Disaster for Democrats As Judge Strikes Down Their Highly Gerrymandered New York District Map

Democrats spent 2021 doing two things: 1, complaining piously about Republican congressional gerrymanders (a "gerrymander" being the redrawing of congressional district boundaries in a census year to favor one party or the other), and 2, drawing the most grotesquely partisan and bizarre gerrymander borders imaginable in the states they controlled, especially in New York State.

The map was so bizarrely gerrymandered it raised eyebrows all over the country.

Democrats had been counting on this masterpiece of non-Euclidean geometry to offset some of the pickups Republicans would see around the country.

Even the New York Times was a bit stunned by the Democrats' brazenness:

New York's new congressional map, redrawn by ruling Democrats, gives the party's candidates a clear leg up in nearly every corner of the state and could knock out as many as five Republican seats.
But when party leaders in Albany introduced the proposed lines on Sunday, many onlookers quickly seized on what seemed to be a singular example of mapmakers' partisan excess: a freshly drawn district now held by Representative Jerrold Nadler, a powerful Manhattan Democrat.
Indeed, with its serpentine shape, Mr. Nadler's reimagined district -- New York's 10th -- is almost comically contorted and overwhelmingly favors Democrats. It stretches 15 miles through 15 different State Assembly districts from Mr. Nadler's home on Manhattan's Upper West Side to Brooklyn, jumping over New York Harbor and making three sharp turns to take in small strips of Carroll Gardens and Boerum Hill, before broadening out to encompass all of Prospect Park, Borough Park and Bensonhurst.

By the way, if the current district also looks oddly-shaped -- well, that was also gerrymandered for the Democrats' benefit.

Baffled onlookers and partisans alike quickly dubbed it a "Jerrymander," playing off Mr. Nadler's name and the term long given to the practice of politicians drawing favorable political lines for their party's advantage.
Republicans, known for their own gerrymanders in other states, gleefully shared screen shots of the district to accuse Democrats of hypocrisy.
They were not alone. "This is why people don't trust politicians," wrote Pat Kiernan, a local morning news anchor on NY1, on Twitter. "And the Democrats have given up any high ground they had over Republicans on gerrymandering."

The map was also drawn in this crazy snake-like way to avoid a more natural map which would have the unwanted effect of pitting two long-serving Democrat hacks against each other -- Nadler of the Upper West Side vs. Carolyn Maloney of the Upper East Side.

But a judge threw out the map approved by hack corrupt governor Hochul as too bizarre and partisan to be legal, and substituted its own map.

The new map, drawn up by the court's special master, combines the Upper West Side and Upper East Side into a more geometrically sensible bloc. (Also ethnically uniform -- now it's almost all super-wealthy white ultra-liberal Karens, with some minority-dominated projects and student housing mixed in.)

And so Nadler will be forced to battle Maloney in a primary.

And also puts a lot more New York districts into play for Republicans throughout the state.

Democratic efforts to gerrymander New York's congressional districts in their favor backfired spectacularly on Monday -- forcing the party to eat its own for survival.
Three imperiled Republican seats appear to no longer be in jeopardy and one of two powerful New York Democrats will be out of a job, under new district maps unveiled Monday by a court-appointed expert.
US Rep. Nicole Malliotakis (R-Staten Island, Brooklyn) saw her district redrawn by special master Jonathan Cervas of Carnegie Mellon University to no longer include the heavily Democratic area of Park Slope, former Mayor Bill de Blasio's Brooklyn neighborhood.
Two other districts upstate that were configured by Democrats in what Republicans dubbed Gov. Kathy Hochul's "Hochulmander" were also redrawn by Cervas to remain more GOP-friendly.
And in a stunning move, Cervas redrew two districts represented by entrenched Democrats in a way that now pits House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler (D-Manhattan, Brooklyn) and House Oversight Committee Chairwoman Carolyn Maloney (D-Queens) against each other.
...

Democrats now outnumber Republicans, 19-8, in New York's congressional delegation, which is set to shrink by one due to changes in population nationwide
The gerrymandered districts were expected to boost the Democratic edge to 22-4 but Monday's proposed changes -- combined with widespread expectations of Republican gains in November -- could narrow it to 16-10 or less.

RedState points out that the Democrats were counting on the New York "Jerrymander" or "Hochulmander" for their national ambitions.

A court-ordered map in New York has been adopted, and it's lights out for Democrats heading into November. While the original Democrat map, which was struck down by the state's Supreme Court, had a likely outcome of 22 D-seats to 4-R seats, the new map puts as many as 12 seats in play for the GOP.

It seems unlikely the GOP would get many W's in NY, but just blocking the Democrats from picking up the seats they expected from the Jerrymander/Hochulmander is good enough, given the GOP expects a lot of W's elsewhere.

It's not all bad news for Democrats: Red Bill DiBlasio says he's going to run for Congress in the redrawn 10th district.

Posted by: Ace at 12:14 PM

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1 Noice

Posted by: ... at May 20, 2022 12:14 PM (BKgw3)

2 DeSantis won this battle in FL, in court, too.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at May 20, 2022 12:15 PM (QYPq3)

3 not sponge

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 12:15 PM (LvTSG)

4 Aw, how sad. That sounded sincere, right?

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 20, 2022 12:15 PM (DRSnL)

5 Also...

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Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at May 20, 2022 12:15 PM (QYPq3)

6 They were not alone. "This is why people don't trust politicians," wrote Pat Kiernan, a local morning news anchor on NY1, on Twitter. "And the Democrats have given up any high ground they had over Republicans on gerrymandering."

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He must be new to paying attention to politics.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 12:15 PM (LvTSG)

7 Whenever Democrats are caught dong something there's always a "but both sides". Always.

Posted by: ... at May 20, 2022 12:15 PM (BKgw3)

8 >>>2 DeSantis won this battle in FL, in court, too.

he did?

I didn't see that yet.

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 12:16 PM (0G13K)

9 It seems unlikely the GOP would get many W's in NY, but just blocking the Democrats from picking up the seats they expected from the Jerrymander/Hochulmander is good enough, given the GOP expects a lot of W's elsewhere.

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Also, NY is an expensive place to run ads. Really expensive.

They went from only token resistance to needing to defend, what, 10 seats? In NY?

That's tens of millions of dollars that needs to go right there instead of places like FL, GA, or TX. It's made the wipeout much worse, I think.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 12:17 PM (LvTSG)

10 FIRST!!!!!!!

Posted by: Dr. T at May 20, 2022 12:17 PM (tp+tP)

11 Nadler is putrid even for a D. You can tell every room he goes in has its pH changed forever.

Posted by: ... at May 20, 2022 12:19 PM (BKgw3)

12 11 Nadler is putrid even for a D. You can tell every room he goes in has its pH changed forever.
Posted by: ... at May 20, 2022 12:19 PM (BKgw3)

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Really, what would Congress be without his waddle?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 12:20 PM (LvTSG)

13 Based on the descriptions of the new re-districting map, it sounds like something I would have drawn up as a partisan Republican.

I assume there is zero chance that the special master is a partisan Republican.

Is it safe to conclude that the hyperventilating reports from the usual suspects are only highlighting the "random" negative aspects for Democrats, without mentioning any equivalent negative aspects for Republicans?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 20, 2022 12:20 PM (tkyK5)

14 >>>he did?

I didn't see that yet.

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 12:16 PM (0G13K)

I guess I should say, "Won this round." It'll obviously move up the system, but the court lifted the injunction, this morning.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at May 20, 2022 12:20 PM (QYPq3)

15 13 I assume there is zero chance that the special master is a partisan Republican.

Is it safe to conclude that the hyperventilating reports from the usual suspects are only highlighting the "random" negative aspects for Democrats, without mentioning any equivalent negative aspects for Republicans?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 20, 2022 12:20 PM (tkyK5)

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I think it's a panel of 10, five from each party.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 12:20 PM (LvTSG)

16 6 He must be new to paying attention to politics.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 12:15 PM

He is a Canadian who has been at NY1 for over 20 years. His sidekick in the morning show is supposedly Brian "Potatoe" Stelters "wife"

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 20, 2022 12:21 PM (qoLdL)

17 Laughing at the Nads!

Posted by: Axeman at May 20, 2022 12:21 PM (krQz2)

18 Stelter is married?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 20, 2022 12:21 PM (dNqv+)

19 That's OK - we stole about half-a-dozen House seats from red states through the Census fraud.

Posted by: Democrats In The Census Bureau! at May 20, 2022 12:22 PM (I2/tG)

20 So when will Brooklyn invade Manhattan?

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 20, 2022 12:22 PM (uia9V)

21 hiya

Posted by: JT at May 20, 2022 12:22 PM (arJlL)

22 12 Really, what would Congress be without his waddle?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 12:20 PM

I think Joey Soft Serve learned to shat his pants from Jerry.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 20, 2022 12:22 PM (qoLdL)

23 >>>18 Stelter is married?

not only that, he's married to a woman, and she has kids.

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 12:22 PM (0G13K)

24 BRAAAPPPP...

Step back when I walk into a room!

Posted by: Jerry "Anus" Nadler! at May 20, 2022 12:23 PM (I2/tG)

25 Stelter is married?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 20, 2022 12:21 PM (dNqv+)

To a woman?

Posted by: Dr. T at May 20, 2022 12:23 PM (tp+tP)

26 DeSantis's redistricting was months (?) ago regarding those crazy lines drawn all over northern FL.

He had them all done and compacted, logically, and it was approved IIRC.

Posted by: Scott_T at May 20, 2022 12:23 PM (2waQ7)

27 I particularly like those little areas tha look like combs. Must be some projects in those comb teeth.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 20, 2022 12:23 PM (iDcra)

28 Republicans, known for their own gerrymanders in other states, gleefully shared screen shots of the district to accuse Democrats of hypocrisy.

This is the problem: Republicans do the same stupid crap when they are in charge, and it weakens their case. If they'd not do this kind of ridiculous bullcrap themselves then they would have better moral and legal standing to attack Democrats for doing the same thing.

Its one of the stupidest, most ridiculous things political parties do, like a spoiled child. Nobody respects or likes this kind of sneaky cheating crap. But it always happens.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 12:24 PM (KZzsI)

29 Is it true that Capital aids carry a set of full-size oscillating fans around to "refreshen" a room after the Nads have been in it?

Posted by: Axeman at May 20, 2022 12:24 PM (krQz2)

30 The Dems in New York need to embrace the "non-partisan, independent redistricting commission" concept. They can hide their gerrymandered gains and claim "We didn't draw up the maps".

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at May 20, 2022 12:24 PM (TNyrE)

31 not only that, he's married to a woman, and she has kids.

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 12:22 PM (0G13K)

They're in danger

Posted by: ... at May 20, 2022 12:24 PM (s3CWF)

32 Gerrymandered? Or Jerry Nadlered?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at May 20, 2022 12:25 PM (hWaIR)

33 I think Joey Soft Serve learned to shat his pants from Jerry.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 20, 2022 12:22 PM (qoLdL)
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He definitely advised him to carry a second suit.

Posted by: Axeman at May 20, 2022 12:25 PM (krQz2)

34 >>>DeSantis's redistricting was months (?) ago regarding those crazy lines drawn all over northern FL.

He had them all done and compacted, logically, and it was approved IIRC.

Posted by: Scott_T at May 20, 2022 12:23 PM (2waQ7)

But earlier this week, a judge put an injunction against it and this morning another one lifted it. I think it was a different judge, but I'm not AtC.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at May 20, 2022 12:26 PM (QYPq3)

35 He definitely advised him to carry a second suit.
Posted by: Axeman

And wear a large cork

Posted by: Bruce at May 20, 2022 12:26 PM (TIA0Y)

36 Ending gerrymandering is essential so that voting districts are fairly laid out, and that voters can be assured that their vote counts!

Posted by: Dominion Is Looking Out For You at May 20, 2022 12:26 PM (qpX6U)

37 . If they'd not do this kind of ridiculous bullcrap themselves then they would have better moral and legal standing to attack Democrats for doing the same thing.

Its one of the stupidest, most ridiculous things political parties do, like a spoiled child. Nobody respects or likes this kind of sneaky cheating crap. But it always happens.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 12:24 PM (KZzsI)

Oh after the last 25 years I am well over the whole moral and legal standing thing. Couldn't care less. In fact it would be nice to see a little ruthlessness.

Posted by: ... at May 20, 2022 12:26 PM (s3CWF)

38 If you look at one of those photos taken of the US at night with all the cities and highways lit up... that's a pretty good representation of the nation's political distribution.

Most of those clusters of lights are the urban shitholes while huge swaths of the country are simply dotted with little specks.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 20, 2022 12:26 PM (BFigT)

39 What you get out of an "independent" committee is a bunch of people lying about their party affiliation.

There's just too much latent power lying on the table.

Posted by: Axeman at May 20, 2022 12:27 PM (krQz2)

40 He definitely advised him to carry a second suit.
Posted by: Axeman

And wear a large cork

Posted by: Bruce
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And a pants Otter to put the cork back in. Poor pants Otter

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 20, 2022 12:27 PM (iDcra)

41 Will no one think of the DC groundhogs?

Posted by: motionview, a National Divorcee at May 20, 2022 12:27 PM (kyWWM)

42 26. No. A state judge overturned it, implemented a different map, and refused a protective order while it is in appeal.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at May 20, 2022 12:27 PM (rBAkF)

43 He definitely advised him to carry a second suit.
Posted by: Axeman

And wear a large cork
Posted by: Bruce at May 20, 2022 12:26 PM (TIA0Y)
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Between uses, that cork has to be soaked.

Posted by: Axeman at May 20, 2022 12:27 PM (krQz2)

44 37 Oh after the last 25 years I am well over the whole moral and legal standing thing. Couldn't care less. In fact it would be nice to see a little ruthlessness.
Posted by: ... at May 20, 2022 12:26 PM (s3CWF)

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I'd be happier if more in politics was regarded as the spoils of war, up to and including those employed by the government.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 12:27 PM (LvTSG)

45 Democrats should sue!!! who should they sue? They Courts themselves, of course!

Posted by: Recep Erdogan at May 20, 2022 12:27 PM (trdmm)

46 Most of those clusters of lights are the urban shitholes while huge swaths of the country are simply dotted with little specks.
Posted by: Martini Farmer

I think that prefer to be called Mexican Americans

Posted by: Bruce at May 20, 2022 12:28 PM (TIA0Y)

47 I am feeling very nihilistic today... #KillThemAllAndLetGodSortThemOut #HIV2.0

Gay and bisexual men urged to look out for 'unusual rash' in monkeypox warning
twitter.com/DailyMailUK/status/1526668915388170242

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at May 20, 2022 12:28 PM (MFZ8i)

48 18 Stelter is married?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

He's a Sex Machine!

https://youtu.be/4Qqendp1kLE

This might be my favorite rap.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 20, 2022 12:28 PM (8Sqzu)

49 That cork is not just going to soak itself.

Posted by: Axeman at May 20, 2022 12:28 PM (krQz2)

50 Oh after the last 25 years I am well over the whole moral and legal standing thing.

That is the problem with being corrupt and scoffing at the law, after a while the other side starts to do the same thing. Its like the DOJ vs the Mafia: we can't stop them in the system so lets cheat a little and pass outrageously corrupt laws that help us win!

Its a difficult thing to resist, and I do understand the inclination. But the right thing to do is... always the right thing to do.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 12:28 PM (KZzsI)

51 What you get out of an "independent" committee is a bunch of people lying about their party affiliation.

There's just too much latent power lying on the table.

Posted by: Axeman
==

What on earth are you implying?

Posted by: California Non Partisan Redistricting Committee at May 20, 2022 12:29 PM (iDcra)

52
Willowed:

I have a recollection that a Finn who was a highly decorated SS trooper moved to the US Army after the war and became one of the most decorated Green Berets in Vietnam. I wish I could recall his name, because it was a helluva story.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at May 20, 2022 12:13 PM (kuuAI)

Larry Thorne
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 20, 2022 12:19 PM (n+4am)

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 20, 2022 12:29 PM (n+4am)

53 State appeals court reinstated DeSantis map this morning. Watch it go to the fed next.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at May 20, 2022 12:29 PM (rBAkF)

54 Whatever is bad for Nadler is very likely good for the rest of the known universe.

Posted by: klaftern at May 20, 2022 12:29 PM (taPSh)

55 Wasn't there some other chicanery involved in this besides the obvious gerrymander? Something about the Republicans all refusing to attend the redrafting meeting because of the absurdity of the map, and thus denying them quorum and leaving NYS with no legislative solution? Or am I conflating things?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2022 12:29 PM (DU+/6)

56 55 Wasn't there some other chicanery involved in this besides the obvious gerrymander? Something about the Republicans all refusing to attend the redrafting meeting because of the absurdity of the map, and thus denying them quorum and leaving NYS with no legislative solution? Or am I conflating things?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2022 12:29 PM (DU+/6)

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That's part of the story, yes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 12:30 PM (LvTSG)

57 I have said this before in the past, what I would love to see happen in NYS is for the office of Governor and Federal Senators not to be elected by popular vote but by an electoral college type system.

In 2020 President Trump won over 70% of the 62 counties that make up New York. Maybe it should be done for all States.

I wonder how the 2020 election would have turned out then?

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 20, 2022 12:30 PM (qoLdL)

58 I thought it was illegal to vote for Republicans, and it was illegal for Republicans to win office.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 20, 2022 12:30 PM (p+1gI)

59
Its a difficult thing to resist, and I do understand the inclination. But the right thing to do is... always the right thing to do.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
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The Russians that Stalin sent to the camps thought the same thing.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 20, 2022 12:30 PM (iDcra)

60 Special Master sounds so racist. Rheee!!

Recent law graduate with a pussy hat who will sue and sue and sue.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 20, 2022 12:30 PM (lz5hY)

61 Most of those clusters of lights are the urban shitholes while huge swaths of the country are simply dotted with little specks.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 20, 2022 12:26 PM (BFigT)
++++
That whole "Trump Ocean" vs "Clinton Archipelago" thing.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2022 12:30 PM (DU+/6)

62 Also, NY is an expensive place to run ads. Really expensive.

They went from only token resistance to needing to defend, what, 10 seats? In NY?

That's tens of millions of dollars that needs to go right there instead of places like FL, GA, or TX. It's made the wipeout much worse, I think.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 12:17 PM

Good point.

Also - your conclusion is just breaking my heart with sympathy for the plight of the Demoncrats!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 20, 2022 12:30 PM (tkyK5)

63 If they'd not do this kind of ridiculous bullcrap themselves then they would have better moral and legal standing to attack Democrats for doing the same thing.

Problem is, that wouldn't change a damned thing. Taking the "high ground" has gone the way of the dodo bird.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 20, 2022 12:31 PM (Xrfse)

64 Stelter is married?

not only that, he's married to a woman, and she has kids.
Posted by: ace

Those poor kids. Hopefully, they look like Mrs. Stelter's bull and not tater.

Posted by: Biergood at May 20, 2022 12:31 PM (FQWHA)

65 This isn't going to play well with the Hawaiian Judge.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 20, 2022 12:31 PM (R8uWY)

66 Ninny Janky-wits actually said that she was non-partisan.

Despite that somebody dug up a slew of cheerleading posts for Hillary in 2015 and 2016.

Posted by: Axeman at May 20, 2022 12:31 PM (krQz2)

67 >>> Those poor kids. Hopefully, they look like Mrs. Stelter's bull and not tater.
Posted by: Biergood at May 20, 2022 12:31 PM (FQWHA)

spuds

Posted by: banana Dream at May 20, 2022 12:31 PM (XlZ2m)

68 52 Yep. Thank you.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 20, 2022 12:32 PM (lz5hY)

69 The Russians that Stalin sent to the camps thought the same thing.

"The ends justify the means" is the argument of our foes, not ours. Believing that outcome is the only consideration is what led them to become what they are.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 12:32 PM (KZzsI)

70 What is this Democrat high ground to which the NYT refers?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at May 20, 2022 12:32 PM (eGTCV)

71 I like big butts and I cannot lie!

Posted by: Jerry "Anus" Nadler! at May 20, 2022 12:32 PM (I2/tG)

72 I think it's a panel of 10, five from each party.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with

Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 12:20 PM

So Republicans actually got a fair shake?

No wonder I was shocked by the results!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 20, 2022 12:32 PM (tkyK5)

73 Its a difficult thing to resist, and I do understand the inclination. But the right thing to do is... always the right thing to do.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 12:28 PM (KZzsI)

On paper. But war is a different animal.

Posted by: ... at May 20, 2022 12:32 PM (ntcFS)

74 But earlier this week, a judge put an injunction against it and this morning another one lifted it. I think it was a different judge, but I'm not AtC.
Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at May 20, 2022 12:26 PM (QYPq3)

The case in Florida is really about which court can impose its will (Circuit Court? Appeals Court? State Supreme Court?) and who is willing to do so in time for the election this November. That's why it's hard to follow; it's ony partially about the voting districts, and mainly about Who Run Bartertown.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 20, 2022 12:33 PM (trdmm)

75 70 What is this Democrat high ground to which the NYT refers?
Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at May 20, 2022 12:32 PM (eGTCV)

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The narrative that Republicans are nasty gerrymanderers and Democrats are pure as the driven snow, only interested in accurately reflecting the population in the House of Representatives.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 12:33 PM (LvTSG)

76 I told you I didn't have Hidden Penis syndrome....

Posted by: Brian Stelter at May 20, 2022 12:33 PM (iDcra)

77 Wait...Monkeypox is a gay thing? Dare I ask how this got started?

Posted by: Wally at May 20, 2022 12:33 PM (FJYfm)

78 But war is a different animal.

War is an evil we're driven to by an even greater evil, but political infighting is not war.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 12:33 PM (KZzsI)

79 >>> Ninny Janky-wits actually said that she was non-partisan.

Despite that somebody dug up a slew of cheerleading posts for Hillary in 2015 and 2016.
Posted by: Axeman at May 20, 2022 12:31 PM (krQz2)

She supports the entire range of political ideals from socialists on the right all the way to stalinists on the left.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 20, 2022 12:33 PM (XlZ2m)

80 So Republicans actually got a fair shake?

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That's voter suppression!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 20, 2022 12:33 PM (FVME7)

81 A court-ordered map in New York has been adopted, and it's lights out for Democrats heading into November. While the original Democrat map, which was struck down by the state's Supreme Court, had a likely outcome of 22 D-seats to 4-R seats, the new map puts as many as 12 seats in play for the GOP.

Nice to see some good news on this front. NC's redistricting will see a change from 10-3 R's to 7-6 R's. Paying for our grandfathers mistakes from 60 years ago. *spit

Posted by: Deep State 910 at May 20, 2022 12:33 PM (aX0CW)

82 Problem is, that wouldn't change a damned thing. Taking the "high ground" has gone the way of the dodo bird.

Tit-for-tat is the optimal game theory strategy.

Posted by: Science! at May 20, 2022 12:33 PM (I2/tG)

83 Oh great. So I guess I'm still in that fat bloated pants-shitting toad's district. Assuming he wins the primary, which he probably will. Oh happy day! The only "good news" is that by effectively consolidating all the wealthy upper west and upper east into one district, it has created a powerful political block of NIMBY Karens to keep out the unwanted peasants, criminals, and undesirable developments (homeless shelters, prisons, etc).

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 20, 2022 12:33 PM (iFTx/)

84 74. State appeals court reinstated DeSantis ’ map this morning. Dems will try to go right for the Feds.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at May 20, 2022 12:34 PM (rBAkF)

85 72 So Republicans actually got a fair shake?

No wonder I was shocked by the results!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 20, 2022 12:32 PM (tkyK5)

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The Republicans refused to show up after the first map got rejected by the state legislature, meaning there was no legal method for a new map to be drawn. The state court took it upon itself to draw a new map since the state constitutional amendment had no provision for what happened in that case.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 12:34 PM (LvTSG)

86 not only that, he's married to a woman, and she has kids.

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 12:22 PM

Yes ace, but I notice you purposefully left out mention of the actual biological father of said children!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 20, 2022 12:34 PM (tkyK5)

87 Its a difficult thing to resist, and I do understand the inclination. But the right thing to do is... always the right thing to do.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 12:28 PM (KZzsI)
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It isn't effective and results in defeat. Basic game theory proves this out time and time again. When hit, you hit back (tit-for-tat). If two players at a table and one follows the rules and the other cheats and both players discover that about each other (this is the situation we are largely in), if the rule-abiding player continues to play by the rules, he will lose. 100% of the time. The rule-abiding player must either quit the game, or punch the cheating player in the nose until he cuts it out, or he needs to start cheating. Any of those approaches *might* result in parity, but continuing to play by the rules *will* result in defeat. Every time.

And this victory is, in a way, the "quit the game" approach. The Republicans refused to participate in the quorum, which in part led to this being handled in the courts.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2022 12:34 PM (DU+/6)

88 Explain to the folks at home what a gerrymander is.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 20, 2022 12:34 PM (Zf0+a)

89 Wait...Monkeypox is a gay thing? Dare I ask how this got started?
Posted by: Wally

Damn gay monkees, of course.

Posted by: Bruce at May 20, 2022 12:34 PM (TIA0Y)

90 GONORRHEA > MITCH MCCONNELL
Posted by: MONSTER UNIVERSE MITT ROMNEY at May 20, 2022 12:33 PM (1IJnB)

This is proof of the "Broken Clock, Twice a Day" thing.

Posted by: Wally at May 20, 2022 12:34 PM (FJYfm)

91 Add your name today

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 20, 2022 12:35 PM (63Dwl)

92

The only people that are bigger cunts than New Yorkers are New Jerseyians. They can all go horsefuck, save, of course, certain select individuals.

Posted by: Suka Mydicka at May 20, 2022 12:35 PM (S/GqB)

93 So I imagine fat Jerry wears out shoe leather walking his district.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at May 20, 2022 12:35 PM (eGTCV)

94 Democrats blatantly violated the state constitution, hence the courts ruling. Even they couldn't escape the clearly obvious subversion this map represented.

To produce this map Democrats completely ignored a constitutionally mandated process that required a bipartisan commission to redraw districts. That process was created through a statewide ballot issue which the citizens voted on, overwhelmingly approved and amended the state constitution to codify. Democrats simply ignored any input from Republicans and steamrolled the process, hoping one of their hacks posing as a judge would save them. Nope, even they knew that approving this would completely undermine what little credibility they already have.

Posted by: Marcus T, Deus Vult at May 20, 2022 12:35 PM (mSy8I)

95 Wait...Monkeypox is a gay thing? Dare I ask how this got started?
Posted by: Wally

Damn gay monkees, of course.
Posted by: Bruce at May 20, 2022 12:34 PM (TIA0Y)

Is this what killed Mike Nesmith?

Posted by: Wally at May 20, 2022 12:35 PM (FJYfm)

96 not only that, he's married to a woman, and she has kids.
Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 12:22 PM (0G13K)

I see what you did there.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 20, 2022 12:35 PM (DRSnL)

97 And this victory is, in a way, the "quit the game" approach. The Republicans refused to participate in the quorum, which in part led to this being handled in the courts.

That would be called "using the rules to fight against a corrupt and cheating foe" not "cheating as well to accomplish a goal"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 12:35 PM (KZzsI)

98 NY Post is saying 2 in 10 Americans think the country is headed in the right direction.
(https://tinyurl.com/48wha32a)

Who the hell are these 2 people, and will the Morons closest to them please knock some sense into them?

Posted by: 496 at May 20, 2022 12:35 PM (VJsqe)

99 If they'd not do this kind of ridiculous bullcrap themselves then they would have better moral and legal standing to attack Democrats for doing the same thing.
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You always have to make questionable decisions when redistricting. It's the spoils that go to the winning party. For a long time people have realized that 1) the committee has to be selected by a group of laws, 2) the committee has to be able to make its decisions, despite there having been alternatives that might be argued to be optimal (but just argued). And influence will probably distort some of this.

It's just that recently, the Democrats, the remarkable special-pleaders that they are, argued that Republican-led redistricting was especially odious, and they could put their "Certified Racist" stamp on it.

It's just like know how all of a sudden Florida is the only state that refuses textbooks ("censors" them to the illiterate left), because they think that makes a good argument.

Posted by: Axeman at May 20, 2022 12:36 PM (krQz2)

100 The GOP will win the House, by a lot. Just not worried, but this makes it even better.

It's the Senate I'm worried about and my fear is we're going to have some retard candidates that "should" win in this cycle but are just going to be a bridge too far for even pissed off voters.

I remember in 2010 losing a lot of races because we fielded dingbats.

Posted by: Blago at May 20, 2022 12:36 PM (STGfL)

101 Governor had almost no role in the prior district map process. This was all NYS legislature violating the NYS Constitution when it re-drew the map in 2020. The Legislature conceded in their papers before the NY Court of Appeals that they violated the state constitution when it adopted the prior map. It was never an issue.

This is at least the second time since 2000 that the courts in New York (the earlier time was a federal court and this time a state court) have had to impose a district map because gerrymandering.

Posted by: Penfold at May 20, 2022 12:36 PM (Fbt5B)

102 Bill DiBlasio says he's going to run for Congress in the redrawn 10th district.

Well, the 10th district does look like a penis, so perfect.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 20, 2022 12:36 PM (lgeFv)

103 Gerrymandered? Or Jerry Nadlered?

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at May 20, 2022 12:25 PM (hWaIR)

Those poor districts.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 20, 2022 12:36 PM (SH2Zi)

104 98 NY Post is saying 2 in 10 Americans think the country is headed in the right direction.

The media is clearly not doing enough to get the Biden message out.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at May 20, 2022 12:36 PM (eGTCV)

105 not only that, he's married to a woman, and she has kids.
Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 12:22 PM (0G13K)

I see what you did there.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 20, 2022 12:35 PM (DRSnL)
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I don't think ace is a biologist.

Posted by: Axeman at May 20, 2022 12:36 PM (krQz2)

106 Gay and bisexual men urged to look out for 'unusual rash' in monkeypox warning
twitter.com/DailyMailUK/status/1526668915388170242
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at May 20, 2022 12:28 PM (MFZ8i)

As opposed to a usual rash?

Posted by: Diogenes at May 20, 2022 12:37 PM (anj39)

107 War is an evil we're driven to by an even greater evil, but political infighting is not war.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 12:33 PM (KZzsI)

One side is treating it like war. Inflicting many, many actual casualties. That makes it a war whether we like it or not.

Posted by: ... at May 20, 2022 12:37 PM (ntcFS)

108 10 FIRST!!!!!!!

Posted by: Dr. T at May 20, 2022 12:17 PM (tp+tP)

You ain't no Sponge...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 12:37 PM (ynpvh)

109
Wait...Monkeypox is a gay thing? Dare I ask how this got started?
Posted by: Wally

Damn gay monkees, of course.
Posted by: Bruce

Here they come eating some bush meat.
They get the funniest looks from every one they meet.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 20, 2022 12:37 PM (63Dwl)

110 LOL.

The CPAC meeting in Budapest denied press credentials to all the usual suspects.

Rolling Stone is really upset.

They were told that they could sit in their hotel in Budapest and watch the livestream.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 20, 2022 12:37 PM (I2/tG)

111 Step back when I walk into a room!
Posted by: Jerry "Anus" Nadler! at May 20, 2022 12:23 PM (I2/tG)

***

You don't 'walk' anywhere. Waddle is more precise

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at May 20, 2022 12:37 PM (flINI)

112 New York deserves what it gets and then some.

That Cruella-looking hag governor has an actual necklace that says "Vaxxed"

To quote Val Kilmer in "Red Planet" :

FUCK THIS PLANET

Posted by: Tasty Burger at May 20, 2022 12:37 PM (N/oGZ)

113 >>>Yes ace, but I notice you purposefully left out mention of the actual biological father of said children!

i'm a Real Journalist; I only report what I can confirm.

I do not speculate about things which seem unlikely or just plain silly to me, like Brian Stelter impregnating a woman in her Dirty Sexbin.

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 12:37 PM (0G13K)

114 You always have to make questionable decisions when redistricting.

I think a more accurate way to say that is that you have to make calls when its not a clear answer one way or another.

But there's a huge difference between "the way this area is laid out we have to make a funny line" and "lets game the system entirely and make a map that looks like the one in the post". A difference that is not challenging to recognize and handle ethically and reasonably.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 12:37 PM (KZzsI)

115 98 NY Post is saying 2 in 10 Americans think the country is headed in the right direction.
(https://tinyurl.com/48wha32a)

Who the hell are these 2 people, and will the Morons closest to them please knock some sense into them?
Posted by: 496

2 in 10 Americans like watching the world burn.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 20, 2022 12:38 PM (8Sqzu)

116 State appeals court reinstated DeSantis ’ map this morning. Dems will try to go right for the Feds.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at May 20, 2022 12:34 PM

SCOTUS has already ruled that any redistricting stuff belongs to the the State and gerrymandering is OK if the State says it is.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at May 20, 2022 12:38 PM (bVYXr)

117 Gerrymandering is a bs term.

Few things are more political than drawing election districts. Of course the party in power is going to draw them to favor themselves. And they always do. It's politics at its essence.

The bad thing is being so brazen about it as the Dems were in the NY case.

But generally, the term gerrymandering is used by hypocrites to gin up hysteria among the ignorant sheep.

Posted by: Ultra MAGA Venus at May 20, 2022 12:38 PM (YVBLw)

118 111 Step back when I walk into a room!
Posted by: Jerry "Anus" Nadler! at May 20, 2022 12:23 PM (I2/tG)

***

You don't 'walk' anywhere. Waddle is more precise

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at May 20, 2022 12:37 PM (flINI)

I think he's on a roll.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 12:38 PM (ynpvh)

119 One side is treating it like war. Inflicting many, many actual casualties. That makes it a war whether we like it or not.

When the other side wants to see you dead, "that's not who we are" ceases to be a viable strategy.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 20, 2022 12:38 PM (I2/tG)

120 Do Nadler's high-ridin' pants cover his nipples?

Posted by: 496 at May 20, 2022 12:38 PM (VJsqe)

121 116. Some judges do not care. Surprising, I know.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at May 20, 2022 12:38 PM (rBAkF)

122 Who the hell are these 2 people, and will the Morons closest to them please knock some sense into them?
Posted by: 496 at May 20, 2022 12:35 PM (VJsqe)

Cloward and Piven?

Posted by: Mainah at May 20, 2022 12:39 PM (B+qrE)

123 The GOP will win the House, by a lot.
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And they will do jack shit other than maybe censure MTG and pass a bunch of shit they know will never go anywhere. And work against the 2024 R candidate if he is MAGA.

Posted by: ... at May 20, 2022 12:39 PM (ntcFS)

124 DeBlasio has to go to washington to fix all off the problems in NY caused by the failed policies of the previous mayor.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 20, 2022 12:39 PM (R8uWY)

125 I don't have a problem with the GOP doing some revenge gerrymandering, to send a message to the Democrats that this is why you don't do that sort of thing.

The problem is that Republicans' hands weren't clean to begin with, and the Establishment-Media Complex will bang on that theme all day long; and it'll be easy to persuade a lot of voters that the GOP's no better.

If possible, we ought to try to set a better example. But as a political reality, it may not be possible.

Posted by: Dr. T at May 20, 2022 12:39 PM (tp+tP)

126 111 Step back when I walk into a room!
Posted by: Jerry "Anus" Nadler! at May 20, 2022 12:23 PM (I2/tG)
***
You don't 'walk' anywhere. Waddle is more precise
Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at May 20, 2022 12:37 PM (flINI)

"That's not where you put the potato"--old punchline

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 12:39 PM (ynpvh)

127 I don't think ace is a biologist.
Posted by: Axeman at May 20, 2022 12:36 PM (krQz2)

Maybe what we need in this case isn't a biologist, but a botanist?

Posted by: Thrawn at May 20, 2022 12:39 PM (Rl7KJ)

128 One side is treating it like war. Inflicting many, many actual casualties. That makes it a war whether we like it or not.

At most its like a gangland battle with a few people being killed by Democrats, not tanks and bombs and troops. I mean, I get the metaphor Brietbart meant by "war" but he didn't mean it literally was war.

That gangland equivalence goes a lot deeper than people may realize. The government is being run like a crime family almost exactly copying the system of the Mafia.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 12:40 PM (KZzsI)

129 Democrats blatantly violated the state constitution, hence the courts ruling. Even they couldn't escape the clearly obvious subversion this map represented.

The problem is that there are no objective metrics as to what constitutes a reasonable district. It's all somebody's subjective preference. This won't stop until a computer draws the districts. I hear a company named Dominion can handle it.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 20, 2022 12:40 PM (ZsR3z)

130 113 >>>Yes ace, but I notice you purposefully left out mention of the actual biological father of said children!

i'm a Real Journalist; I only report what I can confirm.

I do not speculate about things which seem unlikely or just plain silly to me, like Brian Stelter impregnating a woman in her Dirty Sexbin.
Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 12:37 PM (0G13K)

Damnit, comment went to wrong place.
"That's not where you put a potato"--old punchline

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 12:40 PM (ynpvh)

131
That kid is hugging Bill to make him feel better after he couldn't read the Dick and Jane book his campaign flack handed him.

Posted by: What a maroon at May 20, 2022 12:40 PM (o0I+B)

132 The new map lays out the boundaries of the Ultra MAGA Kingdom.

Posted by: Roy at May 20, 2022 12:40 PM (Ti+Tv)

133 Turns out the Democrat Party was always the Washington Generals. The GOP, unfortunately, has always been the retarded equipment manager and his four finger-sniffing friends.

Posted by: Goobertrotter at May 20, 2022 12:40 PM (TKZuJ)

134 117 The bad thing is being so brazen about it as the Dems were in the NY case.

But generally, the term gerrymandering is used by hypocrites to gin up hysteria among the ignorant sheep.
Posted by: Ultra MAGA Venus at May 20, 2022 12:38 PM (YVBLw)

========

The bad thing isn't that they were brazen, but that the state constitution outlined a specific process and set of criteria to be followed, and the NY state legislature dismissed all of that to draw maps in violation.

If those specific rules were not in place, I'd have little moral issue with NY going haywire with their maps. If the NY GOP wants to cede everything to Democrats for decades because they hate conservatives more than they hate Democrats, then they can reap that reward.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 12:40 PM (LvTSG)

135 Nadler is short enough for a career as a thoroughbred jockey. Poor horse.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 20, 2022 12:40 PM (lz5hY)

136 This obviously means this judge will now require extra protection as the harassment, intimidation and death threats will commence outside their house.

Posted by: Lady in Black at May 20, 2022 12:41 PM (sVtYq)

137 As opposed to a usual rash?

Heh. I was about to post something similar.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 20, 2022 12:41 PM (Xrfse)

138 The new map lays out the boundaries of the Ultra MAGA Kingdom.

Pfffft. That's so last week. The new threat is HYPER MAGA!

Posted by: Archimedes at May 20, 2022 12:41 PM (ZsR3z)

139 135 Nadler is short enough for a career as a thoroughbred jockey. Poor horse.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 20, 2022 12:40 PM (lz5hY)

You do know that jockeys have weight limits...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 12:41 PM (ynpvh)

140
but political infighting is not war.

You sure about that?

Posted by: Zombie Carl von Clausewitz at May 20, 2022 12:41 PM (n+4am)

141 Ask 100 Democrats what is gerrymandering, 95 will say it’s when Republicans draw maps to keep brown and black people from getting fair representation.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 20, 2022 12:41 PM (wSIcO)

142 >>> Add your name today
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 20, 2022 12:35 PM (63Dwl)

banana + Dream = @`dal

Posted by: banana Dream at May 20, 2022 12:41 PM (XlZ2m)

143 113 >>>Yes ace, but I notice you purposefully left out mention of the actual biological father of said children!

i'm a Real Journalist; I only report what I can confirm.

I do not speculate about things which seem unlikely or just plain silly to me, like Brian Stelter impregnating a woman in her Dirty Sexbin.

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 12:37 PM

Too bad that you have principles, as does the Moron Horde, otherwise people would make copious comments about Tater's low-T lifestyle!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 20, 2022 12:41 PM (tkyK5)

144 If anyone wonders, it is very unlikely that Federal Courts will be involved in either the Florida or NY redistricting cases. In its recent decisions on the topic, the SCOTUS has been quite adamant that these are State Law questions and should be decided by State Courts.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 20, 2022 12:42 PM (trdmm)

145 Under Oregon's new Democratic-written Congressional map, four of the six Congressional districts contain part of Portland.

Have to make sure that the Portland crazies have an impact on as many districts as possible.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 20, 2022 12:42 PM (I2/tG)

146 When the other side wants to see you dead, "that's not who we are" ceases to be a viable strategy.

My concern is that if you adopt the mindset, tactics, and worldview of the enemy, then you will, in time, become like them. They didn't get this way by intentional device, they became this way by abandoning all goodness, truth, justice, honor, and ethics.

Its by taking the "any means to an end" approach that they became what they are today, and so will we, if we do the same thing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 12:42 PM (KZzsI)

147 NY Post is saying 2 in 10 Americans think the country is headed in the right direction.

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Bigger surprise:

Those drops were concentrated among Democrats, with just 33% within the president's party saying the country is headed in the right direction, down from 49% in April.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 20, 2022 12:42 PM (FVME7)

148 138 The new map lays out the boundaries of the Ultra MAGA Kingdom.

Pfffft. That's so last week. The new threat is HYPER MAGA!

Posted by: Archimedes at May 20, 2022 12:41 PM (ZsR3z)

I'll wait for Untra Hyper Mega MAGA.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 12:42 PM (ynpvh)

149 139 You do know that jockeys have weight limits...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 12:41 PM

WEIGHT SHAMER!!!!!!

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 20, 2022 12:42 PM (qoLdL)

150 Dirty Sexbin

Cum Gutter

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at May 20, 2022 12:43 PM (hWaIR)

151 The GOP will win the House, by a lot.

cool. looking forward to more amnesty bills

Posted by: brak at May 20, 2022 12:43 PM (j5Tg0)

152 If anyone wonders, it is very unlikely that Federal Courts will be involved in either the Florida or NY redistricting cases. In its recent decisions on the topic, the SCOTUS has been quite adamant that these are State Law questions and should be decided by State Courts.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 20, 2022 12:42 PM (trdmm)
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Will NY's ultimate State Court rule in favor of the Democrats?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 20, 2022 12:43 PM (YIVH2)

153 Look Fat, there's a reason all good men's suits come with two pairs of pants. Not a joke, not hyperbole.

Posted by: Head Pants Shitter at May 20, 2022 12:43 PM (PIlQh)

154 I know you have to account for population, but everytime I see these districts it seems pretty obvious how they should be laid out, but politics is politics. My previous own district had a "flag pole" that reached clear across the city. Those people over there had nothing in common with us as far as a congressman would represent.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 20, 2022 12:43 PM (lgeFv)

155 So Mordor is now part of Gondor?

Posted by: Dildo Nutbaggins at May 20, 2022 12:43 PM (TKZuJ)

156 This is exciting news. Obamacare will so totally be repealed now. And NPR will be defunded. And a wall will be funded. And what else, oh yeah abortion will be banned, and national gun CCW will be a thing. I cant wait.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 20, 2022 12:43 PM (wSIcO)

157 The Democrat media budget for advertising is going to need to get a whole lot bigger.

Unless the outlets will subsidize them. They might, but that might manage to be too egregious an FTC violation.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2022 12:43 PM (DU+/6)

158 157 The Democrat media budget for advertising is going to need to get a whole lot bigger.

Unless the outlets will subsidize them. They might, but that might manage to be too egregious an FTC violation.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 20, 2022 12:43 PM (DU+/6)

=========

I respect you greatly, Joe (definitely a cop), but you totally stole from me by not reading all the comments first.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 12:44 PM (LvTSG)

159
Under Oregon's new Democratic-written Congressional map, four of the six Congressional districts contain part of Portland.

Have to make sure that the Portland crazies have an impact on as many districts as possible.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 20, 2022 12:42 PM (I2/tG)

The Oregon congressional map must look like a Japanese Battle Flag.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 20, 2022 12:44 PM (n+4am)

160 150 Dirty Sexbin

Cum Gutter

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at May 20, 2022 12:43 PM (hWaIR)

From a discussion some days ago regarding the Latin word for sheath, someone came up with cock holster.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 12:44 PM (ynpvh)

161 Ask 100 Democrats what is gerrymandering, 95 will say it’s when Republicans draw maps to keep brown and black people from getting fair representation.

But the secret to a successful Republican gerrymander is to carve out as many minority districts as possible, and pack the D's into those districts.

Then make the districts in the rest of the state 55 R/ 45 D.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 20, 2022 12:44 PM (I2/tG)

162 The GOP will win the House, by a lot.
===
And your point would be . . .

Posted by: Seinfeld at May 20, 2022 12:45 PM (YNRQw)

163 71 I like big butts and I cannot lie!
Posted by: Jerry "Anus" Nadler! at May 20, 2022 12:32 PM (I2/tG)

Butts and guts it seems.

Posted by: Clutch at May 20, 2022 12:45 PM (9UmRs)

164 One of the hardest things to do when faced with evil and injustice is to be patient. In time, all such systems and governments collapse, its just rough to live through them while they are active. We are properly called to fight against evil and to oppose injustice, but we should not stoop as low as our foes and lose sight of what we're trying to accomplish.

In frustration and outrage it is easy to focus on the evil of our enemy and the need to defeat them at the expense of the very principles and ideals we are fighting for.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 12:45 PM (KZzsI)

165 Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 20, 2022 12:43 PM (wSIcO)

Nobody here actually believes that or has said that, Joe,but thanks for your update.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 20, 2022 12:45 PM (Ut+C0)

166 In its recent decisions on the topic, the SCOTUS has been quite adamant that these are State Law questions and should be decided by State Courts.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 20, 2022 12:42 PM (trdmm)

And that is retarded. If a state wants to fuck with its districts for state offices, whatever. It only affects that state. But for federal seats, what happens in NY affects people in UE other 56 states as well. Could NY just issue a law that every seat will be Democrat? I means it’s state law right?

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 20, 2022 12:46 PM (wSIcO)

167 Nadler could, you know, retire. Enjoy life. Walk his potbelly pig and drink grappa at the cafe.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 20, 2022 12:46 PM (R8uWY)

168
This is exciting news. Obamacare will so totally be repealed now. And NPR will be defunded. And a wall will be funded. And what else, oh yeah abortion will be banned, and national gun CCW will be a thing. I cant wait.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 20, 2022 12:43 PM (wSIcO)

Oh, sarcasm. That is SO cool.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 20, 2022 12:46 PM (n+4am)

169 This is exciting news. Obamacare will so totally be repealed now. And NPR will be defunded. And a wall will be funded. And what else, oh yeah abortion will be banned, and national gun CCW will be a thing. I cant wait.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 20, 2022 12:4

Woo hoo!!

Oh wait…sarcasm. Dang

Posted by: LASue at May 20, 2022 12:46 PM (mg8IF)

170 162 The GOP will win the House, by a lot.
===
And your point would be . . .
Posted by: Seinfeld at May 20, 2022 12:45 PM (YNRQw)

========

That the GOPe will do nothing of consequence for 2 years except yell at low level flunkies, offering no national agenda, and ceding the entire platform to whomever does have a national voice to offer up conservative solutions.

You know, Trump. The GOPe doing nothing just leads to a stronger Trump.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 12:46 PM (LvTSG)

171 The problem is that there are no objective metrics as to what constitutes a reasonable district. It's all somebody's subjective preference. This won't stop until a computer draws the districts. I hear a company named Dominion can handle it.
Posted by: Archimedes

****

There are a few objective metrics -- compactness (minimum distance between all parts of voters in district), natural boundaries (rivers, etc.), commonality of interests (i.e., urban v. rural v. suburbs), continuity (all parts of district are connected at some point with rest of district) and preservation of core of prior district.

NY's map that the court tossed broke all of them.

Posted by: Ultra MAGA Venus at May 20, 2022 12:47 PM (YVBLw)

172 The GOP will win the House, by a lot.

God willing, and it looks likely. I think most of the cheating will be on the Senate side: fewer races, easier to target specific districts.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 12:47 PM (KZzsI)

173 169 This is exciting news. Obamacare will so totally be repealed now. And NPR will be defunded. And a wall will be funded. And what else, oh yeah abortion will be banned, and national gun CCW will be a thing. I cant wait.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 20, 2022 12:4

Woo hoo!!

Oh wait…sarcasm. Dang

Posted by: LASue at May 20, 2022 12:46 PM (mg8IF)

I'm waiting for the Dems to pass Canada-style euthanasia laws so that they can push grandma over the cliff and blame Repubs for it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 12:47 PM (ynpvh)

174 167 Nadler could, you know, retire. Enjoy life. Walk his potbelly pig and drink grappa at the cafe.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 20, 2022 12:46 PM (R8uWY)

That would be a great photo. Owners who look like their pets.

Posted by: LASue at May 20, 2022 12:48 PM (mg8IF)

175
Nobody here actually believes that or has said that, Joe,but thanks for your update.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 20, 2022 12:45 PM (Ut+C0)

Wow. And lol.
Also, Vote R cuz reasons.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 20, 2022 12:48 PM (wSIcO)

176 Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 20, 2022 12:46 PM (n+4am)

Actually it's not. He's used it so many times it's warmed over and stinking.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 20, 2022 12:48 PM (Ut+C0)

177 The Republicans could hold a 75% majority in both houses and the presidency and they'd come up with other excuses why they simply cannot do anything to roll back the lefist advances.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 12:49 PM (KZzsI)

178 All congressional districts should be required to be a four sided shape.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter Wynette at May 20, 2022 12:49 PM (oc1LF)

179 Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 20, 2022 12:48 PM (wSIcO)

I will vote for whomever I choose to. I don't need your permission.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 20, 2022 12:49 PM (Ut+C0)

180 There are gonna be so many investigations! First thing is reopening the Benghazi hearings. Gotta get to the bottom of that. Then the Russian collusion. They will be investigatin everything, as long as the dems agree with the subpoenas.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 20, 2022 12:49 PM (R8uWY)

181 177 The Republicans could hold a 75% majority in both houses and the presidency and they'd come up with other excuses why they simply cannot do anything to roll back the lefist advances.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 12:49 PM (KZzsI)

I fact-check this as 100% true.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 12:49 PM (ynpvh)

182 Brian Stelter impregnating a woman in her Dirty Sexbin.
Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 12:37 PM (0G13K)

***

I saw Brian Stelter Impregnating a Woman in her Dirty Sexbin open for ABBA in Stockholm in '81

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at May 20, 2022 12:49 PM (flINI)

183 The Oregon congressional map must look like a Japanese Battle Flag.

The hilarious thing is that they thought that they had drawn four solid Democrat, one leaning Democrat, and one solid Republican districts, in a state that is generally 55% D/ 45% R.

They put an incumbent Democratic Congressman into the leaning D district, and had Biden endorse him in the primary, but the D voters booted him out in favor of a hard-Leftist, who is going to have major problems getting elected in that district.

Ooops...

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 20, 2022 12:49 PM (I2/tG)

184 181 177 The Republicans could hold a 75% majority in both houses and the presidency and they'd come up with other excuses why they simply cannot do anything to roll back the lefist advances.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 12:49 PM (KZzsI)

I fact-check this as 100% true.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 12:49 PM (ynpvh)

Although I'm not sure how you hold 75% of the presidency...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 12:50 PM (ynpvh)

185 Nadler could, you know, retire. Enjoy life. Walk his potbelly pig and drink grappa at the cafe.
==
I am convinced none of them leave voluntarily (only dying or election defeat) because they know there is a chance their crimes will be uncovered by a replacement.

Seriously. Pelosi is doing this for what?

Posted by: its not mere crazy at May 20, 2022 12:50 PM (nIYAr)

186 well, not to repeat what anyone has already said, but here's how I remember it:
1 - NYS set up a commission to draw the maps, half Dems and half Repubs;
2 - Dems drew one map, Repubs drew their map.
3 - because the commission was evenly split, the members couldn't agree to anything
4 - the Dem controlled state legislature drew up their own map, the one that gave the Repubs a chance to win only four seats in the House of Reps

continued

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 20, 2022 12:50 PM (Ynyl9)

187 I still chuckle when I think about Nadler waddling the fastest he's ever waddled in his life when he speed-waddled up to the podium during the bogus impeachment trial and the whole table yelling, "Jerry. Jerry! JERRY!!!"

Posted by: Biergood at May 20, 2022 12:50 PM (FQWHA)

188 Hillary Clinton approved dissemination of Trump-Russian bank allegations to media, campaign manager (Mook) testifies

Posted by: SMOD at May 20, 2022 12:50 PM (X5CsJ)

189 It’s so disheartening to see the majority fall right back into the red vs blue mindset as Election Day gets closer. It’s like everything the spines worthless gop has done over the past 20 years is forgotten. Cuz next year baby, just watch out!!! They’ll totally deliver man.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 20, 2022 12:51 PM (wSIcO)

190 188 Hillary Clinton approved dissemination of Trump-Russian bank allegations to media, campaign manager (Mook) testifies
Posted by: SMOD at May 20, 2022 12:50 PM (X5CsJ)

=======

"For the Greater Good."
-The Jury

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 12:51 PM (LvTSG)

191 continued from 186:

5 - Repubs go to court and a judge in the Supreme Court (actually the lowest of the three levels) tosses the Dem's map, saying it violates the NYS constitution's requirements for these districts to be reasonably compacted and not draw to give one side a partisan advantage over the other.
6 - Dems appeal to intermediate appeals court, which upholds the lower court ruling 3 to 2 (Dem holler because the 3 were two Repubs and one Dem, the other two judges are Dems)
7 - it's appealed to the top court, which I believe ruled unanimously to uphold the original ruling to throw the map out. I think these judges are all Dems. The top court then gives the job to this guy Cervas, who has apparently done this for states and regions all over the country.

at least that's how I remember it. Tough luck, Fatso.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 20, 2022 12:51 PM (Ynyl9)

192 I am glad to hear that Nadler will have competition from another Dem.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 20, 2022 12:51 PM (Ut+C0)

193 188 Hillary Clinton approved dissemination of Trump-Russian bank allegations to media, campaign manager (Mook) testifies

Posted by: SMOD at May 20, 2022 12:50 PM (X5CsJ)

Ministry of UnTruth says this is disinformation.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 12:51 PM (ynpvh)

194 Some people fear irrelevance. If they retire and the House keeps moving along without them, were they really that important in the first place?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 20, 2022 12:51 PM (R8uWY)

195 I'm waiting for the Dems to pass Canada-style euthanasia laws so that they can push grandma over the cliff and blame Repubs for it.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 12:47 PM (ynpvh)
---
The already did that with COVID and nursing homes.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 20, 2022 12:51 PM (YIVH2)

196 155 So Mordor is now part of Gondor?
Posted by: Dildo Nutbaggin

Yes. Gondor's 'white privilege' is problematic. Adding Mordor provides equity for Middle Earth.

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 20, 2022 12:51 PM (8Sqzu)

197 There are a few objective metrics -- compactness (minimum distance between all parts of voters in district)

Also acknowledgment of political boundaries. My county is in three congressional districts.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 20, 2022 12:51 PM (I2/tG)

198 btw, what happened in the Florida case this morning *was* in Federal Court; so it's useful to know what that case is about. Federal Circuit Judge Mark Walker had issued an injunction against it, a Federal appeals court has now blocked his injunction. Walker is a far left Obama Judge, and his ruling was very unlikely to stand, since he justified it by writing in his ruling that the Florida Legislature was so obviously racist that no actual proof was needed. (or words to that effect) He also included, in his ruling, a long diatribe about how racist and worthless the current Supreme Court is. (it was a real crank opinion)

The SCOTUS has said political gerrymandering does not violate the Constitution, but racial gerrymandering does. So, leftists have been claiming that all plans that they don't like are RAYCISS!!! But it looks like that old game is falling apart for them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 20, 2022 12:52 PM (trdmm)

199 >>>167 Nadler could, you know, retire. Enjoy life. Walk his potbelly pig and drink grappa at the cafe.

that sounds nice.

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 12:52 PM (0G13K)

200 Brian Stelter impregnating a woman in her Dirty Sexbin.
Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 12:37 PM (0G13K)

***

I saw Brian Stelter Impregnating a Woman in her Dirty Sexbin open for ABBA in Stockholm in '81
===
Wonderin' how many gals out there right now carryin' Brian (The Stick) Stelter's baby.

Posted by: Maureen Dowd, wishing she was fertile again at May 20, 2022 12:52 PM (hjS9P)

201 Hillary Clinton approved dissemination of Trump-Russian bank allegations to media, campaign manager (Mook) testifies
Posted by: SMOD

Is that illegal?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 20, 2022 12:52 PM (R8uWY)

202 115 98 NY Post is saying 2 in 10 Americans think the country is headed in the right direction.
(https://tinyurl.com/48wha32a)

Who the hell are these 2 people, and will the Morons closest to them please knock some sense into them?
Posted by: 496

2 in 10 Americans like watching the world burn.
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 20, 2022 12:38 PM (8Sqzu)

So... good for kindling?

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at May 20, 2022 12:52 PM (MkuC5)

203 thanks, Tom. and thanks In Reel Life.

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 12:52 PM (0G13K)

204 Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 20, 2022 12:51 PM (wSIcO)

I nominate you as our Washington. Lead us, O great General. You can have Scogg Dogg as your lieutenant.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 20, 2022 12:52 PM (Ut+C0)

205 198 The SCOTUS has said political gerrymandering does not violate the Constitution, but racial gerrymandering does. So, leftists have been claiming that all plans that they don't like are RAYCISS!!! But it looks like that old game is falling apart for them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 20, 2022 12:52 PM (trdmm)

========

The VRA's days are numbered.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 12:52 PM (LvTSG)

206 200 Brian Stelter impregnating a woman in her Dirty Sexbin.
Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 12:37 PM (0G13K)

***

I saw Brian Stelter Impregnating a Woman in her Dirty Sexbin open for ABBA in Stockholm in '81
===
Wonderin' how many gals out there right now carryin' Brian (The Stick) Stelter's baby.

Posted by: Maureen Dowd, wishing she was fertile again at May 20, 2022 12:52 PM (hjS9P)

They're the ones holding up potatoes at the concert in Stockholm in '81.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 12:53 PM (ynpvh)

207
There are a few objective metrics -- compactness (minimum distance between all parts of voters in district), natural boundaries (rivers, etc.), commonality of interests (i.e., urban v. rural v. suburbs), continuity (all parts of district are connected at some point with rest of district) and preservation of core of prior district.

NY's map that the court tossed broke all of them.

I don't consider quantities like "compactness" to be objective. Natural boundaries are better, but which ones? Commonality of interests? Sorry, that's so vague as to be useless. Preservation of core? How much? That's also subjective.

The only solution is to start over, let a computer pick the boundaries, and not let Dominion anywhere near the entire process.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 20, 2022 12:53 PM (ZsR3z)

208 I will vote for whomever I choose to. I don't need your permission.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 20, 2022 12:49 PM (Ut+C0)

When did I say you need it? Sheesh.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 20, 2022 12:53 PM (wSIcO)

209 >>>Wonderin' how many gals out there right now carryin' Brian (The Stick) Stelter's baby.

must be hundreds, so many men been cvcked by Stelter, fillin' up dey women with his News Slime

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 12:53 PM (0G13K)

210 I suppose pointing out that gerrymanders don't matter if cheating is allowed would be a faux pas of polite society.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 20, 2022 12:54 PM (lgeFv)

211 It’s like everything the spines worthless gop has done over the past 20 years is forgotten.

There is still a difference between a Congress run by Republican squishes, and a Congress run by the Squad.

Without the Republican squishes in Congress, we would have gotten Build Back Better, and inflation would be topping 40% by now.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 20, 2022 12:54 PM (I2/tG)

212 210 I suppose pointing out that gerrymanders don't matter if cheating is allowed would be a faux pas of polite society.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 20, 2022 12:54 PM (lgeFv)

========

Then why did the Democrats try?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 12:54 PM (LvTSG)

213 209 >>>Wonderin' how many gals out there right now carryin' Brian (The Stick) Stelter's baby.

must be hundreds, so many men been cvcked by Stelter, fillin' up dey women with his News Slime

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 12:53 PM (0G13K)

And here I thought you were going to say he used his french fry on them.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 12:54 PM (ynpvh)

214 I think Kathy Hochul is possibly one of the most un charismatic politicians I have ever seen or heard. Surely they could pay someone to improve her speaking style. Heck; I'd do it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 20, 2022 12:54 PM (Ut+C0)

215 >>> All congressional districts should be required to be a four sided shape.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter Wynette at May 20, 2022 12:49 PM (oc1LF)

QUAD elements all defined by four grid points. The order of GRIDIDs defines the unit-normal of the direction you're screwed in that state using the right-hand-thumb rule. I hope I'm an outie.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 20, 2022 12:54 PM (XlZ2m)

216 yeah I know i've flipped on a dime from "brian stelter is weak and asexual" to "brian stelter is a sex Viking conquering the English settlement of your girl's snizz" but that's how the comments roll

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 12:55 PM (0G13K)

217 I see multiple references to a "draft" map. Is this map final or not? If final, then hurray, the GOP wins one! If still draft, then let's not count chickens before they hatch.

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 20, 2022 12:55 PM (iFTx/)

218 In frustration and outrage it is easy to focus on the evil of our enemy and the need to defeat them at the expense of the very principles and ideals we are fighting for.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 12:45 PM (KZzsI)

G. Gordon Liddy said something along the lines of, "sometimes you have to violate the laws in order to protect the institution you are serving."

Lord knows I'm a fan of tossing the Constitution and BoR if it means jailing every elected Democrat and outlawing their party in perpetuity.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 20, 2022 12:55 PM (2JVJo)

219 Krystal Ball did a good breakdown on all this on yesterday's Breaking Points. It's all very Dem inside-baseball so it was good to hear an honest lib perspective.

Say, Glenn Greenwald's scathing piece on Nicolle Iscariot Wallace, linked over at Insty, is a must-read. That ho scares me.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 20, 2022 12:55 PM (HsAzN)

220 I still chuckle when I think about Nadler waddling the fastest he's ever waddled in his life when he speed-waddled up to the podium during the bogus impeachment trial and the whole table yelling, "Jerry. Jerry! JERRY!!!"
===
the absurdity of the whole affair in a nutshell

a little ball of lard, in a rush to make itself look even more foolish and ineffectual.

Posted by: clown world it is at May 20, 2022 12:55 PM (zYDCR)

221 Nadler certainly fits the compactness requirement. All points of his body are equidistant from his belly button.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 20, 2022 12:56 PM (R8uWY)

222 my guess about the Sussman trial: hing jury, Durham moves to take the trial to another place where 105% of voters don't always vote Dem.

IF I recall correctly, Nadler and Maloney have both been in the House of Reps for 30 years. Gonna be fun to watch, Dem leadership will probably want Nadler to stay because of his skills as a conniving weasel, others will want Maloney because woman. Someone ask newly engaged ocasio-crackpot and Moochelle and Hillary what they think.

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at May 20, 2022 12:56 PM (Ynyl9)

223 ay, Glenn Greenwald's scathing piece on Nicolle Iscariot Wallace, linked over at Insty, is a must-read. That ho scares me.
==
Probably a repurposed serial killer. Lot of them in the media.

Posted by: seems like a joke . . . at May 20, 2022 12:56 PM (zYDCR)

224 221 Nadler certainly fits the compactness requirement. All points of his body are equidistant from his belly button.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 20, 2022 12:56 PM (R8uWY)

I would think his asshole would be closer.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 12:56 PM (ynpvh)

225
I still chuckle when I think about Nadler waddling the fastest he's ever waddled in his life when he speed-waddled up to the podium during the bogus impeachment trial and the whole table yelling, "Jerry. Jerry! JERRY!!!"
Posted by: Biergood at May 20, 2022 12:50 PM (FQWHA)
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Don't forget when he dropped that big dookie in his britches on that podium and he had to crabwalk off of it while Nancy was throwing up in her mouth.

Posted by: Pelosi's Puckered Face at May 20, 2022 12:57 PM (o0I+B)

226 Although I'm not sure how you hold 75% of the presidency...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 12:50 PM

Joe Biden is a perfect example of how you hold 75% of the presidency.***

*** I believe my estimate of 75% is significantly too high!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 20, 2022 12:57 PM (tkyK5)

227 The only solution is to start over, let a computer pick the boundaries

LOL. Oregon tried that years ago, when things were more bipartisan - they had a computer program determine the state senate districts, starting from the borders of the state, and working inwards towards the center of population in Portland. The program eliminated the two black state senate districts in central Portland.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 20, 2022 12:57 PM (I2/tG)

228 221 Nadler certainly fits the compactness requirement. All points of his body are equidistant from his belly button.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 20, 2022 12:56 PM (R8uWY)

So his belly button is at the center of his body?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 12:57 PM (ynpvh)

229 faux pas of polite society

Pate de faux pas.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at May 20, 2022 12:57 PM (hWaIR)

230 Nadler certainly fits the compactness requirement. All points of his body are equidistant from his belly button.

He's like a mini death star, complete with exhaust vent.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 20, 2022 12:57 PM (ZsR3z)

231 Although I'm not sure how you hold 75% of the presidency...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 12:50 PM (ynpvh)

Biden is at 50% at best.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at May 20, 2022 12:57 PM (vN+oL)

232
Without the Republican squishes in Congress, we would have gotten Build Back Better, and inflation would be topping 40% by now.

Manchin saved us from that. Not the pieces of shit GOPers. Remember those assholes gleefully signed on to the first so called infrastructure deal that was a $1t giveaway to blue cities and enviro groups. My area won’t see a foot of new roads from it but NYC will get a new subway line and several Solyndras will get billions too.

So conservative. So brave in standing up to Shumer and Pelosi. Let’s give them our thanks with our vote.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 20, 2022 12:57 PM (wSIcO)

233 How do we know the congressional district is banana shaped?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 20, 2022 12:58 PM (R8uWY)

234 And that is retarded. If a state wants to fuck with its districts for state offices, whatever. It only affects that state. But for federal seats, what happens in NY affects people in UE other 56 states as well. Could NY just issue a law that every seat will be Democrat? I means it’s state law right?
Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 20, 2022 12:46 PM (wSIcO)

Standard SCOTUS answer, which I hope we will start seeing a lot more often - "It does not matter what the political result is, it only matters what is in the Constitution."

And what has happened her is that even NY has to live up to its own constitution. As to the case where a legislature has passed laws granting themselves power in perpetuity, I would argue that California has already done that, and the only answer is for everyone there who objects to leave and move to some other state.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 20, 2022 12:58 PM (trdmm)

235 That's right. Dig the hole deeper.

Disney Launches LGBTQ Clothing Line for Children and Older With Profits Going to LGBTQ Groups

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 20, 2022 12:58 PM (FVME7)

236 If a representative doesn't know where his district boundaries are then it needs to be rewritten. Nadler could study that map for a year and he would be able to remember it.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter Wynette at May 20, 2022 12:58 PM (oc1LF)

237 Unrelated-to this post- thought. Donate to Ace today. I will He's been writing some great stuff and also provides a pleasant breather with the Cafe. Thanks, Ace.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 20, 2022 12:58 PM (Ut+C0)

238 Speaking of Tater, I’e seen in my local supermarket magazines (Giant or Wegman’s, maybe both) that they now offer something called “smashed potatoes.” “Smashed” other veggies, too. Any idea how “smashed” potatoes differ from “mashed” ones?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 20, 2022 12:58 PM (RS4cl)

239 It’s so disheartening to see the majority fall right back into the red vs blue mindset as Election Day gets closer.

Not me. In the first place, I don't want to see a 'red wave.' AFAIC, every one of those feckless bastards ought to be thrown out on their ear.

Secondly, I know the 'red wave' will be nothing but sound and fury. I know that at this time next year, the threads will be full of anger at all the opportunities the GOP has thrown away and how they have done nothing to stop the Dems in their tracks.

I will admit that being a cynic and chronic depressive may not be the most mentally healthy way to live, but in regard to politics, it helps keep one sane.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 20, 2022 12:58 PM (2JVJo)

240 232 Manchin saved us from that. Not the pieces of shit GOPers. Remember those assholes gleefully signed on to the first so called infrastructure deal that was a $1t giveaway to blue cities and enviro groups. My area won’t see a foot of new roads from it but NYC will get a new subway line and several Solyndras will get billions too.

So conservative. So brave in standing up to Shumer and Pelosi. Let’s give them our thanks with our vote.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 20, 2022 12:57 PM (wSIcO)

========

Manchin only "saved us" because the GOP squishes wouldn't vote for it at all. They couldn't get 60 votes for the bill, and they'll never get 51 to blow up the filibuster.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 12:58 PM (LvTSG)

241 I... how do you say... know the Brian Stelter. We have, you know, worked together on a many occasions.

Posted by: The Paolo at May 20, 2022 12:58 PM (flINI)

242 233 How do we know the congressional district is banana shaped?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 20, 2022 12:58 PM (R8uWY

Someone must have asked a Horticulturist.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 20, 2022 12:59 PM (trdmm)

243 Disney Launches LGBTQ Clothing Line for Children and Older With Profits Going to LGBTQ Groups

What does that mean? Girl clothes for boys, and boy clothes for girls? Anyone else see a problem here?

Posted by: Archimedes at May 20, 2022 12:59 PM (ZsR3z)

244 238 Speaking of Tater, I’e seen in my local supermarket magazines (Giant or Wegman’s, maybe both) that they now offer something called “smashed potatoes.” “Smashed” other veggies, too. Any idea how “smashed” potatoes differ from “mashed” ones?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 20, 2022 12:58 PM (RS4cl)

How you squish 'em?
I think it might be how chunky the result it.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 12:59 PM (ynpvh)

245 I still chuckle when I think about Nadler waddling the fastest he's ever waddled in his life when he speed-waddled up to the podium during the bogus impeachment trial and the whole table yelling, "Jerry. Jerry! JERRY!!!"
Posted by: Biergood
----

A scene I will never forget.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 20, 2022 12:59 PM (Xnr/7)

246 That's right. Dig the hole deeper.

Disney Launches LGBTQ Clothing Line for Children and Older With Profits Going to LGBTQ Groups
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 20, 2022 12:58 PM (FVME7)
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Keep grooming that chicken, Disney. How's that workin' out for ya?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 20, 2022 12:59 PM (YIVH2)

247 Then why did the Democrats try?

Concentration of cheating in R districts.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 20, 2022 12:59 PM (lgeFv)

248 Disney Launches LGBTQ Clothing Line for Children and Older With Profits Going to LGBTQ Groups

someone needs to unfreeze Walt, upload his brain into a terminator robot, and let him take a flamethrower to Disney corporate

Posted by: brak at May 20, 2022 12:59 PM (j5Tg0)

249 209 >>>Wonderin' how many gals out there right now carryin' Brian (The Stick) Stelter's baby.

must be hundreds, so many men been cvcked by Stelter, fillin' up dey women with his News Slime
Posted by: ace

Yea, fuckin' legend. Big Dick and he Know how to use it..

Posted by: Puddleglum at May 20, 2022 01:00 PM (8Sqzu)

250 The program eliminated the two black state senate districts in central Portland.

The Man use that Tricknology to keep The People down!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at May 20, 2022 01:00 PM (hWaIR)

251 >>> I... how do you say... know the Brian Stelter. We have, you know, worked together on a many occasions.
Posted by: The Paolo at May 20, 2022 12:58 PM (flINI)

MPF

Posted by: banana Dream at May 20, 2022 01:00 PM (XlZ2m)

252 250 The program eliminated the two black state senate districts in central Portland.

The Man use that Tricknology to keep The People down!

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at May 20, 2022 01:00 PM (hWaIR)

The Dems did that.
"Oh, that's social justice then"-folks on the left

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 01:01 PM (ynpvh)

253 239 Secondly, I know the 'red wave' will be nothing but sound and fury. I know that at this time next year, the threads will be full of anger at all the opportunities the GOP has thrown away and how they have done nothing to stop the Dems in their tracks.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 20, 2022 12:58 PM (2JVJo)

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I seriously doubt that. Do you see anyone expecting great legislation (that Biden would veto anyway) coming from Congress next year around here?

The best we can hope from a good Republican Congress would be incredible obstruction and the wrangling of the budgetary process to choke off the administrative state completely. No one thinks that is going to happen. Not here in these comments, at least.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 01:01 PM (LvTSG)

254 G. Gordon Liddy said something along the lines of, "sometimes you have to violate the laws in order to protect the institution you are serving."

Lord knows I'm a fan of tossing the Constitution and BoR if it means jailing every elected Democrat and outlawing their party in perpetuity.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 20, 2022 12:55 PM (2JVJo

I mostly remember him saying that you will always lose if you are playing by the rules and your opponents have no rules.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter Wynette at May 20, 2022 01:01 PM (oc1LF)

255 LOL. Oregon tried that years ago, when things were more bipartisan - they had a computer program determine the state senate districts, starting from the borders of the state, and working inwards towards the center of population in Portland. The program eliminated the two black state senate districts in central Portland.

Omelets, some assembly required.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 20, 2022 01:01 PM (ZsR3z)

256 239 I will admit that being a cynic and chronic depressive may not be the most mentally healthy way to live, but in regard to politics, it helps keep one sane.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 20, 2022 12:58 PM

I know, if there is a Red wave in November that somehow, someway, the GOP will fumble the ball and not accomplish anything but appease the yelling and screaming of the Dims and their media lapdogs.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at May 20, 2022 01:01 PM (WsJuq)

257 DeBlasio/Nadler/Mahoney all running against each other for the 10th? Geeze...this will turn into the most EXPENSIVE congressional seat campaign in History, spending rivaling or exceeding Presidential Campaigns.
(Remove the blue tinted 'water' from the map it it looks even sketchier,connected only by long narrow bridges, similar to Kapturs(D Ohio) 'snake by the lake', Illinois' hispanic earmuffs 4th district, and Marylands 3rd district "broken-winged pterodactyl lying prostrate across the state" and also likened to "blood spatter at a crime scene." )

Posted by: Birddog at May 20, 2022 01:01 PM (uAI4S)

258 Manchin only "saved us" because the GOP squishes wouldn't vote for it at all. They couldn't get 60 votes for the bill, and they'll never get 51 to blow up the filibuster.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 12:58 PM (LvTSG)

Had Manchin been on board Mitch would have given them 60. This way the GOPe can pretend to have saved us from the PPP. Meanwhile they happily give blue cities $1T under the guise of “infrastructure” while rural roads crumble.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 20, 2022 01:02 PM (wSIcO)

259 Colin Kaepernick Is About to Become a (Honorary) Doctor for Some Reason

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And your sorry ass hasn't done a damn thing while Colin Kaepernick was becoming every bit as much a doctor as Dr. Jill.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 20, 2022 01:02 PM (FVME7)

260 Speaking of Tater, I’e seen in my local supermarket magazines (Giant or Wegman’s, maybe both) that they now offer something called “smashed potatoes.” “Smashed” other veggies, too. Any idea how “smashed” potatoes differ from “mashed” ones?
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 20, 2022 12:58 PM (RS4cl)

I saw some Kerrygold commercial and it looked like they boiled whole potatoes, smashed them flat, and then baked them.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 20, 2022 01:02 PM (DRSnL)

261 259 Colin Kaepernick Is About to Become a (Honorary) Doctor for Some Reason

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And your sorry ass hasn't done a damn thing while Colin Kaepernick was becoming every bit as much a doctor as Dr. Jill.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 20, 2022 01:02 PM (FVME7)

He has the IQ of a Dr. Pepper.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 01:02 PM (ynpvh)

262 I'm still trying to figure out smashburgers.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 20, 2022 01:02 PM (HsAzN)

263 209 >>>Wonderin' how many gals out there right now carryin' Brian (The Stick) Stelter's baby.

must be hundreds, so many men been cvcked by Stelter, fillin' up dey women with his News Slime
Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 12:53 PM (0G13K)

Man this would look really weird to liberals if anyone ever reported to them what we talk about.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 20, 2022 01:02 PM (b2nrj)

264 >>>Speaking of Tater, I've seen in my local supermarket magazines (Giant or Wegman’s, maybe both) that they now offer something called "smashed potatoes." "Smashed" other veggies, too. Any idea how "smashed" potatoes differ from "mashed" ones?

i saw that first in NYC restaurants in the 90s, usually in the phrase "*garlic* smashed potatoes." At least there it had *some* meaning -- the potatoes had the kick of garlic.

I guess then they just started saying smashed potatoes instead of mashed potatoes.

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 01:03 PM (0G13K)

265 Now how about the Democrats map in Pa?

Posted by: Skip's phone at May 20, 2022 01:03 PM (UsOVD)

266 I mostly remember him saying that you will always lose if you are playing by the rules and your opponents have no rules.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter Wynette at May 20, 2022 01:01 PM (oc1LF)
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Strictly speaking CHAOS > ORDER, yet we constantly attempt to form order out of chaos. And at least for a short time on a cosmic scale, we can succeed. But CHAOS wins out in the end...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 20, 2022 01:03 PM (YIVH2)

267 Manchin saved us from that. Not the pieces of shit GOPers.

If two pieces of shit GOPers had voted for Build Back Better, it would have passed.

GOP votes were just as important as Manchin's.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 20, 2022 01:03 PM (I2/tG)

268 So is MonkeyPox the latest "software update" for the Great Reset (that totally isn't happening you guys, though it's Good that It Is).

FM-33 sez 10-15% mortality rate. Affects children the worst perhaps. Smallpox vaccination works against it, except these were discontinued by the 1980s for civilians. Can't find my shot records at the moment - but as I recall, we were jabbed in the .mil routinely for that.

Makes sense - 3 to 5 years immunity for smallpox vaccination

Posted by: Common Tater at May 20, 2022 01:03 PM (Xp/q+)

269 BREAKING NEWS: Hillary Clinton APPROVED sharing debunked 'covert' communications between Trump and Kremlin-backed bank with press - even though she wasn't 'totally confident' in the legitimacy, ex-campaign manager tells Durham trial

https://tinyurl.com/2p8j3kxs

Posted by: redridinghood at May 20, 2022 01:03 PM (NpAcC)

270 258 Had Manchin been on board Mitch would have given them 60. This way the GOPe can pretend to have saved us from the PPP. Meanwhile they happily give blue cities $1T under the guise of “infrastructure” while rural roads crumble.
Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 20, 2022 01:02 PM (wSIcO)

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The infrastructure was bad, but your four-dimensional analysis of what's going on in Congress seems off.

BBB was an electoral loser, not just in WV but in most states. Manchin was a scapegoat on the left, not the right. He himself killed BBB, saving people like the Senators from AZ, NM, and NH the votes one way or the other.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 01:03 PM (LvTSG)

271 >>>Yea, fuckin' legend. Big Dick and he Know how to use it..

haha

(large)

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 01:03 PM (0G13K)

272 And your sorry ass hasn't done a damn thing while Colin Kaepernick was becoming every bit as much a doctor as Dr. Jill.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 20, 2022 01:02 PM

IQ of a mushroom growing in sh*t >>> IQ of "Dr." Jill >>> IQ of Kraperdick!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 20, 2022 01:04 PM (tkyK5)

273 Dirty Sexbin sounds like a punk band

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 01:04 PM (KZzsI)

274 268 So is MonkeyPox the latest "software update" for the Great Reset (that totally isn't happening you guys, though it's Good that It Is).

FM-33 sez 10-15% mortality rate. Affects children the worst perhaps. Smallpox vaccination works against it, except these were discontinued by the 1980s for civilians. Can't find my shot records at the moment - but as I recall, we were jabbed in the .mil routinely for that.

Makes sense - 3 to 5 years immunity for smallpox vaccination

Posted by: Common Tater at May 20, 2022 01:03 PM (Xp/q+)

Had my smallpox vax too many decades ago. Still have the mark on my shoulder.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 01:04 PM (ynpvh)

275 Say, Glenn Greenwald's scathing piece on Nicolle Iscariot Wallace, linked over at Insty, is a must-read. That ho scares me.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 20, 2022 12:55 PM (HsAzN)

It's odd how so many former Bush staffers are utter slime.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at May 20, 2022 01:04 PM (eGTCV)

276 I assume the odds favor Maloney, a woman. Unless Nadler decides to identify as "Geraldine".

Personally, I'd let the legislatures have a free hand. I think that's what the founders wanted. And when they go overboard, you do have a chance to vote them out. Judges are no more trustworthy, and even harder to get rid of.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 20, 2022 01:05 PM (R0Tis)

277 This is just a small sliver of what the Democrats have been doing over the last 4 years. There are four red states (with left leaning State Supreme Courts) that gerrymandered in favor of Democrats by violating the state constitution of each of those states. All four had their supreme court hire a liberal hack professor from Stanford Univ. to come in and realign.

Only the legislature can set voting boundaries....but the supreme courts did it anyway since they are the ones that decide what is constitutional in their state.

One of these states has has consistently elected republican legislatures for decades. But, not this time...and btw, we're talking about Pennsylvania.

Posted by: Orson at May 20, 2022 01:05 PM (iA3kn)

278 FM-33 sez 10-15% mortality rate. Affects children the worst perhaps. Smallpox vaccination works against it, except these were discontinued by the 1980s for civilians. Can't find my shot records at the moment - but as I recall, we were jabbed in the .mil routinely for that.
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So in other words, we already have a preventative. How is Moderna/Pfizer going to profit from that?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 20, 2022 01:05 PM (YIVH2)

279 269 BREAKING NEWS: Hillary Clinton APPROVED sharing debunked 'covert' communications between Trump and Kremlin-backed bank with press - even though she wasn't 'totally confident' in the legitimacy, ex-campaign manager tells Durham trial

https://tinyurl.com/2p8j3kxs

Posted by: redridinghood at May 20, 2022 01:03 PM (NpAcC)

It's not that she wasn't totally confident in the legitimacy, she fuk'n KNEW it was bullshit. C'mon, man, let's be honest here.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 01:06 PM (ynpvh)

280 I guess then they just started saying smashed potatoes instead of mashed potatoes.
Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 01:03 PM (0G13K)

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They got that from me. I so regularly go around smashing Secks holes that they had to name something after me

Posted by: Brian Stelter at May 20, 2022 01:06 PM (flINI)

281 That Greenwald piece on Wallace has a cruelty level towards Lincoln Project/NeverTrump that I'm sure the Head Ewok would approve of.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 20, 2022 01:06 PM (HsAzN)

282 I assume the odds favor Maloney, a woman. Unless Nadler decides to identify as "Geraldine".

Who knows what type of genitalia Jerry has lurking under that gunt.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at May 20, 2022 01:06 PM (eGTCV)

283 Way back when I was a wee Greek, I used to love white bread and Velveeta sandwiches. The best part, though, was that you could squish them down into cubes of doughy goodness. It wasn't until many years later that I learned of panini. Ah, what might have been, patent-wise.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 20, 2022 01:06 PM (ZsR3z)

284 >>They got that from me. I so regularly go around smashing Secks holes that they had to name something after me
Posted by: Brian Stelter

fuckin' legend

Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 01:06 PM (0G13K)

285 Who knows what type of genitalia Jerry has lurking under that gunt.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at May 20, 2022 01:06 PM

Nadler certainly has no personal knowledge of what lurks there!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 20, 2022 01:07 PM (tkyK5)

286 23 >>>18 Stelter is married?

not only that, he's married to a woman, and she has kids.
Posted by: ace at May 20, 2022 12:22 PM (0G13K)
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Do they look more like the pool boy, or the tennis instructor?

Posted by: Eeyore at May 20, 2022 01:07 PM (R0Tis)

287 I mostly remember him saying that you will always lose if you are playing by the rules and your opponents have no rules.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter Wynette at May 20, 2022 01:01 PM (oc1LF)

I'm reading a new history of Watergate. Biased author (Watergate is how we got to Trump!), but spot-on about the asshole Mark Felt and the dirtbags of the CIA / FBI.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 20, 2022 01:08 PM (2JVJo)

288 Congressional districts, and the ability to redistrict them is one of the reasons elections barely matter anymore.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 20, 2022 01:08 PM (BFigT)

289 If Republicans are positioned for a huge pickup in the House, then there's really no harm if some MAGA voters try voting D. Like those who live in Kevin McCarthy's or Eyepatch McCain's districts. Perfect time to sacrifice a couple of seats but come out with a stronger caucus.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at May 20, 2022 01:08 PM (VbI7r)

290 Does Tater still have his job?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at May 20, 2022 01:09 PM (eGTCV)

291 290 If Republicans are positioned for a huge pickup in the House, then there's really no harm if some MAGA voters try voting D. Like those who live in Kevin McCarthy's or Eyepatch McCain's districts. Perfect time to sacrifice a couple of seats but come out with a stronger caucus.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at May 20, 2022 01:08 PM (VbI7r)

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I said this about Crenshaw a month ago. If you live in his district, vote D.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 01:09 PM (LvTSG)

292 291 Does Tater still have his job?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at May 20, 2022 01:09 PM (eGTCV)

He may be hiding in some dark, cool place.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 01:09 PM (ynpvh)

293 Joe somehow forgot to mention that the new Samsung factory in Texas ain't making portable radios. It's making batteries for electric cars and solar/wind energy storage units. Guess what brand!

Go ahead, I'll wait. Okay, starts with a "T..." and ends with "...esla".

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 20, 2022 01:09 PM (4OVxK)

294 It's not that she wasn't totally confident in the legitimacy, she fuk'n KNEW it was bullshit. C'mon, man, let's be honest here.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 01:06 PM (ynpvh)

You may have forgotten that Hillary testified that her signature on incriminating documents didn't mean she knew anything about those documents.

The auto pen is the guy you're after .

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter Wynette at May 20, 2022 01:10 PM (oc1LF)

295 The gerrymandering. It is obvious to me that any political organization that can analyze votes and population down to the street level should have no problem manufacturing enough ballots to win every election.
Or write the appropriate code to run in the counting machines.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 20, 2022 01:10 PM (anj39)

296 I really think that MUMR needs to give us a Ted talk. He's got some great stuff and he needs to share

Posted by: Truck Monkey Report at May 20, 2022 01:10 PM (flINI)

297 291 290 If Republicans are positioned for a huge pickup in the House, then there's really no harm if some MAGA voters try voting D. Like those who live in Kevin McCarthy's or Eyepatch McCain's districts. Perfect time to sacrifice a couple of seats but come out with a stronger caucus.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at May 20, 2022 01:08 PM (VbI7r)

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I said this about Crenshaw a month ago. If you live in his district, vote D.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 01:09 PM (LvTSG)

Unfortunately in quite a few places, (D) stands for douche, (R) stands for retard. Choose you poison carefully.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 01:10 PM (ynpvh)

298 I just heard yesterday that Tucker referred to Dan Crenshaw as "Eyepatch John McCain."

Cruel.

Posted by: 496 at May 20, 2022 01:10 PM (VJsqe)

299 >>> Strictly speaking CHAOS > ORDER, yet we constantly attempt to form order out of chaos. And at least for a short time on a cosmic scale, we can succeed. But CHAOS wins out in the end...
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 20, 2022 01:03 PM (YIVH2)

Chaos must transition to order as often as order transitions to chaos because of the principle of space/time symmetry. But that equivalence really only occurs at near maximum entropy and heat death.

However, we are in a transient towards maximum entropy. So all the rules don't necessarily apply. And why the transient? And why is it so asymmetric in regards to time and space? Something must have happened that can't be explained within the rules of the system.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 20, 2022 01:10 PM (XlZ2m)

300 298 I just heard yesterday that Tucker referred to Dan Crenshaw as "Eyepatch John McCain."

Cruel.
Posted by: 496 at May 20, 2022 01:10 PM (VJsqe)

LOL, perhaps, but certainly fitting.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 01:11 PM (ynpvh)

301 The best we can hope from a good Republican Congress would be incredible obstruction and the wrangling of the budgetary process to choke off the administrative state completely. No one thinks that is going to happen. Not here in these comments, at least.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting the system with Kobayashi at May 20, 2022 01:01 PM (LvTSG)

Voting GOP representatives in is a *Defensive* measure, not an offensive one. The reason I hope John Fetterman (for example) loses is because he will work very hard to make post-birth abortion available an make Democrat controlled mail in balloting mandatory for *all* elections. Someone who just does nothing is FAR preferable to that.

So yes, I strongly support the move to put in power those who will do little with it, because the alternative is those who are going to a whole lot of BAD stuff with it. Bad stuff aimed at YOU.

I do not want a new Congress to do much of anything, other than to obstruct everything Biden wants to do while the Fed Government slips into chaos.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 20, 2022 01:11 PM (trdmm)

302 We're getting another autonomous zone! I'm sure it'll work out just as well as the others did.

Leftist Nutjobs From Across the Country Head to Southern Atlanta Autonomous Zone

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SAAZ?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 20, 2022 01:11 PM (FVME7)

303 269

There is only one kind of good "breaking news" re: Hillary: She. Gets. Indicted.

Hell will freeze over before that, of course.

Posted by: Ziba at May 20, 2022 01:12 PM (S1hrL)

304 Chaos must transition to order as often as order transitions to chaos because of the principle of space/time symmetry. But that equivalence really only occurs at near maximum entropy and heat death.

However, we are in a transient towards maximum entropy. So all the rules don't necessarily apply. And why the transient? And why is it so asymmetric in regards to time and space? Something must have happened that can't be explained within the rules of the system.

I dunno. Ghosts?

Posted by: Archimedes at May 20, 2022 01:12 PM (ZsR3z)

305 You may have forgotten that Hillary testified that her signature on incriminating documents didn't mean she knew anything about those documents.

The auto pen is the guy you're after .
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter Wynette at May 20, 2022 01:10 PM (oc1LF)
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So like a lot of clueless executives, she doesn't read the documents she signs? Hmmm...Could have interesting implications if someone was a bit clever and convinced her to sign incriminating documents as "insurance" against her.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 20, 2022 01:12 PM (YIVH2)

306 I just had an epiphany. All those evil kings in the Old Testament were just reaching across the aisle to ba-al worshippers--for the sake of unity.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at May 20, 2022 01:12 PM (eGTCV)

307 I might not vote for a Republican but I'll never vote Democrat against a Republican. Okay never say never but as Democrats stand today . Never.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter Wynette at May 20, 2022 01:12 PM (oc1LF)

308 Well maybe you missed the part about the vaccinia vaccine only offering 3 to 5 years worth of immunity?

I'm not smart enough to understand it, but in some ways the discontinuation of the Smallpox immunization has something to do with a kind of MAD strategy, only with regards to biologicals. In other words, a completely immunized society or population could start weaponizing smallpox against those who aren't.

Look for lots of activity on the part of those still making it, if this thing gets legs. Probably no one in the US of A,

Posted by: Common Tater at May 20, 2022 01:13 PM (Xp/q+)

309 303 269

There is only one kind of good "breaking news" re: Hillary: She. Gets. Indicted.

Hell will freeze over before that, of course.

Posted by: Ziba at May 20, 2022 01:12 PM (S1hrL)

Indictment means nothing.
1) she's not found guilty
2) she's pardoned by mushhead shitpants

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 01:13 PM (ynpvh)

310

Four color map theory proves that Nadler's rectum touches every portion of his body.

Posted by: Victor Viagra at May 20, 2022 01:13 PM (S/GqB)

311 287 I mostly remember him saying that you will always lose if you are playing by the rules and your opponents have no rules.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter Wynette at May 20, 2022 01:01 PM (oc1LF)

I'm reading a new history of Watergate. Biased author (Watergate is how we got to Trump!), but spot-on about the asshole Mark Felt and the dirtbags of the CIA / FBI.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 20, 2022 01:08 PM (2JVJo)
_______________________________

Stallone as Marion Cobretti in Cobra: "As long as we play by these bullshit rules and the killer doesn't, we're gonna lose."

Posted by: Elric Blade at May 20, 2022 01:13 PM (iFTx/)

312 Carolyn Maloney...gun expert..."the thing that goes up"...her?

Posted by: BignJames at May 20, 2022 01:13 PM (AwYPR)

313 We're getting another autonomous zone! I'm sure it'll work out just as well as the others did.

Leftist Nutjobs From Across the Country Head to Southern Atlanta Autonomous Zone

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SAAZ?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 20, 2022 01:11 PM (FVME7)
***

Far as I know, the Seattle PD has yet to arrest anyone for the kids killed at Chaz.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 20, 2022 01:13 PM (anj39)

314 Things that make you go hmmmm:

https://instapundit.com/521186/#respond

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 20, 2022 01:13 PM (lgeFv)

315 Alex Stein #99
@alexstein99

32m
I went to the doctor this morning because I had monkeypox symptoms but thankfully it was just HIV

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at May 20, 2022 01:13 PM (QYPq3)

316
I am glad to hear that Nadler will have competition from another Dem.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

They should fight it out to Star Trek fighting music.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 20, 2022 01:14 PM (63Dwl)

317 306 I just had an epiphany. All those evil kings in the Old Testament were just reaching across the aisle to ba-al worshippers--for the sake of unity.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at May 20, 2022 01:12 PM (eGTCV)

Why, yes. And to show that unity, they even occasionally sacrificed their own children to Molech.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 01:14 PM (ynpvh)

318 316
I am glad to hear that Nadler will have competition from another Dem.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

They should fight it out to Star Trek fighting music.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 20, 2022 01:14 PM (63Dwl)

Sumo wrestling.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at May 20, 2022 01:14 PM (eGTCV)

319 304 Chaos must transition to order as often as order transitions to chaos because of the principle of space/time symmetry. But that equivalence really only occurs at near maximum entropy and heat death.

However, we are in a transient towards maximum entropy. So all the rules don't necessarily apply. And why the transient? And why is it so asymmetric in regards to time and space? Something must have happened that can't be explained within the rules of the system.

I dunno. Ghosts?
Posted by: Archimedes

Awiens

Posted by: Cute Fuzzy Kitten at May 20, 2022 01:14 PM (8Sqzu)

320 >>> Leftist Nutjobs From Across the Country Head to Southern Atlanta Autonomous Zone
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SAAZ?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 20, 2022 01:11 PM (FVME7)
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Far as I know, the Seattle PD has yet to arrest anyone for the kids killed at Chaz.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 20, 2022 01:13 PM (anj39)

There are so many tent cities springing up around GA it's crazy.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 20, 2022 01:15 PM (XlZ2m)

321 310 Four color map theory proves that Nadler's rectum touches every portion of his body.

Posted by: Victor Viagra at May 20, 2022 01:13 PM (S/GqB)

LOL, will he use of that theory never find new uses?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 01:15 PM (ynpvh)

322 100 The GOP will win the House, by a lot. Just not worried, but this makes it even better.

It's the Senate I'm worried about and my fear is we're going to have some retard candidates that "should" win in this cycle but are just going to be a bridge too far for even pissed off voters.

I remember in 2010 losing a lot of races because we fielded dingbats.
Posted by: Blago at May 20, 2022 12:36 PM (STGfL)
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The trouble is they don't actually have to be dingbats. The Pravda media will convince people they are.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 20, 2022 01:15 PM (R0Tis)

323 We appreciate the confidence the country is showing in our party. Yes, you thought you were voting for something else, but we hope you will understand our need to generate vast amounts of money for ourselves.

Posted by: Corporate Republicans at May 20, 2022 01:15 PM (jaNSQ)

324 >>>Things that make you go hmmmm:

https://instapundit.com/521186/#respond

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 20, 2022 01:13 PM (lgeFv)

This is what you get when a vast majority of a population accepts their bullshite.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at May 20, 2022 01:15 PM (QYPq3)

325 303 269

There is only one kind of good "breaking news" re: Hillary: She. Gets. Indicted.

Hell will freeze over before that, of course.
Posted by: Ziba at May 20, 2022 01:12 PM (S1hrL)

What if she were to croak?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 20, 2022 01:15 PM (b2nrj)

326 This is exciting news. Obamacare will so totally be repealed now. And NPR will be defunded. And a wall will be funded. And what else, oh yeah abortion will be banned, and national gun CCW will be a thing. I cant wait.

Posted by: Joe XiDen at May 20, 2022 12:43 PM (wSIcO)

Go Team R, Go

Posted by: ... at May 20, 2022 01:16 PM (ntcFS)

327 That Greenwald piece on Wallace

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She's a genius I tell ya!

Tom Elliott
@tomselliott
MSNBC's @NicolleDWallace: "Why doesn't the left come out with laws [against] illegal guns?"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 20, 2022 01:16 PM (FVME7)

328 To Whom Ever Gives 2 Schnitz:

Internal wave counts of the price action on the SPX now indicate an A wave target price somewhere around 3560, possibly as low as 3450.

If it comes quickly it will look and feel like capitulation, which would be a nice precursor to a face ripping B wave rally.

This is my personal count. The best EW guy I know of has a target of 3670ish.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at May 20, 2022 01:16 PM (MkuC5)

329 Leftist Nutjobs From Across the Country Head to Southern Atlanta Autonomous Zone
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SAAZ?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks at May 20, 2022 01:11 PM (FVME7)

I don't think the anarchists are going to like the Atlanta zone much at all. Seattle had a bunch of cosplaying white soyboys running things, some were violent but most were idiots.

Atlanta is gonna be full of stonecold gangbangers, who will bust a cap in yo' ass if you look at them sideways.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 20, 2022 01:16 PM (trdmm)

330 318 316
I am glad to hear that Nadler will have competition from another Dem.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

They should fight it out to Star Trek fighting music.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 20, 2022 01:14 PM (63Dwl)

Sumo wrestling.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at May 20, 2022 01:14 PM (eGTCV)

That ain't mud leaking from Nadler's pants...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 01:17 PM (ynpvh)

331 In other news, I just read this morning that hepatitis is spiking across America with over 180 cases among children in about half the states. Source is "Unknown."

Yeah...right...

Posted by: Diogenes at May 20, 2022 01:17 PM (anj39)

332 After the coming election, I for one am eagerly looking forward to Republican efforts to drain the swamp. Of us.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at May 20, 2022 01:17 PM (jaNSQ)

333 There are so many tent cities springing up around GA it's crazy.
Posted by: banana Dream

Why ?

Posted by: JT at May 20, 2022 01:17 PM (arJlL)

334 Although I'm not sure how you hold 75% of the presidency...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 12:50 PM (ynpvh)

I'd estimate Biden only has about 23% or so...

Posted by: Inogame at May 20, 2022 01:17 PM (53oGX)

335 Colin Kaepernick Is About to Become a (Honorary) Doctor for Some Reason

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And your sorry ass hasn't done a damn thing while Colin Kaepernick was becoming every bit as much a doctor as Dr. Jill.
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*golf clap*

Posted by: appreciated at May 20, 2022 01:17 PM (MrGix)

336 325 303 269

There is only one kind of good "breaking news" re: Hillary: She. Gets. Indicted.

Hell will freeze over before that, of course.
Posted by: Ziba at May 20, 2022 01:12 PM (S1hrL)

What if she were to croak?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 20, 2022 01:15 PM (b2nrj)

But who would manage that suicide?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 01:17 PM (ynpvh)

337 This is exciting news. Obamacare will so totally be repealed now. And NPR will be defunded. And a wall will be funded. And what else, oh yeah abortion will be banned, and national gun CCW will be a thing. I cant wait.
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Don't forget a balanced budget amendment and banning burning the American flag!

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 20, 2022 01:18 PM (Zf0+a)

338 A nominal Republican congress, if it happens really doesn't change the political equation. If you thought Obama and his ilk ran roughshod over congress you ain't seen nuffin' yet.

And the protestations will be minimal.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 20, 2022 01:18 PM (BFigT)

339 100 The GOP will win the House, by a lot. Just not worried, but this makes it even better.

It's the Senate I'm worried about and my fear is we're going to have some retard candidates that "should" win in this cycle but are just going to be a bridge too far for even pissed off voters.

I remember in 2010 losing a lot of races because we fielded dingbats.
Posted by: Blago at May 20, 2022 12:36 PM (STGfL)

The trouble is they don't actually have to be dingbats. The Pravda media will convince people they are.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 20, 2022 01:15 PM (R0Tis)
===

And the gopE but mostly the gopE. Just like in 2010.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 20, 2022 01:18 PM (iDcra)

340 Internal wave counts of the price action on the SPX now indicate an A wave target price somewhere around 3560, possibly as low as 3450.

If it comes quickly it will look and feel like capitulation, which would be a nice precursor to a face ripping B wave rally.

Engrish, prease.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 20, 2022 01:18 PM (ZsR3z)

341 Stelter is married?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Married and has children. I can't even imagine the horror of pro-creating with that sweating, creepy clown.

Posted by: Cheri at May 20, 2022 01:18 PM (oiNtH)

342 There are so many fake conservatives. How come there are no fake leftists?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at May 20, 2022 01:19 PM (eGTCV)

343 I am glad to hear that Nadler will have competition from another Dem.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

They should fight it out to Star Trek fighting music.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 20, 2022 01:14 PM (63Dwl)

Sumo wrestling.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at May 20, 2022 01:14 PM (eGTCV)

A fart-off: https://tinyurl.com/2s3h6hyf

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 20, 2022 01:19 PM (2JVJo)

344 Colin Kaepernick Is About to Become a (Honorary) Doctor for Some Reason

There was a time in the past when I would have been upset at this or considered unjust. Now its just more confirmation how little a college degree means.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 01:19 PM (KZzsI)

345 342 There are so many fake conservatives. How come there are no fake leftists?
Posted by: N.L. Urker, there are chickens in my trench at May 20, 2022 01:19 PM (eGTCV)

there's no money in that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 20, 2022 01:20 PM (trdmm)

346 Nadler certainly has no personal knowledge of what lurks there!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 20, 2022 01:07 PM (tkyK5)

Still love the old joke where the doc tells the guy he needs to lose weight. Guy replies, "No kidding. My gut's so big, I can't see my weiner anymore. What should I do?"
Doc: "You should diet."
Guy: "Why? What color is it now?"

Posted by: Wally at May 20, 2022 01:20 PM (FJYfm)

347 Something must have happened that can't be explained within the rules of the system.

Hmm...interesting.

Posted by: Hadron Collider at May 20, 2022 01:20 PM (Xrfse)

348 314 Things that make you go hmmmm:

https://instapundit.com/521186/#respond
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 20, 2022 01:13 PM (lgeFv)

Well the participants in the exercise wouldn't be the villains( hypothetically) here, it'd be the guys who designed the exercise and ran it to see how the participants (representing the decision-making of major countries) would react.

It'd be like getting a group of pilots together and asking them how'd they'd handle various terrorist attack scenarios. Potentially not nefarious, but would be nefarious if the person who organized it was planning to launch such an attack.

The exercise itself doesn't look all that abnormal.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 20, 2022 01:20 PM (b2nrj)

349 I can't even imagine the horror of pro-creating with that sweating, creepy clown.

I'm right here, you know.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 20, 2022 01:21 PM (2JVJo)

350 If it were a movie you would have had the covid trigger a widespread panic-induced acceptance of a bioengineered injection of a substance that rendered a large segment of the population exposed and defenseless to monkeypox.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 20, 2022 01:21 PM (XlZ2m)

351 What does Stelter’s wife look like?

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 20, 2022 01:21 PM (RS4cl)

352 So I guess it's Gunt vs C*nt in the NY 10th.

Posted by: Future Bitch at May 20, 2022 01:21 PM (OzNIz)

353 The trouble is they don't actually have to be dingbats. The Pravda media will convince people they are.

Well that, and the Democrats can run a circus full of clowns and the voters shrug and pull the lever anyway.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 01:21 PM (KZzsI)

354 https://tinyurl.com/2p8j3kxs
Posted by: redridinghood at May 20, 2022 01:03 PM (NpAcC)

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At least the mainstream US press is all over this, right?

Right?

Posted by: 496 at May 20, 2022 01:21 PM (VJsqe)

355 Chaos always wins

like, ALWAYS

Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2022 01:21 PM (us2H3)

356 With the horde I am sure that this has already been brought up, but one of Biden's Security Officials was arrested in South Korea this week for being drunk and getting into a fight with someone outside of his hotel where the whole Biden gang is staying. Surprised that he was only drunk and belligerent and there was no hookers or blow involved. Top men.

Posted by: Cheri at May 20, 2022 01:21 PM (oiNtH)

357 Nood disinformation.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at May 20, 2022 01:22 PM (TNyrE)

358 Monkey Pox? Guess who has a big presence in central Africa?

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter Wynette at May 20, 2022 01:23 PM (oc1LF)

359 155 So Mordor is now part of Gondor?
Posted by: Dildo Nutbaggins at May 20, 2022 12:43 PM (TKZuJ)
________

Mordor has always been part of Gondor.

Posted by: Eeyore at May 20, 2022 01:23 PM (R0Tis)

360 355 Chaos always wins

like, ALWAYS

Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2022 01:21 PM (us2H3)

Yup. All systems trend towards it. You can get local increases in order, but at the cost of an even greater increase in entropy overall.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 20, 2022 01:23 PM (ynpvh)

361 I figure about half the current Senate GOPe caucus is less reliable than Manchin, and he's a dyed in the wool libtard on most issues (though I am grateful to him for his vote on Build Bigger Bullshit).

So if we win five new Senate seats I don't think anything really changes there; they are as slimy after the election as before, and the 2024 election offers us another bite at the apple. But winning 50-60 House seats would be tremendous. Plenty of those new Members are going to be MAGA.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at May 20, 2022 01:23 PM (jaNSQ)

362
I said this about Crenshaw a month ago. If you live in his district, vote D.
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On the one hand, he's stupid enough to think this means he needs to move further left.
OTOH, he'll move further left, and easier to remove.

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 20, 2022 01:23 PM (Zf0+a)

363 >>> There are so many tent cities springing up around GA it's crazy.
Posted by: banana Dream

Why ?
Posted by: JT at May 20, 2022 01:17 PM (arJlL)

I don't know. I don't think they're getting a lot of state support. I could see the homeless moving in during colder seasons but it's getting hotter now and everyone is starting their yearly complaints about humidity. There are huge camps around ATL and smaller ones in Savannah. I don't know the cause.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 20, 2022 01:23 PM (XlZ2m)

364 willowed again

Posted by: Hadron Collider at May 20, 2022 01:24 PM (Xrfse)

365 Mook just submarined Cankles

tried to throw her under the bus but her ass wouldn't fit

Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2022 01:24 PM (us2H3)

366 It'd be like getting a group of pilots together and asking them how'd they'd handle various terrorist attack scenarios. Potentially not nefarious, but would be nefarious if the person who organized it was planning to launch such an attack.

The exercise itself doesn't look all that abnormal.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at May 20, 2022 01:20 PM (b2nrj)
***

Concur. These kinds of exercises are relatively normal. I used to support similar things at the War College from time to time as a way to train senior level players in National Security positions.
If anything, I think the timeline is off.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 20, 2022 01:24 PM (anj39)

367 The exercise itself doesn't look all that abnormal.

I would normally 100% agree if one certain worldwide thing didn't recently happen.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 20, 2022 01:25 PM (lgeFv)

368 164 One of the hardest things to do when faced with evil and injustice is to be patient. In time, all such systems and governments collapse, its just rough to live through them while they are active. We are properly called to fight against evil and to oppose injustice, but we should not stoop as low as our foes and lose sight of what we're trying to accomplish.

In frustration and outrage it is easy to focus on the evil of our enemy and the need to defeat them at the expense of the very principles and ideals we are fighting for.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 20, 2022 12:45 PM (KZzsI)

If someone comes at me with a knife threatening to gut me, I'm not going to give a shit what's moral or not. I'm going to pull and shoot.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at May 20, 2022 01:25 PM (Qhnrt)

369 There are huge camps around ATL and smaller ones in Savannah. I don't know the cause.
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Poor decisions.

Posted by: and some bad luck, but mostly poor decisions at May 20, 2022 01:26 PM (5VVYl)

370 the most successful people I've ever known thrive in chaotic situations

myself included

Posted by: REDACTED at May 20, 2022 01:27 PM (us2H3)

371 369 There are huge camps around ATL and smaller ones in Savannah. I don't know the cause.

White privilege, bitches!

Posted by: Screeching Fat Black Whore at May 20, 2022 01:29 PM (S/GqB)

372 340 Internal wave counts of the price action on the SPX now indicate an A wave target price somewhere around 3560, possibly as low as 3450.

If it comes quickly it will look and feel like capitulation, which would be a nice precursor to a face ripping B wave rally.

Engrish, prease.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 20, 2022 01:18 PM (ZsR3z)

The S&P 500 has been grinding out a bear market correction since last September. Often markets end bearish phases with something a bit more scary, and this is often called capitulation.

Capitulation is when CNBC says the blood is LITERALLY flowing in the streets.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at May 20, 2022 01:31 PM (MkuC5)

373 Chaos always wins

like, ALWAYS
==
well i guess depends on "always" or "wins".

I mean like at some point, you were incipent -- a wad of goo hurled blindly into a steamy void, until a lucky meeting with a ready egg, organized sufficiently over time to get to the point of you -- thinking that thought and typing it down.

Not to mention the biosphere of earth has maintained a remarkably narrow index of biological order for millions of years, without much help from the supposed premier organizers on earth.

Posted by: chaos theory is like missing the point of fireworks at May 20, 2022 01:33 PM (zYDCR)

374 371 369 There are huge camps around ATL and smaller ones in Savannah. I don't know the cause.

I'm seeing reports the Leftists are conducting weapons training at one of the local ranges, as well.

Under the guise of 2A freedoms.

Can't make this stuff up, and I'm glad we're not there anymore.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at May 20, 2022 01:33 PM (MkuC5)

375 Stallone as Marion Cobretti in Cobra: "As long as we play by these bullshit rules and the killer doesn't, we're gonna lose."
Posted by: Elric Blade at May 20, 2022 01:13 PM (iFTx/)

"I am the cure!"
- Marion "cobretti" Fausi

Posted by: Inogame at May 20, 2022 01:38 PM (53oGX)

376 Districts should be drawn such that the sum of the borders is minimised.

Posted by: Jamaica on the Sheepscot at May 20, 2022 01:40 PM (Dge/S)

377 Nood FJB.

Posted by: CZ = FNG, Free Republic of Florida at May 20, 2022 01:42 PM (MkuC5)

378 The homeless in Ga. look like vagrants but are really commie scum come to help Tank.

Posted by: Jamaica on the Sheepscot at May 20, 2022 01:47 PM (Dge/S)

379 Gerrymandering is like slow motion very high stakes Tetris.

What happens when you clear a level?

Posted by: Nearsighted Cyclopes at May 20, 2022 01:51 PM (4TZI4)

380 "Watergate is how we got to Trump"

That's some high-grade stupid right there.

Y'all step back, Big Papa fixin' to throw down...

(clears throat)

Bull Run is how we got to Stalingrad.

Posted by: klaftern at May 20, 2022 02:08 PM (taPSh)

381 "Those who go about slaying monsters should take care to not become monsters themselves." War is ugly and they are at war with us. Until recently many of us are still in denial.

In the 60s left had an argument between it's two main factions. Between the communists who wanted masculine war and domination and the feminine minded socialists who believed they would lose an armed conflict because they lacked the numbers and institutional power. So instead their plan was to embrace cultural subversion, demographic change, welfare dependence, courts and Brainwashing children through media amd education Etc. It would take decades but their gains would be deep and permanent. Their hegemon of control would have synergy between government, corporations, and media.

Still there is alot of room for Geneva convention type options between redcoats lined up for gentlemanly slaughter and Sherman's march to the sea. Gerymandering is legal and inevitable. Reality is If progressives ever start taking hits they change the rules. Just look at free speech. We need to approach them with a realist mindset or we will continue to repeat failures of the past.

Posted by: Shiggz (cool ranch MAGA) at May 20, 2022 02:10 PM (0SrVS)

382 Mordor has always been part of Gondor.
Posted by: Eeyore at May 20, 2022 01:23 PM (R0Tis)

*Furiously scribbles notes* keep going....

Posted by: Amazon's LOTR Prequel Writers Room at May 20, 2022 02:17 PM (WE8bV)

383 For years my assumption about Congress is this:

If dems win enough, we will lose our guns. Every Government protest from either side could be another tianamen square.

If GOP gains enough, abortion will be returned to the states.

Regardless DC will continue growing in it's control over our lives and resources. I believe I have been proven accurate thus far.

Posted by: Shiggz (cool ranch MAGA) at May 20, 2022 02:20 PM (0SrVS)

384 I should clarify. If Democrats come for guns, all but some deep red states will capitulate. DC will weaponize every penny of tax dollars they take from the people and give back to states with strings attached. Eventually either war or voluntary/involuntary secession.

Ideally under next GOP president, red states will seceed and reform their own constitutional federation. If you do it under dem president they will Sherman's march our asses before we can prepare to Ukraine their asses.

Posted by: Shiggz (cool ranch MAGA) at May 20, 2022 02:27 PM (0SrVS)

385 Well, now long under-represented NY Republicans have to turn out in Sweet Revenge Level numbers and they will earn a bit of power back in the state.

Posted by: SamIam at May 20, 2022 03:09 PM (oasF3)

386 Remember that the reason these districts can be drawn to include certain streets, down to a few houses, is because the democrats and their leftist enablers... especially big tech...know who votes how down to apartment buildings and houses.

The same technology they use to finesse the steal and manipulation of votes.

Targeted fraud.

Posted by: Dantes at May 20, 2022 03:24 PM (fVKtH)

387 Cry me a River Democrats

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at May 20, 2022 06:17 PM (wGqjj)

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