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At Least 42 People Presumed Dead in Lee County as Media Rushes to "Katrina" Ron DeSantis
Forty-two people dead, sadly, in just Lee County. And there will probably be more.
The media now unleashes the New DeathSantis Narrative it started working on a week ago.At least 42 people are dead in Lee County, one of the areas hardest-hit by Hurricane Ian where rescue and recovery efforts are still ongoing. Local officials are now facing questions about why they didn't urge people in the path of the destructive Category 4 hurricane to evacuate sooner. Last Sunday -- three days before the storm landed on the peninsula -- the National Hurricane Center predicted that Ian could bring a storm surge of 4 to 7 feet from Englewood to Bonita Beach, which includes all of coastal Lee County.A 4 to 7 foot surge isn't a major surge. It was the 10 to 15 foot (or more) surges that were deadly. Lee County was not in the storm's path according to the storm track 72 hours before landfall, as DeSantis explains to this dolt of a CNN reporter. Even at 48 hours, it was only on the periphery. In other words, the storm changed its path and moved towards Lee County in the last 24 hours before landfall. And DeSantis did order an evacuation. Actually, this isn't directly about DeSantis; it's about the local officials, who did order an evacuation. But the media is attempting to blame DeSantis for the local officials' "deadly delay." The woman Trump absolutely will not stop leaking to:
DeSantis just wrecked a CNN "reporter" pic.twitter.com/t7Hm8xitsV
— Kevin Tober (@KevinTober94) October 3, 2022
Rich Baris "The People's Pundit"And DeSantis did stress that people outside the evacuation zones also had to prepare:
@Peoples_Pundit Here is what @davereaboi and I were predicting last week, right here. Media love when they have dead bodies to use as political weapons. These are disgusting people. Was @CNN warning Lee County to evacuate before the evacuation order? Of course not, because of forecast track.
Clips from 7 press conferences prior to #HurricaneIan landfall from 9/25 to 9/27, when Governor DeSantis warned Floridians to heed local evacuation orders.
— DeSantis War Room 🐊 #FloridaStrong (@DeSantisWarRoom) October 3, 2022
Though the storm was projected to hit Tampa & later Sarasota, he emphasized the entire Gulf Coast should be prepared. pic.twitter.com/pcF0vSPBRL
It's an obvious lie that they're more frequent; that's why the media keeps pushing the lie that they're vaguely "more intense." But lately the media has just started asserting they're also more frequent, which is completely contradicted by actual records. And it's also false that they're becoming "more intense:"
Michael Shellenberger
@ShellenbergerMD Over the last week, the mainstream news media claimed that hurricanes are becoming more frequent & intense, but they're not, as the data clearly show. What's more, it's clear that the media are engaging in *deliberate* misinformation. These aren't innocent mistakes.
The quiet, firm competence of Governor Ron DeSantis in the face of Hurricane Ian is proving a real problem for Democrats, Never Trumpers, and other garbage people. He's good at what he does, unlike them, and people see how he differs from the Establishment despite the blizzard of lies and silly charges designed to tear down the best governor in America. Why DeSantis is a monster who hates gay people because he banned grooming and he caused global warming by not making you turn in your Tahoe for a Schwinn and he dragged innocent illegal aliens from their idyllic sidewalk shantytowns in El Paso to the nightmarish hellscape of Martha's Vineyard. It's enough to cause literal shaking! Sure, Donald Trump was Hitler, but DeSantis is both disciplined and (unlike Trump) sees that institutions like the regime media are worthless and must be destroyed, so he is Super Hitler on Steroids times a zillion. Certainly, the comparison with the half-wits in the White House in the wake of the Cat 4 storm has been less than flattering to the Establishment windbags. President Cornholio has contributed nothing to the relief efforts besides more video of him wandering away, but in his defense, he's been distracted running his fool mouth and risking nuclear war. And Kamala has been at it as well. The Florida administration had to correct the Veep's insistence that hurricane relief would be targeted at people of color and presumably non-binary two-spirit otherkin. Diversity may be our strength, goes the cliché, but there's no diversity in the Biden Administration -- they are all idiots. What they cannot tolerate is how DeSantis shames them for actually doing his job well. Oh, how they were praying for him to fail. The more destruction the better, and the suffering of Florida's people be damned if the left can try to score points off of Heavy D based on Ian's wrath. But DeSantis refuses to play the George Bush role of gentleman simpleton and to be a punching bag for people without the upper-body strength to toss a haymaker. DeSantis is out there constantly, answering questions, issuing guidance, and giving info. DeSantis oversaw the planning and execution of the response to the hurricane with clarity and efficiency shocking in this world of posers and ruling class charlatans who have never accomplished anything other than taking on ever-higher positions from which they can achieve even greater failures.Read the whole thing. It's a real doozer. And, indeed, DeSantis did warn looters that Florida is proud to be a state in which the Second Amendment flourishes:
... So brace yourself for stories about how people have had to wait several hours for rescues, or how the wreckage is still not cleaned up three days later. We'll see the regime media full of reports about DeSantis's willful failure to wave his magic wand and undo the damage that Ian caused in the blink of an eye. This is getting tiresome.... Now they are even trying to hit him for being an anti-looter. He pointed out -- correctly -- that if you loot in Florida you might just get shot. Normal people think "Good." The blue check mafia wet itself because scumbags, criminals, and thugs -- favored Democrat constituencies -- might find it harder to abuse law-abiding people when they can shoot back.
DESANTIS: “Don’t even think about looting, don’t event think of taking advantage of people in this vulnerable situation… I would not want to chance that if I were you given that we’re a second amendment state.”
— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) October 1, 2022
pic.twitter.com/JFtHDPn05G
InteractivePollsLanguage warning but it's worth the watch if you can put up with some f***s and a couple of m*****f*****s.
@IAPolls2022 FLORIDA POLL By Siena College GOVERNOR
(R) Ron DeSantis 49% (+
(D) Charlie Crist 41% SENATE
(R) Marco Rubio 48% (+7)
(D) Val Demings 41% 669 LV | 09/18-25 | R35/D34/I31
🚨Lol. The bullshit media is going to lose their marbles over this video 👇🏻 pic.twitter.com/4e2Ryqosrp
— Dan Bongino (@dbongino) October 3, 2022
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Skip's phone at October 03, 2022 12:13 PM (7vi6m)
Posted by: Tonypete at October 03, 2022 12:14 PM (LsEU/)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 03, 2022 12:15 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Skip's phone at October 03, 2022 12:15 PM (7vi6m)
@ShellenbergerMD
Over the last week, the mainstream news media claimed that hurricanes are becoming more frequent & intense, but they�re not, as the data clearly show. What's more, it's clear that the media are engaging in *deliberate* misinformation. These aren't innocent mistakes.
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Now, let's talk about Reagan's responsibility for the crack epidemic...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 03, 2022 12:15 PM (LvTSG)
Over the last week, the mainstream news media claimed that hurricanes are becoming more frequent & intense, but they're not, as the data clearly show. What's more, it's clear that the media are engaging in *deliberate* misinformation. These aren't innocent mistakes.
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There's a single word for "deliberate misinformation," and that that word is "disinformation."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 03, 2022 12:16 PM (t0OGg)
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Let's be honest here: DeSantis likes Nickelback.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 03, 2022 12:16 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2022 12:16 PM (krQz2)
I object; you're letting him off for his culpability for the AIDS epidemic.
Posted by: ace at October 03, 2022 12:17 PM (B3oWe)
(R) Ron DeSantis 49% (+
(D) Charlie Crist 41%
SENATE
(R) Marco Rubio 48% (+7)
(D) Val Demings 41%
669 LV | 09/18-25 | R35/D34/I31
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I believe everyone's been saying that Rubio is a tossup for months. Turns out the polls were wrong for months.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 03, 2022 12:17 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 03, 2022 12:17 PM (Zz0t1)
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"Intense" is good because it's vague. What does "intense" mean? Well, you might think it means that they're more powerful with higher winds and deeper water and whatnot, but that's only the most obvious answer. It could also mean "causes more damage" or "more people die" or "the dollar cost of recovery is greater."
Those alternate meanings of "intense" might be - and probably are, at least for some definitions - true because there's more stuff being built there, everything is more expensive, more people live there, etc.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 03, 2022 12:17 PM (t0OGg)
I object; you're letting him off for his culpability for the AIDS epidemic.
Posted by: ace at October 03, 2022 12:17 PM (B3oWe)
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But first, Putin rigging election machines in MI in 2016...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 03, 2022 12:18 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 03, 2022 12:18 PM (yikp0)
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 03, 2022 12:18 PM (trdmm)
Posted by: no 6 at October 03, 2022 12:18 PM (PXvVL)
The Democrat Propaganda machine never criticized Nagin for getting people killed in the Superdome... it was all Bush's fault.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 03, 2022 12:18 PM (bUcxF)
If only he were governor of a state I'd want to move to. Or if only we had more like him in more states.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 03, 2022 12:18 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 03, 2022 12:18 PM (iFTx/)
We've had records of hurricanes hitting the continental United States since the 1850's. There is been no change in the frequency or severity of hurricanes during that time.
What has changed is the amount of coastal development, so a hurricane that would have hit a mangrove swamp a hundred years ago now causes hundreds of millions of dollars in damage.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 03, 2022 12:18 PM (I2/tG)
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Florida, population 22,000,000
COVID math strikes again, though.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 03, 2022 12:18 PM (0fs9V)
Saw this ine on Schlichter thismorning and thought of you.
he’s going to beat Charlie Crist like a dominatrix does a Dispatch writer, though with less whimpering.”
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 03, 2022 12:18 PM (Y+l9t)
I'm sure if you look around at DU, you might find some.
Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2022 12:19 PM (krQz2)
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And to think that if not for one truckload of fraudulent ballots that didn't arrive on time, the creepy pervert Gillum would have been governor of Florida during COVID and this, and the brightest star on the right would be virtually unknown.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 03, 2022 12:19 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 03, 2022 12:19 PM (iFTx/)
Theoretically, DeSantis could have ordered the evacuation of the entire state of Florida.
That would have been Benny Hillesque.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 03, 2022 12:19 PM (up/3i)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 03, 2022 12:17 PM (Zz0t1)
Threadwinner.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 03, 2022 12:19 PM (yHsuS)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 03, 2022 12:20 PM (Zz0t1)
Free will. It doesn't always work out for the best; however, I'd rather have that than anything else.
Posted by: Archer at October 03, 2022 12:20 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 03, 2022 12:20 PM (bUcxF)
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I might be a jerk for saying this, but it's "lie." And by not calling a lie a lie, we're at this crappy point in our history where we're watching little kids get kidnapped and trafficked to California for the sex trade. And that's what the surgeries are, same as if they were being sold into prostitution.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 03, 2022 12:20 PM (0fs9V)
If you feel motivated, try ordering a triple hamburger at your BK and lemme know what they charge you. There SHOULD be a special button for it on most registers but the local help may or may not know how to find it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
Triple meat Whataburger - $7.49
Every day menu item.
Posted by: rickb223 Cruel ace is the best ace at October 03, 2022 12:20 PM (UEL2X)
I am in awe......
Posted by: Rudyard Kipling at October 03, 2022 12:20 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: BignJames at October 03, 2022 12:20 PM (AwYPR)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 03, 2022 12:20 PM (0fs9V)
Posted by: 29Victor at October 03, 2022 12:21 PM (BJKQV)
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"The Ministry of Truth OWNS THE SCIENCE, even when it's not Dr. Faucistein! Kneel before your new false god, h8r ... the future is known, it's the past that keeps changing."
Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 03, 2022 12:21 PM (zygej)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 03, 2022 12:21 PM (ayzS/)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 03, 2022 12:21 PM (dt+Wi)
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 03, 2022 12:21 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 03, 2022 12:21 PM (yikp0)
Signs on 4x8 sheets of plywood in Houston neighborhoods: "You loot, we shoot"
Posted by: rickb223 Cruel ace is the best ace at October 03, 2022 12:22 PM (UEL2X)
Every day menu item.
Posted by: rickb223 Cruel ace is the best ace at October 03, 2022 12:20 PM (UEL2X)
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I would never want one. To me the patty is often the least tasty thing besides the bun. You're just chewing through mouthfuls of dry, chalky burger, unless you have enough of the vinegar-base condiments on there--and onion.
Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2022 12:22 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 12:22 PM (OuH7W)
Cruel Reading - 8/10
Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at October 03, 2022 12:22 PM (53oGX)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 03, 2022 12:20 PM (0fs9V)
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It is also a lie, but "lie" is the general term. Disinformation is more specific. Anything untrue on purpose is a lie, and the press are liars. The press tell lies to impart information that is not true and thus distort perception.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 03, 2022 12:22 PM (t0OGg)
I do not wonder why the difference between these two events.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at October 03, 2022 12:23 PM (u4CEu)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 12:23 PM (OuH7W)
- Kevin Tober (@KevinTober94) October 3, 2022
And she just kept on effing that chicken.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 03, 2022 12:23 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 03, 2022
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Yes. Miss. got hit quite a bit harder than did N'Awlins, but The Congo River Basin got all the attention because of the black population waiting around for government help. Miss. people got to work right away and cleaned things up and rebuilt. Da Swamp still had people living in FEMA trailers a year later.
Also in contrast: In 1965 Hurricane Betsy scored a direct hit on the city. Within 3 weeks schools were open again (I know, I was there). Katrina? They took 3 months or longer.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 03, 2022 12:23 PM (J2vNu)
Every day menu item.
Posted by: rickb223 Cruel ace is the best ace at October 03, 2022 12:20 PM (UEL2X)
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I would never want one. To me the patty is often the least tasty thing besides the bun. You're just chewing through mouthfuls of dry, chalky burger, unless you have enough of the vinegar-base condiments on there--and onion.
Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2022 12:22 PM (krQz2)
Yeah can't say I was impressed the one time I tried their burger.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at October 03, 2022 12:23 PM (eYoxG)
*cough*
Posted by: Bulls*** at October 03, 2022 12:24 PM (ayzS/)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 03, 2022 12:24 PM (SIZS3)
My neighborhood was saved by those who stayed behind and spotted and fought a spot fire that could have taken the neighborhood out. Never again will I evacuate.
Now for some comedy relief: Frank Luntz (climate change, gun control, & WWIII activist) self owns himself in a tweet as he attempts to bring down the UK Tory government at their conference this weekend...
twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1576695377427734529
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at October 03, 2022 12:24 PM (MFZ8i)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 03, 2022 12:24 PM (SIZS3)
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Too busy cooking meat pies.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 03, 2022 12:24 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 03, 2022 12:25 PM (V6f9+)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 03, 2022 12:25 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 03, 2022 12:25 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 03, 2022 12:25 PM (Pdsey)
Dancing on the graves of dead Floridians is not going to play well here.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 03, 2022 12:25 PM (7pwgp)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
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FWIW I wasn't really trying to counter anything you'd written, just something that I have begun to realize the older I get. There are very few gray areas. Pretty much everything is black and white, right or wrong. It's why our conscious works like it does.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 03, 2022 12:26 PM (0fs9V)
Posted by: butch at October 03, 2022 12:26 PM (cHvOo)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 03, 2022 12:26 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 03, 2022 12:26 PM (BFigT)
All while the hurricane is still a hundred miles beyond Cuba.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 03, 2022 12:26 PM (anj39)
Posted by: Sodom and Gomorrah at October 03, 2022 12:26 PM (ayzS/)
aurguing about whether they are lying ot not is mother's milk to the MSM
Posted by: REDACTED at October 03, 2022 12:26 PM (us2H3)
covid test
Posted by: kulak anachronda at October 03, 2022 12:26 PM (oY6Yp)
Posted by: SH (No more Roe)
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meanwhile, the irony of Europe giving up its heating oil to stop global warming.
they should have just followed the science and threw a mid virgin into a volcano...but no they're ngmi. no heat this winter. but at least the oceans won't flood them
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 12:26 PM (OuH7W)
Posted by: bed head at October 03, 2022 12:26 PM (Y1sOo)
In a lot of counties (including the US), politics has bifurcated into a right-wing Country Party and a left-wing City Party.
The City Party almost invariably controls the judiciary, the major media outlets, the universities, the governmental bureaucracy, and much else. One consequence of that is that members of the Country Party stop responding to pollsters, since pollsters are generally controlled by the City Party.
Well, the Communist Lula was supposed to easily beat Bolsonaro by 14 points, but only beat Bolsonaro by 4 points, and there will unexpectedly be a runoff at the end of the month. The polls hugely underestimated Bolsonaro's support.
Disappointed "reporters" at the New York Times and Washington Post had to tear up their pre-written missives about the huge surge in support for Left-wing politics in Latin America.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 03, 2022 12:26 PM (I2/tG)
When we had 30-minute newscasts on three networks, hurricanes were just another item. Now that we have 24 hours to fill and focused channels, everything is apocalyptic.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 03, 2022 12:27 PM (1Nxff)
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Dems have already called DeSantis racist for this because the Dems all know that looters are exclusively black just like Biden saying, "Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids!"
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 03, 2022 12:27 PM (yikp0)
Wendy's Baconators are good and messy, but a little overpriced.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 03, 2022 12:27 PM (V6f9+)
@DWUhlfelderLaw 19h
Hundreds of dead bodies found in Lee County, Florida. DeSantis stands by decision to wait until day before landfall to order evacuations in Lee County. H/t @SarahBurris @Acosta
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 03, 2022 12:27 PM (IyrhE)
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 03, 2022 12:27 PM (eGTCV)
That's like somebody accusing you of "threatening violence" for saying, "If you visit NYC, you might be mugged".
Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2022 12:27 PM (krQz2)
If some looter pulls his boat up to your house, on a canal in Port Royal or an island up the coast, and you shoot the motherfucker, do you get to keep his boat?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 03, 2022 12:27 PM (vI/Pp)
Category 3 - a storm surge of 9 to 12 feet. Flat terrain of less than 5ft could be flooded more than 8 miles inland.
Category 4 - a storm surge of 13 to 18ft. Flat terrain of less than 10ft could be flooded more than 6 miles inland.
So Ian's storm surge was more in line with a Category 2's range of 6 to 8 ft in Lee County.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 03, 2022 12:27 PM (bUcxF)
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When you have good insurance, money in the bank, and a second home, it is very easy to say, it's just property. When you have worked your hold life to buy a house and that is your only asset, you tend to risk a bit to make sure it is safe.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 03, 2022 12:28 PM (sX1BW)
That negates pretty much everything else he writes, because your typical “concerned” American will agree with eco-communists that we must do *something* to stop what Shellenberger acknowledges is happening.
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at October 03, 2022 12:28 PM (hOfCr)
I recall there were some nasty tornados that never sullied biden or obama
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 12:28 PM (OuH7W)
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 03, 2022 12:27 PM (eGTCV)
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The media generally only gives you more reason to think less of them.
Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2022 12:28 PM (krQz2)
I know there are other reasons given, but far too often, it's some peawit who thinks he's a badass and will "ride it out". Yeah, you'll ride it out until things get dicey, at which point you'll call 911 and try to get someone to risk their life to rescue your sorry ass.
I'm a Darwinian.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 03, 2022 12:28 PM (ayzS/)
I'm waiting for the media to accuse DeSantis of blowing up the Nordstream pipelines.
Posted by: Archimedes
They think that was a GOOD thing so I don't think they'll blame him.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 03, 2022 12:28 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 12:28 PM (OuH7W)
Seen on Twitter:
https://is.gd/ZyqlaF
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 03, 2022 12:26 PM (t0OGg)
Funny but needs more hot girls.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 03, 2022 12:28 PM (V6f9+)
That seems like a long time for a bug to continue.
Posted by: Kevin at October 03, 2022 12:28 PM (5hRfU)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 03, 2022 12:26 PM (I2/tG)
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"I can't believe he won. Nobody I know voted for Bush!"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 03, 2022 12:28 PM (t0OGg)
(R) Marco Rubio 48% (+7)
(D) Val Demings 41%
669 LV | 09/18-25 | R35/D34/I31
I believe everyone's been saying that Rubio is a tossup for months. Turns out the polls were wrong for months.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 03, 2022 12:17 PM
That's because pollsters switched from polling registered voters to using likely voters, happens every election. But it has been more pronounced lately because they are waiting until later and later in the election cycle to make the switch.
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 03, 2022 12:29 PM (bVYXr)
I recall there were some nasty tornados that never sullied biden or obama
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 12:28 PM (OuH7W)
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W was responsible for Katrina. Trump was responsible for Maria. Biden is not responsible for Ian.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 03, 2022 12:29 PM (LvTSG)
DeSantis could walk on water to rescue people from rooftops and the headline would be "DeSantis Can't Swim"
Posted by: DB at October 03, 2022 12:29 PM (geLO8)
That seems like a long time for a bug to continue.
Posted by: Kevin at October 03, 2022 12:28 PM (5hRfU)
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It's not a bug, it's a feature.
Literally.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 03, 2022 12:30 PM (t0OGg)
Let this just be another reminder that liberals are horrible and should be treated in kind.
Posted by: Rbastid at October 03, 2022 12:30 PM (it+io)
Posted by: Tonypete at October 03, 2022 12:30 PM (LsEU/)
it's not a bug- it's actually how you create that particular smiley
Posted by: DB at October 03, 2022 12:30 PM (geLO8)
If only he were governor of a state I'd want to move to. Or if only we had more like him in more states.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 03, 2022 12:18 PM (J2vNu)
This is what always kills me about the GOP. DeSantis is showing these R governors how it's done, and nobody seems to be taking up the mantle. Abbott is pretty much a GOP flatworm, but at least a flatworm responds to stimuli, and Abbott is doing the right thing under appropriate pressure from the TX right's base.
I'd take a flatworm over the rest of these GOP numbnuts.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 03, 2022 12:30 PM (9miN6)
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Biden is not.
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 12:30 PM (OuH7W)
FUCK the media. Fuck the left.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 03, 2022 12:30 PM (Zz0t1)
That seems like a long time for a bug to continue.
Posted by: Kevin at October 03, 2022 12:28 PM (5hRf
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I know. I love this place because of that sort of thing.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 03, 2022 12:30 PM (0fs9V)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 03, 2022 12:31 PM (0fs9V)
OUCH.
That picture of Ron Gillum passed out naked on the floor was bad enough, but the butt-spooge covered pillow one of his 'pals' thoughtfully placed under his head before taking the picture....yikes.
Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at October 03, 2022 12:31 PM (oedLL)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 03, 2022 12:31 PM (ayzS/)
Posted by: Tonypete at October 03, 2022 12:31 PM (LsEU/)
Posted by: Kevin at October 03, 2022 12:28 PM (5hRfU)
Ahem! A feature, not a buig!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - Our Beloved Leaders Have, and Deserve, Their Special Privileges at October 03, 2022 12:31 PM (hOUT3)
But we CAN have a President DeSantis and Governor Trump at the same time.
Posted by: Editor at October 03, 2022 12:31 PM (yTzX4)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 03, 2022 12:31 PM (0fs9V)
Posted by: Jen the original at October 03, 2022 12:31 PM (MakpH)
It's almost like there's some weird double standard......
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 03, 2022 12:31 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: fd 5.2.01b at October 03, 2022 12:31 PM (sn5EN)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 12:31 PM (OuH7W)
Posted by: Ripley at October 03, 2022 12:31 PM (MxEKc)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 03, 2022 12:31 PM (GYIa4)
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 03, 2022 12:29 PM (bVYXr)
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I think pollsters intentionally get it wrong in order to create narratives that they prefer.
I think they wanted to show Rubio neck and neck to help the Democrats of Florida fundraise and potentially create the environment where Rubio and DeSantis would lose.
Registered voters, likely voters, adults, future vision of only actual voters: all the same. They operate based on models of turnout regarding demographics, and that's what really drives their results. They could try to get that right, but they don't, not until they start doing final polls, the polls that places like 538towin use to gauge whether they're right or not. Not the months and months of wrong ones.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 03, 2022 12:31 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe
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As typical, real dumpster fire in comments.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2022 12:32 PM (CXr4y)
Posted by: pawn at October 03, 2022 12:32 PM (kYVzH)
But we CAN have a President DeSantis and Governor Trump at the same time.
Posted by: Editor at October 03, 2022 12:31 PM (yTzX4)
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Are you saying it's impossible for Trump to buy a house in Kansas at some point in the next two years?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 03, 2022 12:32 PM (LvTSG)
Very much old school.
Made me smile, it did.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at October 03, 2022 12:33 PM (5pTK/)
Posted by: Huck Follywood
The cops/guard would impound as 'evidence.' Unless the canal is open to the sea and you hired a maritime lawyer, you ain't gettin' it.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 03, 2022 12:33 PM (IyrhE)
Posted by: Mister Scott
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No it is because the majority of the polling firms are outright lying. It's not "being wrong" when you purposely skew your model to achieve a specific result.
A lot of people wanted Demmings to be viable. She has never been.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 03, 2022 12:33 PM (7pwgp)
The polls hugely underestimated Bolsonaro's support.
Disappointed "reporters" at the New York Times and Washington Post had to tear up their pre-written missives about the huge surge in support for Left-wing politics in Latin America.
Posted by: The ARC of History!
Fox News Radio calls Bolsonaro "far right wing"
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 03, 2022 12:33 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 03, 2022 12:17 PM
to be fair, people were saying Rubio's a tosser
Posted by: REDACTED at October 03, 2022 12:33 PM (us2H3)
what can you do. The GOP, which is no longer even a functioning party, can do what they always do and panic and spend more money, or they can try this new thing DeSantis is doing which is apparently "explaining things" and "defending your actions" in a manner that is "coherent."
just like Hilter.
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 12:33 PM (OuH7W)
Posted by: DB at October 03, 2022 12:33 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 03, 2022
there were still ships from that storm laying on their sides half a mile inland when Frederick hit Biloxi 11 years later
Posted by: x at October 03, 2022 12:33 PM (ZC2go)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 12:31 PM (OuH7W)
Imagine a functioning opposition party anywhere in the United States...
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana! ~ at October 03, 2022 12:33 PM (hOUT3)
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It's a weird argument, isn't it?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 03, 2022 12:34 PM (0fs9V)
Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 03, 2022 12:29 PM (bVYXr)
Good grief. Someone that took Logic 101 could have told these people that there is no way you're voting for the most popular governor in America - DeSantis - and not voting for the rest of the R ticket down the line. Same for GA. I didn't worry for one second about this result.
Polls do not measure opinion, of course - they (try to) shape it. During the summer, their marching orders were to depress R turnout. Now, their orders are to stir up D turnout.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 03, 2022 12:34 PM (9miN6)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 03, 2022 12:25 PM (t0OGg)
I think he was about 4 milliseconds from tent staking that rancid broad, but decided to let her just show her ass to the world all by herself.
Still, I would have preferred he dropped the mic right then and there, with her still attached to it.
From a helicopter.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at October 03, 2022 12:34 PM (MkuC5)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2022 12:34 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Huck Follywood
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if it's a looter, it's probably a team of FBI agents looking for booty
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 12:34 PM (OuH7W)
Snort
Posted by: rickb223 Cruel ace is the best ace at October 03, 2022 12:34 PM (UEL2X)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 03, 2022 12:33 PM (IyrhE)
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Oh, they are definitely open to the sea.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 03, 2022 12:34 PM (vI/Pp)
Obviously, to me anyway, don't drive down flooded roads. Don't walk around flooded areas. Sharks are not the issue. Gators are.
An unbelievable number of beach dwellers refuse to leave and then, when in trouble, it's too late for rescue. They may live but they'll whine about it forever. I have, so to say, not a lot of sympathy.
Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at October 03, 2022 12:34 PM (P+D9B)
It's a weird argument, isn't it?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 03, 2022 12:34 PM (0fs9V)
He would simply need to declare his residence in one of the many Trump Towers around the US.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 03, 2022 12:35 PM (Zz0t1)
But we CAN have a President DeSantis and Governor Trump at the same time.
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Are you saying it's impossible for Trump to buy a house in Kansas at some point in the next two years?
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If Trump really wanted DeSantis and DeSantis really wanted to be on the ticket, this pesky Constitutional requirement could be remedied quite easily.
If you hear either campaign use it as an excuse, it is just a cover for them not wanting to be on the same ticket.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 03, 2022 12:35 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Kevin at October 03, 2022 12:28 PM (5hRfU)
It's not a bug. That character combination is Unicode (IITC) for the smiley face. Maybe the HQ could turn off smileys altogether. It would easier than trying to write code to distinguish between an intentional smiley and an accidental one.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 03, 2022 12:35 PM (dt+Wi)
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 03, 2022 12:28 PM (sX1BW)
How is your physical presence gonna' make it safe?
Posted by: BignJames at October 03, 2022 12:35 PM (AwYPR)
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 03, 2022 12:35 PM (yikp0)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2022 12:34 PM (Ivdso)
Me neither.......
Posted by: $24 Million War Chest at October 03, 2022 12:35 PM (Zz0t1)
A lot of people wanted Demmings to be viable. She has never been.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 03, 2022 12:33 PM (7pwgp)
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Are polling firms skewing the results, because they think it will help create a "it's a close race" narrative, or, are they giving the people who write the checks the answers they want to hear?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at October 03, 2022 12:35 PM (5pTK/)
I think he convinced her. Starting out with: "where were all the press?" is pretty compelling.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2022 12:35 PM (Ivdso)
That area was given an evacuation order, which my family followed. This was when the storm surge fur their area was predicted to be 10-15 feet.
Some of their close neighbors did not evacuate, which would have been tragic for them, if Ian had not changed direction in the last day before landfall.
The people politicizing this are evil ghouls.
Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at October 03, 2022 12:35 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: Huck Follywood
Yes, but only if you have a letter of mark.
Posted by: Archer at October 03, 2022 12:35 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 12:33 PM (OuH7W)
Well, at least he made the trains run on time...
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana! ~ at October 03, 2022 12:35 PM (hOUT3)
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It's a weird argument, isn't it?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 03, 2022 12:34 PM (0fs9V)
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That it keeps coming back is what's really weird.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 03, 2022 12:36 PM (LvTSG)
RRH Elections
@RRHElections
When John Fetterman (D) was Mayor of Braddock he vandalized a local black owned business. Fetterman wanted to send a message that the government was going to shut down the black nightclub. This was a TV news story about Fetterman's vandalism at the time:
0:24 / 0:41
From
William Parker
5:51 AM · Oct 3, 2022
Posted by: 29Victor at October 03, 2022 12:36 PM (BJKQV)
Posted by: irright at October 03, 2022 12:36 PM (8rX4S)
Posted by: bed head at October 03, 2022 12:36 PM (Y1sOo)
I recall there were some nasty tornados that never sullied biden or obama
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 12:28 PM (OuH7W)
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Same with homelessness, crime, children dying of overdoses, inflation, recessions ... and we'll, pretty much every societal ill (always exacerbated by D's in office).
Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 03, 2022 12:36 PM (r43Wh)
It all starts with something called "competence". DeSantis has it. The GOP does not.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 03, 2022 12:36 PM (ayzS/)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at October 03, 2022 12:35 PM (5pTK/)
To ask that question is to answer that question!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana! ~ at October 03, 2022 12:37 PM (hOUT3)
but untill they stop voting for dims, there is not enuff
make them live with their own rules
Posted by: REDACTED at October 03, 2022 12:37 PM (us2H3)
Posted by: pawn at October 03, 2022 12:32 PM (kYVzH)
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I've never dealt with weather-related evacs, like a hurricane. I have dealt with fire evacuations, though, and took them seriously as did everyone I know. Fire is scary as fuck. Yeah, if you play the odds, your house is *very* unlikely to burn down in a wildfire, but if that fire sweeps through you're place, you're dead. No way out. No climbing to the roof, no trying to swim away, no clinging to a board, whatever. Just a big 'ole charred cinder.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 03, 2022 12:37 PM (t0OGg)
Yeah, the point of mainstream polling is to demoralize the Republicans and suppress Republican turnout, until they switch models late in the campaign so they can say at the end that they called the election accurate.
They are waiting until later and later in the campaign to switch from the "Republican voter suppression" model to the "our reputation requires an accurate final poll" model.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 03, 2022 12:37 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: DB at October 03, 2022 12:37 PM (geLO8)
but untill they stop voting for dims, there is not enuff
make them live with their own rules
Posted by: REDACTED at October 03, 2022 12:37 PM (us2H3)
"Elections have consequences."
- - Baroke Hussein Owebama
Posted by: $24 Million War Chest at October 03, 2022 12:38 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at October 03, 2022 12:35 PM (5pTK/)
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Both.
"It's a close race, send money." vs. "The D is getting blown out, there's no chance."
Campaigns are just about 85% graft, especially Democratic campaigns in blue states. See: Beto in Texas.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 03, 2022 12:38 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 03, 2022 12:32 PM (LvTSG)
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He's a 78 year old (or will be then) with a very complicated estate plan. My opinion is the chances are near zero he moves his residence prior to election day.
Kari Lake is a better candidate for Veep anyway, imo.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 03, 2022 12:38 PM (vI/Pp)
Trust the science of muh feels.
Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at October 03, 2022 12:38 PM (fKIdX)
Posted by: Hairlip Dog at October 03, 2022 12:38 PM (yHsuS)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 12:38 PM (OuH7W)
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 03, 2022 12:33 PM (IyrhE)
Looter prolly stole the boat in any case.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 03, 2022 12:38 PM (dt+Wi)
Posted by: pawn
Only time there was an evacuation order, a hundred or so of us were ordered by the governor to not evacuate. Hurricane Alicia in Galveston.
Posted by: rickb223 Cruel ace is the best ace at October 03, 2022 12:39 PM (UEL2X)
It's baffling to me how people, who are perfectly reasonable in other areas of their lives, can still not see the media's malfeasance.
Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at October 03, 2022 12:39 PM (Rbu5d)
They are waiting until later and later in the campaign to switch from the "Republican voter suppression" model to the "our reputation requires an accurate final poll" model.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 03, 2022 12:37 PM (I2/tG)
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"The red wave is gone. There's no point. Democrats will probably keep the House."
-People in August
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 03, 2022 12:39 PM (LvTSG)
Fuck them.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 03, 2022 12:39 PM (KbCG3)
just like Hilter.
Posted by: sockamster
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The GOP functions but it is for the benefit of its donors, not the general public. The Dems always have to spread as least some of the grift around to keep their factions from going to war. The GOPe officeholders rely on saying one thing and doing quite another. That is why they were shocked and repelled by Trump. He felt responsibility to at least try to do what he said he would do.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2022 12:39 PM (CXr4y)
Lula openly campaigns with the hammer and sickle, but no mainstream American media outlet would ever call him a Communist.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 03, 2022 12:39 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 03, 2022 12:39 PM (0fs9V)
Posted by: DB at October 03, 2022 12:39 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: Archer at October 03, 2022 12:39 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Shep! at October 03, 2022 12:39 PM (j40lz)
Posted by: bed head at October 03, 2022 12:36 PM (Y1sOo)
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Lee County issued an evacuation order at that time for this reason.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 03, 2022 12:40 PM (vI/Pp)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2022 12:34 PM
Beta O'Rourke has to idolize somebody.
Posted by: huerfano, stochastic commenter at October 03, 2022 12:40 PM (dTFZY)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 03, 2022 12:40 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 03, 2022 12:40 PM (SIZS3)
-People in August
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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mini moo hardest hit.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2022 12:40 PM (CXr4y)
*reads a Bloomberg news article and wishes for the plague of frogs on the writer. Ian was not 'almost a Category 5 storm.' It was mid-range Category 4 before landfall.*
But that should not be a factor in Fort Myers as it has been hit or grazed by 79 storms since 1930. Unless you just shrug it off as 'oh just another storm.'
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 03, 2022 12:40 PM (bUcxF)
It's a weird argument, isn't it?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 03, 2022 12:34 PM (0fs9V)
He would simply need to declare his residence in one of the many Trump Towers around the US.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 03, 2022 12:35 PM (Zz0t1)
Not only that, but leading up to 2000, Dick Cheney moved his residence to WY so he could run with Bush.
Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at October 03, 2022 12:41 PM (53oGX)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 03, 2022 12:32 PM (LvTSG)
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He's a 78 year old (or will be then) with a very complicated estate plan. My opinion is the chances are near zero he moves his residence prior to election day.
Kari Lake is a better candidate for Veep anyway, imo.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 03, 2022 12:38 PM (vI/Pp)
She very well could be, but I'd much rather have her serve a term as gov before tapping her for the spot (pun not intended). She needs to have a solid record of tangible accomplishment that a full first term would give her. I'd hate to see her Palined.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 03, 2022 12:41 PM (9miN6)
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 03, 2022 12:19 PM (iFTx/)
I assume that it varies by country.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 03, 2022 12:41 PM (GYIa4)
over at insty, his reaction over his movie flopping is getting a bit lunatic.
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 12:42 PM (OuH7W)
Posted by: Archer at October 03, 2022 12:42 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 03, 2022 12:42 PM (9k/S4)
Posted by: REDACTED at October 03, 2022 12:42 PM (us2H3)
Posted by: Huck Follywood
Well with the ocean that close, you don't even need a back hoe.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 03, 2022 12:42 PM (anj39)
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I fart in your general direction!
OK, it's really more like a sigh in your general direction, but you get my meaning, homophobe.
Posted by: Andrew Gillum at October 03, 2022 12:42 PM (sWM8x)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 03, 2022 12:16 PM (t0OGg)
I agree with you, but I must admit I prefer the archaic term "lying."
Posted by: Flyover's Kohlrabi at October 03, 2022 12:42 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 12:43 PM (OuH7W)
Why does the reporter of color have hair straightened like wipipo?
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at October 03, 2022 12:43 PM (G0bxm)
Posted by: Lena Dunham at October 03, 2022 12:43 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at October 03, 2022 12:40 PM (SIZS3)
If you get flooded the insurer is off the hook, mostly.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at October 03, 2022 12:43 PM (MkuC5)
Lula openly campaigns with the hammer and sickle, but no mainstream American media outlet would ever call him a Communist.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 03, 2022 12:39 PM (I2/tG)
That, and Lula was on trial for corruption less than two year ago. Yes, he was acquitted, but I'd think a serious Federal charge against him would have been enough to turn off the voting public.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 03, 2022 12:43 PM (9miN6)
over at insty, his reaction over his movie flopping is getting a bit lunatic.
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 12:42 PM (OuH7W)
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Gay actor who just had a starring vehicle bomb. He's a prima donna who just got told that opening night was only a quarter full.
Also, he's full of hate, probably because his dad didn't try to molest him as a child, or something.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 03, 2022 12:43 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 03, 2022 12:39 PM (0fs9V)
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He pays taxes (generically) in any state in which he does business or from which he earns income. But we are talking about estate taxes here. Florida is a great state in which to die. New Jersey and New York (the other states in which he owns a house), not so much.
And, because Democrats are complete assholes in persecuting him and his family, we are (at the extreme) talking about Florida's homestead protections for primary residence.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 03, 2022 12:43 PM (vI/Pp)
Posted by: Archer at October 03, 2022 12:42 PM (gmo/4)
TNT and tortilla soup
it's a tough life I lead
Posted by: REDACTED at October 03, 2022 12:44 PM (us2H3)
Posted by: Archer at October 03, 2022 12:42 PM (gmo/4)
Toilet cake.
Posted by: Lena Dunham
Aggie Breath Mints? Cool!
Posted by: rickb223 Cruel ace is the best ace at October 03, 2022 12:44 PM (UEL2X)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 03, 2022 12:37 PM (t0OGg)
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Unless your name is "Guyladriel." Then you can withstand a pyroclastic flow and emerge covered in nothing more than Cheeto dust... (Sorry, that scene is so, so stupid in Rings of Power.)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 03, 2022 12:44 PM (YIVH2)
Quite right. I'm a Youngkin fan, but I want him to finish his term before he runs for national office. Kari Lake has good political instincts and is quite a good speaker, but there's more than that to running a country.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 03, 2022 12:44 PM (ayzS/)
Posted by: Ripley at October 03, 2022 12:44 PM (MxEKc)
The evil Russians bombed their own pipeline!
But don't worry, it's great that they did!
Tee-hee!
Posted by: Anthony Blinken, Idiot! at October 03, 2022 12:45 PM (I2/tG)
They're eating babies in Okeechobee!!!
Posted by: The MFM at October 03, 2022 12:45 PM (Xrfse)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 03, 2022 12:45 PM (/EuRN)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2022 12:45 PM (Ivdso)
I predict a huge push for statehood in the next 12 months.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 03, 2022 12:45 PM (anj39)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 12:46 PM (OuH7W)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 03, 2022 12:46 PM (8oyo2)
Its not that i love trump so much verse he at least fought back. They will trash whoever speaks against the swamp no matter what. Only braindead assclowns or paid grifters believe otherwise.
Posted by: Eli Cash at October 03, 2022 12:46 PM (gcMAf)
Instead the hurricane went out to sea and came in about 10 miles south of us as a Cat 1. Thanks NOAA!
A ceramic pot broke and my blue bird house needed to be straightened.
Posted by: Regular joe at October 03, 2022 12:46 PM (nnp+f)
-Oh my lord...I'd kill myself if I was on SCOTUS
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 03, 2022 12:46 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: The MFM at October 03, 2022 12:45 PM (Xrfse)
I didn't know the DNC went down for a visit.
Posted by: Archer at October 03, 2022 12:46 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 03, 2022 12:46 PM (9k/S4)
but...no 12 minute gheybuttsecks orgies. so, kind of a win.
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 12:47 PM (OuH7W)
Why it can almost lead to open season on insurance adjusters.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 03, 2022 12:47 PM (bUcxF)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 03, 2022 12:41 PM (9miN6)
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that's probably right...I just love watching her take reporters apart and a Pay-per-View Veep debate with Kamala (assuming she is still there) would be money well spent.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 03, 2022 12:47 PM (vI/Pp)
For some reason "consensus science" decided Tallahassee made a better target.
Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at October 03, 2022 12:47 PM (kime7)
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Subsidies and flood insurance aside, there are millions of residents in Florida. Hurricanes while big, really affect a small percentage of homes.* Insurers can figure this out. But a freeze over the whole state of Texas that affects far more homes - that is more of a Black Swan event.
* one reason why people fail to evacuate. They have "been through" many a hurricane, but few actually go through the very small dead center. Go through that once, and you will likely never risk it again.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 03, 2022 12:47 PM (sX1BW)
He's also almost as old as Biden (76).
Posted by: Anthony Blinken, Idiot! at October 03, 2022 12:47 PM (I2/tG)
Yeah I want that to snowball. We've had tough talking people forever, who rarely get anything done. Shut your mouth and do the job.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2022 12:47 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Archer at October 03, 2022 12:42 PM (gmo/4)
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We'll be starting this afternoon's luncheon with a delightful pairing of prosciutto ham and mozzarella cheese paired with a salt-infused olive oil and a delightful lime chutney. Following that will be a green salad and the first drink course, which will be a fine Riesling wine. After that will be the main course of raspberry-braised lamb served with roasted potatoes and buttered asparagus, paired with a delightful Cabernet. For desert there will be a dark chocolate mousse followed by an assortment of single-malt Scotch whiskys.
Posted by: Maitre D' at October 03, 2022 12:47 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: BignJames at October 03, 2022 12:35 PM (AwYPR)
Damage Control. Patching the leak. Drying the floor.
Maybe nothing you can do will make a difference? But maybe it will.
Me? I would batten down the hatches, move everything off the lower floor, bag it all up, and RUN!
Take the important stuff with me to higher ground. (Even if it is just the third floor of a concrete parking garage.)
Posted by: rd at October 03, 2022 12:48 PM (Z32m1)
Just to be clear, you're saying that DeS is doing the correct thing by being tough, not just talking tough, right?
Posted by: Archimedes at October 03, 2022 12:48 PM (ayzS/)
Category 3 - a storm surge of 9 to 12 feet. Flat terrain of less than 5ft could be flooded more than 8 miles inland.
Category 4 - a storm surge of 13 to 18ft. Flat terrain of less than 10ft could be flooded more than 6 miles inland.
So Ian's storm surge was more in line with a Category 2's range of 6 to 8 ft in Lee County.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 03, 2022 12:27 PM (bUcxF)
Storm surge less than the height of your first floor (often the only floor for many FL homes) does not mean your house will remain standing with you treading water for a time inside. Water weighs 8.3 pounds per gallon. So a lot of mass was moving in the surges in Florida. The surge can destroy outer then inner walls and bring your roof or second floor down on top of you. Large debris will be in the surge if you are any distance inland and can damage structures the flowing water itself would leave standing.
Posted by: Gref at October 03, 2022 12:48 PM (AMIL/)
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I can't even keep it straight on who supposed to do it?
Biden acted like it was his idea
Putin is always doing things
Greta
Typical Russian incompetence leading to catastrophic failure?
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 12:49 PM (OuH7W)
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 03, 2022 12:49 PM (z+OQR)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 12:46 PM (OuH7W)
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They are almost certainly waiting until Season 2 to go full "woke" and show Sauron/Halbrand seducing Arondil...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 03, 2022 12:49 PM (YIVH2)
Posted by: pawn at October 03, 2022
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I hope this is my last hurricane season here. After the nightmare of the Katrina evac -- crawling 90 miles in 10 hours, sleeping on the floor of a rec center that would not let me bring the cats in -- I made it a point to either leave early, or wait until the winds and water are gone and I can drive out easily. The latter was what we did last year.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 03, 2022 12:49 PM (J2vNu)
I worked our little local food bank for days, getting folk set up with food and letting them "shop" the donations that were pouring in.
I heard a lot of people say the liked how we did things in TX way more than in NO. I imagine many of them did not go back home.
Posted by: sal at October 03, 2022 12:51 PM (y40tE)
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 03, 2022 12:49 PM (z+OQR)
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As I have gotten older, I have come to appreciate this more and more. A simple hamburger, done properly, is a wonderful thing. Ditto for pizza. If the pizza is truly good, it needs nothing but cheese. Black olives if you want to church it up some.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 03, 2022 12:51 PM (t0OGg)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at October 03, 2022 12:51 PM (G0bxm)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 12:51 PM (OuH7W)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 03, 2022 12:41 PM (9miN6)
Palin fought off the slings and arrows of her enemies quite well. The knives that gutted her were the ones in her back.
Posted by: rd at October 03, 2022 12:52 PM (Z32m1)
I was just analyzing the storm surge nothing else.
Distant cousin in Louisiana got their house in the papers after Katrina because the waters literally lifted their brick house, with concrete foundation, and moved it until the house settled in the middle of an intersection.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 03, 2022 12:52 PM (bUcxF)
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 03, 2022 12:49 PM (z+OQR)
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There is a lot to be said for a burger made "just right." It's a terrific comfort food, hot and filling, just satisfying all around...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 03, 2022 12:52 PM (YIVH2)
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Didn't they already have to do this for Dubya and Cheney back in 2000?
Posted by: junior at October 03, 2022 12:52 PM (PTw5h)
Posted by: CIA at October 03, 2022 12:52 PM (bs+z0)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 12:53 PM (OuH7W)
Some here need to realize this too.
Oh, and a prediction: The damage will be cleaned up and everything rebuilt within 18 months. FL is a Right to Work state.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 03, 2022 12:53 PM (BdMk6)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 03, 2022 12:51 PM (t0OGg)
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The true magic of a pizza seems to be in the crust...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at October 03, 2022 12:53 PM (YIVH2)
That is the achilles heel of national GOP politics--the big donors are to the left (or on some issues diametrically opposed) of the GOP base of voters. So the defense interest groups wants big money spent on defense and endless wars, the companies relying on cheap labor want open trade and open borders, the finance donors want cheap money and no antitrust enforcement, the lawyers want their cronies or themselves appointed to federal judgeships or DOJ jobs, etc. etc.
To even attempt a fix of the republic, the GOP has to focus on increasing the cost of labor by trade and immigration policies, rely on prudent antitrust and fiscal policies, withdraw from endless overseas commitments, lower the cost of energy, and break the elite law domination of federal court appointments. Then you have all the social issues that the GOP would have to stomp on and offend many of their donors and those donors circle of friends.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2022 12:53 PM (CXr4y)
Posted by: Emmie at October 03, 2022 12:53 PM (6RgRK)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 12:53 PM (OuH7W)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 03, 2022 12:53 PM (UuD2k)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 12:53 PM (OuH7W)
Posted by: Archer at October 03, 2022 12:54 PM (gmo/4)
Yeah I want that to snowball. We've had tough talking people forever, who rarely get anything done. Shut your mouth and do the job.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2022 12:47 PM (Ivdso)
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I concur. The results will speak for themselves. When you go with facts of what has been accomplished, the media is hopelessly lost.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 03, 2022 12:54 PM (anj39)
Posted by: Maitre D' at October 03, 2022 12:47 PM (t0OGg)
Now, I'm really hungry.
Posted by: Roland THTG at October 03, 2022 12:54 PM (j40lz)
My new favorite word association with these two
Luntz unctuous
BigK irksome
BigK wants to be Mr. Speaker soooo bad.
Posted by: micky at October 03, 2022 12:54 PM (3byMq)
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They've been intensifying to me.
Posted by: Don Le Mon at October 03, 2022 12:54 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: junior
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Yes. Cheney lived in Texas but relocated his flag to a property still owned in Wyoming.
This is one of the sillier issues that people continue to obsess over but given Scotus rulings on residency is easy to circumvent.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2022 12:55 PM (CXr4y)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 12:55 PM (OuH7W)
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Although obviously rare, I read where the 2004 hurricane season damaged one in every five residences in FL.
Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 03, 2022 12:55 PM (r43Wh)
Blame the victimsHow Republican of them.
Evacuation would be easier if Florida had high speed rail that GOP opposes Up to 125 mph to move people from one coast to another would be pretty handy
Would have if then Gov Voldemort didn't kill the funding.
Blame them for not leaving early. Fire them for leaving early. Many businesses tell their people they are expected at work until the mandatory evac orders are given.
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at October 03, 2022 12:55 PM (JCZqz)
Now, I'm really hungry.
Posted by: Roland THTG at October 03, 2022 12:54 PM (j40lz)
Followed by a mint... waffer theen.
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at October 03, 2022 12:55 PM (MkuC5)
Both can be on the same ticket. The electoral college issue is that a state (Florida) can not cast its electoral votes for both President and Vice President from their own state. With the number of FL electoral votes you would run the risk of P and VP being from different parties if the EC vote is close.
Posted by: Chuck C at October 03, 2022 12:56 PM (xttsV)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 03, 2022 12:51 PM (t0OGg)
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I thought "churching it up" would be using communion wafers as a topping...
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 03, 2022 12:56 PM (to2dd)
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at October 03, 2022 12:55 PM (JCZqz)
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Even for DU, that's a full retard take.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 03, 2022 12:56 PM (t0OGg)
Some people are weather junkies and get off on watching weather. Even very bad dangerous weather. Didn't a couple of those stormchasers get killed when a tornado turned into their path?
I would be the last person to approve of mandated evacuation. It's your home, if you want to stay in it and maybe die, it's on you. I do like what the cops tell them, though... write your SS# on your arm so we can identify your body.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 03, 2022 12:56 PM (y3pKJ)
Blame them for not leaving early. Fire them for leaving early. Many businesses tell their people they are expected at work until the mandatory evac orders are given.
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at October 03, 2022 12:55 PM (JCZqz)
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1) California.
2) What universe do these people live in? I've never worked at a company where they've said, "You'd better stay in the path of a natural disaster that's definitely coming this way or you're fired." I'm sure there are example, but this doesn't line up with my lived experiences.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 03, 2022 12:56 PM (LvTSG)
This assumes a non-Trump contender needs as much money as he did in the past. I argue that those days are gone. Most of what the "political consultant" class does now is utterly worthless, and only serves to feather their own nests. You reach a lot more people online for a small fraction of the cost then you would need for traditional TV and newspaper ads, whose efficacy has long been in the decline.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 03, 2022 12:57 PM (ayzS/)
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 03, 2022 12:25 PM (iFTx/)
Deaths from all causes within 2 weeks of a positive hurricane test are considered to be caused by the hurricane.
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 03, 2022 12:57 PM (GYIa4)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 03, 2022 12:57 PM (/EuRN)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 03, 2022 12:58 PM (9k/S4)
Posted by: Archimedes at October 03, 2022 12:57 PM (ayzS/)
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Conventional wisdom is going to take a long time to die when it comes to campaign moneys. People will raise cash for TV ads for another 50 years even though they don't really do anything, and we all know it, now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 03, 2022 12:58 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: rd
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Still is knifing her in the back (see the ranked choice piece of shit that the Uniparty sponsored in AK) and Begich refusing to get out of the race. Palin challenged the corrupt GOP establishment in AK that relied on grifts from oil companies and federal spending which is the reason she is an apostate to the state political structure. McCain posed as an outsider but his machine was based on pay for play all the way back to the Keating era. He just got away with it.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2022 12:58 PM (CXr4y)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 03, 2022 12:16 PM (t0OGg)
Lie. That's the word.
Posted by: Buddy at October 03, 2022 12:58 PM (FCbAQ)
We did it. Nobody in the US government will publicly deny that we did it, and that idiot Blinken said how wonderful it was that someone had sabotaged the pipeline.
How hard would it have been for Blinken to say that:
"We condemn the sabotage of the pipeline, and we will work with our allies to determine who did it."
But no, Blinken had to state that the pipeline sabotage was a wonderful opportunity to wean Europe off of Russian energy.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 03, 2022 12:59 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 12:59 PM (OuH7W)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 03, 2022 12:56 PM (LvTSG)
They live in the universe where all Bosses wear pinstripe suits, monocles, and twiddly grey mustaches. And they say "Mnyeahh!!!" either before or after every utterance.
In other words, they live in a fantasy world.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 03, 2022 12:59 PM (/EuRN)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 03, 2022 12:58 PM (9k/S4)
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I lived in central Florida through my first year of high school, and there were a handful of hurricane days. I had school canceled once, only once, my entire tenure in the FL school system (most of it private, Catholic schools).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, searching for the Invisible Man with Dracula and Frankenstein's monster at October 03, 2022 12:59 PM (LvTSG)
And being Gay and in a committed relationship takes some ammunition away from the left.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 03, 2022 12:59 PM (Y+l9t)
Posted by: Intrepid Democratic Underground AoS Liaison at October 03, 2022 12:55 PM (JCZqz)
Whew. We'll be set in Cali in the year 2525, if man is still alive, if woman can survive.
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 03, 2022 12:59 PM (AiZBA)
Yes but those 76 would be alive today if they had been vaxed.
Posted by: Ripley at October 03, 2022 12:59 PM (MxEKc)
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The masks are off. We might as well call it "The Party".
Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2022 12:59 PM (krQz2)
I was reading earlier about Kamala's "equity" push for hurricane relief. I remember only a couple years ago when I was gobsmacked to hear about yet another college trip down to New Orleans to "help the people recover from Katrina." It was a what the fuck moment. If you aren't recovered from Katrina, you're not even trying. I can bet you that there will be no such recovery efforts for Florida Man, but he'll have things up & running by Spring Break, like nothing ever happened.
Posted by: red speck at October 03, 2022 01:00 PM (gS3OW)
@PamKeithFL 4h
I am telling you right now, DeSantis is going to undercount the dead from Ian.
He is going to hide the numbers, and pressure people to count deaths related to Ian as something else, some other natural cause.
To him, it is all about optics.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 03, 2022 01:00 PM (IyrhE)
Read your Florida history you dumbass...
Labor Day Hurricane. Florida Keys. Thousands of workers. And one rail line out.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 03, 2022 01:00 PM (bUcxF)
Okay, so, let's say high speed rail is available. The stations are built to handle, maybe, 1,000 people an hour. Which means it takes 24 hours to move 24,000 people, and that's if the passengers have no baggage, pets, etc.
How many people live in the Tampa area?
*my 1,000 people an hour is a WAG, for baseline purposes.
I also note DU is all about making people evacuate, in other words, at the point of a gun. Yet, these loons are now representative of mainstream democrats.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at October 03, 2022 01:01 PM (5pTK/)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2022 01:01 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at October 03, 2022 01:01 PM (to2dd)
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It can easily be overcome. But I still like the requirement.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 03, 2022 01:01 PM (sX1BW)
The stupid courtly Gentleman Bush should have fired the stupid bitch governor loudly and publicly after she froze and refused to make any decisions or take any actions.
Bush should have excoriated the Chocolate Mayor of New Orleans for abandoning his city.
Posted by: rd at October 03, 2022 01:01 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: Catherine at October 03, 2022 01:02 PM (ZSsrh)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 03, 2022 01:02 PM (BFigT)
That's how people like this approach everything. Climatology data. Election results. Disaster reports.
Come up with a number. That is Your Truth. Any discrepancy between Your Truth and anything else anyone else says is A Lie. Because it isn't Your Truth. Ipso Fatso, GED. Shut 'er down.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 03, 2022 01:02 PM (/EuRN)
The stupid courtly Gentleman Bush should have fired the stupid bitch governor loudly and publicly after she froze and refused to make any decisions or take any actions.
Bush should have excoriated the Chocolate Mayor of New Orleans for abandoning his city.
Posted by: rd at October 03, 2022 01:01 PM (Z32m1)
"George Bush hates black people."
- - Kanye West
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 03, 2022 01:03 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2022 01:03 PM (Ivdso)
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How do you do that without big Tech fortifying the result? I don't think you need to be spending money on a bunch of mail fliers, robocalls, and tv ads either but you do need to be spending big bucks on getting out the vote and pre lawyering the election in every state. Travel, security, fundraising, etc. also eat up a big amount of your spending and then you also have the primaries to run through if not an incumbent Prezzie. To credibly run, it will take hundreds of millions if not a billion or so and that money has to be raised. The easiest way to do it is through big donors and that is what sank Walker in 2016. We forget how stolid Walker was in confronting far more nastiness in WI than DeSantis has faced in FL.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2022 01:03 PM (CXr4y)
Time to get on with the divorce.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 03, 2022 01:03 PM (YV6PJ)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 01:03 PM (OuH7W)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2022 01:03 PM (Ivdso)
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Clearly we need common sense soccer control.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 03, 2022 01:04 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at October 03, 2022 01:04 PM (53oGX)
I am telling you right now, DeSantis is going to undercount the dead from Ian.
He is going to hide the numbers, and pressure people to count deaths related to Ian as something else, some other natural cause.
****
Covid killed them, Pam.
Posted by: Azathoth at October 03, 2022 01:04 PM (wb1YC)
Labor Day Hurricane. Florida Keys. Thousands of workers. And one rail line out.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 03, 2022 01:00 PM (bUcxF)
Wasn't Key West one of the biggest cities in Florida at that time?
Posted by: rd at October 03, 2022 01:04 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 01:04 PM (OuH7W)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 03, 2022 12:57 PM (/EuRN)
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That's why I call them "the Preening class".
Unfortunately, for what it takes to run, all of our "public representatives" have to come from this demographic.
Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2022 01:04 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Fool Otto at October 03, 2022 01:04 PM (DB16e)
20 seconds of pure, homespun truth and humor.
Posted by: Voter theater. at October 03, 2022 01:06 PM (/5Who)
Posted by: rd at October 03, 2022 01:01 PM (Z32m1)
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How does a President fire a governor?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 03, 2022 01:06 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 03, 2022 01:06 PM (/EuRN)
Bush should have excoriated the Chocolate Mayor of New Orleans for abandoning his city.
Posted by: rd at October 03, 2022 01:01 PM (Z32m1)
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I believe the governor of LA at the time of Katrina was more than willing to let people die in order to score points off of Bush.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at October 03, 2022 01:06 PM (5pTK/)
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 03, 2022 01:06 PM (iFTx/)
I'd take a flatworm over the rest of these GOP numbnuts.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 03, 2022 12:30 PM
A number of the newer GOP governors in smaller population states are doing good things but they get no notice in the national media. So it is not talked about here.
Posted by: Beartooth at October 03, 2022 01:06 PM (3p4cr)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 03, 2022 01:06 PM (UuD2k)
Good luck with that scenario.
Posted by: Orson at October 03, 2022 01:07 PM (YYfJ4)
like, you blame politicians when bad things happen from stupidity. There's a snow storm and boston and no one blames the governor unless he snorted up all the salt. Or mayor Barry going on vacation right before a blizzard.
you know, like in Washington state when they replaced the salt with green-bullshit fake salt that didn't melt snow. It's a hurricane, it's dangerous, it's Florida, what do you want?
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 01:07 PM (OuH7W)
Posted by: Roland F Hirsch at October 03, 2022 01:07 PM (oMkPq)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 01:03 PM (OuH7W)
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And they thought the air-conditioned individual-seated travel to Martha's Vineyard had an Auschwitz feel.
Posted by: Axeman at October 03, 2022 01:07 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 01:04 PM (OuH7W)
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To be fair, he had a lot of practice at inhaling.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 03, 2022 01:07 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2022 01:03 PM (Ivdso)
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Clearly we need common sense soccer control.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 03, 2022 01:04 PM (YqDXo)
The police fired tear gas INSIDE the stadium, and the resulting stampede killed them and injured 200+ more. That is more people than the FBI killed in Waco with their "Non-Lethal" Tear Gas.
Posted by: rd at October 03, 2022 01:07 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: sockamster, Aos ShowRunner at October 03, 2022 01:08 PM (OuH7W)
Posted by: bed head at October 03, 2022 01:08 PM (Y1sOo)
https://youtu.be/czfKPaypNsU
Posted by: Sharkman at October 03, 2022 01:08 PM (xWoVT)
Posted by: Diogenes at October 03, 2022 01:08 PM (anj39)
But the reporters today are breathtakingly vile liars. The Narratives are their absolute Gods, and there's nothing they won't sacrifice to them.
Posted by: Ordinary American at October 03, 2022 01:08 PM (H8QX8)
- - Kanye West
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And a few years later W's being hugged by Michelle Obama.
"It's a big old club.... And you ain't in it."
Posted by: Azathoth at October 03, 2022 01:08 PM (wb1YC)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at October 03, 2022 01:01 PM (5pTK/)
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Question: how many of the people who failed to evacuate and died were EV owners?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 03, 2022 01:09 PM (YqDXo)
I am telling you right now, DeSantis is going to undercount the dead from Ian.
He is going to hide the numbers, and pressure people to count deaths related to Ian as something else, some other natural cause.
****
Covid killed them, Pam.
Posted by: Azathoth
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Damn Covid!
Posted by: rickb223 Cruel ace is the best ace at October 03, 2022 01:09 PM (UEL2X)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
Forget it, he's rolling...
Posted by: DB at October 03, 2022 01:10 PM (geLO8)
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I did not know that. Leave W alone. He's suffered enough.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 03, 2022 01:10 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Bosk at October 03, 2022 01:10 PM (v4L7Y)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 03, 2022 01:09 PM (YqDXo)
In a perfect world, all of them.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 03, 2022 01:10 PM (VwHCD)
Nobody really buys into these deaths being DeSantis fault.
I actually do think Bush's response to Katrina deserved criticism, fwiw. Not the hysterical response the media gave, but it was some really bad optics mixed with some really bad people he had appointed calling the shots.
Posted by: Blago at October 03, 2022 01:10 PM (PwNLq)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at October 03, 2022 12:27 PM (V6f9+)
What's "overpriced" now? How can you tell if you're being overcharged or if costs justify the increase? There's a lot of room for "profit-taking" in an era of high inflation because nobody knows the value of anything at a given moment.
Try buying physical silver. The spot price says 20.00, same as in town. But the actual price is closer to 30, and who's to say if the seller is gouging or if the spot price is being manipulated downward or if actual silver is tougher to get than indicated.
The price is what it is, and the only leverage against it is to say no and move along.
Posted by: Buddy at October 03, 2022 01:10 PM (FCbAQ)
https://tinyurl.com/3curzv4y
A police chase in Oregon ended when a driver fleeing authorities in a stolen car crashed into a woman driving another stolen car.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2022 01:10 PM (Ivdso)
Tech censorship is absolutely a problem, but that doesn't mean TV ads are a solution. How many people still read a paper, or watch network TV? The long term solution is obviously to make Tech choose whether they are a publisher or a platform, i.e. 230 reform.
Regardless, although large donors might be the easiest way, a guy like DeSantis is smart enough to see that taking smaller donations and telling the big GOPe donors to f*** off would be an enormous boost to his campaign. The big donors have the bucks, but they don't have votes.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 03, 2022 01:11 PM (ayzS/)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 03, 2022 01:11 PM (UuD2k)
Found the graph in The Hurricane and Its Impact showing whereas the damage cost from storms has risen since 1910 to 1970, the number of deaths has inversely declined.
Fig. 135 on pg 293
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 03, 2022 01:11 PM (bUcxF)
UK Guardian: Florida accounted for all but four of the fatalities, with 42 tallied by the sheriff’s office in coastal Lee County, which bore the brunt of the storm when it made landfall, and a further 39 deaths reported by officials in four neighbouring counties.
Posted by: Lola at October 03, 2022 01:11 PM (NIYa7)
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I've heard he watches Prometheus at least one a month.
Posted by: Darth Randall at October 03, 2022 01:11 PM (zL564)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
Forget it, he's rolling...
Posted by: DB at October 03, 2022 01:10 PM (geLO
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I was asking because I have an interest in the matter. (Looks over at Governor Brylcream ...)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 03, 2022 01:11 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: SMOD at October 03, 2022 01:11 PM (RHGPo)
Posted by: wth at October 03, 2022 01:12 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 03, 2022 01:10 PM (YqDXo)
Maybe. Maybe not.
Posted by: Stan at October 03, 2022 01:12 PM (FCbAQ)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 03, 2022 12:27 PM (vI/Pp)
What boat?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 03, 2022 01:12 PM (GYIa4)
Posted by: Azathoth at October 03, 2022 01:12 PM (wb1YC)
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I hear a lot of people complain about profit taking - most of the time it is from people who seek profit (I hear it from business owners complaining about rising costs). I find it an odd turn of phrase. As if in times of inflation, you are not able to take a profit.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 03, 2022 01:12 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2022 01:10 PM (Ivdso)
And they say the Rom-Com is dead...
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 03, 2022 01:12 PM (/EuRN)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 03, 2022 01:12 PM (bUcxF)
Posted by: Lola at October 03, 2022 01:11 PM (NIYa7)
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Deaths in a Republican county? No problem. Never mind.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 03, 2022 01:13 PM (YqDXo)
***
You mean that thing in the water with my fingerprints all over it and a bunch of my s*** in it? Sorry about the missing registration numbers, I've been busy a lot. Just write me a small ticket and I'll get it registered.
Posted by: Azathoth at October 03, 2022 01:14 PM (wb1YC)
The left is evil. The left is Satan. The left can GFI.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 03, 2022 12:17 PM (Zz0t1)
.........
More electricity puns?
Posted by: wth at October 03, 2022 01:14 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Archer at October 03, 2022 01:14 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 03, 2022 01:12 PM (sX1BW)
Profit is the market signal that you are producing what people need or want. That's all it is.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 03, 2022 01:14 PM (UuD2k)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 03, 2022 01:14 PM (9k/S4)
Posted by: NR Pax at October 03, 2022 01:15 PM (4olE8)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2022 01:10 PM (Ivdso)
A match made in....somewhere.
Posted by: Archer at October 03, 2022 01:15 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 03, 2022 01:14 PM (9k/S4)
Somebody cool made fun of them once.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 03, 2022 01:15 PM (/EuRN)
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli Babbitt/Rosanne Boyland at October 03, 2022 01:12 PM (GYIa4)
What looter?
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at October 03, 2022 01:15 PM (MkuC5)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at October 03, 2022 01:15 PM (5pTK/)
(anyone know if Nurse needs bore cleaner?)
The best part is, one was at a bar near the U of Washington where students were "just hanging out" at about 1AM.
Let m think about this...1 AM on a Monday morning and students are just hanging out.
Yeah...college is different now.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 03, 2022 01:16 PM (anj39)
Fuck the boat. Pretend it's somali pirates, mag dump the whole thing and send the whole shebang to a watery grave.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 03, 2022 01:16 PM (VwHCD)
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When what a dollar is actually worth is in dispute, pricing becomes a "jump ball" to see how high you can go.
We're raising prices for our customers, because simply a dollar is worth less, so now we need more of them. Some of it is input costs, some of it is we feel we need more profits to fight what inflation has done.
It's why a sound and stable currency is so important.
Posted by: Blago at October 03, 2022 01:16 PM (PwNLq)
Time to get on with the divorce.
Posted by: BurtTC
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I think the issue is more that the elites both GOP and Dem agree with each other than they do with the welfare of their own voters.
Public opinion on abortion being safe, rare and legal at early stages has been dominant since about the early 1980's. Voter id, closing the border, etc. ditto. Also limiting welfare, staying out of foreign wars, no corporate welfare, etc have majority support from the left and right. Since the elite classes are distributed across the US and often they are located in cities, there are blue cities and red counties in most of the country which makes it unwieldy to separate compared with the previous civil war.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2022 01:16 PM (CXr4y)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at October 03, 2022 12:27 PM (vI/Pp)
What boat?
Posted by: I used to have a different nic, Ashli
Probably not because most likely the boat is stolen.
Posted by: Beartooth at October 03, 2022 01:17 PM (3p4cr)
Posted by: Ordinary American at October 03, 2022 01:17 PM (H8QX8)
I'm not talking about the poor mokes that were in houses that were built pre-Charlie and could never be built today given the codes. I mean the beach dwellers in their big tall built-to-code multi-million-dollar places.
Now they are begging for a ferry ride in or a copter ride in, sharing the benches with the working class crackers from Pine Island. No workers can afford to live on Captiva or Sanibel.
We've a winter home in Naples, but far enough inland so there was nothing but some tree debris and a 68-hour power outage. No problems now. The HOA manager says everybody's favorite mobile pizza oven guy will have his rig at the club tonight.
But downtown and the beaches are a disaster, and we're gonna have to deal with all the dopes from the east coast driving over to see the disaster-porn show, for a month or more.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at October 03, 2022 01:17 PM (vGm8O)
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 03, 2022 01:18 PM (iFTx/)
"Do what with my boat? Fuck no, dude, I just painted the thing last month!"
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 03, 2022 01:19 PM (/EuRN)
It has to be more than the total death toll of this once-in-500 years hurricane.
Posted by: Ordinary American at October 03, 2022 01:19 PM (H8QX8)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at October 03, 2022
***
Kathleen Babblin' BlankStare was a Dem. That said, I think she was just incompetent.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 03, 2022 01:19 PM (J2vNu)
Posted by: Lola at October 03, 2022 01:19 PM (NIYa7)
And the sauce. Get those two right and its gold, because the toppings do not vary much in quality.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2022 01:20 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 03, 2022 01:14 PM (9k/S4)
You most likely have. They became a low-hanging punchline, kind of like how people turned on Dane Cook. There's nothing inherently wrong with them but there's nothing inherently right with them either. Just fashionable to mock, as they sound like every other stupid band that's out now.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 03, 2022 01:20 PM (KbCG3)
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But then you'll lose your Prize Money!
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 03, 2022 01:20 PM (yikp0)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 03, 2022 01:20 PM (9k/S4)
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Couple with the fact that nobody knows what the value of anything at a future moment will be.
Posted by: ShainS -- Triple-Jabbed & Quad-Boosted with the Biden Hurricane-22 Vaccine at October 03, 2022 01:20 PM (l5rRg)
After all, they announced, days ago, that such a visit is "planned."
Want to bet he doesn't make it? He'll see it from a copter, and then go out to Puerto Rico.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at October 03, 2022 01:21 PM (vGm8O)
And the sauce. Get those two right and its gold, because the toppings do not vary much in quality.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2022 01:20 PM (Ivdso)
For me, this is true for fruit pies as well.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 03, 2022 01:21 PM (9miN6)
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 03, 2022 01:20 PM (yikp0)
That's what the letter of re-prize-al is for!
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 03, 2022 01:21 PM (/EuRN)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 03, 2022 01:21 PM (UuD2k)
(anyone know if Nurse needs bore cleaner?)
The best part is, one was at a bar near the U of Washington where students were "just hanging out" at about 1AM.
Let m think about this...1 AM on a Monday morning and students are just hanging out.
Yeah...college is different now.
Posted by: Diogenes at October 03, 2022 01:16 PM (anj39)
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Definitely. I used to shut down the science and engineering library at midnight, but then go home to sleep. Oddly, no one shoots up the science and engineering library.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 03, 2022 01:21 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Diogenes at October 03, 2022 01:21 PM (anj39)
DeSantis is a good governor, a popular one too, and powerful.
Why on earth would he run for a powerless office like President? Just to be shat upon by all of American officialdom for four doomed years?
It makes no sense to me. So I think I'm with TJM on the "he ain't runnin'" thing.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 03, 2022 01:22 PM (oINRc)
And being Gay and in a committed relationship takes some ammunition away from the left.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at October 03, 2022 12:59 PM (Y+l9t)
Fuck him with the barbed cock of Satan ( which he would probably enjoy). He spewed a bunch of hateful, provable lies about Kathy Barnette, the MAGA lady who ran against Oz in the Penn. primary.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 03, 2022 01:22 PM (8uRNY)
6/2/2022
Posted by: Azathoth at October 03, 2022 01:22 PM (wb1YC)
Posted by: DB at October 03, 2022 01:22 PM (geLO8)
Nagin was too busy blaming everyone else for his failures. He was sent to prison for other reasons, the murder of citizens was not it.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 03, 2022 01:22 PM (bUcxF)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 03, 2022 01:22 PM (UuD2k)
Every disaster plan includes shelters that are built to withstand things like hurricanes better than a house on the beach. They don't go because they don't want to, not because there is no other option.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 03, 2022 01:22 PM (ayzS/)
This past weekend alone, Chicago had 37 shootings and 5 fatalities.
Posted by: Archer at October 03, 2022 01:22 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 03, 2022 01:20 PM (KbCG3)
Yep. The poster child for uninspiring, mass-produced, barely better than elevator music background noise.
Is that nickleback playing?
How would one know?
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 03, 2022 01:22 PM (yHsuS)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius, dreaming of Elsewhere at October 03, 2022 01:19 PM (J2vNu)
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Maybe she's was just an old school incompetent pol. These days, though, I firmly believe Democrats and their GOPe counterparts, are outright malevolent.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at October 03, 2022 01:22 PM (5pTK/)
— Joe Biden
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 03, 2022 01:20 PM (9k/S4)
Yeah......I know.
Posted by: Joe Biden's Pants at October 03, 2022 01:23 PM (Zz0t1)
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Better post-office benefits?
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 03, 2022 01:23 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 03, 2022 01:23 PM (bUcxF)
Posted by: Diogenes at October 03, 2022 01:21 PM (anj39)
Remember - all four wheels on the pavement.
Posted by: Archer at October 03, 2022 01:24 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 03, 2022 01:21 PM (UuD2k)
Never a One, nor even coming close. What difference does it make?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 03, 2022 01:24 PM (8uRNY)
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at October 03, 2022 01:20 PM (KbCG3)
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You wound us, sir!
Posted by: coldplay at October 03, 2022 01:24 PM (5pTK/)
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 03, 2022 01:12 PM (sX1BW)
That's why it's in quotations. There's an insinuation of gouging or taking unfair advantage there.
Again, unless we're talking necessities, the answer to egregiously high prices is to walk away, the market will figure it out eventually.
Posted by: Buddy at October 03, 2022 01:24 PM (FCbAQ)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 03, 2022 01:24 PM (TbpGr)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 03, 2022 01:24 PM (9k/S4)
"CHOP Gender Clinic" co-founder, Naida Dowshen, recruited research subjects from a youth homeless shelter and foster care.
"Rachel" Levine is neck waddle deep in this shit too.
https://bit.ly/3e46TjY
They're arguing, among other things, that emancipated minors don't need parental consent. These kids often become emancipated because their parents are completely incapable of being a positive influence. So these kids are mentally broken, have no support structure around them, and no adults working in their best interest. THESE are the kids Rachel Levine and Nadia Dowshen are recruiting to experiment on. MONSTERS.
Posted by: bonhomme at October 03, 2022 01:24 PM (eyxn4)
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Problem is that DeSantis raised $171 mil by Sept. 21 for his FL run by last count and much of that was from big donors. From Open Secrets,
"DeSantis’ reelection campaign has been backed by at least 42 billionaires and members of billionaire families, the Sarasota Herald-Tribune’s Zac Anderson reported. The billionaires come from 15 states and only 17 of them gave to DeSantis in 2018."
Ten percent of the total came from the GOPe friendly Republican Gov. Association which is refusing to fund Mastriano.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2022 01:25 PM (CXr4y)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 03, 2022 01:25 PM (/EuRN)
Is that nickleback playing?
How would one know?
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 03, 2022 01:22 PM (yHsuS)
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I disagree with that. Nickleback sounds exactly like Nickleback. It is completely impossible to know *which* Nickleback song is playing, but it's pretty easy to determine when it's a Nickleback song.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 03, 2022 01:25 PM (t0OGg)
I agree completely. He is doing good work and showing the way for other governors in Florida now. He's much better in place than running for president or in some alternate universe winning.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2022 01:25 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Ordinary American at October 03, 2022 01:17 PM (H8QX
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This.
The Reds long ago heavily penetrated the MSM.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 03, 2022 01:25 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 03, 2022 01:25 PM (yikp0)
Posted by: wth at October 03, 2022 01:25 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 03, 2022 01:24 PM (9k/S4)
ROFL
Posted by: CZ=FNG, Free Republic of Florida at October 03, 2022 01:26 PM (MkuC5)
Posted by: Marcus T
no Republican there to blame it on, so, no story
Posted by: DB at October 03, 2022 01:26 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 03, 2022 01:14 PM (9k/S4)
Back in the day I had a friend who was a real fan, insisted I should give them a listen. I did. Soulless, droning garbage, but not necessarily any worse than lots of other bands. It's become a cliche, they now stand for any crappy band that annoying people you know like.
Posted by: BurtTC at October 03, 2022 01:26 PM (YV6PJ)
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at October 03, 2022 01:26 PM (Zz0t1)
Is that nickleback playing?
How would one know?
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at October 03, 2022 01:22 PM (yHsuS)
Phfffft. The checks cleared.
We got paid and laid. How's your band do?
Posted by: Nickelfuckin Nickelback at October 03, 2022 01:26 PM (FCbAQ)
****
They just hung a poster of a beach and a palm tree over the window on the oval office mockup they use. He doesn't know any better.
Posted by: Azathoth at October 03, 2022 01:26 PM (wb1YC)
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These people are monsters. Its time to expand the death penalty.
Posted by: SH (No more Roe) at October 03, 2022 01:27 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at October 03, 2022 01:27 PM (9k/S4)
Posted by: Marcus T at October 03, 2022 01:24 PM (TbpGr)
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Maybe they couldn't spare any combat correspondents to go there.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Semi-Fascist at October 03, 2022 01:27 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 03, 2022 01:27 PM (/EuRN)
Every disaster plan includes shelters that are built to withstand things like hurricanes better than a house on the beach. They don't go because they don't want to, not because there is no other option.
Posted by: Archimedes at October 03, 2022 01:22 PM (ayzS/)
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Yes, but would you trust government-run "shelters"? And a lot of the damage I've seen so far wasn't on a beach.
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 03, 2022 01:27 PM (iFTx/)
Posted by: andycanuck
No one told him about Ian I guess
Posted by: DB at October 03, 2022 01:28 PM (geLO8)
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2022 12:53 PM (CXr4y)
So, TL;DR version is this: we're boned.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at October 03, 2022 01:28 PM (9miN6)
Yeah, they're just a stand in for hundreds of bland, modestly talented, forgettable bands of the 90s and naughties
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2022 01:28 PM (Ivdso)
Sleep in your car if you have to, its better than drowning or being crushed by a collapsing home, I suspect.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at October 03, 2022 01:29 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Lola at October 03, 2022 01:31 PM (NIYa7)
Posted by: Elric Blade at October 03, 2022 01:32 PM (iFTx/)
As the days ticked by, the forecast track bent further and further to the east. As late as last Monday, people in Tampa were evacuating to the south--to the area around Naples and Ft. Myers--because Tampa was directly in the forecast track, and the storm was supposed to bypass that area. A lot of those people got back in their cars and drove back home when the forecast changed.
Posted by: Cybernetic at October 03, 2022 01:33 PM (xawZJ)
Posted by: Tofer732 at October 03, 2022 01:33 PM (fatpD)
Posted by: Darrell Harris
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As Jerry Pournelle, (RIP) said, Despair is a sin. So each of us do what we can do and there are bright spots in the clouds here and there--for example the Dobbs decision.
Want some hope, bad times usually cause a winnowing of governing stupidity if a collapse does not happen. Nations can and have reformed and lasted centuries longer even though their governing arrangements and institutions may change. So, till the soil well with your family, friends and acquaintances. Pray if so inclined for guidance and for societal redemption. It has happened before in some cases but not in others. But, the honor is in the fight not acquiescence.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2022 01:34 PM (CXr4y)
Let this just be another reminder that liberals are horrible and should be treated in kind.
Posted by: Rbastid at October 03, 2022 12:30 PM (it+io)
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I live in Michigan and our governor is Gretchen whitmer. There is no reason to vote for her, even really is she campaigning! All she says is "I'm for abortion" and she says it hundreds of ads a days. She even dem people don't like her, but she'll win.her ads say only"I protect abortion rights"
Posted by: Chillin the most at October 03, 2022 01:36 PM (dhXYW)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at October 03, 2022 01:37 PM (a1ycR)
The Reds long ago heavily penetrated the MSM.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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They are not really Reds but courtiers for the palace of Dems. Witness their obsession with material things for themselves and feeling cheated if they do not get them. Essentially, the media are the priests of the Democrat state religion while universities are their monasteries.
Posted by: whig at October 03, 2022 01:37 PM (CXr4y)
I'm in a blue state with lots of people who still vote R. I am registered Democrat. I have never wished for death of destruction after a hurricane in the South and never have even when I voted D.. I also know some old time "liberals" who don't wish harm on R states. Maybe the phrase should be "extreme leftists."
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Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at October 03, 2022 02:15 PM (lf83v)
Posted by: SMOD at October 03, 2022 02:32 PM (RHGPo)
The one thing we know is than any disaster will always be blamed on the nearest Republican.
Posted by: WarEagle82 at October 03, 2022 02:34 PM (RIfux)
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Posted by: www.Profit97.Com at October 03, 2022 02:49 PM (xNK28)
As the days ticked by, the forecast track bent further and further to the east. As late as last Monday, people in Tampa were evacuating to the south--to the area around Naples and Ft. Myers--because Tampa was directly in the forecast track, and the storm was supposed to bypass that area. A lot of those people got back in their cars and drove back home when the forecast changed.
Posted by: Cybernetic
Sad but true, NHC Advisory 2 for Tropical Depression Nine had it turning into a major hurricane and going right where it went. This was seven days out when it was still a depression. So no formal warnings.
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