Politico: Ron DeSantis Opposes Joe Biden's Agenda, But Then He Asks For Money Out of "Joe Biden's Wallet"


From Twitchy, a real winner from the Real Journalists at Poltico. This is specifically from Matt Dixon's mouth.


TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Gov. Ron DeSantis has been a persistent critic of President Joe Biden on nearly every policy front as he moves toward a likely potential 2024 presidential bid. But the Florida Republican likes one thing about the president: his wallet.

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Florida is now poised to benefit from billions of dollars in additional federal assistance to grapple with the devastating damage left by Hurricane Ian, which could bring a staggering $40 billion of insured losses.

Mary Katharine Ham

@mkhammer

"The president's wallet?"

Apparently Biden's dementia is going viral among his most devoted zombie cultists.

Zaid Jilani
@ZaidJilani

Should Gavin Newsom have turned down all federal budget money when Trump was president? This is a weird story.

It's not a story, it's a bylined political attack ad.

Tom Elliott

@tomselliott

Wow did you guys know Biden's wallet has more than $10 trillion in it? Incredible reporting here from Politico.


Christina Pushaw

@ChristinaPushaw

What is wrong with you? It's not "the president's wallet". It is American taxpayers' money.

Americans in any state hit by a disaster are entitled to federal disaster relief funds, whether or not you approve of the governor.

The media disgusts me more every day.

Christina Pushaw

@ChristinaPushaw

Why is my money in the president's wallet to begin with? This is 3rd world dictatorship stuff.

It is. But we're the "fascists."

DeSantis War Room
@DeSantisWarRoom

"Biden has been a critic of DeSantis on nearly every policy front. But he sure does like collecting federal taxes from Floridians."

[pink clown emoji]
@Mdixon55 has outdone himself with this.

We'll keep this in mind when we control the government.

Enough of this "president of all of America" bullshit. It's a lie and we must no longer live with lies. It's time for the truth, no matter how ugly or brutal that may be.

Posted by: Ace at 02:33 PM




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1 How about this:

End FEMA and let individual states use those funds to create their own state-level EMAs?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022 02:34 PM (LvTSG)

2 How did all that money from Florida Federal income taxes end up in Joe Biden's wallet?

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 02:34 PM (ayzS/)

3 taxpayer's money = "Joe's Wallet"

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at October 04, 2022 02:34 PM (y8NK7)

4 Tom Elliott

@tomselliott
Wow did you guys know Biden's wallet has more than $10 trillion in it? Incredible reporting here from Politico.

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It's good to be the king.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022 02:34 PM (LvTSG)

5 Jill, the chinaman stole my wallet again.

Posted by: Joe Biden at October 04, 2022 02:35 PM (UuD2k)

6 It's time for the truth, no matter how ugly or brutal that may be..

O.K. Joe Biden has dementia.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 02:35 PM (vH/6k)

7 End FEMA and let individual states use those funds to create their own state-level EMAs?


lol great plan. will get rid of states like Lousiana pretty quicklike

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2022 02:35 PM (w0NJk)

8 End FEMA and let individual states use those funds to create their own state-level EMAs?

I think some states, including FL, would balk, because they are at greater risk of natural disasters, especially when they allow building on the beach. I won't defend that practice, but as long as a national FEMA exists, FL can make a claim for money.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 02:36 PM (ayzS/)

9 Look, Joe has to have that much money in his wallet, so he can convince those little girls' families not to say anything. I honestly don't know what you want from the guy.

Posted by: Dr. T at October 04, 2022 02:36 PM (bhRsz)

10 Enough of this "president of all of America" bullshit.

81 MILLION votes!

Posted by: kallisto at October 04, 2022 02:36 PM (dCxaZ)

11 6 It's time for the truth, no matter how ugly or brutal that may be..

ok here's one - the FedGov prints all the money it needs to dole out to itself and its clients. so personal taxes are purely punitive.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2022 02:36 PM (w0NJk)

12 2 How did all that money from Florida Federal income taxes end up in Joe Biden's wallet?
Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 02:34 PM (ayzS/)

David French: "The same way that the Staff of Decadence of my wife's 'friends' ended up in all her orifices - Divine Providence."

Posted by: Thrawn at October 04, 2022 02:36 PM (Rl7KJ)

13 O.K. Joe Biden has dementia.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 02:35 PM (vH/6k)

And he started with an 80 IQ and a tendency to lie to promote himself.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 02:37 PM (UuD2k)

14 81 MILLION votes!

Cast by ~60M citizens.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2022 02:37 PM (ESjRY)

15 But the politico owner cried when trump lost!!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 04, 2022 02:37 PM (t3/qz)

16 lol great plan. will get rid of states like Lousiana pretty quicklike
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2022 02:35 PM (w0NJk)

Damn. At least I live in the most northern part of Louisiana.

Posted by: Thrawn at October 04, 2022 02:37 PM (Rl7KJ)

17 The only thing in Biden's wallet is a shop worn condom thats been there since 1970.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at October 04, 2022 02:37 PM (QSjkU)

18 So there's a senile guy wandering around with 10 trillion $ in his wallet? It's a great day to be a pickpocket!

Posted by: Wally at October 04, 2022 02:37 PM (vMWVi)

19
100% for the Big Guy.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2022 02:37 PM (1Nxff)

20 181 million votes in 2024!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 04, 2022 02:38 PM (t3/qz)

21 O.K. Joe Biden has dementia.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 02:35 PM (vH/6k)


One of my NPC co-workers said she loved teh Bidet and would vote for him again, and I just blurted out:

WHAT? He's a pudding-brained clown, what's wrong with you??

and she snitched to my boss about my wrongthink

Posted by: kallisto at October 04, 2022 02:38 PM (dCxaZ)

22 It's time for the truth, no matter how ugly or brutal that may be.

Drill bits are only meant to be used in one direction.

Posted by: spindrift at October 04, 2022 02:38 PM (h5TKJ)

23 50-ish million actual votes is my guess. 60M is too high

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2022 02:38 PM (w0NJk)

24 El Presidente Wallito!

It's where he keeps that 10% for the Big Guy.

Posted by: Romeo13 at October 04, 2022 02:38 PM (oHd/0)

25 "Enough of this "president of all of America" bullshit. It's a lie and we must no longer live with lies. It's time for the truth, no matter how ugly or brutal that may be."

I knew this was true within 30 days of Baron von Lightbringer's presidency

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 04, 2022 02:38 PM (iFTx/)

26 "How much for the ice cream?" (Opens up wallet)
"Here. I'll just grab what I need."

Posted by: Wally at October 04, 2022 02:38 PM (vMWVi)

27 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2022 02:39 PM (Zz0t1)

28 It's good to be the king.

Mel's Brooks's King character wanted to make out with hot willing French women

Bruce Campbell's character wanted to make out with the hottest, and willingest, woman in Smart.

Joe Biden wants to make out with his granddaughter

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2022 02:39 PM (ESjRY)

29 Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2022 02:38 PM (w0NJk)

yeah, just prior to the election, I had a gut feeling that 55MM was teh Bidet ceiling.

Posted by: kallisto at October 04, 2022 02:39 PM (dCxaZ)

30 It's almost like they're daring states to secede, now.

It would be a shame if the spice stopped flowing to DC. Yessir, a damn shame. Especially if a whole bunch of states got together on it.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at October 04, 2022 02:39 PM (3AR13)

31 >>>It's time for the truth, no matter how ugly or brutal that may be.


Do not attempt to stop a chainsaw chain using your hands or genitals.

Posted by: Dr. T at October 04, 2022 02:39 PM (bhRsz)

32 There is my Money, and then there is our Money!

There is no your Money, you evil racist sexist homophobic Republicans.

Posted by: Democrats at October 04, 2022 02:39 PM (Z32m1)

33 $10M? That's only like 10 coins.

Posted by: Paul Krugman, boy genius at October 04, 2022 02:40 PM (ESjRY)

34
Samaritan's Purse >>> Joe Biden's Wallet

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2022 02:40 PM (1Nxff)

35 I want the truth.

You cant handle the truth.


I think that is from A Few Good Men.

But a relevant quote.

Posted by: Czech Chick at October 04, 2022 02:40 PM (haWye)

36 "We'll keep this in mind when we control the government."

Come on, this is just "vote harder!" with extra steps

Posted by: somedood at October 04, 2022 02:40 PM (7rP4D)

37 and she snitched to my boss about my wrongthink

Posted by: kallisto at October 04, 2022 02:38 PM (dCxaZ)

Sorry about the rat face-cage.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 04, 2022 02:40 PM (yHsuS)

38 Matt Dixon


You are shit. You exude shit. You smell like shit. You're made of shit.

You, sir, are a piece of shit.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2022 02:40 PM (Zz0t1)

39
Joe's Wallet?

So Joe is "The Big Guy".

Posted by: portlandon at October 04, 2022 02:40 PM (+oR7L)

40 So Joey what's in your wallet?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 04, 2022 02:41 PM (qrbVb)

41 $10T in the 'fed wallet' is exactly what every lib believes.
The money just 'is' and the libs can dip into it for their friends.

Mostly because the SC has held that taxpayers have no standing.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 04, 2022 02:41 PM (sOWoL)

42 >>>It's time for the truth, no matter how ugly or brutal that may be.


The 2020 election was stolen.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 04, 2022 02:41 PM (yHsuS)

43 and she snitched to my boss about my wrongthink
Posted by: kallisto at October 04, 2022 02:38 PM (dCxaZ)

And what-if anything did your boss do?

When Biden was elected, I told my sister-who has been out of the country since 1972-that Joe Biden had dementia and her response was "Well, as long as he has good people around him." Uggh.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 02:41 PM (vH/6k)

44 Politico, thanks for confirming Slow Joe has a slush fund he can use as he wants. What's the amount of that slush fund? How did he get it, and how and how often does he refill it?

Posted by: Gref at October 04, 2022 02:41 PM (AMIL/)

45 Remember back in April, when a couple of NYTimes reporters released a book in which they claimed Trump told some leftist Governors to "ask nicely" in order to receive federal disaster aide.

Leftists howled about that.

Now they're upset Governor DeSantis asked at all?

https://bit.ly/3rrCXRY

Posted by: bonhomme at October 04, 2022 02:41 PM (eyxn4)

46 Baghdad Bob wasn't a role model people......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2022 02:41 PM (Zz0t1)

47
One of my NPC co-workers said she loved teh Bidet and would vote for him again, and I just blurted out:


I think I would have gone with something a little more subtle.

"Yeah I hated being able to afford a cart full of groceries before Glorious Leader came to power"

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2022 02:41 PM (ESjRY)

48 So Joey what's in your wallet?

There's a condom from 1958, but Joe thinks it's a rain coat.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 02:41 PM (ayzS/)

49 You are shit. You exude shit. You smell like shit. You're made of shit.

You, sir, are a piece of shit.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2022 02:40 PM (Zz0t1)

Pile of shite, in a silk stocking...

Posted by: Col. Richard Sharpe at October 04, 2022 02:42 PM (oHd/0)

50 >>>It's time for the truth, no matter how ugly or brutal that may be.

A boy has a penis. A girl has a vagina.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 04, 2022 02:42 PM (yHsuS)

51 How much did Joey promise Puerto Rico?

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 04, 2022 02:42 PM (qrbVb)

52 It's time for the truth, no matter how ugly or brutal that may be.

Joe (or the cabal ) is completely sold out to China and probably Ukraine.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 02:42 PM (vH/6k)

53 8 End FEMA and let individual states use those funds to create their own state-level EMAs?

I think some states, including FL, would balk, because they are at greater risk of natural disasters, especially when they allow building on the beach. I won't defend that practice, but as long as a national FEMA exists, FL can make a claim for money.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 02:36 PM (ayzS/)
__________________________

The system only works when all states contribute for the benefit of a few states. Take federal flood insurance. It's a total scam. It's mandatory if you are in a flood zone. But "flood zone" doesn't mean what you think it means. There are flood zones all over the country in areas with no risk of real flooding. But if you own property there, you must pay for (expensive) flood insurance that you will never use. You are subsidizing areas like FL that are constantly flooded.

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 04, 2022 02:43 PM (iFTx/)

54 47 I think I would have gone with something a little more subtle.

"Yeah I hated being able to afford a cart full of groceries before Glorious Leader came to power"
Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2022 02:41 PM (ESjRY)

===========

"I love how corporations have sky high profits because they're so unafraid of Biden, driving inflation to levels that hurt the lower classes most. I hate those poor people."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022 02:43 PM (LvTSG)

55
Mostly because the SC has held that taxpayers have no standing.


We'll know we have a "conservative supreme court" when they declare any particular implementation of the personal income tax unconstitutional.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2022 02:43 PM (ESjRY)

56 42 >>>It's time for the truth, no matter how ugly or brutal that may be.

The 2020 election was stolen.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 04, 2022 02:41 PM (yHsuS)

Binary choice, either the election was stolen or...

Democracy has failed as a viable Model for choosing our leaders.

Posted by: Col. Richard Sharpe at October 04, 2022 02:43 PM (oHd/0)

57 I've paintaxes since almost 58 years and I'm pretty sure a lot of tax money was pissed away. Still is being pissed away.

Posted by: Eromero at October 04, 2022 02:43 PM (0OP+5)

58 "It's time for the truth, no matter how ugly or brutal that may be."

I wish.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 02:44 PM (24fqN)

59 Got to feed all those illegals somehow.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 04, 2022 02:44 PM (kIrFD)

60
You are shit. You exude shit. You smell like shit. You're made of shit.

__________

Hit the bricks, pal, and beat it 'cause you are going OUT!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2022 02:44 PM (1Nxff)

61 I think I would have gone with something a little more subtle.

Lately my filter is on "mute". I can't pretend anymore.

Posted by: kallisto at October 04, 2022 02:44 PM (dCxaZ)

62 The system only works when all states contribute for the benefit of a few states. Take federal flood insurance. It's a total scam. It's mandatory if you are in a flood zone. But "flood zone" doesn't mean what you think it means.

No, it means exactly what I thought it means. It's me subsidizing people who want a beach house, but don't want to cover the real risk of building there.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 02:44 PM (ayzS/)

63 Not yours to give:

https://fee.org/resources/not-your-to-give/

Posted by: Gridlock at October 04, 2022 02:44 PM (nGsrQ)

64 FL got hit with a massive storm. I fail to see how in the world "benefit" has anything to do with a disaster of this magnitude.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 04, 2022 02:44 PM (5pTK/)

65 42 >>>It's time for the truth, no matter how ugly or brutal that may be.

Size matters, and you're woefully lacking.

Posted by: kathysaysso at October 04, 2022 02:45 PM (m78jL)

66 Schumer just snuck a billion dollars into the CR for NY to subsidize people's energy bills. That's while Florida was getting pummeled.

Maybe Polbitemydickio can report on that.

Or how about that in 2020 for every dollar NY gave to the federal government, they got back $1.59.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 04, 2022 02:45 PM (OTvdu)

67 Luke, why is your money in Boss Joe's wallet?

Posted by: Boss Paul at October 04, 2022 02:45 PM (j40lz)

68 Did anyone see that the Norks yeeted a FUCKING NUCLEAR WEAPON OVER JAPANLAND?

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 04, 2022 02:46 PM (/Tiaw)

69 Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 04, 2022 02:42 PM (yHsuS)

and even if they get rid of their own penis or vagina they can't change their genders. You either have XY or XX chromosones. That doesn't change if you play dress up. Also, unlike what the Portland Public Schools teach there are NOT an infinite number of genders and the idea of gender was not brought to America by colonists.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 02:46 PM (vH/6k)

70 64 FL got hit with a massive storm. I fail to see how in the world "benefit" has anything to do with a disaster of this magnitude.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at October 04, 2022 02:44 PM (5pTK/)

========

The kid who breaks windows is a hero.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022 02:46 PM (LvTSG)

71 I'm sure DeSantis wishes that Florida would not have had the need to "benefit" from hurricane aid.

Posted by: Weak Geek at October 04, 2022 02:46 PM (Om/di)

72 Sky News from Australia has lots of YouTube videos making fun of Biden. They openly say he has dementia and in every video they remind people he is leader of the free world. Then laugh.

Posted by: Megthered at October 04, 2022 02:46 PM (f1xtl)

73 Willowed

Here's the DOE press release confirming that the Strategic Reserves will be drained up to election day, and then it can be Trump's fault. 9-19-22:

"WASHINGTON, D.C. — The U.S. Department of Energy’s (DOE) Office of Petroleum Reserves today announced a Notice of Sale of up to 10 million barrels of crude oil to be delivered from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR) in November 2022"

https://tinyurl.com/2qynbbu8

IIRC the sales occur and the deliveries are finalized on November 9th.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 04, 2022 02:46 PM (kIrFD)

74 It's literally the government's job to assist in the event of a natural disaster.

Secure the borders, maintain a military and assist the states.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2022 02:46 PM (Zz0t1)

75 Or how about that in 2020 for every dollar NY gave to the federal government, they got back $1.59.

Old and Busted: Those red states are all on welfare!

New Hotness: We deserve...everything...from you proles.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2022 02:46 PM (ESjRY)

76
I would like to see Brandon go meet with DeSantis, then come out with a black eye, whining about how Ron actually *took his wallet.*

I bet DeSantis would win a Presidential run by 25 points after that.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 04, 2022 02:47 PM (oINRc)

77
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The kid who breaks windows is a hero.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022 02:46 PM (LvTSG)



See? I told you.

- - Paul Krugman

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2022 02:47 PM (Zz0t1)

78 62 The system only works when all states contribute for the benefit of a few states. Take federal flood insurance. It's a total scam. It's mandatory if you are in a flood zone. But "flood zone" doesn't mean what you think it means.

No, it means exactly what I thought it means. It's me subsidizing people who want a beach house, but don't want to cover the real risk of building there.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 02:44 PM (ayzS/)
____________________

Exactly. But it's not just the beach house people. Contractors and builders make a fortune building and then rebuilding the same houses over and over. That's why we are building so much expensive shit right in the middle of known hurricane paths. It's very profitable to do so.

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 04, 2022 02:47 PM (iFTx/)

79 HOW YOU LIKE THAT EQUITY BITCHES?!!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 04, 2022 02:47 PM (kIrFD)

80 Schumer just snuck a billion dollars into the CR for NY to subsidize people's energy bills. That's while Florida was getting pummeled.

A billion dollars is just like finding coins in the couch.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 04, 2022 02:47 PM (eGTCV)

81 So the sh1twastrel from Politico wants all the brown people to suffer?

That is how I am reading it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 04, 2022 02:47 PM (qrbVb)

82 I didn't know Mary Ham was still out there.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2022 02:47 PM (Zz0t1)

83 Did anyone see that the Norks yeeted a FUCKING NUCLEAR WEAPON OVER JAPANLAND?

Old and Busted: If you elected Donald Trump as president you'll get a nuclear war.

New Hotness: A limited nuclear war would be a good thing

Posted by: The FNM at October 04, 2022 02:47 PM (ESjRY)

84 "It's time for the truth, no matter how ugly or brutal that may be."

Despite her public misandry, Lena Dunham still needs a parade of cocks passing through to fill the void(s) in her life.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at October 04, 2022 02:48 PM (3AR13)

85 Is this the spark?

I am still waiting for the spark.

I know it will be something stupid.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 04, 2022 02:48 PM (ufFY8)

86 Ace, I think the reporting is exactly how Biden sees federal money. Eventually 10% is due back to him in kickbacks. Since the DoJ has basically legalized kickbacks for the Biden Crime Family....the federal Treasury is Joe's Wallet.

Posted by: Welcome to Wokistan MFers at October 04, 2022 02:48 PM (r2ldJ)

87 Senile Tyrants - an interesting twist.

Posted by: kraken at October 04, 2022 02:48 PM (Vr12I)

88 66 Schumer just snuck a billion dollars into the CR for NY to subsidize people's energy bills. That's while Florida was getting pummeled.

Maybe Polbitemydickio can report on that.

Or how about that in 2020 for every dollar NY gave to the federal government, they got back $1.59.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 04, 2022 02:45 PM (OTvdu)

Micron Technology is going to spend $100 billion over the next 20 years to build a chip factory in upstate NY. Should create 50,000 jobs. The CEO made the announcement today - credited Biden, Schumer and the CHIPs Act by name.

MU may have just breathed new life into the Hochul campaign. The timing of the announcement wasn't coincidental.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 04, 2022 02:48 PM (9miN6)

89 The only thing in Joe's wallet is a condom, in case he unexpectedly sees family.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 04, 2022 02:48 PM (ppBhU)

90 Do Semi-Fascists and Insurrectionists have to pay taxes?

Asking for a friend. Wait, not a friend!! No need to bust down my door, Fibbies!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 04, 2022 02:48 PM (BTIKu)

91 Democrats have to save democracy by driving a Monster Truck over your face.

Only then will norms be restored. Faces can grow back after all.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at October 04, 2022 02:48 PM (DePyg)

92 It's time for the truth, no matter how ugly or brutal that may be.

"Bros" is the best that Hollywood can do these days.

And...

The McRib is also an over-rated pile o' crap.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 04, 2022 02:49 PM (KLPy8)

93 Joe Biden Is President Of All Assholes.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 04, 2022 02:49 PM (iLmHM)

94 The Pillager - In - Chief.

Posted by: kraken at October 04, 2022 02:49 PM (Vr12I)

95 The future we feared: A jack boot in the face, forever

The future we are getting: A high heeled boot worn by a 250lb man in the face, forever

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2022 02:49 PM (ESjRY)

96 89 The only thing in Joe's wallet is a condom, in case he unexpectedly sees family.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 04, 2022 02:48 PM (ppBhU)

Crapital One - It's what's in Joe's wallet.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 04, 2022 02:49 PM (9miN6)

97 We're all on this big plantation, and Papa Joe is our master.

Thanks you papa Joe. You are so benevolent.

Posted by: portlandon at October 04, 2022 02:49 PM (+oR7L)

98 Joe Biden Is President Of All Assholes.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 04, 2022 02:49 PM (iLmHM)


Hey, he's not *my* president, dammit!

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 04, 2022 02:49 PM (AiZBA)

99
The McRib is also an over-rated pile o' crap.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 04, 2022 02:49 PM (KLPy



I love that Wendy's is making fun of that.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2022 02:50 PM (Zz0t1)

100 Sorry.....Arby's.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 04, 2022 02:50 PM (Zz0t1)

101 The Vice President's wallet was the start of Hunter Biden's problems

Posted by: SMOD at October 04, 2022 02:50 PM (RHGPo)

102 The only thing in Joe's wallet is a condom, in case he unexpectedly sees family.

You don't need a condom if she doesn't bleed yet

Posted by: Joe Biden, Pedo Genius at October 04, 2022 02:50 PM (ESjRY)

103 Honestly, Joe has always been in it for The Booty.

Posted by: kraken at October 04, 2022 02:50 PM (Vr12I)

104 It's literally the government's job to assist in the event of a natural disaster.

Secure the borders, maintain a military and assist the states.


No it isn't. Please cite the part of the Constitution that specifies how many times is it my responsibility to rebuild someone's beach house.

Constitutionally there is no delegation of authority for the federal government to act as emergency funding services for the States. James Madison, father of the Constitution and 4th president declared before congress in 1792:

“I, sir, have always conceived — I believe those who proposed the Constitution conceived — it is still more fully known, and more material to observe, that those who ratified the Constitution conceived — that this is not an indefinite government, deriving its powers from the general terms prefixed to the specified powers — but a limited government, tied down to the specified powers, which explain and define the general terms.”

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 02:50 PM (ayzS/)

105 means.

No, it means exactly what I thought it means. It's me subsidizing people who want a beach house, but don't want to cover the real risk of building there.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 02:44 PM (ayzS/)
____________________

Exactly. But it's not just the beach house people. Contractors and builders make a fortune building and then rebuilding the same houses over and over. That's why we are building so much expensive shit right in the middle of known hurricane paths. It's very profitable to do so.
Posted by: Elric Blade

So where are we supposed to live? If you follow the logic here, earthquake zones and tornado alley and volcanic activity all preclude building a home or a city. Your thinking is stupid.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 04, 2022 02:50 PM (/Tiaw)

106 [looks at running printing presses] Gonna need a bigger wallet.

Posted by: Joe Biden, Wake Up at October 04, 2022 02:51 PM (xEe87)

107 It's time for the truth, no matter how ugly or brutal that may be..

O.K. Joe Biden has dementia.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 02:35 PM (vH/6k)


I'm pretty sure most of us here have had that impression for a while now.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 04, 2022 02:51 PM (z99Zw)

108 Well, Crooked Joe can afford it.

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2022 02:51 PM (v0R5T)

109 Federalism means my money stays in my state.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at October 04, 2022 02:51 PM (3Or4S)

110 Oh sure, Media Goons. NOW you're all het up about what's in the back of Biden's trousers...

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 04, 2022 02:51 PM (6FeV1)

111 Insider quoted a Facebook employee as saying that management is already telling those who are “PIP-ed” that they need to look elsewhere for work.

“It might look like they are moving on, but the reality is they are being forced out,” the employee told Insider.

.. hard times for billionaires, who knew

Posted by: SMOD at October 04, 2022 02:51 PM (RHGPo)

112 Miranda Devine takes Dementia Joe and Queen Jill apart, and leaves them in tatters on the floor.

https://tinyurl.com/5n75f9b7

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 04, 2022 02:52 PM (BTIKu)

113 It's time for the truth, no matter how ugly or brutal that may be.

Your high school sweetheart never thinks about you and is getting banged by someone who smells like a liverwurst sandwich.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 04, 2022 02:52 PM (KLPy8)

114 104 “I, sir, have always conceived — I believe those who proposed the Constitution conceived — it is still more fully known, and more material to observe, that those who ratified the Constitution conceived — that this is not an indefinite government, deriving its powers from the general terms prefixed to the specified powers — but a limited government, tied down to the specified powers, which explain and define the general terms.”
Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 02:50 PM (ayzS/)

========

One reason progressives hate Calvin Coolidge is because he refused to use federal funds to help with some disaster or other that wiped out a bunch of farmers (I think).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022 02:52 PM (LvTSG)

115 Joe's wallet is stuffed with sweet Ukranian cash.

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2022 02:52 PM (v0R5T)

116 "MU may have just breathed new life into the Hochul campaign. The timing of the announcement wasn't coincidental."

People upstate have seen this movie before. Cuomo made some of the same promises that were never delivered on. The voters are more focused on crime and the fact they can't afford anything. Not these sleight of hand tricks.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 04, 2022 02:52 PM (OTvdu)

117 Adolf Brandon Von Shartpants keeps his wallet in his back pocket. Needless to say the brown stains are numerous.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at October 04, 2022 02:52 PM (qvpzJ)

118 Pillaging Rapist in Chief

PRIC

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 04, 2022 02:53 PM (qrbVb)

119 So where are we supposed to live? If you follow the logic here, earthquake zones and tornado alley and volcanic activity all preclude building a home or a city. Your thinking is stupid.

I'm not that old, but I already see massive construction in areas that were considered "too risky" when I was younger.

Its partially because we are wealthier, and partially that we've exploded the population through immigration, but mostly because of the way government hands out money after disasters.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2022 02:53 PM (ESjRY)

120 "It's time for the truth, no matter how ugly or brutal that may be."

damn straight, ace!
the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

we are suffering under the converse of the old tag about "the truth will make you free" ... lies are enslaving us.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 04, 2022 02:53 PM (8oyo2)

121 "It's literally the government's job to assist in the event of a natural disaster."

Is that constitutional? I honestly do not know, but it sounds like mere charity to me. If it is constitutional, it implicitly insures the additional risks folx voluntarily take on to live in naturally disastrous places.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 02:53 PM (24fqN)

122 10
Enough of this "president of all of America" bullshit.

81 MILLION votes!
Posted by: kallisto at October 04, 2022 02:36 PM (dCxaZ)
........

This always makes me laugh even though I know I should be crying.

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2022 02:53 PM (v0R5T)

123 100

Posted by: Eromero at October 04, 2022 02:53 PM (0OP+5)

124 Imma ber FL sends more money to FEMA than it receives back. Florida has gobs of money. ALbama and Mississippi, not so much.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at October 04, 2022 02:53 PM (3Or4S)

125 So where are we supposed to live? If you follow the logic here, earthquake zones and tornado alley and volcanic activity all preclude building a home or a city. Your thinking is stupid.

Us stupid people generally defer to the very smart people who run private insurance companies and have calculated the true cost of building a home in any particular location, and charge the home builder accordingly.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 02:54 PM (ayzS/)

126 and she snitched to my boss about my wrongthink

Posted by: kallisto at October 04, 2022 02:38 PM (dCxaZ)

Slash her tires.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 04, 2022 02:54 PM (XIJ/X)

127 And where on earth can you completely avoid natural disasters?

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 04, 2022 02:54 PM (/Tiaw)

128 Any time we talk about inflation, Mrs DIG it I will end it with "Thanks, Biden."

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 04, 2022 02:54 PM (ufFY8)

129
ok here's one - the FedGov prints all the money it needs to dole out to itself and its clients. so personal taxes are purely punitive.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2022 02:36 PM


Exactly, it's a control mechanism over the right (or wrong) people. Nothing more.

Posted by: Bozo at October 04, 2022 02:54 PM (y3pKJ)

130 lol great plan. will get rid of states like Lousiana pretty quicklike
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2022 02:35 PM (w0NJk)


Honestly, what it would do generally is instill rationality. Without constant flooding by the Mississippi, New Orleans is destined to sink into the Gulf.

Lots of people will beat their chests and say, "I'll never leave" but why should the rest of the country pay for their stubbornness time and time again?

That having been said, everywhere in the world gets hit by something eventually.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 04, 2022 02:55 PM (z99Zw)

131 Exactly. But it's not just the beach house people. Contractors and builders make a fortune building and then rebuilding the same houses over and over. That's why we are building so much expensive shit right in the middle of known hurricane paths. It's very profitable to do so.
Posted by: Elric Blade

So where are we supposed to live? If you follow the logic here, earthquake zones and tornado alley and volcanic activity all preclude building a home or a city. Your thinking is stupid.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 04, 2022 02:50 PM (/Tiaw)
__________________

Live where you want to live. But don't ask me to help pay for rebuilding your home when your choice proves catastrophic. If you want to live in a known hurricane path, or in a known earthquake zone, then you should bear the risk. Ain't my problem.

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 04, 2022 02:55 PM (iFTx/)

132 And where on earth can you completely avoid natural disasters?

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 04, 2022 02:54 PM (/Tiaw)

Boring places.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 04, 2022 02:55 PM (yHsuS)

133 127 And where on earth can you completely avoid natural disasters?
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 04, 2022 02:54 PM (/Tiaw)

Antarctica??

Posted by: kraken at October 04, 2022 02:55 PM (Vr12I)

134 Nothing comes out of Joe's wallet, it only goes in .. in 10% kickback increments.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 04, 2022 02:56 PM (Cus5s)

135 Coming in late on Bros.

In the director's cut, the first date foursome leads to a wicked case of monkeypox for the lead Bros. The rest of the movie is shot with them having face cankers and people gingerly walking bowlegged.

The CGI'd that out, like the cat anii in Cats.

Posted by: motionview, a MAGA Republican (who supports DeSantis) at October 04, 2022 02:56 PM (469KY)

136 Quando podeces te regi eorum fecerunt?

When did the assholes make you their king?

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 04, 2022 02:56 PM (yikp0)

137 And where on earth can you completely avoid natural disasters?

You can't. That's why we have insurance.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 02:56 PM (ayzS/)

138 Mark Zuckerberg is planning to lay off up to 12,000 underperforming Facebook workers.

.. so who is replacing Mark ?

Posted by: SMOD at October 04, 2022 02:56 PM (RHGPo)

139
And where on earth can you completely avoid natural disasters?

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 04, 2022 02:54 PM


There's some place in Central America iirc where the temperature varies by only one degree. When it's 73 people say its too hot, when its 72 people say its too cold.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 04, 2022 02:56 PM (y3pKJ)

140 Honestly, what it would do generally is instill rationality. Without constant flooding by the Mississippi, New Orleans is destined to sink into the Gulf.


I was thinking more about the corrupt govt of LA stealing all the tax moneys and never updating anything and etc etc

if you're up in the north of the state you should be ok. but a lot of pain would occur before Louisiana (and other states) learned to face reality and stop being lazy and thieving.

it would probably be good in the long run but ugly for a while.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2022 02:57 PM (w0NJk)

141 I always make a point of running down and bad mouthing the area where I live.

Posted by: kraken at October 04, 2022 02:57 PM (Vr12I)

142 And where on earth can you completely avoid natural disasters?
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 04, 2022 02:54 PM (/Tiaw)


I plan on going nova soon anyway....so-

Posted by: The Sun at October 04, 2022 02:57 PM (KLPy8)

143 Mark Zuckerberg is planning to lay off up to 12,000 underperforming Facebook workers.

.. so who is replacing Mark ?
Posted by: SMOD at October 04, 2022 02:56 PM (RHGPo)


The Robot Butler?

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 04, 2022 02:57 PM (AiZBA)

144 I’ve got friends in the devastated Puerto Rican area of del vista boca!

Posted by: Joe Bidenios at October 04, 2022 02:57 PM (2QTfF)

145 And where on earth can you completely avoid natural disasters?

I think it is more relative risk.

So, for example in my town some areas are more flood prone then others.

40 years ago there were no houses there. Now there are.

I'm not suggesting Florida not get disaster money now since that is the system they paid into. But if we were a serious people we'd put caps on the money someone can get if they build in a dangerous area.

If you have a $1M beach home in an area that hurricanes hit every 10 years insurance either private or through government hand outs should be prohibitively expensive.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2022 02:57 PM (ESjRY)

146 My parents house got hit with a tornado, an earthquake, and the tail end of a hurricane all in the span of a year. There was no damage except for a small ceramic pot with a geranium in it that fell over. The pot survived. The geranium didn't make it.

Press F to mourn.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 04, 2022 02:57 PM (6FeV1)

147 Have any elected officials spoken openly about Joe's dementia?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 04, 2022 02:58 PM (eGTCV)

148 Posted by: Elric Blade at October 04, 2022 02:55 PM

"Known hurricane paths"? That describes a dozen ENTIRE STATES you'd like to see completely depopulated.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at October 04, 2022 02:58 PM (3AR13)

149 A boy has a penis. A girl has a vagina.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 04, 2022 02:42 PM (yHsuS)


A non-binary otherkin has a broken brain.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 04, 2022 02:59 PM (z99Zw)

150 One reason progressives hate Calvin Coolidge is because he refused to use federal funds to help with some disaster or other that wiped out a bunch of farmers (I think).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
-----------------
The Great Flood of 1927 of the Mississippi River. Worst hit states were Louisiana, Arkansas, and Mississippi.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 02:59 PM (CXr4y)

151 147 Have any elected officials spoken openly about Joe's dementia?


good question. of EITHER party! crickets

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2022 02:59 PM (w0NJk)

152
Micron Technology is going to spend $100 billion over the next 20 years to build a chip factory in upstate NY. Should create 50,000 jobs. The CEO made the announcement today - credited Biden, Schumer and the CHIPs Act by name.

MU may have just breathed new life into the Hochul campaign. The timing of the announcement wasn't coincidental.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 04, 2022 02:48 PM (9miN6)


Whatever happened to that huge factory the folks that make apple phones was going to build in Paul Ryan's district?

Posted by: Democrats at October 04, 2022 02:59 PM (Z32m1)

153 Roomba > Zukerberger

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 04, 2022 02:59 PM (qrbVb)

154 127 And where on earth can you completely avoid natural disasters?
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 04, 2022 02:54 PM (/Tiaw)
______________

It's not about COMPLETELY avoiding them. It's about the insanity of deliberately building in well-known disaster areas that frequently get hit with . . . wait for it . . . natural disasters. As I said above, if you want to do this, then you should bear all the risk. I shouldn't have to pay to keep rebuilding someone else's expensive beach houses in a known disaster area.

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 04, 2022 02:59 PM (iFTx/)

155 You can't. That's why we have insurance.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 02:56 PM (ayzS/)

The problem is that the risk models are distorted by the lottery of federal and state aid.

My house was damaged by a Nor'easter a dozen years ago. My homeowners' insurance covered the damage. I got nothing from the government. But a few miles away?

Jackpot!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 04, 2022 02:59 PM (XIJ/X)

156 So, would it have killed one of you to NOOD.

I mean, I know I’ve only got the wet-tissue level membership, but still…

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2022 02:59 PM (dS9wL)

157 Russian nuclear submarine armed with 'doomsday' weapon disappears from Arctic harbor: report

Putin's Belgorod submarine is said to be capable of creating a 1,600-ft 'radioactive tsunami'

Posted by: SMOD at October 04, 2022 02:59 PM (RHGPo)

158 147 Have any elected officials spoken openly about Joe's dementia?
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 04, 2022 02:58 PM (eGTCV)

Ronny Jackson for one

Posted by: Tofer732 at October 04, 2022 02:59 PM (fatpD)

159 143 Mark Zuckerberg is planning to lay off up to 12,000 underperforming Facebook workers.

.. so who is replacing Mark ?
Posted by: SMOD at October 04, 2022 02:56 PM (RHGPo)


Hopefully a Nexus 6 pleasure model.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at October 04, 2022 02:59 PM (qvpzJ)

160 If Biden had any juice, this story would be about how magnanimous he is to open "his wallet" to a virulent foe.

But Biden is just a bit player in the world he supposedly runs.

Trump and Desantis are his only reason for existing within this sphere. He really should thank them.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 04, 2022 02:59 PM (KbCG3)

161 150 The Great Flood of 1927 of the Mississippi River. Worst hit states were Louisiana, Arkansas, and Mississippi.
Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 02:59 PM (CXr4y)

======

That's the one. I could have looked it up, but I had a feeling someone would know.

America was very difference before the Great Depression.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022 02:59 PM (LvTSG)

162 How much did Joey promise Puerto Rico?
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 04, 2022 02:42 PM (qrbVb)


$1M for every little girl he gets to sniff.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 04, 2022 02:59 PM (z99Zw)

163 "Known hurricane paths"? That describes a dozen ENTIRE STATES you'd like to see completely depopulated.

What part of "live where you want, but don't bill me when it predictably goes wrong" is unclear?

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 03:00 PM (ayzS/)

164 After we are done talking about the FEMA wallet can we talk Dept of Education?

And then DoD?

Posted by: TexasDan at October 04, 2022 03:00 PM (s/5s+)

165 DeSantis taking money out of Sundowner's safe in Delaware?

Posted by: Skip's phone at October 04, 2022 03:00 PM (xhxe8)

166 Where I live we get the occasional vicious hail storm or blizzard. That's about it for natural disasters. Oh and packs of roaming grizzlies.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 04, 2022 03:00 PM (eGTCV)

167 Have any elected officials spoken openly about Joe's dementia?
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 04, 2022 02:58 PM (eGTCV)

No fucking way.
None dare call it dementia.

Posted by: JoeF. at October 04, 2022 03:00 PM (mR6Gs)

168 They play this card often. " You hate big government but you'll take the money"

Posted by: steevy at October 04, 2022 03:00 PM (yezA1)

169 And where on earth can you completely avoid natural disasters?
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 04, 2022 02:54 PM (/Tiaw)

It's impossible.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 04, 2022 03:00 PM (N30d6)

170 Hurricanes can even strike California.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 04, 2022 03:00 PM (qrbVb)

171 And where on earth can you completely avoid natural disasters?

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 04, 2022 02:54 PM (/Tiaw)

--------

This is why we need to colonize Mars.

Oh, wait ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 04, 2022 03:00 PM (7qzIg)

172 Live where you want to live. But don't ask me to help pay for rebuilding your home when your choice proves catastrophic. If you want to live in a known hurricane path, or in a known earthquake zone, then you should bear the risk. Ain't my problem.
Posted by: Elric Blade

*

Hmm...

(ponders local people paying for local insurance via Farm Bureau type local insurance policies to cover these sorts of things, be it in Oklahoma, Florida, or New York)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 04, 2022 03:00 PM (kIrFD)

173 Start digging that bunker.

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2022 03:01 PM (v0R5T)

174 143 Mark Zuckerberg is planning to lay off up to 12,000 underperforming Facebook workers.

.. so who is replacing Mark ?
Posted by: SMOD at October 04, 2022 02:56 PM (RHGPo)

Hopefully a Nexus 6 pleasure model.
Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at October 04, 2022 02:59 PM (qvpzJ)


Forget it. She's hanging with Neil Young.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 04, 2022 03:01 PM (AiZBA)

175 With 40 billion in his wallet, I'm surprised Biden's pants don't fall down.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 03:01 PM (vH/6k)

176 "Micron Technology is going to spend $100 billion over the next 20 years to build a chip factory in upstate NY"

It does not take 20 years to build a fab. Sounds fishy.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 03:01 PM (24fqN)

177 157 Russian nuclear submarine armed with 'doomsday' weapon disappears from Arctic harbor: report

Putin's Belgorod submarine is said to be capable of creating a 1,600-ft 'radioactive tsunami'



Gotta make some sacrifices to defend the essential American interest of who runs Donbas.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at October 04, 2022 03:01 PM (qvpzJ)

178 The TRUTH is that no sane adult want to be anywhere NEAR these Woke destroyers. Split the nation up. They can North Korea all they want, we can freedom all we want. And we can sell them all the food and electricity they want to buy and use the money to build a serious wall to KEEP THEM OUT.

Posted by: Alexander Scipio at October 04, 2022 03:01 PM (+uzCP)

179 127 And where on earth can you completely avoid natural disasters?
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 04, 2022 02:54 PM (/Tiaw)

Qatar is statistically the safest place on Earth from natural disasters.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 03:01 PM (UuD2k)

180 Ain't my problem.
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 04, 2022 02:55 PM (iFTx/)

Not my problem!

So long, gayboys!

Posted by: Mr Chow from The Hangover at October 04, 2022 03:01 PM (ufFY8)

181 105 means.

No, it means exactly what I thought it means. It's me subsidizing people who want a beach house, but don't want to cover the real risk of building there.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 02:44 PM (ayzS/)
____________________

Exactly. But it's not just the beach house people. Contractors and builders make a fortune building and then rebuilding the same houses over and over. That's why we are building so much expensive shit right in the middle of known hurricane paths. It's very profitable to do so.
Posted by: Elric Blade

So where are we supposed to live? If you follow the logic here, earthquake zones and tornado alley and volcanic activity all preclude building a home or a city. Your thinking is stupid.
Posted by: nurse ratched at October 04, 2022 02:50 PM (/Tiaw)

Elric gonna Elric, ma'am. I think it's the medication...

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at October 04, 2022 03:01 PM (MkuC5)

182 Well, he's Puerto Rican, so....

I denounce myself for this, and for what I did to what I THOUGHT was a couch, but was actually Dr. Jill.

Posted by: couch fucker at October 04, 2022 03:01 PM (JTRqZ)

183 Have any elected officials spoken openly about Joe's dementia?
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 04, 2022 02:58 PM (eGTCV)

Half of them have it, too.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 04, 2022 03:01 PM (N30d6)

184 I'm sorry I forget but we had serious flooding eight years ago.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 04, 2022 03:01 PM (eGTCV)

185 The problem is that the risk models are distorted by the lottery of federal and state aid.

My house was damaged by a Nor'easter a dozen years ago. My homeowners' insurance covered the damage. I got nothing from the government. But a few miles away?

Jackpot!


That's an argument for getting rid of the aid. It distorts the market and encourages people to do foolish things at other people's expense.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 03:01 PM (ayzS/)

186 IIRC the Army commander after the 06 quake refused to give assistance.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 04, 2022 03:02 PM (qrbVb)

187 Biden stole the wallet. He IS Puerto Rican you know.

Posted by: ... at October 04, 2022 03:02 PM (PgIwc)

188 148 Posted by: Elric Blade at October 04, 2022 02:55 PM

"Known hurricane paths"? That describes a dozen ENTIRE STATES you'd like to see completely depopulated.
Posted by: Rusty Nail at October 04, 2022 02:58 PM (3AR13)
_______________

Are you even reading my comments? I said you can live wherever you want to live, but don't ask me to pay for it when the inevitable happens. And it's not a dozen states at risk. It's the usually the same counties over and over. We know which areas are most likely to be hit.

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 04, 2022 03:02 PM (iFTx/)

189 Alright, so I don't really know what FEMA does regarding the aftereffects of a disaster.

Is it just financial support? Is there logistical work regarding the directing of supplies? Is there clean up work that they do?

No contracting, but FEMA itself.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022 03:02 PM (LvTSG)

190 Wrong Branch, moron... or was it intentional.

The Power of the Purse belongs to Congress

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at October 04, 2022 03:02 PM (Z4oqp)

191
When it's 73 people say its too hot, when its 72 people say its too cold.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 04, 2022 02:56 PM (y3pKJ)

_________

Likely all women.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2022 03:02 PM (1Nxff)

192 I dunno. There's an argument to be made that perhaps building on a sand island with a maximum elevation of 3 feet, and where the storm surge often surpasses that height, may not be a sound idea. The townships that allow this do it for the tax money. To me, that's a very distorted incentive maybe we should force the town to kitty up all the tax money they collected before taxpayers are on the hook.

Posted by: Marcus T at October 04, 2022 03:02 PM (OTvdu)

193 FEMA? How about this:

(FoxNews) The Biden administration is working on a "national strategy" for establishing diversity, equity and inclusion policies for the government that officials hope can be used as a template for companies and other organizations throughout the country.
In part, last week, OPM convened the first meeting of the Chief Diversity Officers Executive Council to "implement and sustain" a government-wide plan for (DEIA) in government hiring and employment.

Yeah, tell anyone associated with the Federal government they're inaccurate, you'll be a racist.

Posted by: Lola at October 04, 2022 03:03 PM (NIYa7)

194 161 150 The Great Flood of 1927 of the Mississippi River. Worst hit states were Louisiana, Arkansas, and Mississippi.
Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 02:59 PM (CXr4y)

======

That's the one. I could have looked it up, but I had a feeling someone would know.

America was very difference before the Great Depression.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022 02:59 PM (LvTSG)

It wasn't normal for the federal government to get involved in natural disasters in the past.

Posted by: Someguy's at October 04, 2022 03:03 PM (VPWcH)

195 Every house I ever owned was built on relatively higher ground.

That can be a pain in the ass in Minnesota winters after a snow storm. But I never had to worry about floods.

Posted by: Democrats at October 04, 2022 03:03 PM (Z32m1)

196 There is a little tiny bit of logic to this, but not what this Politico hack is saying.

Republican Herbert Hoover gained popularity and the presidency by promoting the use of federal dollars to help in state emergencies, after a 1927 flood of the Mississippi did horrific damage and spawned 500 blues songs. The Red Cross did a lot of good and helped out everyone, but Hoover though the government should ride to the rescue.

As Republican silent Cal's Secretary of Commerce, Hoover was sent down to help coordinate rescue and cleanup efforts and did a good job both of the work and making damned sure he got all the publicity and credit.

When he became president he put lots of federal dollars into emergency rescue and assistance funds. Hoover was, in essence, the first GOPe Republican, totally willing to use socialist ideas to promote his employment prospects and power.

Which really doesn't mesh well with the concept of federalism and conservatism but its pretty much something that everyone takes for granted as the federal government's duty and job.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 04, 2022 03:03 PM (Ivdso)

197 Didn't we learn recently that Puerto Rican youth are prone to knife fights and it's completely normal and you're a racist if you would like for them to stop?

Or was that black youth?

One or the other.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 04, 2022 03:03 PM (kIrFD)

198 Folks dream of living by, on or near the water. It's fantasy land stuff. They get gobs of money then their old asses move to a place like Floriduh and live on the beach and never go to the beach.

All the old farts do is live in air conditioning, fight for a place at the early bird special and steal Sweet N Low while not tipping the help then home for an enema and CNN.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 04, 2022 03:04 PM (iLmHM)

199 The left: You sure don't hate taking money from our "big government" hahaha

Also the left: Gimme all your money to fund our "big government" or to jail you go

Also, also the left: Ok, so the government might have, sort of, actually caused the problem. Mistakes were made, we'll improve training, yada yada

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2022 03:04 PM (ESjRY)

200 Qatar is statistically the safest place on Earth from natural disasters.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 03:01 PM (UuD2k

We beg to differ.

Posted by: The Goats at October 04, 2022 03:04 PM (ufFY8)

201
Democrat platform:

>Tax
>Spend
>Lie

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 04, 2022 03:04 PM (z+OQR)

202 115 Joe's wallet is stuffed with sweet Ukranian cash.
______________

I think you mean, "sweet, laundered through Ukraine, American taxpayer cash."

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 04, 2022 03:04 PM (fs1hN)

203 Micron Technology is going to spend $100 billion over the next 20 years to build a chip factory in upstate NY. Should create 50,000 jobs. The CEO made the announcement today - credited Biden, Schumer and the CHIPs Act by name.

MU may have just breathed new life into the Hochul campaign. The timing of the announcement wasn't coincidental.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 04, 2022 02:48 PM (9miN6)


And it'll never happen. Chip fabs require a lot of power.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 04, 2022 03:04 PM (z99Zw)

204 196 Which really doesn't mesh well with the concept of federalism and conservatism but its pretty much something that everyone takes for granted as the federal government's duty and job.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 04, 2022 03:03 PM (Ivdso)

===========

Herbert Hoover is pretty much only liked these days by big government GOPe types.

He distorted the federal government's roles in disasters, made everything worse, and screwed up so badly that we got FDR for the next decade plus.

I mean...he's the ideal Republican.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022 03:05 PM (LvTSG)

205 It seems the colder the climate the less likely catastrophic natural disasters.
I have no data in back that up.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 04, 2022 03:05 PM (eGTCV)

206 Good news, Morons, Gisele's on the market. The downside? She's reportedly divorcing Brady because he's insufficiently Communist. (She wanted him to quit the NFL and help campaign for the Communist running against Jair Bolsonaro).

Posted by: Ian S. at October 04, 2022 03:05 PM (ZGrMX)

207 198 Folks dream of living by, on or near the water. It's fantasy land stuff. They get gobs of money then their old asses move to a place like Floriduh and live on the beach and never go to the beach.

All the old farts do is live in air conditioning, fight for a place at the early bird special and steal Sweet N Low while not tipping the help then home for an enema and CNN.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 04, 2022 03:04 PM (iLmHM)

So you have been to Sarasota.

Posted by: kraken at October 04, 2022 03:05 PM (Vr12I)

208 As I said above, if you want to do this, then you should bear all the risk. I shouldn't have to pay to keep rebuilding someone else's expensive beach houses in a known disaster area.

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 04, 2022 02:59 PM (iFTx/)

What level of risk is acceptable or sensible? Nearly everywhere in the country is at some elevated risk for one kind of disaster or other.

Posted by: ... at October 04, 2022 03:05 PM (PgIwc)

209 Elric gonna Elric, ma'am. I think it's the medication...
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at October 04, 2022 03:01 PM (MkuC5)
______________

What the fuck is that supposed to mean? F you if you think it's "medication" causing me not to want to pay for rebuilding someone else's home when they and they alone made the choice to build in a risky area. I recently put in a new roof deck. You care to send me some money to subsidize it? No? Then shut the fuck up.

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 04, 2022 03:06 PM (iFTx/)

210 205 It seems the colder the climate the less likely catastrophic natural disasters.
I have no data in back that up.
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 04, 2022 03:05 PM (eGTCV)

Unless you count getting crushed by a glacier catastrophic.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 03:06 PM (UuD2k)

211 It seems the colder the climate the less likely catastrophic natural disasters.
I have no data in back that up.


You'd think so, but no.

Posted by: Mile high wall of ice at October 04, 2022 03:06 PM (ayzS/)

212 "Whatever happened to that huge factory the folks that make apple phones was going to build in Paul Ryan's district?
Posted by: Democrats at October 04, 2022 02:59 PM (Z32m1) "

Foxconn
LOL, pretty much what you woulda figured; zip, zero, nada.
though I'm sure that a variety of consulting firms are billing big $ and various big guys have gotten a cut.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 04, 2022 03:06 PM (8oyo2)

213 I've been hearing this argument at work. I can tell DeSantis is doing well in dealing with this hurricane. The Peoples Temple Left are seething and raging.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 04, 2022 03:06 PM (sAmhv)

214 Elric thinks that hurricanes follow established paths and always make landfall in predictable places.

I think the number of hurricanes that Elric has had experience with is between zero and nada.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at October 04, 2022 03:06 PM (3AR13)

215 206 Good news, Morons, Gisele's on the market. The downside? She's reportedly divorcing Brady because he's insufficiently Communist. (She wanted him to quit the NFL and help campaign for the Communist running against Jair Bolsonaro).

Please tell us Brady got a prenup.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at October 04, 2022 03:06 PM (qvpzJ)

216 Micron Technology is going to spend $100 billion over the next 20 years to build a chip factory in upstate NY. Should create 50,000 jobs. The CEO made the announcement today - credited Biden, Schumer and the CHIPs Act by name.

**

Wow, imagine that. Throwing trillions of free dollars at someone will make them open a factory. Learn something every day.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 04, 2022 03:06 PM (kIrFD)

217 136 Quando podeces te regi eorum fecerunt?

When did the assholes make you their king?
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 04, 2022 02:56 PM (yikp0)

regi-->regem

Posted by: m at October 04, 2022 03:07 PM (8rTNG)

218 What level of risk is acceptable or sensible? Nearly everywhere in the country is at some elevated risk for one kind of disaster or other.

Ohio not on a flood plain vs Florida on a sand beach where major hurricanes strike every few years.

I think if you run the actual insurance tables you'll see a rather substantial difference.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2022 03:07 PM (ESjRY)

219 And where on earth can you completely avoid natural disasters?

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 04, 2022 02:54 PM (/Tiaw)

Melrose, NM

Posted by: Roland THTG at October 04, 2022 03:07 PM (j40lz)

220 Well Mittels Rombley is no Herbert Hoover, he's worse.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 04, 2022 03:07 PM (qrbVb)

221 205 It seems the colder the climate the less likely catastrophic natural disasters.
I have no data in back that up.
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 04, 2022 03:05 PM (eGTCV)

I dunno...don't the places with feet of snow in storms tend to get that ice issue that destroys roofs and causes water issues everywhere?

That said, NoVA statistically is probably one of the safest places to avoid natural disasters...anywhere at this climate level, not in hurricane/tornado/earthquake/wildfire valley probably also is..

Posted by: Nova local at October 04, 2022 03:07 PM (exHjb)

222 FJB has only one notecard in his wallet that reads 'If i get lost, please help get home to 1600 PN Avenue".

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at October 04, 2022 03:07 PM (3Or4S)

223 I mean...he's the ideal Republican.

For the cruise ship republican set and Democrats, yeah. Advances the democrat agenda then loses so they can have power.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 04, 2022 03:07 PM (Ivdso)

224 Oooww, a defection maybe

Just 1 ping Vasily

Posted by: Skip's phone at October 04, 2022 03:07 PM (xhxe8)

225
The Biden administration is working on a "national strategy" for establishing diversity, equity and inclusion policies for the government that officials hope can be used as a template for companies and other organizations throughout the country.

__________

So, discrimination having been made illegal, Grievance groups have not caught up. Therefore, discrimination is again legal.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2022 03:07 PM (1Nxff)

226 Analysts Move Pennsylvania Senate Race from ‘Lean Democrat’ to ‘Toss Up’

Fetterman came out as a "gun grabber"

Posted by: SMOD at October 04, 2022 03:07 PM (RHGPo)

227 And it'll never happen. Chip fabs require a lot of power.


*

Yoo-hoo!
- The EPA

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 04, 2022 03:08 PM (kIrFD)

228 And where on earth can you completely avoid natural disasters?

You're in one of the better areas. I mean volcanoes are almost inconceivably destructive, but they are super rare, too.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 04, 2022 03:08 PM (Ivdso)

229 "What level of risk is acceptable or sensible?"

Elric is trying to tell you that you decide that risk, when you choose where to live. You bear the consequences of your risk decision, not everybody else.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 03:08 PM (24fqN)

230 And what-if anything did your boss do?

boss is a closet reich-winger so the joke was on NPC.

and I also like CBD's suggestion

Posted by: kallisto at October 04, 2022 03:08 PM (dCxaZ)

231 Melrose, NM

Yeah, but aliens, man.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 04, 2022 03:08 PM (ppBhU)

232 What level of risk is acceptable or sensible? Nearly everywhere in the country is at some elevated risk for one kind of disaster or other.

Fortunately, we have people whose entire job is to estimate those risks for the private sector. They even get paid for it, and go out of business if they keep getting it wrong.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 03:08 PM (ayzS/)

233 So - the most predictable places to live are hellholes.

Posted by: kraken at October 04, 2022 03:08 PM (Vr12I)

234 It seems the colder the climate the less likely catastrophic natural disasters.
I have no data in back that up.


Cooling temperatures in Europe seem to have led to the black death.

Note, the hottest temperature in modern history happened in the high middle ages.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2022 03:08 PM (ESjRY)

235 It takes 20 years to build a chip factory in NY - 19 years for the permits and one year for the construction.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at October 04, 2022 03:08 PM (3Or4S)

236
That's an argument for getting rid of the aid. It distorts the market and encourages people to do foolish things at other people's expense.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 03:01 PM


There's an area near me that floods every 20 years or so. Last years HC remnants was #3 flood. Really bad. It's only anecdotal but I've heard that FEMA sent a letter to every resident on the street that said, 'Never again. You're on your own."

I have seen one home lifted about 10 feet higher since then. The rest still have shit drying out in the back yards, porta potties, generators going. A year later.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 04, 2022 03:08 PM (y3pKJ)

237 Looks like Elon Musk is about to close the Twitter purchase. Whose turn is it to make the popcorn?

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at October 04, 2022 03:08 PM (cupoy)

238 Please tell us Brady got a prenup.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at October 04, 2022 03:06 PM (qvpzJ)

Pretty sure she's got more $$$ than he does. They're both pretty annoying - which is why they seemed to be a good match - but at least he's been a good source of entertainment, esp for a Pats fan.

Posted by: Peaches at October 04, 2022 03:08 PM (14URa)

239 226 Analysts Move Pennsylvania Senate Race from ‘Lean Democrat’ to ‘Toss Up’


yep this is why Operation Herschel started today (actually last night)

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2022 03:08 PM (w0NJk)

240 1 How about this:

End FEMA and let individual states use those funds to create their own state-level EMAs?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022


***
FLEMA (Florida)

LEMA (Lousy-ana)

MEMA (Montana)

(It's a shame there's no state abbreviated EN)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 04, 2022 03:08 PM (J2vNu)

241 Your high school sweetheart never thinks about you and is getting banged by someone who smells like a liverwurst sandwich.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 04, 2022 02:52 PM (KLPy

Bullshit, it's one or the other. Not both.

Once you've had the wurst, you never go back.

Posted by: Guy who smells like a liverwurst sandwich. at October 04, 2022 03:08 PM (44ww/)

242 What the fuck is that supposed to mean? F you if you think it's "medication" causing me not to want to pay for rebuilding someone else's home when they and they alone made the choice to build in a risky area. I recently put in a new roof deck. You care to send me some money to subsidize it? No? Then shut the fuck up.
Posted by: Elric Blade

There's over a dozen states that wouldn't meet the threshold that you set.

That's what the fuck it means.

Posted by: Blue Hen at October 04, 2022 03:09 PM (JTRqZ)

243 Throwing trillions of free dollars at someone will make them open a factory.

And they'll close it again the second the EPA comes sniffing around.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 04, 2022 03:09 PM (ZGrMX)

244 The place in the country that is safest from "disaster" is actually in Northern Connecticut. Relatively low risk of tornado, flood, fire, earthquake, hurricane, blizzard, etc

Posted by: ... at October 04, 2022 03:09 PM (PgIwc)

245 208 As I said above, if you want to do this, then you should bear all the risk. I shouldn't have to pay to keep rebuilding someone else's expensive beach houses in a known disaster area.

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 04, 2022 02:59 PM (iFTx/)

What level of risk is acceptable or sensible? Nearly everywhere in the country is at some elevated risk for one kind of disaster or other.
Posted by: ... at October 04, 2022 03:05 PM (PgIwc)
_________________

It's really very simple: you pay for your own risk, whatever that may be. People in areas with no risk of flooding shouldn't be paying for mandatory flood insurance that subsidizes rebuilding other people's homes in actual flood areas. This is such an obviously simple concept I can only surmise that the pushback I'm getting is from people who chose to live in these areas and want me to help pay for it.

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 04, 2022 03:09 PM (iFTx/)

246 How much of Joe's wallet goes to Florida disaster relief versus to Zelinsky's retirement account?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 04, 2022 03:09 PM (BTIKu)

247 It's time for the truth, no matter how ugly or brutal that may be.

Hillary has a snatch

Posted by: x at October 04, 2022 03:09 PM (ZC2go)

248 Ever really look at the topography of coastal cities? The highest ground in the area is often the embankments for freeway bridges.

I think one of the safest places to hide out a hurricane in a city would be parked on the third floor of a parking ramp near the elevator banks.

Posted by: rd at October 04, 2022 03:09 PM (Z32m1)

249 "Joe (or the cabal ) is completely sold out to China and probably Ukraine.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 02:42 PM (vH/6k)"

The Bidens took money from the old pro-Russia elements in Ukraine. Those people are long out of power and the cabal's main interest in Ukraine now is abusing them to drum up the desired type of conflict. They're holding aid back to draw things out... while Ukraine knows they're being used but will, reasonably, milk all the aid they can get since for them this is a war of survival.

Neither group is doing this for simple graft; you need to think much bigger. Meanwhile Chinese money which is still flowing to the Bidens very much wants to see this war.

Posted by: somedood at October 04, 2022 03:09 PM (7rP4D)

250 As for earthquake zones, the San Francisco Bay Area has had 1 major quake since 1906 - 1989's Loma Prieta. Not exactly routinely recurring natural disasters.

Posted by: SFGoth at October 04, 2022 03:09 PM (KAi1n)

251 I'm sure there is a rhetorical middle ground to be staked out between "The federal government is not an insurance company" and "Fuck all you swampbillies and snowbirds for living in a place"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 04, 2022 03:09 PM (6FeV1)

252 Elric is trying to tell you that you decide that risk, when you choose where to live. You bear the consequences of your risk decision, not everybody else.

Which, honestly I sympathize with to a point; some people lack the resources or ability to get to anywhere else. And its our responsibility as fellow humans and neighbors (remember the story of the good samaritan?) to help those in need around us. But I'm not a neighbor of Tampa, and my tax dollars shouldn't be extorted out to bail out someone living on a sand bar off North Carolina.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 04, 2022 03:10 PM (Ivdso)

253 233 So - the most predictable places to live are hellholes.
Posted by: kraken at October 04, 2022 03:08 PM (Vr12I)

California has nice weather and is pretty predictable. Main natural disaster is wildfires, which is avoidable and caused by mismanagement.

Posted by: Someguy's at October 04, 2022 03:10 PM (VPWcH)

254 Here in West Michigan we get the rare occasional tornado.
Other than that, maybe some hail damage from storms.

All the shit weather is moderate, at worst.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 04, 2022 03:10 PM (ufFY8)

255 DarthSantis is steering the next hurricane to Nicaragua and/or Honduras.

https://tinyurl.com/5n8jbh8b

Posted by: bed head at October 04, 2022 03:10 PM (Y1sOo)

256

I'z got 40 billion Neisseria in my snizzclam!

Posted by: Kamalaho at October 04, 2022 03:10 PM (/qdLp)

257 @196; interesting.
gotta think about that a while

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 04, 2022 03:10 PM (8oyo2)

258 It's time for the truth, no matter how ugly or brutal that may be.

Hillary has a snatch


No, it's a snizz.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 04, 2022 03:10 PM (ZGrMX)

259 You can live in flood prone areas quite easily if you build things right. 1 floor ranches won't cut it, your house needs to be on stilts.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 03:10 PM (UuD2k)

260 It seems the colder the climate the less likely catastrophic natural disasters.
I have no data in back that up.
Posted by: That NLurker guy

When it gets cold enough, all motion stops, so yeah.

Posted by: SFGoth at October 04, 2022 03:10 PM (KAi1n)

261 The left: Abortion is the most holy, sacred, fundamental right

Also the left: We found this woman to say Herschel knocked her up and she got an abortion. Obviously you can't vote for Herschel now...right?

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2022 03:10 PM (ESjRY)

262 My ass is NOT joe shit for brains biden's wallet.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at October 04, 2022 03:10 PM (mnoTq)

263 Fetterman is a card carrying Marxist

Posted by: Skip's phone at October 04, 2022 03:10 PM (xhxe8)

264 244 The place in the country that is safest from "disaster" is actually in Northern Connecticut. Relatively low risk of tornado, flood, fire, earthquake, hurricane, blizzard, etc
______________

But there's Nothing to dooooo around here!

Posted by: Northern Connecticut teenager at October 04, 2022 03:11 PM (fs1hN)

265 253 233 So - the most predictable places to live are hellholes.
Posted by: kraken at October 04, 2022 03:08 PM (Vr12I)

California has nice weather and is pretty predictable. Main natural disaster is wildfires, which is avoidable and caused by mismanagement.
Posted by: Someguy's at October 04, 2022 03:10 PM (VPWcH)

So, hellhole.

Posted by: kraken at October 04, 2022 03:11 PM (Vr12I)

266 229 "What level of risk is acceptable or sensible?"

Elric is trying to tell you that you decide that risk, when you choose where to live. You bear the consequences of your risk decision, not everybody else.
Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 03:08 PM (24fqN)
_____________

Exactly. Except there seems to be a bunch of freeloaders on this site who want someone else to pay for their decisions.

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 04, 2022 03:11 PM (iFTx/)

267 Just so non-Floridians are aware, a significant amount of damage occurred away from the immediate coast. 10 plus inches of rain, a storm surge into the rivers and tornadoes creates a lot of destruction.

Posted by: Tofer732 at October 04, 2022 03:11 PM (fatpD)

268 Elric, I agree with you. Perfect example: People who build at the very edge of the high banks along Lake Michigan. Great panoramic views of the Lake, until a storm comes and wipes out the shoreline, and leaves the house stranded halfway down a cliff, if not in the Lake itself. Stupid people got no one to blame but themselves.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2022 03:11 PM (dS9wL)

269 226 Analysts Move Pennsylvania Senate Race from ‘Lean Democrat’ to ‘Toss Up’

Fetterman came out as a "gun grabber"
Posted by: SMOD at October 04, 2022 03:07 PM (RHGPo)

========

But the polls in June!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022 03:11 PM (LvTSG)

270 226 Analysts Move Pennsylvania Senate Race from ‘Lean Democrat’ to ‘Toss Up’

Fetterman came out as a "gun grabber"
Posted by: SMOD



Came out? He always was, he just hid it. 'It was revealed' would be more accurate.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 04, 2022 03:11 PM (sAmhv)

271
The whole West Coast is a risk area, by the way.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2022 03:11 PM (1Nxff)

272
It's really very simple: you pay for your own risk, whatever that may be. People in areas with no risk of flooding shouldn't be paying for mandatory flood insurance that subsidizes rebuilding other people's homes in actual flood areas. This is such an obviously simple concept I can only surmise that the pushback I'm getting is from people who chose to live in these areas and want me to help pay for it.
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 04, 2022 03:09 PM (iFTx/)


Can you get government flood insurance outside government designated flood zones?

Posted by: rd at October 04, 2022 03:11 PM (Z32m1)

273 Fortunately, we have people whose entire job is to estimate those risks for the private sector. They even get paid for it, and go out of business if they keep getting it wrong.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 03:08 PM (ayzS/)

My question wasn't about how to calculate it, it was about the threshold of acceptability after which "help" should or should not be given.

Posted by: ... at October 04, 2022 03:11 PM (PgIwc)

274 Porto Reeko is moar impotent then Flurduh!

Posted by: SBSP at October 04, 2022 03:12 PM (WmGrA)

275 California has nice weather and is pretty predictable. Main natural disaster is wildfires, which is avoidable and caused by mismanagement.
_____________

Shh! Don't tell him.

Posted by: San Andreas Fault at October 04, 2022 03:12 PM (fs1hN)

276 And its our responsibility as fellow humans and neighbors (remember the story of the good samaritan?) to help those in need around us.

That's an argument for charity, not taxpayer money extorted at the point of a gun.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 03:12 PM (ayzS/)

277 Gisele and Antonio Brown? Off the market already?

Posted by: Lola at October 04, 2022 03:13 PM (NIYa7)

278 Fetterman came out as a "gun grabber"

I mean, specifically he grabbed a shotgun and chased an innocent black man.

Posted by: Ian S. at October 04, 2022 03:13 PM (ZGrMX)

279 242 What the fuck is that supposed to mean? F you if you think it's "medication" causing me not to want to pay for rebuilding someone else's home when they and they alone made the choice to build in a risky area. I recently put in a new roof deck. You care to send me some money to subsidize it? No? Then shut the fuck up.
Posted by: Elric Blade

There's over a dozen states that wouldn't meet the threshold that you set.

That's what the fuck it means.
Posted by: Blue Hen at October 04, 2022 03:09 PM (JTRqZ)
____________________

So what? Let them pay for their own decisions and stop freeloading off me. Or should I send you a bill for renovations to my place?

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 04, 2022 03:13 PM (iFTx/)

280 Zuck’s Nightmare: UK Coroner Lists Instagram Algorithm as Contributing Cause of Death in 14-Year-Old Girl

Posted by: SMOD at October 04, 2022 03:13 PM (RHGPo)

281 DeSantis taking money out of Sundowner's safe in Delaware?

Posted by: Skip's phone at October 04, 2022 03:00 PM (xhxe

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And Jill's underwear drawers!

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 04, 2022 03:13 PM (odqVH)

282 236 I have seen one home lifted about 10 feet higher since then. The rest still have shit drying out in the back yards, porta potties, generators going. A year later.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 04, 2022 03:08 PM (y3pKJ)

==========

Our previous house was in a flood zone, and the only way to get it out was to raise the house. We considered it, but estimates put it at a minimum of $30,000 - $100,000 to do it, plus contracting work to build porches and stairs and such.

Our new house is also in a flood zone, but much less badly than the previous house. The only part is really a corner of the yard. Our annual flood insurance went from $4,000 to $400.

Oh, and we never claimed flood damage at the old house. We went through several hurricanes including a 100 year flood over there.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022 03:13 PM (LvTSG)

283 Sorry Dorothy, but you ignored Elric, so it's you and me...

Posted by: Tornado Alley at October 04, 2022 03:14 PM (JTRqZ)

284 275 California has nice weather and is pretty predictable. Main natural disaster is wildfires, which is avoidable and caused by mismanagement.
_____________

Shh! Don't tell him.
Posted by: San Andreas Fault at October 04, 2022 03:12 PM (fs1hN)

And until Yellowstone blew North America was inhabited by humans.

Posted by: Someguy's at October 04, 2022 03:14 PM (VPWcH)

285 "And its our responsibility as fellow humans and neighbors (remember the story of the good samaritan?) to help those in need around us"

According to the Bible perhaps, but the Constitution is not the Bible. That there is charity, plain and simple.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 03:14 PM (24fqN)

286 As a true libertarian, I think everyone should pay their own freight. And, if you can't afford the ride, you should have the courtesy to die rather than be a burden on others.

Posted by: Libertarian Greatest Hits at October 04, 2022 03:14 PM (ppBhU)

287 Hillary has a snatch

No, it's a snizz.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 04, 2022 03:10 PM (ZGrMX)

A hellhole.

Posted by: Webb Hubbell at October 04, 2022 03:14 PM (ufFY8)

288 What's in YOUR wallet?

Posted by: Samuel Jackson at October 04, 2022 03:14 PM (v0R5T)

289 Better sent to Florida than Ukraine.

Posted by: Indignatio Vindacatorem at October 04, 2022 03:14 PM (9Ow33)

290 You care to send me some money to subsidize it? No? Then shut the fuck up.
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 04, 2022 03:06 PM (iFTx/)

You file an insurance claim?

If you did, then I subsidized it.

If you didn't and you bear animosity to the folks down in Ft. Meyers simply because they had the unmitigated temerity to want a nice house in a warm climate, and then got run over by a Cat 4 hurricane then you've got other issues.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at October 04, 2022 03:14 PM (MkuC5)

291 Fetterman came out as a "gun grabber"
______________

Guns! grab..... will??...... I .... start?..... now!

Posted by: Fetterman at October 04, 2022 03:14 PM (fs1hN)

292 My question wasn't about how to calculate it, it was about the threshold of acceptability after which "help" should or should not be given.

The government should not, and constitutionally cannot, be responsible for funding "help". There is no threshold. If you choose to live somewhere, and not to insure yourself, that's on you.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 03:14 PM (ayzS/)

293 Hillary has a snatch

No, it's a snizz.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 04, 2022 03:10 PM (ZGrMX)

A hellhole.
Posted by: Webb Hubbell at October 04, 2022 03:14 PM (ufFY
.......

a snuke.

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2022 03:14 PM (v0R5T)

294 Shrek Fetterman won't debate Oz.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at October 04, 2022 03:15 PM (N30d6)

295 Exactly. Except there seems to be a bunch of freeloaders on this site who want someone else to pay for their decisions.

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 04, 2022 03:11 PM (iFTx/)

I didn't get a sufficient reply on what level of risk is acceptable before help can be given. I'm hardly a communist and I would prefer help come charitably rather than through brute force, but we live in an imperfect world where shit happens.

What shit is considered "shit happens" and therefore is deserving of help? Or do you just go "every man for himself, fuck you, I got mine".

Posted by: ... at October 04, 2022 03:15 PM (PgIwc)

296 244 The place in the country that is safest from "disaster" is actually in Northern Connecticut. Relatively low risk of tornado, flood, fire, earthquake, hurricane, blizzard, etc
Posted by: ...



Some good race tracks in Northern Connecticut (Lime Rock, Stafford). It was hilly and lots of forests up there too. Drove through that area a few years back.

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 04, 2022 03:15 PM (sAmhv)

297 >>>Fetterman is a card carrying Marxist

>Fetterman should be on a road crew cracking rock with a sledgehammer for the department of corrections.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 04, 2022 03:16 PM (z+OQR)

298 Zuck’s Nightmare: UK Coroner Lists Instagram Algorithm as Contributing Cause of Death in 14-Year-Old Girl

Posted by: SMOD at October 04, 2022 03:13 PM (RHGPo)

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"Feature, not a bug."

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 04, 2022 03:16 PM (odqVH)

299 Guns! grab..... will??...... I .... start?..... now!
Posted by: Fetterman at October 04, 2022 03:14 PM (fs1hN)


Understand I.

Posted by: The Horta at October 04, 2022 03:16 PM (AiZBA)

300 Hidden in the cost of housing is the cost to deal with any calamities that might strike that house.

And human beings are really, really bad at this. This whole business of people building where floods destroy everything every 20 years or so...where they are building a house they want to live in for decades is evidence of this.

The "sort of" answer is to make people swallow the costs. If you see people ruined because they moved into a flood zone and didn't get flood insurance you'll learn...at least most people will.

But...our government just can't work like this, because if candidate A says "Hey should have gotten your insurance people" and candidate B says "here is a stack of money from everyone else" those people will just vote for candidate B while the people paying for it will NOT generally turn out to vote for candidate A.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2022 03:16 PM (ESjRY)

301 All the old farts do is live in air conditioning, fight for a place at the early bird special and steal Sweet N Low while not tipping the help then home for an enema and CNN.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy



This is oddly specific.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 04, 2022 03:16 PM (/lE6c)

302 A hellhole.
Posted by: Webb Hubbell

When you're in a hellhole, at least you know where you stand.

Posted by: SFGoth at October 04, 2022 03:16 PM (KAi1n)

303 So what? Let them pay for their own decisions and stop freeloading off me. Or should I send you a bill for renovations to my place?
Posted by: Elric Blade

You should, if you can prove you're housebroken. Otherwise, you took the piss, you take the risk.

Posted by: Blue Hen at October 04, 2022 03:16 PM (JTRqZ)

304 294 Shrek Fetterman won't debate Oz.


yeah and Josh Shapiro won't debate Doug Mastriano and Chrissy Houlihan won't debate Guy Ciarrocchi

it's the new dem hotness - don't bother debating let the media do all the work for you

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2022 03:17 PM (w0NJk)

305 250 As for earthquake zones, the San Francisco Bay Area has had 1 major quake since 1906 - 1989's Loma Prieta. Not exactly routinely recurring natural disasters.


The fires are a bigger threat in California now, especially for the rural communities. Especially with Democrat "leadership" on the environmental lobby payroll.

Earthquakes are bad but only for the urban environments and the genuinely destructive ones are exceedingly rare and less of a problem with modern construction.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at October 04, 2022 03:17 PM (qvpzJ)

306 The whole West Coast is a risk area, by the way.

Well I mean, everywhere is a risk area, its a matter of how high and how likely they are.

If, for example, Mt Rainier erupted (as will happen some day), almost all of Seattle would disappear in a matter of minutes, even if the eruption was on the opposite side of the volcano. But I mean the last time it blew up was 5 centuries ago or earlier (the 500 year one was a pyroclastic flow, which may or may not have had quakes). So the risk is severe, but rate.

On the other hand, the San Andreas and related faults had a major earthquake was in Antelope Valley last year (6.0). The last one that really caused a lot of damage was Northridge in 1994, I think? The risk is uncommon, but also significant.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 04, 2022 03:17 PM (Ivdso)

307 300 The "sort of" answer is to make people swallow the costs. If you see people ruined because they moved into a flood zone and didn't get flood insurance you'll learn...at least most people will.

But...our government just can't work like this, because if candidate A says "Hey should have gotten your insurance people" and candidate B says "here is a stack of money from everyone else" those people will just vote for candidate B while the people paying for it will NOT generally turn out to vote for candidate A.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2022 03:16 PM (ESjRY)

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I've owned houses in flood zones, and flood insurance was not an option we could choose to go without. The bank would not give us the loan without it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022 03:17 PM (LvTSG)

308 Perfect example: People who build at the very edge of the high banks along Lake Michigan. Great panoramic views of the Lake, until a storm comes and wipes out the shoreline, and leaves the house stranded halfway down a cliff, if not in the Lake itself. Stupid people got no one to blame but themselves.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus


People know the gamble. Same with barrier reefs.
Galveston Island is the same way. Public beach goes from the water to the vegetation line. Huge risk having your home within 100 yards of the beach. Hurricane Alicia came thru and scoured the vegetation line back and three rows of houses were now on the public beach and forfeited.

Posted by: rickb223 Cruel ace is the best ace at October 04, 2022 03:17 PM (AXL3t)

309 Most common natural disaster also has a program that tries to eliminate moral hazards to some extent. That is flooding and the federal flood insurance program. Problem is that flooding insurance is expensive for individuals so when floods occur--a lot of old construction gets wiped out where mortgages were paid off. These people then want grants/lowcost loans from government.

Arguably, there should be a similar hybrid system for earthquakes, tornadoes, and hurricanes. But there won't be.

That being said, in about ten to twenty years or if the US loses reserve currency status, expect that you may receive nothing at all in a disaster as it will compete with required functions, interest on the national debt, plus entitlements. All the West plus probably China are reaching the end of fiat currency and there will have to be either a default, austerity, or hyperinflation on a Weimar scale.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 03:17 PM (CXr4y)

310 So - the most predictable places to live are hellholes.
Posted by: kraken
____________________

Until the New Madrid fault line acts up.

There's a little piece of Western Kentucky detached from the rest of the state as result of the last time it happened. Changed the course of the Mississippi.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 04, 2022 03:17 PM (SIZS3)

311 206 Good news, Morons, Gisele's on the market. The downside? She's reportedly divorcing Brady because he's insufficiently Communist. (She wanted him to quit the NFL and help campaign for the Communist running against Jair Bolsonaro).
Posted by: Ian S. at October 04, 2022 03:05 PM (ZGrMX)

I've been with my first wife 33 years this month. I'll keep the current model, thanks.

Posted by: clutch at October 04, 2022 03:17 PM (9UmRs)

312 Elric, I agree with you. Perfect example: People who build at the very edge of the high banks along Lake Michigan. Great panoramic views of the Lake, until a storm comes and wipes out the shoreline, and leaves the house stranded halfway down a cliff, if not in the Lake itself.

Yep. I know a couple who had a great place on the Lake, on a high bluff. Their house is maybe 100 feet away from the ledge, but they were responsible and spent a shit ton of money building erosion prevention stuff, and planting vegetation on the sand slope.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 04, 2022 03:17 PM (ufFY8)

313 If you choose to live somewhere, and not to insure yourself, that's on you.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 03:14 PM (ayzS/)

Those are the ones who truly fry my ass.

Posted by: Peaches at October 04, 2022 03:18 PM (14URa)

314 Flood insurance and the National Flood Insurance Program -
FEMA dot gov

Posted by: Lola at October 04, 2022 03:18 PM (NIYa7)

315 anybodys know Ricans never carry more than 12 bucks

Posted by: REDACTED at October 04, 2022 03:18 PM (us2H3)

316 But...our government just can't work like this, because if candidate A says "Hey should have gotten your insurance people" and candidate B says "here is a stack of money from everyone else" those people will just vote for candidate B while the people paying for it will NOT generally turn out to vote for candidate A.

That's why we're in this boat. Politicians exploit natural disasters with other people's money and desire to help those in need.

It's amazing how many people who claim to be conservatives can't see the problem with this model, and allowing politicians to use it.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 03:18 PM (ayzS/)

317 Hey, I found a photo showing the shoes DOCTOR Jill wore yesterday to go with her upholstery fabric dress.

https://tinyurl.com/58ffk9n4

Posted by: Gref at October 04, 2022 03:18 PM (AMIL/)

318 it's the new dem hotness - don't bother debating let the media do all the work for you
Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2022 03:17 PM (w0NJk)

Good. Debates are an asinine farce, and the idea that any sane "message" can come out of one, or that anyone "wins" the entirely predictable media-led hatchet-fest besides the uniparty approved candidate, is laughable.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 04, 2022 03:18 PM (6FeV1)

319 Posted by: Elric Blade at October 04, 2022 03:09 PM (iFTx/)

Can you get government flood insurance outside government designated flood zones?
Posted by: rd at October 04, 2022 03:11 PM (Z32m1)
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That I don't know. Probably, if you're willing to pay for it. You can probably add your own flood insurance if you are willing to pay the premiums. But I'm talking about the gov't forcing property owners to pay for flood insurance in areas that have no risk of flooding. And the insurance is expensive too. To give an example, one of the properties in my client's portfolio has to pay over 4x in flood insurance what it pays for "regular" CGL insurance. That's insane. Where is that money going? Oh yea . . . .

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 04, 2022 03:19 PM (iFTx/)

320 "there seems to be a bunch of freeloaders on this site"

The problem is that we've had over 100 years of "America That Cares About You." (I chalk it up to women's suffrage, initially.) Five generations of citizens are conditioned to expect federal disaster responses, financial bailouts, social security, medicare etc. They think it's all part of the founders' 'generous' vision.

In reality, our govt has shown its inability to do even its mere enumerated tasks competently. So why expect more?

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 03:19 PM (24fqN)

321 "every man for himself, fuck you, I got mine".
Posted by: ... at October 04, 2022 03:15 PM (PgIwc

I don't know about Elric, but we do have some posters- or at least one-who espouses that opinion.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 03:19 PM (vH/6k)

322 293 Hillary has a snatch

No, it's a snizz.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 04, 2022 03:10 PM (ZGrMX)

A hellhole.
Posted by: Webb Hubbell at October 04, 2022 03:14 PM (ufFY
.......

a snuke.


In ingrown gunt.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at October 04, 2022 03:19 PM (qvpzJ)

323 The government should not, and constitutionally cannot, be responsible for funding "help". There is no threshold. If you choose to live somewhere, and not to insure yourself, that's on you.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 03:14 PM (ayzS/)

What if a meteor strikes? My point is I love this world we supposedly live in where the government doesn't fund any of this stuff, except you know, it does.

We pay for a lot of other people's bad decisions. We don't live in a textbook. Why should we only be paying for SOME people's bad decisions but if disaster strikes you're on your own? Seems weird.

Posted by: ... at October 04, 2022 03:19 PM (PgIwc)

324 Flood insurance is really cheap and for most people one of those once in a blue moon worries, but its worth doing if you're reasonably near water, which face it nearly everyone is this side of Nevada.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 04, 2022 03:19 PM (Ivdso)

325 318 Good. Debates are an asinine farce, and the idea that any sane "message" can come out of one, or that anyone "wins" the entirely predictable media-led hatchet-fest besides the uniparty approved candidate, is laughable.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 04, 2022 03:18 PM (6FeV1)

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I think it's also pretty nicely dismissive of the people. "No, you will only see me in carefully curated ad spots, because that's all you deserve."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022 03:19 PM (LvTSG)

326 259 You can live in flood prone areas quite easily if you build things right. 1 floor ranches won't cut it, your house needs to be on stilts.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 03:10 PM (UuD2k)


In the Red River Valley of the Dakotas, there are farmsteads surrounded by huge berms / levees.

A lot of homes would be 90-95% less flood prone if they built them on a raised foundation of just a few feet.

Last city I lived in? I was at the 3-6 foot higher end of the street. The poor SOBs at the other end? All the rainwater would flow down the street into their yard and home 6" - 2 feet deep after a large 3"+ rainstorm.

Posted by: rd at October 04, 2022 03:19 PM (Z32m1)

327 Hey, I found a photo showing the shoes DOCTOR Jill wore yesterday to go with her upholstery fabric dress.

https://tinyurl.com/58ffk9n4

Posted by: Gref at October 04, 2022 03:18 PM (AMIL/)

THANK YOU! I glimpsed them yesterday and have been worried I was alone in my horror.

Posted by: Peaches at October 04, 2022 03:20 PM (14URa)

328 287 Hillary has a snatch

No, it's a snizz.
Posted by: Ian S. at October 04, 2022 03:10 PM (ZGrMX)

A hellhole.

Meat wallet

Posted by: Doyle Hargrave at October 04, 2022 03:20 PM (2cfUo)

329 Posted by: Gref at October 04, 2022 03:18 PM (AMIL/)

that is SO Delaware

*apologies to First State Morons who in any case would not wear coral color espadrilles with that slipcover-theme dress*

Posted by: kallisto at October 04, 2022 03:20 PM (dCxaZ)

330 snuke?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2022 03:20 PM (dS9wL)

331 I've owned houses in flood zones, and flood insurance was not an option we could choose to go without. The bank would not give us the loan without it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022 03:17 PM (LvTSG)

Flood insurance is very limited in the scope of its coverage, beyond that it's all on the property owner.

What people don't realize is the quantity of aid that goes to the local governments for reconstruction of infrastructure.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at October 04, 2022 03:21 PM (MkuC5)

332 "You file an insurance claim? If you did, then I subsidized it."

Only if you voluntarily entered into the same insurance contract. It's not an involuntary citizen's guaranteed insurance policy!

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 03:21 PM (24fqN)

333 $100 billion over the next 20 years to build a chip factory in upstate NY

Not just upstate, but near Syracuse. That's a strange choice, from a transportation standpoint.

Posted by: t-bird at October 04, 2022 03:21 PM (amJF4)

334 I really like espadrilles and never fulfilled my mission to get a pair from Castaner this past summer. But I'd never wear them with a dress like that

Posted by: kallisto at October 04, 2022 03:21 PM (dCxaZ)

335 I've owned houses in flood zones, and flood insurance was not an option we could choose to go without. The bank would not give us the loan without it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022

it's required by federal law on all mortgages for houses in flood zones

Posted by: x at October 04, 2022 03:21 PM (ZC2go)

336 We pay for a lot of other people's bad decisions. We don't live in a textbook. Why should we only be paying for SOME people's bad decisions but if disaster strikes you're on your own? Seems weird.

And this is a never ending argument for extending what we pay for.

I agree there is no easy answer - politically if you go with "f*ck you you made a bad choice learn from it" you will not get elected or re-elected at least.

But as long as we keep privatizing profits/benefits and socializing failures/disasters we'll keep getting more of the latter.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2022 03:21 PM (ESjRY)

337 The thing I liked about old debates is that they used to be the candidates asking questions of each other, which allowed them to bypass consultants, press, carefully curated ad campaigns, etc. Now its THE MEDIA ASKING THEIR QUESTIONS and, what the hell?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 04, 2022 03:21 PM (Ivdso)

338 The government should not, and constitutionally cannot, be responsible for funding "help". There is no threshold. If you choose to live somewhere, and not to insure yourself, that's on you.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 03:14 PM (ayzS/)

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Reminds me of Col. & Rep. Davy Crockett's famous speech in Congress arguing against the Welfare State.

But yeah, unfortunately, that ship sailed centuries ago ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 04, 2022 03:22 PM (Y2/Oh)

339 Hey, I found a photo showing the shoes DOCTOR Jill wore yesterday to go with her upholstery fabric dress.

https://tinyurl.com/58ffk9n4
Posted by: Gref at October 04, 2022 03:18 PM (AMIL/)
...........

It seems she's color blind.

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2022 03:22 PM (v0R5T)

340 anybodys know Ricans never carry more than 12 bucks
Posted by: REDACTED

Pikers!

Posted by: Yooper Poachers at October 04, 2022 03:22 PM (WmGrA)

341 Huh...

Heritage Action just invested a million dollars in the AZ race for Masters.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022 03:22 PM (LvTSG)

342
https://tinyurl.com/58ffk9n4

Very ugly shoes. They match the color of the orange flowers in her dress, however. I guess that's what she was going for?
I am glad I am not the First Lady. Not only because that would mean being married to Joe-but I'd also have my clothes critiqued all the time.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 03:22 PM (vH/6k)

343 "every man for himself, fuck you, I got mine".

For anybody who doesn't like that, there's a Democrat Party they can join.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 03:22 PM (24fqN)

344
I have flood insurance I had to buy when I took out the mortgage on Schloss Hadrian. The elevation is 45 feet. The only time we were seriously threatened was Harvey and even then it would have been another two feet before it got into the house. I doubt a storm surge would make it here.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2022 03:22 PM (fE74p)

345 @ChristinaPushaw
What is wrong with you? It's not "the president's wallet". It is American taxpayers' money. ...

++++
Nah, it's just like the benefits coming out of "Obama's Stash" back in the day.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 04, 2022 03:22 PM (t0OGg)

346 I don't know about Elric, but we do have some posters- or at least one-who espouses that opinion.


mmm hmmm

uhhyep

anyway the debate thing - they ARE important despite all the goofiness - people get to see and compare the candidates! in PA we're not going to get to do that AT ALL! it's totally on purpose to keep Doug looking like some freakish weirdo instead of a nice, thoughtful guy. plus the Left owns the media, the placements (even if they do ad buys they will get somewhat shafted compared to the Left's candidates), and the bots that are popping up everywhere online with garbage.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2022 03:23 PM (w0NJk)

347 Hey, I found a photo showing the shoes DOCTOR Jill wore yesterday to go with her upholstery fabric dress.

https://tinyurl.com/58ffk9n4
Posted by: Gref at October 04, 2022 03:18 PM (AMIL/)
...........

It seems she's color blind.
Posted by: wth at October 04, 2022 03:22 PM (v0R5T)


She ain't no Melania.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 04, 2022 03:23 PM (AiZBA)

348 What level of risk is acceptable or sensible? Nearly everywhere in the country is at some elevated risk for one kind of disaster or other.

One of the beauties of freedom. If people choose their own level of risk, not only do we get fewer deaths from disasters (remember, encouraging people to live in higher-risk areas doesn’t just mean their houses are destroyed regularly; there’s also a rate of people who die regularly because of that incentive).

But we also get innovative new ways of living in areas that would otherwise be unlivable—or require exorbitant insurance. A federal bailout discourages such innovation.

Otherwise, we might as well stop complaining that everyone has to get insurance against pregnancy and making fun of the fact that Obamacare requires even people for whom it is physically impossible to be pregnant to get insured for it.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 04, 2022 03:23 PM (U+Oxn)

349 What if a meteor strikes? My point is I love this world we supposedly live in where the government doesn't fund any of this stuff, except you know, it does.

We pay for a lot of other people's bad decisions. We don't live in a textbook. Why should we only be paying for SOME people's bad decisions but if disaster strikes you're on your own? Seems weird.


Apples and oranges. There's no way to prepare for a meteor strike. It's location is unknowable and unavoidable, since every place on earth has exactly the same risk.

I suppose in that case, one could pass an amendment allowing assistance.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 03:23 PM (ayzS/)

350 I have to pay for Druggie McAsshole's three crack babies, but a two job middle class family got fucked by a 1000 year disaster and fuck them, they're on their own? Bizarre.

Posted by: ... at October 04, 2022 03:23 PM (PgIwc)

351 Clown shows have more popcorn and elephants, I thought.

Where's the bearded lady??

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 04, 2022 03:23 PM (mE7cY)

352 Hey, I found a photo showing the shoes DOCTOR Jill wore yesterday to go with her upholstery fabric dress.

I don't mind the dress, its kind of pretty. Too high cut for her age, and it looks like she picked out her shoes in the dark, but the pattern is fine to me.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 04, 2022 03:24 PM (Ivdso)

353 Of the various things our Leviathan state does, disaster relief is not one of the most offensive. I'll be fine with ending it right after we end entitlement programs.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 04, 2022 03:24 PM (ppBhU)

354 FJB

Posted by: Eli Cash at October 04, 2022 03:24 PM (9r4oT)

355 That I don't know. Probably, if you're willing to pay for it. You can probably add your own flood insurance if you are willing to pay the premiums. But I'm talking about the gov't forcing property owners to pay for flood insurance in areas that have no risk of flooding. And the insurance is expensive too. To give an example, one of the properties in my client's portfolio has to pay over 4x in flood insurance what it pays for "regular" CGL insurance. That's insane. Where is that money going? Oh yea . . . .

Posted by: Elric Blade
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The money goes because some areas have predictable flooding and people are allowed to build again on that property. Some people have gotten 4-5 payouts and rebuilt each time. So, the flood program still requires a government subsidy to remain solvent--if the true cost of flood insurance was charged, a lot of people will have to relocate from river and stream locations which is kind of impractical if it is a city or small town. So, like crop insurance, mass transit fares, postage, etc., the rates are determined as much by political pressure as they are by economics.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 03:24 PM (CXr4y)

356 This was written by the same so-called journalists who would have been drooling at the mouth to go after DeSantis had he not requested Federal Aid before the storm hit Florida. It must be nice being a liberal SOB where you can have it both ways and eat your cake too. Bastards.

Posted by: SmartAlecK at October 04, 2022 03:24 PM (cMlC1)

357 A friend bought a pretty nice house along the river back in Ohio. Deck went to the bank, about fifteen feet up, and steps down to a boat dock. Then one of those once every hundred year events occurred, and the river rose with all the erosion. And then the volunteer fire department closed due to lack of funding. Then some agency declared the tiny town a rural slum. He was kind of SOL as far as insurance.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 04, 2022 03:24 PM (lz5hY)

358 335 I've owned houses in flood zones, and flood insurance was not an option we could choose to go without. The bank would not give us the loan without it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022

it's required by federal law on all mortgages for houses in flood zones
Posted by: x at October 04, 2022 03:21 PM (ZC2go)

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Yeah, people act like most people go without flood insurance. If you live in a flood zone as defined by the federal government's maps, you pay the flood insurance, unless you own the house outright (you can still keep that insurance, of course, it's just no longer required).

Living in coastal South Carolina, I have all kinds of insurance on the house. I actually don't have hurricane insurance, though. It's not required living as far inland as I do (the dividing line is Highway 17 in the Charleston are, pretty much).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 04, 2022 03:24 PM (LvTSG)

359 What if a meteor strikes? My point is I love this world we supposedly live in where the government doesn't fund any of this stuff, except you know, it does.

We pay for a lot of other people's bad decisions. We don't live in a textbook. Why should we only be paying for SOME people's bad decisions but if disaster strikes you're on your own? Seems weird.
Posted by: ... at October 04, 2022 03:19 PM (PgIwc)

Moral hazard. Cost-shifting encourages bad decision-making.

Frankly most natural disasters are handleable at the state level. Maybe if half a state gets wrecked and we need to mass migrate hundreds of thousands or millions of people on a permanent basis there is a federal issue.

Posted by: Someguy's at October 04, 2022 03:24 PM (VPWcH)

360 I'll totally vote for the guy who doesn't want to debate. All that matters to me is that he votes like a farkin' commie lunatic, I can count on him for that.

Posted by: Dem Voter at October 04, 2022 03:24 PM (fs1hN)

361 Clown shows have more popcorn and elephants, I thought.

Where's the bearded lady??
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 04, 2022 03:23 PM (mE7cY)


Secretary of the Navy.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 04, 2022 03:24 PM (AiZBA)

362 351 Clown shows have more popcorn and elephants, I thought.

Where's the bearded lady??

Sorry, Big Mike shaved today.......

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at October 04, 2022 03:24 PM (Js3tc)

363 I didn't get a sufficient reply on what level of risk is acceptable before help can be given. I'm hardly a communist and I would prefer help come charitably rather than through brute force, but we live in an imperfect world where shit happens.

What shit is considered "shit happens" and therefore is deserving of help? Or do you just go "every man for himself, fuck you, I got mine".
Posted by: ... at October 04, 2022 03:15 PM (PgIwc)
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You are missing the point. It's not that no help should be given. It's that insurance and other "help" should be priced according to the risk of the situation, whatever it is. If the property is at higher risk, then that risk should be reflected in the cost of insurance, etc. That is true for virtually all other kinds of insurance. I drive an expensive sports car and pay insurance accordingly. I don't expect a families across the country to subsidize my choices.

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 04, 2022 03:25 PM (iFTx/)

364 Why should we only be paying for SOME people's bad decisions but if disaster strikes you're on your own? Seems weird.
Posted by: ...

Wut?

Posted by: Welfare and Bailouts at October 04, 2022 03:25 PM (WmGrA)

365 Apples and oranges. There's no way to prepare for a meteor strike. It's location is unknowable and unavoidable, since every place on earth has exactly the same risk.

I suppose in that case, one could pass an amendment allowing assistance.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 03:23 PM (ayzS/)

That's literally my point. I just want to know what the thresholds are since there is elevated risk of something almost everywhere one lives and as I said, shit happens.

I think this idea that someone bought their ticket and knew what they were getting into, let em crash, is a kind of strange inverted idealism.

Posted by: ... at October 04, 2022 03:25 PM (PgIwc)

366 here in MA the state has a reg that says all ciries and towns have 10% affordable housing

so the affordable housing folks have come to my small town and bought a huge white elephant for a milion

and the redo is estimated at 5.3 million

so 6.3 million, at a bare minimum, for 11 affordable apartments


the definition of nutz

Posted by: REDACTED at October 04, 2022 03:25 PM (us2H3)

367 snuke?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2022 03:20 PM (dS9wL)
.........

South Park

https://tinyurl.com/5n9xey5r

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2022 03:26 PM (v0R5T)

368 A snuke is a tactical weapon that gets carried in a snizz.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 04, 2022 03:26 PM (mE7cY)

369 I'll be fine with ending it right after we end entitlement programs.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 04, 2022 03:24 PM (ppBhU)

That's hot.
Cut off EBT cards.
THAT'S the spark, baby.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at October 04, 2022 03:26 PM (ufFY8)

370 361 Clown shows have more popcorn and elephants, I thought.

Where's the bearded lady??
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 04, 2022 03:23 PM (mE7cY)

Secretary of the Navy.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 04, 2022 03:24 PM (AiZBA

This guy gets it.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 04, 2022 03:26 PM (mE7cY)

371 Dr. Jill is the Meghan Markle of the Biden Administration.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 04, 2022 03:26 PM (z+OQR)

372 The area where I grew up in W.PA seems to get missed by all major storms. Not sure why that is. Could be raining all around but New Castle will just get a few drops of rain. The weather systems seem to follow the interstates, I80 and I76. Those are north and south of New Castle. It's weird. Mom sends weather reports to her kids and that's fine. :-)

Posted by: Puddleglum at October 04, 2022 03:27 PM (sAmhv)

373 Akshually, meteors are quite valuable. If you get hit by a large one, it could likely pay for itself.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 03:27 PM (UuD2k)

374 In SoCal we have had three extremely devastating earthquakes in my lifetime: Sylmar, Whittier and Northridge. So rare, but not that rare.

Posted by: CA Token at October 04, 2022 03:27 PM (OtL8F)

375 Posted by: BlackOrchid at October 04, 2022 03:23 PM (w0NJk)

Yes; Not debating seems to be the Democrat theme for this cycle. It's too bad.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 03:28 PM (vH/6k)

376 I didn't get a sufficient reply on what level of risk is acceptable before help can be given.

Help can always be given. What it can’t be is required. Requiring help means more deaths from choices that would otherwise be made differently.

Sure, mandatory aid can pay for destroyed homes and even for injuries. But it still can’t bring anyone back from the dead.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 04, 2022 03:28 PM (U+Oxn)

377 Biden: I was with Che and Fidel back in the sixties when it was cool to attack the man and the machine....


KJP: What the PINO meant to say was Fidel was a great baseball player and was cut from a team for racism. Thus he turned against the white man to become a Progressive.

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at October 04, 2022 03:28 PM (Js3tc)

378 and the redo is estimated at 5.3 million

so 6.3 million, at a bare minimum, for 11 affordable apartments


the definition of nutz


Say what?

Posted by: The politically connected developer building the apartments at October 04, 2022 03:28 PM (ESjRY)

379 It's my wallet, it does not belong to joe biden.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 04, 2022 03:28 PM (bVYXr)

380 329 Posted by: Gref at October 04, 2022 03:18 PM (AMIL/)

that is SO Delaware

*apologies to First State Morons who in any case would not wear coral color espadrilles with that slipcover-theme dress*

Posted by: kallisto at October 04, 2022 03:20 PM (dCxaZ)


Now here is a good example of the difference between 'rons and 'ettes. I would say those things are orange not coral, and I have no idea what an espadrille is. I feel like a complete dullard.

Posted by: Gref at October 04, 2022 03:28 PM (AMIL/)

381 Clickorlando dot com/news Jim Saunders, Reporter, News Service of Florida, Published: September 26, 2022

6th property insurer in Florida declared insolvent. FedNat Insurance Co. previously canceled 56,500 policies in May, transferred another 83K in June.

In part, when property insurers become insolvent, the non-profit Florida Insurance Guaranty Association typically steps in to pay claims.

Posted by: Lola at October 04, 2022 03:28 PM (NIYa7)

382 I don't expect a families across the country to subsidize my choices.

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 04, 2022 03:25 PM (iFTx/)

I'm mostly with you, I just don't think it's realistic.

I would prefer to live in a country where help is given charitably rather than at the barrel of a gun. But the absolutes you are speaking in leave me cold, if only because they are totally divorced from the unfortunate reality we actually live in.

Posted by: ... at October 04, 2022 03:28 PM (PgIwc)

383 I think everyone here agrees with the idea of privatizing all welfare and "benefits" from the federal government. To my knowledge, despite growing up very poor, the only government benefit I ever enjoyed was for a couple semesters getting super cheap lunch at school (like 25 cents a lunch). Then the program was cut.

Why not more? Because my parents had too much pride and considered it shameful and immoral to take government payouts even though we totally qualified. I think the most money my dad ever made a year was around $28,000.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 04, 2022 03:29 PM (Ivdso)

384 If you get hit by a large one, it could likely pay for itself.

It might have some draw backs though.

Posted by: The dinosaurs at October 04, 2022 03:29 PM (ESjRY)

385
That's literally my point. I just want to know what the thresholds are since there is elevated risk of something almost everywhere one lives and as I said, shit happens.

I think this idea that someone bought their ticket and knew what they were getting into, let em crash, is a kind of strange inverted idealism.


But you fail to acknowledge the difference between living on earth, which is not a choice, and living in a particular location. The latter has no threshold, because it's not my problem. I didn't get the benefit of living wherever you chose to, so why am I on the hook for the costs?

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 03:29 PM (ayzS/)

386 But as long as we keep privatizing profits/benefits and socializing failures/disasters we'll keep getting more of the latter.

Posted by: 18-1 at October 04, 2022 03:21 PM (ESjRY)

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Including bailing out Auto Companies, Big Banks, and other flavored Special Interest "Too Big To Fail 'Disasters'" and subsidizing Big Tech, Big Pharma/Health, Big Green, et. al.

It's almost like we've be become a Third-World Oligarchic Banana Republic ... or something.

Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 04, 2022 03:29 PM (Y2/Oh)

387 meteors are quite valuable. If you get hit by a large one, it could likely pay for itself.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe


How do you collect that pay if you're smeared across two zip codes?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 04, 2022 03:30 PM (IyrhE)

388 Now here is a good example of the difference between 'rons and 'ettes.

I think women just invent words for colors and shoes, then dare us to call them on it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 04, 2022 03:30 PM (Ivdso)

389 It's not an involuntary citizen's guaranteed insurance policy!
Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 03:21 PM (24fqN)

I spend thousands on insurance every year. It goes into a risk pool. Personally, I can't remember the last time I filed a claim, but I expect the insurance provider to provide the coverage I've been paying for just as it does for any other insured party.

Whether I have a policy with your insurer or not is immaterial to the disagreement. The concept of risk management and the associated price we pay for applies to us all, and I am not free to determine who gets a claim paid and who doesn't.

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at October 04, 2022 03:30 PM (MkuC5)

390 324 Flood insurance is really cheap and for most people one of those once in a blue moon worries, but its worth doing if you're reasonably near water, which face it nearly everyone is this side of Nevada.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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It is not cheap. I don't live in a flood zone but there are some nearby. A few years ago, this area suffered a 500 year flood event as we received 16 inches of rain (not from a hurricane but a stalled front) in roughly 8-9 hours. My wife and I were out diverting streams away from the house in the rain while suffering from the flu. We got a trickle was all. Since then, I have revamped the yard and landscaping of the house to include berms, soaker areas, piping, drywells, etc. to avoid that situation again.

I looked into flood insurance as a rider and it was much more expensive over time than simply redoing the yard and installing drainage/water removal systems.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 03:30 PM (CXr4y)

391 How do you collect that pay if you're smeared across two zip codes?
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 04, 2022 03:30 PM (IyrhE)

Insurance.

ROFL

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at October 04, 2022 03:31 PM (MkuC5)

392 This is disgusting !!!!!!!!! DeathSantos begging for Slow Joe's money to rebuild the racist, homophobic, and MAGA Extremist state of Florida !!!!!!!!!!!

Makes me sick !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at October 04, 2022 03:31 PM (Js3tc)

393 Christina, not all of the taxpayer's money is in Pedo Hitler's wallet, just 10%. Joedolph Shitler isn't greedy, he just wants his taste.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 04, 2022 03:31 PM (u4CEu)

394 ...then home for an enema and CNN.
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Enema & CNN -

the over 29 version of Netflix & chill?

Posted by: screaming in digital at October 04, 2022 03:31 PM (1g34h)

395 How do you collect that pay if you're smeared across two zip codes?

Well, pretty sure mandatory aid isn’t going to help you at that point, either…

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 04, 2022 03:31 PM (U+Oxn)

396 If you get hit by a large one, it could likely pay for itself.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 03:27 PM (UuD2k)

BEST comment EVER! lololol

Posted by: Peaches at October 04, 2022 03:31 PM (14URa)

397 Wasn’t the Lafayette Espadrille that American air squadron in France during WWI?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2022 03:31 PM (dS9wL)

398 In part, when property insurers become insolvent, the non-profit Florida Insurance Guaranty Association typically steps in to pay claims.
Posted by: Lola
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At 100%? Usually when the state has to step in it's at a cut rate.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 04, 2022 03:31 PM (SIZS3)

399 Posted by: Gref at October 04, 2022 03:28 PM (AMIL/)

I said orange and I have no idea what type of shoe an espadrille is except that if that what she's wearing, it's an open toed shoe with a chunky sole.

Last time I checked I am a woman. I just have about two pairs of shoes and some sneakers.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 03:32 PM (vH/6k)

400 I looked into flood insurance as a rider and it was much more expensive over time than simply redoing the yard and installing drainage/water removal systems.

It was like 5 bucks a month here when I last checked into it but that was in the 90s so, who knows now. It would take a very long time to be more costly than renovating your yard and drainage at that rate. But I guess eventually a single cost is always eventually going to be more than an ongoing one.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 04, 2022 03:32 PM (Ivdso)

401 Now here is a good example of the difference between 'rons and 'ettes. I would say those things are orange not coral, and I have no idea what an espadrille is. I feel like a complete dullard.
Posted by: Gref at October 04, 2022 03:28 PM (AMIL/)


Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House - room colors.

https://tinyurl.com/5e9urfkx

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 04, 2022 03:32 PM (AiZBA)

402 I'll totally vote for the guy who doesn't want to debate. All that matters to me is that he votes like a farkin' commie lunatic, I can count on him for that.
Posted by: Dem Voter at October 04, 2022 03:24 PM (fs1hN)
.........

Jim (my brother)... is that you?

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2022 03:32 PM (v0R5T)

403 OK, let's try this. Tote up all the fed disaster money that's ever been paid. Break it down by state. This provides a weighting for additional fed taxes to be applied to each state's residents. There you have a precise metric for state risk, and a precise mechanism for funding its amelioration to each state. QED.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 03:33 PM (24fqN)

404 One thing we are forgetting about in this discussion is that we can't really afford disaster relief. We need to save that money to bail out institutions that are too big too fail whenever things fall apart economically because the government and private entities jointly stepped in it.

That's why I've given up on personal responsibility and market distortion arguments entirely. In the political reality we are living in, they always amount to: hey middle class person, fuck yourself with a potato masher. Meanwhile, the "poor" live off me, and the wealthy are effectively insured by me. No, no, no. Do not talk to me about fiscal sanity or my responsibilities.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 04, 2022 03:33 PM (ppBhU)

405 Whether I have a policy with your insurer or not is immaterial to the disagreement. The concept of risk management and the associated price we pay for applies to us all, and I am not free to determine who gets a claim paid and who doesn't.

Of course it's material. If a company overpays on its claims, then they go out of business. If they underpay, people leave them and go with companies that honor their commitments. That's why we have different insurance companies.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 03:33 PM (ayzS/)

406 Jill's shoes are very functional, they have little surf leashes on them in case one falls off and they're orange... easy to find in the tall grass.

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2022 03:33 PM (v0R5T)

407 It was like 5 bucks a month here when I last checked into it but that was in the 90s so, who knows now. It would take a very long time to be more costly than renovating your yard and drainage at that rate. But I guess eventually a single cost is always eventually going to be more than an ongoing one.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Rates vary by annual precipitation rates among other things. I live in a relatively high precip area where our annual rainfall in a drought exceeds a lot of other places regular precipitation.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 03:34 PM (CXr4y)

408 What level of risk is acceptable or sensible? Nearly everywhere in the country is at some elevated risk for one kind of disaster or other.

The level of risk is what the owner is willing to take. Or it should be. Not what is dictated by some gvt entity.

Posted by: AK at work at October 04, 2022 03:34 PM (o+IHV)

409 I think women just invent words for colors and shoes, then dare us to call them on it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 04, 2022 03:30 PM (Ivdso

Nah. It would be funnier if we made up names. Jill's shoes:
Juntadrilles.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 03:34 PM (vH/6k)

410 I looked into flood insurance as a rider and it was much more expensive over time than simply redoing the yard and installing drainage/water removal systems.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 03:30 PM (CXr4y)

The house we moved from had a sump pump that failed. First big rain, water was pouring in over the crawl space vents from the high side of the property, which was all swampy to begin with.

I was out digging, diverting, redirecting, and cleaning out storm drains in the rain. I spent the next ten years doing the same as you, perfecting the storm drainage and runoff into the storm drains.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 04, 2022 03:34 PM (yHsuS)

411 Wasn’t the Lafayette Espadrille that American air squadron in France during WWI?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 04, 2022


***
"Lobster Espadrille" keeps running through my mind.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 04, 2022 03:35 PM (J2vNu)

412 Or Cabaldrilles.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 03:35 PM (vH/6k)

413 the idea that you are gonna cash in by getting slammed by a large one is what all my GFs thought

Posted by: REDACTED at October 04, 2022 03:35 PM (us2H3)

414 The truth?

We've been conquered.

Posted by: tsj017 at October 04, 2022 03:35 PM (YcOm1)

415 There you have a precise metric for state risk, and a precise mechanism for funding its amelioration to each state. QED.

But...but....but...I LIKE living at the beach. I just can't afford it. It's not FAIRRRRR!!!

Posted by: Insolvent homeowner on a sandbar at October 04, 2022 03:35 PM (ayzS/)

416 403 OK, let's try this. Tote up all the fed disaster money that's ever been paid. Break it down by state. This provides a weighting for additional fed taxes to be applied to each state's residents. There you have a precise metric for state risk, and a precise mechanism for funding its amelioration to each state. QED.
Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 03:33 PM (24fqN)

Yeah it's not obvious why this needs to be laundered by the federal government. If all states have natural disasters with some degree of regularity, why would it need to be federalized? The costs are then somewhat predictable and manageable.

Posted by: Someguy's at October 04, 2022 03:35 PM (VPWcH)

417 I didn't get the benefit of living wherever you chose to, so why am I on the hook for the costs?

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 03:29 PM (ayzS/)

As we've established, some disasters are more predictable than others. As I've said I'm mostly with you and Elric in general sentiment, I just don't think it's all that attached to reality. My tax dollars pay for more stupid shit than I could ever name, and plenty of disasters are not the result of a "bad decision".

Posted by: ... at October 04, 2022 03:35 PM (PgIwc)

418 This is nice. Funny, did we discuss taking money out of Bush's wallet?

These people are garbage.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 04, 2022 03:35 PM (CwQXo)

419 You'd never catch Melania wearing Juntadrilles

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 04, 2022 03:36 PM (Ivdso)

420 Maybe Joe Biden's wallet is real, as in, he has the money from the SPR sales in it and ready to dole out to whoever his masters tell him. Well 90% of it anyway, he gets to keep 10%, as per the deal.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at October 04, 2022 03:36 PM (fs1hN)

421 People used to live just fine without electricity. Then people got used to it, and designed their houses with electricity in mind. Now, a house generally isn't livable without electricity unless you've gone to significant lengths to make it so. A house with a wood stove and a manual well pump is fine... but how many households have that anymore? What happens if suddenly *every* household in America suddenly needs a new heat source and water source?

America has so thoroughly internalized the "electricity" of huge amounts of money floating around between DC and the various states, that cutting it all off would make the nation unlivable. All noble principles and theories to the side (however correct they may be), it would be cataclysmic to change America into being a free, ordered republic overnight. Literally, Revolutionary. We're just not set up for it anymore, not culturally, not financially, not at all. Maybe it does happen and we won't have any choice in the matter, and maybe life will be better off after everything's shook down and re-established itself for a "post-electricity" world... but it wouldn't be pretty or fun.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 04, 2022 03:36 PM (6FeV1)

422 It's that insurance and other "help" should be priced according to the risk of the situation, whatever it is. If the property is at higher risk, then that risk should be reflected in the cost of insurance, etc. That is true for virtually all other kinds of insurance. I drive an expensive sports car and pay insurance accordingly. I don't expect a families across the country to subsidize my choices.
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 04, 2022 03:25 PM (iFTx/)

And what exactly makes you think the same process isn't at work for homeowners impacted by Ian?

Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at October 04, 2022 03:37 PM (MkuC5)

423
It was like 5 bucks a month here when I last checked into it but that was in the 90s so, who knows now. It would take a very long time to be more costly than renovating your yard and drainage at that rate. But I guess eventually a single cost is always eventually going to be more than an ongoing one.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 04, 2022 03:32 PM (Ivdso)


Never had a flood myself, but after helping clean up the mess at my job? Avoiding a flood event is worth 10X more than any insurance pay out!

Posted by: rd at October 04, 2022 03:37 PM (Z32m1)

424

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 04, 2022 03:33 PM (ppBhU)

Bingo bango bongo bingo

Posted by: ... at October 04, 2022 03:37 PM (PgIwc)

425 "Yeah it's not obvious why this needs to be laundered by the federal government."

I was addressing that argument to those who think fed disaster bailouts are The American Way, and/or those who keep asking what is the risk level of any particular place.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 03:37 PM (24fqN)

426 As I've said I'm mostly with you and Elric in general sentiment, I just don't think it's all that attached to reality. My tax dollars pay for more stupid shit than I could ever name, and plenty of disasters are not the result of a "bad decision".

I understand, but that's a political argument, not a "what should we do" argument.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 03:38 PM (ayzS/)

427 In all truthfulness, govt bailouts aren't paid with tax dollars that existed prior to the disaster or bank failure. They are paid with printed money. And the govt loves printing money. Both parties.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 03:38 PM (Y5qcH)

428 Jill is stuck in the 70s in her heyday

Posted by: Skip's phone at October 04, 2022 03:38 PM (xhxe8)

429 112 Miranda Devine takes Dementia Joe and Queen Jill apart, and leaves them in tatters on the floor.

https://tinyurl.com/5n75f9b7
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 04, 2022 02:52 PM (BTIKu)


I hadn't seen that article before. Lovely scalpel work on the part of Ms. Devine.

Posted by: kathysaysso at October 04, 2022 03:38 PM (m78jL)

430 You know what else they found in Joe's wallet?

One of Hunter's used condoms and a rock of crack cocaine. Hunter is like a squirrel.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 04, 2022 03:39 PM (z+OQR)

431 And what exactly makes you think the same process isn't at work for homeowners impacted by Ian?

Because the Feds got involved and whenever they do, the rot creeps in.

Posted by: AK at work at October 04, 2022 03:39 PM (o+IHV)

432 I live on the Konkapot River and I aint got no blood insance

Posted by: REDACTED at October 04, 2022 03:39 PM (us2H3)

433 If you're smeared across two states, where do they bury the survivors?

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 04, 2022 03:39 PM (yikp0)

434 It would take a very long time to be more costly than renovating your yard and drainage at that rate.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

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Most of the changes are actually pretty cheap and my wife and I did most of it ourselves. Same for a lot of houses in flat areas before the flood insurance program existed. They raised up the house with crawlspaces and used grading to direct water away from the houses or barns. Some even figured that the first floor was at risk from flooding even with a crawlspace and used appropriate construction to minimize cleaning and mold from them.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 03:39 PM (CXr4y)

435 Nah. It would be funnier if we made up names. Jill's shoes:
Juntadrilles.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 04, 2022 03:34 PM (vH/6k)
........

They don't look comfortable at all. She should invest in a pair of My Sandals.

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2022 03:40 PM (v0R5T)

436 "My tax dollars pay for more stupid shit than I could ever name, and plenty of disasters are not the result of a "bad decision"."

"I understand, but that's a political argument, not a "what should we do" argument."

That's a "two wrongs make a right" argument.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 03:40 PM (24fqN)

437 And what exactly makes you think the same process isn't at work for homeowners impacted by Ian?

If the money collected from FL homeowners reflected the costs of ownership there, then FL wouldn't need to ask the Feds for money.

Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 03:40 PM (ayzS/)

438 The thing missing in the origins of all this is that the Red Cross (and other charitable organizations) did a great job in the flood or 1927, but didn't have enough people to cover everywhere.

Every new government agency not only saps money, but urgency from charitable giving. Why give to a charity, even a really good one (a few are out there), if you're already giving to the government to do it? Its covered, sorry.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 04, 2022 03:41 PM (Ivdso)

439 Jill wouldn't have done wellin Dallas cuz all the bars close at 2 am

needs to go somewhere they close at 4 am

Posted by: REDACTED at October 04, 2022 03:41 PM (us2H3)

440 Man has always gravitated to the sea shore for easy access to food from the sea and chicks in bikinis.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 03:41 PM (Y5qcH)

441 If you're smeared across two states, where do they bury the survivors?
Posted by: andycanuck


Hopefully they don't.

Posted by: rickb223 Cruel ace is the best ace at October 04, 2022 03:43 PM (AXL3t)

442 I live on the Konkapot River and I aint got no blood insance
Posted by: REDACTED


Shocking.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 04, 2022 03:43 PM (IyrhE)

443 I don't actually like the sea that much. its okay in short bursts but I could live every day of my life in the mountains and be happy and content. Its hard to describe how much it feels like going home to get up into the wilderness, something I don't get to do any longer these days.

But the ocean is just "that's pretty" for a few minutes then I get tired of waves crashing every couple seconds and seagulls.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 04, 2022 03:43 PM (Ivdso)

444 If you're smeared across two states, where do they bury the survivors?

If a meteor hits that smears people across two zip codes, this is going to be a major disaster of unprecedented level, probably affecting climate worldwide for decades, as well as the ability to live in the several states around the impact zone.

If a meteor hits that smears people across two states (barring hitting right at the border), I suspect it’s game over for humans throughout the world.

I don’t know, though. What’s the biggest impact we know of in the history of life on Earth?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at October 04, 2022 03:44 PM (U+Oxn)

445 Just got number 5 of the 15 texts from the republicans that said "CNN & MSNBC just declared democrats are surging! Will you take a survey for $35?

FUCK NO! Suck a greasy turd out of my asshole RNC.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at October 04, 2022 03:44 PM (u4CEu)

446 Jill Biden is waiting on Earth Shoes to become retro fashionable again.

Posted by: Count de Monet at October 04, 2022 03:44 PM (4I/2K)

447 440 Man has always gravitated to the sea shore for easy access to food from the sea and chicks in bikinis.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 04, 2022 03:41 PM (Y5qcH)

I thought of the chrome robot from Logan's Run- and Jenny Agutter's boobs.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at October 04, 2022 03:44 PM (CwQXo)

448 That's a "two wrongs make a right" argument.

Posted by: Mentholated Smooth-Drawing gp at October 04, 2022 03:40 PM (24fqN)

Not even remotely. I will accept the argument that there's shouldn't be government help for hard working people getting dicked by disasters when we get rid of the help for all the other shit. Otherwise it's just a lot of Tough Talk and textbook sentiment. Why should they be the first to get the axe but the banks and welfare loafers are still protected?

Posted by: ... at October 04, 2022 03:44 PM (RZ+ob)

449 Nood Margo

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 04, 2022 03:45 PM (BIKbQ)

450 In that knee length skirt, Jill must be deluding herself that someone wants to see her gams.

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2022 03:45 PM (v0R5T)

451 At 100%? Usually when the state has to step in it's at a cut rate. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 04, 2022 03:31 PM (SIZS3)

More of previously cited article: FIGA already is using money from assessments of 1.3 percent and 0.7 percent to pay costs related to other insolvencies. Its board last month approved a plan to borrow $150 million, with the debt financed by extending the 0.7 percent assessment through 2023.

Posted by: Lola at October 04, 2022 03:45 PM (NIYa7)

452 That's a "two wrongs make a right" argument.

It really isn't. It's a "one set of rules for everyone or no rules" argument.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 04, 2022 03:46 PM (ppBhU)

453 @244 --

New Yorkers?

Posted by: Weak Geek at October 04, 2022 03:46 PM (Om/di)

454
But the ocean is just "that's pretty" for a few minutes then I get tired of waves crashing every couple seconds and seagulls.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 04, 2022 03:43 PM (Ivdso)

__________

Plus asshole boaters and Cap'n Bill's Seafood Restaurant

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 04, 2022 03:46 PM (1Nxff)

455 I thought of the chrome robot from Logan's Run- and Jenny Agutter's boobs.

I thought of Box. Not Jenny Agutter's, the robot.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at October 04, 2022 03:47 PM (qvpzJ)

456 I was out digging, diverting, redirecting, and cleaning out storm drains in the rain. I spent the next ten years doing the same as you, perfecting the storm drainage and runoff into the storm drains.

Posted by: Comrade flounder
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That would do it. Unfortunately in this day and age, a lot of people regard houses, cars, etc. as throwaway purchases and construction and car reliability today shows it.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 03:47 PM (CXr4y)

457 Jill wouldn't have done wellin Dallas cuz all the bars close at 2 am

needs to go somewhere they close at 4 am
Posted by: REDACTED at October 04, 2022 03:41 PM (us2H3)
........

but then it's only a couple hours until sunrise and you're really in trouble.

Posted by: wth at October 04, 2022 03:47 PM (v0R5T)

458 Not even remotely. I will accept the argument that there's shouldn't be government help for hard working people getting dicked by disasters when we get rid of the help for all the other shit. Otherwise it's just a lot of Tough Talk and textbook sentiment. Why should they be the first to get the axe but the banks and welfare loafers are still protected?

It is just tough talk because noone wants their piece of pie taken. Doesn't mean that everyone's piece of pie shouldn't be taken. It wasn't theirs in the first place.

I'm waiting for the pendulum to swing back with a vengeance.

Posted by: AK at work at October 04, 2022 03:48 PM (o+IHV)

459 422 It's that insurance and other "help" should be priced according to the risk of the situation, whatever it is. If the property is at higher risk, then that risk should be reflected in the cost of insurance, etc. That is true for virtually all other kinds of insurance. I drive an expensive sports car and pay insurance accordingly. I don't expect a families across the country to subsidize my choices.
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 04, 2022 03:25 PM (iFTx/)

And what exactly makes you think the same process isn't at work for homeowners impacted by Ian?
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at October 04, 2022 03:37 PM (MkuC5)

________________________

Because I'm paying tens of thousands a year for flood insurance for property in no risk of being flooded. My premiums are being used to subsidize properties that are in risk of being flooded.

Posted by: Elric Blade at October 04, 2022 03:48 PM (iFTx/)

460 I don’t know, though. What’s the biggest impact we know of in the history of life on Earth?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair
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It is believed that some third body hit the earth early in the solar system development and the part of the resulting debris created the moon. Given the sample of moons in our solar system, the Moon is unusually large and close given the size of Earth.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 03:49 PM (CXr4y)

461 I pay for insurance to replace my house if it's destroyed by any number of catastrophes. It's a large chunk of my retired living expenses. I won't need FEMA.

If people can't (won't) pay the insurance, they don't deserve to own a home.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 04, 2022 03:52 PM (BdMk6)

462 Because I'm paying tens of thousands a year for flood insurance for property in no risk of being flooded. My premiums are being used to subsidize properties that are in risk of being flooded.

Posted by: Elric Blade
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Hate to tell you but if you are paying flood insurance, the usual is based on at least one flood in every hundred years--but the odds are the same from year to year whether it will be THIS year. Development in a watershed including commercial runoff due to large impermeably roads, parking lots, etc. also figures into it with the maps be redrawn in hindsight. After the 500 year flood occurred in my county, all of the maps were redrawn to reflect new areas of flooding so some people had to buy flood insurance that were previously not in a flood plain.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 03:53 PM (CXr4y)

463
It's amazing how many people who claim to be conservatives can't see the problem with this model, and allowing politicians to use it.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 04, 2022 03:18 PM (ayzS/)

Not related to FEMA but I thought this same thing when my Senator (D) sent an email lauding all the wonderful things he'd done. Passing a bill to subsidize some green home renovation crap, etc. All I could think was - STOP spending my money!! For all the money that goes to run the stupid program just to give a household $500 - there's so much COST for your program that far outweighs any benefit.

We really need to outlaw government programs like this . Stop spending taxpayer money to influence behavior. Can we outlaw them all? Found a nonprofit (time limited) to solve the problem with NO government funding.

**steps carefully down from soap box.

Posted by: Iris at October 04, 2022 03:54 PM (NaH5I)

464 189 Alright, so I don't really know what FEMA does regarding the aftereffects of a disaster.

You're the 1st to ask. Themselves? The agency statement is: "The Federal Emergency Management Agency coordinates the federal government's role in preparing for, preventing, mitigating the effects of, responding to, and recovering from all domestic disasters, whether natural or man-made, including acts of terror."

Coordinates.

Posted by: Lola at October 04, 2022 04:00 PM (NIYa7)

465 Hate to tell you but if you are paying flood insurance, the usual is based on at least one flood in every hundred years--but the odds are the same from year to year whether it will be THIS year. Development in a watershed including commercial runoff due to large impermeably roads, parking lots, etc. also figures into it with the maps be redrawn in hindsight. After the 500 year flood occurred in my county, all of the maps were redrawn to reflect new areas of flooding so some people had to buy flood insurance that were previously not in a flood plain.

And those flood plain lines are drawn by the fed gvt. And mandated by fed gvt. Who shouldn't be involved. It should be the owner's choice and responsiblility alone.

Posted by: AK at work at October 04, 2022 04:01 PM (o+IHV)

466 ‘The Big Guy Has Never Shared His 10% with Florida’ Hurricane Victims

Posted by: SMOD at October 04, 2022 04:14 PM (RHGPo)

467 And those flood plain lines are drawn by the fed gvt. And mandated by fed gvt. Who shouldn't be involved. It should be the owner's choice and responsiblility alone.

Posted by: AK at work
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Contractors generally do that and mapping and surveying has been a job of the fedgov since all the way back. G. Washington was a surveyor before becoming a soldier for the colony of VA.

When people get a federally guaranteed mortgage, they agree contractwise to be subject to federal flood program insurance. The nuclear power industry benefits from a long time limit on damage claims against the utility, Corp of Engineers enjoys sovereign immunity from being sued over water decisions including flooding one place to avoid it in another and so on.

We are dealing with a thicket of laws, policies, political interest, and so on and basically the only way to sort it out would be a hard crash to the system.

Posted by: whig at October 04, 2022 04:15 PM (CXr4y)

468 226 . . . Fetterman came out as a "gun grabber"
Posted by: SMOD
______________

Nonsense. He's a regular man of the people. He wears a hoodie!

Posted by: Furious George at October 04, 2022 04:56 PM (CkFy6)

469 Go Away Joe Biden

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at October 04, 2022 06:08 PM (wGqjj)

470 Yeah Joe has a wallet. It's filled with the 10% cut for the Big Guy.

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Posted by: omissions at October 04, 2022 11:53 PM (tHA2m)

472 "Tom Elliott

@tomselliott
Wow did you guys know Biden's wallet has more than $10 trillion in it? Incredible reporting here from Politico."

Apparently, Burisma pays even better than we thought!

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