NeverTrump Smugly Repeats the Coordinated Message of the Day: Trump Has the Warrant, He Should Release It.
Except... Does He Have the Warrant?
CLAIM: The FBI "Showed" the Lawyer the Warrant... FROM TEN FEET AWAY

The left, the media, and NeverTrump -- but, as is so common, I repeat myself thrice -- is yet again on the exact same messaging page, repeating the same Misinformation: To wit, that Trump has the warrant, and if there's something faulty in it, he should release it.

Implication: He hasn't released it, so it's perfect.


Here are some of the usual Misinformation Specialists pushing the claim that he has the warrant... without any evidence that he has the warrant, apart from seeing assholes on Twitter speculate he has it.

This "conservative" works for Politico now, and The Dispatch:


Sarah Isgur
@whignewtons

Just another reminder: Trump has a copy of the warrant, which will include what they searched for and what crimes they believe were broken. He can release it whenever he wants.

She's yet another example of the Establishment grabbing up every woman or gay warm body who claims to be even slightly "conservative" so we can "do outreach" to liberals, and then, surprise surprise, she turns out to be a liberal herself.

Can we stop doing that now? (I myself may have sinned...)

Although, to be honest, the Fat Short Bald Pudgy Redneck White Guys aren't sending their best, either:

Rick Wilson
@TheRickWilson

Why hasn't Trump released a copy of the warrant that was served at Mar A Lago?

"Professor of Journalism" as usual assumes facts without actually doing any reportage or fact checking to determine the facts:

Jay Rosen
@jayrosen_nyu

Free lede for any newsroom that needs it.

WASHINGTON, August 9. Former president Donald Trump has so far refused to release the warrant served on him Monday, keeping voters in the dark, and creating an information vacuum that supporters have filled with threats and accusations.

Unemployed rando loser on Twitter:

Joe Walsh

@WalshFreedom


Trump has the warrant. He could release it.

Hillary Clinton's corrupt lawyer:

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Noted Easily-Duped Bumpkin Ed Morrissey assumed Trump had the warrant because all of the c*cks and liberals he follows on Twitter told him he did and that was good enough for Ed!

And now he updates: Wait, did he have the warrant?

Well, it turns out, Trump does not have the warrant that all of these Very Well-Informed Smart Set Patriots Who Are Reliable Sources and Never Spread Partisan Misinformation insisted he did.

Or, at least: There is no evidence he has it, and Eric Trump specifically denies he has it.

The Daily Mail:

EXCLUSIVE: Eric Trump reveals what REALLY happened in the FBI raid: President's son says agents REFUSED to hand over warrant, kicked lawyer off the property, searched Melania's clothes - and how Mar-a-Lago staff refused to turn off security cameras


Eric Trump revealed FBI agents refused to hand over the search warrant for their raid on Mar-a-Lago and kicked an attorney off the property in a new, incisive account of the Monday operation at the Florida estate.

Speaking exclusively to DailyMail.com, the former president's son said the 30 agents who arrived at the property asked staff to turn security cameras off -- but they refused.

The bureau, he said, also brought safe crackers in to break into his father's safe, and he slammed the investigators for rummaging former first lady Melania's wardrobe and searching through clothing.

He called the raid another 'coordinated attack' on his father Donald Trump and insisted there is no way President Joe Biden was kept in the dark about the search.

CBS News reports that Trump's attorney confirms that the warrant is "sealed." Meaning, he was not allowed to see examine it.

[Trump attorney Lindsey] Halligan said the search warrant was sealed, and because she had not been party to this aspect of Trump's legal portfolio until Monday, did not know what kinds of documents the FBI might be looking for nor what kinds of documents the former president keeps with him at Mar-a-Lago.

Now one can say, "Well that's not proof, those are two interested parties making that claim."

Well, one's a lawyer, though. There are professional consequences to lying. (Are you done laughing? I mean, there are consequences if you're opposed to The Regime.)

And also: If they're lying, where's the denial from the FBI and DOJ?

Are the FBI and DOJ going to allow them to spread this Dangerous Malinformation without rebuttal?

I guess so. I guess so.

I'm really tired of the alleged "Smart Set" on Twitter. Every single day you see them popping off their perfectly-ignorant, uninformed opinions. They do not read cases, they do not read original documents. They just read twitter.

Their "informed opinions" come from other perfect imbeciles on Twitter, who also know nothing.

But they just keep repeating the same uninformed, unsourced guesses and speculations -- no one bothering to track down any citations or authorities for the claims -- and they take comfort in the fact that Everyone On Twitter is Saying It, So It Must Be True.

By the way, none of them will delete their tweets or apologize for having spread misinformation with such perfect confidence. The perfect confidence that only the shallowest of ignorant imbeciles can possess. The people who are so stupid and so incapable of critical thought that the most basic, fundamental self-check -- wait, how do I know I "know" this??! -- never occurs to them, ever.

Not even once.

Why should they question it? They have it from the highest source possible: From other dull minds who sit on Twitter all fucking day, repeating other people's "Twitter Wit" and passing it off as their own wisdom and insight.

It's a Human Centipede of Smugly-Assured Ignorance, one unwarrantedly-confident imbecile shitting into the next unaccountably-selfsure know-nothing's wide-open mouth.

Update: According to this Twitter user, Eric Trump says the FBI "showed" the lawyer the warrant from "ten feet away," too far away to actually read, and refused to leave a copy.

I don't know if he's claiming this, or if he is claiming it, if it's true.

It would explain things, though -- how the FBI would claim they technically "presented" the warrant -- from ten feet away! -- but did not actually let anyone read it.


Julia
@Jules31415

Eric Trump: "They told our lawyer... you have to leave the property right now. Turn off all security cameras. They would not give her the search warrant. So they showed it to her from about 10 feet away. They would not give her a copy of the search warrant."

Gestapo tactics.

If that's true -- if -- it will take David French about 30 minutes to reconfigure all of "Muh Princibuhls" and begin defending it as necessary and prudent.


I don't know what's going on here, but I'm not going to trust "some liberal know-nothings on Twitter" to tell me.

>3 I've never been served a warrant, but I thought it was *required* that you have an opportunity to read it before you allow LEOs into your house/property. So they can literally just show up with a blank piece of paper in a sealed envelope in hand, and claim to have a warrant?

That's what I thought but I dunno, they seem to be making up a lot of law On The Special for Trump. Who knows, national security.

I didn't think you could get an order to spy on a presidential candidate based on an op file submitted by his opponent, either.

Just to speculate: there are some secrecy classifications, called codeword classifications, where the names of the classifications themselves are secret.

So if the warrant say "Search authorized for ALOHA SEPTEMBER files," and that's a secret codeword classification, who knows, maybe then the warrant is sealed, to protect the codeword?

Posted by: Ace at 12:02 PM




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1 As if the Eff.Bee.EYE would provide an inventory...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 10, 2022 12:02 PM (llON8)

2 As if the Eff.Bee.EYE would provide an inventory...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

Well, it was only verbally taken. No other documentation you know. . .

Posted by: Tonypete at August 10, 2022 12:04 PM (LsEU/)

3 Read the content. Rookie mistake.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 10, 2022 12:04 PM (JMAcK)

4 The FBI doesn't even know what they took - weren't they just grabbing boxes to look at stuff later.


Posted by: Iris at August 10, 2022 12:04 PM (foa6+)

5 But if cops did this for a gangbanger, the Dems would be in the street screaming all cops are bastards.

Posted by: Bete at August 10, 2022 12:05 PM (FHFTy)

6 High pressure vapors are in the air. All it will take is a spark and Katy bar the door.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 10, 2022 12:05 PM (m7R0k)

7 However, unlike NeverTrump, I didn't just assume the content was what I wanted it to be and waited till I had actually investigated things before making a comment ABOUT the content.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 10, 2022 12:05 PM (JMAcK)

8 Wait, don't the cops have to present the warrant?

Or are we just at straight NKVD territory? Oh wait, even the NKVD had warrants.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 10, 2022 12:05 PM (XvPQV)

9 The search warrant itself (i.e. this is what we're looking for and where we can look for it) isn't as important as the affidavit in support of the warrant. The affidavit sets forth the probable cause and could include references to informants, both named and unnamed.

Posted by: PabloD at August 10, 2022 12:05 PM (mLlUP)

10 Turn off security cameras... because the FBI doesn't want video of them planting 'evidence'.

Secret Service should have told the FBI to piss off until they handed over a true copy of the warrant.

Posted by: OhNoNotTheBees at August 10, 2022 12:06 PM (HgyuS)

11 The dumb fucks also don't realize that a search warrant is not an affidavit for a search warrant. The latter is what the judge allegedly reads before signing off on the warrant. The warrant only names the area to be searched and vaguely will describe the items being searched for. You don't get the affidavit.

Posted by: ejochs at August 10, 2022 12:06 PM (lSFMQ)

12 With Tim Scott's answers about all this, it's yet another mask ripped off by Trump.

(Can't say that about McConnell, because that mask has been off for a while.)

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 10, 2022 12:06 PM (JMAcK)

13 >>> 6 High pressure vapors are in the air. All it will take is a spark and Katy bar the door.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 10, 2022 12:05 PM (m7R0k)

From commenters else-blog:
something something "crystallization out of a super-saturated solution"

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 10, 2022 12:06 PM (llON8)

14 How can a magistrate - not even someone who plays a judge on TV - issue a sealed warrant on the President of the United States?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 12:07 PM (ILqOb)

15 Trump's attorney confirms that the warrant is "sealed." Meaning, he was not allowed to see examine it.

...

Hell yeah.

Posted by: North Korea at August 10, 2022 12:07 PM (9FBGz)

16 In a similar vein, I love the local WTOP headline the Trump took the fifth on the stand - clearly implying that if he answered the question he'd admit guilt. Everyone who's not a libtard knows they are looking for a gotcha process crime. And ***eyeroll** they certainly treat the "i don't recall" Democrat crowd at Congressional Hearings with exactly the same skepticism...

Posted by: Iris at August 10, 2022 12:07 PM (foa6+)

17 CBS News reports that Trump's attorney confirms that the warrant is "sealed." Meaning, he was not allowed to see examine it.
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Should be flatly illegal in all cases. This "sealed" crap is exactly that. "Sealed" warrants, "sealed" indictments and the like have no place - none, for any reason - in a country comprised of citizens. If the state is going to go after a citizen, the state *must* tell the citizen why, what it is looking for, where it intends to find it, what he is being charged with, etc.

A "sealed warrant" should not exist. That it exists at all tells you all you need to know about the meaning of "citizenship." It does not exist. You are a subject, nothing more.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:07 PM (WWh8n)

18 Also, The Human Centipede is a lot less fun than Silence of the Lambs.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 10, 2022 12:08 PM (XvPQV)

19 Eric Trump revealed FBI agents refused to hand over the search warrant for their raid on Mar-a-Lago and kicked an attorney off the property in a new, incisive account of the Monday operation at the Florida estate.

Couldn't they have refused entry until they did hand it over?

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 10, 2022 12:08 PM (DRSnL)

20 I'm no constitutional scholar (though I have seen National Treasure) but

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Posted by: DB at August 10, 2022 12:08 PM (geLO8)

21 >>> 16 In a similar vein, I love the local WTOP headline the Trump took the fifth on the stand - clearly implying that if he answered the question he'd admit guilt. Everyone who's not a libtard knows they are looking for a gotcha process crime. And ***eyeroll** they certainly treat the "i don't recall" Democrat crowd at Congressional Hearings with exactly the same skepticism...
Posted by: Iris at August 10, 2022 12:07 PM (foa6+)

Tell me about it.

Posted by: Martha Fcking Stewart at August 10, 2022 12:08 PM (llON8)

22 So, it turns out it was a warrantless search. I'm shocked, I tells ya.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 10, 2022 12:08 PM (yQpMk)

23 14 How can a magistrate - not even someone who plays a judge on TV - issue a sealed warrant on the President of the United States?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 12:07 PM (ILqOb)

Because we don't live under the rule of law anymore.

I can't pinpoint when it was totally lost, but it's been slipping away my entire life.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 10, 2022 12:08 PM (JMAcK)

24 Harold Ford, Jr. was on "The Five" and repeated "show the warrant" over and over and over.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2022 12:08 PM (63Dwl)

25 Someone explain to me how a warrant can be sealed such that the person being raided cannot know what it contains. That seems to violate both the 5th amendment as well as habeas corpus.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 10, 2022 12:08 PM (lTGtQ)

26 but I threepeat myself

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 10, 2022 12:09 PM (vcv8B)

27 By the way, none of them will delete their tweets or apologize for having spread misinformation with such perfect confidence. The perfect confidence that only the shallowest of ignorant imbeciles can possess. The people who are so stupid and so incapable of critical thought that the most basic, fundamental self-check -- wait, how do I know I "know" this??! -- never occurs to them, ever.
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What they say - right or wrong - comes from a place of goodness and justice and so never justifies retraction. What you say - which is always wrong, by definition - comes from a place of malice and injustice, and must be forcibly suppressed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:09 PM (WWh8n)

28 I know someone who the FEDs talked to, then was notified he had a court apperance the NEXT F'N DAY. Only clues were the questions asked about his employment almost four years earlier. In that first court appearance, he wasn't allowed to know the reason he was in court, as the warrant had been SEALED.

That's our system of Just-Us!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 10, 2022 12:09 PM (ynpvh)

29 Anybody Tweeting that Trump doesn't have a copy of the warrant will have their accounts suspended for spreading misinformation.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 10, 2022 12:09 PM (wUHYj)

30 >>> 25 Someone explain to me how a warrant can be sealed such that the person being raided cannot know what it contains. That seems to violate both the 5th amendment as well as habeas corpus.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 10, 2022 12:08 PM (lTGtQ)

Because OrangeManBad is bad!!!

Posted by: leftists at August 10, 2022 12:09 PM (llON8)

31 Trump's attorneys can probably petition the court to unsealed the affidavit, examine it, and reseal for purposes of filing motions to controvert or suppress. But I deal with 1 specific state's laws, not the feds, so they may do things differently.

Posted by: PabloD at August 10, 2022 12:09 PM (mLlUP)

32 >>>26 but I threepeat myself


You owe me $4.00.

Posted by: Pat Reilly at August 10, 2022 12:09 PM (B3oWe)

33 Someone explain to me how a warrant can be sealed such that the person being raided cannot know what it contains. That seems to violate both the 5th amendment as well as habeas corpus.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 10, 2022 12:08 PM (lTGtQ)
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We are living in a post-Constitutional tyranny.

Didn't you get the memo?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 10, 2022 12:09 PM (YIVH2)

34 I'm really tired of the alleged "Smart Set" on Twitter. Every single day you see them popping off their perfectly-ignorant, uninformed opinions.


Damned right!!!
That's our bailiwick!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 10, 2022 12:09 PM (anj39)

35 I know it's quaint to quote the Constitution, but it's all I got, man

Posted by: DB at August 10, 2022 12:10 PM (geLO8)

36 Or, at least: There is no evidence he has it, and Eric Trump specifically denies he has it.
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See! This is all overblown. They don't need to retract a thing. They assume he has it, and you can't prove that he doesn't, so the argument remains valid.

Just ask them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:10 PM (WWh8n)

37 17 CBS News reports that Trump's attorney confirms that the warrant is "sealed." Meaning, he was not allowed to see examine it.
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Should be flatly illegal in all cases. This "sealed" crap is exactly that. "Sealed" warrants, "sealed" indictments and the like have no place - none, for any reason - in a country comprised of citizens. If the state is going to go after a citizen, the state *must* tell the citizen why, what it is looking for, where it intends to find it, what he is being charged with, etc.

A "sealed warrant" should not exist. That it exists at all tells you all you need to know about the meaning of "citizenship." It does not exist. You are a subject, nothing more.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:07 PM (WWh8n)

Star chamber stuff.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 10, 2022 12:10 PM (b2nrj)

38 Someone explain to me how a warrant can be sealed such that the person being raided cannot know what it contains. That seems to violate both the 5th amendment as well as habeas corpus.

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By a guy serving in a capacity that any of us can serve in as I understand it. Magistrates in our county can be anyone. You work at night after the real judges go home. You don't have to have any legal knowledge or experience.

And you apparently are more powerful than the POTUS.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 12:10 PM (ILqOb)

39 well of course they're all going to copy what the others wrote.

it's hard to type with a dick in your mouth, so they just copy and paste what the first cocksucker puts out and then go back to deep throating whatever monkeypox infected syphilitic asshole they're felching at the time...

Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsXQ) at August 10, 2022 12:10 PM (WhsXQ)

40 It's a Human Centipede of Smugly-Assured Ignorance, one unwarrantedly-confident imbecile shitting into the next unaccountably-selfsure know-nothing's wide-open mouth.
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This revolting and evocative bit of imagery describes NT, to be sure, but also the entire press complex.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:10 PM (WWh8n)

41 Is it legally possible to get a warrant, not provide the warrant, then execute the warrant?

I'm in the dark here.

Posted by: MJ at August 10, 2022 12:10 PM (zwDuR)

42 Out: Restoring Norms

In: Sniffing the former first lady's panties

Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2022 12:11 PM (ESjRY)

43 particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

Posted by: DB at August 10, 2022 12:11 PM (geLO8)

44 "Sealed" warrants, "sealed" indictments and the like have no place - none, for any reason - in a country comprised of citizens.
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But if it's comprised of slaves, different story.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 10, 2022 12:11 PM (SVDV2)

45 How much you wanna bet at least FBI agent tried on Melania's clothes and sniffed her underwear?

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2022 12:11 PM (iFTx/)

46 J schools deserve the Dresden treatment.

Posted by: mr tmz at August 10, 2022 12:11 PM (rJ48h)

47 Eric Trump revealed FBI agents refused to hand over the search warrant for their raid on Mar-a-Lago and kicked an attorney off the property in a new, incisive account of the Monday operation at the Florida estate.

Oh noes! Looks like Daily Mail used the "r" word!

Posted by: kallisto at August 10, 2022 12:11 PM (dCxaZ)

48 With Tim Scott's answers about all this, it's yet another mask ripped off by Trump. - Formerly Virginian

Meh. I was finished with Scott when he couldn't wait to worship before St George Floyd's shrine. The only time we ever heard from Scott was when he was searching around for racism.

Posted by: abbynormal at August 10, 2022 12:11 PM (7/SEv)

49 You have to execute the warrant before you know what's in the warrant.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 10, 2022 12:11 PM (k0T+q)

50 Hillary giving her two cents about this, is the icing on the cr***y cake.I don't do Twitter but I'm guessing people on Twitter gave her the what for.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2022 12:11 PM (wvo9L)

51 Someone explain to me how a warrant can be sealed such that the person being raided cannot know what it contains. That seems to violate both the 5th amendment as well as habeas corpus.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 10, 2022 12:08 PM (lTGtQ)
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Because this is not a republic, and you are not a citizen.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:11 PM (WWh8n)

52 So what you are saying is: Nothing has changed since we found out what, exactly was Journ-o -list and that they have only become even more coordinated since 2008?

Surprise.
Surprise.
Surprise.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma Donald J Trump is our duly elected president at August 10, 2022 12:11 PM (l0Cy4)

53 The paycheck conservative class is much bigger than we imagined.

Know why Hannity, Levin, Ingraham et al haven't called for a General Strike over this WORST THING IN THE WORLD?


Because they're all very wealthy. And they want their luxury protected.

At all costs. Yes, they too will see you off to the camps.

As they scream how outrageous this is.

Posted by: I Mean at August 10, 2022 12:11 PM (9FBGz)

54
How can a magistrate - not even someone who plays a judge on TV - issue a sealed warrant on the President of the United States?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 12:07 PM (ILqOb)


In the thread below someone (but badly formatted) a hostile tweet from this same magistrate about Donald Trump. I'm hoping there are more floating around waiting to be published.

In the beginning I thought it was EITHER a Bush or Obama supporter. It appears he contributed to BOTH.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at August 10, 2022 12:11 PM (jE276)

55 >>Is it legally possible to get a warrant, not provide the warrant, then execute the warrant?

I'm in the dark here.

Posted by: MJ

legally, no
possible? of course!

Posted by: DB at August 10, 2022 12:11 PM (geLO8)

56 Anybody Tweeting that Trump doesn't have a copy of the warrant will have their accounts suspended for spreading misinformation.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 10, 2022 12:09 PM (wUHYj)


LOL, good one.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 10, 2022 12:11 PM (DRSnL)

57 The raid failed so now the talking heads and whores like Whoopi Goldberg have to move the goal posts to "Where's is Trump's copy of the warrant?" then when that fails it will be "Why did Trump set up the FBI?...etc, etc.

Smooth brains will rush from one end of the enclosure to the other following the moving goal posts.

So predictable.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 10, 2022 12:12 PM (2CExO)

58 Is it legally possible to get a warrant, not provide the warrant, then execute the warrant?
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Like legality means anything anymore.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 10, 2022 12:12 PM (SVDV2)

59 18 Also, The Human Centipede is a lot less fun than Silence of the Lambs.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 10, 2022 12:08 PM (XvPQV)

The food scenes were ass.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 10, 2022 12:12 PM (ynpvh)

60
He called the raid another 'coordinated attack' on his father Donald Trump and insisted there is no way President Joe Biden was kept in the dark about the search.

Dark Brandon is always in the dark.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2022 12:12 PM (63Dwl)

61 If there was an opposition party various Democrat politicians in red state would be getting frog marched starting tonight at 4 AM.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2022 12:12 PM (ESjRY)

62 "It's a Human Centipede of Smugly-Assured Ignorance, one unwarrantedly-confident imbecile shitting into the next unaccountably-selfsure know-nothing's wide-open mouth."

Brilliant.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at August 10, 2022 12:12 PM (sI15f)

63 I've never been served a warrant, but I thought it was *required* that you have an opportunity to read it before you allow LEOs into your house/property. So they can literally just show up with a blank piece of paper in a sealed envelope in hand, and claim to have a warrant?

Posted by: Simon Jester at August 10, 2022 12:12 PM (BSu3l)

64 What good is a "sealed" warrant? You might as well not have one. Why is everything that alleged "democracy" brings about here is a secret? How many secrets can there really be? Pretty damned few. A "sealed" warrant sounds, looks, and smells like Rising Authoritarianism, the Thing we're all supposed to be guarding against.

Posted by: Erik In Texas at August 10, 2022 12:12 PM (2Jd8G)

65 And in a few days when we find out that in fact no, he was denied seeing the warrant that there's a damned good reason why the FBI had to make that decision. Because Trump would have released it.

It's an ongoing investigation, don't you know.

[reverb retching noise]

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 10, 2022 12:12 PM (zB/T/)

66 You know at least one of the G men is wanking into Melania's stolen underwear.

Posted by: mr tmz at August 10, 2022 12:12 PM (rJ48h)

67 Hillary giving her two cents about this, is the icing on the cr***y cake.I don't do Twitter but I'm guessing people on Twitter gave her the what for.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2022 12:11 PM (wvo9L)
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I dunno. Probably some, but they were likely overwhelmed with bots shouting YASSSS SLAY QWEEN!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:12 PM (WWh8n)

68
In the thread below someone (but badly formatted) a hostile tweet from this same magistrate about Donald Trump. I'm hoping there are more floating around waiting to be published.

In the beginning I thought it was EITHER a Bush or Obama supporter. It appears he contributed to BOTH.
Posted by: Divide by Zero

*

There are apparently lots and lots of Epstein connections all over it.

The magistrate himself seems to have gotten a pardon IIRC.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 12:13 PM (ILqOb)

69 Deep State Worm Holes. Baffle you with Bullshit. Welcome to the future.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 10, 2022 12:13 PM (Z6LNn)

70 Twitter is the domain of idiots who have no real world knowledge. They only know what someone wrote or told them. It's like telephone for retards. The minute you start to ask material, intellectually based questions you get a blank stare, like Chris Christie at a salad bar. This in fact, describes most of the Democrat Party and their Media Division.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 10, 2022 12:13 PM (mSy8I)

71 Warrant was SEALED. Even the recipient has to ask the Judge to UNSEAL the Warrant, before they can publish it.

Simple internet search would have told these idiots that.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 12:13 PM (oHd/0)

72 our country has melted

broken denotes a chance of repair

this can't be fixed

Posted by: REDACTED at August 10, 2022 12:13 PM (us2H3)

73 Whig, Nooded on the last thread, but thanks for the good response about rights of a citizen to videotape on his own property.

Posted by: RM at August 10, 2022 12:13 PM (0eYOS)

74 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 12:13 PM (Zz0t1)

75 Warrants are sometimes sealed because there is an ongoing investigation, and disclosure of information in the affidavit could jeopardize that investigation.
I'm not justifying anything here; I don't have any information other than what's online. I'm just explaining things that people may not consider.

Posted by: PabloD at August 10, 2022 12:13 PM (mLlUP)

76 Deep State Worm Holes. Baffle you with Bullshit. Welcome to the future.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 10, 2022 12:13 PM (Z6LNn)
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Every day that passes, I give more credence to the notion that the Large Hadron Collider ripped a hole in spacetime and thrust us into a bizarre parallel dimension.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:13 PM (WWh8n)

77 When it comes out Trump didn't have the warrant it won't matter. The narrative has already been set and the low IQs will keep repeating it.

Posted by: abbynormal at August 10, 2022 12:13 PM (7/SEv)

78 Is it legally possible to get a warrant, not provide the warrant, then execute the warrant?


..

Only in free and open countries.

/

Posted by: I Mean at August 10, 2022 12:13 PM (9FBGz)

79 How is this not a violation of Trump’s due process?
He should sue the 30 ham&eggers along w Ray and Garlic

Posted by: FIB = KGB at August 10, 2022 12:13 PM (YTBIQ)

80 Willowed -

423 Still no official comment about the raid from DoJ or FBI. My totally unreliable Spidey Sense tells me they are waiting to make a public statement until they are ready to announce the raid discovered and confiscated (fill-in-the-blank) materials Trump illegally had in his personal possession. They need some time to prepare fancy slides depicting the items along with damning accusations. Tomorrow afternoon, I think.

Posted by: Gref at August 10, 2022 12:09 PM (AMIL/)

Posted by: Gref at August 10, 2022 12:13 PM (AMIL/)

81 Donnie should have drained the swamp when he had the chance.
And then he could have called the American people to arms and stopped this all, but instead he pardoned rappers and Israeli spies while fundraising for the past 2 years as his J6 supporters have sat in prison. Fuck him. Never again.

Posted by: Jimmy Crack Corn at August 10, 2022 12:14 PM (aQXw5)

82 Ari Fleischer
@Ari Fleischer
Handwritten FBI notes show this statement by Biden is false. In January 2017, VP Biden in an Oval Office meeting with DoJ raised using the Logan Act to go after Flynn.
Bear this in mind when Biden denies knowledge of the Mar-a-Lago raid.
Qs for the WH today:

1) You say Pres. Biden doesn't comment on DoJ criminal probes. Why then did he publicly call for the prosecution of anyone who doesn't cooperate with the 1/6 committee?
2) Why did he raise the Logan Act in a Jan. 2017 Oval Office meeting with DoJ to discuss How to handle Michael Flynn.

3) Why did he pre-ordain the outcome of a DHS investigation into mounted Border Patrol officers by promising "consequences"?
Joe Biden has a history of seeking certain outcomes in government investigations, so why should we believe he knows nothing and has privately said nothing about this investigation?

Posted by: redridinghood at August 10, 2022 12:14 PM (NpAcC)

83 SO-

when does the FBI start leaking the manufactured 'damning' evidence? We need to see something before the weekend

Posted by: DB at August 10, 2022 12:14 PM (geLO8)

84 I've been practicing law for a long time and never before now heard of a warrant that was "sealed" FROM THE TARGET OF THE WARRANT. Warrants can be sealed from the public, sure. But I've never heard of a situation where agents come to your home, tell you they have a warrant to search your shit, but refuse to show you the warrant on the grounds that it's sealed. If such a thing actually exists, surely it would be limited to only the most extraordinary circumstances.

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2022 12:14 PM (iFTx/)

85 Somebody in that house was given a copy of the search warrant.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 10, 2022 12:14 PM (bVYXr)

86 I dunno. Probably some, but they were likely overwhelmed with bots shouting YASSSS SLAY QWEEN!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:12 PM (WWh8n)

Slay queen is appropriate with her body count...

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at August 10, 2022 12:14 PM (53oGX)

87 "Rick Wilson
@TheRickWilson
Why hasn't Trump released a copy of the warrant that was served at Mar A Lago?"

It's hiding in your Confederate Flag cooler. Right ext where your wife keeps the anal lube.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 10, 2022 12:14 PM (mSy8I)

88 So they get a SEALED warrant from an anti-Trump, Epstein-connected MAGISTRATE Judge? What are the odds?


If the Mag. isn't in the bag already, I'd not be surprised to learn that someone leaned on him.

Posted by: LASue at August 10, 2022 12:14 PM (Ed8Zd)

89 Warrants are sometimes sealed because there is an ongoing investigation, and disclosure of information in the affidavit could jeopardize that investigation.
I'm not justifying anything here; I don't have any information other than what's online. I'm just explaining things that people may not consider.
Posted by: PabloD at August 10, 2022 12:13 PM (mLlUP)
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There is always an ongoing investigation. You don't get a warrant if you're not investigating something. But when they go to serve that warrant, it had damn well better be handed over to the subject of the search.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:14 PM (WWh8n)

90 60
He called the raid another 'coordinated attack' on his father Donald Trump and insisted there is no way President Joe Biden was kept in the dark about the search.

Dark Brandon is always in the dark.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2022 12:12 PM (63Dwl)

no light bulbs to change, just diapers.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 10, 2022 12:15 PM (ynpvh)

91 From what I am reading, no warrant was ever produced.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, with capers at August 10, 2022 12:16 PM (jTmQV)

92 63 I've never been served a warrant, but I thought it was *required* that you have an opportunity to read it before you allow LEOs into your house/property. So they can literally just show up with a blank piece of paper in a sealed envelope in hand, and claim to have a warrant?

Posted by: Simon Jester at August 10, 2022 12:12 PM (BSu3l)

Toilet paper they recently used, for all I know.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 10, 2022 12:16 PM (ynpvh)

93 Willowed:

Heard somebody mention today that the FIB turned off Trump's video surveillance cameras at MAL, which would normally get the case and everything confiscated tossed out by a judge.

Of course, these are not normal times ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 10, 2022 12:16 PM (3HkEt)

94 NeverTrump is shit and they will always be shit. You're rich, I'll grant you, but it's blood money.

You'll enjoy Judgement Day for your actions.

I will take pity on your soul because it's not it's fault you're a filthy pack of greedy assholes.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 12:16 PM (Zz0t1)

95 Gloria Tang.....VERY well named bikini model.
Just to lighten the mood with slow motion jiggles
https://youtu.be/JA9kefsX3fo

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 10, 2022 12:16 PM (XvPQV)

96 I read on Twitter, and sent the link to ace, that the magistrate who signed off on the search warrant had slammed Trump on Facebook.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 10, 2022 12:16 PM (2sLB8)

97 yeah, sealed warrant sounds like cart blanche to go digging for anything

Posted by: DB at August 10, 2022 12:16 PM (geLO8)

98 You know at least one of the G men is wanking into Melania's stolen underwear.

That's assuming they're straight.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2022 12:16 PM (ZGrMX)

99 64 What good is a "sealed" warrant? You might as well not have one. Why is everything that alleged "democracy" brings about here is a secret? How many secrets can there really be? Pretty damned few. A "sealed" warrant sounds, looks, and smells like Rising Authoritarianism, the Thing we're all supposed to be guarding against.

Posted by: Erik In Texas at August 10, 2022 12:12 PM (2Jd8G)

Civil Asset Forfeiture. Another shining gem of jurisprudence.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 10, 2022 12:16 PM (ynpvh)

100 So we know one thing for sure: the phony J6 clown show was a complete bust

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2022 12:17 PM (iFTx/)

101
Posted by: Jimmy Crack Corn at August 10, 2022 12:14 PM (aQXw5)

You seem nice, person that has never posted here previously.

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at August 10, 2022 12:17 PM (53oGX)

102 And then he could have called the American people to arms and stopped this all,

lolol

yes the patriotic strong American people who cowered in their homes and faithfully lined up to get jabbed because some bogus gremlin told them to

Sure sure the raping and pillaging would have been epic I'm sure. Once everyone was assured they were properly PPE'd.

Posted by: kallisto at August 10, 2022 12:17 PM (dCxaZ)

103 Well, one's a lawyer, though. There are professional consequences to lying.

Sure, absolutely.

Posted by: Democrat lawyers at August 10, 2022 12:17 PM (Yr4Df)

104 66 You know at least one of the G men is wanking into Melania's stolen underwear.

Posted by: mr tmz at August 10, 2022 12:12 PM (rJ48h)

Be funny if security cameras were on and captured it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 10, 2022 12:17 PM (ynpvh)

105 Searching Melania's clothes is a *great* detail to release. Changes the whole emotional pull of the story and can't be papered over.

Has that skin crawling vibe that will ring with many females who may have thought they were non-political.

Men in suits sniffing through Melania's underwear is not a good look for the Party of Women. Too bad it's Republican cockshitters that will benefit.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 12:17 PM (/6Rxy)

106 I read on Twitter, and sent the link to ace, that the magistrate who signed off on the search warrant had slammed Trump on Facebook.

He donated to Jeb, which may be even more pathetic than Jeb's actual campaign.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2022 12:17 PM (ZGrMX)

107
...and creating an information vacuum that supporters have filled with threats and accusations.

^
Please take note of this Fake sub-narrative they're also pushing.

You and others getting angry at the lawless and weaponized DOJ means Trump is creating a violent situation (insurrection) and You are "a threat to democracy." Again.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 10, 2022 12:18 PM (gwQC+)

108 A warrant that can't be read by the subject, or his attorney?

What's even the point, then? Just dispense with the whole formality of a warrant, since it amounts to the same thing.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2022 12:18 PM (Luf6q)

109 There is always an ongoing investigation. You don't get a warrant if you're not investigating something. But when they go to serve that warrant, it had damn well better be handed over to the subject of the search.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:14 PM (WWh8n)

The very idea that the TARGET can't see the Subpoena, which shows what the TARGET of that document is... says there are no protections in place...

Rights are now moot... gonzo.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 12:18 PM (oHd/0)

110 I am sick to death of these little page ads that a little spoon of brown powder can make me look like a skinny gurl.

Posted by: Some Stupid With a Flare Gun at August 10, 2022 12:18 PM (aoFfE)

111 Why is it our side is always having to prove a negative?

I'm not a racist
I'm not a bigot
I don't have the warrant
I didn't say that
I didn't do that

Why do we always have to prove innocence ?

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 10, 2022 12:18 PM (C2QwQ)

112 And I was about to ask whig if it was certain the Trump side would have the warrant. Understandably there seems to be a lot of uncertainty/lack of knowledge about the mechanics here.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 10, 2022 12:19 PM (OTzUX)

113 Dark Brandon sees a light at the end of the tunnel.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 10, 2022 12:19 PM (44ww/)

114 What's the "J.D. from Twitter Uni with a minor in Hot Takes" crowd's reason why the DOJ, FBI and DNC-- who all have copies of the warrent-- are not releasing a copy?

Why is the burden solely on the ... accused? And not the accuser?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 10, 2022 12:19 PM (Zf0+a)

115 Human centipede of smugly assured idiots.

Who's the lead asshole?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 12:19 PM (mZ3xv)

116 Scene from "The Rape of Mar-a-Lago"

FBI: We have a warrant.
Trump Attorney: May I see it?
FBI: Sure. *Holds warrant at arm's length inches from Attorney's face.*
Trump Attorney: May I hold it in my hands?
FBI: No! Neener neener neener.

***End Scene***

We are governed by children.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 10, 2022 12:19 PM (wUHYj)

117 >>>3 I've never been served a warrant, but I thought it was *required* that you have an opportunity to read it before you allow LEOs into your house/property. So they can literally just show up with a blank piece of paper in a sealed envelope in hand, and claim to have a warrant?

That's what I thought but I dunno, they seem to be making up a lot of law On The Special for Trump. Who knows, national security.

I didn't think you could get an order to spy on a presidential candidate based on an op file submitted by his opponent, either.

Posted by: ace at August 10, 2022 12:19 PM (B3oWe)

118 Men in suits sniffing through Melania's underwear is not a good look for the Party of Women. Too bad it's Republican cockshitters that will benefit.
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 12:17 PM (/6Rxy)

Now, release the video...

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 12:19 PM (oHd/0)

119 The defense of Biden being "in the dark" about the raid just killed the Dark Brandon meme. It was good while it lasted boys. Stepped on your own dicks again.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 12:19 PM (/6Rxy)

120
A "sealed warrant" should not exist. That it exists at all tells you all you need to know about the meaning of "citizenship." It does not exist. You are a subject, nothing more.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:07 PM (WWh8n)



Literally everything about THIS.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 12:20 PM (Zz0t1)

121 The other thing that occurs to me is that (I'm not a lawyer so may be off base) wouldn't it make perfect sense that when something momentous like this is dropped on you out of the blue...that you would have your own team of lawyers do a thorough review of every aspect and angle of this thing before releasing anything for public scrutiny?

Posted by: RM at August 10, 2022 12:20 PM (0eYOS)

122 Warrants are sometimes sealed because there is an ongoing investigation, and disclosure of information in the affidavit could jeopardize that investigation.
I'm not justifying anything here; I don't have any information other than what's online. I'm just explaining things that people may not consider.
Posted by: PabloD at August 10, 2022 12:13 PM (mLlUP)

Seems like an exception that swallows the Constitutional rule.

Posted by: LASue at August 10, 2022 12:20 PM (Ed8Zd)

123 Trolls are getting stupider by the minute

Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 12:20 PM (bs+z0)

124 From what I am reading, no warrant was ever produced.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, with capers at August 10, 2022 12:16 PM


If that is true then this was an illegal search. There has to be copies of that warrant someplace other than with the fib. The court has to file it, while they can keep it sealed there is still a warrant someplace. Trump can demand that they produce it or file a civil suit against the Court that issued the warrant.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 10, 2022 12:20 PM (bVYXr)

125 Unemployed rando loser on Twitter:

Joe Walsh
@WalshFreedom

Trump has the warrant. He could release it.


---------

Life's been good to him so far.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 10, 2022 12:20 PM (3HkEt)

126 This has the capacity to destroy the Republican controlled opposition and the Regime itself.

Good.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 10, 2022 12:20 PM (nMx88)

127 117 >>>3 I've never been served a warrant, but I thought it was *required* that you have an opportunity to read it before you allow LEOs into your house/property. So they can literally just show up with a blank piece of paper in a sealed envelope in hand, and claim to have a warrant?

That's what I thought but I dunno, they seem to be making up a lot of law On The Special for Trump. Who knows, national security.

I didn't think you could get an order to spy on a presidential candidate based on an op file submitted by his opponent, either.
Posted by: ace at August 10, 2022 12:19 PM (B3oWe)

Well the only penalty for breaking the law is additional training and maybe a frownie face on a review.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 10, 2022 12:20 PM (b2nrj)

128 No comment from the DOJ or FBI is telling.

Either they fucked up so bad they have to keep quiet or they are doing this solely to provoke a response.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 12:20 PM (mZ3xv)

129 We should all trust the FBI. They are the most ethical and moral men and women we have in America.

Posted by: Sean Hannity at August 10, 2022 12:20 PM (u4CEu)

130 This has a very simple rebuttal: the Garland/ Klain justice system and most of its lawyers will tear down all of America's laws on a pretext, but won't go after the Epstein clients. This is because they are all part of the same tribe.

What we know of the warrant (it wasn't even signed by a proper federal judge) is highly irregular, and that's before it was targeted against the real President. So it course the New York tribe wants to hide it until it's "old news."

Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 12:20 PM (VX5aH)

131 What good are lawyers in a nation of men, not laws?

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 10, 2022 12:20 PM (SVDV2)

132 If such a thing actually exists, surely it would be limited to only the most extraordinary circumstances.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2022 12:14 PM (iFTx/)
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"Extraordinary circumstance" will be the exact reason why they are denying Trump the opportunity to examine the warrant.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 10, 2022 12:20 PM (YIVH2)

133 Cruel Ace is the best Ace.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 10, 2022 12:21 PM (QSjkU)

134 Posted by: rhomboid at August 10, 2022 12:19 PM (OTzUX)

If their side is claiming it, you can just about always be certain it's not true.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 12:21 PM (/6Rxy)

135 Magistrate “Reinhart also shared a post in October of 2017 from a facebook group called ‘WokeFolks’ explaining white privilege, using the metaphor of running a race with different starting lines.”
https://tinyurl.com/2z66qsn3

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 10, 2022 12:21 PM (sa0BZ)

136 What's even the point, then? Just dispense with the whole formality of a warrant, since it amounts to the same thing.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2022 12:18 PM (Luf6q)
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Right, exactly. Warrants and indictments and shit are legal stuff that the state must go through to protect the rights of citizens. It happens in at least pseudo-free systems.

We don't have that. We're a tyranny full of subjects, not a republic full of citizens. Protections of the individual citizen against the state are irrelevant in a system in which there are no citizens.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:21 PM (WWh8n)

137 Maybe the don't actually have a warrant and don't give a fuck if you ask for it.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 12:21 PM (mZ3xv)

138 119 The defense of Biden being "in the dark" about the raid just killed the Dark Brandon meme. It was good while it lasted boys. Stepped on your own dicks again.
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 12:19 PM (/6Rxy)

Which is quite the feat considering how small they are

Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 12:21 PM (bs+z0)

139 I have some undies the FBI can go thru...

Posted by: Jerry Nadler, Sload King at August 10, 2022 12:21 PM (2CExO)

140 They don't care if they're proven wrong. Adam Carolla had the best take on that narcissism.

When you present an undeniable fact to these lunatics they always respond with ' yeah, but still....'

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 10, 2022 12:21 PM (nY6ib)

141 didn't think you could get an order to spy on a presidential candidate based on an op file submitted by his opponent, either.
Posted by: ace at August 10, 2022 12:19 PM (B3oWe)

There it is.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 12:21 PM (/6Rxy)

142 Gloria Tang.....VERY well named bikini model.
Just to lighten the mood with slow motion jiggles
https://youtu.be/JA9kefsX3fo
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 10, 2022 12:16 PM (XvPQV)



You're such a giver.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 12:21 PM (Zz0t1)

143 110 I am sick to death of these little page ads that a little spoon of brown powder can make me look like a skinny gurl.

Posted by: Some Stupid With a Flare Gun at August 10, 2022 12:18 PM (aoFfE)

I certainly don't want to look like one.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 10, 2022 12:21 PM (ynpvh)

144 Regardless, releasing the warrant isn't likely to tell us much, just what they're looking for and where they can look for it. We want the affidavit in support of the warrant. That's where the beef is.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at August 10, 2022 12:22 PM (FVME7)

145 Magistrate “Reinhart also shared a post in October of 2017 from a facebook group called ‘WokeFolks’ explaining white privilege, using the metaphor of running a race with different starting lines.”
https://tinyurl.com/2z66qsn3
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 10, 2022 12:21 PM (sa0BZ)

Of course. Look at how much of the media white people control.

Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 12:22 PM (VX5aH)

146 133 Cruel Ace is the best Ace.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 10, 2022 12:21 PM (QSjkU)

It is known

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 10, 2022 12:22 PM (XvPQV)

147 oh, and the DOJ must have the "warrant". Why the hell don't they just "release it"?

(yeah, rhetorical question)

Posted by: Some Stupid With a Flare Gun at August 10, 2022 12:22 PM (aoFfE)

148 This so-called warrant was never even seen by a judge. The only third party who has evidently seen it is corrupted by pedo-taint, and previously reportedly recused himself from a Trump matter (but not this time, for some reason).

To all this, Lavrenti "Beria" Garland replies "show me the magistrate and I'll show you my file on him", and laughs madly as the Republic burns.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2022 12:22 PM (Luf6q)

149 128 No comment from the DOJ or FBI is telling.

Either they fucked up so bad they have to keep quiet or they are doing this solely to provoke a response.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 12:20 PM (mZ3xv)

Both I'd guess

Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 12:22 PM (bs+z0)

150
And this is why I say Twitter exists, chiefly, to be a Fake Preference Cascade Generator.

It's a big internet platform for hundreds of Liars and thousands of Bots to keep Parroting the Lie-Of-The-Day.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 10, 2022 12:22 PM (gwQC+)

151 25 Someone explain to me how a warrant can be sealed such that the person being raided cannot know what it contains. That seems to violate both the 5th amendment as well as habeas corpus.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 10, 2022 12:08 PM (lTGtQ)


How many divisions does the Supreme Court Have?

Posted by: MERRICK "BERIA" GARLANDARLAND at August 10, 2022 12:22 PM (z9V4B)

152 If that is true then this was an illegal search. There has to be copies of that warrant someplace other than with the fib. The court has to file it, while they can keep it sealed there is still a warrant someplace. Trump can demand that they produce it or file a civil suit against the Court that issued the warrant.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 10, 2022 12:20 PM (bVYXr)

Some court oversees the Magistrate Court.

Why is not someone in front of THAT COURT on an emergency basis, asking for review of what the Magistrate did?

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 12:22 PM (oHd/0)

153 I have some undies the FBI can go thru...
Posted by: Jerry Nadler, Sload King at August 10, 2022 12:21 PM (2CExO)
++++
Five men to a pair!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:22 PM (WWh8n)

154 101 You seem nice, person that has never posted here previously
Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at August 10, 2022 12:17 PM (53oGX)

Is anything I posted not true?


Posted by: Jimmy Crack Corn at August 10, 2022 12:23 PM (aQXw5)

155 8 Wait, don't the cops have to present the warrant?

Or are we just at straight NKVD territory? Oh wait, even the NKVD had warrants.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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The feebs are relying on the slender reed of classified information is my guess. Often the feebs inject extraneous classified information into documents in order to prevent public review of those documents.

Since the argument is apparently over whether DJT has classified documents (he apparently declassified them) in his possession or not, I am sure that the Feebs stupidly put some of that information into the warrant itself to justify withholding it from the media and Trump's lawyers.

The problem for the Feebs is that this won't play out in the DC home court but rather in the 11th Circuit which has an originalist tilt.

Posted by: whig at August 10, 2022 12:23 PM (CXr4y)

156 Next coordinated message: "TRUMP TOOK THE 5TH!!!". Because as we all know, the only people who take the 5th are criminals, obviously.

Posted by: Mookie at August 10, 2022 12:23 PM (7Mqc1)

157 I read on Twitter, and sent the link to ace, that the magistrate who signed off on the search warrant had slammed Trump on Facebook.

He donated to Jeb, which may be even more pathetic than Jeb's actual campaign.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2022 12:17 PM (ZGrMX)

I saw that too. Said Trump was basically a low life who isn't fit to tie some civil right's guys shoes. And reposted some other anti Trump stuff. It's just amazing they were able to find him in town and with a pen in his hand.

Posted by: LASue at August 10, 2022 12:23 PM (Ed8Zd)

158 Andrew Weissmann on Twitter: The FBI is required to give to Trump an inventory of what was found in the search; if Trump claims he had no govt property in his home and this is a witch hunt, then he should release the search inventory. Time to put up or shut up......6:22 pm, yesterday

CNN (Kara Scannell), 8/10, 11/55 am - Former President Donald Trump invokes Fifth Amendment rights and declines to answer questions from NY attorney general
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"They" are pounding relentlessly, in every direction... to trip him up.

Posted by: Lola at August 10, 2022 12:23 PM (NIYa7)

159 "Staff refused..."

A sign of a man who treats his staff well

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 10, 2022 12:23 PM (hK0vJ)

160 129 We should all trust the FBI. They are the most ethical and moral men and women we have in America.

Posted by: Sean Hannity at August 10, 2022 12:20 PM (u4CEu)

What does that say about the rest of Gov't?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 10, 2022 12:23 PM (ynpvh)

161 yeah, sealed warrant sounds like cart blanche to go digging for anything
Posted by: DB at August 10, 2022 12:16 PM (geLO

We are here to check if you removed the tags from your mattresses then we found all this stuff

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 10, 2022 12:23 PM (S+j2h)

162 I would assume Trump's lawyers have a copy of the warrant and its not impossible the FBI instructed them to not make it public.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 12:23 PM (Ivdso)

163 And thanks Ace for the human centipede reference while I'm eating lunch...

Posted by: Mookie at August 10, 2022 12:23 PM (7Mqc1)

164 That's what I thought but I dunno, they seem to be making up a lot of law On The Special for Trump. Who knows, national security.
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It's all in the double-secret clauses in the Constitution.

They are only revealed in the last light of Durin's Day, when the thrush knocks.

They should do a better job of teaching Constitutional history in schools.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 10, 2022 12:23 PM (YIVH2)

165 Pretty sure the secret service has already done that. It is a routine part of their job.
Posted by: Mister Scott


Like the boffo job they did in Dealey Plaza.


Posted by: Archer at August 10, 2022 12:23 PM (gmo/4)

166 This raid was approved by a magistrate, not even a judge.
A picture of him is on CFP site. He looks about like you would expect.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, with capers at August 10, 2022 12:24 PM (jTmQV)

167 Dark Stains Brandon

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 10, 2022 12:24 PM (Y5qcH)

168 and what crimes they believe were broken.
-----------
You break a law. You don't break a crime.

Idiot.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 10, 2022 12:24 PM (aaGzp)

169 Trust me....In the end this will not work out the way most people think. It will be amazing in the end. Just sit tight and don't do anything stupid in the meantime.

Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at August 10, 2022 12:24 PM (qjI+U)

170 Ace may soon need to move from Cruel to Apoplectic.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 12:24 PM (mZ3xv)

171 Some court oversees the Magistrate Court.

Why is not someone in front of THAT COURT on an emergency basis, asking for review of what demanding that the Magistrate did be loaded into a trebuchet and fired toward the ocean?
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 12:22 PM (oHd/0)
++++
FIFY

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:24 PM (WWh8n)

172 He called the raid another 'coordinated attack' on his father Donald Trump and insisted there is no way President Joe Biden was kept in the dark about the search.

I mean at this point they don't even have to worry about keeping him in the dark. They could have told him and he would likely forget it 10 minutes later, or reply "You're getting Warrant? I loved Cherry Pie, that girl looked like she had sweet-smelling hair".

Posted by: Democrat lawyers at August 10, 2022 12:24 PM (Yr4Df)

173 Next coordinated message: "TRUMP TOOK THE 5TH!!!". Because as we all know, the only people who take the 5th are criminals, obviously.
Posted by: Mookie at August 10, 2022 12:23 PM (7Mqc1)



Lois Lerner proved that you can PLEAD the 5th, but still state your case before shutting your mouth. Right? RIGHT?!?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 12:24 PM (Zz0t1)

174 "Reinhart made a post in July of 2017 defending criminal justice reform, saying that it was “embarassing” to live in a state less englightend on reform efforts than Louisiana and Mississippi."
https://tinyurl.com/2jzk7otp

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 10, 2022 12:24 PM (sa0BZ)

175 137 Maybe the don't actually have a warrant and don't give a fuck if you ask for it.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 12:21 PM (mZ3xv)

If not signed by the proper authority, then no, they didn't have a warrant.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 10, 2022 12:24 PM (ynpvh)

176 166 This raid was approved by a magistrate, not even a judge.
A picture of him is on CFP site. He looks about like you would expect.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, with capers at August 10, 2022 12:24 PM (jTmQV


Like he puts peanut butter on his asscrack and let's the dog inside?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 12:24 PM (mZ3xv)

177 Andrew Weissmann on Twitter:

Posted by: Lola at August 10, 2022 12:23 PM (NIYa7)

Termites remain a threat until you kill them.

Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 12:24 PM (VX5aH)

178 I always wanted Trump or his press secretary to kick out the entire media for one month and have only high school student newspaper writers and editors attend the press briefings.

The media is the problem. They need to be confronted, challenged and humiliated at every turn. Interviews with the media have to stop being seen by our side as traditional forms of public discourse and as opportunities to destroy them, by whatever rhetorical means necessary.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 10, 2022 12:24 PM (H8QX8)

179 Its pretty odd take: if he doesn't show everyone the warrant (which nobody ever does) then he's guilty. That feels a bit desperate and definitely coordinated, with all of them spooting the same line.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 12:25 PM (Ivdso)

180 139 I have some undies the FBI can go thru...

Posted by: Jerry Nadler, Sload King at August 10, 2022 12:21 PM (2CExO)

Depends...

Posted by: Joey at August 10, 2022 12:25 PM (ynpvh)

181 If you want to know what they were looking for, it's rather obvious. Witches.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 10, 2022 12:25 PM (QSjkU)

182 I've been wondering why no leaks ?

Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 12:25 PM (bs+z0)

183 "There are professional consequences to lying."


HAHAHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

*deep breath*

AHAHAHAHAHhHHhHHH!!!!!

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 10, 2022 12:25 PM (hK0vJ)

184 Has to be someone who knows if you are served do you get a copy? Did the Pa Congressmen who had his phone taken by the Federal Bureau of Intimidation get a copy why?Doesn't sound like he had got one

Posted by: Skip's phone at August 10, 2022 12:25 PM (ISPXD)

185 I'm really tired of the alleged "Smart Set" on Twitter. Every single day you see them popping off their perfectly-ignorant, uninformed opinions. They do not read cases, they do not read original documents. They just read twitter.

--------

Out: Ministry of Truth.
In: Ministry of Twitter.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 10, 2022 12:25 PM (3HkEt)

186 Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 12:17 PM (/6Rxy)

People feel incredibly violated when their home is invaded. even when the clothes are left on a rack or in drawers, but creepy people pawing them is just repellent.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2022 12:25 PM (wvo9L)

187
Time to Beg Some Questions:

1. This "magistrate" hack cocksucker certainly is accountable to a Higher federal bench, yes? The local Circuit Court? Then why aren't they looking into this malfeasance?

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 10, 2022 12:25 PM (gwQC+)

188 LOOK-

the DOJ will release the warrant just as soon as they manufacture the evidence to support it-
c'mon, we've seen this show before

Posted by: DB at August 10, 2022 12:25 PM (geLO8)

189 Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 12:24 PM (VX5aH)

Which is metaphorical advice about local pest control, not incitement.

Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 12:25 PM (VX5aH)

190 I postulate that the FBI did not have "all their ducks in a row" and launched the raid prematurely. I also have a hard time believing the claims being made that the FBI left with 15 boxes of what some are saying are documents. If nothing else, you'd think in this day and age anything worth keeping safe would be on an encrypted thumb drive or SSD in an innocuous location.

But... yea, the Feds are sorting through the stuff they took looking for anything they can pin on Trump.

And lastly, it'd be welcomed if Trump himself lent a bit of clarity and spin on this to get ahead of the narrative that will emerge. I know what his kid said, and that he was allegedly there, but he wasn't the target of the raid either.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 10, 2022 12:25 PM (BFigT)

191 Trump losing so bigly, so strongly. No one has lost like this before, ever. A big strong guy came up, tears in his eyes, and said I never knew anyone could lose like that.

Posted by: Boffo the Clown at August 10, 2022 12:25 PM (jMHBP)

192 Some court oversees the Magistrate Court.

Why is not someone in front of THAT COURT on an emergency basis, asking for review of what the Magistrate did?
Posted by: Romeo13

*

"Oh, gosh, sorry, won't happen again. Hey, we found this stuff and it's illegal and now we're pursuing legal action against Trump. He can sue later if he wants."

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 12:25 PM (ILqOb)

193 Trust me....In the end this will not work out the way most people think. It will be amazing in the end. Just sit tight and don't do anything stupid in the meantime.

But I only do stupid things.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at August 10, 2022 12:26 PM (Bd6X8)

194 The defense of Biden being "in the dark" about the raid just killed the Dark Brandon meme. It was good while it lasted boys. Stepped on your own dicks again.

It was dead before that when White House officials posted a Dark Brandon meme with the Nazi eagle. Whooops.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2022 12:26 PM (ZGrMX)

195 Someone asked an interesting question earlier. Why were the FBI agents all wearing antifa backpacks?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 12:26 PM (ILqOb)

196 Imagine still believing you're going to vote your way out of this.

Posted by: Jimmy Crack Corn at August 10, 2022 12:26 PM (aQXw5)

197 I didn't think you could get an order to spy on a presidential candidate based on an op file submitted by his opponent, either.
Posted by: ace at August 10, 2022 12:19 PM (B3oWe)



*Cackles maniacally*

Posted by: Shrillery, Who Will Not Die at August 10, 2022 12:26 PM (Ed8Zd)

198 153 I have some undies the FBI can go thru...
Posted by: Jerry Nadler, Sload King at August 10, 2022 12:21 PM (2CExO)
++++
Five men to a pair!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:22 PM (WWh8n)

Underpants FBI?

1. Get illegal warrant
2. Search Underwear
3. Conviction!

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 12:26 PM (oHd/0)

199 64 What good is a "sealed" warrant? You might as well not have one. Why is everything that alleged "democracy" brings about here is a secret? How many secrets can there really be? Pretty damned few. A "sealed" warrant sounds, looks, and smells like Rising Authoritarianism, the Thing we're all supposed to be guarding against.

Posted by: Erik In Texas at August 10, 2022 12:12 PM (2Jd8G)


Welp, if this sealed-no copy-to-Trump search warrant story is true, a suspicious person might conclude the warrant will be re-written (or written for the first time) and back-dated, to include a description of materials obtained in the fishing expedition raid, to make everything appear all legal- and Constitutiuonal-like.

Magistrate Epstein-enabler will be happy to cooperate in the charade.

Posted by: Gref at August 10, 2022 12:27 PM (AMIL/)

200 Oh wow, we have a troll *and* a moby!

Everyone say Hi!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 10, 2022 12:27 PM (llON8)

201 >>>183 "There are professional consequences to lying."


HAHAHAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!


...

for people associated with Trump or opposed to The Regime, I mean

Posted by: ace at August 10, 2022 12:27 PM (B3oWe)

202 I still don't get why anyone uses Twitter. Sort of Tik Tok for old people.

Posted by: Eeyore at August 10, 2022 12:27 PM (TgBWG)

203 I saw Aloha September open up for Divine back in 1985

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 12:27 PM (/6Rxy)

204 ... the former president's son said the 30 agents who arrived at the property asked staff to turn security cameras off -- but they refused.

--------

Crap, strike my earlier misinformed comment (yeah, I know, which one?)

There actually are advantages to reading the post first!

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 10, 2022 12:27 PM (3HkEt)

205
It was dead before that when White House officials posted a Dark Brandon meme with the Nazi eagle. Whooops.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2022 12:26 PM (ZGrMX)



Saying the silent part out loud......

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 12:27 PM (Zz0t1)

206 Why is not someone in front of THAT COURT on an emergency basis, asking for review of what the Magistrate did?
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 12:22 PM (oHd/0)

Because the United States now is a fascist dictatorship that deserves to be wiped off the face of the Earth? Remember, the FISA judges did not even FUCKING READ the affidavits put in front of them, and that bastion of decency John Roberts did absolutely nothing about it although he oversees that shitshow.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 10, 2022 12:27 PM (nMx88)

207 The media is the problem. They need to be confronted, challenged and humiliated at every turn.


Posted by: Ordinary American at August 10, 2022 12:24 PM (H8QX

Nope. Alex Jones treatment. Deplatform them, seize their assets, jail them. If they remain a threat, add their families to the cells.

Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 12:27 PM (VX5aH)

208 We gotta get better quality trolls

Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 12:27 PM (bs+z0)

209 156 Next coordinated message: "TRUMP TOOK THE 5TH!!!". Because as we all know, the only people who take the 5th are criminals, obviously.

Posted by: Mookie at August 10, 2022 12:23 PM (7Mqc1)

"I want my laywer". Good words. Then shut up.

Posted by: Joey at August 10, 2022 12:27 PM (ynpvh)

210 hey- remember when our biggest national problem was naughty song lyrics? ah, youth

Posted by: DB at August 10, 2022 12:27 PM (geLO8)

211 Hillary already had merchandise lined up to sell after the raid. Almost like she knew it was coming.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 10, 2022 12:27 PM (Y5qcH)

212 >>> 202 I still don't get why anyone uses Twitter. Sort of Tik Tok for old people.
Posted by: Eeyore at August 10, 2022 12:27 PM (TgBWG)

Yes, use TikTok. Is cool.

Posted by: CHYna at August 10, 2022 12:27 PM (llON8)

213 I know we are now a banana republic and actual laws don't matter. But could one of the lawyers explain WTH a "sealed warrant" is? and how any agent can just wave something they claim is a sealed warrant and use it to violate the 4th amemdment without giving the property owner or their staff a chance to review the so-called warrant? Cuz its BS. The feds could have a PCH lottery in an envelope and shove their way in. Oh sure "any evidence obtained without a valid warrant can't be used at a trial" AS IF they couldn't get some flunky to fake a warrant later if they were even looking for evidence and not just out to steal shit.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at August 10, 2022 12:28 PM (3cGpq)

214 "Well, one's a lawyer, though. There are professional consequences to lying."

Only if you have the wrong sort of client.

If you're, say, Michael Sussman, then lying is a Noble and Patriotic Act Motivated By Love of Country.

Posted by: Cybernetic at August 10, 2022 12:28 PM (xawZJ)

215 Sealed warrants Fed Crim R 41e vs Crim R 6 e

in the pre-indictment phase, there exists a question as to whether there is a right to review - if the govt says it will impact witness safety or the investigation they can get it sealed. After indictment you can motion to unseal in some districts - there are splits in when and to what extent you can find out. Trump does not have the search warrant. Twitter is the asshole of the world.

Posted by: it is the work of a moment to educate oneself these days using the computer, this horsehit is an OP at August 10, 2022 12:28 PM (BT3ar)

216 I'm really tired of the alleged "Smart Set" on Twitter. Every single day you see them popping off their perfectly-ignorant, uninformed opinions. They do not read cases, they do not read original documents. They just read twitter.

They're trying to cancel Metallica now. *makes popcorn*

Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2022 12:28 PM (ZGrMX)

217 Posted by: Boffo the Clown at August 10, 2022 12:25 PM (jMHBP)

I snorted out loud.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 10, 2022 12:28 PM (yQpMk)

218 A shirttail relative of ours was the target if an FBI raid on his house. They stripped it down and hauled off everything they could carry. He was a great coin, stamp and jewelry collector and had display cases all over his house with all the things he collected. It was like a museum in there. The feds took it all. No inventory was taken. The papers, files etc. we're later returned by court order after his case was thrown out of court because of lack of chain of custody. He never got so much as a buffalo nickel back of his collection even though he had security footage of agents hauling it all off, cases and all.
This was before people generally had security cameras so they hadn't thought about that. Nevertheless, the stuff wasn't on the official inventory that was written down later. He maintained until his dying day that they robbed him blind. He was kind of a crank so I never quite believed him UNTIL our police chief who is a good friend of hubby told us that he was there that day and saw it all happen just like it was told to us. He also said that there were, unto this day, several federal warrants out for this guy whose been dead for five years.
Cancer beats feds.

Posted by: Just Lily at August 10, 2022 12:28 PM (RLLZj)

219 157 I read on Twitter, and sent the link to ace, that the magistrate who signed off on the search warrant had slammed Trump on Facebook.

He donated to Jeb, which may be even more pathetic than Jeb's actual campaign.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2022 12:17 PM (ZGrMX)

I saw that too. Said Trump was basically a low life who isn't fit to tie some civil right's guys shoes. And reposted some other anti Trump stuff. It's just amazing they were able to find him in town and with a pen in his hand.

Posted by: LASue at August 10, 2022 12:23 PM (Ed8Zd)

That's no pen in his hand...

Posted by: Joey at August 10, 2022 12:28 PM (ynpvh)

220 And now Boffo my knob the front hole clown.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 10, 2022 12:28 PM (89T5c)

221 We gotta get better quality trolls
Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 12:27 PM (bs+z0)



Joe Xiden will be here shortly. It's fine.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 12:28 PM (Zz0t1)

222 Never forget. This was all because a library wanted their books back.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 12:28 PM (mZ3xv)

223 1. This "magistrate" hack cocksucker certainly is accountable to a Higher federal bench, yes? The local Circuit Court? Then why aren't they looking into this malfeasance?
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at August 10, 2022 12:25 PM (gwQC+)

Ultimate body which can punish him? The Supreme Court... a power they have not used, so is moot.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 12:28 PM (oHd/0)

224 Imagine still believing you're going to vote your way out of this.
___

Some of us do not.

At. All.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 10, 2022 12:29 PM (SVDV2)

225 We gotta get better quality trolls
Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 12:27 PM (bs+z0)
++++
We'll have to wait a couple of years. Sadly, budgets are a lot lower when there isn't a presidential election coming up.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:29 PM (WWh8n)

226 Rudy Ghouliani working out legal strategies in between martinis & farting on traffic lawyer Jen Ellis...

Posted by: Boffo the Clown at August 10, 2022 12:29 PM (jMHBP)

227 I'm really tired of the alleged "Smart Set" on Twitter. Every single day you see them popping off their perfectly-ignorant, uninformed opinions.


Damned right!!!
That's our bailiwick!
Posted by: Diogenes


I learned a hard and embarrassing way back in '96 to put up or shut up. What you heard from a friend's dad's third cousin doesn't cut it. Documentation or blow me.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2022 12:29 PM (fP8pU)

228 Welp, if this sealed-no copy-to-Trump search warrant story is true, a suspicious person might conclude the warrant will be re-written (or written for the first time) and back-dated, to include a description of materials obtained in the fishing expedition raid, to make everything appear all legal- and Constitutiuonal-like.

Magistrate Epstein-enabler will be happy to cooperate in the charade.
Posted by: Gref at August 10, 2022 12:27 PM (AMIL/)

The warrant "requirement" (haha) is that it must state with particularity what is seized. So of course it will be rewritten to conform with whatever was found or created.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 10, 2022 12:29 PM (nMx88)

229 Caught between Tish and the FBI. Naughty Mr. Trump must really be feeling the heat right about now. Delicious !

Posted by: Sid at August 10, 2022 12:29 PM (1oTQa)

230 From a few articles and the way even said last night these raids are fishing expedition, they start but widen what they take as they see it. Doubt it's We are coming for a safe and nothing else.

Posted by: Skip's phone at August 10, 2022 12:29 PM (ISPXD)

231 If that is true then this was an illegal search. There has to be copies of that warrant someplace other than with the fib. The court has to file it, while they can keep it sealed there is still a warrant someplace. Trump can demand that they produce it or file a civil suit against the Court that issued the warrant.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 10, 2022 12:20 PM (bVYXr)

Some court oversees the Magistrate Court.

Why is not someone in front of THAT COURT on an emergency basis, asking for review of what the Magistrate did?

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 12:22 PM


Pretty sure his bosses had no clue what this guy did, but I bet they are reviewing everything he did right now. Magistrates usually only mess with minor criminal stuff and civil suit matters, while they can issue search warrants, they generally don't at least the ones I have interacted with have not.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 10, 2022 12:29 PM (bVYXr)

232 Posted by: Sid at August 10, 2022 12:29 PM (1oTQa)


You DICK!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at August 10, 2022 12:29 PM (Zz0t1)

233 Taking the 5th, Wise move.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 10, 2022 12:29 PM (S+j2h)

234 Becoming increasingly clear that there's no point in having a political discussion at all when the chances are your interlocutor isn't actually engaging with you on the plane of ideas because they're at heart a postmodern constructionist who doesn't actually think things like "the truth" are objective realities and that the discussion is just a language game for one party to assert their will to power over the other.

You're Socrates and they're the sophists and after the discussion you've got a nice bowl of hemlock to drink.

Posted by: Joe, living dangerously at August 10, 2022 12:29 PM (Xy+Sl)

235 NeverTrump = Worse Than democrat

I stand with TRUMP.

As abundantly proven by uniparty: Cleanest federal politician since Geo Washington, bar none.

Posted by: Democrats: Raping The Children We Cannot Kill Since 1973! at August 10, 2022 12:30 PM (jV+aN)

236 Of all the possible excuses I've digested for this raid, the most plausible is that Trump documented the biggest mysteries of all time regarding our squeaky clean government.
The Kennedy assassinations.
The MLK assassination.
UFOs.
CIA and FBI dirty tricks.
You know, the stuff long declassified but, in fact, not.
This was posited by Robert Barnes.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, with capers at August 10, 2022 12:30 PM (jTmQV)

237 Here's the person who signed off on the raid of Melania's closet:

https://tinyurl.com/nht687bn

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 12:30 PM (ptqGC)

238 177 Andrew Weissmann on Twitter:

Posted by: Lola at August 10, 2022 12:23 PM (NIYa7)

Termites remain a threat until you kill them.

Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 12:24 PM (VX5aH)

Sounds like a call to violence. He should be in the J6 gulag.

Posted by: Joey at August 10, 2022 12:30 PM (ynpvh)

239 LOL.

Trump MUST BE FEELING THE HEAT NOW!!!!!!

They've been investigating him for over 6 years and have found EXACTLY dick.

But THIS time.......THIS time they'll GET HIM!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 12:30 PM (Zz0t1)

240 Trump has crappy attorneys.

Posted by: runner at August 10, 2022 12:30 PM (2igD3)

241 230 Levin this stupid phone

Posted by: Skip's phone at August 10, 2022 12:30 PM (ISPXD)

242 FWIW,
Mapp v. Ohio dealt with a mob connected numbers running landlady who ran a flophouse. One of her mob tenants bombed boxing promoter Don King's residence or bizness (I forget) and the local cops went to Dollree Mapp's flophouse--flashed a sheet of paper at her, refused to give her a copy, and commenced to go through the house looking for the bomber. The bomber escaped out back and in the basement, officers found a box of smutty mags left by a tenant moving out. The officers proudly seized the smutty mags and brought Dollree up on charges of obscenity--she was convicted and eventually the case went before the Ohio Sup. Ct. which allowed the search.

Scotus reversed and the lack of a warrant given to Dollree was a key to the decision which is broader than simply allowing federal courts to review state courts' 4th Amendment decisions.

Posted by: whig at August 10, 2022 12:30 PM (CXr4y)

243 Helena: what's a moby?

Posted by: Iris at August 10, 2022 12:30 PM (foa6+)

244 And lastly, it'd be welcomed if Trump himself lent a bit of clarity and spin on this to get ahead of the narrative that will emerge.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 10, 2022 12:25 PM (BFigT)

How can he get ahead of a narrative when he doesn't know what they're going to say? Much better to let them play their card first.

All he can say is that this is unconscionable and that Hillary got away with wiping subpoenaed phones and emails with zero consequence.

That's easily digestible info for the average nitwit. And its what he said.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 12:30 PM (/6Rxy)

245 This busty blonde in a car never wants to be reminded of the "human centipede:"
https://is.gd/dvrFNj

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:30 PM (WWh8n)

246 WE HAVE RUBBER STAMPS

Posted by: The corrupt as F'ck FIB at August 10, 2022 12:31 PM (S+j2h)

247
Ultimate body which can punish him? The Supreme Court... a power they have not used, so is moot.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 12:28 PM (oHd/0)

Correct. Remember, W hack Roberts did nothing about the FISA court, which he oversees, when it surfaced they did not even FUCKING read the affidavits for the illegal warrants issued.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 10, 2022 12:31 PM (nMx88)

248 So, whig, there *are* such things as warrants that are not disclosed to the targets? Based on "classified" info content?

Posted by: rhomboid at August 10, 2022 12:31 PM (OTzUX)

249 >>>The perfect confidence that only the shallowest of ignorant imbeciles can possess. The people who are so stupid and so incapable of critical thought that the most basic, fundamental self-check -- wait, how do I know I "know" this??! -- never occurs to them, ever.

Poetry

Posted by: flounder at August 10, 2022 12:31 PM (U3uv2)

250 Rudy Ghouliani working out legal strategies in between martinis & farting on traffic lawyer Jen Ellis...
Posted by: Boffo the Clown at August 10, 2022 12:29 PM (jMHBP)



So, you're saying he's actually Joe Biden?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 12:31 PM (Zz0t1)

251 178 The media is the problem. They need to be confronted, challenged and humiliated at every turn. Interviews with the media have to stop being seen by our side as traditional forms of public discourse and as opportunities to destroy them, by whatever rhetorical means necessary.


This. If we had a remotely competent media, that actually looked for fact instead of acting like Discount Pravda, half of DC would be in jail and Trump would still be in office.

Posted by: Mookie at August 10, 2022 12:31 PM (7Mqc1)

252 >>> 236 Of all the possible excuses I've digested for this raid, the most plausible is that Trump documented the biggest mysteries of all time regarding our squeaky clean government.
The Kennedy assassinations.
The MLK assassination.
UFOs.
CIA and FBI dirty tricks.
You know, the stuff long declassified but, in fact, not.
This was posited by Robert Barnes.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, with capers at August 10, 2022 12:30 PM (jTmQV)

OrangeManBad has been working with Stanley Goodspeed?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 10, 2022 12:31 PM (llON8)

253 Why is it our side is always having to prove a negative?

I'm not a racist
I'm not a bigot
I don't have the warrant
I didn't say that
I didn't do that

Why do we always have to prove innocence ?


Because, for the most part, too many of us would rather be thought of as 'nice' rather than flat-out say "I don't accept your fucking definition and I sure as hell am not going to accommodate my views to your insanity."
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 10, 2022 12:18 PM (C2QwQ)

Posted by: Hitler, Goering, Himmler and Goebbels at August 10, 2022 12:31 PM (AW0uW)

254 ~~~~dream sequence~~~~~~

FIB: we have a warrant to search the premises
Trump Lawyer: Ok, we'll comply. Let me see the warrant and we'll assist.
FIB: No
TL: No? Well, you can't search the premises without a warrant.
FIB: A federal judge signed the warrant, you can't see it, and my 30, heavily armed agents along with me says we can search the premises.
TL: Ok, since you are threatening me and our staff, we won't get in your way.
TL steps away and calls local police
TL: we have an emergency, there are heavily armed people here at MAL who claim to be FIB, but I can't verify their identity. For all I know, they could be Russian agents. Please send help immediately.
Local LEO: right away sir!
Local LEO calls State Police

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 10, 2022 12:31 PM (fs1hN)

255 190 I postulate that the FBI did not have "all their ducks in a row" and launched the raid prematurely. I also have a hard time believing the claims being made that the FBI left with 15 boxes of what some are saying are documents. If nothing else, you'd think in this day and age anything worth keeping safe would be on an encrypted thumb drive or SSD in an innocuous location.

But... yea, the Feds are sorting through the stuff they took looking for anything they can pin on Trump.

And lastly, it'd be welcomed if Trump himself lent a bit of clarity and spin on this to get ahead of the narrative that will emerge. I know what his kid said, and that he was allegedly there, but he wasn't the target of the raid either.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 10, 2022 12:25 PM (BFigT)

I like how someone put it:
A warrant for papers the National Archives wants is like a warrant to the police to search your home for library books you forgot to return...

Posted by: Joey at August 10, 2022 12:31 PM (ynpvh)

256 A judicial functionary aka a magistrate signs a secret search warrant having to do with the retrieval of documents which may be or not highly sensitive, and so top secret, as to be sealed. This same magistrate recused himself from the Trump v Clinton case just two months ago. It’s corrupt on its face to the point of absurdity.

Posted by: 7man at August 10, 2022 12:32 PM (qwO6y)

257 cont.
5 mins later -
Local and State LEO: come out with your hands up, up where we can see them
FIB: do you know who I am? you'll regret this
L&S LEO: hands up, NOW
FIB: my wife is pregnant, don't tase me bro!
hilarity ensues

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 10, 2022 12:32 PM (fs1hN)

258 Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at August 10, 2022 12:28 PM (3cGpq)

Especially when it is sealed by the LOWEST type of Judge there is?

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 12:32 PM (oHd/0)

259 this is the same farking boring routine, over and over and over again.

Same playbook, different circumstances. Just like with Russia PeePee Hoax, 25th Amendment op, etc. etc. etc.

Something happens. Narrative is coordinated. Nobody cares except some tw@tter junkies and Beltway elites. Narrative falls apart.

Trump wins.

Lather. Rinse. Repeat

Posted by: kallisto at August 10, 2022 12:32 PM (dCxaZ)

260 The warrant "requirement" (haha) is that it must state with particularity what is seized. So of course it will be rewritten to conform with whatever was found or created.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat

**

Ah, good catch.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 12:32 PM (ILqOb)

261 Posted by: Sid at August 10, 2022 12:29 PM (1oTQa)

Trump has guys just like your "mom" in his stool

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 12:32 PM (/6Rxy)

262 Meanwhile while we are distracted Joe is robbing us blind with his stupid green debacle bill and more billions to Ukraine

Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 12:32 PM (bs+z0)

263 About this time yesterday, I was taking the position that Trump *might* have taken classified documents from the White House after "ceasing" to be President; and if so, the feds might have a credible case to make against him. (I believe I ticked a few people off in saying so.)

But if the KGB didn't even let Trump or his lawyer see the warrant....yeah, I'm officially calling bullsh*t on all of this.

Posted by: Dr. T at August 10, 2022 12:32 PM (bhRsz)

264 It's a Human Centipede of Smugly-Assured Ignorance, one unwarrantedly-confident imbecile shitting into the next unaccountably-selfsure know-nothing's wide-open mouth.

**

Pure poetry.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at August 10, 2022 12:32 PM (R5lpX)

265 I'm not sure why Trump didn't tell the FBI to fuck off. Refuse to let them on the property. What are they gonna do? Parachute into the property? In the meantime, he makes an emergency application for a TRO restraining the search until the legality of the warrant can be litigated. You know that's how someone like Hillary would have done it, had she been raided. We still don't know how to play this game.

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2022 12:32 PM (iFTx/)

266 191
Posted by: Boffo the Clown at August 10, 2022 12:25 PM (jMHBP)

Sorry, that was unintelligible. Maybe you should take your dick out or your mouth before speaking.

Posted by: Joey at August 10, 2022 12:32 PM (ynpvh)

267 I've never heard of a warrant that wasn't given to the target to explain exactly what was being taken.

If they didn't give Trump that warrant, anything they took is inadmissible.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 12:33 PM (mZ3xv)

268 I like how someone put it:
A warrant for papers the National Archives wants is like a warrant to the police to search your home for library books you forgot to return...
Posted by: Joey at August 10, 2022 12:31 PM (ynpvh)

So they come in, and take your books, and your computers, and your phones, and go through your wifes Underwear looking for... her library card?

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 12:33 PM (oHd/0)

269 I saw Human Centipede of Smugly-Assured Ignorance open for Deep Blue Something at Gas Monkey Live in '98.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 10, 2022 12:33 PM (hASXU)

270 So, you're saying he's actually Joe Biden?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 12:31 PM (Zz0t1)


I came thisclose to spewing ginger ale all over the monitor!

*shakes fist*

Posted by: kallisto at August 10, 2022 12:33 PM (dCxaZ)

271 198 153 I have some undies the FBI can go thru...
Posted by: Jerry Nadler, Sload King at August 10, 2022 12:21 PM (2CExO)
++++
Five men to a pair!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:22 PM (WWh8n)
Underpants FBI?
1. Get illegal warrant
2. Search Underwear
3. Conviction!
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 12:26 PM (oHd/0)

If the underwear fits,
you must convicts...

Posted by: Joey at August 10, 2022 12:33 PM (ynpvh)

272 They should explain why they wanted cameras off. And....trump has a rat. Maybe more than one. Could be just staff servicing the property. Immediate lie detector test for all of them .

Posted by: runner at August 10, 2022 12:34 PM (2igD3)

273 Posted by: Boffo the Clown at August 10, 2022 12:29 PM (jMHBP)

Dance, monkey, dance!

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 10, 2022 12:34 PM (yQpMk)

274 267 I've never heard of a warrant that wasn't given to the target to explain exactly what was being taken.


Well... It was a double secret warrant

Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 12:34 PM (bs+z0)

275 Trump wasn't even there, he was in NYC at the time, dealing with yet another litigious a**hole.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, with capers at August 10, 2022 12:34 PM (jTmQV)

276 I've never heard of a warrant that wasn't given to the target to explain exactly what was being taken.

If they didn't give Trump that warrant, anything they took is inadmissible.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 12:33 PM (mZ3xv)



The original warrant was mostly blank. They'll fill the rest in later.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 12:34 PM (Zz0t1)

277 275 Trump wasn't even there, he was in NYC at the time, dealing with yet another litigious a**hole.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, with capers at August 10, 2022 12:34 PM (jTmQV)


That doesn't release them from delivering the warrant

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 12:35 PM (mZ3xv)

278 I posted this earlier on the Morning Report, but this is what I am worried... the planting of evidence in order to indict Trump.

Daily Mail-
Trump suggests FBI could have PLANTED evidence during 10-hour long 'power flex' raid at Mar-a-Largo because his team were blocked from watching - and DOJ 'wanted security cameras turned OFF': Melania wardrobe was 'ransacked'

https://tinyurl.com/24pn3buk

Posted by: redridinghood at August 10, 2022 12:35 PM (NpAcC)

279 The original warrant was mostly blank. They'll fill the rest in later.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 12:34 PM (Zz0t1)
++++
It came out of the "Search By Numbers" bonus page at the back of the Mad Libs book.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:35 PM (WWh8n)

280
I came thisclose to spewing ginger ale all over the monitor!

*shakes fist*
Posted by: kallisto at August 10, 2022 12:33 PM (dCxaZ)



Fail.

I'll try harder next time.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 12:35 PM (Zz0t1)

281 And lastly, it'd be welcomed if Trump himself lent a bit of clarity and spin on this to get ahead of the narrative that will emerge.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 10, 2022 12:25 PM (BFigT)

How can he get ahead of a narrative when he doesn't know what they're going to say? Much better to let them play their card first.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 12:30 PM (/6Rxy)
---
Sometimes the correct move is to let your opponent go first. We already know the Feebs are experts in failure, so let them continue to make themselves look like idiots. Also, Trump has to gather his own set of facts together to counteract the FBI/Media narrative when it is fully formed.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 10, 2022 12:35 PM (YIVH2)

282 I wonder if there is someone at the fbi that just realized they will ultimately be the one left holding the bag when this shit show blows up.

Because everyone above them claims they didn't authorize the raid.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2022 12:35 PM (fP8pU)

283 Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2022 12:32 PM (iFTx/)

Trump was not even there. They waved magic papers at staff.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 12:35 PM (oHd/0)

284 Secret Service should have told the FBI to piss off until they handed over a true copy of the warrant.

Well the "Secret Service" gave them the Wink and a nod...don't cha know. Probably with the Finger Gun too boot.

Posted by: Paladin at August 10, 2022 12:35 PM (KX5Wh)

285 A magistrate works under a district court, I believe. Have no idea how much "supervision", control, etc. is involved, but they're subordinate to the district that hired them. They're not presidentially nominated/Senate confirmed judges.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 10, 2022 12:35 PM (OTzUX)

286 "My understanding" in legal terms means It would be better for my client if X is true, and at the moment I have no positive proof that X isn't true, so I am going to say X.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at August 10, 2022 12:35 PM (vN+oL)

287 I am curious about the warrant, because what I've heard it was for and what they've been reported doing seem... at odds.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 12:36 PM (Ivdso)

288 218 I would believe him now hook, line and sinker

Posted by: Skip's phone at August 10, 2022 12:36 PM (ISPXD)

289 in the pre-indictment phase, there exists a question as to whether there is a right to review - if the govt says it will impact witness safety or the investigation they can get it sealed. After indictment you can motion to unseal in some districts - there are splits in when and to what extent you can find out. Trump does not have the search warrant. Twitter is the asshole of the world.

Posted by: it is the work
---------------------------
Sealed warrants are almost never used in home searches and attorneys have to be able to challenge any warrant for probable cause and violations of the particularity. Redaction is the proper remedy; not sealing the warrant as a whole.

Posted by: whig at August 10, 2022 12:36 PM (CXr4y)

290 Hey Hildebeast has a new bling sale going on and poses for the marketing ad. She has had extensive work done. Her mug looks like a baboons ass that received hyena cum injections. Besides that she is looking like the new improved version of My AZZ...

Posted by: Commentor What Got a Shirt at August 10, 2022 12:36 PM (5s/s5)

291 265 I'm not sure why Trump didn't tell the FBI to fuck off. Refuse to let them on the property.

I think he was in NJ when they invaded his property. Probably by design on the KGB's side.


Posted by: Mookie at August 10, 2022 12:36 PM (7Mqc1)

292 The Twitter crowd has moved on to "Trump pled the Fifth, GIVE HIM THE CHAIR!!@!". Which confirms that their role model is Beavis.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2022 12:36 PM (ZGrMX)

293 282 I wonder if there is someone at the fbi that just realized they will ultimately be the one left holding the bag when this shit show blows up.

Because everyone above them claims they didn't authorize the raid.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2022 12:35 PM (fP8pU)

==========

"I'm going to have to retire early with full benefits? Oh, no, don't let it be me."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 12:36 PM (LvTSG)

294 We are wasting our time and energy looking for legal compliance here, there isn't any.
There is no clean end of this particular turd.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, with capers at August 10, 2022 12:36 PM (jTmQV)

295 275 Trump wasn't even there, he was in NYC at the time, dealing with yet another litigious a**hole.
Posted by: gourmand du jour, with capers at August 10, 2022 12:34 PM (jTmQV)

Which is why they chose this time... That and the stupid flushing papers down the toilet story and the sitting Congressman getting his phone taken while at the airport with his Family by the FBI... Expect more of this

Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 12:36 PM (bs+z0)

296 The warrant states 'overdue books from the library' and extensive late fees'

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 12:36 PM (mZ3xv)

297 Iris, a "moby" is someone who pretends to be a member of a group and posts inflammatory comments and / or incitement in order to discredit members of said group.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 10, 2022 12:36 PM (llON8)

298 I hope it's true that no copy of a warrant was given to Trump but if it were me, no copy of warrant , no searchy.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 10, 2022 12:37 PM (nY6ib)

299 Hey Hildebeast has a new bling sale going on and poses for the marketing ad. She has had extensive work done. Her mug looks like a baboons ass that received hyena cum injections. Besides that she is looking like the new improved version of My AZZ...

She is 100% running in 2024.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2022 12:37 PM (ZGrMX)

300 245 This busty blonde in a car never wants to be reminded of the "human centipede:"
https://is.gd/dvrFNj

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:30 PM (WWh8n)

When the car starts moving is when the close study of the physics at play takes place.

Posted by: Joey at August 10, 2022 12:37 PM (ynpvh)

301 Can the FBI sort socks? Cuz I could use some high class guys to sort my socks. Sorting socks is tedious.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 10, 2022 12:37 PM (D8mow)

302 I'm not sure why Trump didn't tell the FBI to fuck off. Refuse to let them on the property. What are they gonna do? Parachute into the property? In the meantime, he makes an emergency application for a TRO restraining the search until the legality of the warrant can be litigated. You know that's how someone like Hillary would have done it, had she been raided. We still don't know how to play this game.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2022 12:32 PM (iFTx/)


Same here. I don't get it. No warrant for me to see? F*ck off.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 10, 2022 12:37 PM (DRSnL)

303 I don't see how a "sealed warrant" can be even remotely constitutional.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 10, 2022 12:37 PM (QSjkU)

304 Trump was in NJ grieving by his first wife next to the sand bunker and thinking of where to plant Melanie, maybe by the water hazard?

Posted by: Boffo the Clown at August 10, 2022 12:37 PM (jMHBP)

305 >>It's a Human Centipede of Smugly-Assured Ignorance, one unwarrantedly-confident imbecile shitting into the next unaccountably-selfsure know-nothing's wide-open mouth.



This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: bho at August 10, 2022 12:37 PM (rJ48h)

306 Don't know about y'all, but I've pretty much had enough "fundamental transformation".

Posted by: BignJames at August 10, 2022 12:37 PM (AwYPR)

307 297 Iris, a "moby" is someone who pretends to be a member of a group and posts inflammatory comments and / or incitement in order to discredit members of said group.


literally Moby himself would do this, hence the nomenclature

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2022 12:38 PM (w0NJk)

308 and more billions to Ukraine
Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 12:32 PM (bs

What's wrong with that?

Posted by: Gope Leadership at August 10, 2022 12:38 PM (9FBGz)

309 198 153 I have some undies the FBI can go thru...
Posted by: Jerry Nadler, Sload King at August 10, 2022 12:21 PM (2CExO)


Maybe millions of patriots should start mailing their underwear to the FBI?

Posted by: Mookie at August 10, 2022 12:38 PM (7Mqc1)

310 Posted by: Boffo the Clown at August 10, 2022 12:37 PM (jMHBP)


You DICK!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at August 10, 2022 12:38 PM (Zz0t1)

311 If they didn't give Trump that warrant, anything they took is inadmissible.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 12:33 PM (mZ3xv)
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The FBI (and the Media) will report that everything that was planted by the FBI *is* admissible--at least in the court of public opinion, which is the only court they really care about right now. Tarnish Trump in any way, shape, or form so that he's deemed "too toxic" to run again by the GOPe.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 10, 2022 12:38 PM (YIVH2)

312 I'm not sure why Trump didn't tell the FBI to fuck off. Refuse to let them on the property. What are they gonna do? Parachute into the property? In the meantime, he makes an emergency application for a TRO restraining the search until the legality of the warrant can be litigated. You know that's how someone like Hillary would have done it, had she been raided. We still don't know how to play this game.

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2022 12:32 PM


Because Trump was not there, he is in NYC for that stupid civil suit against him and that's why the fib chose this time to conduct the panty raid, they knew he was not at home. We are not even sure if he knew ahead of time this was going to happen, I have read differing stories on that.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 10, 2022 12:38 PM (bVYXr)

313 I'm not sure why Trump didn't tell the FBI to fuck off. Refuse to let them on the property.

Its illegal to deny law enforcement on your property if they have a warrant that permits them entry. They'd just crash into the place and arrest everyone.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 12:38 PM (Ivdso)

314 Iris, a "moby" is someone who pretends to be a member of a group and posts inflammatory comments and / or incitement in order to discredit members of said group.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 10, 2022 12:36 PM (llON


See also "glowie."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 12:38 PM (ptqGC)

315 I'm not sure why Trump didn't tell the FBI to fuck off. Refuse to let them on the property.

He wasn't there. He was in NY/NJ prepping for whatever bullshit the SDNY is doing today.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2022 12:38 PM (ZGrMX)

316 Dammit, off Nazi sock.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 12:39 PM (AW0uW)

317 Backhole the Clown

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 10, 2022 12:39 PM (89T5c)

318 301 Can the FBI sort socks? Cuz I could use some high class guys to sort my socks. Sorting socks is tedious.
Posted by: Puddinhead at August 10, 2022 12:37 PM (D8mow)

That would be your fault. All my socks are the same. Sorting? Who does any sorting?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 10, 2022 12:39 PM (QSjkU)

319 If they can just show up and claim they have a warrant, for reals, no you can't see it, isn't that a pretty blatant Fourth Amendment violation?

I don't know why I'm asking. We all know laws don't matter anymore.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at August 10, 2022 12:39 PM (8548M)

320 She is 100% running in 2024.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2022 12:37 PM (ZGrMX)

Ya I see that as well....

Posted by: Commentor What Got a Shirt at August 10, 2022 12:39 PM (5s/s5)

321 He wasn't there. He was in NY/NJ prepping for whatever bullshit the SDNY is doing today.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2022 12:38 PM (ZGrMX)

Now the "media" is all atwitter about Trump taking the 5th....

Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 12:39 PM (bs+z0)

322 Iris, a "moby" is someone who pretends to be a member of a group and posts inflammatory comments and / or incitement in order to discredit members of said group.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 10, 2022 12:36 PM (llON



See: The FBI and pAntifa on Jan 6th.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 12:39 PM (Zz0t1)

323 > I'm not sure why Trump didn't tell the FBI to fuck off. Refuse to let them on the property.


he was elsewhere-
but They would have arrested him
imo

Posted by: DB at August 10, 2022 12:39 PM (geLO8)

324 I don't see how a "sealed warrant" can be even remotely constitutional.

As long as its properly obtained and available for the target and/or their legal representatives to examine, its legal.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 12:39 PM (Ivdso)

325 I think the big legal hurdle for Garland is to somehow get a crime committed in florida prosecuted in NW DC.

I know, there's no crime but DC juries would convict a ham sandwich. Florida? not so much.

Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 10, 2022 12:39 PM (OuH7W)

326 Every cuck blue check is now a Warrant expert.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 12:39 PM (3vQN0)

327 Wash em first. You don't want them to have your DNA.

Posted by: Just Lily at August 10, 2022 12:39 PM (RLLZj)

328 This busty blonde in a car never wants to be reminded of the "human centipede:"
https://is.gd/dvrFNj

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:30 PM (WWh8n)

When the car starts moving is when the close study of the physics at play takes place.
Posted by: Joey at August 10, 2022 12:37 PM (ynpvh)

Pre-deployed air bags.

Posted by: BignJames at August 10, 2022 12:39 PM (AwYPR)

329 Sounds like a call to violence. He should be in the J6 gulag.
Posted by: Joey at August 10, 2022 12:30 PM (ynpvh)

I'm not going back to the Orkin gulag!

Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 12:40 PM (9hBHf)

330 Trump did something shady? Oh no, don't tell all those distinguidged alumni of "Trump University"!!

Posted by: Boffo the Clown at August 10, 2022 12:40 PM (jMHBP)

331 That would be your fault. All my socks are the same. Sorting? Who does any sorting?
Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 10, 2022 12:39 PM (QSjkU)
++++
I have three kinds. White socks, black athletic socks, dress socks. The non-dress socks are easy. The dress socks require sorting and I hate having to wear them for that reason.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:40 PM (WWh8n)

332 >>> 309 198 153 I have some undies the FBI can go thru...
Posted by: Jerry Nadler, Sload King at August 10, 2022 12:21 PM (2CExO)


Maybe millions of patriots should start mailing their underwear to the FBI?
Posted by: Mookie at August 10, 2022 12:38 PM (7Mqc1)

No.

Send it from your commie neighbor's dresser.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 10, 2022 12:40 PM (llON8)

333 63 I've never been served a warrant, but I thought it was *required* that you have an opportunity to read it before you allow LEOs into your house/property. So they can literally just show up with a blank piece of paper in a sealed envelope in hand, and claim to have a warrant?
Posted by: Simon Jester at August 10, 2022 12:12 PM (BSu3l)


A state agency searched a friend's home recently. When she asked to see the warrant, she was told, "I have it here on my cell phone. It's still a draft, because we are getting it ready for the judge's signature. We'll send you a copy when it is finalized."

But when they are there with three armed cops on your doorstep, you don't really have much choice in the matter.

Posted by: Half Dozen at August 10, 2022 12:40 PM (dJs6r)

334 President Trump's Attorney Alina Habba

Hiya Habba !

Habba Espanol ?

Posted by: JT at August 10, 2022 12:40 PM (T4tVD)

335 Trump suggests FBI could have PLANTED evidence

-
He insulted the ham n eggers!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at August 10, 2022 12:40 PM (FVME7)

336 I snorted sharted out loud.
-----------------------
Fixed.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 10, 2022 12:40 PM (yikp0)

337 Didn't the FBI also order Trump's security to turn off all the cameras? What were they trying to hide?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 12:40 PM (ptqGC)

338 As story by Just Lily I wouldn't doubt a bit of souvenir hunting went on, a few of Melania's clothes maybe?

Posted by: Skip's phone at August 10, 2022 12:40 PM (ISPXD)

339 Because everyone above them claims they didn't authorize the raid.
Posted by: rickb223


I've heard this as well. Even a spox at the National Archives said that Trump was working with them and there were no issues.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 10, 2022 12:40 PM (wUHYj)

340 A state agency searched a friend's home recently. When she asked to see the warrant, she was told, "I have it here on my cell phone. It's still a draft, because we are getting it ready for the judge's signature. We'll send you a copy when it is finalized."

But when they are there with three armed cops on your doorstep, you don't really have much choice in the matter.
Posted by: Half Dozen at August 10, 2022 12:40 PM (dJs6r)
++++
"Y'all come one back once you have it on paper with a signature. G'bye. I'm closing the door now."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:41 PM (WWh8n)

341 Posted by: Boffo the Clown at August 10, 2022 12:40 PM (jMHBP)


Now do DOCTOR Jill Biden and Bernie Sanders' wife.


Seriously. You're embarrassing your entire bloodline. Find new work.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 12:41 PM (Zz0t1)

342 265 I'm not sure why Trump didn't tell the FBI to fuck off. Refuse to let them on the property. What are they gonna do? Parachute into the property? In the meantime, he makes an emergency application for a TRO restraining the search until the legality of the warrant can be litigated. You know that's how someone like Hillary would have done it, had she been raided. We still don't know how to play this game. Posted by: Elric Blade
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The Feebs are the ones that screwed up. First, any warrant proceedings will be outside of the rotten DC circuit and courts. Second, a wholesale search of a vast property indicates a probable violation of the particularity requirement and the general fishing expedition indicates possible constitutional violations--see Chimel v. California and its progeny. This was a political black bag job, not a valid law enforcement warrant. Prezzies used to use the Feebs for doing this sort of work but the Feebs had the honor not to involve warrants or the court system in it. They did it on the downlow.

Posted by: whig at August 10, 2022 12:41 PM (CXr4y)

343 Which is why they chose this time... That and the stupid flushing papers down the toilet story and the sitting Congressman getting his phone taken while at the airport with his Family by the FBI... Expect more of this


yes while the cat's away the rats decided to play.

also I agree with Legal Insurrection - this was a provocation, firstly, hoping to get a reaction that could be twisted into "insurrection" from someone on the Right. hopefully that failed.

second, LI thinks this was to provoke PDJT into announcing his candidacy now. he really really REALLY needs to not do this, no matter how much they tweak him. they think that his candidacy will enliven their base and the mushy middle for the midterms, and they're right about that.

hopefully President Trump has smart advisors keeping him chill. so far it seems so. he released sharp, aggressive statements but nothing too "out there." so far he's being smart.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2022 12:41 PM (w0NJk)

344 not sure why Trump didn't tell the FBI to fuck off. Refuse to let them on the property.



Well he was 1000 miles away for starters…

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 12:41 PM (3vQN0)

345 or people associated with Trump or opposed to The Regime, I mean
Posted by: ace at

you know, there are DOJ ethic guidelines. I bet Garland is rewriting or ignoring them here.

Like I said, this took place in florida, the crime prob in lforida, but also the violation of civil rights took place in florida. I would hope there'd be a 1981 lawsuit filed there. hold garland and fbi pig devils personally liable.

Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 10, 2022 12:41 PM (OuH7W)

346 >>> 324 I don't see how a "sealed warrant" can be even remotely constitutional.

As long as its properly obtained and available for the target and/or their legal representatives to examine, its legal.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 12:39 PM (Ivdso)

I see a couple of problems then... well *if* we weren't post-law...

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 10, 2022 12:41 PM (llON8)

347 Weak clown is weak, but amusing.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 10, 2022 12:41 PM (yQpMk)

348 She is 100% running in 2024.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2022 12:37 PM (ZGrMX)

Ya I see that as well....
Posted by: Commentor What Got a Shirt at August 10, 2022 12:39 PM (5s/s5)

No Abuela con chili, por favor

Posted by: The corrupt as F'ck FIB at August 10, 2022 12:41 PM (S+j2h)

349 337 Didn't the FBI also order Trump's security to turn off all the cameras? What were they trying to hide?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 12:40 PM (ptqGC)

Then sniffing Melania's panties, apparently.


I do hope Trump releases the video.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 12:41 PM (mZ3xv)

350 Hey, they don’t just read Twitter! They watch John Oliver too!

Posted by: Deceased Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at August 10, 2022 12:41 PM (31l4A)

351 so what was the FBI doing the whole time they were in Trump's house with no one allowed to watch?

it's a puzzlement

Posted by: DB at August 10, 2022 12:41 PM (geLO8)

352 So, whig, there *are* such things as warrants that are not disclosed to the targets? Based on "classified" info content?
==
Yes. Posted above. There Fed R Crim 41 e to unseal it and Crime 6e the govt uses to keep it secret.

There's a process for it. If they have a wire tap, or an informant/co operating witness, or fear destruction of evidence they can seal it. Limitations apply - may be for only a short period of time 30 days or pre indictment.

Doesn't make it right. But it happens enough that there are rules and cases deciding it. Its not a mystery - the so called expert class should KNOW this and probably does. Because this is an fucking OP.

Posted by: it is the work of a moment to educate oneself these days using the computer, this horsehit is an OP at August 10, 2022 12:42 PM (YqmfT)

353 sharted out loud.
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Fixed.
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 10, 2022 12:40 PM (yikp0)

An old KISS song. The Destroyer album, I believe.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at August 10, 2022 12:42 PM (xPJvm)

354 Hey Hildebeast has a new bling sale going on and poses for the marketing ad. She has had extensive work done. Her mug looks like a baboons ass that received hyena cum injections. Besides that she is looking like the new improved version of My AZZ...

She is 100% running in 2024.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2022 12:37 PM (ZGrMX)
******
It's a photoshopped picture of Hillary from her younger days.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 10, 2022 12:42 PM (NpAcC)

355 Spicoli is busy this morning.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 10, 2022 12:42 PM (aaGzp)

356 Eric Trump says the Feebs showed Trump's lawyer the search warrant "from about ten feet away."

https://bit.ly/3vQenN6

Posted by: bonhomme at August 10, 2022 12:42 PM (kDGvA)

357 One of trump's lawyers should have been allowed to be present

Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 12:42 PM (bs+z0)

358 236 Of all the possible excuses I've digested for this raid, the most plausible is that Trump documented the biggest mysteries of all time regarding our squeaky clean government.

I don't think they did it because they thought Trump had something "big" but rather just to f*ck with him and plant something or find some ridiculously minor technical "possession of classified material" which the media would call a "crime."

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 10, 2022 12:42 PM (H8QX8)

359 But when they are there with three armed cops on your doorstep, you don't really have much choice in the matter.

Yeah you do. You tell them to come back when they have the papers.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 12:42 PM (Ivdso)

360 >>> 347 Weak clown is weak, but amusing.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 10, 2022 12:41 PM (yQpMk)

You misspelled "minor attracted".

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 10, 2022 12:42 PM (llON8)

361 Posted by: Boffo the Clown at August 10, 2022 12:40 PM (jMHBP)

If you used both hands to type, rather than employing one in fapping to pics of Nancy Pelosi's taint, your snark would work better.

The word is spelled "distinguished." As in, "Boffo the Clown was distinguished for his illiterate linguistic vomitus, which made people overlook his recent convictions for child porn."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 12:42 PM (AW0uW)

362 I pay over $300K in taxes each year, and I get NOTHING in return. You want to know why they are hiring 87K IRS employees...because they KNOW when we stop paying taxes, their gig is up.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at August 10, 2022 12:42 PM (sI15f)

363 I mean, it seems to me that this is an enormous fuckup.

you can have your pedo groomer judge /er/ magistrate sign whaever he wants, even after he's recused himself from a previous trump case because of cuckoobird bias (ya'all did see that right?)...but you're not in fuckwad DC land anymore but America.

I would hope someone points this out to Trump and there's a huge counter suit.

Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 10, 2022 12:43 PM (OuH7W)

364 298 I hope it's true that no copy of a warrant was given to Trump but if it were me, no copy of warrant , no searchy.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 10, 2022 12:37 PM (nY6ib)

Then he'd be arrested for obstruction, and also resisting arrest.

Posted by: Joey at August 10, 2022 12:43 PM (ynpvh)

365 Ace. What does fighting back look like? Winning local seats on school and election boards is great but that DoJ is pretty powerful. Is there even a political solution possible?

Posted by: Fish at August 10, 2022 12:43 PM (ADw0E)

366 Wall St partying like it’s 1999. Word on The Street is the recession will be shallow and short, and all the worst case scenarios were overblown.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 12:43 PM (3vQN0)

367 But when they are there with three armed cops on your doorstep, you don't really have much choice in the matter.
Posted by: Half Dozen at August 10, 2022 12:40 PM (dJs6r)
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"Y'all come one back once you have it on paper with a signature. G'bye. I'm closing the door now."

Posted by: Joe Mannix
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Joe is right. The police may still force their way in but by refusing to consent to the search--you retain the right to have the search proceedings and seizures thrown out. If you meekly allow them in, the po po will argue that you consented to the search.

Be vocal, make sure you object, call your lawyer, etc. but object and repeatedly state you do not consent to the search. The po po will not protect your rights--you must do so unequivocally.

Posted by: whig at August 10, 2022 12:43 PM (CXr4y)

368 Here's a thought:
What day was the warrent signed?

From that, you can work back to when it was decided to raid.

Add three days to that and explain why the FBI still has no press conference scheduled to explain.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 10, 2022 12:43 PM (Zf0+a)

369 Eric Trump says the Feebs showed Trump's lawyer the search warrant "from about ten feet away."

Likely exaggerating. If any lawyer let them get away with that, they need to be fired immediately.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 12:43 PM (Ivdso)

370 If only there had been a doofus with an F150 and a Trump flag there, this would have gone differently! To the convoy!

Posted by: Boffo the Clown at August 10, 2022 12:43 PM (jMHBP)

371 Couldn't they have refused entry until they did hand it over?
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 10, 2022 12:08 PM (DRSnL)

Nope. Trump's Secret Service team escorted the FBI raiders into the compound.

Posted by: mrp at August 10, 2022 12:43 PM (6eRlp)

372
An old KISS song. The Destroyer album, I believe.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at August 10, 2022 12:42 PM (xPJvm)



Earworm extraordinaire


SHARTED...SHARTED....SHARTED OUT LOUDDDD!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 12:43 PM (Zz0t1)

373 It's a photoshopped picture of Hillary from her younger days.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 10, 2022 12:42 PM

I thought so too; if not, that is some amazing work.

Posted by: LASue at August 10, 2022 12:44 PM (Ed8Zd)

374 I wonder if there is someone at the fbi that just realized they will ultimately be the one left holding the bag when this shit show blows up.
Because everyone above them claims they didn't authorize the raid.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2022 12:35 PM (fP8pU)

Concur. Pass The Buck Chuck strikes again.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 10, 2022 12:44 PM (2CExO)

375 A state agency searched a friend's home recently. When she asked to see the warrant, she was told, "I have it here on my cell phone. It's still a draft, because we are getting it ready for the judge's signature. We'll send you a copy when it is finalized."

But when they are there with three armed cops on your doorstep, you don't really have much choice in the matter.
____________

Without an executed warrant, everything they find will be inadmissible in court? If it's a fishing expedition, then maybe they don't care.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 10, 2022 12:44 PM (fs1hN)

376 366 Wall St partying like it’s 1999. Word on The Street is the recession will be shallow and short, and all the worst case scenarios were overblown.
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 12:43 PM (3vQN0)

========

Just like every war is over by Christmas.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 12:44 PM (LvTSG)

377 351 so what was the FBI doing the whole time they were in Trump's house with no one allowed to watch?

it's a puzzlement
Posted by: DB at Aug

someone on twitter: the problem with boomers who don't have computers is you can't put [content] on their computers...but you can put [real world content] in their safes.

Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 10, 2022 12:44 PM (OuH7W)

378 I'm not sure why Trump didn't tell the FBI to fuck off. Refuse to let them on the property.

Its illegal to deny law enforcement on your property if they have a warrant that permits them entry. They'd just crash into the place and arrest everyone.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Again, the operative word is "IF".

IF they didn't give his lawyer a copy, they didn't have one.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2022 12:44 PM (fP8pU)

379 Eric Trump says the Feebs showed Trump's lawyer the search warrant "from about ten feet away."
_________________________________________

Socialist distancing.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 10, 2022 12:44 PM (lf83v)

380 265 I'm not sure why Trump didn't tell the FBI to fuck off. Refuse to let them on the property. What are they gonna do? Parachute into the property? In the meantime, he makes an emergency application for a TRO restraining the search until the legality of the warrant can be litigated. You know that's how someone like Hillary would have done it, had she been raided. We still don't know how to play this game.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2022 12:32 PM (iFTx/)

Trump wasn't even there, right?

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at August 10, 2022 12:44 PM (53oGX)

381 I don't see how a "sealed warrant" can be even remotely constitutional.

As long as its properly obtained and (EVENTUALLY) available for the target and/or their legal representatives to examine, its legal.

FIFY - you don't get to see it before it is unsealed

Posted by: it is the work of a moment to educate oneself these days using the computer, this horsehit is an OP at August 10, 2022 12:44 PM (7aERQ)

382 > sharted out loud.
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Fixed.
Posted by: andycanuck


Shart it from the mountaintops
shart it far and wide

Posted by: DB at August 10, 2022 12:44 PM (geLO8)

383 Bringing Hillary into this is all about steaming up the Karen and Wine Mom's vaginas.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 10, 2022 12:44 PM (D8mow)

384 Then he'd be arrested for obstruction, and also resisting arrest.

Posted by: Joey
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Don't work that way--you do not physically confront them but you make clear that you do not consent to the search repeatedly, and so on.

BTW, Trump was not present, he was elsewhere.

Posted by: whig at August 10, 2022 12:44 PM (CXr4y)

385
Likely exaggerating. If any lawyer let them get away with that, they need to be fired immediately.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 12:43 PM (Ivdso)



Maybe, but I'm betting the intimidation factor of weapons by the dozen brandished had an effect.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 12:45 PM (Zz0t1)

386 I know we are now a banana republic and actual laws don't matter. But could one of the lawyers explain WTH a "sealed warrant" is? and how any agent can just wave something they claim is a sealed warrant and use it to violate the 4th amemdment without giving the property owner or their staff a chance to review the so-called warrant? Cuz its BS. The feds could have a PCH lottery in an envelope and shove their way in. Oh sure "any evidence obtained without a valid warrant can't be used at a trial" AS IF they couldn't get some flunky to fake a warrant later if they were even looking for evidence and not just out to steal shit.

--

Amazing, isn't it? As in, 'I can't believe my eyes' amazing. I checked the front door. Yep, it says America.

All of this just makes pathetic statements like Tim Scott's all the more incredible. I got a couple of doozies for senators, that's about all I can say.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 10, 2022 12:45 PM (sVtYq)

387 "Y'all come one back once you have it on paper with a signature. G'bye. I'm closing the door now."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:41 PM (WWh8n)

"The warrant's sealed? So is this gate, BITCH. Come back when your lawyer finishes law school."

Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 12:45 PM (RX6ZY)

388 Didn't the FBI also order Trump's security to turn off all the cameras? What were they trying to hide?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 12:40 PM (ptqGC)
~~~~~

They did, but the staff refused. Don't know what happened after that.

Posted by: IrishEi at August 10, 2022 12:45 PM (3ImbR)

389 380 Trump wasn't even there, right?
Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at August 10, 2022 12:44 PM (53oGX)

==========

It's the Horde. You can safely assume that this question has been answered two dozen times already, at least five of them by Amy Schumer socks.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 12:45 PM (LvTSG)

390 I saw Warrant play Hammerjacks in 1990. Groomer Magistrate opened for them. Good show.

Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 10, 2022 12:45 PM (OuH7W)

391 >>> 359 But when they are there with three armed cops on your doorstep, you don't really have much choice in the matter.

Yeah you do. You tell them to come back when they have the papers.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 12:42 PM (Ivdso)

Obviously there's a wee bit of risk when three armed individuals are on your doorstep. However, if someone refuses to show you a warrant, how do you know it's a real warrant or that they are real cops? Thieves have faked no-knock warrants to get inside people's houses.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 10, 2022 12:45 PM (llON8)

392 364 298 I hope it's true that no copy of a warrant was given to Trump but if it were me, no copy of warrant , no searchy.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at August 10, 2022 12:37 PM (nY6ib)

Then he'd be arrested for obstruction, and also resisting arrest.
Posted by: Joey at August 10, 2022 12:43 PM (ynpvh)

Welcome to the Deep Police State! Remember! Back the Blue!

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 12:45 PM (oHd/0)

393 317 Backhole the Clown

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 10, 2022 12:39 PM (89T5c)

Honks every time he's penetrated...

Posted by: Joey at August 10, 2022 12:45 PM (ynpvh)

394 "Y'all come one back once you have it on paper with a signature. G'bye. I'm closing the door now."
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:41 PM (WWh8n)


And then?
Flash bang grenade - BOOM!
Smash down your door, shoot your dog, rape your kid and slam you up against the wall.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 12:45 PM (AW0uW)

395 I think they are doing all this to get someone mad enough to do something violent...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 12:45 PM (bs+z0)

396 not sure why Trump didn't tell the FBI to fuck off. Refuse to let them on the property.



Well he was 1000 miles away for starters…

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 12:41 PM (3vQN0)

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Assuming there was a Secret Service detail at MAL, you'd think that they could have stopped the raid, especially at Trump's request, but I don't know.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 10, 2022 12:45 PM (lf9Z7)

397 Off retarded sock!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 10, 2022 12:45 PM (ynpvh)

398 330 Trump did something shady? Oh no, don't tell all those distinguidged alumni of "Trump University"!!
Posted by: Boffo the Clown at August 10, 2022 12:40 PM (jMHBP)

Yeah not as good as the Boffo Clown School and Douche Bag Emporium but at least he had more than one attendee.. Tee Hee

Posted by: Commentor What Got a Shirt at August 10, 2022 12:45 PM (5s/s5)

399 Trump was in New York when it happened. Nobody showed him a warrant from 10 feet away. How do these stories spread?

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 12:45 PM (3vQN0)

400 Posted by: Boffo the Clown at August 10, 2022 12:43 PM (jMHBP)


I guess it's better to have 7 Jeep Wranglers on loan from a local car dealer.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 12:46 PM (Zz0t1)

401 395 I think they are doing all this to get someone mad enough to do something violent...
Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 12:45 PM (bs+z0)


I guess recruiting has been off.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 10, 2022 12:46 PM (mZ3xv)

402 @ChuckCallesto - 10m

BREAKING REPORT: At Least Three DOJ Attorneys for Merrick Garland Joined FBI During 9 Hour Raid of Trump Mar-a-Lago Compound - While Blocking Trump Attorneys from Building...

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 12:46 PM (ptqGC)

403 399 Trump was in New York when it happened. Nobody showed him a warrant from 10 feet away. How do these stories spread?
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 12:45 PM (3vQN0)

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I read it as they showed Trump's lawyer the warrant from ten feet away.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 12:46 PM (LvTSG)

404 389 380 Trump wasn't even there, right?
Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at August 10, 2022 12:44 PM (53oGX)

It's the Horde. You can safely assume that this question has been answered two dozen times already, at least five of them by Amy Schumer socks.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 12:45 PM (LvTSG)

THATS FUNNY BECAUSE AMY SCHUMER STEALS JOKES!!!!

Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger...... at August 10, 2022 12:46 PM (oHd/0)

405 Without an executed warrant, everything they find will be inadmissible in court? If it's a fishing expedition, then maybe they don't care.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 10, 2022 12:44 PM (fs1hN)
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It's perfectly admissible if she consented to the search, which she did if she let them in anyway (at least, that is how it will be argued). Never, ever consent to a search. If they have a warrant, they'll execute it. If they don't but force their way in and search anyway, your lawyer can throw a ton of obstacles into their path. If it's a big case, none of that will matter because you'll be railroaded anyway, but it's the right procedure nonetheless.

Refuse to consent to the search, demand the warrant, declare your intention to remain silent, and if they break the rules then they break rules. Work with your lawyer to sort it out after the fact, but consent to nothing.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:46 PM (WWh8n)

406 An elite all-girls school in Nashville has scrapped its 155-year-old single-sex policy and will now begin admitting males who identify as females

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at August 10, 2022 12:46 PM (FVME7)

407 >>>The problem for the Feebs is that this won't play out in the DC home court but rather in the 11th Circuit which has an originalist tilt.

Best news I've heard in two days.

Thank you, whig.

Posted by: creeper at August 10, 2022 12:46 PM (cTCuP)

408 Trump was in New York when it happened. Nobody showed him a warrant from 10 feet away. How do these stories spread?
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 12:45 PM (3vQN0)



Eric said they showed the lawyer the warrant from 10 ft away.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 12:46 PM (Zz0t1)

409 Hillary looked like a baboon's ass when she was forcefully expelled from her Mama's gut.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 10, 2022 12:47 PM (QSjkU)

410 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 12:42 PM (AW0uW)

That was good….damn good.

Posted by: 7man at August 10, 2022 12:47 PM (qwO6y)

411 Wall St partying like it’s 1999.

If you're pretending 2% moves are unusual with this perma-broken system these days, I guess.

Posted by: spindrift at August 10, 2022 12:47 PM (h5TKJ)

412 Poor Boffo. He's never gonna lure any kids to his storm drain at this rate.

Posted by: Just Lily at August 10, 2022 12:47 PM (RLLZj)

413 Posted by: Boffo the Clown at August 10, 2022 12:37 PM (jMHBP)

Did you ever think that the shit comes out of your brain is diseased for a reason? That you share it to get constant confirmation that you really are what you are?

Don't worry, you are. And your pride is inverted. But you already know that.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 12:47 PM (/6Rxy)

414 Likely exaggerating. If any lawyer let them get away with that, they need to be fired immediately.


the lawyer's name sounds feminine. she's probably cute, youngish, and weighs 120 soaking wet

give her a break

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2022 12:47 PM (w0NJk)

415 Trump wasn't even THERE!

Posted by: Amy Schumer at August 10, 2022 12:47 PM (Zz0t1)

416 All of this just makes pathetic statements like Tim Scott's all the more incredible. I got a couple of doozies for senators, that's about all I can say.
Posted by: Lady in Black at August 10, 2022 12:45 PM (sVtYq)

Let's just say there's more documentation of stuff going up Tim Scott's butt than Lindsay Graham's.

I believe he was paying chicks to make him call himself Toby? What is with inner circle men and getting pegged, anyways? Hunter Biden was the same way.

Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 12:47 PM (RX6ZY)

417 It's going to be fun watching Joe and Hunter Biden get arrested the afternoon of Inauguration Day, 2024.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2022 12:47 PM (I2/tG)

418 I read it as they showed Trump's lawyer the warrant from ten feet away.


Shh. He's rolling.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 10, 2022 12:47 PM (yQpMk)

419 Every cuck blue check is now a Warrant expert.
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 12:39 PM (3vQN0)

They need one for Uncle Tom's cabin.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 10, 2022 12:47 PM (89T5c)

420 334 President Trump's Attorney Alina Habba

Hiya Habba !
Habba Espanol ?

Posted by: JT at August 10, 2022 12:40 PM (T4tVD)

I've not seen pics, so I don't know if the proper response is "Habba Habba!"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 10, 2022 12:47 PM (ynpvh)

421 Posted by: Boffo the Clown at August 10, 2022 12:37 PM (jMHBP)

Someone need to ban this ass wipe

Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 12:47 PM (bs+z0)

422 >>>Gestapo tactics.

Yep. They are going to get someone killed.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 10, 2022 12:48 PM (U3uv2)

423 Assuming there was a Secret Service detail at MAL, you'd think that they could have stopped the raid, especially at Trump's request, but I don't know.
Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 10, 2022 12:45 PM (lf9Z7)

Agents follow the Principle.... they don't protect property unless they are still in office.

Trump was not there... so no Secret Service.

Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger...... at August 10, 2022 12:48 PM (oHd/0)

424 I've not seen pics, so I don't know if the proper response is "Habba Habba!"
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 10, 2022 12:47 PM (ynpvh)

She's quite pretty

Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 12:48 PM (bs+z0)

425 Trump wasn't even there, right?
Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit 

Well, Biden is not all there either.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at August 10, 2022 12:48 PM (FVME7)

426
Fecklessness. Betrayal. Insurrection.

Top. Scum.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 10, 2022 12:48 PM (lf9Z7)

427 341 Posted by: Boffo the Clown at August 10, 2022 12:40 PM (jMHBP)

Now do DOCTOR Jill Biden and Bernie Sanders' wife.

Seriously. You're embarrassing your entire bloodline. Find new work.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 12:41 PM (Zz0t1)

It's clowns all the way down. And sodomy, lots and lots of sodomy.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 10, 2022 12:48 PM (ynpvh)

428 406 An elite all-girls school in Nashville has scrapped its 155-year-old single-sex policy and will now begin admitting males who identify as females


lol!
you know what, good.
the ladies made all the boys schools go coed!
now the girls schools get to go coed too

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2022 12:49 PM (w0NJk)

429 And then?
Flash bang grenade - BOOM!
Smash down your door, shoot your dog, rape your kid and slam you up against the wall.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 12:45 PM (AW0uW)
++++
That is a possibility, yes. That is always a possibility when dealing with the gun thugs of the state.

Turn on your recorder (your cell phone has one), object, try to send them away, but do not interfere. If they force their way in, then continue objecting. Answer no questions other than to assert your right to remain silent. Call your lawyer.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:49 PM (WWh8n)

430 An elite all-girls school in Nashville has scrapped its 155-year-old single-sex policy and will now begin admitting males who identify as females
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks


What is the State of Tennessee's stance on abortion?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2022 12:49 PM (fP8pU)

431 Assuming there was a Secret Service detail at MAL, you'd think that they could have stopped the raid, especially at Trump's request, but I don't know.

The Secret Service stepped aside to let the FBI onto the property.

I'm sure this was coordinated beforehand.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2022 12:49 PM (I2/tG)

432 Sorry, my dog ate the warrant..

...FBI...

Posted by: Bruce at August 10, 2022 12:49 PM (HGy5P)

433
Honks every time he's penetrated...
Posted by: Joey at August 10, 2022 12:45 PM (ynpvh)



And his neighbors are PISSED.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 12:49 PM (Zz0t1)

434 Assuming there was a Secret Service detail at MAL, you'd think that they could have stopped the raid, especially at Trump's request, but I don't know.
Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 10, 2022 12:45 PM (lf9Z7)

The FBI called the MAL Secret Service detail 45 minutes before the Garland Raid. When the FBI arrived at the gate, the Secret Service detail escorted them onto the property.

Posted by: mrp at August 10, 2022 12:49 PM (6eRlp)

435 Posted by: Boffo the Clown at August 10, 2022 12:40 PM (jMHBP)

I think I know this guy. He is as retarded as he comes across.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 10, 2022 12:49 PM (U3uv2)

436 If they don't but force their way in and search anyway, your lawyer can throw a ton of obstacles into their path. If it's a big case, none of that will matter because you'll be railroaded anyway, but it's the right procedure nonetheless.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:46 PM (WWh8n)

True, but there's a non-zero chance the FBI would have killed the loyal guards and workers in the process. Trump chose well to order compliance.

Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 12:49 PM (RX6ZY)

437 Trump doesn't deal with ugly women. It's likely his lawyer is toasty.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 10, 2022 12:49 PM (QSjkU)

438 Codeword FUCKUFBI.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 10, 2022 12:49 PM (ufFY8)

439 Posted by: Boffo the Clown at August 10, 2022 12:37 PM (jMHBP)

Someone need to ban this ass wipe
Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 12:47 PM (bs+z0)



He amuses me, like a clown.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 10, 2022 12:49 PM (yQpMk)

440 Gloria Tang.....VERY well named bikini model.
Just to lighten the mood with slow motion jiggles
https://youtu.be/JA9kefsX3fo
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water

Her sister's name is Poona.

Posted by: JT at August 10, 2022 12:49 PM (T4tVD)

441 BREAKING REPORT: At Least Three DOJ Attorneys for Merrick Garland Joined FBI During 9 Hour Raid of Trump Mar-a-Lago Compound

*

Wait, but his boss is...

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 12:49 PM (ILqOb)

442 351 so what was the FBI doing the whole time they were in Trump's house with no one allowed to watch?

it's a puzzlement

Posted by: DB at August 10, 2022 12:41 PM (geLO

One house. 30 agents. 10 hours.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 10, 2022 12:49 PM (ynpvh)

443 "what crimes they believe were broken."

it may have already been asked but how do you break a crime?

Posted by: fd at August 10, 2022 12:50 PM (g7F1G)

444 Trump probably should release a list of the stuff they took that they weren't supposed to. You wanna bet these assholes didn't take since souvenirs, and knowing thre perverts there that protected Epstein they probably got a box of Barron's unmentionables for themselves to take home.

Posted by: Rbastid at August 10, 2022 12:50 PM (wVYbe)

445 yep, they're not in DC, trump should sue. A florida jury would probably assrape these pig fed devils.

Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 10, 2022 12:50 PM (OuH7W)

446 Trump was not there... so no Secret Service.

No, Secret Service was definitely there - they keep the property secured when Trump isn't there.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2022 12:50 PM (I2/tG)

447 Socialist distancing.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 10, 2022 12:44 PM (lf83v)

*doffs cap*

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 12:50 PM (/6Rxy)

448 OT: back from the doctor. My skin is OK but my bones have to come out.

Now that I've told that joke, the important rant is that I had to wait 55 minutes for the guy to get to me! I was early, they called me into the exam room quickly, so far so good, and then I . . . sat . . . there. With no book and nothing to read on the walls but a beautifully-drawn poster about how respiratory allergies happen.

When the MD finally showed up, he reminded me of Kenny Loggins: a beard (I got him to pull down the face diaper) and hair with a short ponytail tied back. At least the staff didn't get on me about wearing the Face Cloth of Submission and Virtue Signaling. In any case he seems reasonably sharp.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 10, 2022 12:50 PM (J2vNu)

449 Be vocal, make sure you object, call your lawyer, etc. but object and repeatedly state you do not consent to the search. The po po will not protect your rights--you must do so unequivocally.
Posted by: whig


Also be sure that you are recording as much audio and video as you can.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 10, 2022 12:50 PM (wUHYj)

450 I wonder if there is someone at the fbi that just realized they will ultimately be the one left holding the bag when this shit show blows up.
Because everyone above them claims they didn't authorize the raid.


Cincinnati field office hardest hit.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 10, 2022 12:50 PM (Xrfse)

451 Yea guys, I get it that Trump wasn't physically there and couldn't physically say "fuck off" to the FBI. So what? The staff has no power to allow ANYONE to enter the property, warrant or no warrant. I can't believe they all the staff weren't taught to say "sorry, we are not the owners and can't let anyone inside without the owner's permission. You should reach out to Trump's attorney. Here is his number. I have nothing further to say."

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2022 12:51 PM (iFTx/)

452 Turn on your recorder (your cell phone has one), object, try to send them away, but do not interfere. If they force their way in, then continue objecting. Answer no questions other than to assert your right to remain silent. Call your lawyer.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:49 PM (WWh8n)

-----------

You do know the FBI took the cellphone of a congressman who was traveling with his family, because of his support of Trump, right?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 12:51 PM (ptqGC)

453 "There are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns. That is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, the ones we don’t know we don’t know."
-- Donald Rumsfeld


"F-- that. Twitter has ALL THE KNOWNS."

-- NeverTrumpers

Posted by: Hands at August 10, 2022 12:51 PM (786Ro)

454 AG Garland is currently seeking an indictment of Trump! Soon our national nightmare will be over!!

Posted by: Sid at August 10, 2022 12:51 PM (1oTQa)

455 It's going to be fun watching Joe and Hunter Biden get arrested the afternoon of Inauguration Day, 2024.

Take the oath of office.

Order Biden's arrest.

That's the only inaugural address I need to hear.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 12:51 PM (AW0uW)

456 roger stone should sue too, right?

Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 10, 2022 12:51 PM (OuH7W)

457 An elite all-girls school in Nashville has scrapped its 155-year-old single-sex policy and will now begin admitting males who identify as females

This is a policy that will make families stop sending their girls to that school, and for what? .01% of the population?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 12:51 PM (Ivdso)

458 I think we really need a practicing lawyer to weigh in on this. Just because you've seen something on TV doesn't mean it represents real life. Not to mention, haven't the FBI proven - beyond a shadow of a doubt - that they don't particularly care what the rules are ?

Posted by: deadrody at August 10, 2022 12:52 PM (/jrmI)

459 441 BREAKING REPORT: At Least Three DOJ Attorneys for Merrick Garland Joined FBI During 9 Hour Raid of Trump Mar-a-Lago Compound

Wait, but his boss is...
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 12:49 PM (ILqOb)

So, high powered DOJ lawyers go on a fishing trip to look for POTENTIAL classified documents?

Interesting.

Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger...... at August 10, 2022 12:52 PM (oHd/0)

460 Too bad Trump wasn't there.

He could have pulled a "Now youse can't leave scene" on the corrupt FBO/DOJ mutts like in the bar scene from "A Bronx Tale."

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 10, 2022 12:52 PM (lf83v)

461 AG Garland is currently seeking an indictment of Trump! Soon our national nightmare will be over!!
Posted by: Sid at August 10, 2022 12:51 PM (1oTQa)



Indeed. One way or another.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 10, 2022 12:52 PM (yQpMk)

462 there's a right to record police in most places, I'm sure that's true in florida as well.

Posted by: Doctor sockamster-Doom Speaker-EdD Intersectional Dynamics at August 10, 2022 12:52 PM (OuH7W)

463 Sock off

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 12:52 PM (oHd/0)

464 Seriously. You're embarrassing your entire bloodline. Find new work.
Posted by: Sponge
----------

Cruel Sponge is the best Sponge.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2022 12:52 PM (ZlD3b)

465 I can't believe they all the staff weren't taught to say "sorry, we are not the owners and can't let anyone inside without the owner's permission. You should reach out to Trump's attorney. Here is his number. I have nothing further to say."
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 10, 2022 12:51 PM (iFTx/)

I'm sure Donald Trump has seen this coming a mile away and ordered zero resistance to FBI searches of his property.

He is a decent man, which is much better than a smart boy, and that's why most of his staff is loyal. Well beyond what anyone could expect, under the circumstances.

Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2022 12:52 PM (RX6ZY)

466 You do know the FBI took the cellphone of a congressman who was traveling with his family, because of his support of Trump, right?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 12:51 PM (ptqGC)
++++
Yup. And they might take yours, too. The best approach is to have your video stream real-time to some offsite cloud service. But even without that, and if they take or destroy your phone, it is still the right thing to do. If you're not a big shot or it's not a big case, the will to railroad you will be reduced and your lawyer can probably make hay anyway.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:53 PM (WWh8n)

467 also I agree with Legal Insurrection - this was a provocation, firstly, hoping to get a reaction that could be twisted into "insurrection" from someone on the Right. hopefully that failed.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2022 12:41 PM (w0NJk)

If they are looking for a provocation they will not hope to get one, they will manufacture one. This time I fear they will do it properly, not set up grandparents for walking into congress.
I'm waiting for Witmer kidnapping on steroids.

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at August 10, 2022 12:53 PM (53oGX)

468 457 "An elite all-girls school in Nashville has scrapped its 155-year-old single-sex policy and will now begin admitting males who identify as females"

This is a policy that will make families stop sending their girls to that school, and for what? .01% of the population?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 12:51 PM (Ivdso)

AWFLs probably make up a lot more of their customer base than that.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 10, 2022 12:53 PM (b2nrj)

469 Because everyone above them claims they didn't authorize the raid.

Yeah that does not bode well for its legality: nobody wants to admit they had any part of it? Really?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 12:53 PM (Ivdso)

470 Since boffo means 1. a successful or commendatory performance or 2 unrestrained laughter, I think he failed on the first count and so we can laugh at him for that.
An antonym tp boffo clown-Horrible clown.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2022 12:53 PM (wvo9L)

471 they probably got a box of Barron's unmentionables for themselves to take home.
Posted by: Rbastid at August 10, 2022


***
Don't forget Melania's lingerie!

Posted by: Secret Melania Fans at the FBI at August 10, 2022 12:53 PM (J2vNu)

472 Bank stocks are up 5%. That’s a big move. And indexes are up 7-8% from the 2022 lows. The worst is behind. Shit was oversold as they typically are. And now the upside begins.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 12:53 PM (3vQN0)

473 Trumps "Local" lawyer arrived on the scene an HOUR after the search began...who did the agents show it to when they arrived, apparently the SS agents who waved them in. When she got there she asked to have the warrant, they refused, at first even refusing to let her look at it..they didn't give her a copy and the search items as well as the probable cause were "Sealed"..Trump would need to go to court and get a judge to require the information be divulged. Same thing with an inventory of what was taken...she wasn't allowed to observe or even remain inside the bldg. Was forced to stand outside.

Posted by: birddog at August 10, 2022 12:53 PM (uAI4S)

474 The DOJ is going to indict Trump. I just feel it coming.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 12:53 PM (ptqGC)

475 Posted by: deadrody at August 10, 2022 12:52 PM (/jrmI)

/points upthread..

You do know that there are a couple of practicing Lawyers who are Morons of Good Standing?

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 12:53 PM (oHd/0)

476
Cruel Sponge is the best Sponge.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2022 12:52 PM (ZlD3b)



He's proving that anal pregnancy is actually a thing.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 12:53 PM (Zz0t1)

477 370 If only there had been a doofus with an F150 and a Trump flag there, this would have gone differently! To the convoy!
Posted by: Boffo the Clown at August 10, 2022 12:43 PM (jMHBP)

So Barfo the Clown can you tell me how you learned your schtick? You must have studied with the masters. Schecky, Don Rickels, ect.

Posted by: Commentor What Got a Shirt at August 10, 2022 12:53 PM (5s/s5)

478 Don't worry chumps, Trump will send you ten emails begging for money soon.

Posted by: Boffo the Clown at August 10, 2022 12:53 PM (jMHBP)

479 Gloria Tang.....VERY well named bikini model.
Just to lighten the mood with slow motion jiggles
https://youtu.be/JA9kefsX3fo
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water

She walks very nicely.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 10, 2022 12:54 PM (U3uv2)

480 archives gov/foia/pra-trump-admin

Records Released In Response to Presidential Records Act (PRA) questions under the Trump Administration

In part, The National Archives received records from the Trump Administration which ended on January 20, 2021. We are in the process of preserving and providing access to these records, including all official Trump Administration social media content, and deleted posts from @ realDonaldTrump and @ POTUS. As records are made available online, they may be accessed through the trumplibrary gov website, which is part of NARA. The Trump Library will begin accepting FOIA requests on January 20, 2026 in accordance with the PRA.

Posted by: Lola at August 10, 2022 12:54 PM (NIYa7)

481 I should go listen to some music, but I'm curious as to what Ace's next post is going to be.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 12:54 PM (AW0uW)

482 So Barfo the Clown can you tell me how you learned your schtick? You must have studied with the masters. Schecky, Don Rickels, ect.

Posted by: Commentor What Got a Shirt at August 10, 2022 12:53 PM (5s/s5)

Dude has been short-stroking it since Mueller.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 10, 2022 12:54 PM (U3uv2)

483 474 The DOJ is going to indict Trump. I just feel it coming.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 12:53 PM (ptqGC)

It turns out that part of the law that about government records, has in it that if convicted, they can never hold Federal Office again.

THAT is the goal. Using the full power of the Feds to find a technical violation, to keep Trump off the Ballot.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 12:55 PM (oHd/0)

484 I guess the free clinic ran out of their supply of the monkeypox vax...so the trolls had nothing else to do but come here. Try again tomorrow, halfwits. And in the meantime, don't bust open those sores.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 10, 2022 12:55 PM (sVtYq)

485 Because everyone above them claims they didn't authorize the raid.
Maybe they are - stick with me here - lying.

Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2022 12:55 PM (6TxNR)

486 The DOJ is going to indict Trump. I just feel it coming.

Of course they are.

The only question is whether they do it before or after than midterms.

Given their current level of desperation, I suspect that they will do it before the midterms - "no action 90 days before an election" be damned.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2022 12:55 PM (I2/tG)

487 Emerald Robinson has a lot more on this (delete spaces)

https://emeralddb3.substack.com/p/
the-fbi-raids-mar-a-lago-what-we

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 10, 2022 12:55 PM (w0NJk)

488 282 I wonder if there is someone at the fbi that just realized they will ultimately be the one left holding the bag when this shit show blows up.

Because everyone above them claims they didn't authorize the raid.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2022 12:35 PM (fP8pU)

---They stole a national election right before your fucking eyes, and you actually think anything will happen to anyone from the DOJ/FBI that was involved in this raid? Let me guess...you're a "trust the plan" kind of guy?

Posted by: Jimmy Crack Corn at August 10, 2022 12:56 PM (aQXw5)

489 454 AG Garland is currently seeking an indictment of Trump! Soon our national nightmare will be over!!
Posted by: Sid at August 10, 2022 12:51 PM (1oTQa)

What a relief! Then we can back to regular life in a booming economy and healthy society with its low crime rates, sanely sealed borders, affordable energy costs, expanding job and stock markets and general feeling of peace and prosperity across the land.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 10, 2022 12:56 PM (H8QX8)

490 I guess the free clinic ran out of their supply of the monkeypox vax...so the trolls had nothing else to do but come here. Try again tomorrow, halfwits. And in the meantime, don't bust open those sores.
Posted by: Lady in Black at August 10, 2022 12:55 PM (sVtYq)



Just cover the lesions with band-aids and boff away!!!!

- - The CDC

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 12:56 PM (Zz0t1)

491 FBI: "Okay, next week, we can raid the massive human trafficiking operation in Swampass, Texas, or we can go to Mar A Lago and rummage through Melania's negligee, hang out in an air conditioned mansion and not have to worry abut actually confronting criminals. What do you prefer?"

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 10, 2022 12:56 PM (lf83v)

492 My guess is that this wasn't some conspiracy or attempt to trigger violence or some operation to drop evidence at the scene or anything.

I think this is just a pissing match that got out of control. Someone wanted documents that Trump had in his possession. Trump didn't want to give them up. Deep state demanded it, Trump pointed out they are declassified, and eventually they got so angry they stormed the house to get it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 12:56 PM (Ivdso)

493 So are people upset about what Tim Scott actually SAID, or just what the media is reporting ?

He's sort of giving the FBI the benefit of the doubt, to some extent, but also acknowledging that if they aren't actually pursing something significant, that its a huge mess.

He's right about that. He's just wrong that the FBI deserves a scintilla of benefit of the doubt.

Posted by: deadrody at August 10, 2022 12:56 PM (/jrmI)

494 The DOJ is going to indict Trump. I just feel it coming.
---------------------
I'm about 50-50 on this.

I can see the DOJ indicting and then releasing no information because it's an 'active investigation' and the WH will just say no comment. We're full on BR now.

Posted by: MJ at August 10, 2022 12:57 PM (zwDuR)

495 BTW, it appears the FBI is not above planting evidence to get their desired result: https://bit.ly/3PdhdCQ

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at August 10, 2022 12:57 PM (Bd6X8)

496 Maybe they are - stick with me here - lying.
Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2022 12:55 PM (6TxNR)
++++
Sure, and I suspect at least one of them is. But then the FBI is screwed anyway. Do they take the fall for an unauthorized raid, or do they throw the big wheel who ordered it under the bus and thus sign up for major and hidden punishments?

I hope the FBI people have yuge and luxurious ulcers as they flop-sweat over the conundrum.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:57 PM (WWh8n)

497 483 It turns out that part of the law that about government records, has in it that if convicted, they can never hold Federal Office again.

THAT is the goal. Using the full power of the Feds to find a technical violation, to keep Trump off the Ballot.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 12:55 PM (oHd/0)

=========

The Constitution outlines the requirements for office. Violating federal law is not prohibitive considering the constitutional requirements.

SCOTUS has said so more than once.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 12:57 PM (LvTSG)

498 Posted by: Lola at August 10, 2022 12:54 PM (NIYa7)

Wait, they are saying that his PRIVATE tweets, from his private account, are covered by the Records Act... even while he was acting as a Private Citizen, NOT DOING OFFICIAL BUSINESS, on said Tweets?

Private correspondence... and campaign type stuff, is NOT covered under the Records Act.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 12:57 PM (oHd/0)

499 The only question is whether they do it before or after than midterms.

Given their current level of desperation, I suspect that they will do it before the midterms - "no action 90 days before an election" be damned.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2022 12:55 PM (I2/tG)

Agreed, before. Late September.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 10, 2022 12:57 PM (H8QX8)

500 Bozo the Clown > Krusty the Clown > Kinko the Kid-Loving Clown > Pogo the Clown > Boffo the Clown

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 12:57 PM (AW0uW)

501 >Now that I've told that joke, the important rant is that I had to wait 55 minutes for the guy to get to me! I was early, they called me into the exam room quickly, so far so good, and then I . . . sat . . . there.


I hate when they park me in some examining room alone and make me wait- a few times I've decided 'fuck this' and just gone back out to the general reception area

Posted by: DB at August 10, 2022 12:58 PM (geLO8)

502 THAT is the goal. Using the full power of the Feds to find a technical violation, to keep Trump off the Ballot.

ACE pointed out yesterday that the Supreme Court has repeatedly rejected any such idea because the constitution is the exclusive standards for who can be president and who cannot.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 12:58 PM (Ivdso)

503 Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 12:53 PM

It never adversely touched the elites, and we need to pay for all of new government programs.

Posted by: Lola at August 10, 2022 12:58 PM (NIYa7)

504 The DOJ is going to indict Trump. I just feel it coming.

--

They'll indict him, and forbid him any access to his lawyers, and won't allow him to present any evidence or defend himself.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 10, 2022 12:58 PM (sVtYq)

505 I have no idea what the sexual orientation of Sid and Boffo are, but they clearly need to date one another and play a game of "Can you find the clown nose?"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2022 12:58 PM (wvo9L)

506 FYI Did a brief check with the FJC and lo and behold, https://tinyurl.com/wts6xwt4 This is a statistics study of sealed warrants in general.

Regarding classified information--there was one sealed warrant during the time period searched involving a magistrate's order involving classified information. That is out of thousands. There were two involving classified information warrants that were sealed by a district court judge.

Ditto on the warrants. Sealing a warrant does not mean that Trump's attorneys may not see it btw as it only means that it will not be publicly released. The judge has discretion to release the warrant to whomever they please.

Posted by: whig at August 10, 2022 12:58 PM (CXr4y)

507 449 Be vocal, make sure you object, call your lawyer, etc. but object and repeatedly state you do not consent to the search. The po po will not protect your rights--you must do so unequivocally.
Posted by: whig

*Also be sure that you are recording as much audio and video as you can.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 10, 2022 12:50 PM (wUHYj)

*may not be legal in some states, like Kalifornia

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 10, 2022 12:58 PM (ynpvh)

508 Birddog @ 473-
So these 'agents' were the same Atlanta demoncrap poll officials who kicked out republican pollwatchers, boarded up the windows, locked the doors, and flushed feminine napkins and tablecloths down the shitters? Same profile.

Posted by: Eromero at August 10, 2022 12:58 PM (0OP+5)

509 It turns out that part of the law that about government records, has in it that if convicted, they can never hold Federal Office again.

THAT is the goal. Using the full power of the Feds to find a technical violation, to keep Trump off the Ballot.


The slight problem with that is that it is well established legally that the Constitution, and only the Constitution, sets the requirements for President and Vice President.

I'm sure they'll get a Hawaiian judge to claim that Trump can't run - but that will be overturned very quickly, unless they start arresting judges.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2022 12:58 PM (I2/tG)

510 Sure, and I suspect at least one of them is. But then the FBI is screwed anyway. Do they take the fall for an unauthorized raid, or do they throw the big wheel who ordered it under the bus and thus sign up for major and hidden punishments?

I hope the FBI people have yuge and luxurious ulcers as they flop-sweat over the conundrum.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:57 PM (WWh8n)


Who, precisely, is going to hold them to account? I don't think they are sweating at all. They know nothing will happen to them.

Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2022 12:58 PM (6TxNR)

511 The DOJ is going to indict Trump. I just feel it coming.
_______________________________________________

Can you feel that?
Ah, shit.

Posted by: Down with the Sickness at August 10, 2022 12:58 PM (lf83v)

512
He's right about that. He's just wrong that the FBI deserves a scintilla of benefit of the doubt.
Posted by: deadrody at August 10, 2022 12:56 PM (/jrmI)



His entire comment shows he's not paying attention.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 12:59 PM (Zz0t1)

513 So these 'agents' were the same Atlanta demoncrap poll officials who kicked out republican pollwatchers, boarded up the windows, locked the doors, and flushed feminine napkins and tablecloths down the shitters? Same profile.

Ditto Philly

Posted by: kallisto at August 10, 2022 12:59 PM (dCxaZ)

514 They're clearly scared of Durham, and lashing out.

Durham is about to wrap this whole thing up.

Operation Wait Seven Years and Lose Your Stupid First Case Because That'll Show 'Em is full steam ahead.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 12:59 PM (/6Rxy)

515 Same here. I don't get it. No warrant for me to see? F*ck off.
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 10, 2022 12:37 PM (DRSnL)

Trump wasn't there. He was in NY.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at August 10, 2022 12:59 PM (MkuC5)

516 So basically I think the FukBerAye planted evidence to confiscate

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 10, 2022 12:59 PM (y8Kvt)

517 459 441 BREAKING REPORT: At Least Three DOJ Attorneys for Merrick Garland Joined FBI During 9 Hour Raid of Trump Mar-a-Lago Compound
Wait, but his boss is...
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 12:49 PM (ILqOb)

So, high powered DOJ lawyers go on a fishing trip to look for POTENTIAL classified documents?
Interesting.
Posted by: Ben Roethlisberger...... at August 10, 2022 12:52 PM (oHd/0)

But still couldn't find a REAL judge to sign off on the secret warrant...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 10, 2022 12:59 PM (ynpvh)

518 anal pregnancy is actually a thing.

RECTAL BIRTH!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty of BAD TRUMPY MANS! at August 10, 2022 12:59 PM (kPy0C)

519 504 The DOJ is going to indict Trump. I just feel it coming.

--

They'll indict him, and forbid him any access to his lawyers, and won't allow him to present any evidence or defend himself.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 10, 2022 12:58 PM (sVtYq)

I believe they will charge him also...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 12:59 PM (bs+z0)

520 I have no idea what the sexual orientation of Sid and Boffo are, but they clearly need to date one another and play a game of "Can you find the clown nose?"
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2022 12:58 PM (wvo9L)



Hide the yam.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 10, 2022 01:00 PM (yQpMk)

521 504 The DOJ is going to indict Trump. I just feel it coming.

--

They'll indict him, and forbid him any access to his lawyers, and won't allow him to present any evidence or defend himself.

Posted by: Lady in Black
--------------------
Not likely. Even Stalin allowed defendants legal counsel to give the pretense of a fair trial.

Posted by: whig at August 10, 2022 01:00 PM (CXr4y)

522

How the fuck doesn't Big Guy Joe have anyone investigating his corrupt scumbag corpse.

Unreal.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at August 10, 2022 01:00 PM (XnbJC)

523 I shudder thinking of all the massage oil that Boffo the Clown may have had to rub into Lincoln Project senior staff in order to get his internship there.

Posted by: Hands at August 10, 2022 01:00 PM (786Ro)

524 No tv stations will run Trump's ads in 24. And they won't cover his rallies.

There will also be no pres debates.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at August 10, 2022 01:00 PM (9FBGz)

525 500 Bozo the Clown > Krusty the Clown > Kinko the Kid-Loving Clown > Pogo the Clown > Boffo the Clown
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 12:57 PM (AW0uW)

Aw, come on!

Posted by: Hershel Schmoikel Pinchas Yerucham Krustofsky at August 10, 2022 01:00 PM (PiwSw)

526
He's proving that anal pregnancy is actually a thing.
Posted by: Sponge
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Yeah, it's all fun and games for him...until the pustules begin to erupt.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 10, 2022 01:00 PM (X1qOg)

527 They stole a national election right before your fucking eyes, and you actually think anything will happen to anyone from the DOJ/FBI that was involved in this raid? Let me guess...you're a "trust the plan" kind of guy?
Posted by: Jimmy Crack Corn at August 10, 2022 12:56 PM (aQXw5)

The FBI agent in charge of the Agents who created the Whitmer 'White Conspiracy' Kidnapping plot? That was discovered during Trials???

Promoted to DC, and is now in charge of the Office prosecuting Jan 6 protestors.

And no, I'm not kidding.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 01:00 PM (oHd/0)

528 The best part of Backhole the Clown ran down Ronald McDonald's pasty ass crack.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 10, 2022 01:00 PM (89T5c)

529 "Couldn't they have refused entry until they did hand it over?Posted by: Jordan61 --
Nope. Trump's Secret Service team escorted the FBI raiders into the compound."

So now the FBI could say "hey, they let us in without the warrant ... what's the big deal, we had permission"?

(because FBI can lie constantly without consequence)

Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2022 01:01 PM (Cus5s)

530 The Soros-funded DA in Fulton County, GA is going after Trump, too. Jeebus, what a clown show.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 01:01 PM (ptqGC)

531 527 They stole a national election right before your fucking eyes, and you actually think anything will happen to anyone from the DOJ/FBI that was involved in this raid? Let me guess...you're a "trust the plan" kind of guy?
Posted by: Jimmy Crack Corn at August 10, 2022 12:56 PM (aQXw5)

The FBI agent in charge of the Agents who created the Whitmer 'White Conspiracy' Kidnapping plot? That was discovered during Trials???

Promoted to DC, and is now in charge of the Office prosecuting Jan 6 protestors.

And no, I'm not kidding.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 01:00 PM (oHd/0)

vPoints at nicv

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 10, 2022 01:01 PM (b2nrj)

532 I have no idea what the sexual orientation of Sid and Boffo are, but they clearly need to date one another and play a game of "Can you find the clown nose?"

--

Fen for the win!

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 10, 2022 01:01 PM (sVtYq)

533 *Also be sure that you are recording as much audio and video as you can.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 10, 2022 12:50 PM (wUHYj)

*may not be legal in some states, like Kalifornia
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 10, 2022 12:58 PM (ynpvh)


Reliable sources tell me that if I've got nothing to hide I shouldn't care.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at August 10, 2022 01:01 PM (AiZBA)

534 474 The DOJ is going to indict Trump. I just feel it coming.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 12:53 PM (ptqGC)

It turns out that part of the law that about government records, has in it that if convicted, they can never hold Federal Office again.

THAT is the goal. Using the full power of the Feds to find a technical violation, to keep Trump off the Ballot.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 12:55 PM (oHd/0)

Interesting "what if". The constitutional issue is if the Article II qualifications "trump" a congressional act. Idictment, trial schedule, and a conviction, followed by an appeal. I think the Dems want their "conviction" as close to the 2024 election as possible before the US Supreme Court can hear the appeal, leaving each state to decide whether Trump can appear on a statewide ballot, or not.

Posted by: mrp at August 10, 2022 01:01 PM (6eRlp)

535 Joe was out today saying the recession was over... 0 inflation in July ! Of course it's still at 8.5 %

Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 01:01 PM (bs+z0)

536 The best part of Backhole the Clown ran down Ronald McDonald's pasty ass crack.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 10, 2022 01:00 PM (89T5c)



I can't wait for him to start telling stories about his Uncle Daddy's times on the farm with the animals.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 01:01 PM (Zz0t1)

537 Trump wasn't there. He was in NY.
Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at August 10, 2022 12:59 PM (MkuC5)


I know. I meant the staff. But apparently the Secret Service escorted them right in, so whatever.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 10, 2022 01:02 PM (DRSnL)

538 They'll indict him, and forbid him any access to his lawyers, and won't allow him to present any evidence or defend himself.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 10, 2022 12:58 PM (sVtYq)


That's crazy talk!

Posted by: Alex Jones at August 10, 2022 01:02 PM (6TxNR)

539 Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 12:57 PM

Yup. I was in awe, which was also why I posted link to archive site.

Posted by: Lola at August 10, 2022 01:02 PM (NIYa7)

540 Joe was out today saying the recession was over... 0 inflation in July ! Of course it's still at 8.5 %
Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 01:01 PM (bs+z0)



Not going up means everything is fine. This is fine.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 01:02 PM (Zz0t1)

541 How the fuck doesn't Big Guy Joe have anyone investigating his corrupt scumbag corpse.

I am reasonably sure that 90% of the reason that the Democrats insisted on Biden being the candidate including fixing the primary votes and debates, was to prevent him from being investigated and busted.

His riches and earnings are apparently intertwined with a lot of people in power and they wanted him protected. What better way than becoming president?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 01:02 PM (Ivdso)

542 And this is why I refuse to be black pilled.

These people are idiots.

Why should I assume some grand scheme of 9th dimensional chess and treachery, when simple stupidity is the most likely reason?

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 10, 2022 01:02 PM (5p7BC)

543 Someone explain to me how a warrant can be sealed such that the person being raided cannot know what it contains.

That's exactly what the Fisa court warrant they had for him was. Hell, most of the time you aren't even allowed to be told there even is a warrant.

Posted by: Lost My Cookies at August 10, 2022 01:02 PM (/N8ur)

544
They'll indict him, and forbid him any access to his lawyers, and won't allow him to present any evidence or defend himself.

Posted by: Lady in Black
--------------------
Not likely. Even Stalin allowed defendants legal counsel to give the pretense of a fair trial.
Posted by: whig at August 10, 2022 01:00 PM (CXr4y)

January 6th kangaroos say "What?"

Posted by: Just Lily at August 10, 2022 01:02 PM (RLLZj)

545 Also... on what constitutional grounds can your lawyer be barred from the premises during a search warrant?

I hope Trump releases the video footage. But, like the Jan 6 committee, edits just the really inflammatory stuff, regardless of context, and weaves in clips of Democrats and FBI / DOJ personnel (but I repeat myself) saying inflammatory, incendiary things about Trump

Posted by: SMFH at August 10, 2022 01:02 PM (OkpI3)

546 They'll indict him, and forbid him any access to his lawyers, and won't allow him to present any evidence or defend himself.

Posted by: Lady in Black
--------------------
Not likely. Even Stalin allowed defendants legal counsel to give the pretense of a fair trial.
Posted by: whig at August 10, 2022 01:00 PM (CXr4y)

--

I dunno. There were millions in the Gulag that got pulled out of their homes, charged, given 10-25, no representation and no rights at all to defend themselves.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 10, 2022 01:02 PM (sVtYq)

547 The slight problem with that is that it is well established legally that the Constitution, and only the Constitution, sets the requirements for President and Vice President.

*

Tie it up in the states.

See also: NC (and other) sue and settle to allow Democrats to change voting laws outside of legislative requirements in advance of 2020 because of COVID

They don't have to win. They just have to keep him from winning.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 01:02 PM (ILqOb)

548 THAT is the goal. Using the full power of the Feds to find a technical violation, to keep Trump off the Ballot.
-------

It's always three things...

1. Put Trump on defense
2. Punish him and intimidate all associates
3. Feed the Narrative

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 01:03 PM (/6Rxy)

549 Something just popped into my head for some reason......


Anyone heard from Ladyl in a while?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 01:03 PM (Zz0t1)

550 @JesseKellyDC - 23m

In the end, it all comes back to Barack Obama. He spent 8 years filling every part of this government with America-hating communist activists. That's what finished us. We were done when he walked out of the White House. We just didn't know it yet.

Credit him. He was very good.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 01:03 PM (ptqGC)

551 ACE pointed out yesterday that the Supreme Court has repeatedly rejected any such idea because the constitution is the exclusive standards for who can be president and who cannot.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 12:58 PM (Ivdso)

And how long would it take for the Supremes to rule on that... as it would wind its way through the court system?

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 01:03 PM (oHd/0)

552 Yup. And they might take yours, too. The best approach is to have your video stream real-time to some offsite cloud service. But even without that, and if they take or destroy your phone, it is still the right thing to do. If you're not a big shot or it's not a big case, the will to railroad you will be reduced and your lawyer can probably make hay anyway.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 12:53 PM (WWh8n)


And soon we'll have balding, overweight, sweating, shaking, alcoholic IRS agents with a bad case of rosacea and govt. supplied Glock 43 loaded with hollow points auditing your ass back to 2017 because the neighbor swears they saw you wearing a red cap at a BBQ last fall.

Nazi.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at August 10, 2022 01:03 PM (zB/T/)

553 But apparently the Secret Service escorted them right in, so whatever./i]

I mean, what were they supposed to do? Shoot the FBI? Its not their job to get into a firefight with cops serving a warrant.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 01:03 PM (Ivdso)

554 So basically I think the FukBerAye planted evidence to confiscate

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabbystabamillion at August 10, 2022 12:59 PM (y8Kvt)

--------

The irony here is -- that because of the Stasi technique deployed -- if by chance there were something incriminating (which I don't believe for a second, but for argument's sake), pretty much everybody would assume it was planted now (although those on the dark side would never admit that).

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 10, 2022 01:03 PM (fWdU+)

555 500 Bozo the Clown > Krusty the Clown > Kinko the Kid-Loving Clown > Pogo the Clown > Boffo the Clown

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 12:57 PM (AW0uW)

Clown fish >>>>>>>>>Buttfuck the Clown

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 10, 2022 01:04 PM (ynpvh)

556 Dude has been short-stroking it since Mueller.
Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 10, 2022 12:54 PM (U3uv2)

Yeah Remember the Unknown Comic? The guy that wore a paperbag on his head? heh heh. Funny shite! We can use a mascot around here and someone to sharpen our quips with ... kick'em when they're up kick'em when they're down

Posted by: Commentor What Got a Shirt at August 10, 2022 01:04 PM (5s/s5)

557 Credit him. He was very good.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 01:03 PM (ptqGC)

Yes... Depressing but true

Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 01:04 PM (bs+z0)

558 They tried to flush papers down the toilet but a Koran had plugged it up.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2022 01:04 PM (63Dwl)

559 Who, precisely, is going to hold them to account? I don't think they are sweating at all. They know nothing will happen to them.
Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2022 12:58 PM (6TxNR)
++++
That's the problem with mafia stuff - whoever is above them. If they lie back and accept the narrative that they acted without authority, then the people in charge will probably be fired (handsomely rewarded, but fired) and the agency will get a lot more bad press and the brand will be terribly tarnished in the eyes of the public. That isn't *too* important, but it might be after the election if the states decide to start pushing back. They're now known to be corrupt political operators by their own admission.

If they decide to defend the FBI's brand and disclose who authorized it, they're pissing in their own swimming pool and will face retribution inside the government, probably severe retribution. Power players and big wigs don't take kindly to that shit.

So they now have to decide whether to take the hush money and risk doing tremendous damage to the FBI brand and popular legitimacy, or cross the Party apparatchik who is actually in charge at great risk to themselves.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 01:04 PM (WWh8n)

560 Different law applies to Democrats, as we all know, but David Harsanyi reminds us (at the Federalist) of real crimes committed by Clinton that the DOJ let slide.

When Clinton set up a secret private server to circumvent transparency, likely to hide favor-trading related to her now-obsolete corrupt foundation, it was a potential felony. In that illegal server, the FBI would find 100 emails containing classified information, 65 marked "Secret," 22 marked "Top Secret," and over 2,000 emails that would be retroactively marked classified. Many felonies.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2022 01:05 PM (PXzH6)

561 Even Stalin allowed defendants legal counsel to give the pretense of a fair trial.

Huh?

Wrong-O.

Posted by: Zombie Joe Stalin! at August 10, 2022 01:05 PM (I2/tG)

562 >>> 497 483 It turns out that part of the law that about government records, has in it that if convicted, they can never hold Federal Office again.

THAT is the goal. Using the full power of the Feds to find a technical violation, to keep Trump off the Ballot.
Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 12:55 PM (oHd/0)

=========

The Constitution outlines the requirements for office. Violating federal law is not prohibitive considering the constitutional requirements.

SCOTUS has said so more than once.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 10, 2022 12:57 PM (LvTSG)

I'm still laughing at these pathetic losers who were shrieking about OMG INSURRRECTION REE!!!! and now they're trying to get normies riled up about overdue library books.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 10, 2022 01:05 PM (llON8)

563 they didn't give her a copy and the search items as well as the probable cause were "Sealed".
Posted by: birddog


" no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

If it is sealed it describes precisely nothing. How is this not a prima facie 4th amendment violation?

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 10, 2022 01:05 PM (vcv8B)

564 If sniffing the first lady's panties is wrong I don't want to be right!

Posted by: The FBI at August 10, 2022 01:05 PM (ESjRY)

565 And how long would it take for the Supremes to rule on that... as it would wind its way through the court system?

They already have, several times. Its established law in the US now.

Mind you, it would damage the campaign for Trump to have been arrested and convicted on some crime that carries penalties like that, which may be their goal, but they cannot legally prohibit him from running for or sitting as president through that law.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 01:05 PM (Ivdso)

566 Who is Sid?

Posted by: runner at August 10, 2022 01:05 PM (2igD3)

567 Why should I assume some grand scheme of 9th dimensional chess and treachery, when simple stupidity is the most likely reason?

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 10, 2022 01:02 PM (5p7BC)

Because you're eyeballing the wrong scale. It's not about smart or stupid. It's about what they are willing to do.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 01:05 PM (/6Rxy)

568 @514

>>Durham is about to wrap this whole thing up.

Even I don't have the heart to snark on Durham much anymore.

Durham's got a good gig, solid hours, great pay, better beni's and he's going to keep on keeping on until someone decides to fix the glitch.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 10, 2022 01:05 PM (Nmxop)

569 An example excerpt of affidavit in support of sealed no notice warrant to search and seize - now unsealed and public:
This is an ongoing investigation of which the targets are unaware. Specifically, this sophisticated, covert FBI investigation is currently operating in over 90 countries. The FBI is targeting almost two dozen ___ The Subject Account is directly connected to a target of the FBI’s investigation. The investigation will end -----, and the investigation will be publicly announced on June 8, 2021. Until then, the continued success of the investigation depends on maintaining the secrecy of the FBI’s role in____. If notice of this warrant were served on the user and/or subscriber of the Subject Account immediately, it could result in flight from prosecution of the user of the subject account and his coconspirators, destruction of evidence , or otherwise seriously jeopardize the ongoing investigation by ...

Posted by: it is the work of a moment to educate oneself these days using the computer, this horsehit is an OP at August 10, 2022 01:06 PM (dubSA)

570 Who is Sid?
Posted by: runner at August 10, 2022 01:05 PM (2igD3)


Troll who plays soccer and sports the doucheknot.

Well, that's what I heard.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 01:06 PM (Zz0t1)

571 The more I hear about this, the more I am convinced that this about something else.

This isn't a political operation to keep Trump from running in 2024. There is a literal piece of paper that they are trying to find so they can destroy it.

They don't give a damn if there is any legal ramifications or if Trump ends up in court or not. They need this piece of paper to make it disappear. They have probably already tried blackops efforts and they failed.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 10, 2022 01:07 PM (5p7BC)

572 OMG INSURRRECTION REE!!!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 10, 2022 01:05 PM (llON

They proudly called themselves "The Resistance" right up until January 5th 2021.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 01:07 PM (/6Rxy)

573 lolololol

@staceyabrams - 2h

This morning I took my daily COVID test and tested positive for COVID-19. Before my speech yesterday, I tested negative. Today I'm experiencing mild symptoms, and I'm grateful to have been vaccinated and boosted.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 01:07 PM (ptqGC)

574 Historically, the US has had a candidate for President who campaigned from prison...

Posted by: gourmand du jour, with capers at August 10, 2022 01:07 PM (jTmQV)

575 And soon we'll have balding, overweight, sweating, shaking, alcoholic IRS agents with a bad case of rosacea and govt. supplied Glock 43 loaded with hollow points auditing your ass back to 2017 because the neighbor swears they saw you wearing a red cap at a BBQ last fall.

NoVA Morons and Ettes should apply to be those new IRS agents. I can see the headlines now: "37 IRS agents corner Adam Schiff, ask why he deducted his bug eyes on his taxes".

Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2022 01:07 PM (ZGrMX)

576 So they now have to decide whether to take the hush money and risk doing tremendous damage to the FBI brand and popular legitimacy, or cross the Party apparatchik who is actually in charge at great risk to themselves.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 01:04 PM (WWh8n)


Missing the point. Who is posing the risk? Who will call the FBI and DOJ to account? McCarthy next January? They are simply going to lie.

Posted by: Alex Jones at August 10, 2022 01:07 PM (6TxNR)

577 @staceyabrams - 2h

This morning I took my daily COVID test and tested positive for COVID-19. Before my speech yesterday, I tested negative. Today I'm experiencing mild symptoms, and I'm grateful to have been vaccinated and boosted.


I feel sorry for Covid.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2022 01:08 PM (ZGrMX)

578 Off AJ sock

Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2022 01:08 PM (6TxNR)

579 558 They tried to flush papers down the toilet but a Koran had plugged it up.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2022 01:04 PM (63Dwl)

It takes a large toilet to flush down that much crap.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 10, 2022 01:08 PM (ynpvh)

580 "smugly"

I hates smug.

Posted by: BignJames at August 10, 2022 01:08 PM (AwYPR)

581 571 The more I hear about this, the more I am convinced that this about something else.

This isn't a political operation to keep Trump from running in 2024. There is a literal piece of paper that they are trying to find so they can destroy it.

They don't give a damn if there is any legal ramifications or if Trump ends up in court or not. They need this piece of paper to make it disappear. They have probably already tried blackops efforts and they failed.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 10, 2022 01:07 PM (5p7BC)

Seems unlikely to me. Video proof of criminality doesn't mean much let alone a piece of paper.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 10, 2022 01:08 PM (b2nrj)

582 I'm still baffled by the need to jam nearly 100,000 new agents to the IRS. Why this sudden gigantic increase in personnel? What, exactly, is the plan that requires more than a major stadium-full of new Revenuers?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 01:08 PM (Ivdso)

583
@staceyabrams - 2h

This morning I took my daily COVID test and tested positive for COVID-19. Before my speech yesterday, I tested negative. Today I'm experiencing mild symptoms, and I'm grateful to have been vaccinated and boosted.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 01:07 PM (ptqGC)



Enjoy heart problems, cancer and death then, African buffalo.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 01:08 PM (Zz0t1)

584 lolololol

@staceyabrams - 2h

This morning I took my daily COVID test and tested positive for COVID-19. Before my speech yesterday, I tested negative. Today I'm experiencing mild symptoms, and I'm grateful to have been vaccinated and boosted.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 01:07 PM (ptqGC)


How could this happen? She's PRESIDENT OF THE ERF"!

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at August 10, 2022 01:09 PM (AiZBA)

585 Missing the point. Who is posing the risk? Who will call the FBI and DOJ to account? McCarthy next January? They are simply going to lie.
Posted by: Alex Jones at August 10, 2022 01:07 PM (6TxNR)
++++
I suspect that is what will happen, but the risk is from the states and, possibly (though only very, very distantly) the next Congress. This is no-win for the FBI, but playing along and taking the blame for an improperly-authorized raid is probably the lest-bad option.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 01:09 PM (WWh8n)

586 The confiscated phone was owned by the Chairman of the Freedom Caucus. They are probably the next targets.

Posted by: EveR at August 10, 2022 01:09 PM (MUpk6)

587 Heh. A reply to Tank Abrams:

ClayMore2

Ahahaha you take a daily test? You'd be better off spending time at the orthodontist.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 01:09 PM (ptqGC)

588 DaveInFla it could well be simple stupidity.

But look how far their simple stupidity has gotten them over the past 7 years.

Do we want to keep getting our assess handed to us by opponents with "simple stupidity."?

Posted by: Hands at August 10, 2022 01:09 PM (786Ro)

589 They need this piece of paper to make it disappear.
Posted by: Dave in Fla


But that doesn't achieve their goal unless they're 100% sure there are no copies.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 10, 2022 01:10 PM (vcv8B)

590 "504 The DOJ is going to indict Trump. I just feel it coming."

The Jackasses are so far out over their skis at this point that another inch or two will only add to their problems.

"It turns out that part of the law that about government records, has in it that if convicted, they can never hold Federal Office again."

This is already known to be false - once again the Jackasses throwing poop at the wall on Twitter to see if they can get anything to stick.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at August 10, 2022 01:10 PM (MkuC5)

591 Bongino seems to think this is the worst faceplant ever.

Ehh.

No one is going to hold them to account. People will forget. New outrages are coming.

Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2022 01:10 PM (6TxNR)

592 Credit him. He was very good.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 01:03 PM (ptqGC)

And I opened all the doors and gave him the fucking keys!!

Posted by: BOOSH at August 10, 2022 01:10 PM (/6Rxy)

593 Mind you, it would damage the campaign for Trump to have been arrested and convicted on some crime that carries penalties like that, which may be their goal, but they cannot legally prohibit him from running for or sitting as president through that law.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 01:05 PM (Ivdso)

We have Judges in multiple states stopping anti abortion laws from taking effect. Yes, they will eventually get overturned, but how many children will die while that is happening.

Part of lawfare is using the DELAY built into the system. All they would need is ONE Judge somewhere to rule that he could not be on a ballot, and unless the Supremes jumped in IMMEDIATLY.... something they seldom do... it would take months to resolve...

Months during which the campaign would be in chaos.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 01:10 PM (oHd/0)

594 Seems unlikely to me. Video proof of criminality doesn't mean much let alone a piece of paper.

Agree unfortunately

There is crystal clear evidence of Hunter Biden

Smoking crack
Telling an underage prostitute to say he didn't hurt her as she bawls her eyes out
Offering to take money on behalf of his father

And he is guilty as sin free as a bird

Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2022 01:10 PM (ESjRY)

595 This morning I took my daily COVID test and tested positive for COVID-19.

I'm grateful to have been vaccinated and boosted.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 01:07 PM (ptqGC)



Completely missing the ignorance and irony in that statement.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 01:10 PM (Zz0t1)

596 591 Bongino seems to think this is the worst faceplant ever.


Since the last one? All they do is faceplant. It doesn't faze them a bit.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 10, 2022 01:11 PM (H8QX8)

597 >>> 567 Why should I assume some grand scheme of 9th dimensional chess and treachery, when simple stupidity is the most likely reason?

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 10, 2022 01:02 PM (5p7BC)

Because you're eyeballing the wrong scale. It's not about smart or stupid. It's about what they are willing to do.
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 01:05 PM (/6Rxy)

I think many of us are quite aware, especially in light of recent events, how much these psycho scumbags are willing to do. It's *also* about just how fcking stupid they are in underestimating what responses those actions can and will generate. Nothing ever happens, ever, until suddenly you get a Romanian Christmas or even a Sri Lankan Block Party. Or perhaps something worse that is yet to be memed.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 10, 2022 01:11 PM (llON8)

598 582 I'm still baffled by the need to jam nearly 100,000 new agents to the IRS. Why this sudden gigantic increase in personnel? What, exactly, is the plan that requires more than a major stadium-full of new Revenuers?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 01:08 PM (Ivdso)

Expansion of the bureaucracy means new sinecures. It's also a useful tool to go after political enemies.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 10, 2022 01:11 PM (b2nrj)

599 I'm still baffled by the need to jam nearly 100,000 new agents to the IRS. Why this sudden gigantic increase in personnel? What, exactly, is the plan that requires more than a major stadium-full of new Revenuers?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 01:08 PM (Ivdso)

How about the ATF? Betcha' there's funding in there somewhere.

Posted by: BignJames at August 10, 2022 01:11 PM (AwYPR)

600 Today I'm experiencing mild symptoms, and I'm grateful to have been vaccinated and boosted.

I'll bet twitter autocompletes the whole thing as soon as you type "experiencing mild ..."

Posted by: spindrift at August 10, 2022 01:11 PM (h5TKJ)

601 582 I'm still baffled by the need to jam nearly 100,000 new agents to the IRS. Why this sudden gigantic increase in personnel? What, exactly, is the plan that requires more than a major stadium-full of new Revenuers?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 01:08 PM (Ivdso)

Combing through your bank accounts.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 10, 2022 01:11 PM (ynpvh)

602 No one is going to hold them to account. People will forget. New outrages are coming.
Posted by: blaster at August 10,


There is no line in the sand.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at August 10, 2022 01:11 PM (9FBGz)

603 So, by the end of the day, they're going to change the transcript and have it say "zero point zero percent _increase_ in inflation"

And the media will repeat that's what he really said

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 10, 2022 01:12 PM (Zf0+a)

604
Well, there's the obvious conspiracy theory:

The were looking for the Jeffrey Epstein client list.

Posted by: Sphynx at August 10, 2022 01:12 PM (P6qMv)

605 I'm still baffled by the need to jam nearly 100,000 new agents to the IRS. Why this sudden gigantic increase in personnel? What, exactly, is the plan that requires more than a major stadium-full of new Revenuers?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 01:08 PM (Ivdso)
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To squeeze the middle and lower-middle class. They want to go after people with side gigs - selling stuff online, stuff like that - and will need a lot of personnel to track down all that and put the screws to them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 10, 2022 01:12 PM (WWh8n)

606
ClayMore2

Ahahaha you take a daily test? You'd be better off spending time at the orthodontist.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 01:09 PM (ptqGC)



Gastroenterologist

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 01:12 PM (Zz0t1)

607 Someone explain to me how a warrant can be sealed such that the person being raided cannot know what it contains.
==
Its established process in both Federal and States (federal law, criminal rules of procedure and court cases galore, same with state) You get notice, just after the fact. So the mental gymnastics are basically that they get to investigate and keep it secret if there is a risk to witnesses, evidence destruction or they are running a wire tap. It is usually time limited, like 30 days or before indictment. The balance is you get to see it EVENTUALLY. That's how it works now. All these experts on Twitter know this. It is an influence OP designed to erode opinion of Icky Trump.

Posted by: it is the work of a moment to educate oneself these days using the computer, this horsehit is an OP at August 10, 2022 01:12 PM (PVVKi)

608 >>> 573 lolololol

@staceyabrams - 2h

This morning I took my daily COVID test and tested positive for COVID-19. Before my speech yesterday, I tested negative. Today I'm experiencing mild symptoms, and I'm grateful to have been vaccinated and boosted.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 01:07 PM (ptqGC)

It's the imbeciles' version of the Lord's Prayer.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 10, 2022 01:12 PM (llON8)

609 583
@staceyabrams - 2h

This morning I took my daily COVID test and tested positive for COVID-19. Before my speech yesterday, I tested negative. Today I'm experiencing mild symptoms, and I'm grateful to have been vaccinated and boosted.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 01:07 PM (ptqGC)

Enjoy heart problems, cancer and death then, African buffalo.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 01:08 PM (Zz0t1)

I've always thought of her more of a hippo...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 10, 2022 01:12 PM (ynpvh)

610 I am sure it is about documents the government does not want Trump to have as well, and that's as far as it goes. Some fool decided to go get it and damn the consequences, and everyone above them is going "what? a raid? Never heard of it! I never got any notification, I KNOW NOTHINK!!!"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 01:12 PM (Ivdso)

611 599 I'm still baffled by the need to jam nearly 100,000 new agents to the IRS. Why this sudden gigantic increase in personnel? What, exactly, is the plan that requires more than a major stadium-full of new Revenuers?


Destroy middle-class small businesses. To harass and eat out the substance of middle America.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 10, 2022 01:12 PM (H8QX8)

612 582

It is a show of force by the regime. No more than that. Hey are doing it to intimidate and silence you.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 01:13 PM (sgzl6)

613 What, exactly, is the plan that requires more than a major stadium-full of new Revenuers?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 01:08 PM (Ivdso)

Wealth confiscation, duh. Probably part of Biden's upcoming Climate Emergency Declaration.

The seriousness of the situation cannot be overstated.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at August 10, 2022 01:13 PM (MkuC5)

614
I've always thought of her more of a hippo...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 10, 2022 01:12 PM (ynpvh)



I admit I may've missed my target with that one.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 10, 2022 01:13 PM (Zz0t1)

615 There is no line in the sand.
Posted by: I've got bad news for you at August 10, 2022 01:11 PM (9FBGz)


We must not take the bait!

Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2022 01:13 PM (6TxNR)

616 Way back to 14, "how can a magistrate...issue a sealed warrant on the President...?"

Those Democrat Brownshirts that are not externally funded activists are government employees. They will break the law in a heartbeat if they get the wink-wink orders from on high.

Posted by: Joseph Tura at August 10, 2022 01:13 PM (KgeAf)

617 I wonder if they ctrl-c and v the creepy "grateful to be vaccinated and boosted" stuff.

It is like Night of the Living Dead, I swear. They've joined a club. So weird.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 01:13 PM (/6Rxy)

618 " The DOJ is going to indict Trump. I just feel it coming."


They will, after the Nov. election. But they will spend October reassuring the MSM through leaks the indictments are coming.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 10, 2022 01:14 PM (qH6FZ)

619 They want to go after people with side gigs - selling stuff online, stuff like that - and will need a lot of personnel to track down all that and put the screws to them.

Hmm well that tracks with the left's inexplicable hatred of jobbing like Uber drivers. But why do they care? They don't believe they actually need tax revenues, convinced they can infinitely print more money.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 01:14 PM (Ivdso)

620 550 @JesseKellyDC - 23m

In the end, it all comes back to Barack Obama. He spent 8 years filling every part of this government with America-hating communist activists. That's what finished us. We were done when he walked out of the White House. We just didn't know it yet.

Credit him. He was very good.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 01:03 PM (ptqGC)
*******
Every single Republican in office needs to be made to acknowledge this because Trump is going to have to do a lot of firings and is going to need their support.
All of the voters need to demand this acknowledgment.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 10, 2022 01:14 PM (NpAcC)

621
If it is sealed it describes precisely nothing. How is this not a prima facie 4th amendment violation?
Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 10, 2022 01:05 PM (vcv8B)

I'm guessing that sealed warrant procedures were developed in a time when the courts were presumed to be independent and a sufficient check to balance any law enforcement abuse. Since they are colluding now, wouldn't it be awesome if the court and the FBI could be sued for violating constitutional rights? (OK I'm missing a step here for imprisonment of the malfactors but it's a start)

Posted by: Iris at August 10, 2022 01:14 PM (foa6+)

622 It's the imbeciles' version of the Lord's Prayer.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket
__

lol

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 10, 2022 01:14 PM (SVDV2)

623 594 Seems unlikely to me. Video proof of criminality doesn't mean much let alone a piece of paper.

Agree unfortunately
There is crystal clear evidence of Hunter Biden
Smoking crack
Telling an underage prostitute to say he didn't hurt her as she bawls her eyes out
Offering to take money on behalf of his father
And he is guilty as sin free as a bird
Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2022 01:10 PM (ESjRY)

Position has it privileges. For everything else, there's the FIB...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 10, 2022 01:14 PM (ynpvh)

624 Ace, the warrant has to state with particularity what is to be seized. It likely was not produced so it could later be conformed to what was found or fabricated (I am familiar with two cases where this was done). The FBI, in addition to its notorious corruption and fascist tendencies, does not record or film statements, either, but later with eerily accurate precision an agent writes down what he was purportedly told.

The United States has absolutely no moral authority now to lecture Russia, China, or Iran about basically anything.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 10, 2022 01:14 PM (nMx88)

625 Daily Covid test. In 2022. These people!!

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 01:14 PM (sgzl6)

626 When Clinton set up a secret private server to circumvent transparency, likely to hide favor-trading related to her now-obsolete corrupt foundation, it was a potential felony. In that illegal server, the FBI would find 100 emails containing classified information, 65 marked "Secret," 22 marked "Top Secret," and over 2,000 emails that would be retroactively marked classified. Many felonies.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 10, 2022 01:05 PM (PXzH6)

-----------

And hacked by several foreign actors (according to Dan Bongino's contacts and others).

None dare call it treason ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 10, 2022 01:15 PM (fWdU+)

627 Looks like there was a rat in Trump's employ.. Someone told the FBI where to look according to "sources. "

Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 01:15 PM (bs+z0)

628 Just my $.02 worth, but trying to explain this raid, trying to shoe horn some reason, desperate for some semblance of legality is a total waste of energy.
This was pure thug life crap.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, with capers at August 10, 2022 01:15 PM (jTmQV)

629 Just got here...

Didn't Christina Bobb say on Dinesh's webcast that the FBI showed her a copy of the search warrant and then gave her a copy after they were done. Approximately 4:45 on the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSE_W26hRSI&t=1120s

Posted by: jwest at August 10, 2022 01:15 PM (/BlEx)

630 Wealth confiscation, duh. Probably part of Biden's upcoming Climate Emergency Declaration.

The seriousness of the situation cannot be overstated.
Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at August 10, 2022 01:13 PM (MkuC5)


They don't need anyone's money, money printer goes brrrt.

They do need to TAKE people's money, though. Particularly anyone who has passed "disinformation." Or thinks the American President should consider America First.

Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2022 01:15 PM (6TxNR)

631 I wonder if they ctrl-c and v the creepy "grateful to be vaccinated and boosted" stuff.

It is strangely cultish. Every one of them feels compelled to add that in every time, without exception, and the wording is eerily familiar like they learned it in Catechism.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 01:15 PM (Ivdso)

632 They were ordered to find a reason to raid Trump's property. And they were told to have everything ready to go by a Monday in August.

That is what happened.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 01:15 PM (/6Rxy)

633 If the Federal Government were a person we'd consider him a maniac that needed to be put down.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at August 10, 2022 01:15 PM (Afa+j)

634 Ah yes noted success Dan Bongina. Successful at having a square head.

Posted by: Boffo the Clown at August 10, 2022 01:16 PM (jMHBP)

635 628 Just my $.02 worth, but trying to explain this raid, trying to shoe horn some reason, desperate for some semblance of legality is a total waste of energy.
This was pure thug life crap.
Posted by: gourmand du jour
___

This^

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 10, 2022 01:16 PM (SVDV2)

636 Looks like there was a rat in Trump's employ.. Someone told the FBI where to look according to "sources. "
Posted by: It's me donna at August 10,


Probably part of a plea deal.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at August 10, 2022 01:16 PM (9FBGz)

637 .. Someone told the FBI where to look according to "sources. "

Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 01:15 PM (bs+z0)

Do we have reason to believe it? I don't.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 01:17 PM (/6Rxy)

638 He spent 8 years filling every part of this government with America-hating communist activists. That's what finished us.

Clinton before him as well. Bush between did nothing to deal with this, because he had one-world stars in his eyes and was so deep in with the intelligence operations they probably told him it was all part of an op to save America.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 01:17 PM (Ivdso)

639 Every single Republican in office needs to be made to acknowledge this because Trump is going to have to do a lot of firings and is going to need their support.
All of the voters need to demand this acknowledgment.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 10, 2022 01:14 PM (NpAcC)


I hope Trump has a Republican Senate in 2025 so they can expeditiously approve his nominations...oh, wait.

Posted by: blaster at August 10, 2022 01:17 PM (6TxNR)

640 Can't wait until this ends like Goodfellas. Like art.

Posted by: Boffo the Clown at August 10, 2022 01:17 PM (jMHBP)

641 Seems unlikely to me. Video proof of criminality doesn't mean much let alone a piece of paper.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy
--------
I don't think it has anything to do with criminal activity.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 10, 2022 01:17 PM (5p7BC)

642 I wonder if they ctrl-c and v the creepy "grateful to be vaccinated and boosted" stuff.

It's exactly that wording every time, so it's coming from somewhere.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2022 01:17 PM (ZGrMX)

643 They don't believe they actually need tax revenues, convinced they can infinitely print more money.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 01:14 PM (Ivdso)

They do it for fun.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 01:18 PM (/6Rxy)

644 Looks like there was a rat in Trump's employ.. Someone told the FBI where to look according to "sources. "

Lot of stories out there. One I heard was that the FBI had already come by and locked certain things up and told the Trump family not to mess with it, then came back (but didn't have the keys).

Who knows? Its going to take a while to unshovel all the BS here.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 01:18 PM (Ivdso)

645 She's yet another example of the Establishment grabbing up every woman or gay warm body who claims to be even slightly "conservative" so we can "do outreach" to liberals, and then, surprise surprise, she turns out to be a liberal herself.

Can we stop doing that now? (I myself may have sinned...)

The Establishment would lose its shit at me.

I do believe, though I could be very wrong, that showing the warrant is allowed and that a copy of a sealed warrant cannot be released by either party. Note how I admit that I might not be correct.

Posted by: alexthechick at August 10, 2022 01:18 PM (vl0zu)

646 632 They were ordered to find a reason to raid Trump's property. And they were told to have everything ready to go by a Monday in August.

That is what happened.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 01:15 PM (/6Rxy)

You'd think they'd wait for a Friday...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 10, 2022 01:18 PM (ynpvh)

647 It's the imbeciles' version of the Lord's Prayer.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 10, 2022 01:12 PM (llON

---------

And the atheist's version of a rabbit's foot.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 10, 2022 01:18 PM (fWdU+)

648 As much as I want Trump to be vindicated, I'm more concerned right now with the mid-terms.. If the Dems somehow retain the House and Senate we are truly toast

Posted by: It's me donna at August 10, 2022 01:18 PM (bs+z0)

649 Peeps here always talk about how Obama is dumb and lazy and shit. No he’s not. He’s smart and did a lot of work to destroy the country. Jessie Kelly gets it.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 01:18 PM (sgzl6)

650 Can't wait until this ends like Goodfellas.

Nobody is going after Biden like that, he's in with the deep state and protected.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 01:18 PM (Ivdso)

651 Rick Wilson
@TheRickWilson

Why hasn't Trump released a copy of the warrant that was served at Mar A Lago?
=======


This is so tiring.
Once again, whatever Trump does or does not do is announced as clear evidence of HIS GUILT!

Posted by: Gref at August 10, 2022 01:19 PM (AMIL/)

652 Without daily testing COVID goes away. That's pretty much the entire point.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 01:19 PM (ILqOb)

653 Looks like there was a rat in Trump's employ.. Someone told the FBI where to look according to "sources. "
Posted by: It's me donna at August 10,


Probably part of a plea deal.


No staff schlub would have access to "classified" documents. And if Trump, as president, declassified them, they are no longer classified.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 10, 2022 01:19 PM (fP8pU)

654 641 Seems unlikely to me. Video proof of criminality doesn't mean much let alone a piece of paper.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy
--------
I don't think it has anything to do with criminal activity.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 10, 2022 01:17 PM (5p7BC)

Why would they need to cover up something innocuous?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 10, 2022 01:19 PM (b2nrj)

655 24 Harold Ford, Jr. was on "The Five" and repeated "show the warrant" over and over and over.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2022 12:08 PM (63Dwl)

This knucklehead is constantly being billed as the 'reasonable' Democrat. He has always - always - spouted the party line. He's never seen a Democrat worth criticizing. Ever.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 10, 2022 01:19 PM (mfcnR)

656 Since they are colluding now, wouldn't it be awesome if the court and the FBI could be sued for violating constitutional rights?
Posted by: Iris


I'll settle for not having my constitutional rights violated in the first place.

This sh!t has me so mad...

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 10, 2022 01:20 PM (vcv8B)

657 If it is sealed it describes precisely nothing. How is this not a prima facie 4th amendment violation?
Posted by: quantum mechanic at
==
it describes everything. You just can't see it until like 30 days down the road.

See 215, 352 and 569

Posted by: it is the work of a moment to educate oneself these days using the computer, this horsehit is an OP at August 10, 2022 01:20 PM (YqmfT)

658 They criminals love dates and symbolism. 8/8 was when Nixon resigned. And it’s why they chose that date for the raid.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 01:20 PM (sgzl6)

659 They are afraid of us because we will elect President Trump (3rd time!). If the take him down, the treatment we get will make the nazis and commies look like Red Cross coffee girls

Posted by: Eromero at August 10, 2022 01:20 PM (0OP+5)

660 No staff schlub would have access to "classified" documents. And if Trump, as president, declassified them, they are no longer classified.
Posted by: rickb223

Not staff. Trump has a lot of high level officials visiting.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at August 10, 2022 01:20 PM (9FBGz)

661 If they're so interested in the warrant why aren't they asking the Eff.Bee.EYE to show it?

LOL

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 10, 2022 01:21 PM (llON8)

662 I know there are laws, rules and regulations about copying certain classified documents, but given how acutely aware Trump is of this corrupt police state, is there any way in hell he does not have copies of whatever was purportedly seized? Also, has the names and addresses of the involved agents been published yet? And has DeSantis put these pigs under 24-hour surveillance?

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 10, 2022 01:21 PM (nMx88)

663 think many of us are quite aware, especially in light of recent events, how much these psycho scumbags are willing to do.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 10, 2022 01:11 PM (llON

I left many a thing unsaid.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 01:21 PM (/6Rxy)

664 "Noted Easily-Duped Bumpkin Ed Morrissey assumed Trump had the warrant because all of the c*cks and liberals he follows on Twitter told him he did and that was good enough for Ed!"

Well, wasn't it?

Posted by: Hugh Hewitt at August 10, 2022 01:21 PM (mfcnR)

665 obama did say that he was going to 'fundamentally transform' this country


here it is

Posted by: DB at August 10, 2022 01:21 PM (geLO8)

666 So I'm guessing all of this is tied to the PATRIOT Act, right?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Gas demand is below pandemic levels at August 10, 2022 01:21 PM (ILqOb)

667 1 As if the Eff.Bee.EYE would provide an inventory...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 10, 2022 12:02 PM (llON


I got a receipt when they searched my quarters. Well, to be fair, that was a few decades ago.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at August 10, 2022 01:22 PM (8C7+r)

668 >>> 657 If it is sealed it describes precisely nothing. How is this not a prima facie 4th amendment violation?
Posted by: quantum mechanic at
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it describes everything. You just can't see it until like 30 days down the road.

See 215, 352 and 569
Posted by: it is the work of a moment to educate oneself these days using the computer, this horsehit is an OP at August 10, 2022 01:20 PM (YqmfT)

It isn't as if this is the *only* violation of the 4th amendment - or any of the others - in the past 50+ years.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 10, 2022 01:22 PM (llON8)

669 Jared doesn't want to go to jail like Daddy. Pompeo wants to run before he regains weight. Ron wants to run while he's still known. Mitch wants him gone because he cost him Georgia. Lot of knives out for the fat man.

Posted by: Boffo the Clown at August 10, 2022 01:22 PM (jMHBP)

670 I do believe, though I could be very wrong, that showing the warrant is allowed and that a copy of a sealed warrant cannot be released by either party. Note how I admit that I might not be correct.
Posted by: alexthechick at August 10, 2022 01:18 PM (vl0zu)

After spending at least two or three minutes researching this subject this morning I can confidently proclaim you are wrong.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 10, 2022 01:22 PM (qH6FZ)

671 I'm still baffled by the need to jam nearly 100,000 new agents to the IRS.

DEI
Customer Service
IRS Tip Recordkeeping & Reporting regs
Earned Income Tax Credit, 2022
And more......

Posted by: Lola at August 10, 2022 01:22 PM (NIYa7)

672 The only weird thing about the US resending into a fascist dictatorship is that it took so long. 250 years was a pretty good run as a free country by historical standards.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 01:23 PM (sgzl6)

673 Ah yes noted success Dan Bongina. Successful at having a square head.

Posted by: Green-Eyed Ass-Pirate Clown at August 10, 2022 01:16 PM (jMHBP)

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Ah, the green-eyed monster strikes again.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 10, 2022 01:23 PM (lf9Z7)

674 Peeps here always talk about how Obama is dumb and lazy and shit. No he’s not. He’s smart and did a lot of work to destroy the country. Jessie Kelly gets it.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 10, 2022 01:18 PM (sgzl6)

Obama is dumb and lazy. He's a puppet that was really good at reading from a script with feeling, and hated his white mammy enough to want revenge on the entire western world. In other words, perfect. But can you see that dummy talking through actual strategy? No. He listened to people much smarter than he is. He was smart enough to do that.

Posted by: ... at August 10, 2022 01:24 PM (/6Rxy)

675 nood up

Posted by: BignJames at August 10, 2022 01:24 PM (AwYPR)

676 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSE_W26hRSI&t=1120s
Posted by: jwest at August 10, 2022 01:15 PM (/BlEx)

thanks for that... very informative.

Funny how no one else is talking about what WITNESSES actually said or saw.

Posted by: Romeo13 at August 10, 2022 01:24 PM (oHd/0)

677 Why would they need to cover up something innocuous?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy
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As an example, something that seriously damages our intelligence sharing arrangements with the five eyes.

I don't know what it is, but I can think of many examples of documents that would be very damaging, but would not have anything to do with actions that are criminal.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at August 10, 2022 01:25 PM (5p7BC)

678 Never before have so few been so wrong about so much.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 10, 2022 01:25 PM (KbCG3)

679 He insulted the ham n eggers!

Where does the phrase come come anyways? How does it impart "integrity"? Just higher cholesterol I would think.

Posted by: Paladin at August 10, 2022 01:26 PM (KX5Wh)

680 I'm still baffled by the need to jam nearly 100,000 new agents to the IRS.

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"Why are you writing checks credit > $600 to your mortgage company every month? What are you hiding! Are you cooking meth for a living? Prove you're not cooking meth!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 10, 2022 01:26 PM (lf9Z7)

681 I do believe, though I could be very wrong, that showing the warrant is allowed and that a copy of a sealed warrant cannot be released by either party. Note how I admit that I might not be correct.\
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You can't read it or copy it. You may see a paper waived at you but maybe not -- - because you are officially not entitled to "notice" anymore at the time of the raid - that is delayed by Judge's order.

Posted by: it is the work of a moment to educate oneself these days using the computer, this horsehit is an OP at August 10, 2022 01:26 PM (UxX5y)

682
That's the only inaugural address I need to hear.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at August 10, 2022 12:51 PM (AW0uW)

I would enjoy watching all of the Democrats at the inauguration being rounded up and arrested too.

Posted by: Iris at August 10, 2022 01:26 PM (foa6+)

683 If they're so interested in the warrant why aren't they asking the Eff.Bee.EYE to show it?

Because they aren't interested in the details of the warrant, they are trying to use this to attack and demonize Trump.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 10, 2022 01:26 PM (Ivdso)

684 Totally OT-ACE

Are you going to go on vacation, Ace? Usually sometime in August you do-or you talk about it anyway. You work very hard and you write very well and we appreciate it, but doing this day after day must be hard. It's like J.J. doing "The Morning Report" and dealing with the heavy news, but he moved away. I'm sure if you told people you wanted to go away, they would put in extra for the tip jar. I just gave yesterday. How about the Adirondacks. That's not far and it's beautiful,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2022 01:26 PM (wvo9L)

685 @JesseKellyDC - 23m

In the end, it all comes back to Barack Obama. He spent 8 years filling every part of this government with America-hating communist activists. That's what finished us. We were done when he walked out of the White House. We just didn't know it yet.


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It's certainly true that the gangrene started in earnest with him.

As pessimistic as I can be, and I admit it's a fault of mine regarding politics, I still believe that what he's done can be reversed. There is nothing to stop us from reversing the carnage to America he's caused. But it requires enormous courage to do what's right and necessary. And if it's left up to our political duncery in the Republican Party, it won't happen.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 10, 2022 01:27 PM (sVtYq)

686 My extreme inner cynic wonders if this all may just redound to giving the networks something to boost flagging ratings. Nobody did better for the MSM than Trump.

Posted by: SMFH at August 10, 2022 01:29 PM (OkpI3)

687
It is strangely cultish. Every one of them feels compelled to add that in every time, without exception, and the wording is eerily familiar like they learned it in Catechism.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor


I wonder how they feel about Raymond Shaw?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2022 01:31 PM (63Dwl)

688 This morning I took my daily COVID test and tested positive for COVID-19. Before my speech yesterday, I tested negative. Today I'm experiencing mild symptoms, and I'm grateful to have been vaccinated and boosted.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2022 01:07 PM (ptqGC)

It's the imbeciles' version of the Lord's Prayer.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 10, 2022 01:12 PM (llON


Brilliant, ma'am!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at August 10, 2022 01:35 PM (v23vE)

689 "Boffo the Clown"

Sometimes you pick the nic - sometimes the nic picks you...

Posted by: Boswell at August 10, 2022 01:38 PM (+Cgut)

690 Ten feet? Approximately the same distance from which the DNC's entertainment industry donors like to show subordinates their junk.

Posted by: Anotheranon at August 10, 2022 01:38 PM (8Ze5j)

691 As a victim of the federal government and a subject of a federal search warrant, the procedure is different than that of a state or local search warrant. The federal search warrant is for the most part blank, and the focus of the search is contained in a multi-page affidavit. So, they can and do search without one acknowledgement of what they're looking for, but they leave an inventory of what they took, which is nice. Fuck the FBI and their "rank-and-file" with a thousand red-hot pokers.

Posted by: DefundTheFeds at August 10, 2022 01:42 PM (lDjlz)

692 Sealed warrant protects the confidential informant.

Posted by: torabora at August 10, 2022 01:43 PM (Y274z)

693 10 Secret Service should have told the FBI to piss off until they handed over a true copy of the warrant.

Wonder how many SS were there considering Trump was not in residence at the time. Any? A few of Trump's own security maybe, but the regs for former presidents might not extend to non-current residences!?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at August 10, 2022 01:47 PM (peWy1)

694 It has been posted before- the constitution lists the ONLY requirements for President. natural born citizen, 35 years old, and a resident for at least 14 years. Indicted, etc doesn't matter.

Posted by: free tibet at August 10, 2022 01:59 PM (lRqp7)

695 I'm positive we'll vote our way out of this, having all the votes needed in the correct caliber.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 10, 2022 02:08 PM (KATBx)

696 How is it lawful that someone's security system has to be turned off?

Posted by: BillBixby at August 10, 2022 02:09 PM (nPGg6)

697 An elite all-girls school in Nashville has scrapped its 155-year-old single-sex policy and will now begin admitting males who identify as females
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at August 10, 2022 12:46 PM (FVME7)

Fair warning that the school is already failing to teach its students properly. Now they get to be raped as well.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 10, 2022 02:15 PM (eoQWY)

698 It is strangely cultish. Every one of them feels compelled to add that in every time, without exception, and the wording is eerily familiar like they learned it in Catechism.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Its because it is a religion, and if you get one thing wrong you will be burned as a heretic.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 10, 2022 02:17 PM (eoQWY)

699 Hey! AoS gets linked on CFP!

I hope this place doesn't get to uppity for us little peons...

Posted by: Shepherd Lover at August 10, 2022 02:24 PM (a4lnH)

700 Boffo the Clown is proof that something resembling human life can be produced from anal seks.
What a pathetic, dog butt licking, lying, turd-nozzle.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at August 10, 2022 02:40 PM (JNTt1)

701 Just curious,,if no search warrant was actually provided,,is there a possibility they would post construct a warrant to fit and then have it signed by a "legitimate "judge?

Posted by: Steve Mccord at August 10, 2022 03:04 PM (I7ROb)

702 Waving a bull shit fake warrant in front of his lawyers is NOT the same as having and being able to read the warrant! That and the panty sniffing FBI telling the Trump lawyers they couldn't watch the search is pure bull shit and you can bet that was because they were sniffing panties and planting evidence!

Posted by: Jim1937 at August 10, 2022 03:31 PM (3gpUw)

703 Remember "Moderate Merrick" Garland, anyone?

The Supreme Court nominee of Obozo the Magnificent?

Yeah, that guy.

Posted by: Beverly at August 10, 2022 03:46 PM (C5H+L)

704 That wasn't a warrant. It was a fishing license.

Posted by: bobdog at August 10, 2022 04:15 PM (icOH3)

705 Hey lowlife do the Worms look down to see you?

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at August 10, 2022 06:20 PM (wGqjj)

706 the regime is desperate, and this was a fishing expedition.

Posted by: daddyknowsbest at August 10, 2022 07:39 PM (76vMe)

707 I can’t believe the amount of fucking morons in this country. It’s not up to Trump to release anything, it’s up to the FBI to release the reasons for the raid! The commies understood very well the reasons to infiltrate and indoctrinate the morons in the US. Now we are seeing what they have accomplished! 🤦🏻

Posted by: Shane at August 10, 2022 07:59 PM (mwbFg)

708 The misinformation on Twitter is legion, and what's funniest about the whole topic is that Twitter if famous for suspending and canceling accounts for supposed misinformation which is actually true information. So let me ask you simply this: If posting lies is okay and posting truth will get you banned, what else are you going to see on Twitter except misinformation?

Posted by: Jack at August 11, 2022 08:51 AM (FUvqE)

709 It probably took 9 hours to plant surveillance equipment all over the mansion. They had to keep everyone out of there for that and so they could plant whatever they wanted. Why else would they prevent anyone WATCHING what they were doing? I wonder if they confiscated the video from the cameras that were not turned off during the raid. Would be curious to see those if the videos are available.

Posted by: RickS at August 11, 2022 09:45 AM (sm0er)

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