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In 2012, Hyperpartisan Liberal Judge Amy Jackson Brennan Ruled That President Clinton Had Far-Reaching Discretion to Decide Which of His Documents Were Personal Records, and Which Were Official Records
If this sounds as if it is potent precedent which will avail Trump greatly, stop dreaming; this is a Democrat-Only Rule. Judge Brennan will have no problem at all deciding that this doesn't apply to Trump, citing the case of BecuzISedSo vs. Nunya Business.
The main thrust of the ruling is not relevant to Trump's case. But...Many of the documents seized by the government are things like Trump making a note on a napkin or making note on a copy of the page of a briefing book, which the government is claiming is an "official record." But obviously these can also be seen as personal records. And Amy Brennan Jackson ruled, when a Democrat she voted for was being sued, that the president had the "sole discretion" to categorize the two. And she went further still.
But Jackson's ruling -- along with the Justice Department's arguments that preceded it -- made some other sweeping declarations that have more direct relevance to the FBI's decision to seize handwritten notes and files Trump took with him to Mar-a-Lago. The most relevant is that a president's discretion on what are personal vs. official records is far-reaching and solely his, as is his ability to declassify or destroy records at will. "Under the statutory scheme established by the PRA, the decision to segregate personal materials from Presidential records is made by the President, during the President's term and in his sole discretion," Jackson wrote in her March 2012 decision, which was never appealed. "Since the President is completely entrusted with the management and even the disposal of Presidential records during his time in office, it would be difficult for this Court to conclude that Congress intended that he would have less authority to do what he pleases with what he considers to be his personal records," she added.
More:
The judge noted a president could destroy any record he wanted during his tenure and his only responsibility was to inform the Archives.
... Jackson also concluded that a decision to challenge a president's decision lies solely with the National Archives and can't be reviewed by a court. If the Archives wants to challenge a decision, that agency and the attorney general can initiate an enforcement mechanism under the law, but it is a civil procedure and has no criminal penalty, she noted.I've heard it explained that this is a civil action -- they're just using the criminal remedy of a criminal search warrant as a remedy. Which is... odd. And, of course:
On the classification issue, both Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama signed executive orders -- which remain in force to this day -- declaring that presidents have sweeping authority to declassify secrets and do not have to follow the mandatory declassification procedures all other government officials do.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Jmel at August 18, 2022 05:08 PM (bVhJi)
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Posted by: Beverly at August 18, 2022 05:12 PM (cq3U1)
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at August 18, 2022 05:12 PM (TNyrE)
This is toast.
I'm just sorry I won't get to see the Tater go on and on about how Trump is finished and the walls are closing in... then be proved wrong again.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 18, 2022 05:12 PM (u4CEu)
Posted by: Squid at August 18, 2022 05:12 PM (ujRX4)
Posted by: Beverly at August 18, 2022 05:12 PM (cq3U1)
Posted by: Iris at August 18, 2022 05:13 PM (NaH5I)
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 18, 2022 05:13 PM (bVYXr)
but it won't matter, and the DOJ under biden and his handlers guidance will charge PDJT with a phantom crime and actually put him in prison for it.
Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsXQ) at August 18, 2022 05:13 PM (WhsXQ)
This is toast.
I'm unsure if it's the Black Manhattan that makes me unable to understand this.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2022 05:14 PM (/NCI4)
1) Get the documents Trump had against the deep state on Russia, Russia
2) Get access to confidential and privileged documents including those protected by attorney client privilege, as it relates to January 6th or anything else they can invent
3) Distract from Hunter Biden and his illegal activity that includes Joe getting a piece of foreign bribes
But hey, what do I know.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 18, 2022 05:14 PM (S1S3K)
Posted by: Diogenes at August 18, 2022 05:14 PM (anj39)
Posted by: Lois Lerner at August 18, 2022 05:14 PM (EKGgi)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 18, 2022 05:14 PM (es0Dj)
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 05:14 PM (pMwL9)
Posted by: Iris at August 18, 2022 05:14 PM (NaH5I)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 18, 2022 05:15 PM (V9b2V)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 18, 2022 05:15 PM (44ww/)
Posted by: JT at August 18, 2022 05:15 PM (T4tVD)
Missiles headed for New York.
Film at 11.
More of a greasy spot, but whatevs.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2022 05:15 PM (/NCI4)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 18, 2022 05:15 PM (Y5qcH)
Posted by: polynikes at August 18, 2022 05:16 PM (RH1Zb)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 18, 2022 05:16 PM (sWM8x)
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 05:17 PM (pMwL9)
The Fed employs a lot of Vindman's.
Posted by: Bosk at August 18, 2022 05:17 PM (v4L7Y)
I mean... yeah, that's sort of obvious. I read a theory though that the purpose of all this is to get them locked up in secrecy under Grand Jury rules, to prevent them from being leaked or used anywhere.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 05:18 PM (Ivdso)
They have to use a nuke, because otherwise the monster will prevail.
Posted by: fd at August 18, 2022 05:18 PM (sn5EN)
- scotus
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 18, 2022 05:18 PM (OalnH)
Posted by: Bosk
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Definitely no shortage of them in the Army.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 18, 2022 05:18 PM (EMO0a)
Considering Toyota thinks it might not have reliable access to electricity until the weekend, something tells us the issue might be bigger than presented by the state-run press. According to Reuters, the province is expecting producers of lithium, fertilizer, and various metals used in construction to temporarily shut down or curb their output if they manage to stay open. Market analysts are already speculating that this could further spur the prices of EVs, and automobiles in general, as the value of the relevant (and seriously in-demand) commodities continues to climb.”
https://tinyurl.com/25dnsbfp
Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2022 05:19 PM (/NCI4)
This is toast.
I'm unsure if it's the Black Manhattan that makes me unable to understand this.
Posted by: Archimedes
From democrat underground always saying:
This has legs!
Bush is toast!
Which morphed into:
This has legs!
Trump is toast!
But neither one of them happened after 100s of attempts. So I garble it up because the left is garbled and stupid.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 18, 2022 05:19 PM (u4CEu)
Posted by: polynikes at August 18, 2022 05:16 PM (RH1Zb)
In a REPUBLIC, it is the equal application of Laws, which are supreme.
In a DEMOCRACY, it's the rule of the majority... ie... Man.
Note, they constantly bleat about 'protecting the Democracy'... which... we are not. THEY are upending the Constitutional System, the one that guarantees the rule of Law, by guaranteeing a Republican form of Government.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 18, 2022 05:20 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: jewells45 at August 18, 2022 05:20 PM (nxdel)
Posted by: democrats: Raping The Children We Cannot Kill Since 1973 at August 18, 2022 05:20 PM (jV+aN)
Posted by: LASue at August 18, 2022 05:20 PM (Ed8Zd)
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The whole EV transition thing is going to be an unmitigated disaster.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 18, 2022 05:21 PM (sWM8x)
Posted by: fd at August 18, 2022 05:21 PM (sn5EN)
Its just their new twisted language of the day. They mean "revolution" or "new society" or whatever leftist term in the past was used for "how we get from here to communism". But they don't want to say that out loud, so its "our democracy."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 05:21 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 18, 2022 05:21 PM (EMO0a)
I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you.
Posted by: Dr. Rumack at August 18, 2022 05:21 PM (VDLxK)
Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2022 05:22 PM (/NCI4)
Posted by: jewells45 at August 18, 2022 05:22 PM (nxdel)
Ford and Chevy increased prices of their EVs by 6 to 7 THOUSAND dollars last month.
Just as they figured out the new Subsidy was in the 'inflation production bill' (TM pending).
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 18, 2022 05:22 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: Barak Obama at August 18, 2022 05:22 PM (u4CEu)
Posted by: Said No One, Ever at August 18, 2022 05:22 PM (VTu1l)
- scotus
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 18, 2022 05:18 PM (OalnH)
It does please me, even though I wrongly said it would never happen, that there are now five people on that court that apparently enjoy telling John Roberts to go fvck himself now and then.
I don't care if they render a verdict that Reese's Cups are no longer two great tastes that taste great together. If John Roberts is for Reese's Cups, I'm against 'em.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 05:22 PM (pMwL9)
This one should be positively epic.
Posted by: irongrampa at August 18, 2022 05:22 PM (KATBx)
I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you.
We really need to get some reference material that isn't at least 40 years old.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2022 05:23 PM (/NCI4)
Posted by: portlandon at August 18, 2022 05:23 PM (+oR7L)
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I believe the catch phrase is "OUR democracy."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 18, 2022 05:23 PM (nYlxS)
They'll want me to send it to them and then I'm without a computer for months.
Posted by: jewells45 at August 18, 2022 05:23 PM (nxdel)
Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2022 05:22 PM (/NCI4)
Go long on Pick-Up Trucks. Notice that Dodge never said Ram was getting out of the ICE business.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 05:23 PM (pMwL9)
Posted by: Kindltot at August 18, 2022 05:23 PM (xhaym)
because as I've been saying, this "criminal trial" would take place in Florida where it's DOA.
Then you guys say, "nooo, it'll be in DC"
well, lookee here. DC kinda already said the law on this matter. So, if I were Merrick, and I read the law...what is the next move?
Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 18, 2022 05:23 PM (OuH7W)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 05:24 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2022 05:23 PM (/NCI4)
______________
We have to go back that far to find movies that were worth a pinch of dry crap.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 18, 2022 05:24 PM (nYlxS)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 18, 2022 05:23 PM (nYlxS)
Yeah... but it's a matter of definition.
To THEM, OUR Democracy means rule by Democrats.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 18, 2022 05:24 PM (oHd/0)
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As designed.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming
Everything is going to fall apart. Kroger has been out of store brand ice cream sandwiches for weeks. 12 for $2. If they come back they will probably be $20.
Posted by: fd at August 18, 2022 05:24 PM (sn5EN)
He also stated that he needs a replacement not chosen by a future president Trump, otherwise certain documents might not get 'lost'.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 18, 2022 05:24 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 18, 2022 05:21 PM
I honestly think that's the plan.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 18, 2022 05:24 PM (bVYXr)
We don't want to talk about it.
Posted by: rats, flies, mosquitoes, and sparrows at August 18, 2022 05:25 PM (/NCI4)
Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 18, 2022 05:25 PM (OuH7W)
"The most important thing is that we're family!"
--Fast & Furious 17, the one where they go through time to save pluto
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 05:25 PM (Ivdso)
If something involves Trump, it has to involve treason.
There's no escaping this ouroboros.
Posted by: GnuBreed at August 18, 2022 05:25 PM (JOtiF)
Or, I suppose if the Dims want a smidgen of respectability about the whole thing will say something like "these documents are so sensitive that we can't reveal them to the public for 50 years" or some such thing.
None of this appears to be legal. It's all Fascist Power Theater. Once again the country pays for some Democrat's psychiatric/emotional issues. In this case, Merrick Garland teen girl hurtz and sadz cuz he's not a supreme court justice.
Somebody buy that mook a diary with rainbow and unicorns on the cover so he can pour his little heart out onto tear-stained pages.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 18, 2022 05:25 PM (5NkmN)
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 05:22 PM (pMwL9)
Professor Quincy Adams Wagstaff agrees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v3etuIw-aM
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at August 18, 2022 05:26 PM (AiZBA)
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 05:23 PM (pMwL9)
But they did just kill the Challenger and Charger.
And Chevy says next year is the last year for Camaros, even though it takes SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS TO FUCKING ORDER ONE, they are so popular.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 18, 2022 05:26 PM (oHd/0)
Wanna bet?
Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2022 05:26 PM (/NCI4)
Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics
______________________
It's just a district court ruling, right? Not binding.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 18, 2022 05:26 PM (es0Dj)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Daughter and g-babies have two horses.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 18, 2022 05:26 PM (EMO0a)
Posted by: jwest at August 18, 2022 05:27 PM (/BlEx)
Posted by: sockamster, doctor of love at August 18, 2022 05:27 PM (OuH7W)
Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 18, 2022 05:27 PM (x6HrW)
But she's got a .... GREAT ASS!
Posted by: Vincent Hanna check's out McCauley's moll at August 18, 2022 05:27 PM (h5TKJ)
Now that's a damn shame. I've had the $2 box of Kroger Ice Cream Sandwiches before. Worth every bit of fifty cents a sandwich. That was a bargain.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 05:27 PM (pMwL9)
He also stated that he needs a replacement not chosen by a future president Trump, otherwise certain documents might not get 'lost'.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 18, 2022 05:24 PM (lTGtQ)
Well, I guess it makes about as much sense as the CDC stating that it has the power to tell landlords how much rent they can charge.
Posted by: CppThis at August 18, 2022 05:27 PM (UewuT)
I started having problems with my '13 Ford Fusion. It takes 10 days to get an appointment. It takes 10 MONTHS to get a new tranny.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2022 05:27 PM (/NCI4)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 05:27 PM (Ivdso)
He also stated that he needs a replacement not chosen by a future president Trump, otherwise certain documents might not get 'lost'.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 18, 2022 05:24 PM
SCOTUS has already ruled that is not the law and the President can do whatever he wants in regards to classified documents. This is going to wind up at SCOTUS and tie up Trump through 2025 and beyond.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 18, 2022 05:27 PM (bVYXr)
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba
well, yeah, it's also in Column A, not Column B, of the two tier justice system.
but still, this is gonna be a wrench.
Posted by: sockamster, doctor of love at August 18, 2022 05:28 PM (OuH7W)
Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 18, 2022 05:23 PM (OuH7W)
Declare the state of Florida to be contumacious?
Posted by: Kindltot at August 18, 2022 05:28 PM (xhaym)
Posted by: fd at August 18, 2022 05:28 PM (sn5EN)
He also stated that he needs a replacement not chosen by a future president Trump, otherwise certain documents might not get 'lost'.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 18, 2022 05:24 PM (lTGtQ)
Soooo... he has more power then the President of the US? The President from whom his authority is derived? /facepalm
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 18, 2022 05:28 PM (oHd/0)
Clearly but only for republican presidents named Trump or DeSantis.
Posted by: Hawaiian federal judge at August 18, 2022 05:28 PM (u4CEu)
Posted by: kraken at August 18, 2022 05:29 PM (Vr12I)
"Trump has no standing based on Putin stealing the 2016 election for him from Hillary!"
/I'm old enough to remember back when being an Election-Denier was Cool, and Dissent was Patriotic. Good times, good times ...
Posted by: ShainS -- VDH-Endorsed-by-Proxy Connoisseur of Cruelty at August 18, 2022 05:29 PM (rY/ZL)
Today's quiz: "proud man's contumely". Identify the source. No cheating.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2022 05:29 PM (/NCI4)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis
Transition is an expansive word. The current meaning is to move from powered transportation to non powered transportation.
Question: What did people use for transportation prior to horses?
Answer: Internal combustion engines.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 18, 2022 05:29 PM (lTGtQ)
//
the clown crew of dc judges is still there. Reggie Walton is still looking through the mueller report looking for the secret evidence section (j/k he sotto voce gave up and redacted more of it)
but I don't think Trump's going to plea guilty like Flynn did.
Posted by: sockamster, doctor of love at August 18, 2022 05:29 PM (OuH7W)
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As it should be.
All executive power is vested in the President, classification of documents is not a legislative or judicial function (although they *are* trying to make it one), QED the president decides the treatment of any document.
Including mopping up spooge on blue dresses.
Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2022 05:29 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 18, 2022 05:30 PM (V5dMC)
Posted by: sockamster, doctor of love at August 18, 2022 05:30 PM (OuH7W)
Posted by: kraken
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And unless the tech giants are brought under heel, 2024 is going to be a repeat of 2020.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 18, 2022 05:30 PM (EMO0a)
Ah, the Four Enemies that wound up being only three enemies and one that is not mentioned, in retrospect.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 18, 2022 05:30 PM (xhaym)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 05:31 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Elric Blade
the "cloud of criminal" suspicion being the existence of the documents being a crime. snake eat tail.
Posted by: sockamster, doctor of love at August 18, 2022 05:31 PM (OuH7W)
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 18, 2022 05:26 PM (oHd/0)
That one's interesting, but not unprecedented. Dodge also killed a popular car, even while they were running in NASCAR. And Ford, even before the EV dumbness, willingly got out of the Taurus business all while it was an incredibly popular fleet car.
ICE isn't going away, of this I'm sure. Also, pay attention to who ain't jumping exclusively into EVs. Any of the foreign makers.
I'm not saying the CEOs of the Big Three ain't stupid ... they are. But I am saying there's quite a bit of talk out both sides of the mouth right now. A whole lot of talk.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 05:31 PM (pMwL9)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 05:27 PM (Ivdso)
iirc, that dickwad made himself judge, jury, and prosecutor.
Posted by: davidt at August 18, 2022 05:31 PM (oTZbj)
>>We really need to get some reference material that isn't at least 40 years old.
The average age of the people who comment on this blog is around 55, your tastes, personality and cultural references are crystalized and set by the time your 25.
Also the last twenty years have been rough for culture and the most recent quotable cultural references are probably from the early aughts.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 18, 2022 05:32 PM (V9b2V)
They are headed for bankruptcy again, unless another bailout is in the works.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 18, 2022 05:32 PM (lTGtQ)
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 18, 2022 05:30 PM
Trump turned me into a newt!
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 18, 2022 05:32 PM (bVYXr)
What about China building a coal-fired powerplant every three weeks?
I never believed that. I worked for a power company and those things are complex.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 18, 2022 05:32 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: kraken at August 18, 2022 05:29 PM (Vr12I)
And the partnership of Industry and government is a defining characteristic of WHAT form of Government Boys and Girls? (and JUST BOYS AND GIRLS)....
Can you say Fascism? Nice try... I know you could...
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 18, 2022 05:32 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 18, 2022 05:32 PM (fs1hN)
And succeeded at everything he was trying, while paying no price for it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 05:32 PM (Ivdso)
They are headed for bankruptcy again, unless another bailout is in the works.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 18, 2022 05:32 PM (lTGtQ)
As I said, government and corporations are now one.
Posted by: kraken at August 18, 2022 05:33 PM (Vr12I)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 05:27 PM (Ivdso)
iirc, that dickwad made himself judge, jury, and prosecutor.
Posted by: davidt at August 18, 2022 05:31 PM (oTZbj)
And did not get slapped down for it by any Court above him... AS HE SHOULD HAVE. He was in direct Contempt of orders from the Court Above him...
But I guess contempt is only against the Law if you are a Conservative.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 18, 2022 05:34 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: Thomas Paine "
Too big to fail.
Posted by: Congress, passing another trillion dollar bill at August 18, 2022 05:34 PM (sn5EN)
Moscow's in flames.
Missiles headed for New York.
Film at 11.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 18, 2022 05:14 PM (anj39)
Nothing that serious.
Just the US/NATO controlled Ukrainian military shelling a nuclear plant in southeast Ukraine and Russia moving fighter planes armed with hypersonic missiles to Kaliningrad.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 18, 2022 05:34 PM (ZBXeX)
They are headed for bankruptcy again, unless another bailout is in the works.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 18, 2022 05:32 PM (lTGtQ)
Aren't they all making tons of money? Unless you mean long haul over the EV thing.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 18, 2022 05:34 PM (b2nrj)
GM, Ford, and Chrysler are headed for the dustbin of history.
To be replaced by AmeriCAR! Bernie's best.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 18, 2022 05:34 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 18, 2022 05:26 PM (oHd/0)
That one's interesting, but not unprecedented. Dodge also killed a popular car, even while they were running in NASCAR. And Ford, even before the EV dumbness, willingly got out of the Taurus business all while it was an incredibly popular fleet car.
______________
I loved the Magic Negro bailing out GM on the condition that it close the Saturn division, the only one making money. Also, by odd coincidence, the only one not unionized.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 18, 2022 05:35 PM (nYlxS)
They are headed for bankruptcy again, unless another bailout is in the works.
Hence why Ford is making such a big deal of "Super Duty", and Dodge makes such a big deal about badging "Ram". You won't see Dodge on a Ram pickup anymore, anywhere.
They're all trying to split that shit into what makes money ... half ton pickups and bigger ... and what does not. Which is everything else.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 05:35 PM (pMwL9)
Posted by: fd at August 18, 2022 05:35 PM (sn5EN)
https://tinyurl.com/2bpas9ae
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 18, 2022 05:36 PM (EMO0a)
Archives said, we want the the documents.
O'bama said, bite me.
Imagine Archives on its knees.
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at August 18, 2022 05:36 PM (07iSR)
I never believed that. I worked for a power company and those things are complex.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 18, 2022 05:32 PM (63Dwl)
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Yeah. Quality ones are.
I'm not saying it's true. I'm just saying that complexity and time depend on quality.
Posted by: Axeman at August 18, 2022 05:36 PM (krQz2)
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 18, 2022 05:37 PM (EMO0a)
https://tinyurl.com/2bpas9ae
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 18, 2022 05:36 PM (EMO0a)
`-------------------
I'm always on the cusp of something.
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at August 18, 2022 05:38 PM (07iSR)
Be fair. They also screwed bond holders and various GM dealerships.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 05:38 PM (pMwL9)
And the partnership of Industry and government is a defining characteristic of WHAT form of Government Boys and Girls? (and JUST BOYS AND GIRLS)....
Can you say Fascism? Nice try... I know you could...
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 18, 2022 05:32 PM (oHd/0)
Here we call it regulatory capture and Public Choice endgame.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 18, 2022 05:38 PM (xhaym)
Be fair. They also screwed bond holders and various GM dealerships.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 05:38 PM (pMwL9)
And then GM went bankrupt anyways.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 18, 2022 05:39 PM (b2nrj)
I know cheney's big loss is old news, now, but this Razorfist's take is always worth watching:
https://youtu.be/JgBfV2vdkwE
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 18, 2022 05:39 PM (3Iwtu)
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 18, 2022 05:39 PM (eGTCV)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 18, 2022 05:39 PM (V9b2V)
"In North America (U.S-Canada), Europe and Australia, there will continue to be massive increases in food prices as a result of the collapse in energy production. Beyond the western nations there will be food shortages as a result of lowered harvest yields and less industrial food production. This is not controversial.
It is also not controversial that regions with harsh winter climates are going to be paying much more for scarce heating resources.
That being accepted, what happens geopolitically, even militarily, when the entire global economy starts to feel the impacts from western nation economic contraction on a scale -created by collective action- that has never been seen before."
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 18, 2022 05:39 PM (EMO0a)
OK - I'll argue with the author on this. FDR economic policy during the Great Depression. Specifically when slaughtering live-stock and burning crops before they could reach market.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 05:39 PM (pMwL9)
Mostly because they've spent hundreds of millions tooling up for EVs, which have already -
pre-failed before their huge rollout.
They're trying to sell an inferior almost useless product at luxury car prices.
It's as though the entire car industry suddenly decide to build and sell AMC Gremlins.
Brilliant thinking, a-holes!
Posted by: naturalfake at August 18, 2022 05:40 PM (5NkmN)
Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2022 05:40 PM (/NCI4)
Nope... the social contract is breached. Like yo momma.
Posted by: weew at August 18, 2022 05:40 PM (+m+uH)
"What about China building a coal-fired powerplant every three weeks?"
I never believed that. I worked for a power company and those things are complex.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 18, 2022 05:32 PM (63Dwl)
It's not that they're building them in 3 weeks, it's a large country with lots of people, so many coal plants under construction simultaneously.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 18, 2022 05:40 PM (b2nrj)
>>>>Some of us are preparing, as opposed to cheerleading.
Posted by: SMH
Of course! Aren't we all? And Idk that it has to be either/or. Maybe some people can do both/and quite nicely. Like the men working on repairing the wall in Nehemiah and Ezra.
Posted by: Prime Sister
Posted by: Prime Sister at August 18, 2022 05:40 PM (tQL7r)
Aren't they all, technically?
Posted by: weew at August 18, 2022 05:41 PM (+m+uH)
Posted by: SMH
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Check out Stalin
Check out Holodomor
Think the Romans used that tactic on a few enemies.
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at August 18, 2022 05:41 PM (07iSR)
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 18, 2022 05:27 PM (bVYXr)
Will SCOTUS declare it moot when Trump gets Epsteined?
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at August 18, 2022 05:41 PM (DTX3h)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at August 18, 2022 05:41 PM (kC+Z2)
As the former owner of an AMC Gremlin, this is a calumny which must not stand. Or not. They sucked.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2022 05:41 PM (/NCI4)
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at August 18, 2022 05:41 PM (07iSR)
OK - I'll argue with the author on this. FDR economic policy during the Great Depression. Specifically when slaughtering live-stock and burning crops before they could reach market.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 05:39 PM
Add in price and wage controls to that list. Granted during WWII it was vital to us winning the war, but nixon ordering wage controls and a price freeze on oil in 1971 meet that definition.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 18, 2022 05:42 PM (bVYXr)
OK - I'll argue with the author on this. FDR economic policy during the Great Depression. Specifically when slaughtering live-stock and burning crops before they could reach market.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 05:39 PM (pMwL9)
They weren't trying to hamper the economy by doing so, as dumb as it sounds. They were trying to boost the economy.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 18, 2022 05:42 PM (b2nrj)
"In the ways that count, liz cheney won"
--NYT
Yes, the Loser "won." In a banana republic this is true.
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 18, 2022 05:42 PM (3Iwtu)
Easy Peasy.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 18, 2022 05:42 PM (Q+K8B)
Posted by: Archimedes
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But with that big V8 and a stick they were scary fast.
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at August 18, 2022 05:43 PM (07iSR)
Chuy, you might want to expand your comparisons to figures other than Lincoln.
Also, if you're gonna play in Tejas, you gotta have a fiddle in the band.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 18, 2022 05:43 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Mister Scott
Fuck Nixon
Posted by: SFGoth at August 18, 2022 05:43 PM (KAi1n)
Posted by: SMH
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Check out Stalin
Check out Holodomor
Think the Romans used that tactic on a few enemies.
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at August 18, 2022 05:41 PM (07iSR)
Ask the plains Indians about us slaughtering the buffalo so they would have nothing to eat.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 18, 2022 05:44 PM (Q+K8B)
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 18, 2022 05:39 PM (EMO0a)
Good thing Europe worked so hard--and it really was a lot of hard work over a decade--to engineer a proxy war with the country that provides its winter heat. Their Top Men are as SHMAAAHHT as ours!
Posted by: CppThis at August 18, 2022 05:44 PM (UewuT)
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 05:39 PM (pMwL9)
They weren't trying to hamper the economy by doing so, as dumb as it sounds. They were trying to boost the economy.
How about China after the treasure fleets? They knew there were other civilizations, but they didn't want to benefit from them. For that matter, medieval Japan closed itself off from the world, because round-eye.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2022 05:44 PM (/NCI4)
Posted by: Mister Scott
Fuck Nixon
Posted by: SFGoth at August 18, 2022 05:43 PM
No thanks.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 18, 2022 05:44 PM (bVYXr)
That c***nt adam kinzinger is now going after Christian pastors!
They aren't denouncing "trumpism" enough, you see. Adam the c***nt says Trump supporters equate him with a Christ figure.
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 18, 2022 05:44 PM (3Iwtu)
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 18, 2022 05:42 PM (bVYXr)
The wage and price controls just counteracted other dumb stuff they were doing(they had been promoting rising wages and prices for some time which keep unemployment high).
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 18, 2022 05:45 PM (b2nrj)
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials?"
They were so strangled they only put out about 150hp. I suppose that's better than 100 though.
Posted by: fd at August 18, 2022 05:45 PM (sn5EN)
I can try to make my wedding tackle bigger by cutting off the head. What I did, however, was make my wedding tackle smaller. Intentions mean jack shit in such a situation.
What FDR did, by destroying desired ag goods before they could reach market, was deny economic activity. By definition. I don't care what they were trying to do. Denying economic activity was what they did.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 05:45 PM (pMwL9)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 18, 2022 05:45 PM (a3Q+t)
>>pre-failed before their huge rollout.
EV's are the ultimate in dissposible and planned obsolescence.
EV's, unlike ICE vehicles, lose range every year and in roughly ten years have zero usable range whereby the battery pack needs to be replaced.
And as we've seen, owners of the first generation of EV's are being told that there are no battery packs available to replace their depleted batteries and are having to go to the grey market for salvaged batteries.
EV's may be an even bigger scam than the female G-Spot.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 18, 2022 05:45 PM (V9b2V)
Check out Holodomor
Think the Romans used that tactic on a few enemies.
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at August 18, 2022 05:41 PM (07iSR)
Ask the plains Indians about us slaughtering the buffalo so they would have nothing to eat.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 18, 2022 05:44 PM (Q+K8B)
Middle ages was full of Kings using 'punishment raids' against enemies. Go in, loot and pillage... burn down their villages... ie.. kill their economy.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 18, 2022 05:46 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: SFGoth at August 18, 2022 05:46 PM (KAi1n)
Posted by: fd at August 18, 2022 05:46 PM (sn5EN)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 18, 2022 05:46 PM (aaGzp)
They weren't trying to hamper the economy by doing so, as dumb as it sounds. They were trying to boost the economy.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 18, 2022 05:42 PM (b2nrj)
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FDR & Co were trying to kill it.
They wanted to re-form the USA into their sick vision of good.
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at August 18, 2022 05:46 PM (07iSR)
Because the names of the parties would be different, you see.
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 18, 2022 05:47 PM (i0slg)
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 18, 2022 05:47 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Bones at August 18, 2022 05:47 PM (a3Q+t)
Did Stalin conspire with other western nations to slaughter his people, and did they do the same? No.
Did the Romans conspire with other nations to reduce their economic prosperity. No.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 18, 2022 05:47 PM (EMO0a)
Posted by: Yo! Ultra MAGA at August 18, 2022 05:47 PM (uW2OD)
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 18, 2022 05:47 PM (eGTCV)
I always love the "WW II got us out of the Great Depression" argument. Which is the same policy our current dick noses in charge are running now.
Oh yes, let's create forced scarcity for a few years, then watch how everybody goes nuts when you finally stop. It's like hitting yourself in the face with a hammer. I'm sure it feels awesome when you quit.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 05:47 PM (pMwL9)
Posted by: fd at August 18, 2022 05:45 PM (sn5EN)
I have my 1983 Honda C70 scooter going again. 5HP I think.
I just managed to eke out 40mph going to the store on it. I was hoping for 45 but it is stumbling on max throttle.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 18, 2022 05:47 PM (Q+K8B)
What FDR did, by destroying desired ag goods before they could reach market, was deny economic activity. By definition. I don't care what they were trying to do. Denying economic activity was what they did.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 05:45 PM (pMwL9)
The specific claim included intent. There are plenty of examples of countries unintentionally destroying economic activity while meaning to promote it.
" There is no precedent for nations’ collectively and intentionally trying to reduce economic activity.""
FDR and his crew(so was Hoover) were worried about the threat of deflation. So tried to promote rising prices by creating scarcity.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 18, 2022 05:48 PM (b2nrj)
@MZHemingway
1h
McConnell bizarrely signals he's preparing for failure.
1) Unlike McCarthy, he previously refused to outline an agenda, saying he could flip Senate on sufficiency of Biden's failures alone.
2) He hot mad that voters rejected some of his picks, so he wants them to lose as a lesson
@frankthorp
MCCONNELL in KY asked for his midterm projections: "I think there's probably a greater likelihood the House flips than the Senate. Senate races are just different, they're statewide, candidate quality has a lot to do with the outcome."
Posted by: redridinghood at August 18, 2022 05:48 PM (NpAcC)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 18, 2022 05:40 PM (b2nrj)
But apparently they are not creating enough power to offset the hydro that is being lost.
And for some reason those massive floods that overfilled the Three Gorges dam in July 2021 didn't fill the other dams enough to survive the current drought.
When everything is a lie, all you can do is ask what seems realistic. China lies a lot, I suspect the real problem is that their banks are going to start taking serious dumps, and then the folk that lost their money are going to get shirty, and then Xi is going to roll in the tanks on the rioters.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 18, 2022 05:48 PM (xhaym)
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 18, 2022 05:48 PM (U2p+3)
Posted by: Roy at August 18, 2022 05:48 PM (Ti+Tv)
Green and Clean nuclear is coming to America baby!!!
Posted by: JROD at August 18, 2022 05:48 PM (0jZnq)
WTH?
I thought this was a bat boy type story at first. Nope, It was reported by Global National, an established Canadian news organization.
http://tiny.cc/7fgwuz
Posted by: Lost In Space at August 18, 2022 05:49 PM (FF+On)
Posted by: Edna Mode at August 18, 2022 05:49 PM (Q+K8B)
I just managed to eke out 40mph going to the store on it.
Posted by: G'rump928
What's the matter, your rider mower broken?
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 18, 2022 05:49 PM (3Iwtu)
--NYT
Willowed, best response to this I've seen is a little cartoon.
Wyoming resident "Can you stop Biden from taking away 1000s of Wyoming Jbs?"
Liz Cheney: "I'm gonna investigate Donald Trump"
WR: "Could you hold Biden responsible for the Afghanistan debacle?"
LC: "I'm gonna investigate Donald Trump"
WR: "We're literally the most conservative state in the union, can you not at least pretend to stand for us?"
LC: "I'm gonna investigate Donald Trump"
WR: "OK I'm not gonna vote for you"
LC: "Wow you traitors are so obsessed with Trump!"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 05:49 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 18, 2022 05:49 PM (EMO0a)
Posted by: Thomas Bender
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EV's are real
the scam is that they will save the planet
they are a toy for rich people
that's all
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at August 18, 2022 05:49 PM (07iSR)
@MZHemingway
Top Cheney Lieutenant On J6 Committee Seeks To Sabotage GOP Chances In Missouri With Independent Senate Run
Posted by: redridinghood at August 18, 2022 05:49 PM (NpAcC)
Posted by: LASue at August 18, 2022 05:49 PM (Ed8Zd)
Posted by: kraken at August 18, 2022 05:50 PM (Vr12I)
Wow no arrogant elitism there huh?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 05:50 PM (Ivdso)
You can always print more money, so that the folks looking at a complete loss only lose 50%. I'm absolutely certain that's Xi's plan. Also, Taiwan.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2022 05:50 PM (/NCI4)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 18, 2022 05:45 PM (V9b2V)
Electricity in the evening is .36 per Kilowatt hour. 100 KW Battery? Thats $36 to run 200 miles.
I get 22 Miles per gallon in me truck... so about 9 gallons worth of gas. So if gas is NOT over $4.00 per gallon? My truck is CHEAPER per mile.
Ergo, if they had not made gas prices artificially high, there is not economic advantage for electric... at all.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 18, 2022 05:50 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: kraken
__
Thank you.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 18, 2022 05:50 PM (EMO0a)
Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2022 05:51 PM (k8B25)
Posted by: CppThis at August 18, 2022 05:51 PM (UewuT)
I've yet to read about one of the "Big 3" dismantling much of their ICE infrastructure. There's plenty of fresh grift available to build up EV production so why would they go all in until there's a clear path for profit?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 18, 2022 05:51 PM (BFigT)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 18, 2022 05:45 PM (V9b2V)
I'm buying a EV, stat
Posted by: REDACTED at August 18, 2022 05:51 PM (us2H3)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 18, 2022 05:51 PM (Q+K8B)
Posted by: River Otters at August 18, 2022 05:51 PM (a3Q+t)
Posted by: Ripley at August 18, 2022 05:52 PM (MxEKc)
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Who said that they're starting and finishing each one in a three week period? A more accurate way of phrasing it would likely be that China's finishing a coal plant every three weeks. China's a big country. Lots of room for new coal plants there, and lots of increasing demand for electricity in parts of the country that don't have much
Posted by: junior at August 18, 2022 05:52 PM (iubYE)
The prevailing winds blow any radioactive waste out to sea in the Pacific. Well, over Taiwan and Japan first, but after that....
Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2022 05:52 PM (/NCI4)
They purposely denied economic activity. That's all there is to it. End of story.
There is no other way to describe burning crops and killing livestock before it can reach market - other than denying the opportunity to both buy and sell it. I'm really not interested in the why's. It was a denial of economic activity.
I'm sure this argument seems much, much more subtle and interesting in your head.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 05:52 PM (pMwL9)
--Leona Helmsley et al.
Posted by: Beverly at August 18, 2022 05:12 PM (cq3U1)
Remember the good ol' days when that comment shocked us?
Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornistan at August 18, 2022 05:52 PM (Qk8vt)
Every single time they have gone after Trump-- every single time-- they have leaked the most damaging with the most damaging spin.
Never, not once, have they held back any form of anything
even remotely bad.
But let the media go ahead and claim this time--for sure!-- they haven't leaked and won't .... 'cause mumble mumble reasons.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 18, 2022 05:52 PM (hmQna)
Suspect this is being funded a bit
Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2022 05:53 PM (k8B25)
Posted by: sockamster, doctor of love at August 18, 2022 05:53 PM (OuH7W)
My 70s Trail 70 would do 50 with a tailwind and a guy a good bit lighter than he is today.
Posted by: fd at August 18, 2022 05:53 PM (sn5EN)
I see a lesson in this, no?
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 18, 2022 05:53 PM (i0slg)
Can EVs make a similar boast? I calculate not.
Posted by: CppThis at August 18, 2022 05:54 PM (UewuT)
Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2022 05:54 PM (k8B25)
Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2022 05:50 PM (/NCI4)
Xi does not need to print money, as long as we are exporting our wealth to his country, via the Trade deficit.
In March of 2022, the Trade deficit FOR THAT MONTH ALONE, was $34 BILLION... for China alone. That is a $400 BILLION per year rate... about 2% of our total Yearly GDP.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 18, 2022 05:54 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: Captain Obvious
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oh, are we doing dick talk again?
Posted by: sockamster, doctor of love at August 18, 2022 05:54 PM (OuH7W)
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 18, 2022 05:47 PM (eGTCV)
Yes, but you probably should start slowly with Rapscallion 101 and Beginning Ruffianship or Hooliganism
Posted by: LASue at August 18, 2022 05:54 PM (Ed8Zd)
Yeah, if I was a 125lb Vietnamese I'd be flying around.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 18, 2022 05:54 PM (Q+K8B)
Posted by: davidt at August 18, 2022 05:55 PM (oTZbj)
he also wants to collaborate with the dims
and be the sole selector of GOP candidates in senate races
he is a real sack of shit
Posted by: REDACTED at August 18, 2022 05:55 PM (us2H3)
Posted by: sockamster, doctor of love at August 18, 2022 05:55 PM (OuH7W)
I see a lesson in this, no?
Posted by: Ignoramus
Do you have a windmill you can hook it to?
Posted by: fd at August 18, 2022 05:55 PM (sn5EN)
Posted by: N.L. Urker
___________________
Quantico, evidently.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 18, 2022 05:56 PM (es0Dj)
I just managed to eke out 40mph going to the store on it. I was hoping for 45 but it is stumbling on max throttle.
Ha, I have one of those, I also have a CT 110
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 18, 2022 05:56 PM (M+Lyo)
So it appears the auto market is kinda heading back to normal.
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 18, 2022 05:56 PM (OalnH)
Posted by: SFGoth at August 18, 2022 05:46 PM (KAi1n)
This summer when we went to one of the kiddos graduations, we flew out and rented a car.
They were out of what we hade reserved so they upgraded us for free to an Audi A5 Quattro.
Holy Cow, I absolutely fell in love with that car. Fun to drive, nice and zippy, great AC in the insanely hot AZ summer, and fit my long tall Texan frame to a T.
Were they not so insanely expensive, I would've dumped my old car for a new snazzy Audi A5 Quattro.
But, I didn't.
This story has a sad ending.
*single tear rolls down cheek*
Posted by: naturalfake at August 18, 2022 05:56 PM (5NkmN)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 18, 2022 05:54 PM (Q+K8B)
Gotta duck down under the wind !
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 18, 2022 05:56 PM (M+Lyo)
Every single time they have gone after Trump-- every single time-- they have leaked the most damaging with the most damaging spin.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 18, 2022 05:52 PM (hmQna)
Heck, if they seized anything totally legal but embarrassing like dirty undies or dick pics it would have 'accidentally' appeared on a gossip site by now. They got nuthin!
Posted by: CppThis at August 18, 2022 05:56 PM (UewuT)
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 18, 2022 05:49 PM (EMO0a)
Hmm, I think that was actually the default style of civilization back then. Royalty, and peons.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 18, 2022 05:56 PM (VwHCD)
So it is a civil matter that has no criminal penalty. Oh, that can't stand.
Trump arrested and perp walked with ankle chains, a belly chain with handcuffs, while wearing a dog collar and leash with actual police dogs biting him in the legs.
Pictures at 11.
Posted by: Lost In Space at August 18, 2022 05:57 PM (FF+On)
Posted by: Captain Obvious
///
oh, are we doing dick talk again?
Posted by: sockamster, doctor of love at August 18, 2022 05:54 PM
Don't be a dick.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 18, 2022 05:57 PM (bVYXr)
Hope I don't come to regret that decision in light of what seems to be coming.
Posted by: irongrampa at August 18, 2022 05:57 PM (KATBx)
They purposely denied economic activity. That's all there is to it. End of story.
There is no other way to describe burning crops and killing livestock before it can reach market - other than denying the opportunity to both buy and sell it. I'm really not interested in the why's. It was a denial of economic activity.
I'm sure this argument seems much, much more subtle and interesting in your head.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 05:52 PM (pMwL9)
It's not complicated. They did not intend their actions to do what happened. The original claim you contested was regarding nations intentionally destroying their own economies. FDR(and Hoover before him) is a case of unintentionally doing so. Very frequently economic interventions accomplish the opposite of their intended purpose.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 18, 2022 05:57 PM (b2nrj)
They tried a whole host of "new" economic theories and ideas by academics and ended up making the depression worse and longer-lasting as a result. They destroyed lives, businesses, and culture, all in the name of progress.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 05:57 PM (Ivdso)
It's not so much that as it is his own personal war against Trump and America First candidates. If they won't bend the knee he won't support their run.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 18, 2022 05:58 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: irongrampa at August 18, 2022 05:57 PM (KATBx)
383 or 440 ?
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 18, 2022 05:58 PM (M+Lyo)
All of my were gassers except for the diesels.
old Ford had icy air, though
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at August 18, 2022 05:58 PM (07iSR)
One of his points "And the Framers didn't just refer to representative government as democratic—they referred to direct democracy as a republic."
https://tinyurl.com/2s3mctrt
But yes, the distinctions are important. The sovereignty of the states gives them each two senators, that is not very "democratic". But still we believe "we the people" should be "in charge", which is democratic.
But the way we accomplish that is unique, and the left's desire to have one big national vote is their version of democratic ... which is direct democracy. We are representative democracy, with some special distincitons (like state sovereignty, maybe SCOTUS, idk, Eugene Volokh gives better detail than I can.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 18, 2022 05:58 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: REDACTED at August 18, 2022 05:58 PM (us2H3)
Posted by: davidt at August 18, 2022 05:55 PM (oTZbj)
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The Night of 1000 Cockroaches Scurrying.
Posted by: ShainS -- VDH-Endorsed-by-Proxy Connoisseur of Cruelty at August 18, 2022 05:58 PM (rY/ZL)
Posted by: kraken at August 18, 2022 05:59 PM (Vr12I)
Apparently a lot of Americans accept their proposal.
Posted by: Roy at August 18, 2022 05:59 PM (Ti+Tv)
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 18, 2022 05:49 PM (EMO0a)
No. Generally rulers understood that their people/population were at minimum a resource that made them wealthier and more powerful.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 18, 2022 05:59 PM (b2nrj)
No fan of Oz by the way but stupid he is not.
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 18, 2022 05:59 PM (OalnH)
The Bronze Age Collapse?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 18, 2022 06:00 PM (Q+K8B)
Owned a Saturn, worked at Toyota for a while. They both tried the same secret sauce.
Toyota's thing, for a long, long while - back when you were getting 500K out of those little pickups - was commonality of parts. What that did for them was allow parts and processes to be refined. It wasn't that Toyota rolled out a new model that much better than anyone else. But they could roll out the same, tried and true parts maybe with a different cabin or such, and expect quality results because they'd put in the time refining those parts and sub-assemblies.
They've went away from that, now. We used to call it the "GM-ification". When Toyota decided to really go all in here, after the Princeton and Georgetown plants took off, they decided they really, really wanted to emulate GM, without the union.
The UAW isn't GMs biggest problem.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 06:00 PM (pMwL9)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 18, 2022 05:57 PM
Are you an economist?
Posted by: Paul Krugman at August 18, 2022 06:00 PM (a3Q+t)
Serfs were meant to be lorded over.
Posted by: Roy at August 18, 2022 06:00 PM (Ti+Tv)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 18, 2022 05:51 PM (BFigT)
Ford is about to lay off a bunch of ICE staff. I left there just under a year ago, I could see it coming.
Posted by: clutch at August 18, 2022 06:00 PM (izeKU)
So it appears the auto market is kinda heading back to normal.
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 18, 2022 05:56 PM (OalnH)
As it should. Everyone not being paid by Brandon, Lord Pudding to shill for him knows that it's recession time and the first thing people do in a recession is stop making expensive purchases unless absolutely necessary.
Luxury brands hardest hit. Probably get a big discount on that Audi A5 up thread in a year or two, just sayin'
Posted by: CppThis at August 18, 2022 06:00 PM (UewuT)
They tried a whole host of "new" economic theories and ideas by academics and ended up making the depression worse and longer-lasting as a result. They destroyed lives, businesses, and culture, all in the name of progress.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 05:57 PM (Ivdso)
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They were fucking Communists subverting the Constitution in effort to kill the Republic and re-form it in their image.
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at August 18, 2022 06:01 PM (07iSR)
Hope I don't come to regret that decision in light of what seems to be coming.
Posted by: irongrampa at August 18, 2022 05:57 PM (KATBx)
Oh good god. You sold it?? I would have been all over that.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 18, 2022 06:01 PM (VwHCD)
Posted by: fd at August 18, 2022 06:01 PM (sn5EN)
Most of the rest of the world has had to endure destrucitve wars and despicable governments.
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 18, 2022 06:01 PM (i0slg)
Posted by: Thomas Bender
The average age on this blog? Just curious--how can you tell?
Also I'm thankful every day that what I thought was great at 25 is definitely not what I think is great today.
Posted by: Prime Sister at August 18, 2022 06:01 PM (tQL7r)
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 18, 2022 06:01 PM (3Iwtu)
You're right. It's not complicated. They curtailed economic activity. They thought it wouldn't, even while they were doing it. But they blocked economic activity all the same.
You might as well keep repeating "He threw a ball. But he meant to throw a strike." Yet, it was a ball.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 06:02 PM (pMwL9)
Newt told him he want win the majority in the House
Michel just laughed at him
Mitch is just another crumb sweeper like Michel
Posted by: REDACTED at August 18, 2022 06:02 PM (us2H3)
Our depression was twice as deep and twice as long as Britain's, e.g.
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 18, 2022 06:02 PM (i0slg)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 18, 2022 05:56 PM (VwHCD)
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True.
But, did the royal families of England, France, Spain, etc get together and decide to ruin their economies?
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 18, 2022 06:02 PM (EMO0a)
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 18, 2022 06:03 PM (OalnH)
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 18, 2022 05:54 PM (oHd/0)
But it isn't working, the banks are refusing to honor deposit withdrawals. Even with all that credit they can't keep up with the banking demands of their economy.
China should be swimming in excess capital.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 18, 2022 06:03 PM (xhaym)
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 18, 2022 05:49 PM (EMO0a)
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Unlikely, since that was before universities, graduate schools, and PhDs.
Posted by: ShainS -- VDH-Endorsed-by-Proxy Connoisseur of Cruelty at August 18, 2022 06:03 PM (rY/ZL)
Finally and for once I am proudly below average
Posted by: Bensdad00 at August 18, 2022 06:04 PM (83iJL)
I just want to tell you both good luck. We're all counting on you.
We really need to get some reference material that isn't at least 40 years old.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 18, 2022 05:23 PM (/NCI4)
Sure thing. Just let me know when they start making movies that are so funny you have to watch them 3 times to get all the jokes and not miss the funny shit going on in the background and has a no fucks given attitude about what it makes fun of.
There's just nothing made now that compares
Posted by: Buddy at August 18, 2022 06:04 PM (MFphb)
Hope I don't come to regret that decision in light of what seems to be coming.
Posted by: irongrampa at August 18, 2022 05:57 PM (KATBx)
In the burning times, it will make for a great Interceptor
Posted by: A dude in MI at August 18, 2022 06:04 PM (/6GbT)
Posted by: Brian at August 18, 2022 06:04 PM (noAE3)
It's like an electric skateboard with handlebars.
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 18, 2022 06:01 PM
Chuy might find that interesting.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 18, 2022 06:05 PM (a3Q+t)
Nicely cruel, right out of the gate.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 18, 2022 06:05 PM (yHsuS)
Some of them maybe most were. But some were just pointy-headed academics who were convinced they had a better way because gosh darn it they were so smart and had studied stuff. Finally, a president that would listen to them and do what they said, everything will be fixed!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 06:05 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 18, 2022 06:05 PM (EMO0a)
Posted by: kraken at August 18, 2022 06:05 PM (Vr12I)
Posted by: CppThis at August 18, 2022 06:00 PM (UewuT)
No discounts anywhere I’ve looked. The mrs is in the market for a Q5 type and ain’t no discounts on any of them. They’re not going for $5k over Mary anymore but there’s no rebates or cash back or anything either. Pretty much full msrp if you want one.
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 18, 2022 06:06 PM (OalnH)
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 18, 2022 06:06 PM (HJDAV)
Posted by: irongrampa
WTH? Now what are you going to be buried in? That is a Valhalla worthy ride.
Posted by: Lost In Space at August 18, 2022 06:06 PM (FF+On)
Posted by: kraken at August 18, 2022 06:06 PM (Vr12I)
Finally and for once I am proudly below average
Posted by: Bensdad00 at August 18, 2022 06:04 PM (83iJL)
And I, as usual, am above average... /smile.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 18, 2022 06:06 PM (oHd/0)
I just managed to eke out 40mph going to the store on it. I was hoping for 45 but it is stumbling on max throttle.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 18, 2022 05:47 PM (Q+K8B)
I had a Honda ST90 that topped out at about 45. Probably a good thing, since it got pretty squirrely at higher speeds, especially dirt roads.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at August 18, 2022 06:07 PM (ZSK0i)
But the way we accomplish that is unique, and the left's desire to have one big national vote is their version of democratic ... which is direct democracy. We are representative democracy, with some special distincitons (like state sovereignty, maybe SCOTUS, idk, Eugene Volokh gives better detail than I can.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 18, 2022 05:58 PM (Cus5s)
He's just confusing the issue. Athens had a variety of different government forms over time. Athens at points used direct democracy and at other points adopted representative systems. The issues with Greek direct democracy is why it was replaced by various republican systems. Republics are democracies only insofar as they are popular republics. They are distinct from unconstrained democratic systems though. Demos=common people, cracy=rule by.
A noble republic or oligarchic republic is still a republic.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 18, 2022 06:07 PM (b2nrj)
Posted by: kraken at August 18, 2022 06:06 PM (Vr12I)
Long Duc Dong hardest hit.
So to speak.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, it's pronounced Muh-Hone at August 18, 2022 06:08 PM (x8Wzq)
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 18, 2022 06:08 PM (OalnH)
There is no intent to try to prosecute Trump over anything they seized or tried to seize.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 18, 2022 06:08 PM (5p7BC)
Yeah but now he has a fat wad of cash to spend on other stuff instead of a bitchen car that goes really fast, straight.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 06:08 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Ghost of PugBoo at August 18, 2022 06:08 PM (ECubu)
Posted by: Thomas Bender
The average age on this blog? Just curious--how can you tell?
Also I'm thankful every day that what I thought was great at 25 is definitely not what I think is great today.
Posted by: Prime Sister
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I'm with you. I've changed a lot since I was 25. Musical tastes. Way more culturally conservative. Hell, I think I was ambivalent about gun control back then.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 18, 2022 06:08 PM (es0Dj)
Finally and for once I am proudly below average
Posted by: Bensdad00 at August 18, 2022 06:04 PM (83iJL)
And I, as usual, am above average... /smile.
Posted by: Romeo13
My hormone levels say I'm 17.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at August 18, 2022 06:08 PM (kC+Z2)
You're right. It's not complicated. They curtailed economic activity. They thought it wouldn't, even while they were doing it. But they blocked economic activity all the same.
You might as well keep repeating "He threw a ball. But he meant to throw a strike." Yet, it was a ball.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 06:02 PM (pMwL9)
And you said "they intended to throw a ball". Now you're acknowledging they did not intend to.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 18, 2022 06:09 PM (b2nrj)
Then she saw the answer; she saw the secret premise behind their words. With all of their noisy devotion to the age of science, their hysterically technological jargon, their cyclotrons, their sound rays, these men were moved forward, not by the image of an industrial skyline, but by the vision of that form of existence which the industrialists had swept away—the vision of a fat, unhygienic rajah of India, with vacant eyes staring in indolent stupor out of stagnant layers of flesh, with nothing to do but run precious gems through his fingers and, once in a while, stick a knife into the body of a starved, toil-dazed, germeaten creature, as a claim to a few grains of the creature's rice, then claim it from hundreds of millions of such creatures and thus let the rice grains gather into gems.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 18, 2022 06:09 PM (Q+K8B)
born of the industrial revolution, had not held as conceivable, had forgotten along with the tales of astrology and alchemy, what these men knew in their secret, furtive souls, knew not by means of thought, but by means of that nameless muck which they called their instincts and emotions: that so long as men struggle to stay alive, they'll never produce so little but that the man with the club won't be able to seize it and leave them still less, provided millions of them are willing to submit—that the harder their work and the less their gain, the more submissive the fiber of their spirit—that men who live by pulling levers at an electric switchboard, are not easily ruled, but men who live by digging the soil with their naked fingers, are—that the feudal baron did not need electronic factories in order to drink his brains away out of jeweled goblets, and neither did the rajahs of the People's State of India.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 18, 2022 06:09 PM (Q+K8B)
I agree. This wasn't about GETTING TRUMP, it was about making him look bad, feeding the base red meat, fulfilling a deep state fantasy, and nabbing some documents they wanted out of Trump's hands.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 06:09 PM (Ivdso)
Yeah but now he has a fat wad of cash to spend on other stuff instead of a bitchen car that goes really fast, straight.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Well, there is that.
Posted by: Lost In Space at August 18, 2022 06:09 PM (FF+On)
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 18, 2022 06:02 PM (EMO0a)
Keep in mind, the current retards in charge are just as frustrated as you are that things aren't "working".
They thought a little nudge, since the technologies are "so close", and we'd make this great transition. They really did. Read any of the publications on battery tech and such. They'll tell you that, based upon a very selective sampling of data, batteries are following something very similar to Moore's Law. That was something regarding transistors.
And it wasn't a damn law. It was an assumption, nothing more. But today's Ivy League Idiots believe it.
Because they are fools. But that part you already knew.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 06:09 PM (pMwL9)
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 18, 2022 06:10 PM (OalnH)
https://bit.ly/3AxIID5
Posted by: bonhomme at August 18, 2022 06:10 PM (eyxn4)
Posted by: motionview, a National Divorcee at August 18, 2022 06:10 PM (+r+VC)
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 18, 2022 06:10 PM (U2p+3)
There was supposed to be no math on this blog.
Posted by: Roy at August 18, 2022 06:10 PM (Ti+Tv)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 06:11 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 18, 2022 06:02 PM (EMO0a)
No, it's very abnormal to try to genocide your own country. This madness regarding depopulation is relatively recent.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 18, 2022 06:11 PM (b2nrj)
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 18, 2022 06:11 PM (i0slg)
Posted by: Yo! Ultra MAGA at August 18, 2022 06:11 PM (uW2OD)
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 18, 2022 06:10 PM (U2p+3)
My charm and intelligence, I suppose.
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 18, 2022 06:11 PM (OalnH)
https://bit.ly/3AxIID5
Posted by: bonhomme at August 18, 2022 06
I guess we're the same. I'm not going to miss him either.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 18, 2022 06:11 PM (eGTCV)
They curtailed economic commerce. Pure and simple. What they intended was to change the price / supply point. Also a curtailment of commerce, since by definition it would have stopped those previously able to buy at a lower price from participating.
How about we do this ? You just scroll past me. And I'll just scroll past you. Because these esoteric little arguments you enjoy ? I don't. Not because you're right. Because you're tedious.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 06:12 PM (pMwL9)
Posted by: SFGoth at August 18, 2022 06:12 PM (KAi1n)
What happened to CFO of Trump Organization? 5 months in Rikers Island for 15 tax fraud felonies. .
Posted by: Paul at August 18, 2022 06:12 PM (awTYg)
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at August 18, 2022 06:12 PM (07iSR)
Not that she shows off her Molly bits. But there is the panty scene too.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 06:12 PM (Ivdso)
That can't be right. I thought we had a gaussian distribution between 18 and 28, and then an impulse at 29.
Posted by: motionview, a National Divorcee at August 18, 2022 06:12 PM (+r+VC)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 06:11 PM (Ivdso)
Closest I can think of was the Khmer Rouge. But even that was in the name of glorious revolution.
But honestly the parallels between this and any communist purges are startling- except for the murder, yet.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 18, 2022 06:13 PM (HJDAV)
Posted by: Paul at August 18, 2022 06:13 PM (awTYg)
How about we do this ? You just scroll past me. And I'll just scroll past you. Because these esoteric little arguments you enjoy ? I don't. Not because you're right. Because you're tedious.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 06:12 PM (pMwL9)
You're the one who pedantically deflected from SMH's point of malign intent.
And seriously, you're very pedantic while also not good with accuracy.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 18, 2022 06:13 PM (b2nrj)
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 18, 2022 06:13 PM (OalnH)
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent
My Honda CT90s will do 53mph with a slight tailwind. Need to get a brain bucket with flames on it. Both are sitting on stands in the garage waiting for me to put the new carburetors on them. At 100 + mpg I should probably bump them up the priority list.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at August 18, 2022 06:13 PM (kC+Z2)
Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2022 06:13 PM (k8B25)
Posted by: Kindltot at August 18, 2022 05:48 PM (xhaym)
You thought the supply chain was screwed up before? Wait until the Chinese decide Emperor For Life Xi Jingping needs to go.
Then add in Europe runs out of Russian Natural Gas and shuts down everything to keep the lights on and people warm in January and February 2023 before it goes to shit and everyone freezes in March anyway.
Posted by: rd at August 18, 2022 06:14 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 18, 2022 06:14 PM (OalnH)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 18, 2022 06:00 PM (Q+K8B)
Similar, but that was a disruption of the supply of Tin and highly centralized production and distribution of goods that came from instability that happened because of the exhaustion of the Hittite and Egyptian states, with the Attic Greeks and the Western Anatolian city states deciding they were going to fight for dominance
The collapse happened over a fairly extended period, the main part is the fall of the Anatolian cities like Troy and the Canaanite cities along the Eastern Med shore to the Sea Peoples. Egypt survived because she was not dependent on the Attica - Anatolia - Crete trade circle, which is what collapsed (all this is my opinion so you can call me wrong for pulling it out of my butt from my reading)
it was more like the end of the Roman Empire.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 18, 2022 06:14 PM (xhaym)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 06:11 PM (Ivdso)
The explicit antihumanism in the current elite is remarkable. So many people these days who openly wish for the destruction of humanity, or at the least most of it.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 18, 2022 06:15 PM (b2nrj)
Yeah there are plenty of examples of people doing idiotic stuff that any sane person knew would lead to ruin, but they didn't mean for it to.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 06:15 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Paul at August 18, 2022 06:13 PM (awTYg)
You literally know nothing.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 18, 2022 06:15 PM (Q+K8B)
As in the 1st Amendment:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Of course, I'm assuming the Antifa/BLM definition of "peaceably"...
Posted by: setnaffa at August 18, 2022 06:15 PM (bYETr)
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 18, 2022 06:02 PM (EMO0a)
No, it's very abnormal to try to genocide your own country. This madness regarding depopulation is relatively recent.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy
Yep. The fun of being a tyrant is not an inverse relationship with respect to population.
Posted by: Lost In Space at August 18, 2022 06:15 PM (FF+On)
Posted by: kulak anachronda at August 18, 2022 06:15 PM (oY6Yp)
Posted by: Paul at August 18, 2022 06:16 PM (OalnH)
iirc, there are many founders that referred to U.S. as a democracy ... but sure, I guess it is nice to be distinct from the commie concept of democracy. ... Lots of African nations like to be called "The People's Republic of ... " even if they are basically commie.
anyway, mostly I don't see it as an important semantic hill to die on.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 18, 2022 06:16 PM (Cus5s)
Because they are fools. But that part you already knew.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 06:09 PM (pMwL9)
It wasn't so much an assumption, as it was a trendline fitted to historical manufacturing data, extrapolated until they expected to approach physical manufacturing limitations. IIRC, they muddled past the initially estimated endpoint for Moore's Law due to new and improved processes that were not foreseen when the statement about doubling of transistors in a given space was put forth.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 18, 2022 06:16 PM (yHsuS)
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 18, 2022 06:16 PM (i0slg)
Posted by: Paul at August 18, 2022 06:17 PM (OalnH)
That scene is definitely questionable.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 18, 2022 06:17 PM (eyxn4)
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent
My Honda CT90s will do 53mph with a slight tailwind. Need to get a brain bucket with flames on it. Both are sitting on stands in the garage waiting for me to put the new carburetors on them. At 100 + mpg I should probably bump them up the priority list.
Posted by: Sock Monkey
I had Honda Trail 90 that had removable big sprocket. It was my only transportation for about a year. It was pretty much a heart attack per mile when riding around in traffic.
Posted by: Lost In Space at August 18, 2022 06:17 PM (FF+On)
Posted by: irongrampa at August 18, 2022 06:18 PM (KATBx)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at August 18, 2022 06:13 PM (kC+Z2)
That's one thing I do recall. That bike was neither powerful, nor sexy. But the gas mileage made it really easy on the ol' teenager's wallet.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at August 18, 2022 06:18 PM (ZSK0i)
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at August 18, 2022 06:13 PM (kC+Z2)
Precisely. That's why I took the C70 out of mothballs.
I'm not sure I have the full and reserve fuel line right and it is taking me forever to run it down to see. I filled it up because I am running that Seafoam cleaner through it.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 18, 2022 06:18 PM (Q+K8B)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 06:18 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 18, 2022 06:18 PM (OalnH)
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 18, 2022 06:02 PM (EMO0a)
Here's where it gets tricky - whenever folks in charge start weighing into price controls and such.
They're pretty much ALWAYS going to try to thwart popular will, expressed as supply and demand, for some other goal. That's about all they can do.
In this particular, the regime wants to get in the middle of your willing trade for gasoline, diesel, and vehicles that use the same. They want to deny your willing economic exchange for these things. Why ?
Honestly - because they think they know better than you do what your economic preferences should be. And that's how it always works.
And just like Prohibition, and this is a new prohibition, it has support from some of your neighbors. This isn't purely a top-down thing.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 18, 2022 06:19 PM (pMwL9)
iirc, there are many founders that referred to U.S. as a democracy ... but sure, I guess it is nice to be distinct from the commie concept of democracy. ... Lots of African nations like to be called "The People's Republic of ... " even if they are basically commie.
anyway, mostly I don't see it as an important semantic hill to die on.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 18, 2022 06:16 PM (Cus5s)
The US has rule by the people, which translates literally to democracy. In structure it, is a republic. Not all republics are democracies.
Democracy as a particular system is also used selectively and in a differentiating fashion for the Greek governments, their democracies and their republics. In context it tends not to be hard to understand which meaning is being employed, but there is one sense in which the US republic is a democracy (the people rule) and another sense in which it is not (no unlimited direct rule).
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 18, 2022 06:19 PM (b2nrj)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 18, 2022 06:19 PM (V9b2V)
Posted by: Ralphie Parker at August 18, 2022 06:19 PM (sWM8x)
Not that she shows off her Molly bits. But there is the panty scene too.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 06:12 PM (Ivdso)
She did her, "Okay, I'm nekkid now. Here are the girls!" movie about 15 years ago, I think. It was a cable movie IIRC.
She was okay. Shoulda done it in her early 20s though while she was still unbelievably pretty and cute.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 18, 2022 06:20 PM (5NkmN)
esp if he got priors and they gave him a pass
Posted by: REDACTED at August 18, 2022 06:20 PM (us2H3)
@julie_kelly2 - 1m
Little reminder one of French's paymasters is Facebook -- The Dispatch is a paid FB "fact checker"
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Of course.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 18, 2022 06:20 PM (ptqGC)
It would take off the line and get up to about 35-40MPH faster than most cars tho'.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 18, 2022 06:20 PM (BFigT)
The average age on this blog? Just curious--how can you tell?
_______________
We confirmed. Now go back to what you were doing.
Posted by: Chris (Big Brother) Wray at August 18, 2022 06:20 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 18, 2022 06:19 PM (V9b2V)
Problem is it’s not just PA that gets it. As a US senator his actions affect all Of us as much as anyone in PA.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 18, 2022 06:20 PM (OalnH)
Posted by: Archimedes
Judge Learned Hand.
I have no idea, I just like saying "Judge Learned Hand."
Posted by: mikeski at August 18, 2022 06:21 PM (P1f+c)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 18, 2022 06:18 PM (Q+K8B)
I let both of mine sit with gas in them so they have to come apart. Fucking ethanol
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 18, 2022 06:21 PM (M+Lyo)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 18, 2022 06:21 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: The Ghost of PugBoo at August 18, 2022 06:21 PM (ECubu)
Posted by: Lost In Space
You should experience going as fast as you possibly can, bent over the handlebars praying with a logging truck trying to imprint Peterbilt on your ass
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at August 18, 2022 06:21 PM (kC+Z2)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 18, 2022 06:19 PM (V9b2V)
I think Fetterman is staying viable in this race so that when he dies the Dem governor can appoint another lunatic in his place.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 18, 2022 06:21 PM (Q+K8B)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy
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Of course it's abnormal
Insanity is abnormal
_Pol Pot
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at August 18, 2022 06:21 PM (07iSR)
I think that is what Volokh (and I) were saying, but that is a succinct one sentence summary.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 18, 2022 06:22 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 18, 2022 06:22 PM (BFigT)
Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 18, 2022 06:22 PM (OalnH)
It's like an electric skateboard with handlebars.
Posted by: Soothsayer
The Big Daddy Don Garlits of the Walmart!
Posted by: Miklos would place bets at August 18, 2022 06:22 PM (LyVHa)
It was quite an impressive pair, though. If you look back you can see that she was stacked in older films but they did a really good job of hiding it. Even as a kid she's unusually developed (see The Tempest).
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 06:23 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: kraken at August 18, 2022 06:23 PM (Vr12I)
There is no intent to try to prosecute Trump over anything they seized or tried to seize.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 18, 2022 06:08 PM (5p7BC)
If that is true, and it very well may be, there is at least a chance even Trump doesn't know which document in particular has their panties in a bunch. I am less certain myself now that they will prosecute than I was last week, but that was 100 percent. I still think the odds are they do so but wouldn't put money on it.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 18, 2022 06:23 PM (nMx88)
Posted by: Thomas Bender
So much Islamophobia, straight up.
Posted by: Miklos expects moar of PA Dems at August 18, 2022 06:23 PM (LyVHa)
Emperor Wolf has ruled us like a European state in 1600s
Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2022 06:24 PM (k8B25)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Well, that's the thing -- we don't exactly know for sure. There's a lot of stuff we all learned in History that maybe wasn't just like it happened in real life. And maybe there were outright lies in our History books.
I, for one, think there are unexplainable things that are not covered in what we know about History. And I think maybe TPTB actually have tried this psyop/panopticon before. Now excuse me, I have to adjust my tin foil hat. 😉
Posted by: Prime Sister at August 18, 2022 06:24 PM (tQL7r)
Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 18, 2022 06:24 PM (OalnH)
He will vote, in caucus, to oust McConnell
And when he gets that special phone call
he will vote as needed.
Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at August 18, 2022 06:24 PM (07iSR)
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 18, 2022 06:24 PM (Q+K8B)
I think that is what Volokh (and I) were saying, but that is a succinct one sentence summary.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 18, 2022 06:22 PM (Cus5s)
The broader and literal meaning of "rule by the people" is largely archaic today and unnecessarily confusing.
Aristocracy means rule by the best, ie meritocracy, but it'd be confusing to use it in that manner.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 18, 2022 06:24 PM (b2nrj)
Posted by: REDACTED at August 18, 2022 06:25 PM (us2H3)
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Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 18, 2022 06:25 PM (RkC6l)
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Posted by: fd at August 18, 2022 06:25 PM (sn5EN)
I, for one, think there are unexplainable things that are not covered in what we know about History. And I think maybe TPTB actually have tried this psyop/panopticon before. Now excuse me, I have to adjust my tin foil hat. 😉
Posted by: Prime Sister
"History is a set of lies agreed upon."
Posted by: that One Corsican Brother at August 18, 2022 06:25 PM (LyVHa)
Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 18, 2022 06:26 PM (OalnH)
Like I've said, watch for the big flip by the left/Democrats to pimping nuclear power. "but JROD the left hates nuclear power!" No they don't. They don't mind Iran having it even at the cost of weaponizing it. Nuclear is good when the left is leading the charge.
Green and Clean nuclear power for your EV's they're going to shove down our throats. It'll be glorious!!!
Posted by: JROD at August 18, 2022 06:26 PM (0jZnq)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 18, 2022 06:26 PM (wmDcS)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 06:15 PM (Ivdso)
Pol Pot intended to do exactly what he did, it was an immediate switch to a Marxist economy, with a focus on killing off non-ethnic Cambodians and the intellectuals and the traditional leaders who could have prevented the switch.
What he didn't intend was for it to fail, or to be defeated by the Vietnamese invasion.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 18, 2022 06:27 PM (xhaym)
Sounds like Obama slurring some small business owner for not kissing his ass.
My other choice is Liz "Lincoln" Cheney after storming the buffet line at a Golden Corral and insulting the prime rib carver for cutting her off.
Or that English guy. The one from Liverpool.
Posted by: Lost In Space at August 18, 2022 06:28 PM (FF+On)
Yeah there are plenty of examples of people doing idiotic stuff that any sane person knew would lead to ruin, but they didn't mean for it to.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 06:15
You bring up an interesting point CRT.
But how about the latest psycho GREEN mentality, that Mother Gaia is worth more than humans. We need to reduce our presence to stop hurting Mother Gaia.
For what propose then does Mother Gaia exist if not to nurture the humans who have developed so much out of the materials available on the planet?
OK, I think I need another one hitter before I put the pork roast and sweet corn on the grill.
Posted by: Farmer at August 18, 2022 06:28 PM (55Qr6)
Posted by: Joe XiDen at August 18, 2022 06:20 PM (OalnH)
******
Exactly. Too many people think not my state, not my problem. They don't realize the impact or the domino effect 1 senator or 1 governor can have on the rest of the country.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 18, 2022 06:28 PM (NpAcC)
I'm gonna call BS on that set of assumptions. I didn't check out of pop culture until my kid was well into adulthood. Also, it you've the same personality at 40 that you had at 25, you're doing something wrong.
See Churchills musings about age and conservatism.
Posted by: Buddy at August 18, 2022 06:29 PM (MFphb)
And like you say there's info we don't know and who can tell for sure if the info we get is accurate. Some of it is so late or written by people with an agenda of their own.
For example, everyone knows for sure that Ty Cobb was a brutal and vicious, moronic racist. They know that not because he was but because one guy who hated Ty Cobb with the heat of ten thousand suns wrote a bio that was turned into a movie and that's what everyone "knows".
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 06:30 PM (Ivdso)
I think its reactionary. Its not so much worry about the earth as it is a vicious, long-term leftist hate of the Biblical concept of earth being here for humans to tend and garden, that man is the pinnacle of creation. Leftist hate the Bible, hate God, and want to destroy that.
So man is turned into the worst of creation, an aberration, an alien invasive species that causes destruction everywhere.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 18, 2022 06:33 PM (Ivdso)
Posted by: JROD at August 18, 2022 06:26 PM (0jZnq)
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A personal nuclear fusion system in every car!
Posted by: ShainS -- VDH-Endorsed-by-Proxy Connoisseur of Cruelty at August 18, 2022 06:35 PM (FRFaP)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 18, 2022 06:13 PM (b2nrj)
You guys should just get get a war room already.
Posted by: polynikes at August 18, 2022 06:36 PM (RH1Zb)
One part is trying to find a way to create a world in accordance to a marxist/socialist philosophy that will make the world predictable and controllable.
A final part is looking at it as a way to gain massive power and wealth without having to work for it, and justify the theft of it from the people they ostensibly represent and care for (like the ex president of Sri Lanka)
If they win they will start eating each other
Posted by: Kindltot at August 18, 2022 06:38 PM (xhaym)
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 18, 2022 06:42 PM (eGTCV)
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 18, 2022 06:43 PM (eGTCV)
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 18, 2022 06:48 PM (tlKXn)
Posted by: N.L. Urker
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Because for the time being, Satan rules this world.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 18, 2022 06:49 PM (tlKXn)
Posted by: Kindltot
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They won't win, God wins in the end.
Unfortunately, His timetable is not ours.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 18, 2022 06:50 PM (tlKXn)
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Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 18, 2022 06:52 PM (tlKXn)
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 18, 2022 06:57 PM (AHuy6)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 18, 2022 07:06 PM (wvo9L)
Posted by: BehindTheTofuCurtain at August 18, 2022 07:59 PM (QOhBK)
1) The documents Trump declassified prior to leaving office, and had WH officials box up and ship to Mar a Lago, were all directly related to operation Crossfire Hurricane, aka "russiagate" - the spying on his campaign and administration.
2) Trump is currently pursuing a RICO case against the FBI, CIA, DOJ officials that initiated and led that operation.
3) These documents are the evidence against them.
4) Judge Reinhart was the Judge in that RICO case, but was forced to recuse due to personal conflicts of interest in the case.
5) Many of the FBI agents that were a part of that operation were also involved in the raid at Mar a Lago.
6) So, the documents they seized were being used in a case against them, and the Judge that signed the warrant for the raid had a conflict of interest in that case and had had to recuse himself from it.
This is a cover up. Nothing more. The FBI/DOJ wants to bury the documents proving their own criminal activity against Trump.
Posted by: Callawyn at August 19, 2022 04:34 AM (sKM7R)
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