Julie Kelly: How the G-Men Got Their Patsies in the Whitmer Fednapping Case

[U.S. District Judge Robert] repeatedly scolded Gibbons and Blanchard for what he viewed as wasting the jury's time on "crap" lines of questioning. Before the testimony of government witnesses last Wednesday, Jonker took the unprecedented step of limiting the amount of time for cross examination. Blanchard accused Jonker of openly favoring prosecutors while frequently interjecting and interrupting defense counsel. "Limiting us is unfair and it's unconstitutional, and it doesn't aid the jury in the search for the truth," Blanchard told Jonker on August 17 after the jury had been dismissed for the day. "It's creating a perception of how this case ends."
The Justice Department also sought a narrower definition of entrapment, essentially asking Jonker to make it harder for the jury to conclude the defendants were set up by the FBI.
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Joshua Blanchard, Croft's public defender, noted the government collected 1,000 hours of recorded conversations between FBI assets and defendants but played less than two hours of clips for the jury; one clip was only four seconds long. "The FBI doesn't exist, it should not exist, to make people look like terrorists when they aren't," Blanchard said during his closing. "This whole thing has been a big FBI charade. This isn't Russia, this isn't how our country works."

The agents and informers they'd assigned to entrap Croft and Fox had failed, so they brought in "Big Dan" Chappel to create a fake militia and then a fake fednapping plot.

And then arrest people for the feds' own scheme.

Known as "Big Dan" to the government's targets, Chappel gradually stitched the group together and specifically solicited Fox, at the time living in the dilapidated cellar of a vacuum repair shop in a Grand Rapids strip mall. During two days of testimony last week, Chappel admitted he offered Fox a credit card with a $5,000 limit at least four times and suggested Fox could use the card to purchase weaponry to execute the kidnapping scheme. (Fox refused to accept the cards.) Fox and Chappel communicated daily for nearly four months, sometimes several times a day.
The government compensated Chappel roughly $60,000 in cash and reimbursements for personal items including a laptop computer, smart watch, and new tires for his vehicle. In December 2020, two months after the caper ended, the FBI gave Chappel an envelope containing $23,540. Blanchard accused the FBI of allowing Chappel to violate FBI rules by advancing the alleged conspiracy and taking an oath as the commanding officer in an FBI-created militia.
Five FBI informants were tasked with surveilling Croft, who has been on the FBI's radar since 2019 for "anti-government" comments on social media. During an event in Wisconsin, Jenny Plunk, the primary FBI informant assigned to Croft, shared a hotel room with her target. When the group began to splinter in late summer amid concerns over Croft's wild talk, Plunk's FBI handler urged her to remind the others of Croft's value. "Show them they were brought together by Croft and he has good ideas. Keep working to solve the differences in the group," FBI special agent Christopher Long texted Plunk on August 10, 2020. For her services, Plunk was paid at least $8,000.

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1 First!

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 26, 2022 02:10 PM (b2nrj)

2 Obviously, the people of Michigan haven't gotten the message about going against the FBI in every trial where they present evidence.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 02:11 PM (LvTSG)

3 Warning: If you click the link your screen will be filled with Gretchen Whitmer's face.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 26, 2022 02:12 PM (xPl2J)

4 Abolish The FBI.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 26, 2022 02:12 PM (R/m4+)

5 The judge was appointed by W.

The longer Bush is out of office, the more rancid he becomes.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 26, 2022 02:12 PM (I2/tG)

6 The desperadoes mug shots were - unfortunate.

Posted by: kraken at August 26, 2022 02:12 PM (Vr12I)

7 LOL, I read “patsies” as “pasties.”

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2022 02:13 PM (cfHgC)

8 Show me the guy and I'll show you the crime.

Or, alternatively, tell me your political goal and I'll stich together a crime that makes the point.

Posted by: Special Agent Lavrenty Beria at August 26, 2022 02:13 PM (evB4g)

9 The government compensated Chappel roughly $60,000 in cash and reimbursements for personal items including a laptop computer, smart watch, and new tires for his vehicle. In December 2020, two months after the caper ended, the FBI gave Chappel an envelope containing $23,540. Blanchard accused the FBI of allowing Chappel to violate FBI rules by advancing the alleged conspiracy and taking an oath as the commanding officer in an FBI-created militia.

Entrapment.
Jury nullification - Not Guilty on all counts.

Posted by: rickb223 Cruel ace is the best ace at August 26, 2022 02:13 PM (nyNes)

10 Your FBI
It's a Hell of a Way to run a Railroad.

Posted by: rd at August 26, 2022 02:13 PM (Z32m1)

11 Warning: If you click the link your screen will be filled with Gretchen Whitmer's face.

And your little dog, too!

Posted by: Witch Gretchen! at August 26, 2022 02:14 PM (I2/tG)

12 7 LOL, I read “patsies” as “pasties.”
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2022 02:13 PM (cfHgC)

Heh, same here. Guess I need to get frisky with the wife. Sheesh!

Posted by: kraken at August 26, 2022 02:14 PM (Vr12I)

13 Warning: If you click the link your screen will be filled with Gretchen Whitmer's face.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 26, 2022 02:12 PM (xPl2J)

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I thought that was Caitlyn Jenner.

Posted by: ShainS -- VDH-Endorsed-by-Proxy Connoisseur of Cruelty at August 26, 2022 02:14 PM (bQ4So)

14 We live in a 3rd country. Most people just don’t know it yet, but once the dollar goes tits up? They’re gonna find out real fucking fast.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 26, 2022 02:14 PM (Ix++l)

15 Jury nullification - Not Guilty on all counts.

*

This is the way forward.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Norway only has EVs because the government has guns at August 26, 2022 02:14 PM (oxVgP)

16 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 26, 2022 02:14 PM (Zz0t1)

17 Federal Bureau of Instigation.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 26, 2022 02:14 PM (mZ3xv)

18 $68,000 in direct payments to agents provocateurs and probably several hundred thousand dollars' worth of Bureau resources to spend *months* ginning up a high-pressure false flag incident during an election year, plus an additional many hundreds of thousands more to prosecute a case that should never have existed. More money than the typical person will ever have and vast quantities of time all for the purpose of entrapping a bunch of patsies to forcibly fulfill a political narrative that never actually existed in order to provide an assist to the Deep State and Party during an election year.

What. A. Country.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2022 02:14 PM (WWh8n)

19 I suddenly have a craving for some ham and aigs.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 26, 2022 02:14 PM (Zz0t1)

20 The left claims the violence of the 60s/70s by leftist groups was ALL COINTELPRO type activities.

Now that they have the power they've decided to use the imaginary tactics they decried in the past against their current opponents.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2022 02:15 PM (ESjRY)

21 The longer Bush is out of office, the more rancid he becomes.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

And, oddly, the better Jimmy looks by comparison.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 26, 2022 02:15 PM (KAi1n)

22
Fecklessness. Betrayal. Insurrection.

Posted by: ShainS -- VDH-Endorsed-by-Proxy Connoisseur of Cruelty at August 26, 2022 02:15 PM (bQ4So)

23 Before the testimony of government witnesses last Wednesday, Jonker took the unprecedented step of limiting the amount of time for [defense] cross examination.

Can't believe that that will hold up on appeal.

OTOH, "the process is the punishment".

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 26, 2022 02:15 PM (I2/tG)

24 I'm not sure it's fair to say they were "framed." When someone is framed, they DIDN'T DO IT but things are set up to make it look like they did. Didn't these guys basically admit they did what they are accused of, but that they were entrapped? I thought entrapment was basically their entire defense. Entrapment is something different than being framed. I do think these guys were staggering idiots who were bamboozled by the feds and they never would have done this on their own. They may have been dragged kicking and screaming into the scheme, but that's not being framed. That's entrapment.

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 26, 2022 02:15 PM (iFTx/)

25 16 FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 26, 2022 02:14 PM (Zz0t1)

" Whoever would be FIRST!!!" must be last.
- Stuff Jesus Said

Posted by: kraken at August 26, 2022 02:15 PM (Vr12I)

26 But the fbi is afraid to affect the outcome of an election by investigating Hunters laptop

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 26, 2022 02:16 PM (j7Bnb)

27 There was a time that I'd say something like "an obvious and gross miscarriage of justice like this will be dealt with during appeals" but that time is long since over.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2022 02:16 PM (WWh8n)

28
" Whoever would be FIRST!!!" must be last.
- Stuff Jesus Said
Posted by: kraken at August 26, 2022 02:15 PM (Vr12I)

That explains the First and Last beer store in Denton, TX.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 26, 2022 02:16 PM (Zz0t1)

29 LOL, I read “patsies” as “pasties.”
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2022 02:13 PM (cfHgC)

Heh, me too.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 26, 2022 02:16 PM (DRSnL)

30 Most of the FBI is honest.

Well, a few are anyway.

Maybe one or two guys are honest.

Not in Detroit though, obviously. Somewhere else.

Posted by: Sean Hannity, again at August 26, 2022 02:16 PM (E89Mr)

31 I assume we are all surveilled. We certainly are getting our share of glowers.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 02:17 PM (yQpMk)

32 This is so obviously entrapment. The judge limiting questioning of criminal LE involved seals the deal. I can't see how this doesn't get reversed on appeal.

Posted by: Eddie Baby at August 26, 2022 02:17 PM (wpJDK)

33 LOL, I read “patsies” as “pasties.”
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2022 02:13 PM (cfHgC)

Heh, me too.
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 26, 2022 02:16 PM (DRSnL)

Mee Three.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 26, 2022 02:17 PM (Zz0t1)

34 LOL, I read “patsies” as “pasties.”
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2022 02:13 PM (cfHgC)

Ha! #MeToo

Posted by: InZona (formerly InCali) at August 26, 2022 02:17 PM (ep37o)

35 I used to object when people described me as "anti-government." I think I'll stop doing that.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 26, 2022 02:18 PM (sWM8x)

36 Warning: If you click the link your screen will be filled with Gretchen Whitmer's face.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 26, 2022 02:12 PM (xPl2J)

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It was very kind of you to give that warning.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at August 26, 2022 02:18 PM (TNyrE)

37 The FBI can win its case, as long as the defense is prevented from presenting their case in whole.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 26, 2022 02:18 PM (lTGtQ)

38 Posted by: Elric Blade at August 26, 2022 02:15 PM (iFTx/)
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no, they tried repeatedly to back out. But the fiibies desperately kept talking them back into the "crime"

Posted by: Sean Hannity, again at August 26, 2022 02:18 PM (E89Mr)

39 Pasties >>>>> Patsies

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 26, 2022 02:18 PM (iFTx/)

40 31 I assume we are all surveilled. We certainly are getting our share of glowers.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 02:17 PM (yQpMk)

I am safe. All my comments are innoccuous. And inane. Mostly.

Posted by: kraken at August 26, 2022 02:18 PM (Vr12I)

41 Those rank and file FBI guys are great. Maybe, just maybe 1 or 2 bad guys in mid management. Believe the FIB.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 26, 2022 02:18 PM (u4CEu)

42 The ninety-nine percent of crooked FBI agents give the rest a bad name.

Posted by: Eddie Baby at August 26, 2022 02:18 PM (wpJDK)

43 I read pasties, too.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 26, 2022 02:19 PM (7FozI)

44 I admit to making anti-FBI statements.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 02:19 PM (yQpMk)

45 38 Posted by: Elric Blade at August 26, 2022 02:15 PM (iFTx/)
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no, they tried repeatedly to back out. But the fiibies desperately kept talking them back into the "crime"
Posted by: Sean Hannity, again at August 26, 2022 02:18 PM (E89Mr)

________________________

That's entrapment. That's not being framed.

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 26, 2022 02:19 PM (iFTx/)

46 Don't disband the FBI.

Do you want these 35,000 corrupt Stasi contaminating every other local, state and federal law enforcement agency?

Keep the FBI together as an organization, but send them all far from Washington DC and give them jobs like finding missing Native American women and children.

Posted by: rd at August 26, 2022 02:19 PM (Z32m1)

47 The Fibs were after Pasties. That - explains So Much.

Posted by: kraken at August 26, 2022 02:19 PM (Vr12I)

48 If a crime would not have happened apart from FIB entrapment how is that not,, I'm at a loss for what do you call them?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 26, 2022 02:20 PM (VdGjU)

49 I don’t know who’s uglier, Stretchin’ Gretchen or Ho’chul.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2022 02:20 PM (cfHgC)

50 Ha! #MeToo

Posted by: InZona (formerly InCali) at August 26, 2022 02:17 PM (ep37o)

You chappies will really be surprised when you get your pasties, wot?

Posted by: Brit at August 26, 2022 02:20 PM (7bRMQ)

51 99% of the FBI give the rest a bad name.... same for the DOJ.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 26, 2022 02:20 PM (u4CEu)

52 Keep the FBI together as an organization, but send them all far from Washington DC and give them jobs like finding missing Native American women and children.
Posted by: rd at August 26, 2022 02:19 PM (Z32m1)

They are surely needed to combat international child trafficking in South Sudan.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 02:20 PM (yQpMk)

53 The Governor Whitmer is a fine looking woman.

I bet her dangly blessings of liberty are nice and plumb too.

Posted by: David French at August 26, 2022 02:20 PM (ESjRY)

54 12 7 LOL, I read “patsies” as “pasties.”
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2022 02:13 PM (cfHgC)

Heh, same here. Guess I need to get frisky with the wife. Sheesh!
Posted by: kraken at August 26, 2022 02:14 PM (Vr12I)

"Unleash the Kraken!" Hiiyo!

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 26, 2022 02:20 PM (dxWhA)

55 31 I assume we are all surveilled.
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Well in that case, WHITEY BULGER DIDN'T KILL HIMSELF.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 26, 2022 02:20 PM (sWM8x)

56 Wow. I hope this gets overturned stat.

Posted by: LASue at August 26, 2022 02:21 PM (Ed8Zd)

57 Are all the Morons who read "pasties" also the ones who hate cilantro?

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 26, 2022 02:21 PM (DRSnL)

58 man oh, man

I can't wait for sumptin to happen !!

I swear I'm gonna wet my undies

Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2022 02:21 PM (us2H3)

59 The Fibs were after Pasties. That - explains So Much.

Posted by: kraken at August 26, 2022 02:19 PM (Vr12I)

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Pasties are quite popular and prevalent in Michigan, too.

Wait, are we talking about the same thing?

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at August 26, 2022 02:21 PM (TNyrE)

60 Julie Kelly: How the G-Men Got Their Patsies in the Whitmer Fednapping Case.

Its simple. Its obvious. The FBI, all Federal Cases really, pick not only the Judge, but also the Jury.

It does not take four paragraphs to explain. Wasting four paragraphs is the typical "but the system works" bullshit.

The system is rigged. It was rigged when the Mob complained about it. It was rigged when poor black men complained about it. Its rigged now.

Posted by: Klon Pedal at August 26, 2022 02:21 PM (SJIH3)

61 We're all being watched, right Bob?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 26, 2022 02:21 PM (7FozI)

62 Patsies and a G-man

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Norway only has EVs because the government has guns at August 26, 2022 02:21 PM (oxVgP)

63 "This isn't Russia, this isn't how our country works."
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On the contrary, this is exactly how things work in "our democracy", the United States of Banana.

Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2022 02:22 PM (krQz2)

64 No, I read “pasties” and I love cilantro.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2022 02:22 PM (cfHgC)

65 And, oddly, the better Jimmy looks by comparison.
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Jimmy is a Leprechaun. He has a pot of gold buried somewhere.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 26, 2022 02:22 PM (HTCOy)

66 57 Are all the Morons who read "pasties" also the ones who hate cilantro?
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 26, 2022 02:21 PM (DRSnL)

To eveything there is a seasoning.

Posted by: kraken at August 26, 2022 02:22 PM (Vr12I)

67 The Ham and Eggers are too busy sucking ass trying to get promotions, raises, whores and benefits to worry about some little old thing called The Law.

They are the pus that oozes from the boil named Chris Wray.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 26, 2022 02:22 PM (R/m4+)

68 I swear I'm gonna wet my undies

Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2022 02:21 PM (us2H3)

I give you fifty dollars!

Posted by: Japanese Fetishist at August 26, 2022 02:22 PM (7bRMQ)

69 WHITEY BULGER DIDN'T KILL HIMSELF.

I like how they let the FNM leak that Bulger was assassinated by conspiracy with advanced knowledge of where he was being sent that ONLY the government could have known.

And...that's it.

No arrests. No investigation as to who and why.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2022 02:22 PM (ESjRY)

70 Since our entire federal government is corrupt, nothing they do really surprises me anymore.

What shocks me is citizens trying to find ways to believe them honest, or cutting them slack in hopes Horowitz or Durham will somehow rectify the criminal actions of the DOJ leadership.

The rot goes all the way down.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 26, 2022 02:23 PM (jziOz)

71 >>Are all the Morons who read "pasties" also the ones who hate cilantro?

I like cilantro.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 26, 2022 02:23 PM (ZLI7S)

72 KAR-MELLAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

IT'S FRIDAY!!!!!!

Posted by: WILLIE BROWN at August 26, 2022 02:23 PM (z9V4B)

73 read “patsies” as “pasties.”
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

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Same here

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 26, 2022 02:23 PM (tQL7r)

74 I give you fifty dollars!
Posted by: Japanese Fetishist at August 26, 2022 02:22 PM (7bRMQ)

you pay now

Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2022 02:23 PM (us2H3)

75 68 I swear I'm gonna wet my undies

Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2022 02:21 PM (us2H3)

I give you fifty dollars!
Posted by: Japanese Fetishist at August 26, 2022 02:22 PM (7bRMQ)

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"Is this an in-thing now? I guess it is. I will also offer you money for your dirty underwear!"
-Jonah Goldberg

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 02:23 PM (LvTSG)

76 Unpopular opinion but…..during the War on Terror I wonder how many home grown terrorists were goaded and supplied by the Eff Bee Eye? I’m guessing more than we’d like to admit.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 26, 2022 02:23 PM (Ix++l)

77 "This whole thing has been a big FBI charade. This isn't Russia, this isn't how our country works."
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The first sentence is true. The second sentence is not.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2022 02:24 PM (WWh8n)

78 Five FBI informants were tasked with surveilling Croft, who has been on the FBI's radar since 2019 for "anti-government" comments on social media.

What kind of comments? Suck my c*ck glowie? Go f*ck yourself hard with a chainsaw, FIB?

Just curious.

Posted by: inflammable at August 26, 2022 02:24 PM (g1EEm)

79 They were found guilty by a jury of their peers.

Case closed!

A cynic may wonder what pressures were brought to bear on the judge or how many on the jury were paid or visited by the fib.
Not me. I believe in the system

Posted by: Buddy at August 26, 2022 02:24 PM (FCbAQ)

80 71 >>Are all the Morons who read "pasties" also the ones who hate cilantro?

I like cilantro.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 26, 2022 02:23 PM (ZLI7S)

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JackStraw confirmed for soap eater.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 02:24 PM (LvTSG)

81 Keep the FBI together as an organization, but send them all far from Washington DC and give them jobs like finding missing Native American women and children.
Posted by: rd at August 26, 2022 02:19 PM (Z32m1)

For all know, the FIBs are the ones talking these girls.

No, the agents need to be in a super max prison.

Posted by: Beartooth at August 26, 2022 02:24 PM (RI8jR)

82 We're all being watched, right Bob?

Well, TBH I do like you guys and all, but I'm trying to get transferred to watching the Wii fit girl. I may have manufactured some evidence that she's a terrible white supremacist terrorist but...as long as her ass looks like that she's not going to jail.

Posted by: Bob from the NSA at August 26, 2022 02:24 PM (ESjRY)

83 The FIB is just making their supply of dupes scarcer.

Who is not going to cut out when you're in a "revolutionary scheme" and somebody keeps trying to push funding toward you.

So the FIB will just have to try harder to frame their dupes.

Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2022 02:24 PM (krQz2)

84 This entrapment tactic is as old as time itself, used by tyrants, kings and chieftains across the globe

Posted by: kallisto at August 26, 2022 02:24 PM (dCxaZ)

85 Germans may soon face a serious toilet paper shortage, the chairman of the country’s paper industry association has warned. His remarks come in the wake of the impending energy crisis that Germany is set to face.

The potential shortage of toilet paper risks creating a new toilet paper run, which is a repeat of the start of the pandemic, when people were panicking while buying toilet paper.

“We are particularly dependent on gas for the production of tissue paper. Without it, we will no longer be able to provide security of supply,” said Die Papierindustrie Chief Martin Krengel in a statement released to the German press.

Winter is coming.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 26, 2022 02:24 PM (I2/tG)

86 57 Are all the Morons who read "pasties" also the ones who hate cilantro?
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 26, 2022 02:21 PM (DRSnL)

^^I read "pasties" and I like cilantro, so no.

I think I was conflating this FBI set-up with the Mar-a-Lago raid in Melania's intimates drawer...

Posted by: Iris at August 26, 2022 02:24 PM (foa6+)

87 Paying someone to create a plot isn't entrapment?

And, darn right, average citizen is going to listen to a "suggestion" by the FBI continue to keep the "plot" alive, because I'm sure average citizen got more than just a bit of the steel hand in velvet glove treatment.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 26, 2022 02:24 PM (5pTK/)

88 This isn't Russia, this isn't how our country works

I am altering the deal. Pray I do not alter it further.

Posted by: Darth Deepstate at August 26, 2022 02:24 PM (Ii0B5)

89 Listen, when a guy tries to goad you into illegal schemes...it's best to call the local cops on him.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 02:25 PM (LvTSG)

90 You folks who read pasties see those Cornish meat filled pastries or those things that cover nipples?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 26, 2022 02:25 PM (VdGjU)

91
LOL, I read “patsies” as “pasties.”
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2022 02:13 PM (cfHgC)
Heh, me too.
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 26, 2022 02:16 PM (DRSnL)
Mee Three.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

PERVERTS OF THE WORLD UNITE!

....yeah, me too.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 26, 2022 02:25 PM (n+4am)

92 I swear I'm gonna wet my undies

Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2022 02:21 PM (us2H3)

I give you fifty dollars!
Posted by: Japanese Fetishist at August 26, 2022 02:22 PM (7bRMQ)

50 Euroes if you crap yourself as well!

Posted by: Your Average German at August 26, 2022 02:25 PM (ESjRY)

93 JackStraw confirmed for soap eater.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 02:24 PM (LvTSG)

#MeToo

Posted by: kallisto at August 26, 2022 02:25 PM (dCxaZ)

94 Two people can keep a secret, if one of them is dead.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 02:25 PM (yQpMk)

95 I must be the odd one. I read it first as "panties" and had to reread.

Posted by: washrivergal at August 26, 2022 02:25 PM (IW8z9)

96
"Is this an in-thing now? I guess it is. I will also offer you money for your dirty underwear!"
-Jonah Goldberg

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 02:23 PM (LvTSG)

This thread just skidded to a stop.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 26, 2022 02:25 PM (7bRMQ)

97 Yeah, I think a pasty is also some kind of food that’s big among the Yoopers, especially the Finnish ones.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2022 02:26 PM (cfHgC)

98 90 You folks who read pasties see those Cornish meat filled pastries or those things that cover nipples?
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 26, 2022 02:25 PM (VdGjU)

I see the nipples.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 26, 2022 02:26 PM (UuD2k)

99 I keep forgetting to take the sock off

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 26, 2022 02:26 PM (g1EEm)

100 Hey peasants, you are looking at the guy that got to sniff Melania's panties.

And I've still got three pairs because they are top secret.

HAHAHA I kill me!

Posted by: Some Ham and Egger at August 26, 2022 02:26 PM (ESjRY)

101 CBS features three FBI shows a week. CBS is owned by AT&T. Yeah, I bet that buys a lot of goodwill from the Feds.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 26, 2022 02:27 PM (HTCOy)

102 On the one hand...pistachio shells that are empty are a lie and an affront to my sense of justice.

On the other hand...it is a promise of an effort free pistachio deeper in the bowl.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 02:27 PM (LvTSG)

103 Unpopular opinion but…..during the War on Terror I wonder how many home grown terrorists were goaded and supplied by the Eff Bee Eye? I’m guessing more than we’d like to admit.
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Cleveland Bridge Terrorists. Total idiots. Couldn't manage their own lives, let alone a complex plot to blow up a major interstate bridge. FBI stitched em up. Provided the idea, the logistics and the fake bombs / detonator. Put it in one idiots hand and he pushed the button. So he did it. But he didn't. And he never would have if they hadn't organized and motivated the whole thing. They find drugged out tard and drag them along until the final step. Call them pussies if they don't push the button.

Posted by: Every time its a stitch up at August 26, 2022 02:27 PM (Tn7SE)

104 I read pasties, too.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 26, 2022 02:19 PM (7FozI)

Pretty much a given here.

Posted by: Pug Mahon,(x8Wzq) at August 26, 2022 02:27 PM (x8Wzq)

105 90 You folks who read pasties see those Cornish meat filled pastries or those things that cover nipples?
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 26, 2022 02:25 PM (VdGjU)

The tasselly ones on the lady parts.

Posted by: kraken at August 26, 2022 02:27 PM (Vr12I)

106 Pasties >>>>> Patsies
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 26, 2022 02:18 PM (iFTx/)

Cornish?

Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsXQ) at August 26, 2022 02:28 PM (WhsXQ)

107 The FIB gets their patsies, and Ghislaine Maxwell still trafficked girls to no one special.

"Law Enforcement" is wearing a little thin as a description.

So, I won't accept a classification of them as LEOs, but SOs: Strategic Operators.

Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2022 02:28 PM (krQz2)

108 pastries > pasties > patsies

Posted by: She Hobbit at August 26, 2022 02:28 PM (ftFVW)

109 Funny Biden video. Only 1 minute and 15 seconds but it made me laugh.

https://youtu.be/xWheIZcJRQc

Posted by: Ghost of Patton at August 26, 2022 02:28 PM (hlMOJ)

110 FIB is SO!

Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2022 02:28 PM (krQz2)

111 I've seen a few pictures of these gullible fools, they don't look like the sharpest bayonets in the sheath.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 26, 2022 02:28 PM (m7R0k)

112 Correction, I guess their Cornish, not Finnish.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2022 02:28 PM (cfHgC)

113 Wasn't one of the "perps" in this plot nicknamed Capt. Autism or something?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 26, 2022 02:28 PM (UuD2k)

114 The reason many of us are so well armed and maintain such competence with arms...

.. is we really, really don't want no hassle, no conflict, no intrusion, no trouble. We just insist on possessing the means to empower our will and choice in such matters, against those who *would* bring hassle, conflict, intrusion and trouble.

Sadly, those who *would*, nowadays have about equal odds as to be carrying a badge, as compared to 30 years ago, when we mainly only worried about the typical prison-experienced violent thug street criminal.

"Badge". Not a Bad Guy. Not a Good Guy. "Badge" though does buy about the first 5 short minutes of time to try to sort out the Good or Bad equation, before I hit the "Lawyer" button on my fone.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 26, 2022 02:28 PM (tkOps)

115 There's an ad showing for me on this page, asking my opinion of the FBI raid on Mar-A-Lago. The ad shows a photo of Trump which has been altered to make him look 20 years older and like he's been living under a bridge.

Weird.

Posted by: Emmie at August 26, 2022 02:28 PM (6RgRK)

116 Free the nipple!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 26, 2022 02:29 PM (mZ3xv)

117 Are all the Morons who read "pasties" also the ones who hate cilantro?
Posted by: Jordan61

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Not me. I love cilantro.

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 26, 2022 02:29 PM (tQL7r)

118 102 On the one hand...pistachio shells that are empty are a lie and an affront to my sense of justice.

On the other hand...it is a promise of an effort free pistachio deeper in the bowl.
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Snort.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 26, 2022 02:29 PM (HTCOy)

119 Amazing how passive Americans are.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at August 26, 2022 02:29 PM (xo7ej)

120 This will teach the rif-raf to stay away from extremist activities like anti-mask and lockdown rallies.

Posted by: Ripley at August 26, 2022 02:29 PM (MxEKc)

121 This is a Fun Friday thread!!

Posted by: kraken at August 26, 2022 02:29 PM (Vr12I)

122 CBS features three FBI shows a week. CBS is owned by AT&T. Yeah, I bet that buys a lot of goodwill from the Feds.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 26, 2022 02:27 PM (HTCOy)

Really? Wow....people are stoopid. Why do folks like watching cop tv shows is beyond me. Same goes for hospital shows. Pure Drek.

I had enough of cop shows after "Kojack".

Who loves ya baby!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 26, 2022 02:29 PM (R/m4+)

123 Every FBI search warrant grants them the right to shoot your dog.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 26, 2022 02:29 PM (KD5bY)

124 "Is this an in-thing now? I guess it is. I will also offer you money for your dirty underwear!"
-Jonah Goldberg

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 02:23 PM (LvTSG)

This thread just skidded to a stop.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 26, 2022 02:25 PM (7bRMQ)
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Watch Jonah Goldberg in Shartnado!

Posted by: ShainS -- VDH-Endorsed-by-Proxy Connoisseur of Cruelty at August 26, 2022 02:29 PM (1ngKI)

125 I also read it as pasties. But if the word had actually been pasties, my mind would've never read it as patsies. It only goes one way.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 26, 2022 02:29 PM (xPl2J)

126 pastries > pasties > patsies
Posted by: She Hobbit at August 26, 2022 02:28 PM (ftFVW)
*****
I read Panties.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 26, 2022 02:29 PM (NpAcC)

127 They may have been dragged kicking and screaming into the scheme, but that's not being framed. That's entrapment.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 26, 2022 02:15 PM (iFTx/)

Here's some specifics on a part of the entrapment - the Government accused them of having an explosive device near Whitmore's home (a pipe bomb or something) How that came about - the FBI built the explosive device. The FBI gave the explosive device to these men. The FBI told these men to take it to a certain spot, and at that spot, the FBI had other men waiting to arrest them for having the FBI's explosive device on them.

Now that's pretty standard procedure for banana republicans and totalitarian regimes, but not the kind of thing we are supposed to allow here.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 26, 2022 02:29 PM (trdmm)

128 The bell curve: there are brilliant men at one end and utter, fucking morons (bad kind) at the other.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 26, 2022 02:29 PM (KAi1n)

129 Let me see, down on luck schmoe, not to bright, life is tough, guy shows up waving cash and talks about kidnapping gov Whitmer. You're hungry, maybe tired, and, well, just need a break, so, you go along, because, well, regular meals have been hard to come by and cannot afford to get rid of your meal ticket.

And I'll wager I'm not that far off.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 26, 2022 02:29 PM (5pTK/)

130 pastries > pasties > patsies

Posted by: She Hobbit at August 26, 2022 02:28 PM (ftFVW)

discarded pasties > pastries > pasties > patsies

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 26, 2022 02:29 PM (yHsuS)

131 The pair who stole Ashley Biden's raggedy-ass diary got five years in federal prison. Five years.

The federal government hasn't just stopped pretending that the law is no longer operative, they won't miss any opportunity to demonstrate it to us in no uncertain terms.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 26, 2022 02:29 PM (sWM8x)

132 I think y'all have seen seen the last of Big Dan.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 26, 2022 02:30 PM (es0Dj)

133 And to the banana republic for which it stands....

Posted by: ... at August 26, 2022 02:30 PM (e+yf1)

134 during the War on Terror I wonder how many home grown terrorists were goaded and supplied by the Eff Bee Eye?

Soon after 9/11, there was a Somali guy in Portland who is in prison now for attempted mass murder by car bombing the downtown Portland Christmas tree lighting ceremony.

The FBI suggested the car bombing to him, supplied him with "the bomb" (which wasn't real), and drove him to the location where he was supposed to park the car to detonate the bomb.

I must confess that I have a lot more sympathy for him now than I used to.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 26, 2022 02:30 PM (I2/tG)

135 Don't disband the FBI.

A Modest Proposal.

Federal Agencies only have authority in Federal Jurisdictions. Everywhere else, they only have the same authority as a citizen. Investigate all they want, but only as far as a citizen can. When it comes to making searches and arrests, they must go before a county, parish or state judge and be accompanied of sheriff or state police.

No weapons. If they are discovered to be with weapons and they use them outside the limits of what a citizen can do, then they are prosecuted and treated as such. Kicking down doors and waving them into crowds gets the same sort of response that a perp doing the same thing in a Walmart. Instant, and possibly fatal citizen response.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 26, 2022 02:30 PM (3hSHB)

136 That's twice this week the FBI should feel ashamed. Oh well, off to run my five miles.

Posted by: Chuck Grassley at August 26, 2022 02:30 PM (qH6FZ)

137 Some strip clubs require pasties and that you BYOB.

That's how you know it's classy.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 26, 2022 02:30 PM (mZ3xv)

138
Gretchen Whitmer is the Jussie Smollet of governors

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 26, 2022 02:30 PM (ENBF0)

139 They were found guilty by a jury of their peers.

Case closed!

A cynic may wonder what pressures were brought to bear on the judge or how many on the jury were paid or visited by the fib.
Not me. I believe in the system
Posted by: Buddy at August 26, 2022 02:24 PM (FCbAQ)

We know when the judge gets nominated for a higher court it is due to the great and honest job the judge is doing.

Posted by: WiNO at August 26, 2022 02:30 PM (EpDzw)

140 If I don't cut on the FBI do I get banned? But anyway, I went to Marina Abramovics' Sooper-Show in Belgrade, where she got paid a PILE of money for a 'retrospective'.
Swear to God, I'm used to some Pagan shit in the Balkans, but I've never experienced anything like that in real life in any other place, there is always some Christianity, that show was CRAZY.
I walked out, lit a Drina, said, 'Well, THAT was some Pagan shit," and went to a dive bar to have rakija.
At least all the dive bars have Ikons and I could get right. That bitch is crazy as a shithouse rat, and she got funded like you wouldn't believe.

Posted by: LenNeal at August 26, 2022 02:30 PM (U11/V)

141 I like The Who. I'd honestly consider them one of the top 5 rock bands....maybe top 3.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 26, 2022 02:31 PM (xcxpd)

142 How DO they stick those Pasties on?

Posted by: kraken at August 26, 2022 02:31 PM (Vr12I)

143 Unpopular opinion but…..during the War on Terror I wonder how many home grown terrorists were goaded and supplied by the Eff Bee Eye? I’m guessing more than we’d like to admit.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One

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Most likely all of them

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 26, 2022 02:31 PM (tQL7r)

144 141 I like The Who. I'd honestly consider them one of the top 5 rock bands....maybe top 3.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 26, 2022 02:31 PM (xcxpd)

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Who?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 02:31 PM (LvTSG)

145 discarded pasties > pastries > pasties > patsies
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 26, 2022 02:29 PM (yHsuS)

Prolly depends on whose discarded pasties they are. Just saying.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 26, 2022 02:31 PM (DRSnL)

146 Obviously, the people of Michigan haven't gotten the message about going against the FBI in every trial where they present evidence.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 02:11 PM (LvTSG)
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How many of them convicted out of fear that if they didn't, they'd be next on the FBI's list?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 26, 2022 02:31 PM (YIVH2)

147 Let me see, down on luck schmoe, not to bright, life is tough, guy shows up waving cash and talks about kidnapping gov Whitmer. You're hungry, maybe tired, and, well, just need a break, so, you go along, because, well, regular meals have been hard to come by and cannot afford to get rid of your meal ticket.

And I'll wager I'm not that far off.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 26, 2022 02:29 PM (5pTK/)

Pro tip: Someone gives you a CC with a decent limit, don't spend it on anything that the person suggests.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 26, 2022 02:31 PM (yHsuS)

148 I think I just typed the most grammatically screwed up sentence of my life.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 26, 2022 02:31 PM (sWM8x)

149 131 The pair who stole Ashley Biden's raggedy-ass diary got five years in federal prison. Five years.

***

How is it stealing ? I thought she lost it and they found it?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 26, 2022 02:31 PM (WqMvZ)

150 When you ban the defense from disputing any of the Government's testimony, it's pretty easy to get a conviction. Almost guaranteed, I would say.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 26, 2022 02:32 PM (trdmm)

151 @21

>>And, oddly, the better Jimmy looks by comparison.

It wasn't all buffoonery, the dude did give away a perfectly good canal.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 26, 2022 02:32 PM (up/3i)

152 The pair who stole Ashley Biden's raggedy-ass diary got five years in federal prison. Five years.

Does keeping a book from the public library get the same sort of zealous prosecution?

If not, why not?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 26, 2022 02:32 PM (3hSHB)

153 Let's say I have a friend who carries. Some glowie sits down next to my friend in a bar, and starts going all conspiracy theory on him. Offers him money to buy material for a bomb.

My friend, being a fine upstanding citizen, initiates a citizen's arrest. Glowie resists. Glowie tries to grab my friend's weapon. Glowie gets shot in the head.

What's my friend's legal status here?

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 26, 2022 02:32 PM (nw4Vb)

154 discarded pasties > pastries > pasties > patsies
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 26, 2022 02:29 PM (yHsuS)

Prolly depends on whose discarded pasties they are. Just saying.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 26, 2022 02:31 PM (DRSnL)

Men: We'll be the judge of that.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 26, 2022 02:32 PM (yHsuS)

155 137 Some strip clubs require pasties and that you BYOB.

That's how you know it's classy.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 26, 2022 02:30 PM (mZ3xv)

I went to an all nude one in Florida once. No alcohol at all and it was on Industrial Road, next to the cement plant.

I do not recommend it.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 26, 2022 02:32 PM (UuD2k)

156 Hi Jak, How are you?

Posted by: Ben Had at August 26, 2022 02:32 PM (UBRkj)

157 The pair who stole Ashley Biden's raggedy-ass diary got five years in federal prison. Five years.

Except they didn't steal it.

Ashley left it in someone else's house where the woman who found it moved in.

Remember when the prosecutor in the Alex Jones case was emailed Jones's text messages? Did he "steal" them?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2022 02:32 PM (ESjRY)

158 145

Prolly depends on whose discarded pasties they are. Just saying.
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 26, 2022 02:31 PM (DRSnL)

Yep. Consider - Stacy Abrams.

Posted by: kraken at August 26, 2022 02:32 PM (Vr12I)

159 They were found guilty by a jury of their peers.

Case closed!

A cynic may wonder what pressures were brought to bear on the judge or how many on the jury were paid or visited by the fib.
Not me. I believe in the system
Posted by: Buddy at August 26, 2022 02:24 PM (FCbAQ)
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You are way to young to be that sarcastic.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 26, 2022 02:32 PM (5pTK/)

160
I was just reading, some key German electric power price futures hit the equivalent of 70 cents per kW-hr.

Europe is fucked this winter. Seen projections that the total energy costs for the average consumer of around $2200 per month for the winter.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 26, 2022 02:32 PM (Mzdiz)

161 How is it stealing ? I thought she lost it and they found it?
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 26, 2022 02:31 PM (WqMvZ)

Semantics.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 26, 2022 02:32 PM (mZ3xv)

162 Watch Jonah Goldberg in Shartnado!

Posted by: ShainS -- VDH-Endorsed-by-Proxy Connoisseur of Cruelty at August 26, 2022 02:29 PM (1ngKI)

Also starring, Yanet Garcia.

(narrator) Yanet Garcia does not appear in this film. We just said that to get horny guys to watch. The role of Yanet Garcia is played by Trigglypuff.

Posted by: Film Trailers at August 26, 2022 02:32 PM (7bRMQ)

163 Who?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 02:31 PM (LvTSG)

Guess Who.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 26, 2022 02:32 PM (trdmm)

164 I had enough of cop shows after "Kojack".

Who loves ya baby!
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Got to say, I loved me some Harry O in the day. Who wouldn't want live on the beach nextdoor to Farah Fawcett who had fucking Jaguar.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 26, 2022 02:33 PM (HTCOy)

165 Pro tip: Someone gives you a CC with a decent limit, don't spend it on anything that the person suggests.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur

Buy MyPillows!

Posted by: She Hobbit at August 26, 2022 02:33 PM (ftFVW)

166 What's my friend's legal status here?

Fucked?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2022 02:33 PM (ESjRY)

167 Unpopular opinion but…..during the War on Terror I wonder how many home grown terrorists were goaded and supplied by the Eff Bee Eye? I’m guessing more than we’d like to admit.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 26, 2022 02:23 PM (Ix++l)

A lot were. I really didn't like it then. The FBI would provide them everything and then arrest them once they took possession. The Whitmer case though is the most egregious case of it I've seen so far.

Posted by: WiNO at August 26, 2022 02:33 PM (EpDzw)

168 When you ban the defense from disputing any of the Government's testimony, it's pretty easy to get a conviction. Almost guaranteed, I would say.

Especially when there are no negative consequences for perjury by the government testimony.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 26, 2022 02:33 PM (3hSHB)

169 Buy MyPillows!

Posted by: She Hobbit at August 26, 2022 02:33 PM (ftFVW)

How much do you charge for access to your pillows exactly?

Posted by: Had to be asked at August 26, 2022 02:33 PM (ESjRY)

170 160
I was just reading, some key German electric power price futures hit the equivalent of 70 cents per kW-hr.

Europe is fucked this winter. Seen projections that the total energy costs for the average consumer of around $2200 per month for the winter.
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They should invade Russia.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 26, 2022 02:34 PM (HTCOy)

171 Federal Bureau of Intrapment

Posted by: Skip at August 26, 2022 02:34 PM (k8B25)

172 Take a deeper look at the stories behind all those terrorist convictions. Most of them sound like they are retarded or borderline retarded and the feds sucked them into some harebrained scheme to aid Al Qaeda or blow something up.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 26, 2022 02:34 PM (xPl2J)

173 Who?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 02:31 PM (LvTSG)
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I don't get it.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 26, 2022 02:34 PM (5pTK/)

174 I swear I'm gonna wet my undies

Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2022 02:21 PM (us2H3)

I give you fifty dollars!
Posted by: Japanese Fetishist at August 26, 2022 02:22 PM (7bRMQ)
==========
"Is this an in-thing now? I guess it is. I will also offer you money for your dirty underwear!"
-Jonah Goldberg
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 02:23 PM (LvTSG)

needs more tentacles...

Posted by: kurt eichenenwalden at August 26, 2022 02:34 PM (WhsXQ)

175 @150

>>When you ban the defense from disputing any of the Government's testimony, it's pretty easy to get a conviction. Almost guaranteed, I would say.

Well, the "judge" in the Bannon case would not allow him to testify that his lawyers were the ones that instructed him not to comply with the congressional subpoena.

These people give star chambers a bad name.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 26, 2022 02:34 PM (up/3i)

176 "Pro tip: Someone gives you a CC with a decent limit, don't spend it on anything that the person suggests.

Posted by: Comrade flounde"

Especially that home made bomb plan they just happened to have with them.

Posted by: Ripley at August 26, 2022 02:34 PM (MxEKc)

177 170 They should invade Russia.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 26, 2022 02:34 PM (HTCOy)

=========

They should give Iran a trillion dollars to may let them sell some goods in country, maybe, in ten years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 02:34 PM (LvTSG)

178 Our once great Country is deep down the crapper

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2022 02:35 PM (FHzKS)

179 @150

>>When you ban the defense from disputing any of the Government's testimony, it's pretty easy to get a conviction. Almost guaranteed, I would say.

Well, the "judge" in the Bannon case would not allow him to testify that his lawyers were the ones that instructed him not to comply with the congressional subpoena.

These people give star chambers a bad name.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 26, 2022 02:35 PM (up/3i)

180 Europe is fucked this winter. Seen projections that the total energy costs for the average consumer of around $2200 per month for the winter.

Taking hot showers is a luxury reserved for The Elites.

Posted by: The World Economic Forum! at August 26, 2022 02:35 PM (I2/tG)

181 CBS features three FBI shows a week. CBS is owned by AT&T. Yeah, I bet that buys a lot of goodwill from the Feds.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 26, 2022 02:27 PM (HTCOy)
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No biggie, but it's owned by Paramount. An equally nefarious corp. but not not ATT, and I agree that all those Fibbie shows are pure propaganda.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 26, 2022 02:35 PM (Rse2k)

182 Selling used pasties. Hmmmm.

Posted by: Gwyneth Paltrow at August 26, 2022 02:35 PM (m7R0k)

183 167 Unpopular opinion but…..during the War on Terror I wonder how many home grown terrorists were goaded and supplied by the Eff Bee Eye? I’m guessing more than we’d like to admit.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 26, 2022 02:23 PM (Ix++l)
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They have Klansmen and NAZIs on call 24/7. You never know when you need to smear a Republican.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 26, 2022 02:35 PM (HTCOy)

184 How DO they stick those Pasties on?
Posted by: kraken at August 26, 2022 02:31 PM (Vr12I)

Gentleman's Relish.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 02:35 PM (yQpMk)

185 Especially that home made bomb plan they just happened to have with them.

Posted by: Ripley at August 26, 2022 02:34 PM (MxEKc)

I'm looking for a way to convert to cash.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 26, 2022 02:35 PM (yHsuS)

186 *reads previous post*

Ghost in the Shell, ave Stand Alone Complex and the Separatist Eleven.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 26, 2022 02:35 PM (4cCz1)

187 How is it stealing ? I thought she lost it and they found it?
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You're probably right, vmom. I wasn't careful in my wording.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 26, 2022 02:35 PM (sWM8x)

188 To everything there is a seasoning.
Posted by: kraken at August 26, 2022 02:22 PM (Vr12I)

We live in a time that is treacherous to people who want to build, and full of promise for people who want to tear things down.

Even someone who wants a value-free analysis of order and chaos can see the wickedness of it.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 26, 2022 02:35 PM (44ww/)

189 @21

>>And, oddly, the better Jimmy looks by com

It wasn't all buffoonery, the dude did give away a perfectly good canal.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 26, 2022 02:36 PM (up/3i)

190 How much do you charge for access to your pillows exactly?
Posted by: Had to be asked

Yeah, yeah, forgot to sock Mike Lindell. Curse that Enter key.

Posted by: She Hobbit at August 26, 2022 02:36 PM (ftFVW)

191 182 Selling used pasties. Hmmmm.
Posted by: Gwyneth Paltrow at August 26, 2022 02:35 PM (m7R0k)

And Cilantro.

Posted by: kraken at August 26, 2022 02:36 PM (Vr12I)

192 I would not refuse to help a G-Man. But I might prioritize it behind making certain I got my office cleaned up and my lawn mowed.

Posted by: setnaffa at August 26, 2022 02:36 PM (bYETr)

193 Buy MyPillows!

No, Buy my coffee.

Posted by: King Harv at August 26, 2022 02:36 PM (qH6FZ)

194 he pair who stole Ashley Biden's raggedy-ass diary got five years in federal prison. Five years.

***

How is it stealing ? I thought she lost it and they found it?
==
They pled to it.

Most likely the Fibs threatened their families. That's how they roll. They needed it to be stolen, so they can go after the reporter guy for receiving stolen property.

Posted by: that's how absurd it is now at August 26, 2022 02:36 PM (F54ny)

195 I think I just typed the most grammatically screwed up sentence of my life.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 26, 2022 02:31 PM (sWM8x)

Comment 140?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 26, 2022 02:36 PM (7bRMQ)

196 2026 will mark our 250th year as a Country.

I'm not sure we're going to make it.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 26, 2022 02:36 PM (mZ3xv)

197
At least all the dive bars have Ikons and I could get right. That bitch is crazy as a shithouse rat, and she got funded like you wouldn't believe.

Posted by: LenNeal at August 26, 2022 02:30 PM (U11/V)

I have to figure out how to get in on that action.

Posted by: kallisto at August 26, 2022 02:36 PM (dCxaZ)

198 172 Take a deeper look at the stories behind all those terrorist convictions. Most of them sound like they are retarded or borderline retarded and the feds sucked them into some harebrained scheme to aid Al Qaeda or blow something up.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 26, 2022 02:34 PM (xPl2J)

++++

Well who else are they going to get?

Posted by: washrivergal at August 26, 2022 02:36 PM (IW8z9)

199 Most of them sound like they are retarded or borderline retarded and the feds sucked them into some harebrained scheme to aid Al Qaeda or blow something up.

Certainly true of the "car bomber" in Portland.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 26, 2022 02:36 PM (I2/tG)

200 Alex Berenson on Rogan today, talking about anally violating Twitter:

https://tinyurl.com/Rogan-A-Beren

Posted by: Sharkman at August 26, 2022 02:36 PM (kkaj+)

201 I was just reading, some key German electric power price futures hit the equivalent of 70 cents per kW-hr.

Europe is fucked this winter. Seen projections that the total energy costs for the average consumer of around $2200 per month for the winter.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 26, 2022 02:32 PM (Mzdiz)

This chart came up earlier today. Damned frightening in what it implies for this winter.

https://tinyurl.com/2hd4bvsb

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 26, 2022 02:37 PM (trdmm)

202 Since winter is right around the corner, I expect the junta is planning their ground invasion of Russia. That's something they would probably excitedly try, right?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 26, 2022 02:37 PM (Rse2k)

203 Europe is fucked this winter. Seen projections that the total energy costs for the average consumer of around $2200 per month for the winter.

So you are suggesting that there will be a thriving export market from the FUSA for old wooden furniture? Time to start hitting garage/estate sales and lining up some shipping containers.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 26, 2022 02:37 PM (3hSHB)

204 Nothing beats the British cop shows which all end with the unarmed cop begging the fully armed perpetrator to eithe let the girl go, not blow up the bomb, not shoot them, or all three....

And it always works. Sometimes the cop has to cry with the perpetrator first. Sometimes he has to appeal to the perpetrator's better nature and/or higher ideals. Sometimes he has to explain that he understands the perpetrator is just a victim of society, racism, Islamophobia, climate change etc.

It's beautiful just how much you can reason with armed angry crazy people when there's five minutes left in a show.

Posted by: ... at August 26, 2022 02:37 PM (e+yf1)

205 202 Since winter is right around the corner, I expect the junta is planning their ground invasion of Russia. That's something they would probably excitedly try, right?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 26, 2022 02:37 PM (Rse2k)

=========

"Call me..."
-Napoleon

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 02:37 PM (LvTSG)

206 119 Amazing how passive Americans are.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at August 26, 2022 02:29 PM (xo7ej)

Right now there aren't any possible responses within the boundaries of a functional society.

Posted by: Emmie at August 26, 2022 02:37 PM (6RgRK)

207 Europe is gonna be lit!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 26, 2022 02:38 PM (mZ3xv)

208 I had enough of cop shows after "Kojack".

Who loves ya baby!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 26, 2022 02:29 PM (R/m4+)

I watch "Major Crimes" and "The Closer" on Start TV. The youngest character on the show, a character named Rusty Beck keeps asking why any of the suspects talk to the cops, because "You all LIE! You lie to everybody, all the time!"

Every Season includes egregious scenes of excessive force, illegal searches, and even extra-judicial killings set up by the cops. That's OKAY. Those Cops are "The Good Guys!"

Posted by: rd at August 26, 2022 02:38 PM (Z32m1)

209
Flesh, they're after the Power Pasties!

Posted by: Dr. Flexi Jerkoff at August 26, 2022 02:38 PM (ixaxU)

210 dow goin for like a towsan

Posted by: REDACTED at August 26, 2022 02:38 PM (us2H3)

211 Prolly depends on whose discarded pasties they are. Just saying.
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 26, 2022 02:31 PM (DRSnL)

Yep. Consider - Stacy Abrams.
Posted by: kraken at August 26, 2022 02:32 PM (Vr12I)

Some people are desperate for a tent.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 02:38 PM (yQpMk)

212 So is the FBI the biggest publisher of the Anarchist's Cookbook?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 26, 2022 02:38 PM (4cCz1)

213 >>>What's my friend's legal status here?

>I would hope your friend was drinking club soda, and the glowie has alcohol in his system.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 26, 2022 02:38 PM (KD5bY)

214 How is it stealing ? I thought she lost it and they found it?
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 26, 2022 02:31 PM (WqMvZ)

Who, Whom. That's all that matters.

Posted by: WiNO at August 26, 2022 02:38 PM (EpDzw)

215 Since winter is right around the corner, I expect the junta is planning their ground invasion of Russia.

It's gonna work this time!

Posted by: The Junta! at August 26, 2022 02:38 PM (I2/tG)

216 So is the FBI the biggest publisher of the Anarchist's Cookbook?
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 26, 2022 02:38 PM (4cCz1)
------------

Crud, she's on to us!

Posted by: FBI Bob totally not related to Bob from NSA at August 26, 2022 02:39 PM (5pTK/)

217 207 Europe is gonna be lit!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 26, 2022 02:38 PM (mZ3xv)

========

You don't have to introduce the higher ups of the WEF to lampposts, just a whole bunch of mid-level guys who are paid well enough to have the nice houses in the area but not enough to have a second home in New Zealand.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 02:39 PM (LvTSG)

218 Europe is fucked this winter. Seen projections that the total energy costs for the average consumer of around $2200 per month for the winter.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 26, 2022 02:32 PM (Mzdiz)

Too bad.. I can still see that picture Of Trump with his arms folded surrounded by these Euroweenies after he told them this would happen

Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2022 02:39 PM (bs+z0)

219 So, I'm just happy my Polish news from a few weeks ago (about this whole crisis) is FINALLY getting picked up by the press. I mean, when a dang college student is informing me better than the damn press everywhere, I guess I'll stick with the college student translating Polish for me...

Posted by: Nova local at August 26, 2022 02:39 PM (exHjb)

220 How is it stealing ? I thought she lost it and they found it?
---
You're probably right, vmom. I wasn't careful in my wording.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis
___________________

You don't lose ownership just because you lose something. Like Opie finding that wallet. There's a difference between lost property and property you intentionally abandon.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 26, 2022 02:39 PM (es0Dj)

221 206 119 Amazing how passive Americans are.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at August 26, 2022 02:29 PM (xo7ej)

Right now there aren't any possible responses within the boundaries of a functional society.
Posted by: Emmie at August 26, 2022 02:37 PM (6RgRK)

Yep.It is voting - or that Other Thing.

Posted by: kraken at August 26, 2022 02:39 PM (Vr12I)

222 @194

>>They pled to it.
Most likely the Fibs threatened their families. That's how they roll. They needed it to be stolen, so they can go after the reporter guy for receiving stolen property.

No, what's going on there is that the FBI emanitized a RICO, extortion and conspiracy case against O'Keefe, they need to reverse engineer it, so they more than likely told the "thieves" that if they didn't play ball, they would be hit with so many charges that they would end up spending a good chunk of the rest of their lives in FPMITAP, so they copped to keep the FBI, 99plus percent conviction rate up and are forcing them to "testify against" the crime boss, aka O'Keefe.

James O'Keefe is going to be in a world of hurt very soon.

I Feel bad for the guy.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 26, 2022 02:40 PM (7qbDZ)

223 Take a deeper look at the stories behind all those terrorist convictions. Most of them sound like they are retarded or borderline retarded and the feds sucked them into some harebrained scheme to aid Al Qaeda or blow something up.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 26, 2022 02:34 PM (xPl2J)

++++

Well who else are they going to get?

The tens of thousands that actively demonstrated in the Mostly Peaceful Saint Floyd protests? They check all of the boxes: Retarded, worthless, violent, loners, psychopath...

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 26, 2022 02:40 PM (3hSHB)

224 >>You're probably right, vmom. I wasn't careful in my wording.

News reports I've read said the did indeed plead guilty to stealing her diary.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 26, 2022 02:40 PM (ZLI7S)

225 So, let's assume that the worst happens in Europe, but that while it's bad in America, it's not as bad.

How does that affect the American public's perception of green energy and energy independence in Spring of 2023?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 02:40 PM (LvTSG)

226 I went to Marina Abramovics' Sooper-Show in Belgrade, where she got paid a PILE of money for a 'retrospective'.
Swear to God, I'm used to some Pagan shit in the Balkans, but I've never experienced anything like that in real life in any other place, there is always some Christianity, that show was CRAZY.
I walked out, lit a Drina, said, 'Well, THAT was some Pagan ****....
Posted by LenNeal

////

Satanic. It's Satanic.

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 26, 2022 02:40 PM (tQL7r)

227 How DO they stick those Pasties on?
Posted by: kraken at August 26, 2022 02:31 PM (Vr12I)

have to lick them to get wet, then it kind of sticks on like a vacuum seal...

Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsXQ) at August 26, 2022 02:40 PM (WhsXQ)

228 What's my friend's legal status here?

Fucked?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2022 02:33 PM (ESjRY)

Maybe.

Posted by: Barrel of Fluoroantimonic Acid at August 26, 2022 02:40 PM (7bRMQ)

229 ..What's my friend's legal status here? Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 26, 2022 02:32 PM (nw4Vb)

In Texas, his status is "Fucked", because it's a Felony to carry in a bar, PERIOD. Unless you're a fully commissioned Texas Peace Officer (or retired w/ proper credential). Then you're Good to Go.

Glowie wise though, I'd buy your friend the next round, both the drink, and a replacement cartridge.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 26, 2022 02:40 PM (tkOps)

230 I'm looking for a way to convert to cash.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur

Buy Visa prepaid cards. Anonymous up to $1,000. Then spend how you want.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 26, 2022 02:40 PM (g1EEm)

231 "Call me..."
-Napoleon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA4_b3wlzyk

Posted by: The Junta! at August 26, 2022 02:40 PM (I2/tG)

232 205 202 Since winter is right around the corner, I expect the junta is planning their ground invasion of Russia. That's something they would probably excitedly try, right?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 26, 2022 02:37 PM (Rse2k)

=========

"Call me..."
-Napoleon
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 02:37 PM (LvTSG)

We are Smarterer! We will do it with Diversity, Equity, and Carbon Neutral love.

Posted by: General Milley-Vanilley at August 26, 2022 02:40 PM (Z32m1)

233 "182 Selling used pasties. Hmmmm.
Posted by: Gwyneth Paltrow"

-Japanese vending machine

Posted by: LenNeal at August 26, 2022 02:41 PM (U11/V)

234 "I like The Who."

I was a big fan when I was young. When Moon was on his game, they were one of the best live acts ever.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 26, 2022 02:42 PM (i0slg)

235 180 Europe is fucked this winter. Seen projections that the total energy costs for the average consumer of around $2200 per month for the winter.

Taking hot showers is a luxury reserved for The Elites.
Posted by: The World Economic Forum! at August 26, 2022 02:35 PM (I2/tG)

That's actually not a joke in Poland - and seeing the rest of Europe, it probably won't be there, either...

Posted by: Nova local at August 26, 2022 02:42 PM (exHjb)

236 Too bad.. I can still see that picture Of Trump with his arms folded surrounded by these Euroweenies after he told them this would happen
Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2022 02:39 PM (bs+z0)

We aren't doing much better. My bill is up 80% and we're shipping LNG to Europe.

Posted by: WiNO at August 26, 2022 02:42 PM (EpDzw)

237 They pled to it.

Most likely the Fibs threatened their families. That's how they roll. They needed it to be stolen, so they can go after the reporter guy for receiving stolen property.
Posted by: that's how absurd it is now at August 26, 2022 02:36 PM (F54ny)

Ok. Makes sense. Very stasi.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 26, 2022 02:42 PM (WqMvZ)

238 Every FBI search warrant grants them the right to shoot your dog.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 26, 2022 02:29 PM (KD5bY)

----------

FIB Agent: Does your dog bite?
ShainS: No.
FIB Agent: [Bowing down to pet the dog] Nice doggie.
[Dog barks and bites FIB Agent in the hand]
FIB Agent: I thought you said your dog did not bite!
ShainS: That is not my dog.
FIB Agent: [Shoots dog, arrests ShainS, and vanishes him to the Garland Archipelago]

Posted by: ShainS -- VDH-Endorsed-by-Proxy Connoisseur of Cruelty at August 26, 2022 02:42 PM (1ngKI)

239 So is the FBI the biggest publisher of the Anarchist's Cookbook?

Since some of the bomb recipes given in the Anarchist Cookbook were highly likely to blow up the bomb maker, well yeah.

Posted by: The Junta! at August 26, 2022 02:42 PM (I2/tG)

240 Elric Blade is correct. Entrapment is a very difficult defense to pull off just like insanity is especially if most of the potential evidence is set off limits such as the recordings. Basically, you admit that you did the crime but then you assert, which you have to prove btw, that you would not have committed the crime without a) extreme coercion like a gun to the head or threatening your children, or b) that the pattern of the law enforcement was so persistent over time demanding that the defendant commit the crime that it constituted harassment of a degree enough to get you to break the law. Both are difficult to prove but impossible if you cannot access much of the FBI recordings or video as evidence.

Being stupid is a mitigating factor for sentencing but not a defense as such. My guess is that the FBI did psych profiles of the guys and configured their informants to push on vulnerable parts of each of the defendants' psyches by endless harassment to do the crime. That is why the FBI dare not release the recordings as it is probably a standard MO in such cases and fine tuned as to go after vulnerable patsies from recruitment, to cultivating the relationship, to crime.

Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 02:42 PM (CXr4y)

241 We are proud to announce the federal government will be paying for German home heating bills this winter, because that's what we do (pay peoples bills)

Posted by: Karine Jean Pierre's Brain at August 26, 2022 02:42 PM (Rse2k)

242 Of course the FBI has to create terrorist plots.

They obviously cannot stop real terrorists.

9/11, Pulse Night Club shootings, San Bernardino shootings, etc.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 26, 2022 02:42 PM (5pTK/)

243 In Texas, his status is "Fucked", because it's a Felony to carry in a bar, PERIOD.
Posted by: Jim

Alright, let's say my friend persuaded the glowie to continue the conversation with me outside.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 26, 2022 02:42 PM (XFE3f)

244 I'm looking for a way to convert to cash.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur

Buy Visa prepaid cards. Anonymous up to $1,000. Then spend how you want.
Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 26, 2022 02:40 PM (g1EEm)

Wear your covid mask, and a hat.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 02:42 PM (yQpMk)

245 Maybe all the freezing Europeans will flood our southern border this winter

Posted by: NCKate at August 26, 2022 02:42 PM (2oJif)

246
Food production in Europe is also getting pretty dire. There's a feeback loop with energy and food. Energy prices start increasing and food production takes a hit.

There's already a pretty bad drought.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 26, 2022 02:43 PM (Mzdiz)

247 No, what's going on there is that the FBI emanitized a RICO, extortion and conspiracy case against O'Keefe, they need to reverse engineer it, so they more than likely told the "thieves" that if they didn't play ball, they would be hit with so many charges that they would end up spending a good chunk of the rest of their lives in FPMITAP, so they copped to keep the FBI, 99plus percent conviction rate up and are forcing them to "testify against" the crime boss, aka O'Keefe.

James O'Keefe is going to be in a world of hurt very soon.
===
Well we agree. Except there weren't any other charges to bring against the finders of the diary. They found a lost item and didn't return it. Tried to monetize it, knowing it was someone else's private property. Its a borderline case, but if they pled no problem. There aren't any other charges to push. What to do what do - look at the family members and see what you can find. Ask Gen'l Flynn, they can make you plead to something you didn't do, to save a family member. They fucking do this shit ALL the time. ALL the time. It is plan 1.

Posted by: that's how absurd it is now at August 26, 2022 02:43 PM (RCwa3)

248 dow goin for like a towsan

All because Powell said, in essence, "Hey you know what we've been telling you for six months? We still mean it." Who seriously didn't expect that?

Posted by: Oddbob at August 26, 2022 02:43 PM (nfrXX)

249 #Yikes, I bet this won't make it onto a Cafe Thread.

https://twtr.in/3L7j

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 02:44 PM (yQpMk)

250 248 dow goin for like a towsan

All because Powell said, in essence, "Hey you know what we've been telling you for six months? We still mean it." Who seriously didn't expect that?
Posted by: Oddbob at August 26, 2022 02:43 PM (nfrXX)

The entire market.

Posted by: Nova local at August 26, 2022 02:44 PM (exHjb)

251 Kallisto, are you REALLY willing to go this low?

https://tinyurl.com/bdcm7s8a

All the 'Artists' I know in Serbia were livid about that show, not so much what it was, but the money. It was millions, and the bitch is a thief, a creep, an exploiter, and a liar.
Or, so I've been told.

Posted by: LenNeal at August 26, 2022 02:45 PM (U11/V)

252 Does Schwab have a private army?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 26, 2022 02:45 PM (VdGjU)

253 It's only a crime if it's a Biden diary and it implicates the old man

Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2022 02:45 PM (bs+z0)

254 Power prices in Germany are currently a shade under $800 a megawatt, which is just unbelievable. (In normal times $10 would be viewed as expensive.)

Posted by: The Junta! at August 26, 2022 02:46 PM (I2/tG)

255 They turned Ashley's Diary abandment into a convicted crime, and wonder. No, expect going after Project Veritas for stolen goods very soon.

Posted by: Skip at August 26, 2022 02:46 PM (k8B25)

256 We're down to basically two types.

1. Those that want our country back
2. Those who will shill for the tyrants.

Let history forget they were ever my countrymen.

Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2022 02:46 PM (krQz2)

257 The pair who stole Ashley Biden's raggedy-ass diary got five years in federal prison. Five years.
Except they didn't steal it.
Ashley left it in someone else's house where the woman who found it moved in.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 26, 2022 02:32 PM (ESjRY)
********
The one thing it did prove is that the diary was real and that Ashley showered with Joe.
It's creepy in an incestuous way.
This is a big f'n deal.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 26, 2022 02:46 PM (NpAcC)

258 *said "banishes" but voice translation went with "vanishes" -- actually even better

Posted by: ShainS -- VDH-Endorsed-by-Proxy Connoisseur of Cruelty at August 26, 2022 02:46 PM (1ngKI)

259 How much of the Biden Diary is accessible to us?

Posted by: kraken at August 26, 2022 02:46 PM (Vr12I)

260 How does that affect the American public's perception of green energy and energy independence in Spring of 2023?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang

You can't react to what our media suppresses.

Posted by: She Hobbit at August 26, 2022 02:46 PM (ftFVW)

261 Too bad Schwab didn’t stick to making ginger ale.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2022 02:46 PM (cfHgC)

262 244 Wear your covid mask, and a hat.

is my wizard hat and robe now obsolete?

Posted by: kulak anachronda at August 26, 2022 02:47 PM (sGtp+)

263 So a cold winter for Europe hopefully promises Europeans wearing wool. So tired of the EuroTrash look.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 26, 2022 02:47 PM (HTCOy)

264 Buy Visa prepaid cards. Anonymous up to $1,000. Then spend how you want.

Yeah, be really anonymous. They'll know when and where you purchased the card.

Posted by: The Junta! at August 26, 2022 02:47 PM (I2/tG)

265 France's Macron: Nuclear deal on table with Iran better than no deal

Yeah no

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2022 02:47 PM (FHzKS)

266 Power prices in Germany are currently a shade under $800 a megawatt, which is just unbelievable. (In normal times $10 would be viewed as expensive.)
==
Gotterdamerrung has come for Germany.

Posted by: that's how absurd it is now at August 26, 2022 02:47 PM (C/cuq)

267 Wear your covid mask, and a hat.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 02:42 PM (yQpMk)
------------------
a hat that covers your ears.

Posted by: Karine Jean Pierre's Brain at August 26, 2022 02:47 PM (Rse2k)

268 I saw a documentary on Abramovich, because I had been told she was crazy, well before we knew she was this connected to all this shit.

What I observed was not a crazy true believer, but rather someone who had figured out how to con and manipulate very rich stupid people to believe any amazing type of horseshit.

I know the techniques. She was using all of them.

Posted by: ... at August 26, 2022 02:48 PM (e+yf1)

269 Posted by: LenNeal at August 26, 2022 02:45 PM (U11/V)

No, but i"m not above coming up with some woke gobbledygook word salad to get them to release the funding

Posted by: kallisto at August 26, 2022 02:48 PM (dCxaZ)

270 Too bad.. I can still see that picture Of Trump with his arms folded surrounded by these Euroweenies after he told them this would happen

Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2022 02:39 PM (bs+z0)

+++

Yes. I can still see that image in my mind.

Posted by: washrivergal at August 26, 2022 02:48 PM (IW8z9)

271 This blonde in a small dress will vote "not guilty" if she's ever on a jury for a case where the FBI had any involvement:
https://is.gd/LQb2RI

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2022 02:48 PM (WWh8n)

272 I'm hoping that Andromeda Strain meteorite lands on Schwab.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 26, 2022 02:49 PM (VdGjU)

273 271 This blonde in a small dress will vote "not guilty" if she's ever on a jury for a case where the FBI had any involvement:
https://is.gd/LQb2RI
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2022 02:48 PM (WWh8n)

What, no Pasties?

Posted by: kraken at August 26, 2022 02:49 PM (Vr12I)

274 @271 Now that's a tall glass of water.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 26, 2022 02:49 PM (i0slg)

275 maybe I'm just old but most of Joe's girls look 16. NTTIATWWT.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 02:49 PM (yQpMk)

276 271 This blonde in a small dress will vote "not guilty" if she's ever on a jury for a case where the FBI had any involvement:
https://is.gd/LQb2RI
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2022 02:48 PM (WWh8n)

She pings my crazy meter at an 8.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 26, 2022 02:50 PM (mZ3xv)

277 I expect Europe to shutter non-essential amusement businesses, like movie theaters, bars, etc (pretty much anything they shut for Covid) this winter either by dictat or by making it so unaffordable to be open they close anyway...

It seems like they are setting it up with "the hard winter" talk...no fun zone coming...

Posted by: Nova local at August 26, 2022 02:50 PM (exHjb)

278 Too bad.. I can still see that picture Of Trump with his arms folded surrounded by these Euroweenies after he told them this would happen

Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2022 02:39 PM (bs+z0)

+++

Yes. I can still see that image in my mind.
==
The one with Shinzo Abe standing behind him with the "don't try to sell that bullshit to us" look on his face.

Posted by: the shitshow continues apace at August 26, 2022 02:50 PM (+lvMb)

279 Entrapment is a very difficult defense to pull off just like insanity is especially if most of the potential evidence is set off limits such as the recordings. Basically, you admit that you did the crime but then you assert, which you have to prove btw, that you would not have committed the crime without a) extreme coercion like a gun to the head or threatening your children, or b) that the pattern of the law enforcement was so persistent over time demanding that the defendant commit the crime that it constituted harassment of a degree enough to get you to break the law. Both are difficult to prove but impossible if you cannot access much of the FBI recordings or video as evidence.

Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 02:42 PM (CXr4y)
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And yet it didn't affect the politicians who took money in the Abscam sting. I mean legally.

FIB enticement was enough to let those people off the hook, legally.

Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2022 02:50 PM (krQz2)

280 240 Posted by: whig

This seems so bass-ackwards. What percentage of low IQ individuals in the US could be persuaded to commit a crime by the FBI? 20%? 50%?

So the law says, any time they want to, the FBI can put such people away?

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 26, 2022 02:50 PM (g1EEm)

281 Too bad Schwab didn’t stick to making ginger ale.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 26, 2022 02:46 PM (cfHgC)

Shouldn't have sold the drug store, either.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 26, 2022 02:50 PM (7bRMQ)

282 She pings my crazy meter at an 8.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 26, 2022 02:50 PM (mZ3xv)

It's just hot and she has her arms akimbo.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 02:50 PM (yQpMk)

283 Can't wait for the next French riot.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 26, 2022 02:50 PM (mZ3xv)

284 This blonde in a small dress will vote "not guilty" if she's ever on a jury for a case where the FBI had any involvement:
https://is.gd/LQb2RI

Is that Fanny Green?
It's just the reflection off her shoes.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 26, 2022 02:51 PM (VdGjU)

285 ==
The one with Shinzo Abe standing behind him with the "don't try to sell that bullshit to us" look on his face.
Posted by: the shitshow continues apace at August 26, 2022 02:50 PM (+lvMb)

Yup

Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2022 02:51 PM (bs+z0)

286 She pings my crazy meter at an 8.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 26, 2022 02:50 PM (mZ3xv)

Eyes look like she's on drugs.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2022 02:51 PM (wvo9L)

287 Europe pissed Russia off. They are not very bright over there, are they?

Posted by: kraken at August 26, 2022 02:51 PM (Vr12I)

288 She pings my crazy meter at an 8.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 26, 2022 02:50 PM (mZ3xv)

She's definitely rocking that Aileen Wuornos vibe.

Posted by: ... at August 26, 2022 02:51 PM (e+yf1)

289 Well, Daily Mail reports Catalonia is encouraging women to swim topless in municipal pools and at the beach. So we have Spanish vacations going for us.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 26, 2022 02:51 PM (Rse2k)

290 Freezing people to death while preaching global warming isn't a good look.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 26, 2022 02:52 PM (5pTK/)

291 I wonder what "Jimmy Drama" Comey is thinking these days. He always pretended to be a great lawman, and religious. If you're truly religious, you must have shame for your bad acts.

Lordy!

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 26, 2022 02:52 PM (i0slg)

292 286 She pings my crazy meter at an 8.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 26, 2022 02:50 PM (mZ3xv)

Eyes look like she's on drugs.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2022 02:51 PM (wvo9L

Yup. Strung out NY'er who's making the circuit.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 26, 2022 02:52 PM (mZ3xv)

293 She pings my crazy meter at an 8.
Posted by: AlaBAMA

It's my shoes, right? Damnit I told Heather these were awful shoes...

Posted by: blonde in a small dress at August 26, 2022 02:52 PM (ftFVW)

294 Do you want these 35,000 corrupt Stasi contaminating every other local, state and federal law enforcement agency?
~~Keep the FBI together as an organization, but send them all far from Washington DC and give them jobs like finding missing Native American women and children.~~
Posted by: rd

no. when disbaned, defunded through the law passed by congress to do so. add a line preventing any current fbi employee, of all trades. from working that trade anywhere else. period. they must retrain to become janitors, mechanics, and day laborers.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (MrZQl) - at August 26, 2022 02:52 PM (MrZQl)

295 The blog even breaks brave browser. Gonna be a long weekend.

Posted by: NCKate at August 26, 2022 02:52 PM (2oJif)

296 Either black panties or Disco Bush.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 02:52 PM (yQpMk)

297 This blonde in a small dress will vote "not guilty" if she's ever on a jury for a case where the FBI had any involvement:
https://is.gd/LQb2RI
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2022 02:48 PM (WWh8n)

That's some nice flooring.

Posted by: spindrift at August 26, 2022 02:52 PM (h5TKJ)

298 Too bad.. I can still see that picture Of Trump with his arms folded surrounded by these Euroweenies after he told them this would happen
Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2022 02:39 PM (bs+z0)
++++
The idiots subscribed to the conventional wisdom. Joe Biden explained it succinctly in his presser back in January - that Putin won't "bite off his nose to spite his face" vis a vis European energy markets. Other than flubbing the idiom, this is exactly the assessment they *all* made. Everyone but Trump and Abe. And they were laughed at for being worried about it.

Not a single person in Europe is laughing now.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2022 02:52 PM (WWh8n)

299 This seems so bass-ackwards. What percentage of low IQ individuals in the US could be persuaded to commit a crime by the FBI? 20%? 50%?

So the law says, any time they want to, the FBI can put such people away?
Posted by: quantum mechanic
==
This is why, so many practicing lawyers you know from this site alone, hate the Fibs. Is there one defender here? Just one?

Posted by: the shitshow continues apace at August 26, 2022 02:53 PM (+lvMb)

300 @277

>>It seems like they are setting it up with "the hard winter" talk...no fun zone coming...

Europeans are used to being treated like vassals, that's essentially their history for the last 2000 years.

Except the maniacs in charge now mean to finish off what's left of them.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 26, 2022 02:53 PM (7qbDZ)

301 The Untouchables went from being the FBI to being a Biden family member.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 26, 2022 02:53 PM (KD5bY)

302 Of course the FBI has to create terrorist plots.

They obviously cannot stop real terrorists.

9/11, Pulse Night Club shootings, San Bernardino shootings, etc.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 26, 2022 02:42 PM (5pTK/)
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Probably, the Monterrey Bay (Vegas) shooting.

In other years, I wouldn't have presumed as much. But these days, I think I've spent too many years trying to distance myself from conspiracy theories.

Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2022 02:53 PM (krQz2)

303 287 Europe pissed Russia off. They are not very bright over there, are they?
----------------
They are basically CIA Client States. They do what they're told.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 26, 2022 02:53 PM (HTCOy)

304 What, no Pasties?
Posted by: kraken at August 26, 2022 02:49 PM (Vr12I)

The pasties were on the Fibbies and even if they all looked like the fit guys in the identical outfits and same style hair, I don't want to see 'em because pasties on guys makes me things of some weird strip show at a gay club.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 26, 2022 02:54 PM (wvo9L)

305 Dow down 1000

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2022 02:54 PM (FHzKS)

306 301 The Untouchables went from being the FBI to being a Biden family member.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 26, 2022 02:53 PM (KD5bY)

Yes... For the sake of argument , lets just say this was Ivanka's' diary

Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2022 02:54 PM (bs+z0)

307 no. when disbaned, defunded through the law passed by congress to do so. add a line preventing any current fbi employee, of all trades. from working that trade anywhere else. period. they must retrain to become janitors, mechanics, and day laborers.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (MrZQl) - at August 26, 2022 02:52 PM (MrZQl)

Just keep 'em out of the underpass, that's our turf!

Posted by: Bulwarkers at August 26, 2022 02:54 PM (7bRMQ)

308 Food production in Europe is also getting pretty dire. There's a feeback loop with energy and food. Energy prices start increasing and food production takes a hit.

There's already a pretty bad drought.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 26, 2022 02:43 PM (Mzdiz)

Modern High Yield Farming requires Nitrogen Fertilizer.

Nitrogen Fertilizer is made from Natural Gas using the Haber Process. \

No or Too Expensive Natural Gas = No Fertilizer = No Food.

America is a fairly rich country. Food shortages will hurt the US. Food shortages in Africa and Asia will cause famines. Famines will set the third world on fire.

Posted by: rd at August 26, 2022 02:54 PM (Z32m1)

309 If you're truly religious, you must have shame for your bad acts.

Lordy!
==
Not the pharisees. Ask me how I know.

Posted by: David French at August 26, 2022 02:54 PM (F54ny)

310 FBI had a Leftist Judge who would covict a ham sandwich for having to much mayo

Posted by: Skip at August 26, 2022 02:54 PM (k8B25)

311 305 Dow down 1000

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2022 02:54 PM (FHzKS)

Yes We Can !!!!!

Posted by: kraken at August 26, 2022 02:54 PM (Vr12I)

312 no. when disbaned, defunded through the law passed by congress to do so. add a line preventing any current fbi employee, of all trades. from working that trade anywhere else. period. they must retrain to become janitors, mechanics, and day laborers.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (MrZQl) - at August 26, 2022 02:52 PM (MrZQl)
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Where do I sign up for the newsletter?

Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2022 02:55 PM (krQz2)

313
Don't worry, electric cars will solve the energy crisis.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at August 26, 2022 02:55 PM (Mzdiz)

314 Dow down 1000

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 26, 2022 02:54 PM (FHzKS)

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day. I've got about 1% in equities since yesterday.

Usually I am a counter indicator.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 02:55 PM (yQpMk)

315 Europe pissed Russia off. They are not very bright over there, are they?

Deciding to engage in collective punishment of the Russian people via general sanctions (as opposed to targeted sanctions aimed at the people around Putin), after allowing Europe to become enormously dependent on Russian energy supplies, has to rank as one of the stupidest policy decisions in the last century.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 26, 2022 02:55 PM (I2/tG)

316 Nood

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at August 26, 2022 02:55 PM (Do5/p)

317 This blonde in a small dress will vote "not guilty" if she's ever on a jury for a case where the FBI had any involvement:
https://is.gd/LQb2RI
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2022 02:48 PM (WWh8n)
===============
I'm betting she has a knife in her right hand, and if you look at her the wrong way that thing is coming your way.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 26, 2022 02:55 PM (1GbKB)

318 I assume we are all surveilled.
---
Well in that case, WHITEY BULGER DIDN'T KILL HIMSELF.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 26, 2022 02:20 PM (sWM8x)

We know we are- the congressional letter to Rumble last week talked openly about tracking those on Truth and other spots that made "anti"them posts.

Posted by: LASue at August 26, 2022 02:55 PM (Ed8Zd)

319 Europe pissed Russia off. They are not very bright over there, are they?
Posted by: kraken at August 26, 2022 02:51 PM (Vr12I)
++++
The looked at their dependence on Russian energy as mutual a dependency - that Russia needed Europe at least as much as Europe needed Russia. To some degree, they're right about that. The energy games in Europe are actually hurting Russia. They were wrong about two crucial things, though:
1. It's hurting Europe *more* than it's hurting Russia
2. Putin is willing to take the lumps, and Europe is less willing or able to do so.

The first you can chalk up as a surprise - Russia has handled the energy and financial problems much better than expected. The second you can only chalk up as asinine stupidity.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2022 02:56 PM (WWh8n)

320 In other years, I wouldn't have presumed as much. But these days, I think I've spent too many years trying to distance myself from conspiracy theories.
Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2022 02:53 PM (krQz2)
------------

I still think the Monterey Bay thing was an arms deal that went wrong and, most likely, the CIA and FBI were joined at the hip in that fiasco.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 26, 2022 02:56 PM (5pTK/)

321 FBI had a Leftist Judge who would covict a ham sandwich for having to much mayo
Posted by: Skip at August 26, 2022 02:54 PM (k8B25)
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Mayo is White Power, the biggest threat to American Democracy (that doesn't vote Democrat).

Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2022 02:56 PM (krQz2)

322 How long after hiring do Fibbers get to go corrupt?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 26, 2022 02:56 PM (VdGjU)

323 Like I've been saying. It's August 1914 redux.

Four hegemons may not be around in the same form in five years. EU. Russia. China. Even the USA.

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 26, 2022 02:56 PM (i0slg)

324 That's some nice flooring.

Posted by: spindrift at August 26, 2022 02:52 PM (h5TKJ)

I looked at it five times and never noticed.

Guess that's what I get for looking with the sound off....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 26, 2022 02:56 PM (7bRMQ)

325 The FBI paid some woman $8000 to "share a hotel room" with one of these defendants? Amazing. I sure that relationship was totally Platonic.

So, we have the FEEBs handing out about $100K to their informants to bag a couple of imbeciles. All while Black Lives Matter and Antifa were burning cities across the U.S.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 26, 2022 02:56 PM (pJWtt)

326 Dow down 1000

Posted by: Nevergiveup
===
All is well! The recession is over. Inflation is tamed. Gas is 2 dollars a gallon (but I drive and electric car).

Posted by: Moo Moo 2 at August 26, 2022 02:56 PM (5LO61)

327 "No, but i"m not above coming up with some woke gobbledygook word salad to get them to release the funding"

...AAANNND THAT'S why I do what I do, and work an actual job and produce things for society, and generally be productive, and not a parasite, and do my personal art and writing on my own time.

You can be offended, I don't know your physical condition, but I gave up that 'Artist' as a career thing now almost 40 years ago. It's simply not moral, to me. I'm back into it now, as well, I'm getting older and I can't sling heavy stuff forever.

I truly don't mean to offend. It's personal choices and everyone's situation is different.

Posted by: LenNeal at August 26, 2022 02:56 PM (U11/V)

328 90 You folks who read pasties see those Cornish meat filled pastries or those things that cover nipples?
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 26, 2022 02:25 PM (VdGjU)

I love Alton Brown, and I love his pasties.

Posted by: Mishdog at August 26, 2022 02:57 PM (Tzl4c)

329 249 #Yikes, I bet this won't make it onto a Cafe Thread.

https://twtr.in/3L7j
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 26, 2022 02:44 PM (yQpMk)
*******
Now them woman is going to have to get some rabies shots.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 26, 2022 02:57 PM (NpAcC)

330 Latest Muse music video summarizes the state of the world pretty well:

We are Fucking Fucked

https://bit.ly/3Rae08k

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at August 26, 2022 02:57 PM (Do5/p)

331 My wife was in VA this week visiting the grand-babies, and on her way home today, barely 40 minutes from our son's house, at the start of a construction zone, her left rear tire blew out. A lovely three inch gash that rendered the tire un-patchable, (and it's a new tire). our towing coverage, from ---ALLSTATE--- never bothered to show up, even after six damn hours. With the help of locals, she managed to find a replacement tire, (318 dollars), got it mounted, and is on the way back to our son's house for the night.

She was lucky that the blow out happened at an exit. She could have been anywhere, and ALLSTATE never even bothered to call her back.

We're dropping these assholes toot sweet.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 26, 2022 02:58 PM (CCf67)

332 They call it the Waco child chip. You can even use it as a remote control for the TVvvvvvv.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at August 26, 2022 02:58 PM (SLaRb)

333 9/11, Pulse Night Club shootings, San Bernardino shootings, etc.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 26, 2022 02:42 PM (5pTK/)
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Probably, the Monterrey Bay (Vegas) shooting.

In other years, I wouldn't have presumed as much. But these days, I think I've spent too many years trying to distance myself from conspiracy theories.
Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2022 02:53 PM (krQz2)

3 months to a few decades. That is the difference between a conspiracy theory and documented fact.

Posted by: rd at August 26, 2022 02:59 PM (Z32m1)

334 Deciding to engage in collective punishment of the Russian people via general sanctions

Meanwhile, the Economist magazine says that the sanctions on Russia will cut Russia's economic growth rate in half - by 2025.

If I were a Western European leader, I'd be avoiding getting close to lampposts.

Hungary cut a separate deal with Russia, and is getting more Russian gas now than they were before.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 26, 2022 02:59 PM (I2/tG)

335 I watched "The Good Shepherd" last night. It was excellent. One theme of the movie is that it was in CIA's interest to exaggerate the Russian threat. I used to discount that position as liberal nonsense, but recent events have led me to reconsider. Hell, it's probably true.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 26, 2022 02:59 PM (sWM8x)

336 2. Putin is willing to take the lumps, and Europe is less willing or able to do so.

The first you can chalk up as a surprise - Russia has handled the energy and financial problems much better than expected. The second you can only chalk up as asinine stupidity.
==
Totally agree. Rusky will bleed himself white to kill you. The wrote the book on Do Not Give A Fcuk. The Europeans do not wish to be uncomfortable. Irony of ironies. They are going to be very uncomfortable.

Posted by: its an op, m'kay, ops are bad, m'kay at August 26, 2022 02:59 PM (de024)

337 Buy MyPillows!

Posted by: She Hobbit at August 26, 2022 02:33 PM (ftFVW)
........

I forgot my promotion code.

Posted by: wth at August 26, 2022 03:00 PM (v0R5T)

338 300 @277

>>It seems like they are setting it up with "the hard winter" talk...no fun zone coming...

Europeans are used to being treated like vassals, that's essentially their history for the last 2000 years.

Except the maniacs in charge now mean to finish off what's left of them.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 26, 2022 02:53 PM (7qbDZ)

++++

For several years now, here, the fashion for young men has been wearing shorts in the dead of winter - 20-30 degrees. Oh they'll wear jackets and wool hats - along with their shorts.

Posted by: washrivergal at August 26, 2022 03:00 PM (IW8z9)

339 298 Not a single person in Europe is laughing now.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2022 02:52 PM (WWh8n)

=========

They were still right, though.

Just ask them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 03:00 PM (LvTSG)

340 335 I watched "The Good Shepherd" last night. It was excellent. One theme of the movie is that it was in CIA's interest to exaggerate the Russian threat. I used to discount that position as liberal nonsense, but recent events have led me to reconsider. Hell, it's probably true.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 26, 2022 02:59 PM (sWM8x)

========

Robert de Niro's second directorial effort.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 03:01 PM (LvTSG)

341 To clarify, "The Good Shepherd" is about espionage post-WWII.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 26, 2022 03:01 PM (sWM8x)

342 For several years now, here, the fashion for young men has been wearing shorts in the dead of winter - 20-30 degrees. Oh they'll wear jackets and wool hats - along with their shorts.
Posted by: washrivergal at August 26, 2022 03:00 PM (IW8z9)
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When I lived in MN, toward the end of winter, sun was out, thirty degrees, etc., sweatshirt and shorts pretty much standard attire. This was back in the eighties.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 26, 2022 03:01 PM (5pTK/)

343 1. It's hurting Europe *more* than it's hurting Russia
2. Putin is willing to take the lumps, and Europe is less willing or able to do so.

Helps in the short-run if you aren't an actual democracy.

Meanwhile, China and India are buying discounted Russian oil, and Russia's building another "Power of Siberia" pipeline so it can ship more natural gas to China.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 26, 2022 03:01 PM (I2/tG)

344 341 To clarify, "The Good Shepherd" is about espionage post-WWII.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 26, 2022 03:01 PM (sWM8x)

=========

The birth of the CIA through the Bay of Pigs.

de Niro would occasionally talk about making a sequel. It won't happen, of course. He's too old to do that kind of directing. He's more than happy to do half-hearted performances in straight to video nothings while cursing out conservatives at awards shows.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 26, 2022 03:03 PM (LvTSG)

345 Robert de Niro's second directorial effort.
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Yeah, I was really surprised that it was done so well.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 26, 2022 03:03 PM (sWM8x)

346 Let's say I have a friend who carries. Some glowie sits down next to my friend in a bar, and starts going all conspiracy theory on him. Offers him money to buy material for a bomb.

My friend, being a fine upstanding citizen, initiates a citizen's arrest. Glowie resists. Glowie tries to grab my friend's weapon. Glowie gets shot in the head.

What's my friend's legal status here?
Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 26, 2022 02:32 PM (nw4Vb)

Hero?

Posted by: free tibet at August 26, 2022 03:03 PM (A+/mw)

347 And yet it didn't affect the politicians who took money in the Abscam sting. I mean legally.

FIB enticement was enough to let those people off the hook, legally.

Posted by: Axeman
--------------
Nope, most of them went to prison or pleaded guilty. 6 US House members and one senator then some lower local level fry.

Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 03:05 PM (CXr4y)

348 hen I lived in MN, toward the end of winter, sun was out, thirty degrees, etc.,
==
In Cleveland. In truth, after a month of zero ish temperatures, 30 degrees feels like spring. Because its a 30 degree change in baseline temp.

Posted by: lets not talk about winter tho at August 26, 2022 03:05 PM (hylWL)

349 /sock

Posted by: Oddbob at August 26, 2022 03:06 PM (nfrXX)

350 Latest Muse music video summarizes the state of the world pretty well:

We are Fucking Fucked

https://bit.ly/3Rae08k
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at August 26, 2022 02:57 PM (Do5/p)

Wow, that's the literal song title.
I don't know what shocks me more, the song title or that I agree with it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 26, 2022 03:06 PM (XvPQV)

351 They are corrupt from top to bottom. A criminal agency.

Posted by: Jack at August 26, 2022 03:08 PM (WTN4t)

352 Latest Muse music video summarizes the state of the world pretty well:

We are Fucking Fucked

https://bit.ly/3Rae08k
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at August 26, 2022 02:57 PM (Do5/p)

Wow, that's the literal song title.
I don't know what shocks me more, the song title or that I agree with it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 26, 2022 03:06 PM (XvPQV)

Or that it is so openly stated in the mainstream. Muse has always struck me as knowing what time it is.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 26, 2022 03:08 PM (yHsuS)

353 Too bad.. I can still see that picture Of Trump with his arms folded surrounded by these Euroweenies after he told them this would happen
Posted by: It's me donna at August 26, 2022 02:39 PM (bs+z0)
++++
The idiots subscribed to the conventional wisdom. Joe Biden explained it succinctly in his presser back in January - that Putin won't "bite off his nose to spite his face" vis a vis European energy markets. Other than flubbing the idiom, this is exactly the assessment they *all* made. Everyone but Trump and Abe. And they were laughed at for being worried about it.

Not a single person in Europe is laughing now.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2022 02:52 PM (WWh8n)

Putin will never cut off our gas supply! That would be mean!

Posted by: The Smart Sophisticated European Leaders at August 26, 2022 03:09 PM (Z32m1)

354 nood y'all

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 26, 2022 03:10 PM (XvPQV)

355 This seems so bass-ackwards. What percentage of low IQ individuals in the US could be persuaded to commit a crime by the FBI? 20%? 50%?

So the law says, any time they want to, the FBI can put such people away? Posted by: quantum mechanic
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Pretty much.

Local and state police have used the low iq people as patsies for years to clear crimes off their books. Low iq makes many of them agreeable by wanting to please, easy to coerce and coach, and some degree of believing their status as a criminal might be enhanced. Skilled interrogators can push the buttons of these people to figure out how to get them to confess to crimes that they did not commit.

Posted by: whig at August 26, 2022 03:11 PM (CXr4y)

356 127 They may have been dragged kicking and screaming into the scheme, but that's not being framed. That's entrapment.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 26, 2022 02:15 PM (iFTx/)

Here's some specifics on a part of the entrapment - the Government accused them of having an explosive device near Whitmore's home (a pipe bomb or something) How that came about - the FBI built the explosive device. The FBI gave the explosive device to these men. The FBI told these men to take it to a certain spot, and at that spot, the FBI had other men waiting to arrest them for having the FBI's explosive device on them.

Now that's pretty standard procedure for banana republicans and totalitarian regimes, but not the kind of thing we are supposed to allow here.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 26, 2022 02:29 PM (trdmm)
_______________________

I didn't say it should be allowed. I said they weren't "framed" as that term is understood. The reason is right there in your comment: these idiots actually DID take the pipe bomb to the location. They did do what they are accused of. They weren't framed. They may have been coerced or entrapped, which was illegal, but they weren't "framed."

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 26, 2022 03:13 PM (iFTx/)

357 Leaderless Resistance. Look it up. Ignore the racialist stuff.

The government and the Left (BIRM) are expert at infiltrating hierarchies and coopting them from the inside. Now is not the time to organize. Focus on keeping Free States free.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at August 26, 2022 03:22 PM (J6DvP)

358 One way you know you're not in a recession:

the DOW falls 1000 pts.

Posted by: Axeman at August 26, 2022 03:26 PM (krQz2)

359 An 8 day case. Maybe a bored, but likely an uncomfortable, jury. Several FBI and expert investigator witnesses against the dwindled down number of two defendants. And a judge who has already heard every story of why the defendants need to be punished and/or read several briefs, etc. from both teams of lawyers many times. (Or his clerk did.)

It's the government. The agency doesn't want to & generally won't drag cases into a full blown trial without winning something. Two prior defendants walked and two pled guilty. Second trial, the judge had to "cut the baby in half." (Maybe not had to but the psychological odds were also against two remaining defendants.)

Posted by: Lola at August 26, 2022 03:41 PM (NIYa7)

360 The idiots subscribed to the conventional wisdom. Joe Biden explained it succinctly in his presser back in January - that Putin won't "bite off his nose to spite his face" vis a vis European energy markets. Other than flubbing the idiom, this is exactly the assessment they *all* made. Everyone but Trump and Abe. And they were laughed at for being worried about it.

Not a single person in Europe is laughing now.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 26, 2022 02:52 PM (WWh8n)

But Putin didn't get the chance - they embargoed him first. And then the lack of Russian oil and gas spiked the market so he made as much money selling less.

Euros better wise up fast - their 'betters' are making dumber decisions than ours are.

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