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Thread before the Gardening Thread, October 1

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Hurricanes and Energy

Hope everyone made it through the hurricane okay. What a HUGE storm. And it's not over yet. Please check in if you are in the storm's path and you have the means to communicate with us.

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My niece's husband evacuated his wife and baby and several vehicles before a relatively recent hurricane a little further up the east coast from Florida. Not as big as this one. Before returning home, he bought chain saws and tools to share with friends and a generator. He and a buddy took a truck and small trailer, tools, generator and fuel to a hard hit area to help with recovery.

Could he have done this with an electric vehicle, or did he need another source of energy in addition to electricity?

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What to do if you're without power for days

Power outages bring with them a slew of questions: How can I charge my phone? Can I save the food in my refrigerator? How can I make my home's inside temperature more comfortable?

If the power goes out, turn off and unplug all unnecessary electrical equipment, including sensitive electronics and turn off and disconnect any appliances (like stoves), equipment or electronics you were using. When power comes back on, surges or spikes can damage equipment. But leave at least one light turned on so you'll know when the power comes back on.

Lots of ideas at the link. Not vouching for all of them. Got other suggestions?

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Is it safe to drive a car that has been submerged in floodwater?

What to do if your car is submerged in floodwater.

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Okay. What about after a flood? Beware of flooded cars finding their way onto the market far from the hurricane zone.

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Maybe not this one.

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I had a car once that had floodwater reach into the undercarriage. That was bad enough. Had to leave it parked for a while and get some help. It recovered, though.

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Electric vehicles apparently do not pose extra risks in floods.

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So, does that mean lithium batteries are "THE ANSWER"?

Deaths from individual vehicle batteries, more big fires, etc. documented in the thread.

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Rep. Massie tears apart Mayor Pete's argument that electric vehicles would save Americans money. Fun to watch.

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Electric Mania

"Green" and "sustainable" is poisoning the earth.

By 2030, the United States is expected to see as much as one million total tons of solar panel waste. By 2050, the United States is expected to have the second largest number of end-of-life panels in the world, with as many as an estimated 10 million total tons of panels. What is going to happen to all that waste, much of it toxic?

Wind turbines typically contain more than 8,000 different components. One such component are magnets made from neodymium and dysprosium; rare earth minerals mined almost exclusively in China. Extracting REs is an energy intensive and heavily polluting process, which makes a mockery of "clean energy" all by itself.

In 2020 it was estimated that a 11- to 26-fold expansion of RE supply is needed for meeting global wind-power targets. Mining one ton of rare earth minerals produces about one ton of radioactive waste, according to the Institute for the Analysis of Global Security. According to the Chinese Society for Rare Earths, "one ton of calcined rare earth ore generates 9,600 to 12,000 cubic meters (339,021 to 423,776 cubic feet) of waste gas containing dust concentrate, hydrofluoric acid, sulfur dioxide, and sulfuric acid, [and] approximately 75 cubic meters (2,649 cubic feet) of acidic wastewater."

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Kamala Harris sows division among hurricane victims

The Redheaded libertarian brings the fire:

It's incredible to me that Kamala Harris went on national television and said federal aid will be given out racially when some Floridians of all backgrounds have just lost everything

It's beyond adding insult to injury. She used her status & flexed her power to revictimize them.

Federal aid is NOT being given out "equitably". That was another lie out of this establishment who dangles money in front of voter blocs like heroin.

Others continue in the thread.

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Weekend Stuff

So, do you have something something you've accomplished recently you could tell us about?

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Music

Note to Buck Throckmorton: An upright bass is often called a double bass. Here's some double bass. And trombone. It has to be good. Right?

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Hope you have something nice, or meaningful, planned for this weekend. If you are in the hurricane zone, stay safe.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs


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Last week's thread, Thread before the Gardening Thread, September 24

Comments are closed so you won't ban yourself by trying to comment on a week-old thread. But don't try it anyway.

Posted by: K.T. at 11:01 AM




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1 Mornin'

Posted by: Hawkpilot at October 01, 2022 11:04 AM (XlEmZ)

2 I'll go get 'em...

Posted by: Hawkpilot at October 01, 2022 11:04 AM (XlEmZ)

3 Darn it! Stopped to read the content again.

Posted by: Mister Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 01, 2022 11:04 AM (bVYXr)

4 Nooded.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at October 01, 2022 11:05 AM (XlEmZ)

5 Wichita Lineman

https://youtu.be/Q8P_xTBpAcY

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 01, 2022 11:06 AM (eGTCV)

6 Getting rained on by what's left of Ian, here 30 miles east of Knoxville. Smokies are looking extra smoky.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at October 01, 2022 11:07 AM (XlEmZ)

7 A guy I worked with a long time ago had his car flooded above the floorboards. A few days later he had toadstools growing in the carpet.

Posted by: Oddbob at October 01, 2022 11:09 AM (Vj0XG)

8 Hope you have something nice, or meaningful, planned for this weekend.
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Nope, can't say that I do.

Hubby is at work, so just another day of cooking and canning.

Posted by: SMH at October 01, 2022 11:10 AM (VmzRz)

9 I just pushed down the French Press plunger only to realize I didn't put any grounds in. Then I went to the kitchen and found out I hadn't ground the beans.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 01, 2022 11:10 AM (eGTCV)

10 It's really comforting to hear VP Trailer Hitch out there babbling about how the feds are going to help selected Americans in this time of crisis.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 01, 2022 11:10 AM (Qzn2/)

11 Mr. McBeevee!

--Opie

Posted by: m at October 01, 2022 11:12 AM (8rTNG)

12 You're welcome, kallisto. Pure luck in seeing Peter Sweden's tweet this a.m.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 01, 2022 11:12 AM (yikp0)

13 Got me thinking about starting the portable generator and running it a bit with a load to make sure it's up to snuff for the coming winter.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 01, 2022 11:12 AM (BFigT)

14 Back in the Swing Era, upright bass players were known as "dog box slappers".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 01, 2022 11:12 AM (VMBGb)

15 On the plus side, I have a ginger kitteh sitting beside me, so there's that.

Posted by: SMH at October 01, 2022 11:13 AM (VmzRz)

16 When Hurricane Sandy hit the Northeast, the Air Force literally flew linemen and line trucks in from the West Coast to help restore power.

Why do I think that the Biden Administration isn't going to do that for Florida?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 01, 2022 11:13 AM (I2/tG)

17 hiya

Posted by: JT at October 01, 2022 11:14 AM (T4tVD)

18 Why is it called a double bass ?

Posted by: JT at October 01, 2022 11:15 AM (T4tVD)

19 There have been fatal battery-fires from electric bicycles, or whatever they're called, too.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 01, 2022 11:15 AM (yikp0)

20 Good late morning everyone.

All my Floridian buddies had very little, if any damage from the storm. Some branches down and a few shingles that have flown the coop but that's it. Thank Goodness.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 01, 2022 11:16 AM (LsEU/)

21 "Tell me something you are proud of that you've achieved recently."

I sucessfully talked Mrs fd off the ledge.

Posted by: fd, problem solver at October 01, 2022 11:16 AM (Sf9YQ)

22 IMHO Morgan James is very attractive with an amazing voice.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 01, 2022 11:16 AM (eGTCV)

23 Even Fidelito's Canada is dropping jab mandates:

https://tinyurl.com/yv85c96b

Posted by: kallisto at October 01, 2022 11:16 AM (dCxaZ)

24 On the plus side, I have a ginger kitteh sitting beside me, so there's that.
Posted by: SMH at October 01, 2022 11:13 AM (VmzRz)

My little barn kitten, who got rehomed last week, has settled in nicely, and is very affectionate to his new servant.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 01, 2022 11:16 AM (VMBGb)

25 PETA calls for sex strike against men

“According to the cold logic of the radical animal rights activists, anyone who orders a bratwurst in the stadium, likes to grill their steak in summer or doesn’t want to do without their schnitzel is no longer worthy of reproduction,” the newspaper said of the “crazy suggestion”.

https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=131399

Posted by: SMH at October 01, 2022 11:16 AM (VmzRz)

26 Vic -

If you're ok, let us know.

Nod once for yes.

Posted by: JT at October 01, 2022 11:17 AM (T4tVD)

27 23 Even Fidelito's Canada is dropping jab mandates:

https://tinyurl.com/yv85c96b
Posted by: kallisto at October 01, 2022 11:16 AM (dCxaZ)

wow

Posted by: m at October 01, 2022 11:17 AM (8rTNG)

28 Didja see this from The Week In Pictures?

https://bit.ly/3UMmEwm

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at October 01, 2022 11:17 AM (FVME7)

29 Joe Biden briefly addressed the Nordstream pipeline ruptures yesterday.

Biden called it a 'deliberate act of sabotage' and said now 'the Russians are pumping out disinformation and lies.'

You'll note that that is not actually a denial that we did the pipeline sabotage.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 01, 2022 11:17 AM (I2/tG)

30 When Matthew Henry was a little baby boy, sitting on the his papa's knee
Well he picked up some paper and little piece of pen
Said this paper's gonna be commentary, lord, lord
Paper's gonna be commentary

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at October 01, 2022 11:18 AM (FVME7)

31 Heh, I should have only listened to the song. Having skinny gals sing those lyrics made it a bit off to me.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 01, 2022 11:18 AM (3cGpq)

32 Even Fidelito's Canada is dropping jab mandates:

https://tinyurl.com/yv85c96b
Posted by: kallisto at October 01, 2022 11:16 AM (dCxaZ)

wow
Posted by: m at October 01, 2022 11:17 AM (8rTNG)

The decision was made several weeks ago. They could have dropped the restrictions right then and there, but they had to be dicks about it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 01, 2022 11:19 AM (VMBGb)

33 If you tried to drive an electric car water up past the floorboards would it be like throwing a toaster into a bathtub.?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 01, 2022 11:19 AM (eGTCV)

34 Love those White Power Signals at the end of the that awesome song.

Posted by: Shaftoe at October 01, 2022 11:20 AM (gS/r9)

35 After two days without power we pack up our meat in ice chests and run away.

Posted by: Javems at October 01, 2022 11:20 AM (AmoqO)

36 I successfully talked Mrs fd off the ledge.
Posted by: fd

Always a good thing. Congrats.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 01, 2022 11:21 AM (LsEU/)

37 Portland May Be About To Enter The Big Leagues!

WNBA Basketball Commissioner Says She Is “Actively Considering” Portland for a WNBA Franchise

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 01, 2022 11:21 AM (I2/tG)

38 The conservative case for only giving black people govt aid. This week at National Review.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 01, 2022 11:21 AM (3vQN0)

39 JT at October 01, 2022 11:15 AM

Double bass:

Maybe because it's two octaves lower that a violin?

Posted by: KT at October 01, 2022 11:21 AM (rrtZS)

40 Names for the team considered

The Portland Antifas

The Portland Destroyers

The Portland Looters

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 01, 2022 11:22 AM (3vQN0)

41 yes it was PeterSweden7 reporting about the disabled EV charging posts:

https://tinyurl.com/3eycwyed

Posted by: kallisto at October 01, 2022 11:22 AM (dCxaZ)

42 Why is it called a double bass ?
Posted by: JT

And why isn't Lizzo called Double Lizzo?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at October 01, 2022 11:22 AM (FVME7)

43 WNBA Basketball Commissioner Says She Is “Actively Considering” Portland for a WNBA Franchise
Posted by: The ARC of History!

Now all they need to do is rent a smallish high school gym that has an opening.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 01, 2022 11:22 AM (LsEU/)

44 If you are already drawing government assistance for anything from food to utility assistance to free housing, can you really "lose" anything?

The government stepping in to offer food, housing and utilities isn't really doing anything they weren't already doing.

For many people, they grow up and live in what is essentially a "state of emergency" for their entire lives and for their children's lives and for many, many generations to come.

Is like a permanent state of post-hurricane assistance for certain communities of people.

Perpetual hurricane.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 01, 2022 11:23 AM (XndHZ)

45 Joe Biden briefly addressed the Nordstream pipeline ruptures yesterday.

Biden called it a 'deliberate act of sabotage' and said now 'the Russians are pumping out disinformation and lies.'

You'll note that that is not actually a denial that we did the pipeline sabotage.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 01, 2022 11:17 AM (I2/tG)

So the Russians distributing the video of him, Joe Biden, making explicit threats against Nordstream are "disinformation". Yeah, riiight.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 01, 2022 11:23 AM (VMBGb)

46 I read Castreau is also allowing the unvaxxed to enter his kingdom too? Is that finalized.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 01, 2022 11:23 AM (3vQN0)

47 The Portland Bearded ladies.

Posted by: Shaftoe at October 01, 2022 11:23 AM (gS/r9)

48 Portland May Be About To Enter The Big Leagues!

I read that as "Poland"

Posted by: JT at October 01, 2022 11:23 AM (T4tVD)

49 The Portland Screeching Karens.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at October 01, 2022 11:24 AM (FVME7)

50 Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at October 01, 2022 11:12 AM (yikp0)

He's a good follow. I may subscribe to his Stack, he deserves the $$ support.

Posted by: kallisto at October 01, 2022 11:24 AM (dCxaZ)

51 Good to hear, AOP. : )

Posted by: SMH at October 01, 2022 11:24 AM (VmzRz)

52 Canning seems meaningful enough SMH. The biggest thing here will be going to the party for the neighbors' 7 year old boy this evening. So I should get out of the chair and at least find a card. Probably have to resort to cash for a present.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 01, 2022 11:24 AM (3cGpq)

53 Oh my god wow we are finally getting a wnba team!!!!
- absolutely nobody, ever

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 01, 2022 11:24 AM (3vQN0)

54 And why isn't Lizzo called Double Lizzo?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at October 01, 2022 11:22 AM (FVME7)

Triple Lizzo is already taken?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 01, 2022 11:25 AM (VMBGb)

55 Portland Fighting Quadruple Vaxxers

Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 01, 2022 11:25 AM (3vQN0)

56 "Always a good thing. Congrats"

She had this craft show that she has been prepping for for months and was convinced it would be a disaster because of the storm and no one would show up. I told her she still needed to give it a shot anyway, so we are here, its a beautiful day, and there are lots of people.

Posted by: fd, problem solver at October 01, 2022 11:25 AM (Sf9YQ)

57 Hurricanes are yet just another example of white oppression. Forced against their will to travel from Western Africa across the Atlantic Ocean, they then toil to death performing menial chores in the United States, such as watering the grass, picking up garbage, and yard work.

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at October 01, 2022 11:26 AM (DsA2n)

58 I read that as "Poland"
Posted by: JT

Did someone say 'Polka'!!??

The Shmenges - https://youtu.be/lmSC52Npuq0

Posted by: Tonypete at October 01, 2022 11:26 AM (LsEU/)

59 Looks like we'll get some sun this afternoon. Bye Ian, good riddance.

Posted by: BignJames at October 01, 2022 11:27 AM (AwYPR)

60 It's really comforting to hear VP Trailer Hitch out there babbling about how the feds are going to help selected Americans in this time of crisis.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 01, 2022 11:10 AM (Qzn2/)

We probably should thank here for the statement and how she illuminated the fundamental issue.
In a way we have a point of congruence, VP Harris and we all agree that Equity is a form of discrimination.
It is just that she thinks it is a moral act.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 01, 2022 11:27 AM (xhaym)

61 The Portland Strap-Ons

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 01, 2022 11:27 AM (Qzn2/)

62 She had this craft show that she has been prepping for for months and was convinced it would be a disaster because of the storm and no one would show up. I told her she still needed to give it a shot anyway, so we are here, its a beautiful day, and there are lots of people.
Posted by: fd

You're a good man (even though you hang out here). Nothing better than your spouse gently saying 'It'll be okay.'

Posted by: Tonypete at October 01, 2022 11:28 AM (LsEU/)

63 PETA calls for sex strike against men

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Also from The Week In Pictures.

https://bit.ly/3rsejjS

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at October 01, 2022 11:28 AM (FVME7)

64 We got rain yesterday evening, it is totally unrelated to Ian here in Colorado. It was thundering before it started raining and I was hoping an unlikely strike might hit the horse 'pasture' area which could really use a good fire for weed control. Of course no luck there.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 01, 2022 11:29 AM (3cGpq)

65 So the Russians distributing the video of him, Joe Biden, making explicit threats against Nordstream are "disinformation". Yeah, riiight.

The Daily Mail claimed that Biden denied bombing the pipelines, but that's not what Biden actually said.

Here's an idea!

Have Defense Secretary Austin stand in front of the TV cameras, and state: "We did not sabotage the Nordstream pipelines."

Simple!

The more that denials are only made by an anonymous "senior defense official", and the more Biden engages in Clintonesque word parsing, the more certain it seems that we did the sabotage.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 01, 2022 11:29 AM (I2/tG)

66 10 VP Trailer Hitch
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at October 01, 2022 11:10 AM (Qzn2/)

LOL

Posted by: m at October 01, 2022 11:29 AM (8rTNG)

67 I read Castreau is also allowing the unvaxxed to enter his kingdom too? Is that finalized.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at October 01, 2022 11:23 AM (3vQN0)

Yep. Effective today. And no more mandatory use of the stupid Arrivecan phone app.

And, talking to several friends who have crossed the land border in recent weeks, U.S. customs agents are either not asking about vaccine status, or not demanding proof of a "yes" reply, so I ought to be able to easily cross the border when I head south in November or December.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 01, 2022 11:29 AM (VMBGb)

68 31 Heh, I should have only listened to the song. Having skinny gals sing those lyrics made it a bit off to me.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 01, 2022 11:18 AM (3cGpq

One of the cobblogers posted a video of a cute Asian girl singing Blurred Lines. Had kind of a 1930's vibe to it. Haven't been able to find it again on the internet.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 01, 2022 11:29 AM (BdMk6)

69 I sucessfully talked Mrs fd off the ledge.
Posted by: fd, problem solver at October 01, 2022 11:16 AM (Sf9YQ)

I spent a lot of time doing that with strangers. It is emotionally draining, and there are times when "have fun with that" seems like a valid response.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 01, 2022 11:30 AM (xhaym)

70 Portland Fighting Quadruple Vaxxers

Portland does have the only financially successful (sorta) professional women's soccer team in the country, so you might actually get more than a 1,000 people in Portland for a WNBA game (as long as the tickets are cheap enough).

Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 01, 2022 11:32 AM (I2/tG)

71 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 01, 2022 11:29 AM (VMBGb)

So no more restrictions on the truckers.

And all that Freedom Convoy drama, the jailings, the frozen bank accounts, the public unpersoning by Castro's kid...was for nothing.

Posted by: kallisto at October 01, 2022 11:32 AM (dCxaZ)

72 Yeah, I wouldn't go up there unless I had a bucket truck.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 01, 2022 11:33 AM (z+OQR)

73 Russia seems to be going through their own period of unrest. The Ukrainian gambit does not appear to be popular with the general population and Putin's hold on power might be diminishing too. If the war continues to go poorly for them and there's no peaceful resolution by winter I wonder how far Putin's willing to go. Our own government doesn't seem to grasp the seriousness of the situation.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 01, 2022 11:34 AM (BFigT)

74 Pug, more coming your way. It's getting ready to storm here. I'm hoping to lose a tree.

Posted by: Infidel at October 01, 2022 11:34 AM (Ur3ox)

75 A Ron Klain tweet that has aged liked fine milk.

https://bit.ly/3Eamlpk

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at October 01, 2022 11:35 AM (FVME7)

76 So I wonder if truckers who had to limit their loads if they refused to comply with getting a clot shot are going back to work behind the wheel. Was too long a period for most to have been able to just be idle but perhaps some of the replacement jobs are lower paying so they will return to driving now.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 01, 2022 11:35 AM (3cGpq)

77 PETA calls for sex strike against men


Okay but only until it's red. Not 'til it hurts.



Wait. What?

Posted by: Tonypete at October 01, 2022 11:35 AM (LsEU/)

78 Irish Bob has amnesia.

Kyle Martinsen@KyleMartinsen_
Tonight, Beto O’Rourke said he “of course” doesn't support 'Defunding the Police.'
In 2020, O'Rourke enthusiastically called for defunding and "completely dismantling” police departments.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at October 01, 2022 11:37 AM (FVME7)

79 65 Have Defense Secretary Austin stand in front of the TV cameras, and state: "We did not sabotage the Nordstream pipelines."
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 01, 2022 11:29 AM (I2/tG)

And, he should be wearing his Coof Vader helmet when he does it.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at October 01, 2022 11:37 AM (DTX3h)

80 And all that Freedom Convoy drama, the jailings, the frozen bank accounts, the public unpersoning by Castro's kid...was for nothing.
Posted by: kallisto at October 01, 2022 11:32 AM (dCxaZ)

Oh, good heavens no. It was essential to set the screws to the Canadians and prove they had no rights, and no freedoms other than what the government allowed them. Canada is a continent spanning minimum security prison, and the only liberty is in the black market.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 01, 2022 11:37 AM (xhaym)

81 Drove a '78 CJ5. When it filled with water i just pulled the drain plugs in the floor boards.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at October 01, 2022 11:39 AM (3Or4S)

82 I'm all about that bass, no treble.

Nice, KT.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 01, 2022 11:39 AM (AiZBA)

83 237 This headline amused me

Doctor Who Recommended COVID Shots to Everyone Writes Study Showing COVID Jabs Have No Benefit


If you can't trust a Time Lord...

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at October 01, 2022 11:37 AM (yQpMk)

Posted by: G'rump928(c) repeats himself at October 01, 2022 11:41 AM (yQpMk)

84 My mood is sour and I just want to fight, sorry about that.

Back later.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 01, 2022 11:41 AM (xhaym)

85 I remember when pickup trucks didn't have carpeting.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 01, 2022 11:41 AM (BdMk6)

86 The corporation of whom I am in the employ, sent out a call to arms for employees to donate to the 'non-profit' operated and administrated by the corporation for relief of co-workers in Florida.

The non-profit is entitled "(Corporation name) Cares".

I asked in the comments if the corporation would be matching employee donations and issuing statements of giving for tax purposes.

No response 36 hours later. So I then asked if it could be renamed "Hourly Employees of (Corporation Name) Cares" so as to more accurately represent the nature of the giving, and so that the public wouldn't misunderstand the source of the giving should the corporation use this giving in a statement of what good work they do in the community, while simultaneously claiming a corporate tax credit.

Whoa! Then I got plenty of responses. Something tells me I'll be looking for work again soon.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 01, 2022 11:43 AM (XndHZ)

87 Names for the team considered

The Portland Botanists

Posted by: Methos at October 01, 2022 11:44 AM (kOpft)

88 The stupid, revolting racism of these vapid cretins (like Harris) never gets old, or acceptable. But it seems just fine with what passes for "Americans" these days.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 01, 2022 11:45 AM (OTzUX)

89 One my worst and best Workers Comp case was a lineman. Unfortunately for him he came in contact with a high voltage line and it blew both his arms which were subsequently amputated. It was my best case because this guy didn't feel sorry for himself and went back to work for the company within 6 months with his myoelectric prosthetic arms . He subsequently became an expert in prosthetic repair and made that a new career.

I've had people hurt their back picking up a pencil who claimed they were too injured to ever go back to work.

Posted by: polynikes at October 01, 2022 11:46 AM (lKM6R)

90 Thinking about it, I guess a double bass is probably 2 octaves lower than a viola, an octave lower than a cello. Three octaves lower than a violin. That would make more sense.

Posted by: KT at October 01, 2022 11:47 AM (rrtZS)

91 I remember when pickup trucks didn't have carpeting.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 01, 2022 11:41 AM (BdMk6)

...and wooden beds.

Posted by: BignJames at October 01, 2022 11:48 AM (AwYPR)

92 I'm all about that bass, no trout.

Posted by: Redneck at October 01, 2022 11:48 AM (oTZbj)

93 Portland Tailbla_ers.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 01, 2022 11:48 AM (VMBGb)

94 "Portland Women's National Basketball Team"

Posted by: m at October 01, 2022 11:49 AM (8rTNG)

95 I've had people hurt their back picking up a pencil who claimed they were too injured to ever go back to work.
Posted by: polynikes

Oh, so you've met my brother in law? My Dad use to joke BIL had to throw himself down the stairs eight times before anyone saw him 'fall'.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 01, 2022 11:49 AM (LsEU/)

96 Vermont High School Girls Banned From Their Own Locker Room for Voicing Concerns About Trans Athlete

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Trannies first.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at October 01, 2022 11:49 AM (FVME7)

97 Basses come in a variety of sizes.
The full size bass in sometimes called the double bass.
The bass in the video is a 3/4 size bass which is the standard in jazz and pop groups.
Rarely you can find 5/8 size and even 1/2 size basses.
Basses like these (and all violins) are not just musical instruments but examples of the finest carpentry.

Posted by: no one of importance at October 01, 2022 11:50 AM (jTmQV)

98 Grounding and procedure are very important when you're a lineman. It helps to have $2MM worth of new equipment.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 01, 2022 11:50 AM (z+OQR)

99 For the Nth time, quibbling about the (obvious) economic and even environmental infeasibility of these idiotic "alternative" energy schemes is to simply agree to a massive, generations-long destruction of freedom, prosperity, and rationality in society.

If the current idiotic totalitarian jihad were to force everyone to wear their underwear on the outside (hat tip Woody Allen's "Bananas"), would the response be to show how difficult and costly this might be?

No. It would be instantly challenged as to "why?". Stipulating the ridiculous outlandish hypothesis of meaningful/controllable "climate change" caused by CO2 is the easy, and disastrous, choice. And I see little else from the sane side any more.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 01, 2022 11:50 AM (OTzUX)

100 100

Posted by: m at October 01, 2022 11:51 AM (8rTNG)

101 In case no one has noted it, that's Telly Savalas' daughter in the video.

Posted by: davidt at October 01, 2022 11:52 AM (oTZbj)

102 The bass is tuned in 4ths, unlike all the other violin family which is tuned in 5ths.
Basses are written one octave higher, so they do transpose.
The "double" means that the note being played sounds another octave lower.

Posted by: no one of importance at October 01, 2022 11:52 AM (jTmQV)

103 Once a saint, always a saint.

Tim Graham: Saint Anita Hill Fights “Gender Violence”

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at October 01, 2022 11:53 AM (FVME7)

104 "For the Nth time, quibbling about the (obvious) economic and even environmental infeasibility of these idiotic "alternative" energy schemes is to simply agree to a massive, generations-long destruction of freedom, prosperity, and rationality in society."

No, I disagree. Pointing out the stupidity, and absolute perversity of these alternate energy schemes does call into question the entire premise upon which they are based.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 01, 2022 11:55 AM (VMBGb)

105 Who put the bang in the banga banga Nordstream?
Who put boom in the booma booma pipeline?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at October 01, 2022 11:56 AM (FVME7)

106 no one of importance at October 01, 2022 11:52 AM

Thanks for the double bass explanation.

Posted by: KT at October 01, 2022 11:56 AM (rrtZS)

107 "It was essential to set the screws to the Canadians and prove they had no rights, and no freedoms other than what the government allowed them." Posted by: Kindltot

right, and here too .. introduction of health card, and/or invisible health tattoo, to identify the "vaxxed" from those that are resisting BigPharma. Banks and others are already working on their social credit scoring system. It will be denied by BigGov even as they implement it.

And the real damage from the multiple jabs is not revealed yet. And the real damage (especially to small business) is only now being recognized. It certainly all seems quite planned, along with the new Stasi DOJ/FBI.

IF "we" take at least the House, maybe there is a glimmer of hope, with investigations already being prepared (allegedly).

Posted by: illiniwek at October 01, 2022 11:57 AM (Cus5s)

108 I always comment on linemen. My Uncle was one, CEI. out of Cleveland. Worked the lakeshore out of the Painesville office. I remember a picture of him taken by one of the crew (with a Polaroid) where he looked like the ice monster of the Himalayas after climbing down. Alberta Clippers blowing across Lake Erie suck.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 01, 2022 11:57 AM (lz5hY)

109 Oh, so you've met my brother in law? My Dad use to joke BIL had to throw himself down the stairs eight times before anyone saw him 'fall'.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 01, 2022 11:49 AM (LsEU/)

dad is a funny guy

Posted by: kallisto at October 01, 2022 11:57 AM (dCxaZ)

110 Yup. An upright bass ( or double bass) is usually a signifier that good music will be played, whatever the genre. And that version of "All About The Bass" didn't disappoint. That was exceptional! Thanks!

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at October 01, 2022 11:58 AM (d9Cw3)

111 Whoa! Then I got plenty of responses. Something tells me I'll be looking for work again soon.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at October 01, 2022 11:43 AM (XndHZ)

Good for you BC. I hate this about corporations. Using employee time and money to make themselves look better. Oh, the employee may get a fruit snack or some trivial trinket as a thank you but they are never mentioned in the PR announcement.

Also, name for Portland WNBA team, the Dykes

Posted by: Beartooth at October 01, 2022 11:58 AM (3p4cr)

112 And the real damage (especially to small business) is only now being recognized.

so many empty storefronts, closed restaurants in these parts.

though I must admit, the empty storefronts in the bougie shopping center are getting new tenants

Posted by: kallisto at October 01, 2022 11:59 AM (dCxaZ)

113 G'morning, Horde.

I've been trying to figure out why it's been so difficult to climb back on the Trump bandwagon. This morning it hit me.

Everything bad that has happened to Trump is the result of the wrong people chosen for his administration. While I think he has wised up, in the interim the left has made it unthinkable for anyone competent to join for a second term. The problem won't be bad choices. It will be NO choices.

If by some miracle he were elected I think the outcome would be even worse than the first time.

Posted by: creeper at October 01, 2022 12:00 PM (cTCuP)

114 Also, name for Portland WNBA team, the Dykes
Posted by: Beartooth

The Dribbling Dykes.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at October 01, 2022 12:00 PM (FVME7)

115 I forget, I think the estimate of worker's comp fraud in CA is in the $billions. Just one state. It was so bad the state actually put up billboards with a hotline for tipsters to call about it. One friend who was legit injured has told me endless horror stories of the fraud, from every single component of the process, except perhaps the state employees (that, he couldn't verify).

The obvious fakesters. The doctors and therapists. The providers of stuff. Just open, actively encouraging maximum draw-down of "benefits" without regard to need or whether it made sense.

In a chef's kiss addendum, a few years later these billboards were replaced by some - usually in Spanish - telling workers to report their employers if they *didn't* do their part to provide worker's comp. So, from policing fraud to ..... making sure illegals got full protection and benefits.

Yeah yeah I don't want any worker legal or not to be injured or without help, but the transition here is just, perfect.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 01, 2022 12:00 PM (OTzUX)

116 Hey horde. I'm doing fine. I was without power for about 34 hours, comms were intermittent at best. Electricity came back about mid day yesterday, phone and internet followed a few hours later. Need to pick up some debris off my lawn and clean out my refrigerator but overall it's not much more than an inconvenience for me. The folks in SW Florida got hammered bad. Weather is beautiful right now though. 79, sunny and clear.

Posted by: Insomniac, safe in the eye of the tornado at October 01, 2022 12:01 PM (II3Gr)

117 Well, time for to get on with my day.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 01, 2022 12:02 PM (VMBGb)

118 no one of importance at October 01, 2022 11:52 AM

I didn't know that the bass was tuned in 4ths instead of 5ths. My Mom learned to play the bass after playing the cello for many years.

How are banjos tuned? Some fiddle tunes require cross-tuning to banjo tuning.

Posted by: KT at October 01, 2022 12:02 PM (rrtZS)

119 Most of the old lineman I know who were gaffing up and down those poles on a regular basis can barely walk. Their knees are shot.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 01, 2022 12:02 PM (z+OQR)

120 Posted by: Insomniac, safe in the eye of the tornado at October 01, 2022 12:01 PM (II3Gr)

Is this really you?? Say something depressing so we can be sure!!

Posted by: kallisto at October 01, 2022 12:03 PM (dCxaZ)

121 Insom, read Annie's prayer thread.

Posted by: creeper at October 01, 2022 12:03 PM (cTCuP)

122 Hey horde. I'm doing fine.

Glad to hear it.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 01, 2022 12:03 PM (Xrfse)

123 @116

Good to hear from you and that you're doing fine.

My parents in Central Florida got their power back after about 14 hours though my sister who lives a bit north of them won't expect her power to come back until some time tomorrow.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at October 01, 2022 12:03 PM (DTX3h)

124 Some one should let Kameltoe Harris know that there is not a very large "community of color" in Naples or Fort Myers.

Unless she is talking about old bald white guys with sunburned tans and boats.

But you go girl with your rayciss filled hate and venom.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 01, 2022 12:03 PM (R/m4+)

125 I've been trying to figure out why it's been so difficult to climb back on the Trump bandwagon. This morning it hit me.

Is it the arthritis kicking up again?

Posted by: kallisto at October 01, 2022 12:04 PM (dCxaZ)

126
How are banjos tuned? Some fiddle tunes require cross-tuning to banjo tuning.
Posted by: KT at October 01, 2022 12:02 PM (rrtZS)

I want to say open G but I'm not sure.

Posted by: Insomniac, safe in the eye of the tornado at October 01, 2022 12:04 PM (II3Gr)

127 105 Who put the bang in the banga banga Nordstream?
Who put the boom in the booma booma pipeline?
Who was that man, I'd like to shake his hand,
Because we're having good ol' world war III.


Don Retardo de Scranton Y Wilmington

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 01, 2022 12:04 PM (lz5hY)

128 It took me 10 years of playing the upright bass (3/4 size) before I even had enough confidence to so much as change the strings, much less a bridge or sound post adjustment.
And then, talk about the maths. Everything on the violin is all about the maths. Harmonics at the half length, the quarter length, the thirds. The size of the sound box, the f holes. Yep, it's a big rabbit hole you can dive in.

Posted by: no one of importance at October 01, 2022 12:05 PM (jTmQV)

129 110 Yup. An upright bass ( or double bass) is usually a signifier that good music will be played, whatever the genre. And that version of "All About The Bass" didn't disappoint. That was exceptional! Thanks!
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at October 01, 2022 11:58 AM (d9Cw3)

I had been thinking, "Buck would know!"

Posted by: m at October 01, 2022 12:05 PM (8rTNG)

130 There are so many ways Nordstream could have gone wrong it doesn't help that Uncle Joe has a habit of telegraphing The Biden Group's underhanded plans.

However, his mouth also provided an alternate group perfect cover for their plans.

And these thoughts discount brittle or poor quality metal, shoddy craftsmanship and lack of quality control.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 01, 2022 12:06 PM (iam1O)

131 I'M A VICTIM OF CIRCUMSTANCE

DON'T JUDGE

Posted by: kallisto at October 01, 2022 12:06 PM (dCxaZ)

132 "And the real damage (especially to small business) is only now being recognized."
so many empty storefronts, closed restaurants in these parts. though I must admit, the empty storefronts in the bougie shopping center are getting new tenants" Posted by: kallisto

(I meant to say, real damage from the shutdowns, which kept BigBox open, but you guys caught my drift)

There should have been a huge bounce back, but they kept adding restrictions till some were put out of business completely. I think it was all part of the plan, despite incompetence also being involved.

Hopefully the malls that get new tenants do well.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 01, 2022 12:07 PM (Cus5s)

133 Some bassists will adopt the cello tuning.
Probably because they were cellists first.

Posted by: no one of importance at October 01, 2022 12:07 PM (jTmQV)

134 Equity for kallisto
Equity for kallisto

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 01, 2022 12:08 PM (iam1O)

135 How are banjos tuned? Some fiddle tunes require cross-tuning to banjo tuning.
Posted by: KT

Wait. Banjos are tuned?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at October 01, 2022 12:09 PM (FVME7)

136 creeper, wrong, on all counts probably.

"Wrong people" was only one factor, probably not the largest, in Trump's hobbling by all sides. In fact these two factors overlap quite a bit - Trump didn't have a party that would help him get people confirmed that they, too, opposed.

Anyone offering any prospect of real, critical change will face exactly the same hate-storm, as will his/her nominees.

It's simply wishcasting to continue to pretend the situation isn't what it is. You have institutional collapse. You have at the very least half the population that is dumbed-down and propagandized and misinformed and hate-filled beyond redemption.

It's not impossible by any means that someone will be able to overcome all this and stem some of the bleeding. But Trump faces no obstacles peculiar to him.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 01, 2022 12:09 PM (OTzUX)

137 Is this really you?? Say something depressing so we can be sure!!
Posted by: kallisto at October 01, 2022 12:03 PM (dCxaZ)

Would you settle for something combative, such as "gargle my hairy ballsack"?

Posted by: Insomniac, safe in the eye of the tornado at October 01, 2022 12:09 PM (II3Gr)

138 Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 01, 2022 12:08 PM (iam1O)

and reparations too

Posted by: kallisto at October 01, 2022 12:09 PM (dCxaZ)

139 Would you settle for something combative, such as "gargle my hairy ballsack"?

Posted by: Insomniac, safe in the eye of the tornado at October 01, 2022 12:09 PM (II3Gr)

no that wouldn't work because some might consider that stimulating actually.

has to be depressing.

Posted by: kallisto at October 01, 2022 12:10 PM (dCxaZ)

140 My parents in Central Florida got their power back after about 14 hours though my sister who lives a bit north of them won't expect her power to come back until some time tomorrow.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at October 01, 2022 12:03 PM (DTX3h)

It's weird. Some areas within just a couple miles of me never lost power at all. Some areas still have no power. And there was a surprising amount of flooding in Central Florida as well.

Posted by: Insomniac, safe in the eye of the tornado at October 01, 2022 12:11 PM (II3Gr)

141 Hmmm, this video was posted 2 years ago, but I could not find it a few days ago.

Giorgia Meloni, in English talking about her philosophy:
https://tinyurl.com/2p97djhj

This may be unpopular/strange, but I actually prefer her speaking in her native Italian (or even the speech she gave in Spanish) with subtitles. She seems FAR more comfortable and is better able to infuse the speech with inflection to get her point across- even if you cannot understand the words. You can tell something is being sarcastic just by her tone of voice and the subtitles. Plus, she seems better able to get her dander up.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 01, 2022 12:11 PM (dNqv+)

142 The new congress may stop more new regulations.
The pushing back The Biden Group's current new regulations is wishful thinking.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 01, 2022 12:12 PM (iam1O)

143 85 I remember when pickup trucks didn't have carpeting.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at October 01, 2022 11:41 AM (BdMk6)

Lezzies hardest hit

Posted by: REDACTED at October 01, 2022 12:12 PM (us2H3)

144 Insom! Good to see a report from you. Glad you are okay. Kitteh Insom says "Hi!"

Posted by: Appycay at October 01, 2022 12:12 PM (ps+y/)

145 128 129 I took cello lessons in elementary school mostly because I thought Morey Amsterdam on the Dick Van Dyke Show was funny. Lost interest, and later when Mom and Dad were bucks up started with a Stella and got a Gibson SG for Christmas. Could only play by note, so the cello lessons taught me how to be a musician but never a rock star.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at October 01, 2022 12:12 PM (lz5hY)

146 I just pushed down the French Press plunger only to realize I didn't put any grounds in. Then I went to the kitchen and found out I hadn't ground the beans.
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 01, 2022 11:10 AM (eGTCV)


NLurker guy is going to have a long day I think.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 01, 2022 12:13 PM (anj39)

147 Have to say I watched the fully clothed Lizzo play a couple flutes at the Library of Congress, and she is quite talented. Unfortunately, that doesn't make you fabulously wealthy, so she dresses like a whore for her concerts. Sad!

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at October 01, 2022 12:13 PM (2NHgQ)

148
Since we're out in the country, I know we'll be the last people to have our power restored after a major event. We have three standalone generators. The big 8750 watt one is to be hooked up to a transfer switch so we can run the well and furnace or AC. The 2500 watt one will run at least one AC in the kennel. The 1250 watt one can run the refrigerator. The RV also has a 4000 watt generator and we can move in there if need be.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 01, 2022 12:13 PM (n7D7l)

149 It's not impossible by any means that someone will be able to overcome all this and stem some of the bleeding. But Trump faces no obstacles peculiar to him.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 01, 2022 12:09 PM (OTzUX)

Good analysis. One I agree with at least- which is what we all mean when we say 'That's a well reasoned argument!'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 01, 2022 12:14 PM (dNqv+)

150
Happy you're checking in, Insom.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 01, 2022 12:15 PM (n7D7l)

151
So many nice days in September, but it looks like October they'll be few. Next sunny day not until Thursday. My SAD will kick in any day now.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at October 01, 2022 12:15 PM (y3pKJ)

152 No matter how hard you work, no matter what you achieve, no matter how much you try to do the right thing, there's always something or someone waiting to crush it all to nothing, like a bully kicking over a sandcastle at the beach.

There, how's that?

Posted by: Insomniac, safe in the eye of the tornado at October 01, 2022 12:15 PM (II3Gr)

153 And you can still gargle my hairy ballsack.

Posted by: Insomniac, safe in the eye of the tornado at October 01, 2022 12:16 PM (II3Gr)

154 There, how's that?

Posted by: Insomniac, safe in the eye of the tornado at October 01, 2022 12:15 PM (II3Gr)

O.M.G.

He's Back!

where u been at??

Posted by: kallisto at October 01, 2022 12:17 PM (dCxaZ)

155 Most of the damage done by the vile vegetable's crew was done without any legislative changes. Ditto the benefits under Trump. Discretionary executive policies, or just public stances and body language.

Doesn't mean Congress can't make a difference. They can make an enormous difference, even if only "politicizing" (raising the profile, educating the public, and forcing players to position themselves and risk consequences) key issues.

Current GOP has shown zero interest in doing any of that. Limp, tired, even dumb criticism of the vandalism is what you get. Never addressing fundamentals. Platitudes and generalities, few specifics, and an olympian effort to avoid accountable commitments.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 01, 2022 12:17 PM (OTzUX)

156 121 Insom, read Annie's prayer thread.
Posted by: creeper at October 01, 2022 12:03 PM (cTCuP

Oh.
Oh shit.

Posted by: Insomniac, safe in the eye of the tornado at October 01, 2022 12:17 PM (II3Gr)

157 153 And you can still gargle my hairy ballsack.

Posted by: Insomniac, safe in the eye of the tornado at October 01, 2022 12:16 PM (II3Gr)

if that's an invitation, I decline

If it's a command, you can go EABOD with a hairy ballsack chaser

Posted by: kallisto at October 01, 2022 12:18 PM (dCxaZ)

158 Proof positive that is Insomniac. I'm glad Ian didn't wreak much destruction on you.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 01, 2022 12:18 PM (3cGpq)

159 >>>It's simply wishcasting to continue to pretend the situation isn't what it is. You have institutional collapse. You have at the very least half the population that is dumbed-down and propagandized and misinformed and hate-filled beyond redemption.
...
Posted by: rhomboid
------------------------------

America is not that dumb. YET.
Only 30% of the population is dumbed down, it's a solid 30 the DemoCommunists always have. There is a large group in the middle and a large group refered to as SHY voters.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 01, 2022 12:18 PM (iam1O)

160 146 I just pushed down the French Press plunger only to realize I didn't put any grounds in. Then I went to the kitchen and found out I hadn't ground the beans.
Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 01, 2022 11:10 AM (eGTCV)

please tell me that you pulled down your pants when you went to the water closet

Posted by: REDACTED at October 01, 2022 12:19 PM (us2H3)

161 Kash Patel at Epoch Times made note of how they (Trump Admin') fought to stop the Nord Stream pipeline, and were successful for a while. They felt it was important to stop Germany from making Russia rich via vast Russian energy resources.

I don't see the whole geopolitical deep thought there. Certainly we don't seem to be trying to stop China from using energy from US or anywhere, I guess since we "profit" from all the cheap China stuff ... but that seems short sighted. Putin/Russia seem like much less of a threat than China. But I don't do war games ... or peace games ... unrestricted warfare is apparently all the rage now.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 01, 2022 12:19 PM (Cus5s)

162
please tell me that you pulled down your pants when you went to the water closet
Posted by: REDACTED at October 01, 2022 12:19 PM (us2H3)

Well, it was 'a' closet...

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 01, 2022 12:20 PM (dNqv+)

163 It's simply wishcasting to continue to pretend the situation isn't what it is.
Posted by: rhomboid at October 01, 2022 12:09 PM (OTzUX)

Pretending the situation isn't what it is? You must be kidding. I'm an 'Ette. I live in the real world. I simply do not see how Donald Trump can attract the best people to his cabinet. He is hogtied.

Not that I wouldn't vote for him if he were the nominee. I just don't feel like waving flags. The handwriting is on the wall.

Posted by: creeper at October 01, 2022 12:21 PM (cTCuP)

164 You know one thing the GOP or any sane public force could do, which is never done, that could yield real benefits.

After rejecting the entire ridiculous premise of "climate" policies, warn everyone, especially corporations and investors, that their part of the scam will be shut down pronto at the first opportunity.

For once, use the body language and jaw-boning weapon to prevent massive theft and malinvestment, instead of (as currently) to discourage real and productive economic activity, with "climate" hysteria and general regulatory approach that will squelch domestic reindustrialization as quickly as Trump's opposite approach goosed it.

But that would require adults, with detectable character and sense of responsibility, and an electorate that created and rewarded them. So, fuggetaboutit.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 01, 2022 12:21 PM (OTzUX)

165 It really wasn't all that bad here. The folks down in the Naples and Fort Myers direction got hit hard.

Posted by: Insomniac, safe in the eye of the tornado at October 01, 2022 12:21 PM (II3Gr)

166 Insom!!!

Posted by: SMH at October 01, 2022 12:21 PM (VmzRz)

167 The RV also has a 4000 watt generator and we can move in there if need be.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
------------------------------

I have a noisy Honda generator.
What kind of generator do you have in the RV?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 01, 2022 12:22 PM (iam1O)

168 Nothing special planned. Need to go for a walk.
Lucy the Fink is enjoying chin rubs and whisker skritches.

Posted by: nurse ratched at October 01, 2022 12:23 PM (U2p+3)

169 I predict the Nostradamus pipeline will blow up.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 01, 2022 12:23 PM (63Dwl)

170 Hmmm, she just quoted LotR down to the character...

*crush deepening*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 01, 2022 12:23 PM (dNqv+)

171 where u been at??

Roaming through the earth and walking back and forth in it.

Posted by: Insomniac, safe in the eye of the tornado at October 01, 2022 12:24 PM (II3Gr)

172 *waves to SMH*

Just wanted y'all to know I'm intact. I'll be seeing you around.

Posted by: Insomniac, safe in the eye of the tornado at October 01, 2022 12:25 PM (II3Gr)

173 Roaming through the earth and walking back and forth in it.

Posted by: Insomniac


Like Caine in Kung Fu? Getting into adventures and shit?

Posted by: Jules at October 01, 2022 12:25 PM (oTZbj)

174 Insomniac, OUT OF the eye of the tornado

Posted by: m at October 01, 2022 12:25 PM (8rTNG)

175 Good to see you Insom.

Glad you're safe.

Posted by: SMH at October 01, 2022 12:27 PM (VmzRz)

176 Not "flag waving", whatever that's supposed to mean.

"Bad choices" in personnel was not what prevented Trump from doing more good, and the same factors that did also limited those personnel choices to start with.

Imagining some non-Trump prez who is of any value will face any fewer obstacles in everything including being able to attract good personnel is precisely and indeed wishcasting that ignores the "real world". It wasn't personal, it was business. Obviously.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 01, 2022 12:27 PM (OTzUX)

177 Have the warmongers in the Media-Industrial-Complex and the Biden Administration instigated WWIII yet?

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 01, 2022 12:29 PM (z+OQR)

178 Insomniac is back and I'm a poet and Don know it

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 01, 2022 12:31 PM (eGTCV)

179 Like Caine in Kung Fu? Getting into adventures and shit?
Posted by: Jules at October 01, 2022 12:25 PM (oTZbj)

Kwai Chang Som walks the earth with his tire iron, righting wrongs and...

Why was Kane in Kung Fu wandering? Looking for the man who killed his master? Looking for wisdom? I do not remember at all.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 01, 2022 12:31 PM (dNqv+)

180 177 Have the warmongers in the Media-Industrial-Complex and the Biden Administration instigated WWIII yet?
Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 01, 2022 12:29 PM (z+OQR)

*looks out window*

No mushroom clouds yet.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 01, 2022 12:32 PM (dNqv+)

181 Why was Kane in Kung Fu wandering? Looking for the man who killed his master? Looking for wisdom? I do not remember at all.

Posted by: Aetius451AD


Looking for his half-brother, Daniel.

Posted by: davidt at October 01, 2022 12:33 PM (oTZbj)

182 So they are backtracking what Harris said about hurricane relief.
Yeah. Right.
Any bets that FEMA drones now know what their marching orders are, in spite of what they are now saying publicly?

Posted by: Diogenes at October 01, 2022 12:34 PM (anj39)

183 Whatever The Biden Group's motivations are they are perverted.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 01, 2022 12:34 PM (iam1O)

184 Glad to hear that you-and your uh-"Hairy ballsack" are not underwater, Insomniac. Thx for checking in.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 01, 2022 12:36 PM (vH/6k)

185 Hmmm, now she is quoting Reagan. I can understand why utube was burying this speech a week ago when the most people would have been searching for it in english.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 01, 2022 12:36 PM (dNqv+)

186 So they are backtracking what Harris said about hurricane relief

The damage control must be exhausting.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 01, 2022 12:36 PM (Xrfse)

187 I thought Insomniac was making a reference to Satan in the back of Job. But Cain is lighter so I'll go with that

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 01, 2022 12:37 PM (eGTCV)

188 True story: Lizzo's next performance with feature the Kwai Chang Caine flute. And twerking.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 01, 2022 12:37 PM (z+OQR)

189 So, do you have something something you've accomplished recently you could tell us about?

January 13th, 2022, went into hospital ER at 11pm after having Bell's Palsy occur that afternoon and get worse through the evening (no idea what caused it, never "COVID vaccinated" and the only test I have taken for COVID was that night and it came up negative). Diagnosed with extremely high blood pressure (225 over something) and type-2 diabetic (A1c of 9 or 10 or something, don't remember). Confirmed not a stroke, but put on low-sodium, low-carb 2000 calorie diet going forward. And put on a number of medication.

9 months later, A1c is so low, I'm no longer considered diabetic (last check a couple months ago, it was down to around 4), blood pressure back to normal 120/80 and down from 350lbs to 285lbs. Long way to go to get to my personal goal of 200lbs (my college weight, 5'9" 200lbs of muscle), but progressing well. Feel a ton better. The Bell's Palsy ended up a blessing in disguise, because I was not disciplined before that to get serious about my weight loss on my own.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 01, 2022 12:37 PM (Do5/p)

190 Looking for his half-brother, Daniel.
Posted by: davidt at October 01, 2022 12:33 PM (oTZbj)

Was his brother evil? Kidnapped?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 01, 2022 12:37 PM (dNqv+)

191 >>Tell me something you are proud of that you've achieved recently.

I was able to make the client finally understand that event support for two events, means event support for only two events.

So that's nice.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at October 01, 2022 12:38 PM (up/3i)

192 130 There are so many ways Nordstream could have gone wrong it doesn't help that Uncle Joe has a habit of telegraphing The Biden Group's underhanded plans.

However, his mouth also provided an alternate group perfect cover for their plans.

And these thoughts discount brittle or poor quality metal, shoddy craftsmanship and lack of quality control.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 01, 2022 12:06 PM (iam1O)

Who actually built the pipelines? Was it Russian construction companies under Russian management using Russian materials, or German (or other western European) construction and management? That would seem to make a difference in the likelihood of pipeline failure as the cause.

Posted by: a.moron at October 01, 2022 12:40 PM (F6Xpw)

193 Check out this guy's analysis of the Nordstream destruction. Seems to know about gas pipelines, and his thinking is it was destroyed accidentally by the Rooskies, trying to prepare it to pump again...

https://thelawdogfiles.com/2022/09/nordstream.html

Posted by: Hawkpilot at October 01, 2022 12:41 PM (XlEmZ)

194 "Who actually built the pipelines?"
From what I am reading it's a coalition of different groups based in Switzerland. Gazprom makes up about 40 percent of that coalition.

Posted by: no one of importance at October 01, 2022 12:41 PM (jTmQV)

195 The vid of the Linemen/women remind me of how we staged for Desert Storm. Line after line of tanks, Bradleys and artillery. Those linemen/women are heroes indeed!

Posted by: Diogenes at October 01, 2022 12:41 PM (anj39)

196 Whew! Almost blew the margins!

Margins woulda been happy...

Posted by: Hawkpilot at October 01, 2022 12:41 PM (XlEmZ)

197 22 IMHO Morgan James is very attractive with an amazing voice.
Posted by: That NLurker guy


Yes. https://youtu.be/9C0xGB73Uuc

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at October 01, 2022 12:42 PM (ppL7t)

198 Hmmm, and using Reagan's metaphor of a stool to bring it back to Trump. Hmmm. Good speech so far. 2020.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 01, 2022 12:42 PM (dNqv+)

199 185 Hmmm, now she is quoting Reagan. I can understand why utube was burying this speech a week ago when the most people would have been searching for it in english.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
--------------------------------

She's a zealot. Here she is on the Maurio Costanza show in 1995:
https://youtu.be/8NDSwMIYazY?t=475

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 01, 2022 12:43 PM (iam1O)

200 Spent the day yesterday helping a friend clean out all of the stuff damaged by the storm surge here in Naples. They live about two blocks from the Naples pier. Had to trash almost everything in the house. There have been reports that the Naples pier was destroyed, but this is not true. Badly damaged for sure, but not destroyed. Flood waters made it to 41, for those familiar with Naples. Also anyplace near something connected to the Gulf flooded as well.

Posted by: Tofer732 at October 01, 2022 12:43 PM (fatpD)

201 Diogenes, who were you with for Desert Storm?

Posted by: Hawkpilot at October 01, 2022 12:43 PM (XlEmZ)

202 BAT has an 1981 Comuta-car up for auction

Posted by: REDACTED at October 01, 2022 12:44 PM (us2H3)

203 I'm really skeptical of both pipelines spontaneously self destructing while they're the world's number one geopolitical MacGuffin. That said, the Russians would gain nothing from doing it and the EU powers would gain very little. *If* someone sabotaged them, it's because that someone wants a forever war.

Posted by: CppThis at October 01, 2022 12:44 PM (UewuT)

204 200 Spent the day yesterday helping a friend clean out all of the stuff damaged by the storm surge here in Naples. They live about two blocks from the Naples pier. Had to trash almost everything in the house. There have been reports that the Naples pier was destroyed, but this is not true. Badly damaged for sure, but not destroyed. Flood waters made it to 41, for those familiar with Naples. Also anyplace near something connected to the Gulf flooded as well.
Posted by: Tofer732 at October 01, 2022 12:43 PM (fatpD)

Thanks for the firsthand news.

Posted by: m at October 01, 2022 12:45 PM (8rTNG)

205 Morgan James and Haley Reinhart duet...


https://tinyurl.com/bdd7mzcn

Posted by: davidt at October 01, 2022 12:47 PM (oTZbj)

206 Until and unless an alternate source is established that eclipses ALL the advantages of the ICE system that is what will power our transportation.

The proponents can squeak and fulminate endlessly but if electricity can't overcome those advantages it will remain an adjunct.

And everyone knows this, admit it or not.

Posted by: IRONGRAMPA at October 01, 2022 12:47 PM (KATBx)

207 That pipeline guy I posted above points out, it was not simultaneous. It was 17 hours apart, which is one of his main reasons why he says it was not commando action. Nobody would do that, unless they weren't able to do them simultaneously or near simultaneously.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at October 01, 2022 12:47 PM (XlEmZ)

208 Thunderous applause for you, Clyde Shelton. You did good.

Posted by: creeper at October 01, 2022 12:48 PM (cTCuP)

209 189 So, do you have something something you've accomplished recently you could tell us about?

... The Bell's Palsy ended up a blessing in disguise, because I was not disciplined before that to get serious about my weight loss on my own.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 01, 2022 12:37 PM (Do5/p)

Great GAINZZZ.

Posted by: m at October 01, 2022 12:48 PM (8rTNG)

210 194 "Who actually built the pipelines?"
From what I am reading it's a coalition of different groups based in Switzerland. Gazprom makes up about 40 percent of that coalition.

Posted by: no one of importance at October 01, 2022 12:41 PM (jTmQV)

Who did the actual design and hands-on construction? Who did the day-to-day management of the construction. Who did quality oversight? Who supplied the materials, and who made sure the supplied materials met specification?

Posted by: a.moron at October 01, 2022 12:48 PM (F6Xpw)

211 funny how in far western MA when it snows 4-5 feet, powers out and it's 10 below

it aint news

Posted by: REDACTED at October 01, 2022 12:48 PM (us2H3)

212 now a fire at a Tesla factory in Germany has activists demanding its closure.

The twitter activists who set the fires, that is.

Posted by: t-bird at October 01, 2022 12:49 PM (GMLOL)

213 Insom, read Annie's prayer thread.
Posted by: creeper at October 01, 2022 12:03 PM (cTCuP

Oh.
Oh shit.
Posted by: Insomniac, safe in the eye of the tornado at October 01, 2022 12:17 PM (II3Gr)


Ya know, rumor has it CBD has a shiv collection to rival Bluebells.
Just sayin'

Posted by: Diogenes at October 01, 2022 12:50 PM (anj39)

214 An average of 50 lineman die per year on the job. I have been involved in the investigation of injuries and deaths for 4 of them (2 injuries, 2 deaths). It is ferociously dangerous work. And these men (for the most part!) all have families and are the salt of the earth.


My great uncle was a lineman and was severely burnt back in the 50s but survived. Say a prayer for our brave lineman. (Death rate linemen is 42/100k. Cops are 70/100k).

Posted by: Justin Castreau at October 01, 2022 12:51 PM (ai2Yq)

215 funny how in far western MA when it snows 4-5 feet, powers out and it's 10 below

it aint news

That's because the power comes back on in a few hours, and you still have your freaking house and everything in it.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at October 01, 2022 12:51 PM (XlEmZ)

216 TCU is taking OU to the woodshed.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 01, 2022 12:52 PM (u73oe)

217 She's a zealot. Here she is on the Maurio Costanza show in 1995:
https://youtu.be/8NDSwMIYazY?t=475

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 01, 2022 12:43 PM (iam1O)

Utube's translator is absolute shit.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 01, 2022 12:53 PM (dNqv+)

218 197 22 IMHO Morgan James is very attractive with an amazing voice.
Posted by: That NLurker guy
-------------------------------

Was expecting a peg leg and an eyepatch.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 01, 2022 12:53 PM (iam1O)

219 Somebody needs to invent a giant refrigerator to stick that Lambo underneath to dry it out.

It works for dunked cell phones, why not cars?

Can you imagine how much you could charge someone for that?

Posted by: Sharkman at October 01, 2022 12:53 PM (ee/Pt)

220 Posted by: Hawkpilot at October 01, 2022 12:41 PM (XlEmZ)

Lawdog's post was illuminating. I was impressed yesterday when I read it.

Lawdog wasn't as impressed by me, evidently. If you scroll to the bottom of that post you'll see a testy exchange.

Comments there are moderated in advance. Be advised.

Posted by: creeper at October 01, 2022 12:55 PM (cTCuP)

221 Somebody needs to invent a giant refrigerator to stick that Lambo underneath to dry it out.

Ginormous bag o' rice...

Posted by: Hawkpilot at October 01, 2022 12:55 PM (XlEmZ)

222 I once watched some linesmen replace the insulators? on some high tension wires. They were dropped off on each tower by helicopter.

I could see their balls from the ground.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 01, 2022 12:55 PM (BFigT)

223 *If* someone sabotaged them, it's because that someone wants a forever war.

"The war in Ukraine will go on for years."

Posted by: General Milley! at October 01, 2022 12:55 PM (I2/tG)

224 Any reports of gator or snake trouble in Florida with the flooding?

Posted by: davidt at October 01, 2022 12:56 PM (oTZbj)

225 Glenn Campbell with an Oblig.:

https://youtu.be/Q8P_xTBpAcY

Posted by: Sharkman at October 01, 2022 12:57 PM (ee/Pt)

226 I was pretty convinced by Gateway Pundit that Biden had it done, but Lawdog has me questioning.

One of the commenters made the excellent point that if Biden had done it, it would have been screwed up.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at October 01, 2022 12:57 PM (XlEmZ)

227 Utube's translator is absolute shit.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
--------------------------------

Don't need a translator, she was a national force at 18.
How many Americans were a national political force at that age?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 01, 2022 12:57 PM (iam1O)

228 Any reports of gator or snake trouble in Florida with the flooding?

Posted by: davidt



Not in my area of St. Augustine, though the night Ian rambled through south of us there were a lot of pissed off frogs and birds who apparently don't like the noise of the wind.

Posted by: Sharkman at October 01, 2022 12:58 PM (ee/Pt)

229 The linemen are awesome, leaving home for a couple weeks probably. And it is no doubt good pay from FEMA, for the men and for the power companies that send them. So the infrastructure funds get spread around, another bonus.

I wonder if it will help Dems to have some "stimulus" in the system for a few months? Probably won't show up before this election, idk.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 01, 2022 12:58 PM (Cus5s)

230 How many Americans were a national political force at that age?
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 01, 2022 12:57 PM (iam1O)

David Hogg?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 01, 2022 12:59 PM (dNqv+)

231 Hiya Insom !

Don't be a strangler !

Posted by: JT at October 01, 2022 01:00 PM (T4tVD)

232 No. Please, nobody be a strangler.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at October 01, 2022 01:02 PM (XlEmZ)

233 Well, Alec Baldwin's wife could be a strangler.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at October 01, 2022 01:03 PM (XlEmZ)

234 Great picture of the linemen/women ready to assist Floridians.

Someone should throw some h2o on that witch Harris so she would melt away.

Posted by: sidney at October 01, 2022 01:03 PM (itAo5)

235 233 Well, Alec Baldwin's wife could be a strangler.
Posted by: Hawkpilot at October 01, 2022 01:03 PM (XlEmZ)

His trigger discipline and temper certainly are.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 01, 2022 01:04 PM (dNqv+)

236 Saw a funny Sun Tzu meme:
"If you do not know what you're doing, neither does your enemy"- Joe Tzu (aka, sniffy Joe)
https://is.gd/dM7EFL

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 01, 2022 01:04 PM (ynpvh)

237 Welcome back!

Posted by: The Zombie Boston Strangler at October 01, 2022 01:05 PM (Xrfse)

238 224 Any reports of gator or snake trouble in Florida with the flooding?
Posted by: davidt at October 01, 2022 12:56 PM (oTZbj)

Have not heard of any, but did hear of fish on the streets a few miles inland. Also saw some kids boogey boarding on the sides of streets in the water collection areas. Not recommended.

Posted by: Tofer732 at October 01, 2022 01:06 PM (fatpD)

239 236 Saw a funny Sun Tzu meme:
"If you do not know what you're doing, neither does your enemy"- Joe Tzu (aka, sniffy Joe)
https://is.gd/dM7EFL
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 01, 2022 01:04 PM (ynpvh)

Hmmm. Heh.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 01, 2022 01:06 PM (dNqv+)

240 Could he have done this with an electric vehicle, or did he need another source of energy in addition to electricity?{/i]

You would need supply lines to relay batteries up to "the front". Maybe a few hundred thousand chainsaw batteries per day, in addition to the all the EV batteries?

Posted by: t-bird at October 01, 2022 01:08 PM (Q14hI)

241 No matter how hard you work, no matter what you achieve, no matter how much you try to do the right thing, there's always something or someone waiting to crush it all to nothing, like a bully kicking over a sandcastle at the beach.
There, how's that?
Posted by: Insomniac, safe in the eye of the tornado at October 01, 2022 12:15 PM (II3Gr)


Perfect.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 01, 2022 01:10 PM (R/m4+)

242 "Nobody would do that, unless they weren't able to do them simultaneously or near simultaneously."

they would surely use timers in any case ... so 17 hours apart would look slightly less suspicious I guess. Seems it is now accepted to be sabotage, Biden himself said so.

Kash Patel noted that Russia could do it, since it (sorta) gives them the "9/11 type attack" justification to retaliate, with nukes or something. Other "experts" seem to agree with that sort of Art of War methodology. Of course they already had Biden on tape (and Nuland?) saying they would shut it down.

Ukraine, with the mini-sub, via Poland ... also feasible afaik. idk.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 01, 2022 01:11 PM (Cus5s)

243 Basses come in a variety of sizes.

I know a guy, Berklee grad, who is arguably one of the best jazz bassists in the country. He has made up his mind to "play in fifths," and sits in on violin every chance he gets.

He calls it a "soprano bass."

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at October 01, 2022 01:12 PM (x61Im)

244 Something I accomplished I’m proud of: I managed to PO a number of commenters on Powerline by giving several arguments for why it is plausible that Russia blew up the Nordstream pipelines, either accidentally or intentionally. I also pointed out that the logic of one of their main “American did it” arguments leads to the conclusion it was Trump.

Just trying to help.

Posted by: Durak Kazyol at October 01, 2022 01:12 PM (4zxRq)

245 Do the Russians have Flying Sub capability?

Posted by: Richard Basehart at October 01, 2022 01:13 PM (oTZbj)

246 /shambles in, disheveled


Epstein didn't sabotage the pipeline. I'm somewhat certain of that much.


/shambles out

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at October 01, 2022 01:13 PM (cupoy)

247 Is this really you?? Say something depressing so we can be sure!!
Posted by: kallisto at October 01, 2022 12:03 PM (dCxaZ)

Would you settle for something combative, such as "gargle my hairy ballsack"?
Posted by: Insomniac, safe in the eye of the tornado

That escalated quickly.....

Posted by: JT at October 01, 2022 01:14 PM (T4tVD)

248 I do not know that anyone here is particularly invested in who did it- other than to ask the question.

Well, there was that one high energy ukraine/anti-russian guy yesterday.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 01, 2022 01:16 PM (dNqv+)

249 they would surely use timers in any case

If your goal is to start WWIII, you could train some one-way divers. "No thanks, we don't need to learn about ascending."

Posted by: t-bird at October 01, 2022 01:16 PM (Q14hI)

250 Why intentionally blow up a non - operating pipeline? The only reason I can think of is to sabotage any negotiations to end the war and restart the pipeline.

Posted by: polynikes at October 01, 2022 01:17 PM (lKM6R)

251 Basses come in a variety of sizes.
Posted by: no one of importance

Like the octobass, which is too big for a human to play. So you stand on a chair and use a set of levers to help you reach the "fingerboard".

https://youtu.be/a7xoXfceKeg

Posted by: mikeski at October 01, 2022 01:19 PM (P1f+c)

252 Epstein 'could' have contracted someone 5 years ago, then committed suicide to cover his tracks.

That's some 4th dimensional chess for you.

*taps side of head*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 01, 2022 01:19 PM (dNqv+)

253 The weekend is here finally

Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2022 01:20 PM (xhxe8)

254 Not buying that link ace posted yesterday to Lawdog. Much of what the guy posted is true about pipelines and for that matter Russian maintenance. Still not enough details and everything is still speculation, but the theory Lawdog presents is still a long shot.
A methane hydrate plug(s) in both pipelines containing enough oxygen within them to ignite and explode in a pipe? I need more data on the amount of explosions caused by this in underwater pipelines.
As far as a plug coming loose in the pipeline at a high velocity and encountering an elbow or tight enough bend to cause a mechanical failure, not likely as I guarantee there are no 90's, 45's or 22's in that line. The only possible thing is a plug encountering some type of restriction and then rupturing the pipe. Me and my buddies that build and maintain pipelines were discussing this when one sent me an article of an underwater drone full of explosives found next to the original N.Stream pipeline in 2015, Obviously someone has thought about taking out the pipeline before. So.......

Posted by: JROD at October 01, 2022 01:21 PM (0jZnq)

255 246 /shambles in, disheveled

/shambles out
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at October 01, 2022 01:13 PM (cupoy)

Rough night, Bilwis?

Posted by: creeper at October 01, 2022 01:22 PM (cTCuP)

256 Seen comments in a few sites of who might have blown up the pipeline. Anyone's guess

Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2022 01:22 PM (xhxe8)

257 “250 Why intentionally blow up a non - operating pipeline?”

Because it is there.

Posted by: Durak Kazyol at October 01, 2022 01:22 PM (4zxRq)

258 256 Seen comments in a few sites of who might have blown up the pipeline. Anyone's guess

Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2022 01:22 PM (xhxe

The Pope?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 01, 2022 01:23 PM (ynpvh)

259 10 years ago, we had a bad storm in NE CT in mid Oct

luckily, my little village got barely missed here in the far southern Berkshires

the ice took down just about every old big maple
a million people without power
many for 2 weeks

and some people died

and you probably never heard of it

Posted by: REDACTED at October 01, 2022 01:23 PM (us2H3)

260 Oh, boy! I almost missed the video at the bottom. THAT would have been a shame.

Posted by: creeper at October 01, 2022 01:23 PM (cTCuP)

261 Basses come in a variety of sizes.
Posted by: no one of importance

Smallmouth, Largemouth, Calico, Rock....

Posted by: JT at October 01, 2022 01:23 PM (T4tVD)

262 sorry, NW CT

Posted by: REDACTED at October 01, 2022 01:24 PM (us2H3)

263 258 256 Seen comments in a few sites of who might have blown up the pipeline. Anyone's guess

Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2022 01:22 PM (xhxe

The Pope?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 01, 2022 01:23 PM (ynpvh)

I mean, he wanted monies pulled out of foreign accounts and into Vatican accounts by the end of September...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 01, 2022 01:25 PM (ynpvh)

264 The Pope?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at October 01, 2022 01:23 PM (ynpvh)

Was the pipeline a child in the womb?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 01, 2022 01:25 PM (dNqv+)

265 and sits in on violin every chance he gets.
He calls it a "soprano bass."
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver

A soprano bass?

https://youtu.be/SQNtGoM3FVU?t=262

Posted by: mikeski regrets nothing at October 01, 2022 01:27 PM (P1f+c)

266 Gardening is nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 01, 2022 01:28 PM (dNqv+)

267 247 Would you settle for something combative, such as "gargle my hairy ballsack"?
Posted by: Insomniac, safe in the eye of the tornado

That escalated quickly.....
Posted by: JT at October 01, 2022 01:14 PM (T4tVD)

That's our Insom!

* exaggerated shrug *
* canned audience laughter *
* freeze-frame *
* chroma-keyed credits scroll *

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at October 01, 2022 01:29 PM (DTX3h)

268 the ice took down just about every old big maple
a million people without power
many for 2 weeks

and some people died

and you probably never heard of it

Yea, there's a reason I moved out of Wyoming after 20 years, and it is similar to the reason I don't live in Florida.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at October 01, 2022 01:30 PM (XlEmZ)

269 261 Basses come in a variety of sizes.
Posted by: no one of importance

Smallmouth, Largemouth, Calico, Rock....
*****

I was afraid someone would trout something like that out.

Posted by: Durak Kazyol at October 01, 2022 01:30 PM (4zxRq)

270 Time to talk about Gardening and Puttering, you reprobates!

Posted by: kallisto at October 01, 2022 01:31 PM (dCxaZ)

271 Greta most obviously

Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2022 01:32 PM (xhxe8)

272 There's this bass who sings a lot of pop songs in a deep bass. It's an interesting effect.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 01, 2022 01:33 PM (eGTCV)

273 Posted by: JROD at October 01, 2022 01:21 PM (0jZnq)
___

We're talking about a country that maintained Chernobyl.

Posted by: SMH at October 01, 2022 01:33 PM (VmzRz)

274 There doesn't seem to be a lot of demand for bass singers outside of opera and Southern gospel.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at October 01, 2022 01:35 PM (eGTCV)

275 @273 SMH-Chernobyl was flawed engineering, not maintenance.

There's a lot to take into consideration for what happened to happen. Not that it couldn't but a lot of f'ing up and not following procedure in starting up a pipeline had to happen. You had to have a lot of people agree to usurp or bypass procedure. Usually not enough people to put their asses on the line in something like that. If it did happen, someone will sing.

Posted by: JROD at October 01, 2022 01:37 PM (0jZnq)

276 Time to talk about Gardening and Puttering, you reprobates!

Got nothin' to contribute in that area. Have a good afternoon, everybody.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at October 01, 2022 01:38 PM (Xrfse)

277
Why intentionally blow up a non - operating pipeline?

Posted by: polynikes at October 01, 2022 01:17 PM

insurance money

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 01, 2022 01:40 PM (ENBF0)

278 Republican county commissioner endorses Oz for senate, but Democrat Shapiro for gov because "we have to repudiate the extremists like Mastriano" Fuck you.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Christian Nationalist, Defiant! at October 01, 2022 01:43 PM (7Jp6D)

279 A magical view of deers in Lake Interlaken, Switzerland

https://bit.ly/3T5lElB

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 01, 2022 01:44 PM (Do5/p)

280 That's not double bass.

THIS is double bass.

* 12-minute, 5,000,000 bpm double bass-drum session commences *

Posted by: Gene Hoglan at October 01, 2022 01:44 PM (DTX3h)

281 Republican county commissioner endorses Oz for senate, but Democrat Shapiro for gov because "we have to repudiate the extremists like Mastriano"

I hope he's in my county so I can vote against him. Because I'm in the extremist majority.

Posted by: t-bird at October 01, 2022 01:47 PM (Q14hI)

282 Russians and equipment maintenance are passing acquaintances.

Sporadic and brief.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 01, 2022 01:52 PM (KATBx)

283 Welcome back insom

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 01, 2022 01:54 PM (EZebt)

284 Fortunately, we only saw 35mph wind gusts and a lot of rain. The power occasionally flickered, but stayed on.

Posted by: mrp at October 01, 2022 01:59 PM (6eRlp)

285 "Why intentionally blow up a non - operating pipeline?"
Posted by: polynikes

the theory as I understand it, is while Germany had agreed to (stop?) not buy from Russia (hence funding the Russian wat effort) ... but as pressure mounted and Germans began to freeze, and industry also suffered, that German politicians would relent.

This removes that option.

Varying reports on cost/time to repair. Only number I heard was $250M. That is a lot, but considering we alone just dumped maybe $60B into Ukraine (or wherever it went) ... that is not that huge, making it a feasible gambit by Putin to get some of the world (and his own country) on his side.

And it would take at least 6 months? in normal times.

Posted by: illiniwek at October 01, 2022 02:02 PM (Cus5s)

286 @282 irongrampa-most companies that build, maintain and operate these types of pipelines the personal are multi-national. I've worked for the the company that did the piping on the receiving side of Nordstream. Aker Kvaerner, putting in high pressure steam piping at a power plant.

Posted by: JROD at October 01, 2022 02:04 PM (0jZnq)

287 Why intentionally blow up a non - operating pipeline?

Posted by: polynikes at October 01, 2022 01:17 PM

insurance money
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 01, 2022 01:40 PM (ENBF0)


What's Russian for "Hey comrade, watch this!" ?

Posted by: Diogenes at October 01, 2022 02:09 PM (anj39)

288 After Sandy hit NYC and power was out in some places for a week many people realized that for the first time that you need electricity to pump gasoline.
With an EV there also a good chance of running your house under reduced load for 3 days or being able to use rechargeable hand tools

Posted by: Paul at October 01, 2022 02:09 PM (Q8aps)

289 C.A.T. no doubt a lover of the Emperor Wolf lock down

Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2022 02:11 PM (xhxe8)

290 There doesn't seem to be a lot of demand for bass singers outside of opera

or ending a Die Hard movie. At Christmas.

"insurance money": who adjudicates these claims? The Hague Int'l Court of Justice? Interpol?
Faye Dunaway in The Thomas Crown Affair?

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at October 01, 2022 02:13 PM (x61Im)

291 What's Russian for "Hey comrade, watch this!" ?
Posted by: Diogenes at October 01, 2022 02:09 PM (anj39)

—————

Holdska muh beerski.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at October 01, 2022 02:13 PM (u73oe)

292 With an EV, there is a good chance of your house hurning for 3 days.

Posted by: fd at October 01, 2022 02:15 PM (Sf9YQ)

293 US Circuit Judge James Ho, said Yale 'not only tolerates the cancellation of views - it actively practices it.'
He won't take law clerks from Yale.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 01, 2022 02:19 PM (iam1O)

294 sock no more

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at October 01, 2022 02:22 PM (AiZBA)

295 Let's say, subzero temps. Not too much below, 20 degrees.

Power goes out. You hook up your car.

How long could you run just your electric furnace for?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 01, 2022 02:22 PM (dNqv+)

296 The House of Representatives passed legislation proposed by Democratic California Rep. Zoe Lofgren and Republican Wyoming Rep. Liz Cheney that would increase the number of lawmakers needed to object to a state’s electoral vote count.
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Just saw this, don't understand it yet. But look who's sponsoring it. IT MUST BE DANGEROUS.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 01, 2022 02:36 PM (iam1O)

297 Clue #2
None of the nine Republicans who voted in favor of the Presidential Election Reform Act will serve in the 118th Congress. Eight of the Republicans voted to impeach former President Donald Trump in the aftermath of the Jan. 6 Capitol riot. The ninth, New York Rep. Chris Jacobs, announced his retirement after supporting gun control legislation.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 01, 2022 02:38 PM (iam1O)

298 295 Let's say, subzero temps. Not too much below, 20 degrees.
Power goes out. You hook up your car.
How long could you run just your electric furnace for?
Posted by: Aetius451AD
--------------------------------

A F-150 with the generator accessory it would run your furnace for about 20 gallons. Don't what consumption at that draw would be. At least 10 hours is a guess.

Wait, if it's a gas or coal furnace (not electric) the draw would only be for the fan which would be much less.



Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 01, 2022 02:44 PM (iam1O)

299 Seems to me there will be a lot more corrosion on those water-logged EVs.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at October 01, 2022 02:45 PM (z+OQR)

300 I can't wait to get rid of Lizzy. Even a volcano would spit her back out

Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2022 02:54 PM (xhxe8)

301 Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 01, 2022 02:44 PM (iam1O)

The question was in response to the troll. All electric truck or car.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 01, 2022 03:08 PM (dNqv+)

302 You loot, we shoot' - Florida Governor Ron DeSantis issues a stark warning to any opportunistic thieves

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at October 01, 2022 03:17 PM (iam1O)

303 Having only one form of energy is like Having only one sex act.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at October 01, 2022 03:18 PM (o4aND)

304 Haley Reinhart is totally yummy.

Posted by: butch at October 01, 2022 03:20 PM (cHvOo)

305 304 Haley Reinhart is totally yummy.
Posted by: butch at October 01, 2022 03:20 PM (cHvOo)

Yes.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 01, 2022 03:21 PM (dNqv+)

306 PET NOOD

So ends this thread, glad you could all visit today

Posted by: Skip at October 01, 2022 03:22 PM (xhxe8)

307 Everybody must try

Posted by: Profile97 at October 01, 2022 03:38 PM (M75VS)

308 "By 2030, the United States is expected to see as much as one million total tons of solar panel waste."

#1 - Is there any way to recycle these panels to make them useful as anything other than some form of art?
#2 - How much of the non-recyclable panels are from China versus America (if any at all from the latter)?

5 to 10 years ago, there was a push for improvements in solar technology. Harnessing more % of sunlight by novel means. But also around that time, China got the tech, then dumped cheap solar panels on American shores. How many businesses went out of business because OSHA and similar alphabet agencies frown upon actual slavery and dumping of waste where your subjects eat and sleep, but only for American companies?

Not to mention the lack of care for quality control that China is known for.

The globalists bent us over and reamed us out. The greenies followed along because they hate humanity.

Posted by: Another Anon at October 01, 2022 04:15 PM (sy/OZ)

309 Hi, I don't have a lot of time to hang out here, so quick hits.

I checked the news and I haven't found any Tesla factory battery fires. Fremont had a boiler room fire and a fire in an area under construction, and going back years had paint shop fires. Berlin had a giant fire in a cardboard recycling area. For all of these fires, arson is a possible cause, and the one in Germany really looks suspicious to me.

Can you use an electric vehicle to flee a disaster, buy tools, and come back? Sure, why not? Electric vehicles are vehicles. Gas or diesel have the great property that you can have a fuel can and (a) it's fast to use it and (b) you can go dozens of miles from it, so that's better than electric. Electric vehicles can charge at home if you have solar, so that's better if your home didn't get hit. The more homes have solar, the more resilient an area gets in total.

Will electric cars save people money? Yes, once the purchase price drops a bit more. They are already cheaper to operate and maintain, but cost a lot up front. If they are cheaper just to buy then most people will want to switch.

Posted by: mr_jack at October 01, 2022 04:22 PM (57l0O)

310 How long can I run my electric heat on solar/batteries? I have a heat pump that takes less power to heat my entire house than a plug-in space heater takes. Similar to my electric car, this cost a lot up front but is cheaper to operate.

Idiot Democrats are talking like everyone can just snap their fingers and switch to heat pumps overnight. It's going to take time. But I (and mrs_jack) love our heat pump and I'm glad I was able to get it.

Anyway I can run the heat in the winter for over a full day off the backup batteries. I haven't been through winter with the solar power yet so I don't know whether I would be able to run the heat for an extended period (recharging the batteries with the solar) but I can tell you that if a disaster happens in the summer, we could go for weeks with no problem, cooling the house 24/7 and even charging the car with the solar. On a sunny day in August, one hour of charging close to noon can charge the car enough to drive 30 miles... so I totally can operate the house while charging the house batteries and charging the car. During the winter, it will not be anywhere near as good but it will be a lot better than not having backup power.

Posted by: mr_jack at October 01, 2022 04:29 PM (57l0O)

311 I was pretty convinced by Gateway Pundit that Biden had it done, but Lawdog has me questioning.

One of the commenters made the excellent point that if Biden had done it, it would have been screwed up.
Posted by: Hawkpilot at October 01, 2022 12:57 PM (XlEmZ)

Well the four separate comments attributing it to us by Biden and other insiders could be construed as screwing it up.

And the supposed rallying of the populace as propaganda is a bit strange - the West already has tried to destroy their economy by their own claims and wants to topple the government - by their own claims. Not sure Gazprom taking a loss on a closed pipeline sparks patriotic furor.

Posted by: Oldcat at October 01, 2022 04:34 PM (eoQWY)

312 What's Russian for "Hey comrade, watch this!" ?
Posted by: Diogenes

Hold my vodka?

Posted by: SFGoth at October 01, 2022 04:53 PM (KAi1n)

313 308 How many businesses went out of business because OSHA and similar alphabet agencies frown upon actual slavery and dumping of waste where your subjects eat and sleep, but only for American companies?

Not federal OSHA; not for that. However, about 20 years ago, a Bureau of Prisons (BOP) safety manager began raising alarms about (BOP)'s prison industry computer and other electronics recycling program during which prison workers and prisoners were exposed to over 30 heavy metals, such as cadium & lead, along with broken glass.

Following IG investigation, the program ceased, with final abatement completed around 2009. (BOP is under the DOJ.)

To state the obvious, recycling programs can be hazardous in many ways and also, yes, especially for private employers any # of agencies - federal &/or state - may be involved. Peace.

Posted by: Lola at October 01, 2022 06:57 PM (NIYa7)

314 Electric vehicles are vehicles.

*

Stop being absurd.

They're vehicles the same way motorcycles are also vehicles.

They are not "vehicles" for people who need actual vehicles.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Don't insist that I accept what you are when you can't accept what you are at October 01, 2022 08:37 PM (O01nq)

315 #314 Moron Robbie

> Stop being absurd.

>They are not "vehicles" for people who need actual vehicles.

My Tesla Model S carries more stuff+people than my old station wagon used to carry. I could throw a few tools and generators in the back, no problem.

If you really want to carry a lot of stuff a truck would be better. Electric trucks are coming. The Ford F-150 electric edition is actually quite popular but has three major problems: (a) Ford can't make a profit on it, (b) Ford can't make enough of it, and (c) it's not fit for towing. Well, a 1908 Model T isn't fit for towing either, despite being a gasoline vehicle. Give the electric vehicles some time; they'll get there.

But don't try to tell me things like Electric vehicles are not "for people who need actual vehicles." I love my electric car and would buy it again.

Just because Democrat idiots are trying to say that poor people hurt by their policies can simply buy electric cars, doesn't mean that electric cars are bad. I'm in favor of letting people decide when (if ever) they buy any electric vehicles, but I'm confident most people will want them soon.

Posted by: mr_jack at October 02, 2022 12:33 AM (57l0O)

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