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Protect The Leviathan At All Costs! The Uvalde Cops Are Cowardly Thugs Who Do The Bidding Of The State, Rather Than Protecting The Public

The Uvalde cops, both the town cops and the school district cops are sleazy cowards who deserve to be run out of town on a rail. They are more interested in their pensions and staying safe than they are in doing the jobs they are paid to do! And if you criticize them? Point out that they are in fact shitty at their jobs? That they let children die rather than risk their own safety? Then you are the enemy!
Uvalde mother who ran into school to save children threatened by police

Uvalde mom Angeli Rose Gomez has been threatened with a probation violation by Uvalde police if she continues talking to media about the school shooting that claimed the lives of 21 people.

The Texas Police Association code of ethics has something to say about that...

I WILL never act officiously or permit personal feelings, prejudices, political beliefs, aspirations, animosities or friendships to influence my decisions. With no compromise for crime and with relentless prosecution of criminals, I will enforce the law courteously and appropriately without fear or favor, malice or ill will, never employing unnecessary force or violence and never accepting gratuities.

I RECOGNIZE the badge of my office as a symbol of public faith and I accept it as a public trust to be held so long as I am true to the ethics of the police service. I will never engage in acts of corruption or bribery, nor will I condone such acts by other police officers. I will cooperate with all legally authorized agencies and their representatives in the pursuit of justice. [Emphasis mine]
Right...except for when it threatens your pension. Then you will clam up!

You know...if Uvalde had simply disbanded their school district police department and had given Angeli Rose Gomez some training with firearms, an AR-15 and a sidearm, I'll bet this whole thing would have turned out a lot better.

America has pissed away untold billions of dollars on militarizing our police, training them in the latest tactics, and we ended up with a bunch of fat f$%ks sitting on their hands or pepper spraying parents who wanted to go save their kids from a homicidal maniac.

Here's my solution. Take the top 25% of the entire IDPA (and equivalent) membership, send them to a six-week summer school to give them the basics on how to teach, and swap them for every damned teacher, "Resource Officer" and school district police department in the nation.

Both education and safety would be improved, and my guess is that there would be far less grooming too!

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM




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1 My pleasure to fetch em

Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2022 12:01 PM (2JoB8)

2 Did you think that the powers that be in charge were going to stop all decent at Covid Vax denying?

Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2022 12:04 PM (2JoB8)

3 Yeah Buddy

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at June 05, 2022 12:05 PM (R5lpX)

4 America has pissed away untold billions of dollars on militarizing our police
=========================
Cops who "enforce the law" instead of "keep the peace" are serious threats to the well being of citizens.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at June 05, 2022 12:05 PM (KrdbI)

5 Was it ever determined where the school cops were at the start of the shooting? Uvalde can't have very many schools, how many donut shops are in town?

Posted by: BignJames at June 05, 2022 12:05 PM (AwYPR)

6 I still can't wrap my head around the fact that NOT ONE of them had the balls to say, f*ck this, I'm going in.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 05, 2022 12:06 PM (9zXwu)

7
These police are like the Mexican police. How long until they start setting up roadblocks to collect "fees?"

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 05, 2022 12:08 PM (qOuMB)

8 still can't wrap my head around the fact that NOT ONE of them had the balls to say, f*ck this, I'm going in.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 05, 2022 12:06 PM (9zXwu) *

They took their cue from the Parkland Police Department Book on How Not To Get Shit Shirking Your Sworn Responsibility.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at June 05, 2022 12:09 PM (R5lpX)

9 Was there a reason for not eanting to let that mother go in other than fear of being humiliated?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at June 05, 2022 12:09 PM (eGTCV)

10 "...who deserve to be run out of town on a rail. "

After they have been tarred and feathered.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 05, 2022 12:09 PM (lKAqb)

11 Shot

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at June 05, 2022 12:09 PM (R5lpX)

12 I cannot get past the belief that this was another op run by the "deepstate". Too many perfect storm occurences for this to happen as it did. The perp, Ramos, was a perfect selection for a manchurian candidate. Governments fingers have been too deep in too many pies to get this thought out of my head.

Posted by: Agitator at June 05, 2022 12:10 PM (8Avx7)

13 I still think as these tragic events happen the story gets out first and what really happened gets lost or never comes to light.
Worse mass shooting ( Las Vegas) has never came out. That the only thing publicly that became a scream was "bump stock" and that is it that I remember.

Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2022 12:11 PM (2JoB8)

14 Is it possible they were instructed to not go in, until a case was made for national antigun hysteria?
No. That's crazy talk.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at June 05, 2022 12:11 PM (eGTCV)

15 They need a new loyalty oath for teachers.

Not "I am not and have never been a communist", because many ARE communists. But an oath that they will not groom or inject Woke ideology into kids ... and probably some other basic loyalties that we should expect of every teacher.

Posted by: illiniwek at June 05, 2022 12:11 PM (Cus5s)

16 One infuriating Uvalde disconnect is that politicians seeking to use the school shootings to argue about gun control instead of cowardly police malfeasance.

We, America's citizens, know what the Uvlade issue really is.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at June 05, 2022 12:11 PM (KrdbI)

17 The proper response by Uvalde now - and I don't know if this will happen, but it should happen - is that the Uvalde City Police Dep't should be disbanded, completely, and the Uvalde County Sherriff's Dep't should be expanded to take over the duties. Those members of the city police who were not involved in this can be transferred to the Sherriff's Dep't with seniority intact. But a large, public price must be paid.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2022 12:12 PM (r46W7)

18 one's crop is always the resultant of one's cultivation

be plants, business, children or cops

America deserves what it has grown

Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2022 12:13 PM (us2H3)

19 Are we no longer doing 'You had one job!!!'?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 05, 2022 12:13 PM (1n+EO)

20 Fuck them and their pensions. Wouldn't give it up to keep babies from being blown apart? I don't like to get mad before I eat but I don't know how they can live with themselves.

Posted by: dartist at June 05, 2022 12:14 PM (+ya+t)

21 America deserves what it has grown
Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2022 12:13 PM (us2H3) *

Comment of the day...so far.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at June 05, 2022 12:14 PM (R5lpX)

22 Angeli Rose Gomez is a hero

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 05, 2022 12:14 PM (kf6Ak)

23 Hola, CBD, and compliments on the righteous rant. I have nothing to add.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 05, 2022 12:15 PM (kb51C)

24 You see this Uvalde tin star? It'll get me a cup of coffee and an order of ham and eggs every day of the week!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 05, 2022 12:16 PM (BP3/z)

25 12 I cannot get past the belief that this was another op run by the "deepstate". Too many perfect storm occurences for this to happen as it did. The perp, Ramos, was a perfect selection for a manchurian candidate. Governments fingers have been too deep in too many pies to get this thought out of my head.
Posted by: Agitator at June 05, 2022 12:10 PM (8Avx7)

the reason I don't believe that is because there have been a long list of incidents showing that Ramos was a ticking timebomb - and most ticking timebombs go off sooner or later. The saddest part of this story is how many people knew, or should have known, that Ramos was psychotic, and yet they did nothing about it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2022 12:17 PM (r46W7)

26
12 I cannot get past the belief that this was another op run by the "deepstate". Too many perfect storm occurences for this to happen as it did. The perp, Ramos, was a perfect selection for a manchurian candidate. Governments fingers have been too deep in too many pies to get this thought out of my head.
Posted by: Agitator at June 05, 2022 12:10 PM (8Avx7)

------

Even if this was not explicitly arranged by government, it was at least implicitly arranged. The government-mandated destruction of school discipline in the name of equity, and the diversion from recording felony records to avoid the "school to prison pipeline," means that thousands of psychopathic little shits are being cultivated and permitted to legally purchase firearms.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 05, 2022 12:17 PM (qOuMB)

27 This whole thing is an Op. They let the crazies do heinous crimes and then want to confiscate the guns. They keep doing it hoping that one day the citizenry will rise up and demand the repeal of the Second Amendment.

Why do liberal D.A.s let the perps off without punishment?

To encourage them to do more damage.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 05, 2022 12:18 PM (lKAqb)

28 Any updates on the Philadelphia shooting last night, with three dead, at least 11 wounded, and multiple shooters?

Seems to be getting the same media coverage as the escaped prisoner in Texas, who murdered 5 members of one family. Including four children.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 05, 2022 12:19 PM (1n+EO)

29 Even if this was not explicitly arranged by government, it was at least implicitly arranged. The government-mandated destruction of school discipline in the name of equity, and the diversion from recording felony records to avoid the "school to prison pipeline," means that thousands of psychopathic little shits are being cultivated and permitted to legally purchase firearms.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 05, 2022 12:17 PM (qOuMB)

Yup, this.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 05, 2022 12:19 PM (VwHCD)

30 There was a Demoncrat who said, in effect, screw your constitution.
And not one cop said screw your rules, regulations and procedures.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at June 05, 2022 12:19 PM (eGTCV)

31 the reason I don't believe that is because there have been a long list of incidents showing that Ramos was a ticking timebomb - and most ticking timebombs go off sooner or later. The saddest part of this story is how many people knew, or should have known, that Ramos was psychotic, and yet they did nothing about it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2022 12:17 PM (r46W7)

Hence my feeling that he was cultivated. How many more? Probably thousands.

Posted by: Agitator at June 05, 2022 12:20 PM (8Avx7)

32 This whole thing is an Op. They let the crazies do heinous crimes and then want to confiscate the guns. They keep doing it hoping that one day the citizenry will rise up and demand the repeal of the Second Amendment.

Why do liberal D.A.s let the perps off without punishment?

To encourage them to do more damage.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 05, 2022 12:18 PM (lKAqb)

The whole death by 1000 cuts thing.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 05, 2022 12:21 PM (VwHCD)

33 I'm going to predict there will be at least one suicide from among those cops.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at June 05, 2022 12:21 PM (eGTCV)

34 Somebody publicly needs to ask why a spy plane landed in Uvalde the day of the shooting and took off 5 minutes before the shooting. Also ask why the feds were already on the ground there.

Posted by: cjhmhch at June 05, 2022 12:21 PM (PoYG7)

35 I have nothing to add.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at June 05, 2022 12:15 PM (kb51C)

Thanks, but don't let that stop you!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 05, 2022 12:23 PM (XIJ/X)

36 "I'm going to predict there will be at least one suicide from among those cops."

And be recorded as a 'covid related death'.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 05, 2022 12:23 PM (1n+EO)

37 three dead and eleven wounded in Saturday night shoot out on South Street (Philly). News that will soon be memory-hole for racial reasons.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at June 05, 2022 12:23 PM (KrdbI)

38
It bears repeating that Ramos was not bullied. HE was an aggressive bully who did whatever the hell he wanted without consequence, attacking the weak and powerless, and he finally finished with this.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 05, 2022 12:24 PM (qOuMB)

39 "Somebody publicly needs to ask why a spy plane...."

* *

This would be where a link is traditionally provided.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 05, 2022 12:24 PM (1n+EO)

40 Arredondo, the jefe in charge did not have a radio on him.

I endorse CBD's plan.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 05, 2022 12:25 PM (zcQDR)

41 This was a breaking point for me. I now carry concealed almost everywhere. I am asking nicely for my wife to take the class.

Posted by: Picric at June 05, 2022 12:25 PM (HzuMl)

42 Any updates on the Philadelphia shooting last night, with three dead, at least 11 wounded, and multiple shooters?

***

Summer Saturday night

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 05, 2022 12:26 PM (kf6Ak)

43 . The government-mandated destruction of school discipline in the name of equity, and the diversion from recording felony records to avoid the "school to prison pipeline," means that thousands of psychopathic little shits are being cultivated and permitted to legally purchase firearms.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at June 05, 2022 12:17 PM (qOuMB) **

Exactly so. Hell, I remember as a kid, the Principal having the authority to use corporal punishment on kids who misbehaved. Case in point, I got suspended when I was in second grade. The Principal called my mother at work to come and pick me up. She marched me back into the Principal's office and told him that suspension was what I wanted to avoid school, that instead, he should spank me and send a note hometo my parents so they also could "explain" the error of my ways.

And I also remember in high school, if a male student got too smart with a male teacher, the teacher would jack him up against the wall and straighten them out. But then, most of the male teachers were vets of WWII and the Korean War. They didn't put up with any shit from their students and had the backing of the parents, for the most part.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at June 05, 2022 12:27 PM (R5lpX)

44 I'm going to predict there will be at least one suicide from among those cops.

Posted by: N.L. Urker

Perhaps, but seppuku implies some sense of honor...

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at June 05, 2022 12:27 PM (BI6Ze)

45 The usual suspects have been literally treating the weapon as a sentient being. To be fair it might be more sentient than Biden.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at June 05, 2022 12:28 PM (eGTCV)

46 34 Somebody publicly needs to ask why a spy plane landed in Uvalde the day of the shooting and took off 5 minutes before the shooting. Also ask why the feds were already on the ground there.
Posted by: cjhmhch at June 05, 2022 12:21 PM (PoYG7)

Uvalde is one of the main choke points for traffic to and from the Mexican border in that area. It's been packed with Feds for a long time. A similar town a couple hundred miles away is Van Horn, Texas, which is the only place where I've actually seen one of the infamous black helicopters coming in at dawn. (I figure it was DEA)

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2022 12:28 PM (r46W7)

47 "and had the backing of the parents, for the most part.""


A key piece, which is now missing in most cases.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 05, 2022 12:28 PM (1n+EO)

48 CBD has been critical of LE for a long time.

And he's been right. I've only recently (1-2 years) come around to his positions.

And I never thought that would happen.

Posted by: I Mean at June 05, 2022 12:29 PM (TV+C6)

49 "To be fair it might be more sentient than Biden."

You misspelled 'certainly is'.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 05, 2022 12:29 PM (1n+EO)

50 If Ramos was bullied, why didn't he go after the High School? Why vent his anger/hate on elementary school children?

He was mentally ill and probably (IMHO) never given any religious education. Spiritually starved.

Lots of blame to go around. Mainly the mother.

But not me. I refuse to accept false guilt.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 05, 2022 12:30 PM (lKAqb)

51
When government employees are subject to the expectations, responsibility and consequences that those in the private sector are subject to, I'll respect them more.

When they start treating the public like customers whose confidence they need to maintain instead of subjects they can treat any way they want, I'll respect them more.

When they start treating the public purse as something precious and delicate instead of an infinitely expanding sack of cash, I'll respect them more.

No doubt many public employees do. Unfortunately, I rarely run across them.

In fairness, I did come across one recently. I was trying to resurrect my sole-owner LLC with which I had done nothing since I established it. I spoke to a lady in the TX Comptroller's office who walked me through what papers I needed to fill out for what years and how much I had to pay ($100). She also told me to mail everything to her and she'd see they were taken care of.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 05, 2022 12:30 PM (/U27+)

52 Haven't kept up, did Sean "voiceover" Hannity praise them as ham-n-eggers? On second thought, never mind, who cares.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at June 05, 2022 12:32 PM (BI6Ze)

53 I'm going to predict there will be at least one suicide from among those cops.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at June 05, 2022 12:21 PM (eGTCV)

A few years back in my little community, we had an officer shot and killed during a traffic stop. A back up officer on site, hod under his car when his companion was killed and the perp drove away. A short while later he killed himself. Couldn't live with himself after not trying to help his partner. I suspect you are correct but it will probably not be any of the ones that should.

Posted by: Agitator at June 05, 2022 12:33 PM (8Avx7)

54 "Where do all the hippies meet? South Street, South Street..."
Echoes from Better America, which is relentlessly rebranded as Awful America by the corporate fascist media complex.

Posted by: azjaeger at June 05, 2022 12:33 PM (3/XaG)

55 Speaking of killing kids by accident...

https://youtu.be/nYDoSwd9r2s?t=85

A great scene from "In Bruges."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 05, 2022 12:33 PM (XIJ/X)

56 And I also remember in high school, if a male student got too smart with a male teacher, the teacher would jack him up against the wall and straighten them out. But then, most of the male teachers were vets of WWII and the Korean War. They didn't put up with any shit from their students and had the backing of the parents, for the most part.
------
Here too. Neighbors would bring you home by the ear as well.

Posted by: dartist at June 05, 2022 12:33 PM (+ya+t)

57 The shooting in Philly omg

Three dead now 11 wounded

Multiple shooters

It’s the end of Center City

Should be the end of Outlaw

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 05, 2022 12:34 PM (w0NJk)

58
Echoes from Better America, which is relentlessly rebranded as Awful America by the corporate fascist media complex.
Posted by: azjaeger at June 05, 2022 12:33 PM (3/XaG)

The 50s, once derided by the intelligensia as an empty, conformist time, is now held up by today's intelligensia as some kind of paragon in our history.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 05, 2022 12:35 PM (/U27+)

59 A great scene from "In Bruges."
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 05, 2022 12:33 PM (XIJ/X)

I love that movie.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 05, 2022 12:35 PM (9zXwu)

60 Btw tell me again how horrible Denver is?!?! It’s fucking paradise u guys do NOT understand the situation here

Posted by: BlackOrchid at June 05, 2022 12:35 PM (w0NJk)

61 I still can't wrap my head around the fact that NOT ONE of them had the balls to say, f*ck this, I'm going in.
Posted by: Jordan61 at June 05, 2022 12:06 PM (9zXwu)

Agreed.
I question not only their professional actions, but do they have any concept of thinking about anyone other than themselves?
How any one of them can contribute to stay on the force shows they don't.
Sh*tstains, all of them.


Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 05, 2022 12:36 PM (KHXdf)

62 When government employees are subject to the expectations, responsibility and consequences that those in the private sector are subject to, I'll respect them more.

When they start treating the public like customers whose confidence they need to maintain instead of subjects they can treat any way they want, I'll respect them more.

When they start treating the public purse as something precious and delicate instead of an infinitely expanding sack of cash, I'll respect them more.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 05, 2022 12:30 PM (/U27+)

This!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 05, 2022 12:36 PM (XIJ/X)

63
Was there a reason for not eanting to let that mother go in other than fear of being humiliated?
Posted by: N.L. Urker

Firefighters won't let you go into your burning house.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 05, 2022 12:36 PM (63Dwl)

64
Here too. Neighbors would bring you home by the ear as well.
Posted by: dartist at June 05, 2022 12:33 PM (+ya+t)

Not only was it all right for your mother to get on your case when you acted up, it was all right for other mothers to get on your case when you acted up.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 05, 2022 12:36 PM (/U27+)

65 On a better note, the PNW MoMe was a smashing success!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 05, 2022 12:37 PM (KHXdf)

66 Here too. Neighbors would bring you home by the ear as well.
Posted by: dartist at June 05, 2022 12:33 PM (+ya+t)**

Oh yeah. We lived on a cul de sac and knew all of our neighbors socially. I guess it was an unwritten rule that if one of the neighborhood kids caused trouble, the other parents had permission to punish them...within reason. And then, you also got it again when you got home.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at June 05, 2022 12:37 PM (R5lpX)

67
On a better note, the PNW MoMe was a smashing success!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at June 05, 2022 12:37 PM (KHXdf)

Does that mean there was actual smashing?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 05, 2022 12:37 PM (/U27+)

68 to get all jeff goldblum like- we created a weak society, then created cops to keep the strong from preying on the weak, and now we have cops preying on the weak.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at June 05, 2022 12:38 PM (VwHCD)

69 A thought crossed my mind...

What if, similar to how criminals target gun-free zones to commit their crimes, school shooters are targeting schools in districts with weak, incompetent police forces?

I don't believe it has been a coincidence that both Parkland and now Uvalde have had the same weak, incompetent responses for their local police forces. And I don't believe every local police force in the country is as incompetent as those two.

Or, is it a case of the conspiracy theory I read last week that the school district uses an AI company specifically focused on preventing school shootings and they needed a school shooting to happen in order to sell their services.

https://bit.ly/3t3RGDM

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 05, 2022 12:38 PM (Do5/p)

70 "Not only was it all right for your mother to get on your case when you acted up, it was all right for other mothers to get on your case when you acted up. "

And in the case of this mass murder, the mother is on record with 'he had his reasons'?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 05, 2022 12:38 PM (1n+EO)

71 Ah, The Po-Po. AKA The Police.

Used to be the cops who worked for you knew you, lived in the area, had a beat and actually talked to and met the folks they were to protect and serve.

Nowadays you get two types...the young vet type who wants to flash bang every crack house and ventilate all they see or the older, sorta corrupt fat ass who wants the bennies until they retire and get more bennies at another sinecure posting. Lost in the shuffle are the good cops, who realize too late they made a bad career choice but have to stay as they have too much time in to get out.

Barney Fife is dead. Long Live Barney Fife!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 05, 2022 12:39 PM (R/m4+)

72 Does that mean there was actual smashing?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 05, 2022 12:37 PM (/U27+)

Well, a bottle of booze got smashed. But that was an accident.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 05, 2022 12:39 PM (9zXwu)

73 Said before the Leftists system starting at their Marxists Seminaries they are setting up the potential situation of mental breakdown and that's all they need to do.
By my reading that's their goal, they also help by letting criminals off with no punishment or letting them out long before they should be.

Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2022 12:40 PM (2JoB8)

74 When they start treating the public purse as something precious and delicate instead of an infinitely expanding sack of cash, I'll respect them more.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

I like to caress it as it swells and expands, and stroke it until it spurts a big stringy load of sweet, sticky taxpayer lucre all over my maskless face.

Posted by: Tony Fauci at June 05, 2022 12:40 PM (BI6Ze)

75 I have a story about misbehaving kids.

A black kid was acting up in class. The teacher had already warned him. She ends up slapping him. He goes home to tell his mother that Mrs. Donovan hit him.

She storms into the school demanding to see Mrs. Donovan. Mrs. Donovan was married to a friend of mine. She was as dark as the Ace of Spades. Mrs. Donovan proceeded to explain to the child's mother what he had done.

The kid was "instructed" to never give Mrs. Donovan any grief again.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 05, 2022 12:41 PM (lKAqb)

76 So where's the Defund the Police mob?

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 05, 2022 12:41 PM (ETX4h)

77 Here's my solution. Take the top 25% of the entire IDPA (and equivalent) membership, send them to a six-week summer school to give them the basics on how to teach, and swap them for every damned teacher, "Resource Officer" and school district police department in the nation.

Our research indicates a distinct lack of support for brainwashing students on important issues like queerness, socialism, and encouraging racial discrimination among IDPA members, so that's going to be a problem.

Posted by: Teachers' Union Leadership at June 05, 2022 12:42 PM (g2geH)

78 "Barney Fife is dead. Long Live Barney Fife!"

Barney Fife may have been somewhat of a chicken.

But I can't think of a single episode where he was scared that he didn't despite his fears, rise to the occasion.

Now Andy might have been in the background, unseen by Barney, making sure he was safe.

But at the time, Barney did not know that.
And still he faced his fears.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 05, 2022 12:42 PM (1n+EO)

79 Exact same where I grew up, on a mill hill in N. Charlotte. Grand parents lived on one side and anunt and uncle on the other side. Everyone knew everyone and it was damn near impossible to get away with anything.

Posted by: Agitator at June 05, 2022 12:43 PM (8Avx7)

80 Have any basketball coaches become weepy about the inaction of the cops?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at June 05, 2022 12:43 PM (eGTCV)

81 Watched the video of the mother. Pretty good job of telling what happened. Also noticed she seemed pure Texican. Said y'all quite a few times, no accent. She'll be derided as a white hispanic soon, I suppose.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at June 05, 2022 12:45 PM (7bRMQ)

82 If you have to threaten a woman with a probation violation to keep her mouth shut about what happened there, you need to take a hard look in the mirror and ask yourself why the actual fvck you felt compelled to threaten her with jail time. Maybe, just maybe it means you are a coward and you had to threaten her because she had more balls than you do.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 05, 2022 12:45 PM (bVYXr)

83 Forget a rail... I like Trebuchet across the Rio Grande better

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at June 05, 2022 12:45 PM (flINI)

84 Forget a rail... I like Trebuchet across the Rio Grande better

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report

into >> across

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at June 05, 2022 12:47 PM (BI6Ze)

85 If I lose my teaching job to some IDPA dude, how will I pay back my $320,000 in student loans (no, not a fucking joke).
https://tinyurl.com/2r46yat6

Posted by: Cheryl (last name withheld on request, because she's fucking retarded) at June 05, 2022 12:47 PM (g2geH)

86 Forget a rail... I like Trebuchet across the Rio Grande better

Combine the two concepts, railgun for launching across the Rio Grande.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at June 05, 2022 12:47 PM (Bd6X8)

87 Have any basketball coaches become weepy about the inaction of the cops?
Posted by: N.L. Urker, my trench is full of chickens at June 05, 2022 12:43 PM (eGTCV) **

Nah, but the Polack coach of the Duke University basketball team has become outspoken about the need for gun control...putz needs to just enjoy his upcoming retirement and keep his yap shut.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at June 05, 2022 12:47 PM (R5lpX)

88 With a Made in China safety net on the other side of the Rio Grande.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 05, 2022 12:47 PM (ETX4h)

89 Forget a rail... I like Trebuchet across the Rio Grande better

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at June 05, 2022 12:45 PM


First fill it up with alligators with friggin laser beams attached to their heads.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 05, 2022 12:48 PM (bVYXr)

90 The investigation of Uvalde is going to be a total clusterfuck. Every agency in Texas, the TX legislature and the Feds are all running their own investigation.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 05, 2022 12:48 PM (zcQDR)

91 Epilogue: Mr. and Mrs. Donovan lived a happy and fruitful life together. Eventually, she came down with Pancreatic Cancer. Yikes. Two years of suffering.

She is in Heaven now. Those last two years were Purgatory enough.

She loved to wear pretty stylish hats to church. I mean really, really great big city hats. She loved it when I complimented her about them.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at June 05, 2022 12:48 PM (lKAqb)

92 " I like Trebuchet across the Rio Grande better"

Mexico enforces their immigration laws.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 05, 2022 12:48 PM (1n+EO)

93 I don't believe it has been a coincidence that both Parkland and now Uvalde have had the same weak, incompetent responses for their local police forces. And I don't believe every local police force in the country is as incompetent as those two."

I don't believe every local police force is this bad - but many are. And now the odds of running into an incompetent force are much higher then of bumping into a decent one.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2022 12:48 PM (r46W7)

94 >>>So where's the Defund the Police mob?

>They're scrounging around looking for some cash so they can get the gear they need to breach a fire door. Might be a couple more hours.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 05, 2022 12:48 PM (BP3/z)

95 Said before the Leftists system starting at their Marxists Seminaries they are setting up the potential situation of mental breakdown and that's all they need to do. By my reading that's their goal, they also help by letting criminals off with no punishment or letting them out long before they should be.

Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2022 12:40 PM

Yep, you take a look at the high crime and murder in cities like Chicago, Philly, NY, DC, Baltimore, Los Angeles, etc and they have, I think, two major things in common: (1) strict "gun-control" laws (2) lack of prosecution of pretty much any crime at all, even gun crimes.

So you end up with the work of police officers actually enforcing the laws going for naught when the local DAs refuse to prosecute.

A lot of police forces are the problem, but the root of the problem goes back to George Soros buying the elections of soft on crime District Attorneys all across the country.

Lack of law enforcement - i.e. prosecution of crimes and putting criminals in prison - is the issue. Won't matter if police officers do their jobs or not if those they arrest are not prosecuted and punished.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 05, 2022 12:49 PM (Do5/p)

96 The investigation of Uvalde is going to be a total clusterfuck. Every agency in Texas, the TX legislature and the Feds are all running their own investigation.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 05, 2022 12:48 PM


All by design so the feds can call anything Texas says as "misinformation" and dismiss it.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at June 05, 2022 12:50 PM (bVYXr)

97 "" I like Trebuchet across the Rio Grande better"



PULL!!

*BLAM*

*Reload*

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 05, 2022 12:50 PM (1n+EO)

98 Mr.Scott, by gosh! I think you've got it.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 05, 2022 12:51 PM (zcQDR)

99 Like elected politicians, police forces are a reflection of the general population.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at June 05, 2022 12:53 PM (Qhnrt)

100 63
Was there a reason for not eanting to let that mother go in other than fear of being humiliated?
Posted by: N.L. Urker

Firefighters won't let you go into your burning house.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 05, 2022 12:36 PM

Several, theoretically.
1-it's and active crime scene, so you could contaminate evidence
2-you could be an accomplice
3-if it's a known dangerous situation, and they let you in, and you get injured, you could sue

Posted by: LE adjacent guy at June 05, 2022 12:53 PM (g2geH)

101 Like elected politicians, police forces are a reflection of the general population.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at June 05, 2022 12:53 PM (Qhnrt)

I disagree. The forces that act on hiring and retention of the police have distorted their ranks.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 05, 2022 12:54 PM (XIJ/X)

102
The investigation of Uvalde is going to be a total clusterfuck. Every agency in Texas, the TX legislature and the Feds are all running their own investigation.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 05, 2022 12:48 PM

What ever became of that Twin Peaks shootout in Waco? Nine dead, 160 bikers jailed. Four years later all the criminal indictments got dismissed.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 05, 2022 12:55 PM (/U27+)

103 97 "" I like Trebuchet across the Rio Grande better"
PULL!!
*BLAM*
*Reload*
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 05, 2022 12:50 PM (1n+EO)

It's a fun idea - but the sad reality is that there's nothing to aim at across the border. The Mexican border states are now mainly like Afghanistan or the ruined areas of Syria; the official government has almost no influence left in those regions, and the only "government" left is the Cartels. And they don't do much except kill anyone who annoys them or gets in their way.

it almost makes one want to build a Big Wall just to keep all of that mess over where it belongs.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2022 12:55 PM (r46W7)

104 Good news everyone! The Baby Milk Plant is back up and running after I fixed all of the damage done by Trumps bombing. You're welcome.

Posted by: Joey Stankfinge4 at June 05, 2022 12:56 PM (flINI)

105 I don't believe every local police force is this bad - but many are. And now the odds of running into an incompetent force are much higher then of bumping into a decent one.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2022 12:48 PM

Yep, and why is that? Because the good cops have all quit or retired. Because they recognized their jobs are completely useless. Because George Soros and BLM District Attorneys and BLM-supporting Mayors and Governors refuse to enforce laws and prosecute criminals. Remember "space to destroy".

This is the result of not standing up to BLM and instead allowing it to control the nation's culture. This is the result of pushing good cops to quit and retire because the culture of law enforcement is now to not enforce the laws or prosecute crime.

And the irony is that the Left is getting the exact response from the Right they wanted: anti-police sentiment. When the response should be the exact opposite. Improve the nation's police force (fire the lazy asses, hire back the ones who do their jobs) and improve enforcement of laws for all crimes (actually prosecute criminals arrested by good cops).

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 05, 2022 12:56 PM (Do5/p)

106 Not defending the police at all, obviously their response here was disgraceful, but I think our problems go a lot deeper than cops. We've created a sick society where deviant behavior isn't just tolerated its celebrated and if you push back you risk being cancelled.

This town is not far from the Mexican border and look at what our alleged government is doing there. When a few BP officers on horses tried to stop people from rushing the border they were publicly excoriated and compared to slavers and were threatened with job loss and prosecution. For enforcing the damn law.

This kid never should have been allowed in school, he was clearly deranged. His mother's first reaction when hearing about the shooting was "he must have had a reason". Are you fucking kidding me? As a society we have lost our collective minds and we are allowing laws to be broken with impunity. Ask BLM and antifa. We don't start acting like sane people again we can't expect the cops to be better.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2022 12:57 PM (ZLI7S)

107 76 So where's the Defund the Police mob?
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 05, 2022 12:41 PM (ETX4h)

Only when a R is President.. they're phony

Posted by: Clutch at June 05, 2022 12:57 PM (9UmRs)

108 What ever became of that Twin Peaks shootout in Waco? Nine dead, 160 bikers jailed. Four years later all the criminal indictments got dismissed.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 05, 2022 12:55 PM (/U27+) **

In a case like that, everyone kept their mouths shut. No witnesses, no case.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at June 05, 2022 12:57 PM (R5lpX)

109
it almost makes one want to build a Big Wall just to keep all of that mess over where it belongs.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2022 12:55 PM (r46W7)

That's racist, xenophobic and likely Islamophobic as well.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 05, 2022 12:57 PM (/U27+)

110 Dominion Tank Police has become a truly prophetic series.

1. World living under a bacterial cloud and always masked.
2. Crime is out of control.
3. The police are so militarized they use tanks.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 05, 2022 12:57 PM (ETX4h)

111
No witnesses, no case.
Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at June 05, 2022 12:57 PM (R5lpX)

Ah. No names, no pack-drill.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 05, 2022 12:58 PM (/U27+)

112 So in Heritage America, cowardice like this would be treated publicly.

Could we get a "white feather" campaign going for the Uvalde police?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 05, 2022 12:58 PM (ESjRY)

113
"" I like Trebuchet across the Rio Grande better"



PULL!!

*BLAM*

*Reload*
------
How much more simple can it get?

Posted by: dartist at June 05, 2022 12:58 PM (+ya+t)

114 These police are the people who, I have been assured, will never follow government orders to confiscate weapons, will boldly stand with their neighbors against the military if they followed orders to do so, and would never obey orders to fire on their fellow American civilians, particularly if they were unarmed.

I am not saying it is game over, just that it might be time to reconsider that particular assumption when it comes to certain scenarios, and perhaps even revise a few other assumptions that go along with it.

Posted by: Sam at June 05, 2022 12:59 PM (ohyxL)

115 What ever became of that Twin Peaks shootout in Waco? Nine dead, 160 bikers jailed. Four years later all the criminal indictments got dismissed.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 05, 2022 12:55 PM (/U27+)

The worst part is that it appears that all the charges were dismissed because the Biker's attorney's were about to successfully subpoena all the internal police records about their involvement. Dropping the charges meant all of that could remain secret.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2022 12:59 PM (r46W7)

116 The investigation of Uvalde is going to be a total clusterfuck. Every agency in Texas, the TX legislature and the Feds are all running their own investigation.

Gov Abbott said the Uvalde police lied to him about what happened their.

Has he demanded their police chief, their spokesperson and whoever was leading the cops that day be fired...backed up with cutting all state funding until they do?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 05, 2022 01:00 PM (ESjRY)

117 Or recycle the uvalde cops using an industrial wood chipper.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 05, 2022 01:01 PM (ETX4h)

118 110 Dominion Tank Police has become a truly prophetic series.

1. World living under a bacterial cloud and always masked.
2. Crime is out of control.
3. The police are so militarized they use tanks.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 05, 2022 12:57 PM

Is that after their electronic ballot machines stole multiple elections for the new world order?

Posted by: Clueless About Anime at June 05, 2022 01:01 PM (g2geH)

119 Forget where read, some Leftist Hell hole a Muslim woman goes nuts, gets arrested. Mug shot photo has her head cover removed. Lawsuit and she is $1000,000 richer, city gladly pays out for her pain and humiliation.

Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2022 01:02 PM (2JoB8)

120 18-1, Surely you asked that in jest.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 05, 2022 01:02 PM (zcQDR)

121 I've been skeptical of LE basically my entire adult life, growing up and witnessing ruby ridge/Waco and the destruction that wrought via okc will do that to a young lad. That feeling was only cemented after moving to Norman about a decade ago where the police are nothing more than revenue pirates and don't even attempt to hide that fact.

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 05, 2022 01:02 PM (MGB5H)

122 Most teachers are normal people. The one's we see in the media are the same percentage to the population as the BLM.

Arm the teachers. Promote volunteerism, interview/screen them, teach and train them.
There may be one more idiot school attempt but after he is turned into a sieve the predictors will seek a softer target.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2022 01:02 PM (4UJrj)

123 I wonder if I could become a school cop in my retirement. I bet I would have to cut my hair though.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 05, 2022 01:03 PM (yQpMk)

124
Institutions should be respected to the extent they strive to adhere to the standards that earned them that respect. Too many of them have been internally weakened and are mere shells of what they were. Yet they still demand the same respect.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at June 05, 2022 01:03 PM (/U27+)

125 "Too many of them have been internally weakened and are mere shells of what they were. Yet they still demand the same respect. "

IowaHawk had something to say about just that.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 05, 2022 01:05 PM (1n+EO)

126 Since the mayor is afraid she won't be reelected in episode one, probably not.

Posted by: Anna Puma at June 05, 2022 01:05 PM (ETX4h)

127 *waves to BruceWayne*

Posted by: Ben Had at June 05, 2022 01:05 PM (zcQDR)

128 Hiya Ben Had!

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 05, 2022 01:06 PM (MGB5H)

129 Add to Ace's condemnation the Texas Department of Public Safety, the investigators. They were well represented at the cop stand around.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2022 01:07 PM (4UJrj)

130 I am not saying it is game over, just that it might be time to reconsider that particular assumption when it comes to certain scenarios, and perhaps even revise a few other assumptions that go along with it.
Posted by: Sam at June 05, 2022 12:59 PM (ohyxL)


In either event, I think the best thing is to become a friend of the police, a police auxiliary if you can afford to do it, but at least a civilian ride-alonger and fund raiser. Then you are on the inside if things are bad, and a part of the strongest gang if they stay loyal to the populace.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 05, 2022 01:07 PM (yQpMk)

131 We don't start acting like sane people again we can't expect the cops to be better.

Posted by: JackStraw at June 05, 2022 12:57 PM

Well said. 100% agree.

People keep focusing on the results of the problem (child-grooming teachers, incompetent cops, etc) instead of the root of the problem (leftist takeover of every institution in the nation).

Politics is downstream from culture. I would argue that now everything -- politics, education, "healthcare", military, law enforcement, sports, etc -- is downstream of culture. The culture is rotten and has been rotten for decades. Everything we are seeing now -- support from every institution in the country for BLM, antifa, wokeness, grooming, gun confiscation, anti-enforcement of laws, gender dysphoria, etc -- is all a result of rotten culture, infected with radical American leftism.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 05, 2022 01:07 PM (Do5/p)

132 I blame the "War On Drugs" for much of the militarization of the police. Instead of decriminalizing drugs, you keep the price high by making it illegal. Then Alphonzo Luis Capone makes billions running drugs into the country. So then the PoPo has to arm up to combat the dreaded drug menace. Rinse and repeat for decades. Now the Chinamen are sending their best fentanyl and still we persist. Little Johnny Methcook and Sally Glasspipe couldn't be happier.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 05, 2022 01:08 PM (R/m4+)

133 Hey! Who’s ready for my gun Buy Back Better program?

Posted by: Joe Biden at June 05, 2022 01:08 PM (3HI6Z)

134 OT.
3yo Eli is back in PICU (he had bern moved to the regular ward because he was improving post brain surgery) as he is getting seizures. Family is asking for continued prayers.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 05, 2022 01:08 PM (kf6Ak)

135 "Add to Ace's condemnation the..."


You misspelled CBD

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 05, 2022 01:08 PM (1n+EO)

136 Since the mayor is afraid she won't be reelected in episode one, probably not.

Well my neighbor's kid was murdered and the cop down who was standing outside the whole time keeps harrassing her, and there are illegals, trannies, and drug dealers everywhere...but if I vote for the mayor's opponent bad things might happen to this town...they might reject science or let white supremacists shoot our kids, our corrupt the police!

Posted by: LIVs in Uvalde at June 05, 2022 01:08 PM (ESjRY)

137 What happened with the person either leaving the door unlocked or unlocking the door? Was that ever explained? Accomplice? Leaving it unlocked for the police? An the police officer assigned to the school was conviently off the property? What was his/her response? We'll never hear the real story.

Posted by: Megthered at June 05, 2022 01:09 PM (AdxHD)

138
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at June 05, 2022 01:07 PM (yQpMk)

We know that answer.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2022 01:09 PM (4UJrj)

139 vmom

Prayers sent.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 05, 2022 01:09 PM (1n+EO)

140 These police are the people who, I have been assured, will never follow government orders to confiscate weapons, will boldly stand with their neighbors against the military if they followed orders to do so, and would never obey orders to fire on their fellow American civilians, particularly if they were unarmed.

Posted by: Sam at June 05, 2022 12:59 PM (ohyxL)

Assured by whom? Sean Hannity?

That attitude hasn't been popular or defensible around here for a very long time!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 05, 2022 01:10 PM (XIJ/X)

141 " What happened with the person either leaving the door unlocked or unlocking the door? Was that ever explained? "

I had read this morning that video evidence showed the teacher fully removing the rock, and actually pulling the door to the fully closed position. Claim is that it failed to lock.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 05, 2022 01:11 PM (1n+EO)

142 "America has pissed away untold billions of dollars on militarizing our police, training them in the latest tactics, and we ended up with a bunch of fat f$%ks sitting on their hands or pepper spraying parents who wanted to go save their kids from a homicidal maniac."

I disagree with this character generalization. They're not all fat f$%ks, a few are crazy roided up f$%ks.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 05, 2022 01:11 PM (qH6FZ)

143 Megthered, that teacher has lawyered up.

Posted by: Ben Had at June 05, 2022 01:11 PM (zcQDR)

144 Opps, excuse me Ace and CBD.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2022 01:11 PM (4UJrj)

145 I blame the "War On Drugs" for much of the militarization of the police. Instead of decriminalizing drugs, you keep the price high by making it illegal. Then Alphonzo Luis Capone makes billions running drugs into the country. So then the PoPo has to arm up to combat the dreaded drug menace. Rinse and repeat for decades. Now the Chinamen are sending their best fentanyl and still we persist. Little Johnny Methcook and Sally Glasspipe couldn't be happier.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at June 05, 2022 01:08 PM

Reminds me of the movie "American Gangster".

Detective Richie Roberts: They don't want this to stop. It employs too many people. Cops, lawyers, judges, probation officers, prison guards... The day dope stops coming into this country, a hundred thousand people lose their jobs.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 05, 2022 01:12 PM (Do5/p)

146 I have never followed anime much, but I just decided to look up "Dominion Tank Police" for fun.

and now for the first time I know who Anna Puma is.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2022 01:13 PM (r46W7)

147 "I blame the "War On Drugs""

What war on drugs?

Posted by: lowandslow at June 05, 2022 01:13 PM (qH6FZ)

148 Megthered, good to see you.
How are y'all getting along with the gas prices?

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2022 01:14 PM (4UJrj)

149 ""I blame the "War On Drugs""

What war on drugs?"

You know...


The thing.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 05, 2022 01:14 PM (1n+EO)

150 Almost every decision we've made as a culture since the 80s has been the wrong one. So militarizing the police is just one of many.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 05, 2022 01:14 PM (ESjRY)

151 And let's not forget Janet Reno and the Elian Gonzalez fiasco.

Posted by: Infidel at June 05, 2022 01:15 PM (E0NVW)

152 Posted by: BruceWayne at June 05, 2022 01:02 PM (MGB5H)

You blaming okc on the Feds? This is where the cause and effect Venn Diagram intersects with the Left.

Not to make any of the incompetence of this justifiable but Law Enforcement has been this way since the creation of law enforcement. It's a constant job to monitor and correct the deficiencies and corruption. This is why I try not to lump everyone into the same category. We need good people to want to be in law enforcement.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at June 05, 2022 01:15 PM (hcR8z)

153 And let's not forget Janet Reno and the Elian Gonzalez fiasco.

Ah yes, back when the left was claiming it was perfectly fine to storm a house with a SWAT team to go after one immigrant without "documentation"

Posted by: 18-1 at June 05, 2022 01:16 PM (ESjRY)

154 Ben Had- not surprised. I don't think we'll hear any truth from anyone since lawyers are now involved. I hope those families get justice, one way or the other.

Posted by: Megthered at June 05, 2022 01:16 PM (AdxHD)

155 via Fox News, yesterday:

At the first meeting of the Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District (UCISD) board since the deadly mass shooting, members took no action against school police chief Pete Arredondo.

The meeting – which opened with prayer – was called in response to the May 24 attack by a lone gunman at Robb Elementary school that left 19 students and two teachers dead.

Although the agenda allowed the board to terminate Arredondo, in a part of a meeting that was behind closed doors, they declined to do so, according to The Texas Tribune.

Accountability? You're soaking in it.

https://tinyurl.com/4uxaurss

Oh, I also mentioned the other day that I looked at the school district website, and they show their performance ranking by the TX DOE or whatever they call it there, scale 1 to 10... Uvalde SD gets 1/10. Bottom of the barrel.

Posted by: GnuBreed at June 05, 2022 01:16 PM (F0YaR)

156 I will be incommunicado for the duration

just made my first of many martinis

Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2022 01:17 PM (us2H3)

157 I disagree. The forces that act on hiring and retention of the police have distorted their ranks.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
--------

While there might be *slightly* more inertia, the same might be said of the military.

Posted by: Mike Hammer's squandered youth at June 05, 2022 01:17 PM (RuRuy)

158 That attitude hasn't been popular or defensible around here for a very long time!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Yep, 'twas a hard pill to swallow, but you'd have to be completely blind not to see.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at June 05, 2022 01:17 PM (BI6Ze)

159 Do we have the full story yet? Like the door propped open story, or the shooter was outside for ten minutes ... a few other details seemed odd at first.

How many were shot during the time cops left him "barricaded" with with the kids?

Posted by: illiniwek at June 05, 2022 01:18 PM (Cus5s)

160 The First Cops

A long time ago a group of farmers made a deal with a group of bandits.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2022 01:18 PM (4UJrj)

161 133 Hey! Who’s ready for my gun Buy Back Better program?
Posted by: Joe Biden at June 05, 2022 01:08 PM

how about a "no questions asked" trade in? As long as we can trade for the stuff we are arming the Ukraine civilians with.

Posted by: Fool Otto at June 05, 2022 01:19 PM (DB16e)

162 OT.
3yo Eli is back in PICU (he had bern moved to the regular ward because he was improving post brain surgery) as he is getting seizures. Family is asking for continued prayers.
Posted by: vmom

Okay

Posted by: JT at June 05, 2022 01:19 PM (arJlL)

163 Brainard
Hi! We've been sitting in Ohio, husband and I have had some medical procedures and we're chilling until October
just watching diesel go up higher and higher. We canceled travel plans partly because of medical issues but mostly because of brain dead Biden and the uncertainty of the economy. Heading back to Florida in October.

Posted by: Megthered at June 05, 2022 01:21 PM (AdxHD)

164 what we have left are cops that are short and newbies who aren't either trained enough or just not up snuff in the first place

combine that with lousy leadership and you got yourself a steaming pile of shit

Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2022 01:21 PM (us2H3)

165 Arming teachers is a bad idea. Most of them are barely competent. I made the head of the English department cry in class with barely a modicum of ridicule. Had he a gun, he would have shot me. He did everything he could to get payback.

They have enough responsibly and are in too deep to be stable.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 05, 2022 01:21 PM (BP3/z)

166 "They don't want this to stop. It employs too many people."

I don't know the motivation but our problem is there was never was a war on drugs. For the last 40 years we basically decriminalized using. Instead the Barney Fife Detectives spent all their time and resources trying to find the distributers, but their own incompetence assured that wasn't going to work.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 05, 2022 01:21 PM (qH6FZ)

167 Everything is going to get much worse. No matter what laws, EO's, or court rulings mandate; DO NOT GIVE UP YOUR GUNS.

And if the authorities come to confiscate them, well....

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at June 05, 2022 01:22 PM (Qhnrt)

168 Praying, vmom.

Posted by: Barkingmad59, wandering lurkette at June 05, 2022 01:22 PM (0cQ8W)

169 Arming teachers is a bad idea. Most of them are barely competent. I made the head of the English department cry in class with barely a modicum of ridicule. Had he a gun, he would have shot me. He did everything he could to get payback.
They have enough responsibly and are in too deep to be stable.
Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 05, 2022 01:21 PM (BP3/z)

You put that dress on young man or you get it between the eyes!

Posted by: Sodomite Teacher With A Gun at June 05, 2022 01:23 PM (R/m4+)

170 what we have left are cops that are short and newbies who aren't either trained enough or just not up snuff in the first place

combine that with lousy leadership and you got yourself a steaming pile of shit
Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2022 01:21 PM (us2H3)

My earlier point is you could have said that in 1930. It's a constant battle.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at June 05, 2022 01:23 PM (hcR8z)

171 And let's not forget Janet Reno and the Elian Gonzalez fiasco.

Ah yes, back when the left was claiming it was perfectly fine to storm a house with a SWAT team to go after one immigrant without "documentation"
Posted by: 18-1
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To refresh the memory of some of us, the picture: https://tinyurl.com/2sv87nvc

Recall that his mother drowned in her effort to get him to U.S.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 05, 2022 01:23 PM (wcs7v)

172 Ohio bill, or law?, will let teachers carry if they want to. They have to take training and additional training every year.
Teacher's packing -if they want to- is good idea. imo

Ohio permitless carry about to be law

Posted by: Fool Otto at June 05, 2022 01:24 PM (DB16e)

173 The war on drugs?
We lost

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at June 05, 2022 01:25 PM (kf6Ak)

174 don't know the motivation but our problem is there was never was a war on drugs. For the last 40 years we basically decriminalized using. Instead the Barney Fife Detectives spent all their time and resources trying to find the distributers, but their own incompetence assured that wasn't going to work.
Posted by: lowandslow at June 05, 2022 01:21 PM (qH6FZ)

I understand the sentiment but the war on drugs did rescue Miami. It also made Colombia our best South American ally.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at June 05, 2022 01:25 PM (hcR8z)

175 49 "To be fair it might be more sentient than Biden."

You misspelled 'certainly is'.

Which reminded me to respond to the ONT
Sat joke is a repeat.
Posted by: SFGoth at June 05, 2022 03:08 AM (KAi1n)

You gotta repeat them for FJB.

Posted by: Ciampino at June 05, 2022 01:26 PM (qfLjt)

176 Vmom- babies shouldn't have to go through that. Prayers for all.

Posted by: Megthered at June 05, 2022 01:26 PM (AdxHD)

177 >>>You put that dress on young man or you get it between the eyes!

Posted by: Sodomite Teacher With A Gun

>Dude's wife found a bull in the athletics department and he didn't like being reminded that he was cucked before the divorce. Whatever. Dude was a pansy.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 05, 2022 01:27 PM (BP3/z)

178 my guess is next year, with the GOP on his bony ass, Brandon will flip the script and start complaining about the GOP picking on an old man

will also dovetail nicely in a "I dunno what was goiing on" defense with Hunter

Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2022 01:29 PM (us2H3)

179 Discussed here, among other locations, the law enforcement community as a whole is due for a serious reckoning and it's not going to be pretty.

Related; the justice community is due for a serious reckoning and it won't be pretty either.

Bet they happen hand-in-hand.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at June 05, 2022 01:29 PM (BFigT)

180 Glad y'all fared well, the Clinic is good medicine. You missed a round table conversation of procedures the other night. Seems to be the season.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2022 01:29 PM (4UJrj)

181 Ethics? On the job? Whaaaaat?

Posted by: Too many law enforcement officers at June 05, 2022 01:31 PM (AMIL/)

182 The war on drugs was to control who gets to traffic the drugs.


Teachers will not accept the responsibility of being armed guards.


The police have been militarized for control of the populace/cattle.


Yeah, I'm jaded.

Posted by: davidt at June 05, 2022 01:31 PM (vkJL/)

183 Kevin Mac and Cheese's body language tells me that he plans on doing nada next year

exactly as the Dims thought of him

Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2022 01:31 PM (us2H3)

184 There are of course good and bad cops in every force. The issue is always the percentage of the bad ones who are in fact evil influences on the greater whole. They are also the ones that will go full psycho when the reckoning arrives.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatarem at June 05, 2022 01:32 PM (rK4Gd)

185 they should hire and arm midgets to dress up like kids and put them in the classroom incognito

like air marshalls

Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2022 01:33 PM (us2H3)

186 "To be fair it might be more sentient than Biden."
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You gotta repeat them for FJB.
Posted by: Ciampino
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You must speak slowly, and repeat the big words for Joey.

Posted by: Doctor Jane Biden at June 05, 2022 01:34 PM (Wmbtn)

187 Schools and guns - https://is.gd/OmCXad
_COLORADO SPRINGS. FASTER Colorado - https://is.gd/MvRAzX

_Texas, School Marshal Program - https://is.gd/vvjSnP

_Clarksville AR, [2013] https://is.gd/e6bK2Z
_Grand Saline ISD, TX - https://is.gd/J2t54a

_USCCA, article & list, scroll - https://is.gd/ZrDfhN

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2022 01:34 PM (4UJrj)

188 2 minutes with that door I will tell you if lock failed

Have doubts

Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2022 01:35 PM (2JoB8)

189 "I understand the sentiment but the war on drugs did rescue Miami. It also made Colombia our best South American ally."
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at June 05, 2022 01:25 PM (hcR8z)


I'm sure there were a few positives but no one will convince me that what we have today in modern policing in a net plus. I'm with CBD on this, policing is just a fiscally draining jobs program filled with people that use their authority to harass the people they're supposed to protect.
I do have some respect for inner city cops, they do in fact face some risk on a regular basis.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 05, 2022 01:35 PM (qH6FZ)

190 "when she arrived on the scene she was immediately handcuffed by a US marshal"

*

Gosh, what are the odds they'd be on site and just standing around doing nothing?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the CEO of Moderna acknowledged the presence of patented sequence in Covid-19 at June 05, 2022 01:35 PM (MIDoM)

191 188 2 minutes with that door I will tell you if lock failed

Have doubts
Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2022 01:35 PM (2JoB

that's what I told my best friend when he told me his wife was frigid

Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2022 01:37 PM (us2H3)

192 bee : fish :: murder hornet : shark

Posted by: anachronda at June 05, 2022 01:37 PM (uqEUq)

193 185 they should hire and arm midgets to dress up like kids and put them in the classroom incognito

like air marshalls

Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2022 01:33 PM (us2H3)

Under the Rainbow - School Security Edition.

Posted by: Tom Servo at June 05, 2022 01:38 PM (r46W7)

194 The war on drugs?
We lost
Posted by: vmom
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Yeah, I think the clincher is the city-run needle 'exchanges'.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 05, 2022 01:38 PM (Wmbtn)

195 Arming teachers is a bad idea.
*

Is anyone suggesting this, or is it a strawman?

All I've seen is teachers with the understanding of the responsibilities of firearms who want to use their concealed carry permits on campus should be able to.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the CEO of Moderna acknowledged the presence of patented sequence in Covid-19 at June 05, 2022 01:39 PM (MIDoM)

196 having fresh tortilla soup today for lunch

and just made my second martini

life is good

Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2022 01:39 PM (us2H3)

197 The war on drugs? Cartels and China racking up 200 kills a day on fentylnyl. But guns.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatarem at June 05, 2022 01:40 PM (rK4Gd)

198 And did anyone notice Biden cited the Vegas shooting in his gun ban speech?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the CEO of Moderna acknowledged the presence of patented sequence in Covid-19 at June 05, 2022 01:40 PM (MIDoM)

199 28 Any updates on the Philadelphia shooting last night, with three dead, at least 11 wounded, and multiple shooters?

Seems to be getting the same media coverage as the escaped prisoner in Texas, who murdered 5 members of one family. Including four children.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 05, 2022 12:19 PM (1n+EO)


On Wednesday a 12-year old boy committed armed robbery of a convenience store in Hartford, MI. He was armed with a 9mm handgun. To demonstrate it wasn't a toy, he fired a round into the ceiling. The clerk gave him bag of money and he ran out. He was arrested a short time later and said he got the gun out of his grandfather's safe, supposedly locked.

Another sign of the breakdown of morals and consequent rise of lawlessness.

Posted by: crusader at June 05, 2022 01:41 PM (AMIL/)

200 ----
Yeah, I think the clincher is the city-run needle 'exchanges'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 05, 2022 01:38 PM (Wmbtn)
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If they do that then they should allow them to buy pharmaceutical drugs. They wouldn't over dose unless they wanted to and illness trips and costs to the emergency would be eliminated.

This would cut the cartels out of the loop and save the city money at the same time.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2022 01:42 PM (4UJrj)

201 the problem in this country is the good people have stopped killing the bad people

when applied correctly, will usually stop any problem

Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2022 01:42 PM (us2H3)

202 attention normies. The cops are not required to protect you. The Scotus case is called township of castle rock v. Gonzales.

Anyone that thinks otherwise is obviously an idiot.

Posted by: Troy at June 05, 2022 01:42 PM (xeB56)

203 Let's give 'em their own theme song. I don't remember the artist's name, and I think this was released in the '70s sometime - the title: 'Coward(-s) of the County'. Fits, yes?

Posted by: Dr_No at June 05, 2022 01:42 PM (mu5GU)

204 The war on drugs?
We lost
Posted by: vmom
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Yeah, I think the clincher is the city-run needle 'exchanges'.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

I never did get my FREE crack pipe !

Posted by: JT at June 05, 2022 01:42 PM (arJlL)

205 I feel like HAL at the end of 2001

Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2022 01:43 PM (us2H3)

206 bee : fish :: murder hornet : shark
Posted by: anachronda
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I think I figured out that CA court decision declaring the bumblebee to be a fish. I suspect that the CA DNR used this to clinch the argument:
https://tinyurl.com/5y2cauab

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 05, 2022 01:43 PM (4akfh)

207 Another thing I found fascinating was Biden insisted that ARs are so dangerous that they should be banned and no one should own one, or at least no one under 21 should be able to purchase one.

See what he accidentally admitted there? Turns out they're not all that dangerous.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the CEO of Moderna acknowledged the presence of patented sequence in Covid-19 at June 05, 2022 01:43 PM (MIDoM)

208 the problem in this country is the good people have stopped killing the bad people
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Really?

Seems that a woman killed a bad guy just the other day.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at June 05, 2022 01:43 PM (sg1sy)

209 the problem in this country is the good people have stopped killing the bad people

*

Close the thread.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the CEO of Moderna acknowledged the presence of patented sequence in Covid-19 at June 05, 2022 01:43 PM (MIDoM)

210
I never did get my FREE crack pipe !
Posted by: JT
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Obamaphone? Did you at least get an Obamaphone?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 05, 2022 01:44 PM (4akfh)

211 Maybe now we could set up some Marine Drag Queens in a situation where a shooter might go to.

Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2022 01:44 PM (2JoB8)

212 208 the problem in this country is the good people have stopped killing the bad people
___

Really?

Seems that a woman killed a bad guy just the other day.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at June 05, 2022 01:43 PM (sg1sy)


one is not a trend, sister woman

Posted by: REDACTED at June 05, 2022 01:44 PM (us2H3)

213 I was born with a crack pipe

Posted by: SHEP at June 05, 2022 01:45 PM (us2H3)

214 Seems that a woman killed a bad guy just the other day.
Posted by: SMH
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For a change, actually stunning and brave.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at June 05, 2022 01:45 PM (4akfh)

215 whatevers

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at June 05, 2022 01:45 PM (sg1sy)

216 *goes back to lurking*

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at June 05, 2022 01:46 PM (sg1sy)

217 Cowardly cops or protecting the shooters flank while s/he/it completes the mission - a distinction without difference.

Or as has been said - the want your guns to make it safer to kill jou.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 05, 2022 01:47 PM (5ossb)

218 Let's give 'em their own theme song. I don't remember the artist's name, and I think this was released in the '70s sometime - the title: 'Coward(-s) of the County'. Fits, yes?
Posted by: Dr_No at June 05, 2022 01:42 PM (mu5GU)

Kenny Rogers

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 05, 2022 01:48 PM (ZCfi+)

219 Seems that a woman killed a bad guy just the other day.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at June 05, 2022 01:43 PM (sg1sy)

Local news.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at June 05, 2022 01:50 PM (Qhnrt)

220 Go protect your property in 90% of the United States and see what happens.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the CEO of Moderna acknowledged the presence of patented sequence in Covid-19 at June 05, 2022 01:50 PM (MIDoM)

221 Post Chauvin, no cop is risking his life or the potential for a life in prison for an ungrateful public.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 05, 2022 01:50 PM (3vQN0)

222 attention normies. The cops are not required to protect you. The Scotus case is called township of castle rock v. Gonzales.

The FNM: You normies don't need guns to defend yourself from spree killing trannies...that's what the cops are for!

The story under discussion: A spree killing tranny had free reign, protected by the cops, to kill as many kids as he wanted until an off duty BORTAC agent snuck in and killed him.

We really are in clown world aren't we?

Posted by: 18-1 at June 05, 2022 01:51 PM (ESjRY)

223 But the Coward of the County rose up and f*cked up them Gatlin boys so I don't think it would make a good theme song.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 05, 2022 01:52 PM (ZCfi+)

224 In yet another example of a cloistered elite yapping, Coach K says it's disgusting to want an automatic weapon. My question, who doesn't want one right?

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatarem at June 05, 2022 01:52 PM (Uo8tk)

225 When seconds count cops are 45 minutes away watching tik tok videos.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 05, 2022 01:52 PM (3vQN0)

226 I'm using Opera today.
Brave went totally bananas yesterday. None of the buttons worked, no up, down, end, reload. And when they were pushed it got the shakes.

So far Opera is OK but I read that it's Chinese.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2022 01:52 PM (4UJrj)

227 This comes down to the poor decision on whether this was a barricaded armed person with hostages or an active shooter.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at June 05, 2022 01:53 PM (hcR8z)

228 The FNM: You normies don't need guns to defend yourself from spree killing trannies...that's what the cops are for!

Posted by: 18-1 at June 05, 2022 01:51 PM (ESjRY)


When guns are outlawed, only outlaws have guns.

Posted by: crusader at June 05, 2022 01:54 PM (AMIL/)

229 194 The war on drugs?
We lost
Posted by: vmom
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Yeah, I think the clincher is the city-run needle 'exchanges'.
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And the crackpipes in the care packages.

Posted by: Ciampino at June 05, 2022 01:54 PM (qfLjt)

230 Chinese Opera loses a lot in translation.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 05, 2022 01:54 PM (jYQlA)

231 If memory serves, K. Rogers and the Gatlin bros had a thing going on.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2022 01:54 PM (4UJrj)

232 I do think the Chauvin Effect is what the Leftists wanted.

Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2022 01:54 PM (2JoB8)

233 221 Post Chauvin, no cop is risking his life or the potential for a life in prison for an ungrateful public.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 05, 2022 01:50 PM (3vQN0)

and don't forget Darren Wilson or the lady cop that went to jail

a cop's mind is not a vacuum

Posted by: SHEP at June 05, 2022 01:56 PM (us2H3)

234 This comes down to the poor decision on whether this was a barricaded armed person with hostages or an active shooter.

At my work I am required to make decisions on a regular basis with incomplete information.

Mostly I'm right, occasionally I'm wrong. But I balance risk and reward. If I cause catastrophic loss, I will be fired.

This doesn't seem to apply to ANYONE in government. From George Tenet getting a damn medal after allowing 9/11 to the Uvalde cops f*cking around while the tranny spree killer was killing kids.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 05, 2022 01:56 PM (ESjRY)

235 "Arming teachers is a bad idea.
*

Is anyone suggesting this, or is it a strawman? "

I have seen, and support the idea of with proper training, those teachers who wish to, be allowed to.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at June 05, 2022 01:56 PM (1n+EO)

236 You can’t spend 2 years demonizing the police as blood thirsty killers then complain they didn’t go into a building guns blazing to kill someone. Well you shouldn’t but of course the media will.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 05, 2022 01:57 PM (3vQN0)

237 227 This comes down to the poor decision on whether this was a barricaded armed person with hostages or an active shooter.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at June 05, 2022 01:53 PM (hcR8z)
===============

And Borrego had just come back from a two week course.

Posted by: Braenyard at June 05, 2022 01:57 PM (4UJrj)

238 Kenny Rogers made some great chicken.
Ask Kramer.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at June 05, 2022 01:57 PM (jYQlA)

239 The media is the Propaganda arm of the Democrat/Marxists

Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2022 01:58 PM (2JoB8)

240 Kenny Rogers made some great chicken.
Ask Kramer.
Posted by: Quarter Twenty

Mr. Marbles?!

Posted by: BruceWayne at June 05, 2022 01:58 PM (MGB5H)

241 Kenny Rogers chicken was pretty damn good. There was a location in my town growing up.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 05, 2022 01:59 PM (3vQN0)

242 232 I do think the Chauvin Effect is what the Leftists wanted.
Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2022 01:54 PM (2JoB8

Maybe the cops thought the shooter was a black tranny. Definitely don't want to shoot a black tranny in these days and times.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at June 05, 2022 01:59 PM (Qhnrt)

243 Post Chauvin, no cop is risking his life or the potential for a life in prison for an ungrateful public.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 05, 2022 01:50 PM (3vQN0)

I do kind of get that, but there were CHILDREN in there being murdered. I just don't get how a protective instinct doesn't override that.

Posted by: Jordan61 at June 05, 2022 01:59 PM (ZCfi+)

244 >>>This comes down to the poor decision on whether this was a barricaded armed person with hostages or an active shooter.

>Too much Hollywood. This isn't a bank job with an armored vault and a negotiated demand for an airplane ride to the Caymans.

School = active shooter.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at June 05, 2022 02:00 PM (BP3/z)

245 Just remember NOBODY lost their jobs over Parkland, they Fired the School Officer was later reinstated with full back pay and pension.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 05, 2022 02:00 PM (dKiJG)

246 Conservatives for too long have "worshipped the badge" of law enforcement for far too long.

Funny they have no problem deploying a swat team for something like a pretty minor drug bust but freeze up when an active gunner goes into a school.

I would wager the majority of law enforcement is simply traffic enforcement.

Posted by: Blago at June 05, 2022 02:00 PM (j11SQ)

247 218 Let's give 'em their own theme song. I don't remember the artist's name, and I think this was released in the '70s sometime - the title: 'Coward(-s) of the County'. Fits, yes?
Posted by: Dr_No at June 05, 2022 01:42 PM (mu5GU)

Kenny Rogers

No, Glen Campbell.
I was in Africa and had no idea what a lineman was. I figured maybe a railway guy.

Posted by: Ciampino at June 05, 2022 02:00 PM (qfLjt)

248 1st at Nood
1st at Nood call

Posted by: Skip at June 05, 2022 02:01 PM (2JoB8)

249 The most difficult concept normals have in defending self and property is that in this day and age, hesitation is death. There is an evil stalking the land, and waiting for the cops or hoping the sociopath who chooses you isn't a killer is the same kind of irrational.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatarem at June 05, 2022 02:01 PM (Uo8tk)

250 To me Chauvin effect isn’t just race. It’s the potential for anything to go wrong. In a school situation the most obvious is you get into a shootout and you kill a kind or teacher. And you spend the next 50 years in prison for it. The atmosphere today is anything other than perfect textbook behavior by the police leads to problems. And so the default position is do nothing because that will lead to the least amount of problems.

A few years ago this was not the case.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 05, 2022 02:02 PM (3vQN0)

251 You can’t spend 2 years demonizing the police as blood thirsty killers then complain they didn’t go into a building guns blazing to kill someone. Well you shouldn’t but of course the media will.

Yes, I'm sure BLM had a big impact on the mindset of a small town South Texas police force in an area that is 75% Hispanic and has virtually no blacks.

Cops did the same thing in Parkland. In 2018. Was America not sufficiently servile for the police to do their job 4 years ago too?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 05, 2022 02:03 PM (KFhLj)

252 Post Chauvin, no cop is risking his life or the potential for a life in prison for an ungrateful public.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 05, 2022 01:50 PM (3vQN0)

Yeah Chauvin got shafted by the system but he's part of the system, or was. That whole arrest scenario highlighted to me how absurd the whole police system has got. You got Floyd dead to rights passing counterfeit bills, force him in the back seat, shut the door and take him to the station. Instead they all looked around wondering how to play it, out in the public eye for 45 minutes. They just showed the world how indecisive and stupid they are.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 05, 2022 02:04 PM (qH6FZ)

253 Yes in 2018 BLM had been in full force as well. You proved my point.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 05, 2022 02:05 PM (3vQN0)

254 I would wager the majority of law enforcement is simply traffic enforcement.
Posted by: Blago

It is staking a nice cul de sack with shade for hours and hours and hours every day.

Posted by: Itinerant Alley Butcher at June 05, 2022 02:06 PM (5ossb)

255 244 >>>This comes down to the poor decision on whether this was a barricaded armed person with hostages or an active shooter.

>Too much Hollywood. This isn't a bank job with an armored vault and a negotiated demand for an airplane ride to the Caymans.
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In the TV series Dinosaurs, when the Baby was being held hostage by 'the Food' in the fridge, the ransom demand by the Food spokesmorsel was "We want 30,000 helicopters and a dollar!"
Great series that.

Posted by: Ciampino at June 05, 2022 02:07 PM (qfLjt)

256 252

I’m Not saying cops are angels. But when you demonize a group of people for years and years, don’t expect that group of people to help out when you need them.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 05, 2022 02:07 PM (3vQN0)

257 Chauvin just gave the excuse to 90% of the cops who were never going to risk their life for the public, grateful or not.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatarem at June 05, 2022 02:08 PM (Uo8tk)

258 You've been on and on about Chauvin and Floyd the whole time. Happened in 2020. You're just kinda full of shit on this one. But carry on.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 05, 2022 02:08 PM (KFhLj)

259 258

Oh so it happened in 2020 and now the public is back to supporting cops? Lol. Whatever man. If you want to ignore reality be my guest.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 05, 2022 02:09 PM (3vQN0)

260 Chauvin just gave the excuse to 90% of the cops who were never going to risk their life for the public, grateful or not.
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatarem at June 05, 2022 02:08 PM (Uo8tk)

It’s easy to say that. Does your job have the potential for you to face a life in prison while performing your normal duties?

Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 05, 2022 02:11 PM (3vQN0)

261 We had a Police Dog that was killed when the the officer accidentally pushed the release door button, the dog ran out and was killed in traffic, The officer should have been fired on the spot.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at June 05, 2022 02:13 PM (dKiJG)

262 DeShanwy v. Winnebago County was handed down in 1989. That'd be one of the Supreme Court decisions holding cops have no duty to protect citizens. So the phenomenon of cops not doing their jobs goes way, way back in time. Long before BLM. Town of Castle Rock v. Gonzales was in 2005. Again, way before BLM. The idea that cops were stand-up guys until America hurt their feelings and became insufficiently respectful is cop propaganda. They've always sucked.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 05, 2022 02:14 PM (KFhLj)

263 I'm thinking maybe civil and tort laws need to be reformed along with police enforcement.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at June 05, 2022 02:15 PM (Qhnrt)

264 I’m Not saying cops are angels. But when you demonize a group of people for years and years, don’t expect that group of people to help out when you need them.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at June 05, 2022 02:07 PM (3vQN0)

Then what's the point of having them? Conservatives need to wrap their mind around the fact that most police departments are a money suck hole overstaffed with cops that don't do anything but target citizens that won't be much of a risk.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 05, 2022 02:19 PM (qH6FZ)

265
Then what's the point of having them?

In Heritage America the point of the police was to protect property rights and enforce the laws specifically so the citizens would not have to.

The left sees that as...racist. And sexist. And homophobic. And on and on.

So they are attempting to reform the police as an organization that won't do that but will instead enforce the dictates of the state. And just like in the Soviet Union, traditional crime enforcement will take a back seat to ideological enforcement, because street criminals are at worst a nuisance, at best a tool, for advancing the narrative.

In some places they've succeeded fully, in many more places they've had some impact. And the problem, as always, is some individual cops resist...but they are facing a collective.

Want to stop this? Then you need an organized movement. Which we do not have.

Posted by: 18-1 at June 05, 2022 02:24 PM (ESjRY)

266 I should clarify Castle Rock (2005) is the decision specifically about cops. It builds on DeShaney (1989) which involves CPS or some similar agency.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 05, 2022 02:30 PM (KFhLj)

267 I have no idea why someone who argues cops won't act because of a singularity won't accept they might just not act, owing to the general law of self preservation. Your inference that somehow I am unqualified to offer the second point is indicative of very poor logic skills.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatarem at June 05, 2022 02:30 PM (Uo8tk)

268 We doing hockey here, or in the 1st World problems thread?

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at June 05, 2022 02:33 PM (BgMrQ)

269 "So they are attempting to reform the police as an organization that won't do that but will instead enforce the dictates of the state. And just like in the Soviet Union, traditional crime enforcement will take a back seat to ideological enforcement,"

As the whole Covid fiasco demonstrated. It also showcased how deep the rot goes, it's infested even the most rural police dept. An entire nation of cops willing to, as you said, enforce the unconstitutional dictates of the state.

Posted by: lowandslow at June 05, 2022 02:34 PM (qH6FZ)

270 Yeah, funny how BLM didn't demoralize Meal Team Six, right?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at June 05, 2022 02:39 PM (KFhLj)

271 The fun question: where was Ramos born? Reports say he was from North Dakota, but then they also say that terrorist shooter Mohammed M. Mohammed was from Oxnard.

Memo to MSM: when we ask where someone is from, we don't want to know where someone lived most recently. We want to know his background.

For my part, I'd bet dollars to doughnuts that young Ramos was an illegal alien, or the son of illegal aliens. Especially when he was living within spitting distance of the southern border.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at June 05, 2022 02:45 PM (cK+AV)

272 not the only ones. bureaucrats in the Texas prison system neglected to notify county residents that a murderer they were transporting got loose. as a result, a person I know had her brother's son and his grandkids MURDERED.

Posted by: gov't here to help at June 05, 2022 03:07 PM (h2Opm)

273 I have read Ace of Spades for many years. I'm from Uvalde. I know many of the people involved. I didn't know the shooter. There is no way the cops are "deep state."

Many people in the majority Hispanic city have been very critical of the police there going back a long time. Most of this criticism is irrational. The criticism comes from an anti-cop attitude. Now these folks have an international media megaphone.

The woman said that the police freed her after the Marshals handcuffed her. (US Marshals who have a presence at the county jail.) I completely agree she should not have been handcuffed.

Keep this in mind. No local law enforcement agency (Uvalde PD, Uvalde CISD, Uvalde SO) has issued any official statement defending what they did. They are cooperating with the investigation in full and they will let investigation reports speak.

I'm really disappointed in the emotional rant by CBD. I would hate to see AoS slip.

Posted by: Ace Reader from Uvalde at June 05, 2022 03:13 PM (tQxKy)

274 I don't care much about an investigation.

Cops stood around for an hour waiting for the dying kids to stop screaming because they were afraid they might get shot at. The police spokesman stated that plainly.

Police officers went and removed THEIR children from the school while tasering parents and standing off against them while they pleaded for the cops to do something to help the children, and if they wouldn't then to please let the parents. The police spokesman stated that plainly.

Someone with balls had to leave a barbershop with a borrowed shotgun to end it after an hour of both local and federal LEOs doing nothing but listening to the dying screams of children.

Who are you going to believe, them or your lying eyes?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the CEO of Moderna acknowledged the presence of patented sequence in Covid-19 at June 05, 2022 03:22 PM (MIDoM)

275 There is a lot of misinformation going around and if you want the facts like I do and not a lot of media rumors and gossip we are both going to have to wait for the investigation reports to be completed and released.

Posted by: Ace Reader from Uvalde at June 05, 2022 03:35 PM (tQxKy)

276 Or you can watch the interview with lieutenant Estrada and iirc the chief.

Estrada clearly states that officers removed their children from the school during the shooting.

Another lieutenant stated this. Again, very clearly:

"At that point, if they proceeded further without knowing where this suspect was at, they could have been shot, they could have been killed."

They could have been shot while trying to save those dying children, you know.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the CEO of Moderna acknowledged the presence of patented sequence in Covid-19 at June 05, 2022 03:41 PM (MIDoM)

277 The Two Bobs to the Uvalde po-po: "So what do you say you do around here?"

Posted by: butch at June 05, 2022 04:05 PM (HhpjT)

278 The time has long passed when those of us on the Right should be "backing the blue" unconditionally.

Posted by: go get your fuckin shine box at June 05, 2022 04:25 PM (WusEB)

279 "6 I still can't wrap my head around the fact that NOT ONE of them had the balls to say, f*ck this, I'm going in."

I wasn't there so I don't know anything but I shoot with a team. One guy going into that room is not a plan. They needed at least three people, four would be better. So, now you need four people to say "F*ck it!" and the they have to know how to shoot, move, and communicate AS A TEAM.

And if everything doesn't turn out perfectly ... if those heroes weren't following orders, then they will be fired, sued, charged with some crime, and probably jailed for not following orders.

Every one of us allowed this situation to get this way. If you don't like the liberal "Just Do Something!" shrieking, this is your "do something" moment. If you don't like it then YOU do something. Run for office. Canvas your neighbors so that they vote to change this situation. Contribute money. Read about and talk to your representatives before you vote for them. Write letters to your representatives. Protest. Train yourself. Talk is cheap and mostly ineffective. If you want things to change then get off your ass.

Posted by: richard at June 05, 2022 06:44 PM (xGLnO)

280 The blog "The New Neo" has a ton of careful information on this and is not jumping to conclusions.
Long discussion about why the door was unlocked.

Timing. Latest is that it was about five minutes between Ramos' first shots--which would make him a shooter worthy of police attention--and the time he was in a classroom behind a steel door killing kids. No time for cops to get there and go in hard before he was protected by a door which would need some professional breaching, or somebody finding somebody with the master key.

IOW, Ramos was not wandering the halls making himself a target for the first cop who showed up.

I get displacement. Ramos is dead and thence not a target for grief and anger, which has to go someplace. Someplace else.

So we are treated to endless stories of cop fuckups which, even if true, do not apply to a steel door. From the surveillance--sound--most of the shooting, which is to say killing of the kids, happened quite early in the timing. There were no more left and Ramos wasn't coming out looking for more targets.

It was static until they could get the door open.

Posted by: Richard Aubrey at June 05, 2022 08:13 PM (dSnnl)

281 Not the same town, but the same level of ridicule applies. Heh

https://tinyurl.com/ms7r67nd

Posted by: Grog at June 05, 2022 09:58 PM (esAC9)

282 Dude, they're Democrat cops in a Democrat city in a Democrat county. They're ALLOWED...

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at June 05, 2022 10:43 PM (8fxF+)

283 The Uvalde police just don't seem to know when to stop digging. This will eventually end all of their law enforcement careers. If they don't slow it down, it might even put some of them in prison.

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