Kyrsten Sinema Agrees to $730 Billion Build Back Brandon Bill

They're claiming it's a $430 billion bill, because, supposedly, $300 billion will not be spent, but used to retired debt. $730 billion will be raised by increased taxes, $430 will be spent, $300 billion will be spent to retire debt.

Only I don't believe that last part. I think the full $730 billion will be spent over the next several years, with a plan -- an IOU -- to retire $300 billion in debt in the last five years of the ten-year plan.

Which will never happen.

But this is how the score bills to Con the Rubes.

I suppose the good news is: It could have been worse.

Democratic U.S. Senator Kyrsten Sinema said on Thursday she agreed to "move forward" on a $430 billion drug pricing, energy and tax bill, subject to a Senate arbiter's approval of the bill, which Democrats intend to pass over Republican objections.
The bill known as the Inflation Reduction Act...

LOL.

As mentioned yesterday, this bill increases federal spending in an already highly inflationary environment. It will not "reduce inflation." It will increase it.

Theoretically, in the "out-years," the years in the tail end of the 10-year scheme of the spending plan, cuts in spending will be made and that will in theory cut inflation... six, seven or eight years from now.

But 1, that doesn't help us with the acute and unbearably high inflation we're seeing now and 2, no one believes those cuts will ever take place. They're an accounting gimmick to get the spending through while pretending the bill is actually "revenue neutral."

Congress does not have to follow through on this spending cut "plan." They announce a "plan" just to get their spending increases smuggled through reconciliation. Next year, they can pass another ten year "plan" that also increases spending -- but also claims to "cut spending," promising cuts in the out years.

And those cuts never come.

And we just keep increasing spending forever.

And increasing inflation.

This is the "Inflation Expansion Act."

... introduced last week by Schumer and Democratic Senator Joe Manchin, is a key priority for Democrats and President Joe Biden ahead of November's election battle for control of the U.S. Congress.
The act will help people save money on prescription drugs and health premiums, Biden said in a statement on Thursday.
"It will make our tax system more fair by making corporations pay a minimum tax," he said.

Is it just me, or does anyone else find your enthusiasm for protecting corporations -- which not only paid to "fortify the election," but then also bankrolled the riots and arsons and murders of BLM -- falling to zero?

They're a Democrat constituency now. They can get their favors from the Democrats.

I don't know why we're doing favors for people who hate us. Fuck them to hell. I don't care if the whole Fortune 500 winds up paying 70% corporate tax rates.

Democrats will need all 50 of their votes -- plus Vice President Suzy Fartclam as a tie-breaking vote -- to pass this through budget reconciliation, assuming the parliamentarian permits it. The parliamentarian will review each provision to determine that each is actually germane to the budget and that the whole, theoretically, reduces the budget deficit. Which is what is required to pass a budget bill on 50 votes instead of 60.

If any Democrats get covid or, who knows, monkeypox, that would complicate matters.

Posted by: Ace at 12:03 PM

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1 Vice President Suzy Fartclam....lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 05, 2022 12:04 PM (VwHCD)

2 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:04 PM (Zz0t1)

3 Broke Back Brandon

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2022 12:04 PM (ynpvh)

4 Oh, she left us in suspense for a whole day?

Real maverick.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:04 PM (LvTSG)

5 I NOODed

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2022 12:06 PM (ynpvh)

6 Fuck all these people.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 05, 2022 12:06 PM (89T5c)

7 Inflation Expansion Act: trying to catch up with Nadler's pants...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2022 12:06 PM (ynpvh)

8 "It will make our tax system more fair by making corporations pay a minimum tax," he said.

Their failure to understand how this works means they need to be launched to the sun.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:06 PM (Zz0t1)

9 Someone has picked sides, in public, I see.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 05, 2022 12:07 PM (XvPQV)

10 Every single number in this "bill" is bullshit.

The money's already been spent. The rest is just shuffling papers and mugging for the camera.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2022 12:07 PM (/EuRN)

11 The Uniparty is the Mob, The US Taxpayer is the Tiki Lounge, Sinema just threw the Molotov Cocktail.

Her, Manchin, Schumer and The Turtle are booking it in their taxpayer funded Lincoln Continental.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 05, 2022 12:07 PM (wGdPE)

12 I thought the Infrastructure Bill was supposed to fix all of our economic ills.

Was that wrong?

Was I misinformed?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:07 PM (LvTSG)

13 I NOODed
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2022 12:06 PM (ynpvh)

I NOODlum'd before you.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:07 PM (Zz0t1)

14 Sadly, I suspect by the time she has to stand re-election, everyone will have forgotten this.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 05, 2022 12:07 PM (XvPQV)

15 Paul Ryan had a 10 year plan to balance the budget by 2019.

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2022 12:07 PM (ZiV6b)

16 >>>I don't know why we're doing favors for people who hate us. Fuck them to hell.

This, too, is the story of GOPe.

Posted by: Comrade Flounder, Wrecker, Hoarder, Saboteur at August 05, 2022 12:07 PM (U3uv2)

17 As mentioned yesterday, this bill increases federal spending in an already highly inflationary environment. It will not "reduce inflation." It will increase it.
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Especially because it will involve new debt. Sure, they say it won't, but that will be a lie. The tax increases won't raise revenues enough (they never do) and even if they do, it won't raise them fast enough for immediate spending. So that means new debt, and that means more pseudo money, and that means more inflation. Period.

Only a balanced budget is non-inflationary.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2022 12:07 PM (WWh8n)

18 Some wise guy said : in the end we're all dead anyway.

But this isn't a viable way to run a railroad much less a government.

May they catch monkey pox.

Posted by: torabora at August 05, 2022 12:07 PM (Y274z)

19 9 Someone has picked sides, in public, I see.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 05, 2022 12:07 PM (XvPQV)

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Did anyone ever doubt how she would vote on the KJB confirmation floor vote?

Her demonstrations of maverickness are all facades.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:07 PM (LvTSG)

20 You mean she voted along party lines? Lemme put on my shocked face.

Posted by: NR Pax at August 05, 2022 12:07 PM (4olE8)

21 Just what we need 80 thousand more IRS agents.. Armed IRS agents

Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2022 12:07 PM (bs+z0)

22 13 I NOODed
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2022 12:06 PM (ynpvh)

I NOODlum'd before you.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:07 PM (Zz0t1)

That may be so, but I'm not wearing pants.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2022 12:08 PM (ynpvh)

23 hiya

Posted by: JT at August 05, 2022 12:08 PM (T4tVD)

24 21 Just what we need 80 thousand more IRS agents.. Armed IRS agents

Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2022 12:07 PM (bs+z0)

I'd like to see them disarmed...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2022 12:08 PM (ynpvh)

25 Congress does not have to follow through on this spending cut "plan." They announce a "plan" just to get their spending increases smuggled through reconciliation. Next year, they can pass another ten year "plan" that also increases spending -- but also claims to "cut spending," promising cuts in the out years.

And those cuts never come.

And we just keep increasing spending forever.
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Just like bond issues for things like highways and stadiums. The bonds are longer in duration than the expected usable lifespan of the structure and so you keep paying even after the damn thing is replaced, or you simply roll it over and refinance the remainder out of general funds and declare it "paid off."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2022 12:08 PM (WWh8n)

26 They are weaponizing the IRS

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 05, 2022 12:08 PM (FHzKS)

27 Is it just me, or does anyone else find your enthusiasm for protecting corporations --

I was never an anti-capitalist, but rather an anti-corporatist. And still am.

Posted by: kallisto at August 05, 2022 12:09 PM (dCxaZ)

28 I suspected she was going to cave in to the Marxists

Posted by: Skip's phone at August 05, 2022 12:09 PM (6nIFJ)

29 And yeah Ace, despite working for big tech companies, I'm done defending them.

Just waiting for the full cyberpunk dystopia...hoping to get a gen 2 fembot and wired reflexes and synthcardium before I cash out.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 05, 2022 12:09 PM (XvPQV)

30 Fuck all these people.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

Do we have time ?

Posted by: JT at August 05, 2022 12:09 PM (T4tVD)

31 22 That may be so, but I'm not wearing pants.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2022 12:08 PM (ynpvh)

23 hiya
Posted by: JT at August 05, 2022 12:08 PM (T4tVD)

Um...I hope these two are not related...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2022 12:09 PM (ynpvh)

32 Econ 101 Textbook: Increasing government spending causes inflation

Democrats: We need to give more government money to our clients. Also inflation. I mean, uh, giving this money to our clients will cause, sorry, reduce inflation!

Also Democrats: Econ 101 Textbooks are racist

Posted by: 18-1 at August 05, 2022 12:09 PM (ESjRY)

33 Who is this funky parliamentarian anyway?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 05, 2022 12:09 PM (63Dwl)

34 12 I thought the Infrastructure Bill was supposed to fix all of our economic ills.

Was that wrong?

Was I misinformed?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:07 PM (LvTSG)

It should have, but Evil MAGA Republicans got in the way and wrecked everything.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2022 12:09 PM (/EuRN)

35 Democrats will need all 50 of their votes -- plus Vice President Suzy Fartclam as a tie-breaking vote -- to pass this through budget reconciliation, assuming the parliamentarian permits it. The parliamentarian will review each provision to determine that each is actually germane to the budget and that the whole, theoretically, reduces the budget deficit. Which is what is required to pass a budget bill on 50 votes instead of 60.

If any Democrats get covid or, who knows, monkeypox, that would complicate matters.
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They'll Zoom-vote or some such. They'll get what they want.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2022 12:09 PM (WWh8n)

36 29 And yeah Ace, despite working for big tech companies, I'm done defending them.

Just waiting for the full cyberpunk dystopia...hoping to get a gen 2 fembot and wired reflexes and synthcardium before I cash out.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 05, 2022 12:09 PM (XvPQV)

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You will get customizable, but non-functional genitalia, and you will like it!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:09 PM (LvTSG)

37 Just waiting for the full cyberpunk dystopia...hoping to get a gen 2 fembot and wired reflexes and synthcardium before I cash out.

"Machine gun jubblies?" - Austin Powers

Posted by: Ian S. at August 05, 2022 12:10 PM (ZGrMX)

38 Congress does not have to follow through on this spending cut "plan." They announce a "plan" just to get their spending increases smuggled through reconciliation. Next year, they can pass another ten year "plan" that also increases spending -- but also claims to "cut spending," promising cuts in the out years.

Unlike congress, baby, you know I love you, and will stick around. If you give it up now and sleep with me on the first date, I still plan to keep seeing you, and not ghost you at all.

Posted by: Average Fuckboy at August 05, 2022 12:10 PM (JCZqz)

39
Is it not about time for the WH to announce Slow Joe latest positive COVID test?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at August 05, 2022 12:10 PM (pNxlR)

40 They also say we are in Recovery Summer and that they will raise interest rates over the next 3 months. They lie a lot.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 05, 2022 12:10 PM (2graF)

41
That may be so, but I'm not wearing pants.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2022 12:08 PM (ynpvh)

You win.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:10 PM (Zz0t1)

42 Ace, the problem with fucking corporations to hell by imposing higher taxes on them is that ultimately we're fucking ourselves in the ass. There's no such thing as a tax on a corporation. Technically, there is. But practically there is not. Corporations merely pass their tax burden on to their customers or clients in the form of higher prices. So any higher taxes "on corporations" are not paid by them. They are paid by us. That is sadly true of ANYTHING that increases costs on corporations. Red tape, increased insurance premiums, whatever. It's always us that pays it in the end.

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 05, 2022 12:11 PM (iFTx/)

43 Inflation Resurgence Act

Posted by: Skip's phone at August 05, 2022 12:11 PM (6nIFJ)

44 Kyrsten Sinema Agrees to $730 Billion Build Back Brandon Bill
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Like there was ever any doubt.

It was all a matter of price.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 05, 2022 12:11 PM (SAphm)

45 Fuck all these people.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory

Do we have time ?
Posted by: JT at August 05, 2022 12:09 PM (T4tVD)

There's ALWAYS time for sodomy and Godzilla.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:11 PM (Zz0t1)

46 $730 billion. BILLION!!!
What the actually loving fu*k is the matter with these people??!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at August 05, 2022 12:11 PM (anj39)

47 They are determined to jam this through before November when they fear they will lose control of congress. Its like throwing freaking jet fuel on a fire for inflation, and all we can do is watch in horror.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2022 12:11 PM (Ivdso)

48 And it only took her what, less than 24 hours to cave? This was all theater from the very beginning.

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 05, 2022 12:11 PM (iFTx/)

49 >>Their failure to understand how this works means they need to be launched to the sun.

They know. They are, get this, lying.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2022 12:11 PM (ZLI7S)

50 Her demonstrations of maverickness are all facades.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:07 PM (LvTSG)

The deuce you say. My world is shattered.

Next you'll tell me Hot Tulsi with all that amazing integrity (Hillary HATES her - number 10 will SHOCK you) is just another grifting actress commie theatricunt. Like the rest of the GOP.

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2022 12:11 PM (ZiV6b)

51 Does this keep the SALT tax caps in place?

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at August 05, 2022 12:11 PM (53oGX)

52 As mentioned yesterday, this bill increases federal spending in an already highly inflationary environment. It will not "reduce inflation." It will increase it.

As I keep noting, it could lower prices as demand falls during the depression this bill will cause.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 05, 2022 12:11 PM (PY/t0)

53 21 Just what we need 80 thousand more IRS agents.. Armed IRS agents

Posted by: It's me donna
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That is the real kick in the ass---they would not need that many if they were not aiming this squarely at the middle class and small business owners. It also funds a super squad of 300 or so agents paid nearly $250 k per year as a goon squad to go after people like Trump, Thiel, or other wealthy opponents of the regime.

We are approaching the same conditions that led to Runnymede under King John.

Posted by: whig at August 05, 2022 12:12 PM (CXr4y)

54 Did anyone ever doubt how she would vote on the KJB confirmation floor vote?

Her demonstrations of maverickness are all facades.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:07 PM (LvTSG)

She's just trying to con her constituents. She votes with the Democrats, what, 96% of time? She's only remarkable because she OCCASIONALLY delays her vote or speaks out.

Whoever is running her is better at this than any of our stupid Senators' puppetmasters.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 05, 2022 12:12 PM (XvPQV)

55 Bidenvilles here we come.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at August 05, 2022 12:12 PM (wUHYj)

56 I want some of you tech people to hack all the social credit systems and similar panopticon systems and use your power for good.

This is one of my best daydreams.

Posted by: Emmie at August 05, 2022 12:12 PM (t62xj)

57 Corporations don't pay taxes. They raise prices and add surcharges.

Posted by: huerfano at August 05, 2022 12:12 PM (dTFZY)

58 Elimination of all deductions and write offs and GOVERNMENT SUBSIDIES would ensure corporations would pay taxes.

If there was a profit to tax.
Sinema should stick to eating carpets. Specialize

Posted by: torabora at August 05, 2022 12:12 PM (Y274z)

59 50 Next you'll tell me Hot Tulsi with all that amazing integrity (Hillary HATES her - number 10 will SHOCK you) is just another grifting actress commie theatricunt. Like the rest of the GOP.
Posted by: ... at August 05, 2022 12:11 PM (ZiV6b)

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At the height of her popularity with the Horde, she still wanted to take away all our guns and flood the nation will illegal immigrants.

She just didn't buy into Russian collusion, which made up for the rest, or something.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:12 PM (LvTSG)

60 43 Inflation Resurgence Act
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Yep. But look at COIN! Now that Blackrock is in bed with them.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 05, 2022 12:12 PM (2graF)

61 I was nearing despondency yesterday. Now I've arrived.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 05, 2022 12:12 PM (sWM8x)

62 The CBO already said that this will increase inflation. Also, how is subsidizing windmills a budgetary item?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 05, 2022 12:13 PM (lTGtQ)

63 Just like bond issues for things like highways and stadiums.

Or a toll road/bridge to pay for it, and the day that they stop charging the toll never seems to arrive.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2022 12:13 PM (Ivdso)

64 56 While you're at it, please hack the fake pixel money systems as well.

Posted by: Emmie at August 05, 2022 12:13 PM (t62xj)

65 [w/apologies to Shel Silverstein]

Put another nail in the coffin,
Shit on me and tell me it's raining beans ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 05, 2022 12:13 PM (TZivQ)

66 So does this 730 billion now get encumbered every year? Like the "Stimulus" and "Omnibus" of 2009, 10, 11, 12..........

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2022 12:13 PM (ZiV6b)

67 I don't believe Manchin's claim he agreed to this in return for Democrats allowing a stalled pipeline to be completed. Manchin could have waited three months and gotten all the pipelines his dark heart dreams of, from a GOP Senate.

He voted for this to throw a lifeline to Democrats, and to Biden. He voted for this, we will no doubt learn, because West Virginia is going to get paid. Big time.

When $700 billion is being spent it isn't equally divided among the states. His state, and especially his donors, are getting big money from this bill.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 05, 2022 12:13 PM (1QyFB)

68 I wouldn't worry about missing votes. There are several Republicans eager to help the Dems out if one of there's gets sick!

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at August 05, 2022 12:13 PM (JMAcK)

69 Someone has picked sides, in public, I see.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Never pick sides against the family again.

Posted by: Michael Corleone at August 05, 2022 12:13 PM (j+4+t)

70 Posted by: Elric Blade at August 05, 2022 12:11 PM (iFTx/)
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Sing it loud and sing it proud. I make this point to liberals all the time. This is one of the few points that they generally do grok pretty quickly - it's fun to see the light dawn in.

Posted by: 496 at August 05, 2022 12:13 PM (VJsqe)

71 42 Ace, the problem with fucking corporations to hell by imposing higher taxes on them is that ultimately we're fucking ourselves in the ass. There's no such thing as a tax on a corporation. Technically, there is. But practically there is not. Corporations merely pass their tax burden on to their customers or clients in the form of higher prices. So any higher taxes "on corporations" are not paid by them. They are paid by us. That is sadly true of ANYTHING that increases costs on corporations. Red tape, increased insurance premiums, whatever. It's always us that pays it in the end.
Posted by: Elric Blade at August 05, 2022 12:11 PM (iFTx/)

Some of it is experienced as a loss to existing investors but investment spending will decline so that future rates of return will go back to normal. Investment spending or lack thereof is what will consequently impact the price and availability of goods faced by consumers.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 05, 2022 12:13 PM (b2nrj)

72 Notice how no Democrat EVER goes against the party? Oh sure they tease a lot. But in the end they always do what they’re told.

Republicans on the other hand…

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 12:13 PM (OalnH)

73 FUNFLATION SUMMER!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:13 PM (Zz0t1)

74 You will get customizable, but non-functional genitalia, and you will like it!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:09 PM (LvTSG)

So...still an improvement then...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 05, 2022 12:14 PM (XvPQV)

75 The economy is already roaring - check out the jobs report. President Biden is "The Jobinator"! I think he knows what he's doing with BBB ;-)

Posted by: Sid at August 05, 2022 12:14 PM (n8wau)

76 73 FUNFLATION SUMMER!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:13 PM (Zz0t1)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9ml3nyww80

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2022 12:14 PM (ynpvh)

77 "I will gladly pay you Friday (2030) for 430 billion hamburgers today." J. Wellington Wimpy

Posted by: illiniwek at August 05, 2022 12:14 PM (Cus5s)

78 Congress is still under the Democrat/ Marxist so they will vote at least %51 for it

Posted by: Skip's phone at August 05, 2022 12:14 PM (6nIFJ)

79 12 I thought the Infrastructure Bill was supposed to fix all of our economic ills.

Was that wrong?

Was I misinformed

ITS FUNNY BECAUSE BIKE LANES ARE TECHNICALLY INFRASTRUCTURE

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at August 05, 2022 12:14 PM (Z6Pt6)

80 Bidenvilles here we come.

The Obamavilles started under his regime, started to diminish under Trump and are expanding again now.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2022 12:14 PM (Ivdso)

81 I remember in the Long Long Ago, when there was a hugely controversial spending bill passed by the federal government. It was called the "American Recovery and Reinvestment Act" (ARRA) and was a "stimulus" package in the wake of the financial crisis. It was also one of the first pieces of "flagship" policy by the Obama Administration.

The bill for that was $737 billion and it later, of course, moved up. It was extremely controversial at the time. Now, however, $730 billion is just chump change because the government is totally insane. We have but one opportunity to do moderately better on this one, and it is an essentially meaningless distinction. ARRA passed with zero Republicans in the House and three turncoat fuckers in the Senate. This one might pass with no Republican support, making it marginally less offensive than ARRA.

So Vote Red, I guess.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2022 12:14 PM (WWh8n)

82 Democrats will need all 50 of their votes

Are they bringing Leahy in on a gurney?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at August 05, 2022 12:14 PM (lTGtQ)

83 Borrowing money to pay off debt...how does that work?

Posted by: BignJames at August 05, 2022 12:14 PM (AwYPR)

84 37 Just waiting for the full cyberpunk dystopia...hoping to get a gen 2 fembot and wired reflexes and synthcardium before I cash out.

"Machine gun jubblies?" - Austin Powers
Posted by: Ian S. at August 05, 2022 12:10 PM (ZGrMX)

Guns AND boobs. I'm into it.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 05, 2022 12:14 PM (XvPQV)

85 I just love our political system. It just... works. Not for the people mind you. For them, the political class, it is the perfect system.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 05, 2022 12:14 PM (BFigT)

86 >>The economy is already roaring - check out the jobs report. President Biden is "The Jobinator"! I think he knows what he's doing with BBB ;-)

To be fair, you're a mouth breathing idiot.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2022 12:14 PM (ZLI7S)

87 Posted by: Sid at August 05, 2022 12:14 PM (n8wau)

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So, if this jobs report is so unalloyed good and it happened without BBB, that means passing BBB didn't create these conditions. So, why would you think that passing BBB would actually make things better?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:15 PM (LvTSG)

88 While you're at it, please hack the fake pixel money systems as well.
Posted by: Emmie

End the IRS. There's no need to collect taxes. Just print moar money!

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2022 12:15 PM (j+4+t)

89 Imagine a society so economically illiterate and irresponsible it has laws with absurd names like "Inflation Reduction Act".

Posted by: Redundant "Duh" Observations R Us at August 05, 2022 12:15 PM (OTzUX)

90 I'm sure there's a few thousand bucks in this 3/4 trillion-dollar spending bill that might help some poor disadvantaged minority so if you oppose it, you're a racist bigot that wants to see people die.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 05, 2022 12:15 PM (qH6FZ)

91 Come what may, I don't care, I still want to play with Sinema's fat titties.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 05, 2022 12:15 PM (WHt4f)

92 The solution to woke multi-nationals is somewhat simple, though there is no political will for it at the moment.

Want to sell products and services in the US?

Half or more of your employee total salary must be in the US AND US citizens
Half or more of your number of employees must be in the US AND US citizens

Posted by: 18-1 at August 05, 2022 12:15 PM (ESjRY)

93 Only thing worse than a drunk on a bender is a Democrat with the power to tax.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 05, 2022 12:15 PM (0mqLi)

94
Guns AND boobs. I'm into it.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 05, 2022 12:14 PM (XvPQV)

America. Fuck yeah.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:16 PM (Zz0t1)

95 I don't know why we're doing favors for people who hate us. Fuck them to hell. I don't care if the whole Fortune 500 winds up paying 70% corporate tax rates.
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I wouldn't care either, except for the fact that corporations pay higher taxes by raising prices on the goods and services they provide.

So every consumer ends up paying those higher "corporate" taxes.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at August 05, 2022 12:16 PM (MvHI3)

96 Or a toll road/bridge to pay for it, and the day that they stop charging the toll never seems to arrive.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2022 12:13 PM (Ivdso)

Yep. Bastards.

Posted by: PA Turnpike Commission at August 05, 2022 12:16 PM (89T5c)

97 The way to ease inflation is to borrow $800 billion and throw it at useless projects for ZERO return. Every single economist knows this.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 05, 2022 12:16 PM (u4CEu)

98 "Democrats will need all 50 of their votes"

No, they won't. How much you wanna bet that at least 2-3 GOP assfuckers join the Dums on this?

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 05, 2022 12:16 PM (iFTx/)

99 42 Ace, the problem with fucking corporations to hell by imposing higher taxes on them is that ultimately we're fucking ourselves in the ass. There's no such thing as a tax on a corporation. Technically, there is. But practically there is not. Corporations merely pass their tax burden on to their customers or clients in the form of higher prices. So any higher taxes "on corporations" are not paid by them. They are paid by us. That is sadly true of ANYTHING that increases costs on corporations. Red tape, increased insurance premiums, whatever. It's always us that pays it in the end.

Posted by: Elric Blade
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Elric, that is not really true as a matter of empirical data or theory. It depends on whether the demand for the corporation's goods are elastic or not and whether substitutes exist. A company with elastic demand for its services has a hard time passing on extra costs--so, the costs are eaten internally via less money to equity holders and to workers. Usually the latter eats the costs.

Always be careful of using rhetoric (corporations do not pay taxes) versus the actual situation. It depends, like most other things, on the situation.

Posted by: whig at August 05, 2022 12:16 PM (CXr4y)

100 They got Sinema's vote by dropping the tax on "carried interest" income, which is how fund managers for big financial institutions like Blackrock and Goldman Sachs are paid. They get taxed at 20% interest. Also some changes to the supposed 15% minimum corporate tax (which wasn't really that anyway).

So, three takeaways, in my opinion:
1) We know who owns Senator Sinema.
2) A major source of funding for this bill just went "foop" and disappeared into the ether. So, it can't do anything to reduce deficit spending now.
3) If the Dems really cared about carried interest they would have sweet talked a couple of Republican buddies (Collins, Murkowski, Romney) to vote for this. It really shows who the Dems care about, and it ain't you and me.

Posted by: George V at August 05, 2022 12:16 PM (ugbqN)

101 So pumping moar oil and keeping the Free Health Care Seekers out of our country would not improve things?

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 05, 2022 12:16 PM (2graF)

102 I’m done believing the corp tax is a tax on consumers thing. This is 2003 National Review talking point 101. Along with how if we send illegals home tomatoes will cost and extra 2 cents.

When Apple has $250 billion in the bank I’m kinda thinking an extra couple of percentage points in taxes isn’t going to make the iPhone more expensive.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 12:16 PM (OalnH)

103 I'm sure there's a few thousand bucks in this 3/4 trillion-dollar spending bill that might help some poor disadvantaged minority so if you oppose it, you're a racist bigot that wants to see people die.
Posted by: lowandslow

And???

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2022 12:17 PM (j+4+t)

104 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9ml3nyww80
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2022 12:14 PM (ynpvh)

That's a good song, actually.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:17 PM (Zz0t1)

105 How is DU taking it that their precious BBB has moved from being an epoch-defining, $3.5 trillion remaking of the entire country to being merely a largely (but not totally) oppressive grift that's even smaller than the "bipartisan infrastructure bill" that they already got as a compromise last year?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2022 12:17 PM (WWh8n)

106 91 Come what may, I don't care, I still want to play with Sinema's fat titties.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 05, 2022 12:15 PM (WHt4f)

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Every politician has his/her price.

Posted by: 496 at August 05, 2022 12:17 PM (VJsqe)

107 Short of being dead every dem will vote for this. Covids, no problem, we'll just wrap you up in a biohazard suit with oxygen tank and roll your ass in for the vote. Worked for Byrd. He voted from a hospital bed.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 05, 2022 12:17 PM (BYd+X)

108 #53
IRS already runs a special desk for people like Trump. Trump's team is on the pay as you go plan with the IRS reviewing everything that goes on continuously. The very rich get that scrutiny because without them the government would run out of cash to pay it's ongoing bills.

There won't be any increased surveillance of the rich. The IRS increased scrutiny will be on us.

Posted by: torabora at August 05, 2022 12:17 PM (Y274z)

109 I want some of you tech people to hack all the social credit systems and similar panopticon systems and use your power for good.

This is one of my best daydreams.

Posted by: Emmie at August 05, 2022 12:12 PM (t62xj)

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It would be easier and far more effective to take down all the electrical, communication, & media grids.

Let's get this thing on already ... Where is John Galt?

Make Irish Democracy Great Again!

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 05, 2022 12:17 PM (TZivQ)

110 DC Mayor Bowser requested National Guard soldiers to stop TX and FL from shipping their illegals to DC.

SecDef Austin denied the request.

https://bit.ly/3Q1jHFj

Posted by: bonhomme at August 05, 2022 12:18 PM (eyxn4)

111 29 hoping to get a gen 2 fembot and wired reflexes and synthcardium before I cash out.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 05, 2022 12:09 PM

You ask for the Alexandra Daddario model, you get the Brittney Griner edition.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 05, 2022 12:18 PM (Oq/TM)

112
When Apple has $250 billion in the bank I’m kinda thinking an extra couple of percentage points in taxes isn’t going to make the iPhone more expensive.
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 12:16 PM (OalnH)

Yes it will.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:18 PM (Zz0t1)

113 I wonder if Sid will be back here toward the end of Q4 and in the first half of next year when big corporations - led by Big Tech - start really running up the score on layoffs.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2022 12:18 PM (WWh8n)

114 And those cuts never come.

And we just keep increasing spending forever.

..

Tee hee!

Posted by: Gope Leadership at August 05, 2022 12:18 PM (9FBGz)

115 Hot Tulsi is Ted Cruz in a wig.

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2022 12:18 PM (ZiV6b)

116 110 DC Mayor Bowser requested National Guard soldiers to stop TX and FL from shipping their illegals to DC.

SecDef Austin denied the request.

https://bit.ly/3Q1jHFj

Posted by: bonhomme at August 05, 2022 12:18 PM (eyxn4)

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Oh...interesting...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:18 PM (LvTSG)

117 A new mRna jab Adverse Effect has been ID'd:

Genital necrosis

https://tinyurl.com/5n8jm47f

Posted by: kallisto at August 05, 2022 12:18 PM (dCxaZ)

118 End the IRS. There's no need to collect taxes. Just print moar money!

Posted by: rickb223
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That eliminates the ability to manipulate who gets what and who gets punished. MMT actually posits the only reason for taxes is to control inflation by curbing buying power and distribution of income. Thus, the emphasis is on control.

Posted by: whig at August 05, 2022 12:18 PM (CXr4y)

119 Come on Monkeypox! Spartacus and Swallowswell are just waiting for you 👍

Posted by: LASue at August 05, 2022 12:18 PM (Ed8Zd)

120 There are three things that happen to resources, consumed, invested, or hoarded in non-productive assets(an increase in this last category tends to be a bad sign).

An increase in corporate tax rates decreases the incentive to invest(much like an increase in the income tax decreases the incentive to work) as rate of returns are lower, so prices of investments will decline until rates of return are sufficient to attract investment. Overall this is a decrease in investment spending, with corresponding consequences.

So raising corporate tax rates shifts the balance more towards consuming today and away from investing for the future.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 05, 2022 12:19 PM (b2nrj)

121 For this spending extravaganza, your taxes WILL go up.

From the US Senate:

https://t.co/axVcyx0k9G

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 05, 2022 12:19 PM (N39Ws)

122 The "Piss on Your Face and Tell You It's Rain" Act

Posted by: brak at August 05, 2022 12:19 PM (j5Tg0)

123 And the big concession Sinema demanded on behalf of the people of Arizona?

Continuation of the "carried interest" deduction, which benefits New York hedge funds.

I guess we know who is funding her.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 05, 2022 12:19 PM (I2/tG)

124 Cherry 2000 or a 33-S

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 05, 2022 12:19 PM (0mqLi)

125 Is Bernie still agin it?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2022 12:19 PM (oi8Dv)

126 We could say the government spends like drunken sailors, but that would be unfair to drunken sailors, because the sailors are spending their own money. - Ronald Reagan

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 05, 2022 12:19 PM (PY/t0)

127 Yes it will.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:18 PM (Zz0t1)

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It always will.

Posted by: 496 at August 05, 2022 12:19 PM (VJsqe)

128 Elric, that is not really true as a matter of empirical data or theory. It depends on whether the demand for the corporation's goods are elastic or not and whether substitutes exist. A company with elastic demand for its services has a hard time passing on extra costs--so, the costs are eaten internally via less money to equity holders and to workers. Usually the latter eats the costs.

It would be hilarious if raising corporate tax rates resulting in gutting a lot of HR and Diversity weenies.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at August 05, 2022 12:19 PM (wmDcS)

129 There won't be any increased surveillance of the rich. The IRS increased scrutiny will be on us.
Posted by: torabora at August 05, 2022 12:17 PM (Y274z)
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Yup. They wouldn't need to double the size of the IRS if they weren't planning to go hard on normal people. Sell something on Facebook or eBay? Bend over.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2022 12:19 PM (WWh8n)

130 Republicans are vehemently protesting this unprecedented expansion of IRS power, but nobody's going to believe them unless they work "root and branch" into their speeches.

Root. And branch.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at August 05, 2022 12:19 PM (sWM8x)

131 Traditionally governments have tried to avoid recessions on the one hand and hyperinflation on the other.

But Biden's so awesome he's given us BOTH at the same time...which I didn't even think was possible.

Posted by: 18-1 at August 05, 2022 12:20 PM (ESjRY)

132 87 Posted by: Sid at August 05, 2022 12:14 PM (n8wau)

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So, if this jobs report is so unalloyed good and it happened without BBB, that means passing BBB didn't create these conditions. So, why would you think that passing BBB would actually make things better?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:15 PM (LvTSG)

The adjusted jobs number is good... however, the unadjusted number shows a net loss of jobs.
The difference and how applied is the key.
It deserves scrutiny.

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at August 05, 2022 12:20 PM (53oGX)

133 Genital necrosis?

If Hunter's dick fell off...

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 05, 2022 12:20 PM (0mqLi)

134 91 Come what may, I don't care, I still want to play with Sinema's fat titties.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 05, 2022 12:15 PM (WHt4f)

The things some people will do for chest-centered flesh-and-fat coupled to mammary glands...

Posted by: Thrawn at August 05, 2022 12:20 PM (Rl7KJ)

135 Is it just me, or does anyone else find your enthusiasm for protecting corporations -- which not only paid to "fortify the election," but then also bankrolled the riots and arsons and murders of BLM -- falling to zero?
_________

You left out the lockdown shutting down all their smaller competitors. For that alone, I'd say 70% is "woefully inadequate" as liberals said when I was young.

But then, I've long been a Chesterton fan, and never QUITE the laissez faire purist others are. (Admittedly, I'm fairly close.)

Posted by: Eeyore at August 05, 2022 12:21 PM (TgBWG)

136 It would be hilarious if raising corporate tax rates resulting in gutting a lot of HR and Diversity weenies.

If you listen to most companies, ass-fucking black trans lesbian disabled illegals is the most important thing they do. We'll see how that goes when things get tougher.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 05, 2022 12:21 PM (ZGrMX)

137 Tell me again why we are fighting to make sure Nukes CEO pays low taxes again. You can make the argument that taxing Nike hurts consumers. What is the argument against taxing the assholes who run Nike? Or Blackrock? Or Dicks? Or any of them.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 12:21 PM (OalnH)

138 Democrats will need all 50 of their votes -- plus Vice President Suzy Fartclam as a tie-breaking vote -- to pass this [Inflation Expansion Act] through budget reconciliation, assuming the parliamentarian permits it. Posted by: Ace

Finally ,La has been set up for success.

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 05, 2022 12:21 PM (FF+On)

139 If Sinema had held firm, Susan Collins or somebody else would have caved. Thats how this works. Its how its always worked.

Posted by: Good for the Gander at August 05, 2022 12:21 PM (n4QeF)

140 136 It would be hilarious if raising corporate tax rates resulting in gutting a lot of HR and Diversity weenies.

If you listen to most companies, ass-fucking black trans lesbian disabled illegals is the most important thing they do. We'll see how that goes when things get tougher.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 05, 2022 12:21 PM (ZGrMX)

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Raising interest rates will take care of some of this on its own.

"Shit...we have to be HOW profitable now?"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:21 PM (LvTSG)

141 @105

>>How is DU taking it that their precious BBB...

Eh, they'll emote and whine because they are insane ideologues.

But the bottom line is, on the long view, the Donks get what they want whether they are in or "out" of power.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 05, 2022 12:21 PM (wGdPE)

142 It is funny that all the "Maverick" Senators, whether Democrat or Republican, like Sinema, Manchin, or McCain always vote to advance leftist, progressive policies that will lead to the destruction of America.

The only surprise with the IRA is that they didn't try to attach an "assault" weapons ban to it using the 1000% tax on guns and ammo.

Shame on all of you who fell for the Sinema & Manchin shit earlier. A progressive communist never changes its spots.

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at August 05, 2022 12:22 PM (MFZ8i)

143 Democrats will need all 50 of their votes -- plus Vice President Suzy Fartclam as a tie-breaking vote -- to pass this through budget reconciliation, assuming the parliamentarian permits it.
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Is that true? Or can we expect some of our fine upstanding Republican senators to show bipartisanship. There are a number of suspects here.

Posted by: Eeyore at August 05, 2022 12:22 PM (TgBWG)

144 Obviously we are all hypocrites. Remember that Huuuge Infrastructure Bill President Trump signed?

You know! The one that was passed in Neveruary of Didn't Happen. That bill.

Posted by: rd at August 05, 2022 12:22 PM (Z32m1)

145 So the future will be a $100 Whopper?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 05, 2022 12:22 PM (0mqLi)

146 Wow, apparently author Eric Flint died last month.

First I've heard of it. I really am out of the loop for Sci-Fi/Fantasy authors. 's what I get for not writing anymore.

Anyway, he was a Socialist but a fair man. RIP.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 05, 2022 12:22 PM (XvPQV)

147 IRS already runs a special desk for people like Trump. Trump's team is on the pay as you go plan with the IRS reviewing everything that goes on continuously. The very rich get that scrutiny

because without them the government would run out of cash to pay it's ongoing bills.

The government hasn't relied on tax receipts for YEARS.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2022 12:22 PM (j+4+t)

148 Yes it will.

Posted by: Sponge
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Depends on whether you gots to have the latest Iphone which goes to elasticity of demand.

In a real world without static analysis, large companies have the ability to work the system in order to minimize taxes and they, in fact, have whole divisions set up to do so. For example, Apple can simply issue debt to fund new projects which results in a deduction versus using existing capital, and so on.

The rhetoric that corporations do not pay tax is simplistic and not actually situated to explain pricing behavior of a company absent a whole lot of other variables.

Posted by: whig at August 05, 2022 12:22 PM (CXr4y)

149 BTW, wasn't Bernie saying he wanted a payoff to vote for this too? I'd enjoy if the entire Dem caucus demanded special pet language and that sank it.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 05, 2022 12:22 PM (ZGrMX)

150 142 Shame on all of you who fell for the Sinema & Manchin shit earlier. A progressive communist never changes its spots.
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at August 05, 2022 12:22 PM (MFZ8i)

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Rand Paul is a real maverick.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:22 PM (LvTSG)

151 Kiyah @growingtotruth; 21h
My job just announced they are going to remove the term "master code/document" from our company due to our newest anti-racism policy

I am the only black person at my company and I accidentally laughed out loud when they said this

Oops 😅

[...] They said we can call it main or primary document/code
Posted by: andycanuck

I don't care what you say. I won't stop masturbating.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Summer of Our Discontent n at August 05, 2022 12:22 PM (FVME7)

152 In 2014 the climate change "scientists" said if radical changes to our fossil fuel economy weren't made immediately the Great Barrier Reef would suffer irreversible damage by 2030.

Yesterday it was reported that 2/3 of the Great Barrier Reef is recorded the highest level of coral cover in 40 years.

Shut up and go buy your golf cart.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2022 12:23 PM (ZLI7S)

153 There won't be any increased surveillance of the rich. The IRS increased scrutiny will be on us.

Posted by: torabora at August 05, 2022 12:17 PM (Y274z)

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Have they slipped in that earlier provision yet that ANY financial transaction -- or mere account with more than $600 in transactions in a year -- be reported to the IRS? [If not, #Soon comrades.]

And what could go wrong with 87,000 new IRS agents -- armed and with all that recently purchased ammo?

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 05, 2022 12:23 PM (TZivQ)

154 "Corporations merely pass their tax burden on to their customers or clients in the form of higher prices. So any higher taxes "on corporations" are not paid by them. They are paid by us."

But they are acting as more than non-political businesses ... they have become political machines, using our government against the general public. This makes them "people", but not where the stockholders have a voice.

Perhaps taxing them more gives smaller business a fighting chance. Shut downs slammed small business, delivered customers to BigBox and Online entities. Small Biz more often employs Americans, while BigCorp uses its leverage to keep the door to the China slave trade wide open. ...

Posted by: illiniwek at August 05, 2022 12:23 PM (Cus5s)

155 147 The government hasn't relied on tax receipts for YEARS.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 05, 2022 12:22 PM (j+4+t)

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Taxation is about molding society.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:23 PM (LvTSG)

156 120

National Review could use someone like you.

Come on dude don’t you get tired of this? And OK fine say you’re right and 200% of the cost of the tax is passed along. Fuck it. I’ll pay more if it means corporations have less power.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 12:23 PM (OalnH)

157 Ladies and Gentlemen, please! This isn't the hill to die on! Besides, we'll make sure plenty of the grift goes to our friends and donors, and we're in this together, right?

More importantly, don't be fooled by the large price tag! This is 730 billion BIDENFLATION bucks...that's, what, almost enough for a McDonald's combo meal back in 2018?

Posted by: GOPe at August 05, 2022 12:24 PM (JCZqz)

158 But the bottom line is, on the long view, the Donks get what they want whether they are in or "out" of power.

..

Tee hee!

Posted by: Gope Leadership at August 05, 2022 12:24 PM (9FBGz)

159 Only I don't believe that last part. I think the full $730 billion will be spent over the next several years, with a plan -- an IOU -- to retire $300 billion in debt in the last five years of the ten-year plan.

Which will never happen.

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Hey! That's my diet plan!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Summer of Our Discontent n at August 05, 2022 12:24 PM (FVME7)

160 Or a toll road/bridge to pay for it, and the day that they stop charging the toll never seems to arrive.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2022 12:13 PM (Ivdso)

Yep. Bastards.
Posted by: PA Turnpike Commission at August 05, 2022 12:16 PM (89T5c)

The bridge to Pensacola Beach was built with bond money that mandated a 35 cent toll to pay it off. After decades the bonds were finally paid off and the mandate was mooted. So they raised the toll to $1.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 05, 2022 12:24 PM (PY/t0)

161 143 Democrats will need all 50 of their votes -- plus Vice President Suzy Fartclam as a tie-breaking vote -- to pass this through budget reconciliation, assuming the parliamentarian permits it.
_______

Is that true? Or can we expect some of our fine upstanding Republican senators to show bipartisanship. There are a number of suspects here.
Posted by: Eeyore at August 05, 2022 12:22 PM (TgBWG)

You are delusional if you think Romney, Collins, or Murkowski don't cross the aisle in a show of bipartisanship.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 05, 2022 12:24 PM (N39Ws)

162 Posted by: Elric Blade
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Elric, that is not really true as a matter of empirical data or theory. It depends on whether the demand for the corporation's goods are elastic or not and whether substitutes exist. A company with elastic demand for its services has a hard time passing on extra costs--so, the costs are eaten internally via less money to equity holders and to workers. Usually the latter eats the costs.

Always be careful of using rhetoric (corporations do not pay taxes) versus the actual situation. It depends, like most other things, on the situation.
Posted by: whig at August 05, 2022 12:16 PM (CXr4y)
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Elasticity of demand is irrelevant here because as I understand the proposed taxes, they are across-the-board increases in corporate taxes. This isn't a situation where an increase in costs (of any type) on the corp can't be passed onto the consumer because the consumer might have other options. This is more like inflation. As we have seen, when inflation rises it's the consumer that pays it.

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 05, 2022 12:24 PM (iFTx/)

163 Uncle Fester Kelly (D-AZ) is all in on this bill that will impact small businesses in AZ. Guess who owns many small businesses in AZ, Yup, Hispanics. This fucking douchebag is toast in November.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 05, 2022 12:24 PM (m7R0k)

164 It will be a miracle if we survive this calculated, cold-blooded attempt to murder America.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 05, 2022 12:24 PM (H8QX8)

165 "Is it just me, or does anyone else find your enthusiasm for protecting corporations -- which not only paid to "fortify the election," but then also bankrolled the riots and arsons and murders of BLM -- falling to zero?"

Plus it's a stupid political ploy the GOP always falls for. The Dems put it in and watch the conservative moron's trip over themselves defending low corporate tax rates.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 05, 2022 12:24 PM (qH6FZ)

166 It's war in Gaza.

A few days ago, the Israelis arrested the head of Palestinian Islamic Jihad in the West Bank (PIJ is a subsidiary of Iran).

PIJ decided that it was going to attack Israeli border communities next to Gaza in retaliation, despite efforts by the Egyptians to talk them out of it, so Israel today has hit the teams preparing to attack Israel, along with a senior PIJ commander in Gaza.

Expect a denunciation by Rashida Tlaib in three, two, one...

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 05, 2022 12:25 PM (I2/tG)

167 154 "Corporations merely pass their tax burden on to their customers or clients in the form of higher prices. So any higher taxes "on corporations" are not paid by them. They are paid by us."

But they are acting as more than non-political businesses ... they have become political machines, using our government against the general public. This makes them "people", but not where the stockholders have a voice.

Perhaps taxing them more gives smaller business a fighting chance. Shut downs slammed small business, delivered customers to BigBox and Online entities. Small Biz more often employs Americans, while BigCorp uses its leverage to keep the door to the China slave trade wide open. ...
Posted by: illiniwek at August 05, 2022 12:23 PM (Cus5s)

Small businesses pay corporate taxes too. Unless they're an income passthrough which pays normal income taxes.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 05, 2022 12:25 PM (b2nrj)

168 It would be hilarious if raising corporate tax rates resulting in gutting a lot of HR and Diversity weenies.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile
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It does put more pressure on a company to meet financial goals. How they choose to do that depends on whether their costs are fixed.

Posted by: whig at August 05, 2022 12:25 PM (CXr4y)

169 "Vice President Suzy Fartclam," huh? Stolen!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 05, 2022 12:25 PM (txdEq)

170 Taxation is about molding society.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:23 PM (LvTSG)

Does mold pair nicely with bugs?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2022 12:25 PM (rT2ds)

171 So the future will be a $100 Whopper?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 05, 2022 12:22 PM (0mqLi)

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Made entirely from crickets.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 05, 2022 12:25 PM (TZivQ)

172 163 Uncle Fester Kelly (D-AZ) is all in on this bill that will impact small businesses in AZ. Guess who owns many small businesses in AZ, Yup, Hispanics. This fucking douchebag is toast in November.
Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 05, 2022 12:24 PM (m7R0k)

Unfortunately the "media" won't be mentioning any of this...

Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2022 12:25 PM (bs+z0)

173 Just what we need 80 thousand more IRS agents.. Armed IRS agents
Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2022 12:07 PM (bs+z0)

Well you don't think people are going to give up those 401's easily do you?

Posted by: Diogenes at August 05, 2022 12:26 PM (anj39)

174 87,000 new IRS agents going after us. I hope this hurts every single Democrat senator running for reelection.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 05, 2022 12:26 PM (NpAcC)

175 Cornyn was censored by a Texas Republican group. We need more of this.

Posted by: LASue at August 05, 2022 12:26 PM (Ed8Zd)

176 -------

Made entirely from crickets.
Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, it gets worse here every day at August 05, 2022 12:25 PM (TZivQ)

and that plant that makes everything taste like meat.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:26 PM (Zz0t1)

177 145 So the future will be a $100 Whopper?
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 05, 2022 12:22 PM (0mqLi)

And when you get it, you'll be wondering where the beef is.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 05, 2022 12:26 PM (N39Ws)

178 Ah the "Blue Dog Democrat" fallacy.

Just remember, no matter how much that blue dog barks and growls, a little treat from its master will have it curling up at its master's feet in the end.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at August 05, 2022 12:27 PM (HJcWr)

179 175 Cornyn was censored by a Texas Republican group. We need more of this.
Posted by: LASue at August 05, 2022 12:26 PM (Ed8Zd)

=========

"You're a mob, and I don't need to listen to you!"
-John Cornyn

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:27 PM (LvTSG)

180 Traditionally governments have tried to avoid recessions on the one hand and hyperinflation on the other.

But Biden's so awesome he's given us BOTH at the same time...which I didn't even think was possible.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 05, 2022 12:20 PM (ESjRY)

Germany and Western Europe are doing their part to make this a DEPRESSION. Just wait until this Winter when their economies collapse as most production is shutdown as people are freezing in the dark without Russian Gas

Posted by: rd at August 05, 2022 12:27 PM (Z32m1)

181 We need to start a pool on what month inflation hits double digits. I am going with October.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 05, 2022 12:27 PM (bVYXr)

182 Plus it's a stupid political ploy the GOP always falls for. The Dems put it in and watch the conservative moron's trip over themselves defending low corporate tax rates.
Posted by: lowandslow at August 05, 2022 12:24 PM (qH6FZ)

—-

If Nike pays one more dollar in taxes the terrorists will have won.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 12:27 PM (OalnH)

183 I made a really easy call when I said a while back that Manchin and Sinema would cave. They have no principles.

Posted by: SteveF at August 05, 2022 12:27 PM (uiiqX)

184 161 Collins will get some EPA relief on a stinkin' paper mill, Murkowski will get a little airport on the Tundra named after her, and Mitt won't get jack shit for Utah because, why should he.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 05, 2022 12:27 PM (lz5hY)

185 Or a toll road/bridge to pay for it, and the day that they stop charging the toll never seems to arrive.

They actually stopped charging tolls on the bridge crossing the Columbia River in Astoria, Oregon when the bonds were paid off.

What were they thinking?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 05, 2022 12:28 PM (I2/tG)

186 >>Unfortunately the "media" won't be mentioning any of this...

The media did everything in their power to take down Masters and Lake in the primary. They won. A more and more Hispanics crossed over to vote for them.

The media doesn't have the power they used to have.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2022 12:28 PM (ZLI7S)

187
Germany and Western Europe are doing their part to make this a DEPRESSION. Just wait until this Winter when their economies collapse as most production is shutdown as people are freezing in the dark without Russian Gas
Posted by: rd at August 05, 2022 12:27 PM (Z32m1)

Whoever could've predicted this.....

- - Donald J. Trump

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:28 PM (Zz0t1)

188 Small businesses pay corporate taxes too. Unless they're an income passthrough which pays normal income taxes.

exactly. this will force small businesses to close, or be acquired, it will result in more large businesses and fewer small ones who can't handle the new tax well.

which is what FedGov wants, fewer, larger businesses, that they can then control more easily.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 05, 2022 12:28 PM (w0NJk)

189 Cornyn was censored by a Texas Republican group. We need more of this.

I'll cry myself to sleep in my giant pile of lobbyist money

Posted by: John Cornyn at August 05, 2022 12:28 PM (j5Tg0)

190 124 Cherry 2000 or a 33-S
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 05, 2022 12:19 PM (0mqLi)

Cherry 2000 is easier to live with. Just careful with the soapy water.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at August 05, 2022 12:28 PM (XvPQV)

191 No credible economist has said this will reduce inflation. In fact it will exacerbate inflation. It has zero impact on debt until 6 years from now, and even that is minimal. Any tax increase will be passed on to consumers at the worst possible time. The lower end of the income ladder will take it in the shorts. That's before we get to a doubling of IRS agents focused on enforcement. You know their concentration will be focused on people who can't afford to defend themselves in an audit. Thank Manchin and Sienna.

Good news is that Manchin's office is getting crushed with calls against this. Ditto in-state feedback from his constituents in West Virginia. Bad news is it won't matter. The Democrat Party is a death cult, and only the cults desires matter, nobody else. Perhaps people will finally understand there isn't one good Democrat left...

Posted by: Marcus T at August 05, 2022 12:28 PM (QG3cQ)

192 You are delusional if you think Romney, Collins, or Murkowski don't cross the aisle in a show of bipartisanship.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 05, 2022 12:24 PM (N39Ws)

If they’re not needed, they probably won’t. And then make a stance about how brave they are. But if some dem gets the monkeypox, one of those 3 is definitely on deck for a show if bipartisanship .

Posted by: LASue at August 05, 2022 12:28 PM (Ed8Zd)

193 Get back to your kitchen table, people, and marvel at the splendor of our ruling class! They're saving the world! Each and every one of them is saving the world in the next 25 years before they die! Rejoice!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 05, 2022 12:28 PM (WHt4f)

194 87,000 new IRS agents going after us. I hope this hurts every single Democrat senator running for reelection.
Posted by: redridinghood
___

It won't.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at August 05, 2022 12:28 PM (SAphm)

195 You know, reading all of the economic-analysis comments here reminds me of that old saw that all of the economists in the world laid end-to-end would not reach a conclusion.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2022 12:28 PM (oi8Dv)

196 Manchin will make sense once he announces that he's not running for re-election.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:28 PM (LvTSG)

197 It's not their own money, see?

Posted by: Eromero at August 05, 2022 12:29 PM (gktX6)

198 BTW, it was hilarious to watch Manchin literally sweating in one of his latest interview. Everybody has Google, and they know this is a complete sellout of the American people.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 05, 2022 12:29 PM (QG3cQ)

199 156 120

National Review could use someone like you.

Come on dude don’t you get tired of this? And OK fine say you’re right and 200% of the cost of the tax is passed along. Fuck it. I’ll pay more if it means corporations have less power.
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 12:23 PM (OalnH)

Corporate tax rates are an investment spending lever. Income tax rates are a labor supply lever. It's not complicated and independent of what you hope for or wish to do, it's how it works.

Increasing capital gains tax rates or corporate tax rates is an easy way to push for recession, correspondingly lowering them is an easy way to juice the economy.

It can be an acceptable outcome but don't pretend it has no consequences.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 05, 2022 12:29 PM (b2nrj)

200 You're a mob, and I don't need to listen to you!"
-John Cornyn
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz

That will go in my next email to him.

Posted by: LASue at August 05, 2022 12:30 PM (Ed8Zd)

201 Germany and Western Europe are doing their part to make this a DEPRESSION. Just wait until this Winter when their economies collapse as most production is shutdown as people are freezing in the dark without Russian Gas

Posted by: rd at August 05, 2022 12:27 PM

If the German economy collapses Europe is doomed. They generate over a third of the industrial output for the entire EU and no other country comes even close to their output.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 05, 2022 12:30 PM (bVYXr)

202 The candidates you're about to empower will vote to fully fund the IRS, DOJ, Dept of Ed...

Next year when they control Congress.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at August 05, 2022 12:30 PM (9FBGz)

203 who told sid he could leave the gloryhole? that roaring econony means there's dicks stacked six, seven deep in line

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at August 05, 2022 12:30 PM (dG/j3)

204 195 You know, reading all of the economic-analysis comments here reminds me of that old saw that all of the economists in the world laid end-to-end would not reach a conclusion.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2022 12:28 PM (oi8Dv)

Some things are simple. Like price controls. Or tax what you want less of.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 05, 2022 12:30 PM (b2nrj)

205 Let the Republic fall.
Democrats and Republicans, as well as their lapdog police, are both, the enemies of freedom and the people.... In every instance.

Posted by: My Bologna Has A First Name at August 05, 2022 12:30 PM (m4GF3)

206 If , and it's a big if, we take back the House and Senate can we do anything to get rid of this disastrous "bill." ?

Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2022 12:31 PM (bs+z0)

207 I’ll pay more if it means corporations have less power.

in fact, the OPPOSITE of what you hope for will happen

and that's by design

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 05, 2022 12:31 PM (w0NJk)

208 I’m starting to think Dems hold the house this year. They are snookering the GOP on every front.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 12:31 PM (OalnH)

209 The Daily Daddario has turned her back on federal spending:

https://tinyurl.com/y7z5eatu

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:31 PM (LvTSG)

210 On the good news front President Shit My Pants tested positive for the China virus again today.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2022 12:31 PM (ZLI7S)

211 87,000 new IRS agents going after us. I hope this hurts every single Democrat senator running for reelection.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 05, 2022 12:26 PM (NpAcC)
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It won't. But that number is truly frightening indeed. Here's this, from the IRS' own documents:
In FY 2021, the IRS used 78,661 full-time equivalent (FTE) positions in conducting its work, a decrease of 12.9 percent since FY 2012.

They are more than doubling the IRS workforce, and it will be the largest on record. Up by about 110% since last year and up by 83% from the prior peak (I am assuming it was a peak) in 2012, when the agency had around 90,311 FTEs.

More. Than. Doubling. That ain't to go after rich folks and corporations, that's to go after *you.*

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2022 12:31 PM (WWh8n)

212 Some things are simple. Like price controls. Or tax what you want less of.

That settles it. I want less big corporations.

Posted by: Good for the Gander at August 05, 2022 12:31 PM (n4QeF)

213 201 Germany and Western Europe are doing their part to make this a DEPRESSION. Just wait until this Winter when their economies collapse as most production is shutdown as people are freezing in the dark without Russian Gas

Posted by: rd at August 05, 2022 12:27 PM

If the German economy collapses Europe is doomed. They generate over a third of the industrial output for the entire EU and no other country comes even close to their output.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 05, 2022 12:30 PM (bVYXr)

Where's the popcorn?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 05, 2022 12:31 PM (N39Ws)

214 The only solace I can take in this is knowing that when the Red Wave crashes in in November, the fiscally conservative GOP will swoop in like an army of budget hawks, slaying reckless government spending wherever it may be found.

Mitch McConnell and Kevin McCarthy will charge headlong into the battle, shields on their backs and axes wielded, hacking away like Nordic berserkers at government expenditure.

No federal department will be safe and no military contractor spared. They will usher in a New Age, an age of balanced budgets and massive debt reduction. A veritable financial Renaissance!

Now who will join me in storming the polls to install our new GOP majority screaming "Freedom! Out ye damn Democrats! The Brandon is dead! long live the GOPe!"

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 05, 2022 12:32 PM (VUspP)

215 Friends, we object *strenuously* to the latest attempt by Biden and Company to steal the America of baseball, apple pie, and good old fashioned values right from under your feet, by passing unconstitutional spending bills in the dark of night.

Will you help us stop Duly and Fairly Elected President Biden and his Respectable and Honorable Vice President Kamala Harris and their Liberal Agenda before it's too late?

Posted by: The GOP - Donate Today! at August 05, 2022 12:32 PM (ZiV6b)

216 Manchin will make sense once he announces that he's not running for re-election.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:28 PM

He is going to run in the primary in 2024 for POTUS, that's why he is doing this. His senate term isn't up until 2026.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 05, 2022 12:32 PM (bVYXr)

217 I imagine the latest meeting with Boots Sinema went something like: we’ve got the votes, even without you. So either sign on and get a piece of the pie or don’t and we cut you off at your thigh highs. Choose.

Posted by: LASue at August 05, 2022 12:32 PM (Ed8Zd)

218
I don't know why we're doing favors for people who hate us. Fuck them to hell. I don't care if the whole Fortune 500 winds up paying 70% corporate tax rates.

Corporations don't pay taxes. They never have. Their customers pay taxes. The corporation is simply the middleman.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 05, 2022 12:32 PM (n+4am)

219 "My job just announced they are going to remove the term "master code/document" from our company due to our newest anti-racism policy"

When do they announce the Emancipation Proclamation, ie, You're "free" ie. fired?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2022 12:32 PM (snPsk)

220 Some things are simple. Like price controls. Or tax what you want less of.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 05, 2022 12:30 PM (b2nrj)

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Exactly. Sure we're glossing over some tiny nuance, but 99% of the time corporations raise prices when their costs (taxes) increase.

It may be that the tax increase is a good policy decision or a bad one, but the consequence will be increased prices.

Posted by: 496 at August 05, 2022 12:33 PM (VJsqe)

221 210 On the good news front President Shit My Pants tested positive for the China virus again today.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2022 12:31 PM (ZLI7S)

Gee, I can remember when PSMP stood in front of a camera and mocked Trump because PSMP "recovered" quicker.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 05, 2022 12:33 PM (N39Ws)

222 Small businesses pay corporate taxes too. Unless they're an income passthrough which pays normal income taxes.
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Pass-through corporations pay lots of corporate taxes.

The principal real tax code difference is only in income tax, because company income is taxed to the individual directly (as opposed to a company level tax). But even there, different adjustments are made to limit the tax benefit.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 05, 2022 12:33 PM (1QyFB)

223 Meh. I don't care about this one whit. The GOP has shown it's not any more responsible spending-wise. So I'm not going to pretend this is some sort of apocalyptic event. We stopped being serious about the budget a long time ago. Fuck it.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 05, 2022 12:33 PM (KFhLj)

224 Why is the budgeting process for the largest entity in the history of earth decided based on the today's employment numbers or tomorrow's CPI numbers? Why is there no plan?

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at August 05, 2022 12:33 PM (vN+oL)

225 204 An economist is somebody lacking the bubbling personality to be a CPA.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 05, 2022 12:33 PM (lz5hY)

226 They are snookering the GOP on every front.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 12:31 PM (OalnH)

It's not being snookered if you like it.

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2022 12:33 PM (ZiV6b)

227 Gee, I can remember when PSMP stood in front of a camera and mocked Trump because PSMP "recovered" quicker.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 05, 2022 12:33 PM (N39Ws)

LOL.. God does have a sense of humor

Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2022 12:33 PM (bs+z0)

228 If , and it's a big if, we take back the House and Senate can we do anything to get rid of this disastrous "bill." ?
Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2022 12:31 PM (bs+z0)

Defunding all federal agencies. But that's just a form of political fantasizing, we all know it won't happen.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 05, 2022 12:33 PM (qH6FZ)

229 On the good news front President Shit My Pants tested positive for the China virus again today.

If you just get the jab you can't get COVID

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:33 PM (ESjRY)

230 This bikini brunette knows that this means more taxes, more inflation and more misery because that's what it *always* means:
https://is.gd/pewXpz

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2022 12:34 PM (WWh8n)

231 But Biden's so awesome he's given us BOTH at the same time...which I didn't even think was possible.

"Oh trust me it can be done"
--Jimmy Carter's sweater

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2022 12:34 PM (Ivdso)

232 Mylan Labs Manchin is their suicide bomber on this run.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 05, 2022 12:34 PM (89T5c)

233
It can be an acceptable outcome but don't pretend it has no consequences.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 05, 2022 12:29 PM (b2nrj)

The corp tax rate in the 80s was double what it is today. Things somehow managed to be Ok on the economic front. In fact not just ok but kick ass awesome.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 12:34 PM (OalnH)

234 On the good news front President Shit My Pants tested positive for the China virus again today.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2022 12:31 PM (ZLI7S)

You'll have to refresh my memory...but IIRC this pResident based all his jab mandates on the statement that :THE VACCINE WILL END COVID-19

and all you anti-jabbers ARE KILLERS!

Posted by: kallisto at August 05, 2022 12:34 PM (dCxaZ)

235 229 On the good news front President Shit My Pants tested positive for the China virus again today.

If you just get the jab you can't get COVID
Posted by: Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:33 PM (ESjRY)

What happened to "The pandemic of the Unvaccinated. " ?

Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2022 12:34 PM (bs+z0)

236 87,000 new IRS agents going after us. I hope this hurts every single Democrat senator running for reelection.
Posted by: redridinghood

How many rounds, from that giant ammo stockpile the IRS has been building for years, does that work out per agent? Nothing to see here at all, nope, just keep moving along.

Posted by: Lost In Space at August 05, 2022 12:34 PM (FF+On)

237 "retire $300 billion in debt in the last five years of the ten-year plan"

Assuming they actually did that rather than buy bonds with it... that's 300 billion out of ~30 trillion stated debt *plus* over 100 trillion in unfunded liabilities.

So about 0.2% And about 8% of what we add to the total each year. But we'll be subjected to months of the media screaming about how the Depends Administration is "finally reducing the national debt!" while we wipe down our $10 cans of Sphaghetti-O's so we don't catch dickin' pox.

Fuck all of these people and their enablers. A divorce is best, but if we can't swing that then we're going to be like that person who realizes they can probably get away with 4-5 years in the slammer if they just off their spouse.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at August 05, 2022 12:35 PM (qFRAe)

238 Dave Wasserman
@Redistrict

1h
Fact: in Michigan, Republicans nominated three Black congressional candidates. Democrats? Zero. For the first time in 68 years, Detroit won't have a Black member of Congress.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 05, 2022 12:35 PM (NpAcC)

239 226 They are snookering the GOP on every front.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 12:31 PM (OalnH)

It's not being snookered if you like it.
Posted by: ... at August 05, 2022 12:33 PM (ZiV6b)
__________________________

This. The GOP gets its share of graft and bribes from all these big-spending bills. The GOP only pretends to oppose them.

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 05, 2022 12:35 PM (iFTx/)

240 "The media doesn't have the power they used to have.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2022 12:28 PM (ZLI7S)"

Agree and Masters is no dummy. He's already in this and focused on economic issues and the border. I don't know how Kelly gets out from underneath that pile.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 05, 2022 12:35 PM (QG3cQ)

241 If , and it's a big if, we take back the House and Senate can we do anything to get rid of this disastrous "bill." ?
Posted by: It's me donna
________________________

No chance there'd be enough votes to override a veto. And taking back the Senate is maybe a 55/45 proposition at this point. At best.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at August 05, 2022 12:35 PM (es0Dj)

242 That settles it. I want less big corporations.
Posted by: Good for the Gander at August 05, 2022 12:31 PM (n4QeF)
++++
But they don't. If they did, they'd limit the tax to corporations with more than $100m in revenues or somesuch.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2022 12:35 PM (WWh8n)

243 Manchin will be reelected to his seat in 2024 as sure as Biden sniffs and gropes little girls. No chess explanation needed.

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2022 12:35 PM (ZiV6b)

244 If , and it's a big if, we take back the House and Senate can we do anything to get rid of this disastrous "bill." ?

If the GOP takes congress, yes they could simply reverse the bill, but you and I and everyone else knows there's no way in hell that happens. We cannot even get them to do any real cuts, just reductions in the amount of increase.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2022 12:35 PM (Ivdso)

245 You're going to be riding bicycles and liking it.

In the heat, in the cold.
When you fall off there's Obamacare.
And they'll be by to steal your bicycle.

All of that is true.

Posted by: torabora at August 05, 2022 12:35 PM (Y274z)

246 Does this bill include the Cow Fart Taxes?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 05, 2022 12:35 PM (llON8)

247 We were promised a nude Sinema. Haz sad.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 05, 2022 12:35 PM (68G8/)

248 209 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:31 PM (LvTSG)
==================
Symantec really hated that link TJM. Any other sites available? I always look forward to DD.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 05, 2022 12:36 PM (1QyFB)

249 On the good news front President Shit My Pants tested positive for the China virus again today.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2022 12:31 PM (ZLI7S)

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Whatever doesn't kill me only makes me stronger!

- Covid

Posted by: 496 at August 05, 2022 12:36 PM (VJsqe)

250 Germany and Western Europe are doing their part to make this a DEPRESSION. Just wait until this Winter when their economies collapse as most production is shutdown as people are freezing in the dark without Russian Gas

In my fantasies, those smug little douches who smirked and sneered at Trump at the UN when he warned them not to rely on Russian gas will spend the winter naked in a cage in the town square.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2022 12:36 PM (/NCI4)

251 210 On the good news front President Shit My Pants tested positive for the China virus again today.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2022 12:31 PM (ZLI7S)
_________

Why aren't the media all over this, praising his heroism by catching it so others don't? I guess it just shows how right wing they are.

Would anyone put making that claim past Brandon?

Posted by: Eeyore at August 05, 2022 12:36 PM (TgBWG)

252 But they don't. If they did, they'd limit the tax to corporations with more than $100m in revenues or somesuch.

exactly

the fact that they aren't doing this shows it for what it is - a blow to small business

btw some can raise prices but some (services mostly) won't be able to really. they will reduce size (downsize) or fail.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 05, 2022 12:36 PM (w0NJk)

253 212 "Some things are simple. Like price controls. Or tax what you want less of."

That settles it. I want less big corporations.
Posted by: Good for the Gander at August 05, 2022 12:31 PM (n4QeF)

Then you'd implement some sort of size based tax (headcount, revenue, things like that). Straightforward enough.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 05, 2022 12:36 PM (b2nrj)

254 Red Wave kiss my MAGA ass

Posted by: Beavis at August 05, 2022 12:36 PM (YTBIQ)

255 No credible economist has said this will reduce inflation. In fact it will exacerbate inflation.

Not true. A whole bunch of famous economists, including a number of Nobel Prize winners, signed a letter explaining what a wonderful thing this bill is, and that passing the bill would definitely reduce inflation. I believe that Biden has already referred to this letter.

None of the people signing the letter actually believe this, of course, but the economics profession has been corrupted, along with most other institutions. They're Democratic Party operatives, and they know how to follow orders.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 05, 2022 12:36 PM (I2/tG)

256 Let's just say back of the envelope these 87000 new hires are paid $70k / year. That's about $6 billion for just their wages in the first year alone. Factor in whatever health care, reimbursements, bonuses, yadda yadda yadda.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2022 12:37 PM (/EuRN)

257 241 If , and it's a big if, we take back the House and Senate can we do anything to get rid of this disastrous "bill." ?
Posted by: It's me donna

==========

The best we can hope from a GOP controlled Congress next year is stasis and obstruction. We're going to get a lot of Twitchy links of GOP senators yelling at low-level, unfiraeable lackeys, and, hopefully, not much legislation. The media will say "This is the least productive Congress ever and the people will take out their anger on Republicans over this."

Any actual, positive action will happen at the state level, like if Lake and Masters win their races in AZ.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:37 PM (LvTSG)

258 "It will make our tax system more fair by making corporations pay a minimum tax," he said.
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So instead of paying their fair share, they will only pay a minimum.

Posted by: Ciampino - what's the minimum tax? at August 05, 2022 12:37 PM (qfLjt)

259 It can be an acceptable outcome but don't pretend it has no consequences.

I've been reliably informed that my political enemies are untouchable, and every action to hurt them will have the opposite effect. I finally see four lights now. The only acceptable action is no action at all.

Posted by: Good for the Gander at August 05, 2022 12:37 PM (n4QeF)

260 Dem voters are the rich and poor. They wish to put the middle class in those groups.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 05, 2022 12:37 PM (44ww/)

261 When Apple has $250 billion in the bank I’m kinda thinking an extra couple of percentage points in taxes isn’t going to make the iPhone more expensive.
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 12:16 PM (OalnH)
Yes it will.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:18 PM (Zz0t1)

The Boys and Girls in the Apple C-Suite want to double their stock options, take home pay, and triple their benefits package. Of course prices will go up.

Posted by: rd at August 05, 2022 12:37 PM (Z32m1)

262 Driving into Philadelphia the other day I saw a billboard on I95 pleading for a big new tax on meat. To save the earf, donchaknow.

Fucking nuts, these people are.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 05, 2022 12:37 PM (1QyFB)

263 Is there context for the sidebar's
"There will be no Establishment Restoration, c*cks."
?
Is it end zone taunting after Kari Lake's win?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 05, 2022 12:37 PM (EGSGm)

264 I suppose its possible but I have yet to hear of a single person who refused the "vaccine" getting the Wuhan Flu again. Not one. But many, many people who got the shot, yes more than once.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2022 12:38 PM (Ivdso)

265 @214

>>November, the fiscally conservative GOP will swoop in like an army of budget hawks, slaying reckless government spending wherever it may be found.

** BZZPPPT Record Skips off phonograph

** Narrator Comes to Mic.

Narrator: The GOP has controlled the power of The Purse for 20 of the last 28 years.

Narrator: And now back to K-Tel's Sound of the 70's.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 05, 2022 12:38 PM (wGdPE)

266 The Senate Democrats will use the 60 vote rule against any attempt to reverse this monster next year.

This thing is a shell game. They're winning.

Posted by: torabora at August 05, 2022 12:38 PM (Y274z)

267 "How many rounds, from that giant ammo stockpile the IRS has been building for years, does that work out per agent? Nothing to see here at all, nope, just keep moving along.
Posted by: Lost In Space at August 05, 2022 12:34 PM (FF+On)"

It's actually only like 90 per person. No wonder they're buying more.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at August 05, 2022 12:38 PM (qFRAe)

268 260 Dem voters are the rich and poor. They wish to put the middle class in those groups.

well, only the one tho, really. they don't want anymore rich people to junk up the country club

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 05, 2022 12:38 PM (w0NJk)

269 What is the argument against taxing the assholes who run Nike? Or Blackrock? Or Dicks? Or any of them.
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 12:21 PM (OalnH)

Small businesses are typically set up as Chapter S corporations.

Essentially any income at the bottom is deemed to have been earned by the owner. Sure, you pay yourself $20]k per year via payroll.

But if your company had a net income of 500k on the P&L. That 500k is taxed at individual rates. So your tax bill is actually on 700k. Much less money to reinvest.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 05, 2022 12:38 PM (NW9xb)

270 I thought the Congress was on recess. They haven't gone yet, or this will be their first big vote when they come back?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2022 12:38 PM (snPsk)

271 Is there context for the sidebar's
"There will be no Establishment Restoration, c*cks."
?
Is it end zone taunting after Kari Lake's win?
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 05, 2022 12:37 PM (EGSGm)

Site's been hacked.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:38 PM (Zz0t1)

272 I don't get it.

I didn't get the mRna jab, but all you Morons are still here.

the pResident told me I was a killer, you should all be dead

Posted by: kallisto at August 05, 2022 12:38 PM (dCxaZ)

273 >>> 256 Let's just say back of the envelope these 87000 new hires are paid $70k / year. That's about $6 billion for just their wages in the first year alone. Factor in whatever health care, reimbursements, bonuses, yadda yadda yadda.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2022 12:37 PM (/EuRN)

Conversely, we would have huge and luxurious savings were we to drastically reduce the number of feralgov employees. (Yes, I know....)

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 05, 2022 12:38 PM (llON8)

274 248 209 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:31 PM (LvTSG)
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Symantec really hated that link TJM. Any other sites available? I always look forward to DD.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 05, 2022 12:36 PM (1QyFB)

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https://tinyurl.com/5cydddce

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:39 PM (LvTSG)

275 244 If , and it's a big if, we take back the House and Senate can we do anything to get rid of this disastrous "bill." ?

If the GOP takes congress, yes they could simply reverse the bill, but you and I and everyone else knows there's no way in hell that happens. We cannot even get them to do any real cuts, just reductions in the amount of increase.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2022 12:35 PM (Ivdso)
_______________________________

Even in Fantasy Land where the GOP did that, Biden would just veto the bill. So we'd need a GOP Congress and a GOP president. That's not Fantasy Land. That's Delusional Land.

Posted by: Elric Blade at August 05, 2022 12:39 PM (iFTx/)

276 The Boys and Girls in the Apple C-Suite want to double their stock options, take home pay, and triple their benefits package. Of course prices will go up.

Apple is fascinating to watch. They no longer are innovative or even cool, but they keep raising the prices on their products. Its like a game to see how high they can get that I Phone with yet another camera on it to go before their mindless zombie hordes stop buying it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2022 12:39 PM (Ivdso)

277 I suppose its possible but I have yet to hear of a single person who refused the "vaccine" getting the Wuhan Flu again. Not one. But many, many people who got the shot, yes more than once.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2022 12:38 PM

Both the wife and I got the initial jab and both of us got coivd about 8 months after getting the shot. Not gonna be any "boosters" for us.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at August 05, 2022 12:39 PM (bVYXr)

278 270 I thought the Congress was on recess. They haven't gone yet, or this will be their first big vote when they come back?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2022 12:38 PM (snPsk)

I believe the vote will be tomorrow

Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2022 12:39 PM (bs+z0)

279 There's a whole lot of wishcasting and plain lashing out without a cause/effect model here. Corporations' astonishing embrace of racist-totalitarian nonsense reflects a much broader social civil society collapse, it's a result, not an originating force. "Punishing" them will have zero effect on the targeted pathology, and as Red Turban explains, will have negative effects on the economy, for everyone.

There's no substitute for a society and electorate that has a clue, actually pays attention and understands basic issues, and acts responsibly including at the ballot box. We don't have anything close to that.

Oh, the buttons voters can push generally aren't connected to anything any more, because lack of election integrity, comically perfidious GOP, collapsed institutions like the judiciary? Absolutely, up to a point. But factoring all these things in, there's been nothing approaching an actual popular awakening or embrace of common sense, apart from "localized outbreaks" (like FL, etc). We're getting the degradation that, overall and considering "we" is the whole population, we're willing to tolerate.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 05, 2022 12:39 PM (OTzUX)

280 >dickin' pox.

lol

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 05, 2022 12:39 PM (44ww/)

281 The problem is going to be a GOP senate if McConnell is in control. McCarthy is already realizing the incoming class ain't gonna go for the old ways of doing things. You can see that already in some of the agenda items and the fact he's listening to people like Newt. In the senate, McConnell will probably lose a few deep state members. But you have people like Collins and Romney who are essentially Democrats. Yea hat won't bode well for anything material.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 05, 2022 12:40 PM (QG3cQ)

282 On the good news front President Shit My Pants tested positive for the China virus again today.

Posted by: JackStraw

Isn't this about the 10th time he tested positive? It's beginning to sound more like a terminal wasting disease. You know, like the arsenic poisoning which was rumored to have slowly killed Napoleon. It would certainly be convenient for the Dems, especially if Kamala comes down with the same malady.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2022 12:40 PM (/NCI4)

283 I wonder how the Paolo feels about that proposed tax hike on meat.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2022 12:40 PM (oi8Dv)

284 There's ALWAYS time for sodomy and Godzilla.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022

LOL

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 05, 2022 12:40 PM (txdEq)

285
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https://tinyurl.com/5cydddce
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:39 PM (LvTSG)

I have a sudden craving for cottage cheese. And I don't like cottage cheese.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:40 PM (Zz0t1)

286 233
It can be an acceptable outcome but don't pretend it has no consequences.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 05, 2022 12:29 PM (b2nrj)

The corp tax rate in the 80s was double what it is today. Things somehow managed to be Ok on the economic front. In fact not just ok but kick ass awesome.
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 12:34 PM (OalnH)

The change in rates is more of a "shock event", as people were investing based on old assumptions and suddenly assets change in value substantially. The effects on long-term growth are fairly modest by comparison.

You own stock right, what do you suppose happens if the capital gains rate goes to 50%? Existing investors kind of get screwed and new investors don't really have a changed experience.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 05, 2022 12:40 PM (b2nrj)

287 So basically a trillion dollars.

Posted by: Max Power at August 05, 2022 12:40 PM (k7+BO)

288 @218 IllTemperedCur-I tell leftist a-holes this all the time that bitch about corporations not being taxed enough and especially bitching about obscene profits. Put a percentage number on what you feel is an acceptable profit margin. How much is too much/obscene? Same with CEO salaries/bonuses. Please give me a number and this Ultra MAGA/Conservative will endorse and stand behind whatever number you clowns come up with, in fact YOUR number might be too low for me. Watch their heads explode.

Posted by: JROD at August 05, 2022 12:41 PM (0jZnq)

289 bottom is deemed to have been earned by the owner. Sure, you pay yourself $20]k per year via payroll.

But if your company had a net income of 500k on the P&L. That 500k is taxed at individual rates. So your tax bill is actually on 700k. Much less money to reinvest.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at August 05, 2022 12:38 PM (NW9xb)

Nikes ceo is an employee and gets a salary and RSUs. What you said has no application to him. And this is exactly my point. Fighting to make sure people who want you dead pay less in taxes based on some nonsense about less to reinvest.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 12:41 PM (OalnH)

290 #264

Well dead vax deniers can't catch Chi nah flu again... mostly because they're dead. But they still can infect others.

1918 flu dead Eskimos had recoverable virus in their graves.

Posted by: torabora at August 05, 2022 12:41 PM (Y274z)

291 There's ALWAYS time for sodomy and Godzilla.
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022

***
By the way: "sodomy" of course is named for the favorite practices of that city's inhabitants. What was Gomorrah notorious for (other than having an ugly name)?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 05, 2022 12:41 PM (txdEq)

292 What happened to "The pandemic of the Unvaccinated. " ?

Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2022 12:34 PM (bs+z0)

the data seems to point to the more jabs, the more coofs.

So those who are 2x boosted are more coof-friendly, as it were.

Posted by: kallisto at August 05, 2022 12:41 PM (dCxaZ)

293 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 05, 2022 12:34 PM (WWh8n)

So the bikini is conservative. Great! What about the chick wearing it?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2022 12:42 PM (snPsk)

294
Apple is fascinating to watch. They no longer are innovative or even cool, but they keep raising the prices on their products. Its like a game to see how high they can get that I Phone with yet another camera on it to go before their mindless zombie hordes stop buying it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2022 12:39 PM (Ivdso)

This isn't very important, but was at trivia night at a local haunt a while back and the guy asked a question about the most followed page on Facebook.

The answer was Samsung and by a longshot. Apple wasn't in the top 5. That surprised me.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:42 PM (Zz0t1)

295 274 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:39 PM (LvTSG)
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Dayum; that girl won big in the genetic lottery. Thank you for the linky.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 05, 2022 12:42 PM (1QyFB)

296 "It will make our tax system more fair by making corporations pay a minimum tax," he said.

Their failure to understand how this works means they need to be launched to the sun.
==
There's you inflation and job killing recession right there, geniuses.

Posted by: We are in the hands of deeply stupid, deeply corrupt leaders at August 05, 2022 12:43 PM (oKebq)

297 If you have a 401k you care if corporations pay 70% tax rates.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 05, 2022 12:43 PM (vcv8B)

298 273 If they put up a notice requesting unpaid interns to go out and fuck with normal Americans, their ranks would swell.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at August 05, 2022 12:43 PM (lz5hY)

299 What was Gomorrah notorious for (other than having an ugly name)?

I believe it was the home town of one of Godzilla's enemies.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2022 12:43 PM (/NCI4)

300 The government is a morbidly obese entity that thinks all of its ills and pains can be solved by eating more.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 05, 2022 12:43 PM (EGSGm)

301 The worst part is the money they are gonna throw at green energy crap.. Another Solyndra in the making....

Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2022 12:43 PM (bs+z0)

302 By the way: "sodomy" of course is named for the favorite practices of that city's inhabitants. What was Gomorrah notorious for (other than having an ugly name)?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 05, 2022 12:41 PM (txdEq)

"Gomorrahry" is the belief that the WuVaxx actually works.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 05, 2022 12:43 PM (68G8/)

303 LOL Eric Adams is requiring photos of applicants for jobs in order to "increase diversity" (translation: hire more brotha's) in city jobs. I mean aside from the blatant racism here, that's actually illegal under federal employment law. And, probably NY state and NY City law.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2022 12:44 PM (Ivdso)

304 >>> 290 #264

Well dead vax deniers can't catch Chi nah flu again... mostly because they're dead. But they still can infect others.

1918 flu dead Eskimos had recoverable virus in their graves.
Posted by: torabora at August 05, 2022 12:41 PM (Y274z)

Dead vaxx-tards can do the exact same thing, since none of these medications are real vaccines.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 05, 2022 12:44 PM (llON8)

305 I'm not concerned about being censured. None of my critics have ever known the ineffable joy I take in huffing Mitch McConnell's ass.

Posted by: Sen John Cornhole at August 05, 2022 12:44 PM (sWM8x)

306 What was Gomorrah notorious for (other than having an ugly name)?

the inhabitants would allow transient folks to come in and do teh secks with their daughters.

Posted by: kallisto at August 05, 2022 12:44 PM (dCxaZ)

307 Fighting to make sure people who want you dead pay less in taxes based on some nonsense about less to reinvest.
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 12:41 PM (OalnH)

It's not "less to reinvest" it's, $10 of after tax income is more attractive to investors than $5 of after tax income. If you change taxes on capital, you change taxes on rates of return for existing assets. Asset prices will drop to compensate and over time it'll balance back for the most part but the net effect is lower investment spending, particularly an investment spending shock in the short run.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 05, 2022 12:44 PM (b2nrj)

308 The government is a morbidly obese entity that thinks all of its ills and pains can be solved by eating more.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 05, 2022 12:43 PM (EGSGm)

...a whaffer theeen mint?

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:44 PM (Zz0t1)

309 305 I'm not concerned about being censured. None of my critics have ever known the ineffable joy I take in huffing Mitch McConnell's ass.
Posted by: Sen John Cornhole at August 05, 2022 12:44 PM (sWM8x)

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Is "ineffable" the word of the week, or something?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:44 PM (LvTSG)

310 249 On the good news front President Shit My Pants tested positive for the China virus again today.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2022 12:31 PM (ZLI7S)

What's he going to do this time to prove he's better and stronger than Donald Trump?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at August 05, 2022 12:45 PM (eGTCV)

311
You own stock right, what do you suppose happens if the capital gains rate goes to 50%? Existing investors kind of get screwed and new investors don't really have a changed experience.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 05, 2022 12:40 PM (b2nrj)

Capital gains taxes went up in the 90s. And stocks did just fine. Even though all the conservatives swore it would mean a stock market collapse.

50% for those making over $10M a year? Fuck yeah. Where do Insign up?

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 12:45 PM (OalnH)

312 LOL. Residents of one Israeli town on the Gaza border complained that a new Hamas observation post allowed most of the town to be under the direct observation of Hamas.

Suddenly, none of the Hamas observation posts on the Gaza border are there anymore.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 05, 2022 12:45 PM (I2/tG)

313 I'm enjoying the post-COVID world.

My company makes me check off a symptom list and affirm I haven't been exposed to anyone with COVID in order to approve my coming in to work.

Any time I'm hung over or want to go to a concert or vacation, all I have to do is answer that I've been exposed and have a sore throat and I get a few days off without even asking, it will be at the company's insistence.

Definitely gonna have COVID around the holidays.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 05, 2022 12:45 PM (VUspP)

314 Wasn’t “How Are Things in Gay Gomorrah?” a song from the musical Finian’s Rainbow Flag?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2022 12:45 PM (oi8Dv)

315 "Small businesses pay corporate taxes too. Unless they're an income passthrough which pays normal income taxes."
exactly. this will force small businesses to close, or be acquired, it will result in more large businesses and fewer small ones who can't handle the new tax well."

good point .. I guess most small biz that would compete with BigCorp are incorporated (or whatever the term is). I was always a sole proprietorship, tiny biz, not small.

Privately held can be more independent maybe, less woke, but all that "free money" from uninvolved shareholders has been nice for WokeBigCorp.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 05, 2022 12:45 PM (Cus5s)

316 Is "ineffable" the word of the week, or something?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:44 PM (LvTSG)

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Indubitably

Posted by: 496 at August 05, 2022 12:45 PM (VJsqe)

317 I suppose its possible but I have yet to hear of a single person who refused the "vaccine" getting the Wuhan Flu again. Not one. But many, many people who got the shot, yes more than once.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2022

***
I took no test in June when I was briefly and mildly sick. Miss Linda, whose case was a little worse but still mild, tested +. I guess I had it. Now I suspect I got the Coof way back in Dec. 2019, but I have no proof.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 05, 2022 12:45 PM (txdEq)

318 Is "ineffable" the word of the week, or something?

Well, fetch didn't go anywhere.

Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2022 12:45 PM (/NCI4)

319 I'm all in on letting the corporations hang out to dry. The billionaires too. There were only two reasons I always opposed increasing their taxes. One was based on principles, I just think it's wrong for the government to punish success and confiscate income. But screw principles, all the NeverTrumpers did. And second, because I believed corporations and private citizens could spend the money better than the federal government, but we know how THAT worked out with the "fortify the election" fiasco. So f--- them all. It's a left-wing constituency, and Republicans are just stupid enough to do the dirty work of defending an unpopular Democrat constituency for them.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at August 05, 2022 12:45 PM (Oj91u)

320 With Sinema getting on board with this +$700b boondogle, she had the carried interest pieces of the legislation removed.

In its place is some form of surcharge on companies who buy stock back.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 05, 2022 12:45 PM (N39Ws)

321 I believe it was the home town of one of Godzilla's enemies.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2022 12:43 PM (/NCI4)

Gommorrah is friend (with benefits) to children

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2022 12:45 PM (/EuRN)

322 Three years until this bitch can be ousted, and Arizona will probably reelect her.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 05, 2022 12:46 PM (Gm7bq)

323 What's he going to do this time to prove he's better and stronger than Donald Trump?
Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at August 05, 2022 12:45 PM (eGTCV

Have his puppet Garland charge Trump with a crime and try and lock him up.. It's coming

Posted by: It's me donna at August 05, 2022 12:46 PM (bs+z0)

324 Is "ineffable" the word of the week, or something?

Well, fetch didn't go anywhere.
Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2022 12:45 PM (/NCI4)

But snizz....snizz goes everywhere.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:46 PM (Zz0t1)

325 322 Three years until this bitch can be ousted, and Arizona will probably reelect her.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 05, 2022 12:46 PM (Gm7bq)

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I still think the activist left successfully ousts her in a primary fight.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:46 PM (LvTSG)

326 Bidenvilles here we come.
==
Don't worry, there won't be any overcrowding. We mean to kill most of you off first.

Posted by: Dr. Fauci, because he cares at August 05, 2022 12:46 PM (oKebq)

327 income. If you change taxes on capital, you change taxes on rates of return for existing assets. Asset prices will drop to compensate and over time it'll balance back for the most part but the net effect is lower investment spending, particularly an investment spending shock in the short run.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 05, 2022 12:44 PM (b2nrj

I was talking about the individual tax rates of Nikes ceo. That has zero effect on investment by Nike.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 12:46 PM (OalnH)

328 What's he going to do this time to prove he's better and stronger than Donald Trump?
Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at August 05, 2022 12:45 PM (eGTCV

How about die and have a longer funeral than his friend John McCain?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 05, 2022 12:46 PM (N39Ws)

329 Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 05, 2022 12:43 PM (EGSGm

Statement belongs on a bunker sticker.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2022 12:47 PM (snPsk)

330 I will be glad to pay you Tuesday, for a hamburger today.

- Wimpy Congress

Posted by: Darth Randall at August 05, 2022 12:47 PM (zL564)

331 The answer was Samsung and by a longshot. Apple wasn't in the top 5. That surprised me.

I don't think Apple even leads in the smart phone sales any more, and their personal computer market share was always in the 25-30% market share area. They're HUGE on publicity and buzz but not big on sales, except for the Iphone and MP3 player markets.

Which... they aren't any longer. But like the percentage of blacks or homosexuals in America, people think its way higher than it is.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2022 12:47 PM (Ivdso)

332 "What was Gomorrah notorious for (other than having an ugly name)?"

Gonorreha? A city of STD-laden f'ers and f'ee's

Posted by: Scott_T at August 05, 2022 12:47 PM (2waQ7)

333 >>> 310 249 On the good news front President Shit My Pants tested positive for the China virus again today.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2022 12:31 PM (ZLI7S)

What's he going to do this time to prove he's better and stronger than Donald Trump?
Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at August 05, 2022 12:45 PM (eGTCV)

I don't know, but it seems the "powers" of "Dark Brandon" derive entirely from doing something OrangeManBad already did much better.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 05, 2022 12:47 PM (llON8)

334 >>What happened to "The pandemic of the Unvaccinated. " ?

Posted by: It's me donna

That sounds like something that ignorant Republican fossil in Alabama said once.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at August 05, 2022 12:47 PM (m7R0k)

335 I think whoever came up with "dickin pox" earlier won the spotted dick naming contest.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at August 05, 2022 12:47 PM (dG/j3)

336 When the hard left and the nationalist right are increasingly united on who they want to see get guillotined, Wall streeters really need to consider running to New Zealand or the Middle East.

Posted by: trev006 at August 05, 2022 12:47 PM (rwuUF)

337 I thought the Word of the Week was serpiginous.

As in "Sarah, you serpiginous slag".

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2022 12:47 PM (ZiV6b)

338 Historical Corporate Tax Rates and Brackets, 1909 to 2020

https://bityl.co/DfoI

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 05, 2022 12:47 PM (PY/t0)

339
I don't know why we're doing favors for people who hate us.

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This part is just a little off the mark.

Big Business doesn't hate us. They just love profits. And in a corrupt, fascist system, incumbent capital plays ball with the people who have power. And those people are Democrats. These guys correctly perceive that Republicans are fully-coopted controlled opposition, and their voters are voiceless, powerless peasants with no representation.

They don't hate us. We're just not part of the calculation at all.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 05, 2022 12:48 PM (IXpV7)

340 >>>I still think the activist left successfully ousts her in a primary fight.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I hope you're right, and I also hope AZ has someone who can defeat the leftist challenger.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 05, 2022 12:48 PM (Gm7bq)

341 50% for those making over $10M a year? Fuck yeah. Where do Insign up?
Posted by: Joe Xiden

Depending on the state, they already pay well over 50%.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 05, 2022 12:48 PM (vcv8B)

342 Remember the Tom Clancy novel where a Japan Air Lines pilot flies his plane into the Capital during a Residential address to a Joint Session? I used to think, "ooh, that would be terrible!" Now I think, we are a resilient country, we can get through that sort of a crisis. And in the meantime, no spending bills.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 05, 2022 12:49 PM (1QyFB)

343 Pay no attention to the spending in this bill, There were 528 thousand new jobs this month !

Posted by: JOE! at August 05, 2022 12:49 PM (bs+z0)

344 McDonald's is "McDone" with the "Beyond Meat" McPlant burger as sales flop

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Whaaa? Bug Burgers didn't sell?!!!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Summer of Our Discontent n at August 05, 2022 12:49 PM (FVME7)

345 Not to be confused with “uneffable,” which describes Trigglypuff. So

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2022 12:49 PM (oi8Dv)

346 Definitely gonna have COVID around the holidays.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 05, 2022 12:45 PM (VUspP)

I've noted a couple silver linings to this scamdemic cloud. We get our consolation where we can.

Posted by: kallisto at August 05, 2022 12:49 PM (dCxaZ)

347 >>> 336 When the hard left and the nationalist right are increasingly united on who they want to see get guillotined, Wall streeters really need to consider running to New Zealand or the Middle East.
Posted by: trev006 at August 05, 2022 12:47 PM (rwuUF)

Heh. I wouldn't bet on the Middle East, and I don't think New Zealand will be far enough. We already have support on the ground there (waves at NZFrank).

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 05, 2022 12:49 PM (llON8)

348 340 I hope you're right, and I also hope AZ has someone who can defeat the leftist challenger.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 05, 2022 12:48 PM (Gm7bq)

===========

If Lake and Masters win this year, we could be seeing a FL-like turnaround in cheating regarding Maricopa County like how Broward County got cleaned up in FL.

Maricopa understands this. So does the McCain machine. It's a steep hill.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 12:49 PM (LvTSG)

349 Well, at least I console myself with knowing that just a couple days ago, before she was "on the fence," that it was a done deal anyway. What's another bomb to the economy? It will just accelerate our collapse and then we can get that divorce I've been hoping for.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 05, 2022 12:49 PM (sVtYq)

350 327

I was talking about the individual tax rates of Nikes ceo. That has zero effect on investment by Nike.
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 12:46 PM (OalnH)

Nobody talks about individual taxes as pertaining to investment since that has to do with labor decisions by individuals. It's strawmanish then to suggest anyone was arguing that a Nike CEO's individual tax rate has to do with investing.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 05, 2022 12:49 PM (b2nrj)

351 DeSantis being a boss. A Viking boss.

As awesome as it was to see DeSantis take such a stand for the rule of law, this story is even better than we thought. According to the executive order, DeSantis sent police to remove him.

As of the signing of this Executive Order, the Hillsborough County Sheriff’s Office, assisted by other law enforcement agencies as necessary, is requested to: (i) assist in the immediate transition of Andrew Warren from the Office of the State Attorney for the 13th Judicial Circuit of Florida, with access only to retrieve his personal belongings; and (ii) ensure that no files, papers, documents, notes, records, computers, or removable storage media are removed from the Office of the State Attorney for the 13th Judicial Circuit of Florida or any of his staff.

https://tinyurl.com/2v9h99hh

Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2022 12:49 PM (/NCI4)

352 I will never, ever understand people who want someone richer than they are to suffer. Its not like that helps you or makes you any more wealthy.

And its not like the US government needs more tax revenue to control and ruin our lives. It needs to spend less, not earn more.

But I guess that old envy bug is hard to shake off.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2022 12:50 PM (Ivdso)

353 Depending on the state, they already pay well over 50%.
Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 05, 2022 12:48 PM (vcv8B)

Good. Make it 70%.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 12:50 PM (OalnH)

354 @340

>>I hope you're right, and I also hope AZ has someone who can defeat the leftist challenger.

About that...
--
Maricopa Registrar of Voters.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at August 05, 2022 12:50 PM (wGdPE)

355 YMCA bans 80-year-old grandma after she complained about a "transgender woman" hanging out with little girls in women's locker room

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Damn uppity 80 year old bigots!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Summer of Our Discontent n at August 05, 2022 12:50 PM (FVME7)

356 This part is just a little off the mark.

Big Business doesn't hate us. They just love profits. And in a corrupt, fascist system, incumbent capital plays ball with the people who have power. And those people are Democrats. These guys correctly perceive that Republicans are fully-coopted controlled opposition, and their voters are voiceless, powerless peasants with no representation.

They don't hate us. We're just not part of the calculation at all.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 05, 2022 12:48 PM (IXpV7)

It's not pure profit-seeking as many coming out of the colleges, who then run these corps and make the decisions, are lefty loons.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 05, 2022 12:50 PM (b2nrj)

357 Sick of seeing "heat alerts" on the weather app.

All part of the climate change hysteria. It goes over 85 and suddenly we shouldn't go out. What'll they say when it's over 86 but you can't use your AC.
Shoot yourself?

Posted by: Ziba at August 05, 2022 12:50 PM (4h9M3)

358 I am no Apple fangirl. Our family bought iphones because back in the day it was the natural upgrade to the ipods for our daughters. And it's just inertia to not change phone styles since I would have to get used to Samsung. My impression was that the Samsung was just as expensive - but clearly need to research more next upgrade.

Posted by: Iris at August 05, 2022 12:50 PM (foa6+)

359 >>>If Lake and Masters win this year, we could be seeing a FL-like turnaround in cheating regarding Maricopa County like how Broward County got cleaned up in FL

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

My best friend lives there, and I love Arizona. I just hate what it's become.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 05, 2022 12:51 PM (Gm7bq)

360 A ten year plan to fix inflation.

The solution is always just beyond the next election.

Posted by: davidt at August 05, 2022 12:51 PM (oTZbj)

361 According to the executive order, DeSantis sent police to remove him.

So its like the boss fired you, and sent security along to make sure you cleaned your desk out but didn't do any damage, steal any staplers, and didn't delete any files.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2022 12:51 PM (Ivdso)

362 Repost.

This is epic.

https://is.gd/VhHNin

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:51 PM (Zz0t1)

363 (ii) ensure that no files, papers, documents, notes, records, computers, or removable storage media are removed from the Office of the State Attorney for the 13th Judicial Circuit of Florida or any of his staff.

Methinks that the Soros DA has some interesting documents in his office.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 05, 2022 12:51 PM (I2/tG)

364 352

Bullshit. It’s not envy. It’s punishment. The ultra rich are fucking us on a daily basis. I want them punished for that not for being ultra rich.

But hey, it’s fun to live in a National Review 2003 world where corporations and rich people are the good guys and muhJobCreators and shit.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 12:52 PM (OalnH)

365 one of the silver linings to the scamdemic cloud is that now when an "aromatic" pyrsyn walks into our place of business, I can immediately don a face mask and it will not seem offensive.

Posted by: kallisto at August 05, 2022 12:52 PM (dCxaZ)

366 250
'spend the winter naked in a cage in the town square.'

I have a few vacancies.

Posted by: 3 Cages atop Munster Cathedral at August 05, 2022 12:52 PM (YohY1)

367 I associate Sodom and Gomorrah with syphilis & gonnorhea, not sure why!
Bible doesn't say exactly what sins doomed the two cities except "pride, excess of good, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy", "haughty" and fid "abominable things"
But I think in Judaism they have more details on the two cities sins

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 05, 2022 12:52 PM (y8Kvt)

368 Ineffable means wonderful in a way that is hard to describe.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 05, 2022 12:53 PM (B0WXn)

369
Methinks that the Soros DA has some interesting documents in his office.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 05, 2022 12:51 PM (I2/tG)

I'm betting the shredders have been glowing red since the order was made yesterday.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:53 PM (Zz0t1)

370 They don't hate us. We're just not part of the calculation at all.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 05, 2022 12:48 PM (IXpV7)

You and I rarely disagree but I think increasingly the upper echelons of all these organizations do specifically hate us. Leftards know how to advance in this world and then they help their own. Some idiots like us still want to hire based on merit. But honestly I would never hire a leftard to work in my own organization (if I had one) EVER.

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2022 12:53 PM (ZiV6b)

371 Is "ineffable" the word of the week, or something?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022

***
To be followed by:

". . . deep and inscrutable singular Name."

Posted by: Cats Everywhere at August 05, 2022 12:53 PM (txdEq)

372 And its not like the US government needs more tax revenue to control and ruin our lives. It needs to spend less, not earn more.

But I guess that old envy bug is hard to shake off.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2022 12:50 PM (Ivdso)

Agree completely, except for “earn.”

Posted by: LASue at August 05, 2022 12:53 PM (Ed8Zd)

373 I'm pretty sure "Maricopa" is Spanish for "Nazi Vote Fraud Mecca".

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Summer of Our Discontent n at August 05, 2022 12:53 PM (FVME7)

374 Bible doesn't say exactly what sins doomed the two cities except "pride, excess of good, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy", "haughty" and fid "abominable things"

Well there was that incident where a mob of young men demanded that Lot send the angels out into the street so they could rape them.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2022 12:53 PM (Ivdso)

375 If we start calling it the "Don't Say Gay Act" will the press exclusively use that name?

Posted by: motionview, a National Divorcee at August 05, 2022 12:53 PM (5ks96)

376 364 352

Bullshit. It’s not envy. It’s punishment. The ultra rich are fucking us on a daily basis. I want them punished for that not for being ultra rich.

But hey, it’s fun to live in a National Review 2003 world where corporations and rich people are the good guys and muhJobCreators and shit.
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 12:52 PM (OalnH)

You think the Dems are going to punish the ultra rich?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 05, 2022 12:54 PM (b2nrj)

377 I just checked. They dropped the carried interest tax increase to get Sinema on board. That was the one f*cking justifiable part of the bill. Sinema was paid off by wall street and the rest of us were sold out.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 05, 2022 12:54 PM (vcv8B)

378 The 300 billion collected from taxes should have been required to pay down the debt before any spending started.

Posted by: roc ingersol at August 05, 2022 12:54 PM (V4q4k)

379 I feel a little itchy and scratchy today.

Posted by: Cory Booker at August 05, 2022 12:54 PM (z9V4B)

380 https://tinyurl.com/2v9h99hh
Posted by: Archimedes at August 05, 2022 12:49 PM (/NCI4)

That's a great move. I wonder if there's some evidence of criminal conspiracy or collusion that could take them all down. Sorry, for a moment thought there was a Federal agency that would do something for the citizens.

Posted by: Iris at August 05, 2022 12:54 PM (foa6+)

381 Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:51 PM (Zz0t1)

I don't have sound. Is this when they all found out the frogs are ghey?

Posted by: kallisto at August 05, 2022 12:54 PM (dCxaZ)

382 83
Borrowing money to pay off debt...how does that work?
Posted by: BignJames at August 05, 2022 12:14 PM (AwYPR)
.......

I don't know but my ex-wife tries it all the time. Her credit card companies call me regularly.

Posted by: wth at August 05, 2022 12:54 PM (v0R5T)

383 I am so tired of being lied to and stolen from by the fake US Government.

Posted by: Puddinhead at August 05, 2022 12:54 PM (ppL7t)

384 You think the Dems are going to punish the ultra rich?
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 05, 2022 12:54 PM (b2nrj)

Of course not. But if the gop were smart they would. But they’re not so they won’t.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 12:54 PM (OalnH)

385 On the good news front President Shit My Pants tested positive for the China virus again today.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2022 12:31 PM (ZLI7S)
_________

Why aren't the media all over this, praising his heroism by catching it so others don't? I guess it just shows how right wing they are.
==
Thas rightal rite. I am a Covid sponge je. I am soakin ... ... I'm a taking all the Covid in me so that you can't get it. I am going to stop covid in its tracks. Then squeeze out all the Covid on ... Jack that's a dumb question. Here's what matters. I'm absorbent, yellow and porous.

Did you know my VP was a starfish?

Posted by: SpongeJoe President Poopy pants at August 05, 2022 12:55 PM (ijUJc)

386 Ineffable means wonderful in a way that is hard to describe.

And uneffable does not.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 05, 2022 12:55 PM (KFhLj)

387 I feel a little itchy and scratchy today.
Posted by: Cory Booker

"Could you tell Spartacus to keep his hands off us?"
--Itchy and Scratchy

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2022 12:55 PM (Ivdso)

388 379 I feel a little itchy and scratchy today.
Posted by: Cory Booker at August 05, 2022 12:54 PM (z9V4B)

At least take comfort in knowing that your girlfriend is safe.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 05, 2022 12:55 PM (/EuRN)

389 Bullshit. It’s not envy. It’s punishment. The ultra rich are fucking us on a daily basis. I want them punished for that not for being ultra rich.
Posted by: Joe Xiden

Except they just dropped the one provision that would have "punished" the ultra rich: carried interest.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 05, 2022 12:55 PM (vcv8B)

390 Bible doesn't say exactly what sins doomed the two cities except "pride, excess of good, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy", "haughty" and fid "abominable things"

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So the Abominable Snowman's fault?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Summer of Our Discontent n at August 05, 2022 12:55 PM (FVME7)

391 "I hope you're right, and I also hope AZ has someone who can defeat the leftist challenger."
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 05, 2022 12:48 PM (Gm7bq)

I think both Masters and Lake have what it takes. Just like DeSantis and Trump they can talk off the cuff, to people, without sounding like a robotic talking point machine. I'm looking at you Mike Pence/Ted Cruz.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 05, 2022 12:55 PM (qH6FZ)

392
Bullshit. It’s not envy. It’s punishment. The ultra rich are fucking us on a daily basis. I want them punished for that not for being ultra rich.

-------

The entire system is corrupt, including all institutions inside of it. Corporate America is one of them. This entire village has to be burned in order to save it.

Many college professors and police officers and priests and rabbis are just middle class people, but I hate them for the exact same reasons I hate CEOs.

If you're part of the game - well, then... fuck you.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 05, 2022 12:55 PM (IXpV7)

393 Ineffable means wonderful in a way that is hard to describe.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 05, 2022 12:53 PM (B0WXn)

So that means Karen Gillan is both amazingly ineffable and yet astonishingly effable.

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2022 12:55 PM (ZiV6b)

394 Biden is catching Covid so much at this point that he's got to be some kind of bugchaser.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 05, 2022 12:56 PM (KFhLj)

395
I don't have sound. Is this when they all found out the frogs are ghey?
Posted by: kallisto at August 05, 2022 12:54 PM (dCxaZ)

The lawyer says something about how on his show, Jones accuses the Government in peddling pedophilia and Jones responds with "You mean like what Jeffery Epstein was doing with the Clintons?"

Then the UFC ringside reaction.....

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:56 PM (Zz0t1)

396 LOL Eric Adams is requiring photos of applicants for jobs in order to "increase diversity" (translation: hire more brotha's) in city jobs.

--

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say he didn't campaign for NYC mayor on a platform of unbridled racism. It would also be interesting to note just what the racial breakdown of city employees is in the Big Crapple.

Posted by: Lady in Black at August 05, 2022 12:56 PM (sVtYq)

397 "smuggled through reconciliation."

They aren't smuggling anything. Toiliticians know the score. This language is for the news reader apparatus to report and sell to the ones paying the bill.

Posted by: Fool Otto at August 05, 2022 12:56 PM (DB16e)

398 Damn uppity 80 year old bigots!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Summer of Our Discontent n at August 05, 2022 12:50 PM (FVME7)

And guess what? Grandma is telling her whole family about this and if they were going to vote for Democrats they will reconsider. The "C" in YMCA stands for something else now, doesn't it?. It doesn't stand for "Christian"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2022 12:56 PM (snPsk)

399 ZH has a good post up examining the "job growth".

The odd things is that labor participation isn't rising, in fact it's shrinking slightly.

The news jobs are largely 2nd jobs taken on by people to try to pay for the ever rising cost of everything.

Since March there is a rise of 1.68 million jobs and yet a loss of 168k households reporting employment.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 05, 2022 12:57 PM (VUspP)

400 386 Ineffable means wonderful in a way that is hard to describe.

And uneffable does not.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls

Neither does effable, but only because it's not hard to describe why it's wonderful.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 05, 2022 12:57 PM (vcv8B)

401 314 Wasn’t “How Are Things in Gay Gomorrah?” a song from the musical Finian’s Rainbow Flag?

wasn't there a star trek:tng episode in which some alien took over the enterprise from the holodeck, searching for monkeypox city?

Posted by: kulak anachronda at August 05, 2022 12:57 PM (edU/H)

402 "But the corporation just passes the tax on to consumers!" the corporate toady class cries.

Yup, and their goods become more expensive and maybe they go under. Or maybe they no longer have profits sufficient to donate to BLM.

But, who says I have to buy their goods?
And why is "keeping the cost of goods low(er)" the price i have to pay so they can advocate, support and fund an ideology deadly opposed to freedom?

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 05, 2022 12:57 PM (Zf0+a)

403 367 I associate Sodom and Gomorrah with syphilis & gonnorhea, not sure why!
Bible doesn't say exactly what sins doomed the two cities except "pride, excess of good, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy", "haughty" and fid "abominable things"
But I think in Judaism they have more details on the two cities sins
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 05, 2022 12:52 PM (y8Kvt)

Our priest did his homily on that. Stated that it was homosexuality as well as other sins that did Sodom and Gomorrah. Couple sitting in front of me (prominent in our parish) were mortified by this. Their son is gay. They were so upset they shook.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 05, 2022 12:57 PM (N39Ws)

404 Repost.

This is epic.

https://is.gd/VhHNin
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:51 PM (Zz0t1)
........

Thanks. I needed that.

Posted by: wth at August 05, 2022 12:57 PM (v0R5T)

405 >>> 364 352

Bullshit. It’s not envy. It’s punishment. The ultra rich are fucking us on a daily basis. I want them punished for that not for being ultra rich.

But hey, it’s fun to live in a National Review 2003 world where corporations and rich people are the good guys and muhJobCreators and shit.
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 12:52 PM (OalnH)

The commies were definitely about envy in the 80s (in the 90s with Bill Clinton "prosperity" was all good). I am on board with punishment but our congresscritters are sure to protect their donor class by including dozens of write-offs inaccessible to ordinary schmoes. If Billy Gates et all keep pushing their psycho shit, they won't have to worry about taxes.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at August 05, 2022 12:57 PM (llON8)

406 So Sri Lanka it is then

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at August 05, 2022 12:57 PM (uZKJe)

407
Breaking news:
AOC has been diagnosed with Donkeypox....
Details at 11

Posted by: stu-mick-o-sucks at August 05, 2022 12:58 PM (EJqYm)

408 > On the good news front President Shit My Pants tested positive for the China virus again today.

Why did Joe Biden lie about getting the vaccine?

Posted by: bonhomme at August 05, 2022 12:58 PM (eyxn4)

409 ........

Thanks. I needed that.
Posted by: wth at August 05, 2022 12:57 PM (v0R5T)

I help where I can.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:58 PM (Zz0t1)

410 Tommy Pigott
@TommyPigott
Every time Biden says the words "Inflation Reduction Act" he is LYING.

Multiple non-partisan studies have exposed Biden's scam:

*The Penn Wharton Budget Model
*The Tax Foundation
*CBO
*Moody's Analytics

He's not reducing inflation, he's raising taxes.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 05, 2022 12:58 PM (NpAcC)

411 Biden is catching Covid so much at this point that he's got to be some kind of bugchaser.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 05, 2022 12:56 PM (KFhLj)

Covfefe ?

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 05, 2022 12:58 PM (S+j2h)

412 389 Bullshit. It’s not envy. It’s punishment. The ultra rich are fucking us on a daily basis. I want them punished for that not for being ultra rich.
Posted by: Joe Xiden

Except they just dropped the one provision that would have "punished" the ultra rich: carried interest.
Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 05, 2022 12:55 PM (vcv8B)

Yeah carried interest is a carve-out that could be removed with minimal economic impact. Though it illustrates the general problem of trying to get the ultra rich through the tax code. Despite a history of highly varied rates, things have always been dodgeable. This is why tax rates are generally not used as a tool of control, since more direct methods are far more effective.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 05, 2022 12:58 PM (b2nrj)

413 They dropped the carried interest tax increase to get Sinema on board. That was the one f*cking justifiable part of the bill. Sinema was paid off by wall street and the rest of us were sold out.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 05, 2022 12:54 PM (vcv8B)

Oh yeah I'm sure they dropped it for "her".

Posted by: ... at August 05, 2022 12:59 PM (ZiV6b)

414 He's not reducing inflation, he's raising taxes.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 05, 2022 12:58 PM (NpAcC)

Which is what they do best and the sheep keep voting for them

Posted by: JOE! at August 05, 2022 12:59 PM (bs+z0)

415 On the good news front President Shit My Pants tested positive for the China virus again today.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2022 12:31 PM (ZLI7S)
_________

How many positives is it now. 3? 4?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 05, 2022 12:59 PM (snPsk)

416 Amazing to see how many posters in here are siding with the Democrat Underground and Karl Marx RE: businesses owners. I guess all that economic understanding and history goes out the window when you don't like someone personally or their politics.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2022 12:59 PM (Ivdso)

417
He's not reducing inflation, he's raising taxes.
Posted by: redridinghood at August 05, 2022 12:58 PM (NpAcC)

On EVERYONE. All while he campaigned on NOT raising taxes on ANYONE making under $250k.

He's a liar. He's lied his entire adult life. He wouldn't know the truth if it finger fucked him in the mangina.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:59 PM (Zz0t1)

418 The right needs new material. We’ve doing the same shit for 30 years. Oh noes higher taxes on the rich, my word!!!!! Yeah fuck that noise.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 12:59 PM (OalnH)

419 Posted by: lowandslow at August 05, 2022 12:55 PM (qH6FZ)

Ted Cruz is anything but a talking point.

Posted by: roc ingersol at August 05, 2022 12:59 PM (V4q4k)

420 Manchin and Sinema were actually helping the Dems postpone the mega inflation till when the GOP takes over the House. Dems should be thanking them.

Posted by: chique l'African ViQueen of Greenland, the Merciless, open to talks with the Great MAGA King at August 05, 2022 01:00 PM (j/CAf)

421 Inflation Reduction Act. The opposite rule applies as it always does with the Democrats.

Kristen's Cinema was a rotten tomato.

Posted by: Ziba at August 05, 2022 01:00 PM (4h9M3)

422 I think increasingly the upper echelons of all these organizations do specifically hate us.
Posted by: ... at August 05, 2022 12:53 PM (ZiV6b)

No question.

Posted by: Ordinary American at August 05, 2022 01:00 PM (H8QX8)

423 404 Repost.

This is epic.

https://is.gd/VhHNin
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:51 PM (Zz0t1)
........

Thanks. I needed that.
Posted by: wth

Love it. There's a Thug Life one floating around too.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 05, 2022 01:00 PM (vcv8B)

424

Fuck that noise, I want some lunch!

Who's down for some Italian...

Posted by: Calzone Fucker at August 05, 2022 01:00 PM (JyYTb)

425 On the good news front President Shit My Pants tested positive for the China virus again today.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 05, 2022 12:31 PM (ZLI7S)

INTUBATE HIM, STAT

Posted by: wth at August 05, 2022 01:00 PM (v0R5T)

426 402 "But the corporation just passes the tax on to consumers!" the corporate toady class cries.

Yup, and their goods become more expensive and maybe they go under. Or maybe they no longer have profits sufficient to donate to BLM.

But, who says I have to buy their goods?
And why is "keeping the cost of goods low(er)" the price i have to pay so they can advocate, support and fund an ideology deadly opposed to freedom?
Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 05, 2022 12:57 PM (Zf0+a)

It's a choice. Not a free lunch. That's all that's being pointed out.

The D bill will increase inflation and promotes recession. That's arguably good for us strategically, but doesn't change the impact.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 05, 2022 01:00 PM (b2nrj)

427 If you think they keep saying Biden has covid because he actually has covid, I have Inflation Reduction Bill to sell you.

Posted by: lowandslow at August 05, 2022 01:00 PM (qH6FZ)

428 377 I just checked. They dropped the carried interest tax increase to get Sinema on board. That was the one f*cking justifiable part of the bill. Sinema was paid off by wall street and the rest of us were sold out.

yep

it's either laugh or cry at this point. the ONLY decent part of the monstrosity. gone.

the rest is fakery designed to extract more money out of innocent people via taxes. with a show of "punishing big companies" that only the truly dim would believe.

yet here we are. again.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 05, 2022 01:01 PM (w0NJk)

429 The administration has just changed the definition of the phrase "budget reconciliation".

Pray they don't alter it further.

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2022 01:01 PM (krQz2)

430 Middle class women are buying Monkeypox test kits because you know they may have participated in a homosexual orgy without knowing it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2022 01:01 PM (Ivdso)

431 416 Amazing to see how many posters in here are siding with the Democrat Underground and Karl Marx RE: businesses owners. I guess all that economic understanding and history goes out the window when you don't like someone personally or their politics.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2022 12:59 PM (Ivdso)

And amazing to see many posters here who still think it’s 2003.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 01:01 PM (OalnH)

432 hey dropped the carried interest tax increase to get Sinema on board. That was the one f*cking justifiable part of the bill. Sinema was paid off by wall street and the rest of us were sold out.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 05, 2022 12:54 PM (vcv8B)

I'm surprised Wall Street Senator Schumer let it in there in the first place. Maybe he knew it wouldn't survive and it was all theater. If the GOP really took the new populist label seriously they would've eliminated it themselves when they had control.

Posted by: Mark1971 at August 05, 2022 01:01 PM (xPl2J)

433 420 Manchin and Sinema were actually helping the Dems postpone the mega inflation till when the GOP takes over the House. Dems should be thanking them.
Posted by: chique l'African ViQueen of Greenland, the Merciless, open to talks with the Great MAGA King at August 05, 2022 01:00 PM (j/CAf)

==========

"The party in power" is ALWAYS the party that controls the White House. Just look at who is given credit for the economic boom in the late 90s. It ain't Newt.

Delaying economic pain until after the midterms (when we're already in the middle of a bunch of economic pain) doesn't actually help Democrats right now or for 2024.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 01:01 PM (LvTSG)

434 oh and Brown Biden can't clear the virus b/c his immune system don't work so good

he'll test positive for it for the rest of his life

Posted by: BlackOrchid at August 05, 2022 01:01 PM (w0NJk)

435 Devastating car crash in Los Angeles yesterday. A Mercedes went thought an intersection like a missile.

youtube.com/watch?v=cUt0_YtYplY
youtube.com/watch?v=tg7v-G-SdV8

Go ahead and ban guns. Nobody could possibly hurt anybody anymore.

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at August 05, 2022 01:02 PM (MFZ8i)

436 Ineffable means wonderful in a way that is hard to describe.

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Really? Because I always thought Whoopsie was un-eff-able

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Summer of Our Discontent n at August 05, 2022 01:02 PM (FVME7)

437 Biden is catching Covid so much at this point that he's got to be some kind of bugchaser.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 05, 2022 12:56 PM (KFhLj)

Covfefe ?
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 05, 2022 12:58 PM (S+j2h)

I'm thinking he goes to bathhouses and huffs from others' masks, like Dennis Hopper taking in oxygen in Blue Velvet, while watching some good old-fashioned "love is love."

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 05, 2022 01:02 PM (KFhLj)

438 FFS that's not a covid test he's taking.

Posted by: Ziba at August 05, 2022 01:02 PM (4h9M3)

439 Razorfist has been calling Sinema out for a long time while people were fangirling her.

Posted by: chique l'African ViQueen of Greenland, the Merciless, open to talks with the Great MAGA King at August 05, 2022 01:02 PM (j/CAf)

440 Wait, its 2020 so now Karl Marx was right?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2022 01:02 PM (Ivdso)

441 Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 05, 2022 12:52 PM (y8Kvt)

Depravity was used to describe the cities in some verses in Peter.

Posted by: roc ingersol at August 05, 2022 01:03 PM (V4q4k)

442 Dem policies generally encourage consolidation of industry. Big government loves big industry, easier to direct.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 05, 2022 01:03 PM (b2nrj)

443 Neat picture of a Mososaur that is still in the process of being separated from the rock containing the fossil.

https://bit.ly/3SrArHv

Posted by: bonhomme at August 05, 2022 01:03 PM (eyxn4)

444 So does this include the 80k new IRS agents to go after The Rich (sarc) and as a bonus destroy the lives of the middle class?

Posted by: Just Curious at August 05, 2022 01:03 PM (omS12)

445 This is like the Obamacare scoring, with premiums that were subsidized, with the promise that we would make people pay the real premium in X number of years.

Did not happen.

Posted by: Ultra pj at August 05, 2022 01:04 PM (G1dq6)

446 435 Devastating car crash in Los Angeles yesterday. A Mercedes went thought an intersection like a missile.

youtube.com/watch?v=cUt0_YtYplY
youtube.com/watch?v=tg7v-G-SdV8

Go ahead and ban guns. Nobody could possibly hurt anybody anymore.
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at August 05, 2022 01:02 PM (MFZ8i)

A bystander who was at the gas station near where this happened saw a baby flying through the air -ejected from the crash - and land on the pavement near her feet.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 05, 2022 01:04 PM (N39Ws)

447 The party in power" is ALWAYS the party that controls the White House. Just look at who is given credit for the economic boom in the late 90s. It ain't Newt.

Delaying economic pain until after the midterms (when we're already in the middle of a bunch of economic pain) doesn't actually help Democrats right now or for 2024.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 01:01 PM (LvTSG)

That won't stop them from trying or some dimwits from believing them. But I hope you are right.

Posted by: chique l'African ViQueen of Greenland, the Merciless, open to talks with the Great MAGA King at August 05, 2022 01:04 PM (j/CAf)

448 @347 Helena Handbasket/trev006-but the stupid MF'ers on the left that we're "aligned" don't realize that these corps are their guys even more so now than in the past. It's impossible to get them to see it. My comment above is full of cynicism and agree with others like Red Turban as far as the repercussions of going after big corps, but we are headed for the cliff anyways so lets give them what they want good n hard. I'll be prepared for it more than they will. I guess I'm Let It Burn at this point.

Posted by: JROD at August 05, 2022 01:04 PM (0jZnq)

449 This is epic.

https://is.gd/VhHNin
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden

A few twats below that is the poster reading a "hostage" letter explaining the post. Funny stuff too.

Posted by: Fool Otto at August 05, 2022 01:04 PM (DB16e)

450 Severe recession in 2023 held Dems, since the recovery will be in 2024. And the media will be all WOW look at how amazing this economic growth is right now.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 01:04 PM (OalnH)

451 I'm pretty sure "Maricopa" is Spanish for "Nazi Vote Fraud Mecca".
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Summer of Our Discontent n at August 05, 2022

***
"In Maricopa, in Maricopa,
Corruption and cheatin' so the Rs get beaten
In Maricopa!"

Posted by: Political Barry Manilow at August 05, 2022 01:05 PM (txdEq)

452 Oh yeah I'm sure they dropped it for "her".
Posted by: ...

Point taken. Carried interest was probably never going to make it and its demise was coordinated by Schumer from the get-go. But note how wall street not only succeeded in removing the one provision that would have had them paying more tax, but also got it done for the least cost. This is seriously effed up.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at August 05, 2022 01:05 PM (vcv8B)

453 Importing million of illegals which will massively increase demand for everything, including more spending, won't cause inflation either, right?

Posted by: Ripley at August 05, 2022 01:05 PM (MxEKc)

454 Republican votes in AZ gubernatorial primary:
716,568

Democrat votes in AZ gubernatorial primary:
542,149

That's a difference of 174,419 in favor of Republicans compared across two competitive primaries in the same state on the same day.

That's interesting.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 01:05 PM (LvTSG)

455 430 Middle class women are buying Monkeypox test kits because you know they may have participated in a homosexual orgy without knowing it.

I have to put the swab "there"?

Posted by: Ziba at August 05, 2022 01:05 PM (4h9M3)

456 A few twats below that is the poster reading a "hostage" letter explaining the post. Funny stuff too.

the nervous looks off camera and "repeat the line" put it over the top, much funnier than the original video.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2022 01:06 PM (Ivdso)

457 I miss Monty’s DOOM! threads. Wonder what he’d be saying now.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at August 05, 2022 01:06 PM (oi8Dv)

458 That's interesting.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 01:05 PM (LvTSG)

Th D primaries were snoozefests. I don’t think it means much. The side with the high profile battles will always outdraw the other side.

Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 01:07 PM (OalnH)

459 Nood woke racist ideology.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at August 05, 2022 01:07 PM (b2nrj)

460 Nude Something Something

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 05, 2022 01:07 PM (BgzxT)

461 447 That won't stop them from trying or some dimwits from believing them. But I hope you are right.
Posted by: chique l'African ViQueen of Greenland, the Merciless, open to talks with the Great MAGA King at August 05, 2022 01:04 PM (j/CAf)

===========

Political messaging will always affect some part of the population. There will always been dimwits who say, "I'm a lifelong Republican but I can't vote for Republicans this year because of messaging I heard on Twitter." These Republicans, by the way, haven't voted Republican since Bob Dole.

For the mushy middle, they're not plugged into political messaging, and they vote generally on how they're feeling the country is going based on their own experiences with jobs and money.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 01:07 PM (LvTSG)

462 Suspended activist FL prosecutor Warren vows to continue doing his job as prosecutor.

https://bit.ly/3bz8VY4

I look forward to this clown trying to prosecute a case from outside the courthouse.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 05, 2022 01:07 PM (eyxn4)

463 Nood - huwhites cannot be "non-binary".

Posted by: Thrawn at August 05, 2022 01:07 PM (Rl7KJ)

464 Wait, its 2020 so now Karl Marx was right?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2022 01:02 PM (Ivdso)
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Marx was right about a number of things. He just was WAY WRONG about any solution to any problem he saw.

He correctly foresaw that the rich (Capitalist) would squeeze out the poorer people in getting representation in the media and in the government. It's one of the reasons he said that "true democracy" is not possible without socialism. He just forgot to mention that the really censorious would be ideologists who take their cue from Marx.

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2022 01:08 PM (krQz2)

465 22 13 I NOODed
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2022 12:06 PM (ynpvh)

I NOODlum'd before you.

Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:07 PM (Zz0t1)

That may be so, but I'm not wearing pants.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at August 05, 2022 12:08 PM (ynpvh)
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I can see that.

Posted by: Superman flying somewhere over California at August 05, 2022 01:08 PM (qfLjt)

466 Also, Marx had no idea about how economies work.

Flat out, NONE.

Posted by: Axeman at August 05, 2022 01:08 PM (krQz2)

467 458 That's interesting.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 01:05 PM (LvTSG)

Th D primaries were snoozefests. I don’t think it means much. The side with the high profile battles will always outdraw the other side.
Posted by: Joe Xiden at August 05, 2022 01:07 PM (OalnH)

==========

I'm suspect that primary totals aren't the most predictive things towards general elections, but it remains interesting.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, navigating the destiny machine with Fritz Lang at August 05, 2022 01:08 PM (LvTSG)

468 Methinks that the Soros DA has some interesting documents in his office.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 05, 2022 12:51 PM (I2/tG)

I'm betting the shredders have been glowing red since the order was made yesterday.....
Posted by: Sponge - F*ck Joe Biden at August 05, 2022 12:53 PM (Zz0t1)
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You wouldn't release an executive order like that unless the Sheriff was about to knock on the office door...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at August 05, 2022 01:08 PM (YIVH2)

469 Suspended activist FL prosecutor Warren vows to continue doing his job as prosecutor.

https://bit.ly/3bz8VY4

I look forward to this clown trying to prosecute a case from outside the courthouse.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 05, 2022 01:07 PM (eyxn4)

In fairness, he apparently thought his job was to not prosecute cases anyway.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at August 05, 2022 01:08 PM (BgzxT)

470 So liberals and the federal reserve (BIRM) caused inflation with stupid-low interest and stupid-high spending.

Then the fed raised interest rates to reign in inflation after it busted all kinds of records.

And now Brandon is going to spend another nearly trillion bucks.

It's as if two dumbasses started a five alarm fire, then dumbass #1 has second thoughts so he tries to piss on it to put it out, while dumbass #2 says "Let me help!" while pouring gasoline all over the place.

Posted by: NJ Class Traitor at August 05, 2022 01:09 PM (c1efv)

471 435 Devastating car crash in Los Angeles yesterday. A Mercedes went thought an intersection like a missile.
........

and it wasn't even a traffic circle.
Too soon?

Posted by: wth at August 05, 2022 01:09 PM (v0R5T)

472 416 Amazing to see how many posters in here are siding with the Democrat Underground and Karl Marx RE: businesses owners. I guess all that economic understanding and history goes out the window when you don't like someone personally or their politics.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 05, 2022 12:59 PM (Ivdso)
__________________

I think its the multi-national businesses taking advantage of USA's legal system while f-ing over the average american can get folks to start re-thinking their positions. I don't think this ire is directed at small and medium size businesses.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at August 05, 2022 01:11 PM (fs1hN)

473 Devastating car crash in Los Angeles yesterday. A Mercedes went thought an intersection like a missile.

youtube.com/watch?v=cUt0_YtYplY
youtube.com/watch?v=tg7v-G-SdV8

Go ahead and ban guns. Nobody could possibly hurt anybody anymore.
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe

Even Grand Theft Auto would think that's ridiculous.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now Is the Summer of Our Discontent n at August 05, 2022 01:12 PM (FVME7)

474 Amazing to see how many posters in here are siding with the Democrat Underground and Karl Marx RE: businesses owners. I guess all that economic understanding and history goes out the window when you don't like someone personally or their politics.
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We had that debate.
We-- the free market--lost.
Business chose to side with the left, they can die by the left-- I'm not going to save them to avoid being slurred with "You're a marxist!"

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at August 05, 2022 01:12 PM (Zf0+a)

475 Gropey Joe is in isolation because he's hiding from the disaster that his Administration has become. That fucking old addle-pated fool is in the fake White House, behind his fake children's oval office desk signing bills like a hero because that's all he has left. Can he do it for 2 more years? God help us!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at August 05, 2022 01:13 PM (WHt4f)

476 Joe “necrophiliac “ Manchin stuck his magic wand into the dead bill and brought it back to life. The grift has again risen from the dead.

Posted by: TaliBob self radicalized at August 05, 2022 01:14 PM (uN6X9)

477 About those IOUs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFA3qibwCTo

Posted by: EW at August 05, 2022 01:15 PM (oZ4sB)

478 51 Does this keep the SALT tax caps in place?

Posted by: Inogame, non alius regit at August 05, 2022 12:11 PM (53oGX)
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What! ... there's a tax on salt now?
How about pepper or cayenne?
Sheesh. Bloody government!

Posted by: Ciampino - btter not increase the tax on coffee at August 05, 2022 01:17 PM (qfLjt)

479 @474 People's Hippo Voice-Correct. Who do people think is going to control our social credit scores that are certainly coming down the pike(?) Corporations. They endorse, fund, have and will be the enforcers of this with the governments blessing.

Well put, they've sided with the left, they can die by the left.

Posted by: JROD at August 05, 2022 01:18 PM (0jZnq)

480 The government is a morbidly obese entity that thinks all of its ills and pains can be solved by eating more.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at August 05, 2022 12:43 PM (EGSGm)
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^^^THIS^^^
Delusions work on a lot of levels.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 05, 2022 01:18 PM (MIKMs)

481 He wouldn't know the truth if it finger fucked him in the mangina.
Posted by: Sponge

I want this chiseled across Slowtard's marker...

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at August 05, 2022 01:21 PM (dG/j3)

482 Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at August 05, 2022 01:02 PM (MFZ8i)
*******
Wow. That was horrific.

Posted by: redridinghood at August 05, 2022 01:24 PM (NpAcC)

483 I get paid over $85 per hour working from home with 2 kids at home. I never thought I'd be able to do it but my best friend earns over 10k a month doing this and she convinced me to try. The potential with this is endless.
Here's what I've been doing... www.salarycash1.com

Posted by: Sarah at August 05, 2022 01:25 PM (Sp8jq)

484 GaahTrash

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 05, 2022 01:34 PM (89T5c)

485 cart horse, etc. but what's to be done about both the Mcs'? Nothing changes unless big Kev and the turtle are cast aside.

Remember 'repeal and replace'?

Soon:
3am swat raids by the IRS -- guns a-blazin'

burn.salt.scatter...

Posted by: micky at August 05, 2022 02:16 PM (3byMq)

486 Who do you know has read this bill or understands it? Democracy is a mockery in the USA. You can't even reach your Congressman.

Posted by: Obama's boyfriend at August 05, 2022 02:27 PM (EcD5Y)

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