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Wednesday Morning Rant [Joe Mannix]
The last several years have been a time of continuing existential conflict and this is now being recognized by more and more people. The intellectual class has been exposed to be craven and stupid. That cannot be undiscovered. The global power class has been exposed to have nearly limitless power and zero regard for morality, righteousness or honor. That cannot be unlearned. The social and cultural institutions have demonstrated that they are at war against the wider populations worldwide. This cannot be forgotten. Perhaps most important of all, the political system has been exposed to be hopelessly corrupt, from the basement mail room all the way to the highest seats of power. This cannot be unseen.
Because of this exposure - because of what we've learned and what they have demonstrated - it is no longer possible to go back. The idea of restoration - that the damage can be undone, that the malefactors can be punished, that the institutions can be repaired, that the government can be fixed and returned to republicanism (concept, not party) as we knew it - is another in a long line of hoping for status quo ante. What comes out of this existential conflict that is gripping the world will not be restoration any more than the NT crowd's expectation that the conservatives will come back to the plantation in the post-Trump era will be fulfilled. What will come out of this will be the same thing that always come out of a major conflict, military or otherwise: something new. What the world looks like after all this is settled is a mystery, but the only thing of which I am confident is that it will be something different. The institutions, offices, countries and the like may all have the same names (they probably will), but they will be in a new real form. The postwar world in which most of us grew up is ending and will no longer exist. It will vanish as completely as the prewar world vanished. We have some control over what comes out on the other side of the conflict, but it will not be the restoration of the world as we knew it. Status quo ante will be as impossible for us as it was for our ancestors.Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Puddinhead at July 06, 2022 11:01 AM (xSnmX)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 06, 2022 11:02 AM (kxFWR)
Posted by: Diogenes at July 06, 2022 11:02 AM (anj39)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 06, 2022 11:02 AM (Irn0L)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 06, 2022 11:02 AM (Rcp6g)
Posted by: Diogenes at July 06, 2022 11:03 AM (anj39)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 06, 2022 11:03 AM (b2nrj)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 06, 2022 11:02 AM (kxFWR)
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Do not tell this to the people responsible for "Jurassic Park" or they will make it a sad reality.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 06, 2022 11:03 AM (WWh8n)
Posted by: Skip's phone at July 06, 2022 11:04 AM (HSMP5)
https://bit.ly/3NN4yFK
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 06, 2022 10:36 AM (FVME7)
The police are shooting mostly peaceful bullets at the Dutch Farmers too.
NEVER GIVE UP YOUR GUNS!!
Posted by: Archer at July 06, 2022 11:04 AM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 06, 2022 11:05 AM (Rcp6g)
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at July 06, 2022 11:05 AM (AiZBA)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 06, 2022 11:05 AM (UuD2k)
Seriously, you guys.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2022 11:05 AM (ZGrMX)
- some famous dude
*cough*
Of course. Credit a man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_gWWZxNYto
Posted by: The Judds at July 06, 2022 11:05 AM (/NCI4)
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at July 06, 2022 11:05 AM (AiZBA)
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Ditto!
Posted by: 496 at July 06, 2022 11:06 AM (VJsqe)
Seriously, you guys.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2022 11:05 AM (ZGrMX)
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Brilliant. She's a real wordsmith.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 06, 2022 11:06 AM (WWh8n)
Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2022 11:07 AM (/NCI4)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 06, 2022 11:03 AM (WWh8n)
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Colin Treverrow has already reached out and told me that it's the greatest metaphor for Hollywood accounting he's ever heard, and it's going to be the centerpiece of the next one.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 06, 2022 11:07 AM (kxFWR)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 06, 2022 11:08 AM (FVME7)
Posted by: Napoleon XIV at July 06, 2022 11:05 AM (AiZBA)
Agreed.
Posted by: Archer at July 06, 2022 11:08 AM (gmo/4)
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Thank God! I was beginning to get worried!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 06, 2022 11:08 AM (FVME7)
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They messaged?
Well, there go the midterms.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 06, 2022 11:08 AM (kxFWR)
Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2022 11:07 AM (/NCI4)
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That does appear to be their assumption. And they'll be right about that assumption right up until the moment they're not. The rub is that it's impossible to predict when that moment occurs or what will trigger it.
Dictatorship is nervous business.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 06, 2022 11:08 AM (WWh8n)
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Thank God! I was beginning to get worried!
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Stay Calm. All is well.
Posted by: Puddinhead at July 06, 2022 11:08 AM (xSnmX)
Posted by: t_bodie - Lurker. Unless you are reading this. at July 06, 2022 11:09 AM (WcGJT)
People need to pay. With their lives.
I didn't agree to this.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2022 11:09 AM (Tj+Ak)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 06, 2022 11:09 AM (MkYsY)
Posted by: BlackOrchidOfDerp at July 06, 2022 11:09 AM (w0NJk)
Posted by: Zombie Qaddafi at July 06, 2022 11:10 AM (/NCI4)
Posted by: She Hobbit at July 06, 2022 11:10 AM (FnO1e)
Posted by: Skip's phone at July 06, 2022 11:10 AM (HSMP5)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 06, 2022
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I think Napoleon Solo said or quoted that. Or maybe it was James Bond.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 06, 2022 11:10 AM (txdEq)
Posted by: BlackOrchidOfDerp at July 06, 2022 11:09 AM (w0NJk)
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I didn't know that one. I like it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 06, 2022 11:10 AM (WWh8n)
Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 06, 2022 11:10 AM (vuisn)
As much as I love my parents and siblings, too much has happened over the decades to make it possible in being a normal, loving family that can move on.
Separation, with occasional phone calls a few times a year, is what we've settled upon.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 06, 2022 11:10 AM (Zbekl)
Seriously, you guys.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2022 11:05 AM (ZGrMX)
This is serious stuff, seriously.
Posted by: Archer at July 06, 2022 11:10 AM (gmo/4)
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In case anyone doubts these words of wisdom...
https://tinyurl.com/5yn4rpr3
Posted by: 496 at July 06, 2022 11:10 AM (VJsqe)
Status quo ante is a failure because it ignores what transpired to cause the conflict in the first place.
Posted by: Inogame at July 06, 2022 11:11 AM (53oGX)
Posted by: BlackOrchidOfDerp at July 06, 2022
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"The past is a foreign country: They do things differently there."
(I forget who said it first, though)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 06, 2022 11:11 AM (txdEq)
Posted by: Match Checksout at July 06, 2022 11:11 AM (IK4m/)
Fine, fine. I'll stop trying to build a time machine so I can bang young Ann Margaret.
Killjoy.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 06, 2022 11:11 AM (5NkmN)
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at July 06, 2022 11:11 AM (rzOL9)
Posted by: Skip's phone at July 06, 2022 11:10 AM (HSMP5)
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Right. I am not being a defeatist when I say that I think the Republic as we knew it is over and done for. Something will come next, and it could be bad or better or neutral, but it won't be the same thing that was.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 06, 2022 11:11 AM (WWh8n)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 06, 2022 11:12 AM (FVME7)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 06, 2022 11:12 AM (YIVH2)
-- NeverTrump Neocon Sissy-Boyz
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 06, 2022 11:12 AM (iFTx/)
Kamala Harris, making rocks look like Mensa members!
Posted by: t_bodie - Lurker. Unless you are reading this. at July 06, 2022 11:12 AM (WcGJT)
Honestly, knowing what I do now about what the status quo ante actually was, I wouldn't WANT to go back, because that world was garbage with a shiny veneer.
Posted by: Brother Tim, actually a random opossum with a VPN at July 06, 2022 11:12 AM (OUMaO)
That any sentence with the word "Uranus" in it is funny?
Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2022 11:12 AM (/NCI4)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 06, 2022 11:11 AM (WWh8n)
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Don't you have a theory about how we're in the American Empire, that the second form of the American Republic died during WWII (the first having died at the Civil War)?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 06, 2022 11:13 AM (kxFWR)
Seriously, you guys.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2022 11:05 AM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 06, 2022 11:13 AM (MkYsY)
Posted by: Puddinhead at July 06, 2022 11:13 AM (xSnmX)
Posted by: Lyndon Johnson Channeling Heraclitus at July 06, 2022 11:13 AM (sWM8x)
Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2022 11:12 AM (/NCI4)
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#notadelusion
Posted by: 496 at July 06, 2022 11:13 AM (VJsqe)
To know that is Wisdom.
To use it is the Art. "
-- Clive Barker
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 06, 2022 11:13 AM (YIVH2)
Posted by: Miss Issippi - TRANSparent-Pronouns Who/Where at July 06, 2022 11:14 AM (sI15f)
I can already hear the Pitch Meeting in my head.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2022 11:14 AM (ZGrMX)
Killjoy.
Posted by: naturalfake at July 06, 2022 11:11 AM (5NkmN)
Nooooo!
Posted by: t_bodie - Lurker. Unless you are reading this. at July 06, 2022 11:14 AM (WcGJT)
Posted by: Archer at July 06, 2022 11:14 AM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Just Lily at July 06, 2022 11:15 AM (RLLZj)
Even if I didn't want retribution, I still believe that there needs to be a clean sweep of the leftist leadership.
They have shown they won't stop until someone stops them.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 06, 2022 11:15 AM (T/s40)
Shhhhhh, everyone. I think they're on to us.
Posted by: Subterranean lizard people at July 06, 2022 11:15 AM (/NCI4)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at July 06, 2022 11:15 AM (jRQbu)
Posted by: Muad'dib at July 06, 2022 11:15 AM (sjdRT)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 06, 2022 11:11 AM (WWh8n)
History tells us representative governments once they fail are not replaced by representative governments.
Posted by: Inogame at July 06, 2022 11:15 AM (53oGX)
But you are sadly right - we cannot go back to any 'good old days'.
If we are lucky and work hard, we may occasionally see some 'good new days' - but there are ugly forces that don't want that to happen...
Posted by: Parker at July 06, 2022 11:15 AM (hJWil)
Shhhhhh, everyone. I think they're on to us.
Posted by: Subterranean lizard people at July 06, 2022 11:15 AM (/NCI4)
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"Let the lizard people have their delusions."
-The Crab People
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 06, 2022 11:15 AM (kxFWR)
Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2022 11:16 AM (ZGrMX)
true, it's happening right before our eyes
are we going to allow it to be replaced by what the Ruling Class wants or with something more sane than what they are currently offering?
I hope that people are seeing what is at stake and how awful the future they want for us is
Posted by: unvaxxed-trucker-traitor and noted Putin shill at July 06, 2022 11:16 AM (fcWVN)
That any sentence with the word "Uranus" in it is funny?
Posted by: Archimedes
Fudge Factory in Uranus, Mo.
Their marketing people are geniuses.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2022 11:16 AM (Tj+Ak)
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at July 06, 2022 11:16 AM (QZ/dC)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, wearing Groucho glasses at July 06, 2022 11:16 AM (PiwSw)
Posted by: JT at July 06, 2022 11:17 AM (T4tVD)
Posted by: DaveA at July 06, 2022 11:17 AM (FhXTo)
This argument hinges on semantics. I assert that when representative governments fail, new elections are held. (yeah, yeah, voting is pointless)
Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2022 11:17 AM (/NCI4)
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Duh.
- The Bible
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 06, 2022 11:17 AM (Zbekl)
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Unfortunately, we probably will have to suffer (and possibly die) through the Ruling Class's delusional fantasies. They don't work and cannot work. But they will not let a little reality stop them from trying anyway.
In the end, it'll all come crashing down on them as it always does. How many of us will survive to see it? I don't know...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 06, 2022 11:18 AM (YIVH2)
-The Crab People
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 06, 2022 11:15 AM (kxFWR)
Then we will strike and absorb them.
- The Amoeba People
Posted by: Archer at July 06, 2022 11:18 AM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 06, 2022 11:18 AM (BFigT)
Oh, and, “Cargoes of SPR crude were also headed to the Netherlands and to a Reliance refinery in India, an industry source said. A third cargo headed to China, another source said.”
.. Dementia Joe is sending oil fro PSR to China
Posted by: SMOD at July 06, 2022 11:18 AM (RHGPo)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 06, 2022 11:13 AM (kxFWR)
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It isn't my theory, but I generally subscribe to the idea that we're on the third or fourth republic in the Constitutional era. The country as it was after the Civil War was fundamentally different than it was before, and the country as it was after the Depression and WWII was fundamentally different than it was before that.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 06, 2022 11:18 AM (WWh8n)
The future can most defiinitely include a revitalization of now-degraded American political institutions. It isn't at all predetermined that what has been lost to progressivism is now forever gone.
"Renewal", or or restoration of status quo ante, happens all the time at a local level, when good citizens get involved in some local institution to make it effective again, and the same sort of thing can happen at a national level too! We may have to excise corruption pretty brutally before the body politic can heal, but it can most definitely be done. SCOTUS helped last week and plenty more needs to be done,
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at July 06, 2022 11:18 AM (/jMk1)
Posted by: Used Dutch Tractors at July 06, 2022 11:18 AM (sWM8x)
This argument hinges on semantics. I assert that when representative governments fail, new elections are held. (yeah, yeah, voting is pointless)
Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2022 11:17 AM (/NCI4)
Fail in context means revolt, not fail in the terms of things not going swimmingly. You point is correct based on my poor wording.
Posted by: Inogame at July 06, 2022 11:18 AM (53oGX)
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, wearing Groucho glasses at July 06, 2022 11:16 AM (PiwSw)
Did she play a stripper? I think I might've heard that somewhere.
Posted by: Jordan61 at July 06, 2022 11:18 AM (DRSnL)
Their marketing people are geniuses.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2022 11:16 AM (Tj+Ak)
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Just down the road from me...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 06, 2022 11:19 AM (YIVH2)
Posted by: Mookie at July 06, 2022 11:19 AM (7Mqc1)
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God willing, I, and those I care about, will be in Heaven.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 06, 2022 11:19 AM (Zbekl)
Unfair!
*kicks dirt*
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at July 06, 2022 11:19 AM (V6f9+)
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 06, 2022 11:19 AM (Zbekl)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 06, 2022 11:19 AM (Rcp6g)
but instead we did a combo college visit/vacation in Virginia Beach. it was fantastic and as usual we just loved everyone we met - especially the NJ and PA visitors like us, we all were on the same wavelength!
America is still alive. It's so much there. Just .. sadly, considering our history .. not so much here in Philadelphia anymore. something is being born in Philly tho... that rough beast
best to avoid
AND ... best to avoid despair! we were blessed with 6 days of joy and fellowship among people we'd never met before but everyone was so happy and great. would not have been like that in Rehoboth with the snobby, stressed-out people "like us."
Posted by: BlackOrchidOfDerp at July 06, 2022 11:19 AM (w0NJk)
Posted by: Archer
Nothin', don't mean nothin' hon' if it ain't free
Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2022 11:20 AM (Tj+Ak)
Big tit Donna is easy on the eyes, but her face is messed up. (Jennifer Gareis).
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 06, 2022 11:20 AM (ufFY8)
We can, if we shut down Twitter first.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2022 11:20 AM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 06, 2022 11:18 AM (YIVH2)
I had the same thought.
Posted by: Jordan61 at July 06, 2022 11:20 AM (DRSnL)
Wait! How the hell did this happen!
Posted by: The People People at July 06, 2022 11:20 AM (5NkmN)
Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2022 11:07 AM (/NCI4)
And so far, there has been no reason for them to believe otherwise.
As someone above posted, people need to pay with their lives for what they have done.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 06, 2022 11:20 AM (2JVJo)
The junta overlords don't give a fuck about anybody, including their base. The base is just cannon fodder. They want a whole lot less people. We get rid off the commies on the ground, TPTB gets rid of us. Or something.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 06, 2022 11:20 AM (89T5c)
We can, if we shut down Twitter first.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2022 11:20 AM (ZGrMX)
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Can we push all the leftists inside first? Like TRON?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 06, 2022 11:21 AM (kxFWR)
See also: the current administration
Posted by: Parker at July 06, 2022 11:21 AM (hJWil)
The roots probably go back to the civil war. While that was a righteous war for a righteous cause, it also was the beginnings of the federal government and those who control it to dominate the states and stamp out all opposition to its agenda and politics. In the civil war, that federal super-power was used for good. It has inevitably since been used for evil.
I 100% agree that there is no way back. We cannot vote our way out of this.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 06, 2022 11:21 AM (iFTx/)
Posted by: Archer
I think the nation is closer to Devo (Freedom of Choice) than Kristofferson....
Posted by: Mookie at July 06, 2022 11:21 AM (7Mqc1)
Posted by: The Sloth People at July 06, 2022 11:21 AM (PiwSw)
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The professors who had to grade this idiot's law school exams must have had a lot of laughs.
Fortunately for Kamaltoe, being a sorta black female, there was no way anybody was going to fail her, no matter how nonsensical her ramblings.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at July 06, 2022 11:22 AM (MvHI3)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 06, 2022 11:22 AM (UuD2k)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
1st died after Marbury v Madison. 2nd at CW I and 3rd at WWII.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2022 11:22 AM (Tj+Ak)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at July 06, 2022 11:22 AM (jRQbu)
Posted by: Jordan61 at July 06, 2022 11:22 AM (DRSnL)
Posted by: Beverly at July 06, 2022 11:23 AM (5gv4f)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 06, 2022 11:23 AM (4NlP1)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
Fixed for accuracy.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2022 11:23 AM (Tj+Ak)
Well, that entire sentence is a contradiction and frankly, sophism.
The Republic will survive. The question is what state will it take? Any person taking even a measured pedestrian view understands there is a lot more road to travel before we get to the end. Some might even argue we have not even begun to fight back yet. What we need are people with courage. But nowadays they are in short supply.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 06, 2022 11:23 AM (VF4WI)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 06, 2022 11:22 AM (UuD2k)
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Plugging the supply gap left by taking a battering ram to the oil industry here and abroad to try to keep Europe powered. It's a vain hope and the SPR will be depleted fairly quickly at this rate.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 06, 2022 11:24 AM (WWh8n)
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 06, 2022 11:24 AM (4I/2K)
Their marketing people are geniuses.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2022 11:16 AM (Tj+Ak)
You'll be hearing from our lawyers shortly...
***Brown 25, what can't it do***
Posted by: The Uranus Corp at July 06, 2022 11:24 AM (BgMrQ)
oh yes - I am also noticing this. a few refreshes sometimes helps.
Posted by: BlackOrchidOfDerp at July 06, 2022 11:25 AM (w0NJk)
You aren't conserving anything. You have to fight, you have to get radical, you have to embrace liberty at its most basic level... and that ain't government.
Feel free to defeat the left in this year's election, but after that, it's time to kill the Republican Party.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 06, 2022 11:25 AM (YV6PJ)
Oh, and, “Cargoes of SPR crude were also headed to the Netherlands and to a Reliance refinery in India, an industry source said. A third cargo headed to China, another source said.”
.. Dementia Joe is sending oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve to China
Posted by: SMOD at July 06, 2022 11:25 AM (RHGPo)
Posted by: Filesystem /gp Corrupted at July 06, 2022 11:25 AM (qpX6U)
I would add both faith and a plan to this. Something that says, our destination is "X" and here's how we get there, understanding it's never a straight line but having the faith that our cause is just and we will succeed.
Posted by: Mookie at July 06, 2022 11:26 AM (7Mqc1)
I waited forever for that episode to play on the Twilight Zone marathon last weekend, it finally did
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at July 06, 2022 11:26 AM (Rcp6g)
Posted by: Marcus T at July 06, 2022 11:23 AM (VF4WI)
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Sure. Assuming it isn't end of the republic in concept (a full clean break caused by (probably) a revolution) - and I think that it's likely that isn't - whatever state it takes, it will not be like the state it was in. It will be another chapter and a new republic that is fairly unlike the one that preceded it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 06, 2022 11:26 AM (WWh8n)
The Lefts Fk the Fourth happened better than they might have dreamed
Posted by: Skip's phone at July 06, 2022 11:26 AM (HSMP5)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 06, 2022 11:24 AM (WWh8n)
Leaving us vulnerable in a war time situation. The main purpose of the SPR was to keep the military functioning. Using it because of Biden's low polls is impeachable.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 06, 2022 11:26 AM (UuD2k)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 06, 2022 11:23 AM (4NlP1)
Hah! A list of bugs would take over the entire sidebar.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2022 11:26 AM (XIJ/X)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
1st died after Marbury v Madison. 2nd at CW I and 3rd at WWII.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2022 11:22 AM (Tj+Ak)
This seems to miss the dramatic transformation from agrarian to urban and industrial that occurred in the latter parts of the 19th and early parts of the 20th century. The people and their lives were not transformed, and in consequence the function of the central government, by a few changes in structure. Urbanization begat centralization.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 06, 2022 11:27 AM (b2nrj)
Posted by: Jordan61 at July 06, 2022 11:27 AM (DRSnL)
We now have a Supreme Court that seems focused on returning us to normal Constitutional order. Who saw that coming 5 years ago? The court is devolving power away from the feds and giving it back to the people.
The left has been building toward this moment for decades and they entrusted their plan to most corrupt, dumbest and least competent administration in the history of the country. They aren't nearly as smart or powerful as they like to think they are.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 06, 2022 11:27 AM (ZLI7S)
It's ironic that you say that in this post. A more likely and desirable outcome is that the RP changes to reflect it's current membership. It can't go back to where it was.
Where is the energy? With the GOPe? I think not. When Trump and DeSantis between them garner something like 90% of the votes, it's not the GOP of old.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2022 11:27 AM (/NCI4)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 06, 2022 11:26 AM (UuD2k)
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Not just him. "Tapping the strategic reserve" for political reasons has been going for a long time. Biden's administration is just doing it with gusto.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 06, 2022 11:27 AM (WWh8n)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2022 11:26 AM (XIJ/X)
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I just want the popups when you click into the comments from the homepage to stop. It used to not be like that.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 06, 2022 11:28 AM (kxFWR)
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at July 06, 2022 11:27 AM (b2nrj)
Which is weird, because the Fed Govt runs agriculture just like a socialist central planner.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 06, 2022 11:28 AM (UuD2k)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 06, 2022 11:27 AM (ZLI7S)
++++
The Court session that just ended has been very good indeed, and the first ray of hope in a while.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 06, 2022 11:29 AM (WWh8n)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 06, 2022 11:26 AM (WWh8n)
I think the issue is that there are far fewer structural similarities now than when the country shifted after the CW and WWII.
The shared history, the love of country, the ideal of American Exceptionalism...all are frayed or simply gone.
That does not bode well for a mostly peaceful transition.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2022 11:29 AM (XIJ/X)
The Lefts Fk the Fourth happened better than they might have dreamed
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Not in my town in downstate IL.
Feel for the people that live near Chicago.
St. Louis is bad, but nothing like Chicago.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 06, 2022 11:29 AM (Zbekl)
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at July 06, 2022 11:29 AM (QZ/dC)
There's not even acknowledgement that the front page has been taken over by aggressive ad scripts. If Ace needs more in the tip jar to make that go away, I imagine a lot of us would be happy to do so.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2022 11:30 AM (ZGrMX)
Now!
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 06, 2022 11:30 AM (3vQN0)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 06, 2022 11:29 AM (WWh8n)
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And they get to do it again in a few months. This time with some fire dissents from KJB.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 06, 2022 11:30 AM (kxFWR)
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 06, 2022 11:30 AM (Zbekl)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 06, 2022 11:28 AM (kxFWR)
Ask Pixy.
#twoweeks
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2022 11:30 AM (XIJ/X)
Hmm, wait a minute, now you've got me thinking. Maybe Pixy already added the bug list, and that's what's causing the endless page loading and memory leaks?! Whoa, indeed.
*reenacts mind blown GIF meme*
Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 06, 2022 11:30 AM (4NlP1)
Kamala Harris, making rocks look like Mensa members!
Posted by: t_bodie - Lurker. Unless you are reading this. at July 06, 2022 11:12 AM (WcGJT)
She is rather igneous.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 06, 2022 11:30 AM (anj39)
All your seasick sailors, they are rowing home
All your empty-handed armies are all going home.
Your lover who has just walked out your door
has taken all his blankets from the floor.
Posted by: It’s All Over Now Baby Blue at July 06, 2022 11:31 AM (U+Oxn)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 06, 2022 11:31 AM (MkYsY)
There's not even acknowledgement that the front page has been taken over by aggressive ad scripts. If Ace needs more in the tip jar to make that go away, I imagine a lot of us would be happy to do so.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2022 11:30 AM (ZGrMX)
But I like answering poll questions like Do You Think Kamala Is Good or Bad VP. Don’t you?
Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 06, 2022 11:31 AM (3vQN0)
Ask Pixy.
#twoweeks
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 06, 2022 11:30 AM (XIJ/X)
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So, you're telling me there's a chance...
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 06, 2022 11:31 AM (kxFWR)
Fuck off.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 06, 2022 11:31 AM (ufFY8)
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 06, 2022 11:32 AM (iFTx/)
Can you grow corn and wheat on Lexington Avenue?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at July 06, 2022 11:32 AM (lf83v)
Max Boot is dumber than the kids I dropped off at the pool this morning.
Smart people aren't our problem. Dumb people are dangerous.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 06, 2022 11:32 AM (ZLI7S)
I know a lot of people aren't into astrology, but I watch an English woman's reports/forecasts on UTOOB and she has been talking about this. She says all this has to happen (and the planets show this) in order to create "new earth" which is coming.
If anyone is interested in checking her out, her name is Pam Gregory. Older women and not a smelly hippy in the least.
Posted by: Bonnie Blue - the ungrateful colonial at July 06, 2022 11:32 AM (gao0c)
Posted by: pookysgirl, groggy froggy at July 06, 2022 11:32 AM (XKZwp)
The left has been building toward this moment for decades and they entrusted their plan to most corrupt, dumbest and least competent administration in the history of the country. They aren't nearly as smart or powerful as they like to think they are.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 06, 2022 11:27 AM
And the only reason that is happening is because Trump. We finally got enough actual conservatives on the court to get rid of some of the drift to the left. and it's all because Trump beat hillary.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at July 06, 2022 11:33 AM (bVYXr)
I don't begrudge Ace trying to make money, hell I hit the tip jar when I can, but the function of the site is borderline now.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at July 06, 2022 11:33 AM (V6f9+)
Now!
Posted by: Joe XiDen
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It's happening.
United States? Hardly.
For a lot of us, sadly, the thought of traveling to the coasts and the big cities is more insane than traveling to Iraq.
Rural vs urban is where the split is beginning.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 06, 2022 11:33 AM (Zbekl)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 06, 2022 11:31 AM (MkYsY)
Wow. That's some high level political analysis there. Boot's a real deep thinker.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 06, 2022 11:33 AM (UuD2k)
I've always had difficulty with the names of the early American political parties. Jefferson was a Republican who favored small farmers and a very limited Federal government. Hamilton was a Federalist, and favored a strong central government.
Rightly or wrongly, to me Federal implies a collection of states, not a monolithic central government.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2022 11:33 AM (/NCI4)
Posted by: TheMitch at July 06, 2022 11:34 AM (cDITE)
I mean, I like to frame it as "it's all because Ruth was a narcissist and radfem and wanted to wait for President Shrillary"
Posted by: BlackOrchidOfDerp at July 06, 2022 11:34 AM (w0NJk)
As this is true, it isn't all bad. It is what it is.
Agility of thought as well as action is vital. It is going to be different, so lets decide what we want and shape it as best we can.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 06, 2022 11:34 AM (anj39)
Posted by: Skye Screemer at July 06, 2022 11:34 AM (lf83v)
I've been using an adblocker for years, and tried turning it off yesterday when the bug hit, double checking to see if it was the culprit, but no. The popups made me kinda sad though. I figured all reputable sites had given up on those by now.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 06, 2022 11:34 AM (4NlP1)
They’re not “aggressive”. They’re malicious. I find it hard to believe that whatever ad company he’s using brings in as much money as a simple blogathon would bring in. Especially since for many of us, the only way to view the site is to turn them off.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 06, 2022 11:34 AM (U+Oxn)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 06, 2022 11:27 AM (ZLI7S)
++++
The Court session that just ended has been very good indeed, and the first ray of hope in a while.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 06, 2022 11:29 AM (WWh8n)
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In theory, yes. But watch the blue states and blue institutions (which are all of the institutions) just pretend those decisions don't exist. NY has already pretty much announced they aren't going to follow Bruen.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 06, 2022 11:35 AM (iFTx/)
I suspect you are correct, it's gonna suck ass to be our grandchildren, I feel really bad for them, they will never know what it was like growing up in post WWII America, how awesome it was.
Posted by: unvaxxed-trucker-traitor and noted Putin shill at July 06, 2022 11:35 AM (fcWVN)
Posted by: BlackOrchidOfDerp at July 06, 2022 11:34 AM (w0NJk)
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It just means that progressives cannot trust any of their heroes on the court, and they should just give up trying. They should just binge watch Netflix until they starve to death. It's the only way out.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 06, 2022 11:35 AM (kxFWR)
Yeah, it was bad and it just got worse this week. Almost like someone's deploying additional fuckery so we can't read the site going into the midterms.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2022 11:35 AM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: BlackOrchidOfDerp at July 06, 2022 11:34 AM (w0NJk)
Indeed. Pride goeth before the fall.
Suck it, you bitch RBG.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 06, 2022 11:36 AM (ufFY8)
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 06, 2022 11:36 AM (lKAqb)
yes, this appears to be their plan, based on my FB feed
heh
Posted by: BlackOrchidOfDerp at July 06, 2022 11:36 AM (w0NJk)
Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at July 06, 2022 11:36 AM (gSOJh)
Here in Maryland our RINO governor ordered the state police to go to shall issue, so some people see which way the wind is blowing.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2022 11:37 AM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: Archer
I think the nation is closer to Devo (Freedom of Choice) than Kristofferson....
Posted by: Mookie
We are spirits in a material world.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 06, 2022 11:37 AM (FVME7)
There was a nice summary of just how ineffective Republicans have been on abortion over on American Thinker a few days ago.
Question: Before Donald Trump, who was the last Republican president who didn't appoint at least one pro-choice Supreme Court justice?
Answer: Herbert Hoover.
hoboes.com/pcr
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 06, 2022 11:37 AM (U+Oxn)
The vacuum will be filled with the most prepared (good) and the most eager (bad).
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 06, 2022 11:38 AM (44ww/)
We can, if we shut down Twitter first.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2022 11:20 AM (ZGrMX)
This is acceptable
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at July 06, 2022 11:38 AM (V6f9+)
Posted by: Just Lily at July 06, 2022 11:38 AM (RLLZj)
Posted by: FriscoYoda at July 06, 2022 11:38 AM (4Dzfe)
Indeed. I'm pretty sure that's what's causing the new bug on the main page too. Probably related to Apple's default privacy protections in Safari. There must have been a change somewhere in the ad generation system.
@138: "If Ace needs more in the tip jar to make that go away ..."
But then how would Ace launder all of the dirty cash he's stolen from passed out hobos?
Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 06, 2022 11:38 AM (4NlP1)
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Scripture itself does say there will be a new Heaven and a new Earth, but there will be a lot of bad stuff that has to happen before we get to that point.
As far as this nation goes, only God knows its ultimate fate.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 06, 2022 11:38 AM (Zbekl)
heh
Posted by: BlackOrchidOfDerp at July 06, 2022 11:36 AM (w0NJk)
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"Democrats are in charge. Why does it feel like Republicans run everything?"
"Because there is no difference in the parties and your vote for progressivism is a sham. The only way to win is to not to play. Give no more money, time, or votes to a party that sells out gays, trannies, and Muslims the first second the GOP steals a SCOTUS seat."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 06, 2022 11:39 AM (kxFWR)
Eros in Plan 9 had a point. Our 'leaders' had/have stupid stupid minds.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 06, 2022 11:39 AM (4I/2K)
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Franklin liked pussy.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 06, 2022 11:39 AM (FVME7)
Yes, Brave (both on Android and on iOS and macOS as far as I know) shuts down most if not all of what’s causing the problem.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 06, 2022 11:40 AM (U+Oxn)
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 06, 2022 11:21 AM (iFTx/)
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I hear this often and maybe it will be so, but it is by no means a truism.
Our problem is the federal administrative state and SCOTUS launched an attack that struck home (in West Va. vs. EPA) and another is potentially on the horizen in Moore vs. Harper.
But we need to vote for a MAGA next Congress. And end the uniparty control of the Senate.
Vote harder, in other words. And put Philip Hamburger on the Supreme Court!
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at July 06, 2022 11:41 AM (1GZZ1)
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Well said. The post war era was a unique one. Those who "grew up" between 45-05, grew up in a very unique time in which American reigned supreme and by and large, Americans got a long - for the most part. We can quibble with dates, and when things started to unravel, but I think the country as a whole started to notice it around around 05-10. And it has accelerated since.
Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned) at July 06, 2022 11:41 AM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 06, 2022 11:41 AM (4NlP1)
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 06, 2022 11:36 AM (lKAqb)
You reach, brother!
Posted by: Space Hippies at July 06, 2022 11:41 AM (4I/2K)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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We're souls in a physical body.
God made us to be both, to have a soul and a body.
The body we have now, due to sin, is perishable.
The body we attain as followers of Christ, will be imperishable.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 06, 2022 11:41 AM (Zbekl)
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 06, 2022 11:36 AM (lKAqb)
You reach, brother!
Posted by: Space Hippies at July 06, 2022 11:41 AM (4I/2K)
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I'm just east of it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 06, 2022 11:41 AM (kxFWR)
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BTO > BCO
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 06, 2022 11:42 AM (FVME7)
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Not really. I think we're like elephants which, when young were tethered to stakes they couldn't (then) pull out of the ground, and then assume that, as adults, they cannot. The elites' power just isn't all that; much of it simply comes from failure to realize there ARE alternatives. If it comes to that, starving them will work.
Otherwise I agree, and long have. But I'm not optimistic about what new will come.
Posted by: Eeyore at July 06, 2022 11:42 AM (TgBWG)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 06, 2022 11:42 AM (MkYsY)
So that can be considered in the stats.
Posted by: From about that time at July 06, 2022 11:42 AM (4780s)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 06, 2022 11:43 AM (MkYsY)
So does Chrome. It's clearly a Safari specific issue.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 06, 2022 11:43 AM (4NlP1)
Is there an amount per month that would make the ads I do see go away? I probably can't afford the total amount, but I can chip in.
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at July 06, 2022 11:43 AM (8548M)
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Franklin liked pussy.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 06, 2022 11:39 AM (FVME7)
Quoted for truth! LOL
Jefferson is my favorite founding farmer.
While Franklin was interesting to read about, and very intelligent and self-taught with many talents, he apparently was very dysfunctional in the relationship department and maybe even some sort of pervert, lol.
John Adams was a sour puss.
Posted by: Bonnie Blue - the ungrateful colonial at July 06, 2022 11:43 AM (gao0c)
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 06, 2022 11:43 AM (lKAqb)
Snorting blow off hooker's asses.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2022 11:44 AM (Tj+Ak)
And others you cannot
Time has come to weigh those things
This space is getting hot
You know this space is getting hot
Posted by: JackStraw at July 06, 2022 11:44 AM (ZLI7S)
Beaver. I'm pretty sure he called it beaver.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 06, 2022 11:41 AM (4NlP1)
Franklin liked turkey but not jive turkey
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at July 06, 2022 11:44 AM (V6f9+)
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 06, 2022 11:43 AM (lKAqb)
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It's better in the original Klingon.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 06, 2022 11:44 AM (kxFWR)
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Tend to agree. If we can vote our way out of it, it will come with some pain, but pain is coming regardless. I am hopeful there will be an American renaissance.
Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned) at July 06, 2022 11:44 AM (sX1BW)
So does Chrome. It's clearly a Safari specific issue.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 06, 2022 11:43 AM (4NlP1)
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I must be in the minority because the site loads up fine (ads and all) on Safari on my iPhone 12.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 06, 2022 11:44 AM (YIVH2)
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 06, 2022 11:44 AM (lKAqb)
That's literally a quote from a UN article all about how world hunger is a good thing.
https://tinyurl.com/3mv7dd99
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 06, 2022 11:45 AM (llsW/)
Here in Maryland our RINO governor ordered the state police to go to shall issue, so some people see which way the wind is blowing.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2022 11:37 AM (ZGrMX)
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Again, in theory. But the decision to issue permits remains in an incompetent and corrupt left-wing bureaucracy that hates its "customers" seeking permits. I would like to see statistics on how many permits are issued in 2023 and how long those permits took to get, as compared to 2021. I would be surprised if the differences are material.
Posted by: Elric Blade at July 06, 2022 11:45 AM (iFTx/)
Posted by: garrett at July 06, 2022 11:45 AM (9GWTF)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 06, 2022 11:27 AM (ZLI7S)
++++
The Court session that just ended has been very good indeed, and the first ray of hope in a while.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 06, 2022 11:29 AM (WWh8n)
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I once had a political science prof describe the US as a large ship sailing along. It slowly drifts to the right and then comes back to the left then again back to the right. But it keeps going.
I've thought of this over the last 20 years and wondered if perhaps the wheel wasn't jammed hard over to the left? I hope for more return to the right...but I prepare for events if not.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 06, 2022 11:45 AM (anj39)
Beaver. I'm pretty sure he called it beaver.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 06, 2022 11:41 AM (4NlP1)
speaking of pussy and beaver
Barbara Parkins was on Leave it to Beaver in the late 50's
before she was hot and sultry
Posted by: REDACTED at July 06, 2022 11:46 AM (us2H3)
Posted by: SMOD at July 06, 2022 11:46 AM (RHGPo)
Used to be that if you asked a NTer exactly which Trump policies he was opposed to, he'd say "Oh no, I agree with the policies, it's just Trump's personal style that is unacceptable." This makes it clear that that was BS all along. Which anyone reading AoS always knew of course.
Posted by: Oddbob at July 06, 2022 11:46 AM (nfrXX)
I've thought of this over the last 20 years and wondered if perhaps the wheel wasn't jammed hard over to the left? I hope for more return to the right...but I prepare for events if not.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 06, 2022 11:45 AM (anj39)
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That sounds about right. Of course, if you jam the wheel to the Left long enough, you'll end up going in circles...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 06, 2022 11:46 AM (YIVH2)
Apparently, NY didn't get the memo.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 06, 2022 11:46 AM (lKAqb)
Well, until it hit the Biden iceberg.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2022 11:46 AM (/NCI4)
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 06, 2022 11:40 AM (U+Oxn)
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My iPhone using Brave was having problems until someone above mentioned turning on the "Block Scripts" in settings. That seems to have fixed it for me.
Posted by: Turn two at July 06, 2022 11:46 AM (NPycx)
"All these gigantic problems keep piling up and it just keeps getting us further and further away from repealing child labor laws like I want to do. Not even kidding about this btw."
He's framing it in terms of "what if your kid wants to work a little for some cash" but he also frames in terms of "poor folks need more money, we should put these kids to work".
Literally these people are feudalists.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 06, 2022 11:46 AM (llsW/)
I've thought of this over the last 20 years and wondered if perhaps the wheel wasn't jammed hard over to the left? I hope for more return to the right...but I prepare for events if not.
Posted by: Diogenes
The US is like the Bismark. We've had a torpedo jammed up our asses and the rudder is stuck, sending us in a leftward turn.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2022 11:47 AM (Tj+Ak)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 06, 2022 11:46 AM (YIVH2)
And them that what go in large circles shall be known as the Big Wheels.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 06, 2022 11:47 AM (anj39)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 06, 2022 11:47 AM (MkYsY)
I have very little trouble on Safari on my iMac, but then I have content blockers turned on for this site. I’m guessing that’s related.
I have no trouble using Safari on my iPad/iPhone, but that’s because I installed a full content blocker there (Autarky) specifically for the AOSHQ.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 06, 2022 11:48 AM (U+Oxn)
Knowing what I know now I would say:
"Uh. No sir. There's a peg at the bottom that prevents it from ever going right of center. It just bounces off to the left again."
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 06, 2022 11:48 AM (lKAqb)
This particular problem seems to have started yesterday morning, so at least we have that data point to try narrowing down the possibilities.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 06, 2022 11:48 AM (4NlP1)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 06, 2022 11:23 AM (4NlP1)
Not a problem if you use a real computer to read the HQ.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2022 11:48 AM (C4SE9)
Posted by: Braenyard at July 06, 2022 11:48 AM (tW3KO)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 06, 2022 11:46 AM (YIVH2)
Ja. Not gud.
Posted by: Captain Ernst Lindemann at July 06, 2022 11:49 AM (4I/2K)
Apparently, NY didn't get the memo.
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The Court can only do so much, NY'ers will have to do some heavy lifting themselves.
The Court still has work to do, but we should be pleased with this term. Hopefully, next term will be as successful.
Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned) at July 06, 2022 11:49 AM (sX1BW)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 06, 2022 11:49 AM (44ww/)
While Franklin was interesting to read about, and very intelligent and self-taught with many talents, he apparently was very dysfunctional in the relationship department and maybe even some sort of pervert, lol.
John Adams was a sour puss.
I've always had a soft spot for James Otis.
Sam Adams, IMO, was a rabble-rouser who didn't give a shit what lies he told or who got hurt as long as he got his way.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 06, 2022 11:49 AM (2JVJo)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 06, 2022 11:46 AM (YIVH2)
In most shipping encounters it is illegal to turn to port under international law.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at July 06, 2022 11:50 AM (UuD2k)
Did you expect that they'd just cede the field and give up. The rearguard action will be long and bitter, but in the end, fruitless.
Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2022 11:50 AM (/NCI4)
Literally these people are feudalists.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 06, 2022 11:46 AM (llsW/)
Might do these kids some good to get off their spoiled asses and toil a bit.
Posted by: Bonnie Blue - the ungrateful colonial at July 06, 2022 11:50 AM (gao0c)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2022 11:47 AM (Tj+Ak)
Ja, exactly.
Posted by: Captain Ernst Lindemann at July 06, 2022 11:50 AM (4I/2K)
If we start to drift, we are forced to drag the anchor and thus do it slowly.
The Left would turn the court into a driftsock that would only take us away from our founding.
Posted by: garrett at July 06, 2022 11:50 AM (9GWTF)
More like jammed hard towards the floor 'cause some people are convinced the cruise ship needs to become a submarine.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 06, 2022 11:50 AM (4NlP1)
https://bit.ly/3NN4yFK
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 06, 2022 10:36 AM (FVME7)
what is it about European farmers and their ability to commandeer tanks? and is it possible to learn this power?
Posted by: SturmToddler (po3vF) at July 06, 2022 11:51 AM (p03vF)
This particular problem seems to have started yesterday morning, so at least we have that data point to try narrowing down the possibilities.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 06, 2022 11:48 AM (4NlP1)
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Yep. On iOS 15.5
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 06, 2022 11:51 AM (YIVH2)
Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2022 11:51 AM (/NCI4)
1/3 want to overthrow
1/3 want national divorce
1/3 want harder voting
Without consensus you'll get nothing, and like it. Which is where we've been for a decade or more. The conservative movement has stagnated. Mostly because conservatives have put their faith in politicians whos primary interests are in themselves and not their base. A political solution to this stagnation isn't going to happen with people like that.
So, one has to wonder where that third will gravitate to once they realize their political saviors won't be of any use once the votes are tallied?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 06, 2022 11:51 AM (BFigT)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 06, 2022 11:51 AM (mGRvI)
The problem is that this "ship" is sailing down a channel with jagged rocks on either side, so too far a turn and it crashes and sinks.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 06, 2022 11:51 AM (llsW/)
https://bit.ly/3NN4yFK
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 06, 2022 10:36 AM (FVME7)
what is it about European farmers and their ability to commandeer tanks? and is it possible to learn this power?
Posted by: SturmToddler (po3vF) at July 06, 2022 11:51 AM (p03vF)
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Maybe this time they'll get market garden right?
Posted by: Diogenes at July 06, 2022 11:51 AM (anj39)
We must go through.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at July 06, 2022 11:52 AM (Y0TMu)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 06, 2022 11:52 AM (ZLI7S)
Alays LOVED the Lefties using the Established Law herring.
Little displays how hypocritical the Left is in real time as their reaction to SC decisions.
Posted by: garrett at July 06, 2022 11:52 AM (9GWTF)
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I wonder which AR-15 style gun it was.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 06, 2022 11:52 AM (FVME7)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 06, 2022 11:52 AM (44ww/)
But end of a republican form of government that focuses on maximizing "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness"? I think it is premature for that assessment. If so we wouldn't have survived the transition to Jacksonism, the Civil War, WW 1 and 2, Wilson's push for global government, FDR, or the 60s.
For being Americans a whole lot of people are pretty dismissive of the resilience of the American system and ideals.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at July 06, 2022 11:52 AM (Q0Nc1)
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My belief, the Revolution needed a Sam Adams to get started, but it also needed a John Adams to become serious. Both were necessary ingredients.
Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned) at July 06, 2022 11:52 AM (sX1BW)
I didn't know the UN is printing satire now. Must want to up against the Bee.
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Seriously, this was a un web site linked. Unbelievable.
Posted by: From about that time at July 06, 2022 11:52 AM (4780s)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 06, 2022 11:49 AM (44ww/)
I'll fite you all day on this. Adams was a sour, envious, fat little prick. He did have some good things going for him, but not enough to make me like him!
Posted by: Bonnie Blue - the ungrateful colonial at July 06, 2022 11:53 AM (gao0c)
Fight you? Why?
You're right. The democrats are led by incompetent, unlikeable villains. Any opposition would beat them. That the GOPe refuses to oppose so they can get rich exploiting their voters is the worst of betrayal.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 06, 2022 11:53 AM (T/s40)
We must go through.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at July 06, 2022 11:52 AM (Y0TMu)
Ramming speed! *blows steam whistle*
Posted by: D-Day at July 06, 2022 11:53 AM (4I/2K)
The police are shooting at them, they might need a tank.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 06, 2022 11:54 AM (llsW/)
Posted by: D-Day at July 06, 2022 11:53 AM (4I/2K)
LOL... I love that movie
Posted by: That's Doctor Jill at July 06, 2022 11:54 AM (bs+z0)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 06, 2022 11:51 AM (BFigT)
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When we get our Boston Commons moment, then consensus will arrive, swift and brutal.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at July 06, 2022 11:54 AM (Y0TMu)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 06, 2022 11:49 AM (2JVJo)
I would agree with this.
Posted by: Bonnie Blue - the ungrateful colonial at July 06, 2022 11:54 AM (gao0c)
Like that sci-fi old movie where a scientist has 2 heads. Then he splits in two . It hurts.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at July 06, 2022 11:55 AM (IdC/E)
Its literally a UN article on their website. Why does he argue this?
Hungry people work harder, and elites need those lowly peasants slaving in the fields to provide food and goods.
Literally.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 06, 2022 11:55 AM (llsW/)
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 06, 2022 11:46 AM (YIVH2)
Ja. Not gud.
Posted by: Captain Ernst Lindemann at July 06, 2022 11:49 AM (4I/2K)
Nicely played.
Posted by: Archer at July 06, 2022 11:55 AM (gmo/4)
This is 100% us, and it's because we are essentially slaves to a document that was written more than 230 years ago by a tiny group of white slave-owning men. And we cannot break out of the bondage that we have imposed on ourselves from feeling like we have to -- everything by our Supreme Court is decided in reference to this ancient document which is just not serving us well.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 06, 2022 11:55 AM (Do5/p)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at July 06, 2022 11:56 AM (V6f9+)
Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2022 11:51 AM (/NCI4)
Crazy talk.
Posted by: Bonnie Blue - the ungrateful colonial at July 06, 2022 11:56 AM (gao0c)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at July 06, 2022 11:56 AM (WKPeU)
Like that sci-fi old movie where a scientist has 2 heads. Then he splits in two . It hurts.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at July 06, 2022 11:55 AM (IdC/E)
Golly!
Posted by: Rosey Grier at July 06, 2022 11:56 AM (4I/2K)
Posted by: Winston Smith at July 06, 2022 11:56 AM (mE7cY)
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Some famous guy said something about a liar's twat goes around the world before the truth's laptop boots up.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 06, 2022 11:56 AM (FVME7)
Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2022 11:56 AM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 06, 2022 11:52 AM (FVME7)
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To the author's credit, he's probably correct. I have very many AR-15-style guns. They weren't produced by Colt.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at July 06, 2022 11:56 AM (Y0TMu)
AOP! You scoundrel! My not so real computer does have a *nix terminal underneath, and I can browse here via command line using lynx, if need be. I just get sick of all the ASCII art ads and blinking text.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 06, 2022 11:56 AM (4NlP1)
Posted by: SturmToddler (po3vF) at July 06, 2022 11:51 AM (p03vF)
Apparently they bought it, presumably from a military vehicle collector. I doubt they have ammo for the main gun.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2022 11:57 AM (C4SE9)
Revolution 2.0 anyone?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 06, 2022 11:57 AM (Oq/TM)
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BTO > BCO
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 06, 2022 11:42 AM (FVME7)
Cut 'em some slack jack.
They're just takin' care of business...
Posted by: The Uranus Corp at July 06, 2022 11:57 AM (BgMrQ)
Not really.
Though I wouldn't combine Adams w/ Madison. Madison was Jefferson's Toady.
Posted by: garrett at July 06, 2022 11:57 AM (9GWTF)
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at July 06, 2022 11:58 AM (BgMrQ)
...(Greenwood concerned)...Mastriano as governor could create a crisis in Pennsylvania's election in 2024 if Trump seeks the presidency again.
Posted by: Lola at July 06, 2022 11:58 AM (NIYa7)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at July 06, 2022 11:51 AM (mGRvI)
He and his wife were quite a team, but he was still a sour puss in other regards. But the big thing is he was more for a British style government, whereas Jefferson was NOT.
Posted by: Bonnie Blue - the ungrateful colonial at July 06, 2022 11:58 AM (gao0c)
Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned) at July 06, 2022 11:58 AM (sX1BW)
What part of "It doesn't work" don't they understand.. May they burn in hell for pushing this poison
Posted by: That's Doctor Jill at July 06, 2022 11:58 AM (bs+z0)
Though I wouldn't combine Adams w/ Madison. Madison was Jefferson's Toady.
Posted by: garrett at July 06, 2022 11:57 AM (9GWTF)
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Madison was Jefferson's research. Jefferson waved his hands in the air, Madison wrote the reasoning down.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 06, 2022 11:59 AM (kxFWR)
Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at July 06, 2022 11:59 AM (ufFY8)
That and they won't mention how many black kids die every hour in Chicago from gunshots.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 06, 2022 11:59 AM (mE7cY)
Posted by: SturmToddler
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IKR?
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 06, 2022 11:59 AM (Zbekl)
Ugh, yeah, I jumped the gun on the Safari only thing. I'll go back to my guess yesterday that there's some weird CDN stuff going on, something in the ad distribution network is timing out, and AoSHQ doesn't fallback gracefully.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 06, 2022 11:59 AM (4NlP1)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 06, 2022 12:00 PM (mE7cY)
Posted by: Erik In Texas at July 06, 2022 12:00 PM (7N808)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 06, 2022 12:00 PM (4NlP1)
Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned) at July 06, 2022 11:52 AM (sX1BW)
My view of Sam Adams is summed up by his reaction to Shays' Rebellion - a 1786 uprising of farmers in Western MA in response to crushing debt and a state government determined to collect taxes no matter what. Adams shrieked that rebellion against the MA government should be punished by death.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 06, 2022 12:00 PM (2JVJo)
You haven't seen funny until you see 100 dachshunds in a stampede.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 06, 2022 12:00 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: kallisto at July 06, 2022 12:01 PM (dCxaZ)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 06, 2022 12:01 PM (44ww/)
Some of us have businesses that won't allow it, so we have to use our phones.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2022 12:01 PM (Tj+Ak)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 06, 2022 11:52 AM (ZLI7S)
Manifest destiny or something. This always brings tears to my eyes when I read about it. It must have been an amazing time to be alive. Such great men doing great things - so smart and talented and self-motivated. A lot of that is really missing these days.
Posted by: Bonnie Blue - the ungrateful colonial at July 06, 2022 12:01 PM (gao0c)
You have this a bit wrong.
He wanted a Functional Government. At the time, there was really only one example in the world to follow.
Add to that, the Magna Carta is the predecessor of the Declaration in import to humanity / Western Ideals.
Jefferson's vision of actual governance was much more that of a Sophmore in College during a bong session.
Posted by: garrett at July 06, 2022 12:01 PM (9GWTF)
Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned) at July 06, 2022 11:52 AM
Sam Adams : Donald Trump
John Adams : Ron DeSantis
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 06, 2022 12:02 PM (Do5/p)
They aren't pushing it because it works. They're pushing it because it's a federal program.
( And they vastly overestimate GWB's influence with his erstwhile voters).
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 06, 2022 12:02 PM (T/s40)
Madison was a smart dude. That's how you corner the Real Estate in and around DC...
but, he was Jefferson's bitch.
Posted by: garrett at July 06, 2022 12:02 PM (9GWTF)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 06, 2022 12:03 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 06, 2022 11:56 AM (4NlP1)
Heh! I was mainly mocking the folks who insist on using a phone, clearly an inferior implement, to read AOS. I am using Brave, running on an old Win7 box, and I have a 23" monitor to view it on. Yeah, I get the blinking text from the cryptoscammer, but I'm, only on the main page long enough to select a thread, anyway. But no popups or redirects.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2022 12:03 PM (C4SE9)
Iceberg dead ahead!!!
Posted by: Guy What Forget His Binoculars at July 06, 2022 12:03 PM (w9Wax)
Not my sessions. I had visions of welding imperial power while my harem feed me peeled grapes and wine.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 06, 2022 12:03 PM (ZLI7S)
But. He was a toady.
Posted by: garrett at July 06, 2022 12:03 PM (9GWTF)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 06, 2022 12:03 PM (txdEq)
Madison was a smart dude. That's how you corner the Real Estate in and around DC...
but, he was Jefferson's bitch.
Posted by: garrett at July 06, 2022 12:02 PM (9GWTF)
Dolly's cupcakes though *chef's kiss*
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 06, 2022 12:03 PM (4I/2K)
Not my sessions. I had visions of welding imperial power while my harem feed me peeled grapes and wine.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 06, 2022 12:03 PM (ZLI7S)
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So, you're a Hamilton man.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 06, 2022 12:04 PM (kxFWR)
What part of "It doesn't work" don't they understand.. May they burn in hell for pushing this poison
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Yep, how many studies have there been now showing that the "vaccines" actually make people more susceptible to becoming infected with the virus, not less?
And yet they keep pushing this garbage on people, and have even approved it for little kids and infants.
It's insane.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at July 06, 2022 12:04 PM (MvHI3)
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OuBGWUSJGp4
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 06, 2022 12:04 PM (FVME7)
And/or there's some out-of-spec JS thing that happens to work in Chrome and they didn't test it elsewhere. For all the articles that appeared around 2014 bewailing that Safari was the new IE 6, Chrome has very much become that.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2022 12:04 PM (ZGrMX)
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Still ... the Declaration remains the greatest political document ever written, so he's got that going for him.
Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned) at July 06, 2022 12:04 PM (sX1BW)
1. Philosopher King!
2. ???????
3. Imperialism w/ Harem and Fresh Grapes.
Posted by: garrett at July 06, 2022 12:04 PM (9GWTF)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 06, 2022
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True enough. Agent 86 was nobody's genius, but he was loyal and (usually) brave.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 06, 2022 12:05 PM (txdEq)
Austrian government is now blaming the doctors they threatened with unlicensing as the bad guys re: the jabs.
Posted by: kallisto at July 06, 2022 12:05 PM (dCxaZ)
Might be worth a shot to ignore it for a couple decades and clean house, no?
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 06, 2022 12:05 PM (BFigT)
Not an argument to be had from me. But, Jefferson was an ideals man and conversely, Hamilton was a Mechanic.
Posted by: garrett at July 06, 2022 12:05 PM (9GWTF)
Posted by: JackStraw
Manifest destiny or something. This always brings tears to my eyes when I read about it. It must have been an amazing time to be alive. Such great men doing great things - so smart and talented and self-motivated. A lot of that is really missing these days.
Posted by: Bonnie Blue
Knew more, with less access, than we know now, with the entirety of human knowledge at our fingertips.
Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2022 12:05 PM (Tj+Ak)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 06, 2022 12:03 PM
Wellington Boot > Max Boot.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2022 12:06 PM (4p7Em)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 06, 2022
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True enough. Agent 86 was nobody's genius, but he was loyal and (usually) brave.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 06, 2022 12:05 PM (txdEq)
With Agent 99 backing you up, a guy could really go places.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 06, 2022 12:06 PM (4I/2K)
You may say I'm a dreamer ....
When my grandfather died we found an old document that Hamilton had written when he was the Sec of the Treasury.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 06, 2022 12:06 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: garrett at July 06, 2022 12:05 PM (9GWTF)
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Hamilton's plan to assume state level debt to build credit for the new federal government was when things began going off the rails.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 06, 2022 12:06 PM (kxFWR)
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 06, 2022 12:00 PM
In that John Adams miniseries, where John Adams was played by Paul Giamatti and Sam Adams was played by Danny Huston, wasn't Sam Adams shown as a key instigator in the tar and feathering during the Boston Tea Party? And then shown to be all in favor of railroading Red Coat troops for something, I can't remember. Not sure if that series was completely historically accurate?
(Need to did out my DVD of that series and watch it again, been too long).
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 06, 2022 12:06 PM (Do5/p)
Posted by: creeper at July 06, 2022 12:06 PM (cTCuP)
Posted by: kallisto at July 06, 2022 12:07 PM (dCxaZ)
Not really.
Though I wouldn't combine Adams w/ Madison. Madison was Jefferson's Toady.
Posted by: garrett at July 06, 2022 11:57 AM (9GWTF)
I suppose you could call Madison Jefferson's toady, but I also liked him, so there you go! LOL Jefferson's biggest downfall was his inability or lack of discipline to budget and manage his finances. However, he was a great thinker and experimenter with an awesome garden!
Posted by: Bonnie Blue - the ungrateful colonial at July 06, 2022 12:07 PM (gao0c)
Posted by: JackStraw at July 06, 2022 12:06 PM (ZLI7S)
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I love that sort of stuff.
I got about a dozen letters written and signed by William Howard Taft when my grandfather died. One was written while he was president, the rest while he was governor of Ohio or the Philippines.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 06, 2022 12:07 PM (kxFWR)
Dude does a great job
Posted by: AlaBAMA at July 06, 2022 12:07 PM (mE7cY)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2022 12:07 PM (C4SE9)
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Great scene. No one has ever liked the lackeys that made up the administrative state.
Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned) at July 06, 2022 12:07 PM (sX1BW)
It is incumbent upon us who can see this unfolding to be prepared. Over the years, our liberty was paid for in too much blood and too many tears to just give it up to screaming, ignorant lefties. Their rights do not trump ours.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 06, 2022 12:07 PM (anj39)
We're at a point where all phones run either BSD Unix (Apple) or Linux (Android) on processors more powerful than average desktop PCs from 10 years ago. I don't think you can really call them *that* inferior.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2022 12:08 PM (ZGrMX)
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OuBGWUSJGp4
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 06, 2022 12:04 PM
Of course it would. You oxygen thieves would have to get real jobs.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2022 12:08 PM (4p7Em)
now Manchin wants to rein in drug prices
Posted by: REDACTED at July 06, 2022 12:08 PM (us2H3)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 06, 2022 12:03 PM
Wellington Boot > Max Boot.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at July 06, 2022 12:06 PM (4p7Em)
Dog shit on my boot > Max Boot
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at July 06, 2022 12:08 PM (V6f9+)
Again, you are looking at the ideal and not the actual job of establishing a freaking government / nation / economy out of thin air.
Posted by: garrett at July 06, 2022 12:08 PM (9GWTF)
Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 06, 2022 12:08 PM (4NlP1)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 06, 2022 12:09 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned) at July 06, 2022 11:52 AM (sX1BW)
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Sam Adams was the match that lit the revolutionary fire. But Virginians piled the wood. John Adams and the Federalists came later. So I admire all the players involved.
Though, I admit, so a little disgust with Jefferson's spendthrift ways, because I always feared he might have sold some of his kids in his two bankruptcy-avoidance auctions. William Safire says no, though, so I guess not...
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at July 06, 2022 12:09 PM (j/SnA)
Posted by: garrett at July 06, 2022 12:08 PM (9GWTF)
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There were other ways to establish a line of credit than giving his home state of New York a huge gift.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 06, 2022 12:09 PM (kxFWR)
Again, you are looking at the ideal and not the actual job of establishing a freaking government / nation / economy out of thin air.
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I think he was making a joke ... sort of ... well maybe there is some truth there ... we were doomed from the start.
Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned) at July 06, 2022 12:09 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2022 12:09 PM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 06, 2022 12:09 PM (63Dwl)
Cone of silence replaced by a fedora of smarminess.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at July 06, 2022 12:08 PM (4NlP1)
*facepalm* Not the Cone of Silence again!
Posted by: Chief at July 06, 2022 12:10 PM (4I/2K)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at July 06, 2022 12:05 PM (BFigT)
Might be time to derail this new, long train of abuse.
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 06, 2022 12:10 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2022 12:08 PM (ZGrMX)
Sure I can. Tiny screens, so you have to blow the page up, and then scroll around to read it all. No physical keyboard. Tinny, squeaky speakers. Spyware.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2022 12:10 PM (C4SE9)
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at July 06, 2022 12:10 PM (M9XmQ)
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at July 06, 2022 12:10 PM (flINI)
Posted by: Diogenes at July 06, 2022 12:11 PM (anj39)
>>I got about a dozen letters written and signed by William Howard Taft when my grandfather died. One was written while he was president, the rest while he was governor of Ohio or the Philippines.
Yea, those are great finds. There used to be an old book store/document shop near the State House in Boston with all kinds of original stuff. Most of it was fairly trivial in importance but everything was had written in those days of course so there was an interesting historical record of everyday stuff not just big events.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 06, 2022 12:11 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Dr. Claw at July 06, 2022 12:11 PM (T/s40)
>>Biden Admin Denies That We're In a Recession
The real fun is going to begin when US GDP dips below 20 trillion and China GDP is relatively close to ours making them a near peer financially.
We are entering a very dangerous and potentially catastrophic and nation ending period.
And the amazing thing is this wreckage is intentional.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 06, 2022 12:11 PM (9Na8q)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 06, 2022 12:10 PM (C4SE9)
👍
Posted by: Chief at July 06, 2022 12:11 PM (4I/2K)
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 06, 2022 12:12 PM (Zbekl)
https://tinyurl.com/2s366pet
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 06, 2022 12:12 PM (2JVJo)
Posted by: SH (Roe Overturned) at July 06, 2022 11:52 AM (sX1BW)
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You also need a Ben Franklin to go out and find at least one ally to help fund and provision a revolution.
Posted by: Diogenes at July 06, 2022 12:12 PM (anj39)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at July 06, 2022 12:12 PM (9Na8q)
Posted by: gdgm+ at July 06, 2022 12:12 PM (mucm9)
Posted by: DJT, Beastmaster at July 06, 2022 12:12 PM (w9Wax)
Scale of 1 to 10.
2 2 Stars
1 3 Stars
1 No Stars.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 06, 2022 12:13 PM (76TD/)
Posted by: garrett at July 06, 2022 12:01 PM (9GWTF)
Call it what you will, I stand with Jefferson. There were a lot of "un-American ideas in how John Adams wanted to structure things (like wanting a king).
Posted by: Bonnie Blue - the ungrateful colonial at July 06, 2022 12:13 PM (gao0c)
Are you thinking of the Brattle Book Shop?
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at July 06, 2022 12:13 PM (2JVJo)
Sure. And some of them might have worked as well or better. Might.
But Hamilton's plan worked to establishh us as an actual power on the world stage in an extremely short timeframe.
I'll not second guess him because the dude was fucking brilliant. Also. Like Madison, he actually put hiis ass on the front lines of the Revolution.
Jefferson, on the other hand, did not.
Posted by: garrett at July 06, 2022 12:13 PM (9GWTF)
And the amazing thing is this wreckage is intentional.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
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Yep.
Potatoes are coming in nicely, and will be making homemade chips shortly.
And another trip to Aldi's is in order.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at July 06, 2022 12:14 PM (Zbekl)
Screen size is fine, you can double-tap to auto-fit the comments. You don't need a physical keyboard, wireless earbuds > speakers, and of course Android exists as a product entirely so Google can sell your personal information (same reason everything Google makes exists). But most people know that going in.
Posted by: Ian S. at July 06, 2022 12:14 PM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: rickb223 at July 06, 2022 12:05 PM (Tj+Ak)
Exactly! It saddens me to no end.
Posted by: Bonnie Blue - the ungrateful colonial at July 06, 2022 12:15 PM (gao0c)
What comes out of this existential conflict that is gripping the world will not be restoration any more than the NT crowd's expectation that the conservatives will come back to the plantation in the post-Trump era will be fulfilled.
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I agree with the post in general, but not this point. From where I'm watching, we have another generation before reflexive Party loyalty from the GOP base goes away. Conservatives are lining up to vote for these people again. If the last seven years haven't learned 'em, nothing's gonna do it.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 06, 2022 12:16 PM (IXpV7)
But, he was an orphan from the Dutch East Indies / Carribean.
Posted by: garrett at July 06, 2022 12:16 PM (9GWTF)
Thor:Love and Thunder.
The movie - "There is no eternal reward."
Reviewers - "What about Valhalla?"
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 06, 2022 12:16 PM (76TD/)
That is exactly the argument of the left: we have to ignore the constitution to fix things and bring about utopia.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 06, 2022 12:17 PM (llsW/)
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I happened to watch the Adams defends the Boston Massacre episode just as Rittenhouse was in trial. I'm surprised they didn't burn that episode!
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, NBC's presidential historian . . .
Michael Beschloss@BeschlossDC
Any possibility that Highland Park person drove to Wisconsin after yesterday's atrocity in the knowledge that Kyle Rittenhouse was "acquitted of all charges" after shootings there?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 06, 2022 12:18 PM (FVME7)
We shouldn't hold them up higher than the elected branches. They're no better and no worse than the people who serve in the elected branches. But where we do draw the line is when they start setting policy based on their personal views or even more so, views that are not expressed in the Constitution.
In the dissent in Dred Scott in 1856 there was this Justice Curtis, and he couldn't have put it better. If Justice Curtis were nominated by President Bush today, people like Chuck Schumer would say he's an extremist and he's unqualified. Justice Curtis said, speaking up against the decision of the court upholding slavery,
"When a strict interpretation of the Constitution, according to the fixed rules which govern the interpretation of laws is abandoned, and the theoretical opinions of individuals are allowed to control its meaning, we no longer have a Constitution. We are under the government of individual men who for the time being have power to declare what the Constitution is according their own views of what it ought to mean."
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 06, 2022 12:18 PM (Do5/p)
I think.
Posted by: garrett at July 06, 2022 12:18 PM (9GWTF)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 06, 2022 12:18 PM (llsW/)
Jefferson, on the other hand, did not.
Posted by: garrett at July 06, 2022 12:13 PM (9GWTF)
Yeah, and Trump didn't serve either.
Posted by: Bonnie Blue - the ungrateful colonial at July 06, 2022 12:18 PM (gao0c)
Jefferson, on the other hand, did not.
Posted by: garrett at July 06, 2022 12:13 PM (9GWTF)
Yeah, and Trump didn't serve either.
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Niether did Biden or Obama, either.
Posted by: Puddinhead at July 06, 2022 12:20 PM (tiR3O)
Posted by: garrett at July 06, 2022 12:21 PM (9GWTF)
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at July 06, 2022 12:22 PM (nOYfY)
So you have this lawsuit, and it comes before the Supreme Court, and who's the chief justice? John Marshall. John Marshall was also a political confidante of Adams' over the years and a footnote, he was a distant cousin of Jefferson's and they were frequently political adversaries in Virginia.
So the bottom line is this case comes before the court -- and let me cut to the chase. Marshall uses the occasion of the case to basically announce -- and, of course, I paraphrase -- he says, "You know what? When it comes to constitutional issues, we'll basically have the final say here, folks. I just want to make that clear, that somebody has to do it, and we'll do it," and Jefferson went nuts.
And for the rest of his life he was the biggest critic of what he considered a seizure of power by the Supreme Court. He called it "the despotism of an oligarchy" way back in 1820, and since then it's gotten worse!
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at July 06, 2022 12:22 PM (Do5/p)
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Dude zigged when he should've zagged.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 06, 2022 12:23 PM (FVME7)
I don't begrudge Ace trying to make money, hell I hit the tip jar when I can, but the function of the site is borderline now.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at July 06, 2022 11:33 AM (V6f9+)
Firefox + NoScript works for me. Sorry about loss of ad revenue with Javascript disabled, but the buggy ads make the site unusable.
Posted by: a.moron at July 06, 2022 12:23 PM (tu3iY)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 06, 2022 12:24 PM (llsW/)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 06, 2022 12:18 PM (llsW/)
Apparently everything I hated from Ragnarok got amped up to 11 in Love and Thunder.
Expect a shitty comedy rather than anything good.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at July 06, 2022 12:25 PM (V6f9+)
Seems they are succeeding. With Jane, Thor's hammer repairs itself.
Apparently there is a being at the center of the universe that can grant one wish. Just one wish.
One of the reviewers spotted a dig at Christianity, a slur at "the carpenter god."
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 06, 2022 12:26 PM (76TD/)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning the value of horror with Wes Craven at July 06, 2022 11:28 AM (kxFWR)
I can't use my iphone for AoS at all now. This site doesn't load completely on it anymore.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at July 06, 2022 12:26 PM (Qhnrt)
Posted by: Maj. Healey at July 06, 2022 12:27 PM (MkYsY)
Posted by: Archimedes at July 06, 2022 11:12 AM (/NCI4) "
Cornhole, the game.
Discuss.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 06, 2022 12:27 PM (1n+EO)
Yes, that is the overriding sense from these reviewers. Everything is played for a joke. Thor for most of the movie is a bumbling incompetent idiot.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 06, 2022 12:28 PM (76TD/)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton
It was brilliant in it's way. With one hand, the Court says it couldn't possibly adjudicate the issue because Congress hadn't identified that as within its jurisdiction while with the other hand they take heaping helpings of power. (I also like the Pope response to Charlemagne wanting to be Emperor. "Fine," he metaphorically said, "I'll crown you" thus becoming emperor maker.)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 06, 2022 12:31 PM (FVME7)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at July 06, 2022 12:32 PM (llsW/)
Jefferson was a fuckup in his later life.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 06, 2022 12:36 PM (lKAqb)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 06, 2022 11:11 AM (WWh8n)
History tells us representative governments once they fail are not replaced by representative governments.
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What about when a non-representative government fails? Because while ours is one on paper - it doesn't act like it in reality anymore.
Posted by: Black JEM at July 06, 2022 12:37 PM (xWZcb)
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 06, 2022 12:37 PM (lKAqb)
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at July 06, 2022 12:38 PM (lKAqb)
See https://bit.ly/3P0HtAM and https://bit.ly/3aklmGs
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 06, 2022 12:38 PM (FVME7)
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Posted by: Bonnie Blue - the ungrateful colonial at July 06, 2022 12:01 PM (gao0c)
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Or something. Manifest Destiny was a creation of Democrats like Jackson.
Jefferson and Adams would've said, "Divine Providence. "
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at July 06, 2022 12:44 PM (zuibd)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 06, 2022 12:45 PM (FVME7)
Discuss.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at July 06, 2022 12:27 PM (1n+EO)
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I first heard about that game a year or so ago. Many people around here play it. These people obviously never watched Beavis and Butthead.
Posted by: Corona at July 06, 2022 12:54 PM (nakGR)
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at July 06, 2022 12:44 PM (zuibd)
Those were the words I should have used but didn't come to mind.
Posted by: Bonnie Blue - the ungrateful colonial at July 06, 2022 12:56 PM (gao0c)
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