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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd at cutjibnewsletter.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com J.J. Sefton: sefton at cutjibnewsletter.com | THE MORNING RANT – Quiet Quitters To Corporate Execs: “We Learned It By Watching You”The term “quiet quitting” has been flying around a lot recently. This Washington Post story argues that what employees are quitting is the notion of going above and beyond. ‘Quiet quitting’ isn’t really about quitting. Here are the signs. [WaPo – 8/21/2022]The term is a bit of a misnomer, because quiet quitters aren’t walking away from their jobs. Instead they’re renouncing hustle culture, quitting “the idea of going above and beyond at work,”There have always been employees who do the bare minimum required of them at their jobs. They lack passion, loyalty, or a desire to advance in the company. In my younger days we would say that an employee like that was “mailing it in.” In response to the quiet quitting concept, many people are saying it is simply an updated term for slackers who mail it in. I’m not so sure about that. I have seen the “quiet quitting” trend among several highly motivated people in my professional circles, especially those who work for major corporations. These are people who have unflinchingly worked late and on weekends throughout their careers, proudly buying their company’s products, and evangelizing on behalf of their employer. At least they used to. From one of these employees who is “throttling back,” and who is suddenly content to remain behind in her tasks rather than work overtime to catch up, came this line, “I am remaining just as loyal to this company as our executives are.” For decades, if you were to ask the employees of major corporations what the company’s primary objectives were, you would likely hear some combination of profitability / product quality / service excellence / growth / employee development / product innovation / etc. But nowadays, if you were to inquire which issues the executives are most focused on, and which consume a disproportionate amount of employees’ time, you’d likely hear some (or maybe all) of the following: • The Merger / Acquisition / Sale of the Business • The Software Conversion • Diversity Equity Inclusion / Environmental Social Governance • The Reorganization • The Name Change / Rebranding / Social Media Campaign • The Management Fad / Motivational Gimmick Once upon a time, the corporate CEO was likely to be a guy who bled loyalty to the company, having worked his way up through the ranks. Now he is likely to be as loyal to your company as a free agent is to your baseball team. A typical CEO is now a chess player with a bunch of fancy initials after his name. Growing a company is not what these guys were taught in their Ivy League MBA programs. Mergers and Acquisitions is their thing. M&A, all the way. His next big initiative will likely be an acquisition, or a merger, or best of all, selling the company. There is a huge payday waiting for him if he sells the company, along with a seat at the board of an even bigger company. What about the employees? Like I said. He’s playing chess. You’re a pawn. All great chess players know that pawns are expendable after they serve their purpose. If he’s not actually successful in pulling off an M&A, then he’s padding his resume with his leadership of a massive corporate re-organization. And then there’s the CIO, the most dangerously over-empowered position in corporate America, far removed from the people involved in production, sales, customer service, and doing the actual paperwork. “The software conversion” is the most pressing issue facing the corporation in the CIO’s mind, yet it never ends. The software conversion has become a perpetual process that is never complete. What is most galling to employees is that the old, user-friendly system is invariably replaced with a more complicated system that will likely have a loss of critical functionality, requiring manual tasks to perform what were mechanized before the conversion “improved” the systems. But good news! The CIO gets to attend the Super Bowl at the invitation of the software vendor. And even better, he has been engaged to speak at an all-expense paid conference in Bermuda! (Sponsored by the software vendor, of course.) What is clear to employees is that if the software conversion doesn’t benefit employees, and if it doesn’t benefit customers, it must be benefiting someone – and that someone probably works on the executive floor. It may also be that the software conversion is being done to pave the way for a smooth integration if/when the company is sold. There is little I can add to the discussion about the social justice horror show going on in corporate America in the name of Diversity-Equity-Inclusion and Environmental Social Governance. There has been SJW nonsense in corporations for quite a while, but whereas executives used to just pay lip service to social justice, they are now true believers who prioritize ESG over all else. The modern CEO insinuating that his company is infested with bigots who need to be re-educated clearly believes that the people in the trenches doing the actual work of the company are genuine bigots in need of re-education. When your CEO is slandering you and your co-workers, it affects your loyalty and work ethic. The modern C-Suites are full of people with agendas other than that of the company’s products, sales, and service. While employees are still busting their tails out of loyalty to their customers and co-workers with whom they have valued relationships, why would they sacrifice their personal lives or go the extra mile out of loyalty to a company led by people who evince no such loyalty. In other words, if corporate executives want to understand the quiet quitting trend, if they want to understand why employees would rather pursue personal fulfillment over professional loyalty, the response might be “We learned it by watching you.”Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Hola
Posted by: Thanatopsis at September 09, 2022 11:00 AM (TgHYU) 2
I'm here too
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 09, 2022 11:01 AM (Y+l9t) 3
Yo
Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 09, 2022 11:02 AM (BFigT) 4
We always called them fuck-offs...worked harder avoiding doing the work that the job actually required.
Posted by: BignJames at September 09, 2022 11:03 AM (AwYPR) 5
I learned malicious cruelty by watching ace.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 09, 2022 11:04 AM (LvTSG) 6
I hold my tongue at work and with vendors.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:05 AM (ynpvh) 7
the quiet quitting concept
I think you're describing the old Soviet adage, "They pretend to pay us and we pretend to earn it." Posted by: t-bird at September 09, 2022 11:05 AM (wiM5O) 8
We always called them fuck-offs...worked harder avoiding doing the work that the job actually required.
Posted by: BignJames Well, it is the Age of King Upchuck the Fuckup I. Posted by: Kamala's Funeral Oration at September 09, 2022 11:05 AM (FVME7) 9
You may love your employer but your employer will never love you.
Posted by: mr tmz at September 09, 2022 11:06 AM (rJ48h) 10
Meh, after watching DoD grift its own people I have a real hard time believing any of their shit. Gen Milley works hard at sucking cock. This does not inspire me to throw myself on a grenade to save him. A fish rots from the head.
Posted by: Puddinhead at September 09, 2022 11:06 AM (xSnmX) 11
I know from experience that government managers make these guys look like pikers.
Posted by: mc at September 09, 2022 11:06 AM (arTnq) 12
What does the “c-“ in “c-suite” stand for?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 09, 2022 11:06 AM (XZfdZ) 13
I'm a bit...old-fashioned when it comes to work. I do try my best, and most of the folks there do as well. Just like any company, we are sometimes slowed by the red-tape that all companies that reach a certain size get, or as one former manager (and friend) told me, changing the direction of a company is like steering a boat; very large companies are like steering the Titanic.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:07 AM (ynpvh) 14
If you're interested in such things, the blokes over at The Rest of History Podcast, Tom Hollland and Dominic Sandbrook, have done a 2 part series on Queen Elizabeth II on the event of her passing:
https://tinyurl.com/Rest-is-Hist-QE2-1 https://tinyurl.com/Rest-is-Hist-QE2-2 Spotify links. Posted by: Sharkman at September 09, 2022 11:07 AM (OTj7Q) 15
12 What does the “c-“ in “c-suite” stand for?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 09, 2022 11:06 AM (XZfdZ) Cuck? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:07 AM (ynpvh) Posted by: Yazmin Bleach at September 09, 2022 11:07 AM (7DYli) 17
They lack passion, loyalty, or a desire to advance in the company. In my younger days we would say that an employee like that was “mailing it in.”
They're still mailing it in. Only difference is now it's the majority, not the minority. Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2022 11:07 AM (jTdAu) 18
Also Whitney Houston:
I learned from the best, I learned from you Oh baby, now, I learned from you Posted by: m at September 09, 2022 11:07 AM (euHgA) 19
15 12 What does the “c-“ in “c-suite” stand for?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 09, 2022 11:06 AM (XZfdZ) Cuck? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:07 AM (ynpvh) corporate? Posted by: m at September 09, 2022 11:08 AM (euHgA) 20
A) Wait, you mean before was happy-fun time dedicated employ type stuff?
2) Are they going to ignore everything in the world but their phones, only worse now? Lastly, I can guarantee that in two years we'll be getting stories about none of them being promoted. Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at September 09, 2022 11:08 AM (cupoy) 21
This isn't going to be popular.
I'm dialing it back myself. No longer am I saying "yes" to every added task. I'm no longer "taking up the slack" for absent or tardy coworkers. I'm not going to bust my ass just to be told "we don't have the staff to help out." The providers will have to either 1: reduce their patient load, b: reduce their hours and productivity or iii: start raising hell. Because I'm tired of doing the work of 2 1/2 people. I'm not getting paid for it and now, it's expected. So. No. Posted by: nurse ratched at September 09, 2022 11:08 AM (51c89) 22
You almost can't be a conservative and still be pro big business anymore.
I will say though the current culture of quiet quitting, demanding to work from home, holding out for that perfect job while demanding a huge salary, etc. is bad for everyone. We can't all work dream jobs. It might take a generation to sort this out because people got paid to sit at home for a few years. Posted by: Blago at September 09, 2022 11:08 AM (Zbs+g) 23
This is so good. Thanks, Buck.
Posted by: RM at September 09, 2022 11:08 AM (0eYOS) 24
I hate M&A.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 09, 2022 11:08 AM (XZfdZ) 25
Dragging ass says it better than quiet quitting.
Posted by: huerfano, stochastic commenter at September 09, 2022 11:08 AM (dTFZY) 26
24 I hate M&A.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 09, 2022 11:08 AM (XZfdZ) T&A probably better. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:09 AM (ynpvh) 27
I thought the expression was “phoning it in.”
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 09, 2022 11:09 AM (XZfdZ) 28
And our little physician owned and managed group sold out to a multi national corporation just before the pandemic.
So the money is there. But it is not being spent on hiring or retention. We don't even get to take vacations unless we find coverage ourselves. Posted by: nurse ratched at September 09, 2022 11:10 AM (51c89) 29
I've started the "quiet quitting" thing myself. My employer is big, has been around a long time, and until about 2 years ago I was proud to be associated with it. It was supposed to be a reservoir of people who actually *think*.
Then came the Coof Hysteria. Everybody from the administrators to the lowliest M.A. jumped on it and refused to fight back against the insanity of face diapers and untested shots. This among people who supposedly had been trained to evaluate evidence and follow conclusions where'er they led. Nope; authority (as in St. Fauci) was all that counted. They threatened us with loss of job if we refused the jab. Fortunately they honored religious exemptions. I've lost all respect for almost everyone here and can't wait to retire. In the meantime, I do what I am supposed to and very little more. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 09, 2022 11:10 AM (J2vNu) 30
CFO for Bed, Bath and Beyond didn't quit quietly.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at September 09, 2022 11:10 AM (OgrpQ) 31
"C" = chief.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 09, 2022 11:10 AM (XIJ/X) 32
27 I thought the expression was “phoning it in.”
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 09, 2022 11:09 AM (XZfdZ) ========== "If we just call it 'phoning it in' then people won't think it's new, and Gen-Z won't think that they're special and discovered something completely new." "Okay. Call it 'quiet quitting.'" "I'm so special! This is like when I discovered sex!" -Gen Z Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 09, 2022 11:10 AM (LvTSG) 33
30 CFO for Bed, Bath and Beyond didn't quit quietly.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at September 09, 2022 11:10 AM (OgrpQ) But it was quite the rush, from my understanding. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:11 AM (ynpvh) 34
Unsaid but still under the surface is the realization that effort and productivity aren't going to get you ahead unless you also check off some socially advantageous boxes. So why bust balls and watch "marginalized" cow-orkers get the promo?
Posted by: Buddy at September 09, 2022 11:11 AM (FCbAQ) Posted by: mr tmz at September 09, 2022 11:11 AM (rJ48h) 36
The Associated Press@AP
With the death of Queen Elizabeth II, Joe Biden gained the distinction of being the 13th and final U.S. president to meet the U.K.'s longest-serving monarch. - Well, he badly needed a win. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 09, 2022 11:11 AM (FVME7) 37
Now he is likely to be as loyal to your company as a free agent is to your baseball team. A typical CEO is now a chess player with a bunch of fancy initials after his name. Growing a company is not what these guys were taught in their Ivy League MBA programs. Mergers and Acquisitions is their thing. M&A, all the way.
Exhibit A: The Boeing Company their CEO is the guy who trashed GE. My bf works at Boeing. He was complaining about the "leadership". I told him: "it's not about productivity or profitability from your standpoint, it's about whatever deals the C-suite is cooking up to get them a sweet separation package" Posted by: kallisto at September 09, 2022 11:11 AM (dCxaZ) 38
From one of these employees who is “throttling back,” and who is suddenly content to remain behind in her tasks rather than work overtime to catch up, came this line, “I am remaining just as loyal to this company as our executives are.”
THIS. I used to tell my kids about school - I can't care more about your homework than you do. And this is where I am with my company. I can't care more than they do. I am not capable of saving it if their shortsightedness is running it into the ground. I am trying to maintain a strict 8-5ness in my work. I "work from home" which gives me time to play hooky. Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2022 11:11 AM (6TxNR) 39
Yes, T&A >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> M&A.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 09, 2022 11:11 AM (XZfdZ) 40
FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2022 11:11 AM (9gDA7) 41
30 CFO for Bed, Bath and Beyond didn't quit quietly.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at September 09, 2022 11:10 AM (OgrpQ) ========= That must have been some scam he was running. Also...did he kill himself like Epstein did? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 09, 2022 11:11 AM (LvTSG) 42
Quiet Quitting. Had a name for that in the military, ROAD, Retired on Active Duty.
Posted by: Sua Sponte at September 09, 2022 11:12 AM (7rMwv) 43
But it was quite the rush, from my understanding.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:11 AM (ynpvh) People found out he liked to LARP as Greg Louganis Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at September 09, 2022 11:12 AM (OgrpQ) 44
I definitely dialed back the last year before I retired. Working from home during the 'vid was just too easy.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 09, 2022 11:12 AM (yQpMk) 45
I try to do my best for my customers in spite of my personal feeling for my employer. However that does not include working overtime or intentionally making any type of personal sacrifice. Big mega corps are just looking for their next woke bullshit Rona type excuse to disrupt the domestic workforce and offshore or replaced skilled with unskilled.
Posted by: Garyfl at September 09, 2022 11:12 AM (fgFPM) 46
The term is a bit of a misnomer, because quiet quitters aren’t walking away from their jobs. Instead they’re renouncing hustle culture, quitting “the idea of going above and beyond at work,”
In other words, the latest generation of 'professionals' are a bunch of lazy, worthless fucks. Nice. We're doomed. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2022 11:12 AM (9gDA7) 47
27 I thought the expression was “phoning it in.”
some of us have already moved on to "tweeting it" Posted by: kulak anachronda at September 09, 2022 11:12 AM (sGtp+) 48
Great rant. Most modern corporations have gone full woke, why should anybody bust their behinds for bosses who are actively trying to undermine capitalism and promote socialism. Pretending to work since extra effort gets you nowhere is the default setting for socialism, let them learn that the hard way.
Posted by: MaureenTheTemp, Ultra Dark MAGA at September 09, 2022 11:12 AM (rWFyW) 49
Something that was popular for a bit but is not surprisingly tied to "quietly quitting:"
Going Galt Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2022 11:12 AM (6TxNR) 50
Good rant, Buck.
I did the work of 3 people on my last project. 2 hours of tablet work on top of 10 hrs in the field per day. Company didn't seem to gaf. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 09, 2022 11:12 AM (h+wzp) 51
I’ve quiet quit the army after the 4th transgender training session they gave me. Fuck em
Posted by: Giant Rage Boner at September 09, 2022 11:13 AM (oUOAB) 52
I always enjoyed the employees that spun in circles drinking coffee, smoking cigarettes and talking endlessly about how the were going to approach a task. Meanwhile, I'd just go do it by myself, task completed, and come back by the time they brewed the second pot of coffee.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 09, 2022 11:13 AM (w2Z7l) 53
Really, you're just a cost. By taking a paycheck you're stealing from shareholders. Don't make the mistake of getting older. You're a fungible component. The company is not home and your fellow employees aren't family. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 09, 2022 11:13 AM (1Nxff) 54
>>> 37 Now he is likely to be as loyal to your company as a free agent is to your baseball team. A typical CEO is now a chess player with a bunch of fancy initials after his name. Growing a company is not what these guys were taught in their Ivy League MBA programs. Mergers and Acquisitions is their thing. M&A, all the way.
Exhibit A: The Boeing Company their CEO is the guy who trashed GE. My bf works at Boeing. He was complaining about the "leadership". I told him: "it's not about productivity or profitability from your standpoint, it's about whatever deals the C-suite is cooking up to get them a sweet separation package" Posted by: kallisto at September 09, 2022 11:11 AM (dCxaZ) It's great, isn't it? Posted by: Moderna CEO, $962 Million dollars richer at September 09, 2022 11:13 AM (llON8) 55
The Associated Press@AP
With the death of Queen Elizabeth II, Joe Biden gained the distinction of being the 13th and final U.S. president to meet the U.K.'s longest-serving monarch. -- This is noteworthy...how? Posted by: Lady in Black at September 09, 2022 11:14 AM (sVtYq) Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 09, 2022 11:14 AM (1Nxff) 57
I think there's another facet at work here now, Buck.
Comment Joe Mannix here was the first I saw articulate it, and I hope he's around to so again as I'm sure I won't do his insight justice, but: Throughout the cowardly compliance during lockdowns and mandatory face masks, testing-up-your-nose-into-your-brain, and jabs in order to keep your job -- employees learned exactly how loyal their employers were to them: which was pretty much NOT AT ALL. He predicted that employees would henceforth do the minimum in response, and I think that's certainly a factor at play with the rash of "quiet quitting" today. Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 09, 2022 11:14 AM (/88Fu) 58
I hold my tongue at work and with vendors.
Fortunately, I work at home, so the only asshole co-worker I have to deal with is the one in the mirror. But when I remember how the company took advantage of me when I was a full-time employee, as a part-timer, I go to the level expected and no more. Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 09, 2022 11:14 AM (AW0uW) 59
49 Something that was popular for a bit but is not surprisingly tied to "quietly quitting:"
Going Galt Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2022 11:12 AM (6TxNR) ========= I remember when those movies were coming out, the lefty critics were dismissing as poorly timed because it "celebrated" the CEOs. Rand never celebrated a class of people. She celebrated those who created real things. Those who built skyscrapers. Those who built motors that moved the world. Those who created succeeded. She actually wasn't all that enamored of the CEO class as manifested in the book. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 09, 2022 11:14 AM (LvTSG) 60
*Commenter Joe Mannix here ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 09, 2022 11:14 AM (/88Fu) 61
Mongo sad.
Posted by: Eromero at September 09, 2022 11:14 AM (oRWDD) 62
The Associated Press@AP
With the death of Queen Elizabeth II, Joe Biden gained the distinction of being the 13th and final U.S. president to meet the U.K.'s longest-serving monarch. -- This is noteworthy...how? Posted by: Lady in Black at September 09, 2022 11:14 AM (sVtYq) It's MSM speak for Biden killed the Queen. Posted by: Napoleon XIV at September 09, 2022 11:14 AM (AiZBA) Posted by: Sharkman at September 09, 2022 11:15 AM (OTj7Q) 64
Your damn fault!
Robert Reich@RBReichf 150,000 Jackson, MS residents are without access to clean water. The city is 82% Black. West Baltimore is battling a simultaneous water crisis. Its residents are also predominantly Black. This is the legacy of segregation and redlining: decades-on-decades of racism and neglect. . . . . From Flint, Michigan to Jackson, Mississippi to West Baltimore, a combination of poor infrastructure, the climate crisis, and racism have contributed to a lack of clean drinking water in some of America’s most predominantly Black cities. This is by design. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 09, 2022 11:15 AM (FVME7) 65
I hear what happens on the Chinook line, and it ain't pretty. Supervisors and inspectors passing faulty parts and incorrect installation along just to meet their numbers, without any consideration that these are flying machines and human lives are at stake.
From what the boyfriend tells me, I can totally understand why they had to ground the 737. Who knows how many employees from shop guys right up the chain, complained but their concerns went unheard. Worse yet, they were told to shut up if they wanted to keep their jobs. America, this is one of your primary defense contractors at work. Posted by: kallisto at September 09, 2022 11:15 AM (dCxaZ) 66
Why should I burn myself to the bone to fucking give a shit about a woke leadership that bends the knee to left wing bullshit, a citizenship that shuns me and wants to defend the army and police, and sends me off to wars that the democrat party turns on after 6 months and fundraises off of anti war movements that they manipulate but meanwhile voted to send me there?
Fuck em all Posted by: Giant Rage Boner at September 09, 2022 11:15 AM (oUOAB) 67
So, Wally from “Dilbert,” then.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 09, 2022 11:15 AM (XZfdZ) 68
I was loyal to a company up until the day they held a meeting to list all of the employees who were entitled to a pension and mark them for termination.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at September 09, 2022 11:15 AM (lTGtQ) 69
Employer: You're fired if you don't take this experimental vaccine.
Em/ee: wait whut? Isn't that my call? Employer: Nope, Nopeity Nope Nope. You got 90 days to get it or you are gone. Em/ee: I object? Em/er: Why, give us an explicit medical reason (which we arent really entitled to) or explain your religious beliefs (which we really aren't entitled to). Em/ee: So I'd rather not. Em/er: Vax card in 90 days or, you're fired. Thx. Posted by: I know right? at September 09, 2022 11:15 AM (H880n) 70
Is CIO Chief Information Officer here? I was thinking Chief Investment Officer and that didn't make any sense.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 09, 2022 11:15 AM (b2nrj) 71
I really don't disagree with a lot this post.
However, I think quiet quitting is really just employees discovering that the company doesn't actually care about them, so they repay the feeling. It's a job. You're selling your time. Nothing more. Posted by: MJ at September 09, 2022 11:15 AM (zwDuR) 72
I thought the expression was “phoning it in.”
some of us have already moved on to "tweeting it" Posted by: kulak anachronda Some of us have been with our companies so long, we carrier pigeon it in. Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2022 11:15 AM (jTdAu) 73
64 From Flint, Michigan to Jackson, Mississippi to West Baltimore, a combination of poor infrastructure, the climate crisis, and racism have contributed to a lack of clean drinking water in some of America’s most predominantly Black cities. This is by design.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 09, 2022 11:15 AM (FVME7) ======= Who runs those cities? White Republicans? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 09, 2022 11:15 AM (LvTSG) 74
62 The Associated Press@AP
With the death of Queen Elizabeth II, Joe Biden gained the distinction of being the 13th and final U.S. president to meet the U.K.'s longest-serving monarch. -- This is noteworthy...how? Posted by: Lady in Black at September 09, 2022 11:14 AM (sVtYq) It's MSM speak for Biden killed the Queen. Posted by: Napoleon XIV at September 09, 2022 11:14 AM (AiZBA) Death by Shart? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:15 AM (ynpvh) 75
70 Is CIO Chief Information Officer here? I was thinking Chief Investment Officer and that didn't make any sense.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 09, 2022 11:15 AM (b2nrj) ======== Yeah, information. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 09, 2022 11:15 AM (LvTSG) 76
I guess working in an industry where profit margins are highly variable and often razor thin protects me from a lot of this.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 09, 2022 11:16 AM (UuD2k) 77
The Associated Press@AP
With the death of Queen Elizabeth II, Joe Biden gained the distinction of being the 13th and final U.S. president to meet the U.K.'s longest-serving monarch. That's a distinction without a distinction. Posted by: Count de Monet at September 09, 2022 11:16 AM (4I/2K) Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 09, 2022 11:16 AM (UuD2k) 79
As my father once told me, "Get a job you like because ultimately, all they're doing is buying the hours of your life."
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 09, 2022 11:17 AM (KbCG3) 80
It's been said before, but unless you're working for a mom and pop, screw the whole "two week notice" thing. Get a job and take it. MultiNationCorp is not going to give you two weeks notice when they fire you so they can replace you with a foreigner.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - China is making you buy EVs, read to bottom at September 09, 2022 11:17 AM (0CG0Y) 81
69 Employer: You're fired if you don't take this experimental vaccine.
Em/ee: wait whut? Isn't that my call? Employer: Nope, Nopeity Nope Nope. You got 90 days to get it or you are gone. Em/ee: I object? Em/er: Why, give us an explicit medical reason (which we arent really entitled to) or explain your religious beliefs (which we really aren't entitled to). Em/ee: So I'd rather not. Em/er: Vax card in 90 days or, you're fired. Thx. Posted by: I know right? at September 09, 2022 11:15 AM (H880n) I had an employer that wanted us to take a "voluntary" online class, but if you didn't take it, punishment was up to, and including, termination. Voluntary! Yeah! Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:17 AM (ynpvh) 82
. . . Throughout the cowardly compliance during lockdowns and mandatory face masks, testing-up-your-nose-into-your-brain, and jabs in order to keep your job -- employees learned exactly how loyal their employers were to them: which was pretty much NOT AT ALL.
He predicted that employees would henceforth do the minimum in response, and I think that's certainly a factor at play with the rash of "quiet quitting" today. Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 09, 2022 *** Exactly. "Cowardly compliance" -- that's the term for it. Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 09, 2022 11:17 AM (J2vNu) 83
Excellent rant, buck. "I learned it from watching you" indeed!
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 09, 2022 11:17 AM (4I/2K) 84
My Dad had a story about sometime in the 60's or 70's when he'd drive past auto dealers for GM, Ford, Chrysler and the employee parking lots were full of Datsuns, Toyotas and Volkswagens.
"If the cars weren't good enough for the people who sold them, what does that say to their customers?" Posted by: Stu Podaso at September 09, 2022 11:17 AM (wUHYj) Posted by: Moron Robbie - China is making you buy EVs, read to bottom at September 09, 2022 11:17 AM (0CG0Y) 86
The providers will have to either 1: reduce their patient load, b: reduce their hours and productivity or iii: start raising hell.
Oh, they'll reduce their patient load alright Posted by: kallisto at September 09, 2022 11:17 AM (dCxaZ) 87
I was just thinking, similarly, the decline of patriotism is probably correlated to the callousness and corruption of government.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at September 09, 2022 11:17 AM (EGSGm) 88
Robert Reich@RBReichf 150,000 Jackson, MS residents are without access to clean water. The city is 82% Black. West Baltimore is battling a simultaneous water crisis. Its residents are also predominantly Black. This is the legacy of segregation and redlining: decades-on-decades of racism and neglect. __________ And the Army Corps of Engineers came to Jackson, flipped some switches and - hey, presto! - water pressure was restored. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 09, 2022 11:18 AM (1Nxff) Posted by: Chief Sitting Bull at September 09, 2022 11:18 AM (9gDA7) 90
This is an excellent and timely rant, Buck!
Posted by: kallisto at September 09, 2022 11:18 AM (dCxaZ) 91
64 Your damn fault!
Robert Reich@RBReichf 150,000 Jackson, MS residents are without access to clean water. The city is 82% Black. West Baltimore is battling a simultaneous water crisis. Its residents are also predominantly Black. This is the legacy of segregation and redlining: decades-on-decades of racism and neglect. . . . . From Flint, Michigan to Jackson, Mississippi to West Baltimore, a combination of poor infrastructure, the climate crisis, and racism have contributed to a lack of clean drinking water in some of America’s most predominantly Black cities. This is by design. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks One of the most consistently wrong midgets tweets stuff! Posted by: Puddleglum at September 09, 2022 11:18 AM (D8mow) 92
The Associated Press@AP
With the death of Queen Elizabeth II, Joe Biden gained the distinction of being the 13th and final U.S. president to meet the U.K.'s longest-serving monarch. Of course he is number 13. Might as well have been 666th. Posted by: Miss Issippi at September 09, 2022 11:18 AM (sI15f) 93
I can definitely relate to this. After my employer demanded the clot shot be taken by everyone, I was pretty much in the "barren field of fucks" group.
Posted by: FriscoYoda at September 09, 2022 11:18 AM (S7une) 94
71 I really don't disagree with a lot this post.
However, I think quiet quitting is really just employees discovering that the company doesn't actually care about them, so they repay the feeling. It's a job. You're selling your time. Nothing more. Posted by: MJ at September 09, 2022 11:15 AM (zwDuR) Although, as one former colleague put it, "I really enjoy my job. Seems wrong that I get paid for it...Nah, just kidding, I'm a prostitute" Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:18 AM (ynpvh) 95
You know the army has 3 tiers of transgender training that all have to be discussed in 1 hour blocks as mandatory training and tracked in DTMS per army regulation and that commanders are upbraided if your unit doesn’t complete said task?
And they want me to give a fuck about them and yell at soldiers for failing an APFT while these transgender fucks are exempt for over a year? Yeah ok sure big army sure Posted by: Giant Rage Boner at September 09, 2022 11:18 AM (oUOAB) 96
"That must have been some scam he was running.
Also...did he kill himself like Epstein did?" yeah, it sounds like he was under investigation for ? something serious. Being broke and/or in prison was not how he envisioned his next decade, perhaps. Unless he was in bed with the mob (or cartel, whatever), and they didn't want him to become an informant, not sure why someone else would kill him. Posted by: illiniwek at September 09, 2022 11:18 AM (Cus5s) 97
Readings From the Book of Joe.
.@JoeNBC suggests Jesus Christ supported abortion: "Jesus never once talked about abortion. And it was happening back in ancient times. It was happening during his time. Never once mentioned it. For people perverting the gospel of Jesus Christ down to one issue, it is heresy." - Jesus also never mentioned murdering your intern so just shut up that too! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 09, 2022 11:18 AM (FVME7) 98
This is samething as SHORT. Something GIs did once their tour in Vietnam reached less than 5 months left. They would mark the underside of their Patrol Cap/Cover visor with SHORT. They would flip this up in formation when a unit was looking for volunteers. Every SNCO understood the message.
Posted by: Puddinhead at September 09, 2022 11:19 AM (xSnmX) 99
88 And the Army Corps of Engineers came to Jackson, flipped some switches and - hey, presto! - water pressure was restored.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 09, 2022 11:18 AM (1Nxff) ========== Seriously, it was a scam on the part of the city government, and the people will not punish them for it. I think a wall around the city might be an appropriate solution. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 09, 2022 11:19 AM (LvTSG) 100
80-10-10
That was the breakdown for years. 80% just came to work, did their jobs, and left. 10% were great, and 10% sucked ass and were a net drain on the company. So It's now more like 70-10-20? 70-5-25? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 09, 2022 11:19 AM (XIJ/X) 101
390 "C" = chief.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 09, 2022 11:10 AM (XIJ/X) How. third base Posted by: kulak anachronda at September 09, 2022 11:19 AM (sGtp+) 102
It doesn't describe me but I love the line a motivational speaker named Les Brown who described his dead end job at Sears.
'I was working just hard enough to keep from being fired and they were paying just enough to keep me from quitting.' Posted by: polynikes at September 09, 2022 11:20 AM (ZB6WQ) 103
Do I work as hard as I used to? No. But it's not required at the position I'm in now. If asked, I'll do whatever it takes to get the job done as always.
Until it's required, I'll tread water and take care of the simple things in the meantime. I am in no way "quiet quitting" on my company. My reputation means more to me than that. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2022 11:20 AM (9gDA7) 104
However, I think quiet quitting is really just employees discovering that the company doesn't actually care about them, so they repay the feeling.
It's a job. You're selling your time. Nothing more. Posted by: MJ at September 09, 2022 11:15 AM (zwDuR) We're all Union now. Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 09, 2022 11:20 AM (yQpMk) 105
100 80-10-10
That was the breakdown for years. 80% just came to work, did their jobs, and left. 10% were great, and 10% sucked ass and were a net drain on the company. So It's now more like 70-10-20? 70-5-25? Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 09, 2022 11:19 AM (XIJ/X) It sounds more like it went towards 90-0-10, or 85-5-10, basically the more motivated people are changing their behavior. Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 09, 2022 11:20 AM (b2nrj) 106
92 The Associated Press@AP
With the death of Queen Elizabeth II, Joe Biden gained the distinction of being the 13th and final U.S. president to meet the U.K.'s longest-serving monarch. Of course he is number 13. Might as well have been 666th. Posted by: Miss Issippi at September 09, 2022 11:18 AM (sI15f) Wadda you mean? We'd be worser than some tin-pot dictatorship in the Carribean with 666 changes in leaders in a 72 year period... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:20 AM (ynpvh) 107
Is 'quiet quitting' like 'coasting'? Asking for a friend? And possibly also an entire company....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at September 09, 2022 11:20 AM (xcxpd) 108
Jackson went downhill as soon as Johnny Cash left.
Posted by: Puddinhead at September 09, 2022 11:20 AM (xSnmX) 109
Robert Reich@RBReichf
150,000 Jackson, MS residents are without access to clean water. The city is 82% Black. West Baltimore is battling a simultaneous water crisis. Its residents are also predominantly Black. This is the legacy of segregation and redlining: decades-on-decades of racism and neglect. I'd like for Robert Reich to say this to my face while I'm standing next to my black neighbor in the Republican suburb north of Democrat Jackson. He can go pound sand. Jacksonians voted for their calamity, and those who couldn't live with it, moved. Posted by: Miss Issippi at September 09, 2022 11:21 AM (sI15f) 110
Robert Reich@RBReichf
150,000 Jackson, MS residents are without access to clean water. The city is 82% Black. West Baltimore is battling a simultaneous water crisis. Its residents are also predominantly Black. * It's worth noting that the federal government took over the water business in the 1970s, and now everyone working those jobs has to be licensed and qualified. It's weird that the black cities, who are passing the same tests and getting the same licenses, are performing so poorly. Probably just a coincedence. Posted by: Moron Robbie - China is making you buy EVs, read to bottom at September 09, 2022 11:21 AM (0CG0Y) 111
Quiet Quitting is nothing new. Only the term is new. This has been going on for at least 20 years and probably longer. I saw it change early in my law career. When I started at a big NYC firm, I knew and accepted the deal: they would work me like a fucking rabid dog but I would be paid very well and have a prestigious job on my resume. After only a few years, I saw the change in the new associates coming in. They wanted the money and the prestige, but did not want to work particularly hard.
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 09, 2022 11:21 AM (iFTx/) 112
97 Readings From the Book of Joe.
.@JoeNBC suggests Jesus Christ supported abortion: "Jesus never once talked about abortion. And it was happening back in ancient times. It was happening during his time. Never once mentioned it. For people perverting the gospel of Jesus Christ down to one issue, it is heresy." - Jesus also never mentioned murdering your intern so just shut up that too! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 09, 2022 11:18 AM (FVME7) Thou Shalt Not Murder. Well, that's a slight problem. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:21 AM (ynpvh) 113
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 09, 2022 11:19 AM (LvTSG)
Yes...a majority black city, governed by blacks for years, is a victim of racism. The water facilities are run by a black woman, and have been for eight years. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 09, 2022 11:21 AM (XIJ/X) 114
This is favorite stat by the way...and sort of relates.
When surveyed, about 65% of CEOs answered that they believed their employees wanted them to comment on social/political issues. When employees were surveyed, 35% responded they wanted the CEO to comment on social/political issues. Posted by: MJ at September 09, 2022 11:21 AM (zwDuR) 115
Loyalty to a company has never been A Thing except in rare instances. The only difference now is that there are competitors who will make it worth your while to leave.
Posted by: NR Pax at September 09, 2022 11:22 AM (4olE8) 116
Robert Reich@RBReichf
150,000 Jackson, MS residents are without access to clean water. The city is 82% Black. West Baltimore is battling a simultaneous water crisis. Its residents are also predominantly Black. This is the legacy of segregation and redlining: decades-on-decades of racism and neglect. . . . . From Flint, Michigan to Jackson, Mississippi to West Baltimore, a combination of poor infrastructure, the climate crisis, and racism have contributed to a lack of clean drinking water in some of America’s most predominantly Black cities. This is by design. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Who's been in CHARGE of those cities, Mini-Meth? Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2022 11:22 AM (9gDA7) 117
Jesus also never mentioned murdering your intern so just shut up that too!Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 09, 2022 11:18 AM (FVME7)
Darkly amusing. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 09, 2022 11:22 AM (wvo9L) 118
113 Yes...a majority black city, governed by blacks for years, is a victim of racism.
The water facilities are run by a black woman, and have been for eight years. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 09, 2022 11:21 AM (XIJ/X) ========= This is all Trump's fault. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 09, 2022 11:22 AM (LvTSG) 119
I remember employee appreciation.
Posted by: m at September 09, 2022 11:22 AM (euHgA) 120
.@JoeNBC suggests Jesus Christ supported abortion: "Jesus never once talked about abortion. And it was happening back in ancient times. It was happening during his time. Never once mentioned it. For people perverting the gospel of Jesus Christ down to one issue, it is heresy."
Jesus even suggested that stealing from your employer was a smart move when you are going to be sacked, which I guess is on topic. Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 09, 2022 11:22 AM (yQpMk) 121
Robert Reich is the same douchebag who didn't want a building in his Berkley neighborhood converted to low income housing.
But he'll sing the blues on behalf of poor blacks half a country away. Posted by: mr tmz at September 09, 2022 11:22 AM (rJ48h) 122
Who runs those cities? White Republicans?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 09, 2022 11:15 AM (LvTSG) Much like those Scooby Doo kids, if you were to rip the faces, er, I mean masks off of the democrats that have run these towns for decades, you'd find HITLER!!! And he would've gotten away with it but for those meddling kids and the teeny tiny Robert Reich. Posted by: Buddy at September 09, 2022 11:22 AM (FCbAQ) 123
Wadda you mean? We'd be worser than some tin-pot dictatorship in the Carribean with 666 changes in leaders in a 72 year period...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:20 AM (ynpvh) I was just really playing off of the number thing...but to your point, I can't imagine anything worse than having a biden as president. Posted by: Miss Issippi at September 09, 2022 11:22 AM (sI15f) 124
I do believe this is was called "going Galt" in the old days I would not doubt that we will soon see "Who is John Galt" scrawled on walls soon.
Posted by: Bastiatsuperfan at September 09, 2022 11:22 AM (RWpOP) 125
Having experienced several.M & A events, I can say it's far better to be the merger than the mergee.
Posted by: Diogenes at September 09, 2022 11:23 AM (anj39) 126
113 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 09, 2022 11:19 AM (LvTSG)
Yes...a majority black city, governed by blacks for years, is a victim of racism. The water facilities are run by a black woman, and have been for eight years. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 09, 2022 11:21 AM (XIJ/X) If it was Stacy Abrams it would explain a great deal Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:23 AM (ynpvh) 127
My current jobs involve tip pooling.
The company takes all tips our bartenders earn and distribute them among the bartenders working during that time frame equally. As I will earn the same as the most inexperienced and inefficient bartender working during that shift, I have no motivation to work harder than is necessary to achieve the work parameters. Worse yet, they routinely over staff, as our hourly base is a pittance and the wage liability for the company is negligible, though for the bartenders the addition of an additional employee can cut wages by as much as half (having two when one is needed). So if portability of the individual is an earnings:labor formula, when there is no way to make more than your coworker, the natural way to improve the ratio is to work less than a coworker. He who does the least is getting paid the best. Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 09, 2022 11:23 AM (nPfQJ) Posted by: t-bird at September 09, 2022 11:23 AM (//PXO) 129
I once asked a boss why I hadn't received a promotion and she told me that my work was good but she saw that I was leaving work every day right at 5:30 (which was our official end).
I made the deal with myself that if the expectation was that I'd work longer hours, I was OK with where I was at. I didn't bitch, I just accepted it. I also started envying the janitor, which told me that it was time for me to leave. Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 09, 2022 11:23 AM (KbCG3) 130
Lol at big army going out of their way to give special treatment to .0005% of people identifying as some special sea fairy other gender and give all of us special training on how to treat them. Have talks with the lower enlisted and laugh, WHY TF ARENT WE GIVEN SPECIAL TRAINING ON HOW TO DEAL WITH BLACK PEOPLE? WHAT ABOUT SOUTHERN WHITES? WHAT ABOUT ASIAN ISLANDERS? None of you minorities are worthy of that, only dudes who wanna cut their own dicks off? Fucking a the priorities of the army now are the priorities of the democrat party funding apparatus
Posted by: Giant Rage Boner at September 09, 2022 11:23 AM (oUOAB) 131
Thou Shalt Not Murder. Well, that's a slight problem.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:21 AM (ynpvh) Don't forget "But whoso shall offend one of these little [children] which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea" Posted by: NR Pax at September 09, 2022 11:23 AM (4olE8) 132
It sounds more like it went towards 90-0-10, or 85-5-10, basically the more motivated people are changing their behavior. * People watched as the slackers faced no punishment, got the same raises, and often were promoted. The people learned the lesson. Posted by: Moron Robbie - China is making you buy EVs, read to bottom at September 09, 2022 11:23 AM (0CG0Y) 133
The problem with my occupation before I retired was the harder you worked the more work they gave you. It was a caseload type of system.
Posted by: polynikes at September 09, 2022 11:23 AM (ZB6WQ) 134
When you see ass-kissers get the attention and promotions, while your extra effort barely gets a raise, you quickly learn the extra effort is a cost you can't afford.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at September 09, 2022 11:23 AM (naEeR) 135
123 Wadda you mean? We'd be worser than some tin-pot dictatorship in the Carribean with 666 changes in leaders in a 72 year period...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:20 AM (ynpvh) I was just really playing off of the number thing...but to your point, I can't imagine anything worse than having a biden as president. Posted by: Miss Issippi at September 09, 2022 11:22 AM (sI15f) Hillary Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:24 AM (ynpvh) 136
.@JoeNBC suggests Jesus Christ supported abortion: "Jesus never once talked about abortion. And it was happening back in ancient times. It was happening during his time. Never once mentioned it. For people perverting the gospel of Jesus Christ down to one issue, it is heresy." Seems he missed the entire part of The Bible about the children. Go home, Joe. You're drunk. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2022 11:24 AM (9gDA7) 137
We need to talk about the real issues, like common sense
A woman was beheaded by a sword-wielding assailant on a residential street in the Silicon Valley town of San Carlos, California, on Thursday in front of horrified onlookers. The suspect, who returned to the scene, was arrested in connection with the woman’s death, with police receiving counseling ...the victim had two children, who did not witness the crime...were inside the house at the time...the two were in an ongoing relationship but law enforcement sources say the victim got a temporary restraining order against the suspect, Hayward resident Jose Solano Landaeta, in April. Not related to the Aloha Snack-Bar, actually. I'd joke about laws restricting carry and ownership of swords, but they probably already exist in CA. What seems like a normal, law-abiding woman does what society tells her to do (get restraining order, trust police, don't get weapon to defend self) lets violent man commit a murder. Sad. Posted by: Brady Gun Control Association at September 09, 2022 11:24 AM (JCZqz) 138
Hillary
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:24 AM (ynpvh) Good point, but I'm not convinced that she doesn't have her hand up Biden's trousers. Posted by: Miss Issippi at September 09, 2022 11:25 AM (sI15f) 139
127 My current jobs involve tip pooling.
The company takes all tips our bartenders earn and distribute them among the bartenders working during that time frame equally. Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 09, 2022 11:23 AM (nPfQJ) yeah, that's shitty to the harder working ones. Really does incentivise working harder, doesn't it? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:25 AM (ynpvh) 140
.@JoeNBC suggests Jesus Christ supported abortion: "Jesus never once talked about abortion. And it was happening back in ancient times. It was happening during his time. Never once mentioned it. For people perverting the gospel of Jesus Christ down to one issue, it is heresy."
- Jesus also never mentioned murdering your intern so just shut up that too! = Funny comment, but "Joe" is lost. He'd better pull his head out before his time is up. Posted by: I know right? at September 09, 2022 11:25 AM (iI/R6) 141
Having just spent several days at a Space Force base assisting in launch preps and working with military folk as part of payload provider - no quiet quitters there.
Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornistan at September 09, 2022 11:25 AM (eb9ku) 142
This is a symptom of how we keep score now. It used to be you had to create something, to be wealthy. You mined, you farmed, you had a factory.
Now the rich just move money around. They no longer produce nor create anything... and they have used that power to buy up, those means of production we still had, and then outsourced them to other countries. Add in that they no longer take care of employees at all? And why go above and beyond to help someone ELSE get rich, when they don't give a shit about you. Posted by: Romeo13 at September 09, 2022 11:25 AM (oHd/0) 143
128 "C" = chief.
CEO, COO, CIO, CTO, CFO... Are there others? They seem to be growing. Posted by: t-bird at September 09, 2022 11:23 AM (//PXO) CDO--Chief diversity officer Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:25 AM (ynpvh) 144
I've been at job my for quite some time. I had an amazing manager who pushed me and I was a hustler, at times being sent into problem situations to resolve them.
Then I got a new manager only talks to me when the mandatory annual review time comes around. Then one day I was told that I was in an entirely new division and my job changed. Oh, and here is a nice pay bump since you are being re-classified. YAY! You have to do all this new training, and we are making you part of a large bonus structure. YAY! I started hammering out all that training. Then bonus time comes around and I get told that I won't be participating in the bonus structure for reasons. I haven't done any of that training since. Then I got re-organized 2 more times and not once was I ever asked what I wanted. That was it for me. I'm good at what I do, and I can do it all remotely, so I do exactly the work expected of me and that is it. Posted by: ghbucky at September 09, 2022 11:26 AM (BjAfx) 145
"quiet quitting" is bad work ethic, selfishness, and sloth.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2022 11:26 AM (Ivdso) 146
Most people don't have careers per se; they have jobs. And everyone changes employers many times, so loyalty and the kind of long-term personal relationships that help cement people to an enterprise are lacking. A lot of dialing it back in the workplace may just be the result of modern workplaces, which are soulless in all kinds of ways.
I also wonder how much of this may be a long-term effect of women in the workplace. Men were once stereotypically their job; the absentee father who worked all the time became a staple of movies and television because that was a thing in real life. But women have other priorities: work-life balance, childbearing and rearing. And employers work hard to hire women, advance them, and accommodate their priorities. If you are a man and see that, slaving away to achieve no more than female colleagues doesn't make a lot of since, and men no longer really have to either now that most homes have two incomes. I think there may be less laziness than meets the eye here. Just people responding to a different environment. Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 09, 2022 11:27 AM (KFhLj) 147
First things first: Capitalism isn't about working hard. It's about providing value. Sometimes hard work *is* the value provided. Sometimes it's not. If the work I do is worth what my employer is willing to pay, then I don't see the issue here. If it's not, then they are free to fire me.
The reason this is in the public zeitgeist right now is because it's been a worker's job market for the past year or so. Yeah, employment numbers are starting to decline, but on the whole, most businesses are currently short-staffed and struggling to hire. A lot of working women dropped out of the economy to take care of children during the pandemic, and many of them aren't coming back because they realized that between the child-care costs and tax implications, many families could afford to live on a single salary. Some of them were just disgusted with what they saw from the public school system. When businesses came out of lockdown, there were fewer workers to hire. That means workers get to be choosier about what kind of hours they're willing to put in. It's basic supply and demand, and until the demand for jobs starts outpacing supply again, this is where things stand. Posted by: Caiwyn at September 09, 2022 11:27 AM (+dHQK) 148
When I was a cub engineer I worked very hard because that is what I had always done in school, sports and previous jobs. But I noticed that I was taking over failing projects and getting them on track with no bonuses or raises. The people that had screwed up the projects were making more and working far less hard.
I talked with my father and his comment was "They will work a good horse to death and put a lazy one out to pasture." That made sense to me. So I left that company and started my own design company where my hard work was rewarded by me. Never looked back. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 09, 2022 11:27 AM (u4CEu) 149
Throck Muckborton:
Here's a variation on your themes. For large regional hospitals, for example the major Children's hospitals, a big part of tthe corporate game is building reputation beyond the region. So, even though your measurable medical outcomes occur within your regional patient population, you tend to be dismissive of your actual constituents (referring docs and patients) due to th notion that you have virtually complete capture of that base, and instead you compete for national or international repute. It is a variation on the concept of brand building. In reality, there is very little room for upward mobility in that sphere, as the national hierarchy is pretty well entrenched and international reputation is ephemeral. Meanwhile, the regional referring facilities develop a sense of ambivalence or even antipathy toward VBH (Very Big Hospital). That may be their version of "we're just as loyal to VBH as VBH is to us". Posted by: Muldoon at September 09, 2022 11:27 AM (kXYt5) 150
Another factor I noticed even back when I worked in corporate America as early as the 90's: the Human Resources department -- on the front lines of what back then being graduated in colleges and was called "political correctness" (now #Wokeness, DEI, and CRT) was literally hostile to employees like me.
I was twice reported to HR by inferior & envious co-workers, and like with the IRS or any accusation against Trump the past six years -- was presumed guilty until proving my innocence. [First time was by a socialist bitch who hated my political views, overheard a joke I made to my boss -- who laughed -- and then reported me for creating "a hostile working environment." I quietly listened to the charges, laughed out loud, said "I'm worth 20 employees like her, and by the way please accept this as my two weeks notice -- you deserve her." Second time an incompetent complained because I was doing their job as it was necessary for the project I ran to be successful. I was stunned to have been summarily terminated before I could even open my mouth.] Anyway, now employees are afraid to rock any boat owing to HR ... Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 09, 2022 11:27 AM (/88Fu) 151
138 Hillary
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:24 AM (ynpvh) Good point, but I'm not convinced that she doesn't have her hand up Biden's trousers. Posted by: Miss Issippi at September 09, 2022 11:25 AM (sI15f) Eyebleach. My turn. Because she has her hand up hers. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:27 AM (ynpvh) 152
Did you hear the latest about Jackson? EPA came down and fixed the problem in a couple of hours.
There's quiet quitting and quiet part-time. A temp I know said, why should I quit temping at a job I love (in entertainment) to get some crappy corporate job for $30K and lose all my welfarish benefits? So maybe that's why there's a labor shortage. Posted by: Ultra pj at September 09, 2022 11:28 AM (G1dq6) 153
My "CEO" comments on political/social issues frequently. Mostly I just ignore his communications and when he writes something I agree with I write back and tell him.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 09, 2022 11:28 AM (wvo9L) 154
When you see ass-kissers get the attention and promotions, while your extra effort barely gets a raise, you quickly learn the extra effort is a cost you can't afford.
* My favorite? A person can't be promoted to a higher position because he's the only one in the entire department that knows how to do everything. Wait, what? Ohhhh Posted by: Moron Robbie - China is making you buy EVs, read to bottom at September 09, 2022 11:28 AM (0CG0Y) 155
Posted by: Brady Gun Control Association at September 09, 2022 11:24 AM (JCZqz)
You have to love the concept of a restraining order, a legal device to prevent someone from doing something illegal to a person, which the assailant was already quite willing to do. Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 09, 2022 11:28 AM (UuD2k) 156
Good observations, Buck. Whenever I heard "quiet quitting" mentioned, I associated it with the younger generation. I don't know if that emphasis came from others or I just assumed it myself. Either way, though, you mentioned several troubling things in your "rant" that I identify with my own company (whom I happen to like a lot): We had a dreadful CIO whose only skills seemed to be schmoozing and blowing smoke, and now there's a sudden emphasis on DEI, which lead to mandatory training to recognize our biases...all of that seems to have had a cumulative effect on my attitude that I couldn't quite articulate. I've always found it's more satisfying to stay busy and do a good job rather than to slack off...but I have noticed a tendency towards checking-out once I've put in my 8 hours, as well as more of a willingness to say, "that's not my job," whereas I used to be a lot more eager to go above and beyond. Some of that may be age and jadedness, but I think C-Suite culture has had a subtle impact that I hadn't noticed.
Posted by: Simple Stevo at September 09, 2022 11:28 AM (6eMvt) 157
127 My current jobs involve tip pooling.
The company takes all tips our bartenders earn and distribute them among the bartenders working during that time frame equally. As I will earn the same as the most inexperienced and inefficient bartender working during that shift, I have no motivation to work harder than is necessary to achieve the work parameters. So if portability of the individual is an earnings:labor formula, when there is no way to make more than your coworker, the natural way to improve the ratio is to work less than a coworker. He who does the least is getting paid the best. Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 09, 2022 11:23 AM (nPfQJ) ____________________________ Unfortunately that is the norm in the modern credit-card world where it's hard to track which tips were earned by which bartender. Back in the say when I was a waiter and bartender, it was 90% cash and I just put my own cash tips in my pocket. Posted by: Elric Blade at September 09, 2022 11:28 AM (iFTx/) 158
The workers are concerned about making a great product.
The c suite is concerned about making a great stock price and dividend. Those two do not necessarily intersect. Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 09, 2022 11:28 AM (t3/qz) 159
Jacson Mayor (and progressive activist) Chokwe Antar Lumumba was first elected in 2017 with 93% of the vote in his favor. His biggest campaign promise was to make Jackson "the most radical city on the planet.'" He won on a platform that included creating a civilian law enforcement review board, reforming public school education pedagogy and prioritizing businesses owned by people of color for city contracts.
Fast forward to 2022 - surprise surprise, 82% of the population no longer has clean drinking water. Who could have predicted that? Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2022 11:28 AM (trdmm) 160
This started back in the 90's when companies decided loyalty ran one way, to them. If an employee works hard 9-5 and does their job, they aren't phoning it in. They are fulfilling their employment agreement. The C-suite people are mercenaries. They just hate that employees are acting the same way.
Posted by: WiNO - Amish Vampires in Space at September 09, 2022 11:29 AM (EpDzw) 161
Eyebleach. My turn.
Because she has her hand up hers. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:27 AM (ynpvh) You win. lol Posted by: Miss Issippi at September 09, 2022 11:29 AM (sI15f) 162
His damn fault!
Daily Caller@DailyCaller A Democrat elected official allegedly stabbed an investigative reporter to death last Friday in Nevada. At the press conference responding to the incident, a reporter decided to ask the sheriff whether he condemned DONALD TRUMP. https://bit.ly/3RvHyxW Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 09, 2022 11:29 AM (FVME7) 163
>>> 97 Readings From the Book of Joe.
.@JoeNBC suggests Jesus Christ supported abortion: "Jesus never once talked about abortion. And it was happening back in ancient times. It was happening during his time. Never once mentioned it. For people perverting the gospel of Jesus Christ down to one issue, it is heresy." - Jesus also never mentioned murdering your intern so just shut up that too! Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 09, 2022 11:18 AM (FVME7) So super SMAHHHHHHRT Joe S and all the other stupid leftists want to say that anything Jesus didn't mention is permitted? So for example that little disgusting freak with his cannibal movie is all good because that wasn't mentioned? Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 09, 2022 11:29 AM (llON8) 164
I usually tip in cash.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 09, 2022 11:29 AM (t3/qz) 165
Not related to the Aloha Snack-Bar, actually. I'd joke about laws restricting carry and ownership of swords, but they probably already exist in CA. What seems like a normal, law-abiding woman does what society tells her to do (get restraining order, trust police, don't get weapon to defend self) lets violent man commit a murder. Sad.
Posted by: Brady Gun Control Association at September 09, 2022 11:24 AM (JCZqz) Nope, totally legal to carry a sheathed sword in California, even in Government buildings. Why? It is still officially part of US Military Dress Uniforms. Believe me, as someone who participated in Competitive Historic Sword Fighting competitions for many years, we researched this whole thing. Posted by: Romeo13 at September 09, 2022 11:29 AM (oHd/0) 166
Did you hear the latest about Jackson? EPA came down and fixed the problem in a couple of hours.
** please please please tell me this is true. It's been complained about for what, two weeks? Black people this, black people that, and a white dude comes in and turns a valve? Posted by: Moron Robbie - China is making you buy EVs, read to bottom at September 09, 2022 11:29 AM (0CG0Y) 167
Fast forward to 2022 - surprise surprise, 82% of the population no longer has clean drinking water. Who could have predicted that?
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2022 11:28 AM (trdmm) It was there. They just couldn't find the switch to turn the pumps back on. Posted by: WiNO - Amish Vampires in Space at September 09, 2022 11:29 AM (EpDzw) 168
As a language person, the coolest executive title I ever saw — at some company that did translation or language-learning software, I think — was “CLO” — “Chief Linguistic Officer.”
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 09, 2022 11:30 AM (XZfdZ) 169
As a language person, the coolest executive title I ever saw — at some company that did translation or language-learning software, I think — was “CLO” — “Chief Linguistic Officer.”
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 09, 2022 11:30 AM (XZfdZ) 170
I decided to stay with a company that serves local, hires from inside, and emphasizes person to person. This outfit demands loyalty but you are rewarded for that loyalty. It's rare anymore.
I will not even dream of running down my employer, that we worked together and I paid off my house! Or telling anyone anything negative about it at all other than The usual. I would not phone it in ever. Ecolab, Staples, Those Romney Corps, FUCK THEM they deserve all the Union Communism they get. Posted by: LenNeal at September 09, 2022 11:30 AM (U11/V) 171
I think one if the biggest issues with the "quiet quitting " trend, like all stupid trends that last 6 months and are just some stupid Social Media hype (like remember dad bods?) is that it is just younger kids using a trend as an excuse to be lazy.
These people never went above and beyond, it was working 9 to 5, with an hour lunch and 6 meal health breaks a day, while demanding long vacations, nice offices, and other perks. Now companies are trying to cut the fat, so those catered lunches are gone and the company gym is shuttered, so they're throwing hissy fits and tiktoking about it. There might be a minority group of older workers who are fed up with basically being a cog, but probably also seeing for so long how companies would bring in useless kids right out of college who start at a higher salary than that 40 year employee. I can't side with anyone here, yeah companies are there to make the top few the most money, but these 25 year olds who walk in the door and want to make 7 figures while sitting at home need to be tossed in a volcano along side the ceos. Posted by: Rbastid at September 09, 2022 11:30 AM (f8kHW) 172
Seems he missed the entire part of The Bible about the children.
Go home, Joe. You're drunk. Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at September 09, 2022 11:24 AM Not to mention that whole thing about not committing murder. I suppose that was too obvious for Joe. Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 09, 2022 11:30 AM (asZuX) 173
Jesus also never explicitly mentions fucking animals. Does that mean I'm i heretic for saying "zip up your pants and step away from the chicken, Joe"?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 09, 2022 11:30 AM (6FeV1) 174
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 09, 2022 11:30 AM (XZfdZ)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 09, 2022 11:30 AM (XZfdZ) stereo! *dons 3d glasses* Posted by: kulak anachronda at September 09, 2022 11:31 AM (sGtp+) 175
Consider other factors for the existence of the stupidly termed “quiet quitting” phenomenon.
Taxes and starve the beast. Destruction of the American dream. Demonization of its most industrious as enemies of the state. Increased homeschooling in the face of indoctrination, CRT, and, grooming. And a general shift toward spending more time for self and family versus for "the man." Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 09, 2022 11:31 AM (yHsuS) 176
This is a great thread, Buck.
Posted by: m at September 09, 2022 11:31 AM (euHgA) 177
168 As a language person, the coolest executive title I ever saw — at some company that did translation or language-learning software, I think — was “CLO” — “Chief Linguistic Officer.”
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 09, 2022 11:30 AM (XZfdZ) Cunning Linguist Officer? Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:31 AM (ynpvh) 178
The software conversion has become a perpetual process that is never complete.
FB is doing a great job of continual updates, reconfigurations, etc. etc. We use it at work and it's a legit POS platform Posted by: kallisto at September 09, 2022 11:31 AM (dCxaZ) 179
Sorry for the double post. That’s not a Barrel-worthy offense, I hope.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at September 09, 2022 11:31 AM (XZfdZ) 180
Not related to the Aloha Snack-Bar, actually. I'd joke about laws restricting carry and ownership of swords, but they probably already exist in CA.
=== You'd be correct. I once pulled out a Buck 120 to cut a salami at the beach and a cop walked about 15 yards to tell me that knife was illegal in public. And that was in 1992. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 09, 2022 11:31 AM (u4CEu) 181
When I first started in Real Estate, everything was personal relationships. You went the extra mile because creating loyalty meant repeat business. Then came all the new internet apps, social media, virtual tours. No one came into an office anymore looking for personal service. The game changed dramatically. The only reason I lasted was because New Construction was still a type of home buying that required more than sales skills and builders do not have any social skills. But it is also the most stressful part of the business because you deal with that client for a very long time.
Glad I'm retired. Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 09, 2022 11:31 AM (Y+l9t) 182
I've been a Beltway Bandit for a few decades now. I'm as loyal to my (insert current employer here) as they are too me.
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 09, 2022 11:31 AM (D8mow) 183
So many theologians on the left.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 09, 2022 11:31 AM (t3/qz) 184
It's been said before, but unless you're working for a mom and pop, screw the whole "two week notice" thing. Get a job and take it. MultiNationCorp is not going to give you two weeks notice when they fire you so they can replace you with a foreigner.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - China is making you buy EVs, read to bottom at September 09, 2022 11:17 AM (0CG0Y) Uh, Employee 26445, you'll be receiving a tap on your shoulder in your cubicle in two weeks. There will be a man and a security guard. The man will have a bankers box into which you will place all your personal items that fit. You will be escorted to the door forthwith. Thank You. Posted by: Buddy at September 09, 2022 11:31 AM (FCbAQ) 185
please please please tell me this is true.
It's been complained about for what, two weeks? Black people this, black people that, and a white dude comes in and turns a valve? Posted by: Moron Robbie - China is making you buy EVs, read to bottom at September 09, 2022 11:29 AM (0CG0Y) Yes it is true. It was the Army Corp of Engineers though. I doubt the EPA did much. They literally had no idea of how to turn the pumps back on. The black lady in charge of the department was lost and she's been there for over 10 years. It is white man's magic to make pumps work. Posted by: WiNO - Amish Vampires in Space at September 09, 2022 11:31 AM (EpDzw) 186
165 Not related to the Aloha Snack-Bar, actually. I'd joke about laws restricting carry and ownership of swords, but they probably already exist in CA. What seems like a normal, law-abiding woman does what society tells her to do (get restraining order, trust police, don't get weapon to defend self) lets violent man commit a murder. Sad.
Posted by: Brady Gun Control Association at September 09, 2022 11:24 AM (JCZqz) Nope, totally legal to carry a sheathed sword in California, even in Government buildings. Why? It is still officially part of US Military Dress Uniforms. Believe me, as someone who participated in Competitive Historic Sword Fighting competitions for many years, we researched this whole thing. Posted by: Romeo13 at September 09, 2022 11:29 AM (oHd/0) concealed is different, and in Kali, knitting needles are considered knifes. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:32 AM (ynpvh) 187
So many theologians on the left.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 09, 2022 11:31 AM (t3/qz) You misspelled heretic Posted by: Buddy at September 09, 2022 11:32 AM (FCbAQ) 188
So super SMAHHHHHHRT Joe S and all the other stupid leftists want to say that anything Jesus didn't mention is permitted? So for example that little disgusting freak with his cannibal movie is all good because that wasn't mentioned?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 09, 2022 11:29 AM (llON ![]() Too bad that they don't have the same mindset about the Constitution and states rights. Posted by: polynikes at September 09, 2022 11:32 AM (ZB6WQ) 189
I love the line a motivational speaker named Les Brown who described his dead end job at Sears.
'I was working just hard enough to keep from being fired and they were paying just enough to keep me from quitting.' It's a mystery why Sears augered in. Posted by: Archimedes at September 09, 2022 11:32 AM (ayzS/) 190
THIS. I used to tell my kids about school - I can't care more about your homework than you do. And this is where I am with my company. I can't care more than they do. I am not capable of saving it if their shortsightedness is running it into the ground. I am trying to maintain a strict 8-5ness in my work. I "work from home" which gives me time to play hooky.
Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2022 11:11 AM (6TxNR) so much this for me. I still try to do my best, but some days it's impossible to find motivation. when it takes 8 months to determine the proper commercial impact of a project i'm working on, and i haven't even been in those discussions even though i'm the project LEAD, and i'm getting beat over the head from all sides with questions about why my projects are so over time, yeah it's hard to give a shit. i want to do more, and be that gung-ho guy, but every time i take a step forward, i get pushed back 2. and god forbid i try to do something to help another dept if travel is involved. Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsXQ) at September 09, 2022 11:32 AM (WhsXQ) 191
The problem with my occupation before I retired was the harder you worked the more work they gave you. It was a caseload type of system.
== Yeah. I work in what is basically a pyramid scheme. If you do well, they do pay you, but every year they increase your budget for the next year. Not really raising your salary, just your required budget. If you don't make budget, they hold back 10% of your salary. So its a disincentive/ incentive scheme that tends to cancel itself out. So you kind of get an on year and an off year, at the level at which a person is making enough to be satisfied. You also get a lot of turn over. Not sure they really thought it through. Oh well, I'm not in charge of anyone but myself. So I got that going for me. Posted by: I know right? at September 09, 2022 11:33 AM (uVubj) 192
Seems he missed the entire part of The Bible about the children.
* Something something millstone if I remember right. Posted by: Moron Robbie - China is making you buy EVs, read to bottom at September 09, 2022 11:33 AM (0CG0Y) 193
Ahh, sua sponte beat me to it.
Posted by: Sharkman at September 09, 2022 11:33 AM (OTj7Q) 194
183 So many theologians on the left.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 09, 2022 11:31 AM (t3/qz) yeah, but mostly of Marxism. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:33 AM (ynpvh) 195
This is true about corporate management, but it has been true of corporate management for a very long time. Anyone just noticing now probably was not paying attention before, and that in itself says something.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 09, 2022 11:33 AM (x61Im) 196
In my first job as a Jr. Accountant. my boss was somewhat amused at having to tell me that the direct, indirect, and opportunity costs of reprogramming a print job to eliminate 3 days of paper shuffling drudge work on my part would cost more than my annual salary.
"Keep up the good work, de Monet!" Posted by: Count de Monet at September 09, 2022 11:33 AM (4I/2K) 197
And then there’s the CIO, the most dangerously over-empowered position in corporate America ...
------- Which is more-and-more likely now to be the Chief Diversity Officer [and jim (in Kalifornia) has beaten to that mention]. Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 09, 2022 11:34 AM (/88Fu) 198
I usually tip in cash.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 09, 2022 11:29 AM (t3/qz) Likewise. Tip on the credit/debit card only when the cash in my pocket won't meet the tab. I have been known to leave a cash tip even if the main bill is on the CC. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 09, 2022 11:34 AM (aCu/h) 199
I worked at one place that needed a dry erase board out front because they changed names/corporations so frequently.
It became obvious the directors and managers were reorganizing mostly to keep things in an uproar so they could blame the crappy numbers on something. Their goal was to not fuck it up too much to keep them from hopping to a better paying gig. The meme in those days was: You can tell an aerospace guy by the resume in his back pocket. Posted by: Roland THTG at September 09, 2022 11:34 AM (j40lz) 200
This is true about corporate management, but it has been true of corporate management for a very long time. Anyone just noticing now probably was not paying attention before, and that in itself says something.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 09, 2022 11:33 AM (x61Im) I think it's rapidly gone from "common enough to be recognizable" to " ubiquitous". Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 09, 2022 11:35 AM (6FeV1) 201
Seems he missed the entire part of The Bible about the children.
* Something something millstone if I remember right. Posted by: Moron Robbie - China is making you buy EVs, read to bottom at September 09, 2022 11:33 AM (0CG They don't believe the unborn are children yet. Which of course is contradicted by verse also. Posted by: polynikes at September 09, 2022 11:35 AM (ZB6WQ) 202
FB is doing a great job of continual updates, reconfigurations, etc. etc. We use it at work and it's a legit POS platform
Posted by: kallisto at September 09, 2022 11:31 AM (dCxaZ) Constant updates are the bane of the software industry. It is a moving target of problems and chaos. MS 365 is a constant maze of changing locations. Sometimes, the links to the new location when take you to another location that will tell you this feature has moved yet again. Posted by: WiNO - Amish Vampires in Space at September 09, 2022 11:35 AM (EpDzw) 203
This is such complete bullshit. Slack-asses have been doing the bare minimum since the beginning of time.
This is just a rebranding of the LAZY. Posted by: insurgens ad opus at September 09, 2022 11:35 AM (537E3) 204
a combination of poor infrastructure, the climate crisis, and racism have contributed to a lack of clean drinking water
If you're going to willfully misdiagnose the problem, including postulating a root cause which is entirely imaginary construct, then you're never going to solve it. Then again, the Clinton Imp has never been accountable for solving a problem in his entire useless, worthless life. Posted by: spindrift at September 09, 2022 11:35 AM (h5TKJ) 205
Don't know where Jackson, MS gets it's water, but if it's from a groundwater aquifer like I suspect, there's not a lot of water treatment involved.
It's pretty much just pump it out and chlorinate it. Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 09, 2022 11:35 AM (UuD2k) 206
I don't disagree with this post, but in fairness the executives are only reacting to incentives given to them. This really started in the 1990s with crazy overvalued companies who's fat stock price bore no resemblance to their non-existing profits. Management was NOT incentivized to actually improve the business in the traditional sense. Management was incentivized to grow the stock price, which meant pursuing exaggerated growth at the expense of P&L. The goal was for a big cash-out in an IPO or sale.
Posted by: Elric Blade at September 09, 2022 11:35 AM (iFTx/) 207
I would be interested in knowing how many of these folks who opine about what Jesus would support- when it's left wing things- actually last read the Bible or have a regular prayer and devotional life? Not many, I expect.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 09, 2022 11:35 AM (wvo9L) 208
The absolutely worst part of the shit corporate culture, which I have experienced, where we were bluntly told that we were disposable and Chinese barracks workers were are competition, and we better get with the GOP program, was all the injuries.
That, and the obvious Commie working class backlash it was going to cause. I threw a useless vote at Obama over Romney as I worked at a Bain Shithole. Posted by: LenNeal at September 09, 2022 11:35 AM (U11/V) 209
145 "quiet quitting" is bad work ethic, selfishness, and sloth.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2022 11:26 AM (Ivdso) I don't think you read the content. Yes I am sure that there are people out there using the "quiet quit" as an excuse for not doing work that they otherwise would not be doing. As a Gen Xer I still have a work ethic built in and it kind of makes me sick to not live up to it - but it makes me sicker to bust my ass for people who do not deserve it. I've helped 5 companies get sold - only one has given me any payout from it. Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2022 11:35 AM (6TxNR) 210
You'd be correct. I once pulled out a Buck 120 to cut a salami at the beach and a cop walked about 15 yards to tell me that knife was illegal in public. And that was in 1992.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 09, 2022 11:31 AM (u4CEu) Pssst. Don't forget to tell the readers that the 120 is the General, an over 7 inch fixed blade knife with a sheath, and could blow your head clean off. Oh wait.... Posted by: Buddy at September 09, 2022 11:36 AM (FCbAQ) 211
“I am remaining just as loyal to this company as our executives are.”
A multi-national company will lay you off/fire you the second they don't see your salary as worth it to the company. So...loyalty here is...odd. For a smaller company this might be different, but in this case work is purely transactional and each employee should think of it that way. Posted by: 18-1 at September 09, 2022 11:36 AM (ESjRY) 212
@JoeNBC suggests Jesus Christ supported abortion: "Jesus never once talked about abortion. And it was happening back in ancient times. It was happening during his time. Never once mentioned it. For people perverting the gospel of Jesus Christ down to one issue, it is heresy."
Like the tool at Medium who wrote the article about how the Lord of the Rings isn't Christian and those crazy Christers are lying when they say it is. https://tinyurl.com/ycy5ns34 Its a war on God, these people hate Jesus and the Bible and are willing to lie in their zealotry for their own twisted evil religion. No matter how stupid or ignorant the lie. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2022 11:36 AM (Ivdso) 213
53...The company is not home and your fellow employees aren't family.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 09, 2022 11:13 AM (1Nxff) I always hated that b.s. I told my director once, I like the people on the team, but the team is not my family, and this is not my home. Posted by: Flyover at September 09, 2022 11:37 AM (Rbu5d) 214
Scanning LinkedIn, most of this quiet quitting is a byproduct of work/life balance and a demand for fulfillment through work.
The trouble is that it often feels like work/life balance means not working while still being able to afford that life part of things, mixed with every job with every company needing to be ABOUT SOMETHING or else. Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 09, 2022 11:37 AM (KbCG3) 215
Jesus also never explicitly mentions fucking animals. Does that mean I'm i heretic for saying "zip up your pants and step away from the chicken, Joe"?
== Nor felching, Mika, after she's been serviced. Well, Joe? Posted by: Would this get me kicked of twitter If I were on it? at September 09, 2022 11:37 AM (N2EhX) 216
I think quiet quitting would be the perfect thing for Cadaver Joe Biden. It would be like a Weekend at Bernie's. He could quit whenever he likes and we'll just drag is ass around like reanimated corpse.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 09, 2022 11:37 AM (w2Z7l) 217
Thank you for the post. It brought back fond, scarred memories.
Posted by: Splanky at September 09, 2022 11:37 AM (60R5T) 218
EPA didn't do shit in Jackson except talk - the currrent problem is that recent floods backflowed river water into the city water treatment system and now the entire system is contaminated. The overall problem is that Jackson's water system is completely broke because the city stopped making people pay water bills because that was Rayciss!! and now there are something like $35 million in accounts payable to the Water system that will never be payed.
the story people saw is that water pressure is now back on, so firefighting works and commodes can be flushed. However, all the water in the system is still contaminated and unfit to drink. Basically the entire city is now pressured up with sewer water in all the faucets. Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2022 11:37 AM (trdmm) 219
Are we close to the old Soviet Joke? We pretend to work and they pretend to pay us.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 09, 2022 11:37 AM (yQpMk) 220
This is such complete bullshit. Slack-asses have been doing the bare minimum since the beginning of time.
This is just a rebranding of the LAZY. Posted by: insurgens ad opus at September 09, 2022 11:35 AM (537E3) You're completely missing the point. This isn't about slackers. This is about conscientious good workers who finally realize their efforts are being shit on by Their Betters to such an extreme that they no longer care or try anymore. Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 09, 2022 11:37 AM (6FeV1) 221
In my first job as a Jr. Accountant. my boss was somewhat amused at having to tell me that the direct, indirect, and opportunity costs of reprogramming a print job to eliminate 3 days of paper shuffling drudge work on my part would cost more than my annual salary.
"Keep up the good work, de Monet!" Posted by: Count de Monet at September 09, 2022 11:33 AM (4I/2K) Ah, I've seen programmers get into that. Dave spends a week writing a program to automate a job that he spends 30 minutes on twice a year. Posted by: WiNO - Amish Vampires in Space at September 09, 2022 11:38 AM (EpDzw) 222
215 Jesus also never explicitly mentions fucking animals. Does that mean I'm i heretic for saying "zip up your pants and step away from the chicken, Joe"?
== Nor felching, Mika, after she's been serviced. Well, Joe? Posted by: Would this get me kicked of twitter If I were on it? at September 09, 2022 11:37 AM (N2EhX) Mohammed seemed okay with animals and children... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:38 AM (ynpvh) 223
It was there. They just couldn't find the switch to turn the pumps back on.
Posted by: WiNO - Amish Vampires in Space at September 09, 2022 11:29 AM (EpDzw) Just the the clitoris and the g-spot. Inscrutable unfathomable mysteries of life. Posted by: Count de Monet at September 09, 2022 11:38 AM (4I/2K) 224
I'll admit to doing a fair amount of slacking off (I'm here, aren't I?) But honestly, it's not so much slacking as I just don't have a whole lot to do. And my higher-ups know I don't have a whole lot to do. I'd really much rather be busy, since it makes the day go by faster.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 09, 2022 11:38 AM (DRSnL) 225
This is true about corporate management, but it has been true of corporate management for a very long time. Anyone just noticing now probably was not paying attention before, and that in itself says something.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver ** I think a lot of MAGA terrorists have had their eyes opened over the last few years of understanding that the wars and deaths were pointless and no, we're not doing that again, don't ask us, and that we knew corporations were slimy but still thought there was the system of "let's all get rich together" underneath. Watching the last few years of CEOs actively going against desires of consumers and shareholders and teaming up with the feds to enforce mandates and manipulate elections... Lots of people have a different perspective now. I won't fault them for believing in the old America for as long as they did. I did, too. Posted by: Moron Robbie - China is making you buy EVs, read to bottom at September 09, 2022 11:38 AM (0CG0Y) 226
When I want Bible interpretations, I always seek out a theologian such as Joe Scarborough.
![]() Posted by: Lady in Black at September 09, 2022 11:38 AM (sVtYq) 227
I've been a Beltway Bandit for a few decades now. I'm as loyal to my (insert current employer here) as they are too me.
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 09, 2022 11:31 AM (D8mow) That was the way in Silicon Valley. You got a raise or climbed the ladder by jumping ship every few years. The response was H1Bs. Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 09, 2022 11:38 AM (yHsuS) 228
Everything is pretty much broken right now, and it's accelerating because maniacs have been put in charge by maniac voters or simply stolen elections.
There is no path back to normalcy without a great deal of unpleasantness. Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 09, 2022 11:38 AM (4Nm5I) 229
My company just announced that it's effectively gutting IT. My particular site had already been pared down to the bone, with people not getting replaced even before I started here a few years ago. By the time the lockdown started, we were already running right along the edge after additional retirements. And now just this week they've announced that they're forcing my site lead into early retirement, and cutting my position. My immediate superior, who is expected to add my work load to his own, already has to divide his time between our site (his primary location) and other locations, some of which are a considerable distance away.
Worse, word that I'm hearing suggests that they're basically gutting the IT Security sections at the corporate level. My comment when I heard this was to ask whether the company execs were feeling suicidal. Posted by: junior at September 09, 2022 11:38 AM (XEO9p) 230
This is such complete bullshit. Slack-asses have been doing the bare minimum since the beginning of time.
This is just a rebranding of the LAZY. No, there's something new. The old lazy types weren't proud of their laziness and didn't advertise it. Now, they frame it as fighting the man. I guess it makes then feel better. However, I very much agree with the notion that if the company feels no loyalty to you, you have no loyalty to the company. You still put in a good day's work, because that's what you're paid to do, but you always have your eye on the next, presumably better, job. Posted by: Archimedes at September 09, 2022 11:38 AM (ayzS/) 231
I don't think you read the content.
Yeah I did, and its wrong. You don't work hard because your boss is nice or they're working hard. You work hard because that's your duty before God and the honorable thing to do for your paycheck. Morality is not based on what the other guy is doing. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2022 11:39 AM (Ivdso) 232
THERE'S NOTHING IN THAT BOOK ABOUT SHOWERING WITH YOUR DAUGHTER!!!
- President of the United States Joe Biden Posted by: Moron Robbie - China is making you buy EVs, read to bottom at September 09, 2022 11:39 AM (0CG0Y) 233
CEO, COO, CIO, CTO, CFO... Are there others? They seem to be growing.
Posted by: t-bird at September 09, 2022 11:23 AM (//PXO) CDO - Chief Diversity Officer. Yes, it exists. Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at September 09, 2022 11:39 AM (bnAdj) 234
Seems he missed the entire part of The Bible about the children.
* Something something millstone if I remember right. Posted by: Moron Robbie - China is making you buy EVs, read to bottom He said, "Suffer the little children" so abortion is fine. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 09, 2022 11:39 AM (FVME7) 235
My son works for a family owned company that was recently sold to a corporation. The corporation removed commissions on their wage structure and then wondered why no one was making any sales. Top men.
Posted by: Quirky bookworm at September 09, 2022 11:39 AM (gBvlU) 236
But good news! The CIO gets to attend the Super Bowl at the invitation of the software vendor. And even better, he has been engaged to speak at an all-expense paid conference in Bermuda! (Sponsored by the software vendor, of course.)
------- And just like political payoffs, you can bet that there are under-the-table monetary kickbacks from the software vendor to the corporate official(s) who make the buying decision. Just imagine Hunter Biden as your CIO ... Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 09, 2022 11:39 AM (/88Fu) 237
Here is my 'quiet quitting'
I do what is required at my job, but I work hard at home. I spend more personal capital in being a wife, a mother, a daughter, a sister, a friend, a part of my church and community. I take care of my family, my house and my neighbor. I flushed the hydraulic system in my car yesterday until the power steering fluid was clear. I work hard for the things that benefit my family. And for myself, because my husband fell in love with me all over again when he came home and saw me under the hood saving him money. Posted by: Miss Issippi at September 09, 2022 11:39 AM (sI15f) 238
226 When I want Bible interpretations, I always seek out a theologian such as Joe Scarborough.
Posted by: Lady in Black at September 09, 2022 11:38 AM (sVtYq) Hunter seems to be a good reference. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:39 AM (ynpvh) 239
This is just a rebranding of the LAZY.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at September 09, 2022 11:35 AM (537E3) What's the bare minimum? I'm not talking about the guy that goofs off and only looks busy when the boss is around. Is the guy who is ready to go at 9, works at a reasonable pace throughout the day, and leaves promptly at 5 a slacker? Posted by: WiNO - Amish Vampires in Space at September 09, 2022 11:40 AM (EpDzw) 240
Cultures change- and most of the time NOT for the better.
We had a very unusual and wonderful nexus in the early half of the 20th century. Then we intentionally set it on fire and have been coasting on the fumes ever since. The commies depend on the idea that they will be able to take what the previous generations made and keep everything going well enough for them to be lords and masters and live like kings and everything will be wonderful. Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 09, 2022 11:40 AM (5JqIf) 241
You'd be correct. I once pulled out a Buck 120 to cut a salami at the beach and a cop walked about 15 yards to tell me that knife was illegal in public. And that was in 1992.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 09, 2022 11:31 AM (u4CEu) Pssst. Don't forget to tell the readers that the 120 is the General, an over 7 inch fixed blade knife with a sheath, and could blow your head clean off. Oh wait.... == To be fair. Literally your average run of the mill kitchen knife out of the drawer, is "illegal" in public. Not even a carving knife. The muni laws on knives may limit you to a three inch blade. Posted by: I know right? at September 09, 2022 11:40 AM (X6GP4) 242
I feel like this blog entry was written about me.
I used to be passionate and driven. My reputation is known throughout this global corporation. But the company cut too many costs, which negatively affect customers and employees. And it adopted some woke corporate culture with pronouns in email signatures while our CEO wanted to make sure we understood that Biden won a "free and fair" election. Then came the vax mandates, which I refused to comply with. So now I just coast on the reputation I spent years building. You have to give the corporate machine the same level of commitment it gives you. Posted by: Brisco County Sr at September 09, 2022 11:40 AM (vVSvq) 243
229 Worse, word that I'm hearing suggests that they're basically gutting the IT Security sections at the corporate level. My comment when I heard this was to ask whether the company execs were feeling suicidal.
Posted by: junior at September 09, 2022 11:38 AM (XEO9p) I guess they're blissfully unaware of the damage a single system-wide intrusion can cause. Then again, they'll be the ones to ignore IT warnings and open up those links in that email they get. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:40 AM (ynpvh) 244
In a few years, we'll all be telling our grandkids about the time we lived with running water and electricity.
Well, you guys will. I'll be telling my cats. Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 09, 2022 11:40 AM (UuD2k) 245
Yes...a majority black city, governed by blacks for years, is a victim of racism.
The water facilities are run by a black woman, and have been for eight years. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo ___ They just haven't had the right black woman to run them yet. ![]() Posted by: SMH at September 09, 2022 11:41 AM (LClE5) 246
Also, way too many businesses are several generations of executives away from their founding.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 09, 2022 11:41 AM (5JqIf) 247
Apparently the Jackson water system is just working again. Nobody did nuffin. According to the reports. Which means it was probably due to local incompetence.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 09, 2022 11:41 AM (t3/qz) 248
Its a war on God, these people hate Jesus and the Bible and are willing to lie in their zealotry for their own twisted evil religion. No matter how stupid or ignorant the lie.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2022 11:36 AM (Ivdso) Whuh!? The Prince of Lies would lie? His minions would lie? Who'da thunk? Posted by: Buddy at September 09, 2022 11:41 AM (FCbAQ) 249
I think quiet quitting would be the perfect thing for Cadaver Joe Biden. It would be like a Weekend at Bernie's. He could quit whenever he likes and we'll just drag is ass around like reanimated corpse.
Posted by: Dr. Bone I think this has already happened.... Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 09, 2022 11:41 AM (Y+l9t) 250
Everything is pretty much broken right now, and it's accelerating because maniacs have been put in charge by maniac voters or simply stolen elections.
- Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 09, 2022 11:41 AM (FVME7) 251
CDO - Chief Diversity Officer. Yes, it exists.
Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at September 09, 2022 11:39 AM (bnAdj) My friend's husband was one of the first, at a NYC utility. This was back in the 1990s Posted by: kallisto at September 09, 2022 11:42 AM (dCxaZ) 252
Apparently the Jackson water system is just working again. Nobody did nuffin. According to the reports. Which means it was probably due to local incompetence.
___ Yep. Posted by: SMH at September 09, 2022 11:42 AM (LClE5) 253
The claim that the water system was so far gone it would take months or years to fix was apparently a scam to get emergency graft.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 09, 2022 11:42 AM (t3/qz) 254
244 In a few years, we'll all be telling our grandkids about the time we lived with running water and electricity.
Well, you guys will. I'll be telling my cats. Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 09, 2022 11:40 AM (UuD2k) I'll be pushing up daisies not long after my meds run out. It'll be for the better, trust me. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:42 AM (ynpvh) 255
252 Apparently the Jackson water system is just working again. Nobody did nuffin. According to the reports. Which means it was probably due to local incompetence.
___ Yep. Posted by: SMH at September 09, 2022 11:42 AM (LClE5) So embarrassing.but not surprising. Posted by: Miss Issippi at September 09, 2022 11:42 AM (sI15f) 256
The claim that the water system was so far gone it would take months or years to fix was apparently a scam to get emergency graft.
* GASP! Posted by: Moron Robbie - China is making you buy EVs, read to bottom at September 09, 2022 11:43 AM (0CG0Y) 257
Believe me, as someone who participated in Competitive Historic Sword Fighting competitions for many years, we researched this whole thing.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 09, 2022 11:29 AM (oHd/0) concealed is different, and in Kali, knitting needles are considered knifes. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:32 AM (ynpvh) True that... I usually carried my Main Gauche (parry dagger) in a sheath Horizontal across my back, to keep it out of the way, but had to carry it at my side if I was wearing a cloak that day... otherwise it was considered 'concealed'. And strangely? a CCW does NOT permit you to carry a concealed Knife... Posted by: Romeo13 at September 09, 2022 11:43 AM (oHd/0) 258
How did they get General Patton to do that PSA voiceover?
/I remember how disappointed I was upon first seeing the great George C. Scott start hawking some product in a television commercial ... Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 09, 2022 11:43 AM (/88Fu) Posted by: Buddy at September 09, 2022 11:43 AM (FCbAQ) 260
But still, the situation in Jackson, at it's root, is white supremacy and republican bigotry.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 09, 2022 11:43 AM (t3/qz) 261
This is such complete bullshit. Slack-asses have been doing the bare minimum since the beginning of time.
This is just a rebranding of the LAZY. Posted by: insurgens ad opus at September 09, 2022 11:35 AM (537E3) You're completely missing the point. This isn't about slackers. This is about conscientious good workers who finally realize their efforts are being shit on by Their Betters to such an extreme that they no longer care or try anymore. Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 09, 2022 11:37 AM (6FeV1) Exactly. Posted by: runner at September 09, 2022 11:43 AM (9jT0b) 262
In a few years, we'll all be telling our grandkids about the time we lived with running water and electricity.
- There were giants in the earth in those days . . . Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 09, 2022 11:43 AM (FVME7) 263
In a few years, we'll all be telling our grandkids about the time we lived with running water and electricity.
What did liberals use before candles? Electricity. Posted by: 18-1 at September 09, 2022 11:43 AM (ESjRY) 264
I am going to loudly quit sometime this fall or winter
Posted by: DB at September 09, 2022 11:43 AM (geLO8) 265
the story people saw is that water pressure is now back on, so firefighting works and commodes can be flushed. However, all the water in the system is still contaminated and unfit to drink. Basically the entire city is now pressured up with sewer water in all the faucets.
== at least you can get something into the house. Boiling it help? Probably still taste like sh!+. I dunno, I've never been in this situation. Posted by: I know right? at September 09, 2022 11:44 AM (nmcy8) 266
I was an hourly worker and when I quit, delivering letters as to why, I got an exit interview!
True Story. Hourly worker. I agreed to go into an office while a sniveling, worthless POS tried to get me on camera uttering a direct threat. What I told him was he was a sniveling, worthless, lazy piece of shit, and the way in which he went to Church locally and went on a pilgrimage to The Holy Land with souvenirs he displayed in his office was sickening. Haha I heard about it later Posted by: LenNeal at September 09, 2022 11:44 AM (U11/V) 267
252 Apparently the Jackson water system is just working again. Nobody did nuffin. According to the reports. Which means it was probably due to local incompetence.
___ Yep. Posted by: SMH at September 09, 2022 11:42 AM (LClE5) Which means whoever was in charge, will get a promotion! Posted by: Romeo13 at September 09, 2022 11:44 AM (oHd/0) 268
I looked this up sometime ago. Some major US cities and the last time they had a Republican mayor.
Atlanta - 1879 Baltimore - 1967 Chicago - 1931 Detroit - 1962 Milwaukee - 1908 Philadelphia - 1952 San Francisco - 1964 Washington DC - 1961 So 50+ years of Democrat rule and it's the Republicans' fault when things go to pot? Does this mean that the R's would have done better? Not necessarily, but seeing as how they haven't been given a chance to try is telling. Posted by: Stu Podaso at September 09, 2022 11:44 AM (wUHYj) 269
Speaking of this topic, this phenomenon of 'lying flat' has morphed into 'let it rot' in China:
After lying flat, a new trend among China's youth is to “let it rot (bai lan)” which worries CCP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgl-45gmoDE Posted by: SMH at September 09, 2022 11:44 AM (LClE5) 270
Constant updates are the bane of the software industry. It is a moving target of problems and chaos. MS 365 is a constant maze of changing locations. Sometimes, the links to the new location when take you to another location that will tell you this feature has moved yet again.
Posted by: WiNO - Amish Vampires in Space at September 09, 2022 11:35 AM (EpDzw) One of the worst IT decisions a company can make is to get in bed with this shit. You want the company that is famous for BSODs to run your communications and work collaborations. Smart. Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 09, 2022 11:44 AM (yHsuS) 271
They just haven't had the right black woman to run them yet.
Posted by: SMH at September 09, 2022 11:41 AM (LClE5) Heh. I have no doubt you would waste no time getting shit done. And then tell them to bring you more shit to fix. Posted by: Jordan61 at September 09, 2022 11:44 AM (DRSnL) 272
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'We always called them fuck-offs' I'm not a fuck off. I work my ass off for the time they pay me plus a little more. But I draw a hard line beyond 45 hours/week. I found that any company I have worked for will gladly let me work 55+ hours/week indefinitely and their loyalty to me never increases. Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 09, 2022 11:44 AM (ruYJi) 273
269 Speaking of this topic, this phenomenon of 'lying flat' has morphed into 'let it rot' in China:
After lying flat, a new trend among China's youth is to “let it rot (bai lan)” which worries CCP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgl-45gmoDE Posted by: SMH at September 09, 2022 11:44 AM (LClE5) Let it burn is so much catchier. Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 09, 2022 11:45 AM (b2nrj) Posted by: DB at September 09, 2022 11:45 AM (geLO8) 275
To be fair. Literally your average run of the mill kitchen knife out of the drawer, is "illegal" in public. Not even a carving knife. The muni laws on knives may limit you to a three inch blade.
Posted by: I know righ 5.5" in Texas Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2022 11:45 AM (jTdAu) 276
What's the bare minimum? I'm not talking about the guy that goofs off and only looks busy when the boss is around. Is the guy who is ready to go at 9, works at a reasonable pace throughout the day, and leaves promptly at 5 a slacker?
Good question. We had both salaried and hourly employees at my old lab. The salaried put in long hours, partly because that was the job, and partly because that was their nature. The hourly types did the absolute bare minimum. Posted by: Archimedes at September 09, 2022 11:45 AM (ayzS/) 277
CEO, COO, CIO, CTO, CFO... Are there others? They seem to be growing.
Posted by: t-bird at September 09, 2022 11:23 AM (//PXO) CDO - Chief Diversity Officer. Yes, it exists. CJO- Chief Jack Off Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 09, 2022 11:45 AM (u4CEu) Posted by: SMH at September 09, 2022 11:46 AM (LClE5) 279
The current managerial class, particularly those in our government, like their underlings incompetent and an off kilter kind of insubordinate.
Posted by: Brando at September 09, 2022 11:46 AM (5NjYz) 280
That Medium piece about LOTR, 99% of the comments are from polite leftists pointing out how the entire article is ridiculous nonsense. I'd say its just clickbait (almost all of Medium is), but this guy writes nothing BUT that kind of article: how Christians ripped books out of the Bible, how Jesus never said the word "God" in His parables, etc, etc.
Heh. I have no doubt you would waste no time getting shit done. And then tell them to bring you more shit to fix. That's exactly what I was thinking. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2022 11:46 AM (Ivdso) 281
275 To be fair. Literally your average run of the mill kitchen knife out of the drawer, is "illegal" in public. Not even a carving knife. The muni laws on knives may limit you to a three inch blade.
Posted by: I know righ 5.5" in Texas Posted by: rickb223 at September 09, 2022 11:45 AM (jTdAu) I thought everything was bigger in Texas... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:46 AM (ynpvh) 282
Ah, I've seen programmers get into that. Dave spends a week writing a program to automate a job that he spends 30 minutes on twice a year.
Posted by: WiNO - Amish Vampires in Space at September 09, 2022 11:38 AM (EpDzw) This was a monthly responsibility report by cost center detail that went out to the field offices and to home office directors and VPs. 4 sets of them. I maintained the hierarchal tables so that the cost centers rolled up correctly to each poobahs summary level totals. Idiot programmer had set the cost center reports to print out in ascending numerical order. My job was to separate all the reports and re-align them into rollup hierarchy order, then mail them out. I got to the point of memorizing the cost center numbers and their hierarchy in order to meet the mailout deadline. Posted by: Count de Monet at September 09, 2022 11:46 AM (4I/2K) 283
But still, the situation in Jackson, at it's root, is white supremacy and republican bigotry.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 09, 2022 11:43 AM (t3/qz) In fairness, I interviewed for a job in Jackson back in 1988 and was shocked at how racist it was there. Much worse than Birmingham or Mobile in the same time period. Posted by: G'rump928(c) at September 09, 2022 11:46 AM (yQpMk) 284
Current president of my business unit for a big data company wrote to all of the employees after the MN police killed someone. I think we later found out the guy was armed or something but in his caring, heartfelt email, he spelled the guys name wrong.
He then followed up with a correction. It hit so close to home because he used to live in MN 10 years ago so Deshaun or Dayshawn or whatever was like a brother. Soooooo cringy. Posted by: MJ at September 09, 2022 11:47 AM (zwDuR) 285
164 I usually tip in cash.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 09, 2022 11:29 AM (t3/qz) If everyone, or a substantial portion greater than half, did as you do, you would break the system at one of my jobs. Pay is structured in such a way that you have various individuals taking care of different tasks. A food runner to take food from the kitchen to the table. A drink runner to take drinks from the drink station or bar to the tables. A bartender to prepare drinks for the table. The interface is the server. The company pays the bartender and various runners substandard wages, then charges the server a percentage of their sales in various columns and distributes that to the other positions. For instance if a server rings in $100 worth of alcohol, the server will pay the bartender $4 at the end of the shift. If they ring in $1000 worth of food, they will pay the food runner $10. Etc, etc. But the server is also paid a substandard wage. So if the server did $2000 in total sales and owed $100 in total tip outs, they are only making maybe $20 in hourly pay that shift. So the tip out is pulled from their credit card tips. .... Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 09, 2022 11:47 AM (nPfQJ) 286
In the Navy we had the SLJO. The "shitty little jobs officer".
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 09, 2022 11:47 AM (UuD2k) 287
255 252 Apparently the Jackson water system is just working again. Nobody did nuffin. According to the reports. Which means it was probably due to local incompetence.
___ Yep. Posted by: SMH at September 09, 2022 11:42 AM (LClE5) So embarrassing.but not surprising. Posted by: Miss Issippi at September 09, 2022 11:42 AM (sI15f) it's more like "hey ya know all those rules we had about water quality and not drinking untreated water? Ehh, faggeddaboudit, just drink it , you'll be fine. " Posted by: Tom Servo at September 09, 2022 11:47 AM (trdmm) 288
The claim that the water system was so far gone it would take months or years to fix was apparently a scam to get emergency graft.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, Pennsylvania Dad, Defiant! at September 09, 2022 11:42 AM (t3/qz) ------- In many ways, this too is the story of the Muriel Bus Lift* and D.C.'s "PUBLIC EMERGENCY" request yesterday for FEMA funds ... [* h/t BurtTC] Posted by: ShainS -- Go Galt or Go Rome at September 09, 2022 11:47 AM (/88Fu) 289
145 "quiet quitting" is bad work ethic, selfishness, and sloth.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2022 11:26 AM (Ivdso) * * * * I disagree, but know where you are coming from. Quiet quitting is nothing more than a hard worker waking the hell up and smelling the coffee. The motivation is externally imposed, and not originating internally as it would be for bad work ethic, selfishness and sloth. Posted by: Legally Sufficient at September 09, 2022 11:47 AM (L/KCM) 290
I didn't quiet quit, I left since they forced the shot. I found another university that needed someone with my experience and skills which didn't require the shot. And so that's that.
But as far as hustle, I like to be the one everyone looks to to figure out the problem with the instrument. It's my funny quirk that I will work about as hard as I can to be th go to guy even if it doesn't gain me anything. I have dialed back a bit, but nobody would really notice. that's mostly due to kids cause really that's what's important to me now - time with the kids. Posted by: InZona (formerly InCali) at September 09, 2022 11:47 AM (ep37o) 291
>>Apparently the Jackson water system is just working again. Nobody did nuffin. According to the reports. Which means it was probably due to local incompetence.
Or it means that Whitey could have turned that water back on at any time but chose not to. Not until the good leaders of Jackson made a stink about it. (that's the version the MSM will go with) Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at September 09, 2022 11:47 AM (bnAdj) 292
Pssst. Don't forget to tell the readers that the 120 is the General, an over 7 inch fixed blade knife with a sheath, and could blow your head clean off. Oh wait....
== To be fair. Literally your average run of the mill kitchen knife out of the drawer, is "illegal" in public. Not even a carving knife. The muni laws on knives may limit you to a three inch blade. Posted by: I know right? at September 09, 2022 11:40 AM (X6GP4) Of course. And some cops (and regular folks) hate the sight of a knife in public of any size. But he's the one that specifically mentioned the 120, and it's no nail clipper swiss army knife. I know. I have one Posted by: Buddy at September 09, 2022 11:47 AM (FCbAQ) 293
Jordan!
Nepotism and stupidity rarely maintains anything, especially when everyone is phoning it in. Literally. Posted by: SMH at September 09, 2022 11:47 AM (LClE5) 294
Does this mean that the R's would have done better?
Part of the problem in the Big Blue Shitholes is that the government employees KNOW they don't have to do better. Whether it is fraud or willful ignorance of the voters, you can be objectively the shittiest, most government Dem government solon and you'll get re-elected. It would be *smart* on the part of the cities to dumb leftist mayors every so often even if they did just want leftist policy. But...that's not what's happening. Posted by: 18-1 at September 09, 2022 11:48 AM (ESjRY) 295
That interview! I heard about it
"You're a piece of shit." "Why do you feel this way?" "Because you are." Posted by: LenNeal at September 09, 2022 11:48 AM (U11/V) 296
You work hard because that's your duty before God and the honorable thing to do for your paycheck. Morality is not based on what the other guy is doing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2022 11:39 AM (Ivdso) We got a live one here. Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 09, 2022 11:48 AM (yHsuS) 297
CJO- Chief Jack Off
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 09, 2022 11:45 AM (u4CEu) Biden's Indian name? Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 09, 2022 11:48 AM (6FeV1) 298
de Monet -- your boss was a short-sighted idiot.
Posted by: FriscoYoda at September 09, 2022 11:48 AM (S7une) 299
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>> Not necessarily, but seeing as how they haven't been given a chance to try is telling. Well NYC was at it's zenith under Republican *mayors not too long ago and fell to complete shit once they switched to Donks. * Yeah Bloomberg was nominally a Republican but he pretty much continued Giuliani's policies but went stark raving mad in his 3rd term and last term. Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 09, 2022 11:49 AM (4Nm5I) 300
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If those tips were in cash, say 75% of them, the server would not have enough credit card tips to cover the tip out liability. They could wind up with a negative wage or a wage that does not meet minimum wage requirements. Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 09, 2022 11:49 AM (nPfQJ) 301
In the Navy we had the SLJO. The "shitty little jobs officer".
Posted by: sniffybigtoe We just called him "ENS Pulver" ![]() Posted by: Tonypete at September 09, 2022 11:49 AM (LsEU/) 302
Soooooo cringy.
Posted by: MJ at September 09, 2022 11:47 AM (zwDuR) that's the outcome when one overcompensates due to one being a racist at heart Posted by: kallisto at September 09, 2022 11:49 AM (dCxaZ) 303
The motivation is externally imposed, and not originating internally as it would be for bad work ethic, selfishness and sloth.
The motivation always comes from within. The excuse comes from without. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2022 11:50 AM (Ivdso) 304
To be fair. Literally your average run of the mill kitchen knife out of the drawer, is "illegal" in public. Not even a carving knife. The muni laws on knives may limit you to a three inch blade.
Posted by: I know righ 5.5" in Texas == I know you don't live in liberal Austin, but they may have a city ordinance that limits it even more than the state law allows. You see this kind of crap in the north. If your city council is mostly libs, you can get all kinds of silly crap. Now if its in the Texas constitution that you can carry a knife with a 5 1/2 inch blade you can ignore the city ordinance. Posted by: I know right? at September 09, 2022 11:50 AM (nmcy8) 305
This was one reason why the Europeans hated the Jews so much. They worked hard and prospered while the serfs only did the bare minimum to get by.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 09, 2022 11:50 AM (UuD2k) 306
@239 What's the bare minimum? I'm not talking about the guy that goofs off and only looks busy when the boss is around. Is the guy who is ready to go at 9, works at a reasonable pace throughout the day, and leaves promptly at 5 a slacker?
--- Yeah, I don't think this is "lazy". People were raised on the mantra, "Work hard at your job, work extra hours when needed, put in that extra bit of effort, and you'll get a raise/promoted". Well, people are now discovering that if they put in the extra bit of effort to work hard, they'll be laid off by someone half-way across the country who only has the most vague idea what the department he's picked for "cost-cutting" actually does. Posted by: junior at September 09, 2022 11:50 AM (XEO9p) 307
This is, to a degree, me. I was proud to work for my company, put in a lot of extra time, enthusiastically bought and wore company swag. Then there was 2020. Between being beaten over the head with equity and eventually being threatened with job loss because of the Rona "vax," my loyalty bottomed out. The equity training (which due to my role I sometimes had to lead) really had me on the edge of "if they say XXXX in training I'm going to quit." I still do my job with requisite efficiency, don't let things fall behind, and look out for the people who report to me. But I sure as hell don't cheerlead anymore or stay late to finish up as a matter of course.
Posted by: She Hobbit at September 09, 2022 11:51 AM (ftFVW) 308
We live In a country led by a drooling moron pretender to the throne. The leading candidate for senate in PA is another brain-damaged retard and literally everyone knows this but he still leads. Notably, neither have ever worked a real job in their lives. People look and say- he rules me? By what right? Very hard to square the traditional American work ethic, which befits a serious people, with our fundamentally unserious rule by diversicrat incompetents.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at September 09, 2022 11:51 AM (0/1yG) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 09, 2022 11:51 AM (FVME7) 310
Nope, totally legal to carry a sheathed sword in California, even in Government buildings...Believe me, as someone who participated in Competitive Historic Sword Fighting competitions for many years, we researched this whole thing.
Posted by: Romeo13 at September 09, 2022 11:29 AM So, you're saying you're part of the problem, eh? Let me just update your file, uncooperative citizen. Posted by: NSA Bob, data sharing with the State of California at September 09, 2022 11:52 AM (JCZqz) 311
'We always called them fuck-offs'
I'm not a fuck off. I work my ass off for the time they pay me plus a little more. But I draw a hard line beyond 45 hours/week. I found that any company I have worked for will gladly let me work 55+ hours/week indefinitely and their loyalty to me never increases. Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 09, 2022 11:44 AM (ruYJi) For some places, agree absolutely. It depends on the boss though. Case in point: 3 years ago my boss asked me to take over a site because it was a clown show. I said no because I knew the site and knew what it would require and that the customer's own culture would not help anything as far as what would have to be done. He said: come on. (all of this was known between him and HIS boss because of how they approached me. They pitched it to me as a year only and a sizeable raise.) I bitched and moaned but said I would do it- for a year. (cont) Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 09, 2022 11:52 AM (5JqIf) 312
Even the infamously hard working Koreans are starting to grasp that there's a societal price to be paid for making life about nothing but work. Their fertility rates are in the basement and excavating further. It's so bad, the government is telling people to go home and get a life.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 09, 2022 11:52 AM (ayzS/) 313
The covid mania blew up a lot of corporate loyalty. When you know that your sales department will demand you make irreversible bodily changes just so they can close a sale, your willingness to go to the wall goes in the tank.
How can you stick your neck out for someone who will cut it off without a second thought? Posted by: Voyager at September 09, 2022 11:52 AM (u5PZm) 314
Covid exposed a lot, first it was the absolute devotion of management to BLM/Social Justice/DEI after the George Floyd incident. Then the betrayal of long loyal employees over the vaccine.
Posted by: Hollywood at September 09, 2022 11:53 AM (m/BI6) 315
There's a reason this new term "quiet quitting" is being bandied about. It's a different phenomenon than simple slacking off. Perhaps the noble thing to do is to quit outright, but when you're staring down the double barrel of the economic shitstorm on the horizon, giving up your means of subsistence that your family depends on over some quixotic adherence to a code of honor that no one else is adhering to is itself immoral.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 09, 2022 11:53 AM (6FeV1) 316
145 "quiet quitting" is bad work ethic, selfishness, and sloth. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2022 11:26 AM (Ivdso Hardly - I work for a Fortune 500 company, but a strange-ish one that necessarily has a structure much more like a small business. Everybody works hard and plays hard. So I do. If I worked for a large company like most people who do, I'd be fuckin' right off like the bosses. People follow leadership examples. If it doesn't matter to the leadership, it doesn't matter to the rank and file. End of story. This is a function of bad management, selfishness, and dishonesty. If you worked for, say, Enron, you should have been robbing the place blind, just like your bosses. It's the corporate culture, and if it's good enough for Jeff Skilling, it's good enough for you. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 09, 2022 11:53 AM (oINRc) 317
We live In a country led by a drooling moron pretender to the throne. The leading candidate for senate in PA is another brain-damaged retard and literally everyone knows this but he still leads. Notably, neither have ever worked a real job in their lives. People look and say- he rules me? By what right? Very hard to square the traditional American work ethic, which befits a serious people, with our fundamentally unserious rule by diversicrat incompetents.
Posted by: Farmer Bob ___ Hooah. Well stated. Posted by: SMH at September 09, 2022 11:53 AM (LClE5) 318
304 To be fair. Literally your average run of the mill kitchen knife out of the drawer, is "illegal" in public. Not even a carving knife. The muni laws on knives may limit you to a three inch blade.
Posted by: I know righ 5.5" in Texas == I know you don't live in liberal Austin, but they may have a city ordinance that limits it even more than the state law allows. You see this kind of crap in the north. If your city council is mostly libs, you can get all kinds of silly crap. Now if its in the Texas constitution that you can carry a knife with a 5 1/2 inch blade you can ignore the city ordinance. Posted by: I know right? at September 09, 2022 11:50 AM (nmcy ![]() In, I believe it was, Del Mar, California, they outlawed smoking in your own back yard if it was within a certain distance of a public sidewalk. Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 11:53 AM (ynpvh) 319
It's so bad, the government is telling people to go home and get a life.
Posted by: Archimedes at September 09, 2022 11:52 AM (ayzS/) I'd I have volunteered to go fertilize their women. Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 09, 2022 11:53 AM (UuD2k) 320
If your mayor is always talking about global warming, income inequality and systemic racism, your garbage isn't being picked up and you're likely to get mugged downtown. Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at September 09, 2022 11:53 AM (1Nxff) 321
I probably missed it but you left out the poor COOs and CFOs trying to hold shit together while the CEO constantly f*cks everything up?
Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 09, 2022 11:53 AM (w0NJk) 322
Pssst. Don't forget to tell the readers that the 120 is the General, an over 7 inch fixed blade knife with a sheath, and could blow your head clean off. Oh wait....
Posted by: Buddy == Not to mention that mine had the chainsaw attachment. But seriously I have hacked down 3 inch diameter trees with that thing. Buck hard to dull. Harder to sharpen. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 09, 2022 11:53 AM (u4CEu) 323
Amusingly quiet quitting and lay flat are both the same core problems of socialism.
Imagine you make widgets individually - your salary will mostly be determined by how hard you work, and directly so. How many widgets did you make and sell today? In a socialist society you go to the factory and do whatever they tell you. Then they give you a check, that has little to no basis on how many widgets you made. In our mixed system it is closer to the socialist system. How many widgets did you make today at Widget Inc? Does Globo-Mega-Widget-Co know? Are they going to give you a raise if you do make more? Probably not. So people are incentivized to do whatever the big corp actually wants...what is more and more just mouthing woke shit and coming up with BS metrics that have little to no tie to a bottom line Posted by: 18-1 at September 09, 2022 11:54 AM (ESjRY) 324
People were raised on the mantra, "Work hard at your job, work extra hours when needed, put in that extra bit of effort, and you'll get a raise/promoted".
Which was largely untrue at every time, especially now. Doing your job properly is working the hours you were paid in good faith to the best of your ability. Extra hours and all that is up to you, but isn't part of a proper work ethic. Again, we should work hard because that's the right thing to do, not because we expect special rewards and benefits for it. Doing things out of expectation of reward and special treatment is just selfish and not honoring a basic duty to your employer. "A workman is worthy of his hire" works two ways: you should pay people what they are worth, and you should work for the money you get paid. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2022 11:54 AM (Ivdso) Posted by: Moron Robbie - China is making you buy EVs, read to bottom at September 09, 2022 11:55 AM (0CG0Y) 326
Nope, totally legal to carry a sheathed sword in California, even in Government buildings...Believe me, as someone who participated in Competitive Historic Sword Fighting competitions for many years, we researched this whole thing.
== So in Ohio, if you are on your way to a martial arts tourney, or an exhibition, or practice, you are okay. If you are strolling about at the local amusement park or mall, you are going to have a problem. Posted by: I know right? at September 09, 2022 11:55 AM (iI/R6) 327
If those tips were in cash, say 75% of them, the server would not have enough credit card tips to cover the tip out liability.
They could wind up with a negative wage or a wage that does not meet minimum wage requirements. Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 09, 2022 11:49 AM (nPfQJ) Sounds like a good incentive for quality service people to look for jobs in houses that don't practice that bullshit. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 09, 2022 11:55 AM (aCu/h) 328
We live In a country led by a drooling moron pretender to the throne. The leading candidate for senate in PA is another brain-damaged retard and literally everyone knows this but he still leads. Notably, neither have ever worked a real job in their lives. People look and say- he rules me? By what right? Very hard to square the traditional American work ethic, which befits a serious people, with our fundamentally unserious rule by diversicrat incompetents.
Posted by: Farmer Bob * Dang. That should be an addendum to the main post. Posted by: Moron Robbie - China is making you buy EVs, read to bottom at September 09, 2022 11:56 AM (0CG0Y) 329
This reminds me of the initial interview Peter has with the Bobs in The Office.
He has 17 different bosses that are looking to yell at him if he screws up. So he does the bare minimum to not be noticed and yelled at. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable a Clear and Present Danger at September 09, 2022 11:56 AM (u4CEu) Posted by: Archimedes at September 09, 2022 11:56 AM (ayzS/) 331
In our mixed system it is closer to the socialist system. How many widgets did you make today at Widget Inc? Does Globo-Mega-Widget-Co know? Are they going to give you a raise if you do make more? Probably not.
So people are incentivized to do whatever the big corp actually wants...what is more and more just mouthing woke shit and coming up with BS metrics that have little to no tie to a bottom line Posted by: 18-1 at September 09, 2022 11:54 AM (ESjRY) It's not that we don't know how to make good incentive structures, it's that we don't make good incentive structures. Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 09, 2022 11:56 AM (b2nrj) 332
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 09, 2022 11:47 AM (nPfQJ)
I often tip in cash, especially since what you describe was told to me by a friend who was a bartender/bar manager. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 09, 2022 11:56 AM (XIJ/X) 333
How can you stick your neck out for someone who will cut it off without a second thought?
Posted by: Voyager This. Organizational loyalty has been distressingly one-way for a long time, but it took COVID to make it so blaringly obvious. Is it any wonder some people decided it wasn't worth it any more? Posted by: Brother Tim...as the man said, the die is cast at September 09, 2022 11:56 AM (OUMaO) Posted by: Mungo at September 09, 2022 11:57 AM (1APKY) 335
Quite Quitting is just another phrasefor lazy as fuck GenZers. But more polite.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 09, 2022 11:57 AM (MZ+fk) 336
Used to be that when a company got all retarded and no longer served the customers a group of employees would quit for real and start a new company.
But that's like old school capitalism and nobody does that anymore. Posted by: These Fish Sticks Are Hard As Tits at September 09, 2022 11:57 AM (3AD8C) 337
What is most galling to employees is that the old, user-friendly system is invariably replaced with a more complicated system that will likely have a loss of critical functionality, requiring manual tasks to perform what were mechanized before the conversion “improved” the systems.
Place I'm working at now did a "software conversion" for their ERP system a few years ago. Nearly killed the company, and damn sure pissed off a lot of customers. So now we're racing headlong into "the cloud." Because the costs are deductible this year instead of spread out over five years. Yeah, this should go well. Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at September 09, 2022 11:57 AM (Bd6X8) 338
→HR← is the problem. I would say more but, don't want to be banned.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 09, 2022 11:57 AM (A7urr) 339
Damn fine podcast up today
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It's not that we don't know how to make good incentive structures, it's that we don't make good incentive structures.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! We're not incentivized to properly incentivize? Who knew? Posted by: Brother Tim...as the man said, the die is cast at September 09, 2022 11:58 AM (OUMaO) 341
EV are not totally worthless!
Christopher Yang@ChrisYangMD I performed what is likely the world's first @Rivian powered vasectomy today. Power in clinic went out, patient didn't want to reschedule cause he already had time off. Electrocautery was normal, procedure went great! #rivianstories #rivian Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 09, 2022 11:58 AM (FVME7) 342
Amusingly quiet quitting and lay flat are both the same core problems of socialism.
Right, its an inevitable result of communism and it is a preventable flaw of capitalism. That is to say: if you follow the tenets of communism, that's how most people will act. Its the end result of sinful humanity. If you follow the tenets of communism, its how people will act without a virtuous society or a strong moral code. And it works both sides of the equation: bosses become corrupted and tyrannical without that ethic, workers become lazy and thieving without it. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2022 11:58 AM (Ivdso) 343
This is me. Years ago I ran a project that "Had to succeed!" I am salary. I worked 60 hour 5 day weeks. I came in on weekends and holidays. The project was a technical success, but marketing could not sell the final product so management decided it was a failure.
Fast forward to performance review time and I get a poor review and no raise. "We do not reward failure" is what I was told. Never mind that the part of the project I was responsible for was a success. Since marketing failed, I failed. Then I pointed out all of the extra time I put in and asked if I didn't deserve some compensation for that. Management replied "We don't reward people for working more than 40 hours. In fact, we think you're stupid if you do." OK boss. Message received: loud and clear. On that day I stopped working more than 40 hours a week. They pay me for that, they get their 40 and not a second more. This is not quiet quitting - this is not being a fool. Posted by: Chemist at September 09, 2022 11:58 AM (HJMJw) 344
231. Agree. Having pride in your work and the effort needed is mentally satisfying and soul comforting at the end of the day.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 09, 2022 11:58 AM (JG54y) 345
My favorite is shitstains claiming beaurocratic immunity. I'm just doing my job within the organization.
I told that exit interviewer Yeah that didn't work for the Nazis at Nuremberg how's that gonna work out for YOU motherfucker? You are PERSONALLY responsible for everything you do and or facilitate period The End. No Just Doing My Job. Posted by: LenNeal at September 09, 2022 11:59 AM (U11/V) 346
I was told there would be no widgets on this blog.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 09, 2022 11:59 AM (kXYt5) 347
Sounds like a good incentive for quality service people to look for jobs in houses that don't practice that bullshit.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 09, 2022 11:55 AM (aCu/h) You are correct. Which is part of why I'm interviewing this afternoon at another establishment before I go into work. Unfortunately as more and more of the market gets gobbled up by corporatism, there is an ever shrinking list of places to go. Everything is getting homogenized. Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 09, 2022 11:59 AM (nPfQJ) 348
Good topic Buck.
Posted by: Skip's phone at September 09, 2022 11:59 AM (xx3bE) Posted by: MJ at September 09, 2022 11:59 AM (zwDuR) 350
Christopher Yang@ChrisYangMD
I performed what is likely the world's first @Rivian powered vasectomy today. Power in clinic went out, patient didn't want to reschedule cause he already had time off. Electrocautery was normal, procedure went great! #rivianstories #rivian Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 09, 2022 11:58 AM (FVME7) It's funny because you'd have to be a surgeon to afford a Rivian. Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 09, 2022 11:59 AM (UuD2k) 351
'Work heartily as to the Lord'. Read that somewhere.
Posted by: Eromero at September 09, 2022 12:00 PM (gktX6) 352
Pt2
Damn laptop battery. Essentially, I managed to get things turned around. Working 70 hour weeks. Covid hit in the middle of it and when we came back it was even worse. At about a year and six months, I finally snapped and put in my two weeks. My boss got in a great replacement. Then when the two weeks was up he asked me if I would stay. Then he gave me softball assignments for about a year. Drove me crazy, but he returned the loyalty that I had given. Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at September 09, 2022 12:00 PM (5JqIf) 353
We live In a country led by a drooling moron pretender to the throne. The leading candidate for senate in PA is another brain-damaged retard and literally everyone knows this but he still leads. Notably, neither have ever worked a real job in their lives. People look and say- he rules me? By what right? Very hard to square the traditional American work ethic, which befits a serious people, with our fundamentally unserious rule by diversicrat incompetents.
Posted by: Farmer Bob The media and the media and the Democratic Party itself can't lower the bar enough for Democratic candidates for office there is no incentive for even minimal competence, honesty, integrity, nonpervertiness and brain function. Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 09, 2022 12:00 PM (eGTCV) 354
True Story! Haha I heard about it later, too funny everyone hated that hypocritical piece of shit
Posted by: LenNeal at September 09, 2022 12:00 PM (U11/V) 355
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'Jesus never once talked about abortion.' This line of argument always makes me so God-damn mad. There were a lot of things Jesus didn't talk about because He had a short time a stuck to the important points. He also didn't tell people not to eat dog crap too. He expected people to figure that out without His help. Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 09, 2022 12:01 PM (ruYJi) 356
>Christopher Yang@ChrisYangMD
I performed what is likely the world's first @Rivian powered vasectomy today. GOSH I WANT THAT TRUCK NOW Posted by: DB at September 09, 2022 12:01 PM (geLO8) 357
I saw a Rivian today about an hour ago. Whoever designed the front of that thing needs to loudly quit. Yeeeeah.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 09, 2022 12:01 PM (MZ+fk) Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 09, 2022 12:01 PM (A7urr) 359
54 years of self-employment.
Posted by: Ben Had at September 09, 2022 12:01 PM (izeNO) 360
Agree. Having pride in your work and the effort needed is mentally satisfying and soul comforting at the end of the day.
Posted by: Jen the original ___ This^ Hubs feels this way as an electrician, and his customers compliment his work. "That's a pretty box. Here, take more of my money." Posted by: SMH at September 09, 2022 12:01 PM (LClE5) 361
O T. Stuart Varney just reported a bit of trivia. Guess who was in the Westminster Abbey choir when Queen Elizabeth was coronated there in 1952? Yes it was Keith Richards.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 09, 2022 12:01 PM (JG54y) 362
Having pride in your work and the effort needed is mentally satisfying and soul comforting at the end of the day.
Posted by: Jen the original Which is true, but when the bills ain't getting paid, or you get laid off because it gave someone else a bigger bonus, it's a fair question whether that's enough. And realistically, it isn't. Posted by: Brother Tim...as the man said, the die is cast at September 09, 2022 12:01 PM (OUMaO) 363
There were a lot of things Jesus didn't talk about because He had a short time a stuck to the important points.
And technically, He did, as a member of the trinity, when He as God wrote the ten commandments telling people to not murder... Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2022 12:02 PM (Ivdso) 364
Submitted for your approval.
https://bit.ly/3d80Gmt Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 09, 2022 11:51 AM (FVME7) Disapproved. Clip the Not the Bee link from the end of the url. There's a bunch of twitter url garbage at the head of the link. Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 09, 2022 12:02 PM (yHsuS) 365
200 This is true about corporate management, but it has been true of corporate management for a very long time. Anyone just noticing now probably was not paying attention before, and that in itself says something. Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 09, 2022 11:33 AM (x61Im A co-worker and I used to discuss this very topic when having our smoke break back in the mid-90's. This isn't new. Main caveat to any startup company with decent growth is when it goes corporate and starts selling stocks. It's all downhill from there. Incorporation absolutely sucks all the fun and ambition out it's employees. It becomes "all for the management team" then. Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at September 09, 2022 12:02 PM (BdMk6) 366
They'll just hire an H1B. You get the software jargon BS with an accent.
Posted by: DaveA at September 09, 2022 12:02 PM (FhXTo) 367
>'Jesus never once talked about abortion.'
This line of argument always makes me so God-damn mad. Jesus also never talked about the designated hitter rule or whether a hot dog was a sandwich so what HE STAYED IN HIS LANE Posted by: DB at September 09, 2022 12:02 PM (geLO8) 368
Christopher Yang@ChrisYangMD
I performed what is likely the world's first @Rivian powered vasectomy today. Power in clinic went out, patient didn't want to reschedule cause he already had time off. Electrocautery was normal, procedure went great! #rivianstories #rivian * Wow. That seems wildly irresponsible. But these are the same people who insist you mask up and not question the government or try any other medications for what is supposed to be an unknown virus with an all-hands-on-deck attempt to find relief. Except for stuff that works. Don't use that. Regardless, do doctors not have some sort of set requirement for surgeries? "Running an elective surgery on a generator because YOLO" doesn't seem like a great idea. Posted by: Moron Robbie - China is making you buy EVs, read to bottom at September 09, 2022 12:02 PM (0CG0Y) 369
355 97
'Jesus never once talked about abortion.' This line of argument always makes me so God-damn mad. There were a lot of things Jesus didn't talk about because He had a short time a stuck to the important points. He also didn't tell people not to eat dog crap too. He expected people to figure that out without His help. Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 09, 2022 12:01 PM (ruYJi) It was an existing moral standard and is in The Didache, clear evidence regarding what first generation Christians believed. Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 09, 2022 12:02 PM (b2nrj) 370
"That's a pretty box. Here, take more of my money."
Posted by: SMH at September 09, 2022 12:01 PM (LClE5) Phrasing? Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 09, 2022 12:02 PM (Y5qcH) 371
On that day I stopped working more than 40 hours a week. They pay me for that, they get their 40 and not a second more.
This is not quiet quitting - this is not being a fool. You're just managing your time better. Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at September 09, 2022 12:02 PM (Bd6X8) 372
Imagine you make widgets individually - your salary will mostly be determined by how hard you work, and directly so. How many widgets did you make and sell today?
And if you make too many widgets, the union guy stops by and yells at you. Posted by: Roland THTG at September 09, 2022 12:02 PM (j40lz) 373
Have worked with slackers and quiters who want to be laid off or fired.
Posted by: Skip's phone at September 09, 2022 12:02 PM (xx3bE) 374
Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 09, 2022 12:01 PM (ruYJi)
All very true. He also wasn't a 21st century American leftist. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 09, 2022 12:03 PM (wvo9L) Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 09, 2022 12:03 PM (nPfQJ) 376
I once filled out my annual self-evaluation sheet and included this:
"In the meantime I shall endeavour to persevere." Posted by: Muldoon at September 09, 2022 12:03 PM (kXYt5) 377
On that day I stopped working more than 40 hours a week. They pay me for that, they get their 40 and not a second more. This is not quiet quitting - this is not being a fool.
That's how I see it. But to folks that are personally invested in believing that life is a meritocracy, your attitude and mine are pretty much sacrilege. Posted by: AC30 at September 09, 2022 12:03 PM (DkUsn) 378
I performed what is likely the world's first @Rivian powered vasectomy today.
Rivian? Is that like a Sybian? Posted by: Archimedes at September 09, 2022 12:03 PM (ayzS/) 379
Ben Had!
Hub is semi-self-employed; fortunately, his boss is family and is an all-around good guy, though a bit naïve. Posted by: SMH at September 09, 2022 12:03 PM (LClE5) 380
207 I would be interested in knowing how many of these folks who opine about what Jesus would support- when it's left wing things- actually last read the Bible or have a regular prayer and devotional life? Not many, I expect.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 09, 2022 11:35 AM (wvo9L) Exactly. You know, Joe, I don't go to over- paid TV hacks for Bible exegesis. Posted by: Flyover at September 09, 2022 12:03 PM (Rbu5d) 381
I have a hunch that Sparky the urologist is joking....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 09, 2022 12:04 PM (6FeV1) 382
I saw a Rivian today about an hour ago. Whoever designed the front of that thing needs to loudly quit. Yeeeeah.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 09, 2022 12:01 PM (MZ+fk) The 32-inch LED screen, where the radiator grille should be, that flashes "Virtue" 40 times a minute; that's a bit much. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 09, 2022 12:04 PM (aCu/h) Posted by: SMH at September 09, 2022 12:04 PM (LClE5) 384
>Again, we should work hard because that's the right thing to do, not because we expect special rewards and benefits for it...
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2022 11:54 AM (Ivdso) Late to the party. I'm at the tail end of my career, spent mostly working at Fortune 50 companies. I owe my employer exactly a fair days work for a fair wage. Nothing more, nothing less. Going 'above and beyond', nah bruh, I'm out. Did that for a few decades and got to an exec level. IME, the amount of fuckery in the C-suite is astounding. So no, I don't owe these 'leaders' anything more. Posted by: Heavy Meta at September 09, 2022 12:04 PM (Egb5W) 385
>>> 355 97
'Jesus never once talked about abortion.' This line of argument always makes me so God-damn mad. There were a lot of things Jesus didn't talk about because He had a short time a stuck to the important points. He also didn't tell people not to eat dog crap too. He expected people to figure that out without His help. Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 09, 2022 12:01 PM (ruYJi) Awesome and stolen. Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 09, 2022 12:04 PM (llON8) 386
Main caveat to any startup company with decent growth is when it goes corporate and starts selling stocks. It's all downhill from there. Incorporation absolutely sucks all the fun and ambition out it's employees. It becomes "all for the management team" then.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at September 09, 2022 12:02 PM (BdMk6) I think it's because shareholders are indifferent to the running of the company. Possibly a byproduct of index investing. Usually companies have a corporate legal structure throughout their lives, it's going public (or sold to new owners) that sees large changes. Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 09, 2022 12:04 PM (b2nrj) 387
Personal theory is that the quiet quitting is being pushed now by China. I never heard the term until about a month after hearing about the CCP losing their crap over the laying flat phenomena. My theory is that they used the algo's on TicTok and the like to help amplify the already annoyed Western voices.
Funny thing is that I sort of agree with it as far as don't let the company screw you over way, but the voices being amplified tend to be commie UBI we shouldn't have to work at all types. Also, the term quiet quitting just sounds like a weird translation quirk to me more than a grassroots phrase would. Posted by: Lou at September 09, 2022 12:05 PM (TJLP/) 388
Jen then maybe the Stones should play at the funeral
Posted by: Skip's phone at September 09, 2022 12:05 PM (xx3bE) 389
>>> 351 'Work heartily as to the Lord'. Read that somewhere.
Posted by: Eromero at September 09, 2022 12:00 PM (gktX6) "That book is like more than 100 years old!" -- leftists, who somehow understand it better than everyone else Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 09, 2022 12:05 PM (llON8) 390
O T. Stuart Varney just reported a bit of trivia. Guess who was in the Westminster Abbey choir when Queen Elizabeth was coronated there in 1952? Yes it was Keith Richards.
The word "coronate" bugs me. I think it means the same as " to crown" but I gather that both are acceptable. Coronation is okay, though. Posted by: Archimedes at September 09, 2022 12:06 PM (ayzS/) 391
lol Helena.
Posted by: SMH at September 09, 2022 12:06 PM (LClE5) 392
Jesus never once talked about abortion
He did talk about harming little ones and milestones and the deep blue sea. Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 09, 2022 12:06 PM (eGTCV) 393
If you’re paid 40 work 40. That’s not the issue. The issue is if you’re paid 40 but slack off 35 of those 40. That’s what the movement is all about.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 09, 2022 12:06 PM (MZ+fk) 394
Fun fact: Rivians weigh over 8500 pounds. Two trucks, or two or three cars.
And they're great for the environment because reasons. Don't think too much about how you're driving three cars. Posted by: Moron Robbie - China is making you buy EVs, read to bottom at September 09, 2022 12:06 PM (0CG0Y) 395
Go ahead doc ! Let it rip!
Posted by: runner at September 09, 2022 12:07 PM (9jT0b) 396
And let's be honest...it's a messy world with messy people in it, this is some from Column A and some from Column B. You always saw the Column A (the slackers) but the addition of a bunch of Column B (the disenchanted) made the whole thing more obvious.
It's easier to blame it all on "Gen Z slackers" than it is to focus on the actual problem, which is part and parcel of the general crisis of abysmal management on all levels and in all sectors in 21st century Western society. Posted by: Brother Tim...as the man said, the die is cast at September 09, 2022 12:07 PM (OUMaO) 397
On that day I stopped working more than 40 hours a week. They pay me for that, they get their 40 and not a second more.
This is not quiet quitting - this is not being a fool. Correct. Work the best you can at the job that you're paid to and rest when the work is done. Don't be a fool and work more than you're paid or more than is proper. Salaried employees have a tougher time with this, but almost every job says up front how many hours you're expected to work. Work the number of hours you've agreed to and are ethically required to. You can work more if you choose to, but that's not part of the work ethic. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2022 12:07 PM (Ivdso) 398
Gen Z keeps coming up with new terms to describe things that have been around longer than recorded history and then patting themselves on the back has to be one of the funniest recent developments.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 09, 2022 12:07 PM (Y5qcH) 399
@324 Again, we should work hard because that's the right thing to do, not because we expect special rewards and benefits for it. Doing things out of expectation of reward and special treatment is just selfish and not honoring a basic duty to your employer
---- No, and you're completely misunderstanding my point. The reason why you would be rewarded by the company is because the company sees the value of having an employee that is willing to work hard. The company should want to reward hard-working employees to encourage them to stick around instead of leaving for a competitor. And your supervisors and managers likely do realize your value. But the guy half-way across the country who just cut your job has no idea what your supervisors and managers have to say. Instead, he pulled your name out of a hat, and said, "Let's lay off this guy " Posted by: junior at September 09, 2022 12:07 PM (XEO9p) 400
If you’re paid 40 work 40. That’s not the issue. The issue is if you’re paid 40 but slack off 35 of those 40. That’s what the movement is all about.
Posted by: Joe XiDen But if all those folks that used to pick up the slack aren't willing to put in the extra time anymore... Posted by: She Hobbit at September 09, 2022 12:07 PM (ftFVW) 401
there's a new thread up, and it's full of hoax!
Posted by: kallisto at September 09, 2022 12:07 PM (dCxaZ) 402
393 If you’re paid 40 work 40. That’s not the issue. The issue is if you’re paid 40 but slack off 35 of those 40. That’s what the movement is all about.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 09, 2022 12:06 PM (MZ+fk) Instead they’re renouncing hustle culture, quitting “the idea of going above and beyond at work,” ^that's the quote from the article above. The claim reads as saying that people being paid 40 are no longer doing 50. Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 09, 2022 12:07 PM (b2nrj) 403
AOP thats funny, some weeks ago saw a obviously new but ugly weird looking pickup, finally saw it was a Rivian
Posted by: Skip's phone at September 09, 2022 12:08 PM (xx3bE) 404
My friend's joke. Driving by the penitentiary today, I saw a midget climbing down the wall. It seemed condescending.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at September 09, 2022 12:08 PM (FVME7) 405
Don't get me wrong. I hear Paul in Colossians - "Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters"
The work I do now is quality work. It just doesn't extend past normal working hours anymore. And it won't be for long - I am expecting to go to a different employer soon. Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2022 12:08 PM (6TxNR) 406
the actual problem, which is part and parcel of the general crisis of abysmal management on all levels and in all sectors in 21st century Western society.
its a problem on both side: lazy workers and lousy bosses. Thieving workers (not doing what you are paid to do...) and corrupt bosses. Its not just one side or the other. Bad bosses make work miserable, good bosses make it tolerable and even sometimes pleasant. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2022 12:08 PM (Ivdso) 407
Pedro Cerrano: Jesus, I like him very much, but he no help with curveball.
Eddie Harris: You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball? Posted by: Count de Monet at September 09, 2022 12:08 PM (4I/2K) 408
Moron Robbie, the Army Corp of Engineers fixed it; no doubt the EPA was just "there".
It's at NationalFile.com Speculation now it was just a scam to get a grant. Posted by: Ultra pj at September 09, 2022 12:08 PM (G1dq6) 409
385 >>> 355 97
'Jesus never once talked about abortion.' This line of argument always makes me so God-damn mad. There were a lot of things Jesus didn't talk about because He had a short time a stuck to the important points. He also didn't tell people not to eat dog crap too. He expected people to figure that out without His help. Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 09, 2022 12:01 PM (ruYJi) Awesome and stolen. Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 09, 2022 12:04 PM (llON ![]() There was this corpus of writing that Jesus did refer to from time to time... Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at September 09, 2022 12:09 PM (ynpvh) 410
Constant updates are the bane of the software industry. It is a moving target of problems and chaos. MS 365 is a constant maze of changing locations. Sometimes, the links to the new location when take you to another location that will tell you this feature has moved yet again.
Boy, ain't that the truth. Administering the platform has become a nightmare. MS is constantly moving and renaming functionality. It's there one day and the next you have to spend a half hour researching where it's new home is. And just take a look at the disruptions in service. There are at least four major outstanding issues on any given day. They are constantly breaking shit. End of rant. Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 09, 2022 12:09 PM (Xrfse) 411
388. Lol. Seriously. I will say one of the nicest well written tributes from celebrities yesterday was from DuranDuran.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 09, 2022 12:09 PM (JG54y) 412
398 Gen Z keeps coming up with new terms to describe things that have been around longer than recorded history and then patting themselves on the back has to be one of the funniest recent developments.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 09, 2022 12:07 PM (Y5qcH) History started the day I was born, bro. - GenZ Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 09, 2022 12:09 PM (MZ+fk) 413
Jesus never once talked about abortion
I can only assume the person who wrote that has a very large stack of Bible of Bible commentaries and dictionaries. Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 09, 2022 12:09 PM (eGTCV) 414
willowed again
Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 09, 2022 12:09 PM (Xrfse) 415
Gen Z keeps coming up with new terms to describe things that have been around longer than recorded history and then patting themselves on the back has to be one of the funniest recent developments.
Yeah, I mean that's always been a thing (young people think they invented sex) but these days its turned into some kind of cultural movement to do what everyone always has done. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 09, 2022 12:10 PM (Ivdso) 416
Most companies do not value workers who work hard. They do throw money at diversity office, to pester hardworking employees. So , yeah. Go woke, get quiet quitting .
Posted by: runner at September 09, 2022 12:10 PM (9jT0b) 417
There is very little in Christ's ministry about mundane day to day living. His audience at the time already knew The Law. His ministry was almost exclusively about re-negotiating man's standing with the Creator. Most of the time mundane things even come up, it's brushed aside. Render unto Caesar. Consider the sparrows. Etc.
"Get Over Yourself and Come to Me" is pretty much the keynote of the Gospel. Not a very great structure for "murdering babies is totes OK" to be shoehorned into. Posted by: Warai-otoko at September 09, 2022 12:10 PM (6FeV1) 418
I once worked for a small high-tech start-up. It was staggeringly successful. One of the problems with such is that the founders convince themselves that since they have conjured up a marvelous product, they are also skilled managers. Uh, no.
As myself and one or two others in R&D had put in almost superhuman hours/work in bringing on the success, we approached the owner regarding profit-sharing ownership. He explicitly stated that the company would remain privately held, and there would be no profit sharing in any form, believing that the success of the company was due entirely to his own entrepreneurship. Without any coordination, 2/3 of the R&D staff resigned on the same day. Within 2 years, the company's entire assets were sold off at auction. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 09, 2022 12:10 PM (1APKY) Posted by: Moron Robbie - China is making you buy EVs, read to bottom at September 09, 2022 12:10 PM (0CG0Y) 420
30 CFO for Bed, Bath and Beyond didn't quit quietly.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at September 09, 2022 11:10 AM (OgrpQ) Yelled all the way down.. Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at September 09, 2022 12:11 PM (53oGX) 421
394 Fun fact: Rivians weigh over 8500 pounds. Two trucks, or two or three cars.
And they're great for the environment because reasons. Don't think too much about how you're driving three cars. Posted by: Moron Robbie - China is making you buy EVs, read to bottom at September 09, 2022 12:06 PM (0CG0Y) At that weight, the purchase is tax deductible for a business. Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2022 12:11 PM (6TxNR) 422
its a problem on both side: lazy workers and lousy bosses. Thieving workers (not doing what you are paid to do...) and corrupt bosses. Its not just one side or the other. Bad bosses make work miserable, good bosses make it tolerable and even sometimes pleasant.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor And this is very true as well. Good bosses even know how to work around the bad workers, plus they encourage good workers. Bad bosses suppress good workers and amplify bad ones. So...you tell me which problem is worse. Because I've seen both in combination, and I know how that story ends. Posted by: Brother Tim...as the man said, the die is cast at September 09, 2022 12:12 PM (OUMaO) 423
The fluff needs to go. Will be easier now that money has become more expensive.
Posted by: runner at September 09, 2022 12:12 PM (9jT0b) 424
People look and say- he rules me?
There have been a few presidents and senators I really liked. I never thought that any of them "ruled me." The function of government in a republic is not to rule. Perhaps it is our fault that we can't live without a ruler. Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at September 09, 2022 12:12 PM (x61Im) 425
"That's a pretty box. Here, take more of my money."
Posted by: SMH at September 09, 2022 12:01 PM (LClE5) Phrasing? Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 09, 2022 12:02 PM (Y5qcH) What's in the box! Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at September 09, 2022 12:12 PM (yHsuS) 426
"Quiet quitting" was covered in the documentary "Office Space".
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 09, 2022 12:13 PM (HTCOy) 427
The problem with my occupation before I retired was the harder you worked the more work they gave you. It was a caseload type of system. Posted by: polynikes In the military context, the meme for effective staff work is "find the one or two soldiers in the shop who aren't total incompetents, and work them to death". For me, the last couple of years in the Army was spent in the battalion S3 shop being that unlucky grunt. At one point, I had two E9s almost come to blows over who could heap more work on me. As it happened, the screaming match in the HHC company 1st Sgt's office had to be broken up by the XO by threatening them both. I was a E4 at the time, waiting for points to drop for E5. Sucks to be Specialist Cur doesn't even cover it. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 09, 2022 12:13 PM (n+4am) 428
A lot of the old school Brit bands turned )or maybe always were) fairly traditional and conservative. Duran Duran being all gushy about the queen makes sense. They are from a generation where even lefties and artists and shit still respected institutions like the monarchy. You may not be a Monarchist per se but you respect what it stands for. Even Boy George said some things recently about culture that made a lot of sense. When Boy George is the voice of reason, you know society has veered off course.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at September 09, 2022 12:13 PM (MZ+fk) 429
Man, I wish I could have been here earlier...
But Higher Ed has the same problem with Chancellors and Provosts doing their 5 year term and moving to their next gig. They don't really give a shit about their institutions unless it helps them move on to their next appointment. Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at September 09, 2022 12:14 PM (YIVH2) 430
>>> 405 Don't get me wrong. I hear Paul in Colossians - "Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters"
The work I do now is quality work. It just doesn't extend past normal working hours anymore. And it won't be for long - I am expecting to go to a different employer soon. Posted by: blaster at September 09, 2022 12:08 PM (6TxNR) Well said. I can't stand half-assers or half-assing (iow, by *me*) but I fell strangely un-motivated to put in 50+ hours by the DIE idiots who wanted everyone to get vaxxed. Posted by: Helena Handbasket at September 09, 2022 12:15 PM (llON8) 431
'Quite Quitting is just another phrasefor lazy as fuck'
Tee-hee. I forgot to stop being as lazy as fuck when I typed this. Posted by: Mr. Poo Poo at September 09, 2022 12:17 PM (ruYJi) 432
True in the healthcare sector for sure. In my 20+ years, I’ve watched the c-suite morph from folks who were mostly RNs and a few MDs to MBAs and assorted bean counters with ZERO understanding of clinical care, but all about M&A. My hospital’s CEO embodies this to a T. And the admin level just below him change jobs more frequently than I change scrubs, off to feed on another system like locusts flying to the next wheat field. They spew the “healthcare heroes” BS to us, then axe personnel to save money, and screw over contracted MDs.
I’m loyal to my patients, other MDs, and nurses. To the c-suite? They have shown NO loyalty to the folks in the trenches, so that would be a NO. Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at September 09, 2022 12:17 PM (rcmwR) 433
411 388. Lol. Seriously. I will say one of the nicest well written tributes from celebrities yesterday was from DuranDuran.
oh Jen do you have a link?!?! love those guys Posted by: BlackOrchid at September 09, 2022 12:19 PM (w0NJk) 434
"That's a pretty box. Here, take more of my money."
Posted by: SMH -------- Pulled a book out of one of those little curbside libraries. I was unfamiliar with the author, but the dust jacket blurb was impressive (as they always are). Anyhow, the dust jacket production itself was *very* elaborate. Embossed, slick, expensive, impressive. The book itself was vapid. I mean, *vapid*. It led me to wonder if the publishing world has some equivalent of 'All hat, no cows'. 'All dust jacket, no substance'. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 09, 2022 12:20 PM (1APKY) 435
Funny how my nephew started ranting about the "go-go ratrace culture" right about the time my brother gave him an ultimatum of enroll in college, get a job and pay minimal rent, or move out. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 09, 2022 12:23 PM (n+4am) 436
rat-race...
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 09, 2022 12:23 PM (n+4am) 437
My last quiet quit was when after three months of daily work tickets and safety tickets, the company put me under the supervision of a guy in a different division who should have been pushing a broom. My three previous jobs I reported to the general manager or the vice president, so when I got the news, I packed my shit and walked out. It was like stepping into a 1980s time warp of ignorance and stupidity.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at September 09, 2022 12:25 PM (w2Z7l) 438
But if all those folks that used to pick up the slack aren't willing to put in the extra time anymore...
Posted by: She Hobbit at September 09, 2022 12:07 PM (ftFVW) Then it all falls, and tough shit, as far as I'm concerned. Posted by: AC30 at September 09, 2022 12:25 PM (DkUsn) 439
I was going to say a bunch of stuff. But I didn't.
Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at September 09, 2022 12:28 PM (ytSiK) Posted by: Dr. Claw at September 09, 2022 12:28 PM (ruYJi) 441
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Posted by: DaveA at September 09, 2022 12:35 PM (FhXTo) 442
I never got the chance to "quiet quit". Worked my way into upper management by working hard and long hours. Traveled around the world on constant business trips, while neglecting my family. I always knew that my company held no loyalty toward me. Suffered abuse, layoffs, firings from senior executives. But my wife and kids lived in comfort, and paid for college educations for all three kids. Later in life, I worked long hours away from home as a consultant. But I was paid by the hour, so made a small fortune and retired well. Happy ending to a miserable story.
Posted by: Angel Artiste at September 09, 2022 01:00 PM (SJ4Xh) 443
147 A lot of working women dropped out of the economy to take care of children during the pandemic, and many of them aren't coming back because they realized that between the child-care costs and tax implications, many families could afford to live on a single salary.
Posted by: Caiwyn at September 09, 2022 11:27 AM (+dHQK) This is key; nicely put. Posted by: m at September 09, 2022 01:15 PM (0ixKl) 444
federal service is full of these people. the 2 years of full pay and minimal (from home) work has these people expecting 100% continuance. time to fire them all and remove the internal rot
Posted by: gov't here to help at September 09, 2022 01:19 PM (1+Yy9) 445
I rather suspect a lot of C-suite types, especially the younger ones who didn't necessarily come up through the ranks at a single company, also got ESG hammered into them in their Executive MBA/Accelerated MBA programs. Many MBA programs now are McMBAs with a lot of touchy-feely HR and "business, government, and society" courses and less emphasis on things like operations, managerial accounting, and discipline-specific electives, many of which used to be quantitative. The typical MBA program today is 36 credits; when I did mine 20 years ago, it was about 50 credits.
Posted by: Rowsdower Believes Epps Is A Fed at September 09, 2022 01:28 PM (2pZ0T) 446
Let me understand this. Corporations expect loyalty and extra effort when they:
-discriminate against whites; straights, Christians -support deviants, perverts, racists, communists -ship jobs to countries like Mexico and China -demand the elimination of companies that don't tow their political mantras (read CEO's deeply held Sataanist views) -give huge awards to their ass licking management. -This goes ten times for the federal work force which makes the DMV folks look Prussian in comparison. Posted by: Obama's boyfriend at September 09, 2022 01:39 PM (EcD5Y) 447
Outstanding, thoughtful piece, Buck!
Posted by: Jewish Odysseus at September 09, 2022 01:40 PM (bvp+i) 448
For 20 years now, I've been stuck mentoring most of the new hires in my group. It seems that I get really positive marks from them, so HR keeps sending them my way.
Which is kind of funny, because one of the first things I tell them is, "The company has a job for you. You have your career. When the job doesn't advance your career, it's time to leave. Your interests and the company's aren't the same." I got in a hell of a lot of trouble when I started giving that advice out 25 years ago in IBM from all the True Blue believers, but in the many companies since then, folks have started to believe the same. It's my variation of the Quiet Quitting that I think works better. It gives the idea of "company loyalty" the exact worth it should have. Company loyalty ended when companies decided not to be loyal to their employees and the idea that they claim to have any is laughable. Posted by: nerdbert at September 09, 2022 02:17 PM (h9YN/) 449
Yup. Can confirm, major fortune 500 energy company, in the absolute grip of virtually every one of these.
Generating stations split from the transmission / distribution side of the company. They are in full obedience to the green, climate change agenda, but not just politically, but as rent seeking. Software continues to get worse, less functional, and now, the IT side of the separation has become a farce where you are constantly logging into browsers, some applications have to be opened in a Microsoft Edge "InPrivate" window with your old company login And key positions sit open for over a year because the actual business locations are in all white rural areas in a male dominated industry, so better to screw the existing employees with more work than higher a gross cis white male. Meanwhile, they're still giving out 2% "raises" and no longer offering a defined benefit pension making their workforce effectively disposable. Posted by: deadrody at September 09, 2022 02:31 PM (kYmXc) 450
50-ish year-old male here, as are most of my friends. Most of us have at least pared-back our motivation for work for all the reasons listed above, plus a few others.
One issue not listed above is how toxic most corporations are. When I started my career, most managers were genuinely interested in developing personnel via training, coaching, etc. Now most managers are petty tyrants who just need sycophants they can drop dumpster-fire issues on. Posted by: Felix at September 09, 2022 02:44 PM (b3u1C) 451
387 Personal theory is that the quiet quitting is being pushed now by China. I never heard the term until about a month after hearing about the CCP losing their crap over the laying flat phenomena. My theory is that they used the algo's on TicTok and the like to help amplify the already annoyed Western voices.
... Also, the term quiet quitting just sounds like a weird translation quirk to me more than a grassroots phrase would. Posted by: Lou at September 09, 2022 12:05 PM (TJLP/) Hmmm. Maybe. Posted by: m at September 09, 2022 02:47 PM (0ixKl) 452
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