Margot Cleveland: Emails In Case of Pro-Life Activist Targeted by FBI Stasi Raid Are Chilling

It couldn't get worse. Except it did.

Heffron, the lawyer for the pro-life activist whose home was swarmed by a Threat Level Omega force of SWAT-outfitted agents, had previously written to the prosecutor, Eve, that he would accept a summons for arrest.

Eve ignored that email and sent the stormtroopers.

Why accept a peaceable arrest when you can storm a home filled with children while brandishing overkill levels of firepower? The FBI has one playbook, and that playbook is Branch Davidian.*


First, Heffron's email to Eve, in which he noted he would "accept a summons on my client's behalf, rather put Mr. Houck and his family through needless disruption," was dated June 9, 2022, but Eve's sole response to that email came on Sept. 23, 2022 -- when Eve wrote Heffron to inform him that "this morning, [Houck] was taken into custody by FBI agents and is being transported to the Philadelphia FBI office for processing." So the first response Houck's attorney received from the U.S. attorney's office, following two phone calls and an email, came more than three months later to advise him that his client had already been arrested.

Professor Cleveland points out that this prosecutor, Eve, also handled some of the January 6 cases, and wonders if Eve might have been responsible for the Soviet police state tactics there as well.

She points out that this case is very weak: A similar case was dismissed by another federal judge.

In that case, the court held that a FACE Act claim could not succeed because there was no evidence that force was used "because" the escort was providing so-called reproductive health services. Instead, the force resulted from a "mutual argument" between the individuals. Stressing these legal principles, Heffron concluded his letter by suggesting that, particularly under the circumstances of the case, it "should not go forward."

In other words: Some federal laws criminalize an assault on a federal employee in the performance of his federal duties. But they don't criminalize any attack on a federal employee. A wife who murders her mailman husband is not subject to charges under laws against killing a federal officer in the course of his duties. She didn't kill him for that reason, to impede his duties. She just knocked off her husband.

Similarly, even if you grant the constitutionality of this law, which... I have doubts, it still only criminalizes pushing or hitting one of these escorts when he's actually in the process of doing the job of "escorting" abortion-seeking women to the clinic. It doesn't generally make anyone who gets into a fight with them subject to charges under federal law. You wouldn't be charged under F.A.C.E. if you got into a fight with one of these "escorts" over a dispute about a pool game. They're not surrounded permanently by a halo of federal protection, only when doing the specific thing the federal law (presumes, dubiously) to protect.

In this case, it seems to be the case that there was a mutual argument and Houck warned this guy to get out of his son's face. That was the cause of the pushing, not the "escorting." So this law just doesn't apply.

So this case is already very weak.

And they send in a battalion of black-clad M-16-toting SWAT agents to take down a pastor for pushing a guy when his seven young children are home to arrest him for this piece of shit charge that will probably be dismissed before it goes to trial?

Hey, remember when Andrew McCarthy and the rest of the Usual Suspects lined up as character witnesses behind Merrick Garland, vouching for his character and probity as beyond reproach? And castigating anyone who doubted him as a mere partisan ruffian and low-minded thug?

Professor Cleveland then reports the facts of the original police complaint, filed by the victim himself, comparing that to the New and Improved "facts" claimed by the DOJ. The original police complaint did not say that the "victim" was escorting anyone to an abortion center, and was only "waiting for clients," which disqualifies this case from a F.A.C.E. charge. The New and Improved DOJ "facts" now claim he already had two clients with him and was in the process of escorting them to the clinic -- strange he didn't remember that at the time of the incident. Maybe he was pushed so hard his brain stopped working for a while.

The original police report also says that this incident took place on a corner away from the abortion clinic. The DOJ complaint helpfully re-locates the incident to be "in front of" the abortion clinic.

Given the reputation the DOJ has earned as straight-arrow square-jawed Priests of Truth and Justice, you know which report I put my full faith and credit in.

The "victim" also didn't even show up for a required hearing iso n the state case you know this was a really serious "crime" in his mind. The case was rightly dismissed, so the DOJ swooped in to resurrect it.

Maybe they're lying about where the pushing took place to move it closer to the abortion clinic so that they can argue that even if he wasn't exactly escorting clients yet, hey, he was pretty close to the clinic, so... close enough for horse-shoes and hand-grenades, judge!

Read the whole thing.

Margot concludes that whatever happens, Biden and Merrick Garland -- who, remember, was vouched for by various members of Conservative, Inc. and the Company Men Faction of the GOP Establishment -- have gotten what they intended: they have intimidated their political opponents.

Because we now understand that we are being targeted by the State Secret Police.

Why do they want us to understand this?

You know why.

You know why they knock in the night.


* The FBI can lie and say "We sent in 40 agents in assault armor and full tactical weapons kit with 20 armored vehicles because we were afraid he would shoot at us if we didn't present overwhelming force."

This is a lie.

How do I know? Because his lawyer offered to accept a summons and turn his his client for a peaceable arrest and they refused this (by completely blowing the offer off).

If they were afraid of a violent confrontation, they would have accepted that option, wouldn't they have?

Was the FBI also afraid that Roger Stone would go Rambo on them?

Or did they just want the Hero Video on CNN?

The FBI must be defunded. There is no longer any question. There is no longer any argument.

I don't care about what "threats" it protects us against. They are a larger threat to the citizens of the United States than any "threat" they supposedly protect against.

I suppose this might have been the DOJ's call. But in that case, the FBI "followed orders."

And we all know about the Nuremberg Trials, don't we?

Posted by: Ace at 04:39 PM




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1 sponge

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022 03:40 PM (LvTSG)

2 Don't forget to mock these asshats whenever their raids go wrong and they get lit the fuck up. It does happen from time to time.

Posted by: somedood at October 04, 2022 03:41 PM (HIzXx)

3 Just plain evil.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 04, 2022 03:41 PM (JMAcK)

4 “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” - The Gulag Archipelago

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 04, 2022 03:42 PM (JMAcK)

5 Margot Cleveland is Professor Cleveland? I didn't know that.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 04, 2022 03:43 PM (eGTCV)

6 Ace, one correction. This guy is not a pastor, or a preacher in the colloquial sense. He is a pro-life activist, but a lay Catholic. I've seen this error repeated on many websites and forums, but wanted to let you know.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at October 04, 2022 03:43 PM (a/dOO)

7 "the preacher whose home was swarmed by a Branch Davidian force of SWAT-outfitted agents,"

Did he successfully repel that attack like the BD's did in Raid 1? Maybe you're thinking of Raid 2: ATF's Revenge.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 03:43 PM (24fqN)

8 Another 3 letter Fed agency that needs to be shutdown.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 04, 2022 03:44 PM (BIKbQ)

9 Stasi gotta stasi.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 04, 2022 03:45 PM (yHsuS)

10 Isn't there some new stupid FBI t.v. show?

Can't wait for the "snatched from the headlines" version of this to tell the REAL story.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at October 04, 2022 03:45 PM (w9Wax)

11 And yes, things like this have converted me to your position. If I am ever chosen for a jury (which is unlikely, given my occupation), I will never vote to convict someone if the evidence at all involved the Eff Bee Eye.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at October 04, 2022 03:45 PM (a/dOO)

12 Notified the insurance debaters.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 04, 2022 03:45 PM (BIKbQ)

13 Under No. 20 I hope. Now to read content

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 04, 2022 03:46 PM (u4CEu)

14 This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan MFers at October 04, 2022 03:46 PM (HM0us)

15 >>>Ace, one correction. This guy is not a pastor, or a preacher in the colloquial sense. He is a pro-life activist, but a lay Catholic. I've seen this error repeated on many websites and forums, but wanted to let you know.

ah okay

Posted by: ace at October 04, 2022 03:46 PM (B3oWe)

16 The FBI is nothing more than the armed wing of the democrat party.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 04, 2022 03:46 PM (lTGtQ)

17 Maybe he was pushed so hard his brain stopped working for a while.
Posted by: Ace


He was pushed so hard he traveled through time, to a point when he did have clients with him!

Clearly you must charge someone if he pushes you hard enough to violate causality.

Posted by: mikeski at October 04, 2022 03:46 PM (R6gCX)

18 What are the odds that they suspend many of the forthcoming elections? To save our democracy.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 04, 2022 03:47 PM (TgBWG)

19 Frankly, if my home is surrounded by FBI goons, I'm calling the local police with a report of armed men trying to break into my home and hope they respond with their own SWAT team. I dream of it ending up like that ATF asshoe who got tased by the local PD a few months back.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at October 04, 2022 03:47 PM (a/dOO)

20 Was there just one 'pushing incident,' or were there two? Anybody got video?

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 03:47 PM (24fqN)

21 and yet, as I recall, when trump had federal marshals arresting people trying to destroy the federal courthouse in portland in late summer 2020, pelosi compared the feds to storm troopers.

Posted by: gnats local 678 at October 04, 2022 03:48 PM (kFrCu)

22 Night raids are executed by fags.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 04, 2022 03:48 PM (z+OQR)

23 More of our Tax Dollars at work.

Posted by: ... at October 04, 2022 03:48 PM (RZ+ob)

24 okay, lol, it took until #4 for someone to produce that quote from Solzhenitsyn!

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 04, 2022 03:48 PM (8oyo2)

25 Hey, they're just fighting right-wing fascism any way they can. It's for democracy!

Posted by: Peaches at October 04, 2022 03:48 PM (14URa)

26 new stupid FBI t.v. show?

Is that fbi rookie or some shit? Promos I seen feature vehicle assault but that be totes ok bcuz obese vagina of color.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at October 04, 2022 03:48 PM (mnoTq)

27 Should Trump or DeSantis win in '24, I hope they go after everyone responsible for these Stasi tactics, from Biden on down.

Yes, I know the reasons why one administration doesn't try to prosecute its predecessor, and they're good reasons, but all of that went out the window with Mar-a-Lago. Biden and all the other thugs must be PUNISHED for this brutality.

Posted by: Dr. T at October 04, 2022 03:48 PM (bhRsz)

28 Side note. A lady I'm dating took me to her Catholic church Sunday. They were all about justice this, justice that. Pushing the LGBT+ group. Inclusiveness to the point of excluding conservatives. It was a left wing shit show of Marxist liberation theology.

Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan MFers at October 04, 2022 03:49 PM (HM0us)

29 And the FIB still refuse to adopt and wear bodycams, or videorecord interviews/interrogations.

They know they lie, we know they lie, and they know we know they lie.

So they blow us off. Even podunk country departments wear bodycams these days, and have dashcams.

But not the uberprofessional FBI.

Posted by: GnuBreed at October 04, 2022 03:49 PM (JOtiF)

30 Why is FACE even still standing ?
Dobbs should have nullified it as well.

Posted by: SMOD at October 04, 2022 03:49 PM (RHGPo)

31 I thought the new "law" stated that you couldn't block someone from entering the death clinic ? Was the guy pushed trying to do that ?

Posted by: It's me donna at October 04, 2022 03:49 PM (bs+z0)

32 Side to the side note. The church was filled with mostly women

Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan MFers at October 04, 2022 03:49 PM (HM0us)

33 thanks for the correction, VirginiaSoCon.

Posted by: ace at October 04, 2022 03:50 PM (B3oWe)

34 The left are all fascists and i fuckin hate them with the heat of a thousand suns and all their dead relatives also. Fuck em and may the fate of Herod befall them

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 04, 2022 03:50 PM (dO/0d)

35 At first quick read it seems to me it was for a headline show, my thoughts on all these are to scare conservatives and keep them afraid of coming out.

Posted by: Skip's phone at October 04, 2022 03:50 PM (xhxe8)

36 How? How is it *always* worse than it initially appears?

They've mixed art and profession together. Profartion.

Posted by: Brando at October 04, 2022 03:50 PM (cSPCZ)

37 Kind of reminds me of the it's just a bunny rabbit scene in Monty Python and the Holly Graip.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 04, 2022 03:50 PM (eGTCV)

38 "6 Ace, one correction. This guy is not a pastor, or a preacher in the colloquial sense. He is a pro-life activist, but a lay Catholic. I've seen this error repeated on many websites and forums, but wanted to let you know.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at October 04, 2022 03:43 PM (a/dOO)"

oh, well, hell yeah, that makes a huge difference, everybody just forget all about it, nothing to see here ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 04, 2022 03:50 PM (8oyo2)

39 28 Lutherans are right there with them.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 03:50 PM (24fqN)

40 Any idea how many other eff bee eye arrests, without the SWAT bullshit, and based on equally sketchy charges are made that don't make the headlines?

I'll bet it's significant.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 04, 2022 03:51 PM (BFigT)

41 Prosecutor Eve. Is that her name, or is it just Eve? I kind of like "Prosecutor Eve", it's appropriate for the Mad Max times our 'leaders' seem hell-bent on heading towards.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 04, 2022 03:51 PM (fs1hN)

42 You know why.

You know why they knock in the night.



Because they'll get smoked in the daylight.
Koresh fucked up when he called a stand down.

Don't want none, don't start none.

Posted by: rickb223 Cruel ace is the best ace at October 04, 2022 03:51 PM (AXL3t)

43 Is that fbi rookie or some shit? Promos I seen feature vehicle assault but that be totes ok bcuz obese vagina of color.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at October 04, 2022 03:48 PM (mnoTq)


Yeah, I saw an ad for that the other day. Sassy black female FBI rookie agent walks in the interrogation room and tells the suspect, "I'm Special Agent Shaquiyah Lynette Johnson (or something like that), and the fact that I'm in here should scare the hell out of you!"

Click.

Posted by: Dr. T at October 04, 2022 03:51 PM (bhRsz)

44 Ace, one correction. This guy is not a pastor, or a preacher in the colloquial

True.. He is much more conservative

Posted by: It's me donna at October 04, 2022 03:51 PM (bs+z0)

45 The only knock I want to hear at night is when one of my wimmens is up for a booty call.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 04, 2022 03:51 PM (iLmHM)

46 Side note. A lady I'm dating took me to her Catholic church Sunday. They were all about justice this, justice that. Pushing the LGBT+ group. Inclusiveness to the point of excluding conservatives. It was a left wing shit show of Marxist liberation theology.
Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan MFers at October 04, 2022 03:49 PM (HM0us)


It really depends on the parish. Mine has laminated cards with the prayers in Latin, and the senior priest sounds like a right-wing Woody Allen.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at October 04, 2022 03:51 PM (wmDcS)

47 They should arrest Jill for those shoes.

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2022 03:52 PM (v0R5T)

48 I doubt a single one of the fascists involved is second guessing his part in the raid.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 04, 2022 03:52 PM (eGTCV)

49 Side to the side note. The church was filled with mostly women
Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan MFers at October 04, 2022 03:49 PM

Seems that divine injunction against women in leadership/teaching positions in the Church might have some reasons for it, no?

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 04, 2022 03:52 PM (JMAcK)

50 Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan MFers at October 04, 2022 03:49 PM (HM0us)

See if you can find a traditional Latin Mass in your area. They tend to be less "Woke".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 03:52 PM (vH/6k)

51 Side note. A lady I'm dating took me to her Catholic church Sunday. They were all about justice this, justice that. Pushing the LGBT+ group. Inclusiveness to the point of excluding conservatives. It was a left wing shit show of Marxist liberation theology.
Posted by: Welcome to

Whenever we have moved to a new area (to many times!) we have to attend the RC parishes in the area to find one that isn't a heretic hellhole.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 04, 2022 03:52 PM (BIKbQ)

52 What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family?

We didn't love freedom enough.

Posted by: Alexander Solzhenitsyn at October 04, 2022 03:52 PM (GG4JB)

53 28 Side note. A lady I'm dating took me to her Catholic church Sunday. They were all about justice this, justice that. Pushing the LGBT+ group. Inclusiveness to the point of excluding conservatives. It was a left wing shit show of Marxist liberation theology.
Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan MFers at October 04, 2022 03:49 PM (HM0us)

This doesn't sound good. Maybe an exit strategy is needed if this woman buys into that nonsense wholesale.

Posted by: Thrawn at October 04, 2022 03:52 PM (Rl7KJ)

54 Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 04, 2022 03:52 PM (JMAcK)

Good thing all the men in church leadership positions are straight arrow conservatives.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 03:53 PM (vH/6k)

55
A lady I'm dating took me to her Catholic church Sunday. They were all about justice this, justice that. Pushing the LGBT+ group. Inclusiveness to the point of excluding conservatives. It was a left wing shit show of Marxist liberation theology.
Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan MFers at October 04, 2022 03:49 PM (HM0us)

____________

Remember, the Traditional Latin Mass is the greatest threat there is to the unity of the Church.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2022 03:54 PM (1Nxff)

56 How has Super Christian David French defended the actions of the Gestapo?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 04, 2022 03:54 PM (eGTCV)

57 Side to the side note.
Posted by: Welcome

Might want to reconsider dating the woman...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 04, 2022 03:54 PM (BIKbQ)

58 28 Side note. A lady I'm dating took me to her Catholic church Sunday. They were all about justice this, justice that. Pushing the LGBT+ group. Inclusiveness to the point of excluding conservatives. It was a left wing shit show of Marxist liberation theology.
Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan MFers

Yeah we had to switch here in Georgia because of that. Went from a far lefty white man who accused all the other whites of being racist to an amazing church that actually professes the word of God- not the left...

Posted by: BacktoGA at October 04, 2022 03:54 PM (MPYWI)

59 28 Side note. A lady I'm dating took me to her Catholic church Sunday. They were all about justice this, justice that. Pushing the LGBT+ group. Inclusiveness to the point of excluding conservatives. It was a left wing shit show of Marxist liberation theology.
Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan MFers at October 04, 2022 03:49 PM (HM0us)


I hope you know where the lady herself stands on this BS.

Posted by: Dr. T at October 04, 2022 03:54 PM (bhRsz)

60 Hi retardo! Assuming that's true (and I dunno and I don't care since I don't live in GA anymore), shouldn't that make you more amenable to him?

Posted by: Thrawn at October 04, 2022 03:54 PM (Rl7KJ)

61 6 Ace, one correction. This guy is not a pastor, or a preacher in the colloquial sense. He is a pro-life activist, but a lay Catholic. I've seen this error repeated on many websites and forums, but wanted to let you know.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at October 04, 2022 03:43 PM (a/dOO)]
______
In 1922, when writing of his first visit here, GKC was surprised to hear even priest called "pastors". But he concluded it was legit; it was merely England's idiom that didn't say that. (He was similarly surprised to hear "a regular guy" used as a compliment.)

But as you say, it doesn't work for a Catholic layman.

Posted by: Eeyore at October 04, 2022 03:54 PM (TgBWG)

62 27 I would go further. They need to be EXECUTED.

Posted by: Ken at October 04, 2022 03:55 PM (RXE8a)

63 The objective wasn't to take him into custody, it was a warning to the rest of us.

Posted by: CaliGirl at October 04, 2022 03:55 PM (TOXd3)

64 Good thing all the men in church leadership positions are straight arrow conservatives.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 03:53 PM

As your sarcasm indicates, that's most definitely not the case.

However, there is a strong correlation between women "pastors" and other heresies.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 04, 2022 03:55 PM (JMAcK)

65 See if you can find a traditional Latin Mass in your area. They tend to be less "Woke".
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 03:52 PM (vH/6k)

Or look to see which ones talk about a homeschool group in the parish or area in the bulletin. There is significant overlap between Latin Masses and homeschooling, but it's not 1:1.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at October 04, 2022 03:56 PM (a/dOO)

66 i added some at the end, it's good

Posted by: ace at October 04, 2022 03:56 PM (B3oWe)

67 28 Side note. A lady I'm dating took me to her Catholic church Sunday. They were all about justice this, justice that. Pushing the LGBT+ group. Inclusiveness to the point of excluding conservatives. It was a left wing shit show of Marxist liberation theology.
Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan MFers at October 04, 2022 03:49 PM (HM0us)

My boy's scout troop meets in a Methodist church. The building is plastered is "no person is illegal", "be more gay, be more trans, be more you" posters. The parishioners are all blue-blooded, white-to-the-point-of-translucency, never had a callus types.

These people are going to be in for a rude awakening when it all blows up in their faces.

Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at October 04, 2022 03:56 PM (pkTq0)

68 As far as Hershel Walker thing goes:
1. The left lies about everything.
2. It's possible to be pro-abortion and then later in life become pro-life. You know, like Obama did on fag marriage.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 03:57 PM (UuD2k)

69 Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 04, 2022 03:55 PM (JMAcK)

I agree with you. All the woman pastors I know secretly worship Hecate and don't believe that Jesus was bodily resurrected from the dead.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 03:57 PM (vH/6k)

70
Has his bishop said anything? Likely not. The USCCB is a bunch of mozzetta-wearing mid-level managers.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2022 03:57 PM (1Nxff)

71 I don't care about what "threats" it protects us against.

I still remember when the ham n' eggers helped the jihadi trying to assassinate Pam Gellar.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2022 03:57 PM (ESjRY)

72 2. It's possible to be pro-abortion and then later in life become pro-life. You know, like Obama did on fag marriage.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 03:57 PM

That's a poor analogy...

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 04, 2022 03:57 PM (JMAcK)

73 you notice this trend, what with the GOP being a non viable...more like anti-viable...political entity:

every democrat constituency has federally mandated protections and federal compliances built in.

no one in the GOP ever bothered to get that for their own side.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 04, 2022 03:58 PM (OuH7W)

74 I agree with you. All the woman pastors I know secretly worship Hecate and don't believe that Jesus was bodily resurrected from the dead.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 03:57 PM (vH/6k)

The Mexican beer?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 03:58 PM (UuD2k)

75 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 03:57 PM (vH/6k)

You are being trolled. If you feed it, it will come back for more.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at October 04, 2022 03:58 PM (1DgE4)

76 Branch Davidian?

More like what Janet Reno put Elian Gonzalez's American family through.

No warning and getting swarmed by heavily armed agents of the Federal government.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 04, 2022 03:59 PM (wMug7)

77 the filing attorney was Anita Eve

she's also persecuted at least 40 Jan 6 attendees

so she's probably a peach

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2022 03:59 PM (w0NJk)

78 defund the FBI?

how about suing these people like Fitzfong? Or do 1983 lawsuits only work in one direction?

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 04, 2022 03:59 PM (OuH7W)

79 Love's, the baby killing supporter, case was dropped even because he failed to show up for court. In other words, he was making it all up or the medical treatment was a My Little Pony band-aid.

Posted by: WiNO at October 04, 2022 03:59 PM (EpDzw)

80 Crazily enough, of all the Catholic diocese I've been in, the Arlington diocese of VA is the most conservative Catholic/non-woke. No idea how that happens (b/c I've been in Churches long-termish in OH, TX, AL, and NJ - okay, it's easy to beat NJ)...I attribute it to both the Scalia effect and the homeschool effect around here (we have had a ton of recently frocked priests from the homeschooling community - I think 4 of the last 5 homeschooled at some point)...

Posted by: Nova local at October 04, 2022 03:59 PM (exHjb)

81 My boy's scout troop meets in a Methodist church. The building is plastered is "no person is illegal", "be more gay, be more trans, be more you" posters. The parishioners are all blue-blooded, white-to-the-point-of-translucency, never had a callus types.

These people are going to be in for a rude awakening when it all blows up in their faces.
Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at October 04, 2022 03:56 PM (pkTq0)


Our Methodist church had a flyer up this summer for attending a conference like that. The speakers were going to include a gay drag queen, because it's the UMC. However, I put a bug in my aunt's ear and she took it down a couple days later, thank the Lord.

Posted by: Dr. T at October 04, 2022 04:00 PM (bhRsz)

82 69 That's the sickest burn Fen has ever written, I think.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 04:00 PM (24fqN)

83 Mozzetta? Sounds like something you’d put on a pizza.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2022 04:00 PM (dS9wL)

84 And we all know about the Nuremberg Trials, don't we?
-------

Actually I don't think we "all" know much of anything anymore.

Posted by: ... at October 04, 2022 04:00 PM (BypUT)

85 Hecate. Headache in a can.

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2022 04:00 PM (v0R5T)

86 The F.I.B. also lied that they didn't literally send the area's literal SWAT Team -- it was just regular agents exactly armed as a SWAT Team.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 04, 2022 04:00 PM (yikp0)

87
the filing attorney was Anita Eve

________

Is Eve her actual surname or did she adopt it for feminist reasons?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2022 04:00 PM (1Nxff)

88 I can't fault the democrats on this. This is how they think and act.

What I can fault is any republican who doesn't take the full measure of revenge and pay back when we take power again. We need to not only prosecute every democrat who came within 50 yards of any of this, but intensely prosecute their families too, with a priority on bankrupting them and perfecting felony convictions that ruin the rest of their lives.

This is the only way they will learn.

Posted by: jwest at October 04, 2022 04:00 PM (/BlEx)

89

...what?

Posted by: kalel666 at October 04, 2022 04:01 PM (Q3FAd)

90 77 the filing attorney was Anita Eve

she's also persecuted at least 40 Jan 6 attendees

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well, she's a gal attorney, so she might not be too bright but she does know that the FBI swat raid is the punishment. Or the Mehta, subhuman level intelligence DC judge authorizing indefinite confinement pre-trial while the DOJ, you know, simply refuses to release evidence to the defense.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 04, 2022 04:01 PM (OuH7W)

91 It's possible to be pro-abortion and then later in life become pro-life. You know, like Obama did on fag marriage.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 03:57 PM

That's a poor analogy...
Posted by: Formerly Virginian


True. Because Obola's was purely political and not a deeply held belief.

Posted by: rickb223 Cruel ace is the best ace at October 04, 2022 04:01 PM (AXL3t)

92 Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at October 04, 2022 03:56 PM (pkTq0)

The Methodist Church has had a split.There is the Global Methodist Church which is more conservative and the UMC in which the hierarchy-at least in largely blue areas- and many of the members are quite woke, Even in the UMC there are people who fly under the radar, ignore what their liberal hierarchy says, preach Jesus died, resurrected and coming again, and never had nor will have rainbow flag. What you attended was obviously a very liberal UMC.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 04:01 PM (vH/6k)

93 28 Lutherans are right there with them.
Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 03:50 PM (24fqN)

The LCMS and WELS would like to have a talk with you.

Posted by: WiNO at October 04, 2022 04:02 PM (EpDzw)

94 Defund the entire FBI. I don't know what the rules are on constructive firing at the federal govt level, but if these c**ts can't be removed, they can all take jobs as sorters for USPS.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at October 04, 2022 04:02 PM (g1EEm)

95 Bruce Love is the asshat in question btw, who was screaming at a ten year old and got his feelings hurt when Dad stepped in.

and his initial filing - which exonerates Mr Houck based on FACE anyway - was utter BS too. the DOJ just made up whatever they needed to to justify scaring the Houck family.

for standing up to one their thugs, Bruce Love.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2022 04:02 PM (w0NJk)

96 We need to not only prosecute every democrat who came within 50 yards of any of this, but intensely prosecute their families too, with a priority on bankrupting them and perfecting felony convictions that ruin the rest of their lives.

^^I'm in! And "no standing" to any counter lawfare they try.

Posted by: Iris at October 04, 2022 04:02 PM (NaH5I)

97 So, the Wisconsin John Doe tactics have gone Federal.

why?

because the GOP is worthless. They fought harder against trump than against or for anything their constituents wanted

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 04, 2022 04:02 PM (OuH7W)

98 the filing attorney was Anita Eve

________

Is Eve her actual surname or did she adopt it for feminist reasons?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


Changed her name from Anita Mann to Amanda Hugginkiss.

Posted by: rickb223 Cruel ace is the best ace at October 04, 2022 04:02 PM (AXL3t)

99 Ace

The guy who started the fracas with Houck tried to sue him and his case got tossed out.

That is how absurdly weak this 'criminal' act is.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 04, 2022 04:03 PM (wMug7)

100 Yes. I'm trying to gather her beliefs. She seems a bit muddled between personally conservative and looking her institutions liberal.

Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan MFers at October 04, 2022 04:03 PM (HM0us)

101 they are no longer pretending. It's out and out intimidation without the cover story.

Posted by: IanDeal at October 04, 2022 04:03 PM (MGjjz)

102 As far as Hershel Walker thing goes:
1. The left lies about everything.
2. It's possible to be pro-abortion and then later in life become pro-life. You know, like Obama did on fag marriage.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 03:57 PM (UuD2k)


Everybody knows that the right only wants to elect the next pope -- well not Francis, but you know what I mean.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 04, 2022 04:03 PM (AiZBA)

103 On balance, through personal legal scholarship and fair-minded impartial thought, I believe the FBI that this man was a threat and needed to be dealt with using the full force and power of a weaponized police state.

Posted by: David French at October 04, 2022 04:03 PM (MRZYM)

104 the filing attorney was Anita Eve

She's got a great body and a pish accent. Oh I'm sorry I was thinking about Anne Eve.
Excuse me.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 04, 2022 04:03 PM (eGTCV)

105
That's a poor analogy...
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at October 04, 2022 03:57 PM (JMAcK)

Well, I not wasting the good ones on raimondo.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 04:04 PM (UuD2k)

106 MailOnline:

Russia's frontline in Ukraine 'collapses' as Kyiv hammers Putin's forces into humiliating retreat: Zelensky's troops sweep '10 miles in four hours' and liberate dozens of occupied towns - as NATO 'warns Kremlin will test NUKES on the border to save face'

... I thought we had a Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty (CTBT) that forbade above ground and below ground testing of nuclear devices. Will Russia become a nuclear outlaw ?

Posted by: SMOD at October 04, 2022 04:04 PM (RHGPo)

107 Bruce Love sounds like a good name for an actor in Bros.

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2022 04:04 PM (v0R5T)

108 My boy's scout troop meets in a Methodist church. T
Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at October 04, 2022 03:56 PM (pkTq0)

You might want to work at getting your troop to meet elsewhere.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 04, 2022 04:04 PM (BIKbQ)

109 103 On balance, through personal legal scholarship and fair-minded impartial thought, I believe the FBI that this man was a threat and needed to be dealt with using the full force and power of a weaponized police state.
Posted by: David French at October 04, 2022 04:03 PM (MRZYM)

===========

"And the FBI should have summarily executed his children because they didn't think that drag queens in the library was a blessing of liberty."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022 04:04 PM (LvTSG)

110 well, she's a gal attorney, so she might not be too bright but she does know that the FBI swat raid is the punishment. Or the Mehta, subhuman level intelligence DC judge authorizing indefinite confinement pre-trial while the DOJ, you know, simply refuses to release evidence to the defense.
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 04, 2022 04:01 PM (OuH7W)

It would be nice if SCOTUS would do its job of oversight and lay down the law. How about they change jurisdiction for all of the cases and release everyone on their own recognizance.

Posted by: WiNO at October 04, 2022 04:04 PM (EpDzw)

111 When fascism comes to America it will come cleverly disguised as overt fascism.

Posted by: Zek at October 04, 2022 04:05 PM (fsV7e)

112 Houck's attorney spent three months trying to contact Eve about surrendering on his client's behalf - calls, emails - no response. she wanted to intimidate a young family. again, because they angered a Leftist thug named Bruce Love.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2022 04:05 PM (w0NJk)

113 again, what are you going to do?

Vote GOP?

lolz. they hate you too.

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 04, 2022 04:05 PM (OuH7W)

114 Does anyone know if FIBbies are required to wear body cameras?

Aw, hell, I denounce myself for that stupid question. Even if so, If all of the camera batteries will fail simultanously when the first vehicle door opens upon arrival at the insurrectionist's home. Or a trainee will accidentally erase the memory cards in all the cameras.

Posted by: Gref at October 04, 2022 04:05 PM (AMIL/)

115 111 When fascism comes to America it will come cleverly disguised as overt fascism.
Posted by: Zek at October 04, 2022 04:05 PM (fsV7e)

Democrats need a short, 4 year course on what real fascism is. I would gladly lead the educational effort.

Posted by: jwest at October 04, 2022 04:07 PM (/BlEx)

116 We have to pull stuff like thus, folks. Fire up the base. Election month is starting.

Posted by: DNC at October 04, 2022 04:07 PM (sbGbc)

117 The reviewing Court should, sua sponte, refer the matter for criminal prosecution of all LE involved.

Posted by: Zek at October 04, 2022 04:07 PM (fsV7e)

118 >>If you're smeared across two states, where do they bury the survivors?

If a meteor hits that smears people across two zip codes, this is going to be a major disaster of unprecedented level, Posted by: Stephen Price Blair


Don't think that a new thread is going to save you.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 04, 2022 04:07 PM (IyrhE)

119 Bruce Love

Sounds like a character in Bros

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 04, 2022 04:07 PM (wMug7)

120 Has Senile Joe told the story about how he was Anne Frank's best friend?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 04, 2022 04:07 PM (eGTCV)

121 Does anyone know if FIBbies are required to wear body cameras?

Aw, hell, I denounce myself for that stupid question. Even if so, If all of the camera batteries will fail simultanously when the first vehicle door opens upon arrival at the insurrectionist's home. Or a trainee will accidentally erase the memory cards in all the cameras.
Posted by: Gref at October 04, 2022 04:05 PM (AMIL/)

They don't even record interviews which was a thing done by the police in the 50's.

Posted by: WiNO at October 04, 2022 04:08 PM (EpDzw)

122 Crazily enough, of all the Catholic diocese I've been in, the Arlington diocese of VA is the most conservative Catholic/non-woke. No idea how that happens (b/c I've been in Churches long-termish in OH, TX, AL, and NJ - okay, it's easy to beat NJ)...I attribute it to both the Scalia effect and the homeschool effect around here (we have had a ton of recently frocked priests from the homeschooling community - I think 4 of the last 5 homeschooled at some point)...
Posted by: Nova local at October 04, 2022 03:59 PM (exHjb)

Yeah, but the POS Bishop for this diocese has basically banned the Latin Mass on order of the commie marxist fake pope (haven't had a real Pope since 195. Wrote a letter asking why? Have yet to receive a response (no surprise). Then they want me to pony up for Catholic Charities....yeah no.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at October 04, 2022 04:08 PM (N8C0u)

123 well, she's a gal attorney, so she might not be too bright

What does her gender have to do with not being bright. There are obviously bright women attorneys. Often they work for organizations defending conservative causes.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 04:08 PM (vH/6k)

124 "You are being trolled. If you feed it, it will come back for more."

Or you could just wait for it to be immolated by a giant ball of fire.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 04, 2022 04:08 PM (OTvdu)

125 The salt laid down on the razed former sites of the alphabet agencies should be rock salt, not that near salt crap. Take no chances, I say.

Posted by: itzWicks at October 04, 2022 04:08 PM (Z6LNn)

126 I cannot explain this two-day stock surge, but I'm glad I'm in it.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 04:09 PM (24fqN)

127 My 320 report says that only two of us entered, pistols holstered, and were offered tea and cookies by Mrs. Houck.

Posted by: The Eff Bee Eye! at October 04, 2022 04:09 PM (fsV7e)

128 OT - Chess investigators find that US Grandmeister Hans Moke Neimann likely cheated more the 100 times (from WSJ)

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2022 04:09 PM (w0NJk)

129 Posted by: Nova local at October 04, 2022 03:59 PM (exHjb)

A conservative friend of mine goes to a Latin Mass in NJ. It is very unwoke.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 04:09 PM (vH/6k)

130 47 They should arrest Jill for those shoes.

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2022 03:52 PM (v0R5T)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-k9VE-eEY4&t=20s

Posted by: Formerly known as Skeptic at October 04, 2022 04:09 PM (FR+I0)

131 I'm sure Chuck Grassley will write another stern letter when he gets back from his 5 mile run.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 04, 2022 04:09 PM (qH6FZ)

132 What does her gender have to do with not being bright. There are obviously bright women attorneys. Often they work for organizations defending conservative causes.

///

leftwing girlboss abortion fixation. severe mental issues

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 04, 2022 04:10 PM (OuH7W)

133 I suspect that it is sexually exciting to leftists to send stormtroops in.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 04, 2022 04:10 PM (Ivdso)

134 And they send in a battalion of black-clad M-16-toting SWAT agents to take down a pastor for pushing a guy when his seven young children are home to arrest him for this piece of shit charge that will probably be dismissed before it goes to trial?
++++
Yes. And after the person told the prosecutor via his attorney that he would comply with an arrest and come in on his own if they arrested him. He wouldn't come in on his own recognizance (nor would I), but if ordered then he would turn himself in.

The whole thing is grotesque.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2022 04:10 PM (t0OGg)

135 Coming soon to an American street near you - Jin-Roh

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 04, 2022 04:11 PM (wMug7)

136 ... I thought we had a Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty (CTBT) that forbade above ground and below ground testing of nuclear devices. Will Russia become a nuclear outlaw ?
Posted by: SMOD at October 04, 2022 04:04 PM (RHGPo)

LOL - but Putin is facing a problem that US strategists realized decades ago; tactical (ie, small) battlefield nukes are great terror objects but really lousy weapons, in practical terms. This is a not a war with set piece battles between two massed armies, but rather a lot of small unit action through many small villages and forested areas. Putin has to be thinking, do I risk all the downsides of starting a nuclea warr just to take out 3 APC's parked at a wide spot in a country road?

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2022 04:11 PM (trdmm)

137 >>>She's got a great body and a pish accent. Oh I'm sorry I was thinking about Anne Eve.


alice eve

Posted by: ace at October 04, 2022 04:12 PM (B3oWe)

138 The objective wasn't to take him into custody, it was a warning to the rest of us.

I'm sure this was one of the objectives. Which tells me to speak up louder and more often. Give them the opposite reaction.

Posted by: AK at work at October 04, 2022 04:12 PM (o+IHV)

139 Agnus dei, quitolis peccata mundi, miserere nobis.

Love the Latin Mass.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 04, 2022 04:12 PM (OTvdu)

140 meanwhile, the Garland DOJ really worked hard to lower punishments for murderers and riotous firebombers.

eh, you know, no one cares outside of 5 to 7 bloggers

Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 04, 2022 04:12 PM (OuH7W)

141 53 28 Side note. A lady I'm dating took me to her Catholic church Sunday. They were all about justice this, justice that. Pushing the LGBT+ group. Inclusiveness to the point of excluding conservatives. It was a left wing shit show of Marxist liberation theology.
Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan MFers at October 04, 2022 03:49 PM (HM0us)

This is why I'm not religious. They're all nothing but chanters of woke.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 04, 2022 04:13 PM (BdMk6)

142 This is a lie.

How do I know? Because his lawyer offered to accept a summons and turn his his client for a peaceable arrest and they refused this (by completely blowing the offer off).

If they were afraid of a violent confrontation, they would have accepted that option, wouldn't they have?

++++
You're reading it all wrong, Ace. They wanted a big photo op and outrageous over-use of force to achieve political objectives, and that use of force and demonstration of power had to be even *bigger* because those are dangerous!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2022 04:13 PM (t0OGg)

143 The objective wasn't to take him into custody, it was a warning to the rest of us.

I'm sure this was one of the objectives. Which tells me to speak up louder and more often. Give them the opposite reaction.
Posted by: AK at work at October 04, 2022 04:12 PM (o+IHV)


FBI REPORT: "Shot while trying to escape."

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 04, 2022 04:13 PM (AiZBA)

144 I'd like to have a T shirt made up: "The Founders Would be Having Hearings By Now!"

Posted by: Zek at October 04, 2022 04:13 PM (fsV7e)

145 Darkly musing, they want a dead FBI agent.

They see it as a win-win.

One, rubes like Hannity and McCarthy will rally around the Bureau.
Two, they will get an open-fire, blank check to retaliate.

Wrey has an erection practicing his stern mourning face for the flag-drapped funeral.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 04, 2022 04:13 PM (oF9jz)

146 "Chess investigators find that US Grandmeister Hans Moke Neimann likely cheated more the 100 times (from WSJ)"

Paywalled. The investigation is being run by chess.com, who have not yet posted it on their site.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 04:13 PM (24fqN)

147 66 i added some at the end, it's good

Posted by: ace at October 04, 2022 03:56 PM (B3oWe)

You know who ELSE added some at the end and thought it was good?

Posted by: ... at October 04, 2022 04:14 PM (MRZYM)

148 How the hell do you cheat in chess?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 04:14 PM (Y5qcH)

149 Some people really love abortion to a sacramental extent. This makes the point "do not obstruct my access to Moloch, or I'll ruin you".

Posted by: CN at October 04, 2022 04:14 PM (Zzbjj)

150 I'd say the Feds seem to have learned nothing from their mistakes at Waco, but I'm afraid they've learned a lot from Waco, and they don't think they made any mistakes.

Posted by: Wally at October 04, 2022 04:14 PM (H6bGV)

151 Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 04, 2022 04:13 PM (BdMk6)

Depends on where you go. If you're speaking about the RCC. you might try the conservative Church Militant. They have a priest who was removed for his pulpit for being unapologetically traditional and he writes essays over there.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 04:15 PM (vH/6k)

152 71 I don't care about what "threats" it protects us against.

I still remember when the ham n' eggers helped the jihadi trying to assassinate Pam Gellar.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2022 03:57 PM (ESjRY)

What is a 'ham n' egger'. ?

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornistan at October 04, 2022 04:15 PM (f9EM2)

153 "How the hell do you cheat in chess?"

Hidden device.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 04:15 PM (24fqN)

154 But Tim McVeigh! Tim McVeigh!!

Posted by: The answer to every lawless, tyrannical act of the USG at October 04, 2022 04:15 PM (fsV7e)

155 The problem with tactical nukes is that your own forces have to fight in a radioactive battle space after their use which make their use problematic for commanders.


Posted by: Archer at October 04, 2022 04:15 PM (gmo/4)

156 Changed her name from Anita Mann to Amanda Hugginkiss.
Posted by: rickb223 Cruel ace is the best ace at October 04, 2022 04:02 PM


Does she have hair on her feet?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Quentin T. at October 04, 2022 04:16 PM (a3Q+t)

157 Conservative RC site-Church Militant.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 04:16 PM (vH/6k)

158 Recall how they put Bannon in leg irons and deliberately marched him past the gaggle of reporters?

He also agreed to turn himself in, had turned himself in.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 04, 2022 04:16 PM (oF9jz)

159 137 >>>She's got a great body and a pish accent. Oh I'm sorry I was thinking about Anne Eve.


alice eve
Posted by: ace at October 04, 2022 04:12 PM (B3oWe)

==========

Her underwear scene in Star Trek Into Darkness was all about the art, man...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022 04:16 PM (LvTSG)

160 155 The problem with tactical nukes is that your own forces have to fight in a radioactive battle space after their use which make their use problematic for commanders.


Posted by: Archer at October 04, 2022 04:15 PM (gmo/4)

Not when you're Russia and don't give a shit about your people.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 04:16 PM (Y5qcH)

161 The list of known wolves the FBI has let slip through is long and infamous. The FBI is all about terrorizing and cowing the average American.

Which means their job is protecting the deep state, not America.

Glad to have cleared up where the loyalties of the FBI truly lie.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 04, 2022 04:16 PM (5pTK/)

162 Ace, one correction. This guy is not a pastor, or a preacher in the colloquial sense. He is a pro-life activist, but a lay Catholic.

Sooo, not a Jesuit. Got it.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 04, 2022 04:17 PM (IyrhE)

163 It was an op with several purposes. Yes, one was let us know who was in charge and what they can do to us.

Also it was intended to help stir the right wing crazies coming to take your bortions pot. They got Mastraiano's immediate response to point to in support. And the Dems can claim they are supporting law and order.

Posted by: blaster at October 04, 2022 04:17 PM (2PaOF)

164 149 Some people really love abortion to a sacramental extent. This makes the point "do not obstruct my access to Moloch, or I'll ruin you".

Posted by: CN
--------------------
Planned Parenthood sells baby parts to the Medical research community--the later, the better as those are more valuable. So, they push far beyond what even the original Roe decision decided under the trimester system.

It is our version of what China does by harvesting organs from prisoners.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 04:18 PM (CXr4y)

165 The problem with tactical nukes is that your own forces have to fight in a radioactive battle space after their use which make their use problematic for commanders.
Posted by: Archer at October 04, 2022 04:15 PM


Not me. They'll just be MOPPing up.

Posted by: Gen. Milley at October 04, 2022 04:18 PM (a3Q+t)

166 hmm sorry I forgot WSJ paywalled:

"An internal report reviewed by The Wall Street Journal alleges a previously unknown pattern of likely widespread cheating by Hans Moke Niemann, the player whose September victory over Magnus Carlsen has rocked the chess world."

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2022 04:18 PM (w0NJk)

167 I see Tucker is gonna have a whole show with Bobolinski.. That should be good speaking of the FBI

Posted by: It's me donna at October 04, 2022 04:18 PM (bs+z0)

168 The FIB has to catch fake criminals. They are incapable of catching real criminals.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 04, 2022 04:18 PM (M+Lyo)

169 Not when you're Russia and don't give a shit about your people.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 04:16 PM (Y5qcH)


Not one step back, comrades!

Posted by: Archer at October 04, 2022 04:18 PM (gmo/4)

170 How the hell do you cheat in chess?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe


Vibrator in your shoe. The moose out front should've told 'ya.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 04, 2022 04:18 PM (IyrhE)

171 Her underwear scene in Star Trek Into Darkness was all about the art, man...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022 04:16 PM (LvTSG)

Indeed. It was also mimicking a similar scene in Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan when Carol Marcus also stripped down in front of Kirk while they were stranded in the middle of that asteroid...oh wait, that didn't happen.

Posted by: Thrawn at October 04, 2022 04:18 PM (Rl7KJ)

172 And has the FBI even investigated the pro-life crisis pregnancy centers?

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 04, 2022 04:18 PM (cMXNt)

173 >>>"Chess investigators find that US Grandmeister Hans Moke Neimann likely cheated more the 100 times (from WSJ)"

Paywalled. The investigation is being run by chess.com, who have not yet posted it on their site.

>I don't see a problem here considering Chuy has been using wireless anal beads on his COBs for years.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 04, 2022 04:18 PM (z+OQR)

174 FBI has a SOP for dealing with various situations. If there is a potential for the target to be armed, they go in heavy.

However Unless they have information this man was a gun owner (permit, etc.), someone probably advised he may be armed or violent. That would be DoJ.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 04, 2022 04:18 PM (OTvdu)

175 157 Conservative RC site-Church Militant.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 04:16 PM (vH/6k)

Is that in answer to my q at 152?

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornistan at October 04, 2022 04:18 PM (f9EM2)

176 I'm not sure I trust any of the reporting on the war in Ukraine. How it's really going is just a big unknown to me.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 04:18 PM (UuD2k)

177 "Eve" is the prosecutor's last name.

Her first name is "Summers".

Posted by: creeper at October 04, 2022 04:18 PM (cTCuP)

178 164 Planned Parenthood sells baby parts to the Medical research community--the later, the better as those are more valuable. So, they push far beyond what even the original Roe decision decided under the trimester system.

It is our version of what China does by harvesting organs from prisoners.
Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 04:18 PM (CXr4y)

=========

They just do pap smears, man.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022 04:19 PM (LvTSG)

179 "The problem with tactical nukes is that your own forces have to fight in a radioactive battle space after their use"

Even after an airburst? Wouldn't make much fallout, which would drift away from the det site anyway.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 04:19 PM (24fqN)

180 So how do vibrations help you in chess?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 04:19 PM (UuD2k)

181 sorry to go on but relevant chess stuff:

"Now, however, an investigation into Niemann’s play- conducted by Chess.com, an online platform where many top players compete - has found the scope of his cheating to be far wider and longer-lasting than he publicly admitted.

The report, reviewed by The Wall Street Journal, alleges that Niemann likely received illegal assistance in more than 100 online games, as recently as 2020. Those matches included contests in which prize money was on the line. The site uses a variety of cheating-detection tools, including analytics that compare moves to those recommended by chess engines, which are capable of beating even the greatest human players every time.

The report states that Niemann privately confessed to the allegations, and that he was subsequently banned from the site for a period of time.

The 72-page report also flagged what it described as irregularities in Niemann’s rise through the elite ranks of competitive, in-person chess. It highlights “many remarkable signals and unusual patterns in Hans’ path as a player.”"

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2022 04:19 PM (w0NJk)

182 Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 04:18 PM (UuD2k)


I agree

Posted by: It's me donna at October 04, 2022 04:19 PM (bs+z0)

183 Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornistan at October 04, 2022 04:18 PM (f9EM2)

No; That was about the contention from another poster that all churches are "woke".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 04:20 PM (vH/6k)

184 Her underwear scene in Star Trek Into Darkness was all about the art, man...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


The screenwriter was forced to apologize for that a year after the release. No, not Jar-Jar, the paid for play schmendrick writer.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 04, 2022 04:20 PM (IyrhE)

185 155 The problem with tactical nukes is that your own forces have to fight in a radioactive battle space after their use which make their use problematic for commanders.


Posted by: Archer
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Bad enough if your forces have trained for it but worse if you have a poorly trained and equipped army. So, that leaves using them for terror purposes by alleging a city, etc. is a legitimate target.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 04:20 PM (CXr4y)

186 Posted by: Archer at October 04, 2022 04:15 PM (gmo/4)

Not when you're Russia and don't give a shit about your people.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 04:16 PM (Y5qcH)

Saw a meme today - picture of head of Russian Army announcing "Russian troops today are bravely advancing to the rear as Ukrainian troops run in panic after them."

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2022 04:20 PM (trdmm)

187
Biden told Columbus not to sail his ship west

Posted by: Yo! Ultra MAGA at October 04, 2022 04:20 PM (ZxvY8)

188 Ok. Yesterday it was the fisherman cheating by putting lead weights in the fishes stomach. Today it's a chess player. What the heck is going on? I mean, next your going to say Democrats cheat in elections.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 04, 2022 04:20 PM (OTvdu)

189 Eve knew she was going to lose, so she opted to arrest him anyways for the optics.

She should be disbarred.

Posted by: Ultra pj at October 04, 2022 04:21 PM (G1dq6)

190 "The report, reviewed by The Wall Street Journal, alleges that Niemann likely received illegal assistance in more than 100 online games"

He already admitted to online cheating. The salient issue is over-the-board cheating. Which I don't think they can actually prove without finding the device on him.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 04:21 PM (24fqN)

191 188 Ok. Yesterday it was the fisherman cheating by putting lead weights in the fishes stomach. Today it's a chess player. What the heck is going on? I mean, next your going to say Democrats cheat in elections.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 04, 2022 04:20 PM (OTvdu)

=========

"50 points from Gryffindor!"
-Severus Snape, master of the social credit score at Hogwarts

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022 04:21 PM (LvTSG)

192 "Chess investigators find that US Grandmeister Hans Moke Neimann likely cheated more the 100 times (from WSJ)"
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That's alot of anal devices.

--.- ..- . . -. / - .- -.- . ... / .--. .- .-- -.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 04, 2022 04:22 PM (yikp0)

193 What is a 'ham n' egger'. ?
Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornistan at October 04, 2022 04:15 PM (f9EM2)

It's another name for the FBI-I guess it's a take on the idea that they're all straight arrow, on the level guys eating the normal breakfast of ham and eggs.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 04:22 PM (vH/6k)

194 Ok. Yesterday it was the fisherman cheating by putting lead weights in the fishes stomach. Today it's a chess player. What the heck is going on? I mean, next your going to say Democrats cheat in elections.
Posted by: Marcus T
___

When the presidency itself is stolen, everything is fair game.

Posted by: SMH at October 04, 2022 04:22 PM (AlREz)

195 141 not all of them are corrupt. I. Have been attending a PCA church that is pretty hard core. I just watched the movie “Becket” with Peter Otoole and Richard Burton. Those were better Times.

Posted by: Quint at October 04, 2022 04:22 PM (87M+Q)

196 They just do pap smears, man.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Planned Parenthood objections to over the counter birth control pills are because a) it threatens their core business of abortions and baby part selling, and b) Planned Parenthood uses prescriptions and pap smears as a shield to part a by arguing that they are a complete woman's health center when that is a minor part of their business.

Might as well rename them Moloch Inc.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 04:23 PM (CXr4y)

197 193. Thank you

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornistan at October 04, 2022 04:23 PM (f9EM2)

198 I couldn't help but notice the FBI's weasel words "no SWAT operators were present". Okay, so fucking what? 20 dudes with long guns is a major show of force, and would certainly look like a SWAT op to civilians, and would scare the absolute shit out of children.

Posted by: UGAdawg at October 04, 2022 04:24 PM (tRd71)

199 That Davy Crockett Nuclear Mortar might have been fun to play with if I were suicidal LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 04, 2022 04:24 PM (dO/0d)

200 So how do vibrations help you in chess?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 04:19 PM


I don't know where, but they send me there,
Good, good, good, good vibrations ...

Posted by: Crystal Eve at October 04, 2022 04:25 PM (a3Q+t)

201 I'm disappointed in you Morons. I lobbed you a soft ball and you whiffed it.

Posted by: creeper at October 04, 2022 04:25 PM (cTCuP)

202 PCA is conservative. Anglican Church in North America tends to be more conservative, Lutheran Church Missouri Synod and Lutheran-WELS (I think that's the proper acronym) are all more conservative.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 04:25 PM (vH/6k)

203
Bad enough if your forces have trained for it but worse if you have a poorly trained and equipped army.

_________

I'm sure the Russian Army's anti-radiation gear is top quality and impeccably maintained.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2022 04:25 PM (1Nxff)

204 It's another name for the FBI-I guess it's a take on the idea that they're all straight arrow, on the level guys eating the normal breakfast of ham and eggs.
____________

"Oatmealer" as a nickname came in a close second.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 04, 2022 04:26 PM (fs1hN)

205 Even after an airburst? Wouldn't make much fallout, which would drift away from the det site anyway.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp
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Airbursts are not as useful in tactical operations because theoretically they would be used to destroy massed tanks, fortifications, entrenched troops, and so on. Furthermore, it just might hit your own troops if you are not careful with it with emp pulses etc. Given the Russians are already having communication issues, that would not be advisable.

Most of the current battles seem also pretty spread out for nuclear weapons to be used that effectively compared to an artillery barrage.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 04:27 PM (CXr4y)

206 How the hell do you cheat in chess?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
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Your pawns were offside? You had an illegal piece downfield?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 04, 2022 04:27 PM (YqDXo)

207 What is a 'ham n' egger'. ?

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornistan at October 04, 2022 04:15 PM (f9EM2)

It's a slap in the face to the men and women who keep America safe.

Posted by: Hammond Eggar at October 04, 2022 04:28 PM (wBpKf)

208 I'm sure the Russian Army's anti-radiation gear is top quality and impeccably maintained.
Posted by: Hadrian

IIRC the NBC gear is only 'good' for about 6 months.
That would be a real pain to maintain the certs.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 04, 2022 04:28 PM (BIKbQ)

209 Immunity for doing her/their jobs.

Posted by: Lola at October 04, 2022 04:28 PM (NIYa7)

210 I couldn't help but notice the FBI's weasel words "no SWAT operators were present". Okay, so fucking what? 20 dudes with long guns is a major show of force, and would certainly look like a SWAT op to civilians, and would scare the absolute shit out of children.
Posted by: UGAdawg at October 04, 2022 04:24 PM (tRd71)
___________

Not to mention the household dog, who probably saw the end of his days just by looking at them.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 04, 2022 04:29 PM (YqDXo)

211 "Which I don't think they can actually prove without finding the device on him.
Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp"

Don't you mean "in him"?

Posted by: fd 6.2.03x at October 04, 2022 04:29 PM (sn5EN)

212 I'm disappointed in you Morons. I lobbed you a soft ball and you whiffed it.
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Does that make us Daily Refreshing Individual Clods??

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 04, 2022 04:29 PM (yikp0)

213 I'm disappointed in you Morons. I lobbed you a soft ball and you whiffed it.
Posted by: creeper at October 04, 2022 04:25 PM


'Rons are gentlemen.

Posted by: J. Random Moron at October 04, 2022 04:29 PM (a3Q+t)

214 I'm sure the Russian Army's anti-radiation gear is top quality and impeccably maintained.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2022 04:25 PM (1Nxff)

There's no such thing as anti-radiation gear. Unless you tote around a few inches of lead shielding. You can put on anti-contamination gear which prevents you from inhaling, absorbing, or ingesting radioactive particles.

But you're getting the radiation. It's just not coming from inside you.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 04:29 PM (UuD2k)

215 I (an attorney) once represented a guy for drug distribution at the state court level. I heard that the feds were going to file a case, which normally would result in the dismissal of the state case.

I called the assistant US attorney handling the case and offered to get my client to turn himself in once the grand jury dropped an indictment. Was told to mind my own business and buzz off.

The federal marshals tried to arrest him at his dad's funeral and killed him when he tried to reach back into his vehicle because they said that they thought that he was reaching for a weapon.

The SWAT team creates the danger, not the other way round.

Posted by: A Concerned Citizen at October 04, 2022 04:29 PM (zcPgo)

216 More evidence of Strozk's "selfishness".

Posted by: DaveA at October 04, 2022 04:30 PM (FhXTo)

217
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 04:25 PM (vH/6k)

__________

Among Catholics, the FSSP, SSPX and ICKSP are not so much more conservative as that they attract more conservative parishioners.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2022 04:30 PM (1Nxff)

218 One thing the current administration has mastered: "wait 24 hours before reacting" means the original story is going to be worse than the initial report.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 04, 2022 04:30 PM (5pTK/)

219 Via ZH, King Bozo of Clown World hath spoken:

"The UN Demands All Central Banks Stop Rate Hikes And Switch To Price Controls Instead"

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 04:30 PM (24fqN)

220 What is a 'ham n' egger'. ?
Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornistan at October 04, 2022 04:15 PM (f9EM2)

It's another name for the FBI-I guess it's a take on the idea that they're all straight arrow, on the level guys eating the normal breakfast of ham and eggs.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 04:22 PM (vH/6k)


It's an old phrase that Hannity screwed up (Imagine that!). Rocky in the original movie referred to himself as a ham and egger, just a guy scratching out a living. It was a popular term in '80s pro wrestling, describing guys who were nobodies who would never fight for the title. But Hannity started using it as guys who put in an honest day's work, distinguishing them from the corrupt guys on the Russia frameup.

Posted by: Wally at October 04, 2022 04:30 PM (H6bGV)

221 The problem with tactical nukes is that your own forces have to fight in a radioactive battle space after their use which make their use problematic for commanders.
.......

That's why you need bomb sniffing pigs.

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2022 04:30 PM (v0R5T)

222 " I'm disappointed in you Morons. I lobbed you a soft ball and you whiffed it.
Posted by: creeper "

Sorry. I just walked in. I did get a whiff of vinegar when I got here.

Posted by: fd 6.2.03x at October 04, 2022 04:30 PM (sn5EN)

223 That Davy Crockett Nuclear Mortar might have been fun to play with if I were suicidal LOL
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 04, 2022 04:24 PM (dO/0d)

Motarman watching nuclear explosion: Down100, right 50.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 04, 2022 04:30 PM (BdMk6)

224 'Rons are gentlemen.
Posted by: J. Random Moron
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*snort*

Posted by: SMH at October 04, 2022 04:30 PM (AlREz)

225 Most of the current battles seem also pretty spread out for nuclear weapons to be used that effectively compared to an artillery barrage.

Posted by: whig
_____________________

Yeah, that's what I don't get about this war. The force to space ratio seems to be very low. You would think the front would be a lot more fluid than it is.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 04, 2022 04:31 PM (SIZS3)

226 The problem with tactical nukes is that your own forces have to fight in a radioactive battle space after their use which make their use problematic for commanders.


Posted by: Archer

No. Check again.

Posted by: MkY at October 04, 2022 04:31 PM (cPGH3)

227 Posted by: Quint at October 04, 2022 04:22 PM (87M+Q)

Except that Becket got slaughtered in front of the altar in his church ,the dispute had more to do with keeping the church legally separate from the state and it was not about Becket standing up for traditional Catholic theological doctrine-which Henry II would have- supported anyway.

It is a fine movie, though.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 04:31 PM (vH/6k)

228 Tom,

I agree that the tactical aspect is absolutely an unwise decision.

I think Putin will lob a big one on the Z. I wouldn't want to be the guy that fingers him.

Posted by: pawn at October 04, 2022 04:32 PM (kYVzH)

229
'Rons are gentlemen.
Posted by: J. Random Moro

__________

I always take my hat off before hitting a woman.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2022 04:32 PM (1Nxff)

230 I posted about this after he was arrested by the f'n SWAT team and a few commenters effectively said it was his fault for bringing his son to an Abortion Clinic.

SMH.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 04, 2022 04:32 PM (bkUtD)

231 210 I couldn't help but notice the FBI's weasel words "no SWAT operators were present"...

I wouldn't use SWAT operators either. My guys (and girls - hey, I'm an equal opportunity fascist) will wear fashionable retro leather overcoats that are equally at home when asking for someone's papers or kicking in a secret attic door.

Posted by: jwest at October 04, 2022 04:32 PM (/BlEx)

232 Congrats, fd.

Posted by: creeper at October 04, 2022 04:32 PM (cTCuP)

233 I (an attorney) once represented a guy for drug distribution at the state court level. I heard that the feds were going to file a case, which normally would result in the dismissal of the state case.

I called the assistant US attorney handling the case and offered to get my client to turn himself in once the grand jury dropped an indictment. Was told to mind my own business and buzz off.

The federal marshals tried to arrest him at his dad's funeral and killed him when he tried to reach back into his vehicle because they said that they thought that he was reaching for a weapon.

The SWAT team creates the danger, not the other way round.
Posted by: A Concerned Citizen at October 04, 2022 04:29 PM (zcPgo)

Yep. A lot of these forceful raids are done with the hope that they can go all Breonna Taylor on someone

Posted by: Wally at October 04, 2022 04:32 PM (H6bGV)

234 "Which I don't think they can actually prove without finding the device on him.
Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp"

Don't you mean "in him"?
Posted by: fd 6.2.03x at October 04, 2022 04:29 PM (sn5EN)
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Hook me up with some knowledge here, Horde. I presume the allegation is that he had a team of chess masters analyzing the position for him offsite,
and transmitting their results to him electronically.

Regardless of how/where you send the electronic signals, how do you indicate what piece to move, and where?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 04, 2022 04:33 PM (YqDXo)

235 I'm sure the Russian Army's anti-radiation gear is top quality and impeccably maintained.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
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I don't really have a dog in the fight but from what I have read, a lot of elite Russian divisions have been mauled in combat and they would be the most trained for it. Reservists and conscripts would be the ones least trained for it and it appears that these are being shoveled in as replacements for casualties rather than withdraw the elite Russian units for refit/R&R. Russia seems to be having the same issues that the US did around the time of the Battle of the Bulge. There was a real shortage of infantry due to attrition from DDAY onwards while there was plenty of aircraft, artillery, etc. As a result, raw recruits and other units were cannibalized to provide warm bodies to the infantry units. From all accounts on the ground, the newcomers were casualties at rates far greater than veteran troops.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 04:33 PM (CXr4y)

236 47 They should arrest Jill for those shoes.
Posted by: wth at October 04, 2022 03:52 PM

Her shoes are usually more awful than the dresses.

Posted by: Moonbeam at October 04, 2022 04:33 PM (rbKZ6)

237 "Regardless of how/where you send the electronic signals, how do you indicate what piece to move, and where?"

Chess engine. They are far stronger players than any human now.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 04:34 PM (24fqN)

238 When I hear tactical nukes, I think neutron bomb. Nice and clean. Can move the new population right into buildings after the cleanup.

Posted by: MkY at October 04, 2022 04:34 PM (cPGH3)

239 "Regardless of how/where you send the electronic signals, how do you indicate what piece to move, and where?"

Pretty simple to work out a code using short and long signals.

Posted by: fd 6.2.03z at October 04, 2022 04:34 PM (sn5EN)

240 If this is five dimensional chess then they are obviously communicating by Bluetooth butt plugs. Probly invented in the MCU. Imagine that in the next SWAT raid.

Posted by: Holy Crap at October 04, 2022 04:35 PM (n0K8b)

241 Fen I had a moment of clarity recently. In my PCA church the pastor gave the news about the SC ruling on Roe. There was a spontaneous outburst of joy. I checked on my former church online. They barely get fifty hits online though they are rich. The pastor prayed “for those effected” by the Supreme Court ruling. We all knew what that meant.

Posted by: Quint at October 04, 2022 04:35 PM (87M+Q)

242 Isn't there some new stupid FBI t.v. show?

Can't wait for the "snatched from the headlines" version of this to tell the REAL story.
Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks


There's CBS FBI tuesdays rimjob.
FBI, International, Wanted.

They're all crap.

Posted by: DaveA at October 04, 2022 04:35 PM (FhXTo)

243 Mitch the Bitch is not going to allow the FBI to be defunded. He likely approves of the Stasi tactics. Wouldn't surprise me if he is in the loop via courtesy calls in advance.

McCain wasn't the only R traitor to the party and the country.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at October 04, 2022 04:35 PM (DePyg)

244 Yeah, that's what I don't get about this war. The force to space ratio seems to be very low. You would think the front would be a lot more fluid than it is.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
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Both sides are short on infantry and much of the area aside from the Donbas area cities were sparsely inhabited.

Takes a pretty long time to actually train infantry and they usually bear the brunt of any casualties--especially on the offensive.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 04:35 PM (CXr4y)

245 >>it was his own fault for bringing his son to an abortion clinic

Of ffs!
Guess this would be the woke being more accurate than us, in that hey, their side has made it clear that killing kids is not only fair game, but a sacred right. So of course these ghouls would harass a kid at a related protest.

Posted by: lizzy at October 04, 2022 04:36 PM (I/doM)

246 But you're getting the radiation. It's just not coming from inside you.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 04:29 PM


Once you ingest isotopes, you are, hence prophylactic measures like MOPP suits and taking potassium iodide tablets.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2022 04:36 PM (a3Q+t)

247 172 And has the FBI even investigated the pro-life crisis pregnancy centers?
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They're not investigating them, they're "investigating" them. A report a few days ago said 70 attacks, zero arrests.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at October 04, 2022 04:36 PM (sWM8x)

248 243 Mitch the Bitch is not going to allow the FBI to be defunded. He likely approves of the Stasi tactics. Wouldn't surprise me if he is in the loop via courtesy calls in advance.

McCain wasn't the only R traitor to the party and the country.
Posted by: East Bay Jay at October 04, 2022 04:35 PM (DePyg)

=========

Here's the fun part. The House could do it all by themselves.

It'd be a game of chicken and involve an extended government shutdown, but the House could make it happen without the Senate's help.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022 04:36 PM (LvTSG)

249 You would think the front would be a lot more fluid than it is.
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I think Putin will lob a big one on the Z. I wouldn't want to be the guy that fingers him.
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More softballs??

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 04, 2022 04:36 PM (yikp0)

250 "Regardless of how/where you send the electronic signals, how do you indicate what piece to move, and where?"

Chess engine. They are far stronger players than any human now.
Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 04:34 PM (24fqN)
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Sure, but how do you communicate that to the guy in the match?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 04, 2022 04:36 PM (YqDXo)

251 250 Sure, but how do you communicate that to the guy in the match?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 04, 2022 04:36 PM (YqDXo)

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Morse code through buzzing anal cavities?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022 04:37 PM (LvTSG)

252 "Sure, but how do you communicate that to the guy in the match?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara"

Good vibrations?

Posted by: fd 6.2.04 at October 04, 2022 04:37 PM (sn5EN)

253 238 When I hear tactical nukes, I think neutron bomb. Nice and clean. Can move the new population right into buildings after the cleanup.

Posted by: MkY
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We actually do not know if the Russians have an enhanced radiation device. We developed prototypes during the Carter years to stop the predicted mass tank attacks but the Euros had the vapors about it so it was quietly shelved. Supposedly the Russians have prototypes of Cobalt 60 dirty bombs that are truly nasty stuff by poisoning the area with radiation for a very long time.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 04:37 PM (CXr4y)

254 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2022 04:30 PM (1Nxff)

I would think that if you officiate at a traditional Latin Mass the priest is probably not on board with much of Vatican II and so more conservative.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 04:37 PM (vH/6k)

255 /sock

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 04, 2022 04:37 PM (44ww/)

256 he had a team of chess masters analyzing the position for him offsite, and transmitting their results to him electronically.
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Very, very in-depth analysis.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 04, 2022 04:38 PM (yikp0)

257 Yeah, that's what I don't get about this war. The force to space ratio seems to be very low. You would think the front would be a lot more fluid than it is.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 04, 2022 04:31 PM (SIZS3)

For the last couple of months, the Russian forces (with a few exceptions, mainly by the mercs) have dug into fixed position in various towns and logistical hubs, and protected themselves from attack with artillery. They have left the areas in between open, however, probably due to a lack of manpower. Ukraine has attacked by using small unit tactics in out of the way areas and slowly encircling the fortified towns.. This is what happened in Lyman; the Russians had to abandon the position when the last road to it was about to be cut . It's also how they're approaching Kherson.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2022 04:38 PM (trdmm)

258 "Sure, but how do you communicate that to the guy in the match?"

Source square, destination square. You can number the squares 1 to 64, or devise an XY code. Vibrator and pressure sensors to interface.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 04:38 PM (24fqN)

259 Side note. A lady I'm dating took me to her Catholic church Sunday. They were all about justice this, justice that. Pushing the LGBT+ group. Inclusiveness to the point of excluding conservatives. It was a left wing shit show of Marxist liberation theology.
Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan MFers at October 04, 2022 03:49 PM (HM0us)
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Talk about a nice way to shrink a parish.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 04, 2022 04:38 PM (xWZcb)

260
"Chess investigators find that US Grandmeister Hans Moke Neimann likely cheated more the 100 times (from WSJ)"

____________

These charges are disinformation and have been debunked. They are not widespread and would not have affected the outcome of the match.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2022 04:39 PM (1Nxff)

261 It's an old phrase that Hannity screwed up (Imagine that!). Rocky in the original movie referred to himself as a ham and egger, just a guy scratching out a living. It was a popular term in '80s pro wrestling, describing guys who were nobodies who would never fight for the title. But Hannity started using it as guys who put in an honest day's work, distinguishing them from the corrupt guys on the Russia frameup.
Posted by: Wally

In rasslin these people were also known as jobbers. Think the Brooklyn Brawler.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 04, 2022 04:39 PM (MGB5H)

262 Cobalt 60 dirty bombs that are truly nasty stuff by poisoning the area with radiation for a very long time.
Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 04:37 PM (CXr4y)

Drop one in the Capitol.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 04, 2022 04:39 PM (dO/0d)

263 And we all know about the Nuremberg Trials, don't we?

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Make Nuremberg Trials Great Again!

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 04, 2022 04:39 PM (fZmG/)

264 Pretty simple to work out a code using short and long signals.
Posted by: fd 6.2.03z at October 04, 2022 04:34 PM (sn5EN)
___________

QN to QB3!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 04, 2022 04:39 PM (YqDXo)

265 Sorry. I just walked in. I did get a whiff of vinegar when I got here.
Posted by: fd 6.2.03x at October 04, 2022 04:30 PM


We'd smell brimstone, if we believed in such things.

Posted by: Denizens of Democratic Underground at October 04, 2022 04:40 PM (a3Q+t)

266 "We sent in 40 agents in assault armor and full tactical weapons kit with 20 armored vehicles because we were afraid he would shoot at us if we didn't present overwhelming force."


But it's not a SWAT team so settle down.

Posted by: Ripley at October 04, 2022 04:40 PM (MxEKc)

267
Sure, but how do you communicate that to the guy in the match?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 04, 2022 04:36 PM (YqDXo

Electronic butt plug.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 04, 2022 04:40 PM (BdMk6)

268 Posted by: Quint at October 04, 2022 04:35 PM (87M+Q)

I'm glad you have found a church in which you feel centered theologically. I recall you saying it was a hard thing for you.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 04:40 PM (vH/6k)

269 "The SWAT team creates the danger, not the other way round."
Posted by: A Concerned Citizen at October 04, 2022 04:29 PM (zcPgo)

I don't even know why the feds or local police even have separate "SWAT" units anymore. They train all their officers to treat every citizen as threat to their safety as though they were an opposing military force. We got big problems in all our current policing policies.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 04, 2022 04:40 PM (qH6FZ)

270 What is the difference between the Nuremberg Trials and the J6th COmmittee and those trumped up impeachment votes?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 04, 2022 04:40 PM (dO/0d)

271 "Sure, but how do you communicate that to the guy in the match?"

There need be no radio comms. You can fit a CPU running a chess engine into a small package. So RF jamming doesn't help. The only way to prove it would be to find the device with X-ray or CAT scanner.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 04:41 PM (24fqN)

272 And has the FBI even investigated the pro-life crisis pregnancy centers?

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at October 04, 2022 04:18 PM (cMXNt)

For what?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 04, 2022 04:41 PM (XIJ/X)

273 Why accept a peaceable arrest when you can storm a home filled with children while brandishing overkill levels of firepower?

You storm a home filled with children because you want to instill fear in your political opponents.

I guess that would make the FBI a domestic terrorist organization, wouldn't it?

Posted by: Socratease at October 04, 2022 04:41 PM (oqnjT)

274 207 What is a 'ham n' egger'. ?

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornistan at October 04, 2022 04:15 PM (f9EM2)

It's a slap in the face to the men and women who keep America safe.
Posted by: Hammond Eggar at October 04, 2022 04:28 PM (wBpKf)

Haaaaaamond!

/Clarkson

Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at October 04, 2022 04:41 PM (pkTq0)

275

I would think that if you officiate at a traditional Latin Mass the priest is probably not on board with much of Vatican II and so more conservative.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 04:37 PM (vH/6k)

_________

I can't say I've heard any of our priests speak in political terms, but I also don't think they have much sympathy with current affairs.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2022 04:41 PM (1Nxff)

276 Remember, the Traditional Latin Mass is the greatest threat there is to the unity of the Church.

But not, of course, segregating into English and Spanish masses. That’s pure unity.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 04, 2022 04:41 PM (U+Oxn)

277 Cobalt 60 dirty bombs that are truly nasty stuff by poisoning the area with radiation for a very long time.
Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 04:37 PM (CXr4y)

Drop one in the Capitol.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 04, 2022 04:39 PM (dO/0d)

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With "Ashli's Revenge" painted on the side ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 04, 2022 04:41 PM (fZmG/)

278 These people lose their minds when anyone proposes a quarter of a percentage point cut spread out over a decade for a government agency no one has ever heard of.

Imagine the "draconian" nightmare that would befall this nation of anyone dared put forth a spending bill that cut out the FBI?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 04, 2022 04:41 PM (KbCG3)

279 If the guy jumps every time you push the garage door opener button, you can be pretty sure something is up.
Up there.

Posted by: fd 6.2.04 at October 04, 2022 04:42 PM (sn5EN)

280 he had a team of chess masters analyzing the position for him offsite, and transmitting their results to him electronically.
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Very, very in-depth analysis.
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 04, 2022 04:38 PM (yikp0)
____________

A medical site had a story about an Army officer who (for some reason) stuck a pager up his butt. The admitting ER physician said he needed the pager's number for "the records," and the ER staff then amused themselves for hours by dialing the number, just to watch the guy's expression.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 04, 2022 04:42 PM (YqDXo)

281 Supposedly the Russians have prototypes of Cobalt 60 dirty bombs that are truly nasty stuff by poisoning the area with radiation for a very long time.
Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 04:37 PM (CXr4y)

And they only have value as terror objects, not as actual weapons. If the Russians ever used something like that on a city, the candle would get lit under every launch silo in north dakota (and elsewhere) It would have to be; once the genie is out of the bottle, you've got to use what you have before they're taken out.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2022 04:42 PM (trdmm)

282 What is the difference between the Nuremberg Trials and the J6th COmmittee and those trumped up impeachment votes?
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Nuremberg: crimes committed.
J6 committee: not so much.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 04, 2022 04:42 PM (BIKbQ)

283 Both sides are short on infantry and much of the area aside from the Donbas area cities were sparsely inhabited.

Takes a pretty long time to actually train infantry and they usually bear the brunt of any casualties--especially on the offensive.
Posted by: whig
_______________________
Right, but if large portions of the front are so lightly held, why haven't there been more breakthroughs? Because neither side can mass sufficient force to sustain a push?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 04, 2022 04:42 PM (SIZS3)

284 The Mexican beer?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 03:58 PM (UuD2k)

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Isn't that Dos Hecate'?

Posted by: Darth Randall at October 04, 2022 04:42 PM (zL564)

285 I believe if we have the neutron bomb, then the Chicoms and the Russkies have them.
Add in the Israelis, the French and the Eyetalians.
Dunno about others.
I argued strongly (to whom?) that the Afghan hills were the ideal spot to test those puppies.

Posted by: MkY at October 04, 2022 04:42 PM (cPGH3)

286 OMG, just got an email from El Pollo Loco...the tag line is

"Happy National #MORETHANTACOS Day"

Boom. Latinos will blow it up!

Posted by: Sassy at October 04, 2022 04:43 PM (xSICi)

287 Darkly musing, they want a dead FBI agent.

Two, they will get an open-fire, blank check to retaliate.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 04, 2022 04:13 PM (oF9jz)

This is exactly right. It's less intimidation than it is provocation. Ratchet the temperature higher and higher until you raid someone nominally on the right who has nothing left to lose.

Then it's open season.

Posted by: ballistic at October 04, 2022 04:43 PM (oXNqT)

288 Who the hell has a pager in 2022?

Posted by: lizzy at October 04, 2022 04:43 PM (I/doM)

289 Side note. A lady I'm dating took me to her Catholic church Sunday. They were all about justice this, justice that. Pushing the LGBT+ group. Inclusiveness to the point of excluding conservatives. It was a left wing shit show of Marxist liberation theology.
Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan MFers at October 04, 2022 03:49 PM (HM0us)
==
Talk about a nice way to shrink a parish.


they think full on support for illegal immigration will replace the conservatives that are leaving. doubtful

Posted by: brak at October 04, 2022 04:43 PM (j5Tg0)

290 There's no such thing as anti-radiation gear. Unless you tote around a few inches of lead shielding. You can put on anti-contamination gear which prevents you from inhaling, absorbing, or ingesting radioactive particles.

But you're getting the radiation. It's just not coming from inside you.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe
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Not really true. There is gamma (x) rays that act pretty much as you say, alpha particles (protons) that can be stopped relatively easily by protective gear as can beta particles (electrons).

If you dig around, you will find a picture of a couple of US military observers UNDERNEATH an airburst nuke from the 50's. They were certainly zapped with some xrays but I think almost all of them lived to a ripe old age. Here is the NPR story with pix https://tinyurl.com/5f4nvn5h

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 04:43 PM (CXr4y)

291 Electronic butt plug.

Do you get Wi-Fi here?
Grimace.
We do now.

Posted by: DaveA at October 04, 2022 04:43 PM (FhXTo)

292 Planned Parenthood also distributes condems and birth control with higher failure rates than all other products.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 04, 2022 04:43 PM (oF9jz)

293 What is a 'ham n' egger

Moisten slice of ham with an egg before wrapping Johnson and vigorously sliding back and forth.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty of aspersions to cast at October 04, 2022 04:43 PM (mnoTq)

294 270 What is the difference between the Nuremberg Trials and the J6th COmmittee and those trumped up impeachment votes?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 04, 2022 04:40 PM (dO/0d)

The Nuremberg trials weren't run by the nazis.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2022 04:44 PM (trdmm)

295 "If the Russians ever used something like that on a city, the candle would get lit under every launch silo in north dakota (and elsewhere) It would have to be"

I'm sure FJB would handle it adroitly. If he fails, the Woke Military has top men on the job.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 04:44 PM (24fqN)

296 Who the hell has a pager in 2022?
Posted by: lizzy at October 04, 2022 04:43 PM (I/doM)
__________

This story was from years ago, when pagers were ubiquitous.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 04, 2022 04:44 PM (YqDXo)

297
What is the difference between the Nuremberg Trials and the J6th COmmittee and those trumped up impeachment votes?
Posted by: Nevergiveup

________

Von Papen, Schacht and Fritzsche were acquitted.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2022 04:44 PM (1Nxff)

298 Again how is this a federal case? Oh yeah, everything is terrorism now.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 04, 2022 04:45 PM (Ivdso)

299 Who the hell has a pager in 2022?
Posted by: lizzy

Physicians who take call.

Posted by: BruceWayne at October 04, 2022 04:45 PM (MGB5H)

300 What this situation really calls for is another one of those thumbsucker articles gushing about how wonderful and peaceful the world would be if women ran everything.

Posted by: Azathoth at October 04, 2022 04:45 PM (wb1YC)

301 "Who the hell has a pager in 2022?
Posted by: lizzy"

Maybe they couldn't safely remove it.

Posted by: fd 6.2.06 at October 04, 2022 04:45 PM (sn5EN)

302 "His lawyer offered to accept a summons and turn his his client for a peaceable arrest and they refused this."

Funny, pretty much the same thing happened with David Koresh.

Posted by: Socratease at October 04, 2022 04:45 PM (oqnjT)

303 You storm a home filled with children because you want to instill fear in your political opponents.

I guess that would make the FBI a domestic terrorist
organization, wouldn't it?

Posted by: Socratease at October 04, 2022 04:41 PM (oqnjT)

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Fuehrer's Bureau of Intimidation.

Fecklessness. Betrayal. Insurrection.

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 04, 2022 04:45 PM (fZmG/)

304 A medical site had a story about an Army officer who (for some reason) stuck a pager up his butt. The admitting ER physician said he needed the pager's number for "the records," and the ER staff then amused themselves for hours by dialing the number, just to watch the guy's expression.
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Something similar didn't work out very well for Gregory House.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 04, 2022 04:46 PM (yikp0)

305 Not really true. There is gamma (x) rays that act pretty much as you say, alpha particles (protons) that can be stopped relatively easily by protective gear as can beta particles (electrons).

If you dig around, you will find a picture of a couple of US military observers UNDERNEATH an airburst nuke from the 50's. They were certainly zapped with some xrays but I think almost all of them lived to a ripe old age. Here is the NPR story with pix https://tinyurl.com/5f4nvn5h
Posted by: whig

The dangers of a nuclear conflict have been intentionally exaggerated. No nuclear winter. Read long term effects of survivors Hiroshima, Nagasaki.

Posted by: MkY at October 04, 2022 04:46 PM (cPGH3)

306 Right, but if large portions of the front are so lightly held, why haven't there been more breakthroughs? Because neither side can mass sufficient force to sustain a push?
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 04, 2022 04:42 PM (SIZS3)

I think that's it; Ukraine shouldn't really be a contender in this fight, they appear hopelessly outmanned. But the performance of the Russian army has been so abysmal that they're advancing anyways.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2022 04:46 PM (trdmm)

307 "Who the hell has a pager in 2022?"

Pagers are still heavily used by hospitals, industrial process monitors and some network admins. Surprisingly, their transmissions are unencrypted. Anybody can monitor them.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 04:47 PM (24fqN)

308 28 Side note. A lady I'm dating took me to her Catholic church Sunday. They were all about justice this, justice that. Pushing the LGBT+ group. Inclusiveness to the point of excluding conservatives. It was a left wing shit show of Marxist liberation theology.
Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan MFers at October 04, 2022 03:49 PM (HM0us)

odds these days are she was going to be a nut. she kindly confirmed the math.

Posted by: x at October 04, 2022 04:47 PM (ZC2go)

309 This is exactly right. It's less intimidation than it is provocation. Ratchet the temperature higher and higher until you raid someone nominally on the right who has nothing left to lose.

Then it's open season

****

Until somebody in the front office starts doing math.

Posted by: Azathoth at October 04, 2022 04:47 PM (wb1YC)

310 If you dig around, you will find a picture of a couple of US military observers UNDERNEATH an airburst nuke from the 50's. They were certainly zapped with some xrays but I think almost all of them lived to a ripe old age. Here is the NPR story with pix https://tinyurl.com/5f4nvn5h
Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 04:43 PM (CXr4y)
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My father was one of them. He was in the USMC Test Unit (ca. 1954, IIRC) that exploded a small nuke in the desert to see how protective trenches etc. were. He came down with thyroid cancer in 1956, had his thyroid removed, and lived to be 87.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 04, 2022 04:47 PM (YqDXo)

311 >>>Of ffs!
Guess this would be the woke being more accurate than us, in that hey, their side has made it clear that killing kids is not only fair game, but a sacred right. So of course these ghouls would harass a kid at a related protest.
Posted by: lizzy


Dad is trying to show him how abortion is awful, and when the kid gets harassed, it's dad's fault. Just an unreal explanation.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at October 04, 2022 04:47 PM (bkUtD)

312 Remember when bad guys used to use pagers to set off bombs? That wouldn't work too well these days with all the spam calls.

Posted by: fd 6.2.07 at October 04, 2022 04:48 PM (sn5EN)

313 Moisten slice of ham with an egg before wrapping Johnson and vigorously sliding back and forth.
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty of aspersions to cast at October 04, 2022 04:43 PM


Use the right spices, and you have some jerk ham, mon.

Posted by: Jamaican Vacation at October 04, 2022 04:48 PM (a3Q+t)

314
What this situation really calls for is another one of those thumbsucker articles gushing about how wonderful and peaceful the world would be if women ran everything.
Posted by: Azathoth at October 04, 2022 04:45 PM (wb1YC)

__________

A war between two nations both run by women would be at once set off for the most trivial reason that no one would discuss and fought with the bitterest intensity for the longest time.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2022 04:48 PM (1Nxff)

315 >>> "Regardless of how/where you send the electronic signals, how do you indicate what piece to move, and where?"

Pretty simple to work out a code using short and long signals.

Posted by: fd 6.2.03z

>Morse Code for your butthole. It's not like you need an enigma machine down there.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 04, 2022 04:48 PM (z+OQR)

316 The dangers of a nuclear conflict have been intentionally exaggerated. No nuclear winter. Read long term effects of survivors Hiroshima, Nagasaki.
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I'm not saying we won't get our hair mussed!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 04, 2022 04:48 PM (yikp0)

317 Right, but if large portions of the front are so lightly held, why haven't there been more breakthroughs? Because neither side can mass sufficient force to sustain a push?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
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Compare the relative size of the armies versus what the Germans and USSR were fielding in the area. The Germans in WWII had probably more troops in Stalingrad than the Russians or Ukrainians have for the whole front in Ukraine. The USSR had slightly less in Stalingrad proper. Now, take those percentages down to the number of infantry and that is why the offensives seem as if they are moving in slow motion. You have to have infantry to secure the gains that armor makes in this sort of battleground and the Russians also have to reserve quite a few troops to guard supply lines from partisans attack. So, the troops are thinly arranged and probably quartered a lot in the complexes of small villages and farms in the region.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 04:49 PM (CXr4y)

318 I think that's it; Ukraine shouldn't really be a contender in this fight, they appear hopelessly outmanned. But the performance of the Russian army has been so abysmal that they're advancing anyways.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2022 04:46 PM (trdmm)
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Historically the Russian army has been appallingly bad. Even in WWII, they only won because of their enormous numbers, and the Krauts' strategic blunders (thanks, Adolf!).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 04, 2022 04:49 PM (YqDXo)

319 But the performance of the Russian army has been so abysmal that they're advancing anyways.
Posted by: Tom Servo

And you know that how?
By what you read. I don't believe any of it. And I take Voxday with a heaping helping of salt, but read the quotes on his site.

Posted by: MkY at October 04, 2022 04:49 PM (cPGH3)

320 148 How the hell do you cheat in chess?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 04:14 PM (Y5qcH)
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Loaded dice?
/s

Posted by: Ciampino - My knight just raped your queen at October 04, 2022 04:49 PM (qfLjt)

321 Like Peter "Stroke", the FBI keeps making poor choices.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 04, 2022 04:49 PM (Cus5s)

322
Hook me up with some knowledge here, Horde. I presume the allegation is that he had a team of chess masters analyzing the position for him offsite,
and transmitting their results to him electronically.

Regardless of how/where you send the electronic signals, how do you indicate what piece to move, and where?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


I get that everyone here is 29, but morse code, motherfucker, do you speak it?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 04, 2022 04:49 PM (IyrhE)

323 303 "You storm a home filled with children because you want to instill fear in your political opponents. I guess that would make the FBI a domestic terrorist organization, wouldn't it? " Posted by: Socratease at October 04, 2022 04:41 PM (oqnjT)

I'm certain that if we take the high road and strictly follow the rule of law after winning back power, without any hint of retribution, the democrats will recognize their faults and never act like that again.

Posted by: jwest at October 04, 2022 04:51 PM (/BlEx)

324 When a Republican president takes over in 2025, he needs to create a commission that will take a look at the FBI - conduct hearings where people like this individual and those like him can attest to abuses, insiders that were intimidated can have their say, and whistleblowers can wither come forward, or provide evidence in other ways. The commission then will outline recommendations for restructuring. The agency is a failure, and in its current state - a serious menace. It cannot exist in its current form.

Posted by: runner at October 04, 2022 04:51 PM (V13WU)

325 What is the difference between the Nuremberg Trials and the J6th COmmittee and those trumped up impeachment votes?
Posted by: Nevergiveup

Nuremberg: crimes committed.
J6 committee: not so much.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 04, 2022 04:42 PM (BIKbQ)



Well I meant the Nuremberg Trials the Nazi's held

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 04, 2022 04:51 PM (dO/0d)

326 Did anyone ever explain how the man who was verbally attacking the family and little boy was intimidated?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at October 04, 2022 04:51 PM (o1GgP)

327 Morse Code for your butthole. It's not like you need an enigma machine down there.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 04, 2022 04:48 PM


More like an enema machine?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2022 04:51 PM (a3Q+t)

328 DC like commissions. They should get one.

Posted by: runner at October 04, 2022 04:52 PM (V13WU)

329 (thanks, Adolf!).
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My astrologer did not position me for success.

More meth!!!

Posted by: zombie you know who at October 04, 2022 04:52 PM (yikp0)

330 terrorism by the state was an idea that Lenin was obsessed with

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 04, 2022 04:52 PM (8oyo2)

331 Yup, Eyatt ERP. It’s your parental duty to take your kid to Pride parades, pussy hat marches, etc. but omg an abortion protest? Child endangerment.

And more seriously: if he were taking his kid to PP for trans hormones, the pull or an abortion he would be lauded by the same people blaming him for his kid getting harassed.

Posted by: lizzy at October 04, 2022 04:52 PM (I/doM)

332 Planned Parenthood also distributes condems and birth control with higher failure rates than all other products.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at October 04, 2022 04:43 PM (oF9jz)

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You think we got money for 2 ply condoms? 1 ply is plenty good for the plebes.

Posted by: Planned Parenthood at October 04, 2022 04:52 PM (zL564)

333 310 If you dig around, you will find a picture of a couple of US military observers UNDERNEATH an airburst nuke from the 50's. They were certainly zapped with some xrays but I think almost all of them lived to a ripe old age. Here is the NPR story with pix https://tinyurl.com/5f4nvn5h
Posted by: whig
______________

My father was one of them. He was in the USMC Test Unit (ca. 1954, IIRC) that exploded a small nuke in the desert to see how protective trenches etc. were. He came down with thyroid cancer in 1956, had his thyroid removed, and lived to be 87.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Brave guy. I prefer to be somewhere else if a nuke sets off. That being said, in the test above, the troops are not wearing protective gear and the nuke was set off at 18500 ft altitude above them and was a 2 kiloton blast.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 04:52 PM (CXr4y)

334 I get that everyone here is 29, but morse code, motherfucker, do you speak it?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 04, 2022 04:49 PM (IyrhE)
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Thank you for the kind comment, but even with Morse code, it would take a while to transmit an appropriately detailed message.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 04, 2022 04:52 PM (YqDXo)

335 Did anyone ever explain how the man who was verbally attacking the family and little boy was intimidated?
Posted by: Moron Robbie

I'll ask the next question... since when is intimidation a federal crime?

Posted by: MkY at October 04, 2022 04:52 PM (cPGH3)

336 Did anyone ever explain how the man who was verbally attacking the family and little boy was intimidated?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at October 04, 2022 04:51 PM (o1GgP)

I think the guy was calling him a fag or something similar

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 04, 2022 04:52 PM (M+Lyo)

337 Historically the Russian army has been appallingly bad.

"You see, killbots have a preset kill limit "Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them until they reached their limit and shut down."

-- Captain Zap Branigan explains Russian infantry tactics

Posted by: brak at October 04, 2022 04:52 PM (j5Tg0)

338 But the performance of the Russian army has been so abysmal that they're advancing anyways.
Posted by: Tom Servo

And you know that how?
By what you read. I don't believe any of it. And I take Voxday with a heaping helping of salt, but read the quotes on his site.
Posted by: MkY at October 04, 2022 04:49 PM (cPGH3)


I have. And Karl Denninger at Market Ticker. But the aggregate of information I've absorbed--which could admittedly be wrong--is telling me that this war is in fact going very badly for Putin.

Posted by: Dr. T at October 04, 2022 04:52 PM (bhRsz)

339 "When a Republican president takes over in 2025, he needs to create a commission"

Oh, there will be commissions. And studies. And task forces. And advisory boards. And thousands of new fed jobs created to run them. Don't worry; we got you covered.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 04:53 PM (24fqN)

340 And you know that how?
By what you read. I don't believe any of it. And I take Voxday with a heaping helping of salt, but read the quotes on his site.
Posted by: MkY at October 04, 2022 04:49 PM (cPGH3)

it was on youtube !!

Posted by: runner at October 04, 2022 04:53 PM (V13WU)

341
Historically the Russian army has been appallingly bad. Even in WWII, they only won because of their enormous numbers, and the Krauts' strategic blunders (thanks, Adolf!).
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 04, 2022 04:49 PM (YqDXo)

___________

And 18 million tons of Lend-Lease.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2022 04:53 PM (1Nxff)

342 I don't know about yall, but for me any buzzing around up in there is gonna make me want to hit the head.

Posted by: fd 6.2.08 at October 04, 2022 04:53 PM (sn5EN)

343 Brave guy. I prefer to be somewhere else if a nuke sets off. That being said, in the test above, the troops are not wearing protective gear and the nuke was set off at 18500 ft altitude above them and was a 2 kiloton blast.
Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 04:52 PM (CXr4y)

Time, distance, and shielding are the only protections from radiation.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 04:53 PM (UuD2k)

344 The Process Is The Punishment.

Posted by: Unclezip at October 04, 2022 04:53 PM (IKesM)

345 A war between two nations both run by women would be at once set off for the most trivial reason that no one would discuss and fought with the bitterest intensity for the longest time.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

This. BF of over 30 yrs hasn't spoken to me since Feb. because I wouldn't return something she gave me 20+ yrs ago. Whatever. Guess she was never really a friend.

Posted by: Infidel at October 04, 2022 04:54 PM (Ur3ox)

346 "326 Did anyone ever explain how the man who was verbally attacking the family and little boy was intimidated?"

Love to see video, if any. I heard the parties had tussled more than once.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 04:54 PM (24fqN)

347 So the man who was comfortable repeatedly attacking a child felt intimidated?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at October 04, 2022 04:54 PM (o1GgP)

348 I get that everyone here is 29, but morse code, motherfucker, do you speak it?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 04, 2022 04:49 PM


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Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 04, 2022 04:54 PM (a3Q+t)

349 The SJW a**holes have claimed another skin suit.

Scooby-Doo's Velma is officially out as a lesbian and will have a "love interest" in the next TV special, whenever that is.

Not that much of a surprise, really, but still.

Posted by: Dr. T at October 04, 2022 04:54 PM (bhRsz)

350 How'd he know the other guy was cheating? The silly grin

Posted by: MkY at October 04, 2022 04:54 PM (cPGH3)

351 so I think that chess kid uses a chess engine basically - AI. he was caught cheating on remote games (live streamed) and subsequently banned.

what the WSJ article is about is the longer term Chess.com report on his play/behavior and it is very suss. but no, they don't have physical evidence of his cheating in in person matches they did not search him bodily. but the "trend" in his play looks very off. based on the data they look at - most likely he cheated.

he may or may not be banned permanently I guess they're deciding. but I mean I think he's a cheater, yeah. his attitude, his repeated lying ... he cheated and lied repeatedly ... he's got a bad habit. and being Gen Z he probably thinks using a chess engine and whatever "system" he created counts as "work" and he's not even cheating, really! (I have sons can you tell?!?!)

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2022 04:55 PM (w0NJk)

352 Margot Cleveland, The Federalist and the Thomas More Society --all are worthy of praise and support.

Posted by: LASue at October 04, 2022 04:55 PM (Ed8Zd)

353 Scooby-Doo's Velma is officially out as a lesbian and will have a "love interest" in the next TV special, whenever that is."

We couldn't keep it a secret any longer.

Posted by: Scrappy Doo at October 04, 2022 04:55 PM (sn5EN)

354 And 18 million tons of Lend-Lease.
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And a bombing campaign over Germany that kept alot of 88s on antiaircraft duty back home.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 04, 2022 04:56 PM (yikp0)

355 I don't know if anybody else has said this, but I don't want to hear anymore about supporting the good, stalwart, honest ham'n'eggers. If they follow these odious orders, they are just as evil and culpable as Garland.

Posted by: butch at October 04, 2022 04:56 PM (cHvOo)

356 The war is going very badly for Ukraine. They are not getting that 20% of post Soviet territory back that they lost "winning" this conflict. The propaganda will spin this village and that village, since certain parties need the narrative for ongoing sanctions, but...facts on the ground.

Posted by: runner at October 04, 2022 04:56 PM (V13WU)

357 Brave guy. I prefer to be somewhere else if a nuke sets off. That being said, in the test above, the troops are not wearing protective gear and the nuke was set off at 18500 ft altitude above them and was a 2 kiloton blast.
Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 04:52 PM (CXr4y)
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He had orders. The Test Unit also was involved in testing for the introduction of helicopters to the Marine Corps.

As a little kid I remember seeing the frontispiece to the Guidebook for Marines, which had a color photo of a small mushroom cloud in the background, with troops in the foreground, from the Test Unit's experiments.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 04, 2022 04:56 PM (YqDXo)

358 If I have it right the old guy ( 71ish) was picking on the kid ( 12 abouts)

Posted by: Skip at October 04, 2022 04:56 PM (xhxe8)

359 353 Scooby-Doo's Velma is officially out as a lesbian and will have a "love interest" in the next TV special, whenever that is."

Oh yeah.. I'll be watching that....

Posted by: It's me donna at October 04, 2022 04:56 PM (bs+z0)

360 I hope when Trump gets the presidency back he picks a good guy to lead the investigative commissions.

Maybe Chris Wray will be available?

Posted by: jwest at October 04, 2022 04:56 PM (/BlEx)

361
"Stop looking at my eastern provinces!"
"What would you know about keeping them happy?"
"Bitch!"
"Whore!"

*mushroom clouds*

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2022 04:56 PM (1Nxff)

362 The SJW a**holes have claimed another skin suit.

Scooby-Doo's Velma is officially out as a lesbian and will have a "love interest" in the next TV special, whenever that is.

Not that much of a surprise, really, but still.
Posted by: Dr. T at October 04, 2022 04:54 PM (bhRsz)

Those glasses. That haircut. That shapeless sweater. That she's a lesbian is far from a revelation.

Posted by: LASue at October 04, 2022 04:56 PM (Ed8Zd)

363 And you know that how?
By what you read. I don't believe any of it. And I take Voxday with a heaping helping of salt, but read the quotes on his site.
Posted by: MkY at October 04, 2022 04:49 PM (cPGH3)

what I've been doing the last month or so is carefully watching day to day prediction of locations and actions, and then see if they are borne out. A set of milbloggers (mostly east european, I think) were exactly right about the scope, method, and timing of the Lyman operation. So i think their explanation of the situation is worth a little bit of credit. One observation that was repeated often; Moscow is extremely worried about losing Kherson, and in order to keep the Kherson front supplied, they were stripping the northern areas of equipment and supplies, as well as refusing to send any reinforcements. That's a big reason that the Ukes are advancing so quickly now into Luhansk.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2022 04:56 PM (trdmm)

364 Fascist
Bastard
Invertebrates

Posted by: Joe Mama at October 04, 2022 04:56 PM (WmGrA)

365 I don't know about yall, but for me any buzzing around up in there is gonna make me want to hit the head.
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That's how they caught the guy!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 04, 2022 04:57 PM (yikp0)

366 *Queen to King's level three*

*shart*

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 04, 2022 04:57 PM (z+OQR)

367 We'll go broke bankrupt before Zelenskyy beats Putin.

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2022 04:57 PM (v0R5T)

368 You have to have infantry to secure the gains that armor makes in this sort of battleground....
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Why don't the Russians go with the "armored idea"? Turn the massed tanks loose to spread havoc as far and deep as possible in the rear. Screw the flanks and let the infantry clean up after morale collapses.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 04, 2022 04:57 PM (SIZS3)

369 Scooby-Doo's Velma is officially out as a lesbian and will have a "love interest" in the next TV special, whenever that is."


there's enough Rule 34 of her and Daphne out there for a whole series of TV specials

Posted by: brak at October 04, 2022 04:57 PM (j5Tg0)

370 If I have it right the old guy ( 71ish) was picking on the kid ( 12 abouts)
Posted by: Skip at October 04, 2022 04:56 PM (xhxe


Yes, I think that's right. Either calling the kid or his dad a "fag."

Where's the LBGUSD+QUEA&$ outrage about this?

Posted by: LASue at October 04, 2022 04:58 PM (Ed8Zd)

371 They should have made the deal in February, kept those areas autonomous and enshrined neutrality into law. Instead...they got what they got - nothing. What did they get so far ? what did Ukraine win in the last 6 months ?

Posted by: runner at October 04, 2022 04:58 PM (V13WU)

372 367 We'll go broke bankrupt before Zelenskyy beats Putin.
Posted by: wth at October 04, 2022 04:57 PM (v0R5T)

Somebody should write a book about a war that just goes on forever.

Posted by: jwest at October 04, 2022 04:58 PM (/BlEx)

373 Well I meant the Nuremberg Trials the Nazi's held
Posted by: Nevergiveup

I can't find that the Nazi's had trials there... they had rallies in Nuremberg.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 04, 2022 04:59 PM (njO+s)

374 Why don't the Russians go with the "armored idea"? Turn the massed tanks loose to spread havoc as far and deep as possible in the rear. Screw the flanks and let the infantry clean up after morale collapses.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 04, 2022 04:57 PM (SIZS3)

infantry carried anti tank weapons are now far too lethal for that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2022 04:59 PM (trdmm)

375 What did they get so far ? what did Ukraine win in the last 6 months ?
Posted by: runner at October 04, 2022 04:58 PM (V13WU)

An obscene amount of Our dollars and a lot of celebrity face time for Zalenski

Posted by: It's me donna at October 04, 2022 04:59 PM (bs+z0)

376 They just do pap smears, man.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022 04:19 PM (LvTSG)

And mammograms- oh wait, no they don't. No machines...

Posted by: sal at October 04, 2022 05:00 PM (y40tE)

377 Scooby-Doo's Velma is officially out as a lesbian and will have a "love interest" in the next TV special, whenever that is.
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Already been done.

So I heard from a friend overheard. From a stranger. Talking on a bus.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 04, 2022 05:00 PM (yikp0)

378 Scooby-Doo's Velma is officially out as a lesbian and will have a "love interest" in the next TV special, whenever that is.

***

I'm glad we're at the necrophilia stage of trying to keep Boomer pop culture alive.

That means at some point it'll finally stop.

Posted by: Azathoth at October 04, 2022 05:00 PM (wb1YC)

379 Thanks T Servo.
I'm still thinking that the Russkies aren't the inept planners and military our side seems to think.
I believe this will end with the coveted areas belonging to Russia, Putin still in charge, and Russia the richer by far after it's all said and done.

Posted by: MkY at October 04, 2022 05:00 PM (cPGH3)

380 Yes, I think that's right. Either calling the kid or his dad a "fag."


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That's not an act of intimidation, though.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at October 04, 2022 05:00 PM (o1GgP)

381 Scooby-Doo's Velma is officially out as a lesbian and will have a "love interest" in the next TV special, whenever that is."
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Why would they do that on a show for kids?

Narrator - They are doing this precisely because it's a show for kids.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 04, 2022 05:00 PM (fs1hN)

382 The FBI must be defunded. There is no longer any question. There is no longer any argument.

Right there with you, but I fear there will be dire consequences for this. Which is why no one has dared try it.

Maybe I am in tinfoil hat territory, but after the last 5 years of this shit, I see everything different now. I watched Oliver Stone's Revisiting JFK documentary the other day, where they have even more unclassified documents reviewed. And one thing stuck with me from it.

Where they describe Kennedy as trying to disrupt the establishment. And talked about how he was so angry with the CIA for lying to him that he defunded them. And then they had him assassinated.

That was 50 years ago. And the CIA and FBI have committed numerous other atrocities against American citizens since then. I bet every President and elected official knows the consequences of trying to defund any 3-letter agency is to be JFK'd.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 04, 2022 05:00 PM (Do5/p)

383 Now we have to watch a trillion dollars go up in smoke by some village no one can find on a map. While Russia has full control of Donbas coal basin.

Posted by: runner at October 04, 2022 05:01 PM (V13WU)

384 39 "When a Republican president takes over in 2025, he needs to create a commission"

Oh, there will be commissions. And studies. And task forces. And advisory boards. And thousands of new fed jobs created to run them. Don't worry; we got you covered.
Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 04:53 PM (24fqN)

Cut the employee population in the fed government by 50% and a vast amount of this bullshit would stop.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 04, 2022 05:01 PM (BdMk6)

385 362 we used to have Tomboys. My guess is a good Rodgering is in order.)

Posted by: Quint at October 04, 2022 05:01 PM (87M+Q)

386 An obscene amount of Our dollars and a lot of celebrity face time for Zalenski
Posted by: It's me donna at October 04, 2022 04:59 PM (bs+z0)


Zelenskyy will end up in London some day.

Posted by: runner at October 04, 2022 05:01 PM (V13WU)

387 ... and Russia the richer by far after it's all said and done.

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Not to mention the billions flowing into the Ukrainian oligarchs and Biden crime family.

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 04, 2022 05:02 PM (7qCt3)

388 193 What is a 'ham n' egger'. ?
Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornistan at October 04, 2022 04:15 PM (f9EM2)

It's another name for the FBI-I guess it's a take on the idea that they're all straight arrow, on the level guys eating the normal breakfast of ham and eggs.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 04:22 PM (vH/6k)
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Do they have a problem with eating bacon?

Posted by: Ciampino - beefsteak & eggs is a great bteakfast at October 04, 2022 05:02 PM (qfLjt)

389 Why don't the Russians go with the "armored idea"? Turn the massed tanks loose to spread havoc as far and deep as possible in the rear. Screw the flanks and let the infantry clean up after morale collapses.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 04, 2022 04:57 PM (SIZS3)

Armor maneuvering in the open without infantry support vs. man-portable anti-tank weapons = lots of busted tanks and dead russkies.

Posted by: ballistic at October 04, 2022 05:02 PM (oXNqT)

390 Somebody should write a book about a war that just goes on forever.
Posted by: jwest

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I'd read it if it incorporated some clever hard science of time dilation.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at October 04, 2022 05:02 PM (o1GgP)

391 Scooby Doo started in 1969 when the LBG crowd was not high profile. Now I doubt many kids back then were thinking that Velma was a lesbian, just that she was a chunky, smart girl in glasses-the contrast to the other girl Daphne. But now every damn cartoon character has to have a sexual orientation which is obvious.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 05:03 PM (vH/6k)

392 Clyde... you're right.
And tell me who can isolate and maintain all the blackmail the various agencies have amassed?
Who becomes the keeper?
I think virtually every politician has been compromised by at least one of those 3 letter agencies.
What, if you're the good guy, do you do with that?

Posted by: MkY at October 04, 2022 05:03 PM (cPGH3)

393 318 I think that's it; Ukraine shouldn't really be a contender in this fight, they appear hopelessly outmanned. But the performance of the Russian army has been so abysmal that they're advancing anyways.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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The totals involved in operations in the Ukraine are not that disparate and then you include the nostrum that the offensive needs to concentrate 2 to 3 times more than the defenders of a point in order for a reasonable chance of success in breaking through lines.

While the Russian military is large, the actual number as in the US of the tip of the spear for ground combat is a much smaller percentage. This is why both the Ukrainians and the Russians have probably been using up their infantry at an unsustainable rate until they get new trained troops.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 05:03 PM (CXr4y)

394 377 Scooby-Doo's Velma is officially out as a lesbian and will have a "love interest" in the next TV special, whenever that is.
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Already been done.

So I heard from a friend overheard. From a stranger. Talking on a bus.
Posted by: andycanuck
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Saw,,,,uh,,,,,heard about that too.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 04, 2022 05:03 PM (sAmhv)

395 I bet every President and elected official knows the consequences of trying to defund any 3-letter agency is to be JFK'd.
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They have six ways til Sunday of getting back at you.
- Chuck U Schumer

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 04, 2022 05:03 PM (fs1hN)

396 What did they get so far ? what did Ukraine win in the last 6 months ?
Posted by: runner at October 04, 2022 04:58 PM (V13WU)

what did the US win in the first 6 months of 1942?

but to answer your question, as of today, they have won back all of Kharkiv Oblast, which the Russians had taken, and they are advancing rapidly into Luhansk Oblast, into areas that Russia took back in 2014.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2022 05:04 PM (trdmm)

397 Everyone knows Velma isn't a lesbian. A pent up sexual dynamo that no one expects? Sure. But a lesbian? That's absurd.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at October 04, 2022 05:04 PM (o1GgP)

398 I'm still thinking that the Russkies aren't the inept planners and military our side seems to think.
I believe this will end with the coveted areas belonging to Russia, Putin still in charge, and Russia the richer by far after it's all said and done.
Posted by: MkY at October 04, 2022 05:00 PM (cPGH3)
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Yeah, I dunno. The Russkies thought they'd roll over Ukraine in three days. That was back in February, so they've lost a LOT of face, and been revealed as a lot weaker than anyone thought they were.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 04, 2022 05:04 PM (YqDXo)

399 Cut the employee population in the fed government by 50% and a vast amount of this bullshit would stop.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 04, 2022 05:01 PM (BdMk6)

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You mis-typed 90%.

;-)

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 04, 2022 05:05 PM (7qCt3)

400 What is a 'ham n' egger'. ?
Posted by: Anonymous Guy

Believe it or not, it's an old boxing term.

Posted by: Azathoth at October 04, 2022 05:05 PM (wb1YC)

401 The FBI is nothing more than the armed wing of the democrat party Deep State.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at October 04, 2022 03:46 PM

I think that is more accurate. Includes Democrats and GOPe scum.

Actually, a more accurate statement might be that they are the armed wing of the WEF. Considering every Western nation government is a puppet of either the WEF, China or both.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 04, 2022 05:06 PM (Do5/p)

402 No, our generals were saying they'd run over Ukraine in three days.
I never saw a quote by a Russian saying that.Jeez, if we wanna talk inept, look at our current 4 and 5 star crop...

Posted by: MkY at October 04, 2022 05:06 PM (cPGH3)

403 Nood.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at October 04, 2022 05:06 PM (HvqEW)

404 we used to have Tomboys. My guess is a good Rodgering is in order.)
Posted by: Quint at October 04, 2022 05:01 PM


Is that you, Barnacle Bill?

Posted by: The Fair Maiden at October 04, 2022 05:06 PM (a3Q+t)

405 I remember when Scooby Doo first came out. it was part of that new wave of cheap shit crap animation.

Posted by: x at October 04, 2022 05:06 PM (ZC2go)

406 Armor maneuvering in the open without infantry support vs. man-portable anti-tank weapons = lots of busted tanks and dead russkies.
Posted by: ballistic
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I agree if the wrong area was attacked. But this started with the idea that large sections of the front are very lightly held. If secrecy could be maintained while the forces were massed, it seems unlikely that enough man-portable weapons would be in the area to stop a breakthrough.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 04, 2022 05:07 PM (SIZS3)

407 389 Why don't the Russians go with the "armored idea"? Turn the massed tanks loose to spread havoc as far and deep as possible in the rear. Screw the flanks and let the infantry clean up after morale collapses.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
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One, they have serious maintenance issues and many of those tanks listed in publications are not actually ready for battle. We have some of the same issues btw. The second is that all of the Russian designs use an autoloader and that makes them particularly vulnerable to top down attacks because you leverage the shells in the autoloader with the explosives of the missile. Kind of like hitting an ammo dump in small scale.

The US, British, and other Western anti-tank weapons were specifically designed to take advantage of the Russian tanks weaknesses and so are very lethal to Russian tanks.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 05:07 PM (CXr4y)

408 Cut the employee population in the fed government by 50% and a vast amount of this bullshit would stop.

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You mis-typed 90%.

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I love that this notion of drastically reducing the size and scope of government in individual's lives is now presented as fascism.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - don't ask me to accept what you are when you refused to accept what you are at October 04, 2022 05:07 PM (o1GgP)

409 >>I think that's it; Ukraine shouldn't really be a contender in this fight, they appear hopelessly outmanned. But the performance of the Russian army has been so abysmal that they're advancing anyways.

Russia isn't just fighting Ukraine. They are fighting tens of billions of western weapons and intel. Take them away and the war ends in a couple days.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 04, 2022 05:08 PM (ZLI7S)

410 I remember when Scooby Doo first came out. it was part of that new wave of cheap shit crap animation.
Posted by: x at October 04, 2022 05:06 PM (ZC2go)

The Archies pioneered that shit.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 04, 2022 05:08 PM (mR6Gs)

411 More of our Tax Dollars at work.

Posted by: ... at October 04, 2022 03:48 PM

Was it our tax dollars which paid for this operation or did Biden's wallet foot the bill this time?

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 04, 2022 05:08 PM (Do5/p)

412 No, our generals were saying they'd run over Ukraine in three days.
I never saw a quote by a Russian saying that.Jeez, if we wanna talk inept, look at our current 4 and 5 star crop...
Posted by: MkY at October 04, 2022 05:06 PM (cPGH3)
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Oh, OK. Didn't know that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 04, 2022 05:09 PM (YqDXo)

413 I agree if the wrong area was attacked. But this started with the idea that large sections of the front are very lightly held. If secrecy could be maintained while the forces were massed, it seems unlikely that enough man-portable weapons would be in the area to stop a breakthrough.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
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I left out the old fashioned way of taking out massed tanks which is plain dumb artillery shells plus the West and Ukraine have pretty good intel where the Russians simply cannot gather enough tanks to make a breakthrough without being cutoff and destroyed. You have to have infantry to exploit any breakthrough.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 05:10 PM (CXr4y)

414 What did they get so far ? what did Ukraine win in the last 6 months ?
Posted by: runner at October 04, 2022 04:58 PM (V13WU)

An obscene amount of Our dollars and a lot of celebrity face time for Zalenski AND HIS WIFE.
Posted by: It's me donna at October 04, 2022 04:59 PM (bs+z0)
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minor addendum

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2022 05:10 PM (v0R5T)

415 Yeah, I dunno. The Russkies thought they'd roll over Ukraine in three days. That was back in February, so they've lost a LOT of face, and been revealed as a lot weaker than anyone thought they were.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 04, 2022 05:04 PM (YqDXo)

Russia could have eliminated Ukraine in 3 days if that was the goal, but it wasn't. Putin wanted to stop the NATO talk and figured he could liberate the ethnically Russian eastern territories in the process. In a sane world, Ukraine would have been forced to the table in a few days and a deal would have been struck. However, the CIA had different plans and the media decided it was better to back Biden by lying about Ukraine's background.

After the Afghanistan debacle, who would have thought that the U.S. public would go along with spending hundreds of billions on a new never-ending war?

Posted by: jwest at October 04, 2022 05:10 PM (/BlEx)

416 I believe this will end with the coveted areas belonging to Russia, Putin still in charge, and Russia the richer by far after it's all said and done.
Posted by: MkY at October 04, 2022 05:00 PM (cPGH3)

What I find most interesting currently is coming from Russian Government sources; there is now extremely vicious infighting going on from various part of the military apparatus. The head of the mercs, a close personal friend of Putin, said publicly over the weekend that the General's in charge were failures who should be stripped of their ranks and sent into combat barefoot with only a machine gun. The generals countered and are saying the Mercs are using their wealth to strip the army of desperately needed supplies. If things get worse, I can see a power struggle breaking out in Moscow. Not a revolution, just different parts of the Army staff having a knock down drag out over who's gonna be in charge.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 04, 2022 05:10 PM (trdmm)

417 I can't find that the Nazi's had trials there... they had rallies in Nuremberg.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 04, 2022 04:59 PM (njO+s)


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_trials

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at October 04, 2022 05:12 PM (ZSK0i)

418 Side to the side note. The church was filled with mostly women

Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan MFers at October 04, 2022 03:49 PM

Sounds like a Wicker Man mass. Was there honey involved?

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 04, 2022 05:12 PM (Do5/p)

419 This war isn't going to stop until either the P guy or the Z guy is gone, one way or another.

Posted by: pawn at October 04, 2022 05:14 PM (kYVzH)

420 These people lose their minds when anyone proposes a quarter of a percentage point cut spread out over a decade for a government agency no one has ever heard of.

Imagine the "draconian" nightmare that would befall this nation of anyone dared put forth a spending bill that cut out the FBI?
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 04, 2022 04:41 PM (KbCG3)

My definition of a Ponzi scheme is anything that must either grow or break badly. Intentions, like the shitty myopic bad-attitude good intentions of these people, are irrelevant.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 04, 2022 05:14 PM (44ww/)

421 Russia isn't just fighting Ukraine. They are fighting tens of billions of western weapons and intel. Take them away and the war ends in a couple days.

Posted by: JackStraw
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Not so sure about it now. Putin's political strategy is contra to what is needed militarily and was similar to US strategy in Vietnam, etc. You want to fight a war, it best be total or you risk losing.

The Russians desperately need to regroup, resupply, and reequip their front lines but the Ukrainian offensives prevent that in the west around Kherson and now apparently in the northern sector of the Donbas. All the blather about the huge number of Russians conscripted ignores the fact that it will take time to train and equip them--they may take the field next year but depending on facts on the ground, that may be too late.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 05:15 PM (CXr4y)

422 FIB delenda est.

Posted by: setnaffa at October 04, 2022 05:16 PM (Iv2Hz)

423
lol @ "Cecil" the Youtuber in the sidebar!

Cecil is funny.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at October 04, 2022 05:19 PM (57dQ0)

424 And you know that how?
By what you read. I don't believe any of it. And I take Voxday with a heaping helping of salt, but read the quotes on his site.
Posted by: MkY at October 04, 2022 04:49 PM (cPGH3)
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We know that because Putin asked for Troops from China (turned down) - they then put out conscription notices for 300,000 troops, and thousands of 20-30 year old men started fleeing the country.

It's not going well.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 04, 2022 05:20 PM (xWZcb)

425 416 I believe this will end with the coveted areas belonging to Russia, Putin still in charge, and Russia the richer by far after it's all said and done.
Posted by: MkY
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The areas most productive like the steelworks and coal mines are largely damaged or destroyed. The farmland is marginal and Putin gains another duplicate port on the Black Sea. This is not the road to riches and in fact represents a huge sucking fiscal wound to the Russians if they try to rebuild. Don't think anyone has published much on oil or gas reserves so maybe there is that but every day the Russians are cut off from Western expertise in running their oil fields, those risk breakdown. Venezuela's collapse in oil production is what ultimately happens in that case.

So, I don't really see the average people of Ukraine nor Russia gaining anything if all economically from this war but losing a lot from it.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 05:22 PM (CXr4y)

426 We know that because Putin asked for Troops from China (turned down) - they then put out conscription notices for 300,000 troops, and thousands of 20-30 year old men started fleeing the country.

It's not going well.

Posted by: Black JEM
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Was not China but Kazakhstan and some of the other Central Asian republics. Kazakhstan was unique though as the Russians sent troops to help the current ruler out from an apparent US led color invasion about the time of the Ukraine operation.

The US really has some stupid individuals in the State Dept.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 05:24 PM (CXr4y)

427 I'm still thinking that the Russkies aren't the inept planners and military our side seems to think.
I believe this will end with the coveted areas belonging to Russia, Putin still in charge, and Russia the richer by far after it's all said and done.
Posted by: MkY at October 04, 2022 05:00 PM (cPGH3)
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Probably - though they are probably going to lose a bit of the Donbass to try and hold some of the south, and Crimea isn't all that safe as I have had it described to me, which is why the northern areas were stripped to reinforce southern forces. The Russians are pretty much bottled up in the south, with no way to get supply and troops over the river down there.

The are not logisticians at all.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 04, 2022 05:26 PM (xWZcb)

428 No, our generals were saying they'd run over Ukraine in three days.
I never saw a quote by a Russian saying that.Jeez, if we wanna talk inept, look at our current 4 and 5 star crop...
Posted by: MkY at October 04, 2022 05:06 PM (cPGH3)
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But their attack on Kiev kind of indicated they thought it would be easy but they forgot to bring gas for their columns and flew their best units into the airport and lost them all.

They still are much bigger than Ukraine. I have to think they could overwhelm them - but it is not so easy based upon the way they run supply. No railhead - no supplies.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 04, 2022 05:31 PM (xWZcb)

429 Was not China but Kazakhstan and some of the other Central Asian republics. Kazakhstan was unique though as the Russians sent troops to help the current ruler out from an apparent US led color invasion about the time of the Ukraine operation.

The US really has some stupid individuals in the State Dept.
Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 05:24 PM (CXr4y)
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I actually read he asked China for troops - and other things. They said Putin could agree to sell them raw materials at a discount.

Posted by: Black JEM at October 04, 2022 05:36 PM (xWZcb)

430 Ace, I've seen a lot of stories about the raid on, and arrest of, Mr. Houck. None of them -- literally zero -- have asked, wondered, or mentioned anything at all about the status of Mr. Houck.

How is he? Where is he? Is he free on bond? Is he in DC Gulag being tortured by BLM prison guards? Who knows? Apparently either nobody knows or I missed it in the fine print somewhere.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at October 04, 2022 05:40 PM (YJwUM)

431 Just searched even this 400+ comment thread for Houck.

Sucks that nobody even wonders how or where he is.

I've never seen anyone ask. Anywhere.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at October 04, 2022 05:44 PM (YJwUM)

432 Sounds like a Wicker Man mass. Was there honey involved?
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 04, 2022 05:12 PM (Do5/p)

"THE BEES!!"

Posted by: Nic Cage at October 04, 2022 07:08 PM (AbL8c)

433 Some day stating "I was only following orders" will not be a sufficient defense. May 31st 1962 Proved that.

Posted by: EllaMentary at October 04, 2022 07:35 PM (ijPk0)

434 And what are you going to do about it?

Oh yeah: you're going to hare off to the new thread and post a comment every five seconds there. Literally faster than human beings can read and understand them.

Until another thread gets posted, at which point you'll switch again.

And again.

It is not possible to have a rational conversation in this system. It is therefore pointless to bring up any serious issues. It's just theater on your part.

Posted by: rold at October 04, 2022 10:33 PM (idceM)

435 If you cared, you would make it possible to actually discuss the issue and potential approaches to resolving it, here on this website thingy where you have all the infrastructure needed to implement discussions.

But you don't do that.

Because you don't want to solve anything.

You just want to whine.

Posted by: rold at October 04, 2022 10:33 PM (idceM)

436 The fact that the topic was brought up 6 hours ago does not invalidate any further necessity of discussing it.

It should be discussed for days. Weeks. Months, probably - a thing like this is not changed easily.

But you have no attention span and, more importantly, you realize your audience has no attention span. So you go through empty motions.

You're a fake.

Posted by: rold at October 04, 2022 10:36 PM (idceM)

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