1 1

2 so close

3 I appreciate standing on principle, but I also understand that we can't make the perfect the enemy of the good.

Vote for it, and then talk about how disgusting the bill is and then NAME AND SHAME the people responsible for making it such a porked up mess.

4 I'm commenting "present" on this one.

5 Youth Save Democracy brings A Vision for Democracy and Progress Project 2029

.. the long awaited response to the Democrat's "Boogeyman" Project 2025

6 Can't stay around, off to work again
Have a great afternoon everyone

7 nooded

8 Polls this far out are usually garbage IMO.

9 Hey, it's a slow news day. Give me a break. I've got to put up anything close to newsy.

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Dude.

Biggest news so far:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD18ddeFuyM

Yuge. Edgar Wright is making another movie!

10 Massie would lose even Elon bankrolls him

Yes, ask though is just going to payroll everyone that opposes this bill, he’s got a lot more Democrats to pick from they just focusing it on massie

Do nothing Libertarians aren’t helping cause

11 Massie sucks assie

12 Musk is not wrong about the bill: it is objectively bad. Is it the best outcome possible given the makeup of Congress? I don’t know.

13 Ace you can write about how HOT it is in , you know, summer...

14 I'm just curious what Massie did on his posts in the Transportation, Judiciary, and Rules committees to help make the House version of the OBBB less terrible in his eyes.

15 In other, similarly important news-

Detroit is getting a WNBA team!

And the local fox news station, as part of the promotion, included a picture of a women's basketball in the air... about to brick off the front of the rim.

Perfect.

16 Slow news day my eye.

17 I no longer care about the federal budget. Accounting and monetary policy are both witchcraft on their own, let alone combined.

18 You have to win elections to craft better laws.

19 I've been reading Howard Chapelle's very detailed 1949 History of the American Sailing Navy, and it's striking how worthless libertarians have been right from the get-go. Jefferson was against a navy, but then used the one Adams and the Federalists had built in a very incompetent way to fight the Barbary Pirates. But he and Madison (pre-1812, Madison changed his tune later) wouldn't build anymore frigates or sloops. No sir. They built really tiny gunboats as some sort of waterborne equivalent to the state militias they had such a hard-on for.

I'm beginning to suspect that libertarianism going back to the anti-federalists is just an excuse in doing nothing and feeling virtuous about it at best, and a sort of non-Marxist escape from reality at worst.

20 Hey, it's a slow news day. Give me a break. I've got to put up anything close to newsy.

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Dude.

Biggest news so far:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD18ddeFuyM

Yuge. Edgar Wright is making another movie!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at July 01, 2025 03:32 PM (GBKbO)
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Meh. I'm waiting for the Snow White sequel.

21 RFK Jr. Unloads Disturbing Vaccine Secrets On Tucker... And Surprises Everyone On Trump

“I had [Trump] pegged as a narcissist, when narcissists are incapable of empathy....[but] he’s one of the most empathetic people that I’ve met,”

22 Well, shoot, ace, I can load you up on articles

Former Venezuelan military intelligence chief Hugo Carvajal pleaded guilty Wednesday to federal drug trafficking charges in the U.S. after striking a deal with prosecutors that leaves open the possibility of his cooperation with law enforcement in exchange for a reduced sentence.

(he looks like a corrupt thumb with links to the major leftist parties in South America, But mostly a corrupt thumb)'

https://tinyurl.com/5fwfvuxx

23 Given that House incumbents are re-elected at something like a 98% clip, I don't think Massie should be too worried.

24 This can work out for the best. We get this bill, the best we can do now ,and get rid of a bunch of RINOs so the next one is much better.

25 It's Go Time Donald, please re-post your classic comment from last thread (the one about the two billionaires).

Outstanding. Ace-like, even.

26 Ethington is not a bad looker. That alone puts her over Massie

27 Hey, it's a slow news day. Give me a break. I've got to put up anything close to newsy.

Posted by: Ace at 03:30 PM


Crutchy is my favorite.

28 17 I no longer care about the federal budget. Accounting and monetary policy are both witchcraft on their own, let alone combined.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 01, 2025 03:34 PM (B9Prs)

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The high water mark of people actually caring about the budget was probably 2012.

And then Obama won, spending continued out of control, covid happened, spending went wild, Biden got elected, spending went even wilder, and the country still isn't bankrupt.

And I don't think 2012 really meant that people truly cared about the deficit. It was more of a partisan thing to attack Obama with.

29 Screw windbag Massie. I don't care what Musk wants, I didn't vote for him or his stupid EV's.

30 21 Tbh this has been obvious for quite some time. I also back in his celebrity days thought he was nothing but a narcissist.

31 20 Meh. I'm waiting for the Snow White sequel.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 01, 2025 03:34 PM (iFTx/)

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Edgar Wright could make a Snow White sequel or a new version of A Star is Born, and I'd still be there for it.

32 There's definitely a bunch of losers that need to get primaried.

Apparently Madmani is inspiring other woke Gen Z skulls full of mush to run for office. Not sure if that's good or bad. But they can't all be slick, multiple accent sporting nepo babies.

33 SpaceX is providing real value for the government money. I half expect Musk will just say F it and stop providing launch services to the Feds after contracts expire. Then he can post a nice photo of his middle finger on Trump’s Truth Social.

34 Wait till they race and gender swap Pinnochio.

35 Chunk Uygur praises Massie for "telling the truth about AIPAC."

Dude.

http://tiny.cc/4efo001

36 PSOE (Spanish workers party, the main political party in Spain for 40 years) is having a corruption issue

[A] political crisis shaking Spain, where the Socialist government (PSOE) of Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez is on the edge of a cliff. This time, it’s not just lies and sex — it’s an alleged corruption scheme involving kickbacks received by top Sánchez advisors in exchange for political favors, mostly related to public works contracts. The scandal has reached deep into the PSOE leadership and continues to unfold.

https://tinyurl.com/57vwzjp8

37 OK I goggled Nicole Lee Ethington
Oomph. Yowza. She's a beaut.

38 How much of this “deficit exploding“ bullshit is just because a tax cut was renewed?

There’s a great way to shrink the deficit and that’s to go back to the Obama tax rates. Is that now the official libertarian position?

39 "You have to win elections to craft better laws."

Technically.

But as most GOP voters have discovered for 30 years, no necessary connection between the two. Plus, "better laws" mean nothing in a bad-faith collapsed civic culture (with a mostly lawless wildly usurping judiciary as a huge weapon). With an electorate that refuses to enforce its will, except episodically (2010, 2016, 2024)

See the Soviet constitution for better laws, and what they can amount to.

Still the odds favor "winning" elections, vs. not doing so.

40 Good News of the Afternoon

Rubio: USAID is officially, completely, and finally dead. No more money is going out.

Julie Jaman, the 82-year-old woman who got banned from the Y for objecting to trannies in the locker room just won a $65K settlement. That should keep her in Metamucil for a while.

Andrew Clyde introduces an amendment to the BBB that removes the NFA requirements for suppressors, SBRs, SBSs, and AOWs.

41 How did the state that had the Creationist Museum end up with a liberal Governor and liberal/RINO Rep?

42 While OrangeManBad and Elon are busy arguing who is going to primary useless twatwaffles like Thune and Cornyn?

43 Ethington needs a new website. Holy shit is it bad. Like something from 1980s BBS. And she should lay off the heavily filtered photos. She's an attractive lady. No need to look like a THOT.

https://www.nikileecongress.com/

44 Elon is pretty new to politics to be fighting so hard right out of the gate.

I get, for whatever reason, he thinks this is urgent do or die situation but he's putting a lot of political, and financial, capital on the line for something that isn't really worth it.

That he's diametrically opposing Trump so publicly because of a large spending bill going through Congress is really quite silly.

It's like he's only been watching Congress for a year and suddenly discovered there's a lot of crazy shit and ridiculous spending going on around there.

Cool your jets, Elon, a lot of us have been watching Congress screw things up for decades. This is nothing new under the sun. They lie, they spend money, and then they lie about what they spend money on.

You're bankroll and loud mouth aren't going to change that.
It's the nature of the beast.

Trump realizes this, instinctively, so he doesn't want to lose the good trying to chase the perfect.

Elon is fixated on it like it's life or death.

45 Detroit is getting a WNBA team!

And the local fox news station, as part of the promotion, included a picture of a women's basketball in the air... about to brick off the front of the rim.

Perfect.
Posted by: Formerly Virginian at July 01, 2025 03:34 PM (N1DT3)

When I'm watching a WNBA game, I always love the air-layups.

That's where a player attempts an open layup and misses the basket entirely.

46 I would probably like Massie more if I saw evidence of consistency in principle. I give Rand Paul a pass on all this because he has consistently stood against spending and debt limit increases -- it's practically his whole brand. He's no ally to the Democrats.

But I've literally never even heard of Massie before this term. Is he actually consistent when it comes to opposing spending increase and debt limit increases, or is he a Johnny-come-lately who just wants to get press for being a thorn in Trump's side?

47 > Oomph. Yowza. She's a beaut.
Posted by: wth at July 01, 2025 03:39 PM (v0R5T)

She's okay. Too heavy on the makeup for my taste.

48 Primary Massie - he frequently votes against the R's
I've had enough of his "Oh, I'm not antisemitic just anti-Israel or whatever" bs

Fuck him

49 President Trump on Tuesday said that he will look into prosecuting Biden Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas over his dereliction of duty in allowing the worst invasion of illegal aliens in history.

Dereliction of duty? How about sedition and treason?

50 Elon is a smart guy but he knows absolutely fuck-all bupkes about politics and he should probably refrain from having really strong public opinions about the process of getting anything passed through Congress with the raft of useless RINOs and outright turncoats that infest its halls.

51 People want to tread lightly with Musk. F that. He obviously used access for his own purposes and then proceeded to undermine Republicans using that knowledge. He’s a dreamer, not a realist nor acquainted with our government or its history in any way.

Like it or not, it’s about math and what will pass. It’s been that way since the first continental Congress. I suppose if you have a wide majority and at least 60 solid votes in the senate you can do the impossible. But that’s not happening anytime soon.

It’s really the ultimate betrayal by a guy who frames himself as an idealist, but is unattached to reality.

This bill isn’t perfect. I also believe there are a few seats we should go after from people who bent us over a barrel to spend more than we should and support the welfare process in their states. That includes the crank, Massie. If he’s Musk’s idea of a perfect candidate, he may want to stop smoking the cheeba. He’s exactly what needs to be smoked from the party.

Oh and bottom line, Trump is more popular with the party than Musk.

52 I've got to put up anything close to newsy.

* bugle playing 'Charge!' *

Let me help you out, Ace:

For you Morons hoping to score a bottle of Meghan Markle's As Ever rosé wine ($90 for a 3-pack) the good news is it's been released.

The bad news? It's already sold out.

53 Bob Vylan
@BobbyVylan
I swear, I’m gonna write a book for all the dumb dumbs in bands that can’t help but make terrible business decisions and cry about them later.
11:58 AM · Apr 14, 2021

54 https://shorturl.at/8P5OR

By the way, interesting article here comparing Elon's political ineptitude to the Whites in Russia's Civil War (the comparison makes sense, actually).

55 Have we talked about RFK possibly, maybe, uncovering that the CDC hid studies showing that Hepatitis B vaccines are linked to a 1135% increase in Autism?

56 Musk needs to read up on 'real politic', just a little.

57 Meh. I'm waiting for the Snow White sequel.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 01, 2025 03:34 PM (iFTx/)

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Edgar Wright could make a Snow White sequel or a new version of A Star is Born, and I'd still be there for it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at July 01, 2025 03:36 PM (GBKbO)
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Yea, but you love Prometheus so your shit's all fucked up! Wright is one of the most overrated directors out there.

58 Massie is annoying and called for January 6 protesters to be shot, he's not on my list of favorite people. I, too, want spending reduced and the debt eliminated, but I suspect his desires are not driven by small government integrity.

59 We want regular order was the cry. No more CRs they railed.

This bill sucks!!!!

60 There’s a great way to shrink the deficit and that’s to go back to the Obama tax rates. Is that now the official libertarian position?
Posted by: Maroon at July 01, 2025 03:39 PM (HS92B)

I don't know, it seems we've collectively decided to ignore the unsustainable deficits and long term debt.

But yes, if we were serious about it, I think we're at the point where we would likely need to increase taxes to try to cover our massive deficits. I don't think any short term growth from cutting additional taxes and/or keeping tax rates the same is going to close that gap.

But we're not serious about it, so we will continue to increase spending and not even try to pretend to make revenue cover the expenditures. And that'll keep working. Until it doesn't.

61 57 Yea, but you love Prometheus so your shit's all fucked up! Wright is one of the most overrated directors out there.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 01, 2025 03:42 PM (iFTx/)

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False!

Wonderful talent and energy!

62 42 While OrangeManBad and Elon are busy arguing who is going to primary useless twatwaffles like Thune and Cornyn?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 01, 2025 03:40 PM (ULPxl)

Paxton will take care of Cornyn.

63 I don't much care about Massie. We have a lot of unlikeable flakes in the party. I'd rather see the GOP come up with a plan to expand its numbers in the houseenough so that the flakes matter less.

64 "Does anyone else now have aversions to drinks or food they used to like when younger?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke"


Ummm...I ate red clay when I was a kid.
Posted by: eleven at July 01, 2025 03:28 PM (fV+MH)

Milk Bone Dog Biscuits

65 Tbh this has been obvious for quite some time. I also back in his celebrity days thought he was nothing but a narcissist.
Posted by: steevy at July 01, 2025 03:36 PM (YwEeS)

Massie, just voting NO is not a policy. Find specific problems and get a lobby to cut them, like Elon did with DOGE. You have to know where tons of money could be cut that would gain public support, that could be shoved in these bills to make progress.

66 Meh. I'm waiting for the Snow White sequel.

This is kind of unrelated but my mom used to always say that the romance stories were dumb because they always ended with the marriage. She said the romance BEGINS at the marriage, when the infatuation fades, and love is an every day effort.

Kind of like love songs. Marty Robbins has a wonderful song called My Woman, My Wife that is a love song to his wife. Not a lot of that out there.

67 Massie is a piece of shit that voted for the Biden Boondoggle that literally REMOVED the debt ceiling for the duration and let them pile up more debt than at any point in history.

But yeah, now that Trump's in office his precious 'principles' are TOTALLY about cutting spending.

It just shocks me that anybody lends any credence to this fraud.

68 Hey, it's a slow news day. Give me a break. I've got to put up anything close to newsy.

Posted by: Ace at 03:30 PM

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[O/T -- for clarity, Xwitter #1 of many explanations that followed:]

Senator Eric Schmitt
@SenEricSchmitt

The Big Beautiful Bill kicks 1.4 MILLION illegal immigrants off Medicaid.

For too long, Americans have been paying for the welfare of people who shouldn't even be in our country.

Today, the Senate voted to end that.

And yes—this DID make it into the final draft of the bill. 🧵

https://is.gd/olxTpj

69 Maybe we can really get rid of Murky next time, since so many of her DC frenz are going to be gone, and there's less graft money to send her way.

70 Hah! Coulda been a contender, instead of a bum, which let’s face it, is what I am! Was too busy finishing my comments in the last thread!

71 Wonderful talent and energy!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at July 01, 2025 03:43 PM

Thank you! I try.

72 Posted by: Marcus T at July 01, 2025 03:42 PM (iVCFV)

Seems he’s one of those really really smart guys who are really dumb about some things.

73 Last Night in Soho was dreck. And that Running Man preview looks equally awful.

74 Hey, it's a slow news day. Give me a break.

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The Kohberger plea seemed like more-than-side-bar news. Looks like the case was becoming a slam dunk for the death penalty and prosecutors granted a plea deal without consulting victim families. A lot of assumptions in that, but if it's wrong, why is the one family so upset about him getting life with no parole and no appeal; better than Nicole Brown Simpson's family got...? But if it's true he was headed for the death penalty, what kinda Idaho prosecutor would do this...?

75 I liked Sweet Tarts and then I didn't. Necco's are chalk.

They're both chalk but I still liked them when I stopped eating candy.

Does anyone else now have aversions to drinks or food they used to like when younger?

I used to love braunschweiger, and hate it now. I would eat every single bit of a chicken leg down to the bone and they kind of disgust me now.

76 ace, an open thread is your friend.

77 Yea, but you love Prometheus so your shit's all fucked up! Wright is one of the most overrated directors out there.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 01, 2025 03:42 PM (iFTx/)

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False!

Wonderful talent and energy!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at July 01, 2025 03:43 PM (GBKbO)
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Pretentious and boring! Baby Driver is a movie I should have loved. Wrong. I almost fell asleep. Maybe I did. Don't remember.

78 Meh. I'm waiting for the Snow White sequel.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 01, 2025 03:34 PM (iFTx/)

It is the story of how the King leaves her for a series of mistresses, dumping on her the job of keeping the kingdom in line during his extended "trips of state", while she splurges on purchasing shoes to console herself that she might have got lucky and turned out like Cinderella, that bitch, look at her, balls all the time and all she does is order the staff around and doesn't have to figure out how to afford 12 acres of Tulle twice a month and Prince Charming just writes a check. It's not like SHE has to keep mining infrastructure going, with those damned dwarves, no just dancing and buffets.

79 > Posted by: eleven at July 01, 2025 03:34 PM (fV+MH)

Hey, I want to apologize for calling you a communist earlier today.

Mistakes on all sides, I reckon.

80 I thought this was a reconciliation bill to get us over the no tax hike.I should.

Next year ( always next year), we'll make big cuts in the budget

81 77 Pretentious and boring! Baby Driver is a movie I should have loved. Wrong. I almost fell asleep. Maybe I did. Don't remember.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 01, 2025 03:45 PM (iFTx/)

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I can't imagine how one would call Baby Driver pretentious, or boring.

82 https://shorturl.at/8P5OR

By the way, interesting article here comparing Elon's political ineptitude to the Whites in Russia's Civil War (the comparison makes sense, actually).
Posted by: the lower depths at July 01, 2025 03:42 PM (+b4rY)

The Whites are another example of why just being against things is a political failure. Each cluster of Whites had different goals, area of support and they didn't coordinate with each other enough to keep the Reds on the ropes.

83 12 Musk is not wrong about the bill: it is objectively bad. Is it the best outcome possible given the makeup of Congress? I don’t know.
Posted by: Open Channel D at July 01, 2025 03:33 PM (gYnrv)

I'm not sure about it being objectively bad - simply extending the Trump Tax Cuts makes it worthwhile in my book. I think the better way to look at this is to see what the headlines would look like if the OBBB were to fail. The press would be spinning this as Trump has no power in his gov't. This take would hurt him in other areas, such as tariff negotiations. If he's not seen as the alpha, then it opens him up to stalled negotiations, which would hurt him going into the midterms. This stall tactic would then be used in every other area. A showing that he can get this legislation done in DC extends his 'aura' (my Zoomer son's term) into every aspect of this presidency.

When you look at the cui bono aspect of these talks, it's clear that the Dems, MFM, GOPe, EU, etc etc etc are all on the side of this failing. Simply because of that, it needs to pass.

I get Elon's antipathy, but a win for Trump here helps him get some real reform done next year. If he loses, it's over.

84 Eric Schmitt is the real deal, as far as any Senator can be worth much… reading this I realize it is faint praise…

85 Elon isn't stupid. He must know that the BBB is as good as it gets with the obstructionist Democrats. I have no idea why he is doing what he is doing. Support Rs in primaries that are onboard with your agenda, and complete the takeover of the Republican party. As someone pointed out... he bought Twitter and reformed it rather than starting a new app.

And Massie should realize that obstructionism isn't a platform for Republicans to get elected on in 2026.

86 Dear Tom;

Pointless defiance is never a good look.

Love, Franpsycho

87 I heard there were 11 million illegals on Medicaid, but I’ll take 1.4 million off the rolls, as a starter!

88 That he's diametrically opposing Trump so publicly because of a large spending bill going through Congress is really quite silly.

Posted by: SpeakingOf at July 01, 2025 03:40 PM (6ydKt)

Elon Musk spent a lot of money on Trumps election, undoubtably with an expectation that Trump would pay him back through govt subsidies and contracts.

Trump did not do that.

Elon Musk is now mad that he wasted his money.

He had a similar falling out with the Democrats a few years back. This was entirely predictable (and, in fact, I did predict it and got attacked for doing so).

I don't know why political nerds don't understand that most people are not ideological. They vote / donate based on their own perceived best interests, or based on vibes. People donate huge amounts of money to politicians because they think they're going to get something out of it, not because they're huge fans of political theory.

89 Seems he’s one of those really really smart guys who are really dumb about some things.

I think that applies to one degree or another to all of us, other than the really smart thing. We all have blind spots, the tough part is being wise enough and self aware enough to recognize that.

For example, I am really ignorant when it comes to raising kids and driving supercars around a track.

90 > Massie is annoying and called for January 6 protesters to be shot, he's not on my list of favorite people.

I don't know a lot about him. He seems to be a bit too reflexively contrarian and can't seem to do much coalition building.

91 We need the bill to pass it has some good things in it.

92 Next year ( always next year), we'll make big cuts in the budget
Posted by: JM in Illinois at July 01, 2025 03:46 PM

And they take effect 10 years out, but hey ... you do what you have to do to get invited to the right cocktail parties.

93 >> Milk Bone Dog Biscuits
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 01, 2025 03:43 PM (wVcYX)

The Milk Bone Peanut butter and Bacon bites are an excellent source of protein.

You dont want to know how I know that.

94 I just don’t like that the Republican asshole triad comes from Kentucky.

Kentucky voters are screwing with me all the way down in Texas.

95 91 We need the bill to pass it has some good things in it.
Posted by: tubal at July 01, 2025 03:48 PM (PCK5/)

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Returning to regular order is worth it on its own.

If the bill were worse than it currently is (it's in two forms right now, the House version much better than the Senate version), it'd still be worth it to get a cap on a lot of automatic CR spending.

96 Or the South in the Civil War where many states were extremely skeptical of any unification of command and control and authority from Richmond.

You can be so libertarian, that you let the commies screw you in the ass.

97 Elon isn't stupid. He must know that the BBB is as good as it gets with the obstructionist Democrats. I have no idea why he is doing what he is doing

Elon spent every year of his life up to around 2022 utterly apolitical and disinterested in politics. He's new at this, he hasn't gone through the ups and downs and learned how awful and evil and nasty it is. Its fresh to him and he's having the same frustrated, angry, bitter, and frightened feelings we all did when we started figuring this stuff out.

The difference is he has a gigantic megaphone, tons of fame, and nearly a trillion dollars of net worth at his disposal.

98 People donate huge amounts of money to politicians because they think they're going to get something out of it, not because they're huge fans of political theory.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 01, 2025 03:48 PM

You're a little young to be so cynical.

99 97 Elon spent every year of his life up to around 2022 utterly apolitical and disinterested in politics. He's new at this, he hasn't gone through the ups and downs and learned how awful and evil and nasty it is. Its fresh to him and he's having the same frustrated, angry, bitter, and frightened feelings we all did when we started figuring this stuff out.

The difference is he has a gigantic megaphone, tons of fame, and nearly a trillion dollars of net worth at his disposal.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2025 03:49 PM (dfIr7)

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He waited 6 hours to shake Obama's hand.

He wasn't disinterested and apolitical. He was a cultural Democrat.

100 Kentucky voters are screwing with me all the way down in Texas.
Posted by: polynikes at July 01, 2025 03:49 PM (VofaG)

This state is weird, that is all I can say.

101 Edgar Wright? Is a Cornetto Trilogy sequel in the works?

102 CRs (appropriations bills rolled into one, with a long duration vs. a brief place-holding duration) and reconciliation are not really related.

I'd imagine there's a Congressional Research Service document that lays out all the concepts and terminology.

Appropriations bills passed individually (there used to be 12, dunno now) can be just as disastrous and irresponsible as when they are rolled into a CR (also called an omnibus). The point of individual bills used to be that increased political accountability - both at committee-markup, and on the floor, roll call votes on individual issues*.

Rolling into omnibus/CRs, passing them within 48 hours, etc., of course completely removes all this from the process (though most parts still get committee mark-up).

* "GOP controlled" House Approps last week marked up an immigration-related bill, adopting - by voice vote - many provisions, some only advisory, that could have been in press releases from Mayorkas' DHS, or Catholic Charities, or La Raza. Enjoy!

103 WKYT dot com, 6/2/25
'Washington Post calls Massie, McConnell, Paul the ‘Bluegrass Resistance’

"While the overwhelming majority of Republicans cower in fear of primary challenger threats against anyone who opposes him, these Kentuckians brush aside the Trump bluster."

🤷‍♀️ It'll take a while to see how the voters feel.

104 I used to think the tiff between Elon and Donald was all kayfabe to convince people to stop vandalizing Teslas and put some distance between the two. But if so, it’s very convincing kayfabe! But let’s see if the two don’t reconcile in the next few weeks…

105 Listen, you can be libertatiany and mavericky but when the rubber hits the road, be a team player, or at least not a complete dickhead.

The Democrats never have to put up with this kind of bullsh*t.

106 When you look at the cui bono aspect of these talks, it's clear that the Dems, MFM, GOPe, EU, etc etc etc are all on the side of this failing. Simply because of that, it needs to pass.

I get Elon's antipathy, but a win for Trump here helps him get some real reform done next year. If he loses, it's over.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at July 01, 2025 03:46 PM (0CU3H)
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Agree. The BBB is not beautiful. It's a Hardees 5 after the janitor left and nobody is around to clean the toilets. But the BBB is better than the toothless bucktoothed smelly sasquatch with a penis that we've been sleeping with for 20 years. There's some good stuff in the BBB and its better than the non-budget process that we've been doing.

107 Musk was useful… turn the page.

108 94 I just don’t like that the Republican asshole triad comes from Kentucky.

Kentucky voters are screwing with me all the way down in Texas.
Posted by: polynikes at July 01, 2025 03:49 PM (VofaG)

Ahem!

109 The high water mark of people actually caring about the budget was probably 2012.

And then Obama won, spending continued out of control, covid happened, spending went wild, Biden got elected, spending went even wilder, and the country still isn't bankrupt.
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Some of you near 29 may recall the annual feature of the budget negotiations of the 80's and 90's (the last time we did budgets--and even a "balanced" budget) was the circus of the Blue Dog Democrat coalition that was totes gonna chart a middle path between the wild and crazy tax-n-spend liberals and the draconian spending cuts and tax give-aways of the Republicans.

It was a pile of horseshit that always only ever resulted in increased spending and more taxes.

But gol-durned them Blue Dogs were a'fightin' for Americans.

Moral of the story: Americans have never, in your lifetime, ever really gave a fuck about spending--they just want everyone to pretend like it is a problem, not DO anything about it.

110 Kentucky voters are screwing with me all the way down in Texas.
Posted by: polynikes at July 01, 2025 03:49 PM

* waves *

111 it's clear that the Dems, MFM, GOPe, EU, etc etc etc are all on the side of this failing. Simply because of that, it needs to pass.
......

Best "in a nutshell" argument for the BBB I've heard all day.

112 Trump has started blasting the airwaves here running attack ads on Massie.

Notably, it is probably way to early for Massie to start seriously campaigning.

Who is running this poll, btw? Cause I ain't heard from anyone. Massie is pretty dang popular around here.

113 The Kohberger plea seemed like more-than-side-bar news. Looks like the case was becoming a slam dunk for the death penalty and prosecutors granted a plea deal without consulting victim families. A lot of assumptions in that, but if it's wrong, why is the one family so upset about him getting life with no parole and no appeal; better than Nicole Brown Simpson's family got...? But if it's true he was headed for the death penalty, what kinda Idaho prosecutor would do this...?
Posted by: bearski at July 01, 2025 03:45 PM (Bhsk7)

I don't know much about the case, but I'd say most prosecutors would rather take a plea than go to trial. Prosecutors live and die by their conviction rates, and you never know which way a jury is going to go.

As far as the family's input? I hate to be blunt about it, but they're not really part of the process here. In our legal system, the aggrieved party is the state, not the family.

114 LOL. Pixar's Elio was originally GAY GAY GAY, but test audiences hated it. So the top brass changed it. But the audience yawned and it flopped. Now the GAY GAY GAY Pixar employees are lashing out because they wanted their "queer-coded" Elio released.

So Pixar's getting hammered from inside and from outside.

http://tiny.cc/qdfo001

115 >> Seems he’s one of those really really smart guys who are really dumb about some things.
Posted by: polynikes at July 01, 2025 03:45 PM (VofaG)

Musk largely functions on pathos. You can’t act that way in Washington. You have to understand what the rules are and how to win the game. To be really good you have to be like Trump and be willing to risk it all for principle. Musk isn’t that guy. He’s not someone you want on your team because it’s all about him in the end. Period.

116 Hey, it's a slow news day. Give me a break. I've got to put up anything close to newsy.

From yesterday (not sure if it was mentioned here):

Former Presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush delivered rare open criticism of the Trump administration — and singer Bono held back tears as he recited a poem — in an emotional video farewell on Monday with staffers of the U.S. Agency for International Development.

Monday was the last day as an independent agency for the six-decade-old humanitarian and development organization...

This is all so crazy. And the way Big Orange has his followers cheering this on after inspiring in them such animosity toward the rest of the world, and to the poor. I feel like I'm stuck in a moment and I can't get out of it.

Musk called this program a, "criminal enterprise." I'm sure because its saved millions of lives in other countries, promoting good will for our country. Sliding it over to the State Dept., and calling it, "America First," tells you exactly what this admin has in mind.

Bush should shut his pie hole. He didn't want to endorse Kamala, and his silence was pretty damning.

117 The Milk Bone Peanut butter and Bacon bites are an excellent source of protein.

You dont want to know how I know that.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 01, 2025 03:48 PM (iVCFV)

Consumer Reports?

118 Iraq Claims Top Spot Among OPEC Crude Suppliers To The US

Rising oil exports provide vital fiscal support for Iraq, where crude sales generate about 90% of government revenue

... at last, the oil for all that blood

119 Pretentious and boring! Baby Driver is a movie I should have loved. Wrong. I almost fell asleep. Maybe I did. Don't remember.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 01, 2025 03:45 PM (iFTx/)

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I can't imagine how one would call Baby Driver pretentious, or boring.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at July 01, 2025 03:46 PM (GBKbO)
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The Blade knows film

120 Trumps next rally needs to have Poke Salad Annie (Gator's got your granny) as his walk up song. BTW can any southern moron help me on what the hell is poke salad?

121 ‘ And now Trump and Musk are on opposite sides of Massie's reelection. ’

Is there any chance Trump and Musk are running the Good Cop/Bad Cop play on the Republican Party?

122 Yea, but you love Prometheus so your shit's all fucked up! Wright is one of the most overrated directors out there.
Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 01, 2025 03:42 PM (iFTx/)


Wright needs Simon Pegg at his side.

123 >>> I think the better way to look at this is to see what the headlines would look like if the OBBB were to fail.

The media has already written them. If it fails -- or even if it just doesn't get passed by the 4th -- the media will crow that Trump is impotent and his plans are all failing. That he lied on "promises made promises kept" and is just another politician that promises bigly and doesn't ever deliver.

Worst case scenario, IF that actually resonates with the independents and fence sitters that voted for him, that aren't full MAGA, it could sink republicans in the midterms.

124 96 Or the South in the Civil War where many states were extremely skeptical of any unification of command and control and authority from Richmond.

You can be so libertarian, that you let the commies screw you in the ass.
Posted by: Kurt Cobain at July 01, 2025 03:49 PM (zZu0s)

The most extreme case of this was when Lee's Army, defending Richmond, was running short of shoes, blankets, and ammunition. Georgia had plenty of all 3 in warehouses that it controlled; but the Georgia Governor said he thought that his home guard forces needed them more, so he refused to send any of it. Confederate Government had no authority to override him, not even when their survival was on the line.

125 He wasn't disinterested and apolitical. He was a cultural Democrat.

Yeah but at a fanboy level, not political. He didn't love Obama because he loved Obama's policies and technical aspects of how things get done in Washington. He just bought into the "Obama is cool" thing.

126 Go take a look at Massie’s voting record. He’s a guy who wakes up every day trying to get to no.

127 From Senator Eric Schmitt:

The Big Beautiful Bill kicks 1.4 MILLION illegal immigrants off Medicaid.

For too long, Americans have been paying for the welfare of people who shouldn't even be in our country.

Today, the Senate voted to end that.

And yes—this DID make it into the final draft of the bill.

(long thread, spaces)

https://x.com/SenEricSchmitt/
status/1940116528365506892

128 Massie should emigrate to Germany. I think he might like it there.

https://tinyurl.com/56r7kjvc

129 116 This is all so crazy. And the way Big Orange has his followers cheering this on after inspiring in them such animosity toward the rest of the world, and to the poor. I feel like I'm stuck in a moment and I can't get out of it.

Musk called this program a, "criminal enterprise." I'm sure because its saved millions of lives in other countries, promoting good will for our country. Sliding it over to the State Dept., and calling it, "America First," tells you exactly what this admin has in mind.

Bush should shut his pie hole. He didn't want to endorse Kamala, and his silence was pretty damning.
Posted by: Intercepted DU Transmissions brought by the Intrepid AoS Liaison at July 01, 2025 03:51 PM (JCZqz)

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Sounds like Africa needs to start fixing its outlook on property rights in order to grow crops regularly and without interruption.

*regards South Africa briefly*

130 Attorneys Push For Class Action In Birthright Citizenship Case After Supreme Court Ruling

The Supreme Court’s decision on June 27 left open the possibility of judges broadly blocking Trump’s policies through class actions

131 singer Bono held back tears as he recited a poem — in an emotional video farewell on Monday with staffers of the U.S. Agency for International Development.

My favorite ice cream flavor. Lib tears.

132 I don't know which is worse, RINOs or these principled pricks. In Maine, the insufferable Susan Collins will be the state's last Republicanish senator. Look at Maine's governor, for chrissakes. That's the trajectory.

And then there's these Kentucky assholes who pretend thwarting conservativism is better than incrimentalism.

Now that I think about it, Maine and Kentucky have got to be top five states for inbreeding.

133 it's clear that the Dems, MFM, GOPe, EU, etc etc etc are all on the side of this failing. Simply because of that, it needs to pass.
......

Best "in a nutshell" argument for the BBB I've heard all day.

……

This is probably the best way to look at it.

134 Former Presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush delivered rare open criticism of the Trump administration

Rare????

135

Elon must not remember the idiot Harry Browne and all the asshole libertarians that have existed before and don't jack shit.

I remember seeing Browne on Mahers show or somewhere years ago. He was loving himself long time, loved being the "neutral" commentator who could disagree with both sides.

It was then that I knew he was nothing more than a gadfly. Reason mag soon turned into light Commie, Liberty mag too.

People are ugly and messy, politics is just like people. I mean, this Thune guy got installed for some reason by the GOP. If they can do that out in the open, how is a libertarian going to get anything done. Especially a hardcore one, who is probably totally full of shit.

136 He waited 6 hours to shake Obama's hand.

He wasn't disinterested and apolitical. He was a cultural Democrat.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at July 01, 2025 03:50 PM (GBKbO)

Yeah, he was a huge Obama fan and a fan favorite of Democrat voters and elected officials for a decade. Then he switched sides, allegedly over COVID and his son going trans.

Want to bet he switches back if he thinks the next president will be a democrat?

137 31 Edgar Wright could make a Snow White sequel or a new version of A Star is Born, and I'd still be there for it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu

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Eh, he's just the next version of Guy Ritchie. Great stuff early out (Lock Stock + Snatch = Shaun, Hot Fuzz, Scott Pilgrim), then married Madonna (did Edgar Wright marry some leftist twat in 2011?) and his sh*t sucked for 10 years, then ditched her and kinda made good stuff every now and then.

Running Man is already Leftist / anti-American. It was campy fun enough with Arnold and Richard Dawson etc. We don't need a modern 'hip' anti-American film. That pattern is full...

138 I used to think the tiff between Elon and Donald was all kayfabe to convince people to stop vandalizing Teslas and put some distance between the two. But if so, it’s very convincing kayfabe! But let’s see if the two don’t reconcile in the next few weeks…
Posted by: NemoMeImpuneLacessit at July 01, 2025 03:51 PM (1paM0)

I wonder though, who would a third party take votes from?
Would they be moderate Dems, horrified at the Socialist policies of the DNC elite? Or the populists in the Republican party horrified at the blindness of the GOPe?

139 Massie is annoying and called for January 6 protesters to be shot, he's not on my list of favorite people. I, too, want spending reduced and the debt eliminated, but I suspect his desires are not driven by small government integrity.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2025 03:42 PM (dfIr7)

Did Massie call for J6ers do be shot?

He actually seemed to be, pretty early, calling into question possible government involvement in J6.

140 Former Presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush delivered rare open criticism of the Trump administration

Rare????
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2025 03:54 PM (dfIr7)
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In other news, I just took the rare act of breathing

141 After 100.

Eiffel Tower closes early amid European heat wave.

142 53 Bob Vylan
@BobbyVylan
I swear, I’m gonna write a book for all the dumb dumbs in bands that can’t help but make terrible business decisions and cry about them later.
11:58 AM · Apr 14, 2021
Posted by: SMOD
...............................
LoL!!!!!

The Internet is a harsh mistress.

143 127 From Senator Eric Schmitt:

The Big Beautiful Bill kicks 1.4 MILLION illegal immigrants off Medicaid.

For too long, Americans have been paying for the welfare of people who shouldn't even be in our country.

Today, the Senate voted to end that.

And yes—this DID make it into the final draft of the bill.

(long thread, spaces)

Posted by: Ann at July 01, 2025 03:53 PM (4neFu)

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Okay, that video of the amendment vote did confuse me. I assumed the narrative around it was true, though, and that it had been taken out.

And now here's a Senator saying it's actually in.

That's nice. I feel a bit better about the Senate version now.

Not that my feelings matter. Or that I actually have them.

I am dead inside.

144 I wonder if the Euro Smell is overpowering??

145 Elon just wants to go to Mars. I think he views everything through the lens of "is this an assist or an impediment to me getting to Mars" so his politics wind up a little all over the place. Especially when you factor in the aspergers.

146 17 I no longer care about the federal budget. Accounting and monetary policy are both witchcraft on their own, let alone combined.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at July 01, 2025 03:34 PM (B9Prs)

Find a zealot to balance the budget and a numbers person who can hit a curve ball for the FED and you'll bend all sorts of curves in your favor.

Trouble is, if you try to get there in one year, you'll likely kill the patient.

147 113 As far as the family's input? I hate to be blunt about it, but they're not really part of the process here. In our legal system, the aggrieved party is the state, not the family.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

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I thought a prosecutor would at least discuss with the victim's family before accepting, as a courtesy if nothing else. Especially in a red(?) jurisdiction... But maybe that's because all the law I know is from Law & Order...

148 According to Rubio, USAID has sent out its last penny and is shuttered.

149 Guy Ritchie did a good job with Fountain of Youth. Interesting angles, etc. The opening sequence was very fun.

150 149 Guy Ritchie did a good job with Fountain of Youth. Interesting angles, etc. The opening sequence was very fun.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 01, 2025 03:57 PM (ky8PV)

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His King Arthur is underappreciated.

Lovecraftian.

151 People donate huge amounts of money to politicians because they think they're going to get something out of it, not because they're huge fans of political theory.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 01, 2025 03:48 PM

You're a little young to be so cynical.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at July 01, 2025 03:50 PM (0sNs1)

I don't think it's cynical. It's just the way the world works.

152 ‘ Bush should shut his pie hole.’

For once, I agree with the Rats underground.

153 Senate fails to terminate Green New Scam

Let the filthy green lucre start roiling in again boys.

Why do I vote R again?

154 For years. I voted libertarian, when they had good candidates.

155 The BBB is a bill and not a CR. Good! Also making Trump’s tax cuts permanent is a win! Even dropping taxes on tips is a plus, so I’ll take it! Now…how to make all my income count as tips…hhmmm?!

156 >>> 62
==
Paxton will take care of Cornyn.
Posted by: Cow Demon at July 01, 2025 03:43 PM (BugZp)

Ha, I should have remembered that!

... also your hash seems appropriate for Paxton vs Cornyn.

157 Okay, that video of the amendment vote did confuse me. I assumed the narrative around it was true, though, and that it had been taken out.

And now here's a Senator saying it's actually in.

That's nice. I feel a bit better about the Senate version now.

Not that my feelings matter. Or that I actually have them.

I am dead inside.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at July 01, 2025 03:56 PM (GBKbO)

Illiteracy does that to a person.

158 Wide Awake Media @wideawake_media

BREAKING NEWS: The entire country of Germany has been submerged with molten lava as a result of normal summer temperatures.

X image: https://bit.ly/4kC88TT

159 For years. I voted libertarian, when they had good candidates.

...so, never? In my entire life of almost 60 years I cannot remember a single good libertarian candidate

160 @141

>>Eiffel Tower closes early amid European heat wave.

It's 94 with very low humidity.

Freaking pansies.

161 148 According to Rubio, USAID has sent out its last penny and is shuttered.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2025 03:56 PM (dfIr7)

Oh Frabjous Day, Calloo Callay!!
Comes to my arms my Beamish Rubio!!

162 157 Illiteracy does that to a person.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 01, 2025 03:58 PM (ky8PV)

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Such cruelty.

Ace-worthy.

163 >>> Elon isn't stupid. He must know that the BBB is as good as it gets with the obstructionist Democrats. I have no idea why he is doing what he is doing.

I said this yesterday, but Elon is in his naive, idealistic "Mr Elon Goes to Washington" era. Trump was in that era back in 2016, he gets it now. But it takes a while to truly learn.

There are stages of grief for the uninitiated in politics. It's harsh to realize it isn't pure, it's swampy and requires compromise, and won't go your way just because you want good things. Especially if you are a businessmen used to getting what you want all the time. Elon is currently in his "anger" stage of grief.

164 The BBB is far from good but its better then what we've been doing.

So if you want budget discipline shouldn't you be in favor of moving in the right direction?

Unfortunately the Republicans get the Dems steal 4 senate seats and a dozen house seats on election night so they have little room to maneuver on the budget and the Dems are not going to join them since they are all leftwing lunatics...

165 doing my part to add news to slow news day -

HOUSTON (Alliance Defending Freedom) — Alliance Defending Freedom attorneys filed a federal lawsuit Monday on behalf of a Texas family after a Houston school district repeatedly flouted their requests to stop treating their daughter as a boy—a so-called “social transition.”

In March 2025, ADF attorneys sent a letter to the district on behalf of the Osborn family asking it to confirm that the couple’s daughter would only be referred to by her given name and correct pronouns, and ADF asked the district to provide documents related to the events that occurred. The school district did not provide any documents and ignored the Osborns request that they stop treating their daughter as a boy. The Osborns had no choice but to file a lawsuit against the district to stop them from continuing this action.

166 King Arthur was a very good movie…

167 Hey, it's a slow news day. Give me a break. I've got to put up anything close to newsy.

Posted by Ace at 03:30 PM Comments

So where's the gorn?

168 And grok agrees with Schmitt:

https://x.com/grok/status/
1940125244880297990

So, neat.

169 Is Elon going to recruit Massey into his Muskrat Party?

170 Sun can't melt steel.

171 "For too long, Americans have been paying for the welfare of people who shouldn't even be in our country."

To put a finer point on it, we can't afford to borrow the money from Beijing to pay for their benefits

172 Musk and Trump have two different ideal outcomes here. At this point in the game I think Musk is being more idealistic than he should be.

173 Bob Vylan
@BobbyVylan
I swear, I’m gonna write a book for all the dumb dumbs in bands that can’t help but make terrible business decisions and cry about them later.
11:58 AM · Apr 14, 2021
Posted by: SMOD
...............................
LoL!!!!!

The Internet is a harsh mistress.
Posted by: Puddleglum, cheer up for the worst is yet to come at July 01, 2025 03:56 PM (sAmhv)
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That post was from 2021. He musta been talking about something else. The karma!

174 148 According to Rubio, USAID has sent out its last penny and is shuttered.
____

burn it down and salt the ashes

175 134 Former Presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush delivered rare open criticism of the Trump administration

Rare????
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
........................................
USAID getting neutered must have really hurt there grifts.

176 BREAKING NEWS: The entire country of Germany has been submerged with molten lava as a result of normal summer temperatures.

I like the side by side pictures people have been posting of European temperature maps from 20 years ago with the same numbers, but back then they didn't put up scary colors...

177 150 His King Arthur is underappreciated. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu

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It looked like a hackey moneygrab. But I've been half-interested in it after how bad@ss Charlie Hunnam was in The Gentlemen...

178 I thought a prosecutor would at least discuss with the victim's family before accepting, as a courtesy if nothing else. Especially in a red(?) jurisdiction... But maybe that's because all the law I know is from Law & Order...
Posted by: bearski at July 01, 2025 03:56 PM (Bhsk7)

It is a requirement that the victims family is notified ahead of time in some states. But I think its more common in blue states, although I don't know that for sure. In some states, there is a job known as some flavor of "victim advocate" -- basically a social worker type who deals with the victim and/or his family and keeps them updated on the case and whatnot.

That may not be the case in Idaho, I have no idea.

I'm not against there being a victim advocate by the way. I think it is important for victims and their families to feel like they are part of the process, even if, legally speaking, they are not. And for good reason! In a lot of tribal law systems in the ME, for example, the family decides on the punishment. That leads to rich criminals being able to bribe poor victims families to decide to not punish them or only minimally punish the. That's not exactly the system of justice we want to emulate.

179 Musk largely functions on pathos. You can’t act that way in Washington. You have to understand what the rules are and how to win the game. To be really good you have to be like Trump and be willing to risk it all for principle. Musk isn’t that guy. He’s not someone you want on your team because it’s all about him in the end. Period.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 01, 2025 03:51 PM (iVCFV)

Actually he's great to have on your team, because he can do great things - but you gotta know you're gonna have to jettison him at some point. So get as much out of him while you can.

180 ShainS, thanks for that.

I am *still* not entirely clear on the substance or procedural details, but Sen. Schmitt is claiming flat out that the "original" ban on Medicaid for illegals* was always in the bill, and the failed amendment didn't affect that.

One interesting point he made, related to my dull dissertation above about CRs and such - he said yesterday's "failed" amendment was a "messaging" vote (we called them "walk the plank" votes) to get Dems to vote against barring Medicaid to violent criminal illegals. So at least there are signs of some political life in the Senate, again. BTW this explains why 4-6 Dems actually voted with GOP on this one - all of them up this cycle of course.

* did not check, friend advises a 1996 law already bars Medicaid to illegals - if so, why TF wasn't a suit filed on Jan. 21, 2025 on this against the blue (and probably some red) states doing this?

181 177 150 His King Arthur is underappreciated. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu

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It looked like a hackey moneygrab. But I've been half-interested in it after how bad@ss Charlie Hunnam was in The Gentlemen...
Posted by: bearski at July 01, 2025 04:01 PM (Bhsk7)

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It was part of a larger studio effort to make cinematic universes out of cheap (mostly public domain) properties. There were 6 movies planned.

Still, the one that did get made is fun. I like it. I have the 4K.

182 Bilwis, etc. -

Trouble is, if you try to get there in one year, you'll likely kill the patient.

Agreed! It took us over a hundred years to get in this mess, we’re not going to get out of it overnight!

183 The next fun camp for illegals should be built in Crawford, TX. Right next to that treasonous cocksucker George Bush's ranch.

184 Massie is a grandstanding, showboating Libertarian opportunist who latched onto the GOP like a bloodsucking lamprey because (for some mysterious reason) the Libertarian Party's otherworldly policy ideas and stoned-while-campaigning style don't seem to catch on with the voting public. Go figure. I'm glad he's getting primaried and pray he loses bigly.

I hope Elon Musk wastes millions pouring money into the big black hole of Massie's campaign because I'm just about done with Musk, too. Everything Trump is doing works. Don't screw with what works.

185 Have the Euros unwrapped the mysteries of airconditioning yet?

186 Why do I vote R again?
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 01, 2025 03:57 PM (/U5Yz)

Otherwise the Dems will win!!

187 The left: Any claims there are ANY undocumented workers collecting any government benefits is a LIE

Also the left: If we ban Medicaid for undocumented immigrants 1.4M people will no longer have healthcare coverage!!!

188 Oh.. I was talking about the 2004 King Arthur movie… nevermind.

189 66 Meh. I'm waiting for the Snow White sequel.

This is kind of unrelated but my mom used to always say that the romance stories were dumb because they always ended with the marriage. She said the romance BEGINS at the marriage, when the infatuation fades, and love is an every day effort.

Kind of like love songs. Marty Robbins has a wonderful song called My Woman, My Wife that is a love song to his wife. Not a lot of that out there.
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It starts with Lust then comes Intimacy. Then Love can take root. A lot of people confuse Lust and Love.

190 Have the Euros unwrapped the mysteries of airconditioning yet?

Using AC will make baby Gaia cry

191 I wonder if the Euro Smell is overpowering??
Posted by: tubal at July 01, 2025 03:56 PM (PCK5/)

Back in the 70's Europe smelled like good pussy.

192 43 Ethington needs a new website. Holy shit is it bad. Like something from 1980s BBS. And she should lay off the heavily filtered photos. She's an attractive lady. No need to look like a THOT.

https://www.nikileecongress.com/

Posted by: Elric The (One and Only) Blade at July 01, 2025 03:40 PM (iFTx/)

That probably takes more money than her campaign currently has...

193 Have the Euros unwrapped the mysteries of airconditioning yet?
Posted by: Boss Moss
Soon.
They are still working on the science of modern dentistry.

194 Hillbilly Massie thinks pulling the old Luap Nor Act of voting against all the bad pork and pretending the deficit is against his principles but always getting his pork will work on the hillbillies in his district, because it does.

Fuck him in his brown eye.

195 France has nuclear power. They should be OK.

196 A good example of the fiscal discipline of people living off other's money is Great Expectations, where Pip and his roommate, facing the regular depletion of their funds due to their profligate spending habits, sit down and furiously scribble figures to chart austerity and solvency.
Complete with solemn vows to adhere to their budget from now on.

Until the next stipend arrives.

Upon which they immediately depart their rooms and resume their spendthrift ways.

This too, is Congress.

197 "Hey, I want to apologize for calling you a communist earlier today.

Mistakes on all sides, I reckon.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia"


No problemo.

198 She said the romance BEGINS at the marriage, when the infatuation fades, and love is an every day effort.

Hmm, the tingles are gone. After we got married I got Mr Right to take that corporate jobs and now he is boring as hell. He claims he has to work all week instead of planning romantic adventures?!?

Where is that divorce lawyer's phone number again?

199 BREAKING NEWS: The entire country of Germany has been submerged with molten lava as a result of normal summer temperatures.
X image: https://bit.ly/4kC88TT

Like staring into the Crack of Doom in Mordor.

200 197 "Hey, I want to apologize for calling you a communist earlier today.

Mistakes on all sides, I reckon.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia"


No problemo.
Posted by: eleven at July 01, 2025 04:05 PM (fV+MH)

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Why are you communists apologizing to each other?

201 Running Man had to be the most 80's thing that ever 80'ed.

202 Amash is my former Congressman and a POS. He ran as libertarian but his family business ties to China came first in his every position that he weasel worded his "stand" on.

Musk should stay far away from him.

203 201 Running Man had to be the most 80's thing that ever 80'ed.
Posted by: eleven at July 01, 2025 04:06 PM (fV+MH)

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According to science, that title belongs to Rocky IV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgTVPydfmoc

204 Media fannin the flames of personal problems amongst Repubs...

205 200 197 "Hey, I want to apologize for calling you a communist earlier today.

Mistakes on all sides, I reckon.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia"


No problemo.
Posted by: eleven at July 01, 2025 04:05 PM (fV+MH)

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Why are you communists apologizing to each other?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at July 01, 2025 04:06 PM (GBKbO)

Indeed. Camaraderie is a commie trait. Comrade.

206 159 For years. I voted libertarian, when they had good candidates.

...so, never? In my entire life of almost 60 years I cannot remember a single good libertarian candidate
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Dude, thanks for the support. If you're living life the right way, man, of course you won't remember past candidates (takes deep bong hit). Maaaan, I can't even remember last week (giggles uncontrollably...)

207 Wes Roley was allegedly a “Broney” (a boy interested in My Little Pony)

208 "Hey, it's a slow news day."

I just looked around for some news, and you're correct.

209 Meh. I'm waiting for the Snow White sequel.

This is kind of unrelated but my mom used to always say that the romance stories were dumb because they always ended with the marriage. She said the romance BEGINS at the marriage, when the infatuation fades, and love is an every day effort.

Kind of like love songs. Marty Robbins has a wonderful song called My Woman, My Wife that is a love song to his wife. Not a lot of that out there.
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It starts with Lust then comes Intimacy. Then Love can take root. A lot of people confuse Lust and Love.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 01, 2025 04:03 PM (W3T6M)
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Gotta love the lust!

210 Why are you communists apologizing to each other?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at July 01, 2025 04:06 PM

You're paid to comment, not dance around like a bunch of Kansas City Bolsheviks.

211 Back in the 70's Europe smelled like good pussy.

Shag carpet on the floor and shag carpet on la donna....

212 The next fun camp for illegals should be built in Crawford, TX. Right next to that treasonous cocksucker George Bush's ranch.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 01, 2025 04:02 PM (/U5Yz)

Better yet, Kelo his land.

213 >>> 183 The next fun camp for illegals should be built in Crawford, TX. Right next to that treasonous cocksucker George Bush's ranch.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 01, 2025 04:02 PM (/U5Yz)

YES!

Upwind of his ranch.

214 160 @141

>>Eiffel Tower closes early amid European heat wave.

It's 94 with very low humidity.

Freaking pansies.
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Its suppose to be 100 in Germany tomorrow and we stopped fire bombing the place a long time ago.

215 Maybe on slow news days we can get weather reports?

216 Can’t remember when the last funny movie was made… humor is a casualty of Wokeism..

217 The VP candidate in 2016 for the LP was one of the most authoritarian people to run for higher office in the US.

Yay "Libertarian" Party

218 @IanJaeger29
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43m
BREAKING: USAID is no longer giving out funds, per Secretary of State Marco Rubio.

219 If Musk founds an actual modern-day Bull Moose Party we have to boycott it. Teddy’s ill-fated Bull Moose run got us Wilson as president, and that man was the start of most of our present-day troubles!

220 @203

>>According to science, that title belongs to Rocky IV.


My monies on Hardbodies, feathered hair, pastel clothing, bikinis, gratuitous nudity, ribald fun that would get a filmmaker canceled today.

221 I believe some of the "USAID going away" = its functions, budgets, and direct oversight moving to regional bureaus of State. At least this is what Rubio said out of the gate. Makes sense. The outlandish nonsense that almost certainly started in the Obama years (WRT much of the programming) was no part of the picture before that, and much of the activity - especially emergency humanitarian relief - is long-standing and pretty non-controversial.

A friendly reforming state like El Salvador gets walloped with a massive earthquake, or a volcanic disaster, we're not going to simply look on. And I doubt State is eliminating the mechanisms or $ to respond.

222 Amazing how we can get rid of one “maverick “ in the GOP, and then another one springs up to replace him.



So very tired of this game - McCain wore it out 20+ years ago.

223 Blazing Saddles for the cancellation win....

224 US captured cannibal illegal migrant who tried to eat his own arms during deportation flight, Kristi Noem reveals in wild press conference
(HY Post, not The Onion)


https://tinyurl.com/y7xs6hae

225 BREAKING: USAID is no longer giving out funds, per Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
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Extra credit for Rubio if USAID starts taking in funds.

226 Its suppose to be 100 in Germany tomorrow and we stopped fire bombing the place a long time ago.
Posted by: pudinhead at July 01, 2025 04:08 PM (W3T6M)

It was 100 in NYC last week, and we survived.

Of course, we also have air conditioning and an electric grid that can (usually) handle that.

227 Can’t remember when the last funny movie was made… humor is a casualty of Wokeism..
Posted by: tubal at July 01, 2025 04:08 PM

I thought Free Guy was lighthearted, albeit, not laugh out loud funny.

It was a smiler.

228 165 doing my part to add news to slow news day -

HOUSTON (Alliance Defending Freedom) — Alliance Defending Freedom attorneys filed a federal lawsuit Monday on behalf of a Texas family after a Houston school district repeatedly flouted their requests to stop treating their daughter as a boy—a so-called “social transition.”
Posted by: Chuck Martel

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!!!! My wife just sent me the Texas Scorecard link to this story. The principal named in the lawsuit lived 8 doors down from us until a coupla years ago when he transferred to Bellaire from Waltrip, mostly cuz Waltrip is awful and his oldest was moving into high school; he actually had them in the same Lutheran school as ours for elementary, also why he transferred to the 'better' school zone to avoid the controversy of principal in public school with kids in private; since he left, Waltrip has gone to complete hell. And our neighborhood (and much of Bellaire) is middle-upper gentrified turf. This guy didn't seem so bad, but you can't advance in a public school district and keep your soul. He deserves this for what he's doing. Wouldn't agree to call the kid the name and pronouns the parents demanded!!

229 I heard Browneye had a motorcycle gang member for a father, a restraining order from his parents, and an altercation involving a girl and a knife.

230 216 Can’t remember when the last funny movie was made… humor is a casualty of Wokeism..
Posted by: tubal at July 01, 2025 04:08 PM (PCK5/)

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This is why God created Taskmaster.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4YhsooE5xY

231 Oh my... Obama and Bush try to drum up support to keep US Aid alive... because both parties used it for slush funds?

232 So we are back to the Republicans voting for big bloated spending bills to get tax cuts passed?

233 Running Man had to be the most 80's thing that ever 80'ed.
Posted by: eleven at July 01, 2025 04:06 PM (fV+MH)

You could argue the music too.

The 80s were pretty bad culturally.

And I don't think it's gotten much better since.

234 https://www.tiktok.com/discover/
europeans-react-to-air-conditioning

https://www.tiktok.com/@atfrenchies/
video/7269068796118256939
"Ah Europeans and their "science," we just call it being "soft" in America."

235 170 Sun can't melt steel.
Posted by: Boss Moss

YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT!!!

236 224 US captured cannibal illegal migrant who tried to eat his own arms during deportation flight, Kristi Noem reveals in wild press conference
(HY Post, not The Onion)


https://tinyurl.com/y7xs6hae
Posted by: Kindltot - remember, profit is violence and choice is a tool of the oppressor at July 01, 2025 04:09 PM (D7oie)

Diversity is our strength.

Also, didn't Joe Biden's uncle get eaten by a cannibal or something? I can see why Uncle Joe wanted this kind of diversity here.

237 Or the South in the Civil War where many states were extremely skeptical of any unification of command and control and authority from Richmond.

You can be so libertarian, that you let the commies screw you in the ass.
Posted by: Kurt Cobain at July 01, 2025 03:49 PM (zZu0s)

Given that Jeff Davis kept giving jobs to Braxton Bragg, they may have had a point.

But the poster child for state obstructionism, Vance from North Carolina, gets something of a bad rap. Theres a story about him holding uniforms instead of giving them to the Army of Northern VA, but on the other hand the state had paid for those uniforms out of their own state funds. Given the lack of diplomatic skill of Davis, I doubt that the states were entirely in the wrong.

And the supply problems Lee had were mostly because Davis' supporting another incompetent as the commissary. When he was replaced, even with the nation collapsing the supply situation was much improved in 1865

238 The 80s were all about my generation telling our parents "Fuck you, I'm getting a haircut and a job."

239 >>Oh my... Obama and Bush try to drum up support to keep US Aid alive... because both parties used it for slush funds?

Among other things.

240 217 The VP candidate in 2016 for the LP was one of the most authoritarian people to run for higher office in the US.

Yay "Libertarian" Party
Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2025 04:08 PM (t0Rmr)

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I've said it before, but 2016 was the year the LP could have become serious. The year they could have taken dissatisfaction from both parties, in particular the GOP, and gotten a real foothold in American politics by hitting 5% of the popular vote and then accepting federal funding of elections from then on.

Instead, they intentionally tanked it.

They now get fewer votes in presidential elections percentage wise than they did in the 90s.

241 231: Yep.

242 100 degrees in Germany! Isn’t that hot enough to boil water (go metric with me here)?! Oh noes! Gerbil Warming!

243 In my entire life of almost 60 years I cannot remember a single good libertarian candidate
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

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We were gonna have good candidates, but then we got high

244 @Ace: "Hey, it's a slow news day. Give me a break. I've got to put up anything close to newsy."

You could always elaborate on the link that J.J. Sefton provided this morning: "Toronto Zoo Hires Drag Queen Who Posts Naked Photos Online To Read To Kids"

And then include this page that I found on the Toronto Zoo's website.
https://tinyurl.com/bd44cbpk

Put those two things together.

"Oh HELL no."

245 222 Amazing how we can get rid of one “maverick “ in the GOP, and then another one springs up to replace him.



So very tired of this game - McCain wore it out 20+ years ago.
Posted by: Lizzy at July 01, 2025 04:09 PM (Hkcdp)

There are always two... a Master and an Apprentice....

OH... wait... no longer Cannon...

246 216 Can’t remember when the last funny movie was made… humor is a casualty of Wokeism..
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I am of the opinion Dave Chapelle was encouraged to step aside so as not to interfere with the Ascension of Sparky to the WH.

247 Ssssssss

248 H1B Musk can go jump in a lake. Yeah, I member.

249 Can’t remember when the last funny movie was made… humor is a casualty of Wokeism..
Posted by: tubal at July 01, 2025 04:08 PM (PCK5/)

Last one I can think of? Maybe Tropical Thunder?

250 The last Libertarian Prez candidate I paid attention to was a guy who said he wanted to chain prisoners to their beds so they wouldn't work out in the weight rooms and get more powerful than the guards.

Hard to take any of them seriously after that.

251 232 So we are back to the Republicans voting for big bloated spending bills to get tax cuts passed?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 01, 2025 04:10 PM (3QagQ)

Yes. This whole last few months really reminds me of the glory days of Bush Jr.

252 >> Actually he's great to have on your team, because he can do great things - but you gotta know you're gonna have to jettison him at some point. So get as much out of him while you can.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 01, 2025 04:01 PM (uWKK

Nah. I don’t want a guy on my team who is going to fail when he’s needed most, especially because he puts himself first. In fact I’ve been in enough bad situations in my life to know he’s exactly what I don’t want on my team.

253 The LP in Kentucky actually celebrated "delicious conservative tears" after helping Andy Beshear win.

254 They now get fewer votes in presidential elections percentage wise than they did in the 90s.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu at July 01, 2025 04:11 PM (GBKbO)

Was that wrong - should we not have had a naked dude parading around on stage high as a kite?

~ LP

255 A friendly reforming state like El Salvador gets walloped with a massive earthquake, or a volcanic disaster, we're not going to simply look on. And I doubt State is eliminating the mechanisms or $ to respond.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 01, 2025 04:09 PM (1m82a)

USAID is not involved in any of that sort of thing.

256 How is the temperature in Deutschland germane to the conversation?

257 "You could argue the music too.

The 80s were pretty bad culturally.

And I don't think it's gotten much better since.
Posted by: chavon"

I just kept listening to 70's music in the 80's and then moved on to the 90's. Which I did like.

258 Funny movie?
Maybe Hot Fuzz, but that was years ago…

259 255 A friendly reforming state like El Salvador gets walloped with a massive earthquake, or a volcanic disaster, we're not going to simply look on. And I doubt State is eliminating the mechanisms or $ to respond.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 01, 2025 04:09 PM (1m82a)

USAID is not involved in any of that sort of thing.
Posted by: Oldcat at July 01, 2025 04:14 PM (8avO+)

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They occasionally bought rice to send to people.

Otherwise, it was a slush fund for DC connected cronies who were always 2 years away from fixing starvation.

260 Running Man had to be the most 80's thing that ever 80'ed.
Posted by: eleven at July 01, 2025 04:06 PM (fV+MH)

I was gonna say that 'A Knight's Tale' was the most 90's thing of the 90's... but it came out in 2001.

261 178 I think it is important for victims and their families to feel like they are part of the process, even if, legally speaking, they are not. And for good reason! In a lot of tribal law systems in the ME, for example, the family decides on the punishment. That leads to rich criminals being able to bribe poor victims families to decide to not punish them or only minimally punish the. That's not exactly the system of justice we want to emulate.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

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Interesting info, thx. Def not advocating for victim family's to be the decision makers, just to be consulted. I just have this antiquated memory of the old (sorry) Law & Order episode with Bill Kunstler defending, and the murdered cop's widow in Michael Moriarty's face saying "I want you to think about this (photo of her deceased husband) before making any kinda DEAL!" Then Michael Moriarty saying to his assistant 'Yeah, let's go ahead with the trial; and make sure the jury sees her in the front row...'

262 170 Sun can't melt steel.

I don’t know: get me a few acres of reflecting mirror out in the Arizona desert, and let’s see how hot a focus we can get!

263 The 80s were pretty bad culturally.

And I don't think it's gotten much better since.

Posted by: chavon at July 01, 2025 04:10 PM


I spent the 80s outside of the country mostly. Caught the tail end of 1989 when I left the carrier and got sent to do a tour at RTC Great Lakes.

264 When he was replaced, even with the nation collapsing the supply situation was much improved in 1865
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Well, they fucked up sending food to Lee's Army as he was exiting Petersburg.

265 Cain on FoxNews is talking about the Bill.

I need to read up more on it. There's a ton of infrastructure, specifically the electrical grid, that could probably be updated.

It's insane that a country grinds to a halt, or whatever, without 4 or 5 trillion dollar injections. Meth addicts probably think that's messed up.

266 The Toronto Zoo did whaaaaaat?

267 Slow news day PLUS hot European weather?

https://tinyurl.com/mseswd39

Sounds like the perfect excuse for weathergirl Euroboobs!!

268 My favorite 80’s movie.. Sixteen Candles. funny, very funny.

269 "As of July 1st, USAID will officially cease to implement foreign assistance. Foreign assistance programs that align with administration policies—and which advance American interests—will be administered by the State Department, where they will be delivered with more accountability, strategy, and efficiency." - Sec. Rubio

As I assumed.

Interesting how the statement really focuses on post-Cold War period. I still expect the histrionic idiocy (transgender operas in Rio favelas, etc) started only in 2009.

Here's the whole thing: https://tinyurl.com/yuujvthk

270 1989 when I left the carrier and got sent to do a tour at RTC Great Lakes.
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That had to be a bit chilly. Did you guys still have Pea Coats then?

271 Some action Germany today. Apparently, they just arrested some guy in Iranian intelligence who was casing various Jewish locations, and checking locations for Jewish officials. They only ID him as Ali S. So, obviously, Irish.

272 Last one I can think of? Maybe Tropical Thunder?

Posted by: chavon at July 01, 2025 04:13 PM (r2ymA)

Yup. Tropic Thunder. Time for a rewatch.

273 USAID was first and foremost the connective tissue between the CIA and the State Dept. They were the organization that helped fuel regime changes, both foreign and domestic, as well were deeply involved in things like pandemic response. Often ones they helped create.

The infamous "soft power" all the DC chuds are going about.

274 "Ssssssss
Posted by: The Slow Newsday Gorn "


fkn lol.

I would counter with Slow News Day Sleestak but I can't remember what sound they made.

275 I was gonna say that 'A Knight's Tale' was the most 90's thing of the 90's... but it came out in 2001.
Posted by: Romeo13

Maybe The Matrix?

276 258 Funny movie? Maybe Hot Fuzz, but that was years ago… Posted by: Lizzy

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If you're talking about Edgar Wright, then Scott Pilgrim was good / funny. In general, feels like there are some examples, but Deadpool is the lowest common denominator of funny movie in the past 10 years...

277 The most extreme case of this was when Lee's Army, defending Richmond, was running short of shoes, blankets, and ammunition. Georgia had plenty of all 3 in warehouses that it controlled; but the Georgia Governor said he thought that his home guard forces needed them more, so he refused to send any of it. Confederate Government had no authority to override him, not even when their survival was on the line.
Posted by: Tom Servo at July 01, 2025 03:53 PM (uWKK

you realize the Home Guard at that time was fighting the Yanks under Sherman in North Georgia? What was Davis doing to not procure shoes and uniforms in Virginia? The person in charge of that was one of Davis' cronies.

278 267 Slow news day PLUS hot European weather?

https://tinyurl.com/mseswd39

Sounds like the perfect excuse for weathergirl Euroboobs!!
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Is that Emhoff's daughter?

279 We were gonna have good candidates, but then we got high
Posted by: The Libertarian Party at July 01, 2025 04:12 PM (8AONa)

Instead of mentioning how absolutely hilarious that particular joke is, now the what, fiftieth Odd time you told it ?(and really man, your joke makes my side ache with my laughter every time you tell it, let me say that some people would think you a repetitive bigot, but I understand true brilliance and memetic humor, I commend you)

The ex-chair of the LNC had made some comments about actual FBI agents trying to get state LP staff to be CIs and had made some comments about the interesting sorts that seem to always show up to clog the system up, almost as if they were snakebit.

I am waiting in mild interest to find out what Angela McArdle decides to produce as evidence.

280 One of you suggested a new movie from 2016 that was pretty good. Infinity Chamber. Thanks.

281 Running Man had to be the most 80's thing that ever 80'ed.

The trailer looks fun, dumb fun. That definitely is a valid remake

282 Hollywood moved away from comedies because they don't translate overseas as well.

So you have make another Transformers or Superhero movie and people in China can "enjoy" them as well as an American can, but a My Cousin Vinny is going to lose much of the humor in translation and because the people there won't get the stereotypes being made fun of....

283 I need to read up more on it. There's a ton of infrastructure, specifically the electrical grid, that could probably be updated.

It's insane that a country grinds to a halt, or whatever, without 4 or 5 trillion dollar injections. Meth addicts probably think that's messed up.
Posted by: Stateless BUT NOT HOMELESS! 77%- mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at July 01, 2025 04:17 PM (jvJvP)


Well, Obama spent a trillion dollars on infrastructure. Trump spend hundreds of billions. Then Biden spent another trillion or so on infrastructure.

And yet, as Trump said back in 2016, drive through much of the country and we have "failing third world infrastructure."

It is infuriating. I see bridges rusting through everywhere that could probably have had their lives extended by decades if they were just painted and maintained, but thats not how government operates. They need constant crises so they can get more money.

284 "USAID is not involved in any of that sort of thing."

WTF? Wrong. OFDA is the implementing agency, under USAID. I don't how the organization chart looks now, but I'd bet $9 OFDA or its equivalent remains (largely unchanged), under some State bureau.

USAID didn't just house OFDA, but its various bureaus coordinated with OFDA whenever it made sense (follow-on aid following major disasters, for example).

285 Yup. Tropic Thunder. Time for a rewatch.
Posted by: LMAO funny

This is why I love watching YouTube reaction channels so much. I get to rematch the movies I love AND see people's fresh reaction to them as well.

286 1989 when I left the carrier and got sent to do a tour at RTC Great Lakes.
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That had to be a bit chilly. Did you guys still have Pea Coats then?

Posted by: pudinhead at July 01, 2025 04:17 PM


Yes we did. I gave mine to the uniform thrift store when I made Chief Petty Officer.

287 New last line to the Faygo song?

Pony rides and Sunday nights
Roller skates and yo-yo's
Fairy tales and snowball fights
Getting sniped through the window

https://tinyurl.com/ycyjdzkt

288 "Does anyone else now have aversions to drinks or food they used to like when younger?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke"

Unless you're talking REALLY young, no. I have a dislike of all sugary candy, which I'm sure I loved, but mostly I have more things I like now than I ever did.

I have developed a distaste for soda, as well. I can drink it, but I don't enjoy it. (Mostly.)

289 54 https://shorturl.at/8P5OR

By the way, interesting article here comparing Elon's political ineptitude to the Whites in Russia's Civil War (the comparison makes sense, actually).
Posted by: the lower depths at July 01, 2025 03:42 PM (+b4rY)

That is an extremely perceptive article - I think he has Elon pegged just right.

290 Some action Germany today. Apparently, they just arrested some guy in Iranian intelligence who was casing various Jewish locations, and checking locations for Jewish officials. They only ID him as Ali S. So, obviously, Irish.
Posted by: Orson at July 01, 2025 04:17 PM (dIske)

This shows why EU cowardice doesn't pay. The terrorists will blow stuff up in Europe anyway.

291 282 Hollywood moved away from comedies because they don't translate overseas as well.

So you have make another Transformers or Superhero movie and people in China can "enjoy" them as well as an American can, but a My Cousin Vinny is going to lose much of the humor in translation and because the people there won't get the stereotypes being made fun of..

They don't have youts in china?

292 If you think Law and Order, in any of its many permutations has anything pertinent to say about real law and order, you are vastly mistaken! I refused to watch it because, from the very first episode, the prosecution, that is to say, the State, gets to go last! That’s totally against our system of laws! And no one even comments on it!

293 I was gonna say that 'A Knight's Tale' was the most 90's thing of the 90's... but it came out in 2001.

A Knight's Tale sucked so bad, I wanted to find everyone responsible and beat them with a flanged mace. It turned me against Heath Leger for life until I saw him as Joker.

294 And if anyone's thirsty for a 'new' movie that's funny... I'd vote for 'Saturday Night'. Surprisingly really enjoyed it

295 I think the last funny movie I saw was Max Steel, which wasn't even supposed to be funny.

Mad respect for making a movie so bad it was hilarious.

296 If Trump signs this Evil Tax Break Big Bill, then children color in African Communist Shit-Hole Countries will starve !!

Do you want this on your Conscience ??????

297
Also, didn't Joe Biden's uncle get eaten by a cannibal or something? I can see why Uncle Joe wanted this kind of diversity here.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 01, 2025 04:11 PM (uCjyK)



Michael Rockefeller, Nelson's kid.

And of course, Nelson died of a heart attack while shtupping his mid-20s mistress about 20 years later.

298 Disney/Pixar already got two flop cartoons featuring ghey characters, so they de-ghey the title character of Elio and . . . wind up with their biggest flop cartoon ever?

Something something heart of stone something laugh.

John Lasseter should never have been ousted.

299
They don't have youts in china?

NO.

300 Hmmm, Game Night with Jason Bateman was funny.

301 150 149 Guy Ritchie did a good job with Fountain of Youth. Interesting angles, etc. The opening sequence was very fun.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at July 01, 2025 03:57 PM (ky8PV)

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His King Arthur is underappreciated.

Lovecraftian.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,
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Boorman captures the Arthurian mythos better. Whole movie seems like a dream. Plus nudity, gore, and a wisecracking Nicol Williamson.

302 Going to the movies was always a big thing for us. I'm in a small farming community.

I have seen so few movies.

Yet, in the theatres, I still saw "Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot!"

303 They only ID him as Ali S. So, obviously, Irish.
Posted by: Orson

I was going to guess UK citizenship, but he'd probably just be named Mohammed at that point.

304 > Can’t remember when the last funny movie was made… humor is a casualty of Wokeism..

I liked Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves.

305 301 Boorman captures the Arthurian mythos better. Whole movie seems like a dream. Plus nudity, gore, and a wisecracking Nicol Williamson.
Posted by: whig at July 01, 2025 04:22 PM (ctrM5)

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I do like Boorman's take more, as insane as Boorman is (dude's still alive, surprisingly).

But Ritchie's take is fun, and I'm a sucker for Lovecraftian horror, even in small doses.

306 "Does anyone else now have aversions to drinks or food they used to like when younger?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke"

As a kid I was so disgusted by coagulated egg white that I only could eat softboiled so soft that my mom was repulsed. I got over it.

Somewhere in my late 30s my favorite meal of enchiladas with beef started making me ill as in throwing up driving home. beef and melted cheese.
switching to chicken was OK.

307 Humor in China is when you lose the beads off your abacus.

308 Hollywood moved away from comedies because they don't translate overseas as well.

They can, but they have to be something that broadly translates well like silent comedy, or connects with something generally understood, like Blazing Saddles. Any comedy that relies heavily on language or specific cultural beats is not going to work well in other nations and cultures or especially languages.

Harold Lloyd is funny in China and Africa and Canada and Chile. Air plane requires too much understanding of disaster movies, American culture, and puns.

309 My conscience can handle it. Sally Struthers ftw.

310 WTF? Wrong. OFDA is the implementing agency, under USAID. I don't how the organization chart looks now, but I'd bet $9 OFDA or its equivalent remains (largely unchanged), under some State bureau.

USAID didn't just house OFDA, but its various bureaus coordinated with OFDA whenever it made sense (follow-on aid following major disasters, for example).
Posted by: rhomboid at July 01, 2025 04:20 PM (1m82a)

USAID was, and has been from its inception, a slush fund used by the CIA and State Department to throw money around overseas as part of projecting "soft power" after Kennedy lost his shit on the CIA for their bumbling projections of, er, "hard power" like the Bay of Pigs fiasco.

Did some of that money ever go to a "good cause"? Yeah, probably. Do we know that for sure? No, because they didn't / don't keep accurate records of anything, like most of the federal government.

Do we want our intel agencies running a shadow government / shadow foreign policy operations around the world with no oversight? I would say no, but apparently I'm in the minority on this site with that view.

Is USAID the only such area of the budget where these slush funds exist? Absolutely not.

311 Basically there hasn't been a really funny film in over 15 years.

The closest you could probably come up with is Bridesmaids.

As with much of the rest of the culture, everything went to shit around the time Obama was elected.

312 304 > Can’t remember when the last funny movie was made… humor is a casualty of Wokeism..

I liked Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves.

Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2025 04:22 PM (lIio7)

That was funny...especially if you play.

313 just kept listening to 70's music in the 80's and then moved on to the 90's. Which I did like.
Posted by: eleven at July 01, 2025 04:14 PM (fV+MH)

The 90's had some really good stuff.

Since 00s it's been really slim pickinings.

Maybe one good song a year at best.

Mostly one-offs with no sustained excellence.

314 I liked Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves.

I liked it, although they got Displacer Beasts all wrong (that is NOT how they work) and it was a bit too long.

315 turned me against Heath Leger for life until I saw him as Joker.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

So...for the rest of HIS life, at least.

316 This is why I love watching YouTube reaction channels so much. I get to rematch the movies I love AND see people's fresh reaction to them as well.

Posted by: Movie Moron at July 01, 2025 04:20 PM (JCZqz)

I probably would enjoy that. What is it actually?

317 305 301 Boorman captures the Arthurian mythos better. Whole movie seems like a dream. Plus nudity, gore, and a wisecracking Nicol Williamson.
Posted by: whig at July 01, 2025 04:22 PM (ctrM5)

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I do like Boorman's take more, as insane as Boorman is (dude's still alive, surprisingly). But Ritchie's take is fun, and I'm a sucker for Lovecraftian horror, even in small doses. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, reflecting on change and permanence with Ozu

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Guy Ritchie 'King Arthur' or Antoine Fuqua 'King Arthur' (the Clive Owen one)? Haven't seen the former. Guilty pleasure liking the latter. Awesome cast...

318 Michael Rockefeller, Nelson's kid.

And of course, Nelson died of a heart attack while shtupping his mid-20s mistress about 20 years later.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at July 01, 2025 04:21 PM (y9nCu)

Yes, I know that story. I was making fun of Joe Biden's hilarious lie about his uncle who got shot down in WWII.

319 That was funny...especially if you play.
Posted by: Nova Local at July 01, 2025 04:25 PM (tOcjL)

Why only 3 questions? Why not 5?

320 They only ID him as Ali S.

That can't be his real name.

321 296 If Trump signs this Evil Tax Break Big Bill, then children color in African Communist Shit-Hole Countries will starve !!

Do you want this on your Conscience ??????
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Hardly a bother. Black Fatigue is a real thing these days. I channel surf for films to watch. If the film features blacks I just move on.

322 Massie needs to be recycled as Secretary of Agriculture. He'd do much better than whatever woman is in charge of that.

And Trump needs to do something for the Amish who turned out in droves to win Pennsylvania. Ask Scott Presler and Robert Barnes. They're being harassed by PA. We need food freedom in America.

323 I liked Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves.

Hugh Grant was really good. Though while I haven't played D&D in forever aren't tieflings supposed to be kind of evil?

324 The ex-chair of the LNC had made some comments about actual FBI agents trying to get state LP staff to be CIs and had made some comments about the interesting sorts that seem to always show up to clog the system up, almost as if they were snakebit.

I am waiting in mild interest to find out what Angela McArdle decides to produce as evidence.
Posted by: Kindltot - remember, profit is violence and choice is a tool of the oppressor at July 01, 2025 04:19 PM (D7oie)

Yeah, I'm pretty much convinced that Perot and the Reform Party was the first major casualty of the Elder Bush's Deep State.

Look at the story... suddenly a guy gets INSIDE information from Government sources, that his family is in danger... but then the government sources call him nuts? and run a Big Gov Leak campaign through the media, which destroys his credibility.

Gee, where else have we seen Government insiders tell Lies about a Political Opponent... which then get taken as credible by the Press... and is the top story for weeks...

Can you say 'Russian Collusion'? I knew you could...

325 > Hmmm, Game Night with Jason Bateman was funny.

I liked that one too.

326 The Guard, about a small town Irish Guardia police gets mixed up into a drug war and a FBI agent investigating mix it up
Really funny

327 317 Guy Ritchie 'King Arthur' or Antoine Fuqua 'King Arthur' (the Clive Owen one)? Haven't seen the former. Guilty pleasure liking the latter. Awesome cast...
Posted by: bearski at July 01, 2025 04:26 PM (Bhsk7)

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I probably like Ritchie's a little better. Fuqua's is weird, but the battles are fun and Stellan Skarsgaard's bored performance as the main baddie is actually kind of really fun.

328 Oh and the best Easter egg in the D&D movie was having a party that looked like the cast of the old D&D cartoon.

329 As with much of the rest of the culture, everything went to shit around the time Obama was elected.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 01, 2025 04:24 PM (XV/Pl)

Barky is of islam. There's no laughter in islam.

330 323 I liked Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves.

Hugh Grant was really good. Though while I haven't played D&D in forever aren't tieflings supposed to be kind of evil?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2025 04:27 PM (t0Rmr)

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Apparently, Grant writes most of his dialogue in all of his movies.

331 The one movie where I thought Mollie Ringwald was hot, she played a psycho.

Not really sure what that says about me.

332 I think Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was funny...

333 Movies today:
Not funny ha ha, funny queer

334 Just saw another film besides Caught Stealing to peak my interest, apparently PTA is directing a dramedy starring DiCaprio, that looks really good.

I've had this idea for a movie that takes place during the COVID era, it's kind of a mashup of It's A Mad Mad Mad World meets convoy meets Smokey and The Bandit, whereby all of these truckers have to race to California to pick up a MacGuffen and get it back to the east coast.

Daniel Day Lewis is in it in a comedic role, his driving partner is a midget, and there's a scene where they get drunk and he has to toss his partner into the truck.

I just want to see DDL tossing a midget.

This is definately a film PTA would direct.

335 Reading Rubio's statement is interesting, having been very directly involved in some of this in the (now distant?) past. Some of it echoes things from the early 90s, when it was actually shocking how non-stupid much of the activity was (for those expecting it to be thoroughly Peace Corps/NPR/do-gooder crap). Reinforcing my presumption that - along with so much else - the Obama years disfigured and weaponized foreign aid.

336 This is why I love watching YouTube reaction channels so much. I get to rematch the movies I love AND see people's fresh reaction to them as well.

Posted by: Movie Moron at July 01, 2025 04:20 PM (JCZqz)

I probably would enjoy that. What is it actually?
Posted by: LMAO funny at July 01, 2025 04:26 PM (R2M/s)

People watching the movie and you see cut down clips of them on top of the movie. There's a group of three Vietnamese girls that are funny - in Tropic Thunder they were cheering on the NVA and critiquing the view of their country. Sometimes they have issues understanding American stuff, which is also interesting.

They really were weepy during Its a Wonderful Life.

337 It’s been for years now that comedies have to also be either cringe/crude (There’s Something About Mary) or violent (Mel Gibson’s Fat Man). Not much G Comedy anymore.

338 288 "Does anyone else now have aversions to drinks or food they used to like when younger?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke"
____________________________

When very young, I loved fish, and various seafood. Now, I can't stand it. Not sure why...

On a side note. This got me kicked out of a restaurant about 4 years ago. I needed to make a quick trip outside to take care of parking due to a fire across the street. The person I was with asked me what I wanted to order because the waitress was just arriving. I said, "Not Seafood." This implied anything else was fine.

All the Jewish waitress heard was "Nazi Food." When I returned from the car my dinner companion was standing at the front door ready to leave. She had been asked to vacate.

339 There was a recent analysis of "regime change" actions that pointed out that the regime change only lasted as long as the new regime was subsidized by USAID.

Which is sort of depressing. All that money and violence has to be subsidized.

340 Guy Ritchie 'King Arthur' or Antoine Fuqua 'King Arthur' (the Clive Owen one)? Haven't seen the former. Guilty pleasure liking the latter. Awesome cast...

I didn't care for the latter, but the score for it is magnificent

341 Yeah, I'm pretty much convinced that Perot and the Reform Party was the first major casualty of the Elder Bush's Deep State.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 01, 2025 04:27 PM (mP0Kj)

The Bush family is probably the most deep state family this side of the Rockefellers, so I have no doubt they were / are capable of that. But I have not looked in to it at all.

342 It is infuriating. I see bridges rusting through everywhere that could probably have had their lives extended by decades if they were just painted and maintained, but thats not how government operates. They need constant crises so they can get more money.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 01, 2025 04:19 PM (uCjyK

Hell, I'm in Canada but I'm worried about your electricty grid. I've read a few articles before.

I'd love to think this bill miraculously fixes things. But you're right. Things have to collapse to be addresed.

Hey, I'm starting today's Dominion Day 12 pack! I'm taking a month off aside from the animals. And I'll thoroughly go through the house since it's now mine.

343 We need food freedom in America.
Posted by: Miley, okravangelist at July 01, 2025 04:27 PM (w6EFb)

We need a famine so we can stop coming up with nonsensical phrases like this. Or “ultra processed food”, etc etc etc.

344 340 Guy Ritchie 'King Arthur' or Antoine Fuqua 'King Arthur' (the Clive Owen one)? Haven't seen the former. Guilty pleasure liking the latter. Awesome cast...

I didn't care for the latter, but the score for it is magnificent
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 01, 2025 04:30 PM (dfIr7)

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Fuqua's is weirdly preachy. About a heresy that's been dead for more than 1500 years.

So weird.

345 Massie is a piece of shit that voted for the Biden Boondoggle that literally REMOVED the debt ceiling for the duration and let them pile up more debt than at any point in history.

But yeah, now that Trump's in office his precious 'principles' are TOTALLY about cutting spending.

It just shocks me that anybody lends any credence to this fraud.
Posted by: DudeAbiding at July 01, 2025 03:44 PM (setIA)

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Sure enough: https://tinyurl.com/3jfmkyvp
He was the lone Republican on the House Rules Committee -- appointed by Kevin McCarthy, no less -- to advance the debt limit increase in 2023. His "principles" aren't worth the paper they're written on.

346 332 I think Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was funny...
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Who doesn't have a flame thrower in their shed?

347 342 It is infuriating. I see bridges rusting through everywhere that could probably have had their lives extended by decades if they were just painted and maintained, but thats not how government operates. They need constant crises so they can get more money.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 01, 2025 04:19 PM (uCjyK

It helps to hold government to account, but people are uninterested in doing that.

348 Government employees are pretty open about why maintenance doesn't happen and work takes forever.

Don't
Kill
The
Job

Why fix that road in a week when you can do it in four? Why paint that bridge when you can hire your brother in law's company to replace it when it collapses?

349 Hell, I'm in Canada but I'm worried about your electricty grid. I've read a few articles before.

I'd love to think this bill miraculously fixes things. But you're right. Things have to collapse to be addresed.

Hey, I'm starting today's Dominion Day 12 pack! I'm taking a month off aside from the animals. And I'll thoroughly go through the house since it's now mine.
Posted by: Stateless BUT NOT HOMELESS! 77%- mental state clawing up from 10%, shit happened, clawing back now at July 01, 2025 04:30 PM (jvJvP)

Our grid works fine in the parts of the country that haven't had a massive increase in population.

But yes, it should have been upgraded over the years as part of routine maintenance, but hasn't been and won't until the next catastrophe when we need TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS RIGHT NOW OR WE ALL DIE.

350 Gee, where else have we seen Government insiders tell Lies about a Political Opponent... which then get taken as credible by the Press... and is the top story for weeks...

Can you say 'Russian Collusion'? I knew you could...
Posted by: Romeo13 at July 01, 2025 04:27 PM (mP0Kj)

George it would have been simpler to keep your word and not raise taxes.

351 Seems like many a fine lawn amoung the commenters.

352
Yes, I know that story. I was making fun of Joe Biden's hilarious lie about his uncle who got shot down in WWII.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at July 01, 2025 04:26 PM (uCjyK)


Oh yeah. I'd forgotten about that.

353 This is why I love watching YouTube reaction channels so much. I get to rematch the movies I love AND see people's fresh reaction to them as well.

Posted by: Movie Moron at July 01, 2025 04:20 PM (JCZqz)

I get the same thing from watching them with my children.

We watched "Taken" with out teenagers last night (both as a good movie, but also as a "beware of what can happen" warning.)

My son was shouting out advice to Liam Neeson, and unlike most movies, he did exactly what my son recommended. It was hilarious. My son loved it.

354 I liked Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves.
Posted by: bonhomme at July 01, 2025 04:22 PM (lIio7)

I was really surprised by this movie, and I liked it as well.

355 323 I liked Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves.

Hugh Grant was really good. Though while I haven't played D&D in forever aren't tieflings supposed to be kind of evil?

Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2025 04:27 PM (t0Rmr)

Anything can be reskinned...I play Duffy the Bear as a College of Lore Bard who can call all his magical stuffy and movie friends as "help"...the number of spells I have renamed to be "more G rated" amuses my GM...

356 The one movie where I thought Mollie Ringwald was hot, she played a psycho.

That was the only one she took her top off in, and showed that she has really big ones. Apparently she always had, they just put her into loose clothes and strapped them down pretty well to make her look younger.

I have heard mixed things about her personally, apparently absolutely no one who worked with her likes her.

357 304 I liked Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves.
Posted by: bonhomme

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I love the Money Pit. That is my answer to that statement.

358 Why fix that road in a week when you can do it in four? Why paint that bridge when you can hire your brother in law's company to replace it when it collapses?
Posted by: 18-1 at July 01, 2025 04:31 PM (t0Rmr)

Sure, that's part of it.

But the bigger part is the politicians want a crisis around every corner. Scared people vote to give politicians more money.

It's why they always threatened to fire "cops and teachers" at the local level if you don't agree to pay more in property taxes. Or why they allow the roads to go to shit. You say "seriously, there is nothing else to cut in the budget other than cops and teachers?" and they will tell you with a straight face that it's either that, or they get rid of road maintenance or plowing. Or, you know, give them more money and nothing will get fixed but at least you'll still have cops, teachers, and road plowing in the winter!

359 I probably would enjoy that. What is it actually?
Posted by: LMAO

Here's a favorite of mine, Popcorn in Bed. A sweet young woman who grew up very sheltered, exploring movies and being terrified of many of them. Here she is watching The Thing lol
https://tinyurl.com/3md5assk

Coincidentally, she and her sister are in their latest video watching The Dungeons and Dragons movie being discussed!

360 Pretty sure that Obama’s TARP infrastructure bill spent the most money on …. Public schools. Not bridges and roads, not the electricity grid, etc.

Gotta reward the teachers unions for reliably being the biggest donors to Democrat candidates.

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Jaguar's Sales Drop by 97.5% After Bizarre Gender-Blender Rebranding Campaign

Congratulations, Jaguar. You took your brand, which had been associated with prestige, achievement, and masculinity, and turned it into the Drag Queen Story Hour of automobiles.

Here was there disastrous ad, if you've banished it from your memory:

Do you sell cars?

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) November 19, 2024

No, they sell what all corporations are selling these days: Marxism and child-grooming.

The Daily Caller reports that desire for the once-desirable brand has collapsed.

Jaguar's sales in Europe have plunged dramatically, with only 49 vehicles registered in April 2025, a 97.5% drop from the 1,961 units sold in the same month the previous year.

Jaguar's European sales plummeted by 97.5% and year-to-date figures show a 75.1% decline in sales, with just 2,665 units sold from January to April 2025. Globally, Jaguar's performance dropped sharply from 180,833 units in 2018 to 26,862 units in FY24/25, holding a market share of just 0.1% in both Australia and the U.K.

These sales figures follow Jaguar's bold rebrand in November 2024, which departs from its traditional identity. The luxury automaker unveiled a new logo and advertising campaign that notably excluded depictions of cars, instead featuring androgynous models in vibrant attire, with slogans like "Copy Nothing" and "Live Vivid," positioning Jaguar as a modern, inclusive brand.

Critics slammed Jaguar's rebrand for straying too far from the brand's performance-focused roots, accusing it of pandering to a "woke" agenda.

So another woke corporation chases off its old "pale and male" customer base to replace them with... nobody.

Or maybe with this guy:

Few on the woke far-left have the money for bus fare never mind a Jaguar. And they wouldn't want to buy something so associated with yucchy male-centered traditional notions of achievement and excellence even if they did.

So you wiped out billions in corporate value for a virtue signal.

Was it worth it?

Today ist the day on Sprockets when ve set fire to all of our shareholder value.