Monday Overnight Open Thread (7/4/22) Independence Day Edition

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In Congress, July 4, 1776

The unanimous Declaration of the thirteen united States of America, When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.

He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.

He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.

He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.

He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.

He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected; whereby the Legislative powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.

He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.

He has obstructed the Administration of Justice, by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary powers.

He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone, for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.

He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people, and eat out their substance.

He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil power.

He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:

For Quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:

For protecting them, by a mock Trial, from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:

For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:

For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury:

For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences

For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies:

For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws, and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:

For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.

He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.

He has plundered our seas, ravaged our Coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.

He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.

He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.

He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our Brittish brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which, would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.

We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these United Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States; that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

Georgia

Button Gwinnett

Lyman Hall

George Walton

North Carolina

William Hooper

Joseph Hewes

John Penn

South Carolina

Edward Rutledge

Thomas Heyward, Jr.

Thomas Lynch, Jr.

Arthur Middleton

Massachusetts

John Hancock

Maryland

Samuel Chase

William Paca

Thomas Stone

Charles Carroll of Carrollton

Virginia

George Wythe

Richard Henry Lee

Thomas Jefferson

Benjamin Harrison

Thomas Nelson, Jr.

Francis Lightfoot Lee

Carter Braxton

Pennsylvania

Robert Morris

Benjamin Rush

Benjamin Franklin

John Morton

George Clymer

James Smith

George Taylor

James Wilson

George Ross

Delaware

Caesar Rodney

George Read

Thomas McKean

New York

William Floyd

Philip Livingston

Francis Lewis

Lewis Morris

New Jersey

Richard Stockton

John Witherspoon

Francis Hopkinson

John Hart

Abraham Clark

New Hampshire

Josiah Bartlett

William Whipple

Massachusetts

Samuel Adams

John Adams

Robert Treat Paine

Elbridge Gerry

Rhode Island

Stephen Hopkins

William Ellery

Connecticut

Roger Sherman

Samuel Huntington

William Williams

Oliver Wolcott

New Hampshire

Matthew Thornton


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The Quotes of The Day


Quote I

If we want enough quality recruits, we need to make our military great again. Kurt Schlichter


Quote II

“Crime is soaring and cops are leaving in droves. Anybody can see that. All this liberalism is obviously a failure. But this is what they wanted. It’s a stupid experiment and it’s the people who will pay in the end.” Recently retired NYCPD officer,Thomas J. Gambardella


Quote III

“I think there’s no question, I mean, a man as dangerous as Donald Trump can absolutely never be anywhere near the Oval Office ever again." Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY)


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Call me naive. But..........If you own a business moving it is a pain in the ass. Why would you leave Florida for Connecticut?

Connecticut governor to Florida business owners: Move to our women's rights, family-friendly state
Florida governors long have tried enticing Northeastern businesses to the Sunshine State's warmer, income tax-free clime. This week, Connecticut's governor, Ned Lamont, exacted his revenge in this open letter to Florida business owners, using Florida's political climate as an incentive.


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I get paid handsomely. But, not enough to take the money and run. What about you?

What would you do if you checked your bank account and found you had mistakenly been paid 300 times your normal salary?

Well, one employee who discovered he had been paid nearly £150,000 for a month’s work instead of the usual £450 decided to duck and run.

The unnamed staff member at Consorcio Industrial de Alimentos in Chile did initially raise the eye-watering overpayment for May with his manager who then flagged it to HR.

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Bitter Clinger submitted the following. Something to think about on this Independence Day.


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How is that gun control working out in Europe?


Speaking of gun control. Chicago has been a pleasant metro area this past weekend.

July 4th Weekend: At least 54 Shot Friday into Monday Morning Across Mayor Lori Lightfoot’s Chicago


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***SNORT*** This is more direct than tossing some tea into the Boston Harbor.


Dutch Protesters Pour Manure On Government Offices Over Industry-Killing Regulations

Dutch farmers who have been protesting for weeks over the government's radical plan to cut nitrogen emissions by 50% - 95% by 2030 have taken things to the next level - pouring manure on government offices in response to the plan which would cause widespread chaos - including the death of 1/3 of Dutch farms.


The sad thing is that the manure spread doesn't kill the stench of government.


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Another intriguing fact about Florida I did not know.

Giant African land snails put Florida town in quarantine


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This link has so much "Common Sense". It's a shame that it has to be written. Especially at this time of enlightenment.

Male Bodies Don’t Belong in Female Football
‘This nagging feeling that she had an unfair advantage arose every time we hit each other in practice. For me, it was like hitting a brick wall.’


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The ONT Musical Interlude & Fireworks Emporium

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On this day: July 4, 2003 - Barry White
American record producer and singer-songwriter and five-time Grammy Award-winner Barry White died from Kidney failure aged 58. Produced hits for girl group Love Unlimited and other chart hits include 1974 hit 'You're The First, The Last, My Everything', 1974 US No.1 'Can't Get Enough Of Your Love, Babe'. Bubblegum act The Banana Splits recorded his songs and he arranged the 1963 hit 'Harlem Shuffle' for Bob & Earl. via thisdayinmusic.com

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Born on this day: July 4, 1938 - Bill Withers
Bill Withers, American singer-songwriter who had the 1972 US No.1 single 'Lean On Me', 1988 UK No.4 single 'Lovely Day', which was first released in 1978. Toward the end of the song, Withers holds a note for 18 seconds. This is believed to be the second-longest note in UK chart history. Morten Harket of A-ha's 20-second note in "Summer Moved On" is the longest. Withers died from heart complications in Los Angeles on March 30, 2020 age 81. via thisdayinmusic.com


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His hot dog has a first and last name. Genius Award Winner.

PINELLAS COUNTY, Fla. (WFLA) — A New Port Richey man was arrested on a felony charge Saturday after authorities said he threw a hot dog at an officer who was warning him of violating a city ordinance, arrest documents said.

Officers said Jason Stoll, 47, of New Port Richey ignored the warnings and continued to sell hot dogs in the roadway Saturday around 12 a.m. after his street closure permit ended.


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There will be an increase in their allowance, immediately. Tonight's Feel Good Story of The Day.

10-Year-Old Brothers Save Dad From Drowning In Pool

An Alabama father says it still makes him emotional to think about the day he almost drowned, but it also fills him with pride because it was his own young sons and their friend who saved him.

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1 Primo

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 04, 2022 10:03 PM (F0YaR)

2

Első!

Posted by: Zettai at July 04, 2022 10:03 PM (6m39X)

3 Yay, Independence Day ONT!

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 04, 2022 10:04 PM (Bd6X8)

4 Good evening everyone!

Interesting that no one says - "Well, put your 'Button Gwinnett' right here on the dotted line."

Posted by: Tonypete at July 04, 2022 10:04 PM (Msys3)

5 Happy Independence day MisHum and thanks for the ONT!

Posted by: jewells45 at July 04, 2022 10:04 PM (nxdel)

6 If you don't believe in God can you believe in the constitution?

Posted by: jewells45 at July 04, 2022 10:05 PM (nxdel)

7 Happy Fourth everyone.

Posted by: Javems at July 04, 2022 10:05 PM (AmoqO)

8 5 Happy Independence day MisHum and thanks for the ONT!
Posted by: jewells45 at July 04, 2022 10:04 PM (nxdel)


You're welcome Jewells.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 04, 2022 10:06 PM (aA3+G)

9 Greetings:

One of the folk maxims in the printing industry used to be that you're not really a printer until you've moved a printing company.

Posted by: 11B40 at July 04, 2022 10:06 PM (uuklp)

10 That first post is archaic and doesn't represent everyone. We disown it.

Posted by: NPR, paid for by you at July 04, 2022 10:07 PM (a0KPx)

11 Happy Independence Day morons and thanks mh

Love Barry White. More importantly Mrs. F. loves Barry White. Watching her groove right now.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 04, 2022 10:07 PM (EZebt)

12 Signed back when personal honor meant something!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 04, 2022 10:07 PM (hOUT3)

13 Evening.

Wait...is today a holiday?

Posted by: Robert at July 04, 2022 10:08 PM (wWIsj)

14 Evening, Horde...How goes it?

Happy Independence Day!

Back to the grind tomorrow...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at July 04, 2022 10:08 PM (K5n5d)

15 11 Happy Independence Day morons and thanks mh

Love Barry White. More importantly Mrs. F. loves Barry White. Watching her groove right now.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 04, 2022 10:07 PM (EZebt)


Hopefully the groove keeps goin'

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 04, 2022 10:08 PM (aA3+G)

16 Wa.gwan

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at July 04, 2022 10:08 PM (nl8Bw)

17 Tonypete

That's because John Hancock wrote it so large that King George could see it.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 04, 2022 10:08 PM (u82oZ)

18 good evening horde

Posted by: wing at July 04, 2022 10:09 PM (PlW9M)

19 Misanthropic Humanitarian

Thank you. You do a great job, and make it look easy.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 04, 2022 10:09 PM (u82oZ)

20 (sips beer) Howdy.

(Lights an M80, runs)

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 04, 2022 10:10 PM (sAmhv)

21 That's because John Hancock wrote it so large that King George could see it.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

That makes perfect sense. Good thing they still taught cursive writing back then too!

Posted by: Tonypete at July 04, 2022 10:10 PM (Msys3)

22 Thanks MisHum....
I figured you'd have a fantastic July 4 ONT.
Awesome stories. Good music.
Again, thank you.

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 04, 2022 10:10 PM (fSS9K)

23 Nice MisHum, thanks!

Posted by: dartist at July 04, 2022 10:10 PM (+ya+t)

24 Thank you MisHum, a great ONT.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at July 04, 2022 10:10 PM (dMJEF)

25 Interesting that no one says - "Well, put your 'Button Gwinnett' right here on the dotted line."
Posted by: Tonypete at July 04, 2022 10:04 PM (Msys3)

Putting your Button Gwinnett right here sounds kind of dirty.

Posted by: Robert at July 04, 2022 10:10 PM (wWIsj)

26 Now THAT is a big grey box.

Posted by: GWB at July 04, 2022 10:11 PM (IEo5i)

27 Thanks for the Yankee Doodle Dandy ONT, Mis Hum!

Our nation has been richly blessed by God and that is why it is special among all places on Earth.

God bless America! Happy Independence Day!

Posted by: Legally Sufficient at July 04, 2022 10:11 PM (xT18z)

28 If you don't believe in God can you believe in the constitution?
Posted by: jewells45 at July 04

Laws of Nature and Nature's God... Creator... seems to leave it flexible to a number of belief systems. Maybe not atheism. I guess they're on their own.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 04, 2022 10:11 PM (ftFVW)

29 HAPPY INDEPENDENCE ONT!

*lights firecrackers*

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 10:11 PM (/jQbM)

30 Roger Sherman was a signatory for CT.

"He is the only person to sign all four great state papers of the United States: the Continental Association, the Declaration of Independence, the Articles of Confederation, and the Constitution."

He came up with the Connecticut Compromise which gave small states equality in the Senate, which got the deal done.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 04, 2022 10:11 PM (i0slg)

31 Rocket's red glare. Bombs bursting in air.
NOT PHONEY BALONEY DRONEY LASERIUM BULLSHIT.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at July 04, 2022 10:12 PM (jRQbu)

32 I posted this before but I think it's worth reposting.

https://tinyurl.com/yyhrv6vh

She Spent a Decade Writing Fake Russian History. Wikipedia Just Noticed.

Posted by: Robert at July 04, 2022 10:12 PM (wWIsj)

33 This Schlicter guy sounds like it might be worth trying to read his books?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 04, 2022 10:12 PM (hOUT3)

34 Putting your Button Gwinnett right here sounds kind of dirty.
Posted by: Robert

"I gotcher Button Gwinnett rite herah!!"

*grabs self*

Posted by: Tonypete at July 04, 2022 10:12 PM (Msys3)

35 Tonypete

The USS John Hancock (DD-981) had the famous signature on the stern, vice the usual letters. Looked good.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 04, 2022 10:12 PM (u82oZ)

36 We must ban assault hot dogs.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 04, 2022 10:13 PM (4I/2K)

37 Schlicter's got a point, as usual. What rational, motivated, go-getting 18 year old wants to join an organization that's more interested in purging itself of increasingly arbitrary wrongthink than getting shit done?

Posted by: CppThis at July 04, 2022 10:14 PM (UewuT)

38 Connecticut governor to Florida business owners: Move to our women's rights, family-friendly state

Governor Hairgel of California is also trolling Florida. California is the "land of freedom", after all - freedom apparently consists only of being able to abort your baby, while having to accept a stifling political and cultural monoculture in all other respects.

Woke "advocates" think that this is actually going to happen: I truly wonder if the CA legislature understands that there will be an influx of political refugees from our own country and we have neither the housing or
transportation systems to accommodate those who want to come here.

...
1000% true for Oregon, too. Where do you think all the climate- and fascist-fleeing refugees in the
american west are gonna head?


For years, Oregon leftists have thought that millions of "climate refugees" are going to flee to Oregon next Thursday, apparently now joined by millions of "fascist-fleeing refugees".

Meanwhile, in the real world, the population of Portland dropped by 11,000 people last year.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 04, 2022 10:15 PM (I2/tG)

39 That last picture is very nearly the epitome of Americanism. It lacks only a couple of Garands in the frame to make it complete.

As for The Declaration. It bears repeating, and so thank you Mis Hum, for posting it. It's list of grievances is nearly as dead-on today, as it was, then. Just substitute "electronically monitored" for "quartering troops", and the effect is the same.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 04, 2022 10:15 PM (tkOps)

40 She Spent a Decade Writing Fake Russian History. Wikipedia Just Noticed.
Posted by: Robert at July 04, 2022 10:12 PM (wWIsj)

She sounds fabulist!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 10:15 PM (/jQbM)

41 Schlicter's got a point, as usual. What rational, motivated, go-getting 18 year old wants to join an organization that's more interested in purging itself of increasingly arbitrary wrongthink than getting shit done?
Posted by: CppThis

In addition why would you sign up to defend a country that you have been told is racist and irredeemable your entire life

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 04, 2022 10:15 PM (MGB5H)

42 We must ban assault hot dogs.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 04, 2022 10:13 PM (4I/2K)

The horror.

https://tinyurl.com/32kvp62a

Posted by: Robert at July 04, 2022 10:16 PM (wWIsj)

43 Maybe not atheism. I guess they're on their own.

That's the reason I asked. I put a post up on FB and my cousin and a friend (athiest) got into it. Even though this friend is a big American history buff and supposedly believes in the constitution he doesn't believe in God.

Posted by: jewells45 at July 04, 2022 10:16 PM (nxdel)

44 We must ban assault hot dogs.
Posted by: Count de Monet

We need common sense hot dog control!!

Most 16-30 year old women would probably support that with gusto.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 04, 2022 10:16 PM (Msys3)

45
Robert Bobby E. III Crimo - 22 years old .. When Gilligan goes Bad.

Posted by: Arbalest at July 04, 2022 10:16 PM (FlRtG)

46 Are you up for a little Button Gwinnet tonight?

Posted by: John Hancock's Wife at July 04, 2022 10:16 PM (ftFVW)

47 We must ban assault hot dogs.

Don't touch my weiner.

Posted by: jewells45 at July 04, 2022 10:16 PM (nxdel)

48 She sounds fabulist!
Posted by: vmom

iswydt - and it's hysterical.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 04, 2022 10:17 PM (Msys3)

49 " And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor."

Name *one* politician alive today that you would believe actually meant it when he signed that document!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 04, 2022 10:17 PM (hOUT3)

50 Good stuff, MH.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 04, 2022 10:17 PM (9eK5M)

51 That first post is archaic and doesn't represent everyone. We disown it.

Presumably, those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked have been sacked.

Ah, it's NPR. Never mind. Nobody is ever responsible or sacked.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 10:17 PM (/NCI4)

52 19 Misanthropic Humanitarian

Thank you. You do a great job, and make it look easy.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at July 04, 2022 10:09 PM (u82oZ)

You're kind Salty. Thank you.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 04, 2022 10:17 PM (aA3+G)

53 "If you own a business moving it is a pain in the ass."

No recent CT gov has ever run a business. At least not a legitimate one.

"The sad thing is that the manure spread doesn't kill the stench of government."

It actually sweetens it a bit...

Posted by: GWB at July 04, 2022 10:17 PM (IEo5i)

54 Little pooch is not enjoying the fireworks at all.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 04, 2022 10:17 PM (u73oe)

55 Here's my favorite photo of an American in uniform driving a vehicle in wartime: https://tinyurl.com/547rzne6

Posted by: El gp De Los Vientos at July 04, 2022 10:17 PM (qpX6U)

56 https://tinyurl.com/32kvp62a

Posted by: Robert at July 04, 2022 10:16 PM



That's rather hot if you think about it...

Posted by: Zettai at July 04, 2022 10:17 PM (6m39X)

57 A guy named Crimo...

Was his girlfriend named Missy Demeanor?

Posted by: Robert at July 04, 2022 10:18 PM (wWIsj)

58 A felony hotdog charge? Sounds like the law out of control again.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 04, 2022 10:18 PM (0ocXn)

59 If you don't believe in God can you believe in the constitution?
Posted by: jewells45 at July 04, 2022 10:05 PM (nxdel)

Not really. Most of the old liberal atheists like Christopher Hitchens would lie to themselves that we would have reached the same results through logic and reason.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 04, 2022 10:18 PM (qH6FZ)

60 If you look real close at the Boston Pops 4th concert you will see me. I lived right across the street from the hatch shell and the 4th celebrations were awesome.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2022 10:18 PM (ZLI7S)

61 Call me naive. But..........If you own a business moving it is a pain in the ass. Why would you leave Florida for Connecticut?

Wait til they and their employees find out what housing costs in Connecticut. I knew a woman who had moved to Michigan form Connecticut. Her husband had a great job. When their friends from Connecticut visited, they commented that they could buy 3 houses in Michigan for what they paid for 1 in Connecticut.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 04, 2022 10:18 PM (+lVUW)

62 “I think there’s no question, I mean, a man as dangerous as Donald Trump can absolutely never be anywhere near the Oval Office ever again." Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY)

I kind of want to start a donation fund to build the coming God King's throne room. Just to watch the heads explode.

"If your enemy is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him."

-Sonny ("the Chinaman") Tzu, Consigliere of The Fugazi Family

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 04, 2022 10:19 PM (cupoy)

63 If we want enough quality recruits, we need to make our military great again.

Nah Kurt, we'll just offer $50k enlistment bonuses. Seriously, that is what they are offering (up to, but a floor at $10k). Just make it thru basic, I think.

TFG did a fine job purging conventional generals and leaders for 8 years, and replacing them with wokes and jokes.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 04, 2022 10:19 PM (F0YaR)

64 Robert Bobby E. III Crimo - 22 years old .. When Gilligan goes Bad.

The guy is as thin and weak as Karen Carpenter. We now know why he went nuts; he wasn't getting any and wasn't likely too.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 10:19 PM (/NCI4)

65 Breaking: Two police officers were shot on the Ben Franklin Parkway in Philadelphia during the city's fireworks show. No report on their condition. The area is under lockdown.

Posted by: Buck Dharma at July 04, 2022 10:20 PM (8E8Am)

66 6 If you don't believe in God can you believe in the constitution?
Posted by: jewells45 at July 04, 2022 10:05 PM (nxdel)


Define 'believe'. It is entirely possible for a non-religious person to consider the Constitution to be the excellent foundation of the one country that seriously groks personal liberty, both forward-thinking and historically aware enough to consider that all governments go bad over time and that power has to flow from the citizens, not the state. Its system of checks and balances is quite unique, and has stymied almost 250 years worth of attempts to subvert the system into one man or party's sole dominion.

As far as spiritual fulfillment goes, well, that's not my department.

Posted by: CppThis at July 04, 2022 10:21 PM (UewuT)

67 If you don't believe in God can you believe in the constitution?
Posted by: jewells45 at July 04, 2022 10:05 PM (nxdel)

Hence Adams' quote:
Our constitution is made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly unsuited to government of any other. (from memory)

To have true liberty you have to be able and willing to govern yourself, first.

Galatians 5:13 - For you were called to freedom, brothers. Only do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another.

Posted by: GWB at July 04, 2022 10:21 PM (IEo5i)

68 Many of the signers were killed by battle wounds, or imprisoned, but Button Gwynnett dies in a duel in 1777.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 10:22 PM (/jQbM)

69 Even though this friend is a big American history buff and supposedly believes in the constitution he doesn't believe in God.
Posted by: jewells45 at July 04

That is tricky, since such belief is kind of central to the argument. I suppose if one really wants to bend the words they could interpret it as Law of Nature only, but I think that would have been somewhat radical at the time. Not sure how Nature would endow us with rights. Evolution wasn't the new thing yet.

I wouldn't kick out anyone who supports the documents, though.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 04, 2022 10:22 PM (ftFVW)

70 Eyyyy. Oooohhh! I just gassed up the Camaro. Howzabout we go down to LBI to suck back some brewskis and cruze for chicks, Johnny H? Look at these guns! [flexes]

Posted by: Richie Stockton at July 04, 2022 10:22 PM (EcQad)

71 OMG, they're actually describing Crimo as an "aspiring rapper".

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 10:22 PM (/NCI4)

72 Posted by: Buck Dharma at July 04, 2022 10:20 PM (8E8Am)

Prayers for the Philly cops and specially for Wyatt

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 10:23 PM (/jQbM)

73 Any more mass shootings to celebrate the 4th yet ???

Depends if there are any more homicidal trannies out there.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 04, 2022 10:23 PM (I2/tG)

74 The bank mistakenly deposited $300,000 in my account once but I didn't take it and run. Damn conscience! Never did me a bit of good!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 04, 2022 10:23 PM (FVME7)

75 72 OMG, they're actually describing Crimo as an "aspiring rapper".
Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 10:22 PM (/NCI4)

Any mention of a broken home? Any mention of any religious faith?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 04, 2022 10:24 PM (aA3+G)

76 If you look real close at the Boston Pops 4th concert you will see me. I lived right across the street from the hatch shell and the 4th celebrations were awesome.
Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2022 10:18 PM (ZLI7S)

We would watch from the roof of the old RMV HQ building on Nashua Street. Being IT the guards would let us into the building. That and we knew some State Police guys who would join us on the roof.

Posted by: Beartooth at July 04, 2022 10:24 PM (DWXXm)

77 47 We must ban assault hot dogs.

Don't touch my weiner.
Posted by: jewells45 at July 04, 2022 10:16 PM (nxdel)

As in Mr, Jewells, or is he about to learn about The Crying Game?

Posted by: Bete at July 04, 2022 10:24 PM (a0KPx)

78 "Any more mass shootings to celebrate the 4th yet ???"

Around here on July 4 evenings, the sky gets shot a lot.

Posted by: El gp De Los Vientos at July 04, 2022 10:24 PM (qpX6U)

79
William Paca

___________

A real ball buster. Lousy tipper too.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at July 04, 2022 10:24 PM (/U27+)

80 OMG, they're actually describing Crimo as an "aspiring rapper".

"Who was turning his life around."

First time I've heard of a white person getting that formulation.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at July 04, 2022 10:25 PM (I2/tG)

81

I've only recently learnt that Jefferson was but 33 years of age when he penned the Declaration...

Posted by: Zettai at July 04, 2022 10:25 PM (ll29Y)

82 "Aspiring rapper" is something of a meme in Chicago crime news. Usually he's just turning his life around after the 25th arrest, too.

Posted by: CppThis at July 04, 2022 10:25 PM (UewuT)

83 Any mention of a broken home? Any mention of any religious faith?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

Does anyone know his father's name?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 04, 2022 10:25 PM (hOUT3)

84 The illegal fireworks are going strong now! We are in the city limits...my kids just went out to light theirs.

Posted by: lin-duh at July 04, 2022 10:27 PM (UUBmN)

85 Love that bottom photo!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2022 10:27 PM (pxgly)

86 >>>Any more mass shootings to celebrate the 4th yet ???

>If you had 17 intelligence and law enforcement agencies to monitor social media you might be able to see some warning signs.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 04, 2022 10:27 PM (0ocXn)

87 OMG, they're actually describing Crimo as an "aspiring rapper".
Posted by: Archimedes

I saw an interview of Crimo's Uncle. The kid lived with this guy and another of his uncles. No mother or father mentioned during the interview. The uncle said he didn't work - well, he did have a job two years ago for a short time. The uncle didn't seem to interact with the kid much, that he spent most of time in his bedroom.

Whoever offered that there was no father in the picture earlier in the day nailed it.

Weird family is appears.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 04, 2022 10:27 PM (Msys3)

88 Does anyone know his father's name?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 04

His name is my name, too.

Posted by: Bobby Jingleheimer Crimo at July 04, 2022 10:27 PM (ftFVW)

89 86 The illegal fireworks are going strong now! We are in the city limits...my kids just went out to light theirs.
Posted by: lin-duh at July 04, 2022 10:27 PM (UUBmN)

Infant of your house?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 04, 2022 10:27 PM (aA3+G)

90 As in Mr, Jewells, or is he about to learn about The Crying Game?

lol! Nope. I don't have a weiner. Well except my dog, he's part weiner dog.

Posted by: jewells45 at July 04, 2022 10:28 PM (nxdel)

91 Any mention of a broken home? Any mention of any religious faith?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian

Does anyone know his father's name?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 04, 2022 10:25 PM (hOUT3)

You think a guy with "the Third" in his name was named after someone else but it's really just his parents trying to make him seem all high class and fancy.

Posted by: Robert at July 04, 2022 10:28 PM (wWIsj)

92 Love that bottom photo!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04

So, not a leg man?

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 04, 2022 10:28 PM (ftFVW)

93 58 A felony hotdog charge? Sounds like the law out of control again.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 04, 2022 10:18 PM (0ocXn)


It was a wiener-slap in the first degree.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik [DHS Verdict: MDM] at July 04, 2022 10:29 PM (DTX3h)

94 Infant of your house?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
---
Ha...ha! I'm never living that down, am I?

Posted by: lin-duh at July 04, 2022 10:29 PM (UUBmN)

95 >>Can you believe in god and believe in slavery? apparently so.


Well you're a Democrat and Democrats promoted slavery so you tell us, Retardo.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2022 10:29 PM (ZLI7S)

96 Infant of your house?

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 04, 2022 10:27 PM



*snort

Posted by: Zettai at July 04, 2022 10:29 PM (ll29Y)

97 lol! Nope. I don't have a weiner.
Posted by: jewells45

You know the rules - pics. . . .

Posted by: Tonypete at July 04, 2022 10:29 PM (Msys3)

98 Does anyone know his father's name?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 04

Saw something where dad owns a shop in town and ran for mayor in 20.

Posted by: Bete at July 04, 2022 10:29 PM (a0KPx)

99 83
I've only recently learnt that Jefferson was but 33 years of age when he penned the Declaration...
Posted by: Zettai

Funny how we once expected, and had, political leaders that were capable and competent in something besides graft and duplicity!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 04, 2022 10:29 PM (hOUT3)

100

100

Posted by: Zettai at July 04, 2022 10:29 PM (ll29Y)

101 Fireworks going off all over the place. I love living in a free state again.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 04, 2022 10:30 PM (u73oe)

102 Declaration of Independence.... only question is... are we there yet again?

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 04, 2022 10:30 PM (oHd/0)

103 "When Gilligan goes Bad"...Arbalest at 45

That's why he looks familiar!

Posted by: boynsea at July 04, 2022 10:30 PM (cx155)

104 Two police officers shot in Philly at the Art Museum area, on The Parkway. There's been the Welcome America Show there all day and then the fireworks. Reportedly, police helicopters were in the air with the fireworks going off. A 6 year is girl has been reported as missing. Hopefully, some capable adult has her. The area is on lockdown, at least one building is surrounded by police.

Posted by: Lola at July 04, 2022 10:30 PM (NIYa7)

105 Love Barry White. More importantly Mrs. F. loves Barry White. Watching her groove right now.
Posted by: San Franpsycho

That video must've been early in his career before he went full love walrus.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 04, 2022 10:31 PM (FVME7)

106 I was just on Twitter, and I searched highland park. There are pictures of the shooter at MAGA rally, wrapping himself in a Trump flag, and apparently his father was a Republican opponent of the incumbent Democrat. The opinion on Twitter is that he is a radicalized Trump supporter. Has anyone else seen this online yet? What do you think? (Reposted query from earlier thread)

Posted by: YES, BUT at July 04, 2022 10:31 PM (DgmAE)

107 96 Infant of your house?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian
---
Ha...ha! I'm never living that down, am I?
Posted by: lin-duh at July 04, 2022 10:29 PM (UUBmN)

#2Weeks

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 04, 2022 10:31 PM (aA3+G)

108 Robert Bobby E. III Crimo - 22 years old .. When Gilligan goes Bad.
Posted by: Arbalest at July 04, 2022 10:16 PM (FlRtG)

Naw. Gilligan had an order of magnitude more testosterone than the shooterfag.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2022 10:32 PM (pxgly)

109 Missing the Big Ass show that Toby Kieth used to put on every year at his golf club. Various reasons he isn't this year but that thing was insane. 45min at least of "finale" worthy fireworks.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 04, 2022 10:32 PM (MGB5H)

110 47 We must ban assault hot dogs.

Don't touch my weiner.
Posted by: jewells45 at July 04, 2022 10:16 PM (nxdel)

Are they the ones with the thing going up????

/turns off pron hub...

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 04, 2022 10:32 PM (oHd/0)

111 Heh. Crosby, Stlls and Nash put their stuff back on Spotify. Shockingly, 60s radicals sell out for cash once again.

Posted by: Bete at July 04, 2022 10:32 PM (a0KPx)

112 I guess the cop was not an Armour Hot Dog Kid.
https://youtu.be/3fQwJdXFQlU

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 04, 2022 10:33 PM (4I/2K)

113 We must ban assault hot dogs.

Don't touch my weiner.
Posted by: jewells45

Are they the ones with the thing going up????

/turns off pron hub...
Posted by: Romeo13

Don't go off half cocked.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 04, 2022 10:33 PM (Msys3)

114 Lovely Fourth of July ONT, MisHum. Thank you.

Posted by: Ladyl at July 04, 2022 10:33 PM (qpPdw)

115 YES, BUT at 108

Bullshit. Twitter is known for Bullshit.

Posted by: boynsea at July 04, 2022 10:33 PM (cx155)

116
Thinking about my Dad who died 2001. Joined the Army Air Corp in 1944. He had been an Engineering student.
Spent most of the of the war training on the Norden bomb sight. Was in the Army of Occupation in Japan after the war.

Miss you Dad.

Posted by: Frankly at July 04, 2022 10:33 PM (yPQ+b)

117 That Cheney remark about Trump being "dangerous " reads me of a quote from Shane:

"He's dangerous all right." Father said it in a musing way. Then he chuckled. "But not to us, my dear … In fact, I don't think you ever had a safer man in your house."

I'm with Father.

Posted by: JM in Florida at July 04, 2022 10:33 PM (Wjzzm)

118 Posted by: YES, BUT at July 04, 2022 10:31 PM (DgmAE)

Why would a Trump supporter, shoot up a 4th of July Parade, that is celebrating... INSURRECTION?

Whackos gonna Whacko.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 04, 2022 10:34 PM (oHd/0)

119 I moved my bookstore twice; the first time, several blocks, the second time two doors north. I swore I was going to die in the last store because Hell would freeze over before I moved it one more time. I don't even want to imagine moving it ten or twelve states.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- I wasn't particularly fond of the '70s the first time around at July 04, 2022 10:34 PM (H31K8)

120 Yeah, Trump supporters often have social media accounts with the Antifa rose on them.

Posted by: Bete at July 04, 2022 10:35 PM (a0KPx)

121 I was just on Twitter, and I searched highland park. There are pictures of the shooter at MAGA rally, wrapping himself in a Trump flag, and apparently his father was a Republican opponent of the incumbent Democrat. The opinion on Twitter is that he is a radicalized Trump supporter. Has anyone else seen this online yet? What do you think? (Reposted query from earlier thread)
Posted by: YES, BUT

I saw those pictures. Although they are subject to interpretation, I could easily interpret them as him mocking Trump.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 04, 2022 10:35 PM (FVME7)

122 I moved my bookstore twice; the first time, several blocks, the second time two doors north. I swore I was going to die in the last store because Hell would freeze over before I moved it one more time. I don't even want to imagine moving it ten or twelve states.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin

Moved a gym 4 times. Everything so was damn heavy.

Posted by: BruceWayne at July 04, 2022 10:36 PM (MGB5H)

123 Ah, it's NPR. Never mind. Nobody is ever responsible or sacked.
Posted by: Archimedes


Kind of like people who work for government agencies.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 04, 2022 10:37 PM (+lVUW)

124 Does Liz Cheney ever say, specifically, why Trump is so dangerous?
(I don't have TV)

Posted by: DB at July 04, 2022 10:38 PM (geLO8)

125 We must ban assault hot dogs.
Don't touch my weiner.
Posted by: jewells45
Are they the ones with the thing going up????
/turns off pron hub...
Posted by: Romeo13
Don't go off half cocked.
Posted by: Tonypete


don't wash it too much, it'll go off in your hand.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (UgAdJ) - at July 04, 2022 10:38 PM (MrZQl)

126 The opinion on Twitter is that he is a radicalized Trump supporter.

*******

He is the very model of a modern MAGA general...

Great ONT Mis Hum. Thanks in particular for the Declaration. IMO the greatest document in American history. Words and principles to aspire to.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 04, 2022 10:39 PM (kXYt5)

127 I moved my bookstore twice; the first time, several blocks, the second time two doors north. I swore I was going to die in the last store because Hell would freeze over before I moved it one more time. I don't even want to imagine moving it ten or twelve states.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- I wasn't particularly fond of the '70s the first time around

In the three of four years I've been going to my podiatrist, he moved his practice twice. Now the building he's in has been sold so he has thrown in the towel. He's about my age so he's just going to retire.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 04, 2022 10:39 PM (FVME7)

128 Does Liz Cheney ever say, specifically, why Trump is so dangerous?

It seems that he's bad. Very, very bad.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 10:40 PM (/NCI4)

129 I'm surprised my across the street neighbors from commifornia hasn't come over to complain yet. They came over once because our air compressor was too loud....🙄🙄

Posted by: lin-duh at July 04, 2022 10:40 PM (UUBmN)

130 Happy Independence Day, glorious Horde!

Posted by: chique l'African ViQueen of Greenland, the Merciless, open to talks with the Great MAGA King at July 04, 2022 10:40 PM (rF64X)

131 47 We must ban assault hot dogs.

Don't touch my weiner.
Posted by: jewells45 at July 04, 2022 10:16 PM (nxdel)

***********

Wiener-Holder 2024!

And Bill and I are sorry to learn of Kamala's upcoming suicide.

*hic* *hic*

Posted by: Hillary! at July 04, 2022 10:40 PM (xxG/v)

132 In the three of four years I've been going to my podiatrist, he moved his practice twice. Now the building he's in has been sold so he has thrown in the towel. He's about my age so he's just going to retire.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

The game is afoot!

Posted by: Tonypete at July 04, 2022 10:40 PM (Msys3)

133 We must ban assault hot dogs.
Don't touch my weiner.
Posted by: jewells45
Are they the ones with the thing going up????
/turns off pron hub...
Posted by: Romeo13
Don't go off half cocked.
Posted by: Tonypete
don't wash it too much, it'll go off in your hand.
Posted by: BifBewalski @ (UgAdJ) - at July 04, 2022 10:38 PM (MrZQl)

It plumps when you **** it.

Posted by: Ballpark at July 04, 2022 10:40 PM (4I/2K)

134 So, they got this 'guy' in custody. DEEP Interrogate the peckerhead, maybe he'll roll over on whomever orchestrated this.
"Cause he looks like he couldn't organize any thing more complicated than a circle jerk.

Posted by: boynsea at July 04, 2022 10:40 PM (cx155)

135 Great ONT Mis Hum. Thanks in particular for the Declaration. IMO the greatest document in American history. Words and principles to aspire to.
Posted by: Muldoon at July 04, 2022 10:39 PM (kXYt5

Seconded. Thanks, MisHum!

Posted by: chique l'African ViQueen of Greenland, the Merciless, open to talks with the Great MAGA King at July 04, 2022 10:41 PM (rF64X)

136 Joey Chestnut demolished hot dogs today and a protester while winning Nathan's Hot Dog contest today.

All on a bum leg too. #Legend

Posted by: Bete at July 04, 2022 10:41 PM (a0KPx)

137 Liz Cheney:
what kind of man knows that a mob is armed and sends the mob to attack the Capitol and further incites that mob when his own vice president is under threat, when the Congress is under threat

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 04, 2022 10:41 PM (i0slg)

138 7 Does Liz Cheney ever say, specifically, why Trump is so dangerous?
(I don't have TV)
Posted by: DB at July 04, 2022 10:38 PM (geLO

No, and CNN never asked her.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 04, 2022 10:41 PM (qH6FZ)

139 Yeah, you fucking ESL* retard. Islamic slavers throughout NE Africa are devoutly religious.

*English as a Senseless Language

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 04, 2022 10:41 PM (IXpV7)

140 Cause he looks like he couldn't organize any thing more complicated than a circle jerk.
Posted by: boynsea at July 04

I think you're underestimating the complexity of a circle jerk.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 04, 2022 10:42 PM (ftFVW)

141 I got Kurt Schlicter's novel, the first of the Turnbull series on audiobook. I didn't like the narrator but the story was fine.

I thought he piled it on thick about the ruinous result of autonomous blue-state socialism ... but changed my mind when I thought about East Germany. Schlicter was stationed in West Germany and maybe was thinking of it.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at July 04, 2022 10:42 PM (ybIRR)

142 Crimo itself sounds like a rap name. At least from the little I hear about it it sounds like they finally got over all having to be "MC" something or something "Ice". Although calling a woman " Thee Stallion" seems to telegraph a major unfamiliarity with horses.

Posted by: azjaeger at July 04, 2022 10:42 PM (3/XaG)

143 I've been going to my podiatrist, he moved his practice twice.

*******

Probably used a toe truck...

Posted by: Muldoon at July 04, 2022 10:42 PM (kXYt5)

144 54 Little pooch is not enjoying the fireworks at all.
Posted by: Duke Lowell


Same with my dog, and it sounds like a full blown war outside. I like them myself, but I can't enjoy them tonight because I have to sit here on the bed with her shoving herself against me.

Posted by: nerdygirl at July 04, 2022 10:42 PM (+lVUW)

145 Any more mass shootings to celebrate the 4th yet ???
-------
Stay out of Chicago!

Posted by: dartist at July 04, 2022 10:42 PM (+ya+t)

146 What do you think? (Reposted query from earlier thread)
Posted by: YES, BUT at July 04, 2022 10:31 PM (DgmAE)

I think you don't own a weed whacker.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2022 10:42 PM (pxgly)

147 Had a really nice cigar earlier today.
I'm going to take a break, get a nice glass of Devil's Brigade bourbon to celebrate men, who risked, and too often, gave, their all.
Happy Independence Day Horde.

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at July 04, 2022 10:43 PM (BbSpR)

148 "He summoned a mob to Washington," Cheney, told fellow conservatives during her 30-minute address. "He knew they were armed on Jan. 6. He knew they were angry. And he directed the violent mob to march on the capitol in order to delay or prevent completing the counting of electoral votes.

He attempted to go there with them. And when the violence was underway he refused to take action to tell the rioters to leave.

Posted by: Ignoramus at July 04, 2022 10:43 PM (i0slg)

149 Does Liz Cheney ever say, specifically, why Trump is so dangerous?
(I don't have TV)
Posted by: DB at July 04, 2022 10:38 PM (geLO

--------------

No, she doesn't. Has the feeling of a woman scorned.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 04, 2022 10:43 PM (u73oe)

150 140 Liz Cheney:
what kind of man knows that a mob is armed and sends the mob to attack the Capitol and further incites that mob when his own vice president is under threat, when the Congress is under threat
Posted by: Ignoramus at July 04, 2022 10:41 PM (i0slg)

One who knows the character of those in Congress and the VP?

Posted by: Bete at July 04, 2022 10:44 PM (a0KPx)

151 Has the feeling of a woman scorned.

She'd better get accustomed to it.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 10:44 PM (/NCI4)

152

I made a deposit at my Credit Union,
and walking-out, noticed my deposit ($250)
was credited Twice, so I turn around to tell
them.
Read a great news story: an elderly woman,
Vermont or New Hampshire as I remember,
found a Brink's money-bag on the road.
Authorities were astonished that she
returned it, she said:

What would I do with it!?

Posted by: zigzag at July 04, 2022 10:44 PM (JcSDo)

153 The Bible discusses slavery if not with approval at least without condemnation.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 04, 2022 10:44 PM (FVME7)

154 They came over once because our air compressor was too loud....
Posted by: lin-duh

asshoe neighbor walks up
bif: *racks slide on 1911*
bif: *glares, pharts, spits*
bif: whachuwon?
neighbor: um, your air compressor is kinda loud
bif: wait till i i stick it up your ass and we'll see if you can still hear it

lin-duh, you're probably too nice. may I be of service?

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (UgAdJ) - at July 04, 2022 10:44 PM (MrZQl)

155 These comments really went sideways with the hot dog thing.

Sailors excuse: "It's my soap, and it's my dick.
I'll wash it as fast as I want".

I'll show myself out.

Posted by: boynsea at July 04, 2022 10:45 PM (cx155)

156 Mother Freedom...


https://tinyurl.com/2p869zey

Posted by: davidt at July 04, 2022 10:45 PM (oTZbj)

157 148. Philly is working on it. 2 police officers shot at the Welcome America. At least one building on lockdown.

Posted by: Lola at July 04, 2022 10:46 PM (NIYa7)

158 Read a great news story: an elderly woman,
Vermont or New Hampshire

-------

Mary Clogginstein

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at July 04, 2022 10:46 PM (IXpV7)

159 Sailors excuse: "It's my soap, and it's my dick.
I'll wash it as fast as I want".


Captain: Okay, but not in the mess hall.

Posted by: Archimedes at July 04, 2022 10:47 PM (/NCI4)

160 If you don't believe in God can you believe in the constitution?
Posted by: jewells45 at July 04, 2022 10:05 PM (nxdel)

You can, but whether your belief is entirely logical is another matter. I don't see how morality sans God holds water.

Posted by: chique l'African ViQueen of Greenland, the Merciless, open to talks with the Great MAGA King at July 04, 2022 10:47 PM (rF64X)

161 Can you believe in god and believe in slavery? apparently so.
Posted by: raimondo at July 04, 2022 10:23 PM (NMDj9

You don't believe in god so how would you know.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 04, 2022 10:47 PM (0SIeT)

162 Happy Independence Day everyone! Just got back from a friend's house; we had grilled meats by the pool, drank some beer, and shot fireworks off in the street outside, local ordinances be damned. Couldn't have been better.

Posted by: Dr. T at July 04, 2022 10:47 PM (Vgw1E)

163 Little pooch is not enjoying the fireworks at all.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

*******

No fireworks in my extreme rural location, but thanks to a nice evening thunderstorm my dog and I got to relive the usual July 4 ritual. By which I mean having a 70-pound baby sitting in my lap whimpering with each rumble of thunder.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 04, 2022 10:47 PM (kXYt5)

164 Wow, Liz Cheney stuffed at least five lies into that twatter twat.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 04, 2022 10:49 PM (llON8)

165 Bottom line with Liz is that she and her colleagues were scared shitless and she's pissed at Trump and us rubes for making her feel that way. This is her revenge.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 04, 2022 10:50 PM (qH6FZ)

166 No fireworks in my extreme rural location, but thanks to a nice evening thunderstorm my dog and I got to relive the usual July 4 ritual. By which I mean having a 70-pound baby sitting in my lap whimpering with each rumble of thunder.
Posted by: Muldoon at July 04, 2022 10:47 PM (kXYt5)

I wonder why some dogs get so spooked by thunder? Do wolves get spooked?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2022 10:50 PM (pxgly)

167
Liz Cheney: Here! Grab it!

Trump: No thanks.

Liz Cheney: I won't be ignored!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 04, 2022 10:50 PM (u73oe)

168 Read a great news story: an elderly woman,
Vermont or New Hampshire as I remember,
found a Brink's money-bag on the road.
Authorities were astonished that she
returned it, she said:

What would I do with it!?
Posted by: zigzag

Spend it on male strippers, lottery tickets and coke and then waste the rest.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 04, 2022 10:50 PM (Msys3)

169

Cheney will be shown the door in just over a month, IIRC...

Posted by: Zettai at July 04, 2022 10:51 PM (KuYRU)

170 Wow, Liz Cheney stuffed at least five lies into that twatter twat.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 04, 2022 10:49 PM (llON

She gets lots of stuffing practice at the Golden Corral.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2022 10:51 PM (pxgly)

171 Spend it on male strippers, lottery tickets and coke and then waste the rest.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 04

Will the strippers be running through the sprinklers on her lawn? I'm guessing she might go for that.

Posted by: She Hobbit at July 04, 2022 10:51 PM (ftFVW)

172 Can you believe in god and believe in slavery? apparently so.
Posted by: raimondo at July 04, 2022 10:23 PM (NMDj9


Sure can. Next question.

Posted by: Dr. T at July 04, 2022 10:52 PM (Vgw1E)

173 I almost went to the bigger town near me for their show but I probably would have fallen asleep since I spent a little too much time in the sun today. I can still hear thumping from some of the nearby shows. Kitty is not amused and has curled up next to my foot.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at July 04, 2022 10:52 PM (llON8)

174 76 Can you believe in god and believe in slavery? apparently so.
Posted by: raimondo at July 04, 2022 10:23 PM (NMDj9)

Democrats don't believe in God.

Posted by: Clutch at July 04, 2022 10:52 PM (9VhJu)

175 Archimedes at 158: good one!

Posted by: boynsea at July 04, 2022 10:52 PM (cx155)

176 170
Liz Cheney: Here! Grab it!

Trump: No thanks.

Liz Cheney: I won't be ignored!
Posted by: Duke Lowell



She is a bit psychotic.

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 04, 2022 10:52 PM (sAmhv)

177 I wonder why some dogs get so spooked by thunder? Do wolves get spooked?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

********

I always assumed it was highly sensitive hearing that actually is somewhat painful to some dogs. Although maybe it reminds him of Master's voice when angry. But that doesn't explain why he would come to hang out with me when iit happens.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 04, 2022 10:53 PM (kXYt5)

178 174 Spend it on male strippers, lottery tickets and coke and then waste the rest.
Posted by: Tonypete at July 04

Will the strippers be running through the sprinklers on her lawn? I'm guessing she might go for that.
Posted by: She Hobbit at July 04, 2022 10:51 PM (ftFVW)

Why not a Slip N Slide?

Posted by: Hasbro Toy Co. at July 04, 2022 10:53 PM (aA3+G)

179 Those guys in the jeep remind me of a pic I have of my dad and his buddy in Europe sitting on a 2 1/2 ton who ended up marrying sisters. Drafted for the duration.

Posted by: dartist at July 04, 2022 10:54 PM (+ya+t)

180 Correction: archimedes at 162

Posted by: boynsea at July 04, 2022 10:54 PM (cx155)

181 Cheney will be shown the door in just over a month, IIRC...
Posted by: Zettai at July 04, 2022 10:51 PM (KuYRU)

What do you think is next for her, MSNBC, CNN, or some well paying board of some outfit? In any case, I hope she suffers a humiliating defeat.

Posted by: chique l'African ViQueen of Greenland, the Merciless, open to talks with the Great MAGA King at July 04, 2022 10:54 PM (rF64X)

182 Infant of your house?
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 04, 2022 10:27 PM (aA3+G)
===

Beautiful recall.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at July 04, 2022 10:54 PM (EZebt)

183 The government is corrupt and full of crooks from top to bottom. Trump was the outsider messing up all the crooked schemes and scams.


Liz Cheney is a Deep State Princess, and Trump is their enemy.

Posted by: davidt at July 04, 2022 10:55 PM (oTZbj)

184 Little pooch is not enjoying the fireworks at all.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
*******
No fireworks in my extreme rural location, but thanks to a nice evening thunderstorm my dog and I got to relive the usual July 4 ritual. By which I mean having a 70-pound baby sitting in my lap whimpering with each rumble of thunder.
Posted by: Muldoon

cats are wierd. MegaRoy watched the fireworks we had lit in the back yard (no infant for us) from the deep dark safety beneath Junior-ette's bed. soon as the food momma (Smash) came in his big grey ass was out 'protecting the food source' from imminent danger. now he's patrolling and growling at the noise. probably planning a blackout shadow ambush of my drunken ass when i slip into bed later. sneaky bastard, swear he giggles when he jump scares me.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (UgAdJ) - at July 04, 2022 10:55 PM (MrZQl)

185 My dad was in the Air Corp/Force in India. Among his pictures was one of him on a Harley motorcycle with his cap on backwards. He raced bikes after the war. Became or already was a very patriotic American.

Great ONT, Mis Hum!

Posted by: LRob in TX at July 04, 2022 10:57 PM (KTPXo)

186 Thank you, MisHum, for a beautiful Independence Day ONT.

Posted by: Lola at July 04, 2022 10:57 PM (NIYa7)

187
Back when my son was a teener
He used lots of soap on his wiener
Is he still in the shower?
He's been in there an hour
I don't think it could get any cleaner!

Posted by: Muldoon at July 04, 2022 10:57 PM (kXYt5)

188 Fireworks seem to spook rats. Jake killed a little one tonight.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at July 04, 2022 10:58 PM (YynYJ)

189 I don't see how morality sans God holds water.
Posted by: chique l'African ViQueen of Greenland, the Merciless, open to talks with the Great MAGA King

I would posit that a person guided by an ethical framework could accept, live, and thrive under the Constitution, but without God in the background, such a person would have no qualms about violating those precepts for personal gain!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 04, 2022 10:58 PM (hOUT3)

190 Amen my Brother.

Posted by: Muad'dib at July 04, 2022 10:58 PM (eyOr9)

191 I assume there's a Cheney Foundation that Liz will head after she's dis-elected. They all have foundations.


She'll do media appearances for some foundation PR and side money.

Posted by: davidt at July 04, 2022 11:00 PM (oTZbj)

192 I see no point to the concept of morality without God either. I thar were the case , then existentialism or nietscheism is what you're stuck with.

Posted by: Tom Servo at July 04, 2022 11:00 PM (r46W7)

193 For depriving us in many cases, of the benefits of Trial by Jury

Tell us about it.

Posted by: Jan 6 prisoners facing justice at the hands of the DC jury pool, some day, maybe at July 04, 2022 11:00 PM (kOpft)

194 A Muldoon sighting and limerick. Nice.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 04, 2022 11:00 PM (qH6FZ)

195 But that doesn't explain why he would come to hang out with me when iit happens.
Posted by: Muldoon

He sees you as a safe haven in a time of trouble for him!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 04, 2022 11:00 PM (hOUT3)

196 Shooting on the Parkway. Glad I spent the Fourth elsewhere.

Bad things happen in Philadelphia.

Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 04, 2022 11:01 PM (e5TC/)

197 Spend it on male strippers, lottery tickets and coke and then waste the rest.

Posted by: Tonypete at July 04, 2022 10:50 PM (Msys3)


You forgot fast cars. Also, possibly, bourbon.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 04, 2022 11:01 PM (F0YaR)

198 For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:

Tell us about that.

Posted by: Every US citizen with an income at July 04, 2022 11:01 PM (kOpft)

199 194 I assume there's a Cheney Foundation that Liz will head after she's dis-elected. They all have foundations.


She'll do media appearances for some foundation PR and side money.
Posted by: davidt at July 04, 2022 11:00 PM (oTZbj)

We'll have gun safety classes as well.

Posted by: Dick Cheney, Liz's sperm person at July 04, 2022 11:02 PM (aA3+G)

200 I see Liz a getting seat on some defense contractor board. A paycheck without work as her reward for public service.

Posted by: lowandslow at July 04, 2022 11:02 PM (qH6FZ)

201 'night

https://youtu.be/AkDPvuidzLg

Posted by: Puddleglum at July 04, 2022 11:03 PM (sAmhv)

202 Bad things happen in Philadelphia.
Posted by: BlackOrchid at July 04, 2022 11:01 PM (e5TC/

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No shit!

Posted by: King George at July 04, 2022 11:03 PM (u73oe)

203 I've only recently learnt that Jefferson was but 33 years of age when he penned the Declaration...

Posted by: Zettai at July 04, 2022 10:25 PM (ll29Y)

A lot of the signers were younger that the renderings portrayed them as being..

Posted by: Javems at July 04, 2022 11:03 PM (AmoqO)

204 off Cheney sock.

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 04, 2022 11:03 PM (aA3+G)

205 He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages, whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.

Word.

Posted by: Anyone who had to live through "peaceful protests" at July 04, 2022 11:03 PM (kOpft)

206 Well anyway. A wonderful 4th to all the very fine folk here...
I'm off to the AoS lounge (I think) for one of the probably most awesome cocktails that man has ever known.

Off to lurking now....

Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 04, 2022 11:03 PM (fSS9K)

207 Florida governors long have tried enticing Northeastern businesses to the Sunshine State's warmer, income tax-free clime. This week, Connecticut's governor, Ned Lamont, exacted his revenge in this open letter to Florida business owners, using Florida's political climate as an incentive.

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*snort*

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 04, 2022 11:03 PM (XG2Fi)

208 Vdoggeh ignores fireworks, but other doggeh's barking and howling he ferls bound to respind to. It's only polite

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 11:03 PM (rs4lA)

209 BifBewalski,
I'm gonna send them your way next time they have a complaint!😉🤗

Posted by: lin-duh at July 04, 2022 11:03 PM (UUBmN)

210 124 I was just on Twitter, and I searched highland park. There are pictures of the shooter at MAGA rally, wrapping himself in a Trump flag, and apparently his father was a Republican opponent of the incumbent Democrat. The opinion on Twitter is that he is a radicalized Trump supporter. Has anyone else seen this online yet? What do you think? (Reposted query from earlier thread)
Posted by: YES, BUT

I saw those pictures. Although they are subject to interpretation, I could easily interpret them as him mocking Trump.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Now the Summer of Our Discontent at July 04, 2022 10:35 PM

This is one of those very rare instances where they were able to take the mass shooter alive. I will be very curious to see whether the perp exhibits anything close to sanity in his court appearances. I would expect that he would probably be arraigned tomorrow?

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 04, 2022 11:04 PM (rbKZ6)

211 206 Well anyway. A wonderful 4th to all the very fine folk here...
I'm off to the AoS lounge (I think) for one of the probably most awesome cocktails that man has ever known.

Off to lurking now....
Posted by: COMountainMarie at July 04, 2022 11:03 PM (fSS9K)

Thanks for stopping bye and happy lurking............

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at July 04, 2022 11:04 PM (aA3+G)

212 Did I hear the Creamo dud may have had an accomplice?

Posted by: BignJames at July 04, 2022 11:05 PM (AwYPR)

213 The short version?

Hey, King George, get fucked.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at July 04, 2022 11:05 PM (LOVUx)

214 200 I see Liz a getting seat on some defense contractor board. A paycheck without work as her reward for public service.
Posted by: lowandslow at July 04, 2022 11:02 PM

Halliburton!!

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 04, 2022 11:06 PM (rbKZ6)

215 210 did he have tats in the pic?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 11:06 PM (/jQbM)

216 Liz Cheney's "Foundation" looks to be about half a cubic yard of lumpy, poorly mixed Quick Crete stuffed into a six-ply steel belted Playtex Girdle with matching Bra and Straitjacket.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 04, 2022 11:06 PM (tkOps)

217 212 Did I hear the Creamo dud may have had an accomplice?
Posted by: BignJames at July 04, 2022 11:05 PM (AwYPR)

What he should NOT have is an ability to breathe.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at July 04, 2022 11:06 PM (LOVUx)

218 I would expect that he would probably be arraigned tomorrow?
Posted by: Moonbeam at July 04, 2022 11:04 PM (rbKZ6)

Unless the guards go on break right when the surveillance cameras just happen to malfunction unexpectedly!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 04, 2022 11:07 PM (hOUT3)

219 Did I hear the Creamo dud may have had an accomplice?
Posted by: BignJames

yeah, it was the eff bee eye

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (UgAdJ) - at July 04, 2022 11:07 PM (MrZQl)

220 192 I would posit that a person guided by an ethical framework could accept, live, and thrive under the Constitution, but without God in the background, such a person would have no qualms about violating those precepts for personal gain!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 04, 2022 10:58 PM (hOUT3)


"An eye for an eye, a kiss for a kiss."

A personal morality and code of honor can be almost entirely based on reciprocity and the notion that if you piss others off enough, they will pay it back and often with interest. America's founders understood that while the government footprint should be minimized, it did still need to play referee between the citizens when they have disagreements.

Also, dueling. We really need to bring that back.

Posted by: CppThis at July 04, 2022 11:07 PM (UewuT)

221 So, this little town has declared no fireworks this 4th, claiming supply chain issues and financial stress. Usually, it's pretty good show considering the town's size. Might have to reconsider the state of our local politics. Lord know they collect enough taxes, and it's not like they don't have a planning committee.

At least the citizens are stepping up with the somewhat clandestine backyard fireworks. Frowned upon, but not rigorously enforced. Have not heard any 1911s yet.

Disappointing that we're the only ones in the cul-de-sac with a flag out.

Posted by: boynsea at July 04, 2022 11:08 PM (cx155)

222 I don't know if anyone has mentioned it yet, but, it appears the Highland Park shooter was a "known wolf." At least, according to WGN.

However, WGN is also claiming the shooter had some sort of "far right wing symbol" in his social media posts.

Grain of salt and all that.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 04, 2022 11:08 PM (5pTK/)

223 I assume there's a Cheney Foundation that Liz will head after she's dis-elected. They all have foundations.

Posted by: davidt at July 04, 2022 11:00 PM (oTZbj)

Seen her face lately? She has a lot of foundation.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 04, 2022 11:09 PM (7bRMQ)

224 6 If you don't believe in God can you believe in the constitution?

Posted by: jewells45 at July 04, 2022 10:05 PM (nxdel)

Absolutely, until this last "election." Not sure how effective a shredded one is.

Posted by: Bonnie Blue the ungrateful colonial at July 04, 2022 11:10 PM (gao0c)

225 Howdy, y'all!

Just got back from broadcasting from the fireworks display at the City Park.

It's always a good time to meet people from around town and to enjoy being blessed to be born in the greatest nation ever.

Hope your Independence Day was a good one.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 04, 2022 11:11 PM (aommx)

226 Disappointing that we're the only ones in the cul-de-sac with a flag out.
Posted by: boynsea at July 04, 2022 11:08 PM (cx155)

We were in the metropolis of Willow, AK this morning, to see the parade, in which you park your vehicle with flags flying, walk in the parade, and then walk back while watching the rest of it. Everyone came. The fire trucks were parked out front of the fire house, with flags and lights flashing. There was even a float on somebody's flatbed trailer. And some old jeep looking thing with 6 wheels and a bunch of already inebriated folk partying.

No fireworks, because of the lack of rain for the past two months, but lots of noise and nonsense. Just right, I'd say.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at July 04, 2022 11:11 PM (LOVUx)

227 I'm out.

Got a delivery to make tomorrow.

Happy Independence Day. Stay free. Keep the faith.

Night!

Posted by: Robert at July 04, 2022 11:12 PM (Pl5Zs)

228 After Uvalde, I'm convinced that the local LEOs are in on it. Highland Park cops ain't getting this guy to "flip".

Posted by: Midnight Rambler at July 04, 2022 11:12 PM (8E8Am)

229 The large red rose tattoo on his neck seems to be pretty specific to certain political viewpoints.

Posted by: rww at July 04, 2022 11:12 PM (PUuPM)

230 In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.

But enough about Joe Biden......

Happy Fourth of July!

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornia at July 04, 2022 11:13 PM (7SwmH)

231 Sunk New Dawn at #216: You, Sir, never fail to crack me up with your wit and prose!

Posted by: boynsea at July 04, 2022 11:13 PM (cx155)

232 The large red rose tattoo on his neck seems to be pretty specific to certain political viewpoints.

Posted by: rww at July 04, 2022 11:12 PM (PUuPM)

It's a Trump rose!!!!!!

Posted by: MSM at July 04, 2022 11:13 PM (7bRMQ)

233 Leave that State where you're making money, to take a bone-deep haircut for the privilege of virtue signalling. It's especially enticing, given the wonderful weather, the charming accents, and the adipose, infanticidal slatterns with Troll-doll hair for whom you'd sacrifice those profits.

Posted by: Connecticut at July 04, 2022 11:13 PM (IXpV7)

234 >>I always assumed it was highly sensitive hearing that actually is somewhat painful to some dogs.

Good assumption. Dogs hearing is much more sensitive than humans by orders of magnitude. And they are basically children when it comes to understanding why scary noises happen.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2022 11:13 PM (ZLI7S)

235 So the only similarity between this ass and the rest of the known wolf shooters is the size of his tiny little manhood, yes? Oh, and that paycheck from the FBI. Just that. And pudding-brain announcing he's gonna grab everyone's guns. Just that.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at July 04, 2022 11:14 PM (LOVUx)

236 229 The large red rose tattoo on his neck seems to be pretty specific to certain political viewpoints.
Posted by: rww at July 04, 2022 11:12 PM (PUuPM)

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Lancastrians?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 04, 2022 11:14 PM (XG2Fi)

237 However, WGN is also claiming the shooter had some sort of "far right wing symbol" in his social media posts.

Grain of salt and all that.
Posted by: blake - semi

The four sided logo is also the logo of Suomen Sisu, a Finnish rightwing Nationalist group.
I highly doubt he's a member

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 11:14 PM (/jQbM)

238 By which I mean having a 70-pound baby sitting in my lap whimpering with each rumble of thunder.
Posted by: Muldoon

My old Rusty dog didn't know where he wanted to be in a thunderstorm but he knew it wasn't where he was. Came home one day and found a full grown golden in the bathroom sink.

Posted by: Javems at July 04, 2022 11:14 PM (AmoqO)

239 No fireworks, because of the lack of rain for the past two months, but lots of noise and nonsense. Just right, I'd say.

This town has a municipal display over the lake in the park. No fireworks outside of that because we're kind of in a forest and don't want to burn the town down.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 04, 2022 11:14 PM (Bd6X8)

240 ... half a cubic yard of lumpy, poorly mixed Quick Crete stuffed into a six-ply steel belted Playtex Girdle

*******

Jim SND bringing the poetry tonight!!

Posted by: Muldoon at July 04, 2022 11:14 PM (kXYt5)

241 Test

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 04, 2022 11:15 PM (0SIeT)

242 Good assumption. Dogs hearing is much more sensitive than humans by orders of magnitude. And they are basically children when it comes to understanding why scary noises happen.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2022 11:13 PM (ZLI7S)

We know one thing for sure, a dog's hearing is so much better than a husband's!

Posted by: Nag at July 04, 2022 11:15 PM (7bRMQ)

243 The large red rose tattoo on his neck seems to be pretty specific to certain political viewpoints.
Posted by: rww at July 04, 2022 11:12 PM (PUuPM)


F'ing House of Lancaster, YORK WILL PREVAIL!!

Posted by: Kindltot at July 04, 2022 11:15 PM (xhaym)

244 Connecticut is a great place to do business! We offer crippling taxes, an insanely high cost of living, terrible schools, and New England winter weather! And we have great pizza!

Posted by: Ned LaMont at July 04, 2022 11:15 PM (8E8Am)

245 I get paid handsomely. But, not enough to take the money and run. What about you?

I'd just give it back. Boring, I know.

I've always liked this Nero Wolfe quote:

"If it is true, as has been said, that every man has his price, you couldn't hand me mine in currency."

Posted by: Splunge at July 04, 2022 11:16 PM (2hil/)

246 The four sided logo is also the logo of Suomen Sisu, a Finnish rightwing Nationalist group.
I highly doubt he's a member
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 11:14 PM (/jQbM)
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I also doubt he actually knows what the symbol means and just put it up because he thought it was cool.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 04, 2022 11:16 PM (5pTK/)

247 We know one thing for sure, a dog's hearing is so much better than a husband's!

Which must mean that cats are basically deaf.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 04, 2022 11:16 PM (Bd6X8)

248 Test
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 04, 2022 11:15 PM (0SIeT)

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Fail, no pronoun in your answer!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 04, 2022 11:16 PM (5pTK/)

249 Came home one day and found a full grown golden in the bathroom sink.
Posted by: Javems

Awww

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 11:17 PM (/jQbM)

250 Which must mean that cats are basically deaf.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 04, 2022 11:16 PM (Bd6X

We just ignore you.

Posted by: Cats at July 04, 2022 11:17 PM (7bRMQ)

251 >>Which must mean that cats are basically deaf.

No, cats hear you. They are just assholes.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2022 11:18 PM (ZLI7S)

252 tcn in AK at 226: Yes, no rain here either, this place is dryer than a popcorn fart, as my Dad was fond of saying. But that is no excuse here, the desert is not prone to burn, unless the aficionados screw up and drop one into the middle of town.

That's what the backyard experts are for!

Posted by: boynsea at July 04, 2022 11:18 PM (cx155)

253 212 Did I hear the Creamo dud may have had an accomplice?
Posted by: BignJames at July 04, 2022 11:05 PM (AwYPR)


The most common fake news, when there is a mass shooting, is that there were multiple people involved. Occasionally it's true, or a little true. Mostly, it's not.

Posted by: Splunge at July 04, 2022 11:18 PM (2hil/)

254

Highland Park shooter exactly one year ago:


https://is.gd/crimo_last_july_4

Posted by: Zettai at July 04, 2022 11:18 PM (e/SBI)

255 The large red rose tattoo on his neck seems to be pretty specific to certain political viewpoints.
Posted by: rww at July 04, 2022 11:12 PM (PUuPM)

F'ing House of Lancaster, YORK WILL PREVAIL!!
Posted by: Kindltot

The rose of the Beast in Beauty & the Beast!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 11:18 PM (/jQbM)

256 Oh, and don't forget our well-maintained highway system and our courteous, polite, skillful drivers! You know how those old people in Florida drive, amirite?

Posted by: Ned LaMont at July 04, 2022 11:19 PM (8E8Am)

257 >>We just ignore you.
Posted by: Cats

See?

Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2022 11:19 PM (ZLI7S)

258 Today is a special day, because we celebrate the independence of our great nation.

But it was also kind of cool that eating champion Joey Chestnut got a vegan protester in a headlock, without breaking stride in his eating.

Posted by: Splunge at July 04, 2022 11:20 PM (2hil/)

259 212 Did I hear the Creamo dud may have had an accomplice?
Posted by: BignJames at July 04, 2022 11:05 PM (AwYPR)

The most common fake news, when there is a mass shooting, is that there were multiple people involved. Occasionally it's true, or a little true. Mostly, it's not.
Posted by: Splunge at July 04, 2022 11:18 PM (2hil/)

Did they check out the grassy knoll?

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 04, 2022 11:20 PM (4I/2K)

260 Oh, and don't forget our well-maintained highway system and our courteous, polite, skillful drivers! You know how those old people in Florida drive, amirite?
Posted by: Ned LaMont at July 04, 2022 11:19 PM (8E8Am)
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FL isn't bad, been there a few times. It isn't the drivers, it's the toll roads that are the problem.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 04, 2022 11:20 PM (5pTK/)

261 Today is a special day, because we celebrate the independence of our great nation.

But it was also kind of cool that eating champion Joey Chestnut got a vegan protester in a headlock, without breaking stride in his eating.
Posted by: Splunge at July 04, 2022 11:20 PM (2hil/)

He's the Nolan Ryan of competitive hot dog eaters.

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 04, 2022 11:21 PM (4I/2K)

262 The four sided logo is also the logo of Suomen Sisu, a Finnish rightwing Nationalist group.
I highly doubt he's a member

Are they actually right wing, or are they Finland's version of Nazis?

Posted by: Methos at July 04, 2022 11:21 PM (kOpft)

263 So, I picked up Robert the Cat (TM) and held him as I rubbed his tummy.

He was not happy, and when I put him down, he immediately turned into a revolving knife machine on high speed. He continued to do this for a few minutes, but then decided "being petted" was worth calming down.

You may well ask, "Why do you rub his tummy when he doesn't like it?"

Because he should like it. All cats like it. He's just denying the inevitable. Also, I like rubbing cat tummies. Don't judge me.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at July 04, 2022 11:21 PM (m0zqP)

264 62 “I think there’s no question, I mean, a man as dangerous as Donald Trump can absolutely never be anywhere near the Oval Office ever again." Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY)

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 04, 2022 10:19 PM (cupoy)

I used to think this was absurd hate but on further reflection - I see where she is coming from.

(Greatest) President (ever) Trump (PBUH) was a menace to their grifting schemes and their criminality and con jobs. Of course they couldn't afford four more years of him.

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornia at July 04, 2022 11:22 PM (7SwmH)

265 Cheney's a Deep State Princess but she was tough on her sister in the past, not easily forgiven in the LGBTQ community, and she has five kids of her own to launch into adulthood.

Posted by: Lola at July 04, 2022 11:23 PM (NIYa7)

266
https://is.gd/crimo_last_july_4

Posted by: Zettai

He could have been there scouting for mischief opportunities

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 11:23 PM (/jQbM)

267 Posted by: Zettai at July 04, 2022 11:18 PM (e/SBI)

Good find

Posted by: Clutch at July 04, 2022 11:23 PM (9VhJu)

268 Red Rose Speedway

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 04, 2022 11:24 PM (63Dwl)

269 Cheney's a Deep State Princess but she was tough on her sister in the past, not easily forgiven in the LGBTQ community, and she has five kids of her own to launch into adulthood.

Posted by: Lola at July 04, 2022 11:23 PM (NIYa7)

Don't you mean, grifthood?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 04, 2022 11:24 PM (7bRMQ)

270 So Minions made more in one weekend than Lightyear has made in 3 weeks.

Disney stockholders are being well served.

Posted by: Bete at July 04, 2022 11:24 PM (a0KPx)

271 Why is a good piece of luggage so expensive???

Posted by: lin-duh at July 04, 2022 11:25 PM (UUBmN)

272 (Greatest) President (ever) Trump (PBUH) was a menace to their grifting schemes and their criminality and con jobs. Of course they couldn't afford four more years of him.
Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornia at July 04, 2022 11:22 PM (7SwmH)
---------

Yeah, PDT showed it was actually possible to accomplish something, which most politicians avoid like the plague.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 04, 2022 11:25 PM (5pTK/)

273 49 Name *one* politician alive today that you would believe actually meant it when he signed that document!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 04, 2022 10:17 PM (hOUT3)

President Trump

Posted by: Flyover at July 04, 2022 11:25 PM (Rbu5d)

274 ..He's the Nolan Ryan of competitive hot dog eaters.
Posted by: Count de Monet at July 04, 2022 11:21 PM (4I/2K)


Nolan Ryan *does* own a brand (his own name, of course) of Premium Steaks, Roasts and other cuts. They're sold in the Kroger stores in the Houston area.

Mr. Ryan needs to produce a Limited Edition of All Beef Franks, in honor of Joey Chestnut. Maybe get Mr. Chestnut signed up in an endorsement deal of some kind.

"The Headlock Kings" branded 'dawgs. With both famous scenes on the label. Sign me up, I'll buy two packages, now!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 04, 2022 11:25 PM (tkOps)

275
FL isn't bad, been there a few times. It isn't the drivers, it's the toll roads that are the problem.

-----

We in Connecticut can offer you a daily commute on the Merritt Parkway, real E-ticket attraction! Who needs to pay to go to a theme park?

Posted by: Ned LaMont at July 04, 2022 11:26 PM (8E8Am)

276 Why is a good piece of luggage so expensive???

Posted by: lin-duh at July 04, 2022 11:25 PM (UUBmN)

Paper? or Plastic?

Posted by: Bag Lady at July 04, 2022 11:26 PM (7bRMQ)

277 He could have been there scouting for mischief opportunities

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 11:23 PM



Yeah... Rather hard to make any assumptions based on only on that clip...

Posted by: Zettai at July 04, 2022 11:26 PM (e/SBI)

278 "Complete the sequence, Mr. President..."

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 04, 2022 11:27 PM (vuisn)

279 ..Why is a good piece of luggage so expensive???
Posted by: lin-duh at July 04, 2022 11:25 PM (UUBmN)


It's the Gorilla's Union at the American Tourister factory. They swing a mean deal.

But you'll go ape over their luggage!


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 04, 2022 11:27 PM (tkOps)

280 "Complete the sequence, Mr. President..."

Posted by: Dr. Varno at July 04, 2022 11:27 PM (vuisn)

Code zero-zero-zero-destruct-zero.

Posted by: Capt James T Kirk at July 04, 2022 11:28 PM (7bRMQ)

281 62 “I think there’s no question, I mean, a man as dangerous as Donald Trump can absolutely never be anywhere near the Oval Office ever again." Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY)...
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at July 04, 2022 10:19 PM

It's just so funny to me that this is exactly what Democrats and the loony left said about her father and GWB!

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 04, 2022 11:28 PM (rbKZ6)

282 >>Name *one* politician alive today that you would believe actually meant it when he signed that document!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 04, 2022 10:17 PM (hOUT3)

>President Trump


yep

Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2022 11:29 PM (ZLI7S)

283 Are they actually right wing, or are they Finland's version of Nazis?
Posted by: Methos

Dunno. I only have wiki to go on, and you know how reliable they are.
They've been accused of being Nazi by a newspaper, and they complained, snd the newspaper published their complaint.
They posted that Muhammad cartoon back in 2006
They're anti EU I think

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 11:29 PM (/jQbM)

284 Good find

Posted by: Clutch at July 04, 2022 11:23 PM



I'm waiting to see what 4chan uncovers...

Posted by: Zettai at July 04, 2022 11:32 PM (e/SBI)

285 260- FL isn't bad, been there a few times. It isn't the drivers, it's the toll roads that are the problem.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at July 04, 2022 11:20 PM

Ehh- you must never have gotten stuck behind drivers on their way to the early bird special buffets. Now that's a real problem!

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 04, 2022 11:32 PM (rbKZ6)

286 "The Headlock Kings" branded 'dawgs. With both famous scenes on the label. Sign me up, I'll buy two packages, now!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Take my money!

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 04, 2022 11:33 PM (4I/2K)

287 Dunno. I only have wiki to go on, and you know how reliable they are.
They've been accused of being Nazi by a newspaper, and they complained, snd the newspaper published their complaint.
They posted that Muhammad cartoon back in 2006
They're anti EU I think
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 11:29 PM (/jQbM)

If they are anti-muslim, they aren't good nazis.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2022 11:34 PM (m+mAo)

288 It's just so funny to me that this is exactly what Democrats and the loony left said about her father and GWB!

It was. She's a grifter extraordinaire.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at July 04, 2022 11:34 PM (Xrfse)

289 273 49 Name *one* politician alive today that you would believe actually meant it when he signed that document!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 04, 2022 10:17 PM (hOUT3)

President Trump
Posted by: Flyover


I agree, and he's the only one I could think of as well!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ every book has been rewritten ~ at July 04, 2022 11:35 PM (hOUT3)

290 One tummy rub, cool, 2 tummy rubs, ok, whatever, 3 tummy rubs YOU WILL DIE!

Posted by: gourmand du jour at July 04, 2022 11:35 PM (jTmQV)

291 Modern signers of the Declaration of Independence:
President Trump
Justice Thomas
Mike Lindell

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 04, 2022 11:36 PM (/jQbM)

292
FL isn't bad, been there a few times. It isn't the drivers, it's the toll roads that are the problem.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing


Yes, come to Indiana for the Roundabouts.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 04, 2022 11:36 PM (63Dwl)

293 273 49 Name *one* politician alive today that you would believe actually meant it when he signed that document!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 04, 2022 10:17 PM (hOUT3)

President Trump
Posted by: Flyover at July 04, 2022 11:25 PM (Rbu5d)

Maybe DeSantis??

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in Kalifornia at July 04, 2022 11:37 PM (7SwmH)

294 I want people held to account. Trump is the only one vindictive enough to do it.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at July 04, 2022 11:37 PM (u73oe)

295 If you don't believe in God can you believe in the constitution?
Posted by: jewells45

Yes

Posted by: SFGoth at July 04, 2022 11:37 PM (KAi1n)

296 If that poor confuzzled Highland Park shooter had exercised a little more self control, he could have become an Admiral when he grew up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2022 11:39 PM (m+mAo)

297 Laws of Nature and Nature's God
Supreme Judge
Divine Providence.

If I recall, Larry Arn noted that these three references to God in the Declaration mirrored, or foreshadowed, the legislative, judicial, and executive structure of the Constitution.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 04, 2022 11:41 PM (ufFY8)

298 Holiday Boating ONT Compliance Pics

https://twitter.com/kbdabear/media

*scroll down

Posted by: kbdabear at July 04, 2022 11:42 PM (qAR6u)

299 >>Why is a good piece of luggage so expensive???

I've travelled a lot on business throughout my career. A lot a lot.

Cheap luggage will not last long with the beating it takes.

Now tell me why women's shoes cost so much. I've bought cars for less.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2022 11:42 PM (ZLI7S)

300 Thanks for the entertainment, folks. Later

Posted by: boynsea at July 04, 2022 11:43 PM (cx155)

301 Name *one* politician alive today that you would believe actually meant it when he signed that document!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at July 04, 2022 10:17 PM (hOUT3)



Rand Paul?

Pat Buchanan?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 04, 2022 11:43 PM (LVPjk)

302 291
Thomas and Lindell are not politicians, but I agree they would mean what they signed.
293
De Santis IS a politician, and I believe he would mean what he signed.

So out of a nation of 350 million plus, four names...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ every book has been rewritten ~ at July 04, 2022 11:43 PM (hOUT3)

303 Sarah Palin would sign and mean it.

Trump will be here next Saturday. We will be dipnetting. He should know better than to come to AK in the summer if he wants an audience.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at July 04, 2022 11:44 PM (LOVUx)

304 301
I'd probably agree on Rand Paul, not sure about Buchanan (but maybe that's just me).

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ every book has been rewritten ~ at July 04, 2022 11:45 PM (hOUT3)

305 Dam suitcases don't last me long, the Samsonite ones have been better than others. Thinking of spring for a new brand $750 I take 40-60 planes per year

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 04, 2022 11:45 PM (WF/xn)

306 Speaking of Palin, how do the polls look up there?

Posted by: davidt at July 04, 2022 11:46 PM (oTZbj)

307 I'm going to try and summarize a little noticed decision of the SC, about doctors prescribing pain meds. It was a 9-0 decision on June 30. I'm not going to go into all the legal arguments, but to say the effect is doctors will no longer have to fear being charged with crimes for providing pain relief. This has been a pet peeve of mine for a while, culminating with me being VASTLY undermedicated for pain with a broken leg. I'm pretty sure I wasn't faking a broken leg. But my doc said he was fearful of "overprescribing" and the results thereof.

So I was issued a scrip for less than 1/2 of what I actually needed, then was reluctant to give me ANY opioid scrip after 2 weeks. I suffered. A lot. I broke the pills in half. I waited 6 hours between. I still ran out. The pain was persistent until about 6 weeks out. Anyhow, this SC decision provides a solid legal shield for the future. (Legal Insurrection):

https://tinyurl.com/4eth5792

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 04, 2022 11:46 PM (F0YaR)

308 236 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at July 04, 2022 11:14 PM (XG2Fi)

They were assholes, my family worked for the Tudors far more charming parties.

Posted by: sven at July 04, 2022 11:47 PM (Lzpvj)

309 If that poor confuzzled Highland Park shooter had exercised a little more self control, he could have become an Admiral...
*********

"I am the very model of a modern MAGA-Criminal,
I've information antisocial, loony and subliminal
I post my vids on YouTube, and I rap the tunes hysterical
From Chitown up to Highland Park, in order atmospherical;
I'm very fond of neck tattoos, with symbolism mystical,
I understand trajectories, both simple and statistical,
Of anti-fascist theorem, I'm teeming with a lot o' news,
With many cheerful facts about the reasons that I got the noose."
All: With many cheerful facts about the reasons that he got the noose

Posted by: Muldoon at July 04, 2022 11:47 PM (kXYt5)

310 The illegal fireworks are going strong now! We are in the city limits...my kids just went out to light theirs.
Posted by: lin-duh at July 04, 2022 10:27 PM (UUBmN)

A number of years ago, MI made fireworks legal on about ten holidays, plus the day before and after the holiday (all other times subject to local ordinances).

People went nucking futs the first few years; now it is simply robust.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at July 04, 2022 11:47 PM (ufFY8)

311 >>Dam suitcases don't last me long, the Samsonite ones have been better than others. Thinking of spring for a new brand $750 I take 40-60 planes per year

Hartmann ballistic nylon. It will take a beating and keep going.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2022 11:48 PM (ZLI7S)

312 296 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2022 11:39 PM (m+mAo)

The lad will be around a lot of seamen in the near future....

or some homonym thereof.

Posted by: sven at July 04, 2022 11:48 PM (Lzpvj)

313 Bravo, Muldoon!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2022 11:50 PM (m+mAo)

314 Posted by: GnuBreed at July 04, 2022 11:46 PM (F0YaR)

Mom's longtime Doc was sued for this, right after he retired so HE had to pay all legal fees, vice the company he had worked for at the end.

He followed all the guidelines, and Mom took LESS than needed, but at times... it WAS needs for a 93 year old Lady, with bad joints, arthritis throughout her body, and multiple stints with cancer.

Lawyers just LOOK for anything they can make money off of... not caring for the consequences a lot of times.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 04, 2022 11:51 PM (oHd/0)

315 Thanks Jack, I will take a look

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 04, 2022 11:51 PM (WF/xn)

316 Weird... just looked outside... its all my new Hispanic neighbors shooting off fireworks...

Guess THEY have a lot to be thankful for.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 04, 2022 11:52 PM (oHd/0)

317 ..Dam suitcases don't last me long, the Samsonite ones have been better than others. Thinking of spring for a new brand $750 I take 40-60 planes per year. Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 04, 2022 11:45 PM (WF/xn)

If you travel that much, there are two options: Hartmann Luggage. Ferociously expensive, but bull-strong, lasts for years, and sustains International travel, serving for years. Did I say "expensive?" Hoo-boy, I sure did. But it's "buy once/cry once" stuff, and you won't have to worry about it for a long, long time.

Next option is to re-purpose Pelican cases of various shapes into the luggage you want it to be. It's the gold standard for shipping firearms or expensive and fragile electronics. Good enough for shipping dot-mil gear, ought to be good enough for your jammies and slippers?

Happy shopping!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 04, 2022 11:54 PM (tkOps)

318 310 The illegal fireworks are going strong now! We are in the city limits...my kids just went out to light theirs.

I left Austin in 2001. So glad I left. Town has incredible potential.

Communists ruin everything.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at July 04, 2022 11:54 PM (89T5c)

319 And on that note I am off to bed. Later y'all.

Endeavour to persevere.

And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.

Posted by: Muldoon at July 04, 2022 11:54 PM (kXYt5)

320 Why is a good piece of luggage so expensive???
Posted by: lin-duh at July 04, 2022 11:25 PM (UUBmN)

Some of it is just name.

Posted by: Javems at July 04, 2022 11:55 PM (AmoqO)

321 >>Thanks Jack, I will take a look

No worries. If you like the hard case luggage check out Briggs and Riley. Always feels more awkward to me even if it isn't but it is bulletproof.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 04, 2022 11:58 PM (ZLI7S)

322 North face makes some good travel bags. Kid has one that's been to China twice, hiked the Great Wall, been to fort Irwin and fort Polk and hiked in Yosemite for a month, etc. Not cheap but still in great shape.

Posted by: NCKate at July 04, 2022 11:58 PM (2oJif)

323 Thanks Jim

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at July 04, 2022 11:58 PM (WF/xn)

324 Local fireworks show was good. The best part was that the musical accompaniment did not include "Born in the USA" by that no-talent commie shitbag Bruce Springsteen. That shitty song has been a staple of fireworks shows for years, and it always makes me want to puke.

Posted by: a.moron at July 04, 2022 11:59 PM (F6Xpw)

325 I am making $92 an hour working from home. i was greatly surprised at the same time as my neighbour advised me she changed into averaging $ninety five however I see the way it works now. I experience mass freedom now that I'm my non-public boss.
That is what I do... www.salarycash1.com

Posted by: Sarah at July 05, 2022 12:00 AM (Fj8Me)

326 Jim,

Pelican cases are what we use to carry our portable equipment at the radio station. I highly recommend them.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at July 05, 2022 12:00 AM (aommx)

327 Vasectomy consults your 900% since Roe v Wade says one doctor.

https://tinyurl.com/4meujart

Missouri resident Lyon Lenk said his fiancee, Kelsey, means everything to him, and they are weighing her medical history after the court'sdecision on abortion.

“We’ve talked about me getting a vasectomy. I've got to contemplate doing what could potentially be a life-saving procedure for the person I love most. It’s not a decision I take lightly," Lenk said.

"Either I get this, or we risk her being denied a procedure down the line, and that's unacceptable to me," Lenk said. "It’s not a sacrifice. It’s the right thing to do."


This dude's cuck rating: 100%. If he marries this broad, he'll be raising some other dude's baby before Trump's second term is over.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 05, 2022 12:00 AM (LVPjk)

328 Happy Independence Day everyone.

Thanks for the ONT.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at July 05, 2022 12:02 AM (dNqv+)

329 I left Austin in 2001. So glad I left. Town has incredible potential.


There was a social media thread a year or so ago where many people weighed in with their opinion as to when Austin "peaked".

The consensus is that you left about a year or two before the irreversible decline began.

Personally, I think the JATO pack was lit when SXSW introduced VC into ATX and brought in all of the Communists staffing up tech start-ups.

Glad I got out in the first quarter of this year.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 05, 2022 12:02 AM (AHeqJ)

330 327 Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 05, 2022 12:00 AM (LVPjk)

Future costar of "My Wife's Son."

Posted by: sven at July 05, 2022 12:02 AM (Lzpvj)

331 We no likey the boom-booms.

Posted by: The Dog and Cat at July 05, 2022 12:02 AM (mNhhD)

332 That is what I do... www.salarycash1.com
Posted by: Sarah at July 05, 2022 12:00 AM (Fj8Me)

No, honey. what you do is spam comment sections with your shady bullshit.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2022 12:04 AM (m+mAo)

333 Posted by: Sarah at July 05, 2022 12:00 AM (Fj8Me)

Green Eggs And Spam.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 05, 2022 12:04 AM (F0YaR)

334 We have better Englishes than Sarah.

Posted by: The Dog and Cat at July 05, 2022 12:05 AM (mNhhD)

335 Happy Independence Day!

I prefer to call it that, rather than the Fourth of July, because you know who calls it the Fourth of July? The British. That's their standard method for naming calendar dates. The 11th of August, the 19th of October, etc.

Considering it's the day we started kicking their asses all the way back to London, I prefer to reject their name for this day on general principle.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at July 05, 2022 12:05 AM (H3MF8)

336 Town doing their finally now. Can't see a damn thing but I can hear it.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 05, 2022 12:06 AM (Bd6X8)

337 Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 05, 2022 12:00 AM (LVPjk)

If her life was in danger she would be allowed to terminate the pregnancy in every state. It's not that they are ignorant , it's that they know so much that is wrong. RR

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at July 05, 2022 12:06 AM (0SIeT)

338 No, honey. what you do is spam comment sections with your shady bullshit.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2022 12:04 AM (m+mAo)


Wait....people are getting paid to do what I do?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 05, 2022 12:06 AM (LVPjk)

339 Vasectomy consults your 900% since Roe v Wade says one doctor.

https://tinyurl.com/4meujart

Missouri resident Lyon Lenk said his fiancee, Kelsey, means everything to him, and they are weighing her medical history after the court's decision on abortion.

“We’ve talked about me getting a vasectomy. I've got to contemplate doing what could potentially be a life-saving procedure for the person I love most. It’s not a decision I take lightly," Lenk said.

"Either I get this, or we risk her being denied a procedure down the line, and that's unacceptable to me," Lenk said. "It’s not a sacrifice. It’s the right thing to do."

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 05, 2022 12:00 AM (LVPjk)

What did her dentist say?

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 05, 2022 12:06 AM (4I/2K)

340 338 Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 05, 2022 12:06 AM (LVPjk)

That lightweight made 92,000 with her low output?

I must be wealthy.

Blast from the past Shia La Poof "He Will Not Divide Us" troll fest...

https://youtu.be/kTnpmujbpNY

Posted by: sven at July 05, 2022 12:07 AM (Lzpvj)

341 King George is a fink!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at July 05, 2022 12:08 AM (anj39)

342 Then joke's on Lyon Lenk! Getting a vasectomy doesn't keep your wife from getting pregnant; it just changes the color of the baby.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at July 05, 2022 12:08 AM (H3MF8)

343 This dude's cuck rating: 100%. If he marries this broad, he'll be raising some other dude's baby before Trump's second term is over.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at July 05, 2022 12:00 AM (LVPjk)

Agreed. If "Kelsey's" medical history is such that becoming pregnant is a virtual death sentence, then she ought to get her tubes tied. What happens if he gets a vasectomy, then she dies young of her pre-existing condition, and after a suitable period of grieving, he remarries? And cannot get the snip reversed?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2022 12:08 AM (m+mAo)

344 339 https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyon-lenk-25a4b056

Yeah SoiBoi...guy has Paolo on speed dial.

Posted by: sven at July 05, 2022 12:09 AM (Lzpvj)

345 Not much in the way of fireworks within ear shot and I'm two feet from a window. Heard one burst of about twenty that sounded like a rifle with a bumb stock a while ago. Nothing like New Years Eve.

Posted by: Javems at July 05, 2022 12:09 AM (AmoqO)

346 If you don't believe in God can you believe in the constitution?
Posted by: jewells45

Yes
Posted by: SFGoth


How do you resolve the existence of "rights"?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 05, 2022 12:09 AM (AHeqJ)

347 Just finished watching a marathon of Yellowstone. OMG that actress who plays Beth is a real firecracker. She just steals whatever scene she is in.

Posted by: Tuna at July 05, 2022 12:09 AM (gLRfa)

348 North face makes some good travel bags. Kid has one that's been to China twice, hiked the Great Wall, been to fort Irwin and fort Polk and hiked in Yosemite for a month, etc. Not cheap but still in great shape.
Posted by: N


they are very good, mystery ranch has great packs too

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 05, 2022 12:10 AM (OOoEQ)

349 Name one politician alive today that you would believe actually meant it when he signed that document!

“Twilight Patriot” had an article on American Thinker today with the subtitle “Before Donald Trump, who was the last Republican president who didn't appoint at least one pro-choice Supreme Court justice?”

Answer: Herbert Hoover.

The article in the main is about lying to the base. Not a lot there that morons don’t already know, but the summary is presented in a concise and useful manner.

The people in the donor class, and in the press, continued to look down on the pro-life movement, and to insist that it was irresponsible for Republicans to advance that movement's goals when they were in power. But unlike presidents Ford, Reagan, Bush Sr., and Bush Jr., Trump didn't listen to those people. He had made promises to his base, and he intended to keep them.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 05, 2022 12:10 AM (U+Oxn)

350 What did her dentist say?

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 05, 2022 12:06 AM (4I/2K)


I promise not to cum in your mouth? Lyon has the sadz.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 05, 2022 12:11 AM (F0YaR)

351 #349 Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 05, 2022 12:10 AM (U+Oxn)

God bless President Trump!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at July 05, 2022 12:11 AM (H3MF8)

352 Agreed. If "Kelsey's" medical history is such that becoming pregnant is a virtual death sentence, then she ought to get her tubes tied. What happens if he gets a vasectomy, then she dies young of her pre-existing condition, and after a suitable period of grieving, he remarries? And cannot get the snip reversed?

That's the funny part, the snip is being sold as easliy reversible. Like flicking a switch on and off.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 05, 2022 12:12 AM (Bd6X8)

353 259 212 Did I hear the Creamo dud may have had an accomplice?
Posted by: BignJames at July 04, 2022 11:05 PM (AwYPR)

The most common fake news, when there is a mass shooting, is that there were multiple people involved. Occasionally it's true, or a little true. Mostly, it's not.
Posted by: Splunge at July 04, 2022 11:18 PM (2hil/)

Did they check out the grassy knoll?

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 04, 2022 11:20 PM (4I/2K)
----
It had been mowed and fertilized.

Posted by: Dutch Farmers - pig manure was used at July 05, 2022 12:12 AM (qfLjt)

354 in her defense her bull is referred to as the fire hydrant of love

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 05, 2022 12:13 AM (OOoEQ)

355 While reading some FB post by my AWFL sister and some others it occurred to me that their hatred of Trump, MAGA, conservatives... is actually growing more intense and deranged every day. His refusal to bend a knee and the rest of the try to not knuckle under is driving them insane, They take the J6 hearings very seriously and are expecting Trump and many others to be jailed, at last.

This is going to continue to escalate, despite Biden's unpopularity. This is leading nowhere good and fast.

Posted by: Ripley at July 05, 2022 12:14 AM (PTDkx)

356 347 Just finished watching a marathon of Yellowstone. OMG that actress who plays Beth is a real firecracker. She just steals whatever scene she is in.

Posted by: Tuna at July 05, 2022 12:09 AM (gLRfa)

Kelly Reilly. Mmm Mmm Mmm

Posted by: Javems at July 05, 2022 12:14 AM (AmoqO)

357 352 Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 05, 2022 12:12 AM (Bd6X

Life finds a way, pop had his snip event before two last impregnations with his last wife.

You would think that like surviving on the Tundra or near a Clinton the baby haters would try layering their preparations.

Posted by: sven at July 05, 2022 12:14 AM (Lzpvj)

358 That's the funny part, the snip is being sold as easliy reversible. Like flicking a switch on and off.
Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 05, 2022 12:12 AM (Bd6X

Ball valves could make a vas deferens!

Posted by: Count de Monet at July 05, 2022 12:14 AM (4I/2K)

359 Speaking of Palin, how do the polls look up there?

I’m planning on watching Trump’s July 9 rally, just because I want to see what she says and maybe how the crowd reacts.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at July 05, 2022 12:15 AM (U+Oxn)

360 While reading some FB post by my AWFL sister


shouldn't that be amwf

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 05, 2022 12:15 AM (OOoEQ)

361 Time to put in the ear plugs and head to bed. At least our dog doesn't freak out over all the earth-shattering kabooms. G'nite, Horde.

Posted by: PabloD at July 05, 2022 12:16 AM (ySCnP)

362 While reading some FB post by my AWFL sister


the other thing is who reads fb?

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 05, 2022 12:16 AM (OOoEQ)

363 How do you resolve the existence of "rights"?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 05, 2022 12:09 AM (AHeqJ)


Do you have a right to stay alive, in spite of someone trying to take it from you? How about liberty?, For that matter, property (which was in the first draft, but replace by 'happiness')?

These arguments are independent of a deity.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 05, 2022 12:17 AM (F0YaR)

364 shouldn't that be amwf
Posted by: confederatefifth at July 05, 2022 12:15 AM (OOoEQ)

Didn't they own Warley-Davidson for a while? Made shitty bikes, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2022 12:18 AM (m+mAo)

365 Didn't they own Warley-Davidson for a while? Made shitty bikes, too.
Posted by: Alb


Posted by: confederatefifth at July 05, 2022 12:19 AM (Y6z4l)

366 Do you have a right to stay alive, in spite of someone trying to take it from you? How about liberty?, For that matter, property (which was in the first draft, but replace by 'happiness')?

These arguments are independent of a deity.


natural rights

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 05, 2022 12:21 AM (Y6z4l)

367 Life finds a way, pop had his snip event before two last impregnations with his last wife.

Once ran into a middle aged lady with the cutest little girl. A late in life surprise well after the tubal ligation was supposed to prevent that. Only one method is 100% effective, but it's not the most practical approach when you're married.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 05, 2022 12:22 AM (Bd6X8)

368 If you are in Alabama apparently there is a store there that sells luggage (and contents) of lost unclaimed airline baggage.
They are not allowed to sell knock-offs - might find some good luggage. Or sunglasses. Or designer duds.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at July 05, 2022 12:22 AM (/jQbM)

369 One of my favorite things about the Declaration is how the Founders basically go Alinsky on the King-- find a target, freeze it, etc.

The King wasn't really a dictator or despot by that point, and everyone knew it. He had to get buy-in from Parliament (and his ministers).

But putting everything on one man (who deserved most of the scorn anyway) gave the others an out.

Yes, Parliament and the rest of them were complicit, but the Declaration masterfully put pressure on one point, instead of diffusing or dispersing it.

Posted by: Lance McCormick at July 05, 2022 12:22 AM (3hX1d)

370 367 Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 05, 2022 12:22 AM (Bd6X

People forget the entire reason we have the equipment to play romper room....

hell you could make a cogent argument our devolving society is an insane rejection of the unassailable fact.

Posted by: sven at July 05, 2022 12:24 AM (Lzpvj)

371 AOP. If you ever come across one of the AMF era "H-D" bikes made in Italy, by Ameriacchi, I'd love to find an intact one. (long as it's not museum grade or such?)

In the four stroke singles, they made a 350cc and a 250cc. Both resembled Ducati singles, with the cylinder near-horizontal out of the front of the exaggeratedly "ovaled" engine cases. Engine was a stressed member in a backbone frame.

They also made some two-strokes, down to the 125cc level, IIRC?

Second largest bike rally in the U.S. now is the Lone Star Rally, 1st weekend in November. Imagine "rinnngggdddingggdiinng!" down The Strand, while in full "biker" regalia, on an H.D. lightweight, under a cloud of castor oil smoke! LOL!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 05, 2022 12:25 AM (tkOps)

372 They also made some two-strokes, down to the 125cc level, IIRC?

Second largest bike rally in the U.S. now is the Lone Star Rally, 1st weekend in November. Imagine "rinnngggdddingggdiinng!" down The Strand, while in full "biker" regalia, on an H.D. lightweight, under a cloud of castor oil smoke! LOL!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at July 05, 2022 12:25 AM (tkOps)

I remember seeing some of those in magazine ads, but i don't recall ever seeing one in real life.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2022 12:28 AM (m+mAo)

373 H.D. lightweight, under a cloud of castor oil smoke! LOL!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 05, 2022 12:25 AM



I once owned a "Harley-Davidson" SS-225...

Also, an H-D snowmobile!

Posted by: Zettai at July 05, 2022 12:29 AM (ZCegP)

374 I've been posting for some time about the Declaration containing the resolution to the puddle of pig vomit we're wading in just now.

Read it, emulate it and let the shit fly where it will.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 05, 2022 12:30 AM (KATBx)

375 The g-g-g-grandson of one of the SC signers was a personal friend of mine. His name? Why, Thomas Heyward, of course.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2022 12:31 AM (jZBWN)

376 The g-g-g-grandson


that is a bitch of a stutter

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 05, 2022 12:32 AM (Y6z4l)

377 So out of a nation of 350 million plus, four names...
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ every book has been rewritten ~ at July 04, 2022 11:43 PM

I think that only comes from contemplating current politicians as signers. They wouldn’t be where they are today in this hypothetical situation. In effect, they are King George. We know that there are ‘Rons and ‘Ettes who would gladly sign. And I think it’s fitting in a way that, once again, it’s the subjects of a tyrannical government that would be stepping up.

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 05, 2022 12:33 AM (rbKZ6)

378

I was just go ogling the "SS-225"... It may have been the the SS-350 that I had owned -- ??

Posted by: Zettai at July 05, 2022 12:34 AM (BwCXb)

379 Do you have a right to stay alive, in spite of someone trying to take it from you? How about liberty?, For that matter, property (which was in the first draft, but replace by 'happiness')?

These arguments are independent of a deity.


natural rights


Define "car". A "car" is a "car". That is your argument.

Absent deity or some other benevolent transcendence, YOU get to define what YOUR "rights" are. Who says that you have a "right" to stay alive? You do.

By what authority do you claim a "right" to stay alive?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 05, 2022 12:36 AM (AHeqJ)

380 This week, Connecticut's governor, Ned Lamont, exacted his revenge in this open letter to Florida business owners, using Florida's political climate as an incentive.

"Hey guys, up here it's crowded, expensive, we have taxes, maybe we will let you off some of them but it's gonna cost you in grift. We have more crime, you can't really have firearms unless you are important and part of our in group, and the weather is pretty cold. We also tend to lean corporate left, so you never know when we might drop some expensive regs on you. You might be able to grift us off on that, too, we'll discuss it with you. But you can get an abortion, and it will be easier to find sicko entertainment. So whatcha think? Sound good?"

Posted by: azjaeger at July 05, 2022 12:36 AM (3/XaG)

381 They also made some two-strokes, down to the 125cc level, IIRC?

Second largest bike rally in the U.S. now is the Lone Star Rally, 1st weekend in November. Imagine "rinnngggdddingggdiinng!" down The Strand, while in full "biker" regalia, on an H.D. lightweight, under a cloud of castor oil smoke! LOL!

Jim
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Uncertain about that, but there were Harley-badged Aermacchis. I learned to ride on just such, a Sprint.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2022 12:38 AM (vDH+g)

382 July 4, 1942

The Battle of Midway was a month in the past. Japan was building this little airstrip at a place called Guadalcanal.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 05, 2022 12:38 AM (GSEqA)

383 375 The g-g-g-grandson of one of the SC signers was a personal friend of mine. His name? Why, Thomas Heyward, of course.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2022 12:31 AM

One of my grandmother’s sisters married a descendant of Arthur Middleton, also of SC. He was her next-door neighbor in Boston.

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 05, 2022 12:39 AM (rbKZ6)

384 "I still ran out. The pain was persistent until about 6 weeks out."

And that's how you end up with people addicted to heroin. Not oxy or percocet or morphine. Heroin. Good ol' black tar heroin. Because once they're desperate enough for pain relief to go out and actually buy *drugs*, they're no longer just popping the doctor-prescribed, controlled, medically-necessary amount, and they've already crossed the Rubicon by buying heroin. Bad place.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 05, 2022 12:39 AM (KAi1n)

385 AOP. If you ever come across one of the AMF era "H-D" bikes made in Italy, by Ameriacchi, I'd love to find an intact one. (long as it's not museum grade or such?)

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 05, 2022 12:25 AM (tkOps)

Sounds like a business opportunity, AoP.

Think you could find me a '71-'73 Mercury (Ford) Capri???

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 12:40 AM (7bRMQ)

386 I was really surprised they arrested that H Park murderer alive.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 05, 2022 12:40 AM (8GBH4)

387 I was really surprised they arrested that H Park murderer alive.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at July 05, 2022 12:40 AM



He was subpoenaed by the J6 Unselect Committee...

Posted by: Zettai at July 05, 2022 12:42 AM (BwCXb)

388 I was really surprised they arrested that H Park murderer alive.

How can a narcissist enjoy his fame if dead?

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 05, 2022 12:42 AM (GSEqA)

389 382- Me too!!

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 05, 2022 12:42 AM (rbKZ6)

390 Dutch Protesters Pour Manure On Government Offices Over Industry-Killing Regulations

Its a good start...but we've seen this playbook a hundred times now.

The government does something stupid and self-destructive. People who understand what they are going protest. And...the politicians don't care and do it anyway. And the majority of the population sits back and does nothing.

Which is fascinating in that, theoretically, this can't happen in a representative government. Nominally the politicians are doing this "for the greater good". But that larger group of people does not care. At all. And yet even though they are creating a strongly motivated opposition...they all still get re-elected.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 05, 2022 12:43 AM (ESjRY)

391 Bad place.
Posted by: SFGoth
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'There's a hole in daddy's arm where all the money goes..' - John Prine

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2022 12:47 AM (id1Da)

392 By what authority do you claim a "right" to stay alive?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at July 05, 2022 12:36 AM (AHeqJ)


Try to kill me and find out.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 05, 2022 12:47 AM (F0YaR)

393 Retard lights fireworks in his bedroom, is surprised that it emits fire.

https://bit.ly/3acpGrh

(You might want to turn the sound down a bit.)

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 05, 2022 12:48 AM (Bd6X8)

394 Didn't the Bee Gees sing about "Staying Alive"???

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 05, 2022 12:49 AM (GSEqA)

395 And how are the ONTers tonight? Our fireworks were last night, we can see them from the porch. We are old people, avoid the crowds, LOL.

Lock your doors when the carnival leaves town, advice from a cop we knew back when he was a busboy. Of course we have 2 labs and don't worry about locking the doors. Happy Independence Day!

Posted by: Farmer at July 05, 2022 12:52 AM (55Qr6)

396 Didn't the Bee Gees sing about "Staying Alive"???

Only Barry has managed to live up to that standard.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at July 05, 2022 12:52 AM (Bd6X8)

397 on Twitter is that he is a radicalized Trump supporter. Has anyone else seen this online yet? What do you think? (Reposted query from earlier thread)
Posted by: YES, BUT


Pink and green hair with face tatts?

No, suck a diseased donkey dick if you think that's a turnip supporter.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 05, 2022 12:52 AM (IEa8U)

398 312 296 Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 04, 2022 11:39 PM (m+mAo)

The lad will be around a lot of seamen in the near future....

or some homonym thereof.

Posted by: sven at July 04, 2022 11:48 PM (Lzpvj)
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A navel exercise then?

Posted by: Ciampino - a fishy story at July 05, 2022 12:53 AM (qfLjt)

399 on Twitter is that he is a radicalized Trump supporter

He's a tranny.

I can believe a Trump supporter with tats. An angry tranny though....err...no.

Posted by: 18-1 at July 05, 2022 12:54 AM (ESjRY)

400 How do you resolve the existence of "rights"?
Posted by: Reuben Hick

I don't understand what you mean, "resolve" the "existence" of ""rights""? If your position is that rights (meaning the big ones) come only from God, then how do you prove the existence of the source of those rights? There's no proof, either way, which is why it's called "faith". It would also seem that 2000 years of Christianity do not exactly reflect well on the sentiment you espouse. That it took until 1776 for anyone of power or stature to draft such a document doesn't seem to bode well for your thesis. To me, the rights discussed in the Dec. of Indep. reflect the highest and best sense of mankind as a self-aware, organizing, productive, and creative living entity. It is a waste of man's potential to derogate those rights. They come from humanity's potential.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 05, 2022 12:55 AM (KAi1n)

401 "deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.."

This consent you speak of, does not exist.

Lysander Spooner crushed your argument.

You have no authority nor right to govern, any more than the English did.

Posted by: Broken Apple at July 05, 2022 12:55 AM (nv6lv)

402 "I still ran out. The pain was persistent until about 6 weeks out."

And that's how you end up with people addicted to heroin. Not oxy or percocet or morphine. Heroin. Good ol' black tar heroin. Because once they're desperate enough for pain relief to go out and actually buy *drugs*, they're no longer just popping the doctor-prescribed, controlled, medically-necessary amount, and they've already crossed the Rubicon by buying heroin. Bad place.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 05, 2022 12:39 AM (KAi1n)


Oh, that thought crossed my mind many times. But, housebound mobility and no 'connections' is what stopped me. Shame had nothing to do with it.

Anyhow, perhaps the pendulum has swung and future people in genuine pain can get relief. Without the fucking scoldings.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 05, 2022 12:56 AM (F0YaR)

403 Think you could find me a '71-'73 Mercury (Ford) Capri???
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 12:40 AM (7bRMQ)

I remember them. They had a lot of fans, back in the day. Kind of a vest-pocket Mustang. It has been years since I have seen one on the road.

I am working on one of these, '64 Studebaker Daytona hardtop:

https://tinyurl.com/2mvvap8k

My car is white, like the one pictured. It has a V8 and 4-speed transmission, and was a disc brake car, but now has drum brakes. I will probably keep the drum brakes on it, as the discs were cool, but not that much better.

Got the carburetor on it today, and all the hoses, pipes, and linkages connected.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2022 12:58 AM (m+mAo)

404 Oh, man, this is funny!

Bette Midler let it be known that Fourth of July was effectively ‘canceled’ after the SCOTUS decision last month.

She tweeted a meme which read: "4th of July has been canceled following a shortage of Independence. Sincerely, Women."

The "Beaches" actress continued with: "WOMEN OF THE WORLD! We are being stripped of our rights over our bodies, our lives and even of our name! They don’t call us "women" anymore; they call us "birthing people" or "menstruators", and even "people with vaginas"! Don’t let them erase you! Every human on earth owes you!"


Uh, that's your own side calling women "birthing people" and "menstruators" and "people with vaginas", you asshole. Pro-life conservatives still call women "women", apart from the odd instance when someone like me calls you "dipshit."

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at July 05, 2022 12:58 AM (H3MF8)

405 >>on Twitter is that he is a radicalized Trump supporter

What the fuck is a radicalized Trump supporter and why would it shoot up an Independence Day parade?

I'm not even mad about their accusations anymore. I'm pissed off that they think I am stupid enough to believe this bullshit.

This is one of the dumbest fucking things I've ever heard.

Posted by: JackStraw at July 05, 2022 12:59 AM (ZLI7S)

406 Didn't the Bee Gees sing about "Staying Alive"???
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 05, 2022 12:49 AM (GSEqA)

that's the rhythm you are supposed to use while performing CPR, according to the First Aid courses I have taken.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2022 01:00 AM (m+mAo)

407 ...apart from the odd instance when someone like me calls you "dipshit."
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at July 05, 2022 12:58 AM (H3MF

"stunned c***" also works in her case.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2022 01:01 AM (m+mAo)

408 My car is white, like the one pictured. It has a V8 and 4-speed transmission, and was a disc brake car, but now has drum brakes. I will probably keep the drum brakes on it, as the discs were cool, but not that much better.

Got the carburetor on it today, and all the hoses, pipes, and linkages connected.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2022 12:58 AM (m+mAo)

Really nice. I can't see why Studebaker couldn't keep going. Those last models don't look and worse than the same year Dodge Darts or others of the class.

Anyway, I shared a Capri with my brother, but he and dad took a fishing trip and the car caught fire and burned up. Have never found one again that the owner didn't want 10k or more for. Even rust buckets. I miss that car.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 01:03 AM (7bRMQ)

409 The g-g-g-grandson of one of the SC signers was a personal friend of mine. His name? Why, Thomas Heyward, of course.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2022 12:31

One of my grandmother’s sisters married a descendant of Arthur Middleton, also of SC. He was her next-door neighbor in Boston.
Posted by: Moonbeam at July 05, 2022 12:39
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Benjamin Rush, a signer from VA, was a doctor and my second cousin, 7 times removed (something like that). He was noted for promoting more humane treatment for the mentally ill, his brother had problems. Also noted for promoting bleeding as a treatment and some cast some blame on him for Washington's death.

Posted by: Farmer at July 05, 2022 01:05 AM (55Qr6)

410 Anyway, I shared a Capri with my brother, but he and dad took a fishing trip and the car caught fire and burned up. Have never found one again that the owner didn't want 10k or more for. Even rust buckets. I miss that car.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 01:03 AM (7bRMQ)

Shame, that. I will keep an eye out for one. You never know when something like that will turn up. There are some guys here in Alberta who have hundreds of old cars in the back 40.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2022 01:05 AM (m+mAo)

411 "Oh, that thought crossed my mind many times. But, housebound mobility and no 'connections' is what stopped me. Shame had nothing to do with it."

I'm sure you could've figured out how to make a connection online and get it delivered. Good that you didn't.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 05, 2022 01:07 AM (KAi1n)

412 I don't understand what you mean, "resolve" the "existence" of ""rights""? If your position is that rights (meaning the big ones) come only from God, then how do you prove the existence of the source of those rights?

"We hold these truths to be self evident" means that we don't need to prove God or His nature because everyone who is part of the project in America already recognizes Him.

Posted by: Methos at July 05, 2022 01:08 AM (kOpft)

413 Anyway, I shared a Capri with my brother, but he and dad took a fishing trip and the car caught fire and burned up. Have never found one again that the owner didn't want 10k or more for. Even rust buckets. I miss that car.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 01:03 AM (7bRMQ)

Forgot to add: if you find a nice driver for about 10K, that isn't a rust bucket, just snag it. Because if you got a free basket case, and spent 10K on it, you'd have a ten-thousand dollar car.

These days, ten grand is less than half the price of any new car worth having.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2022 01:09 AM (m+mAo)

414 Lysander Spooner was Athole.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 05, 2022 01:09 AM (KAi1n)

415 "We hold these truths to be self evident" means that we don't need to prove God or His nature because everyone who is part of the project in America already recognizes Him.
Posted by: Methos

Ok....

Posted by: SFGoth at July 05, 2022 01:10 AM (KAi1n)

416 ..Uncertain about that, but there were Harley-badged Aermacchis. I learned to ride on just such, a Sprint. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2022 12:38 AM (vDH+g)

Yep. "Sprint" were the 250/350 four strokes. Forgot altogether what they called the wee two strokes.

I think an H-D 125cc two stroke would look cool, hanging on nautical davits off of the back of a Big Twin trike.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 05, 2022 01:11 AM (tkOps)

417 Lysander Spooner was Athole.
Posted by: SFGoth
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"Consent" can be rescinded....at any time.... Otherwise.... It isn't "consent."

Posted by: Broken Apple at July 05, 2022 01:13 AM (nv6lv)

418 Shame, that. I will keep an eye out for one. You never know when something like that will turn up. There are some guys here in Alberta who have hundreds of old cars in the back 40.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2022 01:05 AM (m+mAo)

Thanks AoP. Just wishful thinking probably. I have a kid starting college next month, so not much money. They're blue booking for a couple grand for a daily driver, but the national Capri Car Club tells me that's way too low. Nobody in the club seems to be selling anyway....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 01:13 AM (7bRMQ)

419 "Consent" can be rescinded....at any time.... Otherwise.... It isn't "consent."

One man
One vote
One time

Well, including women, and err...inbetweens. And really should oppressed people get more votes anyway?

Posted by: The Left at July 05, 2022 01:14 AM (ESjRY)

420 "deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.."

This consent you speak of, does not exist.
Lysander Spooner crushed your argument.
You have no authority nor right to govern, any more than the English did.
Posted by: Broken Apple at July 05, 2022 12:55 AM (nv6lv)


Spooner, in Constitution of No Authority was not saying that there was no ability to consent, but that the consent claimed as pretext for action of the government did not exist outside of the fact that most people were not in a position to flee from it; all the signers of the Constitution were dead, and the only ones that could be held to the document were those who took an oath to uphold it, which were officials of the federal government.

Now, Rothbard on the other hand . . .

Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2022 01:14 AM (xhaym)

421 Anyhow, perhaps the pendulum has swung and future people in genuine pain can get relief. Without the fucking scoldings.
Posted by: GnuBreed at July 05, 2022 12:5

Yep Gnu. I've taken tramadol on and off for over 20 yrs. It barely blunts the pain when I need it, yet now docs are afraid to prescribe it because of govt rules. Just plain stupid.

Posted by: Farmer at July 05, 2022 01:15 AM (55Qr6)

422
Well, including women, and err...inbetweens. And really should oppressed people get more votes anyway?
Posted by: The Left at July 05, 2022 01:14 AM (ESjRY)

Wrong. Lysander hammers your voting argument in spades..

Posted by: Broken Apple at July 05, 2022 01:17 AM (nv6lv)

423 Thanks AoP. Just wishful thinking probably. I have a kid starting college next month, so not much money. They're blue booking for a couple grand for a daily driver, but the national Capri Car Club tells me that's way too low. Nobody in the club seems to be selling anyway....
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 01:13 AM (7bRMQ)

eBay is a good place to look, also BringATrailer.com

since they were a Euro Ford product, might not hurt to search Euro sources, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2022 01:18 AM (m+mAo)

424 all the signers of the Constitution were dead
Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2022 01:14 AM (xhaym)
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You got that part right.

Posted by: Broken Apple at July 05, 2022 01:19 AM (nv6lv)

425 When I had my hernia repaired Nov of 2020, I held out as long as I could but on the 2nd day, I was in excruciating pain, and miserable with a touch of fever, so I *had* to take something besides ibu. I finally opened the bottle of roxi and it sure helped. However, I didn't use all of it since one side effect of opiates is wicked constipation and when you're recovering from groin hernia surgery, constipation is contraindicated. Sadly, marijuana makes me more sensitive to pain so I had to go 3 weeks without.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 05, 2022 01:20 AM (KAi1n)

426 As for Rothbard... I'll have to read up.

Posted by: Broken Apple at July 05, 2022 01:20 AM (nv6lv)

427 Wrong. Lysander hammers your voting argument in spades..

Posted by: Broken Apple at July 05, 2022 01:17 AM (nv6lv)


Generally Spooner is good on this, but Murray Rothbard and Hans Hermann-Hoppe seem to have a better grip on the concepts.

I do like Spooner, but I get the feeling he is a touch too positive on his conclusions.
I do like the approach of contract law to the Constitution, however.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2022 01:22 AM (xhaym)

428 Lysander Spooner is also dead. And he had a ridiculous looking beard. Other than that, I only know that he's of Athol.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 05, 2022 01:22 AM (KAi1n)

429
Mardon me, Padam, but this pie is occupewed. May I sew you to another sheet?

Posted by: Rev. William Archibald Spooner at July 05, 2022 01:23 AM (Mzdiz)

430 eBay is a good place to look, also BringATrailer.com

since they were a Euro Ford product, might not hurt to search Euro sources, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2022 01:18 AM (m+mAo)

E-bay has the fake Mustang Capris all the time. Never see any of '71 to '73 anymore. Scotty Kilmer said it might be cheaper to buy and ship from Europe than buy a car here from a dealer because they jack up the prices.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 01:23 AM (7bRMQ)

431 418 An old Capri will cost you as much as a vette once you've gone through it so why get a capri???

Posted by: MAxIE at July 05, 2022 01:25 AM (twxj3)

432 Loser with tats and neon pink hair tied in scrawny pony-tails is NOT in any form a supporter of Donald J Trump.

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 05, 2022 01:25 AM (GSEqA)

433 Lysander Spooner is also dead. And he had a ridiculous looking beard. Other than that, I only know that he's of Athol.
Posted by: SFGoth at July 05, 2022 01:22 AM (KAi1n)


I would post a link to youtube for "Athol Brose" tune, but commercials and youtoob

Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2022 01:25 AM (xhaym)

434 Can you believe in god and believe in slavery? apparently so.
Posted by: raimondo at July 04, 2022 10:23 PM (NMDj9

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The Egyptians, Hindus, Muslims, Mayans and Aztecs say yes.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at July 05, 2022 01:25 AM (h1jJh)

435 You forgot Tin Lizzie Warren's noble Plains Indians...

Posted by: Anna Puma at July 05, 2022 01:26 AM (GSEqA)

436
God bless our queer old dean!

Posted by: Rev. William Archibald Spooner at July 05, 2022 01:27 AM (Mzdiz)

437 SFG - Having been through bi-lateral hernia repair less than 3 months ago, I concur wit your comments.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2022 01:30 AM (MrUzB)

438 One of the interesting conceits of Spooner's approach is that all rights are property rights, including life, liberty and property: if the individual does not own himself and that right to ownership is not inalienable (can not be given away, not cannot be stolen) then there are no rights.

As a philosophical stance, it simplifies EVERYTHING, so from a utilitarian stance, it is justified.

Posted by: Kindltot at July 05, 2022 01:30 AM (xhaym)

439 An old Capri will cost you as much as a vette once you've gone through it so why get a capri???

Posted by: MAxIE at July 05, 2022 01:25 AM (twxj3)

I don't really know the final cost of one that's road ready and worthy. I remember you could get one for a couple hundred dollars years ago. Thanks to all the car restoration shows, older cars have skyrocketed whether they were worth it or not. Don't know if they'll ever come down. As I say, I don't ever expect to get one again. Maybe no "classic car" either.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 01:31 AM (7bRMQ)

440 C5 vette (1997-2004) will cost you $10-15K and it's already awesome
What I really need is a source for a 4wd truck

Posted by: MAxIE at July 05, 2022 01:33 AM (twxj3)

441 The German "Ford" Capri was damn near a Lotus in it's handling and tossability.

Can't say it was an acceleration rocket in any regard, but it was what most German coupes were in that era. Just, better looking in the bargain. Insight. Even in San Diego, they rusted, and they rusted quickly. Might explain their U.S. scarcity?

The BMW 2002 was the next automotive evolutionary step in the Strum & Drang dialect.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 05, 2022 01:36 AM (tkOps)

442 There seem to be a fair number of nice-looking Capris for sale in Germany.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2022 01:37 AM (m+mAo)

443 C5 vette (1997-2004) will cost you $10-15K and it's already awesome
What I really need is a source for a 4wd truck

Posted by: MAxIE at July 05, 2022 01:33 AM (twxj3)

I never cared for Corvettes. The only ones I semi like are the first models, maybe through the split window, after that, nah.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 01:37 AM (7bRMQ)

444
Young man, you have hissed all my mystery lectures, and in addition have been convicted of fighting a liar in the inner quad! Indeed, you have tasted two whole worms, and will leave Oxford immediately by the next town drain!

Posted by: Rev. William Archibald Spooner at July 05, 2022 01:37 AM (Mzdiz)

445 Thanks to all the car restoration shows, older cars have skyrocketed whether they were worth it or not. Don't know if they'll ever come down. As I say, I don't ever expect to get one again. Maybe no "classic car" either.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 01:31

Obama's old car buy back, in the name of "climate change" did no one any favors. Drove up the cost of used cars and that still impacts the market. Let alone now we we Biden, yay.

Posted by: Farmer at July 05, 2022 01:38 AM (55Qr6)

446 The BMW 2002 was the next automotive evolutionary step in the Strum & Drang dialect.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at July 05, 2022 01:36 AM (tkOps)

The 2002 arguably was what made BMW's bones in North America. Kind of dumpy-looking, but very good performance and handling. Their drive line U-joints are rubber donuts, no shit.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2022 01:39 AM (m+mAo)

447 432 Loser with tats and neon pink hair tied in scrawny pony-tails is NOT in any form a supporter of Donald J Trump.
Posted by: Anna Puma at July 05, 2022 01:25 AM (GSEqA)

I guess he went to Trump rally's dressed as Where's Waldo so that makes him a Trump supporter or something

Posted by: It's me donna at July 05, 2022 01:39 AM (bs+z0)

448 Let's not forget that Arthur Spooner founded Festivus. Oh, wait...wrong Spooner.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 05, 2022 01:40 AM (MrUzB)

449 There seem to be a fair number of nice-looking Capris for sale in Germany.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2022 01:37 AM (m+mAo)

I wonder about the shipping. Maybe I could save money by asking AOC to drive it here for me?

We never had problems with rust on ours, but it was a CA car, Jim.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 01:41 AM (7bRMQ)

450 Obama's old car buy back, in the name of "climate change" did no one any favors. Drove up the cost of used cars and that still impacts the market. Let alone now we we Biden, yay.

Posted by: Farmer at July 05, 2022 01:38 AM (55Qr6)

I agree.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 01:44 AM (7bRMQ)

451 because you know who calls it the Fourth of July? The British. That's their standard method for naming calendar dates. The 11th of August, the 19th of October, etc.

Considering it's the day we started kicking their asses all the way back to London, I prefer to reject their name for this day on general principle.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at July 05, 2022 12:05 AM (H3MF


Thinking about it, do the Brits (or just the English) have anything resembling an Independence Day? Guy Fawkes Day is a day for celebrating the non-destruction of Parliament, which is nothing like an Independence Day. I can't seem to remember from my study of English/British history any time in the past when the people rose up against their oppressors and kicked them out. Sure, Boudica tried against the Romans, but she ultimately failed and lost; the Romans ended up pretty much just fading away. And when the Normans invaded in the personage of William, he became King of England. Even in WWII, there were many in the peerage set willing to work with any potential victorious Nazi invaders.

So it seems to me celebrating of our Independence Day creates envy on the part of the English/Brits.

Posted by: RickZ at July 05, 2022 01:44 AM (ldL4g)

452 I wonder about the shipping. Maybe I could save money by asking AOC to drive it here for me?

We never had problems with rust on ours, but it was a CA car, Jim.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 01:41 AM (7bRMQ)

I'd look at the cost of bringing a sea can from Hamburg to an East Coast port. Should be able to fit 2-3 cars in a can. Maybe split the cost with another person? Or buy two cars, a Capri for you, and some other ready seller, like a VW transporter?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2022 01:45 AM (m+mAo)

453 Yep Gnu. I've taken tramadol on and off for over 20 yrs. It barely blunts the pain when I need it, yet now docs are afraid to prescribe it because of govt rules. Just plain stupid.

Posted by: Farmer at July 05, 2022 01:15 AM (55Qr6)


Relief is on the way, hopefully, thanks to this SC decision. (9-0, for those keeping score). Chronic pain is mentioned in the decision.

Posted by: GnuBreed at July 05, 2022 01:45 AM (F0YaR)

454 Old cars are appealing from an aesthetical standpoint, certainly not from an engineering one, though they were decent.

Newer transportation modules have the appeal of a tree stump.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 05, 2022 01:45 AM (KATBx)

455
I'm not sure, but I think Lysander and Rev. William Archibald of Spoonerism fame did share a common ancestor.

Rev. Spooner did get a bit tongue-tied at times -- his brain just went to fast for his mouth, but half the shit they say he said is just flat-out embellished.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at July 05, 2022 01:46 AM (Mzdiz)

456 Orange Ent. I *grew up* in San Diego.

And could watch Capris rust in real time.*

Opel GTs did not rust, as they were aluminum. Alas, they were POS go-carts at the sub-Miata level, too.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

*Datsun truck beds rusted horribly faster than their chassis & cabs. The beds were U.S. made and installed after import, of course. (chassis and cabs rusted 2 years later, though.)

Posted by: Jim at July 05, 2022 01:46 AM (tkOps)

457 Old cars are appealing from an aesthetical standpoint, certainly not from an engineering one, though they were decent.

Newer transportation modules have the appeal of a tree stump.
Posted by: irongrampa at July 05, 2022 01:45 AM (KATBx)

Plenty of old cars were amazingly well-engineered, according to the standards of the day. But they could not engineer stuff that had not yet been invented.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2022 01:48 AM (m+mAo)

458 I'd look at the cost of bringing a sea can from Hamburg to an East Coast port. Should be able to fit 2-3 cars in a can. Maybe split the cost with another person? Or buy two cars, a Capri for you, and some other ready seller, like a VW transporter?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2022 01:45 AM (m+mAo)

Heh, sounds like money AOP! Remember the college kid next month!

Irongrampa, you're right. I grew up with these 60s and 70s classic cars. I look today and you have to look at the badging to tell the mfg. They all have the same shape. Heck, I might just give up driving at some point. I always smiled behind the wheel of my MGB, but I don't smile driving any modern car....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 01:50 AM (7bRMQ)

459 *Datsun truck beds rusted horribly faster than their chassis & cabs. The beds were U.S. made and installed after import, of course. (chassis and cabs rusted 2 years later, though.)
Posted by: Jim at July 05, 2022 01:46 AM (tkOps)

I think the Datsuns sold in Canada had Japan-made bed on them. Only new vehicle I ever owned was a 1981 Datsun 4X4 King Cab pickup. It was a great little truck.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2022 01:52 AM (m+mAo)

460 Heh, sounds like money AOP! Remember the college kid next month!

If you crunch your numbers right, and choose the right cars, you might add to kidlet's college fund. "Importers", after all, are in business to make money.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2022 01:54 AM (m+mAo)

461 Orange Ent. I *grew up* in San Diego.

And could watch Capris rust in real time.*

Oh I believe you, Jim. We lived in NorCal so no sea air and no snow, so no salt. The Capri was nearly ten years old when we bought it and it had no rust. Maybe we just got lucky?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 01:55 AM (7bRMQ)

462 If you crunch your numbers right, and choose the right cars, you might add to kidlet's college fund. "Importers", after all, are in business to make money.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2022 01:54 AM (m+mAo)

Ah, there's the rub. To do that in my state I'd be required to get a business license. Canada isn't a big deal, but from EU, probably too much hassle. Eh, just dreaming anyway....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 01:57 AM (7bRMQ)

463 Tis time.

Goodnite, good people. Be safe and sleep well.

Posted by: irongrampa at July 05, 2022 01:58 AM (KATBx)

464 460 My 2008 z06 has gone up $15K in value since I bought it 2 years ago but that's probably not gonna continue

Posted by: MAxIE at July 05, 2022 01:59 AM (twxj3)

465 Well, it's midnight here, time for me to hit the sack. Night, Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2022 01:59 AM (m+mAo)

466 Datsun truck beds rusted horribly faster than their chassis & cabs. The beds were U.S. made and installed after import, of course. (chassis and cabs rusted 2 years later, though.)
Posted by: Jim at July 05, 2022 01:46 AM (tkOps)

My Datsun truck rusted out along the outside of the truck bed.... but that was in Hawaii, and I admittedly did not take good care of it.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 05, 2022 02:01 AM (oHd/0)

467 The msm is garbage. Pure fucking garbage. Itnis basically saying hey man with scotus rulings and Jan 6th the guy sort of hd no choice but to go on a rampage.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 05, 2022 02:04 AM (3vQN0)

468 Tue everything bubble is starting to collapse. If yiu have a used car and don’t need it sell now. SMe with RVs and boats. The party is over.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 05, 2022 02:05 AM (3vQN0)

469 In 2004 when I wrecked my 1996 Saturn SL2, I wish I had bought a used 2002 SL2 (last model year I think) instead of getting an Audi A4. The Saturn just fit like a glove, and while the A/C and turning radius were underwhelming, it had best-in-class power with low-end torque like no other compact (and given how light it was, it took off like a rocket). If I had the money and could find one (or retrofit it to be) smog compliant, I'd get it. And that teardrop shape really looked nice.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 05, 2022 02:05 AM (KAi1n)

470 Arthur Spooner founded Festivus.


that and then there was the thing about his name being costanza

Posted by: confederatefifth at July 05, 2022 02:08 AM (B1UW2)

471 Romeo13.

Your Datsun truck was imported to Pacific Datusn, the U.S.'s first Datsun dealer in the USA. And then equipped with it's bed, and then shipped westward to Hawaii.

The first importers of Datsun(nissan), Toyota, Honda, etc. Damn, but those were business GAMBLES of the highest order! I'd love to read a compendium of those that eventually failed. (R.I.P. Hodaka Motorcycles)

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 05, 2022 02:09 AM (tkOps)

472 In 2004 when I wrecked my 1996 Saturn SL2, I wish I had bought a used 2002 SL2 (last model year I think) instead of getting an Audi A4. The Saturn just fit like a glove, and while the A/C and turning radius were underwhelming, it had best-in-class power with low-end torque like no other compact (and given how light it was, it took off like a rocket). If I had the money and could find one (or retrofit it to be) smog compliant, I'd get it. And that teardrop shape really looked nice.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 05, 2022 02:05 AM (KAi1n)

Well, a/c isn't all that needed in the Bay Area, per Mark Twain. If you were in the East Bay, maybe.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 02:10 AM (7bRMQ)

473 GM had a success with Saturn because it was not a GM teally, itbwas its own thing built to be non GM. Then after a few years they GMed it and fucked it up bigly.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 05, 2022 02:11 AM (3vQN0)

474 Posted by: Jim at July 05, 2022 02:09 AM (tkOps)

Yeah, I bought it used in Calif, then had the Navy ship it to Hawaii when I transferred there... good little truck. Did REALLY well in the snow for a 2 wheel drive. Thing was so light it didn't dig in at all.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 05, 2022 02:12 AM (oHd/0)

475 Well, a/c isn't all that needed in the Bay Area, per Mark Twain. If you were in the East Bay, maybe.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 02:10 AM (7bRMQ)

You don't need AC in San Fran for the Heat... you need it to filter out the stench.

Posted by: Romeo13 at July 05, 2022 02:13 AM (oHd/0)

476 Howdy everyone and Good Night.

Posted by: Theodore at July 05, 2022 02:13 AM (GJnvT)

477 ..Tue everything bubble is starting to collapse. If yiu have a used car and don’t need it sell now. SMe with RVs and boats. The party is over. Posted by: Joe XiDen at July 05, 2022 02:05 AM (3vQN0)

Does gold or silver rise or fall?

(ammo always rises)

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 05, 2022 02:14 AM (tkOps)

478 All new cars look like sneakers. Bring back chrome, dammit, and three on a tree so I can drive like a Queen.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at July 05, 2022 02:24 AM (LOVUx)

479 Daily Mail has a ridiculous propaganda piece on the Highlands Park shooter insinuating in every way they possibly can manufacture that he is a Trump supporter.
Leftie commenters are swallowing it whole.

It's infuriating.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at July 05, 2022 02:30 AM (sWM8x)

480 All new cars look like sneakers. Bring back chrome, dammit, and three on a tree so I can drive like a Queen.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at July 05, 2022 02:24 AM (LOVUx)

yeah its amazing how cars used to have a shit load of bling on them. Some of those classic cars have gigantor piles of trim and moldings. You don't have squat on a new car.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 05, 2022 02:32 AM (VwHCD)

481 yeah its amazing how cars used to have a shit load of bling on them. Some of those classic cars have gigantor piles of trim and moldings. You don't have squat on a new car.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 05, 2022 02:32 AM (VwHCD)

Because they're not aerodynamic. The govt wants aerodynamic.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 02:33 AM (7bRMQ)

482 480 All new cars look like sneakers. Bring back chrome, dammit, and three on a tree so I can drive like a Queen.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at July 05, 2022 02:24 AM

Oh my gosh, I have said this a million times and people think I'm crazy! Thank you!

Posted by: Moonbeam at July 05, 2022 02:34 AM (rbKZ6)

483 One could make a Tahoe Woody every bit as aero as can be.

Real wood, too. None of that '70s vinyl fakery.

What? I didn't say it had to hold up past the three year warranty, did I?


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 05, 2022 02:38 AM (tkOps)

484 What? I didn't say it had to hold up past the three year warranty, did I?

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at July 05, 2022 02:38 AM (tkOps)

Tacky wood paneling contains substances known to the state of California to cause cancer.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 05, 2022 02:40 AM (5oKCN)

485 ..good thing I don't do tacky work then, eh?

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at July 05, 2022 02:46 AM (tkOps)

486 485 ..good thing I don't do tacky work then, eh?

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at July 05, 2022 02:46 AM (tkOps)

Classy and absolutely 100% non-tacky wood paneling contains substances known....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 05, 2022 02:48 AM (5oKCN)

487 Classy and absolutely 100% non-tacky wood paneling contains substances known....
Posted by: Warai-otoko
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VOC's...Rheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Posted by: California at July 05, 2022 02:52 AM (vDH+g)

488 Warai-otoko.

99.99% of Teh Horde, would evoke cancer in any given Califorina Snowflake.

Even our 'ettes exude excessive amounts of Toxic Masculinity in the CA environment.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

/zzzzz nite nite!

Posted by: Jim at July 05, 2022 02:55 AM (tkOps)

489 423
since they were a Euro Ford product, might not hurt to search Euro sources, too.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at July 05, 2022 01:18 AM (m+mAo)
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Popular in South Africa too and made there.

Posted by: Was on the isle of Capri were I met her .. at July 05, 2022 02:56 AM (qfLjt)

490 I've been on vacation and enjoying existence for a bit. It's amazing how i completely missed this latest shooting event. It's doubly amazing how utterly absurd the rumor-mill professional-bullshitters who have the unmitigated gall to call themselves journalists have gotten.

Try it some time. Unplug completely. Let a few days go by. Plug back in and look at the absurdity. However ridiculous you might think things are, it's actually worse.

It's no wonder "news" outlets are fervently circling the shitter drain.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 05, 2022 03:00 AM (5oKCN)

491 Posted by: Buck Dharma at July 04, 2022 10:20 PM (8E8Am)

Prayers for the Philly cops and specially for Wyatt
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion

Seconded !

Posted by: JT at July 05, 2022 03:12 AM (arJlL)

492 Tacky wood paneling contains substances known to the state of California to cause cancer.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 05, 2022 02:40 AM (5oKCN)

Every frigging thing is known to cause cancer in california. I open a new harley tool, a metal tool, yup, there's the label. Parts? Yup, there's the frigging label. No matter what it is, there's the label. Fucking california is known to cause cancer in california.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 05, 2022 03:15 AM (VwHCD)

493 Thank you, MisHum, for a beautiful Independence Day ONT.
Posted by: Lola

Seconded !

Posted by: JT at July 05, 2022 03:18 AM (arJlL)

494 Fucking california is known to cause cancer in california.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at July 05, 2022 03:15 AM (VwHCD)

California is the political equivalent of a papillomavirus.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 05, 2022 03:20 AM (5oKCN)

495
Obsessing over what is known to cause cancer is known to cause cancer.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at July 05, 2022 03:28 AM (Mzdiz)

496
Wokeness is known to cause cancer.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at July 05, 2022 03:28 AM (Mzdiz)

497 >>>NPR ends tradition of reading Declaration of Independence on July 4th, claiming that we no longer have "equality."

Shameful.

Posted by: m at July 05, 2022 03:33 AM (euHgA)

498 National Pubic Radio

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 05, 2022 03:35 AM (5oKCN)

499
Buttfucking is known to cause ass cancer. Also monkey pox. Also AIDS.

Don't buttfuck.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at July 05, 2022 03:39 AM (Mzdiz)

500 Drop the veil. You are collectivists. You loathe liberty. You despise individual success. You hate providence. You stand four-square against everything America is and ought to be. So I heartily applaud every effort you make to drop the pretense that you love America, and i feel refreshed that you no longer pathetically try to hide your inhuman, inhumane worldview behind a gauzy curtain of pickup trucks, pyrotechnics, and poorly cooked beef.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 05, 2022 03:40 AM (5oKCN)

501 Drop the veil. You are collectivists. You loathe liberty. You despise individual success. You hate providence. You stand four-square against everything America is and ought to be. So I heartily applaud every effort you make to drop the pretense that you love America, and i feel refreshed that you no longer pathetically try to hide your inhuman, inhumane worldview behind a gauzy curtain of pickup trucks, pyrotechnics, and poorly cooked beef.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 05, 2022 03:40 AM (5oKCN)

Nice thoughts, but none of them will ever hear it. I wonder if they truly think most of the country is with them? They can't hear us, so maybe they think we won't do anything but go along with what they say.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 03:48 AM (7bRMQ)

502 Woke up early (going back to bed soon) worrying about lots of things. The terrible shooting in a Chicago suburb and catching a few minutes of news on NPR.
Pretty much of equal disturbing news either way. NPR of course is shit when reporting on Independence Day. How do they continue to exist is beyond me, but I can say the same of the rest of the shitty media.

Posted by: Colin at July 05, 2022 03:49 AM (YVx1O)

503 Oh my gosh, I have said this a million times and people think I'm crazy! Thank you!
Posted by: Moonbeam

A MILLION ?

Hiya Moonbeam !

Posted by: JT at July 05, 2022 03:54 AM (arJlL)

504 I always wanted to try a Chicago hot dog, but I never wanted to get shot.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 05, 2022 03:54 AM (0ocXn)

505 How do they continue to exist is beyond me, but I can say the same of the rest of the shitty media.

Posted by: Colin at July 05, 2022 03:49 AM (YVx1O)

The GOPe won't defund them.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 03:54 AM (7bRMQ)

506 Anyone using the word "equity" who isn't talking about financing real estate is to be immediately distrusted.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 05, 2022 03:57 AM (5oKCN)

507 No sleeping until 5:30 today

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2022 03:58 AM (2JoB8)

508 Mornin', all

Posted by: My Life is Insanity at July 05, 2022 03:59 AM (9P5HS)

509 Good morning to all!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 05, 2022 04:01 AM (c6xtn)

510 No sleeping until 5:30 today

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2022 03:58 AM (2JoB

A or P?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 04:01 AM (7bRMQ)

511 Good morning to all!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 05, 2022 04:01 AM (c6xtn)

Wolfus, how's the kitty? Pix for pet thread soon?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 04:02 AM (7bRMQ)

512 Hiya MLiiGRAM !

Posted by: JT at July 05, 2022 04:04 AM (arJlL)

513 Why are the Democrats always the party of mass shootings, killings and murder? Joe Biden, you own all of this shit on your watch. These are your people.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 05, 2022 04:04 AM (0ocXn)

514 Hey JT !

Posted by: My Life is Insanity at July 05, 2022 04:05 AM (9P5HS)

515 Why are the Democrats always the party of mass shootings, killings and murder? Joe Biden, you own all of this shit on your watch. These are your people.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 05, 2022 04:04 AM (0ocXn)

But yet, a good chunk of the people will believe the press that it's Trump's fault.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 04:05 AM (7bRMQ)

516
Wolfus, how's the kitty? Pix for pet thread soon?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022


***
Little Stirling is driving me nuts, as kittens do. He's here with me as I type. I sent 2 pics to KT for the Pet Thread and she posted one on last Saturday's thread.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 05, 2022 04:05 AM (c6xtn)

517 Little Stirling is driving me nuts, as kittens do. He's here with me as I type. I sent 2 pics to KT for the Pet Thread and she posted one on last Saturday's thread.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 05, 2022 04:05 AM (c6xtn)

Oh, musta missed it.

Btw, up to page 110 now, getting near the end.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 04:06 AM (7bRMQ)

518 I missed it too, Wolfus. Still trying to catch up.

Posted by: My Life is Insanity at July 05, 2022 04:09 AM (9P5HS)

519 There was a time, sad though it is to report, where I kind of looked forward to going to work for the entertainment and challenge. Since the Coof Hysteria and the Face Diaper Theatre, I've completely lost my respect for the place and would have retired by now if it weren't for the F. Joe Inflation and Insanity.

Simpler version: I wish I didn't have to go in today, or this week, or this month, or at all.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 05, 2022 04:09 AM (c6xtn)

520 Simpler version: I wish I didn't have to go in today, or this week, or this month, or at all.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 05, 2022 04:09 AM (c6xtn)

That said, at least you're getting paid.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 04:11 AM (7bRMQ)

521 Holy shit, Blue Oyster Cult is playing the Alameda County Fair on Thursday. Good thing I checked.

Posted by: SFGoth at July 05, 2022 04:11 AM (KAi1n)

522 I always wanted to try a Chicago hot dog, but I never wanted to get shot.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 05, 2022 03:54 AM (0ocXn)


That's one of us. No salad hiding a hot dog for me. I'm a traditionalist. Cheese, chili or hot dog onions (preferably homemade as not so runny), even sauerkraut will do fine. I don't even like West Virginia dogs that are topped with coleslaw but I like coleslaw on my shredded pork sammiches.

Posted by: RickZ at July 05, 2022 04:13 AM (ldL4g)

523 That's one of us. No salad hiding a hot dog for me. I'm a traditionalist. Cheese, chili or hot dog onions (preferably homemade as not so runny), even sauerkraut will do fine. I don't even like West Virginia dogs that are topped with coleslaw but I like coleslaw on my shredded pork sammiches.

Posted by: RickZ at July 05, 2022 04:13 AM (ldL4g)

What's wrong with just a plain dog with mayo, ketchup, and relish?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 04:15 AM (7bRMQ)

524 That said, at least you're getting paid.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022


***
And pretty darn well. That, plus my SS and the lack of big bills like a car note, is allowing me to put bucks away every month.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 05, 2022 04:17 AM (c6xtn)

525 BBC
https://tinyurl.com/3edr5rhr

It is the latest mass shooting to hit the US - there has been one in every week of 2022.

Posted by: m at July 05, 2022 04:19 AM (QPyqx)

526 And pretty darn well. That, plus my SS and the lack of big bills like a car note, is allowing me to put bucks away every month.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 05, 2022 04:17 AM (c6xtn)

We're staying afloat on her pay, I have almost two years still til ss is available.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 04:19 AM (7bRMQ)

527 Pixy's up, guess I'll sign off.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 04:23 AM (7bRMQ)

528 What's wrong with just a plain dog with mayo, ketchup, and relish?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 04:15 AM (7bRMQ)


Everything?

Posted by: RickZ at July 05, 2022 04:23 AM (ldL4g)

529 Well, I'll stagger through the day, hit the Dollar Tree for a couple of things on the way home, and enjoy a couple episodes of Buffy the Vampire Slayer with dinner. Such is the excitement in my life. No real highs, no real lows.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at July 05, 2022 04:23 AM (c6xtn)

530 Pixy's up!

Posted by: m at July 05, 2022 04:23 AM (QPyqx)

531 Everything?

Posted by: RickZ at July 05, 2022 04:23 AM (ldL4g)

How about okra?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 04:24 AM (7bRMQ)

532 m that's my line

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2022 04:24 AM (2JoB8)

533 m that's my line

Posted by: Skip at July 05, 2022 04:24 AM (2JoB

Are you Kitty, Bill, Peggy, or Bennett?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 04:25 AM (7bRMQ)

534 >>>What's wrong with just a plain dog with mayo, ketchup, and relish?

Posted by: OrangeEnt

>WTF? Where are you from, Mississippi? Somebody from Mississippi tell me about those fucking hotdogs in Mississippi!

/s [I don't get a chance to spell Mississippi often]

Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 05, 2022 04:27 AM (0ocXn)

535
>WTF? Where are you from, Mississippi? Somebody from Mississippi tell me about those fucking hotdogs in Mississippi!

/s [I don't get a chance to spell Mississippi often]

Posted by: Dr. Bone at July 05, 2022 04:27 AM (0ocXn)

Nope, never been to Mississippi. I've spelled it a lot lately, that's a character's name in my novella.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at July 05, 2022 04:29 AM (7bRMQ)

536 I am making $92 an hour working from home. i was greatly surprised at the same time as my neighbour advised me she changed into averaging $ninety five however I see the way it works now. I experience mass freedom now that I'm my non-public boss.
That is what I do... www.salarycash1.com

Posted by: Sarah at July 05, 2022 09:56 AM (6wNUt)

537 Cheney complains Trump is dangerous; but her dad shot a friend in the face...

Posted by: setnaffa at July 05, 2022 11:35 AM (ud6pL)

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