would just get canceled.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 15, 2022 12:48 PM (uvymP)

215 Trains - a 19th century solution to 21st century transportation needs.

Posted by: a.moron at October 15, 2022 12:49 PM (F6Xpw)

216 213 True. Now read the rest of the comments.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:39 PM (ynpvh)

Well, that's me told off.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 15, 2022 12:48 PM (xhaym)

Not trying to be unkind.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:49 PM (ynpvh)

217 Do they know about Camp Lejeune?

Posted by: TV Scheisters Everywhere at October 15, 2022 12:39 PM (AiZBA)

At this point, natives in south america in remote jungles wearing loin cloths and hunting monkeys with blow guns know about camp lejeune.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 15, 2022 12:50 PM (VwHCD)

218 Trains - a 19th century solution to 21st century transportation needs.
Posted by: a.moron at October 15, 2022 12:49 PM (F6Xpw)

Communism - A 19th century solution to nothing.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 15, 2022 12:50 PM (AiZBA)

219 and every time his answer is that Europeans, even ones who've visited the US, have no idea how mind-boggling big it is.

It would take at least a couple of days to go from Los Angeles to New York on high-speed rail.

Japan, with its bullet trains, is only the size of California.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 15, 2022 12:50 PM (I2/tG)

220 215 Trains - a 19th century solution to 21st century transportation needs.

Posted by: a.moron at October 15, 2022 12:49 PM (F6Xpw)

walking and horse and cart. That seems what our betters want for us for the latter part of the 21st.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:50 PM (ynpvh)

221 It will break us from the chains of capitalistic individualism and the destructive car-centric lifestyle.

What's more selfishly individuality than demanding everyone bow to your delusions?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 15, 2022 12:50 PM (eGTCV)

222 For example, the distance from Paris to Rome is about the same as crossing Texas.

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Now do Berlin to Moscow.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Smarter Than Lumpy Fetterman! at October 15, 2022 12:50 PM (FVME7)

223 I find it interesting that the French firm pulled out in 2011 and I only first saw it in the media a week ago.
I wonder if Californians know about this yet?

Posted by: Diogenes at October 15, 2022 12:50 PM (anj39)

224 Could there possibly be a more toxic brew than the blending of "transgender" and "communist"?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 15, 2022 12:51 PM (Xrfse)

225 Been some years since read about Boston's Big Dig and the hundreds of % over costs.

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2022 12:52 PM (xhxe8)

226 Kindltot,

I apologize for being brusque.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:52 PM (ynpvh)

227 Communism - A 19th century solution to nothing.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 15, 2022 12:50 PM (AiZBA)

Well, it earns its adherents free helicopter rides...

Posted by: zombie Augusto Pinochet at October 15, 2022 12:54 PM (5s54T)

228 218 Trains - a 19th century solution to 21st century transportation needs.
Posted by: a.moron at October 15, 2022 12:49 PM (F6Xpw)

Communism - A 19th century solution to nothing.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 15, 2022 12:50 PM (AiZBA)

If you want hell on earth, Communism is your ticket.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:54 PM (ynpvh)

229 I believe the lawyering of Camp LeJeune is all about the left punishing the USMC.

Posted by: Eromero at October 15, 2022 12:55 PM (/RDPd)

230 I have the swells of my neighborhood's Leaf Blower Concerto #9 reverberating through my house. Fall is officially here.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 15, 2022 12:55 PM (Xrfse)

231 footage of 'family friendly' drag show sees performer spreading their legs and thrusting their breasts in front of children who are encouraged to leave tips

Young kids were present as the sexually suggestive moves were made on a catwalk with the drag queen spreading their legs and thrusting their breasts forward.

https://bit.ly/3eFGYiJ

Posted by: Braenyard , _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 15, 2022 12:55 PM (lEfwZ)

232 Could there possibly be a more toxic brew than the blending of "transgender" and "communist"?

One of the reasons why the UniParty supports transgenderism is that transgenders are the mentally ill shock troops of the Revolution.

An astonishingly high percentage of the people arrested at the summer 2020 riots in Portland were transgender, despite the fact that transgenders are a tiny fraction of the population.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 15, 2022 12:56 PM (I2/tG)

233
LA to Vegas really SHOULD be one of those few rail lines that actually could make a profit. I15 is the only road to Vegas from LA, so it's always jammed with traffic, and when people go to Vegas, they really don't need their cars much since most folks just stay in the casinos. It's one of the few places where rail travel would be faster than driving. And besides, you can just rent a car in Vegas if you really need it, the rental will probably be less than the gas cost for doing the LA/Vegas drive.

But that won't happen. Because people want to drive their OWN car, without being beholden to the rail schedule, or the whims of the car rental company. Plus, leaving your car in a minimally patrolled lot in Apple Valley while you ride the train is just asking for vandalism or car theft, 60 miles away from home, because those high desert towns like AV, Barstow, Adelanto, Victorville etc are meth havens.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 15, 2022 12:56 PM (KYKwc)

234 Could there possibly be a more toxic brew than the blending of "transgender" and "communist"?
Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 15, 2022 12:51 PM (Xrfse)

Two infallible markers for evil.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 15, 2022 12:56 PM (5s54T)

235 232 Could there possibly be a more toxic brew than the blending of "transgender" and "communist"?

One of the reasons why the UniParty supports transgenderism is that transgenders are the mentally ill shock troops of the Revolution.

An astonishingly high percentage of the people arrested at the summer 2020 riots in Portland were transgender, despite the fact that transgenders are a tiny fraction of the population.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 15, 2022 12:56 PM (I2/tG)

Same reason the FIB uses the retarded.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 12:56 PM (ynpvh)

236 Rupert Murdoch is planning reunion of broadcaster Fox Corp and his publishing business News Corp - a decade after the entities were separated as he seeks greater control and to cut costs
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Could it be that Pop's is taking the business away from the kids?

Posted by: Braenyard , _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 15, 2022 12:57 PM (lEfwZ)

237 Indian medicine, like Quinine ?(hydroxychlorquine!!)

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at October 15, 2022 12:58 PM (3Or4S)

238 Here in the damn town that begat us Gavin Gruesom, we're having unusually cloudy/foggy/damp weather -- October is usually a dry and fairly warm month until the end. However, I love it.

Posted by: SFGoth at October 15, 2022 12:59 PM (KAi1n)

239 Could it be that Pop's is taking the business away from the kids?

It certainly looks that way. Good. Make them get real jobs based on their qualifications. Toll booth attendant should be a consideration.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2022 01:00 PM (ayzS/)

240 Rupert Murdoch is planning reunion of broadcaster Fox Corp and his publishing business News Corp - a decade after the entities were separated as he seeks greater control and to cut costs

Pops is a NeverTrumper, right?

Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2022 01:01 PM (mR6Gs)

241 231 footage of 'family friendly' drag show sees performer spreading their legs and thrusting their breasts in front of children who are encouraged to leave tips

Young kids were present as the sexually suggestive moves were made on a catwalk with the drag queen spreading their legs and thrusting their breasts forward.

https://bit.ly/3eFGYiJ
Posted by: Braenyard , _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman

You know. I really don't care about this crap. Shame on the parents for exposing their kids to this shit just so they can post on social media for the brownie points.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 15, 2022 01:02 PM (U2p+3)

242 University of Minnesota Medical School

Making bleeding out the evil blood popular again.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 15, 2022 01:02 PM (anj39)

243 Pops is a NeverTrumper, right?

I don't know, but I do know he's a NeverPoorer.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 15, 2022 01:02 PM (ayzS/)

244 John Fetterman's wife. Really

https://bit.ly/3ELpJYa

Posted by: Braenyard , _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 15, 2022 01:02 PM (lEfwZ)

245 One of the reasons why the UniParty supports transgenderism is that transgenders are the mentally ill shock troops of the Revolution.

As you've pointed out, there are not enough of them to facilitate those fever dreams. Having said that, when the multitude of lost souls permanently damaged by "progressive" ideology are thrown into the mix, there is much cause for concern.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 15, 2022 01:03 PM (Xrfse)

246 Regarding the California High Speed Train project: Did anyone do a study on how many people would want to travel between LA and San Fran? To justify the astronomical expense that was projected for this project? I lived in LA for about 10 years and never saw this pressing need to a high speed train. When I did drive to San Fran it took 6 hours, which was ok. But unless you actually live in LA and work in San Fran...what was the actual purpose of this train? What burning need did it fulfill? Or was it what I expect...just a huge boondoggle aimed at enriching politicians and construction companies. And nothing else. In a state that is bankrupt. I know the answer is the latter.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at October 15, 2022 01:03 PM (+a8WH)

247 For example, the distance from Paris to Rome is about the same as crossing Texas.

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Now do Berlin to Moscow.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Smarter Than Lumpy Fetterman! at October 15, 2022 12:50 PM (FVME7)

European cities are all relatively close compared to ours

Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2022 01:04 PM (mR6Gs)

248 When you're talking about flying versus driving versus train, one also has to take into account how one will get around at the destination. If one has to rent a car at the train station, one is no better off. If one is headed to a hotel in the suburbs, that hotel may well pick up guests at the airport for free.

Then there is the problem of incremental cost. The added cost per body of driving is minimal. The added cost for trains and planes is another ticket.

Posted by: Gordon Scott at October 15, 2022 01:05 PM (PlCVJ)

249 Speaking of Rupert, did you see this?

"Paul Ryan predicts Trump will not be 2024 Republican nominee"

https://is.gd/CtHRPm

"We all know he will lose, or let me put it this way: we all know he's much more likely to lose the White House than anybody else running for president on our side of the aisle. So why would we want to go with that?"

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 15, 2022 01:06 PM (ju2Fy)

250 Now do Berlin to Moscow.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Smarter Than Lumpy Fetterman! at October 15, 2022 12:50 PM (FVME7)

Tell me about it.

Posted by: Zombie Gen Wilhelm von Leeb at October 15, 2022 01:07 PM (anj39)

251 But unless you actually live in LA and work in San Fran...what was the actual purpose of this train?

A frequent argument is that it would allow people to live a considerable distance away from Los Angeles and San Francisco and commute to work from an area with much cheaper housing.

Two problems with this: most jobs aren't in downtown San Francisco or downtown Los Angeles, or anyplace near a high rail stop, and having a lot of stops defeats the purpose of having high-speed rail.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 15, 2022 01:07 PM (I2/tG)

252 I just cannot take Democrats seriously when they try to pretend that the GOP is the party of rubes, bumpkins, conspiracy nuts, science-deniers, and general-purpose idiots, and California's governance is exhibit A, B, and C-F as to why they have it mostly backwards. And are entirely backwards. (G-Z comprise the rest of their shoddily-run political fiefdoms.) I won't say conservatism doesn't attract its share of same, and the Republican party is undeniably filled with hucksters, hacks, paranoiacs, and terminally stupid partisans, but at least the general thrust of the party is toward liberty and reducing the scope and scale of f--kuppery government is capable of perpetrating. Ceteris paribus, I'll take the mouthbreathing room-temp IQ cretins who want to do less and take less over those who want to take all and fail to do anything.

Posted by: mea culpa at October 15, 2022 01:07 PM (lKLIl)

253 Whether one arrives by plane or train alternate transportation will be necessary.

Posted by: Braenyard , _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 15, 2022 01:08 PM (lEfwZ)

254 Just as the ghey movement in 70s and now out of steam since getting all they could dream for it has to have a new locomotive

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2022 01:08 PM (xhxe8)

255 251 But unless you actually live in LA and work in San Fran...what was the actual purpose of this train?

A frequent argument is that it would allow people to live a considerable distance away from Los Angeles and San Francisco and commute to work from an area with much cheaper housing.

Two problems with this: most jobs aren't in downtown San Francisco or downtown Los Angeles, or anyplace near a high rail stop, and having a lot of stops defeats the purpose of having high-speed rail.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 15, 2022 01:07 PM (I2/tG)

Back before gas was so expensive, I could get a flight from SAN to SFO for less than $100.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 01:08 PM (ynpvh)

256 Commies hate personal mobility. They want to completely control your movements.
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A mobile population is difficult to subjugate. Thus, the move towards EV's.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 15, 2022 01:09 PM (BFigT)

257 "Paul Ryan predicts Trump will not be 2024 Republican nominee"..."We all know he will lose, or let me put it this way: we all know he's much more likely to lose the White House than anybody else running for president on our side of the aisle. So why would we want to go with that?"

That Motherfucker never was on our side of the aisle. I hate him with the heat of a thousand burning suns. He was the one responsible for throwing the House to Pelosi and the Dems.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at October 15, 2022 01:09 PM (+a8WH)

258 I'm out. Have a good day.
Sorry, Kindltot.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 15, 2022 01:09 PM (ynpvh)

259 Judge rules Florida's ban on federal and state funded trans care IS lawful

Posted by: Braenyard , _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 15, 2022 01:10 PM (lEfwZ)

260 one also has to take into account how one will get around at the destination

I frequently had to travel to Seattle for meetings. Simple rule - if the meeting was in a hotel across the street from the airport (or, very occasionally, in the airport terminal itself), I flew.

If the meeting was anywhere else, I drove.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 15, 2022 01:10 PM (I2/tG)

261 At this point, natives in south america in remote jungles wearing loin cloths and hunting monkeys with blow guns know about camp lejeune.
Posted by: Berserker
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Has overtaken and passed Round Up in the bottom-feeder lawyer race.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 15, 2022 01:11 PM (7+zW5)

262 A few articles now on Sundowner blaming the very near future Republican congress for the high inflation. It is hardly acknowledge by the Democrats Propaganda Ministry but by end of January it will be front and center every broadcast from them.

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2022 01:11 PM (xhxe8)

263 "Paul Ryan predicts Trump will not be 2024 Republican nominee"..."We all know he will lose, or let me put it this way: we all know he's much more likely to lose the White House than anybody else running for president on our side of the aisle. So why would we want to go with that?"

This fucking guy

Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2022 01:12 PM (mR6Gs)

264 Whether one arrives by plane or train alternate transportation will be necessary.

Posted by: Braenyard
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Light rail!

Posted by: Pete Butterjug at October 15, 2022 01:13 PM (7+zW5)

265 I believe the lawyering of Camp LeJeune is all about the left punishing the USMC.
Posted by: Eromero at October 15, 2022 12:55 PM

And annoying the ever loving fcuk out of everyone with an email address.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 15, 2022 01:13 PM (ycNej)

266 When the Republicans do win the house, and possibly the Senate, they'll think it's all because of THEM because Trump--unlike in 2020--wasn't on the ticket.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2022 01:13 PM (mR6Gs)

267 At this point, natives in south america in remote jungles wearing loin cloths and hunting monkeys with blow guns know about camp lejeune.
Posted by: Berserker

Not to mention the time frame involved...1953 to 1987???? FFS, how in the world can you prove cancer or anything else because of where you lived 40 to 50 years ago. Just another Joe Biden approved shakedown of the taxpayer.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at October 15, 2022 01:13 PM (+a8WH)

268 I mean on the ballot

Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2022 01:14 PM (mR6Gs)

269 "Paul Ryan predicts Trump will not be 2024 Republican nominee"..."We all know he will lose, or let me put it this way: we all know he's much more likely to lose the White House than anybody else running for president on our side of the aisle. So why would we want to go with that?"

This fucking guy

Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2022 01:12 PM (mR6Gs)

he should go back to doing covers for MAD magazine.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 15, 2022 01:14 PM (VwHCD)

270 because of where you lived 40 to 50 years ago.
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70 years ago.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 15, 2022 01:14 PM (7+zW5)

271
Perpetuation of suburbia is diametrically opposed to the furtherance of collectivism.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

You betcha

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 15, 2022 01:15 PM (63Dwl)

272 old dog, what Ryan meant was 'we'll help the dems steal another election from President Trump. Just like did in 2020.'

Posted by: Eromero at October 15, 2022 01:15 PM (/RDPd)

273 90% of the weekend pundit news shows are meant to be salve for a few thousand depressed loony lefties in NYC and Chicago and LA - Trump is this close to losing it all in court! He's going to jail at last! All the Dems are winning! etc etc.

Its Commie Porn for a rapidly shrinking and now vanishing small audience of semi-adults sporting manbuns or reddish-purple pumpkin hair. A normal human, American or not, cannot even comprehend the fervent gibberish these beings who seem bent on going extinct" are so animated about. It's easy to now surmise that the press, journalists if you will, now comprise most of these "beings."

Posted by: Boswell at October 15, 2022 01:15 PM (+Cgut)

274
I think some herbal remedies etc are valid and worth looking into, but they have to prove themselves and be tested scientifically, not just trusted. If you're using juju and grisgris, voodoo and trying to appease spirits, there's nothing in that but religion.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Actually, a surprising number of modern pharmaceuticals are in fact herbal remedies, refined and processed for consistency and predictable effects.

That's why I get annoyed with the medical marijuana scam. While there are definite pharmacological effects of the stuff, there's no definition of dosage, concentration of THC or other compounds etc. It's like if you had chronic pain and your doc prescribed "opoids", without specifying whether he was talking about morphine, oxy, vicodin, coedine, heroin, fentanyl etc., or the dosage, leaving all of that up to you to decide.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 15, 2022 01:16 PM (KYKwc)

275 That was fun. I just emailed the California water racism people and told them they were grifting racist frauds.

Now they'll sue me for a billion dollars.

Easy come easy go.

Posted by: torabora at October 15, 2022 01:16 PM (Y274z)

276 Paul Ryan? He is who you thought he was!

Posted by: Dennis Green at October 15, 2022 01:16 PM (Xrfse)

277 I could also state that anyone who got cancer also ate potatoes. It is absolutely undeniable. So let's start a class action lawsuit against Idaho.

FFS. Shakespeare was right.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at October 15, 2022 01:17 PM (+a8WH)

278 A few articles now on Sundowner blaming the very near future Republican congress for the high inflation. It is hardly acknowledge by the Democrats Propaganda Ministry but by end of January it will be front and center every broadcast from them.
Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2022 01:11 PM (xhxe

That's why they won't admit we're in a recession. They're waiting for the Republicans to take over before announcing it. And when the Strategic Petroleum Reserves are dried up and gas goes to $7 a gallon, THAT too will be blamed on Republicans---who actually do deserve it because they are such cocksuckers, but i digress.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2022 01:17 PM (mR6Gs)

279 "Not nearly as many outside of tech understand the consequences of outsourcing/H1b'ing tech work. If it relies on software or tech-oriented adult supervision, there is a good chance it's fucked and getting worse by the day."

Ten years ago Geek Squad Tech Support was good value for the money. You spoke to someone in the U.S. and they listened instead of working a script. I gave it as a gift to some family, and on Christmas Day the techs cleaned years of accumulated crap off their computers, remotely, no fuss.

Now it's called Total Tech. Originally if you dumped a drink into your laptop, they'd repair or replace it. Now you pay for parts. The hardware repairs are still competent, and most of the in-store work is okay. But the online support is out of India now, and it's useless. Even the in-store techs will say so.

Posted by: Gordon Scott at October 15, 2022 01:17 PM (PlCVJ)

280 Light rail!
Posted by: Pete Butterjug at October 15, 2022 01:13 PM

Monorail!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 15, 2022 01:17 PM (ycNej)

281 Its Commie Porn for a rapidly shrinking and now vanishing small audience of semi-adults sporting manbuns or reddish-purple pumpkin hair.
Posted by: Boswell at October 15, 2022 01:15 PM (+Cgut)

Doucheknots, not manbuns. Its doucheknots.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 15, 2022 01:17 PM (VwHCD)

282 I could also state that anyone who got cancer also ate potatoes. It is absolutely undeniable. So let's start a class action lawsuit against Idaho.
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Everyone who has ever eaten carrots, died. There, I said it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 15, 2022 01:18 PM (7+zW5)

283 #274

Smoking marijuana is like drinking alcohol. You consume it until its allllllll gone.

Posted by: torabora at October 15, 2022 01:18 PM (Y274z)

284 > The trains are now planned to run from Bakersfield to Merced

No one outside a Merle Haggard or Buck Owens song has ever wanted to travel between those destinations, and all the guys in those songs already have pickup trucks.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 15, 2022 01:19 PM (bW8dp)

285 90% of the weekend pundit news shows are meant to be salve for a few thousand depressed loony lefties in NYC and Chicago and LA - Trump is this close to losing it all in court! He's going to jail at last! All the Dems are winning! etc etc.

They have been catering to this group since that GLORIOUS night in November 2017.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2022 01:19 PM (mR6Gs)

286 November 2016

Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2022 01:20 PM (mR6Gs)

287 Ten years ago Geek Squad Tech Support was good value for the money.

Except for the bit where they searched your hard drive on behalf of the FBI.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 15, 2022 01:20 PM (I2/tG)

288 John Fetterman's wife. Really
https://bit.ly/3ELpJYa
Posted by: Braenyard , _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 15, 2022 01:02 PM (lEfwZ)

Does his neck gunt have an old lady neck gunt?

Probably better looking.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 15, 2022 01:20 PM (R/m4+)

289 Everyone who has ever eaten carrots, died. There, I said it.

Heh. Miss ya, Rush.

Posted by: Dennis Green at October 15, 2022 01:20 PM (Xrfse)

290 I could also state that anyone who got cancer also ate potatoes. It is absolutely undeniable. So let's start a class action lawsuit against Idaho.
-----

Everyone who has ever eaten carrots, died. There, I said it.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 15, 2022 01:18 PM (7+zW5)

Let's sue Carrot top

Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2022 01:21 PM (mR6Gs)

291 Eh. Green sock off.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 15, 2022 01:21 PM (Xrfse)

292 I really honestly blame Ryan for much of Trump's problems, if that fk wad would have gt on board it would have gone better day 1

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2022 01:22 PM (xhxe8)

293 old dog, what Ryan meant was 'we'll help the dems steal another election from President Trump. Just like did in 2020.'
Posted by: Eromero at October 15, 2022 01:15
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Yeah. He's in on the fix. Thought it was weird he let the cat out of the bag.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 15, 2022 01:22 PM (ju2Fy)

294 I really honestly blame Ryan for much of Trump's problems, if that fk wad would have gt on board it would have gone better day 1

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2022 01:22 PM (xhxe

Agree 100%. Ryan is the face of Vichy.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at October 15, 2022 01:23 PM (+a8WH)

295 This fucking guy

Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2022 01:12 PM (mR6Gs)

he should go back to doing covers for MAD magazine.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 15, 2022 01:14 PM (VwHCD)

Ryan always looked like that guy in the old caricature who was eating his own face

Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2022 01:23 PM (mR6Gs)

296 I really honestly blame Ryan for much of Trump's problems, if that fk wad would have gt on board it would have gone better day 1
Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2022 01:22 PM (xhxe

Concur. Ryan is nothing more than dog squeeze bleached white by the sun.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 15, 2022 01:23 PM (R/m4+)

297 These Camp LeJeune fecalites are the grandsons oh the cigarette lawyers. A thieves dynasty of gov-sanctioned taxpayer rape.

Posted by: Eromero at October 15, 2022 01:24 PM (/RDPd)

298 Berlin to Moscow: 1131 miles, about halfway across the US.

That's why I get annoyed with the medical marijuana scam.

Yeah, there is real medical value to some chemicals in marijuana but let's all stop and be honest with each other: people smoke pot to get high, and use the medical benefits as an excuse. If they wanted the medical benefits alone, they'd get the chemicals that have this effect, not the weed.

"oh but its for my arthritis" yeah sure, grandma.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 15, 2022 01:24 PM (Ivdso)

299 When the RNCC calls me for donations I say I never will give again and the reason is Paul Ryan. And then I hang up.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at October 15, 2022 01:24 PM (+a8WH)

300 100% of people who drink water, die.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 15, 2022 01:24 PM (U2p+3)

301
A frequent argument is that it would allow people to live a considerable distance away from Los Angeles and San Francisco and commute to work from an area with much cheaper housing.

Two problems with this: most jobs aren't in downtown San Francisco or downtown Los Angeles, or anyplace near a high rail stop, and having a lot of stops defeats the purpose of having high-speed rail.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

It's a transportation subsidy for commie cocksuckers from Frisco who want to actually own a house that's 10 times larger than their closet-sized Nob Hill condo, for 1/3 of the cost.

The thing is, those people already buy houses in the San Joaquin Valley by the thousands. They just do their commutes on Monday and Friday, spending the weekend at home, and work weeks are spent in the Bay Area, living out of ratty apartments or hotels.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 15, 2022 01:25 PM (KYKwc)

302 Posted by: mea culpa at October 15, 2022 01:07 PM (lKLIl)

Related stupid leftist political sign of the day which I saw on my travels:

This isn't Alabama. Vote blue.

As if the people writing the signs have ever been to Alabama. Yeah, right. Anyway, I'm not sure if it's "The dumb hicks from Alabama" jargon or we're so superior in NJ because we have abortion all the time.

Just FTR, I have never been to Alabama and I would certainly like to go if I got a chance and I don't have any preconceived negative notions about people from Alabama.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2022 01:25 PM (vH/6k)

303 Concur. Ryan is nothing more than dog squeeze bleached white by the sun.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 15, 2022 01:23 PM (R/m4+)

I don't know. He might even be worse than ---and I never thought I'd say this---Mitt Romney.

Boy , the 2012 GOP ticket had to be the most assholey ticket in the history of Presidential elections.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2022 01:26 PM (mR6Gs)

304 These Camp LeJeune fecalites
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'Fecalites'. If that is original, I'm stealing it.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 15, 2022 01:27 PM (7+zW5)

305
The trains are now planned to run from Bakersfield to Merced

No one outside a Merle Haggard or Buck Owens song has ever wanted to travel between those destinations, and all the guys in those songs already have pickup trucks.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

On the other hand, that means you have to drive Highway 99, which is probably the single worst highway deathtrap in the US, especially in the winter when the fog rolls in.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 15, 2022 01:28 PM (KYKwc)

306 Juneau, Alaska to Adak, Alaska: 1696 air miles.

Or, if you want to limit it to (mostly) over land:
Juneau, Alaska to Barrow, Alaska: 1095 air miles.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at October 15, 2022 01:29 PM (bW8dp)

307 Always found it instructive that the GOP Presidential candidates who LOST in 2008 and 2012 hated with the heat of 1000 suns the GOP Presidential candidate who WON in 2016.

That alone is evidence that there in a Uniparty working against the citizens of the Republic

Posted by: JoeF. at October 15, 2022 01:29 PM (mR6Gs)

308 I don't have any preconceived negative notions about people from Alabama.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke
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The Left are consumed with prejudice. That is why they are immune to reason.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 15, 2022 01:30 PM (7+zW5)

309 These Camp LeJeune fecalites are the grandsons oh the cigarette lawyers. A thieves dynasty of gov-sanctioned taxpayer rape.
Posted by: Eromero at October 15, 2022 01:24 PM (/RDPd)

Yup....the money has already been set aside by their fellow pirate lawyers posing as members of congress. All the pirates have to do now is line up a bunch of old sick USMC vets and base workers and connect the dots to the "bad" water for cha-ching-ching pay day at 40% of the haul. Which is why the feeding frenzy has begun in earnest.

For The People!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 15, 2022 01:30 PM (R/m4+)

310 Tell me about it.
Posted by: Zombie Gen Wilhelm von Leeb

Nah. Field Marshall von Leeb was in charge of Army Group North, charged with sequestering Leningrad, not taking Moscow. That would've been the charge of Army Group Center, initially led by FM von Bock.

Posted by: SFGoth at October 15, 2022 01:33 PM (KAi1n)

311 169 Should we point out that there is technology far superior to trains at getting people across country? Legend speaks of these "airplanes" in hushed whispers but they do exist.
Posted by: NR Pax at October 15, 2022 12:27 PM (Z7Jj3)

Get rid of the gate gestapo (TSA) and I'm in.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 15, 2022 01:33 PM (BdMk6)

312 Fen, google My Home's In Alabama. After listening, tou've taken your first step toward Alamama citizenship.

Posted by: Eromero at October 15, 2022 01:34 PM (/RDPd)

313 "It's a transportation subsidy for commie cocksuckers from Frisco who want to actually own a house that's 10 times larger than their closet-sized Nob Hill condo, for 1/3 of the cost."

You're thinking of NYC.

Posted by: SFGoth at October 15, 2022 01:37 PM (KAi1n)

314 Mike Hammer, check with Mike Hammer's cat on the fecalites. Far as I know original.

Posted by: Eromero at October 15, 2022 01:39 PM (/RDPd)

315 Posted by: Eromero at October 15, 2022 01:34 PM (/RDPd)

Thanks, brother. I will look it up.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 15, 2022 01:39 PM (TBrF2)

316 Sick transit, California.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 15, 2022 01:40 PM (a3Q+t)

317 Mike Hammer, check with Mike Hammer's cat on the fecalites. Far as I know original.
Posted by: Eromero
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Alas, would that I could. My good old pal Toby suffered a stroke while I was at the rehab hospital. I had to arrange by phone to have him euthanized. It was a terrible moment. 19 years together, and I couldn't even be there with him, even to say goodbye.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 15, 2022 01:45 PM (7+zW5)

318 I am so sorry to hear about Toby, Mike. Geeze now I feel bad for being insensitive, especially where human/cat bonds are concerned. I feel like crying, but it would look weird since I'm in uniform. Want us to bolo a kitten for you?

Posted by: Eromero at October 15, 2022 01:49 PM (/RDPd)

319 I know things.!
Freight rail speed on my line 60 mph
Passenger rail speed 90 mph.
In most instances.

Posted by: t-dubya-d at October 15, 2022 01:50 PM (xARli)

320 We had our cat sisters, Sugar 17 years and Cinnamon 19, wife doesn't want another due to their end. I would get a dog tomorrow if I could.

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2022 01:54 PM (xhxe8)

321 Back when dinosaurs ruled the earth and before Amtrak, the rail companies manicured their track so passengers would have a smooth ride. That got cut way back when there was no need for comfort.

There is a short haul freight line in Minnesota that has some stretches that are so worn that the speed limit is 5 mph.

Posted by: Gordon Scott at October 15, 2022 01:56 PM (PlCVJ)

322 Mike Hammer,
I remember when you had ALL the crap hit you sideways. And I pray for you and hope you are well. Is there a chance of you attending a MoMe someday? I'd love to give you a hug.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 15, 2022 01:56 PM (TQc0R)

323 I couldn't even be there with him, even to say goodbye.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

I very viscerally know how you feel and I hope to get justice.

Posted by: SFGoth at October 15, 2022 01:56 PM (KAi1n)

324 Gordon Scott @ 321-
That sounds straight Ayn Rand.

Posted by: Eromero at October 15, 2022 01:58 PM (/RDPd)

325 on freight track a 1 or 2 degree curve on 60 mph track only 3/4 inch elevation required on the high rail.
On passenenger (90 mph) or dual use track the elevation on the high rail is like 3 inches.

Posted by: t-dubya-d at October 15, 2022 01:58 PM (xARli)

326 I am so sorry to hear about Toby, Mike. Geeze now I feel bad for being insensitive, especially where human/cat bonds are concerned. I feel like crying, but it would look weird since I'm in uniform. Want us to bolo a kitten for you?
Posted by: Eromero
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Don't feel badly. That was back in December, and I've mostly assimilated the loss. Not completely, but probably as much as I ever will.

It gets worse, I'm sorry to say. A month later, after I came home, I lost my little dog Sophie, who was 18. The house has been awfully empty since.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 15, 2022 02:00 PM (7+zW5)

327 Is there a chance of you attending a MoMe someday? I'd love to give you a hug.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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It's been a rough year, but, there are people around (including here) who have had it rougher than me. In the big scheme of things, I have a great deal to be grateful for.

It just kills me that I can't make it to Texas, but it just isn't possible.

But, all of that aside, how is your son...I expect that I have missed updates.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 15, 2022 02:03 PM (7+zW5)

328 You're in S.C., right, Mike? I'll get my sister to bring you a kitten if you like.

Posted by: Eromero at October 15, 2022 02:04 PM (/RDPd)

329 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 15, 2022 02:00 PM

Prayers up for you. I've always appreciated your contributions here at the HQ. I can tell that you are good people.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 15, 2022 02:07 PM (Xrfse)

330 Mike,
He's hurting. And he's not getting appropriate care. He's documenting and keeping records and seriously reconsidering reenlisting.

He's young and strong. And sometimes that makes it worse because he wants to just "power through."

Would you be able to make it to NoVa?

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 15, 2022 02:19 PM (U2p+3)

331 Airbus, Areva, TGV, Ariane etc. stupid to make fun of french engineering.

Posted by: azoo at October 15, 2022 02:20 PM (gdhl+)

332 They made 1/2 of Le Concorde, them Fwench.

Posted by: Eromero at October 15, 2022 02:22 PM (/RDPd)

333 I am making 92 US dollars an hour working from home. I never imagined that it was honest to goodness yet my closest companion is earning $16,000 a month by working on a laptop, that was truly astounding for me, she prescribed for me to attempt it simply.
Everybody must try this job now by just using this site.. WWww.Profit97.com

Posted by: www.Profit97.Com at October 15, 2022 02:23 PM (dLyiQ)

334 Nah. Field Marshall von Leeb was in charge of Army Group North, charged with sequestering Leningrad, not taking Moscow. That would've been the charge of Army Group Center, initially led by FM von Bock.
Posted by: SFGoth at October 15, 2022 01:33 PM (KAi1n)

Right you are.
That's what I get for going with the first name I ran across.

Posted by: Zombie Gen Wilhelm von Leeb at October 15, 2022 02:24 PM (anj39)

335 You're in S.C., right, Mike? I'll get my sister to bring you a kitten if you like.
Posted by: Eromero
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Thanks, but no more pets, I think, though most of my friends have been encouraging me to consider that.
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Prayers up for you. I've always appreciated your contributions here at the HQ. I can tell that you are good people.
Posted by: Notorious BFD
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Thnx. Can use all that I can get, but that's true of all of us, I think. I remember in my prayers all of those here who are having trouble.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 15, 2022 02:26 PM (7+zW5)

336 They made 1/2 of Le Concorde, them Fwench.
Posted by: Eromero at October 15, 2022 02:22 PM (/RDPd)

Their howitzers are pretty good too.

Posted by: Zombie Gen Wilhelm von Leeb at October 15, 2022 02:29 PM (anj39)

337 He's young and strong. And sometimes that makes it worse because he wants to just "power through."

Would you be able to make it to NoVa?
Posted by: nurse ratched
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Very sorry to hear that things are not going as well as they might. I think I asked about what sort facility he is in/at?

I've been *extremely* fortunate to have been cared for by the #1 rated VA hosp. I know others have plenty of complaints, but these folk have been very good to/for me. I literally owe my life to a particular ER doc, who I will never ever forget.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 15, 2022 02:31 PM (7+zW5)

338 Fen,

If you are still here, check out gdonna.com. She's in Alabama and does a blog on gardening and old time living.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at October 15, 2022 02:31 PM (uz3Px)

339 Mike,
He's at Camp Pendleton. He went to the clinic there several times only
To be ignored. So he went to the ER on the navy base. His corpsman friend said that was his next option. That was the first time anyone performed a physical examination on him.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 15, 2022 02:36 PM (U2p+3)

340 He's at Camp Pendleton. He went to the clinic there several times only
To be ignored. So he went to the ER on the navy base. His corpsman friend said that was his next option. That was the first time anyone performed a physical examination on him.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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Yeah. I have encountered that sort of thing before, and have adopted an approach (in my dotage), 'Look, I'm (insert a lot of years here) years old. I've lived in and with this body for (years), I've been through all of the normal stuff, and some abnormal stuff...I know when something is wrong, and something is wrong'.

That seems to get their attention.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 15, 2022 02:40 PM (7+zW5)

341 At least we know Sarah is doing well in the whole house she slaves at.

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2022 02:43 PM (xhxe8)

342 Mike,
I offered to fly down and go "Momma Bear."

He politely declined.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 15, 2022 02:44 PM (U2p+3)

343 Fresno Bee cancelled your link to the train debacle.

Posted by: torabora at October 15, 2022 02:45 PM (Y274z)

344 https://dailytimewaster.blogspot.com/Mary Ann is pissed

https://tinyurl.com/mryhapsh

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2022 02:48 PM (xhxe8)

345 Fresno Bee cancelled your link to the train debacle.
Posted by: torabora
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You can still find it at archive.org. Brave browser automatically gave me the option to search for it there and took me to it.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 15, 2022 02:54 PM (ju2Fy)

346 “Those of you who think the vaccine kills people can use me as a test. If I die, you were right. If I don’t die, and have no ill effects, you were wrong, and should admit it (at least to yourselves). Better yet, you should admit that you were misled, and tell the world who misled you, so other people can benefit by avoiding those fearmongers.” — Bodybuilding Icon and Author Doug Brignole (1960-2022)

Posted by: SMOD at October 15, 2022 02:55 PM (txTza)

347 nurse- when I was in Basic don't remember why but my for no other term than church godparents came into the base to see me for really a few minutes. No idea how they pulled the strings to get there but personally was embarrassed for the little interview.

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2022 03:00 PM (xhxe8)

348 SMOD it's not killing everyone, maybe a percent of a percent, possibly a few percent could have long term bad health effects. But all that is squashed so hard by the take it or die only makes me not want to get it even more.

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2022 03:03 PM (xhxe8)

349 RIP, Doug. Please understand that it was for the greater good.

Posted by: Fauci's Beagles at October 15, 2022 03:03 PM (Xrfse)

350 Skip,
I was mostly kidding. I'd not interfere unless, A) he asked me to, or 2) it was life or death.

My boys still hugged me in front of their friends, all the way through school. I told them, "anyone who makes fun of you for hugging your mom needs a hug themselves."

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 15, 2022 03:06 PM (U2p+3)

351 We were all in this together. Stay safe and don't take any wooden nickels. Peace out.

Posted by: Fauci's Beagles at October 15, 2022 03:13 PM (Xrfse)

352 Pets are nood so ends this basement dwelling thread

Posted by: Skip at October 15, 2022 03:39 PM (xhxe8)

353 Camp Lejuene

Over simplified, but it sounds as if all you need are a record of having been there more than 30 days during the specified period. DD-214 should show if you (or your spouse/parent) were assigned there, and you have one of the specified conditions. Might be harder if you were only TDY there, or a contractor or civilian employee. Dependents may have to prove they occupied government quarters, or spent significant time on base.

And they want 40 per cent? It sounds like a purely administrative process, rather than a trial. Is there some trick that prevents a VSO from assisting?

Posted by: Fox2! at October 15, 2022 03:49 PM (qyH+l)

354 Holy Cow!!!

This is insane. Things are about to get nuts.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Rasmussen_Poll/status/157

8483416286101504

(remove extra space)

Proof of China's interference in our elections!!!

Via Insty

Posted by: naturalfake at October 15, 2022 03:53 PM (KLPy8)

355 Oops!

Proof of China's inference in our elections with the connivance of the Democrats and gov't agencies

Posted by: naturalfake at October 15, 2022 03:57 PM (KLPy8)

356 >>I find it interesting that the French firm pulled out in 2011 and I only first saw it in the media a week ago.
I wonder if Californians know about this yet?
Posted by: Diogenes

They aren't use to anyone pulling out. Good and hard is all they know.

Posted by: Aviator at October 15, 2022 06:04 PM (HQ9Sl)

357 Checkopedia

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 15, 2022 07:23 PM (lEfwZ)

358 There is a lot of misconceptions about the intended scope of the project and goals of the California bullet train.

It was never intended for general intercity transportation or mass transportation.

It was intended to run the short buses from SoCal to Sacramento without having to interact with anyone in between.

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