Biden's Gestapo: 40 Subpeonaes Issued To Trump Allies In Just One Week, Demanding To Know If They've Ever Endorsed a Political Theory The Regime Deems to be Illegal and Insurrection-y

They're literally demanding any correspondence in which people discussed the legal possibility of Congress rejecting states' slates of electors, and sending them back for a recanvass.

Even if you don't believe this theory, it has never before been the case in America that an erroneous legal or political theory was illegal.

Until now.

And the "anti-authoritarians" of NeverTrump are cheerleading this. There is literally no Gestapo tactic they will not support to "save our democracy."

Biden's war on Trump heats up with 40 subpoenas issued by the DOJ in one week
The Department of Justice has launched two campaigns of legal warfare against the former president. They have seized phones, documents, raided homes, and now have issued some 40 subpoenas in just one week.
The Biden administration is waging a multi-pronged attack against Donald Trump and his supporters, with the goal of making sure neither he nor anyone who supported him, will be able to run for office. The Department of Justice has launched two campaigns of legal warfare against the former president. They have seized phones, documents, raided homes, and now have issued some 40 subpoenas in just one week.
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The Justice Department appears to hope that one of these far-reaching investigations will result in an indictment for Trump, as well as for anyone close enough to be caught by their legal shrapnel.
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The DOJ is seeking to find information that the people who planned that rally also intended to create a riot at the Capitol Building to obstruct the electoral college's certification of Joe Biden as president. The DOJ also wants any documents about the rally, or the alternate electors, that were submitted to the congressional January 6 Committee, turned over to them.
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Those subpoenas, obtained by Tucker Carlson Tonight, seek information on "any claim that the Vice President and/or the President of the Senate had the authority to reject or choose not to count presidential electors." The subpoenas are not looking for official communications, memos, or directives, but are seeking personal communications. Subpoenas went to Trump's attorneys, as well, and in that they are seeking personal communications, they are looking for communications that are covered under attorney-client privilege.

Similarly, the Biden Administration is now subpeonaeing records of a conservative political group in Alabama that helped craft a bill to prohibit doctors from performing transgender surgeries on children.

Deb Heine writes that Biden's Norms-Restoring Department of Justice takes the position that it can presume to "investigate" such normal political activity, demanding all records and communications from a private group engaging in a political effort the Biden Administration opposes.

The Justice Department last month issued a subpoena to the Eagle Forum of Alabama (EFA), demanding all information related to their legislative activities promoting SB184, also known as the Alabama Vulnerable Child Compassion And Protection Act (VCAP).
The DOJ's subpoena requested all documents or information pertaining to the legislation since 2017, including all communications, and "any materials considered by the Eagle Forum of Alabama in preparing" the legislation.

I'm in a Lois Lerner frame of mind.

As a 501(c)(4) social welfare advocacy organization, EFA is "legally authorized and expected to fully participate in the legislative processes through education and lobbying efforts," said Margaret S. Clarke, General Counsel of Eagle Forum of Alabama.
The VCAP law prohibits "the performance of a medical procedure upon or to a minor child that is intended to alter the minor child's sex or delay puberty, with certain exceptions."
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"At stake here is the ability of all private citizen advocates and non-profit advocacy organizations to engage in the legislative process regardless of their viewpoint,"
Ullman said. "If the DOJ can weaponize a subpoena, any American can be unduly burdened and prevented from engaging in our democratic republic form of government, she added.
"This unprecedented, massive demand by the DOJ for information unrelated to the issues before the court is a blatant attempt to intimidate and silence a non-party organization and crush its Constitutionally-protected rights to educate others, petition the government, and speak freely," said Ullman. "This harassment must be stopped. It's a shot across the bow of people and groups engaged in the legislative process throughout the nation. If the Department of Justice doesn't like your viewpoint it may target you next."

On Monday, Tucker Carlson addressed the descent of America into a Nazi Police State.

Joe Biden's Department of Justice in recent days has subpoenaed "dozens and dozens" of allies and supporters of former President Trump, seeking communications regarding presidential electors in the 2020 election, Fox News host Tucker Carlson revealed during an explosive opening monologue on Tucker Carlson Tonight.
Carlson said "scores" of Joe Biden's political opponents like Amy Kremer--a former Tea Party leader and political activist--are being hounded by federal agents in a "precedent-breaking sweep."
Kremer's organization "Women for America First" hosted the "Stop the Steal" rally in Washington, D.C. on January 6, and even though she didn't personally attend the rally, she and her daughter were subpoenaed by the partisan House Select Committee in September of 2021.
"For the crime of organizing a lawful political event--an election justice rally protested by the Constitution--Amy Kremer is now being terrorized by Merrick Garland's DOJ," Carlson reported Monday night. "On Wednesday morning, FBI agents showed up at her home--at first at the home of her ex-husband carrying a subpoena for her daughter Kylie."
Carlson said the FBI's subpoena demanded all communications from Amy Kremer and Kylie, including her social media posts from October 1, 2020 to the present day.
The host questioned why Joe Biden's FBI would need Amy Kremer's daughter's Instagram posts, and posited that it has nothing to do with the events leading up to January 6.

Carlson's monologue below the fold.

But while Biden's Gestapo can demand all personal records of its political enemies, American citizens may not request records from Biden's Gestapo, writes Byron York.

A conservative group used FOIA to seek information about how Biden sought to execute his executive order 14019 -- which would supposedly "protect voting rights."

How? In what way? By what authority?

These are the sorts of questions citizens are permitted answers to, right?

Not any longer:

On July 30, 2021, a conservative but nonpartisan think tank called the Foundation for Government Accountability sent a Freedom of Information Act request to the Justice Department asking for documents showing how the department is complying with Biden's order. The foundation was particularly interested in the specific plan the department came up with -- what was the DOJ actually going to do to implement the president's wishes? "Please provide your agency's strategic plan developed pursuant to President Biden Executive Order 14019 ... outlining ways you identified for your agency to promote voter registration and voter participation," the request said.
The Justice Department's answer was...nothing. A year passed, and the Justice Department did not turn over a single document. So the foundation went to court, and as a result, a federal judge ordered the Justice Department to turn over the material. The judge set a deadline of Sept. 8, 2022. The Justice Department waited until the last day and turned over...next to nothing. It sent a batch of emails and a few documents that turned out mostly to be staffers corresponding with each other over who would be present at which meeting.
Most importantly, the Justice Department refused to turn over its strategic plan. None of it. This is what the chief of the Freedom of Information branch of the Civil Rights Division told the foundation:

After review of the Civil Rights Division documents responsive to your request, the Division has identified (15) pages of material representing the STRATEGIC PLAN for the Implementation of Executive Order 14019, Promoting Access to Voting. I have determined that these materials are to be withheld in full pursuant to Exemption 5 of the Freedom of Information Act, 551(b)(5), which pertains to certain inter- and intra-agency records protected by civil discovery privileges, in this instance the deliberative process and presidential communications privileges.

To withhold the plan, the Justice Department relied on what has long been called the most abused exemption -- Exemption 5, also known as (b)(5) -- of the Freedom of Information Act. "This incredibly large cutout is often called the 'withhold it because you want to' exemption," wrote journalist and FOIA advocate Nate Jones in 2014. "According to stats compiled by the Associated Press, (b)(5) use is at an all-time high." Even though later reform reduced its use a little, Exemption 5 is still an indispensable tool for administrations seeking to hide what they are doing.
So the strategic plan, the document that would give the world some information on what the administration is doing to enact Biden's order, remains a secret. But that's not all. The Justice Department is withholding lots of other information, as well.

Fuck off, peasants.

What are you going to do about it?

Biden's the King, you know.

Posted by: Ace at 06:36 PM

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1 Hmm.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 13, 2022 06:35 PM (T4RS9)

2 First!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 13, 2022 06:36 PM (llXky)

3 Nothing will ever happen

until Something does.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 13, 2022 06:37 PM (llON8)

4 When seconds count...

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 13, 2022 06:37 PM (llXky)

5 This is being done for effect not results. The effect is aimed at us, of course. Be quiet! is the message. Not that that will save you in the next phase.

Posted by: kraken at September 13, 2022 06:38 PM (Vr12I)

6 Nothing will ever happen

until Something does.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 13, 2022 06:37 PM (llON

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Wake me when the fun starts.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 13, 2022 06:38 PM (llXky)

7 Disgusting.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 13, 2022 06:38 PM (uFvCs)

8 I feel a great disturbance in the Force.

Posted by: Czech Chick at September 13, 2022 06:38 PM (haWye)

9 >>> 4 When seconds count...
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 13, 2022 06:37 PM (llXky)

... the Eff.Bee.EYE will be there in an hour, after they've finished their donuts and coffee.

Then they'll shoot the hostage.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 13, 2022 06:39 PM (llON8)

10 All the proof in the world won't change a thing. The ruling class doesn't care about the rule of law, Justice, integrity or fairness. They want their power and their grift and FUCK YOU if you don't like it. Scream to the heavens, peons. Nothing will ever happen.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 13, 2022 06:39 PM (uns/F)

11
So what's the basis for the subpoenas? Conspiracy to Obstruct a Federal Proceeding? That's elastic enough to cover anything.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 13, 2022 06:40 PM (1Nxff)

12 How long before "The Dispatch" gets subpoenaed for communications related to an article that isn't sufficiently pro Biden?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 13, 2022 06:40 PM (fs1hN)

13 The fun times approacheth...

Posted by: Norman Spiny at September 13, 2022 06:41 PM (IysUk)

14 Trump allies need to simply say, "No, bra, I got nothing. Fuck off."

Oh, and blow me.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 13, 2022 06:41 PM (ufFY8)

15 Biden's the King, you know.

I'd say give it back to Chuckie (not really) but he's a WEFtard too.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 13, 2022 06:41 PM (llON8)

16 And the difference between Elizabeth II and Charles III with King Biden is that they are constitutional monarchs with restraints on their powers.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 13, 2022 06:41 PM (yikp0)

17 You don't have to comply with a subpoena.

Posted by: Joe kidtoucher at September 13, 2022 06:41 PM (ZYwGu)

18
Did someone mention coffee and donuts?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 13, 2022 06:41 PM (1Nxff)

19 Can subpoenas be lawfully issued on a whim, for no reason? Is this some ridiculous bad-faith extension of an "investigation" into the riot? Can't the targets tell the Feds to eff off?

Posted by: rhomboid at September 13, 2022 06:42 PM (OTzUX)

20 In the books, the villain at least attempts to look benevolent. Biden's handlers lack such subtlety.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 13, 2022 06:42 PM (tdsvC)

21 Biden's the King, you know.

Will no one rid him of that turbulent commentator?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 13, 2022 06:42 PM (guGkK)

22 It's good to be The ~~King~~ Biden...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 13, 2022 06:42 PM (K5n5d)

23 If the FBI doesn't get you the IRS will.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 13, 2022 06:43 PM (NpAcC)

24 Because angry demented Biden wants Trump indicted before the midterms and his supporters as well.

I am looking at Galaxy Quest (Thanks Pug Mahon) in about 25 minutes which seems like a good respite from vengeful, nutty left wingers, and thanks for the other suggestions, but I did know the titles some of you suggested (It's not as if I never go to movies) and Schindler's List is not light and fun. You did make me laugh, however. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 13, 2022 06:43 PM (vH/6k)

25 By this standard every moron here should be searched and have their Internet equipment impounded.

Right?

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at September 13, 2022 06:43 PM (q7YwT)

26 >>> 19 Can subpoenas be lawfully issued on a whim, for no reason? Is this some ridiculous bad-faith extension of an "investigation" into the riot? Can't the targets tell the Feds to eff off?
Posted by: rhomboid at September 13, 2022 06:42 PM (OTzUX)

Sure, why not.

Whether or not they can prevent the feralgov from getting what it wants, well...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 13, 2022 06:43 PM (llON8)

27 And 90% of the Beltway, and 80% of the GOP, and 50% of the populace, are just fine with this descent into crude Third World authoritarian practices.

Enjoy!

Posted by: rhomboid at September 13, 2022 06:43 PM (OTzUX)

28 Keep saying Sundowner has declared war on us

Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2022 06:44 PM (k8B25)

29 Why is Biden making an unscheduled, 1 hour trip to Delaware tonight and then returning to the WH? No reason is being given.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2022 06:44 PM (ZLI7S)

30 I want to subpoena Joe Mannix's files for all bewbs positioned to point to the right.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 13, 2022 06:44 PM (RjWOi)

31 Not a smidgen.

Posted by: 496 at September 13, 2022 06:44 PM (U1eOr)

32 19 Can subpoenas be lawfully issued on a whim, for no reason? Is this some ridiculous bad-faith extension of an "investigation" into the riot? Can't the targets tell the Feds to eff off?
Posted by: rhomboid at September 13, 2022 06:42 PM (OTzUX)

The issue could be that if they don’t comply they will simply arrest them and haul them into a federal detention center. Who is going to stop them now? A charge can be manufactured no doubt.

Posted by: kraken at September 13, 2022 06:44 PM (Vr12I)

33 Their making up unwritten laws and charging people on them.

Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2022 06:44 PM (k8B25)

34 Lefties slogan -MASU-Make America the Soviet Union

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 13, 2022 06:45 PM (vH/6k)

35 >>> 29 Why is Biden making an unscheduled, 1 hour trip to Delaware tonight and then returning to the WH? No reason is being given.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2022 06:44 PM (ZLI7S)

They're going to pick up another clone, the current one is about finished.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 13, 2022 06:45 PM (llON8)

36 25 By this standard every moron here should be searched and have their Internet equipment impounded.

Right?
Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at September 13, 2022

Pretty much, yes.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 13, 2022 06:45 PM (oeVy+)

37 The issue could be that if they don’t comply they will simply arrest them and haul them into a federal detention center. Who is going to stop them now? A charge can be manufactured no doubt.
Posted by: kraken at September 13, 2022 06:44 PM (Vr12I)
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"Obstruction of justice."

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 13, 2022 06:45 PM (K5n5d)

38 Thanks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 13, 2022 06:43 PM (vH/6k)

Enjoy. Super fun movie. I call it my favorite Star Trek movie.

Posted by: Pug Mahon (x8Wzq) at September 13, 2022 06:45 PM (xPJvm)

39 boog's inevitable at this point.

they're not going to allow us to live in peace, or have a say in this Republic unless we take it.

Posted by: Unclefacts at September 13, 2022 06:45 PM (euG9/)

40 25 By this standard every moron here should be searched and have their Internet equipment impounded.

Right?
Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at September 13, 2022 06:43 PM (q7YwT)

Soon - our only sfeguard is our unimportance. For now.

Posted by: kraken at September 13, 2022 06:46 PM (Vr12I)

41 Can subpoenas be lawfully issued on a whim, for no reason? Is this some ridiculous bad-faith extension of an "investigation" into the riot? Can't the targets tell the Feds to eff off?
Posted by: rhomboid at September 13, 2022 06:42 PM (OTzUX)

In theory, the target can file a motion to quash the subpoena. If I had any faith in the judiciary at this point I would think that would be a sufficient safeguard against overreach and abuse.

But I don't have that faith anymore.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 13, 2022 06:46 PM (guGkK)

42 Its amazing, all things considered, that the FBI and DOJ weren't politically weaponized before now. You simply can't have these kinds of institutions, with these broad powers, in a society that wishes to remain free.

Posted by: EL84 at September 13, 2022 06:46 PM (STP+T)

43 Its this kind of crap that makes me wonder if we'll even have an election in '24. They are going balls to the wall commie.

Posted by: Fool Otto at September 13, 2022 06:46 PM (DB16e)

44 29 Why is Biden making an unscheduled, 1 hour trip to Delaware tonight and then returning to the WH? No reason is being given

He forgot his froggy?

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 13, 2022 06:46 PM (11kd9)

45 ... the Eff.Bee.EYE will be there in an hour, after they've finished their donuts and coffee.

Then they'll shoot the hostage.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

But not before they shoot your dog.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 13, 2022 06:46 PM (M9XmQ)

46 "Show me the man and I will find a crime."

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at September 13, 2022 06:47 PM (guGkK)

47 Going to have to take a walk and think about puppies and kittens.

Posted by: Javems at September 13, 2022 06:47 PM (AmoqO)

48 Neither surprised or shocked. You had to be asleep to not see this coming under the Barky regime.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2022 06:47 PM (an3PP)

49 17 You don't have to comply with a subpoena.
Posted by: Joe kidtoucher at September 13, 2022 06:41 PM (ZYwGu)

I'm no lawyer but I thought you have to have the subpoena quashed?

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 13, 2022 06:47 PM (oeVy+)

50 And has our brave GOP or all the "good ones" in the FBI and DoJ sprung into action yet to protest these gross constitutional violations?

Posted by: Ultra pj at September 13, 2022 06:47 PM (G1dq6)

51 Danchenko was on the FBI payroll? Mueller knew the whole time.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at September 13, 2022 06:48 PM (HMTci)

52
Dear Sir:
Yours of the 12th inst. at hand. Regrettably, I must decline your kind invitation to incriminate myself and accumulate large legal bills. I trust a simple "No" will suffice for all present and future correspondence.

Truly I am, Sir, your faithful servant,
Anyone with a brain in his head

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 13, 2022 06:48 PM (1Nxff)

53 >>> 43 Its this kind of crap that makes me wonder if we'll even have an election in '24. They are going balls to the wall commie.
Posted by: Fool Otto at September 13, 2022 06:46 PM (DB16e)

Barring SMOD or some other "black swan" event I think there *will* be 2024 elections, which will be even more super secure and honest than 2020 or 2022.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 13, 2022 06:48 PM (llON8)

54
Sure.

It's not about Trump having the dirt on the regime squirreled away at Mar-a-Lago, or an attempt to find it through these people since they've been hampered in that investigation, or whatever the grasping-at-straws hopium du jour is today.

That raid, and all of these subpoenas, are the police state flexing its muscles and terrorizing dissident figures. Just our corrupt regime being what it is.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 13, 2022 06:49 PM (oINRc)

55 Another lefty slogan

BBSC-Bring Back Star Chambers.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 13, 2022 06:49 PM (vH/6k)

56 If Biden really got the 194 million votes they would laugh through as many recounts as need be done.

Doing what they is exactly what one expects from a Junta because that is exactly what is always done after a coup-coup.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 13, 2022 06:49 PM (VSSOs)

57 Neither surprised or shocked. You had to be asleep to not see this coming under the Barky regime.

Yep.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 13, 2022 06:50 PM (Xrfse)

58 Given the recent events in the UK, King Ralph would be a good movie.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at September 13, 2022 06:50 PM (PiwSw)

59 They probably do his treatments in Delaware as no logs of visitors I hear are kept

Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2022 06:50 PM (k8B25)

60 Achtung, baby.

Posted by: wth at September 13, 2022 06:50 PM (v0R5T)

61 The DOJ also wants any documents about the rally, or the alternate electors, that were submitted to the congressional January 6 Committee, turned over to them.

Fuck you. Talk to Nancy

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at September 13, 2022 06:50 PM (NW9xb)

62 I haven't been to the comments section in a few days but I'm assuming that you fellers have discussed how the Federal Bureau of Intimidation has apparently been watching comments sections lately.

They flagged a comment at Gateway Pundit, sent out a bulletin about it as if it were an actual threat.

So anywho, related to that: I don't think I'll be commenting much on this thread, because I don't want to say something stupid.

And I'm at a loss for what else to say about this stuff. Just stupid things, left best unsaid.

Posted by: Pastafarian at September 13, 2022 06:51 PM (sgHEm)

63 And the Junta waits until now because rounding opposition and executing them immediately after the coup-coup would be too obvious.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 13, 2022 06:51 PM (VSSOs)

64
The issue could be that if they don’t comply they will simply arrest them and haul them into a federal detention center. Who is going to stop them now? A charge can be manufactured no doubt.
Posted by: kraken at September 13, 2022 06:44 PM (Vr12I)

__________

And their MSM cheerleaders will say, "See how serious these charges are? They hauled them into Federal detention!"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 13, 2022 06:51 PM (1Nxff)

65 They just seized Mike Lindell's phone... I cannot believe that is an actual statement of fact. This whole mess is gonna backfire so hard on the Left...

Posted by: NeverBiden at September 13, 2022 06:51 PM (eIGHH)

66 The Marxists are probably hoping a real Insurrection happens before 2024 as to Void a election

Posted by: Skip at September 13, 2022 06:51 PM (k8B25)

67 By this standard every moron here ~~should~~ might be searched and have their Internet equipment impounded.
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Edited, and, yes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2022 06:52 PM (X1qOg)

68 Why is Biden making an unscheduled, 1 hour trip to Delaware tonight and then returning to the WH? No reason is being given.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2022 06:44 PM (ZLI7S)

Quickie?

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at September 13, 2022 06:52 PM (NW9xb)

69 Whoever is mopping up Joe's spittle must have steady work.

Posted by: Dreaded Rightwing Menace at September 13, 2022 06:52 PM (aoFfE)

70 I had Fox News on yesterday and he made an interesting point on the five.

He was talking about how after 9/11 the left rushed to represent the terrorists, pro bono mind you and kept repeating not all Muslims are terrorists are were up in arms about a backlash.

It's such a simple point, I'm surprised one of the morons or Ace didn't point out the left's continued hypocrisy. (Someone probably did make the point and I missed it, apologies in advance).
They really hate us worse than the terrorists.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 13, 2022 06:52 PM (oeVy+)

71
Barring SMOD or some other "black swan" event I think there *will* be 2024 elections, which will be even more super secure and honest than 2020 or 2022.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 13, 2022 06:48 PM (llON

Of course there will be. The USSR held """elections""" straight through til 1989.

It's part of the shell-game, and it's more important here than it was there, because our regime pretends toward status as a legitimate Republic.

It's a sham, and most people know it's a sham, but the sham must go on.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 13, 2022 06:52 PM (oINRc)

72 States are NOT going to quit holding elections. Choose to vote or not. If you live in a drop box voting area, have a block party with 20 of your closest friends that have CCW.

Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2022 06:52 PM (an3PP)

73 Joe Biden, the Prometheus of Presidents?

Posted by: Darth Randall at September 13, 2022 06:52 PM (zL564)

74 19 Can subpoenas be lawfully issued on a whim, for no reason? Is this some ridiculous bad-faith extension of an "investigation" into the riot? Can't the targets tell the Feds to eff off?

Posted by: rhomboid
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Yes by going to court to quash the subpoenas. A slapdown here and there is likely by courts particularly in the Alabama case if pursued. Bunch of old McCarthy era and Civil Rights era precedents involving First Amendment rights. The DOJ has gone YOLO now and is trying to declare the executive branch above the courts.

Posted by: whig at September 13, 2022 06:52 PM (CXr4y)

75 70* He=Jesse Waters

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 13, 2022 06:52 PM (oeVy+)

76 Accidentally send the DOJ boxes of documents by Democrats about alternate electors from 2000. Whoops! Whoopsie!

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 13, 2022 06:52 PM (M9XmQ)

77 81 Million Xherved

Posted by: garrett at September 13, 2022 06:53 PM (FExT/)

78
Whoever is mopping up Joe's spittle must have steady work.
Posted by: Dreaded Rightwing Menace at September 13, 2022 06:52 PM (aoFfE)

__________

Imagine the aide with the pooper scooper.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 13, 2022 06:53 PM (1Nxff)

79 They just seized Mike Lindell's phone... I cannot believe that is an actual statement of fact.
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*?!*

WTF?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2022 06:53 PM (c8iAR)

80 "Then they'll shoot the hostage."
American hostage rescue team: "We saved 99 and lost 1. We can do better."
Russian hostage rescue team: "We saved 1 and lost 99. Mission was successful."

Posted by: PabloD at September 13, 2022 06:53 PM (fInTC)

81 They just seized Mike Lindell's phone...
.......

Hope they had their promo code handy.

Posted by: wth at September 13, 2022 06:53 PM (v0R5T)

82 I would assume that the NSA has already given the Stasi all the information they want, they just can't legally use it, hence the general warrants being issued.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 13, 2022 06:53 PM (T4RS9)

83 There is really nothing to stop them doing whatever they want to do. Politicians are terrified of the power of the Federal government. Private citizens have no power - they can be ruined by the government, at will. Where is the countervailing force to their totalitarianism??

Posted by: kraken at September 13, 2022 06:53 PM (Vr12I)

84 "This whole mess is gonna backfire so hard on the Left."

Right. Just like decades of abuse and decline, and a farcically integrity-free election, did.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 13, 2022 06:54 PM (OTzUX)

85 Charles III as head of state in the U.S. sounds better & better.

Posted by: aelfheld at September 13, 2022 06:54 PM (Zy9Yy)

86 Ken Starr died.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 13, 2022 06:54 PM (QSjkU)

87 >>They just seized Mike Lindell's phone...

They've been monitoring his calls to Ghiza.

Posted by: garrett at September 13, 2022 06:54 PM (FExT/)

88 Historically, there have been a number of contested elections... including back room deals by Congress critters.

The Congress HAS the authority to NOT validate vote results... and asking them to do so is NOT an insurrection, but asking it to use its legal Constitutional Power.

How can asking someone to use a Legal Power, be against the Law?

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 13, 2022 06:54 PM (oHd/0)

89 Why is Biden making an unscheduled, 1 hour trip to Delaware tonight and then returning to the WH? No reason is being given.

Posted by: JackStraw

Important meetings that avoid that pesky WH visitor's log. That's what I've read about these frequent trips, and it does make sense.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 13, 2022 06:55 PM (M9XmQ)

90 Joe Biden, the Prometheus of Presidents?
Posted by: Darth Randall
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Nero, but without musical talent.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2022 06:55 PM (c8iAR)

91 Holy shit Ben Domenech's eyes are just two narrow slits.

Eat a salad.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2022 06:55 PM (ZLI7S)

92 That raid, and all of these subpoenas, are the police state flexing its muscles and terrorizing dissident figures. Just our corrupt regime being what it is.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 13, 2022 06:49 PM (oINRc)

I agree with you there. Many keep looking for some deep meaning or plan here - nope, there isn't one. As you say, it's just a corrupt, banana republic regime being what it is.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 13, 2022 06:55 PM (trdmm)

93 The ascension of Toonces is when the red alert really went off for me. The Clintoons paved the way but with Barky, I could see where "fundamental change" was going to take us.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 13, 2022 06:55 PM (Xrfse)

94 >>> 88 Historically, there have been a number of contested elections... including back room deals by Congress critters.

The Congress HAS the authority to NOT validate vote results... and asking them to do so is NOT an insurrection, but asking it to use its legal Constitutional Power.

How can asking someone to use a Legal Power, be against the Law?
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 13, 2022 06:54 PM (oHd/0)

That's a Grave Threat To Our Democracy!!!!!

Posted by: This... is XiNN at September 13, 2022 06:55 PM (llON8)

95 27 >>>

Experiencing buyers remorse on the train to detention camp is not irony. its just predictable consequence.

Posted by: Paul in Texas at September 13, 2022 06:55 PM (EG5bh)

96 >> Holy shit Ben Domenech's eyes are just two narrow slits.

He and Meghan must rut like Walrus.

Posted by: garrett at September 13, 2022 06:56 PM (FExT/)

97 They just seized Mike Lindell's phone...
........

Did they grab some coffee and sandals too?

Posted by: wth at September 13, 2022 06:56 PM (v0R5T)

98 Hope they had their promo code handy.
Posted by: wth

😂😂😂

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 13, 2022 06:56 PM (M9XmQ)

99 >>> 95 27 >>>

Experiencing buyers remorse on the train to detention camp is not irony. its just predictable consequence.
Posted by: Paul in Texas at September 13, 2022 06:55 PM (EG5bh)

If only Comrade Stalin knew!

Posted by: leftists at September 13, 2022 06:56 PM (llON8)

100 89 Why is Biden making an unscheduled, 1 hour trip to Delaware tonight and then returning to the WH? No reason is being given.

Posted by: JackStraw

His special drug cocktails ? Destroy incriminating files ?

Posted by: It's me donna at September 13, 2022 06:56 PM (bs+z0)

101 1 They just seized Mike Lindell's phone...
.......

Hope they had their promo code handy.

***
He guarantees it'll be the most comfortable phone you ever use.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 13, 2022 06:57 PM (RjWOi)

102 Why is Biden making an unscheduled, 1 hour trip to Delaware tonight and then returning to the WH?

WH confirmed it was for he and the doctor to vote.

Posted by: Squid at September 13, 2022 06:57 PM (m+w63)

103 I think the "it begins" guy is going to have to switch to "it's well underway" or something

Posted by: TexasDan at September 13, 2022 06:57 PM (Ni7GL)

104 19 Can subpoenas be lawfully issued on a whim, for no reason? Is this some ridiculous bad-faith extension of an "investigation" into the riot? Can't the targets tell the Feds to eff off?

Posted by: rhomboid

You can sue them to get stuff back.... but they are going to take whatever the hell they want...

Even going through your wives and Kids rooms. THEY HAVE SHOWN THIS.

They will confront you at an airport, and take your phone... so you CAN'T call your lawyer.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 13, 2022 06:57 PM (oHd/0)

105 When is the Supreme Court going to step in? This along with Jan 6 people being put in a gulag in front of a kangaroo court.

Trump really should have pardoned everyone, including himself, but I guess he didn't want to hurt his sky high approval ratings.

Posted by: Blago at September 13, 2022 06:57 PM (PwNLq)

106 They've been monitoring his calls to Ghiza.
Posted by: garrett
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That's it! The guy's into sheets. That justifies anything.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2022 06:57 PM (c8iAR)

107 Cicero and whig, thanks. I thought there was some redress but of course don't know the mechanics.

I assume there is the usual silence from those stalwart "conservatives" and sentries for the republic and rule of law, the GOP?

Posted by: rhomboid at September 13, 2022 06:57 PM (OTzUX)

108 102 Why is Biden making an unscheduled, 1 hour trip to Delaware tonight and then returning to the WH?

WH confirmed it was for he and the doctor to vote.
Posted by: Squid at September 13, 2022 06:57 PM (m+w63)

Quite the costly vote

Posted by: It's me donna at September 13, 2022 06:57 PM (bs+z0)

109 hiya

Posted by: JT at September 13, 2022 06:57 PM (T4tVD)

110 The “ Top Ten Commentors” list may not be such a gret idea.

Posted by: kraken at September 13, 2022 06:58 PM (Vr12I)

111 "This whole mess is gonna backfire so hard on the Left."

"Right. Just like decades of abuse and decline, and a farcically integrity-free election, did."

I take your point, but this is far more blatant overreach in broad daylight by a sitting administration. This honestly makes the McCarthy hearings look tame... the administration is obviously and clearly persecuting its political enemies.

Posted by: NeverBiden at September 13, 2022 06:58 PM (eIGHH)

112 TexasDan, lol

Posted by: rhomboid at September 13, 2022 06:58 PM (OTzUX)

113 He and Meghan must rut like Walrus.
Posted by: garrett

That felt unnecessary. I did not need that mental image.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at September 13, 2022 06:58 PM (Wy1BU)

114 Dow dropped nearly 1300 today

Oh SMOD, why do you tarry?

Posted by: Pleistocene Megafauna at September 13, 2022 06:58 PM (aoFfE)

115 >>> 107 Cicero and whig, thanks. I thought there was some redress but of course don't know the mechanics.

I assume there is the usual silence from those stalwart "conservatives" and sentries for the republic and rule of law, the GOP?

Posted by: rhomboid at September 13, 2022 06:57 PM (OTzUX)

Fatass Goldberg and Fatass Williamson are right now arguing about who gets credit for the "Conservative Case for Gestapo Tactics" editorial.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 13, 2022 06:58 PM (llON8)

116
Experiencing buyers remorse on the train to detention camp is not irony. its just predictable consequence.
Posted by: Paul in Texas at September 13, 2022 06:55 PM (EG5bh)

___________

Solzhenitsyn described a conversation on a prison train with a True Believer. Everyone else was guilty, but a mistake was made in their case that would be sorted out soon.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 13, 2022 06:59 PM (1Nxff)

117 The Biden Regime, if it was a foreign invader, would have been meet with Wolverine resistence. That is the frame I use put what they are doing into context. The Biden Regime is a skin suit that has been devouring the nation from the inside and when fully consumed that skin suit will rip apart. It is then when the virtual war he declared, on the half of the nation the Left wants dead, in Philadelphia gets real. That speech wasn't an abstraction, it was a plan to get to zero rules.

Posted by: Lost In Space at September 13, 2022 06:59 PM (XzBgg)

118 NeverBiden, you may well be right - obviously I hope so.

But last time I recall any electoral consequences for anything (bad, or stupid) was 2002. Past, different country, etc etc.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 13, 2022 06:59 PM (OTzUX)

119 I agree with you there. Many keep looking for some deep meaning or plan here - nope, there isn't one. As you say, it's just a corrupt, banana republic regime being what it is.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 13, 2022 06:55 PM (trdmm)

Worse, they are going after lawyers for giving legal advice to their client, because of who the client is.

How can you sue for redress, if no lawyer will represent you?

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 13, 2022 06:59 PM (oHd/0)

120 Congress has to validate the results yes?

This implies the possibility that they would not validate them?

Posted by: TexasDan at September 13, 2022 06:59 PM (Ni7GL)

121 That raid, and all of these subpoenas, are the police state flexing its muscles and terrorizing dissident figures. Just our corrupt regime being what it is.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
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Not really YD. If the regime had all that power, why wait until their situation has deteriorated. This is more typical of a floundering regime based on a coup that is losing political support. Same with Trump--why not simply arrest him on charges now rather than later.

For fun sometime, read up about how the Argentinian, Turkish, or Greek military coups slowly disintegrated into floundering crap.

Posted by: whig at September 13, 2022 06:59 PM (CXr4y)

122 They've been monitoring his calls to Ghiza.
Posted by: garrett
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That's it! The guy's into sheets. That justifies anything.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2022 06:57 PM

And you know who else was into sheets?!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 13, 2022 07:00 PM (asZuX)

123 How can you sue for redress, if no lawyer will represent you?
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 13, 2022 06:59 PM

Citizen, you have the right to represent yourself.

- The Junta

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 13, 2022 07:01 PM (asZuX)

124 >>WH confirmed it was for he and the doctor to vote.

So we finally found the only Democrat in America who can't vote absentee.

Not buying it.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2022 07:01 PM (ZLI7S)

125 Ken Starr died.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 13, 2022 06:54 PM (QSjkU)

Hillary took her time with him

Posted by: Kim Kardassian at September 13, 2022 07:01 PM (M+Lyo)

126 I watched tucker's monologue last night... Scary stuff.. I hope he has good security

Posted by: It's me donna at September 13, 2022 07:01 PM (bs+z0)

127 I really should get out to the garage and load some 45ACP.

Not for the "civil war" that's not coming, you excitable scamps, but because my cans are nearly empty, and I've got range duty day and then a match later this week.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 13, 2022 07:01 PM (OTzUX)

128 29 Why is Biden making an unscheduled, 1 hour trip to Delaware tonight and then returning to the WH? No reason is being given.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2022 06:44 PM (ZLI7S)

He's meeting with Hunter to pick up his ten percent.

Posted by: creeper at September 13, 2022 07:01 PM (cTCuP)

129 81 They just seized Mike Lindell's phone...
Hope they had their promo code handy.
Posted by: wth at September 13, 2022 06:53 PM (v0R5T)

*snort

Posted by: April--dash my lace wigs! at September 13, 2022 07:02 PM (OX9vb)

130 124 >>WH confirmed it was for he and the doctor to vote.

So we finally found the only Democrat in America who can't vote absentee.

Not buying it.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2022 07:01 PM (ZLI7S)

Delaware has vote by mail... you don't even have to give a reason. This is an expensive photo op.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 13, 2022 07:02 PM (oHd/0)

131 They've been monitoring his calls to Ghiza

It's a terrible thing, but that was funny.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 13, 2022 07:02 PM (YsHH2)

132
I take your point, but this is far more blatant overreach in broad daylight by a sitting administration. This honestly makes the McCarthy hearings look tame... the administration is obviously and clearly persecuting its political enemies.
Posted by: NeverBiden
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Exception!

I found no overreach in the HUAC hearings.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2022 07:02 PM (nVDxD)

133 120 Congress has to validate the results yes?

This implies the possibility that they would not validate them?
Posted by: TexasDan at September 13, 2022 06:59 PM (Ni7GL)

And has done so in more than one election.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 13, 2022 07:03 PM (oHd/0)

134 The illusion of freedom will continue as long as it's profitable to continue the illusion. At the point where the illusion becomes too expensive to maintain, they will just take down the scenery, they will pull back the curtains, they will move the tables and chairs out of the way and you will see the brick wall at the back of the theater.

Posted by: Stuff Zappa Said at September 13, 2022 07:03 PM (sn5EN)

135
Solzhenitsyn described a conversation on a prison train with a True Believer. Everyone else was guilty, but a mistake was made in their case that would be sorted out soon.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 13, 2022 06:59 PM (1Nxff)

That's terrifying. This is why some days I have to unplug and go get some flakes and feed some critters.

Posted by: CaliGirl at September 13, 2022 07:03 PM (oeVy+)

136 We are lucky they passed the Inflation Reduction Act. If that law was not passed inflation would be 25% by now. We dodged a bullet .............

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at September 13, 2022 07:04 PM (4eN6q)

137 87 >>They just seized Mike Lindell's phone...They've been monitoring his calls to Ghiza.
Posted by: garrett at September 13, 2022 06:54 PM (FExT/)

If he sells creamy sheets, you must defeat.

Posted by: Splunge at September 13, 2022 07:04 PM (cm/80)

138 I remember when Mike Lindell first started advertising and the Comments were always filled with Mike Lindell Socks yelling:

BUY MY FUCKING PILLOW

Posted by: garrett at September 13, 2022 07:04 PM (FExT/)

139 David French
@DavidAFrench

2h
Getting the new COVID booster and the flu vaccine today. I’m going to have so many microchips in my blood that I’m basically a human iPhone.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 13, 2022 07:06 PM (NpAcC)

140 >>If he sells creamy sheets, you must defeat.

Better those than the Andrew Gillum Collection.

Posted by: garrett at September 13, 2022 07:06 PM (FExT/)

141 Trump really should have pardoned everyone, including himself, but I guess he didn't want to hurt his sky high approval ratings.

Posted by: Blago
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Give it a rest Blago. Your Trump derangement is tiresome and boring.

For a pardon to be made, you have to specify who it applies to--you cannot wave a magic wand and pardon everybody. The closest is Carter's pardon of Vietnam draft evaders. That was a specific group that could be named and a specific offense. The Ford pardon of Nixon was where the person was named and the pardon was for whatever crimes that Nixon committed in the White House. Once again limited as to person and set of crimes.

In the case of J 6, Trump had neither a definite set of people nor a definite list of crimes that might have been committed. During the remaining 13 days or so, it would have been literally impossible to locate and find the people, let alone determine all the offenses.

Posted by: whig at September 13, 2022 07:06 PM (CXr4y)

142 "Waco" was a Two Way Shooting Range, all as a result of the ATF choosing to violently "serve" a rancid mess of a Search Warrant.

Koresh's "theology" and persona were likely as bugnuts crazy as advertised, but his reasoning to establish on isolated ground with clear fields of fire, was sound.

Pray for Peace. Prepare for...well, just, prepare. I really REALLY would prefer to die just of olde age and boredom.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 13, 2022 07:07 PM (tkOps)

143
And you know who else was into sheets?!
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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Look...I'm dead, okay? Leave it alone.

Posted by: Robert Byrd (D), Grand Kleagle, Conscience of the Senate, Grand Kleagle at September 13, 2022 07:07 PM (edjZf)

144 88 Historically, there have been a number of contested elections... including back room deals by Congress critters.

The Congress HAS the authority to NOT validate vote results... and asking them to do so is NOT an insurrection, but asking it to use its legal Constitutional Power.

How can asking someone to use a Legal Power, be against the Law?

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 13, 2022 06:54 PM (oHd/0)

The key question is not that one, it's can a Trump associate possibly be found not guilty in a bench or jury trial in the District of Columbia, for anything, including impersonating a ham sandwich?

Posted by: Gref at September 13, 2022 07:07 PM (AMIL/)

145 I think a good sock would be "Mike Lindell's Bobbing Adam's Apple."

Posted by: Frasier Crane at September 13, 2022 07:07 PM (8VW1P)

146 Why is Biden making an unscheduled, 1 hour trip to Delaware tonight and then returning to the WH? No reason is being given.

===

Needs to pick up some soil...

Posted by: runner at September 13, 2022 07:07 PM (V13WU)

147 Maybe this is what the gop should be focusing on instead of abortion. Just spitballing here.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 13, 2022 07:08 PM (IrNVV)

148 I'm guessing questioning the king is automatic targeting for harassment by the feebs.

I'm guessing donations are also a list people are now on.

Goebbels blushed.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 13, 2022 07:08 PM (ahGLX)

149 This is more typical of a floundering regime based on a coup that is losing political support. Same with Trump--why not simply arrest him on charges now rather than later.
Whig

Whig, I'm inclined to agree.
I seriously wonder if the left has been drinking their own koolaide fo so long they genuinely believe this BS. And in trying to implement there police activities, are running smack into the real law and real constitution. Hence the keystone cops routine.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 13, 2022 07:08 PM (RjWOi)

150 140 >>If he sells creamy sheets, you must defeat.
Better those than the Andrew Gillum Collection.
Posted by: garrett at September 13, 2022 07:06 PM (FExT/)

Eew. Say, how's his political comeback coming along?

Posted by: Splunge at September 13, 2022 07:08 PM (cm/80)

151 Let's see how it plays out.

Posted by: Senator Tim Scott at September 13, 2022 07:09 PM (H8QX8)

152 The Biden Junta seems determined to force us to choose Trump in 2024.

Posted by: Splunge at September 13, 2022 07:09 PM (cm/80)

153 Dow dropped nearly 1300 today

So let's celebrate!

Posted by: Joe Schmuck at September 13, 2022 07:09 PM (v0R5T)

154 Senile Nazi Joe and his Gestapo.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 13, 2022 07:09 PM (eGTCV)

155 Has anyone considered the possibility that our opponents are just either senile or really stupid?

Posted by: Splunge at September 13, 2022 07:10 PM (cm/80)

156 Right - the bit about congressional certification of the election. If the process exists, then inherent in it is the possibility/function of *not* certifying the election. Duh.

That's the irony and dilemma of presidential elections. The electoral structure is brilliant in many ways, not least in that, for its era, it was a guard-rail against fraud. And unlike other federal elections, the entire mechanism here is specified in the constitution, and entirely within the political (elected) branches. No courts (at the federal level, only to referee in-state issues).

whig will probably know - has there ever been a congressional rejection of a presidential election? I don't think so, certainly at least none in recent or modern times.

Thus the general ignorance about the process - it has become a pro forma one. But it wasn't created as an empty exercise, it was part of the design to safeguard, or at least provide accountable leverage, on the presidential election process.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 13, 2022 07:10 PM (OTzUX)

157 It sucks where I live- all these stories are from the same day on the local news website

34 drownings, 2 other deaths make this year deadliest

Colorado suicide rate at record high

83-year-old woman killed crossing street

Suspect identified in Arvada officer’s killing

Colorado violent crime rising, but not prosecutions

Posted by: DB at September 13, 2022 07:10 PM (geLO8)

158 Some of us have relatively little to lose to the junta. I'm pretty old and I have no one depending on me for their survival. I've decided that for as long as my courage holds out, I will not be intimidated by the police state. I'm going to speak out whenever and wherever I have the opportunity to do so. I never before in my life even considered the possibility that I could spend time in federal prison. Now it doesn't seem far-fetched at all.

If we lose to these cocksuckers, it won't be long before they start killing us.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at September 13, 2022 07:11 PM (sWM8x)

159 Oh so Biden is totally desperate and stuff right? When we are walking into the gas chambers some of youwill still be convinced they are desperate and about to lose power.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 13, 2022 07:11 PM (IrNVV)

160 Can you imagine being the agent assigned to monitor Mike Lindell's phone calls?

"Fuckin pillows n shit goddammit yeah comfortable my ass ... guy is driving me nuts"

Posted by: wth at September 13, 2022 07:11 PM (v0R5T)

161
I seriously wonder if the left has been drinking their own koolaide fo so long they genuinely believe this BS.
--------

Yes, yes they do. Most street-level Liberals have been so inculcated that their psyches will not process any facts or data that contradict the narrative that has been installed in their heads,

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2022 07:13 PM (ZlD3b)

162 Meade Lux Lewis at 158 -- watch your cornhole, dude.

Posted by: Pastafarian at September 13, 2022 07:13 PM (sgHEm)

163 Wonder if anyone was taking this seriously.

I swear to support and defend the Constitution of the United States…and bear true faith and allegiance to the same

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 13, 2022 07:14 PM (ahGLX)

164 The center cannot hold

Posted by: DB at September 13, 2022 07:14 PM (geLO8)

165 https://twitter.com /buitengebieden/status/ 1569566224874618881?s=20&t=spLyROFdV2jqUAi1faKjiA

Remove spaces. Best boat horn ever

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 13, 2022 07:14 PM (KDbie)

166 When you stop using your brain for thinking, all things are possible.

Posted by: David French at September 13, 2022 07:14 PM (cm/80)

167 The stories out of PA about law firms being intimidated into shying away from repping the Trump campaign in the post-election legal action were sickening, and chilling. Got some color from a friend who's fairly high up in a pretty important firm. He was pretty gobsmacked too.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 13, 2022 07:15 PM (OTzUX)

168
Honey. That brown shirt looks to good on you.

Posted by: Dr Jill Eva Braun Biden at September 13, 2022 07:15 PM (+oR7L)

169 Breaking News:
Mike Lindell arrested for comfortable stuff and tax evasion.

Posted by: wth at September 13, 2022 07:15 PM (v0R5T)

170 Has anyone considered the possibility that our opponents are just either senile or really stupid?
Posted by: Splunge
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Not so much stupid, as brainwashed.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2022 07:15 PM (ZlD3b)

171 Salty Cracker said that Tucker Carlson also received a federal subpoena.

Posted by: mrp at September 13, 2022 07:16 PM (6eRlp)

172 Oh SMOD, why do you tarry?
Posted by: Pleistocene Megafauna at September 13, 2022 06:58 PM (aoFfE)

Send us thine asteroid, O Lord

tinyurl.com/2rewew8r

*goes to youtube

Posted by: April--dash my lace wigs! at September 13, 2022 07:16 PM (OX9vb)

173 159 Oh so Biden is totally desperate and stuff right? When we are walking into the gas chambers some of youwill still be convinced they are desperate and about to lose power.

Posted by: Joe XiDen
------------------
You will be denying that you ever were a conservative most likely.

Posted by: whig at September 13, 2022 07:16 PM (CXr4y)

174 >>> 172 Oh SMOD, why do you tarry?
Posted by: Pleistocene Megafauna at September 13, 2022 06:58 PM (aoFfE)

Send us thine asteroid, O Lord

tinyurl.com/2rewew8r

*goes to youtube

Posted by: April--dash my lace wigs! at September 13, 2022 07:16 PM (OX9vb)

*fistbump*

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 13, 2022 07:17 PM (llON8)

175 -------
Not so much stupid, as brainwashed.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2022 07:15 PM (ZlD3b)
================

Really pushy

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 13, 2022 07:17 PM (QAU+L)

176 159 Oh so Biden is totally desperate and stuff right? When we are walking into the gas chambers some of youwill still be convinced they are desperate and about to lose power.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 13, 2022 07:11 PM (IrNVV)

I admit this is a serious point, however couched in bile.

When they have gone full nutso, how do we know they will lose elections? Maybe their fascist strategy will pay off?

I don't have an answer. If the elections are honest, and a majority of us (well, not us) vote for that crap, then I guess we suffer and decline.

I still have plenty of hope that that's not the case. But I haven't polled 100 million voters or anything.

Posted by: Splunge at September 13, 2022 07:18 PM (cm/80)

177 Biden and his people are absolutely convinced Republicans will do nothing to stop him. He knows 90% of them hate Trump as much as they do.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 13, 2022 07:18 PM (H8QX8)

178 The center cannot hold
Posted by: DB at September 13, 2022 07:14 PM (geLO

Oh, the center will hold. The right flank will hold. The left flank will hold, too. The Dems are watching the clock and the clock sez "Dems, time's up."

Posted by: mrp at September 13, 2022 07:19 PM (6eRlp)

179 >>The stories out of PA about law firms being intimidated into shying away from repping the Trump campaign in the post-election legal action were sickening, and chilling. Got some color from a friend who's fairly high up in a pretty important firm. He was pretty gobsmacked too.

That's a big part of why they are doing this. They are trying to make it toxic to support or work for Trump.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2022 07:19 PM (ZLI7S)

180 177 Biden and his people are absolutely convinced Republicans will do nothing to stop him. He knows 90% of them hate Trump as much as they do.
Posted by: Ordinary American at September 13, 2022 07:18 PM (H8QX

Probably true, within the confines of Washington DC and Arlington.

In America, less true.

Posted by: Splunge at September 13, 2022 07:19 PM (cm/80)

181 If they come to FL to arrest Trump will he go peacefully?

If he resists will DeSantis defend him?

What will the Fed do if DeSantis defends Trump?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 13, 2022 07:20 PM (QAU+L)

182 Check out The 65 Project https://the65project.com

David Brock and friends are filing ethics complaints against each of the lawyers who tried to help Trump. Supposedly 'bipartisan'.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at September 13, 2022 07:21 PM (sJA0U)

183 Biden just flew home to Delaware ...TO VOTE...and then return to the WH an hour later.

*types furiously and deletes*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 13, 2022 07:22 PM (ptqGC)

184 They will cheat to win in November and this shit will only get worse.

There's no out.

Who is on our side with any real power? No one. Not a soul, not a corporation, there's nothing.

And meanwhile they have the all powerful state with the all powerful weapons, and the media, the academy, the corporations, all on their side.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at September 13, 2022 07:22 PM (jEVU+)

185 "Remove spaces." Learn to use tinyurl. It's not all that hard.

https://tinyurl.com/yc7dumjj

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at September 13, 2022 07:22 PM (1DgE4)

186 Whig, I'm inclined to agree.
I seriously wonder if the left has been drinking their own koolaide fo so long they genuinely believe this BS. And in trying to implement there police activities, are running smack into the real law and real constitution. Hence the keystone cops routine. Posted by: Diogenes
------------------
Dunno if you ever followed the Lawfare blog at Brookings which is where a lot of this shit was cooked up. Ditto in Wisconsin during the John Doe raids by Wisconsin Election Commission during the Walker era of government.

Basically, law schools have been teaching a perverted view of the law for some time that law is oppression generally and what matters normatively is who it oppresses. Believed haves in society are fine to oppress, minorities not so much. Now, your position in the oppression hierarchy is what determines whether the oppression by law and law enforcement is justified.

Posted by: whig at September 13, 2022 07:22 PM (CXr4y)

187 It's such a simple point, I'm surprised one of the morons or Ace didn't point out the left's continued hypocrisy. (Someone probably did make the point and I missed it, apologies in advance).
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Sort of in a 1:31 video...

Media Research Center @theMRC
The media when the FBI raided Trump's home vs. the media when Hillary Clinton allegedly stored classified information on her private email server

https://twitter.com/theMRC/status/
1569713891835256834

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at September 13, 2022 07:22 PM (yikp0)

188 The Dems are not only trying to outlaw the Republican party, they are also launching a full-scale attack on the federal judiciary and the justice system.

Posted by: mrp at September 13, 2022 07:23 PM (6eRlp)

189 Yes, yes they do. Most street-level Liberals have been so inculcated that their psyches will not process any facts or data that contradict the narrative that has been installed in their heads,
Posted by: Mike Hammer,

I have seen several discussion on how Trump is planning to sell nuclear secrets to the Russians.
I read the Left side of the internet to see if their arguments make any sense, and they are all bat shit crazy. I have spent hours running down theories that all based on nothing. Yet they believe them with all their heart.

Posted by: Tuco Ramirez at September 13, 2022 07:24 PM (09d3a)

190 f-ing sock

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 13, 2022 07:24 PM (09d3a)

191 I caught a glance of what you typed, Jane, just before you could delete it.

Yep. I'm right there with you.

Posted by: Pastafarian at September 13, 2022 07:24 PM (sgHEm)

192 sounds like Joe strip a bolt today

as mad as he gets when he speaks, I'm not surprised

Posted by: REDACTED at September 13, 2022 07:24 PM (us2H3)

193 I have zero gut feeling about the whole "desperate vs. rampaging" thing. No clear evidence for me of either.

Though I think the burden of proof (well, "proof" for half-assed amateur speculation, I guess) is asymmetrical here.

Indifference to norms, arrogance, lawlessness, authoritarian impulses, hate - these are all long established traits of the people we're talking about (not really hyperbole, sadly). So their current behavior is perfectly "normal", for them.

And given that the GOP simply doesn't care - anything directed at Trump or his supporters elicits zero reaction, or only the most comical shadow-puppet reaction, from the GOP - not sure what "they" would be desperate about.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 13, 2022 07:24 PM (OTzUX)

194 >>If they come to FL to arrest Trump will he go peacefully?

Arrest him for what? Being orange without a license?

Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2022 07:24 PM (ZLI7S)

195 Dunno if you ever followed the Lawfare blog at Brookings which is where a lot of this shit was cooked up.

No. I haven't. I'll look it over.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 13, 2022 07:25 PM (RjWOi)

196 BBSC-Bring Back Star Chambers.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

they very most assuredly do not want that. it works both ways, just like tracers do.

Posted by: BifBewalski - @ (3CCua) at September 13, 2022 07:25 PM (3CCua)

197 I have seen several discussion on how Trump is planning to sell nuclear secrets to the Russians.
I read the Left side of the internet to see if their arguments make any sense, and they are all bat shit crazy. I have spent hours running down theories that all based on nothing. Yet they believe them with all their heart.
Posted by: Tuco Ramirez at September 13, 2022 07:24 PM

That's my sister and my husband's siblings and their hell spawn in a nutshell (no pun intended).

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 13, 2022 07:25 PM (ptqGC)

198 Doubting other peoples resolve or courage is just projection. In hard times, best to keep quiet in any case. Rabble rousing on the internet is stupid. You know who you are.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at September 13, 2022 07:25 PM (oWBc3)

199 Yes, Trump will go peacefully.

No, DeSantis won't do anything to defend him beyond some strong language.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 13, 2022 07:26 PM (H8QX8)

200 I caught a glance of what you typed, Jane, just before you could delete it.

Yep. I'm right there with you.
Posted by: Pastafarian at September 13, 2022 07:24 PM

*angry fistbump*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 13, 2022 07:26 PM (ptqGC)

201 @155 Splurge-Our opponents own all of our asses right now and are in control. For being stupid incompetent and without a plan they've done really well for themselves stealing a presidential election, thumbing their noses at us and now making it illegal to harbor the beliefs that we do. For the last 100 years they've marched through and grasped control of every institution and destroyed our families and culture.
If the left is so damn stupid what the hell does that make us besides standing around with our dicks in our hands hypothesizing how we can defeat an enemy that does not obey the law, has no check on their power, through voting and following the law ourselves?

Try getting into a fistfight with both your hands tied behind your back. Thats us(citizens) because we allow it. We allow the left to be invincible.

Posted by: JROD at September 13, 2022 07:26 PM (0jZnq)

202 Similarly, the Biden Administration is now subpoenaing records of a conservative political group in Alabama that helped craft a bill to prohibit doctors from performing transgender surgeries on children.

This happened, in a small way, during the Clinton Administration.

A small neighborhood group in Berkeley that was lobbying against the establishment of a halfway house in the neighborhood found itself with a Federal demand letter from a Clinton Administration official (also from Berkeley) demanding the organization's membership list, detailed finances, and a bunch of other stuff. The Clinton Administration eventually backed down.

I recall this was also done to a few other organizations.

Posted by: The Prize-Winning Writer Formerly Known As Allahpundit! at September 13, 2022 07:27 PM (I2/tG)

203 The great thing is, muh norms and dem0krasy Liz Cheney is totally fine with this.

That's how you know she was always full of doodie re: her concerns about Trump.

Posted by: Biscuits Mahoney at September 13, 2022 07:27 PM (OQuSz)

204 194 >>If they come to FL to arrest Trump will he go peacefully?

Arrest him for what? Being orange without a license?
Posted by: JackStraw
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Arresting Trump is no more illegal than any thing else that they are doing.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 13, 2022 07:27 PM (QAU+L)

205 I admit this is a serious point, however couched in bile.
Posted by: Splunge

NO, it isn't. It is based on a flawed comparison of the US v. Weimar Germany. If anything, it would have to be more something like the Khmer Rouge tried or the Chinese during the cultural Revolution. But, we don't have the yute bulge as in the cultural Revolution and the left does not have hardened guerilla fighters honed over decade of Civil War and armed by opponents either.

If anything, bad times would resemble the Spanish Civil War or Yugoslavia depending on whether opportunistic foreign countries play or not. It could end up like the end of the Hapsburg or USSR empires. Germany is not the only example of a country becoming authoritarian as there are loads of examples in S. Europe or Latin America if not the Middle East.

Posted by: whig at September 13, 2022 07:28 PM (CXr4y)

206 sounds like Joe strip a bolt today

as mad as he gets when he speaks, I'm not surprised
Posted by: REDACTED at September 13, 2022 07:24 PM (us2H3)
........

I'm waiting for the blown gasket

Posted by: wth at September 13, 2022 07:28 PM (v0R5T)

207 I'm so old I remember when the Dem party said America didn't lock up their political opponents and that was a good thing.

Posted by: Bete at September 13, 2022 07:28 PM (Tlfom)

208 So the J6 circus wants to drag Newt in for interrogation.

Will Melania and Barron be next?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 13, 2022 07:29 PM (ptqGC)

209 my guess is the DOJ/FBI is ginning this up as a bargaining chip with the GOP after the midterms

a cease fire of sorts

cuz they don't want any investigations into anything they have done

Posted by: REDACTED at September 13, 2022 07:29 PM (us2H3)

210 161
I seriously wonder if the left has been drinking their own koolaide fo so long they genuinely believe this BS.
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Yes, yes they do. Most street-level Liberals have been so inculcated that their psyches will not process any facts or data that contradict the narrative that has been installed in their heads,

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2022 07:13 PM (ZlD3b)

The street-level Liberals have been brainwashed to believe that if they adhere to the Holy Proclamations and Directives From The Narrative Givers, and vote Democrat, they are virtuous and on the side of the Angels (celebrities, the Twitterati, Obama, AOC, and Rachel Maddow). Further, anything they do or cause to be done to Non Believers is always virtuous, never bad.

Posted by: Gref at September 13, 2022 07:29 PM (AMIL/)

211 whig, among the small tidbits that are most sickening - amidst the ocean of depressing and stunning info and newz for so long now - have been some insights into the alien freakshows that some law schools have become. Sometimes it's indirect - as when Yale Law students "strike" or something to "protest" some war on terror policy they understand no better than a hamster does. Sometimes direct, when a particularly lurid and insane snippet being "taught" by a professor is made public somehow.

So, along with a generally miseducated/brainwashed populace thanks to the collapse of general education, a pipeline of authoritarian alien Little Himmlers from the law skoolz.

Excellent!

Posted by: rhomboid at September 13, 2022 07:29 PM (OTzUX)

212 Arrest him for what? Being orange without a license?
Posted by: JackStraw
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Organizing a parade, which if it doesn't carry a Pride flag or BLM signs is about the most traitorous thing someone can do.

Posted by: Bete at September 13, 2022 07:30 PM (Tlfom)

213 whig will probably know - has there ever been a congressional rejection of a presidential election? I don't think so, certainly at least none in recent or modern times."

The 1876 election was a complete clusterfark with competing sets of electors; finally settled by a brokered deal to end reconstruction in exchange for letting ol' Rutherfraud take the presidency.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 13, 2022 07:30 PM (r46W7)

214 as I've said before, if the dems keep the House and take the Senate, it's pretty much all over. might as well move to Israel and wait for the Iranian missiles.

Posted by: mallfly the peach of Hoboken at September 13, 2022 07:30 PM (Ynyl9)

215 >>They just seized Mike Lindell's phone...

Whole bunch of FIBs with new slides.

Posted by: Aviator at September 13, 2022 07:30 PM (HQ9Sl)

216 Just say no. Biden told us to shoot a shotgun through the front door, and so I say we do what the CinC tells us to do.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at September 13, 2022 07:31 PM (EHSip)

217 204 194 >>If they come to FL to arrest Trump will he go peacefully?

Arrest him for what? Being orange without a license?
Posted by: JackStraw

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They are making it up as they go along but they seem to be congealing on the idea that proposing alternative elector slates is itself insurrection and thus any activity hiding that would be obstruction. I don't think that they can make that turkey fly long enough but it may all be based on simply getting through the midterms by exciting the base with apparent activity. They have already spent their wad on policy more or less for this term and if a financial crisis like often happens in Sept. occurs then they are up a certain creek without a paddle.

Posted by: whig at September 13, 2022 07:31 PM (CXr4y)

218 But no mean tweets!

* sips oaked Napa Chardonnay *

Posted by: Kareny McKarenface at September 13, 2022 07:32 PM (a3Q+t)

219 If they come to FL to arrest Trump will he go peacefully?

Arrest him for what? Being orange without a license?
Posted by: JackStraw

Take your pick. It hardly matters anymore.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 13, 2022 07:32 PM (H8QX8)

220 Where is our Lech Walesa? We need someone pushing everyone to strike with some clear goals. I don't even know what all the goals are. My short list would include:

release all J6 prisoners on their own recognizance
Garland must be impeached
We need elections that the UN watchers would say are fair. 1-2 day in person voting with purple ink or something on that order.

Yeah, I'm ignoring the senile pervert. I want some of the key puppet masters cut away, I think that is more important.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at September 13, 2022 07:32 PM (3cGpq)

221 "When you put your hand, into a bunch of goo, that a moment before was your best friend's face... you'll know what to do."

from Patton (1970)

this comment for entertainment purposes only

Posted by: DB at September 13, 2022 07:32 PM (geLO8)

222 >>Arresting Trump is no more illegal than any thing else that they are doing.

Arresting the former POTUS and soon to be Republican nominee in 2024 is a bit different that subpoenaing records and cell phones from his supporters. You still have to at least have a plausible charge and Trump hasn't broken any laws.

Unless they are planning to go full martial law I don't see arresting Trump working any better for them than the boneheaded raid which has not worked in their favor. Sure, their smooth brained base is hooting like the apes in 2001 when they saw the obelisk but most of the country is not buying this crap.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2022 07:32 PM (ZLI7S)

223 215 >>They just seized Mike Lindell's phone...

Whole bunch of FIBs with new slides.
Posted by: Aviator at September 13, 2022 07:30 PM (HQ9Sl)

FBI wanted the secret Promo codes.... you know, the ones he advertised on TV, ON CONSERVATIVE CHANNELS.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 13, 2022 07:33 PM (oHd/0)

224 209 my guess is the DOJ/FBI is ginning this up as a bargaining chip with the GOP after the midterms

a cease fire of sorts

cuz they don't want any investigations into anything they have done
Posted by: REDACTED at September 13, 2022 07:29 PM (us2H3)

The GOP wants the Hobbits to shut up and know their place at least as much as the Dems do. This won't stop just because a couple Rs are elected as long as Mitch and McCarthy (and their ilk) lead their parts of Congress.

Posted by: Bete at September 13, 2022 07:33 PM (Tlfom)

225 But no mean tweets!

* sips oaked Napa Chardonnay *
Posted by: Kareny McKarenface at September 13, 2022 07:32 PM (a3Q+t)
........

*tastes like cardboard*

Posted by: wth at September 13, 2022 07:34 PM (v0R5T)

226 Thought crimes ! Opinion crimes ! Bullshit.

Posted by: runner at September 13, 2022 07:34 PM (V13WU)

227 Tom Servo right, and thanks, I had just remembered 1876. But that was the last such election settled in Congress, I think.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 13, 2022 07:34 PM (OTzUX)

228 The 1876 election was a complete clusterfark with competing sets of electors; finally settled by a brokered deal to end reconstruction in exchange for letting ol' Rutherfraud take the presidency.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 13, 2022 07:30 PM (r46W7)

and the north was pretty pissed off about ending it

and they still are and are trying reinstall it even today

Posted by: REDACTED at September 13, 2022 07:34 PM (us2H3)

229 cuz they don't want any investigations into anything they have done
Posted by: REDACTED at September 13, 2022 07:29 PM (us2H3)

Which is why they took out Flynn at the beginning of the Trump administration. He KNEW where the bodies were buried....

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 13, 2022 07:34 PM (oHd/0)

230 Had to actually got to the Fox site to see Tucker's piece. Mind officially blown.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 13, 2022 07:35 PM (Xrfse)

231 213 whig will probably know - has there ever been a congressional rejection of a presidential election? I don't think so, certainly at least none in recent or modern times."

The 1876 election was a complete clusterfark with competing sets of electors; finally settled by a brokered deal to end reconstruction in exchange for letting ol' Rutherfraud take the presidency.

Posted by: Tom Servo

The 1876 election comes the closest but it was more or less one state, not multiples. The 1824 election was sent to the House for resolution. In a sense, you could say that the 1860 election might be the closest. Lincoln did not receive a single electoral vote in the South and some of the Southern states had already left the Union before the electoral college met and their representatives/Senators leaving to join the Confederacy well before Lincoln was inaugurated in March of 1861 to a smaller Union of States.

Posted by: whig at September 13, 2022 07:35 PM (CXr4y)

232
they very most assuredly do not want that. it works both ways, just like tracers do.
Posted by: BifBewalski
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And the guillotine, but these people have never studied history...at all.

Posted by: Robespierre at September 13, 2022 07:35 PM (eeF+6)

233 re 202: I remember that, like the mid 1990s, people objecting to a halfway house for druggies and alcoholics in the neighborhood they were trying to revive. I recall someone from the Clinton Admin saying that the First Amendment guarantees about free speech and the right to Peacefully object to gov't policies didn't outway the rights of the druggies and alkies.

Posted by: mallfly the peach of Hoboken at September 13, 2022 07:35 PM (Ynyl9)

234 What the hell happened to Hunter? They disappeared him like a crack baby.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 13, 2022 07:35 PM (w2Z7l)

235 A Neil Oliver utube which is very good, and very appropriate for this Thread:

https://youtu.be/gV1Edqv_wk0

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 13, 2022 07:35 PM (a3Q+t)

236 States are NOT going to quit holding elections. Choose to vote or not. If you live in a drop box voting area, have a block party with 20 of your closest friends that have CCW.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2022 06:52 PM (an3PP)

The Feds are going to quit holding elections either. It is that voting doesn't matter. We get the same policies regardless. That's if the election is not fortified. Oh, and yeah, try to stand near a drop box armed. Have fun in a Fed jail for the next 20 years.

Posted by: WiNO at September 13, 2022 07:35 PM (EpDzw)

237 >Sure, their smooth brained base is hooting like the apes in 2001 when they saw the obelisk but most of the country is not buying this crap.

Posted by: JackStraw

most of the country seems content to just watch, seems like

Posted by: DB at September 13, 2022 07:36 PM (geLO8)

238 Tom, I am excluding the 1800 election because the 12th Amendment had not be adopted yet but if Hamilton had not blocked Burr, the Federalists could have very well put Burr in the WH with Jefferson supporters feeling like Andrew Jackson did in 1824 but worse.

Posted by: whig at September 13, 2022 07:36 PM (CXr4y)

239 >>> Sure, their smooth brained base is hooting like the apes in 2001 when they saw the obelisk but most of the country is not buying this crap.
Posted by: JackStraw
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You are arguing that they won't because it's ridiculous.
OK, I think it's ridiculous too.

My question was speculative. If they do come to arrest him. Your response was not an answer to the question.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 13, 2022 07:36 PM (QAU+L)

240 Can you imagine how hard they are leaning on Carlson? He's the most visible tip of the spear since Rush.

Posted by: pawn at September 13, 2022 07:36 PM (wsHtO)

241 Lincoln was inaugurated in March of 1861 to a smaller Union of States.
Posted by: whig
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Then the real fun began.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2022 07:37 PM (eeF+6)

242 Well, that escalated quickly

Posted by: Ron Burgandy at September 13, 2022 07:37 PM (JM96T)

243 today, someone told Brandon that the economy gonna crater next year, ending his delusion of running again

Posted by: REDACTED at September 13, 2022 07:37 PM (us2H3)

244 Thanks whig.

As the congressional portion has been pro forma (virtually unknown to most) for the lives of everyone breathing today, and their parents and grandparents now gone, it may be easy to rile up the ignorant by suggesting that anything other than a rubber stamp from Congress is insurrection-y.

One more example of an extinct civic culture, hollowed out by generational turn-over and the collapse of education.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 13, 2022 07:38 PM (OTzUX)

245 Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at

Tiny url is almost
Impossible on a phone and is blocked on company computer.

Posted by: nurse ratched at September 13, 2022 07:38 PM (tAqdW)

246 re 222: "Sure, their smooth brained base is hooting like the apes in 2001 when they saw the obelisk but most of the country is not buying this crap."

but as Moe said in one of the Stooges movies in which he played Hitler "I do not care what the people think!"

Dems only care what the 'people' think when it's to the Dems' benefit. Otherwise we don't mean crap to them. If polls showed that 90% of the people oppose the Green New Deal, the Dems will just call it something else and push on.

Posted by: mallfly the peach of Hoboken at September 13, 2022 07:39 PM (Ynyl9)

247 most of the country seems content to just watch, seems like

Posted by: DB at September 13, 2022 07:36 PM (geLO

We watched them Tar and Feather the Oath Keepers. An organization whose stated purpose was to support the Constitution. A group whose mantra was that their oath to protect and defend, had no expiration date.

They first destroyed their reputation, then went after them legally... Why? They were an actual threat.

We watched it happen in real time. AND the way the Jan 6 people have been treated, has scared a lot of folks into inaction.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 13, 2022 07:39 PM (oHd/0)

248 So, along with a generally miseducated/brainwashed populace thanks to the collapse of general education, a pipeline of authoritarian alien Little Himmlers from the law skoolz.

Excellent!

Posted by: rhomboid
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I am more afraid of woke graduates of West Point, Annapolis, etc.
I know many lawyers and like many lawyers but surviving very long in combat, particularly pear shaped situations like the Spanish civil war or Yugoslavia is not a situation where a lawyer is probably going to come out on top, Lenin is probably the exception to the rule plus maybe Mosby in the Civil War.

Posted by: whig at September 13, 2022 07:40 PM (CXr4y)

249 The 1876 election was a complete clusterfark with competing sets of electors; finally settled by a brokered deal to end reconstruction in exchange for letting ol' Rutherfraud take the presidency.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 13, 2022 07:30 PM (r46W7)

The loosey-goosey Electoral Vote Count rules we have now were codified in 1887 (yes,1887) by a law intended to avoid another 1876 caper. IIRC.

Posted by: Gref at September 13, 2022 07:40 PM (AMIL/)

250 the dims would actually be better off if the GOP takes the house

Posted by: REDACTED at September 13, 2022 07:40 PM (us2H3)

251 and don't blame Biden, he's still on his own planet looking for The Spice. Biden probably thinks that James Taylor invented pork sausage.

Posted by: mallfly the peach of Hoboken at September 13, 2022 07:41 PM (Ynyl9)

252 >>They are making it up as they go along but they seem to be congealing on the idea that proposing alternative elector slates is itself insurrection and thus any activity hiding that would be obstruction.

I think they planned on leaking and lying until the election to accomplish the energize the base mission. The special master put an end to that plan.

They have a couple flaws in their plan. The first is Biden. He can't even pretend to be competent and the idiotic Hell Speech was a disaster. They have energized our side more than theirs. The second is the Jan 6th committee, which is what this whole thing is about, is a flop.

People care about inflation, crime, illegal immigration and stuff that matters to them not this bullshit.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2022 07:41 PM (ZLI7S)

253 n00d cafe.

Posted by: Anon Y. Mous at September 13, 2022 07:41 PM (hVqGz)

254 @198 Indignacio Vindacatorem-You are right rabble rousing on the internet is stupid. We should be in the streets and camped out on these leftist assholes lawns peaceably assembling in protest by the thousands. That's the "rabble rousing" we should be doing.

As far as resolve and courage, actually taking action like peaceably assembling in protest, no I haven't because who in the hell would join me? Nobody would. I'm not going to be one of the only jerkoffs standing out there waiting to get jailed by LEO or a beaten by a mob of antifa. Our safety and effectiveness would be in numbers.
I'm not going to throw the word coward around, but it is obvious we are not willing to do what it takes to be seen and heard like the left does when they show up in the streets. I'm not talking burning shit down and yanking people out of their vehicles, I mean just showing up. Why don't we do this now? I don't know. Maybe not enough of us have that kind of spirit anymore and it has nothing to do with cowardice.

Posted by: JROD at September 13, 2022 07:41 PM (0jZnq)

255 also, Keith Olbermann is a twat who smells like his mother's laundry room.

Posted by: mallfly the peach of Hoboken at September 13, 2022 07:42 PM (Ynyl9)

256 183 Biden just flew home to Delaware ...TO VOTE...and then return to the WH an hour later.

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Guess Barky needed the Oval Office for a quickie.

Posted by: sharksauce at September 13, 2022 07:42 PM (vted1)

257 We watched them Tar and Feather the Oath Keepers. An organization whose stated purpose was to support the Constitution. A group whose mantra was that their oath to protect and defend, had no expiration date. Posted by: Romeo13
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Apparently, they and the Proud Boys were riddled with informants and agents provocateurs like Ray Epps on Jan 6th. The collapse happened within the organization as planned.

Posted by: whig at September 13, 2022 07:42 PM (CXr4y)

258 Lindell being boxed in at a Hardee's drive through today --by the FBI--who took Mike Lindell's phone.

The FBI and their maters believe there will never be an election that results in any oversight, accountability and corrective action ....nor prosecution for excessive use of force and other un -Constitutional actions.

Posted by: Voter theater. at September 13, 2022 07:42 PM (VoBcK)

259 There was an interesting article today on MSM, from like the Washington Post, that I was liberals bragging, but also showing their true motives.

It was something along the lines of "Papers found at Mar-A-Lago raid will doom Trump's lawsuit" But then the link lead to a blank article with just a picture of Trump. Guess they realized they f'd up and had to take out down in the WaPo end, but they didn't get the message to MSM.

All along some were saying how the the raid was all about recovering the documents to protect the FBI and Hillary from Trump's Russiagate lawsuit, WaPo accidentally said low part loud, in an attempt to brag how thre Dems stopped Trump's lawsuit, completely forgetting how they're admitting their crimes in the process.

Posted by: Rbastid at September 13, 2022 07:43 PM (oHjkl)

260 Arresting the former POTUS and soon to be Republican nominee in 2024 is a bit different that subpoenaing records and cell phones from his supporters. You still have to at least have a plausible charge and Trump hasn't broken any laws.

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"Seditious Conspiracy" -- they've already used it against J6 protesters. Implausible, no laws broken -- and used nonetheless.

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 13, 2022 07:43 PM (7TGq0)

261 Tucker goes into his weird little rage modes and I can only take about 10 minutes of him.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 13, 2022 07:43 PM (w2Z7l)

262 re 253: Keith Olbermann enjoys going to a nood cafe

Posted by: mallfly the peach of Hoboken at September 13, 2022 07:43 PM (Ynyl9)

263 It's a mystery to me, a very dark one, but it seems the country "buys" enough of the crap to have us end up where we are, in several senses. Indifference, distraction, ignorance - whatever. There have been several apparent voter revolts - 2002, 2010, 2016 - in recent times. The last was the most meaningful, and the reaction to it - like an immune system response, with every t-cell and anti-body and what-have-you in the system going berserk to weaken and neuter Trump, from even before his swearing in - of course remains stunning.

2002 was interesting and unique, as mid-term voters punished the Dems for their behavior not long after 9/11, and also perhaps some of the anti-incumbent dynamic was de-energized by the war-time situation/atmospherics. 2010, true revolt - totally (at the federal level) squashed and erased by the GOP.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 13, 2022 07:43 PM (OTzUX)

264 JROD,
Look up Irish democracy about how the Irish acted to defeat the Brits. Malicious compliance with the law is one such tool among others. Hell, you can infiltrate the left if you can swallow it and play double agent by simply agreeing and amplifying any idiotic idea.

Posted by: whig at September 13, 2022 07:44 PM (CXr4y)

265 Dr. Jill says she and Joe have not discussed Joe running again in 2024.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 13, 2022 07:44 PM (63Dwl)

266 "You are arguing that they won't because it's ridiculous."

That's never stopped them before. I think mainly they might be afraid of the response.

Posted by: fd at September 13, 2022 07:45 PM (sn5EN)

267 183 Biden just flew home to Delaware ...TO VOTE...and then return to the WH an hour later.

The flunkies in the White House are so incompetent they cannot plan ahead and request an absentee ballot for their boss? I would not be surprised. It would be yet another piece of evidence of the basic tasks incompetence of the Junta from top to bottom.

Posted by: Gref at September 13, 2022 07:46 PM (AMIL/)

268 >>That's never stopped them before. I think mainly they might be afraid of the response.

That's exactly what I'm saying. Arresting Trump would not help them so they won't do it.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 13, 2022 07:46 PM (ZLI7S)

269 "Seditious Conspiracy" -- they've already used it against J6 protesters. Implausible, no laws broken -- and used nonetheless.

Posted by: ShainS
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The actual charges have been more mundane. Parading for a lot of them or destruction of government property, assault, etc. for others.
It becomes more and more likely that it was a setup using agents provocateurs by the feds. Some new stuff just today on the timeline and story of the 'bombs' at the DNC and RNC that the feds curiously find little interest in solving on Jan 6th.

Posted by: whig at September 13, 2022 07:48 PM (CXr4y)

270 amazing details from whig, sheesh.

I recall discussions here years ago about Paul Revere, and how he was a "bridge connection" or some such, to a lot of people. And how those are important people, those that link various groups (tribes?) together.

I forget the whole thrust of the subject, but imo, this is what FBI is countering. They want to know who is connecting with whom, so they can short circuit the Revere's that make the connections, and unite groups.

Groups that are different, but al united on recognizing the criminal Stasi in DC. The color Revolution planners need to break up those coming together, to keep their divide and conquer color revolution alive.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 13, 2022 07:48 PM (Cus5s)

271 Tiny url is almost
Impossible on a phone and is blocked on company computer.
Posted by: nurse ratched
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https://twitter.com /buitengebieden/status/ 1569566224874618881?s=20&t=spLyROFdV2jqUAi1faKjiA
Remove spaces. Best boat horn ever
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Now is the time for all good Hammers to come to the aid of all good Nurses: https://tinyurl.com/4jf34ehp

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2022 07:49 PM (c8iAR)

272 Tiny url is almost
Impossible on a phone and is blocked on company computer.
Posted by: nurse ratched

To be fair, copying text and removing spaces just so I can copy it again is almost impossible on a phone or tablet. I have to copy someone's text, go down and use the comment box as a temporary Notepad, remove the spaces, copy that, open a new tab, paste the new text...

Tinyurl is so simple a caveman can do it. The work thing I understand.

Also it's good manners to say where your tinyurl link goes, because a lot of people be like "Ain't clickin' on no blind links!"

So I say "Link to Twitter" for example.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 13, 2022 07:49 PM (M9XmQ)

273 Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at
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Tiny url is almost
Impossible on a phone and is blocked on company computer.
Posted by: nurse ratched

try is.gd

it provides a shortened url, does not use cookies or java script, and doesn't block thought crime or conservative links

Posted by: BifBewalski - @ (3CCua) at September 13, 2022 07:49 PM (3CCua)

274 I don't see our side that energized.

If it is the House and Senate phones would be melting down
The Congress post office would be packed with letters
They would need a new email address and server

No, they aren't that energized.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 13, 2022 07:49 PM (QAU+L)

275 Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2022 07:49 PM (c8iAR)

You're a mensch, Mr. Hammer.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 13, 2022 07:51 PM (M9XmQ)

276 "The actual charges have been more mundane. Parading for a lot of them or destruction of government property, assault, etc. "

but facing a DC jury and charges of "hanging for sedition", and not having a spare million to throw at DC lawyers ... many may have accepted a short sentence for parading.

What was the guy with horns charged with? Didn't he get five years, and he was peaceful, talked with officers, no damage done.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 13, 2022 07:52 PM (Cus5s)

277 States are NOT going to quit holding elections. Choose to vote or not. If you live in a drop box voting area, have a block party with 20 of your closest friends that have CCW.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 13, 2022 06:52 PM (an3PP)

You really should pick up some books about how everything went down after Appomattox. The NorthEast and West Coast have decided that everybody else simply isn't going to have a say. Come Hell or high water.

Posted by: Matchless at September 13, 2022 07:53 PM (KPOrA)

278 192 sounds like Joe strip a bolt today

as mad as he gets when he speaks, I'm not surprised

Posted by: REDACTED
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Symptom of vascular dementia plus the drugs they are treating it with. Aricept in particular makes people with it angry and ranting.

Posted by: whig at September 13, 2022 07:53 PM (CXr4y)

279 try is.gd

it provides a shortened url, does not use cookies or java script, and doesn't block thought crime or conservative links
Posted by: BifBewalski
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if that doesn't work try bitly

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at September 13, 2022 07:54 PM (QAU+L)

280 261 Tucker goes into his weird little rage modes and I can only take about 10 minutes of him.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 13, 2022 07:43 PM (w2Z7l)

That's too bad. I could listen for hours. His "weird little rage modes" are the only expressions of righteously outraged sanity we have.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 13, 2022 07:54 PM (H8QX8)

281 @JROD

I've been saying since The Steal that we need a leader to rally around and unite the clans (a la Gandhi, MLK Jr., Lech Walesa, John Galt, etc.) -- and Trump could have been that individual, but he doesn't grasp that the system is irretrievably borken and what actions are now necessary.

Nobody wants to be the nail that sticks up to be beaten down -- but if we had a massive general strike by half the country, we could put an end to this nightmare one way or the other. If I were a multi-billionaire with oratorical skills, I'd do it (or people would be disappearing IYKWIMAITYD) ... and where are all the billionaires on our side?

Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 13, 2022 07:54 PM (7TGq0)

282 You really should pick up some books about how everything went down after Appomattox. The NorthEast and West Coast have decided that everybody else simply isn't going to have a say. Come Hell or high water.
Posted by: Matchless
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I recommend, again, 'The Real Lincoln', DiLorenzo.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 13, 2022 07:55 PM (c8iAR)

283 I recommend, again, 'The Real Lincoln', DiLorenzo.

By the summary I just brought up, it would be a nice synopsis of the things I already know. Lincoln was a tyrant, pure and simple.

Posted by: Matchless at September 13, 2022 07:58 PM (KPOrA)

284 I've been saying since The Steal that we need a leader to rally around and unite the clans (a la Gandhi, MLK Jr., Lech Walesa, John Galt, etc.) -- and Trump could have been that individual, but he doesn't grasp that the system is irretrievably borken and what actions are now necessary.
Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 13, 2022 07:54 PM (7TGq0)

Yes. We're leaderless.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 13, 2022 07:58 PM (H8QX8)

285 but facing a DC jury and charges of "hanging for sedition", and not having a spare million to throw at DC lawyers ... many may have accepted a short sentence for parading.

What was the guy with horns charged with? Didn't he get five years, and he was peaceful, talked with officers, no damage done.

Posted by: illiniwek
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Sedition has a very specific legal meaning and cops and the Feebs are allowed to lie to people about potential charges--most don't want to call their bluff and most of these people are relying on public defenders who push pleas on them. Whole thing has been a travesty of justice and has destroyed the legitimacy of the DC judges participating in the charade, the DOJ, and the Federal law enforcement community.

The Dems are desperately trying to gin up something like the Palmer raids in 1920 by waving the flag about Jan 6th. The more the uniparty creeps emote, the less persuasive they are.

Posted by: whig at September 13, 2022 08:08 PM (CXr4y)

286 That's too bad. I could listen for hours. His "weird little rage modes" are the only expressions of righteously outraged sanity we have.

Agreed. I didn't understand the "rage mode" thing at all.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 13, 2022 08:08 PM (Xrfse)

287 That's too bad. I could listen for hours. His "weird little rage modes" are the only expressions of righteously outraged sanity we have.

Posted by: Ordinary American
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I am with Dr. Bone because for the most part, Tucker is about one week to months behind many of these stories. Tucker learned his schtick being a young conservative bow tied host on CNN's Crossfire. That whole genre of yelling food fights such as the McLaughlin group, Hannity and Colmes, and Crossfire has fortunately for now went defunct.

Posted by: whig at September 13, 2022 08:12 PM (CXr4y)

288 "Tucker is about one week to months behind many of these stories."

So what? Who else is saying this? Any Republican politician? Trump? DeSantis?

If not Tucker, who?

And no, he's not one week to months behind most of the stories. But he's not a newspaper. He can't cover a breadth of stories in the moment. He has to focus. And his focus is true and invaluable.

Posted by: Ordinary American at September 13, 2022 08:23 PM (H8QX8)

289 JustTheNews: a former Capitol Policeman in charge of intelligence says to Republican lawmakers that they were aware of an assault on the Capitol on Jan-6 at the end of December.
Congressional Leadership chose to ignore it.

Posted by: SMOD at September 13, 2022 09:13 PM (X5CsJ)

290 “shot across the bow”? No. That’s a warning. This is a shot aimed and fired in anger directly at yet another target politically disfavored by the ruling class and their goons. There’s nothing here about this that’s a mere warning to the target of their ire.

Posted by: demonsheep at September 13, 2022 09:38 PM (ApEAj)

291 29 Why is Biden making an unscheduled, 1 hour trip to Delaware tonight and then returning to the WH? No reason is being given.

The stuttering, brainless wimp's contract expired at midnight. That pant shitting weasel met me at the same crossroads in Delaware for an extention. Boy did I rake him over the coals on this one. Just practicing for later....hahahaha.

Posted by: Satan at September 13, 2022 09:52 PM (cCxiu)

292 I’ve watched this movie before:

- Joseph Robinette Mugabe
- Adolph Biden
- Joseph Robinette Stalin
- Benito Biden
- Joseph Sese Seku Robinette Mobuto
- Mao Tse Kamala
- Kim Jung Harris
- Pol Kamala Pot
- Joseph Lenin

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