Diabolical: Democrats Inserted Provision Into "Inflation Reduction Act" Giving EPA Right to Control Carbon Dioxide -- Which the Supreme Court Had Just Ruled It Did Not Have the Right to Regulate

The Supreme Court found that the EPA had no right to regulate carbon dioxide for the simple reason that Congress had never specified it had that power, and that power could not be "inferred" from the list of things it was given the right to regulate.

So guess what the Democrats snuck into the bill that no one had the chance to read?

Did Joe Manchin, hailing from a coal-mining state, know about this? Did he sell out his constituents, or was he just too stupid to notice they were taking him for a ride?

When the Supreme Court restricted the ability of the Environmental Protection Agency to fight climate change this year, the reason it gave was that Congress had never granted the agency the broad authority to shift America away from burning fossil fuels.
Now it has.
Throughout the landmark climate law, passed this month, is language written specifically to address the Supreme Court's justification for reining in the E.P.A., a ruling that was one of the court's most consequential of the term. The new law amends the Clean Air Act, the country's bedrock air-quality legislation, to define the carbon dioxide produced by the burning of fossil fuels as an "air pollutant."
That language, according to legal experts as well as the Democrats who worked it into the legislation, explicitly gives the E.P.A. the authority to regulate greenhouse gases and to use its power to push the adoption of wind, solar and other renewable energy sources.
"The language, we think, makes pretty clear that greenhouse gases are pollutants under the Clean Air Act," said Senator Tom Carper, the Delaware Democrat who led the movement to revise the law. With the new law, he added, there are "no ifs, ands or buts" that Congress has told federal agencies to tackle carbon dioxide, methane and other heat-trapping emissions from power plants, automobiles and oil wells.
This month, in the hours before the bill passed the Senate, Republicans waged a last-minute, mostly unsuccessful predawn battle to remove the language from the legislation. Later that day, the Senate approved the climate-and-tax bill by a vote of 51 to 50, along party lines, with Vice President Kamala Harris casting the tiebreaking vote.

So Manchin did know about it -- and he specifically voted to keep the provision in the law.

This is a huge provision. The EPA now has the right to make rules -- without the need for additional Congressional authorization -- about how much carbon dioxide any carbon-dioxide-producing engine or factory is allowed to produce.

And Joe Manchin made it happen.

Posted by: Ace at 05:51 PM

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1 Yeet.

This sounds really diabolical. I think I need a drink.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 24, 2022 05:52 PM (XIfwF)

2 Why should WE obey any law?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 24, 2022 05:52 PM (Dc2NZ)

3 Or three

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 24, 2022 05:52 PM (XIfwF)

4 Hail Eris!

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 24, 2022 05:52 PM (XIfwF)

5 Since this originated in the Senate is a new tax, how does the entire bill now get struck down if challenged in court? Unless it was structured with severability.

Posted by: OhNoNotTheBees at August 24, 2022 05:53 PM (HgyuS)

6 Why does West Virginia vote for this guy?????

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at August 24, 2022 05:53 PM (66jxp)

7 Take a wild guess who's gonna help the EPA enforce their green agenda. Us!! And we can't wait to get out there and meet America's local small businesses!!

Posted by: 7,500 New I.R.S. Agents at August 24, 2022 05:54 PM (AD14M)

8 And the Republican leadership didn't inform their constituencies? Weird.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 24, 2022 05:54 PM (p15/h)

9 Tee hee!

Posted by: Manchin at August 24, 2022 05:54 PM (9FBGz)

10 Also slipped by parliamentarian.

Posted by: Eddie Baby at August 24, 2022 05:54 PM (Jh+89)

11 Hopefully the EPA was granted the power to regulate water vapor too. That stuff is deadly to the climate.

Posted by: Ripley at August 24, 2022 05:54 PM (MxEKc)

12 It's not like the rules apply to us, anyway.

Posted by: Your Betters at August 24, 2022 05:54 PM (P1f+c)

13 Of course they slipped it in way past the tip. It's their specialty, they being Sith lords and all.

Posted by: Eromero at August 24, 2022 05:54 PM (bRFB+)

14 Couple this with the fact that today, Newsuiance said that past 2035, no internal combustion engine cars can be sold OR LICENSED in the state of California. So we better all start saving our sheckles for some fancy golf carts.

Posted by: Defenestratus at August 24, 2022 05:55 PM (uKB+G)

15 Don't worry, after the Red Wave, the Republicans will repeal it.

Posted by: WiNO at August 24, 2022 05:55 PM (EpDzw)

16 Presidential methane is specifically excluded from EPA regulation.

Posted by: Joe Biden's Teleprompter at August 24, 2022 05:56 PM (UxriW)

17 We're really gonna need that cafe by the time it gets here.

Posted by: Rolling Donut Unharmed By gp's Flying Leap at August 24, 2022 05:56 PM (qpX6U)

18 Trump must do a YIGE government ' reorg' .... a RIF( Reduction In Force).

Wipe. Them. Out.

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at August 24, 2022 05:56 PM (wReBR)

19 Gonna be a decade of suck until they finally realize you can't legislate away physics.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 24, 2022 05:57 PM (5p7BC)

20 Democrats are the cause of your problems.

Republicans are not the cure , but are better then Biden and his Army of Idiots.

So why do people still vote for these idiots ???

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at August 24, 2022 05:57 PM (66jxp)

21 Manchin got his cut. He doesn't care. What the EPA does he'll claim plausible deniability.

Posted by: olddog in mo, No Cheetos allowed on the 'toon at August 24, 2022 05:57 PM (ju2Fy)

22 "This sounds really diabolical. I think I need a drink."

My twelve year sobriety is at slightly elevated risk.

Posted by: Rolling Donut Unharmed By gp's Flying Leap at August 24, 2022 05:57 PM (qpX6U)

23 Moderate Joe Manchin according to our style guide. Time for an update?

Posted by: Not My Reel Name at August 24, 2022 05:57 PM (jE276)

24 Don't worry, after the Red Wave, the Republicans will repeal it.
================
Right after Frank focus test's this.

Posted by: Kevin Luntz-McCarthy at August 24, 2022 05:57 PM (UxriW)

25 I thought the parliamentarian nixed this?

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 24, 2022 05:58 PM (xPl2J)

26 When they start trying to control the very air we breathe, it's time for something besides prayer vigils,

Posted by: Paco at August 24, 2022 05:58 PM (njExo)

27 Throughout the landmark climate law,

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Titled "Inflation Reduction Act"

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 24, 2022 05:58 PM (cMXNt)

28 But Manchin made an ad where he shot a gun.

I guess we just all need to learn to code on the rocks we'll have to use when power no longer exists for us serfs.

Posted by: WV Voters at August 24, 2022 05:58 PM (Tlfom)

29 Nadler's carbon dioxide produces from the methane deposits in his pants specifically exempted.

Posted by: Landofskybluewater at August 24, 2022 05:58 PM (9THSh)

30 Much of this insanity seems to be Dems just passing every imaginable stupidity and get it on paper before they lose congress, knowing Republicans will bitch and moan but will never do anything about 90% of it. We can expect a hell of a lot more and a lot worse before November.

Posted by: Ripley at August 24, 2022 05:59 PM (MxEKc)

31 On the 6:00 news tonight.
Dog bites man
Democrats lie to you.
Tune in.

Honestly Ace, are you surprised by this?
Their lips were moving, that is a dead give away that they were lying to us.

Posted by: Picric at August 24, 2022 05:59 PM (13tTk)

32 Again, go back and read the Declaration of Independence, and then emulate it for the resolution to these issues.

Let the shit fly where it will.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 24, 2022 05:59 PM (KATBx)

33 8 And the Republican leadership didn't inform their constituencies? Weird.
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 24, 2022 05:54 PM (p15/h)

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Oops

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 24, 2022 06:00 PM (cMXNt)

34 Well shit...

It'll be interesting to see how (and when) the EPA decides to use its new powers. I suspect they might wait until the mid-terms to tighten the screws on everybody.

Posted by: Nutsy at August 24, 2022 06:00 PM (OfVjg)

35 >So Manchin did know about it

SurprisedPikachuFace.jpg

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 24, 2022 06:00 PM (KOooo)

36 2 Why should WE obey any law?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 24, 2022 05:52 PM (Dc2NZ)

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Exactly.

Posted by: Coki at August 24, 2022 06:01 PM (6S84Y)

37 I'm boned. I've never been good at languages, no way will I be able to learn enough Mandarin or other China language to be useful to our new overlords after the uniparty has sucked their last million out of the country and sells us to the highest bidder whom I'm guessing will be Chyna.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at August 24, 2022 06:01 PM (3cGpq)

38 Since humans exhale CO2, we could be looking at exterminating undesirables to save the planet from the pollution caused by exhaling.

Cannot wait for that to come to pass.

Posted by: Czech Chick at August 24, 2022 06:01 PM (haWye)

39 But we need to keep the Dems in power because these Republican candidates don't meet my measure of perceived class.

Posted by: Bitch McConnell at August 24, 2022 06:02 PM (Tlfom)

40 You know, fortunately for America, fire season has been very mild this year. Let's hope Joe Bidens migrants don't burn the country down.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 24, 2022 06:02 PM (KD5bY)

41 While I'm doubting whether the president has the power to unilaterally dissolve the EPA, the NEA or any other alphabet soup agencies -

I wonder if he couldn't legally move their offices to Nome Alaska and require in-person, in-office attendance in order to keep your job at that agency.

Posted by: Defenestratus at August 24, 2022 06:02 PM (uKB+G)

42 >Why should WE obey any law?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 24, 2022 05:52 PM (Dc2NZ)

Short of the Old Testament, common law stuff, I'm all for disregarding what you can. We need a lot more Irish Democracy in the FUSA.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 24, 2022 06:02 PM (KOooo)

43 The IRS will work with your DMV to collect your carbon tax. Ford and Toyota will get their EV customers.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at August 24, 2022 06:02 PM (b+v9B)

44 "And the Republican leadership didn't inform their constituencies?"

None of the bastards ever read that shit before they sign it. Who could?

Posted by: Rolling Donut Unharmed By gp's Flying Leap at August 24, 2022 06:02 PM (qpX6U)

45 Fuck these fucking suckers of cock.

Fuck every last one of them until there is nothing left but a blood infused semn stain for their loved ones to remember them by.

Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2022 06:02 PM (LUyXH)

46 Why should WE obey any law?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at August 24, 2022 05:52 PM (Dc2NZ)

Exactly.

Posted by: Coki at August 24, 2022 06:01 PM (6S84Y)

That's a terrible thing to say.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 24, 2022 06:02 PM (yHsuS)

47 45 Fuck these fucking suckers of cock.

Fuck every last one of them until there is nothing left but a blood infused semn stain for their loved ones to remember them by.
Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2022 06:02 PM (LUyXH

Just sugar coating it. Come on man.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 24, 2022 06:03 PM (mE7cY)

48 >Couple this with the fact that today, Newsuiance said that past 2035, no internal combustion engine cars can be sold OR LICENSED in the state of California. So we better all start saving our sheckles for some fancy golf carts.
Posted by: Defenestratus at August 24, 2022 05:55 PM (uKB+G)

Wonder if they intend to also ban us non-residents of the enlightened utopia from even driving our ICE vehicles through their pristine lands?

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 24, 2022 06:03 PM (KOooo)

49 2 Because otherwise the Fed govt will throw you in jail (assuming they don't kill you in the raid, which isn't a great assumption) and invent whatever it takes to keep you there.

Posted by: Bete at August 24, 2022 06:03 PM (Tlfom)

50 How does this fit into a budget reconciliation bill? Can you just have anything in there now?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2022 06:03 PM (yQpMk)

51 A banana-in-the-tailpipe republic, if you can keep it.

Posted by: ShainS -- VDH-Endorsed-by-Proxy Connoisseur of Cruelty at August 24, 2022 06:04 PM (WAbsG)

52 >Republicans are not the cure , but are better then Biden and his Army of Idiots.

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at August 24, 2022 05:57 PM (66jxp)

That's the best "damning by faint praise" I've seen in a while.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 24, 2022 06:04 PM (KOooo)

53 Wonder if they intend to also ban us non-residents of the enlightened utopia from even driving our ICE vehicles through their pristine lands?
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 24, 2022 06:03 PM (KOooo)

There won't be any gas stations.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2022 06:04 PM (yQpMk)

54 Ha look at all the people who think war is avoidable.

Posted by: somedood at August 24, 2022 06:05 PM (sZ2f7)

55 How does this fit into a budget reconciliation bill? Can you just have anything in there now?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2022 06:03 PM (yQpMk)

There is no law anymore.

Posted by: WiNO at August 24, 2022 06:05 PM (EpDzw)

56 Here's a dumb question.

Where. The. Fuck. Are. The. Republicans?

Like, do something, already.

And no, sick burns on Twitter is not opposition.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 24, 2022 06:05 PM (mE7cY)

57
I've always said the "greenhouse gas" bullshit thing was stupid because the Earth's atmosphere is Not anything like a greenhouse.

It is a stupid, idiotic, silly, over-simplified false comparison created for very stupid people to understand the "global warming" hoax.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 24, 2022 06:05 PM (cWMuE)

58 >>How does this fit into a budget reconciliation bill?

It reduces the Deficit (in under 25 years!)

...or some shit.

Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2022 06:06 PM (LUyXH)

59 It's okay, Manchin will cut a new ad showing him firing a gun and wearing a cowboy hat and everything will be fine.

Posted by: Dr. T at August 24, 2022 06:06 PM (YYfKr)

60 I have the republican slogan!

Vote republican 2022. They could possibly any fucking worse, could they?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 24, 2022 06:06 PM (u73oe)

61 This is far worse than even that, ace. This is targeted to eliminate fertilizer and promote, I think intentionally, famine and starvation. We you strip away the pork production portions of what is underway in the Netherlands, the main target is large scale agriculture using fertilizer.

This is simply a cleverly packaged Holodomor to force the kulaks to beg their feudal lords in D.C. for more food. Pure, unadulterated evil, this is.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 24, 2022 06:07 PM (nMx88)

62 "That's a terrible thing to say.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 24, 2022 06:02 PM (yHsuS)"

It's a couple of generations overdue.

Posted by: somedood at August 24, 2022 06:07 PM (sZ2f7)

63 I too thought the parliamentarian was going to nix this, but that in expectation thereof, it was removed before final vote?

Anyway, here is, this is the entire enchilada. The ultimate totalitarian takeover, essentially all human and economic activity to be regulated. On the basis of absolutely nothing. Garbage hypothesis with no evidence to support it, unfalsifiable, with no reason whatever to think there is any departure from normal variation occurring.

And behold the sheer idiocy of the language - "landmark climate bill".

When do we get a "landmark gravity bill"? Or a "landmark tectonic activity bill"?

On top of an "inflation reduction" bill, I guess it's just more orwellian nonsense.

But, need I remind you, the mid-terms. Oh - what has been the GOP's "climate" offensive for this election? How they are offering a clear alternative to science-free, disastrous, galactically larcenous, totalitarian nightmare-enabling "climate" idiocy?

Posted by: rhomboid at August 24, 2022 06:07 PM (OTzUX)

64 >Much of this insanity seems to be Dems just passing every imaginable stupidity and get it on paper before they lose congress, knowing Republicans will bitch and moan but will never do anything about 90% of it. We can expect a hell of a lot more and a lot worse before November.
Posted by: Ripley at August 24, 2022 05:59 PM (MxEKc)

That playbook has worked for decades. The Dem wing of the Uniparty pushes the Overton Window, then the GOP wing of the Uniparty gets "control" when things get a little too crazy for Joe Normie and then "conserves" things by consolidating Dem gains. The Dem wing then astroturfs a new moral crusade, takes back control, rinse and repeat.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 24, 2022 06:07 PM (KOooo)

65 We get right on repealing this.
- all the republicans who overturned Obamacare.

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 24, 2022 06:07 PM (zL564)

66 >>Where. The. Fuck. Are. The. Republicans?

Hopefully not within 250 feet of a Grade School.

Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2022 06:07 PM (LUyXH)

67 Republicans are not the cure , but are better then Biden and his Army of Idiots.

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at August 24, 2022 05:57 PM (66jxp)

That's worked out well for us so far.

Voting is not going to resolve this because the people in charge will not give up power willingly. Not saying violence is the answer.

Posted by: WiNO at August 24, 2022 06:07 PM (EpDzw)

68 Because border control and wildfires are not a national security issue.

America could be brought to it's knees without even one shot being fired.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 24, 2022 06:07 PM (KD5bY)

69 60 Weren't banning traditiinal light bulbs and toilets done under Bush the Lesser? And Nixon gave us the EPA as well...

Posted by: Bete at August 24, 2022 06:08 PM (Tlfom)

70 Cities are going to starve before the rest of us. They can take their famine and shove it.

Posted by: somedood at August 24, 2022 06:08 PM (sZ2f7)

71 This is simply a cleverly packaged Holodomor to force the kulaks to beg their feudal lords in D.C. for more food. Pure, unadulterated evil, this is.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 24, 2022 06:07 PM (nMx8

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Starve the poor and you get riots.

Starve the middle class and you get a revolution.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 24, 2022 06:08 PM (u73oe)

72 Manchin will be suffering right along with his Brothers in West Virginia.

Except. On his Yacht. Off the Coast of Bermuda.

Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2022 06:08 PM (LUyXH)

73 Because otherwise the Fed govt will throw you in jail (assuming they don't kill you in the raid, which isn't a great assumption) and invent whatever it takes to keep you there.
Posted by: Bete at August 24, 2022 06:03 PM (Tlfom)

As I've said several times before, that will continue to be true, until or unless their ability to do that is seriously disrupted.

Posted by: Dr. T at August 24, 2022 06:09 PM (YYfKr)

74 The EPA could start by regulating the noxious emissions from Jerry Nadler. That might actually do some good...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 24, 2022 06:09 PM (K5n5d)

75 SCOTUS told the epa they couldn't regulate co2 unless congress gave them that authority and congress did just that to the surprise of no one. That's literally the way this works. Now will a future republican congress/President remove that authority is the quesiton.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 24, 2022 06:09 PM (bVYXr)

76 HOW does this fly under BUDGET reconciliation? BUT now WE have to fight it.

Posted by: SmileyGG at August 24, 2022 06:09 PM (77cT/)

77 When the poor revolt, cities burn. When the middle revolts, nations burn.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2022 06:09 PM (yQpMk)

78 69 60 Weren't banning traditiinal light bulbs and toilets done under Bush the Lesser? And Nixon gave us the EPA as well...

Yep. And GOP congresses put repealing those idiocies right beside defunding NPR. But, again, this will destroy food production and that is the intent.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 24, 2022 06:09 PM (nMx88)

79 Laws, what laws? We don't need no stinking laws unless we make them up.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at August 24, 2022 06:09 PM (3JfbU)

80 We are the carbon they want to eliminate.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at August 24, 2022 06:10 PM (C1rbv)

81 HAHAHAHA

Called it at the beginning of the week in a morning thread.

(goes back to find it)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 24, 2022 06:10 PM (g6ohO)

82
That's right, too!

We all made jokes about the Leftist Totalitarians having fits over "cow farts."

But guess what?

Now the Totalitarian EPA can limit and eventually eliminate Steer and Cows.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 24, 2022 06:10 PM (cWMuE)

83 >> SCOTUS told the epa they couldn't regulate co2 unless congress gave them that authority and congress did just that to the surprise of no one. That's literally the way this works. Now will a future republican congress/President remove that authority is the quesiton.

Just eliminate the EPA.

We can poison our own rivers, thank you very much.

Posted by: garrett at August 24, 2022 06:10 PM (LUyXH)

84 you can bet Xi isn't crying over this.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at August 24, 2022 06:10 PM (Ynyl9)

85 "If you like your internal combustion engine, you can keep your internal combustion engine."

-Stuff Democrats lied about

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 24, 2022 06:10 PM (xcxpd)

86 Manchin is as principled as any Republican. Red wave let's go!!!!

Posted by: ... at August 24, 2022 06:10 PM (cWyGz)

87
1925: Revenuers! BLAM BLAM BLAM

2025: EPA agents! BLAM BLAM BLAM

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 24, 2022 06:11 PM (u73oe)

88 This is how they ban your ICE cars, btw.

When they said EVs will be 50% of vehicle sales by 2035 they meant it. What they didn't say is they won't be producing many more than the 5% that they are now.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 24, 2022 06:11 PM (g6ohO)

89 What stops them from regulating every breath we breathe???

Posted by: doug whiddon at August 24, 2022 06:11 PM (L4pd7)

90 Democrats giving in to the Gaia Religion

Posted by: Skip at August 24, 2022 06:11 PM (k8B25)

91 Cities are going to starve before the rest of us. They can take their famine and shove it.
Posted by: somedood at August 24, 2022 06:08 PM (sZ2f7)

Sure, keep telling yourself that. They'll start shipping the vibrant out to your areas to try and farm. They'll haul away your crops at gunpoint.

Posted by: WiNO at August 24, 2022 06:11 PM (EpDzw)

92 75 I am sure that'll work just as well as Trump revoking Obama's illegal Dreamer stuff did in the USSC.

Posted by: Bete at August 24, 2022 06:11 PM (Tlfom)

93 We have been conquered and they're acting as such.

Prepare accordingly.

Posted by: ballistic at August 24, 2022 06:11 PM (oXNqT)

94 Well, obviously the Republican shitbirds didn't read the bill either. This is the first I'm hearing about it.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 24, 2022 06:12 PM (m7R0k)

95 Sure, keep telling yourself that. They'll start shipping the vibrant out to your areas to try and farm. They'll haul away your crops at gunpoint.

Posted by: WiNO at August 24, 2022 06:11 PM

That $hit won't work here in rural Texas, trust me.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 24, 2022 06:12 PM (bVYXr)

96 God must be looking down and thinking ..."Time to start Over again" ?????

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at August 24, 2022 06:12 PM (66jxp)

97 They'll haul away your crops at gunpoint.
Posted by: WiNO at August 24, 2022 06:11 PM (EpDzw)

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LMAO good luck with that shit

Posted by: ballistic at August 24, 2022 06:12 PM (oXNqT)

98 don't use industrial fertilizer, use manure

reduce the number of farm animals creating manure.

winning.

Maybe I'll start gaining weight again, just in case

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at August 24, 2022 06:12 PM (Ynyl9)

99 They'll haul away your crops at gunpoint.

[ Ukraine has entered the chat ]

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2022 06:12 PM (yQpMk)

100 So the EPA is saying that a very large part of the environment, which it is supposed to be protecting, depends upon a pollutant to survive?

Have I got that right?

Posted by: No One of Consequence at August 24, 2022 06:12 PM (RFKzk)

101 Well, obviously the Republican shitbirds didn't read the bill either. This is the first I'm hearing about it.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 24, 2022 06:12 PM

Uh they weren't allowed to read it and none of them voted for it. Can't blame the gop(e) for this mess.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 24, 2022 06:12 PM (bVYXr)

102 Why is it the government gets to decide how I live on this earth? They don't own the earth. They don't even own my state.

Why do a bunch of fat, old pasty bastards get to decide if I can drive a car or not?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 24, 2022 06:13 PM (mE7cY)

103 Go read #80 and continue down. This is being pushed by the manufacturers and the politicians, and it's been in the works for over a decade. I remember reading back around 2010 how manufacturers were saying they were switching their plants to all electric, and I remember thinking "WTF?"

This has been planned for a long time, and it's all driven by China. US buyers aren't determining sales or markets any more.

I'd wager there is something in the recent IRS bill that allows increasing emissions regulations to effectively ban gas engines soon. Someone just needs to read it now that it has passed. Not ban outright, BTW. Just make it so that no ICE cars can pass emissions tests.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Norway only has EVs because the government has guns at August 21, 2022 08:44 AM (7TccA)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 24, 2022 06:13 PM (g6ohO)

104 Cities are going to starve before the rest of us. They can take their famine and shove it.
Posted by: somedood at August 24, 2022 06:08 PM (sZ2f7)

Sure, keep telling yourself that. They'll start shipping the vibrant out to your areas to try and farm. They'll haul away your crops at gunpoint.
Posted by: WiNO at August 24, 2022 06:11 PM (EpDzw)

If only. We can't have nice, clear ROE like that.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 24, 2022 06:13 PM (xcxpd)

105 This is simply a cleverly packaged Holodomor to force the kulaks to beg their feudal lords in D.C. for more food. Pure, unadulterated evil, this is.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 24, 2022 06:07 PM (nMx8

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Where do our overlords in D.C. plan to *get* the food they will dole out to us mere peasants? If the entire world is suffering from global famine...Guess what? The rich will starve, too.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 24, 2022 06:13 PM (K5n5d)

106 We are so screwed

Posted by: Gonzotx at August 24, 2022 06:13 PM (t4poC)

107 91 Cities are going to starve before the rest of us. They can take their famine and shove it.
Posted by: somedood at August 24, 2022 06:08 PM (sZ2f7)

Sure, keep telling yourself that. They'll start shipping the vibrant out to your areas to try and farm. They'll haul away your crops at gunpoint.
Posted by: WiNO at August 24, 2022 06:11 PM (EpDzw)

This is exactly what happened after the Bolshevik Revolution, and it is what will happen now. Anyone who doesn't see this is a fool at this point, and the only question Mitch and Kevin have is what is their cut.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 24, 2022 06:13 PM (nMx88)

108 Defund the EPA.

Better yet, dismantle it.

Posted by: Anon E. Musk at August 24, 2022 06:13 PM (WmGrA)

109 Where do our overlords in D.C. plan to *get* the food they will dole out to us mere peasants? If the entire world is suffering from global famine...Guess what? The rich will starve, too.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 24, 2022 06:13 PM (K5n5d)

lol

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 24, 2022 06:14 PM (nMx88)

110 10th Amendment is all that's left at this point

Posted by: havel at August 24, 2022 06:14 PM (PRDNR)

111 That $hit won't work here in rural Texas, trust me.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 24, 2022 06:12 PM (bVYXr)

Yeah, that's why all of those illegals crossing the border are being slaughtered by the rural Texans. They'll take it. I mean they've done nothing about an invasion in their own backyard.

Posted by: WiNO at August 24, 2022 06:14 PM (EpDzw)

112 Uh they weren't allowed to read it and none of them voted for it. Can't blame the gop(e) for this mess.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 24, 2022 06:12 PM (bVYXr

That's fine. So I'll wait here patiently for the competent legislative maneuvering that stops this unlawful power grab.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 24, 2022 06:14 PM (mE7cY)

113 5 Since this originated in the Senate is a new tax, how does the entire bill now get struck down if challenged in court? Unless it was structured with severability.
Posted by: OhNoNotTheBees at August 24, 2022 05:53 PM (HgyuS)

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I assume they used the old trick of hollowing out some other bill from the House, replace 100% of the language with the new bill, so that, technically, it started in the House.

Posted by: No One of Consequence at August 24, 2022 06:14 PM (RFKzk)

114
Yep. And GOP congresses put repealing those idiocies right beside defunding NPR. But, again, this will destroy food production and that is the intent.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 24, 2022 06:09 PM (nMx8

No one will be able to afford to grow fresh fruits and vegetables and believe me you don't want to eat foreign grown food. I don't know about grains in the Midwest. It takes a lot of energy to produce food. That's just the first thing I think of. I'm sure cotton is grown overseas but at least we don't eat cotton.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 24, 2022 06:14 PM (0Cl6X)

115
Get used to eating soy fake "burgers."

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 24, 2022 06:14 PM (cWMuE)

116 Like Cambodia, they will send the urban youth out to pillage and kill in the farmland.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at August 24, 2022 06:14 PM (C1rbv)

117 I'm sure it's all legit. COVID emergency and all!

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 24, 2022 06:14 PM (zB9nf)

118 >>
Uh they weren't allowed to read it and none of them voted for it. Can't blame the gop(e) for this mess.
Posted by: Mister Scott

They should have lit up Manchin with the facts. They did nothing.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 24, 2022 06:14 PM (m7R0k)

119 103 Good call! How long has this legislation been sitting around before somebody read it, today apparently?

Posted by: Rolling Donut Unharmed By gp's Flying Leap at August 24, 2022 06:15 PM (qpX6U)

120 Those are the guys that shit in the hallways right?

Posted by: dartist at August 24, 2022 06:15 PM (+ya+t)

121 108 Defund the EPA.

Better yet, dismantle it.
Posted by: Anon E. Musk at August 24, 2022 06:13 PM (WmGrA)

types ... deletes

Posted by: havel at August 24, 2022 06:15 PM (PRDNR)

122 lol
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 24, 2022 06:14 PM (nMx8

The delusions are strong this evening.

Posted by: WiNO at August 24, 2022 06:15 PM (EpDzw)

123 OT:
Richard Frank seems to be putting his tongue ALL the way up Chaing Kai-shek's asshole in 'Tower of Skulls'. It's bizarre and a little unsettling.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 24, 2022 06:15 PM (xcxpd)

124 So we now classify a pollutant as that thing that humans expel by breathing and that plant life on earth needs to live.

I keep telling everyone, when the Great Unpleasantness gets here, being a government department employee is going to be about as popular for longevity as a bacon shop in Riyadh.

Posted by: Azathoth at August 24, 2022 06:15 PM (wb1YC)

125 "Sure, keep telling yourself that. They'll start shipping the vibrant out to your areas to try and farm. They'll haul away your crops at gunpoint.
Posted by: WiNO at August 24, 2022 06:11 PM (EpDzw)"

There isn't an army on earth with the power to pull that off. They can nuke us, they can drop NBCs on us;. any ground campaign will be crushed, utterly.

They intend to take the gloves off, but they don't fully consider we are not goatherders.

Posted by: somedood at August 24, 2022 06:16 PM (sZ2f7)

126 [ Ukraine has entered the chat ]
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2022 06:12 PM (yQpMk)

United States and Western intelligence agencies provoked the war in Ukraine in part to control their nations' food supplies and who gets fed and who does not get fed. I actually think Europeans are more likely at this point to explode than North Americans over it.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 24, 2022 06:16 PM (nMx88)

127 @113: "I assume they used the old trick of hollowing out some other bill from the House, replace 100% of the language with the new bill, so that, technically, it started in the House."

A trick that Republicans would be wise to eradicate somehow except they're more than happy to do the same when convenient.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at August 24, 2022 06:16 PM (bM7vb)

128 Like Cambodia, they will send the urban youth out to pillage and kill in the farmland.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at August 24, 2022 06:14 PM (C1rbv)
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They won't get far in their all-electric death squad vehicles. Oh, and they won't have anything to eat, either.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 24, 2022 06:16 PM (K5n5d)

129 Don't fuck with us!

Posted by: IRS + 87,000 Guns at August 24, 2022 06:16 PM (krQz2)

130 MAE I don't recall Chiang coming off as any kind of hero in "Tower". There weren't any figures looking too good, as I recall. Complete mess, with all kinds of dirty hands, from conquering/slaughtering Japanese to conniving Soviets to self-dealing warlords.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 24, 2022 06:17 PM (OTzUX)

131 Barky wanted to outlaw so called fossil fuels, and Sundowner vowed he would complete that.

Posted by: Skip at August 24, 2022 06:17 PM (k8B25)

132 I mean they've done nothing about an invasion in their own backyard.
Posted by: WiNO at August 24, 2022 06:14 PM (EpDzw)

There's a difference between kicking off a shooting war by slaughtering unarmed illegal immigrants for the crime of trespassing, and defending yourself and your larger community from the depredations of a tyrannical government....

Posted by: ballistic at August 24, 2022 06:17 PM (oXNqT)

133 129 Don't fuck with us!
Posted by: IRS + 87,000 Guns at August 24, 2022 06:16 PM (krQz2)

Exactly

Posted by: Patriots with millions of guns at August 24, 2022 06:17 PM (bs+z0)

134 Get used to eating soy fake "burgers."
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 24, 2022 06:14 PM (cWMuE)
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Made with bugs.

Posted by: Axeman at August 24, 2022 06:18 PM (krQz2)

135 I'm sorry friends, the news each day is darker than the day before. Sounds like a song lyric. But it's not. It's the rule of tyrants

Posted by: JM in Florida at August 24, 2022 06:18 PM (w+NOg)

136 There's a difference between kicking off a shooting war by slaughtering unarmed illegal immigrants for the crime of trespassing, and defending yourself and your larger community from the depredations of a tyrannical government....

*

Except for the part where it's the same assault.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 24, 2022 06:18 PM (g6ohO)

137 The number one source of carbon dioxide is humans. They now have the power to outlaw breathing.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 24, 2022 06:18 PM (lTGtQ)

138 Did Joe Manchin, hailing from a coal-mining state, know about this? Did he sell out his constituents, or was he just too stupid to notice they were taking him for a ride?

I'm gonna say option 2, plus bribes.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 24, 2022 06:18 PM (Ivdso)

139 96. God must be looking down and thinking ..."Time to start Over again" ????? - Ferd Berfall

P.G. Wodehouse wrote (perhaps putting the words in the mouth of one of his characters, I don't recall), "Perhaps man is not God's last word on the subject".

Posted by: Paco at August 24, 2022 06:18 PM (njExo)

140 They intend to take the gloves off, but they don't fully consider we are not goatherders.
Posted by: somedood at August 24, 2022 06:16 PM (sZ2f7)

Based on the horde's age range, my be is you're at least over 40. Go ahead and bluster. Reality is that blustering is all you will do. I mean they have been keeping people locked up without a trial for over a year, but that's not enough to do something. You have been weighed and found wanting.

Posted by: WiNO at August 24, 2022 06:18 PM (EpDzw)

141 Joe is still getting a lot of backlash on his FB page.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 24, 2022 06:19 PM (NpAcC)

142 But he ran ads holding a gun while wearing a plaid shirt. Surely he is one of us!!
- WV Rube Voters

Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 24, 2022 06:19 PM (OalnH)

143 Get used to eating soy fake "burgers."
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 24, 2022 06:14 PM (cWMuE)
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Made with bugs.
Posted by: Axeman at August 24, 2022 06:18 PM

Tough to grow soybeans without fertilizer and tractors etc. to process them.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 24, 2022 06:19 PM (zB9nf)

144 Yeet.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 24, 2022 05:52 PM (XIfwF)
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No. Jew?

Posted by: Axeman at August 24, 2022 06:19 PM (krQz2)

145 They want a war. Biden gave away the game last year (the feds have nukes, we just have guns).

THis country is a 3rd world state.

They want a war. We should give it to them.

Were I a governor, I'd tell the EPA to piss up a rope. And I'd work with other states.

They want a war. They won't stop.

Posted by: Putin's Moobs at August 24, 2022 06:19 PM (8r+BV)

146 They are trying for a 1917 rerun but the Russian peasants weren't well-armed and overflowing with engineers, fabricators, etc. And western russia isn't the rockies, cascades, or appalachia.

Posted by: somedood at August 24, 2022 06:19 PM (sZ2f7)

147 38 Since humans exhale CO2, we could be looking at exterminating undesirables to save the planet from the pollution caused by exhaling.

Cannot wait for that to come to pass.

Posted by: Czech Chick at August 24, 2022 06:01 PM (haWye)

My first thought. You would think the protections of the Bill of Rights would come into play, but as in many countries, it's become mere paper. Yes, Comrade, you have the right to free speech and religion, but only speech and religion we approve.

Posted by: John Roberts, SCROTUMUS at August 24, 2022 06:19 PM (ynpvh)

148 There's a difference between kicking off a shooting war by slaughtering unarmed illegal immigrants for the crime of trespassing, and defending yourself and your larger community from the depredations of a tyrannical government....

*

Except for the part where it's the same assault.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 24, 2022 06:18 PM (g6ohO)

They will always have an excuse as to why this isn't the time. But next time they better watch out.

Posted by: WiNO at August 24, 2022 06:19 PM (EpDzw)

149 137 The number one source of carbon dioxide is humans. They now have the power to outlaw breathing.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 24, 2022 06:18 PM (lTGtQ

I'm guessing the Covid crowd will make a hearty attempt at this.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 24, 2022 06:20 PM (mE7cY)

150 Dear Lord, this 'love thy neighbor' thing is my biggest failing.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 24, 2022 06:20 PM (LsEU/)

151 Off, SCUTUS sock...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:20 PM (ynpvh)

152 That $hit won't work here in rural Texas, trust me.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 24, 2022 06:12 PM (bVYXr)

Yeah, that's why all of those illegals crossing the border are being slaughtered by the rural Texans. They'll take it. I mean they've done nothing about an invasion in their own backyard.

Posted by: WiNO at August 24, 2022 06:14 PM

Psst...,your strawman is on fire.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 24, 2022 06:20 PM (bVYXr)

153 Hopefully the EPA was granted the power to regulate water vapor too. That stuff is deadly to the climate.

Posted by: Ripley at August 24, 2022 05:54 PM (MxEKc)
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Dihydrogen monoxide kills thousands every year!

Posted by: Axeman at August 24, 2022 06:20 PM (krQz2)

154 Now will a future republican congress/President remove that authority is the quesiton.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 24, 2022 06:09 PM (bVYXr)

Sure will. Right after we defund the FBI, repeal Obamacare and build a border wall. Please send $100 ASAP to make this happen.
- GOP

Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 24, 2022 06:20 PM (OalnH)

155 153 Hopefully the EPA was granted the power to regulate water vapor too. That stuff is deadly to the climate.

Posted by: Ripley at August 24, 2022 05:54 PM (MxEKc)
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Dihydrogen monoxide kills thousands every year!

Posted by: Axeman at August 24, 2022 06:20 PM (krQz2)

In Afghanistan and Pakistan right now, it's killing hundreds, if not thousands...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:21 PM (ynpvh)

156 Has anybody been keeping tab on the volume of ammunition purchases by the EPA lately?

Posted by: Paco at August 24, 2022 06:21 PM (njExo)

157 130 MAE I don't recall Chiang coming off as any kind of hero in "Tower". There weren't any figures looking too good, as I recall. Complete mess, with all kinds of dirty hands, from conquering/slaughtering Japanese to conniving Soviets to self-dealing warlords.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 24, 2022 06:17 PM (OTzUX)

I'm only 60 pages in but he's coming off as VERY pro-Peanut. Not that Vinegar Joe is to be trusted either. I just can't recall any other historian being quite so...generous to Chiang. We'll see how it goes, I liked Frank's Guadalcanal.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 24, 2022 06:21 PM (xcxpd)

158 They will always have an excuse as to why this isn't the time. But next time they better watch out.
Posted by: WiNO at August 24, 2022 06:19 PM (EpDzw)

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Dude you are glowing so brightly it can be seen from space.

Maybe tone it down a notch.

Posted by: ballistic at August 24, 2022 06:22 PM (oXNqT)

159 146 They are trying for a 1917 rerun but the Russian peasants weren't well-armed and overflowing with engineers, fabricators, etc. And western russia isn't the rockies, cascades, or appalachia.
Posted by: somedood at August 24, 2022 06:19 PM (sZ2f7)

The peasants actually were still well-armed during the first food raids. Literally every weapon the Soviets had was used to force them to give up their food. I doubt 1/100th of the effort will be required here.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 24, 2022 06:22 PM (nMx88)

160 A majority of West Virginians have been voting for Manchin since 2003. They deserve to reap what they sow with the destruction of their state's economy and the loss of their jobs.

According to an NBC poll published yesterday, Manchin is now the least popular political figure in the US - only 11% have a positive view of him.

Posted by: cool breeze at August 24, 2022 06:22 PM (UGKMd)

161 Everyone figure out why MAGA / Trump is so f*cking dangerous yet?

Those automotive plants and plans to sell EVs to China have been in place for over a decade. We can't have American manufacturing changing on the whims of Americans.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 24, 2022 06:22 PM (g6ohO)

162 Titled "Inflation Reduction Act"
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 24, 2022 05:58 PM (cMXNt)
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What won't it do?

Posted by: Axeman at August 24, 2022 06:22 PM (krQz2)

163
Okay, even if you continue to raise outlawed cattle, who's going to buy your meat?

You gonna sell everything on the black market or at your farm stand?

"ESG" aims to take full control of all the corporations via fascism. Either they comply and become "partners" in the "climate pledge" or they are shut down.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 24, 2022 06:23 PM (cWMuE)

164 And the hits keep coming.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 24, 2022 06:23 PM (7FozI)

165 157 130 MAE I don't recall Chiang coming off as any kind of hero in "Tower". There weren't any figures looking too good, as I recall. Complete mess, with all kinds of dirty hands, from conquering/slaughtering Japanese to conniving Soviets to self-dealing warlords.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 24, 2022 06:17 PM (OTzUX)

I'm only 60 pages in but he's coming off as VERY pro-Peanut. Not that Vinegar Joe is to be trusted either. I just can't recall any other historian being quite so...generous to Chiang. We'll see how it goes, I liked Frank's Guadalcanal.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 24, 2022 06:21 PM (xcxpd)

Chiang had syphillis, and was infertile as a result, so he (I believe) only son was "taken" by the Soviets to exert control over him. Some good books out there.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:23 PM (ynpvh)

166 ". I mean they have been keeping people locked up without a trial for over a year, but that's not enough to do something. You have been weighed and found wanting.
Posted by: WiNO at August 24, 2022 06:18 PM (EpDzw)"

I tell the horde a lot that most of you are far too law abiding and peaceful. Everyone I know has been busy as fuck, doing things more important than busting out a bunch of rubes that took bait, and now *are* bait

Posted by: somedood at August 24, 2022 06:23 PM (sZ2f7)

167 I hope every last fucking coal miner who voted for Manchin starves. Not figurative starve. Real die because they have nothing to eat starve.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 24, 2022 06:23 PM (OalnH)

168
Boy I can't wait until the (R) party takes control of Congress and reverses nothing and just sits there waiting for the (D)s to come tie them up to the bed again.

Posted by: Colonel Travis at August 24, 2022 06:23 PM (Cgo1x)

169 160 A majority of West Virginians have been voting for Manchin since 2003. They deserve to reap what they sow with the destruction of their state's economy and the loss of their jobs.

According to an NBC poll published yesterday, Manchin is now the least popular political figure in the US - only 11% have a positive view of him.

Posted by: cool breeze at August 24, 2022 06:22 PM (UGKMd)

I guess they don't care about Cheney anymore...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:24 PM (ynpvh)

170 Didn't they just go after an Amish farmer and fine him 300k for not running his farm the way the EPA demands?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 24, 2022 06:24 PM (mE7cY)

171 162 Titled "Inflation Reduction Act"
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 24, 2022 05:58 PM (cMXNt)
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What won't it do?

Posted by: Axeman at August 24, 2022 06:22 PM (krQz2)

Reduce inflation, for one.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:24 PM (ynpvh)

172 Gee you're an upbeat lady, WiNO. Quit if you want, but potstirring is just a pussy play.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at August 24, 2022 06:24 PM (oWBc3)

173 OT The previous post about Biden forgiving student loans? Biden said during his presser that black and Hispanics “ do not own their homes and cannot borrow against them “ Imagine Trump or a Republican making a blanket racist statement like that.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 24, 2022 06:24 PM (j98LQ)

174 Chiang had syphillis, and was infertile as a result, so he (I believe) only son was "taken" by the Soviets to exert control over him. Some good books out there.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:23 PM (ynpvh)

Apparently he was pretty pro-Soviet early on, then he found out Stalin was planning on disposing of him when his usefulness was over. So he wasn't exactly a pro-Democracy leader, to put it mildly.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 24, 2022 06:24 PM (xcxpd)

175 170 Didn't they just go after an Amish farmer and fine him 300k for not running his farm the way the EPA demands?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 24, 2022 06:24 PM (mE7cY)

Yes

Posted by: It's me donna at August 24, 2022 06:24 PM (bs+z0)

176 >>>The number one source of carbon dioxide is humans.

>I'm not buying that. That's like saying we know the perfect temperature of the Earth.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 24, 2022 06:25 PM (KD5bY)

177 170 Didn't they just go after an Amish farmer and fine him 300k for not running his farm the way the EPA demands?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 24, 2022 06:24 PM (mE7cY)

Yes
Posted by: It's me donna at August 24, 2022 06:24 PM

Fuck.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 24, 2022 06:25 PM (zB9nf)

178 Well the reprieve was nice while we had it. Too bad the law doesn't require logic and actual facts instead of just Congressional action to declare CO2 a pollutant.

Posted by: Iris at August 24, 2022 06:25 PM (foa6+)

179 I really doubt they can survive telling Americans they can't have cars, especially as EVs are impossible to make work as the standard.

Posted by: azjaeger at August 24, 2022 06:25 PM (6lLVg)

180 170. Wrong agency. USDA.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 24, 2022 06:25 PM (j98LQ)

181 I guess this is the iop down part.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 24, 2022 06:25 PM (7FozI)

182 I am ready for that strong man that Jesse Kelly swears is coming.

Posted by: abbynormal at August 24, 2022 06:25 PM (k0ys+)

183 170 Didn't they just go after an Amish farmer and fine him 300k for not running his farm the way the EPA demands?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 24, 2022 06:24 PM (mE7cY)

Wow. And the Amish don't even use gasoline to run tractors, just human, horse, and ox power...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:26 PM (ynpvh)

184 You know, I'm really tired of being fucked by these fuckers. That is all.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at August 24, 2022 06:26 PM (9c5tq)

185 Listen, nobody even reads these bills, I'm pretty sure there's numerous monstrosities squirreled away in every bill that's been passed in the last twenty years that even the masterminds don't know about.

We're proper f**ked is what we are.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 24, 2022 06:26 PM (mQFP3)

186 170 Didn't they just go after an Amish farmer and fine him 300k for not running his farm the way the EPA demands?

I think it was the USDA, but yeah, same thing. What is going to happen is that none of the departments mean anything anymore. They're all going to be armed enforcers of The State.

Posted by: Putin's Moobs at August 24, 2022 06:26 PM (8r+BV)

187 They must have had some kompromat on Manchin.

OT: is this real or Ruskie propaganda? (Source seems to be from chats on telegram). Active duty US military personnel complaining about weapons in active use by their units (for training and such) that are now being transferred to Ukraine.
https://t.me/intelslava/35920?single

Intel Slava is pro-Russian, FYI, so I'm looking for corroboration.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at August 24, 2022 06:26 PM (F5ekr)

188 We *have* to reduce the surplus population!

Posted by: The Guardian Stones Sent Us at August 24, 2022 06:26 PM (krQz2)

189 Volcanoes dump out a lot of CO2. Should probably outlaw those.

Maybe fine Hawaii ten trillion for not capping theirs.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 24, 2022 06:26 PM (mE7cY)

190 170 Didn't they just go after an Amish farmer and fine him 300k for not running his farm the way the EPA demands?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 24, 2022 06:24 PM (mE7cY)

This is just the start and of course it is with a vulnerable population. The EPA also told other Amish farmers to get with the program, i.e, quit producing food.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 24, 2022 06:26 PM (nMx88)

191 Joe is still getting a lot of backlash on his FB page.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 24, 2022 06:19 PM (NpAcC)

Oh, well it's all better, then.

Posted by: Methos at August 24, 2022 06:26 PM (kOpft)

192 I really doubt they can survive telling Americans they can't have cars, especially as EVs are impossible to make work as the standard.

*

It's hard to believe we're two years into this and people still haven't read the WEF's statements about the Great Reset.

This isn't pretend. This isn't some conspiracy. This is happening, and we're watching it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 24, 2022 06:26 PM (g6ohO)

193 174 Chiang had syphillis, and was infertile as a result, so he (I believe) only son was "taken" by the Soviets to exert control over him. Some good books out there.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:23 PM (ynpvh)

Apparently he was pretty pro-Soviet early on, then he found out Stalin was planning on disposing of him when his usefulness was over. So he wasn't exactly a pro-Democracy leader, to put it mildly.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 24, 2022 06:24 PM (xcxpd)

He was not. And he was definitely not a fan of Democracy. Taiwan developed into a free society starting back around the 1970's, if memory serves me correctly.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:27 PM (ynpvh)

194 Wow. And the Amish don't even use gasoline to run tractors, just human, horse, and ox power...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:26 PM (ynpvh)
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Exactly! Farm animal farts!

Posted by: The Guardian Stones Sent Us at August 24, 2022 06:27 PM (krQz2)

195 Dihydrogen monoxide kills thousands every year!
Posted by: Axeman at August 24, 2022 06:20 PM

Oxidane and Oxygen dihydride are equally, if not more, pernicious.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 24, 2022 06:27 PM (a3Q+t)

196 178 Well the reprieve was nice while we had it. Too bad the law doesn't require logic and actual facts instead of just Congressional action to declare CO2 a pollutant.
Posted by: Iris at August 24, 2022 06:25 PM (foa6+)

California ruled that a bee is a fish.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 24, 2022 06:28 PM (xcxpd)

197 I would expect that soil bacteria are the biggest producers of CO2. And volcanoes.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2022 06:28 PM (yQpMk)

198 Maybe 10 years ago or someone was fined by the EPA because a puddle on his property was classified as a wetland by the epa. And then because it was a werland some enviro shit needed to be done. But since it was a puddle it evaporated and hence the enviro laws were broken and then came the fines.

Maybe I’m getting somewhat wrong but it was along those lines.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 24, 2022 06:28 PM (OalnH)

199 Dr Malone on eating bugs:

https://tinyurl.com/58c67sy2

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 24, 2022 06:28 PM (9WSy4)

200 184 You know, I'm really tired of being fucked by these fuckers. That is all.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at August 24, 2022 06:26 PM (9c5tq)

I belive this full cavity sexual assault is not enjoyed by most.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:28 PM (ynpvh)

201 Maybe termites. I mean, there just aren't that many humans.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2022 06:28 PM (yQpMk)

202 climate law

Anyone who types this kind of nonsense with any sincerity needs to be put on an ice floe.

Posted by: spindrift at August 24, 2022 06:29 PM (h6Fxd)

203 Did Joe Manchin ... sell out his constituents, or was he just too stupid to notice they were taking him for a ride?

healing power of "and"?

Posted by: kulak anachronda at August 24, 2022 06:29 PM (sGtp+)

204 189 Volcanoes dump out a lot of CO2. Should probably outlaw those.

Maybe fine Hawaii ten trillion for not capping theirs.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 24, 2022 06:26 PM (mE7cY)

Heh. Cap and Trade. What will the Trade be?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:29 PM (ynpvh)

205 I guess they don't care about Cheney anymore...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:24 PM (ynpvh)

Liz Cheney was the third least popular political figure at 28%. The execrable Mike Pence was second with 25%.

But no one came close to Manchin's 11%.

Posted by: cool breeze at August 24, 2022 06:29 PM (UGKMd)

206 Gonna be a decade of suck until they finally realize you can't legislate away physics.

I was going to suggest they pass an amendment to the Law of Gravity, reducing it by 10% to reduce the amount of fuel we need to get around. You know, the old Rush concept of illustrating absurdity by being absurd. Then I realized they would do it, and increase some sort of tax to pay for it.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at August 24, 2022 06:29 PM (Y8MjH)

207 WV coal is "special".

Posted by: DaveA at August 24, 2022 06:29 PM (FhXTo)

208 Joe is still getting a lot of backlash on his FB page.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 24, 2022 06:19 PM (NpAcC)

Heavens!!! Someone might send him a mean tweet next. That’ll show him!

Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 24, 2022 06:29 PM (OalnH)

209 Dr. Drew on Twitter now: the Jab "fucked me up".

Posted by: Axeman at August 24, 2022 06:29 PM (krQz2)

210 Wow. And the Amish don't even use gasoline to run tractors, just human, horse, and ox power...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

As will those who survive. It remains to be seen if they will be the lucky ones.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at August 24, 2022 06:29 PM (9c5tq)

211 We are the ones we've been waiting for. - Jug Eared Fuckstick

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 24, 2022 06:29 PM (7FozI)

212 Can someone please remove the URL in my post? No idea how it got in my clipboard. Sorry.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at August 24, 2022 06:30 PM (F5ekr)

213 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:27 PM (ynpvh)

If you have more books on the China/Japan war to suggest, I can always add to my library. Let me know.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 24, 2022 06:30 PM (xcxpd)

214 186 170 Didn't they just go after an Amish farmer and fine him 300k for not running his farm the way the EPA demands?

I think it was the USDA, but yeah, same thing. What is going to happen is that none of the departments mean anything anymore. They're all going to be armed enforcers of The State.
Posted by: Putin's Moobs at August 24, 2022 06:26 PM (8r+BV)

The USDA may have been involved, but the EPA conducted the raid. They were heavily armed and had an armored personnel carrier on the site.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 24, 2022 06:30 PM (nMx88)

215 [ Ukraine has entered the chat ]
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2022 06:12 PM (yQpMk)

United States and Western intelligence agencies provoked the war in Ukraine in part to control their nations' food supplies and who gets fed and who does not get fed. I actually think Europeans are more likely at this point to explode than North Americans over it.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 24, 2022 06:16 PM (nMx8

What's funny is that the Ukrainians are shipping out food for these next few months despite not having enough for themselves. History repeating itself, except it isn't the Russians this time, its us.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 24, 2022 06:30 PM (eoQWY)

216 That is definitely something that any GOP controlled congress needs to address. But won't.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 24, 2022 06:30 PM (Ivdso)

217 I've saved all my money. [My daughter] doesn't have any student loans. Am I going to get my money back?"

Warren: "Of course not."

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 24, 2022 06:30 PM (BRHaw)

218 Thanks, apparently

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at August 24, 2022 06:30 PM (F5ekr)

219 Heh. Cap and Trade. What will the Trade be?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:29 PM (ynpvh

Coconut bras.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 24, 2022 06:30 PM (mE7cY)

220 Any adult governor ought to tell Congress AND SCROTUM to pound sand until and unless they can find "regulating the atmosphere" under the enumerated powers. SCROTUM is just wrong - they essentially said Congress can ignore the Constitution to pass ANY law they want. Horseshit.

Posted by: Alexander Scipio at August 24, 2022 06:30 PM (+uzCP)

221 Avenge me, Boys! Avenge meeeeeee!

Posted by: The Georgia Guidestones at August 24, 2022 06:31 PM (yQpMk)

222 199 Dr Malone on eating bugs:

https://tinyurl.com/58c67sy2

can't tinyurl at work, so imma just assume he finds them delicious, especially when dipped in butter.

Posted by: kulak anachronda at August 24, 2022 06:31 PM (sGtp+)

223 The people that already paid their student loans, they don't get anything out of this deal."

Secretary of Education Miguel Cardona: "Right."

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 24, 2022 06:31 PM (BRHaw)

224 Gonna be a decade of suck until they finally realize you can't legislate away physics.

*

Spoilers: They don't give a damn about you.

They don't care if you drive a car or not. They don't care if you starve or not. They're already telling you to eat bugs and smiling at you while they say it. They hate you. They don't care about you or your children. They'll be fine. They couldn't care less about you and yours.

The sooner you understand and accept this the more sense this will make.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 24, 2022 06:31 PM (g6ohO)

225 Heh. Cap and Trade. What will the Trade be?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:29 PM (ynpvh)
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What are your little ones doing right now?

Posted by: DC Pizza Fanciers at August 24, 2022 06:31 PM (krQz2)

226
Maybe termites. I mean, there just aren't that many humans.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2022 06:28 PM (yQpMk)

Pretty sure I've read that it's termites.

So where is the Terminix funding in this bill?

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 24, 2022 06:32 PM (jE276)

227 So, is it true that the DoD is now removing weapons in active service from various Marine units and sending them to Ukraine?

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at August 24, 2022 06:32 PM (F5ekr)

228 well that's just effing wonderful.

*spit*

I'm so happy I could just $#i7.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at August 24, 2022 06:32 PM (+eXoW)

229 220 Any adult governor ought to tell Congress AND SCROTUM to pound sand until and unless they can find "regulating the atmosphere" under the enumerated powers.

interstate commerce. can't stop diesel exhaust from utah wafting into colorado.

Posted by: kulak anachronda at August 24, 2022 06:32 PM (sGtp+)

230 Time to put in a "EPA Garden" I guess.

Hey, manure can work on a small scale. Get a few chickens and you can fertilize enough crops to feed your family. And you can eat the chickens.

Pretty soon it will be time to organize a few militias to keep the Yoots out.

Posted by: GanGanowicz at August 24, 2022 06:32 PM (Kbz60)

231 Axeman or Soyent Green

Posted by: Skip at August 24, 2022 06:32 PM (k8B25)

232 I belive this full cavity sexual assault is not enjoyed by most.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:28 PM

Key word is most.

Posted by: Surprise Otters at August 24, 2022 06:32 PM (a3Q+t)

233 What's funny is that the Ukrainians are shipping out food for these next few months despite not having enough for themselves. History repeating itself, except it isn't the Russians this time, its us.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 24, 2022 06:30 PM (eoQWY)

The future refugees to replace the native Europeans have to be fed well, you see. And that's not sarcasm. Again, it may be the Euros who actually take action and do something this winter.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 24, 2022 06:33 PM (nMx88)

234 They don't care if you drive a car or not. They don't care if you starve or not. They're already telling you to eat bugs and smiling at you while they say it. They hate you. They don't care about you or your children. They'll be fine. They couldn't care less about you and yours.
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They *THINK* they'll be fine. Their lifestyle is only possible because the economy of scale for the production of food and energy makes it so. Once that is significantly reduced for the general population, they are going to feel it too, even if they are at the back of the line. Idiots.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 24, 2022 06:33 PM (K5n5d)

235 206 Gonna be a decade of suck until they finally realize you can't legislate away physics.

I was going to suggest they pass an amendment to the Law of Gravity, reducing it by 10% to reduce the amount of fuel we need to get around. You know, the old Rush concept of illustrating absurdity by being absurd. Then I realized they would do it, and increase some sort of tax to pay for it.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at August 24, 2022 06:29 PM (Y8MjH)

One of the "Disk World" novels by Terry Pratchet had an engineer created a mail sorting machine that somehow had gears with a ratio of circumference to diameter of 4. Apparently it accessed extra dimensions to do so, causing odd effects, such as mail being processed before it was even mailed out in the first place.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:33 PM (ynpvh)

236 I think the next Republican majority needs to enact limits on how much CO2 Democrats are allowed to emit.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 24, 2022 06:33 PM (RkC6l)

237 interstate commerce. can't stop diesel exhaust from utah wafting into colorado.
Posted by: kulak anachronda at August 24, 2022 06:32 PM (sGtp+)

Use those giant fans I see dotting the prairie.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2022 06:33 PM (yQpMk)

238 236 I think the next Republican majority needs to enact limits on how much CO2 Democrats are allowed to emit.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 24, 2022 06:33 PM (RkC6l)

I'd vote for that

Posted by: It's me donna at August 24, 2022 06:34 PM (bs+z0)

239 Americans will regret this

Posted by: 496 at August 24, 2022 06:34 PM (zb8Dj)

240 OT: is this real or Ruskie propaganda? (Source seems to be from chats on telegram). Active duty US military personnel complaining about weapons in active use by their units (for training and such) that are now being transferred to Ukraine.
https://t.me/intelslava/35920?single

Intel Slava is pro-Russian, FYI, so I'm looking for corroboration.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at August 24, 2022 06:26 PM (F5ekr)

We have been sending over plenty of regular old arty to Ukraine and most of them have been blown up in counterbattery and transport missile strikes. So I have no doubt that stocks are below normal, and we probably were well below full complement in the first place with 8 years of neglect under Obama, then the losses in Afghanistan and now Ukraine.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 24, 2022 06:34 PM (eoQWY)

241 213 Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:27 PM (ynpvh)

If you have more books on the China/Japan war to suggest, I can always add to my library. Let me know.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 24, 2022 06:30 PM (xcxpd)

You probably have more books on the subject than I...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:34 PM (ynpvh)

242 Oxidane and Oxygen dihydride are equally, if not more, pernicious.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 24, 2022 06:27 PM (a3Q+t)
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Don't get me started on hydroxyl acid in our air!

Posted by: Axeman at August 24, 2022 06:35 PM (krQz2)

243 It was known!!

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 24, 2022 06:35 PM (BRHaw)

244 A lot of this is what European countries have been suffering under since the EU.

This shit lead to Brexit.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 24, 2022 06:35 PM (mE7cY)

245 Time for everyone to go back to school. Get a shit ton of loans and then blow it on guns and a vacation and then say, nah bro.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 24, 2022 06:35 PM (zB9nf)

246 such as mail being processed before it was even mailed out in the first place.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:33 PM

So, about Pixy ...

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 24, 2022 06:35 PM (a3Q+t)

247 @89

>>What stops them from regulating every breath we breathe???

Funny you should say that.
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Guy that sells blindfolds, has a wall for rent and just so happens to have a large pig farm whose main client is FEDGov.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 24, 2022 06:35 PM (mQFP3)

248 to define the carbon dioxide produced by the burning of fossil fuels as an "air pollutant."

Can't...Breathe...

Posted by: The Flowers and Trees at August 24, 2022 06:35 PM (Jg92y)

249 They *THINK* they'll be fine. Their lifestyle is only possible because the economy of scale for the production of food and energy makes it so. Once that is significantly reduced for the general population, they are going to feel it too, even if they are at the back of the line. Idiots.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

I was thinking about this last week. The tyrants in Cuba, USSR, etc got their goodies from free countries. When they've ruined every country they'll be surprised to find there is no one to make their luxury items.

Posted by: abbynormal at August 24, 2022 06:35 PM (k0ys+)

250 223 The people that already paid their student loans, they don't get anything out of this deal."

Secretary of Education Miguel Cardona: "Right."

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 24, 2022 06:31 PM (BRHaw)

They get to pay twice. Once for paying off their own loans, a second time paying off everybody elses.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:36 PM (ynpvh)

251 Even if they somehow manage to build 288,000,000 electric vehicles no one will be able to charge them let alone drive them because the electric grid will have collapsed years ago from the increased demand.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 24, 2022 06:36 PM (bVYXr)

252 This shit lead to Brexit.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 24, 2022 06:35 PM

And here we get Bidshit.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 24, 2022 06:36 PM (zB9nf)

253 One of the "Disk World" novels by Terry Pratchet had an engineer created a mail sorting machine that somehow had gears with a ratio of circumference to diameter of 4. Apparently it accessed extra dimensions to do so, causing odd effects, such as mail being processed before it was even mailed out in the first place.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:33 PM (ynpvh)
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Ah, Bergholt Stuttley "Bloody Stupid" Johnson. Crazy mad genius, but also didn't quite grasp the normal laws of physics. Or measurement.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 24, 2022 06:36 PM (K5n5d)

254 Will ANYONE f-ing stop this s—t? I am going to have to stop reading and watching news. It’s making me crazy.

Posted by: AnnaS at August 24, 2022 06:36 PM (y3veD)

255 They *THINK* they'll be fine. Their lifestyle is only possible because the economy of scale for the production of food and energy makes it so. Once that is significantly reduced for the general population, they are going to feel it too, even if they are at the back of the line. Idiots.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 24, 2022 06:33 PM (K5n5d)

Then she saw the answer; she saw the secret premise behind their words. With all of their noisy devotion to the age of science, their hysterically technological jargon, their cyclotrons, their sound rays, these men were moved forward, not by the image of an industrial skyline, but by the vision of that form of existence which the industrialists had swept away—the vision of a fat, unhygienic rajah of India, with vacant eyes staring in indolent stupor out of stagnant layers of flesh, with nothing to do but run precious gems through his fingers and, once in a while, stick a knife into the body of a starved, toil-dazed, germeaten creature, as a claim to a few grains of the creature's rice, then claim it from hundreds of millions of such creatures and thus let the rice grains gather into gems.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2022 06:36 PM (yQpMk)

256 She had thought that industrial production was a value not to be questioned by anyone; she had thought that these men's urge to expropriate the factories of others was their acknowledgment of the factories value. She,born of the industrial revolution, had not held as conceivable, had forgotten along with the tales of astrology and alchemy, what these men knew in their secret, furtive souls, knew not by means of thought, but by means of that nameless muck which they called their instincts and emotions: that so long as men struggle to stay alive, they'll never produce so little but that the man with the club won't be able to seize it and leave them still less, provided millions of them are willing to submit—that the harder their work and the less their gain, the more submissive the fiber of their spirit—that men who live by pulling levers at an electric switchboard, are not easily ruled, but men who live by digging the soil with their naked fingers, are—that the feudal baron did not need electronic factories in order to drink his brains away out of jeweled goblets, and neither did the rajahs of the People's State of India.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2022 06:36 PM (yQpMk)

257 I think the next Republican majority needs to enact limits on how much CO2 Democrats are allowed to emit.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 24, 2022 06:33 PM (RkC6l)
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Let's get a handle on the bilious clouds of methane common to an outbreak of Democrat.

Posted by: Axeman at August 24, 2022 06:36 PM (krQz2)

258 237 interstate commerce. can't stop diesel exhaust from utah wafting into colorado.
Posted by: kulak anachronda at August 24, 2022 06:32 PM (sGtp+)

Use those giant fans I see dotting the prairie.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2022 06:33 PM (yQpMk)

LOL, blow it into the Blue States, boys!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:37 PM (ynpvh)

259 176 >>>The number one source of carbon dioxide is humans.

>I'm not buying that. That's like saying we know the perfect temperature of the Earth.

pink on the inside with a nice char on the outside.

Posted by: kulak anachronda at August 24, 2022 06:37 PM (sGtp+)

260 I was thinking about this last week. The tyrants in Cuba, USSR, etc got their goodies from free countries. When they've ruined every country they'll be surprised to find there is no one to make their luxury items.
Posted by: abbynormal

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There will be plenty of people to make it for them. We're seriously discussing normal people buying chickens and planting gardens for food. Folks will line up for good jobs in nice factories when their kids are eating bugs.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 24, 2022 06:37 PM (gm6nk)

261 Can't...Breathe...
Posted by: The Flowers and Trees at August 24, 2022 06:35 PM

Flowers, trees and Saint Floyd.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 24, 2022 06:37 PM (zB9nf)

262 This is a huge provision. The EPA now has the right to make rules -- without the need for additional Congressional authorization -- about how much carbon dioxide

And right before the midterms. Perfect timing for us.

"Bold move, Cotton. Let's see how this works out..."

Posted by: t-bird at August 24, 2022 06:37 PM (dzeUe)

263 Just one more disgusting thing, in a world that teems with them: one of the poor, little momma-beagles, that had been nothing more than a caged puppy machine at Envigo is being “adopted” by Meghan and Prince Harry. No thought to the fact these are the dogs that need the security of a home w full-focus on them, until they feel safe. No home check or hoops to jump through for “the royals.” Mia just had her last litter of 9 pups and now she gets sent to these jerks for a photo op. So many good homes that were there to love her, but, as usual, the special folks jump to the front of the line.

Posted by: EveR at August 24, 2022 06:38 PM (MUpk6)

264 All legal and above board, no trickery involved. If we are this frickin stupid -- and believe me, we are -- then we deserve whatever we get. Shame on us.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at August 24, 2022 06:38 PM (x61Im)

265 A lot of this is what European countries have been suffering under since the EU.

This shit lead to Brexit.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 24, 2022 06:35 PM (mE7cY)

I'll never know why those idiots thought adding an additional, even less responsible layer of govt on top of what they had was a good idea. The annual pilgrimage of the Government from Brussles to Strasbourg has its comedic elements.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 24, 2022 06:38 PM (eoQWY)

266 They get to pay twice. Once for paying off their own loans, a second time paying off everybody elses.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:36 PM (ynpvh)

I have bought about 7 degrees!

Fuck Liberals!

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 24, 2022 06:38 PM (BRHaw)

267 What there won't be factories for are the useless crap and trinkets that the middle class buys. No $20 bluetooth speakers and $200 Chromebooks.

The wealthy will have all of the stuff they have now, though.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 24, 2022 06:38 PM (gm6nk)

268 In 1888 Grover Cleveland lost to Benjamin Harrison, claiming throughout the campaign that Harrison's free silver policy would destroy the economy.

From 1889 to 1892, Harrison's free silver policy destroyed the economy.

In 1892 Cleveland ran an "I told you so" campaign and handily won the presidency due to the high cost of imported goods.

This is going to be one of many shit sandwiches we are going to be forced to eat for the next 2.5 years. After that, if sanity regains the presidency, there are plenty of options to roll this back.

And if we don't regain the presidency, then you might want to work on learning Russian or Mandarin.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 24, 2022 06:38 PM (5p7BC)

269 my guess is Mitch put it in the bill

for the children

Posted by: REDACTED at August 24, 2022 06:38 PM (us2H3)

270 Even if they somehow manage to build 288,000,000 electric vehicles no one will be able to charge them let alone drive them because the electric grid will have collapsed years ago from the increased demand.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 24, 2022 06:36 PM (bVYXr

It's all a ruse. They don't gaf.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 24, 2022 06:39 PM (7FozI)

271 256 Then she saw the answer; she saw the secret premise behind their words.

crap. it's time to read atlas shrugged again, isn't it?

Posted by: kulak anachronda at August 24, 2022 06:39 PM (sGtp+)

272 I was thinking about this last week. The tyrants in Cuba, USSR, etc got their goodies from free countries. When they've ruined every country they'll be surprised to find there is no one to make their luxury items.
Posted by: abbynormal at August 24, 2022 06:35 PM (k0ys+)
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That's exactly it. Those tyrannies could only survive because of the largesse available in freer countries. Once that is gone worldwide, there'll be NO ONE LEFT to produce the luxury goods or even just basic food/energy needed for their survival.

It's true madness on an insane scale. I'd welcome Great Cthulhu and Azathoth to come back and rule the Earth. They'd make more sense than our current leadership.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 24, 2022 06:39 PM (K5n5d)

273 Manchin's Army, 87,000 strong, comes for all of us soon enough.

Posted by: David Prince at August 24, 2022 06:39 PM (zfuC8)

274 240
We have been sending over plenty of regular old arty to Ukraine and most of them have been blown up in counterbattery and transport missile strikes. So I have no doubt that stocks are below normal, and we probably were well below full complement in the first place with 8 years of neglect under Obama, then the losses in Afghanistan and now Ukraine.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 24, 2022 06:34 PM (eoQWY)
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Ah, thanks for the info. So, as long as we don't need to train with that stuff it won't affect readiness.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at August 24, 2022 06:39 PM (F5ekr)

275 Apparently it accessed extra dimensions to do so, causing odd effects, such as mail being processed before it was even mailed out in the first place.

Keep that under your hat. If they hear about it, they'll subsidize the post office until it happens.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at August 24, 2022 06:39 PM (Y8MjH)

276 Even if they somehow manage to build 288,000,000 electric vehicles no one will be able to charge them let alone drive them because the electric grid will have collapsed years ago from the increased demand.
Posted by: Mister Scott

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Again, they don't intend to. And don't have to.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 24, 2022 06:39 PM (gm6nk)

277 So glad Donald Trump drained the sewer and built the wall, I mean moved the embassy to Jerusalem.

Posted by: Putin's Moobs at August 24, 2022 06:39 PM (8r+BV)

278 Do you remember those children who were chanting "Mmm, mmm, Barack H____n Obama" in 2008?

At the time, I advocated garroting them as a deterrent.

Now those children have turned into the freakshow young adults who hate us, getting their loans paid off by suckers like us.

Spare no one.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 24, 2022 06:40 PM (nDrPh)

279 The wealthy will have all of the stuff they have now, though.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 24, 2022 06:38 PM (gm6nk)
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Until is stops working due to "planned obsolescence" and there are no people left with the skills or technology or resources to create more.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 24, 2022 06:40 PM (K5n5d)

280 271 Even if they somehow manage to build 288,000,000 electric vehicles no one will be able to charge them let alone drive them because the electric grid will have collapsed years ago from the increased demand.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 24, 2022 06:36 PM (bVYXr

It's all a ruse. They don't gaf.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 24, 2022 06:39 PM (7FozI)

Don't forget all the fuel used to excavate to get those precious minerals that go into "green energy" solutions...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:40 PM (ynpvh)

281 This is a huge provision. The EPA now has the right to make rules -- without the need for additional Congressional authorization -- about how much carbon dioxide

And right before the midterms. Perfect timing for us.

"Bold move, Cotton. Let's see how this works out..."
Posted by: t-bird at August 24, 2022 06:37 PM (dzeUe)

It might be interesting if the Republicans make it a campaign issue.

Ha! Just fucking with you.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2022 06:40 PM (yQpMk)

282 The Senate parliamentarian didn't rule this was beyond the scope of a budget reconciliation bill?

Posted by: Liberty at August 24, 2022 06:40 PM (bpqOm)

283 Even if they somehow manage to build 288,000,000 electric vehicles no one will be able to charge them let alone drive them because the electric grid will have collapsed years ago from the increased demand.

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It's mass transit for you, peon. This is what they want. This is what they've signaled is in their sights and plans. Along with an iron fist control over food production. This is really scary stuff.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 24, 2022 06:40 PM (sVtYq)

284 I'm wondering how long Chauvin and his buddies would have liked Floyd kneeling on his neck?
Posted by: Riptide at August 24, 2022 06:40 PM

Well, Saint Floyd had a way of avoiding all of that didn't he. Fuck him.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 24, 2022 06:41 PM (zB9nf)

285 What Infind amazing is how so many people just take propaganda at its value. Biden says the baby BBB will mean $300b savings it’s accepted as fact. The IRS says the new 87k employees will just be customer service reps and IT people and it’s accepted as fact. Student loan forgiveness helps the middle class, yep sounds legit!!

People are just brain dead zombies when it comes to challenging authority. It’s distributing to say the least.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 24, 2022 06:41 PM (OalnH)

286 Imagine that WiNO disappears after I call him a glowie.

Don't get baited, horde.

Posted by: ballistic at August 24, 2022 06:41 PM (oXNqT)

287 272 256 Then she saw the answer; she saw the secret premise behind their words.

crap. it's time to read atlas shrugged again, isn't it?
Posted by: kulak anachronda at August 24, 2022 06:39 PM (sGtp+)

I sometime think 7 impossible things before breakfast!

Posted by: Queen of Hearts at August 24, 2022 06:41 PM (BRHaw)

288 >>>They *THINK* they'll be fine. Their lifestyle is only possible because the economy of scale for the production of food and energy makes it so. Once that is significantly reduced for the general population, they are going to feel it too, even if they are at the back of the line.

>Most of these old fucks will be dead soon. It's guys like Gates and his cadre of thieves you have to keep an eye out for to monitor. Everybody is out to save the world, to save civilization, to save the planet, to save humanity.

They are all fucking insane.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 24, 2022 06:41 PM (KD5bY)

289 Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 24, 2022 06:38 PM (5p7BC)

a minor difference is that we did not have a 31 trillion and counting millstone around our neck in the 19th century

we wont be boating our way out of this one

Posted by: REDACTED at August 24, 2022 06:41 PM (us2H3)

290 I'm wondering how long Chauvin and his buddies would have liked Floyd kneeling on his neck?
Posted by: Riptide at August 24, 2022 06:40 PM (V9FoC)

I'm sure all the fentanyl dulled the pain.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2022 06:41 PM (yQpMk)

291 So glad Donald Trump drained the sewer and built the wall, I mean moved the embassy to Jerusalem.
Posted by: Putin's Moobs

*

Turns out this was the key:

"The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof"

See the bolded part? Guess what didn't happen in 2020.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 24, 2022 06:41 PM (gm6nk)

292 @279 - it's funny because Fentanyl Floyd is dead.

Posted by: 496 at August 24, 2022 06:42 PM (zb8Dj)

293 286 I'm wondering how long Chauvin and his buddies would have liked Floyd kneeling on his neck?
Posted by: Riptide at August 24, 2022 06:40 PM

Well, Saint Floyd had a way of avoiding all of that didn't he. Fuck him.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 24, 2022 06:41 PM (zB9nf)

He was already dying from what he swallowed so the police wouldn't catch him with it. He ODed. It was in the coronor's report until politics got involved.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:42 PM (ynpvh)

294 One of the "Disk World" novels by Terry Pratchet had an engineer created a mail sorting machine that somehow had gears with a ratio of circumference to diameter of 4. Apparently it accessed extra dimensions to do so, causing odd effects, such as mail being processed before it was even mailed out in the first place.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:33 PM

Going Postal. The "new pi". A most cromulent reference.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 24, 2022 06:43 PM (RkC6l)

295 Warren: "Of course not."

Posted by: Queen of Hearts at August 24, 2022 06:43 PM (BRHaw)

296 Heavens!!! Someone might send him a mean tweet next. That’ll show him!
Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 24, 2022 06:29 PM (O
********
Before he voted for the phony Inflation Reduction Act he was receiving lavish praise.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 24, 2022 06:43 PM (NpAcC)

297 289 272 256 Then she saw the answer; she saw the secret premise behind their words.

crap. it's time to read atlas shrugged again, isn't it?
Posted by: kulak anachronda at August 24, 2022 06:39 PM (sGtp+)

I sometime think 7 impossible things before breakfast!

Posted by: Queen of Hearts at August 24, 2022 06:41 PM (BRHaw)

Mostly ways they can stick their heads up their asses, to be honest.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:43 PM (ynpvh)

298 I'm wondering how long Chauvin and his buddies would have liked Floyd kneeling on his neck?
Posted by: Riptide at August 24, 2022 06:40 PM (V9FoC)
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Coroner found no signs of constricted airways.

Which means that Chauvin was doing it by the book.

Posted by: Axeman at August 24, 2022 06:43 PM (krQz2)

299 Strip mining for the materials to build these EVs is destroying the earth faster then drilling for oil.....

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at August 24, 2022 06:43 PM (66jxp)

300 He was already dying from what he swallowed so the police wouldn't catch him with it. He ODed. It was in the coronor's report until politics got involved.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:42 PM

Please don't soil the legend, the memory and the man known as Saint Floyd! The cops made him swallow all that fent!

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 24, 2022 06:44 PM (zB9nf)

301 Just the permitting, consulting, studies, ROW bullshit for all this takes fucking years.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 24, 2022 06:44 PM (7FozI)

302 Awesome. This is the start of The Great Depression 2.0. Only much worse.

Faster. Harder.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at August 24, 2022 06:44 PM (n3QVM)

303 Dr. Peter Hotez, dean for the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine (Texas Mediczl Center & Baylor is the big ka hoona), Houston, called the idea of a lab accident or deliberate spread of COVID, “an outlandish conspiracy theory”. He also said, a Congressional probe into gain-of fuction research, is a "threat to American biomedical science”

Exposed: .Hotez, who is on the Lancet COVID-19 Commission, where he co-chairs the COVID-19 Vaccines and Therapeutics task force has funded gain-of-function research on coronaviruses at the now-infamous Wuhan Institute of Virology.

https://bit.ly/3TaGTDg

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at August 24, 2022 06:44 PM (gi0xn)

304 I'm wondering how long Chauvin and his buddies would have liked Floyd kneeling on his neck?

Close analysis showed he was kneeling on the man's shoulder, not his neck.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 24, 2022 06:44 PM (Ivdso)

305 Someone — presumably not San Francisco residents — is buying SAN FRAN Giants shirts, though, as a black version of the shirt is sold out online.

Fuck you and da horse!

Posted by: Queen of Hearts at August 24, 2022 06:44 PM (BRHaw)

306 302 Strip mining for the materials to build these EVs is destroying the earth faster then drilling for oil.....

don't think of it a strip mining. think of it as clearing space for solar panels and windmills.

i see someone's figured out how to make windmill blades that can be recycled into gummi bears.

Posted by: kulak anachronda at August 24, 2022 06:44 PM (sGtp+)

307 293 So glad Donald Trump drained the sewer and built the wall, I mean moved the embassy to Jerusalem.
Posted by: Putin's Moobs
*
Turns out this was the key:
"The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof"

See the bolded part? Guess what didn't happen in 2020.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 24, 2022 06:41 PM (gm6nk)

In a banana republic, such trifling matters aren't worth mentioning...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:44 PM (ynpvh)

308 Coroner found no signs of constricted airways.

Which means that Chauvin was doing it by the book.
Posted by: Axeman at August 24, 2022 06:43 PM (krQz2)

Shh. He's rolling.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2022 06:44 PM (yQpMk)

309 Don't get baited, horde.
Posted by: ballistic at August 24, 2022 06:41 PM

No baitin'?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 24, 2022 06:44 PM (RkC6l)

310 I'm wondering how long Chauvin and his buddies would have liked Floyd kneeling on his neck?
Posted by: Riptide

*

Of all the billions of things and people I can think about, that waste of skin is about the last one I give a half a damn to waste time even reading the name of.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 24, 2022 06:45 PM (gm6nk)

311 Yeah but Floyd's dead.

Posted by: 496 at August 24, 2022 06:45 PM (zb8Dj)

312 And its funny because Chauvin and Co are enjoying prison romance right this instance.
Posted by: Riptide at August 24, 2022 06:44 PM

You sound jealous. And stupid.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 24, 2022 06:45 PM (zB9nf)

313
Close analysis showed he was kneeling on the man's shoulder, not his neck.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 24, 2022 06:44 PM (Ivdso

Ignore

Posted by: It's me donna at August 24, 2022 06:45 PM (bs+z0)

314 308 I'm wondering how long Chauvin and his buddies would have liked Floyd kneeling on his neck?

Close analysis showed he was kneeling on the man's shoulder, not his neck.

that sounds like the sort of disinformation that could get you banned from social media, citizen.

Posted by: kulak anachronda at August 24, 2022 06:45 PM (sGtp+)

315 I don't know...perhaps an entire nation living like the Amish will have an upside....

Posted by: Some Rat at August 24, 2022 06:45 PM (r1z5A)

316 Maybe we need to make clear to the GOPe in congress that unless they keep Trump busy with repeal legislation, he'll have to focus 100% only on destroying the deep state and the uniparty.

Posted by: Jaw Jaw at August 24, 2022 06:45 PM (+P7VR)

317 305 Just the permitting, consulting, studies, ROW bullshit for all this takes fucking years.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 24, 2022 06:44 PM (7FozI)

—-

Sure does!!
- Consulting Firms

Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 24, 2022 06:46 PM (OalnH)

318 293, Moron Robbie

Government grew under Trump's first term. He didn't build the wall, didn't even fight for it in the omnibus spending bill. Just did what he usually did, get on Twitter.

I voted for him in 2020, and yep, he got screwed out of it. But he didn't fight then, either. It took Texas to file that argument in SCOTUS. Trump's lawyers went the mail in/dominion voting route.

The Dems have been the chess players: if Trump runs in 2024 they'll blame him for the bioweapon called the C19 vaccine. And they'd be right- WARP speed.

Trump is not the answer.

Posted by: Putin's Moobs at August 24, 2022 06:46 PM (8r+BV)

319 294

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Dude died while under arrest. What an idiot! Ha ha. "A-a-ah! I'm ODing on fentanyl while under arrest, honey! Take a good picture! I'm dead!" What a freak!

Posted by: Chaz Reinhold at August 24, 2022 06:46 PM (F5ekr)

320 307 Dr. Peter Hotez, dean for the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine (Texas Mediczl Center & Baylor is the big ka hoona), Houston, called the idea of a lab accident or deliberate spread of COVID, “an outlandish conspiracy theory”. He also said, a Congressional probe into gain-of fuction research, is a "threat to American biomedical science”

Exposed: .Hotez, who is on the Lancet COVID-19 Commission, where he co-chairs the COVID-19 Vaccines and Therapeutics task force has funded gain-of-function research on coronaviruses at the now-infamous Wuhan Institute of Virology

https://bit.ly/3TaGTDg
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at August 24, 2022 06:44 PM (gi0xn)

We all knew!!

Posted by: Queen of Hearts at August 24, 2022 06:46 PM (BRHaw)

321 They don't care about you or your children. They'll be fine. They couldn't care less about you and yours.
--------
They will be made to care.

As has happened 100% of the time throughout history.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 24, 2022 06:46 PM (5p7BC)

322 Close analysis showed he was kneeling on the man's shoulder, not his neck.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 24, 2022 06:44 PM (Ivdso)
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They've got no use for clinical facts. They have a country to burn!

Fauci and the Shut-downers killed George Floyd.

Posted by: Axeman at August 24, 2022 06:46 PM (krQz2)

323 304 He was already dying from what he swallowed so the police wouldn't catch him with it. He ODed. It was in the coronor's report until politics got involved.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:42 PM

Please don't soil the legend, the memory and the man known as Saint Floyd! The cops made him swallow all that fent!

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 24, 2022 06:44 PM (zB9nf)

They also made him threaten a pregnant woman with a handgun...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:46 PM (ynpvh)

324 286 I'm wondering how long Chauvin and his buddies would have liked Floyd kneeling on his neck?
Posted by: Riptide at August 24, 2022 06:40 PM

wonder if George woulda like someone pointing loaded 9mm at his stomach ?

no matter, the cops saved someone life by offing George and all the other thugs like Trayvon etal

they would have all killed someone in the end, most likely one of their own race

they are animals and they are scum

Posted by: REDACTED at August 24, 2022 06:46 PM (us2H3)

325 off

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 24, 2022 06:46 PM (BRHaw)

326 The court said CO2 wasn't in the statute. It is now in the statute. Surprisingly, that is what is supposed to be done.

I don't have to like it, but that's the correct way to do that.

Posted by: Mikey NTH The Outrage Outlet is Stocked With Vexation and Ire. at August 24, 2022 06:46 PM (s+u6b)

327 197 I would expect that soil bacteria are the biggest producers of CO2. And volcanoes.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2022 06:28 PM (yQpMk)
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Probably the oceans.

Posted by: Plankton farts at August 24, 2022 06:47 PM (qfLjt)

328 We need some kinda DC-Exit

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 24, 2022 06:47 PM (gbzeC)

329 Not what a jury determined.

Heh.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2022 06:47 PM (yQpMk)

330 310 302 Strip mining for the materials to build these EVs is destroying the earth faster then drilling for oil.....

don't think of it a strip mining. think of it as clearing space for solar panels and windmills.

i see someone's figured out how to make windmill blades that can be recycled into gummi bears.

Posted by: kulak anachronda at August 24, 2022 06:44 PM (sGtp+)

The strip mining is done in a sensual manner.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:47 PM (ynpvh)

331 OOFC, people this crazy should be in straight jackets.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 24, 2022 06:47 PM (7TeuT)

332 Did he sell out his constituents, or was he just too stupid to notice they were taking him for a ride?
.......

yes.

Posted by: wth at August 24, 2022 06:47 PM (v0R5T)

333 Trump is not the answer.
Posted by: Putin's Moobs

*

You're the only one talking about Trump.

I was just pointing out that the election was a sham because the entire thing was unconstitutional in most states.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 24, 2022 06:47 PM (gm6nk)

334 I don't have to like it, but that's the correct way to do that.
Posted by: Mikey NTH The Outrage Outlet is Stocked With Vexation and Ire. at August 24, 2022 06:46 PM (s+u6b)

In a budget reconciliation bill?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2022 06:47 PM (yQpMk)

335 313 Don't get baited, horde.
Posted by: ballistic at August 24, 2022 06:41 PM

No baitin'?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 24, 2022 06:44 PM (RkC6l)

Hear that Pete! No 'batin!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:47 PM (ynpvh)

336 What Infind amazing is how so many people just take propaganda at its value. Biden says the baby BBB will mean $300b savings it’s accepted as fact. The IRS says the new 87k employees will just be customer service reps and IT people and it’s accepted as fact. Student loan forgiveness helps the middle class, yep sounds legit!!

People are just brain dead zombies when it comes to challenging authority. It’s distributing to say the least.

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This is where a functioning media would come in handy. But that's not going to happen.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 24, 2022 06:48 PM (sVtYq)

337 "Fission For The Future Act"

Sponsors; Joe Manchin(D-WV) & John Barraso(R-WY)

Majority of this bill is subsidies for green energy. Go read this legislation Manchin and Barraso are sponsoring. Follow the money. The nuclear reactor being built in Wyoming by Bill Gates. Follow the money.

Joe Manchin held out on BBB for this. He didn't cave.

Posted by: JROD at August 24, 2022 06:48 PM (0jZnq)

338 Troll shit is thick today.. Be careful where you step

Posted by: It's me donna at August 24, 2022 06:48 PM (bs+z0)

339 No. Happy to see people get what they deserve.

**

+1

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 24, 2022 06:48 PM (gm6nk)

340 You sound jealous. And stupid.
Posted by: Minnfidel at August 24, 2022 06:45 PM (zB9nf)

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No. Happy to see people get what they deserve.
Posted by: Riptide at August 24, 2022 06:46 PM

Yes. Saint Floyd did. Go lay a flower.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 24, 2022 06:48 PM (zB9nf)

341 The strip mining should be done by pole dancers.

Posted by: wth at August 24, 2022 06:48 PM (v0R5T)

342 the dims have given up on America and are moving on to a whole new idea

they are just waiting for the collapse

Posted by: REDACTED at August 24, 2022 06:48 PM (us2H3)

343 Co2 killed Manchin and Floyd?
- guy who just skims the page

Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 24, 2022 06:48 PM (OalnH)

344 Which means that Chauvin was doing it by the book.
Posted by: Axeman at August 24, 2022 06:43 PM (krQz2)

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Not what a jury determined.

Posted by: Riptide at August 24, 2022 06:45 PM (V9FoC)
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Because the jury knows so much about forensic evidence, right?

Look, you got your scalp. Some day soon Chauvin may die so you can dance on his grave.

Posted by: Axeman at August 24, 2022 06:48 PM (krQz2)

345 >>And its funny because Chauvin and Co are enjoying prison romance right this instance.

Will no one rid me of this meddlesome troll?

Posted by: Hawkpilot at August 24, 2022 06:48 PM (Y8MjH)

346 348 The strip mining should be done by pole dancers.

like the milkmaids in the eurovision video a couple of years ago?

Posted by: kulak anachronda at August 24, 2022 06:49 PM (sGtp+)

347 68 Because border control and wildfires are not a national security issue.

America could be brought to it's knees without even one shot being fired.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 24, 2022 06:07 PM (KD5bY)

The Junta has never bothered with providing any sane rationale for its open border policy. On the rare occasions a reporter asked Joe COVID or Junta members for reasons for their US-destroying policy, the response is always simply "turning away refugees is not who we are as a country!" in an outraged tone of voice.

Posted by: Gref at August 24, 2022 06:49 PM (AMIL/)

348 I sometime think 7 impossible things before breakfast!

Posted by: Queen of Hearts at August 24, 2022 06:41 PM (BRHaw)

Mostly ways they can stick their heads up their asses, to be honest.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

That can only be done contrariwise.

Posted by: Tweedledum at August 24, 2022 06:49 PM (9c5tq)

349 "And Joe Manchin made it happen."

Umm no Ace - the SUPREMES made it happen.

"How you can get what you want with one simple trick!" SCOTUS literally telegraphed to the law-passing party EXACTLY what it needed to do to get its way in the months it had left.

Law won't be repealed until at least 2025, during which time the Deep State's EPA can do as much damage as it damn well desires.

Unless it's ruled unconstitutional, which let's face it....we'll need a VERY good lawsuit to go before the Justices so that the 'Conservative' faction can undo its gobsmacking lack in judgment.

Posted by: geewhiz at August 24, 2022 06:49 PM (XjuKB)

350 Now I'm going to have to make at least three Saint Fentanyl jokes before bedtime.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2022 06:49 PM (yQpMk)

351 Moderna documents regarding their Covid vaccine trial on animals, obtained via a Freedom of Information Act request by Judicial Watch, showed that some of the offspring of rats that were injected with Moderna’s mRNA shot developed rib malformations. The documents have not yet been made public,

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 24, 2022 06:49 PM (BRHaw)

352 I would respect the BLM stuff a lot more if they gave a crap about actual heroic, good men who were cruelly killed rather than some street scumbag who died in arrest. Or maybe just some of those little kids gunned down by gang bangers. You know the little girl shot by some idiot's spraying bullets at a rival? What about those deaths?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 24, 2022 06:49 PM (Ivdso)

353 334 We need some kinda DC-Exit

it's been tried.

Posted by: abraham lincoln at August 24, 2022 06:50 PM (sGtp+)

354 Trump is not the answer.
Posted by: Putin's Moobs at August 24, 2022 06:46 PM (8r+BV)

Oh, goody. Another Trump/Desantis referendum warm up! How incredibly novel!!.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 24, 2022 06:50 PM (wvo9L)

355 This will be challenged again in court.

Posted by: Revenant at August 24, 2022 06:50 PM (1JtC2)

356 Daily Mail-
Harvey Weinstein is granted an APPEAL by court on rape conviction 'after trial judge let witness testify about sex attacks mogul wasn't charged with and juror lied about writing book on sexual predators'

https://tinyurl.com/yca7u92c

Posted by: redridinghood at August 24, 2022 06:50 PM (NpAcC)

357 "How you can get what you want with one simple trick!" SCOTUS literally telegraphed to the law-passing party EXACTLY what it needed to do to get its way in the months it had left.

So your argument is that the supreme court should have let them continue to abuse the law extra long, to stop the Democrats from doing it anyway?

I don't follow this logic.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 24, 2022 06:50 PM (Ivdso)

358 There are guys on YouTube who help you calculate if early Socialist Insecurity is right for you. By getting on the dole early, you can take more government money per month, though you'd always accumulate more if you wait, but this assumes you think you'll live that long.

So, YOLO that federal gibzmedat. We need more people to stop being productive earlier and become a bigger drain on the system sooner than expected.

Use crash the system against its architects and demonstrate the failures of social(ist) welfare programs.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at August 24, 2022 06:50 PM (u8dh3)

359 Not what a jury determined.

Heh.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)

As past and recent trials have shown. If THEY don't like the outcome, one will spend the rest of their life in the "justice" system.

Posted by: Some Rat at August 24, 2022 06:51 PM (r1z5A)

360 Navy Rear Admiral *snort* signs his emails "he/him" in rainbow colored font.

Heh.

https://bit.ly/3ce0MsA

Posted by: bonhomme at August 24, 2022 06:51 PM (kDGvA)

361 340, Moron Robbie

I speak about Trump because he is the reason we are going through all of this. This is the ongoing communist revolution, a reaction to the mere threat of someone doing something for us, that DC cannot fathom.

He had 4 years and should've been smart enough to understand he ONLY had 4 years.

We are being punished for electing a guy who didn't even do anything for us. Might as well have the gravy if we're going to get the grief.

Posted by: Putin's Moobs at August 24, 2022 06:51 PM (8r+BV)

362 355 I sometime think 7 impossible things before breakfast!
Posted by: Queen of Hearts at August 24, 2022 06:41 PM (BRHaw)

Mostly ways they can stick their heads up their asses, to be honest.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

That can only be done contrariwise.
Posted by: Tweedledum at August 24, 2022 06:49 PM (9c5tq)

They can stick their head up their ass in a number of rotations.
They can stick their head up the ass of someone like minded.
They can make a human centipede of heads up asses.
The can...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:52 PM (ynpvh)

363 In 1892 Cleveland ran an "I told you so" campaign and handily won the presidency due to the high cost of imported goods.

This is going to be one of many shit sandwiches we are going to be forced to eat for the next 2.5 years. After that, if sanity regains the presidency, there are plenty of options to roll this back.

Win the Presidency or not, there is no way for those of us who want freedom and prosperity, much less those who believe we have a duty to God to seek it, to live in peace with any of the parasites that support the progressives and their false government.

Posted by: Methos at August 24, 2022 06:52 PM (kOpft)

364 I would respect the BLM stuff a lot more if they gave a crap about actual heroic, good men who were cruelly killed rather than some street scumbag who died in arrest.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 24, 2022 06:49 PM (Ivdso)
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Because he was freaking out in the back of the vehicle, screaming "I can't breathe! I can't breathe!"

He was right, though. The fentanyl was killing him.

Posted by: Axeman at August 24, 2022 06:52 PM (krQz2)

365 362, DeSantis is just as bad. So yeah, no referendum.

Posted by: Putin's Moobs at August 24, 2022 06:52 PM (8r+BV)

366 It's mass transit for you, peon. This is what they want.

So rural folks have to wait for the plumber/electrician to get dropped off by the bus.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 24, 2022 06:52 PM (3hSHB)

367 Don't wrestle with pigs...The pig likes it and you'll just get muddy.

Posted by: Some Rat at August 24, 2022 06:52 PM (r1z5A)

368 Problem for the elite is they don't know how to fix a toilet.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 24, 2022 06:52 PM (5p7BC)

369 Plant life needs Co2. Fucking leftists hate plants.

Not a bit of this makes a fucking bit of sense. None of it.

I am convinced: the world died in 2012. We're in some kind of fucking lost purgatory thing, like that one show I never saw one second of.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at August 24, 2022 06:52 PM (x8Wzq)

370 357 Now I'm going to have to make at least three Saint Fentanyl jokes before bedtime.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2022 06:49 PM (yQpMk)

What kinda person supports St. George?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:53 PM (ynpvh)

371 We are being punished for electing a guy who didn't even do anything for us.

You don't seem to be seeing what is right in front of you. You think this would have been better with Jeb!, or Hillary.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2022 06:53 PM (yQpMk)

372 SMOD, why hast thou abandoned us?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 24, 2022 06:53 PM (daHbk)

373 Assuming it still exists and white males are still eligible, I am taking SS the day I turn 62. I don’t care if long term I would get more money by waiting. Bird in the hand and all that.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 24, 2022 06:53 PM (OalnH)

374 >Moderna documents regarding their Covid vaccine trial on animals, obtained via a Freedom of Information Act request by Judicial Watch, showed that some of the offspring of rats that were injected with Moderna’s mRNA shot developed rib malformations. The documents have not yet been made public,
Posted by: rhennigantx at August 24, 2022 06:49 PM (BRHaw)

"Was that a problem? We didn't know that was a problem."

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at August 24, 2022 06:54 PM (KOooo)

375 I don’t care if long term I would get more money by waiting

No realistic hope the nation and system will be around in the long term to pay off anyway.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 24, 2022 06:54 PM (Ivdso)

376 375 Don't wrestle with pigs...The pig likes it and you'll just get muddy.

Posted by: Some Rat at August 24, 2022 06:52 PM (r1z5A)

Except that ain't mud, friend...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:54 PM (ynpvh)

377 It's a new name stirring up shit...

So I'm not going to waste the brain cells. Seen this play out many times.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 24, 2022 06:55 PM (5p7BC)

378 For Eris

The Holy Grail of Eris

https://tinyurl.com/4j5bwhcm

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 24, 2022 06:55 PM (daHbk)

379 Problem for the elite is they don't know how to fix a toilet.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 24, 2022 06:52 PM (5p7BC)
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And they won't know what to do when they've killed off all the people who can...Good luck with that!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 24, 2022 06:55 PM (K5n5d)

380 nood swatted mtg

Posted by: kulak anachronda at August 24, 2022 06:55 PM (sGtp+)

381 NOOD SWATTED MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:55 PM (ynpvh)

382 What kinda person supports St. George?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:53 PM

Englishmen, by George!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 24, 2022 06:55 PM (RkC6l)

383 381 Assuming it still exists and white males are still eligible, I am taking SS the day I turn 62. I don’t care if long term I would get more money by waiting. Bird in the hand and all that.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 24, 2022 06:53 PM (OalnH)

I think that is wise

look into a spousal benefit, may work for you, if you are spoused

spoused , not soused

Posted by: REDACTED at August 24, 2022 06:55 PM (us2H3)

384 Falling asleep

Posted by: Skip at August 24, 2022 06:56 PM (k8B25)

385 don't know...perhaps an entire nation living like the Amish will have an upside....
Posted by: Some Rat at August 24, 2022 06:45 PM

The Amish have bought all the fallow farms in my hometown. I went on vacation in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, of all places, and Amish have bought old farms there, too.

It makes me wonder why.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at August 24, 2022 06:56 PM (/+bwe)

386 So rural folks have to wait for the plumber/electrician to get dropped off by the bus.

Posted by: Reuben Hick

Why would they need electricians or plumbers? Candles and outhouses are our future.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at August 24, 2022 06:56 PM (9c5tq)

387 379, You're making assumptions. I think nothing would be better under Hillary, Jeb, or Trump.

Trump was neutered by his ego, his naivete, and the administrative state.

The people were behind him. If he had fought for the wall in the spending bill instead of listening to Bitch McConnell, well we'd have at least one accomplishment.

We have to see things as they are, not as we want them to be. For example, everyone forgets that Ronald Reagan is the guy who first gave illegals amnesty and that, more than anything else, is why we have border bunnies. And Trump could've corrected it.

Posted by: Putin's Moobs at August 24, 2022 06:56 PM (8r+BV)

388 My assumption is I will get $0 from SS and have planned accordingly. If By some miracle I do get something, it will be a nice surprise and bonus money.

Planning for SS to be there as a primary source of retirement income is foolish for anyone still in their prime working years.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 24, 2022 06:57 PM (OalnH)

389 And they won't know what to do when they've killed off all the people who can...Good luck with that!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel

What? Executing my best Generals was a bad idea?

Posted by: Stalin at August 24, 2022 06:57 PM (r1z5A)

390 Not what a jury determined.

The jury determined that they didn't want the savages of antifa and blm burning down their neighborhoods again.

Posted by: Methos at August 24, 2022 06:57 PM (kOpft)

391 What kinda person supports St. George?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 24, 2022 06:53 PM (ynpvh)
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To me, it's not a black and white thing. I see some evidence that Floyd was "turning his life around" and had a good job before Covid hit. Which is why I say Fauci and the shutdown crew caused him to lose his job which sent him in a downward spiral.

Trump tried to warn the press that there were other hazards besides Covid. And the press reacted in their usual REEEE-ing, hair-on-fire mode that he wanted to kill everybody with Covid by saying that there were hazards besides Covid.

Posted by: Axeman at August 24, 2022 06:57 PM (krQz2)

392 not sure how much more this country can take

it's gonna fall apart soon and when it does, it will be fast

a lot faster than you can imagine

Posted by: REDACTED at August 24, 2022 06:57 PM (us2H3)

393 Glowies are thick tonight.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 24, 2022 06:57 PM (7FozI)

394
Assuming it still exists and white males are still eligible, I am taking SS the day I turn 62. I don’t care if long term I would get more money by waiting. Bird in the hand and all that.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 24, 2022 06:53 PM

Yeah, calculate what year in the future it will start to hurt you financially by getting less - 2032?. Calculate the odds of the USA being around then anywhere remotely like it was.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 24, 2022 06:58 PM (jE276)

395 Trump was neutered by his ego, his naivete, and the administrative state.

The point being that without Trump all this would have happened sooner. Trump just delayed it. Alas.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2022 06:58 PM (yQpMk)

396 Why would they need electricians or plumbers? Candles and outhouses are our future.
Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth)

"What the F is electricity?" My greatgrand children.

Posted by: Some Rat at August 24, 2022 06:59 PM (r1z5A)

397 Planning for SS to be there as a primary source of retirement income is foolish for anyone still in their prime working years.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 24, 2022 06:57 PM (OalnH)

I agree

I'm 72 and doubt it will be intact in 10 years

Posted by: REDACTED at August 24, 2022 06:59 PM (us2H3)

398 Trump was neutered by his ego, his naivete, and the administrative state.

Posted by: Putin's Moobs at August 24, 2022 06:56 PM (8r+BV)
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And Desantis will never be neutered because

...

he hasn't been shown to be yet....

Posted by: Axeman at August 24, 2022 06:59 PM (krQz2)

399 This is the main reason Manchin needs to switch parties...he's getting played by socialist democrats, so he'll fit right in!

Posted by: bjjfiter at August 24, 2022 07:00 PM (3Czhc)

400 Hillary was supposed to be doing this.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 24, 2022 07:00 PM (7FozI)

401 And Desantis will never be neutered because

I don't think these trolls are even pro-DeSantis. They just want to attack Trump and get people fighting.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 24, 2022 07:01 PM (Ivdso)

402 George woulda never moved to "soft on criminals" MN if he had known what a shithole Houston was gonna turn into

Posted by: REDACTED at August 24, 2022 07:01 PM (us2H3)

403 Liberty Unyielding’s Hans Bader pegs the actual cost of Biden’s $300 billion college loan forgiveness initiative at more than $1 trillion. And that’s just the dollars.

As a result, many borrowers will pay only a trivial amount each month, and can stop paying anything at all after 10 or 20 years, no matter how much of their student loan balance remains. The remaining student loan balance will be written off, at taxpayer expense. That could eventually cost over a trillion dollars. It will also encourage colleges to raise tuition like crazy, because “under income-based repayment, your payments vary with your income, not the size of the loan.”

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 24, 2022 07:02 PM (BRHaw)

404 --------
They will be made to care.

As has happened 100% of the time throughout history.
Posted by: Dave in Fla
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Poetry

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at August 24, 2022 07:03 PM (gi0xn)

405 No realistic hope the nation and system will be around in the long term to pay off anyway.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 24, 2022 06:54 PM (Ivdso)

True. I'm already spending the zoomer's money.

The advise on the spousal retirement is good, if there is a large differential between what each of you made over the years. Mrs928 retired first and when I retired, they added another $700 to her monthly check.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2022 07:04 PM (yQpMk)

406 Gosh, it sounds as if that Grover Cleveland was a real Man of The People.

Wonder what party he was.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at August 24, 2022 07:04 PM (x61Im)

407 401 And Desantis will never be neutered because

I don't think these trolls are even pro-DeSantis. They just want to attack Trump and get people fighting.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 24, 2022 07:01 PM (Ivdso)
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This thread is so full of trolls I had to put my waders on before I signed in.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at August 24, 2022 07:06 PM (gi0xn)

408 Gosh, it sounds as if that Grover Cleveland was a real Man of The People.

Wonder what party he was.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at August 24, 2022 07:04 PM (x61Im)

The one with Jim Crow and the Klan.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 24, 2022 07:06 PM (yQpMk)

409 275
Keep that under your hat. If they hear about it, they'll subsidize the post office until it happens.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at August 24, 2022 06:39 PM (Y8MjH)
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"such as mail being processed before it was even mailed out in the first place."

Wait ... Isn't that what happens with those bundles of postal votes?

Posted by: Ciampino - is this what is meant by 'early voting'? at August 24, 2022 07:42 PM (qfLjt)

410 385 don't know...perhaps an entire nation living like the Amish will have an upside....
Posted by: Some Rat at August 24, 2022 06:45 PM

The Amish have bought all the fallow farms in my hometown. I went on vacation in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, of all places, and Amish have bought old farms there, too.

It makes me wonder why.

Because they have a lot of children amd THEY need farming land

Posted by: Gonzotx at August 24, 2022 08:19 PM (t4poC)

411 The majority in this country are apparently fine with being ruled with an iron fist, so long as they get their cheez whiz and iPhones.

Posted by: Zek at August 24, 2022 09:39 PM (9RLhb)

412 Good we can use it to stop CNN anchors from talking.

Posted by: Shiggz (defective slave) at August 24, 2022 09:41 PM (0SrVS)

413 10 minutes of channel flipping should tell you how dumb majoroty of Americans are, sex murder, lies, and gambling. They are like primitive mammals enslaved by their basest of instincts.

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Posted by: Sarah Moore at August 24, 2022 10:19 PM (B/wtU)

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Posted by: Sarah at August 25, 2022 03:23 AM (rahkI)

417 Ace, and the article's author, are wrong about the SCOTUS case and the new change to EPA law. SCOTUS did *not* rule on whether carbon dioxide is a pollutant or not under the saw... but but the question aside to address the invented scheme to force coal powered plants to subsidize their "green" competitors in wind, solar, etc. via carbon offsets.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 25, 2022 03:42 AM (GtG/j)

418 414 416 I don't believe you.

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