Guy Who Works From Home: Aren't People Spiritually Sickened By Working from Home?

Malcolm Gladwell, an author who presumably works alone at home: People will be driven by their shabby pajama-clad loneliness from remote work back into the office.

Author Malcolm Gladwell thinks that remote work is hurting society and that a recession will likely drive employees who are "sitting in their pajamas" back into the office.
The bestselling author of "Blink" and "The Tipping Point" grew emotional and shed tears as he told the "Diary of a CEO" podcast hosted by Steven Bartlett that people need to come into the office in order to regain a "sense of belonging" and to feel part of something larger than themselves.
"It's very hard to feel necessary when you're physically disconnected," the Canadian writer said.
"As we face the battle that all organizations are facing now in getting people back into the office, it's really hard to explain this core psychological truth, which is we want you to have a feeling of belonging and to feel necessary."

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"It's not in your best interest to work at home," he said. "I know it's a hassle to come into the office, but if you're just sitting in your pajamas in your bedroom, is that the work life you want to live?"
"Don't you want to feel part of something?"
Gladwell added: "I'm really getting very frustrated with the inability of people in positions of leadership to explain this effectively to their employees."
"If we don't feel like we're part of something important, what's the point?" he said. "If it's just a paycheck, then it's like what have you reduced your life to?"

I think Gladwell is confusing his own job, which has high non-pecuniary rewards (in addition to high pecuniary rewards) such as fame and praise, with the jobs that most people have. I don't know if most people will feel they're "part of something" in their jobs whether they're physically in the office or not.

People tend to feel they're "part of something" in their jobs when they have the kind of jobs that will make women at bars willing to touch their pee-pees.

I'm the wrong person to ask. I'm extremely solitary. I can handle this life. I can handle it so well I do wonder: Wait, is it normal to be this okay with solitude?

What do you think of the general need to be around people? I know that working from home has obvious benefits, especially if you have kids.

But what about just being in a social environment for 9 or 10 hours a day?

I know that without having an office job, I get virtually no exercise whatsoever, which is why, in my particular circumstances, it is desperately needed that I try to walk or hike an hour everyday. Without that, I literally barely move.

My steps are around 900.

Maybe I do need to get out.

Speaking of most people's jobs not providing them with a sense of purpose: People, and I imagine this mostly means Gen Z/Millennials, are barely working at all even when at work.

Quiet quitting: why doing the bare minimum at work has gone global
The meaninglessness of modern work -- and the pandemic -- has led many to question their approach to their jobs

This is from The Guardian, of course. They're always promoting not working and "Luxury Communism."

Bartleby is back, although no doubt he would prefer not to be. This time, Herman Melville's reluctant Wall Street scrivener has returned in the form of TikTokers who have embraced "quiet quitting".
Rather than working late on a Friday evening, organising the annual team-building trip to Slough or volunteering to supervise the boss's teenager on work experience, the quiet quitters are avoiding the above and beyond, the hustle culture mentality, or what psychologists call "occupational citizenship behaviours".
Instead, they are doing just enough in the office to keep up, then leaving work on time and muting Slack. Then posting about it on social media.
Maria Kordowicz, an associate professor in organisational behaviour at the University of Nottingham and director of its centre for interprofessional education and learning, said the rise in quiet quitting is linked to a noticeable fall in job satisfaction.
Gallup's global workplace report for 2022 showed that only 9% of workers in the UK were engaged or enthusiastic about their work, ranking 33rd out of 38 European countries. The NHS staff survey, conducted in the autumn of 2021, showed that morale had fallen from 6.1 out of 10 to 5.8, and staff engagement had dropped from 7.0 to 6.8.
"Since the pandemic, people's relationship with work has been studied in many ways, and the literature typically, across the professions, would argue that, yes, people's way of relating to their work has changed," Kordowicz said.
TikTok posts about quiet quitting may have been inspired by Chinese social media: #TangPing, or lying flat, is a now-censored hashtag apparently prompted by China's shrinking workforce and long-hours culture.
Kordowicz added: "The search for meaning has become far more apparent. There was a sense of our own mortality during the pandemic, something quite existential around people thinking 'What should work mean for me? How can I do a role that's more aligned to my values?'

Ughh. #MuhValues.

You know, you're not necessarily supposed to get #MuhValues reinforced at work.

"I think this has a link to the elements of quiet quitting that are perhaps more negative: mentally checking out from a job, being exhausted from the volume of work and lack of work-life balance that hit many of us during the pandemic.

They're exhausted from a full day of not working.

I will say this: I have both worked and not worked at work, and I can say that not working at work is just as tiring as actually working. Sometimes more so.

You've got to work pretty hard to avoid working. Sometimes you just need to take a break from it and rest up by actually doing some work.

Posted by: Ace at 03:39 PM

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1 Works for me!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 08, 2022 03:40 PM (5pTK/)

2 Uh, yeah, baby.

Posted by: MkY at August 08, 2022 03:41 PM (cPGH3)

3 RIP Olivia Newton John.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 08, 2022 03:41 PM (8GBH4)

4 He looks like an aging lesbian

Posted by: NCKate at August 08, 2022 03:41 PM (2oJif)

5 Groovy, on topic "first!"

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 08, 2022 03:41 PM (5pTK/)

6 Quiet quitting: why doing the bare minimum at work has gone global

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 08, 2022 03:41 PM (DRSnL)

7 Kordowicz added: "The search for meaning has become far more apparent. There was a sense of our own mortality during the pandemic, something quite existential around people thinking 'What should work mean for me? How can I do a role that's more aligned to my values?'

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The search for meaning from your job of drudgery is laughable. I have grown to hate companies that demand culture and community.

I'm here to make the widgets. I just want to make the widget.

This predates my working from home. I was sick of the culture stuff when I realized it was completely empty.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 08, 2022 03:41 PM (LvTSG)

8 Hey Malcom, here's my 'Blink' reaction: Fuck off

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 03:41 PM (XvPQV)

9
work has always sucked, whether toiling in the fields or sitting at an office. it's what you do in your off time that matters

Posted by: brak at August 08, 2022 03:41 PM (j5Tg0)

10 I work harder at home than at work. I need to go to work to take a break.
But my job ain't very physically demanding.

Posted by: MkY at August 08, 2022 03:41 PM (cPGH3)

11 Everybody's working for the weekend. Or not.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 08, 2022 03:42 PM (8GBH4)

12 I'm the wrong person to ask. I'm extremely solitary. I can handle this life. I can handle it so well I do wonder: Wait, is it normal to be this okay with solitude?

You are the exception. I consider myself very introverted, so I too found it easier to work from home than most, but it does become difficult. Most people are simply wired to be around other people, and don't thrive when they don't. Sure, they waste a lot of time socializing at work, but even that serves a purpose.

In short, I largely agree with Malcolm Gladwell.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 08, 2022 03:42 PM (/NCI4)

13 3 RIP Olivia Newton John.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 08, 2022 03:41 PM (8GBH4)

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To ONJ:

https://tinyurl.com/3ref4v5b

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 08, 2022 03:42 PM (LvTSG)

14 Hoser civil servants refusing to go back to office work too...

Irvin Studin @IrvinStudin; 7h
Canada cannot function if the majority of its civil servants are working from home. This is a national absurdity at the heart of Canada's social contract. All civil servants must be back at work, full-time, injecting the massive human energy Canada needs to exit its catastrophes!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 08, 2022 03:42 PM (yikp0)

15 I can only speak for my employer... but we're paying hundreds of workers to work remote. And many of them aren't even in County anymore. Some aren't even in state. All those payroll dollars going out of the local area and being spent out of the local area. And our local leaders wonder why nobody is spending money.

Posted by: Darth Chipmunk at August 08, 2022 03:42 PM (ZC8hN)

16 GOP 2023: We cant fire the 87,000 IRS agents! The agency is overworked and understaffed as it is!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 08, 2022 03:42 PM (R8uWY)

17 16 GOP 2023: We cant fire the 87,000 IRS agents! The agency is overworked and understaffed as it is!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 08, 2022 03:42 PM (R8uWY)

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The only way to fix this is to increase their budget 11% instead of 9%.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 08, 2022 03:43 PM (LvTSG)

18 >>>3 RIP Olivia Newton John.

oh that's too bad!

Posted by: ace at August 08, 2022 03:43 PM (B3oWe)

19 "Quiet quitting: why doing the bare minimum at work has gone global"

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With inflation, people now realize the PTB are pretending to pay them.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 08, 2022 03:43 PM (5pTK/)

20 I've been working from home since 2014, before everyone else did during the chinademic.

Don't miss the office. At all.

Fuck the human race. Get off my lawn.

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Emotionally Supporting Sexy Russian Women Who Have Been Cancelled at August 08, 2022 03:43 PM (VTu1l)

21 >>>Malcolm Gladwell, an author who presumably works alone at home: People will be driven by their shabby pajama-clad loneliness from remote work back into the office.

Except their sex life has never been better.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 08, 2022 03:44 PM (U3uv2)

22 I do think in-person office work is more productive.

But I was FORCED out of the office by COVID hysteria, converted to remote work and now I don't spend up to THREE HOURS a day commuting. I get to spend time with the dog and actually killing blackberries. Most of my team isn't in Seattle anyway, they're in Costa Rica, Brazil, Minneapolis, Austin and New Jersey.

I have friends to fill my 'sense of belonging'.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 03:44 PM (XvPQV)

23 This thing working?

Posted by: Joe Mama at August 08, 2022 03:44 PM (WmGrA)

24 "... the weather may be beyond our control for now but it's not beyond our control..."

Slow Joe on climate change.

https://twitter.com/ViralNewsNYC/status/
1556721838767718400

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 08, 2022 03:44 PM (yikp0)

25 I don't mind working in an office, but like the ability to work from home when I need to focus, or if I have an errand or such. Heck, just if I'm sick I can still sit at a computer at home, rather than burning up a sick day, and I don't spread my crud around the office. What seems to annoy most people is the commute. Spending an hour in stop and go traffic because corporate execs wanted a massive office downtown is miserable. Here in NoVA it seems like a lot of the gov employees are fighting returning to the office for precisely that reason.

As for the "doing nothing" part. The reality is that most work is probably make-work. If you have enough people to handle the busiest times, they're going to be idle a lot of other times. And the government has made it difficult for actual productive businesses to grow and thrive, which means the supporting class of workers are increasingly crammed into "consultant" jobs, or dead-end positions at globocorps.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 08, 2022 03:44 PM (wmDcS)

26 22 I have friends to fill my 'sense of belonging'.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 03:44 PM (XvPQV)

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I go to church and had a family for that.

I go to work to fund my movie problem.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 08, 2022 03:45 PM (LvTSG)

27 Who, other than maybe doctors or rocket engineers, gets some great meaning out of their work? And who on earth wants to socialize with their cow-orkers?? Most of mine are liberal pinheads. I work to get paid, so I can interact with people I actually like.

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp, Ultra Dark MAGA at August 08, 2022 03:45 PM (rWFyW)

28 I have friends to fill my 'sense of belonging'.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water

Me too!

Posted by: Mayo Pete at August 08, 2022 03:45 PM (WmGrA)

29 Olivia Newton John will no longer be getting physical.

RIP

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 08, 2022 03:45 PM (zL564)

30 I "work" from home.

In a typical month, I have maybe a couple of hours of human interaction with someone other than my wife or kid.

I honestly feel like I've gone a bit crazy. People aren't meant to be this isolated.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 08, 2022 03:45 PM (eyxn4)

31 I'm not working at work right now.

Posted by: Dr. T at August 08, 2022 03:45 PM (bhRsz)

32 One thing most of us learned during the lockdown - The essentials of our job don't take 60, or even 50 hours a week.
And we probably don't bring all that much added value to our jobs.
Now we just hope our employers don't figure that out.

Posted by: Wally at August 08, 2022 03:46 PM (FJYfm)

33 What keeps you from double dipping, doing two jobs at once?

Posted by: Skip at August 08, 2022 03:46 PM (k8B25)

34 So, can we add slacking off to the List of Things Millenials Think They Invented?

(It's a long list.)

Posted by: Lance McCormick at August 08, 2022 03:46 PM (l8gTz)

35 27 Who, other than maybe doctors or rocket engineers, gets some great meaning out of their work? And who on earth wants to socialize with their cow-orkers?? Most of mine are liberal pinheads. I work to get paid, so I can interact with people I actually like.
Posted by: MaureenTheTemp, Ultra Dark MAGA at August 08, 2022 03:45 PM (rWFyW)

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I liked the people I worked with in the office. I enjoyed our regular Friday afternoon beer sessions. I liked talking to them. I still talk to some of them even after I've quit the company.

I'm not a work from home acolyte, but it'll take a lot to get me to go back into an office regularly.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 08, 2022 03:46 PM (LvTSG)

36
They're exhausted from a full day of not working.

You sound like our daughter from some years ago.

She had to "take a break" from "taking a break".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 08, 2022 03:46 PM (pNxlR)

37 Your job is not your life. Your job is not your identity. Get better fetishes.

And yes, Ace, lift weights more. Sedentary life is not good. Walking a dog twice a day helps. Plus dogs are awesome.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 03:46 PM (XvPQV)

38 Well when I worked, I had to confer with coworkers, but it was the best kind of confab: staring at a screen, with headphones on, and communicating via e-mail. So minimal actual fleshly interaction. You only had to "interface" when you wanted to goof off.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Iron Fist in Velvet Glove in Iron Gauntlet Clutching an Iron Mace at August 08, 2022 03:46 PM (Dc2NZ)

39 An author who works by himself is telling others to work together in the office?

Makes as much sense as Buttsex running transportation.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 08, 2022 03:46 PM (lTGtQ)

40 Also, it's not the working from home that's the problem, it's how they destroyed every social outlet as well. I used to dance west-coast swing and argentine tango, and the communities were dead for two years. Even today, most groups are still full-on vax and masks.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 08, 2022 03:47 PM (wmDcS)

41 37 Your job is not your life. Your job is not your identity. Get better fetishes.

And yes, Ace, lift weights more. Sedentary life is not good. Walking a dog twice a day helps. Plus dogs are awesome.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 03:46 PM (XvPQV)

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I just did a 10 minute glutes and legs class on Peloton. I hate leg days.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 08, 2022 03:47 PM (LvTSG)

42 Speaking of working from home:
https://twitter.com/ViralNewsNYC/status/
1556716119045689345

nypost.com
'Right-handed man' almost masturbates to death: medical case study
Docs say he's lucky he escaped the ultimate unhappy ending after the near-fatal orgasm ordeal.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 08, 2022 03:47 PM (yikp0)

43 >>>I will say this: I have both worked and not worked at work, and I can say that not working at work is just as tiring as actually working. Sometimes more so.

>>>You've got to work pretty hard to avoid working. Sometimes you just need to take a break from it and rest up by actually doing some work.

Pro-tip: If you power through this slump, the rewards are endless.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 08, 2022 03:47 PM (U3uv2)

44 Surfing porn at work is kinkier because the chance of getting caught is greater.

Posted by: Government Workers at August 08, 2022 03:47 PM (Ii/ys)

45 I do think in-person office work is more productive.

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There's one reason, at least for me why this wasn't true:

Meetings.

Meetings every hour, on the hour, all goddamned day long, every goddamned fucking day of the week. Since remote, I have more autonomy in participating in meetings; I simply don't show up. And since I get a ton more work done as a result, nobody complains.

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Emotionally Supporting Sexy Russian Women Who Have Been Cancelled at August 08, 2022 03:47 PM (VTu1l)

46 In your teens: Fifty friends
In your 20s: Thirty friends
In your 30s: Ten friends
In your 40s: A cat, a dog, and a rifle.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 08, 2022 03:47 PM (44ww/)

47 I'm lucky. I have busy days and lazy days at work. It's nice to mix it up. Some days I'm streaming Netflix, some days I'm working my ass off.

Posted by: Max Power at August 08, 2022 03:47 PM (k7+BO)

48 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 08, 2022 03:47 PM (Zz0t1)

49 All part of the demoralization and destruction of morale that has been ongoing since 2020. Also drive everyone to social media to socialize. Have virtual friends etc etc.

Posted by: Clown world is not good for your mental health at August 08, 2022 03:47 PM (KA+fr)

50 Olivia Newton-John dead?

I better get up and walk around.

Posted by: jwest at August 08, 2022 03:47 PM (/BlEx)

51 I worked from home for many years.
I loved it because it kept me away from the green haired, tattooed, gauged, ritual scarified freak co-workers.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, with capers at August 08, 2022 03:48 PM (jTmQV)

52 33 What keeps you from double dipping, doing two jobs at once?
Posted by: Skip at August 08, 2022 03:46 PM (k8B25)

I worked with a Web Producer who did that (that I know of, I may have worked with more than one). She was shitty at her job, though.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 03:48 PM (XvPQV)

53 Working from home, I have an office and a door. I also get sick much less often.

Posted by: Oblivious at August 08, 2022 03:48 PM (wwMY5)

54 "It's very hard to feel necessary when you're physically disconnected," the Canadian writer said.

Actual work filling my email inbox reminds me I'm necessary.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 08, 2022 03:48 PM (j+4+t)

55 Ace
I'm very solitary as well. I enjoy living alone and not having anyone around to tell me what I should be doing. I'm retired which helps. I do have friends and do go out around some people, coffee shop and deli mostly. I've been in relationships and marriages. Except for one they all ended just like Chernobyl but without the happy ending.
Embrace solitude.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at August 08, 2022 03:48 PM (BbSpR)

56 The meaninglessness of modern work

Its the death of the work ethic that causes this. The work is never meaningless, but your lack of interest and understanding that labor is good in and of its self might make it so. Your attitude is what makes it seem empty.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 03:48 PM (Ivdso)

57 Even WaPo is acknowledging that the enormous amount of money the Dems just voted for climate stuff won't really have much impact. They knew this before, of course, but now they're just retroactively covering their asses for when the whole thing fails spectacularly.

Warning: Hot Air link

https://tinyurl.com/yzrztxwm

Posted by: Archimedes at August 08, 2022 03:48 PM (/NCI4)

58 Make a family. Go to church. Join Kiwanis. Volunteer at the food bank. Get to know your neighbors.
Do all the things that our current, empty, medicated culture said were stupid.

People who find their "sense of belonging" solely at work are to be pittied.

Posted by: 29Victor at August 08, 2022 03:48 PM (BJKQV)

59 49 All part of the demoralization and destruction of morale that has been ongoing since 2020. Also drive everyone to social media to socialize. Have virtual friends etc etc.

Posted by: Clown world is not good for your mental health at August 08, 2022 03:47 PM (KA+fr)

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Theory:

It's actually made people more locally focused because social creatures needed to get their socializing from somewhere if not from work.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 08, 2022 03:48 PM (LvTSG)

60 Work-from-home can be extremely isolating, but anyone who does it also has the choice to not be isolated. You can go out. You can go to a bar, join a club, whatever, and not be isolated. Starting in WFH can make developing relationships with coworkers harder (as opposed to having become work-from-home after the fact). Productivity is a mixed bag.

But the biggest thing that stood out to me is this:
"I know it's a hassle to come into the office, but if you're just sitting in your pajamas in your bedroom, is that the work life you want to live?"

No, it isn't. Don't do that. Working from home is still working. It's still a job. Treat it like one. Get dressed for work. Go to work. If possible, have a space you use *only* for work. If not, then don't mix work and life at the same time in the same space if you can avoid it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2022 03:48 PM (WWh8n)

61 The older I get the less I want to be around people. I'm not talking about friends and family. People in general. I think about all the concerts and races I went to when I was younger. I have no desire really to do that anymore. Dealing with crowds and traffic is just repellent to me now. I like going to IHOP on Saturday evenings for dinner because there are never more than two or three tables occupied. It's wonderful.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 08, 2022 03:48 PM (xPl2J)

62 I used to derive a lot of meaning out of my job.

Then we started using pronouns.

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Emotionally Supporting Sexy Russian Women Who Have Been Cancelled at August 08, 2022 03:48 PM (VTu1l)

63 When did we as a society raise pussies?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 08, 2022 03:49 PM (j+4+t)

64 Meet IRS Agent Beverly Smith, a single mother of 3, barely making ends meet on her GS-13 salary. Her head is literally on the chopping block due to the GOPs threatened draconian cuts to this vital agency. There are tens of thousands more like her, who will likely have to rely on government assistance if the GOP gets its way.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 08, 2022 03:49 PM (R8uWY)

65 And....taking a breath and letting my hate go...rest in Peace ONJ. You were lovely and amazing. You'll live forever young and beautiful as long as movies are viewed.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 03:49 PM (XvPQV)

66 This is from The Guardian, of course. They're always promoting not working

..

Well, they are Brittish, no?

Posted by: I'm super gassy today at August 08, 2022 03:49 PM (9FBGz)

67 Surfing porn at work is kinkier because the chance of getting caught is greater.
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Let me tell you a story 'bout a man named Jeff . . .

Posted by: Toobin that is, beating the bishop at August 08, 2022 03:49 PM (KA+fr)

68 There is a sad lack of appreciation in management for people who have a mastered a skill or craft.

The woke world thinks that bastardizing the language is of a higher priority.

Also, the pay grades reflect the lack of respect. Go, get a migrant from Panama. He's your next worker's comp case. Good luck with that.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 08, 2022 03:49 PM (WHt4f)

69 What keeps you from double dipping, not doing two jobs at once?

Posted by: Skip at August 08, 2022 03:46 PM (k8B25)

Fixed.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 08, 2022 03:49 PM (U3uv2)

70 The Razor's Edge

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 08, 2022 03:49 PM (63Dwl)

71 Now...back to the hate: Fuck Cancer!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 03:49 PM (XvPQV)

72 65 And....taking a breath and letting my hate go...rest in Peace ONJ. You were lovely and amazing. You'll live forever young and beautiful as long as movies are viewed.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 03:49 PM (XvPQV)

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"Yes, darling, that's how it will always work!"
-Norma Desmond

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 08, 2022 03:49 PM (LvTSG)

73
All civil servants must be back at work, full-time, injecting the massive human energy Canada needs to exit its catastrophes!
Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0)

Interesting choice of a word -- "injecting".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 08, 2022 03:49 PM (pNxlR)

74 People who have to find belonging in an office have no family, no friends, and no faith. Honestly, your social life shouldn't be only in your office and should not revolve around it. Your social life should ideally revolve around your home and neighborhood and Church - it's how you build up society to work...

Posted by: Nova local at August 08, 2022 03:50 PM (exHjb)

75 While checking out Olivia Newton John I saw something about Rod Stewart being on his death bed. I have no idea if that's true.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 08, 2022 03:50 PM (rTgbC)

76 Ace, just remember any amount of steps in the triple digits will keep you ahead of Taylor Lorenz.

Posted by: Mishdog at August 08, 2022 03:50 PM (uwW33)

77 IS NOW GLARE FOR ALL SLACKERS, WASTERS OF TIME, HOARDERS AND KULAKS OF ANY DESCRIPTION

ALSO TO REFILL COFFEE MAKER

Posted by: Stakhanovite Miklosov Strelnikov at August 08, 2022 03:50 PM (hXIvZ)

78 Olivia Newton-John dead at 73

Posted by: Neo at August 08, 2022 03:50 PM (RHGPo)

79 Working at work is just as meaningful as working at home because home is where the heart is and work is work so brings its own meaningfulness to the workplace.

Posted by: Kamela Harris, Pence's replacement at August 08, 2022 03:50 PM (Ii/ys)

80 RIP Olivia Newton John. Dammit.

Posted by: jewells45 at August 08, 2022 03:50 PM (nxdel)

81 In a typical month, I have maybe a couple of hours of human interaction with someone other than my wife or kid.
I honestly feel like I've gone a bit crazy. People aren't meant to be this isolated.
Posted by: bonhomme

When all this nonsense hit, I was just a month or two into retirement. I am definitely a people person and I knew I'd drive my long suffering wife batty just talking to her. So, I simply stuck a chair out in the driveway. Lots of folks started to take walks - I started out by simply waving to them. In more than a few cases I made some new friends and most days I chat a bit with a number of folks walking their doggies or other just drop in to say a few words. Great fun for me.

Maybe try something like that.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 08, 2022 03:50 PM (LsEU/)

82 I will say this: I have both worked and not worked at work, and I can say that not working at work is just as tiring as actually working. Sometimes more so.

I literally only do actual work like maybe 10 hours a week. It sucks because it's boring and makes the day go by so slow. I much prefer being busy, but it is what it is.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 08, 2022 03:50 PM (DRSnL)

83 64 Meet IRS Agent Beverly Smith, a single mother of 3, barely making ends meet on her GS-13 salary. Her head is literally on the chopping block due to the GOPs threatened draconian cuts to this vital agency. There are tens of thousands more like her, who will likely have to rely on government assistance if the GOP gets its way.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 08, 2022 03:49 PM (R8uWY)

Fap...fap....fap...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 03:50 PM (XvPQV)

84 I work a lot harder in the office than I do when I try to work remotely.

And regarding the phenomenon of "quiet quitting": There is certainly something going on. It's not just a generational thing (although I think that's a part of it.) There's an attitude that's much more widespread than ever before -- people take no pride in their performance, and do the bare minimum to keep from getting fired.

In the past, I'd just fire these puds and replace them, but with record-low workforce participation, there's no one to hire. Machine shops advertise $20+ per hour to start with no experience, and they can't fill positions.

I blame pot-marijuana. Partly, at least. That and the indoctrination of younger generations, and even some of the older people, that's made them detest and resent their employer, and the notion of work generally.

Posted by: Pastafarian at August 08, 2022 03:50 PM (JKwSi)

85 I've long not cared for the "work family" nonsense.

No, work is work, family is family.

I even avoided talking shop outside of work, because, well, it was work.

A lot of the best work I did was at home, free of distractions. I was working on a bunch of scripting projects and just did not need the distraction of other people.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 08, 2022 03:50 PM (5pTK/)

86 If the Corportista required me to go back to the office I'd tell them to go fuck themselves.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 08, 2022 03:50 PM (m7R0k)

87 83 64 Meet IRS Agent Beverly Smith, a single mother of 3, barely making ends meet on her GS-13 salary. Her head is literally on the chopping block due to the GOPs threatened draconian cuts to this vital agency. There are tens of thousands more like her, who will likely have to rely on government assistance if the GOP gets its way.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 08, 2022 03:49 PM (R8uWY)

Fap...fap....fap...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 03:50 PM (XvPQV)

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She's not even hot, Mark.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 08, 2022 03:51 PM (LvTSG)

88 If you have grown up thinking the world revolves around your special chosen one self, your happiness, and your feelings, then yeah having to earn your way in life feels like some sort of oppression.

If you grew up a normal, sane person, then you'll understand that what get in life is what you've earned and worked for, beating and clawing at life until you get it. And sometimes you never do. But nobody, anywhere owes you a damned thing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 03:51 PM (Ivdso)

89 [ii]Maria Kordowicz, an associate professor in organisational behaviour at the University of Nottingham and director of its centre for interprofessional education and learning, said the rise in quiet quitting is linked to a noticeable fall in job satisfaction.

I bet there's a nontrivial link between the fall in OVERALL LIFE satisfaction and the rise in the number of "professors in organisational behaviour" who run "centres for interprofessional education and learning", too.

Posted by: Hands at August 08, 2022 03:51 PM (786Ro)

90 Elon Musk embraced quiet quitting and work from home. He said, come back to the office and work or go somewhere else and not work.

He gave them until the end of the week to decide.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 08, 2022 03:51 PM (sP+u8)

91 I will say working from home has taken a real toll on personal hygiene.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 08, 2022 03:51 PM (es0Dj)

92 GS-13 government employees will receive a base salary of between $81,216.00 and $105,579.00, depending on their General Schedule Step

Posted by: Neo at August 08, 2022 03:52 PM (RHGPo)

93 Well, this is happening, as I predicted.

Varad Mehta
@varadmehta

Least surprising thing in the world how quickly the NeverTrumpers are becoming NeverDeSantis. But they were already mostly NeverRepublican, so the surprise would be in they supported anyone who wasn't Liz Cheney or Larry Hogan.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 08, 2022 03:52 PM (ptqGC)

94 I work from home with occasional forays into the local office. I'll admit that I do my job and that is it. Wasted too many years going the extra mile for work only to get kicked in the nuts when a company would run into trouble, usually because of incompetent leadership.

So now, I put on a pollo shirt, shorts, and slippers then grab my coffee and go to work.

Posted by: Beartooth at August 08, 2022 03:52 PM (+ksY7)

95 Didn't know that ONJ had breast cancer since 1992.

Posted by: Ceylon at August 08, 2022 03:52 PM (HKku6)

96 Do you know what makes an office setting productive? Random people interrupting your work to tell you about the sportsball game you don't care about, or their cat's latest hairball. That is, when they aren't trying to sell you some crap for their kid's school. Add that to an hour of miserable traffic each way, every day you go in.

I am able to get twice as much done each day if I am home that day.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 08, 2022 03:52 PM (lTGtQ)

97 When did we as a society raise pussies?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 08, 2022 03:49 PM (j+4+t)

I'm going with millennials, their trigger words, their safe spaces, their microaggressions, and their participation trophies.

It's amazing what you see out there these days with their kids and parenting.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 08, 2022 03:52 PM (U3uv2)

98 93 Varad Mehta
@varadmehta

Least surprising thing in the world how quickly the NeverTrumpers are becoming NeverDeSantis. But they were already mostly NeverRepublican, so the surprise would be in they supported anyone who wasn't Liz Cheney or Larry Hogan.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 08, 2022 03:52 PM (ptqGC)

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I thought their problems with Trump were his character. They promised me that their problems with Trump were his character.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 08, 2022 03:52 PM (LvTSG)

99 Done a number now of office buildings putting all kinds of amenities, kitchens, bathroom upgrades, conference rooms, all kinds of things and no one is in them.

Posted by: Skip at August 08, 2022 03:53 PM (k8B25)

100 No, it isn't. Don't do that. Working from home is still working. It's still a job. Treat it like one. Get dressed for work. Go to work. If possible, have a space you use *only* for work.

Correct. treat it like a job, not a reluctant imposition on your special self. Dress for it. Schedule for it. Focus on doing the job. Get it done and move to the next task. Don't treat it like its something you do on the side of your real life. This IS real life.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 03:53 PM (Ivdso)

101 "I used to dance west-coast swing and argentine tango..."
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 08, 2022 03:47 PM (wmDcS)

I always wanted to learn to tango, just so I could wear the hats.

Posted by: jwest at August 08, 2022 03:53 PM (/BlEx)

102 The commute is the problem for most white and pink collar jobs. It's expensive, boring, dangerous, and a time-suck. They keep screwing with daylight hours so that a wall of black or grizzlel grey is all you ever see for 4-5 mos of the year.

Who would choose it if they could do the same work without the commute?

Posted by: SarahW at August 08, 2022 03:53 PM (g1vnC)

103 I am glad to be back in the office. I worked a lot more hours at home because working from home for a long period of tine tends to erase the difference between home and work. I can now confine work to the office.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 08, 2022 03:53 PM (ppBhU)

104 Today I achieved unprecedented levels of unverifiable productivity.

-- my hero Wally from Dilbert
(Spoiler: Wally was IN the office )

Posted by: Hands at August 08, 2022 03:53 PM (786Ro)

105 The older I get the less I want to be around people. I'm not talking about friends and family. People in general. I think about all the concerts and races I went to when I was younger. I have no desire really to do that anymore. Dealing with crowds and traffic is just repellent to me now. I like going to IHOP on Saturday evenings for dinner because there are never more than two or three tables occupied. It's wonderful.
Posted by: Mark1971

Fist bump! And I include family and friends. Most are fucking stoopid.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 08, 2022 03:53 PM (j+4+t)

106 Was ONJ fully vaxxed? Cuz that seems a bit young to kick.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 08, 2022 03:53 PM (Zz0t1)

107 Remember this guy?

AmishDude
@TheAmishDude

I have always regarded Trump as a black swan and it was his character that was the problem.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 08, 2022 03:53 PM (ptqGC)

108 Meet IRS Agent Beverly Smith, a single mother of 3, barely making ends meet on her GS-13 salary. Her head is literally on the chopping block due to the GOPs threatened draconian cuts to this vital agency.

********

Agent Smith

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Emotionally Supporting Sexy Russian Women Who Have Been Cancelled at August 08, 2022 03:54 PM (VTu1l)

109 I think I'd make a good lighthouse keeper.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 08, 2022 03:54 PM (Y5qcH)

110 Except for a few, I hate Congress with the burning power of a 1000 suns.

Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at August 08, 2022 03:54 PM (2WtRf)

111 When did we as a society raise pussies?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 08, 2022 03:49

The manbun was the first sign.

Posted by: I'm super gassy today at August 08, 2022 03:54 PM (9FBGz)

112 If we chopped off government workers heads with a guillotine one every 5 minutes we would literally never run out of them.

Posted by: torabora at August 08, 2022 03:54 PM (Ii/ys)

113 I'm an introvert who doesn't like working from home

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 08, 2022 03:54 PM (rTgbC)

114 >>>'Right-handed man' almost masturbates to death: medical case study

i was told i would win a new car

Posted by: ace at August 08, 2022 03:54 PM (B3oWe)

115 107 Remember this guy?

AmishDude
@TheAmishDude

I have always regarded Trump as a black swan and it was his character that was the problem.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 08, 2022 03:53 PM (ptqGC)

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I bet he thought it was great when Nazis started getting punched.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 08, 2022 03:54 PM (LvTSG)

116
RIP Jill St John

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at August 08, 2022 03:54 PM (TldeD)

117 She's not even hot, Mark.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 08, 2022 03:51 PM (LvTSG)

Her getting fired due to a change in government is the turn on.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 03:54 PM (XvPQV)

118 Yes, Skip, I notice the same thing. Massive construction projects, obviously not residential.
Not a soul in them but janitors and security.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, with capers at August 08, 2022 03:54 PM (jTmQV)

119 What do you think of the general need to be around people? I know that working from home has obvious benefits, especially if you have kids.

But what about just being in a social environment for 9 or 10 hours a day?

I'm an engineer and I live the stereotype. I hate being around people, and I really hated when I used to have to manage them. What part of "you are here to work and nobody wants to listen to stories of your Basset Hounds for 30-40 minutes every stinking morning" don't you get? Between my age and Covid I am now down to just myself here in the office and I'm perfectly content.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at August 08, 2022 03:54 PM (1AlSK)

120 Olivia Newton John's passing hits different.

Hard to believe she was 73...why am I feeling she was too young to be 73?

Posted by: Miss Issippi at August 08, 2022 03:54 PM (sI15f)

121 32 One thing most of us learned during the lockdown - The essentials of our job don't take 60, or even 50 hours a week.
And we probably don't bring all that much added value to our jobs.
Now we just hope our employers don't figure that out.

Where I work, we went on an alternating week off, week on model. Full pay on the off-weeks, which was great, except--

I still had to do basically the same amount of work. Which, yes, was less than 40 hours a week, but not lots less.

So I'd arrive on Monday, spend through Tuesday or so catching up on the past week, then catching up on the current week, and then cramming as much as I could into Friday.

It wasn't great. Now, if I'd been able to take halfdays and work every week, sure, that would've been better. Or Tuesday and Thursday off one week, then Monday and Wednesday (or whatever) off the next, those would've been fine.

Anyway, it was dumb, the whole thing was dumb, and I wasn't really able to enjoy it. So I'm still a little bitter on a lot of things.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at August 08, 2022 03:54 PM (l8gTz)

122 "It's very hard to feel necessary when you're physically disconnected," the Canadian writer said.

---------

"You're not doing it right!" -- Toobin, on a workday afternoon ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 08, 2022 03:54 PM (41cY4)

123 I left retail to work from home. I have never looked back with regret. Love my job. I did miss having co-workers. To replace that void I started volunteering as an assistant football coach at the local HS.

Posted by: hubcap at August 08, 2022 03:54 PM (uunKv)

124 117 She's not even hot, Mark.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 08, 2022 03:51 PM (LvTSG)

Her getting fired due to a change in government is the turn on.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 03:54 PM (XvPQV)

==========

Yeah, but still...pancake titties.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 08, 2022 03:54 PM (LvTSG)

125 Another overlooked positive about remote working:

My 7 year car only has 30,000 miles on it

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Emotionally Supporting Sexy Russian Women Who Have Been Cancelled at August 08, 2022 03:55 PM (VTu1l)

126 PPP but also legally qualified for loan forgiveness.
Did I mention the loan forgiveness was tax free?

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at August 08, 2022 03:06 PM (53oGX)

My boss. Though not $900K, best year with two businesses. And beaucoup PPP $$$$. Asked him about bonuses and raises. He replied "Both?"

Bitches about a Suburban costing $100K.

Wonder why boomers are leaving the work force?
Posted by: Golfman at August 08, 2022 03:44 PM (zb5B0)

Quiet quitting: why doing the bare minimum at work has gone global.

Posted by: Golfman at August 08, 2022 03:55 PM (zb5B0)

127 Her head is literally on the chopping block due to the GOPs threatened draconian cuts to this vital agency.

How I despise Millennial writing.

Her head is LITERALLY on the chopping block. As in she's lying down with her head on a piece of shaped wood and a guy with an axe is looming over her. She's about to have her head cut off with spurting blood as her dying heart pumps its last spasms of... no? Not like that?

Then its not literally, you hack.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 03:55 PM (Ivdso)

128 The Left failing at making "Dork Brandon" a meme:
https://nitter.net/SteveGuest/status/
1556440961856708609#m

Christina Pushaw 🐊 @ChristinaPushaw; 4h
Why would a White House Deputy Press Secretary post a meme of his boss with a Nazi symbol in the background?

https://nitter.net/ChristinaPushaw/status/
1556659712405413894#m

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 08, 2022 03:55 PM (yikp0)

129 The commute is the problem for most white and pink collar jobs. It's expensive, boring, dangerous, and a time-suck. They keep screwing with daylight hours so that a wall of black or grizzlel grey is all you ever see for 4-5 mos of the year.

Who would choose it if they could do the same work without the commute?

Posted by: SarahW

Since my daily commute is 160 miles round trip, I would gladly WFH five days a week if I could.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 08, 2022 03:55 PM (j+4+t)

130 If possible, have a space you use *only* for work. If not, then don't mix work and life at the same time in the same space if you can avoid it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2022 03:48 PM (WWh8n)

Wise words.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 08, 2022 03:55 PM (U3uv2)

131
I am able to get twice as much done each day if I am home that day.
Posted by: Thomas Paine

OT: just a note to thank you for answering my question regarding the source of the stuttering parrot story element in the book thread a couple of weeks back. That indeed was the tale I vaguely recalled.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 08, 2022 03:55 PM (pNxlR)

132 "People tend to feel they're "part of something" in their jobs when they have the kind of jobs that will make women at bars willing to touch their pee-pees."

Women at bars sometimes do that? Huh...

"Maybe I do need to get out."

Nah, it's scary out there.

Posted by: Thrawn at August 08, 2022 03:55 PM (Rl7KJ)

133
The manbun was the first sign.
Posted by: I'm super gassy today at August 08, 2022 03:54 PM (9FBGz)

Style guide says that's a douche knot.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 08, 2022 03:55 PM (Zz0t1)

134 Meet IRS Agent Beverly Smith, a single mother of 3, barely making ends meet on her GS-13 salary. Her head is literally on the chopping block due to the GOPs threatened draconian cuts to this vital agency. There are tens of thousands more like her, who will likely have to rely on government assistance if the GOP gets its way.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

Fuck the bitch

Posted by: Lois Lerner, at her other beach house at August 08, 2022 03:55 PM (hXIvZ)

135 I just recently started going back to the office 2 days a week. Thought I would hate it but have been surprised how pleasant it is. There are still a bunch of folks out, so it's not too crowded, but a change of scenery is nice. Don't really want to go more than 2 days, though, that's enough for me what with gas prices and inflation on clothes/food. Jammies are cheaper than office garb.

Posted by: She Hobbit at August 08, 2022 03:56 PM (ftFVW)

136 For those of you who can do remote work, it's super easy to take a second remote work job.

Did it for the last 2 years.

Because yes, most people barely work.
The old 80/20 rule--20% of the staff is doing 80% of the work.
You can slip down to 50% and still do more than most.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 08, 2022 03:56 PM (hK7/g)

137 I know this has been linked before, but it's a great dystopian short story -- about a hive society where everyone works in a small cell that also doubles as their apartment/home -- "The Machine Stops," by E.M. Forster (yes that one):

https://is.gd/HVdaq0

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at August 08, 2022 03:56 PM (PiwSw)

138 No, no, no, don't think of it as work. The whole point is just to enjoy yourself.

Posted by: Otter at August 08, 2022 03:56 PM (2CExO)

139 Who, other than maybe doctors or rocket engineers, gets some great meaning out of their work?

Scientists. You have to chase them out of the lab.

And who on earth wants to socialize with their cow-orkers??

And most of them are very smart, so at least they often have something interesting to say. Every day was a challenge.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 08, 2022 03:56 PM (/NCI4)

140 When all this nonsense hit, I was just a month or two into retirement. I am definitely a people person and I knew I'd drive my long suffering wife batty just talking to her. So, I simply stuck a chair out in the driveway. Lots of folks started to take walks - I started out by simply waving to them. In more than a few cases I made some new friends and most days I chat a bit with a number of folks walking their doggies or other just drop in to say a few words. Great fun for me.

Maybe try something like that.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 08, 2022 03:50 PM (LsEU/)

Yeah, I have a dog walker who I see about 2-3 times a week on my walks and we chat for 5-10 minutes and catch up every time we are out at the same time. People who need connection in your neighborhoods will chat and make bonds with you if you go out and look. It's natural...

Posted by: Nova local at August 08, 2022 03:56 PM (exHjb)

141 >>>34 So, can we add slacking off to the List of Things Millenials Think They Invented?

I think they did perfect it, though.

I hear stories. I hear stories.

Posted by: ace at August 08, 2022 03:56 PM (B3oWe)

142 Agent Smith
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Emotionally Supporting Sexy Russian Women Who Have Been Cancelled at August 08, 2022 03:54 PM (VTu1l)

Never fear...Smith is here!

Posted by: Boswell at August 08, 2022 03:56 PM (+Cgut)

143 His analysis was a psychological thing not a spiritual one.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 08, 2022 03:56 PM (wvo9L)

144 Her head is LITERALLY on the chopping block. As in she's lying down with her head on a piece of shaped wood and a guy with an axe is looming over her. She's about to have her head cut off with spurting blood as her dying heart pumps its last spasms of... no? Not like that?

Then its not literally, you hack.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 03:55 PM (Ivdso)
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It's literally even better when said millenial literally uptalks "literally."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 08, 2022 03:56 PM (5pTK/)

145 106 Was ONJ fully vaxxed? Cuz that seems a bit young to kick.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 08, 2022 03:53 PM (Zz0t1)

Cancer

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 03:56 PM (XvPQV)

146 137 I know this has been linked before, but it's a great dystopian short story -- about a hive society where everyone works in a small cell that also doubles as their apartment/home -- "The Machine Stops," by E.M. Forster (yes that one):

https://is.gd/HVdaq0
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at August 08, 2022 03:56 PM (PiwSw)

So the future world the Dems are working on for us

Posted by: It's me donna at August 08, 2022 03:57 PM (bs+z0)

147 Posted by: Mark1971

I feel the same way. I truly just abhor people most days. lol!

Posted by: jewells45 at August 08, 2022 03:57 PM (nxdel)

148 Olivia Newton John's passing hits different.

Hard to believe she was 73...why am I feeling she was too young to be 73?
Posted by: Miss Issippi

Because she was still beautiful.
Not some old crone.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 08, 2022 03:57 PM (j+4+t)

149 I think they did perfect it, though.

They ain't got nothing on us Gen X when it comes to slacknitude

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 03:57 PM (Ivdso)

150 I've long since stopped feeling a "part of something" since the 2008 recession and the Milk Chocolate Messiah's "leadership" of the slowest economic recovery since the Great Depression.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at August 08, 2022 03:57 PM (TNyrE)

151 I think I'd make a good lighthouse keeper.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 08, 2022 03:54 PM (Y5qcH)
++++
That would be good for your dating life. Chicks dig men who do bit of light housekeeping.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2022 03:57 PM (WWh8n)

152 " I worked from home for many years.
I loved it because it kept me away from the green haired, tattooed, gauged, ritual scarified freak co-workers."

Same, it's only gotten worse since the last time I worked regularly in an 'office'. Don't miss it, don't ever want it back. Go years without even catching a cold.

Posted by: DaveX64 at August 08, 2022 03:57 PM (GeysU)

153 "Quiet quitting: why doing the bare minimum at work has gone global"

We're (or they're) still in the soft times of local civilization. When the hard times come, hard men will thrive. These softies will perish.

We've coasted as a nation (or the Western world has) on our forefathers' toil. But that inertia will cease, probably sooner than later and certainly before "we're" ready. When the US$ crashes and becomes toilet paper, a whole lot of people will experience pain they've never before fathomed. The concept of bare minimum work will vaporize just like their attitudes.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at August 08, 2022 03:57 PM (aXxgO)

154 Posted by: Tonypete at August 08, 2022 03:50 PM (LsEU/)

I think that's great!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 08, 2022 03:57 PM (wvo9L)

155 Meet IRS Agent Beverly Smith,

Meet my BIL, a career IRS employee. 50 yo bachelor who lives with his mother. He is an proud communist.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 08, 2022 03:57 PM (m7R0k)

156 I have Feelz

Posted by: Malcolm Gladwell at August 08, 2022 03:57 PM (786Ro)

157 30 to 35 years ago I worked in organizations where there were a lot of fun and interesting people and I didn't mind being in the office. More recently I worked in iron foundries, and that was at least interesting. But now I am very jaded and I work mostly with people I don't particularly care for. I have been working almost entirely at home since March 2020 and am surprised at how much I prefer it. I won't like it if they make me come back full time.

Posted by: IronDave at August 08, 2022 03:58 PM (k3crU)

158 I've written before that I've had multiple people confess/brag that since WFH started they can blast out all of their work for the day which is roughly two hours by knuckling down and concentrating without distractions. They're motivated to do this because they get the remaining six hours plus time allotted for commuting to do whatever they want - afternoon delight with the Mrs., fingerpaint with their kids (whom they now know) etc.

My surmise is that "Parkinson's Law" was in effect in most workplaces - "work expands to fill the time allotted to perform it" such that maybe six or more hours in most people's days are just b.s. makework and looking busy so you don't get more tasks assigned.

It's no wonder that people who can work from home have become accustomed to it, and are fighting having to spend 40 plus hours per week with people they can barely stand rather than their spouses and kids.

Posted by: Alec Leamas (working from home) at August 08, 2022 03:58 PM (Z5J+g)

159 For those of you who can do remote work, it's super easy to take a second remote work job. Did it for the last 2 years.

*************

And suddenly that "superb" job growth figure released in the midst of a recession starts to have new meaning...

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Emotionally Supporting Sexy Russian Women Who Have Been Cancelled at August 08, 2022 03:58 PM (VTu1l)

160 I definitely don't miss commuting, since people drive like the car is stolen (possible) or as if they are in a video game.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, with capers at August 08, 2022 03:58 PM (jTmQV)

161 97 When did we as a society raise pussies?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 08, 2022 03:49 PM (j+4+t)

When the Boomers decided that the best thing you could do for your kid was to artifical boost their self-esteem. Every kid gets a trophy, no kid gets yelled at or criticized. It was easier than actually parenting.

Posted by: 29Victor at August 08, 2022 03:58 PM (BJKQV)

162 I'm in a place where the guys I work for let me do pretty much whatever I want. Work from the office, work from home, work from the farm, whatever. I like to go into the office about 3 days a week for a few hours to make sure my name is still on my office, see if any junk mail has been slid under the door, and goof off with the admins. I also dress a little nicer than is necessary at least one of those days.
I'm pretty lucky and like my work and many of my colleagues. For years I had planned to retire early, but at this point I'd be completely stupid to leave. Anyhow, that's the Story of Weasel.
The End

Posted by: Weasel at August 08, 2022 03:58 PM (0IeYL)

163 I think I'd make a good lighthouse keeper.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 08, 2022 03:54 PM (Y5qcH)

***

Same... or a Park Ranger in the Superior National Forest

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 08, 2022 03:58 PM (flINI)

164 Hard to believe she was 73...why am I feeling she was too young to be 73?
Posted by: Miss Issippi

Because most of us Morons are too old to be 29.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 08, 2022 03:58 PM (LsEU/)

165 I'm self employed but I go into the office because I can't get shit done at home.

It's in the office where the magic happens, like this comment.

Also, Malcolm Gladwell is full of shit. If you want an exercise in frustration, listen to one of his podcasts in which he takes a firm position on an issue, spends an hour babbling about it, and eventually undermines his own point. You could write a build a semester long undergrad logic class on his failures.

Posted by: Xander Crews at August 08, 2022 03:58 PM (MpOGS)

166 Was ONJ fully vaxxed? Cuz that seems a bit young to kick.
Posted by: Sponge

Fought breast cancer for 30 years.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 08, 2022 03:58 PM (j+4+t)

167 Worth noting that for those of us millennial and younger the dysfunctional, Dilbertian corporate bureaucracy that pervades the 21st century economy is not an aberration tacked on the end of our careers, it's literally the only thing we've ever known. Most of us were still in grade school when Office Space was released.

But yeah, sure, huge mystery why young people don't want to put in lots of extra hours. Just think of all the fractional stars on our digital performance reviews we're missing out on!

Posted by: CppThis at August 08, 2022 03:58 PM (UewuT)

168 I'm fine with quiet quitting, so long as the choice is made with open eyes and realistic expectations. The job cares nothing for you and the company will axe you the moment it makes sense for the company. Most people don't have careers in any real sense; investing extra effort in a job only makes sense if there is some payoff. The problem is that the generations younger than Generation X grew up in relative wealth and luxury, and they seem to think they can have everything their parents have without putting in the corresponding work. That's not realistic.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 08, 2022 03:58 PM (ppBhU)

169 What are chances a IRS agent actually pays all their taxes?

Posted by: Skip at August 08, 2022 03:59 PM (k8B25)

170 Meet my BIL, a career IRS employee. 50 yo bachelor who lives with his mother. He is an proud communist.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 08, 2022 03:57 PM (m7R0k)

So he's armed and ready to rumble. Right? My husband is looking forward to the IRS coming to his business and trying to find whatever they can to destroy him. There's nothing to find, but that has never stopped the IRS.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 08, 2022 03:59 PM (ptqGC)

171 I liked Olivia

Posted by: DB at August 08, 2022 03:59 PM (geLO8)

172 I mostly worked remotely in '20 and '21. Did all right, mostly, but I tended to get distracted by things and would thus work into the evening hours to keep up.

I get more done at the office, but the downside to that is the drive, and sometimes the cow-orkers are annoying.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, A Pox on Your Minkey at August 08, 2022 03:59 PM (xPJvm)

173 Man, it never gets old hearing these modern-day mediocrities pad their do nothing jobs and empty lives with busy work fortune cookie level observations.

The work environment this weak little sissy is weeping about is an artificiality that's only been around for a minute fraction of the blink of an eye in humanity's time on the planet. On top of that it's also only shared by a fraction of the total workforce in this country, most of it involving work that has nothing to do with keeping the country operating.

My entry into the corporate world was back in the late 80s and I literally had to explain to people explicitly to their face then that if I'm in the office with you 50 to 60 hours a week, I have less than zero desire to go out after work or to get together on the weekend.

Posted by: Azathoth at August 08, 2022 03:59 PM (wb1YC)

174 Yeah, but still...pancake titties.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 08, 2022 03:54 PM (LvTSG)

I can close my eyes and imagine Hannah Palmer in an undersized swimsuit is doing the firing.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 03:59 PM (XvPQV)

175 Since my daily commute is 160 miles round trip, I would gladly WFH five days a week if I could.
Posted by: rickb223
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About 120-140 miles a day for the hubby.

But electricians can't work from home, so...

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 08, 2022 03:59 PM (sH61M)

176 Who, other than maybe doctors or rocket engineers, gets some great meaning out of their work?

There's plenty of meaning to be found from other work. Solving a mystery of why a car engine won't start, finishing the installation of a refrigeration system, drawing an advertisement for a household product, or even simply managing to keep your department need and orderly despite a rush of customers.

It shouldn't be the sum total of your life, but there is some meaning in it.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 08, 2022 03:59 PM (wmDcS)

177
I learned not to be a social person at work. If you're not talking business, you shouldn't be talking. They're your co-workers, not your friends.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 08, 2022 04:00 PM (1Nxff)

178 >>>They ain't got nothing on us Gen X when it comes to slacknitude

buzzzzz.

Posted by: ace at August 08, 2022 04:00 PM (B3oWe)

179
Because yes, most people barely work.
The old 80/20 rule--20% of the staff is doing 80% of the work.
You can slip down to 50% and still do more than most.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice

Or as it's often stated in military terms, the way to run a good staff section is to find the one or two soldiers who aren't totally incompetent and work them to death.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 08, 2022 04:00 PM (n+4am)

180 Meet IRS Agent Beverly Smith, a single mother of 3
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

Meet IRS Agent Beverly Smith, a never married, single mother of 3

FIFY

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at August 08, 2022 04:00 PM (HoTpl)

181 ONJ was one of the most beautiful women in the world. Seemed like a sweetheart as well.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, A Pox on Your Minkey at August 08, 2022 04:00 PM (xPJvm)

182 I've always enjoyed working Never had the opportunity to wfh.

I would have gone nuts had I not been able to come to work for the last two years.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 08, 2022 04:00 PM (k+EOy)

183 They ain't got nothing on us Gen X when it comes to slacknitude
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lol

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 08, 2022 04:00 PM (sH61M)

184 in the form of TikTokers who have embraced "quiet quitting".

I'll fix that Real Soon Now.

Posted by: Biden's Recession! at August 08, 2022 04:00 PM (I2/tG)

185 Then its not literally, you hack.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 03:55 PM (Ivdso)

It's my truth, h8r.

- millennial writer

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 08, 2022 04:01 PM (DRSnL)

186 Then its not literally, you hack.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 03:55 PM (Ivdso)

Trying to break my kids of that. They plead childhood.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 08, 2022 04:01 PM (U3uv2)

187 So he's armed and ready to rumble. Right?

He's a fat douchebag with a CPA. He's a freak.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 08, 2022 04:01 PM (m7R0k)

188 "finishing the installation of a refrigeration system"

I do like a well bent tube.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 08, 2022 04:01 PM (Y5qcH)

189 >I learned not to be a social person at work. If you're not talking business, you shouldn't be talking. They're your co-workers, not your friends.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

and one or two will rat you out for smoking in a non-smoking area OUTSIDE

Posted by: DB at August 08, 2022 04:01 PM (geLO8)

190 Because I am older and also don't have the technical ability to do that I would loathe online worship services. I need to be with people in person. It's not that I don't send out e-mails or don't call or text, but worship is horrible when you are the only person there being filmed. I know that because during the beginning of Covid FenSpouse filmed me doing an abbreviated worship service and put it on our website.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 08, 2022 04:01 PM (wvo9L)

191 I do like a well bent tube.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 08, 2022 04:01 PM (Y5qcH)

***

How YOU doin'...

Posted by: Billy Jeff from Chapaqua at August 08, 2022 04:02 PM (flINI)

192 Totally off topic...

My grandson was recruited last week for a baseball team that's headquartered 75 miles away from our town. They have paid coaches, their own van and serious sponsors. Apparently, they practice all year, taking 4 week breaks at certain intervals. My grandson is just about to enter the 7th grade.

I've never heard of this before. Isn't this a bit young to be that serious about sports?

Posted by: jwest at August 08, 2022 04:02 PM (/BlEx)

193 185 Then its not literally, you hack.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 03:55 PM (Ivdso)

It's my truth, h8r.

- millennial writer
Posted by: Jordan61 at August 08, 2022 04:01 PM (DRSnL)

Word.

Posted by: Hampster Girl at August 08, 2022 04:03 PM (PiwSw)

194 Anyway, IMO a hybrid solution is the right way to go. Lots of people have lots of valid reasons for not wanting to have a daily commute (starting with the fact that most of the skilled jobs are clustered around expensive and increasingly lawless blue shitholes), but a longer drive 2-3 days a week is much more palatable. This still provides the purported social benefits of office culture while offering much more flexibility in where employees live and what they can do with their free time.

And it'll vary based on occupation too, of course. For instance, embedded software guys like me need regular access to the machines in the lab whereas pure software guys could do it on Mars. The upshot here is flexibility, really, and moving away from the one size fits all bureaucratic model that I touched on in my previous post.

Posted by: CppThis at August 08, 2022 04:03 PM (UewuT)

195 Malcolm Gladwell, an author who presumably works alone at home: People will be driven by their shabby pajama-clad loneliness from remote work back into the office.

Except their sex life has never been better.

Yes sir!

Posted by: Jeffery Toobin at August 08, 2022 04:03 PM (Vu7A1)

196 I've been working 100% remote for the past three years and I fucking hate it. And I'm a pretty strong introvert. I never wanted to work remote but had to give in as it was too hard to find tech jobs locally that were in person. My job now especially sucks as I only interact with one person and he's a foreigner that I have a difficult time communicating with... just because you know English perfectly doesn't mean you can convey the non-verbal queues and other subtleties of language to understand each other efficiently.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 08, 2022 04:03 PM (kfRGj)

197 Olivia Neutron Bomb

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at August 08, 2022 04:03 PM (kPy0C)

198 I've never heard of this before. Isn't this a bit young to be that serious about sports?
Posted by: jwest at August 08, 2022 04:02 PM (/BlEx)

It's gotten crazy because parents see it as a ticket to college on a full-ride scholarship.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 08, 2022 04:03 PM (wmDcS)

199 My grandson was recruited last week for a baseball team that's headquartered 75 miles away from our town. They have paid coaches, their own van and serious sponsors. Apparently, they practice all year, taking 4 week breaks at certain intervals. My grandson is just about to enter the 7th grade.

I've never heard of this before. Isn't this a bit young to be that serious about sports?
Posted by: jwest at August 08, 2022 04:02 PM (/BlEx)

Not if you want to be great. Most top performing athletes were in training well before 7th grade.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 04:03 PM (XvPQV)

200 Dear God.

The two gay "husbands" who adopted two young brothers and then used them in gay porn?

This crazy bitch is defending them:

@LauraKellyMD

Also, I would look at where the boys were coming from. Maybe their birth families were worse in their physical, emotional, spiritual and psychological abuse. The boys could have been better off with loving sexual relationships. (Main problem is when they grow up and want romance)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 08, 2022 04:03 PM (ptqGC)

201 My entry into the corporate world was back in the late 80s and I literally had to explain to people explicitly to their face then that if I'm in the office with you 50 to 60 hours a week, I have less than zero desire to go out after work or to get together on the weekend.

I used to hear about the Japanese and Korean workers who put in ungodly hours, which is true, but what is rarely noted is that their productivity is comparatively low. I assume that's because much of their time is spent doing things that don't really contribute to the bottom line, like drinking after hours with the boss. It's so bad that the Korean government is telling their people to go home after work. My guess is that they've finally realized why their populations are dropping so precipitously.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 08, 2022 04:04 PM (/NCI4)

202 @fen, well, there is also that, "forsake not the gathering of yourselves" thing the Bible mentions.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 08, 2022 04:04 PM (5pTK/)

203 200 @LauraKellyMD

Also, I would look at where the boys were coming from. Maybe their birth families were worse in their physical, emotional, spiritual and psychological abuse. The boys could have been better off with loving sexual relationships. (Main problem is when they grow up and want romance)

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 08, 2022 04:03 PM (ptqGC)

=========

Maybe their original home was worse. I highly doubt it, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 08, 2022 04:04 PM (LvTSG)

204 "I will say this: I have both worked and not worked at work, and I can say that not working at work is just as tiring as actually working. Sometimes more so.

"You've got to work pretty hard to avoid working. Sometimes you just need to take a break from it and rest up by actually doing some work."

***
Yeah, Ace, I sometimes actually find myself shifting away from the Brave browser where I read and post on the site, to do some actual work.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 08, 2022 04:04 PM (txdEq)

205 Literally now means "i am not exaggerating about the point i am figuratively making."

I think the cat is literally out of the bag on that one.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 08, 2022 04:04 PM (6FeV1)

206
Gladwell has written some good stuff, last book was poor. Probably comes from working at home.

Posted by: Auspex at August 08, 2022 04:04 PM (j4U/Z)

207 Zennials are in for a world of hurt, especially those that "work" in a place that's pretty much daycare for these kids.
They're getting laid off, and those that are woke, sorry for them...

Reality doesn't give a shit about your feelings, and there are no safe spaces during PanFaWar.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 08, 2022 04:04 PM (sH61M)

208 "I'm the wrong person to ask. I'm extremely solitary. I can handle this life. I can handle it so well I do wonder: Wait, is it normal to be this okay with solitude?"

I always wondered if that was a learned behavior or something that was simply part of your personality. This is also my proclivity, and I often muse-is it simply the situations I've been in, or just part of who I am? I've come to the conclusion IDGAF. lol.

That said, I enjoy that solitude so much, I don't want to be disturbed, to the point of being very aggressive about it. I was once relaxing in solitude after some very bad times by watering a line of plants on my property. Unfortunately, I have a neighbor who is an asshole about the property line. He came out and broke my solitude by yelling at me, asking what I was doing. I replied, F'ing your dead mother in her ass. Wrong answer, he went into the garage and got an axe.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 08, 2022 04:04 PM (VpIIl)

209 Most people don't have careers in any real sense; investing extra effort in a job only makes sense if there is some payoff. The problem is that the generations younger than Generation X grew up in relative wealth and luxury, and they seem to think they can have everything their parents have without putting in the corresponding work. That's not realistic.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 08, 2022 03:58 PM (ppBhU)

I think you've got the reasons a bit backwards here, though you acknowledge there isn't really such a thing as a career with a company anymore. People job hop because that's what the economic incentive to do is. Compensation increases and general structure just don't give people much reason to be invested in a role they'll only be in for a few years.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 08, 2022 04:04 PM (b2nrj)

210 Hadrian the Seventh: "I learned not to be a social person at work. If you're not talking business, you shouldn't be talking. They're your co-workers, not your friends."

That's me. Do the tasks. Do them well. Be polite as possible. Don't dawdle. Go home. Do the things you really enjoy there if the work doesn't provide it.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at August 08, 2022 04:04 PM (aXxgO)

211 >>> 153 "Quiet quitting: why doing the bare minimum at work has gone global"

We're (or they're) still in the soft times of local civilization. When the hard times come, hard men will thrive. These softies will perish.

We've coasted as a nation (or the Western world has) on our forefathers' toil. But that inertia will cease, probably sooner than later and certainly before "we're" ready. When the US$ crashes and becomes toilet paper, a whole lot of people will experience pain they've never before fathomed. The concept of bare minimum work will vaporize just like their attitudes.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at August 08, 2022 03:57 PM (aXxgO)

If you don't work you starve.

Posted by: Rudyard Kipling at August 08, 2022 04:05 PM (llON8)

212 I've never heard of this before. Isn't this a bit young to be that serious about sports?
Posted by: jwest

LeBron (or his parent(s)) signed his first contract with Nike when he was 13.

Posted by: Miklos, out-pointer at August 08, 2022 04:05 PM (hXIvZ)

213 135 I just recently started going back to the office 2 days a week. Thought I would hate it but have been surprised how pleasant it is. There are still a bunch of folks out, so it's not too crowded, but a change of scenery is nice. Don't really want to go more than 2 days, though, that's enough for me what with gas prices and inflation on clothes/food. Jammies are cheaper than office garb.
Posted by: She Hobbit at August 08, 2022 03:56 PM (ftFVW)

I'm in one day a week and thought I would enjoy the change of scenery, too, but really I don't find it worth it mostly due to the commute.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at August 08, 2022 04:05 PM (906pl)

214 There's plenty of meaning to be found from other work. Solving a mystery of why a car engine won't start, finishing the installation of a refrigeration system, drawing an advertisement for a household product, or even simply managing to keep your department need and orderly despite a rush of customers.

It shouldn't be the sum total of your life, but there is some meaning in it.

Agree completely.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 08, 2022 04:05 PM (/NCI4)

215 My grandson was recruited last week for a baseball team that's headquartered 75 miles away from our town. They have paid coaches, their own van and serious sponsors. Apparently, they practice all year, taking 4 week breaks at certain intervals. My grandson is just about to enter the 7th grade.

I've never heard of this before. Isn't this a bit young to be that serious about sports?
Posted by: jwest at August 08, 2022 04:02 PM (/BlEx)
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Sounds like a traveling team. Not unusual for future MLB draftees.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 08, 2022 04:05 PM (5pTK/)

216 I am currently petitioning my employer to let me go back to full time work from home. I've been saying for fifteen years that as long as I have a solid internet connection, I could work from Mars and no one would know the difference. For fifteen months, all the Moo Goo Gai Pandemic bullshit proved that theory.

Working from home, I am far more productive than I ever could be at the office. I do not need the social interaction; I'm ill-equipped for it anyway (my Myer-Briggs "score" is STFU / FYNQ...don't watch TV, don't follow any sportsball, don't golf, don't go see movies, etc). I don't need some yahoo stopping by my desk every eleven minutes to ask me if I watched the game last night and then proceed to give me the play by play

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 08, 2022 04:06 PM (ENBF0)

217 Maybe their birth families were worse in their physical, emotional, spiritual and psychological abuse. The boys could have been better off with loving sexual relationships. (Main problem is when they grow up and want romance)
___

Lord...

Any day now would be nice.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 08, 2022 04:06 PM (sH61M)

218
The boys could have been better off with loving sexual relationships.

Whaaaa??

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at August 08, 2022 04:06 PM (TldeD)

219
In Hartford, Hereford and Hampster
hurricanes hardly happen.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 08, 2022 04:06 PM (pNxlR)

220 Being a cube farm dweller now back in the office some days a week, the thing that gets me is now everyone has a nice USB Plantronics communications headset if not their own Bluetooth one, and can run their meetings from their desk in Teams, instead of having to hold a phone to their ear or meet in a conference room; and most everyone is sufficiently-29 to have grown up with bad landline phone connections, so a lot of people have Loud Phone Voice. I seem to have lost my ability to filter out the noise.

Posted by: ptschett at August 08, 2022 04:06 PM (zB+vL)

221 Sounds like a traveling team. Not unusual for future MLB draftees.
Posted by: blake
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Or a traveling pedo cult.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 08, 2022 04:07 PM (sH61M)

222 I have always worked from home. I enjoy the solitude of my work.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 08, 2022 04:07 PM (erPe0)

223 I wfh full time and get around 4k-6k steps on a no exercise day. I have 2 kids but it's too hot to go outside so I'm not chasing them around or anything

Posted by: Who is Brandon Galt? at August 08, 2022 04:07 PM (Ikxc6)

224 Yeah, but still...pancake titties.
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The only topping allowed for pancake titties are banana boobs!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 08, 2022 04:07 PM (yikp0)

225 The last office I had to go into for my job was in January of 2016 when they finally closed the building and told us we could remote work full time from home. For the 5 years prior to that I drove a 1 hour commute everyday to and from so that I could sit in a building with four floors, three of them empty. No one else in the entire building was part of my team. What was my team scattered all over the US working from other office buildings in their towns in very similar situations.

If you don't work in corporate land you probably only think you know how crazy corporate life is but believe me you don't.

Posted by: Azathoth at August 08, 2022 04:07 PM (wb1YC)

226 Laurie Kelly
@LaurieKellyMD

Retired Title | Elementary School Teacher;
Member, Johns Hopkins Medicine Virtual Advisors; Business & Education degrees; USAF Veteran, No DM's

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 08, 2022 04:07 PM (ptqGC)

227 I prefer going to the pub over drinking remotely from home.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at August 08, 2022 04:07 PM (rTgbC)

228 I am going to go and play B-17. RIP

Posted by: Roy at August 08, 2022 04:07 PM (Ti+Tv)

229 As somebody who was required to work the entire pandemic, I can understand the idea of doing the minimum work. After watching all the rubes staying home getting $600/week to do nothing, you really become sort of 'tapped out' of your enthusiasm for your job that actually requires work.

Posted by: SMOD at August 08, 2022 04:08 PM (RHGPo)

230
USAF veteran?

That means she's a dyke.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at August 08, 2022 04:08 PM (TldeD)

231 Or a traveling pedo cult.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 08, 2022 04:07 PM (sH61M)
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Once in a while, my innocent nature overcomes my cynical side, this being one of those times.

Sigh.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 08, 2022 04:08 PM (5pTK/)

232 I am proud to say I never worked in my pajamas. During the Coof Hysteria, when I "worked" from home, I got up a little later than I did with the commute, worked out and showered, then dressed in clean casual clothes before sitting down at the computer. That was whether I had a Zoom meeting or not. Dressing like a grownup makes me feel like one.

True, I find my work meaningless now, mainly because I have lost all respect for my employer and its employees. They all bought 1000% into the Hysteria -- supposedly educated people, mind you.

If we still had the Trump economy, I'd be retired now and looking for some online work to keep my mind sharp.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 08, 2022 04:08 PM (txdEq)

233 One old friend has worked at home for years ... she codes something or other for the medical industry. No idea on details, but my impression is she has a list of items and has to give them the proper code, probably more complicate.

So with a job like that, it does not seem necessary to go to work. If she needs to talk to people about their details, it would probably be done by phone anyway.

But some jobs and some of life, social interaction is useful, maybe necessary. But blogs actually are rather social, and small groups on Facebook or whatever can chat and share ... internet has tied me back in with many old friends I had moved away from for decades even.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 08, 2022 04:08 PM (Cus5s)

234 Last time I worked in a "team" environment, the office did have a rule regarding chit chat.
All conversation not directly related to the project was forbidden. Any questions went to the supervisor, not to co-workers. I liked that rule.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, with capers at August 08, 2022 04:08 PM (jTmQV)

235 Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 08, 2022 04:04 PM (5pTK/

And I absolutely agree with that. I know people who have set up online chat rooms for after service, but it's not the same as having coffee and refreshments after church, because I notice that a lot of people talk about what's going on in their lives during coffee hour and they appreciate the person to person contact.

I did notice yesterday-because we have an old church, two air conditioning units and fans (that don't work so well) that because I came down from the pulpit-where there are no fans-that I could make more eye contact with them and walk by the aisles they seemed to connect more.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 08, 2022 04:09 PM (wvo9L)

236 quiet shitting > quiet quitting

Posted by: Malcolm Gladwell at August 08, 2022 04:09 PM (786Ro)

237 I hate the notion of "minimum amount of work." You pay me X for Y amount of work, and I either meet that standard or I don't. You want me to do more, you damn well better pay me more.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 08, 2022 04:09 PM (wmDcS)

238 In Hartford, Hereford and Hampster
hurricanes hardly happen.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot

Can you 'splain that plain?

Posted by: Prof. Miklos Higgins, a practical man at August 08, 2022 04:10 PM (hXIvZ)

239 Of course, there is a new Chinese trend ... Laying Down

The CCP hates it.

Posted by: SMOD at August 08, 2022 04:10 PM (RHGPo)

240 Sitting in my on-site office today. It's cold, it's windowless, and one of the few others who had o go on-site today reeks of cologne. If I didn't have to come in once a week, I never would.

Posted by: April--dash my lace wigs! at August 08, 2022 04:10 PM (7i4bg)

241 One old friend has worked at home for years ... she codes something or other for the medical industry. No idea on details, but my impression is she has a list of items and has to give them the proper code, probably more complicate.

Sounds like translating medical records into medical codes for billing.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 08, 2022 04:10 PM (wmDcS)

242 Posted by: jwest at August 08, 2022 04:02 PM (/BlEx)

My B.I.L. is a high school coach in CA and virtually every kid who makes the team is known to him well in advance as a result of participation in these competitive/travel teams. It's not like that everywhere, but the days of picking up a sport in middle school or later are limited, especially given that rec leagues are dwindling. It's not a great development in my opinion.

Posted by: Xander Crews at August 08, 2022 04:10 PM (MpOGS)

243 I work for a company that dutifully shut down for covid. Most everyone is working remotely now, except those who need access to customer information. And management has been pulling its hair out for the past six months trying to get people back in the office. They tried the soft route, talking "flexibility" and "understanding peoples' nervousness," yada-yada. But now, the former idea of flexibility being working one day a week at home has been supplanted by *begging* to get people INTO the office one day a week. It's insanity to a generation for whom the idea of an employee being *owed* a job by the employer is anathema. If I were the CEO, the building would be empty because I fired all the lazy emeffers who refused to show up.

Weird world.

Posted by: red speck at August 08, 2022 04:10 PM (gS3OW)

244 Re: Olivia Newton-John . . . I remember when she "reinvented" herself as a sexy creature with "Physical" the song, and an hour-long musical special in prime time, I think in the summer of '81 or '82. I'd never been a gigantic fan of hers, but something about her in that special was suddenly very sensual.

The future Mrs. Wolfus No. 2 and I got very little sleep that night. . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 08, 2022 04:11 PM (txdEq)

245 I've noticed most work from home supporters support that as OPTIONAL (you dont have to WFH if you dont want to), whereas like democrats, the office-people are only happy if ALL people come back to the office.

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Emotionally Supporting Sexy Russian Women Who Have Been Cancelled at August 08, 2022 04:11 PM (VTu1l)

246 >>>As somebody who was required to work the entire pandemic, I can understand the idea of doing the minimum work. After watching all the rubes staying home getting $600/week to do nothing, you really become sort of 'tapped out' of your enthusiasm for your job that actually requires work.

Posted by: SMOD at August 08, 2022 04:08 PM (RHGPo)

This is a very understandable reaction and position, but a reminder of why your contentment should never be based on Man - he will always let you down.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at August 08, 2022 04:11 PM (QYPq3)

247 The drive toward self-reliance has encountered an unlikely form of resistance in a generation of young Chinese who balk at the Party’s high-minded calls for “continued struggle” alongside an deeply engrained culture of overwork without the promise of real advancement. They opt instead for “lying flat,” or tangping (躺平

. The “lying flat” movement calls on young workers and professionals, including the middle-class Chinese who are to be the engine of Xi Jinping’s domestic boom, to opt out of the struggle for workplace success, and to reject the promise of consumer fulfilment. For some, “lying flat” promises release from the crush of life and work in a fast-paced society and technology sector where competition is unrelenting. For China’s leadership, however, this movement of passive resistance to the national drive for development is a worrying trend—a threat to ambition at a time when Xi Jinping has made grand ambition the zeitgeist of his so-called “New Era.”

Posted by: SMOD at August 08, 2022 04:11 PM (RHGPo)

248 Wait, is it normal to be this okay with solitude?

Under my definition of normal it is . Recent squirrel panel discussion confirmed it.

Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at August 08, 2022 04:11 PM (kdH8w)

249 Most of my cow-workers are libtards. I have little interest in socializing with them.

Their is a company event coming up...and guess what you have to have the clot shot to go.

Guess I'm just going to have to do actual work...from home...instead.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 08, 2022 04:11 PM (ESjRY)

250 One old friend has worked at home for years ... she codes something or other for the medical industry. No idea on details, but my impression is she has a list of items and has to give them the proper code, probably more complicate.
*
Sounds like translating medical records into medical codes for billing.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 08, 2022

***
I think that's what MPPPP does?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 08, 2022 04:12 PM (txdEq)

251 Wait, is it normal to be this okay with solitude?

Under my definition of normal it is . Recent squirrel panel discussion confirmed it.
Posted by: Sock Monkey * Ungovernable at August 08, 2022 04:11 PM (kdH8w)

Scrubs was a really good show.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 04:12 PM (XvPQV)

252 It's no wonder that people who can work from home have become accustomed to it, and are fighting having to spend 40 plus hours per week with people they can barely stand rather than their spouses and kids.
Posted by: Alec Leamas (working from home)
We were told more than ten years ago that we didn't need to do site visits; everything could be done remotely, via e-mail and telephone.

We were told that essential departments could be absorbed by other departments that didn't know our platform, its software, and didn't care to learn.

We were told that whole functions could be shifter "offshore".

We were told during the pandemic we HAD to work from home..

And now EVERYONE must go back in and swap illnesses.

Posted by: Blue Hen at August 08, 2022 04:12 PM (cY9wR)

253 My grandson was recruited last week for a baseball team that's headquartered 75 miles away from our town. They have paid coaches, their own van and serious sponsors. Apparently, they practice all year, taking 4 week breaks at certain intervals. My grandson is just about to enter the 7th grade.

I've never heard of this before. Isn't this a bit young to be that serious about sports?

Posted by: jwest at August 08, 2022 04:02 PM (/BlEx)

Depends on the area I find. CA or maybe TX, probably not unheard of.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 08, 2022 04:12 PM (U3uv2)

254 Isn't MonkeyPox still a reason to work from home? Anyone can get it at work, right? It is a MonkeyPox Emergency. /s

Posted by: illiniwek at August 08, 2022 04:13 PM (Cus5s)

255 My last job only required me to go into the office once a week for a weekly meeting, which I didn't mind because my boss was a conservative veteran who was as efficient as a military clock, so that trip to the office actually accomplished things.

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Emotionally Supporting Sexy Russian Women Who Have Been Cancelled at August 08, 2022 04:13 PM (VTu1l)

256 Jane D'oh, how is your husband feeling?

Posted by: Ben Had at August 08, 2022 04:13 PM (erPe0)

257
That's me. Do the tasks. Do them well. Be polite as possible. Don't dawdle. Go home. Do the things you really enjoy there if the work doesn't provide it.
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at August 08, 2022 04:04 PM (aXxgO)

__________

I had the only job of my type in the company. Not only didn't people understand how I did it, they didn't care. They just wanted the results.

There was no edge whatsoever to attending company events, talking to anyone about anything not work related, speaking up in meetings, etc. There be dragons. It wasn't inconsistent with politeness, but it meant I avoided trouble.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 08, 2022 04:13 PM (1Nxff)

258 > Then its not literally, you hack.

"Literally" has been misused for so long, it literally means nothing. It can mean "figuratively" as well as "literally" now.

If a word means A and ~A, it's meaningless.

Here's Merriam Webster pointing out "literally" has also been used to mean "figuratively" for a long time, even by literary giants like Dickens and James Joyce.

https://bit.ly/3diwR2c

Posted by: bonhomme at August 08, 2022 04:13 PM (eyxn4)

259 Pajamas? Luxury!
We just sleep in raggedy shirts and shorts with busted elastics

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 08, 2022 04:13 PM (ehtvd)

260 One thing I like about being at the office is that, most days, there are maybe six of us most of the week. A lot of the younger engineers work at home most of the time.

Friday is when there are more people around it gets noisy.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, A Pox on Your Minkey at August 08, 2022 04:13 PM (xPJvm)

261 "I used to hear about the Japanese and Korean workers who put in ungodly hours, which is true, but what is rarely noted is that their productivity is comparatively low."
Posted by: Archimedes at August 08, 2022 04:04 PM (/NCI4)
_____

At least in Japan there is a work culture which can be best described as "mindfucking one another." It's considered a breach of etiquette to leave the office before one's superiors. It's that way all the way up the hierarchy. So if the top guy stays until 11, everyone below him has to bide their time at the office before leaving. My experience is that hanging out at the office rather than working with purpose tends to produce poor working habits - procrastination ("I can do it later, since I'll be here regardless") and resentment ("I fucking hate my boss for demanding 'face time' so I'll fuck with him in a passive aggressive manner to get back at him").

Posted by: Alec Leamas (working from home) at August 08, 2022 04:14 PM (Z5J+g)

262 245 I've noticed most work from home supporters support that as OPTIONAL (you dont have to WFH if you dont want to), whereas like democrats, the office-people are only happy if ALL people come back to the office.
Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Emotionally Supporting Sexy Russian Women Who Have Been Cancelled at August 08, 2022 04:11 PM (VTu1l)

Well New York City has substantial tax interests at stake.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 08, 2022 04:14 PM (b2nrj)

263 Quiet quitting: why doing the bare minimum at work has gone global
The meaninglessness of modern work -- and the pandemic -- has led many to question their approach to their jobs

Office Space is still relevant I see.

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 08, 2022 04:14 PM (sAmhv)

264 But the dream of innovation has collided with the harsh reality of overwork in a technology sector that seems sapped of opportunities for breakthrough. Jack Ma and others have advocated a severe culture of overtime work that has become known as “996”—working from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. six days a week. At the technology giant Huawei, this extreme work environment has been dubbed “wolf culture,” a climate of fierce internal workplace competition in which workers must either kill or be killed. Observers have drawn a straight line from “996” culture to the “lying flat” movement. “Lying flat was spawned under the persecution of the 996 overtime culture,” one writer argued on the Zhihu platform. “We employees are too tired. We have to lie down and rest.”

Posted by: SMOD at August 08, 2022 04:14 PM (RHGPo)

265 think I'd make a good lighthouse keeper.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
++++
That would be good for your dating life. Chicks dig men who do bit of light housekeeping.

That's how I actually read the comment: light housekeeping.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (

Posted by: Prime Sister at August 08, 2022 04:14 PM (tQL7r)

266 >>> 207 Zennials are in for a world of hurt, especially those that "work" in a place that's pretty much daycare for these kids.
They're getting laid off, and those that are woke, sorry for them...

Reality doesn't give a shit about your feelings, and there are no safe spaces during PanFaWar.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 08, 2022 04:04 PM (sH61M)

Hmm, so far the only place I've seen that term is at Michael Yon's. Well you seem to be paying attention to what Stan's asshoes are saying they'll do and what they *are* doing, rather than arguing "they would never do THAT!".

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 08, 2022 04:14 PM (llON8)

267 Jane D'oh, how is your husband feeling?

Posted by: Ben Had at August 08, 2022 04:13 PM (erPe0)

------------

He's good as new, thanks to you. The Ivermectin knocked that Wuhan flu on its butt. He was pretty sick on Friday, began feeling better on Saturday, and by Saturday night his fever was gone. Still has a slight cough, but feels fine.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 08, 2022 04:15 PM (ptqGC)

268
Goblins on tiktok are at odds.

This was inevitable: Eventually, everyone in a totalitarian society is suspect of heresy.

A black racist goblin has an Epiphany!
Goblin claims "white" people cannot be "non-binary" because "gender" is "white supremacy."

Like all the other thousands of Daily Epiphanies by these Idiotic Internet Oracles, this claim makes no sense whatsoever.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at August 08, 2022 04:15 PM (TldeD)

269 The two gay "husbands" who adopted two young brothers and then used them in gay porn?

This crazy bitch is defending them:

Its the clear next step. The Alphabet people have mostly won on trannies - MAPs will be next.

Remember, Russia became the worst country in the world NOT because they invaded Ukraine in 2014 - but when they stopped allowing western gay couples to adopt Russian kids and molest them.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 08, 2022 04:15 PM (ESjRY)

270 Even Rush Limbaugh used "literally" that way. Like "Mr. Newt literally eviscerated Chris Wallace during the interview."

Created an interesting image in my head.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, A Pox on Your Minkey at August 08, 2022 04:15 PM (xPJvm)

271 Crisp Rat's "The Terminal List" is doing very well with audiences, and it has a lowly 40% on Rotten Tomatoes. Usually that means it's a fun movie and it's not going to bash you over the head with leftism.

https://bit.ly/3d9MdGp

Posted by: bonhomme at August 08, 2022 04:15 PM (eyxn4)

272
ELIZA: (in a refined manner throughout) My aunt died of influenza, so they said. But it is my belief that they done the old woman in.

LADY BOXINGTON: "Done her in?"

ELIZA: Yes, Lord love you. Why should she die of influenza when she'd come through diphtheria right enough the year before? Fairly blue with it, she was. They all thought she was dead, but my father, he kept ladling gin down her throat. Then she come to so soon, she bit the bowl off the spoon.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 08, 2022 04:15 PM (pNxlR)

273 RIP Olivia Newton John.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 08, 2022 03:41 PM (8GBH4)

It's getting to be a rough week or two for major personalities. How many sets of three does that make now?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at August 08, 2022 04:15 PM (ZSK0i)

274 *winks at Helena*

Been a fan of his since OIF.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 08, 2022 04:16 PM (sH61M)

275 I used to feel like I was "part of something" when I came to work. Then COVID hit and coming to work meant being subjected to petty and senseless restrictions on everything I did, dictated to by people who had no idea what I did or how I did it. Meanwhile the management was getting woke and asking for volunteers for IDEA committees (and you know the kind of people who volunteer for such things) to redefine the work environment and tell us what our institutional "values" are.

So I retired.

Posted by: Socratease at August 08, 2022 04:16 PM (oqnjT)

276 I used to be more social and looked forward to doing things with people, meeting new folks etc. These days I just want to be left alone. I don't want to meet new people. I don't want to go out and socialize. Part of it is that its so exhausting, but another part is that it just opens you up to more pain and I've had my fill for a while at least.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 04:16 PM (Ivdso)

277 I'm trying to ... transition from Laptop Class to Working / Blue-Collar / OMG-You-Do-Things-with-Your-HANDS?! ( ///// ) Class; not sure how well I'm doing but I don't miss where I was.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 08, 2022 04:16 PM (llON8)

278 My experience is that hanging out at the office rather than working with purpose tends to produce poor working habits - procrastination ("I can do it later, since I'll be here regardless") and resentment ("I fucking hate my boss for demanding 'face time' so I'll fuck with him in a passive aggressive manner to get back at him").
Posted by: Alec Leamas (working from home) at August 08, 2022 04:14 PM (Z5J+g)
++++
Thus the fairly low median productivity. I'll bet that if those places went to a 40-hour work week standard that total production wouldn't decline. Hard to say. But it would also be really difficult to do, because culture doesn't move quickly.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2022 04:16 PM (WWh8n)

279 Hillary and Pelosi are still alive.

Even Satan doesn't want them.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 08, 2022 04:17 PM (ptqGC)

280
RIP Olivia Newton John.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 08, 2022 03:41 PM

another grim milestone for the biden administration

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 08, 2022 04:17 PM (ENBF0)

281 Sorry. Terminal List is a show, not a movie.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 08, 2022 04:17 PM (eyxn4)

282 Social interaction is important.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 08, 2022 04:17 PM (dNqv+)

283 Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 08, 2022 04:14 PM (l

Yon is awesome.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 08, 2022 04:17 PM (R8u//)

284 Quiet quitting: why doing the bare minimum at work has gone global
=====

It's also called "mute termination." Heard that many years ago to describe an employee who is unhappy and is doing the bare minimum to get by.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at August 08, 2022 04:17 PM (IytoW)

285 RIP Olivia Newton John.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 08, 2022 03:41 PM

another grim milestone for the biden administration
Posted by: AltonJackson at August 08, 2022 04:17 PM (ENBF0)

Oh, no. RIP, pretty lady.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 08, 2022 04:17 PM (dNqv+)

286 Even Rush Limbaugh used "literally" that way. Like "Mr. Newt literally eviscerated Chris Wallace during the interview."

"I meant it in a figurative way!"

"you meant that this literally, figuratively took place?"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 04:17 PM (Ivdso)

287 Hillary and Pelosi are still alive.

Even Satan doesn't want them.

Come on man, they are the top employees of 1994 and 2022 respectively.

Posted by: Stan, CEO of Hell at August 08, 2022 04:18 PM (ESjRY)

288 This leggy lady in pink doesn't care anymore whether she works in the office or at home, because the office is now a lousy place to meet men anyway:
https://is.gd/idfyjz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2022 04:18 PM (WWh8n)

289 My B.I.L. is a high school coach in CA and virtually every kid who makes the team is known to him well in advance as a result of participation in these competitive/travel teams. It's not like that everywhere, but the days of picking up a sport in middle school or later are limited, especially given that rec leagues are dwindling. It's not a great development in my opinion.
Posted by: Xander Crews at August 08, 2022 04:10 PM (MpOGS)

I worry about it. It sure seems that the time they need to put into the travelling and practice is excessive for their age group. Also, watching these kids play at that level I think they're going to throw their arms out or injure something else. My grandson also played football and basketball, but this leaves little time for those.

I expressed some of these fears to my daughter, but kept it light as not wanting to interfere. But it still bothers me that he won't have the time to fuck around and get in trouble like I did when I was his age. I honestly believe that is where a lot of growing up happens.

Posted by: jwest at August 08, 2022 04:18 PM (/BlEx)

290 203 200 @LauraKellyMD

__________________

Ok, so I'm a little more mindful before hitting the post button in AoS comment section while using an alias than a professional MD is when twittering. So I got that going for me.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 08, 2022 04:18 PM (fs1hN)

291 >>> 237 I hate the notion of "minimum amount of work." You pay me X for Y amount of work, and I either meet that standard or I don't. You want me to do more, you damn well better pay me more.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 08, 2022 04:09 PM (wmDcS)

So you're only wearing 15 pieces of flair?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 08, 2022 04:19 PM (llON8)

292 BIDEN in Kentucky: "It’s not like it’s beyond our control. The weather may be beyond our control for now, but it’s not beyond our control."

They believe their own bullshit.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 08, 2022 04:19 PM (Y5qcH)

293 I'm sure the flood victims in KY appreciate Covid Joey visiting them.

@WashingtonFreeBeacon - 2h

A maskless Biden repeatedly coughs into his hand in Kentucky.

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While sitting next to the governor.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 08, 2022 04:19 PM (ptqGC)

294 God is very, very patient and reluctant to punish, wishing to show mercy and love. I do not understand this tendency of God but I am glad of it in my case, at least.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 04:19 PM (Ivdso)

295 "My B.I.L. is a high school coach in CA and virtually every kid who makes the team is known to him well in advance as a result of participation in these competitive/travel teams. It's not like that everywhere, but the days of picking up a sport in middle school or later are limited, especially given that rec leagues are dwindling. It's not a great development in my opinion.

Posted by: Xander Crews at August 08, 2022 04:10 PM (MpOGS)"

_____

This really depends upon the sport and the position. Football will always have room for big people with athleticism and without prior playing experience. Quarterback is becoming an exception.

Also, burn out and repetitive stress injuries are an issue with young single sport athletes who are in intensive training regimens. Cross training by playing other sports is still absolutely worthwhile for athletic development.

Posted by: Alec Leamas (working from home) at August 08, 2022 04:19 PM (Z5J+g)

296 There is absolutely no defense for child porn, and I hope the woman who argued for it should figuratively be strung up by her heels and certainly castigated by whoever responds until she runs away screaming..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 08, 2022 04:20 PM (wvo9L)

297 A lot of people who incessantly bitched and moaned about being able to work from home are finding out it's not all they thought it'd be. In 2020 my wife and I were directed by the Army to prepare to work at home as the covid op took over. It was fine... for about a month. But it took 3x as long to get anything done. And that's saying something for the Army.

Others were giddy about it... until they realized their spouse, kids, layabouts, whatever were going to be in the house with them.

The covid protocols that sent us home is what determined our retirement in June of 2020.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 08, 2022 04:20 PM (BFigT)

298 God is very, very patient and reluctant to punish, wishing to show mercy and love. I do not understand this tendency of God but I am glad of it in my case, at least.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
___

Amen.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 08, 2022 04:20 PM (sH61M)

299 Really surprised no one's brought up Patriotism or Loyalty yet. When you feel like part of something bigger and better, you identify and sacrifice for it. But Gladwell sucks because he doesn't even realize that remote working means you can surround yourself with people who care for you instead of strangers who are distant or annoying. More: you don't have to pretend to care about a company that supports BLM and short changes you at will.

Under the circumstances, what did the elite think was going to happen? Most of the modern crises, from the collapse in national unity to the increasingly failed global economy, is on their heads. Of course people will divorce the megacorps: of course Americans will be hungry for something better. You want me to come to work because the automated kiosks at McDonald's are feeling lonely? JFC, at least come up with better lies to motivate me.

Posted by: trev006 at August 08, 2022 04:20 PM (yJWaZ)

300 Office Space is still relevant I see.
Posted by: Puddleglum

I was promised cake.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 08, 2022 04:20 PM (LsEU/)

301 My B.I.L. is a high school coach in CA and virtually every kid who makes the team is known to him well in advance as a result of participation in these competitive/travel teams. It's not like that everywhere, but the days of picking up a sport in middle school or later are limited, especially given that rec leagues are dwindling. It's not a great development in my opinion.

Posted by: Xander Crews at August 08, 2022 04:10 PM (MpOGS)

It's not something I would push on my kid, but I have one in particular, who loves baseball so much, I would consider putting in the time and resources to see that he gets the experience and has the tools to excel.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 08, 2022 04:20 PM (U3uv2)

302 Just a short video of a couple of horses out river rafting.

https://bit.ly/3dcE1Fl

Posted by: bonhomme at August 08, 2022 04:20 PM (eyxn4)

303 >>>God is very, very patient and reluctant to punish, wishing to show mercy and love. I do not understand this tendency of God but I am glad of it in my case, at least.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 04:19 PM (Ivdso)

You guys are really pushing, right now, though. Ask us how we know.

Posted by: Sodom & Gomorrah at August 08, 2022 04:20 PM (QYPq3)

304 I think one of the reasons there's a lot more of us borderline antisocial types than there used to be is that the internet, and especially social media, has proven to a lot of us that many of the people we share dirt with in this country are other mentally ill or they have the IQ of a turnip.

Posted by: Azathoth at August 08, 2022 04:20 PM (wb1YC)

305 I think the chinademic changed a lot of people: I don't remember being this anti-social in 2019, in fact despite being an introvert there was a few days out of the week i generally wanted to see my coworkers or go out and mingle with the neighbors and their dogs while they were doing their morning walks.

Now everybody can fuck off and die

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Emotionally Supporting Sexy Russian Women Who Have Been Cancelled at August 08, 2022 04:20 PM (VTu1l)

306 Know a fellow who built a replica of his office down to the last detail.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 08, 2022 04:20 PM (sP+u8)

307 My attitude on the job is to do the job as well as I would, were I working for myself: to give the best effort at every task. As I work for myself now, that works out well.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 04:21 PM (Ivdso)

308 Can't molest your employees if they are working from home...

Posted by: Netflix managers at August 08, 2022 04:21 PM (ESjRY)

309 Know a fellow who built a replica of his office down to the last detail.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 08, 2022 04:20 PM (sP+u

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Andy McCarthy's roommate built a replica of the Oval Office in his home. That's not weird or anything.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 08, 2022 04:22 PM (ptqGC)

310 Remember, Russia became the worst country in the world NOT because they invaded Ukraine in 2014 - but when they stopped allowing western gay couples to adopt Russian kids and molest them.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 08, 2022 04:15 PM (ESjRY)

No pedos, no Goldman Sachs, no BLM? I don't plan to move to Russia, but I can see why some people thought it was the smart deal.

Posted by: trev006 at August 08, 2022 04:22 PM (yJWaZ)

311 If you put your faith in man, in the end you will always be disappointed

Posted by: Marcus T at August 08, 2022 04:22 PM (tDEa7)

312 308 Can't molest your employees if they are working from home...
Posted by: Netflix managers at August 08, 2022 04:21 PM (ESjRY)

No, but you can make them watch while you molest yourself.

Posted by: Jeffery Toobin at August 08, 2022 04:22 PM (Y5qcH)

313 Now everybody can fuck off and die

I got to see most of the people around me swallow the COVID lies hook, line, and sinker even as the lies kept changing...

And then watch them demand I get injected with the same poison that didn't stop them from getting COVID.

F*CK them.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 08, 2022 04:22 PM (ESjRY)

314 I was promised cake.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 08, 2022 04:20 PM (LsEU/)

Umm, yeaahhh, we're going to need you to move your stuff down to Storage B.

Posted by: Lumbergh at August 08, 2022 04:23 PM (ZSK0i)

315 > "you meant that this literally, figuratively took place?"

Did you read the Merriam Webster article? If Joyce, Bronte, and Dickens all used "literally" to mean "figuratively," you're tilting at windmills. That fight's been over for at least a century.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 08, 2022 04:23 PM (eyxn4)

316 Others were giddy about it... until they realized their spouse, kids, layabouts, whatever were going to be in the house with them.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 08, 2022 04:20 PM (BFigT)

I was asked repeatedly if I wanted to WFH during the pandemic, and I kept saying no. Because I knew I wasn't going to be able to focus with my mom be-bopping around all day.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 08, 2022 04:23 PM (DRSnL)

317 Doe and fawn in back yard by my garden, wife went out to see if she can get stomped on

Posted by: Skip at August 08, 2022 04:23 PM (k8B25)

318 After 40 years of hustling in the A/C business, I got the opportunity to work from home around four years ago. I love my flip-flop commute. every morning, I slip on my flip-flops, grab a cup of coffee and head to my office. Best. Job. Ever! Perfect for an ill-tempered curmudgeon such as myself.

Posted by: Biggyrat at August 08, 2022 04:23 PM (8LNvd)

319 Know a fellow who built a replica of his office down to the last detail.

Minus the boss, I hope.

Posted by: Socratease at August 08, 2022 04:23 PM (oqnjT)

320 I'm pretty close to a misanthrope (though not all that humanitarian), so on those days when I WFH I'm totally fine with it. My job doesn't really require much collaboration, and the main reason(s) I come to the office are a sense of duty as something akin to my "management" role and the fact that my home internet connection to the office server sucks donkey balls.

Posted by: Octochicken at August 08, 2022 04:23 PM (oCS0o)

321 No pedos, no Goldman Sachs, no BLM? I don't plan to move to Russia, but I can see why some people thought it was the smart deal.

As GloboHomo and the junta gets more and more strident there is less and less reason to see Russia as particularly "bad" in regards to human rights.

Cross Vlad and he'll send you to prison and mess you up. But what is the junta doing to the j6 protestors?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 08, 2022 04:24 PM (ESjRY)

322 Maria Kordowicz, an associate professor in organisational behaviour at the University of Nottingham and director of its centre for interprofessional education and learning, said the rise in quiet quitting is linked to a noticeable fall in job satisfaction.

--

Eh, I tend to think "Quiet Quitting" is also tied to the modern un-merit based society we've been careening toward. Why strive to stand out, do an exemplar job, become indispensable in your field if you're in the same boat and on the same level with slackers or others who have been hired based on anything but merit? Maybe I'm off base.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 08, 2022 04:24 PM (sVtYq)

323 >>> 287 Hillary and Pelosi are still alive.

Even Satan doesn't want them.

Come on man, they are the top employees of 1994 and 2022 respectively.
Posted by: Stan, CEO of Hell at August 08, 2022 04:18 PM (ESjRY)

HEY! What about Dark Brandon?!

Posted by: DOCTOR Jill at August 08, 2022 04:24 PM (llON8)

324 >>>I was asked repeatedly if I wanted to WFH during the pandemic, and I kept saying no. Because I knew I wasn't going to be able to focus with my mom be-bopping around all day.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 08, 2022 04:23 PM (DRSnL)

Just take her Walkman away.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at August 08, 2022 04:25 PM (QYPq3)

325 288 This leggy lady in pink doesn't care anymore whether she works in the office or at home, because the office is now a lousy place to meet men anyway:
https://is.gd/idfyjz
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 08, 2022 04:18 PM (WWh8n)

Voom. She looks sleek and fast. I'd love to see how she handles.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 04:25 PM (XvPQV)

326 Someone at my old job understood that he could make me twitch with disgust by using the word "literally" improperly. The guy was a jackass but it's funny now.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 08, 2022 04:25 PM (44ww/)

327 F*CK them. Posted by: 18-1 at August 08, 2022 04:22 PM (ESjRY)

************

Yep, and it's even worse when they CONTINUE to wear masks despite the policy in the office being dropped, and I bet it's the same mask they've been wearing for 2 years.

At least before you couldn't quite tell who the libtards were. Ignorance was bliss.

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Emotionally Supporting Sexy Russian Women Who Have Been Cancelled at August 08, 2022 04:25 PM (VTu1l)

328 I'm glad we never had flooding before we discovered global warming/sarc. I can't imagine this is at all helpful to the people in KY. I don't know that Biden was ever an empathetic person but if he had some it died off with his dementia.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 08, 2022 04:25 PM (wvo9L)

329 HUMMMPH - Gladwell can 'Besa mah CULO' and BARK at the Hole!
I've enjoyed working from Home for over 2 DECADES!

I reside on the western edge of Houston - ANYTIME I 'think' I'm having a bad day - I just turn on the local TRAFFIC report sand I'm I M M E D I A T E L Y
having a better Day!

Posted by: Katfish at August 08, 2022 04:26 PM (WQKoE)

330 Oof. This comment to Joey Biden:

SAL, GOLDSTARFATHER
@SALGOLDSTARFAT3

Now would be a good time to check your watch and pray for 13 servicemen, their families and the Americans that were left behind in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 08, 2022 04:26 PM (ptqGC)

331 I was promised cake.
Posted by: Tonypete

Your Cake, Monsieur.

https://tinyurl.com/yw8pm63x

Posted by: Ever Helpful Miklos at August 08, 2022 04:26 PM (hXIvZ)

332 300 Office Space is still relevant I see.
Posted by: Puddleglum

I was promised cake.
Posted by: Tonypete at August 08, 2022 04:20 PM (LsEU/)

You too?

Posted by: Milton Waddams at August 08, 2022 04:26 PM (PiwSw)

333 I'm sure many of you had conversations like this recently -

-I haven't seen your son in a while, how's he doing?
-Oh, he's been really sick with the Covid, he called me the other day, saying how he can barely do anything but sleep.
-Oh no, sounds terrible. Didn't he also have it back in December?
-Yeah, it's worse this time. But he's vaxxed and boosted, so he'll be fine.
-*bites tongue*

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 08, 2022 04:26 PM (fs1hN)

334 Yeah I live with my older brothers, I can basically isolate my self in my room and work every morning. How you can wrangle that as a mom or dad, or a married person I don't know. Sometimes the spouse can get really clingy and needy or take your need to be alone as being cold and disliking them, from what I've seen.

I shut off the internet when I'm writing, I want no distractions. No music either.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 04:26 PM (Ivdso)

335 317 Doe and fawn in back yard by my garden, wife went out to see if she can get stomped on
Posted by: Skip at August 08, 2022 04:23 PM (k8B25)

My wife has gone through about 5 bottles of "Deer Off" trying to save her hostas and other plantings around the house. No such luck. The deer think it's salad dressing.

Posted by: jwest at August 08, 2022 04:27 PM (/BlEx)

336 Slackers of the world unite!

Posted by: Archer at August 08, 2022 04:27 PM (gmo/4)

337 We were created to work, at whatever kind of work one is called to. My husband, I fear, will never retire, because he requires the mental stimulation of his job. There is no hobby that will cause him to think the way his job does.

Posted by: TecumsehTea at August 08, 2022 04:27 PM (BjGT6)

338 SMOD: "Jack Ma and others have advocated a severe culture of overtime work that has become known as '996'—working from 9 a.m. to 9 p.m. six days a week."

That can work. For a while. Then your widgets of personnel start to make mistakes and fail because humans need physical and mental rest. Sure, theoretically, Bossman could cycle through enough widgets of personnel to avoid this problem, but not everyone was born to code. Eventually you burn up all the widgets of personnel. And then one or more of them come at you with bats and knives.

People can be made hard. They cannot be made indestructible.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at August 08, 2022 04:27 PM (aXxgO)

339 I was promised cake.

https://youtu.be/F_HoMkkRHv8

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 04:28 PM (Ivdso)

340 A maskless Biden repeatedly coughs into his hand in Kentucky.

While sitting next to the governor.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 08, 2022 04:19 PM

It's cool, he is a democrat and a grifter.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 08, 2022 04:28 PM (bVYXr)

341 I have been working solidly since the time I was 12 and I had a paper route. Then when I was 16 I got a job in fast food. When I was 20 I was hired by a Wall Street firm as in house temp help. I have been working in the financial industry now almost 40 years.

I am ready to retire. I do not care for the job like I did 10 years ago but I still put in the hours to get it done.

It will be interesting to see what kind of workers those coming out of college will be.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 08, 2022 04:28 PM (Oq/TM)

342 My wife has gone through about 5 bottles of "Deer Off" trying to save her hostas and other plantings around the house. No such luck. The deer think it's salad dressing.
Posted by: jwest
==
Tell her she has to pee on them. And see what happens next . . .

Posted by: You saw it on HGTV at August 08, 2022 04:29 PM (oEgLo)

343 RIP Olivia Newton John.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 08, 2022 03:41 PM (8GBH4)

It's getting to be a rough week or two for major personalities. How many sets of three does that make now?
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent

Rough week for Australian singers. Judith Dunham died a week ago. She was more a big deal in Australia. The gal had a hell of a voice.

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 08, 2022 04:29 PM (sAmhv)

344 341 I have been working solidly since the time I was 12 and I had a paper route. Then when I was 16 I got a job in fast food. When I was 20 I was hired by a Wall Street firm as in house temp help. I have been working in the financial industry now almost 40 years.

I am ready to retire. I do not care for the job like I did 10 years ago but I still put in the hours to get it done.

It will be interesting to see what kind of workers those coming out of college will be.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 08, 2022 04:28 PM (Oq/TM)

Hadn't you heard the hiring process has changed to be very heavy on diversity in the last couple years? Indians and women for the most part.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 08, 2022 04:29 PM (b2nrj)

345 292 BIDEN in Kentucky: "It’s not like it’s beyond our control. The weather may be beyond our control for now, but it’s not beyond our control."

Holy shit! HAARP really is a weather control project, confirmed by no less than the sitting President of the United States!

We gotta keep this Biden guy around for a while and see what other conspiracy theories he'll validate for us.

Posted by: CppThis at August 08, 2022 04:29 PM (UewuT)

346 Someone at my old job understood that he could make me twitch with disgust by using the word "literally" improperly. The guy was a jackass but it's funny now.

Never let them find your buttons. Especially if you're sharing an office.

Posted by: Socratease at August 08, 2022 04:30 PM (oqnjT)

347 I am proud to say I never worked in my pajamas. During the Coof Hysteria, when I "worked" from home, ... Dressing like a grownup makes me feel like one.

True, I find my work meaningless now, mainly because I have lost all respect for my employer and its employees. They all bought 1000% into the Hysteria -- supposedly educated people, mind you.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Well, I always shower and put on my work pajamas first...

But yeah, we had frequent updates from the top corp doctor building up the hysteria. Obviously just spouting the latest CDC line, and I wondered why they needed a doctor to deliver the message. And then one of the bigger arguments for not coming back (even in my less-coof hysteric part of the country) was from individuals afraid of getting infected in the office. I'd like to think some of them were ironically using the hysteria against the company, but I suspect many of them really are frightened. Sheep.

Posted by: She Hobbit at August 08, 2022 04:30 PM (ftFVW)

348 >>> 337 We were created to work, at whatever kind of work one is called to. My husband, I fear, will never retire, because he requires the mental stimulation of his job. There is no hobby that will cause him to think the way his job does.
Posted by: TecumsehTea at August 08, 2022 04:27 PM (BjGT6)

Look up just how recent the concept of 'retirement' is (much more so than I thought). I'm starting to think it's better to not drop work entirely but that could mean many things.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 08, 2022 04:30 PM (llON8)

349 Tell her she has to pee on them. And see what happens next . . .
Posted by: You saw it on HGTV at August 08, 2022 04:29 PM (oEgLo)

That's a good idea. I think I'll get some video of that.

Posted by: jwest at August 08, 2022 04:30 PM (/BlEx)

350 I do get fulfillment from my job and believe in what I'm doing. I also work better from home.

Part of it is that my current role doesn't involve a lot of hardware development. In previous roles, I'd have been in the lab a lot checking on how things were going, so it would have made sense for me to be on site. In this role, the development going on is all software. Standing behind a SW dev watching him type isn't going to do anyone any good (especially when he's at home typing and might have some reasonable questions about how I got into his house).

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at August 08, 2022 04:30 PM (8548M)

351 I was on a call back in 2020 with my company and they were announcing the death from covid of one of the employees we all knew in our division The discussion prompted everyone to declare their allegiance to hand sanitizer, masking, and I forget what all other magic words.

But apparently, according to several of my coworkers, I was "insensitive" and "callous" in pointing out that he weighed in about 425 lbs.

Posted by: Azathoth at August 08, 2022 04:31 PM (wb1YC)

352 Tell her she has to pee on them. And see what happens next

I've seen this movie. It had Michael J Fox and Julie Warner right?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 04:31 PM (Ivdso)

353 We were created to work, at whatever kind of work one is called to. My husband, I fear, will never retire, because he requires the mental stimulation of his job. There is no hobby that will cause him to think the way his job does.
Posted by: TecumsehTea at August 08, 2022 04:27 PM (BjGT6)

Look up just how recent the concept of 'retirement' is (much more so than I thought). I'm starting to think it's better to not drop work entirely but that could mean many things.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 08, 2022 04:30 PM (llON

Same. I took my 'retirement' in my 20's. Now I intend to keep working, at something, until I drop. I get twitchy without the structure of a job after a week or two.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 04:31 PM (XvPQV)

354 Sometimes the spouse can get really clingy and needy or take your need to be alone as being cold and disliking them, from what I've seen.

Spouse doesn't work from home. I do when I'm doing worship or sermon preparation composing e-mails He doesn't mind at all when I go off by myself and he goes up to his little room when he wants to paint.

I do understand why some spouses pull their hair out when after working somewhere else all the time and spouse is home all the time and "under foot". Unless they have hobbies or otside charitable work it's often very hard for men to be at home and hard for their wives too if they have been home.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 08, 2022 04:31 PM (wvo9L)

355 I have been working solidly since the time I was 12 and I had a paper route. Then when I was 16 I got a job in fast food. When I was 20 I was hired by a Wall Street firm as in house temp help. I have been working in the financial industry now almost 40 years.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 08, 2022 04:28 PM (Oq/TM)

You are older than I thought you were! I thought you were close to my age.

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 08, 2022 04:31 PM (DRSnL)

356 If an innovative company would offer all the amenities that one experiences working from home I think employees would be more inclined to get back to their jobs. Thats right food and drink available all day for starters, maybe even food servers..

Posted by: Commentor What Got a Shirt at August 08, 2022 04:31 PM (5s/s5)

357 Hosta outside the fence, even by road has been eaten

Posted by: Skip at August 08, 2022 04:31 PM (k8B25)

358 Ace is right in that most office jobs are less than meaningful. Dilbert has spent 30 years pointing out the obvious. But I think there is some value in interacting with others, even peripherally.

Posted by: Mookie at August 08, 2022 04:32 PM (u+Y3T)

359 >>> 341 I have been working solidly since the time I was 12 and I had a paper route. Then when I was 16 I got a job in fast food. When I was 20 I was hired by a Wall Street firm as in house temp help. I have been working in the financial industry now almost 40 years.

I am ready to retire. I do not care for the job like I did 10 years ago but I still put in the hours to get it done.

It will be interesting to see what kind of workers those coming out of college will be.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 08, 2022 04:28 PM (Oq/TM)

When you're in TX I should ask who you work for because I suspect your employer is one of my employer's clients.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 08, 2022 04:32 PM (llON8)

360 My wife has gone through about 5 bottles of "Deer Off" trying to save her hostas and other plantings around the house. No such luck. The deer think it's salad dressing.

Posted by: jwest at August 08, 2022 04:27 PM (/BlEx)

the only thing that worked for us when we lived back east was a repellent that contained wolf or coyote urine. Smelled really bad but kept the deer from eating the plants.

Posted by: Archer at August 08, 2022 04:32 PM (gmo/4)

361 Posted by: She Hobbit at August 08, 2022 04:30 PM (ftFVW)

A lot of people are dumb and retarded.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 08, 2022 04:32 PM (R8u//)

362 >>>Look up just how recent the concept of 'retirement' is (much more so than I thought). I'm starting to think it's better to not drop work entirely but that could mean many things.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 08, 2022 04:30 PM (llON

Retirement = death.

I'm not endorsing not retiring, though.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at August 08, 2022 04:32 PM (QYPq3)

363 I reside on the western edge of Houston - ANYTIME I 'think' I'm having a bad day - I just turn on the local TRAFFIC report sand I'm I M M E D I A T E L Y
having a better Day!
Posted by: Katfish

Houston, Texas. Where Friday afternoon rush hour starts Thursday morning.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 08, 2022 04:32 PM (j+4+t)

364 RIP Olivia Newton John.

--

Oh wow, that's really sad. RIP to a very talented, beautiful lady.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 08, 2022 04:32 PM (sVtYq)

365 Considering how many people have awful commutes they're at least coming out ahead there.

And how is working from home a problem when the world is dying from car farts? Funny how no one is talking about that. I guess sitting in a corner office lording it over the serfs is more important than saving the erf.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 08, 2022 04:33 PM (QRdjz)

366 A lot of people are dumb and retarded.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 08, 2022 04:32 PM (R8u//)

QFT

Posted by: Jordan61 at August 08, 2022 04:33 PM (DRSnL)

367 If an innovative company would offer all the amenities that one experiences working from home I think employees would be more inclined to get back to their jobs.

At one company I remember everyone hit the cafeteria at noon and there was a 20 minute wait to get through the cash register.

I pointed out to some higher level managers that we'd save money just waving people through since 20 minutes of employee time was worth a lot more then their $5-10 worth of food.

And that's when I got to learn all about the magic of different cost centers.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 08, 2022 04:33 PM (ESjRY)

368 >>> 351 I was on a call back in 2020 with my company and they were announcing the death from covid of one of the employees we all knew in our division The discussion prompted everyone to declare their allegiance to hand sanitizer, masking, and I forget what all other magic words.

But apparently, according to several of my coworkers, I was "insensitive" and "callous" in pointing out that he weighed in about 425 lbs.
Posted by: Azathoth at August 08, 2022 04:31 PM (wb1YC)

And I think *you* work for my employer!! (although I didn't point out the guy's weight)

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 08, 2022 04:34 PM (llON8)

369 I like ONJ, but Grease was one of the most annoying movies ever made.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 08, 2022 04:34 PM (Y5qcH)

370 jwest, if you go pee around the area the deer will leave them alone.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 08, 2022 04:34 PM (erPe0)

371 It’s not like it’s beyond our control. The weather may be beyond our control for now, but it’s not beyond our control."

*********

He's repeating lefty logic: we can't control the weather except where it means we can control the weather by sealing our asses so we don't fart carbon into the atmosphere and prancing around in green colored carbon neutral electric scooters.

Posted by: The Unvaxed and Unmasked Ranger - Emotionally Supporting Sexy Russian Women Who Have Been Cancelled at August 08, 2022 04:34 PM (VTu1l)

372 As an aside, if a star can be made out of chorizo, there is no reason the moon isn't made out of cheese.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 08, 2022 04:34 PM (8GBH4)

373 RIP to a very talented, beautiful lady

Her "Totally Hot" album cover is still one of the most accurate ever. https://bit.ly/3BQTiGi

Posted by: Mookie at August 08, 2022 04:34 PM (u+Y3T)

374 China bought into 996 as part of a larger socio-economic thing where they think that their current prosperity is fleeting and they've got just a few shot years to grab whatever's not nailed down before everything collapses. Same reason they fling money into things like cryptocurrency and foreign real estate.

Posted by: CppThis at August 08, 2022 04:34 PM (UewuT)

375 >>> 361 Posted by: She Hobbit at August 08, 2022 04:30 PM (ftFVW)

A lot of people are dumb and retarded.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 08, 2022 04:32 PM (R8u//)

and should be beaten with tire irons.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 08, 2022 04:34 PM (llON8)

376 Funny how no one is talking about that. I guess sitting in a corner office lording it over the serfs is more important than saving the erf.

Duh

Posted by: The Davos crew getting off their private jets at August 08, 2022 04:34 PM (ESjRY)

377 the only thing that worked for us when we lived back east was a repellent that contained wolf or coyote urine. Smelled really bad but kept the deer from eating the plants.

Moth balls might work, the napthalene ones. They kept pretty much EVERYTHING out of my mom's back yard by hanging a few on plants evenly spaced out.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 04:34 PM (Ivdso)

378 jwest, if you go pee around the area the deer will leave them alone.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 08, 2022 04:34 PM (erPe0)

And make sure to get a video.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 08, 2022 04:34 PM (ptqGC)

379 Retirement for me is more about having time for my hobbies. I suppose things might get better in that regard as the kids get older.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at August 08, 2022 04:35 PM (8548M)

380 345 292 BIDEN in Kentucky: "It’s not like it’s beyond our control. The weather may be beyond our control for now, but it’s not beyond our control."

Holy shit! HAARP really is a weather control project, confirmed by no less than the sitting President of the United States!

We gotta keep this Biden guy around for a while and see what other conspiracy theories he'll validate for us.
Posted by: CppThis

There was no moon landing. They filmed the entire moon landing in a basement of a Howard Johnsons in Newcastle, Delaware. My word as a Biden!

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 08, 2022 04:36 PM (sAmhv)

381 >>> 357 Hosta outside the fence, even by road has been eaten
Posted by: Skip at August 08, 2022 04:31 PM (k8B25)

If it were hooved rats eating my plants I could shoot the little bastards. I've got a shitload of grasshoppers and not enough chickens.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 08, 2022 04:36 PM (llON8)

382 Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 08, 2022 04:34 PM (Y5qcH)

The theme song is a killer.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 08, 2022 04:36 PM (R8u//)

383 I was "insensitive" and "callous" in pointing out that he weighed in about 425 lbs.
==
you should have followed that with, . . . "but he was very light on his feet" ... or "but he carried it well"...

Posted by: he was 2 1/2 people sized at August 08, 2022 04:36 PM (F5ivJ)

384 Greetings:

Hey, somebodies got to fill out those 3rd and 4th standard deviations on the bell curve.

Posted by: 11B40 at August 08, 2022 04:36 PM (uuklp)

385 "We can control the weather!"

- people who can't even control their own impulses

Posted by: Azathoth at August 08, 2022 04:36 PM (wb1YC)

386 I'd bet good money the folks in eastern Kentucky would rather the do-gooders quit their dumbfuckery and get out of the way. *biden included. The flooding wiped entire communities off the map. Small clusters of mobile homes, a church, maybe a local shop of some sort. Dozens of them.... gone. And it's likely that few, if any had flood insurance.

Here in the Bluegrass the word went out to stay here. Don't try to deliver water, food, whatever. There are already processes in place and they don't need people who are more interested in virtue signaling than getting dirty shoveling mud.

As for controlling the weather... I think there are a few here who'd like a word with "pResident weather machine."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 08, 2022 04:37 PM (BFigT)

387 We gotta keep this Biden guy around for a while and see what other conspiracy theories he'll validate for us.
Posted by: CppThis
------------
That 100 MPG carburetor has been warehoused somewhere!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at August 08, 2022 04:37 PM (aaGzp)

388 Work from home is a joke. Sure, SOME jobs can be work from home with no problem (tech support, etc).

What a lot of jackasses are doing is taking what I call the anecdote of the top 5% and trying to use that to justify their own bullshit slacking.

Sales, for instance. The absolute top sales guys (when working on commission) can be set loose on their own, and they will accomplish more than being forced to work in an office, because they're actually motivated to do more to make more money and they hate the office BS that takes them away from making more money.

The rest of them, on the other hand, if they are not supervised in an office, have dramatic drops in their sales, because they'll just lie about how much time they spent on calls/sales visits and say they got rejected.

All of the advocates for remote work are full of crap. It's a huge negative for the bulk of industries and employees.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at August 08, 2022 04:37 PM (AjL/0)

389 Does anyone click on toenail fungus ads?

I found out deck board rot is fungus.

Posted by: torabora at August 08, 2022 04:37 PM (fbHXO)

390 If the Fedgov had mailed everyone a bottle of Vit D, closed only the fast food joints, and told everyone to go exercise they would have saved thousands of lives at little cost...

Posted by: 18-1 at August 08, 2022 04:37 PM (ESjRY)

391 @ChuckCallesto

BREAKING REPORT: Liz Cheney's Husband Is PARTNER AT LAW FIRM Representing Hunter Biden...

PAYING ATTENTION YET...

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 08, 2022 04:37 PM (ptqGC)

392 I could live on a well equipped desert island with zero in person/on phone/text human interaction.

Been working from home for over a decade and I love it. But it is very easy to be sedentary if you are not an introverted or naturally energetic person.

Posted by: chique l'African ViQueen of Greenland, the Merciless, open to talks with the Great MAGA King at August 08, 2022 04:38 PM (rF64X)

393 378 jwest, if you go pee around the area the deer will leave them alone.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 08, 2022 04:34 PM (erPe0)

I've often looked for an excuse to pee in the backyard. This will work out just fine.

Posted by: jwest at August 08, 2022 04:38 PM (/BlEx)

394 "We can control the weather!"

You'd think if they could control the weather, they would be able to actually predict the weather. You know, since they control it and all.

Posted by: Mookie at August 08, 2022 04:38 PM (u+Y3T)

395 Odds that there is a video of Hunter banging Lizard Cheney?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 08, 2022 04:38 PM (ESjRY)

396 As an aside, if a star can be made out of chorizo, there is no reason the moon isn't made out of cheese.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 08, 2022 04:34 PM (8GBH4)

For a laugh, look up the world ice "theory" (Welteislehre) of Johannes Horbiger

Posted by: Archer at August 08, 2022 04:38 PM (gmo/4)

397 I thought Grease was a stupid movie, but nothing against ONJ, she was a doll

Posted by: Skip at August 08, 2022 04:38 PM (k8B25)

398 391 @ChuckCallesto

BREAKING REPORT: Liz Cheney's Husband Is PARTNER AT LAW FIRM Representing Hunter Biden...

PAYING ATTENTION YET...
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 08, 2022 04:37 PM (ptqGC)

==========

Wait...there's a UNIPARTY?

Why does nobody tell me about these things!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 08, 2022 04:39 PM (LvTSG)

399 She was built long and lean, and fun, to handle son
She was the fastest thing around

Posted by: Braenyard at August 08, 2022 04:39 PM (sP+u8)

400 I know that without having an office job, I get virtually no exercise whatsoever, which is why, in my particular circumstances, it is desperately needed that I try to walk or hike an hour everyday. Without that, I literally barely move.

Not good, ace. When you stop moving, you start dying.

I've witnessed this first hand. The death part too. Myself, I rarely remain sitting for more than 30 minutes at a time. Getting up isn't an inconvenience, it's essential.

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 08, 2022 04:39 PM (JOtiF)

401 Humans are meant to interact with other humans. By telling us to stay apart, they are prepping us to be good with not tapping into part of what makes us human.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 08, 2022 04:39 PM (R8u//)

402 BREAKING REPORT: Liz Cheney's Husband Is PARTNER AT LAW FIRM Representing Hunter Biden...

PAYING ATTENTION YET...
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 08, 2022 04:37 PM (ptqGC)

Deep State incest.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 08, 2022 04:39 PM (89T5c)

403 Not a fan of ONJ's music but she was a good singer and very pretty.

Posted by: Puddleglum at August 08, 2022 04:39 PM (sAmhv)

404 We gotta keep this Biden guy around for a while and see what other conspiracy theories he'll validate for us.

The lizard beings in the Denver airport tunnels are getting nervous....

Posted by: Mookie at August 08, 2022 04:39 PM (u+Y3T)

405 Alex Baldwin was great with his brass balls.

Then he murdered that woman and shot another. Not a day in jail.

Posted by: torabora at August 08, 2022 04:39 PM (fbHXO)

406 Ace - here's the LA Times admitting to making fake news stories to gaslight Trump supporters into not supporting him.

https://tinyurl.com/49hpts8k

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 08, 2022 04:40 PM (mZ3xv)

407 My present wife and I are willing to stop "working", in return for One Billion American Dollars.

Posted by: Hunter Biden, entrepreneur and tax expert at August 08, 2022 04:40 PM (kZWnX)

408 Hilarious WaPo article about the very modern and very silly problem of couples combining their digital accounts.

https://wapo.st/3QnMDqQ

Now that I've said it's very silly, and I believe it is, some silly things are still emotional sticking points to the individual. For example: the 29 year old newlywed who has very carefully curated their Spotify account for decades, do they allow their spouse to make their own choices and completely alter what music is played.

Of course, this is just a variation of the same issue new couples have had for ages. Guys who had their girlfriends change the station presets or start vetoing their Limp Bizkit albums know what I'm talking about. Then when you have kids, normal parents make adjustments again. I will note though, that the Spotify account is much more deeply personal than a radio station preset because the user has so much more control.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 08, 2022 04:40 PM (eyxn4)

409 >>> 365 Considering how many people have awful commutes they're at least coming out ahead there.

And how is working from home a problem when the world is dying from car farts? Funny how no one is talking about that. I guess sitting in a corner office lording it over the serfs is more important than saving the erf.

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at August 08, 2022 04:33 PM (QRdjz)

ooooh, I'm definitely going to use this on my ESG fan club leaders if they start whining about WFH. Pretty sure my cow-orkers would be on board too although for different reasons, since they are all vaxxed and boosted.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 08, 2022 04:40 PM (llON8)

410 Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 08, 2022 04:39 PM (89T5c)

Gross. Accurate, but gross.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at August 08, 2022 04:40 PM (R8u//)

411 That can work. For a while. Then your widgets of personnel start to make mistakes and fail because humans need physical and mental rest. Sure, theoretically, Bossman could cycle through enough widgets of personnel to avoid this problem, but not everyone was born to code. Eventually you burn up all the widgets of personnel. And then one or more of them come at you with bats and knives.

This is the business model of the big consulting firms, e.g. Bain, BCG, and DeLoitte. They constantly bring in new eager beavers from the big name schools, work them for 80-100 hours a week, and then most of them leave. The few who can maintain the pace have a shot at becoming a partner, and then dying of a heart attack at 60.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 08, 2022 04:40 PM (/NCI4)

412 Odds that there is a video of Hunter banging Lizard Cheney?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 08, 2022 04:38 PM (ESjRY)

"No yellows."

Posted by: GnuBreed at August 08, 2022 04:40 PM (JOtiF)

413 Liz Cheney's husband has lots of work.

Posted by: torabora at August 08, 2022 04:40 PM (fbHXO)

414 I'm fine with the idea of both parties sharing many of the same goals and interests, but I mean.... lawyers don't necessarily like the people they work for, and just because you work in the same office doesn't make you allies.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 08, 2022 04:41 PM (Ivdso)

415 Sounds like Gladwell is having problems hiring.

Posted by: aelfheld at August 08, 2022 04:41 PM (Zy9Yy)

416 good with not tapping into part of what makes us human.
==
you must cover your faces, even though it does nothing, except to cover your face so it can't be fully seen.

Posted by: The More You Know at August 08, 2022 04:41 PM (iBlwQ)

417 Hey how do I get ahold of ace?
The ibraham kendi is coming to speak at my school and he's probably stupid enough to have a q&a afterwards...

Posted by: MAxIE at August 08, 2022 04:41 PM (twxj3)

418 I had plenty of down time when I worked. We were on 24/7, so you take it when you can. If a $500,000/day drilling rig needs something it doesn't matter where you are or when it is, you get it for them.

Posted by: Javems at August 08, 2022 04:41 PM (AmoqO)

419 >>> 392 I could live on a well equipped desert island with zero in person/on phone/text human interaction.

Been working from home for over a decade and I love it. But it is very easy to be sedentary if you are not an introverted or naturally energetic person.
Posted by: chique l'African ViQueen of Greenland, the Merciless, open to talks with the Great MAGA King at August 08, 2022 04:38 PM (rF64X)

Come be my neighbor and start planting some trees.

(Just wait until I get my first four-legged critters that are not dogs, cats or gerbils!)

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 08, 2022 04:42 PM (llON8)

420 > Grease was one of the most annoying movies ever made.

Xanadu is worse, IMHO.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 08, 2022 04:42 PM (eyxn4)

421 NOOD (with a cute doggie)

Posted by: Chuck C at August 08, 2022 04:43 PM (xttsV)

422 And that's when I got to learn all about the magic of different cost centers.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 08, 2022 04:33 PM (ESjRY)

Now yer talkin Harvard MBA stuff sheesh..

I worked for a midsized construction outfit with 700 employees. I tabulated the cost of our 15 minute breaks that we were paid for (but not lunch). I was suprised it added up to a substantial dollar amount.

Posted by: Commentor What Got a Shirt at August 08, 2022 04:43 PM (5s/s5)

423 Houston, Texas. Where Friday afternoon rush hour starts Thursday morning.

It's not that the traffic here is great, but I prefer it to Austin's traffic. Houston at least built/builds for it.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 08, 2022 04:43 PM (ppBhU)

424 The ibraham kendi is coming to speak at my school and he's probably stupid enough to have a q&a afterwards...

Oh the fun you could have....

If White people are all racist wouldn't it be best to segregate them from people of other races?

or...

If America is a fundamentally racist country should we build a wall so that poor Latinx can't come here and be the victims of racism?

Posted by: 18-1 at August 08, 2022 04:43 PM (ESjRY)

425 Biden with these new IRS agents going after poor people. Does he not think this will alienate his base?

Posted by: Braenyard at August 08, 2022 04:43 PM (sP+u8)

426 nood
dog

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 08, 2022 04:44 PM (XvPQV)

427 I like ONJ, but Grease was one of the most annoying movies ever made.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

And that is why we'll be watching Xanadu at my house tonight.

Posted by: She Hobbit at August 08, 2022 04:44 PM (ftFVW)

428 Gas prices + driving on I-4 is like a Mad Max movie + shitty office physical environment + insufferable coworkers + lousy lunch options + sharing a restroom with slobs...

Yeah I'll stick with my clean home office, stocked fridge, home bathroom, and dog curled up at my feet.

Posted by: weew at August 08, 2022 04:44 PM (+m+uH)

429 Post Katrina my company tried to make us work from home. My boss and I couldn't hack it. We went in to the office and just didn't answer the office phones.

Posted by: Javems at August 08, 2022 04:44 PM (AmoqO)

430 My wife has gone through about 5 bottles of "Deer Off" trying to save her hostas and other plantings around the house. No such luck. The deer think it's salad dressing.
Posted by: jwest
==
Tell her she has to pee on them. And see what happens next . . .

Posted by: You saw it on HGTV at August 08, 2022 04:29 PM

Actually go to a sporting goods store and buy coyote or fox urine, it makes them stay away.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 08, 2022 04:45 PM (bVYXr)

431 I need cheering

Posted by: Skip at August 08, 2022 04:47 PM (k8B25)

432 I have been working remotely from home since March 2020 and I love it.

I was reading some notes about a client and why her child was removed from her care.

She was with a man who likes to have sex with puppies.

Seriously, I am done. Please let me off this crazy rock.

Posted by: Czech Chick at August 08, 2022 04:48 PM (haWye)

433 "My steps are around 900."

I understand the implicit Taylor Lorenz joke here.

Posted by: yaedon at August 08, 2022 04:51 PM (ZJQCW)

434
and just because you work in the same office doesn't make you allies.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

You've been watching reruns of Suits, haven't you?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 08, 2022 04:51 PM (n+4am)

435 I damn near live like a monk except for the 25-40 hours per week I put in for a small construction outfit. I'm usually waiting for the grocery to unlock their doors just so I can get in and out without being around people. It's a 180 from where I was 8 years ago. I like solitude. Do monks have dogs?

Posted by: Fool Otto at August 08, 2022 04:51 PM (DB16e)

436 367 If an innovative company would offer all the amenities that one experiences working from home I think employees would be more inclined to get back to their jobs. Posted by: 18-1
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That model is failing in Silicon Valley for cost and work at home reasons. What we are seeing is global pushback against megacorps that has been so well portrayed in Office Space. Same as caring for the Ukraine, masking and vaxx to save the chilluns, maintaining Roe v. Wade, and so forth.

We are entering a new age of don't give a damn which also was the mood in the late Soviet Union's era. The elites have pushed all the buttons on society and business to cause panicked responses and as a result, people are tuning them out.

Posted by: whig at August 08, 2022 04:51 PM (CXr4y)

437 I worked for a midsized construction outfit with 700 employees. I tabulated the cost of our 15 minute breaks that we were paid for (but not lunch). I was suprised it added up to a substantial dollar amount.

Posted by: Commentor
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Cost centers, etc. accounting are always static models. What they always ignore is the human factor wrecking their pretty mathematical models. In the case of eliminating 15 minute breaks that were paid, you are leaving out whether competitors do it, in that case you will have to up your training budget, workplace accidents that could increase which wrecks your workman's comp insurance rates, and resting on the clock which decreases productivity, increases supervisory costs, and so on.

That is why those management consultants leave corporations as a shell because they use static analyses and figure that people will adjust to whatever stupidity they have cooked up.

Posted by: whig at August 08, 2022 04:56 PM (CXr4y)

438 Who wants to go into the office to be harassed and overwatched by HR and told they are pieces of privileged shit by DIE Officers at mandatory reeducation seminars?

Posted by: Thirdtwin at August 08, 2022 05:12 PM (BH/Ti)

439 Until my late father worked for the County Road Dept he had Radio and TV repair service when they still used the old Vacuum Tubes

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at August 08, 2022 06:53 PM (wGqjj)

440 So I've worked at probly 20 different jobs/contract/selfemployment situations in my 62 years of existence. Employee/manager/ind contractor/ in office/ inthe field/ at home. You name it. Now I've got some ADD so take that into account. This sounds contradictory, but
1. I don't like people telling me what to do
2. If I don't something to do, or place to be, like on a schedule I'm screwed
3. Actual human, preferably face to face interaction-
very helpful and validating.
4. Money, "purpose/belonging", too, but secondary to actual planning & doing.

Anyways, been selling the family's Apples at LA's Farmers Markets the past 10 years. Work out of the home, my van, my Markets. Answerable to myself, customers, Mkt Managers & the govt, in that order. Best job I've ever had
m

Posted by: smokedaddy at August 08, 2022 07:46 PM (dQFNx)

441 Gladwell's really being autistic or obtuse? Seriously, my life working from home has liberated me from pointless meetings, poindexter middle managers, obnoxious Karen. I have the autonomy to organize my work day and I'm more empowered. I'm treated as an adult and not some slacker stealing the employer's time.

Also Gladwell has never commuted to work especially in the winter. Yeah, I want to waste 1+ of my life commuting to the cubicle pen just to please the pointdexters and karens so they can micromanage, scold me and impose a social credit system.
Yeah. No

Posted by: Xavier Basora at August 08, 2022 09:14 PM (HZCl6)

442 363 - "Houston, Texas. Where Friday afternoon rush hour starts Thursday morning. "

Hehehehehehehehe - and Nascar SLACKERS are sent to Dallas for remedial training!

Posted by: Katfish at August 08, 2022 11:24 PM (WQKoE)

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