Mid-Morning Art Thread

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In The Rain
Franz Marc

Posted by: CBD at 09:30 AM




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1 Wet dog smell.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 11, 2022 09:30 AM (LsEU/)

2 1st

Posted by: Skip's phone at August 11, 2022 09:30 AM (hlWdX)

3 Sorry Skip!

Posted by: Tonypete at August 11, 2022 09:31 AM (LsEU/)

4 Who'll stop it?

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at August 11, 2022 09:31 AM (Ii2Zh)

5 Dentist office art?

Or Hotel hallway art?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 11, 2022 09:31 AM (LvTSG)

6 Aliens!

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 11, 2022 09:31 AM (U2p+3)

7 Makes my eyes water.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 11, 2022 09:31 AM (7bRMQ)

8 Love this. Would hang in my office. The colors would work perfectly.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2022 09:31 AM (45fpk)

9 Guy got crazy with the paint

Posted by: Skip's phone at August 11, 2022 09:32 AM (hlWdX)

10 Doggo does not look happy.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 11, 2022 09:32 AM (RkC6l)

11 You know, I think Franz is pissing down our backs.

Posted by: The Art World at August 11, 2022 09:32 AM (7bRMQ)

12 would not hang

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at August 11, 2022 09:32 AM (sJHOI)

13 At least there's a tree

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 11, 2022 09:32 AM (sRUs0)

14 Very cool painting

Posted by: 496 at August 11, 2022 09:32 AM (VJsqe)

15 Looks like a Maidenform bra in the center.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2022 09:33 AM (45fpk)

16 Needed: enough sense to get out of it.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at August 11, 2022 09:33 AM (Ii2Zh)

17 Awright! 'Fess up, Morons! Which one of you spiked the clouds with LSD?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 11, 2022 09:33 AM (YIVH2)

18 Is that in Spain?

Posted by: fd at August 11, 2022 09:33 AM (sn5EN)

19 In the rain in Spain, got no brain, going insane.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 11, 2022 09:33 AM (W/9Bb)

20 ON ABSTRACT ART - a limeriick

There was a young man from colormumble
Who didn't know quite how to rectanglesmear
He swervy perspectived
And vague shapified
Hang on the wall this => side up.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2022 09:33 AM (kXYt5)

21 And now, the five year forecast . . . .

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Survived the Mar-A-Lago Raid at August 11, 2022 09:33 AM (FVME7)

22 Someone left the dog out in the rain

Posted by: redridinghood at August 11, 2022 09:34 AM (NpAcC)

23 I don't see de plane.

Posted by: fd at August 11, 2022 09:34 AM (sn5EN)

24 15 Looks like a Maidenform bra in the center.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2022 09:33 AM (45fpk)
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Do you cross your heart?

Posted by: 496 at August 11, 2022 09:34 AM (VJsqe)

25 Not bad for modern art.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 11, 2022 09:34 AM (b2nrj)

26 The redhead lady is kinda hot

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 11, 2022 09:34 AM (sRUs0)

27
Killed at Verdun. His name was on a list of artists to be removed from combat assignments but orders didn't reach him in time.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 11, 2022 09:34 AM (1Nxff)

28 Muldoon has triggered my puzzler.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2022 09:34 AM (45fpk)

29 If you stirred this painting, would it turn white???

Posted by: kraken at August 11, 2022 09:34 AM (Vr12I)

30 This is dope. Would hang.

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 11, 2022 09:34 AM (FF+On)

31 Acid Rain

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 11, 2022 09:34 AM (BFigT)

32 Has a dog = art.

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 11, 2022 09:34 AM (yikp0)

33 " Awright! 'Fess up, Morons! Which one of you spiked the clouds with LSD?
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel "

It's acid rain.

Posted by: fd at August 11, 2022 09:34 AM (sn5EN)

34 Whoa! An abatract Limerick!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Survived the Mar-A-Lago Raid at August 11, 2022 09:35 AM (FVME7)

35 I don't see any cake out in that rain. The cake may be a lie.

Posted by: 496 at August 11, 2022 09:35 AM (VJsqe)

36 Peter Max - The Early Years-

Posted by: kraken at August 11, 2022 09:35 AM (Vr12I)

37 whose b!tch this is?

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at August 11, 2022 09:35 AM (sJHOI)

38 *tips hat to Martini Farmer*

Posted by: fd at August 11, 2022 09:35 AM (sn5EN)

39 If you stirred this painting, would it turn white???

Posted by: kraken at August 11, 2022 09:34 AM (Vr12I)

If you mix all the colors, you get a dark green.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 11, 2022 09:35 AM (7bRMQ)

40 Hot Dumpster Fire...

Would Hang.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 11, 2022 09:36 AM (2CExO)

41 Love it. I see a woman's face, a dog and a koi(I think). Anyone see anything else?

Posted by: Tuna at August 11, 2022 09:36 AM (gLRfa)

42
Big fan of the "Blue Rider" movement. If you're ever in NYC and a museum-goer, the Lauder Museum is a must-see IMHO. Small and not a cheap ticket but every artwork makes it worth the cost.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 11, 2022 09:36 AM (x0n13)

43 I'm not sure that's a dog. It's sheep-like.

Posted by: fd at August 11, 2022 09:36 AM (sn5EN)

44 I spotted the umbrella and the toothbrush, but can't find the comb. Help.

(Hey, this thread is the Highlight of my day, most days)

Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2022 09:36 AM (kXYt5)

45 The knight in shining armor advances through the bloody jungle. With his dog at his side.

Posted by: JustSalt at August 11, 2022 09:37 AM (7IwNT)

46 Has a dog = art.
Posted by: andycanuck

Great artistic subjects are not appreciated in their own lifetime.

Posted by: dogs playing cards at August 11, 2022 09:37 AM (cY9wR)

47 Big fan of the "Blue Rider" movement.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 11, 2022 09:36 AM (x0n13)


Me too.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2022 09:37 AM (45fpk)

48 Love it. I see a woman's face, a dog and a koi(I think). Anyone see anything else?

Posted by: Tuna at August 11, 2022 09:36 AM (gLRfa)

Blow up wavy man has a scared look on his face. Next to the lady's head. He's red.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at August 11, 2022 09:37 AM (7bRMQ)

49 So basically he painted this and then left it out in the rain.

Posted by: fd at August 11, 2022 09:37 AM (sn5EN)

50 42
Big fan of the "Blue Rider" movement. If you're ever in NYC and a museum-goer, the Lauder Museum is a must-see IMHO. Small and not a cheap ticket but every artwork makes it worth the cost.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 11, 2022 09:36 AM (x0n13)

Is this a bit of Pining for the Fjiords???

Posted by: kraken at August 11, 2022 09:37 AM (Vr12I)

51 *grabs black light and bong*

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 11, 2022 09:37 AM (W/9Bb)

52 Oy!

Posted by: runner at August 11, 2022 09:37 AM (2igD3)

53 So where's the cake?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at August 11, 2022 09:37 AM (906pl)

54 I see two women's faces.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 11, 2022 09:38 AM (LsEU/)

55 I see a headache.

Posted by: runner at August 11, 2022 09:39 AM (2igD3)

56 Round, like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel
Never ending or beginning on an ever-spinning reel
Like a snowball down a mountain or a carnival balloon
Like a carousel that's turning, running rings around the moon
Like a clock whose hands are sweeping past the minutes of its face
And the world is like an apple whirling silently in space
Like the circles that you find in the windmills of your mind

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Survived the Mar-A-Lago Raid at August 11, 2022 09:39 AM (FVME7)

57 Yuck. Or Ick. Either one works for this “art.”

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 11, 2022 09:39 AM (MyP/f)

58 Alternate Title: Rejected Wall Paper Pattern #9

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 11, 2022 09:39 AM (5pTK/)

59 I kinda like this one. The forms and the transitions are intriguing. Like the color palette. Is this huge? If it isn't too awfully big I could find room for it on my wall.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 11, 2022 09:39 AM (w45Ez)

60 41 Love it. I see a woman's face, a dog and a koi(I think). Anyone see anything else?
Posted by: Tuna at August 11, 2022 09:36 AM (gLRfa)

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Once you see the red Solo cup in the dead center you can't unsee it.

Posted by: 496 at August 11, 2022 09:39 AM (VJsqe)

61 I see an exotic-looking redhead off to the left, and smooth white dog in lower right. Quite possibly I would discover more things if I had a print of this at home.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 11, 2022 09:39 AM (J2vNu)

62 I spotted the umbrella and the toothbrush, but can't find the comb. Help. (Hey, this thread is the Highlight of my day, most days) Posted by: Muldoon

Makes me want to go sit in a doctor office lobby for an hour

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 11, 2022 09:40 AM (FF+On)

63 Big fan of the "Blue Rider" movement.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 11, 2022 09:36 AM (x0n13)
Me too.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2022 09:37 AM (45fpk)
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Me three.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 11, 2022 09:40 AM (MIKMs)

64 There's a blue door behind them. Maybe they should get OUT of the rain.

Posted by: fd at August 11, 2022 09:40 AM (sn5EN)

65 I saw The Abatract Limericks at IrishFest '17 in Pittsburgh.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at August 11, 2022 09:40 AM (Ii2Zh)

66 WTF is this?!

Posted by: Harris K Telemacher at August 11, 2022 09:40 AM (llON8)

67 Jimmy Buffet now does art?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 11, 2022 09:40 AM (5pTK/)

68 I see a prairie dog and a Japanese flag.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 11, 2022 09:40 AM (W/9Bb)

69 Rain rain go away

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2022 09:40 AM (63Dwl)

70 Once you see the red Solo cup in the dead center you can't unsee it.
Posted by: 496 at August 11, 2022


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There's a hominid face attached to it. The red looks like the cheek patches of a mandrill baboon.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 11, 2022 09:41 AM (J2vNu)

71 Lady probably waiting for her dog to go potty in the rain... which probably isn't going to happen... cause it's raining.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 11, 2022 09:41 AM (NpAcC)

72 Muldoon - the abstract limerick is next-level. Great one!

Posted by: 496 at August 11, 2022 09:41 AM (VJsqe)

73 It's the thousand year storm they are always going on about.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at August 11, 2022 09:41 AM (sRUs0)

74 I knew I shouldn't have hired Larry, Moe, and Curly to paint the house.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Survived the Mar-A-Lago Raid at August 11, 2022 09:41 AM (FVME7)

75 I kinda like it. My yard looks like this after 2-1/2" of rain (finally).

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2022 09:41 AM (cTCuP)

76 *grabs black light and bong*
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory


It's far too early for that shit ... fine, ugh...
* flips through Zepplin ... *

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 11, 2022 09:41 AM (IEa8U)

77 If you're ever in NYC and a museum-goer, the Lauder Museum is a must-see IMHO.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton


*********

You can take the boy out of The City, but you can't take The City out of the boy!

Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2022 09:42 AM (kXYt5)

78 Seriously, though, nice bright splashes of color, and, well, a puppy.

Who doesn't like puppies?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 11, 2022 09:42 AM (5pTK/)

79 There's got to be at least one boob in there somewhere.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 11, 2022 09:42 AM (PnkSq)

80 It's raining cats and dogs.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 11, 2022 09:42 AM (NpAcC)

81 I knew I shouldn't have hired Larry, Moe, and Curly to paint the house.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Or fix the plumbing.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 11, 2022 09:42 AM (LsEU/)

82 22 Someone left the dog out in the rain

Posted by: redridinghood at August 11, 2022 09:34 AM (NpAcC)
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I said it was a cake.

Posted by: Richard Harris at August 11, 2022 09:42 AM (qfLjt)

83 The artist is one of the people who took the brown acid.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 11, 2022 09:42 AM (Qhnrt)

84 I see snow peas and corn on the cob.

Posted by: kraken at August 11, 2022 09:42 AM (Vr12I)

85 Who doesn't like puppies?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 11, 2022 09:42 AM (5pTK/)

Raises hand.

Posted by: Tony Fauci at August 11, 2022 09:42 AM (7bRMQ)

86 The color immediately grabbed me and wouldn't let go. Then I saw the intermittent fractals. The dark face in the middle is rather intimidating. Thank you, CBD.

Would definitely hang.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 11, 2022 09:42 AM (MIKMs)

87 I'm not sure which is more abstract...the painting or Muldoon's limerick.

Posted by: creeper at August 11, 2022 09:43 AM (cTCuP)

88 There's got to be at least one boob in there somewhere.
Posted by: ShainS

Isn't standard issue a pair or multiple pair?

Posted by: Tonypete at August 11, 2022 09:43 AM (LsEU/)

89 *grabs black light and bong*
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 11, 2022 09:37 AM (W/9Bb)

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heh.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing(5pTK/) at August 11, 2022 09:43 AM (5pTK/)

90 spotted the umbrella and the toothbrush, but can't find the comb. Help.

(Hey, this thread is the Highlight of my day, most days)
Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2022 09:36 AM (kXYt5)

I found Jonny Weismueller! Right between Paul and ringos heads. Just below Marilyn

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 11, 2022 09:43 AM (MFphb)

91 Where is the Pope in the Pizza?

Posted by: kraken at August 11, 2022 09:44 AM (Vr12I)

92 Muldoon - the abstract limerick is next-level. Great one!
Posted by: 496


******

Thanks. I pull that one out and dust it off on occasion. It's probably one of my Top Ten all-time favorites.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2022 09:44 AM (kXYt5)

93 Love it. I see a woman's face, a dog and a koi(I think). Anyone see anything else?
Posted by: Tuna at August 11, 2022


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That koi may be the longest ever born!

Dead center I see a mandrill's face with the red cheek patches. And there is something black-and-orange just to the right of center, 5/6 of the way to the top. Halloween candy?

The fact that we are all pulling different things out of this suggests that it's an effective piece of art, or can be.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 11, 2022 09:45 AM (J2vNu)

94 Something like a blue-gray tomahawk to the right, not far above the dog.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 11, 2022 09:45 AM (J2vNu)

95 Huh.

I think this must be an abstract analogy for Hiroshima.

Note the distorted Japanese flag in the center preceded over by the American flag.

I like the bright colors and the painting itself, but it's kind of sad making-

like Ronald McDonald on fire.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 11, 2022 09:45 AM (5NkmN)

96 This reminds me a lot of the produce aisle at Walmart.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 11, 2022 09:46 AM (J2vNu)

97 A green fish in the upper right corner.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 11, 2022 09:46 AM (LsEU/)

98 You said keep your eyes out of focus, which is misleading. You want DEEP focus!

Posted by: Mr Pitt at August 11, 2022 09:46 AM (yikp0)

99
I found Jonny Weismueller! Right between Paul and ringos heads. Just below Marilyn
Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 11, 2022 09:43 AM (MFphb)

Caught Tarzan on TCM the other evening. Maureen O'Sullivan is a yum!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at August 11, 2022 09:46 AM (906pl)

100 It captures very well the initial chaos/confusion when caught in a sudden, drenching downpour.

Posted by: 496 at August 11, 2022 09:46 AM (VJsqe)

101 Compared to artist yesterday guy guy paid by the color

Posted by: Skip's phone at August 11, 2022 09:47 AM (hlWdX)

102 It captures very well the initial chaos/confusion when caught in a sudden, drenching downpour during an acid trip.

Fixed it for you.

Posted by: Once More With Feeling at August 11, 2022 09:47 AM (9mLZT)

103 I get a stained glass vibe. Also a bit of light headedness from the weed.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 11, 2022 09:48 AM (BFigT)

104 Would hang.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 11, 2022 09:48 AM (g1EEm)

105 Bus stop, wet day, she's there, I say
"Please, share my umbrella"

Posted by: 496 at August 11, 2022 09:48 AM (VJsqe)

106 There's got to be at least one boob in there somewhere.
Posted by: ShainS

Isn't standard issue a pair or multiple pair?
Posted by: Tonypete at August 11, 2022 09:43 AM (LsEU/)

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Hey, it's abstract -- work with me here. A boob in the hand is better than two in the bush?

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 11, 2022 09:48 AM (PnkSq)

107 Hey there's a doggie in the lower right corner.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at August 11, 2022 09:48 AM (eGTCV)

108 No bewbies again.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 11, 2022 09:49 AM (8Sqzu)

109 The most interesting part to me is how it contradicts itself. It's a rainy, dreary day, yet the colors are bright and pure and only slightly blended. The lines and shapes are jagged and dramatic, but the subject is pretty laid-back. The figures don't seem to be in a hurry to get out of the rain.

Another interesting thing is how the mood seems to shift from left to right. The colors change from dominant warms to all dominant cools.

I like this painting. There's a lot going on here.

Posted by: Kris at August 11, 2022 09:49 AM (OyyDO)

110 I see a cornfield.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 11, 2022 09:49 AM (NpAcC)

111 106 There's got to be at least one boob in there somewhere.
Posted by: ShainS

Isn't standard issue a pair or multiple pair?
Posted by: Tonypete at August 11, 2022 09:43 AM (LsEU/)

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Hey, it's abstract -- work with me here. A boob in the hand is better than two in the bush?
Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 11, 2022 09:48 AM (PnkSq)

What if it's a painting of a bush?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 11, 2022 09:49 AM (b2nrj)

112 Also a bit of light headedness from the weed.
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Franz painted with Straw??

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at August 11, 2022 09:49 AM (yikp0)

113 95 You write “Ronald McDonald on fire” as if that would be a bad thing.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 11, 2022 09:49 AM (MyP/f)

114 Hey, it's abstract -- work with me here. A boob in the hand is better than two in the bush?
Posted by: ShainS

I thought the choice was a bust in the mouth or a crack in the teeth.

The things you learn here. . .

Posted by: Tonypete at August 11, 2022 09:49 AM (LsEU/)

115 I can't see it, Elaine!

Posted by: Mr. Pitt at August 11, 2022 09:49 AM (Ii2Zh)

116 No bewbies again.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 11, 2022 09:49 AM (8Sqzu)


There's a Maidenform bra dead center.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2022 09:50 AM (45fpk)

117 Woman and her dog burying a body?

Like the colors so I'd hang in a large bathroom.

Posted by: Lola at August 11, 2022 09:50 AM (NIYa7)

118 I see skies of blue
And clouds of white...

Posted by: runner at August 11, 2022 09:50 AM (2igD3)

119 Would paint on the side of my Free Candy van.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 11, 2022 09:50 AM (yQpMk)

120 Looks like the artist tried for some realism, couldn't do it, and then said ah, fuck it.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 11, 2022 09:51 AM (Qhnrt)

121 What if it's a painting of a bush?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

One of my fellow students in kollege turned in a photography assignment - "In the shadow of the bush"

It was exactly what you might imagine it would be.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 11, 2022 09:51 AM (LsEU/)

122 It's easy to criticize a lot of what we consider modern art because most of it looks like an afterthought.

That's why I like this artist...he put real effort into it.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 11, 2022 09:51 AM (XIJ/X)

123 Free fall looks like this?

Posted by: Ziba at August 11, 2022 09:51 AM (4h9M3)

124 There's a Maidenform bra dead center.
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Are we talking torpedoes?

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 11, 2022 09:52 AM (8Sqzu)

125 56 Round, like a circle in a spiral, like a wheel within a wheel
Never ending or beginning on an ever-spinning reel
Like a snowball down a mountain or a carnival balloon
Like a carousel that's turning, running rings around the moon
Like a clock whose hands are sweeping past the minutes of its face
And the world is like an apple whirling silently in space
Like the circles that you find in the windmills of your mind

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Survived the Mar-A-Lago Raid at August 11, 2022 09:39 AM (FVME7)
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A great song and it has clean lyrics that make sense!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEhS9Y9HYjU

Posted by: Ciampino - I see many other covers at August 11, 2022 09:52 AM (qfLjt)

126 Y'all may laugh, but true story: Yesterday I made a grilled cheese sandwich and it had Bob Marley's face on it. Or Jesus. One of the two.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2022 09:52 AM (kXYt5)

127 It's stuff like this that makes wine moms think they are artists.

Posted by: Flyover at August 11, 2022 09:52 AM (Rbu5d)

128 I like it.

Posted by: sidney at August 11, 2022 09:53 AM (Uy/WF)

129 I see dead people.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 11, 2022 09:53 AM (sWM8x)

130 Anyway, Marc failed: I can tell there's a dog in the picture.

Posted by: Flyover at August 11, 2022 09:53 AM (Rbu5d)

131 Caught Tarzan on TCM the other evening. Maureen O'Sullivan is a yum!
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at August 11, 2022


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There was a good reason why those two *were* Tarzan and Jane to an entire generation.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 11, 2022 09:53 AM (J2vNu)

132 Y'all may laugh, but true story: Yesterday I made a grilled cheese sandwich and it had Bob Marley's face on it. Or Jesus. One of the two.

Posted by: Muldoon


Jesus? What the hell was the yard guy doing on your sandwich?

Posted by: Brother Tim...as the man said, the die is cast at August 11, 2022 09:53 AM (OUMaO)

133 10 Doggo does not look happy.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 11, 2022 09:32 AM (RkC6l)
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Is it a dog, or is it Al 'crazed sex poodle' Gore?

Posted by: 496 at August 11, 2022 09:54 AM (VJsqe)

134 Note also for the Hiroshima analogy of this painting theory, how -

all the figures are dissolving in the rain. As if the rain is eliminating them.

Black rain is dreary and dull. Happy fun rain is attention grabbing.

Yep, this is a very clever piece of political art.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 11, 2022 09:54 AM (5NkmN)

135 126 Y'all may laugh, but true story: Yesterday I made a grilled cheese sandwich and it had Bob Marley's face on it. Or Jesus. One of the two.
Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2022 09:52 AM (kXYt5)

Did you take pics and post it on Facebook?

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 11, 2022 09:56 AM (Qhnrt)

136 Note also for the Hiroshima analogy of this painting theory,


He died in 1918, however.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2022 09:56 AM (45fpk)

137 The Biden administration is defending a federal ban on gun-ownership for medical marijuana users, urging a federal judge to dismiss a challenge to the statute.

Medical marijuana users should be prohibited from owning guns because the substance impairs the "judgment, cognition, and physical coordination" of those under its influence, lawyers for the Justice Department argued.

In their zeal to restrict guns, the Biden Administration is attacking part of their own base.

Posted by: SMOD at August 11, 2022 09:56 AM (RHGPo)

138 Nice use of colors.

Posted by: Rothko at August 11, 2022 09:56 AM (m7R0k)

139 Y'all may laugh, but true story: Yesterday I made a grilled cheese sandwich and it had Bob Marley's face on it. Or Jesus. One of the two.

Posted by: Muldoon


Sorry, mate. It was me on your sandwich.

Posted by: Zombie John Lennon at August 11, 2022 09:56 AM (5NkmN)

140 Would not want to wake up with a hangover and look at that.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 11, 2022 09:56 AM (mByV7)

141 Meh, looks like an Aloha shirt to me.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2022 09:56 AM (/NCI4)

142 Chic on the left is all sweetness and positive attitude. She's attainable, but ultimately will turn out boring. She's my backup plan.

Chic in the middle, however, has some angst. Maybe even some daddy issues. I suspect she can be naughty. I'll hit on her first.

Posted by: Once More With Feeling at August 11, 2022 09:56 AM (9mLZT)

143
Someone left a cake out in the rain ...

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 11, 2022 09:56 AM (pNxlR)

144 8 I see skies of blue
And clouds of white...
Posted by: runner at August 11, 2022 0


***
I've looked clouds from both sides now,
From up and down,
And they still stink!

(-- Original lyrics of "Both Sides Now")

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 11, 2022 09:57 AM (J2vNu)

145 Is it a dog, or is it Al 'crazed sex poodle' Gore?
---
It might be a rabbit. A very horny rabbit.

Posted by: Jimmah Cartah at August 11, 2022 09:57 AM (sWM8x)

146 I thought it was a polar bear.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 11, 2022 09:58 AM (U2p+3)

147
Dead center I see a mandrill's face

Barbara?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2022 09:58 AM (63Dwl)

148 145 Is it a dog, or is it Al 'crazed sex poodle' Gore?
---
It might be a rabbit. A very horny rabbit.
Posted by: Jimmah Cartah at August 11, 2022 09:57 AM (sWM8x)

"Look at the bones!"

- Tim the Enchanter

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at August 11, 2022 09:58 AM (906pl)

149 Y'all may laugh, but true story: Yesterday I made a grilled cheese sandwich and it had Bob Marley's face on it. Or Jesus. One of the two.

Posted by: Muldoon

Sorry, mate. It was me on your sandwich.

Posted by: Zombie John Lennon


Dude, I thought you were bigger than that...

Posted by: Brother Tim...as the man said, the die is cast at August 11, 2022 09:59 AM (OUMaO)

150
I see the storm. Where are the riders?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 11, 2022 09:59 AM (pNxlR)

151 Someone left a cake out in the rain
-----------------------------
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe... Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion... I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like icing in rain... Time to die.

Posted by: Roy Batty at August 11, 2022 09:59 AM (yikp0)

152 Y'all may laugh, but true story: Yesterday I made a grilled cheese sandwich and it had Bob Marley's face on it. Or Jesus. One of the two.

Posted by: Muldoon

There's a fine line between Marley and Jesus. Unfortunately, Hunter Biden snorted it.

Posted by: Roy at August 11, 2022 09:59 AM (Phd8w)

153 1916. Sorry.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2022 10:00 AM (45fpk)

154 Note also for the Hiroshima analogy of this painting theory,
He died in 1918, however.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2022 09:56 AM (45fpk)


Fine, fine.

He binged on absinthe and saw the future.*

After all, we are now living in the Twilight Zone.


*Clinging to untenable theory like Hillary! to a full bottle of vodka.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 11, 2022 10:00 AM (5NkmN)

155 This painting shows the dichotomy of man's emotional struggle with post modernism...

I did an interpretive dance (naked) on the same subject.

Posted by: jwest at August 11, 2022 10:00 AM (/BlEx)

156 The oil rain of Delaware.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2022 10:01 AM (63Dwl)

157 I was close to buying the whole WWII thing, then Grammie Winger killed the shit out of it.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 11, 2022 10:02 AM (sWM8x)

158 This artwork is the sort of thing that if it hangs in a gallery viewers would stop and look and try to see the hidden imagery. If it were hanging in the hallway at an office building or hotel people would walk right by with only a vague impression of bright cheerful colors.

I actually like it in that sense.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2022 10:02 AM (kXYt5)

159 I didn’t realize France used marcs.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 11, 2022 10:02 AM (MyP/f)

160 Slanty.

Posted by: red speck at August 11, 2022 10:03 AM (gS3OW)

161
I didn’t realize France used marcs.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus


They used Marx.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2022 10:03 AM (63Dwl)

162 I was close to buying the whole WWII thing, then Grammie Winger killed the shit out of it.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 11, 2022 10:02 AM (sWM8x)


It's what I do.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2022 10:03 AM (45fpk)

163 I see a dog, a parrot, an ear of corn and a fish.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at August 11, 2022 10:04 AM (eGTCV)

164 I see a dog, a parrot, an ear of corn and a fish.
Posted by: N.L. Urker

We could make stone soup!
-- Obumbles

Posted by: Tonypete at August 11, 2022 10:04 AM (LsEU/)

165
*Clinging to untenable theory like Hillary! to a full bottle of vodka.


It was CLEARLY an analogy to the Garland / Wray raid on Mar-a-Lago.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2022 10:05 AM (/NCI4)

166 So where's the sniper?

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 11, 2022 10:06 AM (Qhnrt)

167 She's wearing a raspberry beret

Posted by: 496 at August 11, 2022 10:06 AM (VJsqe)

168 >>Dentist office art?


Heh, my dentist has Bev Dolittle prints:

https://tinyurl.com/5fw9x2ja

Posted by: Lizzy at August 11, 2022 10:06 AM (I/doM)

169 I've looked clouds from both sides now,
From up and down,
And they still stink!

(-- Original lyrics of "Both Sides Now")
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

I've seen clouds coming down the line,
Better mow the lawn,
Before the rain.

(Early demo version of "Riding Lawn Mower")

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 11, 2022 10:06 AM (FF+On)

170 127 It's stuff like this that makes wine moms think they are artists.
Posted by: Flyover at August 11, 2022 09:52 AM (Rbu5d)


You ever heard of Paint Nite? Sort of this franchise thing where wine moms get together for an evening, get tipsy on adult beverages, and try to paint something like this. I have no idea how they avoid the liability from the moms driving home afterwards. Before the lung rot it was very popular in these parts.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at August 11, 2022 10:06 AM (PJAVg)

171
Walking on broken glass

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 11, 2022 10:06 AM (pNxlR)

172 If this was one of those pieces where if you stare at it long enough, it turns 3-D, then *that* would be art. Or maybe if you hung it in the corner of the room with one of those nice grecian statue ceiling lamps -- the ones with the strings around the perimeter that change color and have the droplets of oil cascading down? That would be wicked classy.

Posted by: red speck at August 11, 2022 10:07 AM (gS3OW)

173 Dentist office art?

You know you're 29 when your dentist office plays music from the 60s and 70s.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2022 10:07 AM (/NCI4)

174 It was CLEARLY an analogy to the Garland / Wray raid on Mar-a-Lago.
---
WE DON'T CALL IT A RAID!

Posted by: Every CommieHomo Newsreader on TV at August 11, 2022 10:07 AM (sWM8x)

175 The FBI raided Miralax?

Must’ve been really constipated.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 11, 2022 10:07 AM (MyP/f)

176 I thought the "animal" in the painting was a lamb.. I do like the bright colors...On a different note... The FBI is now the victim in the Trump home raid ? FFS

Posted by: It's me donna at August 11, 2022 10:08 AM (bs+z0)

177
Wine Mons always do their best work while hammered - just ask them.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 11, 2022 10:08 AM (pNxlR)

178 Posted by: moon_over_vermont at August 11, 2022 10:06 AM (PJAVg)

--------
My wife did the "Paint-n-Sip" a couple times. She's actually kind of artistic, so we hung one of them.

Posted by: 496 at August 11, 2022 10:08 AM (VJsqe)

179 I looked up the Battle of Verdun, where Marc was killed. It was the longest battle of WW1, fought on the western front of France from February to December of 1916.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2022 10:09 AM (45fpk)

180 The painting, it has no boobs!

Posted by: Ciampino - I see streaky paint. Happens when painting in the shower. at August 11, 2022 10:09 AM (qfLjt)

181 Now some local outfit is doing "Uke-n-sip". I guess you play ukulele while you get sloshed. I bet it sounds awful.

Posted by: 496 at August 11, 2022 10:10 AM (VJsqe)

182 It's stuff like this that makes wine moms think they are artists.
Posted by: Flyover at August 11, 2022 09:52 AM (Rbu5d)

You ever heard of Paint Nite? Sort of this franchise thing where wine moms get together for an evening, get tipsy on adult beverages, and try to paint something like this. I have no idea how they avoid the liability from the moms driving home afterwards. Before the lung rot it was very popular in these parts.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at August 11, 2022 10:06 AM (PJAVg)


I thought that's what CABI "parties" were for.

Drinking wine, buying over-priced clothes and telling each other how great the other is in that dreamy pants suit.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 11, 2022 10:10 AM (5NkmN)

183 Willowed

443 It is true though. The worst republican is still 100 times better than any Dem. Manchin proved this recently.

Not one republican voted for this new commie bill


I got a newsletter from Bob Casey this morning touring how great this bill was... and he'll be touring PA to hear our thoughts...

...ponders...

Posted by: Rochelle, Rochelle (formerly Roxanne, Roxanne) at August 11, 2022 10:10 AM (szWS4)

184 172 If this was one of those pieces where if you stare at it long enough, it turns 3-D, then *that* would be art. Or maybe if you hung it in the corner of the room with one of those nice grecian statue ceiling lamps -- the ones with the strings around the perimeter that change color and have the droplets of oil cascading down? That would be wicked classy.
Posted by: red speck at August 11, 2022 10:07 AM (gS3OW)

Or behind a lava lamp. Freaky, man.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 11, 2022 10:10 AM (Qhnrt)

185 Gwen Verdun was married to Bob Fosse.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 11, 2022 10:10 AM (MyP/f)

186 I looked up the Battle of Verdun, where Marc was killed. It was the longest battle of WW1, fought on the western front of France from February to December of 1916.

It was an absolute abattoir. The Germans had the bright idea that they would bleed the French white there, and while they certainly did that, they also did it to themselves.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2022 10:10 AM (/NCI4)

187 Wine Mons always do their best work while hammered . . . Posted by: Krebs v Carnot

The Paolo has, how you say, noticed this also.

Posted by: The Paolo at August 11, 2022 10:10 AM (LsEU/)

188 The FBI is now the victim in the Trump home raid? FFS
Posted by: It's me donna

The FBI suing President Trump for entrapment is the obvious next development.

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 11, 2022 10:11 AM (FF+On)

189

1971. Acid rain. They're meeeeltingggg....

Posted by: Ken Shabby at August 11, 2022 10:11 AM (ub2FJ)

190 Great podcast, J.J.!

Posted by: KT at August 11, 2022 10:11 AM (rrtZS)

191 Looks like a David Sanborn, mid 80's album cover

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at August 11, 2022 10:12 AM (flINI)

192 It was an absolute abattoir. The Germans had the bright idea that they would bleed the French white there, and while they certainly did that, they also did it to themselves.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2022 10:10 AM (/NCI4)


I think that WW1 was the most horrible of wars.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2022 10:12 AM (45fpk)

193 I looked up the Battle of Verdun, where Marc was killed. It was the longest battle of WW1, fought on the western front of France from February to December of 1916.
Posted by: grammie winger


*******

Okay, folks, that's a thread winner. Wrap it up! Verdun here...

Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2022 10:12 AM (kXYt5)

194 I like it!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 11, 2022 10:12 AM (wvo9L)

195

187 Wine Mons, very tasty.

Posted by: Ken Shabby at August 11, 2022 10:12 AM (ub2FJ)

196 FBI 1: Shit! Hunter's laptop is at the front door! Go around!
FBI 2: No good! Hillary's server is at the back door! Somebody fucked up! Go back! GO BACK!
FBI 3: Guys ... the gate we came through ... it has Obama's pallet of cash ...
FBI 4: *tears* BROKEN ARROW! REPEAT BROKEN ARROW!

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 11, 2022 10:12 AM (44ww/)

197 Cool technique, but weird.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 11, 2022 10:12 AM (VwHCD)

198 At least it has a puppy in it.

Posted by: jewells45 at August 11, 2022 10:13 AM (nxdel)

199 Gwen Verdun was married to Bob Fosse.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

I didn't really 'discover' her until "Cocoon" and then started checking out her previous work.

Wowza.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 11, 2022 10:13 AM (LsEU/)

200 Drought easing rain came yesterday. 2.5 inches of much needed relief. It came with a cold front so high temps of low 90's the next few days instead of high 90's.

Posted by: Count de Monet #TeamPublius at August 11, 2022 10:13 AM (4I/2K)

201 It was CLEARLY an analogy to the Garland / Wray raid on Mar-a-Lago.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 11, 2022 10:05 AM (/NCI4)


Oh...yeah. I see it now!

You're right!

Man, do I feel foolish.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 11, 2022 10:13 AM (5NkmN)

202 Bob Casey is an oxygen thief and a piece of shit.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 11, 2022 10:13 AM (W/9Bb)

203 Now some local outfit is doing "Uke-n-sip". I guess you play ukulele while you get sloshed. I bet it sounds awful.

Posted by: 496 at August 11, 2022 10:10 AM (VJsqe)

Uke-n-puke.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 11, 2022 10:14 AM (VwHCD)

204 161
I didn’t realize France used marcs.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

They used Marx.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2022 10:03 AM (63Dwl)
----
You mean they've gone woke and use the silly x ending? So they are Latinx, Francaix, Italianx

Posted by: Ciampino - we are Americanx at August 11, 2022 10:14 AM (qfLjt)

205 Now some local outfit is doing "Uke-n-sip". I guess you play ukulele while you get sloshed. I bet it sounds awful.

The main reason I never learned to play any kind of instrument is that I can't stand to hear myself. This might be a way around that. "Of course it sounds awful! Keep playing!"

Posted by: Oddbob at August 11, 2022 10:14 AM (nfrXX)

206 My wife did the "Paint-n-Sip" a couple times. She's actually kind of artistic, so we hung one of them.
Posted by: 496 at August 11, 2022 10:08 AM (VJsqe)


One of our acquaintances ran a Paint Nite branch pre-Covid and she tried out things on her friends so we had several attempts from wifey laying around the house. Last winter we agreed to do something useful with them and salvaged the canvas stretchers for kindling wood.

By the way, haven't forgotten about the drink after work but I seem to be a miserable failure at this slowing down for retirement thing. Eventually I'm hoping enough people will be pissed enough at me telling them 'no' that I may have some free time to do it.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at August 11, 2022 10:15 AM (PJAVg)

207 Would not hang.

Posted by: Squid at August 11, 2022 10:15 AM (wkzCN)

208 Look closely and you'll see an onion tied to his belt, which was the style at the time. But not a white one, we could only get the yellow ones because of the war.

Posted by: Grandpa Simpson at August 11, 2022 10:16 AM (Ii2Zh)

209 I found the naked woman!

Posted by: Roland THTG at August 11, 2022 10:16 AM (j40lz)

210 Unconstitutional FBI must go:

https://tinyurl.com/26e57p7h

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 11, 2022 10:17 AM (wvo9L)

211 This happened on June 24, 2022. NARA is the National Archives.

"John Solomon and Kash Patel have been named NARA representatives. They will work to make available to the American people previously declassified documents that reveal a clear conspiracy to unlawfully spy on candidate and then President Donald J. Trump - by the FBI, DOJ, and others - the largest state-sponsored criminality in American history," said Trump spokesperson Liz Harrington.

https://tinyurl.com/2p8xhzrx

Posted by: JackStraw at August 11, 2022 10:17 AM (ZLI7S)

212 The painting, it has no boobs! Posted by: Ciampino

You owe me.

https://tinyurl.com/2p9merpb

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 11, 2022 10:18 AM (FF+On)

213 Nice painting, Franz Marc. It inspires me.

Posted by: Georgia O'Keeffe at August 11, 2022 10:19 AM (4I/2K)

214 Now some local outfit is doing "Uke-n-sip". I guess you play ukulele while you get sloshed. I bet it sounds awful.

*******

Amateur painting is fine. Amateur ukulele playing could be a downright public health hazard.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2022 10:19 AM (kXYt5)

215
I think that WW1 was the most horrible of wars.
Posted by: grammie winger


Au courant observers of the currently raging War for Tranny Acceptance all agree that there has been a higher incidence of PTSD during it than during any prior war.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 11, 2022 10:19 AM (pNxlR)

216 The Norwegian green parrot is hard to see because he's pining for the fjords.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at August 11, 2022 10:21 AM (eGTCV)

217 211 This happened on June 24, 2022. NARA is the National Archives.

"John Solomon and Kash Patel have been named NARA representatives. They will work to make available to the American people previously declassified documents that reveal a clear conspiracy to unlawfully spy on candidate and then President Donald J. Trump - by the FBI, DOJ, and others - the largest state-sponsored criminality in American history," said Trump spokesperson Liz Harrington.

https://tinyurl.com/2p8xhzrx
Posted by: JackStraw at August 11, 2022 10:17 AM (ZLI7S)

*rubs chin* Hmmm.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 11, 2022 10:22 AM (Qhnrt)

218 Unconstitutional FBI must go:

https://tinyurl.com/26e57p7h


Not much point in clicking that link. a) I'm sure I already agree with it and 2) I'm sure it will never happen.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 11, 2022 10:22 AM (nfrXX)

219 Where does that expression “pining for the fjords” come from?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 11, 2022 10:22 AM (MyP/f)

220 I knew I shouldn't have hired Larry, Moe, and Curly to paint the house.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Or fix the plumbing.
Posted by: Tonypete

"Hey Moe ! Dese pipes are clogged with wiyas !"

Posted by: JT at August 11, 2022 10:22 AM (T4tVD)

221 Ukulele

War crime or music?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2022 10:22 AM (2i0wv)

222 The Norwegian green parrot is hard to see because he's pining for the fjords.
Posted by: N.L. Urker

No, he's uh, 'resting'.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 11, 2022 10:23 AM (LsEU/)

223 Amateur painting is fine. Amateur ukulele playing could be a downright public health hazard.
Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2022 10:19 AM (kXYt5)

Pete Townshend on the uke:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7SliN-82P0

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at August 11, 2022 10:23 AM (PiwSw)

224 "Get Carter" available in 4k today.

A great, perhaps the greatest Limey action flick.

Unfortunately...only available in Limeyland.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 11, 2022 10:23 AM (5NkmN)

225 The FBI suing Trump for entrapment. Can't wait to see that show open.

All I really want to see is Wray show up with a buzz cut one of these days.

Posted by: Ziba at August 11, 2022 10:24 AM (4h9M3)

226 212 The painting, it has no boobs! Posted by: Ciampino

You owe me.

https://tinyurl.com/2p9merpb

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 11, 2022 10:18 AM (FF+On)
----
I have appreciated Alberto Vargas in the past.

Posted by: Ciampino - boobs and butts at August 11, 2022 10:24 AM (qfLjt)

227 Monty Python

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2022 10:24 AM (2i0wv)

228 Where does that expression “pining for the fjords” come from?

* piano music stops *

Posted by: Oddbob at August 11, 2022 10:24 AM (nfrXX)

229 I don't hate it. It feel energetic; seems to be a lot going on.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at August 11, 2022 10:24 AM (sI15f)

230 I think the wine moms should play accordions and bagpipes in addition to ukuleles.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 11, 2022 10:24 AM (MyP/f)

231
Where does that expression “pining for the fjords” come from?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 11, 2022 10:22 AM


The Monty Python "Dead Parrot" sketch

beautiful plumage, the Norwegian Grey

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 11, 2022 10:24 AM (ENBF0)

232
I think that WW1 was the most horrible of wars.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 11, 2022 10:12 AM (45fpk)

It seems incredible but ancient (and more modern) China has had periods of internal warfare with as many or more deaths.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 11, 2022 10:25 AM (b2nrj)

233 The stock market is acting all frisky and it has me thinking I can afford that fuchsia toga I saw at Walmart last week.

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 11, 2022 10:25 AM (FF+On)

234 "He has shuffled off this mortal coil."

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2022 10:26 AM (2i0wv)

235 I think the wine moms should play accordions and bagpipes in addition to ukuleles.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus

*and the squeeze box jokes are unlimbered*

Posted by: Tonypete at August 11, 2022 10:26 AM (LsEU/)

236 233 The stock market is acting all frisky and it has me thinking I can afford that fuchsia toga I saw at Walmart last week.
Posted by: Lost In Space at August 11, 2022 10:25 AM (FF+On)

=========

TOGA!

TOGA!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 11, 2022 10:26 AM (LvTSG)

237
219 Where does that expression “pining for the fjords” come from?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus


Monte Python's Flying Circus, the "Dead Parrot Sketch"

"It's a Norwegian Blue -- beautiful plumage!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 11, 2022 10:26 AM (pNxlR)

238 That maidenform bra in the center of the piece is going to frame the ginga’s cheerful symmetry?

Posted by: Zombie William Blake at August 11, 2022 10:26 AM (56Jkm)

239 It was an absolute abattoir. The Germans had the bright idea that they would bleed the French white there, and while they certainly did that, they also did it to themselves.

Posted by: Archimedes

That's what the German commander, Erich von Falkenhayn, said afterwards but there is a lots informed speculation that that was merely his excuse for failure. Rather a Pee Wee Herman "I meant to do that" moment. Meanwhile, on the other side, General Petain gained his reputation there as the saviour of France. That reputation would later save his life as that was the only reason they didn't hang him for collaborating with the Nazis after the liberation of France.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Survived the Mar-A-Lago Raid at August 11, 2022 10:26 AM (FVME7)

240
Where does that expression “pining for the fjords” come from?

https://youtu.be/vZw35VUBdzo

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2022 10:27 AM (63Dwl)

241 I see a cacophony of color. Not interested.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 11, 2022 10:27 AM (KATBx)

242 Well, that's colorful. And decorative. Would hang.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 11, 2022 10:27 AM (Iw9rj)

243 Where does that expression “pining for the fjords” come from?

******

It's a mangled version of the motto for Dobbins' Auto Body Repair shop in Melbourne.

(read in aussie accent)

"Dobbins, painting for the Fords, mate!"

Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2022 10:28 AM (kXYt5)

244 This painting makes me want to cry.

Posted by: Adam Kinzinger at August 11, 2022 10:28 AM (dgCIf)

245 The stock market is acting all frisky...

Of course. It's an ironclad rule. The market spikes just before my 401k contribution goes in and then tanks in between.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 11, 2022 10:29 AM (nfrXX)

246 "Dobbins, painting for the Fords, mate!"

******

IT'S NOT FUNNY!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBURGER at August 11, 2022 10:29 AM (kXYt5)

247 Frisky?

No Kibbles&Bits?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2022 10:29 AM (2i0wv)

248 So isn't the story on RUSSIA that the poor FIB was fooled by some bad Intel from nefarious political actors?

And so what's the cover story for the raid? That the FIB was acting on Intel?

Hmmm.

Posted by: ... at August 11, 2022 10:30 AM (xjshH)

249
I think that WW1 was the most horrible of wars.
Posted by: grammie winger

____________

The BEF tried to look after the welfare of the troops. Officers were taught to take care of their men first. Units were regularly rotated out of the line. Consequently, the BEF suffered no mutinies and fought hard even during Operation Michael

French officers were brave, but didn't care about their men. Reliefs were rare, pay was low and food was terrible. This caused revolts in 1917.

The Germans left units in line until they were pulverized, then the survivors were pulled out and replaced.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 11, 2022 10:30 AM (1Nxff)

250 Why is it called an ear of corn ?

Posted by: JT at August 11, 2022 10:30 AM (T4tVD)

251 245

Of course. It's an ironclad rule. The market spikes just before my 401k contribution goes in and then tanks in between.
Posted by: Oddbob at August 11, 2022 10:29 AM (nfrXX)

I think there are people who have trading strategies based on things like that. Mutual fund rebalancing and some pension investment activity have known dates iirc.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 11, 2022 10:30 AM (b2nrj)

252 It seems incredible but ancient (and more modern) China has had periods of internal warfare with as many or more deaths.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead!

One thing that commie rat bastard documentarian Ken Burns did in his The Civil War series that I liked was to frequently mention the equal or greater carnage occurring simultaneously in a Chnese rebellion.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Survived the Mar-A-Lago Raid at August 11, 2022 10:30 AM (FVME7)

253 "John Solomon and Kash Patel have been named NARA representatives. They will work to make available to the American people previously declassified documents that reveal a clear conspiracy to unlawfully spy on candidate and then President Donald J. Trump - by the FBI, DOJ, and others - the largest state-sponsored criminality in American history," said Trump spokesperson Liz Harrington.
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Maybe related: Jim Hoft (I know) says there was a binder of documents related to Crossfire Hurricane that cast the FBI in a very bad light. Trump declassified, but DOJ tried everything to prevent its release. It was a matter of discussion between Meadows and DOJ right up until the last day of the Trump administration.

https://tinyurl.com/32c9y6k5

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 11, 2022 10:31 AM (sWM8x)

254 Posted by: moon_over_vermont at August 11, 2022 10:15 AM (PJAVg)

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No problem - I'm in town for a couple more months.

Posted by: 496 at August 11, 2022 10:31 AM (VJsqe)

255 For those recently retired--it isn't old age that will kill you, that's reserved for the "honey-do" list.

You'll have to get some rest by going back to work.

Posted by: irongrampa at August 11, 2022 10:31 AM (KATBx)

256 Never heard of Marc until and never seen one of his paintings as far as I can recall.

Looked him up on WikiPedia. Beautiful work. Not surprised at their value.

Would consider hanging a quality reprint.

Posted by: Biden's Dog at August 11, 2022 10:31 AM (odVni)

257 Dunno know what the world is coming to. Looked at FB this morning. Stepson posted an Ayn Rand quote! Maybe he is finally waking up.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 11, 2022 10:32 AM (9WSy4)

258 If he wasn't nailed to his perch, he'd be pushin up the daisies!

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 11, 2022 10:32 AM (E/Ha5)

259 257 Dunno know what the world is coming to. Looked at FB this morning. Stepson posted an Ayn Rand quote! Maybe he is finally waking up.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 11, 2022 10:32 AM (9WSy4)

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I once dated a girl who said she was both a socialist and an objectivist.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 11, 2022 10:32 AM (LvTSG)

260 Garland and Wray must immediately answer questions.


Garland and Wray: LOLGF


This is your next two years.

Posted by: Gope Leadership at August 11, 2022 10:32 AM (9FBGz)

261 Frisky?

No Kibbles&Bits?
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2022 10:29 AM (2i0wv)

Get on the Gravy Train!

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 11, 2022 10:32 AM (W/9Bb)

262 180 The painting, it has no boobs!
Posted by: Ciampino - I see streaky paint. Happens when painting in the shower. at August 11, 2022 10:09 AM (qfLjt)


True story to follow. About a month ago wifey, who is a lactation consultant, sent me an email here at the office asking if I could print the attachment on my color printer. I was busy doing my own work so I distractedly clicked it and sent it to the printer. Went to get coffee and there were boobs, more boobs, and yet more boobs coming out of my printer - they wouldn't stop! I actually locked my office door in case someone walked in while it was printing and was very thankful I no longer had any employees here with me. Talk about NSFW. Got home and told her to warn me next time and her response was what did you think it would be?

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at August 11, 2022 10:32 AM (PJAVg)

263 I once considered moving to Norway, but nowadays I don't think I can a-fjord it.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2022 10:32 AM (kXYt5)

264 252 It seems incredible but ancient (and more modern) China has had periods of internal warfare with as many or more deaths.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead!

One thing that commie rat bastard documentarian Ken Burns did in his The Civil War series that I liked was to frequently mention the equal or greater carnage occurring simultaneously in a Chnese rebellion.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Survived the Mar-A-Lago Raid at August 11, 2022 10:30 AM (FVME7)

The Taiping rebellion was roughly concurrent with the US Civil War. About as many people died in it as in WW1.

Leader of the rebellion claimed to be the brother of Jesus, pretty crazy set of events overall.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 11, 2022 10:33 AM (b2nrj)

265 137 Medical marijuana users should be prohibited from owning guns because the substance impairs the "judgment, cognition, and physical coordination" of those under its influence, lawyers for the Justice Department argued.

My guess: Veterans, primarily because the proposed rules for mental health conditions would increase the minimum disability rating from 0% to 10%.

But if they do receive the 10% disability rating down-the-line, that could be counted towards "priority" placement in Federal employment To counter that, agencies such as Labor and Treasury use "direct hire" authority - as they have now - to get around hiring "10-point Veterans" in certain positions.

Posted by: Lola at August 11, 2022 10:33 AM (NIYa7)

266 Dunno know what the world is coming to. Looked at FB this morning. Stepson posted an Ayn Rand quote! Maybe he is finally waking up.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 11, 2022 10:32 AM (9WSy4)

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Absolutely love, and frequently refer to when discussing politics with others, that meme with the Venn Diagram of numerous dystopian novels & films, all intersecting around a circle in the middle labeled "You are here."

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 11, 2022 10:34 AM (PnkSq)

267 Just kidding. We don't give a fuck what Wray and Garland have to say about anything.

Posted by: The GOP - Donate Today! at August 11, 2022 10:34 AM (xjshH)

268 Wakes up
Looks around
Dang. That's a busy painting.
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 11, 2022 10:34 AM (anj39)

269 If this was one of those pieces where if you stare at it long enough, it turns 3-D,
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I never got those to work for me, so of course, I hated them.

I always felt like I was the butt of a practical joke as everyone else claimed they were seeing the hidden image.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 11, 2022 10:34 AM (Zf0+a)

270 Your morning musical interlude. Pink Floyd - Comfortably Numb from the 1988 Delicate Sound of Thunder in 4K. Gilmore does Gilmore exceptionally well on this.

https://tinyurl.com/2xyeyhwp

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 11, 2022 10:35 AM (FF+On)

271 >>Maybe related: Jim Hoft (I know) says there was a binder of documents related to Crossfire Hurricane that cast the FBI in a very bad light. Trump declassified, but DOJ tried everything to prevent its release. It was a matter of discussion between Meadows and DOJ right up until the last day of the Trump administration.

Hoft isn't wrong. Solomon was reporting this at the time and he had seen part of the binder.

Not a coincidence that Trump appointed him as a representative to the NARA. If those documents get out and they do show that the FBI was spying on Trump not just during the election but after he was president how does the FBI survive?

That's why I think they raided Trump. They had no choice.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 11, 2022 10:35 AM (ZLI7S)

272 well, after this shitstorm

I wont be bothered about the 2024 nomination

Posted by: Ron aka Sasso at August 11, 2022 10:35 AM (us2H3)

273 I always felt like I was the butt of a practical joke as everyone else claimed they were seeing the hidden image.
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 11, 2022 10:34 AM (Zf0+a)

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No joke. They're real and they're spectacular.

Posted by: 496 at August 11, 2022 10:35 AM (VJsqe)

274 224 "Get Carter" available in 4k today.

A great, perhaps the greatest Limey action flick.

Unfortunately...only available in Limeyland.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 11, 2022 10:23 AM (5NkmN)
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That is a great movie. I like Michael Caine. Another great movie he was in was The Fourth Protocol. Great plot. I like Joanna Cassidy - nice looking.

Posted by: Ciampino - I like plausible plots at August 11, 2022 10:36 AM (qfLjt)

275 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2022 10:36 AM (Zz0t1)

276 I always felt like I was the butt of a practical joke as everyone else claimed they were seeing the hidden image.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 11, 2022 10:34 AM (Zf0+a)

Ah 1998.

Yoy have to be able to cross your eyes and keep them there. You didn't miss much.

Posted by: ... at August 11, 2022 10:36 AM (xjshH)

277 Don't take the brown acid.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2022 10:36 AM (Zz0t1)

278 224 "Get Carter" available in 4k today.

A great, perhaps the greatest Limey action flick.

Unfortunately...only available in Limeyland.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 11, 2022 10:23 AM (5NkmN)

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The 4K will be playable in American 4K players with no problem. I've considered picking it up. I've also gotten BFI's 4K of The Proposition, and I've considered ordering their upcoming 4K release of Watership Down.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 11, 2022 10:36 AM (LvTSG)

279
The BEF tried to look after the welfare of the troops. Officers were taught to take care of their men first. Units were regularly rotated out of the line. Consequently, the BEF suffered no mutinies and fought hard even during Operation Michael

French officers were brave, but didn't care about their men. Reliefs were rare, pay was low and food was terrible. This caused revolts in 1917.

The Germans left units in line until they were pulverized, then the survivors were pulled out and replaced.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 11, 2022 10:30 AM (1Nxff)

I've read and watched a lot about WWI. But I still think the best book that encompasses the savagery of that war is All Quiet On the Western Front.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 11, 2022 10:36 AM (Qhnrt)

280 Looks like the colors you see after eating Peg Bundy's mystery meat from the fridge.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2022 10:37 AM (Zz0t1)

281 The real Y2K disaster is that people didn't standardize how they wrote the date. 01-02-03 might be year-month-day, or five other things.

Today is 11-AUG-2022. That is idiot-proof. Half of everyone don't seem to mind a little more confusion in the world. I curse them harder than Feanor.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 11, 2022 10:37 AM (44ww/)

282 This painting makes me want to cry.
Posted by: Adam Kinzinger

Didja see Mighty Adam name and shame his former friend and copilot over his loving the constitution more than Adam?

https://bit.ly/3JLL7wG

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Survived the Mar-A-Lago Raid at August 11, 2022 10:37 AM (FVME7)

283 I once considered moving to Norway, but nowadays I don't think I can a-fjord it.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2022 10:32 AM (kXYt5)

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Well, that's just like your o-pining, man!

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 11, 2022 10:37 AM (PnkSq)

284 Waiter, there's a polar bear in my salad.

That's what I see. I may not understand it, but it's an attractive piece.

Posted by: t-bird at August 11, 2022 10:37 AM (ugV9/)

285 Trump declassified, but DOJ tried everything to prevent its release.

At the risk of equine corpse abuse, I still don't get this. Why is the President dependent on anyone else for releasing a document that he has declassified? Why can't he just go to the press and hand out copies?

Posted by: Oddbob at August 11, 2022 10:37 AM (nfrXX)

286 'So I cut up this watermelon, then pained a picture.

True story.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 11, 2022 10:37 AM (dNqv+)

287 Your morning musical interlude. Pink Floyd - Comfortably Numb from the 1988 Delicate Sound of Thunder in 4K. Gilmore does Gilmore exceptionally well on this.

https://tinyurl.com/2xyeyhwp
Posted by: Lost In Space at August 11, 2022 10:35 AM (FF+On)



I really don't like Pink Floyd....never have.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2022 10:38 AM (Zz0t1)

288 'And my dog thought I made a mess that he had to eat up.'

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 11, 2022 10:38 AM (dNqv+)

289 the big fight in 2025 will be

just how far can Trump go in gutting the DOJ/FBI/IRS ?

he had better get a VP that is down with it

cuz it will take more than 4 years

the court battles will be lit

Posted by: REDACTED at August 11, 2022 10:38 AM (us2H3)

290 220 I knew I shouldn't have hired Larry, Moe, and Curly to paint the house.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

There was a charming and funny children's book by Peter Spier about three children whose parents leave for the day and whose babysitter bails, who decide to paint the house because Mom's been nagging Dad about it.

'There was plenty of paint in the garage..."

I think it's OOP, but worth tracking down. We read our copy to smithereens.

Posted by: sal at August 11, 2022 10:39 AM (y40tE)

291 For those recently retired--it isn't old age that will kill you, that's reserved for the "honey-do" list.

*********

THE FIRST DAY OF THE REST OF YOUR LIFE

Congrats! Thirty years! Bump a fist!
Retirement!! You'll soon get the gist
But let me share a warning
First thing Monday morning
She'll hand you your Honey-Do list!

Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2022 10:39 AM (kXYt5)

292 Michael Caine was in a Bond-light movie called Blue Ice, but I haven't seen it. I don't know that he is the right actor, but I guess you could do worse.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 11, 2022 10:39 AM (44ww/)

293 This is what it looks like after the cat throws up, the dog eats it and throws it back up 20 minutes later.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2022 10:39 AM (Zz0t1)

294 Long ago, the ONT had a list of histories greatest killings, normalized to world population at the time. Various Chinese rebellions were four of the top five. Hitler didn't even make the list.

China has been a bloody place for a very long time.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 11, 2022 10:39 AM (sAa2b)

295 Hmmmmm. I know art is subjective, but the lack of bewbs is anti-art!!

Posted by: Jak Sucio at August 11, 2022 10:40 AM (as1pO)

296 I really don't like Pink Floyd....never have.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2022 10:38 AM (Zz0t1)

man, you really need to cut Doris Day loose

Posted by: REDACTED at August 11, 2022 10:40 AM (us2H3)

297 After 1914, WWI was a war of attrition and 1916 was a particularly horrible year for it. First, you get the German offensive at Verdun and then you get the pointless slaughterhouse of the Somme when the Brits tried to release German pressure on Verdun by forcing the German reinforcements to be shunted off to the Somme.

WWI Generals should have remembered the US Civil War in the East from 1864-65 where Grant used superior numbers in Virginia to grind Lee's Army down and causing horrendous casualties for both sides. Cold Harbor was a prequel to the slaughter in the trenches. Similarly, the 1905 Russo-Japanese war featured trench warfare in China with high casualties also.

Artillery, machine guns annihilated large formations of slow moving infantry trying for a breakthrough because they lacked the speed to exploit any gaps (without the new tanks coming out). So, counterattacks inevitably killed a lot of the surviving attackers and prevented any breakouts.

Verdun, in particular, was a large complex of forts where the French defenders took a pounding via artillery but gave back even more death to Germans trying to take those interlocking forts.

Posted by: whig at August 11, 2022 10:40 AM (CXr4y)

298 I really don't like Pink Floyd....never have.
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Super Groups Who Suck, IMO:
The Who
Just don't like them.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 11, 2022 10:40 AM (lGrs1)

299 At the risk of equine corpse abuse, I still don't get this. Why is the President dependent on anyone else for releasing a document that he has declassified? Why can't he just go to the press and hand out copies?
Posted by: Oddbob at August 11, 2022 10:37 AM (nfrXX)

There are some procedures to delay release of declassified stuff after the normal expiration date (classified materials have different lifespans depending on what grade they are, even non-classified stuff, FOUO had some delay iirc).

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 11, 2022 10:40 AM (b2nrj)

300 "John Solomon and Kash Patel have been named NARA representatives. They will work to make available to the American people previously declassified documents that reveal a clear conspiracy to unlawfully spy on candidate and then President Donald J. Trump"


Kash Patel is the Durham of delivering on this. He's been saying the same crap for years now, and nothing happens.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 11, 2022 10:40 AM (qH6FZ)

301 287
I really don't like Pink Floyd....never have.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2022 10:38 AM (Zz0t1)

They are a really un unlikeable bunch - like a lot on the Classic Rockers.

Posted by: kraken at August 11, 2022 10:41 AM (Vr12I)

302 >>At the risk of equine corpse abuse, I still don't get this. Why is the President dependent on anyone else for releasing a document that he has declassified? Why can't he just go to the press and hand out copies?

After impeaching him twice and threatening to bring him up on charges constantly over made up crap how do you think the establishment in DC would react to Trump releasing documents over the objection of our beloved Intel Community?

The law and facts don't matter to these people. We've seen that over and over. Trump is a mortal threat to the DC establishment and their corruption and they will do anything they can to stop him.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 11, 2022 10:41 AM (ZLI7S)

303 Wow!
Muldoon @20 totally nails it!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 11, 2022 10:41 AM (anj39)

304 I once considered moving to Norway, but nowadays I don't think I can a-fjord it.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2022 10:32 AM (kXYt5)

I sure hope you are not pining for it.

Posted by: flounder at August 11, 2022 10:42 AM (U3uv2)

305 Which theater was bloodier in WWII, Europe or the Pacific?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 11, 2022 10:42 AM (MyP/f)

306 ====================
Super Groups Who Suck, IMO:
The Who
Just don't like them.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 11, 2022 10:40 AM (lGrs1)



I think they had some quality stuff. But also know they have put things to tape that shouldn't have been made.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2022 10:42 AM (Zz0t1)

307 At the risk of equine corpse abuse, I still don't get this. Why is the President dependent on anyone else for releasing a document that he has declassified? Why can't he just go to the press and hand out copies?

Posted by: Oddbob
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Bunch of laws were passed to hide government misdeeds of prior administrations under onerous procedures and vague bureaucratic objections. Personally, I think all of those laws are most probably unconstitutional but no president has really tested them.

Posted by: whig at August 11, 2022 10:42 AM (CXr4y)

308 NBC DFW@NBCDFW
FBI Director Denounces Trump Supporters for Using Violent Rhetoric Following Mar-a-Lago Search

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You'll get kicked in the balls and like it!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Survived the Mar-A-Lago Raid at August 11, 2022 10:42 AM (FVME7)

309 305 Which theater was bloodier in WWII, Europe or the Pacific?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 11, 2022 10:42 AM (MyP/f)

The Ford Theater?

Posted by: kraken at August 11, 2022 10:42 AM (Vr12I)

310 Posted by: JackStraw at August 11, 2022 10:35 AM (ZLI7S)

Sometimes - not always - things are exactly as they appear.

If the Trump raid didn't fit neatly into their pattern of behavior since he announced, I would look deeper.

No need to look deeper here even though it's somewhat reassuring to try. Have you tried looking at it without the good news silver lining? I swear I'm not being funny. I mean just as an unannounced thought experiment? Like, I will look at things from angles that I don't like just to see if I'm missing something.

There IS good news but it's not secret good news. The good news is Trump is going to keep standing and keep fighting. His courage always rises with attempts to intimidate him. They definitely want him gone for a reason.

Posted by: ... at August 11, 2022 10:43 AM (xjshH)

311 WWI Generals should have remembered the US Civil War in the East from 1864-65 where Grant used superior numbers in Virginia to grind Lee's Army down and causing horrendous casualties for both sides. Cold Harbor was a prequel to the slaughter in the trenches. Similarly, the 1905 Russo-Japanese war featured trench warfare in China with high casualties also.

Posted by: whig at August 11, 2022 10:40 AM (CXr4y)

The Civil War's use of trench warfare, previously fairly unknown in the west (Asia has used trenches and tunnels forever), was very much a foreshadowing of WW1's changes to military tactics.

The US is larger and more open than Europe though, which meant that outflanking remained an option, unlike in most of Europe where it becomes two sets of trenches facing each other for miles on end.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 11, 2022 10:43 AM (b2nrj)

312 219 Where does that expression “pining for the fjords” come from?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 11, 2022 10:22 AM (MyP/f)
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Monty Python "The Parrot Sketch" - it's on youtube.

Posted by: Ciampino - it's an English lesson on death euphemisms at August 11, 2022 10:43 AM (qfLjt)

313 We have accepted a police state.

The vice only tightens from here.

Posted by: Today is bad but tomorrow will be worse at August 11, 2022 10:43 AM (9FBGz)

314 IIRC there was a lot of government malfeasance uncovered during Trump's term. The lid was blown off quite a number of domestic spying, criminal wrong doing, etc. by the DoJ and the 3 letter intelligence agencies. Trump made generalized accusations now and then, and "promised" to release the details. Had he been able to move forward with that effort I'd imagine the embarrassment to the Obama and *biden cabals would have been significant.

Doubtful there'd be any conquences. In any event, those documents will never see the light of day.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 11, 2022 10:44 AM (BFigT)

315 308 NBC DFW@NBCDFW
FBI Director Denounces Trump Supporters for Using Violent Rhetoric Following Mar-a-Lago Search
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You'll get kicked in the balls and like it!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Survived the Mar-A-Lago Raid at August 11, 2022 10:42 AM (FVME7)

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"The government is out to get us."

"They think we're out to get them."

"Well, get them."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 11, 2022 10:44 AM (LvTSG)

316
I read "Mud, Blood and Poppycock" by Gordon Corrigan about the myths of the BEF in WWI. Basically he says that, yes, things were bad, but the generals did the best they could considering the mass enlistment, the technology of the time and the constraints of the French alliance. They did the best for the men as they could as well. Units rarely spent more than a fee days in the firing line, hot food was served as often as possible and officers tried to keep the trenches as habitable.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 11, 2022 10:44 AM (1Nxff)

317 Trump declassified, but DOJ tried everything to prevent its release.

Could Trump have declassified any of the 30 million documents Obama squirreled away in his "Water Garden"? (Current count of pages handed over to the National Archives: zero)

Posted by: t-bird at August 11, 2022 10:44 AM (dzeUe)

318 my hated memories of going on my monthly visit to see my dad

getting shit kicked out of me by my dad

and my sisters listening to the Beatles

Posted by: REDACTED at August 11, 2022 10:44 AM (us2H3)

319 He should have a word with a VP who said the riots weren't gonna stop and shouldn't stop and then cackled while buildings burned.

Posted by: ... at August 11, 2022 10:44 AM (xjshH)

320 This parrot is Dead - Expired - Deceased!!!

Posted by: kraken at August 11, 2022 10:44 AM (Vr12I)

321 NBC DFW@NBCDFW
FBI Director Denounces Trump Supporters for Using Violent Rhetoric Following Mar-a-Lago Search



FBI Director can suck a donkey to completion.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2022 10:44 AM (Zz0t1)

322 294 Long ago, the ONT had a list of histories greatest killings, normalized to world population at the time. Various Chinese rebellions were four of the top five. Hitler didn't even make the list.

China has been a bloody place for a very long time.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 11, 2022 10:39 AM (sAa2b

Life is cheap in all the far-eastern countries.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 11, 2022 10:44 AM (Qhnrt)

323 Claire McCaskill@clairecmc
I’ve personally prosecuted 100’s of cases and supervised prosecution of thousands. One iron clad rule: when the accused criminal had no defense he goes after the police.

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Take Burn, Loot, and Murder for example.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Survived the Mar-A-Lago Raid at August 11, 2022 10:45 AM (FVME7)

324 FBI Director Denounces Trump Supporters for Using Violent Rhetoric Following Mar-a-Lago Search
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Keep fuckin' that chicken, Chris.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 11, 2022 10:45 AM (sWM8x)

325 221 Ukulele

War crime or music?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2022 10:22 AM (2i0wv)
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Well, how do you feel about a viola?

Posted by: Ciampino - a viola is better than a violin because it burns longer at August 11, 2022 10:45 AM (qfLjt)

326 China has been a bloody place for a very long time.[i/]

19th century China. Guy claims he's the younger brother of Jesus. Starts a rebellion against the ruling party. 30 million dead in like 15 years.

Posted by: brak at August 11, 2022 10:45 AM (j5Tg0)

Posted by: brak at August 11, 2022 10:45 AM (j5Tg0)

328 323 Claire McCaskill@clairecmc
I’ve personally prosecuted 100’s of cases and supervised prosecution of thousands. One iron clad rule: when the accused criminal had no defense he goes after the police.

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Take Burn, Loot, and Murder for example.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Survived the Mar-A-Lago Raid at August 11, 2022 10:45 AM (FVME7)

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"Federal prosecutors are the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human beings I've ever known in my life."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 11, 2022 10:46 AM (LvTSG)

329 296 I really don't like Pink Floyd....never have.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2022 10:38 AM (Zz0t1)

man, you really need to cut Doris Day loose
Posted by: REDACTED at August 11, 2022 10:40 AM (us2H3)

Why would he want to do that?

https://tinyurl.com/5xrfm8y8

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 11, 2022 10:46 AM (dNqv+)

330
The 4K will be playable in American 4K players with no problem. I've considered picking it up. I've also gotten BFI's 4K of The Proposition, and I've considered ordering their upcoming 4K release of Watership Down.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 11, 2022 10:36 AM (LvTSG)


True. The USD to pounds conversion usually blows chunks though.

Zavvi is often okay. Maybe I'll check them out.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 11, 2022 10:46 AM (5NkmN)

331 @285
>>At the risk of equine corpse abuse, I still don't get this. Why is the President dependent on anyone else for releasing a document that he has declassified? Why can't he just go to the press and hand out copies?

This can best be illustrated by the First Impeachment Bullshit.

A shitbird colonel got it in his head that the President doesn't get to set foreign policy and that any foreign policy decision can only be legitimate if it goes through and gets the blessing of the "Inter-Agency."

Its the same thing with this Archive nonsense, apparently the National Archivist, who is mentioned nowhere in the Constitution has Pnumbra and emantion powers that trump the Presidents Unitary Executive Authority of declassification.

Or Alternatively...

Everything is an Op.
Everything is Bullshit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 11, 2022 10:46 AM (+JKjx)

332 hot food was served as often as possible and officers tried to keep the trenches as habitable.

"Leftenant, what this trench really needs is... a shrubbery!"

Posted by: t-bird at August 11, 2022 10:46 AM (dzeUe)

333 Michael Caine was in a Bond-light movie called Blue Ice, but I haven't seen it. I don't know that he is the right actor, but I guess you could do worse.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 11, 2022 10:39 AM (44ww/)

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I don't know for sure which major actor has the most film credits, but always thought if I had to guess, I'd guess Michael Caine.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 11, 2022 10:46 AM (PnkSq)

334 WWI Generals should have remembered the US Civil War in the East from 1864-65 where Grant used superior numbers in Virginia to grind Lee's Army down and causing horrendous casualties for both sides. Cold Harbor was a prequel to the slaughter in the trenches. Similarly, the 1905 Russo-Japanese war featured trench warfare in China with high casualties also.

Artillery, machine guns annihilated large formations of slow moving infantry trying for a breakthrough because they lacked the speed to exploit any gaps (without the new tanks coming out). So, counterattacks inevitably killed a lot of the surviving attackers and prevented any breakouts.

Verdun, in particular, was a large complex of forts where the French defenders took a pounding via artillery but gave back even more death to Germans trying to take those interlocking forts.
Posted by: whig at August 11, 2022
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All sides could have learned lessons from the Russo-Japanese War. Heavily fortified positions, trench warfare, effective use of machine guns, the belief that morale is superior to firepower (looking at you Japan!), poor logistics. Essentially mini-WW1.

Posted by: Penfold at August 11, 2022 10:46 AM (Fbt5B)

335 I've read and watched a lot about WWI. But I still think the best book that encompasses the savagery of that war is All Quiet On the Western Front.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons
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Blackadder IV (Goes Forth) highlights a lot of the stupidity at high ranks of the British. The Somme pretty much did in the reputation of British high command as unimaginative cretins.

A Rifleman Goes to War is an excellent read of an American who joined the Canadians so as to go to WWI as a combatant. He became a sniper and eventually ended up teaching his fellow Americans how to do it.

Posted by: whig at August 11, 2022 10:46 AM (CXr4y)

336 321 NBC DFW@NBCDFW
FBI Director Denounces Trump Supporters for Using Violent Rhetoric Following Mar-a-Lago Search

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So sue us, asshole.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at August 11, 2022 10:46 AM (Qhnrt)

337 Absolutely love, and frequently refer to when discussing politics with others, that meme with the Venn Diagram of numerous dystopian novels & films, all intersecting around a circle in the middle labeled "You are here."

Fahrenheit 451 has been popping up recently in my mind due to news stories from robotic enforcement "dogs," to book canceling, to ignored non-stop wars, to censorship, to media gaslighting, to nyc nuke warnings,

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at August 11, 2022 10:46 AM (HMTci)

338 >>No need to look deeper here even though it's somewhat reassuring to try. Have you tried looking at it without the good news silver lining? I swear I'm not being funny. I mean just as an unannounced thought experiment? Like, I will look at things from angles that I don't like just to see if I'm missing something.

I don't know what you mean by silver lining. Trump took boxes of classified material from the White House when he left. He's been negotiating with the FBI ever since over their return and while he was returned some he has not returned all of them.

Yes, sometime things are exactly what they seem. The FBI got a warrant that they won't disclose to raid the home of the former president to retrieve classified documents. Why don't you try explaining how this is some elaborate ruse that was always going to blow up in the FBI's face as anything other than exactly what it looks like.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 11, 2022 10:46 AM (ZLI7S)

339 NBC DFW@NBCDFW
FBI Director Denounces Trump Supporters for Using Violent Rhetoric Following Mar-a-Lago Search


FBI Director can suck a donkey to completion.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2022 10:44 AM (Zz0t1)

He can headline here!

Posted by: Tijuana at August 11, 2022 10:46 AM (4I/2K)

340 I like it and would hang.

Yes, we now a fascist police state with 80,000 armed and dangerous to Americans IRS agents soon coming to enforce our democracy at gun point.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 11, 2022 10:46 AM (u4CEu)

341 Read The Beauty and the Sorrow about WWI. It will give you a better feel for the war than reading about the battles.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 11, 2022 10:47 AM (9WSy4)

342 well, if there's one thing the government knows how to do

it's take a bad situation and make it worse

and, fer shore , they will

currently ccoking up a nice new turd

Posted by: REDACTED at August 11, 2022 10:47 AM (us2H3)

343 FBI Director Denounces Trump Supporters for Using Violent Rhetoric Following Mar-a-Lago Search


Not what they did but the reaction to their evil.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at August 11, 2022 10:47 AM (HMTci)

344 All sides could have learned lessons from the Russo-Japanese War. Heavily fortified positions, trench warfare, effective use of machine guns, the belief that morale is superior to firepower (looking at you Japan!), poor logistics. Essentially mini-WW1.

Posted by: Penfold
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Heck, all of the major powers had military observers there watching the action. Goes to senior generals selection procedures in peacetime--those who go along, get along.

Posted by: whig at August 11, 2022 10:48 AM (CXr4y)

345 330 True. The USD to pounds conversion usually blows chunks though.

Zavvi is often okay. Maybe I'll check them out.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 11, 2022 10:46 AM (5NkmN)

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Amazon US usually stocks them somehow. The Proposition was ordered through the US Amazon storefront, with free shipping, and sent from England. Shipping would have been $13.

That's how I do it, anyway. I've used Zavvi before, and they're good too. DiabolikDVD carries foreign releases as well.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 11, 2022 10:48 AM (LvTSG)

346
I think they had some quality stuff. But also know they have put things to tape that shouldn't have been made.....
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 11, 2022 10:42 AM (Zz0t1)

Rolling Stones

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 11, 2022 10:48 AM (W/9Bb)

347 Like, I will look at things from angles that I don't like just to see if I'm missing something.

Posted by: ... at August 11, 2022 10:43 AM (xjshH)

IMO, it is a rare skill.

Posted by: flounder at August 11, 2022 10:48 AM (U3uv2)

348 After impeaching him twice and threatening to bring him up on charges constantly over made up crap how do you think the establishment in DC would react to Trump releasing documents over the objection of our beloved Intel Community?

No doubt but I thought that one of DJT's greatest assets was that he didn't supposedly care about things like that.

Posted by: Oddbob at August 11, 2022 10:49 AM (nfrXX)

349 " Violent Rhetoric" - Red Meat for the Pearl Clutchers. Bunch of wussies, never had a bloody nose in their lives.

Posted by: kraken at August 11, 2022 10:49 AM (Vr12I)

350
Well, how do you feel about a viola?
Posted by: Ciampino - a viola is better than a violin because it burns longer

_________

Q: Are violas larger than violins?
A: No, violists heads are just smaller.

A man walks into a bank with a violin case. Everyone screams and runs because they think he has a machine gun.

A man walks into a bank with a viola case. Everyone screams and runs because they think he's going to play the viola.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 11, 2022 10:49 AM (1Nxff)

351 Heavily fortified positions, trench warfare, effective use of machine guns, the belief that morale is superior to firepower (looking at you Japan!), poor logistics. Essentially mini-WW1.
Posted by: Penfold at August 11, 2022 10:46 AM (Fbt5B)

Morale had been superior to firepower for thousands of years. The Napoleonic wars were still all about breaking the enemy lines, and then Europe had a period of prolonged peace.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 11, 2022 10:49 AM (b2nrj)

352 That maidenform bra in the center of the piece is going to frame the ginga’s cheerful symmetry?
Posted by: Zombie William Blake at August 11, 2022 10:26 AM


Given there are always more matrons than maidens, why aren't there matronform bras?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 11, 2022 10:49 AM (w8zeF)

353 Could Trump have declassified any of the 30 million documents Obama squirreled away in his "Water Garden"? (Current count of pages handed over to the National Archives: zero)

Posted by: t-bird
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Yes. Current president has the right to declassify anything via law and indirectly through the Constitution as commander in chief.

Posted by: whig at August 11, 2022 10:50 AM (CXr4y)

354 234 "He has shuffled off this mortal coil."

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 11, 2022 10:26 AM (2i0wv)
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Deathly, lethal actually. It has 22,000 volts running through it.

Posted by: Wichita lineman at August 11, 2022 10:50 AM (qfLjt)

355 The GSA packed boxes of stuff and sent it TO Trump. Was it classified? Not if Trump said it wasn't classified while still president. They've come and seen it all, took what they wanted. So why "raid?"

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at August 11, 2022 10:50 AM (HMTci)

356 > FBI Director Denounces Trump Supporters for Using Violent Rhetoric Following Mar-a-Lago Search
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He better hope he retains his government job and security then.

"Violent rhetoric"

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 11, 2022 10:51 AM (BFigT)

357 In response to the overwhelm demands. The Who - Won't Get Fooled Again - Shepperton Studios 1978.

https://tinyurl.com/bdycx2u4

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 11, 2022 10:51 AM (FF+On)

358 Went to get coffee and there were boobs, more boobs, and yet more boobs coming out of my printer - they wouldn't stop!
Posted by: moon_over_vermont

HR to MoV - "Well, what are we going to do about this?"

Mr. MoV - I'd like to make a clean breast of it!

Posted by: Tonypete at August 11, 2022 10:51 AM (LsEU/)

359 our speech is violence. Their violence is speech.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 11, 2022 10:51 AM (9WSy4)

360 FBI Director Denounces Trump Supporters for Using Violent Rhetoric Following Mar-a-Lago Search



Our speech is violence, their violence is speech legal.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 11, 2022 10:53 AM (lTGtQ)

361 >>No doubt but I thought that one of DJT's greatest assets was that he didn't supposedly care about things like that.

He cares deeply. He was extremely angry about being impeached and was very public about it.

He's also running for reelection right now despite not yet announcing. I think he's determined to get this information out without being indicted and returning to the White House and taking his revenge by gutting some of these agencies.

But we shall see.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 11, 2022 10:53 AM (ZLI7S)

362 I dream of Doris Day in the night.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Survived the Mar-A-Lago Raid at August 11, 2022 10:53 AM (FVME7)

363 One of the primary changes of the last 40 years is how the government views the citizens of the country it purports to serve. It is no longer 'Our jobs are to help and protect these people' it is now 'Some of these people are dangerous and we are working against them.'

This is a fundamental shift. And the primary motivator for tyranny.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 11, 2022 10:53 AM (dNqv+)

364 Why don't you try explaining how this is some elaborate ruse that was always going to blow up in the FBI's face as anything other than exactly what it looks like.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 11, 2022 10:46 AM (ZLI7S)

Theres no ruse. My opinion is they were told to "find" an excuse to raid Trump. As they were told to "find" an excuse to spy on him years ago. The raid is the end not the means. They wanted a raid.

They wanted everyone to know he was raided and there is new suspicion swirling around him. It is the beginning of a New Operation on Trump where there will be new accusations.

Every one of their released narratives since Monday supports this theory.

Posted by: ... at August 11, 2022 10:54 AM (xjshH)

365 He's also running for reelection right now despite not yet announcing. I think he's determined to get this information out without being indicted and returning to the White House and taking his revenge by gutting some of these agencies.

But we shall see.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 11, 2022 10:53 AM (ZLI7S)


That's the best reason to elect him.

He can appoint a Vengeance Czar. As a czar, atc will not need Senate approval.

Posted by: blaster at August 11, 2022 10:54 AM (6TxNR)

366 Morale had been superior to firepower for thousands of years. The Napoleonic wars were still all about breaking the enemy lines, and then Europe had a period of prolonged peace.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy
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Sieges were the exception to the rule but by Cromwell's time, castles were no longer safe havens due to cannons. So, for a couple of centuries, warfare became battles of movement again and choosing the proper battlefield. As you said, that probably reached its peak during the Napoleonic War and the early US Civil War. Defenses though adapted to the point that the charges of the Old Guard or Pickett's charge became idiotic exercises in killing a large number of troops pointlessly. R. Lee knew better than to emulate Northern tactics but I always thought he fought half hearted on his two Northern offensives.

Posted by: whig at August 11, 2022 10:54 AM (CXr4y)

367 Looks more like a seafood salad with mushroom and greens, fish, crab legs...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 11, 2022 10:55 AM (ynpvh)

368 dream of Doris Day in the night.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Survived the Mar-A-Lago Raid at August 11, 2022 10:53 AM (FVME7

And Gladys Knight during the day.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 11, 2022 10:55 AM (W/9Bb)

369 Posted by: flounder at August 11, 2022 10:48 AM (U3uv2)

In which case it sounds like I'm bragging. But it gives me clarity. I am nothing without mental clarity. I might as well be dead.

Posted by: ... at August 11, 2022 10:55 AM (xjshH)

370 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals agrees with ATF that bump stocks are machine guns. It is being appealed again to SCROTUS.

I wonder who we have to thank for this regulation?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 11, 2022 10:55 AM (m7R0k)

371 Except now I see faces...hmmm.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 11, 2022 10:55 AM (ynpvh)

372 I dream of Doris Day in the night.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Survived the Mar-A-Lago Raid

"I knew Doris Day before she became a virgin."

Oscar Levant

Posted by: JT at August 11, 2022 10:56 AM (T4tVD)

373 362 I dream of Doris Day in the night.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Survived the Mar-A-Lago Raid at August 11, 2022 10:53 AM (FVME7)

You could do far worse.

https://tinyurl.com/bdfyvv7p

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 11, 2022 10:56 AM (dNqv+)

374 Blackadder IV (Goes Forth) highlights a lot of the stupidity at high ranks of the British. The Somme pretty much did in the reputation of British high command as unimaginative cretins.

Posted by: whig at August 11, 2022 10:46 AM (CXr4y)

The west believes in logistics (training, gear, numbers). China believes in military genius(brilliant commanding officer with the soldiers being near irrelevant by comparison).

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 11, 2022 10:56 AM (b2nrj)

375 Highest weekly jobless numbers in 2022 today. Buy guys, totally not a recession.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 11, 2022 10:56 AM (3vQN0)

376 I would guess that they would rather have ANY Republican run in 24 besides Trump. Just how far they are willing to go to stop him is the question.

Posted by: kraken at August 11, 2022 10:57 AM (Vr12I)

377 370 5th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals agrees with ATF that bump stocks are machine guns. It is being appealed again to SCROTUS.

I wonder who we have to thank for this regulation?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 11, 2022 10:55 AM (m7R0k)

Fingers will be banned next.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 11, 2022 10:57 AM (ynpvh)

378 Robert Barnes pointed out one factor re Monday's actions, that the DOJ has long had a policy of not acting on anything involving political figures inside the 90 days prior to an election. Monday was the 91st day, and the last actionable day, prior to the November midterms.

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 11, 2022 10:57 AM (4I/2K)

379 He can appoint a Vengeance Czar. As a czar, atc will not need Senate approval.

With 87,000 IRS commandos under him. Lots of EO 13848 asset seizure to do.

Posted by: t-bird at August 11, 2022 10:58 AM (ugV9/)

380 375 Highest weekly jobless numbers in 2022 today. Buy guys, totally not a recession.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 11, 2022 10:56 AM (3vQN0)

There is a difference between the inflation rate and the rate inflation is rising.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 11, 2022 10:58 AM (ynpvh)

381 >>Theres no ruse. My opinion is they were told to "find" an excuse to raid Trump. As they were told to "find" an excuse to spy on him years ago. The raid is the end not the means. They wanted a raid.

And how has that worked out? Trump's support and his fundraising have both surged while the FBI/DOJ are being hammered from all sides.

They could have said to themselves despite the fact that we let Obama take millions of classified document and Hillary keep and then destroy thousand of classified and Top Secret documents and did nothing let alone a raid we are going to raid Trump over some documents he has kept under lock and key and allowed us access to view and the public will cheer.

They could be that incredibly stupid. Anything is possible. But that seems a much less likely reason to me.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 11, 2022 10:58 AM (ZLI7S)

382 So. 80,000 new irs agents. Probably got to do 5 cases a week to make their quota. And of course they will likely be graded on amount of collections. That is 400,000 cases a week. Figure 50 working weeks a year.
I know this is maths.
How long before they burn through the entire population of America?

Posted by: Diogenes at August 11, 2022 10:58 AM (anj39)

383 376 I would guess that they would rather have ANY Republican run in 24 besides Trump. Just how far they are willing to go to stop him is the question.

Posted by: kraken at August 11, 2022 10:57 AM (Vr12I)

They'll manufacture something on DeSantis...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 11, 2022 10:59 AM (ynpvh)

384 Verdun, in particular, was a large complex of forts where the French defenders took a pounding via artillery but gave back even more death to Germans trying to take those interlocking forts.
Posted by: whig at August 11, 2022

I suspect you’ve read this but for others I recommend: The Price of Glory:Vedun 1916 by Alistair Horne.

Posted by: 7man at August 11, 2022 10:59 AM (qwO6y)

385 I don't know for sure which major actor has the most film credits, but always thought if I had to guess, I'd guess Michael Caine.
Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 11, 2022 10:46 AM (PnkSq)

Christopher Lee has hundreds of film credits, and this makes him the center of the cinema universe according to Oracle of Bacon. Michael Caine is in the top five, in terms of thousands of actors can say the worked with someone who worked with him.

I used to do an item here on the blog about it every day, but fell off when it got to be a bore.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 11, 2022 10:59 AM (44ww/)

386 Why hasn't Trump demanded this conflicted Magistrate recuse?

Posted by: Today is bad but tomorrow will be worse at August 11, 2022 10:59 AM (9FBGz)

387 Sieges were the exception to the rule but by Cromwell's time, castles were no longer safe havens due to cannons. So, for a couple of centuries, warfare became battles of movement again and choosing the proper battlefield. As you said, that probably reached its peak during the Napoleonic War and the early US Civil War. Defenses though adapted to the point that the charges of the Old Guard or Pickett's charge became idiotic exercises in killing a large number of troops pointlessly. R. Lee knew better than to emulate Northern tactics but I always thought he fought half hearted on his two Northern offensives.
Posted by: whig at August 11, 2022 10:54 AM (CXr4y)

There is a dramatic rise in lethality of battles and troops became a lot less prone to routing in the last few centuries. Used to be most deaths were in the rout.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 11, 2022 10:59 AM (b2nrj)

388 383 376 I would guess that they would rather have ANY Republican run in 24 besides Trump. Just how far they are willing to go to stop him is the question.

Posted by: kraken at August 11, 2022 10:57 AM (Vr12I)

They'll manufacture something on DeSantis...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 11, 2022 10:59 AM (ynpvh)

Hell, all they have to do is hit up Hunter's stash and plant it. Difficulty is deciding WHICH illicit thing to use...
Child porn? Hookers? Coke? Crack?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 11, 2022 11:00 AM (ynpvh)

389 That's why I think they raided Trump. They had no choice.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 11, 2022 10:35 AM (ZLI7S)

Trump - evil genius or dumb luck - has been ahead of the FBI for the last 7 years. Had to have made copies. Plus, his declassified authority expired upon his leaving as POTUS.

Declassified now, it is a crime.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 11, 2022 11:00 AM (XFvfj)

390 Posted by: ... at August 11, 2022 10:54 AM (xjshH)
*grabs the tinfoil helmet*

I think this is it. I think they wanted to do this in such a way that they could also bring in his supporters and try to make them toxic as well. I think that holding the J6 guys in durance vile for well over a year was something they thought would have more impact and get more people pissed off. They needed a new way to not only go after Trump- but also the part of the country that supports him. I think they believe this is a smaller minority that they can freeze and make repellent to the vast middle, that they see as sheep who will go whichever way the wind blows. If they can destroy that group, they will then be able to have their commie, technocratic dream.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at August 11, 2022 11:00 AM (dNqv+)

391 Wray says the FBI is the victim. These people are high-functioning sociopaths. Someone needs to say it: that our rulers have objective mental health issues regarding perception of reality and are unfit for office.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 11, 2022 11:00 AM (H8QX8)

392 Theres no ruse. My opinion is they were told to "find" an excuse to raid Trump. As they were told to "find" an excuse to spy on him years ago. The raid is the end not the means. They wanted a raid.

And how has that worked out?

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We don't know yet.

Get back to me in a few years.

Hopefully, Trump can make the most out of it. Which I hope benefits all of us.

Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned) at August 11, 2022 11:00 AM (sX1BW)

393 I wonder who we have to thank for this regulation?

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 11, 2022 10:55 AM (m7R0k)

BADORANGEMAN!

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 11, 2022 11:00 AM (U3uv2)

394 nood monkey

Posted by: SturmToddler (WhsXQ) at August 11, 2022 11:01 AM (WhsXQ)

395 386 Why hasn't Trump demanded this conflicted Magistrate recuse?

Posted by: Today is bad but tomorrow will be worse at August 11, 2022 10:59 AM (9FBGz)

Before he signed the warrant? What, Trump has telepathy too?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 11, 2022 11:01 AM (ynpvh)

396 Just how far they are willing to go to stop him is the question.
Posted by: kraken at August 11, 2022 10:57 AM (Vr12I)


There is no question. By any means necessary. They have declared him the greatest threat to our democracy EVAR.

That means literally worse than Hitler, worse than Tojo. Look what we did for that?

Posted by: blaster at August 11, 2022 11:01 AM (6TxNR)

397 And Gladys Knight during the day.

******

Yeah, yeah

And Eve Arden at dawn.

And Dawn Wells at eve.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 11, 2022 11:01 AM (kXYt5)

398 Before he signed the warrant? What, Trump has telepathy too?
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 11, 2022 11:01 AM (ynpvh


No. Right now.

Posted by: Today is bad but tomorrow will be worse at August 11, 2022 11:02 AM (9FBGz)

399 Trump - evil genius or dumb luck - has been ahead of the FBI for the last 7 years.
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It's very simple: he did nothing wrong. It's why they're increasingly desperate. They have no experience with or concept of someone like Trump.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 11, 2022 11:02 AM (H8QX8)

400 FBI/DOJ are being hammered from all sides.

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Who hammering them from the left? All I see is massive support.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 11, 2022 11:02 AM (3vQN0)

401 >>Trump - evil genius or dumb luck - has been ahead of the FBI for the last 7 years. Had to have made copies. Plus, his declassified authority expired upon his leaving as POTUS.

>>Declassified now, it is a crime.

But he's already declassified them. Did it and announced it before he left office. I think that's what this fight is about and why he took the docs in the first place.

He declassified them and the Deep State is refusing to release them.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 11, 2022 11:02 AM (ZLI7S)

402 And how has that worked out? Trump's support and his fundraising have both surged while the FBI/DOJ are being hammered from all sides.

Posted by: JackStraw
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In 20 years Trump will be gone. The FBI and DOJ will still be here. Probably in a form people like a *whole* lot less. The Left plays the long game and they play for keeps.

Don't misread this as having no hope. There is always hope and I have ZERO doubt Trump plans to make them miserable and set them back several decades if not much longer. But the details are less important to me here than all the large pieces that are clearly on the table.

Posted by: ... at August 11, 2022 11:02 AM (xjshH)

403 The Somme pretty much did in the reputation of British high command as unimaginative cretins.

Posted by: whig

I saw a documentary on the Somme on its centennial and they argued that their mistakes on the Somme taught them what not to do and how to win. I don't believe that. The same tactics were used at Passchendaele and elsewhere with the same horrifying results. In the end, the war was won by attrition.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I Survived the Mar-A-Lago Raid at August 11, 2022 11:02 AM (FVME7)

404 Why hasn't Trump demanded this conflicted Magistrate recuse?

It's funny that this magistrate is one of SIX judges who have recused themselves so far from the case he's bringing in Florida.

Posted by: t-bird at August 11, 2022 11:02 AM (ugV9/)

405 R. Lee knew better than to emulate Northern tactics but I always thought he fought half hearted on his two Northern offensives.

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Or was he fighting like a guy who knew his only real winning option was to fight to a stalemate until the 64 election and sue for peace.

Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned) at August 11, 2022 11:03 AM (sX1BW)

406 389 That's why I think they raided Trump. They had no choice.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 11, 2022 10:35 AM (ZLI7S)

Trump - evil genius or dumb luck - has been ahead of the FBI for the last 7 years. Had to have made copies. Plus, his declassified authority expired upon his leaving as POTUS.

Declassified now, it is a crime.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 11, 2022 11:00 AM (XFvfj)

But, but, but, the deep-state didn't have time to do the proper redactions, so they weren't really declassified!!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 11, 2022 11:03 AM (ynpvh)

407 The west believes in logistics (training, gear, numbers). China believes in military genius(brilliant commanding officer with the soldiers being near irrelevant by comparison).

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy
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Robert E. Lee and Napoleon were both geniuses at the tactical game and wars of movement. So was Hannibal for that matter or Alexander. But, your strategy has to fit whatever army you have so Washington's Fabian tactics arguably saved the Revolution despite losing almost every large engagement with the British. Grant's attrition tactics were not particularly brilliant from 1864-65 but he knew the US had more bodies and material to throw into the breach than did the Confederates.

For the most part, China's military history was of internal fighting and a massive population--not force projection. That is why China never really focused on logistics, training, etc. is because it did not need to. Expeditionary forces like the British or Americans had to focus on such matters. Summary, the world is not flat and a Chinese military officer will see matters differently than a US counterpart would.

Posted by: whig at August 11, 2022 11:03 AM (CXr4y)

408 NOOD Monkey (sans Pox)

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 11, 2022 11:03 AM (ynpvh)

409 350
Well, how do you feel about a viola?
Posted by: Ciampino - a viola is better than a violin because it burns longer

An orchestra is on tour when the conductor is taken ill and rushed to the hospital.
No other conductor is available for a few weeks, but the first violist volunteers to conduct, as he's been with the orchestra for years and knows the score.
Management agrees to this and he fills in until a new conductor arrives.
Next concert, he returns to his chair.
The second violist says "Hey, dude! Where've you been?"

Posted by: sal at August 11, 2022 11:03 AM (y40tE)

410 JS,

A funny story my brain made up:

The ultimate irony of the raid, if it was indeed to secure the Binders from Hell would be that Trump and Co. never realized that they had such damaging info hanging around in their basement. That this "raid" brought it to light and now will Streisand it to where it's contents become the big story.

I amuse myself.

Posted by: pawn at August 11, 2022 11:03 AM (wsHtO)

411 "...R. Lee knew better than to emulate Northern tactics but I always thought he fought half hearted..."

Good morning. Lee violated Sun Tzu's rules, here I paraphrase:
Never attack an enemy who is in a well fortified position, always flank. Never depend on the bravery of troops over superior tactics.

Posted by: gourmand du jour, fasting at August 11, 2022 11:06 AM (jTmQV)

412 Or was he fighting like a guy who knew his only real winning option was to fight to a stalemate until the 64 election and sue for peace.

Posted by: SH
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Had Lee wished, he probably could have taken Washington in 1861. Lee fought a defensive war for the most part but curiously his two major forays into the North did not show any brilliance in movement but a steady move toward engagement with the enemy. Grant's Western campaign was far more brilliant than Lee's offensives.

Posted by: whig at August 11, 2022 11:06 AM (CXr4y)

413 Wray says the FBI is the victim. These people are high-functioning sociopaths. Someone needs to say it: that our rulers have objective mental health issues regarding perception of reality and are unfit for office.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 11, 2022 11:00 AM (H8QX

They are domestic terrorists.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 11, 2022 11:08 AM (U3uv2)

414 Verdun, in particular, was a large complex of forts where the French defenders took a pounding via artillery but gave back even more death to Germans trying to take those interlocking forts.
Posted by: whig at August 11, 2022

Verdun. Three hundred days and over 700,000 casualties, combined.

Madness

Posted by: Javems at August 11, 2022 11:09 AM (AmoqO)

415 In which case it sounds like I'm bragging. But it gives me clarity. I am nothing without mental clarity. I might as well be dead.

Posted by: ... at August 11, 2022 10:55 AM (xjshH)

I didn't take it that way, nor am I ascribing to myself that ability in any level bordering a superpower. I try; I succeed sometimes; I fail others. It is rare is all I am saying, in my experience.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 11, 2022 11:10 AM (U3uv2)

416 I suspect you’ve read this but for others I recommend: The Price of Glory:Vedun 1916 by Alistair Horne.

Posted by: 7man
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Thanks.
If you care to read a lot of boring technical stuff interspersed with brilliance at summarizing the problems in WWI, Churchill's multi volume History of WWI is really good (course from the winning side though). Churchill was one of the few in Britain was equally at home with the Navy or the Army.

Posted by: whig at August 11, 2022 11:10 AM (CXr4y)

417 Blackadder IV (Goes Forth) highlights a lot of the stupidity at high ranks of the British. The Somme pretty much did in the reputation of British high command as unimaginative cretins.

"Good morning, the Somme Public Baths, no running, shouting, or piddling in the shallow end."

"I mean, who'd have noticed another madman around here?"

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 11, 2022 11:12 AM (RkC6l)

418

Our silence is violence.
Our speech is violence.
Our existence is unacceptable.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 11, 2022 11:14 AM (63Dwl)

419 I saw a documentary on the Somme on its centennial and they argued that their mistakes on the Somme taught them what not to do and how to win. I don't believe that. The same tactics were used at Passchendaele and elsewhere with the same horrifying results. In the end, the war was won by attrition. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Yeah. I am with you on the British learning. Both Haig and French as British commanders were appalling and that was in part because the French simply refused to accept German presence on their soil. So, the German trenches were livable but the French and British trenchs were always regarded as 'temporary' so their high commands refused any effort to make them livable as that would discourage troops from going over the top. Russian generalship and tactics were by and large even worse as were their peasant armies. Austria was little better. Germany was about the only really competent army for most of the war but had the problem that their enemies would not accept defeat and Germans could not stop and proclaim victory after monstrous losses because of the Kaiser and leaders promised Germans the Franco Prussian war part deux.

Posted by: whig at August 11, 2022 11:19 AM (CXr4y)

420 281 The real Y2K disaster is that people didn't standardize how they wrote the date. 01-02-03 might be year-month-day, or five other things.

Today is 11-AUG-2022. That is idiot-proof. Half of everyone don't seem to mind a little more confusion in the world. I curse them harder than Feanor.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 11, 2022 10:37 AM (44ww/)
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Computers prefer 2022-08-11 then all dates are sortable very easily.

Posted by: Ciampino - sorting and searching at August 11, 2022 11:20 AM (qfLjt)

421 Like, I will look at things from angles that I don't like just to see if I'm missing something.

Posted by: ...
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Important. Also important, thinking like your opponent. So in this case, after you do all the rational thought experiments, you have to drink a bottle of cough syrup, to do the irrational thought experiments.

All kidding aside, things don't always make sense, even in hindsight. Bad information and emotions also drive events, not just rational motives. Usually the progs are following a script. That's predictable. When the script doesn't go as planned they don't react logically, but defensively and with emotion.

Posted by: consider all the crazy shit - at August 11, 2022 11:32 AM (aKJUg)

422 As you might expect, a lot of coping and seething follows:

@historyinmemes
Facial reconstruction of Ramesses 2 the greatest pharoah of ancient egypt (rules about 3300 years ago)
tinyurl.com/mumufrwh

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 11, 2022 11:54 AM (IEa8U)

423 422 As you might expect, a lot of coping and seething follows:

@historyinmemes
Facial reconstruction of Ramesses 2 the greatest pharoah of ancient egypt (rules about 3300 years ago)
tinyurl.com/mumufrwh

Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 11, 2022 11:54 AM (IEa8U)

Heh.

Posted by: Javems at August 11, 2022 12:40 PM (AmoqO)

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