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Sunday Morning Book Thread - 07-17-2022 ["Perfessor" Squirrel]

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Welcome to the prestigious, internationally acclaimed, stately, and illustrious Sunday Morning Book Thread! The place where all readers are welcome, regardless of whatever guilty pleasure we feel like reading (civilization is overrated...). Here is where we can discuss, argue, bicker, quibble, consider, debate, confabulate, converse, and jaw about our latest fancy in reading material, even if it's nothing more than your tax return. As always, pants are required, especially if you are wearing these pants (now with extra Val-U-Rite!)...

So relax, find yourself a warm kitty (or warm puppy--I won't judge) to curl up in your lap, twist the lid off a jar of marmalade, and crack open a new book. What are YOU reading this fine morning?

PIC NOTE

This is the Central Library of the National Autonomous University of Mexico. It's fairly large, holding almost 1.5 million volumes, along with over 300,000 journal and magazine issues and over half a million theses. each of the walls of the exterior represents aspects of Mexico's history, from pre-Columbian times to the modern day. In a weird sort of way, the library exterior is itself a book, as anyone who understands the "code" can read the history of Mexico on its walls. It may not be everyone's cup of tea, but it's certainly eye-catching

HOW TO BE A BETTER READER...

Many of us who read the Sunday Morning Book Thread are "experts" in reading. We don't think too much about it and we can plow through several books a week when we put our minds to it. However, not everyone reads at that level, and there are people out there that would like to improve their reading capabilities, but are not quite sure where to start. Or maybe you are someone who doesn't much care for reading, but would like to learn how to enjoy it.

With that in mind, here are some videos that might inspire you or someone you know to pick up more books and start reading!

Comment: A few excellent tips to help you improve your reading. Make small goals for continuous improvement. Pair your reading activity with something else that you enjoy (like exercise or watching television) so that you start to associate reading with something pleasurable. (NOTE: This is the same technique used to train animals to do something they don't always enjoy!)

Comment: Reading should not be a competition against other readers. Instead, it should be a competition against yourself to improve your mind. Through the Sunday Morning Book Thread recommendations, I have pushed myself to try different books, which is excellent. That's one reason why I created a Libib section for Moron Recommendations, so everyone would have an accessible catalog of different books from the Horde that would present new and interesting reading opportunities.

Comment: Setting aside deliberate time for reading, making an appointment is good advice. Many people do the same for their regular physical exercise routine. Why not do the same for mental exercise? Chunking, especially for non-fiction, is also excellent advice. There's a reason why most non-fiction books have subsections within each chapter and it's for exactly that reason--breaking up the information into more manageable chunks of information. Cognitive research is pretty clear that we need time to process new information and form long-term connections in our memory. So read a section, take a break, and then THINK about what you read.

What other tips and tricks can the Horde recommend for improving one's reading skills?!

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BOOKS BY MORONS

No Books by Morons this week...Y'all must be on summer vacation this week...

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MORON RECOMMENDATIONS


The feature on short stories a few weeks back inspired me to finally buy Evelyn Waugh's shorter works. The collection I picked up spans his career, from the Smart Set of the 1930s into the 60s.

While I've been sharply limiting my reading to China in a desperate effort to finish my book, I did indulge my curiosity to read "Basil Seal Rides Again."

Basil Seal is one of Waugh's wonderfully amusing characters, an anti-hero if there ever was one. A total rake, he is the main character in a couple of the Smart Set books but always seems to be lurking in the background. Anyhow, we last saw him in Put Out More Flags (in which the Smart Set goes to war) which was written around 1941. Seal manages to land a gig identifying homes for evacuees and he comes across the three worst children in England.

Chronically short of money, he comes up with the idea of forcing householders to bribe him to avoid placing the children with them.

Anyway, the short story is set years later and all I'm going to say is that Waugh is amazing. When I got to the "twist" at the end, I was weeping with laughter.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 10, 2022 09:25 AM (llXky)

Comment: OK, I think I'm going to have to track down a copy of this story because it does sound highly amusing! Fortunately, I have direct access to an entire university library system, so this should be fairly easy for me to do...stay tuned for my own update!

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On a lighter note, The Comfort Crisis was a great non fiction read on bettering yourself. The author wrote for Mens Health and Outside. He explores how we as a society have become soft- and how people need to go on hard journeys and be physically uncomfortable to regain strength and mental fortitude. Highly recommend. Inspired me to pick up my old rucksack and start moving around with it again.

Posted by: Secret Squirrel, author of the military SCI FI series Outward Frontier on AMAZON at July 10, 2022 09:26 AM (jQkkr)

Comment: There's a lot to be said for this. About a decade or so ago I went on a fishing trip in Canada. Part of the reason why I went was to push myself a little. We were out in the middle of nowhwere, at least 100 miles from the nearest outpost of civilization. Just three men surviving on our own for a week. And naturally there was a blizzard our first day. For a time, I wasn't quite sure I would make it out of there. But we survived and had a great time.

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Non fiction: From Strength to Strength by Brooks. About goals as you grow older and can't do the work that you once did either mentally or physically. What comes next?

David Page Coffin's Shirtmaking as I'm working on making some clothes. I never sewed anything in my life other than the occasional button but stumbled into some antique sewing machines (treadle powered not electric) and am now trying to learn to sew, just for fun and something to do.

Posted by: Heresolong at July 10, 2022 10:17 AM (/tYLr)

Comment: I think I've only sewed maybe one or two buttons in my life, though I do remember learning how a long time ago. I did take a home ec class in junior high school where we did a bit of sewing. But that's one of the great things about books...there's just so much to learn. I picked up a few books on sleight of hand tricks not too long ago because that's something that's always interested me. Maybe I'll learn a trick or two for the TXMOME...

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The book and author that got me started on a lifetime of reading was The Secret Sea by Robb White. The story concerns a young naval officer wounded at the Battle Off Samar (I didn't realize which battle at the time but now it's obvious) and invalided out of the service. Meanwhile, his kid brother is injured and needs expensive care but there's no money. Back when he was still in the Navy, he had been a part of field testing a new sonar set in the Caribbean and came across a suspicious wreck on the bottom and rescued a Spanish sailor, who soon died, clutching an old ship's log describing the last voyage of a Spanish treasure galleon. So he teams up with spunky street kid and goes treasure hunting. But he has competition, an evil guy in a black ship who had sunk the ship of the Spaniard who he had rescued but who had soon died.

I got this book in the Scholastic Reading program through the school. The schools wouldn't touch this book today; it has unfavorable things to say about people of color yellow and features violence and torture not to mention it drips with toxic masculinity. White wrote a metric shit ton of books usually involving sea. Ironically, the only of his books still in print, as far as I know, is about the desser, Deathwatch. Deathwatch has twice been made into movies, neither particularly good. All of his books are about young men who with grit and determination overcome the odds to defeat evil.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 10, 2022 10:26 AM (FVME7)

Comment: Sounds like a fun adventure story. Too bad it probably won't be turned into a watchable television series on Netflix or Amazon Prime, though. I'm sure the problematic elements could be tweaked with good writing, but we don't have that in Hollywood anymore. They'd tweak it far too much in the "woke" direction...

More Moron-recommended reading material can be found HERE! (286 Moron-recommended books so far!)

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WHAT I'VE BEEN READING THIS PAST WEEK:


  • Monster Hunter Vendetta by Larry Correia -- Pretty fun story. Though the ending of this one included a bit of deus ex machina (as did the ending of the first story). But still quite enjoyable despite some flaws.

  • Monster Hunter Alpha by Larry Correia -- Werewolves galore! Not quite as good as the first two in the series, but still entertaining.

That's about all I have for this week. Thank you for all of your kind words regarding my Sunday Morning Book Thread. This is a very special place. You are very special people (in all the best ways!). The kindness, generosity, and wisdom of the Moron Horde knows no bounds. Let's keep reading!

If you have any suggestions for improvement, reading recommendations, or writing projects that you'd like to see on the Sunday Morning Book Thread, you can send them to perfessor dot squirrel at-sign gmail dot com. Your feedback is always appreciated! You can also take a virtual tour of OUR library at libib.com/u/perfessorsquirrel. Since I added sections for AoSHQ, I now consider it OUR library, rather than my own personal fiefdom...

PREVIOUS SUNDAY MORNING BOOK THREAD - 07-03-22 (hat tip: vmom stabby stabby stabamillion) (NOTE: Do NOT comment on old threads!)

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("Huggy" Squirrel is ready for the
zombie / vampire / werewolf Apocalypse!)

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1 As far as graffiti goes, what's painted on that building isn't too bad.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 17, 2022 09:00 AM (Msys3)

2 Seconded!

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 17, 2022 09:01 AM (Y+l9t)

3 Tolle Lege
But still got nothing new. Might look into EBook today

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2022 09:01 AM (2JoB8)

4 Granddaughters coming here soon so had to get on the board.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 17, 2022 09:02 AM (Y+l9t)

5 The little library we've been working on was stocked and placed into the 'forest' next to the house this week for the neighborhood littles. They are thrilled and have been seen sitting for hours on the maple slab bench I constructed in front of the box just lazing the summer away.

Mission accomplished.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 17, 2022 09:02 AM (Msys3)

6 morning

Posted by: CN at July 17, 2022 09:02 AM (ONvIw)

7 What a beautiful library.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 17, 2022 09:03 AM (45fpk)

8 The little library we've been working on was stocked and placed into the 'forest' next to the house this week for the neighborhood littles. They are thrilled and have been seen sitting for hours on the maple slab bench I constructed in front of the box just lazing the summer away.

Mission accomplished.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 17, 2022 09:02 AM (Msys3)
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That sounds awesome! Can you send me a pic? (email in my nic)

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2022 09:04 AM (K5n5d)

9
Allow me to "translate / read" the four walls:

There were a whole bunches of us here
Then the Spaniards came with their diseases
Now it's drug cartels everywhere you look
Our forwarding addresses are in the United States

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at July 17, 2022 09:05 AM (ZvxPV)

10 Grab a couple of tacos and twist the lid off a jar of marmalade flavored white lightning.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 17, 2022 09:05 AM (0ocXn)

11 Working on money pit

no books this week

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 17, 2022 09:06 AM (ex2Cx)

12
The little libraries in our neighborhood and at one of the nearby parks were favorite places to go visit for our grandkids during COOF DAZE.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at July 17, 2022 09:07 AM (ZvxPV)

13 Re-read A Moveable Feast. I read it for the first time as a teen. It's better as adult who enjoys looking back. My only big problem with it is his hatred for Zelda. Without her, and her diaries and turns of phrase, his career would probably have been less, not more.

I also went back and looked over some of the descriptions and more philosophical passages in Of Time and the River. Like many old pieces, it has its faults and would probably be excoriated by modern reviewers. I love it anyway.

Posted by: CN at July 17, 2022 09:07 AM (ONvIw)

14 Did not get a lot of reading done this week as I got caught up in two excellent TV series but both based on books.
The Terminal List on Prime based on the book of the same title by Jack Carris outstanding. Completely non woke and follows the book. Rad an article about how Jack Carr did a cameo that was an integral part of the story.
Second one was The Stranger based on a book by Harlan Coban. British on Netflix. Really excellent mystery with several twists and turns and a surprise ending.
Both highly recommended.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at July 17, 2022 09:08 AM (Y+l9t)

15 I just finished listening to How to Read a Book by Mortimer Adler.
I know, listening to a book about how to read a book is kind of weird.
If you follow Adler's recommendations you will certainly read with greater depth and understanding. I do wonder if that approach to reading may take a little bit of the pleasure out of it.
One tip I'm following is always reading with a pen or highlighter in hand as a way of mentally engaging more fully with the material.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 17, 2022 09:09 AM (eGTCV)

16 Once again, I tried to read a Margery Allingham crime novel. She is often mentioned as one of the great authors of the Golden Age of British detective writing, dominated by four female authors who have become known as the Queens of Crime: Agatha Christie, Dorothy L. Sayers, Margery Allingham, and Josephine Tey.


Try as I might, I cannot seem to get into her Campion series. I must be missing something.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 17, 2022 09:09 AM (45fpk)

17 Library building has a Diego Rivera vibe

Posted by: CN at July 17, 2022 09:10 AM (ONvIw)

18 Every book in that Mexican library is as unique as the breakfast tacos in the bogeda outside the front door!

Posted by: Jill Biden at July 17, 2022 09:10 AM (PiwSw)

19 Sure Perfessor! Lemme see if I have one.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 17, 2022 09:10 AM (Msys3)

20 Professor I sent my moron book on Friday. Maybe it was filtered? Ironic, as the book villain is a sentient spam filter.

Posted by: Motionview, a National Divorcee at July 17, 2022 09:11 AM (Lg6Bd)

21 I finally finished a book I had set aside a couple of weeks ago. It's called _The Magic Flute Unveiled_ and it's a reprint of a work by a French mid-century musicologist. This edition is from a woo-woo publisher ("Inner Traditions Press") and at first I wasn't sure if it was hippie New Age mystic bullshit, or academic musicological bullshit. Eventually I determined it was the latter.

What it's about is the Masonic symbolism in Magic Flute, which is pretty much a "no-shit Sherlock" revelation, but the author goes into how even the music apparently encodes Masonic stuff. Which, as I said, may be bullshit, but it's tenured bullshit.

Anyway, I'm keeping it around for research purposes, but it's not a fun read.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 17, 2022 09:11 AM (QZxDR)

22 I like that library; has a Predator Meets Azteka vibe.

https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/unam-central-library

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Analog Hipster at July 17, 2022 09:11 AM (Dc2NZ)

23 I am reading a book on email marketing for my new biz!

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 17, 2022 09:12 AM (ex2Cx)

24 I'm reading a collection of short stories called "The Overneath", by Peter S. Beagle, who of course wrote "The Last Unicorn". Herein we revisit one of my favorite characters from fantasy, Schmendrick the Magician, being fobbed off on Nikos the wizard by his disappointed father: "Useless for my trade -- I'm a cooper -- useless for any of his uncles', so finally figured he might as well go for a wizard. Nothing left after that but a highwayman, and the booby'd never even learn to yell "Stand and Deliver!" What's your prentice fee, sir? Busy man."

Schmendrick appears again in another story as a young man, graduated from Nikos' instruction and venturing out into the wide world, doing odd jobs as a "wizardlet" and becoming a modest success until he tackles something that he cannot control. Shades of Ged from Earthsea.

I like the fantastic mixed with the practical in Beagle's fantasy, just like the mundane and magical stew in John Bellairs' Prospero stories.

Here's a clip from the quite nice adaption of "The Last Unicorn":

https://tinyurl.com/ye4rxbf6

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Analog Hipster at July 17, 2022 09:14 AM (Dc2NZ)

25 I am reading a book on email marketing for my new biz!

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 17, 2022 09:12 AM (ex2Cx)


A new business venture? Best wishes!

Posted by: grammie winger at July 17, 2022 09:14 AM (45fpk)

26 Sorry no, that was me. Sent to wrong Gmail account. Did not bounce, so some other perfessor is likely wondering what the hell is going on. Will resend

Posted by: Motionview, a National Divorcee at July 17, 2022 09:14 AM (Lg6Bd)

27 Great job, as per usual, perfessor.

I'm just about done with "Bleak House" by Mr. Dickens.

Most surprising thing about the book: The level of literacy. I find it interesting the book is written to such a high level, considering universal literacy didn't really exist when Dickens was writing.

In the years since "Bleak House" was written, we gone from limited literacy to universal illiteracy.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 17, 2022 09:15 AM (5pTK/)

28 Sir Kenneth Strong achieved high rank, as the title of his memoirs, "Intelligence at the Top: The Recollections of a British Intelligence Officer," attests. He became the chief intelligence officer for the Allies in northern Africa following the setback in the Kasserine Pass. (He later became chief of intelligence for Allied forces in Europe.) I'm in the chapter in which he recounts his part -- with U.S. Gen. Bedell Smith -- in the negotiations that led to the signing of the armistice with Italy.

My knowledge about the invasion of Sicily is minimal. Now, however, I know the attack was on the island's southeastern coast. A longtime Risk player, I had assumed it would be the area that was closest to North Africa. Of course, the enemy would have expected that.

I had to make a hard decision this past weekend. While going through shelves in Dad's house, I came across four reprints (in good condition) of Mr. Moto stories -- and left them there. My TBR list is so long already, and I keep adding to it. But now I know of them, and someday I'll bring them into this house.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 17, 2022 09:15 AM (Om/di)

29 Apart from that, reading "The White Dragon" from Anne McCaffrey's Pern series.

Haven't read fantasy in a while and it's a nice diversion from all the SF.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Analog Hipster at July 17, 2022 09:15 AM (Dc2NZ)

30 That's a great piece of fiction there, Sarah.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 17, 2022 09:17 AM (45fpk)

31 Hot Coffee!!!...SuperEgo!!!

Posted by: Qmark at July 17, 2022 09:17 AM (emnp2)

32 How we have fallen from the era of Lace Wigs and Machines For Sale. Sad.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Analog Hipster at July 17, 2022 09:17 AM (Dc2NZ)

33 Still reading the western collection. Moving neighbor gave me another Hoppy book. Trail Dust. Haven't started reading yet. Still plugging along on novella.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 17, 2022 09:17 AM (7bRMQ)

34 Time for pancakes.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Analog Hipster at July 17, 2022 09:17 AM (Dc2NZ)

35 Nice Pants!

The mexicans need to add a new facade to their lieberry showing all the father rapers and mother killers streaming norte across the border in the Reconquista.

The Squirrel's pimp hand is packing heat.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 17, 2022 09:18 AM (R/m4+)

36 I loved Machines for Sale.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 17, 2022 09:18 AM (45fpk)

37 Professor I sent my moron book on Friday. Maybe it was filtered? Ironic, as the book villain is a sentient spam filter.
Posted by: Motionview, a National Divorcee at July 17, 2022 09:11 AM (Lg6Bd)
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I just now received it! I'll make sure to include it in next week's Thread!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2022 09:18 AM (K5n5d)

38 16. Did you ever watch the series, Campion? That might be a good catalyst. An older series, but pretty good.

Posted by: CN at July 17, 2022 09:18 AM (ONvIw)

39 The Magic Flute Unveiled

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The Magic Flute is, for me, similar to Shakespeare's The Tempest in that avoided both because they were about magic anf faireys and stuff rather than more more manly stuff like fighting, beheadings and whatnot but when I finally saw them, I quite enjoyed them.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 17, 2022 09:18 AM (FVME7)

40 Did you ever watch the series, Campion? That might be a good catalyst. An older series, but pretty good.

Posted by: CN at July 17, 2022 09:18 AM (ONvIw)


No - I didn't know there was a series. I'll have to look for it, maybe on BritBox.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 17, 2022 09:20 AM (45fpk)

41 24. Schmendrick? Yiddish for fool.

Posted by: CN at July 17, 2022 09:20 AM (ONvIw)

42 Thanks perfessor. Marketing 101: send emails to the people you are trying to communicate with, not random strangers.

Posted by: Motionview, a National Divorcee at July 17, 2022 09:20 AM (Lg6Bd)

43 Hi grammie!

Sarah is boring, though. I'd much prefer Mr. Umabwe from Nigeria post something about the millions he's got and his willingness to pay a substantial sum if one of us would be so kind as to supply a bank account number so the funds could be safely and quietly transferred.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 17, 2022 09:21 AM (5pTK/)

44 blake - yeah, Sarah has to spice it up a bit to play in this sandbox.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 17, 2022 09:22 AM (45fpk)

45 Those pants are fine. I would wear them to show off my booty when I interview Kardashians.

Posted by: HRC at July 17, 2022 09:22 AM (sn5EN)

46 @5 --

Excellent, tonypete!

We have one of those two blocks from the house. It's contents are mostly bodice-rippers and inspirational volumes, but I occasionally snag books of interest to me.

Case in point: This past week I found a book by George Burns, writing about his showbiz buddies. I was going to move it high on the TBR list, then thought it would be better to hand it to Dad, who is of the generation that would be more familiar with those guys.

I'll get it eventually.

I think the title was "All My Best Friends."

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 17, 2022 09:22 AM (Om/di)

47 Sarah is boring, though. I'd much prefer Mr. Umabwe from Nigeria post something about the millions he's got and his willingness to pay a substantial sum if one of us would be so kind as to supply a bank account number so the funds could be safely and quietly transferred.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 17, 2022 09:21 AM (5pTK/)

Remain Blessed!

Posted by: Mr. Umabwe, Democratic People's Republic Of Uganda at July 17, 2022 09:22 AM (R/m4+)

48 If you've ever visited Mexico City, there would be no doubt as to the location of said Library....thx Squirrel good memories!!!

Posted by: Qmark at July 17, 2022 09:22 AM (emnp2)

49 Just this very moment I began to read Paradise Lost in my Kindle app.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 17, 2022 09:23 AM (eGTCV)

50
I finished reading Pierre Berton's "The Klondike Fever: The Life and Death of the Last Great Gold Rush". I obtained it in order to learn something about the event because every year scout troops conduct "gold rush" derbies (inter-patrol competitions) during winter camping trips. I learned a lot of new things.
By the time news of the discovery reached the outside world, pretty much all of the sites of the gold had been claimed by those already in Alaska or the Canadian North. All the rushees got was poorer, mostly, or dead.
Berton devoted several chapters to the different routes that folks took to the Yukon. The Dyea and Skagway entry ports are best known; tjose who took other routes arrived usually as the rush was ending. Beasts of burden were cruelly used and died by the score to the point where the elevations of trails increased over the winter months from their snow encased carcasses.
Berton covers much more, with many anecdotes (he grew up there). This is worth reading.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at July 17, 2022 09:23 AM (ZvxPV)

51 I am reading a book on email marketing for my new biz!

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 17, 2022 09:12 AM (ex2Cx)
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I'm sure Sarah will share all of her secrets for the low, low price of just $92/hour!

(same as in town)

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2022 09:23 AM (K5n5d)

52 Yeah, I love reading but I read too slowly. Puts me off from some of the Great Works.

Posted by: JM in Florida at July 17, 2022 09:24 AM (8XGJi)

53 Some nuke Sarah off the planet please?
Xhe is starting to annoy me and I don't get annoyed easily

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2022 09:25 AM (2JoB8)

54 Alan Moore described the history of Mexico in a Miracleman comic as "blood and dust."

Autocorrect tried to make the word "Miracle-Gro." Always proofread, then post.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 17, 2022 09:26 AM (Om/di)

55 Yeah, I love reading but I read too slowly.


I read too fast, skimming over details that are important later in the story, or prose that is elegantly written. I read on the cheap. I blame the internet.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 17, 2022 09:26 AM (45fpk)

56 A new business venture? Best wishes!
Posted by: grammie winger at July 17, 2022 09:14 AM (45fpk)

thank you

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 17, 2022 09:26 AM (ex2Cx)

57 I've got a new word. "hebdomecontacometæ". I'm not sure how to say it or what it means but it's a wonderful word.

Posted by: fd at July 17, 2022 09:29 AM (sn5EN)

58 Autocorrect is Santa.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 17, 2022 09:30 AM (FVME7)

59 I've got a new word. "hebdomecontacometæ". I'm not sure how to say it or what it means but it's a wonderful word.

Posted by: fd at July 17, 2022 09:29 AM (sn5EN)


I think it's a cough medicine.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 17, 2022 09:30 AM (45fpk)

60 I would have a really hard time limiting myself to a book a week...I read more like 4-5 books a week. I'm rereading Brother Cadfael right now (thanks to the moron who rec'd), and I can get through one of those in a couple hours, so I've been reading 1-3 of them a day (I was sick all week, so I had plenty of time to read).

I am a fan of the Random Book feature on Project Gutenberg. Earlier this week, or maybe it was last week, it turned up The Caged Lion by Charlotte Yonge, a historical fiction novel about James II of Scotland. It was pretty entertaining, and the main thing that struck me was how complex the writing was. Most modern people accustomed to Twitter and Instagram would really struggle with this book.

Random Book also turned up a book called "An Inquiry into the Permanent Causes of the Decline and Fall of Powerful and Wealthy Nations", which I haven't read yet (too sick to really focus) but which promises to be timely.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 17, 2022 09:31 AM (8548M)

61 Read "The Like Switch" about techniques to build rapport and relationships. Good methods and examples, especially helpful for us low-EQ types. I've tried some, and they do work.

By former FBI agent Jack Shaefer

Posted by: JM in Florida at July 17, 2022 09:31 AM (l/90o)

62 I'm sure Sarah will share all of her secrets for the low, low price of just $92/hour!

(same as in town)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2022 09:23 AM (K5n5d)

The author is from Aussieland and he spelling freak me out some times.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 17, 2022 09:33 AM (ex2Cx)

63 36 I loved Machines for Sale.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 17, 2022 09:18 AM (45fpk)


Seconded. There were some interesting little stories buried in the various machines for sale. I admit to reading every single one that showed up.

Posted by: Moki at July 17, 2022 09:33 AM (JrN/x)

64 That Pliny the Elder! Read what he has to report on Æthiopia:

https://tinyurl.com/4nbk86te

Indeed, it is reported that in the interior, on the eastern side, there is a people that have no noses, the whole face presenting a plane surface; that others again are destitute of the upper lip, and others are without tongues. Others again, have the mouth grown together, and being destitute of nostrils, breathe through one passage only, imbibing their drink through it by means of the hollow stalk of the oat, which there grows spontaneously and supplies them with its grain for food. Some of these nations have to employ gestures by nodding the head and moving the limbs, instead of speech.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Analog Hipster at July 17, 2022 09:34 AM (Dc2NZ)

65 Hi Moki! How are you doing?

Posted by: grammie winger at July 17, 2022 09:34 AM (45fpk)

66 hiya

Posted by: JT at July 17, 2022 09:35 AM (T4tVD)

67 Also been watching The Expanse and planning to get the books once my fun money budget recovers from recent purchases. Has anyone read them? Is the woke quotient low enough for enjoyment?

(Side note, I absolutely LOVE the Belter creole in that series. It's such a brilliant bit of worldbuilding.)

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 17, 2022 09:36 AM (8548M)

68 Hiya JT

Posted by: grammie winger at July 17, 2022 09:36 AM (45fpk)

69 Tolle Lege
But still got nothing new. Might look into EBook today
Posted by: Skip

Eb wrote a book ?

Posted by: JT at July 17, 2022 09:36 AM (T4tVD)

70 Dr. Leah Stokes@leahstokes
Hold your children close tonight. Leave some water out for the birds. And make a plan to rip out your gas furnace.

The climate crisis is getting worse, and thanks to Manchin, Congress is one vote short of saving us. We're going to have to save ourselves.

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Who says they don't write tragicomedy horror like they used to?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 17, 2022 09:36 AM (FVME7)

71 One of the places Pliny names that really intrigues me is "Maryandini".

Posted by: fd at July 17, 2022 09:37 AM (sn5EN)

72 Good morning, Perfessor Squirrel, Horde

Posted by: callsign claymore at July 17, 2022 09:37 AM (mP5A+)

73 Some nuke Sarah off the planet please?
Xhe is starting to annoy me and I don't get annoyed easily
Posted by: Skip

Skip has a hammer.

Posted by: JT at July 17, 2022 09:38 AM (T4tVD)

74 Hiya Grammie !

Posted by: JT at July 17, 2022 09:38 AM (T4tVD)

75 The Magic Flute is, for me, similar to Shakespeare's The Tempest in that avoided both because they were about magic anf faireys and stuff rather than more more manly stuff like fighting, beheadings and whatnot but when I finally saw them, I quite enjoyed them.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 17, 2022 09:18 AM (FVME7)

"The Tempest" is one my favorite Shakespeare plays for several reasons; one is that at the end (and being that this might be the last play he wrote) Prospero appears to become Shakespeare himself, saying goodbye to his life and his craft; and also that The Tempest was the basis of Forbidden Planet, which was the basis of Star Trek. So there, Shakespeare inspired Star Trek. Nyah!

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2022 09:39 AM (q3gwH)

76 I also recently reread Heidi, in English this time. I haven't read an English translation that I feel really captures the German. One of these days, I'll arrogantly decide my German is good enough and attempt my own translation. It should be an entertaining exercise in failure (my German is NOT good enough).

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 17, 2022 09:40 AM (8548M)

77 "there is a people that have no noses, the whole face presenting a plane surface; that others again are destitute of the upper lip, and others are without tongues"
Posted by: All Hail Eris"


That's pretty weird

Posted by: Guy that lays in the shade of his huge single foot at July 17, 2022 09:40 AM (sn5EN)

78 Time for pancakes.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Analog Hipster

Looks around....(maple syrup ?)

Posted by: JT at July 17, 2022 09:42 AM (T4tVD)

79 The Campion series on BBC was excellent. It really highlights Allingham's knack for the varied archetypes of different regions and social classes in England. Campion is a more humorous version of Lord Peter Wimsey by Dorothy Sayers. I would say two of the best stories are The Case of the Late Pig and The Danger Sign. I didn't read the books until getting interested via the BBC shows.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 17, 2022 09:43 AM (I6PuI)

80 Thanks for the Book Thread Perfesser !

Posted by: JT at July 17, 2022 09:43 AM (T4tVD)

81 I didn't read the books until getting interested via the BBC shows.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at July 17, 2022 09:43 AM (I6PuI)


I will look for that.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 17, 2022 09:44 AM (45fpk)

82
The mexicans need to add a new facade to their lieberry showing all the father rapers and mother killers streaming norte across the border in the Reconquista.

___________

I'm told by my betters that Mexico would be Paradise if not for the United States.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 17, 2022 09:44 AM (/U27+)

83 My book club is now reading The Mote in Gods Eye.

It's a great read it is exactly the type of Sci Fi I like. Niven and Pournelle are the kings of hard Sci Fi.

But I read this in high school. And I do not remember a word of it or even a little of the story.

Posted by: blaster at July 17, 2022 09:45 AM (6TxNR)

84 I'm told by my betters that Mexico would be Paradise if not for the United States.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 17, 2022 09:44 AM (/U27+)

Canada would be in real trouble.

Posted by: weirdflunky at July 17, 2022 09:46 AM (cknjq)

85 Read "The Tempest" in college. Enjoyed it. That makes two Shakespeare works I've read. (The other was "MacBeth.")

Watched "Forbidden Planet" a couple of weeks ago. Found it OK; the ending fizzled. The set design and matte paintings were memorable.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 17, 2022 09:46 AM (Om/di)

86
No heavy reading this last week. My brain is run down from irregular hours and too little sleep.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 17, 2022 09:48 AM (/U27+)

87 My parents were readers (Dad still reads multiple books a week in his 80's on his kindle oasis, mom passed) and they successfully got my sister and I hooked at an early age. My wife is not a reader and her parents the same. She loves Jane Austin novels and has read most of those at least. Also, I got her to read Ender's game and a sequel and liked them. But it's difficult to get her to read. I'll see if she will watch the videos here, thank you.

Posted by: SamIam at July 17, 2022 09:49 AM (oasF3)

88 I really like the building

exterior reminds me of a 17th century Brussels historical tapestry

Posted by: REDACTED at July 17, 2022 09:49 AM (us2H3)

89 The mexicans need to add a new facade to their lieberry showing all the father rapers and mother killers streaming norte across the border in the Reconquista.

Yep. It can go next to the Tijuana donkey show mural.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2022 09:49 AM (89T5c)

90 Finally did some real reading this week: "Tides of Empire" by Peter Padfield. A history of naval warfare and trade, for seal really cheap on Amazon. Probably because it was written in the 70's. And you can tell it was written then because in the prologue the author seems to delight in telling the reader that the Portuguese explorers weren't at all heroic, but just a bunch of greedy, violent thugs. But, because it was just the 70's, he doesn't go so far as to say that the Arabs were angels, as they would today...

The author wants to make some sweeping generalizations about land power vs sea power. Namely that land-based powers are naturally inclined to totalitarianism, and that sea-based powers are naturally inclined to freedom. I'm not sure I buy that. Partly because I can't think of any non-European sea powers that were historically free. Maybe Padfield will expand on that when he's done talking about the Portuguese.

(Continued...)

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 17, 2022 09:49 AM (Lhaco)

91 Is there a good book in particular to serve as an introduction to Waugh's work? I keep reading about him in passing and he sounds very interesting, but I never manage to go farther than that.

Posted by: Dr. T at July 17, 2022 09:49 AM (Vgw1E)

92 well we got the best parts of mexico in california, arizona and texas, this is what happens when you have a jackalope like santa ana running the country

Posted by: no 6 at July 17, 2022 09:50 AM (i0Lci)

93 Watched "Forbidden Planet" a couple of weeks ago. Found it OK; the ending fizzled. The set design and matte paintings were memorable.
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 17, 2022 09:46 AM (Om/di)

in an era when most sci-fi was "Commander Cody and his Lost Planet Airmen" (or something like that) it was an incredibly lavish use of F/X. In scenes such as when they are inside the giant Krell Machine, you can see where George Lucas got the inspiration for the interior of the Death Star scenes.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 17, 2022 09:50 AM (q3gwH)

94 "sea-based powers are naturally inclined to freedom."

Because they're into trade, where a bit of freedom makes eveyone better off?

Posted by: Doctor Lecter at July 17, 2022 09:52 AM (i0slg)

95 This "Sarah" seems to have been expunged from the thread. What was the gist of the scam?

At first I thought you were referring to Sarah Hoyt and was disturbed.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 17, 2022 09:52 AM (Om/di)

96 There was a rumor that the next Assassin's Creed would be set in the Aztec empire, which I thought sounded fun, but apparently that's not true. It will be set in ancient Bagdad.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 17, 2022 09:52 AM (FVME7)

97 About reading. And words. I read voraciously when I was young and it really helped my vocabulary. I stopped almost entirely in my 30s. Book club has helped reignite my passion for reading. Maybe I can get off the Internet some. Ahem.

Anyway because I have been reading sra blaster started reading again too. And she said to me that it helps her because it acquaints her with words she doesn't normally encounter. YES exactly I say.

English is her second language. So no matter how smart she is - and she is - she is sometimes adjudged as not so smart because she doesn't have the vocabulary.

Posted by: blaster at July 17, 2022 09:53 AM (6TxNR)

98 Some movies are great when they come out, but then much copied, so they lose their sizzle. The French Connection is an example.

Posted by: Doctor Lecter at July 17, 2022 09:54 AM (i0slg)

99 Just finished reading Atlas Shrugged
Golly, Dagny was a bit of a slut, pounding every industrialist that caught her fancy.
She probably did butt stuff too, because you KNOW Hank Rearden was a freak.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at July 17, 2022 09:54 AM (ufFY8)

100 Is there a good book in particular to serve as an introduction to Waugh's work?


I loved Brideshead Revisited.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 17, 2022 09:54 AM (45fpk)

101 Greetings:

The "listener-supported" "classical" music station out my Frisco Bay way has been going Prog-way the last few years. Not hammer to the head wise, but tappet, tappety, tap wise like with one of those little cobbler hammers. It seems to search out music by certified victimized group members to provide gentle reminders of our forebears perfidies or more modern stuff that drifts a good way from my idea of classical but is demographically progressively well aligned.

Well, if you have gotten through that preamble, it's recent "donation" drive failed miserably in the great tradition of "Get woke. Go broke.".

Posted by: 11B40 at July 17, 2022 09:55 AM (uuklp)

102 (Continued discussion of "Tides of Empire" by Peter Padfield)

So, Padfield's book starts off with the Portuguese movements down Africa, (detouring very close to South America to pick up the proper winds in the southern hemisphere) and into the Indian Ocean. If the book is to be believed, the difference between the European/Portuguese ships and the Arab/Indian ships was....staggering. On their second trip, the Portuguese had a fleet battle against a massive Muslim (Egyptian, I think) fleet, and basically slaughtered them. It was one sided on a Cortez-vs-Aztec level. Kinda shocking, especially since the Indian Ocean exploration is so often ignored in most histories...

Now I need to find a picture book showing and explaining all the details of the European ships and the Indian Ocean ships. That's the constant downside of text-based read-on-a-kindle history books.

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 17, 2022 09:56 AM (Lhaco)

103 Watched "Forbidden Planet" a couple of weeks ago. Found it OK; the ending fizzle

But, Anne Francis in that outfit.

The story was essentially Shakespeare's Tempest.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at July 17, 2022 09:56 AM (ufFY8)

104 @93 --

That was the matte painting I found most memorable. I thought somebody would go over the edge. I would have dropped a rock.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 17, 2022 09:56 AM (Om/di)

105 On this date in 1902, Willis Haviland Carrier completed his design for the modern air conditioner. God bless him. I still remember the day the house where I grew up in Virginia got air conditioning. I was probably about nine years old.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 17, 2022 09:56 AM (ex2Cx)

106 "Forbidden Planet" will always have a place in my heart for those Chesley Bonestell matte paintings, but the real delight is Robbie the Robot's dry humor.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Analog Hipster at July 17, 2022 09:56 AM (Dc2NZ)

107 Back on Mote - it strikes me that the classic Sci Fi authors are probably not gaining new readers. That they are "problematic" in today's culture what with the patriarchy and all.

One day they will be gone.

Posted by: blaster at July 17, 2022 09:57 AM (6TxNR)

108 "sea-based powers are naturally inclined to freedom."

Because they're into trade, where a bit of freedom makes eveyone better off?
Posted by: Doctor Lecter

Also, I suspect, because if things are not to their liking they can get out of Dodge.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 17, 2022 09:58 AM (FVME7)

109 The only thing I have been reading for the past month is a frigging ruler.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2022 09:58 AM (VwHCD)

110 This "Sarah" seems to have been expunged from the thread. What was the gist of the scam?

At first I thought you were referring to Sarah Hoyt and was disturbed.
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 17, 2022 09:52 AM (Om/di)
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She's a spammer that shows up advertising how she can work from home and earn $92/hour. You, too, can do it! I think Pixy has set up a filter to remove her posts now, but we like to make fun of her posts when we see them...

As far as I know, no one has anything negative to say about Sarah Hoyt. I've had the pleasure to correspond with her a bit via email. She's a hoot!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2022 09:59 AM (K5n5d)

111 @ 98 --

"Bullitt" bored me.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 17, 2022 09:59 AM (Om/di)

112 The "listener-supported" "classical" music station out my Frisco Bay way has been going Prog-way the last few years. Not hammer to the head wise, but tappet, tappety, tap wise like with one of those little cobbler hammers. It seems to search out music by certified victimized group members to provide gentle reminders of our forebears perfidies or more modern stuff that drifts a good way from my idea of classical but is demographically progressively well aligned.

Posted by: 11B40 at July 17, 2022 09:55 AM (uuklp)
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Sounds like my Detroit station. The classical hours suffer from "jazz creep" (I'm sure the jazz hours don't have Wagner incursions) and I hear more than I need to of Florence Price and William Grant Still (and I really like Still's works).

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Analog Hipster at July 17, 2022 10:00 AM (Dc2NZ)

113 Lost track of which Sharpe book I am at, thinking of picking that up.

Sarah is running a prostitution ring out of xhe home

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2022 10:01 AM (2JoB8)

114 Nearly half the money raised by Abrams's campaign and leadership committee ($22.7 million) came from donors in three deep-blue states and one liberal territory that wants to be a state but never will: California ($10.2 million), Washington, D.C. ($6.4 million), New York ($3.6 million), and Delaware ($2.5 million).

Any Georgian that votes for her is a complete fucking idgit!

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 17, 2022 10:02 AM (ex2Cx)

115 Grand Rapids public radio station has a good blues program on the weekend evenings. No politics at all, just blues, old and new. The guy (Greg Blubin) has been doing the show for decades.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 17, 2022 10:02 AM (ufFY8)

116 Reading, but slowly and erratically. Halfway through War and Peace (would be finished if I read only that, but just don't seem inclined to spend all reading time on it), and browsing through some Simenon as well.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 17, 2022 10:03 AM (JzDjf)

117 100 Is there a good book in particular to serve as an introduction to Waugh's work?


I loved Brideshead Revisited.Posted by: grammie winger at July 17, 2022 09:54 AM (45fpk)

He has a dark humor book about the funeral industry in Hollywood. Sadly the title escapes but I like that one.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 17, 2022 10:03 AM (eGTCV)

118 The only thing I have been reading for the past month is a frigging ruler.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

Wait til ya see how it ends !

Posted by: JT at July 17, 2022 10:03 AM (T4tVD)

119 Watched "Forbidden Planet" a couple of weeks ago. Found it OK; the ending fizzled. The set design and matte paintings were memorable.
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 17, 2022 09:46 AM (Om/di)


***
Forbidden Planet is a mind-bender of a film. Not only do you have the blueprint for Star Trek almost perfectly laid out, you have sense of wonder and imagination. A vanished alien race who disappeared in a single night; an installation of power 20 miles on a side; an invisible monster that stalks by night -- Aside from the love scenes and the comic stuff with Earl Holliman and Robby the Robot, it has everything.

For instance: We don't know what the Krell looked like. But Morbius suggests we consider that in light of our own functional human doors. You wind up imagining rather low-to-the-ground, crablike beings because of the Krell doorways.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 17, 2022 10:04 AM (c6xtn)

120 Rep. Ruben Gallego (D., Ariz.) accused Tanya Contreras Wheeless, a Hispanic woman running for Congress in Arizona’s fourth district as a Republican, of not being authentically Latina because she took her husband’s last name.

I love minority on minority infighting!

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 17, 2022 10:04 AM (ex2Cx)

121 Good thread, Perfesser! I've always loved reading, Bible and church 3 times a week, Comptons encyclopedia, Life and Look magazines, Readers Digest at home. Mama Eromero made sure we had a good mix of facts/bullshit. This was in the 50s and we lived in a better world than today.

Posted by: Eromero at July 17, 2022 10:04 AM (0OP+5)

122 Any Georgian that votes for her is a complete fucking idgit!
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 17, 2022 10:02 AM (ex2Cx)

Dats Rayciss!

Posted by: Tank Abrams, Fat democrat at July 17, 2022 10:04 AM (R/m4+)

123 English is her second language.

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I had lunch the other day at a restaurant where the waiter struggled with the English language. It made me think of something I was taught back in junior high. Speaking with an accent is not a sign of stupidity but rather the opposite as it indicates the speaker knows more than one language.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 17, 2022 10:05 AM (FVME7)

124 "Willis Haviland Carrier completed his design for the modern air conditioner. "

I'm doing a fun project with web pages for Americans who should be famous but aren't. Carrier is one.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 17, 2022 10:05 AM (i0slg)

125 Sometimes, instead of typing ace.mu.nu into the address bar of my browser, I type it into the duckduckgo.com searchbox.

This is always the first result of that search:

https://ace-o-spades.mu.nu/
April 20, 2014
Sunday Morning Book Thread 04-20-2014: The Day The World Changed Forever [OregonMuse]
—Open Blogger

Have a wonderful Sunday.

Posted by: David Prince at July 17, 2022 10:05 AM (WUxVt)

126 Greetings:

First saw "Forbidden Planet" on B&W TV and that was scary enough. Liked the nice long build to the terror and the conflict between the expert intellectual and the real Americans. A stopping by howdy turned into a good old punitive expedition.

When my father looked over his newspaper for a view of Miss Francis, mother Harummped.

Posted by: 11B40 at July 17, 2022 10:05 AM (uuklp)

127 @110 --

Oh, those. I assume those are all pushing porn. Hell no, I won't click.

One of those bots infests the comment threads of another site to which Sefton links frequently.

I wonder how much current porn performers really make. Not much, I'll bet.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 17, 2022 10:06 AM (Om/di)

128 Some interesting news from the world of comics this week: Eric July (YoungRippa59) is a libertarian youtuber who does a lot of complaining about leftist-propaganda ruining storytelling, particularly in comics. Since nobody was publishing the kind of comics he liked, he decided to publish his own. Earlier this week he opened up his website (The Rippaverse) for pre-orders of his first graphic novel and related paraphernalia.

He hit one million dollars (from over 10,000 orders) in just over a day. He's currently sitting at 2.3 million from 26,000 customers. Either he's got an incredibly loyal audience, or there is a quite a lot of pent-up demand for avowedly non-woke entertainment.

Hopefully the comic itself is good enough to justify the hype.

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 17, 2022 10:06 AM (Lhaco)

129 On this date in 1902, Willis Haviland Carrier completed his design for the modern air conditioner. God bless him. I still remember the day the house where I grew up in Virginia got air conditioning. I was probably about nine years old.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 17, 2022 09:56 AM (ex2Cx)

The genius of Carrier's invention was the eventual ability make it small enough for consumer use. I think without it, the early movie business would not have gained the hold it did on the public - those public venues were too warm in the summer to attend without it.

Posted by: Boswell at July 17, 2022 10:07 AM (+Cgut)

130 I'm doing a fun project with web pages for Americans who should be famous but aren't. Carrier is one.
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 17, 2022 10:05 AM (i0slg)
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Yep, can't beat being a household name!

Posted by: Thomas Crapper at July 17, 2022 10:07 AM (5pTK/)

131 Society used to celebrate the youth overcoming a struggle to become an adult. Okay, mostly boys becoming men. But still. That was the deal: you did something difficult, you overcame it, and you were rewarded with becoming a man and knew you face the hard things and win.

Not now. Now it is trauma, not development. We celebrate the trauma and the damage. Not the overcoming but the victimhood.

sra blaster works for a Giant Corporation and had some management training that talked about "Post Traumatic Growth." She says finally they are recognizing it. No, it's always been that way some are just rediscovering it. Or else finally figuring out that wallowing in trauma is not working.

Posted by: blaster at July 17, 2022 10:07 AM (6TxNR)

132 Actually I found Alpha quite enjoyable. Earl is a fun character that gets a lot more 'screen' time here.

Got out my ERB and started with A Princess of Mars. One of the things that struck me: Boy, we have dumbed down the language. This is pulp, but the vocab is on a level that the the average person today might have issues with.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 17, 2022 10:07 AM (dNqv+)

133 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 17, 2022 10:04 AM (c6xtn)

There is a fair amount of the real evil in you! Your malevolence when brought to life can destroy.

I think the same message needs to be understood by young people. Your good intentions when transformed into real actions can kill and destroy lives and livelihoods.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 17, 2022 10:07 AM (ex2Cx)

134 Reading Improvement: Give them a copy of "The Dictionary of Cultural Literacy", ED Hersch.
Most non-readers, slow readers, infrequent readers lack the vocabulary both literal and contextual to make reading enjoyable and something requiring little struggle/effort. The only real way to build the vocabulary of words and ideas needed to make reading easy/fun...is to Read. Until someone does, their mental palette has too few colors to paint within their mind the tableau the page creates that makes it interesting. Many people only have the "little box" of crayons, and still struggle with coloring book outlines...enjoyable reading requires a much more varied/overlapping/tinted /shaded wash...think watercolor Impressionists rather than graphic plates.(fuck that abstract shit) Most people think in pictures, until words on a page can transmit scenes..they are all just Black/White.
Hersch created the "Dictionary" to overcome that...it makes for Bite Sized reading, that makes further reading easier, comprehensible, each bit of knowledge creates a hook that further knowledge can be hung upon

Posted by: Birddog at July 17, 2022 10:08 AM (uAI4S)

135 I've been following a plan to read through the Bible in a year for possibly 20. Because I read faster than that I've been reading it through in less than a year.
I've made the decision to slow down and think more as I read so I've switched to a two year plan.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 17, 2022 10:08 AM (eGTCV)

136 Working on stuff this week - but am almost finished the Killoyle: An Irish Farce, which came up in the Book Thread last year, and which sat on my TBR pile until the 4th of July, when I took it to Canyon Lake to read (my 10-year old Kindle being in its' death throes). Got at least halfway through it on that day - the footnotes aren't that annoying. The woman sunning on the beach next to me, saw that I was laughing, and asked me what was I reading that was so funny; a passage listing some wholly unappetizing gourmet dishes, and an acerbic comment about them in the footnote. It is a funny book, with a wide range of characters, many of whom are eccentric and oddly sympathetic.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at July 17, 2022 10:09 AM (xnmPy)

137 I wonder how much current porn performers really make. Not much, I'll bet.
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 17, 2022 10:06 AM (Om/di)
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Porshe Carrera claims she made a ton of money in porn, and top flight porn actresses do very well. (the last pics I saw of Ms. Carrara, however, she had a "40 miles of bad road covered by an avalanche" look going on.)

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 17, 2022 10:10 AM (5pTK/)

138 Forbidden Planet -- gotta admit, a line like "What's a bathing suit?" is quite an attention-grabber.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 17, 2022 10:11 AM (JzDjf)

139 On this date in 1902, Willis Haviland Carrier completed his design for the modern air conditioner. God bless him. I still remember the day the house where I grew up in Virginia got air conditioning. I was probably about nine years old.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 17, 2022 09:56 AM (ex2Cx)

That dude belongs on Mt Rushmore

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2022 10:11 AM (VwHCD)

140 ah, the overnight thunder and lightning show has ended and the rain has started!

Woot!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 17, 2022 10:11 AM (5pTK/)

141 24 I'm reading a collection of short stories called "The Overneath", by Peter S. Beagle, who of course wrote "The Last Unicorn". Herein we revisit one of my favorite characters from fantasy, Schmendrick the Magician, being fobbed off on Nikos the wizard by his disappointed father: "Useless for my trade -- I'm a cooper -- useless for any of his uncles', so finally figured he might as well go for a wizard. Nothing left after that but a highwayman, and the booby'd never even learn to yell "Stand and Deliver!" What's your prentice fee, sir? Busy man."

......

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Analog Hipster

I honestly had no idea that "The Last Unicorn" was anything more than a stand-alone story. But now I'm going to humming the movie's themesong for the next hour....

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 17, 2022 10:12 AM (Lhaco)

142 Rereading parts of Empire of Pain, by Patrick Radden Keefe, about the OxyContin fiasco and the mercenary Sackler family. Extremely well-written and interesting.

Posted by: dhmosquito at July 17, 2022 10:12 AM (/iGNv)

143 Hey everyone! Late but I was spending quality time with the youngest - and when you're dealing with teenagers, that doesn't happen often.

Reading: Outside of China, nothing except that I did resort to Tolkien's Unfinished Tales to quiet my mind early in the week. Just pick it up and pick a story and the relaxing world of Middle Earth soothes you to sleep.

Writing: Almost there, dammit! 72,000 words and counting, I'm the middle of Korea so getting close. I figure two chapters to go. Trying to think up a title with a little more urgency.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 10:13 AM (llXky)

144 A game I like to play with my reading friends and family is "if you only read one book by a writer, what should it be." "Moby Dick" for Melville, for instance.

At this point my sister would bristle and say "Benito Cereno," to which she is very partial.

But no, the point of the game is a discussion to determine that writer's signature work, with the most cultural weight. My sister is playing a different game, also fun: "What is my favorite work of that author."

Always ready to attribute nasty motives to another, my sister would say "But you just call *your* favorite the signature work. No necessarily so, say I, who thinks objectivity is a thing. For one, I would say that James Joyce's signature work is "Ulysses." My favorite is "Finnegans Wake." That would be the subject of a long post.

Posted by: Brett at July 17, 2022 10:14 AM (P6pXT)

145 29 Apart from that, reading "The White Dragon" from Anne McCaffrey's Pern series.

Haven't read fantasy in a while and it's a nice diversion from all the SF.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Analog Hipster at July 17, 2022 09:15 AM (Dc2NZ)

Ah, yes, The Dragonriders of Pern series. Classic fantasy! Not a sci-fi trope in sight! (Insert a meme of an Obvious Wink to those who have read the whole series.)

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 17, 2022 10:15 AM (Lhaco)

146 Porshe Carrera claims she made a ton of money in porn, and top flight porn actresses do very well. (the last pics I saw of Ms. Carrara, however, she had a "40 miles of bad road covered by an avalanche" look going on.)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 17, 2022 10:10 AM (5pTK/)

How can they make money with all the free porn on the Internet?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 17, 2022 10:15 AM (eGTCV)

147 @119 --

Judging from the doorways, I imagined the Krell as wormlike.

To bring this back to books, one of the things that hooked me on Keith Laumer's Retief stories was the variety of worlds and inhabitants he created.

Saw a Retief comic once. Its depiction of the Groaci was nothing like what I imagined.

To dive back into CDT archives soon.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 17, 2022 10:15 AM (Om/di)

148 #112 "...The classical hours suffer from "jazz creep" (I'm sure the jazz hours don't have Wagner incursions) and I hear more than I need to of Florence Price and William Grant Still..."

You too, eh? I'm so sick of the constant PC pounding again and again and again on how classical artists of color were dissed in their own time on my own classical station that I'm about five minutes away from just playing classical tapes/CDs, or going to a streaming service. I'd also like to get back every d*mned dollar that I ever pledged to support them.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at July 17, 2022 10:15 AM (xnmPy)

149 Forbidden Planet -- gotta admit, a line like "What's a bathing suit?" is quite an attention-grabber.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 17, 2022


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Robby the Robot, when asked about water: "I rarely use it myself, sir. It promotes rust."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 17, 2022 10:16 AM (c6xtn)

150 How can they make money with all the free porn on the Internet?
Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 17, 2022 10:15 AM (eGTCV)
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To be honest, I really don't know what's going on in the porn industry. I've not looked at that stuff for almost two decades. So, what I know may be long out of date.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 17, 2022 10:16 AM (5pTK/)

151 I had to walk away from a fantasy novel I'd been reading: Inda by Sherwood Smith.

Sherwood has been around a while, never a big name, but she's one of those mid-list writers. She had her biggest stab at fame when writing in collaboration with David Trowbridge. She's a good writer.
She also is a Progressive Feminist and she constructed a perfect Queer Femininity Fantasy for Inda. Now, this wasn't apparent at first, apart from her indulgence in that trope of woman warriors being just as good as men. But by the 3/4 mark, when we learn more about the world we discover that she's written a setting where:
Women can have children without men (a Birthing spell)
Men can have children together.
There is no stigma on homosexuality
There is no rape (magically, the women mages killed off that 'trait)
There's magical birth control
Poop and dead bodies get magically destroyed.
Finally, and what was the straw that broke the camel's back, one of the characters we're supposed to be sympathizing with as a main character, confesses that he's been sexually 'experimenting' with underage boys. This is all depicted as normal, even laudable.
And with that...I was out.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at July 17, 2022 10:17 AM (xcxpd)

152 I think the same message needs to be understood by young people. Your good intentions when transformed into real actions can kill and destroy lives and livelihoods.

Posted by: rhennigantx at July 17, 2022 10:07 AM (ex2Cx)

As long as it destroys the right lives and livelihoods, we're ok with it.

Posted by: Earnest Young Leftists at July 17, 2022 10:18 AM (7bRMQ)

153 Regarding Evelyn Waugh, you need to read something with Basil Seal in it before approaching the short story. I highly recommend Black Mischief, which is the most politically incorrect book ever written.

It is about colonialism in Africa and Waugh tears down everyone. Viciously funny. I can't even.

For those interesting in reading him, Brideshead Revisited is a great book, and very accessible. It is, however, markedly different from his early work.

The Sword of Honour trilogy is something of an expansion of Brideshead, so if you like it and it's style, that's the next thing to read.

The Smart Set books are very funny, but are also somewhat remote to those who don't know British society in the 1930s. I will say that the more you read, the funnier they get because you start to pick up on the idioms and running gags. Waugh's first novel - Decline and Fall is quite amusing and sets the tone for his comedy of absurdities. Also has some wonderful slander against the Welsh.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 10:18 AM (llXky)

154 How can they make money with all the free porn on the Internet?
Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 17, 2022


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I think Porsche Carrera's heyday was before the Internet got going. Now, yes, "the amateurs are ruining the business."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 17, 2022 10:18 AM (c6xtn)

155 Coincidentally with the perfessor's blurb in the post, I have been perusing Adler's *How to Read a Book*. It was gifted me in 1988 (I used book plates back then) and it's been sitting on a shelf. About 10 pages at a time. Very much has the feel of Strunk and White's *Elements of Style*. I like it.

I think I mentioned last week Adler's *How to Mark a Book*, a short essay easily found on the web. Turns out, I have already been marking a bunch on the Divine Comedy (8 cantos to go!) because it helps keep my focus on the text -- also awake.

Posted by: sinmi at July 17, 2022 10:18 AM (W/XS6)

156 I moved to real books over Kindle for a couple of reasons. One to get my face out of a screen. One to keep real books in business. I start by going to a second hand store. Again, I want them to remain a thing. And then to Barnes and Noble. And the Niven pickings are slim all around. Even Heinlein. This is why I think they will disappear.

The copy of Mote I ordered from Amazon is printed terribly. I think it's probably some print on demand thing even though it's a Simon and Schuster imprint. I may rebuy it on Kindle because the quality of the printed copy takes away from my enjoyment.

Damn you Amazon!

Posted by: blaster at July 17, 2022 10:18 AM (6TxNR)

157
How can they make money with all the free porn on the Internet?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 17, 2022 10:15 AM (eGTCV)
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One of my ex-friends is a failed pornographer. A real resume-enhancer.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 10:20 AM (llXky)

158 Is that guilty pleasure book like Ancient Aliens?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 17, 2022 10:20 AM (kf6Ak)

159
Coincidentally with the perfessor's blurb in the post, I have been perusing Adler's *How to Read a Book*. It was gifted me in 1988 (I used book plates back then) and it's been sitting on a shelf. About 10 pages at a time. Very much has the feel of Strunk and White's *Elements of Style*. I like it.
Posted by: sinmi at July 17, 2022


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Too late! I've already read one.
( -- Will Cuppy)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 17, 2022 10:21 AM (c6xtn)

160 Ari Hoffman@thehoffatherc
EXCLUSIVE: Today at an internal meeting CEO Howard Schultz said: "Starbucks is a window into America... we are facing things in which the stores were not built for... we're listening to our people and closing stores, & this is just the beginning. There are gonna be many more.

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1) Where will the smug go to mug?

2) Starbucks had a hand in accommodating evil and is now reaping what it sewed.

3) "we are facing things in which the stores were not built for". English, MFer, do you speak it?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 17, 2022 10:22 AM (FVME7)

161 @138 --

"Oh, murder!"

"Murder" seems to have been a common epithet in the '40s. Milton Caniff used it in his "Male Call" strips, often broken into two syllables. Our equivalent is probably "fuck."

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 17, 2022 10:22 AM (Om/di)

162 think I mentioned last week Adler's *How to Mark a Book*, a short essay easily found on the web. Turns out, I have already been marking a bunch on the Divine Comedy (8 cantos to go!) because it helps keep my focus on the text -- also awake.
Posted by: sinmi at July 17, 2022 10:18 AM (W/XS6)

I've been a marker for years. Since "reading" Adler I've even more diligent. I try to mark every segment of reading I do.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 17, 2022 10:22 AM (eGTCV)

163 Wolfus --

Wolfus:
They gave Robby better lines than they gave some of the crewmen.

"Star sapphires take a week to crystallize. Will diamonds or emeralds do?"
"Sorry, miss. I was giving myself an oil job."

Although Earl Holliman's "I hope you don't think I could have gotten that drunk in five minutes" wasn't bad.

Funny to see it now and wonder how many people think that all Leslie Nielsen ever did was Police Squad and Airplane.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 17, 2022 10:22 AM (JzDjf)

164 I wonder how much current porn performers really make. Not much, I'll bet.
Posted by: Weak Geek at July 17, 2022 10:06 AM (Om/di)
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I don't know but I've been told that OnlyFans and Instagram is the place to be.

Posted by: Joe, the Girls Gone Wild Guy at July 17, 2022 10:22 AM (4I/2K)

165 >>> 140 ah, the overnight thunder and lightning show has ended and the rain has started!

Woot!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 17, 2022 10:11 AM (5pTK/)

When you guys are done with it can you send it further east?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 17, 2022 10:23 AM (llON8)

166 How can they make money with all the free porn on the Internet?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 17, 2022 10:15 AM (eGTC

Before Covid , Porn stars would be featured dancers at strip clubs across the country . They could earn 10k to 20k a week or more.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 17, 2022 10:23 AM (B4fKI)

167 One of my ex-friends is a failed pornographer. A real resume-enhancer.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 10:20 AM (llXky)

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Some comedian used to tell a story about a failed pr0n actor who tried to find work in the decent world. He got a job as a gas station attendant but they fired him after the first week.

Seems he kept pulling the nozzle out if the tank in the middle of the fill-up and spraying gas all over the side of the cars.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 17, 2022 10:24 AM (XG2Fi)

168 I am re-reading "A Third Testament" by Malcolm Muggeridge, a Journalist who became a Christian later on in life or rediscovered his faith, He chronicles the lives of St. Augustine, Blaise Pascal, William Blake, Soren Kierkegaard, Leo Tolstoy and Dietrich Bonhoeffer. He sees them as "God's spies" in enemy territory, the enemy being the Devil.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2022 10:24 AM (FZ2cV)

169 I've always read a lot, but never wrote anything myself until 40-ish; when I specifically learned to write by joining a local writer's group. The group fizzled in short order but it got the job done. I realized how much of an education I really got from my Dragon Lady 1st Grade teacher, Mrs. B, who, no shit, broke out the Chicago Manual of Style. In 1st Grade! All the basics came back. Well, most of them.

Posted by: LenNeal at July 17, 2022 10:24 AM (43xH1)

170 And with that...I was out.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021)
sounds atrocious

Posted by: CN at July 17, 2022 10:25 AM (ONvIw)

171 My book club is now reading The Mote in Gods Eye.

The aliens in Mote and Gripping Hand are interesting. The human characters are as flat as cardboard cut-outs.

Posted by: Oddbob at July 17, 2022 10:25 AM (nfrXX)

172 Wolfus:
They gave Robby better lines than they gave some of the crewmen.

"Star sapphires take a week to crystallize. Will diamonds or emeralds do?"
"Sorry, miss. I was giving myself an oil job."

Although Earl Holliman's "I hope you don't think I could have gotten that drunk in five minutes" wasn't bad.

Funny to see it now and wonder how many people think that all Leslie Nielsen ever did was Police Squad and Airplane.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 17, 2022


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True on both points. Nielsen was a dramatic actor in the '50s and '60s, on into the '70s as well, mostly in TV. I wonder if Roddenberry & Co. ever considered him to play Pike, or Kirk.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 17, 2022 10:25 AM (c6xtn)

173 When you guys are done with it can you send it further east?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 17, 2022 10:23 AM (llON
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Heh, for a bit there, our back windows looked like they were going through a car wash.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 17, 2022 10:26 AM (5pTK/)

174 More from Cap'n Stabucks. "In my view, at the local, state, and federal level, these governments across the country and leaders, mayors and governors and city councils, have abdicated their responsibility in fighting crime and addressing mental illness."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 17, 2022 10:26 AM (FVME7)

175 More from Cap'n Stabucks. "In my view, at the local, state, and federal level, these governments across the country and leaders, mayors and governors and city councils, have abdicated their responsibility in fighting crime and addressing mental illness."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 17, 2022 10:26 AM
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It doesn't matter how much reality smacks these people around, they'll still deny that reality was created by the very policies they promote.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 17, 2022 10:27 AM (5pTK/)

176 Only reading right now is the Psalms. One a day, sung in the Eastern Christian manner.

It's jarring to switch from a Psalm to the news. Clarity and harmony...BAM! chaos.

Posted by: callsign claymore at July 17, 2022 10:28 AM (mP5A+)

177 > My only big problem with it is his hatred for Zelda. Without her, and her diaries and turns of phrase, his career would probably have been less, not more.

Perhaps, but to put it in the vernacular of Today's Youth, Beyotch was cray-cray, yo.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 17, 2022 10:28 AM (bW8dp)

178
I hear more than I need to of Florence Price and William Grant Still (and I really like Still's works).
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Analog Hipster at July 17, 2022 10:00 AM (Dc2NZ)

___________

They're both now being touted as geniuses suppressed by systemic racism in America. I've listened to things by both and while they're enjoyable they're not groundbreaking in any way. More that both were wiped out by the postwar modernist tyranny that deprecated anything tonal as hopelessly old fashioned.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 17, 2022 10:28 AM (/U27+)

179 Currently I've been using Lulu for proof copies; it's really rather easy, and it's amazing to be able to simply make up a pdf, send it in, and get your own book in the mail like a week later. Relatively cheap, too.
I recommend it highly.

Posted by: LenNeal at July 17, 2022 10:29 AM (43xH1)

180 Been eons since I read it so I'm fuzzy on most of its details, but Donald Westlake did a novel called Adios, Scheherezade; it was about a guy who wrote porn novels by the truckload, running late on delivering the next one, and finding that he just can't bear to write another page of the dreck. Funny as hell, and the section where he tries to outline the thing to get himself going again is just hilarious -- unbelievably gross, but hilarious.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 17, 2022 10:29 AM (JzDjf)

181 The Expanse...named for the size of the books...Stepehenson blushes...

Posted by: Qmark at July 17, 2022 10:29 AM (emnp2)

182 @174 --

From "woke" to "awakened."

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 17, 2022 10:29 AM (Om/di)

183 True on both points. Nielsen was a dramatic actor in the '50s and '60s, on into the '70s as well, mostly in TV. I wonder if Roddenberry & Co. ever considered him to play Pike, or Kirk.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 17, 2022 10:25 AM (c6xtn)
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To expensive. Star Trek's f/x budget was already pretty high, so they couldn't afford established talent.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 10:29 AM (llXky)

184 She also is a Progressive Feminist and she constructed a perfect Queer Femininity Fantasy for Inda. Now, this wasn't apparent at first, apart from her indulgence in that trope of woman warriors being just as good as men. But by the 3/4 mark, when we learn more about the world we discover that she's written a setting where:
Women can have children without men (a Birthing spell)
Men can have children together.
There is no stigma on homosexuality
There is no rape (magically, the women mages killed off that 'trait)
There's magical birth control
Poop and dead bodies get magically destroyed.
Finally, and what was the straw that broke the camel's back, one of the characters we're supposed to be sympathizing with as a main character, confesses that he's been sexually 'experimenting' with underage boys. This is all depicted as normal, even laudable.
And with that...I was out.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021)

What? The? F#@k? Besides being morally terrible, some that is just....childish. Poop is magically destroyed? W--why? There is something wrong with that writer...

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 17, 2022 10:30 AM (Lhaco)

185 Remember when Starbucks Schultz was going to be the Trump of the Left?

He's done in that world talking like that.

Posted by: blaster at July 17, 2022 10:30 AM (6TxNR)

186
The aliens in Mote and Gripping Hand are interesting. The human characters are as flat as cardboard cut-outs.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 17, 2022


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I had trouble finishing Gripping Hand. Mote however remains as fresh as it was in 1975.

It's not that kind of story with human characters growing and changing. The "first contact" element was the most important thing. Though Navigator Renner is pretty cool.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 17, 2022 10:30 AM (c6xtn)

187 Prayer request: I am not at church today (I went to another service earlier this morning) because I am involved with a free picnic for local conservatives with a group that is going to have conservative political speakers, talks on education as well as Mark Zuckerberg's involvement with work to affect voting,and a showing of the Movie, "Rigged" about the 2020 election. The picnic hasn't been held in two years because of Corona. In the past leftist people have put graffiti up and broken the signs. There will be some police there, but if you could pray for protection for us it would be much appreciated. It goes from 2-5. EST Thanks very much.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2022 10:31 AM (FZ2cV)

188 Is that guilty pleasure book like Ancient Aliens?
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 17, 2022 10:20 AM (kf6Ak)
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Not quite sure (haven't actually read it yet). The basic premise is that an archaeologist discovered a fundamental unit of measurement used to build the megalithic structures in Britain and Western Europe (e.g. Stonehenge). The incredible precision led the authors to their own investigation, which then started opening up other areas of measurement that aren't easily explained by the conventional explanation of cultural advances.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2022 10:31 AM (K5n5d)

189 I've been pondering finding a new church. I'm happy enough with my present church but I commute into church. I've long wondered if I really should be going to church closer to home. The price of gas has me wondering if this would be a good time to make the switch.
Further before my wife died this was "our" church. I think I might like to find "my" church.
Having said that I have no issues with the church.

I'm feeling a little weird right now so I might staying home this morning.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 17, 2022 10:31 AM (eGTCV)

190 My only big problem with it is his hatred for Zelda. Without her, and her diaries and turns of phrase, his career would probably have been less, not more.

Perhaps, but to put it in the vernacular of Today's Youth, Beyotch was cray-cray, yo.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 17, 2022 10:28 AM (bW8dp)
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The opposite of love isn't hate, it's indifference. He's paying her a compliment, but he didn't know it at the time.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 10:31 AM (llXky)

191 Done, Fen.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 17, 2022 10:32 AM (5pTK/)

192
(the last pics I saw of Ms. Carrara, however, she had a "40 miles of bad road covered by an avalanche" look going on.)

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 17, 2022 10:10 AM


Interestingly enough, 60 plus year old Peter North, in some videos in the past decade, looks absolutely no worse for the wear. The '80's flattop hair and all.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 17, 2022 10:32 AM (dQvv7)

193 I've been reading Larry Correia's Forgotten Soldier series. I know I tried it years ago when it first came out but the main character put me off so I didn't get past chapter one. I persevered this time and it actually gets a lot lot better.
Looking forward to book which hopefully gets published four next year

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 17, 2022 10:32 AM (kf6Ak)

194 Only reading right now is the Psalms. One a day, sung in the Eastern Christian manner.

I often read a Psalm out loud. I find it adds to the significance. But I don't do that with the longer psalms.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 17, 2022 10:33 AM (eGTCV)

195 What? The? F#@k? Besides being morally terrible, some that is just....childish. Poop is magically destroyed? W--why? There is something wrong with that writer...

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 17, 2022 10:30 AM (Lhaco)
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I'm curious as to what plot point the "instant fecal disappearance" thing was supposed to resolve.

Hmmm. Maybe I don't want to know.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 10:34 AM (llXky)

196 To expensive. Star Trek's f/x budget was already pretty high, so they couldn't afford established talent.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022


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Possibly. But remember that Shatner was unquestionably "established," though not as a movie star. He'd guested on many a TV show in the previous 5-6 years, including Twilight Zone, and starred in his own series as a DA. Landing him as the lead was quite the feather in GR & Co.'s caps.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 17, 2022 10:34 AM (c6xtn)

197 Setting aside deliberate time for reading, making an appointment is good advice

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I need to do that.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 17, 2022 10:34 AM (kf6Ak)

198 177. An actual schizophrenic, and one from whom he "borrowed" to the point of preventing her from using her own material. Hemingway either didn't know or found that valid.

Posted by: CN at July 17, 2022 10:34 AM (ONvIw)

199 Mornin' Horde. I recently finished the 3rd book of Katherine Arden's Winternight trilogy. I loved all 3 books. Haven't had enough covfefe this morning to write a proper review, but this series is filled with adventure, folklore (it's set in medieval Rus), and magic. The 3rd book features more political intrigue and the tension between the traditional chyerti (Russian folk spirits) and the growth of the Orthodox faith. Ignore the reviews gushing about the feminist themes. Yes, Vasya is a very unconventional female, but you don't get bashed on the head with how Stronk and Empowered she is at every turn. She is a strong but real character; she occasionally blunders or falters as she charts her path and discovers her abilities. Arden writes beautifully but her language never gets in the way of the story. These are definitely in the re-read pile for me.

Book 1 - The Bear and the Nightingale
Book 2 - The Girl in the Tower
Book 3 - The Winter of the Witch

Posted by: Ivy League graduate and State Senator Tiara Mack at July 17, 2022 10:35 AM (pkAcY)

200 I'm curious as to what plot point the "instant fecal disappearance" thing was supposed to resolve.

Hmmm. Maybe I don't want to know.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 10:34 AM (llXky)
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Plot point, filler or insult to the reader, you decide!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 17, 2022 10:35 AM (5pTK/)

201 you got it, Fen

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2022 10:36 AM (89T5c)

202 I thought the loss of Tab Hunter was a big deal and almost a deal breaker on Star Trek.

Posted by: blaster at July 17, 2022 10:36 AM (6TxNR)

203 > That Pliny the Elder!

On the other hand, brave enough to come and rescue his friends from a volcanic eruption, even though it meant the loss of his own life.

A little gullible, perhaps, but a great Roman nonetheless.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 17, 2022 10:36 AM (bW8dp)

204 What? The? F#@k? Besides being morally terrible, some that is just....childish. Poop is magically destroyed? W--why? There is something wrong with that writer...

Posted by: Castle Guy at July 17, 2022 10:30 AM (Lhaco)
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I'm curious as to what plot point the "instant fecal disappearance" thing was supposed to resolve.

Hmmm. Maybe I don't want to know.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 10:34 AM (llXky)
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"Nobody Poops" is an actual trope in literature:

https://tinyurl.com/45hshz52

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2022 10:36 AM (K5n5d)

205 More from Cap'n Stabucks. "In my view, at the local, state, and federal level, these governments across the country and leaders, mayors and governors and city councils, have abdicated their responsibility in fighting crime and addressing mental illness."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 17, 2022 10:26 AM



And yet this imbecile will continue to vote Democrat. I have no doubt.

Posted by: Guidons, Guidons...Lariat Advance at July 17, 2022 10:36 AM (afRfN)

206 recall who wrote the psalms, after taking a long inventory of his life, this is why matthew 24 speaks great wisdom,

Posted by: no 6 at July 17, 2022 10:37 AM (i0Lci)

207 151 I had to walk away from a fantasy novel I'd been reading: Inda by Sherwood Smith.

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I read a bunch of her books years and years ago, and most of that just flew over my head. I wasn't sensitized to wokeness yet.
I think she writes exclusively in one universe, across time periods, and there is a richness to her worldbuilding.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 17, 2022 10:39 AM (kf6Ak)

208 >>> Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021)

What? The? F#@k? Besides being morally terrible, some that is just....childish. Poop is magically destroyed? W--why? There is something wrong with that writer...
Posted by: Castle Guy at July 17, 2022 10:30 AM (Lhaco)

iirc poop and dead bodies are handled by the "untouchable" caste in India... so what does she think happened to them (on top of all the other psychosis)?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 17, 2022 10:39 AM (llON8)

209 > The human characters are as flat as cardboard cut-outs.

Other than Renner and maybe Bury, pretty much, yeah.

The Gripping Hand kinda sucked, IMO. I read it just to get some closure on the story.

I suspect that The Gripping Hand suffered mightily from not having Heinlein line editing it, as rumor has it he did for the first one.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 17, 2022 10:39 AM (bW8dp)

210 I hadn't heard of Nielsen being considered for Star Trek, and no longer remember anything about budget considerations where casting was concerned (Shatner was fairly active in television, I thought, with parts in some pretty good Twilight Zone & Thriller episodes, and if memory serves, an Oscar nomination for supporting actor in Brothers Karamazov, and I don't imagine Jeffrey Hunter came all that cheap). It'd be interesting to know how many people were approached for parts and turned it down because they thought it wouldn't last a season.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 17, 2022 10:39 AM (JzDjf)

211 Hi, horde! I am reading William L. Shirer's "The Collapse of the Third Republic" about the fall of France in 1940. I knew the frogs had screwed up but I never knew the details. Mon dieu, what a shit show that was - generals whose mindset was stuck in 1918, who had no idea how to use tanks and planes, who didn't even have radio communications. It's a bit unfair to blame the average Pierre for the mess - what could he possibly do when the commanders were sitting in their various HQs far from the front with no idea of what was going on? The Germans were stunned by how easy the frogs made things for them.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at July 17, 2022 10:40 AM (HabA/)

212 Howdy, N.L. Urker. I've heard saying written words out loud impacts the brain differently than merely reading them. Makes sense.

Posted by: callsign claymore at July 17, 2022 10:40 AM (mP5A+)

213 Possibly. But remember that Shatner was unquestionably "established," though not as a movie star. He'd guested on many a TV show in the previous 5-6 years, including Twilight Zone, and starred in his own series as a DA. Landing him as the lead was quite the feather in GR & Co.'s caps.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 17, 2022 10:34 AM (c6xtn)
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I just compared the filmographies and it's not even close. Shatner had done bit parts here and there, but had nothing like Nielsen's exposure. This TV series was a mid-season replacement that flopped.

Guy was desperate for work.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 10:40 AM (llXky)

214 "Nobody Poops" is an actual trope in literature:

https://tinyurl.com/45hshz52
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2022 10:36 AM (K5n5d)
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Unless the person killed is an assassin who made the mistake of using a public restroom. (Marathon Man, I believe)

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 17, 2022 10:40 AM (5pTK/)

215
More from Cap'n Stabucks. "In my view, at the local, state, and federal level, these governments across the country and leaders, mayors and governors and city councils, have abdicated their responsibility in fighting crime and addressing mental illness."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 17, 2022 10:26 AM


Prick just doesn't want to retrofit his coffee shops with McDonalds sized bathrooms. Sorry dude, if you're selling beverages people gotta pee, even the occasional bum.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 17, 2022 10:41 AM (dQvv7)

216 Interestingly enough, 60 plus year old Peter North, in some videos in the past decade, looks absolutely no worse for the wear. The '80's flattop hair and all.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at July 17, 2022 10:32 AM (dQvv7)

Don't touch the hair!

Posted by: Peter North at July 17, 2022 10:41 AM (4I/2K)

217 Progressives are convinced they are the intelligent ones but I doubt any group of progressives are as well read as the Horde.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 17, 2022 10:42 AM (eGTCV)

218 Jeffrey Hunter. Not Tab.

I shall don a red shirt in penance.

Posted by: blaster at July 17, 2022 10:42 AM (6TxNR)

219 hadn't heard of Nielsen being considered for Star Trek, and no longer remember anything about budget considerations where casting was concerned (Shatner was fairly active in television, I thought, with parts in some pretty good Twilight Zone & Thriller episodes, and if memory serves, an Oscar nomination for supporting actor in Brothers Karamazov, and I don't imagine Jeffrey Hunter came all that cheap). It'd be interesting to know how many people were approached for parts and turned it down because they thought it wouldn't last a season.
Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 17, 2022


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The Nielsen thing was just my idea. Though I have read that Lloyd Bridges was approached to play Kirk, and turned them down. He didn't want another typecasting setup like he got with Sea Hunt. In the '60s, every comedian and variety show featured a Lloyd Bridges/water/scuba gag at least once a week, it seemed.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 17, 2022 10:42 AM (c6xtn)

220 > I'm curious as to what plot point the "instant fecal disappearance" thing was supposed to resolve.

I liked Larry Niven's solution in A World Out of Time.

Basically a metal sponge connected to a Trek-like transporter unit that makes the crap Go Away.

Though I always wondered why, if they had the technology miniaturized that much, they didn't just implant it.... so you'd just basically never need to go to the bathroom again, ever. It'd be transported elsewhere as soon as it reached the end of the pipe.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 17, 2022 10:44 AM (bW8dp)

221 Howdy, N.L. Urker. I've heard saying written words out loud impacts the brain differently than merely reading them. Makes sense.

Posted by: callsign claymore at July 17, 2022 10:40 AM (mP5A+)

It seems to me that there was a time when people generally read out loud. I might be mistaken.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 17, 2022 10:44 AM (eGTCV)

222 Jeffrey Hunter. Not Tab.

I shall don a red shirt in penance.
Posted by: blaster at July 17, 2022


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Tab Hunter was a better actor than he's given credit for. He plays an unrepentant sociopath in Gunman's Walk w/ Van Heflin, and is very convincing.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 17, 2022 10:44 AM (c6xtn)

223 Want to endorse another Robb White book: "Silent Ship, Silent Sea". I've never been much for military stories, but I read this book as a kid and it stuck with me. I managed to borrow it again a few years ago through the interlibrary loan system, and it's still a cracker.

I need to get it for my boy, who's not a reader, but does like the old Biggles military aviator stories.

Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at July 17, 2022 10:44 AM (2in2e)

224 >>> 193 I've been reading Larry Correia's Forgotten Soldier series. I know I tried it years ago when it first came out but the main character put me off so I didn't get past chapter one. I persevered this time and it actually gets a lot lot better.
Looking forward to book which hopefully gets published four next year
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 17, 2022 10:32 AM (kf6Ak)

Son of the Black Sword etc? Ashok is indeed a grumpy bastard; I like how Correia is showing how he *gradually* changes. I've really enjoyed the world-building in this series too.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 17, 2022 10:45 AM (llON8)

225 Wasn't Lloyd Bridges the winning choice in the old SNL skit about the game show "Quien es mas macho?"

Posted by: Just Some Guy at July 17, 2022 10:45 AM (JzDjf)

226 Progressives are convinced they are the intelligent ones but I doubt any group of progressives are as well read as the Horde.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 17, 2022 10:42 AM (eGTCV)
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That's pretty much a given. I doubt any group of Leftists anywhere could develop a Recommended reading list that is as broad and as deep as the one compiled by the Moron Horde...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2022 10:45 AM (K5n5d)

227 Morning Hordemates.
I've started book four of the Terminal List series and they have been excellent but I admit I've put it down. I need a break. I may start The Old man by Carr instead. Something different.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2022 10:45 AM (anj39)

228 Kerbs v. Varnot: That book about the Gold Rush sounds really interesting. A couple of years ago I read a coffee table book about the Great Lakes. Pierre Berton wrote the text for it. I thought he was a very good writer.

Posted by: who knew at July 17, 2022 10:46 AM (4I7VG)

229 Son of the Black Sword etc? Ashok is indeed a grumpy bastard; I like how Correia is showing how he *gradually* changes. I've really enjoyed the world-building in this series too.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 17, 2022 10:45 AM (llON

Yep!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 17, 2022 10:46 AM (kf6Ak)

230 "Nobody Poops" is an actual trope in literature:

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2022 10:36 AM (K5n5d)
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A significant plot point in the first volume of the Sword of Honour trilogy (Men at Arms) is a duel of wits over a portable chemical toilet (the "thunder box").

I dispute the trope insofar as including that would violate the commandment of only giving details relevant to the story. We don't highlight breathing until it becomes irregular - or, when it should be irregular, isn't.

Similarly, normal body functions are assumed unless there is something wrong.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 10:46 AM (llXky)

231 Hi, horde! I am reading William L. Shirer's "The Collapse of the Third Republic" about the fall of France in 1940. I knew the frogs had screwed up but I never knew the details. Mon dieu, what a shit show that was - generals whose mindset was stuck in 1918, who had no idea how to use tanks and planes, who didn't even have radio communications. It's a bit unfair to blame the average Pierre for the mess - what could he possibly do when the commanders were sitting in their various HQs far from the front with no idea of what was going on? The Germans were stunned by how easy the frogs made things for them.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at July 17, 2022 10:40 AM (HabA/)



The Germans - fiendish bastards that they were - marched in backwards and the French, thinking they were leaving, left their positions to go drink wine and eat cheese. And that's how France fell.

Posted by: Guidons, Guidons...Lariat Advance at July 17, 2022 10:47 AM (afRfN)

232 It seems to me that there was a time when people generally read out loud. I might be mistaken.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 17, 2022 10:44 AM (eGTCV)
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Oral readings were very much a form of entertainment back in the day. People would often gather to enjoy the original form of "audiobook," whether poetry or prose.

Semi-literate or illiterate people would get to hear the same stories, thus gaining some small measure of wisdom that way.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2022 10:47 AM (K5n5d)

233 It was a dump and shitty night...

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at July 17, 2022 10:47 AM (yikp0)

234 Random Book also turned up a book called "An Inquiry into the Permanent Causes of the Decline and Fall of Powerful and Wealthy Nations", which I haven't read yet (too sick to really focus) but which promises to be timely.
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 17, 2022 09:31 AM (8548M)


Mrs Peel that book appears to have come out in 1923 as a follow up to Adam Smith, and I wonder what it has to say.
One of my "stalled" books is Culture of Change by Joel Mokyr, and it discusses the cause of modernity and how it creates wealth and advances knowledge. (Positive feedback being allowed to operate)

Posted by: Kindltot at July 17, 2022 10:47 AM (xhaym)

235 I'm curious as to what plot point the "instant fecal disappearance" thing was supposed to resolve.

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I think, iirc, the author said she started making up stories in her fantasy world when she was a kid. I have a feeling that's something she made up as a kid, coz poop is icky.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 17, 2022 10:48 AM (kf6Ak)

236 Book 1 - The Bear and the Nightingale
Book 2 - The Girl in the Tower
Book 3 - The Winter of the Witch
Posted by: Ivy League graduate and State Senator Tiara Mack
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Crap. Forgot to remove twerking sock.

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 17, 2022 10:48 AM (pkAcY)

237 That's pretty much a given. I doubt any group of Leftists anywhere could develop a Recommended reading list that is as broad and as deep as the one compiled by the Moron Horde...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2022 10:45 AM (K5n5d)
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Leftists want affirmation for their existing worldview. Anything that challenges it threatens them.

That's why the "sexuality" section in bookstores exists - it's not about exploring or discussion it so much as affirming it.

The Horde seeks out knowledge for its own sake, and we welcome (well written!) challenges to our beliefs.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 10:48 AM (llXky)

238 Semi-literate or illiterate people would get to hear the same stories, thus gaining some small measure of wisdom that way.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2022 10:47 AM (K5n5d)

Or a rollicking good story...just ask Homer!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 17, 2022 10:49 AM (XIJ/X)

239 I have The Christian Mind in my pile of books to read.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 17, 2022 10:49 AM (eGTCV)

240 It seems to me that there was a time when people generally read out loud. I might be mistaken.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 17, 2022 10:44 AM (eGTCV

That has to be exhausting. My 5th grade teacher used to read to us in the last hour of the school day, or maybe just on friday, been too long to remember. She read the phantom toll booth aloud. Thats the only one I remember. I think back to that and think damn that had to be a pain in the ass. Curiously, she was pretty young at the time, and is still very much alive.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2022 10:49 AM (VwHCD)

241 remember roddenberry was a new deal liberal, in the employ of william parker, a hard nosed conservative, he wrote his speeches, but he clearly harbored more utopian conceptions of things, still much more realistic then the next generation show runner,s perhaps ds9 went back to reality,

Posted by: no 6 at July 17, 2022 10:50 AM (i0Lci)

242 The Horde seeks out knowledge for its own sake, and we welcome (well written!) challenges to our beliefs.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 10:48 AM (llXky)

If I'm wrong I should want to know.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 17, 2022 10:50 AM (eGTCV)

243 I think, iirc, the author said she started making up stories in her fantasy world when she was a kid. I have a feeling that's something she made up as a kid, coz poop is icky.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 17, 2022 10:48 AM (kf6Ak)
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Since his return the Church, Milo Y. has said that the reality of the gay lifestyle is more disgusting than is ever talked about, and that's an element in it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 10:51 AM (llXky)

244 @195 --

Marvel's best series of the 2000s, Agents of Atlas, had a scene in which one member of the team complains to another member, who was born on Earth but grew up on another world, that his spaceship has no bathroom. The "alien" replies: "Just go in the room and excrete your waste. The ship will take care of it." And it did. Fortunately, the action wasn't depicted. In my imagination, the ship absorbed it.

Maybe the idea in the book was to show how high-tech the beings were.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 17, 2022 10:51 AM (Om/di)

245 > It seems to me that there was a time when people generally read out loud. I might be mistaken.

Indeed there was.

It's not clear exactly when silent reading became the norm, though consensus appears to be somewhere in the 1700s. Before that, almost all reading was done aloud.

Saint Augustine refers to Saint Ambrose being able to read silently, but it's implied that this is something of a marvel, not at all the usual way.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at July 17, 2022 10:51 AM (bW8dp)

246 I should have said The Christian Mind by Harry Blamires.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 17, 2022 10:52 AM (eGTCV)

247 that would be thomas perry, which was a stand a lone as opposed to part of a series,

Posted by: no 6 at July 17, 2022 10:52 AM (i0Lci)

248 That has to be exhausting. My 5th grade teacher used to read to us in the last hour of the school day, or maybe just on friday, been too long to remember. She read the phantom toll booth aloud. Thats the only one I remember. I think back to that and think damn that had to be a pain in the ass. Curiously, she was pretty young at the time, and is still very much alive.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2022 10:49 AM (VwHCD)
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My mom used to read to us kids at the breakfast table. I'm pretty sure this was one (among many!) of the books she read to us. I always loved The Phantom Tollbooth. Great book!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2022 10:52 AM (K5n5d)

249 My 5th grade teacher used to read to us in the last hour of the school day, or maybe just on friday, been too long to remember. She read the phantom toll booth aloud.


My fifth grade teacher read aloud to us at the end of each day. Little House on the Prairie. I loved her reading voice.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 17, 2022 10:52 AM (45fpk)

250 remember roddenberry was a new deal liberal, in the employ of william parker, a hard nosed conservative, he wrote his speeches, but he clearly harbored more utopian conceptions of things, still much more realistic then the next generation show runner,s perhaps ds9 went back to reality,

Posted by: no 6 at July 17, 2022 10:50 AM (i0Lci)
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Babylon 5 ftw! Walter Koenig's best work.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 10:52 AM (llXky)

251 True on both points. Nielsen was a dramatic actor in the '50s and '60s, on into the '70s as well, mostly in TV. I wonder if Roddenberry & Co. ever considered him to play Pike, or Kirk.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 17, 2022 10:25 AM (c6xtn)

He was good in "Creepshow" when he buried Ted Danson up to his neck on the beach.

I always got him mixed up with George Peppard when they were both young actors.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 17, 2022 10:53 AM (R/m4+)

252 I have a theory that Roddenberry was a reverse Terminator who was sent back in time to ensure his future came about.

Posted by: blaster at July 17, 2022 10:54 AM (6TxNR)

253 Drag Queen Story Hour is a typical perversion of what was once a common thing: reading time at the library. My elementary school had a designated period where we went to the library and had a book read to us by the librarian and sometimes a Special Guest. That was how I encountered James and the Giant Peach, the Phantom Tollbooth, and other books.

After the reading portion, we'd go and check out books. I always went to the 940s of course.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 10:55 AM (llXky)

254 I wonder how many people it takes to dust all those books off.

Posted by: dartist at July 17, 2022 10:55 AM (+ya+t)

255 I remember my Grade 1 teacher reading Danny Meadow Mouse aloud, That may not have been the actual title of the book.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 17, 2022 10:55 AM (eGTCV)

256 It's a bit unfair to blame the average Pierre for the mess - what could he possibly do when the commanders were sitting in their various HQs far from the front with no idea of what was going on? The Germans were stunned by how easy the frogs made things for them.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at July 17, 2022 10:40 AM (HabA/)
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Imagine it all. The equipment they left behind as they skidaddled outta there. And the people, the money, the documents, and folks falling off over-crowded boats. It was almost like...we learn nothing from history.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2022 10:55 AM (anj39)

257 Since his return the Church, Milo Y. has said that the reality of the gay lifestyle is more disgusting than is ever talked about, and that's an element in it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 10:51 AM (llXky)

Maybe he should talk about it. Dispel the cachet of gayness and how fabulous it is and let the people know it's more Gillum than sanitized Hollywood gay.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 17, 2022 10:55 AM (7bRMQ)

258 of course shirer wrote about the third republic, and it's collapse, the political class alan furst touches on this, hated blum because he was a socialist and also a Jew, probably as much the latter, and the Nazis just let them do what they already wanted to under Vichy, same for the Ustachi, the Arrow Cross and the OUN since the last is topical

Posted by: no 6 at July 17, 2022 10:56 AM (i0Lci)

259 My fifth grade teacher read aloud to us at the end of each day. Little House on the Prairie. I loved her reading voice.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 17, 2022 10:52 AM (45fpk)
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Hmm, I had a fifth grade teacher who read to us, also. Last 15 minutes of the day. We had a bunch of us who liked to read, so, we'd ask to borrow the book to read ahead. He finally put a stop to it, as it got out of hand.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 17, 2022 10:56 AM (5pTK/)

260
My fifth grade teacher read aloud to us at the end of each day. Little House on the Prairie. I loved her reading voice.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 17, 2022 10:52 AM (45fpk)

Fifth graders pretend they don't like being read to, because they're the seniors of elementary school and too grown-up and cool for all that - and yet when you start reading to them, you find they like being read to, just as much as the 5K kiddies do.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at July 17, 2022 10:57 AM (HabA/)

261 Babylon 5 ftw! Walter Koenig's best work.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 10:52 AM (llXky)

He was a serious dickhead in B5, but yeah, he was good.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2022 10:58 AM (VwHCD)

262 Can't say anytime recently, but I think there are benefits to reading out load even to yourself.

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2022 10:58 AM (2JoB8)

263 259. My 3rd grade teacher read Hawthorne stories. My favorite was The Great Stone Face

Posted by: CN at July 17, 2022 10:58 AM (ONvIw)

264 Furthermore Petain saw the loss of a generation of French men, at VErdun at the Somme, he wasn't at the same level as Nivelle and Foch, and wanted to spare them that anguish,

Posted by: no 6 at July 17, 2022 10:59 AM (i0Lci)

265 Imagine it all. The equipment they left behind as they skidaddled outta there. And the people, the money, the documents, and folks falling off over-crowded boats. It was almost like...we learn nothing from history.

Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2022 10:55 AM (anj39)
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I never realized how desperately short of weapons the Germans were until I began watching Forgotten Weapons and realized that with the fall of each country - even minor ones - the Reich got a trove of weapons to continue the war.

The French small arms were generally useless, but the tanks and artillery absolutely was put to use.

Another point not widely known: the Germans reneged on their promise to release French PoWs, who were effectively held as ransom (and labor) during the war.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 10:59 AM (llXky)

266 When I read a Psalm out loud I try to read it clearly, with at least some emotion rather than mumble read.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 17, 2022 11:00 AM (eGTCV)

267 1. A lot of free official World War 2 military history ebooks are on HyperWar

https://ibiblio.org/hyperwar/

Official Histories of all US Services along with some British books are there. It is not the best organized site, and the books are in html format, but it's all FREE.

2. If you want to learn more than you ever wanted to know, for free, about the Russian tanks and armored personnel carriers being used in Ukraine, Tankograd is for you. Very technical, but helpful for beginning to understand the major differences between the tanks, as well as Russian reactive armor types, which tanks have auto-loaders and how they work, and other stuff.

https://tinyurl.com/yk83ph2a

Posted by: Gref at July 17, 2022 11:00 AM (AMIL/)

268 Babylon 5 ftw! Walter Koenig's best work.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 10:52 AM (llXky)

He was a serious dickhead in B5, but yeah, he was good.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2022 10:58 AM (VwHCD)
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Bester was a textbook example of a villain everyone loves to hate. But he was also more nuanced than a simple cartoonish supervillain. He loved telepaths and would do anything to protect his people. He didn't even hate mundanes, just saw them as expendable...like pets or chattel.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2022 11:01 AM (K5n5d)

269 My 3rd grade teacher read Hawthorne stories. My favorite was The Great Stone Face

Posted by: CN at July 17, 2022 10:58 AM (ONvIw)

Hawthorne knew Keaton?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 17, 2022 11:01 AM (7bRMQ)

270 now the French fought harder in Indochina and Algeria, then they ever did against the Germans, except for the resistance, but they were largely motivated to be part of Stalin's sphere of influence,

Posted by: no 6 at July 17, 2022 11:01 AM (i0Lci)

271 Fifth graders pretend they don't like being read to, because they're the seniors of elementary school and too grown-up and cool for all that - and yet when you start reading to them, you find they like being read to, just as much as the 5K kiddies do.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at July 17, 2022 10:57 AM (HabA/)

We actually liked it. In my school the 6th graders were the seniors. My 5th grade teacher was fairly young, 25 maybe, very nice looking, and she had a great voice. She would make the books come alive. Plus, it was a nice break at the end of the day.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2022 11:01 AM (VwHCD)

272 I've also read that poetry is meant to be read out loud.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 17, 2022 11:01 AM (eGTCV)

273 When I read a Psalm out loud I try to read it clearly, with at least some emotion rather than mumble read.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 17, 2022 11:00 AM (eGTCV)


It's good to pray many of the Psalms as well.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 17, 2022 11:02 AM (45fpk)

274 My 3rd grade teacher read Hawthorne stories. My favorite was The Great Stone Face

Posted by: CN at July 17, 2022 10:58 AM (ONvIw)

My 3rd grade teacher was a battleaxe, the great stone face was her's. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2022 11:02 AM (VwHCD)

275 Can't say anytime recently, but I think there are benefits to reading out load even to yourself.
Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2022 10:58 AM (2JoB
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It's a great way to practice pronouncing unfamiliar words, like "hebdomecontacometæ" (see fd's comment above)

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2022 11:03 AM (K5n5d)

276 Thanks for the prayers, folks. I didn't see any signs damaged this year, so maybe even some young people (high school, etc who think did the damage last year ) are coming to see how awful progressivism is

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2022 11:03 AM (FZ2cV)

277 I have a theory that Roddenberry was a reverse Terminator who was sent back in time to ensure his future came about.
Posted by: blaster at July 17, 2022


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Roddenberry's Trek did 2 things on TV that had never been done before: a consistent constructed world different from ours, and a hopeful vision of the future. Those were the 2 things that struck a chord with viewers. If his team had been sloppy with important details, such as having Mr. Spock vary wildly in characterization from week to week, and if the vision had been dark and dystopian like so much "entertainment" today, the show would not have lasted.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 17, 2022 11:04 AM (c6xtn)

278 yes who created the Psy Corps, well it wasn't Bester, but he was zealous in it's application, if one is gifted with said abilities wouldn't you want to dominate,

Posted by: no 6 at July 17, 2022 11:04 AM (i0Lci)

279 Up until a month or so ago I used to read the Bible every night before I went to sleep. I had been doing that since 1974 when I got the Living Bible when I was 14. My bedside lamp went on the blink so I just picked up the I-pad and pulled up Bible verses . I've since replaced my lamp but I have continued with the I-pad. Doesn't feel the same . I will go back to my old ways tonight. I just needed to say this out loud so I'll remember.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 17, 2022 11:05 AM (B4fKI)

280 I worked at a Christian camp for several summers *mumble* years ago. The camp director read "The Lion, the Witch, and The Wardrobe" to the support staff (high school and college kids) every evening. We all loved it.

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 17, 2022 11:05 AM (pkAcY)

281 Is there a good book in particular to serve as an introduction to Waugh's work?


I loved Brideshead Revisited.Posted by: grammie winger at July 17, 2022 09:54 AM (45fpk)

He has a dark humor book about the funeral industry in Hollywood. Sadly the title escapes but I like that one.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, at July 17, 2022 10:03 AM (eGTCV)


"The Loved One," a satire about Forest Lawn Cemetery in California, although it didn't have to stray far from reality for satire about Forest Lawn back then.

Made into a movie in the 1960s that was advertised as having "something to offend everyone."

Posted by: Wethal at July 17, 2022 11:05 AM (ZzVCK)

282 Have to put in a plug for Terry Pratchett's Discworld series. Crazy and delightful and completely unexpected. It is fantasy in a way, but that doesn't begin to describe it. He has a wicked sense of humor and an unbridled imagination, and all of the Discworld books are a feast. They are hugely popular in England but for some reason have never caught on as well in the states.

Posted by: Beverly at July 17, 2022 11:06 AM (KRVZG)

283 It's good to pray many of the Psalms as well.
Posted by: grammie winger at July 17, 2022 11:02 AM (45fpk)


Isn't that like plagiarizing?

Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2022 11:06 AM (anj39)

284 Can't say anytime recently, but I think there are benefits to reading out load even to yourself.
Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2022 10:58 AM (2JoB
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It's a great way to practice pronouncing unfamiliar words, like "hebdomecontacometæ" (see fd's comment above)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2022 11:03 AM (K5n5d)

I'm Archie Bunker sometimes when it comes to pronunciation.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 17, 2022 11:06 AM (B4fKI)

285 I think it was in elementary school... we got pulled into small groups to read aloud several paragraphs handed to us. The intent was to gauge our ability to pronounce certain words and see how well were able to string the sentences together. There was a distinct line between those that could do this and those that couldn't. AFAIK everyone got the same sort of reading material to do this little exercise.

4th or 5th grade IIRC.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2022 11:06 AM (BFigT)

286 Isn't that like plagiarizing?

Posted by: Diogenes at July 17, 2022 11:06 AM (anj39)


Guilty as charged.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 17, 2022 11:07 AM (45fpk)

287 now the French fought harder in Indochina and Algeria, then they ever did against the Germans, except for the resistance, but they were largely motivated to be part of Stalin's sphere of influence,

Posted by: no 6 at July 17, 2022 11:01 AM (i0Lci)
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That's not entirely fair. The main impact between the two armies was the spearhead of the German army against second-tier French troops without proper support.

Once the line had been broken, the French were at a severe disadvantage. However, the better caliber troops in Belgium gave a good account of themselves. They held the line along with the British until the decision was made to drive the coast. Not everyone could make it, so the French First Army made a last stand at Lille, fighting until June 1.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 11:07 AM (llXky)

288 Regarding Pratchett, you have to laugh when there is a wizard who has something to do with where all of the unmatched socks go. I can't even describe his writing oh, just thumb a book off the shelf and peek into it.

Posted by: Beverly at July 17, 2022 11:07 AM (KRVZG)

289 Actually, thinking back to it. My first grade teacher was very young and pretty, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th grade teachers were total hagravens, 5th was young and pretty, and 6th grade was another hagraven. There were some that were far worse. My cousin had one that was a real bitch. She actually called my aunt into school one time, because my cousin addressed his mom as "she" instead of "my mother". My aunt was not amused with that teacher.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2022 11:07 AM (VwHCD)

290 Time to get ready for church. Thanks for another great thread, Perfessor.

Next week I will try to be fully caffeinated before posting or maybe just be quiet...

Posted by: screaming in digital at July 17, 2022 11:08 AM (pkAcY)

291 "The Loved One," a satire about Forest Lawn Cemetery in California, although it didn't have to stray far from reality for satire about Forest Lawn back then.

Made into a movie in the 1960s that was advertised as having "something to offend everyone."

Posted by: Wethal at July 17, 2022 11:05 AM (ZzVCK)
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The movie is abjectly terrible. In a way, it made Waugh's point about awful adaptations because it is awful.

Interesting point: Paul Williams plays the rocket-genius kid.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 11:08 AM (llXky)

292 I worked at a Christian camp for several summers *mumble* years ago. The camp director read "The Lion, the Witch, and The Wardrobe" to the support staff (high school and college kids) every evening. We all loved it.
Posted by: screaming in digital at July 17, 2022 11:05 AM (pkAcY)
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Reminds me, years ago, Readers Digest had a humorous story about story time a school did for kids. The school was undergoing some sort of renovation, with constructions workers all over the place, at one point during the year. The teacher noticed the workers would tend to congregate and "work" in the area during story time and had one guy come up to her and ask what had happened the previous day, because he'd been out sick.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 17, 2022 11:09 AM (5pTK/)

293 Since the British Open final round today, my book recommendation is The Legend of Bagger Vance. It's way more than a golf story and as with most books, the movie was a travesty. Admittedly if you are a golfer it might possibly be the best book you've ever read.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 17, 2022 11:09 AM (B4fKI)

294 Dr. Leah Stokes@leahstokes
Hold your children close tonight. Leave some water out for the birds. And make a plan to rip out your gas furnace.

The climate crisis is getting worse, and thanks to Manchin, Congress is one vote short of saving us. We're going to have to save ourselves.


I wonder what the heating value of the average Greentard corpse would be? Looks like it might come to that.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2022 11:09 AM (pF7Nd)

295 Actually, thinking back to it. My first grade teacher was very young and pretty, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th grade teachers were total hagravens, 5th was young and pretty, and 6th grade was another hagraven. There were some that were far worse. My cousin had one that was a real bitch. She actually called my aunt into school one time, because my cousin addressed his mom as "she" instead of "my mother". My aunt was not amused with that teacher.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2022 11:07 AM (VwHCD)
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I don't remember having any young and pretty elementary school teachers. Though I had a couple in high school that stirred some funny feelings...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2022 11:10 AM (K5n5d)

296 Read _The Lord of the Rings_ aloud. It's really great that way. I read it to my kids and it made me appreciate Tolkein's language much more. I suspect he "dictated" it to himself.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 17, 2022 11:11 AM (QZxDR)

297 Milo Y. the "ex gay" who reembraces his RC faith, who writes for "Church Militant" takes on the song by the gay mens chorus about "coming for your kids":

https://tinyurl.com/y6nnpujm

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2022 11:11 AM (FZ2cV)

298 "Sounds like my Detroit station. The classical hours suffer from "jazz creep" (I'm sure the jazz hours don't have Wagner incursions) and I hear more than I need to of Florence Price and William Grant Still (and I really like Still's works)."

Ditto here in central Ohio.

Posted by: Tuna at July 17, 2022 11:11 AM (gLRfa)

299 I had an English teacher that was a smokeshow in hs. Other than that, nothing of note.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2022 11:12 AM (89T5c)

300 hebdomecontacometæ: the people who live in 70 villages. It should mean something else because that's just not exciting enough for such lovely word.

Found in Pliny the Elder's "Natural History." It was in chapter 35, Africa.

HEB-do-meh-CON-ta-co-MEH-tay is how I am choosing to pronounce it. When I was in high school, our music teacher wrote a "song" that consisted of the spoken names of volcanoes. It was quite clever but now I think someone should possibly do that out of the entire Greek language.

Posted by: Tonestaple at July 17, 2022 11:12 AM (3qAOE)

301 Slightly OT, but I think germane. Last night I watched "Val," a documentary by Val Kilmer about himself.

Apparently, he was big into home movies and later video and has a warehouse full of his experiences. I can't help but wonder if his life would have been better spent living it rather than filming everything.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 11:13 AM (llXky)

302 it is said spock was based on william parker, who was hyperrational and mercurial, at various times

Posted by: no 6 at July 17, 2022 11:13 AM (i0Lci)

303 because my cousin addressed his mom as "she" instead of "my mother".
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My great aunt would jump into our you know what for calling my mom "she", I didn't get it.

Posted by: dartist at July 17, 2022 11:14 AM (+ya+t)

304 Dr. Leah Stokes@leahstokes
And make a plan to rip out your gas furnace.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2022 11:09 AM (pF7Nd)
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You first, doc. Let me know how that goes.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 11:14 AM (llXky)

305 Apparently, he was big into home movies and later video and has a warehouse full of his experiences. I can't help but wonder if his life would have been better spent living it rather than filming everything.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 11:13 AM (llXky)
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Sounds like a good question to ask the "Tik-Tok" generation...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 17, 2022 11:15 AM (K5n5d)

306 Dr. Leah Stokes@leahstokes
Hold your children close tonight. Leave some water out for the birds. And make a plan to rip out your gas furnace.

The climate crisis is getting worse, and thanks to Manchin, Congress is one vote short of saving us. We're going to have to save ourselves.
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I wonder what the heating value of the average Greentard corpse would be? Looks like it might come to that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2022 11:09 AM (pF7Nd)

We recommend leaving your gas furnace in place for the upcoming winter season. You're gonna need them.

Posted by: Farmers Almanac for South Texas at July 17, 2022 11:15 AM (4I/2K)

307 I am reading John Mortimer's Rumpole of the Bailey, the source for the BBC TV series with Leo McKern. I've never seen it, but I am aware of the character's raffish and rebellious nature, and of how he refers to his wife as She Who Must Be Obeyed. The first book is a group of short stories about Rumpole's various cases; he narrates them, which is a very good choice. Loads of fun so far.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 17, 2022 11:17 AM (c6xtn)

308 We recommend leaving your gas furnace in place for the upcoming winter season. You're gonna need them.

Posted by: Farmers Almanac for South Texas at July 17, 2022 11:15 AM (4I/2K)
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No, let the libs do it their way. Lead by example, I say.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 11:17 AM (llXky)

309 I, for one, encourage all brain dead liberals to rip out their gas furnaces, grab chain saws and axes, and head on out into the woods to cut firewood. I further suggest cutting this wood the day it is needed, rather than cutting it several months in advance. Remember, we're now a "JIT" economy, and, don't want to stock more wood than is actually needed on a daily basis! Less waste, too!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 17, 2022 11:17 AM (5pTK/)

310 >>> 304 Dr. Leah Stokes@leahstokes
And make a plan to rip out your gas furnace.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2022 11:09 AM (pF7Nd)
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You first, doc. Let me know how that goes.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 11:14 AM (llXky)

Heh. Where does she live? Why isn't she recommending "ripping out" the AC, or for that matter *all* of the erf-raping appliances?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 17, 2022 11:18 AM (llON8)

311 "Dr." Leah Stokes.

Pretty sad that a "Dr." is all bent outta shape about what the grifters in washington do or don't do.

She needs to get a life.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 17, 2022 11:18 AM (R/m4+)

312 I didn't realize "jazz creep" was a common occurrence on nonprofit Classical stations. I certainly noticed it on the public radio station out of New Orleans as a kid. The one where I am now starts an interminable block of propaganda broadcasting from 4 to 8 and then just goes right into the evening jazz show, so there's no chance of bleed-through.

My theory is that the evening classical show gets hosted by the Jazz Guy, and he just can't wait to get to his favorite stuff and starts sneaking it in.

Jazz Guys are always huge pretentious bores who like to refer to dead musicians they've never met by their first names. The only Jazz Guys I really find interesting are the lunatic obsessives who will play obscure wax-cylinder recordings from 1902 of some toothless Mississippi sharecropper playing a one-string banjo and singing something which you nevertheless recognize as "The Girl From Ipanema" or whatever.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 17, 2022 11:19 AM (QZxDR)

313 "307 I am reading John Mortimer's Rumpole of the Bailey, the source for the BBC TV series with Leo McKern. I've never seen it, ......"


Search them out. McKern is excellent as are the other actors.

Posted by: Tuna at July 17, 2022 11:19 AM (gLRfa)

314 "Sounds like my Detroit station. The classical hours suffer from "jazz creep" (I'm sure the jazz hours don't have Wagner incursions) and I hear more than I need to of Florence Price and William Grant Still (and I really like Still's works)."

Ditto here in central Ohio.

Posted by: Tuna at July 17, 2022 11:11 AM (gLRfa)
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The end state for woke culture is the repudiation of all culture. It's all sinful some way. If white people listen to black artists, it's treating them as minstrels.

Wokeness is sin without salvation because there is no forgiveness, ever. There are only The Anointed and the Damned. Sad to see, but they brought it on themselves.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 11:19 AM (llXky)

315 My 3rd grade teacher was a battleaxe, the great stone face was her's. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 17, 2022 11:02 AM (VwHCD)

Mine was wonderful. The stories stayed with me. I only had one terrible grade school teacher, and she was young and angry. They all had their quirks and pet peeves, but none of them (the 1960s) came to the profession with the urge to indoctrinate or neglect their duties.

Posted by: CN at July 17, 2022 11:19 AM (ONvIw)

316 it is said spock was based on william parker, who was hyperrational and mercurial, at various times
Posted by: no 6 at July 17, 2022


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I thought Parker was the police commissioner in LA when Roddenberry was a working cop?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 17, 2022 11:20 AM (c6xtn)

317 Grand Rapids public radio station has a good blues program on the weekend evenings. No politics at all, just blues, old and new. The guy (Greg Blubin) has been doing the show for decades.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 17, 2022 10:02 AM (ufFY

Public radio can do great, if it just sticks to music. If it gets too political, it goes to Hell in hurry.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2022 11:20 AM (eaw7m)

318 287 now the French fought harder in Indochina and Algeria, then they ever did against the Germans, except for the resistance, but they were largely motivated to be part of Stalin's sphere of influence,
Posted by: no 6 at July 17, 2022 11:01 AM (i0Lci)
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That's not entirely fair. The main impact between the two armies was the spearhead of the German army against second-tier French troops without proper support. Once the line had been broken, the French were at a severe disadvantage. However, the better caliber troops in Belgium gave a good account of themselves. They held the line along with the British until the decision was made to drive the coast. Not everyone could make it, so the French First Army made a last stand at Lille, fighting until June 1.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 11:07 AM (llXky)


Also, in Indochina I believe most of the enlisted French nationals were volunteers. French law at that time prohibited sending French draftees to fight outside of Europe. Did this make a major difference? Very probably, but how much is unknown. Plus there were a number of Foreign Legion units there with a number of German WW2 combat veterans.

Posted by: Gref at July 17, 2022 11:20 AM (AMIL/)

319 Heh. Where does she live? Why isn't she recommending "ripping out" the AC, or for that matter *all* of the erf-raping appliances?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 17, 2022 11:18 AM (llON
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I've an idea: Atlanta, GA, mid August. Put her outside, cooking over a fire and see how long before she has a complete nervous breakdown.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 17, 2022 11:20 AM (5pTK/)

320 Jazz Guys are always huge pretentious bores who like to refer to dead musicians they've never met by their first names. The only Jazz Guys I really find interesting are the lunatic obsessives who will play obscure wax-cylinder recordings from 1902 of some toothless Mississippi sharecropper playing a one-string banjo and singing something which you nevertheless recognize as "The Girl From Ipanema" or whatever.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 17, 2022 11:19 AM (QZxDR)
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Clearly you know my father.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 11:20 AM (llXky)

321 Back in the early Seventies, Go Ask Alice, the alleged diary of a teenage girl drug addict who died of an overdose, was everywhere. They even made a TV movie out of it. According to the new book, Unmask Alice, the whole thing was a fraud, made up by a Mormon housewife in her fifties.

Even worse, she later took a real diary of a young man who killed himself and changed him from a guy with depression, worried about being sent to Vietnam, and struggled with his Mormon faith, into a guy who worshipped . . . the DEVIL!!! This worship took the form of orgies and animal sacrifice. Ugh. All the Satanism completely made up.

Posted by: Pete in Texas at July 17, 2022 11:20 AM (2RBkF)

322 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 17, 2022 11:17 AM (c6xtn)

Very good stories!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2022 11:21 AM (FZ2cV)

323 Stokes probably has a 500 gallon oil tank in the basement.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2022 11:21 AM (89T5c)

324 I started listening to Jordan Peterson's "12 Rules..." but I keep having to tune it out when people try to kill me by driving like dunces. I have a print copy here somewhere and I am going to have to read it.

And I am on the second volume of the "Saint Tommy, NYPD" series - enjoying it immensely, except for the descriptions of the abortion abattoirs. I read the Gosnell grand jury report in whole and that was really enough for one lifetime.

Posted by: Tonestaple at July 17, 2022 11:22 AM (3qAOE)

325 but if you could pray for protection for us it would be much appreciated. It goes from 2-5. EST Thanks very much.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Okay

Posted by: JT at July 17, 2022 11:22 AM (T4tVD)

326 Jazz Guys are always huge pretentious bores who like to refer to dead musicians they've never met by their first names. The only Jazz Guys I really find interesting are the lunatic obsessives who will play obscure wax-cylinder recordings from 1902 of some toothless Mississippi sharecropper playing a one-string banjo and singing something which you nevertheless recognize as "The Girl From Ipanema" or whatever.
Posted by: Trimegistus at July 17, 2022


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Some years ago when creating an amateur detective character, I considered making him a jazz buff. There were 2 problems with that: Lots of other detectives, pro and not, have been jazz fans; and I know absolutely nothing about the genre besides the big classic names like Parker. So I settled, happily, for making my lead a country music fan -- something I know, and which as far as I know is rare in fiction set in big cities.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 17, 2022 11:23 AM (c6xtn)

327 The Germans - fiendish bastards that they were - marched in backwards and the French, thinking they were leaving, left their positions to go drink wine and eat cheese. And that's how France fell.

Posted by: Guidons, Guidons...Lariat Advance at July 17, 2022 10:47 AM (afRfN)

....and then, they all joined the resistance.

Posted by: BignJames at July 17, 2022 11:23 AM (AwYPR)

328 >>> 324
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And I am on the second volume of the "Saint Tommy, NYPD" series - enjoying it immensely, except for the descriptions of the abortion abattoirs. I read the Gosnell grand jury report in whole and that was really enough for one lifetime.
Posted by: Tonestaple at July 17, 2022 11:22 AM (3qAOE)

When the author describes his books as Catholic action horror he's not lying with any of those adjectives.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 17, 2022 11:23 AM (llON8)

329 My fifth grade teacher read aloud to us at the end of each day. Little House on the Prairie. I loved her reading voice.
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Every day after lunch was head down on desk while teacher read aloud. The only one I clearly remember was Charlottes Web (and trying to hide my sniffling). An hour for lunch was pretty standard and most of us went home for lunch then played on playground until called back.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 17, 2022 11:23 AM (MIKMs)

330 who is this leah stokes is she some sort of authority, and what about china and india's emissions,

Posted by: no 6 at July 17, 2022 11:24 AM (i0Lci)

331 I've got a wood stove, and in past years it was mostly an aesthetic accessory -- the house just feels cozier when you've got a fire going, but of course the boiler in the basement does the real work.

Not this year. I'm stacking wood like a madman because I'm expecting that will be what keeps the house livable this winter.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 17, 2022 11:24 AM (QZxDR)

332 Posted by: Pete in Texas at July 17, 2022 11:20 AM (2RBkF)

A shame she did that. It would be more interesting to read accounts of actual exorcists or an account of some depressed person who came to embrace their Christian faith

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2022 11:24 AM (FZ2cV)

333 who is this leah stokes is she some sort of authority, and what about china and india's emissions,
Posted by: no 6 at July 17, 2022


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I read that as *nocturnal* emissions.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 17, 2022 11:25 AM (c6xtn)

334 Some years ago when creating an amateur detective character, I considered making him a jazz buff. There were 2 problems with that: Lots of other detectives, pro and not, have been jazz fans; and I know absolutely nothing about the genre besides the big classic names like Parker.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 17, 2022 11:23 AM (c6xtn)
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The Waugh solution would be to make up comically obscure and absurd jazz figures, which the character would bring up to torment various experts on the genre.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 11:25 AM (llXky)

335 After the reading portion, we'd go and check out books. I always went to the 940s of course.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 10:55 AM (llXky)

Without cheating, I'm guessing that's one of the world wars

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 17, 2022 11:25 AM (kf6Ak)

336 324 I started listening to Jordan Peterson's "12 Rules..." but I keep having to tune it out when people try to kill me by driving like dunces. I have a print copy here somewhere and I am going to have to read it.


I'm listening to Beyond Order by Peterson, which could be called 12 Rules part II. He talks a lot about the importance of cleaning up your house. Maybe I need to get down and dirty and do that. Making my house clean and attractive might help with my low grade depression.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at July 17, 2022 11:26 AM (eGTCV)

337 306. The greens around here are nuts on fossil fuels, I'm not sure where they thing the electricity for home heating comes from. Then, they're addled to begin with. One of the biggest neighborhood greenies, who disparages my generac, must have her lawn sprayed for something at least every other week and there are generations of "pesticide application" signs on the lawn. A bright green weed free lawn takes many chemicals and heavy duty irrigation. Yet, she and the husband constantly decry farm fertilizers, etc as horrible for the precious planet. Interestingly they have a small garden this year...on top of all those fertilizers, pesticides, herbicides and fungicides, they even used an antibiotic once. Must be healthy AF for the planet and their diet.

Posted by: CN at July 17, 2022 11:26 AM (ONvIw)

338 I haven't seen any jazz creep on Wisconsin Public Radio but I mostly listne on Sunday mornings while reading the book thread. In fact, WPR has had the opposite problem. When I started listening in the 80's they had a half jazz show every evening, long jazz shows on Saturday nights (with Michael Hansen, a superb radio voice) and Saturday (and maybe Sunday, memories fade) they had a 2 or 3 hour show in the afternoon. The Saturday afternoon guy - unfortunately I've forgotten his name, was great. Mostly old stuff from the 20s and 30s, Michael Hansen w played newer jazz and always did a great Christmas jazz show in December, I taped one of those and eventually got it converted to CD and I replay in every year. It's one of my favorite holiday traditions.

Posted by: who knew at July 17, 2022 11:27 AM (4I7VG)

339 wxrt in Chicago has a great blues program on Sunday's at 10 pm. Really good history of artists I had never heard and a great selection of tunes.

Posted by: dartist at July 17, 2022 11:27 AM (+ya+t)

340 Making my house clean and attractive might help with my low grade depression.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at July 17, 2022 11:26 AM (eGTCV)


I've noticed that keeping my living areas minimal, clean and simple does help with depression. Live lightly.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 17, 2022 11:28 AM (45fpk)

341 And with that...I was out.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at July 17, 2022 10:17 AM (xcxpd)

"Sherwood Smith"? Sounds like a pr0nstar name.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2022 11:28 AM (eaw7m)

342 Give your character a very spirited girly garrett-like energy and make your character a fan of the coolies.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 17, 2022 11:28 AM (0ocXn)

343 Well, time to wander, as church beckons.

later!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 17, 2022 11:28 AM (5pTK/)

344 Most recent figure I heard (not vouching for its accuracy) is that China currently produces about half the world's carbon emissions, and are increasing daily.

Until American "progressives" acknowledge this and make it the main focus of their efforts to Save The Planet, I will treat them as dupes and fools who are just babbling cant they do not actually believe or understand.

At social events I frequently tell people that I heat with wood to "reduce my carbon footprint" and they all nod and smile and say what a great idea that is. Idiots.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 17, 2022 11:29 AM (QZxDR)

345 I had an English teacher that was a smokeshow in hs. Other than that, nothing of note.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 17, 2022 11:12 AM (89T5c)

Mine was the 25 year-old music teacher who came into my late 60's elementary school class every Thursday afternoon in a mini-skirt and white go-go boots - whoa!

Posted by: Boswell at July 17, 2022 11:29 AM (+Cgut)

346 Hiya Screamie !

Posted by: JT at July 17, 2022 11:30 AM (T4tVD)

347 One of my ex-friends is a failed pornographer. A real resume-enhancer.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 10:20 AM (llXky)

He evidently didn't wholeheartedly pursue quality control.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2022 11:30 AM (eaw7m)

348 Hiya Donna of the Ampersands !

Posted by: JT at July 17, 2022 11:30 AM (T4tVD)

349 and who is the authority on go alice, im suspicious, since we seem to be spiraling toward a pagan age,

Posted by: no 6 at July 17, 2022 11:30 AM (i0Lci)

350 A shame she did that. It would be more interesting to read accounts of actual exorcists or an account of some depressed person who came to embrace their Christian faith

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2022 11:24 AM (FZ2cV)
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Diary of an American Exorcist by Msgr Stephen Rossetti will scratch that itch.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 11:30 AM (llXky)

351 Definite Jazz creep here, enough that the local station added a second station to accommodate it.

Posted by: CN at July 17, 2022 11:30 AM (ONvIw)

352 Greetings:

What about a Catholic altar boy solving murders in the Bronx of the 50s and 60s ????

Posted by: 11B40 at July 17, 2022 11:32 AM (uuklp)

353
Without cheating, I'm guessing that's one of the world wars

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 17, 2022 11:25 AM (kf6Ak)
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Competition for the WW II stuff often intense, which is why I started reading about WW I instead. It stuck with me.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 11:32 AM (llXky)

354 I usually listen to the local classical radio station but not on Sundays because that's jazz day. Yuck.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 17, 2022 11:32 AM (kf6Ak)

355 Diary of an American Exorcist by Msgr Stephen Rossetti will scratch that itch.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 11:30 AM (llXky)


We have a couple of books on exorcism here at home. Rev has been involved in a few. I would never read those. I stay away as far as I can from that stuff.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 17, 2022 11:33 AM (45fpk)

356 General Milley refuses to answer if he ordered military not to follow President Trump's orders...

Control of the national press,
stuffing ballot boxes, insubordinate military...

It was a "coup-coup".

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 17, 2022 11:33 AM (VB8Lx)

357
who knew


He wrote a lot. Look up Pierre Francis de Marigny Berton

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at July 17, 2022 11:33 AM (DyKLy)

358 However, Satanism itself isn't made up and more people are embracing that and other pagan religions.

The account of the writer of "Go Ask Alice" as a fraud appeared in my" local" paper (NY Post) in the back section of which must be where some of the leftists hang out and which they write for. It usually contains reviews about books in which about eminent men in the community (usually in Victorian or Edwardian times) who seduced and murdered their maids or other accounts about women "embracing freedom " when they left their Orthodox Jewish faith or articles about books about "How I'm so happy since I gave up monogamy for polygamy".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2022 11:35 AM (FZ2cV)

359 He evidently didn't wholeheartedly pursue quality control.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2022 11:30 AM (eaw7m)
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No, terrible business sense and he got too absorbed in his work. By that I mean, there is a clear (and obvious) difference between a photographer who has a degree of clinical detachment with the subject matter (distracted by technique and lighting) and one who is shooting with his dick.

Sad. Pretty much had to purge my friends circle because I don't stand to be around people like that.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 11:35 AM (llXky)

360 Anyone remember "progressive jazz" from the early 70s? Yeah, it was noise.

Posted by: BignJames at July 17, 2022 11:35 AM (AwYPR)

361 Oh, reminds me
A article during week from a retired Maj about Gen Milley and its not a nice book for him. How he sold out on troops under him.

Posted by: Skip at July 17, 2022 11:35 AM (2JoB8)

362
I'm listening to Beyond Order by Peterson, which could be called 12 Rules part II. He talks a lot about the importance of cleaning up your house. Maybe I need to get down and dirty and do that. Making my house clean and attractive might help with my low grade depression.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at July 17, 2022 11:26 AM (eGTCV)


Start small steps, clean a room, and make it the best you can. Then expand.
(I got the suggestion to make and use a checklist to keep on track)
If you go "clean full house" straight out of the box, you will get as exhausted and demotivated as if you decided to run a 10K because you haven't run in years and think it is a good way to ease into running a marathon

Posted by: Kindltot at July 17, 2022 11:35 AM (xhaym)

363 Gen. Milley is "coup-coup".

Posted by: dartist at July 17, 2022 11:35 AM (+ya+t)

364 Experiments show that 68% of the adult population, upon hearing a jazz Trio, instinctively looks to see how long the line is at the brunch buffet.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at July 17, 2022 11:35 AM (mIpqM)

365 and who is the authority on go alice, im suspicious, since we seem to be spiraling toward a pagan age,
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Jefferson Airplane.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 17, 2022 11:36 AM (MIKMs)

366 Whenever I go to Boston I enjoy listening to the Other Classical Station there (can't recall the call sign). It's nothing but music, no NPR Pravda or goddamned Fresh Air smug idiocy. The only downside is that it's "classical music for people with ADHD" so they don't play entire symphonies or complete long works, just the best-known parts.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 17, 2022 11:36 AM (QZxDR)

367 358Neo-paganism is very chic.

Posted by: CN at July 17, 2022 11:36 AM (ONvIw)

368 France didn't learn from WW1 or WW2. Germany attacked France from Belgium in WW1 but they completely ruled out the Germans doing that in WW2. That's some top level incompetence right there. Anyway in Vietnam they continued to think a stagnant defense line or base was the way to go. They are pretty hard headed.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 17, 2022 11:36 AM (B4fKI)

369 Greetings:

When I first got deported to the Frisco Bay Area in the early '80s, there was a jazz station, KJAZ, that broadcast a "Dinner Jazz" segment from 6pm to 8pm wherein the announcer mostly kept a sock in his mouth.

Delicious.

Posted by: 11B40 at July 17, 2022 11:36 AM (uuklp)

370 We have a couple of books on exorcism here at home. Rev has been involved in a few. I would never read those. I stay away as far as I can from that stuff.

Posted by: grammie winger at July 17, 2022 11:33 AM (45fpk)
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I thought this would be a "read only during broad daylight" kind of book, but it's not like that at all. Reassuring and interesting. I've been praying for the exorcists ever since.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 11:36 AM (llXky)

371 Most recent figure I heard (not vouching for its accuracy) is that China currently produces about half the world's carbon emissions, and are increasing daily.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 17, 2022 11:29 AM (QZxDR)
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Aussie Tim Blair always like to joke that if it is the moral equivalent of WW II, when do we nuke China?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 11:38 AM (llXky)

372 Dr. Leah Stokes@leahstokes
And make a plan to rip out your gas furnace.


What an emo git. These leftards just can't contain their own stoopid.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 17, 2022 11:40 AM (Xrfse)

373 Start small steps, clean a room, and make it the best you can. Then expand.
(I got the suggestion to make and use a checklist to keep on track)

Posted by: Kindltot at July 17, 2022 11:35 AM (xhaym)
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Yep, and if you get sidetracked (by necessity something else has to get cleaned before you can continue) *write that down* and then check it off.

The list keeps you focused but also helps you feel like you are making progress.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 11:41 AM (llXky)

374 Perfessor Squirrel: I really like the Mexican Library murals. Absolutely fascinating and grounded in history and aspiration -- like the atomic flower in the front. Wonderful to see it especially lit up like at dusk or dawn.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 17, 2022 11:41 AM (MIKMs)

375 >>>Anyone remember "progressive jazz" from the early 70s? Yeah, it was noise.

>If your Sunday brunch ambiance doesn't feature yacht rock it's going to make it more difficult to go for that 4th mimosa.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 17, 2022 11:41 AM (0ocXn)

376 I never realized how desperately short of weapons the Germans were until I began watching Forgotten Weapons and realized that with the fall of each country - even minor ones - the Reich got a trove of weapons to continue the war."

Yep. The other thing the Germans were desperately short of was oil. If they had focused on knocking out the Brits in the ME instead of invading the USSR they could have gotten access to the oil fields there and the war might have ended differently. At the very least, German access to oil would have kept the war grinding on for a few more years.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at July 17, 2022 11:41 AM (HabA/)

377 " I remember my Grade 1 teacher reading Danny Meadow Mouse aloud, That may not have been the actual title of the book." N.L. Urker
From the Thorton W Burrgess "Mother West Wind"series/collection...
My grandfather had them all, and a Steiiff animal to go with each book, each time we stayed over there would be several reading sessions...later we were allowed to pick one to take home(the Steiff stuffie came with it) Thence Mom/Dad, We, took turns reading...next visit we'd return it and pick another.
When he died the duplicates got distributed to the grand kids(now all adults)...the "Collection" of both books and stuffed critters was donated to the local library to be displayed and read....they never actually did that though. One of these days I'm going to go to that Library and demand it all back if it is still in storage. Burgess wrote over 150books, and 15,000 newspaper columns.
I have 26 on my shelves.Including Peter Rabbit, and two starring Danny Meadow Mouse.

Posted by: Birddog at July 17, 2022 11:42 AM (uAI4S)

378 Greetings:

If you have to vacuum more than twice a year, your shag is too short.

Posted by: 11B40 at July 17, 2022 11:42 AM (uuklp)

379 Amusing to notice how radio announcer voices match the music. Country DJs always sound like good ol' boys even if they grew up in Teaneck New Jersey. Top 40 or Classic Rock DJs sound like, well, DJs. Jazz Guys sound like they've got a toupee and a medallion. And the Classical Guys sound like schoolmarms.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 17, 2022 11:42 AM (QZxDR)

380 What an emo git. These leftards just can't contain their own stoopid.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 17, 2022 11:40 AM (Xrfse)
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The choice of language is interesting. No one "rips out" a gas furnace. You disconnect them, but they aren't ripped out. Have had two replaced, no ripping.

She's clearly fantasizing about weeping hillbillies taking a wrench to their beloved....gas furnace???

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 11:43 AM (llXky)

381 373 Start small steps, clean a room, and make it the best you can. Then expand.
(I got the suggestion to make and use a checklist to keep on track)

Posted by: Kindltot at July 17, 2022 11:35 AM (xhaym)
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Yep, and if you get sidetracked (by necessity something else has to get cleaned before you can continue) *write that down* and then check it off.

The list keeps you focused but also helps you feel like you are making progress.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 11:41 AM (llXky)

Thanks for the suggestions. Peterson seems to recommend starting with the bedroom. He also recommends making the office not just clean but as attractive as possible.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at July 17, 2022 11:44 AM (eGTCV)

382 Well, time for Mass. Thanks again, "perfesser!"

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at July 17, 2022 11:44 AM (llXky)

383 Greetings:

RE: Progressive Jazz

In the Frisco Bay Area, Windham Hill music was known as "white jazz".

Posted by: 11B40 at July 17, 2022 11:44 AM (uuklp)

384 Greetings:

RE: Progressive Jazz

Also,I seem to remember "jazz fusion" like Billy Cobham and/or Pat Metheny being payed on rock stations.

Posted by: 11B40 at July 17, 2022 11:47 AM (uuklp)

385 My father had a bunch of Windham Hill CD's. When we cleaned out their place after my mom died for some reason my wife picked up about a dozen of them to play in this old Bose CD player that looks like a clock radio.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 17, 2022 11:47 AM (BFigT)

386 Also,I seem to remember "jazz fusion" like Billy Cobham and/or Pat Metheny being payed on rock stations.

Posted by: 11B40

Payola ?

Posted by: JT at July 17, 2022 11:48 AM (T4tVD)

387 11B40: That's something that really rustles my jimmies. The continuing airbrushing out of history of white American jazz pioneers. For every Louis Armstrong there was a Louis Prima. For every Miles Davis there was a Dave Brubeck. Acknowledging the contributions of one group should not require minimizing or erasing the contributions of others.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 17, 2022 11:48 AM (QZxDR)

388 368 France didn't learn from WW1 or WW2. Germany attacked France from Belgium in WW1 but they completely ruled out the Germans doing that in WW2."

Actually, they didn't. Their mistake was thinking that the Germans would follow the Schlieffen Plan of 1914 and sweep through flat north-western Belgium into France. So that's where they focused their armies. Instead the Germans smashed through the Ardennes in the center. The frogs thought the Ardennes were impenetrable so they stationed their weakest forces there, despite the fact that they received many warning about a huge buildup of German forces in the center. And the Germans completely ignored the Maginot Line in the south, where there was another big buildup of French forces. And French communications were so crappy that they couldn't pivot and adjust in time.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at July 17, 2022 11:48 AM (HabA/)

389 70. 294. AP - Biden vowing strong climate action despite dual setbacks.

Biden "Will not back down." He's being urged by some advocates to declare a national emergency, reinstate a ban on crude oil exports, etc.

"Declaring a climate emergency would allow Biden to redirect spending to accelerate renewable energy...and speed the nation's transition away from fossil fuels..."

UK has issued a climate emergency. Spain, Portugal and others are currently dealing with many heart-related deaths, wild fires.

US can piggyback on concept. (And O's people can prepare the E.O.)

Posted by: Lola at July 17, 2022 11:49 AM (NIYa7)

390 Jazz fusion. Wasn't that hCarles' thing at little gruen snotballz?

Posted by: grammie winger at July 17, 2022 11:49 AM (45fpk)

391 Before I metamorphose into a Jazz Bore I guess I'd better go mow the lawn now.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 17, 2022 11:49 AM (QZxDR)

392 Boker Tov Patriots

Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 17, 2022 11:49 AM (Irn0L)

393 Thanks for the suggestions. Peterson seems to recommend starting with the bedroom. He also recommends making the office not just clean but as attractive as possible.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at July 17, 2022 11:44 AM (eGTCV


If you are completely swamped and overwhelmed, start with the bathroom. It is easier to figure if something belongs there or not, and you can tell if it is clean. That is a good, fast, success to build on.

Also, liquid laundry soap works pretty good at getting hard water scum off of the shower walls and fittings. Just rinse extra well because of slip hazard

Posted by: Kindltot at July 17, 2022 11:50 AM (xhaym)

394 Hi, JT!

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V at July 17, 2022 11:50 AM (HabA/)

395 >>>No one "rips out" a gas furnace.

Sure you can.
Wrap a chain around. Hook the other end to your trusty F150 and give it the tug and jerk.
Not unlike pulling a stump.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at July 17, 2022 11:50 AM (9lz51)

396 The Germans - fiendish bastards that they were - marched in backwards and the French, thinking they were leaving, left their positions to go drink wine and eat cheese. And that's how France fell.
Posted by: Guidons, Guidons...Lariat Advance at July 17, 2022 10:47 AM (afRfN)

Yup....Archie Bunker said the Germans were able to march right into France because the frogs were too busy putting cheese on everything to fight.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at July 17, 2022 11:51 AM (R/m4+)

397 As we are oozing away from pure reads to radio, I'll put in a plug for the terrific music programs on WAAM -- https://waamradio.com/shows/ --
Starting with the Bone Conduction Music Show (wig-singeing rock and roll) at 4pm ET on Saturday, the music runs through Sunday 4am.

Posted by: sinmi at July 17, 2022 11:51 AM (W/XS6)

398 HEAT related

Posted by: Lola at July 17, 2022 11:51 AM (NIYa7)

399 That's something that really rustles my jimmies. The continuing airbrushing out of history of white American jazz pioneers. For every Louis Armstrong there was a Louis Prima. For every Miles Davis there was a Dave Brubeck. Acknowledging the contributions of one group should not require minimizing or erasing the contributions of others.

Posted by: Trimegistus at July 17, 2022 11:48 AM (QZxDR)

Paul Whiteman: Fat, White guy from the 20s through the 40s. The King of Jazz.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 17, 2022 11:51 AM (7bRMQ)

400 I listen to Charlie Parker and John Coltrane
Bebop jazz.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 17, 2022 11:51 AM (B4fKI)

401 Also,I seem to remember "jazz fusion" like Billy Cobham and/or Pat Metheny being payed on rock stations.

Posted by: 11B40

The progressive stuff I'm thinking of was pretty much up-dated be bop.

Posted by: BignJames at July 17, 2022 11:51 AM (AwYPR)

402 Hiya Captain !

Posted by: JT at July 17, 2022 11:51 AM (T4tVD)

403
@leahstokes


She's emoji literate! Can you say the same thing?

https://emoji.life/leahstokes/

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at July 17, 2022 11:51 AM (DyKLy)

404 Hi, JT!
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&&&V

Posted by: JT at July 17, 2022 11:53 AM (T4tVD)

405
Itinerant Alley Butcher


Failing to close off the gas feed line makes the whole exercise more "sporty"!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at July 17, 2022 11:53 AM (DyKLy)

406 My favorite jazz song is Coltrane's Mr PC.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 17, 2022 11:53 AM (B4fKI)

407 Prayer request: I am not at church today (I went to another service earlier this morning) because I am involved with a free picnic for local conservatives with a group that is going to have conservative political speakers, talks on education as well as Mark Zuckerberg's involvement with work to affect voting,and a showing of the Movie, "Rigged" about the 2020 election. The picnic hasn't been held in two years because of Corona. In the past leftist people have put graffiti up and broken the signs. There will be some police there, but if you could pray for protection for us it would be much appreciated. It goes from 2-5. EST Thanks very much.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 17, 2022 10:31 AM (FZ2cV)

I could take a drive over there with a few "friends" to make sure the leftists behave themselves. A little "gentle persuasion", if you will.

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at July 17, 2022 11:55 AM (Zvtjl)

408 I hiked last week at a state park I picked out because I hadn’t been there before. Hiked a good eight miles that day before checking out due to 100 degree weather when it wasn’t even noon…

But I needed to do that. Living here has aggravated my lungs very severely to the point the usual activities I’m sure the author of “The Comfort Crisis” would say would make most people uncomfortable completely impossible. So I am trying to get back into the swing of things. Slowly.

The book I am reading now: Frank Dikotter’s “The Cultural Revolution”. Time to go sweep away some monsters and demons…

Posted by: Cow Demon at July 17, 2022 11:55 AM (CdZ4i)

409 Greetings:

When I first got deported to the Frisco Bay Area in the early '80s, there was a jazz station, KJAZ, that broadcast a "Dinner Jazz" segment from 6pm to 8pm wherein the announcer mostly kept a sock in his mouth.

Delicious.
Posted by: 11B40 at July 17, 2022 11:36 AM (uuklp)

People tend to forget that jazz was the popular music form from circa 1920 until the dawn of the Rock & Roll era. Not all jazz is tiresome tuneless noodling on some instrument.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2022 11:56 AM (G28Tr)

410 Upthread -- Beverly, Pratchett has been a force in the US for many years. My youngest was in some little bookstore in Arkansas and was dragged out by her compadres because she and the owner were comparing notes on current favorites and looking to settle in for the day.

Turtles all the way.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 17, 2022 11:56 AM (MIKMs)

411 Working on edits for the newest book. There will be another Moron Book for the Book thread soon!

I also miss Machines for Sale. Did anyone capture those snippets for posterity?

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at July 17, 2022 11:56 AM (zNcSj)

412 I put this on hold at the library since it's alt-hist time travel

The Crossing
by Kevin Ikenberry
When a squad of ROTC cadets training at Fort Dix, New Jersey, in November 2008 find themselves transported to December 1776 in the days before the Battle of Trenton, they find a Continental Army in disarray and General George Washington contemplating the potential of a bleak future. To make matters worse, they’ve lost a modern M-16 rifle to a roving Hessian patrol. Understanding the ramifications of such a discovery, the cadets have no choice but to report to General Washington. Without ammunition or their own meager supplies, can Cadet Sergeant Jameel Mason and his friends steel Washington’s courage and set the infancy of the United States of America back on track?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 17, 2022 11:57 AM (kf6Ak)

413 James Hornfischer was author of several outstanding books on the US Navy. He was so highly regarded by the service that the Navy awarded him the Distinguished Public Service Award, the highest honor the Navy can give a civilian. It was presented with Admirals and Captains present, shortly before died of cancer last year at 55.

You might give "The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors" for a riveting tale of Navy courage in WWII

Posted by: JM in Florida at July 17, 2022 11:57 AM (Z58Db)

414 At some point I’d love to see a pic of the Alkek Library here. It is on a height that dominates San Marcos, TX. You can’t miss the library as you drive down I-35. Full disclosure: I have spent a great deal of time in the library conducting research.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 17, 2022 11:57 AM (CdZ4i)

415
I also miss Machines for Sale. Did anyone capture those snippets for posterity?
Posted by: Sabrina


They are still out there, but to search for them through dead threads would be a total PITA.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at July 17, 2022 11:58 AM (DyKLy)

416 When I hear talk about jazz fusion I think of Tom Scott and the L.A. Express or Larry Carlton.


Time for a bloody mary, a little brunch and a book in the back yard before it gets to 105deg F.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 17, 2022 11:58 AM (0ocXn)

417 Jazz + Jazz = Jazz

https://tinyurl.com/44fu8tkf

Posted by: DB at July 17, 2022 12:00 PM (geLO8)

418 Good luck, Fenelon. I pray for your safety.

Posted by: JM in Florida at July 17, 2022 12:00 PM (Z58Db)

419 People tend to forget that jazz was the popular music form from circa 1920 until the dawn of the Rock & Roll era. Not all jazz is tiresome tuneless noodling on some instrument.
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I always wonder when blues became separate from jazz. I never admit to liking jazz because so much is trainwreck self-indulgence (in with the in crowd), but just talk about blues.

Posted by: mustbequantum at July 17, 2022 12:00 PM (MIKMs)

420 411 Working on edits for the newest book. There will be another Moron Book for the Book thread soon!

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at July 17, 2022 11:56 AM (zNcSj)


YAY!

Posted by: sinmi at July 17, 2022 12:00 PM (W/XS6)

421 Coleman Hawkins and that mellow tenor sax is nice when I'm in the mood.

Posted by: dartist at July 17, 2022 12:01 PM (+ya+t)

422 I believe I've mentioned this before, but the classical music station here in Dallas is commercial, not public. So not only are we spared NPR "news" but the music is mostly popular pieces, even if the ones written in the 20th and 21st centuries: Gershwin, Copland, Vaughan Williams, Khachaturian, John Williams, etc.

But there's now a fly in the chardonnay: a commercial with the local "Invest Wisely for Retirement" lady who is interviewing . . . Mike Pence.

Posted by: Pete in Texas at July 17, 2022 12:01 PM (2RBkF)

423 The Afternoon NOOD IS upon us

Posted by: Skip advising you of your Nood threads at July 17, 2022 12:01 PM (2JoB8)

424 You might give "The Last Stand of the Tin Can Sailors" for a riveting tale of Navy courage in WWII

An excellent read.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 17, 2022 12:02 PM (Xrfse)

425 This week I finished some things that had been long in process - June was terrible for reading and I don't know why. I've not had a drought like that in *years*.

Finished listening to the Rachel McAdams narration of Anne of Green Gables, and I recommend it highly. My only wish is that she would go ahead and read the rest of the "Anne books" as well. My grandgirls are going to love listening to this one.

Finished a reread of C. S. Lewis' book The Great Divorce. This book changed my faith life when I read it in college. It is still a 5 star book for me. I needed to read it this year. It helped.

Also read J. L. Carr's short novel A Month in the Country. I'm reading along with the Close Reads podcast folks. I never would have run across this one any other way. While it gets massively great reviews on Goodreads, I'm more on the "meh, it was OK" side of things. While certainly beautifully written, I just wasn't bowled over by it the way others apparently are. Oh, well. It just proves that no matter what the book, not every book is for every body, I guess.

In the midst of Prachett's Equal Rites - which is the 2nd Discworld book I've read. It makes me laugh.

Posted by: SummaMamaT - the one always late to the party at July 17, 2022 12:04 PM (USQVR)

426 I always wonder when blues became separate from jazz. I never admit to liking jazz because so much is trainwreck self-indulgence (in with the in crowd), but just talk about blues.
Posted by: mustbequantum at July 17, 2022 12:00 PM (MIKMs)

I think blues existed as a separate thing before the advent of jazz, and it was one of the wells that jazz drew from, along with Gospel music and classical music. There are plenty of jazz hits based on old blues songs, or with "blues" in the title.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 17, 2022 12:04 PM (G28Tr)

427 Starbucks can only succeed in a high-trust society.

Same with 24-hour 7/11.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 17, 2022 12:08 PM (C1rbv)

428 I went to a tiny Montessori school down in Dallas in the early 70s. I remember the priest reading to us the 20 minutes or so before recess while we ate our lunch. I distinctly remember him reading The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe to us. It was incredible. Sometimes we would beg for him to keep reading through recess.

I read those books dozens of times. Mostly under the covers with a flashlight, well after bedtime.

Thank you, Fr Heard.

Posted by: nurse ratched at July 17, 2022 12:13 PM (U2p+3)

429 249: my otherwise beloved fourth grade teacher read to us “The Chronicles of Narnia”. She got through “The Silver Chair” as I recall. Any inclination I had for fantasy was promptly killed.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 17, 2022 12:29 PM (CdZ4i)

430 271: was your fifth grade class in Germany?

You could be describing my fourth grade teacher, who became a fifth grade teacher the following year.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 17, 2022 12:35 PM (CdZ4i)

431 Mary Stewart's Madam, Will You Talk is tremendous fun. Highly recommended.

Posted by: Laura Montgomery at July 17, 2022 01:08 PM (wnUM+)

432 Can anyone recommend the Kindle ereader. I’m thinking of getting one but wanted to see if any fellow morons had a recommendation. Thanks.

Posted by: RetSgtRN at July 17, 2022 01:16 PM (NVtgT)

433 A red dwarf video?! Didn't see that one coming! Nice.

Posted by: Draki at July 17, 2022 01:19 PM (oJyfm)

434 Back from church.

My teacher in fifth and sixth grades -- small school; we shared the classroom -- would read to us after lunch. Only book I remember was "Isle of Blue Dolphins."

When my eldest was around 5, I tried to read Lee/Ditko Spider-Man stories to him. That's when I realized how wordy Lee was. I started editing on the fly. Still made my throat hurt.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 17, 2022 01:35 PM (Om/di)

435 Thanks for Anonysaurus Wrecks for the reminder on "Secret Sea" by Robb White. I remember the book vividly from my much younger days, if not the title.

I looked up Robb White on Thriftbooks and found he wrote another seagoing novel I read till it fell apart, "Up Periscope", about a UDT diver tasked with infiltrating a Japanese base from a submarine. Gripping stuff, at least to a 10 year old kid.

Posted by: George V at July 17, 2022 01:43 PM (ugbqN)

436 When a cute young woman was hired to teach English in my high school, Mom said she expected a lot of senior boys would try to enroll in her class.

I was in her class a few years later. Yes, she was attractive, but not enough to distract me.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 17, 2022 01:54 PM (Om/di)

437 @368 --

Gen. Strong touches on that French idiocy in his book.

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 17, 2022 01:57 PM (Om/di)

438 I think I still have my copy (Scholastic) of The Secret Sea.

And my Scholastic version of "The Runaway Robot" is still on my shelf. Ostensibly by Lester del Rey, it is supposedly actually written by Paul W. Fairman. Who knows?

That's the book that got me started.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 17, 2022 02:12 PM (m0zqP)

439 Ahh...Catch Thirty-Thr33
I have quite fond memories of San Marcos, where I crammed 3 years of education into a mere ten years.
I majored in Campus Wildlife, with concurrent minors in Amateur Pharmacology and Frisbeeology. Knew George Strait when he was just a "band member" with Ace in the Hole, SRV when he was just a guest guitarist with Paul Ray and the Cobras. Floated the river with Chris Cross, Van Wilkes, and some dude named Gibbons, sat in with Willie, Waylon and the Boys at Cheatham Street before they had ever been to Luchenbach..or Terlingua. Joe "king" Carrasco was actually more popular....also un-memorably about the scene at that time was a punk kid named Taylor Sheriden.

Posted by: Birddog at July 17, 2022 02:21 PM (uAI4S)

440 432 Can anyone recommend the Kindle ereader. I’m thinking of getting one but wanted to see if any fellow morons had a recommendation. Thanks.
Posted by: RetSgtRN at July 17, 2022 01:16 PM (NVtgT)

The kindle paperwhite is considered the best for actually reading books,as it's screen can be read even in outdoor sunlight. Pricey, though.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 17, 2022 02:45 PM (kf6Ak)

441 432 Can anyone recommend the Kindle ereader. I’m thinking of getting one but wanted to see if any fellow morons had a recommendation. Thanks.
Posted by: RetSgtRN at July 17, 2022 01:16 PM (NVtgT)

I've had mine since 2008. well, I'm on my 4th one now, I think. Dropped the first one and broke the screen; then just upgraded.

My best excuse for it when i bought it was my 2 weeks in Buenos Aires (son's wedding), it saved a bunch of space since i typically read 2-6 books a week. since i've been retired, i've got Kindle Unlimited which I hope is costing Amazon since i read as much as i do.

I like it, but i'm starting to stray back into paper for books I want to keep.

Posted by: yara at July 17, 2022 03:10 PM (hBsVD)

442 Long time lurker, first time commenter.

I love the MHI series. Found the first one through Baen's library and have them all in Kindle/E-book form. They'll always have a soft spot for me because the late fiancé and I would listen to them together. She was an accountant and started because Larry was an accountant and Owen is one, in addition to being a professional monster hunter.

Posted by: The Livewire at July 17, 2022 03:15 PM (y/cnf)

443 @379 --

You ever see the SNL sketch in which Dan Ackroyd(sp?) is a DJ for an AM and an FM station? He alternates voices and attitudes as needed.

The FM DJ: "Yeahhh ...."

Posted by: Weak Geek at July 17, 2022 03:20 PM (Om/di)

444 Welcome to The Livewire!

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