Did the DOJ and FBI Lie To Get Another Warrant, This One to Recover Documents Exposing Their Crimes In Getting the Previous Fraudulent Russiagate Warrants?

Neo-Neocon shared this theory, written up by her commenter TJ Olsen, but offered by Robert Barnes on Viva Frei's podcast.

Federal defense attorney and aggressive Con Law advocate, Robert Barnes, has an unexpected take on the Deep State's further engagement with ex-Prez Trump.

He believes that it wasn't egregious overreaching. Instead, he argues that indications support his argument that Trump asked heads of Departments what documents they absolutely would not want to see declassified? (This has been mooted elsewhere.)

And then declassified them and secreted them away as insurance over the Deep State.

Thus, Barnes argues that the MAL raid was an aggressive attempt by the Deep State to regain possession of said documents from Trump and keep their wrongful heinous deeds hidden or simply destroyed outright.

The huge size and strategy of going in -- hoping to be secretive and hoping that if discovered, it would redound against Trump, smacks of audacious desperation! In other words, incredibly risky.

Further, he thinks that an overly broad warrant is consistent with his theory.

He adds many details. I have to listen again to his development of his points, from around 20 to 60 minutes mark, in this recent interview hosted by Viva Frei.

While I think there's a good chance that theory is overall right, the right absolutely must not follow the left in The Walls Are Closing In/The Train Is Running Out of Track claims.

I do not for one second believe there are a handful of documents that establish, conclusively, the case that the Deep State committed a coup -- for crying out loud, why would the Deep State coupists write that down? That's not how it works.

As you may have heard, Holocaust deniers/Hitler apologists are fond of pointing out that Hitler did not sign any order to undertake the final solution. Yes, he was careful about that and gave his orders verbally to Heydrich and others to relay his orders to the rest of the Nazi High Command.

I'm pretty sure our coupists have learned a thing or two from Hitler.

Another reason to doubt there's a smoking gun memo: Trump would have already have released that. He wouldn't just be holding on to it for future leverage.

Still, while one must not fall into the trap of imagining that These Documents Mean The Much-Prophesized Storm Is Finally Here, one can imagine they contain information the plotters would find embarrassing and would prefer to not have to answer about at all.

And in fact a Newsweek article claim that Trump was in fact "hoarding" documents about Russiagate, and that the main point of this raid was to collect up these damaging documents and hide them once more.

The FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago last Monday was specifically intended to recover Donald Trump's personal "stash" of hidden documents, two high-level U.S. intelligence officials tell Newsweek.

To justify the unprecedented raid on a former president's residence and protect the source who revealed the existence of Trump's private hoard, agents went into Trump's residence on the pretext that they were seeking all government documents, says one official who has been involved in the investigation. But the true target was this private stash, which Justice Department officials feared Donald Trump might weaponize.

"They collected everything that rightfully belonged to the U.S. government but the true target was these documents that Trump had been collecting since early in his administration," says the source, who was granted anonymity to discuss sensitive issues.

The source says that the negotiations to return the documents the National Archives claimed must be returned were cordial -- until the DOJ and FBI were tipped that Trump had Russiagate documents.

And then they decided they had to raid Mar-a-Lago to get those documents, using the pretext of recovering the fairly mundane National Archives documents as cover.

But in the course of its investigation, the FBI and Justice became aware of Trump's private collection. As Newsweek previously reported, a confidential human source revealed that the former president wasn't planning to divulge that he had possession of some of his own documents and that he did not intend to return them.

...

The two U.S. officials with direct knowledge of the situation tell Newsweek that while some of the intelligence documents might have dealt with nuclear weapons, that was not the main focus. "Donald Trump kept documents that interested him," one of those officials says, "sometimes Iranian or North Korean nukes, sometimes Ukraine or Russia, some foreign leaders." It wasn't the subject matter per se that was of interest to Justice as it was fear that Trump might "weaponize" the information, including for personal gain, the official says.

Like, for example, exposing the misdeeds of the Russiagate coupists?


"Trump was particularly interested in matters related to the Russia hoax and the wrong-doings of the deep state," one former Trump official tells Newsweek. "I think he felt, and I agree, that these are facts that the American people need to know." The official says Trump may have been planning to use them as part of a 2024 run for the presidency.

The high-level U.S. government officials explain that it was not necessarily the classification level of the documents nor even their subject matter that investigators were focused on.

"All official documents, regardless of classification, are required to be returned to the Archives under the Presidential Records Act," one of the officials says. "And surely the FBI was going about its business of retrieving everything."

The source say that it is helpful to think about their being two different sets of documents: the National Archives documents mentioned in the warrant, which the FBI is not really interested in, but which they claimed "exposed sources and methods" in order to justify the extremely broad search warrant, and the actual Russiagate documents, which were their true quarry, but which they did not want to admit.

And which they might have very dubious legal pretext to seize, because Trump actually declassified them. Though, as John Solomon reported, the DOJ then slow-rolled the declassification order and informed Trump hours before he left office they needed more time to go through redactions -- thus claiming that the declassification had not gone through. Bullshit; the president's order was legally effective as soon as he gave it. A partisan leftwing bureaucrat has no right or power to veto him.

Two other morsels to chew on, which may be congruent, or incongruent, with the above reportage.

First: Paul Sperry, who Twitter banned without cause or explanation, reports that Hillary Clinton has been lobbying the DOJ hard to raid Trump's home and seize his documents for months now.

clintonbehindpush.jpg

Some of my friends caution to take Sperry with a grain of salt, as his sources are wrong as often as they are right.

Posobiec does not say if he is reporting the following or just speculating it:

Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸
@JackPosobiec

The DOJ affidavit is based on that NY Times article Maggie H wrote a while back, mixed in with hearsay and innuendo. That's why they won't release it

Screenshot this

He links this New York Times article, telling the story of the bitter liberal retiring National Archives director who saw Trump leaving the White House with boxes and decided that this needed to be investigated.

In a statement, David S. Ferriero, the archivist of the United States, did not criticize Mr. Trump or directly accuse him of violating the Presidential Records Act. But Mr. Ferriero strongly defended the National Archives' mission and the need for presidents to follow federal record keeping laws.

"The Presidential Records Act is critical to our democracy, in which the government is held accountable by the people," Mr. Ferriero said. "Whether through the creation of adequate and proper documentation, sound records management practices, the preservation of records or the timely transfer of them to the National Archives at the end of an administration, there should be no question as to need for both diligence and vigilance. Records matter."

Tucker Carlson offered more texture to this story. He says this bitter liberal bureaucrat saw Trump leaving with the boxes on TV, and huffily exclaimed, "What's in those boxes?!," as if a man leaving an office he'd worked in for four years would not be expected to leave with boxes. And lobbied the DOJ to open up a file on it, ostensibly to make sure Trump didn't take any of his precious National Archives material.

Meanwhile he gave Obama millions of documents to keep in his unbuilt "library."

I've seen various speculations that the real reason the DOJ refuses to show the affidavit supporting their bullshit warrant is that it is based on media reports like this one -- which is the same M.O. by which they obtained their Russiagate warrants, citing media reports for which they themselves were the unacknowledged sources.

Will Mitch McConnell, Kevin McCarthy, and Eyepatch John McCain demand to know whether Hillary Clinton or her lawyers or allies has been in contact with the DOJ about this, pushing another Russiagate on to the DOJ and FBI, which the DOJ and FBI promptly decided to take up?

Or will they just go along with it?

Spoiler: The latter.


Both of the below are worth watching, if you have the time.

Posted by: Ace at 03:24 PM




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1 First!!!

Posted by: Greyman27 at August 17, 2022 03:24 PM (RKLPC)

2 Yeah. Now for the content.

Posted by: Greyman27 at August 17, 2022 03:26 PM (RKLPC)

3 not sponge

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 17, 2022 03:26 PM (LvTSG)

4 Did the DOJ and FBI Lie

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yes

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2022 03:27 PM (IXpV7)

5 So, basically, a legalized Watergate on steroids.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 17, 2022 03:27 PM (H8QX8)

6 "I've seen various speculations that the real reason the DOJ refuses to show the affidavit supporting their bullshit warrant is that it is based on media reports like this one -- which is the same M.O. by which they obtained their Russiagate warrants, citing media reports for which they themselves were the unacknowledged sources."

Don't you just love circular reporting/attribution?

Posted by: Thrawn at August 17, 2022 03:28 PM (Rl7KJ)

7 GatewayPundit:

There is no evidence that Peter Strzok ever worked or served in any FBI field office. Nor is there any evidence that Strzok attended the FBI academy in Quantico, Virginia. There is no evidence Strzok ever graduated from Quantico. Any of these would indicate his attachment to the FBI but they cannot be found. Strzok’s history shows that he left the Army and was immediately assigned to the White House.

.. they show a document signed by Strzok with title "Station Chief"
.. could Peter Strzok have worked for the CIA (not the FBI) ?

Posted by: SMOD at August 17, 2022 03:28 PM (RHGPo)

8 Having only partially read the Headline...


Yes. The FBI and DOJ Lied.

Posted by: garrett at August 17, 2022 03:28 PM (IDNOW)

9 Trump has our nuclear launch codes!

Even though Trump has been out of office for a year and a half, since we never change our launch codes, Trump can fire off our ICBMs at any moment!

We **had** to raid his place!

Posted by: The FBI! at August 17, 2022 03:29 PM (I2/tG)

10 In answer to the question in the headline, why not? Nobody is credibily accusing them of integrity.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 17, 2022 03:29 PM (VdGjU)

11 Will Mitch McConnell, Kevin McCarthy, and Eyepatch John McCain demand to know whether Hillary Clinton or her lawyers or allies has been in contact with the DOJ about this, pushing another Russiagate on to the DOJ and FBI, which the DOJ and FBI promptly decided to take up?

Or will they just go along with it?

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McCarthy will stamp his feet in public.

The other two will stay silent.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 17, 2022 03:29 PM (LvTSG)

12 I do not for one second believe there are a handful of documents that establish, conclusively, the case that the Deep State committed a coup -- for crying out loud, why would the Deep State coupists write that down? That's not how it works.
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They do keep records, though, Bureaucracies are meticulous about record-keeping. Was there something incriminating? Maybe. Was it a veritable Rosetta Stone of malfeasance? Maybe, but less likely.

But it doesn't matter where on the "incriminating" spectrum it is, because the people who did it are accountable to no one.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 17, 2022 03:30 PM (WWh8n)

13 The stench of a decaying republic.

Posted by: mr tmz at August 17, 2022 03:30 PM (rJ48h)

14 Of course they did. No doubt.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 17, 2022 03:30 PM (u4CEu)

15 Did the DOJ and FBI Lie To Get Another Warrant, This One to Recover Documents Exposing Their Crimes In Getting the Previous Fraudulent Russiagate Warrants?


Does a bear shit in the woods?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 17, 2022 03:30 PM (LNtgV)

16 >>Trump has our nuclear launch codes!



Oh, thank God!


For a minute there, I thought you said Lunch not Launch.

Posted by: Stacey Abrams at August 17, 2022 03:30 PM (IDNOW)

17 Did the DOJ and FBI Lie?

Is this a trick question??

Posted by: dantesed at August 17, 2022 03:30 PM (2q55B)

18 United States of Banana

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 03:30 PM (krQz2)

19 Per the last thread - England was better to its peasants than the French for a number of reasons, but the Plague was a big one. As bad as it was on the Continent, it was utterly devastating in Britain. It hollowed out the peasants. After it passed, the value of a working man's sweat increased by a huge amount - never again would the English farmer be a disposable commodity.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2022 03:31 PM (IXpV7)

20 >>>For a minute there, I thought you said Lunch not Launch.

Lunch not Launch!!!

Oh no, we're in space now!!!

Posted by: The Way-Out Space Nuts at August 17, 2022 03:31 PM (B3oWe)

21 So what would be Trump's motive for not singing about this now ?

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 17, 2022 03:31 PM (M+Lyo)

22 Did the DOJ and FBI Lie?
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Really?

This needs to be asked?

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 17, 2022 03:31 PM (OCK3i)

23 Again: defund the 3 letter federal agencies and salt the earth they lived on.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 17, 2022 03:31 PM (Ao8WA)

24 Does a bear shit in the woods?
Posted by: rickb223

Friend of mine had a bear break into his rural cabin and shit all over the floors.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 17, 2022 03:31 PM (KAi1n)

25 The source say that it is helpful to think about their being two different sets of documents: the National Archives documents mentioned in the warrant, which the FBI is not really interested in, but which they claimed "exposed sources and methods" in order to justify the extremely broad search warrant, and the actual Russiagate documents, which were their true quarry, but which they did not want to admit.
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A weak excuse used by law enforcement as pretext for executing what is in effect a general warrant to let them do anything they want?

Why, that couldn't happen!!!!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 17, 2022 03:31 PM (WWh8n)

26 Hillary Clinton demanding "revenge"? My God, talk about through-the-looking-glass moral inversion.

Will we ever be rid of this unutterable scourge of a human being?

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 17, 2022 03:32 PM (H8QX8)

27 Hopefully copies were made ,and on another note the DOJ and FIB are awfully anxious to get the recordings of the raid Trump has .

Posted by: It's me donna at August 17, 2022 03:32 PM (bs+z0)

28 Isn't Trump suing Clinton and others regarding the Steele dossier?

Thus, these documents are needed for discovery?

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 17, 2022 03:32 PM (NW9xb)

29 12 But it doesn't matter where on the "incriminating" spectrum it is, because the people who did it are accountable to no one.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 17, 2022 03:30 PM (WWh8n)

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They will answer for their crimes eventually...after a lifetime of living fully on the public teet and retiring early to much applause from fellow degenerates.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 17, 2022 03:32 PM (LvTSG)

30 >>I'm pretty sure our coupists have learned a thing or two from Hitler.


I mean. Sure. Who hasn't, really?

Posted by: garrett at August 17, 2022 03:32 PM (IDNOW)

31 25 A weak excuse used by law enforcement as pretext for executing what is in effect a general warrant to let them do anything they want?

Why, that couldn't happen!!!!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 17, 2022 03:31 PM (WWh8n)

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If there's one thing we should have all learned over the past 6 years, it's that the IC is filled with ham and eggers who only want to see good, constitutional work done well.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 17, 2022 03:33 PM (LvTSG)

32 Trump is surprisingly calm about all of this.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 17, 2022 03:33 PM (OB+je)

33 >>>Isn't Trump suing Clinton and others regarding the Steele dossier?
Thus, these documents are needed for discovery?

oh... is that what that suit is about? I can't keep up with it all.

Posted by: ace at August 17, 2022 03:33 PM (B3oWe)

34 This theory falls inline with the FBI raids about two years ago on Clinton Foundation whistleblowers to collect their materials.

Posted by: SMOD at August 17, 2022 03:33 PM (RHGPo)

35 >>Hillary Clinton demanding "revenge"?


Revenge. For not being prosecuted and jailed.

Posted by: garrett at August 17, 2022 03:33 PM (IDNOW)

36 So, were the nuclear codes involved in Russiax3 scandal?

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 03:33 PM (krQz2)

37 I'm sure the FBI will LOSE them

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 17, 2022 03:33 PM (M+Lyo)

38 Friend of mine had a bear break into his rural cabin and shit all over the floors.
Posted by: SFGoth


There's a reason wildlife lives in the great outdoors toilet.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 17, 2022 03:33 PM (LNtgV)

39 33 >>>Isn't Trump suing Clinton and others regarding the Steele dossier?
Thus, these documents are needed for discovery?

oh... is that what that suit is about? I can't keep up with it all.
Posted by: ace at August 17, 2022 03:33 PM (B3oWe)

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1) Where did Chuy go? #FreetheChuy

2) I think JackStraw's bong has magical detail retention powers. See if he'll give you a hit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 17, 2022 03:33 PM (LvTSG)

40 32 Trump is surprisingly calm about all of this.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 17, 2022 03:33 PM (OB+je)

He's smart.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 17, 2022 03:34 PM (H8QX8)

41 Trump is surprisingly calm about all of this.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 17, 2022 03:33 PM (OB+je)

My thoughts as well '

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 17, 2022 03:34 PM (M+Lyo)

42 Spygate documents you say? What an interesting theory. If only someone had been positing here for the last week in the comments section.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 17, 2022 03:34 PM (ZLI7S)

43 12. People for decades have asked the same question about the Nazis. Why would they keep a these records, take photos and film slaughtering civilians? Proof to your superiors you carried out their orders?

Posted by: Jen the original at August 17, 2022 03:34 PM (lg9Ws)

44 And which they might have very dubious legal pretext to seize, because Trump actually declassified them. Though, as John Solomon reported, the DOJ then slow-rolled the declassification order and informed Trump hours before he left office they needed more time to go through redactions -- thus claiming that the declassification had not gone through. Bullshit; the president's order was legally effective as soon as he gave it. A partisan leftwing bureaucrat has no right or power to veto him.
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This is the lie around which they are coalescing. The president has final authority and there is a process, but it is advisory. The president can choose to not take the advice. This is being framed as "the president cannot declassify unless and until we say so and make our redactions." This is not true, but it is the very consistent story and I think it's what they're going to stick with. Something about lies and world travel and pants comes to mind.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 17, 2022 03:34 PM (WWh8n)

45 Did the DOJ and FBI Lie To Get Another Warrant, This One to Recover Documents Exposing Their Crimes In Getting the Previous Fraudulent Russiagate Warrants?


Hmmmm.. I'm going to go way out on a limb and say ...
YESSSS!!!!

Posted by: LASue at August 17, 2022 03:34 PM (Ed8Zd)

46 Hey, did you guys hear that Trump pees on hookers in Russian hotel rooms? True story.

Posted by: FBI at August 17, 2022 03:34 PM (QYPq3)

47
I seriously don't buy this explanation. Trump would not keep incriminating evidence against his deadly, mortal enemy in his fuckin' house.

This is some weird theory from people who smoke hopium and think Game of Thrones is real life.

It's not complicated. It's a lawless police state, police stating.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2022 03:34 PM (IXpV7)

48 That the DOJ if fighting release of the affidavit, and Trump is not, tells you all you need to know. Furthermore, that if released the DOJ wants redactions for "sources and methods" tell you, a) the planted sourcing from "news" organization has legs, and there is probably a CI within the Trump circle.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 17, 2022 03:34 PM (VpIIl)

49 Isn't Trump suing Clinton and others regarding the Steele dossier?
Thus, these documents are needed for discovery?

oh... is that what that suit is about? I can't keep up with it all.
Posted by: ace at August 17, 2022 03:33 PM


I believe that is what this panty raid was about. tucker carlson thinks that Trump is going to be indicted soon though.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 17, 2022 03:35 PM (bVYXr)

50 Hadn't the govt already seen all the docs earlier this year when they asked them to be locked up?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 17, 2022 03:35 PM (UuD2k)

51 Hillary again?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 17, 2022 03:35 PM (DzcpJ)

52 >>Spygate documents you say? What an interesting theory. If only someone had been positing here for the last week in the comments section.


I actually think Commentor did, now that you mention it.

Posted by: garrett at August 17, 2022 03:35 PM (IDNOW)

53 It should be illegal per se, to try an get a warrant based upon media reporting.

Have none of these people seen ABSENCE OF MALICE?

*headslap*

Posted by: Its clown world anything is possible at August 17, 2022 03:35 PM (3ZJaC)

54 >>>for crying out loud, why would the Deep State coupists write that down? That's not how it works.


Idk about that, Chuy. Their STUPIDITY comes to mind as one answer to your question.

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 17, 2022 03:35 PM (tQL7r)

55 Hillary is the George Soros of crusty pungent pantsuits

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 17, 2022 03:36 PM (DzcpJ)

56 Hillary Clinton demanding "revenge"? My God, talk about through-the-looking-glass moral inversion.

Will we ever be rid of this unutterable scourge of a human being?


She's running in 2024. She believes 100% that she is *owed* the Presidency as a result of marrying Bill Clinton.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 17, 2022 03:36 PM (ZGrMX)

57 Neat.

My mom got printed at The Federalist:

https://tinyurl.com/bdf7xshj

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 17, 2022 03:36 PM (LvTSG)

58 Was the KGB dissolved? I don't believe it was.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 17, 2022 03:36 PM (VdGjU)

59 The same judge that gave the feebs the go is the same one who will be hearing Trump's plea to release the affidavit.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 17, 2022 03:37 PM (OCK3i)

60 Furthermore, that if released the DOJ wants redactions for "sources and methods" tell you, a) the planted sourcing from "news" organization has legs, and there is probably a CI within the Trump circle.
Posted by: Marcus T at August 17, 2022 03:34 PM (VpIIl)
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Just a reminder on "sources and methods": Carter Page's own name was redacted at least once on this own FISA warrant as "sources and methods".

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 03:37 PM (krQz2)

61 >>> 4 Did the DOJ and FBI Lie

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yes
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2022 03:27 PM (IXpV7)

Are their lips moving?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 03:37 PM (llON8)

62 I seriously don't buy this explanation. Trump would not keep incriminating evidence against his deadly, mortal enemy in his fuckin' house.

This is some weird theory from people who smoke hopium and think Game of Thrones is real life.

It's not complicated. It's a lawless police state, police stating.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2022 03:34 PM (IXpV7)
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It seems odd, but you never know. A man's home is his castle, etc. The "they're just police staters police stating" is also entirely possible. So is the possibility that it was a mole hunt by the Trump org and it was all bullshit based on lies to catch a spy.

Roll the dice or spin the wheel. Police staters police stating is the only thing of which anyone can be sure.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 17, 2022 03:37 PM (WWh8n)

63 By the way, you have to get a very specific warrant to crack open a safe. The FBI's warrant didn't cover that. The safe was empty. So- who lied as a pretext to have the safe opened? What lie did they fabricate- that Trump told them he had documents in his safe?

Posted by: Marcus T at August 17, 2022 03:37 PM (VpIIl)

64 Maybe Trump seems calm about all of this because (I hope) he has already copied or scanned the documents he wants and secured them elsewhere. "You want boxes and boxes of paper? Go ahead, take 'em."

Posted by: Frasier Crane at August 17, 2022 03:37 PM (bNf8H)

65 I think Trump has the Epstein information, his client list and videos. Nothing has been more carefully secreted way than the Epstein list, and therefore it must be horribly damaging to the junta.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 17, 2022 03:37 PM (AzEXR)

66 >>>Idk about that, Chuy. Their STUPIDITY comes to mind as one answer to your question.

i added in the post, anything that is smoking gun would have already been released by trump. he wouldn't just hold on to it for shits and giggles.

there is stuff that could implicate these people but only if, say, Julie Kelly and Margot Cleveland go through it and make deductions and prove implications. I can't be smoking gun on its face, or Trump would have already have put it on Truth Social.

Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 17, 2022 03:38 PM (B3oWe)

67 Other correct answers to the quiz question:

a. Duh.
b. Undoubtedly.
c. Of course, don't be naive.
d. One hundred percent.
e. All of the above.

Posted by: LASue at August 17, 2022 03:38 PM (Ed8Zd)

68 Per the last thread - England was better to its peasants than the French for a number of reasons, but the Plague was a big one. As bad as it was on the Continent, it was utterly devastating in Britain. It hollowed out the peasants. After it passed, the value of a working man's sweat increased by a huge amount - never again would the English farmer be a disposable commodity.
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Until recently.

Posted by: Watch Clarkson's Farm - they import their food at August 17, 2022 03:38 PM (ku1Ma)

69 Did the Maoists have an official secret police, or was it just mass hysteria?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 17, 2022 03:38 PM (VdGjU)

70 While I think there's a good chance that theory is overall right, the right absolutely must not follow the left in The Walls Are Closing In/The Train Is Running Out of Track claims.


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A commenter on Instapundit said you could believe that which mean Trump was holding onto evidence for months and the FBI let him have it. Or you could believe the FBI was going on a fishing expedition abusing their power like all the times before.

I'll go with the latter.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 17, 2022 03:38 PM (ajA44)

71 It's not complicated. It's a lawless police state, police stating.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2022 03:34 PM (IXpV7)

I like it. Occam's asswipe.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 17, 2022 03:39 PM (H8QX8)

72 I suppose its possible, but right now we have to be in the wait and see stage, because there's not enough information or evidence for us to consider. It clearly was not a smart idea to go all Goodfellas on Mar-A-Lago, but that made their base happy and gave the deep state some bliss for a while, so maybe it was worth it to them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 03:39 PM (Ivdso)

73 By the way, Trump can hide things in myriad properties. Why pick on Mar-a-Lago?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 17, 2022 03:39 PM (AzEXR)

74 >>> 24 Does a bear shit in the woods?
Posted by: rickb223

Friend of mine had a bear break into his rural cabin and shit all over the floors.
Posted by: SFGoth at August 17, 2022 03:31 PM (KAi1n)

Are you sure it wasn't a raid by the Eff.Bee.EYE?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 03:39 PM (llON8)

75 "I'm pretty sure our coupists have learned a thing or two from Hitler."

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They sure as hell got the propaganda approach and methods down cold.

Posted by: jc at August 17, 2022 03:39 PM (N1WXz)

76 She's running in 2024. She believes 100% that she is *owed* the Presidency as a result of marrying Bill Clinton.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 17, 2022 03:36 PM (ZGrMX)

Sure, but that doesn't mean she'll get away with it. The corrupt-o-crat faction she headed is dying out, and is likely to tie to the biden-led wing any how. The leftist zealots increasingly see no need to knuckle under to the old guard corrupt dems.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 17, 2022 03:39 PM (eoQWY)

77 >>>Posted by: It's Wednesday

oh look who couldn't wait to join the discussion!

Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 17, 2022 03:39 PM (B3oWe)

78
As you may have heard, Holocaust deniers/Hitler apologists are fond of pointing out that Hitler did not sign any order to undertake the final solution. Yes, he was careful about that and gave his orders verbally to Heydrich and others to relay his orders to the rest of the Nazi High Command.



We only know about the Wannsee Conference because a single attendee neglected to destroy his copy of the meeting minutes, most likely out of carelessness rather than design. The document was found by a US Army investigator after the war. Heydrich had ordered all copies of the minutes destroyed, and had written a new set of minutes with all of the frank and explicit language edited out.

On the other hand, the Germans were largely obsessive about record-keeping (just like their stereotype), so even when they destroyed files, there were duplicates found in multiple places, which came back to haunt a lot of the Nazi war criminals.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 17, 2022 03:40 PM (n+4am)

79 This is not true, but it is the very consistent story and I think it's what they're going to stick with. Something about lies and world travel and pants comes to mind.

Posted by: Joe Mannix
---------------------------------------
Yeah, what goes in the Beltway gets yawns in the hinterlands as a process story. Essentially, if living conditions for the voters sux, then all things get stuck to the regime in power fair or not. Nixon for example had a bad economy as the Vietnam hangover and oil shock pushed the US into recession. Have a scandal like Harding--eg Teapot Dome or Reagan's Iran Contra but a decent economy, the stench goes away.

These are lies for consumption within the media and the Beltway, not really for the general public. Smahhrt people are often the easiest to con simply because they are afraid to admit that they don't understand something complicated or to display their ignorance asking questions.

Posted by: whig at August 17, 2022 03:40 PM (CXr4y)

80 77 Sure, but that doesn't mean she'll get away with it. The corrupt-o-crat faction she headed is dying out, and is likely to tie to the biden-led wing any how. The leftist zealots increasingly see no need to knuckle under to the old guard corrupt dems.
Posted by: Oldcat at August 17, 2022 03:39 PM (eoQWY)

==========

"Don't go with the guy who beat Trump, go with the girl who lost to Trump!"
-Her campaign slogan

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 17, 2022 03:40 PM (LvTSG)

81 I think Trump has the Epstein information, his client list and videos. Nothing has been more carefully secreted way than the Epstein list, and therefore it must be horribly damaging to the junta.
Posted by: Huck Follywood
___

The judge who signed off on the raid, the same judge who defended Epstein's buddies, will decide on releasing the affidavit.

I'm sure he'll do the right thing.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 17, 2022 03:40 PM (OCK3i)

82 We've had proof of the Russiagate Hoax since like June of 2017. I can't imagine anyone being too worried about some magic document that proves it all when it's been proven 50 times over.

Posted by: ... at August 17, 2022 03:40 PM (feqn2)

83 How about PDT horde-ing documents!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 17, 2022 03:41 PM (yikp0)

84 >>> 43 12. People for decades have asked the same question about the Nazis. Why would they keep a these records, take photos and film slaughtering civilians? Proof to your superiors you carried out their orders?
Posted by: Jen the original at August 17, 2022 03:34 PM (lg9Ws)

The Stasi kept insanely detailed records too.

What did they have to *hide*? They were the Good Guys (in their minds)!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 03:41 PM (llON8)

85 >>By the way, Trump can hide things in myriad properties. Why pick on Mar-a-Lago?


One way to find a Mole is to share specific and unique info with each person in any org individually.

Posted by: garrett at August 17, 2022 03:41 PM (IDNOW)

86 BTW, the Ukraine just passed a new law that says that if you provide Russian humanitarian aid to anyone in Russian-occupied Ukraine, or accept Russian humanitarian aid from anyone in Russian-occupied Ukraine, you are subject to a prison term of up to fifteen years.

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/
status/1559564391447773186

Ukraine - the world's most perfect democracy!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 17, 2022 03:41 PM (I2/tG)

87 If you want to put all the sadness in the world in a single room, put Hillary and Liz Cheney on a sofa. A very large sofa meant to hold bulbous, fat, nutty, dunces patito feo's wearing Depends.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 17, 2022 03:41 PM (VpIIl)

88
(0ujpI)

Stormfront's thataway, cockbite.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 17, 2022 03:41 PM (n+4am)

89 I think Trump has the Epstein information, his client list and videos. Nothing has been more carefully secreted way than the Epstein list, and therefore it must be horribly damaging to the junta.
==
What if the list, were itemized.

Not just names. But dates, times, dollars, and goods delivered. And if it were a honeypot blackmail operation, which it was, why would that list NOT BE itemized.

That list is the SMOD to DC and the oligarchs, that we've been waiting for.

Posted by: Change my mind at August 17, 2022 03:41 PM (D2DRG)

90 Posbiec is a doomer, and is rooting for Oz to lose. Even though he supports Trump, he links doomer stories from Ny Times frequently. I gave up on him

Posted by: Jonah at August 17, 2022 03:41 PM (AOZtW)

91 Did the DOJ and FBI Lie
.......

Does a frog have a watertight asshole?

Posted by: wth at August 17, 2022 03:41 PM (v0R5T)

92 Former Chief Financial Officer of the Trump Organization (and now convicted felon) has agreed to testify in the tax fraud case building against Trump

Posted by: Paul at August 17, 2022 03:41 PM (1mzvp)

93 They sure as hell got the propaganda approach and methods down cold.

Its the only part that they are pretty good at. They're fumbling idiots bashing into each other like the 3 Stooges trying to build a house at everything else.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 03:41 PM (Ivdso)

94
Hans Frank once sent an illustrated account of his suppression of the Warsaw Uprising by train to Berlin as a gift for the Fuehrer.

People are proud of their accomplishments.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2022 03:41 PM (IXpV7)

95 THE PRESIDENT CAN'T DECLASSIFY DOCUMENTS BUT WE CAN BECAUSE WE'RE THE MEDIA!!!

Something like that?

Posted by: SFGoth at August 17, 2022 03:41 PM (KAi1n)

96 Greg Price
@greg_price11

Pence: "Calls to defund the FBI are just as wrong as calls to defund the police."

https://tinyurl.com/3kaakx29

Posted by: redridinghood at August 17, 2022 03:41 PM (NpAcC)

97 >>People for decades have asked the same question about the Nazis. Why would they keep a these records, take photos and film slaughtering civilians?


They are German.

The Type A thing runs deep.

Posted by: garrett at August 17, 2022 03:41 PM (IDNOW)

98 74 By the way, Trump can hide things in myriad properties. Why pick on Mar-a-Lago?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 17, 2022 03:39 PM (AzEXR)

He ain't stupid. He has multiple copies stored in various places, some overseas I expect.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 17, 2022 03:42 PM (QSjkU)

99 Trolls are just popping up all over the place.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 17, 2022 03:42 PM (OCK3i)

100 OMG, the littles are sneaking around their house in ninja getups, attempting to stealth their way past the "defenses." I am totally pwning them, hiding behind doors, where they run in to me in their attempt to hide in the shadows.

I am LMAO so hard I have a headached.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 03:42 PM (yHsuS)

101 64 Maybe Trump seems calm about all of this because (I hope) he has already copied or scanned the documents he wants and secured them elsewhere. "You want boxes and boxes of paper? Go ahead, take 'em."

Posted by: Frasier Crane at August 17, 2022 03:37 PM (bNf8H)
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As I understand it he's worked with FBI and Nat'l Archives on these documents in the boxes, regarding better security at least, so he had to know, if he didn't already, that they contained hot stuff hence already copied and stashed where they'll never be found by FBI. Probably several copies, some offshore.

Posted by: Ciampino -- DJT is no fool at August 17, 2022 03:42 PM (qfLjt)

102 Is there really a Chewbacca running in Alaska?

Posted by: garrett at August 17, 2022 03:42 PM (IDNOW)

103 >>there is stuff that could implicate these people but only if, say, Julie Kelly and Margot Cleveland go through it and make deductions and prove implications. I can't be smoking gun on its face, or Trump would have already have put it on Truth Social.

I don't know that's true. Not only does he has his huge civil suit against Hillary and the whole Russiagate cabal there's also the Danchenko trial coming up in a few weeks. Another person who seems to think this is at least partially about the Russia documents is Kash Patel and he is in a position to actually know even more than Julie Kelly or Mollie Hemingway since he has been working to get the information out.

I'll turn it around, why would the DOJ/FBI be stupid enough to pull off this raid when a frigging 3 year old could have told it would have blown up in their faces? This has made Trump more popular not less and damaged the feds.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 17, 2022 03:42 PM (ZLI7S)

104 oh look who couldn't wait to join the discussion!

Any idea what the heil he's on about?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at August 17, 2022 03:42 PM (Bd6X8)

105 I'm sure he'll do the right thing.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 17, 2022 03:40 PM (OCK3i)
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Sounds like that's why he was Epstein's lawyer.

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 03:43 PM (krQz2)

106 After it passed, the value of a working man's sweat increased by a huge amount - never again would the English farmer be a disposable commodity.
==
Until recently.
Posted by: Watch Clarkson's Farm - they import their food at August 17, 2022 03:38 PM (ku1Ma)

England lost its feudal elite with their real world limits long ago. Bureaucrats in all ages have been detached from the real world and rife for disasters - see the betrayal at Manzikert where the Byzantine "mandarins" preferred to lose a third of the land to the Turks to settle a score with the Emperor.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 17, 2022 03:43 PM (eoQWY)

107 >>>Any idea what the heil he's on about?


he's saying the holocaust is a Jewish Lie

Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 17, 2022 03:43 PM (B3oWe)

108 And then declassified them and secreted them away as insurance over the Deep State.
______________

And the Deep State was stupid enough to think that Trump would keep them at MAL, and not distributed among a series of other sites.

Top. Men.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 17, 2022 03:43 PM (cE4C5)

109 Not just names. But dates, times, dollars, and goods delivered. And if it were a honeypot blackmail operation, which it was, why would that list NOT BE itemized.

Trump needs to be executed for the good of the country!

Posted by: Bill Clinton and Bill Gates! at August 17, 2022 03:43 PM (I2/tG)

110 On the other hand, the Germans were largely obsessive about record-keeping (just like their stereotype), so even when they destroyed files, there were duplicates found in multiple places, which came back to haunt a lot of the Nazi war criminals.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur
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Many of the older Kaiser Wilhem/aristocrat crowd hated that Man and his cast of evil clowns as parvenus. Admiral Canaris, for one, was that sort and Canaris among others carefully documented all of the Nazis misdeeds. Others like him did likewise especially in the Army.

Posted by: whig at August 17, 2022 03:43 PM (CXr4y)

111 MSM is in disbelief that Cheney lost by 38 points. They are sad because this shows that we are still with Trump in a big way

Posted by: Jonah at August 17, 2022 03:43 PM (AOZtW)

112 Hey Paul. Why don't you go fuck yourself?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 17, 2022 03:43 PM (QSjkU)

113 Proof to your superiors you carried out their orders?

Germans are bastards about proper record keeping and book work.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 03:44 PM (Ivdso)

114 Trump would not keep incriminating evidence against his deadly, mortal enemy in his fuckin' house.
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Right. If Trump had documents proving that Russian collusion was a hoax, then he's still got them. No one would have kept them in the designated FBI-approved document storage room.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 17, 2022 03:44 PM (sWM8x)

115
I'll turn it around, why would the DOJ/FBI be stupid enough to pull off this raid when a frigging 3 year old could have told it would have blown up in their faces? This has made Trump more popular not less and damaged the feds.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 17, 2022 03:42 PM (ZLI7S)

Could be bureaucratic incompetence.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 17, 2022 03:44 PM (b2nrj)

116 107 >>>Any idea what the heil he's on about?


he's saying the holocaust is a Jewish Lie
Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 17, 2022 03:43 PM (B3oWe)

=========

Eisenhower was in on it!

\sarc

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 17, 2022 03:44 PM (LvTSG)

117 If morons have time, take a look at J. E. Dyer's take on all this, on her 'OptimisticConservative' blog.

She's pretty convinced the raid was to taint Trump's evidence regarding RussiaGate. (I'm summarizing)

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 17, 2022 03:44 PM (XvPQV)

118 Well , if I had super sekret documents that did not want a certain agency to find, I would definitely keep them in my house.

Posted by: runner at August 17, 2022 03:44 PM (eisI8)

119 >>>MSM is in disbelief that Cheney lost by 38 points. They are sad because this shows that we are still with Trump in a big way

Posted by: Jonah at August 17, 2022 03:43 PM (AOZtW)

They're sad because it's an L for Stan.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at August 17, 2022 03:45 PM (QYPq3)

120 If this was an operation to get the Super Secret Macguffin Papers, why would they take his passports?

Why wouldn't they be absolutely fundamentally meticulous about what was taken and left, so as not to leave any doubt or question about the Moral Integrity and Law Abidingness of the operation.

The truth is this is just another phase of the same tired op. They want us to know what they can do and they want to smear shit on our face for daring to notice.

Posted by: ... at August 17, 2022 03:45 PM (feqn2)

121 >>he's saying the holocaust is a Jewish Lie


You have his address? I can call in a lighning strike.

Posted by: garrett at August 17, 2022 03:45 PM (IDNOW)

122 These are lies for consumption within the media and the Beltway, not really for the general public. Smahhrt people are often the easiest to con simply because they are afraid to admit that they don't understand something complicated or to display their ignorance asking questions.

Posted by: whig at August 17, 2022 03:40 PM (CXr4y)

Cromulent observation.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 03:45 PM (yHsuS)

123 Greg Price
@greg_price11

Pence: "Calls to defund the FBI are just as wrong as calls to defund the police."

https://tinyurl.com/3kaakx29
Posted by: redridinghood at August 17, 2022 03:41 PM (NpAcC)
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Simple-minded crap.

"Defund the police" says defund every organization on every level that has the role.

"Defund the FIB" says defund ONE organization, because they are NOT doing the role well.

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 03:45 PM (krQz2)

124 https://tinyurl.com/bdf7xshj
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

That's your mom?
She's smart!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 17, 2022 03:45 PM (DzcpJ)

125 The nuclear codes are ...

one

two

three

four

five.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 17, 2022 03:46 PM (44ww/)

126 I'll turn it around, why would the DOJ/FBI be stupid enough to pull off this raid when a frigging 3 year old could have told it would have blown up in their faces? This has made Trump more popular not less and damaged the feds.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 17, 2022 03:42 PM (ZLI7S)

Because our elite has been told they are super smart since they were toddlers without having any practical life lessons. They know no history, morality, or sense. Even corrupt Machine Politics Dems of the old days had to respect the voters to turn them out, and give them something in return.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 17, 2022 03:46 PM (eoQWY)

127 124 That's your mom?
She's smart!
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 17, 2022 03:45 PM (DzcpJ)

==========

It is. None of it rubbed off on me, though.

She's always disappointed in me. She's like ace that way.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 17, 2022 03:46 PM (LvTSG)

128 24 Does a bear shit in the woods?
Posted by: rickb223

Friend of mine had a bear break into his rural cabin and shit all over the floors.
Posted by: SFGoth at August 17, 2022 03:31 PM (KAi1n)
____________

He's sure it wasn't antifa/BLM?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 17, 2022 03:46 PM (cE4C5)

129 Sure, because the Jew made up the Holocaust just to get a time country surrounded by people that want them dead.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 17, 2022 03:46 PM (UuD2k)

130 The judge who signed off on the raid, the same judge who defended Epstein's buddies, will decide on releasing the affidavit.

I'm sure he'll do the right thing.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 17, 2022 03:40 PM


He is a magistrate not a Judge and his bosses are already less than pleased with his action.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 17, 2022 03:46 PM (bVYXr)

131 >>> 121 >>he's saying the holocaust is a Jewish Lie


You have his address? I can call in a lighning strike.
Posted by: garrett at August 17, 2022 03:45 PM (IDNOW)

Since when do you get to use the weather machine??

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 03:46 PM (llON8)

132
So the 1 year anniversary of biden letting his taliban partners slaughter 13 American troops, some as young as 19, has come and gone without a mention in the Fake News?

And no mention of all the people hanging off the plane, falling to their deaths?

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 17, 2022 03:46 PM (jmDe3)

133 ...in my house in a box labeled TOP SECRET

Posted by: runner at August 17, 2022 03:46 PM (eisI8)

134 An FBI Form 302 should not ever be certified as "evidence" in any court, ever again. Fact is, we'd be better off if a criminal conviction that relied on "302 evidence" was contested up to the Supreme Court, resulting in a 7-2 decision that "302s" were forever declared Inadmissible in all fifty-seven states.

And while I'm asking for three wishes, let's also pretend that a Republican Congress might pass a law mandating that ANY Federal Law Enforcement interview, to include ALL AGENCIES, must be duly videoed, with unedited copies being instantly available to the interviewee, and/or his/her attorney.

Finally, for my third wish, I'd like a Trump win in 2024, with the percentages from the Wyoming Whuppin' reflected in the Nationwide totals.

It's my lamp, my Genie, and my futility. I'll wish 'em as I want.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 17, 2022 03:47 PM (tkOps)

135 Was cleaning a storage room, and found a very old laptop that has not been used in 10+ years. Fired it up and noticed my old bookmarks. National Review, Weekly Standard, Hot Air, Hedgehog report etc.... Just awful

Posted by: Jonah at August 17, 2022 03:47 PM (AOZtW)

136
I still think that the epicenter of everything is the list of Jeffrey Epstein's friends who visited him and enjoyed the underage female entertainment he provided. Of course Trump has 'the list' everyone on the left imagines. Send in the power of the state under some pretext and get the list, so we can off that biatch in Club Fed.

Might need some polishing here and there, but that's the rough draft.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 17, 2022 03:47 PM (jE276)

137 Did the Maoists have an official secret police, or was it just mass hysteria?
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 17, 2022 03:38 PM (VdGjU)
++++
They had the Red Guard. The Red Guard themselves eventually became a problem. When the Cultural Revolution ended, the Red Guard had to be dissolved and their most fanatical refused to disengage and had to be killed off by the Party to get them to stop.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 17, 2022 03:47 PM (WWh8n)

138 By the way, Trump can hide things in myriad properties. Why pick on Mar-a-Lago?
........

That's where the fresh panties are. Duh.

Posted by: wth at August 17, 2022 03:47 PM (v0R5T)

139 Germans are bastards about proper record keeping and book work.

I recall that there was some German corporate bribery scandal years ago, where the company had meticulously recorded all the bribes that they had paid out.

Somebody commented that only the Germans would do something like that.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 17, 2022 03:47 PM (I2/tG)

140 >>> 130 The judge who signed off on the raid, the same judge who defended Epstein's buddies, will decide on releasing the affidavit.

I'm sure he'll do the right thing.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 17, 2022 03:40 PM


He is a magistrate not a Judge and his bosses are already less than pleased with his action.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 17, 2022 03:46 PM

Overruled! The affidavit must remain TOP SEKRIT!

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge #8620 at August 17, 2022 03:47 PM (llON8)

141 >>Since when do you get to use the weather machine??


We all get one 'event' per year.

After our Bar Mitzvah, of course.

Posted by: garrett at August 17, 2022 03:47 PM (IDNOW)

142 Hard to believe you could get any sites to load on an old browser.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at August 17, 2022 03:47 PM (5HBd1)

143 I think Trump has the Epstein information, his client list and videos. Nothing has been more carefully secreted way than the Epstein list, and therefore it must be horribly damaging to the junta.
Posted by: Huck Follywood

again, if he had that, and if it didn't implicate his allies (like Alan Derschowitz), why didn't he already release it?


why would he have it? It's hard to get sealed stuff from a judge. If Trump asked for it, there would be this huge hue and cry about it.

the fact that you never heard that hue and cry means he never asked for it.

Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 17, 2022 03:47 PM (B3oWe)

144 One way to find a Mole is to share specific and unique info with each person in any org individually.
Posted by: garrett at August 17, 2022 03:41 PM (IDNOW)
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good theory

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 17, 2022 03:47 PM (bO2nW)

145 Because their credibility is in tatters due to past events, the incredible becomes believable.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 17, 2022 03:48 PM (cZ8IN)

146 I'll turn it around, why would the DOJ/FBI be stupid enough to pull off this raid when a frigging 3 year old could have told it would have blown up in their faces?
Posted by: JackStraw at August 17, 2022 03:42 PM (ZLI7S)
______________

Because they're saving OUR DEMOCRACY

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 17, 2022 03:48 PM (cE4C5)

147 I'm going to go with my original reason the FBI raided Melania's underwear drawer...

Hidden underneath her bedroom wear was the recipes to Coca Cola, KFC's original recipe, last known location of Bigfoot and Elvis and definite proof to who shot JFK.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 17, 2022 03:48 PM (3hSHB)

148 "The Presidential Records Act is critical to our democracy, in which the government is held accountable by the people," Mr. Ferriero said. "Whether through the creation of adequate and proper documentation, sound records management practices, the preservation of records or the timely transfer of them to the National Archives at the end of an administration, there should be no question as to need for both diligence and vigilance. Records matter."
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Did this POS have the same concerns when officilals in the Obama era, and including HRC and Obama, used commercial email accounts with pseudonyms in order to circumvent FOIA and the Archives?

Posted by: Ciampino - another lampost is reserved at August 17, 2022 03:48 PM (qfLjt)

149 Pence: "Calls to defund the FBI are just as wrong as calls to defund the police."

https://tinyurl.com/3kaakx29

Posted by: redridinghood at August 17, 2022 03:41 PM (NpAcC)

Ah the old the "Conservative Base are the Real Hypocrites" gambit, recently perfected by Traitorous She-Hag Kristi Noem. Great for rallying people to your electoral side.

Posted by: ... at August 17, 2022 03:48 PM (feqn2)

150 Neat.

My mom got printed at The Federalist:

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I read that as fingerprinted.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 17, 2022 03:48 PM (Ao8WA)

151 I'll repeat my theory: the WH ordered the raid hoping to embarrass the gop and find dirt to harm Trump. Garland didn't know about it because the admin told their supporters in the FBI directly, but when it became clear that the backlash was widespread he was told to take responsibility for it.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 17, 2022 03:49 PM (w6KZ+)

152 Did the DOJ and FBI Lie To Get Another Warrant, This One to Recover Documents Exposing Their Crimes In Getting the Previous Fraudulent Russiagate Warrants?

Magic 8 Ball says "Highly likely" since they are both basically criminal organizations at this point.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 17, 2022 03:49 PM (wvo9L)

153 58 Was the KGB dissolved? I don't believe it was.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 17, 2022 03:36 PM (VdGjU)

Yeah it was. The KGB was involved with the coup to maintain the USSR iirc.

The dissolution of the KGB lead to many of them operating privately for the oligarchs, leading to a period of chaos and rampant murder, which Putin was instrumental in resolving (seemingly by giving many of them government jobs again).

Y'know how in the 90s Russian businessmen were always getting kidnapped, tortured, and/or killed? That's due to things like the KGB going private.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 17, 2022 03:49 PM (b2nrj)

154 Admiral Canaris's pre-WWII life story would be fantastic. Dude was a superhero/spy etc. Fluent in 6 languages, including English.

Posted by: SFGoth at August 17, 2022 03:49 PM (KAi1n)

155 133 ...in my house in a box labeled TOP SECRET
Posted by: runner at August 17, 2022 03:46 PM (eisI

This is why we had to go through Melania's panty drawer.

Posted by: FBI - Top Men at August 17, 2022 03:49 PM (QSjkU)

156 ...in my house in a box labeled TOP SECRET
Posted by: runner at August 17, 2022 03:46 PM (eisI
........

DO NOT TOUCH

Posted by: wth at August 17, 2022 03:49 PM (v0R5T)

157 An FBI Form 302 should not ever be certified as "evidence" in any court, ever again. Fact is, we'd be better off if a criminal conviction that relied on "302 evidence" was contested up to the Supreme Court, resulting in a 7-2 decision that "302s" were forever declared Inadmissible in all fifty-seven states. ...
Posted by: Jim at August 17, 2022 03:47 PM (tkOps)
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Yup. The entire 302 system is designed for deceit and dishonesty and railroading. We have audiotape now. The 302 system should be for exceptions only (for example, an interview in a hallway at the subject's place of business where recording equipment is not available), and even in those exceptional cases it should *never* be the basis for anything.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 17, 2022 03:49 PM (WWh8n)

158 Bullshit; the president's order was legally effective as soon as he gave it. A partisan leftwing bureaucrat has no right or power to veto him.
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Yes, as if a midlevel bureaucrat in a shitty department no one cares about and few have ever heard of gets to decide which documents are declassification-worthy and not the President and C-in-C.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 17, 2022 03:49 PM (yikp0)

159 Pence is an idiot.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 17, 2022 03:49 PM (w6KZ+)

160 In a box labeled TOP SEKRET, in a storage facility already visited by said agency,,,

Posted by: runner at August 17, 2022 03:49 PM (eisI8)

161 143. Exactly. I'm sick of " we'll release it when the time is right". Just fucking do it. Let chaos reign for a while

Posted by: CN at August 17, 2022 03:49 PM (Zzbjj)

162 I do not believe Hillary has the pull with the FBI to get this search warrant. She may have gotten some damaging document as a quid pro quo, but, primary mover?

No.

However, Obama still has plenty of juice in the DOJ. I'm guessing there might have been damaging documents relating to Burisma in Trump's possession and those document also implicated Obama.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 17, 2022 03:50 PM (5pTK/)

163 >>Could be bureaucratic incompetence.

Possible but occam's razor tells me they wanted these documents to never see the light of day which is why they have kept them hidden for 6 years and thought it was worth risk of bad PR to recover them.

One of the earliest reasons the DOJ gave for going after the documents is that their release would jeopardize signal intelligence sources and methods. I read that as spying and it wasn't just on Trump. If proof of what they were really doing to American citizens was released to the public all hell would break loose.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 17, 2022 03:50 PM (ZLI7S)

164
More planned chaos:

They are "remade" a new fake A League Of Their Own tv series.


Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 17, 2022 03:50 PM (jmDe3)

165 Per the last thread - England was better to its peasants than the French for a number of reasons, but the Plague was a big one. As bad as it was on the Continent, it was utterly devastating in Britain. It hollowed out the peasants. After it passed, the value of a working man's sweat increased by a huge amount - never again would the English farmer be a disposable commodity.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
______________________

The development of property rights was another. Liberty and property rights are, generally speaking, directly proportional.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 17, 2022 03:50 PM (es0Dj)

166 Pence is a tool.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 17, 2022 03:50 PM (cZ8IN)

167 BTW, the Ukraine just passed a new law that says that if you provide Russian humanitarian aid to anyone in Russian-occupied Ukraine, or accept Russian humanitarian aid from anyone in Russian-occupied Ukraine, you are subject to a prison term of up to fifteen years.

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/
status/1559564391447773186

Ukraine - the world's most perfect democracy!
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 17, 2022 03:41 PM (I2/tG)

That is interesting - it means that Russia likely will have to end the Ukranian state entirely, or perhaps have it partitioned with Poland and other states. They already know from the past that these atrocities will be carried out if they get a chance.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 17, 2022 03:50 PM (eoQWY)

168 Thanks for Dave in FL, for his take on the Alaska races. Other conservative sites think Palin is in trouble, but Dave sorts it out

Posted by: Jonah at August 17, 2022 03:50 PM (AOZtW)

169 >>...in my house in a box labeled TOP SECRET


Spell it with a backwards 'S' and a 'k' and they'll think it belongs to your Cat.

Posted by: garrett at August 17, 2022 03:50 PM (IDNOW)

170 159. I told Marco to fuck right off due to his current Pence connection

Posted by: CN at August 17, 2022 03:50 PM (Zzbjj)

171 How do we cut this gordita knot...

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 17, 2022 03:50 PM (44ww/)

172 The Stasi kept insanely detailed records too.
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East German dictator Erich Honecker is talking to Erich Mielke, head of the Stasi.

Honecker: I have a hobby. I collect the jokes that people tell about me.
Mielke: I have a hobby too. I collect the people who tell the jokes.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 17, 2022 03:51 PM (yikp0)

173 Posbiec is a doomer, and is rooting for Oz to lose. Even though he supports Trump, he links doomer stories from Ny Times frequently. I gave up on him
Posted by: Jonah at August 17, 2022 03:41 PM (AOZtW)
******
Yeah he's almost gleeful with any bad news about Oz. It's getting old and annoying. He'd rather have radical Fetterman for 6 yrs than Oz because that makes so much sense. Even though Oz would probably help Trump pass a lot of his agenda. Fetterman keeps yelling he's going to end the filibuster.

Plus the Supreme Court is always in play because death happens when you least expect it.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 17, 2022 03:51 PM (NpAcC)

174 It's my lamp, my Genie, and my futility. I'll wish 'em as I want.

While we are wishing, when the GOP takes over the House and Senate, one of the first things they do is to crowd source a real investigation in all of the documents pulled from Trump's residence.

Since 45 declassified it all, then it all should be publicly available. Let thousands of eyes go over the documents and then let the hangings commence.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 17, 2022 03:51 PM (3hSHB)

175 115
I'll turn it around, why would the DOJ/FBI be stupid enough to pull off this raid when a frigging 3 year old could have told it would have blown up in their faces? This has made Trump more popular not less and damaged the feds.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 17, 2022 03:42 PM (ZLI7S)

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Everything the Biden admin does tells me they simple don't care about optics or blowback. "Impunity" is their byword.

Posted by: JM in Florida at August 17, 2022 03:51 PM (U7Kiw)

176 164
More planned chaos:

They are "remade" a new fake A League Of Their Own tv series.


Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 17, 2022 03:50 PM (jmDe3)

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I watched the movie last weekend randomly. It's okay. Fake as hell in every way, but okay.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 17, 2022 03:51 PM (LvTSG)

177 I'm starting to think that the phrase "our democracy" when used in a sanctimonious rather than sarcastic way is one that should be interpreted to mean *types* *deletes* this individual immediately.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 03:51 PM (llON8)

178 Now my oldest is hiding around the corner, but his toes are sticking out. They're cracking me up. I sure hope that they don't grow up to be spies.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 03:51 PM (yHsuS)

179 If Trump actually had dirt on the deep state, no matter the subject, why wouldn't he make copies of it all?

Posted by: Naked, sitting in a sensory deprivation room, smoking crack. at August 17, 2022 03:51 PM (QY+6a)

180 I also posted the Gates-Manchin article on Manchin's social media

Posted by: CN at August 17, 2022 03:51 PM (Zzbjj)

181
Not A Goblin on tik tok shares her thoughts on President Trump:

https://youtu.be/a64xXVKmj38?t=111

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 17, 2022 03:51 PM (jmDe3)

182 Every GOP candidate should be asked if they would support a law that requires FBI personnel to record all interviews, and explicitly bars the use of 302s in court.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 17, 2022 03:51 PM (w6KZ+)

183 >>>Yeah he's almost gleeful with any bad news about Oz. It's getting old and annoying

i think it's more of the "I told you so" factor.

Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 17, 2022 03:51 PM (B3oWe)

184 I'm starting to think that the phrase "our democracy" when used in a sanctimonious rather than sarcastic way is one that should be interpreted to mean *types* *deletes* this individual immediately.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 03:51 PM (llON

I'm thankful that they self-identify in this way.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 03:52 PM (yHsuS)

185 I'll repeat my theory: the WH ordered the raid hoping to embarrass the gop and find dirt to harm Trump. Garland didn't know about it because the admin told their supporters in the FBI directly, but when it became clear that the backlash was widespread he was told to take responsibility for it.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 17, 2022 03:49 PM (w6KZ+)
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It would not surprise me in the slightest if it turns out that Wray and his club are largely responsible for this and that Garland and the Politburo didn't know. It took Garland a long time to make a statement, and then that statement was weak and unconvincing. I suspect that the couple of *days* of delay amounted to repeated telephone calls with Wray and the Politburo where Wray said, essentially, "Yeah, it was me. No, I will not go on TV and take the blame for it. If you go on TV and blame this on me, I'll nail your ass to the wall. I have plenty of evidence that you did it, and I know where a shit ton of your skeletons are. Capiche?"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 17, 2022 03:52 PM (WWh8n)

186 No-one likes Barnes' theories more than Barnes.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 03:52 PM (e+yf1)

187 88
(0ujpI)

Stormfront's thataway, cockbite.
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Ironically enough, comment #88.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 17, 2022 03:52 PM (yikp0)

188 The mole told them to rummage through Melania's silks.

"Sources say" there's a mole. I say it's a lie.

There doesn't have to be a mole for any part of this to have happened, unless Trump is "guilty" for something.

Sources say it. That's good enough for me to know it's bs until proven otherwise.

Posted by: ... at August 17, 2022 03:52 PM (feqn2)

189 My theory on the "nuclear secrets"

It is the result of the game of telephone. Some back office bureaucrat was talking to his media friend about what those documents were, and in stressing how important they were said "These are like the nuclear codes that will blow up the [cia, fbi, russian hoax,...]"
And the media moron ran with it.

My theory on the raid remains that this is standard FBI strategy of having DJT deny something legal to a fed, and the raid was an attempt to get back the documents while charging him with lying to a fed. That is always their go-to prosecution.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 17, 2022 03:52 PM (+Ff94)

190 174 While we are wishing, when the GOP takes over the House and Senate, one of the first things they do is to crowd source a real investigation in all of the documents pulled from Trump's residence.

Since 45 declassified it all, then it all should be publicly available. Let thousands of eyes go over the documents and then let the hangings commence.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 17, 2022 03:51 PM (3hSHB)

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No more pointless investigations, especially with an antagonistic DOJ.

Cut their funding to the bone. Deliver independent budget and appropriations bills by department to Biden to sign or veto. Let him veto all of them individually and send the government into a complete shutdown.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 17, 2022 03:52 PM (LvTSG)

191 Everything the Biden admin does tells me they simple don't care about optics or blowback. "Impunity" is their byword.

Posted by: JM in Florida at August 17, 2022 03:51 PM (U7Kiw)
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It's not impunity, it's desperation. They are constantly playing defensive and trying to control the news cycle.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 17, 2022 03:52 PM (w6KZ+)

192 >>Now my oldest is hiding around the corner, but his toes are sticking out.


Around a corner you say?

That's genius.

Posted by: James Comey at August 17, 2022 03:53 PM (IDNOW)

193 If there actually was an FBI mole at MAL, the empty safe leads me to wonder if Trump knew it and set him up.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 17, 2022 03:53 PM (sWM8x)

194 Was the KGB dissolved? I don't believe it was.

It was divided into two agencies - the FSB, which handles domestic spying and spying in countries that were formerly part of the Soviet Union; and the SVR, which handles spying in non-former-Soviet countries.

Putin ran the FSB for a while.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 17, 2022 03:53 PM (I2/tG)

195 166 Pence is a tool.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 17, 2022 03:50 PM (cZ8IN)

I have a tool like him. I keep it in me tighty whiteys.

Posted by: FBI - Top Men at August 17, 2022 03:53 PM (QSjkU)

196 I'll turn it around, why would the DOJ/FBI be stupid enough to pull off this raid when a frigging 3 year old could have told it would have blown up in their faces? This has made Trump more popular not less and damaged the feds.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 17, 2022 03:42 PM (ZLI7S)


My fear is the feds no longer care. They are convinced that they now have enough power to crush with impunity any of us peons that might question them. Not like anybody in DC is lifting a finger to stop or even slow them down one bit.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at August 17, 2022 03:53 PM (NxOLn)

197
I watched the movie last weekend randomly. It's okay. Fake as hell in every way, but okay.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison


You and the Critical Drinker like everything.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 17, 2022 03:53 PM (jmDe3)

198 John Towers, "so did you put this file in a Do Not Read file?"

Yeah our IC is still that 'smhart.'

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 17, 2022 03:53 PM (cZ8IN)

199 167. Zalensky is a grifter. Said that in Feb., and was called a Putin lover.

He wants to pass gay marriage during a war, to put gay pressure on the Sodomy West, to send more money that goes to bank account in Zurich

Posted by: Jonah at August 17, 2022 03:53 PM (AOZtW)

200 149 Pence: "Calls to defund the FBI are just as wrong as calls to defund the police."Posted by: redridinghood

Ah the old the "Conservative Base are the Real Hypocrites" gambit, recently perfected by Traitorous She-Hag Kristi Noem. Great for rallying people to your electoral side. Posted by: ...
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Pence is a sad empty piece of fecal material masquerading as a human being and finds out that there is no honor among traitors. Like Cheney, he is yesterday's news and his fifteen minutes of media adoration is spent. The Dems don't give a shit about him and the GOP rank and file just want him to go away preferably to another country without extradition. I hear Sri Lanka is nice for a man of his tastes.

Posted by: whig at August 17, 2022 03:53 PM (CXr4y)

201 Everything the Biden admin does tells me they simple don't care about optics or blowback. "Impunity" is their byword.

Being that the junta is trying to make a three front war: China, Russia, We The People; when it becomes blatantly obvious that Doe Min Yan won't be enough to throw the "elections", then Biden, as his last act as a surrogate for a legion of demons will spark the wars to end all wars.

File this under "If I can't have her, no one can."

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 17, 2022 03:53 PM (3hSHB)

202 The FBI only looked in the buildings of Mar-A-Lago.
Obviously, they missed the safe hidden behind the sand trap on the 3rd hole.

Posted by: SMOD at August 17, 2022 03:53 PM (RHGPo)

203 I'm going to go with my original reason the FBI raided Melania's underwear drawer...
______________

It was the world's biggest panty raid. The only violence was when someone tried to cut in line to sniff Melania's panty hamper.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 17, 2022 03:53 PM (cE4C5)

204 197 You and the Critical Drinker like everything.
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 17, 2022 03:53 PM (jmDe3)

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Someone didn't read my last Saturday evening thread.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 17, 2022 03:54 PM (LvTSG)

205 179. Just immediately release all of the shit as you find it. Justice delayed is Justice denied, or maybe it interferes with Ivanka s social life. Kushners need to go. No more nepotism

Posted by: CN at August 17, 2022 03:54 PM (Zzbjj)

206 Trump wasn't hiding anything. He had declassified them and allowed the DOJ to inspect them.

Obama has over 30 million documents but the government has no problem with that.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 17, 2022 03:54 PM (ZLI7S)

207 Let's go with the obvious. Garland was under pressure from the Left and only too glad to comply to do something, do anything to Trump. Everyone knows in D.C. at this point the GOP is controlled opposition and will do nothing substantive in response to any outrage. The FBI got some really sleazy magistrate to sign a broad, open-ended search warrant, and Trump pre-empted them is announcing it.

Typical garbage tier totalitarianism in the Banana Empire.

Any charges or lack thereof will be based solely on polling.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 17, 2022 03:54 PM (nMx88)

208 >>> 184
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I'm thankful that they self-identify in this way.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 03:52 PM (yHsuS)

Agreed.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 03:54 PM (llON8)

209 They are "remade" a new fake A League Of Their Own tv series.

I mean, it wasn't really all that great a movie. It had some good bits but you remember all of them (No crying in baseball, this would be more then wouldn't it, etc). Its hard to cash in on nostalgia of stuff nobody really even remembers that well.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 03:54 PM (Ivdso)

210 They should have turned A League of Their Own into a WNBA story. That would have raked in the viewers by the couple.

Posted by: ... at August 17, 2022 03:54 PM (feqn2)

211 If Trump has the power to de-classify, then he has the power to make certified copies.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 17, 2022 03:54 PM (Qhnrt)

212 This has made Trump more popular not less and damaged the feds.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 17, 2022 03:42 PM (ZLI7S)

Um, they don't care what we think. They only care what people in blue areas think.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 17, 2022 03:54 PM (Y5qcH)

213 I went to a storage locker auction but there was a box in there labeled TOP SECRET so I didn't buy it.

Posted by: wth at August 17, 2022 03:54 PM (v0R5T)

214 202. Great, now you've done it, traitor

Posted by: CN at August 17, 2022 03:55 PM (Zzbjj)

215 Trump's problem is Trump , not his family.

Posted by: runner at August 17, 2022 03:55 PM (eisI8)

216 132. Both Fox and Newsmax had extensive stories including numerous interviews with vets and former administration officials. Officially we left 800 American citizens and green card holders there and $7B in equipment. Some of that went to Iran via Afghani soldiers deserting to escape the Taliban.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 17, 2022 03:55 PM (lg9Ws)

217 This goes without saying, but the Secret Service can be placed into the Gestapo file after they re-secured the lock on Trump's safe. The people who who are supposedly guarding Trump were working with the Gestapo and a few people think they planted evidence into the safe while the Secret Service assisted.

May be crap, but more than a few lawyers and former agents think this is what happened.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 17, 2022 03:55 PM (XSRBF)

218
Ironically enough, comment #88.
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0)


Heh. I didn't notice that.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 17, 2022 03:55 PM (n+4am)

219 102 Is there really a Chewbacca running in Alaska?
Posted by: garrett at August 17, 2022 03:42 PM (IDNOW)

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Yes. Running against the ugliest bitch representative of the evil empire.

Posted by: jc at August 17, 2022 03:55 PM (N1WXz)

220 186 No-one likes Barnes' theories more than Barnes.
Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 03:52 PM (e+yf1)

Isn't that true of us all?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 17, 2022 03:55 PM (HJDAV)

221 My theory is they looked at the "Insurrection" hearing numbers and saw the writing on the wall for Lizzy Cheney and understood the 1/6 hearings were falling apart. They needed something to keep Trump from running again.

I think Hillary agitating for getting Trump over classified docs was on their radar. They knew it was bullshit, but it was the next best chaff pile they could throw into the air, hoping to cause enough confusion and angst and momentum against Trump to keep him off the ballot or at least harm his reelection chances.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 17, 2022 03:55 PM (eyxn4)

222 TW, the Ukraine just passed a new law that says that if you provide Russian humanitarian aid to anyone in Russian-occupied Ukraine, or accept Russian humanitarian aid from anyone in Russian-occupied Ukraine, you are subject to a prison term of up to fifteen years.

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/
status/1559564391447773186

Ukraine - the world's most perfect democracy!
Posted by: The ARC of History!


BTW if you think that the Russian government is handing out 'humanitarian aid' you are a useful idiot!

Perfect!

Posted by: Blue Hen at August 17, 2022 03:55 PM (cY9wR)

223 CDC Director Rochelle Walensky is reorganizing the agency, saying it didn’t react quickly enough during the Covid pandemic, according an internal review of the agency’s operations released on Wednesday.

.. hey hon, your monkeypox reaction wasn't much better

Posted by: SMOD at August 17, 2022 03:56 PM (RHGPo)

224 This busty blonde golf chick thinks that Mar-a-Lago is for golfing, not for banana republic tyranny shit:
https://is.gd/rFzi0r

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 17, 2022 03:56 PM (WWh8n)

225 I'm still pretty sure this is related to Trump's lawsuit against Hillary.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 03:56 PM (Ivdso)

226 188 The mole told them to rummage through Melania's silks.

"Sources say" there's a mole. I say it's a lie.

There doesn't have to be a mole for any part of this to have happened, unless Trump is "guilty" for something.

Sources say it. That's good enough for me to know it's bs until proven otherwise.

Posted by: ...
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In NY during his younger days, DJT often leaked stuff about himself to the media using pseudonyms to disguise the source. I think it amused him and he just might be doing the same thing here.

Posted by: whig at August 17, 2022 03:56 PM (CXr4y)

227 >>>Isn't that true of us all?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 17, 2022 03:55 PM (HJDAV)

ace prefers Chuy's theories.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at August 17, 2022 03:56 PM (QYPq3)

228 Bye bye @Liz_Cheney . On the bright side at least you won’t have to pretend to be from Wyoming anymore

Posted by: SMOD at August 17, 2022 03:56 PM (RHGPo)

229 >>Um, they don't care what we think. They only care what people in blue areas think.

They sure seem to give a shit what they think in Wyoming.

This is a national issue. They have made Trump more popular nationally. They care one hell of a lot about that, they are obsessed with it.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 17, 2022 03:57 PM (ZLI7S)

230 I was a huge Pence supporter for his work in 2016. He provided a stable part of the ticket that got many votes in the Midwest. He was great on election night introducing Trump also. Heroic pro lofer too

Saddens me that he went to the Dark side, and succumbed to the Deep State

Posted by: Jonah at August 17, 2022 03:57 PM (AOZtW)

231 If there actually was an FBI mole at MAL, the empty safe leads me to wonder if Trump knew it and set him up.

Was the FBI aware of the existence and the location of the MAL safe room?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 17, 2022 03:57 PM (3hSHB)

232 165 Per the last thread - England was better to its peasants than the French for a number of reasons, but the Plague was a big one. As bad as it was on the Continent, it was utterly devastating in Britain. It hollowed out the peasants. After it passed, the value of a working man's sweat increased by a huge amount - never again would the English farmer be a disposable commodity.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
______________________

The development of property rights was another. Liberty and property rights are, generally speaking, directly proportional.
Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 17, 2022 03:50 PM (es0Dj)

Lack of property rights was not generally much of an issue with Europe. Most of the new kingdoms were initially pretty free and populated largely by yeomen (the originating tribes being mostly of approximately equal status part-time warriors part-time farmers). There were particular events that lead to different parts of Europe being more or less free at different times. The HRE and Poland both had relative high points for liberty. Poland is peculiar because of the way their nobility and voting worked. The HRE was horribly complicated and fractured.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 17, 2022 03:57 PM (b2nrj)

233 Some of that went to Iran via Afghani soldiers deserting to escape the Taliban.
Posted by: Jen the original
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And some went to China.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 17, 2022 03:57 PM (OCK3i)

234 PDT is a smart guy. If he released incriminating info on DOJ/FBI/Killary before the raid the cries of lies and disinformation would rule the day. Now everyone knows how bogus this raid was so I see a lot more acceptance of the legitimacy of anything PDT releases.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2022 03:57 PM (geRMl)

235 The Federalist:

The Best Historical Analog For Liz Cheney Isn’t Lincoln. It’s Colin Kaepernick

Posted by: SMOD at August 17, 2022 03:57 PM (RHGPo)

236 https://tinyurl.com/bdf7xshj
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

That's your mom?
She's smart!
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 17, 2022 03:45 PM (DzcpJ)
*******
Cool. I see there are spoiler alerts. I wish I could read it but, I missed last season and have to catch
up.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 17, 2022 03:57 PM (NpAcC)

237 Even at her age, I'd volunteer to check Melania for Moles.

Posted by: garrett at August 17, 2022 03:57 PM (IDNOW)

238 I'm starting to think that the phrase "our democracy" when used in a sanctimonious rather than sarcastic way is one that should be interpreted to mean *types* *deletes* this individual immediately.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 03:51 PM (llON

I'm thankful that they self-identify in this way.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 03:52 PM (yHsuS)

its like a horror movie monster trying to live inside the eaten out husk of a real person...they say the right things but your skin crawls because you sense the 'other' in them.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 17, 2022 03:57 PM (eoQWY)

239 WTH? I'm last one on our shift not out with fauci19

Posted by: A dude in MI at August 17, 2022 03:58 PM (/6GbT)

240 After it passed, the value of a working man's sweat increased by a huge amount - never again would the English farmer be a disposable commodity.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

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Never again? not so fast there bub.

Posted by: EU's Polish immigrants at August 17, 2022 03:58 PM (+Ff94)

241 >>...in my house in a box labeled TOP SECRET
.......

good thing it was labeled or the FBI would have never found it.

Posted by: wth at August 17, 2022 03:58 PM (v0R5T)

242 Friend of mine had a bear break into his rural cabin and shit all over the floors.
Posted by: SFGoth at August 17, 2022 03:31 PM (KAi1n)

You don't need bears. Frisco has homeless bums that will do that for you.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 17, 2022 03:58 PM (X1fbn)

243
Walensky is not in control of the CDC. She's just there to be a puppet on tv and lend her name to fake news headlines.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 17, 2022 03:58 PM (jmDe3)

244 Abolish The DOJ and The FBI.

No one would miss them.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 17, 2022 03:58 PM (X/UGK)

245 > I'll turn it around, why would the DOJ/FBI be stupid enough to pull off this raid when a frigging 3 year old could have told it would have blown up in their faces? This has made Trump more popular not less and damaged the feds.

Tucker said he heard from multiple sources that Garland was shocked by the blowback. I think it's possible the guy is so deep up in the Democrat anus that is D.C. that it's possible he thought there would be some uproar, but it would quickly die down.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 17, 2022 03:58 PM (eyxn4)

246 By the way, Trump's lawyer, don't remember her name, said the way the raid came off, the timing, etc., made it seem like the FBI hoped they could keep it low key and off the radar.

To say the lawyer was flabbergasted the FBI would think like that is an understatement.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 17, 2022 03:58 PM (5pTK/)

247 >>Was the FBI aware of the existence and the location of the MAL safe room?


Yes. The FBI was there at the behest of the Archivist who had already been to the Storage Room / Facility in June (I believe).

Posted by: garrett at August 17, 2022 03:58 PM (IDNOW)

248 Pence is a sad empty piece of fecal material masquerading as a human being and finds out that there is no honor among traitors. Like Cheney, he is yesterday's news and his fifteen minutes of media adoration is spent. The Dems don't give a shit about him and the GOP rank and file just want him to go away preferably to another country without extradition. I hear Sri Lanka is nice for a man of his tastes.
Posted by: whig at August 17, 2022 03:53 PM (CXr4y)

In one of history's more ironic twists, womanizing Trump did infinitely more in four years to secure religious liberties and stood firm than Pence did in a lifetime of craven Conservative Christian cuckery. Religious types know this, too.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 17, 2022 03:58 PM (nMx88)

249 Did the DOJ and FBI Lie To Get Another Warrant

Did I open another beer, assuming beer is present in my beer fridge ?

The answer to both questions is always a resounding yes.

Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 03:59 PM (UdwG8)

250 >>> Most of the new kingdoms were initially pretty free and populated largely by *yeomen* (the originating tribes being mostly of approximately equal status *part-time warriors* part-time farmers).

after yesterday's Foreskin Wars and the refusal to drop the subject, i don't like where this is heading...

Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 17, 2022 03:59 PM (B3oWe)

251 245 Tucker said he heard from multiple sources that Garland was shocked by the blowback. I think it's possible the guy is so deep up in the Democrat anus that is D.C. that it's possible he thought there would be some uproar, but it would quickly die down.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 17, 2022 03:58 PM (eyxn4)

=========

He doesn't even know anyone who voted for Nixon.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 17, 2022 03:59 PM (LvTSG)

252 Also if this was an op to really retrieve the Moscow Macguffin, they would have raided multiple properties on the same day so as not to give Trump warning and to make sure they "got it".

This is just totalitarians wiping their dick on your drapes.

Posted by: ... at August 17, 2022 03:59 PM (feqn2)

253 Y'know how in the 90s Russian businessmen were always getting kidnapped, tortured, and/or killed? That's due to things like the KGB going private.
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Just don't kill the guy's dog, numbnuts!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 17, 2022 03:59 PM (yikp0)

254 This busty blonde golf chick thinks that Mar-a-Lago is for golfing, not for banana republic tyranny shit:
https://is.gd/rFzi0r
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 17, 2022 03:56 PM (WWh8n)
.......

Paige?

Posted by: wth at August 17, 2022 03:59 PM (v0R5T)

255 England benefited from its nobility (barons earls, etc) battling to limit the King's power, and the king battling them to increase his power. As a result they were not as united in oppressing and controlling the people, and the people could leverage one against the other for benefits.

Like how the Magna Carta got signed by basically forcing King John to sign it by getting the nobility to back it and ram it down his throat.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 03:59 PM (Ivdso)

256 >>Friend of mine had a bear break into his rural cabin and shit all over the floors.


Not all tautologies are equal.

Posted by: garrett at August 17, 2022 03:59 PM (IDNOW)

257 Italy also had quite a few republics and city-states, though on balance I don't think they reached relative highs comparable to England, the HRE, and Poland. Spain never really got a chance to develop its original traditions of tribal freedoms as they were beset by Islam fairly early on, but Aragon of their crowns more resembled Italy in some respects with their close trade ties.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 17, 2022 03:59 PM (b2nrj)

258 CDC Director Rochelle Walensky is reorganizing the agency, saying it didn’t react quickly enough during the Covid pandemic, according an internal review of the agency’s operations released on Wednesday.

.. hey hon, your monkeypox reaction wasn't much better
Posted by: SMOD at August 17, 2022 03:56 PM (RHGPo)

Let me know when you fire 90 percent of your brain dead staff and I might think you are serious.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 17, 2022 03:59 PM (eoQWY)

259 Hey Paul. Why don't you go fuck yourself?
Posted by: Xipe Totec

He can't...
He's worried about his dad, it looks like those blisters dad had before their last 'session' might be monkeypox.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 17, 2022 03:59 PM (Ao8WA)

260 >>>Yes. The FBI was there at the behest of the Archivist who had already been to the Storage Room / Facility in June (I believe).

Posted by: garrett


Probably found out from a Secret Service mole.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 17, 2022 03:59 PM (XSRBF)

261 211 If Trump has the power to de-classify, then he has the power to make certified copies.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons


Yeah, but only while he is president. If he declassifies while he is president, removes at the end of his presidency, then copies after his presidency is over, no bueno.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 04:00 PM (e+yf1)

262 242 Friend of mine had a bear break into his rural cabin and shit all over the floors.

BooBoo got into the prune juice again.

Posted by: Yogi at August 17, 2022 04:00 PM (KnK6d)

263 I do think the Supreme Court leaker was a pro life staffer though. He or she was worried about Kav. Put the heat on him to not look like a flip flopper and a traitor. Roberts works in the shadows, not his people

Posted by: Jonah at August 17, 2022 04:00 PM (AOZtW)

264 Friend of mine had a bear break into his rural cabin and shit all over the floors.
Posted by: SFGoth at August 17, 2022 03:31 PM (KAi1n)

You don't need bears. Frisco has homeless bums that will do that for you.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 17, 2022 03:58 PM (X1fbn)
.......

The bears smell better.

Posted by: wth at August 17, 2022 04:00 PM (v0R5T)

265 254 This busty blonde golf chick thinks that Mar-a-Lago is for golfing, not for banana republic tyranny shit:
https://is.gd/rFzi0r
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 17, 2022 03:56 PM (WWh8n)
.......

I'd like to watch her putt.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 17, 2022 04:00 PM (Qhnrt)

266 its like a horror movie monster trying to live inside the eaten out husk of a real person...they say the right things but your skin crawls because you sense the 'other' in them.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 17, 2022 03:57 PM (eoQWY)

I am genuinely thankful that I don't have to waste any time or energy on them, now, or in more desperate times.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 04:00 PM (yHsuS)

267 Exactly. I'm sick of " we'll release it when the time is right".
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In the UK saying you'll do something "when the time is right" is understood to mean $%^&* never.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 17, 2022 04:00 PM (cE4C5)

268 People for decades have asked the same question about the Nazis. Why would they keep a these records, take photos and film slaughtering civilians? Proof to your superiors you carried out their orders?
Posted by: Jen the original at August 17, 2022 03:34 PM (lg9Ws)

It would have been nice, though, for Aero Pinochet to have made films of Commies getting their flying lessons.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 17, 2022 04:00 PM (X1fbn)

269 After it passed, the value of a working man's sweat increased by a huge amount - never again would the English farmer be a disposable commodity.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

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Never again? not so fast there bub.
Posted by: EU's Polish immigrants

Please.

Posted by: The Enclosure Acts at August 17, 2022 04:00 PM (cY9wR)

270 >>Tucker said he heard from multiple sources that Garland was shocked by the blowback. I think it's possible the guy is so deep up in the Democrat anus that is D.C. that it's possible he thought there would be some uproar, but it would quickly die down

Maybe but I don't think this was really Garland's call anyway. I don't even think he's running the DOJ. I think Lisa Monaco is.

And I definitely don't think they raided Trump without getting the blessing of the White House team that is actually running the country no matter how much they deny it.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 17, 2022 04:01 PM (ZLI7S)

271 While I think there's a good chance that theory is overall right, the right absolutely must not follow the left in The Walls Are Closing In/The Train Is Running Out of Track claims.

Well, whether true or not, it sure sets the stage for "leaks" and some kick-ass breaking stories, not to mention quasi fictional books.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 17, 2022 04:01 PM (anj39)

272 It was divided into two agencies - the FSB, which handles domestic spying and spying in countries that were formerly part of the Soviet Union; and the SVR, which handles spying in non-former-Soviet countries.

Also important is military intelligence, the GU (formerly GRU), which operates world-wide.

They're the people who do the Novichok poisonings.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 17, 2022 04:01 PM (I2/tG)

273 250 >>> Most of the new kingdoms were initially pretty free and populated largely by *yeomen* (the originating tribes being mostly of approximately equal status *part-time warriors* part-time farmers).

after yesterday's Foreskin Wars and the refusal to drop the subject, i don't like where this is heading...
Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 17, 2022 03:59 PM (B3oWe)

Is there an etymology dick joke I'm missing?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 17, 2022 04:01 PM (b2nrj)

274 >>> 265 254 This busty blonde golf chick thinks that Mar-a-Lago is for golfing, not for banana republic tyranny shit:
https://is.gd/rFzi0r
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 17, 2022 03:56 PM (WWh8n)
.......

I'd like to watch her putt.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 17, 2022 04:00 PM (Qhnrt)

That's an awfully big putter she's holding.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 04:01 PM (llON8)

275 Kushners need to go.

Trump was fairly smart to send them off to do the Abraham Accords, the existence of which still greatly annoys Kalorama.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 17, 2022 04:01 PM (ZGrMX)

276 Was the FBI aware of the existence and the location of the MAL safe room?
Posted by: Reuben Hick

Surely they had plans and had done a security assessment when he used it during his term in office.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 17, 2022 04:01 PM (+Ff94)

277 If he declassifies while he is president, removes at the end of his presidency, then copies after his presidency is over, no bueno.

It depends on the document. Declassification is just one stage; even declassified stuff might be "read only" or only one copy allowed, but not all of it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 04:01 PM (Ivdso)

278 My fear is the feds no longer care. They are convinced that they now have enough power to crush with impunity any of us peons that might question them. Not like anybody in DC is lifting a finger to stop or even slow them down one bit.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont
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In countries like that, Trump would already be under house arrest if not in prison awaiting trial.

It is best to think of DC as issue networks of agencies, media, and political support/cover that are not wholly on the same page. Publicly, the media sets out the party line but behind the scenes these networks and their partisans clash over goals, resources, and strategy.

Posted by: whig at August 17, 2022 04:02 PM (CXr4y)

279 >>>Is there an etymology dick joke I'm missing?


do i have to wrap it up in a bow for you?

Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 17, 2022 04:02 PM (B3oWe)

280 Was the FBI aware of the existence and the location of the MAL safe room?
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If you mean the room where documents were stored, yes. FBI certainly knew about that. I don't know where the safe was located in relation to the storage room. I assumed it was located elsewhere, but I don't know that.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 17, 2022 04:02 PM (sWM8x)

281 Did the DOJ and FBI Lie To Get Another Warrant, This One to Recover Documents Exposing Their Crimes In Getting the Previous Fraudulent Russiagate Warrants

At this point does it make a damn bit of difference.

The gauntlet is cast.

Posted by: Golfman at August 17, 2022 04:02 PM (rhXTS)

282 The Daily Daddario's sideboob is going to drown itself because of the revelation of federal level lies:

https://tinyurl.com/n99td4fc

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 17, 2022 04:02 PM (LvTSG)

283 Way late
I liked Neo's theory when read it, certainly a good possibility it went down that way

Posted by: Skip at August 17, 2022 04:02 PM (k8B25)

284 222 Sure they are, to Russian speakers in Donbas. You seem to have un certain glow about you

Posted by: CN at August 17, 2022 04:02 PM (Zzbjj)

285 I'm warming up to the "stray voltage" theory. This own-goal really reminds me of the IRS deciding for no particular reason to admit to targeting conservatives. And I'm sure Brandon is enjoying the spotlight being moved over to the FIB. If they're lucky, somebody might even do something stupid.

Posted by: Bandana Dee at August 17, 2022 04:02 PM (3nxqg)

286 CDC Director Rochelle Walensky is reorganizing the agency, saying it didn’t react quickly enough during the Covid pandemic, according an internal review of the agency’s operations released on Wednesday.

Keep in mind, this is the same bitch that, at one point, over-ruled her own advisory board regarding a recommendation on vaxes. The board voted against a recommendation to vax. The over-ruled.

This is a bitch covering same bitches ass. Nothing more.

Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 04:02 PM (UdwG8)

287 CDC Director Rochelle Walensky is reorganizing the agency, saying it didn’t react quickly enough during the Covid pandemic, according an internal review of the agency’s operations released on Wednesday.
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Maybe wasting time on gun violence and systemic racism wasn't a good use of resources?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 17, 2022 04:02 PM (cE4C5)

288 Great movie lore TJM. That was famously said by Film critic Pauline Kael in 1972?. Echoed by Warren Beaty etc..

Posted by: Jonah at August 17, 2022 04:03 PM (AOZtW)

289 "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"

That's what I think of, when the usual suspects start talking about "critical to our democracy" and other seemingly benign platitudes.

Doesn't the National Archives have its own battalion strength Swat team and a couple Mrap vehicles? Why didn't they make the raid?

Posted by: Common Tater at August 17, 2022 04:03 PM (qijOM)

290 Is their daily buggering punishment or reward for trolls?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 17, 2022 04:03 PM (VdGjU)

291 275. They were entirely too visible and vocal

Posted by: CN at August 17, 2022 04:03 PM (Zzbjj)

292 >>>I added in the post, anything that is smoking gun would have already been released by trump. he wouldn't just hold on to it for shits and giggles.

there is stuff that could implicate these people but only if, say, Julie Kelly and Margot Cleveland go through it and make deductions and prove implications. I can't be smoking gun on its face, or Trump would have already have put it on Truth Social.

Posted by: Chuy Libre


Yeah, I saw that AFTER my comment. 🙄

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 17, 2022 04:03 PM (tQL7r)

293 https://tinyurl.com/bdf7xshj
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

That's your mom?
She's smart!
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 17, 2022 03:45 PM (DzcpJ)

great article and I followed the link to her books- Im going to buy a few about the saints for my friend's kid.

Posted by: LASue at August 17, 2022 04:03 PM (Ed8Zd)

294 172 The Stasi kept insanely detailed records too.
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East German dictator Erich Honecker is talking to Erich Mielke, head of the Stasi.

Honecker: I have a hobby. I collect the jokes that people tell about me.
Mielke: I have a hobby too. I collect the people who tell the jokes.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 17, 2022 03:51 PM (yikp0)
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That was funny even though I shouldn't laugh.

Posted by: Ciampino - I love word humor at August 17, 2022 04:03 PM (qfLjt)

295 293 great article and I followed the link to her books- Im going to buy a few about the saints for my friend's kid.
Posted by: LASue at August 17, 2022 04:03 PM (Ed8Zd)

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She'll be glad to hear that.

I think I have some laying around the house she's given Junior.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 17, 2022 04:04 PM (LvTSG)

296 286. She's another totalitarian who needs to resign.

Posted by: CN at August 17, 2022 04:04 PM (Zzbjj)

297 Tucker said he heard from multiple sources that Garland was shocked by the blowback. I think it's possible the guy is so deep up in the Democrat anus that is D.C. that it's possible he thought there would be some uproar, but it would quickly die down.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 17, 2022 03:58 PM (eyxn4)

I get the sense that, like veep throat and so many others who fail upward in the DNC, he really is not that bright. His utility is in faithfully following orders. That is also why I think it is BS that Brandon's controllers knew nothing about the raid.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 04:04 PM (yHsuS)

298 My fear is the feds no longer care. They are convinced that they now have enough power to crush with impunity any of us peons that might question them.

I don't think we're quite there yet, but are very, very close. For now at least they still seem somewhat concerned about public perception.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 04:04 PM (Ivdso)

299 Yes. The FBI was there at the behest of the Archivist who had already been to the Storage Room / Facility in June (I believe).
Posted by: garrett at August 17, 2022 03:58 PM (IDNOW)


I wasn't clear. The Panic Room - that hidden away fortified room on the premises that was really popular to install back in the day. Part of its security is its obscurity.

I didn't mean the room the vault was located.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 17, 2022 04:04 PM (3hSHB)

300 222 Sure they are, to Russian speakers in Donbas. You seem to have un certain glow about you
Posted by: CN

Glows are like food. Not everyone gets it.

Posted by: zombie Josef Stalin at August 17, 2022 04:04 PM (cY9wR)

301 Garland is shocked at the blowback?

Is he really so clueless as to not know just how often the FBI has screwed up over the last couple of decades?

The ridiculous Whitmer kidnapping "plot."

The Bundy Ranch standoff, where the FBI got slapped down in court, and all charges dismissed against the Bundy's, when it turned out the FBI was lying about snipers on the hills surrounding the Bundy Ranch?

Obviously, there's more, so, yeah, any trust the FBI had was squandered long ago.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 17, 2022 04:05 PM (5pTK/)

302 >>I liked Neo's theory


The problem with Neo's theory is you NEED a spoon to eat an ice cream sundae.

Posted by: garrett at August 17, 2022 04:05 PM (IDNOW)

303 I can't believe for even a second that anyone with an IQ above 2 could imagine in their wildest dreams that a gov raid of Trump's home would be a nothingburger of a story.

I've been asked to believe a lot of kooky shit this last 7 years but that lie takes the cake.

Posted by: ... at August 17, 2022 04:05 PM (feqn2)

304
Quick joke time?

What do Pantyhose and Brooklyn have in common?

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 17, 2022 04:05 PM (jmDe3)

305 "...there are a lot of reasons why the Army is suffering through the most serious personnel crisis since the mid-1970s."

https://tinyurl.com/5n7aska3

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 17, 2022 04:05 PM (flCnw)

306 Yeah, but only while he is president. If he declassifies while he is president, removes at the end of his presidency, then copies after his presidency is over, no bueno.
Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 04:00 PM (e+yf1)

I should have put that in past tense, but other than that the statement should be true.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 17, 2022 04:05 PM (Qhnrt)

307 Is Barnes a novelist? He always talks about things like it's the plot to some spy novel he is working on.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 17, 2022 04:05 PM (+Ff94)

308 CDC Director Rochelle Walensky is reorganizing the agency, saying it didn’t react quickly enough during the Covid pandemic, according an internal review of the agency’s operations released on Wednesday.
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Cleaning out those who gave her problems or whom are not all in.

Posted by: Change my mind at August 17, 2022 04:05 PM (8w7P+)

309 BTW if you think that the Russian government is handing out 'humanitarian aid' you are a useful idiot!

Perfect!


Then there was no need for Ukraine to pass a law criminalizing Russian humanitarian aid, was there?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 17, 2022 04:05 PM (I2/tG)

310 270. I doubt he was shocked at all

Posted by: CN at August 17, 2022 04:05 PM (Zzbjj)

311 >>>"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"


Yeah, my level of patriotism died a few years ago.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 17, 2022 04:05 PM (XSRBF)

312 "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"

That's what I think of, when the usual suspects start talking about "critical to our democracy" and other seemingly benign platitudes.


Its been like this all my life. Uncle Sam needs this or that. When your country calls, you answer. Its all the same shit.

Patriotism didn't blow my skirt up back when a Bush was in charge. Doesn't do any different now.

Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 04:05 PM (UdwG8)

313 In one of history's more ironic twists, womanizing Trump did infinitely more in four years to secure religious liberties and stood firm than Pence did in a lifetime of craven Conservative Christian cuckery. Religious types know this, too.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 17, 2022 03:58 PM (nMx8

Infinitely more pro-life, too.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 04:06 PM (yHsuS)

314 279 >>>Is there an etymology dick joke I'm missing?


do i have to wrap it up in a bow for you?
Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 17, 2022 04:02 PM (B3oWe)

Going to need an assist from rothlisberger otherwise.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 17, 2022 04:06 PM (b2nrj)

315
Yeah, but only while he is president. If he declassifies while he is president, removes at the end of his presidency, then copies after his presidency is over, no bueno.
Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 04:00 PM (e+yf1)

OK - not following. Why is making copies of non-classified material "no bueno"? It's unclassified.

Posted by: Iris at August 17, 2022 04:06 PM (foa6+)

316 from below:
Frightening propaganda from the pharmaceutical companies who pay Big Media's salaries.

Posted by: ... at August 17, 2022 03:29 PM (feqn2)


I had a boyfriend who repped for Big Pharma. His employers paid for junkets to fun places like Hawaii, etc. ostensibly to confer on all the great new products Rohm or whoever it was had to offer. He told me when he got home that his main job was to get "dates" for the MDs.

Posted by: kallisto at August 17, 2022 04:06 PM (dCxaZ)

317 Garland is shocked at the blowback?

=
There's a guy that has spent decades sniffing his own farts and being pleased.

Posted by: Change my mind at August 17, 2022 04:06 PM (8w7P+)

318 >>Is Barnes a novelist? He always talks about things like it's the plot to some spy novel he is working on.


He's a huge proponent of Populism.

And Populists love to create a narrative.

Posted by: garrett at August 17, 2022 04:07 PM (IDNOW)

319 Posted by: Ciampino - I love word humor at August 17, 2022 04:03 PM (qfLjt)

Mielke actually was one of the few East Germans that faced criminal charges after the Wende. He was convicted of two murders that he had kept records of in his safe, from the Weimar Republic in 1931.

Posted by: ted Torgerson at August 17, 2022 04:07 PM (vN+oL)

320 after yesterday's Foreskin Wars and the refusal to drop the subject, i don't like where this is heading...

Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 17, 2022 03:59 PM (B3oWe)

lol

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 04:07 PM (yHsuS)

321 How many times have they been warned about this very scenario? Eventually, the lies implodes any credibility. And, if I hear anything about messaging or pr, GTFOH! Pravda was less obvious.

Posted by: Watermelon Sugar at August 17, 2022 04:07 PM (QSPZM)

322 It is best to think of DC as issue networks of agencies, media, and political support/cover that are not wholly on the same page. Publicly, the media sets out the party line but behind the scenes these networks and their partisans clash over goals, resources, and strategy.
Posted by: whig at August 17, 2022 04:02 PM (CXr4y)
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Cabals. One-party states like dictatorships, monarchies, etc. are rarely monolithic. There are always various factions vying for supremacy within the Party, or simply engaging in influence-peddling and empire-building even if the faction doesn't think it will come out on top (or even doesn't want to ).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 17, 2022 04:07 PM (WWh8n)

323 >>after yesterday's Foreskin Wars and the refusal to drop the subject, i don't like where this is heading...


Nice job cutting that off, btw.

Posted by: garrett at August 17, 2022 04:07 PM (IDNOW)

324 He told me when he got home that his main job was to get "dates" for the MDs.

"Can we dance with your dates, haole?"
--Mele Kalikimaka

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 04:08 PM (Ivdso)

325 73 By the way, Trump can hide things in myriad properties. Why pick on Mar-a-Lago?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 17, 2022 03:39 PM (AzEXR)

He built a safe just for these Documents with the standards that was required to house them

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at August 17, 2022 04:08 PM (dTgOy)

326 Garland is shocked at the blowback?
_________________

Another reason why he should never have been considered for the Supreme Court.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 17, 2022 04:08 PM (lf83v)

327 > If he declassifies while he is president, removes at the end of his presidency, then copies after his presidency is over, no bueno.

I don't understand. If they're declassified when he's President, why can't he make copies when he's not President anymore? They're declassified docs.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 17, 2022 04:08 PM (eyxn4)

328 What do Pantyhose and Brooklyn have in common?
.......

They both get the runs?

Posted by: wth at August 17, 2022 04:08 PM (v0R5T)

329 Those Tucker videos -- yowzer! Thanks for posting them, Chuy. I don't watch any tv, unless I see a clip reposted online.

"Like maidens in bikinis." Bwahahaha!!

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 17, 2022 04:08 PM (tQL7r)

330 Nice job cutting that off, btw.

He really peeled back the coverup there

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 04:08 PM (Ivdso)

331 Then there was no need for Ukraine to pass a law criminalizing Russian humanitarian aid, was there?
Posted by: The ARC of History!

According to you, they have never published casualty figures, and that was a lie.

And it dodges the question: when has Russia/USSR EVER distributed 'humanitarian aid'?

I found links to Ukrainian casualty figures.

as for Russian 'aid'?


Mazeltov.

Posted by: zombie Josef Stalin at August 17, 2022 04:08 PM (cY9wR)

332 So Gutfield and Ingraham turned on Trump? Also the tall weasel on Fox and Friends?

Posted by: Jonah at August 17, 2022 04:08 PM (AOZtW)

333
I would bet my bottom dollar Russia is handing out "humanitarian aid" in the East of Ukraine. It's their circus, and their monkeys. Constituent service. If they're not, they're fools.

You might not be able to splash around the largesse of an American bureaucrat sponsoring a pedophile warlord in Central Asia, but you can at least hand out candy bars.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2022 04:08 PM (IXpV7)

334 My fear is the feds no longer care. They are convinced that they now have enough power to crush with impunity any of us peons that might question them.

Then why fear ? If the Feds have the juice, they'll use it and win. If they don't have the juice, they'll try it anyway, and fail. Either way, why wait.

I don't want 'em to wait. I only get older while they wait. If they feel froggy ? Leap. I insist.

Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 04:09 PM (UdwG8)

335 327 I don't understand. If they're declassified when he's President, why can't he make copies when he's not President anymore? They're declassified docs.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 17, 2022 04:08 PM (eyxn4)

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If Biden reclassifies them, or if they were declassified to some level that did not allow copying.

I haven't heard anything about Biden reclassifying everything, though. No idea if he has and it's just not been reported.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 17, 2022 04:09 PM (LvTSG)

336 254 This busty blonde golf chick thinks that Mar-a-Lago is for golfing, not for banana republic tyranny shit:
https://is.gd/rFzi0r
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 17, 2022 03:56 PM (WWh8n)


I wonder how many strokes is par for her?

Posted by: Diogenes at August 17, 2022 04:09 PM (anj39)

337 I'm not sure if Trump collected RussiaGate documents in an effort to later expose the misdeeds to the public.

The public are retards, largely. They only react if a celebrity slaps another celebrity or if a titty pops out during the Super Bowl.

Trump collected RG documents because he knew/knows the government will try to arrest and execute he and his family and asking for these documents for his defense during discovery would result in the government hiding all of the relevant info.

It's not to expose the DS, it's to protect his own ass
from the predictable show trials.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 17, 2022 04:09 PM (FkXak)

338 And it dodges the question: when has Russia/USSR EVER distributed 'humanitarian aid'?

When they find it useful as a publicity stunt. I cannot envision a circumstance where Ukraine passes a law to block something that doesn't exist.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 04:10 PM (Ivdso)

339 What's with Uke propagandist? Voice of Kiev closed down? Not enough funds?

Posted by: runner at August 17, 2022 04:10 PM (eisI8)

340 >>>How many times have they been warned about this very scenario? Eventually, the lies implodes any credibility. And, if I hear anything about messaging or pr, GTFOH! Pravda was less obvious.

Posted by: Watermelon Sugar


I saw a story yesterday claiming the J6 committee are confiscating Secret Service agents personal cell phones who were at the J6 shenanigans.

I giggled a little when I read that.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 17, 2022 04:10 PM (XSRBF)

341 Just the tip. Literally.

Posted by: ... at August 17, 2022 04:10 PM (feqn2)

342 Garland is shocked at the blowback?
........

Yeah well he's a dumbshit.

Posted by: wth at August 17, 2022 04:10 PM (v0R5T)

343 >>It is best to think of DC as issue networks of agencies, media, and political support/cover that are not wholly on the same page. Publicly, the media sets out the party line but behind the scenes these networks and their partisans clash over goals, resources, and strategy.

I think of DC as a John Wick movie. There is a High Table that operates behind the scenes and allow various families to run their criminal networks as long as they remain loyal to the rules the High Table institutes.

The end goal remains the same but the various families are often at odds with each other and operating independently.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 17, 2022 04:11 PM (ZLI7S)

344 Going to need an assist from rothlisberger otherwise.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy


I'm confused too. What do *part-time warrior* *yeomen* have to do with the Foreskin Wars? (really, the first battle therein - we're not done).

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 04:11 PM (e+yf1)

345 Some Canadian food processors secretly adding cricket flour and other insects into some of their name brand products.

You vill eat the bugs.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 17, 2022 04:11 PM (m7R0k)

346 I would bet my bottom dollar Russia is handing out "humanitarian aid" in the East of Ukraine. It's their circus, and their monkeys. Constituent service. If they're not, they're fools.

You might not be able to splash around the largesse of an American bureaucrat sponsoring a pedophile warlord in Central Asia, but you can at least hand out candy bars.


Of course - although they are handing out loaves of bread more than candy bars.

Russia has an interest in increasing the support of the population in the occupied areas - they're not doing it out of altruism.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 17, 2022 04:11 PM (I2/tG)

347 343 I think of DC as a John Wick movie. There is a High Table that operates behind the scenes and allow various families to run their criminal networks as long as they remain loyal to the rules the High Table institutes.

The end goal remains the same but the various families are often at odds with each other and operating independently.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 17, 2022 04:11 PM (ZLI7S)

=========

This explains why most of politics is really boring perfectly.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 17, 2022 04:11 PM (LvTSG)

348 So, the "surveillance" inside MAL wasn't video footage, it was Maggie's painfully stupid dramatic recreation of docs flushed by Trump?

That's what is in the warrant affidavits--a mess of technical legalese jargon that distills down to, "we saw the photo in the NYT and had to raid to prevent Trump from flushing more docs."

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 17, 2022 04:11 PM (Zf0+a)

349 330 Nice job cutting that off, btw.

He really peeled back the coverup there
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor a

It won't be long now.

Posted by: Mohel at August 17, 2022 04:12 PM (+Ff94)

350 Is there really a basement at MAL?

I didn't think people built basements in that part of Florida.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at August 17, 2022 04:12 PM (JVCkA)

351 Garland seems to be lost or straining to hear something. I'll bet he hoards stuff-like single socks!

Posted by: Watermelon Sugar at August 17, 2022 04:12 PM (QSPZM)

352 I saw a story yesterday claiming the J6 committee are confiscating Secret Service agents personal cell phones who were at the J6 shenanigans.

I mean... what are they hoping to find that helps their case? They can find an awful lot of chatter that makes their case look crappy but what do they think they'd find? Footage of some guy with a MAGA hat on shooting people?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 04:12 PM (Ivdso)

353 Garland is shocked at the blowback?
........
Yeah well he's a dumbshit.


He's a prick that walks into the DOJ, every day, to work. When he's done at work, he goes back to somewhere in DC to live.

At no point, ever, does he ever hear anybody say a smidge about how they don't need the help of DC. That's all there is to it.

Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 04:12 PM (UdwG8)

354
Why declassify documents and then just sit on them?

Fucking stupid.

The documents were just waiting to be seized.
Now they're gone.

Dumb. Dum. Dum.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 17, 2022 04:12 PM (jmDe3)

355 What's the name for this ploy-- planting a story with a friendly snitch-y "reporter' and then citing that published story as the ground for the warrant?

Posted by: LASue at August 17, 2022 04:12 PM (Ed8Zd)

356 I wonder how many strokes is par for her?
Posted by: Diogenes


She birdies every hole.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 04:13 PM (e+yf1)

357 355 What's the name for this ploy-- planting a story with a friendly snitch-y "reporter' and then citing that published story as the ground for the warrant?
Posted by: LASue at August 17, 2022 04:12 PM (Ed8Zd)

==========

"Best practices."
-The American IC

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 17, 2022 04:13 PM (LvTSG)

358 I don't want 'em to wait. I only get older while they wait. If they feel froggy ? Leap. I insist.
=
I can relate. I do wonder why they can't just wait another 20 years. Patience has paid off handsomely up to 2016. Is there a deadline we don't know about?

Posted by: Is it because they were so close and not "crisis" as Jane Austin might put it at August 17, 2022 04:13 PM (I/jDZ)

359 >>> 315
Yeah, but only while he is president. If he declassifies while he is president, removes at the end of his presidency, then copies after his presidency is over, no bueno.
Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 04:00 PM (e+yf1)

OK - not following. Why is making copies of non-classified material "no bueno"? It's unclassified.
Posted by: Iris at August 17, 2022 04:06 PM (foa6+)

Only properly qualified journalists such as myself are legally allowed to see such materials.

Posted by: Chris Cuomo at August 17, 2022 04:13 PM (llON8)

360 Russia has an interest in increasing the support of the population in the occupied areas - they're not doing it out of altruism.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

Really? Since when??

Cite a source. You whine about propaganda. Try providing information.

Posted by: zombie Josef Stalin at August 17, 2022 04:13 PM (cY9wR)

361 Nice job cutting that off, btw.

He really peeled back the coverup there

It won't be long now.
Posted by: Mohel

That's the kind of cutting remark we can do without

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 04:13 PM (Ivdso)

362 I would bet my bottom dollar Russia is handing out "humanitarian aid" in the East of Ukraine. It's their circus, and their monkeys. Constituent service. If they're not, they're fools.

You might not be able to splash around the largesse of an American bureaucrat sponsoring a pedophile warlord in Central Asia, but you can at least hand out candy bars.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2022 04:08 PM (IXpV7)

This is true, because these areas aren't going to be Ukranian for long. They will be part of the Russian Federation. They are already setting up new government structures in some areas, and they won't let them go back due to reprisals like the ones in the new law.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 17, 2022 04:14 PM (eoQWY)

363 This idea that Garland is "shocked" at the blowback is such an obvious lie, I don't know how anyone could give it remote countenance.

Always look at the underlying assumption when you hear something and you will observe a lot. The underlying assumption here is that Garland is just not a political animal. That his decision was made for an upstanding reason, not a political one.

It's the smelliest horseshit we've possibly ever been sold - and we've been sold some seriously smelly horseshit.

Posted by: ... at August 17, 2022 04:14 PM (feqn2)

364 >>>I mean... what are they hoping to find that helps their case? They can find an awful lot of chatter that makes their case look crappy but what do they think they'd find? Footage of some guy with a MAGA hat on shooting people?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


They certainly won't find the pipe bomber our betters claim they cannot find.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 17, 2022 04:14 PM (XSRBF)

365 Chuy Primo, PDT has a existing lawsuit against Killary and might he be holding off releasing this until it becomes public in court?

Posted by: Ben Had at August 17, 2022 04:14 PM (geRMl)

366 242 Friend of mine had a bear break into his rural cabin and shit all over the floors.

That sucks. I know exactly how he must feel.

Posted by: JILL BIDEN at August 17, 2022 04:14 PM (z9V4B)

367 I haven't heard anything about Biden reclassifying everything, though. No idea if he has and it's just not been reported.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 17, 2022 04:09 PM (LvTSG)
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Things that are classified are under the control of the government.

Classifying is not as easy as declassifying.

Otherwise, why couldn't Trump have re-classified Comey's "notes"? And if he could have done that, could he have collected them from the press organizations where Comey's lawyer spread them?

I mean, the media and anti-Trumpers will try to tell you some cock-and-bull story about something where there is no way they would allow that for Trump. But we don't have to fall for it.

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 04:15 PM (krQz2)

368
It reminds me of tv/movies when a naive dummy attempts to blackmail a ruthless villain.

The villain asks, "Have you told anyone else about this?"

Dummy says, "No, but I will if you don't meet my demands!"

Villain: "Agreed. Let's meet tonight in a secluded place."

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 17, 2022 04:15 PM (jmDe3)

369 338 "And it dodges the question: when has Russia/USSR EVER distributed 'humanitarian aid'?"

When they find it useful as a publicity stunt. I cannot envision a circumstance where Ukraine passes a law to block something that doesn't exist.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 04:10 PM (Ivdso)

The USSR heavily subsidized a lot of their far-flung empire, like Cuba.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 17, 2022 04:15 PM (b2nrj)

370 Kash Patel and Devin Nunes were on with Maria Bartiromo last Sunday doing a very good interview on this topic. Patel was working with the NARA on Trump's behalf to get the documents released and Nunes runs Truth Social for Trump. They have some pretty good insight into this issue since they were working on it.

If you haven't seen the interview you should look for it.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 17, 2022 04:15 PM (ZLI7S)

371 >>>Smahhrt people are often the easiest to con simply because they are afraid to admit that they don't understand something complicated or to display their ignorance asking questions.
Posted by: whig

This ^^^^^^ They are the very easiest to con sometimes.

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 17, 2022 04:15 PM (tQL7r)

372 >>after yesterday's Foreskin Wars and the refusal to drop the subject, i don't like where this is heading...

Nice job cutting that off, btw.
-------------
Why? Do you want some Mohel??

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 17, 2022 04:15 PM (yikp0)

373 cY9wR

Hmmm... I wonder if Kiev has the equivalent of the "Internet Research Agency" in St. Petersburg?

I bet they do!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 17, 2022 04:15 PM (I2/tG)

374 Obviously, there's more, so, yeah, any trust the FBI had was squandered long ago.
Posted by: blake


Branch Davidians & Randy Weaver.
Trust = shot

Posted by: rickb223 at August 17, 2022 04:15 PM (LNtgV)

375 OK - not following. Why is making copies of non-classified material "no bueno"? It's unclassified.
Posted by: Iris


Good point. I'm a dummy.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 04:15 PM (e+yf1)

376 oh, what I was getting at, regarding YEOMAN and PART-TIME WARRIORS, was my fear that this was going to become another LONGBOW thread.

Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 17, 2022 04:15 PM (B3oWe)

377 Seems all of DC is a Leftist Hive thinking

Posted by: Skip at August 17, 2022 04:16 PM (k8B25)

378 I find it hard to believe the Clintons have that much power these days. Both have been out of office a long time. Chelsea doesn't seem to be going into politics. Obama tried to purge their influence. And any blackmail material they have must be old stuff.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 17, 2022 04:16 PM (9WSy4)

379 What's the name for this ploy-- planting a story with a friendly snitch-y "reporter' and then citing that published story as the ground for the warrant?
Posted by: LASue at August 17, 2022 04:12 PM (Ed8Zd)
++++
I don't know the name of the method. They use it, though.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 17, 2022 04:16 PM (WWh8n)

380 >>I would bet my bottom dollar Russia is handing out "humanitarian aid" in the East of Ukraine.


Pretty sure Russians have been giving all sorts of aid to the Pro-Russian/Ethnic Russians the Donbas region since back in 2015 or so.

Posted by: garrett at August 17, 2022 04:16 PM (IDNOW)

381 Garland seems to be lost or straining to hear something. I'll bet he hoards stuff-like single socks!

Posted by: Watermelon Sugar at August 17, 2022 04:12 PM (QSPZM)

What if the other sock comes back?

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 04:16 PM (yHsuS)

382
"And don't forget to bring the evidence."

Then when they meet, the villain has one last question: "Did you make any copies?"

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 17, 2022 04:16 PM (jmDe3)

383 376 oh, what I was getting at, regarding YEOMAN and PART-TIME WARRIORS, was my fear that this was going to become another LONGBOW thread.
Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 17, 2022 04:15 PM (B3oWe)

=========

*the Composite Bow has entered the chat*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 17, 2022 04:16 PM (LvTSG)

384 Garland is shocked at the blowback?


A small vanguard to run everything. A stable of cadre to implement, and a host of useful idiots to believe it. These fools live in an echo chamber, hanging on every word given to them by their masters. Believing or hearing nothing else.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 17, 2022 04:16 PM (anj39)

385

The Dems--especially Hillary's goons--play offense relentlessly while the GOPe reflexively spread their ass cheeks and reach for the Vaseline.

It was never a fair fight until the Orange Man Cometh.

Posted by: Voter theater. at August 17, 2022 04:16 PM (pcTxf)

386 This is true, because these areas aren't going to be Ukranian for long. They will be part of the Russian Federation. They are already setting up new government structures in some areas, and they won't let them go back due to reprisals like the ones in the new law.
Posted by: Oldcat

Or tanks. There's often a lack of food, especially where Ukrainians are involved. But never a lack of tanks.

Ask Budapest, Berlin, Prague.....

Posted by: zombie Josef Stalin at August 17, 2022 04:16 PM (cY9wR)

387 I mean... what are they hoping to find that helps their case? They can find an awful lot of chatter that makes their case look crappy but what do they think they'd find? Footage of some guy with a MAGA hat on shooting people?
==
Emails between SS agents on Trumps detail communicating/coordinating wreckers and saboteurs at Trumps request. Because that would the leftists shit heads would have done. They are incapable of formulating a thought that isn't conceived in malice, deceit and hate. Its an occupational hazard.

Posted by: the D'vil you say at August 17, 2022 04:16 PM (2h5La)

388 376 oh, what I was getting at, regarding YEOMAN and PART-TIME WARRIORS, was my fear that this was going to become another LONGBOW thread.
Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 17, 2022 04:15 PM (B3oWe)

So we were going off half-cocked with the dicks thing.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 17, 2022 04:16 PM (b2nrj)

389
i was just a little sensitive to the discussion about foreskins. After a little time, I've grown less sensitive.

Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 17, 2022 04:17 PM (B3oWe)

390 A good comment at Neo's site:

"Trump apparently intended to release the documents as part of his RICO suit against Hillary and others:

(Google link)

And the judge assigned to that case is the same one who authorized the MAL search. I assume that they will now argue the documents Trump retained can’t be introduced into evidence (in Trump's suite) because they are tied up in Garland’s criminal investigation."

Posted by: pawn at August 17, 2022 04:17 PM (kYVzH)

391 The only way to clean up the FBI would be a larger than average gallows.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 17, 2022 04:17 PM (VdGjU)

392 Garland was assured by Clinton that there would be no blowback.

Posted by: runner at August 17, 2022 04:17 PM (eisI8)

393 389
i was just a little sensitive to the discussion about foreskins. After a little time, I've grown less sensitive.
Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 17, 2022 04:17 PM (B3oWe)

=======

I don't get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 17, 2022 04:17 PM (LvTSG)

394 I said a while ago I thought this was a Hillary op more than a Biden op. Biden hates Trump, but I don't know that he (or his handlers) would mobilize the IC to go after him.

Hillary absolutely would because that's what she did back in 2016 with the whole Russiagate thing to begin with.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 17, 2022 04:17 PM (YIVH2)

395 I would bet my bottom dollar Russia is handing out "humanitarian aid" in the East of Ukraine.


Pretty sure Russians have been giving all sorts of aid to the Pro-Russian/Ethnic Russians the Donbas region since back in 2015 or so.
Posted by: garrett

This is plausible.

Posted by: zombie Josef Stalin at August 17, 2022 04:17 PM (cY9wR)

396 I wonder how many strokes is par for her?
Posted by: Diogenes at August 17, 2022 04:09 PM (anj39)

Whatever it takes to get the next modelling job. From her expression I bet that even that woman think it's ridiculous to pretend she's a golfer.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 17, 2022 04:17 PM (wvo9L)

397 354. Maybe Jared talked him out of it, or that POS, Ponce

Posted by: CN at August 17, 2022 04:17 PM (Zzbjj)

398 They certainly won't find the pipe bomber our betters claim they cannot find.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 17, 2022 04:14 PM (XSRBF)
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If you planned the onslaught of an "insurrection" to use bombs, why would you "attack" without them?

Just dying to see how insurrecting without weapons goes?

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 04:18 PM (krQz2)

399 What's the name for this ploy-- planting a story with a friendly snitch-y "reporter' and then citing that published story as the ground for the warrant?

Posted by: LASue at August 17, 2022 04:12 PM (Ed8Zd)

Standard operating procedure for the FBI.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 04:18 PM (yHsuS)

400 The USSR heavily subsidized a lot of their far-flung empire, like Cuba.

The USSR also completely rebuilt Ukraine and Belarus, which were thoroughly trashed in the Second World War.

Again, not altruism - but it was beneficial to the USSR.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 17, 2022 04:18 PM (I2/tG)

401 They certainly won't find the pipe bomber our betters claim they cannot find.

Unless one of the Capitol Police or Secret Service guys was the one who planted them

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 04:18 PM (Ivdso)

402 I would bet my bottom dollar Russia is handing out "humanitarian aid" in the East of Ukraine. It's their circus, and their monkeys. Constituent service. If they're not, they're fools.

*

To the pro-Russia people in eastern Ukraine who are pro-Russia?

Gasp!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Norway only has EVs because the government has guns at August 17, 2022 04:18 PM (+zy2u)

403 I can relate. I do wonder why they can't just wait another 20 years. Patience has paid off handsomely up to 2016. Is there a deadline we don't know about?

I wonder that early and often. The theory often brought up here, and its not a bad one, is that they thought they had this all locked up in 2016. Everything else is just a spastic reaction.

I don't know. It doesn't explain everything to me. Then again, as I hammer on folks here all the time, you lose in poker by assuming the other guy will play like you would, unless you play extremely tight, fundamentally sound, work the odds, and accept small returns. You win big, quickly, once you figure out how he plays and use that.

I don't know. Something is off.

Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 04:18 PM (UdwG8)

404 Who is Desantis dem opponent for Gov this year?

Posted by: Jonah at August 17, 2022 04:18 PM (AOZtW)

405 This is true, because these areas aren't going to be Ukranian for long. They will be part of the Russian Federation. They are already setting up new government structures in some areas, and they won't let them go back due to reprisals like the ones in the new law.
Posted by: Oldcat

Or tanks. There's often a lack of food, especially where Ukrainians are involved. But never a lack of tanks.

Ask Budapest, Berlin, Prague.....
Posted by: zombie Josef Stalin at August 17, 2022 04:16 PM (cY9wR)

So far this seems to be an infantry and artillery battle. And even the Chechens are contributing a lot of the infantry cleaning up the towns and cities.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 17, 2022 04:18 PM (eoQWY)

406 308 CDC Director Rochelle Walensky is reorganizing the agency,
***
Will she fire herself? Didn't think so.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 17, 2022 04:18 PM (H8QX8)

407 Garland was assured by Clinton that there would be no blowback.
Posted by: runner at August 17, 2022 04:17 PM (eisI
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And no math.

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 04:18 PM (krQz2)

408 I can relate. I do wonder why they can't just wait another 20 years. Patience has paid off handsomely up to 2016. Is there a deadline we don't know about?

Posted by: Is it because they were so close and not "crisis" as Jane Austin might put it at August 17, 2022 04:13 PM (I/jDZ)

They are dying, too.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 04:19 PM (yHsuS)

409 404 Who is Desantis dem opponent for Gov this year?
Posted by: Jonah at August 17, 2022 04:18 PM (AOZtW)

=======

Probably Crist. Primary is next week.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 17, 2022 04:19 PM (LvTSG)

410 Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 17, 2022 04:16 PM (9WSy4)

Her "but her emails" campaign came with some very suspect timing.

Posted by: ... at August 17, 2022 04:19 PM (feqn2)

411 The Dems--especially Hillary's goons--play offense relentlessly while the GOPe reflexively spread their ass cheeks and reach for the Vaseline.


Mike Pence just volunteered VOLUNTEERED to testify in front of the Jan 6th clown show.

Posted by: Maj. Healey Will Never Consume Bugs Or Bug Parts at August 17, 2022 04:19 PM (m7R0k)

412 Garland is shocked at the blowback?
==
Hitler, I'm sure, would have felt unappreciated that the Jews didn't appreciate the efficiency with which he implemented his final solution. Had he wound up on trial at Nuremburg instead of shooting himself in the head after eating cyanide. Then having his remains set on fire.

Posted by: the D'vil you say at August 17, 2022 04:19 PM (2h5La)

413 Last thing we need is a bunch of guys bragging about how long their bow is

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 04:19 PM (Ivdso)

414 If this is really a banana republic, where the heck are all my bananas? I'd love a daiquiri about now.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at August 17, 2022 04:20 PM (zB/T/)

415 The USSR also completely rebuilt Ukraine and Belarus, which were thoroughly trashed in the Second World War.

Again, not altruism - but it was beneficial to the USSR.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

And you unwittingly struck upon the difference between humanitarian aid and rations for prisoners of your empire.

Congratulations.

Posted by: zombie Josef Stalin at August 17, 2022 04:20 PM (cY9wR)

416 "Trump apparently intended to release the documents as part of his RICO suit against Hillary and others:





In a letter to Rep. Jim Jordan and Rep. Matt Gaetz, whistleblowers revealed that the FBI has maintained a “secure work environment” within Perkins Coie offices for over a DECADE, which is still in operation today, according to exclusive information on Tucker Carlson. Meanwhile, the liberal-leaning law firm represents Hillary Clinton, is the DNC’s law firm, and has received over $42 million from the political party.

Posted by: FARVA at August 17, 2022 04:20 PM (z9V4B)

417 Who is Desantis dem opponent for Gov this year?
Posted by: Jonah at August 17, 2022 04:18

Beto

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 17, 2022 04:20 PM (VdGjU)

418 Her "but her emails" campaign came with some very suspect timing.

Right, that's the key that made me figure its related to Hillary. Her putting out that stupid stuff THE VERY SAME DAY?? Its typical stone eared Hillary stuff, unable to sense the human tone of an event because she's psychotic.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 04:20 PM (Ivdso)

419 Also Mike Pence, people demanding to defund the FBI are like the people demanding to defund the police.

Posted by: Maj. Healey Will Never Consume Bugs Or Bug Parts at August 17, 2022 04:21 PM (m7R0k)

420 BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: Trump Got’em – Huge Concerns About Peter Strzok Working for the CIA Are Likely at the Heart of Mar-a-Lago RAID:

SOT semi on topic/ https://tinyurl.com/3a646uxr

Posted by: Commentor What Got a Shrit at August 17, 2022 04:21 PM (kkKmS)

421 Clinton people? Nope all President Zero and his comrades. Brennan at the lead

Posted by: Jonah at August 17, 2022 04:21 PM (AOZtW)

422 376 nope, still not getting it.

389 that's more my speed.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 04:21 PM (e+yf1)

423 These fools live in an echo chamber, hanging on every word given to them by their masters. Believing or hearing nothing else.

Putin seriously believed that Ukraine would collapse within hours of the start of the invasion. (To be fair, so did the US government.)

Same sort of echo chamber - Putin was only told what he wanted to hear.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 17, 2022 04:21 PM (I2/tG)

424
Do you have to bring back the memory of my circumcision in this thread?! I couldn't walk for an entire year after that happened.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 17, 2022 04:21 PM (jE276)

425 I went to a storage locker auction but there was a box in there labeled TOP SECRET so I didn't buy it.
Posted by: wth at August 17, 2022 03:54 PM


If I could be sure it couldn't be traced back to me, my best practical joke plan would be to collect all of the empty TV / expensive item boxes right after Christmas, put them all in a storage locker, pay for one month's rent, then go to the eventual auction to watch the fun after someone "wins" that locker

Posted by: Chuck C at August 17, 2022 04:21 PM (xttsV)

426 Heh. Apparently Liz Cheney is mobilizing a unified effort to oppose any plans Trump may have for re-election.

I'm sure PDT is quaking in his boots.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 17, 2022 04:21 PM (N7OEF)

427 The uke bastards have been arresting people who accept aid from Russia for a while now. Zelensky's as pro democracy as Liz " we don't allow cross examination" Cheney.

Posted by: CN at August 17, 2022 04:21 PM (Zzbjj)

428 I wonder that early and often. The theory often brought up here, and its not a bad one, is that they thought they had this all locked up in 2016. Everything else is just a spastic reaction.

I don't know. It doesn't explain everything to me. Then again, as I hammer on folks here all the time, you lose in poker by assuming the other guy will play like you would, unless you play extremely tight, fundamentally sound, work the odds, and accept small returns. You win big, quickly, once you figure out how he plays and use that.

I don't know. Something is off.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 04:18 PM (UdwG

The USSR was running a lot of our leftism up until it collapsed(there are still some communist and environmental orgs that are Russian but politically they're much less important). Ted Kennedy was the last leader of a united Democrat party. It looks less coordinated because it genuinely is less coordinated than the past.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 17, 2022 04:21 PM (b2nrj)

429 Really? Since when??

Cite a source. You whine about propaganda. Try providing information.
Posted by: zombie Josef Stalin


Source? aren't you paying attention. Every time the retreat it is "a humanitarian pause." Every time they build a base it is "infrastructure to rebuild for the public."....

You want a source, well let's start with Molotov's "food aid" in the winter war. And they still use that same tactic.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 17, 2022 04:21 PM (+Ff94)

430 Imagine if you will about a news network so radical that it makes Fox look like NPR.
This is fearful news you should hear but will have to wait until we have the ability to....

Posted by: humphreyrobot at August 17, 2022 04:22 PM (J8LnB)

431 >>>If you planned the onslaught of an "insurrection" to use bombs, why would you "attack" without them?

Just dying to see how insurrecting without weapons goes?

Posted by: Axeman

I absolutely believe this was a Gestapo agent planting this to make Trump/MAGA look bad. D.C has cameras almost everywhere and no one in the DoJ can find anything on this guy? Cripes, my department is a disaster and our cameras catch offenders all the time.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 17, 2022 04:22 PM (XSRBF)

432 oh, what I was getting at, regarding YEOMAN and PART-TIME WARRIORS, was my fear that this was going to become another LONGBOW thread.
Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 17, 2022 04:15 PM (B3oWe)
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Would that make you a cross beau?

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 04:22 PM (krQz2)

433 How does a President write his memoirs without keeping copies?

Three copies, Archives, Presidential Library, President’s own hoard for the book?

Did Trump scan the documents he most wanted copies of?


Posted by: Goatweed at August 17, 2022 04:22 PM (0Q/6W)

434 Same sort of echo chamber - Putin was only told what he wanted to hear.

For like 1000 years the Russian military has been good at fooling its government that it is significantly better than it actually is.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 04:22 PM (Ivdso)

435 Do you have to bring back the memory of my circumcision in this thread?! I couldn't walk for an entire year after that happened.

Posted by: Divide by Zero

Walk? I shit on myself for a solid year, at least.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 17, 2022 04:22 PM (LNtgV)

436 The uke bastards have been arresting people who accept aid from Russia for a while now. Zelensky's as pro democracy as Liz " we don't allow cross examination" Cheney.
Posted by: CN at August 17, 2022 04:21 PM (Zzbjj)

The making all opposition parties illegal is a first hint. His buying up lots of land in Switzerland for his escape is another.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 17, 2022 04:22 PM (eoQWY)

437 419. VP Ponce is a fucking schemer.

Posted by: CN at August 17, 2022 04:22 PM (Zzbjj)

438 Whatever it takes to get the next modelling job. From her expression I bet that even that woman think it's ridiculous to pretend she's a golfer.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 17, 2022 04:17 PM (wvo9L)

I can guess what you are thinking Fenelon, but in this case she is a professional golfer. I once read an interview where she said she can't help how she looks, but if it helps make money (in this case, endorsements) then she was gong to do it. She backs it up with good golf.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 17, 2022 04:22 PM (anj39)

439 Probably Crist. Primary is next week.

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I just saw a poll earlier today showing him at 56% in the D primary. Crist is like a reoccurring herpes infection that won't go away.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 17, 2022 04:23 PM (sVtYq)

440 >>> 386 This is true, because these areas aren't going to be Ukranian for long. They will be part of the Russian Federation. They are already setting up new government structures in some areas, and they won't let them go back due to reprisals like the ones in the new law.
Posted by: Oldcat

Or tanks. There's often a lack of food, especially where Ukrainians are involved. But never a lack of tanks.

Ask Budapest, Berlin, Prague.....
Posted by: zombie Josef Stalin at August 17, 2022 04:16 PM (cY9wR)

Why does anyone believe anything either side is saying, without some form of corroborating information? This sounds like some rando journalist trying to convince us Russia is EXACTLY the Soviet Union right now and this is why we should hate OrangeManBad. Or maybe Lt Col Bearclaw justifying his "whistleblowing".

I'm trying to figure out why we should give a flying fck about Poo Tin ahead of say, oh I don't know, the Wicked Evil Freakshow that wants to murder 98% of us.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 04:23 PM (llON8)

441 The USSR heavily subsidized a lot of their far-flung empire, like Cuba.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 17, 2022 04:15 PM (b2nrj)

Indeed.

Much of the globe was propped up by Soviet subsidies laundered through their Politburo, in turn after their extortion of the same money from the West.

An international version of robbing Peter to bribe Paul, that lasted for half a century.

My favorite outcome of this was when the Norks had that nasty famine after the USSR collapsed - and tried to defray their debt to Russia with a gigantic slave trade as a transfer payment. I think it was like 100,000 or so slaves, if memory serves.

Go Team Left. Keep it classy.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2022 04:23 PM (IXpV7)

442 220 186 No-one likes Barnes' theories more than Barnes.
Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 03:52 PM (e+yf1)

Isn't that true of us all?
Posted by: Aetius451AD


Barnes is like an intellectual Alex Jones. He tends to throw stuff at the wall to see if it will stick. I'm Barnes-skeptical based on shit he's done in the past.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 04:23 PM (e+yf1)

443 Garland is the professor of your first College class, who shows up the first day, and then never returns the rest of the semester` to write his book Middle Age sewage systems.

Posted by: Jonah at August 17, 2022 04:23 PM (AOZtW)

444 oh, what I was getting at, regarding YEOMAN and PART-TIME WARRIORS, was my fear that this was going to become another LONGBOW thread.

Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 17, 2022 04:15 PM (B3oWe)

I understand that you are overly sensitive to the matter and wish to cut it off at the beginning.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 04:23 PM (yHsuS)

445 Source? aren't you paying attention. Every time the retreat it is "a humanitarian pause." Every time they build a base it is "infrastructure to rebuild for the public."....

You want a source, well let's start with Molotov's "food aid" in the winter war. And they still use that same tactic.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest

Ah yes; Molotovs' "bread baskets"

Posted by: zombie Josef Stalin at August 17, 2022 04:23 PM (cY9wR)

446 Last thing we need is a bunch of guys bragging about how long their bow is
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Short and thick does the trick.

Posted by: Crossbow at August 17, 2022 04:24 PM (yikp0)

447 ... or maybe the subjects of this very thread, who are inside our borders, the DOJ and Eff.Bee.EYE???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 04:24 PM (llON8)

448 Some Canadian food processors secretly adding cricket flour and other insects into some of their name brand products.

Some serious shit being stirred right there. We have discussed USDA v. Canadian flour standards here before. The Canadian standard for insect parts is zeeeeeee-ro. Ours is...not. So at major US silos, bug parts removed are stored so that cleaner flour can be stretched just enough to meet the US standard. Everybody in the grain business bitches about having to live up to Canadian standards in the world market.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at August 17, 2022 04:24 PM (x61Im)

449 >>>Who is Desantis dem opponent for Gov this year?
Posted by: Jonah


Nikki Fried, a fairly attractive leftist idiot.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 17, 2022 04:24 PM (XSRBF)

450 Right, that's the key that made me figure its related to Hillary. Her putting out that stupid stuff THE VERY SAME DAY?? Its typical stone eared Hillary stuff, unable to sense the human tone of an event because she's psychotic.

Yeah, she started hawking the merchandise while the FBI was still inside Mar-A-Lago. That definitely stood out.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 17, 2022 04:25 PM (ZGrMX)

451 Emails between SS agents on Trumps detail communicating/coordinating wreckers and saboteurs at Trumps request. Because that would the leftists shit heads would have done. They are incapable of formulating a thought that isn't conceived in malice, deceit and hate. Its an occupational hazard.

Posted by: the D'vil you say at August 17, 2022 04:16 PM (2h5La)

Good observation. They can't conceive of a grass roots protest, because everything they do is top down.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 04:25 PM (yHsuS)

452 Some Canadian food processors secretly adding cricket flour and other insects into some of their name brand products.

"Akkghh gkdkhhhh hahhhhh"
--dying shellfish allergic

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 17, 2022 04:25 PM (Ivdso)

453 308 CDC Director Rochelle Walensky is reorganizing the agency,
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Will she fire herself? Didn't think so.
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 17, 2022 04:18 PM (H8QX

That's in envelope #3.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 17, 2022 04:26 PM (4I/2K)

454 I agree that the affidavit is probably a long, boring legalese infused piece of shit that is clearly bogus for a real warrant issuance - and the DOJ (not the FBI) waited until they were before the right idiot judge in order to issue it.

Nothing is going to come of this raid now - I think any indictment in DC being discussed is a non-starter. Sure, Merrick Garland is a weird Nazi, but he's not into getting something started that gets his reputation stained to the point that legal people start pointing and doing the Nelson Muntz laugh...and he's allowed these liberals to push him dangerously close to having that be his legal legacy.

You can't have third graders screeching for something that you, a grown man who has been in the legal world for 45 years, knows makes you look like a buffoon, much less a Nazi to 50% plus of the country - even if all the babies at WAPO and the NYTs want it badly. They can get screech to get veteran reporters kick off the NY Times editorial board - its a different story getting you to make yourself into a complete nutbag in front of your colleagues that you respect.

I'm going out on a limb - Garland drops this whole thing.

Posted by: Boswell at August 17, 2022 04:26 PM (+Cgut)

455 Tomorrow, Epstein attorney Reinhart will judge the issue of releasing or keeping secret the government affidavit used to get the search warrant. The hearing is set for 1 PM, eastern. The Trump prosecution is headed for court at some point soon (I would guess immediately after the midterms), so we will presumably get to see it then.

The Fed were looking for something specific, and since no one is leaking anything, it seems likely they did not find it, whatever it is. More search warrants coming, in more jurisdictions? Somehow, I think Garland shot his wad with this one, given the tenor of his hostage video news conference the other day, but who knows how desperate the deep state really is and how willing they are to keep pushing this search warrant stuff.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 17, 2022 04:26 PM (iIRco)

456 I'd like the Kafka book Metamorphosis changed with Merrick Garland Garland replacing Gregor Samsa as the cockroach.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 17, 2022 04:26 PM (VdGjU)

457 D.C has cameras almost everywhere and no one in the DoJ can find anything on this guy? Cripes, my department is a disaster and our cameras catch offenders all the time.
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None of the cameras were working that night.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 17, 2022 04:26 PM (yikp0)

458 The part of Robert Barnes' theory I don't buy is that the departments and agencies would share their most sensitive documents with Trump, just handing over material they could be blackmailed with. Remember, this is Trump asking for the documents. You really think the Swamp is going to share their most precious secrets with their nemesis? It is possible he got a hold of some incriminating Russiagate papers somehow, but as Ace points out, if he had a real smoking-gun document, he'd have released it by now. But they might still be fishing to see what he has, just to make sure.

Incidentally, Paul Sperry is a hell of a reporter. He was with Investor's Business Daily for many years. Sure, he's not perfect, but his track record is leagues better than most of his competitors. He's one of the few who cite "anonymous sources" you can trust.

Posted by: Rusty Trawler at August 17, 2022 04:26 PM (1gif2)

459 I absolutely believe this was a Gestapo agent planting this to make Trump/MAGA look bad. D.C has cameras almost everywhere and no one in the DoJ can find anything on this guy? Cripes, my department is a disaster and our cameras catch offenders all the time.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 17, 2022 04:22 PM (XSRBF)
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So do I.

I'm just talking about how little sense there is in the story they want us to believe.

"See! It was dangerous! They planted bombs!"

"But they didn't go off, and yet they proceeded largely unarmed--and all it took was one person getting shot, like they didn't know that anyone was going to get shot."

There's really no tie to the bombs, or any indication that the "attackers" expected bombs to go off, because they didn't seem to wait for them, and supposedly the "attack" happened, largely unarmed without the bombs.

The only "proof" they have is "OF COURSE THEY PLANTED THE BOMBS! WHAT KIND OF CONSPIRACY NUT ARE YOU??!!"

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 04:26 PM (krQz2)

460 Did David S. Ferriero make any strong passionate statements about the integrity of records when Hillary Clinton's secret email server came to light? When Hillary's staffers smashed cell phones and used BleachBit on the server *after* Congress subpoenaed her?

I believe he is just another Deep State hack.

Posted by: mr_jack at August 17, 2022 04:27 PM (57l0O)

461 Posted by: Diogenes at August 17, 2022 04:22 PM (anj39)

Well, then I apologize. Nothing like making money the old fashioned way-baring your boobs. Glad she actually plays golf However, many of these Models are put in setting with their props. The props have nothing to do with them.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 17, 2022 04:27 PM (wvo9L)

462 We need Trump just so some of them die of traumatic foot stomping.

Posted by: DaveA at August 17, 2022 04:27 PM (FhXTo)

463 and tried to defray their debt to Russia with a gigantic slave trade as a transfer payment. I think it was like 100,000 or so slaves, if memory serves.

Somebody has to cut down the trees in Siberia.

Posted by: The Kims! at August 17, 2022 04:27 PM (I2/tG)

464 >>> 426 Heh. Apparently Liz Cheney is mobilizing a unified effort to oppose any plans Trump may have for re-election.

I'm sure PDT is quaking in his boots.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 17, 2022 04:21 PM (N7OEF)

LOL

Or she's the sucker who was voluntold to be the figurehead of what already existed.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 04:27 PM (llON8)

465 Incidentally, Paul Sperry is a hell of a reporter. He was with Investor's Business Daily for many years. Sure, he's not perfect, but his track record is leagues better than most of his competitors. He's one of the few who cite "anonymous sources" you can trust.
Posted by: Rusty Trawler at August 17, 2022 04:26 PM (1gif2)
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Yeah, I'm not sure about what Chuy said either.

I've never found anything he reported to be proven wrong.

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 04:28 PM (krQz2)

466 Her "but her emails" campaign came with some very suspect timing.

Posted by: ... at August 17, 2022 04:19 PM (feqn2)

Another good point. It probably takes a few weeks to get that sort of thing going. Same timing as Garlique telegraphing the raid, before he disavowed responsibility for it, and before he flopped and claimed credit for it.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 04:28 PM (yHsuS)

467 Some Canadian food processors secretly adding cricket flour and other insects into some of their name brand products.

"Akkghh gkdkhhhh hahhhhh"
--dying shellfish allergic
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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Yet another way of killing off the population.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 17, 2022 04:28 PM (flCnw)

468 The USSR was running a lot of our leftism up until it collapsed(there are still some communist and environmental orgs that are Russian but politically they're much less important). Ted Kennedy was the last leader of a united Democrat party. It looks less coordinated because it genuinely is less coordinated than the past.

I buy that. It is a UniParty, yet its not monolithic.

But there's something going on here, I've always ascribed it to old school Boomer Ideology, that just doesn't give two shit about results in real time. And it could be nothing more than old school Boomer Left Ideology getting their last win before they croak.

But that doesn't explain this on a global level. Every white, western, English speaking country is going absolutely fucking out of their minds right now. We are. Canada is. UK is. New Zealand and Australia. They didn't all have the same Baby Boom.

I can't explain it. But I can see it.

Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 04:28 PM (UdwG8)

469 ha some commentors here are like little kids waiting to be rescued by a superhero.... Screw Desantis for now... plus no one mentions Kari Lake.. Whydid Desantis travel to AZ to a Kari Lake rally.. or should we call it a MAGA rally? Desantis sees what I see Kari Lake if she governs like she talks is a natural magnet for the so called suburban housewives that polls showed were supposedly shunned away by Trump anyway keep focused you dillwads don't go wobbly now!!!

Posted by: Commentor What Got a Shrit at August 17, 2022 04:29 PM (kkKmS)

470 I'm trying to figure out why we should give a flying fck about Poo Tin ahead of say, oh I don't know, the Wicked Evil Freakshow that wants to murder 98% of us.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 04:23 PM (llON


You don't. None of us should give a fuck about Ukraine. Let Europe deal with them them. And Russia. If there was ever a case for US neutrality, this is it.

Posted by: runner at August 17, 2022 04:30 PM (eisI8)

471 I can guess what you are thinking Fenelon, but in this case she is a professional golfer.
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Don't go burstin' Fen's bubble with facts and logic.

Posted by: everybody knows all lady golfers are trollish hags /s at August 17, 2022 04:30 PM (ku1Ma)

472 I understand Paige "Spin her rack" Oh, sorry, Spiranac is a golfer too. She seems to spend more time as a "influencer" however.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 17, 2022 04:31 PM (wvo9L)

473
To be fair to the Russians - it was the "new" Russia, and they did decline the slaves as payment.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2022 04:31 PM (IXpV7)

474 First Starbucks to unionize in California on strike in Santa Cruz

https://tinyurl.com/5n6vaved

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 17, 2022 04:31 PM (BqFQD)

475 But that doesn't explain this on a global level. Every white, western, English speaking country is going absolutely fucking out of their minds right now. We are. Canada is. UK is. New Zealand and Australia. They didn't all have the same Baby Boom.

I can't explain it. But I can see it.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat

**

I'm going with China. China has bought leadership of all of them. Heck, there was something before the election that Biden only cost $10M.

It's amazing to think that huge 1st world nations were probably sold down the river for less than $1B total dollars in cash payments to politicians and government employees.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Norway only has EVs because the government has guns at August 17, 2022 04:31 PM (+zy2u)

476 My fear is the feds no longer care. They are convinced that they now have enough power to crush with impunity any of us peons that might question them. Not like anybody in DC is lifting a finger to stop or even slow them down one bit.

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Impunity. Say it. Learn it. Live it, peons.

Posted by: JM in Florida at August 17, 2022 04:31 PM (43+8z)

477 230 I was a huge Pence supporter for his work in 2016. He provided a stable part of the ticket that got many votes in the Midwest. He was great on election night introducing Trump also. Heroic pro lofer too

Saddens me that he went to the Dark side, and succumbed to the Deep State

Posted by: Jonah at August 17, 2022 03:57 PM (AOZtW)
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When he was still governor he succumbed too quickly and backpedaled on the Defense of Marriage legislation. That's when he lost me so I was never a fan of him as VP.

Posted by: Ciampino - another lamppost? at August 17, 2022 04:31 PM (qfLjt)

478 This has Epstein written all over it.

Can I gets dibs for concocting this expression?

Posted by: humphreyrobot at August 17, 2022 04:32 PM (J8LnB)

479 >>> 468

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I buy that. It is a UniParty, yet its not monolithic.

But there's something going on here, I've always ascribed it to old school Boomer Ideology, that just doesn't give two shit about results in real time. And it could be nothing more than old school Boomer Left Ideology getting their last win before they croak.

But that doesn't explain this on a global level. Every white, western, English speaking country is going absolutely fucking out of their minds right now. We are. Canada is. UK is. New Zealand and Australia. They didn't all have the same Baby Boom.

I can't explain it. But I can see it.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 04:28 PM (UdwG

*tee hee*

Posted by: Stan at August 17, 2022 04:32 PM (llON8)

480 She seems to spend more time as a "influencer" however.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke


Influencing pays better.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 04:32 PM (e+yf1)

481 Barnes is entertaining, if nothing else. He's new to me and I don't know his history or background, but I do like hearing his take on current things.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 17, 2022 04:32 PM (4I/2K)

482 Technically the DOJ should be gathering these documents to prosecute the Deep State operatives that undermined the Trump administration.

Posted by: bang-a-gong at August 17, 2022 04:32 PM (Sy+xI)

483 Chyron on local news: 'Cheney's Future' not 'Cheney's crushing defeat/repudiation' or 'That was a bad ass whipping.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 17, 2022 04:32 PM (HJDAV)

484 However, many of these Models are put in setting with their props. The props have nothing to do with them.
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So true. David Hasslehoff couldn't sing a note!

Posted by: Doncha know at August 17, 2022 04:32 PM (7YH0l)

485 Factories in China’s southwest have shut down and a city imposed rolling blackouts after reservoirs to generate hydropower ran low in a worsening drought, adding to economic strains at a time when President Xi Jinping is trying to extend his hold on power.

Posted by: SMOD at August 17, 2022 04:33 PM (RHGPo)

486 Walk? I shit on myself for a solid year, at least.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 17, 2022 04:22 PM (LNtgV)

I cried like a baby.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 04:33 PM (yHsuS)

487 Yet another way of killing off the population.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 17, 2022 04:28 PM (flCnw)
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And the parasites that insects carry around.

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 04:33 PM (krQz2)

488 >>> 474 First Starbucks to unionize in California on strike in Santa Cruz

https://tinyurl.com/5n6vaved
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 17, 2022 04:31 PM (BqFQD)

HA HA!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 04:33 PM (llON8)

489 Don't go burstin' Fen's bubble with facts and logic.
Posted by: everybody knows all lady golfers are trollish hags /s at August 17, 2022 04:30 PM (ku1Ma)

I apologized.

Yes; because everybody who models golfing attire is a professional golfer. How did the women golfers survive before they did boob shots?. Just, you know, play darn good golf?.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 17, 2022 04:33 PM (wvo9L)

490 But that doesn't explain this on a global level. Every white, western, English speaking country is going absolutely fucking out of their minds right now. We are. Canada is. UK is. New Zealand and Australia.

Because they're all run by WEF agents (New Zealand, Canada, possibly UK soon) or people who are WEF-adjacent (US, Australia).

Posted by: Ian S. at August 17, 2022 04:33 PM (ZGrMX)

491
But that doesn't explain this on a global level. Every white, western, English speaking country is going absolutely fucking out of their minds right now. We are. Canada is. UK is. New Zealand and Australia.

------

It's the death spasm of a civilization. Every generation grows more corrupt in its comfort until everything crumbles apart. It's just human nature.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2022 04:33 PM (IXpV7)

492 Can we haz strikes at Amazon too?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 04:33 PM (llON8)

493 To be fair to the Russians - it was the "new" Russia, and they did decline the slaves as payment.

I thought that some North Koreans did end up working in timber camps in the Russian Far East, but it wasn't 100,000.

Posted by: The Kims! at August 17, 2022 04:34 PM (I2/tG)

494 I saw Cricket Flour and Other Insects open for Disturbed at Miami Ampetheater 2002

Posted by: Commentor What Got a Shrit at August 17, 2022 04:34 PM (kkKmS)

495 462 We need Trump just so some of them die of traumatic foot stomping.

Posted by: DaveA at August 17, 2022 04:27 PM (FhXTo)

----------

I want to see him lead a National Strike so we can watch the blue shitholes starve & burn. Let's get this thing on ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 17, 2022 04:34 PM (u4gGm)

496 HA HA!
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
__

Heh, gave me a chuckle also.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 17, 2022 04:34 PM (BqFQD)

497 Awww, I lost the DiceA hash.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 17, 2022 04:35 PM (HJDAV)

498 nfluencing pays better.
Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 04:32 PM (e+yf1)

I'm sure it does. Having grown up without the internet I don't understand the whole influencer thing, but I imagine it can be a big thing or was before inflation hit.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 17, 2022 04:35 PM (wvo9L)

499 >>>Yes; because everybody who models golfing attire is a professional golfer. How did the women golfers survive before they did boob shots?. Just, you know, play darn good golf?.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke


There are a lot of pretty, talented female golfers in the LPGA now. Many of them are Asian, but the ladies are a lot better looking than before. A lot better golfers, too.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 17, 2022 04:35 PM (XSRBF)

500
I thought that some North Koreans did end up working in timber camps in the Russian Far East, but it wasn't 100,000.
Posted by: The Kims! at August 17, 2022 04:34 PM (I2/tG)

Yeah, it's Russians we're talking about. I wouldn't put it past them to publicly decline a slave trade, and then quietly say (well, we'll take the 5,000 well-fed ones in exchange for this Faberge egg).

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2022 04:36 PM (IXpV7)

501 When he was still governor he succumbed too quickly and backpedaled on the Defense of Marriage legislation. That's when he lost me so I was never a fan of him as VP.
Posted by: Ciampino - another lamppost? at August 17, 2022 04:31 PM (qfLjt)


But Kristi Noam will be totally fine! If you criticize her you are using a purity test! Buy an Electric Vehicle!

Posted by: Electric Vehicle Guy at August 17, 2022 04:36 PM (xttsV)

502 No one plays 'darn good golf'- we all suck at it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 17, 2022 04:36 PM (HJDAV)

503 Shit

*throws next week's rant into the trash*

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 17, 2022 04:36 PM (5p7BC)

504 How did the women golfers survive before they did boob shots?. Just, you know, play darn good golf?.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke


Not really.

Women don't like watching women's sports, so there's not much money it. (This of course is the fault of men. Somehow.)

Men prefer to watch men's sports, and a little of the women's version if it has boobs.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 04:36 PM (e+yf1)

505 >>>Yeah he's almost gleeful with any bad news about Oz. It's getting old and annoying

Is Posobiec the one who reported Oz saying he has 2 houses, when he really has 12? Because that's big liberal fodder today.

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 17, 2022 04:36 PM (tQL7r)

506 I saw Cricket vs King Biscuit in the Battle of the Flour Power Hour.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 17, 2022 04:36 PM (4I/2K)

507 474 First Starbucks to unionize in California on strike in Santa Cruz
______________________

Where will the junkies shoot up?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 17, 2022 04:36 PM (lf83v)

508 If Brennan himself authored a coup document, and all those complicit put their "John Hancocks" in blood, the leftiest-lefts of the left STILL would not believe it.

Posted by: Coki at August 17, 2022 04:37 PM (G7Avm)

509 The story of Chick Donohue and the greatest beer run ever.

https://tinyurl.com/3ttvtjha

Posted by: BruceWayne at August 17, 2022 04:37 PM (MGB5H)

510
What does this (possibly fake) German word mean?

Flickenbeanen

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 17, 2022 04:37 PM (jmDe3)

511 Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 17, 2022 04:36 PM (HJDAV)

I don't. I don't play it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 17, 2022 04:37 PM (wvo9L)

512 There's a spot on my forehead that hurts a bit when I touch it. In going to stop touching it.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 17, 2022 04:38 PM (VdGjU)

513 Or she's the sucker who was voluntold to be the figurehead of what already existed.
Posted by:

You misspelled grifter.

Posted by: Golfman at August 17, 2022 04:38 PM (rhXTS)

514 Yes.

zerohedge @zerohedge
Toyota And World's Top Battery Maker Halt Factories In China Amid Drought-Induced Power Crisis

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 17, 2022 04:38 PM (yikp0)

515 When he was still governor he succumbed too quickly and backpedaled on the Defense of Marriage legislation. That's when he lost me so I was never a fan of him as VP.
Posted by: Ciampino - another lamppost? at August 17, 2022 04:31 PM (qfLjt)
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He did the same thing with the Freedom of Religion bill.

Caused me to call him "lawnchair". And I really didn't think much of him, but Trump threw enough praise his way that I started to think he had changed.

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 04:38 PM (krQz2)

516 Is Posobiec the one who reported Oz saying he has 2 houses, when he really has 12? Because that's big liberal fodder today.
Posted by: Prime Sister at August 17, 2022 04:36 PM (tQL7r)

How many houses do Obama, Biden, Pelosi, or Sanders- all 'friends of the common man'- have?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 17, 2022 04:38 PM (HJDAV)

517 First Starbucks to unionize in California on strike in Santa Cruz

Hilarious.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 17, 2022 04:38 PM (ZGrMX)

518
Flickenbeanen
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 17, 2022 04:37 PM (jmDe3)

Female masturbation.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2022 04:38 PM (IXpV7)

519 What would really be funny is if some Microsoft (or any other tech company) employees call out their execs the next time they hold a all-company meeting and blab out the usual invocation "My Name Is FullName and I'm Wearing TheseDeisgnerClothes And I Am ThisGroup And I Want To Acknowledge This Land Was Owned by TheseTribes (But I Don't Want To Pay Any Rent)".

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 04:38 PM (llON8)

520 I don't. I don't play it.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 17, 2022 04:37 PM (wvo9L)

Easiest way to quit.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 17, 2022 04:38 PM (HJDAV)

521 There's a spot on my forehead that hurts a bit when I touch it. In going to stop touching it.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 17, 2022 04:38 PM (VdGjU)

Yer gonna die!

Posted by: WEB MD at August 17, 2022 04:39 PM (4I/2K)

522 No one plays 'darn good golf'- we all suck at it.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 17, 2022 04:36 PM (HJDAV)

Speak for yourself.

Posted by: Golfman at August 17, 2022 04:39 PM (rhXTS)

523 because everybody who models golfing attire is a professional golfer. How did the women golfers survive before they did boob shots?. Just, you know, play darn good golf?.
==
So agree. "Because every good professional female golfer has to look like a troll".

Posted by: Lydia Ko at August 17, 2022 04:39 PM (qSxH2)

524 "Hillary Clinton has been lobbying the DOJ hard to raid Trump's home and seize his documents for months now."


The Clinton's weaponized Law Enforcement Acronymns when they were in office and LE has been snow balling ever since.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/
the-sharyl-attkisson-podcast/id1478351211

https://apple.co/3Ao0Lub

Posted by: Braenyard, _ want nuremberg trials? badger your congressman at August 17, 2022 04:39 PM (AxHiq)

525 >>>No-one likes Barnes' theories more than Barnes.
Posted by: quantum mechanic


I take your point. But that doesn't mean he's wrong. He's actually been right about stuff.

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 17, 2022 04:40 PM (tQL7r)

526 Crist has a chance of winning again in Florida minus major cheating?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 17, 2022 04:40 PM (wvo9L)

527 Yeah, it's Russians we're talking about. I wouldn't put it past them to publicly decline a slave trade, and then quietly say (well, we'll take the 5,000 well-fed ones in exchange for this Faberge egg).

The workers are also Korean.

Russia is terrified of letting Chinese into Siberia for obvious reasons (there are more Chinese just in Manchuria than the whole population of the Russian Federation), but Koreans and Vietnamese are not viewed as threatening.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 17, 2022 04:40 PM (I2/tG)

528 To be honest, even if I hit the lotto or got rich by other means, I am too ocd to want to have multiple houses. I'd spend most of the time at one wondering if I had locked the front door of one of the others, or left the garage door open, or left a stove burner on, etc.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 17, 2022 04:40 PM (HJDAV)

529 Eyepatch McCain??? For Shame Ace. Making fun of someone only days after their funeral has ended.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 17, 2022 04:40 PM (Wjl3P)

530 There's a spot on my forehead that hurts a bit when I touch it. In going to stop touching it.
______________________

You need to get a better quality prayer rug.

Posted by: Hadi Matar, Chatauqua NY County Jail at August 17, 2022 04:41 PM (lf83v)

531 Am I the only one who has David French full spread in a prostate ad on the front page?

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at August 17, 2022 04:41 PM (QYPq3)

532 256 >>Friend of mine had a bear break into his rural cabin and shit all over the floors.

Not all tautologies are equal.

Posted by: garrett at August 17, 2022 03:59 PM (IDNOW)
----
Did the bear use Charmin or some other inferior brand?

Posted by: Ciampino - don't squeeze it at August 17, 2022 04:41 PM (qfLjt)

533 Posted by: Lydia Ko at August 17, 2022 04:39 PM (qSxH2)

Not what I said. Just cannot be impressed by women who need to do boob shots in order to make a living at professional golf

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 17, 2022 04:41 PM (wvo9L)

534 521 There's a spot on my forehead that hurts a bit when I touch it. In going to stop touching it.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 17, 2022 04:38 PM (VdGjU)

Yer gonna die!
Posted by: WEB MD at August 17, 2022 04:39 PM (4I/2K)

Tertiary syphilis!
-mayo clinic

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 17, 2022 04:41 PM (HJDAV)

535 Neo-Neocon (The New Neo) is an excellent site, BTW. I like their commenters.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 17, 2022 04:41 PM (OB+je)

536 The workers are also Korean.

Russia is terrified of letting Chinese into Siberia for obvious reasons (there are more Chinese just in Manchuria than the whole population of the Russian Federation), but Koreans and Vietnamese are not viewed as threatening.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 17, 2022 04:40 PM (I2/tG)

When you've got a problem with Muslims, invite Poles. When you've got a problem with the Chinese, invite Vietnamese.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 17, 2022 04:41 PM (b2nrj)

537 How many houses do Obama, Biden, Pelosi, or Sanders- all 'friends of the common man'- have?
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 17, 2022 04:38 PM (HJDAV

FFS. McCain couldn't even count his.

Posted by: Golfman at August 17, 2022 04:41 PM (rhXTS)

538 even if I hit the lotto or got rich by other means, I am too ocd to want to have multiple houses. I'd spend most of the time at one wondering if I had locked the front door of one of the others, or left the garage door open, or left a stove burner on, etc.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop
==
That's what Alfred is for . . .

Posted by: Lego Batman at August 17, 2022 04:42 PM (I/jDZ)

539 She seems to spend more time as a "influencer" however.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Influencing pays better.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 04:32 PM (e+yf1)

Doing some Only Fans research - for real - and some of those chicks clear $100K a month or more. Most, enough to support a daily latte habit.

https://quantummarketer.com/

onlyfans-statistics/

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 04:42 PM (yHsuS)

540 Mean tweet alert!

Donald Trump Jr.@DonaldJTrumpJr
Bye bye @Liz_Cheney. On the bright side at least you won’t have to pretend to be from Wyoming anymore.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 17, 2022 04:42 PM (FVME7)

541 >>>Am I the only one who has David French full spread in a prostate ad on the front page?

Posted by: In Reel Life

Gee I hope so!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 17, 2022 04:42 PM (XSRBF)

542 If you look closely at the newest boob models, well boob gap, you can see tiny little stamps stating, "Property of Dow Corning Corporation"

How much does silicone go for these days?

Posted by: Elmer and Bugs at August 17, 2022 04:42 PM (1DgE4)

543 Nood. Pence.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 17, 2022 04:42 PM (HJDAV)

544 Trump finally got his Time Magazine front cover

Posted by: Paul at August 17, 2022 04:42 PM (1mzvp)

545 NOOD

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 17, 2022 04:42 PM (XSRBF)

546 To be honest, even if I hit the lotto or got rich by other means, I am too ocd to want to have multiple houses. I'd spend most of the time at one wondering if I had locked the front door of one of the others, or left the garage door open, or left a stove burner on, etc.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 17, 2022 04:40 PM (HJDAV)
.
Not to mention keeping multiples pantries and garages organized alphabetically and equally. A nightmare!

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 17, 2022 04:42 PM (4I/2K)

547 I'm trying to figure out why we should give a flying fck about Poo Tin ahead of say, oh I don't know, the Wicked Evil Freakshow that wants to murder 98% of us.

Anecdata ... my Boomer dad. He was, at different times; a coke dealer, pool hustler, Union Democrat, Carpenter, bankruptcy filer, on and on. Always worked hard at whatever he did, even if it was against the law.

Suddenly, he's a Republican. And he absolutely HATES the Russians. He never fought against the Russians. He got in the National Guard to avoid 'Nam. But now, just before 70, he's found Patriotism.

Its a Boomer thing, for some Boomers. They grew up thinking they were part of a Cold War against the Russians. It defined them. They ain't gonna' let it go.

Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 04:42 PM (UdwG8)

548 Styxhexenhammer just pointed out that Trump would have Secret Service protection even if in jail. That's interesting.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 17, 2022 04:42 PM (9WSy4)

549 528

Heh. Me too. I might have a vacation home or two. But I never get the benefit of having all these houses all over the world where people spend a week or two at a time in each. All that effort? Eh. Get the nicest hotel room in the city when you are in town.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 17, 2022 04:42 PM (Wjl3P)

550 We're getting the full force of the nagging harangue today

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 17, 2022 04:43 PM (Qhnrt)

551 Nood Pence

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 17, 2022 04:43 PM (yHsuS)

552 >>>Tertiary syphilis!
-mayo clinic

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 17, 2022 04:41 PM (HJDAV)

It actually might be lupus, this time.

Posted by: House, MD at August 17, 2022 04:43 PM (QYPq3)

553 >>> 527
==
Russia is terrified of letting Chinese into Siberia for obvious reasons (there are more Chinese just in Manchuria than the whole population of the Russian Federation), but Koreans and Vietnamese are not viewed as threatening.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 17, 2022 04:40 PM (I2/tG)

Yeah, it's the fcking Russians I should be worried about. How many Chinese are in "Confucius Centers" all around the country, or working H1B jobs in our tech companies, or banging our so-called leaders? How many WEF members are openly serving in "our" government?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 04:43 PM (llON8)

554 I'd spend most of the time at one wondering if I had locked the front door of one of the others, or left the garage door open, or left a stove burner on, etc.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 17, 2022 04:40 PM (HJDAV)

More keys. More problems.

Posted by: Golfman at August 17, 2022 04:43 PM (rhXTS)

555 The Presidential Records Act (PRA) is different from the Federal Records Act (records Management by Federal Agencies). Mrs. Clinton was the Secretary of State, the head of an Executive Branch federal agency, when she had her troubles & that would have concerned statutes under the FRA.

When her husband and Al Gore were required to reconstruct many, many emails (Monica?) related to their Administration for National Archives, that was under the PRA such as the current Trump records allegations are.

Interesting, perhaps, is just very recently before all of this warrant and record search stuff took place, it was rumored some Executive branch Federal agencies had managers going office to office through years of records that should have been archived ages ago. Congress should certainly be able to question heads of cabinets and agencies if that's true.

Posted by: Lola at August 17, 2022 04:44 PM (NIYa7)

556 Lydia Ko at August 17, 2022 04:39 PM (qSxH2)

Not what I said. Just cannot be impressed by women who need to do boob shots in order to make a living at professional golf
==
I'm not impressed by good looking women either, even if they do whatever they do well. Bitches.

Posted by: Inbee Park at August 17, 2022 04:44 PM (4Jc5g)

557 432 oh, what I was getting at, regarding YEOMAN and PART-TIME WARRIORS, was my fear that this was going to become another LONGBOW thread.
Posted by: Chuy Libre at August 17, 2022 04:15 PM (B3oWe)
---
Would that make you a cross beau?

Posted by: Axeman at August 17, 2022 04:22 PM (krQz2)
----
Cross? That cabin-shitting bear was mad at not finding any Charmin TP.

Posted by: Ciampino -- don't squeeze it at August 17, 2022 04:45 PM (qfLjt)

558 Russia is terrified of letting Chinese into Siberia for obvious reasons
_________________

The Mongol Empire of the 13th and 14th centuries was the second largest contiguous land empire in history. It stretched from Japan to Hungary. There was no Russia and no Ukraine, only the Mongol Empire.

China has plans.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 17, 2022 04:45 PM (lf83v)

559 417 Who is Desantis dem opponent for Gov this year?
Posted by: Jonah at August 17, 2022 04:18

/////

Agriculture Department Commissioner "Nikki" Fried
She will lose big time. But DeSantis was first elected by a margin of 30,000 votes. 0.4% over latent scumbag Andrew Gillum.

What might have been...

Posted by: JM in Florida at August 17, 2022 04:46 PM (D6kib)

560 As has been noted, the simpler an explanation is the more plausible it is, to wit...

The Junta/Deep State/Uniparty regard Trump as illegitimate and will not be afforded the perk, privileges and deference typical of ex-Presidents.

He had documents they did not want him to have, and by G-d he will not have, so they emanitzied an excuse to get them.

This exercise also has other benefits that Trump remains under a cloud of "investigation" which allows them to keep mining and pursuing other avenues to, perhaps, land the Deep States White Whale/Emmanuel Goldstein.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 17, 2022 04:46 PM (WgimQ)

561 I take your point. But that doesn't mean he's wrong. He's actually been right about stuff.

Posted by: Prime Sister


So has Alex Jones. I talked about this a little more upthread.

I'm saying this as someone who got a little sucked into Barnes' orbit and then realized the guy is not all that he seems. Just a warning.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 17, 2022 04:46 PM (e+yf1)

562 But, Trump didn't make a copy of these documents so now that the Stasi has recovered them, no one will know anything.

Posted by: Seems Plausible at August 17, 2022 04:47 PM (fs1hN)

563 Disappeared thread is not fair.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at August 17, 2022 04:47 PM (QYPq3)

564 Uh oh. I think the nood got sucked into the void.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 17, 2022 04:47 PM (HJDAV)

565 Looks like the nood disappeared

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 17, 2022 04:47 PM (b2nrj)

566 Where did the nood go?

Posted by: kraken at August 17, 2022 04:47 PM (Vr12I)

567 It was there until it wasn't.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at August 17, 2022 04:47 PM (1DgE4)

568 Trump mentioned that their safe-cracker wasn't the same guy who installed it? I took that as a general "I'm on to you" but wasn't sure.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 17, 2022 04:47 PM (44ww/)

569 What happened to the NOOD???

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 17, 2022 04:48 PM (llON8)

570 558 Russia is terrified of letting Chinese into Siberia for obvious reasons
_________________

The Mongol Empire of the 13th and 14th centuries was the second largest contiguous land empire in history. It stretched from Japan to Hungary. There was no Russia and no Ukraine, only the Mongol Empire.

China has plans.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 17, 2022 04:45 PM (lf83v)

Second largest?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 17, 2022 04:48 PM (b2nrj)

571 Time Warps are confusing.

Posted by: kraken at August 17, 2022 04:48 PM (Vr12I)

572
Ace just nooked the nood?

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 17, 2022 04:48 PM (jmDe3)

573 I can't explain it. But I can see it.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat

*tee hee*
Posted by: Stan


Say it all the time, I'm not religious. I'm also not anti-religious. It "could" be an evil force.

But even if it is, it doesn't have to be supernatural. Most people have evil in them. Just give them power, then sit back and watch. It gets really good when they hit the C.S. Lewis Tyranny of the Well Intentioned.

Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 04:49 PM (UdwG8)

574 567 It was there until it wasn't.
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at August 17, 2022 04:47 PM (1DgE4)

DON'T YOU THINK I KNOW THAT!
-Commodore Decker

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 17, 2022 04:49 PM (HJDAV)

575 562 But, Trump didn't make a copy of these documents so now that the Stasi has recovered them, no one will know anything.
Posted by: Seems Plausible at August 17, 2022 04:47 PM (fs1hN)

What makes you think that?

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 17, 2022 04:49 PM (Qhnrt)

576 Houston we have a problem on the Nood.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 17, 2022 04:49 PM (Wjl3P)

577 Agriculture Department Commissioner "Nikki" Fried
She will lose big time. But DeSantis was first elected by a margin of 30,000 votes. 0.4% over latent scumbag Andrew Gillum.

What might have been...
Posted by: JM in Florida at August 17, 2022 04:46 PM (D6kib

It was that close due to shenanigans in Broward and Palm Beach counties. Rick Scott won by less than DeSantis did. And Fried won a contested election for Ag commissioner.

Posted by: Tofer732 at August 17, 2022 04:49 PM (imVto)

578 Nood must be with Trump's passports.

Posted by: olddog in mo, No Cheetos allowed on the 'toon at August 17, 2022 04:49 PM (ju2Fy)

579 Dana Loesch eviscerates Mike Pence for saying calls to defund the FBI 'are just as wrong a calls to defund the police'

https://tinyurl.com/33av8h5a

Posted by: redridinghood at August 17, 2022 04:49 PM (NpAcC)

580 No, it's up again

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 17, 2022 04:49 PM (yikp0)

581 RiP thread, so young and full of promise

Posted by: A dude in MI at August 17, 2022 04:50 PM (/6GbT)

582 But that doesn't explain this on a global level. Every white, western, English speaking country is going absolutely fucking out of their minds right now. We are. Canada is. UK is. New Zealand and Australia.

Because they're all run by WEF agents (New Zealand, Canada, possibly UK soon) or people who are WEF-adjacent (US, Australia).
Posted by: Ian S. at August 17, 2022 04:33 PM (ZGrMX)

And Soros is pushing 100. He's running out of time.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 17, 2022 04:50 PM (eoQWY)

583 Putin doesn’t want me dead. Biden does.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 17, 2022 04:50 PM (Wjl3P)

584 Schroedinger's post.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 17, 2022 04:50 PM (4I/2K)

585 We inadvertantly overcollected your nood.

You may have it back now.

Posted by: FBI at August 17, 2022 04:50 PM (mf6Cg)

586 We have a Code Blue Balls. Disappearing thread

Posted by: steevy at August 17, 2022 04:51 PM (NMHe5)

587 331 And it dodges the question: when has Russia/USSR EVER distributed 'humanitarian aid'?

all the time, comrade. distribution was from a special office in the basement of lubyanka.

Posted by: levrenti beria at August 17, 2022 04:51 PM (oY6Yp)

588 https://tinyurl.com/bdf7xshj
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That's your mom?
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Hiya Mrs. Monroe !

Posted by: JT at August 17, 2022 04:51 PM (T4tVD)

589 Yeah, it's the fcking Russians I should be worried about. How many Chinese are in "Confucius Centers" all around the country, or working H1B jobs in our tech companies, or banging our so-called leaders? How many WEF members are openly serving in "our" government?
____________

"Russia is our enemy, it has nukes pointed at us"

-says a friend who thinks since I prefer to negotiate a settlement to the war as soon as possible that I'm Putin's buddy.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 17, 2022 04:51 PM (fs1hN)

590
China is openly an enemy of the US, and a powerful one.

Russia is not.

I still don't give a shit about China. How can we deal with him before the Main Enemy? He's for later. The traitors in our midst are the first priority.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 17, 2022 04:52 PM (IXpV7)

591 Deepstate uniparty lies. So what? This is what, why not vote this coming November like Wyoming voted yesterday? Because the other 'option' is pretty ugly.

Posted by: Eromero at August 17, 2022 04:53 PM (0OP+5)

592 "Russia is our enemy, it has nukes pointed at us"

-says a friend who thinks since I prefer to negotiate a settlement to the war as soon as possible that I'm Putin's buddy.


I'd tell him "They've never launched one. Muslims have planes aimed at us every day. They've launched a few."

"China launched a bio-engineered virus at us. That we paid for."

Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 04:54 PM (UdwG8)

593 Suddenly, he's a Republican. And he absolutely HATES the Russians. He never fought against the Russians. He got in the National Guard to avoid 'Nam. But now, just before 70, he's found Patriotism.

Its a Boomer thing, for some Boomers. They grew up thinking they were part of a Cold War against the Russians. It defined them. They ain't gonna' let it go.
Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 04:42 PM (UdwG

Yes, a lot of the Russia Russia Russia calls from the uniparty is to woo us Cold Warriors -- but I remember that these same people called us mean and stuff for doing so. And Russia is not the USSR. Anyone who conflates the two needs some history lessons.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 17, 2022 04:55 PM (eoQWY)

594 Putin doesn’t want me dead. Biden does.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 17, 2022 04:50 PM (Wjl3P)


Another comment I've always used that doesn't seem as unpopular as it was ten years ago;

Who's most likely to shoot me ? The American Military, American Law Enforcement, or the Russian Military ?

Posted by: Rinse and Repeat at August 17, 2022 04:56 PM (UdwG8)

595 I'm making over $13k a month working part time. I kept hearing other people tell me how much money they can make online so I decided to look into it. Well, it was all true and has totally changed my life.
This is what I do... http://www.salarycash1.com

Posted by: Sarah at August 17, 2022 04:57 PM (xc/MV)

596 I'm making over $13k a month working part time. I kept hearing other people tell me how much money they can make online so I decided to look into it. Well, it was all true and has totally changed my life.
This is what I do... http://www.salarycash1.com
Posted by: Sarah
==
That's a lotta blowjobs. You should try modeling.

Posted by: Paige Spiranak at August 17, 2022 04:59 PM (W1Sp2)

597 575 562 But, Trump didn't make a copy of these documents so now that the Stasi has recovered them, no one will know anything.
Posted by: Seems Plausible at August 17, 2022 04:47 PM (fs1hN)

What makes you think that?
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacon
_______________________________

I suppose the FBI could be thinking that. But it is not impossible that copies don't exist in other locations. It could also be the FBI is actively hunting down whatever copies exist and may have grabbed them up from Guiliani or whomever.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 17, 2022 05:05 PM (fs1hN)

598 Dana Loesch@DLoesch
Excuse me? Buckle up.
The agency that tagged school board parents as "domestic terrorists?" That doctored emails, leaked to media, and otherwise weaponized authority for political targeting? "The attacks on the FBI must stop?" Pence thinks justifiable criticism is an attack?

-
Your attitude is being noticed, comrade.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy? at August 17, 2022 05:11 PM (FVME7)

599 Should we all reticle our computer files on top secret Nuclear attack plans?

Posted by: Goatweed at August 17, 2022 06:33 PM (0Q/6W)

600 I just don't buy that the document raids are "all about Russiagate". The public at large does not care about Russiagate and no one will ever be convicted of any crimes arising from it. Especially not the individuals who orchestrated the conspiracy.

This is about something else. Something darker and more sinister that scares the living shit out of some very powerful people in Washington.

I'm thinking Donald Trump has the Epstein client list and tapes and is using them as leverage.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at August 17, 2022 06:54 PM (ReZ0q)

601 This whole post is stupid - Ace needs much better information sources.

Posted by: Easter Lemming at August 18, 2022 11:42 AM (l7mH3)

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