"Wow:" McConnell Will Support the Gun Control "Compromise" Reached by Democrats and the Liberal Fake Republicans

A couple of weeks ago, the leftwing grifter Allahpundit attacked actual conservatives for resisting gun control efforts, and called their own proposals -- involving arming guards and teachers and hardening schools -- "unserious."

What would be "serious" measures, Allahpundit? He was too cowardly and too shifty to say. Of course, it could not be missed that he was hinting very, very strongly that he was on board with the full panoply of leftwing gun control measures, but he remains a coward even as he calls for "courage" from "patriot-minded conservatives."

He doesn't want to lose his grifter job. He has no other skills and is not suitable for any other form of semi-employment. He cannot just come out and say "I'm a hard-left agitator now."

So it's always hints and innuendoes. He can attack conservatives for what they want... but he doesn't yet have the guts to admit what he wants, which is the standard Affluent White Female Liberal leftwing social agenda on guns, abortion, everything.

Oh, I guess he sure showed his AWFL stripes on masks and lockdowns and forced vaccinations, huh?

Baby steps.

But now Mitch McConnell has embraced his favored position of gun control -- oh wait, Allahpundit spun this not as gun control, which he says the Republicans are too cowardly to agree to, but mere "lunatic control" -- and so Allah feels emboldned to show a little skin and embrace this leftwing position a little more openly.

Does this deserve a "wow"?
It feels like a "wow." The Senate hasn't passed a gun bill in almost 30 years. Now here's the most powerful Republican in Congress giving it his seal of approval.

But I'm not sure it's a "wow." Look at it this way: Is there any real downside to McConnell and the Senate GOP in supporting this deal?

What's the downside? That some gun-rights supporters on the right, like Tucker Carlson, will be mad?
However mad they are, I promise they're not mad enough to affect the midterm calculus. The political climate is so horrifically bad for Democrats that a red tsunami is on the way whether or not this bill passes. It's a free play for the GOP.
And McConnell personally has nothing to lose. He's used to being a hate object for the populist base; I think he enjoys flouting them, frankly. Besides, he doesn't face voters again until 2026 and may well retire rather than do so. By coming out in favor of the gun deal early, he can serve as a lightning rod for other members of his caucus who might want to support the bill but fear a backlash in conservative media. Now that Fox primetime and talk radio have McConnell to yell at, the other Republicans in favor will go largely overlooked.
Now, consider the upsides. Democrats have been screeching for years that Republicans refuse to Do Something on gun violence, supposedly too frightened of the NRA to act for the country's benefit. Suddenly the GOP has an easy retort: "We backed the deal between John Cornyn and Chris Murphy, didn't we?" Righties can no longer be accused of paralysis after mass shootings.

Another upside: One of the two key planks of the deal, adding juvenile offenses to the federal background check system, is completely uncontroversial. Obviously kids who committed dangerous crimes when they were minors shouldn't be able to buy guns when they turn 18. Even Dan Crenshaw supports that provision despite opposing practically every other form of restricting gun access.

Yes, True Conservative: "Even Dan Crenshaw" supports this, and all of us conservatives trust Dan Crenshaw on gun control.

He really gets conservatives, huh? I think we've found the Washington Post's next Conservative Correspondent.

All the Salon Hot 25 conservatives -- almost all employed by The Dispatch, The Bulwark, and The Atlantic and of course Salem Media -- will be high-fiving each other at the Meeting of The Concerned tonight.

Is it time to get rid of Mitch McConnell or do we have to go through another round of "But judges"?

Mitch McConnell announces support for bipartisan Senate gun deal pic.twitter.com/K2BRsYE7gq
— JM Rieger (@RiegerReport) June 14, 2022

Posted by: Ace at 04:35 PM

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1 Sponge!

Posted by: Bete at June 14, 2022 04:37 PM (F9322)

2 It's turtle all the way down

Posted by: NCKate at June 14, 2022 04:37 PM (2oJif)

3 I hate Bitch McConnell.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 14, 2022 04:37 PM (QSjkU)

4 Donate today to stop the radical Dem agenda!

-GoPe

Posted by: Bete at June 14, 2022 04:37 PM (F9322)

5 Prepare to be absorbed by the blob.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 14, 2022 04:37 PM (jTmQV)

6 My buddies didn't die face down in the mud so this whore, this strumpet, could sell us out!

Posted by: Walter Sobchak at June 14, 2022 04:38 PM (wKtwp)

7 Hawley -- insert poison pen amendment that will peel off a few Donks or GOPe's and sabotage 60-vote cloture.

Posted by: Greyman27 at June 14, 2022 04:38 PM (RKLPC)

8 They don't care - they're set for life.

I still think that at the end of their public 'service', the residents of the state they represent should vote on whether they get to keep their generous pensions. It might help them focus more on the needs of their constituents.

Posted by: 496 at June 14, 2022 04:38 PM (VJsqe)

9 Can't wait for the Repukes to be in charge of selling us out to their masters, rather than being sold to the Donk masters.

Posted by: Bete at June 14, 2022 04:38 PM (F9322)

10 Bastard made a big deal of waving a kentucky long rifle around at an NRA convention a decade ago.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at June 14, 2022 04:39 PM (L9qzu)

11 If this goes through I won't bother voting. All they had to do was hang tough for six more fricking months, and we could have gotten a bill that actually protected schools. What is the point of voting for these idiots? Clearly having a GOP House and/or Senate just doesn't matter.

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at June 14, 2022 04:39 PM (rWFyW)

12 I am loving the way Ace is crushing the stuffing out of Allahpundit and rubbing his nose in his own foul fluids.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 14, 2022 04:39 PM (QSjkU)

13 I was willowed, but I thought the SCOTUS already ruled that red flag laws are unconstitutional ?

Posted by: It's me donna at June 14, 2022 04:39 PM (bs+z0)

14 Crenshaw has shown a temper. Someone should red flag him to keep him from going off.

Posted by: Bete at June 14, 2022 04:39 PM (F9322)

15 Ah the we met Democrats 90% of the way argument from AP.

Posted by: WiNO at June 14, 2022 04:40 PM (eUT01)

16 Well Mitch IS a reptile, after all.

Posted by: kraken at June 14, 2022 04:40 PM (Vr12I)

17 Oh, and four of the ten GOPs surrender monkeys aren't running for re-election. Retiring to whichever K Street influence outfit pays the most for the least "work."

Posted by: Greyman27 at June 14, 2022 04:40 PM (RKLPC)

18 We'll see about "but the judges!" when SCOTUS rules on NYSPRA - pistol permit case.

I have a feeling that current events, along with threats on their lives - that SCOTUS judges are going to chicken out to "save the institution of SCOTUS a la Roberts".

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 14, 2022 04:40 PM (N39Ws)

19 Agree to whatever you want, Skippy, but I am keeping my firearms.

And why do you want me to get raped?

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at June 14, 2022 04:40 PM (EHSip)

20 "Hot Air provides news analysis and commentary from a conservative perspective."

They fear their own commenters.

LOL

Posted by: Simon at June 14, 2022 04:40 PM (gtKRu)

21 One of the two key planks of the deal, adding juvenile offenses to the federal background check system, is completely uncontroversial.

What is the other part?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 14, 2022 04:40 PM (/NCI4)

22 I will never vote for incumbents. Never again.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at June 14, 2022 04:40 PM (E+jR2)

23 If Mitch was starving, I wouldn't let him eat one of my turds

fuckin hate that asshole

Posted by: REDACTED at June 14, 2022 04:40 PM (us2H3)

24 Is it time to get rid of Mitch McConnell or do we have to go through another round of "But judges"?

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Tell the people of KY to vote for the Democrat next time, assuming he decides to run again in *checks notes* 2026.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 04:41 PM (LvTSG)

25 We need an organization that does nothing but protest outside the homes of douchebags like McConnell and the Prancing Dandy form South Carolina.

Posted by: Dr Spank at June 14, 2022 04:41 PM (ANH3w)

26 I will endeavor to vote harder.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at June 14, 2022 04:41 PM (nByzo)

27 So, are the then going to change the law which seals Juvenile records once you turn 18? Because without changing THAT law... that part of this law is meaningless.

Oh, and this incentivizes States to do Red Flag Laws... which is a non starter for most of us...

this is just another case of the GOPe selling its own voters down the river.... again...

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 14, 2022 04:41 PM (oHd/0)

28 The only shock is people are shocked. McConnell is so confident that he is pre-fucking the base. Conservatives need to boycott ALL Senate elections, full stop.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 14, 2022 04:41 PM (AKQCJ)

29 Mitch McConnell announces support for bipartisan Senate gun deal

The state of KY should immediately launch a recall effort.

Yes, yes the federal courts will save him. Force them to. And do this for every Chinese controlled GOPer from a red state. And do it weekly. Fill the SC with cases on this.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 14, 2022 04:41 PM (ESjRY)

30 Thank you nip sip for flogging for tillis

Posted by: NCKate at June 14, 2022 04:41 PM (2oJif)

31 The bill is 90 percent a $$ handout to favored constituencies and 10 percent a toehold that will let them grab the guns of everyone who dares to protest against their government.

Posted by: LASue, occasional thought leader at June 14, 2022 04:41 PM (Ed8Zd)

32 21 One of the two key planks of the deal, adding juvenile offenses to the federal background check system, is completely uncontroversial.

What is the other part?
Posted by: Archimedes at June 14, 2022 04:40 PM (/NCI4)

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Funds for states to implement red flag laws.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 04:41 PM (LvTSG)

33 One of the two key planks of the deal, adding juvenile offenses to the federal background check system, is completely uncontroversial.

What is the other part?
Posted by: Archimedes

Red flag laws.

And you thought SWAT'ing was a big deal.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at June 14, 2022 04:41 PM (E+jR2)

34 Cavuto has Kinzinger on his show.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 14, 2022 04:41 PM (63Dwl)

35 Well, this will work perfectly fine and save our good friends in the republican party who are always looking out for us because as we all know when you give the left what they want they stop and say, "Hey thanks I guess we're done and we can all go home now".

Posted by: banana Dream at June 14, 2022 04:41 PM (vLfRn)

36 4 Donate today to stop the radical Dem agenda!

-GoPe
Posted by: Bete

You forgot to add 'Good Day, Patriot!'.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 14, 2022 04:41 PM (sAmhv)

37 I think it's pretty clear McConnell isn't going to run again. Why would he?

Posted by: Archimedes at June 14, 2022 04:41 PM (/NCI4)

38 Anti-2nd Amendment Laws.

Another reason to abolish the federales.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 14, 2022 04:41 PM (pbYrN)

39 There is no logic here. If the GOP is going to win big, why reduce it by supporting this garbage?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 14, 2022 04:42 PM (lTGtQ)

40 Once again I have to remind everybody that the problem with having the GOP on your side is that you have the GOP on your side.

Posted by: Azathoth at June 14, 2022 04:42 PM (wb1YC)

41 coincidentally (I'm sure) Salem Media just implemented a "paid commenting" system for Hot Air and their other sites (except Insty for now) so if you want to rag on Allah in the comments you're gonna have to PAY to do that

not sure how we can manage negative traffic to Hot Air but it should be a goal

Posted by: BlackOrchidOfDerp at June 14, 2022 04:42 PM (w0NJk)

42 25 We need an organization that does nothing but protest outside the homes of douchebags like McConnell and the Prancing Dandy form South Carolina.
Posted by: Dr Spank at June 14, 2022 04:41 PM (ANH3w)

Can't be done... it would be a bunch of White peepo... so it would be an insurrection.

Posted by: Romeo13 at June 14, 2022 04:42 PM (oHd/0)

43 13 I was willowed, but I thought the SCOTUS already ruled that red flag laws are unconstitutional ?
Posted by: It's me donna at June 14, 2022 04:39 PM (bs+z0)

Don't think it was a ruling on "Red Flag" laws, but on the age restriction of someone buying a rifle. In Kommiefornia you had to be 21. Everywhere else was 18. SCOTUS said no to CA. Yet New York just did the age of 21 requirement in full rebellion.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 14, 2022 04:42 PM (N39Ws)

44 27 Oh, and this incentivizes States to do Red Flag Laws... which is a non starter for most of us...

this is just another case of the GOPe selling its own voters down the river.... again...
Posted by: Romeo13 at June 14, 2022 04:41 PM (oHd/0)

=========

Why winning at the state level is more important than the federal level.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 04:42 PM (LvTSG)

45 Didn't vote for any of the usual suspects today. Primary votes went to the ones who aren't GOPe, but I don't think it will make any difference in my area.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 14, 2022 04:42 PM (7bRMQ)

46 Has anyone published the actual language of the bill? I can't seem to find anything but "reports" of what is contained in the bill.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 14, 2022 04:42 PM (bVYXr)

47 There we go, Red Flag laws are coming.
Oh never against a criminal mind you

Posted by: Skip at June 14, 2022 04:42 PM (2JoB8)

48 Ace, this post is disturbing. Im calling for a red flag against you.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 14, 2022 04:42 PM (26tlC)

49 The NRA Baba Yaga once killed three guys in a bar... with a pencil! A fucking pencil!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 14, 2022 04:42 PM (BP3/z)

50 WTF, Mitch?
I swear he's just rubbing our nose in it now.. I mean who do you serve you pof?

Posted by: Inogame at June 14, 2022 04:42 PM (53oGX)

51 Honestly, IF we are going to have background checks, the sealing of juvenile records is stupid.

I have zero objection to addressing this, and I'm about as rightward on gun rights as I can be.

Encouraging red flag laws is pernicious, though.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 14, 2022 04:42 PM (N1tpc)

52 You forgot to add 'Good Day, Patriot!'.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 14, 2022 04:41 PM (sAmhv)

"Friend" is also acceptable.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at June 14, 2022 04:42 PM (TNyrE)

53 The political climate is so horrifically bad for Democrats that a red tsunami is on the way whether or not this bill passes. It's a free play for the GOP.

This is how insane all this is...

You are going to win even if you give the left NOTHING. So quick...give them EVERYTHING.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 14, 2022 04:42 PM (ESjRY)

54 Now, consider the upsides. Democrats have been screeching for years that Republicans refuse to Do Something on gun violence, ...

Another upside: One of the two key planks of the deal, adding juvenile offenses to the federal background check system, is completely uncontroversial.
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The third upside: they're playing for the Democrats and have been for decades and so will bail them out of this one. Gun Control is the Democrat version of failure theater until it would be *really* inconvenient for them to fail - in which case the GOP will come white knight for them again.

And why not? This will probably not cause them to see meaningfully worse numbers in November because the Dems have fucked up so catastrophically in every dimension. It will cost them nothing to help their ~~buddies~~ team captains out.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2022 04:43 PM (0zQHa)

55 Mitch is close to the end of his life, his progeny is setup well for the oligarchy. What the hell does he care anymore?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 14, 2022 04:43 PM (fs1hN)

56 Mitch has done nothing WRT judges that any majority or minority leader would have done/has done since forever. This "but judges" nonsense is pure illiteracy on Senate practice.

Oh - and enjoy your "red tsunami".

Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2022 04:43 PM (OTzUX)

57 Mitch and his wife Elaine Chao are both owned by the CCP as well. Documented previously in books written in the last few years.

True f*cking evil people.

At least change your party designation to the D(avos-CCP) party, Mitch.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 14, 2022 04:43 PM (sy5kK)

58 Yes, True Conservative: "Even Dan Crenshaw" supports this, and all of us conservatives trust Dan Crenshaw on gun control.

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"Isn't it time to red-flag and fully disarm all American-born males with two eyes?"

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at June 14, 2022 04:43 PM (CLqJa)

59 coincidentally (I'm sure) Salem Media just implemented a "paid commenting" system for Hot Air and their other sites (except Insty for now) so if you want to rag on Allah in the comments you're gonna have to PAY to do that
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That's probably the one thing people would pay for.

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 04:43 PM (OaZlZ)

60 >>> If Mitch was starving, I wouldn't let him eat one of my turds

fuckin hate that asshole
Posted by: REDACTED at June 14, 2022 04:40 PM (us2H3)

Does he like avocados?

Posted by: Beta O'Rourke at June 14, 2022 04:43 PM (vLfRn)

61 Happy Birthday President Trump!

(via Posobiec)

https://tinyurl.com/yaf7rr77

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at June 14, 2022 04:43 PM (nHKOj)

62 "Bipartisan" always means we are getting screwed.

Posted by: fd at June 14, 2022 04:44 PM (vrz2I)

63 People are digging up Mitch's fundraising tweets from when the old queen was pretending to support the 2nd Amendment.

https://bit.ly/3QhldE9
https://bit.ly/3QfLCCd

Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 04:44 PM (kDGvA)

64 I don't care what is in the bill, the problem is, the left will never stop. Just like the palestinians, it is only a stop on the way to getting 150% of what they want.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 14, 2022 04:44 PM (Irn0L)

65
Can't be done... it would be a bunch of White peepo... so it would be an insurrection.

The feds just arrested a bunch of people for planning to protest a gay pride event in Idaho

I suspect they'd do the same thing with a protest at Bitch McConnell's house.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 14, 2022 04:44 PM (ESjRY)

66 Yes, True Conservative: "Even Dan Crenshaw" supports this, and all of us conservatives trust Dan Crenshaw on gun control.
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Crenshaw's support of red flag laws was such a, well, red flag that I started actively disliking him in that moment.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2022 04:44 PM (0zQHa)

67 However mad they are, I promise they're not mad enough to affect the midterm calculus.

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AP is an idiot, but this is correct. Nothing the GOP does is enough to get its voters to #WalkAway. As long as Democrats exist, they are safe no matter what they do.

The Senate could vote unanimously to pass a law requiring all students to be shot directly after transgender surgeries, and every GOP incumbent would have the full support of the base.

All that ever matters is turnout, which will be extra low for Dems this year. The GOP can and will do as it pleases. And if you think disarming the wretched peasants isn't on their own wish-list, then I have bad news for you.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 14, 2022 04:44 PM (ZRrE6)

68 Duh, it was always time to get rid of McConnell.

Posted by: Kustie The Klown at June 14, 2022 04:44 PM (04j/N)

69 There is no logic here. If the GOP is going to win big, why reduce it by supporting this garbage?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 14, 2022 04:42 PM (lTGtQ)

By being in charge, they would have to vote on things that they promised their base, like repealing obamacare, and look stupid not delivering.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at June 14, 2022 04:44 PM (nByzo)

70 Hello? My brother voted for Trump and I THINK HE'S GOT GUNS!!!

Posted by: wth's brother at June 14, 2022 04:44 PM (v0R5T)

71 Arsonists attack Washington state House Republican office

https://bit.ly/3xuyRuJ

Has anyone heard a peep about this?

Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 04:45 PM (kDGvA)

72 33
Red flag laws.

And you thought SWAT'ing was a big deal.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at June 14, 2022 04:41 PM (E+jR2)

Anybody here want the people who want us dead determining if you should be "red flagged"? You think they'll stop with mental illness? And not consider right wing constitutionalist thinking as a mental disease?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 14, 2022 04:45 PM (N39Ws)

73 More people died from fists and swinging objects than guns last year.

Ban fists!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 14, 2022 04:45 PM (sy5kK)

74 There are no upsides to any compromise on the 2A.

Posted by: fd at June 14, 2022 04:45 PM (vrz2I)

75 Vote
Incumbents
Out

Posted by: Diogenes at June 14, 2022 04:45 PM (anj39)

76 They fear their own commenters.

They don't. They fear running out of money.

Posted by: Ian S. at June 14, 2022 04:45 PM (ZGrMX)

77 Ban fists!

You'll take that fist out of my ass from my cold dead cheeks.

Posted by: Lindsay Graham at June 14, 2022 04:45 PM (ESjRY)

78 What is the point of you, Republicans?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 14, 2022 04:45 PM (yQpMk)

79 69 There is no logic here. If the GOP is going to win big, why reduce it by supporting this garbage?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 14, 2022 04:42 PM (lTGtQ)

Well they've done the polling and the sheeple want red flag laws... problem is they don't have a clue what a red flag law does

Posted by: It's me donna at June 14, 2022 04:46 PM (bs+z0)

80 I'm red fagging Kidzinger

he is completely outta of his mind

Posted by: REDACTED at June 14, 2022 04:46 PM (us2H3)

81 Due Process before seizing your property, your natural rights, even you yourself is just not common sense! The government needs to seize this power.

We hope you understand, so we don't have to shoot you.

Posted by: Mitch McConnell, your gay friend at June 14, 2022 04:46 PM (nHKOj)

82 Mitch McConnell has done exactly ONE useful thing in my recollection: stopping Obama's moderate Merrick Garland from being voted on as Scalia's replacement. I can't recall a single other thing of import that was due to his leadership. He shat all over Trump, when the attacks were worse than spurious, and he sat on his hands as democrats ran roughshod over the Constitution and the pathetic citizenry that still believes in its efficacy.

I don't even own a gun (yet) and this is enough to have me wishing monkeypox on the old waddle-neck.

Posted by: red speck at June 14, 2022 04:46 PM (gS3OW)

83 You are going to win even if you give the left NOTHING. So quick...give them EVERYTHING.
Posted by: 18-1

They can't wait six freaking months until January, and come up with a bill we like? Unless they WANT to take our guns from us, and figure they can screw us if they want, the red wave will be so big they don't need us. I am not voting at all if this goes through, red flag laws get abused by ex spouses all the time -- imagine a left wing govt agency administering red flag laws.

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at June 14, 2022 04:46 PM (rWFyW)

84 What is the point of you, Republicans?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 14, 2022 04:45 PM (yQpMk)
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And people wonder why I don't bother with "in name only" anymore.

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 04:46 PM (OaZlZ)

85 46. There is no bill yet. What was released was a framework agreed to by this group of Senators. Talking points. The various lobbyists for each side will get involved along with two hundred lawyers and nothing will get done over the summer. And none of these brave lawmakers will want to vote on what bill actually ends up presented before the midterms.

Posted by: Jen the original at June 14, 2022 04:46 PM (M4TE3)

86 Has anyone published the actual language of the bill? I can't seem to find anything but "reports" of what is contained in the bill.

We won't know what's in it until they pass it. Sound familiar?

Posted by: Jewells45 at June 14, 2022 04:46 PM (nxdel)

87 Another upside: One of the two key planks of the deal, adding juvenile offenses to the federal background check system, is completely uncontroversial.
_________

So without reading it, I'm guessing that the other key plank in the deal is something that is not only very controversial, but probably also unconstitutional as well?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at June 14, 2022 04:46 PM (MvHI3)

88 The time to dump Bitch was 5 years ago.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 14, 2022 04:46 PM (qEU+b)

89 There is no logic here. If the GOP is going to win big, why reduce it by supporting this garbage?

Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 14, 2022 04:42 PM (lTGtQ)

Because they THINK they'll win big, they figure they have some political capital they can burn and still clean up in the fall. What are people like us going to do - vote Dem? That is why they'll do stuff like this.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 14, 2022 04:46 PM (N39Ws)

90 In other news, boating enthusiasts report a dramatic increase in canoe accidents.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 14, 2022 04:47 PM (anj39)

91 Florida has red flag laws already. From what I read about 8000 people a year are getting their guns taken away. And all for prety bullshit reasons. One example was a guy telling his co workers Im going to kill you all as a joke after someone pulled a prank on him.

And thats Florida. Imagine what will happen in CA or NY.

The gop is pure garbage.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 14, 2022 04:47 PM (26tlC)

92 Remember, it is untoward to suggest voting third party, especially in safe races.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 04:47 PM (LvTSG)

93 What benefit is this to the Red Chinese?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) ponders at June 14, 2022 04:47 PM (yQpMk)

94 88 The time to dump Bitch was 5 years ago.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 14, 2022 04:46 PM (qEU+b)

Don't forget Trump put Mitch's wife in as Secretary of Transportation.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 14, 2022 04:47 PM (N39Ws)

95 You can't own guns if you own nothing (while eating bugs). So time to get people accustomed to that.

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 04:47 PM (OaZlZ)

96 Has anyone published the actual language of the bill? I can't seem to find anything but "reports" of what is contained in the bill.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 14, 2022 04:42 PM (bVYXr)
.........

probably another $40 billion for Ukraine.

Posted by: wth's brother at June 14, 2022 04:47 PM (v0R5T)

97 The gop is pure garbage.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 14, 2022 04:47 PM

This can be said on every post and be perfectly appropriate.

Posted by: Formerly Virginian at June 14, 2022 04:47 PM (N1tpc)

98 39 There is no logic here. If the GOP is going to win big, why reduce it by supporting this garbage?
Posted by: Thomas Paine at June 14, 2022 04:42 PM (lTGtQ)

Spoiler: Because they don't want to win as they hate their base and don't want to do anything they claim to other than corporate tax cuts.

Posted by: Bete at June 14, 2022 04:48 PM (F9322)

99 In Kiev you can get weapons right out of the shipping box, on the street, no charge.
Whatever you want, rifles, grenades.
I understand ammo is short, tho'.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 14, 2022 04:48 PM (jTmQV)

100 96 Has anyone published the actual language of the bill? I can't seem to find anything but "reports" of what is contained in the bill.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 14, 2022 04:42 PM (bVYXr)

========

There is no bill yet.

There is a framework.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 04:48 PM (LvTSG)

101 Why is that one dumbass wearing a mask?

Posted by: Diogenes at June 14, 2022 04:48 PM (anj39)

102 The gop is pure garbage.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 14, 2022 04:47 PM
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In name only.

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 04:48 PM (OaZlZ)

103
The feds just arrested a bunch of people for planning to protest a gay pride event in Idaho

I suspect they'd do the same thing with a protest at Bitch McConnell's house.
Posted by: 18-1

And you would be RED FLAGGED.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 14, 2022 04:48 PM (63Dwl)

104 Cavuto has Kinzinger on his show.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 14, 2022 04:41 PM (63Dwl)

Not sure anyone can see Kinzinger under Cavuto's desk like that...giving the fat giggler one really big show.

Posted by: Boswell at June 14, 2022 04:48 PM (5iUNf)

105 The Hattrick would be if BLACK CUCK COFFEE was all for this.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 14, 2022 04:48 PM (dKiJG)

106 The Grand Lame Old Party: GLOP.

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 04:49 PM (OaZlZ)

107 >>>You think they'll stop with mental illness? And not consider right wing constitutionalist thinking as a mental disease?

>What about phony domestic violence? And insane restraining orders? But it's okay to shit the bed.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 14, 2022 04:49 PM (BP3/z)

108 This is a giant F you to the base. They know you're going to largely vote for them in the midterms. They truly believe you have no choice. Get ready for years of this "in your face, peasants" type of legislating if they do gain a majority. Nanny Republicans are making a comeback along with the senate Vichy Wing.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 14, 2022 04:49 PM (ABRT6)

109 78 What is the point of you, Republicans?
Posted by: G'rump928(c)

Those gimp suits aren't going to wear themselves.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 14, 2022 04:49 PM (sAmhv)

110 meh. all talk. happy sound bites for npr and nyt.
a week or two of invites to the better parties in DC ...
my bet is that, come to the crunch, it will fail.
rank & file know they are doomed if they contribute to passing this.

but wtf do i know, anyway ?

*spits*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - ultra maga ftw ! at June 14, 2022 04:49 PM (QkMYt)

111 102 The gop is pure garbage.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 14, 2022 04:47 PM
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yeah, fuck you

Posted by: Trash at June 14, 2022 04:49 PM (us2H3)

112 46 Has anyone published the actual language of the bill? I can't seem to find anything but "reports" of what is contained in the bill.
_________________________

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That's funny! Everyone knows that the "lawmakers" agree on the parameters of the new law, but the actual law is crammed together at the last minute right before the vote by the most left wing staffers and lobbyists from both parties and no one actually reads the final bill before voting on a law that has carve-outs to protect them from whatever hell awaits the citizens of Panem in the details of the final bill.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 14, 2022 04:49 PM (fs1hN)

113
Fire crotch>red tsunami

Posted by: Burning Bush at June 14, 2022 04:50 PM (5BQRz)

114 , The ratchet makes another click to the Left.

Posted by: JM in Florida at June 14, 2022 04:50 PM (hsIpI)

115
In Kiev you can get weapons right out of the shipping box, on the street, no charge.
Whatever you want, rifles, grenades.
I understand ammo is short, tho'.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 14, 2022 04:48 PM (jTmQV)

There is absolutely no way the G-d-blessed, cute adorable Ukrainians would *ever* be corrupt or possibly loot any of these shipments for sale on the black market.

Ever.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 14, 2022 04:50 PM (ZRrE6)

116 What evidence is there that would calm gun owners' worries that democrats would never abuse red-flag laws against their enemies? If the Attorney Fucking General can call a parent who attends School Committee meetings a "domestic terrorist," what on God's green Earth would stop him from stomping your rights to self-defense?

Posted by: red speck at June 14, 2022 04:50 PM (gS3OW)

117 >>> Another upside: One of the two key planks of the deal, adding juvenile offenses to the federal background check system, is completely uncontroversial.
_________

So without reading it, I'm guessing that the other key plank in the deal is something that is not only very controversial, but probably also unconstitutional as well?
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at June 14, 2022 04:46 PM (MvHI3)

One of the key planks of the Nazis, snappy dressing, was uncontroversial.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 14, 2022 04:50 PM (vLfRn)

118 eff da GOP

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 14, 2022 04:50 PM (kf6Ak)

119 The Democrats are about to get a once in a lifetime ass pounding and their president has an approval rating lower than hitting your shin on a trailer hitch so of course this is a perfect time for the Republicans to do a bipartisan deal with the Democrats because nothing makes the average Republican want to touch his no no spot like the word 'bipartisan'.

This was a great chance to tell the Democrats to go f*** themselves but as usual the GOP has to make sure the usual crowd of RINO rent boys get to see their name on Twitter alongside Democrats.

Posted by: Azathoth at June 14, 2022 04:50 PM (wb1YC)

120 I hear you but Mitch isn't that bad.

BTW, did you catch my act in the hearings today? I really brought some heat. If we win back the Senate, I'm going to bring even more heat.

Posted by: Ted Cruz at June 14, 2022 04:50 PM (qH6FZ)

121 Listen to how many times you here the word "negotiated". Negotiation is give and take. What were we given in exchange for the additional ground we are giving up? National CCW reciprocity? Anybody? Anything? Bueller?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 14, 2022 04:51 PM (N39Ws)

122 I'm red fagging Kidzinger

he is completely outta of his mind
Posted by: REDACTED at June 14, 2022 04:46 PM (us2H3)
.........

crying all the time is a sign of severe depression

Posted by: wth at June 14, 2022 04:51 PM (v0R5T)

123 Its long past time to get rid of Mitch McConnell.

Posted by: Revenant at June 14, 2022 04:51 PM (NJXJJ)

124 I quit following HotAir because of KarenPundit. What an embarrassment he is.

Posted by: Eternity Matters at June 14, 2022 04:51 PM (MTm8X)

125 104 Cavuto has Kinzinger on his show.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 14, 2022 04:41 PM (63Dwl)

Baier and Cavuto's bookers

"do you really hate Trump ?"

OK, you've got a spot

Posted by: Trash at June 14, 2022 04:51 PM (us2H3)

126 I want the nut houses reopened. If you can't be trusted with a rifle, you also can't be trusted with a car, or a can of gasoline.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at June 14, 2022 04:51 PM (euFBE)

127 "The feds just arrested a bunch of people for planning to protest a gay pride event in Idaho"
_____________

I want to see someone follow up with these arrests, give us the mugshots, charges, plea deals. Tell us who these people are and what sentences they receive.

Posted by: BuckIV at June 14, 2022 04:51 PM (CLfqv)

128 McConnell is the one (Senate Majority Leader at the time) who "colluded" with Pelosi in not securing the Capitol on J6.
He was leading the sabotage of Trump from the beginning -- blocking spending on the Wall, speaking out on how "credible" and "necessary" the Mueller investigation was into the dossier THEY ALL KNEW WAS FAKE.

He is the one that gave the signal that Dems could flagrantly violate election laws, flood swing states with mail in ballots and be given extra days *after* the election to count ballots.

He was one of the loudest voices claiming J6 was an insurrection to sic FBI on Trump's supporters and to put DC under military occupation to swear Biden in.

And he helped facilitate Biden's $1.6 T "America Rescue Plan" as well as the insane amount of money to Ukraine (funny how the Senate acted in less than a day to give $40 BILLION to that corrupt shithole while there isn't a word about our southern border).

The time for Mitch to go was 20 years ago.

Posted by: Ultra MAGA Venus at June 14, 2022 04:51 PM (YVBLw)

129 You don't need an AR15 to hunt bugs

Posted by: Doyle Hargrave at June 14, 2022 04:51 PM (2cfUo)

130 "46 Has anyone published the actual language of the bill? I can't seem to find anything but "reports" of what is contained in the bill.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 14, 2022 04:42 PM (bVYXr) "

afaik, there is no bill yet, just a bunch ot proposals & negotiations.

(i.e. featherbedding on the expense accounts; can't negotiate on an empty stomach in some dryasdust conference room, that's for the lower orders)

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - ultra maga ftw ! at June 14, 2022 04:52 PM (QkMYt)

131 To be crude even for me, this is just shitting in the mouths of all of us who have sucked it up and voted GOP for decades

And so help me, if the play is hey no biggie the courts will strike these down? Extra chupacabas for extra thunderfucking.

Posted by: alexthechick at June 14, 2022 04:52 PM (OLecJ)

132
This is a giant F you to the base. They know you're going to largely vote for them in the midterms. They truly believe you have no choice. Get ready for years of this "in your face, peasants" type of legislating if they do gain a majority. Nanny Republicans are making a comeback along with the senate Vichy Wing.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 14, 2022 04:49 PM (ABRT6)

After 2015-2020, they are absolutely correct in their assessment.

If that didn't cure the base of their self-deluded kneejerk loyalty, nothing can.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 14, 2022 04:52 PM (ZRrE6)

133 Caniglia basically outlawed and rendered unconstitutional most of the Red Flag Laws. By funding those laws, Republicans put their imprimatur on unconstitutional fiats and put it back out to the states and courts for abuse. It will take years for these cases to once again reach SCOTUS so they can say- "what wasn't clear?"

Posted by: Marcus T at June 14, 2022 04:52 PM (ABRT6)

134 I've been suffering from a chronic case of Battered Conservative Syndrome lasting longer than four decades. Is it time to call a doctor? Muldoon? What's the ICD-10 Code?

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at June 14, 2022 04:52 PM (CLqJa)

135 >>> There is absolutely no way the G-d-blessed, cute adorable Ukrainians would *ever* be corrupt or possibly loot any of these shipments for sale on the black market.

Ever.
Posted by: Yudhishthira
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That's an exclusive right reserved only to Ukrainians.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 14, 2022 04:52 PM (utM8c)

136 wonder if Kidzinger cries when his wife cucks him ??

and

can you suck cock and cry at the same time ?

Posted by: REDACTED at June 14, 2022 04:52 PM (us2H3)

137 Fox has Kinzinger on?

Thank heavens I don't watch Fox; I'd have to turn it off, in anger.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at June 14, 2022 04:53 PM (nHKOj)

138 Word is, McConnel would have and should have lost his election in 2020, mostly because he's so hated by the so-called conservative voters of his state. But Cocaine Mitch has his own voter fraud operation in place.

Another reason these people don't want the election looked into, and want you people to shut up about stolen elections and all that.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2022 04:53 PM (YV6PJ)

139 One of the key planks of the aliens from Independence Day, cool-looking spaceships, was uncontroversial.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 14, 2022 04:53 PM (vLfRn)

140 There is no bill yet.

There is a framework.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 04:48 PM

Ah, OK then. Everyone is hitting the fainting couches over something that has not even been written yet.

I was worried I missed something about the red flag laws that had already been written into an actual bill by the Senate.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 14, 2022 04:53 PM (bVYXr)

141 It's an absolutely brilliant move not because of politics; you already have morons like AOC (the true leader) squawking that suggesting any kind of look into permanent records is a sign of racism. The Republicans will be able to publicly go out and say "We tried to pass some gun reforms but the Dems just wouldn't accept even this compromise".

It's yet another nail in the Dems coffin

Now do I believe red flags would be USEFUL, sure. Keeping human filth like in Uvalde and in Broward county from getting guns after showing obvious signs of being sociopaths is a GOOD thing. But its clear it'll be weaponized and its also clear it's not being used already. So they better A) already use the damn thing and B) have very strong protections against this being used for political or personal attack reasons.

Posted by: Defector at June 14, 2022 04:53 PM (A6TEe)

142 There is absolutely no way the G-d-blessed, cute adorable Ukrainians would *ever* be corrupt or possibly loot any of these shipments for sale on the black market.

I can't wait to hear about the battle, probably in 2023, where some Mexican cartel defeated the Mexican army by using Javelins to blow up the Army's armored vehicles.

It is going to be like a Michael Bay movie...but without giant robots. Or the good guys winning.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 14, 2022 04:53 PM (ESjRY)

143 However mad they are, I promise they're not mad enough to affect the midterm calculus. The political climate is so horrifically bad for Democrats that a red tsunami is on the way whether or not this bill passes. It's a free play for the GOP.

Now, consider the upsides. Democrats have been screeching for years that Republicans refuse to Do Something on gun violence, supposedly too frightened of the NRA to act for the country's benefit. Suddenly the GOP has an easy retort: "We backed the deal between John Cornyn and Chris Murphy, didn't we?" Righties can no longer be accused of paralysis after mass shootings.

Regardless of which way they vote, it won't impact the midterms, so may as well piss off some of the base I'm exchange for a completely worthless talking point of "we did something" for future negotiations with the party that's motto is "it's never enough/we need to do more?"

Brilliant.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 14, 2022 04:53 PM (JCZqz)

144 McConnell is a loathsome, octogenarian piece is shit.

Posted by: Marcus T at June 14, 2022 04:53 PM (ABRT6)

145 71 Arsonists attack Washington state House Republican office

https://bit.ly/3xuyRuJ

Has anyone heard a peep about this?
Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 04:45 PM (kDGvA)

Before giving a fornication, I would need to consider what kind of "Republicans" Washington state would likely have.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 14, 2022 04:54 PM (QSjkU)

146 >>>There is absolutely no way the G-d-blessed, cute adorable Ukrainians would *ever* be corrupt or possibly loot any of these shipments for sale on the black market.

>They're rock-ribbed. Like Democrats and Russians.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 14, 2022 04:54 PM (BP3/z)

147 141 Now do I believe red flags would be USEFUL, sure. Keeping human filth like in Uvalde and in Broward county from getting guns after showing obvious signs of being sociopaths is a GOOD thing. But its clear it'll be weaponized and its also clear it's not being used already. So they better A) already use the damn thing and B) have very strong protections against this being used for political or personal attack reasons.
Posted by: Defector at June 14, 2022 04:53 PM (A6TEe)

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Actually charging people with crimes would help instead of leftists saying that felonies should be outlawed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 04:54 PM (LvTSG)

148 No votes no dough for GOP until McConnell is gone

Posted by: Joetato at June 14, 2022 04:54 PM (aDzty)

149 As far as I understand it, there is no actual federal red flag law. It just provides bribes, errr I mean funding to states to set up their own.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 14, 2022 04:54 PM (26tlC)

150 What can we do to piss off people so they won't vote and dems can keep power so we don't have to actually work?

Posted by: GOP at June 14, 2022 04:54 PM (/6GbT)

151 Fear the Tortoise!

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 14, 2022 04:54 PM (lf83v)

152 129 You don't need an AR15 to hunt bugs
Posted by: Doyle Hargrave

True. Flame throwers are more effective.

Posted by: Puddleglum at June 14, 2022 04:55 PM (sAmhv)

153 in fairness, crenshaw is a fag that got fuckd in the eye during a team initiatin

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 14, 2022 04:55 PM (bx1gL)

154 We need an expressly anti-federal political party. I'm sure they'd red-flag anyone who joined.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 14, 2022 04:55 PM (44ww/)

155 148 No votes no dough for GOP until McConnell is gone
Posted by: Joetato at June 14, 2022 04:54 PM (aDzty)

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Don't tell us.

Tell the RNC. Tell your local Republican officials.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 04:55 PM (LvTSG)

156 93 What benefit is this to the Red Chinese?
Posted by: G'rump928(c) ponders at June 14, 2022 04:47 PM (yQpMk)

Well, it keeps those pesky Wolverines from fighting back should Xi decide to take Michigan.

Posted by: Bete at June 14, 2022 04:55 PM (F9322)

157 The Gope will betray you.

Posted by: But muh red wave at June 14, 2022 04:55 PM (I1Wgu)

158 I still feel like I'm watching failure theater.

Probably wrong, but we'll see. I just have a hard time believing Pelosi can whip votes to support a bill that doesn't ban any gun types.

This feels like one of McConnell's legislation games.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 14, 2022 04:55 PM (M2erG)

159 can you suck cock and cry at the same time ?

Yes.
*sobs*

Posted by: John Boehner at June 14, 2022 04:56 PM (lf83v)

160 Don't forget Trump put Mitch's wife in as Secretary of Transportation.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed

***

Yes when he naively thought he could unite the GOPe with his MAGA base for the good of the country, not realizing that the GOPe base doesn't give a f**k about this country and the alleged "true con" crowd is all about cutting off their noses to spite their faces rather than persuade others to join them.

Trump's biggest mistake: thinking others could be selfless

Posted by: Ultra MAGA Venus at June 14, 2022 04:56 PM (YVBLw)

161 148 No votes no dough for GOP until McConnell is gone
Posted by: Joetato at June 14, 2022 04:54 PM (aDzty)

Your concerns are noted. We'll just tack on another several thousand in contributions to make up for your silly mewing.
-- US Chamber of Commerce

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 14, 2022 04:56 PM (N39Ws)

162 Crenshaw has shown a temper. Someone should red flag him to keep him from going off.
Posted by: Bete at June 14, 2022 04:39 PM (F9322)

He has a history of violence.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 14, 2022 04:56 PM (yQpMk)

163 71 Arsonists attack Washington state House Republican office
https://bit.ly/3xuyRuJ
Has anyone heard a peep about this?
Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 04:45 PM (kDGvA)

Huh? What?

- Seattle Times

But hey, we're on top of the tampon shortage! Three articles in the past week, even an update today!

Posted by: The Western Washington Democrat Newsletter (aka Seattle Times) at June 14, 2022 04:56 PM (sy5kK)

164 126 I want the nut houses reopened. If you can't be trusted with a rifle, you also can't be trusted with a car, or a can of gasoline.
Posted by: Hawkpilot
--------------------

Rational thinking is not allowed

Posted by: Braenyard at June 14, 2022 04:56 PM (utM8c)

165 I want to see someone follow up with these arrests, give us the mugshots, charges, plea deals. Tell us who these people are and what sentences they receive.
Posted by: BuckIV at June 14, 2022 04:51 PM (CLfqv)

Sentences? Do they sentence Feebers who are doing the job their bosses give them to do?

Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2022 04:56 PM (YV6PJ)

166 So UP cannot hire enough employees and are asking outfits like FlyingJ/PILOT to reduce volumes of DEF

Seems like the truck stops could get dry or more concentrated urea and mix up their DEF onsite to reduce their shipping volume needed.

But WTH? Railroads pay good money and have generous retirement. I guess not many younger folks are willing to take a job that involves travel but I don't get that. So much of their social interaction is just via their smart phones and your smart phone works just fine wherever you are.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at June 14, 2022 04:56 PM (3cGpq)

167 Oh, well... if Dan Cuckshed is on-board, there's really nothing left to say, is there?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 14, 2022 04:56 PM (bW8dp)

168 The thing that depresses me the most about US politics is the willingness of democrat voters to support those burning down this country.
But a close second is the sheer inability of our (conservative) to throw off obvious back-stabbers like McConnell.
I oscillate between depressive paralysis and murderous anger.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 14, 2022 04:56 PM (roH4R)

169 160 Don't forget Trump put Mitch's wife in as Secretary of Transportation.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed

***

Yes when he naively thought he could unite the GOPe with his MAGA base for the good of the country, not realizing that the GOPe base doesn't give a f**k about this country and the alleged "true con" crowd is all about cutting off their noses to spite their faces rather than persuade others to join them.

Trump's biggest mistake: thinking others could be selfless
Posted by: Ultra MAGA Venus at June 14, 2022 04:56 PM (YVBLw)

I mean technically that's basically a bribe to McConnell so he wasn't quite that naïve.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 14, 2022 04:56 PM (b2nrj)

170 158 I still feel like I'm watching failure theater.

Probably wrong, but we'll see. I just have a hard time believing Pelosi can whip votes to support a bill that doesn't ban any gun types.

This feels like one of McConnell's legislation games.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 14, 2022 04:55 PM (M2erG)

========

With Dan Crenshaw voicing support, there are at least a couple dozen sitting Republicans in the House that will vote for this. She can freeze out the far left and get it passed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 04:56 PM (LvTSG)

171 There is no bill yet.

There is a framework.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 04:48 PM
.........

a 3000 page "framework". 750 of them blank with the title: Ukraine.

Posted by: wth at June 14, 2022 04:56 PM (v0R5T)

172
There is no bill yet.

There is a framework.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 04:48 PM (LvTSG)

Let me translate this. It means all the lobbyists have yet to line up and cash in on the graft. Once that happens, the bill will be written.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 14, 2022 04:57 PM (26tlC)

173 140 There is no bill yet. There is a framework.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 04:48 PM

Ah, OK then. Everyone is hitting the fainting couches over something that has not even been written yet.

I was worried I missed something about the red flag laws that had already been written into an actual bill by the Senate.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 14, 2022 04:53 PM

My colleagues and I are ready to capitulate in advance, before the final details are hammered out, if it helps with your panic and fainting.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at June 14, 2022 04:57 PM (JCZqz)

174 I want to see someone follow up with these arrests, give us the mugshots, charges, plea deals. Tell us who these people are and what sentences they receive.
Posted by: BuckIV at June 14, 2022 04:51 PM (CLfqv)
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They can't jail people for burning down neighborhoods, but for "planning a disruption" suddenly they're all about order and law.

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 04:57 PM (krQz2)

175 108 >>>This is a giant F you to the base. They know you're going to largely vote for them in the midterms. They truly believe you have no choice.

This is the biggest difference between legislators on the Right and Left. When democrats got the Congress and presidency, on day one, they started dismantling Trump's successes and spreading their tentacles throughout every agency. When the GOP wins, our "leaders" seek the greatest act of contrition to make the losers not feel too bad. Trump won; McConnell dug in his heels immediately, seeking compromise and ways to temper any of Trump's eagerness.

Dems bring a gun to a knife fight, and our guys hand them our knife, just so no one gets hurt. Sure, we always end up in the ER with gunshot and knife wounds, sputtering about how "We're the saucer..." but it makes for better fundraising that way.

Posted by: red speck at June 14, 2022 04:57 PM (gS3OW)

176 28 The only shock is people are shocked. McConnell is so confident that he is pre-fucking the base. Conservatives need to boycott ALL Senate elections, full stop.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at June 14, 2022 04:41 PM (AKQCJ)

Okay, Mr. Schumer!

Boycotting ALL senate elections would do nothing to get rid of McConnell, it would just play into Democrats' hands.

Boycotting elections of senators who support McConnell, now, that might make a difference.

Let's exact a promise from each embattled senate candidate -- promise not to support McConnell for majority leader or we won't vote for you.

Posted by: Rusty Trawler at June 14, 2022 04:57 PM (1gif2)

177 I'm submitting red flag reports on every democrat.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 14, 2022 04:57 PM (UuD2k)

178 168 The thing that depresses me the most about US politics is the willingness of democrat voters to support those burning down this country.
But a close second is the sheer inability of our (conservative) to throw off obvious back-stabbers like McConnell.
I oscillate between depressive paralysis and murderous anger.
Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 14, 2022 04:56 PM (roH4R)

========

"Congress sucks, but my guy is alright."
-Why 95% of incumbents win their races every two years

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 04:58 PM (LvTSG)

179 In this tweet, Eric Swalwell basically says he would make a Red Flag claim against Ben Shapiro.

https://bit.ly/3QjQciJ

Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 04:58 PM (kDGvA)

180 We mightbget lucky and Dems vote against it in the house? Their version bans anything tht goes bang. So they might not be willing to play ball.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 14, 2022 04:58 PM (26tlC)

181 There is no bill yet. There is a framework.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 04:48 PM
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The bones over which to put a cloak of red flags over.

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 04:58 PM (krQz2)

182 can you suck cock and cry at the same time ?
.........

only if you're not really gay.

Posted by: wth at June 14, 2022 04:58 PM (v0R5T)

183 This will turn out bad for all of us in America, fatally bad for the most vulnerable among us. Politically bad for the 10 jackwagons Cornyn is leading. Lets all hope for a poison pill.

Posted by: Paul in Texas at June 14, 2022 04:58 PM (RaWcF)

184 It will take years for these cases to once again reach SCOTUS so they can say- "what wasn't clear?"
___________

Ah but they're hoping that by the time it gets back up to SCOTUS, Thomas will have retired, Alito will have died, Roberts will have announced that he's a proud gay man who is transitioning to become a woman, and they'll get a very different result.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at June 14, 2022 04:58 PM (MvHI3)

185 I still feel like I'm watching failure theater.

Probably wrong, but we'll see. I just have a hard time believing Pelosi can whip votes to support a bill that doesn't ban any gun types.

This feels like one of McConnell's legislation games.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 14, 2022 04:55 PM

Yep, my point exactly. There is no written bill and there is no way that the house votes for any bill that does not ban "assault rifles" and high capacity magazines. It's all a game and a bunch of people are getting all wee-weed up about a bill that hasn't even been written yet and that has a zero chance of passing the house.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 14, 2022 04:58 PM (bVYXr)

186 If we win back the Senate, I'm going to bring even more heat.

You'll set yourself on fire? Please don't toy with me.

Posted by: Jewells45 at June 14, 2022 04:58 PM (nxdel)

187 153 in fairness, crenshaw is a fag that got fuckd in the eye during a team initiatin
Posted by: confederatefifth

and he beds all the women for a cover''

Posted by: Braenyard at June 14, 2022 04:58 PM (utM8c)

188 Giving the Democrats a win like this is like going back to the truck stop for "some work" after you hit the lottery.

Posted by: Some Lady (Lad?) of the night at June 14, 2022 04:58 PM (ESjRY)

189 > I'm submitting red flag reports on every democrat.

Connected people are immune.

Or as the mafia used to say, you can't touch a made guy.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 04:59 PM (kDGvA)

190 As far as I understand it, there is no actual federal red flag law. It just provides bribes, errr I mean funding to states to set up their own.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 14, 2022 04:54 PM (26tlC)

And some states will pass unconstitutional red flag laws, take the guns while it works its way up to SCOTUS. And we're at the point where CA or NY could just ignore SCOTUS, what would DC do about it?

Posted by: lowandslow at June 14, 2022 04:59 PM (qH6FZ)

191 Of course, McConnell as the Great Compromiser, will get nothing for caving in to the Dems.

Nothing.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 14, 2022 04:59 PM (lf83v)

192 I got this here shiny nickel that says this never passes. The progtards think they're winning so they will once again overplay their hand.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at June 14, 2022 04:59 PM (Qy7kP)

193 4/5 of this legislation is *stuff we want*. 1/5 is meaningless: money for red flag legislation development for states that are going to develop red flag legislation with or without federal assistance.

Dems backed off completely on actual gun control. No scary black gun bans. No mag limits.

Come on folks, learn how to take the W.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at June 14, 2022 04:59 PM (vcv8B)

194 This feels like one of McConnell's legislation games.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 14, 2022 04:55 PM (M2erG)
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Okay. Assume it is. It's possible, so let's roll with it.

Why? Still, why? Even it gets to the House and fails, why give them the talking point? Why comply with their narrative? Why bend over backwards from your position of dominance to make the other side happy while pissing off your base?

The only answer is that they're not on opposite sides, but are on the same side.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2022 04:59 PM (0zQHa)

195 164 126 I want the nut houses reopened. If you can't be trusted with a rifle, you also can't be trusted with a car, or a can of gasoline.
Posted by: Hawkpilot
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Rational thinking is not allowed
Posted by: Braenyard at June 14, 2022 04:56 PM

Gentlequeers, please, let's not judge too hastily...

Posted by: 2024 Dem Candidate Roster (and half the GOP ones) at June 14, 2022 04:59 PM (JCZqz)

196 153 in fairness, crenshaw is a fag that got fuckd in the eye during a team initiatin
Posted by: confederatefifth

and he beds all the women for a cover''
Posted by: B

he is the rock hudsn of the right

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 14, 2022 04:59 PM (bx1gL)

197 124 I quit following HotAir because of KarenPundit. What an embarrassment he is.
Posted by: Eternity Matters at June 14, 2022 04:51 PM (MTm8X)

When they closed the comments and Especially when they threw Michele Malkin under the bus.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 14, 2022 04:59 PM (dKiJG)

198 190 And some states will pass unconstitutional red flag laws, take the guns while it works its way up to SCOTUS. And we're at the point where CA or NY could just ignore SCOTUS, what would DC do about it?
Posted by: lowandslow at June 14, 2022 04:59 PM (qH6FZ)

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Maybe it'll be the thing that finally gets Mark to move out of Washington.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 04:59 PM (LvTSG)

199 41 coincidentally (I'm sure) Salem Media just implemented a "paid commenting" system for Hot Air and their other sites (except Insty for now) so if you want to rag on Allah in the comments you're gonna have to PAY to do that

not sure how we can manage negative traffic to Hot Air but it should be a goal
Posted by: BlackOrchidOfDerp

I really don't understand this.
- What are they selling? Is their club so special people would pay to join? They aren't really an information site since they mostly just link and opine. They aren't unique (like the Bee, for example,) or informative.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at June 14, 2022 05:00 PM (2kQVc)

200 179 In this tweet, Eric Swalwell basically says he would make a Red Flag claim against Ben Shapiro.

https://bit.ly/3QjQciJ
Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 04:58 PM (kDGvA)

And this is the danger of Red Flag laws. It will be weaponized. Not just by ex-spouses, pissed off family members or coworkers. This is how they can disarm you and use the local/state police to do it for them.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 14, 2022 05:00 PM (N39Ws)

201 Why not just have the “non” controversial parts as a standalone bill? It would probably get 95 votes.

But no, the gop cannot resist cucking itself.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 14, 2022 05:00 PM (26tlC)

202 This is why nothing positive ever gets done on gun ownership at the federal level. The states bust their ass to get constitutional carry and other things that help gun owners but we can't get anything done at the federal level because we have to waste all of our air speed and altitude fighting back against this silly horse s*** that the GOP is always taking part in.

The GOP should be pushing constitutional carry and doing something about the unconstitutional NFA (something that never should have seen the light of day but also should have been shit canned years ago) but instead everybody now has to spend all their energy and time worrying about how much the GOP is going to sell them out. It's never going to happen but after the GOP wins this November they need to get together and tell Aunt Bea and his mail order bride to f*** off back to Kentucky.

Posted by: Azathoth at June 14, 2022 05:00 PM (wb1YC)

203 This busty brunette in an extremely revealing dress thinks McConnell should fuck off to his aspirational homeland of Red China:
https://is.gd/yX1OH7

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2022 05:00 PM (0zQHa)

204 In this tweet, Eric Swalwell basically says he would make a Red Flag claim against Ben Shapiro.

https://bit.ly/3QjQciJ
Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 04:58 PM (kDGvA)
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On Twitter some greenies are outright clamoring for Twitter to censure the criticism of Green measures.

Not, just Green "science", but if they take measures to "sustain the world" as a result, they don't want non-cultists to criticize it, and think it should be called "m/disinformation".

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:00 PM (krQz2)

205 In this tweet, Eric Swalwell basically says he would make a Red Flag claim against Ben Shapiro.

Swallow-well must be harder to DESTROY MENTALLY this your average college sophomore or something right non-Binary Ben?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 14, 2022 05:00 PM (ESjRY)

206 there was somebody going to hot air after malkin quit doing trampoline and hot pants vids?

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 14, 2022 05:01 PM (bx1gL)

207 "Congress sucks, but my guy is ~~alright~~ the reason."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 04:58 PM (LvTSG)

Fixed for local accuracy. My rep is a smarmy, cocksucking, backstabbing, lying prick.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 14, 2022 05:01 PM (XIJ/X)

208 > The time for Mitch to go was 20 years ago.

The time for Mitch to go was 2 seconds before his inbred father dropped a load into his whore mother.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 14, 2022 05:01 PM (bW8dp)

209 And this is the danger of Red Flag laws. It will be weaponized. Not just by ex-spouses, pissed off family members or coworkers. This is how they can disarm you and use the local/state police to do it for them.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 14, 2022 05:00 PM (N39Ws)

Lefty NGO's will weaponize red flag laws on everyone that doesn't agree with them.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 14, 2022 05:01 PM (UuD2k)

210 155
Already told them. Trying to get you and others to join me.

Posted by: Joetato at June 14, 2022 05:01 PM (aDzty)

211 One of the two key planks of the deal, adding juvenile offenses to the federal background check system, is completely uncontroversial.

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Didn't AOC already speak out against this part?

Posted by: Cave Johnson at June 14, 2022 05:01 PM (a3+kM)

212 This bill says nothing..... This is a election prop to say I did something to save children from gun violence ........

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at June 14, 2022 05:01 PM (1jWYl)

213 I'm submitting red flag reports on every democrat.

And...pretty sure you'll find out that is illegal as well.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 14, 2022 05:01 PM (ESjRY)

214 Eric Swallwell's Chinese spy girlfriend liked Red flags too.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 14, 2022 05:01 PM (lf83v)

215 193
Dems backed off completely on actual gun control. No scary black gun bans. No mag limits.

Come on folks, learn how to take the W.
Posted by: quantum mechanic at June 14, 2022 04:59 PM

That's how Dems successfully fought even minor incursions in abortion...by not vigorously fighting against even minor, mostly symbolic compromises. Right?

Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 14, 2022 05:01 PM (JCZqz)

216 207 "Congress sucks, but my guy is alright the reason."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 04:58 PM (LvTSG)

Fixed for local accuracy. My rep is a smarmy, cocksucking, backstabbing, lying prick.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 14, 2022 05:01 PM (XIJ/X)

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So is mine! Except she's a chick. Also a Republican.

I voted against Nancy Mace this morning, and I look forward to voting against her again in November if she wins the primary.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 05:02 PM (LvTSG)

217 193 4/5 of this legislation is *stuff we want*. 1/5 is meaningless: money for red flag legislation development for states that are going to develop red flag legislation with or without federal assistance.

Dems backed off completely on actual gun control. No scary black gun bans. No mag limits.

Come on folks, learn how to take the W.
Posted by: quantum mechanic at June 14, 2022 04:59 PM (vcv8B)

All due respect, but no. Not one more G-D inch. No more.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 14, 2022 05:02 PM (N39Ws)

218 Wait. How is this the nood? Something something keys something time machine something something totally doesn't have?

Loose shit.

Posted by: blaster at June 14, 2022 05:02 PM (6TxNR)

219 Happily SCOTUS has said a few things about Red Flag, 9-0, in Caniglia v. Strom

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at June 14, 2022 05:03 PM (jWfD0)

220 Over 100 so:

Has anyone seen the crypto collapse of yesterday and today?

BTC down 25% yesterday from over 29,000 to 21,000.

Coinbase laying off 1,100 employees today.

Both at citizenfreepress.com

Crypto winter is coming!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 14, 2022 05:03 PM (sy5kK)

221 Dem and GOP, everyone in DC is so distrustful of us, the masses, that they are desperate to disarm us.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 14, 2022 05:03 PM (kf6Ak)

222 Remember, it is untoward to suggest voting third party, especially in safe races.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

No mas incumbents. Ever.
Dems couldn't do any worse to us.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at June 14, 2022 05:03 PM (E+jR2)

223 Even Joe Manchin says is so watered down its almost meaningless. When opposition to bill asked how this nothing burger will effect their right to own a gun if they are not crazy? They can only answer ;but what if I am crazy! Wont it effect my rights then?

Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at June 14, 2022 05:03 PM (TKtGF)

224
Since Crenshaw and Shapiro have both come up in this thread, get a load of this photo. These two look like they're at the premiere of "Brokeback Mountin' II: Him-A-Layin' Rodeo."

https://tinyurl.com/4kf26pdm

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 14, 2022 05:03 PM (ZRrE6)

225 This bill says nothing..... This is a election prop to say I did something to save children from gun violence ........
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at June 14, 2022 05:01 PM (1jWYl)
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So why didn't they start a hashtag like they did to counteract Boko Haram?

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:03 PM (krQz2)

226 > This is how they can disarm you and use the local/state police to do it for them.

They're setting up snitch networks to be used against their enemies just like Stalin did. Red Flag laws are game over for peacetime civilian gun ownership.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 05:03 PM (kDGvA)

227 Dems: Why are you against red flag laws its only to keep crazy people from getting guns?

Also Dems: Anyone who wants a gun is crazy.

Posted by: blaster at June 14, 2022 05:04 PM (6TxNR)

228 Like I've always said, "shall not be infringed" is pretty clear.

If Mitch and his lefty friends are opposed to the 2A, go out and repeal it, and stop with these unconstitutional acts.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at June 14, 2022 05:04 PM (lf83v)

229 >>> Has anyone seen the crypto collapse of yesterday and today?

BTC down 25% yesterday from over 29,000 to 21,000.

Coinbase laying off 1,100 employees today.

Both at citizenfreepress.com

Crypto winter is coming!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 14, 2022 05:03 PM (sy5kK)

It's just been trailing djia. It's very heavily correlated and has been for a year and a half.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 14, 2022 05:04 PM (vLfRn)

230 Crypto winter is coming!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 14, 2022 05:03 PM (sy5kK)
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Stark news.

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:04 PM (krQz2)

231 149 As far as I understand it, there is no actual federal red flag law. It just provides bribes, errr I mean funding to states to set up their own.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 14, 2022 04:54 PM (26tlC)

Yeah, and bribes to a public official are as good as a law. Just look what the feds are doing with school lunch funding. They will withhold that money if you won't let men pee next to little girls in the bathroom.

Posted by: Rusty Trawler at June 14, 2022 05:04 PM (1gif2)

232 It's all a game and a bunch of people are getting all wee-weed up about a bill that hasn't even been written yet and that has a zero chance of passing the house.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 14, 2022 04:58 PM (bVYXr)

So you're counting on Cocaine Mitch snookering the leftists in Congress to not vote for his bill?

I think this is the very definition of what it's like to be a frog carrying a scorpion across the river.

Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2022 05:05 PM (YV6PJ)

233 226
They're setting up snitch networks to be used against their enemies just like Stalin did. Red Flag laws are game over for peacetime civilian gun ownership.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 05:03 PM (kDGvA)

They already know snitch networks work here in the USA. How many municipalities set up snitch hotlines so neighbor could rat out neighbor for not following the lockdown rules? And how many were so ready willing and able to do it.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 14, 2022 05:05 PM (N39Ws)

234 215 That's how Dems successfully fought even minor incursions in abortion...by not vigorously fighting against even minor, mostly symbolic compromises. Right?
Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 14, 2022 05:01 PM
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Yep. How'd that work out? They're about to lose the whole enchilada.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at June 14, 2022 05:05 PM (vcv8B)

235 This busty brunette in an extremely revealing dress thinks McConnell should fuck off to his aspirational homeland of Red China:
https://is.gd/yX1OH7
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2022 05:00 PM (0zQHa)
........

uhbedeee bdeee...*snort* Wow!

Posted by: wth at June 14, 2022 05:05 PM (v0R5T)

236 When everyone is “crazy” then nobody can own guns. Red flag laws will make sure everyone is crazy. Have you ever seen a shrink for any reason? Crazy, no guns. Have you ever lost your temper and yelled at your co workers? Crazy, no gun. Have you ever been drunk and said some stupid shit you later regret? Sorry you are crazy, no guns. Were you in a fight 20 years ago in HS? Sorry that is a history of violence against children. No guns.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 14, 2022 05:05 PM (26tlC)

237 149 "As far as I understand it, there is no actual federal red flag law. It just provides bribes, errr I mean funding to states to set up their own."

That's what everyone is saying. I haven't read the darn thing, and I don't trust any of these lying RINO MFers half as far as I could throw them (I'm looking at you Mitch and your little lickspittle Cornyn too).

I would hope that Texas would not introduce the unconstitutional red flag laws. But since I also thought that a Texas Senator would have never backed this unconstitutional bullshit, all bets are off.

At this point I'd vote for a democrat before I'd vote for Cornyn. If your going to have a two faced, lying, gun grabbing, punk ass bitch for a senator, might as well have the real thing and not a cheap imitation like Cornyn.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at June 14, 2022 05:05 PM (cCxiu)

238 Where's a strong updraft when you need one?

Posted by: wth at June 14, 2022 05:06 PM (v0R5T)

239 Dems: Why are you against red flag laws its only to keep crazy people from getting guns?

If there was an opposition party they'd be pointing out the tranny spree shooter already broke a bunch of laws to get his gun and every government employee in the process just let it pass - presumably because he was a tranny and dreamer. And that the only thing that stopped him was literally a "good guy with a gun".

Posted by: 18-1 at June 14, 2022 05:06 PM (ESjRY)

240 Dear Heavenly Father who art in heaven, please put 98% of the Republican politicians on a plane and kamikaze that fvcker right into the ground so I never have to read/hear again “conservatism has failed, what have they conserved”, then replace them with actual conservatives. In Jesus name, AMEN 🙏

Posted by: JROD at June 14, 2022 05:06 PM (6GbUo)

241 https://is.gd/yX1OH7
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2022 05:00 PM (0zQHa)

It looks they photoshopped a smaller head on larger body.

Posted by: blaster at June 14, 2022 05:06 PM (6TxNR)

242 Cryptocurrency is pointless if the stock market affects it so strongly.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 14, 2022 05:06 PM (44ww/)

243 Ever seen a marriage counselor?
Red flag.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 14, 2022 05:06 PM (jTmQV)

244 All due respect, but no. Not one more G-D inch. No more.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 14, 2022 05:02 PM (N39Ws)

I'm going to take the Hitler approach on this, Not one inch back. Die where you stand.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 14, 2022 05:07 PM (QSjkU)

245 Yep. How'd that work out? They're about to lose the whole enchilada.

Abortion laws in America post Roe will be pretty close to where gun laws are.

In some states it will be almost impossible to get one, in others relatively easy.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 14, 2022 05:07 PM (ESjRY)

246 I'm going to have to get one of the t-shirts like Homer had that says "I'm Sane" with a stamp from a psychologist just to be safe from red-flag laws.

Posted by: banana Dream at June 14, 2022 05:07 PM (vLfRn)

247 243 Ever seen a marriage counselor?
Red flag.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 14, 2022 05:06 PM (jTmQV)

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"I have...shall you say...seen many marriage counselors..."
-The Paolo

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 05:07 PM (LvTSG)

248 I have pictures of 2nd Amendment sticks of butter.

For those that say, "I believe in the 2nd Amendment, but"

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at June 14, 2022 05:07 PM (E+jR2)

249 Well, if it's toothless, then I guess it helps make the hubbub die down.

And I definitely could see how that would be a positive development.

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:07 PM (krQz2)

250 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2022 05:00 PM (0zQHa)
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You are a Great American.

Posted by: Weasel at June 14, 2022 05:07 PM (0IeYL)

251 207 "Congress sucks, but my guy is alright the reason."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 04:58 PM (LvTSG)

Fixed for local accuracy. My rep is a smarmy, cocksucking, backstabbing, lying prick.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 14, 2022 05:01 PM (XIJ/X)

it IS gay pride month, so cocksucking by Reps is mandatory.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2022 05:08 PM (ynpvh)

252 > Lefty NGO's will weaponize red flag laws on everyone that doesn't agree with them.

Yep. Just look at what they've already done in the past. They've released lists of people who donated to Prop 8 or Trump. They've released CCW permit holder data.

NGOs are champing at the bit to release a cross referenced list for their people to submit red flag claims against the union of those two types of lists.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 05:08 PM (kDGvA)

253 Dear Heavenly Father who art in heaven, please put 98% of the Republican politicians on a plane and kamikaze that fvcker right into the ground so I never have to read/hear again “conservatism has failed, what have they conserved”, then replace them with actual conservatives. In Jesus name, AMEN 🙏
Posted by: JROD at June 14, 2022 05:06 PM (6GbUo)
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Can we amend that prayer to include 100% of Democrat politicians on that same plane?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 14, 2022 05:08 PM (YIVH2)

254 Pretty lukewarm stuff from McTurtle. Also interesting he gave himself an out.

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at June 14, 2022 05:08 PM (6fqJL)

255 250 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2022 05:00 PM (0zQHa)
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You are a Great American.
Posted by: Weasel at June 14, 2022 05:07 PM (0IeYL)

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Pretty sure he's a cop, too.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 05:08 PM (LvTSG)

256 Crypto winter is coming!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 14, 2022 05:03 PM (sy5kK)
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Stark news.
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:04 PM (krQz2)

ISWYDT

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 14, 2022 05:08 PM (DRSnL)

257 This is a rope-a-dope. I highly doubt an actual bill will get finalized and passed before November. Murder Turtle knows this. Plus, the expected SC decision on NY’s gun laws is expected to be unfavorable to Dumocraps. I don’t really trust Turtle, but he’s a smart guy, a shrewd politician, and a master of senate procedures. I think is him and the GOP throwing a meaningless bone to the many right-leaning moderates scared of big scary looking guns. Nothing will come of it, assuming the GOP retakes the house and senate. And if they don’t, then we are all so so so very fuckeded that nothing will matter anyway.

Posted by: Elric Blade at June 14, 2022 05:08 PM (lzVK9)

258
Ever seen a marriage counselor?
Red flag.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 14, 2022 05:06 PM (jTmQV)

Haven't seen one? Also a red flag.

The point of laws like this is to selectively apply them - to every last wretched peasant, in the end.

Red flag laws are a wet dream for our asshole rulers.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 14, 2022 05:08 PM (ZRrE6)

259 He is a waste of space. Talks a good story and then pisses on it and says it's raining. Ta hell with him.

Posted by: Hold My Beer at June 14, 2022 05:08 PM (piPss)

260 Bastard made a big deal of waving a kentucky long rifle around at an NRA convention a decade ago.

Sure you're not thinking of Charleton Heston? Even as the "President" of the NRA, he didn't have the stones to be seen holding a MSR.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 14, 2022 05:08 PM (nfrXX)

261 Has anyone seen the crypto collapse of yesterday and
BTC down 25% yesterday from over 29,000 to 21,000.

Coinbase laying off 1,100 employees today.

Both at citizenfreepress.com

Crypto winter is coming!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 14, 2022 05:03 PM

I have been assured repeatedly by almost everyone pushing crypto currency that crypto currency is the hedge against inflation and recessions and you need to buy into it with every dollar that you have to protect yourself from the ups and downs of the stock market.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 14, 2022 05:09 PM (bVYXr)

262 I made the mistake of driving into town in my car today and some aspiring rappers decided to fk with me on the road. They don't do that shit when I'm in my truck. The cost of gas is actually making me less safe because I'm not driving my truck as much.

Posted by: fd at June 14, 2022 05:09 PM (vrz2I)

263 260 Bastard made a big deal of waving a kentucky long rifle around at an NRA convention a decade ago.

Sure you're not thinking of Charleton Heston? Even as the "President" of the NRA, he didn't have the stones to be seen holding a MSR.
Posted by: Oddbob at June 14, 2022 05:08 PM (nfrXX)

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McConnell did it too.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 05:09 PM (LvTSG)

264 Red flag laws will make sure everyone is crazy.

"You want to own a gun? That's crazy! Next".

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at June 14, 2022 05:09 PM (l70U7)

265 Dem and GOP, everyone in DC is so distrustful of us, the masses, that they are desperate to disarm us.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 14, 2022 05:03 PM (kf6Ak)
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Yup.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at June 14, 2022 05:09 PM (5pTK/)

266 Do you own an American flag?
Red Flag

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 14, 2022 05:09 PM (Y5qcH)

267 Fixed for local accuracy. My rep is a smarmy, cocksucking, backstabbing, lying prick.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 14, 2022 05:01 PM (XIJ/X)

Wait!
I didn't know you lived in my 9th district WA where communist Adam Smith rules, CBD. Because that is exactly how I would describe him.
The Seattle Times today had an editorial recommending his re-election. The Seattle Times has had ZERO articles about any opponent until listed once on the 7th paragraph in the 8 paragraph article.
But in earlier paragraphs, they mention how bad the Republicans are and how Smith "stood up against them".
This is what passes for news in Western WA these days.
Civil war is looking better every day.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 14, 2022 05:09 PM (sy5kK)

268 At least all the loco MS13 members will no longer have guns right?

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 14, 2022 05:09 PM (26tlC)

269 Kobayashi would be a lot better if he finished his horror stories instead of saying the last chapter was freaking lost.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 14, 2022 05:10 PM (utM8c)

270 Do you like gladiator movies?

RED FLAG

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 14, 2022 05:10 PM (Y5qcH)

271 If the leftards get their way, NOBODY POSTING HERE WOULD GET PAST THE RED FLAG LAWS. Try not to be a naive imbecile some of you folks.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 14, 2022 05:10 PM (QSjkU)

272 It won't do a damn thing to stop the POC thugs in blue cites from racking up weekend body counts.

Congress is racist!

Posted by: Archer at June 14, 2022 05:10 PM (gmo/4)

273 260 That Pennsylvania rifle you see people with at the NRA convention is an annual award.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 14, 2022 05:10 PM (lz5hY)

274 I'm assuming "take the W" is sarcastic here, because it would be invidious to describe it if it's serious.

Purely passive, usually insincere inertia farming is not, obviously, close to adequate if you want to improve the country, or at this point even mitigate the deep, comprehensive degradation.

So not having any AR-15 bans is not a "win", it's simply to be assumed, and the opportunity should have been seized to engage in actual politics - on offense. Red hot, screaming, relentless offense.

On the issue. On gunz, on "climate", on many things, the GOP is content to barely avert catastrophe, via inertia (the public really not supporting the most idiotic vandalism of the Dems). There is never - never - even a word spoken to eviscerate the massive edifice of lies and cartoonish myths on which all of these toxic idiocies are based.

Even Trump, in dumping the Paris Accord, said not a word about substance. Total dodge. "Not a good deal for America" - which is really idiotic and irresponsible. There's a reason the country's in the state it's in, and one of the main factors is this - literal silence, on substance, from any rational, informed public figure.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2022 05:10 PM (OTzUX)

275 266 Do you own an American flag?
Red Flag
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 14, 2022 05:09 PM (Y5qcH)

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It's also got white and blue on it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 05:10 PM (LvTSG)

276 McConnell did his act onstage, too, Oddbob.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at June 14, 2022 05:10 PM (L9qzu)

277 Dems: Why are you against red flag laws its only to keep crazy people from getting guns?

Ask them if they are against SWAT'ing.

Red Flag Laws. The new SWAT'ing.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at June 14, 2022 05:10 PM (E+jR2)

278 This is a rope-a-dope. I highly doubt an actual bill will get finalized and passed before November. Murder Turtle knows this. Plus, the expected SC decision on NY’s gun laws is expected to be unfavorable to Dumocraps. I don’t really trust Turtle, but he’s a smart guy, a shrewd politician, and a master of senate procedures. I think is him and the GOP throwing a meaningless bone to the many right-leaning moderates scared of big scary looking guns. Nothing will come of it, assuming the GOP retakes the house and senate. And if they don’t, then we are all so so so very fuckeded that nothing will matter anyway.
Posted by: Elric Blade at June 14, 2022 05:08 PM (lzVK9)
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Yup, this would only be the Senate Bill. It is not the "Committee Report".

We won't know what's in it until the committee decides it.

Who knows, maybe the Dems could poison-pill the Committee report? It wouldn't be the first time Pubs couldn't vote for the merged bill.

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:11 PM (krQz2)

279 190
This guy gets it. No one in this country really respects any law they don't agree with. I will support any candidate that gives the finger to the Supreme Court at this point. The only gift they 'might' give us at this point is rolling back RvW.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at June 14, 2022 05:11 PM (roH4R)

280 With Dan Crenshaw voicing support, there are at least a couple dozen sitting Republicans in the House that will vote for this. She can freeze out the far left and get it passed.
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She only has an 8 seat majority. My gut feel is there are more Dems who have to have some type of gun or at least magazine ban in the bill than GOPe idiots like Crenshaw. Also time is not their friend, the more time that passes the more GOPe that get nervous about voting for something voters don't want.

Fully willing to admit I could be wrong. But we've seen this show before.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 14, 2022 05:11 PM (M2erG)

281 Out swatting your neighbor. In: reporting your neighbor for "suspicious activity" "I think I heard him say something about a school. And he has guns!"

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 14, 2022 05:11 PM (12jgO)

282 234 215 That's how Dems successfully fought even minor incursions in abortion...by not vigorously fighting against even minor, mostly symbolic compromises. Right?
Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 14, 2022 05:01 PM
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Yep. How'd that work out? They're about to lose the whole enchilada.
Posted by: quantum mechanic at June 14, 2022 05:05 PM

Pretty well...it's lasted 50+ years, brainwashed multiple generations of voters, and has taken an extremely fortuitous set of circumstances to get to a judicial (not legislative) decision...and we still don't know how sweeping the final decision will be. If it goes to the states, we sort of reset, but (as with most things) I think we'll see a gradual shift to more permissive abortions/the left wing view.

Only gun rights seem to buck the general trend leftward, and only because gun rights folks fight EVERY incursion as ruthlessly as the left does with abortion.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 14, 2022 05:11 PM (JCZqz)

283 269 Kobayashi would be a lot better if he finished his horror stories instead of saying the last chapter was freaking lost.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 14, 2022 05:10 PM (utM8c)

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Well, the voiceover kind of establishes it beforehand that it's not finished, so it's not like it's a surprise. Also, the sudden end actually does fit with the rest of the movie, the author being taken by the spiritual world because he fucked with the spiritual world, in theory.

The incomplete form fits the rest of the film, the three other complete stories, quite well.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 05:11 PM (LvTSG)

284 Imagine 10 Dem senators going behind closed doors to negotiate abortion restrictions with Rs.

Would that ever happen?

Of course not.

Posted by: But muh red wave at June 14, 2022 05:12 PM (I1Wgu)

285 I am glad the GOP is ready to take this freebie to screw their base.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 14, 2022 05:12 PM (12jgO)

286 265 Dem and GOP, everyone in DC is so distrustful of us, the masses, that they are desperate to disarm us.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 14, 2022 05:03 PM (kf6Ak)
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I think they trust us.
That's why they are scared of us.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 14, 2022 05:12 PM (utM8c)

287 How many of you here are crazy?

Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at June 14, 2022 05:12 PM (TKtGF)

288 Caterpillar announced today that it is moving HQ from Illinois to Texas.

Posted by: Mark1971 at June 14, 2022 05:12 PM (xPl2J)

289 Only gun rights seem to buck the general trend leftward, and only because gun rights folks fight EVERY incursion as ruthlessly as the left does with abortion.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 14, 2022 05:11 PM (JCZqz)

That and I think a fair number of lefties secretly own guns. You can't live in a blue shithole without some protection.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 14, 2022 05:12 PM (Y5qcH)

290 Do you own an American flag?
Red Flag
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

Do you suck dick?
No - Red Flag
Yes - Red Flag

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at June 14, 2022 05:12 PM (E+jR2)

291 Busty Brunette: more like this please. Looks all-natural. Not like bad hair-dye blonde with her ready-to-burst C's. She must have been a AAA before the boob job.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at June 14, 2022 05:12 PM (vcv8B)

292 I am glad the GOP is ready to take this freebie to screw their base.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 14, 2022 05:12 PM

Have you read the actual bill they are proposing?

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 14, 2022 05:12 PM (bVYXr)

293 At this point I'd vote for a democrat before I'd vote for Cornyn.

I said as much in an email to his office on Sunday. I doubt the peon staffer who reads it will care and I have four years to wait before I can make good on it in any case.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 14, 2022 05:13 PM (nfrXX)

294 If you keep leaving food out for SWAT teams, they'll never leave you alone. Someone tell Tim Pool.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 14, 2022 05:13 PM (44ww/)

295 As far as that RED FAG......FLAG (my bad) goes, very Vet will be screwed over.

Posted by: Hold My Beer at June 14, 2022 05:13 PM (piPss)

296
Do you suck dick?
No - Red Flag
Yes - Red Flag

Ahem.

Posted by: Lesbians considering which women should be allowed to have guns at June 14, 2022 05:13 PM (ESjRY)

297 Dems: Why are you against red flag laws its only to keep crazy people from getting guns?

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I'm a little doubtful that Dems won't get guns.

∎

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:13 PM (krQz2)

298 Is the gop retarded or treacherous?

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 14, 2022 05:13 PM (26tlC)

299 Eat horse paste? RED FLAG!

Don't trust vaccinations? RED FLAG!

Stolen election? RED FLAG!

Seeing a therapist? RED FLAG!

Not seeing a therapist? RED FLAG!

Against abortion? BIG RED FLAG!

Posted by: 496 at June 14, 2022 05:13 PM (VJsqe)

300 Anyone wonder if there'll be a questionnaire involved with purchasing a firearm and answering a question with wrongthink will get one Red Flagged?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at June 14, 2022 05:13 PM (5pTK/)

301 Caterpillar announced today that it is moving HQ from Illinois to Texas.
Posted by: Mark1971

Don't bring the union goons.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at June 14, 2022 05:14 PM (E+jR2)

302 Fire Mitch the Bitch. Now.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at June 14, 2022 05:14 PM (XvPQV)

303 We Have to Act Now(TM) prompted by the Buffalo and Uvalde mass shootings (not the usual weekend slaughter in Chicago and Philly). Ok, so can we at least answer these questions 1) was Buffalo shooter known to LE and what actions were taken and 2) how did Uvalde shooter get cash to buy guns and ammo? in order to inform congress on what may be included in the bill to prevent these specific crimes?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 14, 2022 05:14 PM (fs1hN)

304 287 How many of you here are crazy?
Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at June 14, 2022 05:12 PM
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I am the only sane one here.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at June 14, 2022 05:14 PM (vcv8B)

305 I'm the only sane person I know.

Posted by: Archer at June 14, 2022 05:14 PM (gmo/4)

306 A smart person in congress would be slowing this through every procedure system available, because once the "OH MY GOD THE CHILDREN" thing fades, the drive to do this goes away as well.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 14, 2022 05:14 PM (KZzsI)

307 Jinx!

Posted by: Archer at June 14, 2022 05:14 PM (gmo/4)

308 I'm trying to work in the topic of, Where Does America Get It's Piss From, into every discussion with a Biden voter.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 14, 2022 05:14 PM (MMvbB)

309 Could someone provide a timeline or at least a starting point - including tweets/comments if possible - documenting the fallout between Ace and Allahpundit as it happened?

I know it's old news at this point, but it would still be interesting for those of us who missed it while it happened.

Posted by: alleninhawaii at June 14, 2022 05:14 PM (5zo2w)

310 How many sleazy divorce lawyers will use threat of invoking a red flag law as leverage?

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 14, 2022 05:14 PM (lz5hY)

311 Do you read Ace?
Double red flag for you.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 14, 2022 05:14 PM (26tlC)

312 Red Flag laws are the government giving itself a pass to ignore its own rules.

If this passes, I expect it to be remembered as fondly as the Enabling Acts were.

Yes, I've called my senators. No, they didn't even bother to pick up the line.

Posted by: Voyager at June 14, 2022 05:15 PM (u5PZm)

313 hiya

Posted by: JT at June 14, 2022 05:15 PM (arJlL)

314 Don't subscribe to global warming? Red flag.
Dont want CRT taught to little kids? Red flag.
Don't like drag queen story hour? Red flag.
Don't want little kids getting sex changes? Red flag.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 14, 2022 05:15 PM (QSjkU)

315 We really need to simplify sending them our contempt. I've done so with Tillis - he's toast to me. I honestly will vote for ANY Democrat just to be rid of the bastard.

But it should be easier, and there should be a site where our "votes" would combine with others'.

Posted by: Eeyore at June 14, 2022 05:15 PM (R0Tis)

316 Mitch should toss in an Obama 'you should be thanking us' just for s&g.

Posted by: micky at June 14, 2022 05:15 PM (3byMq)

317 >>> That and I think a fair number of lefties secretly own guns. You can't live in a blue shithole without some protection.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 14, 2022 05:12 PM (Y5qcH)
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Lefties trust their fellow travelers less than we do.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 14, 2022 05:15 PM (utM8c)

318
So not having any AR-15 bans is not a "win", it's simply to be assumed, and the opportunity should have been seized to engage in actual politics - on offense. Red hot, screaming, relentless offense.

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100%.

This is the time to say "Absolutely not. The Republican Party will NEVER permit our most vulnerable urban populations to be deprived of their 2nd amendment rights or their freedom to feel safe. These laws are racist. I'm disgusted. Any Republican voting for these measures will lose his NRSC endorsement and all associated funding."

But, hey, that's just not who we are.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 14, 2022 05:15 PM (ZRrE6)

319 310 How many sleazy divorce lawyers will use threat of invoking a red flag law as leverage?
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 14, 2022 05:14 PM (lz5hY)

All of them?

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 14, 2022 05:15 PM (26tlC)

320 253 Dear Heavenly Father who art in heaven, please put 98% of the Republican politicians on a plane and kamikaze that fvcker right into the ground so I never have to read/hear again “conservatism has failed, what have they conserved”, then replace them with actual conservatives. In Jesus name, AMEN 🙏
Posted by: JROD at June 14, 2022 05:06 PM (6GbUo)
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Can we amend that prayer to include 100% of Democrat politicians on that same plane?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at June 14, 2022 05:08 PM (YIVH2)

We're gonna need a bigger plane...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2022 05:15 PM (ynpvh)

321 Calculator says we should have gotten rid of McConnell 81 years ago.

Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at June 14, 2022 05:15 PM (3AD8C)

322 Sen. Ron Johnson wants me to help re-elect him.

Nope. Instead of voting on Nov. 8th, I'm going to get drunk and rant on AoSHQ. Because fuck them.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 14, 2022 05:16 PM (qH6FZ)

323 Imagine 10 Dem senators going behind closed doors to negotiate abortion restrictions with Rs.

Would that ever happen?

Of course not.

To piggy back on this. Imagine if that happened and the 10 Dem Senators told their voters, "Don't worry about it, there will be judicial review." Do you think the left would say, "Oh, OK, as long as there is judicial review, then it should be fine."

Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 05:16 PM (kDGvA)

324 I said this earlier; it's no surprise that the GOP whose base despises them would not now embrace some form of gun control. The left wants to take firearms out of the hands of the public and that happens to include a lot of GOP supporters. The GOP is afraid. They're afraid they'll be confronted by the heavily armed Republican base who have had enough of their bullshit.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 14, 2022 05:16 PM (BFigT)

325 That and I think a fair number of lefties secretly own guns. You can't live in a blue shithole without some protection.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 14, 2022 05:12 PM (Y5qcH)
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Thus proving that crazy people can get guns.
∎

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:16 PM (krQz2)

326 I agree with Eric Blade. I have a Sig 9 mm, two rifles and a shot gun. I think every American should be educated about firearms, kinda like sex ed. But this would actually benefit the country.

But I do NOT think this will pass before November and the calculation is that the Republicans can pick off some moderate Low info Voters with this kind of positioning.

We need to see the actual language of the bill. And the Dems in the house are so crazy, that anything less than a total ban on guns may not pass. Plus, it will be challenged for constitutionality. I am holding my fire and hope that there is some kind of strategy to this.

Posted by: Czech Chick at June 14, 2022 05:16 PM (haWye)

327 321 Calculator says we should have gotten rid of McConnell 81 years ago.
Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at June 14, 2022 05:15 PM (3AD8C)

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All the way back when Taylor Lorenz was in high school?

Posted by: 496 at June 14, 2022 05:16 PM (VJsqe)

328 It's always been too late and too early to ditch Mitch.

Posted by: DaveA at June 14, 2022 05:16 PM (FhXTo)

329 Have you read the actual bill they are proposing?
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 14, 2022 05:12 PM (bVYXr)
_____________________

Devil is in the details for every one of these bills, and never in favor of the ordinary citizen. But you do have a point, maybe this time it will be fine. I'd like to be optimistic, but they make it difficult.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at June 14, 2022 05:16 PM (fs1hN)

330 How many of you here are crazy?
Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at June 14, 2022 05:12 PM
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I am the only sane one here.
Posted by: quantum mechanic at June 14, 2022 05:14 PM (vcv8B)
***

I took a vote of all the voices in my head. I'm clearly not crazy!

Posted by: Diogenes at June 14, 2022 05:17 PM (anj39)

331 Gun Control today, Amnesty tomorrow, what's The GOP good for?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 14, 2022 05:17 PM (MMvbB)

332 319 310 How many sleazy divorce lawyers will use threat of invoking a red flag law as leverage?
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at June 14, 2022 05:14 PM (lz5hY)

All of them?

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 14, 2022 05:15 PM (26tlC)

It's another tool, just like restraining orders. I know one particular case where the judge said, "well, the only thing both stories agrees on is the chair was thrown, but the chair is not filing charges, so the order is dismissed"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2022 05:17 PM (ynpvh)

333 Do you read Ace?

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 14, 2022 05:14 PM (26tlC)
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Do you read Sutter Cane?

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:17 PM (krQz2)

334 Biden admin announces the release of another 45 million barrels of crude oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

***

Hey, you know what this flailing ball sack needs? A big win on gun control.

Posted by: Azathoth at June 14, 2022 05:17 PM (wb1YC)

335 As reprehensible and addlepated as he is, Allahpundit is a DC lawyer, making a pretty decent living, apparently. Didn't you meet him, Ace?

Posted by: Splatter at June 14, 2022 05:17 PM (hKxsK)

336 Raising the age to 21 for semi auto rifles would have done a lot less damage. And probably would have made the left happier too. This red flag shit about the worst possible outcome. It destroys the right to own funs for millions and still the left thinks it got nothing and will still be pushing for bans.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 14, 2022 05:17 PM (26tlC)

337 She must have been a AAA

They have those nice car insurance ads

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at June 14, 2022 05:18 PM (l70U7)

338 333 Do you read Ace?

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 14, 2022 05:14 PM (26tlC)
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Do you read Sutter Cane?
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:17 PM (krQz2)

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My favorite color is blue.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 05:18 PM (LvTSG)

339 Have you read the actual bill they are proposing?
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 14, 2022 05:12 PM (bVYXr)
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It does not matter what is in the bill. This is a ratchet that only goes one way and I guarantee the law will be enforced in the broadest possible sense on law abiding citizens.

There are laws on the books, already, that are not being enforced. The most egregious example being Hunter Biden.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at June 14, 2022 05:18 PM (5pTK/)

340 274 I'm assuming "take the W" is sarcastic here, because it would be invidious to describe it if it's serious.
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I'm serious. Dems got 100% of nothing. We shut them up on scary gun laws and mag bans. It's a zero-sum game. If they lose, we win.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at June 14, 2022 05:18 PM (vcv8B)

341 How many of you here are crazy?
Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at June 14, 2022 05:12 PM
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Um. Nobody exists but me.

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:18 PM (krQz2)

342 >>> 311 Do you read Ace?
Double red flag for you.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 14, 2022 05:14 PM (26tlC)

Heh.

Show up at a MoMee? Triple-dog red flag!!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 14, 2022 05:18 PM (llON8)

343 I'm in NC.

Tillis was just re-elected on 2020. I don't know how with Trump losing and Cooper winning.

Burr has thrown in the towel, and is not seeking re-election as he has reached comfortable grift status.

It's been an Op for 5+ years.

Keep that in mind at all times and it all comes into focus.

Posted by: golfman at June 14, 2022 05:18 PM (hOMhY)

344 244 All due respect, but no. Not one more G-D inch. No more.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at June 14, 2022 05:02 PM (N39Ws)

I'm going to take the Hitler approach on this, Not one inch back. Die where you stand.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 14, 2022 05:07 PM

Can we amend it with the Patton quote about making the other bastard die for his country?

Posted by: Military Moron at June 14, 2022 05:18 PM (JCZqz)

345 >>> 341 How many of you here are crazy?
Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at June 14, 2022 05:12 PM
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Um. Nobody exists but me.
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:18 PM (krQz2)

Shut up, LaMDA!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 14, 2022 05:18 PM (llON8)

346 To piggy back on this. Imagine if that happened and the 10 Dem Senators told their voters, "Don't worry about it, there will be judicial review." Do you think the left would say, "Oh, OK, as long as there is judicial review, then it should be fine."

EXACTLY bonhomme well said!!!

we need to be screaming about this NOW

wtf?!?! why would we wait?!?! the Left wouldn't wait!!!

I'm past expecting the Rs in office to fight but WE can at least fight!

Posted by: BlackOrchidOfDerp at June 14, 2022 05:19 PM (w0NJk)

347 Ben Shapiro once said that if congress mandates LGBTQWERTY indoctrination in schools, he will "pick up a gun" etc.

Congressman Swallwell responds to this:

"Reason 1,578 why American needs Red Flag laws"

Cernovich responds, quite accurately:

"This is how red flag laws will be used"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 14, 2022 05:19 PM (KZzsI)

348 Ben Shapiro is ok with Red Flag laws, in principle.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at June 14, 2022 05:19 PM (XvPQV)

349 Practically every batch of divorce papers these days comes with a free restraining order against the husband but don't worry because there's no way these red flag laws will ever be abused constantly.

Posted by: Azathoth at June 14, 2022 05:19 PM (wb1YC)

350 158 I still feel like I'm watching failure theater.

Probably wrong, but we'll see. I just have a hard time believing Pelosi can whip votes to support a bill that doesn't ban any gun types.

This feels like one of McConnell's legislation games.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 14, 2022 04:55 PM (M2erG)

Including juvenile violent offenses in a Federal crime-tracking database to be used for any purpose will not be approved by the House. It's raycisss!

Posted by: tuesday already? at June 14, 2022 05:19 PM (AMIL/)

351 Either the reporting on the 31 "Patriot Front" killer white nationalists is so shoddy as to be useless, or there is absolutely no info available on these guys that's worth reporting - hard to believe that, though.

CBS says that they contacted one of the 31 suspects' lawyer, now released on bond, and that lawyer gave a quote. But checking out the lawyer, he also said that his client never contacted him about the arrest, and his lawyer hasn't even represented him on any other case, though supposedly the guy has a prior. So, what WTH?

No one else's lawyer has been called, or any attempt to discover anything about the other 30 guys at all other than CBS thinks they might be former military - yeah, not at an average age of 24. Everything sounds way too fishy.

Posted by: Boswell at June 14, 2022 05:20 PM (5iUNf)

352 I mean, fuck the whole 'innocent until proven guility' shit, right?

Assholes, all of these Red Flag supporters.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Buy ammo, food, water at June 14, 2022 05:20 PM (XvPQV)

353 I am the only sane one here.
Posted by: quantum mechanic at June 14, 2022 05:14 PM (vcv8B)

Damn. are you the guy I just spent 2 hours on a conference call on an unemployment appeal?

Posted by: golfman at June 14, 2022 05:20 PM (hOMhY)

354 How many of you here are crazy?
Posted by: exodus 21:22-25

I used to be....ya see that buttonhole ? RATS used to come out of there !

Posted by: JT at June 14, 2022 05:20 PM (arJlL)

355 The collapse of Bitcoin and others is a good thing for the environment.
https://tinyurl.com/yup94ebf

.... Since Bitcoin’s price peaked at around $69,000 in November, the network’s annual electricity consumption has been estimated to be between roughly 180 and 200 terawatt-hours (TWh). That’s about the same amount of electricity used by all the data centers in the world every year....
....A sustained price at around $24K could shrink the Bitcoin network’s global energy use to around 170 TWh annually, according to de Vries. That might sound like an incremental change, but it would add up to a significant drop in electricity use and related greenhouse gas emissions. If you compare it to the annualized energy use de Vries estimated Bitcoin was responsible for throughout much of 2022, it would be like shaving off the amount of electricity the country of Ireland uses in a year.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 14, 2022 05:20 PM (sy5kK)

356 As a solipsist, I fear that things may get so out of hand that one part of me will redflag the other part of me, and stick me into a concentration camp.

C'mon, me!

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:20 PM (krQz2)

357 @320 Would jesus own an AR-15?

Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at June 14, 2022 05:20 PM (TKtGF)

358 > Dems got 100% of nothing.

Baloney. Red Flag laws are game over. There will be Democrats who make it their life's mission to gather dirt on gun owners and either make Red Flag claims themselves or pass that info off to allies near to the target who will make a Red Flag claim.

Red Flag laws are a million times worse than a 10 round mag limit.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 05:21 PM (kDGvA)

359 Why? Still, why? Even it gets to the House and fails, why give them the talking point? Why comply with their narrative?
---
Because they are really bad at understanding (or don't care) about their voting base. They want to be able to go on the cable shows and say "we are trying to do something about school safety but the Democrats won't address the real issue"

It's how they have always operated, why would they change now?

Posted by: Dave in Fla at June 14, 2022 05:21 PM (M2erG)

360 357 @320 Would jesus own an AR-15?
Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at June 14, 2022 05:20 PM (TKtGF)

=========

Peter would.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 05:21 PM (LvTSG)

361 345 >>> 341 How many of you here are crazy?
Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at June 14, 2022 05:12 PM
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Um. Nobody exists but me.
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:18 PM (krQz2)

Shut up, LaMDA!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 14, 2022 05:18 PM (llON

My lord...just realized the AI is named LAMDA, like lambda the greek letter the gays ~~use~~ co-opted. I knew there was something queer about that AI...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2022 05:21 PM (ynpvh)

362 You would think with all these homos around, Analpoundit could make more grift taking it every which way, instead of writing

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at June 14, 2022 05:22 PM (ZxJor)

363 336 Raising the age to 21 for semi auto rifles would have done a lot less damage ...
Posted by: Joe XiDen
----------------

Males don't start settling down until they are about 25.
Twenty five would be a better age to allow gun purchase.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 14, 2022 05:22 PM (utM8c)

364 I'll be brutally honest, I don't trust you motherfuckers.

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at June 14, 2022 05:22 PM (ANH3w)

365 This busty brunette in an extremely revealing dress thinks McConnell should fuck off to his aspirational homeland of Red China:
https://is.gd/yX1OH7
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 14, 2022 05:00 PM (0zQHa)

Approved for floundercare.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at June 14, 2022 05:22 PM (nByzo)

366 >>> 360 357 @320 Would jesus own an AR-15?
Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at June 14, 2022 05:20 PM (TKtGF)

=========

Peter would.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 05:21 PM (LvTSG)

...and have you SEEN this thing that goes UP?! This is so awesome...

Posted by: Peter at June 14, 2022 05:22 PM (llON8)

367 222 No mas incumbents. Ever.
Dems couldn't do any worse to us.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at June 14, 2022 05:03 PM (E+jR2)

This. The realization that mass death is all but inevitable at this point is a somewhat liberating.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik [DHS Verdict: MDM] at June 14, 2022 05:22 PM (DTX3h)

368 Jesus was more of a Sig guy.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 14, 2022 05:22 PM (12jgO)

369 I agree with Eric Blade. I have a Sig 9 mm, two rifles and a shot gun. I think every American should be educated about firearms, kinda like sex ed. But this would actually benefit the country.

Got a vindictive ex or maybe just a neighbor who doesn't like where you park? You too could "benefit the country" some day.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 14, 2022 05:22 PM (nfrXX)

370 360 357 @320 Would jesus own an AR-15?
Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at June 14, 2022 05:20 PM (TKtGF)

=========

Peter would.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at June 14, 2022 05:21 PM (LvTSG)

Someone responded to that with,
"Well, he didn't, and that's why they were able to hang him on a cross"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2022 05:23 PM (ynpvh)

371 Do people really speak this way? Went vs gone is annoying but

I have rode horses...

Ridden?

Posted by: micky at June 14, 2022 05:23 PM (3byMq)

372 The collapse of Bitcoin and others is a good thing for the environment.
https://tinyurl.com/yup94ebf

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 14, 2022 05:20 PM (sy5kK)

I always thought they would shut down the internet.

Never occurred to me they'd just shut down the electricity

Posted by: golfman at June 14, 2022 05:23 PM (hOMhY)

373 Posted by: Czech Chick at June 14, 2022 05:16 PM (haWye)

Please, stop posting specifics about what firearms you own on the interweb. The rest of you too. I do not think it is wise to volunteer that information. I do not trust the government.

Posted by: Archer at June 14, 2022 05:23 PM (gmo/4)

374 Wow, what timing, thank you Ace.
This is exactly why I will not be voting in today's
Nevada primary. Any vote for the future Republican NV senatorial candidate will be a vote for McConnell. I rather cut off my hands than give
this traitor one more ounce of power thru my vote in NV.

Going to go float in my pool to cool off now.
Thanks horde for letting me vent.

Posted by: Jett's Bets at June 14, 2022 05:23 PM (YZtd0)

375 Oh Crenshaw supports it??

Well thank you for your service!! It must be good! Have I mentioned I'm thanking you for your service?

Posted by: brak at June 14, 2022 05:23 PM (KR4lF)

376 Ben Shapiro once said that if congress mandates LGBTQWERTY indoctrination in schools, he will "pick up a gun" etc.

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No, he said if he can't escape pervert indoctrination at schools. If it's forced on him and his children.

Including if he can't escape it by moving out of state (i.e. the Congress part) or moving his kids to private schools.

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:24 PM (krQz2)

377 >>> 372 The collapse of Bitcoin and others is a good thing for the environment.
https://tinyurl.com/yup94ebf

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 14, 2022 05:20 PM (sy5kK)

I always thought they would shut down the internet.

Never occurred to me they'd just shut down the electricity
Posted by: golfman at June 14, 2022 05:23 PM (hOMhY)

*tee hee*

Posted by: Great Resetters at June 14, 2022 05:24 PM (llON8)

378 The same FBI that stopped Gretchen kidnapping in Michigan stopped an attack on a pride parade in Idaho? Yea right

Posted by: Yo! Ultra MAGA at June 14, 2022 05:24 PM (7uV5B)

379 363 336 Raising the age to 21 for semi auto rifles would have done a lot less damage ...
Posted by: Joe XiDen
----------------

Males don't start settling down until they are about 25.
Twenty five would be a better age to allow gun purchase.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 14, 2022 05:22 PM (utM8c)

Brains don't fully develop in normal humans until about 30. Good age to peg for voting.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2022 05:24 PM (ynpvh)

380 "We need an organization that does nothing but protest outside the homes of douchebags like McConnell and the Prancing Dandy form South Carolina."

I would definitely donate to that.

Posted by: doesky2 at June 14, 2022 05:24 PM (AHHU1)

381 378 The same FBI that stopped Gretchen kidnapping in Michigan stopped an attack on a pride parade in Idaho? Yea right

Posted by: Yo! Ultra MAGA at June 14, 2022 05:24 PM (7uV5B)

They can't help themselves, it's what they do.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2022 05:24 PM (ynpvh)

382
I'm increasingly convinced that Allahpundit is actually a middle-aged bottle-blonde stay-at-home wife with a line of credit to Gallo Wineries.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 14, 2022 05:25 PM (4o16k)

383 322 Sen. Ron Johnson wants me to help re-elect him.

Nope. Instead of voting on Nov. 8th, I'm going to get drunk and rant on AoSHQ. Because fuck them.
Posted by: lowandslow at June 14, 2022 05:16 PM (qH6FZ)
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I'm voting for him without hesitation because I know the WI Dem field and they are AOC level's of lib crazy and that includes the Billionaires son.

Posted by: WisRich at June 14, 2022 05:25 PM (G0vdT)

384 363 336 Raising the age to 21 for semi auto rifles would have done a lot less damage ...
Posted by: Joe XiDen
----------------
Males don't start settling down until they are about 25.
Twenty five would be a better age to allow gun purchase.
Posted by: Braenyard at June 14, 2022 05:22 PM

I'm okay with making legal adulthood start at 25, including voting rights. But it's an all-or-nothing proposition: once you reach legal adulthood, you get access to all of your rights.

Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 14, 2022 05:25 PM (JCZqz)

385 Got a vindictive ex or maybe just a neighbor who doesn't like where you park? You too could "benefit the country" some day.

Can you just see the TV ads? "Let Shyster and Shyster help file Your red flag report".

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at June 14, 2022 05:25 PM (l70U7)

386 Would jesus own an AR-15?
Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at June 14, 2022 05:20 PM (TKtGF)
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Would Jesus own a Tesla?

https://answersforthingstherearenoanswersfor.org/

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:25 PM (krQz2)

387 > Ridden?

"I have ridden horses," seems correct to me.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 05:25 PM (kDGvA)

388 >>> 381 378 The same FBI that stopped Gretchen kidnapping in Michigan stopped an attack on a pride parade in Idaho? Yea right

Posted by: Yo! Ultra MAGA at June 14, 2022 05:24 PM (7uV5B)

They can't help themselves, it's what they do.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2022 05:24 PM (ynpvh)

Hey! We are SMAHHHHRT and we want respect!!

Posted by: Top Men and Whammen of the Eff.Bee.EYE at June 14, 2022 05:25 PM (llON8)

389 357 @320 Would jesus own an AR-15?
Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at June 14, 2022 05:20 PM (TKtGF)

He doesn't need one for obvious reasons. But not like God stopped striking people dead in the New Testament. Kinda like asking whether the Army would own grandma pistols.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at June 14, 2022 05:25 PM (b2nrj)

390 How stupid is the left? They are terrified of AR-15's, Yet my mini-14 is cool. Their capabilities are exactly the same.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 14, 2022 05:26 PM (QSjkU)

391 My lord...just realized the AI is named LAMDA, like lambda the greek letter the gays use co-opted. I knew there was something queer about that AI...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2022 05:21 PM
++++
It's a play on lambda from "lambda calculus" (alternative formalization of the concept of an algorithm due to Church (alternative to Turing machines). They're provably equivalent).

LaMDA is ghey though.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at June 14, 2022 05:26 PM (vcv8B)

392 How many sleazy divorce lawyers

Redundancy on display.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at June 14, 2022 05:26 PM (E+jR2)

393 I have not read an Anal Pundit piece in a few years. He still has the same voice, like he is too good for his job.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at June 14, 2022 05:26 PM (vN+oL)

394 Assholes, all of these Red Flag supporters.

Including DJT? Remember "First get the guns. Then worry about due process."?

Posted by: Oddbob at June 14, 2022 05:26 PM (nfrXX)

395 @351

>>Everything sounds way too fishy.

These dudes are fresh off the boat from Quantico.

They all seem to be 6 ft tall, 180 pounds, slim fit build, uni's pressed and dressed to the nines.

If it walks like an Op and Quacks like an Op, it's an Op.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 14, 2022 05:26 PM (MMvbB)

396 382
I'm increasingly convinced that Allahpundit is actually a middle-aged bottle-blonde stay-at-home wife with a line of credit to Gallo Wineries.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 14, 2022 05:25 PM (4o16k)

Does he own a brown bikini?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2022 05:27 PM (ynpvh)

397 >>> 382
I'm increasingly convinced that Allahpundit is actually a middle-aged bottle-blonde stay-at-home wife with a line of credit to Gallo Wineries.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 14, 2022 05:25 PM (4o16k)

Allahpundit is Ann Althouse??

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 14, 2022 05:27 PM (llON8)

398 Red Flag laws are a million times worse than a 10 round mag limit.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 05:21 PM (kDGvA)

No, both are equally awful.

Posted by: Nova local at June 14, 2022 05:27 PM (exHjb)

399 I was born with a red flag. There's a red flag on my birth certificate.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 14, 2022 05:27 PM (BP3/z)

400 The same FBI that stopped Gretchen kidnapping in Michigan stopped an attack on a pride parade in Idaho? Yea right
Posted by: Yo! Ultra MAGA at June 14, 2022 05:24 PM (7uV5B)
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Like an alcoholic stops drinking.

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:27 PM (krQz2)

401 I mean sure, semi-auto rifles have been around since 1885 but let's raise the age of ownership to 21 or higher for rifles because if there's any way we're ever going to win the battle against gun control it's by accepting every stupid premise the Left trots out.

"We need to ban guns because a handful of people somewhere misused them."

"We need to raise the age for rifle ownership to 21 or higher because a handful of people somewhere misused them."

Brilliance.....

Posted by: Azathoth at June 14, 2022 05:27 PM (wb1YC)

402 Good age to peg

PHRASING

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at June 14, 2022 05:27 PM (l70U7)

403 293 "I doubt the peon staffer who reads it will care and I have four years to wait before I can make good on it in any case."

Yep, I have been hammering them with all the GOA and NRA emails. I've called (bastards never pick up) and left messages (one was extra spicy and may have melted the phone in his office).

Luckily for Cornyn, I do not have the power to reach into the TV screen and pull his heart right out of his chest. If I did, I'd be having a Cornyn Beef sandwich right now.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at June 14, 2022 05:27 PM (cCxiu)

404 If you identify as a red flag, is that a red flag?

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:27 PM (krQz2)

405 For those interested in SCOTUS views on taking away guns "for your own good" without due process, you'll be encouraged by this 9-0 opinion from Justice Thomas in [i[Caniglia, from 2020

https://tinyurl.com/3t3vj937

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at June 14, 2022 05:28 PM (9nadL)

406 How stupid is the left? They are terrified of AR-15's, Yet my mini-14 is cool. Their capabilities are exactly the same.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 14, 2022 05:26 PM (QSjkU)
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AR 15 in the hands of an average American.

Bolt action Mosin-Nagant rifle in the hands of Simo Hayha.

Which is more deadly?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at June 14, 2022 05:28 PM (5pTK/)

407 Jesus was more of a Sig guy.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 14, 2022 05:22 PM (12jgO)

Naaa.
Israeli Arms.

Posted by: Diogenes at June 14, 2022 05:29 PM (anj39)

408 > How stupid is the left? They are terrified of AR-15's, Yet my mini-14 is cool. Their capabilities are exactly the same.

Oh, lawd. I engaged a lefty idiot on Twatter about this. He claimed, and I'm not making this up, that he had personally fired both, and that a mini-14 was totally different. He said that at 30-40 feet, a bullet fired from an AR-15 would penetrate a body, and a bullet fired from a mini-14 would not penetrate a body.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 05:29 PM (kDGvA)

409 Raising the voting age would improve the country.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 14, 2022 05:29 PM (44ww/)

410 Allahpundit is Ann Althouse??
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 14, 2022 05:27 PM (llON

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Heh.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at June 14, 2022 05:29 PM (5pTK/)

411 Would jesus own an AR-15?

no

50bmg

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 14, 2022 05:29 PM (09PgH)

412 GOPe.will.always.betray.you.

Also, AP is right in the fact that the cake is baked as far as the November elections. Things are so bad for the Dems that the Repubs will win regardless. That's actually a bad thing since it relieves the GOP from actually trying to DO anything to pushback on the leftist agenda coming out of D.C.

Posted by: desertgardens at June 14, 2022 05:29 PM (MtQEC)

413 Allahpundit is Ann Althouse??
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 14, 2022 05:27 PM (llON

It would explain SO much.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at June 14, 2022 05:29 PM (4o16k)

414 What an absolute pussy Richard Burr turned out to be.

Posted by: ballistic at June 14, 2022 05:29 PM (oXNqT)

415 Bolt action Mosin-Nagant rifle in the hands of Simo Hayha.

Which is more deadly?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at June 14, 2022 05:28 PM (5pTK/)

I'll take the White Death for $500 Alex

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at June 14, 2022 05:29 PM (OgrpQ)

416 Yesterday I read here that Crenshaw flipped on red flag law.
Now he is for it again?

Posted by: Glenn John at June 14, 2022 05:29 PM (HKku6)

417 Jeebus. Nonsense. "Nothing" = you know, actually, *nothing*. That's exactly what the GOP should have given the Dems here. Extending background checks (which overall do no good whatsoever) to include minors' criminal records should have been it. So, nothing+.

There isn't anything the least bit "shrewd" about McConnell's behavior, now or earlier. Jeebus, again. He and his party merely benefit from circumstances or, more importantly, the histrionic awfulness of their opponents. He was key in hobbling and squandering the most important election in modern history, 2016, to the massive detriment of the country.

rhomboid's rule of thumb, which is even more obvious than most things I have figured out: the worse the Dems are, the worse the GOP can, and will, be.

"Moderate" (i.e., stupid and/or misinformed) GOP voters have no where to go - just like everyone else in a dead "two-party system". Especially this cycle. Therefore there is no need to throw them anything.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2022 05:29 PM (OTzUX)

418 If they want to open up juvie records for gun purchases, so be it. Anything more restrictive won't survive court challenges, where essentially common carry is the court's opinion on 2A.

Posted by: Black JEM at June 14, 2022 05:30 PM (LyTO1)

419 >>> 408 > How stupid is the left? They are terrified of AR-15's, Yet my mini-14 is cool. Their capabilities are exactly the same.

Oh, lawd. I engaged a lefty idiot on Twatter about this. He claimed, and I'm not making this up, that he had personally fired both, and that a mini-14 was totally different. He said that at 30-40 feet, a bullet fired from an AR-15 would penetrate a body, and a bullet fired from a mini-14 would not penetrate a body.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 05:29 PM (kDGvA)

WTF, did he claim it would bounce off?? Stan must be proud of these retards.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 14, 2022 05:30 PM (llON8)

420 Volvo Lambda-sond hardest hit

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at June 14, 2022 05:30 PM (l70U7)

421 Some people never grow up and should never have a gun. Why penalize the rest of us?

Posted by: fd at June 14, 2022 05:30 PM (vrz2I)

422 So what exactly do we get in return? When I negotiate each side gets something. I ask again, tell me what we get out of this deal?

Posted by: Beartooth at June 14, 2022 05:30 PM (AeMVC)

423 I wonder if the Red Flag part has a pathway to restitution for those wrongly accused?

Posted by: Diogenes at June 14, 2022 05:30 PM (anj39)

424 Oh, lawd. I engaged a lefty idiot on Twatter about this. He claimed, and I'm not making this up, that he had personally fired both, and that a mini-14 was totally different. He said that at 30-40 feet, a bullet fired from an AR-15 would penetrate a body, and a bullet fired from a mini-14 would not penetrate a body.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 05:29 PM (kDGvA)
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Wow, that doesn't even rise to the level of a stupid lie.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at June 14, 2022 05:30 PM (5pTK/)

425 Would jesus own an AR-15?

No. 1873 SAA "Peacemakers"

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at June 14, 2022 05:30 PM (E+jR2)

426 @411

>>Would jesus own an AR-15? no. 50bmg.

Phased Plasma Rifle in the 100 watt range.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 14, 2022 05:30 PM (MMvbB)

427 5- bmg with a baynet

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 14, 2022 05:30 PM (09PgH)

428 AR 15 in the hands of an average American.

Bolt action Mosin-Nagant rifle in the hands of Simo Hayha.

Which is more deadly?

I'm pretty sure Hayha also used an SMG in most of his kills.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 05:30 PM (kDGvA)

429 AR 15 in the hands of an average American.

Bolt action Mosin-Nagant rifle in the hands of Simo Hayha.

Which is more deadly?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at June 14, 2022 05:28 PM (5pTK/)

Ill take fellow Arkie Carlos Hathcock with a scoped model 70 Winchester at 1000 yards.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 14, 2022 05:30 PM (QSjkU)

430 Every time I hear or see in print the words "Civil War," there's an image of grim-faced Confederates marching under the Stars and Bars toward certain peril at the hands of Yankee Invaders....or of equally determined boys in blue turning back the howling mobs of rebels at bayonet point. Whatever, you get the idea. It's romanticism, and it's bullshit. This is not a sectional struggle, North versus South, west, East, etc. It's not a racial struggle, either. But it is a struggle, a serious one, and one that we are neck deep into. The "Struggle for the Soul of America" under the Bidenistas has shown that soul to be cowardly, venal, vituperous and thoroughly corrupt. And utterly destructive of the existing social contract which is our Constitution. They have no regard for it, no love of it, and no real love for their country or countrymen. They are the quisling lapdogs of China, Iran and Klaus Schwab. Money, comfort, status - and you get boned for their privileges. Makes me head spin.

Posted by: Erik In Texas at June 14, 2022 05:31 PM (2Jd8G)

431 50 bmg with a baynet

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 14, 2022 05:31 PM (09PgH)

432 Ace, check out David Cole's latest article about our upcoming Long Covid Overlords over at Takimag.

www.takimag.com/article/calamity-of-so-long-covid/

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at June 14, 2022 05:31 PM (M9XmQ)

433 401 I mean sure, semi-auto rifles have been around since 1885...
Posted by: Azathoth at June 14, 2022 05:27 PM (wb1YC)

Lewis and Clark had Girandoni air-rifles on their expedition. Fired many rounds until the air pressure dropped. There was also the Puckle gun, automatic weapon from the 1700's.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2022 05:31 PM (ynpvh)

434 Will we have the votes to get rid of McConnel?

Posted by: Tommy V at June 14, 2022 05:31 PM (GCivW)

435 Oh, lawd. I engaged a lefty idiot on Twatter about this. He claimed, and I'm not making this up, that he had personally fired both, and that a mini-14 was totally different. He said that at 30-40 feet, a bullet fired from an AR-15 would penetrate a body, and a bullet fired from a mini-14 would not penetrate a body.
Posted by: bonhomme

Did you tell him you own both and it's the same bullet?

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at June 14, 2022 05:31 PM (E+jR2)

436 I was born with a red flag. There's a red flag on my birth certificate.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 14, 2022 05:27 PM (BP3/z)
------------
Born under a bad sign...

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 14, 2022 05:32 PM (aaGzp)

437 Probably an AK because everybody lived in the dirt back then and maintenance was an issue.

Posted by: fd at June 14, 2022 05:32 PM (vrz2I)

438 The YOLO Republicans--liberals who know that next January the party will officially belong to Trump.

For all their "we're smart people," they've had 5+ years to take "their" party back. And failed.

2024 will be Second Generation, "The Super MAGA." And the leading issues will be rolling back ... liberal Republican bills.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at June 14, 2022 05:32 PM (Zf0+a)

439 And the RINO fucks got JUST enough of them so that the ones up for re-election like Murkowski don't actually have to vote for it.

Fuck McConnell and every one of the GOPe slime.

Posted by: DudeAbiding at June 14, 2022 05:32 PM (AjL/0)

440 I've never been sadder that polio lost.

Posted by: OfCourseNot at June 14, 2022 05:32 PM (1uyHo)

441 > WTF, did he claim it would bounce off?? Stan must be proud of these retards.

I've no idea if he meant "go into" or "go through" when he said "penetrate." I stopped engaging him after laughing at him.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 05:32 PM (kDGvA)

442 Oh, lawd. I engaged a lefty idiot on Twatter about this. He claimed, and I'm not making this up, that he had personally fired both, and that a mini-14 was totally different. He said that at 30-40 feet, a bullet fired from an AR-15 would penetrate a body, and a bullet fired from a mini-14 would not penetrate a body.
Posted by: bonhomme

****

These are the people that are really convinced that they're going to win the next civil war.

Posted by: Azathoth at June 14, 2022 05:32 PM (wb1YC)

443 "Honestly, IF we are going to have background checks, the sealing of juvenile records is stupid.
I have zero objection to addressing this, and I'm about as rightward on gun rights as I can be."

Does your opinion change if the unsealing is only done for white folks while POC remain sealed because that's essentially how this will be implemented by the woke state bureaucracies? Essentially two sets of laws depending on your political profile. That's how it's done today.

Posted by: doesky2 at June 14, 2022 05:32 PM (AHHU1)

444 Last match with the Mosin was a horror show. Demanding targets, sure, but still. No excuse. I've got a pile of Soviet surplus ammo, a range to use any time I want. First time I didn't essentially match all the guys with those weird looking black plastic and aluminum things with some kind of scope on top.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2022 05:32 PM (OTzUX)

445 Oh, lawd. I engaged a lefty idiot on Twatter about this. He claimed, and I'm not making this up, that he had personally fired both, and that a mini-14 was totally different. He said that at 30-40 feet, a bullet fired from an AR-15 would penetrate a body, and a bullet fired from a mini-14 would not penetrate a body.
Posted by: bonhomme

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I understand that the mini-14 is 70% less traumatic than firing an AR-15.

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:33 PM (krQz2)

446 I'm okay with making legal adulthood start at 25, including voting rights. But it's an all-or-nothing proposition: once you reach legal adulthood, you get access to all of your rights.
Posted by: Moron Analyst at June 14, 2022 05:25 PM (JCZqz)
==
Which is what will derail parts of this thing.

Posted by: Black JEM at June 14, 2022 05:33 PM (LyTO1)

447 Salty opinions and serious stuff.

I still think the Squad will kill the bill because it does not go far enough for them.

We shall see. But not voting gave us Biden and the Dem majority, along with the newest Supreme Court Justice.

I will vote, even if it is for a third party candidate.

Posted by: Czech Chick at June 14, 2022 05:33 PM (haWye)

448 I'm okay with making legal adulthood start at 25, including voting rights. But it's an all-or-nothing proposition: once you reach legal adulthood, you get access to all of your rights.

in fairness, that is because you are too old to have sex with 18 yr olds

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 14, 2022 05:33 PM (09PgH)

449
Please, stop posting specifics about what firearms you own on the interweb. The rest of you too. I do not think it is wise to volunteer that information. I do not trust the government.

Posted by: Archer at June 14, 2022 05:23 PM (gmo/4)

I have a fully semi auto glock with the thing that goes up.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 14, 2022 05:34 PM (26tlC)

450 Can you just see the TV ads? "Let Shyster and Shyster help file Your red flag report".
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at June 14, 2022 05:25 PM (l70U7)

Followed by the ad for Dewey, Chatham, and Howe, claiming they'll fight for YOU to overturn your ex-wife's red flag claim, so you can get the gun rights you deserve!

Posted by: BurtTC at June 14, 2022 05:34 PM (zPGLA)

451 > Did you tell him you own both and it's the same bullet?

No, I laughed at him and stopped engaging him. Life's too short.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 05:34 PM (kDGvA)

452 379 363 336 Raising the age to 21 for semi auto rifles would have done a lot less damage ...
Posted by: Joe XiDen
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Males don't start settling down until they are about 25.
Twenty five would be a better age to allow gun purchase.
Posted by: Braenyard at June 14, 2022 05:22 PM (utM8c)
Brains don't fully develop in normal humans until about 30. Good age to peg for voting.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at June 14, 2022 05:24 PM (ynpvh)

The Constitution says you have to be at least 25 years old to directly vote on the country going to war, the national budget, and everything else the US Government does. Once again, over 200 years ago a small group of white guys may have known something about human nature that is ageless (no pun intended).

Posted by: tuesday already? at June 14, 2022 05:34 PM (AMIL/)

453 2024 will be Second Generation, "The Super MAGA." And the leading issues will be rolling back ... liberal Republican bills.
__

Gotta get to 2024 first.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at June 14, 2022 05:34 PM (v896E)

454 Oh, lawd. I engaged a lefty idiot on Twatter about this. He claimed, and I'm not making this up, that he had personally fired both, and that a mini-14 was totally different. He said that at 30-40 feet, a bullet fired from an AR-15 would penetrate a body, and a bullet fired from a mini-14 would not penetrate a body.

I'd give him the benefit of the doubt if he was willing to stand 100 feet away from your mini 14 to test his hypothesis.

Posted by: Darwin Awards at June 14, 2022 05:35 PM (cCxiu)

455 If it walks like an Op and Quacks like an Op, it's an Op.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 14, 2022 05:26 PM (MMvbB)

The one guy the press (AP and CBS) have glommed onto seems to be this guy Wagner from St. Louis. Supposedly, he committed an act of vandalism on a mural at a college there and was arrested in Dec 2021 - but no mug shot is available and no court date set. The mug shot from this arrest in Idaho is what AP is using. The guy's lawyer for the vandalism charge has not been to court with him or even represented him yet on the matter, but he's getting quoted. The guy hasn't even called the lawyer about the Idaho incident. Is this even the same fucking guy? I am beginning to doubt it - otherwise he's being used a prop to give a thin veneer of plausibility this PF group could exist outside halls of the FBI HQ in DC.

Posted by: Boswell at June 14, 2022 05:35 PM (5iUNf)

456 Remember Doc in Back to the Future saying "Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads"?

Jesus doesn't need a gun.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 14, 2022 05:35 PM (KZzsI)

457 se, stop posting specifics about what firearms you own on the interweb. The rest of you too. I do not think it is wise to volunteer that information. I do not trust the government.

Posted by: Archer at June 14, 2022 05:23 PM (gmo/4)

I have a fully semi auto glock with the thing that goes up.
Posted by: J

in fairness, dude, they know

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 14, 2022 05:35 PM (09PgH)

458 "264 Red flag laws will make sure everyone is crazy.

"You want to own a gun? That's crazy! Next".

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at June 14, 2022 05:09 PM (l70U7) "

another book that was a warning, now an instruction manual;
Catch - 22

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - ultra maga ftw ! at June 14, 2022 05:35 PM (QkMYt)

459 CNN Contributor Bill Press: ‘Just Get Rid’ of 2nd Amendment

THIS is why any "compromise" with the left is impossible and will only wet their appetite

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 14, 2022 05:35 PM (Irn0L)

460 These idiots that love Electric cars are about to get screwed up the ass. The machinery to mine the required minerals to produce the EV battery pack use oil based fuel.
So no minerals, no Teslas or and other EV.. Good job Blo Jiden.

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at June 14, 2022 05:36 PM (1jWYl)

461 Tell me again what Republicans get here... ?

Oh, after the next notorious gun crime, the media won't screech...

YES THEY FUCKING WILL, YOU RETARD

Posted by: deadrody at June 14, 2022 05:36 PM (SnywI)

462 Remember Doc in Back to the Future saying "Roads? Where we're going, we don't need roads"?

Jesus doesn't need a gun.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 14, 2022 05:35 PM (KZzsI)
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Next time we see him, he's got a whole sky of firepower.

Common-sense Jesus control.

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:36 PM (krQz2)

463 Will we have the votes to get rid of McConnel?
Posted by: Tommy V at June 14, 2022 05:31 PM (GCivW)

No, that's the problem. Even if the 33 or 34 (R)'s running all vow not to support him as Senate Leader, they'll turn around and do it once they get elected. Leadership fights aren't the hill to die on and all that.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 14, 2022 05:36 PM (qH6FZ)

464 These are the people that are really convinced that they're going to win the next civil war.
Posted by: Azathoth

They want to start a revolution. They can't start a lawnmower.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at June 14, 2022 05:36 PM (E+jR2)

465 The un-ending un-dying infinite ignorance and lies of the twatter.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at June 14, 2022 05:37 PM (44ww/)

466 >>>Born under a bad sign...

>The head nurse spoke up. She said, "Leave this one alone." She could tell right away...

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 14, 2022 05:37 PM (BP3/z)

467 Beartooth, that's an impertinent question. At least for those party-drones who are clueless about politics and yet find crafty skill in every laughable dereliction by the GOP. It is safe to assume the thought literally never crossed their minds going into the "negotiations".

And Diogenes, I think in places that have implemented the extremely dubious "red flag" crap, there are appeals and restitution, at least on paper.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2022 05:37 PM (OTzUX)

468 I have a fully semi auto glock with the thing that goes up.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 14, 2022 05:34 PM (26tlC)
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Callahan full-bore auto-lock. Customized trigger. Double cartridge thorough gauge. It is my very favorite gun.

Posted by: Jayne Cobb at June 14, 2022 05:37 PM (aaGzp)

469 Jesus doesn't need a gun.

in fairness, the second amendment is not about need it is about want.

besides, there was a tv show where he would gun guys in the knees because he was against violnce

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 14, 2022 05:37 PM (09PgH)

470 This is precisely why it must be Trump again in 2024. He's loathed by all the right people, including the weasels attempting to force through this gun grab. If anyone else--including DeSantis, whom I do like--gets the nomination in 2024, the GOP establishment cucks and donors will take it as a sign that the base is no longer to be feared and will go back to their slimy swamp tricks.

Posted by: Liz Cheney's Dick at June 14, 2022 05:37 PM (chL32)

471 In the interest of bipartisanship Mitch will demand, DEMAND that all boxcars that transport us to The Camps will have ample buckets aboard so that we can relieve ourselves with minimal comfort.

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at June 14, 2022 05:37 PM (t/4Zp)

472 Hmm, the foot soldiers of the left think they'll win a civil war.

Meanwhile, Democrats and the GOPe are moving to disarm Joe and Jane Average American.

I suggest that might just be a "tell" as to how those in charge think things will turn out, should CWII kick off.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at June 14, 2022 05:37 PM (5pTK/)

473 459 CNN Contributor Bill Press: ‘Just Get Rid’ of 2nd Amendment

****

Bill Press doesn't get nearly enough attention for how absolutely f****** stupid he is.

Posted by: Azathoth at June 14, 2022 05:37 PM (wb1YC)

474 ' ...
WTF, did he claim it would bounce off?? Stan must be proud of these retards.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at June 14, 2022 05:30 PM (llON

"

oh he is, never doubt it. faithful disciples all.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - ultra maga ftw ! at June 14, 2022 05:38 PM (QkMYt)

475 Common-sense Jesus control.
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:36 PM (krQz2)

We can't control Jesus. We can only hope to contain him.

Posted by: Hells' Defensive Coordinator at June 14, 2022 05:38 PM (vN+oL)

476 The day after this crapshow passes

We need commonsense gun laws.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 14, 2022 05:38 PM (12jgO)

477 Raymond Burr
Aaron Burr
Burr Rabbit

Posted by: Braenyard at June 14, 2022 05:38 PM (utM8c)

478 Only saving grace here is that OK has a "no red flag laws" law. And I will be enthusiastically voting for the writer if that bill (as well as the 6wk abortion ban bill) Nathan Dahm in the upcoming senate primary race.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 14, 2022 05:38 PM (MGB5H)

479 He said that at 30-40 feet, a bullet fired from an AR-15 would penetrate a body, and a bullet fired from a mini-14 would not penetrate a body.

Posted by: Darwin AwardsThis

Maybe coz his aim is that bad

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 14, 2022 05:38 PM (kf6Ak)

480 358 Red Flag laws are a million times worse than a 10 round mag limit.
Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 05:21 PM
+++++
I dispute your parade of horribles. But regardless, they're not *federal* red flag laws. It's *funding* for states to help them implement red flag laws as some 19 states have already done.

How many states do you think wouldn't implement red flag laws but for the federal govt assistance? I'm going with 0 +/- 0. Ergo, the one piece of the legislation we all loathe is in fact irrelevant.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at June 14, 2022 05:39 PM (vcv8B)

481 459 CNN Contributor Bill Press: ‘Just Get Rid’ of 2nd Amendment

THIS is why any "compromise" with the left is impossible and will only wet their appetite
Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 14, 2022 05:35 PM (Irn0L)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Why do these dipshits act like that would be so simple ? I mean, sure, it could be. It's a one sentence bill. Get on with it. I'd sure be curious what jackasses would actually vote for it - IN CONGRESS. I bet they couldn't pass that with a simple majority. Nevermind the 2/3 vote it takes to pass an amendment.

There is less than zero chance you could then get 38 states to agree.

But yeah, let's just pontificate on something there is ZERO chance of happening.

Posted by: deadrody at June 14, 2022 05:39 PM (SnywI)

482 CNN Contributor Bill Press: ‘Just Get Rid’ of 2nd Amendment

At least he seems to understand what's standing in the way of his Utopia even if the "just" betrays his lack of understanding what it would take to get there.

Posted by: Oddbob at June 14, 2022 05:39 PM (nfrXX)

483 se, stop posting specifics about what firearms you own on the interweb. The rest of you too. I do not think it is wise to volunteer that information. I do not trust the government.

Posted by: Archer

I tell people:

I don't own any guns. I turned them all in to the "No Questions Asked" gun buy back for grocery cards.

Go ask Austin PD. Now quit bothering me about guns I own.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at June 14, 2022 05:39 PM (E+jR2)

484 These idiots that love Electric cars are about to get screwed up the ass. The machinery to mine the required minerals to produce the EV battery pack use oil based fuel.
So no minerals, no Teslas or and other EV.. Good job Blo Jiden.
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at June 14, 2022 05:36 PM (1jWYl)
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Saw an article that said it takes about 1.7 million gallons of gas to keep a lithium mine running and a single EV takes about 250 tons of raw material (I think that includes trailings).

Not "green". Not "renewable". This is why EVs are only a way station. Once they get all your energy coming through the spigot, that's the time to turn the spigot down.

You'll have a measurable ~~brownspot~~carbon footprint that they can govern at their leisure.

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:39 PM (krQz2)

485 The red flag laws were a great start, but they didn't go far enough. We need basic commonsense reforms.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 14, 2022 05:39 PM (12jgO)

486 we need red flag laws for the 19th amendment

Posted by: x at June 14, 2022 05:39 PM (uQFwj)

487 There are not two political parties in the US.

There are just two branches of the same party arguing over how fast we should move left.

This is typical of the "compromises" that the GOP negotiates whereby the left gets stuff they want and we get nothing.

I was telling someone on Instapundit that all the Republicans being ahead in the polls means is that they will feel emboldened to enact more of their true agenda, which includes advancing on gun control. I was amazed they still could not see this.

Posted by: Thatch at June 14, 2022 05:39 PM (qWceQ)

488 460 These idiots that love Electric cars are about to get screwed up the ass. The machinery to mine the required minerals to produce the EV battery pack use oil based fuel.
So no minerals, no Teslas or and other EV.. Good job Blo Jiden.
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at June 14, 2022 05:36 PM (1jWYl)
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And has any liberal actually seen a lithium mine? Puts strip mining to shame. They'll go into denial real quick.

Posted by: WisRich at June 14, 2022 05:40 PM (G0vdT)

489 > CNN Contributor Bill Press: ‘Just Get Rid’ of 2nd Amendment

If we're going to start scrapping the Bill of Rights, I vote we "just get rid" of communists.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 14, 2022 05:40 PM (bW8dp)

490 Of course I didn't bother to monitor/check directly, given the odds and the effort involved, but did any of the worthless miniature mediocrities of the Senate GOP (that would be all but one or two) even respond to the astonishing slander the idiot Schumer barfed up on the floor?

The one about "there can never be enough blood" for opponents of gun confiscation?

1,000 years ago, in a different country, that kind of talk itself would have been out of order on the floor and led to censure. Now? Nothing. And, as I'm asking, I believe that includes literally not a word in response from the GOP. Just to add redundant data to the Everest of same substantiating how cartoonishly pathetic the GOP is.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2022 05:40 PM (OTzUX)

491 I just looked at emails from the Republicans, only a couple in the past two days, nothing about "help us fight the Dems so you can keep most of your guns for the time being"

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at June 14, 2022 05:41 PM (Ynyl9)

492 The Left hates AR-15 coz it's all black and scary looking
Mini 14 is nice with a blonde wood barrel

they're rayciss

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 14, 2022 05:41 PM (kf6Ak)

493 https://thefederalist.com/politifact spreads misinformation on red-flag-laws and due process

Posted by: Skip at June 14, 2022 05:41 PM (2JoB8)

494
Is it time to get rid of Mitch McConnell or do we have to go through another round of "But judges"?

i'm late. my position is to recall him.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (UgAdJ) - at June 14, 2022 05:41 PM (UgAdJ)

495 Not "green". Not "renewable". This is why EVs are only a way station. Once they get all your energy coming through the spigot, that's the time to turn the spigot down.

You'll have a measurable brownspotcarbon footprint that they can govern at their leisure.
Posted by: Axeman

Someone needs to whisper in their ear about how food is made and delivered. Their precious Whole Paycheck Market will be out of food before Wal Mart.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at June 14, 2022 05:41 PM (E+jR2)

496 > I understand that the mini-14 is 70% less traumatic than firing an AR-15.

People should only be allowed to buy AR-10s.

They're 5 ARs safer.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at June 14, 2022 05:41 PM (bW8dp)

497 CNN Contributor Bill Press: ‘Just Get Rid’ of 2nd Amendment
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Yeah.

How's that done?

I'm not sure he contributes.

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:41 PM (krQz2)

498 Selling like cold cakes?

Jordan
@JordanChariton
So the @dnc had to move a May fundraiser with VP Kamala Harris to the fall because "they couldn't sell enough tickets."

Tough sledding when even the donors aren't buying what you're selling.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, That's AnonosaurX WrX, hater! at June 14, 2022 05:42 PM (FVME7)

499 Fucknuts like Bill Press still push the like about 2A being about racist militias and not an individual right. Because 8 of the first 9 amendments are individual rights. But for some reason #2 is about groups.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 14, 2022 05:42 PM (26tlC)

500 Red Wave coming!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at June 14, 2022 05:42 PM (/vEB8)

501 I'd give him the benefit of the doubt if he was willing to stand 100 feet away from your mini 14 to test his hypothesis.
Posted by: Darwin Awards at June 14, 2022 05:35 PM (cCxiu)

Hell, give him 300 feet. Don't want to scare him.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 14, 2022 05:42 PM (QSjkU)

502 i'm late. my position is to recall him.
Posted by: BifBewalski @ (UgAdJ) - at June 14, 2022 05:41 PM (UgAdJ)

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You misspelled "knout."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 14, 2022 05:43 PM (ZRrE6)

503 Axeman all the Gaia Religious people is they don't go to gas stations

Posted by: Skip at June 14, 2022 05:43 PM (2JoB8)

504 > Maybe coz his aim is that bad

I had the same thought. Some mini-14s can be tricky. Maybe he tried an AR that was suited to him and he could hit the target. Maybe he tried a mini-14 that he was a terrible shot with and missed the target. Maybe his dumb brain concluded, "This mini-14 is so weak, it's not even throwing rounds out to 100 yards!"

Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 05:43 PM (kDGvA)

505 How stupid is the left? They are terrified of AR-15's, Yet my mini-14 is cool. Their capabilities are exactly the same.

Ban the AR-15, then go after the next firearm using the AR-15 as a precedent. It's pretty obvious that's how they'll play it.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at June 14, 2022 05:43 PM (Bd6X8)

506 The massive effort to build one Lithium Battery surpasses the carbon footprint of me driving my Corvette for at least 5 years..... The destruction of the earth, the slave labor, pollutants released to manufacture and mine the rare earth minerals in third world shit-holes surpasses anything a gasoline based vehicle emits into the atmosphere...

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at June 14, 2022 05:44 PM (1jWYl)

507 A national red flag law...it will never be overturned. Shiiit.

Posted by: runner at June 14, 2022 05:44 PM (U7TBY)

508 > Eric Swallwell's Chinese spy girlfriend liked Red flags too.

I get you good deal on red flags! As many you want!

Posted by: Gang Bang Wang Dang Sweet Poontang at June 14, 2022 05:44 PM (bW8dp)

509 That's quite a View.

Nicholas Fondacaro
@NickFondacaro
Speculating on who could be the GOP nominee in 2024, The View's Sunny Hostin lashes out at "DeathSantis."
"I think he handled COVID miserably. I think he's a fascist and a bigot...Those are his good points."
"I like Gavin Newsom because he's really pretty to look at," she added.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, That's AnonosaurX WrX, hater! at June 14, 2022 05:44 PM (FVME7)

510 CNN Contributor Bill Press: ‘Just Get Rid’ of 2nd Amendment

Let's just get rid of the Electoral College
Let's just get rid of ICE
Let's just get rid of the police
Let's just get rid of Nukes
Let's just get rid of the internal combustion engine
Let's just add more Supreme Court Justices
Let's just arrest people who disagree with us

Anything that get's in their way....

Posted by: JoeF. at June 14, 2022 05:44 PM (mR6Gs)

511 re 489: we can start with all those relatively recently discovered rights of the accused that allow judges to turn loose those who are clearly guilty of serious crimes.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at June 14, 2022 05:44 PM (Ynyl9)

512 Fucknuts like Bill Press still push the like about 2A being about racist militias and not an individual right. Because 8 of the first 9 amendments are individual rights. But for some reason #2 is about groups.

***

Or my personal favorite:

"Oh shit, Thomas! We totally forgot this bit about the right to go pheasant hunting. Can you maybe stick this in between those first two lines where there's some extra space? Thanks dude!"

Posted by: Azathoth at June 14, 2022 05:44 PM (wb1YC)

513 How stupid is the left? They are terrified of AR-15's, Yet my mini-14 is cool. Their capabilities are exactly the same.
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You're going to hurt somebody with that black plastic barrel shroud!

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:45 PM (krQz2)

514 Nicholas Fondacaro
@NickFondacaro
Speculating on who could be the GOP nominee in 2024, The View's Sunny Hostin lashes out at "DeathSantis."
"I think he handled COVID miserably. I think he's a fascist and a bigot...Those are his good points."
"I like Gavin Newsom because he's really pretty to look at," she added.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, That's AnonosaurX WrX, hater! at June 14, 2022 05:44 PM (FVME7)

We laugh, but that's a dangerous, poisonous show.

It gives dimwits ideas.

Posted by: JoeF. at June 14, 2022 05:45 PM (mR6Gs)

515 I mean, this was predictable, wasn't it?

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at June 14, 2022 05:45 PM (QYPq3)

516 Good job Blo Jiden.

If I didn't like these outcomes...

...don't you think I'd be firing a shit-ton of people?

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 14, 2022 05:45 PM (D6lWx)

517 Thanks for reading AP so I don't have to. I used to go there just for the comments, but now that is gone. No reason to visit that blowhard site.

Posted by: NJRob at June 14, 2022 05:45 PM (kDHk3)

518 remember, when criminals get shot, only shots will have criminals. My word as a Biden.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at June 14, 2022 05:46 PM (Ynyl9)

519 460 These idiots that love Electric cars are about to get screwed up the ass. The machinery to mine the required minerals to produce the EV battery pack use oil based fuel.
So no minerals, no Teslas or and other EV.. Good job Blo Jiden.
Posted by: Ferd Berfall at June 14, 2022 05:36 PM (1jWYl)

If they remain in power, The Idiots, aka The Junta, will eventually have to establish a hydrocarbon energy usage priority list. At the top of the list will be EV production and raw materials for EV production. At the bottom of the list will be non-critical private vehicles. (Meaning the cars owned by you and me.)

Posted by: tuesday already? at June 14, 2022 05:46 PM (AMIL/)

520 > I dispute your parade of horribles.

OK

> How many states do you think wouldn't implement red flag laws but for the federal govt assistance? I'm going with 0 +/- 0.

The states don't have a great track record of resisting the sweet siren call of fed money. I'll believe persuadable politicians will leave money on the table when monkeys fly.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 05:46 PM (kDGvA)

521 CNN Contributor Bill Press: ‘Just Get Rid’ of 2nd Amendment

Let's just get rid of the Electoral College
...
Let's just add more Supreme Court Justices
Let's just arrest people who disagree with us

Anything that get's in their way....
Posted by: JoeF. at June 14, 2022 05:44 PM (mR6Gs)
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Just EO that shit!

Posted by: Private Citizen Barack H. Obama at June 14, 2022 05:46 PM (krQz2)

522 Current set of Congressional Republicans are retards with no imagination.

Posted by: runner at June 14, 2022 05:46 PM (U7TBY)

523 Jordan
@JordanChariton
So the @dnc had to move a May fundraiser with VP Kamala Harris to the fall because "they couldn't sell enough tickets."
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Donor's thought "That's definitely not the same as it is downtown."

Posted by: WisRich at June 14, 2022 05:47 PM (G0vdT)

524 Current set of Congressional Republicans are retards with no imagination.
Posted by: runner at June 14, 2022 05:46 PM (U7TBY)

I get your point, but that might be a GOOD thing

Posted by: JoeF. at June 14, 2022 05:47 PM (mR6Gs)

525
You misspelled "knout."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

mea culpa, i'll see to it that it doesn't happen again

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (UgAdJ) - at June 14, 2022 05:47 PM (UgAdJ)

526 Crenshaw has shown a temper. Someone should red flag him to keep him from going off.
Posted by: Bete at June 14, 2022 04:39 PM (F9322)
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If it hasn't already been said, Crenshaw lost his eye in combat, no doubt he has PTSD.

Posted by: Darth Randall at June 14, 2022 05:47 PM (zL564)

527 You know who else supports gun control?

Lon Horiuchi

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 14, 2022 05:47 PM (dfCsg)

528 they're not *federal* red flag laws. It's *funding* for states to help them implement red flag laws as some 19 states have already done.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at June 14, 2022 05:39 PM (vcv8B)

hey everybody don't worry, *fedgov* isn't going to crush you, they're just giving funding to the states to help *them" crush you

Posted by: Hands at June 14, 2022 05:48 PM (786Ro)

529 Amber Heard's brilliant riposte!

https://bit.ly/3QqNsjQ

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, That's AnonosaurX WrX, hater! at June 14, 2022 05:48 PM (FVME7)

530 Allahpundits not afraid of being shot... By a cock.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 14, 2022 05:48 PM (ZRrE6)

531 @520

>>The Junta, will eventually have to establish a hydrocarbon energy usage priority list.

Why do I have Rush's, Red Barchetta, in my head?

Weird.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at June 14, 2022 05:48 PM (MMvbB)

532 505 I wonder if a certain cat,

Don't look at me!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 14, 2022 05:49 PM (12jgO)

533 I welcome all the ignorant discussion of "getting rid of the 2nd".
Go ahead, do the work. There is a process for it.
Let me know how that goes...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at June 14, 2022 05:49 PM (jTmQV)

534 They should have done what Roberts always does. Take it over and totally change it into opposite of intent. Morons.

Posted by: runner at June 14, 2022 05:49 PM (U7TBY)

535 re 507: wait till the internal combustion engine is gone, then they start to deal with your concerns. You'll enjoy getting to work on that horse-drawn trolley car, and think of all the high paying union jobs that will be created.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at June 14, 2022 05:49 PM (Ynyl9)

536 Amber Heard's brilliant riposte!

https://bit.ly/3QqNsjQ
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

The pooper of now being cut from aquaman 2 and they will reshoot with new actress

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 14, 2022 05:50 PM (MGB5H)

537 You know who would never let gun control bills through the Senate? Harry fucking Reid.

The GOPE is shit.

Posted by: The guy that moves pianos for a living at June 14, 2022 05:50 PM (xEXQ9)

538 I understand that the mini-14 is 70% less traumatic than firing an AR-15.
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:33 PM (krQz2

What about me?

Posted by: Mini 30 at June 14, 2022 05:50 PM (AeMVC)

539 > Just EO that shit!

There's a significant plurality of US dwellers who are confused as hell every moment Biden doesn't do this.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 05:50 PM (kDGvA)

540 494
Is it time to get rid of Mitch McConnell or do we have to go through another round of "But judges"?

i'm late. my position is to recall him.
Posted by: BifBewalski @
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Vote in enough Trumpers that the Senate Caucus in November votes him out of leadership.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 14, 2022 05:50 PM (utM8c)

541 CNN Contributor Bill Press: ‘Just Get Rid’ of 2nd Amendment

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Bill O'Reilly > Bill O'Rights

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, That's AnonosaurX WrX, hater! at June 14, 2022 05:51 PM (FVME7)

542 What guns?
Damn boating accident.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at June 14, 2022 05:51 PM (EtUFI)

543 They should have done what Roberts always does. Take it over and totally change it into opposite of intent. Morons.
Posted by: runner at June 14, 2022 05:49 PM (U7TBY)
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And the 3/5ths of states that stand to lose electoral power to the biggest states can ratify the amendment getting rid of the Electoral Collage.

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:51 PM (krQz2)

544 Heard is getting her comeuppance. Did you guys see my post on the other thread? dumped from Aquaman ii.

Posted by: runner at June 14, 2022 05:51 PM (U7TBY)

545 Fuck all of these R Senators. Not one of them has told McTurtle eat shit and die. Looking at you Hawley, Cruz, Cotton, et al. Fuck them all.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 14, 2022 05:51 PM (8rxS0)

546 You sound like my Dad. He's convinced himself that everything will turn out OK. Because to my Boomer Dad, everything has to turn out OK. And by OK, not directly touching him.

Posted by: The Emperor Has No Clothes

Delusion is the ultimate drug.

Posted by: SFGoth at June 14, 2022 05:51 PM (KAi1n)

547 If you still plan to vote for any GOP candidates this fall, you're a sucker. Any of them. The party needs to be left to wither on the vine.

Walk away. The only way we get rid of them is for the party to lose bigly. Yeah, it will suck. But the only way out is through.

Posted by: Nope at June 14, 2022 05:52 PM (LgQ2l)

548 And the 3/5ths of states that stand to lose electoral power to the biggest states can ratify the amendment getting rid of the Electoral Collage.
Posted by: Axeman

What are we talking about ??

Posted by: runner at June 14, 2022 05:52 PM (U7TBY)

549 dumped from Aquaman ii.
Posted by: runner

Dumped, huh?

Posted by: SFGoth at June 14, 2022 05:52 PM (KAi1n)

550 357 @320 Would jesus own an AR-15?
Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at June 14, 2022 05:20 PM (TKtGF)

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Funny, the left never asks "would Jesus support abortion?"

Posted by: LASue, occasional thought leader at June 14, 2022 05:52 PM (Ed8Zd)

551 And the 3/5ths of states that stand to lose electoral power to the biggest states can ratify the amendment getting rid of the Electoral Collage.
Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:51 PM (krQz2)
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Oregon and Washington would suck California's dick over this.

Sorry for the image.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 14, 2022 05:52 PM (aaGzp)

552 The pooper of now being cut from aquaman 2 and they will reshoot with new actress
Posted by: BruceWayne

She's hit rock bottom and is now blasting!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, That's AnonosaurX WrX, hater! at June 14, 2022 05:52 PM (FVME7)

553 Would jesus own an AR-15?
Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at June 14, 2022 05:20 PM (TKtGF)

Well there was this sweet little shop in hebron that would sell you one for 1/2 price if paid in shekels

Posted by: Nevergiveup at June 14, 2022 05:53 PM (Irn0L)

554 Amber Heard's brilliant riposte!

https://bit.ly/3QqNsjQ
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

You mean? Depp doesn't have scissors for hands? I am disappoint.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at June 14, 2022 05:53 PM (nByzo)

555 Heard is getting her comeuppance. Did you guys see my post on the other thread? dumped from Aquaman ii.
Posted by: runner at June 14, 2022 05:51 PM
+++++

Nice. I hope they recast Busty Brunette.

Posted by: quantum mechanic at June 14, 2022 05:53 PM (vcv8B)

556 Funny, the left never asks "would Jesus support abortion?"
Posted by: LASue, occasional thought leader at June 14, 2022 05:52 PM (Ed8Zd)
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According to some rant I recently read Jesus will condemn anybody who has anything bad to say about gay marriage. And they were using Matthew 19(!!).

Posted by: Axeman at June 14, 2022 05:53 PM (krQz2)

557 But I will no longer support Republicans

Posted by: Chicago Vota at June 14, 2022 05:55 PM (ts6Zs)

558 hey everybody don't worry, *fedgov* isn't going to crush you, they're just giving funding to the states to help *them" crush you
Posted by: Hands at June 14, 2022 05:48 PM (786Ro)

All paid for by YOU THE TAXPAYER..

Stop crushing yourself. Stop crushing yourself. Stop crushing yourself.

HAh HAh

- Govnor Nelson

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 14, 2022 05:55 PM (dfCsg)

559 Jesus would use a Galil. That was easy.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 14, 2022 05:55 PM (QSjkU)

560 .>>> they'll turn around and do it once they get elected. Leadership fights aren't the hill to die on and all that.
Posted by: lowandslow at June 14, 2022 05:36 PM (qH
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Not necessarily so.
The one's coming in this time will be Trumpers and will have his support, he will have their back. Something the coerced TeaParty candidates did. not. have.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 14, 2022 05:56 PM (utM8c)

561 Speak of the devil:

Nevada lithium mine pits Biden green agenda against radical environmentalists.

We'll this just got interesting. Where's that superhero decision cartoon.

Posted by: WisRich at June 14, 2022 05:56 PM (G0vdT)

562 What guns? Damn boating accident.

That's cute. As if every gun you've ever bought isn't on a database that they can pull up on a whim.

Posted by: The Emperor Has No Clothes at June 14, 2022 05:52 PM (ODh6H)

It's cute that you think that.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at June 14, 2022 05:56 PM (nByzo)

563 eard is getting her comeuppance. Did you guys see my post on the other thread? dumped from Aquaman ii.
Posted by: r

not that it matters to her she is getting the $

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 14, 2022 05:56 PM (lWc6I)

564 All I have to say is God is on my side and I have my Garand for backup.

Come get some.

Posted by: irongrampa at June 14, 2022 05:57 PM (KATBx)

565 561 But I will no longer support Republicans
Posted by: Chicago Vota
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You never did.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 14, 2022 05:57 PM (utM8c)

566 The guy that moves pianos for a living isn't joking. Reid was an aggressively pro "gun rights"* senator. High profile, stole national $ as I recall to help build a range near Las Vegas. Er, was shrewd and got $$ via appropriations, I meant to say.

* "gun rights" is such a stupid misleading term, it's painful to use it, but "pro 2A" is also stupid in its own way - what parts of the law or constitution don't deserve compliance in a real system worthy of respect? So the "pro" part just reminds one of how idiotic the situation is.

Posted by: rhomboid at June 14, 2022 05:57 PM (OTzUX)

567 Jesus would use a Galil. That was easy.

why?

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 14, 2022 05:57 PM (lWc6I)

568 Babylon Bee headline, "Study Shows Kids Who Are Homeschooled Could Miss Out On Opportunity To Be A Gay Communist"

Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 05:57 PM (kDGvA)

569 This lovely IDF girl thinks McConnell and his cadre of simps are weak quislings.

https://tinyurl.com/53fnvke3

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 14, 2022 05:57 PM (8rxS0)

570 Red flag at night, sailor’s delight; red flag in the morning, sailors burn your sheets and take warning.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 14, 2022 05:58 PM (BP3/z)

571 Come get some.
Posted by: irongrampa
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If God is for you who can be against you?

Posted by: Braenyard at June 14, 2022 05:58 PM (utM8c)

572 28th amendment: the 2nd amendment is repealed
29th amendment: the 28th amendment is repealed
30th amendment: the 29th amendment is repealed
31st amendment....

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 14, 2022 05:58 PM (12jgO)

573 "I wonder if a certain cat"
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Don't look at me!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

*touches paw to nose*

not it. oh, and Bif? you need to scoop the box, i left a growler in there for ya.
- MegaRoy

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (UgAdJ) - at June 14, 2022 05:58 PM (UgAdJ)

574 It occurred to me that the way the 'Rats are dealing with drugs is the same way they're dealing with guns. Restrict their legitimate legitimate use and empower criminal use. Free crack pipe, anyone?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, That's AnonosaurX WrX, hater! at June 14, 2022 05:58 PM (FVME7)

575 Amber Heard's brilliant riposte!

https://bit.ly/3QqNsjQ
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

She should go back to the pole. She undoubtedly was better at that than she is at acting. Or talking. Or thinking.

Posted by: LASue, occasional thought leader at June 14, 2022 05:59 PM (Ed8Zd)

576 571 Jesus would use a Galil. That was easy.

why?
Posted by: confederatefifth
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Home boy

Posted by: Braenyard at June 14, 2022 05:59 PM (utM8c)

577 Rhomboid Johnson is right!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at June 14, 2022 06:00 PM (aaGzp)

578 Mitch McConnell is 81 years old Ace I don't think he will be looking for another job after this one ends

Posted by: Steve at June 14, 2022 06:00 PM (U+ee8)

579 Where have you gone Searchlight Strangler? A nation turns its lonely eyes to you....

Posted by: The guy that moves pianos for a living at June 14, 2022 06:00 PM (xEXQ9)

580 Jesus was strictly an Uzi man.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, That's AnonosaurX WrX, hater! at June 14, 2022 06:00 PM (FVME7)

581 >>583 Mitch McConnell is 81 years old Ace I don't think he will be looking for another job after this one ends

I hope he has a stroke.

Posted by: Maj. Healey at June 14, 2022 06:00 PM (8rxS0)

582 Jesus would use a Galil. That was easy.

why?
Posted by: confederatefifth

Locally-sourced

Posted by: SFGoth at June 14, 2022 06:01 PM (KAi1n)

583 why?
Posted by: confederatefifth
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Home boy

Posted by: Br

the israelis do not even use galils

Posted by: confederatefifth at June 14, 2022 06:01 PM (lWc6I)

584 > why?

IWI

Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 06:02 PM (kDGvA)

585 NOOD Mumbles.

Posted by: ShainS -- Welcome to the boneyard, we got fun & games & Starveflation aims at June 14, 2022 06:02 PM (CLqJa)

586 I'm keeping my powder dry until there's legislative text. This "agreements in principles" sound fine, but the devil is in the details.

Of course, progs like AOC *hate* the juvenile record proposal, because it's racist or something.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at June 14, 2022 06:03 PM (3inTL)

587 Maybe his dumb brain concluded, "This mini-14 is so weak, it's not even throwing rounds out to 100 yards!"

maybe he was backed up against a wall and instead of going "well maybe you have a point"he instantly had to argue back and try to "win" with idiot lies.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 14, 2022 06:03 PM (KZzsI)

588 > Jesus was strictly an Uzi man.

Have you fired one? They feel like shit in your hand.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 06:04 PM (kDGvA)

589
A lot of Israeli cops use Galils. I think they get a good deal on them now that the IDF mothballed them.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 14, 2022 06:04 PM (ZRrE6)

590 > maybe he was backed up against a wall and instead of going "well maybe you have a point" he instantly had to argue back and try to "win" with idiot lies.

Most likely.

Posted by: bonhomme at June 14, 2022 06:05 PM (kDGvA)

591 587 Jesus would use a Galil. That was easy.

why?
Posted by: confederatefifth

Locally-sourced
Posted by: SFGoth at June 14, 2022 06:01 PM (KAi1n)

Jesus don't need nothin' more than a moneycounter's table to defeat all His enemies.

Posted by: tuesday already? at June 14, 2022 06:05 PM (AMIL/)

592 I used to live across the street from a drug dealer who provided us with many a nights free entertainment. We would laugh our butts off. Every so often he would get a call (from someone on the force he must have paid off) that he was about to be raided.

He would hop over the fence, dig a hole in his neighbors (a senior citizen) back yard, bury the drugs, carefully replace the sod and dig it back up after the raid.

I never thought I'd be doing this with my guns.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at June 14, 2022 06:06 PM (cCxiu)

593 550 If you still plan to vote for any GOP candidates this fall, you're a sucker. Any of them. The party needs to be left to wither on the vine.

Walk away. The only way we get rid of them is for the party to lose bigly. Yeah, it will suck. But the only way out is through.
Posted by: Nope at June 14, 2022 05:52 PM (LgQ2l)

Oh come on. Look at what two years of Democrats in power has done to us. Six more years of this and America would no longer exist. The name itself would be changed. Most conservatives would be in re-education camps, treated like Uighurs. And you (if you're not a Dem plant, which you almost certainly are) will say, "Now we unleash our brilliant comeback!"

There's a middle position between blind acceptance of every Republican and complete rejection. It's to support the good ones and not the bad ones. Simple. If we follow this strategy, the party will eventually be ours. We've made progress toward that already. It's better than it was 20, even 10 years ago.

Posted by: Rusty Trawler at June 14, 2022 06:09 PM (1gif2)

594 Red flags laws will probably be abused (or rather many a Dem will be eager to try to abuse them), but it won't scale very well into a mass confiscation since its cumbersome to do 150 million individual visits to a county judge or whatever.

I mean, go ahead and get angry about it and run about saying "We've been betrayed!" but a more constructive course of action would be to start figuring out how to elect the judge (or the person who'll appoint the judge) in your locale who will mostly just spit on the gun grabbers when they show up to red flag someone.

Posted by: Match Checksout at June 14, 2022 06:11 PM (dYe5S)

595 384

I'm okay with making legal adulthood start at 25, including voting rights. But it's an all-or-nothing proposition: once you reach legal adulthood, you get access to all of your rights.
----
I agree with the last bit "once you reach ...." but would you need parental consent to get married?
How about age of consent?

Posted by: Ciampino at June 14, 2022 06:33 PM (qfLjt)

596 How can you tell you'll be needing your guns to counter a coup by the elites???
Republican RINOs vote with the commies to disarm,you...

Posted by: Carlos Rodriguez at June 14, 2022 06:36 PM (oEgun)

597 Cocaine Mitch is more good than bad, by far. We don't want to get rid of him. Who else has his cunning who would replace him?

Posted by: Lucas at June 14, 2022 07:03 PM (5DTn7)

598 SCOTUS has already ruled that red flag laws are unconstitutional
https://tinyurl.com/bpabjcv9

Posted by: cjhmhch at June 14, 2022 07:23 PM (PoYG7)

599 I don't know if voting for Democrat-lite is better than just not noting...

Posted by: setnaffa at June 14, 2022 07:36 PM (gtYIl)

600 Of course all AP's site and sister sites turned commenting off. People were on to his game.

Posted by: William at June 14, 2022 07:50 PM (rkAa7)

601 The uniparty is becoming ever more desperate to deprive we the people of any ability to resist their growing tyranny.

They stole 2020 because Trump was undoing their frog boiling plan to shred our Constitutional rights...which scared them so they have accelerated their efforts.

Their arrogance should be their eventual undoing...McConnell...Ryan...Cheney....Romney, et al. Provided that enough real Americans throw off the mental complacency that the pseudointellectual elitists who deem themselves better than the rest of us plebians, these selfish dishonest scum will receive the justice they so greatly deserve.

Posted by: Pete at June 14, 2022 08:12 PM (fjXxv)

602 i'm out for 2022 - i'll encourage all i know to sit out as well - only hope is to purge all McConnell repubs

Posted by: bob at June 14, 2022 08:39 PM (vI8s7)

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