Ric Grenell: I Told Trump He Had to Fire the Criminal Wray Two Years Ago

Former acting Director of National Intelligence Ric Grenell is warning that the FBI is facing a "real crisis" from partisan tampering with investigations, revealing he actually urged then-President Donald Trump to fire Director Chris Wray back in 2020 when such concerns first became obvious.
"I told President Trump we got to get rid of him," Grenell said Monday in an interview with Just the News on the John Solomon Reports podcast. "[Wray] was terrible. First of all, he didn't understand what was happening. He was so aloof to what was happening down below and had just a knee jerk reaction to everything just to protect the status quo."
Grenell made the comments just hours before Trump announced Monday the FBI raided his Mar-a-Lago home and office in Florida, cracking a safe and removing documents in an apparent probe into suspected missing classified documents.
Grenell, who also served as U.S. ambassador to Germany, said the reasons he urged Wray's dismissal two years ago were rooted in his inability to see politics ruining the storied law enforcement agency"
"He's a creature of the FBI," Grenell said. "And he views everything as a PR exercise. Don't criticize the FBI. Don't talk about any failures at the FBI because he loves the brand. And it was a brand exercise."
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Grenell described an episode in spring 2020 when he was acting DNI and was trying to declassify documents about FBI misconduct in the Russia collusion probe and its pursuit of former National Security Advisor Mike Flynn, and there "was a lot of pushback."
He said FBI leaders told him frontline agents adamantly didn't want the memos declassified and released to the public because they would reveal investigative sources and methods.
"I said I'd like to talk to these FBI agents who actually redacted this information," he recalled. "And oh, boy, they did not want me to. But I did. I pushed through, and because I had the position, I was able to do it. I said, 'You know look, I'm about to release this information. But I'm asking you to tell me. If this is really a source or a method, point it to me. What am I missing here?'

"Did you know, John, that the FBI rank and file agents who did that said to me, 'We agree with you. We didn't redact this. Our bosses did.' And it was so obvious to me that there was a political manipulation from up top."

When the FBI is reconfigured and split into multiple smaller agencies with more focused missions -- and the bureau loses its monolithic power -- the head of each of the new smaller agencies must come from outside the FBI culture and be skeptical of the old FBI -- preferably, antagonistic towards the old FBI -- and not "Company Men" like this soft chubby smug Criminal Wray.

Obviously, we will also need to move the DOJ to a red state and red district, so that federal prosecutions will be made up of red juries. There is absolutely no law stating that the working offices of the DOJ must be located in Washington, DC. There has to be some staff there, I guess, because the AG is part of the president's cabinet. (But does even that require him to be in DC?)

But all DOJ operations should be removed to, I don't know.

Pensacola, maybe.

I don't even know-- what's a city with 100,000 or more people that leans red?

We need a Federal Internal Affairs department.

Posted by: garrett

Posted by: Ace at 04:38 PM

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Posted by: She Hobbit at August 09, 2022 04:38 PM (ftFVW)

2 This is easy for Grenell to say. On the other hand, it is pretty obvious- even then.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 09, 2022 04:38 PM (dNqv+)

3 SheHobbit. Grats. My brain is mush at the moment.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 09, 2022 04:39 PM (dNqv+)

4 Fire Them ALL!

Posted by: rd at August 09, 2022 04:39 PM (Z32m1)

5 You can tell Christopher Wray likes it up the yam chute from the way he wears his hair.

Fire all They Asses.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 09, 2022 04:39 PM (2CExO)

6
We should go up to Fey Wray's summer home in Saranac Lake or wherever and peacefully protest.

Mostly peacefully.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 09, 2022 04:39 PM (x0n13)

7 Need more checks and balances than that! But a good start.

Posted by: Iris at August 09, 2022 04:39 PM (NaH5I)

8 SheHobbit. Grats. My brain is mush at the moment.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Purely luck. And I didn't attempt a tie to the content. Honestly, you were robbed.

Posted by: She Hobbit at August 09, 2022 04:39 PM (ftFVW)

9 Burn the whole thing. Smash the buildings. Sow the grounds with salt. *Then* nuke it from orbit.

Posted by: Brewingfrog at August 09, 2022 04:39 PM (ee4fS)

10 Exactly right. My preference would be to raze it and plow it under, but breaking it into pieces runs a good second.

Posted by: spongeworthy at August 09, 2022 04:39 PM (vZqvS)

11 7 Need more checks and balances than that! But a good start.
Posted by: Iris at August 09, 2022 04:39 PM (NaH5I)

"Look Fat, Jack Palance has enough chicks."

- - Sponge-Brain Shits-Pants

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 09, 2022 04:40 PM (x0n13)

12 So close

Posted by: Blutarski at August 09, 2022 04:40 PM (iLvV2)

13 Thank you Ace

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 09, 2022 04:40 PM (svdGq)

14 We need a Federal Internal Affairs department.

And a Flat Tax.

... so we can turn those 80k new IRS Agents around and aim them at the Federal Government and its employees.

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2022 04:40 PM (rDJo+)

15 Crisis.

We'll be hearing that word a lot.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 09, 2022 04:40 PM (BFigT)

16 Now he is one I want to see held for a Coup d'etat

Posted by: Skip at August 09, 2022 04:41 PM (k8B25)

17 Grenell, who also served as U.S. ambassador to Germany, said the reasons he urged Wray's dismissal two years ago were rooted in his inability to see politics ruining the storied law enforcement agency"
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That's for more charitable than I feel like being. "Inability to see" it? Bullshit. Definitely, certainly. 100% pure, USDA choice-grade bullshit. It ain't institutional blindness or ignorance.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 09, 2022 04:41 PM (WWh8n)

18 I don't even know-- what's a city with 100,000 or more people that leans red?

Mt. Kilauea. VERY red . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 09, 2022 04:41 PM (x0n13)

19 Actually Don't Fire Them.

Reassign The FBI Executives to third world embassies, like Zimbabwe and every other sub saharan shithole country.

Posted by: rd at August 09, 2022 04:41 PM (Z32m1)

20 "He's a creature of the FBI," Grenell said. "And he views everything as a PR exercise. Don't criticize the FBI. Don't talk about any failures at the FBI because he loves the brand. And it was a brand exercise."

That is consistent with how miserable, shamed, and unhappy he looked while Cruz was grilling him.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 04:41 PM (Ivdso)

21 But all DOJ operations should be removed to, I don't know.

the surface of the sun?

Posted by: brak at August 09, 2022 04:41 PM (j5Tg0)

22 "Did you know, John, that the FBI rank and file agents who did that said to me, 'We agree with you. We didn't redact this. Our bosses did.' And it was so obvious to me that there was a political manipulation from up top."
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Just a few bad apples at the top. That's a relief!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 09, 2022 04:41 PM (WWh8n)

23 >>>There has to be some staff there, I guess, because the AG is part of the president's cabinet. (But does even that require him to be in DC?)

If only they had some sort of high-speed conveyance, reserved for just such official travel.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 09, 2022 04:41 PM (U3uv2)

24 You can tell Christopher Wray likes it up the yam chute from the way he wears his hair.

It would be salutary if his hair was set on fire.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 09, 2022 04:42 PM (eGTCV)

25 Grenell is right Wray should have been fired, but really off base about Wray, in general.

Wray needed to be fired because he is a partisan hack who encouraged the politicization of the FBI.

Or, he was bought off to ignore what was going on.

Though, I suppose "and" works, too.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 09, 2022 04:42 PM (5pTK/)

26 "He's a creature of the FBI," Grenell said. "And he views everything as a PR exercise. Don't criticize the FBI. Don't talk about any failures at the FBI because he loves the brand. And it was a brand exercise."

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I call bullshit.

ShainS' Law: "Never attribute to ignorance, stupidity, loyalty, and/or incompetence what can be ascribed to evil."

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 09, 2022 04:42 PM (sulas)

27 Woah.

Ace got Bold.

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2022 04:42 PM (rDJo+)

28 But all DOJ operations should be removed to, I don't know.

the surface of the sun?

Posted by: brak at August 09, 2022 04:41 PM (j5Tg0)

That's a terrible thing to say.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 09, 2022 04:42 PM (U3uv2)

29 19 Actually Don't Fire Them.

Reassign The FBI Executives to third world embassies, like Zimbabwe and every other sub saharan shithole country.
Posted by: rd at August 09, 2022 04:41 PM (Z32m1)

Benghazi. Mogadishu. Gaza.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 09, 2022 04:42 PM (x0n13)

30 "But all DOJ operations should be removed to, I don't know."

Nome, Alaska.

Posted by: Thrawn at August 09, 2022 04:43 PM (Rl7KJ)

31 First massive firings. Complete decapitation. Then split them up and move them

Posted by: FIB at August 09, 2022 04:43 PM (ZGlod)

32 Benghazi. Mogadishu. Gaza.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 09, 2022 04:42 PM (x0n13)

Malmo. Rotterdam. Paris.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 09, 2022 04:43 PM (6FeV1)

33 Trump sometimes listens to people who do not know what they are talking about so where do you draw the line?

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 09, 2022 04:43 PM (bVYXr)

34 Benghazi. Mogadishu. Gaza.

Unarmed.

Posted by: Bosk at August 09, 2022 04:43 PM (v4L7Y)

35 I think Wray is like Sessions in that he loves the institution, and the system, and how things are portrayed in Today's FBI so much that he just did not want to see and realize what was going on in his own office.

But it has gone on so long now right in front of him that I think he's comlicit now, and has been corrupted as well.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 04:43 PM (Ivdso)

36 28 But all DOJ operations should be removed to, I don't know.

the surface of the sun?

Posted by: brak at August 09, 2022 04:41 PM (j5Tg0)

What did the surface of the sun do to earn that fate? Other that irradiating the earth with cancer-causing and clothes-shedding rays...

Posted by: Thrawn at August 09, 2022 04:44 PM (Rl7KJ)

37 Benghazi. Mogadishu. Gaza.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 09, 2022 04:42 PM (x0n13)

Malmo. Rotterdam. Paris.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 09, 2022 04:43 PM (6FeV1)

The empty quarter

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 09, 2022 04:44 PM (S+j2h)

38 >>>I don't even know-- what's a city with 100,000 or more people that leans red?

Fresno

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 09, 2022 04:44 PM (xPl2J)

39 Interesting insight into Wray. A Brand manager.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 09, 2022 04:44 PM (gbzeC)

40 >>>Reassign The FBI Executives to third world embassies, like Zimbabwe and every other sub saharan shithole country.

we wouldn't want to fire them at first because you can only compel them to participate in non-criminal investigations (like IG investigations) if they're employees.

But they can be rubber-roomed during that period. Then fired.

And then they can get their precious pensions taken away.

Posted by: ace at August 09, 2022 04:44 PM (B3oWe)

41 From CryptoLawyer on twitter : The Magistrate Judge who recused himself from the pending Trump v Clinton lawsuit is the same magistrate who signed off on 45’ search warrant. You can’t make this up.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 09, 2022 04:44 PM (0ywMo)

42 Just a few bad apples at the top. That's a relief!

And confined to the Cincinnati office.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 09, 2022 04:44 PM (Xrfse)

43 Pretty soon, FBI guys are going to claim they work for the IRS, because it carries less stigma than admitting where they really work.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 09, 2022 04:44 PM (5pTK/)

44 >>Unarmed.

Just one day without this shit.

Is that too much to ask?

Posted by: Michele Fields at August 09, 2022 04:45 PM (rDJo+)

45 When the FBI is reconfigured and split into multiple smaller agencies with more focused missions -- and the bureau loses its monolithic power -- the head of each of the new smaller agencies must come from outside the FBI culture and be skeptical of the old FBI -- preferably, antagonistic towards the old FBI -- and not "Company Men" like this soft chubby smug Criminal Wray.
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Socialism CAN work, so long as the right people are in charge and the wealth is properly redistributed.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at August 09, 2022 04:45 PM (R9HLX)

46 Whether you moved DOJ's Main Justice, the federal trials would still mostly be in DC in that district b/c that's where the White House, Capitol, Supreme Court, and executive offices are - aka, all the other fed gov people work there, and crimes are prosecuted where they are committed.

Better is to eliminate the DC district entirely, except for cases involving DC residents (aka local crimes). Put up all crimes committed by federal employees or employee-adjacents to a random draw for a court. And any crimes committed by tourists or non-DC residents to the same.

Posted by: Nova local at August 09, 2022 04:45 PM (exHjb)

47 You can tell Christopher Wray likes it up the yam chute from the way he wears his hair.

How you wear your hair is indicative of men enjoying anal sex-which I assume is what "up the yam chute" means (?) although I have never heard that expression before. He might by in the closet, but seriously why would anyone who isn't a RC clergyman need to be in the closet. Wray is married with two kids

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2022 04:45 PM (wvo9L)

48 I don't even know-- what's a city with 100,000 or more people that leans red?

Fresno
Posted by: Mark1971

OKC?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 09, 2022 04:45 PM (Am657)

49 Just a few bad apples at the top. That's a relief!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)

Don't make me laugh, ha.... ha.... ha. *scowl*

Posted by: She Hobbit at August 09, 2022 04:45 PM (ftFVW)

50 I'm thinking we need a new capital.

Posted by: Don, the Rebel without a Blog at August 09, 2022 04:45 PM (6fSVf)

51 From CryptoLawyer on twitter : The Magistrate Judge who recused himself from the pending Trump v Clinton lawsuit is the same magistrate who signed off on 45’ search warrant. You can’t make this up.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 09, 2022 04:44 PM (0ywMo)

lol

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 09, 2022 04:46 PM (U3uv2)

52 He recused himself on June 22 of this year.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 09, 2022 04:46 PM (0ywMo)

53 Then take on the IC scum

Posted by: FIB = KGB at August 09, 2022 04:46 PM (ZGlod)

54 Don’t disband the FBI. Decapitate the leadership by assigning them to different embassies far from Washington DC. Or decapitate by...

Replace the FBI. Reassign it. My suggestion is solving the 5,000 disappearances of Native American and Eskimo Women and Children every year. Assign every agent to live on an Indian Reservation. Move the FBI HQ to Tulsa OK or Fairbanks AK, far from DC. Stop any FBI hiring, and let it slowly die off in the next 20 years.

Posted by: rd at August 09, 2022 04:46 PM (Z32m1)

55 Let's spread the wealth around.

DOJ in Jefferson City, MO
DOE in Cheyenne, WY
etc,

Posted by: Dick and Samantha Steven's nosy neighbor, Gladys at August 09, 2022 04:46 PM (gtKRu)

56 Ric Grenell sounds like he's defending an ex-lover.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at August 09, 2022 04:46 PM (sI15f)

57 Has CRT passed? I hadn't noticed.

Posted by: Regular joe at August 09, 2022 04:46 PM (nnp+f)

58 We need a new IG for the DOJ. I propose Tomas Torquemada. He'd be a good guy for the job. Of course, our old buddy, Pinochet, would be ideal. Maybe a team approach would be worth trying. Are these guys available, even in zombie form?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 09, 2022 04:46 PM (lFE5c)

59 I'm not sure where I stand with Ric Grennell.

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at August 09, 2022 04:46 PM (53oGX)

60 There is absolutely no law stating that the working offices of the DOJ must be located in Washington, DC.

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Or even in-country. Give them a choice between Greenland and Iceland ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 09, 2022 04:46 PM (sulas)

61 Also better - get rid of almost all DOJ prosecutorial powers. If the states or counties prosecute those crimes, let them. Eliminate effective double jeopardy (which isn't technically - but is in reality)...

Posted by: Nova local at August 09, 2022 04:46 PM (exHjb)

62 But, but, but, what about all those good ole ham-n-eggers that work there? You know, those salt of the earth good guys who are just flabbergasted by the skullduggery being played out by their leadership?

Sean Hannity hardest hit. Fuck hose people in general and Hannity in particular.

Decommission the FBI and fire everyone there. They are an existential threat to America.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 09, 2022 04:46 PM (9r09r)

63 >>I don't even know-- what's a city with 100,000 or more people that leans red?

Amarillo Texas, population 200,000.

Posted by: huerfano at August 09, 2022 04:46 PM (dTFZY)

64 How you wear your hair is indicative of men enjoying anal sex-which I assume is what "up the yam chute" means (?) although I have never heard that expression before. He might by in the closet, but seriously why would anyone who isn't a RC clergyman need to be in the closet. Wray is married with two kids
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2022 04:45 PM (wvo9L)

So was Bruce Jenner

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 09, 2022 04:46 PM (S+j2h)

65 As I said in another thread, the FBI needs to be disbanded and the only question former FBI guys should be allowed to ask is, "Want fries with that?"

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 09, 2022 04:46 PM (5pTK/)

66 ShainS' Law: "Never attribute to ignorance, stupidity, loyalty, and/or incompetence what can be ascribed to evil."
Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 09, 2022 04:42 PM (sulas)

This is a good law to have. There are a lot of 'and's that can be thrown in there.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 09, 2022 04:46 PM (dNqv+)

67 What we need is a well oiled Guillotine.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Summer of Our Discontent n at August 09, 2022 04:46 PM (FVME7)

68 Whats with the 100,000 people requirement? Send it to podunk Arkansas. Better yet, dissolve the whole fucking mess, it ain't salvageable.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 09, 2022 04:46 PM (QSjkU)

69 50 I'm thinking we need a new capital.
Posted by: Don, the Rebel without a Blog at August 09, 2022 04:45 PM (6fSVf)

I'm thinking DC should be nuked

Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2022 04:46 PM (bs+z0)

70 I never thought I'd see this country go full Soviet. When do the gulags start. There is no question mark on that sentence for a reason.

Posted by: Colonel Travis at August 09, 2022 04:47 PM (Cgo1x)

71 I real good step would be to gut the current FBI promotion plan that was put in place by Mueller that rewards politics and loyalty to FBI leadership over competence.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2022 04:47 PM (ZLI7S)

72 59 I'm not sure where I stand with Ric Grennell.
Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at August 09, 2022 04:46 PM (53oGX)

I wouldn't stand with him behind you.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 09, 2022 04:47 PM (UuD2k)

73 If you own TSM it's going to zero when China invades Taiwan.

Might want to dump it.

Posted by: I Mean at August 09, 2022 04:47 PM (9FBGz)

74 Which feralgov agencies are actually listed in the Constitution?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 09, 2022 04:47 PM (llON8)

75 59 I'm not sure where I stand with Ric Grennell.
Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at August 09, 2022 04:46 PM (53oGX)

I get a gut... opportunist vibe. I dunno.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 09, 2022 04:47 PM (dNqv+)

76 48 I don't even know-- what's a city with 100,000 or more people that leans red?

Fresno
Posted by: Mark1971

OKC?
Posted by: rickb223 at August 09, 2022 04:45 PM (Am657)

Eh, maybe skip the large Federal building in OKC.. just a suggestion.

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at August 09, 2022 04:47 PM (53oGX)

77 Five largest cities with GOP mayors: Jacksonville, Fort Worth, Oklahoma City, Fresno, Mesa

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 09, 2022 04:47 PM (xPl2J)

78 >>Which feralgov agencies are actually listed in the Constitution?

The Post Office.

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2022 04:48 PM (rDJo+)

79 Jacksonville

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 09, 2022 04:48 PM (W8LBk)

80 Interesting insight into Wray. A Brand manager.
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Every local or state cop I ever knew would say the same thing about the feebs. They are a PR agency with guns. They give great press conferences. That's what they do well. They leak stories to the media. The vaunted crime lab, not so vaunted. (summoning ATC) The FBI pays hollywood money to put them in fictional stories in a good light. It is a best, superfluous, and at worst the stasi.

Posted by: If you ever met one in real life, just walk away, don't even say bye at August 09, 2022 04:48 PM (DTXjw)

81 Trump always listened to the wrong people.

I really like Trump just outsourced the actual governing part to his worthless son in law Jared Kushner and just wanted to go to rallies and enjoy the celebrity part of being a President.

Posted by: Blago at August 09, 2022 04:48 PM (vdpvO)

82 Lets put the Bureau of Land Management in Nevada, close to the Bundy ranch. Put it in a valley with some high ground around it, for the local snipers.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 09, 2022 04:48 PM (lFE5c)

83 So was Bruce Jenner
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 09, 2022 04:46 PM (S+j2h)

I believe Bruce jenner might still be having sex with women, but I don't follow his life. I'm just saying I don't know how that he does his hair indicates his sexual preference.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2022 04:48 PM (wvo9L)

84 We need a Federal Internal Affairs department.
Posted by: garrett
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We need a lot more. Defund and close *all* current federal LE and IC agencies and departments within agencies. 100% of them. Gone. Goodbye. The FBI and the Secret Service and Marshals, yes, but also every enforcement arm of every agency. Then, replace the whole thing with six new agencies:
1. Federal law enforcement. Interstate crime *only* with no adjuncts
2. Presidential protection, no other mandate
3. Foreign intelligence (wide mandate, lots of rope)
4. Military intelligence (wide mandate, military-only, no exceptions)
5. Domestic intelligence (narrow mandate, short leash, lots of process control)
6. Internal affairs that police *all* of the other five.

The last should be staffed with state and local LE and at least 60% non-government. No cross-pollination between the other five and the new IA agency. Pay all agents modest base wages and then a bounty-based bonus scheme. The more they identify and punish, the more they get paid. Yes, this may incentivize aggressive and even punitive behavior - but the only victims will be other government agents.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 09, 2022 04:48 PM (WWh8n)

85 Move them to Devil's Island.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 09, 2022 04:49 PM (VwHCD)

86 Fort Worth has a (R) mayor

Posted by: Colonel Travis at August 09, 2022 04:49 PM (Cgo1x)

87 Pennsacola? How about Pine Ridge SD?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 09, 2022 04:49 PM (R8uWY)

88 I find certain kinds of hairstyles to be incredibly obnoxious and, in the future regrettable: the doucheknot faux samurai look. The fake Viking shaved sides of the head look. The moussed up Trey Gowdy cut. That kind of stuff just makes me want to smack them upside the head.

But I dunno if any of them look especially fruity as a result.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 04:49 PM (Ivdso)

89 Hey Ace, move them to Huntsville, AL, it's not like they don't already have a strong presence here already but for damn sure, get them the hell out of Washington, DC now.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at August 09, 2022 04:49 PM (qZdIZ)

90 Ham and eggs on line 2 for Mr. Hannity.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 09, 2022 04:49 PM (W8LBk)

91 Meant how Wray does his hair.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2022 04:49 PM (wvo9L)

92 Is there a single good, upstanding FBI agent?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 09, 2022 04:49 PM (R8uWY)

93 Don’t disband the FBI. Decapitate the leadership by assigning them to different embassies far from Washington DC. Or decapitate by...

Replace the FBI. Reassign it. My suggestion is solving the 5,000 disappearances of Native American and Eskimo Women and Children every year. Assign every agent to live on an Indian Reservation. Move the FBI HQ to Tulsa OK or Fairbanks AK, far from DC. Stop any FBI hiring, and let it slowly die off in the next 20 years.

Posted by: rd at August 09, 2022 04:46 PM (Z32m1)

Obliterate it. What do they really do other than plan and foil their own domestic terror ops, pin them on political enemies, and ignore legit threats? Farm out any divisions doing legit work to particular states. There need not be any institutional momentum here.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 09, 2022 04:49 PM (U3uv2)

94 >>I really like Trump just outsourced the actual governing part to his worthless son in law Jared Kushner and just wanted to go to rallies and enjoy the celebrity part of being a President.

Then we should elect Kushner cause he did a hell of a job.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2022 04:49 PM (ZLI7S)

95 I really like Trump just outsourced the actual governing part to his worthless son in law Jared Kushner and just wanted to go to rallies and enjoy the celebrity part of being a President.
Posted by: Blago at August 09, 2022 04:48 PM (vdpvO)

Trump did a hellova lot more than that. You sell the man short by about 100,000 miles.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 09, 2022 04:49 PM (QSjkU)

96 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 04:49 PM (Ivdso)

LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2022 04:50 PM (wvo9L)

97 I believe Bruce jenner might still be having sex with women, but I don't follow his life. I'm just saying I don't know how that he does his hair indicates his sexual preference.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2022 04:48 PM (wvo9L)

I think he has 3 0r 4 Children and was married twice

Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2022 04:50 PM (bs+z0)

98 This all reminds me of that scene in Goodfellas when De Niro finds out that Pesci has been whacked. Guy on the phone just shrugs it off with, "Well, you know what I mean. He's gone, and we couldn't do nothing about it."

Those poor ham-and-eggers. Country is gone and they couldn't do nothing about it.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at August 09, 2022 04:50 PM (KbCG3)

99 @17

>>It ain't institutional blindness or ignorance.

Wray is simply a company man/button man and he ain't our button man.

The Federal Government is the Mob, it's controlled by the Five Families and other syndicates from around the globe.

It's got protection rackets, goon squads, hit squads, it's got money laundering rackets, ponzi schemes, enemies lists, the whole nine yards.

The whole edifice of what we we think or thought the government is outmoded.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 09, 2022 04:50 PM (t9WRg)

100 I'm not sure where I stand with Ric Grennell.

I question his situational awareness. After all, someone stole the 'k' from the end of his first name.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 09, 2022 04:50 PM (Xrfse)

101 I'd move the EPA to Butte, Montana. Right nest to that giant hole filled with toxic mine waste.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 09, 2022 04:50 PM (Y5qcH)

102 Yes, break it up.

Posted by: runner at August 09, 2022 04:50 PM (AVI/t)

103 In the age of Zoom and work from home why even have a head office?

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 09, 2022 04:50 PM (W8LBk)

104 Socialism CAN work, so long as the right people are in charge and the wealth is properly redistributed.

And that can only happen when you kill enough people.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at August 09, 2022 04:50 PM (Bd6X8)

105 But we haven't had a Republic since the end of the Civil War. That's not "fighting it, again" for those of you that always scream shut up at the topic. It's just fact.

Yeah you're right. One of the unfortunate consequences of the Civil War was an almost total destruction of state sovereignty and the limitations of federal government.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 04:50 PM (Ivdso)

106 They are going to have to move some federal law enforcement offices to a Reddish area, its a brilliant idea.
Unfortunately it will be closed the second there's Dem in the WH.

Posted by: Blago at August 09, 2022 04:51 PM (vdpvO)

107 I don't even know-- what's a city with 100,000 or more people that leans red?

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Moscow. Putin's Moscow.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 09, 2022 04:51 PM (sulas)

108 I don't even know-- what's a city with 100,000 or more people that leans red?
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I don't think that exists. Once a community goes past 50K or so, it seems to slide inevitably into blue territory.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 09, 2022 04:51 PM (YIVH2)

109 I really like Trump just outsourced the actual governing part to his worthless son in law Jared Kushner and just wanted to go to rallies and enjoy the celebrity part of being a President.

Posted by: Blago at August 09, 2022 04:48 PM (vdpvO)

The jared thing was stooopid, but as far as the rallies go, trump probably got more done as president in the few hours before a rally than toonces and the cadaver did in 6 months.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 09, 2022 04:51 PM (VwHCD)

110 The Junta wants to send another billion dollars to Ukraine. Instead, I propose we send the Biden Junta. Let's get Top. Men. there to stop the Russian aggression.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 09, 2022 04:51 PM (lFE5c)

111 jfc, garrett. The blog has AIDSpox noa.

Posted by: Baby Talk Jackson at August 09, 2022 04:51 PM (CDM+5)

112 102 Is there a single good, upstanding FBI agent?

Have any quit in protest ? To ask is to answer.
Posted by: Whitesnake at August 09, 2022 04:50 PM (/cCOr)
Somebody over there is leaking damaging shit. That is better than resigning.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 09, 2022 04:52 PM (QSjkU)

113 Fairbanks would be a great place for the DOJ and FBI. And all the agencies now that I think about it.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 09, 2022 04:52 PM (W8LBk)

114 And then they can get their precious pensions taken away.
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Ha ha ha ha ha

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

O that's a good one.

Posted by: Andrew McCabe at August 09, 2022 04:52 PM (9Bl8d)

115 The way Ric describes Wray rings very very true and is a long-standing, disastrous trend in the Beltway. This idiotic "brand loyalty" nonsense, which is the nothing more than unserious, mediocre, unqualified people being put in positions of responsibility who have no idea what their real responsibilities are. I saw it at various levels years ago.

I've said here before, Wray's press event following the first, inverse-bombshell Horowitz IG report was one of the most amazing and outrageous spectacles of recent times (which is saying something). Morale is great! Recruitment is fine! Tons of applications for our intern program! Unbelievable.

Of course it fairly quickly became clear he was an unserious non-entity, like most Beltway bigs these days, just a seat-warming drone who is a cultural product of the collapsed or mediocre institution he know heads.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 09, 2022 04:52 PM (OTzUX)

116 101 I'm not sure where I stand with Ric Grennell.

I question his situational awareness. After all, someone stole the 'k' from the end of his first name.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 09, 2022 04:50 PM (Xrfse)

Hah! My uncle's first name on his birth certificate was 'Ricky'. His first wife had him change it to Richard.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 09, 2022 04:52 PM (dNqv+)

117 Baldilocks:

The Raid: Difference Between Trump and Clinton
https://tinyurl.com/55v933md

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 09, 2022 04:53 PM (v896E)

118 14 We need a Federal Internal Affairs department

We need to weaponize the Inspectors General against the bureaucrats. Make the IGs a cabinet-level department. Mandate IG employees have no employment in other federal departments before or after IG service. Require the IG department to have headquarters at least 100 miles outside of DC. Give them full power to subpoena and prosecute federal employees and contractors; limit their prosecution of non-employees to crimes involving feds like bribery.

And make all promotion and compensation decisions solely based on obtaining convictions of federal employees.

Posted by: ChickenBoy at August 09, 2022 04:53 PM (GyORa)

119 We need a Federal Internal Affairs department.
Posted by: garrett

F that. I want a Federal Internal Judge Dredd.

Posted by: West at August 09, 2022 04:53 PM (QY+6a)

120 Heh, I remember in the 70's and 80's when San Diego was pretty much a Republican stronghold. It was solid red. But, it was invaded much the same way Californians are now invading neighboring states.

Some kind folks bring beer to a picnic. Californians bring the plague.

Posted by: Orson at August 09, 2022 04:53 PM (Q3Zdm)

121 Is there a single good, upstanding FBI agent?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 09, 2022 04:49 PM (R8uWY)
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I have asked on numerous occasions - simply as a hypothetical, because the answer is obvious - where the whistle-blowers are. If all those ham-and-egg men are good and righteous, but it's just that their *bosses* are corrupt and sinister, then where are the whistle-blowers disclosing that? If they're good and righteous, they'd raise the alarm, yes? These guys Grennel claims to have interviewed, at least one of them would have mentioned it, right?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 09, 2022 04:53 PM (WWh8n)

122 Socialism CAN work, so long as the right people are in charge and the wealth is properly redistributed.

It works in the same setting and circumstances every system can work in: honest, noble, and capable leadership over a small group of ethical, good people whom share the same goals and interests.

Because such a group needs almost no leadership or government to begin with, so the style is irrelevant.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 04:53 PM (Ivdso)

123 I'd move the EPA to Butte, Montana. Right nest to that giant hole filled with toxic mine waste.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 09, 2022 04:50 PM (Y5qcH)
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The new Gucci Gulch! And, a whole new clientele for those Indian bars all around the mine.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 09, 2022 04:53 PM (lFE5c)

124 If you're worried about shipping commies into sound societies, then accept they're all enemies. So ship them to San Francisco. I understand office space there has really dropped in cost. And they'll enjoy wading through shit 'n' needles to get to work.

Posted by: Eeyore at August 09, 2022 04:54 PM (TgBWG)

125 There are two FBI labs/programs worth saving: CODIS and VICAP. As for the rest, burn it to the ground along with every agent who have ever served there. They all are guilty.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 09, 2022 04:54 PM (nMx88)

126 I can see why Trump didn't fire Wray... Look what happened to him when he fired Comey .. Also wasn't he in the midst of one of his impeachments ?

Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2022 04:54 PM (bs+z0)

127 There is no need for the FBI.

We have the CIA for spying.

We have state and local LE for prosecution.

We have secret service for protection.

We have the military for defense, both foreign and domestic.

DOJ can work with local law enforcement if there are ever state-to-state or truly federal crimes. They can work with other departments if there are civil actions.

The country worked a long time with that set up. It can work again.

Posted by: Nova local at August 09, 2022 04:54 PM (exHjb)

128 "But all DOJ operations should be removed to, I don't know."

McMurdo Station. They can raid each other's iceholes.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 09, 2022 04:54 PM (PpiqM)

129 Fairbanks would be a great place for the DOJ and FBI. And all the agencies now that I think about it.

I'm kinda partial to Pt Barrow.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at August 09, 2022 04:54 PM (Bd6X8)

130 >>F that. I want a Federal Internal Judge Dredd.

Oh, they should get to play by some really Medieval Rules, no doubt.

Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2022 04:54 PM (rDJo+)

131 Is there a single good, upstanding FBI agent?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 09, 2022 04:49 PM (R8uWY)
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I know one. He took early retirement last year.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 09, 2022 04:54 PM (lFE5c)

132 Chris Wray, short for Chrisminal Wray.

Posted by: Todd Rundgren at August 09, 2022 04:54 PM (OaZlZ)

133 Bingo.

https://tinyurl.com/3z8w7f8a

Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2022 04:54 PM (ZLI7S)

134
Different proposal: whatever new nation-states emerge from the shattered US federal republic can figure out their own law enforcement structures as they see fit, severally.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 09, 2022 04:54 PM (IXpV7)

135
Tumbrels and pikes

Enough of this shit

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 09, 2022 04:54 PM (9qeXR)

136 And killing FBI means the feds don't control the investigation and prosecution of people in the SAME DAMN APPROVAL CHAIN (since DOJ is in charge of FBI). Separation of the power is key...

Posted by: Nova local at August 09, 2022 04:55 PM (exHjb)

137 https://www.powerlineblog.com/most transparent lie of the day

Tweet from Johnathan Martin
Senior White House officials found out about the FBI 's Mar-A-Lago raid on Twitter, had no notice, per source familiar "

Or Sundowner's Puppeteers are running the country, take your pick

Posted by: Skip at August 09, 2022 04:55 PM (k8B25)

138 Heh, I remember in the 70's and 80's when San Diego was pretty much a Republican stronghold. It was solid red. But, it was invaded much the same way Californians are now invading neighboring states.

——

You’re welcome senor.
-3M illegals living in SoCal

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 09, 2022 04:55 PM (W8LBk)

139 If 100 honest agents resigned in protest do you think the press would report on it? Like the protests in the Netherlands?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 09, 2022 04:55 PM (QSjkU)

140 Senior White House officials found out about the FBI 's Mar-A-Lago raid on Twitter, had no notice, per source familiar "

Liars

Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2022 04:55 PM (bs+z0)

141 Fairbanks would be a great place for the DOJ and FBI. And all the agencies now that I think about it.

I'm kinda partial to Pt Barrow.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at August 09, 2022 04:54 PM (Bd6X

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Let's give them one phone. It'll be outside, of course, and it will be an old fashioned pay phone. Give those bastards a new respect for a quarter.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 09, 2022 04:55 PM (lFE5c)

142 Another thing for the new replacement federal LE agency:
1. Make a list of all functions performed by every existing agency.
2. Prioritize the list and identify the top 50 true interstate crime functions, in aggregate, across all of them.
3. Those 50 are handled by the new agency
4. The rest is dropped.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 09, 2022 04:56 PM (WWh8n)

143 ++++
That's for more charitable than I feel like being. "Inability to see" it? Bullshit. Definitely, certainly. 100% pure, USDA choice-grade bullshit. It ain't institutional blindness or ignorance.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 09, 2022 04:41 PM (WWh8n)
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They gave Messalina the option to commit suicide and be buried with honor or they would lop her head off and put it on a pike. iirc she didn't have the courage to commit suicide.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 09, 2022 04:56 PM (WzJXd)

144 I don't even know-- what's a city with 100,000 or more people that leans red?
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I don't think that exists. Once a community goes past 50K or so, it seems to slide inevitably into blue territory.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 09, 2022 04:51 PM (YIVH2)

Billings, Montana. At least when I lived there. My mom is still there, and it seems to be somewhat red, but then I don't follow their politics. Loveland and Greeley are near the 100k mark, and are sort of normal, at least compared to Fort Collins.

But yeah, I'd say at a certain point, the bigger the city, the dumber the gubmint.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, I think I have a skeleton inside me at August 09, 2022 04:56 PM (xPJvm)

145 Tyler TX. 100k people, its in the reddest (r+50) district in Texas.

Posted by: redchief at August 09, 2022 04:56 PM (LU/A2)

146
If 100 honest agents resigned in protest do you think the press would report on it? Like the protests in the Netherlands?
Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 09, 2022 04:55 PM (QSjkU)

If 100 honest agents existed, it would be the scoop of the century. Like finding Atlantis, or somesuch.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 09, 2022 04:56 PM (IXpV7)

147 The FBI was started by FDR's AG Charles Bonaparte. (Napoleon's grand nephew). Some president needs to shut the whole thing down with an EO.

Posted by: Valiant at August 09, 2022 04:56 PM (cy2xC)

148 Good take by Baldilocks, as usual. I think the fallout from this is really going to damage the Democrats. I cannot even guess what they were thinking unless it was sheer panicked desperation hoping they'd find a smoking gun or like, Jimmy Hoffa's bones or something.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 04:56 PM (Ivdso)

149 You can tell Christopher Wray likes it up the yam chute from the way he wears his hair.

How you wear your hair is indicative of men enjoying anal sex-which I assume is what "up the yam chute" means (?) although I have never heard that expression before. He might by in the closet, but seriously why would anyone who isn't a RC clergyman need to be in the closet. Wray is married with two kids
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2022 04:45 PM (wvo9L)

Maybe he is a Bisexual? And a bottom? Maybe he does like it up the yam chute?

Maybe closed minded sexually repressed people should not assume people's sexual preferences? /jk

Posted by: rd at August 09, 2022 04:56 PM (Z32m1)

150 136 This absolutely smell of desperation not to lose or lose their heads

Posted by: Skip at August 09, 2022 04:56 PM (k8B25)

151 Obviously in hindsight and also then in foresight Grenell was correct, however there were just a few big things going on in spring of 2020 not to mention the immediate calls for obstruction and for another impeachment by firing Wray. And a presidential campaign. Trump probably figured Jan of 2021 would be a better time, but nope, stolen election.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 09, 2022 04:56 PM (8GBH4)

152 >>> 137
Different proposal: whatever new nation-states emerge from the shattered US federal republic can figure out their own law enforcement structures as they see fit, severally.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 09, 2022 04:54 PM (IXpV7)

Seconded.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 09, 2022 04:57 PM (llON8)

153 "But all DOJ operations should be removed to, I don't know."

McMurdo Station. They can raid each other's iceholes.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 09, 2022 04:54 PM (PpiqM)

Lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 09, 2022 04:57 PM (VwHCD)

154 But all DOJ operations should be removed to, I don't know.

The Mariana Trench is roomie.

Posted by: Puddleglum is concerned at August 09, 2022 04:57 PM (sAmhv)

155 They are going to have to move some federal law enforcement offices to a Reddish area, its a brilliant idea.
Unfortunately it will be closed the second there's Dem in the WH.

Posted by: Blago at August 09, 2022 04:51 PM (vdpvO)

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[In best, lame ZOD voice:]

"All collectivist political parties, from Democrat to Communist, will immediately be banned as antithetical to the U.S. Constitution -- and any such affiliation be treated as a capital offense followed by swift public execution.

As I command ... make it so, Donaldus Maximus!"

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 09, 2022 04:58 PM (sulas)

156 They gave Messalina the option to commit suicide and be buried with honor or they would lop her head off and put it on a pike. iirc she didn't have the courage to commit suicide.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 09, 2022 04:56 PM (WzJXd)

Correct. The moron married another dude- while still married to Claudius- in a lavish ceremony with guests. Even Claudius could not overlook that.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 09, 2022 04:58 PM (dNqv+)

157 PS... Huntsville is the largest city in Alabama and the most conservative.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at August 09, 2022 04:58 PM (qZdIZ)

158 As cities get bigger the govt gets bigger too. Which attracts more leftists to work in govt which then create leftist policies which attract more leftists which increases the population which increase the govt. rinse and repeat forever.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 09, 2022 04:58 PM (W8LBk)

159 Senior White House officials found out about the FBI 's Mar-A-Lago raid on Twitter, had no notice, per source familiar

Horse. Shit.

They are trying to distance Biden from this but if the White House staff knew nothing about this raid in advance, they're either unspeakably incompetent, or deliberately left out of the loop.

This isn't a raid on some lunatic bomber's shack in the forest, its not a counterfeit money operation being taken down. Its a raid on the former president of the united states.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 04:58 PM (Ivdso)

160 I'm not sure where I stand with Ric Grennell.
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Over to the side, slightly to the back.

Posted by: Axeman at August 09, 2022 04:59 PM (OaZlZ)

161 Senior White House officials found out about the FBI 's Mar-A-Lago raid on Twitter, had no notice, per source familiar "

Liars
Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2022 04:55 PM (bs+z0)
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Yeah. Bullshit.

by the way, the Junta issued a group photo of the Biden cabinet talking over the assault on Trumps home.

https://tinyurl.com/3ez5wtsn

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 09, 2022 04:59 PM (lFE5c)

162 I'd move the EPA

I'd eliminate the EPA.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 09, 2022 04:59 PM (8GBH4)

163 Once the FBI is closed, agents could be given the option to be border patrol at whatever the border patrol pay is (since it would be an effective RIF). 2 birds, 1 stone. And they are actually mostly trained to do it...

Posted by: Nova local at August 09, 2022 04:59 PM (exHjb)

164 Move them to Devil's Island.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 09, 2022 04:49 PM (VwHCD)

And have them screw up the Arien launches? No way, man

Posted by: Kindltot at August 09, 2022 04:59 PM (xhaym)

165 I say Flint, MI. Or Detroit... Set them up in the old Packard plant.

Posted by: weew at August 09, 2022 05:00 PM (+m+uH)

166 This absolutely smell of desperation not to lose or lose their heads

One gets the sense that there's tremendous pressure to produce something that damages Trump at all costs. But from whom? Donors? China?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 05:00 PM (Ivdso)

167 Once the FBI is closed, agents could be given the option to be border patrol

First you need a Border

Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2022 05:00 PM (bs+z0)

168 >>> 166 I'd move the EPA

I'd eliminate the EPA.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 09, 2022 04:59 PM (8GBH4)

I think we passed "move this or that unConstitutional agency" about 5 years ago.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 09, 2022 05:00 PM (llON8)

169 Socialism CAN work, so long as the right people are in charge and the wealth is properly redistributed.
*
And that can only happen when you kill enough people.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at August 09, 2022

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I forget where I read this, maybe here. Socialism, which is supposed to make everyone equal in outcome, does not agree with human nature. Someone has to decide on how to "redistribute" the wealth, as no one hands his property willingly to the state. Well, once you have a person or committee redistributing, they by default become more powerful than the rest of society -- thus contradicting the essential principle of socialism. QED.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 09, 2022 05:00 PM (txdEq)

170 Senior White House officials found out about the FBI 's Mar-A-Lago raid on Twitter, had no notice, per source familiar

Insulating Biden in case it all goes pear shaped.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com - Email for morons. at August 09, 2022 05:00 PM (Bd6X8)

171 PS... Huntsville is the largest city in Alabama and the most conservative.
Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at August 09, 2022 04:58 PM (qZdIZ)
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seems a shame to inject that pollution on such a nice town. But it does already have a nice Air and Space Museum, so the Washingtonians would feel more at home.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 09, 2022 05:00 PM (lFE5c)

172 @129
>>Also wasn't he in the midst of one of his impeachments?

Trump has not known a moment of peace since he rode down that Golden Escalator in 2015.

Just think about what it's like to be a marked and hunted man for seven f***ing years by these f***ing degenerate animals and criminals?

Donald Trump did not have to do what he did, he gave up a swell life to try to do something extraordinary, succeeded beyond even the wildest reckoning on many fronts and endured slings and arrows no President has had to suffer and is still, trying to move forward.

I respect the hell out of that man.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 09, 2022 05:01 PM (t9WRg)

173
One gets the sense that there's tremendous pressure to produce something that damages Trump at all costs. But from whom? Donors? China?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 05:00 PM (Ivdso)

It's the reflexive behavior of unaccountable tyrants. They have the power to do these things, so they do. It's not a choice; it's an instinct. No more to it than that.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 09, 2022 05:01 PM (IXpV7)

174 When Trump is reelected, he should start his term by dissolving as many 3 letter agencies as possible.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 09, 2022 05:01 PM (QSjkU)

175 Senior White House officials found out about the FBI 's Mar-A-Lago raid on Twitter, had no notice, per source familiar

Horse. Shit.

They are trying to distance Biden from this but if the White House staff knew nothing about this raid in advance, they're either unspeakably incompetent, or deliberately left out of the loop.

This isn't a raid on some lunatic bomber's shack in the forest, its not a counterfeit money operation being taken down. Its a raid on the former president of the united states.
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It blew up in their faces. And, TRUE TO FORM, they claim they didn't know nuthin

Posted by: Three stooges administration at August 09, 2022 05:01 PM (lp76K)

176 These people aren’t socialists. They’re not even ideologues. They are criminals pure and simple.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 09, 2022 05:01 PM (W8LBk)

177 Insulating Biden in case it all goes pear shaped.
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which it has.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 09, 2022 05:01 PM (lFE5c)

178 This absolutely smell of desperation not to lose or lose their heads
Posted by: Skip at August 09, 2022 04:56 PM (k8B25)

I like to think that they're just trying to keep him off the ballot, because the only two horses in their stables are Dildo, and Dildette.

Posted by: Sticky Wicket at August 09, 2022 05:01 PM (CCf67)

179 PS... Huntsville is the largest city in Alabama and the most conservative.
Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at August 09, 2022

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Larger than Birmingham?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 09, 2022 05:01 PM (txdEq)

180 I want to see the ham and eggers who conducted these raids hauled in front of congress as well. I was just following orders won't cut it. They know what they're doing is wrong.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 09, 2022 05:02 PM (u73oe)

181 Socialism/Communism always works out as a technocratic oligarchy- it just replaces the normal 'nobles' with the Nomenklatura.

It is just a way for technocrats to live out their feudal fantasies.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 09, 2022 05:02 PM (dNqv+)

182 Once the FBI is closed, agents could be given the option to be border patrol at whatever the border patrol pay is (since it would be an effective RIF). 2 birds, 1 stone. And they are actually mostly trained to do it...
Posted by: Nova local at August 09, 2022 04:59 PM (exHjb)
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Hmmm. 35,000 FBI employees, give or take. The border is about 2,000 miles long. They could assign 18 FBI tools to each mile of the border and run a manual, human-powered dragnet with existing BP staff to run herd on them and make them work...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 09, 2022 05:02 PM (WWh8n)

183 Wray is McConnell's fault.. He told Trump who he could have and shot down any other candidates that Trump floated

Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2022 05:02 PM (bs+z0)

184 You know who hates the FBI most? Criminals. And those who support and view them as political saviors.

Posted by: Sid at August 09, 2022 05:02 PM (mNSSt)

185 55 Let's spread the wealth around.

DOJ in Jefferson City, MO
DOE in Cheyenne, WY
etc,
Posted by: Dick and Samantha Steven's nosy neighbor, Gladys at August 09, 2022 04:46 PM (gtKRu)

I think this could work. Then Cheyenne would always have plenty of snakes for the Frontier Days Rattle Snake Roundup.

Posted by: Just Lily at August 09, 2022 05:03 PM (RLLZj)

186 I'm not saying Trump didn't make a number of mistakes, but for someone so ineffective at fighting the swamp, they sure seem to have a hard-on for him.

You'd think they'd roll out the red carpet since he gives them such an easy time of it.

Posted by: ... at August 09, 2022 05:03 PM (dscaa)

187 THIS ass:

Alexander S. Vindman
@AVindman

Hey GOP/MAGA/@FoxNews, if Trump and his henchmen can launch a campaign of harassment, intimidation, and retaliation against a serving Army Officer for testifying before Congress, it can happen to anyone.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2022 05:03 PM (ptqGC)

188 Birmingham Metro area is twice the size of Huntsville.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 09, 2022 05:03 PM (W8LBk)

189 111 Kushner was responsible for getting the US Embassy moved to Jerusalem and getting the Saudis and Israel talking through the Abraham accords. He was back in the kingdom a month or two ago at their behest in their most recent discussions with Israel. But by all means go on about how he sabotaged the Trump administration as a secret Democrat.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 09, 2022 05:03 PM (MFYIp)

190 192 THIS ass:

Alexander S. Vindman
@AVindman

Hey GOP/MAGA/@FoxNews, if Trump and his henchmen can launch a campaign of harassment, intimidation, and retaliation against a serving Army Officer for testifying before Congress, it can happen to anyone.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2022 05:03 PM (ptqGC)

Looks like he took more than a few servings.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 09, 2022 05:04 PM (Y5qcH)

191 Honestly, why hurt bucolic American cities and towns?

Move the whole government, lock stock and barrel to Sonoma. Mexico, that is. Everyone in the private sector has moved jobs to Mexico, lets move some public sector jobs there too. The cartels won't appreciate the criminal competition but we, at least, will get some compelling tv out of it.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 09, 2022 05:04 PM (lFE5c)

192 >>You know who hates the FBI most? Criminals. And those who support and view them as political saviors.

They seemed pretty nice to Hillary, dumbass.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2022 05:04 PM (ZLI7S)

193 This busty brunette strongly suspects that all of these claims of "I didn't know" are bullshit - yet acknowledges that it's somehow even WORSE if it's true:
https://is.gd/e28Nz7

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 09, 2022 05:04 PM (WWh8n)

194 A lock only stops an honest man.
We're just so far down on the supply of honest men in government that I don't see a new IG getting anything done.

It's the incentive: They all have the incentive to increase the size, power and scope of the federal government.

At the end, it's Congress ceding their oversight by blank check omnibus bills and rule-making delegation.
And conservatives knee-jerk voting for "tough on crime" Republicans. Who promptly prove how tough they are by passing more criminal laws, increasing the size, scope and power of the FBI.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 09, 2022 05:04 PM (suPT8)

195 Wait! There's more!

@AVindman

My reporting of the infamous Trump "perfect call" and extortion of Ukraine was based on the fundamental principle tht in America no one is above the law and that in the United States right matters. Thank you DOJ for holding the line. #HereRightMatters

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This ass needs hanging.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2022 05:05 PM (ptqGC)

196 Reassign The FBI Executives to third world embassies, like Zimbabwe and every other sub saharan shithole country.

Since Biden via Covid mandates has proven that EO's have absolute power, require that every single FBI Executive undergo the knife and go fully tranny to keep their jobs.

Many will feel relief in that they can now fully express themselves in the world's garden spots like Benghazi and Mogadishu.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 09, 2022 05:05 PM (3hSHB)

197
Hey GOP/MAGA/@FoxNews, if Trump and his henchmen can launch a campaign of harassment, intimidation, and retaliation against a serving Army Officer for testifying before Congress

Testifying ? BS You fat lying sack o' shit

Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2022 05:05 PM (bs+z0)

198 Ari Fleischer @AriFleischer; 6h
Here’s why the FBI raid - absent a finding that puts former President Trump behind bars - is so damaging:
1) Most governmental institutions are already not trusted by the American people. This raid contributes to mistrust of the FBI.
2) It leads to mistrust of DoJ/the courts. Remember, 2 of the 4 court-approved warrants again Carter Page were found to be invalid.
3) Trump has been subject to numerous probes, all of which turned out empty. If the FBI didn’t find the goods yesterday, add this to the list.
4) Did the DoJ really need to go to this length to enforce the Presidential Paperwork Act? Government lawyers and Trump lawyers couldn’t figure this out? DoJ really had to resort to a raid?
5) FBI didn’t raid Hillary’s home 2search for her server. They didn’t raid the DNC to get the server the Russians hacked. They didn’t raid Clinton NSC Advisor Sandy Berger’s home to see if he had additional smuggled classified materiel. Why is Trump held to a different standard?

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 09, 2022 05:05 PM (yikp0)

199 Ari cont.
6) The Biden WH knows that many Americans won’t believe Biden didn’t know about this or approve it - even if he didn’t know. I suspect this is a headache the Biden WH didn’t want.
7) A precedent has been set. Former Presidents, while not above the law, can now have their homes raided by successor administrations. There’s no telling where that will lead.

Bottom line: FBI better have found smoking gun evidence of crime. If not, this raid should not have been approved & will backfire into a boost for Trump and a further erosion of trust in vital governmental organizations.
My Q to Director Wray and AG Garland: Was it worth it?

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 09, 2022 05:05 PM (yikp0)

200 Yeah. Sure.

But come on. We don't live in Capitalism. We're pretty much Socialist. When GM isn't allowed to fail ? That's not Capitalism.
Posted by: Whitesnake at August 09, 2022 05:04 PM (/cCOr)

Yeah, and what do you think the Deep State IS? A technocratic oligarchy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 09, 2022 05:05 PM (dNqv+)

201 Hey GOP/MAGA/@FoxNews, if Trump and his henchmen can launch a campaign of harassment, intimidation, and retaliation against a serving Army Officer for testifying before Congress, it can happen to anyone.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2022 05:03 PM (ptqGC)
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Looks like the Defense Minister of Ukraine has run out of money for pastries. Needs a new infusion of sweet lefty money.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 09, 2022 05:05 PM (lFE5c)

202 One gets the sense that there's tremendous pressure to produce something that damages Trump at all costs. But from whom? Donors? China?

Wine Moms.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 09, 2022 05:05 PM (Xrfse)

203 More than 1/2 the population receives a govt check of some sort. We are not capitalist in any sense of the word.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 09, 2022 05:06 PM (W8LBk)

204 >>> What did the surface of the sun do to earn that fate? Other that irradiating the earth with cancer-causing and clothes-shedding rays...

The sun... the cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems.

Posted by: LizLem at August 09, 2022 05:06 PM (IGLTY)

205 Shifting the blame away from Sundowner looks like they know it could backfire

Posted by: Skip at August 09, 2022 05:06 PM (k8B25)

206 Better is to eliminate the DC district entirely, except for cases involving DC residents (aka local crimes). Put up all crimes committed by federal employees or employee-adjacents to a random draw for a court. And any crimes committed by tourists or non-DC residents to the same.

Posted by: Nova local at August 09, 2022 04:45 PM (exHjb)

How about a giant WHEEL OF JUSTICE and they can hire Wink Martindale (is he still alive?) to spin it to see what happens. You could have one wheel for trial locations (Fargo, Bumfuck TX, etc.) and another one for possible sentences (five years in pound you in the ass prison, the hot shot).

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 09, 2022 05:06 PM (QRdjz)

207 A lock only stops an honest man. ...
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 09, 2022 05:04 PM (suPT

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Not true. A lock will also stop the casually dishonest - the person looking for targets of opportunity. If someone is committed to being dishonest, a lock is not a tremendous impediment.

The agencies are full of men committed to being dishonest.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 09, 2022 05:06 PM (WWh8n)

208 But come on. We don't live in Capitalism. We're pretty much Socialist. When GM isn't allowed to fail ? That's not Capitalism.
Posted by: Whitesnake at August 09, 2022 05:04 PM (/cCOr)

Agriculture in the US has been pretty much under Fascist like control since the early 20th century.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 09, 2022 05:06 PM (Y5qcH)

209 189 You know who hates the FBI most? Criminals. And those who support and view them as political saviors.
Posted by: Sid at August 09, 2022 05:02 PM (mNSSt)

Somewhere an Ice Age is missing it's Sid.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 09, 2022 05:06 PM (QSjkU)

210 Good take by Baldilocks, as usual. I think the fallout from this is really going to damage the Democrats. I cannot even guess what they were thinking unless it was sheer panicked desperation hoping they'd find a smoking gun or like, Jimmy Hoffa's bones or something.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 04:56 PM (Ivdso)

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I hope they found Al Capone's safe with the exception of a sculpted human hand raising the middle finger.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 09, 2022 05:06 PM (VB3Ik)

211 166 I'd move the EPA

I'd eliminate the EPA.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 09, 2022 04:59 PM (8GBH4)

EPA keeps one job - managing Superfund site cleanups. I worked on Superfund for several years. It's necessary.

Posted by: redchief at August 09, 2022 05:07 PM (LU/A2)

212 When you do, you'll discover why the GOP just ain't as popular in some parts of the country as you think they should be. Mate it with Depression Era shit, and you'll get the full picture, such as distrust of banks, bailing out banks, and so on and so forth.
Posted by: Whitesnake at August 09, 2022 04:58 PM (/cCOr)

You mean propaganda ground in for generations.
In the 1890's the Republican party moved to embrace the better pickings of the North East and West, and left the blacks in the South as uninteresting.
The Dems then labored to attract them through banking and monetary policy, expanding the money supply by increasing the value of silver against Gold for one, and banking changes, to give a reason to go to the Democrat party

And once they were attracted, the progressive wing hammered them down as second class citizens again.

Try pulling in your horns, no one really cares. I hated it when people tried to intimidate me in a phone call. It was embarrassing to listen to.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 09, 2022 05:07 PM (xhaym)

213 I was expecting a Fisk of that Grennel quote.
- Storied?? As in fiction?
- Aloof. No, he is not aloof, he is part of the problem
- Who does this statement serve? What is Grennel running for?

He could have said "There was discussion in the administration two years ago about how bad Wray was,..." without dumping on Trump, and without painting himself as a genius.

Posted by: Library cop at August 09, 2022 05:07 PM (Kq86d)

214 You know who hates the FBI most?

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Self hating cops? Yeah, that tracks ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 09, 2022 05:08 PM (VB3Ik)

215 Hartville, MO, population 594, is the population center of the continental US. I'm sure an abandoned farm building there would be perfect for a new FBI headquarters.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 09, 2022 05:08 PM (sWM8x)

216 I hope they found Al Capone's safe with the exception of a sculpted human hand raising the middle finger.
Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 09, 2022 05:06 PM (VB3Ik)

Maybe a bag of dicks with the tag saying 'Eat me.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 09, 2022 05:08 PM (dNqv+)

217 Ari Fleischer @AriFleischer; 6h
Here’s why the FBI raid - absent a finding that puts former President Trump behind bars - is so damaging:
1) Most governmental institutions are already not trusted by the American people. This raid contributes to mistrust of the FBI.
2) It leads to mistrust of DoJ/the courts. Remember, 2 of the 4 court-approved warrants again Carter Page were found to be invalid.
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 09, 2022 05:05 PM (yikp0)
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More people mistrust, yes. But many people - I am included in this group - no longer mistrust the agencies and the like, they actively *distrust* them. Distrust is a lot more damaging, and they're breeding rather a lot of it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 09, 2022 05:08 PM (WWh8n)

218 What we need is a law that assigns 40% of all IRS activity to auditing federal and state employees.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 09, 2022 05:08 PM (Kq86d)

219 Kushner was responsible for getting the US Embassy moved to Jerusalem and getting the Saudis and Israel talking through the Abraham accords. He was back in the kingdom a month or two ago at their behest in their most recent discussions with Israel. But by all means go on about how he sabotaged the Trump administration as a secret Democrat.

+++

Kushner gave money to Hillary's election PAC and endorsed Obama. He's also given to all sorts of Democrat groups, even as late as 2014.
Donated to Chuck Schumer, Cory Booker, Jon Corzine, Bob Menendez, etc.

So it's hardly some "crazy" theory the guy is a liberal. He is.

https://tinyurl.com/ycy3w589

Posted by: Blago at August 09, 2022 05:08 PM (vdpvO)

220 EPA keeps one job - managing Superfund site cleanups. I worked on Superfund for several years. It's necessary.
Posted by: redchief at August 09, 2022 05:07 PM (LU/A2)

Problem is they haven't turned many Superfund site into not-Superfund sites. The money just keeps getting sucked up by lawyers.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 09, 2022 05:08 PM (Y5qcH)

221 They could assign 18 FBI tools to each mile of the border and run a manual, human-powered dragnet with existing BP staff to run herd on them and make them work...

As long as the BP can use those horse whips the Enemedia was convinced BP was using against the poor immigrants.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 09, 2022 05:08 PM (3hSHB)

222 These people aren’t socialists. They’re not even ideologues. They are criminals pure and simple.

I agree completely with you on this. Some of them say the words and claim all the checklist stuff, but they don't beleive in any of it any more than most of the College of Cardinals or many of the Popes in the past (and the present one). They believe in power and money and sex and everything they can get from it. And that's all.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 05:08 PM (Ivdso)

223 This ass needs hanging.
Posted by: Jane D'oh

If only to see his head pop off from the strain.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 09, 2022 05:08 PM (PpiqM)

224 How about a giant WHEEL OF JUSTICE and they can hire Wink Martindale (is he still alive?) to spin it to see what happens. You could have one wheel for trial locations (Fargo, Bumfuck TX, etc.) and another one for possible sentences (five years in pound you in the ass prison, the hot shot).
Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 09, 2022 05:06 PM (QRdjz)

Wink's 88 and still kicking...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at August 09, 2022 05:09 PM (ZSK0i)

225 "He said FBI leaders told him frontline agents adamantly didn't want the memos declassified and released to the public because they would reveal investigative sources and methods."

Yeah, not accepting the Top Men Syndrome anymore. Most certainly not from centralized bureaucracy with political associations. At best, they're wrong. At worse, they're conspiracists. At worst, they're evil.

As constructed, the FBI cannot exist. If personnel, even if it's the hypothetical tiny sliver of leadership at the top, perform as corruptly as we observe, then its authority is illegitimate. Institutionally, it is drenched in abuse. And if it takes but a handful of leaders - I don't think it's just a handful anymore, but let's move on - to corrupt the entire agency, then it's constructed with fatal flaws and must be eliminated.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at August 09, 2022 05:09 PM (aXxgO)

226 Did he say what Trump's response was?

Posted by: Jim Rose at August 09, 2022 05:09 PM (VFl7m)

227 EPA keeps one job - managing Superfund site cleanups.

And keep their offices at these Superfund sites so they can monitor them closely.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at August 09, 2022 05:09 PM (3hSHB)

228 A LOT of people were begging Trump to clean house, starting in 2016. Obviously, he didn't know who to listen to, or he'd be defacto President today.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 09, 2022 05:09 PM (XvPQV)

229 211 Shifting the blame away from Sundowner looks like they know it could backfire
Posted by: Skip at August 09, 2022 05:06 PM (k8B25)

The fact they're not dragging him out in his aviators to mumble how he "got" him like that Al Qaeda senior citizen, tells you all you need to know about this

Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2022 05:09 PM (bs+z0)

230 I heard the federal government possesses information that will lead to the arrest and imprisonment of Hillary Clinton.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 09, 2022 05:10 PM (lFE5c)

231 Wait! There's more!

@AVindman

My reporting of the infamous Trump "perfect call" and extortion of Ukraine was based on the fundamental principle tht in America no one is above the law and that in the United States right matters. Thank you DOJ for holding the line. #HereRightMatters

This ass needs hanging.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2022 05:05 PM (ptqGC)

They must have focused-grouped "above the law" before this op was greenlighted to see that it makes the 30-40% idiots tingle in their no no squares.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 09, 2022 05:10 PM (U3uv2)

232 Several years with an unlimited budget and they found exactly jack and shit on Trump. They're now down to trying to get him on the presidential records act. Unfuckingbelievable.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 09, 2022 05:10 PM (u73oe)

233 Anything bad anyone here has to say about Grenell????

Posted by: kraken at August 09, 2022 05:10 PM (Vr12I)

234 They could assign 18 FBI tools to each mile of the border and run a manual, human-powered dragnet with existing BP staff to run herd on them and make them work...

As long as the BP can use those horse whips the Enemedia was convinced BP was using against the poor immigrants.

Yep. Someone needs to rein them in.

Posted by: Just Lily at August 09, 2022 05:10 PM (RLLZj)

235 >>One gets the sense that there's tremendous pressure to produce something that damages Trump at all costs. But from whom? Donors? China?

I think by now most agree this idiotic raid is backfiring on the left bigly. The FBI is a political organization no matter what they say and it should have been obvious that this would reflect poorly on them and make Trump a sympathetic character.

Maybe the FBI/DOJ thought they had to because of what those documents show. Paul Sperry said on twitter they related to Spygate and then was instantly banned on twitter.

The FBI/DOJ's actions are so over the top it makes no sense that this is just about dirtying up Trump. They are scared.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2022 05:11 PM (ZLI7S)

236 Agriculture in the US has been pretty much under Fascist like control since the early 20th century.

Yeah between that and the Civil War, Republicans leveraged themselves into unquestioned and unbroken power for like 50 years.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 05:11 PM (Ivdso)

237 This ass needs hanging.

One of a myriad of frustrating things is that from day to day, I can never pick a clear champion of despicability from this gaggle of commie quislings.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 09, 2022 05:11 PM (Xrfse)

238 Criminals posing as a political organization

Posted by: Skip at August 09, 2022 05:12 PM (k8B25)

239 Re: when a city gets over 50k

well, Lake Havasu is 55-65k; it’s gone from 95% R to 80% R with the CA invasion past 20 years; it’s pretty much still reddest part of Mohave County.

There’s plenty of bare desert Fed Land where unairconditioned trailers could be set up to accommodate the swamp people, and plenty of abandoned mineshafts for body disposal if there is a failure to adjust attitude.

Posted by: epador at August 09, 2022 05:12 PM (ns4uC)

240 EPA keeps one job - managing Superfund site cleanups.

No way! We want those sites cleaned up.

At most, they can be in charge of getting gars gassed up and washing the mud off of trucks, for employees actually getting the sites cleaned. Kind of a good employment perk.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 09, 2022 05:12 PM (lFE5c)

241
You know who hates the FBI most? Criminals.

How dare you call the CIA criminals. Downright disloyal, nay, traitorous even.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 09, 2022 05:12 PM (n+4am)

242 A bureaucracy. What are we arguing about ? That we live in a meritocracy ?

We don't. Who you blow is much more important that what you know. And that's been true - literally - since when I was a little kid.

Good grief. I really wish, kinda', that I enjoyed just a taste of the Norman Rockwell life.

Is that all this is ? Boomers arguing about how great things used to be, while they have one more drink on the way out ?
Posted by: Whitesnake at August 09, 2022 05:09 PM (/cCOr)

I think we are on the same page.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 09, 2022 05:12 PM (dNqv+)

243 One of a myriad of frustrating things is that from day to day, I can never pick a clear champion of despicability from this gaggle of commie quislings.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 09, 2022 05:11 PM (Xrfse)
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It's like trying to identify the stupidest person in journalism. The goalposts keep moving.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 09, 2022 05:12 PM (WWh8n)

244 PS... Huntsville is the largest city in Alabama and the most conservative.
Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at August 09, 2022 04:58 PM (qZdIZ)

4th largest.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 09, 2022 05:12 PM (yQpMk)

245 Birmingham Metro area is twice the size of Huntsville.
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 09, 2022 05:03 PM (W8LBk)

And it is deep blue and run into bankruptcy by incompetent Democrats last time I looked.

Posted by: rd at August 09, 2022 05:12 PM (Z32m1)

246 This is easy for Grenell to say. On the other hand, it is pretty obvious- even then.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 09, 2022 04:38 PM (dNqv+)

It was also pretty easy for Ric Grenell to cattily spew a pack of lies about Kathy Barnette in Pennsylvania, when all he had to say was a) nothing, or b) my friend Mr. Trump supports Dr. Oz in this race, and that's who I support.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 09, 2022 05:12 PM (mIldg)

247 Is that all this is ? Boomers arguing about how great things used to be, while they have one more drink on the way out ?

Posted by: Whitesnake at August 09, 2022 05:09 PM (/cCOr)

You know, you would be less irritating if at some point I was convinced you could drive a manual transmission, or were ever allowed to stay at home alone without supervision before your Junior year in high school.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 09, 2022 05:12 PM (xhaym)

248 OT: Sierra Skye Miami Swim Week, slow motion
https://youtu.be/w0fwN3LelCo

May contain high heel-fueled jiggly booty walking

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 09, 2022 05:13 PM (XvPQV)

249 We need a Federal Internal Affairs department.

And a Flat Tax.

... so we can turn those 80k new IRS Agents around and aim them at the Federal Government and its employees.
Posted by: garrett at August 09, 2022 04:40 PM (rDJo+)

Eagle on Head speaks wise words

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 09, 2022 05:13 PM (S+j2h)

250 Paul Sperry said on twitter they related to Spygate and then was instantly banned on twitter.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2022 05:11 PM (ZLI7S)

Pretty bold move for an alleged "conspiracy theory."

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 09, 2022 05:13 PM (U3uv2)

251 240 Anything bad anyone here has to say about Grenell????
Posted by: kraken at August 09, 2022 05:10 PM (Vr12I)

He wears classier crocs than garrett

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 09, 2022 05:13 PM (gbzeC)

252 Anything bad anyone here has to say about Grenell????

I don't trust 'em.

Posted by: Bosk at August 09, 2022 05:13 PM (v4L7Y)

253 I really like Trump just outsourced the actual governing part to his worthless son in law Jared Kushner and just wanted to go to rallies and enjoy the celebrity part of being a President.

How can you be this clueless?

Posted by: Squid at August 09, 2022 05:13 PM (wkzCN)

254
One of a myriad of frustrating things is that from day to day, I can never pick a clear champion of despicability from this gaggle of commie quislings.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 09, 2022 05:11 PM (Xrfse)

I don't know.. McCabe was gloating last night on one of those fake news channels and I wanted to smash that smug face

Posted by: It's me donna at August 09, 2022 05:13 PM (bs+z0)

255 Yeah between that and the Civil War, Republicans leveraged themselves into unquestioned and unbroken power for like 50 years.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 05:11 PM (Ivdso)

And did what with it? A lot of criminals and carpetbaggers rode that gravy train and did fuck all else.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 09, 2022 05:13 PM (dNqv+)

256 Wink's 88 and still kicking

He'd love the job too. For some reason almost all those game show guys are conservatives.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 05:13 PM (Ivdso)

257 Anything bad anyone here has to say about Grenell????
Posted by: kraken at August 09, 2022 05:10 PM (Vr12I)

He's on my shit list for meddling in primary elections this year.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 09, 2022 05:13 PM (yQpMk)

258 Wouldn't it be the biggest kick in the nuts ever if this raid on Trump was just something they planned as a contingency, but some fucking yabbos got their wires crossed and executed the plan by mistake? And they had to scramble to find some crooked "magistrate" to whip up some fake ass back-dated paperwork to cover their asses for it?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 09, 2022 05:14 PM (6FeV1)

259 Nevermind. I found a criticism of Grenell here.

Posted by: kraken at August 09, 2022 05:14 PM (Vr12I)

260 252

Not saying Birmingham is anything other that dogshit. But someone said Huntsville is the biggest city in Alabama which it clearly is not.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 09, 2022 05:14 PM (W8LBk)

261 It has to be a remote island. I don't what any of that scum near me, or any other good people.

Maybe this is whey Trump wanted Greenland.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 09, 2022 05:14 PM (Kq86d)

262 And did what with it? A lot of criminals and carpetbaggers rode that gravy train and did fuck all else.

At first they were pretty good, the gilded era happened largely because the GOP was pretty small government back then. Cal was the last of them, though. Hoover got the presidency by yelling how BIG GOVERNMENT should fix everyone's problems and violating the constitution by using federal dollars to help with flood cleanup.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 05:14 PM (Ivdso)

263 The higher the church attendance the redder the town.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 09, 2022 05:14 PM (WzJXd)

264 Anything bad anyone here has to say about Grenell????

Impeccable pant creases.

Posted by: Just Lily at August 09, 2022 05:15 PM (RLLZj)

265 Maybe this is whey Trump wanted Greenland.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 09, 2022 05:14 PM (Kq86d)
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Man, that would suck. Transfer to US jurisdiction and then get flooded with feds sent there for isolation and punishment.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 09, 2022 05:15 PM (WWh8n)

266 The money isn't going to Ukraine. It's going to Northrup Grumman, etc.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at August 09, 2022 05:15 PM (C1rbv)

267 The crocs critique of Grenell - pretty funny. You have been Out Fabuloused Garrett!!

Posted by: kraken at August 09, 2022 05:15 PM (Vr12I)

268 Better is to eliminate the DC district entirely, except for cases involving DC residents (aka local crimes). Put up all crimes committed by federal employees or employee-adjacents to a random draw for a court. And any crimes committed by tourists or non-DC residents to the same.

Posted by: Nova local at August 09, 2022 04:45 PM (exHjb)

I like that. Eliminate Dem judicial oversight of the government. That was certainly a contributing factor.

Posted by: Iris at August 09, 2022 05:15 PM (NaH5I)

269 Trump is no conservative. If that's what you are looking for in a candidate, good luck.

Posted by: fd at August 09, 2022 05:15 PM (sn5EN)

270 How can you be this clueless?
Posted by: Squid at August 09, 2022 05:13 PM (wkzCN)

Make up a world in your head.
Blame the world outside your head for not matching it.
Act smug in your secret knowledge while others berate you for your solipsistic asininity.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 09, 2022 05:16 PM (6FeV1)

271 I need a civics 101 lesson... can POTUS just dissolve the alphabet agencies within the executive branch? Or does congress have to approve it?

Also, I like how trump threatening to lock up Hillary was democracy dying in darkness. But actually raiding the home of the previous republican POTUS is a-ok.

Posted by: LizLem at August 09, 2022 05:16 PM (IGLTY)

272 May contain high heel-fueled jiggly booty walking
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 09, 2022 05:13 PM (XvPQV)

Maybe it's me, but I didn't find the floppy buttocks all that attractive.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 09, 2022 05:16 PM (QSjkU)

273 I kinda think even in the olden days nepotism and criminality was a thing. Normal Rockwell didn’t paint those images but let’s not kid ourselves that it didn’t exist.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 09, 2022 05:16 PM (W8LBk)

274 Has the glowie shown up on this thread yet. Probably missed it. Got distracted with the real world. I see the usual bunch of trolls have waddled onto the thread.

Posted by: Puddleglum is concerned at August 09, 2022 05:17 PM (sAmhv)

275 Yep. Someone needs to rein them in.
Posted by: Just Lily at August 09, 2022 05:10 PM (RLLZj

--------

Ok, stop horsing around.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 09, 2022 05:17 PM (u73oe)

276 I would be satisfied with mere incompetence at the FBI at this point. Or any federal agency. Mere incompetence / lovable losers would be almost charming and endearing. Anything but what we have now, which is a politicized arm of the dem/uniparty. Yes, there is incompetence in the mix now, but it's the weaponization of the government that is the crux of the problem.

Posted by: Paladin at August 09, 2022 05:17 PM (acEq7)

277 Floppy Buttocks had to have opened for someone, somewhere

Posted by: kraken at August 09, 2022 05:17 PM (Vr12I)

278 Remember the FBI is the same agency that sent to agents to interview a friend? associate? of Speed Bump Tsarnev in Florida. Somehow during the interview they ended up shooting the unarmed interviewee dead.

The FBI Internal review found no problem with them shooting an unarmed man dead in his living room.

Posted by: rd at August 09, 2022 05:17 PM (Z32m1)

279 It's like trying to identify the stupidest person in journalism. The goalposts keep moving.

Exactly.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 09, 2022 05:17 PM (Xrfse)

280 >>Pretty bold move for an alleged "conspiracy theory."

And who is the current Assistant General Counsel at Twitter?

James Baker, formerly General Counsel of the FBI under Comey.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2022 05:17 PM (ZLI7S)

281 276 Trump is no conservative. If that's what you are looking for in a candidate, good luck.
Posted by: fd at August 09, 2022 05:15 PM (sn5EN)

The FBI is the most conservative organization in this country right now.

There is an institution that has a long and storied history of existence, and the members of that institution will happily stand athwart any force that seeks to blemish their existence and yell "FISA warrant".

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 09, 2022 05:17 PM (6FeV1)

282 May contain high heel-fueled jiggly booty walking
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 09, 2022 05:13 PM (XvPQV)

Maybe it's me, but I didn't find the floppy buttocks all that attractive.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 09, 2022 05:16 PM (QSjkU)

She's REALLY good from the front but, yeah, had to put the warning up there. She is skipping Squats day.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 09, 2022 05:18 PM (XvPQV)

283 211 Shifting the blame away from Sundowner looks like they know it could backfire
Posted by: Skip at August 09, 2022 05:06 PM (k8B25)
_____________

I can believe they didn't tell him. He could perfectly well blurt out something impolitic, like when he asserted the Dems had the biggest fraud machine in American political history. Oopsie.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 09, 2022 05:18 PM (YqDXo)

284 Grenell, on a job is a bulldog, out of a job he posts for the crew.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 09, 2022 05:18 PM (WzJXd)

285
Maybe this is whey Trump wanted Greenland.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 09, 2022 05:14 PM (Kq86d)

And there's plenty of room to relocate the Curds when the Arabs and other mohammedan savages start messing with them again in Iraq/Turkey/Syria/Iran.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 09, 2022 05:18 PM (n+4am)

286 279 May contain high heel-fueled jiggly booty walking
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 09, 2022 05:13 PM (XvPQV)

Maybe it's me, but I didn't find the floppy buttocks all that attractive.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 09, 2022 05:16 PM (QSjkU)

Agreed on the big booty thing.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 09, 2022 05:18 PM (dNqv+)

287 Can you guys keep it down? The FBI is trying to manufacture evidence against Trump! They need quiet to do their work. So hush.

Scotch. Guns. Girls. Smoked meats.

kidding
FU, Uncle Sam

Posted by: DB at August 09, 2022 05:18 PM (geLO8)

288 Shoulda, coulda, woulda fired him; so much easier said than done. OK, the FBI stinks.
On August 5th, Vanity Fair runs a story, "The FBI Confirms Its Brett Kavanaugh Investigation was a Total Sham" by Bess Levin. The White House was making sure it didn't dig too deep - allegedly. The article goes on to say..."In a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Thursday, Senator Sheldon Whitehouse had the following exchange with FBI director Christopher Wray (emphasis ours):" Gonna need to read the exchange on your own, if interested, but it pretty much wraps up with: Regardless of whether or not it’s true that the FBI has a policy of taking direction “from the requesting entity,” it would seem that if an individual is up for a job in which he will have the power to affect millions of people’s lives, and has been accused of engaging in horrible acts, the most powerful investigative body in the country should take a more active role.

Congressional oversight, Congressional budgeting, serve two Masters

Posted by: Lola at August 09, 2022 05:18 PM (NIYa7)

289 Ok, stop horsing around.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 09, 2022 05:17 PM (u73oe)

Don't stirrup trouble

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 09, 2022 05:18 PM (S+j2h)

290 Say, that garrett fellow is kind of sexy
RAWR!!

Posted by: David French at August 09, 2022 05:19 PM (kgtlQ)

291 Posted by: Kindltot at August 09, 2022 05:12 PM (xhaym)

Is this the man of a thousand handles again or someone else because the "unhappy boomers" screed sure sounds like him, but then again so does "Good For the Gander" and "man of many handles" does use four letter nics.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2022 05:19 PM (wvo9L)

292 Tough week for the NeverTrumpers, what with IRS shock troops being unleashed, the insanity at Mar-A-Lago, and the inflation report coming tomorrow.

But like the good Demofascists they are, at least they can take comfort in the Democrat victory paying off their donors with their Manchin Spend-a-palooza.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 09, 2022 05:19 PM (lFE5c)

293 Make up a world in your head.
Blame the world outside your head for not matching it.
Act smug in your secret knowledge while others berate you for your solipsistic asininity.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 09, 2022 05:16 PM (6FeV1)

*adjusts collar uncomfortably*

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 09, 2022 05:19 PM (XvPQV)

294 Shifting the blame away from Sundowner looks like they know it could backfire

Posted by: Skip at August 09, 2022 05:06 PM (k8B25

You would think they would pin it on him in that case since he is expendable, and so many are convinced they are "getting rid of him".

As convinced as they are that Kamala (bought and paid for) is equally unwanted.

None of the above is the case I don't think. All they want is plausible deniability for their latest bs operation. Top and bottom. I don't think backfiring comes into it.

Posted by: ... at August 09, 2022 05:19 PM (dscaa)

295 At first they were pretty good, the gilded era happened largely because the GOP was pretty small government back then. Cal was the last of them, though. Hoover got the presidency by yelling how BIG GOVERNMENT should fix everyone's problems and violating the constitution by using federal dollars to help with flood cleanup.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 05:14 PM (Ivdso)

Christopher, it was also a major monetary expansion period due to railroad bonds issued by the FedGov and Treasury acts to increase the redemption price of silver against gold, acting as an inflationary pressure, driving a business cycle bubble. There were also market distortions created by tariffs to protect US industries. The late Guilded age was also plagued with panics, which we call bubble collapses and depressions.
Smaller government and regulation load to be sure, but also business cycles whipsawing things around

Posted by: Kindltot at August 09, 2022 05:19 PM (xhaym)

296 I like the idea that the Whitehouse didn't know about the raid.

Posted by: Max Power at August 09, 2022 05:19 PM (k7+BO)

297 You know, you would be less irritating if at some point I was convinced you could drive a manual transmission, or were ever allowed to stay at home alone without supervision before your Junior year in high school.

That was pretty good. I lurfed.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 09, 2022 05:19 PM (Xrfse)

298 So that video of Dark Brandon struggling to get his jacket back on and staring into space wondering were he is right after getting off Marine One.....

How long before he's wearing a leash to prevent him from potentially walking into the tail rotor?

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at August 09, 2022 05:19 PM (x2enk)

299 The Republicans in the HoR have promised serious inquiries will be made after the Red Wave crashes over D.C. in November.

Call me an optimist, if you must, but I believe that these serious inquiries, when conducted by a wartime general like Kevin McCarthy, will put a halt to these types of oversteps. Lifelong rank and file members of the three letter agencies will be forced to confront the gravity of their actions and will almost certainly straighten up and quit using their positions as politically weaponized platforms.

House Leader McCarthy will bring them to heel and we will see a self-restraint by the DOJ, FBI, CIA and NSA heretofore never seen. For if they don't, they know Senator Cruz will issue scathing remarks and completely own them in Senate hearings.

That is why I am enthusiastically rushing to the polls in November to bring about a mighty Red Tsunami. They will restore this nation to its former glory! They are men of integrity and valor! Long live the GOP!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 09, 2022 05:19 PM (W4b9A)

300 The FBI/DOJ's actions are so over the top it makes no sense that this is just about dirtying up Trump. They are scared.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2022 05:11 PM (ZLI7S)

Pardon my ignorance, but couldn't those documents have been copied and handed off to a third party, sort of a Kill Switch?

I think they likely do pertain to a nexus between the Epstein blackmail ring and Russiagate. I'm confident now that Barr's fat ass was to serve as a sweeper, much as he did when the FBI sniper Horiuichi murdered the little Weaver kid.

Is there any doubt Mossad, the American IC, and MI6 (and likely Italy and Austrailia) were having underaged girls get it on with key folks to blackmail them? Sealing the Epstein client list was the tell. And let's face it, Wray and Comey look like kiddie diddlers themselves.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 09, 2022 05:20 PM (nMx88)

301 284 Floppy Buttocks had to have opened for someone, somewhere
Posted by: kraken at August 09, 2022 05:17 PM (Vr12I)

You can find multiple Kardashian sex tapes here and there.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 09, 2022 05:20 PM (dNqv+)

302 Has the glowie shown up on this thread yet. Probably missed it. Got distracted with the real world. I see the usual bunch of trolls have waddled onto the thread.

Posted by: Puddleglum is concerned

Don't know about glowies, but I miss Sarah and her slowly dropping hourly rate.

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at August 09, 2022 05:20 PM (ZUzan)

303 So that video of Dark Brandon struggling to get his jacket back on and staring into space wondering were he is right after getting off Marine One.....

How long before he's wearing a leash to prevent him from potentially walking into the tail rotor?

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at August 09, 2022 05:19 PM (x2enk)

Why put him on a leash? Let him wander.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2022 05:20 PM (ptqGC)

304 " Ok, stop horsing around.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Don't stirrup trouble
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway"

Ok Corral it for a bit.

Posted by: fd at August 09, 2022 05:20 PM (sn5EN)

305 Put up all crimes committed by federal employees or employee-adjacents to a random draw for a court. And any crimes committed by tourists or non-DC residents to the same.

Absolutely. Treat DC as being not a legal district of its own, but part of the United States at large, and you can get a trial ANYWHERE in the USA for federal crimes committed there.

Yes, technically you defrauded the treasury in DC, but as this is considered American territory, your trial will be held in Nebraska.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 05:20 PM (Ivdso)

306 Speaking of Manchin Baby BBB turns out he $7500 EV tax credits only apply to US made batteries where the minerals are US made or US recycled. And very few batteries qualify.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 09, 2022 05:20 PM (W8LBk)

307 Shifting the blame away from Sundowner looks like they know it could backfire

Posted by: Skip

Shifting the blame means it already has.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 09, 2022 05:21 PM (lTGtQ)

308
Floppy Buttocks had to have opened for someone, somewhere
Posted by: kraken at August 09, 2022 05:17 PM (Vr12I)

I saw Floppy Buttocks open for the Butthole Surfers at the Cow Palace back in '93.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 09, 2022 05:21 PM (n+4am)

309 I like the idea that the Whitehouse didn't know about the raid.
Posted by: Max Power at August 09, 2022 05:19 PM (k7+BO)

That could be true, they told Joey, and, well, you know, he thought they were raiding Entebbe

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 09, 2022 05:21 PM (S+j2h)

310 304 I like the idea that the Whitehouse didn't know about the raid.
Posted by: Max Power at August 09, 2022 05:19 PM (k7+BO)

I can buy Joe Biden not knowing or forgetting about the raid.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 09, 2022 05:21 PM (b2nrj)

311 Is this the man of a thousand handles again or someone else because the "unhappy boomers" screed sure sounds like him, but then again so does "Good For the Gander" and "man of many handles" does use four letter nics.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2022 05:19 PM (wvo9L)

I go by tone and "flavor" of the posts. {{hugs Fenelon}}

Posted by: Kindltot at August 09, 2022 05:21 PM (xhaym)

312 Didn't Leon Panetta walk out of a SCIF with documents in his pants? Thought it was him or someone from the Clinton era.

Posted by: SARDiver at August 09, 2022 05:21 PM (Cmxw7)

313 Someone was to be splaining to me how this is "backfiring" on anyone.

The "right" is pissed and the "left" is giddy.

Where's the backfire?

Please type slowly because everyone knows I'm kinda stupid.

Posted by: weirdflunky at August 09, 2022 05:21 PM (cknjq)

314 Manuals are great. Gives you something to do while driving.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 09, 2022 05:21 PM (dNqv+)

315 I saw Floppy Buttocks open for the Butthole Surfers at the Cow Palace back in '93.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 09, 2022 05:21 PM (n+4am)

I think the Buzzcocks were there too

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 09, 2022 05:21 PM (S+j2h)

316 > Didn't Leon Panetta walk out of a SCIF with documents in his pants? Thought it was him or someone from the Clinton era.

You might be thinking of Sandy Berger.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 09, 2022 05:22 PM (eyxn4)

317 Posted by: Kindltot at August 09, 2022 05:21 PM (xhaym)

And which flavor was it?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2022 05:22 PM (wvo9L)

318 Wray is married with two kids
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2022 04:45 PM (wvo9L)

Plenty of shirt-lifters are "married with Kids". It's called "having a beard."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 09, 2022 05:22 PM (mIldg)

319 I saw Floppy Buttocks open for The Butthole Surfers at The Vatican in '91.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 09, 2022 05:22 PM (vcv8B)

320 Remember the "Everybody Draw Mohammed" Art Festival in TX? The "Domestic Terrorist" that was encouraged by FBI provocateurs to TEAR UP TEXAS!!!

He was shot dead in the parking lot. Does anyone remember that the TX LEO almost shot the guy following him in a car? That guy was an FBI Agent that was following the Terrorist to his planned attack on unarmed civilians at an art festival.

Was someone following Nicholas Cruz? Or the Uvalde Shitstain?

Posted by: rd at August 09, 2022 05:22 PM (Z32m1)

321 Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 09, 2022 05:19 PM (W4b9A)

I'm looking for a kinder, gentler Green New Deal that's easily plundered.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 09, 2022 05:22 PM (nMx88)

322 Manuals are great. Gives you something to do while driving.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 09, 2022 05:21 PM (dNqv+)

Yeah, but if you don't roll the window up they blow all over the place

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 09, 2022 05:22 PM (S+j2h)

323 But they can be rubber-roomed during that period. Then fired.

Check your hydration. You may be shocky.

Posted by: DaveA at August 09, 2022 05:22 PM (FhXTo)

324 Posted earlier: there are two parts to the left, DeepState and the Democrat party. Generally they work in concert.
But, like Wray, DeepState has a tin ear.

This was a tin ear DeepState raid and the Party is unhappy.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 09, 2022 05:22 PM (WzJXd)

325 321 Someone was to be splaining to me how this is "backfiring" on anyone.

The "right" is pissed and the "left" is giddy.

Where's the backfire?

Please type slowly because everyone knows I'm kinda stupid.
Posted by: weirdflunky at August 09, 2022 05:21 PM (cknjq)

I think backfire is wish casting- until it isn't.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 09, 2022 05:23 PM (dNqv+)

326 Oh, beaten to it.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 09, 2022 05:23 PM (vcv8B)

327 Kevin McCarthy is livid. Livid I tells, ya. livid!!

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 09, 2022 05:23 PM (W8LBk)

328
I saw Floppy Buttocks open for the Butthole Surfers at the Cow Palace back in '93.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 09, 2022 05:21 PM (n+4am)

I think the Buzzcocks were there too
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway

Entirely possible, I was wasted.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 09, 2022 05:23 PM (n+4am)

329 314 Speaking of Manchin Baby BBB turns out he $7500 EV tax credits only apply to US made batteries where the minerals are US made or US recycled. And very few batteries qualify.

Posted by: Joe Xiden

I thought that only kicked in in 2030

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 09, 2022 05:23 PM (Kq86d)

330 It was a great truck.
==
You're a cowboy, on a pale horse you ride . . .

wanted. Dead or alive.

Posted by: *blinks* at August 09, 2022 05:23 PM (7UaKa)

331 Whitesnake, please. You are trying too hard.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 09, 2022 05:23 PM (xhaym)

332 Yeah, but if you don't roll the window up they blow all over the place
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 09, 2022 05:22 PM (S+j2h)

Chilton ref. Nice.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 09, 2022 05:23 PM (dNqv+)

333 I'm not sure where I stand with Ric Grennell.
Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at August 09, 2022 04:46 PM (53oGX)

Don't stand in front of him while wearing assless chaps.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 09, 2022 05:24 PM (mIldg)

334 322 Manuals are great. Gives you something to do while driving.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 09, 2022 05:21 PM (dNqv+)

I always preferred getting oral while driving more interesting. Hard to focus on the actual driving though.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 09, 2022 05:24 PM (QSjkU)

335 >>Pardon my ignorance, but couldn't those documents have been copied and handed off to a third party, sort of a Kill Switch?

I don't know the rules of copying documents like that but if I was Trump I wouldn't have kept the originals at his home anyway.

Supposedly the FBI went through the whole place taking whatever documents they wanted without even reviewing them. That isn't normal. The FBI has been after him since the 2016 election, there actions are getting increasingly extreme and bizarre.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2022 05:24 PM (ZLI7S)

336 So that video of Dark Brandon struggling to get his jacket back on and staring into space wondering were he is right after getting off Marine One.....

How long before he's wearing a leash to prevent him from potentially walking into the tail rotor?

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at August 09, 2022 05:19 PM (x2enk)

Why put him on a leash? Let him wander.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2022 05:20 PM (ptqGC)

Accidentally push? Let me think about it.
O. K.!!!

Posted by: Jill Biden at August 09, 2022 05:24 PM (kgtlQ)

337 Only way it backfires is if LIVs think raiding a former potus is bad. They may well think it. But it’s way too early to know.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 09, 2022 05:24 PM (W8LBk)

338 The culture of the FBI is too rotten to be saved. It must be disestablished, and any employee above GS-11 prohibited from working for the new agency.

The way to get the corner office was to ignore the law and curry favor with the political patrons. That culture is too strong, you can't stamp it out. You need to build a new agency from scratch with an ethical code that is rigorously and uniformly enforced.

Posted by: You're in hell, the world ended at August 09, 2022 05:24 PM (sPSRe)

339 Smaller government and regulation load to be sure, but also business cycles whipsawing things around

Yeah the train thing I kind of understand because it was desperately needed but had no real funding? But monetary policy was pretty bad back then. The government went bankrupt several times and had to be bailed out by JP Morgan. Not his company, JP himself.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 05:24 PM (Ivdso)

340 327 I saw Floppy Buttocks open for The Butthole Surfers at The Vatican in '91.
Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 09, 2022 05:22 PM (vcv8B)

There we go. Thread saved.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 09, 2022 05:25 PM (XvPQV)

341 Are you the chic still fluffed up about who can talk here, at the same time you're fluffed up about how a farmer talks to your boy ?

oh boy, here come the white knights and the hash tag police

Posted by: brak at August 09, 2022 05:25 PM (j5Tg0)

342 Is Trump capable of breaking apart the FBI? He seems to have a real aversion to radical institutional reform. I hope he lays down his markers in the campaign, builds a mandate for very specific actions to overhaul the government.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 09, 2022 05:25 PM (H8QX8)

343 Getting in early in the thread!!

I believe what ace is proposing is an entire new nation after national divorce. Preferably one that includes all the current land mass with all the lefties moved to Canada.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at August 09, 2022 05:25 PM (QYPq3)

344 Move fbi hq to Alcatraz.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 09, 2022 05:25 PM (u73oe)

345
Oh, beaten to it.
Posted by: quantum mechanic

Ha!

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 09, 2022 05:25 PM (n+4am)

346 Floppy Buttocks had to have opened for someone, somewhere
Posted by: kraken at August 09, 2022 05:17 PM (Vr12I)
------
Floppy Buttocks opened for Steely Dan at the Cavern Club back in '82

Posted by: jhawk90 at August 09, 2022 05:25 PM (9Np+H)

347 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 09, 2022 05:22 PM (mIldg)

My questionwas that someone can determine who is gay based on how they do their hair ?-which was what was said. Believe it or not, there are creepy members of the Deep State who happen to not put "yams up their shoot" and are straight.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2022 05:25 PM (wvo9L)

348 328 Remember the "Everybody Draw Mohammed" Art Festival in TX? The "Domestic Terrorist" that was encouraged by FBI provocateurs to TEAR UP TEXAS!!!

He was shot dead in the parking lot. Does anyone remember that the TX LEO almost shot the guy following him in a car? That guy was an FBI Agent that was following the Terrorist to his planned attack on unarmed civilians at an art festival.

Was someone following Nicholas Cruz? Or the Uvalde Shitstain?
Posted by: rd
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This request has been denied.

Posted by: Federal Redaction Agency at August 09, 2022 05:25 PM (WzJXd)

349 All trolls are Average Joe.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) reminds you at August 09, 2022 05:25 PM (yQpMk)

350 I liked the Kari Lake sidebar statement, though it did break stuff.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 09, 2022 05:26 PM (XvPQV)

351 Believe it or not, there are creepy members of the Deep State who happen to not put "yams up their shoot" and are straight.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2022 05:25 PM (wvo9L)

You know this from personal experience?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) reminds you at August 09, 2022 05:26 PM (yQpMk)

352 Posted by: Whitesnake at August 09, 2022 05:22 PM (/cCOr)
================
Biden's Used Diaper just learned to type.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 09, 2022 05:27 PM (lFE5c)

353 Ace post #400400

Nice

Posted by: weirdflunky at August 09, 2022 05:27 PM (cknjq)

354 Didn't Leon Panetta walk out of a SCIF with documents in his pants? Thought it was him or someone from the Clinton era.
Posted by: SARDiver at August 09, 2022 05:21 PM (Cmxw7)

Sandy Berger. At the National archives. They said they were "duplicate documents," except they were the originals with Bill Clinton's handwritten notes. Which are now safely destroyed and cannot embarrass the Clintons.

Why they give people the originals and not copies or photographs of the originals? I guess the special people get special privileges. If us peasants asked to review them? We would be laughed at and sent on our way.

Posted by: rd at August 09, 2022 05:27 PM (Z32m1)

355 Are you the chic still fluffed up about who can talk here, at the same time you're fluffed up about how a farmer talks to your boy ?

Anybody can say anything they like here and I can object, and you look pathetic bringing my son into things. Goodbye, Bozo

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2022 05:27 PM (wvo9L)

356 350 I liked the Kari Lake sidebar statement, though it did break stuff.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 09, 2022 05:26 PM (XvPQV)

Her campaign logo looks like beef jerky packaging.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 09, 2022 05:27 PM (6FeV1)

357 Thomas Bender: "The whole edifice of what we we think or thought the government is outmoded."

Yep. Of the schooling I had RE government, it doesn't really jibe with what I've lived. Every day I see government and law move further and further away from what I was taught and thought. The foundations keep moving. Most everything I know is in conflict with the way it is practiced.

Distressing to say the least. I am no longer of that system. Let's just say it is actually becoming clarifying in a perverse way. And, ironically, freeing. And now I'll say no more.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at August 09, 2022 05:27 PM (aXxgO)

358 We should form a new nation and call it Congaea. Then immediately nuke all the blue cities and run all the communists up to Canada. Problem solved.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 09, 2022 05:28 PM (QSjkU)

359 Isn't it way past time for a church committee to investigate all the agencies?

I know it will never happen but a girl can dream.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 09, 2022 05:28 PM (0Cl6X)

360 My questionwas that someone can determine who is gay based on how they do their hair ?-which was what was said. Believe it or not, there are creepy members of the Deep State who happen to not put "yams up their shoot" and are straight.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2022 05:25 PM (wvo9L)

Fen, I love you, but you are missing our métier. If they are not gay, then they are pedophiles or pedophile enabling asshats. (and can also be thrown in there liberally.) There is a rhythm and a general flow to how we denigrate our opponents.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 09, 2022 05:28 PM (dNqv+)

361 All I know is the "don't shoot guns here" guy tagging buildings got shot to death while painting another mural. Turns out gang bangers don't like to be told what to do.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 05:28 PM (Ivdso)

362 >>>Believe it or not, there are creepy members of the Deep State who happen to not put "yams up their shoot" and are straight.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at
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This statement has been approved

Posted by: Federal Redaction Agency approval section 8 at August 09, 2022 05:28 PM (WzJXd)

363 I don't know the rules of copying documents like that but if I was Trump I wouldn't have kept the originals at his home anyway.

Supposedly the FBI went through the whole place taking whatever documents they wanted without even reviewing them. That isn't normal. The FBI has been after him since the 2016 election, there actions are getting increasingly extreme and bizarre.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2022 05:24 PM (ZLI7S)

No clue, either, but warrants are required to list with specificity about what is sought. The warrant becomes public record over time. Something has them squirrelly and I do think it involves Epstein.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 09, 2022 05:28 PM (nMx88)

364 Nood Magnum PI

Posted by: She Hobbit (out and about in Middle Earth) at August 09, 2022 05:28 PM (ZUzan)

365 > Somehow during the interview they ended up shooting the unarmed interviewee dead.

I've seen plenty of badge cam video of cops shooting "unarmed" people dead in completely justifiable situations. It's entirely possible they assassinated the guy, but it's also possible he refused to show his hands, acted like he had a weapon, then raised his arms quickly as if going into a shooting stance.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 09, 2022 05:28 PM (eyxn4)

366 Posted by: G'rump928(c) reminds you at August 09, 2022 05:26 PM (yQpMk)

No, I assume not every villain in the Deep State is gay and I didnt mention come up with the term Yams up the shoot

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2022 05:28 PM (wvo9L)

367 321 Someone was to be splaining to me how this is "backfiring" on anyone.

The "right" is pissed and the "left" is giddy.

Where's the backfire?

Please type slowly because everyone knows I'm kinda stupid.
Posted by: weirdflunky at August 09, 2022 05:21 PM (cknjq)

Yes but what about all those independent moderates that everyone talks about?

Posted by: Javems at August 09, 2022 05:29 PM (AmoqO)

368 Nood. Magnum PI.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 09, 2022 05:29 PM (dNqv+)

369
Where have you gone, Sandy Hamburglar --
A nation turns its underwear to you ... woo hoo hoo.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 09, 2022 05:29 PM (CWNLM)

370 So that video of Dark Brandon struggling to get his jacket back on and staring into space wondering were he is right after getting off Marine One.....

How long before he's wearing a leash to prevent him from potentially walking into the tail rotor?

Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at August 09, 2022 05:19 PM (x2enk)

Why put him on a leash? Let him wander.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 09, 2022 05:20 PM (ptqGC)

Give him roller skates too.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 09, 2022 05:29 PM (VwHCD)

371 Isn't it way past time for a church committee to investigate all the agencies?

The Church Committee apparently bungled everything despite its ominous seeming reports and angry rhetoric. The CIA has gotten even worse since then.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 05:29 PM (Ivdso)

372 Why all this slander against yams?

I like yams. Yams never do you people no harm.

With lots of butter.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at August 09, 2022 05:29 PM (Kq86d)

373 Okay government, turn your self off.
No. No. Leave me alone.
King's X.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at August 09, 2022 05:29 PM (3/Wmn)

374
And which flavor was it?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2022 05:22 PM (wvo9L)

I have a theory of synesthesia, some words and patterns have a "flavor" to them.
When the fetus is developing the neural tissue it appears (some reading I have don indicates) that there aren't actual blocks devoted to ID color, or sounds or sensations, the areas tend to interconnect and to some degree interpenetrate. My blue sky theory is that in synesthesia the areas touching tend to "leak" so a visual indicator is given to an audio input.

If you want a quick, completely snarky response because TLD, I will say "earwax"

Posted by: Kindltot at August 09, 2022 05:30 PM (xhaym)

375 I'm pretty sure Hitler, Pol Pot and Mao were pretty "scared" and "desperate" at times.

Posted by: ... at August 09, 2022 05:31 PM (dscaa)

376 > Isn't it way past time for a church committee to investigate all the agencies?

Posted by: CaliGirl

what reason would we have to believe it was a legit investigation, or that its finding were in any way factual? Faith in gov't has been ruined.

Posted by: DB at August 09, 2022 05:31 PM (geLO8)

377 Please type slowly because everyone knows I'm kinda stupid

A lot of evidence on social media that this is upsetting and concerning normally apolitical people. Many people you would not expect to are condemning this. The GOP seems to be so upset by this they are willing to meet with and work with Trump now. Leftists are out on the internet trying desperately to get people to stop calling this a "raid". The news media is downplaying it.

Its too early and sketchy to tell, but the pattern has long been established that Americans may dislike a president but if someone does something to them, voters become very upset.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 05:31 PM (Ivdso)

378 Isn't it way past time for a church committee to investigate all the agencies?

Jesssss!

Posted by: Tom�s de Torquemada pumps his fist at August 09, 2022 05:31 PM (yQpMk)

379 Believe it or not, there are creepy members of the Deep State who happen to not put "yams up their shoot" and are straight.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2022 05:25 PM (wvo9L)
_____________

They've eschewed my yam therapy?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - Impeach Joe Biden at August 09, 2022 05:32 PM (YqDXo)

380 Candied yams. Hoo-doggies.

Posted by: DB at August 09, 2022 05:32 PM (geLO8)

381 Yams never do you people no harm.

I burned my mouth pretty bad on some yams once. My mom does this recipe where she puts marshmellows on top and bakes them into golden perfection. I don't like yams but I tried them out of polite respect when she cooked them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 05:32 PM (Ivdso)

382 No, I assume not every villain in the Deep State is gay and I didnt mention come up with the term Yams up the shoot
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 09, 2022 05:28 PM (wvo9L)

You know what they say about assuming.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 09, 2022 05:32 PM (yQpMk)

383 Posted by: CaliGirl
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__1970 Christopher Pyle - US Army spying on the civilian population
_Operation MKULTRA - drugging & torture of unwitting citizens
_COINTELPRO - surveillance and infiltration of American organizations
_Family Jewels, CIA program to covertly assassinate foreign leaders

_Operation Mockingbird a systematic propaganda campaign with domestic and foreign journalists operating as CIA assets and dozens of US news organizations providing cover for CIA activity
_Project SHAMROCK - major telecommunications companies shared their traffic with the NSA

https://bit.ly/3bD7sA9

Posted by: Braenyard at August 09, 2022 05:32 PM (WzJXd)

384 I won't believe any of the fucking rhetoric until these rogue motherfuckers are defunded. Money talks.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 09, 2022 05:33 PM (WHt4f)

385 Never heard 'up the yam chute' before, but it's pretty damn funny.

Posted by: 496 at August 09, 2022 05:34 PM (VJsqe)

386 @Woj_Pawelczyk
Ron Paul in 1988:

"It almost looks like the FBI was designed to spy on Americans who might be disagreeing with policy."

https://tinyurl.com/5mfe8mth

Posted by: redridinghood at August 09, 2022 05:35 PM (NpAcC)

387 o that video of Dark Brandon struggling to get his jacket back on and staring into space wondering were he is right after getting off Marine One..... Posted by: Nigel West Dickens at August 09, 2022 05:19 PM (x2enk)

What gets me is the way Doctor Jill just stands there and lets him flounder for a while before helping him about 3/4 of the way, and then letting him flounder some more. And the two Marines just stand there expressionless and motionless. You would think that common courtesy would be that one of them give him a hand. Doesn't he have aides and hangers-on? Nobody helped. They just let him go on and on.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 09, 2022 05:35 PM (7B5FA)

388 381 Yams never do you people no harm.

I burned my mouth pretty bad on some yams once. My mom does this recipe where she puts marshmellows on top and bakes them into golden perfection. I don't like yams but I tried them out of polite respect when she cooked them.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 05:32 PM (Ivdso)
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My aunt did that to us every family Christmas lunch.
Yuck. I love yams, buttered yams.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 09, 2022 05:35 PM (WzJXd)

389 Federales love yams patootie.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 09, 2022 05:36 PM (WzJXd)

390 The FBI has been after him since the 2016 election, there actions are getting increasingly extreme and bizarre. Posted by: JackStraw at August 09, 2022 05:24 PM (ZLI7S)

Pretty sure they've been after him since he came down the escalator in 2015.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 09, 2022 05:37 PM (7B5FA)

391 Yeah the train thing I kind of understand because it was desperately needed but had no real funding? But monetary policy was pretty bad back then. The government went bankrupt several times and had to be bailed out by JP Morgan. Not his company, JP himself.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 09, 2022 05:24 PM (Ivdso)

Bimetalism is poison for a hard currency regime, as Louis Napoleon III found out too.
When your spot price for silver is one buck a troy ounce and Gold is at 16, declaring it at $20 is inflationary and drives greater mining for silver, and silver redemption, which is not good when all the other countries outside of China deal only in Gold.

But this drives inflation because it creates money without any effective value to support it, and though the hard currency is not like fiat, it still causes both a Cantillon effect for the banks, and a business cycle because it messes up pricing signals for the market and banking and encourages long term and capital investing even though there is not a real market for the items, just "free money".

Sorry, sperging here

Posted by: Kindltot at August 09, 2022 05:38 PM (xhaym)

392 "Operation Mar A Lago" might be Wray fighting back a bit against Big D. Lots of lefties bitching that FBI hasn't been aggressive enough re DJT. Wray may have launched the raid as a response. "Fine. You want it, you got it. Not much there, so stand by for the bullshit, and leave me the fuck alone." Strong bureaucratic power move, if so.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at August 09, 2022 05:38 PM (61uie)

393 117 The way Ric describes Wray rings very very true and is a long-standing, disastrous trend in the Beltway. This idiotic "brand loyalty" nonsense, which is the nothing more than unserious, mediocre, unqualified people being put in positions of responsibility who have no idea what their real responsibilities are. I saw it at various levels years ago.
____________

These people don't know what "Public Service" means. They think it means perks and pensions, politicking and glad-handing. Pushing the peasants around. Apparently also, for some, great hairstyles.

That's why I would crawl over broken glass to vote for someone who will follow through on dispersing these agencies all across the country. No main office allowed in DC or environs.

Unintended consequence though, where would all these power hungry pricks go if they can't get the coveted DC office?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 09, 2022 05:40 PM (fs1hN)

394 381 I burned my mouth pretty bad on some yams once.

a yam once bit my sister

Posted by: anachronda at August 09, 2022 05:40 PM (/ZwW5)

395 "Operation Mar A Lago" might be Wray fighting back a bit against Big D. Lots of lefties bitching that FBI hasn't been aggressive enough re DJT. Wray may have launched the raid as a response. "Fine. You want it, you got it. Not much there, so stand by for the bullshit, and leave me the fuck alone." Strong bureaucratic power move, if so.
==
Garland called this shot.

This does not happen unless the Attny Gen'l of the US says go. This is a former president, and the likely front runner in the upcoming presidential election.

Posted by: you may be correct that wray was reluctant but . . . at August 09, 2022 05:40 PM (7UaKa)

396 And, on the other hand, the three harpies are not evidence of anything.

They have their little tag team of constant revisionist allegations that they just know, just feel, can just revise under oath statements at will as part of their "prep."
It's ridiculous.

I hope after the one gets tossed off of tv in good while, she and the other 2 are relegated to jobs in windowless little rooms with lousy laptops and poor wifi connections.

---------------------------------
Aside from that, I had a boss who let me hang for days in grueling depositions and then it was finally her turn. She opens a paper bag and begins removing bottle after bottle of medication, names each for the record & also states why she's taking each (stress, panic attacks, etc.) She then asks for the "deposition" to be sealed & it was. That was it in as far as her testimony. I learned a valuable lesson that day.

That was decades ago. She's still drawing managerial pay - though she's never been permitted to manage again - and she's continuing to work from home - for decades.

Posted by: Lola at August 09, 2022 05:41 PM (NIYa7)

397 Posted earlier: there are two parts to the left, DeepState and the Democrat party. Generally they work in concert. But, like Wray, DeepState has a tin ear. This was a tin ear DeepState raid and the Party is unhappy. Posted by: Braenyard at August 09, 2022 05:22 PM (WzJXd)

Three parts: You forgot the Revolution. The Revolution uses the Democrat Party as a front group and the Deep State will pivot to work with the Revolution if it ever takes power, like the Tsar's secret police did, but the Revolution has its own goals.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 09, 2022 05:41 PM (7B5FA)

398 " I like how trump threatening to lock up Hillary was democracy dying in darkness. But actually raiding the home of the previous republican POTUS is a-ok."
Posted by: LizLem

and a big difference, Trump innocent having FBI fabricating "evidence", while Hillary/Biden have tons of evidence ignored and even covered up or destroyed.

It is not just them going after one side and not the other, it is them attacking the innocent, protecting the guilty.

But sure, those parents that didn't like their daughter being raped, that complained to a school board, they deserved an FBI visit (and the lawyer fees?). The doctor woman that police waved into the White House, where she did no damage, deserves her two months in (bad) prison.

Antifa deserves stand down ... and on and on. Not just two tiered, two tiered squared (or whatever)

Posted by: illiniwek at August 09, 2022 05:41 PM (Cus5s)

399 Charleston WV has about a quarter-million in its metro area. They can even name it for Byrd lulz

Posted by: SouthCentralPA at August 09, 2022 05:44 PM (J3OJd)

400 I'd eliminate the EPA.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 09, 2022 04:59 PM (8GBH4)

EPA keeps one job - managing Superfund site cleanups. I worked on Superfund for several years. It's necessary.
Posted by: redchief at August 09, 2022 05:07 PM (LU/A2)

No, kill it. You can't reform an agency that has totally forgotten its function. Make a new agency for superfund cleanup with a narrow and take anyone in the EPA that is doing the cleanup to run it. Fire everyone else.

If you keep the EPA, give it one job they will fire all the Superfund cleanup and keep the criminal and incompetent upper management.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 09, 2022 05:51 PM (eoQWY)

401
_Operation Mockingbird a systematic propaganda campaign with domestic and foreign journalists operating as CIA assets and dozens of US news organizations providing cover for CIA activity
_Project SHAMROCK - major telecommunications companies shared their traffic with the NSA

https://bit.ly/3bD7sA9
Posted by: Braenyard at August 09, 2022 05:32 PM (WzJXd)

I thought they publicized a lot of programs that the public didn't know about in the church hearings.

I'm curious as to where the whistleblowers are? Are they all compromised? worried about their pension? This tells me they either don't have skills that are very marketable in the private sector or the angency/s involved would ruin them and everyone they know.

I know, embrace the power of and.

Posted by: CaliGirl at August 09, 2022 05:51 PM (0Cl6X)

402 OK blonde chick with the gold hot shorts can attack me anytime.

Posted by: Minnfidel at August 09, 2022 05:55 PM (532WG)

403 248 OT: Sierra Skye Miami Swim Week, slow motion
https://youtu.be/w0fwN3LelCo

May contain high heel-fueled jiggly booty walking
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That's terrible, her butt implants bang, her lips are out of proportion, she has no body fat; if fact she looks unnatural.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 09, 2022 05:55 PM (WzJXd)

404 Floppy Buttocks had to have opened for someone, somewhere
Posted by: kraken at August 09, 2022 05:17 PM (Vr12I)

opened for the Crusty Fartclams. Dollhaus, Denver 1991.

Posted by: DaisyB at August 09, 2022 05:59 PM (AbL8c)

405 Wasn't the storied Whorowitz the DOJ "oversight" person, him of the CNN wife and sloppy Fast and Furious outcome?

Posted by: CN, the deer-hater at August 09, 2022 06:00 PM (VuQO/)

406 what's a city with 100,000 or more people that leans red?

Miami. https://bit.ly/3zMza5t

Posted by: Socratease at August 09, 2022 06:09 PM (oqnjT)

407 I would say Tallahassee but it's going to be the Capital of the New United States.

Posted by: blaster at August 09, 2022 06:16 PM (6TxNR)

408 Lafayette, LA is 126k and Mayor Josh Guilory is GOP

Posted by: Hurricane567 at August 09, 2022 06:17 PM (9+eKa)

409 I vote for Pigeon Forge, TN.

Posted by: Angel Artiste at August 09, 2022 06:30 PM (SJ4Xh)

410 I don't even know-- what's a city with 100,000 or more people that leans red?

Springfield, IL. Honest Abe's hometown. Nice symbolism there.

Posted by: Honest Abe at August 09, 2022 07:44 PM (cyhko)

411 All federal trials should be held in Death Valley, out of doors, with no, repeat no, water breaks.

Posted by: aelfheld at August 09, 2022 08:51 PM (Zy9Yy)

412 "I don't even know-- what's a city with 100,000 or more people that leans red?"

Fargo.

Put it in Fargo.

Posted by: C.M. Funk at August 09, 2022 09:04 PM (/Qz4j)

413 I have been saying for years that the first step is to take the personnel in SDNY and move them to North Dakota or Minnesota. True, they did a lot of damage in Michigan between the perverts and fake assassination plots, but it is much better they are in Bismark, or even Buffalo, than NYC.

Posted by: william ferrin at August 09, 2022 10:56 PM (YIiAu)

414 Cities of 100,000 that are red or lean red Fargo, Billings, El Paso....

Posted by: Vince at August 10, 2022 12:59 AM (C8YUB)

415 "soft chubby"

Ace and his weird body issues. Remember when he posted constant updates about trying to lose weight? It was like reading a columnist in a woman's magazine.

Trump supporters should lay off people's weights considering the 300 lb tub of marbled adipose they've been cheering on.

Posted by: Strigine at August 10, 2022 03:04 AM (Nbp2x)

416 considering the 300 lb tub of marbled adipose

Fatass says what?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 10, 2022 08:03 AM (yQpMk)

417 Trump was a massive disappointment. Tremendously better than the alternative, once the primary was over. But now we have a new primary coming up, Trump is no longer the better than the alternative he was before. Pick someone else!

Posted by: astonerii at August 10, 2022 01:48 PM (B9VxK)

418 "We need a Federal Internal Affairs department."
- they will quickly become just another tool to cover up wrongdoing, due to the "Discipline of Constant Dealings"

Posted by: DocMerlin at August 11, 2022 11:44 AM (jRh4q)

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