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They could have taken what they wanted. So this story -- We had to act fast, we knew where the documents were! -- seems shaky. There seems to have been an orderly and amiable process in place to vet and return the documents:In February, Archivist David Ferriero testified before Congress that his agency began talking with Trump's people right after they left office and that the Trump camp had already returned 15 boxes of documents to the Archives. Ferriero said that in those materials, the Archives discovered items "marked as classified national security information," unleashing further inquiries as to whether Trump continued to possess classified material. The basic outlines of the facts surrounding this timeline have been confirmed by the former president. He has previously said that he was returning any official records to the Archives, labeling any confusion in the matter as "an ordinary and routine process to ensure the preservation of my legacy and in accordance with the Presidential Records Act." He also claimed the Archives "did not 'find' anything" in what he had already been returned, suggesting that there was nothing sensitive. He said the documents had inadvertently shipped to Florida during the six-hour transition period in which his belongings were moved. According to the Justice Department source, the Archives saw things differently, believing that the former White House was stonewalling and continued to possess unauthorized material. Earlier this year, they asked the Justice Department to investigate.So you... raid a president's home for the first time in American history?! Sexton points out that this cover story about having to act fast based on this tip omits the detail about everyone already knowing where all the documents were stored: The story points to the FBI's focus on a few specific areas as proof they knew where to look. But curiously this story doesn’t mention the June meeting between investigators and Trump's lawyers when they looked through some of the documents kept in a basement storage room. In other words, the DOJ didn't need a secret source to know the documents were kept in that particular room because they'd seen them there themselves and, at the time, not taken them. And adding to its shakiness is the fact that, according to this story, Merrick Garland is claiming he wasn't in the loop on this. But Criminal Wray was. In the past week, the prosecutor in the case and local Assistant U.S. Attorney went to Florida magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart in West Palm Beach to seek approval for the search of Donald Trump's private residence. The affidavit to obtain the search warrant, the intelligence source says, contained abundant and persuasive detail that Trump continued to possess the relevant records in violation of federal law, and that investigators had sufficient information to prove that those records were located at Mar-a-Lago--including the detail that they were contained in a specific safe in a specific room. We have a hot tip, we have a hot tip! You know those sensitive records we're working with Trump to get back...? Well get this: They're in the room we already know he's keeping them in. But wait -- specifically, he keeps some of the most sensitive ones... in his safe. A SAFE, huh?! Who'd've thunk it?! I KNOW, right?!! That's some top-grade Direct-From-Danchenko Steele-Level Russian-Sourced intel, huh? NOW LET'S RAID THE PRESIDENT'S FUCKING PERSONAL RESIDENCE BASED ON THIS INCREDIBLE HUMINT!!!You mean: Like Hillary Clinton continued to possess classified US intelligence on her servers, until she defied government demands for those emails and used BleachBit to destroy them? I don't remember any raids being ordered to recover those emails. I remember her being allowed to keep the emails as long as she liked, and then to destroy them, without any consequences. This sounds like the faked-up FISA warrant again. People knew where these documents were already-- but the warrant is written breathlessly, hiding from the Epstein Lawyer Magistrate that this information was not new but already well-known. ... The senior Justice Department source says that Garland was regularly briefed on the Records Act investigation, and that he knew about the grand jury and what material federal prosecutors were seeking. He insists, though, that Garland had no prior knowledge of the date and time of the specific raid, nor was he asked to approve it. "I know it's hard for people to believe," says the official, "but this was a matter for the U.S. Attorney and the FBI." FBI director Christopher Wray ultimately gave his go-ahead to conduct the raid, the senior Justice official says. "It really is a case of the Bureau misreading the impact."Disband. Impeach. Defund his pension. Sexton has another story, which, again, somehow the Always Online AllahPundit failed to claim for his own -- even CNN's legal analyst says that the DOJ and FBI will have to offer compelling explanations as to why this extraordinarily invasive measure was chosen, instead of far less invasive measures, such as... simply continuing to work with Trump to get the documents back.
Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsXQ) at August 10, 2022 04:33 PM (WhsXQ) 2
Yeah, yeah.. that's the ticket. Garland didn't know nuffin.
Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at August 10, 2022 04:33 PM (QYPq3) 3
So the story of 3 DOJ lawyers there was a fake ?
Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 04:33 PM (bs+z0) 4
Yoot !
Posted by: JT at August 10, 2022 04:34 PM (T4tVD) 5
Hiya
Posted by: JT at August 10, 2022 04:34 PM (T4tVD) 6
Insurance, baby!
Posted by: Peter Strzok at August 10, 2022 04:34 PM (AD14M) 7
Here’s the horse shit. Where’s the pony?
Posted by: Holy Crap at August 10, 2022 04:34 PM (glGDV) 8
*sips his afternoon beer*
Posted by: Walter Freeman at August 10, 2022 04:35 PM (bM7vb) 9
So the story of 3 DOJ lawyers there was a fake ?
Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 04:33 PM (bs+z0) Probably not. They're just going to deny it. Posted by: Jordan61 at August 10, 2022 04:35 PM (DRSnL) 10
Are they shacked up in Wray’s chalet?
Posted by: Holy Crap at August 10, 2022 04:35 PM (glGDV) 11
So it was necessary to go through Melania's closet ? bet they were trying on the clothes... The females too...
Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 04:35 PM (bs+z0) 12
The same Christopher Wray that Trump put in power, despite everyone around him saying he was a Deep State stooge.
But we were promised he would only hire the best. Posted by: Hylian at August 10, 2022 04:35 PM (YsTC1) 13
Garland: I know nothing, I see nothing, I hear nothing.
Posted by: dantesed at August 10, 2022 04:36 PM (HyroA) 14
Did they bring lube?
Posted by: Holy Crap at August 10, 2022 04:36 PM (glGDV) Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 04:36 PM (LvTSG) Posted by: Viso Latte at August 10, 2022 04:36 PM (681h8) 17
DOJ Source Calls Trump Raid a "Spectacular Backfire;" DOJ Distances Itself from Raid, Claiming Merrick Garland Never Signed Off On It
WELL WELL WELL WELL WELL YOU COULD KNOCK ME OVAH WITH A FEATHUH, SUH Posted by: DB at August 10, 2022 04:37 PM (geLO8) 18
Merrick Garland: "I know nothing!"
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 04:37 PM (ptqGC) 19
It’s going to be a great deposition.
Posted by: Holy Crap at August 10, 2022 04:37 PM (glGDV) 20
I'm just gonna keep pissing on your back and tell you it's raining.
Posted by: Merrick Garland at August 10, 2022 04:37 PM (NgqoH) 21
And Wray *just happened* to be on vacation when it took place.
Has he said anything about the raid yet? Posted by: junior at August 10, 2022 04:37 PM (l3Ott) 22
14 The same Christopher Wray that Trump put in power, despite everyone around him saying he was a Deep State stooge.
That McConnell forced on him after he nixed all Trump's choices ? Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 04:37 PM (bs+z0) 23
oh yeah, and TOTAL bullshit that garland didn't know.
Wray is dirtier than that girl you made out within high school, but there's no way that Garland, Biden, and the whole lot didn't bloody know this was happening... Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsXQ) at August 10, 2022 04:37 PM (WhsXQ) 24
Holy crud. I'm really starting to believe the safe was empty and their tipster was Donaldo Jose Trumpino.
What an absolute punching animal fuck show. Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 04:37 PM (/ytlY) 25
It's like Lord of the Flies.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 10, 2022 04:37 PM (W/9Bb) Posted by: Simple Stevo at August 10, 2022 04:38 PM (xvFjy) 27
How can this be? All the smart blue checks said it was a triumphant operation.
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 04:38 PM (OalnH) 28
>>>F*cktwit Allahpundit is out at Hot Air.
Bet Morrissey is on borrowed time now. Posted by: Viso Latte at August 10, 2022 04:36 PM (681h New COB! Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at August 10, 2022 04:38 PM (QYPq3) 29
I read somewhere that the FIB had a key to the location but lost it ??
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 10, 2022 04:38 PM (S+j2h) 30
On what page is Melania’s laundry, Agent?
Posted by: Holy Crap at August 10, 2022 04:38 PM (glGDV) 31
Well, I guessed from their silence this was either an epic rake step or because they wanted to provoke something.
Guess it was the rake. Now comes the finger pointing. And lawsuits, I hope. Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 04:38 PM (mZ3xv) 32
Hope the FiBs grabbed a few handfuls of Melania's panties to make their trip worthwhile.
Nine hours in the house. Nine. Hours. Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 04:38 PM (ptqGC) 33
Whenever they try to do something to get Trump, they are required by their pitiful base to take it up to eleven or it doesn't count and the
Posted by: huerfano at August 10, 2022 04:38 PM (dTFZY) 34
I was starting to think something was up when there wasn't any leaks
Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 04:38 PM (bs+z0) 35
It was obvious when they started pointing fingers at each other. They just shot themselves in the head.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 10, 2022 04:38 PM (lTGtQ) 36
It seems that when something like this happens you'll be correct more often if you assume the officials are stupid instead of sinister.
Posted by: Mark1971 at August 10, 2022 04:39 PM (xPl2J) 37
@18 Bet Morrissey is on borrowed time now.
---- Morrissey puts up a wide range of links at Instapundit. I doubt he's going anywhere anytime soon. Posted by: junior at August 10, 2022 04:39 PM (l3Ott) 38
"the local US Attorney for, I think, the Southern District of Florida" or, as we call him, "the designated fall guy."
Posted by: Alex Acosta at August 10, 2022 04:39 PM (7B5FA) 39
The Trump Curse.
It is real. Posted by: nurse ratched at August 10, 2022 04:33 PM (TimYP) It seems so Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 10, 2022 04:39 PM (S+j2h) 40
Holy crud. I'm really starting to believe the safe was empty and their tipster was Donaldo Jose Trumpino.
What an absolute punching animal fuck show. Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 04:37 PM (/ytlY) via Geraldo... Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsXQ) at August 10, 2022 04:39 PM (WhsXQ) Posted by: Eeyore at August 10, 2022 04:39 PM (TgBWG) 42
It was probably some rogue employees in the Cincinnati office.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 10, 2022 04:39 PM (lTGtQ) 43
Whaddaya mean the video was on?
Posted by: Holy Crap at August 10, 2022 04:39 PM (glGDV) 44
"Why aren't they taking credit for the greatest victory against fascism in history?!"
-Leftist Twitter, right now, probably Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 04:39 PM (LvTSG) 45
Abolish The FBI.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 10, 2022 04:39 PM (2CExO) 46
Garland does his Sgt. Schulz impression: "I know nothing! I see nothing! I hear nothing!"
That's how you KNOW the Reds are running scared. Everybody is laying off blame on somebody else. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 04:39 PM (pxTb/) 47
Lie harder, commies.
Posted by: micky at August 10, 2022 04:40 PM (3byMq) Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 04:40 PM (OalnH) 49
40 @18 Bet Morrissey is on borrowed time now.
---- Morrissey puts up a wide range of links at Instapundit. I doubt he's going anywhere anytime soon. Posted by: junior at August 10, 2022 04:39 PM (l3Ott) ========= Not everyone with the first name Ed is the same person. Some are different. Ed Driscoll and Ed Morrisey are such an example. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 04:40 PM (LvTSG) 50
"the local US Attorney for, I think, the Southern District of Florida" or, as we call him, "the designated fall guy."
Posted by: Alex Acosta at August 10, 2022 04:39 PM (7B5FA) how long until he sings? no way i'm ruining my career for some asshole's from DC. Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsXQ) at August 10, 2022 04:40 PM (WhsXQ) Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 10, 2022 04:40 PM (m7R0k) Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 10, 2022 04:40 PM (ufFY8) 53
"the local US Attorney for, I think, the Southern District of Florida" or, as we call him, "the designated fall guy."
Posted by: Alex Acosta at August 10, 2022 04:39 PM (7B5FA) ________________ "No, actually it was the janitor in the US Attorney's office who authorized the RAID." Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 04:41 PM (pxTb/) 54
Nine hours in the house. Nine. Hours.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 04:38 PM (ptqGC) Those panties aren't going to sniff themselves. Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 10, 2022 04:41 PM (W/9Bb) 55
Prediction: not one person will as much as lose a pension over this
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 04:41 PM (OalnH) 56
On to content after checking in
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2022 04:41 PM (k8B25) 57
Great!
I give this effffbee eye fuckup and illegality ,,, 🤡🤡🤡 Three clowns. And the the blowback has not even started yet! Posted by: runner at August 10, 2022 04:41 PM (2igD3) 58
Teflon Don
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 04:41 PM (mZ3xv) 59
56 "No, actually it was the janitor in the US Attorney's office who authorized the RAID."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 04:41 PM (pxTb/) ========= "Calling it a raid is misinformation, and you are banned from Twitter." Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 04:41 PM (LvTSG) 60
@52 Not everyone with the first name Ed is the same person. Some are different.
Ed Driscoll and Ed Morrisey are such an example. ---- Doh. My bad. You're right. Got confused since both of them tend to draw a lot of fire. Posted by: junior at August 10, 2022 04:41 PM (l3Ott) 61
Not gonna hold my breath that anything happens to them.
We're now a nation of men, not laws, and those guys are pretty much untouchable at this point. Would like to believe that this 'red wave' will change my view, but just don't see it happening. But the Lord works in mysterious ways, so who knows. Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 10, 2022 04:41 PM (E6Dy9) 62
via Geraldo...
Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsXQ) at August 10, 2022 04:39 PM (WhsXQ) It:s not impossible!! Has Geraldo Rivera really brought down the Republic?! Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 04:41 PM (9hBHf) 63
-Leftist Twitter, right now, probably
Nope, they're currently enraptured with "Trump pled the Fifth, which means we can execute him tomorrow". Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2022 04:41 PM (ZGrMX) Posted by: Archer at August 10, 2022 04:41 PM (gmo/4) 65
From two days ago:
@MeghanMcCain This better be legit - or you're making him a martyr and just handing him 2024 on a silver platter. ------------- She's going to be binge-eating and drinking come November. It will be fabulous. Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 04:41 PM (ptqGC) 66
Disband. Impeach. Defund his pension.
________ No, hang him. Posted by: Eeyore at August 10, 2022 04:39 PM (TgBWG) BURN SCATTER SALT It's not JUST for buildings... Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsXQ) at August 10, 2022 04:41 PM (WhsXQ) 67
Yeah I have commented on this a few times:
It appears that Trump had documents that the Biden Administration did not want him to have, documents he took while president and declassified so that he could have them. Even if he had not declassified them, former presidents have IMMENSE security clearance anyway, and almost nothing is prohibited them. The Biden team just wanted them, because they wanted them. Probably they have info that is embarrassing, damaging, or troubling for the Deep State... or that exonerate Trump on some desired charge. So they went by said Trump shouldnt have them but did not take them. My guess is that there was a back and forth between Trump and the FBI them demanding papers and him saying "nah, I can keep these" and finally some nutjob in the feebs pulled the trigger because they were frustrated with being denied. And now they look like nutjobs to most of the country. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 04:41 PM (Ivdso) 68
Merritless Garland needs to resign post-haste as an: Incompetent Fuckwit.
Posted by: Axeman at August 10, 2022 04:41 PM (krQz2) 69
I am going to guess that bit about Garland not being informed is a lie.
NFW the FBI decides to just serve a warrant on a former President and doesn't even bother to tell anyone. How dumb do they think we are to buy such crap? But don't worry, new mandatory training modules are under development. Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2022 04:41 PM (6TxNR) Posted by: Flyover at August 10, 2022 04:42 PM (Rbu5d) 71
TheRickWilson
It was a beautiful raid. A perfect raid. People tell me they've never seen such as perfect raid. Such a loser asshole. Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 10, 2022 04:42 PM (m7R0k) 72
68 She's going to be binge-eating and drinking come November. It will be fabulous.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 04:41 PM (ptqGC) ========== Going to be? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 04:42 PM (LvTSG) 73
Top. Men.
Posted by: Archer at August 10, 2022 04:42 PM (gmo/4) 74
That McConnell forced on him after he nixed all Trump's choices ?
Posted by: It's me donna ++ I have an idea, why don't we nominate Mitch McConnell for 2024? He gets what he wants anyway, Trump will never have the balls to tell him no. There's worse things then just not having an FBI Director, even if he was McConnells pick, just refuse to promote him. Posted by: Hylian at August 10, 2022 04:42 PM (YsTC1) 75
The BP agents who "whipped" the Haitians will get more punishment.
Posted by: Mark1971 at August 10, 2022 04:42 PM (xPl2J) 76
The Gallows need to be positioned to the front and on either side of the Inauguration Stage, at the Capital Steps.
First document Trump signs after taking his hand off of the Bible, right then and there, is the Orders of Execution, and then the Gallows get busy. Garland, Wray, Strozk, Paige, Clinesmith.. the list can go on quite a ways, I think? I'd add Milley, even though his offenses weren't directly involved with Russiagate and it's various tentacles. Hillary is a different matter. Tough choice, but I'd spare her for various reasons. I would though, sentence her to a very strict exile, never again to leave the City Limits of Hope, Arkansas, for the remainder of her miserable life. I learned my cruelty from Ace, the Master. Hope it'll be up to VDH's standards? Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at August 10, 2022 04:42 PM (tkOps) Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2022 04:42 PM (1jxCA) 78
Prediction: not one person will as much as lose a pension over this
Posted by: Joe Xiden ___ Yeah, don't see it happening either. Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 10, 2022 04:42 PM (MVxcn) 79
So you... raid a president's home for the first time in American history?!
** Another moron called it: Sealed warrant. Find illegal stuff. Write it on warrant later. Posted by: Moron Robbie - Norway only has EVs because the government has guns at August 10, 2022 04:42 PM (ulgTA) 80
I'm going to make a way out prediction - the "secret" source that knew exactly where the documents were will turn out to be one of the people invited into inspect the boxes in June.
In other words, they could have, no muss no fuss, taken what they wanted in June. But a decision was made not to. later, someone on the tour, felt like MORE document's should have been taken. And it may just be someone said, casually, after the June inspection, that the president might just burn what is left. Like what you do with a bunch of stuff you don't care about. And somehow, through the magic of whistleblowers, FBI incompetence, etc. this turned into an armed raid of the ex-president's residence. And naturally this will all be covered up, and no one demoted our punished for this stupidity, and no one will be responsible. Posted by: Inspector Kemp at August 10, 2022 04:42 PM (+DS2f) 81
32 I read somewhere that the FIB had a key to the location but lost it ??
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 10, 2022 04:38 PM (S+j2h) The rumor(?) is that they had padlocked some stuff and then lost the key. Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 10, 2022 04:42 PM (b2nrj) 82
The senior Justice Department source says that Garland was regularly briefed on the Records Act investigation, and that he knew about the grand jury and what material federal prosecutors were seeking. He insists, though, that Garland had no prior knowledge of the date and time of the specific raid, nor was he asked to approve it. "I know it's hard for people to believe," says the official, "but this was a matter for the U.S. Attorney and the FBI."
FBI director Christopher Wray ultimately gave his go-ahead to conduct the raid, the senior Justice official says. "It really is a case of the Bureau misreading the impact." ++++ 1. I don't believe that Garland had no idea, but whatever. That's the story and they'll be sticking to it. 2. "It really is a case of the Bureau misreading the impact?" Seriously? *That* is what you learned from this? That next time it should be *marketed* better? Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 04:42 PM (WWh8n) 83
Sorry. I wrote that wrong. Correction:
Another moron called it: Sealed warrant. PLANT illegal stuff. Write it on warrant later. Posted by: Moron Robbie - Norway only has EVs because the government has guns at August 10, 2022 04:43 PM (ulgTA) 84
I think I noted the raid seemed like it was kicked off by some FBI mid-level functionary without upper management approval. The FBI's "ducks were not in a row."
Major fuck-up. Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 10, 2022 04:43 PM (BFigT) 85
"FBI will have to offer compelling explanations as to why this extraordinarily invasive measure was chosen."
It's not every day you can try on underwear recently worn by a supermodel!! Posted by: FBI at August 10, 2022 04:43 PM (vN+oL) 86
Wray is dirtier than that girl you made out within high school
— You know Michelle too? Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 04:40 PM (OalnH) and her bestie, Brandie the "ie" is the give away... Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsXQ) at August 10, 2022 04:43 PM (WhsXQ) 87
Nobody knew except some south Florida peeons. Right?
Posted by: USNtakim deplorable, now with ultra maga at August 10, 2022 04:43 PM (Xllcm) 88
The "tip" told them to ransack Melania's underwear? Sure they did, Jan.
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 04:43 PM (ejSoJ) 89
You ask for an electoral miracle, I give you the EFF BEE EYE.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 04:43 PM (mZ3xv) 90
So these clowns threw in the trash 200 plus years of precedent to raid the democrats' political opponent, ransack his house, based on a false report, signed of on by Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer who the democrats got assigned as a half judge.
And yet they expect a paycheck and a pension. Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 10, 2022 04:43 PM (lTGtQ) 91
And got a call from Obama's Iranian handler...
It probably sounded a lot like Hitler's rant right after he sent almost everyone out of the room. Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2022 04:43 PM (ZGrMX) 92
71 Merritless Garland needs to resign post-haste as an: Incompetent Fuckwit.
Posted by: Axeman at August 10, 2022 04:41 PM (krQz2) I'll take 'things that will never happen' for $500, Alec. Posted by: Heavy Meta at August 10, 2022 04:43 PM (NgqoH) 93
It was all great when the media was celebrating the triumph of the end of Trump . Garland was pleased as punch.. The actual legal scholars and the folks starting saying not such a good thing... As a matter of fact it was atrocious now Garland says he knows nothing about it...
Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 04:43 PM (bs+z0) 94
Going to be?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 04:42 PM (LvTSG) More than usual. And Ben will be joining her. She claims he's as NeverTrump as she is. Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 04:43 PM (ptqGC) 95
@MeghanMcCain
This better be legit - or you're making him a martyr and just handing him 2024 on a silver platter. ------------- She's going to be binge-eating and drinking come November. It will be fabulous. Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 04:41 PM (ptqGC) Roll her off to the popping room Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 10, 2022 04:43 PM (S+j2h) 96
Sexton has another story, which, again, somehow the Always Online AllahPundit failed to claim for his own -- even CNN's legal analyst says that the DOJ and FBI will have to offer compelling explanations as to why this extraordinarily invasive measure was chosen, instead of far less invasive measures, such as... simply continuing to work with Trump to get the documents back.
++++ I'm gradually entering the "there is a specific document they really need to get back so they can reclassify and bury it" camp. I'm not there yet, but it does seem to be something that fits. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 04:43 PM (WWh8n) 97
All Eds are in fact the same person, like a very complex version of Voltron.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 10, 2022 04:43 PM (ppBhU) 98
Also, the "documents" story is just a McGuffin. Something for us to argue about, should he have had them, was he allowed to have them, did he have them?
Doesn't matter. They were going to raid - there, I said it - Mar a Lago when he wasn't present. Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2022 04:43 PM (6TxNR) 99
>>>She's going to be binge-eating and drinking come November. It will be fabulous.
Posted by: Jane D'oh Did she have other plans, or...? Posted by: ace at August 10, 2022 04:43 PM (B3oWe) 100
Little Merri Garland saw the polls, evidently.
And got a call from Obama's Iranian handler... Posted by: Flyover +++ Every "fringe" Republican just got a big boost to their campaign. Suddenly Trump saying 2020 was "rigged" is a very plausible position after a former President gets their home raided by the FBI because a librarian wants some silly file back. Posted by: Hylian at August 10, 2022 04:43 PM (YsTC1) Posted by: Bruce at August 10, 2022 04:43 PM (vd8XM) 102
Nine hours in the house. Nine. Hours.
Remember the Christmas Day Muslim massacre where they killed a bunch of people at an office party for the crime of being Christians? And how the FBI gave their home a ten minute once-over then turned the place over to the press to open house it? Priorities. But 9 hours sounds like the "gathering these documents" was used as a pretext for "we'll find something, dammit!" illegal search and seizure festival. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 04:43 PM (Ivdso) 103
35...Nine hours in the house. Nine. Hours.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 04:38 PM (ptqGC) They took time out for cocktails on the veranda, and some luncheon by the pool. Posted by: Flyover at August 10, 2022 04:44 PM (Rbu5d) 104
I wonder, is this an attempt to protect garland, or to stab him in the back.?
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 10, 2022 04:44 PM (c8F31) 105
This is like the Keystone Cops, if the Keystone Cops were also pedophiles, terrorists, blackmailers, spies, and traitors. Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 10, 2022 04:44 PM (sEw6T) 106
Wray is dirtier than that girl you made out within high school, but there's no way that Garland, Biden, and the whole lot didn't bloody know this was happening...
Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsXQ) at August 10, 2022 04:37 PM (WhsXQ) _________________ Yep. It's impossible to believe that some low-level functionary decided on his own to break a 200+ year precedent without mentioning it to any higher ups. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 04:44 PM (pxTb/) Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2022 04:44 PM (1jxCA) 108
Breaking: he gop has just sent an angry letter to the deputy assistant undersecretary of justice. In that letter they used several, some sources say even up to 6, exclamation points.
That’ll show ‘em! Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 04:44 PM (OalnH) 109
The rumor(?) is that they had padlocked some stuff and then lost the key.
Rudy Giuliani said exactly that on Crowder's show Tuesday. He's the source. Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2022 04:44 PM (ZGrMX) 110
>>>So this story -- We had to act fast, we knew where the documents were! -- seems shaky.
>What? It's been two fucking years! Or six depending on how you look at it. This rogue agency needs to be defunded and dismantled. Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 10, 2022 04:44 PM (WHt4f) 111
99 I'm gradually entering the "there is a specific document they really need to get back so they can reclassify and bury it" camp. I'm not there yet, but it does seem to be something that fits.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 04:43 PM (WWh8n) ========== The Secrete Americaine Gold Treasure of Ponce de Lyon. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 04:44 PM (LvTSG) 112
And yet they
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 10, 2022 04:43 PM (lTGtQ) FIFY Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2022 04:44 PM (6TxNR) 113
This was a pure top down operation. It has all the fingerprints, right down to the wait to see how the public reacts before officially denying culpability.
Never mistake it for a second. Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 04:44 PM (ejSoJ) 114
Try the veal. Tip the waitress. So help me God.
Posted by: Holy Crap at August 10, 2022 04:45 PM (glGDV) 115
So these clowns threw in the trash 200 plus years of precedent to raid the democrats' political opponent, ransack his house, based on a false report, signed of on by Jeffrey Epstein's lawyer who the democrats got assigned as a half judge.
And yet they Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 10, 2022 04:43 PM (lTGtQ) ++++ FIFY. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 04:45 PM (WWh8n) 116
Lets look at the search warrant signed by a nobody.
Posted by: runner at August 10, 2022 04:45 PM (2igD3) 117
1 The "tip" told them to ransack Melania's underwear? Sure they did, Jan.
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 04:43 PM (ejSoJ Excellent point. They knew where the documents were. You telling me someone told them Trump was hiding his transcripts of the Kim Jung call in Melania's underwear drawer? Clown show Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 04:45 PM (mZ3xv) 118
72 I am going to guess that bit about Garland not being informed is a lie. NFW the FBI decides to just serve a warrant on a former President and doesn't even bother to tell anyone. How dumb do they think we are to buy such crap?
I'll guess just the opposite - these little shits each feel like "I AM the LAW" and are perfectly fine doing anything to anyone on the flimsiest excuse. because garland and Wray are weak and foolish, they'll let them get away with it. Posted by: Inspector Kemp at August 10, 2022 04:45 PM (+DS2f) 119
I'm gradually entering the "there is a specific document they really need to get back so they can reclassify and bury it" camp.
I'm all in on "it's the Epstein client list". Just look at who the magistrate was. Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2022 04:45 PM (ZGrMX) 120
And just because this got Willowed but I liked it...
Neocons took the worst domestic policy and combined it with the stupidest foreign policy, and thought it was a good idea. "You got your Godless cryptofascist socialism in my short-sighted trillion dollar globalist interventionism! You got your short-sighted trillion dollar globalist interventionism in my Godless cryptofascist socialism!!" And now they call themselves NeverTrumpers. Fuckers. Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 04:45 PM (ejSoJ) 121
74 TheRickWilson
It was a beautiful raid. A perfect raid. People tell me they've never seen such as perfect raid. I, for one, hope "Rebel Yell" Wilson continues to pump up the "raid" narrative. Posted by: Simple Stevo at August 10, 2022 04:45 PM (xvFjy) 122
>>Sexton points out that this cover story about having to act fast based on this tip omits the detail about everyone already knowing where all the documents were stored:
So. . . why did they spend hours at MAL and rifle through Melania's closet full of her personal items??? Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2022 04:45 PM (I/doM) 123
I've read elsewhere that in early June the DOJ and FBI took a look at how the documents were stored at MAL and asked Trump's people to put an extra lock on the door to the room holding them.
Which would mean they were there, saw the documents, and did not attempt to take them. So why was this raid necessary again? I mean, other than intimidation and headlines. Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at August 10, 2022 04:46 PM (Bd6X8) 124
125 >>Sexton points out that this cover story about having to act fast based on this tip omits the detail about everyone already knowing where all the documents were stored:
So. . . why did they spend hours at MAL and rifle through Melania's closet full of her personal items??? Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2022 04:45 PM (I/doM) ======= Because they are powermad perverts. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 04:46 PM (LvTSG) 125
If Paul Sperry is right, the FBI is trying to get a Trumps of the de-classified (but never released) spygate docs.
The FBI is trying to bury spygate and will not stop. Posted by: redchief at August 10, 2022 04:46 PM (LU/A2) 126
I really don't understand this. If you have the power to raid Trump - raid Trump. Don't apologize.
If you have the power to rig a 2020 Election, do it. And then do it again. What's going on here ? Why back down ? Posted by: Here I Go Again at August 10, 2022 04:46 PM (EIczM) 127
"Lie harder, commie" is a great phrase.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 10, 2022 04:46 PM (44ww/) Posted by: Heavy Meta at August 10, 2022 04:46 PM (NgqoH) 129
Merritless Garland needs to resign post-haste as an: Incompetent Fuckwit.
"A raid on the former president of the USA, a political rival of our boss is not high priority stuff, we have a minor rookie handle that kind of thing." yeah. That's the ticket. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 04:46 PM (Ivdso) 130
There are two people that I guarantee you were in on the decision. One was Garland, the other one is a dementia patient in Washington.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 10, 2022 04:46 PM (lTGtQ) 131
If I were the guy who authorized a sketchy raid on a former president, I would be very anxious about getting out of town before the raid happened. I'd want to be somewhere far away, like some upstate hideaway in the Adirondacks. And nothing -- hell, high water, or Senate questioning -- would hold me back.
Posted by: red speck at August 10, 2022 04:46 PM (gS3OW) 132
That McConnell forced on him after he nixed all Trump's choices ?
Posted by: It's me donna _______________________ Cite? I sure ain't defending Mitch the Bitch, but I do recall all kinds of warnings at the time that Wray was 100% establishment and Trump was making a mistake. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 10, 2022 04:46 PM (es0Dj) 133
I managed to snag a pair of Melania's undies for the Big Guy.
Posted by: Nameless FBI Agent at August 10, 2022 04:46 PM (Y274z) 134
There's worse things then just not having an FBI Director, even if he was McConnells pick, just refuse to promote him.
Posted by: Hylian at August 10, 2022 04:42 PM Yeah! Without the senate confirmed appointees, the agency will be run by the highest level person in the permanent bureaucracy. Surely that person can be trusted. Posted by: Chuck C at August 10, 2022 04:46 PM (xttsV) 135
129 I really don't understand this. If you have the power to raid Trump - raid Trump. Don't apologize.
If you have the power to rig a 2020 Election, do it. And then do it again. What's going on here ? Why back down ? Posted by: Here I Go Again at August 10, 2022 04:46 PM (EIczM) ========= Because no one is in charge, and they know they can't rig 2022 or 2024 like they did 2020. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 04:47 PM (LvTSG) 136
"FBI director Christopher Wray ultimately gave his go-ahead to conduct the raid, the senior Justice official says. "It really is a case of the Bureau misreading the impact.""
From his Adirondacks vacation home? After he jetted out of town to avoid further questioning by the Senate? Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 10, 2022 04:47 PM (mfcnR) 137
I think I noted the raid seemed like it was kicked off by some FBI mid-level functionary without upper management approval. The FBI's "ducks were not in a row."
____________ That's going to be the story, but the only people who will believe it also believe in Santa Claus. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 04:47 PM (pxTb/) Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 10, 2022 04:47 PM (Xrfse) 139
Wray is dirtier than that girl you made out within high school, but there's no way that Garland, Biden, and the whole lot didn't bloody know this was happening...
Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsXQ) at August 10, 2022 04:37 PM (WhsXQ) ++++ He's dirtier than fingering your sister and finding your dad's wedding ring. If you're off-put by that description, I will remind you that this exact scenario is something plausibly experienced by the First Son, Hunter Biden. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 04:47 PM (WWh8n) 140
GIRDle McCain should really hang it up. She's Oh-fer.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 04:47 PM (mZ3xv) 141
140 That's going to be the story, but the only people who will believe it also believe in Santa Claus.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 04:47 PM (pxTb/) ======== I don't get it. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 04:47 PM (LvTSG) 142
@100 All Eds are in fact the same person, like a very complex version of Voltron.
---- *gasp* I knew it! Wait... does this also mean that anyone ne named Ed can play the guitar as well as Eddie Van Halen? Posted by: junior at August 10, 2022 04:47 PM (l3Ott) 143
What's going on here ? Why back down ?
Posted by: Here I Go Again at August 10, 2022 04:46 PM (EIczM) Who is backing down? Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2022 04:47 PM (6TxNR) 144
Anyone ever explain why they all needed their antifa backpacks?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Norway only has EVs because the government has guns at August 10, 2022 04:47 PM (ulgTA) 145
Hillary has a new line of Mu-mu's. All the ettes ordering?
Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 10, 2022 04:47 PM (QSjkU) 146
You know what has always bugged me? That Ed and Ted are both shortened versions of Edward. Ed, I get. But what the fuck is Ted about? Where do you get the T from?
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 04:47 PM (OalnH) 147
"he "Justice" Department is trying to claim this was all the decision of the local US Attorney for, I think, the Southern District of Florida."
the southern district of florida, you say? gee, not as hostile to trump as say DC which is where garland wants this show trial and summary execution to be staged at. Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 10, 2022 04:47 PM (OuH7W) 148
According to the Justice Department source, the Archives saw things differently,
Yeah. I just bet they did. Posted by: Diogenes at August 10, 2022 04:47 PM (anj39) 149
If sniffing the former first lady's panties is wrong we don't want to be right!
Posted by: The FBI at August 10, 2022 04:48 PM (ESjRY) 150
I am going to guess that bit about Garland not being informed is a lie. NFW the FBI decides to just serve a warrant on a former President and doesn't even bother to tell anyone. How dumb do they think we are to buy such crap?
I'll guess just the opposite - these little shits each feel like "I AM the LAW" and are perfectly fine doing anything to anyone on the flimsiest excuse. because garland and Wray are weak and foolish, they'll let them get away with it. Posted by: Inspector Kemp at August 10, 2022 04:45 PM (+DS2f) One possibility is that there are factions in the Biden WH and that Wray was doing the bidding of one faction, who didn't tell Garland or others. Without anyone in charge at the top, various underlings are pursuing their own agendas and playing power games against each other. Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 10, 2022 04:48 PM (wmDcS) 151
FBI director Christopher Wray ultimately gave his go-ahead to conduct the raid, the senior Justice official says. "It really is a case of the Bureau misreading the impact."
You don't say. You don't F***ing say. Justice will be served. Well, not justice so much as the Dem's political needs. But one of those things. Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2022 04:48 PM (/NCI4) 152
I'm sure the Mar-a-logo raid looked like a good idea to the DOJ just like Waco raid seemed to be a good idea in the planning stage.
Posted by: WisRich at August 10, 2022 04:48 PM (G0vdT) 153
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I'd add Milley, even though his offenses weren't directly involved with Russiagate and it's various tentacles. Milley must be in the top 3 steps to the gallows. He is a traitor and a disgrace to the uniform. He disobeyed orders from his superior - Trump. He knowingly and willingly worked against the USA in contacting the Chinese saying he would give them a heads up..... Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 10, 2022 04:48 PM (N39Ws) 154
As I've frequently posted, our saving graces are the incompetence and the infighting, but mostly the incompetence. This episode could well turn out to be a demonstration of both.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 10, 2022 04:48 PM (7B5FA) 155
So, the people who BELIEVED that it COULD NOT BE BUT the most t-crossed i-dotted act of selfless love of country by Top Men at the FBI.
24 hours later BELIEVE that the FIB hadn't even consulted the head of the DOJ about this?! And yet, there is NOTHING to fear from a "rogue FIB"? I guess when you're clueless you never have the clue to tire of being wrong. Posted by: Axeman at August 10, 2022 04:48 PM (krQz2) 156
But that doesn't make much sense, Sexton notes, because everyone knew where the documents were -- Trump allowed the DOJ and National Archives people to go through the boxes in June. They could have taken what they wanted.
//// kind of how like Manafort let the IRS know about what he was doing and the FBI too and they were like "ok thumbs up" until Weissmann decided to turn it into another show trial. Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 10, 2022 04:48 PM (OuH7W) Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2022 04:48 PM (ESjRY) 158
Wray is dirtier than that girl you made out within high school, but there's no way that Garland, Biden, and the whole lot didn't bloody know this was happening...
Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsXQ) at August 10, 2022 *** You wouldn't happen to still have her number, by any chance . . .? Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 10, 2022 04:49 PM (J2vNu) 159
>>You mean: Like Hillary Clinton continued to possess classified US intelligence on her servers, until she defied government demands for those emails and used BleachBit to destroy them?
IIRC, she sent the server to CO firm Platte River Systems and they ordered one of their guys to do this. He was caught asking advice on how to do this on some online forum anonymously. Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2022 04:49 PM (I/doM) 160
So basically Wray swatted Trump, but seems like they also have another fall guy!
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 10, 2022 04:49 PM (8GBH4) 161
So:
-they did not find anything -they could not get them to turn the security cameras off, so planting evidence was tricksy -people are pissed Result: We don't know anything about this! Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 10, 2022 04:49 PM (diceA) 162
149 You know what has always bugged me? That Ed and Ted are both shortened versions of Edward. Ed, I get. But what the fuck is Ted about? Where do you get the T from?
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 04:47 PM (OalnH) ========= I've read about this. I think it's related to how Dick and Rick are both diminutives of Richard. In Middle English there was a regular convention of using rhyming versions of shortened names, like Ted and Ed, and it's just stuck. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 04:49 PM (LvTSG) 163
I'm calling it. I now actually believe that when they fired up the Large Hadron Collider in 2008 and it blew up, or when they fired it up in 2012 and it worked, it ripped a hole in spacetime and thrust us into some bizarre parallel dimension where everything is insane.
No, I don't, but man, I've read less sensible explanations. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 04:49 PM (WWh8n) 164
138 129 I really don't understand this. If you have the power to raid Trump - raid Trump. Don't apologize.
If you have the power to rig a 2020 Election, do it. And then do it again. What's going on here ? Why back down ? Posted by: Here I Go Again at August 10, 2022 04:46 PM (EIczM) ========= Because no one is in charge, and they know they can't rig 2022 or 2024 like they did 2020. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 04:47 PM (LvTSG) Yeah oligarchies are shit at consolidating power absent someone ending the oligarchy and becoming dictator/monarch. Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 10, 2022 04:49 PM (b2nrj) 165
68...She's going to be binge-eating and drinking come November. It will be fabulous.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 04:41 PM (ptqGC) You made me laugh, thank you! Is she going to let her roots go, too? Posted by: Flyover at August 10, 2022 04:49 PM (Rbu5d) 166
Because no one is in charge, and they know they can't rig 2022 or 2024 like they did 2020.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 04:47 PM (LvTSG) OK ... fair. But what changed ? Is the GOP suddenly getting a spine ? Is it the State changes regarding voting ? Or something else ? Posted by: Here I Go Again at August 10, 2022 04:49 PM (EIczM) 167
@BillKristol
What we know: 1. When Trump left the White House, government documents were improperly sent to Mar-a-Lago. 2. Trump didn't return all the documents, nor was eager to do so. 3. The government obtained a search warrant and--in a civil and orderly way--took back its documents. END Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 04:49 PM (ptqGC) 168
Wray shamelessly... something about needing to catch a flight....
Posted by: torabora at August 10, 2022 04:49 PM (Y274z) 169
Hillary launching her new "but her emails" clothing line just when this happens suggests that she thought that some horrendous smoking gun was going to come from this, that it would shut up all her critics.
So far at least, this does not seem to be taking place and she just looks even worse than usual. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 04:49 PM (Ivdso) 170
Florida Man is a convenient scapegoat.
Posted by: Mark1971 at August 10, 2022 04:49 PM (xPl2J) Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 04:49 PM (mZ3xv) 172
So. . . why did they spend hours at MAL and rifle through Melania's closet full of her personal items???
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2022 04:45 PM (I/doM) ======= Because they're scumbags Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2022 04:49 PM (1jxCA) 173
I think I noted the raid seemed like it was kicked off by some FBI mid-level functionary without upper management approval. The FBI's "ducks were not in a row."
** A not-a-judge and some low-level employees coordinate and raid the President of the United States personal residence. For nine hours. Yeah, okay. Posted by: Moron Robbie - Norway only has EVs because the government has guns at August 10, 2022 04:49 PM (ulgTA) 174
Sorry, Senate, I have to leave the hearing now to get my hair done!
And if the Senate has any more questions for me, I have one thing to say to you: Иди на хуй! Posted by: Chris Wray! at August 10, 2022 04:49 PM (I2/tG) 175
Trump is now what sen. Joe McCarthy called a 5th amendment communist!
Posted by: carly at August 10, 2022 04:49 PM (qCszt) 176
Has Andy McCarthy vouched for Wray and the Archivist-in-Chief yet?
Posted by: Liz Cheney's Rancid Cunt at August 10, 2022 04:49 PM (chL32) 177
You know, I'm starting to think that Merrick Garland may not actually be the Smartest Lawyer In The World.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 10, 2022 04:49 PM (bW8dp) 178
You know what has always bugged me? That Ed and Ted are both shortened versions of Edward. Ed, I get. But what the fuck is Ted about? Where do you get the T from?
China? Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2022 04:50 PM (ESjRY) 179
I foresee ... a Memorandum of Censure in someone's temporary record in the future.
Posted by: Zoldar at August 10, 2022 04:50 PM (UnwbL) 180
>>>The rumor(?) is that they had padlocked some stuff and then lost the key.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 10, 2022 04:42 PM (b2nrj) Don't know if it has been pointed out, but DJT posted himself today that they actually put a SECOND lock on the storage location at the request of the DOJ in June. Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at August 10, 2022 04:50 PM (QYPq3) 181
You know what has always bugged me? That Ed and Ted are both shortened versions of Edward. Ed, I get. But what the fuck is Ted about? Where do you get the T from? Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 04:47 PM (OalnH)
Tell me about it. Posted by: Ned at August 10, 2022 04:50 PM (7B5FA) 182
But what changed ?
He's hoping not analyzing. The idea that voting is worthless and we're no longer any sort of democratic republic is too horrifying to contemplate. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 04:50 PM (Ivdso) 183
Bill Kristol is ...as usual...FOS.
Posted by: torabora at August 10, 2022 04:50 PM (Y274z) 184
I bet Lisa Monaco knew.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2022 04:50 PM (ZLI7S) 185
not only not a judge, a fucking groomer
Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 10, 2022 04:50 PM (OuH7W) 186
Didn't read the whole post yet, but... Holy Crap!
Posted by: InZona (formerly InCali) at August 10, 2022 04:50 PM (ep37o) 187
>>>They took time out for cocktails on the veranda, and some luncheon by the pool.
The cucumber sandwiches were refreshing as were the gin and tonics. Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 10, 2022 04:50 PM (WHt4f) 188
You mean: Like Hillary Clinton continued to possess classified US intelligence on her servers, until she defied government demands for those emails and used BleachBit to destroy them?
** Tell me again how Anthony Weiner got them on his laptop. Posted by: Moron Robbie - Norway only has EVs because the government has guns at August 10, 2022 04:51 PM (ulgTA) 189
As I've frequently posted, our saving graces are the incompetence and the infighting, but mostly the incompetence. This episode could well turn out to be a demonstration of both.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 10, 2022 04:48 PM (7B5FA) ++++ There are a lot of incompetents but there are plenty who aren't. The infighting is a more serious problem, but it is also inevitable. When you have one-party rule, you get cabals and factions. Political monoculture isn't sustainable and so the monoparty system because about balancing rival factions within the structure. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 04:51 PM (WWh8n) 190
I foresee ... a Memorandum of Censure in someone's temporary record in the future. Posted by: Zoldar at August 10, 2022 04:50 PM (UnwbL)
Not until after the IG investigation and the grievance hearing. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 10, 2022 04:51 PM (7B5FA) 191
169 OK ... fair. But what changed ? Is the GOP suddenly getting a spine ? Is it the State changes regarding voting ? Or something else ?
Posted by: Here I Go Again at August 10, 2022 04:49 PM (EIczM) ========= Most of the powers they used in 2020 are gone. PA is a good example. The no-reason mail in ballots sent to everyone extended from emergency covid powers granted to Governor Wolf. Those emergency powers were rescinded early last year. They can't do that level of cheating again. And...I repeat...1 million fake ballots in Pennsylvania. And they can't do it again. Yes, Philly will cheat again like always, but Philly wasn't nearly enough last time. They had to spend months cheating through the mail, and it wasn't enough. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 04:51 PM (LvTSG) Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 04:51 PM (OalnH) 193
You know what has always bugged me? That Ed and Ted are both shortened versions of Edward. Ed, I get. But what the fuck is Ted about? Where do you get the T from?
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 04:47 PM (OalnH) --- Rhyming. It's big in traditional English nicknaming. Posted by: Axeman at August 10, 2022 04:51 PM (krQz2) 194
As I've frequently posted, our saving graces are the incompetence and the infighting
and an almost fanatical devotion to getting Donald Trump. Our three weapons are... Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2022 04:51 PM (/NCI4) 195
Milley must be in the top 3 steps to the gallows. He is a traitor and a disgrace to the uniform. He disobeyed orders from his superior - Trump. He knowingly and willingly worked against the USA in contacting the Chinese saying he would give them a heads up.....
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 10, 2022 04:48 PM (N39Ws) ------ Let's not forget Brennan, Comey, Stroyk (sp?), Lisa Page, and the other denizens of the Obama WH. Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 04:51 PM (ptqGC) 196
Posted by: Hylian at August 10, 2022 04:35 PM (YsTC1)
Can we not turn this into a screedfest on Trump and concentrate on the duplicity of Graland and Wray and the utterly compromised Fibbies?. We aren't in the primary process for President yet. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2022 04:51 PM (wvo9L) 197
> Wray is dirtier than that girl you made out within high school, but there's no way that Garland, Biden, and the whole lot didn't bloody know this was happening...
Well, not Biden, possibly. I don't think Biden even knows what century it is at this stage. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 10, 2022 04:51 PM (bW8dp) 198
Biden will award the Medal of Freedom to Wray and Garland on Friday.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 10, 2022 04:51 PM (e0QtT) 199
Why do we believe any of this bullshit? They were all in on it, they meant to do it, and no one is going to be held accountable.
The people who are saying "oh now you've done it, you just elected Trump" are all NeverTrump Republicans. And they are full of shit too. Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2022 04:52 PM (6TxNR) 200
You know, I'm starting to think that Merrick Garland may not actually be the Smartest Lawyer In The World.
* You only say that because he's white. And a man. Posted by: Moron Robbie - Norway only has EVs because the government has guns at August 10, 2022 04:52 PM (ulgTA) 201
Got to love the Clown News Network
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2022 04:52 PM (k8B25) 202
195 165
The shit your learn at AOS. Thanks bro. Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 04:51 PM (OalnH) ========= No problem. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 04:52 PM (LvTSG) 203
"FBI director Christopher Wray ultimately gave his go-ahead to conduct the raid, the senior Justice official says. "It really is a case of the Bureau misreading the impact.""
Yes, who could have foreseen that the FBI ransacking a presidents house on behalf of the democrat party would cause any sort of ruckus. Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 10, 2022 04:52 PM (lTGtQ) 204
>>You mean: Like Hillary Clinton continued to possess classified US intelligence on her servers, until she defied government demands for those emails and used BleachBit to destroy them?
Reminder: Hillary didn't just have classified State Dept. docs on her email server -- she had IC docs in which she had no clearance to read, let alone possess. Period. Catherine Herridge reported on this, that the IC was doing an internal investigation attempting to identify how TF Hillary got her hands on some of the docs that were found on her email server. Straight upp espionage. Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2022 04:52 PM (I/doM) 205
Has FJB been told yet?
Posted by: torabora at August 10, 2022 04:52 PM (Y274z) 206
OK ... fair. But what changed ? Is the GOP suddenly getting a spine ? Is it the State changes regarding voting ? Or something else ? Posted by: Here I Go Again at August 10, 2022 04:49 PM (EIczM) It's largely just disorganization on their end. The urban Democrat political machines are local and discrete entities. They need cover at the national or state level to facilitate larger scale fraud for instance. They could pull off the fraud either way, but want legal protection and payoff to do it. Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 10, 2022 04:52 PM (b2nrj) 207
If Paul Sperry is right, the FBI is trying to get a Trumps of the de-classified (but never released) spygate docs.
The FBI is trying to bury spygate and will not stop. Posted by: redchief at August 10, 2022 04:46 PM (LU/A2) This was my first thought. He has some embarrassing shit on them. Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 10, 2022 04:52 PM (S+j2h) 208
I wonder if Breitbart's reporting that there were whistleblowers from the same FBI office that conducted the raid who came forward last week complaining about politicized manipulation coming from the top has any relevance?
t.ly/5BKY Also, there are no good FBI agents. Posted by: insurgens ad opus at August 10, 2022 04:52 PM (jPTfu) 209
3. The government obtained a search warrant and--in a civil and orderly way--took back its documents.
Another thing that needs to be done on Inauguration Day 2024 is to have the FBI kick down Bill Kristol's door, cuff him and perp-walk him, and, in a civil and orderly way, confiscate all his documents and electronic devices, so we can check them for evidence of crimes. Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2022 04:53 PM (I2/tG) 210
Remember when some NCO was playing "panties on your head" in a prison in Iraq and it was Bush's fault?
Funny how the FBI raiding the former president for no good reason is about to be the exclusive fault of some no body... Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2022 04:53 PM (ESjRY) 211
Rachel Maddow, the night of:
This is the day where you buy a physical copy of the newspaper! He couldn't contain his glee. Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 04:53 PM (mZ3xv) 212
And...I repeat...1 million fake ballots in Pennsylvania. And they can't do it again. Yes, Philly will cheat again like always, but Philly wasn't nearly enough last time. They had to spend months cheating through the mail, and it wasn't enough.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 04:51 PM (LvTSG) Dang, dude! Your ESG score just went into the negatives! Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2022 04:53 PM (6TxNR) 213
MN-1 last night was not good news for the GOP.
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 04:53 PM (OalnH) 214
>>Tell me again how Anthony Weiner got them on his laptop.
I like that Hillary Clinton got her maid to print them out for her. Sounds legit. Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2022 04:53 PM (ZLI7S) 215
I have doubts Garland is more than the figurehead but could be wrong
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2022 04:53 PM (k8B25) 216
Don't know if it has been pointed out, but DJT posted himself today that they actually put a SECOND lock on the storage location at the request of the DOJ in June.
Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at August 10, 2022 04:50 PM (QYPq3) -------- You are correct. The put the locks on at the DOJ's request. Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 04:53 PM (ptqGC) 217
>> "It really is a case of the Bureau misreading the impact.""
Huh, like there was 'no controlling legal authority' or somesuch. Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2022 04:53 PM (I/doM) Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 10, 2022 04:53 PM (8GBH4) 219
Which will we find out first, who signed off on the Police-State-sanctioned burglary or who leaked Roe v. Wade?
/The answer will be Neither! Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 10, 2022 04:53 PM (QjJsp) 220
There's no SOL for espionage.
So Hillary can still hang. Posted by: torabora at August 10, 2022 04:53 PM (Y274z) 221
@133 There are two people that I guarantee you were in on the decision. One was Garland, the other one is a dementia patient in Washington.
---- Nah. I don't think Biden knew. I suspect that there's no one in charge at the White House, and each of the departments is operating more or less as it pleases. Posted by: junior at August 10, 2022 04:53 PM (l3Ott) 222
The Deep Shit State.
Posted by: Axeman at August 10, 2022 04:53 PM (krQz2) 223
If sniffing the former first lady's panties is wrong we don't want to be right!
Posted by: The FBI at August 10, 2022 04:48 PM (ESjRY) this MIGHT be the one and only time i agree with you assholes... Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsXQ) at August 10, 2022 04:53 PM (WhsXQ) 224
@BillKristol
What we know: 1. When Trump left the White House, government documents were improperly sent to Mar-a-Lago. 2. Trump didn't return all the documents, nor was eager to do so. 3. The government obtained a search warrant and--in a civil and orderly way--took back its documents. END Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 04:49 PM (ptqGC) *** "Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.” Posted by: Diogenes at August 10, 2022 04:53 PM (anj39) 225
Prediction: FBI will lie about receiving "death threats." Because that's always how this bullshit plays out: 1. Leftists do/say something awful. 2. Leftists realize how bad it looked and need to do damage control. 3. Leftists pretend to be the "innocent victim" in the whole affair, and claim they're receiving death threats. Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 10, 2022 04:54 PM (sEw6T) 226
Merrick "Judy" Garland is trying to blame Wray.
We'll see if Wray takes the rap to protect Judy. I'm betting not. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 10, 2022 04:54 PM (bW8dp) 227
Because no one is in charge, and they know they can't rig 2022 or 2024 like they did 2020.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 04:47 PM (LvTSG) OK ... fair. But what changed ? Is the GOP suddenly getting a spine ? Is it the State changes regarding voting ? Or something else ? IMHO, it's a combination of: 1) the documents they found were a complete bust - there was nothing of interest, 2) the voters have been letting them know exactly what they think of this overreach, and 3) some of their own people, smarter people, said "what the hell were you thinking"? Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2022 04:54 PM (/NCI4) 228
Catherine Herridge reported on this, that the IC was doing an internal investigation attempting to identify how TF Hillary got her hands on some of the docs that were found on her email server.
"They just happened to be on my laptop too!" --Anthony "dick" Wiener Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 04:54 PM (Ivdso) 229
Christopher Wray possesses information that will lead to the arrest and conviction of Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: Merrick Garland at August 10, 2022 04:54 PM (1jxCA) 230
Shorter Wray: "hey, you fucked up...you trusted us."
Posted by: Boswell at August 10, 2022 04:55 PM (+Cgut) 231
If Garland wasn't informed, I'm waiting for at least a few dozen firings.
This was a "cross the Rubicon" moment, the idea Garland would not be informed of it is absolute horse shit. Posted by: Hylian at August 10, 2022 04:55 PM (YsTC1) 232
You know what has always bugged me? That Ed and Ted are both shortened versions of Edward. Ed, I get. But what the fuck is Ted about? Where do you get the T from?
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 04:47 PM (OalnH) My guess is that when the name "Edward" was popular, people started adding consonants in front to distinguish them. So three Edwards would become "Ed," "Ted," and "Ned." It's also a diminutive of Theodore, which may have been why it was picked up originally. Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 10, 2022 04:55 PM (wmDcS) 233
I like that Hillary Clinton got her maid TO GO INTO THE SCIF to print them out for her. Sounds legit.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2022 04:53 PM (ZLI7S) FIFY. For accuracy Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2022 04:55 PM (6TxNR) Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 04:55 PM (OalnH) 235
Another thing that needs to be done on Inauguration Day 2024 is to have the FBI kick down Bill Kristol's door, cuff him and perp-walk him, and, in a civil and orderly way, confiscate all his documents and electronic devices, so we can check them for evidence of crimes.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2022 04:53 PM (I2/tG) ------------------------- At least you recognize the proper use of the FBI - to persecute and arrest your political enemies. Posted by: insurgens ad opus at August 10, 2022 04:55 PM (jPTfu) Posted by: wth at August 10, 2022 04:55 PM (v0R5T) 237
You know what has always bugged me? That Ed and Ted are both shortened versions of Edward. Ed, I get. But what the fuck is Ted about? Where do you get the T from?
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 04:47 PM (OalnH) I found the "T" in a waitress with Chris Dodd. Posted by: Zombie Edward "Ted" Kennedy at August 10, 2022 04:55 PM (wRWg2) 238
>>I have doubts Garland is more than the figurehead but could be wrong
Some have speculated for a long time that Lisa Monaco is really running the DOJ and as you said Garland is just a figurehead. Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2022 04:55 PM (ZLI7S) 239
A quibble: the massive, historic, years-long Espionage Act crime festival Hillary led on the 7th floor at State is always misportrayed in a way that vastly downplays it's importance and unprecedented nature.
It's not just "emails". It's not just a "private server". It's the deliberate, systematic, knowing violation of the Espionage Act, and the very highest levels of government, with assessed foreign exploitation (damage). Absolutely nothing like it in our history. It's moving communications and information that classified and highly sensitive outside the prescribed secure channels and conditions. I think the Espionage Act still carries capital punishment in the schedule of punishments. Few federal laws do, or ever did. That's how serious a law it is. But even those who despise or oppose Hillary almost always, in effect, sugar coat her massive unprecedented historic crime wave in the way they talk about it. Posted by: rhomboid at August 10, 2022 04:55 PM (OTzUX) 240
Holy Balls Batman, check this Bullshit out:
https://tinyurl.com/2bf7m4s4 Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 10, 2022 04:53 PM (8GBH4) But we were told the new IRS agents were hired to go after billionaires and our other betters. Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 04:55 PM (ptqGC) 241
98 @MeghanMcCain
This better be legit - or you're making him a martyr and just handing him 2024 on a silver platter. Piglet's having a bad month, you know, after Kari Lake shit on her commie daddies grave and all. She and Tim Scott can hit up the all you can eat BBQ together when this is all over. Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 10, 2022 04:55 PM (m7R0k) 242
Boy, did I get left alone on that last thread.
Posted by: wth at August 10, 2022 04:56 PM (v0R5T) 243
FIB shoves roman candle up it's own ass and lights it. Wiley Coyote is a mastermind compared to these fucks.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2022 04:56 PM (g6x3Z) 244
Wray didn't give a courtesy heads up to his boss Garland? In most outfits, that's a sacking.
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 10, 2022 04:56 PM (4I/2K) 245
I knew there would have to be a fall guy but Wray is higher up the food chain that I thought. Maybe this can start a sober, reasonable discussion about national dissolution because we cannot share a country with these fascist pigs and they would fare better in a more blatant police state.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 10, 2022 04:56 PM (nMx88) 246
> This was a "cross the Rubicon" moment, the idea Garland would not be informed of it is absolute horse shit.
Right. It's not like this was some nickel and dime drug bust in Circle Jerk, Nebraska. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 10, 2022 04:56 PM (bW8dp) 247
And if the Senate has any more questions for me, I have one thing to say to you:
Иди на хуй! Posted by: Chris Wray! at August 10, 2022 04:49 PM (I2/tG) Ну пиздец! Он обманул нас опять. - Congress? Posted by: Mishdog at August 10, 2022 04:56 PM (uwW33) 248
With talk of locks on important things, I'm back to who opened the fucking GIANT MAGNETIC LOCKS on the Capitol doors, eh?
Posted by: micky at August 10, 2022 04:56 PM (3byMq) 249
Holy Balls Batman, check this Bullshit out
"Carry a firearm and be willing to use deadly force, if necessary." Them revenooers are getting out of control! Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 04:56 PM (Ivdso) 250
Allahpundit is extremely worried that Trump will now announce his '24 run BEFORE the midterms and destroy the Republican partys chances of retaking the House and Senate. He's such a bitch. Posted by: portlandon at August 10, 2022 04:56 PM (+oR7L) 251
The FBI is proud to announce the arrest of another set of parents paying bribes to get their kids into college. This reprehensible conduct must stop!
Posted by: Christopher Wray at August 10, 2022 04:56 PM (1jxCA) 252
Just like how the local police gave the stand down order in Uvalde and the hundreds of federal agents present there had nothing to do with anything.
Boy these local people are just Out of Control. Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 04:56 PM (dscaa) 253
172 >>>Hillary launching her new "but her emails" clothing line just when this happens suggests that she thought that some horrendous smoking gun was going to come from this, that it would shut up all her critics.
I think it would make for good theater once Trump is back in office and the GOP 2.0 has reset our intelligence communities, that the all-Chad GOP Senators grilling Hillary wear her "But her emails" gear when handing her over to prison authorities. Posted by: red speck at August 10, 2022 04:56 PM (gS3OW) 254
FBI director Christopher Wray ultimately gave his go-ahead to conduct the raid, the senior Justice official says. "It really is a case of the Bureau misreading the impact."
== Holy Shi+ they are throwing Wray under the bus?!?!?! WTF absolute Clown show. He's gonna take that well. NOT. Posted by: No Way at August 10, 2022 04:56 PM (C6xeQ) 255
3. Leftists pretend to be the "innocent victim" in the whole affair, and claim they're receiving death threats.
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 10, 2022 04:54 PM (sEw6T) --------------------- In the FBI's case, at least this part is honest. Posted by: insurgens ad opus at August 10, 2022 04:57 PM (jPTfu) 256
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 04:49 PM (ptqGC)
@BillKristol What we know: 1. When Trump left the White House, government documents were improperly sent to Mar-a-Lago. How do we know that, Bill? This is an assertion, not a fact. Why is someone at DoJ or National Archives who claimed it credible by default but the man targeted isn't? What is the basis for your assertion? 2. Trump didn't return all the documents, nor was eager to do so. You know nothing about his state of mind and this is a blind assertion. Trump cooperated with the National Archives as recently as June and has apparently not impeded their investigation. So what is the basis for your knowledge as to his state of mind? What is your source? How was it verified? 3. The government obtained a search warrant and--in a civil and orderly way--took back its documents. Ramming through a sealed warrant by laundering it through a conflicted pseudo-judge with ties to Trump's political enemies is not "civil" or "orderly," Bill. END Saying "END" instead of "Period." doesn't make you sound any less like a bloviating asshole. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 04:57 PM (WWh8n) 257
Prediction: FBI will lie about receiving "death threats."
Because that's always how this bullshit plays out: Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 10, 2022 04:54 PM (sEw6T) --- An easy way to fill their Moar White Supremacy quota. Posted by: Axeman at August 10, 2022 04:57 PM (krQz2) 258
>>>3. Leftists pretend to be the "innocent victim" in the whole affair, and claim they're receiving death threats.
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 10, 2022 04:54 PM (sEw6T) Well, if they're going to pretend to be victims... Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at August 10, 2022 04:57 PM (QYPq3) 259
At least you recognize the proper use of the FBI - to persecute and arrest your political enemies.
I'm shocked - shocked - to discover all this child porn on Bill Kristol's computer! Posted by: The New, Improved, FBI! at August 10, 2022 04:57 PM (I2/tG) 260
He's hoping not analyzing. The idea that voting is worthless and we're no longer any sort of democratic republic is too horrifying to contemplate.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 04:50 PM (Ivdso) You know, for the Ruling Class, that might just be right. And that actually gives me hope. I've never been one to piss and moan while Mom or Dad rips off the band-aid. Posted by: Here I Go Again at August 10, 2022 04:57 PM (EIczM) 261
When you take a swing at the King, you better not miss. Looks like the Feebs and the DOJ missed big time. Sort of like hitting one's self in the dick with a spiked bat.
Yeah Buddy. Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at August 10, 2022 04:58 PM (R5lpX) 262
Holy Shi+ they are throwing Wray under the bus?!?!?! WTF absolute Clown show. He's gonna take that well. NOT.
Posted by: No Way at August 10, 2022 04:56 PM (C6xeQ) Joes off on Vacay bet his handlers said it makes Joe look bad so find a scapegoat Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 04:58 PM (bs+z0) 263
I blame this all on low level government bureaucrats in Cincinnati.
Posted by: Lois Lerner at August 10, 2022 04:58 PM (wRWg2) 264
If it was all just a mistake and over reaching - WHERE'S THE FCUKIN APOLOGY?!! EH BOYS? TWO DAYS OUT THE OP IS NOT WORKING - OOPS OOPSIE?
Posted by: No Way at August 10, 2022 04:58 PM (QruWT) 265
Wray is pretty high up to be the scapegoat. But then, he is a Trump appointee.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 10, 2022 04:58 PM (yQpMk) 266
Absolutely nothing like it in our history
I would argue that Joe Kennedy using his position as Ambassador to England (wtaf???) to send classified info to the Nazis qualifies. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 04:58 PM (Ivdso) 267
WTF is "misreading the impact" have to do with anything?
DOJ's job is .... it's job. It's not "reading" "impact" - it's enforcing the law, and investigating/prosecuting violations thereof. Period. As always, ace and others, this is a "source". Could be someone with no clue whatsoever. This bizarre framework and statement - about reading the "impact" of what should be just carrying out the functions of the organization - is one signal that the "source" is less than reliable, or alternatively that (surprise) the DOJ's mindset is fundamentally off the rails, in terms of how it views its responsibilities. Posted by: rhomboid at August 10, 2022 04:58 PM (OTzUX) 268
Can anyone clue me in as to when the Head of the National Archives became invested with superseding classification authority and the power to swat once-and-future presidents?
Posted by: Liz Cheney's Rancid Cunt at August 10, 2022 04:58 PM (chL32) 269
>What I've observed is that they are programming themselves, and they simply have no pre-programmed response for information they don't anticipate.
>But they do have a fallback behavior: call you a hater. >Whatever "double standard" you claim they hold, they are sure that yours are ten times worse. That's why they need to bracket you off as a "White Supremacist" if you come at it from a completely different way than they do. >Scarborough is calling anybody who doesn't like the FIB's raid on Mar-a-Lago a "fascist". He literally is. I hope and pray we don't put up with any more of this. I suspect strongly that gen z will not put up with it at all. They'll squash it. And me, rasping and slumped in my wheelchair, will have a lot of schadenfreude. FFS I am tired of being ruled by people who I would not hire for the lowest of positions. Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 10, 2022 04:58 PM (44ww/) 270
#219
Guiliani reports the FBI list their key and had to break in the room THEY pad locked. Posted by: torabora at August 10, 2022 04:58 PM (Y274z) 271
234 If Garland wasn't informed, I'm waiting for at least a few dozen firings.
This was a "cross the Rubicon" moment, the idea Garland would not be informed of it is absolute horse shit. Posted by: Hylian at August 10, 2022 04:55 PM (YsTC1) Garland knew. He's just pissy about being denied SCOTUS. Posted by: redchief at August 10, 2022 04:58 PM (LU/A2) 272
The raid had nothing to do with getting back these supposedly classified documents. It had everything to do with pulling an excuse out of the DoJ's ass to hoover up every scrap of paper at MAL so that it could be "accidentally" leaked at the proper time. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 10, 2022 04:58 PM (n+4am) 273
A not-a-judge and some low-level employees coordinate and raid the President of the United States personal residence. For nine hours. Yeah, okay. Posted by: Moron Robbie - Norway only has EVs because the government has guns at August 10, 2022 04:49 PM (ulgTA)
1. "Trip to Abilene" = everyone thinks someone else wanted to do this, so they just went along with it and no one asked the obvious questions, but actually no one involved thought it was a good idea 2. Back in the Crossfire Hurricane times Rhomboid and I argued about this -- I think there had to have been hundreds of people involved in Crossfire Hurricane and he believes it was a lot fewer -- this, similarly, could have been one of those things where a few people instigated it and everyone else involved went along because 1. they might actually find the "smoking gun" and they wanted to be part of it; 2. they believed their chain of command; 3. they were predisposed to believe OrangeManBad; or 4. there was no down side to being involved within the DOJ, but plenty of down side to not being a team player, even if you had misgivings. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 10, 2022 04:58 PM (7B5FA) 274
Twice today, my comment ended up at #264.
Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at August 10, 2022 04:58 PM (R5lpX) Posted by: Phil Conners at August 10, 2022 04:59 PM (xttsV) 276
So I guess this means they have bupkis?
Or they recovered exactly what they wanted, which won't lead to any charges but at least they have it (doubtful). Shocker. Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 04:59 PM (dscaa) 277
> I will remind you that this exact scenario is something plausibly experienced by the First Son, Hunter Biden.
The Bidens invented several porn genres long before PornHub existed. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 10, 2022 04:59 PM (bW8dp) 278
Holy Balls Batman, check this Bullshit out:
https://tinyurl.com/2bf7m4s4 Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 10, 2022 04:53 PM (8GBH4) ....... I luv luv luv the "honesty and integrity" bit. Posted by: wth at August 10, 2022 04:59 PM (v0R5T) 279
There's worse things then just not having an FBI Director, even if he was McConnells pick, just refuse to promote him.
Posted by: Hylian ================= Yes, what is worse is having Hillary's neighbor as FBI chief which is what would have happened if Trump left the post vacant. Look up Andrew McCabe who was acting director after Comey was fired. Do your homework before posting. Posted by: whig at August 10, 2022 04:59 PM (CXr4y) 280
Allahpundit is extremely worried that Trump will now announce his '24 run BEFORE the midterms and destroy the Republican partys chances of retaking the House and Senate. He's such a bitch. Posted by: portlandon lolz! Did Ace see this? Did Ace see Analpundenda's fake concern for the Republicans' chances? Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 10, 2022 04:59 PM (sEw6T) 281
Some have speculated for a long time that Lisa Monaco is really running the DOJ and as you said Garland is just a figurehead.
I first read that as *ruining* the DOJ. Which is just as accurate. Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at August 10, 2022 04:59 PM (Bd6X8) 282
Holy Shi+ they are throwing Wray under the bus?!?!?! WTF absolute Clown show. He's gonna take that well. NOT.
Posted by: No Way at August 10, 2022 04:56 PM (C6xeQ) --- Doesn't matter. Biden will just appoint Comey Clone III and move on. Posted by: Axeman at August 10, 2022 04:59 PM (krQz2) 283
I think this is another deep state op, which will be used as precedent to conduct a search of Hunter and or Slow Joe residences/offices.
The Dems have to get rid of Biden and make way for a new and improved nominee for 2024. They will Conduct a search/ raid in Hunter’s home, computer, etc. and then the deep state will say - see how fair and impartial we are? We also raided Joe and his crack head kid to get evidence. Just something I am cynical enough to believe at this point. Posted by: Czech Chick at August 10, 2022 04:59 PM (haWye) 284
Winter is coming.
Posted by: Eddard Stark at August 10, 2022 04:59 PM (bW8dp) 285
Ferriero said that in those materials, the Archives discovered items "marked as classified national security information,"
--- That's a curious formulation, isn't it? Kash Patel says the documents were declassified by President Trump. So no classified documents were there, though some may still have been "marked as classified." Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 10, 2022 04:59 PM (sWM8x) 286
They were clear there to plant shit.
The employees refused to turn off security cameras which, i guess, the forgot about????? Posted by: dagny, first of her name at August 10, 2022 04:59 PM (HMTci) 287
I'm shocked - shocked - to discover all this child porn on Bill Kristol's computer!
"...no, seriously there's terabytes of this stuff, he has multiple SSDs on shelves absolutely full. We didn't have to plant a thing" --horrified FBI agent Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 04:59 PM (Ivdso) 288
mfers... one and all...
they want pronouns.. give them pronouns.. the next Trump rally cry: lock her/her/him/them up.. lock her/her/him/them up Posted by: Silent at August 10, 2022 04:59 PM (CrU4U) 289
why did the need a sealed warrant, if it was just about these (well known) archive documents? Maybe they were just fishing and did not find the fish? Or maybe they were planting evidence and bugs. Or maybe gathering intel on all Trump's communications and sources and allies?
Or as many suggest, Trump has some evidence against Wray and the FBI, so that might be why Wray was leading the raid (while still on vacation with his jet?). Seems the known documents were pretense for the real objectives. But they had no real basis, unless they find (suspenseful music) Mr. Plum, in the library, with the candlestick ... Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2022 04:59 PM (Cus5s) 290
216 MN-1 last night was not good news for the GOP.
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 04:53 PM (OalnH) ========= Why? The GOP candidate won by 4. 2020 race the GOP candidate won by 3. Before that, 2018 the GOP won by 1, and before that it was consistently won by Democrats. Seems like a not bad sign. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 04:59 PM (LvTSG) Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 10, 2022 04:59 PM (7B5FA) 292
Who all went on vacation? The mafiosi.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 10, 2022 05:00 PM (lTGtQ) 293
If sniffing the former first lady's panties is wrong we don't want to be right!
Posted by: The FBI at August 10, 2022 04:48 PM (ESjRY) Works for me! Adriana's panties were lovely. Posted by: Zombie Paulie Walnuts at August 10, 2022 05:00 PM (4I/2K) 294
The silence from the feebs and the doh Jay was about figuring out who to pin this shit on.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 05:00 PM (mZ3xv) 295
125...So. . . why did they spend hours at MAL and rifle through Melania's closet full of her personal items???
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2022 04:45 PM (I/doM) I would want to burn everything they touched. Ick. Posted by: Flyover at August 10, 2022 05:00 PM (Rbu5d) 296
I doubt this crazy Nicaraguan needs to worry about the FBI knocking down her door and stealing her panties:
@ananavarro For all the hypocrites making an absurd comparison now, 3rd world dictators: Appoint useless relatives to gvt. jobs Pardon their criminal cronies Hold military parades to feed their ego Treat free press as enemy Are above the law Stay in power thru insurrections Sound familiar? Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 05:00 PM (ptqGC) 297
>>Catherine Herridge reported on this, that the IC was doing an internal investigation attempting to identify how TF Hillary got her hands on some of the docs that were found on her email server.
Mistakenly sent with the RSVP to Chelsea's Wedding. Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2022 05:00 PM (/183D) 298
So I guess this means they have bupkis?
_____________________________________ If "bupkis" is Romanian for women's panties, then yes, they have bupkis. Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 10, 2022 05:00 PM (lf83v) 299
When you take a swing at the King, you better not miss. Looks like the Feebs and the DOJ missed big time. Sort of like hitting one's self in the dick with a spiked bat.
Yeah Buddy. I confess that I don't know what it feels like to hit myself in the d*** with a spiked bat. I'd prefer to keep it that way. Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2022 05:00 PM (/NCI4) 300
As I've frequently posted, our saving graces are the incompetence and the infighting
and an almost fanatical devotion to getting Donald Trump. Our three weapons are... Posted by: Archimedes +++ The funny thing is, Trump is actually really, really bad at fighting the Deep State (he did after all make Wray FBI Director) Almost every day of Trump's Presidency was an exercise of him stepping on obvious land mines. But his saving grace is the Dems always go way overboard. This is a perfect example. Posted by: Hylian at August 10, 2022 05:00 PM (YsTC1) 301
Twice today, my comment ended up at #264. Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM For the past year, I always look at the clock at 3:16, either AM/PM. It's bizarre. Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 10, 2022 05:01 PM (sEw6T) 302
Don't disband the FBI. Decapitate it by assigning the entire FBI HQ to either distant shithole embassies or FBI Bureaus in Alaska and pacific Islands.
Replace the FBI with 12 regionally oriented federal police districts, each with its own chief to foster distrust and competition. Make DC and a 100 mile radius a special zone policed by a 5 person board of the 12 chiefs that rotates two new members in every year, and by investigators rotated out every 3 or 4 years. Keep the powers separated and far from DC. The FBI itself? Reassign it to enforcing some thank;less federal laws far from Washington DC, and stop all recruiting. Let it atrophy over the next 20 years until the last FBI Agent retires. Posted by: rd at August 10, 2022 05:01 PM (Z32m1) 303
We are calling a lid. For the rest of the week. It's vacay time for Joey Choo-Choo.
Posted by: Karine Jean Pierre's Brain at August 10, 2022 05:01 PM (1jxCA) 304
I can see why they sealed the warrant. Too embarrassing.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 10, 2022 05:01 PM (lTGtQ) 305
Иди на хуй!
Posted by: Chris Wray! at August 10, 2022 04:49 PM (I2/tG) Ну пиздец! Он обманул нас опять. We're conducting a masterclass on Russian obscenity today! Posted by: Russki Mat'! at August 10, 2022 05:01 PM (I2/tG) 306
Holy Shi+ they are throwing Wray under the bus?!?!?! WTF absolute Clown show. He's gonna take that well. NOT.
Posted by: No Way at August 10, 2022 04:56 PM (C6xeQ) Wray will be pulling down hundreds of thousands in grift-tirement and publishing a million advance book about the horrors of Trump soon enough. Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 10, 2022 05:01 PM (nMx88) 307
Holy Balls Batman, check this Bullshit out:
https://tinyurl.com/2bf7m4s4 Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 10, 2022 04:53 PM (8GBH4) 85,000 new IRS agents. That's five divisions of Infantry. About to be unleashed on the American public. Posted by: Diogenes at August 10, 2022 05:01 PM (anj39) 308
You know, if the entire Biden family is going on vacation together for a week, boarding the AF1 together, I probably wouldn't be hanging out in DC for the time being. Could be going up in a cloud.
Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at August 10, 2022 05:01 PM (QYPq3) 309
>>@MeghanMcCain
This better be legit - or you're making him a martyr and just handing him 2024 on a silver platter. I am so very tired of people characterizing this in political terms. This is not about political teams, it's not about optics or how this helps or harms each side's chances. This is about America becoming a lawless state. This was a moment in which those who had ignored the progression for years were forced to face it. Shut up, Meghan. Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2022 05:01 PM (I/doM) 310
Yeah, president is ultimate declassification control, so he clearly "declassified" before he packed anything plus they were in a SKIF and in a safe? They were there to plant then discover the plant.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at August 10, 2022 05:01 PM (HMTci) 311
> Remember when some NCO was playing "panties on your head" in a prison in Iraq and it was Bush's fault?
Funny how the FBI raiding the former president for no good reason is about to be the exclusive fault of some no body... Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2022 04:53 PM (ESjRY) It was an E-4 specialist, not even a sergeant. Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 10, 2022 05:01 PM (44ww/) 312
No amount of remedial training and PowerPoint is going to fix this fuck-up.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 10, 2022 05:02 PM (BFigT) 313
The warrant is sealed to protect a CONFIDENTIAL INFORMANT.
Posted by: torabora at August 10, 2022 05:02 PM (Y274z) 314
Can anyone clue me in as to when the Head of the National Archives became invested with superseding classification authority and the power to swat once-and-future presidents?
Posted by: Liz Cheney's Rancid Cunt at August 10, 2022 04:58 PM (chL32) --- Yes. Posted by: Karim Abdul-Pierre at August 10, 2022 05:02 PM (krQz2) 315
> The Dems have to get rid of Biden and make way for a new and improved nominee for 2024.
Yeah, but who? Not Commie Lay or Fauxcahontas, that's for sure. ButtJizz is a non-starter, too. Posted by: Eddard Stark at August 10, 2022 05:02 PM (bW8dp) 316
133 There are two people that I guarantee you were in on the decision. One was Garland, the other one is a dementia patient in Washington.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 10, 2022 04:46 PM (lTGtQ) THE Dr Jill: and ruin those clothes!!1!! I HATES HER I DO!! Posted by: Flyover at August 10, 2022 05:02 PM (Rbu5d) 317
I wonder if the sources' name rhymes with Berrick Fartland?
Posted by: motionview, a National Divorcee at August 10, 2022 05:02 PM (knzHR) 318
2. Back in the Crossfire Hurricane times Rhomboid and I argued about this -- I think there had to have been hundreds of people involved in Crossfire Hurricane and he believes it was a lot fewer -- this, similarly, could have been one of those things where a few people instigated it and everyone else involved went along because 1. they might actually find the "smoking gun" and they wanted to be part of it; 2. they believed their chain of command; 3. they were predisposed to believe OrangeManBad; or 4. there was no down side to being involved within the DOJ, but plenty of down side to not being a team player, even if you had misgivings.
Posted by: Caesar North ---------------- FWIW, I agree with you over Rhomboid on this based on what I know about DOJ being dirty. Look up in the Inslaw caper and how Ed Meese, AG under Ronnie Reagan screwed over that small company, stole its case management software and integrated it into spying on Americans via dossier creation. There should be an AG and appointed DA's per district. That is it. Posted by: whig at August 10, 2022 05:02 PM (CXr4y) 319
Any words from Wray at Saranac Lake? Has this interrupted his fishing trip?
You know who else liked to fish who wasn't trusted? Fredo. Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 10, 2022 05:02 PM (lf83v) 320
I'm shocked - shocked - to discover all this child porn on Bill Kristol's computer!
That was Krugman actually Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2022 05:02 PM (ESjRY) 321
I still think this is an HRC op rather than a Biden Junta op. She's still butthurt over 2016 is absolutely desperate to stop Trump. She doesn't want even the remote possibility of him running in 2024.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 10, 2022 05:02 PM (YIVH2) 322
It's like Lord of the Flies.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory ///// Would you believe I used this exact analogy when I worked in a federal government job in KC MO for 3 years? Lord of the Flies was precisely what it was like to work there. Posted by: Prime Sister at August 10, 2022 05:03 PM (tQL7r) 323
For all the hypocrites making an absurd comparison now, 3rd world dictators:
What a hilariously bizarre, cherry-picked list of traits that dictators use. Really? THAT'S what upsets people? The egregious military parades? Not the horrific abuse of power, denial of justice, and murder of political enemies? Not the destruction of liberty, economy, and culture? Its the parades?? Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 05:03 PM (Ivdso) 324
>>>For the past year, I always look at the clock at 3:16, either AM/PM. It's bizarre.
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 10, 2022 05:01 PM (sEw6T) Everlasting life for you? Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at August 10, 2022 05:03 PM (QYPq3) 325
Can anyone clue me in as to when the Head of the National Archives became invested with superseding classification authority and the power to swat once-and-future presidents?
Posted by: Liz Cheney's Rancid Cunt at August 10, 2022 04:58 PM (chL32) ++++ Because the opponent is the Bad Orange Man. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 05:03 PM (WWh8n) 326
BTW - VDH and other are loudly now calling for the disbanding of the FBI on Fox and elsewhere, publicly- its slowly becoming mainstream. The FBI and DOJ are not going to exist as they have in the past going forward if this goes forward at this pace - either they are going to have to choose to be the soviet styled political opponent 'break down your door" Marxist/nazi enforcement brigade they've currently styled themselves after, or they are going to be dismantled, but the hiding or pretending is over.
Posted by: Boswell at August 10, 2022 05:04 PM (+Cgut) 327
This was a pure top down operation. It has all the fingerprints, right down to the wait to see how the public reacts before officially denying culpability.
Never mistake it for a second. Posted by: ... == Consistently making sense for like weeks now. Did you give up drinking cough syrup? Posted by: No Way at August 10, 2022 05:04 PM (7aERQ) 328
Maybe the raid would have polled better if they went in with flash bangs at 0400.
Only one way to find out... Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at August 10, 2022 05:04 PM (/usEq) 329
Should Trump or DeSantis get into the Oval Office, we all would want to see the the FBI, DOJ and CIA burnt to ashes and scattered.
Now - these are supposed to be highly trusted agencies. And these agencies have agents with weapons. After what we have seen of late, I wouldn't trust any of them, not one, with a potato gun. Any other agency in the federal government who has their own police force, swat team, armed agents or the like -- they too must be decommissioned. If we can't trust the upper tier agencies, the Dept of Ed, IRS, etc. shouldn't either. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 10, 2022 05:04 PM (N39Ws) 330
What's the phrase WARCOM mean? It's mentioned in the tv series The Terminal List several times. (I like you guys better than googles) Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 10, 2022 05:04 PM (sEw6T) 331
85,000 new IRS agents. That's five divisions of Infantry. About to be unleashed on the American public.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 10, 2022 05:01 PM (anj39) ===================== The annual increase in the IRS budget is equal to the total revenues of Proctor and Gamble or Sony. This is a massive increase in surveillance and harassment. Posted by: Karine Jean Pierre's Brain at August 10, 2022 05:04 PM (1jxCA) 332
The scotch and cigars were a nice touch after an early supper of marinated mushrooms, tenderloin and a bottle of Belle Glos Balade Pinot Noir.
Posted by: The FBI at August 10, 2022 05:04 PM (WHt4f) 333
Donald Trump Jr. @DonaldJTrumpJr; 3h
"At the end of his presidency, Barack Obama trucked 30 million pages of his administration's records to Chicago... More than five years after Obama's presidency ended, the National Archives webpage reveals that zero pages have been digitized & disclosed." https://nitter.net/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/ 1557421261747363840#m Includes link to NY Post report. Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 10, 2022 05:04 PM (yikp0) Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2022 05:04 PM (/183D) 335
322 Any words from Wray at Saranac Lake? Has this interrupted his fishing trip?
You know who else liked to fish who wasn't trusted? Fredo. Posted by: Adirondack Patriot -------------------- In real life, look up the curious accidental boating death of former CIA director Colby. The curious boating accident of Ghislaine's father, Robert Maxwell, and so on. Boats and water are dangerous if you know too much. Posted by: whig at August 10, 2022 05:05 PM (CXr4y) 336
either they are going to have to choose to be the soviet styled political opponent 'break down your door" Marxist/nazi enforcement brigade they've currently styled themselves after, or they are going to be dismantled, but the hiding or pretending is over.
== Sorry but if you leave the choice to them, you know how that is going to turn out right? Posted by: No Way at August 10, 2022 05:05 PM (7aERQ) Posted by: Crisminal Wray at August 10, 2022 05:05 PM (krQz2) 338
Wonder if it'll be Wrey or some sorry assed GS-14 in the Florida office who nobody has ever heard of who gets the barbed wire, flaming pineapple shoved up their ass sideways.
We will know that GS-14's name pretty soon I think. Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 10, 2022 05:05 PM (BFigT) 339
Wow a huge CYA moment here. What was the old TV show thing about "the secretary will disavow any knowledge of your operation"......
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 10, 2022 05:05 PM (bVYXr) 340
Has anyone found out why Reinhart recused himself in Trump v Clinton?
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 10, 2022 05:05 PM (p15/h) 341
That was Krugman actually
Oh yeah, him too. He had so much stuff, I couldn't believe it. I mean we ran multiple porn sites on TOR for years and we didn't have a fraction of this quantity." --FBI agent retiring and moving into a monastery Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 05:05 PM (Ivdso) 342
>>>The warrant is sealed to protect a CONFIDENTIAL INFORMANT.
Posted by: torabora at August 10, 2022 05:02 PM (Y274z) Madison Cornbread Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at August 10, 2022 05:05 PM (QYPq3) 343
This bikini brunette on the water does not believe for a even a moment that Garland didn't know or that this wasn't a top-down operation:
https://is.gd/lh1a3E Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 05:05 PM (WWh8n) 344
The last few years have made it impossible to re-read classic Clancy (except for Without Remorse).
Posted by: Chuck C at August 10, 2022 05:05 PM (xttsV) 345
There's a part of me that would love to see them imprison Trump (except he would likely die from Post-Traumatic Hyoid Disorder), and he still wins in a landslide destroying the margin of fraud in 2024 whether still there or released.
Kind of our own version of Nelson Mandela ... #OrangeMandelaBad! Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 10, 2022 05:05 PM (QjJsp) 346
Sure, blame the fake federal "judge." But keep in mind it was "agents" who went to that judge, in the first place, with their fake "case" for the search. Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 10, 2022 05:05 PM (sEw6T) 347
The demented progs are everywhere claiming Trump had Ivana killed (they really believe this) and hid documents in her grave at Mar-a-Lago.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 05:05 PM (ptqGC) 348
"Trip to Abilene" = everyone thinks someone else wanted to do this, so they just went along with it and no one asked the obvious questions, but actually no one involved thought it was a good idea
I love that story. Used it in every class of leadership I taught in the Army. Posted by: Diogenes at August 10, 2022 05:05 PM (anj39) 349
I promised to unify America, and I have!
Posted by: Joe Biden of the Round Table at August 10, 2022 05:05 PM (1jxCA) 350
You'd be amazed how many situations can be addressed by a verbal reprimand followed by a fancy dinner.
Posted by: Executive Branch HR at August 10, 2022 05:06 PM (8AONa) 351
The IRS's new army of 87,000 Marxists
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2022 05:06 PM (k8B25) 352
Donald Trump Jr. @DonaldJTrumpJr; 3h
"At the end of his presidency, Barack Obama trucked 30 million pages of his administration's records to Chicago... More than five years after Obama's presidency ended, the National Archives webpage reveals that zero pages have been digitized & disclosed." https://nitter.net/DonaldJTrumpJr/status/ 1557421261747363840#m Includes link to NY Post report. That's because it's more than 30 million pages of receipts for anal lube. Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at August 10, 2022 05:06 PM (Bd6X8) 353
Sure, blame the fake federal "judge."
But keep in mind it was "agents" who went to that judge, in the first place, with their fake "case" for the search. Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 10, 2022 05:05 PM (sEw6T) ++++ I can blame them all. The agents who executed the contrivance, the (probably carefully-shopped) pseudo-judge who signed off on it, the big shots at the top who orchestrated it. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 05:06 PM (WWh8n) 354
INTERESTING. This whole thing may indicate Trump knew he had a spy/traitor in his midst and he set a honey trap for him/she/they/it AND the Federal Stasi. The Smoking Gun was supposed to be in the safe, and they jumped on it. But there was no gun, just a bomb to blow up in their faces. This is straight up Bugs Bunny tactics.
I guess we'll see. Posted by: TheMitch at August 10, 2022 05:06 PM (cDITE) 355
347 This bikini brunette on the water does not believe for a even a moment that Garland didn't know or that this wasn't a top-down operation:
https://is.gd/lh1a3E I'd like to perform a top down operation on her. Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 05:07 PM (mZ3xv) 356
346 >>>The warrant is sealed to protect a CONFIDENTIAL INFORMANT.
Posted by: torabora at August 10, 2022 05:02 PM (Y274z) Madison Cornbread Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at August 10, 2022 05:05 PM (QYPq3) Someone probably shouldn't take walks in any parks. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 10, 2022 05:07 PM (N39Ws) 357
"What did the president know and when did he know it?" "What did the AG know and when did he know it?"
Ah, I just love the oldies. Posted by: Mikey NTH The Outrage Outlet is Stocked With Vexation and Ire. at August 10, 2022 05:07 PM (Kied+) 358
I mean, it wasn't the fake "judge" who pulled this out of his ass. He was merely a willing co-conspirator Tool used by agents employed by the DOJ, Department of Jerkoffs. Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 10, 2022 05:07 PM (sEw6T) 359
The annual increase in the IRS budget is equal to the total revenues of Proctor and Gamble or Sony.
This is a massive increase in surveillance and harassment. Posted by: Karine Jean Pierre's Brain +++ Republicans have always been criticized for not funding the IRS, my guess is when they take back the House, there won't be the funds for a new standing army of IRS agents. But I'm probably overly optimistic. Posted by: Hylian at August 10, 2022 05:07 PM (YsTC1) 360
>> Donald Trump Jr. @DonaldJTrumpJr; 3h
"At the end of his presidency, Barack Obama trucked 30 million pages of his administration's records to Chicago... More than five years after Obama's presidency ended, the National Archives webpage reveals that zero pages have been digitized & disclosed." I mentioned this several times, yesterday. Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2022 05:07 PM (/183D) 361
The demented progs are everywhere claiming Trump had Ivana killed (they really believe this) and hid documents in her grave at Mar-a-Lago.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 05:05 PM (ptqGC) ++++ Seriously? That's a special kind of madness. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 05:07 PM (WWh8n) 362
Guiliani reports the FBI list their key and had to break in the room THEY pad locked.
Posted by: torabora at August 10, 2022 04:58 PM (Y274z) ........ 1st agent: "You seen my keys?" 2nd agent: "No, but I know where they are." 1st agent: "so where are they?" 2nd agent: "Right where you left them." Posted by: wth at August 10, 2022 05:07 PM (v0R5T) 363
Its the parades??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 05:03 PM (Ivdso) Yeah. Talk to IronGrampa. Some folks like parades. And Norman Rockwell paintings. And shouting at the kids to "take that hat off". Posted by: Here I Go Again at August 10, 2022 05:07 PM (EIczM) 364
Another thing that needs to be done on Inauguration Day 2024 is to have the FBI kick down Bill Kristol's door, cuff him and perp-walk him, and, in a civil and orderly way, confiscate all his documents and electronic devices, so we can check them for evidence of crimes. Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2022 04:53 PM (I2/tG) I think you should consider using a taser. Repeatedly. For shits and giggles. Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 10, 2022 05:07 PM (n+4am) 365
NTW
Posted by: Guy who always says "Nothing will happen" and is usually right at August 10, 2022 05:07 PM (sn5EN) 366
Jill wanted to know the labels on Melanias clothes because she resents being dressed like my grandmothers couch?
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at August 10, 2022 05:07 PM (HMTci) 367
I would want to burn everything they touched. Ick.
Posted by: Flyover at August 10, 2022 05:00 PM (Rbu5d) And not just everything they touched Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 05:07 PM (dscaa) 368
NWH
Posted by: Guy who always says "Nothing will happen" and is usually right at August 10, 2022 05:08 PM (sn5EN) 369
And now they look like nutjobs to most of the country.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 04:41 PM (Ivdso) Looks like a replay of the warrant issued against project veritas for the diary. Posted by: 7man at August 10, 2022 05:08 PM (qwO6y) 370
85,000 new IRS agents. That's five divisions of Infantry. About to be unleashed on the American public.
--- Dems are GUARANTEEING that there will be no increase in audits of anyone making less than $400K per year. The CBO says 90% of any additional revenue will be obtained from people making less than $200K per year. Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 10, 2022 05:08 PM (sWM8x) 371
But I'm probably overly optimistic.
Posted by: Hylian at August 10, 2022 05:07 PM (YsTC1) ++++ Definitely. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 05:08 PM (WWh8n) 372
Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!
I called it earlier. Someone is probably sweating bullets, just now realizing they are going to be hung out to dry, because those above them are going to distance themselves from this. Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2022 05:08 PM (fP8pU) 373
252 Holy Balls Batman, check this Bullshit out
"Carry a firearm and be willing to use deadly force, if necessary." Them revenooers are getting out of control! Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 04:56 PM (Ivdso) Armed, politically motivated tax collectors "willing to participate in arrests" being unleashed on an increasingly impoverished and resentful soon-to-be peasantry. Sounds like a good plan. And, if you fucks can just invent money out of thin air, why the fuck are you collecting taxes? Posted by: Erik In Texas at August 10, 2022 05:08 PM (2Jd8G) 374
Sounds like some horny frat boys wanted an excuse to sniff Malenia's panties.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 10, 2022 05:08 PM (Zf0+a) 375
Really doesn't matter if it was Wray or Garland.
People know this started with Biden and Hillary. If I were the GOP, I'd absolutely blast Biden as Nixon II, dementia boogaloo Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 05:08 PM (mZ3xv) 376
Source claims raid order came from low-level front-line National Archivists in the Cincinnati field office.
Posted by: motionview, a National Divorcee at August 10, 2022 05:08 PM (knzHR) 377
Sessions is tanned, rested, and available for the Brandon DOJ job.
Posted by: torabora at August 10, 2022 05:08 PM (Y274z) 378
316 The warrant is sealed to protect a CONFIDENTIAL INFORMANT.
Posted by: torabora --------------------- No, it involves supposedly classified information--they simply mention an informant etc. and that is in the affidavit supporting the warrant, not the warrant itself. Trump's lawyer was interview (Christina Bobb) and she was eventually able to look at the warrant. It involved the National Archives document and a relevant federal law. As mentioned above, the information in dispute was already under FBI lock and key access and the National Archives had already went through the material. Posted by: whig at August 10, 2022 05:09 PM (CXr4y) 379
This was a "cross the Rubicon" moment
Hey there. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 10, 2022 04:59 PM (7B5FA) Hail Caesar, haven't seen you in a bit. been busy getting the legions together? Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsXQ) at August 10, 2022 05:09 PM (WhsXQ) 380
329 BTW - VDH and other are loudly now calling for the disbanding of the FBI on Fox and elsewhere, publicly- its slowly becoming mainstream. The FBI and DOJ are not going to exist as they have in the past going forward if this goes forward at this pace - either they are going to have to choose to be the soviet styled political opponent 'break down your door" Marxist/nazi enforcement brigade they've currently styled themselves after, or they are going to be dismantled, but the hiding or pretending is over.
Posted by: Boswell at August 10, 2022 05:04 PM (+Cgut) Re-upping what I wrote from 2016 to now. They won't shut it down because they can't shut it down. The United States has become a greasy National Security State and the present government itself needs to be dismantled. What just happened is an even trashier version of the USSR military kidnapping Raisa and Mikhail Gorbachev. Shut. It. All. Down. Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 10, 2022 05:09 PM (nMx88) 381
Mueller is tanned, rested, and available for the Brandon FBI job.
Posted by: torabora at August 10, 2022 05:09 PM (Y274z) 382
Guiliani reports the FBI list their key and had to break in the room THEY pad locked.
Posted by: torabora at August 10, 2022 04:58 PM (Y274z) --- Top. Men. Posted by: Axeman at August 10, 2022 05:09 PM (krQz2) 383
The funny thing is, Trump is actually really, really bad at fighting the Deep State (he did after all make Wray FBI Director) Almost every day of Trump's Presidency was an exercise of him stepping on obvious land mines.
But his saving grace is the Dems always go way overboard. This is a perfect example. Posted by: Hylian at August 10, 2022 05:00 PM (YsTC1) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Good GOD am I sick of hearing this tired bullshit. I suppose YOU would have magically known who you could trust and who you couldn't ? Seems to me, Trump had to really on others to help him make those decisions and it becomes clear that not a single one of them was fully trustworthy in that regard. I don't know what magical advisor Trump was supposed to conjure to get pure MAGA inspired suggestions for filling hundreds / thousands of political positions. Even the great McConnell / Federalist judge nominating machine nominated judges loyal only to the establishment that ultimately failed to lift a single finger to advance even one case to litigate the 2020 election. Posted by: deadrody at August 10, 2022 05:09 PM (kYmXc) 384
I would want to burn everything they touched. Ick. Posted by: Flyover at August 10, 2022 05:00 PM (Rbu5d) Melania should. publicly. Except for all the "she should have donated it to charity whining" Posted by: rd at August 10, 2022 05:09 PM (Z32m1) 385
197...and an almost fanatical devotion to getting Donald Trump. Our three weapons are...
Posted by: Archimedes at August 10, 2022 04:51 PM (/NCI4) Could be the funniest MP sketch. BRING IN THE COMFY CHAIR! Posted by: Flyover at August 10, 2022 05:10 PM (Rbu5d) 386
Told my spouse yesterday that Wray was gonna be the one thrown under the bus (and deservedly so).
And he is. He may be the one that ends up not lasting in his job through 2022... Posted by: Nova local at August 10, 2022 05:10 PM (exHjb) 387
Dems are GUARANTEEING that there will be no increase in audits of anyone making less than $400K per year. The CBO says 90% of any additional revenue will be obtained from people making less than $200K per year.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 10, 2022 05:08 PM (sWM8x) ++++ Of course. There aren't many people who earn that much in a year. You sure as hell don't need 87k people to peer up their asses with flashlights. There also aren't many high net worth households (more than $25M in assets). The only reason you could possibly need this many people is if you plan to go after the vast middle and lower-middle. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 05:10 PM (WWh8n) Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 10, 2022 05:10 PM (yikp0) 389
Mistakes were made. More training is mandated.
Posted by: WiNO at August 10, 2022 05:10 PM (EpDzw) 390
348 The last few years have made it impossible to re-read classic Clancy (except for Without Remorse).
Posted by: Chuck C at August 10, 2022 05:05 PM (xttsV) You just got treat it as fantasy/how it should be. Posted by: redchief at August 10, 2022 05:10 PM (LU/A2) 391
What did the president know and when did he stop knowing it?
Posted by: Droolin' Joe Biden! at August 10, 2022 05:10 PM (I2/tG) 392
The demented progs are everywhere claiming Trump had Ivana killed (they really believe this) and hid documents in her grave at Mar-a-Lago.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 05:05 PM (ptqGC) Is this before or after he put chemtrails in their pancakes? Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 05:10 PM (dscaa) 393
It seems CNN still isn't tired of making galactic jackasses of themselves.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 10, 2022 05:10 PM (QSjkU) 394
Most of the powers they used in 2020 are gone. PA is a good example. The no-reason mail in ballots sent to everyone extended from emergency covid powers granted to Governor Wolf. Those emergency powers were rescinded early last year. They can't do that level of cheating again.
Doesn't this contradict that? Pennsylvania's Supreme Court on Tuesday upheld the state’s expansion of mail-in voting, in a case brought by Republican state representatives who voted for the legislation in 2019. https://bityl.co/DlJS Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 10, 2022 05:10 PM (yQpMk) 395
>>I would want to burn everything they touched.
I want to burn the fur off that brunette in the boat. But we rarely get what we want. Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2022 05:11 PM (/183D) 396
We are calling a lid. For the rest of the week. It's vacay time for Joey Choo-Choo.
Posted by: Karine Jean Pierre's Brain at August 10, 2022 05:01 PM (1jxCA) ........ Hope Hunter brings lots of blow. I'm super horny. Posted by: DOCTOR Jill at August 10, 2022 05:11 PM (v0R5T) 397
Additional training is obviously needed, and we will be requesting supplemental funding from Congress.
Posted by: Christopher Wray at August 10, 2022 05:11 PM (1jxCA) 398
Circle Jerk, Nebraska.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 10, 2022 04:56 PM (bW8dp) Huh. We're looking at land nearby. Not far from Gurley. Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at August 10, 2022 05:12 PM (xPJvm) 399
I was just on a Texas Public Policy Conference, and asked, Do the Democrats (and the beltway in general) believe they have the 2022 election under control, or do they not fear repercussions if Republicans win in 2022/24?
The answer was, they dont think they have anything under control, they are panicking, and they are more afraid of Donald Trump than of congress. FYLTGE is all I have to say. Well, the start of what I have to say. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 10, 2022 05:12 PM (U+Oxn) 400
Is this before or after he put chemtrails in their pancakes?
Te be fair, they do taste better that way. Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at August 10, 2022 05:12 PM (Bd6X8) 401
That's because it's more than 30 million pages of receipts for anal lube.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at August 10, 2022 05:06 PM (Bd6X --- So now we know who has really been spreading monkeypox...dude gets around! Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 10, 2022 05:12 PM (YIVH2) 402
Good GOD am I sick of hearing this tired bullshit. I suppose YOU would have magically known who you could trust and who you couldn't ?
Posted by: deadrody +++ Its really not that hard, drain the swamp. Don't promote from within. First thing Trump does when he wins? Begs Comey to stay on. You really think it takes omniscence to see what a mistake that is? Then promote his right hand man? Dumb, dumb, dumb Posted by: Hylian at August 10, 2022 05:12 PM (YsTC1) 403
That's because it's more than 30 million pages of receipts for anal lube.
------------------------- And the boxes were slippery! Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 10, 2022 05:12 PM (yikp0) 404
I don't blame Joe. Joe was probably busy getting his arms through his coat at the time.
Posted by: Axeman at August 10, 2022 05:12 PM (krQz2) 405
Exclusive: Whistleblower Names Another FBI Official Who Allegedly Pressured Agents to Pad Domestic Extremism Stats
https://tinyurl.com/4j6734sb Posted by: redridinghood at August 10, 2022 05:12 PM (NpAcC) 406
>>Even the great McConnell / Federalist judge nominating machine nominated judges loyal only to the establishment that ultimately fai
All of Trump's cabinet level positions had to be approved by McConnell's Senate. People sometimes seem to forget that anyone who McConnell didn't approve of wasn't getting a job. Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2022 05:13 PM (ZLI7S) 407
351 The demented progs are everywhere claiming Trump had Ivana killed (they really believe this) and hid documents in her grave at Mar-a-Lago.
Posted by: Jane D'oh ----------------------- Dementia praecox in action. The insane leading the sane into their world of insanity. Posted by: whig at August 10, 2022 05:13 PM (CXr4y) 408
Between this and serving as Christie's consigliere during Bridgegate, Wray seems to be the preeminent scumbag you go to when you want to abuse government power to harass your political opponents.
Posted by: Liz Cheney's Rancid Cunt at August 10, 2022 05:13 PM (chL32) 409
@julie_kelly2
Remember folks, The same FBI that ran an informant at Trump's residence and concocted a plot to kidnap and kill 2 governors had NOTHING TO DO with January 6. Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 05:13 PM (ptqGC) 410
I predict that there will be a huge, really bigly, drug bust by the FBI. Totally taking all this recent unpleasantness off the headlines, and the media will shower the feds with glorious acclaim for being the vanguard of American safety.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 10, 2022 05:13 PM (anj39) Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at August 10, 2022 05:13 PM (Bd6X8) 412
I don't blame Joe. Joe was probably busy getting his arms through his coat at the time.
Posted by: Axeman HA! Posted by: Bruce at August 10, 2022 05:13 PM (vd8XM) 413
The CBO says 90% of any additional revenue will be obtained from people making less than $200K per year.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Of course, because obviously the CBO would be the government entity with the best info on who is or isn't submitting the most accurate tax returns. Posted by: deadrody at August 10, 2022 05:14 PM (kYmXc) 414
Yeah, CNN went all in on this being the Rosetta Stone of Trump's downfall.
Maddow said everyone should buy a newspaper to document the day Trump was finally caught. These people are psychotic. Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 05:14 PM (mZ3xv) 415
Even the great McConnell / Federalist judge nominating machine nominated judges loyal only to the establishment that ultimately failed to lift a single finger to advance even one case to litigate the 2020 election.
Posted by: deadrody at August 10, 2022 05:09 PM (kYmXc) Something tells me McConnell was up to his neck in this despicable trash. He will be gone soon. I also hope a list of agents directly involved along with their addresses is published so people can say "howdy" if they are so inclined. There has to be a price paid even by the foot soldiers. Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 10, 2022 05:14 PM (nMx88) 416
412 @julie_kelly2
Remember folks, The same FBI that ran an informant at Trump's residence and concocted a plot to kidnap and kill 2 governors had NOTHING TO DO with January 6. Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 05:13 PM (ptqGC) Who was the 2nd gov? Posted by: redchief at August 10, 2022 05:14 PM (LU/A2) Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 05:14 PM (XIJ/X) 418
Will this turn of events finally wipe the smirk off Wray's face?
Posted by: JuJuBee, fact checker hammered by events at August 10, 2022 05:14 PM (8Lklg) 419
Fire everyone involved, the agents, the AG, everyone.
Then fire the rest of the FBI. Yes, including the crime lab. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 10, 2022 05:14 PM (XvPQV) 420
This is a case where almost everyone believes "The President knew nothing of this".
Yeah, it's easy to believe that. We believe sometimes the President doesn't know what city he is in. We believe he might have been thinking of ice cream at the time. Posted by: Axeman at August 10, 2022 05:14 PM (krQz2) 421
And, and to Boswells comment, disbanding the FBI was one of the starting points on the TPPF call. That would have been unthinkable last week.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 10, 2022 05:14 PM (U+Oxn) 422
>>Exclusive: Whistleblower Names Another FBI Official Who Allegedly Pressured Agents to Pad Domestic Extremism Stats
Jill Sanborn is the former FBI official who refused to say if or how many FBI assets might have been at the Capitol on Jan 6th. Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2022 05:14 PM (ZLI7S) 423
And he is. He may be the one that ends up not lasting in his job through 2022...
His replacement will be just as bad if not worse. Posted by: jewells45 at August 10, 2022 05:14 PM (nxdel) 424
Caesar I don't remember disputing that (speculative) detail of Crossfire Hurricane with you, but wasn't it a "headquarters special" (in FBI insider parlance)? Run by the CI part of the Washington field office together with HQ? Which would imply a pretty small footprint in terms of personnel.
In any case, are we ever going to have a serious, as in criminal, investigation of that whole outrageous Keystone Coup attempt? Isn't it now confirmed public knowledge that the related FISA warrants were fraudulently obtained, just for starters? And the basic premise of the entire thing was false? (not that it wasn't obviously ridiculous, on its face, the instant it appeared, and that there's no excuse for anyone taking it seriously at any point) Posted by: rhomboid at August 10, 2022 05:14 PM (OTzUX) Posted by: JuJuBee, fact checker hammered by events at August 10, 2022 05:15 PM (8Lklg) 426
The Whitmer Kidnapping False Flag was a Shake-n-Bake October Surprise.
Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2022 05:15 PM (/183D) 427
409 >>Even the great McConnell / Federalist judge nominating machine nominated judges loyal only to the establishment that ultimately fai
All of Trump's cabinet level positions had to be approved by McConnell's Senate. People sometimes seem to forget that anyone who McConnell didn't approve of wasn't getting a job. Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2022 05:13 PM (ZLI7S) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Exactly Posted by: deadrody at August 10, 2022 05:15 PM (kYmXc) 428
Oh, forgot.
Grand jury? Prosecutor? There's a criminal investigation of this, in the FL southern district? WTF? Isn't that the "news" here? Posted by: rhomboid at August 10, 2022 05:15 PM (OTzUX) 429
From "cheering in the oval office" to "we didn't even know"
Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 10, 2022 05:15 PM (OuH7W) Posted by: Commentor What Got a Shirt at August 10, 2022 05:15 PM (5s/s5) 431
All of Trump's cabinet level positions had to be approved by McConnell's Senate. People sometimes seem to forget that anyone who McConnell didn't approve of wasn't getting a job.
Posted by: JackStraw Then Trump is a chicken shit. Let McConnell repeatedly vote down Trump picks and see how he fares next election. Did Trump try and buck him one time? He made sure his ChiCom wife got a cush job in his Administration. Again, lets just make McConnell the GOP nominee in 2024 since he controls everything anyway. Posted by: Hylian at August 10, 2022 05:15 PM (YsTC1) 432
I wonder how much Judicial Watch had to do with speeding along the news of "no there there". God bless them.
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 05:15 PM (dscaa) 433
358 INTERESTING. This whole thing may indicate Trump knew he had a spy/traitor in his midst and he set a honey trap for him/she/they/it AND the Federal Stasi. The Smoking Gun was supposed to be in the safe, and they jumped on it. But there was no gun, just a bomb to blow up in their faces. This is straight up Bugs Bunny tactics.
OrangeManBad lied to an FBI Informant!!!! OMG! Impeach! Convict! Bar from running for office! Hang, Draw, and Quarter Him! Make his wife a White House kitchen slave! Kill his son! Posted by: JoeMika and Nicolle 'Chipmunk Cheeks' Wallace at August 10, 2022 05:15 PM (AMIL/) 434
Chances of 85k new IRS goons unleashed on the public I rate as just about zero.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 10, 2022 05:15 PM (QSjkU) 435
This fiasco is why you never delegate to retards. Thankfully the FBI is staffed by nothing but.
Speaking of retards... any word from the GOP on this development? Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 10, 2022 05:15 PM (BFigT) 436
As a certain sort of distraction, a PhD student at University of Manchester is writing all about how he's started watching little boy erotica Japanese animation ("shota"). And fapping to it.
This is written up in the academic journal Qualitative Research, summarized by David Thompson: https://tinyurl.com/2p9y7pvb Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 05:15 PM (Ivdso) 437
419 412 @julie_kelly2
Remember folks, The same FBI that ran an informant at Trump's residence and concocted a plot to kidnap and kill 2 governors had NOTHING TO DO with January 6. Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 05:13 PM (ptqGC) Who was the 2nd gov? Posted by: redchief at August 10, 2022 05:14 PM (LU/A2) VA's - it didn't go anywhere, but they were trying to pump Dem turnout... Posted by: Nova local at August 10, 2022 05:15 PM (exHjb) 438
What next?
Will Grassley beg Wray to come back to the Senate so he can moon them again Candyass GOP Posted by: FIB = KGB at August 10, 2022 05:16 PM (ZGlod) 439
"I remember her being allowed to keep the emails as long as she liked, and then to destroy them, without any consequences."
I remember her being able to keep the raw FBI files in the WH as long as she liked without any consequences. Posted by: Pascal at August 10, 2022 05:16 PM (2cFqN) 440
The FIB decided on its own via a US Atty in FL that it wanted to open up pandora's box on "hassle former Presidents"
Sure. Posted by: sven at August 10, 2022 05:16 PM (Lzpvj) 441
More than five years after Obama's presidency ended, the National Archives webpage reveals that zero pages have been digitized & disclosed."
I mentioned this several times, yesterday. Posted by: garrett == Yeah, but at the time, you were wearing crocs. Posted by: Shrugs at August 10, 2022 05:16 PM (j8852) 442
The funny thing is, Trump is actually really, really bad at fighting the Deep State (he did after all make Wray FBI Director) Almost every day of Trump's Presidency was an exercise of him stepping on obvious land mines.
Posted by: Hylian at August 10, 2022 05:00 PM (YsTC1) ________________________ Good GOD am I sick of hearing this tired bullshit. I suppose YOU would have magically known who you could trust and who you couldn't ? Seems to me, Trump had to really on others to help him make those decisions and it becomes clear that not a single one of them was fully trustworthy in that regard. I don't know what magical advisor Trump was supposed to conjure to get pure MAGA inspired suggestions for filling hundreds / thousands of political positions. Posted by: deadrody ____________________ He's right about Wray. There was plenty of warning at the time of the appointment that he was a terrible choice. Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 10, 2022 05:16 PM (es0Dj) 443
Of course. There aren't many people who earn that much in a year. You sure as hell don't need 87k people to peer up their asses with flashlights. There also aren't many high net worth households (more than $25M in assets). The only reason you could possibly need this many people is if you plan to go after the vast middle and lower-middle.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 05:10 PM ebay, etsy and amazon sellers are going to be under a microscope soon. Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 10, 2022 05:16 PM (bVYXr) 444
Barky's "civilian national security force" otherwise known as an expanded and armed IRS.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 10, 2022 05:16 PM (g6x3Z) 445
Winter is coming.
Posted by: Eddard Stark at August 10, 2022 0 *** I've been hearing this for 15 years. Did your anticipated "winter" ever arrive???? Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 10, 2022 05:16 PM (J2vNu) 446
The DOJ and FBI had reliable intel that Ivanka was laundering her perfume money and stashing it at Mar El Lago.
Posted by: wth at August 10, 2022 05:16 PM (v0R5T) 447
The Whitmer Kidnapping False Flag was a Shake-n-Bake October Surprise.
One of defendants lawyers in that case is now claiming an FBI informant planted "bomb making material" in his client's pickup for the FBI to happen by later and find. Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at August 10, 2022 05:17 PM (Bd6X8) 448
I wonder how much Judicial Watch had to do with speeding along the news of "no there there". God bless them.
I remain amazed at how on-target they seem to have remained, given how long theyve been in existence. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 10, 2022 05:17 PM (U+Oxn) 449
Could this whole thing be a head fake to get potential donors/backers of Trump '24 to demur ahead of time, thus costing him the WH? Because if there wasn't some grand plan for this result (assuming they don't produce some bombshell) then someone really misread the room here. It's like a firing a nuke then responding with a palms up shoulder shrug and a "whoopsies!" - misread the outcome indeed. Still doesn't make any sense.
Posted by: volfan at August 10, 2022 05:17 PM (Uq3XK) 450
James Comey, the seventh Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, was fired by U.S. President Donald Trump on May 9, 2017.
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 10, 2022 05:17 PM (yikp0) 451
358 INTERESTING. This whole thing may indicate Trump knew he had a spy/traitor in his midst ...
Posted by: TheMitch I don't think Jared would do such a thing. Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 10, 2022 05:17 PM (m7R0k) 452
>>Then Trump is a chicken shit.
LOL. Now that is just stupid. Trump is a lot of things but chicken shit is obviously not one of them. Guy has a bigger pay than the rest of DC combined. Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2022 05:17 PM (ZLI7S) 453
These people are psychotic.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 05:14 PM (mZ3xv) Didn't they do that with the last 572 ops? Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 05:17 PM (dscaa) 454
Even the great McConnell / Federalist judge nominating machine
Fun fact: Chris Wray is a member of the Federalist Society. (According to Wikipedia.) Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2022 05:17 PM (I2/tG) 455
There's no question that Trump made a series of very bad personnel choices in his first years. I don't think he honestly believed he was going to win and was not ready when it happened. So he was caught off guard and relied on people he thought he could trust, when he should not have.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 05:17 PM (Ivdso) 456
Maddow said everyone should buy a newspaper to document the day Trump was finally caught.
These people are psychotic. Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 05:14 PM (mZ3xv) --- Volunteer Pravda were high-fiving the night of the Buzzfeed release about the pee-pee tape. The delirium died down as normal people started to examine the material and guffaw at them. Posted by: Axeman at August 10, 2022 05:18 PM (krQz2) 457
Good GOD am I sick of hearing this tired bullshit. I suppose YOU would have magically known who you could trust and who you couldn't ?
Yeah. It's not that hard, really. The dude that says " whatever you say, boss" - don't trust him. The dude that doesn't shave, looks bad in a suit, but has the balls the maybe speak up now and then - Bannon ? Don't fire him first. The fat guy with the big jaws that won't dismiss the Senate for four years ? Don't trust him, either. It's really, really, not that fucking hard. Posted by: Here I Go Again at August 10, 2022 05:18 PM (EIczM) 458
Mistakes were made. More training is mandated.
Time to form a committte to investigate the process!! Posted by: runner at August 10, 2022 05:18 PM (2igD3) 459
Fire everyone involved, the agents, the AG, everyone.
Then fire the rest of the FBI. Yes, including the crime lab. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 10, 2022 05:14 PM (XvPQV) *** This. Every agent involved in this from the top to the newest guy driving the van should be fired. Hell, one of the first classes we give new officers in the Army is Duty, Responsibility and Authority. Even a dumb-assed 22 year old 2nd Lieutenant knows that he/she can refuse an illegal order. Posted by: Diogenes at August 10, 2022 05:18 PM (anj39) 460
Could this whole thing be a head fake to get potential donors/backers of Trump '24 to demur ahead of time, thus costing him the WH? Because if there wasn't some grand plan for this result (assuming they don't produce some bombshell) then someone really misread the room here. It's like a firing a nuke then responding with a palms up shoulder shrug and a "whoopsies!" - misread the outcome indeed. Still doesn't make any sense.
If that was the intent they fucked that up, too. "Record breaking" fundraising for Trump was reported yesterday. Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at August 10, 2022 05:18 PM (Bd6X8) 461
The guys in the FBI PR department are sweating, trying to come up with something, anything, to take the rubes' minds off this latest fuck up. I wouldn't be going to any outdoor events in Vegas in the near future.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 10, 2022 05:18 PM (lz5hY) 462
The Trump Curse is about to claim a few more victims.
Posted by: JuJuBee, fact checker hammered by events at August 10, 2022 05:18 PM (8Lklg) 463
The Trump Curse.
It is real. Posted by: nurse ratched It kind of reminds me of how blizzards followed Al Gore on his global warmening tour. But in reverse. Posted by: She Hobbit at August 10, 2022 05:19 PM (ftFVW) Posted by: There are things you can do to deal with your disappointment with your father that are constructive at August 10, 2022 05:19 PM (7aERQ) 465
Who was the 2nd gov?
Posted by: redchief at August 10, 2022 05:14 PM (LU/A2) ***** Gov. Northam. Posted by: redridinghood at August 10, 2022 05:19 PM (NpAcC) 466
Quick! Put Wray in a red dress and update his pronouns on Facebook!
Posted by: FBI PR Dept. at August 10, 2022 05:19 PM (8Lklg) 467
I don't know who needs to know this but...
*looks around* Wynona Ryder was a dirty, dirty whore. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 10, 2022 05:19 PM (XvPQV) 468
458 There's no question that Trump made a series of very bad personnel choices in his first years. I don't think he honestly believed he was going to win and was not ready when it happened. So he was caught off guard and relied on people he thought he could trust, when he should not have.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 05:17 PM (Ivdso) You fucked up. You trusted us!! Posted by: Otter? Commentor What Got a Shirt at August 10, 2022 05:19 PM (5s/s5) 469
All of Trump's cabinet level positions had to be approved by McConnell's Senate. People sometimes seem to forget that anyone who McConnell didn't approve of wasn't getting a job.
Which is why eliminating McConnell from the equation is as important as any other consideration. Posted by: Methos at August 10, 2022 05:19 PM (kOpft) 470
This CNN and MSNBC contributor needs to cry harder:
@RonFilipkowski Republicans now want to abolish the FBI, CIA, IRS, Dept of Ed, impeach the President, VP, DHS Sect and AG, put the NIH Director in prison, and its only Tuesday. Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 05:20 PM (ptqGC) 471
Last night Hannity said that the number of "Good FBI Agents" has dropped from 98% to 95%.
Posted by: wth at August 10, 2022 05:20 PM (v0R5T) 472
Wisdom from AllahPundit:
Only in this nihilistic autocratic cult of a party could a federal search warrant being served on a candidate make him more appealing to voters rather than less. A True Conservative! Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2022 05:20 PM (I2/tG) 473
I don't know who needs to know this but...
*looks around* Wynona Ryder was a dirty, dirty whore. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 10, 2022 05:19 PM (XvPQV) Dear Lord. Do you know who you've just summoned? Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 05:20 PM (ptqGC) 474
Last night Hannity said that the number of "Good FBI Agents" has dropped from 98% to 95%.
I think he confused that with his PulseOx. Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at August 10, 2022 05:21 PM (Bd6X8) 475
>>Which is why eliminating McConnell from the equation is as important as any other consideration.
I'd be thrilled but I don't see it happening baring something out of left field. Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2022 05:21 PM (ZLI7S) 476
INTERESTING. This whole thing may indicate Trump knew he had a spy/traitor in his midst ...
Posted by: TheMitch Maybe not. I can see it now. Barron: "Hey Mom, watch this!" Posted by: Diogenes at August 10, 2022 05:21 PM (anj39) 477
474 Last night Hannity said that the number of "Good FBI Agents" has dropped from 98% to 95%.
Posted by: wth at August 10, 2022 05:20 PM (v0R5T Spoken like a man caught with KP on his phone. Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 05:21 PM (mZ3xv) 478
Dear Lord. Do you know who you've just summoned?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 05:20 PM (ptqGC) Bwa ha ha *eats popcorn* Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 10, 2022 05:21 PM (XvPQV) 479
@rhomboid, what we disagreed about were how many people were involved in CH. I thought it had to have been hundreds, given the scale of it, and you thought it could have been done with a tighter team. Water under the bridge. Bottom line is that, as best we know, none of them has come forward.
As for your other point, I think the ball is 100% in Durham's court, and it looks to me like his mission is to protect the institution and blame it all on the politicians and Fusion GPS. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 10, 2022 05:21 PM (7B5FA) 480
465 The Trump Curse is about to claim a few more victims.
Posted by: JuJuBee, fact checker hammered by events at August 10, 2022 05:18 PM (8Lklg) The personal destruction of the ringleader Obama along with his step-'n-fetchits Biden and McConnell will suffice. I'm betting this fell apart because McConnell was involved up to his neck and got scared the rubes were onto this bullshit. People need to be EXECUTED. Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 10, 2022 05:21 PM (nMx88) 481
Then Trump is a chicken shit.
Posted by: Hylian at August 10, 2022 05:15 PM (YsTC1 --- We should have all wrote in your name. *makes jack-off gesture* Posted by: Axeman at August 10, 2022 05:22 PM (krQz2) 482
Don't go after the King if you can't do it in one shot.
You won't get a second. Posted by: Bosk at August 10, 2022 05:22 PM (v4L7Y) 483
There's no question that Trump made a series of very bad personnel choices in his first years. I don't think he honestly believed he was going to win and was not ready when it happened. So he was caught off guard and relied on people he thought he could trust, when he should not have.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 05:17 PM Yes Trump was not prepared to win, by his own admission he claimed just days before the election that he was not going to win but he gave it a good run. Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 10, 2022 05:22 PM (bVYXr) 484
It kind of reminds me of how blizzards followed Al Gore on his global warmening tour. But in reverse.
Posted by: She Hobbit at August 10, 2022 05:19 PM (ftFVW) That was funny as hell. Forgot about that. Posted by: Jordan61 at August 10, 2022 05:22 PM (DRSnL) 485
Last night Hannity said that the number of "Good FBI Agents" has dropped from 98% to 95%.
I know better than to doubt a martial arts expert who also painted houses back in the day, and can also throw a tight spiral to a great american. Spoiler Alert - fuck him. Posted by: Here I Go Again at August 10, 2022 05:22 PM (EIczM) 486
339 322 Any words from Wray at Saranac Lake? Has this interrupted his fishing trip?
You know who else liked to fish who wasn't trusted? Fredo. Posted by: Adirondack Patriot -------------------- In real life, look up the curious accidental boating death of former CIA director Colby. The curious boating accident of Ghislaine's father, Robert Maxwell, and so on. Boats and water are dangerous if you know too much. Posted by: whig at August 10, 2022 05:05 PM (CXr4y) IF. ONLY. IT. COULD. HAPPEN! Posted by: rd at August 10, 2022 05:22 PM (Z32m1) 487
If that was the intent they fucked that up, too. "Record breaking" fundraising for Trump was reported yesterday.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at August 10, 2022 05:18 PM (Bd6X --- Probably because small donors are going to flock to him in droves. They may throw their life savings at Trump rather than wait for it to be seized by FJB's IRS... Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 10, 2022 05:23 PM (YIVH2) 488
>>>This is a case where almost everyone believes "The President knew nothing of this".
============ Horseshit. Dementia is no defense. The guy supposes himself to be President of the country; he can't claim the fuzzy-brain defense. Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2022 05:23 PM (e7Xvk) 489
How do we know the progs or FBI didn't push Ivana down the stairs to pressure the Orangeman to release the documents?
Posted by: The FBI at August 10, 2022 05:23 PM (WHt4f) 490
Local news is trying to obfuscate the hell out of the raid, while playing the hell out of his taking the 5th in NY.
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at August 10, 2022 05:23 PM (diceA) 491
293 216 MN-1 last night was not good news for the GOP.
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 04:53 PM (OalnH) Your concern is noted, Moo Moo. Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 10, 2022 05:23 PM (Qhnrt) 492
Last night Hannity said that the number of "Good FBI Agents" has dropped from 98% to 95%.
Posted by: wth at August 10, 2022 05:20 PM (v0R5T Spoken like a man caught with KP on his phone. Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 05:21 PM (mZ3xv) --- Bongino later countered that he was done with the "rank and file bullshit". "If you answered phones", Bongino qualified, and said if you were any part of this, you should resign in disgrace. Posted by: Axeman at August 10, 2022 05:24 PM (krQz2) 493
Merrick Garland tomorrow:
"We did not find the documents Trump is required to give to the National Archives. Our dedicated FBI agents will continue efforts to locate them, with or without Trump's help. "By happenstance, an FBI agent did see in plain sight on Trump's desk, a document in Trump's handwriting, detailing his entire plan to overthrow the US Government on January 6, 2021. I will indict him for rebellion tomorrow." Posted by: Gref at August 10, 2022 05:24 PM (AMIL/) Posted by: DB at August 10, 2022 05:24 PM (geLO8) 495
What I don't get is the anxiety over retrieving some pieces of paper. Haven't these people heard of photography? Or smart phones? Do they think that retrieving a piece of paper makes the document somehow vanish - that no copy of it might exist on a thumb drive buried in somebody's backyard?
No, this wasn't about retrieving documents. This was about ransacking Trump's home to look for something, anything, that they might use against him. They're fools of course - Trump has had people trying to get dirt on him for 40 years. If the FBI and the DOJ think they're somehow cleverer than the ambulance chasers at the National Enquirer ... well, they're not. Posted by: Nemo at August 10, 2022 05:24 PM (S6ArX) 496
Last night Hannity said that the number of "Good FBI Agents" has dropped from 98% to 95%.
I know better than to doubt a martial arts expert who also painted houses back in the day, and can also throw a tight spiral to a great american. Spoiler Alert - fuck him. Posted by: Here I Go Again at August 10, 2022 05:22 PM (EIczM) Sean Hannity has become the Jim Cramer of Political Punditry. Always Sure. Always Wrong. Posted by: rd at August 10, 2022 05:25 PM (Z32m1) 497
Only in this nihilistic autocratic cult of a party could a federal search warrant being served on a candidate make him more appealing to voters rather than less.
A True Conservative! Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2022 05:20 PM (I2/tG) I don't pay attention to anything leftards say, but my shit has a higher intellect and more integrity than this cockgobbling retard. Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 05:25 PM (dscaa) 498
Wynona Ryder was a dirty, dirty whore.
She's in my spank bank. She's really good in Stranger Things. I'd cuddle with her. Posted by: Here I Go Again at August 10, 2022 05:25 PM (EIczM) 499
Horseshit. Dementia is no defense.
The guy supposes himself to be President of the country; he can't claim the fuzzy-brain defense. Posted by: Huck Follywood Yeah, how does anyone in the administration think "well I didn't know" makes it somehow better. I mean, does that mean you're admitting the underlings are running amok? Morons, not in the good way. Posted by: She Hobbit at August 10, 2022 05:25 PM (ftFVW) 500
One of defendants lawyers in that case is now claiming an FBI informant planted "bomb making material" in his client's pickup for the FBI to happen by later and find. Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at August 10, 2022 05:17 PM (Bd6X
Speaking of which, what's happening with the manhunt for person who put the backpacks where they could be found outside the DNC and RNC on J6? Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 10, 2022 05:25 PM (7B5FA) 501
Fire every employee of the FBI and take away their pensions.
That is the minimum. Obviously, many of them will have to be prosecuted and face prison time. Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 10, 2022 05:25 PM (lTGtQ) 502
Good GOD am I sick of hearing this tired bullshit.
Posted by: deadrody at August 10, 2022 05:09 PM (kYmXc) Calmly, calmly. Exact same language posted yesterday, with a different, new nick Glowie or paid troll trying to get us to fight. Posted by: Kindltot at August 10, 2022 05:25 PM (xhaym) 503
"One of defendants lawyers in that case is now claiming an FBI informant planted "bomb making material" in his client's pickup for the FBI to happen by later and find."
probably true, but even if it was not, it is a good defense. Because our corrupt FBI Fits the Profile, and has a long rap sheet for such behavior. (well, it is rapped about here, so that is the rap sheet). Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2022 05:25 PM (Cus5s) 504
>>> I'd be thrilled but I don't see it happening baring something out of left field.
~~~~~ The only way to take him out before his term is up is to expose his connections to the CCP. Posted by: IrishEi at August 10, 2022 05:25 PM (3ImbR) 505
Where Trump clearly did not rely on the cronies to fill offices, it went extremely well, such as Secretary of Education DeVos. As time went on, Trump got much better at filling positions but yeah he didn't do real well at the DOJ.
I suspect that he had stars in his eyes about the feds just like many or most of us had in the past. They're the top cops, the best of the best, with integrity and professionalism! Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 05:25 PM (Ivdso) 506
Trump had to nominate someone that would be approved by that dysfunctional gerontocracy we call the Senate.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, fasting at August 10, 2022 05:25 PM (jTmQV) 507
The inescapable stench of feculent corruption attaches itself to everything FBI/DOJ does. This backtracking and excuse-making now of course blows holes in the benefit-of-the-doubt, let's wait-and-see-how-it-plays-out narrative I've seen from so many squish republicans and podcasters.
Others knew better and didn't equivocate for one second. Posted by: Ordinary American at August 10, 2022 05:25 PM (H8QX8) 508
Hillary is a different matter. Tough choice, but I'd spare her for various reasons. I would though, sentence her to a very strict exile, never again to leave the City Limits of Hope, Arkansas, for the remainder of her miserable life.
I learned my cruelty from Ace, the Master. Hope it'll be up to VDH's standards? _________ What did the people of Hope, Arkansas, ever do to you to merit such vicious cruelty? Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at August 10, 2022 05:25 PM (MvHI3) 509
Democrats plan gotchas with the same incompetency they govern with.
The only thing they have going for them is that Satan is on their side. Posted by: Axeman at August 10, 2022 05:26 PM (krQz2) 510
This CNN and MSNBC contributor needs to cry harder:
@RonFilipkowski Republicans now want to abolish the FBI, CIA, IRS, Dept of Ed, impeach the President, VP, DHS Sect and AG, put the NIH Director in prison, and its only Tuesday. Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 05:20 PM (ptqGC) It.Moved. Though the absence of salting is disappointing. Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 10, 2022 05:26 PM (yQpMk) 511
@RonFilipkowski
Republicans now want to abolish the FBI, CIA, IRS, Dept of Ed, impeach the President, VP, DHS Sect and AG, put the NIH Director in prison, and its only Tuesday. Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 05:20 PM (ptqGC) ================= He's not wrong. It's going to be a busy week. Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2022 05:26 PM (e7Xvk) Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 05:26 PM (XIJ/X) 513
"the information in dispute was already under FBI lock and key access and the National Archives had already went through the material."
Thanks whig for that very key pertinent info. I'm trying to imagine requesting a warrant for this situation. Doesn't sound remotely plausible that one could argue for a warrant given these facts. Only that there was some credible fear of movement or destruction of the documents - which itself is impossible to imagine. Posted by: rhomboid at August 10, 2022 05:26 PM (OTzUX) 514
While at it, IRS needs Strikers, Bradleys, Blackhawks, mortar teams and a few fixed wing aircraft, maybe A-10s
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2022 05:26 PM (k8B25) 515
Local news is trying to obfuscate the hell out of the raid, while playing the hell out of his taking the 5th in NY.
== Disinfo/ influence operation that exploded in there face. They have to either go even harder at it and try to establish criminality, and indictment, or apologize. And this looks like they are passing the hot potato on who is going to do the apologizing. Wray is holding the potato right now. What's he gonna do . . . Posted by: Idiots - Complete Fucking Clowns at August 10, 2022 05:27 PM (RI4e5) 516
MN-1 last night was not good news for the GOP.
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 04:53 PM MN is Minnesota, correct? The one state that voted for Mondale over Reagan? What good news for the GOP would ever come out of Minnesota? Posted by: Chuck C at August 10, 2022 05:27 PM (xttsV) 517
This CNN and MSNBC contributor needs to cry harder:
@RonFilipkowski Republicans now want to abolish the FBI, CIA, IRS, Dept of Ed, impeach the President, VP, DHS Sect and AG, put the NIH Director in prison, and its only Tuesday. Posted by: Jane D'oh He neglected to include CNN and MSNBC. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Summer of Our Discontent n at August 10, 2022 05:27 PM (FVME7) 518
If you were Trump, would you want the job as President?
I don't know why he does it. He's going to have to fire the entire government and do nothing but try and pass laws limiting the federal power, which the GOP will fight till their dying breath. Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 05:27 PM (mZ3xv) 519
I'm betting this fell apart because McConnell was involved up to his neck and got scared the rubes were onto this bullshit.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 10, 2022 05:21 PM (nMx8 Agree. McConnell knew and was involved. Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 10, 2022 05:27 PM (Qhnrt) 520
And he is. He may be the one that ends up not lasting in his job through 2022...
Posted by: Nova local ---------------------- Wray has the goods on Biden is why Biden would let a weakened Wray stay on. Posted by: whig at August 10, 2022 05:27 PM (CXr4y) 521
I see our clown is back.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 10, 2022 05:27 PM (yQpMk) 522
458 There's no question that Trump made a series of very bad personnel choices in his first years. I don't think he honestly believed he was going to win and was not ready when it happened. So he was caught off guard and relied on people he thought he could trust, when he should not have.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 05:17 PM (Ivdso) Christie was in charge of a lot of personnel planning, Trump found out he was going to staff everything with cronies and canned him relatively late in the process and had to improvise a lot from there. That's not so much the long-term problem though and many first-wave picks were fine(likely because the President is afforded more deference in this stage typically). Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 10, 2022 05:27 PM (b2nrj) 523
Republicans now want to abolish the FBI, CIA, IRS, Dept of Ed, impeach the President, VP, DHS Sect and AG, put the NIH Director in prison, and its only Tuesday.
I mean, that would be a good start. Posted by: Methos at August 10, 2022 05:28 PM (kOpft) 524
>>@RonFilipkowski
Republicans now want to abolish the FBI, CIA, IRS, Dept of Ed, impeach the President, VP, DHS Sect and AG, put the NIH Director in prison, and its only Tuesday. In other words, 'drain the swamp?' Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2022 05:28 PM (I/doM) 525
Glowie or paid troll trying to get us to fight.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 10, 2022 05:25 PM (xhaym) Joke's on them. We're too gay to fight. Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 05:28 PM (dscaa) 526
473 This CNN and MSNBC contributor needs to cry harder:
@RonFilipkowski Republicans now want to abolish the FBI, CIA, IRS, Dept of Ed, impeach the President, VP, DHS Sect and AG, put the NIH Director in prison, and its only Tuesday. Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 05:20 PM (ptqGC) ____________ Hey, that's a pretty good start! Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 10, 2022 05:28 PM (fs1hN) 527
Joke's on them. We're too gay to fight. Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 05:28 PM (dscaa We are a happy bunch. Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 05:29 PM (mZ3xv) Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 10, 2022 05:29 PM (fs1hN) 529
the "Justice" Department is trying to claim this was all the decision of the local US Attorney
A rogue district attorney! ...doing exactly what we wanted! What are the odds? Posted by: DOJ at August 10, 2022 05:29 PM (ugV9/) 530
491 >>>This is a case where almost everyone believes "The President knew nothing of this".
============ Horseshit. Dementia is no defense. The guy supposes himself to be President of the country; he can't claim the fuzzy-brain defense. Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2022 05:23 PM (e7Xvk) F. Joe Biden Himself Announced Joe Biden had Cancer. Everyone said, "meh! That's just Joe being Joe. He doesn't really have cancer," two weeks ago. Tell me how he is all there? Posted by: rd at August 10, 2022 05:29 PM (Z32m1) Posted by: Sturmabteilung Braunhemden at August 10, 2022 05:29 PM (+oR7L) 532
505 Fire every employee of the FBI and take away their pensions.
That is the minimum. Obviously, many of them will have to be prosecuted and face prison time. Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 10, 2022 05:25 PM (lTGtQ) Nope, close the department and do RIFs to let agents compete for other jobs they might be qualified for. If you do it that way, they can't sue and can't get their jobs back. Your way guarantees lawsuits, wins, and back pay. If you're gonna take down the king, you get one shot. if you're gonna take down the FBI, the same goes, so you have to do it smart. You do NOT fire, you close the department and RIF... Posted by: Nova local at August 10, 2022 05:29 PM (exHjb) 533
Glowie or paid troll trying to get us to fight.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 10, 2022 05:25 PM (xhaym) You know, I try to keep a low profile - honestly - in my own stupid back ass way - but it kinda' pisses me off when somebody else gets called a troll. That's my thing. It's been one of those days. Posted by: Here I Go Again at August 10, 2022 05:30 PM (EIczM) 534
Could this be a setup to get Biden?
Biden is clueless of course, but will this be Biden's Watergate to get him to resign? They need to get rid of Biden because he is a cement anchor ............. Posted by: Ferd Berfall at August 10, 2022 05:30 PM (66jxp) 535
@RonFilipkowski
Republicans now want to abolish the FBI, CIA, IRS, Dept of Ed, impeach the President, VP, DHS Sect and AG, put the NIH Director in prison, and its only Tuesday. Posted by: Jane D'oh You convinced me. I will indeed vote republican this fall. Maybe we will only get a third of that list, but it is a start. Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 10, 2022 05:30 PM (lTGtQ) 536
Boats and water are dangerous if you know too much.
Posted by: whig at August 10, 2022 05:05 PM (CXr4y) So, instead of the little yellow rubber ducky, give Joe a toy boat to play in the bath with? Oh that's right, Joe doesn't know too much. And what he did know he forgot. Still worth a try though. Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at August 10, 2022 05:30 PM (zB/T/) 537
DOJ Source Calls Trump Raid a "Spectacular Backfire;"
Can't imagine who told them it was a good idea... Posted by: The Ghosts in the Machine at August 10, 2022 05:30 PM (Q14hI) 538
Anonymous sources tell me the 87,000 new IRS agents will be assigned to auditing the Trump family.
Posted by: wth at August 10, 2022 05:30 PM (v0R5T) 539
Then promote his right hand man?
Dumb, dumb, dumb Posted by: Hylian ------------------ You might actually try to do a little digging on the internetz before commenting. Wray was actually Christie's defense lawyer in Bridgegate. Hillary's neighbor was Asst. Director at the time, Andrew McCabe who was all in the big Russia lie. So, you fire Comey, McCabe who gots hundreds of thousands of Hillary dollars for his wife's run for office in VA as director. Comey was allowed to stay because Trump erroneously thought that he was anti Hillary. That was an error. Posted by: whig at August 10, 2022 05:30 PM (CXr4y) 540
Agree. McConnell knew and was involved.
== Fer sur. They lined up a bunch of GOPe to go on tv an act concerned. Were going to do it over the whole week and BUT they only got to Chris Christy and Tim Scott before it got sooo negative the rest of them got cold feet. It took a day, then Biden did the sargent shultz routine I know nuthing! then next day Garland says - wasn't my idea tomorrow Wray apologizes or makes the case for an indictment. This shit is LIT AF as the kids say. Posted by: Idiots - Complete Fucking Clowns at August 10, 2022 05:30 PM (PVVKi) Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 10, 2022 05:30 PM (XIJ/X) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Summer of Our Discontent at August 10, 2022 05:31 PM (FVME7) 543
The Trump Curse is about to claim a few more victims.
Posted by: JuJuBee, fact checker hammered by events at August 10, 2022 05:18 PM (8Lklg) It is the "Bitch eating crackers" curse: when you are so twisted up by hate at someone that you see her eating crackers and the only thought in your head is "how dare that bitch eat crackers like that we should stomp her flat for daring to do that" Now imagine having unfettered prosecutorial powers . . . And not realizing your target can dodge. Posted by: Kindltot at August 10, 2022 05:31 PM (xhaym) 544
Prediction: FBI will lie about receiving "death threats." Radio and TV news is already saying Garland and Wray are receiving death threats on the internet. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2022 05:31 PM (63Dwl) 545
@RonFilipkowski
Republicans now want to abolish the FBI, CIA, IRS, Dept of Ed, impeach the President, VP, DHS Sect and AG, put the NIH Director in prison, and its only Tuesday. Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 05:20 PM (ptqGC) ____________ Hey, that's a pretty good start! Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 10, 2022 05:28 PM (fs1hN) I will vote for any politician that runs on that! I will even volunteer my time! Posted by: rd at August 10, 2022 05:31 PM (Z32m1) 546
493 Local news is trying to obfuscate the hell out of the raid, while playing the hell out of his taking the 5th in NY.
___________ That lunatic black bitch prosecutor in NYC announced multiple times that she was going to "get" Trump, no matter what it took. Said it was what motivated her soul. He'd be an idiot to answer any questions in her bullshit "investigation" under the circumstances. Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at August 10, 2022 05:31 PM (MvHI3) Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 10, 2022 05:31 PM (yQpMk) 548
The Cancer within these federal agencies is so deep, and so wide it would be impossible to cure. I just don't see how to fix it. Drain the Swamp? The whole damned government is the swamp. Posted by: portlandon at August 10, 2022 05:31 PM (+oR7L) 549
All of Trump's cabinet level positions had to be approved by McConnell's Senate. People sometimes seem to forget that anyone who McConnell didn't approve of wasn't getting a job.
-------- It wasn't just McConnell, either. The Senate GOP was just about openly considering impeaching Trump after he sacked Comey because they almost to a man believed the Russia Hoax. They made it known that firing Good Ole "Bob" Mueller would trigger impeachment and that they would never confirm a Trump loyalist as FBI Director. The Senate GOP more or less gave him a list of "acceptable" names who would maintain the infamous "independence" of the Bureau, which is how ridiculous candidates like McCabe and Lieberman got interviews. It's really important to remember the Senate GOP's role in abetting not just Mueller/the Russia Hoax, but DoJ and the Bureau going rogue. Posted by: Liz Cheney's Rancid Cunt at August 10, 2022 05:31 PM (chL32) 550
Republicans now want to abolish the FBI, CIA, IRS, Dept of Ed, impeach the President, VP, DHS Sect and AG, put the NIH Director in prison, and its only Tuesday.
Sounds good. I think a majority of American people would go along with this. Posted by: Ordinary American at August 10, 2022 05:31 PM (H8QX8) 551
Could this be a setup to get Biden?
Biden is clueless of course, but will this be Biden's Watergate to get him to resign? They need to get rid of Biden because he is a cement anchor ............. Posted by: Ferd Berfall If their plan includes losing the white house and losing seats in the senate and house in 2024..... Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 10, 2022 05:31 PM (lTGtQ) Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 10, 2022 05:32 PM (yikp0) 553
No, this wasn't about retrieving documents. This was about ransacking Trump's home to look for something, anything, that they might use against him.
That and making a big show for CNN in hopes of intimidating the rest of us. Posted by: Methos at August 10, 2022 05:32 PM (kOpft) 554
Fizbo!
Posted by: wth at August 10, 2022 05:32 PM (v0R5T) 555
This FBI? Anything incriminating found on Trump or his properties was planted by it.
Do they not understand how the FBI has destroyed its reputation and legitimacy yet? I mean, I guess Deep State et al can continue gaslighting, but the FBI is done. Not salvageable. Done. Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at August 10, 2022 05:32 PM (aXxgO) 556
Kari with a sledgehammer: https://bit.ly/3bITexu
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at August 10, 2022 05:32 PM (Bd6X8) 557
Radio and TV news is already saying Garland and Wray are receiving death threats on the internet.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2022 05:31 PM (63Dwl) True. local news at noon said they were increasing their security. Posted by: rd at August 10, 2022 05:32 PM (Z32m1) 558
Calling it a "Spectacular backfire" implies that this was all political to begin with. Obvious to all, but now they've admitted it.
Posted by: InZona (formerly InCali) at August 10, 2022 05:32 PM (ep37o) 559
Nope, close the department and do RIFs to let agents compete for other jobs they might be qualified for.
Plenty of of openings and plenty of shovels, fellas! Posted by: The Freedom Canal at August 10, 2022 05:32 PM (6THwK) 560
530 473 This CNN and MSNBC contributor needs to cry harder:
@RonFilipkowski Republicans now want to abolish the FBI, CIA, IRS, Dept of Ed, impeach the President, VP, DHS Sect and AG, put the NIH Director in prison, and its only Tuesday. Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 05:20 PM (ptqGC) ____________ Hey, that's a pretty good start! Posted by: Chuck Martel Finally, a coherent Republican plan! Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana! ~ at August 10, 2022 05:32 PM (hOUT3) Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2022 05:32 PM (ZLI7S) 562
That song and dance needs more cowbell.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at August 10, 2022 05:33 PM (NgGts) 563
Comey was allowed to stay because Trump erroneously thought that he was anti Hillary. That was an error.
== In a nutshell. He believed that there were two parties. That republicans would support him and be against the democrats. THERE IS ONLY ONE PARTY and he isn't in it. Neither are we. They are working together in their narrow joint interest, which is not the Country's interest. Posted by: Idiots - at August 10, 2022 05:33 PM (lfZKB) 564
First thing Trump does when he wins? Begs Comey to stay on. You really think it takes omniscence to see what a mistake that is? Then promote his right hand man?
Dumb, dumb, dumb Posted by: Hylian That's not the first thing he did when he won. Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 10, 2022 05:33 PM (IEa8U) 565
" I think the ball is 100% in Durham's court, and it looks to me like his mission is to protect the institution and blame it all on the politicians and Fusion GPS." Posted by: Caesar North
I know nothing of such matters, but, any chance a raid on Trump's home might be like giving Durham some smelling salts? Some like Kash Patel still have some faith, but iirc, a few months ago he thought things would "be happening" this summer. tick tock ... I guess he has subpoenas out. Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2022 05:33 PM (Cus5s) 566
What did the people of Hope, Arkansas, ever do to you to merit such vicious cruelty?
Posted by: TrivialPursuer ----------------- Well, the folks in Hope just might have some hogs they need to feed. Posted by: whig at August 10, 2022 05:33 PM (CXr4y) 567
DOJ Source Calls Trump Raid a "Spectacular Backfire;"
Can't imagine who told them it was a good idea... Posted by: The Ghosts in the Machine at August 10, 2022 05:30 PM (Q14hI) --- That's a Chunk Ugyur level of cluelessness. Posted by: Axeman at August 10, 2022 05:34 PM (krQz2) 568
@RonFilipkowski
Republicans now want to abolish the FBI, CIA, IRS, Dept of Ed, impeach the President, VP, DHS Sect and AG, put the NIH Director in prison, and its only Tuesday. == He's not wrong. Posted by: Idiots - at August 10, 2022 05:34 PM (lfZKB) Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 10, 2022 05:34 PM (yikp0) 570
Posted by: Nemo at August 10, 2022 05:24 PM (S6ArX)
Trump wrote memos declassifying a lot of information near the end of his term. Anything to do with Hillary. Anything to do with Russiagate. Anything to do with Jan 6. They need those classified so the American people can't know what really happened... otherwise FOIA request can go forward. Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 05:34 PM (oHd/0) 571
The only way to take him out before his term is up is to expose his connections to the CCP.
So, as Jackstraw has been asking, what's in those documents? Posted by: Methos at August 10, 2022 05:34 PM (kOpft) 572
Tim Scott graduated from Charleston Southern University in 1988 with a Bachelor of Science degree in political science.
Hmmm, I wonder what he going to do when he's voted out of office? Can't even code. Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 10, 2022 05:34 PM (m7R0k) 573
Good GOD am I sick of hearing this tired bullshit. I suppose YOU would have magically known who you could trust and who you couldn't ?
I agree with you. If someone was transferred out of their milieux where they knew absolutely nobody in the government except in a social sense with brief interchanges how would they know how the trust, but "Here we go again" would always have perfect record. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2022 05:34 PM (wvo9L) 574
Kari with a sledgehammer: https://bit.ly/3bITexu
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at August 10, 2022 05:32 PM (Bd6X I hope she's the real deal. At any rate, I can't wait to vote for her. Posted by: InZona (formerly InCali) at August 10, 2022 05:34 PM (ep37o) 575
Kari with a sledgehammer: https://bit.ly/3bITexu
I honestly thought you meant that metaphorically. Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at August 10, 2022 05:34 PM (U+Oxn) 576
It wasn't just McConnell, either. The Senate GOP was just about openly considering impeaching Trump after he sacked Comey because they almost to a man believed the Russia Hoax.
_________________ Hey, we always believe everything the Democrats tell us. Comity, as it were. - Senate GOP Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 10, 2022 05:35 PM (fs1hN) 577
>>Radio and TV news is already saying Garland and Wray are receiving death threats on the internet.
The person leading the effort to publicize the supposed death threats is Daniel Jones, former Feistein staffer and then a Soros paid hump helping push the Russia hoax. Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2022 05:35 PM (ZLI7S) 578
Calling it a "Spectacular backfire" implies that this was all political to begin with. Obvious to all, but now they've admitted it. Posted by: InZona (formerly InCali) Backfire Hurricane Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2022 05:35 PM (63Dwl) 579
Radio and TV news is already saying Garland and Wray are receiving death threats on the internet.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2022 05:31 PM (63Dwl) ....... anybody lame enough to post death threats on the internet is never going to actually do it. probably Fake Death Threats posted by paid DNC activists. Posted by: wth at August 10, 2022 05:35 PM (v0R5T) 580
568 @RonFilipkowski
Republicans now want to abolish the FBI, CIA, IRS, Dept of Ed, impeach the President, VP, DHS Sect and AG, put the NIH Director in prison, and its only Tuesday. == He's not wrong. Posted by: Idiots - at August 10, 2022 05:34 PM (lfZKB) He says that like its a BAD thing. Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 05:35 PM (oHd/0) 581
Radio and TV news is already saying Garland and Wray are receiving death threats on the internet.
Never let a backfire go to waste... Posted by: FBI Chat Rooms at August 10, 2022 05:35 PM (6THwK) 582
First thing Trump does when he wins? Begs Comey to stay on. You really think it takes omniscence to see what a mistake that is? Then promote his right hand man?
Dumb, dumb, dumb Posted by: Hylian == this is amish dude or chem jeff or banana splits Posted by: OCD types at August 10, 2022 05:36 PM (khGJF) 583
Spectacular backfire is what a car does.
Epic dick stomping, own goal of gargantuan proportion destined to hasten the downfall of one the largest law enforcement organizations in the world sounds better. Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 05:36 PM (mZ3xv) 584
524 And he is. He may be the one that ends up not lasting in his job through 2022...
Posted by: Nova local ---------------------- Wray has the goods on Biden is why Biden would let a weakened Wray stay on. Posted by: whig at August 10, 2022 05:27 PM (CXr4y) I believe the top-level players in DC, of both parties, are in a huge Mutual Assured Destruction blackmail situation. Everyone above GS-15 has at least one career-ending piece of info about one or more other players. To get up the ladder, you need to obtain nasty info about more and more of the other players. But nobody's got nothing on Trump. And here we are. Posted by: Gref at August 10, 2022 05:36 PM (AMIL/) 585
"Radio and TV news is already saying Garland and Wray are receiving death threats on the internet."
Garland and Wray are the real victims here ... that is clear. /s Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2022 05:36 PM (Cus5s) 586
This FBI? Anything incriminating found on Trump or his properties was planted by it.
Do they not understand how the FBI has destroyed its reputation and legitimacy yet? I mean, I guess Deep State et al can continue gaslighting, but the FBI is done. Not salvageable. Done. Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna They just jetted out of there without leaving an inventory with the lawyers. Meaning they could "find" anything they wanted in the boxes back at the office. Even with an inventory I'd be skeptical of what they "discovered." Without one it's like they weren't even trying. Posted by: She Hobbit at August 10, 2022 05:36 PM (ftFVW) 587
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The Cancer within these federal agencies is so deep, and so wide it would be impossible to cure. I just don't see how to fix it. Drain the Swamp? The whole damned government is the swamp. Posted by: portlandon ---------------- Repeal Civil Service laws in total. No job protections, no permanent federal jobs. Posted by: whig at August 10, 2022 05:36 PM (CXr4y) 588
this is amish dude or chem jeff or banana splits
Posted by: OCD types at August 10, 2022 05:36 PM (khGJF) I rate this as very plausible. Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at August 10, 2022 05:37 PM (xPJvm) 589
579 Radio and TV news is already saying Garland and Wray are receiving death threats on the internet.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2022 05:31 PM (63Dwl) anybody lame enough to post death threats on the internet is never going to actually do it. probably Fake Death Threats posted by paid DNC activists. Posted by: wth at August 10, 2022 05:35 PM (v0R5T) Welllll.... the agent in charge of the FBI agents who did the Gov Whitmer Kidnap Frame Job, was promoted to the DC Office.... so I'd be checking IP addresses. Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 05:37 PM (oHd/0) 590
@RonFilipkowski Republicans now want to abolish the FBI, CIA, IRS, Dept of Ed, impeach the President, VP, DHS Sect and AG, put the NIH Director in prison, and its only Tuesday. And I want to hit you in the face with a pie. And it's Wednesday. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2022 05:37 PM (63Dwl) 591
It wasn't just McConnell, either. The Senate GOP was just about openly considering impeaching Trump after he sacked Comey because they almost to a man believed the Russia Hoax.
--- They're not sending their best (to Congress). Posted by: Axeman at August 10, 2022 05:37 PM (krQz2) 592
So, as Jackstraw has been asking, what's in those documents?
Posted by: Methos at August 10, 2022 05:34 PM (kOpft) ~~~~~ Wouldn't that be awesome! It was either Ron Johnson or Jim Jordan who said that Republicans were involved in Russiagate too. I'd love to see all the RINOs outed. Posted by: IrishEi at August 10, 2022 05:37 PM (3ImbR) 593
Nood is up, instructions on how to take this.
Posted by: Picric at August 10, 2022 05:37 PM (hupMO) Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 10, 2022 05:37 PM (sEw6T) 595
Radio and TV news is already saying Garland and Wray are receiving death threats on the internet.
== You Don't Say. The fact that these complete assclowns appear to be impervious to how they are percieved UNTIL they actually start getting death threats, ices the cake that is SOCIOPATHY. Sheesh. Posted by: What a remarkably predictable turn of events at August 10, 2022 05:38 PM (dubSA) 596
Tell me how he is all there?
Posted by: rd at August 10, 2022 05:29 PM (Z32m1) ================== Of course he's loopy. I can say that, and you can say that, and we can fret over the impact on the country. But Joey himself can't use his dementia as a defense of his actions when he sends stormtroopers into the private residence of his predecessor. He's in a position where he has to man-up, and pretend he's making buck-stopper decisions. Hiding in his beach house and only talking to the DoorDash guy bringing a fresh quart of ice cream doesn't qualify as "taking responsibility". Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2022 05:38 PM (NRqwE) 597
"It's really important to remember the Senate GOP's role in abetting not just Mueller/the Russia Hoax, but DoJ and the Bureau going rogue."
And in every other key policy area, where passivity sometimes is the killer mechanism (border barrier funding, anyone?). It's not that complicated. Most of the elected GOP not only doesn't share Trump's (or in several areas, the public's) policy preferences, they vehemently oppose them. This enormous, pernicious inertia is as serious a threat to the nation's prosperity and freedom as the obvious rot in government agencies and the death of public service ethics. Posted by: rhomboid at August 10, 2022 05:38 PM (OTzUX) 598
Kari with a sledgehammer > Ron DeSantis with a weak AF statement.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 10, 2022 05:38 PM (m7R0k) 599
Kari with a sledgehammer: https://bit.ly/3bITexu
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons ....... I'd let her spank me. Posted by: wth at August 10, 2022 05:38 PM (v0R5T) 600
The long arm of the law.
James A. Gagliano@JamesAGagliano “A former senior FBI lawyer, Kevin Clinesmith, who was found guilty of forgery in the Trump-Russia probe has been restored to “good standing” status by the District of Columbia Bar Association despite not fully completing his probation sentence.” Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Summer of Our Discontent at August 10, 2022 05:38 PM (FVME7) 601
Radio and TV news is already saying Garland and Wray are receiving death threats on the internet.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2022 05:31 PM (63Dwl) ________ Problem is, they're calling in death threats on each other, for agreeing to go along with this. Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 10, 2022 05:38 PM (fs1hN) 602
587 548
The Cancer within these federal agencies is so deep, and so wide it would be impossible to cure. I just don't see how to fix it. Drain the Swamp? The whole damned government is the swamp. Posted by: portlandon Repeal Civil Service laws in total. No job protections, no permanent federal jobs. Posted by: whig at August 10, 2022 05:36 PM (CXr4y) Sovereign Immunity is NOT in the Constitution, it was Forced on us by the Supreme Court. Make those in Government PERSONALLY responsible for denying someone their Civil Rights. Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 05:39 PM (oHd/0) 603
Kari with a sledgehammer: https://bit.ly/3bITexu
I honestly thought you meant that metaphorically. The Arizona flag features a copper star, right? That was a nice touch on the hammer. Posted by: t-bird at August 10, 2022 05:39 PM (PS0hR) 604
If you're gonna take down the king, you get one shot. if you're gonna take down the FBI, the same goes, so you have to do it smart. You do NOT fire, you close the department and RIF... Posted by: Nova local at August 10, 2022 05:29 PM (exHjb) Lateral transfer to Border Patrol, and fire for bad fit / unable to meet minimum physical qualifications after nine to thirteen months. Posted by: Kindltot at August 10, 2022 05:39 PM (xhaym) 605
I believe the top-level players in DC, of both parties, are in a huge Mutual Assured Destruction blackmail situation. Everyone above GS-15 has at least one career-ending piece of info about one or more other players. To get up the ladder, you need to obtain nasty info about more and more of the other players.
But nobody's got nothing on Trump. And here we are. Posted by: Gref ---------------- Mob did the same thing, only made men could advance. Posted by: whig at August 10, 2022 05:39 PM (CXr4y) 606
We never really had a Trump *Administration*.
What we had instead was one honorable individual, Donald J. Trump, trying his best to function as the duly elected President, while beset with a thoroughly corrupt Uniparty Establishment Administration composed of traitors, liars, criminals, and grifters at every level of the internal government of the US, plus a plethora of hostile foreign governments (and their agents) that craved the furtherance of the NWO and feared Trump would interrupt the graft! Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ This year in Corsicana! ~ at August 10, 2022 05:39 PM (hOUT3) 607
Radio and TV news is already saying Garland and Wray are receiving death threats on the internet.
That's some bullshit. I tweeted "The Wray The" Posted by: Methos at August 10, 2022 05:40 PM (kOpft) 608
A responsible administration would FIRE. THEM. ALL.
Posted by: Jimmy Doolittle at August 10, 2022 05:41 PM (6wnYC) 609
What just happened is an even trashier version of the USSR military kidnapping Raisa and Mikhail Gorbachev.
**** Ok, so all we need now is Boris Yeltsin, a tank for him to stand on, and a shi!tload of vodka. Then problem solved! Posted by: Paladin at August 10, 2022 05:41 PM (uP15z) 610
The Senate must impeach Garland or get him to resign. They could probably even get some Dems to vote for it too, to save their asses in November.
O/w it's a spectacular show of weakness, which will only embolden the baddies. Posted by: Ultra pj at August 10, 2022 05:41 PM (G1dq6) 611
Seeing as how we have a Dept. of Education that ruins our students, a Dept. of Energy that produces no energy, an NIH that wants us to die, an CDC that produces plagues, an FBI and CIA that arrests everyone except criminals, a DOJ that is focused on parents attending school board meetings, a Forest service filled with arsonists, I could go on and on.
Yep, shit can all of them. Posted by: gourmand du jour, fasting at August 10, 2022 05:41 PM (jTmQV) 612
>Trump wrote memos declassifying a lot of information near the end of his term. Anything to do with Hillary. Anything to do with Russiagate. Anything to do with Jan 6.
Is that something Trump could just hand over copies to people like Gaetz or Jordan? Posted by: Fool Otto at August 10, 2022 05:42 PM (DB16e) 613
anybody lame enough to post death threats on the internet is never going to actually do it.
probably Fake Death Threats posted by paid DNC activists. Posted by: wth at August 10, 2022 05:35 PM (v0R5T) Tragically true. Here's to hoping there's thousands of like-inclined folks not posting and have a penchant for burning these pigs alive. Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 10, 2022 05:42 PM (nMx88) 614
Radio and TV news is already saying Garland and Wray are receiving death threats on the internet.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2022 05:31 PM (63Dwl) ----- 'twarnt me! My word as a Weasel. Posted by: Weasel at August 10, 2022 05:42 PM (0IeYL) 615
581 Radio and TV news is already saying Garland and Wray are receiving death threats on the internet.
Kafka trapping. Classic. They'll scumble their f*ck-ups with a narrative of right-wing rage stewing beneath the surface of our society ready at any second to erupt. Deeply, irremediably sick and treacherous people in the media. Posted by: Ordinary American at August 10, 2022 05:43 PM (H8QX8) 616
Sovereign Immunity is NOT in the Constitution, it was Forced on us by the Supreme Court. Make those in Government PERSONALLY responsible for denying someone their Civil Rights.
Posted by: Romeo13 ----------------------------- I think you mean qualified and absolute immunity from personal lawsuits. That is a totally judge made doctrine. Sovereign immunity means that the US govt or state governments are not liable for lawsuits. In the first case, you get the Federal Torts Claims Act, and in the second, you get civil rights laws abrogating governmental immunity in certain situations. Plus, many states have abolished claims courts in favor of citizens being allowed to sue for normal damages caused by negligence, etc. Both Congress and states can and have passed legislation making the government and its agents liable. Posted by: whig at August 10, 2022 05:44 PM (CXr4y) 617
"this only proves that Trump must be guilty of something" Lavrentia Garland
Posted by: mallfly the peach of Hoboken at August 10, 2022 05:45 PM (Ynyl9) 618
Any mention like that to 'dirty, dirty whore' I involuntarily read in Norm Macdonald's voice. RIP
Ah, Normy, Normy, Normy... Posted by: micky at August 10, 2022 05:46 PM (3byMq) 619
If we don't behave like the long-suffering suckers and retarded masochists they think we are, and are no better than, if we dare to speak up, we're potential terrorists.
Posted by: Ordinary American at August 10, 2022 05:48 PM (H8QX8) 620
I'll believe Garland didn't sign off only if he fires Wray.
Posted by: Mediapostate at August 10, 2022 05:48 PM (WoCdg) 621
Say agin why you axin' ME to sign all these papers!!
Posted by: FBI Janitor at August 10, 2022 05:48 PM (peWy1) 622
I think we're past the empty the gun at Trump stage, throw the gun st Trump stage, throw random furniture at Trump stage, throw expensive lab equipment at Trimp stage, and are looking at the female lead as she says "Don't think it, pal."
Posted by: Mikey NTH The Outrage Outlet is Stocked With Vexation and Ire. at August 10, 2022 05:50 PM (Kied+) 623
620 I'll believe Garland didn't sign off only if he fires Wray.
Posted by: Mediapostate at August 10, 2022 05:48 PM (WoCdg) I won't even care if both end up twitching at the end of a rope. Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 10, 2022 05:52 PM (nMx88) Posted by: Beverly at August 10, 2022 06:02 PM (C5H+L) 625
Very sophisticated people like Andy McCarthy have said this is really a fishing expedition and has nothing to do with records handling but if they already knew what was there then how can it be a fishing expedition? It has to be the case that there are duplicates of all these records, right? It's not as if these are super duper important records and there is only one copy.
Posted by: 1&2 Simultaneously at August 10, 2022 06:03 PM (SKkKl) 626
Is that something Trump could just hand over copies to people like Gaetz or Jordan?
_________ Of course, and something his security team and people like Kash Patel could place digitally on any number of servers/platforms to be sure they do not disappear. This isn't the 90s, you don't need source docs, digital copies are fine. Posted by: BunkerintheBurbs at August 10, 2022 06:22 PM (aXaSz) Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 10, 2022 06:24 PM (+oR7L) 628
I agree with you. If someone was transferred out of their milieux where they knew absolutely nobody in the government except in a social sense with brief interchanges how would they know how the trust, but "Here we go again" would always have perfect record.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2022 05:34 PM (wvo9L) It's not that I have perfect "before record". But most people, like me, have a really damn good idea of when things are too good to be true. Or when we're getting sold the undercoat. Or when - frankly - an asshole farmer is just an asshole. And folks like us ? We don't wander around all day pissing our panties about other folks. Posted by: Here I Go Again at August 10, 2022 06:52 PM (EIczM) 629
seems that when something like this happens you'll be correct more often if you assume the officials are stupid instead of sinister.
Posted by: Mark1971 at August 10, 2022 04:39 PM (xPl2J) Nope. They don't get that benefit of the doubt from me anymore. A long train of abuses and usurpations all evicting one thing isn't stupidity. No. Effin. Way. Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 10, 2022 07:07 PM (MFphb) 630
Now we know why Criminal Wray was in a hurry to jet off to upstate New York for a vacation. "Sorry, I've got terrible phone service out here in the sticks -- did something come up?"
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 10, 2022 07:47 PM (pJWtt) 631
Trump gets raided over overdue books.
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