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Christopher Rufo: The "Lurie Children's Hospital" Has Partnered Up With Public Schools to Teach Transgenderism, Bondage, BDSM and "Kink" to Grade School Children
Plus: That Tucker Carlson Video

Thread here. As usual, I'll just mostly be quoting his text. Go to the thread to find most of the supporting links and evidence.



Christopher F. Rufo
@realchrisrufo

SCOOP: Lurie Children's Hospital of Chicago has created a partnership with local public school districts to promote radical gender theory, "kink," "BDSM," artificial penis "packers," "trans masc pump[s]," and "trans-friendly [sex] toys" for children.


According to a whistleblower, gender activists at Lurie Children's Hospital and school administrators in at least four Chicago-area public school systems--Districts 75, 120, 181, and 204--have circulated a training document titled "Beyond Binary: Gender in Schools."

The training follows the basic narrative of academic queer theory: white, Western society has created an oppressive gender binary, falsely dividing the world into the categories of man and woman, that has resulted in "transphobia," "cissexism," and "systemic discrimination."

The presentation encourages public schools to support "gender diversity" in their districts, automatically "affirm" students who announce sexual transitions, and disrupt the "entrenched norms in western society" in order to create to a more "gender creative" world.

"Gender creative." Keep that euphemism in mind. It will come up again in a bit.

In a version of the presentation circulated to middle school and high school teachers and staff in District 75 and 120, Lurie Children's Hospital promoted a "Binder Exchange Program" to assist teenage girls in binding their breasts.

Next, Lurie Children's Hospital promoted a "kid friendly website for gender affirming gear," which sells items such as artificial penis "packers," female-to-male "trans masc pump[s]," and "stand to pee devices" for minors.

Next, Lurie Children's Hospital promoted an "LGBTQ friendly sex shop for teens" that sells a range of "dildos," "vibrators," "harnesses," "anal toys," "trans-friendly toys," and "kink & BDSM" equipment. The site includes graphic descriptions of sadomasochism and bondage.

Finally, Lurie Children's Hospital published a school policy guide, encouraging districts to adopt a "gender-affirming approach" to the curriculum and to allow students sleep in bunks during overnight school trips in accordance with their "gender identity," rather than their sex.

Rufo's full article is here. Remember, he's reporting actual facts which are publicly available -- advertised, actually! -- on this Children's Hopsital's website, so he's a "stochastic terrorist."

This is the same "Children's Hospital" whose "Director of Gender Development" admitted he had no actual medical studies proving the safety or effectiveness of hormone blockers, but did have some "anecdotal evidence," so hey! Let's give unapproved drugs to children.

Hormone blockers are not approved by the FDA for "transitioning" the gender of anybody, let alone children. They have been approved for some uses... like chemical castration.

The Post-Millennial:

"You work with trans kids and teens," the Amaze host asks Garofalo, "and I would love for you to share with people like a little window of what the process is like when a family comes to you. Y'know, when kids realize they're trans, like what are they looking for when they meet with you? Is this a risky process for a young person?"

"Yeah, I mean, the answer to that is largely no and yes," Garofalo says. "You know, so there are things that we do not know about the process.

"But, you know, these are medical interventions that have been used for a long time now, they've been done quite safely," Garofalo says. These interventions can include puberty blockers, with use of the drug Lupron, which has been used to treat prostate cancer, endometriosis, and precocious puberty. The maker of the drug does not recommend it for gender dysphoria, for long-term use, nor is it approved by the FDA, which just issued warnings against its use. Use of cross-sex hormones in children have led to sterility, as well as a loss of sexual function.

"The medical interventions themselves are not rocket science," Garofalo, continues. "I mean, these are medications that we've used in other conditions for many years that have a really strong evidence base. And so I really want to be clear that I believe these medicines can that can and are used safely. You know, I know for a fact that the teams that are out there that are doing this work and do it with a lot of care and thought and precision.

"And so yes, I mean, there is there is not a full range of evidence to support the treatments that we're using, but there was a lot of anecdotal evidence to support it and the safety data that's coming out really suggest that these treatments can be used, both safe safely and appropriately," Garofalo concluded.

Video of this mad gender-f***ing doctor at the link.

If you were wondering if the Lurie Children's Hospital just happens to be funded by the Pritzker family, which gives money to hospitals on the condition that they promote transgenderism, and which is also determined to push transgenderism in grade school, you wondered well.

Pediatric Psychiatry & Psychology

The Pritzker Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Health at Lurie Children's is staffed and equipped to manage the complex care of children with concurrent medical and psychiatric treatment needs. Our specialists help many young patients overcome depression, anxiety and other psychological or behavioral concerns related to their serious medical illness, as well as those children with primary mental health issues.

If you haven't read it yet, check out this expose in Tablet about this rich, degenerate Democrat family pushing transgenderism on the nation's children.

This writer uses the term "Synthetic Sex Identities" instead of "transgenderism," claiming "transgenderism" has no real definition and can mean anything from cross-dressing to full surgical mutilation.

One of the most powerful yet unremarked-upon drivers of our current wars over definitions of gender is a concerted push by members of one of the richest families in the United States to transition Americans from a dimorphic definition of sex to the broad acceptance and propagation of synthetic sex identities (SSI). Over the past decade, the Pritzkers of Illinois, who helped put Barack Obama in the White House and include among their number former U.S. Secretary of Commerce Penny Pritzker, current Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker, and philanthropist Jennifer Pritzker, appear to have used a family philanthropic apparatus to drive an ideology and practice of disembodiment into our medical, legal, cultural, and educational institutions.

If you remember, they pushed "J.B." Pritzker as a possible replacement for Biden a few months ago. I heard someone speculate that this wasn't a real push, but was intended to make the real replacement candidate, Gavin Newsom, look better in comparison with the morbidly obese, transgender-crazed J.B. Pritzker.

...

The creation and normalization of SSI speaks much more directly to what is happening in American culture, and elsewhere, under an umbrella of human rights. With the introduction of SSI, the current incarnation of the LGBTQ+ network--as distinct from the prior movement that fought for equal rights for gay and lesbian Americans, and which ended in 2020 with Bostock v. Clayton County, finding that LGBTQ+ is a protected class for discrimination purposes--is working closely with the techno-medical complex, big banks, international law firms, pharma giants, and corporate power to solidify the idea that humans are not a sexually dimorphic species--which contradicts reality and the fundamental premises not only of "traditional" religions but of the gay and lesbian civil rights movements and much of the feminist movement, for which sexual dimorphism and resulting gender differences are foundational premises.

Through investments in the techno-medical complex, where new highly medicalized sex identities are being conjured, Pritzkers and other elite donors are attempting to normalize the idea that human reproductive sex exists on a spectrum. These investments go toward creating new SSI using surgeries and drugs, and by instituting rapid language reforms to prop up these new identities and induce institutions and individuals to normalize them. In 2018, for example, at the Ronald Reagan Medical Center at the University of California Los Angeles (where the Pritzkers are major donors and hold various titles), the Department of Obstetrics and Gynecology advertised several options for young females who think they can be men to have their reproductive organs removed, a procedure termed "gender-affirming care."

The Pritzkers became the first American family to have a medical school bear its name in recognition of a private donation when it gave $12 million to the University of Chicago School of Medicine in 1968. In June 2002, the family announced an additional gift of $30 million to be invested in the University of Chicago's Biological Sciences Division and School of Medicine. These investments provided the family with a bridgehead into the world of academic medicine, which it has since expanded in pursuit of a well-defined agenda centered around SSI. Also in 2002, Jennifer Pritzker founded the Tawani Foundation, which has since provided funding to Howard Brown Health and Rush Memorial Medical Center in Chicago, the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences Foundation Fund, and the University of Minnesota's Institute for Sexual and Gender Health, all of which provide some version of "gender care." In the case of the latter, "clients" include "gender creative children as well as transgender and gender non-conforming adolescents ..."

"Gender creative." There it is again. A prized Pritzker euphemism.


In 2012, J.B. Pritzker and his wife, M.K. Pritzker, worked with The Bridgespan Group--a management consultant to nonprofits and philanthropists--to develop a long-term strategy for the J.B and M.K. Pritzker Family Foundation. Their work together included conducting research on developments in the field of early childhood education, to which the foundation committed $25 million.

Ever since, a motivating and driving force behind the Pritzkers' familywide commitment to SSI has been J.B.'s cousin Jennifer (born James) Pritzker--a retired lieutenant colonel in the Illinois Army National Guard and the father of three children. In 2013, around the time gender ideology reached the level of mainstream American culture, Jennifer Pritzker announced a transition to womanhood. Since then, Pritzker has used the Tawani Foundation to help fund various institutions that support the concept of a spectrum of human sexes, including the Human Rights Campaign Foundation, the Williams Institute UCLA School of Law, the National Center for Transgender Equality, the Transgender Legal Defense and Education Fund, the American Civil Liberties Union, the Palm Military Center, the World Professional Association of Transgender Health (WPATH), and many others. Tawani Enterprises, the private investment counterpart to the philanthropic foundation, invests in and partners with Squadron Capital LLC, a Chicago-based private investment vehicle that acquires a number of medical device companies that manufacture instruments, implants, cutting tools, and injection molded plastic products for use in surgeries. As in the case of Jon Stryker, founder of the LGBT mega-NGO Arcus Foundation, it is hard to avoid the impression of complementarity between Jennifer Pritzker's for-profit medical investments and philanthropic support for SSI.

This family is, essentially, the George Soros of Transgenderism for Kids (TM).

Meanwhile, Matt Walsh also decided to bump his score as a "stochastic terrorist" and simply repeat the claims made by a butcher who brags of performing double masectomies on young girls, and advertises that the minimum age for chopping off a girl's breasts is up to individual determination.

Like a bar with a very loose carding policy, except instead of giving you a Long Island Iced Tea, they permanently disfigure you.

Matt Walsh
@MattWalshBlog

When the media tries to "debunk" the claim that doctors are mutilating kids, they simply ignore top surgery altogether. They ignore it because it is undeniable that this is happening to children. It's also totally indefensible. They know that too.


Everything I've posted here is factually accurate and publicly available on Mosser's website. I didn't use any information that he did not publish himself. That won't stop the left from calling this "misinformation," of course, but I want to state it for the record anyway.

Of course the game is completely rigged. The Left claims that these sorts of things aren't being done to children but if you cite a specific example to disprove that claim, they'll accuse you of terrorism and incitement.

Exactly. They call you a liar. When you prove you're truthful, then you're a terrorist for having proven the truth.

"Stochastic" refers to statistics, I think specifically where you can't make specific predictions but you can get a sense of overall trends. The left's hot new term "stochastic terrorism" is intended to mean that by reporting these facts which the left incessantly lies about, you're inciting some people to commit violence. You don't know who or how many, but you can guess "some." Thus, "stochastic terrorism."

You might wonder, "How is this any different from run-of-the-mill incitement to violence, which also is rarely specific about who is being incited?"

The answer is: It's not. The left just loves making up technical-sounding academicese bullshit to sound smart. But what they're talking about is the same concept everyone else means when they speak of run-of-the-mill incitement by incendiary rhetoric.

But here they also get to call you a "terrorist," even though that makes no real sense. They just love escalating the Hate Language against their enemies.

But that's not incitement. Or actually, it is, but the left has a special dispensation from Satan to incite violence against its enemies.

They're just so special, aren't they?

Rufo spoke to Tucker Carlson last night:


Also, some Old Business: YouTube zapped that Tucker Carlson link, where he goes Pillar of Salt on Joe Biden, in my 12pm post.

Here's a Rumble post that works.

Sorry about that. I should have re-checked to make sure it still worked.

Posted by: Ace at 02:00 PM




Comments

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1 First!

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 01, 2022 02:01 PM (b2nrj)

2 Could have been first but my finger slipped and I clicked on King Harv.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 01, 2022 02:02 PM (qH6FZ)

3 I'm old enough to remember when sexualizing children was something that got you run out of town or hanged from a lamppost.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 01, 2022 02:02 PM (4olE8)

4 We're going to need a lot more wood chippers.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 01, 2022 02:03 PM (ptqGC)

5 It really does look like the medical community is embracing any kind of quackery if they can hurt kids with it, huh. Almost like that's the purpose.

Posted by: trev006 at September 01, 2022 02:03 PM (p3FZk)

6 Thank you Lord, for getting our g-babies out of Illinois, and having them homeschooled in the Ozarks.

Amen.

Posted by: SMH - Free Sponge! at September 01, 2022 02:04 PM (SuvOL)

7 2012: What does gay marriage have to do with you anyway h8ter?

2022: What does me doing gay bondage to your kid have to do with you anyway h8ter?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 01, 2022 02:04 PM (ESjRY)

8 sometimes I'm such a good blogger i can't even believe it



Posted by: Jean-Pierre Ace at September 01, 2022 02:04 PM (B3oWe)

9 Adults who "teach" BDSM to kids.

There needs to be so much typedeletion. So very much typedeletion.

So very, very, very much typedeletion.

By the field full.

Posted by: ... at September 01, 2022 02:04 PM (sj078)

10 If you were to go back 20 years, not only would committed Democrat activists say they didn't want this shit, they'd say it was a right wing conspiracy theory that anyone would.

And yet here we are - and not only do all those people support this now, the nominal political center will cancel me for speaking against it.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 01, 2022 02:05 PM (ESjRY)

11 I think its time for an apology to those Muslim female "circumcision" advocates, I mean they still technically left the girl female. This is far, far worse.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 02:05 PM (Ivdso)

12 "Good afternoon, Pinochet Air Services? I'd like to know if you had long term rentals? Why? Well, we have a bunch of people grooming kids....oh. Wow. That's a really steep discount. Thank you so much."

Posted by: NR Pax at September 01, 2022 02:05 PM (4olE8)

13 advertises that he doesn't think there's a firm minimum age for chopping off a girl's breasts.

NEVER WASH UNDER YOUR TITS AGAIN!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at September 01, 2022 02:05 PM (Xgeev)

14 "YouTube zapped that Tucker Carlson link"

I don't think YouTube zapped it, I think it was an individual that posts their full shows and then edits all of them down before FOX News reports them. Same with the Rumble clip, that ain't Tucker Carlson posting them.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 01, 2022 02:05 PM (qH6FZ)

15 Anyone who defends this shit on any level for any amount of time is outing themselves as a pedo so I guess that's one thing.

Posted by: ... at September 01, 2022 02:06 PM (sj078)

16 So does Ann Lurie approve of this direction by her and her dead husband's Hospital?

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 01, 2022 02:07 PM (4vi12)

17 "You know those uncomfortable, hot bras you hate? We have a permanent solution!"
--Boston Hospital

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 02:07 PM (Ivdso)

18 "If you remember, they pushed "J.B." Pritzker"


Well, we didn't push him very far. Who could?

Posted by: Democrats at September 01, 2022 02:07 PM (FJYfm)

19 I think its time for an apology to those Muslim female "circumcision" advocates, I mean they still technically left the girl female. This is far, far worse.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
___

Sorry, will never apologize to those barbarians.

Just because something is 'less evil' doesn't mean squat, especially mutilation, for whatever reason.

Posted by: SMH - Free Sponge! at September 01, 2022 02:07 PM (SuvOL)

20 Immoral monsters.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 01, 2022 02:07 PM (eGTCV)

21 If you were to go back 20 years, not only would committed Democrat activists say they didn't want this shit, they'd say it was a right wing conspiracy theory that anyone would.

...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 01, 2022 02:05 PM (ESjRY)

Two years. If Trump said it during the 2020 election runup, theworld headlines would have tried to laugh him off the stage.

Posted by: ... at September 01, 2022 02:08 PM (sj078)

22 Not much longer till they fully rehabilitate the reputation of Dr. Josef Mengele.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at September 01, 2022 02:08 PM (tkOps)

23 I am a stochastic terrorist.

I like to beat people to death with fluffy dice.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at September 01, 2022 02:08 PM (g1EEm)

24 Evil, perversion, greed. Destruction of youth.

Posted by: Disgust doesn't begin to adequately cover it at September 01, 2022 02:08 PM (c9ox4)

25 In the olden days, if your tribe got defeated the victors might turn your sons into dancing boys for their amusement.

I guess now that heritage America has been defeated that exactly what the left has in mind.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 01, 2022 02:08 PM (ESjRY)

26 If a six-year-old boy believes he's Superman do they throw him off a roof?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 01, 2022 02:08 PM (eGTCV)

27 Rumble video worked.

You are welcome.

Posted by: rd at September 01, 2022 02:09 PM (Z32m1)

28 This. This is why my middle name is Fucking.

Posted by: Jesus Christ at September 01, 2022 02:09 PM (M9XmQ)

29 Look how "far" we have come since "All we want is Domestic Partnerships. "It has snowballed to this....

Posted by: It's me donna at September 01, 2022 02:10 PM (bs+z0)

30 26 If a six-year-old boy believes he's Superman do they throw him off a roof?
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Its not a lie if you believe it. See?

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 01, 2022 02:10 PM (4vi12)

31 >>>This family is, essentially, the George Soros of Transgenderism for Kids (TM).

////

All you need to know. Guess their money talks loudest.

Posted by: Prime Sister at September 01, 2022 02:10 PM (tQL7r)

32 2012: What does gay marriage have to do with you anyway h8ter?

2022: What does me doing gay bondage to your kid have to do with you anyway h8ter?
Posted by: 18-1 at September 01, 2022 02:04 PM (ESjRY)

To be fair, hacking up those who might turn out gay isn't doing that "community" any favors. Same as adding burly linebacker "women" to feminism. This is a sword that cuts in all directions.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 01, 2022 02:10 PM (eoQWY)

33 Gotta have some entertainment when they're not in the ER fixing gunshot wounds.

Posted by: DaveA at September 01, 2022 02:10 PM (FhXTo)

34 Oh boy, here comes the Red Cloud of Blood in my vision

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at September 01, 2022 02:10 PM (jubwE)

35 If a six-year-old boy believes he's Superman do they throw him off a roof?

If 4 year old girl thinks she's a kitty do they staple ears on her, cut her real ears off, and attach a tail to her?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 02:10 PM (Ivdso)

36 Posted by: Jesus Christ at September 01, 2022 02:09 PM (M9XmQ)
___

No it is not.

And instead of taking His name in vain, maybe try praying to Him for once.

Posted by: SMH - Free Sponge! at September 01, 2022 02:10 PM (jwDzO)

37 (Shamelessly stole my last comment from some Twatter wag.)

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 01, 2022 02:11 PM (M9XmQ)

38 3 I'm old enough to remember when sexualizing children was something that got you run out of town or hanged from a lamppost.
Posted by: NR Pax at September 01, 2022 02:02 PM (4olE


I was born and raised on the Mississippi. Seventy years ago when I was six one of my friends was being abused by a bargeman. I told Dad. Dad spoke with friends. A week later the shack was empty and the bargeman gone.

No, I never asked.

Posted by: creeper at September 01, 2022 02:11 PM (cTCuP)

39 I think its time for an apology to those Muslim female "circumcision" advocates, I mean they still technically left the girl female. This is far, far worse.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

They're incapable of feeling any shame for their double standards. I don't know how you fight that.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 01, 2022 02:11 PM (qH6FZ)

40 *whistles*

Here, SMOD!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 01, 2022 02:11 PM (asZuX)

41 The left is destroying a whole generation of lost youth who have no purpose other than to complain and feel sorry for themselves.

This country is screwed.

Posted by: Czech Chick at September 01, 2022 02:11 PM (J9wxX)

42 25 In the olden days, if your tribe got defeated the victors might turn your sons into dancing boys for their amusement.

I guess now that heritage America has been defeated that exactly what the left has in mind.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 01, 2022 02:08 PM (ESjRY)


What's "olden days"? Six weeks ago?

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at September 01, 2022 02:12 PM (8C7+r)

43
If 4 year old girl thinks she's a kitty do they staple ears on her, cut her real ears off, and attach a tail to her?


In fairness Japan and Finland (hey Sanna!) seem to have come up with a reasonable solution for this particular issue.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 01, 2022 02:12 PM (ESjRY)

44 Look how "far" we have come since "All we want is Domestic Partnerships. "It has snowballed to this....
==
Whoa whoa whoa!!!! The slippery slope is a logical fallacy I'll remind you. Lets not have any sloppy argumentation. Right. Right. Musn't offend David French.

Posted by: Debating Club Student Board at September 01, 2022 02:12 PM (xVivp)

45 Where have you gone Mrs. O'Leary's cow?
The nation turns its lonely eyes to you
Woo Woo Woo

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 01, 2022 02:12 PM (4I/2K)

46 @5
>>It really does look like the medical community is embracing any kind of quackery if they can hurt kids with it, huh. Almost like that's the purpose.

This is not the first time, the medical community pushed anti-depressants, ADHD drugs, SSRI's, and opioids on children and the masses in general.

They are turning everyone crackers, g*y, tr*ns making them mental defectives and pushing young impressionable children to sterilize and mutilate themselves.

Eisenhauer did not just warn us about the MIC, he warned us about these people as well.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 01, 2022 02:12 PM (/qytU)

47 If you have not yet seen Matt Walsh's documentary called "What Is a Woman", you can see it on Bitchute for free.

He interviews a lot of these mutilating freaks (so-called doctors), and does some woman in the street interviews that will blow your mind. Some of it's funny; some of it's enraging.

He did the interviews before his appearance on the Dr Phil show went viral, so the folks he interviewed did not realize until he sprang the Fatal question that he was the enemy. His tone throughout is measured and polite and all the more devastating therefore.

Posted by: Beverly at September 01, 2022 02:12 PM (s0mnW)

48 God, come on fair is fair...

Posted by: Sodom and Gommorrah at September 01, 2022 02:12 PM (ESjRY)

49 The left is destroying a whole generation of lost youth who have no purpose other than to complain and feel sorry for themselves.
___

They're not long for this world then.

Posted by: SMH - Free Sponge! at September 01, 2022 02:12 PM (jwDzO)

50 So Obama's pals, the Pritzkers, are the literal funders of the doctors who will cut off perfectly functional body parts so that they can get some of that sweet, sweet cash. How ironic.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at September 01, 2022 02:12 PM (jubwE)

51 35 If a six-year-old boy believes he's Superman do they throw him off a roof?

If 4 year old girl thinks she's a kitty do they staple ears on her, cut her real ears off, and attach a tail to her?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 02:10 PM (Ivdso)


Be patient. That's for next year.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 01, 2022 02:12 PM (4olE8)

52 I'm up for starting a GoFundMe to raise airfare so these monsters can preach their twisted doctrine to the Iranians.

Better make them one-way tickets though.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at September 01, 2022 02:12 PM (WwJmh)

53 "Top" surgery is no different than FGM (female genital mutilation). It's butchery!!

Posted by: Coki at September 01, 2022 02:13 PM (G7Avm)

54 Another non-profit teaching hospital along with the expansion of the ACA in Illinois and, of course, the Pritzkers.

Posted by: Lola at September 01, 2022 02:13 PM (NIYa7)

55 *waves to SMH*

Posted by: creeper at September 01, 2022 02:13 PM (cTCuP)

56
Man, it's always like this. The society reaches a state of moral corrosion so deep that its like it has no choice but to flaunt its wickedness as a means of self-validation.

There always seems to be some breaking point where the ruling classes are just like "yeah, you know what? Fuck it. Why hide it anymore? Evil is AWESOME! Everyone be evil!"

Like the scene in the Church in Little Nicky, with the Bishop and the Mayor. "LET THE SIN BEGIN!!!"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 01, 2022 02:13 PM (uaLxw)

57 39 I think its time for an apology to those Muslim female "circumcision" advocates, I mean they still technically left the girl female. This is far, far worse.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

They're incapable of feeling any shame for their double standards. I don't know how you fight that.
Posted by: lowandslow at September 01, 2022 02:11 PM (qH6FZ)


There are ways. But...banhammer

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at September 01, 2022 02:13 PM (8C7+r)

58 Couldn't happen to a nicer town.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 01, 2022 02:13 PM (nSdVr)

59 At least at one point Iran was forcing homosexuals to have tranny surgery. That was part of why Achmed Dinnerjacket claimed they didn't have homosexuals - they turned them into women...

Posted by: 18-1 at September 01, 2022 02:14 PM (ESjRY)

60 >When the media tries to "debunk" the claim that doctors are mutilating kids, they simply ignore top surgery altogether.

Plus they love the euphemism "top surgery", instead of calling it a double mastectomy of healthy breasts.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at September 01, 2022 02:14 PM (jubwE)

61 I'm a stochastic commenter. You never know when I might have something to say. This is not one of those times.

Posted by: huerfano at September 01, 2022 02:14 PM (dTFZY)

62 (Shamelessly stole my last comment from some Twatter wag.)

I do that a lot, because usually its not possible or feasible to give credit. Like, I quote great lines from people here on Mewe but I don't really want to give nicks like "bear with asymmetrical balls" credit to a site my family reads.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 02:14 PM (Ivdso)

63 I'd be interested to see the demographics of the schools where a lot of this gender BS is pushed. I can't imagine it plays very well in the inner city public schools.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 01, 2022 02:14 PM (KbCG3)

64 Slippery slope is *not* one of the logical fallacies. Unless some academics added it to the centuries-old list recently, which wouldn't surprise me at all.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 01, 2022 02:14 PM (M9XmQ)

65 To be fair, hacking up those who might turn out gay isn't doing that "community" any favors. Same as adding burly linebacker "women" to feminism. This is a sword that cuts in all directions.
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Its like Shiva with four Ginzu Knives! Hibachi hysterectomies with a side of suburban oysters.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 01, 2022 02:14 PM (4vi12)

66 If 4 year old girl thinks she's a kitty do they staple ears on her, cut her real ears off, and attach a tail to her?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Its coming. There a plastic surgeons who turn people into animals. Dragons, Cats etc. I mean not really but they mutilate them. Tongue splitting, ear changes, nose/teeth etc etc.

Posted by: its fairly repulsive at September 01, 2022 02:14 PM (xVivp)

67 I'd crowdfund a horror film about the butchered getting revenge on the butchers. This is tragic. The butchers are godless and have no fear of consequences.

Posted by: Coki at September 01, 2022 02:14 PM (G7Avm)

68 This is demonic. Truly. I've been reading about demonic possession and obsession and this type of early sexualizion/abuse is a favorite because it screws up the person for the rest of their lives. Pray for these kids and their families- they are being completely and horribly tricked and misled.

Posted by: LASue at September 01, 2022 02:15 PM (Ed8Zd)

69 Iran's state subsidizes gender reassignment surgery while prohibiting homosexuality.

Posted by: Lola at September 01, 2022 02:15 PM (NIYa7)

70 It is against the law for a Dr to remove a healthy arm or leg.

It is not against the law for a Dr to remove a healthy breast or wang.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 01, 2022 02:15 PM (ESjRY)

71 You know what Illinois needs, Alaska styled ranked voting.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 01, 2022 02:15 PM (nSdVr)

72 As ive been saying, the 2022 and 2024 campaign slogan for Republicans just needs to be "Democrats 2022: we want to diddle your children" as that seems to be the Democrats main focus the last year.

Posted by: Rbastid at September 01, 2022 02:15 PM (t6ruY)

73 ==
Its coming. There a plastic surgeons who turn people into animals. Dragons, Cats etc. I mean not really but they mutilate them. Tongue splitting, ear changes, nose/teeth etc etc.
Posted by: its fairly repulsive at September 01, 2022 02:14 PM (xVivp)

A real Island of Dr. Moreau...

Posted by: It's me donna at September 01, 2022 02:15 PM (bs+z0)

74 I can't imagine it plays very well in the inner city public schools.
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Honestly, nothing plays well in inner city public schools except pizza Wednesday.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 01, 2022 02:16 PM (4vi12)

75 Slippery slope is *not* one of the logical fallacies. Unless some academics added it to the centuries-old list recently, which wouldn't surprise me at all.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by
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Oh HERE we go! Incoming.

Posted by: That's when the fight started officer at September 01, 2022 02:16 PM (xVivp)

76 "You know those uncomfortable, hot bras you hate? We have a permanent solution!"
--Boston Hos[pital
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 02:07 PM (Ivdso)


More like, NOW You will never need a bra. Or a Uterus, or ovaries. You can keep the Vajayjay for a while, but due to hormones it won't work well.

Have you seen the scars from "Top Surgery"? They go across the entire girl's chest. It looks like some sadistic misogynist BUTCHER did the surgery. Compare that to a normal Mastectomy. Do you see anywhere near the scarring? Imagine if breast enlargements had any of that scarring? Who would ever go for breast enlargements. Top Surgeons are Butchers.

Posted by: rd at September 01, 2022 02:16 PM (Z32m1)

77 Could have been first but my finger slipped and I clicked on King Harv.
Posted by: lowandslow at September 01, 2022 02:02 PM (qH6FZ)

It happens, my fingers slip too

Posted by: Joe finger Rpaer Bitem at September 01, 2022 02:16 PM (M+Lyo)

78 But we are the Nazis.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 01, 2022 02:16 PM (ZLI7S)

79
*The whole point of this bullshit is to create a "Baseline Bisexual" society.*




Posted by: Soothsayer at September 01, 2022 02:16 PM (LpUyf)

80 You know, we're supposed to love our enemies and I've been among many who have said well they will stand before God and be judged. That's not good enough anymore. They need to be dragged into the street and murdered in the most gruesome way possible.

Posted by: jewells45 at September 01, 2022 02:16 PM (nxdel)

81 Use of cross-sex hormones in children have led to sterility, as well as a loss of sexual function.

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Bingo. Sterility is the name of the game the Dims have in mind for those kids who don't get aborted.

Posted by: Prime Sister at September 01, 2022 02:17 PM (tQL7r)

82 But we are the Nazis.

Believe what the Average American GI believed in 1944 and someone now you are a "NAZI"

Posted by: 18-1 at September 01, 2022 02:17 PM (ESjRY)

83 >In the olden days, if your tribe got defeated the victors might turn your sons into dancing boys for their amusement.

I guess now that heritage America has been defeated that exactly what the left has in mind.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 01, 2022 02:08 PM (ESjRY)

Most insightful comment of the day.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at September 01, 2022 02:18 PM (jubwE)

84 If a ten year year old boy decides he's a girl, surely he can decide to have sex.

Posted by: mr tmz at September 01, 2022 02:18 PM (rJ48h)

85 Evil, perversion, greed. Destruction of youth.
Posted by: Disgust doesn't begin to adequately cover it at September 01, 2022 02:08 PM (c9ox4)

Wow, these Chicago guys are good. *takes notes*

Posted by: Mayor of Sodom at September 01, 2022 02:18 PM (4I/2K)

86 Slippery Slope is a logical fallacy not because it is false, but because it fails to address the opponent's argument.

It may very well be true that doing x will lead to y an z, but that does not answer what your opponent is arguing, it merely predicts a negative result.

That's what makes it a logical fallacy, a poor argument. Not that anyone pays attention to logic or rhetoric any longer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 02:18 PM (Ivdso)

87 You might wonder, "How is this any different from run-of-the-mill incitement to violence, which also is rarely specific about who is being incited?"

Because "stochastic terrorism" is a much weaker standard than incitement to violence.

LibsOfTikTok made one snarky comment about a tranny schoolteacher who posted a picture of xer's incredibly "woke" classroom.

The tranny explained that LibsOfTikTok's posting of xer picture along with the snarky comment led to numerous alleged death threats against xer, and that therefore LibsOfTikTok should be banned from making snarky comments, since that is what led to the alleged death threats.

Basically, these people are saying that they can't be criticized, because the slightest criticism is "stochastic terrorism", because it will inevitably lead to death threats.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 01, 2022 02:19 PM (I2/tG)

88 >>Honestly, nothing plays well in inner city public schools except pizza Wednesday.

and cap'n people.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 01, 2022 02:19 PM (nSdVr)

89 If a ten year year old boy decides he's a girl, surely he can decide to have sex.

I would like to subscribe to your news letter.

Posted by: Ezra Miller at September 01, 2022 02:19 PM (ESjRY)

90 Honest question: what election would we have to win to stop this evil?

We can't share a country with these people.

Posted by: Motionview, a National Divorcee at September 01, 2022 02:19 PM (TD3zU)

91 Use of cross-sex hormones in children have led to sterility, as well as a loss of sexual function.

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Bingo. Sterility is the name of the game the Dims have in mind for those kids who don't get aborted.
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The final battle is the destruction of the family.

Cardinal Caffarra

Posted by: The Fatima Cardinal at September 01, 2022 02:20 PM (o/7cr)

92 Tired of shaking that thang after you pee, visit Lurie Children's Hospital. Bring a friend.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 01, 2022 02:20 PM (nSdVr)

93 Since 2020, the majority of the medical community shrugged off "First do no harm." I mean, that's like sooo AD 245.

Posted by: Coki at September 01, 2022 02:20 PM (G7Avm)

94 If 4 year old girl thinks she's a kitty do they staple ears on her, cut her real ears off, and attach a tail to her?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

A terrier makes a wonderful fish - I could do that for you straight away: legs off, fins on, simple metal tube through the back of the neck so it could breathe.....

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 01, 2022 02:20 PM (906pl)

95 Basically, these people are saying that they can't be criticized, because the slightest criticism is "stochastic terrorism", because it will inevitably lead to death threats.

This is the source of the furious Leftist attacks against Andy Ngo - because his documenting of Leftist abuse immediately leads to harassment and death threats.

These same people have no problem openly calling for the murder of Andy Ngo, because that's different.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 01, 2022 02:21 PM (I2/tG)

96 Slippery Slope is a logical fallacy not because it is false, but because it fails to address the opponent's argument.

We've lived 20 or 30 years of someone on the Left saying "X" and some "far right wing conspiracy theorist" saying it will lead to "Y" and that "conspiracy theorist" being correct.

How does one deal with the rules of logic when one side in a "debate" is openly lying?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 01, 2022 02:21 PM (ESjRY)

97 Its coming. There a plastic surgeons who turn people into animals. Dragons, Cats etc. I mean not really but they mutilate them. Tongue splitting, ear changes, nose/teeth etc etc.
Posted by: its fairly repulsive at September 01, 2022 02:14 PM (xVivp)

*Jocelyn Wildenstein has entered the chat*

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 01, 2022 02:21 PM (4I/2K)

98 The pendulum hasn't even reached zenith, yet. When it stays to seeing back...

Lord, save us.

Posted by: Flyover at September 01, 2022 02:22 PM (Rbu5d)

99 https://www.pritzkermilitary.org/shop
/membership/founders-club

Dude looks like a lady is his new uniform.

Nice museum, 2nd floor looking at Lake.
Gotta be a tax dodge.

Posted by: DaveA at September 01, 2022 02:22 PM (FhXTo)

100 Honest question: what election would we have to win to stop this evil?


Vote D and you get more of it. Vote R and you get more of it.

Republic and Democracy don't seem to mean what the dictionary says any more do they?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 01, 2022 02:22 PM (ESjRY)

101 The elites openly hate the human race.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 01, 2022 02:23 PM (eGTCV)

102 Posted by: SMH - Free Sponge! at September 01, 2022 02:10 PM (jwDzO)

Thanks, dear, for speaking up, or doing as we sing in one of our hymns, "Stand up, stand up for Jesus, ye soldiers of the cross."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 01, 2022 02:23 PM (wvo9L)

103 46 @5
>>It really does look like the medical community is embracing any kind of quackery if they can hurt kids with it, huh. Almost like that's the purpose.

This is not the first time, the medical community pushed anti-depressants, ADHD drugs, SSRI's, and opioids on children and the masses in general.

They are turning everyone crackers, g*y, tr*ns making them mental defectives and pushing young impressionable children to sterilize and mutilate themselves.

Eisenhauer did not just warn us about the MIC, he warned us about these people as well.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at September 01, 2022 02:12 PM (/qytU)


The WEF Approves. More sterilized children mean fewer people in the long run.

Posted by: rd at September 01, 2022 02:23 PM (Z32m1)

104 It isn't that Iran doesn't have homosexuals; we do. It's really just that those homosexuals identify as birds. So we help them fly.

If you disagree, you are just a foul fascist hater of LGTBQ birds!

Posted by: Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, as overheard by Andy Samberg at September 01, 2022 02:23 PM (mOZHl)

105 Basically, these people are saying that they can't be criticized, because the slightest criticism is "stochastic terrorism", because it will inevitably lead to death threats.

This is the source of the furious Leftist attacks against Andy Ngo - because his documenting of Leftist abuse immediately leads to harassment and death threats.

These same people have no problem openly calling for the murder of Andy Ngo, because that's different.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 01, 2022 02:21 PM (I2/tG)

Oh nonsense. I doubt anyone who claims they got death threats who doesn't repost them in full. They are lying.

What they got was mockery, or opposition. If they had gotten actual threats the police would have acted on them, as would the woke publisher.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 01, 2022 02:24 PM (eoQWY)

106 Public schools should start Ghey night club in classes

Posted by: Skip's phone at September 01, 2022 02:24 PM (V2qLm)

107 Moser, MD looks like a degenerate. I wonder if he saves the"parts" like Gosnell did.

Posted by: Flyover at September 01, 2022 02:24 PM (Rbu5d)

108 Sorry, will never apologize to those barbarians.


"Oops" after running someone over with your tank counts as an apology.

Posted by: DaveA at September 01, 2022 02:24 PM (FhXTo)

109 I'm only here briefly. Does anyone know when Resident Biden is speaking so that I can pray extra during that time, and no, I don't plan to watch him.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 01, 2022 02:24 PM (wvo9L)

110 86 Slippery Slope is a logical fallacy not because it is false, but because it fails to address the opponent's argument.

It may very well be true that doing x will lead to y an z, but that does not answer what your opponent is arguing, it merely predicts a negative result.

That's what makes it a logical fallacy, a poor argument. Not that anyone pays attention to logic or rhetoric any longer.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 02:18 PM (Ivdso)

It doesn't establish a truth logically(which is difficult generally in the case of predictions). Many good predictive models are not logical proofs but generally plausible theories with good empirical accuracy.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 01, 2022 02:24 PM (b2nrj)

111 One of the things that came out in Matt's documentary was that each sexually mutilated patient is a huge profit Center for these demonic hospitals. On average they make over 3 million dollars per patient over the course of their shortened lifetimes.

Posted by: Beverly at September 01, 2022 02:25 PM (s0mnW)

112 6...Amen.
Posted by: SMH - Free Sponge! at September 01, 2022 02:04 PM (SuvOL)

And amen!

Posted by: Flyover at September 01, 2022 02:25 PM (Rbu5d)

113 90 Honest question: what election would we have to win to stop this evil?

We can't share a country with these people.
Posted by: Motionview, a National Divorcee at September 01, 2022 02:19 PM (TD3zU)

You answered it. Referendum on secession is the only vote that matters.

Posted by: Bandana Dee at September 01, 2022 02:25 PM (pY2C3)

114 Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 01, 2022 02:24 PM (wvo9L)

9 PM Eastern Time

Posted by: It's me donna at September 01, 2022 02:25 PM (bs+z0)

115 I pray that in twenty years these monsters will be treated just like we eventually treated Dr. Mengele.

I hope everyone will aspire to be a Simon Wiesenthal.

Posted by: rd at September 01, 2022 02:25 PM (Z32m1)

116 I bet the Trustees at Lurie Hospital have no fucking idea what this charity hospital is doing with the money they give.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 01, 2022 02:25 PM (mOZHl)

117

Hey, if you cut your tits or dick off, can I have them?

For, er, you know, research, yeah that's it, research!

Posted by: Nicky Necro at September 01, 2022 02:26 PM (um6GQ)

118 I bet the Trustees at Lurie Hospital have no fucking idea what this charity hospital is doing with the money they give.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 01, 2022 02:25 PM (mOZHl)

I bet they do know.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 01, 2022 02:26 PM (eoQWY)

119 Trans surgeries occur in about 1,000 children (google it). That said, and even that low number is horrific, why is the trans movement being treated in media and society as if it were a movement affecting the majority? Why is its shoved in our faces everywhere as if it has gained acceptance by the majority? IMO, this is happening because the objective of the trans movement is to "normalize" the insane trans ideology being forced on decent, normal people so that one day they can claim they are part of the majority. The trans movement is getting its foothold. Now is the time to stop it and prevent further mutilation of innocent children.

Posted by: Ziba at September 01, 2022 02:26 PM (4h9M3)

120 In 1968, 13 years old Elaine Riddick of North Carolina, reportedly raped by a neighbor, was involuntarily sterilized after the birth of her 1st and only child.

Medical quackery involving children continues.

Posted by: Lola at September 01, 2022 02:26 PM (NIYa7)

121 "Oops" after running someone over with your tank counts as an apology.
Posted by: DaveA
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lol

Posted by: SMH - Free Sponge! at September 01, 2022 02:26 PM (jwDzO)

122 >Honest question: what election would we have to win to stop this evil?

We can't share a country with these people.
Posted by: Motionview, a National Divorcee at September 01, 2022 02:19 PM (TD3zU)

Correct, which is why I tune out of the election/politics threads, unless there's something that's just pure amusement for me.

One of the biggest problems is that a significant fraction of our population wants this madness.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at September 01, 2022 02:26 PM (jubwE)

123 The Exorcist will be rebooted as the Incorsist.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 01, 2022 02:27 PM (eGTCV)

124 9 PM Eastern Time
Posted by: It's me donna at September 01, 2022 02:25 PM (bs+z0)


Oh good. That'll be 6:00 here, and I'll be out to dinner with the family.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 01, 2022 02:27 PM (DRSnL)

125 On a different note I was amused to read this about the oligarch Putin assassinated in Russia;

Lukoil confirmed Maganov's death, stating that it came "after a lengthy serious illness," and there is speculation that the 67-year-old may have taken his own life after receiving bad news about his condition.

This is the same sort of thing our FNM claimed when that Epstein associated "committed suicide" with a shotgun blast to the chest.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 01, 2022 02:27 PM (ESjRY)

126 Slippery Slope is a logical fallacy not because it is false, but because it fails to address the opponent's argument.

It may very well be true that doing x will lead to y an z, but that does not answer what your opponent is arguing, it merely predicts a negative result.
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Um okay. The argument was: All we want are domestic partnerships, we'll stop there.

That's actually not an argument either. Its a promise. Which was predictably broken. Predictable, because human history which is based upon human nature tends to repeat or at least rhyme. Particularly when not governed by some sort of restraining priniciples. Simply because I'm predicting a bad outcome, doesn't mean I'm not countering my opponent's argument, when that argument is basically only "let me do as I will". We know how that turns out. Whatever some ass clown "wills" next, is on the table. See it?

Posted by: But I'm an idiot don't listen to me at September 01, 2022 02:27 PM (d0AID)

127 Stop calling these evil monsters "doctors" or "surgeons", use the term vivisectionists instead. Far more accurate.

Posted by: TheMitch at September 01, 2022 02:27 PM (cDITE)

128 The pendulum hasn't even reached zenith, yet. When it stays to seeing back...
Lord, save us.
Posted by: Flyover at September 01, 2022 02:22 PM (Rbu5d)

Yep, whenever some overly optimistic stooge says we're turning the tide on the culture war I think, we haven't seen anything yet. This is going to get a lot worse.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 01, 2022 02:27 PM (qH6FZ)

129 All. About. The. Money.

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 01, 2022 02:27 PM (JgDaw)

130 I bet the Trustees at Lurie Hospital have no fucking idea what this charity hospital is doing with the money they give.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 01, 2022 02:25 PM (mOZHl)

cut off the money, not the tits

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 01, 2022 02:28 PM (M+Lyo)

131 28 This. This is why my middle name is Fucking.
Posted by: Jesus Christ at September 01, 2022 02:09 PM (M9XmQ)

Bad form. You have no idea what you are doing, and should shut up.

Posted by: Flyover at September 01, 2022 02:28 PM (Rbu5d)

132 Posted by: It's me donna at September 01, 2022 02:25 PM (bs+z0)

Thanks, Donna.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 01, 2022 02:28 PM (wvo9L)

133 The demon hordes will soon be complaining about overwork.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 01, 2022 02:28 PM (eGTCV)

134 Posted by: Ziba

Did you mean to type "one in 1000 children"?

That number is " low" to you??

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 01, 2022 02:28 PM (M9XmQ)

135 This is demonic. Truly. I've been reading about demonic possession and obsession and this type of early sexualizion/abuse is a favorite because it screws up the person for the rest of their lives. Pray for these kids and their families- they are being completely and horribly tricked and misled. Posted by LASue

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Truly. Only explanation there could be for this evil. Well said.

And prayer is the only answer. This war is being waged in the supernatural realm. Armor up, folks.

Posted by: Prime Sister at September 01, 2022 02:28 PM (tQL7r)

136 To distinguish from Aristotle's enumeration, it seems things like "slippery slope" are called "informal logical fallacies" these days.

Still, if it's slippery, and we are sliding down it, it's a slippery slope.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at September 01, 2022 02:28 PM (g1EEm)

137
"Do good to them that hate you; and pray for them, as it is, Pray for them that persecute you and accuse you falsely."

This one of the key reasons I remained Jewish and never considered Christianity. My Torah portion for my bar mitzvah was the part of Deuteronomy where it says to kill false accusers. As to doing good toward those who hate you, we read in Talmud and Mishnah that kindness to the cruel is ultimately cruelty to the kind.

Not to bag on Christianity in any way, but I have significantly different read on G-d's will for the wicked.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 01, 2022 02:29 PM (uaLxw)

138 115 I pray that in twenty years these monsters will be treated just like we eventually treated Dr. Mengele.

In 20 years, I hope to be an old retired man who gets a letter summoning him for jury duty. And I am sitting on a case where a young man who was mutilated by these doctors murdered an entire hospital wing of medical "professionals" in ways so horrid that the pictures would make you vomit.

And not only would I find that young man not guilty, I would make sure he gets a steep cash settlement from the hospital that did such things to him.

Posted by: NR Pax at September 01, 2022 02:29 PM (4olE8)

139 One of the things that came out in Matt's documentary was that each sexually mutilated patient is a huge profit Center for these demonic hospitals. On average they make over 3 million dollars per patient over the course of their shortened lifetimes.
Posted by: Beverly at September 01, 2022 02:25 PM (s0mnW)

And we get to use the machine that goes 'bing!' a lot!!

Posted by: Hospital Administrator at September 01, 2022 02:29 PM (4I/2K)

140 95 Basically, these people are saying that they can't be criticized, because the slightest criticism is "stochastic terrorism", because it will inevitably lead to death threats.
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That's not how stochastics work.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 01, 2022 02:29 PM (4vi12)

141 sick fucking Hannibal Lechter doctors

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at September 01, 2022 02:30 PM (M+Lyo)

142 Biden is on at the same time as the lord of the rings new show tonight? How can I not watch both?

Posted by: NCKate at September 01, 2022 02:30 PM (2oJif)

143 Bad form. You have no idea what you are doing, and should shut up.
Posted by: Flyover

I did, but alas there is no edit function. My apologies to all offended.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 01, 2022 02:30 PM (M9XmQ)

144 All. About. The. Money.
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For my Renfields, perhaps. For me, its about destruction of the family.

Posted by: Stan at September 01, 2022 02:30 PM (Hyq8/)

145 Trans surgeries occur in about 1,000 children (google it). That said, and even that low number is horrific, why is the trans movement being treated in media and society as if it were a movement affecting the majority? Why is its shoved in our faces everywhere as if it has gained acceptance by the majority? IMO, this is happening because the objective of the trans movement is to "normalize" the insane trans ideology being forced on decent, normal people so that one day they can claim they are part of the majority. The trans movement is getting its foothold. Now is the time to stop it and prevent further mutilation of innocent children.
Posted by: Ziba at September 01, 2022 02:26 PM (4h9M3)

To have a hold on the majority without satisfying their needs, they need a minority they can own to hold up as the moral symbol to get the rest to agree. When those groups press to get power themselves, they have to find an even smaller minority to boost to power while they run things how they want

Posted by: Oldcat at September 01, 2022 02:30 PM (eoQWY)

146
A real Island of Dr. Moreau...
Posted by: It's me donna


IL of lost souls

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 01, 2022 02:30 PM (63Dwl)

147 Every Republican running for office needs to use the term groomers and vow they'll fight for the parents and children against this leftist indoctrination.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 01, 2022 02:30 PM (NpAcC)

148 Slippery slope arguments are not used exclusively in proper rhetorical debate, so arguing that people aren't debating when you use it is true, but not relevant.

I was telling why its a rhetorical fallacy, not why its wrong or relevant to every discussion. Someone claimed it was not a fallacy until recently but that's false, its always been rejected as being one.

The homosexual marriage clash was never an argument or debate, the advocates of it never used arguments or debate or tried to prove their case. They merely attacked anyone who disagreed.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 02:31 PM (Ivdso)

149 How can I not watch both?
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Easy enough for me to not watch either.

Posted by: SMH - Free Sponge! at September 01, 2022 02:31 PM (jwDzO)

150 On a different note I was amused to read this about the oligarch Putin assassinated in Russia;

Lukoil confirmed Maganov's death, stating that it came "after a lengthy serious illness," and there is speculation that the 67-year-old may have taken his own life after receiving bad news about his condition.


Falling out of a sixth-story hospital window is a common way of committing suicide in Russia.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 01, 2022 02:31 PM (I2/tG)

151 Basically, these people are saying that they can't be criticized, because the slightest criticism is "stochastic terrorism", because it will inevitably lead to death threats.
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That's not how stochastics work.
Posted by: Puddinhead at September 01, 2022 02:29 PM (4vi12)

words are just tools their meaning doesn't matter if they work.

actual philosophy these days.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 01, 2022 02:32 PM (eoQWY)

152 And not only would I find that young man not guilty, I would make sure he gets a steep cash settlement from the hospital that did such things to him.

One of the many things that continues to frustrate me is that conservatives are still refusing to use the power of the jury to deal with some of this crap. "But the judge said we have to render a verdict based on blah only!" Ok. Then lie. "I don't see proof beyond a reasonable doubt. Not guilty".

Posted by: 18-1 at September 01, 2022 02:32 PM (ESjRY)

153 The homosexual marriage clash was never an argument or debate, the advocates of it never used arguments or debate or tried to prove their case. They merely attacked anyone who disagreed.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 02:31 PM (Ivdso)

That and cheap emotional appeals.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 01, 2022 02:32 PM (b2nrj)

154
Y'know at some point, some parent somewhere is going to start thinking that these butchers are "mobility creative", and that some "mobility affirming care" should be applied.

And then they'll start looking through their garage for the appropriate care-affirming instruments.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 01, 2022 02:32 PM (n+4am)

155 For my Renfields, perhaps. For me, its about destruction of the family.
Posted by: Stan
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Destroy the family, destroy the human race.

Duh.

Posted by: SMH - Free Sponge! at September 01, 2022 02:33 PM (jwDzO)

156 68 This is demonic....
Posted by: LASue at September 01, 2022 02:15 PM (Ed8Zd)

Yes. Completely and utterly.

Posted by: Flyover at September 01, 2022 02:33 PM (Rbu5d)

157 If a six-year-old boy believes he's Superman do they throw him off a roof?
Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 01, 2022 02:08 PM (eGTCV)

only in the mid-east

if he's gay...

Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsXQ) at September 01, 2022 02:33 PM (WhsXQ)

158 I would make sure he gets a steep cash settlement from the hospital that did such things to him.

Then wrap them up in a sleeping bag, hang them from a tree, and have a pinata party with baseball bats.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 02:33 PM (Ivdso)

159

I suppose we'll be getting the genetically engineered cat-girls the same year we get our jetpacks...

Posted by: Ken Shabby at September 01, 2022 02:33 PM (um6GQ)

160 This is demonic....

That's hate speech! And by pronouns are they/them!

Posted by: Legion at September 01, 2022 02:33 PM (ESjRY)

161 One of the many things that continues to frustrate me is that conservatives are still refusing to use the power of the jury to deal with some of this crap.

our side plays by the rules. their side is win at any costs, rules be damned

long term outlook not good

Posted by: brak at September 01, 2022 02:33 PM (j5Tg0)

162 Slightly OT, but since we are rightfully trashing the medical establishment, here is some interesting news from the NIH - national institute of health.

They are studying Ivermectin as a viable treatment for COVID. Link goes to NIH covid website.

https://tinyurl.com/5y4vjba7

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 01, 2022 02:34 PM (N39Ws)

163 Florida banned Medicaid from covering gender-affirming treatment last month.

Posted by: mr tmz at September 01, 2022 02:34 PM (rJ48h)

164 I can only barely skim these types of posts anymore -- what's going on is so enraging and horrific.

I'm coming around to thinking that the break-up of these family foundations is necessary. Gates, Soros, Pritzker, Kellogg, whatever. The foundations are colossal pools of money that -- even if founded on contrary intentions -- nevertheless wind up being controlled by progressive advocates to push poison like this onto the populace.

Posted by: Revenant at September 01, 2022 02:34 PM (LRhmV)

165 Putin Will Skip Gorbachev Funeral Due to Tight Schedule — Kremlin

I need to wash my hair that day.

Posted by: Vladmir Vladmirovich Putin! at September 01, 2022 02:35 PM (I2/tG)

166 They are studying Ivermectin as a viable treatment for COVID. Link goes to NIH covid website.

The best thing about being a "right wing conspiracy theorist" is being right about everything.

The bad part is being right 2 years too early.

Posted by: Legion at September 01, 2022 02:35 PM (ESjRY)

167 Speaking to my father the other day about the Covid madness and I said that out of all the institutions that failed us, the medical community's politicization and dereliction of duty was the most heartbreaking.

Coupled with this insanity, I can see a day where your political affiliation will be printed on your insurance card.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 01, 2022 02:35 PM (KbCG3)

168 This butchery started decades ago with the astonishing fast rise (sound familiar?) of cosmetic surgeries for increasingly trivial things and on younger and younger people (again, mostly girls). Remember the stories of girls getting boob jobs for their sweet 16s? The stories of people who had literally dozens of surgeries for trivial things like reducing fat in their ankles? It’s hard not to see these kinds of people as vulnerable and mentally ill. Asian girls in particular still get all kinds of surgeries for eyelids, ears, butts, and of course boobs. It’s a multi-billion dollar business. The tranny industry is just the same business finding newer and even more vulnerable customers.

Posted by: Elric Blade at September 01, 2022 02:35 PM (JgDaw)

169 Florida banned Medicaid from covering gender-affirming treatment last month.

DeSantis is the best governor in American history.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 01, 2022 02:35 PM (ESjRY)

170 "But the judge said we have to render a verdict based on blah only!"

That's nice. The judge had his say, the lawyers had their say. Now its up to the jury room, where the jurors have their say. It doesn't even matter what any of the legal people said before, its entirely in your hands. The judge can 'direct' the jury whatever the hell they want, but once it gets to that jury, none of that has any bearing. The jury can decide whatever they want, however they want, including all that stuff the judge told the jury to forget.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 02:35 PM (Ivdso)

171 134

About 1,000 surgeries have been performed on children in the US. Percentage wise that is low, but of course even one surgery is unforgivable. the point I try to make is that the trans movement is a small fraction of the population yet they receive the attention of media as if it were a majority. So it gets thrown in our face all the time. This is an attempt to "normalize" it: by normalizing it the movement hopes to become part of the majority. And once it represents a majority it's a whole new power they have over society, especially vulnerable children.

Posted by: Ziba at September 01, 2022 02:36 PM (4h9M3)

172 Falling out of a sixth-story hospital window is a common way of committing suicide in Russia.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 01, 2022 02:31 PM (I2/tG)

Happens every day all across the globe.

Posted by: Jack Bauer at September 01, 2022 02:36 PM (4I/2K)

173 Maybe the Republican leadership should make a trip to Lurie and have Doc Mengele sew on some nut sacks.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at September 01, 2022 02:36 PM (nSdVr)

174 Slightly OT, but since we are rightfully trashing the medical establishment, here is some interesting news from the NIH - national institute of health.

They are studying Ivermectin as a viable treatment for COVID. Link goes to NIH covid website.

https://tinyurl.com/5y4vjba7
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 01, 2022 02:34 PM (N39Ws)

Studying lol. Doctors and Nurses were using it day one. That asshole on CNN Cuomo used bootleg version while damning it on the air.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 01, 2022 02:36 PM (eoQWY)

175
Coupled with this insanity, I can see a day where your political affiliation will be printed on your insurance card.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 01, 2022 02:35 PM (KbCG3)

Nah.

A small number of people will just have a Party card. everyone else can go get fucked. Like always.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 01, 2022 02:36 PM (uaLxw)

176 Putin Will Skip Gorbachev Funeral Due to Tight Schedule — Kremlin

Well he was busy pushing the richest oil CEO out a window.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 02:36 PM (Ivdso)

177 VDH lost me in the first 10 seconds. Illogical comparisons always lose me.

Posted by: polynikes at September 01, 2022 02:36 PM (ISz6t)

178
Every Republican running for office needs to use the term groomers and vow they'll fight for the parents and children against this leftist indoctrination.
Posted by: redridinghood


Their Wall Street consultants tell them to "stay out of people's bedrooms."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 01, 2022 02:37 PM (63Dwl)

179 What did Jesus say about causing little ones to stumble and the deep blue sea?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 01, 2022 02:37 PM (eGTCV)

180 So now I am a semi-fascist stochastic terrorist.

I like my new title.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at September 01, 2022 02:37 PM (g1EEm)

181 e but I don't really want to give nicks like "bear with asymmetrical balls" credit to a site my family reads.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 02:14 PM (Ivds

Plus some people are notoriously difficult to footnote...

Posted by: ... at September 01, 2022 02:38 PM (xJCs2)

182
Putin has always been highly critical of Soviet leadership in the '80s. You might say it's been the single, formative defining characteristic of his leadership vision.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 01, 2022 02:38 PM (uaLxw)

183 I remember the left used to have Gorb-asms.

Gorby was certainly better then his predecessors but he was still a tyrant that ruled a police state.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 01, 2022 02:38 PM (ESjRY)

184 The homosexual marriage clash was never an argument or debate, the advocates of it never used arguments or debate or tried to prove their case. They merely attacked anyone who disagreed.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
==
You mistake my comments for an abstract position. I was ranting on particular history with people once here who were trying to say we should be "open" minded and believe in freedom. And back that I kept saying, look its all well and good but you are shushing down the slope. Several people chimed up that I was illogical. And engaging in fallacy. Blah blah. This recurred over the course of years. Yes. I'm still bitter about it. Bitter because i heard the same shit in lawschool. Its a disguised ad hominen attack, because most people don't get the nuance they just hear you are illogical. And the debating club nerds chime in. And you are right, when the argument isn't based on logic to begin with, you can't win it with logic. Which is why they SHUT down the slippery slope. For Years.

Posted by: still livid at September 01, 2022 02:38 PM (VjkCH)

185 172 Falling out of a sixth-story hospital window is a common way of committing suicide in Russia.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 01, 2022 02:31 PM (I2/tG)

Happens every day all across the globe.
Posted by: Jack Bauer at September 01, 2022 02:36 PM (4I/2K)

Technically, it isn't the act of falling out of a window that kills them. It is that sudden deceleration at ground level.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 01, 2022 02:38 PM (N39Ws)

186 We don't need no stinking Cubans or North Koreans.

Wolverines !!!!

Posted by: polynikes at September 01, 2022 02:38 PM (ISz6t)

187 "Although rare, regret after surgery is often due to the patient's unrealistic expectations,..."

I love that line. You mean like the unrealistic expectation (that you probably went along with) that having surgery to remove one's breasts (or other disfiguring surgery) is going to cure one's underlying mental issues (depression, anxiety, etc) and gender dysphoria?

Posted by: Where are my ping pong balls? at September 01, 2022 02:38 PM (Yr4Df)

188 If a six-year-old boy believes he's Superman do they throw him off a roof?

Of course not. That would be ridiculous. We don't have a billing code for that... Yet.

Posted by: Your moral and professional superiors at September 01, 2022 02:38 PM (nfrXX)

189 Y'know at some point, some parent somewhere is going to start thinking that these butchers are "mobility creative", and that some "mobility affirming care" should be applied.

And then they'll start looking through their garage for the appropriate care-affirming instruments.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 01, 2022 02:32 PM (n+4am)

I have some effective suggestions.

Posted by: Jack Bauer at September 01, 2022 02:38 PM (4I/2K)

190 Nah.

A small number of people will just have a Party card. everyone else can go get fucked. Like always.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 01, 2022 02:36 PM (uaLxw)

Still have to pay for the insurance. Those illegals need someone to cover their expenses.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at September 01, 2022 02:39 PM (KbCG3)

191 Putin Will Skip Gorbachev Funeral Due to Tight Schedule — Kremlin

As someone noted, all the people who hate Russia are busy explaining what a wonderful guy Gorbachev was.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 01, 2022 02:39 PM (I2/tG)

192 But remember, we're the fascists.


@VinceConglianese

According to newly released emails obtained by state AGs, Facebook & the Biden admin arranged weekly/monthly calls to discuss what to censor on the platform.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 01, 2022 02:39 PM (ZLI7S)

193 Although rare, regret after surgery is often due to the patient's unrealistic expectations,..."

As Daniel/Dani Bunting put it, after the surgery you still aren't a woman, you are just now a mutilated man.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 01, 2022 02:39 PM (ESjRY)

194 Recently I watched a true crime documentary on Hadden Clark, serial murderer and canibal. His two alcoholic parents wanted a girl instead of a boy, so his mother dressed him in girl's clothing from toddler age. There are at least 2 confirmed murders to his name and probably more.

Posted by: fly gal at September 01, 2022 02:39 PM (PqVpM)

195 Any doctor like this monster ever came near my kids, and I would nail pieces of him to a barn wall.

Posted by: UGAdawg at September 01, 2022 02:40 PM (tRd71)

196 I'm not implacably opposed to top surgery. For example, Bill Kristol could really benefit from it.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 01, 2022 02:40 PM (KFhLj)

197 As someone noted, all the people who hate Russia are busy explaining what a wonderful guy Gorbachev was.

Well those were the good days with the good Russia, when it was the Soviet Union.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 02:41 PM (Ivdso)

198 193 Although rare, regret after surgery is often due to the patient's unrealistic expectations,..."

As Daniel/Dani Bunting put it, after the surgery you still aren't a woman, you are just now a mutilated man.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 01, 2022 02:39 PM (ESjRY)

========

Someone linked to a Reddit post months ago about a man who cut himself into a woman and struggled to suppress violent thoughts about the attractive, feminine woman he worked with. He talked about killing her because of her femininity.

The guy was praised for being brave. And stunning.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 01, 2022 02:41 PM (LvTSG)

199 That's nice. The judge had his say, the lawyers had their say. Now its up to the jury room, where the jurors have their say. It doesn't even matter what any of the legal people said before, its entirely in your hands. The judge can 'direct' the jury whatever the hell they want, but once it gets to that jury, none of that has any bearing. The jury can decide whatever they want, however they want, including all that stuff the judge told the jury to forget.
==
So Christopher Taylor you would violate an oath sworn to God? I don't think so. Jurors take an oath to follow the law and instructions. Many people would break that oath. Not you I reckon. Not you.

Posted by: I'm just sayin at September 01, 2022 02:41 PM (T9yTW)

200 Several people chimed up that I was illogical. And engaging in fallacy. Blah blah.
Posted by: still livid at September 01, 2022 02:38 PM (VjkCH)

It's a bad or unreasonable demand for a complete logical proof of a position.

If I set a house on fire is it likely to be irreparably damaged? Yes. Can I prove that it will certainly be irreparably damaged? Not really.

Most scientific theories are based on empirical evidence and plausibility rather than proven from indisputable axioms.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 01, 2022 02:41 PM (b2nrj)

201 192 But remember, we're the fascists.


@VinceConglianese

According to newly released emails obtained by state AGs, Facebook & the Biden admin arranged weekly/monthly calls to discuss what to censor on the platform.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 01, 2022 02:39 PM (ZLI7S)

=========

Let's play, "IF...TRUMP...DID IT!!!!!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 01, 2022 02:41 PM (LvTSG)

202 Well those were the good days with the good Russia, when it was the Soviet Union.

Putin's currently trying to recreate the Soviet Union.

I don't know why Leftists aren't more supportive.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 01, 2022 02:42 PM (I2/tG)

203 69 Iran's state subsidizes gender reassignment surgery while prohibiting homosexuality.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 01, 2022 02:43 PM (fs1hN)

204 >>>this is happening because the objective of the trans movement is to "normalize" the insane trans ideology being forced on decent, normal people so that one day they can claim they are part of the majority. The trans movement is getting its foothold. Now is the time to stop it and prevent further mutilation of innocent children.
Posted by: Ziba

Yes, you're exactly right. Good point to remember

Posted by: Prime Sister at September 01, 2022 02:43 PM (tQL7r)

205 I think I need to get serious about fasting and prayer. Honestly, black humor aside, this is heartbreaking.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 01, 2022 02:43 PM (eGTCV)

206 We are under enemy occupation. I honestly believe it would have been better to have lost a war and be physically under occupation, with enemy troops patrolling the streets, because the difference would be that we, the population, would be united in our hatred for the occupiers and it would be their troops who would be looking over their shoulders all the time.

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at September 01, 2022 02:43 PM (vD3L0)

207 So Christopher Taylor you would violate an oath sworn to God? I don't think so. Jurors take an oath to follow the law and instructions

The entire point of having a jury is to interpret, and decide as a representative of a community, not to rubber stamp what the judge said. Ask any lawyer, any on earth, what freedom and power a jury has to decide.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 02:43 PM (Ivdso)

208 So Christopher Taylor you would violate an oath sworn to God? I don't think so. Jurors take an oath to follow the law and instructions. Many people would break that oath. Not you I reckon. Not you.
Posted by: I'm just sayin


Do you swear or affirm...

Posted by: quantum mechanic at September 01, 2022 02:43 PM (g1EEm)

209 Putin Will Skip Gorbachev Funeral Due to Tight Schedule — Kremlin

As someone noted, all the people who hate Russia are busy explaining what a wonderful guy Gorbachev was.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 01, 2022 02:39 PM (I2/tG)

During the interval where he and Romanov were fighting for the prize and Chernyenko was propped up as an expedient, Gorby went on a western tour and the fawning press made such a bad impression on the power structure than the darn near was toppled in the race. He had to spend a while recovering his position.

The next time he was due to go West the premier was pretty ill and he cancelled it to avoid that debacle.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 01, 2022 02:43 PM (eoQWY)

210 If we're nazis when do we start acting like nazis?

Posted by: NCKate at September 01, 2022 02:43 PM (2oJif)

211 Recently I watched a true crime documentary on Hadden Clark, serial murderer and canibal. His two alcoholic parents wanted a girl instead of a boy, so his mother dressed him in girl's clothing from toddler age. There are at least 2 confirmed murders to his name and probably more.
Posted by: fly gal at September 01, 2022 02:39 PM (PqVpM)

I'd guess 99% of serial killers have a sexual / sexual confusion component to them. The percentage of homosexual serial killers is much higher than the percentage of homosexuals in the general population. Nature or nurture or both.

Posted by: polynikes at September 01, 2022 02:44 PM (ISz6t)

212 Regret after surgery is "rare." Says who?

Posted by: Ziba at September 01, 2022 02:44 PM (4h9M3)

213 Destroy the family, destroy the human race.

Duh.

Posted by: SMH - Free Sponge! at September 01, 2022 02:33 PM (jwDzO)

The family is above the State. Nothing can be above the State.

Wait until the sex freaks find out, when they start getting thrown off roofs.

Posted by: ... at September 01, 2022 02:44 PM (xJCs2)

214 203 69 Iran's state subsidizes gender reassignment surgery while prohibiting homosexuality.
________

(keyboard operator error)

I meant to ask, just how good are those Iranian trans surgery doctors, or are they just butchers?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at September 01, 2022 02:44 PM (fs1hN)

215 Putin's currently trying to recreate the Soviet Union.

Not really, he's a traditional paternal autocrat which is nothing like the USSR. And he's way to ok with letting Christians be Christians for Globohomo.

Remember, the hate for Russia started when Vlad banned gay adoptions just because the westerners adopting Russian kids were molesting them.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 01, 2022 02:44 PM (ESjRY)

216
I won't say Gorbachev was any better than the rest. He was a tyrant like all of them. But he lacked vision and he lacked nerve. That's all. He was only better by virtue of his weakness and incompetence, so unbefitting a Russian autocrat.

In many ways, he was the Nikolai II Romanov of Soviet socialism, except, unfortunately, he was not executed.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 01, 2022 02:45 PM (uaLxw)

217 I gotta make dinner so not sure I have time to do nazi things.

Posted by: NCKate at September 01, 2022 02:45 PM (2oJif)

218 Most scientific theories are based on empirical evidence and plausibility rather than proven from indisputable axioms.

Science is inductive logic: you find the most likely answer. Its part of why science is always open to reexaminations: with better evidence, you find a new most plausible, best answer.

Almost none of science is 100% absolutely certain, just proven to an extremely high likelihood of certainty. We do not literally know for sure that all water is made up of H2O, its just extremely, extremely unlikely that there is any other kind of water.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 02:45 PM (Ivdso)

219 Well those were the good days with the good Russia, when it was the Soviet Union.

Putin's currently trying to recreate the Soviet Union.

I don't know why Leftists aren't more supportive.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 01, 2022 02:42 PM (I2/tG)

He's trying to maintain Russian power. Perhaps even expand it. That's not the same as Soviet power and the leftists know it.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 01, 2022 02:45 PM (eoQWY)

220 I don't have the coordination to goose step.

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 01, 2022 02:46 PM (eGTCV)

221 Good afternoon all!
My son is being looked at by a baseball coach in...Illinois. Should I be happy?

Posted by: jmel at September 01, 2022 02:46 PM (RWHIh)

222 If I set a house on fire is it likely to be irreparably damaged? Yes. Can I prove that it will certainly be irreparably damaged? Not really.

Most scientific theories are based on empirical evidence and plausibility rather than proven from indisputable axioms.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead!
==
I know. Right. Intelligent argumentation is dead. When you try it, the other side says your are illogical or can't prove that in every case, or here's an exception. As if that counters, as the existence of the exception proves the rule.

Gah. Idiots. Want to over throw Western Civilization because its not their idea of perfect. Of course their idea of perfect is a world of 500 million people max, were 499 million slaves support the life styles of a million elites.

Posted by: I'm just sayin at September 01, 2022 02:46 PM (My8yV)

223 Absolute insanity. They have to want to destroy children and society. Do we all have to suffer from mental illness to appease the craziest of crazies. If cutting oneself is a sign of mental illness, what the hell is wanting to cut off genitals? How can any of this be sanctioned by the state?

Posted by: Unkaren Expert 180 IQ 6'4 at September 01, 2022 02:46 PM (SomqJ)

224 So would these so called doctors perform lap band surgery on anorexic women?

Posted by: Chairborne!...Desk From Above! at September 01, 2022 02:46 PM (vD3L0)

225 I don't know why Leftists aren't more supportive.

Well the version of the empire he wants to create does not have communism as a goal or socialism as its method. That's what they hate.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 02:46 PM (Ivdso)

226 Damn. Grooming is apparently mainstream now.

Posted by: Fish at September 01, 2022 02:46 PM (Wql+a)

227 Good afternoon all!
My son is being looked at by a baseball coach in...Illinois. Should I be happy?
Posted by: jmel
___

Chicago AO, no.

Southern IL, depends.

Posted by: SMH - Free Sponge! at September 01, 2022 02:47 PM (jwDzO)

228
Remember, the hate for Russia started when Vlad banned gay adoptions just because the westerners adopting Russian kids were molesting them.
Posted by: 18-1 at September 01, 2022 02:44 PM (ESjRY)

Yes - and I do believe that his stance on the issue was a thinly veiled threat, when his diplomats were proscribed by Congress. As in "do you fucking deviants think the FSB didn't know? We know everything. And don't think we won't tell, either. Walk carefully, perverts."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 01, 2022 02:47 PM (uaLxw)

229 If cutting oneself is a sign of mental illness, what the hell is wanting to cut off genitals? How can any of this be sanctioned by the state?
---------------
Mental illness is thinking you are not quite right. Cutting yourself, or others, to become something else is insanity.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 01, 2022 02:48 PM (4vi12)

230 Off Topic and schadenfreudey,

https://tinyurl.com/5eebsj9y

Governor Abbott ships Illegal Immigrants to Chicago. Groot is NOT amused.

Posted by: rd at September 01, 2022 02:48 PM (Z32m1)

231 Putin is a useful club to beat domestic opposition for Democrats. That's it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 01, 2022 02:48 PM (LvTSG)

232 We're not gonna make it are we? People I mean.

Posted by: dogmom27 at September 01, 2022 02:48 PM (KWA+M)

233 Almost none of science is 100% absolutely certain, just proven to an extremely high likelihood of certainty. We do not literally know for sure that all water is made up of H2O, its just extremely, extremely unlikely that there is any other kind of water.
==
Its not what you know. Its what you don't.

Posted by: Literally at September 01, 2022 02:48 PM (RqN+K)

234 So would these so called doctors perform lap band surgery on anorexic women?

Oh, let's go even one step closer.

Do these "doctors" support hormone replacement therapy for cis-men/women?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 01, 2022 02:48 PM (ESjRY)

235 "Although rare, regret after surgery is often due to the patient's unrealistic expectations,..."

I love that line. You mean like the unrealistic expectation (that you probably went along with) that having surgery to remove one's breasts (or other disfiguring surgery) is going to cure one's underlying mental issues (depression, anxiety, etc) and gender dysphoria?
Posted by: Where are my ping pong balls? at September 01, 2022 02:38 PM (Yr4Df)

You mean that having the suspensory ligament snipped and my lumpy assfat grafted around the shaft of my penis won't have the chicks falling all over me to mate like Buddy Love from The Nutty Professor (1963)?
*sobs hysterically*

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 01, 2022 02:48 PM (4I/2K)

236 So would these so called doctors perform lap band surgery on anorexic women?

Probably.

Posted by: Oddbob at September 01, 2022 02:48 PM (nfrXX)

237 During the interval where he and Romanov were fighting for the prize

It's a shame that we didn't have a Romanov running the Communist Party of the Soviet Union - that would have been hilarious.

I bet his last name was a problem in the power struggle.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 01, 2022 02:49 PM (I2/tG)

238 Rurik > Romanov

Posted by: Kievan Rus at September 01, 2022 02:49 PM (ESjRY)

239 Good afternoon all!
My son is being looked at by a baseball coach in...Illinois. Should I be happy?
Posted by: jmel at September 01, 2022 02:46 PM (RWHIh)

The Illini?

Well the part of the state its in is likely very conservative - A town called "Normal" is nearby IIRC.

But its a university town so it likely will be leftist as hell.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 01, 2022 02:49 PM (eoQWY)

240 Putin's currently trying to recreate the Soviet Union.

I don't know why Leftists aren't more supportive.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

Because they know he's really not, and that the statement is a lie, that he hates communism, and loves the Orthodox Church.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at September 01, 2022 02:49 PM (M9XmQ)

241 You can only "know" things that are true.

You believe everything else.

Posted by: Literally at September 01, 2022 02:49 PM (RqN+K)

242 230 Off Topic and schadenfreudey,
https://tinyurl.com/5eebsj9y
Governor Abbott ships Illegal Immigrants to Chicago. Groot is NOT amused.
Posted by: rd at September 01, 2022 02:48 PM (Z32m1)

==========

It's this sort of thing that should destroy the image of the Democrat Party in the minds of certain true believers in certain causes, mostly immigration.

Democrats don't mean anything they say. It's obvious. It's extremely obvious now about this specific issue.

But partisan binds are difficult to loosen.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 01, 2022 02:49 PM (LvTSG)

243 If cutting oneself is a sign of mental illness, what the hell is wanting to cut off genitals? How can any of this be sanctioned by the state?
---------------
Mental illness is thinking you are not quite right. Cutting yourself, or others, to become something else is insanity.
Posted by: Puddinhead at September 01, 2022 02:48 PM (4vi12)

There are more than a few cases of people with body dysmorphia that want to cut off a limb to be an amputee.

Posted by: polynikes at September 01, 2022 02:50 PM (ISz6t)

244 Can young men wanting to bulk up get all the steroids and HGH they want now?

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 01, 2022 02:51 PM (eGTCV)

245 I will admit I have a scintilla of sympathy for those illegals getting bused to Lightfoot's Chicago.

Posted by: Ziba at September 01, 2022 02:51 PM (4h9M3)

246 Can young men wanting to bulk up get all the steroids and HGH they want now?

Like legally? Or just get them?

Posted by: Some NFL trainer at September 01, 2022 02:51 PM (ESjRY)

247 the Pritzker's have transitioned from the subprime mortgage business to child mutilation. what good are they?

Posted by: x at September 01, 2022 02:51 PM (uQFwj)

248 During the interval where he and Romanov were fighting for the prize

It's a shame that we didn't have a Romanov running the Communist Party of the Soviet Union - that would have been hilarious.

I bet his last name was a problem in the power struggle.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 01, 2022 02:49 PM (I2/tG)

The husband and wife reporter team and later defected who wrote the book I read on it did mention that as one of his problems. Another was his power center was Leningrad, a bit farther from the action than Gorby.

But Gorby and Romanov were both protégés of Andropov, who was as bloody-minded a fellow as was in power since Stalin. He was shot and badly crippled by the wife of some guy he'd imprisoned who lived in his building according to them.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 01, 2022 02:52 PM (eoQWY)

249 Eric Schmitt
@Eric_Schmitt

US Senate candidate, MO
In May, We filed a landmark lawsuit against top ranking Biden Admin. officials for colluding with social media companies to censor free speech. We have already received documents that show their cozy relationship, and now we're demanding more. 🧵
https://tinyurl.com/4ea354vy

Posted by: redridinghood at September 01, 2022 02:53 PM (NpAcC)

250 I think Putin is a Russian nationalist that has a Russian mindset. Most western people don't understand how the Russian mind works including me , but I know it's different.

Posted by: polynikes at September 01, 2022 02:53 PM (ISz6t)

251 Where have you gone, Vlad Dracul? A nation turns its lonely eyes to you ...

Posted by: butch at September 01, 2022 02:53 PM (i7KG2)

252 There are more than a few cases of people with body dysmorphia that want to cut off a limb to be an amputee.
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Yep. Indian beggers do this all the time to boost their income.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 01, 2022 02:53 PM (4vi12)

253 the Pritzker's have transitioned from the subprime mortgage business to child mutilation. what good are they?

/Looks at the employee of the month plaques with Pritzker's picture on them behind him.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.

Posted by: Stan at September 01, 2022 02:53 PM (ESjRY)

254 Putin's currently trying to recreate the Soviet Union.

To be fair, so it Biden, he's just calling it "NATO".

Posted by: Methos at September 01, 2022 02:53 PM (kOpft)

255 So would these so called doctors perform lap band surgery on anorexic women?

Oh, let's go even one step closer.

Do these "doctors" support hormone replacement therapy for cis-men/women?

Posted by: 18-1 at September 01, 2022 02:48 PM (ESjRY)

They might not because they don't get to cut them then, even if its just as damaging.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 01, 2022 02:54 PM (eoQWY)

256 250 I think Putin is a Russian nationalist that has a Russian mindset. Most western people don't understand how the Russian mind works including me , but I know it's different.
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A former Soviet Sub officer told me Russians are Caucasians that think like Asians. I think he was right on that.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 01, 2022 02:54 PM (4vi12)

257 For the children. Disgusting leftist turds!

Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at September 01, 2022 02:54 PM (ytSiK)

258 We're not gonna make it are we? People I mean.

Doesn't look like it. And, humanity will most likely be extinguished by some altruist trying to "save the world" instead of a batman villain.

Posted by: Unkaren Expert 180 IQ 6'4 at September 01, 2022 02:54 PM (SomqJ)

259 I will admit I have a scintilla of sympathy for those illegals getting bused to Lightfoot's Chicago.

Imagine you walked and got bus rides from Guatemala, you speak no English, and you get to America. After a few weeks processing in cages you get loaded on a bus for 12 hours and are dumped off in Washington DC. You might have a few dollars, you have a shiny new phone but you know no one, have no where to live, have no job, and only the clothes on your back.

I have sympathy for these people in terms of humanity, but the solution is to send them the hell back to where they came from.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 02:54 PM (Ivdso)

260 We're going to need a lot more wood chippers.
Posted by: Jane D'oh

There are industrial shredders that can consume whole ubers full of groomers.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at September 01, 2022 02:55 PM (XAjNx)

261 Between the illegal invaders stealing medical care from the country, old farts bleeding medicare dry for viagra and baby mammas dropping feral utes left and right on medicaid, we still have medical resources to cut off heehees and chop open new hoohaws?

Save Us ObamaCare! Save Us!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 01, 2022 02:55 PM (kweYR)

262 Destination, hell.

Posted by: Eromero at September 01, 2022 02:55 PM (oRWDD)

263 Putin's currently trying to recreate the Soviet Union.

To be fair, so it Biden, he's just calling it "NATO".
Posted by: Methos at September 01, 2022 02:53 PM (kOpft)

Putin actually had a speech, a year or so ago speaking of how the US was acting quite a bit like the USSR had. He had quite a lot of interesting examples of it.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 01, 2022 02:55 PM (eoQWY)

264 I don't get the Putin confusion. Like most leaders of significant European states throughout history, he wants to be in charge of his neighbors. It's not complicated or mysterious.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 01, 2022 02:56 PM (KFhLj)

265 Now, if Bitter Clinger wanted to wish ill will towards the Pritzer family, all who seem to be perfectly horrible people, I wouldn't condone it, but I'd understand it 😉

That's probably a trrble thing to say.

Posted by: Buddy at September 01, 2022 02:56 PM (FCbAQ)

266 The Late, Great Human Race

Posted by: That NLurker guy at September 01, 2022 02:56 PM (eGTCV)

267 Have you seen the scars from "Top Surgery"? They go across the entire girl's chest. It looks like some sadistic misogynist BUTCHER did the surgery. Compare that to a normal Mastectomy. Do you see anywhere near the scarring? Imagine if breast enlargements had any of that scarring? Who would ever go for breast enlargements. Top Surgeons are Butchers.
Posted by: rd at September 01, 2022 02:16 PM (Z32m1)


Yeah, it's just sadistic butchery. I think the idea is to guarantee that the girls absolutely can't go back to looking like women should they realize their mistake.

If they were really trying to make the girls chest look like a boys, they could "scoop" them out and remove extra tissue so they lay flat. Like an extreme breast reduction surgery. Possibly reduce the circumference of the nipples.

That would, at least, leave those poor girls looking human. And give them a road back should they want it.

But "top surgery" is just mutilation to leave the patient looking like a freak for the rest of their lives. This is nothing more than sadism of the grimmest sort.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 01, 2022 02:56 PM (5NkmN)

268 As at least a well read Russian history buff, Russians are nationalist, but seems not long ago they were more a regional nationalist.

Posted by: Skip at September 01, 2022 02:56 PM (k8B25)

269 If we're nazis when do we start acting like nazis?
Posted by: NCKate at September 01, 2022 02:43 PM (2oJif)


Ernst Rohm was a good Nazi. He was a true believer and queer as a $3 Reichsmark. He found out his value to the Nazi cause in the Night of the Long Knives. Just watch and wait until the LGBTQEIEIO crowd find out how the Democrat Leadership really feels about them.

Posted by: rd at September 01, 2022 02:56 PM (Z32m1)

270 I have sympathy for these people in terms of humanity, but the solution is to send them the hell back to where they came from.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 02:54 PM (Ivdso)

I'd prefer we shipped back a bunch of university profs and bureaucrats and 'thought leaders' instead.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 01, 2022 02:56 PM (eoQWY)

271 Surely anyone who speaks German can't be evil.

Posted by: Corona at September 01, 2022 02:57 PM (nakGR)

272 253 the Pritzker's have transitioned from the subprime mortgage business to child mutilation. what good are they?
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Behind every modern tradegy you will find an Insane Trust Fund Baby. That's why asked about Ann Lurie. She's the beig Kahuna on the Children's Hospital Board. Its Jennifer Pritzker and Bill Ayers (both ISTB) that discovered Obama and groomed and inserted him into politics. They transgendered him into Harry Potter - half muggle - half wizard.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 01, 2022 02:57 PM (4vi12)

273 116 I bet the Trustees at Lurie Hospital have no fucking idea what this charity hospital is doing with the money they give.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 01, 2022 02:25 PM (mOZHl

There is no such thing as a charity hospital anymore. The Great Society and Obamacare killed all of them.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at September 01, 2022 02:57 PM (BdMk6)

274 Transgender is the "hypnosis recovered memories" of our day.

Once again, the medical community is leading the scientific basis for the permanant destruction of lives.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 01, 2022 02:57 PM (Zf0+a)

275 Another was his power center was Leningrad, a bit farther from the action than Gorby.

Communist Party leaders from Leningrad were never fully trusted - coming from the former imperial capital was always viewed as suspicious.

It took the fall of the USSR for Putin and the other Petersburgers to finally take power.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 01, 2022 02:57 PM (I2/tG)

276 They want to diddle your kids.

Posted by: 29Victor at September 01, 2022 02:57 PM (BJKQV)

277 Putin would probably rather be a czar than a General Secretary.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at September 01, 2022 02:57 PM (LvTSG)

278 From Drugs dot com:
Certain brands or strengths of leuprolide are used to treat only men and should not be used in women or children. Always check your medicine to make sure you have received the correct brand and strength. Ask the pharmacist if you have any questions about the medicine you receive at the pharmacy.

To make sure Lupron Depot is safe for you, tell your doctor if you have ever had:

depression, mental illness or psychosis;

If you wonder why 50% trans boy try suicide and and 1 out of 10 have attempted suicide in the last year!!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 01, 2022 02:58 PM (BRHaw)

279 There needs to be so much typedeletion. So very much typedeletion.

So very, very, very much typedeletion.

By the field full.
Posted by: ... at September 01, 2022 02:04 PM (sj07


I felt a great disturbance in the blog, as if millions of grey boxes suddenly cried out in terror, and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened.

Posted by: Diesel Jones, Biologist at September 01, 2022 02:58 PM (Vu7A1)

280 Sodom and Gomorrah have joined the chat.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 01, 2022 02:58 PM (LsEU/)

281 Because they know he's really not, and that the statement is a lie, that he hates communism, and loves the Orthodox Church.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist,


For some reason people seem to think that communism is some ideology where people live in communes like the textbooks all say.

Communism is just concentration of power. Putin loves that. He is a dirty commie - nothing more, or less. They are all dirty commies, and the only good commie is a dead commie.

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at September 01, 2022 02:58 PM (ktsa1)

282 As others have pointed out here in the past, a lot of Russians have a baseless and absurd fear that they are in constant danger of being invaded and conquered so they are desperate to control their borders and control their neighbors to keep them "safe".

I mean its not like they were not invaded and conquered, once, by Mongols, almost a Millenia ago, but I mean ever since then any attempt to invade Russia has gone horrifically badly for everyone involved and never succeeded. And its only been a couple times, just ask France about being invaded some time.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 02:58 PM (Ivdso)

283 Sodom and Gomorrah have joined the chat.

Amateurs!

Posted by: San Fransisco at September 01, 2022 02:59 PM (ESjRY)

284 264 I don't get the Putin confusion. Like most leaders of significant European states throughout history, he wants to be in charge of his neighbors. It's not complicated or mysterious.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 01, 2022 02:56 PM (KFhLj)

What his precise aims are will depend on what territories he values and his beliefs regarding the difficulty of acquiring them and maintaining control of them.

The old USSR would be a very large and difficult territory to gain control over. So more modest goals seem plausible, though if were to achieve the more modest goals he might have new ones.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 01, 2022 02:59 PM (b2nrj)

285 white, Western society has created an oppressive gender binary, falsely dividing the world into the categories of man and woman,
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That is such ludicrous bullshit.

Nature divided the world into categories of man and woman, not western society. How many trannies do you think you'll find in Zimbabwe, or Papua New Guinea, or the Congo? You'll find none, because this entire "trans" insanity is a creation of idiot leftists in the west.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at September 01, 2022 02:59 PM (MvHI3)

286 And the IL-GOP sits back and says nothing about this madness.. because they don't want to scare off the wine moms.
This and graft... but mostly the graft.
Incidentally why I moved out... IL is dead.

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at September 01, 2022 02:59 PM (53oGX)

287 This is nothing more than sadism of the grimmest sort.
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Yes. Yes it is. Leave the little ones alone. Something some guy said 2,022 years ago.

Posted by: Puddinhead at September 01, 2022 03:00 PM (4vi12)

288 In local headlines:

A Russian energy company's (Lukoil) $45 million plane is subject to a federal seizure warrant. Plane currently is in Russia.

Corpus Christie man arrested after his 4yo child came to kindergarten with a loaded handgun.

It's a madhouse! A mad! house!

Posted by: Count de Monet at September 01, 2022 03:00 PM (4I/2K)

289 "...but there was a lot of anecdotal evidence to support it and the safety data that's coming out really suggest that these treatments can be used, both safe safely and appropriately," Garofalo concluded."


In Woke terms, it is "her truth" that the drugs can be used safely and appropriately to neuter children. If you attempt to use any other "truth," such as hard scientific and rigorous medical trials evidence, you are a bigoted trans-h8er who is disqualified from having an opinion.

Posted by: Gref at September 01, 2022 03:00 PM (S6ZRI)

290 I don't get the Putin confusion. Like most leaders of significant European states throughout history, he wants to be in charge of his neighbors. It's not complicated or mysterious.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 01, 2022 02:56 PM (KFhLj)

Well to be fair, because of the breakup of the USSR there is a lot of ethnic Russians in the Ukraine and Crimea, and the Russians have no sense of humor about the rise of actual Nazi-ism in the Ukraine, and even less when the government supports it as a counterweight to the regular army. It is a fact that Ukraine banned teaching Russian and Russian culture before the war. Since the war they have recently criminalized taking any sort of humanitarian aid from the occupying Russians.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 01, 2022 03:00 PM (eoQWY)

291 Chuy Ace > Jean-Pierre Ace

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at September 01, 2022 03:00 PM (53oGX)

292 He's trying to maintain Russian power. Perhaps even expand it. That's not the same as Soviet power and the leftists know it.
Posted by: Oldcat at September 01, 2022 02:45 PM

I was thinking Putin has been trying to block the many natural invasion routes to Russia, one at a time. I'm pretty sure he knows the days of millions of Russia soldiers marching west is a thing of the past. Russia no longer has the man power to do so. The next best thing is to block the ways into Russia which he has been doing for awhile.

Posted by: Beartooth at September 01, 2022 03:01 PM (RI8jR)

293 I watched Red Sparrow again this morning. The guy playing the Red Sparrow's SRV Uncle looks just like a young Putin except maybe taller.

Posted by: polynikes at September 01, 2022 03:01 PM (ISz6t)

294 274 Transgender is the "hypnosis recovered memories" of our day.

Once again, the medical community is leading the scientific basis for the permanant destruction of lives.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at September 01, 2022 02:57 PM (Zf0+a)

Which was the shock therapy of its day, which was the lobotomy of its day, which was the "germ theory of mental illness" (removing teeth and organs) of its day, which was the mercury, bleeding and purgative of its day, which was the regular beatings of its day....

A lot of money made, a lot of lives destroyed.

Posted by: 29Victor at September 01, 2022 03:02 PM (BJKQV)

295 282 As others have pointed out here in the past, a lot of Russians have a baseless and absurd fear that they are in constant danger of being invaded and conquered so they are desperate to control their borders and control their neighbors to keep them "safe".

I mean its not like they were not invaded and conquered, once, by Mongols, almost a Millenia ago, but I mean ever since then any attempt to invade Russia has gone horrifically badly for everyone involved and never succeeded. And its only been a couple times, just ask France about being invaded some time.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 02:58 PM (Ivdso)

Napoleon did get a surrender out of them the first time.

They recognize that their relatively wide and flat terrain means things can go poorly for them quickly, much like it did for Poland a couple times.

Many countries have pretty solid geographic borders. Where they don't, historically they've tried to establish buffer states or marches and then conquer until they hit a piece of solid geography.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at September 01, 2022 03:02 PM (b2nrj)

296 Putin actually had a speech, a year or so ago speaking of how the US was acting quite a bit like the USSR had. He had quite a lot of interesting examples of it.

And Putin had a point about fighting the Nazis when he noted that Ukraine had a neo-Nazi Azov Battalion. Might be total bullshit with regard to his invasion, but he can credibly claim it because they were bombing the pro-Russian parts of the Donbas region for a few years.

Posted by: Unkaren Expert 180 IQ 6'4 at September 01, 2022 03:02 PM (SomqJ)

297 Nood.

"volunteer organization that "only post bail for Black, Brown and Indigenous folks"

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 01, 2022 03:02 PM (lf83v)

298 No, I never asked.
Posted by: creeper at September 01, 2022 02:11 PM (cTCuP)

This is the way.

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at September 01, 2022 03:03 PM (53oGX)

299 Posted by: naturalfake at September 01, 2022 02:56 PM (5NkmN)

I go into a panic mode just reading this shit.
I feel a strong need to hurt someone.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at September 01, 2022 03:03 PM (ktsa1)

300 It is exceptionally rare for patients to regret transitioning surgery.
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Flat out lie.

The Tavistock gender clinic in the U.K., which was recently closed, already has more than a thousand patients who regret transitioning, lined up to join the lawsuit against the clinic.

And that's just one clinic.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at September 01, 2022 03:03 PM (MvHI3)

301 They want to diddle your kids.
Posted by: 29Victor


Opsec. So, so much opsec.

Posted by: rickb223 Cruel ace is the best ace at September 01, 2022 03:03 PM (EIEYH)

302 #conservatives should DEMAND their children be packed into a government brainwashing center for 9 hours a day - so long as the right people are in charge, it's fine, just fine.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at September 01, 2022 03:05 PM (Mtn20)

303 Transgender is the "hypnosis recovered memories" of our day.

Yeah I agree. Its great business for psychiatrists and counselors, it can even make them wealthy and famous. But its just evil.

Over and over through history we get solid painful examples of what happens when the medical or scientific community is allowed too much uncriticized, unoverseen power. We have seen what the medical community has been able to justify doing in the past, particularly to groups designated as undesirable.

These people are no more to be trusted than lawyers and car salesmen. Just because they put on a lab coat doesn't mean they're wise, trustworthy, or even sane.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 03:05 PM (Ivdso)

304 As others have pointed out here in the past, a lot of Russians have a baseless and absurd fear that they are in constant danger of being invaded and conquered so they are desperate to control their borders and control their neighbors to keep them "safe".

I mean its not like they were not invaded and conquered, once, by Mongols, almost a Millenia ago, but I mean ever since then any attempt to invade Russia has gone horrifically badly for everyone involved and never succeeded. And its only been a couple times, just ask France about being invaded some time.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 02:58 PM (Ivdso)

Lets see Germans, WWII, Allied Forces (post WWI), Germans and Austrian (WWI), Japanese (Russo Japanese War (tho not in the homeland), Nappy, the Swedes a couple of times, the Ottomans about a dozen times, the Polish Lithuanian commonwealth, The Mongol successor states probably annually for hundreds of years...

The one thing I can't call the Russians suspicion about being invaded is "unjustified".

Posted by: Oldcat at September 01, 2022 03:06 PM (eoQWY)

305 I don't get the Putin confusion. Like most leaders of significant European states throughout history, he wants to be in charge of his neighbors. It's not complicated or mysterious.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 01, 2022 02:56 PM (KFhLj)

And after centuries of being slaughtered by their neighbors Russia is inherently paranoid and will refuse to follow anyone but a strong leader. He doesn't have to be a good leader even, he just needs to have an iron fist and be able to protect Russia from their perceived or real enemies.

Posted by: 29Victor at September 01, 2022 03:07 PM (BJKQV)

306
But Gorby and Romanov were both protégés of Andropov, who was as bloody-minded a fellow as was in power since Stalin.

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Yes. And Andropov came by it honestly, in Budapest in '56. Andropov, in many ways, is similar to Putin.

But here's the thing - he did the Thing That Should Not Be in the USSR. He became GenSec as a former KGB chief. The Party and Army had always triangulated to prevent that from happening, no matter what.

It does make me wonder if the persistent rumors of him being bumped off are true.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 01, 2022 03:07 PM (uaLxw)

307 2 Could have been first but my finger slipped and I clicked on King Harv.

Posted by: lowandslow at September 01, 2022 02:02 PM (qH6FZ)
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A likely story.

Posted by: Ciampino - That's what they all say at September 01, 2022 03:07 PM (qfLjt)

308 Over and over through history we get solid painful examples of what happens when the medical or scientific community is allowed too much uncriticized, unoverseen power. We have seen what the medical community has been able to justify doing in the past, particularly to groups designated as undesirable.

These people are no more to be trusted than lawyers and car salesmen. Just because they put on a lab coat doesn't mean they're wise, trustworthy, or even sane.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 03:05 PM (Ivdso)

That's just nitpicking.

Posted by: Dr. Herbert West at September 01, 2022 03:07 PM (4I/2K)

309 The one thing I can't call the Russians suspicion about being invaded is "unjustified".

Now do France, like I said in my post.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 03:07 PM (Ivdso)

310 Putin actually had a speech, a year or so ago speaking of how the US was acting quite a bit like the USSR had. He had quite a lot of interesting examples of it.

And Putin had a point about fighting the Nazis when he noted that Ukraine had a neo-Nazi Azov Battalion. Might be total bullshit with regard to his invasion, but he can credibly claim it because they were bombing the pro-Russian parts of the Donbas region for a few years.
Posted by: Unkaren Expert 180 IQ 6'4 at September 01, 2022 03:02 PM (SomqJ)

Going back years there were leftist - BBC and western papers - exposes about Naziism in the Ukraine and the Azovs. Azovs and other units were, I read, about a third of the army at the outbreak of the war.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 01, 2022 03:08 PM (eoQWY)

311 The one thing I can't call the Russians suspicion about being invaded is "unjustified".
Posted by: Oldcat at September 01, 2022 03:06 PM (eoQWY)

Yep. It's not baseless at all. It's their history. The West somehow convinced themselves that we were at the end of history, that no conquerors would rise up again and start conquering (even though it's only be 70 years since the last one did). Russia's history has taught them that that is just a foolish dream.

Posted by: 29Victor at September 01, 2022 03:11 PM (BJKQV)

312 The one thing I can't call the Russians suspicion about being invaded is "unjustified".

Now do France, like I said in my post.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 03:07 PM (Ivdso)

France has been on the pushing side since more or less Joan of Arc. Unless their government was weak.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 01, 2022 03:14 PM (eoQWY)

313 Transgender is the "hypnosis recovered memories" of our day.

Then what's the prescribing of SSRIs for decades based on total bullshit!

Posted by: Unkaren Expert 180 IQ 6'4 at September 01, 2022 03:14 PM (SomqJ)

314 Now do France, like I said in my post.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 03:07 PM (Ivdso)

France has us. France mistakes Pax Americana for the End of History. France is so besotted with the idea of a Peaceful Perfect Future that it accepted hundreds of thousands of Muslim immigrants and ignored the damage they did to their countrymen. It's so dedicated to One World Wonderfulness that it hitched its energy wagon to Russia. France has convinced itself that the only real threat to them is is Global Warming. France is stupid.

Posted by: 29Victor at September 01, 2022 03:17 PM (BJKQV)

315 35 If a six-year-old boy believes he's Superman do they throw him off a roof?

If 4 year old girl thinks she's a kitty do they staple ears on her, cut her real ears off, and attach a tail to her?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 01, 2022 02:10 PM (Ivdso)
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I believe there is a young woman who has been mutilated to have a feline look.

Posted by: Ciampino - miaw at September 01, 2022 03:19 PM (qfLjt)

316 The insane people are now in control of whole states. You need to start identifying these school boards nuts by NAME and address. I watched a school board just last year mask our kids despite 100 parents standing there in protest!! Lawless.

Posted by: SmileyGG at September 01, 2022 03:28 PM (77cT/)

317 J. B. Pritzker is Jewish; opposing their philanthropy is just covert anti-semitism. Just like criticizing Merrick Garland.

Posted by: Rabbi Cohen at September 01, 2022 03:45 PM (QGrjp)

318 This may get me banned from ace and that would suck because I value this site.

Homosexual behavior is destructive to the soul in the same way that masturbation is, and the same way that purposefully stimulating yourself with pornography is, and the same way that abusing alcohol is.

Harboring any of these behaviors in your live instead of warring against them will get you to the death of your soul. As much as we tolerate and turn a blind eye to those behaviors in others we are watching them slide into that same eternal death.

We all can choose to call on Jesus to come live with us and lead us out of that bondage and with his help we can stop that destructive behavior.

Posted by: Paul in Texas at September 01, 2022 03:58 PM (RaWcF)

319 I'm an alumnus of one of the school districts Lurie is "partnering" with and I'm afraid to ask some friends that still teach there what they think about this. This is definitely not a glowing recommendation for my hometown.

Posted by: Octochicken at September 01, 2022 04:15 PM (oCS0o)

320 Re: Matt Walsh's point that "Mosser assures his patients that regret after surgery is “exceptionally rare.” The fact that transgenders commit suicide at an alarming rate might tend to skew the numbers of those who regret self-mutilation. Add to the responders who merely say, "It was a huge mistake" those who became obituaries in the local paper after have their gender "affirmed."

Posted by: red speck at September 01, 2022 04:26 PM (gS3OW)

321 303 >>>Over and over through history we get solid painful examples of what happens when the medical or scientific community is allowed too much uncriticized, unoverseen power. We have seen what the medical community has been able to justify doing in the past, particularly to groups designated as undesirable.


It's a combination of power and amorality. A moral government would have better oversight and management of an amoral industry. Moral industry actors would self-govern during an immoral period of governance. (Of course, a moral government and moral industry leaders would be the goal.) But an immoral agency that receives a boost from immoral governmental actors is beyond control and rationality. That's clearly what we've seen since January 2021.

Posted by: red speck at September 01, 2022 04:35 PM (gS3OW)

322 315 >>> I believe there is a young woman who has been mutilated to have a feline look.

I don't know if she would have qualified as "young," but there was at least one story in the UK Daily Mail (IIRC) about a woman who'd gone through something like 3 dozen surgeries to make her face look feline. They didn't work.

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