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One of AllahPundit's favorite "journalists:"


Aaron Rupar
@atrupar

a big problem for Biden -- and it's not totally his fault -- is that for the last year his administration has been forced to react to bad stuff, instead of proactively talking about good things he's doing. it's hard to get enthusiastic about a leader reeling from crisis to crisis

It's weird how a president who creates one disaster after another is then forced to react to those disasters. What a drag. Why can't he just talk about all the great stuff he's done like... um...

Uhhhh...

Well he's got us on an "incredible transition" to a non-fossil fuel based economy, by driving up the price of gasoline so high we can't afford it.

And gas prices will soar to their highest levels ever this Memorial Day weekend.

People traveling by vehicles for the Memorial Day 2022 holiday weekend will feel the pain at the pump in their wallet.

Americans will be paying about $1.50 a more per gallon of gas to travel this weekend -- the highest they have ever paid.

The national average gas price today is $4.59 a gallon, according to AAA. The average price in Pennsylvania is $4.77 a gallon -- the highest ever.

The average price in the Harrisburg area are 9.8 cents higher than a week ago settling in at $4.69 a gallon today, according to GasBuddy. Locally we are paying 55 cents a gallon more than a month ago and $1.58 a gallon more than a year ago.

The question everyone is asking is -- will gas prices hit $5 a gallon?

Maybe.

Up ten cents in a week.

Now that is an incredible transition.

Emmerson has Biden's approval falling to 38%, from 42% in April; one in three people say they've changed their holiday plans due to the high price of gas.


Club for Growth, which opposes Liz Cheney's reelection bid, has a poll showing her way, way down.

The poll, which provides perhaps the starkest illustration yet of the political peril Cheney faces this year, shows Wyoming attorney Harriet Hageman garnering 56 percent of the vote to Cheney's 26 percent in the GOP primary. A third Republican got 12 percent support, and just 6 percent are undecided.

Don't worry; she'll be running as an "independent" with Democrat support.


The ACLJ has gotten possession through FOIA of a memo establishing that John Kerry was illegally conducting foreign policy with Iran behind Trump's back and against his wishes and contrary to Trump's foreign policy, which was the duly-elected foreign policy of the United States.


This, actually, is a violation of the Logan Act, which criminalizes the conduct of American foreign policy while representing oneself as an official of the US government.

Kerry was plainly acting as a representative of the permanent US shadow government.

The Boston Globe put it this way: "Kerry is quietly seeking to salvage Iran deal he helped craft."

The ACLJ put it a bit more bluntly: "John Kerry tried to undermine President Trump in order to support Iran, putting our national security at risk."

Remember the stories that former Obama Secretary of State John Kerry -- no longer in office as of January 20, 2017 -- engaged in shadow diplomacy with Iran promoting foreign policy contrary to that of America's sitting President, Donald Trump? As the story continued to unfold, and more information about the Left's counter-diplomacy was revealed even just last year, the ACLJ went to work.

We launched a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request to the State Department, seeking records of State Department awareness of or involvement with Obama-era U.S. officials -- aka, the Deep State -- employing undercover backchannels in an effort to undercut President Trump's cornerstone foreign policy of withdrawing the United States from the disastrous Obama/Biden Iran Deal.


Biden to host K-Pop sensation BTS at White House to discuss Asian Representation and anti-Asian crime.

Oh my goodness, they'll have so much to talk about.

K-pop supergroup BTS will go to the White House next week to discuss a recent spate of hate crimes targeting Asians and Asian Americans with President Biden, the administration's latest attempt to use celebrities to push social and political messages.

The White House announced the May 31 visit on Thursday, adding that the septet will also "discuss Asian inclusion and representation" with the commander-in-chief.

Will they talk about the actual problem of anti-Asian violence or the Democrat/media version of it? That's not a real question.

I missed this last week -- #Woke Target badly, badly missed its earnings projections.

The retail giant reported a stunning 52% drop in profit for the first quarter, badly missing Wall Street's forecasts. The company blamed higher expenses due to continued supply chain disruptions. Consumers also are holding back on nonessential purchases because of rampant inflation.

Shares of Target (TGT) plunged 25% Wednesday, its worst day since 1987.

But what about the genderbent bathrooms and chest-binders for children?


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Rand Paul: It's not a conspiracy theory that Klaus Schwab's World Economic Forum wants a one-world government, it's in their mission statement.

Paul Ryan: We thought Biden was going to be a centrist.

Well, he says people thought. That's a way of not saying "I thought." "Me and my Neocon friends and financial backers thought."

"[L]ook, Joe Biden and I have been friends for years," Ryan outlined. "I think people thought they were going to get a centrist in office, you know, a common ground guy. That's not what he was. He gave the keys to the left, the progressives. They steered the country far-left. They tried to go so far left on so many issues, and they didn't have the majorities to do that. That's what always confounded me -- is they acted as they had these massive majorities with these leftwing ideas."

We Hobbits didn't think that.

Say, Paul, can we put you people -- the Smartest Guys in Any Room -- back in charge? You seem to get literally everything wrong, but you also keep telling us how smart you are, and I have to imagine, that kind of confidence must come from somewhere.

Surely you must get something right someday. You're due!


Posted by: Ace at 05:06 PM




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1 Sponge!

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 27, 2022 05:07 PM (nByzo)

2 last time Liz visited WY, she bagged a Mastodon

Posted by: REDACTED at May 27, 2022 05:07 PM (us2H3)

3 Aaron Rupar
@atrupar
a big problem for Biden -- and it's not totally his fault -- is that for the last year his administration has been forced to react to bad stuff, instead of proactively talking about good things he's doing. it's hard to get enthusiastic about a leader reeling from crisis to crisis

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I remember when Trump was responsible for every saber rattle across the globe.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 27, 2022 05:08 PM (LvTSG)

4 Anthropogenic Climate Change is bullshit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 27, 2022 05:09 PM (HVGD2)

5 Remind me again which big ol' meanie country is in bed with Iran again?

Posted by: ... at May 27, 2022 05:09 PM (dscaa)

6 4 Anthropogenic Climate Change is bullshit.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 27, 2022 05:09 PM (HVGD2)

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Can he say that?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 27, 2022 05:09 PM (LvTSG)

7 last time Liz visited WY, she bagged a Mastodon
Posted by: REDACTED


I WAS DRUNK, OKAY?!?

Posted by: a Mastodon at May 27, 2022 05:09 PM (P1f+c)

8 Poor Ace: in the sidebar he mentions Alan White (of Yes) passing, but then link to two songs from Fragile, which was still Bill Bruford's drumming.

I mean, he could have linked to something from Relayer or Tormato, but those albums kinda suck(ed?).

Posted by: normal at May 27, 2022 05:09 PM (obo9H)

9 I will say, the timing of the shooting took WEF off the front page completely...and that was after Prob and his people got illegally detained...

Posted by: Nova local at May 27, 2022 05:10 PM (exHjb)

10 "Let's Prevent Overdose"

I've got a 14 oz can of cashews and there is a good chance I just could do it.

Posted by: fd at May 27, 2022 05:10 PM (vrz2I)

11 K pop has to be the absolute worst "music" I've ever accidentally heard.

Posted by: NCKate at May 27, 2022 05:10 PM (2oJif)

12 I've been looking for a Ruger Vaquero.357 5.5" in Stainless Steel for a couple of years now with no luck.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 27, 2022 05:04 PM (c8pZY)

I stalked a 5.5" Bisley Blackhawk stainless for a bit before I found one, then Ruger upped the production as I recall. It is one of my favorites.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 27, 2022 05:11 PM (nByzo)

13 Oh and that was in .45 Colt.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 27, 2022 05:11 PM (nByzo)

14 "Anthropogenic Climate Change is bullshit.
Posted by: Thomas Bender "

Yeah and the idea that people have any real impact on the Earth's climate is nuts too.

Posted by: fd at May 27, 2022 05:11 PM (vrz2I)

15 Willowed, as usual--

369 My problem is, I’m not a “gadget” guy. Meaning, that I have a very steep learning curve when it comes to mechanical things. I’ve never even learned how to drive a stick shift. Operate e firearm safely? Fugedabboudit.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus
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I'm not mechanical at all, had never touched a firearm until my late 30s, started almost from scratch in November 2020 in my mid-late 40s. I'm not a good shooter by any means, but in less than 2 years I can safely and (somewhat) confidently operate a variety of pistols and revolvers, and also getting started on rifles. It can be learned.

Oh, I can't drive a stick either but going to try to learn that too.
Posted by: screaming in digital at May 27, 2022 05:09 PM (eNFcH)

Posted by: screaming in digital at May 27, 2022 05:11 PM (eNFcH)

16 BLT? They named a band after a sandwich?

Posted by: fd at May 27, 2022 05:12 PM (vrz2I)

17 You could solve a lot of the world's problems if you nuked Davos.

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at May 27, 2022 05:12 PM (ccrfq)

18 Not really Ace's fault, though, he was probably one of those dweebs who only heard Yes on the radio.

Posted by: normal at May 27, 2022 05:12 PM (obo9H)

19 You'll pay more and you'll like it.
And liking leads to loving and you know what loving leads to.

Posted by: Brandon, Winner With 81 Million Votes at May 27, 2022 05:12 PM (Y274z)

20 "Consumers also are holding back on nonessential purchases because of rampant inflation."

Holding back? Inflation is more reason to spend the money now, rather than later, I would guess. Maybe holding back because dead broke.

Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at May 27, 2022 05:13 PM (qpX6U)

21 >>>Kerry was plainly acting as a representative of the permanent US shadow government.

Traitor, but for a formal declaration of war against Iran.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 27, 2022 05:13 PM (nByzo)

22 I try not to hate, but pretty sure I hate Paul Ryan.

Who the ever f thought Biden was a centrist? at a minimum he would be considered left before his WH occupation.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 27, 2022 05:13 PM (8GBH4)

23 I've been looking for a Ruger Vaquero.357 5.5" in Stainless Steel for a couple of years now with no luck.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 27, 2022 05:04 PM


Same here, I want one to go with my stainless Rossi Model 92 in .357 magnum but zero luck.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at May 27, 2022 05:13 PM (bVYXr)

24 I don't have a problem with overdose. I'm all for it.

Posted by: NCKate at May 27, 2022 05:13 PM (2oJif)

25 Iran captured two Greek oil tankers via helicopter assault.
Greece is NATO.

Posted by: torabora at May 27, 2022 05:14 PM (Y274z)

26 Joe Bitem has fondled me for years

Posted by: Pal Ryun at May 27, 2022 05:15 PM (M+Lyo)

27 Remember when Ryan lost to Biden in the debates? Guess Ryan is a complete fucking moron.

Posted by: NCKate at May 27, 2022 05:15 PM (2oJif)

28 The great thing about Joe "Clueless Joe" Biden is that we can harken back to the collective hernia the Deep State had with the VERY IDEA that Donald Trump was President, and all the legal and illegal shenanigans they pulled to stymie the exercise of his duly-appointed powers.

They just HATED the guy.

But Joe Biden? He's the tops with the bureaucratic slime infesting DC. Our kind of guy! Just the best! We're not gonna let a dicey election and obvious senile dementia get in the way of getting some things done, no sir/madam/whatever!

No insider leaks or lawfare coming from the 'crats, no sir; they're just as contented as a freshly slopped hog.

Tells you all you need to know about them.

Posted by: William F. "Buck" Dharma at May 27, 2022 05:15 PM (oedLL)

29 Paul Ryan says Brandon is a friend of his.

Posted by: torabora at May 27, 2022 05:15 PM (Y274z)

30 >>>Poor Ace: in the sidebar he mentions Alan White (of Yes) passing, but then link to two songs from Fragile, which was still Bill Bruford's drumming.

i was afraid of something like that

Posted by: ace at May 27, 2022 05:15 PM (AkbRF)

31 Ryan knows better. Fuck him. This is to assuage his own complicity. He actually served with Lettuce Brain. He was never a centrist. Is cavorting with KKK members and outright racists- centrist? What exactly did Paul not see in Biden's often intemperate responses?

This is bullshit from people who just didn't want Trump and would take anything as an alternative in spite of the fact the American people would pay the price. Now that everyone's suffering it's like, "oh gee, who knew?. You did, asshole. Suck my dick and take that Allahpundit lying, dumpster diving lush with you.

Posted by: Marcus T, Deus Vult at May 27, 2022 05:15 PM (T0jQj)

32 Asian boy bands are a hate crime against humanity.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 27, 2022 05:16 PM (ZLI7S)

33 The left has taken over.

And UNEXPECTEDLY everything has gone to hell.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at May 27, 2022 05:16 PM (dr4Q1)

34 Let's take a moment to remember the chaos that was ensuing and the fight that was being fought on Memorial Day weekend 11 years ago. Breitbart, you will always be with us.

https://youtu.be/eIJRyJkQXyc

War!

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at May 27, 2022 05:16 PM (QYPq3)

35 Paul Ryan is the last person who should criticize someone for "giving the keys to the Left."

And I hope the market butt fucks Target to death.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 27, 2022 05:16 PM (sWM8x)

36 last time Liz visited WY, she bagged a Mastodon
Posted by: REDACTED

I WAS DRUNK!! OKAY?

Posted by: Taylor Lorenz at May 27, 2022 05:17 PM (nByzo)

37 Poor Ace: in the sidebar he mentions Alan White (of Yes) passing, but then link to two songs from Fragile, which was still Bill Bruford's drumming.

I mean, he could have linked to something from Relayer or Tormato, but those albums kinda suck(ed?).
Posted by: normal at May 27, 2022 05:09 PM (obo9H)

I think Alan White was on the first Yes Album which had "All Good People" on it.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 27, 2022 05:17 PM (eoQWY)

38 I wouldn't be surprised if Republicans select Paul Ryan as Speaker before they impeach Brandon and the Ho.

Posted by: torabora at May 27, 2022 05:17 PM (Y274z)

39 Afternoon.

K-Pop sucks.

Posted by: Robert at May 27, 2022 05:17 PM (1Yy3c)

40 Biden isn't reacting to disasters--he's creating them.

Intentionally.

Any one who dares say any of this is not intended--high gas, inflation, food shortages, pandemics, etc.--is a liar and an idiot.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 27, 2022 05:17 PM (Zf0+a)

41 unlike with bond films, nuking davos would be like letting drax release the orchid toxin, or stromberg firing off the nukes, it's a mostly autonomous thing,

yes aaron tractor rupar is aggressively some might say violently idiotic

Posted by: no 6 at May 27, 2022 05:17 PM (i0Lci)

42 Ryan really thinks the beltway is the real world, doesn't he?

Of course he probably stays in the beltway because he knows the average American hates his guts.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at May 27, 2022 05:17 PM (ZMYfe)

43 The question everyone is asking is -- will gas prices hit $5 a gallon?
____________

Californians are asking: "Will they fall that far?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 27, 2022 05:17 PM (RFAn/)

44 5 dollar gas? We blew past that, like 6 mos. ago.

Posted by: Washington State at May 27, 2022 05:17 PM (r1z5A)

45 31 Ryan knows better. Fuck him. This is to assuage his own complicity. He actually served with Lettuce Brain. He was never a centrist. Is cavorting with KKK members and outright racists- centrist? What exactly did Paul not see in Biden's often intemperate responses?

This is bullshit from people who just didn't want Trump and would take anything as an alternative in spite of the fact the American people would pay the price. Now that everyone's suffering it's like, "oh gee, who knew?. You did, asshole. Suck my dick and take that Allahpundit lying, dumpster diving lush with you.

Posted by: Marcus T, Deus Vult at May 27, 2022 05:15 PM (T0jQj)

Excellent rant.

Posted by: Taylor Lorenz at May 27, 2022 05:18 PM (nByzo)

46 I have Electric Car Privilege and it's pretty great. And I'm scheduled to get solar panels on my house, and they will make enough power to run my car. I believe in electric cars! But Biden's claims about a "transformation" are dumb and insane.

The switchover to electric cars is happening fast and everyone will be better off when it's done. But right now it's brutal for the poorest people in our society and talk about how great electric cars will be when everyone has one doesn't help.

I thought the Democrats were supposed to be the part of helping those who need help, not the party of cruelly abusing the poor. The Republicans need to hammer the Democrats on this point when elections come around.

In less than a decade, the price of gas is going to be falling because so many people have stopped buying it. We will all be better off. But that doesn't matter right now.

In less than a decade, Tesla Semi trucks will be hauling goods around and not caring about the price of diesel. And again we will all be better of but it doesn't matter right now.

Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 05:18 PM (57l0O)

47
Californians are asking: "Will they fall that far?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 27, 2022 05:17 PM (RFAn/)

Up... $6.09 yesterday

Posted by: It's me donna at May 27, 2022 05:18 PM (bs+z0)

48
"Angelis" is mort, too.

I think he's some sort of composer.
He did Blade Runner, or something.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 27, 2022 05:18 PM (1mLtq)

49
Sometimes I get really pissy about our politicians selling out to China or the highest bidder. Then I remind myself that my pricetag for electoral cuckage would only be in the million dollar a year category.

So... let's be easy on our 'representatives' m'kay?

They are just as pathetic and easily purchased as me. Once you look at things through that prism you can fully understand what they are.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 27, 2022 05:18 PM (dQvv7)

50 Yesterday for the first time in my life I changed my voter registration from unaffiliated to R just so I can vote against Liz Cheney.

Any ettes or rons going to the rally in Casper tomorrow? I probably won't but still sorta thinking about it.

Posted by: screaming in digital at May 27, 2022 05:18 PM (eNFcH)

51 These damned sticky socks.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 27, 2022 05:18 PM (nByzo)

52 So looking forward to this summer's blackouts, riots, COVID hysteria and other democrat pieces of shit.

Posted by: The Biden Abomination at May 27, 2022 05:18 PM (jV+aN)

53 a big problem for Biden -- and it's not totally his fault -- is that ...


... he's nominally the President, through no fault of his own.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 27, 2022 05:19 PM (RFAn/)

54 Californians are asking: "Will they fall that far?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


Freaking horde mind.

Posted by: Some Rat at May 27, 2022 05:19 PM (r1z5A)

55 Ain't no one gonna do shit

Posted by: Agent #1 (from transcript) at May 27, 2022 05:19 PM (786Ro)

56 Whoa whoa WHOA!

You're calling us hobbits?
I thought we were an Ewok.

I'm so confused

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 27, 2022 05:19 PM (HpljN)

57 K pop has to be the absolute worst "music" I've ever accidentally heard.
Posted by: NCKate at May 27, 2022 05:10 PM (2oJif)


KPop is corporate music developed by one of the most conformist cultures on the planet to try to capture the success of J-Pop.
It can only suck. And suck it does. To a catchy programmed synth beat.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2022 05:19 PM (xhaym)

58 >>>I think people thought they were going to get a centrist in office, you know, a common ground guy.

You see there's your mistake. Biden clearly didn't have enough wattage to expose iso 1600 film, let alone actually set the tone and direction for the Presidency. You should have looked at the puppeteers, like us stupid proles did, in order to predict what a Biden presidency would look like. And the puppeteers are hard left, and that was obvious from the get go.

Posted by: mikethemoose at May 27, 2022 05:19 PM (z/ZJG)

59
We really should revisit that stupid fake graph the Democrats post several months ago showing the fake "steep decline" in gas prices. (It was only a 2-cent drop...temporarily.)

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 27, 2022 05:19 PM (1mLtq)

60 I'm old enough to remember when "Heroin Chic" meant the girl was very, very skinny.

Posted by: Hands at May 27, 2022 05:19 PM (786Ro)

61 Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 05:18 PM (57l0O)

Jackstraw would like to speak to you about that which you have been smoking.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 27, 2022 05:20 PM (nByzo)

62 People traveling by vehicles for the Memorial Day 2022 holiday weekend will

be siphoning off the national reserves. How un-American.

Posted by: Braenyard, still waiting for a good alternative phone at May 27, 2022 05:20 PM (jyW7T)

63 Poor Ace: in the sidebar he mentions Alan White (of Yes) passing, but then link to two songs from Fragile, which was still Bill Bruford's drumming.

i was afraid of something like that
Posted by: ace at May 27, 2022 05:15 PM (AkbRF)

Heh. I wanted to say something, but I like you and don't want to get on your bad side.

Kind of like those radio shows where they talk about greatest guitarists, and someone mentions Randy Rhoads, but then the DJs play a clip with Jake E. Lee.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 27, 2022 05:20 PM (xPJvm)

64 I saw the Schmundie Girls open for Yes

Elmo's Grotto

Milford CT 1971

Posted by: REDACTED at May 27, 2022 05:20 PM (us2H3)

65 Cruz outlining school safety measures. After the schools are secure, the fiends will just prefer other soft targets. I say public death penalty for murderers. Works to protect all targets by deterrence; makes more prison cells available for life sentences for all the stickup artists, home invaders, carjackers, and gangbangers who didn't manage to kill anybody.

Posted by: gp's Dark Energy Acceleration at May 27, 2022 05:20 PM (qpX6U)

66 90125 is a good example of Alan White.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 27, 2022 05:20 PM (xPJvm)

67 The switchover to electric cars is happening fast and everyone will be better off when it's done.
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I think it will be regarded as one of the most massive government-forced fiascos of all time.

It's simply not going to work.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 27, 2022 05:21 PM (sWM8x)

68 What was on Pelosi's stolen laptop?

Posted by: torabora at May 27, 2022 05:21 PM (Y274z)

69 #46.

You're fucking kidding, right? I mean, you're not that fucking stupid are you?

Posted by: Archer at May 27, 2022 05:21 PM (gmo/4)

70 In less than a decade, Tesla Semi trucks will be hauling goods around and not caring about the price of diesel. And again we will all be better of but it doesn't matter right now.
Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 05:18 PM (57l0O)
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Uh ... and where are we going to get all the necessary electricity? Hmmm?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 27, 2022 05:21 PM (RFAn/)

71 >>In less than a decade, Tesla Semi trucks will be hauling goods around and not caring about the price of diesel. And again we will all be better of but it doesn't matter right now.

How will we be better off? Do you think electric vehicles don't have at least as big an environmental impact as combustion vehicles?

Cause you'd be wrong.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 27, 2022 05:21 PM (ZLI7S)

72 YOU WERE AN EWOK. NOT WE

I HATE POSTING FROM MY PHONE

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 27, 2022 05:22 PM (8kQyI)

73 Club for Growth, which opposes Liz Cheney's reelection bid, has a poll showing her way, way down.

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Liz Cheney going down? I don't even want to think about that!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, That's AnonosaurX WrX, hater! at May 27, 2022 05:22 PM (FVME7)

74 @21

>>Traitor, but for a formal declaration of war against Iran.

The thing that makes this even more vicious is that, this is as clear a textbook Logan Act Violation* as can be and remember well, it was The Meat Puppet who came up with the idea to go after Mike Flynn using the Logan Act as cover.


* The Logan Act is probably unconstitutional but the rules are the rules.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 27, 2022 05:22 PM (HVGD2)

75 Target ...blamed higher expenses due to continued supply chain disruptions. Consumers also are holding back on nonessential purchases because of rampant inflation.

Target has a pretty big Infants/Toddlers department. Including things such as diapers, baby food, and (wait for it) formula mixes.

Consumers have to hold back on purchases when THERE'S NOTHING ON THE SHELF TO PURCHASE.

Posted by: Hands at May 27, 2022 05:22 PM (786Ro)

76 The ACLJ has gotten possession through FOIA of a memo establishing that John Kerry was illegally

This is what he does best.
Didn't he do this during Vietnam negotiations?

Posted by: Braenyard, still waiting for a good alternative phone at May 27, 2022 05:22 PM (jyW7T)

77 I guess no one at the White House is competent to analyze black on asian crime, so they are calling in real experts - foreign tweener K-pop stars.

Posted by: West at May 27, 2022 05:22 PM (QY+6a)

78 Remember when Ryan lost to Biden in the debates? Guess Ryan is a complete fucking moron.
Posted by: NCKate


I'm convinced Romney's handlers told Ryan just to play the nice guy, and Ryan just Howdy Doodyied it like a trained seal.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at May 27, 2022 05:22 PM (IEa8U)

79 Ryan really thinks the beltway is the real world, doesn't he?

Of course he probably stays in the beltway because he knows the average American hates his guts.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at May 27, 2022 05:17 PM (ZMYfe)

No. *Especially* in the Beltway, they knew that Biden hadn't been a moderate in decades, just like Ryan knows he himself isn't conservative at all.

Only in the illusion spun by the press was any of that true, certainly not in the sewer of the deep state.

Posted by: Oldcat at May 27, 2022 05:23 PM (eoQWY)

80
Posted by: mr_jack

What's so bad about gasoline?

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 27, 2022 05:23 PM (1mLtq)

81 Good to see Target in the shitter where they belong.

I think George Soros is on the way out. Can't happen fast enough. He probably smells like death already.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 27, 2022 05:23 PM (R/m4+)

82 polls are the only thing Liz is down on

Posted by: REDACTED at May 27, 2022 05:23 PM (us2H3)

83 "Angelis" is mort, too.

I think he's some sort of composer.
He did Blade Runner, or something.
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 27, 2022 05:18 PM (1mLtq)
____________

Also 1492: Conquest of Paradise

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 27, 2022 05:23 PM (RFAn/)

84 shirley he can't be seriousl

Posted by: no 6 at May 27, 2022 05:23 PM (i0Lci)

85 "Cruz outlining school safety measures."

Shoot to wound any AS. Then cuff, throw down a flight of metal fire stairs, cover with gasoline, light on fire, revive, re-light and make s'mores over their burning corpse.

Posted by: Marcus T, Deus Vult at May 27, 2022 05:23 PM (T0jQj)

86 "[L]ook, Joe Biden and I have been friends for years," Ryan outlined.

"We both like sniffing little girls hair. Oh, and their bicycle seats after a hot, sweaty summer ride.
That's the best!

"Then we tweak their nipples! Yeah, Joe and I have a grand old time.

"I'm not really into shitting my pants so far like good ole centric Joe. But, I've tried it a few times and...and, well, I can see why he likes it."

Posted by: Paul Ryan Probably Didn't Say these things, but Hey, who knows? at May 27, 2022 05:23 PM (OK0YZ)

87
How will we be better off? Do you think electric vehicles don't have at least as big an environmental impact as combustion vehicles?

Worse those batteries are like crypto mite when they have to be disposed of not to mention the possibility of spontaneously exploding

Posted by: It's me donna at May 27, 2022 05:23 PM (bs+z0)

88 and yeah i only know Yes from the radio

and mtv in the early days

Posted by: ace at May 27, 2022 05:24 PM (AkbRF)

89 "Angelis" is mort, too.

I think he's some sort of composer.
He did Blade Runner, or something.
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 27, 2022 05:18 PM (1mLtq)



Vangelis? Dude's been dead ten days now.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at May 27, 2022 05:24 PM (ZSK0i)

90 can't remeber but I think I saw Yes open for Tull

Posted by: REDACTED at May 27, 2022 05:25 PM (us2H3)

91 >The switchover to electric cars is happening fast and everyone will be better off when it's done

LOL, you're wrong
--The math on electrical capacity

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at May 27, 2022 05:25 PM (CSE/0)

92 In less than a decade, Tesla Semi trucks will be hauling goods around and not caring about the price of diesel.
Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 05:18 PM (57l0O)

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Robert at May 27, 2022 05:25 PM (1Yy3c)

93 ""Angelis" is mort, too. I think he's some sort of composer."

Careful, there's a serious Vangelis fan here. (Not me.)

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at May 27, 2022 05:25 PM (qpX6U)

94 GLSEN... yes, glisten, shine them up brightly.

Posted by: Braenyard, still waiting for a good alternative phone at May 27, 2022 05:25 PM (jyW7T)

95 >>>Worse those batteries are like crypto mite when they have to be disposed of not to mention the possibility of spontaneously exploding

Posted by: It's me donna at May 27, 2022 05:23 PM (bs+z0)

Well, not necessarily "spontaneously".

Posted by: Richard Hammond at May 27, 2022 05:25 PM (QYPq3)

96
"Angelis" is mort, too.

I think he's some sort of composer.
He did Blade Runner, or something.
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 27, 2022 05:18 PM (1mLtq)


Vangelis? Dude's been dead ten days now.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent



My internet connection is really slow.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 27, 2022 05:26 PM (1mLtq)

97 PDT made Ryan and his "economic plans" look like the fool he was.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 27, 2022 05:26 PM (EjlyM)

98 It's a madhouse! Simply a madhouse!!!!!!

Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas - Ace of Spades Ladies' Brigade, Plucky Comic Relief at May 27, 2022 05:26 PM (SRRAx)

99
In less than a decade, the price of gas is going to be falling because so many people have stopped buying it. We will all be better off. But that doesn't matter right now.

In less than a decade, Tesla Semi trucks will be hauling goods around and not caring about the price of diesel. And again we will all be better of but it doesn't matter right now.
Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 05:18 PM (57l0O)
====
Wow!! Whatever you're smoking, I'll have some of that.

Posted by: Florida Peasant at May 27, 2022 05:26 PM (dr4Q1)

100 "[L]ook, Joe Biden and I have been friends for years," Ryan outlined. "I think people thought they were going to get a centrist in office, you know, a common ground guy."

-
I hate to break it to you, Paul, but also there is no Easter Bunny and there is no Santa Claus.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, That's AnonosaurX WrX, hater! at May 27, 2022 05:26 PM (FVME7)

101 No Yellow!

Posted by: First Son at May 27, 2022 05:26 PM (PIlQh)

102

I think mr jack is yanking our chains.

Posted by: four seasons at May 27, 2022 05:26 PM (PisyI)

103 Alan White on Gates of Delirium. By far one of the best.

Posted by: Marcus T, Deus Vult at May 27, 2022 05:26 PM (T0jQj)

104 But the Generals were due!

Posted by: Krusty the Clown at May 27, 2022 05:26 PM (zcPgo)

105 Anyone who was a friend of Biden's and not just a congenial acquaintance has the worst judgement in the world.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 27, 2022 05:26 PM (U3akT)

106 Looks like Paul Ryan oversold Joe Biden.

Posted by: Hands at May 27, 2022 05:27 PM (786Ro)

107 why would ryan think joe would be centrist? biden has always been as nasty as he could be about whatever the current left wing thing was.

Posted by: x at May 27, 2022 05:27 PM (uQFwj)

108 Quick quiz


School boards and districts have been focused on:

1. School safety!

2. CRT and Trannyism

Posted by: I guess I'll ask them at May 27, 2022 05:27 PM (tzJsQ)

109 I saw the pictue about heroin, and immediately thought of Keith Richards.

Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2022 05:27 PM (Vr12I)

110 How will we be better off? Do you think electric vehicles don't have at least as big an environmental impact as combustion vehicles?

Worse those batteries are like crypto mite when they have to be disposed of not to mention the possibility of spontaneously exploding
Posted by: It's me donna at May 27, 2022 05:23 PM (bs+z0)
______________

The problem is that at this stage people only the upside, and don't think of the downsides. See, e.g., wind turbines, mirrored solar collectors, letting 18 year olds vote, ... etc.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 27, 2022 05:27 PM (RFAn/)

111 >>>97 PDT made Ryan and his "economic plans" look like the fool he was.

Joe Biden made Ryan look like a fool. It's not that hard, it turns out.

Posted by: ace at May 27, 2022 05:28 PM (AkbRF)

112 >>>Looks like Paul Ryan oversold Joe Biden.

Posted by: Hands at May 27, 2022 05:27 PM (786Ro)

On purpose.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at May 27, 2022 05:28 PM (QYPq3)

113 Lt. Gov Robinson speaking at NRA.

Posted by: Infidel at May 27, 2022 05:28 PM (E0NVW)

114 Worse those batteries are like crypto mite when they have to be disposed of not to mention the possibility of spontaneously exploding
Posted by: It's me donna


Seems I read somewhere it will require something like 14 TONS of battery to make the same amount of power a diesel engine produces. That comes right off the top of how much freight can be hauled.

Posted by: Some Rat at May 27, 2022 05:28 PM (r1z5A)

115 Rupaul > Aaron Rupar

Posted by: Hands at May 27, 2022 05:28 PM (786Ro)

116 90125 is a good example of Alan White.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 27, 2022 05:20 PM (xPJvm)

Excellent road album.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 27, 2022 05:28 PM (nByzo)

117 In less than a decade, Tesla Semi trucks will be hauling goods around and not caring about the price of diesel.
Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 05:18 PM (57l0O)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Robert at May 27, 2022 05:25 PM (1Yy3c)

You know what is best for hauling around large amounts of goods?

Trains.

Posted by: Strelnikov at May 27, 2022 05:28 PM (R/m4+)

118
Don't fall for paul ryan's 'aw shucks' jive.

paul ryan is a rotten cocksucker, but he's not naive.

He's just spewing bullshit for some political purpose.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 27, 2022 05:28 PM (1mLtq)

119 >>Worse those batteries are like crypto mite when they have to be disposed of not to mention the possibility of spontaneously exploding

Every couple week Tesla delivers a few factory seconds, cars that can't be sold because of some sort of manufacturing defect, to the Freemont, CA fire department. They are constantly experimenting on them to try and find the best way to extinguish the batteries. Freemont has become the defacto expert on electric vehicle fires.

A single electric vehicle can take up to 40,000 gallons of water to fully extinguish. That's not a typo.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 27, 2022 05:29 PM (ZLI7S)

120 "The problem is that at this stage people"

Problem is majority of Americans are both innumerate and STEM-ignorant.

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at May 27, 2022 05:29 PM (qpX6U)

121 A little secret we 29+ folks keep to ourselves... it's not the stick that's hard to operate, it's the clutch and gas pedals! Mum's the word!

Ps. You haven't lived until you've flown a REAL airplane, one with a stick! Only three rules:
1. When you push the stick forward, the houses get bigger.
2. When you pull the stick back, the houses get smaller.
3. This is the tricky one... if you pull the stick back too far, the houses start to get bigger again, real fast!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 27, 2022 05:29 PM (4OVxK)

122 Abbot I was misled! Please re-elect me! Beto is a tranny commie!

Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at May 27, 2022 05:29 PM (D4TOz)

123 Let's not forget Joe Biden's home defense tip: Blast a couple of rounds from your shotgun through the door if you hear something on the other side.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 27, 2022 05:29 PM (Zf0+a)

124 >>>The switchover to electric cars is happening fast and everyone will be better off when it's done

I will NOT be better off when spending a week camping is an impossibility due to the limitations of my vehicle. I will not be better off when driving state to state with my family if it requires me to stop every 200 miles for half an hour and that's with a special built charger.

Urbanized folks only see things from an urban lens. Electric cars are going to MHGA (Make Horses Great Again) here in the west.

Posted by: mikethemoose at May 27, 2022 05:29 PM (z/ZJG)

125 The emptiest place in town here are the charging stations.

Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2022 05:29 PM (Vr12I)

126 Age of majority can be raised to 21. Same for voting.
But problem with drafting then too.

Posted by: torabora at May 27, 2022 05:29 PM (Y274z)

127 You've got a friend in Joe!

Posted by: Paul Ryan (Rino, WI) at May 27, 2022 05:29 PM (786Ro)

128 All the middle- age men on Twitter that Ace links to seem to like Korean boy bands

Posted by: 18-1 at May 27, 2022 05:30 PM (ESjRY)

129 @Peoples_Pundit (Richard Baris) has a clip from the WEF where one guy basically admits that the income inequality gap was closing under Trump so he had to go and that they (the elites) were able to use fear to control the plebes.

Fcking bastards don't even try to hide it anymore because they know the media they own will not report it.

Posted by: Ultra MAGA Venus at May 27, 2022 05:30 PM (YVBLw)

130 What are the odds that a group composed entirely of flaming homosexual paedeopheales would just so happen to make an acronym that is pronounced "glisten"?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 05:30 PM (EEjVl)

131 When we have no customers our carbon footprint is zero.

Posted by: Charging Stations at May 27, 2022 05:31 PM (Y274z)

132 Aaron Rupar: "...instead of proactively talking about good things he's doing."

Really? Don't you think if Biden had done something good or positive, he might mention it? Like 24/7 and force - at gunpoint - the reticent and wholly objective MFM to cover this great news? You're telling us that Biden is holding back on mentioning the good because he needs to get to the bad first because it is the responsible, self-sacrificing thing to do?

Now that I think about it - really chew down to the bone - I still find that you're a lying sack of sh*t.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at May 27, 2022 05:31 PM (aXxgO)

133 I always thought it was mamas come out of the sky and they stand there

Posted by: x at May 27, 2022 05:31 PM (uQFwj)

134 I assume the "AR-15 Nazi rifle" dick is either confusing the AK-47 ripped off of the Sturm-44 by the Soviets with the M-16; or the AR-15 has a similar loading system to the Sturm-44.

BTW, does that mean his Soviet buddies are responsible for every murder in the U.S. committed with a semi-only AK ripoff??

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at May 27, 2022 05:31 PM (yikp0)

135
I think Alan White was on the first Yes Album which had "All Good People" on it.
Posted by: Oldcat at May 27, 2022 05:17 PM (eoQWY)

That was, by far, their best album. Same for the Zep. First album was their best.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at May 27, 2022 05:31 PM (Qhnrt)

136 Age of majority can be raised to 21. Same for voting.
But problem with drafting then too.

Posted by: torabora at May 27, 2022 05:29 PM


No problem, you do what the Germans did towards the end of WWII, you ignore the draft laws and scoop up kids as young as 10-12 to fight. Easy peasy!

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at May 27, 2022 05:31 PM (bVYXr)

137 127 You've got a friend in Joe!
Posted by: Paul Ryan (Rino, WI) at May 27, 2022 05:29 PM (786Ro)

And Paul is related by marriage to that train wreck of a SCOTUS new Justice Jumanji brown

Posted by: It's me donna at May 27, 2022 05:31 PM (bs+z0)

138 Trains.
Posted by: Strelnikov


20 mule team borax wagons for the win!

Posted by: Some Rat at May 27, 2022 05:31 PM (r1z5A)

139 The switchover to electric cars is happening fast and everyone will be better off when it's done

**

We're up to 4% of total sales in ideal locations with the most required new car sale legislation!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 05:31 PM (EEjVl)

140 Biden to host K-Pop sensation BTS at White House to discuss Asian Representation and anti-Asian crime.


Never ceases. Politicians bringing in celebs to sell a policy to the LIVs.

Posted by: Hands at May 27, 2022 05:31 PM (786Ro)

141 Paul Ryan is angling to be President.
Just like Manchin is doing.

Posted by: torabora at May 27, 2022 05:32 PM (Y274z)

142 OT: Swamp cooler help. Trying to set up thermostat and I can't figure out all the abbreviations. One is "HAnd". Another is "A lr C". I suspect the pump is not turned on.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, That's AnonosaurX WrX, hater! at May 27, 2022 05:32 PM (FVME7)

143
Yes, tell me how "we'll all be better off" in a few years after we just 60 fucking thousand dollars for our cars??

You have idiots out there buying $80K pickup trucks by the millions.

I don't think they'll be happy when gasoline is no longer available.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 27, 2022 05:32 PM (1mLtq)

144 It sure is looking a lot less tinhatty that there is actually a group controlling world affairs and most of the crap they spew is just for camouflage.

It seems it would be more tinhatty not to believe it.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 27, 2022 05:32 PM (8GBH4)

145 139 The switchover to electric cars is happening fast and everyone will be better off when it's done

**

We're up to 4% of total sales in ideal locations with the most required new car sale legislation!
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 05:31 PM (EEjVl)

Make sure not to charge your car though. It stresses the grid.
-California

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 27, 2022 05:33 PM (b2nrj)

146 Will they talk about the actual problem of anti-Asian violence or the Democrat/media version of it? That's not a real question.

Damn those Trump supporters for assaulting Asians!

Posted by: The Media! at May 27, 2022 05:33 PM (I2/tG)

147 Trains.
Posted by: Strelniko



helped position Kamala for success

Posted by: Hands at May 27, 2022 05:33 PM (786Ro)

148 And for anonosaurus wrecks

Hand, auto, left, right, center? Would that correspond with anything?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 05:33 PM (EEjVl)

149 Why hasn't Paul Ryan's tongue been removed so he can't speak or do the tongue kiss?

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 27, 2022 05:33 PM (EslYr)

150 "97 PDT made Ryan and his "economic plans" look like the fool he was.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 27, 2022 05:26 PM (EjlyM) "

they're all hoping we've forgotten that by now.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - grateful for WWV ! at May 27, 2022 05:34 PM (+o2yA)

151 OT: Swamp cooler help. Trying to set up thermostat and I can't figure out all the abbreviations. One is "HAnd". Another is "A lr C". I suspect the pump is not turned on.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, That's AnonosaurX WrX, hater! at May 27, 2022 05:32 PM (FVME7)

I don't have any specific help but to say that, when setting up our thermostat, I had to google schematics, take paper notes, and verify the wiring.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 27, 2022 05:34 PM (nByzo)

152 I get the feeling some of you don't want to pay $60,000 for a subcompact that will allow you to travel 100-150 miles.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 05:34 PM (EEjVl)

153 Sorry Anon Wrecks, mine is simple and old fashioned. Pump, hi cool, lo cool, hi vent lo vent.

Posted by: Infidel at May 27, 2022 05:34 PM (E0NVW)

154 Yes/Alan White Gates Of Delirium

https://youtu.be/fQ-ktGaWYlg

Posted by: Marcus T, Deus Vult at May 27, 2022 05:35 PM (T0jQj)

155 Thought Asians were white-centric.
Wouldn't that make them neoNazis?

Posted by: Braenyard, still waiting for a good alternative phone at May 27, 2022 05:35 PM (jyW7T)

156 Hey Paul Ryan

Joe Biden, the dumbest senator ever, kicked your ass in the debates.

Sarah Palin kicked his ass.

So who is the dumbest sunuvbeech out there?

Go do the right thing and commit hari Kari

Posted by: Dr StrangeCat at May 27, 2022 05:35 PM (eWAsb)

157 #130

What are we? Chopped liver?

Posted by: ABBA at May 27, 2022 05:35 PM (Y274z)

158 "Emmerson has Biden's approval falling to 38%..."

I continue to ask myself how are his numbers so incalculably high? Is Dominion Voting Systems running their algorithms?

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at May 27, 2022 05:35 PM (aXxgO)

159 Nevermind, I didn't notice the thermostat part.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 05:35 PM (EEjVl)

160 Biden to host K-Pop sensation BTS at White House to discuss Asian Representation and anti-Asian crime.

Hope Biden brings a file card to remind him who BTS is.

Biden is a huge, huge fan of BTS! Truly!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 27, 2022 05:35 PM (I2/tG)

161 Not sure A Wrecks, mine just says fan and fan plus pump.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 27, 2022 05:35 PM (8GBH4)

162 129 @Peoples_Pundit (Richard Baris) has a clip from the WEF where one guy basically admits that the income inequality gap was closing under Trump so he had to go and that they (the elites) were able to use fear to control the plebes.

Fcking bastards don't even try to hide it anymore because they know the media they own will not report it.
Posted by: Ultra MAGA Venus at May 27, 2022 05:30 PM (YVBLw

Fear was the fault of the people who believed the horseshit.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at May 27, 2022 05:35 PM (Qhnrt)

163 Really? Don't you think if Biden had done something good or positive, he might mention it? Like 24/7 and force - at gunpoint - the reticent and wholly objective MFM to cover this great news? You're telling us that Biden is holding back on mentioning the good because he needs to get to the bad first because it is the responsible, self-sacrificing thing to do?
___________

Yep. He's like the Chocolate Jesus. If his academic record hadn't sucked donkey balls, he'd have copies of his transcript placed under every windshield wiper in America.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 27, 2022 05:35 PM (RFAn/)

164 Pump more oil. Build refineries. Make more gas and diesel. My solutions are too simple I guess.

Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2022 05:36 PM (Vr12I)

165 125 The emptiest place in town here are the charging stations.
Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2022 05:29 PM (Vr12I)

Twitter ban in progress. Eleventy!

Posted by: Holy Crap at May 27, 2022 05:36 PM (glGDV)

166 We can't pay our $60,000 student loans!

We want $60,000 subcompact cars with four year lifespans!

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 05:36 PM (EEjVl)

167 "161 Not sure A Wrecks, mine just says fan and fan plus pump."

Mine says "change batt."

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at May 27, 2022 05:36 PM (qpX6U)

168 Per WZ: mother of Uvalde shooter- “I know he had his reasons.”

Sick crackhead bitch.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 27, 2022 05:36 PM (Z7XJd)

169 Hope Biden brings a file card to remind him who BTS is.
___________

BTS?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 27, 2022 05:36 PM (RFAn/)

170 Without nuclear power, EVs are gonna become the world's largest paperweights.

And gasoline is gonna look cheap compared to the costs and limitations of "filling" your battery.

There's no infrastructure for EVs, retards.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 27, 2022 05:36 PM (OK0YZ)

171 the Capitol had the right idea with the avoxes, but you know it recquires some additional ash type treatment, do not add chainsaw,

Posted by: no 6 at May 27, 2022 05:36 PM (i0Lci)

172 I bet Biden and Paul Ryan were both on Epstein Island

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 27, 2022 05:37 PM (kf6Ak)

173
It's hard to call it a "shadow government," when it operates in the open. It's not as if they hid who was running the country when Trump was in the WH, or when any bill gets written for like 40 years now.

Posted by: @TheRealWilliamHayes at May 27, 2022 05:37 PM (FIJ+3)

174
the "carbon tax" is coming

to "save" the "planet"

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 27, 2022 05:37 PM (1mLtq)

175 One of Beatoff O'Cuck's groupies actually compared his "bravery" to the guy who stood in front of the tank at Tianmen Square.


https://twitter.com/VHSch/status/ 1529690708768169985

(remove space)

I mean, I've seen some dumb Twatter users ("Twats?"), but this may be the all-time champion.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 27, 2022 05:37 PM (bW8dp)

176 125 The emptiest place in town here are the charging stations.
Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2022 05:29 PM (Vr12I)
____________

We could always use them to execute murderers.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 27, 2022 05:37 PM (RFAn/)

177 Okay, in fairness to Ace, he probably linked to the live version(s) from YesSongs, which was Alan White playing (Bruford stomped out after Tales From Topographic Oceans because Anderson was a fucking pretentious twat with 45 minute songs and other shit like that, so completely understood there). And I'm not saying White was bad (and yeah, he definitely came into his own later), but that's like comparing Stewart Copeland and Buddy Rich.

Posted by: normal at May 27, 2022 05:37 PM (obo9H)

178 John Kerry was illegally conducting foreign policy with Iran behind Trump's back


pompous phony two-faced gold-digger commie blockhead

Posted by: Hands at May 27, 2022 05:37 PM (786Ro)

179 Biden meeting with BTS is the cringe "Hello, fellow young people" move by a potus ever.

Yiiiiiikes

Posted by: Lizzy's phone at May 27, 2022 05:37 PM (+UAeM)

180 What's really cool about electric cars is that after about a thousand plug ins their range drops precipitously and you're going to have to turn the A/C off in heavy traffic or you're not making it home.

Posted by: torabora at May 27, 2022 05:38 PM (Y274z)

181 152 I get the feeling some of you don't want to pay $60,000 for a subcompact that will allow you to travel 100-150 miles.

Posted by: Moron Robbie
------------------

Started with a F150 then moved down to a Santa Fe, now [if Vanguard gets my money back] it will be a Civic - if I can get in and out of it.

Posted by: Braenyard, still waiting for a good alternative phone at May 27, 2022 05:38 PM (jyW7T)

182 ABBA are the sirens of the apocalypse, change my mind,

Posted by: no 6 at May 27, 2022 05:38 PM (i0Lci)

183 BTS?

K-Pop group. Biden is a huge, huge, fan.

LOL.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 27, 2022 05:38 PM (I2/tG)

184 >>>the "carbon tax" is coming

to "save" the "planet"

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 27, 2022 05:37 PM (1mLtq)

It will be paid in lead.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at May 27, 2022 05:39 PM (QYPq3)

185 the "carbon tax" is coming

to "save" the "planet"
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 27, 2022 05:37 PM (1mLtq)
___________

And to provide more cash for the politicians.

CA had a rebate program for the deposit on plastic bottles, etc. Then they closed all of the rebate facilities, and just kept the deposit.

Are you trying to act surprised?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 27, 2022 05:39 PM (RFAn/)

186 #178
So Logan Act triggered?

Posted by: torabora at May 27, 2022 05:39 PM (Y274z)

187 Paul Ryan has always been a hack. “Look at my plan to bend the deficit curve down by 1% over the next 45 years…im a serious thinker!!!”

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at May 27, 2022 05:39 PM (T6NRc)

188 " The emptiest place in town here are the charging stations."

Do they dispense for free, or do you have to stick in a debit card or something? If free, hell, I'll haul all my batteries over there and get a free charge. Saw one in our public park; looked free to me.

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at May 27, 2022 05:39 PM (qpX6U)

189 Anyone know anything about graphene batteries? Are they truly a game changer or more vaporware?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at May 27, 2022 05:39 PM (ZMYfe)

190 Watch. Brandon will speak with a slight Asian accent.

Posted by: Marcus T, Deus Vult at May 27, 2022 05:39 PM (T0jQj)

191 Where I live, electric cars are an absurdity that no one considers.

Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2022 05:39 PM (Vr12I)

192 BTS?

K-Pop group. Biden is a huge, huge, fan.

LOL.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 27, 2022 05:38 PM (I2/tG)
_____________

"How do you spell 'BTS?'" - F. Joe Biden

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 27, 2022 05:40 PM (RFAn/)

193 "...instead of proactively talking about good things he's doing."

-
And those would be . . . ?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, That's AnonosaurX WrX, hater! at May 27, 2022 05:40 PM (FVME7)

194 It took 3 full days for the battery that the GRAND TOUR crashed to finally burn out.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 27, 2022 05:40 PM (dKiJG)

195 No! We don't suck cock! Unfair

Posted by: Nickleback at May 27, 2022 05:40 PM (Y274z)

196 190 Watch. Brandon will speak with a slight Asian accent.
Posted by: Marcus T, Deus Vult at May 27, 2022 05:39 PM (T0jQj)
__________________

From his plastic surgery he's beginning to look kinda Asiany.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 27, 2022 05:40 PM (RFAn/)

197 "How do you spell 'BTS?'" - F. Joe Biden

Someone should ask Biden to name his three favorite BTS songs.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 27, 2022 05:41 PM (I2/tG)

198 I was just reading an article on a pro-EV site about how the increases in electricity costs are going to hurt EV ownership.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 05:41 PM (EEjVl)

199 Paul Ryan has always been a hack. “Look at my plan to bend the deficit curve down by 1% over the next 45 years…im a serious thinker!!!”
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at May 27, 2022 05:39 PM (T6NRc)

I remember that....what a bunch of BS. I wonder what he did with all that paper he had stacked up at that dog and pony show.

The man is a menace.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 27, 2022 05:41 PM (R/m4+)

200 Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 05:18 PM (57l0O)

If everyone owned an electric car the grid would fry and we would have brownouts and blackouts .
Try evacuating when it's hurricane season and you have an electric car.
If your car dies on the freeway good luck getting it off the freeway to find a charging station and then wait over an hour to charge. It takes 5 mins to fill it up with gas.
I live in Texas and just bought another gas powered vehicle, because electric cars are impractical and I want to keep my electric bill down.
Where do you think electricity comes from?
Where do you think the batteries come from and where do they go when you dispose of them?

Posted by: redridinghood at May 27, 2022 05:41 PM (NpAcC)

201 I'll drive this diesel truck until there is nothing left of it and then I will ride my horse.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 27, 2022 05:41 PM (EjlyM)

202 193 "...instead of proactively talking about good things he's doing."

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And those would be . . . ?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, That's AnonosaurX WrX, hater! at May 27, 2022 05:40 PM (FVME7)

Long on virtue signaling, short on detail.

Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2022 05:41 PM (Vr12I)

203 We can't pay our $60,000 student loans!

We want $60,000 subcompact cars with four year lifespans!
Posted by: Moron Robbie



Speaking of loans:

@ElectionWiz
6h
BREAKING: As soon as this weekend, President Biden could announce a plan to cancel $10,000 in student debt per borrower, according to WaPo, citing three people with knowledge of the matter.
May 27, 2022

Posted by: Hands at May 27, 2022 05:41 PM (786Ro)

204 Of course John Kerry was illegally talking to Iran. We knew that. There were photos of him sitting at a dinner table with Iranian negotiators in France.

But he and the Dems just decided that the bold faced lie was the way to go. Because they knew it would work. And it did. Kerry faces no Logan Act jeopardy.

Posted by: blaster at May 27, 2022 05:41 PM (9otr5)

205 >>>Where I live, electric cars are an absurdity that no one considers.

Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2022 05:39 PM (Vr12I)

Atlantis?

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at May 27, 2022 05:41 PM (QYPq3)

206 I was just reading an article on a pro-EV site about how the increases in electricity costs are going to hurt EV ownership.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 05:41 PM (EEjVl)

lolgf

Now THAT'S funny.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 27, 2022 05:41 PM (nByzo)

207 It seems if I work zt a office complex with I am thinking free ( unless somehow a ID your a employee) electric hookup are almost always used.

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2022 05:41 PM (2JoB8)

208 "Anyone know anything about graphene batteries?"

#1's have softer lead than #4's, so they smudge easily.

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at May 27, 2022 05:41 PM (qpX6U)

209 From his plastic surgery he's beginning to look kinda Asiany.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 27, 2022 05:40 PM (RFAn/)
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Joe looks sorta melted, to me.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at May 27, 2022 05:42 PM (ZMYfe)

210 Where I live, electric cars are an absurdity that no one considers.
*

You literally just described the entire United States.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 05:42 PM (EEjVl)

211 193 "...instead of proactively talking about good things he's doing."

-
And those would be . . . ?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, That's AnonosaurX WrX, hater! at May 27, 2022 05:40 PM (FVME7)
____________

Appointing black women to ... well ... almost everything.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 27, 2022 05:42 PM (RFAn/)

212 RIP, litttle ones.

https://tinyurl.com/4zf767r2

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 27, 2022 05:42 PM (EfFOe)

213 Prices vary. But they track gas cost. You don't think we're in business to lose profits do you?

Posted by: Charging Stations at May 27, 2022 05:42 PM (Y274z)

214 @70

>>There's no infrastructure for EVs, retards.

Here's the thing, and it's the most galling thing, this push to EV and "renewables," is all based on a gigantic lie and fraud.

1. They have never proven that atmospheric concentrations of CO2 cause "CLIMATE CHANGE."

2. Atmospheric CO2 comprises 0.04 pct of the atmosphere.

3. Humans contribution to atmospheric CO2 is 0.00016 pct or said another way, 99.6 pct of the CO2 in the atmosphere are from natural sources and the "CARBON CYCLE."

4. THIS IS BULLSHIT.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 27, 2022 05:42 PM (HVGD2)

215 Are you ready for Pence/Ryan 24?


Posted by: I've got bad news for you at May 27, 2022 05:42 PM (nqDDI)

216 Newest "pronoun": "paint/paintself". This is apparently a guy with a fetish for anime characters.

Back in my day, we just called those guys "those dudes who get their heads stuffed into toilets a lot", but I guess that WAS a little lengthy.

(note: not dissing anime as a whole, just those who are FUCKING OBSESSED with it).


Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 27, 2022 05:43 PM (bW8dp)

217 >>>It took 3 full days for the battery that the GRAND TOUR crashed to finally burn out.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 27, 2022 05:40 PM (dKiJG)

5 days.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at May 27, 2022 05:43 PM (QYPq3)

218 Where I live, electric cars are an absurdity that no one considers.

Just don't live in a place where it ever goes below freezing, and you'll be just fine.

Don't ask stupid questions, like: "What is the range of an EV in Wisconsin in the winter?"

Posted by: EV Salesman! at May 27, 2022 05:43 PM (I2/tG)

219 BREAKING: As soon as this weekend, President Biden could announce a plan to cancel $10,000 in student debt per borrower,

**

Setting aside the fact that he doesn't have the power to do that (he'll do it anyway and Republicans and the SCOTUS won't say sh*t), the debt isn't "canceled." The debt is taken on by the U.S. government.

You know. Inflation.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 05:43 PM (EEjVl)

220 Where do you think electricity comes from?
Where do you think the batteries come from and where do they go when you dispose of them?
Posted by: redridinghood at May 27, 2022 05:41 PM (NpAcC)

1) the wall
2) a Nigerian landfill.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 27, 2022 05:43 PM (Z7XJd)

221 @ElectionWiz
6h
BREAKING: As soon as this weekend, President Biden could announce a plan to cancel $10,000 in student debt per borrower, according to WaPo, citing three people with knowledge of the matter.
May 27, 2022
Posted by: Hands at May 27, 2022 05:41 PM (786Ro)
_____________

Great. Just great. Put it on my tax tab.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 27, 2022 05:43 PM (RFAn/)

222 And where are all those new power plants to power your electric dreams?

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at May 27, 2022 05:43 PM (YynYJ)

223 Has any independent ever caucused with Republicans?

Nope.

I don't get the attraction of that particular gaslighting. I mean Bernie Sanders changes his party to Democrat to run for President and flips back right after. Dems know he isn't independent. Who is he actually fooling?

Posted by: blaster at May 27, 2022 05:44 PM (9otr5)

224 All the middle- age men on Twitter that Ace links to seem to like Korean boy bands
Posted by: 18-1 at May 27, 2022 05:30 PM

Come on, man...he has to throw garrett a bone.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 27, 2022 05:44 PM (RkC6l)

225 " President Biden could announce a plan to cancel $10,000 in student debt per borrower"

Which will be tied up in court until, coincidently enough, the mid-term elections. When it will be thrown out so hard it will bounce.

I mean, this isn't rocket surgery.

Posted by: William F. "Buck" Dharma at May 27, 2022 05:44 PM (oedLL)

226 182 ABBA are the sirens of the apocalypse, change my mind,
Posted by: no 6
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Didn't G Gordon Liddy always say they were the greatest band ever?

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at May 27, 2022 05:44 PM (es0Dj)

227 RIP, litttle ones.

https://tinyurl.com/4zf767r2

Posted by: SMH
*

Ugh. Thanks SMH

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 05:44 PM (EEjVl)

228 Pence/Ryan on the gop ticket means democrats remain in the white house. I will not vote for that ticket.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at May 27, 2022 05:44 PM (ZMYfe)

229 Come on, man...he has to throw garrett a bone.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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Heh.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 27, 2022 05:44 PM (EfFOe)

230 Just don't live in a place where it ever goes below freezing, and you'll be just fine.

Don't ask stupid questions, like: "What is the range of an EV in Wisconsin in the winter?"

Posted by: EV Salesman! at May 27, 2022 05:43 PM (I2/tG)
____________

That, and don't run the AC in summer. If you do, God knows how far you'll actually get. The specs may say "X miles" but that's under perfect conditions. Which does not include cold or hot weather.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 27, 2022 05:45 PM (RFAn/)

231 >>>Try evacuating when it's hurricane season and you have an electric car.
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Trick is to get into your diesel powered boat and head in the opposite direction. Preferably the casino dock.

Posted by: Braenyard, still waiting for a good alternative phone at May 27, 2022 05:45 PM (jyW7T)

232 > The debt is taken on by the U.S. government.


It's already been taken on by the U.S. government.

Barky, PissLousy, and Hairy Reid did that a decade ago, while no one was looking.

The banksters paid in full, and the risk of default got offloaded to the public.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 27, 2022 05:45 PM (bW8dp)

233 @174

>>the "carbon tax" is coming


Well yeah, with fueling going away so goes the taxes collected at every step of the way of the petroleum chain.

It's not like they would ever give up that tax windfall.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 27, 2022 05:45 PM (HVGD2)

234 190 Watch. Brandon will speak with a slight Asian accent.
Posted by: Marcus T, Deus Vult at May 27, 2022 05:39 PM (T0jQj

I be heah foah houah. I go now.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at May 27, 2022 05:45 PM (Qhnrt)

235 >>>
You know what is best for hauling around large amounts of goods?

Trains.
Posted by: Strelnikov at May 27, 2022 05:28 PM (R/m4+)


I think new modern design blimps would be best but no one has saw it through from concept to implementation.

Posted by: banana Dream, now 40% less explicit at May 27, 2022 05:45 PM (0fVbu)

236 Paul Ryan got the okey doke from Biden in a nationally televised debate and that doofus made Ryan look stupid. But here he is oh we thought he was a centrist.

Really? You have to try to be that dumb

Posted by: blaster at May 27, 2022 05:45 PM (9otr5)

237 "Independent" is a political metaphor for cock curious.

Posted by: Marcus T, Deus Vult at May 27, 2022 05:46 PM (T0jQj)

238 If Musk was really the genius he is supposed to be he would be advocating for nuclear power plants.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 27, 2022 05:46 PM (U3akT)

239 RIP, litttle ones.

https://tinyurl.com/4zf767r2

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 27, 2022 05:42 PM (EfFOe)

Gotta go hug the little.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 27, 2022 05:46 PM (nByzo)

240 Goodness gracious, look at little Rojelio in the bottom right corner.

And those cops - and federal agents - stood there to let them die.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 05:46 PM (EEjVl)

241 Finally home. In the basement while the two youngest eat french fries and generally cause controlled mayhem.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Up in arms like Minutemen at May 27, 2022 05:46 PM (YglAn)

242 >> It took 3 full days for the battery that the GRAND TOUR crashed to finally burn out.

The single biggest issue fire departments around the world are dealing with right now is how to deal with ESS, electric storage systems. Basically containers full of lithium batteries.

People don't even realize it but they are popping up everywhere with very poor regulation and they are a nightmare to extinguish. And when they burn they off gas very toxic smoke and even when they are finally extinguished what is left is an environmental mess.

But green.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 27, 2022 05:46 PM (ZLI7S)

243 Tesla delivers a few factory seconds,

A 9 second ride would be fun.
Have to be <50 miles from the track though.

Posted by: DaveA at May 27, 2022 05:46 PM (FhXTo)

244 That, and don't run the AC in summer. If you do, God knows how far you'll actually get. The specs may say "X miles" but that's under perfect conditions. Which does not include cold or hot weather.

Being able to run the car heater in the wintertime is overrated.

Just dress warmly!

Posted by: EV Salesman! at May 27, 2022 05:46 PM (I2/tG)

245 Try evacuating when it's hurricane season and you have an electric car.
_______________

Try evacuating a wildfire area several days after the power company cut power to the area.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 27, 2022 05:46 PM (RFAn/)

246 Blimps got nothing on trains. I saw a train with double stack containers in Texas that was about two miles long. That's a LOT of cargo.

Posted by: blaster at May 27, 2022 05:46 PM (9otr5)

247 angling to be President.
Just like Manchin is doing.
Posted by: torabora at May 27, 2022 05:32 PM (Y274z)



???
And what party is he running in?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 27, 2022 05:47 PM (Irn0L)

248 > If Musk was really the genius he is supposed to be he would be advocating for nuclear power plants.

He is, in fact, in favor of nuclear power plants, and has been for as long as I can remember.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 27, 2022 05:47 PM (bW8dp)

249
Anthropogenic Climate Change is bullshit.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 27, 2022 05:09 PM (HVGD2)

__________

It's not the Sun, it's mankind
Well, not all mankind, just Western countries
Well, not all Western countries, just the US
Well, not all the US, just the Republicans

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 27, 2022 05:47 PM (/U27+)

250 Finally home. In the basement while the two youngest eat french fries and generally cause controlled mayhem.
Posted by: thathalfrican

*

Ah, I see you're mastering fatherhood.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 05:47 PM (EEjVl)

251 241 Finally home. In the basement while the two youngest eat french fries and generally cause controlled mayhem.
Posted by: thathalfrican - Up in arms like Minutemen at May 27, 2022 05:46 PM (YglAn)

Hey. As per yesterday, you gonna go for the new job thing?

Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2022 05:47 PM (Vr12I)

252 By the way. I'm suspect the Hammond electric car crash was at least partly a problem with the car.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at May 27, 2022 05:47 PM (ZMYfe)

253 Prezident Biden is the bestest Prezident we've had since our belurved Prezident and Saint Obama!!!!

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein of Brattleboro, VT at May 27, 2022 05:47 PM (a3Q+t)

254 Finally home. In the basement while the two youngest eat french fries and generally cause controlled mayhem.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Up in arms like Minutemen at May 27, 2022 05:46 PM (YglAn)

Welcome home.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 27, 2022 05:48 PM (nByzo)

255 Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 27, 2022 05:46 PM (nByzo)

Yep.

RIP.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Up in arms like Minutemen at May 27, 2022 05:48 PM (YglAn)

256 NRA intermission. Generic country-rock instrumental musak.

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at May 27, 2022 05:48 PM (qpX6U)

257 ||A class action lawsuit is being brought before a Quebec court alleging that the battery performance of the Chevrolet Bolt -- 2017's "Green Car of the Year" -- isn't as advertised.

As reported by Blacklock's Reporter, General Motors boasted that the 2017 Chevrolet Bolt was able to drive up to 383 kilometers before needing to be charged. However, plaintiffs in the lawsuit are alleging that the vehicle's range during winter before requiring a charge is a lot lower than advertised.

"The range of the Bolt electric vehicle does not even reach 300 kilometres," they claim.

They also say that colder weather drastically increases the battery's charging time and that General Motors was "(a)ware of this situation as early as 2017 but knowingly omitted to mention it to the plaintiff and other members of the class."||

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at May 27, 2022 05:48 PM (yikp0)

258 Try evacuating a wildfire area several days after the power company cut power to the area.

**

Shut up dummy. I saw a Ford commercial during the Superbowl and you can use your electric F150 like a whole house generator for three days if you lose power. Idiot.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 05:48 PM (EEjVl)

259 > The single biggest issue fire departments around the world are dealing with right now is how to deal with ESS, electric storage systems. Basically containers full of lithium batteries.


'cuz gasoline poses no fire hazard whatsoever?

Umm... okay.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 27, 2022 05:48 PM (bW8dp)

260 Just sayin', there are permabans for a reason.

Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2022 05:48 PM (Vr12I)

261 Come on, man...he has to throw garrett a bone.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState
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Heh.
Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 27, 2022 05:44 PM

Too easy?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 27, 2022 05:49 PM (RkC6l)

262 Pence/Ryan on the gop ticket means democrats remain in the white house. I will not vote for that ticket.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large

My friend, will you not help us stop the radical left?

Posted by: Pence/Ryan 24 at May 27, 2022 05:49 PM (nqDDI)

263 Come on, man...he has to throw garrett a bone.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 27, 2022 05:44 PM (RkC6l)


Are we, or are we not, doing phrasing?

Posted by: blaster at May 27, 2022 05:49 PM (9otr5)

264 To Project And To Swerve

Posted by: Uvulva Police Department at May 27, 2022 05:49 PM (OaZlZ)

265 I have to admit. Sometimes MUMR makes me laugh.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at May 27, 2022 05:49 PM (Qhnrt)

266 Someone should ask Biden to name his three favorite BTS songs.
Posted by: The ARC of History!

Takin' Care of Big Guy
You Ain't Black Yet
Hey You Look Fat

Posted by: x at May 27, 2022 05:49 PM (uQFwj)

267 Biden is like Burger King, a lot of Whoppers.

RNC Research
@RNCResearch
Joe Biden falsely claimed he "was appointed to the [Naval] Academy in 1965" while speaking to Naval Academy graduates today.

Biden graduated from the University of Delaware in 1965, making that impossible.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, That's AnonosaurX WrX, hater! at May 27, 2022 05:49 PM (FVME7)

268 Trump up next I guess.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPHaU55uD1I

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at May 27, 2022 05:50 PM (qpX6U)

269 Blimps got nothing on trains.
Posted by: blaster at May 27, 2022 05:46 PM


Some blimps love trains.

Posted by: Cora Segal at May 27, 2022 05:50 PM (a3Q+t)

270 John Kerry - "People forget that greenhouse gasses are pollution"

They 'forget' because carbon dioxide is actually not POLLUTION, you horse-faced jack-ass!

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 27, 2022 05:50 PM (fs1hN)

271 'It's gonna be a good good good good thing, a good thing baby...'
- Zombie Paul Revere and the Raiders

Posted by: Eromero at May 27, 2022 05:50 PM (gktX6)

272 SMH, it just breaks my heart.

Posted by: Infidel at May 27, 2022 05:50 PM (E0NVW)

273 I got a sex toy for my Sgt Rock doll, so i got one at Target. A Barbie doll.
In the doll movie, Barbie is forced into inequities and porn. Then Sgt Rock swings in to save the day.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 27, 2022 05:50 PM (J8LnB)

274 'cuz gasoline poses no fire hazard whatsoever?

Umm... okay.

**

It does, but it's one that even schulbs can extinguish at home.

A laptop battery thrown in the trash can burn down an entire transfer station.

(tries to not laugh)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 05:50 PM (EEjVl)

275 $77 for a tank of gas under the illegitimate Biden junta. Was $40 under our last president.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at May 27, 2022 05:51 PM (0NVox)

276 @37 yes

Nope, Bruford was there in the early years and offered remarkable drum parts until he caught the fever to make machine sounds with KC.

Posted by: micky at May 27, 2022 05:51 PM (3byMq)

277 Great. Just great. Put it on my tax tab.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 27, 2022 05:43 PM (RFAn/)
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I imagined we are supposed to be grateful that it wasn't the $40k per borrower he originally wanted.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe 2022! at May 27, 2022 05:51 PM (aeePL)

278 If Musk was really the genius he is supposed to be he would be advocating for nuclear power plants a second season of Firefly

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 27, 2022 05:46 PM


just sayin'

Posted by: AltonJackson at May 27, 2022 05:51 PM (juglM)

279 To Project And To Swerve

Posted by: Uvulva Police Department at May 27, 2022 05:49 PM


To serve man....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp_EhjlLGkQ


Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at May 27, 2022 05:51 PM (bVYXr)

280 >>> Which will be tied up in court until, coincidently enough, the mid-term elections. When it will be thrown out so hard it will bounce.

I mean, this isn't rocket surgery.
Posted by: William F. "Buck" Dharma at May 27, 2022 05:44 PM (oedLL)


My theory is they'll push it through way ahead of November and it will be wildly popular with the yutes. Then in two years the Dems will put out an identical bill but for much larger like 40K but of course no chance to pass and they'll say, "see we tried to pay off all your debts but THEY'RE stopping us. You know we're good for it because look what we did for all of you two years ago"

Posted by: banana Dream, now 40% less explicit at May 27, 2022 05:52 PM (0fVbu)

281 MOLESTER UNIVERSE MITT ROMNEY at May 27, 2022 05:46 PM (1IJnB)
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You DICKS!!!

Posted by: jeff spicoli's brother at May 27, 2022 05:52 PM (yikp0)

282 277 SMH, it just breaks my heart.
Posted by: Infidel
___

It pisses me off.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 27, 2022 05:52 PM (EfFOe)

283 SMH say their pictures in a Bad Blue yesterday but again still brings a tear

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2022 05:52 PM (2JoB8)

284 Remember when Iran was staging provocations - missile attacks on oil facilities, attacks on foreign tankers - that were outrageous but never actually hurt anyone? From the moment they happened, I have been sure that those attacks were designed by John Kerry and relayed to the Iranian as a great way to get Trump to over-react and discredit himself. I'm sure they were all dismayed when Trump refused to take the bait.

But just to reiterate; I believe that those were acts of war DESIGNED BY THE DNC against this country, who used the Iranians as willing stooges.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 27, 2022 05:52 PM (trdmm)

285 Are we, or are we not, doing phrasing?
Posted by: blaster at May 27, 2022 05:49 PM


You're not new here. It's a choice, like wearing pants whilst commenting.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 27, 2022 05:52 PM (a3Q+t)

286 You know, me and Mrs. Moose got a car right after we got together. It's getting up on a decade and a half of age now and hasn't needed an overhaul yet (teach you to give me a lifetime powertrain warranty) despite clocking in over 200,000 miles. The most significant repair that's ever been needed was a replacement of the Catalytic converter, which was legit converted out.

What's your pie in the sky EV that can come close to that kind of value for a family.

Posted by: mikethemoose at May 27, 2022 05:52 PM (z/ZJG)

287 Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2022 05:47 PM (Vr12I)

If I'm selected to interview, yes, I am gonna take a serious look at it. It really comes down to $$$, if it's a lateral move I'll do it. If it's less? Really depends on how much less.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 05:47 PM (EEjVl)

It's like chess; you get really really good but never can master it.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 27, 2022 05:48 PM (nByzo)

Appreciate it.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Up in arms like Minutemen at May 27, 2022 05:52 PM (YglAn)

288 182 ABBA are the sirens of the apocalypse, change my mind,
Posted by: no 6 at May 27, 2022 05:38 PM (i0Lci)

taking a lot for granted there, bud

not ABBA, the other thing

Posted by: REDACTED at May 27, 2022 05:52 PM (us2H3)

289 282 If Musk was really the genius he is supposed to be he would be advocating for nuclear power plants a second season of Firefly

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 27, 2022 05:46 PM

just sayin'
Posted by: AltonJackson at May 27, 2022 05:51 PM (juglM)


Mal would need to do some SERIOUS dieting.

Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2022 05:52 PM (Vr12I)

290 Come on, man...he has to throw garrett a bone.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 27, 2022 05:44 PM (RkC6l)

Are we, or are we not, doing phrasing?
Posted by: blaster at May 27, 2022 05:49 PM

No...we did that deliberately.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 27, 2022 05:53 PM (RkC6l)

291 I imagined we are supposed to be grateful that it wasn't the $40k per borrower he originally wanted.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe 2022!



Well for a least a week....

Posted by: Some Rat at May 27, 2022 05:53 PM (r1z5A)

292 Re: Alan White of Yes:
- The Yes album with "All Good People" is Bruford, not White.
- White did indeed come in for the *tour* supporting the album _Close To The Edge_, but Bruford recorded on the
_Edge_ album. _Tales Of Topographic Oceans_ was the first studio Yes album with White.

Posted by: gdgm+ at May 27, 2022 05:53 PM (k6jXd)

293 46 is part of an infinite series of hot takes that prove so called environmentalists cannot do math nor systems analysis.

Even from a total carbon output std, the costs of manufacturing 'electric' only vehicles plus the solar cells to 'recharge' it which either will take a very long time or require grossly oversized solar install to catch daylight, fails. That leaves out the much more horrendous environmental costs in production of lithium, the rare earth metals, and so on.

Want to save the environment--buy a used petroleum burning car. Requires no new carbon in mfg and the environmental harms from a gas burner to water, soil, and even carbon load is lower if you buy a compact or subcompact. Haven't looked at hybrid lately but a used plug in hybrid is also an option and a better fit for a solar array charging it.

Posted by: whig at May 27, 2022 05:54 PM (Iq9dF)

294 I foresee a time when auto manufacturers will want bailouts for the billions they spent on battery plants making batteries that don't work and nobody will buy.

They'll claim they built them because they were coerced by the government, which is probably true.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 27, 2022 05:54 PM (sWM8x)

295 worst thing about getting ran over by a locomotive

it leaves a twain mark

Posted by: REDACTED at May 27, 2022 05:55 PM (us2H3)

296 @274

>>They 'forget' because carbon dioxide is actually not POLLUTION, you horse-faced jack-ass!

Again this is what really irritates me about this grand lie, the literally captures, releases and circulates metric giga tons of CO2 every single day, all without man-kinds paltry, minuscule, infinitesimal amount of CO2.

So apparently, The Earth is The Earth's biggest polluter.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 27, 2022 05:55 PM (HVGD2)

297 It's a choice, like wearing pants whilst commenting.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 27, 2022 05:52 PM

Do people actually do that?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 27, 2022 05:55 PM (RkC6l)

298 He is, in fact, in favor of nuclear power plants, and has been for as long as I can remember.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 27, 2022 05:47 PM (bW8dp)
---------------

He is socially liberal and someone needs to give him an all expense paid trip to the CMP.
But he's not a fool.

Posted by: Braenyard, still waiting for a good alternative phone at May 27, 2022 05:55 PM (jyW7T)

299 > It does, but it's one that even schulbs can extinguish at home.


Umm... have you ever seen an actual gasoline fire?

Like the size of one you'd get from a full tank of gas?

Yeah, your trusty 1 quart capacity kitchen FirstAlert ain't doing shit for that, my friend.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 27, 2022 05:55 PM (bW8dp)

300 >>cuz gasoline poses no fire hazard whatsoever?

>>Umm... okay.

The technology to extinguish a gasoline fire has been known for about 100 years.

How do you extinguish a bank of thousands of lithium batteries in thermal runaway?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 27, 2022 05:56 PM (ZLI7S)

301
"How do you spell 'BTS?'" - F. Joe Biden

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 27, 2022 05:40 PM (RFAn/)


"I think the United States owes you all an apology for putting you in concentration camps after Pearl Harbor"

Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2022 05:56 PM (xhaym)

302 Ffs, Paul Ryan -- Biden has been in DC for 40 years, 8 of which part of Obama uber progressive administration.He was a very well known quantity, and his performance is completely predictably bad.

Ryan was not fooled, he's just now pretending to be as a way to dodge any responsibility for helping elect this miserable failure.

We are not that dumb or gullible, buddy. You broke it, you bought it.Own all of this.

Posted by: Lizzy's phone at May 27, 2022 05:56 PM (+UAeM)

303 And I'm scheduled to get solar panels on my house, and they will make enough power to run my car.

In what world? Not this one, bub

Posted by: MkY at May 27, 2022 05:56 PM (cPGH3)

304 I'll take that bet on Tesla trucks hauling anything within the next 10 years. The math simply does not add up (max vehicle weight minus battery weight simply leaves no room for cargo), unless battery tech greatly improves. (Hint--it won't.)

Posted by: FriscoYoda at May 27, 2022 05:56 PM (S7une)

305 worst thing about getting ran over by a locomotive

it leaves a twain mark
Posted by: REDACTED at May 27, 2022 05:55 PM

Hard to get Up after that.

Posted by: Shania at May 27, 2022 05:56 PM (RkC6l)

306 Trump says 'atrocity.' Good for him. That's the word for it, not 'tragedy.'

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at May 27, 2022 05:56 PM (qpX6U)

307 Do people actually do that?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 27, 2022 05:55 PM (RkC6l)
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Yes, and if you need some, Perfessor Squirrel knows where to get the good ones.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe 2022! at May 27, 2022 05:56 PM (aeePL)

308 Any day I agree wholeheartedly with MUMR is truly a weird day.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 27, 2022 05:57 PM (sWM8x)

309 Hairyback Guy: "I remember that....what a bunch of BS. I wonder what he did with all that paper he had stacked up at that dog and pony show.

The man is a menace."


Yeah, that was yet another "I'd Gladly Pay You Tuesday For A Hamburger Today" Bill. We'll just keep on spending more now at this very moment, but in a decade, we'll commit a future Congress (ahahaha!) to cut the budget.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at May 27, 2022 05:58 PM (aXxgO)

310 @274

>>They 'forget' because carbon dioxide is actually not POLLUTION, you horse-faced jack-ass!

Again this is what really irritates me about this grand lie, the Earth literally captures, releases and circulates metric giga tons of CO2 every single day, all without man-kinds paltry, minuscule, infinitesimal amount of CO2.

So apparently, The Earth is The Earth's biggest polluter.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 27, 2022 05:58 PM (HVGD2)

311 - Saw White in 1977/78 with Yes on the _Going For The One_ tour, the opener was Donovan (Leitch) of 'Hurdy Gurdy Man' song fame in the past!
- In his later years, White occasionally worked on projects outside Yes, such as a trio record with bassist Tony Levin and guitarist David Torn (called 'Levin / Torn / White').

Posted by: gdgm+ at May 27, 2022 05:58 PM (k6jXd)

312 MUMR is on a roll this week.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 27, 2022 05:58 PM (Z7XJd)

313 Highest gas prices ever. That's an achievement of sorts. He should upsell that puppy.

Oh, he does have another big achievement, and it is related -- (from a 5/25 CNN article, so no linky to it)

Yet SPR officials said the system has been able to handle the drawdowns with minimal issues, although the reserve now holds the lowest amount of oil since 1987.

Trump topped off our strategic reserves with forethought and mean tweets, but mostly forethought. The Rutabaga has managed to drain off ~180 million barrels of it, and wants to drain some more. All with no lowering of prices to show for it.

Sigh.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 27, 2022 05:58 PM (F0YaR)

314 Uvalde police officers receiving death threats according to Breitbart.
https://tinyurl.com/2nq2ocat

Posted by: Dr Spank at May 27, 2022 05:58 PM (hRmru)

315

Backpedal harder. Before you were claiming a schlub with a home fire extinguisher could deal with it.

Give it a try with even one gallon. Let me know how it works out for you.

Note: I would recommend igniting it from a long, long way away.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 27, 2022 05:58 PM (bW8dp)

316 Keep writing would love to see some mock up of a electric tractor trailer that has to haul 10 tons

Posted by: Skip at May 27, 2022 05:58 PM (2JoB8)

317 "How do you spell 'BTS?'" - F. Joe Biden

"Whats the number for 911?"

Posted by: Holy Crap at May 27, 2022 05:59 PM (glGDV)

318 MUMR has been spot on lately, mostly. Waiting for the other shoe to drop. The fugue state shoe.

Posted by: kraken at May 27, 2022 05:59 PM (Vr12I)

319 Do people actually do that?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 27, 2022 05:55 PM (RkC6l)
----------

Yes, and if you need some, Perfessor Squirrel knows where to get the good ones.
Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe 2022! at May 27, 2022 05:56 PM

Where's the fun in that?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 27, 2022 05:59 PM (RkC6l)

320 If Musk was really the genius he is supposed to be he would be advocating for nuclear power plants.

He is, in fact, in favor of nuclear power plants, and has been for as long as I can remember.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 27, 2022 05:47 PM (bW8dp)

Yes he is but he's not publicly making the argument. At least no where I've seen. That doesn't mean he hasn't.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 27, 2022 05:59 PM (U3akT)

321 "Up ten cents in a week. Now that is an incredible transition."

Electricity prices will necessarily skyrocket.

you will own nothing and (the fentanyl laced into your daily gruel will make you) be Happy.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 27, 2022 06:00 PM (Cus5s)

322 >>>cuz gasoline poses no fire hazard whatsoever?
Umm... okay.


Spray it with foam.

Anyway the real issue isn't gasoline vs battery. It's gas tank malfunction vs battery malfunction that leads to fire. Turns out gas tanks, which have been improved for more than a century for fuel storage, do a much better job of not spontaneously catching on fire than huge batteries. Now gasoline vehicles do catch on fire often, alarmingly often, but the fires tend to be very controlable in comparison....I.e. spray it with foam.

Posted by: mikethemoose at May 27, 2022 06:00 PM (z/ZJG)

323 Too much ABBA bashing on these threads. I'm triggered.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 27, 2022 06:00 PM (fs1hN)

324 Umm... have you ever seen an actual gasoline fire?

Like the size of one you'd get from a full tank of gas?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 27, 2022 05:55 PM


Thousands of gas tanks spontaneously explode each year. It's just not widely reported.

Posted by: David St. Hubbins at May 27, 2022 06:00 PM (hOAT3)

325 Uvalde police officers receiving death threats according to Breitbart.
https://tinyurl.com/2nq2ocat
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 27, 2022 05:58 PM (hRmru)

My field of fucks is completely barren.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 27, 2022 06:00 PM (Z7XJd)

326 Uvalde police officers receiving death threats according to Breitbart.
https://tinyurl.com/2nq2ocat
___

I'd be surprised if they weren't, especially in that area.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 27, 2022 06:01 PM (EfFOe)

327 Umm... have you ever seen an actual gasoline fire?

Like the size of one you'd get from a full tank of gas?

*

Yep. Fireman and HazMat Technician.

FWIW it's the fumes, and you generally don't get full tank of gas fires at home. Does it happen in a wreck? Sure. Can firemen fight it pretty easily? Yep. Mainly because, again, fumes. Poof, and it's mostly done. It also doesn't tend to lock the doors and trap the occupants while it begins to burn for five days, but that's a different conversation.

And unless you like old British cars you don't usually have to worry about it happening while your car is parked.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 06:01 PM (sIl7T)

328 If Musk was really the genius he is supposed to be he would be advocating for nuclear power plants.

He is, in fact, in favor of nuclear power plants, and has been for as long as I can remember.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 27, 2022 05:47 PM (bW8dp)

Okay I know my problem. He's done it on Twitter.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 27, 2022 06:01 PM (U3akT)

329 The technology to extinguish a gasoline fire has been known for about 100 years.

How do you extinguish a bank of thousands of lithium batteries in thermal runaway?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 27, 2022 05:56 PM (ZLI7S

Like that cargo ship filled with European EVs that burned and eventually sank into the Atlantic?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at May 27, 2022 06:01 PM (xPJvm)

330 That subway ad about fentanyl basically legalizes every opioid out there.

"We know you are going to go ahead and use opioids (wink, wink, nudge, nudge), so just be safe when you do!"

Idiots.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 27, 2022 06:01 PM (K5n5d)

331 De fund the police
Only police need guns
The police didn't protect our children

Thinking is hard

Posted by: Stupid Lefities at May 27, 2022 06:02 PM (M+Lyo)

332 "I think modern nuclear power plants are safe contrary to what people may think," the Tesla and SpaceX CEO said.

"I really think it's possible to make very, extremely safe nuclear."

And "I'm talking about fission. You don't need fusion," Musk said. [...]

"We should build more nuclear power plants," Musk said in 2007 interview with PBS. "I think that's a better way to generate energy than certainly a coal power plant or a natural gas power plant." [July 22, 2021]

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at May 27, 2022 06:02 PM (yikp0)

333 Archer: I meant every word I said, and I can back everything up. So if that's "stupid", yes, looks like I am!

Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 06:02 PM (57l0O)

334 Jackstraw: My electric car has an "MPGe" number of over 100. That means it does the equivalent of 100 miles per gallon. So yes, it pollutes less, even if you were to burn petroleum to make the electricity to run it. If I'm running it from rooftop solar, then it will pollute a lot less. "You would be wrong" No, I'm really not. Google search "well to wheel efficiency", tracking total energy cost of extracting the oil, refining it, transporting it, and then burning it in a car; vs. the total energy cost of making electricity, transporting it, storing it in a battery, and using it. Electric cars win every way except up-front cost.

Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 06:02 PM (57l0O)

335 Uvalde police officers receiving death threats according to Breitbart.
https://tinyurl.com/2nq2ocat
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 27, 2022 05:58 PM (hRmru)

Surprisingly, none of those threats are from the kids on the other side of the door.

Maybe not so surprising.

Posted by: weirdflunky at May 27, 2022 06:02 PM (cknjq)

336 Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur: I'm not smoking and neither is my car. Electric, right? It won't smoke unless the battery pack catches on fire, and I didn't buy a Chevy Bolt.

Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 06:02 PM (57l0O)

337 My theory is they'll push it through way ahead of November and it will be wildly popular with the yutes. Then in two years the Dems will put out an identical bill but for much larger like 40K but of course no chance to pass and they'll say, "see we tried to pay off all your debts but THEY'RE stopping us. You know we're good for it because look what we did for all of you two years ago"
Posted by: banana Dream
----------------------
Don't count on the courts blocking it. The issue is who would have standing to challenge a loan forgiveness? Well established Scotus decisions do not allow taxpayer lawsuits unless it involves violating the Bill of Rights such as the Establishment clause. See Frothingham v. Mellon for the general lack of standing for taxpayers to sue and also Flast v. Cohen for the establishment clause exception.
Congress might have standing but currently are run by Dems which would keep the House and Senate on the sidelines, states would seemingly not because of lack of demonstrable harm, and neither would local governments. My guess is that it would be treated more like Obama's Dreamer actions by the courts.

Posted by: whig at May 27, 2022 06:03 PM (Iq9dF)

338 "
Being able to run the car heater in the wintertime is overrated.

Just dress warmly!

Posted by: EV Salesman! at May 27, 2022 05:46 PM (I2/tG) "

one of those little red-hot propane catalytic heaters works kinda okay in an old air-cooled VW, as I know from personal experience.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - grateful for WWV ! at May 27, 2022 06:03 PM (+o2yA)

339 >>Anyway the real issue isn't gasoline vs battery. It's gas tank malfunction vs battery malfunction that leads to fire. Turns out gas tanks, which have been improved for more than a century for fuel storage, do a much better job of not spontaneously catching on fire than huge batteries. Now gasoline vehicles do catch on fire often, alarmingly often, but the fires tend to be very controlable in comparison....I.e. spray it with foam.

No, it really is batteries. They don't burn like ordinary fires, they burn internally. They don't require oxygen, the fire is a chemical reaction.

They are incredibly difficult to extinguish.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 27, 2022 06:03 PM (ZLI7S)

340
And batteries "explode" too.

So fucking what.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 27, 2022 06:03 PM (1mLtq)

341 If I was Preezy, I would make every county or parrish build one nuclear power plant and one 1,000 yard rifle range open to the public and free to use.

CMP FTW!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 27, 2022 06:03 PM (R/m4+)

342 "took too long"

Posted by: x at May 27, 2022 06:03 PM (uQFwj)

343 If environmental concerns really required an alternative to gasoline (they don't), CNG has much more to recommend it than electric.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 27, 2022 06:03 PM (sWM8x)

344 How do you extinguish a bank of thousands of lithium batteries in thermal runaway?
Posted by: JackStraw at May 27, 2022 05:56 PM


Sing about it?

My little runaway
My run run run run runaway

Posted by: Del Shannon at May 27, 2022 06:04 PM (a3Q+t)

345 OMFG
what part of NO do
You not understand?

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 27, 2022 06:04 PM (KaYud)

346 Okay, who's sock?
mr_jack is a very lame sock, whoever it belongs to.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 27, 2022 06:04 PM (EfFOe)

347 And we have mr jackoff.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 27, 2022 06:04 PM (Z7XJd)

348 We have perfected the internal combustion engine and the infrastructure required for it, and are purposely giving it up for something that doesn't exist in order to save absolutely nothing because the average trip in the US - while it's short enough to "work" with an EV - is also so short that it's not polluting to any great degree.

We're throwing 100+ years of proven, safe, near-perfect technology away in order to accomplish nothing.

Ponder that for a while.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 06:04 PM (sIl7T)

349 And we have mr jackoff.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 27, 2022 06:04 PM (Z7XJd)

And Masterbatin Pete

Posted by: Stupid Lefities at May 27, 2022 06:05 PM (M+Lyo)

350 339 Uvalde police officers receiving death threats according to Breitbart.
https://tinyurl.com/2nq2ocat
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 27, 2022 05:58 PM (hRmru)

Surprisingly, none of those threats are from the kids on the other side of the door.

Maybe not so surprising.
Posted by: weirdflunky at May 27, 2022 06:02 PM (cknjq)

Ouch. But *golfclap* anyway.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 27, 2022 06:05 PM (08ncd)

351 >>> Blimps got nothing on trains. I saw a train with double stack containers in Texas that was about two miles long. That's a LOT of cargo.
Posted by: blaster at May 27, 2022 05:46 PM (9otr5)


No. People really haven't seen the designs that were planned. The problem is that we have this intuition that there's an upper limit on gross weight and cargo capacity of aircraft. And that's true for all airplanes. The lines determining the weight of structure required and weight of structure desired always intersect at some max weight for any known or fantasized aircraft material because of the math. But lighter than air don't work that way and the lines don't converge. There is no max weight. You could have massive ships carrying more than any train or container ship at faster than train speeds. Almost all the design problems have been figured out. The biggest one is where to land something that big. But other than some Lockheed Martin work a decade or so ago no one has really worked towards the really big craft.

Posted by: banana Dream, now 40% less explicit at May 27, 2022 06:05 PM (0fVbu)

352 That subway ad about fentanyl basically legalizes every opioid out there.

Remember, right before COVID hit, the big PR campaign of the NYC Health Department was telling people that they should have sex with HIV positive people.

Really.

Posted by: EV Salesman! at May 27, 2022 06:05 PM (I2/tG)

353 Speaking of Target missing its targets...I saw on Twitter that strip clubs are empty.

That's an indicator.

Posted by: blaster at May 27, 2022 06:05 PM (9otr5)

354 one of those little red-hot propane catalytic heaters works kinda okay in an old air-cooled VW, as I know from personal experience.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - grateful for WWV ! at May 27, 2022 06:03 PM


Or in a 1962 Chevy corvair. My mother hated that thing. She had to go start it 20 minutes ahead of time in the middle of winter in NE Ohio to take us to school.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at May 27, 2022 06:06 PM (bVYXr)

355 Electric cars win every way except up-front cost.

***

So how far down a boat ramp can I back a Nissan Leaf, because my skids sit high and I usually have to get my 30" rear tires on my old Tacoma in the water at least up to the bottom lugs. That'll be okay in a Leaf or Bolt, right?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 06:06 PM (sIl7T)

356 Flamethrow Friday!

mr_jack,
We can start with you!

Why be a turd when you can be a flaming turd?

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 27, 2022 06:06 PM (KaYud)

357 hiya

Posted by: JT at May 27, 2022 06:06 PM (arJlL)

358 Deplorable Jay Guevara: we will get more electricity by running power plants, building new ones if necessary. As a guy on YouTube pointed out, air conditioning draws a lot of power yet a lot of houses have it and the grid didn't melt down or explode.

Solar power and wind power are getting so cheap that it's cheaper to build more of those, than to buy coal to run an already-built coal plant. The problem is that they are unpredictable but the solution is to build massive battery packs. These massive battery packs cost money but the overall price is better than buying coal, and they save the power companies money by stabilizing the grid (no need to pay "peaker" power plants for grid support).

This is another thing where the free market will sort itself out over time with no help from government but it needs like a decade to happen, it's not ready now.

Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 06:06 PM (57l0O)

359 "People really haven't seen the designs that were planned."

Where do we get enough helium for those?

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at May 27, 2022 06:06 PM (qpX6U)

360 >>Jackstraw: My electric car has an "MPGe" number of over 100. That means it does the equivalent of 100 miles per gallon. So yes, it pollutes less, even if you were to burn petroleum to make the electricity to run it. If I'm running it from rooftop solar, then it will pollute a lot less. "You would be wrong" No, I'm really not. Google search "well to wheel efficiency", tracking total energy cost of extracting the oil, refining it, transporting it, and then burning it in a car; vs. the total energy cost of making electricity, transporting it, storing it in a battery, and using it. Electric cars win every way except up-front cost.

Yes, I understand the argument. Do you know what it takes to mine the minerals necessary to build your electric vehicle? Way more environmentally damaging than drilling for petroleum. Do you know where your solar panels and batteries are disposed of after their useful life? Neither can just be tossed in a landfill since they are full of toxic chemicals.

You have to look at the total service life of the technologies not just the benefits you are getting. You aren't nearly as green as you think you are.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 27, 2022 06:07 PM (ZLI7S)

361 ..I think he's some sort of composer. He did Blade Runner, or something. Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 27, 2022 05:18 PM (1mLtq)

Vangelis? Dude's been dead ten days now.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent

My internet connection is really slow. Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 27, 2022 05:26 PM (1mLtq)


Regardless, Vangelis is only De-Composing, now.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 27, 2022 06:07 PM (QzJWU)

362 And unless you like old British cars you don't usually have to worry about it happening while your car is parked.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 06:01 PM


Or your lights and wipers not working.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 27, 2022 06:07 PM (a3Q+t)

363 Isn't Paul Rino the guy who hijacked the Tea Party movement into the Speaker's office where he tossed aside the continuing resolution practice and wrote a budget that got negotiated into an obamanation? Yeah, I thought he was that guy.

Posted by: Marooned at May 27, 2022 06:07 PM (w6hJ9)

364 mr_jack,
We can start with you!

Why be a turd when you can be a flaming turd?
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 27, 2022 06:06 PM (KaYud)

Going for a gay thing or more of a Dread Dormamu direction, nurse?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 27, 2022 06:07 PM (08ncd)

365 My field of fucks is completely barren.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory


So much that my lost GivAFuckOMeter is hidden by the curvature of the earth.

Posted by: DaveA at May 27, 2022 06:07 PM (FhXTo)

366 >>>Umm... have you ever seen an actual gasoline fire?

Yes I have. Oh well being pedantic is the way of the web. Vehicle fires are usually extinguished with a fire extinguisher because it's usually your 1. Battery, or 2. Fuel system that starts the fire. Fuel system usually has its fuel cut off when you shut the engine down. The gas tank actually does a pretty good job at containing gasoline.

Posted by: mikethemoose at May 27, 2022 06:08 PM (z/ZJG)

367 I saw on Twitter that strip clubs are empty.
_____________________

I haven't been to a strip club in many years. Are the women all tatted and pierced and non-natural hair dye these days? Or maybe what SI considers cover worthy?

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 27, 2022 06:08 PM (fs1hN)

368 Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news: gasoline is bad because it's expensive and when you burn it it makes pollution. Some people also believe it will cause a global warming catastrophe but I am not convinced.

But I really love my electric car. The only thing I don't love is how expensive it was to buy. When the costs drop to where an electric car is cheaper to buy, almost everyone will switch to electric.

Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 06:08 PM (57l0O)

369 Insty keeps running scanitly clad, busty ladies in his ads.

*looks at ace*

Be better, ace. Be Better.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 27, 2022 06:08 PM (08ncd)

370 Give it a try with even one gallon. Let me know how it works out for you.
Note: I would recommend igniting it from a long, long way away.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 27, 2022 05:58 PM (bW8dp)


Dude, you are making the error that one is as bad as the other. In reality the argument is if you want to drop the hibachi full of coals in your lap or the flaming bowl of flaming caramel.
Either one is going to roast your chestnuts good, but one is going to be easier to deal with.


Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2022 06:09 PM (xhaym)

371 yeah, Mister Scott, I guess so ... any air-cooled car with a heat exchanger, makes sense.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - grateful for WWV ! at May 27, 2022 06:09 PM (+o2yA)

372 Uvalde police officers receiving death threats according to Breitbart.
https://tinyurl.com/2nq2ocat
Posted by: Dr Spank at May 27, 2022 05:58 PM (hRmru)

My field of fucks is completely barren.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 27, 2022 06:00 PM

*pushes a .45 loaded with one round through the USB port for them*

Y'all know what to do.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 27, 2022 06:09 PM (RkC6l)

373 A real crappy sock.

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 27, 2022 06:10 PM (EfFOe)

374 Gasoline is treacherous, deserves respect and caution.

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at May 27, 2022 06:10 PM (qpX6U)

375 "Electric cars win every way except up-front cost."

I don't believe the other data, but ignoring the giant up front cost (and the lifetime of the battery, which then needs replaced after 8 years?) ... is pretty big.

I have 9000 watts of panels, would be fun to dump that into an electric small vehicle ... but it is all about that $40K up front cost, not to mention all the government subsidy.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 27, 2022 06:10 PM (Cus5s)

376
So how far down a boat ramp can I back a Nissan Leaf, because my skids sit high and I usually have to get my 30" rear tires on my old Tacoma in the water at least up to the bottom lugs. That'll be okay in a Leaf or Bolt, right?

Posted by: Moron Robbie


You have an electric boat?

Posted by: davidt at May 27, 2022 06:10 PM (Vg5Sd)

377 what part of NO do
You not understand?
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 27, 2022 06:04 PM


Are you asking about nitrogen or oxygen?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 27, 2022 06:10 PM (a3Q+t)

378 I've Seen All Good People was on "The Yes Album" which was their third album.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_discography

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 27, 2022 06:11 PM (63Dwl)

379 My problem with electrics is range. Plus, they are ugly- but that is a problem with all modern cars.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 27, 2022 06:11 PM (08ncd)

380 Robert: You sound unconvinced. Here, this is a relatively short backgrounder.

https://bit.ly/3LYtARo

Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 06:11 PM (57l0O)

381 189 Anyone know anything about graphene batteries? Are they truly a game changer or more vaporware?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at May 27, 2022 05:39 PM (ZMYfe)


If I had nickel for every revolutionary battery technology announced over the past 20 years, I could buy several $90,000 Teslas tomorrow.

Posted by: Get on it, Wheels! at May 27, 2022 06:11 PM (Meiie)

382
gasoline is bad because it's expensive and when you burn it it makes pollution.

When the costs drop to where an electric car is cheaper to buy, almost everyone will switch to electric.
Posted by: mr_jack


Yeah, this is not realistic.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 27, 2022 06:12 PM (1mLtq)

383 one Huge Manatee ended blimps forever.

Posted by: DaveA at May 27, 2022 06:12 PM (FhXTo)

384 But other than some Lockheed Martin work a decade or so ago no one has really worked towards the really big craft.
Posted by: banana Dream, now 40% less explicit at May 27, 2022 06:05 PM (0fVbu)


How big a blimp would it take to put a 2 mile train of double stack containers worth of cargo on it. I don't doubt that it could be done, but it hasn't been. There's a reason. I expect it would be big. Where would you even park it?

Posted by: blaster at May 27, 2022 06:12 PM (9otr5)

385 >>>Note: I would recommend igniting it from a long, long way away.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at May 27, 2022 05:58 PM (bW8dp)
---------------

The way gasoline is contained in a vehicle greatly reduces the risk of ignition, even in a collision.
Collisions rarely result in gasoline ignition whereas in a collision with a battery powered vehicle ignition is a much higher probability.

Posted by: Braenyard, still waiting for a good alternative phone at May 27, 2022 06:12 PM (jyW7T)

386 No. People really haven't seen the designs that were planned. The problem is that we have this intuition that there's an upper limit on gross weight and cargo capacity of aircraft.


I was under the impression that the chief problem with zeppelins was their sheer size. The weather can literally be different on different parts of the aircraft. I think that most of the crashes involved the nose or tail being in an updraft while the other end was in a downdraft.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 27, 2022 06:12 PM (yQpMk)

387 btw my AC runs fine on a sunny day like now till about 6:30 pm, without using the batteries. But it is only 1000 watt window unit, enough for my needs.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 27, 2022 06:12 PM (Cus5s)

388 To all of you who gave me firearms advice on the previous thread, thank you.

But it is unlikely that my lack of knowledge as to how to drive a stick would kill somebody.

My lack of knowledge as to how to properly handle a firearm, however...?

Posted by: BBulgaroctonus, opening for T-Rex at The Basement S in '72 at May 27, 2022 06:13 PM (rzOL9)

389
btw, we never get new commenters here because all you nitwits keep chasing them away

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 27, 2022 06:13 PM (1mLtq)

390 Posted by: x at May 27, 2022 05:49 PM (uQFwj)

Obviously Hunter's favorite BTO song is "Rock Is My Life."

Posted by: @TheRealWilliamHayes at May 27, 2022 06:13 PM (FIJ+3)

391 381 what part of NO do
You not understand?
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 27, 2022 06:04 PM

Are you asking about nitrogen or oxygen?
Posted by: Duncanthrax

The part where we won't refill your medications because we told you three months ago you needed lab work to make sure your kidneys weren't being destroyed and you won't fucking do it. So NO.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 27, 2022 06:13 PM (KaYud)

392 or vise versa.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 27, 2022 06:13 PM (yQpMk)

393 Backpedal harder. Before you were claiming a schlub with a home fire extinguisher could deal with it.
Give it a try with even one gallon. Let me know how it works out for you.
Note: I would recommend igniting it from a long, long way away.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia
**

Is this directed at me?

Because yeah, I'm right. I'm not sure what's confusing about it. I'm not even talking with my professional certifications, either.

Heck, it's the reason you're required to have a fire extinguisher on a boat. They burn gasoline. And, as JackStraw can likely attest, they're operated by schlubs.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 06:13 PM (sIl7T)

394 "https://bit.ly/3LYtARo"

Tesla truck. Not even available for delivery yet.

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at May 27, 2022 06:13 PM (qpX6U)

395 212 RIP, litttle ones.

https://tinyurl.com/4zf767r2

Posted by: SMH at what's coming at May 27, 2022 05:42 PM (EfFOe)

Gut wrenching. I have nothing else to say.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 27, 2022 06:14 PM (sy5kK)

396
And "I'm talking about fission. You don't need fusion," Musk said.

That's good because we don't have fusion.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 27, 2022 06:14 PM (63Dwl)

397 Anyone know anything about graphene batteries? Are they truly a game changer or more vaporware?
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at May 27, 2022 05:39 PM (ZMYfe)


Sony (maybe Sony) is supposed to be working on a solid state battery, and that is supposed to be the game changer.

If it is Sony, of course, it will be the newest version of the Betamax. Probably with ePearl technology.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2022 06:15 PM (xhaym)

398 A blimp would be sweet.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 27, 2022 06:15 PM (Z7XJd)

399 And "I'm talking about fission. You don't need fusion," Musk said.

That's good because we don't have fusion.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 27, 2022 06:14 PM (63Dwl)

Let's do fission for now, baby- we can talk about fusion down the road.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 27, 2022 06:15 PM (08ncd)

400 I can make a battery from Cheese Whiz and sawdust. Doesn't hold charge very well though.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at May 27, 2022 06:15 PM (Qhnrt)

401 380
So how far down a boat ramp can I back a Nissan Leaf, because my skids sit high and I usually have to get my 30" rear tires on my old Tacoma in the water at least up to the bottom lugs. That'll be okay in a Leaf or Bolt, right?

Posted by: Moron Robbie
-----------------------

Hahahahahahahahahahaha.

What happens to that battery when it goes underwater?

Posted by: Braenyard, still waiting for a good alternative phone at May 27, 2022 06:15 PM (jyW7T)

402 402 A blimp would be sweet.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 27, 2022 06:15 PM (Z7XJd)

Airship!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 27, 2022 06:15 PM (08ncd)

403 The part where we won't refill your medications because we told you three months ago you needed lab work to make sure your kidneys weren't being destroyed and you won't fucking do it. So NO.
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 27, 2022 06:13 PM


I put some methylene blue in a Coke, drank it, and micturated blue, so I think they're working.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 27, 2022 06:16 PM (a3Q+t)

404 >>> Anyone know anything about graphene batteries? Are they truly a game changer or more vaporware?

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at May 27, 2022 05:39 PM (ZMYfe)


If I had nickel for every revolutionary battery technology announced over the past 20 years, I could buy several $90,000 Teslas tomorrow.
Posted by: Get on it, Wheels! at May 27, 2022 06:11 PM (Meiie)


All the buzz now is over graphYne. Y? I don't know. I also don't how it differs from graphene. But some group at a college recently said they synthesized a bunch. So it's in the news.

Posted by: banana Dream, now 40% less explicit at May 27, 2022 06:16 PM (0fVbu)

405 I saw Flaming Caramel open for BTS at Epstein's island in 2015! Bill Clinton was just hilarious on stage with them!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at May 27, 2022 06:16 PM (yikp0)

406 My lack of knowledge as to how to properly handle a firearm, however...?
---
You can learn to safely handle a firearm in a few minutes. Really. After that, it's a matter of consistently following just a few rules.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 27, 2022 06:16 PM (sWM8x)

407 Solar power and wind power are getting so cheap that it's cheaper to build more of those, than to buy coal to run an already-built coal plant. The problem is that they are unpredictable but the solution is to build massive battery packs.

LOL. The battery packs are incredibly expensive, so a solar plant with "backup" only has four hours of backup.

The wind blows a third of the time, the sun shines half the time, but don't worry, because batteries will back everything up the rest of the time.

Bull.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 27, 2022 06:16 PM (I2/tG)

408 I've Seen All Good People was on "The Yes Album" which was their third album.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yes_discography
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 27, 2022 06:11 PM (63Dwl)
---
The two albums made with Peter Banks on guitar are almost as obscure as the two albums Supertramp made before Crime of the Century. ("Yes" and "Time And A Word")

Posted by: Axeman at May 27, 2022 06:17 PM (OaZlZ)

409 The biggest one is where to land something that big. But other than some Lockheed Martin work a decade or so ago no one has really worked towards the really big craft.
Posted by: banana Dream

this is teh funneh, but not because you are wrong. you are totally correct. what makes it teh funneh for me is that i paid the irad to work out the heavy lift lighter than air kevlar thread weave pattern (yes, we patented it) which is why and how i k ow good and well you are correct.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (UgAdJ) - at May 27, 2022 06:17 PM (UgAdJ)

410 From previous thread:
Chasten Buttigieg
@Chasten

Who the hell is Chasten Buttigieg? Geeze, I've got to keep up...it's (Xe's?) Pete's wife.

This is how sick our culture has become.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 27, 2022 06:17 PM (FocqQ)

411 Backpedal harder. Before you were claiming a schlub with a home fire extinguisher could deal with it.

**

Wait, the "deal with it" might be where we're getting sideways.

Do you mean a car exploding or a fuel fire under the hood?

Serious question: Have you ever seen a full-tank explosion spontaneously occur? I've seen underhood fires at racetracks, and I bet you have, too, and I've seen people put them out with fire extinguishers. I bet you have, too.

What are you referring to with the "deal with it," though. That might solve all of our problems.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 06:17 PM (sIl7T)

412 But it is unlikely that my lack of knowledge as to how to drive a stick would kill somebody.
My lack of knowledge as to how to properly handle a firearm, however...?
Posted by: BBulgaroctonus, opening for T-Rex at The Basement S in '72 at May 27, 2022 06:13 PM (rzOL9)


Manual is not impossible to learn, people just get scared off by the stories. I mean people drink coffee and text while steering with their knees and don't die, what is hard about a stick?

Stick is fun. Automatic is like driving an electric golf cart with a limiter in comparison.

Posted by: Kindltot at May 27, 2022 06:17 PM (xhaym)

413 "But it is unlikely that my lack of knowledge as to how to drive a stick would kill somebody.

My lack of knowledge as to how to properly handle a firearm, however...?

Posted by: BBulgaroctonus, opening for T-Rex at The Basement S in '72 at May 27, 2022 06:13 PM (rzOL9) "

well, okay, your body, your choice, but seriously, how hard would it be to be better than 98% of the gangbangers and thugs you will be up against ?
stop by the Sunday Gun Thread sometime !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - grateful for WWV ! at May 27, 2022 06:17 PM (+o2yA)

414 New commenters are idiots.

Posted by: ... at May 27, 2022 06:18 PM (dscaa)

415 >>Heck, it's the reason you're required to have a fire extinguisher on a boat. They burn gasoline. And, as JackStraw can likely attest, they're operated by schlubs.


Boats or fire extinguishers? Never mind, the answer is yes to both.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 27, 2022 06:18 PM (ZLI7S)

416 When the costs drop to where an electric car is cheaper to buy, almost everyone will switch to electric.
Posted by: mr_jack

I'm holding out for flying unicorns.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, That's AnonosaurX WrX, hater! at May 27, 2022 06:18 PM (FVME7)

417
I'm willing to bet "death threats" is Uvalde PD Spanish for "unfavorable media coverage."

The Stoneman Douglas shooting happened, and Scott Israel was doing fundraising events for Andrew Gillum within a few months. Water off a duck's ass. Nobody cares.

Posted by: @TheRealWilliamHayes at May 27, 2022 06:18 PM (FIJ+3)

418 " But some group at a college recently said they synthesized a bunch"

phys.org article does not specify the amount they made. My guess: a bunch ... of milligrams.

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at May 27, 2022 06:18 PM (qpX6U)

419 I'm holding out for flying unicorns.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, That's AnonosaurX WrX, hater! at May 27, 2022 06:18 PM (FVME7)



My skittle nets are ready to deploy.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 27, 2022 06:19 PM (yQpMk)

420 You first, on your own dime not at the expense of others, for at least five years then get back to us maybe by postcard.

Solar power and wind power are getting so cheap that it's cheaper to build more of those, than to buy coal to run an already-built coal plant. The problem is that they are unpredictable but the solution is to build massive battery packs.

Posted by: Holy Crap at May 27, 2022 06:19 PM (glGDV)

421 402 A blimp would be sweet.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 27, 2022 06:15 PM (Z7XJd)

Airship!
Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at May 27, 2022 06:15 PM (08ncd)
---
In Neal Stephenson's The Diamond Age, they had airships made of carbon shells or something surrounding pure vacuum instead of using hydrogen or helium for lift. It was an interesting concept.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 27, 2022 06:19 PM (K5n5d)

422 redridinghood: No need to worry about the grid; it won't "fry". If you ask nicely I will explain it to you, but since you just flatly stated that it will "fry" as a fact, I'm just going right back at you: no it won't.

If an emergency happens, I will be able to drive my car for about 280 miles before needing a charge. I plug in my car the same way I plug in my phone so it's always charged.

And, if I get stuck in a traffic jam, the car actually gets more efficient and I might eke out a few extra miles.

If I can go to Tesla Supercharger stations, it takes much less than an hour to charge, but of course it takes more than 5 minutes. But I reckon any disaster I can't escape on one charge is a pretty big problem.

I know perfectly well where power comes from. I won't rehash it with you. As for batteries, lots of companies are making them, and they are very recyclable, so you don't need to worry.

Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 06:19 PM (57l0O)

423 Axeman @ 412-
Supertramp and Yes are underappreciated, But then I like Alan Parsons an Moody Blues.

Posted by: Eromero at May 27, 2022 06:20 PM (gktX6)

424 My guess: a bunch ... of milligrams.
Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at May 27, 2022 06:18 PM


Put enough milliKohns in a room, and eventually you can get to a Kohn.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 27, 2022 06:20 PM (a3Q+t)

425 My lack of knowledge as to how to properly handle a firearm, however...?

Posted by: BBulgaroctonus
--------------------------
They are in a way less dangerous than many household appliances or driving.

They go off when you pull the trigger. Follow the rules of gun safety-
Every gun is loaded (or assumed to be)
Never point the gun at anything you are not willing to destroy or kill
Keep your finger off the trigger until you are pointing the weapon at the target and choosing to fire.
The fourth rule is always be aware of what is behind your target and whether you are willing to risk shooting them as well.

Posted by: whig at May 27, 2022 06:20 PM (Iq9dF)

426 A blimp would be sweet.
----------------------------------
Finally use the Empire State Building as designed!

Posted by: andycanuck (yikp0) at May 27, 2022 06:20 PM (yikp0)

427
The chief reason fires are way, way more dangerous on boats and planes is...

there's no escape.

You can run out of a building, but you can't run out of an airplane. And jumping off a boat isn't pragmatic in most occasions.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 27, 2022 06:21 PM (1mLtq)

428 If electric vehicles made sense, no case would have to be made for them.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 27, 2022 06:21 PM (yQpMk)

429 Sony (maybe Sony) is supposed to be working on a solid state battery, and that is supposed to be the game changer.

We've been on the verge of a "huge breakthrough" in battery technology for forty years now.

In reality, of course, we are continuing to get incremental improvements in battery technology, like we have been for years.

The problem is that people think that batteries are like computer chips - that you'll regularly get enormous improvements. Battery chemistry doesn't work like that.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 27, 2022 06:21 PM (I2/tG)

430 I know perfectly well where power comes from.
Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 06:19 PM


So you have visited the Gun Thread.

Posted by: zombie Mao Ze Dong at May 27, 2022 06:22 PM (a3Q+t)

431 Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 06:19 PM (57l0O)

You can have your electric car . More power to you. Can you please keep your hands off my gasoline powered car and stop supporting government actions that are trying to favor one over the other at taxpayer expense.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 27, 2022 06:23 PM (U3akT)

432 " the sun shines half the time,"

yeah, but the Full Sun is much less than that, and that doesn't consider cloudy days.

Solar is pretty cool ... it is not coal, or oil, or gas, or nuclear. We can do all those clean, especially since CO2 is not a pollutant, it is a plant "fertilizer". The Greening of America, and the world, especially arid places -- is advancing due to more CO2.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 27, 2022 06:23 PM (Cus5s)

433 Double Team Trolling. Just like old school professional wrestling.

Posted by: davidt at May 27, 2022 06:23 PM (Vg5Sd)

434
btw, we never get new commenters here because all you nitwits keep chasing them away

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 27, 2022 06:13 PM (1mLtq)

________

Nay, sir! I always give them a laurel and hearty handshake.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 27, 2022 06:23 PM (/U27+)

435 You can have your electric car . More power to you.


ISWYDT

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 27, 2022 06:23 PM (yQpMk)

436 No need to worry about the grid; it won't "fry".

No - all the key components of the system isolate themselves automatically to prevent being damaged when the sensors report dangerous conditions.

You just have a huge, lengthy blackout. No frying required.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 27, 2022 06:24 PM (I2/tG)

437 Learned tractor/trailer on a B61 Mack with a duplex transmission. Hotter'n hell in the summer.

Posted by: Eromero at May 27, 2022 06:24 PM (gktX6)

438 you can't run out of an airplane.
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 27, 2022 06:21 PM


Ahem.

Posted by: C-130 at May 27, 2022 06:24 PM (a3Q+t)

439 "If you ask nicely I will explain it to you"

I'll ask nicely: What's the required capacity required by an all-electric USA fleet? What's our current capacity? And do you actually own an electric car that you have actually driven 280 miles on one charge? If you do, what's the make and model?

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at May 27, 2022 06:24 PM (qpX6U)

440
You can have your electric car . More power to you. Can you please keep your hands off my gasoline powered car and stop supporting government actions that are trying to favor one over the other at taxpayer expense.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter

Absolutely this!

Posted by: Infidel at May 27, 2022 06:24 PM (E0NVW)

441 "432 If electric vehicles made sense, no case would have to be made for them.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 27, 2022 06:21 PM (yQpMk) "

cutting to the heart of the matter like a foot-long razorblade !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - grateful for WWV ! at May 27, 2022 06:24 PM (+o2yA)

442 I want that single-seat drone. The battery charge only lasts 25 minutes, but that's 25 minutes of a hell of a lot of fun.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at May 27, 2022 06:24 PM (Qhnrt)

443 So you have visited the Gun Thread.

Posted by: zombie Mao Ze Dong
------------------
Golf clap. Well done. My guess zooming well overhead of the target though.

Posted by: whig at May 27, 2022 06:24 PM (Iq9dF)

444 Totally of topic - Gwen Stefani as a brunette (video is called Cool) - WOW

Posted by: Chuck Martel at May 27, 2022 06:25 PM (fs1hN)

445 btw, we never get new commenters here because all you nitwits keep chasing them away
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 27, 2022 06:13 PM (1mLtq)
________
Nay, sir! I always give them a laurel and hearty handshake.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

i heard Higgins deliver the next line in my head.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (UgAdJ) - at May 27, 2022 06:25 PM (UgAdJ)

446 EVs should have to make their way without subsidies.

The issue, for me, is the forcing of oil production to a hard OFF position.

Posted by: micky at May 27, 2022 06:25 PM (3byMq)

447 By all means, let's give up our guns and be like other countries

Mexican hotel shooting by hooded gunmen leaves 11 dead, 5 wounded

A group of about 15 armed men wearing hoods hopped out of two trucks and opened fire on unsuspecting clients and employees at the hotel and bar. As more than 50 rounds rang out, the attackers reportedly also burned the storefronts of two businesses nearby using homemade bombs, according to the outlet.

https://fxn.ws/39Yv0OC

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 27, 2022 06:25 PM (c8pZY)

448 427 Axeman @ 412-
Supertramp and Yes are underappreciated, But then I like Alan Parsons an Moody Blues.
Posted by: Eromero at May 27, 2022 06:20 PM (gktX6)

Supertramp is not unappreciated here in the dog house, nor are the Moody Blues.

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at May 27, 2022 06:25 PM (BgMrQ)

449 Supertramp and Yes are underappreciated, But then I like Alan Parsons an Moody Blues.
Posted by: Eromero at May 27, 2022 06:20 PM
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I definitely think Supertramp's first two are underrated. I had to order them on FLAC from a special site.

Posted by: Axeman at May 27, 2022 06:25 PM (OaZlZ)

450 We looked at the Pacifica hybrid but didn't like that the batteries were right under where my son would sit. i just didn't feel safe about it. We got the Pacifica but not the Hybrid and we get 28- 29 on long drives.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 27, 2022 06:26 PM (dKiJG)

451 you can't run out of an airplane.
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 27, 2022 06:21 PM

Ahem.
Posted by: C-130

i say 'hrrrmmmmphhh!'

Posted by: C-5A at May 27, 2022 06:26 PM (UgAdJ)

452 The problem is that people think that batteries are like computer chips - that you'll regularly get enormous improvements. Battery chemistry doesn't work like that.

Posted by: The ARC of History!
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There is actually a 'battery' that is so reliable that they are currently working outside the solar system and have for decades. Of course, they rely on making electricity from the decay of plutonium so there is that little caveat.

Posted by: whig at May 27, 2022 06:26 PM (Iq9dF)

453 SMH, Mr Aspirin Factory: I'm not a sock puppet. I don't post that often but I've been posting for years with the same nick.

I have to say, you folks aren't making me feel real welcome here. I actually own an electric car and people are telling me they know better than I do how useful it would be in an emergency, how fast it will charge, how much power it needs, etc.

If I have some kind of sock puppet agenda just what is it exactly? You think I can make money or something by trying to put you guys some f'n knowledge? You think I'm having fun wasting my time like this?

Not one person seems to be interested in hearing from me about this, so I'll take the hint.

Have a great holiday weekend everyone. Yes, even you.

Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 06:26 PM (57l0O)

454 off Marietta sock

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (UgAdJ) - at May 27, 2022 06:27 PM (UgAdJ)

455 Posted by: mr_jack


smells like bot in here

Posted by: Hands at May 27, 2022 06:27 PM (786Ro)

456 "Not one person seems to be interested in hearing from me about this, so I'll take the hint."

I am. Answer my four questions in 443.

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at May 27, 2022 06:28 PM (qpX6U)

457 >>>gasoline is bad because it's expensive and when you burn it it makes pollution.

God not with the emissions standards these days. CO and NOx from cars just aren't the problem they used to be.

Expensive? A bit. Being able to take your "just traveled 400 miles" vehicle to "ready to go another 400 miles" in 10 minutes? Priceless. Able to carry Jerry Cans into the wild and extend range? Priceless. Like I said, At a decade and a half my car has far outlived an EV and I'd like to pull another decade out of it minimum. A completely remanufactured engine costs less than 4K and I don't need it yet.

Gasoline = freedom.
EV = you .. to work .. back home .. travel around town on the weekend. Exactly what our overlords want us limited to.

Posted by: mikethemoose at May 27, 2022 06:28 PM (z/ZJG)

458 Not one person seems to be interested in hearing from me about this


Indeed.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 27, 2022 06:28 PM (yQpMk)

459 You just have a huge, lengthy blackout. No frying required.

Posted by: The ARC of History!
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You left out the fun of restarting massive power plants for the grid.

Posted by: whig at May 27, 2022 06:28 PM (Iq9dF)

460 So, the wife's iphone 4 has been sitting on a shelf for years. Now, suddenly, the battery has expanded and popped off the back of the phone case.

It makes me wonder even more about the LI batteries electric cars have.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 27, 2022 06:28 PM (XvPQV)

461 btw, we never get new commenters here because all you nitwits keep chasing them away
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 27, 2022 06:13 PM


The Barrel is a privilege, not a right.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 27, 2022 06:28 PM (a3Q+t)

462
I definitely think Supertramp's first two are underrated. I had to order them on FLAC from a special site.
Posted by: Axeman at May 27, 2022 06:25 PM (OaZlZ)

I like Supertramp too. Kind of a knockoff of Yes but with better rhythm.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at May 27, 2022 06:29 PM (Qhnrt)

463
zelensky is the new fauci

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 27, 2022 06:29 PM (1mLtq)

464 >>>
How big a blimp would it take to put a 2 mile train of double stack containers worth of cargo on it. I don't doubt that it could be done, but it hasn't been. There's a reason. I expect it would be big. Where would you even park it?
Posted by: blaster at May 27, 2022 06:12 PM (9otr5)


Yeah thats why I said that was the main problem. It would be in places that had open plains or very wide fields mostly. Definitely not town centers. The modern designs used giant hovercraft like skirts in a few areas along their bottom that would suck them down to the ground while unloading and loading was done. I can see the logistical problems sure. But it's a neat idea for global transports. I guess it would really replace cargo ships and ports more than trains and anything else.

Posted by: banana Dream, now 40% less explicit at May 27, 2022 06:29 PM (0fVbu)

465 I been falsely accused, Cletus!

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 27, 2022 06:29 PM (sWM8x)

466 I'm happy to hear the case for electric vehicles. No need to be petulant about it. People get abused here. Rite of passage.

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at May 27, 2022 06:29 PM (qpX6U)

467
I plug in my car the same way I plug in my phone so it's always charged.

USB cable?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 27, 2022 06:30 PM (63Dwl)

468 The problem is that they are unpredictable but the solution is to build massive battery packs.
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Right: https://tinyurl.com/3sja5ybw

Btw, a Tesla Powerwall battery (13.5KWh) is about $15,000, installed. It's good for about 10 years. There is simply no way that this is attractive for normal people.

Note that I haven't even mentioned PV panel costs or lifetimes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 27, 2022 06:30 PM (TIW4Q)

469
Have a great holiday weekend everyone. Yes, even you.

it was my turn to have a really shitty holiday weekend, and this loose lipped regular has gone and morally obligated me to have a good one.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (UgAdJ) - at May 27, 2022 06:30 PM (UgAdJ)

470 Everything is going up because of fuel. I bought the new floor for my dining room 2 weeks ago. 2 nights ago I went back to look at flooring for another room,and it was $1 a square foot more. Don't sound like much, but its a 600sq ft floor, so thats $600 more..in 1 week.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at May 27, 2022 06:31 PM (VwHCD)

471
If the ukraine farce continues, we might even see "zelensky '24" on twitter and on bumper stickers.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 27, 2022 06:31 PM (1mLtq)

472


nood FAT post

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 27, 2022 06:31 PM (1mLtq)

473 Yeah thats why I said that was the main problem. It would be in places that had open plains or very wide fields mostly. Definitely not town centers. The modern designs used giant hovercraft like skirts in a few areas along their bottom that would suck them down to the ground while unloading and loading was done. I can see the logistical problems sure. But it's a neat idea for global transports. I guess it would really replace cargo ships and ports more than trains and anything else.
Posted by: banana Dream, now 40% less explicit at May 27, 2022 06:29 PM (0fVbu)
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Could be very useful for transatlantic/transpacific shipping, assuming various engineering problems can be resolved, of course (no ideas what that might be, but I'm just assuming the problems are engineering, not physics)

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 27, 2022 06:31 PM (K5n5d)

474 You could have massive fleets of drones on your giant blimp that would disperse deliveries directly all over the city instead of the blimp ever landing. Just spitballin' here.

Posted by: banana Dream, now 40% less explicit at May 27, 2022 06:32 PM (0fVbu)

475 Anybody notice the media ain't naming names in Uvalde, the coward cops?

How many stood on that perimeter? More than a dozen?

Methinks the media wants to bury all this talk about the "first responders" not willing to be first. The conference calls have been made. Common sense gun safety is the narrative.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at May 27, 2022 06:32 PM (KiBMU)

476 >>Not one person seems to be interested in hearing from me about this, so I'll take the hint.

I have no problem with you owning an EV or a soapbox derby car if that's what you want. I do have a problem when you say we will all be better off when we are all forced to have one. I don't want one.

You do you, let me do me. As Grump said, if EVs were so wonderful we wouldn't need government forcing us to buy one.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 27, 2022 06:32 PM (ZLI7S)

477 Still waiting to hear where we get enough helium for giant blimps.

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at May 27, 2022 06:33 PM (qpX6U)

478 WEF : "sure, maybe several billion will die by cancelling oil/gas/coal, but we will be Green and save the planet"

unwashed questioner: "Green is a color, could you explain why billions should die for the color green?"

WEF: "No, shut up, guards, check his vax status"

Posted by: illiniwek at May 27, 2022 06:33 PM (Cus5s)

479 You left out the fun of restarting massive power plants for the grid.

You have to have some power plants with "black start" capability, and use them to slowly and incrementally get the grid back up.

Of course, if you've decided not to have any fossil-fueled plants, that's going to be a problem.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 27, 2022 06:33 PM (I2/tG)

480 Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 06:26 PM (57l0O

You haven't listen to anyone who advised you of all the problems that currently exist with EVs. People here have always acknowledged the positive aspects of an EV but because most here live in reality they can't ignore the huge limitations .



Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 27, 2022 06:33 PM (U3akT)

481 nood fat

Posted by: Hands at May 27, 2022 06:33 PM (786Ro)

482 >>>>>>I plug in my car the same way I plug in my phone so it's always charged.

>>>USB cable?

That's called a "partial cycle" and it's not good for your battery life. Again with the urban POV. Which is fine....Unless you don't like urban living.

Posted by: mikethemoose at May 27, 2022 06:33 PM (z/ZJG)

483 zelensky is the new fauci

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 most trusted name in news at May 27, 2022 06:29 PM (1mLtq)

He is the current thing and I support him. I would like to pleasure him. You are Russian. You are bad. You are Trump.

Posted by: NPC at May 27, 2022 06:34 PM (FIJ+3)

484 Note that I haven't even mentioned PV panel costs or lifetimes.

Posted by: Mike Hammer
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Yes, the fun of cleaning solar panels, the risk that they will suddenly short out and burn your house from cheap Chinese manufacturing processes, the loss of stored energy from inverters, etc.

I have wanted solar panels to work for decades since playing around with solar cells in the 80's but never could make the math work.

Posted by: whig at May 27, 2022 06:34 PM (Iq9dF)

485 There was a picture of a burning bus in Europe a couple days ago. I bet you can't guess what power the bus uses or did use.

Posted by: Colin at May 27, 2022 06:34 PM (TE7tS)

486 What people don't think about is enormity of scale when it comes to EV's or solar/wind for homes & businesses. It might work for one person or a family of four. What happens when 5,000 people need it at the same time?

Where do you put a 200 acre solar farm near a major downtown area for each building? Remember, those high rises HAVE to have every watt of power they currently use. No exceptions.
What's the line loss getting the juice to the building? What size battery room for a 50 story building?

Now that you've solved the problem for one build, multiply that for buildings of various sizes by the thousands.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 27, 2022 06:34 PM (c8pZY)

487 Still waiting to hear mr_jack answer the four polite questions in 443.

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at May 27, 2022 06:34 PM (qpX6U)

488 I'm happy to hear the case for electric vehicles. No need to be petulant about it. People get abused here. Rite of passage.

*

Heck, Rodrigo and I are friends and we're jabbing at each other, and on the next thread we'll be talking about how great some particular gun is. That's just how this place works.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 06:34 PM (sIl7T)

489 "Where do we get enough helium for those?"

Another lookout hydrogen?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at May 27, 2022 06:34 PM (1n+EO)

490 There was a picture of a burning bus in Europe a couple days ago. I bet you can't guess what power the bus uses or did use.
Posted by: Colin


There was one in France with four buses. At the same time.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 27, 2022 06:35 PM (c8pZY)

491 But it's a neat idea for global transports. I guess it would really replace cargo ships and ports more than trains and anything else.
Posted by: banana Dream, now 40% less explicit at May 27, 2022 06:29 PM (0fVbu)

US Army did a lot of work with blimps in the 30's. They dropped them because every time one got hit by a sudden unexpected storm, everybody on board died.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 27, 2022 06:36 PM (trdmm)

492 Electric cars make some sense if they remain in large cities for short daily commuter trips. I'll concede that. But their economics are false. I read a couple of years ago the carbon it takes to mine the minerals and manufacture the batteries crosses over with a gas car at around 300,000 miles.

And just recently, GM said no more replacement batteries for the Volt at any price, thus making the life cycle of the car decided at an artificial 10 years. Look around, how many cars do you see that are 10 years old or more? Well, eliminate all those people's rides under the Davos regime commands.

Not to mention the massive increase in the electrical grid needed, something like 40% - 45% of the ENTIRE grid today in order to charge them. Remember, the grid operates at 98% - 99% capacity and has for years.

Like others have said, electric cars are about controlling the population's ability to be mobile and independent. Very little to do with environmental issues, or basic economics.

Electric vehicles - Powered by COAL!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 27, 2022 06:37 PM (sy5kK)

493 How big a blimp would it take to put a 2 mile train of double stack containers worth of cargo on it. I don't doubt that it could be done, but it hasn't been. There's a reason. I expect it would be big. Where would you even park it?
Posted by: blaster at May 27, 2022 06:12 PM (9otr5)

The Empire State Building had a blimp docking platform on its upper floor.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 27, 2022 06:37 PM (U3akT)

494 Proof of a third Obama term. This is his 4th term.

ARREST OBAMA.

Posted by: ahem at May 27, 2022 06:37 PM (i0e4P)

495 Glad to have paid off and now own my low mileage 2019 Sentra SV, which gets as high as 45 - 48 mpg on the highway, 25-26 around town, on 87 octane.
Now if only the little darling didn't cost $50-$60 per fillup. And it won't be costing less any time soon.
F J B.

Posted by: Fritz at May 27, 2022 06:38 PM (dS5zT)

496 >>US Army did a lot of work with blimps in the 30's. They dropped them because every time one got hit by a sudden unexpected storm, everybody on board died.

Oh the huge manatee!

Posted by: JackStraw at May 27, 2022 06:38 PM (ZLI7S)

497 I'd be surprised the Uvalde cops see Xmas

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at May 27, 2022 06:39 PM (b+v9B)

498 Done waiting.

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at May 27, 2022 06:39 PM (qpX6U)

499 I've been looking for a Ruger Vaquero.357 5.5" in Stainless Steel for a couple of years now with no luck.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 27, 2022 05:04 PM


Same here, I want one to go with my stainless Rossi Model 92 in .357 magnum but zero luck.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at May 27, 2022 05:13 PM (bVYXr)

Eyeballing a Henry 357 side gate to pair with a SW 586L in the event things go Western. No chaps.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at May 27, 2022 06:40 PM (hKi6n)

500 Still waiting to hear where we get enough helium for giant blimps.
Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at May 27, 2022 06:33 PM (qpX6U)



They should be hot air, heated by atomic piles.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 27, 2022 06:40 PM (yQpMk)

501 490 What people don't think about is enormity of scale when it comes to EV's or solar/wind for homes & businesses. It might work for one person or a family of four. What happens when 5,000 people need it at the same time?

^^^^^THIS

I have solar power, haven't paid an electric bill in years but I'm no big fan of it. I bought it when the solar tax credit was 30%. I'd rather pile my money up and burn it than give it to Uncle Scam.

Posted by: They all look like nails to me at May 27, 2022 06:40 PM (cCxiu)

502 What people don't think about is enormity of scale when it comes to EV's or solar/wind for homes & businesses. It might work for one person or a family of four. What happens when 5,000 people need it at the same time?

**

You're starting to catch on.

They need you to provide the batteries for their wind and solar. That's what your car is for. You won't be allowed to separate it from the grid at peak times.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 06:42 PM (sIl7T)

503 Solar Highways I say...Its the future. All the sign, street lights, markers on the road will be lit. Isn't technology wonderful...They will work great if no one is allow to drive on them. Car and truck tires does wonders to solar panels.

Posted by: Colin at May 27, 2022 06:42 PM (TE7tS)

504 Open Letter certain Uvalde area law enforcement officers

Not all of you, but *most* of you fucked up, and fucked up badly. Because of this, an extreme body count of nineteen dead kids and two dead teachers was run up by the murderous scum, mostly by your allowance.

You were ordered to stand back, to stand down, you say? Bullshit. That's when you have *comms problems*, your *radio didn't work*, and you go in anyway. Your Sgt or the Lt tell you directly to not go in? That's when you cash in your career, tell him or her to fuck off, and go in, regardless. Kids were needlessly dying, the whole time you were "just following orders". That defense died at Nuringberg, and with it died every conceivable excuse you might offer.

My advice to you? Go find new L.E. jobs somewhere else in Texas. Texas offers plenty of "far away" for you, and you need to go far, far away. Even better, go to another State. Best? Get the fuck out of law enforcement, and take up pumping gas and wiping windshields. Sell your house, uproot your family, and just *go*.

You've lost all standing, honor and respect, anywhere Texan is spoken, forever.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 27, 2022 06:44 PM (QzJWU)

505 46 I have Electric Car Privilege and it's pretty great. And I'm scheduled to get solar panels on my house, and they will make enough power to run my car. I believe in electric cars!

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Why?

Cars run on fossil fuel are fantastic. They took the lead out of gas and gas was cheap and on every street corner. Most cars you can drive 3-4 hundred miles without stopping. The brilliance of dead organic material powering cars is unsurpassed.

We don't have the electrical energy output to power our homes and cars. That's a pipe dream.

No and no thank you.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 27, 2022 06:46 PM (DcKNO)

506 "
nood FAT post

"

FAT32 or exFAT ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - grateful for WWV ! at May 27, 2022 06:48 PM (+o2yA)

507 Maybe solar power and electric cars are an okay idea in Arizona. Maybe.

I live in Minnesota. As do several million other people.

How do we get around the fact that there's not much sunlight here? According to the U.S. Energy Information Administration, our state-mandated solar farms produce about 6% of their panel-rated capacity in the winter. And only 30% in the summer.

https://tinyurl.com/mnsolar

How bad is it? It's not cost-effective to push the snow off the panels in the winter. Better to just leave them idle until they thaw.

So, is anyone planning to tilt the planet on its axis so I don't freeze to death when coal power goes away? Maybe move our orbit closer to the sun?

Posted by: mikeski at May 27, 2022 06:49 PM (P1f+c)

508 gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses: Thank you for being more welcoming than the others. You didn't actively insult me!

"What's the required capacity required by an all-electric USA fleet? What's our current capacity?"

I don't know hard numbers, but let's work it this way. Electric vehicles can charge at night. I can plug my car in and it can either charge immediately or it can wait and charge on a schedule.

If everyone plugs their cars in during dinnertime when millions of electric stoves are heating up, during winter in places where there's lots of electric heat running, that might very well put a strain on the grid. If that becomes a problem, "time of use" pricing would encourage people to time-shift their charging. In the middle of the night, when the stoves are not running, would be a great time to charge the cars. And I'm getting solar.

"And do you actually own an electric car that you have actually driven 280 miles on one charge? If you do, what's the make and model?" I do, I have, and it's a Tesla Model S.

Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 06:50 PM (57l0O)

509 I bought it when the solar tax credit was 30%.
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Nothing personal. but that was an outright transfer of wealth from the have-nots, to the haves.

Some folks would regard that as immoral.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 27, 2022 06:53 PM (Fk2FG)

510 I'm still a tad confused at how a new Tesla that requires new parts, production, transportation, etc is "greener" than a five year old Honda Civic that requires no new manufacturing and will last for 250k miles.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the CEO of Moderna acknowledged the presence of patented sequence in Covid-19 at May 27, 2022 06:54 PM (c1p4Y)

511 I don't know hard numbers

Of course not. If you did, you wouldn't be on your side of the argument.

This was discussed here a month or so ago. The study showed that if 20% of the vehicles in the USA were electric, the power grid would collapse everywhere.

You need to build one new giant nuclear plant every week, for the next 20 years, and then you'll have the capacity you need. Solar and wind and other unicorn power won't cut it.

Electric vehicles can charge at night.

Using solar power, presumably.

Posted by: mikeski at May 27, 2022 06:55 PM (P1f+c)

512 514 I'm still a tad confused at how a new Tesla that requires new parts, production, transportation, etc is "greener" than a five year old Honda Civic that requires no new manufacturing and will last for 250k miles.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - the CEO of Moderna acknowledged the presence of patented sequence in Covid-19 at May 27, 2022 06:54 PM (c1p4Y)

Volume

Posted by: 29Victor at May 27, 2022 06:56 PM (BJKQV)

513 Also I think you summarized the entire "con" in one little sentence

"If that becomes a problem, "time of use" pricing would encourage people to time-shift their charging"

Need to drive somewhere when you need to? No. You can't. You can't charge it right now. It's too taxing on the grid.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the CEO of Moderna acknowledged the presence of patented sequence in Covid-19 at May 27, 2022 06:57 PM (c1p4Y)

514 JackStraw: "you say we will all be better off when we are all forced to have one." No, I never said that, and don't you put words in my mouth.

Here's what I said: "This is another thing where the free market will sort itself out over time with no help from government but it needs like a decade to happen, it's not ready now."

I also predicted that the price of gasoline would decline because so many fewer people will want to buy it, which ought to make you happy.

How dare you accuse me of wanting to force you to do anything? I don't even want to force you to be polite to me, or have a nice weekend.

Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 06:57 PM (57l0O)

515 If I'm going to pay more for electricity same as gas, I reckon I'll just stick with gas. At least I can do stuff using it.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the CEO of Moderna acknowledged the presence of patented sequence in Covid-19 at May 27, 2022 06:58 PM (c1p4Y)

516 83 "Angelis" is mort, too.

Chariots of Fire

Posted by: Ciampino at May 27, 2022 07:03 PM (qfLjt)

517 LeftCoast Dawg: "I read a couple of years ago the carbon it takes to mine the minerals and manufacture the batteries crosses over with a gas car at around 300,000 miles."

I'm not sure I believe in carbon dioxide global warming catastrophe, but if we assume it is, the above claim would be a problem if true.

Tesla did the math, and they said for a Model 3 or a Model Y the crossover is 6500 miles.

https://www.tesla.com/ns_videos/2020-tesla-impact-report.pdf

"GM said no more replacement batteries for the Volt" Solution: don't buy Government Motors.

"Not to mention the massive increase in the electrical grid needed" Charging the cars at night, when stoves aren't running, will make a big difference.

https://bit.ly/3lOCfeP

Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 07:10 PM (57l0O)

518 #513: "Need to drive somewhere when you need to? No. You can't. You can't charge it right now. It's too taxing on the grid."

Maybe you missed the part where I said my car has 280 miles of range every day because I keep it charged? I don't really care if it charges instantly, or in the middle of the night while I sleep; either way, the next day the car is ready to go with a 90% state of charge.

If you need to take a road trip, you will charge it when you need to. Most people, most of the time, wouldn't care if their car charges overnight when the grid is mostly idle.

Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 07:12 PM (57l0O)

519 Charging the cars at night, when stoves aren't running, will make a big difference.

With solar power, piped in from Australia.

Posted by: mikeski at May 27, 2022 07:20 PM (P1f+c)

520 "I don't know hard numbers, but let's work it this way"

You asserted that the grid would not "fry." Find some hard numbers on required total capacity and current total capacity, and get back to us.

Your 280 mile trip: How many passengers and how much cargo? Average speed? Time to recharge after the trip? I see the EPA estimated range is 400mi, which is indeed farther than I was aware.

I have no doubt that electric vehicles have a role to fulfill in the overall fleet, and even though I am a petroleum investor, I am not complacent about increasing anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions.

I have reasons to question: our readiness for rapid fleet conversion; the readiness of our "renewable" generating capacity; the notion that e-vehicles will markedly reduce GG emissions (since most of our electricity generation is non-renewable the GG emission impact of the manufacture of e-vehicles; and the stability of electricity prices in the face of full-scale e-vehicle demand.

Yes, people here are very mean. Gotta learn to live with that if you want to post comments here.

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at May 27, 2022 07:24 PM (qpX6U)

521 "if 20% of the vehicles in the USA were electric, the power grid would collapse everywhere."

Nope.

https://bit.ly/3lOCfeP

"[Electric cars can charge at night] Using solar power, presumably."

Sure! As long as there's enough battery storage backing it up. It will take a lot. It's getting built.

https://bit.ly/3PNldLz

I'm in favor of letting the power companies decide what they need to serve their customers. But where I live, the state legislature passed a law forcing the power companies to switch over to "green" technologies by 2040. I would be more worried about that if I thought it was impossible, but I'm pretty sure it is possible.

Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 07:26 PM (57l0O)

522 I am not complacent about increasing anthropogenic greenhouse gas emissions.

Me either, I am in favor of it.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at May 27, 2022 07:26 PM (yQpMk)

523 Maybe you missed the part where I said my car has 280 miles of range every day because I keep it charged? I don't really care if it charges instantly, or in the middle of the night while I sleep
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Yes, that was my point. Congratulations.

If you need it to charge when it can't, you're not driving.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 07:32 PM (sIl7T)

524 gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses: Here's a Forbes article with some numbers.

https://bit.ly/3lOCfeP

"Your 280 mile trip: How many passengers and how much cargo? Average speed? Time to recharge after the trip? I see the EPA estimated range is 400mi, which is indeed farther than I was aware."

mrs_jack and I drove to California to visit relatives. Average speed was the posted speed limit plus about 10%, so probably 66 MPH for most of the way and 77 MPH for the more isolated roads. We recharged as we went.

A Tesla recharges in about the time to eat a meal. So you want to travel during the day when restaurants are open. Drive for three or four hours, hook up the car, eat a meal, get back on the road. Done that way the charging is painless.

The home charger is good for 29 miles of range per hour. So once we got home, I hooked up the car and it charged while we slept and was back to 90% by morning.

My car is an older, used Model S; when it was brand new it was rated for 330 miles. It's six years old and still good for about 320 miles.

Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 07:33 PM (57l0O)

525 #523 "If you need it to charge when it can't, you're not driving."

I can charge my car whenever I want. Burden of proof is on you to prove that in the future this will change.

Oh noes, if everyone charges at once the grid will melt? Burden of proof is on you to prove that everyone would charge all at once.

Buy what you want. Drive what you want. I don't care. But if you want us to panic and say that the sky is falling, maybe you could scare up a link or something.

Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 07:36 PM (57l0O)

526 Nope. https://bit.ly/3lOCfeP

Forbes. Every engineer's go-to.

So even with those numbers, we only need 25% MORE capacity than we have now to add all these electric cars. With California browning out all summer already. See where I said "convert 20% of the fleet and everywhere browns out all year long" might make sense? Because it's, y'know, true?

And Forbes assumes everyone can charge their Teslas at exactly the right time to run the grid at 100% capacity 24/7/365. Once we've increased capacity by 25%. Or we increase capacity by far more than 25%, so that you can have your police or ambulance response when you need it, rather than waiting until tomorrow morning after their cars are charged.

And, again, we are getting less than 6% of rated solar capacity from our solar panel farms in a Minnesota winter. Only 30% in the summer. I guess only people who live near the tropics can have cars? Or we just continue referring to electric vehicles as "coal-fired cars," which they are, and will be for the foreseeable future.

Oh, and Canada is forked.

Posted by: mikeski at May 27, 2022 07:37 PM (P1f+c)

527 Thank you for the responses mr_jack!

Posted by: gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses at May 27, 2022 07:38 PM (qpX6U)

528 CNN last week:

"Extreme temperatures and ongoing drought could cause the power grid to buckle across vast areas of the country this summer, potentially leading to electricity shortages and blackouts, a US power grid regulator said Wednesday."

What we need is to double the total number of electric cars to 3% nationwide. Surely that will help.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 07:38 PM (sIl7T)

529 I can charge my car whenever I want. Burden of proof is on you to prove that in the future this will change.

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o_O

""If that becomes a problem, "time of use" pricing would encourage people to time-shift their charging""

Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 06:50 PM (57l0O)

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 07:39 PM (sIl7T)

530 Buy what you want. Drive what you want. I don't care. But if you want us to panic and say that the sky is falling, maybe you could scare up a link or something.

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Well said, my friend.

Well said.

Burden of proof and all that. No point at all in f*cking up a near-perfect system with established infrastructure for magic beans.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 07:41 PM (sIl7T)

531 #529 Okay, I'll spell it out for you.

If everyone charges at once, the grid overloads. Time of use pricing would encourage the majority of people to not do that. Then the grid would not overload, and the not overloaded grid would have capacity for people to charge when they like.

Plus, my own house will have solar, and I tend to do my longer trips in the summer when the solar makes the most power, so I personally will be able to charge even if the grid were down.

I don't have my own gasoline refinery so this is an advantage versus gas cars.

Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 07:46 PM (57l0O)

532 Sorry. It's over.

""If that becomes a problem, "time of use" pricing would encourage people to time-shift their charging""

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The Black family survived slavery but not welfare at May 27, 2022 07:47 PM (sIl7T)

533 mikeski: "we are getting less than 6% of rated solar capacity from our solar panel farms in a Minnesota winter. Only 30% in the summer. I guess only people who live near the tropics can have cars?"

In solar power there is this concept of "capacity factor". Every solar install has a "nameplate capacity" which is the most power it could make, and then you apply "capacity factor" to figure out how much it will actually make. Then you simply buy more solar panels so that they make a useful amount. They are getting cheaper every year.

The solar power system I am scheduled to get is predicted to make over 2500 kiloWatt-hours during summer months, and only 500 kWh during winter months. My house seems to need 1000 to 2000 kWh per month (including charging my car). I will still need grid power in the winter but will sell excess power in the summer. If the promised numbers are correct, I will net out paying nearly nothing for power in a given year.

I am expecting power prices to go up a lot, so I'm buying a solar system on a loan. I will pay the loan back in inflated dollars.

The above would work in most of the USA even better than it does for me.

Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 07:55 PM (57l0O)

534 >JackStraw: "you say we will all be better off when we are all forced to have one." No, I never said that, and don't you put words in my mouth.

Its pretty much exactly what you said.

>>The switchover to electric cars is happening fast and everyone will be better off when it's done. But right now it's brutal for the poorest people in our society and talk about how great electric cars will be when everyone has one doesn't help.

The only reason people, very few people for that matter, are switching over to EVs outside the true believers such as yourself who either don't know the facts or are being dishonest, is because the government is coercing people to do it.

They do not make either financial or practical sense other than a few outliers.

And don't tell me what to say.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 27, 2022 08:02 PM (ZLI7S)

535 #532 Unless you use the power of government to force people to avoid buying electric cars, the changeover is going to happen. Electric cars are cheaper to "fuel", cheaper to maintain, and cheaper to repair compared to an equivalent gas car. Once they are cheaper to buy, most people will want them.

So in the upcoming years we will find out if the grid can handle it or not. Doesn't matter what you think or what I think. I'm betting that the grid will not fry, just like the grid didn't fry when lots of houses started to have air conditioning.

Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 08:04 PM (57l0O)

536 JackStraw: The switchover to electric cars will happen fast once they cost less to buy than an equivalent gasoline car. That could be as soon as two years from now. (It's already true for some lousy Chinese models of electric cars.)

The changeover will be driven by individual consumers pursuing their own best interest. Government subsidies would make it happen even faster but aren't needed, because the costs of electric cars have been dropping on a steep curve and the free market is getting there on its own.

New technology adoption traditionally follows an "S-curve" and I believe electric cars will displace gas cars the same way gas cars displaced horse buggies. It will happen just as fast or faster.

So, to make it perfectly clear: I am not in favor of government forcing anyone to buy electric cars. I'm not even in favor of the CAFE standard forcing cars to be so "efficient" that it's impossible to meet the standard without going electric.

I trust that the above makes my position clear.

Posted by: mr_jack at May 27, 2022 08:13 PM (57l0O)

537 we shut down leases due to no interest.. We are not interested as you shut down drilling approval on our current leases so why should we waste money for denied approvals to drill. No drill, no oil, no money, means we do not give you money for more leases (WE CAN NOT USE)

Posted by: gov't here to help at May 27, 2022 08:26 PM (dhA95)

538 hope everyone gets electric cars they plug into their home so we can steal their battery power during the blackouts.

Posted by: gov't here to help at May 27, 2022 08:28 PM (dhA95)

539 #527 gp Sets In Motion Various Apparatuses:

You're welcome, and thanks for being the nicest person who responded to me.

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