Mike Pence: Talking About Defunding the FBI is Just Like Talking About Defunding the Police

Except that the FBI is a rogue agency which is acting as the Armed Paramilitary of the Democrat Party.

And also: "Defund the FBI" is a parody of the left's "Defund the Police." But the actual suggestions for destroying the FBI involve breaking it up into a bunch of smaller, less powerful component organizations -- the crime lab, the crime statistics lab, etc. -- and devolving some of its functions to other agencies and local police forces.

Liz Wheeler offers a similar take on abolishing the FBI.


It's time to abolish the FBI. The raid on Mar-a-Lago revealed the agency to be a political hostaet man for the Left disguised as law enforcement. People have rightly lost their trust that it will operate as a neutral enforcer of law. Now, half the country is looking over its shoulder wondering whether a "Don't Tread on Me" flag will bring federal agents to their door in pre-dawn hours.


Farm out the vital functions of the FBI and raze the rest. RIP to the FBI, an organization that died the way it was founded in the J. Edgar Hoover era--as a political tool for the elite and powerful, weaponized to spy on their enemies.

People are not insane. They acknowledge that some of the functions of the FBI are worth doing.

We just no longer trust anyone in the FBI to do them, nor do we trust anyone in the FBI to reform themselves. They have already been ordered by an IG to undertake reforms, and have apparently refused to do so.

So the agency must be abolished, and made into smaller ones, each with less political power, and, crucially, each employee must be made to re-apply for his old job.

With Maximum Vetting.

Meanwhile, this very reasonable, very judicious agency which is totally not just a bunch of Smug Twitter Liberals with Guns is putting out the most hairy-scary panic messaging to get the public to support them:

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Via Twitchy, the Washington Times reports on the FBI's New and Improved Russiagate Fearporn offerings:

The FBI is warning of calls for civil war and a dirty bomb threat against its D.C. headquarters following its raid on former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida.

In a leaked bulletin, the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security said they have seen an increase in "violent threats" against law enforcement, government officials and judges in the week since the agents executed the search warrant at Mr. Trump's residence.

The bulletin warned of talk to place a dirty bomb in front of FBI headquarters and "general calls" for a civil war and armed rebellion. Investigators also are monitoring threats against the federal judge who approved the warrant to search Mr. Trump's residence.

Linking this article -- and the FBI's efforts to cast itself as the poor put-upon victim while attacking its political enemies as "terrorists" and "DVEs" for posting the Molly Ross flag -- Kyle Shideler observes:


Kyle Shideler
@ShidelerK

Nor is it insignificant they do so w/ patented left-wing Cry-bullying. That the bureau founded by J. Edgar Hoover to hunt down anarchists & communists turned into a Federal Bureau of Taylor Lorenzes manages to be terrifying & embarrassing all at once.

Note that the FBI refused to arrest people intimidating Supreme Court Justices in direct violation of federal law.

But they want you to know that they're a-scared by your free speech and so you should stop speaking freely.

Ruth Sent Us, on the other hand? Their free speech is sacrosanct. Even when it literally violates federal law.

Ben Weingartner discusses the War on Wrongthink at The Federalist.

[P]erhaps most insidious will be the effort by the regime, already begun, to cast itself as the victim of the raid rather than the aggressor, and to use its victimhood status to persecute its political opponents ever more viciously.

Since even before Jan. 6, the regime has been pushing the narrative that Trump poses a unique danger to "our democracy," not only as a political figure but in effect as the leader of a domestic terrorist army, and that those who support his agenda are inciting terror.

Hence the pronounced effort in the immediate aftermath of the raid to focus on how it unleashed a reported torrent of threatening rhetoric on social media. None other than Daniel J. Jones, the former Sen. Dianne Feinstein staffer who played a central role in the Russiagate and post-Russiagate information efforts, was the key source of corporate media outlets in analyzing this rhetoric.

...

The regime has cleverly cast its critics as posing the most lethal to the homeland by intentionally conflating their dissenting views with "racial or ethnic animus" and/or "anti-government or anti-authority" sentiments. So it will use the furor over the Mar-a-Lago raid to further pursue them under a National Strategy for Countering Domestic Terrorism explicitly aimed at them.

Antifa and BLM are obviously "anti-government" as well, but the FBI supports their speech, and refuses to classify they as "domestic violent extremists."

Because they support antifa and BLM using violence to push the country to the political left.


...


At a minimum, we can expect a bevy of threat assessments from the national security apparatus, aided by a hysterical media, identifying grave and imminent threats to the homeland as emanating from those who criticize said apparatus, and would dare call to defund if not abolish/reorganize its various elements.

The regime has shown it will do what it can with whatever it has to demonize and hunt down opponents of its agenda in service of its power and privilege -- not "democracy."

Time will tell whether Americans know what time it is and choose to replace it. Either way, the costs will be significant.

And so of course Mike Pence -- supposedly a "religious" man, but one who gutted the religious freedom laws in his own state in order to please the left, the gay lobby, and his corporate allies (he's religious in the sheets, but not in the streets) -- comes riding to the FBI's rescue.

Dave Reaboi calls Pence a "BoomerCon."

I know that some have a problem with the word "Boomer" used as a slur. Apologies for that. I think it can be useful for describing a "it's perpetually 2003 and I don't know What Time It Is" mindset, but I do understand the objections to it. Even though it's used to describe people regardless of actual age, yeah, I understand, if you actually are a Boomer, even if not a "Boomer" in the insult sense, it's going to feel like a slight.

Almost all NeverTrumpers are "BoomerCons," even though many are pretty young. They just... they really just think they're rah-rahing for George Bush's re-election.

David Reaboi, Late Republic Nonsense
@davereaboi

There's a massive--but, thankfully, shrinking--BoomerCon segment of the GOP that's so braindead with sentimental, heart-thumping reverence for the Heroic G-Man, they refuse to do the slightest thing that would hold the FBI accountable for its crimes.

This mentality -- that there is nothing more to be done in the conservative project but some minor tinkering -- is central to neocon thinking, because the neocons were very happy with a "conservative" party that accepted all the key assumptions and claims of the leftwing Democrat Party.

Actual conservatives do not accept these key premises, but rather dispute them completely, and therefore see the need not for minor tinkering but for major changes and huge overhauls of how the government operates.


Connoisseur of Cruelty Victor David Hanson disagrees with Pence:


Victor Hanson: 'We Don't Have Rule of Law in Washington ... FBI is Beyond Redemption' - When asked about the FBI raid on former President Donald Trump's home in Palm Beach, Fla., professor, author, and political commentator Victor David Hanson said, "right now, we don't have the rule of law in Washington," and added that, "The FBI is beyond redemption."

...

Cain asked Hanson why the FBI raided Mar-a-Lago and why were they targeting Trump.

"Well, they're afraid in the short term," he said, in reference to the Democrats and the left, "but in the long term they believe they're morally superior to America, and therefore any means necessary or justifiable for their morally superior ends."

"And right now, we don't have the rule of law in Washington," said Hanson. "Whether you're targeted or exempt depends on your ideology."

...

He continued, "So in the past when there was a dispute over the Archives or presidential papers, Barack Obama just said, 'I'm not going to turn them over to the Freedom of Information. He spent $30 million resisting efforts to do that. George Bush had an Executive Order and said, 'You know what, I'm not going to do this.' And that was adjudicated."

"Now we go after a president and go to his house with 30 agents," said Hanson. "In the past, when a high official was called for a congressional subpoena, Eric Holder just said, 'I'm not going and I'm not turning over any of this fast and furious.'"

"The idea that you would put him in shackles or you confront him with his family and grab his phone is just ridiculous," said Hanson. "But this is what we're doing on an ideological basis."

"And when you start to do that, you don't have a democracy anymore," he added. "And I don't think we do."

Hanson went on to criticize the Jan. 6 committee, comparing it to the authoritarian committees of the French Revolution headed by Robespierre.

"To be on that Committee, you have to have one criteria and you have to vote to impeach Donald Trump," said Hanson. "If you're a Republican there was one other qualification, you had to be politically inert with no future and it was deductive."

"It started with the premise that we're going to destroy Donald Trump and then we're going to bring in witnesses and we're going to allow narratives for that end," he added. "There is going to be no cross examination."

As for the FBI, Hanson remarked, "I never thought I would say this: The FBI is beyond redemption.

It is -- all of its bureaus and its institutions that have to be farmed out and broken up. If you have a warrant, an FBI warrant, there is no guarantee that that has not been altered. If you subpoena and you want FBI records on phones ... they will be wiped clean."

"We just saw [FBI Director] Christopher Wray and he just stonewalled every question and then he flew on an FBI plane, our plane, a luxury jet because he had to go to his own vacation spot. He took over, remember, from Andrew McCabe -- what did he do? He lied four times to federal investigators, and his wife was running for an office with Clinton-related PAC money while he was investigating Hillary Clinton's e-mail scandal."

"[McCabe] took over from James Comey who leaked confidential memos written on FBI devices to the media," added Hanson, "and then when he was called before Congress, on 245 occasions, he said, he didn't know or didn't remember."

"All of this is destroying this country," said Hanson. "And it comes from the people who warned us democracy dies in darkness, and they have descended upon us, the greatest cloud of autocracy and illiberality in the history of this Republic. ... [L]et's pray to God the Republicans can save us."

And never forget the FBI's greatest triumph: Burying the Clinton Email Scandal.

Posted by: Ace at 04:42 PM




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1 First!

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 17, 2022 04:42 PM (b2nrj)

2 Race Bannon cries out for vengeance.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 17, 2022 04:42 PM (HJDAV)

3 Willowed:

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Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 04:43 PM (yHsuS)

4 OK, let's not talk about defunding the FBI. Let's talk about heads on pikes.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 04:44 PM (yHsuS)

5 Personally I'd just get rid of most of the administrative state and sort out any resulting anarchy afterwards. But as a general organizing principle, large organizations with vague or sweeping directives is a bad way of doing things.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 17, 2022 04:44 PM (b2nrj)

6 They WANT a civil war. They are SURE they would win.

Posted by: kraken at August 17, 2022 04:44 PM (Vr12I)

7 I thought "lawnchair" Pence was growing somewhere during the Trump admin, but this is stooopid.

And it shows so little thought. So little that it's almost like hearing a Democrat state something.

The Police is a profession.

The FIB is an organization.

Stop being stupid.

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 04:44 PM (krQz2)

8 Mike Pence can eat a bag of dicks.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 17, 2022 04:45 PM (dCMcd)

9 Defund? Funny way to spell burn to the ground

Posted by: A dude in MI at August 17, 2022 04:45 PM (/6GbT)

10 Leave mike alone. He's probably spent all 30 pieces of that silver and memories of the nanzi fist bump just aint putting fried chicken on the table.

Even washed up has been cucked out gopE traitors have to eat.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at August 17, 2022 04:45 PM (1DgE4)

11 Amazing that acting like the Gestapo gets the FBI threats from Americans. Pro hint: stop acting like the Gestapo.

Posted by: IanDeal at August 17, 2022 04:45 PM (MGjjz)

12 6 They WANT a civil war. They are SURE they would win.
Posted by: kraken at August 17, 2022 04:44 PM (Vr12I)

Agreed. Note that this new found attitude only came after they had nominally captured the military.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 17, 2022 04:45 PM (HJDAV)

13 When the police are defunded, you get blue cities in flames and soaring crime levels.

When you get the FBI defunded, you get...what, exactly.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 17, 2022 04:45 PM (OB+je)

14 The vaunted FBI crime lab was rife with incompetence and lying under oath, corruptly putting people in prison. The "profilers" have never caught a serial killer. The investigators have missed too many known wolves to list. What, exactly, does that shitty organization do again?

Posted by: ejochs at August 17, 2022 04:45 PM (lSFMQ)

15 Anyone who had any questions about Pence shouldn't any longer.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at August 17, 2022 04:45 PM (QYPq3)

16 Repost: Debunking Wray's Dirty Bomb agit prop

https://bit.ly/3dBz9dc

Nobody not on their radar has access to the highly controlled radioactive materials. Either it's Wray's Fednapping 2: Nuclear Boogaloo, or pure FUD, designed to scare the mouthbreathers.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 04:45 PM (yHsuS)

17 Great music meme with Comey and Clinton.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 17, 2022 04:46 PM (wvo9L)

18 Pence: "Calls to defund the FBI are just as wrong as calls to defund the police."

OK groomer.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 04:46 PM (llON8)

19 3 Masturbating Pete has deep pockets... when he's wearing pants

Posted by: steevy at August 17, 2022 04:46 PM (NMHe5)

20 Pence is to Trump as GHW Bush was to Reagan.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at August 17, 2022 04:47 PM (QYPq3)

21 Golly, who thought Mike Pence would make a good VP?

Posted by: Blago at August 17, 2022 04:47 PM (PwNLq)

22 13 When the police are defunded, you get blue cities in flames and soaring crime levels.

When you get the FBI defunded, you get...what, exactly.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 17, 2022 04:45 PM (OB+je)

I think they arrest people for insider trading stuff. Not sure what else.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 17, 2022 04:47 PM (b2nrj)

23 fuck that twatwaffle pence with a flaming pineapple wrapped in rusty barbwire and dunked in lemon juice.

Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsXQ) at August 17, 2022 04:47 PM (WhsXQ)

24 "The bulletin warned of talk to place a dirty bomb in front of FBI headquarters ..."

Talk? Sounds serious!


If there was it was probably the FBI undercover going down to Joe's bar and Grill trying to get the locals interested in a plan.


Otherwise This goes in the category of Things That Did Not Happen.

Posted by: Ripley at August 17, 2022 04:47 PM (MxEKc)

25 It's because the Boomer label is dumb. Name another of the generations that spans 20 years. People now seem to think anyone old is a Boomer, which is why they will call Biden and Pelosi Boomers. It's like astrology.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 17, 2022 04:47 PM (9WSy4)

26 wut?

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 17, 2022 04:48 PM (Gt91P)

27
Alternate post title:

Fake Christian And Likely Pedo, Mike Pence, Has Had More Positive Things To Say About the FBI Since The Illegal Raid Than About the Reversal of Roe v Wade

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 17, 2022 04:48 PM (jmDe3)

28 huh?

Posted by: olddog in mo, No Cheetos allowed on the 'toon at August 17, 2022 04:48 PM (ju2Fy)

29 That the bureau founded by J. Edgar Hoover to hunt down anarchists & communists

NOPE.

Posted by: TheMitch at August 17, 2022 04:48 PM (cDITE)

30 There is that mall store called Forever 21.

#Forever03 is what we need to call these cucks.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 17, 2022 04:48 PM (Wjl3P)

31 De-fund Mike Pence.

De-fund the feckless, useless GOPe.

Posted by: Stu-22 at August 17, 2022 04:48 PM (J8sNU)

32 weird. there was a post. then it was gone.

like a bunce of good morons suddenly cried out, and their rantings were lost to the ether...

Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsXQ) at August 17, 2022 04:48 PM (WhsXQ)

33 what the?

Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at August 17, 2022 04:49 PM (aXaSz)

34 Defund Mike Pence.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 17, 2022 04:49 PM (X/UGK)

35 pence is jeb! 2.1.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 17, 2022 04:50 PM (bVYXr)

36 >>>Actual conservatives do not accept these key premises, but rather dispute them completely, and therefore see the need not for minor tinkering but for major changes and huge overhauls of how the government operates.

Thank you, Chuy Libre. Well said.

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 17, 2022 04:50 PM (tQL7r)

37 Still here!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 17, 2022 04:50 PM (yikp0)

38 Mike Ponce.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 17, 2022 04:50 PM (S1S3K)

39 For a guy who served as the VP in what we're led to believe was the most lawless administration ever, Pence seems to skate by without a hint of scrutiny.

Interesting, that.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 17, 2022 04:51 PM (KbCG3)

40 >>>OK, let's not talk about defunding the FBI. Let's talk about heads on pikes.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur

Yes, let's.

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 17, 2022 04:51 PM (tQL7r)

41 So what did Chuy change- that inveterate layabout- change?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 17, 2022 04:51 PM (HJDAV)

42 In a leaked bulletin, the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security said they have seen an increase in "violent threats" against law enforcement, government officials and judges in the week since the agents executed the search warrant at Mr. Trump's residence.

All this is is people with guilty consciences, knowing full well what they deserve, continuing to be surprised that no one will bring them to justice. You see the same thing from serial killers who write the papers, and laughably, the FBI itself, in an effort to find someone to stop them.

Posted by: Methos at August 17, 2022 04:51 PM (kOpft)

43 >>> 22 13 When the police are defunded, you get blue cities in flames and soaring crime levels.

When you get the FBI defunded, you get...what, exactly.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 17, 2022 04:45 PM (OB+je)

I think they arrest people for insider trading stuff. Not sure what else.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 17, 2022 04:47 PM (b2nrj)

Normal people, not congresscritters.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 04:52 PM (llON8)

44 Mike Pence needs to shut the fuck up and sit the fuck down.

Posted by: Guzalot at August 17, 2022 04:52 PM (c1V25)

45 Try this again

There is that mall store called Forever 21.

#Forever03 is what we need to call these cucks.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 17, 2022 04:52 PM (Wjl3P)

46 Note that the FBI refused to arrest people intimidating Supreme Court Justices in direct violation of federal law.

Buffalo Shaman giving AoC the sads by taking selfies nowhere near her = end of the Republic

Lefties trying to assassinate SC judges to get leftist policy implemented = hoohum

Posted by: 18-1 at August 17, 2022 04:52 PM (ESjRY)

47 "Calls to defund the FBI are just as wrong as calls to defund the police."

Pence is dunderheaded tool.

Calls to "defund the police" were premised on the lie the cops were gunning down unarmed black men at epidemic rates. That lie has been debunked.

Calls to "defund the FBI" are premised on real, proven, and continued abuse by those within the FBI against ideological opponents of the left - while they ignore easy child abuse cases, while everyone on the left gets a pass for any of the same offenses, drug and firearm offenses, trafficking offenses, and while generally acting like a domestic terror organization akin to the left's Stazi.

Pence can eat all the dicks.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 04:52 PM (yHsuS)

48 Say again - spoiling for a fight, they are. All of their actions are intended to provoke.

Posted by: kraken at August 17, 2022 04:52 PM (Vr12I)

49 For a guy who served as the VP in what we're led to believe was the most lawless administration ever, Pence seems to skate by without a hint of scrutiny.

Interesting, that.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 17, 2022 04:51 PM (KbCG3)


Weird, huh? Like he was a mole for the deep state or something.

Posted by: Archer at August 17, 2022 04:52 PM (gmo/4)

50 I regret that I have one backhole to give for my country!

Posted by: Mike Pence at August 17, 2022 04:52 PM (ESjRY)

51 Willowed:
Dana Loesch eviscerates Mike Pence for saying calls to defund the FBI 'are just as wrong a calls to defund the police'

https://tinyurl.com/33av8h5a

Posted by: redridinghood at August 17, 2022 04:52 PM (NpAcC)

52
Think about it.

Pence said Nothing about Roe v Wade. Nothing.
Nothing before the opinion. Nothing after the opinion.

But he sure does have Stronk Opinions in favor of the FBI.

He's a Christian, my ass. Just like cocksucker bush.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 17, 2022 04:53 PM (jmDe3)

53 Pence: "Calls to defund the FBI are just as wrong as calls to defund the police."

In other words: "FBI, Please don't "accidentally" release my confidential file"

Posted by: Chuck C at August 17, 2022 04:53 PM (xttsV)

54 >>>They WANT a civil war. They are SURE they would win.
Posted by: kraken


Yeah, they are so confident. Whadda they know that we don't?


Posted by: Prime Sister at August 17, 2022 04:53 PM (tQL7r)

55 There's a massive--but, thankfully, shrinking--BoomerCon segment of the GOP that's so braindead with sentimental, heart-thumping reverence for the Heroic G-Man

Got no patience for the brackets.

Us boomers are no fans of the FIB. Tired of the boomer diss.

We didn't vote for SS or Medicare. The "Greatest Generation " did. Keep that in mind at all times.

Posted by: Golfman at August 17, 2022 04:53 PM (rhXTS)

56 Ok I will say it

Pence / Fat Lizzy 2024

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 17, 2022 04:53 PM (Wjl3P)

57 >>> 47
==
Pence can eat all the dicks.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 04:52 PM (yHsuS)

ALL of them?!

Posted by: Kamala Harris at August 17, 2022 04:53 PM (llON8)

58 Who is Mike Pence's audience exactly?

The guy really does still think it's still 1996 and this is still the Republican playbook.

Posted by: Blago at August 17, 2022 04:54 PM (PwNLq)

59 It would be shocking if pence ever got anything right

Posted by: NCKate at August 17, 2022 04:54 PM (2oJif)

60 Thin Lizzy >> Fat Lizzy

Posted by: kraken at August 17, 2022 04:54 PM (Vr12I)

61 >>>Yeah, they are so confident. Whadda they know that we don't?


Posted by: Prime Sister at August 17, 2022 04:53 PM (tQL7r)

Nothing of relevance. They're just dumb.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at August 17, 2022 04:54 PM (QYPq3)

62 Pence is penis... a very tiny wenis of a penis.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 17, 2022 04:54 PM (u4CEu)

63 Who runs the FBI, Mike. Don't think it's the rank and file.

Posted by: olddog in mo, No Cheetos allowed on the 'toon at August 17, 2022 04:54 PM (ju2Fy)

64

Dear Mike Pence,

You are the worst sort of Christian, a smug Christian absolutely assured of your holiness when in fact you are nothing more than a tool of Satan.

When you wake up and hell with a demons dick up your butt I hope you cry out to God for help and hear nothing...

Posted by: Xtreme Denise at August 17, 2022 04:54 PM (MmNRJ)

65 It's a big deal when a Federal Magistrate gets threats!

No big deal when a mob goes to the house of a SCOTUS Justice though.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at August 17, 2022 04:54 PM (JVCkA)

66 52

Pence did put out a statement re: Roe after the decision. Lots of reasons to hate the asswipe, no need to make up reasons.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 17, 2022 04:55 PM (Wjl3P)

67 Pence can go piss up a rope. He isn't even yesterday's news.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2022 04:55 PM (geRMl)

68 For a guy who served as the VP in what we're led to believe was the most lawless administration ever, Pence seems to skate by without a hint of scrutiny.

You don't say....?

Posted by: Ray Epps at August 17, 2022 04:55 PM (ESjRY)

69 How many times have we heard after a mass shooting, stabbing or other mass casualty event, have we heard that the perpetrator was on the FBI's radar?

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 17, 2022 04:55 PM (zL564)

70 And don't forget Jane's Abortion Addiction.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at August 17, 2022 04:55 PM (JVCkA)

71 He could've done 12 moah years.

Now he gets booed in Indiana.

Posted by: DaveA at August 17, 2022 04:56 PM (FhXTo)

72
Yeah, fuckfaces. Your little US Flag Label Pin ain't cutting it for us, anymore.

Your Bullshit on abortion, spending, taxes, "freedom," and border control ain't cutting it.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 17, 2022 04:56 PM (jmDe3)

73 I thought a dirty bomb was when you took a massive shit at someone's house and didn't flush.

Posted by: Fish at August 17, 2022 04:56 PM (NUpdS)

74 When you get the FBI defunded, you get...what, exactly.
Posted by: Darrell Harris
___

We wouldnt even notice if the FBI disappeared.

Just to be intellectually honest, most local police are just traffic enforcement. Try to actually get a cop to come out and even take a report for a robbery.

Posted by: Blago at August 17, 2022 04:56 PM (PwNLq)

75 All these resentful tears from the deep state over their lost influence is entertaining and optimistic!

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Posted by: Sarah at August 17, 2022 04:56 PM (xc/MV)

77
Pence / Fat Lizzy 2024


I saw The Low T Men open for Fat Lizzy at the Gorge in '04

Posted by: Ray Epps at August 17, 2022 04:56 PM (ESjRY)

78 So... it appears that it's time for the GOPe to start pushing their possible presidential candidates. I guess Cheney and Pence are the starting line up. Going to be a long and stupid season.

Posted by: Usedtocould at August 17, 2022 04:56 PM (LRa30)

79 All those things the fbi says are threats are completely doable. By the fbi. After all they did Ruby Ridge and Waco and Jan6. Not to mention stole the 2020 election. Did I miss anything?

Posted by: Eromero at August 17, 2022 04:57 PM (0OP+5)

80 Pence/Noem 2024: "If you like it, we'll veto it"

Posted by: Chuck C at August 17, 2022 04:57 PM (xttsV)

81 VDH is exactly right. I think even after Hillary a lot of people said, OK if that's the standard I suppose we'll live with it". Then they proceed in demolishing that standard because the party affiliation changed. That is absolutely corrupt, and there is no other way to see it. The minute you've applied the law differently to people is the minute you lost credibility by your own actions. Why would you as a taxpayer fund alleged law enforcement agency that behaves contrary to the law? Unfortunately there are a lot of people in Washington who think like Pence. It's why you don't see an actual legislative agenda item to disperse the FBI into component pieces. It's also why Wray treats Congress like a bunch of peasants. He knows they're all cowards.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 17, 2022 04:57 PM (S1S3K)

82 A new trailer that interests me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pT3DtPrl_Ho

Living, a remake of Akira Kurosawa's Ikiru, reset in post-war Britain and starring Bill Nighy.

I am intrigued and wish to know more.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 17, 2022 04:57 PM (LvTSG)

83 99.99% of the FBI are good guy heroes! One of the janitors in the Cleveland office I'm not too sure about.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 17, 2022 04:57 PM (FVME7)

84 Yeah, they are so confident. Whadda they know that we don't?

Their understanding of the first civil war is limited to "the federal government won". They therefore assume the only possible outcome to another is "the federal government will win" and that's their side.

Posted by: Methos at August 17, 2022 04:57 PM (kOpft)

85
Pence did put out a statement re: Roe after the decision. Lots of reasons to hate the asswipe, no need to make up reasons.
Posted by: Joe Xiden


lolz
wow, a statement

Smarten up.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 17, 2022 04:57 PM (jmDe3)

86 What, exactly, does that shitty organization do again?

Posted by: ejochs at August 17, 2022 04:45 PM (lSFMQ)

Ignore high-profile child molesters.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 04:58 PM (yHsuS)

87 I'm making over $13k a day working part time. I kept hearing other people tell me how much money they can make as a spineless pundit so I decided to look into it. Well, it was all true and has totally changed my life.
This is what I do... http://gope.traitor.org

Posted by: Mike Pence at August 17, 2022 04:58 PM (ESjRY)

88 David French gave Pence the Kiss of Death as saying Pence is better than DeSantis. Whatever his Wife's Boyfriend is giving him to smoke I hope he let's us know

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at August 17, 2022 04:58 PM (cxG4V)

89 Last vid is awesome.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 04:58 PM (e+yf1)

90 Weird, huh? Like he was a mole for the deep state or something.

Posted by: Archer

Maybe so. But could he not be a mole for Trump just as easily?

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 17, 2022 04:59 PM (tQL7r)

91 Defund whatever you want. I can protect my family a lot better than some faggot with a badge and a pension can pretend to.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2022 04:59 PM (IXpV7)

92
This is the same cuck, Pence, who conspired to frame Michael Flynn.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 17, 2022 04:59 PM (jmDe3)

93 Was it 2015 when Gov. Pence caved on the Religious Freedom Restoration Act in Indiana? Large corps threatened to leave the state 'coz gays may not be able to marry, iirc. Eff "evangelical" Mr. Pence.

Posted by: olddog in mo, No Cheetos allowed on the 'toon at August 17, 2022 04:59 PM (ju2Fy)

94 Why was Mike Pence in St. Croix on Jan 7th? Non-official visit.

Posted by: Maj. Healey Will Never Consume Bugs Or Bug Parts at August 17, 2022 04:59 PM (m7R0k)

95 I dunno. Even Bongino said a raid on the former president involving 30-40 agents plus support teams ain't just the management. This is the rank and file agents.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 17, 2022 04:59 PM (S1S3K)

96 That Comey/Clinton vid is a toe-tapper.

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 17, 2022 04:59 PM (zL564)

97 >>> 74 When you get the FBI defunded, you get...what, exactly.
Posted by: Darrell Harris
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We wouldnt even notice if the FBI disappeared.

Just to be intellectually honest, most local police are just traffic enforcement. Try to actually get a cop to come out and even take a report for a robbery.
Posted by: Blago at August 17, 2022 04:56 PM (PwNLq)

Other than people receiving a check - which obviously is a large number, but still - how would you even know if feralgov vanished? How long would it take before people realized the newsfaces were lying about Things Happening in DC?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 04:59 PM (llON8)

98
Who are these people (Pence/Lizard/Kinsinger) talking to? Who do they think they're talking to?

/yeah I know

They're just part of the mindf*ck. They know it, they relish it and they LOVE it.

Gonna be lit...

Posted by: Stabmaster Arson at August 17, 2022 05:00 PM (oCRf9)

99 If Pence was useful he'd be getting raided by the FBI.

Posted by: DaveA at August 17, 2022 05:00 PM (FhXTo)

100 > Pence seems to skate by without a hint of scrutiny.

I remember when the left called him a Theocratic Fascist who wanted to use conversion therapy on the gayz.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 17, 2022 05:00 PM (eyxn4)

101 Leave it to the FBI to create fear and division. Straight out of the KGB handbook.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 17, 2022 05:01 PM (lf83v)

102 The FBI is warning of calls for civil war and a dirty bomb threat against its D.C. headquarters following its raid on former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida.

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And cannibal zombie vampires! You need us to protect you from the cannibal zombie vampires!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 17, 2022 05:01 PM (FVME7)

103 What a putz.

Go away, Pence.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 17, 2022 05:01 PM (guGkK)

104 >>>Nothing of relevance. They're just dumb.
Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose)

Think the Art of War, or some such book, teaches not to underestimate your enemies. Right?

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 17, 2022 05:01 PM (tQL7r)

105 I remember when the left called him a Theocratic Fascist who wanted to use conversion therapy on the gayz.

That's before David took me to the club.

Now I love dangly blessings of liberty too

Posted by: Mike Pence in assless chaps with the boys at August 17, 2022 05:01 PM (ESjRY)

106 FBI and the Department of Homeland Security said they have seen an increase in "violent threats" against law enforcement, government officials and judges in the week since the agents executed the search warrant at Mr. Trump's residence.
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Really? Because I actually watched on TV a 100% increase of people sieging the White House with actual violence.

But they were the right-kind of insurrectionists. And by "right kind" I mean left kind.

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 05:02 PM (krQz2)

107 Yeah, don't count on Pence being arrested in his underwear or having his cell phone seized. Wonder why? Why is it he's the only one in the inner circle who hasn't been harassed. Well, him and that jackass Mulvaney.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 17, 2022 05:02 PM (S1S3K)

108 Uh oh, Sarah's not even telling us her hourly rate anymore. It must have increased to $20/hour.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 05:02 PM (llON8)

109 >>>Think the Art of War, or some such book, teaches not to underestimate your enemies. Right?

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 17, 2022 05:01 PM (tQL7r)

Sure, but we're just dealing with criminals, which are dumb. These people are not formidable without others doing their bidding. Any of them would lose an actual fight.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at August 17, 2022 05:03 PM (QYPq3)

110 I'm considered a terrorist by people that allow anarchy in the streets. People burning cities dragging people out of their vehicles and beating the shit out of them all in view of the police.

They can defund the police, defund the FBI, hell repeal the 2nd Amendment for all I care. We're criminals already so IDGAF. We're on our own because of our political beliefs and soon to be hunted down in some form or another.

Posted by: JROD at August 17, 2022 05:03 PM (0jZnq)

111 Just to be clear, the FBI are sh*t scared of someone lobbing a dirty-bomb in their general direction. Hence they must have *no* idea who could possibly have collected the materials for said bomb.

In other words, they're either lying, or they're utterly incompetent.

Or to put it another way: why do they exist?

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 05:03 PM (e+yf1)

112 Where did Pence get the idea that he is relevant in any way?

Posted by: keena at August 17, 2022 05:03 PM (RiTnx)

113 It takes 300K per year to support each FBI agent.

There are around 39000 agents with a total budget of 10.8 billion.

Posted by: MJ at August 17, 2022 05:03 PM (zwDuR)

114 Nah, I want the FBI disbanded and replaced with nothing because I do not trust our ruling class to do anything other than reconstitute an equally corrupt force as its replacement.

Even their crime lab is for shit.

And no reapplying for jobs. If someone worked as even so much as a janitor at the FBI then they should be banned from all federal employment. I want starving gangs of ex-FBI employees roaming the land like feral dogs looking for scraps to eat out of garbage cans.

An example must be made or this will never end.

Posted by: Thatch at August 17, 2022 05:03 PM (qWceQ)

115 Did Pence go to dinner with Nanzi Palzi…. ALONE?!?
Yikes Mike!

Posted by: Xtranon at August 17, 2022 05:03 PM (Sl2t+)

116 People are not insane. They acknowledge that some of the functions of the FBI are worth doing.

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Those McDonald monopoly scams are not going to solve themselves.

Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned) at August 17, 2022 05:04 PM (sX1BW)

117 Since the theme of the gathering was "politics and eggs" it seems that someone enterprising could have lobbed a few at Pence.

Eggs. Not politics.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 17, 2022 05:04 PM (guGkK)

118
People are not insane. They acknowledge that some of the functions of the FBI are worth doing.

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What are they?

What, in the history of the Bureau, has it done that justifies its existence? If you can come up with anything (I can't), does it outweigh the damage it's done since it first became a lawless police agency a century ago? Is it anything local and state police agencies couldn't have handled?

My answers are "no, no, and no."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2022 05:04 PM (IXpV7)

119 93 Was it 2015 when Gov. Pence caved on the Religious Freedom Restoration Act in Indiana? Large corps threatened to leave the state 'coz gays may not be able to marry, iirc. Eff "evangelical" Mr. Pence.
Posted by: olddog in mo, No Cheetos allowed on the 'toon at August 17, 2022 04:59 PM (ju2Fy)

Yeah I remember Angie's List made a big stink about it, saying she woundn't expand then a ton of people cancelled and she SHUT F UP after that.

I know Liberal fans in Columbus are upset that the Columbus Crew has yet to make a statement on Roe V Wade, WTF does soccer or sports have to do with sports.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at August 17, 2022 05:04 PM (cxG4V)

120 Posted by: Mike Pence at August 17, 2022 04:58 PM (ESjRY)

LOL. Hey, Mike, just don't post as much as "Sarah", ok?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 17, 2022 05:04 PM (wvo9L)

121 I don't get how these morons can't realize that all they have to say is, "Conservatives believe in law and order. The greatest threat to law and order is corruption and incompetence in law enforcement. The FBIs activities have undermined public trust, which harms our ability as a society to protect the most vulnerable."

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 17, 2022 05:04 PM (w6KZ+)

122 What, exactly, does that shitty organization do again?

Posted by: ejochs at August 17, 2022 04:45 PM (lSFMQ)

Ignore high-profile child molesters.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 04:58 PM (yHsuS)
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Also frame an innocent guy for a murder committed by a mobster related to a politician.

One of Mueller's fiendest hours.

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 05:04 PM (krQz2)

123 The regime has cleverly cast its critics as posing the most lethal to the homeland by intentionally conflating their dissenting views with "racial or ethnic animus" and/or "anti-government or anti-authority" sentiments.

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You know who else was "clever" in that way?

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 17, 2022 05:04 PM (u4gGm)

124 Uh oh, Sarah's not even telling us her hourly rate anymore. It must have increased to $20/hour.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket


Dammit, I was saving up.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 05:04 PM (e+yf1)

125 Defunding the FBI would be cruel, the way he likes it.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 17, 2022 05:04 PM (44ww/)

126 > Pence seems to skate by without a hint of scrutiny.
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Know our enemies by who the deep staters ignore (or worse, honor). Our friends, they persecute.

Pence is not our friend, obviously, so who cares what he whines about.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 17, 2022 05:05 PM (RT5m4)

127 I remember when the FIB kneeled for the BLM peaceful protestors in DC. Right then I knew what side they were on.

Posted by: Maj. Healey Will Never Consume Bugs Or Bug Parts at August 17, 2022 05:05 PM (m7R0k)

128 Mike Pence: Talking About Defunding the FBI is Just Like Talking About Defunding the Police

And here's where Mike Pence is about twenty years behind. But he's useful. He's a living, walking, talking example of why Old Paradigms die hard.

Wasn't that long ago that a Minnesota Cop shot a housewife, from within his patrol car, while aiming past his partner in the drivers seat. Do you think that particular cop should be de-funded ?

I do. And what about the video, that was shown on this blog a few years ago, of Maryland cops caught on body-camera planting evidence by pitching syringes on a crime scene ? Should they be de-funded ?

I think so. I think a whole shit-pot of police should be de-funded. De-fund their MRAPs while we're at it. De-fund whatever fund it is that pays for no-knock raids.

De-fund whatever it is that still makes some people insist "whatever it takes for that officer to make it home at night". How about he just stay home at night ? Play with the kids. Service the wife. Stop being a 24/7 solution looking for a problem.

Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 05:05 PM (UdwG8)

129 I don’t mind “Boomer” as a pejorative. What I mind is the dismissiveness of entitled little snots who say “Ok, Boomer” as a way to ignore someone who has made a serious good faith argument. I can handle being called old and out of touch. It’s the dismissiveness that makes it an asshole thing to say.

Posted by: Caiwyn at August 17, 2022 05:05 PM (+dHQK)

130 "There's a massive ... segment of the GOP that's so braindead with sentimental, heart-thumping reverence for the Heroic G-Man"

But, the X-Files, man!

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at August 17, 2022 05:05 PM (2TMLo)

131 If Jeb Bush wasn't already the Jeb Bush of GOP presidential politics, Pence would be the Jeb Bush of GOP presidential politics.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 17, 2022 05:05 PM (guGkK)

132
"No, no and yes," rather.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2022 05:05 PM (IXpV7)

133 Did anyone ever identify the unknown man who smiled and handed Pence the challenge coin immediately after removing Trump while they were both in the most secure facility in the world?

You know. Right before Pence celebrated with Pelosi.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Norway only has EVs because the government has guns at August 17, 2022 05:06 PM (+zy2u)

134 Or no. Double negative. I give up. Nevermind. Feh.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2022 05:06 PM (IXpV7)

135 Was it 2015 when Gov. Pence caved on the Religious Freedom Restoration Act in Indiana? Large corps threatened to leave the state 'coz gays may not be able to marry, iirc. Eff "evangelical" Mr. Pence.

Posted by: olddog in mo, No Cheetos allowed on the 'toon at August 17, 2022 04:59 PM (ju2Fy)
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That's what gave me the impression that Mike Pence did not have strong knees.

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 05:06 PM (krQz2)

136 They can defund the police, defund the FBI, hell repeal the 2nd Amendment for all I care. We're criminals already so IDGAF. We're on our own because of our political beliefs and soon to be hunted down in some form or another.
Posted by: JROD
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This^

And for those of us enrolled in the VA, good luck getting prompt care.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 17, 2022 05:06 PM (Gt91P)

137 Off topic, but Zero Hedge has a good article about how Bill gates had much to do with getting Biden's "inflation act" passed.

https://tinyurl.com/tvpazz6m

Posted by: Blago at August 17, 2022 05:06 PM (PwNLq)

138 Well, him and that jackass Mulvaney.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 17, 2022 05:02
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What a disappointment he turned out to be. Had high hopes for him.

Posted by: olddog in mo, No Cheetos allowed on the 'toon at August 17, 2022 05:06 PM (ju2Fy)

139 I may owe George RR Martin royalties, but we keep our powder dry through the raid, the indictment, the trial, the verdict, the sentencing, the appeal, the call for a pardon, the least minute reprieve, the axe, OH….

Posted by: Goatweed at August 17, 2022 05:07 PM (0Q/6W)

140 Pence, as VP, will be Cheney's running mate in 2024

Posted by: youbet at August 17, 2022 05:07 PM (xqmCG)

141 What, in the history of the Bureau, has it done that justifies its existence?

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Without the FBI, some benevolent man would have continued to give millions of dollars to poor people from people buying Big Macs. Now we all suffer as there is no joy in seeing if we get Park Place on our coke.

Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned) at August 17, 2022 05:07 PM (sX1BW)

142 It's highly unlikely that Pence's home will be raided or that any charges will be brought against him....

Posted by: steevy at August 17, 2022 05:07 PM (NMHe5)

143 FBI and the Department of Homeland Security said they have seen an increase in "violent threats" against law enforcement, government officials and judges in the week since the agents executed the search warrant at Mr. Trump's residence.
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Really? Because I actually watched on TV a 100% increase of people sieging the White House with actual violence.

But they were the right-kind of insurrectionists. And by "right kind" I mean left kind.
Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 05:02 PM (krQz2)

Funny how there are no names or statistics or examples. I hear this shit all the time when a liberal starts getting flack, and I believe none of it.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 17, 2022 05:07 PM (eoQWY)

144 The FBI isn't useless. They caught the fat guy who didn't bomb the Olympics.

Posted by: NCKate at August 17, 2022 05:07 PM (2oJif)

145 137 Off topic, but Zero Hedge has a good article about how Bill gates had much to do with getting Biden's "inflation act" passed.

https://tinyurl.com/tvpazz6m
Posted by: Blago at August 17, 2022 05:06 PM (PwNLq)

That's just what the voters elected Bill Gates to do.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 17, 2022 05:07 PM (Y5qcH)

146 42 In a leaked bulletin, the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security said they have seen an increase in "violent threats" against law enforcement, government officials and judges in the week since the agents executed the search warrant at Mr. Trump's residence.
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Notice no mention as to the source of the threats/ I'd say it means it's really BLM and Antifa doing the threatening against LEO, not against the FBI.

Posted by: Ciampino -- liars all of them at August 17, 2022 05:07 PM (qfLjt)

147 Ignore high-profile child molesters.
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And muslim terrorists that bomb and shoot Americans that have been on the radar for years.

Psyco teenagers that have been on the radar for years.

Deny real terrorism.

Blame Whites for everything.

But mostly serve as a protection racket for the democrat left.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 17, 2022 05:07 PM (u4CEu)

148 What, in the history of the Bureau, has it done that justifies its existence?

They just caught and arrested hundreds more human traffickers and freed a bunch of children being held by them.

So. Its not all bad stuff.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 05:08 PM (Ivdso)

149 And so of course Mike Pence -- supposedly a "religious" man, but one who gutted the religious freedom laws in his own state in order to please the left, the gay lobby, and his corporate allies (he's religious in the sheets, but not in the streets) -- comes riding to the FBI's rescue.

Mike Pence is yet another, in a long line, of nominal Christians who invent a value system and demonstrate false piety for the purpose of facilitating evil under the guise of Doing The LORD's Work™. (ref MAtthew 7:15-1

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 17, 2022 05:08 PM (3hSHB)

150 And now, a word from climate change . . .

Tom Elliott@tomselliott
Biden weather czar @ginamccarthy46 on BBB Jr.: "We had to have something big. We had to take a Big Leap Forward."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 17, 2022 05:08 PM (FVME7)

151 >>>What are they?

well, two critical functions are the VICAP thing that has all violent offenders' fingerprints and DNA on a database. Obviously that is huge. A lot of crimes are just solved by entering some information into the computer.

There's also the national crime statistics lab which doesn't solve crimes directly but which is important for trends and that kind of thing.

I know the crime labs have had a lot of scandals BUT they're important... if they are run cleanly. They do a lot of work for local jurisdictions that don't have labs.

Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 17, 2022 05:08 PM (B3oWe)

152 I forgot,

the arrest of millions of co-conspirators.

Posted by: Goatweed at August 17, 2022 05:09 PM (0Q/6W)

153 I may only be a soft core titty model who attacts the attention to men and approbation of a certain type of woman, but even I know when the FBI is out of control. I mean the head of the FBI got up and walked out of a oversight hearing because it was going to interfere with his "long- weekend" plans. Same guy's idea of reform, was additional training a 3 hour seminar. If you think the FBI is an indispensible law enforcement institution, that isn't the enforcement arm of the deep state, I got bra's smarter than you.

Posted by: Paige Spiranak at August 17, 2022 05:09 PM (B1B1h)

154 144 The FBI isn't useless. They caught the fat guy who didn't bomb the Olympics.
Posted by: NCKate at August 17, 2022 05:07 PM (2oJif)

__________________________

Since then they started providing an Uber service to known terrorists so they could shoot up a grocery store.

Posted by: Orson at August 17, 2022 05:09 PM (N0u4u)

155 Updating nic.

Posted by: ShainS -- VDH-Endorsrd-by-Proxy Connoisseur of Cruelty at August 17, 2022 05:09 PM (u4gGm)

156 "Calls to defund the FBI are just as wrong as calls to defund the police."

*dead. fucking. silence*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 17, 2022 05:09 PM (guGkK)

157 137 Off topic, but Zero Hedge has a good article about how Bill gates had much to do with getting Biden's "inflation act" passed.

https://tinyurl.com/tvpazz6m
Posted by: Blago


That sh!t makes my blood boil.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 05:09 PM (e+yf1)

158 What, in the history of the Bureau, has it done that justifies its existence? If you can come up with anything (I can't), does it outweigh the damage it's done since it first became a lawless police agency a century ago? Is it anything local and state police agencies couldn't have handled?
My answers are "no, no, and no."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2022 05:04 PM (IXpV7)


I think there can be an argument that a central clearing house of cases is needed to allow identification of cross-state-line crime, for facilitating RICO claims, out of state flight from arrest and to standardize police training in federal law.
I suspect everything else can be handled through other agencies and through the the Marshals.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 17, 2022 05:09 PM (xhaym)

159 150 And now, a word from climate change . . .

Tom Elliott@tomselliott
Biden weather czar @ginamccarthy46 on BBB Jr.: "We had to have something big. We had to take a Big Leap Forward."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 17, 2022 05:08 PM (FVME7)

At least she didn't say Final Solution.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 17, 2022 05:09 PM (Y5qcH)

160 That's just what the voters elected Bill Gates to do.

Well, those who managed to survive Bill Gates attempt to murder them with a bioweapon and a forced chemical toxin.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 17, 2022 05:10 PM (3hSHB)

161 What, in the history of the Bureau, has it done that justifies its existence?

They just caught and arrested hundreds more human traffickers and freed a bunch of children being held by them.

So. Its not all bad stuff.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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So like lawyers only 95% of what the FIB does gives the FIB a bad name.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 17, 2022 05:10 PM (u4CEu)

162 Mike Pence?

I thought you were tired of dick jokes, Ace.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 17, 2022 05:10 PM (sWM8x)

163 Is Pence still investigating the FIB office in FL that dropped the ball on the Parkland shooter? I'm sure his report and recommendations are forthcoming. (spit) I wouldn't piss on Pence if he was on fire.

Posted by: Maj. Healey Will Never Consume Bugs Or Bug Parts at August 17, 2022 05:10 PM (m7R0k)

164 Pence's oratory has always given me really bad acting weasel vibes. Always. Shitbird, like the rest of the shitbirds.

Posted by: micky at August 17, 2022 05:10 PM (3byMq)

165 Dammit.

Posted by: ShainS -- VDH-Endorsed-by-Proxy Connoisseur of Cruelty at August 17, 2022 05:10 PM (u4gGm)

166 My guess is that they are very confident that the " new" military will do their bidding when armed resistance would occur. They have worked diligently to achieve that end.

Posted by: kraken at August 17, 2022 05:10 PM (Vr12I)

167 58 Who is Mike Pence's audience exactly?

The same as Liz Cheyney’s audience.

Posted by: 7man at August 17, 2022 05:10 PM (qwO6y)

168 As a Michigander, I do have to credit the FIB for trying to fednap my governor.

If only they had meant it.

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 05:10 PM (krQz2)

169 The FBI isn't useless. They caught the fat guy who didn't bomb the Olympics.
Posted by: NCKate at August 17, 2022 05:07 PM (2oJif)



They also nailed Stephen Hatfill before he could mail more anthrax spores to people and stuff.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 17, 2022 05:10 PM (guGkK)

170 What are they?

What, in the history of the Bureau, has it done that justifies its existence? If you can come up with anything (I can't), does it outweigh the damage it's done since it first became a lawless police agency a century ago? Is it anything local and state police agencies couldn't have handled?

My answers are "no, no, and no."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2022 05:04 PM (IXpV7)

They did manage to snip that conspiracy of B list TV actresses getting sports scholarships to second rate universities in the bud. We can all rest easier that the kids of famous people now get no preferences in getting into tony schools.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 17, 2022 05:10 PM (eoQWY)

171 I don’t mind “Boomer” as a pejorative.

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I rail against the Boomers quite a bit. There are many a good Boomer. The problem is they are a rather large, influential and wealthy voting block who came of age under a political coalition that no longer exists and no longer works. I understand in their golden years, they wish to preserve their wealth and not take part in a political reconstruction. They have faith in a government that no longer exists. It is hard to shake 60 years of conditioning. But a disruption that has been building is coming regardless. The sooner they lose influence, the sooner we can get on with it.

Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned) at August 17, 2022 05:11 PM (sX1BW)

172
They just caught and arrested hundreds more human traffickers and freed a bunch of children being held by them.

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Sure. Could that have been handled by a local police agency? Yes. Could it have been handled by the US Marshals or Secret Service? Also, yes.

We already had a couple of federal police agencies (in my opinion, two too many) before them. They have always been goons. An answer in search of a question. And they need to be gone.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2022 05:11 PM (IXpV7)

173 Who is Mike Pence's audience exactly?
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Dollah bills, y'all!

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 05:11 PM (krQz2)

174 The "hypocrisy" charge leveled at the Republican base from so-called R's is a "tell". Noem went straight to it when she got criticized. They can't help themselves. It's one step up from racist and sexisr, which is what they are also ready to say.

Posted by: ... at August 17, 2022 05:11 PM (dscaa)

175 Speaking of Hillary and classified documents....


Did the FBI ever raid her office to make sure they got all those background check reports on practically every politician in DC back in 1996? Did they ever determine how they mysteriously come into her possession


Spoiler Alert: No

Posted by: Ripley at August 17, 2022 05:11 PM (MxEKc)

176 There's also the national crime statistics lab which doesn't solve crimes directly but which is important for trends and that kind of thing.

*

Ha. Yeah, the folks that don't have a "Hispanic" offender column, only a white one. So that all Hispanic gangbangers are counted as white.

But they do have a "Hispanic" victim column.

Great work done in that department.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Norway only has EVs because the government has guns at August 17, 2022 05:11 PM (+zy2u)

177 Hey Sarah! Can I borrow a hunnert? I'll pay ya back next week. Swearsies!

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at August 17, 2022 05:11 PM (1DgE4)

178 I suspect everything else can be handled through other agencies and through the the Marshals.

Congress writes the guidelines, then private third party companies can bid to perform the work on contract.

There is zero need for the FBI.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 17, 2022 05:11 PM (3hSHB)

179 Folks, we're talking about Mike Pence. Yeah, maybe he doesn't allow himself to be in a room, alone, with a woman.

He's also the dude that got caught, straight up, making mortgage and car payments from his campaign funds as a State Rep. Just google it. Search "Mike Pence mortgage". Hell, you don't even have to type it. Just copy and paste from this post.

Real straight shooter, that Mike Pence.

Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 05:11 PM (UdwG8)

180 >>>The "hypocrisy" charge leveled at the Republican base from so-called R's is a "tell". Noem went straight to it when she got criticized. They can't help themselves. It's one step up from racist and sexisr, which is what they are also ready to say.

+ + + + +

YAASSSS

Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 17, 2022 05:12 PM (B3oWe)

181 What, in the history of the Bureau, has it done that justifies its existence?

They were pretty good at pretending a mass assassination attempt by a Bernie supporter wasn’t terrorism. That’s really hard to do with a straight face.

Posted by: Kratwurst at August 17, 2022 05:12 PM (nIRE6)

182 LOL. On the Five Sean Duffy just said, "I've worked with Liz Cheney and she's a drip."

Posted by: redridinghood at August 17, 2022 05:12 PM (NpAcC)

183 Boy, Mikey Pence turned out to be a real road apple.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 17, 2022 05:12 PM (Xrfse)

184 The FBI isn't useless. They caught the fat guy who didn't bomb the Olympics.
Posted by: NCKate at August 17, 2022 05:07 PM (2oJif)


They also nailed Stephen Hatfill before he could mail more anthrax spores to people and stuff.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43)
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You sure about that or is that yet another lie from the FIB.

I do know they faked lab results to put thousands of innocent people in prison.... that's good right?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 17, 2022 05:12 PM (u4CEu)

185 So like lawyers only 95% of what the FIB does gives the FIB a bad name.

Pretty much. They have don SOME good stuff over the years, but how much good stuff do you have to do, to justify burning children to death in the Branch Davidian compound? Shooting a woman to death in front of her family? All the crap they are doing now?

Even if you could point at 95% of what the FBI has done is all white hat great stuff, does that overcome the bad?

If we demand our cops not be bent or in any way abuse their power, how much more so should we hold the "incorruptible best of the best" cops accounable?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 05:12 PM (Ivdso)

186 The Washington Times calls that joker a "Federal Judge". He is not a Federal Judge. He was never nominated by a President nor approved by the Senate. He was approved by actual Federal Judges to do their shity little jobs.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 17, 2022 05:12 PM (Y5qcH)

187 Maybe Pence could council that cvnt Sinema giving up the pink taco lunches?

Posted by: Maj. Healey Will Never Consume Bugs Or Bug Parts at August 17, 2022 05:12 PM (m7R0k)

188 Where did Pence get the idea that he is relevant in any way?

Posted by: keena at August 17, 2022 05:03 PM


I still maintain that pence was the 25th amendment insurance policy. He was supposed to start the ball rolling by wearing a wire meeting with Trump if by some reason Trump had won the election.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 17, 2022 05:13 PM (bVYXr)

189
What are they?

What, in the history of the Bureau, has it done that justifies its existence? If you can come up with anything (I can't), does it outweigh the damage it's done since it first became a lawless police agency a century ago? Is it anything local and state police agencies couldn't have handled?

My answers are "no, no, and no."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2022 05:04 PM (IXpV7)

Their only major accomplishment I can think of was their spying on the communists in the state department and elsewhere in the government(Venona project). Ultimately I'm not sure how much positive effect this had, but there was some internal awareness of the degree of USSR infiltration into the government.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 17, 2022 05:13 PM (b2nrj)

190 Well, shoot. I guess Pence doesn't read this blog, or he would have known the reasoning behind the calls. Or heck, he probably doesn't read anything that would challenge his worldview.

I guess he just sticks to National Review and Hugh Hewitt.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 17, 2022 05:13 PM (fs1hN)

191 "And right now, we don't have the rule of law in Washington," said Hanson. "Whether you're targeted or exempt depends on your ideology."
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I would argue "usefulness".

Posted by: ... at August 17, 2022 05:13 PM (dscaa)

192 It's hard to care about anything Pence says anymore. Whatever influence he may have once had is long gone, he's just another Punch and Judy puppet that the deep state is sticking out there because they think some of us still might listen to him.

Newsflash - We don't. Just look what his endorsement did for Liz Cheney. Pence is finished, he's nothing, he's a forgotten footnote in a book no one will read.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 17, 2022 05:13 PM (trdmm)

193 The sooner they lose influence, the sooner we can get on with it.

Its the Boomers who are holding society together from the damage Millennials and Zoomers have in store.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 17, 2022 05:14 PM (3hSHB)

194 >>>182 LOL. On the Five Sean Duffy just said, "I've worked with Liz Cheney and she's a drip."

file this under Not Breaking News, lol

Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 17, 2022 05:14 PM (B3oWe)

195 The GOP is going to go ALL IN on this. They will back the FBI to the hilt in your back. Bet on it.

Posted by: TheMitch at August 17, 2022 05:14 PM (cDITE)

196 The FBI are the good guys. They are on our team. Straight shooters. So some laws were broken and they let many terrorists and muslim shooters carry out their plans... eggs omelettes.

Posted by: Mike Penis at August 17, 2022 05:14 PM (u4CEu)

197 I do not think that there is a particular generation that can be pointed to as the one that will " fix" things. The societal decay we live in is far to pervasive.

Posted by: kraken at August 17, 2022 05:14 PM (Vr12I)

198 Pence. Remember when many here called him Race Bannon???



Yeah, you can include me. I'll admit it, I was duped..

Posted by: Archer at August 17, 2022 05:14 PM (gmo/4)

199 "Because they support antifa and BLM using violence to push the country to the political left."

People overlook this aspect: Antifa and BLM are STATE-SPONSORED TERROR, no different in any appreciable way within our borders than the Iranian Revolutionary Guard. A good argument can be made the FBI itself has become not just a state sponsor of terror but a domestic terrorist organization. This is particularly true after their criminal behavior in the Whitmer kidfaking.

As for Pence, I will reup what I posted previously. Womanizing Trump did more to secure religious liberty and did not back down from that in four years than Pence did in a lifetime of Cuckservative Christian Conservatism posturing in office and on the radio, and the one time he did anything of substance he melted down under pressure and immediately made the situation worse for religious people. Religious people know this.

Until enough people have enough authority and control enough purse strings, the FBI and the BoomerCons who support it will continue to be a domestic menace perfectly capable of mass murder. They have a history already.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 17, 2022 05:14 PM (nMx88)

200 Their only major accomplishment I can think of was their spying on the communists in the state department and elsewhere in the government(Venona project). Ultimately I'm not sure how much positive effect this had, but there was some internal awareness of the degree of USSR infiltration into the government.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 17, 2022 05:13 PM (b2nrj)

So they just counted them rather than stopping them? Because the Soviets got a lot of information from them over the years.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 17, 2022 05:15 PM (eoQWY)

201 Do reporters ever ask Pence is he feels the FBI are above reproach? Or specifically ask him about the 14+ agents and assets that set the the Gretchen kidnapping plot, where a jury found 2 were clearly entrapped, the other two maybe.

FBI is part Gestapo, but the also run propaganda ops like that to "prove" Trump is dangerous, his voters are white supremacists -- but all praise for Dem Senator Byrd, good friend of Hillary and Biden, Grand Master of the KKK ... or whatever the title was.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 17, 2022 05:15 PM (Cus5s)

202 I disagree. Dissolve the whole fucking corrupt mess. Start from scratch and place no enforcement within the organization. Let the US Marshalls take over enforcement.

Posted by: FBI - Top Men at August 17, 2022 05:15 PM (QSjkU)

203 The also did a "child sexual trafficking" roundup. They seem to do that whenever they screw up.

My question is this - If they have a nation wide roundup, that must mean it is a nation wide network. But it never is, it is a bunch of small cases that they move on all at once to make it look big and important. Usually just parental disputes having nothing to do with trafficking.

Further, if they are not connected, then why wait and do it all at once? Why is no one in media or oversight committees asking these questions.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 17, 2022 05:15 PM (+Ff94)

204 I didn't know Mike Pence was still alive

Posted by: Skip at August 17, 2022 05:15 PM (k8B25)

205 Pence is shut a weasely little shithead

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 17, 2022 05:15 PM (gbzeC)

206 Pence still doesn't realize that we put up with his bullshit because Trump picked him. He's like the kid you pick for your sports team because you want to pork his sister.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 17, 2022 05:15 PM (S1S3K)

207 Where else would a guy with a name like Ephram Zimblast work?

Posted by: DaveA at August 17, 2022 05:15 PM (FhXTo)

208 If you think the FBI is an indispensible law enforcement institution, that isn't the enforcement arm of the deep state, I got bra's smarter than you.
Posted by: Paige Spiranak at August 17, 2022 05:09 PM (B1B1h)


Did someone leave the door open again?

Posted by: Kindltot at August 17, 2022 05:15 PM (xhaym)

209 Crap. Sock off

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 17, 2022 05:16 PM (QSjkU)

210 200 Their only major accomplishment I can think of was their spying on the communists in the state department and elsewhere in the government(Venona project). Ultimately I'm not sure how much positive effect this had, but there was some internal awareness of the degree of USSR infiltration into the government.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 17, 2022 05:13 PM (b2nrj)

So they just counted them rather than stopping them? Because the Soviets got a lot of information from them over the years.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 17, 2022 05:15 PM (eoQWY)

A few spies were dealt with(Rosenbergs famously), but yeah on balance it looks more like a "security monitor" than "security guard" thing.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 17, 2022 05:16 PM (b2nrj)

211 And right now, we don't have the rule of law in Washington," said Hanson. "Whether you're targeted or exempt depends on your ideology."
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I would argue "usefulness".
Posted by: ... at August 17, 2022 05:13 PM (dscaa)


When they come for VDH, it's over.

And he knows it.

Brave man.

Posted by: Golfman at August 17, 2022 05:16 PM (rhXTS)

212 How come the, ah, smart set, which perpetually plants a flag on the summit of MOUNT NUANCED THINKING, never demonstrates any nuanced thinking.

No question mark needed.

Posted by: Colonel Travis at August 17, 2022 05:16 PM (Cgo1x)

213 "Crap sock"?

That does not sound sanitary.

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 05:16 PM (krQz2)

214 The biggest black eyes for the FBI are 9/11 and Two Coups against a sitting Presidents.


Each and every G-Man needs to be trebucheted into the Marianas Trench.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 17, 2022 05:17 PM (WgimQ)

215 Its the Boomers who are holding society together from the damage Millennials and Zoomers have in store.
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Lol.

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at August 17, 2022 05:17 PM (x2enk)

216 I do not think that there is a particular generation that can be pointed to as the one that will " fix" things. The societal decay we live in is far to pervasive.

Posted by: kraken at August 17, 2022 05:14 PM (Vr12I)


Oh, I could fix things if I had the power, but you'd not like the skulls. The millions and millions of skulls I would need to take to fix things.

Posted by: Archer at August 17, 2022 05:17 PM (gmo/4)

217 Christopher Wray's haircut irritates me.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 17, 2022 05:17 PM (eGTCV)

218 202 I disagree. Dissolve the whole fucking corrupt mess. Start from scratch and place no enforcement within the organization. Let the US Marshalls take over enforcement.
Posted by: FBI

agree.
Most of what they do is already covered by state laws, or should be and could be. They always want in on big cases for expense account travel to field offices and publicity.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 17, 2022 05:17 PM (+Ff94)

219 If Pence was useful he'd be getting raided by the FBI.

Posted by: DaveA at August 17, 2022 05:00 PM (FhXTo)

The Ray Epps treatment.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 05:17 PM (yHsuS)

220 How come the, ah, smart set, which perpetually plants a flag on the summit of MOUNT NUANCED THINKING, never demonstrates any nuanced thinking.

Posted by: Colonel Travis at August 17, 2022 05:16 PM (Cgo1x)
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I've been wondering that a long time.

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 05:17 PM (krQz2)

221 Leaving soiled diapers in the J Edgar Hoover building is a biological warfare attack.

Posted by: torabora at August 17, 2022 05:17 PM (Y274z)

222 They did manage to snip that conspiracy of B list TV actresses getting sports scholarships to second rate universities in the bud. We can all rest easier that the kids of famous people now get no preferences in getting into tony schools.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 17, 2022 05:10
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Ok, that was funny. You owe me a keyboard.

Posted by: olddog in mo, No Cheetos allowed on the 'toon at August 17, 2022 05:17 PM (ju2Fy)

223
At least she didn't say Final Solution.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 17, 2022 05:09 PM (Y5qcH)


The Great Leap Forward is essentially the Ukrainian Holodomor.
With home-brew bessamer forges.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 17, 2022 05:17 PM (xhaym)

224 Did the FBI ever raid her office to make sure they got all those background check reports on practically every politician in DC back in 1996? Did they ever determine how they mysteriously come into her possession
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Calm down. We didn't have to. We gave those copies to her to begin with.

Posted by: The FBI at August 17, 2022 05:17 PM (D2DRG)

225 Take away the FBI's guns. Let them be the bureau that investigates. But no guns.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 17, 2022 05:17 PM (WHt4f)

226 I am surprised that VDH has not been bounced out of Stanford.

Posted by: kraken at August 17, 2022 05:17 PM (Vr12I)

227 I do not think that there is a particular generation that can be pointed to as the one that will " fix" things. The societal decay we live in is far to pervasive.

Posted by: kraken at August 17, 2022 05:14 PM (Vr12I)


That's the problem. The current situation doesn't need "fixing". It needs broken. Destroyed. Removed.

That's not a thing that fits in the standard Conservative mentality. Because Conservatives do live to fix things. Even things that people don't want fixed.

Give it time. Contemporary Conservatives will try to fix ObamaCare. Not destroy it. Fix it.

Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 05:18 PM (UdwG8)

228 Oh, I could fix things if I had the power, but you'd not like the skulls. The millions and millions of skulls I would need to take to fix things.

Posted by: Archer at August 17, 2022 05:17 PM (gmo/4)

Maybe the Aztecs were on to something. Making mountains of the skulls of your enemy sure does keep people in line.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 17, 2022 05:18 PM (Y5qcH)

229 The bulletin warned of talk to place a dirty bomb in front of FBI headquarters."

The talk that they heard was in the FBI break room, where one agent said to the other agents, "hey wouldn't it be cool if we put a little dirty bomb type thing on our own doorstep so we could use it to go after everyone who's criticizing us? Hey Joe, you handled those Jan 6 pipebombs nicely, whaddya think about throwing something together for us?"

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 17, 2022 05:18 PM (trdmm)

230 I suspect that the older you are, the more likely you are to believe that the FBI is incorruptible super cops who are filled to the brim with equal parts integrity and a steely-eyed determination to see justice. Because that's what we all grew up with seeing and hearing for our entire lives, except for a very few exceptions like Die Hard.

For someone like Pence, its going to be awfully hard to give that up, especially since he's probably a super hard core law and order guy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 05:18 PM (Ivdso)

231 Pence is in Big Pharma's vest pocket. He rolled out warp speed like it was life or death for him. I still believe he was the instigator/spy for the entire covid op.

Posted by: Maj. Healey Will Never Consume Bugs Or Bug Parts at August 17, 2022 05:18 PM (m7R0k)

232 A few spies were dealt with(Rosenbergs famously), but yeah on balance it looks more like a "security monitor" than "security guard" thing.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 17, 2022 05:16 PM (b2nrj)

Glorified hall monitors.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 05:18 PM (yHsuS)

233 Heh

Starbucks Demands Federal Labor Board to Suspend Union Elections, Alleging Widespread Mail-in Ballot Fraud

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 17, 2022 05:18 PM (gbzeC)

234 What, in the history of the Bureau, has it done that justifies its existence?

And while we could still see the ash plume of the former Branch Davidians in the sky, they somehow lost control over the OKC incident and two of the Ray Epps prototypes of that event were into the wind.

Does anyone still care about the Las Vegas slaughter?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 17, 2022 05:18 PM (3hSHB)

235 Some of you are comparing the FBI to the Gestapo or the NKVD but I think they are the Stasi. No doubt Stasi.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 17, 2022 05:19 PM (u4CEu)

236 Mike, listen, we have pictures of you having lunch with a woman who is not your wife. Sure, she's your cousin, but who's gonna believe that? Or they'll think you had an affair with your cousin. Hunter all of a sudden doesn't look like an outlier now, does he? You need us, z'all I'm sayin'.

Posted by: FIB at August 17, 2022 05:19 PM (fs1hN)

237 this generational bullshit is as tiresome as the southern superiority bullshit.

EABoD

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at August 17, 2022 05:19 PM (1DgE4)

238 Pence, a true visionary. And such courage! What a leader.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 17, 2022 05:19 PM (H8QX8)

239 I do know they faked lab results to put thousands of innocent people in prison.... that's good right?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 17, 2022 05:12 PM (u4CEu)

Fabricating fiber and bite mark evidence got so out of hand a federal judge or two made them stop. There were no punishments meted out.

Given the craven nature of the national Republican Party, it is best to encourage governors and local officials simply to order local law enforcement not to cooperate with the FBI in any appreciable manner. Given the FBI, in addition to rampant corruption and political meddling, also is incompetent, that's a pretty easy thing to do anyhow.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 17, 2022 05:19 PM (nMx88)

240 3 Willowed:

Influencing pays better.

Posted by: quantum mechanic

Doing some Only Fans research - for real - and some of those chicks clear $100K a month or more. Most, enough to support a daily latte habit.

Posted by: Comrade flounder



There is a reason Paige Spiranac never made much effort to play on the LPGA. She makes more money doing what she is doing now. Good for her. FYI, her mother is a very attractive woman. I know that from Outkick, who keep up with important information like that.

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 17, 2022 05:20 PM (sAmhv)

241 Who is Mike Pence's audience exactly?

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Arrogant Dunning–Kruger effect sufferers.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 17, 2022 05:20 PM (FVME7)

242
Ultimately I'm not sure how much positive effect this had, but there was some internal awareness of the degree of USSR infiltration into the government.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 17, 2022 05:13 PM (b2nrj)

Most of that came from Army intel anyway.

Which also highlights another question: just why in the fuck was any federal police agency formed in the first place?

The US government has an Army, after all. Every State has a National Guard. If a given State's crime problem wildly exceeds the grasp of its own executive enforcement arms, it has Constitutionally sanctioned forces it can call upon to reassert lawful order.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2022 05:20 PM (IXpV7)

243 Defund treasonous Mike Pence

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 17, 2022 05:20 PM (XvPQV)

244 Did the FIB ever find out why the Democrat IT team of the Anwars were found infiltrating Senate Republican servers?

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 05:20 PM (krQz2)

245 The FBI did a better job covering up for who killed JFK than they did in actually stopping the hit.

Posted by: torabora at August 17, 2022 05:20 PM (Y274z)

246 It's pretty funny Pence thinks he is still relevant.

Posted by: sidney at August 17, 2022 05:20 PM (Uy/WF)

247 Fucking FBI must be de-nazified. The only solution is complete dissolution. Any lesser measures invite regrowth of the fucking tumor. It must be completely annihilated. We must administer a full course of radiation treatment.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 17, 2022 05:20 PM (QSjkU)

248 200 Their only major accomplishment I can think of was their spying on the communists in the state department and elsewhere in the government(Venona project).

***

Meh. I bet they ran it the same way they ran Whitey Bulgur.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 17, 2022 05:20 PM (gbzeC)

249 179 Search "Mike Pence mortgage".
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat


I did:

"When news broke before the election, Pence stood by his spending habits. He had taken a significant pay cut when he backed away from his job as a lawyer to run for office, he claimed."

Lol, another one like Crenshaw:

"I could get paid more elsewhere so it's ok to pay my mortgage from my campaign/insider trade/..."

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 05:21 PM (e+yf1)

250 Defund treasonous Mike Pence
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 17, 2022 05:20 PM (XvPQV)
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Ignore Mike Pence.

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 05:21 PM (krQz2)

251 >>> 233 Heh

Starbucks Demands Federal Labor Board to Suspend Union Elections, Alleging Widespread Mail-in Ballot Fraud
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 17, 2022 05:18 PM (gbzeC)

This just keeps getting better.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 05:21 PM (llON8)

252 Oh, good, are we going to have the Boomers/Non Boomers fights again? Can we follow that with Civil War/War of Northern Aggression/ fight? And let us try to get in the religious wars fight again-Catholic vs Non Cathloc Christian.Make it a 666 post or more,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 17, 2022 05:21 PM (wvo9L)

253 FBI lies about the raid, off the top of my head:
Local DC office, not approved by Wrey; WH not involved; Garland approved, but not Wrey
Classified docs; Nuclear secret docs
Showed warrent to occupants; Attorney "on site"
Incomplete inventory; Passport "not currently in possession"
Sealed warrent and affidavit; Agreed to unseal, objecting to unsealing affidavit
Prompted by surveillance footage; Waiting 3 days to execute warrent
Selecting a magistrate judge by applying late on a Friday
Say they wanted to keep secret
General warrent, instead of specific

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 17, 2022 05:21 PM (Zf0+a)

254 The FBI looked for Eric Rudolph in the NC woods for over five years. He was finally caught by a rookie police officer on night patrol.

Posted by: NCKate at August 17, 2022 05:21 PM (2oJif)

255 this generational bullshit is as tiresome as the southern superiority bullshit.

EABoD

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at August 17, 2022 05:19 PM (1DgE4)

You're circumcised, aren't you.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 05:22 PM (yHsuS)

256 If the FBIN is honest, why does their story keep changing?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 17, 2022 05:22 PM (Zf0+a)

257 And I'm also ok with destroying the FBI and the other IC branches and replacing them with...nothing.

I'll take the hit so long as the shadow government no longer runs things. There is no external enemy more dangerous than our own 'protectors' deciding to run our lives for us.

Fuck them all.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 17, 2022 05:22 PM (XvPQV)

258 The biggest black eyes for the FBI are 9/11 and Two Coups against a sitting Presidents.
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Three strikes you're out.

Posted by: Them's the rulz at August 17, 2022 05:22 PM (mf6Cg)

259 I always found it a bit suspicious that seemingly the one person in the Trump administration who was never targeted by the left or their allies in the deep state was Pence.

Trump was colluding with Russia to rig the election but Pence knew nothing about it? Oh, ok.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 17, 2022 05:22 PM (ZLI7S)

260 "Connoisseur of Cruelty Victor David Hanson disagrees with Pence"

Heh, ISWYDT

Posted by: lowandslow at August 17, 2022 05:22 PM (qH6FZ)

261 Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 17, 2022
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No es una noticia de última hora, pero el señor Mike Pence también es un goteo.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 17, 2022 05:22 PM (NpAcC)

262 Take away the FBI's guns. Let them be the bureau that investigates. But no guns.

So you trust their crime lab skillz?

They need to go away. Perhaps a role of an interstate coordinator to deal with state-line crossing crimes. At any rate, the only one with guns at a crime scene or serving an arrest or search warrant should be state licensed peace officers, never a fed regardless of agency.

I want accountability, and there is absolutely no one watching the Watchmen.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 17, 2022 05:22 PM (3hSHB)

263 I may only be a soft core titty model who attacts the attention to men and approbation of a certain type of woman, but even I know when the FBI is out of control. I mean the head of the FBI got up and walked out of a oversight hearing because it was going to interfere with his "long- weekend" plans. Same guy's idea of reform, was additional training a 3 hour seminar. If you think the FBI is an indispensible law enforcement institution, that isn't the enforcement arm of the deep state, I got bra's smarter than you.
Posted by: Paige Spiranak
_____________________

Hey there Paige, don't make me release the full tape:

https://tinyurl.com/bddjcbx6

Posted by: Mike Pence at August 17, 2022 05:22 PM (es0Dj)

264 I bet they ran it the same way they ran Whitey Bulgur.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 17, 2022 05:20 PM (gbzeC)


MK Ultra?

Posted by: Archer at August 17, 2022 05:23 PM (gmo/4)

265 "Christopher Wray's haircut irritates me."

his hair was perfect ... that is werewolf Wray ... smiles and looks almost normal, but in secret is a killer and destroyer of innocents. ... He'll rip your lungs out Jim ... hey, I'd like to meet his taylor.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 17, 2022 05:23 PM (Cus5s)

266 Christopher Wray's haircut irritates me.

That makes two of us. Someone skinned a wolverine and glued the pelt to his melon.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 17, 2022 05:23 PM (Xrfse)

267 I suspect that the older you are, the more likely you are to believe that the FBI is incorruptible super cops who are filled to the brim with equal parts integrity and a steely-eyed determination to see justice. Because that's what we all grew up with seeing and hearing for our entire lives, except for a very few exceptions like Die Hard.

Hence the statement ... Boomers. I guess, in fairness, I should also say Silents.

Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 05:23 PM (UdwG8)

268 this generational bullshit is as tiresome as the southern superiority bullshit.

EABoD
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at August 17, 2022 05:19 PM (1DgE4


Millennials vs Boomers.

Tennessee vs Massachusetts.

Go on.

Posted by: Golfman at August 17, 2022 05:23 PM (rhXTS)

269 The FBI elevated bite mark forensics to something approaching the validity of palm reading, then used it to obtain an untold number of convictions.

So there's that.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 17, 2022 05:23 PM (sWM8x)

270 255

You're circumcised, aren't you.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 05:22 PM (yHsuS)

What does religion have to do with it?

Posted by: kraken at August 17, 2022 05:23 PM (Vr12I)

271 Childrin of coler were the biggist losers in that "REDNECK" Whyoming place yesterday with the loss of Liz Chainey .

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at August 17, 2022 05:23 PM (4eN6q)

272 I said from Day 1, I thought Pence was "given" to Trump. Maybe on a list with two or three other names. Never trusted the bastard. The pick was good from an appearances perspective but that was all. I didn't like how he had crumbled as governor and I always likened the pick to Reagan and Bush.

But at times he seemed loyal to Trump, even though I always questioned it, right here on these pages. Then again I'm pretty skeptical of every one of these political jerks.

Posted by: ... at August 17, 2022 05:23 PM (dscaa)

273 FBI finally caught the Unibomber....after his brother turned his ass in.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 17, 2022 05:23 PM (QSjkU)

274 I'll take the hit so long as the shadow government no longer runs things. There is no external enemy more dangerous than our own 'protectors' deciding to run our lives for us.
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Abraham Lincoln couldn't have said it better.

Posted by: Babe ra'ham Lincoln Cheney at August 17, 2022 05:23 PM (mf6Cg)

275 Every generation is damaged by sin and in need of Christ to help us move past those problems. No one can point at another as worse, or better, its just a question of bad in what ways.

That said, boomers did give us Yoko Ono and Disco...

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 05:23 PM (Ivdso)

276 The FBI let all of those Russian spies in to the Manhattan Project. Top. Notch. Men. The best.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 17, 2022 05:24 PM (u4CEu)

277 Pence, so soon after pride Month?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty of BAD TRUMPY MANS! at August 17, 2022 05:24 PM (ci2FH)

278 People keep saying Pence can EABOD, but he has to run that by his wife first and check her calendar to make sure she can attend. It's really not up to him.

Posted by: Mishdog at August 17, 2022 05:24 PM (pK/3W)

279 252 Oh, good, are we going to have the Boomers/Non Boomers fights again? Can we follow that with Civil War/War of Northern Aggression/ fight? And let us try to get in the religious wars fight again-Catholic vs Non Cathloc Christian.Make it a 666 post or more,
Posted by: FenelonSpoke


You forgot the Foreskin Wars.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 05:24 PM (e+yf1)

280 In fairness, the FBI has a big bust under its belt: B List Hollywood actors and actresses who lied to get their kids into college. Does that offset the political persecution, mass murder, spying for foreign enemies, etc.? Probably not.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 17, 2022 05:24 PM (nMx88)

281 >>> Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 05:24 PM (e+yf1)

There's a long list and we were here before most of it.

Posted by: 9mm vs .45 at August 17, 2022 05:25 PM (llON8)

282
I rail against the Boomers quite a bit. There are many a good Boomer. The problem is they are a rather large, influential and wealthy voting block who came of age under a political coalition that no longer exists and no longer works. I understand in their golden years, they wish to preserve their wealth and not take part in a political reconstruction. They have faith in a government that no longer exists. It is hard to shake 60 years of conditioning. But a disruption that has been building is coming regardless. The sooner they lose influence, the sooner we can get on with it.
Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned) at August 17, 2022 05:11 PM (sX1BW)

Good grief. If it weren't for the boomers the Hilddbeast would have become president.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 17, 2022 05:25 PM (Qhnrt)

283 YD, posse comitatus?

Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2022 05:25 PM (geRMl)

284 MK Ultra?
Posted by: Archer at August 17, 2022 05:23 PM (gmo/4)

I was thinking more along the lines of letting informants manipulate them

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 17, 2022 05:25 PM (gbzeC)

285 The FBI has solved two cases in the past 20 years:

1. The McDonalds scammer who was also giving money to poor people to make rich.

2. The Full House college admission scandal to get a minor social influencer into a prestigious university that has millions (er, billions) in an endowment.

I fail to see why my tax dollars were used on either.

Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned) at August 17, 2022 05:25 PM (sX1BW)

286 Pence is saying he might agree to appear before Jan. 6 committee

Posted by: redridinghood at August 17, 2022 05:25 PM (NpAcC)

287 It's pretty funny Pence thinks he is still relevant.

Posted by: sidney at August 17, 2022 05:20 PM (Uy/WF)

Pence is relevant. He is Trump's former friend and ally. The reasonable and fair inside guy who just thinks it all went too far.

Posted by: ... at August 17, 2022 05:26 PM (dscaa)

288 I will say this... The fib snipers are pretty good

Posted by: Randy Weaver at August 17, 2022 05:26 PM (flINI)

289 I suspect that the older you are more TV you watch, the more likely you are to believe that the FBI is incorruptible super cops who are filled to the brim with equal parts integrity and a steely-eyed determination to see justice. Because that's what we all grew up with seeing and hearing for our entire lives, except for a very few exceptions like Die Hard.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 17, 2022 05:26 PM (3hSHB)

290 Maybe the Aztecs were on to something. Making mountains of the skulls of your enemy sure does keep people in line.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 17, 2022 05:18 PM (Y5qcH)


Not really, all their opponents rose up the second they started to wobble. The Aztecs were hated by the other societies they dominated, and by their own people.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 17, 2022 05:27 PM (xhaym)

291 The US government has an Army, after all. Every State has a National Guard. If a given State's crime problem wildly exceeds the grasp of its own executive enforcement arms, it has Constitutionally sanctioned forces it can call upon to reassert lawful order.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2022 05:20 PM (IXpV7)

Prohibition. Had to defend to the death the Democrat Wilson's moral legislation even after the war emergency that 'justified' it.

And yes, you could make a team specific to one job, and whose remit runs out and the team is disbanded.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 17, 2022 05:27 PM (eoQWY)

292 In 2025 Trump should list Quatico as FOR RENT/LEASE.. Let the Top Notch investigators figure out the rest.

Posted by: Maj. Healey Will Never Consume Bugs Or Bug Parts at August 17, 2022 05:27 PM (m7R0k)

293 I just consider Pence dead and nothing to do with him

Posted by: Skip at August 17, 2022 05:27 PM (k8B25)

294 288 I will say this... The fib snipers are pretty good
Posted by: Randy Weaver at August 17, 2022 05:26 PM (flINI)

I've seen better shots in Corsicana. They don't aim at people, though.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 17, 2022 05:27 PM (trdmm)

295 My kids are absolutely convinced I'm a product of mind control experiments from my military experiences during the cold war.


Either that, or I'm an unused cold war Soviet Deep plant.


It's fun to mess with their minds.

Posted by: Archer at August 17, 2022 05:27 PM (gmo/4)

296 Hey there Paige, don't make me release the full tape:

https://tinyurl.com/bddjcbx6

Posted by: Mike Pence
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Listen "Mike". Um, pretty sure you're going to turn me down, since you won't eat dinner with a woman not your wife, but how's about we play a game of skins on the front nine. The loser has to play the back nine completely naked.

Posted by: Paige Spiranak at August 17, 2022 05:27 PM (4Jc5g)

297 There should be a special prosecutor set up to review in detail every FBI agent who has been with them for more than a year. And I mean index finger up the ass review. Then long prison terms in a federal supermax. General population not isolation.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 17, 2022 05:28 PM (QSjkU)

298 Not really, all their opponents rose up the second they started to wobble. The Aztecs were hated by the other societies they dominated, and by their own people.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 17, 2022 05:27 PM (xhaym)

That's because they ATE their people. Tends to raise that blood pressure.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 17, 2022 05:28 PM (eoQWY)

299 The FBI jumped on the PR bandwagon early, with radio shows like "Today's FBI" and "I was a Commie for the FBI"

I cannot remember what the reported amount of their budget went into PR but its pretty sizable.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 05:28 PM (Ivdso)

300 Because that's what we all grew up with seeing and hearing for our entire lives, except for a very few exceptions like Die Hard.

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Die Hard depicted the FBI far more accurately than In the Line of Fire.

Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned) at August 17, 2022 05:28 PM (sX1BW)

301 In fairness, the FBI has a big bust under its belt: B List Hollywood actors and actresses who lied to get their kids into college.

Hey now, don't forget employees of shoe companies giving checks to college ball players, to get them to go to certain colleges. Those men are still in Federal lock-up, by the way.

Imagine that. Nike and Adidas freely gave money to certain families. It wasn't extortion, but it violated NCAA rules. Money freely offered, freely accepted.

And under NIL now, completely acceptable from an NCAA perspective. Yet those men still sit in Federal lock-up. All for breaking an NCAA rule. Not a law. Just an NCAA rule.

Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 05:28 PM (UdwG8)

302 If you get rid of police violent crime and property crime skyrocket. What happens if you get rid of the Feeb? Wait why am I indulging this obvious idiocy?

Posted by: ... at August 17, 2022 05:28 PM (dscaa)

303 I suspect that the older you are, the more likely you are to believe that the FBI is incorruptible super cops who are filled to the brim with equal parts integrity and a steely-eyed determination to see justice. Because that's what we all grew up with seeing and hearing for our entire lives, except for a very few exceptions like Die Hard.

For someone like Pence, its going to be awfully hard to give that up, especially since he's probably a super hard core law and order guy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 05:18 PM


I am the same age as pence and I don't believe that and the people I hang out with who are as old or older than me don't believe it either.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 17, 2022 05:28 PM (bVYXr)

304 Pence is relevant. He is Trump's former friend and ally. The reasonable and fair inside guy who just thinks it all went too far.
Posted by: ... at August 17, 2022 05:26 PM (dscaa)

Pence better watch his ass.

He's liable to end up in the Eric Holder cell of Congress.

Posted by: Golfman at August 17, 2022 05:28 PM (rhXTS)

305 Sure Pence will go in front of Jan6 Kangaroo Court and spill everything they want.

Posted by: Skip at August 17, 2022 05:29 PM (k8B25)

306 That said, boomers did give us Yoko Ono and Disco...

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 05:23 PM (Ivdso)

Manned space flight, 70s Rock and Roll, fall of the USSR.

The division is unnecessary and unhelpful. This will be an all-hands effort.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 05:29 PM (yHsuS)

307 But her emails

Posted by: Hillary! at August 17, 2022 05:29 PM (a3Q+t)

308 If Pence runs in the primaries in 2024, he's going to get John Kasich like numbers; 1 or 2 % range.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 17, 2022 05:29 PM (trdmm)

309 Paige Spiranac did nothing wrong...and a lot right.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 17, 2022 05:29 PM (XvPQV)

310 Not really, all their opponents rose up the second they started to wobble. The Aztecs were hated by the other societies they dominated, and by their own people.

Its a large reason why the Conquistadors were able to raze the Aztec empire so quickly and efficiently. Well, that, and European diseases that the locals had no natural immunity to..

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 17, 2022 05:29 PM (3hSHB)

311 FBI finally caught the Unibomber....after his brother turned his ass in.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 17, 2022 05:23 PM (QSjkU)

Look, they opened the letter and READ it, didn't they?

Posted by: Oldcat at August 17, 2022 05:30 PM (eoQWY)

312 For someone like Pence, its going to be awfully hard to give that up, especially since he's probably a super hard core law and order guy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 05:18 PM (Ivdso)

Pence is reading from a script.

Posted by: ... at August 17, 2022 05:30 PM (dscaa)

313 Look, every once in a while there's a high profile political figure who the FBI keeps under surveillance for several years bc they think he's under the influence of the Russians.

The question I'd like to ask the soft lefties is why that's a permanent stain on the FBI's reputation when it happens to MLK and proof that Trump is a criminal now.

Posted by: bgates at August 17, 2022 05:30 PM (jK0NF)

314 Mike Punts

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 05:30 PM (krQz2)

315 Well, that, and European diseases that the locals had no natural immunity to..

And superior weapons and tactics. And armor.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 05:30 PM (Ivdso)

316 124 Uh oh, Sarah's not even telling us her hourly rate anymore. It must have increased to $20/hour.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

Dammit, I was saving up.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 05:04 PM (e+yf1)
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You could try a GoFundMe .....

Posted by: Ciampino - noney, money, money at August 17, 2022 05:30 PM (qfLjt)

317
YD, posse comitatus?
Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2022 05:25 PM (geRMl

Doesn't apply to State NGs.

Doesn't apply to emergencies where governors explicitly request federal military aid (like happened in CA during the riots).

In any event, it's not a Texas taxpayer's responsibility to police Colorado. The whole thing is silly.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2022 05:31 PM (IXpV7)

318 The FBI was instrumental in stopping FHA mortgage fraud perpetrated by the Mafia.


Stopping kids getting into colleges on bogus athletic scholarships and FHA fraud. Big winners. HUGE!


Posted by: Archer at August 17, 2022 05:31 PM (gmo/4)

319 I realize this is probably against the rules, but I did some research. Apparently Gen X and younger boomers are the Trumpiest:

https://tinyurl.com/nhdk2vwp

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 05:31 PM (e+yf1)

320 TV/Movie FBI 'solved' more fake crimes than in real life FBI. True or False?

Posted by: FIB at August 17, 2022 05:31 PM (fs1hN)

321 Pence is reading from a script.

Who knows, you cannot trust any politician. But I suspect that he's honest and just not particularly thoughtful. I think he voted to impose Biden on us not out of a love of Joe Biden but a love of the system and a fear of disrupting things.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 05:31 PM (Ivdso)

322 Har. Headline at Instapundit:

IS THERE ANYTHING THEY CAN’T DO? How Large Breasts Changed Medicine Forever.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at August 17, 2022 05:32 PM (ZSK0i)

323 The division is unnecessary and unhelpful. This will be an all-hands effort.

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I don't think it a division to note that most of the wealth of this country is in the hands of the Boomer generation, and they would like to preserve their wealth. I probably would too. It is also obvious to state that they grew up during a political coalition that made them wealth but is no longer tenable. It is my belief that the only thing holding that coalition together is the Boomer generation. Which has some positives, but it also delays the inevitable. A resorting will occur. I am optimistic that it will be a positive one.

Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned) at August 17, 2022 05:32 PM (sX1BW)

324 8 If Pence runs in the primaries in 2024, he's going to get John Kasich like numbers; 1 or 2 % range.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 17, 2022 05:29 PM (trdmm)
******
He'll be 2nd tier and relegated to the children's table.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 17, 2022 05:32 PM (NpAcC)

325 >>> 298 Not really, all their opponents rose up the second they started to wobble. The Aztecs were hated by the other societies they dominated, and by their own people.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 17, 2022 05:27 PM (xhaym)

That's because they ATE their people. Tends to raise that blood pressure.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 17, 2022 05:28 PM (eoQWY)

We are SMAHHHHHRRT and have computers so we will rule for a thousand years!

Posted by: WEF at August 17, 2022 05:32 PM (llON8)

326 I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure there is no general population in a supermax.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 17, 2022 05:32 PM (Xrfse)

327 As for the college scandal. I mean, its wrong and definitely should be busted up but, jail time? For paying a college to take your kid? That just seems ridiculously excessive.

And did the college have to pay even a fine?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 05:33 PM (Ivdso)

328 And I mean index finger up the ass review.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 17, 2022 05:28 PM


Now that's the kind of Congressional Investigation I can get behind!

Posted by: Lady G. at August 17, 2022 05:33 PM (a3Q+t)

329 IIRC, Cortez had no problem finding indigenous men to help him fight the Aztecs.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at August 17, 2022 05:33 PM (JVCkA)

330 VDH has to be one of the most thoughtful writers I've ever had the pleasure to read.

If VDH believes the FBI is beyond redemption, people should listen, because Mr. Hanson is far from a knee-jerk reactionary.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 17, 2022 05:33 PM (5pTK/)

331 if the FBI was my latex salesman, I would fire their lame asses

Posted by: REDACTED at August 17, 2022 05:33 PM (us2H3)

332 Mike Ponce is on the take

Posted by: CN at August 17, 2022 05:34 PM (Zzbjj)

333 IS THERE ANYTHING THEY CAN’T DO? How Large Breasts Changed Medicine Forever.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at August 17, 2022 05:32 PM (ZSK0i)

I am a fan of their contributions.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 05:34 PM (yHsuS)

334 For someone like Pence, its going to be awfully hard to give that up, especially since he's probably a super hard core law and order guy.
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Pence is reading from a script.


Nah. Pence is reading from a paradigm. A guy like Pence, who cares more about Order than anything else, doesn't need a script.

Pence can do fifteen minutes on Fox anytime they call, as long as its all about Back Our Blue and Save Our Country. Now, give me two minutes to lead him into when maybe those in charge need to take a nose dive ? No script will save him then.

Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 05:34 PM (UdwG8)

335 I suspect that the older you are, the more likely you are to believe that the FBI is incorruptible super cops ... Because that's what we all grew up with seeing and hearing for our entire lives, except for a very few exceptions like Die Hard.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

1. That was all propaganda. They spent as much effort on image as they did on faking expense reports at field offices.

2. The kids at reddit lately have been ranting about how great the fbi is, and how important and honorable they are. So not sure that old model still applies.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 17, 2022 05:34 PM (+Ff94)

336 IS THERE ANYTHING THEY CAN’T DO? How Large Breasts Changed Medicine Forever.

There are two medical procedures which need to be updated. One is the prostate exam, which is humiliating, vaguely homosexual and seems like something out of the dark ages. The other is the boob smashing mammogram.

Someone who invents a better way for either one deserves a statue and a nobel prize

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 05:34 PM (Ivdso)

337 Foreskin and seven bush trims ago...

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 05:34 PM (krQz2)

338 Mike Pence can eat a bag of monkey pox infected dicks.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 17, 2022 05:35 PM (aiBxL)

339 Ya know, Pence can be volunteered for a forensic audit by the new, fully-functional, IRS (AKA the Death Star of Love and Money).

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at August 17, 2022 05:35 PM (u82oZ)

340 Make the FBI REGIONAL Oriented. 8 or 12 regions, each with their own director, own organization. No Powerful FBI Chief. Additionally make it so the Washington DC region has no permanent anything. It should be a region staffed by and supervised by the heads of the other regions on a rotating basis. A rotating committee of say five regional FBI Chiefs supervise the DC Region, each with a two year term, then gone for many years.

Additionally, make the FBI regions run from smaller towns. The NYC region is run out of Albany or Rochester, Chicago from Springfield or Indianapolis, LA from Bakersfield, etc.

Posted by: rd at August 17, 2022 05:35 PM (Z32m1)

341 If you defund the FBI, they'll never find the Lindbergh baby!!

Do you guys want the kidnappers to go free?!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 17, 2022 05:35 PM (Zf0+a)

342 A resorting will occur. I am optimistic that it will be a positive one.

Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned) at August 17, 2022 05:32 PM (sX1BW)

I have experienced the attitude you describe.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 05:35 PM (yHsuS)

343 How Large Breasts Changed Medicine Forever.

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They encouraged me to go into the field and not into law.

Posted by: Eric Stratton, M.D. and Rush Chairman at August 17, 2022 05:35 PM (sX1BW)

344 "People keep saying Pence can EABOD, but he has to run that by his wife first and check her calendar to make sure she can attend. It's really not up to him."

yeah, he is never alone in a room with another woman. BUT has Pence ever said he is never in the room while his wife is "engaged" with another man?

Cucks abound ... Pence might be a member, certainly he is a cuck for "DeepState" (now Openly Rogue Junta, not Deep, though many still hid I guess)

Posted by: illiniwek at August 17, 2022 05:35 PM (Cus5s)

345 Manned space flight, 70s Rock and Roll, fall of the USSR.

Don't forget cell phones, satellite communications, data centers and horizontal drilling.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 17, 2022 05:36 PM (3hSHB)

346 The question I'd like to ask the soft lefties is why that's a permanent stain on the FBI's reputation when it happens to MLK and proof that Trump is a criminal now
_________________

Easy. Spying on MLK is racist, spying on a white supremacist like Trump, isn't racist. So there.

And don't call me a soft lefty, I'm a 'soy person of flaccidity.'

Posted by: soft lefty at August 17, 2022 05:36 PM (fs1hN)

347 what exactly is Pence doing for a paycheck atm ?

no yob that I no of

Posted by: REDACTED at August 17, 2022 05:36 PM (us2H3)

348 >>>Apparently Gen X and younger boomers are the Trumpiest

I believe this. Their formative experiences were the Carter Malaise and the Reagan Revolution. In 1984, Ronald Reagan got 525(!) electoral votes. They saw Democrats at their inept worst and are now seeing the pattern repeating. Who shall be our Ronaldus Magnus?

Posted by: Citizen Cake at August 17, 2022 05:36 PM (HmZuC)

349 >>> 342 A resorting will occur. I am optimistic that it will be a positive one.

Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned) at August 17, 2022 05:32 PM (sX1BW)

I have experienced the attitude you describe.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 05:35 PM (yHsuS)

"day of the rake" -- Uncle Palp

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 05:36 PM (llON8)

350 Nah. Pence is reading from a paradigm. A guy like Pence, who cares more about Order than anything else, doesn't need a script.

Yeah, that is how I see him as well. Reliable, not very thoughtful or deep, memorizes well. Middle management politics. The left has a host of those people.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 05:36 PM (Ivdso)

351 Speaking of the Supreme Court , did they ever find the leaker???

Posted by: runner at August 17, 2022 05:37 PM (eisI8)

352 Manned space flight, 70s Rock and Roll, fall of the USSR.

Don't forget cell phones, satellite communications, data centers and horizontal drilling.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 17, 2022 05:36 PM (3hSHB)
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We didn't start the fire.

Posted by: FIB at August 17, 2022 05:37 PM (krQz2)

353 Someone who invents a better way for either one deserves a statue and a nobel prize
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Well, you just might want to consider whether humiliation is one of the goals.

Posted by: Dr. Fauci, because there's no point being in charge if you don't get to humiliate people and torture at August 17, 2022 05:37 PM (4Jc5g)

354 Make the FBI REGIONAL Oriented. 8 or 12 regions, each with their own director, own organization.

That strategery hasn't worked out. Ref: The Federal Reserve

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 17, 2022 05:37 PM (3hSHB)

355 I always found it a bit suspicious that seemingly the one person in the Trump administration who was never targeted by the left or their allies in the deep state was Pence.
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It's the plastic hair hat he wears.

Posted by: dartist at August 17, 2022 05:37 PM (+ya+t)

356 Mike Ponce is on the take

Posted by: CN at August 17, 2022 05:34 PM (Zzbjj)

A monkey pox on his taint.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 05:37 PM (yHsuS)

357 I think the FBI started out busting whorehouses

shoulda stuck to that

Posted by: REDACTED at August 17, 2022 05:37 PM (us2H3)

358 @301

>>Hey now, don't forget employees of shoe companies..

They also raided Gibson guitars because they got wind they had cache of prohibited wood in their woodsheds.


The FBI, failure is your name.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 17, 2022 05:37 PM (WgimQ)

359 >>> 340 Make the FBI REGIONAL Oriented. 8 or 12 regions, each with their own director, own organization. No Powerful FBI Chief. Additionally make it so the Washington DC region has no permanent anything. It should be a region staffed by and supervised by the heads of the other regions on a rotating basis. A rotating committee of say five regional FBI Chiefs supervise the DC Region, each with a two year term, then gone for many years.

Additionally, make the FBI regions run from smaller towns. The NYC region is run out of Albany or Rochester, Chicago from Springfield or Indianapolis, LA from Bakersfield, etc.
Posted by: rd at August 17, 2022 05:35 PM (Z32m1)

Do those cities have their own police departments? Then why do we need the Eff.Bee.EYE?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 05:37 PM (llON8)

360 humiliate people and torture puppies. I got cut off.

Posted by: Dr. Fauci, because there's no point being in charge if you don't get to humiliate people and torture at August 17, 2022 05:37 PM (4Jc5g)

361 Mike Pence and Asa Hutchinson in 2024. Kasich could open their rallies with mailman jokes his dad, who was a mailman by the way, used to tell him on camping trips. Just for laughs, they could get John Boehner to ride along, pointing out dive bars in every town they hit.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 17, 2022 05:38 PM (lz5hY)

362 IF you are on the fib watch list you are free to go out and do your mission without fib interruption. It is known.

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 17, 2022 05:38 PM (flINI)

363 "Make the FBI REGIONAL Oriented. 8 or 12 regions, each with their own director, own organization. No Powerful FBI Chief. "

aligned with the new "United Regions of United States of America". As a halfway measure to a divorce ... a limited separation into regions.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 17, 2022 05:38 PM (Cus5s)

364 They also raided Gibson guitars because they got wind they had cache of prohibited wood in their woodsheds.

Yeah that was a real triumph of justice there

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 05:38 PM (Ivdso)

365 I don't think it a division to note that most of the wealth of this country is in the hands of the Boomer generation, and they would like to preserve their wealth. I probably would too. It is also obvious to state that they grew up during a political coalition that made them wealth...
Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned)


Or, you know, maybe most of them built wealth by working their asses off for most of their lives instead of complaining about their parents?

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 05:38 PM (e+yf1)

366 Make the FBI REGIONAL Oriented. 8 or 12 regions, each with their own director, own organization.

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Don't we already have a way to decentralize police powers in this country?

Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned) at August 17, 2022 05:38 PM (sX1BW)

367 A monkey pox on his taint.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 05:37 PM (yHsuS)

was that really, necessary ?

Posted by: REDACTED at August 17, 2022 05:38 PM (us2H3)

368 Over years of watching old movies and TV, I have often been amused by fbi propaganda. It was relentless in the mid century movies.

My favorite though was an old FBI Files tv show (not sure of which series actually) about the Miami shootout. This was a sensitive case and I am sure the FBI made demands. The hilarious part is that the team of agents at the field office seemed to spend every minute of free time at the range. Over lunch, before work, weekends. Every other scene had them at the range. Right.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 17, 2022 05:38 PM (+Ff94)

369 I think the FBI started out busting whorehouses


Per the FBI's general operating plan, it was all entrapment.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 17, 2022 05:39 PM (guGkK)

370 2. The kids at reddit lately have been ranting about how great the fbi is, and how important and honorable they are. So not sure that old model still applies.
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Hey Lisa honey, the smelly walmart crowd is calling us 'kids' now!

Posted by: P. Strzok at August 17, 2022 05:39 PM (fs1hN)

371 Mike Pence and Asa Hutchinson in 2024. Kasich could open their rallies with mailman jokes his dad, who was a mailman by the way, used to tell him on camping trips.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 17, 2022 05:38 PM (lz5hY)
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Call it the Huntsman wing.

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 05:39 PM (krQz2)

372 Mike Pence: Talking About Defunding the FBI is Just Like Talking About Defunding the Police


Sweet! When do we get our million dollar checks and tv appearances like BLM??

Posted by: rickb223 at August 17, 2022 05:39 PM (LNtgV)

373 I think the FBI qualifies to use the RICO act against.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 17, 2022 05:39 PM (QSjkU)

374 Apparently Gen X and younger boomers are the Trumpiest

I can go with that. Sort of like the middle child in a given family and the pathologies and promise that follows.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 17, 2022 05:39 PM (3hSHB)

375 Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 05:34 PM (UdwG

Watch when Pence confirms half the bs lies and slander about Trump, as a "witness". You gonna believe he came to those conclusions on his own??

Posted by: ... at August 17, 2022 05:39 PM (dscaa)

376 I beginning to wonder if Wild Bill was really guilty ?

Posted by: REDACTED at August 17, 2022 05:39 PM (us2H3)

377 I don't think "Defund the FBI" would really be effective in terms of disempowering them in a way that the American people could feel secure with.
Now, "Disembowel and Defenestrate the FBI"...

FJB

Posted by: jbspry at August 17, 2022 05:39 PM (fTG37)

378 >>> 360 humiliate people and torture puppies. I got cut off.
Posted by: Dr. Fauci, because there's no point being in charge if you don't get to humiliate people and torture at August 17, 2022 05:37 PM (4Jc5g)

Let's not forget the AIDS and crack babies.

Posted by: Anthony Fauci, SCIENCE at August 17, 2022 05:39 PM (llON8)

379 326 I may be wrong but I'm pretty sure there is no general population in a supermax.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 17, 2022 05:32 PM (Xrfse)


They don't let them even be near other inmates.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 17, 2022 05:40 PM (qH6FZ)

380 They also raided Gibson guitars because they got wind they had cache of prohibited wood in their woodsheds.

Yeah that was a real triumph of justice there
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 05:38 PM (Ivdso)



Justice For Zebrawood!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 17, 2022 05:40 PM (guGkK)

381 horizontal drilling.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 17, 2022 05:36 PM (3hSHB)

***

Something... how do you say... I am familiar with

Posted by: The Paolo at August 17, 2022 05:40 PM (flINI)

382 I would vote for this thread if it had a penis.

Posted by: Potential Warren Voter at August 17, 2022 05:40 PM (krQz2)

383

Guess how many FBI agents volunteered to go undercover in the whorehouses as tranny hookers?

Posted by: Xtreme Denise at August 17, 2022 05:40 PM (MmNRJ)

384 Or, you know, maybe most of them built wealth by working their asses off for most of their lives instead of complaining about their parents?

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Yes, they did. And kudos to them. But the conditions in America that existed at the time that allowed them to build such wealth no longer exists. This is not to say that America is still not the land of opportunity. But there are far more restrictions now.

Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned) at August 17, 2022 05:41 PM (sX1BW)

385 The hilarious part is that the team of agents at the field office seemed to spend every minute of free time at the range. Over lunch, before work, weekends. Every other scene had them at the range. Right.

Substitute "range" with "bar" and you have the truth.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 17, 2022 05:41 PM (3hSHB)

386 Make the FBI REGIONAL Oriented. 8 or 12 regions, each with their own director, own organization. No Powerful FBI Chief. Additionally make it so the Washington DC region has no permanent anything. It should be a region staffed by and supervised by the heads of the other regions on a rotating basis. A rotating committee of say five regional FBI Chiefs supervise the DC Region, each with a two year term, then gone for many years.

Additionally, make the FBI regions run from smaller towns. The NYC region is run out of Albany or Rochester, Chicago from Springfield or Indianapolis, LA from Bakersfield, etc.
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Change the geographical makeup of the DC circuit. That's a fcukin Kangaroo court right now on anything remotely political. It should never have been exclusively DC area. That was a ticking time bomb.

Posted by: You wanna make a change? at August 17, 2022 05:41 PM (Mixeq)

387 "aligned with the new "United Regions of United States of America". As a halfway measure to a divorce ... a limited separation into regions."

or maybe it would be the "United Regions of United States of America" ... haven't really thought through the framework except a united military against foreign enemies, but Regional authority overruling the current Federal Gestapo like totalitarian controls. States still sovereign, except for certain specified powers for the region. Federal DeepState basically castrated.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 17, 2022 05:42 PM (Cus5s)

388 Not participating in the Boomer Wars. Wouldn't be prudent.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 17, 2022 05:42 PM (Xrfse)

389 The clues the FIBs were stasi were there for years. Their HQs looks like an East German (DDR) building, gray, ugly, and intimidating unless you work there.

Posted by: Beartooth at August 17, 2022 05:42 PM (MujTL)

390 It's also amusing to see aging ex-hippies vociferously defending the FBI and CIA.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at August 17, 2022 05:42 PM (HmZuC)

391 Give them credit for nailing Aunt Becky.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 17, 2022 05:42 PM (eGTCV)

392 >>> 388 Not participating in the Boomer Wars. Wouldn't be prudent.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 17, 2022 05:42 PM (Xrfse)

Yoo hoo!

Posted by: MaryAnn vs Ginger at August 17, 2022 05:42 PM (llON8)

393 There are two medical procedures which need to be updated. One is the prostate exam, which is humiliating....
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

My understanding is that they don't do that anymore since it was found to be useless. Many older doctors haven't gotten the memo yet though.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 17, 2022 05:42 PM (+Ff94)

394

The lower ranks Agent bar inside FBI headquarters is known as " The Badge, Bung and Dick "

Posted by: Xtreme Denise at August 17, 2022 05:43 PM (MmNRJ)

395 I do not think Mike Pence would want to be VP to Liz Cheney as Presidential candidate. If he runs at all he'll run for President.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 17, 2022 05:43 PM (wvo9L)

396 Guess how many FBI agents volunteered to go undercover in the whorehouses as tranny hookers?
Posted by: Xtreme Denise at August 17, 2022 05:40 PM (MmNRJ)

Lets take the short way home

how many didn't volunteer ?

Posted by: REDACTED at August 17, 2022 05:43 PM (us2H3)

397 Make the FIB Grated Again!

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 05:43 PM (krQz2)

398 Give them credit for nailing Aunt Becky.
Posted by: N.L. Urker


You know who else would have liked to nail Aunt Becky?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 17, 2022 05:43 PM (LNtgV)

399 "There's a massive ... segment of the GOP that's so braindead with sentimental, heart-thumping reverence for the Heroic G-Man"

But, the X-Files, man!
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at August 17, 2022 05:05 PM (2TMLo)

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The thing about the X-Files... The series showed the Bureau outside of Mulder and Scully to be corrupt.

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 17, 2022 05:44 PM (zL564)

400 Yes, they did. And kudos to them. But the conditions in America that existed at the time that allowed them to build such wealth no longer exists. This is not to say that America is still not the land of opportunity. But there are far more restrictions now.

This is absolute truth. I watched it happen with my own eyes. A simple analog:

In high school we could drive out to the lake and party all night without any problems.

A couple years later they banned alcohol and later stepped up patrols.

A year later they put up gates and had a curfew

A few years later they just closed down permanently a number of remote parks that were enjoyed.

Not long after they harassed people for floating in rafts out in the lake.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 17, 2022 05:44 PM (3hSHB)

401 >>> 389 The clues the FIBs were stasi were there for years. Their HQs looks like an East German (DDR) building, gray, ugly, and intimidating unless you work there.
Posted by: Beartooth at August 17, 2022 05:42 PM (MujTL)

The HQ looks like all of the other crappy, commie-style buildings built during the same era. Remember OrangeManBad's EO slamming such designs and pushing for classical style to be used in the future? That one got some good REEEEEs in response.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 05:44 PM (llON8)

402 391 Give them credit for nailing Aunt Becky.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 17, 2022 05:42 PM (eGTCV)

yes, that was one crack they cased

Posted by: REDACTED at August 17, 2022 05:44 PM (us2H3)

403 You know who else would have liked to nail Aunt Becky?

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Uncle Joey. And it really pissed off Alanis Moirsette

Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned) at August 17, 2022 05:45 PM (sX1BW)

404 Yes, they did. And kudos to them. But the conditions in America that existed at the time that allowed them to build such wealth no longer exists. This is not to say that America is still not the land of opportunity. But there are far more restrictions now.
Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned)


Come on. The US (and world) is far far richer today than when I (older Gen X) was a kid. There's many more ways to make it. The restrictions are in your head.

Lack of belief in your ability to build something is entirely self-fulfilling.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 05:45 PM (e+yf1)

405 Smack him with a baseball bat.

Posted by: Babe Ruth Sent Us at August 17, 2022 05:45 PM (63Dwl)

406 395 Asa Hutchinson would gladly be Lizard's running mate providing he can stay on Walmart payroll.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 17, 2022 05:45 PM (lz5hY)

407 Ugliest building in Fort Collins is the federal building (social security, et al). Looks like some of the structures I saw in East Berlin in 1989.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, it's pronounced Muh-Hone at August 17, 2022 05:45 PM (x8Wzq)

408 And right now, we don't have the rule of law in Washington," said Hanson.

"Whether you're targeted or exempt depends on your ideology."
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That needs to be embroidered on a pillow.

Posted by: LASue at August 17, 2022 05:46 PM (Ed8Zd)

409 Let's not completely discount prostatic exam techniques, old chaps.

Posted by: Prince of Pegging at August 17, 2022 05:46 PM (a3Q+t)

410 Only someone as clueless as Pence could give a speech the day after his high-profile endorsement lost by 30 points and think he has influence among conservatives.

Erick Erickson is the most angry person in the world right now. Pence just bumped him from "CNN Guest Commentator"

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 17, 2022 05:46 PM (Zf0+a)

411 Come on. The US (and world) is far far richer today than when I (older Gen X) was a kid. There's many more ways to make it. The restrictions are in your head.

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Society is debating how many genders there are?

I don't think they are in my head.

Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned) at August 17, 2022 05:46 PM (sX1BW)

412 400 Safetyism sucks and is far worse today, no doubt about it. But none of that prevents you building wealth.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 05:46 PM (e+yf1)

413 The order has come down from Putin to Trump
DEFUND THE FBI

Posted by: Paul at August 17, 2022 05:46 PM (X88wM)

414 The FBI is way too intertwined (overlapping responsibilities) with other Federal, state & private entities that are often also armed to the teeth.

i.e., FBI training: Leaders and managers of state, local, county, tribal, military, federal, and international law enforcement agencies attend the FBI National Academy.

It's not so much defund but rather narrow the scope, cut statutes giving excessive power.

Posted by: Lola at August 17, 2022 05:46 PM (NIYa7)

415 Dan Quayle > Mike Pence

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 17, 2022 05:46 PM (FkXak)

416 It isn't an "email" scandal. It's a known massive systematic years-long deliberate violation of the Espionage Act, assessed to have led to damage (foreign exploitation), by a statutory member of the National Security Council and her entire senior staff structure.

And it's typical mediocre performance (referring to Doc Zero post below) to not address the central issues and facts of a situation (fact: nothing about Trump or his administration was the least bit "authoritarian", in any way, obviously, and period), but to deflect with some comparison ("not compared to" the Biden idiots). It isn't just pathetic dim public figures, mostly "conservative" or GOP, who don't appear to know how to think or to communicate persuasively, how to focus on false premises and frameworks, it seems widespread now.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 17, 2022 05:46 PM (OTzUX)

417 Breaking News~!

New York is changing its theme song thanks to
Texas, Governor Greg Abbott:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfOIYB56gn8

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at August 17, 2022 05:47 PM (AxHiq)

418 Society is debating how many genders there are?

I don't think they are in my head.
Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned)


What's in your head is the belief that that has anything to do with your ability to build wealth.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 05:47 PM (e+yf1)

419 Apparently Gen X and younger boomers are the Trumpiest

I believe this. Their formative experiences were the Carter Malaise and the Reagan Revolution. In 1984, Ronald Reagan got 525(!) electoral votes. They saw Democrats at their inept worst and are now seeing the pattern repeating. Who shall be our Ronaldus Magnus?


Again, more paradigms shit-canned. Work hard, stay loyal, and good things will happen ? Horse. Shit.

I lived through watching all these supposedly made men, the Blue Collar Aristocracy, get their cheap watch and bounced out on their collective asses.

All while reading Ann Landers and the First Wave Boomers (they are really two sub-sets) complain that this new generation just wanted to get a good job, get a house, and ignore all the really important shit.

Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 05:47 PM (UdwG8)

420 Posted by: Paul
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And you did that without crayon. You're Mom sure is proud.

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 05:47 PM (krQz2)

421

I'd suck his brains out with a straw, sell his widow and orphans, and go into South American zinc.

Posted by: City Gent at August 17, 2022 05:48 PM (MmNRJ)

422 Paul's latest droppings are too stupid even for him. Why would Putin care about the US FBI?

Posted by: Thrawn at August 17, 2022 05:48 PM (Rl7KJ)

423 The competence of the FBI was on full display when they all showed up 'undercover' dressed alike in shorts, boat shoes and sunglasses with near identical haircuts. So hilarious that it was turned into a meme. I wouldn't be surprised if they learned nothing from it.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 17, 2022 05:48 PM (fs1hN)

424 Can Mike Pence read a room, or can he read a ROOM!

Posted by: McLurkerson at August 17, 2022 05:48 PM (wNDOJ)

425 Safetyism sucks and is far worse today, no doubt about it. But none of that prevents you building wealth.

Other than taxes, lawfare, regulations, terrible workforce, high energy prices, ESG banking, cancel culture, and legions of activist NGO and patent lawyers looking for any opportunity to separate you from your money.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 17, 2022 05:48 PM (3hSHB)

426 The FBI nailed Tokyo Rose, after manufacturing evidence they needed to convict. They have been corrupt since the beginning. Hoover was about building his own fiefdom.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 17, 2022 05:48 PM (QSjkU)

427 "There's a massive ... segment of the GOP that's so braindead with sentimental, heart-thumping reverence for the Heroic G-Man"

But, the X-Files, man!
Posted by: Bacon Jeff at August 17, 2022 05:05 PM (2TMLo)
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The thing about the X-Files... The series showed the Bureau outside of Mulder and Scully to be corrupt.
Posted by: Darth Randall at August 17, 2022 05:44 PM (zL564)

I must be a super Boomer cuz I reflexively
think of Efram Zimbalist Jr; not Scully.

Posted by: LASue at August 17, 2022 05:48 PM (Ed8Zd)

428 >>> 404

==
Come on. The US (and world) is far far richer today than when I (older Gen X) was a kid. There's many more ways to make it. The restrictions are in your head.

Lack of belief in your ability to build something is entirely self-fulfilling.
Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 05:45 PM (e+yf1)

While I agree that pessimism can be horribly self-fulfilling, the idea that restrictions are imaginary seems a bit outdated. When I was *well* under 29, our local vet posted a list of expenses they'd had to pay and laws and regulations they'd had to find and follow just to expand the building a little bit. They'd already spent $200K and weren't finished.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 05:49 PM (llON8)

429 Uh, I don't think so, Mike.

Posted by: wth at August 17, 2022 05:49 PM (v0R5T)

430 Do those cities have their own police departments? Then why do we need the Eff.Bee.EYE?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 05:37 PM (llON


There are purely federal crimes. There are crimes that cross state borders.

Personally, I want the FBI Replaced, and assigned to necessary, but meaningful federal crime tasks like finding the supposed 5,000 Native American and Eskimo women and children that disappear on Federal Indian Reservations every year. These are federal crimes, and will be investigated far from the Bright Lights and Big City. Stop all recruitment for the FBI and in 20-25 years it is EXTINCT.

In the interim, it is a visible ongoing reminder that NO Bureaucracy is Permanent.

Posted by: rd at August 17, 2022 05:49 PM (Z32m1)

431 A few years and nothing on the Las Vegas shooter

Posted by: Skip at August 17, 2022 05:49 PM (k8B25)

432 Jennette McCurdy, a former child star for Nickelodeon, has blown the whistle on how children are routinely drugged and raped by Hollywood executives, and forced to engage in horrific sex acts with pedophiles in order to further their careers.

https://tinyurl.com/yncbwf8w

Posted by: Maj. Healey Will Never Consume Bugs Or Bug Parts at August 17, 2022 05:50 PM (m7R0k)

433 My understanding is that they don't do that anymore since it was found to be useless. Many older doctors haven't gotten the memo yet though.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 17, 2022 05:42 PM (+Ff94)



Some doctors just enjoy sticking their finger in your ass.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 17, 2022 05:50 PM (guGkK)

434 A civil war would be over quickly. The Left would finally be free of a big yoke around its neck. The Left outnumbers the Right at least 3:1, and the Right is mostly all old people.

Posted by: Sid at August 17, 2022 05:51 PM (yTzGR)

435 Mike Pence is a white, male Kamala Harris.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 17, 2022 05:51 PM (FkXak)

436 Jennette McCurdy

"you know, if we get fifty or sixty more of these cries for justice and help, we might have to take action!"
--Police everywhere

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 05:51 PM (Ivdso)

437 >>> Posted by: Sid at August 17, 2022 05:51 PM (yTzGR)

Well if you're so certain....

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 05:51 PM (llON8)

438 Some doctors just enjoy sticking their finger in your ass.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 17, 2022 05:50 PM (guGkK)
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Well, some of us get bored using our own!

Posted by: Don Lemon at August 17, 2022 05:52 PM (5pTK/)

439 404 Yes, they did. And kudos to them. But the conditions in America that existed at the time that allowed them to build such wealth no longer exists. This is not to say that America is still not the land of opportunity. But there are far more restrictions now.
Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned)

Come on. The US (and world) is far far richer today than when I (older Gen X) was a kid. There's many more ways to make it. The restrictions are in your head.

Lack of belief in your ability to build something is entirely self-fulfilling.
Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 05:45 PM (e+yf1)

Regulation and obstructive credentialism tends to accumulate over time. You can't get the same job with a high school degree you could 50 years ago.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 17, 2022 05:52 PM (b2nrj)

440 407 Ugliest building in Fort Collins is the federal building (social security, et al). Looks like some of the structures I saw in East Berlin in 1989.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, it's pronounced Muh-Hone at August 17, 2022 05:45 PM (x8Wzq)

When I was in East Berlin, walk 2 blocks off the Unter Der Linden and it still looked like WW II. There were bombed out buildings, rubble and bullet pocked walls.

Posted by: Beartooth at August 17, 2022 05:52 PM (MujTL)

441
Department of Justice
Office of Public Affairs
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Tuesday, June 25, 2019
Former Arkansas State Senator Jeremy Hutchinson Pleads Guilty to Bribery and Tax Fraud Charges in Multi-District Investigation
Former Arkansas State Senator Jeremy Hutchinson pleaded guilty today before U.S. District Judge Kristine G. Baker to accepting multiple bribes and tax fraud in connection with a multi-district investigation spanning the Eastern and Western Districts of Arkansas and the Western District of Missouri.
Hutchinson, 45, of Little Rock, Arkansas, was previously a state senator and representative prior to resigning after he was charged in the Eastern District of Arkansas in a 12-count federal grand jury indictment with eight counts of wire fraud and four counts of filing false tax returns.
Asa's nephew
nice resume enhancer
Lobying Trump to pardon
Trump told him fuggitaboutit

Posted by: REDACTED at August 17, 2022 05:52 PM (us2H3)

442 ..Posted by: Sid at August 17, 2022 05:51 PM (yTzGR)



LOL.. Old people with guns , not soy boys

Posted by: It's me donna at August 17, 2022 05:52 PM (bs+z0)

443 Or, you know, maybe most of them built wealth by working their asses off for most of their lives instead of complaining about their parents?

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 05:38 PM (e+yf1)


Or not.

They sure enjoyed the 401K boom, if they were in stocks before my dumb-ass generation was encouraged to sink 10%, pre-tax, in. It wasn't like there was suddenly more stocks. All my generation did was pass wealth, via certificates that had no intrinsic value, to Boomers and Silents that were in the market first. No wonder those in charge encouraged us to do so.

But, yeah, Boomers pushed an economy to prosperity. It wasn't prosperous already, and they just reaped it. They made it. You betcha'.

Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 05:53 PM (UdwG8)

444 FBI was too busy to bother with a pedophile doctor molesting a bunch of gymnasts. That shit went on for years, and the FBI was informed and did squat, but Hey, they had some pissing stories about Trump to investigate.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 17, 2022 05:53 PM (QSjkU)

445 Since when has the FBI ever protected the public rather than menaced the public.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 17, 2022 05:54 PM (8GBH4)

446 Ah, Sid, never change. Civil kicks off, the major urban areas burn themselves to the ground, trying to get enough food to eat while rural areas pick off survivors who somehow make it out of the carnage.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 17, 2022 05:54 PM (5pTK/)

447 Other than taxes, lawfare, regulations, terrible workforce, high energy prices, ESG banking, cancel culture, and legions of activist NGO and patent lawyers looking for any opportunity to separate you from your money.
Posted by: Reuben Hick


Taxes were higher. They don't use lawfare on small businesses - it's not worth it. Regulations are a problem, but it's a cost of business that everyone bears and it's still a minor component. Energy prices are not higher than being so unavailable there are gas lines. Patent lawyers? Give me a break.

If you are listing all those things as an impediment to you building wealth, then I guarantee you won't build any wealth. But not because of those things you listed.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 05:54 PM (e+yf1)

448 Jennette MvCurdy:

"Now that I'm older and have grifted all I could out of being an actress, I'm taking one final stab at parlaying my semi-celebrity into a few more dollars.

Anything to avoid doing actual work."

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 17, 2022 05:54 PM (FkXak)

449 Damn Sid. Does it hurt being that stupid?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 17, 2022 05:54 PM (QSjkU)

450 Does Sudden Infant Death believe there's 270 million mentally ill people in the U$.S.?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 17, 2022 05:55 PM (eGTCV)

451 Again, more paradigms shit-canned. Work hard, stay loyal, and good things will happen ? Horse. Shit.

Its a lot more than that now. The Boomers were the first to trade in the traditional family for the dual income paradigm. The younger X and Millennials ended up being latchkey kids due to the Yuppies chasing after the McMansion rather than leaving a family legacy. I would blame no-fault divorce and the dissolution of the church as a primary centerpiece of society. We built fences and alleys to separate us and locked ourselves into our airconditioned homes rather than assemble on the porch or at the community center.

So successive generations are socially fucked-up, godless and basically feral in comparison to what the Silent Generation provided. OTOH, it was the industriousness of the dual-income Boomer family that made so much wealth that their kids could afford to be assholes and slackers.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 17, 2022 05:55 PM (3hSHB)

452 VDH has to be one of the most thoughtful writers I've ever had the pleasure to read.

If VDH believes the FBI is beyond redemption, people should listen, because Mr. Hanson is far from a knee-jerk reactionary.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 17, 2022 05:33 PM (5pTK/)

So true.

Posted by: LASue at August 17, 2022 05:55 PM (Ed8Zd)

453 The FBI is way too intertwined (overlapping responsibilities) with other Federal, state & private entities that are often also armed to the teeth.

i.e., FBI training: Leaders and managers of state, local, county, tribal, military, federal, and international law enforcement agencies attend the FBI National Academy.

It's not so much defund but rather narrow the scope, cut statutes giving excessive power.

Posted by: Lola at August 17, 2022 05:46 PM


The fib and the atf were both present at the Uvaldae school shooting and chose not to exert Federal authority at any time during the 71 minute standoff, something they routinely do at other hostage/shooting events.


It took border patrol agents to go in and take down the shooter. That tells me exactly what I need to know about the fib. They are worthless scumbags that don't care about upholding the law or protecting people if their reputation could take a hit or they might be in danger.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 17, 2022 05:56 PM (bVYXr)

454 How has everyone forgot the NASCAR Noosegate success story? A shining example of Top Men, Top. Men.

Posted by: Beartooth at August 17, 2022 05:56 PM (MujTL)

455 "aligned with the new "United Regions of United States of America". As a halfway measure to a divorce ... a limited separation into regions."

or maybe it would be the "United Regions of United States of America" ... haven't really thought through the framework except a united military against foreign enemies, but Regional authority overruling the current Federal Gestapo like totalitarian controls. States still sovereign, except for certain specified powers for the region. Federal DeepState basically castrated.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 17, 2022 05:42 PM (Cus5s)

What kind of monetary exchange would there be? And who would control the printing and money supply? Would our exchange still be in dollars?

Just throwing that out there.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 17, 2022 05:56 PM (Qhnrt)

456 One thing I do get tired of is the lack of a sense of humor some generations have about their era. I mean you mock a Gen Xer and they'll go "you don't know the half of it". Make fun of a millennial and they scream boomer at you. Goof on a Boomer and they start listing accomplishments people other than they achieved.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 05:56 PM (Ivdso)

457 Am I the only one who, when hearing "Raid on Mar A Lago" thinks about the "Raid on Macho Grande" in the movie Airplane?

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 17, 2022 05:57 PM (lz5hY)

458 Did the FBI clowns ever find the bomb planters outside the DNC and the RNC?

Of course not. The planters were getting time and a half overtime.

Posted by: free tibet at August 17, 2022 05:57 PM (iNp3L)

459 is it just me or has Megyn Kelly done something to her eyes ?

she's got this "come do me" look now

Posted by: REDACTED at August 17, 2022 05:57 PM (us2H3)

460 Piglet McCain is seething over Cheney's crushing loss.

LOLGFY MegaMac.

Posted by: Maj. Healey Will Never Consume Bugs Or Bug Parts at August 17, 2022 05:57 PM (m7R0k)

461 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 05:56 PM (Ivdso)

All generations except for my own are pathetic and beneath contempt.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 17, 2022 05:58 PM (XIJ/X)

462 Or, you know, maybe most of them built wealth by working their asses off for most of their lives instead of complaining about their parents?"

So... you believe that these scuzzbag directors and producers are NOT molesting cute young actresses?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 05:58 PM (Ivdso)

463 I see the man with numerous handles is back again. He loves his scrappyfest fights with Boomers, doesn't he (?) and uses the word "sh** repeatedly to prove how tough he is.

Catch you all later,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 17, 2022 05:59 PM (wvo9L)

464 You know, I don't remember any dire warnings about violence for the months after George Floyd died. Did I miss something?

Even when the church next to the White House was burning, Jake Tapper had BLM Cullors admit that the riots were about taking Trump out.

Guess the DOJ missed that.

Posted by: Ultra pj at August 17, 2022 05:59 PM (G1dq6)

465 >>is it just me or has Megyn Kelly done something to her eyes ?

Semen is loaded with essential proteins.

Posted by: Maj. Healey Will Never Consume Bugs Or Bug Parts at August 17, 2022 05:59 PM (m7R0k)

466 Pence is a middle manager. He's gone as far as he can go. Toe the line. Don't rock the boat. A ham-and-egger.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 17, 2022 05:59 PM (WHt4f)

467 461 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 05:56 PM (Ivdso)

All generations except for my own are pathetic and beneath contempt.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 17, 2022 05:58 PM (XIJ/X)

Harumph

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 17, 2022 05:59 PM (b2nrj)

468 259 I always found it a bit suspicious that seemingly the one person in the Trump administration who was never targeted by the left or their allies in the deep state was Pence.

Trump was colluding with Russia to rig the election but Pence knew nothing about it? Oh, ok.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Not only have I not had that thought I have not read it anywhere else.

It's on the money.

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at August 17, 2022 05:59 PM (AxHiq)

469 Goof on a Boomer and they start listing accomplishments people other than they achieved.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 05:56 PM (Ivdso)
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Well, I do believe tide pod generation should be a bit more careful tossing around the insult, "Okay, Boomer."

Other than that, have at it.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 17, 2022 06:00 PM (5pTK/)

470 Posted by: Sid at August 17, 2022 05:51 PM (yTzGR)

I love it when trolls say stuff that is so mind-numbingly stupid and wrong that no edit of mine could possibly make it more embarrassing!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 17, 2022 06:00 PM (XIJ/X)

471 So successive generations are socially fucked-up, godless and basically feral in comparison to what the Silent Generation provided. OTOH, it was the industriousness of the dual-income Boomer family that made so much wealth that their kids could afford to be assholes and slackers.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 17, 2022 05:55 PM (3hSHB)


Fair enough. Now try to be a single house-hold income. Try to home-school. See how it works.

Its not so simple as greedy folks not choosing to be a single car, single income household anymore. There are a million different social pressures to make sure you drag your ass along and conform.

The days of 40 acres and a mule are over. They'll Weaver your ass if you try. Or take your kids.

Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 06:00 PM (UdwG8)

472
Doods, doods, doods, think about it.

The Democrats put Jamie Raskin on Liz Cheney to "charm" her to the other side. Jamie fucking Raskin. He looks like Harpo Marx.

She's a lonely loser. Easily pliable if you give her a little attention and affection.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 17, 2022 06:01 PM (jmDe3)

473 Well, I do believe tide pod generation should be a bit more careful tossing around the insult, "Okay, Boomer."

Its hilarious because they'll do it to some 97 year old WW2 vet. "Everyone older than me is a boomer!"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 06:01 PM (Ivdso)

474 They sure enjoyed the 401K boom
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat


If you bought the Nasdaq in early 2000, you weren't above water again until 2015. That affected a lot of Gen X.

If you've been investing 10% every year for any length of time you're way ahead.

We gen X and boomers even gave you the global financial crisis: a golden opportunity to buy in at 50% discount, just as Millennials were joining the workforce

Seriously, the glass is half full. At least. Look forwards, not backwards.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 06:01 PM (e+yf1)

475 Patent lawyers? Give me a break.

People who generate IP made good money on their inventions. Apple, Google and the other megaliths stole these ideas figuring that lawyers were cheaper than royalties. Trump changed that, but this current crop of filth has restored the theft.

If you are listing all those things as an impediment to you building wealth, then I guarantee you won't build any wealth. But not because of those things you listed.

Those are impediments unless you are connected, then they aren't. There is a huge reason why people go to Ivy League colleges - it ain't the education, its the network. Creating Generational Wealth is a whole lot different nowadays than before.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 17, 2022 06:02 PM (3hSHB)

476 I am of the opinion that, generally speaking, every complaint that every generation has about the ones that came after it are true. Going back to Adam.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 06:02 PM (Ivdso)

477 Karl Rove says "it was Pence"

Posted by: REDACTED at August 17, 2022 06:02 PM (us2H3)

478 Catch you all later,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 17, 2022 05:59 PM (wvo9L)


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Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 06:02 PM (UdwG8)

479 Well, I do believe tide pod generation should be a bit more careful tossing around the insult, "Okay, Boomer."
Posted by: blake


I stopped my kids saying "Ok Boomer" by telling them to go eat their tide pods.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 06:03 PM (e+yf1)

480 Some doctors just enjoy sticking their finger in your ass.
Posted by: Cicero

That son of a bitch had both hands on both shoulders!

Posted by: Dr Nick Riviera at August 17, 2022 06:03 PM (MmNRJ)

481 476 I am of the opinion that, generally speaking, every complaint that every generation has about the ones that came after it are true. Going back to Adam.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 06:02 PM (Ivdso)

So humans are consistently awful parents?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 17, 2022 06:03 PM (b2nrj)

482 We gen X and boomers even gave you the global financial crisis: a golden opportunity to buy in at 50% discount, just as Millennials were joining the workforce

I can agree with that. Home ownership as an investment did work out for those who weren't using their equity as an ATM.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 17, 2022 06:03 PM (3hSHB)

483 477 Karl Rove says "it was Pence"
Posted by: REDACTED at August 17, 2022 06:02 PM (us2H3)
Yeah. If you emptied all the shit outta Carl Rove he would look like a deflated balloon.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 17, 2022 06:04 PM (QSjkU)

484 I see the man with numerous handles is back again. He loves his scrappyfest fights with Boomers, doesn't he (?) and uses the word "sh** repeatedly to prove how tough he is.

I love that the self-appointed chaplain can't follow the first two rules of business. Mind your own. Stay out of other peoples.

Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 06:04 PM (UdwG8)

485 That son of a bitch had both hands on both shoulders!
Posted by: Dr Nick Riviera at August 17, 2022 06:03 PM (MmNRJ)

Your dentist ?

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 17, 2022 06:04 PM (M+Lyo)

486 Generational warfare, I see.

Ok.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 17, 2022 06:04 PM (HJDAV)

487 So humans are consistently awful parents?

Yep. And kids are awful at learning. We're all sinful and fall short of God's glory. We all need Jesus.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 06:04 PM (Ivdso)

488 VDH has to be one of the most thoughtful writers I've ever had the pleasure to read.

If VDH believes the FBI is beyond redemption, people should listen, because Mr. Hanson is far from a knee-jerk reactionary.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 17, 2022 05:33 PM (5pTK/)

So true.
Posted by: LASue at August 17, 2022 05:55 PM (Ed8Zd)
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Yup.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 17, 2022 06:05 PM (anj39)

489 I love that the self-appointed chaplain can't follow the first two rules of business. Mind your own. Stay out of other peoples.

what's the word for when you accuse others of something you're doing?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 06:05 PM (Ivdso)

490 I use profanity because of my lack of intellectual depth. Probably also a character flaw.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 17, 2022 06:06 PM (HJDAV)

491 >>>I don't think it a division to note that most of the wealth of this country is in the hands of the Boomer generation, and they would like to preserve their wealth.


The oldest people usually have the most wealth, IIRC, at any point in time.

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 17, 2022 06:06 PM (tQL7r)

492 Does Sudden Infant Death believe there's 270 million mentally ill people in the U$.S.?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 17, 2022 05:55 PM (eGTCV)

That 3X figure is pure fantasy, and any numerical advantage that may exist in raw numbers disregards the fact that they are concentrated, highly dependent upon infrastructure, and relatively unarmed and at the mercy of their leftist benefactors and their criminal elements. Sid talks a retarded game, probably as a result of syphilis.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 06:06 PM (yHsuS)

493 If the generation before you wasn't here, you wouldn't be here either.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2022 06:06 PM (geRMl)

494 The left should be worried about the violence they're inflicting on themselves instead of civil war. Thanks to Soro's DA's I see the criminals deciding to run roughshod over the police, gov. and citizens in major cities in the next few years.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 17, 2022 06:06 PM (qH6FZ)

495 I am of the opinion that, generally speaking, every complaint that every generation has about the ones that came after it are true. Going back to Adam.

That argument can be made when viewed in the long cycle of a given society: "Hard times makes for strong men..."

When I look at what the Founders of this country put up with and accomplished, I look at myself as utter trash and massive disappointment.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 17, 2022 06:06 PM (3hSHB)

496 VDH has to be one of the most thoughtful writers I've ever had the pleasure to read.

If VDH believes the FBI is beyond redemption, people should listen, because Mr. Hanson is far from a knee-jerk reactionary.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 17, 2022 05:33 PM (5pTK/)

So true.
Posted by: LASue at August 17, 2022 05:55 PM (Ed8Zd)
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In fact, I"d be surprised if the California State Police (acting on the inevitable anonymous tip) raid VDH's place...as a favor to the Dems from the Gov.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 17, 2022 06:06 PM (anj39)

497 fine, pence, give us a special prosecutor to go after these ped fed devils with the ferocity of weissmann going after trump world.

I want to punish civil rights violations, folks discussing using dc juries who will punish any republican. you know, conspiracy

Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 17, 2022 06:06 PM (OuH7W)

498 what's the word for when you accuse others of something you're doing?

Tell me how I'm in you're business. Or how I follow anybody around trying to "expose them". I'll wait.

Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 06:06 PM (UdwG8)

499 490 I use profanity because of my lack of intellectual depth. Probably also a character flaw.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 17, 2022 06:06 PM (HJDAV)


Fukkin-A

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 17, 2022 06:07 PM (QSjkU)

500 News flash: The EffBeeEye warns of potential riots and insurrection after they arrested the recently elected president and replaced him with the EffBeeEye director as Acting-President-for-Life.

"To protect our democracy, we arrested the duly elected president who recently won a majority of electoral votes and was sworn in on Inauguration Day yesterday," said now-president Christopher Wray. "He refused to genuflect before my presence and thus posed an obvious and immediate threat to the American people. It's all perfect legal, we had a warrant signed by Judge Judy. If you criticize us, then you must be a white supremacist."

Posted by: Maggie Haveherman at August 17, 2022 06:07 PM (1gif2)

501 I use profanity because of my lack of intellectual depth.

My mom always used to say it was a sign of a bankrupt vocabulary: you don't know the words to use to say what you want, so you throw in an F-bomb or S-word or whatever.

I think there's a lot to that. I know young people might find this very difficult to believe but there was a time when people didn't swear in public, and tried not to swear around kids and women. They'd swear but between each other while working the crab boat or in the foxhole, not walking down the street.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 06:07 PM (Ivdso)

502 In fact, I"d be surprised if the California State Police (acting on the inevitable anonymous tip) raid VDH's place...as a favor to the Dems from the Gov.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 17, 2022 06:06 PM (anj39)
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Yeah, that thought crossed my mind also.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 17, 2022 06:07 PM (5pTK/)

503 I don't think it a division to note that most of the wealth of this country is in the hands of the Boomer generation, and they would like to preserve their wealth.
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The oldest people usually have the most wealth, IIRC, at any point in time.


Yeah. But for the first time in my fifty years, they're actively pulling up the ladder.

Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 06:08 PM (UdwG8)

504 I trust Mike Pence every bit as much as I trust the FIB.

Posted by: setnaffa at August 17, 2022 06:08 PM (bYETr)

505 @496 Reuben Hicks-I think they would have written another really good well thought out break up letter by now.

Posted by: JROD at August 17, 2022 06:08 PM (0jZnq)

506 490 I use profanity because of my lack of intellectual depth. Probably also a character flaw.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 17, 2022 06:06 PM (HJDAV)

Same here. I also like Mannix's chick pics. It's fucking crippling me.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 17, 2022 06:08 PM (Qhnrt)

507

Profanity is the refuge of illiterate motherfuckers.

Posted by: Dr Nick Riviera at August 17, 2022 06:09 PM (MmNRJ)

508 "What kind of monetary exchange would there be? And who would control the printing and money supply? Would our exchange still be in dollars? Just throwing that out there." Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons

yeah, it would probably have to retain the USD, but the Fed Reserve would have to be grossly reworked, and fed governors ... and the QE and MMT crap ended. ... Beyond my paygrade, but maybe a good time to refinance the debt.

(pay off all bond creditors with one time QE, but tied to a "no deficit spending" federal law like states have though states still go deep in debt, magically, despite "balanced budgets". Cancel a lot of debts ... sorry, you took risk on bonds, you take one time Haircut.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 17, 2022 06:09 PM (Cus5s)

509 "they really just think they're rah-rahing for George Bush's re-election"
Because he was a perfect Republican Progressive - military, law and order, low taxes. And that's what so very many of the Republican establishment are: Progressives.

(Of course, a vast amount of the American electorate is progressive to some extent, too. Yes, even a LOT of the so-called 'conservatives'. It's how we voted ourselves into this.)

Posted by: GWB at August 17, 2022 06:09 PM (P/Z4E)

510 People who generate IP made good money on their inventions. Apple, Google and the other megaliths stole these ideas figuring that lawyers were cheaper than royalties. Trump changed that, but this current crop of filth has restored the theft.

How many inventions have you had stolen by big tech? I'm guessing zero. I have patents. Big tech never stole any of mine. If you had patents they wouldn't be stealing yours either. But if you don't have any at all they're certainly not helping you build wealth (FWIW, patents are overrated).

There is a huge reason why people go to Ivy League colleges
Posted by: Reuben Hick


Yeah and hot chicks get all the guys too. Not fair. By far the vast majority of people who make money didn't go to Ivy League.

I'm out on this conversation. Your outlook is your biggest impediment. You can call me boomer for saying that.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 06:09 PM (e+yf1)

511 Victor Davis Hanson has been a must-read for decades. He combines a vast understanding of history with a keen eye at reading current events. He's very literate and well spoken, of a sort rare these days.

Naturally nobody of any importance or power listens to him.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 06:10 PM (Ivdso)

512 That Pence guy. What a pussy.

Posted by: David French at August 17, 2022 06:10 PM (JPjqa)

513 I think there's a lot to that. I know young people might find this very difficult to believe but there was a time when people didn't swear in public, and tried not to swear around kids and women. They'd swear but between each other while working the crab boat or in the foxhole, not walking down the street.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 06:07 PM (Ivdso)
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I used swearing as a tactic. If I was swearing, the kids knew they were in trouble. Completely calculated on my part, but, I'm pretty sure the kids darn will knew if dad was swearing, they'd really stepped in it.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 17, 2022 06:10 PM (5pTK/)

514 Nood.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 17, 2022 06:10 PM (HJDAV)

515 Remember that the FBI, all the way down to and especially for field agents, they "interview" targets WITHOUT recording except for hand notes and the memory of two agents who will corroborate any record/lie they conspire. Could be innocent and valid. But we KNOW that process is abused and is an inherent flaw in the system designed to give agents a legal advantage for any court proceedings. The abuse it built into the system.

So, yeah, the FBI needs dissolution AND new rules/laws instituted to protect the civil rights of citizens who may well be illegitimately targeted.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at August 17, 2022 06:11 PM (aXxgO)

516 Profanity is using a different color. Those who rail against profanity simply don't know how to paint using that particular shade. Hence, why they insist nobody use it.

Sometimes, "FUCK" is precisely the perfect word to use in the situation.

Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 06:11 PM (UdwG8)

517 Seriously, the glass is half full. At least. Look forwards, not backwards.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 06:01 PM (e+yf1)


It's 2022.

That glass is half-full of piss.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 17, 2022 06:12 PM (xhaym)

518 Golly, who thought Mike Pence would make a good VP?

==

I guess it was because he was going to pull in the Christian midwest? In the beginning, I just thought he was a harmless fencepost. Another do-nothing with no stones to advance our side, but one who was a good guy at heart, one who meant well. Now I know that's not the case.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 17, 2022 06:12 PM (sVtYq)

519 Huh.

When did the FBI become a bunch of silly Drama Queens?

Dirty Bomb. Uh-huh. Sure. Yeah. Right.

Oh, and Civil War. Yeah, yeah. I'm sure that's happening tomorrow.

My eyes rolled so hard they popped outta my head and rolled down to Whataburger to get the new Blue Cheese Burger, then stopped off a Inkberry for some froghurt. They almost went to a Water Park but rolled back since I was blind and all.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 17, 2022 06:12 PM (5NkmN)

520 Every word has its place and use, in the proper context. But those who use words out of context or proper place for emotional impact, to seem cool, or just because they have never learned a better vocabulary are not doing so because they are more clever and literate than others.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 06:12 PM (Ivdso)

521 I use profanity because of my lack of intellectual depth. Probably also a character flaw.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 17, 2022 06:06 PM (HJDAV)


Hemingway used a lot of profanity. Make of that what you will.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at August 17, 2022 06:13 PM (guGkK)

522 The oldest people usually have the most wealth, IIRC, at any point in time.

Yeah. But for the first time in my fifty years, they're actively pulling up the ladder.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 06:08 PM (UdwG

Not sure what you mean. Certainly not us. Husband works his ass off so he can keep employing people; he struggles to get them come to work and not "work from home"; we give scholarships to needy kids - so did my folks who were solidly middle class. And we invest in worthwhile people and companies. No one is trying to leave the future behind, we just don't like the Antifa contingent.

Posted by: LASue at August 17, 2022 06:13 PM (Ed8Zd)

523 >>>Or, you know, maybe most of them built wealth by working their asses off for most of their lives instead of complaining about their parents?

Posted by: quantum mechanic


That's what I was trying to say at 491.


Posted by: Prime Sister at August 17, 2022 06:13 PM (tQL7r)

524 The oldest people usually have the most wealth, IIRC, at any point in time.
Posted by: Prime Sister


The power of compounding. Came up in conversation with my kids when they were musing on what would happen if people live forever.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 06:14 PM (e+yf1)

525 You give $500,000 to a college and yes, your kid gets in. The end.

Posted by: free tibet at August 17, 2022 06:14 PM (iNp3L)

526 Pence is pretty much devolved into the standard Pol that gets told what to say and says it...the whole religious man, or conservative guy from the Mid-West was just a suit sown for someone in his election team that was fitted for him.

He's pretty much hollow inside. Whatever real convictions he has deep inside have long since been usurped by his election/PR team.

Posted by: Boswell at August 17, 2022 06:14 PM (+Cgut)

527 Every word has its place and use, in the proper context. But those who use words out of context or proper place for emotional impact, to seem cool, or just because they have never learned a better vocabulary are not doing so because they are more clever and literate than others.

I feel the same way about those who spew "Back the Blue" or "Freedom Isn't Free" in a Pavlovian manner. And that most definitely includes IronGrampa.

Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 06:14 PM (UdwG8)

528 Golly, who thought Mike Pence would make a good VP?

They were fooled by his looks as a slightly gayer, twigboy version of Race Bannon.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 17, 2022 06:15 PM (5NkmN)

529 Another advantage to breaking it up into smaller pieces is that it's less likely to jam the wood chipper.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at August 17, 2022 06:17 PM (UXS/A)

530 Seat of the pants calculations like Sid's is how the blues revamped the Taliban arsenal.

Sure it's all going to work out like the 2 seconds you thought about it while scratching your ass.

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 06:19 PM (OaZlZ)

531 338 Mike Pence can eat a bag of monkey pox infected dicks.
Posted by: nurse ratched

With his office door wide open

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at August 17, 2022 06:19 PM (UXS/A)

532 485 That son of a bitch had both hands on both shoulders!
Posted by: Dr Nick Riviera at August 17, 2022 06:03 PM (MmNRJ)
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He had four hands?

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at August 17, 2022 06:20 PM (AxHiq)

533 522 Posted by: LASue

It's interesting. I don't recall my generation (X) blaming our circumstances on our parents. I just remember thinking they had to rebuild after WWII.

(I am older X and my parents are youngest silent).

I remember conversations with my grandparents about the depression.

Maybe we don't complain enough. (not that my parents or gp did).

We should start talking about not being able to buy a house when interest rates were 15%. Or losing half our meager savings in the .com bust. Or the long winter of the early aughts where the stock market went nowhere. Or losing (or almost losing) our entire businesses we'd worked for 10-20 years on in the global financial crisis and having to start from nothing again. Etc.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 06:21 PM (e+yf1)

534 >>Golly, who thought Mike Pence would make a good VP?

Classic election consulting - "you need a standard 1-A religious mid-westerner with Christian conservative values!" says Joey Man-bun from K Street just down from the Capitol building. And so Trump gets the limp wristed, non-value holding Pence to offset his Northeastern Pedigree that internal polling says offputs Grammy in Duluth...

Its bullshit...

Posted by: Boswell at August 17, 2022 06:22 PM (+Cgut)

535 On my screen right now:
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In coming weeks, Liz will be launching an organization to educate the American people about the ongoing threat to our Republic, and to mobilize a united effort to oppose any Donald Trump campaign for president. -- Jeremy Adler
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I like how they can call the likely act of whining and demanding that you must just believe them "to educate".

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 06:25 PM (OaZlZ)

536 434. Posted by: Sid at August 17, 2022 05:51 PM (yTzGR)


Old age and treachery will always beat youth and exuberance.

David Mamet

Posted by: Lola at August 17, 2022 06:28 PM (NIYa7)

537 That glass is half-full of piss.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 17, 2022 06:12 PM (xhaym)
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But the other half is ginger ale!

Posted by: An Optimist at August 17, 2022 06:29 PM (OaZlZ)

538 It IS completely ridiculous to want to defund the FBI, disbanding them is by far the better option.

Whichever Republican gets in next has to destroy the big state so thoroughly that it can never be used as a weapon again. Eliminating Federal taxes would be a start.

Posted by: stv at August 17, 2022 06:42 PM (gtOq8)

539 Dark times. Winter is coming.

Posted by: JM in Florida at August 17, 2022 06:59 PM (PUylJ)

540
Make the FBI REGIONAL Oriented. 8 or 12 regions, each with their own director, own organization. No Powerful FBI Chief. Additionally make it so the Washington DC region has no permanent anything. It should be a region staffed by and supervised by the heads of the other regions on a rotating basis. A rotating committee of say five regional FBI Chiefs supervise the DC Region, each with a two year term, then gone for many years.


Every four years the entire staffs of the regional offices compete in a "death match decimation" during which they engage in hand to hand combat to the death until 10% of their numbers are killed off. That will keep staffs lean and mean and eliminate the deadwood.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 17, 2022 07:02 PM (pNxlR)

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