The Morning Rant: Samantha Power and the Catastrophe of Government-Imposed Organic Farming

In western countries, the modern left has its own religion, which I jokingly refer to as The Sustainable Organic Church of The Carbon Apocalypse. While it’s fun to mock them, their religion is a death cult. Their goals of eliminating carbon energy and eliminating modern agriculture would kill an unthinkable number of people.

Sri Lanka banned all non-organic pesticides and fertilizers in 2021 and the results were, well, apocalyptic.

I’ll get to that in just a moment, but first, here is Samantha Power, a Biden official with the title of “Administrator of the United States Agency for International Development,” gushing about using the current fertilizer shortage as a catalyst to replace modern agriculture with fertilizer-free, organic agriculture.

Fertilizer shortages are real now because Russia is a big exporter of fertilizer. And even though fertilizer is not sanctioned, less fertilizer is coming out of Russia.
As a result, we're working with countries to think about natural solutions like manure and compost, and this may hasten transitions that would have been in the interest of farmers to make eventually anyways, so...
Never let a crisis go to waste.

“Never let a crisis go to waste.” This ghoul is willing to starve the world in her pursuit of organic religious obedience.

We have a recent example of just how quickly her organic utopia can collapse an economy and starve its people. Sri Lanka just tried it.

IN SRI LANKA, ORGANIC FARMING WENT CATASTROPHICALLY WRONG - A nationwide experiment is abandoned after producing only misery [Foreign Policy – 3/05/2022]

Sri Lankan President Gotabaya Rajapaksa promised in his 2019 election campaign to transition the country’s farmers to organic agriculture over a period of 10 years. Last April, Rajapaksa’s government made good on that promise, imposing a nationwide ban on the importation and use of synthetic fertilizers and pesticides and ordering the country’s 2 million farmers to go organic.

So how’d it go?

The result was brutal and swift. Against claims that organic methods can produce comparable yields to conventional farming, domestic rice production fell 20 percent in just the first six months. Sri Lanka, long self-sufficient in rice production, has been forced to import $450 million worth of rice even as domestic prices for this staple of the national diet surged by around 50 percent.

So a country that had been able to feed itself was suddenly unable to feed itself, thanks to organic farming. It’s a good thing there were still other less-enlightened countries producing non-organic rice for Sri Lanka to import, thus averting starvation.

The ban also devastated the nation’s tea crop, its primary export and source of foreign exchange.

Having destroyed its tea crop that it formerly exported, Sri Lanka now lost a major source of foreign revenue. So where would the revenue come from to pay for the imported rice needed to stave off starvation? Yeah, that proved to be a problem. The country’s currency collapsed.

Faced with angry protests, soaring inflation, and the collapse of Sri Lanka’s currency, the government finally suspended the policy for several key crops—including tea, rubber, and coconut—last month, although it continues for some others.

The good news is that the government is backing away from the fertilizer ban. The bad news is how much human suffering that policy brought on in such a short time.

Human costs have been even greater. Prior to the pandemic’s outbreak, the country had proudly achieved upper-middle-income status. Today, half a million people have sunk back into poverty. Soaring inflation and a rapidly depreciating currency have forced Sri Lankans to cut down on food and fuel purchases as prices surge.

At its most benign, organic food is a status-seeking way of buying groceries, providing a fancy hood ornament for basic foodstuffs, with consumers also getting a satisfying dose of smugness as a reward for the premium they paid. For farmers willing to take lower crop yields in exchange for higher margins on their agricultural products, why not? More power to them if the math works.

However, while lower crop yields on a small fraction of farmland are no big deal. Lower crop yields across ALL farmland set the stage for mass food shortages.

Replacing “artificial” fertilizers with manure is simply not a substitute. There isn’t enough land or livestock to produce enough manure. And by the way, the same people agitating to eliminate artificial fertilizers are also the ones agitating to eliminate meat. No meat production equals no manure production.

“Poverty is the natural state of mankind” goes the famous phrase. Sri Lanka plunged its country into food shortages, poverty, and economic collapse in very short order, thanks to organic agriculture. That debacle is a reminder of just how quickly we can revert to mankind’s natural state.

Given the opportunity to fully implement their green agenda, Samantha Power and her co-religionists would inflict widescale poverty on the US as surely and swiftly as happened in Sri Lanka.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

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1 Bitch

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 06, 2022 11:03 AM (8gtDH)

2 This is a bunch of crap.
Well, less now than last year, but still.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 06, 2022 11:03 AM (anj39)

3 If a bunch of poor people had to die to make rich people feel better about their virtue, then it was worth it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 06, 2022 11:03 AM (LvTSG)

4 top 5

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at May 06, 2022 11:04 AM (p03vF)

5 Called em

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 06, 2022 11:04 AM (8gtDH)

6 Sam got her knowledge of fertilizers working on a farm?

Posted by: BignJames at May 06, 2022 11:04 AM (AwYPR)

7 So where would the revenue come from to pay for the imported rice needed to stave off starvation?

They still have boys right?

Posted by: Athur C Clarke at May 06, 2022 11:05 AM (ESjRY)

8 Compost Powers. For da Earf.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 06, 2022 11:05 AM (nO70a)

9 Ground up MAGAs are not only a good fertilizer, but the population reduction decreases the overall food production requirements.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 06, 2022 11:05 AM (t3/qz)

10 9 Ground up MAGAs are not only a good fertilizer, but the population reduction decreases the overall food production requirements.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 06, 2022 11:05 AM (t3/qz)

=========

A good way to decrease the surplus population.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 06, 2022 11:06 AM (LvTSG)

11 Organic manure, especially human waste, also increases the spread of parasites in crops.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 06, 2022 11:06 AM (XvPQV)

12 These people are dangerous idiots.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 06, 2022 11:07 AM (BFigT)

13 Organic manure, especially human waste, also increases the spread of parasites in crops.

Learn something new every day!

Posted by: Chipotle at May 06, 2022 11:07 AM (ESjRY)

14 11 Organic manure, especially human waste, also increases the spread of parasites in crops.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 06, 2022 11:06 AM (XvPQV)

========

Listen, we only stopped using non-organic things because we hate mother Earth and wish for her to suffer.

No other reason.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 06, 2022 11:07 AM (LvTSG)

15 I am starting to think there is a plot to starve people, either for power's sake or as a way of getting to that '500 million world population' goal

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 06, 2022 11:07 AM (XvPQV)

16 If Biden's bullshit could grow food, we'd be giving away food.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, If Not Now, When? at May 06, 2022 11:07 AM (FVME7)

17 How, pray tell, do you use manure if you eliminate cows because of cow farts?

Samantha Power's expertise in industrial-scale farming is equivalent to that of Mike Bloomberg, when he told us all how easy it is: "You put a seed in the ground and water it."

Posted by: red speck at May 06, 2022 11:07 AM (gS3OW)

18 They see it as a feature, not a bug.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at May 06, 2022 11:08 AM (EpAq9)

19 Samantha Stevens>>>>>>>>>Samantha Powers.

Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 06, 2022 11:08 AM (R+bqd)

20 "Sri Lanka plunged its country into food shortages, poverty, and economic collapse in very short order, thanks to organic agriculture. "

And they did it on purpose, they went in with eyes wide open.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at May 06, 2022 11:08 AM (bVYXr)

21
I got it! We'll end all these "private" farms and join all agricultural workers into collectives. We'll call them "kolkhozes".

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 06, 2022 11:09 AM (/U27+)

22 Replacing “artificial” fertilizers with manure is simply not a substitute. There isn’t enough land or livestock to produce enough manure.

Only the left could think that returning to poop is the way to the future. Parasites, runoff, E. Coli infestations, and loss of most crop production are all benefits of this approach.

Kenny Rogers was prescient in his song Lucille.

You picked a fine time to leave me Lucille

Four hundred children just crapped in the field

Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2022 11:09 AM (ZsR3z)

23 The mRNA vaccine should be mandated world wide !!!

GMO foods are dangerous and it's better third world countries starve than give them this food to eat !!!!!

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 06, 2022 11:09 AM (27hQX)

24 I got it! We'll end all these "private" farms and join all agricultural workers into collectives. We'll call them "kolkhozes".

Hey guys....xnay on the Holomodor stuff until after we will!

Posted by: Zelensky at May 06, 2022 11:09 AM (ESjRY)

25 Given the intellectual capacity of this....err...person, xhe probably got the idea from watching that movie of the guy abandoned on Mars who grew potatoes in poop.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 06, 2022 11:09 AM (anj39)

26 Top. (Wo)Men.

Posted by: Zeera at May 06, 2022 11:10 AM (a9VMH)

27 Powers bones would make an excellent fertilizer. Just food for thought.

Leftists in general and leftist wymminn especially, will be the death of modern civilization.

Posted by: Archer at May 06, 2022 11:10 AM (gmo/4)

28 Because hayseed sodbusting farmers are too stupid to know what is in their best interests so we have to tell them and tell them and tell them and eventually force them to hasten the change in their ways to their best interests.

Posted by: Samantha Powers, noted agriculture expert at May 06, 2022 11:10 AM (4I/2K)

29
"I don't care about your experience. I went to Harvard. Harvard! Got it?"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 06, 2022 11:10 AM (/U27+)

30 that movie of the guy abandoned on Mars who grew potatoes in poop.

A significant portion of lefty "knowledge" is gained from watching movies - and I am deadly serious about this.

Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2022 11:10 AM (ESjRY)

31 My uncle served in the Korean War. He said the troopships knew when they were within 50 miles of the peninsula because it smelled like s***.

Why wouldn't we want that here?

Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2022 11:11 AM (ZsR3z)

32
... The Sustainable Organic Church of The Carbon Apocalypse ... but first, here is Samantha Power, a Biden official with the title of “Administrator of the United States Agency for International Development,” gushing about using the current fertilizer shortage as a catalyst to replace modern agriculture with fertilizer-free, organic agriculture.

Right off, I can identify a substantial number of "resources" who would perform an inestimable service to humankind by stepping forward for composting.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at May 06, 2022 11:11 AM (3l5Yq)

33 hiya

Posted by: JT at May 06, 2022 11:11 AM (arJlL)

34 15 >>> I am starting to think there is a plot to starve people, either for power's sake or as a way of getting to that '500 million world population' goal.

Between vaccines and other means of devastation, the globalists have begun a population cull to meet one of their arbitrary "sustainability" numbers -- just like their global warming edicts are fixated on suspending a fluctuating ecosystem in abeyance for no particular reason.

Posted by: red speck at May 06, 2022 11:11 AM (gS3OW)

35 The Sustainable Organic Church of The Carbon Apocalypse

SOCCA? Its called Futbol you know nothing!

Posted by: Some Liberal at May 06, 2022 11:11 AM (ESjRY)

36 Stephanie Powers>>>>>>>>>Samantha Powers.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 06, 2022 11:11 AM (anj39)

37 the real issue is the mineralization of the soils. Neither chemical fertilizer or organic types address that. The obesity problem is caused by the poor nutritional values of the foods we eat.

But you are never going to get opinions from knowledgeable people in this administration.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at May 06, 2022 11:12 AM (5HBd1)

38 I am sure that John Lurch Kerry, Leonardo Di Caprio, and Gore will feel really bad about all of this as they jet around sipping their Veuve Clicquot and preparing for their next yacht vacay.

Posted by: Cheri at May 06, 2022 11:12 AM (oiNtH)

39 ya gotta kind of figure maybe there was a reason we transitioned away from organic in the first place.

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at May 06, 2022 11:12 AM (sGtp+)

40 Power always looks like she's about to cry.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 06, 2022 11:12 AM (Qy7kP)

41 Parents tell me stories of living on Guam as a child. Always beautiful produce available in the local markets versus sad canned veggies at the commissary. But...the veggies were fertilized with what the Guamians referred to as "night soil" (human shit) and would make most westerners sick as dogs.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at May 06, 2022 11:12 AM (EpAq9)

42 19 Samantha Stevens>>>>>>>>>Samantha Powers.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 06, 2022 11:08 AM (R+bqd)

#wateriswet

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at May 06, 2022 11:12 AM (BgMrQ)

43 At its most benign, organic food is a status-seeking way of buying groceries, providing a fancy hood ornament for basic foodstuffs, with consumers also getting a satisfying dose of smugness as a reward for the premium they paid.

There is a reason we got away from "organics" 100 years ago.

Very few "natural" ANYTHING scales up to commercial size, be it farming or energy.

Solar/wind might power a home. Won't scale up for commercial applications. Same with farming. You MIGHT be able to grow/can enough food for your family if you have enough land, but you aren't feeding your town with what little you can produce.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 06, 2022 11:12 AM (H4qIP)

44 My uncle served in the Korean War. He said the troopships knew when they were within 50 miles of the peninsula because it smelled like s***.

Kimchi!!!!

Posted by: Archer at May 06, 2022 11:12 AM (gmo/4)

45 the same people agitating to eliminate artificial fertilizers are also the ones agitating to eliminate meat. No meat production equals no manure production.

[buck.throckmorton at protonmail dot com]
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at 11:00 AM

This was the 1st thing I thought of when I read her statement.

Now what was the name of one of the horseman of the apocalypse? Oh, yeah, Famine!

And if you break all modern agriculture Malthus was absolutely correct. We're all going to die.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 06, 2022 11:13 AM (l+kMy)

46 Power always looks like she's about to cry.
Posted by: Duke Lowell

Yes, and seriously needs to eat a few cheeseburgers.

Posted by: Cheri at May 06, 2022 11:13 AM (oiNtH)

47 If you assume the Left/Democrats/Progressives are demonic, murderous psychopaths, you'll understand them a lot better.

They worship death.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 06, 2022 11:13 AM (8gxrg)

48 Remember, they are trying to bait us, but since they will not succeed so they will instigate it. We didn't start the fight, but we'll be willing to finish it.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at May 06, 2022 11:14 AM (QYPq3)

49 Stephanie Powers = Powers Booth >>>>>>>>>Samantha Powers.

But not in a gay way.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2022 11:14 AM (ZsR3z)

50 We are all kulaks now.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at May 06, 2022 11:14 AM (II3Gr)

51 Much like true Communism has never been tried, true sustainable farming has never been implemented.

In other words, this time, it will work, swearsies!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at May 06, 2022 11:14 AM (5pTK/)

52 Protein from the sea!

- That silver robot in Logan's Run

Posted by: Archer at May 06, 2022 11:14 AM (gmo/4)

53 wow, i wasn't aware of the sri lankan experiment. it's a bloody shame no one outside of a few of us on the right will hear about it...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at May 06, 2022 11:14 AM (p03vF)

54 Rule of thumb: Never take advice from anyone who looks as pained as Samantha Power's resting face.

Posted by: red speck at May 06, 2022 11:14 AM (gS3OW)

55 They worship death.

Yours, not theirs.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2022 11:15 AM (ZsR3z)

56 I am starting to think there is a plot to starve people, either for power's sake or as a way of getting to that '500 million world population' goal.

Between vaccines and other means of devastation, the globalists have begun a population cull to meet one of their arbitrary "sustainability" numbers -- just like their global warming edicts are fixated on suspending a fluctuating ecosystem in abeyance for no particular reason.
Posted by: red speck

What they don't realize, is IF the population got that low, they won't be living like the King of England or Lords, but just like the peasants with shit all over them.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 06, 2022 11:15 AM (H4qIP)

57 52 Protein from the sea!

- That silver robot in Logan's Run

Posted by: Archer at May 06, 2022 11:14 AM (gmo/4)

Soylent Green...also protein from the "sea".

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 06, 2022 11:15 AM (ynpvh)

58 Did someone just mention Jennie Agutters boobies?

Posted by: Farmer Bob at May 06, 2022 11:15 AM (EpAq9)

59 The yield per acre of organic grown food is far less than non-organic.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 06, 2022 11:15 AM (27hQX)

60 I never buy anything labeled "organic."

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 06, 2022 11:15 AM (sWM8x)

61
Now what was the name of one of the horseman of the apocalypse? Oh, yeah, Pronoun Denier ~~Famine~~!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at May 06, 2022 11:15 AM (3l5Yq)

62 I showed them white folks how to plant corn using their own poop.

Posted by: Squanto at May 06, 2022 11:16 AM (4I/2K)

63 What did Communists use before candles?

Electric light bulbs!

Industrial fertilizers are vastly superior to manure. That is why every major agricultural region of the world SWITCHED to them.

Samantha Power is a moron! (with a small "m")

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 06, 2022 11:16 AM (tkyK5)

64 Gee.... its almost like if you screw up the methods of production, the economy tanks...

/Adds up how much gas this roadtrip has cost...

Yup.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 06, 2022 11:16 AM (D3qOt)

65 55 They worship death.

Yours, not theirs.
Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2022 11:15 AM (ZsR3z)

Like the mullahs and ayatollahs. You never see them strapping on a bomb vest now do you?

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at May 06, 2022 11:16 AM (II3Gr)

66 Farmers that have cattle have manure spreaders ... so they are already using up all the manure available as fertilizer.

GMOs are pretty awesome imo, but yeah, some farmers grow some non-GMO in some fields to get the premium .. probably in their cleaner fields, and not every year. But the GMOs also allow for cleaner fields, meaning fewer chemicals, and safer chemicals.

All that extra CO2 in the air helps as well.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 06, 2022 11:16 AM (Cus5s)

67 53 wow, i wasn't aware of the sri lankan experiment. it's a bloody shame no one outside of a few of us on the right will hear about it...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at May 06, 2022 11:14 AM (p03vF)

If leftists want this so much, let leftists go to organic farming communes and see how well it works. I'll pass or their produce...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 06, 2022 11:16 AM (ynpvh)

68 Listen, we only stopped using non-organic things because we hate mother Earth and wish for her to suffer.

No other reason.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 06, 2022 11:07 AM (LvTSG)

Well nature is willing to kill us, all the time.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 06, 2022 11:16 AM (XvPQV)

69 What they don't realize, is IF the population got that low, they won't be living like the King of England or Lords, but just like the peasants with shit all over them.

Personally, I'd like to see a much lower human population, but achieved by people choosing not to have kids, not genocide. What's the optimal number? Who knows? I'd guess maybe 3B.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2022 11:16 AM (ZsR3z)

70 68 Well nature is willing to kill us, all the time.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 06, 2022 11:16 AM (XvPQV)

=======

Is that you, Werner Herzog?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 06, 2022 11:17 AM (LvTSG)

71 Now what was the name of one of the horseman of the apocalypse? Oh, yeah, Famine!

And if you break all modern agriculture Malthus was absolutely correct. We're all going to die.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron

Long pig.
Donner Party.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 06, 2022 11:17 AM (H4qIP)

72 My uncle served in the Korean War. He said the troopships knew when they were within 50 miles of the peninsula because it smelled like s***.

Why wouldn't we want that here?

Posted by: Archimedes

I flew into Seoul in 1989. It smelled like Kim Chi from 5K feet, which I thought was kinda fun.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 06, 2022 11:17 AM (8gxrg)

73 Power always looks like she's about to cry.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 06, 2022 11:12 AM (Qy7kP)

I'd cry too if I was as ugly as her.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at May 06, 2022 11:17 AM (ZSK0i)

74 62 I showed them white folks how to plant corn using their own poop.
Posted by: Squanto at May 06, 2022 11:16 AM (4I/2K)

Liar! That was me!!!

Posted by: Squatto at May 06, 2022 11:17 AM (6FeV1)

75 I've been eagerly awaiting the Spring report from the man who farms a tiny patch I have back in Iowa. That report finally arrived this week. It was a mixed bag. He's confident that he has it covered for this season but not at all sanguine about the following ones. And yes, fertilizer is his primary concern.

It sounds like the worst may hit beginning this coming winter, depending on the 2022 crop. Sure, we're already seeing shortages but those are mostly manufactured goods. When wheat is no longer available the name of the game will change.

The Fall report should be interesting.

Posted by: creeper at May 06, 2022 11:17 AM (cTCuP)

76 I continue to state: the only humans that are carbon neutral are dead.

Posted by: blaster at May 06, 2022 11:17 AM (9otr5)

77
Sick, degenerate, crack-whore-looking elitist who knows nothing of reality.

Married to Cass "nudge-nudge" into a mass grave Sunstein.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2022 11:17 AM (s2VJv)

78 I suspect the closest Samantha Power ever got to a farm was driving by one.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 06, 2022 11:17 AM (KATBx)

79 6 Sam got her knowledge of fertilizers working on a farm?

Posted by: BignJames at May 06, 2022 11:04 AM

She is an expert in slinging bullsh*t. Does that count?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 06, 2022 11:17 AM (tkyK5)

80 Samantha Power and the Catastrophe of Government-Imposed Organic Farmin

--

Thus is like Mao all over again. Stalin too I guess

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at May 06, 2022 11:17 AM (9HeEo)

81
Samantha "Absolute" Power.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2022 11:17 AM (s2VJv)

82 Top. (Wo)Men.

Posted by: Zeera

"Woman! Whoaaaaaaaaa, man!"

Posted by: Sharkman at May 06, 2022 11:17 AM (8gxrg)

83 And if you break all modern agriculture Malthus was absolutely correct. We're all going to die.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 06, 2022 11:13 AM (l+kMy)

Go long on long pig.

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at May 06, 2022 11:18 AM (VGRuw)

84 These people should be dropped off in the middle of nowhere with nothing but a shovel. Then tell them to feed themselves.

Idiots.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 06, 2022 11:18 AM (YIVH2)

85 The same hippies that like these ideas get their weed from a guy who grows it inside under electric lights with chemical fertilizer. Not exactly Einstein types.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 06, 2022 11:18 AM (AHqtU)

86 78 I suspect the closest Samantha Power ever got to a farm was driving by one.
Posted by: irongrampa at May 06, 2022 11:17 AM (KATBx)

"Keep that scarecrow away from me!"

- - Max Yasgur

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2022 11:18 AM (s2VJv)

87 79 6 Sam got her knowledge of fertilizers working on a farm?

Posted by: BignJames at May 06, 2022 11:04 AM

She is an expert in slinging bullsh*t. Does that count?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 06, 2022 11:17 AM (tkyK5)

If only we could tap the hot air and bullshit from politicians. It'd solve energy and fertilizer problems in one fell swoop.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 06, 2022 11:19 AM (ynpvh)

88 If leftists want this so much, let leftists go to organic farming communes and see how well it works.

Remember the "farm" at CHAZ? I doubt any of the "crops" survived a week.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2022 11:19 AM (ZsR3z)

89 that movie of the guy abandoned on Mars who grew potatoes in poop.
A significant portion of lefty "knowledge" is gained from watching movies - and I am deadly serious about this.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2022 11:10 AM (ESjRY)

I don't understand it.

I did it just like the movie. I soaked myself in chemicals, let myself get struck by lightning, and -

no powers of super-speed like the Flash at all!

Now, I look like a one-armed bald Ken doll made out of bubble gum!

I'm suing someone. *shakes fist*

Posted by: Libtard Follower of Movie Science at May 06, 2022 11:19 AM (5NkmN)

90 If leftists want this so much, let leftists go to organic farming communes and see how well it works. I'll pass or their produce...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 06, 2022 11:16 AM (ynpvh)

Dah, because putting people from cities, and making them farm, works soooooo well...

Posted by: Stalin at May 06, 2022 11:19 AM (D3qOt)

91
Rachel Carson, William Ruckelshaus and the blood libeling of DDT which killed millions of poor black and brown people.

But, white supremacy, or something.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2022 11:19 AM (s2VJv)

92 As a result, we're working with countries to think about natural solutions like manure and compost

*********

I say, "Never let waste go to a crisis!!"

Posted by: Muldoon at May 06, 2022 11:19 AM (kXYt5)

93
Well nature is willing to kill us, all the time.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 06, 2022 11:16 AM (XvPQV)

Mother Nature is aptly named, considering its murderous, unpredictable, and callous character.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at May 06, 2022 11:19 AM (II3Gr)

94 Austin Powers >>>>>>>>> Samantha Power in an attractive woman pageant!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 06, 2022 11:19 AM (tkyK5)

95 8 Compost Powers

austin powers > compost powers

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at May 06, 2022 11:20 AM (sGtp+)

96 Samantha Power - The stupid is strong in that one.

- Obi-Wan

Posted by: Archer at May 06, 2022 11:20 AM (gmo/4)

97 that movie of the guy abandoned on Mars who grew potatoes in poop.
A significant portion of lefty "knowledge" is gained from watching movies - and I am deadly serious about this.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2022 11:10 AM (ESjRY)

Posted by: naturalfake at May 06, 2022 11:20 AM (5NkmN)

98 I watched a doc where India chose to starve people rather than to accept a monsoon resistant genetically produced rice seedling immediately and instead required it be created the old fashioned way by progressive hybrid splicing. IIRC it took about 8 years.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 06, 2022 11:20 AM (27hQX)

99 I mean, the Amish and Old Order Mennonites are going to weather this just fine. But damn few other people are going to be able to handle a serious crash.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 06, 2022 11:20 AM (XvPQV)

100 90 Dah, because putting people from cities, and making them farm, works soooooo well...

Posted by: Stalin

word.

Posted by: pol pot at May 06, 2022 11:21 AM (sGtp+)

101 If leftists want this so much, let leftists go to organic farming communes and see how well it works.

Remember the "farm" at CHAZ? I doubt any of the "crops" survived a week.
Posted by: Archimedes

"Why isn't it growing Todd?"
"I don't know Margo! I put the plant on the tarp!"

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 06, 2022 11:21 AM (H4qIP)

102 Did someone just mention Jennie Agutters boobies?

Posted by: Farmer Bob

Oblig.:

https://tinyurl.com/Jenny-Agutter-Soaked

Posted by: Sharkman at May 06, 2022 11:21 AM (8gxrg)

103 Use dung-fueled cooking fires for that piquant bbq flavor.

Posted by: Samantha Powers at May 06, 2022 11:21 AM (4I/2K)

104 100 90 Dah, because putting people from cities, and making them farm, works soooooo well...

Posted by: Stalin

word.

Please, please, please let me go back to the university. Farming sucks.

Posted by: Red Guards, after falling out of favor at May 06, 2022 11:22 AM (ZsR3z)

105 As a result, we're working with countries to think about natural solutions like manure and compost, and this may hasten transitions that would have been in the interest of farmers to make eventually anyways, so...
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Question for Powers: if the transition is in the best interests of farmers as you assert, then why have they not made that transitional already? What counter-market forces have been in play that prevented farmers from making this change on their own? If it is in their best interests but they by and large do *not* make the change, then to what do you attribute their irrationality? What is the basis of your assertion that this is the best thing for farmers, and what is the reasoning behind your belief that you understand the mechanics, chemistry, yield, market forces, hedging, markets and other aspects of the agriculture business better than farmers who do this for a living as opposed to those who make their living by advising foreigners as to government policy goals?

Thank you. I'll take the answer off the air.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2022 11:22 AM (DU+/6)

106 that movie of the guy abandoned on Mars who grew potatoes in poop.
A significant portion of lefty "knowledge" is gained from watching movies - and I am deadly serious about this.
Posted by: 18-1

MATT DAMON!!

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 06, 2022 11:22 AM (H4qIP)

107 Power always looks like she's about to cry.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 06, 2022 11:12 AM (Qy7kP)

She looks like a full on vegan. i.e. near death.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 06, 2022 11:23 AM (l+kMy)

108 Everyone knows you have to wipe out zombies, which aren't real and haven't killed anyone. But commies who are real and have killed millions keep getting put in charge.

Posted by: DaveA at May 06, 2022 11:23 AM (FhXTo)

109 The Fall report should be interesting.

Posted by: creeper

You might have to wait a while for it. Clarence Beeks has it.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 06, 2022 11:23 AM (8gxrg)

110 105 As a result, we're working with countries to think about natural solutions like manure and compost, and this may hasten transitions that would have been in the interest of farmers to make eventually anyways, so...
+++
Question for Powers: if the transition is in the best interests of farmers as you assert, then why have they not made that transitional already? What counter-market forces have been in play that prevented farmers from making this change on their own? If it is in their best interests but they by and large do *not* make the change, then to what do you attribute their irrationality? What is the basis of your assertion that this is the best thing for farmers, and what is the reasoning behind your belief that you understand the mechanics, chemistry, yield, market forces, hedging, markets and other aspects of the agriculture business better than farmers who do this for a living as opposed to those who make their living by advising foreigners as to government policy goals?

Thank you. I'll take the answer off the air.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2022 11:22 AM (DU+/6)

Flat Earth Mother-Gaia hater!

Posted by: Samantha Powers at May 06, 2022 11:23 AM (ynpvh)

111 If the land, men and beasts were not corrupted with abominations toward the Lord our God, we wouldn't need poison to make things grow.

The only thing that can save is a circumcised heart bent toward God in repentance and obedience, believing His Son, the Lamb of God, for salvation.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at May 06, 2022 11:23 AM (sI15f)

112 From my observations in Iraq circa 2010, USAID is the biggest grifting/money laundering operation in the whole of the USG.

Posted by: Bert G at May 06, 2022 11:23 AM (V+xqh)

113 that movie of the guy abandoned on Mars who grew potatoes in poop.
A significant portion of lefty "knowledge" is gained from watching movies - and I am deadly serious about this.
Posted by: 18-1 at May 06, 2022 11:10 AM (ESjRY)

Ahem.

That stupid "China Syndrome" movie from 1979!!!!

is why we can't have nuclear generated power.

19*fucking*79

They are all tremendously stupid sheep, but Yeah! Free-Thinking Sheep.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 06, 2022 11:23 AM (5NkmN)

114 106 that movie of the guy abandoned on Mars who grew potatoes in poop.
A significant portion of lefty "knowledge" is gained from watching movies - and I am deadly serious about this.
Posted by: 18-1

========

"It's possible to create bare subsistence farming methods using little more than human shit" = "industrial farming should be all natural."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 06, 2022 11:24 AM (LvTSG)

115 Power is married to Cass Sunstein.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 06, 2022 11:24 AM (PiwSw)

116 Remember the "farm" at CHAZ? I doubt any of the "crops" survived a week.
Posted by: Archimedes

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If that plot had truly thrived and say, tripled in size every week, the calories produced wouldn't have kept a family of 4 alive much less a whole CHAZ.

Also - @rickb223: good reference to Christmas Vacation - I laughed.

Posted by: 496 at May 06, 2022 11:24 AM (VJsqe)

117 I see JJ beat me to that factoid.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 06, 2022 11:24 AM (PiwSw)

118 It's just like the "directives" to move to EV's, solar, wind, beyond meat, organic this or that, etc. they've no idea how to get there but, damnit, just do it.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 06, 2022 11:24 AM (BFigT)

119 So Powers' agricultural ideal is North Korea.

Well alrighty then.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 06, 2022 11:24 AM (sWM8x)

120 Again, no concept of scale. Anyway I thought manure producing animals were bad for the environment.

Posted by: Javems at May 06, 2022 11:25 AM (/cvFN)

121 More degenerate know-nothings forcing their Religion of Idiocy on people who are subject to starving to death for the amusement of this Priestess. If organic farming and horse-drawn wagons really worked, they would still be the dominant methods. But they aren't. It makes it seems as though these folks are more interested in starving people out of existence than caring about "green" anything. As a supposed expert on genocide, Samantha knows how its done, a la collectivization of Ukraine in the 30's. More Fascist scum.

Posted by: Erik In Texas at May 06, 2022 11:25 AM (y1oa0)

122 The good news is that the government is backing away from the fertilizer ban. The bad news is how much human suffering that policy brought on in such a short time.
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Progress is difficult. Collapse is fairly easy. The more complex a society is - and the modern countries are extraordinarily complex indeed - the easier it is to make a mistake that fucks it all up virtually overnight. There are a lot of major supports and kicking them out willy-nilly isn't exactly a safe thing to do.

The worst part is that you don't necessarily know which of those supports are vital and which aren't. You do know for some of them, though. If your primary exports are agricultural, then kicking the "agriculture" strut out of your structure is a bad idea. If you have a fully industrialized modern economy, then kicking the "energy" strut out of your structure is also a bad idea.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2022 11:25 AM (DU+/6)

123 107 Power always looks like she's about to cry.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 06, 2022 11:12 AM (Qy7kP)

She looks like a full on vegan. i.e. near death.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at May 06, 2022 11:23 AM (l+kMy)

You think she looks bad? Wait until she inflicts the Holodomar on all of us. She'll look like Tank Abrams next to us,

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2022 11:25 AM (s2VJv)

124 114 106 that movie of the guy abandoned on Mars who grew potatoes in poop.
A significant portion of lefty "knowledge" is gained from watching movies - and I am deadly serious about this.
Posted by: 18-1
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"It's possible to create bare subsistence farming methods using little more than human shit" = "industrial farming should be all natural."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 06, 2022 11:24 AM (LvTSG)

Buh, Buh, But the Incas used shit to grow their potatoes...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 06, 2022 11:25 AM (ynpvh)

125 If the land, men and beasts were not corrupted with abominations toward the Lord our God, we wouldn't need poison to make things grow.

The only thing that can save is a circumcised heart bent toward God in repentance and obedience, believing His Son, the Lamb of God, for salvation.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at May 06, 2022 11:23 AM (sI15f)

How far towards salvation does a circumcised dick get me?

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 06, 2022 11:25 AM (4I/2K)

126 At its most benign, organic food is a status-seeking way of buying groceries, providing a fancy hood ornament for basic foodstuffs, with consumers also getting a satisfying dose of smugness as a reward for the premium they paid.

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And this is all it should be. Leave it to this and it will grow accordingly. The thing about status products is eventually most people seek it - if it is obtainable. So if organic food is as beneficial as people thing (its not), it will grow in popularity.

We will probably see more organic farming only because eventually you may have to grow your own crops to survive.

The benefit is it may restore some survivalist tendencies that have always served America well.

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at May 06, 2022 11:25 AM (sX1BW)

127 The movie "Soylent Green" takes place in....2022.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 06, 2022 11:25 AM (PiwSw)

128 124 Buh, Buh, But the Incas used shit to grow their potatoes...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 06, 2022 11:25 AM (ynpvh)

========

It's not like 99% of their population were in the trade of finding food.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 06, 2022 11:26 AM (LvTSG)

129 117 I see JJ beat me to that factoid.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 06, 2022 11:24 AM (PiwSw)

Nudge Nudge . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2022 11:26 AM (s2VJv)

130 105 Question for Powers: if the transition is in the best interests of farmers as you assert, then why have they not made that transitional already? What counter-market forces have been in play that prevented farmers from making this change on their own?

monsanto

Posted by: my facebook feed at May 06, 2022 11:26 AM (sGtp+)

131 119 So Powers' agricultural ideal is North Korea.

Well alrighty then.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 06, 2022 11:24 AM (sWM8x)

The left's idea of running the country is North Korea.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 06, 2022 11:26 AM (ynpvh)

132 Sam got her knowledge of fertilizers working on a farm?
Posted by: BignJames at May 06, 2022 11:04 AM (AwYPR)

They could get the manure from democrats; they are always full of shit.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 06, 2022 11:26 AM (2MxtK)

133 "This organic apple is simply bursting with flavor, nutrients, and fake virtue. But mostly fake virtue."

Posted by: Muldoon at May 06, 2022 11:26 AM (kXYt5)

134 There are a lot of major supports and kicking them out willy-nilly isn't exactly a safe thing to do.

You don't say.

Posted by: Chesterton's Gate at May 06, 2022 11:26 AM (ZsR3z)

135 European farming agencies have done some good work in figuring out ways to get more bang out of their fertilizer buck. The idea is not to eliminate artificial fertilizers, but to make better fertilizers and apply them more judiciously to get maximum crop yield. Less money spent on chemicals, less chemicals building up in the ground, maximized crop yields, etc.

There's always room for progress given ingenuity and technology. The "progressive" ideology has no interest in actual, tangible progress though. Just in the destruction of the Now in service of an impossible, nonsensical Then.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 06, 2022 11:26 AM (6FeV1)

136 Think I better try to put on weight while I can.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at May 06, 2022 11:26 AM (m51hW)

137 Samantha Powers doesn't know shit from Shinola.

Posted by: Archer at May 06, 2022 11:26 AM (gmo/4)

138 120 Again, no concept of scale. Anyway I thought manure producing animals were bad for the environment.

Posted by: Javems at May 06, 2022 11:25 AM (/cvFN)

Back in the day, cattle ate grasses that we could not eat, converting inedible grasses into edible protein. Tell me that's not making use of resources.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 06, 2022 11:27 AM (ynpvh)

139 115 Power is married to Cass Sunstein.

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 06, 2022 11:24 AM

Have they successfully reproduced?

If so, then I expect a rip in the space/time continuum when their child attends an Ivy school.

The universe cannot possibly survive such an ultra-dense object occupying a single point.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 06, 2022 11:27 AM (tkyK5)

140 I'm going to have to start patrolling the treeline along my property. The bark on those trees may become valuable in the dark winter months when there's nothing else to eat.

Posted by: 496 at May 06, 2022 11:27 AM (VJsqe)

141 No, it's not a question of what works. It's the scale of modern farming. We are not dealing with small individual farms any more. It's agribusiness. Powers is talking about her de-carbonization religion. Can't use chemical fertilizers because they come from oil.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at May 06, 2022 11:27 AM (5HBd1)

142 "This organic apple is simply bursting with flavor, nutrients, and fake virtue. But mostly fake virtue."

Posted by: Muldoon at May 06, 2022 11:26 AM (kXYt5)

And worms! Don't forget little green worms!

Posted by: Archer at May 06, 2022 11:27 AM (gmo/4)

143 Stock up on staples. Also ammo to defend what you have. It's gonna get right sporty if these people get their way.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 06, 2022 11:27 AM (Qy7kP)

144 "This organic apple is simply bursting with flavor, nutrients, and fake virtue. But mostly fake virtue."
Posted by: Muldoon at May 06, 2022 11:26 AM (kXYt5)

And no Alar!

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 06, 2022 11:28 AM (4I/2K)

145 125 If the land, men and beasts were not corrupted with abominations toward the Lord our God, we wouldn't need poison to make things grow.

The only thing that can save is a circumcised heart bent toward God in repentance and obedience, believing His Son, the Lamb of God, for salvation.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at May 06, 2022 11:23 AM (sI15f)

How far towards salvation does a circumcised dick get me?

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 06, 2022 11:25 AM (4I/2K)

Not even Kumala knows.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 06, 2022 11:28 AM (ynpvh)

146 Hopefully Archer-Daniels Midland is telling Powers to fuck off. Or have they joined the Woke?

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 06, 2022 11:28 AM (27hQX)

147 consumers also getting a satisfying dose of smugness as a reward for the premium they paid.

*******

$2.48 worth of feelgoodaboutyourself.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 06, 2022 11:28 AM (kXYt5)

148 Dah, because putting people from cities, and making them farm, works soooooo well...
Posted by: Stalin at May 06, 2022 11:19 AM (D3qOt)
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Even if they *want* to do it, it's hard. For how hard this is even when everyone is largely cooperative, look at Israel in the early independence period. Look at it literally, with pictures. Lots of middle-aged men in suits and nice shoes - many from American and Europe - trying to make agriculture happen with no experience as to how damned difficult it is. There is a reason many kibbutzim failed, and it isn't just that collectivism doesn't work. It was a rough-as-hell transition, even though the people there were there voluntarily and wanted to succeed. Add slavery into the mix and shit goes sideways even faster.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2022 11:28 AM (DU+/6)

149 128 124 Buh, Buh, But the Incas used shit to grow their potatoes...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 06, 2022 11:25 AM (ynpvh)

========

It's not like 99% of their population were in the trade of finding food.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 06, 2022 11:26 AM (LvTSG)

And it probably produced shitty potatos.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 06, 2022 11:28 AM (ynpvh)

150 >>> Oblig.:
https://tinyurl.com/Jenny-Agutter-Soaked
Posted by: Sharkman at May 06, 2022 11:21 AM (8gxrg)

"You will live the rest of your life in a bleak hostile world with few ways to defend yourself. Mutants will attack you at every turn, dangerous technologies threaten your life, and the few meager supplies you manage to scavage from the wasteland you'll have to share with your barely clothed companion Jenny Agutter. There will ..." Wh wh wait ... What was that last part again?

Posted by: banana Dream at May 06, 2022 11:29 AM (0rQxu)

151 The universe cannot possibly survive such an ultra-dense object occupying a single point.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 06, 2022 11:27 AM (tkyK5)

They're trying to artificially produce a Piggs boson.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 06, 2022 11:29 AM (6FeV1)

152 You can be a pretty confident supporter of mass population reduction when you are confident you will not be part of the population reduced.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 06, 2022 11:29 AM (t3/qz)

153 And most organic farmers aren't using manures. They are using green manures (cover crops that are tilled in) or bio-char. Powers knows as much about organic farming as she does about traditional farming.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at May 06, 2022 11:29 AM (5HBd1)

154 I used to guide the head of the California Organic Wine Growers Association.

He told me, in no uncertain terms, that Organic Wines are a complete myth.

Apparently, Californias Laws created an entire industry for nighttime spraying.

Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 11:29 AM (xktJs)

155 136 Think I better try to put on weight while I can.

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at May 06, 2022 11:26 AM

Agreed!

There is an excellent object lesson in your nic ... that all Lefties are incapable of learning.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 06, 2022 11:30 AM (tkyK5)

156 128 124 Buh, Buh, But the Incas used shit to grow their potatoes...
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 06, 2022 11:25 AM (ynpvh)

========

It's not like 99% of their population were in the trade of finding food.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 06, 2022 11:26 AM (LvTSG)

And it probably produced shitty potatos.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 06, 2022 11:28 AM (ynpvh)

With corn chunks! It was a precursor to succotash.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 06, 2022 11:30 AM (4I/2K)

157 Shit From Shinola was a rap artist from the late '90s I think.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 06, 2022 11:30 AM (jYQlA)

158 They will employ soft power, finance, to fix this and win wars, cuz this is all they know. Lets just start hanging these fools now.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 06, 2022 11:30 AM (0chEi)

159 Powers just keeps failing from one government grifter job to another.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 06, 2022 11:30 AM (t3/qz)

160 142 "This organic apple is simply bursting with flavor, nutrients, and fake virtue. But mostly fake virtue."

Posted by: Muldoon at May 06, 2022 11:26 AM (kXYt5)

And worms! Don't forget little green worms!

Posted by: Archer at May 06, 2022 11:27 AM (gmo/4)

2022: What's worse than finding a worm in your apple? Half a worm

2024: Hey, worms are protein, and I need all I can get! That's not funny!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 06, 2022 11:30 AM (ynpvh)

161 Human manure is used on ag fields, but it goes through some treatment, and what I saw was injected below ground. Here is what I found in a brief search

"Biosolids treated once are called Class B biosolids, and can be used with various restrictions, because while the pathogen levels are reduced by a single treatment, they’re not completely gone. That requires a second treatment - often using high temperatures - and turns the biosolids into Class A biosolids, which have no detectable pathogens and can be used anywhere."

Posted by: illiniwek at May 06, 2022 11:30 AM (Cus5s)

162 >>Stock up on staples.

One box lasts me about a decade.

Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 11:30 AM (xktJs)

163 Apparently, Californias Laws created an entire industry for nighttime spraying.

You don't need laws. Same thing happens naturally when you reach 29.

Posted by: Archimedes at May 06, 2022 11:30 AM (ZsR3z)

164 Back in the day, cattle ate grasses that we could not eat, converting inedible grasses into edible protein. Tell me that's not making use of resources.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 06, 2022 11:27 AM (ynpvh)
++++
Unless you're eating carnivores - which people don't do unless they absolutely need to, because they make lousy meat - all meat is plant-based. It's one of the reasons I find those "plant-based" meat substitutes so funny.

Meat is also all natural, which the "plant-based" substitutes are not.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2022 11:30 AM (DU+/6)

165 I mean, the Amish and Old Order Mennonites are going to weather this just fine. But damn few other people are going to be able to handle a serious crash.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 06, 2022 11:20 AM

I doubt they will come through OK if there are serious food shortages. People know about the Amish and others and know they don't have guns to protect their farms. Starving people will take what they have and it will be ugly.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at May 06, 2022 11:31 AM (bVYXr)

166 "Death cult" is a polite understatement. They want the whole of the Earth's population reduced to under 1 million and subject to their loving and benevolent control.

Posted by: NR Pax at May 06, 2022 11:31 AM (4olE8)

167 152 You can be a pretty confident supporter of mass population reduction when you are confident you will not be part of the population reduced.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 06, 2022 11:29 AM (t3/qz)

=========

Well, that would not be necessary Mr. President. It could easily be accomplished with a computer. And a computer could be set and programmed to accept factors from youth, health, sexual fertility, intelligence, and a cross section of necessary skills. Of course it would be absolutely vital that our top government and military men be included to foster and impart the required principles of leadership and tradition. Naturally, they would breed prodigiously, eh? There would be much time, and little to do. But ah with the proper breeding techniques and a ratio of say, ten females to each male, I would guess that they could then work their way back to the present gross national product within say, twenty years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 06, 2022 11:31 AM (LvTSG)

168 143 Stock up on staples. Also ammo to defend what you have. It's gonna get right sporty if these people get their way.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at May 06, 2022 11:27 AM (Qy7kP)

I only have a couple of stapers...not sure how useful staples are against a leftist horde.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 06, 2022 11:31 AM (ynpvh)

169 >>Human manure is used on ag fields, but it goes through some treatment, and what I saw was injected below ground. Here is what I found in a brief search

Even treated solid waste results in disease. Not a good plan.

Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 11:31 AM (xktJs)

170 Those politicians at the buffet in th art thread actually do produce something useful besides bacon, it's fertilizer. Maybe we can send them to Ceylon. No wait that's muslim. Well ok.

Posted by: Eromero at May 06, 2022 11:32 AM (gktX6)

171 120 Again, no concept of scale. Anyway I thought manure producing animals were bad for the environment.
Posted by: Javems at May 06, 2022 11:25 AM (/cvFN)

If you believe Carbon is the enemy, fertilizer that is derived from fossil fuels or minerals takes carbon that was sequestered underground and puts it back into the above ground carbon cycle. Cow poop is already part of the above ground carbon cycle, so it is neutral.

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at May 06, 2022 11:32 AM (VGRuw)

172 This Samantha "I've-Got-The" Power looks like the same kind of bint who'd be out screaming at the Supreme Court in utter cluelessness about "witch hunts."

Gimme Samantha Stephens any time.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 06, 2022 11:32 AM (txdEq)

173
"This organic apple is simply bursting with flavor, nutrients, and fake virtue. But mostly fake virtue."
Posted by: Muldoon

Shit in one hand and pile fake virtue in the other and we'll see which one fills up first.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at May 06, 2022 11:32 AM (3l5Yq)

174 >>If you believe Carbon is the enemy, fertilizer that is derived from fossil fuels or minerals takes carbon that was sequestered underground and puts it back into the above ground carbon cycle. Cow poop is already part of the above ground carbon cycle, so it is neutral.

Cows are allowed to poop.

But they are not allowed to fart.

Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 11:33 AM (xktJs)

175 162 >>Stock up on staples.

One box lasts me about a decade.

Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 11:30 AM

I put the automatic stapler attachment on my AR-15.

That ammo is CHEAP!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 06, 2022 11:33 AM (tkyK5)

176 Who knew Obama was Amish?

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 06, 2022 11:33 AM (0chEi)

177 People like Power are economically illiterate and have a messiah complex.

If farmers could use home grown fertilizer and get the yields they need, without, you know, going to the effort and expense of using an external source of fertilizer, they would.

But, of course, Samantha thinks she knows more about the economics of farming than the people actually farming.

Lysenkoism hasn't gone away; it's new and improved!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at May 06, 2022 11:33 AM (5pTK/)

178 136 Think I better try to put on weight while I can.

way ahead of you, pal

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, a well-rounded individual at May 06, 2022 11:33 AM (sGtp+)

179
I doubt they will come through OK if there are serious food shortages. People know about the Amish and others and know they don't have guns to protect their farms. Starving people will take what they have and it will be ugly.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at May 06, 2022 11:31 AM (bVYXr)

The Amish don't have guns?

Posted by: Someguy's at May 06, 2022 11:33 AM (BowJ1)

180 Great rant, Buck. And virtually nobody in America will be aware of the Sri Lankan disaster thanks to the MDM-MSM.

Out: Stagflation.
In: Starveflation.

Posted by: ShainS -- Kraken of Misinformation Online at May 06, 2022 11:33 AM (93Arc)

181 I believe we have underestimated our exposure. With all this institutionalized food production, the statists can and will starve us to maintain power.

And I believe that is what we are already seeing.

Posted by: cpurick at May 06, 2022 11:33 AM (bwWDS)

182 176 Who knew Obama was Amish?
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 06, 2022 11:33 AM (0chEi)

Ob-amish . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2022 11:34 AM (s2VJv)

183 Just keep on believing that there are mostly good people on the left, tainted by a few extremists. We can still play nice and get along. Look, if they were not nice people, would they have put windows in the gulag barracks?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 06, 2022 11:34 AM (t3/qz)

184 That ammo is CHEAP!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 06, 2022 11:33 AM (tkyK5)

Redneck Flechettes?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 06, 2022 11:34 AM (6FeV1)

185 Power is another one of those arrogant leftist twats who has always been wrong on every issue, but thinks she's a natural genius. For example, she was one of the foreign policy "experts" who came up with the ludicrous "R2P" (responsibility to protect) nonsense that was used as the justification for Obama to unilaterally decide to take out Quadaffi's government in Libya -- with no plan for what was to replace it (the genius lightworker Barky later admitted that he had never thought about what would fill the power vacuum he was creating in terrorist-strewn Libya).

Like Jaime Gorelick, Power has a long history of screwing up everything she touches. And like Gorelick, she always walks away scot-free after her debacles, leaving somebody else to clean up her mess, as she prepares to assume her next Dim-appointed position of power.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at May 06, 2022 11:34 AM (k4dH2)

186 From my observations in Iraq circa 2010, USAID is the biggest grifting/money laundering operation in the whole of the USG.

Posted by: Bert G at May 06, 2022 11:23 AM (V+xqh)

How many "NGOs" are suckin' that tit?

Posted by: BignJames at May 06, 2022 11:34 AM (AwYPR)

187 We've been using human poop on our crops for decades! Dear Leader says plants love it! Has electrolytes!

Posted by: Nork Farmers at May 06, 2022 11:34 AM (jYQlA)

188 180 Great rant, Buck. And virtually nobody in America will be aware of the Sri Lankan disaster thanks to the MDM-MSM.

Out: Stagflation.
In: Starveflation.
Posted by: ShainS -- Kraken of Misinformation Online at May 06, 2022 11:33 AM (93Arc)

The Conservative Case for the Holodomar

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2022 11:34 AM (s2VJv)

189 Human manure is used on ag fields, but it goes through some treatment, and what I saw was injected below ground. Here is what I found in a brief search

"Biosolids treated once are called Class B biosolids, and can be used with various restrictions, because while the pathogen levels are reduced by a single treatment, they’re not completely gone. That requires a second treatment - often using high temperatures - and turns the biosolids into Class A biosolids, which have no detectable pathogens and can be used anywhere."

Posted by: illiniwek at May 06, 2022 11:30 AM (Cus5s)

HOLA!

- Mexican Tomato's chocked full of E. Coli.

Posted by: Archer at May 06, 2022 11:34 AM (gmo/4)

190 179
I doubt they will come through OK if there are serious food shortages. People know about the Amish and others and know they don't have guns to protect their farms. Starving people will take what they have and it will be ugly.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at May 06, 2022 11:31 AM (bVYXr)

The Amish don't have guns?

Posted by: Someguy's at May 06, 2022 11:33 AM (BowJ1)

They certainly have pitchforks and torches

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 06, 2022 11:34 AM (ynpvh)

191 174 Cows are allowed to poop.

But they are not allowed to fart.

with the proper technology, we can turn cow poop and cow farts into fizzy cow poop. think of the possibilities!

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at May 06, 2022 11:34 AM (sGtp+)

192 Cows are allowed to poop.

But they are not allowed to fart.

------------

Ha, my wife thinks the same should apply to me.

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at May 06, 2022 11:34 AM (sX1BW)

193 The Amish don't have guns?
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The ones I've seen do have guns.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 06, 2022 11:34 AM (sWM8x)

194 What's with all this fertilizer clap trap? Just put the damn seeds in the ground and wait.

Posted by: Mikey Bloomberg at May 06, 2022 11:34 AM (KbCG3)

195 This whole discussion reminds me of the NAZI calorie regime that lead to death camps. Does anyone remember this shit?

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 06, 2022 11:35 AM (0chEi)

196 You can be a pretty confident supporter of mass population reduction when you are confident you will not be part of the population reduced.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

Same with abortion. Funny, all of it's supporters have successfully navigated the birth canal.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 06, 2022 11:35 AM (H4qIP)

197 Robert Plant and Allison Krauss - Stick With Me Baby
https://youtu.be/AeoCGZJhGZ8

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2022 11:35 AM (DU+/6)

198 184 That ammo is CHEAP!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 06, 2022 11:33 AM (tkyK5)

Redneck Flechettes?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 06, 2022 11:34 AM (6FeV1)

Wasn't that Suzanne Pleshette's real name?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2022 11:35 AM (s2VJv)

199 It seems like we have managed to put some of the dumbest and least competent people in every single position of power in our federal government.

Super.

Posted by: JackStraw Now with Ultra MAGA at May 06, 2022 11:35 AM (ZLI7S)

200 When the Neteork goes down, we will all have to go organic in a big way.

Cue Cornetto wrapper flying by.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 06, 2022 11:35 AM (qLd+Q)

201 150 >>> Oblig.:
https://tinyurl.com/Jenny-Agutter-Soaked
Posted by: Sharkman at May 06, 2022 11:21 AM (8gxrg)

"You will live the rest of your life in a bleak hostile world with few ways to defend yourself. Mutants will attack you at every turn, dangerous technologies threaten your life, and the few meager supplies you manage to scavage from the wasteland you'll have to share with your barely clothed companion Jenny Agutter. There will ..." Wh wh wait ... What was that last part again?
Posted by: banana Dream

I'd like to substitute "TZ: Two" era Elizabeth Montgomery. She can be barely clothed, I'm ok with that.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at May 06, 2022 11:35 AM (ifUkZ)

202 199 It seems like we have managed to put some of the dumbest and least competent people in every single position of power in our federal government.

Super.
Posted by: JackStraw Now with Ultra MAGA at May 06, 2022 11:35 AM (ZLI7S)

========

Incorrect.

I am not in charge of anything.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 06, 2022 11:35 AM (LvTSG)

203 Farmers already use manure and compost. This creepy beeotch is dumb.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 06, 2022 11:35 AM (Y5qcH)

204 196 You can be a pretty confident supporter of mass population reduction when you are confident you will not be part of the population reduced.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

Same with abortion. Funny, all of it's supporters have successfully navigated the birth canal.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 06, 2022 11:35 AM (H4qIP)

Dunno about that. I think some came out the back hole.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 06, 2022 11:36 AM (ynpvh)

205 195 This whole discussion reminds me of the NAZI calorie regime that lead to death camps. Does anyone remember this shit?
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 06, 2022 11:35 AM (0chEi)

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But it will be different this time!

Posted by: 496 at May 06, 2022 11:36 AM (VJsqe)

206 he genius lightworker Barky later admitted that he had never thought about what would fill the power vacuum he was creating in terrorist-strewn Libya

So...you're saying leftists take a dump without a plan?

Posted by: The Russians at May 06, 2022 11:36 AM (ZsR3z)

207 Creepy coincidence that in Mad Max the villain was Immortan Joe ?

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at May 06, 2022 11:36 AM (27hQX)

208 165 Amish do hunt, and hunt with guns. Used to run into some around Middlefield OH. They being pacifists, I don't know their feeling on self defense.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 06, 2022 11:36 AM (lz5hY)

209 Fun thought experiment: Have Power and Mike Bloomberg tend a Leftist "Victory Garden". Hillarity would ensue...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 06, 2022 11:36 AM (PiwSw)

210 The Amish don't have guns?
---
The ones I've seen do have guns.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis

Better only be rock locks and percussion caps.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 06, 2022 11:36 AM (H4qIP)

211 >>Farmers already use manure and compost.

Every thrid one owns a shit spreader. But, they don't load it with Human Feces.

Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 11:36 AM (xktJs)

212 I showed them white folks how to plant corn using their own poop.
Posted by: Squanto at May 06, 2022

***
That was your first mistake!

Posted by: Indians in 2022 at May 06, 2022 11:36 AM (txdEq)

213 This busty redhead in a tight, plunging dress thinks that becoming like Sri Lanka is not a good outcome for the United States:
https://is.gd/vjz3dM

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2022 11:36 AM (DU+/6)

214 Posted by: Someguy's at May 06, 2022 11:33 AM (BowJ1)

I think they actually do-many of them. They are pacifists but they have guns to protect their property or to kill coyotes and foxes taking their livestock.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 06, 2022 11:37 AM (fF2aM)

215 Same with abortion. Funny, all of it's supporters have successfully navigated the birth canal.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 06, 2022 11:35 AM (H4qIP)

Dunno about that. I think some came out the back hole.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 06, 2022 11:36 AM (ynpvh)

That's how liberals are born.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at May 06, 2022 11:37 AM (II3Gr)

216 205 195 This whole discussion reminds me of the NAZI calorie regime that lead to death camps. Does anyone remember this shit?
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 06, 2022 11:35 AM (0chEi)

-----
But it will be different this time!

Posted by: 496 at May 06, 2022 11:36 AM (VJsqe)

Oh no, another burned souffle...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 06, 2022 11:37 AM (ynpvh)

217 Buck, this was very good. I don't always agree with you on economic matters but this one was spot on.

Posted by: Earl Schlobodowicz at May 06, 2022 11:37 AM (P7Iz+)

218
I am starting to think there is a plot to starve people, either for power's sake or as a way of getting to that '500 million world population' goal
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 06, 2022 11:07 AM (XvPQV)

Historically, famine and mass starvation has been the most effective, most efficient method of carrying out a genocide. It's also the most deniable.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 06, 2022 11:37 AM (n+4am)

219 Gimme Samantha Stephens any time.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 06, 2022 11:32 AM (txdEq)

And what about me? Did millions of young men not jerk it to these luscious jugs?

Posted by: Samantha Fox with her tits in your face at May 06, 2022 11:37 AM (h26q+)

220 Samantha Powers does have that vegan-look of ill-health.

She even looks like she's getting male pattern baldness. That part is definitely creeping up an alleyway of rapidly thinning hair.

Bald, sallow, and bony is no way to go through life, girl.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 06, 2022 11:37 AM (5NkmN)

221 My wife got a call from Krogers once a while back, "hey you know that bag of mixed frozen berries you bought a while back? Well don't eat it because we fortified it with generous amounts of hepatitis for you". So my wife sends me a text and asks and I say, "oh you mean the bag I was making protein smoothies with for the past freakin week?"

So I had to go and get a cocktail of hepatitis shots over a nine-month period, like if you were going to go on an extended pleasure cruise through Haiti or something, (YOLO!). It all came from people poop getting into the fields somehow.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 06, 2022 11:37 AM (0rQxu)

222 197 Robert Plant and Allison Krauss - Stick With Me Baby
https://youtu.be/AeoCGZJhGZ8
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2022 11:35 AM (DU+/6)

About four years ago, I saw Robert Plant get on an almost empty downtown 6 train and then take a seat a few feet away from me.

Can't believe I resisted all temptation to go over to him but he saw me notice him, gave a bit of a smile and then got off at Union Square.

Shocking how he was shambling like an old man, mostly because I realized that he was. Still, a nice moment shared between me, an idol and no one else.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2022 11:37 AM (s2VJv)

223 But, of course, Samantha thinks she knows more about the economics of farming than the people actually farming.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at May 06, 2022 11:33 AM

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Posted by: Mike Bloomberg at May 06, 2022 11:37 AM (a3Q+t)

224 Gonna go to church this Sunday.

Am also going to keep a crowbar in the car if things get sporty and I have to go Chapelle on some motherfucker.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 06, 2022 11:37 AM (qLd+Q)

225 I think there are some cow thermodynamics at play here. A cow can't generate more nutrients than the nutrients it takes in. In other words, you can't use cow poop to fertilize the plants used to grow cow food, then use that cow poop to grow more food. It is like a perpetual motion machine. The system needs an injection of outside nutrients to make it keep running.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 06, 2022 11:38 AM (t3/qz)

226 152 You can be a pretty confident supporter of mass population reduction when you are confident you will not be part of the population reduced.
_____________

There is no amount of other peoples' lives that Sammy Power is not willing to sacrifice for the greater good!

That's how selfless she is!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at May 06, 2022 11:38 AM (k4dH2)

227 Same with abortion. Funny, all of it's supporters have successfully navigated the birth canal.

Gotta keep them lesser races in check.

Posted by: Margret Sanger at May 06, 2022 11:38 AM (ifUkZ)

228 This busty redhead in a tight, plunging dress thinks that becoming like Sri Lanka is not a good outcome for the United States:
https://is.gd/vjz3dM

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2022 11:36 AM (DU+/6)

She's gonna catch a terrible chest cold dressed like that.

Posted by: Archer at May 06, 2022 11:38 AM (gmo/4)

229 213 This busty redhead in a tight, plunging dress thinks that becoming like Sri Lanka is not a good outcome for the United States:
https://is.gd/vjz3dM

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2022 11:36 AM (DU+/6)

That fabric's givin' all she's got, Capt'n!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 06, 2022 11:38 AM (ynpvh)

230 184 That ammo is CHEAP!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 06, 2022 11:33 AM (tkyK5)

Redneck Flechettes?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at May 06, 2022 11:34 AM

I only have the single-shot flechette attachment.

Put me down for 3 when you perfect the staple/flechette round for M40 grenades.

They would probably be an excellent choice to disperse a violent crowd, in front of SC Justice's house for instance.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 06, 2022 11:38 AM (tkyK5)

231 Wasn't that Suzanne Pleshette's real name?
----------------
Plush Pussy.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 06, 2022 11:38 AM (0chEi)

232 I think they actually do-many of them. They are pacifists but they have guns to protect their property or to kill coyotes and foxes taking their livestock.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 06, 2022 11:37 AM (fF2aM)
++++
I do wonder how long pacifism holds up if they get invaded and their way of life is threatened with extinction at the hands of the government. Existential threats tend to overpower a commitment to pacifism, even if it means risking going to hell as a result.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2022 11:38 AM (DU+/6)

233 So I had to go and get a cocktail of hepatitis shots over a nine-month period, like if you were going to go on an extended pleasure cruise through Haiti or something, (YOLO!). It all came from people poop getting into the fields somehow.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 06, 2022 11:37 AM (0rQxu)
---------------

Migrant workers are known to take a squat where they're working.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at May 06, 2022 11:38 AM (5pTK/)

234 This busty redhead in a tight, plunging dress thinks that becoming like Sri Lanka is not a good outcome for the United States:
https://is.gd/vjz3dM
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2022 11:36 AM (DU+/6)

Suddenly, the word succor pops into my consciousness.

Posted by: Count de Monet at May 06, 2022 11:38 AM (4I/2K)

235 That debacle is a reminder of just how quickly we can revert to mankind’s natural state.

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I'm reminded of something I learned when working once in a software technical support capacity: it can take months, years, and sometimes decades to gain a new customer -- and mere seconds to lose one.

Same with the Marxist Nihilists: it can take years, decades, centuries, and sometimes even millennia to create & build something glorious -- but The Left can destroy it in the blink of an eye.

Posted by: ShainS -- Kraken of Misinformation Online at May 06, 2022 11:39 AM (93Arc)

236 >>About four years ago, I saw Robert Plant get on an almost empty downtown 6 train and then take a seat a few feet away from me.

He walked into a Barber/Stylist where I was getting my haircut in Mt Kisco NY back in the early 90s.

He was super affable and fun to chat with.

Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 11:39 AM (xktJs)

237 Before his brain finally explodes Senile Joe could be responsible for more deaths than Stalin and Mao combined.
And he will never lose that rictus grin of his.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at May 06, 2022 11:39 AM (eGTCV)

238 This busty redhead in a tight, plunging dress thinks that becoming like Sri Lanka is not a good outcome for the United States:
https://is.gd/vjz3dM
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2022

***
When I was in 9th grade, I knew a girl who was, uh, constructed just like that and with ginger hair too. She was a neighbor to my best friend, and was our age . . . so she looked like that at 14 or 15. Imagine her at 18-22.

Posted by: Indians in 2022 at May 06, 2022 11:39 AM (txdEq)

239 Shocking how he was shambling like an old man, mostly because I realized that he was. Still, a nice moment shared between me, an idol and no one else.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2022 11:37 AM (s2VJv)
++++
Nice. I am actually not a huge Plant fan, but his collaborations with Alison Krauss are very good. They mesh really nicely.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2022 11:39 AM (DU+/6)

240 Well, in fairness, fake virtue is a lot easier to achieve than real virtue.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, If Not Now, When? at May 06, 2022 11:39 AM (FVME7)

241 Is anybody talking about baby Formula shortage??

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 06, 2022 11:39 AM (prk/M)

242 >>This busty redhead in a tight, plunging dress thinks that becoming like Sri Lanka is not a good outcome for the United States:
https://is.gd/vjz3dM

You can't stop her nipples. In fact, you can't even hope to contain them.

Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 11:40 AM (xktJs)

243
The system needs an injection of outside nutrients to make it keep running.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

That's where breeders of horse-man babies step in to play their vital role in The Circle (Jerk) of Life!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at May 06, 2022 11:40 AM (3l5Yq)

244 228 She's gonna catch a terrible chest cold dressed like that.

Posted by: Archer at May 06, 2022 11:38 AM (gmo/4)

"Mr. Osato believes in a healthy chest."

- - Miss Brandt, busty redhead SPECTRE dame

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2022 11:40 AM (s2VJv)

245 225 I think there are some cow thermodynamics at play here. A cow can't generate more nutrients than the nutrients it takes in. In other words, you can't use cow poop to fertilize the plants used to grow cow food, then use that cow poop to grow more food. It is like a perpetual motion machine. The system needs an injection of outside nutrients to make it keep running.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 06, 2022 11:38 AM (t3/qz)

Leftist: just connect the cow to wind and solar power.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at May 06, 2022 11:40 AM (ynpvh)

246 I am not in charge of anything.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 06, 2022 11:35 AM (LvTSG)

Welcome to my world.

Posted by: Mitt Romney at May 06, 2022 11:40 AM (h26q+)

247 At least our food processing facilities are safe and sound!

Posted by: 496 at May 06, 2022 11:40 AM (VJsqe)

248 239 Shocking how he was shambling like an old man, mostly because I realized that he was. Still, a nice moment shared between me, an idol and no one else.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2022 11:37 AM (s2VJv)
++++
Nice. I am actually not a huge Plant fan, but his collaborations with Alison Krauss are very good. They mesh really nicely.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2022 11:39 AM (DU+/6)

Led Zeppelin diehard fan 4-evah!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2022 11:41 AM (s2VJv)

249 Is anybody talking about baby Formula shortage??
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 06, 2022 11:39 AM (prk/M)
++++
Yes. The local newscast here has run a couple of stories on the problem and where there are local NGOs who are laying in supplies as able to distribute them out if you can't find it anywhere.

It's a bad problem.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2022 11:41 AM (DU+/6)

250 Samantha went to Yale. And Harvard. Those farmers, if they even got out of high school went to some kind of farmer community college. Ew. Of course she knows better.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 06, 2022 11:41 AM (t3/qz)

251 And this entire totalitarian, science-free prosperity and freedom destroying religion has no real opposition except inertia - which has averted collapse so far.

But the steady attrition, the continuously rising tax on freedom and prosperity, the endless attempts to add restrictions and control behavior, and the associated olympian-scale theft and grift roll on. It varies in severity from place to place, but it drags down and enslaves everyone in some way.

And there is no opposition. The greatest scandal in scientific history, per Dyson (referring to just the game-ender, the big one, "climate" nonsense), and all of western society is just succumbing to it, slowly.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 06, 2022 11:41 AM (OTzUX)

252 232 Levi Yoder and Mrs. Yoder hear intruders. The intruders mean to do them harm. Levi breaks out the trusty Model 12 Winchester and drops them. There is a meeting, the elders go into deliberation and say OK, Levi. Case closed.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 06, 2022 11:41 AM (lz5hY)

253 So...you're saying leftists take a dump without a plan?
_____________

I'm saying Barky Obama is a SCOAMF and a dumb-ass, much like his acolyte Sammy Power.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at May 06, 2022 11:41 AM (k4dH2)

254 Samantha went to Yale. And Harvard. Those farmers, if they even got out of high school went to some kind of farmer community college. Ew. Of course she knows better.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 06, 2022 11:41 AM (t3/qz)
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And all those major ag schools - including the Ivy League Cornell University - are all pointless, too. Just a bunch of lazy bums sitting on their duffs. Farming is super easy. They just lack ambition and want fake credentials.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2022 11:42 AM (DU+/6)

255 241 Is anybody talking about baby Formula shortage??

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 06, 2022 11:39 AM

Idiot Donks: "See, there is another problem we could solve by subsidizing abortion up until the moment of crowning!"

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 06, 2022 11:42 AM (tkyK5)

256
This is a good starting point for a thread: Would you and your family be able to survive even ONE month?
No water
No power
No food in stores
No fuel available
Would you have at least a camp stove, chlorine, some place to get water or have some on hand? A way to cook outside via wood or charcoal? A way to flush toilets? A way to heat water to at least take a 'bird bath'?

There are probably a lot more questions of this type. It would be interesting what we would come up with.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 06, 2022 11:42 AM (dQvv7)

257 Food riots are a thing in third world countries. The difference being, third world country populations tend not to be armed with the latest and greatest in civilian weapons technology.

Samantha obviously thinks food riots cannot happen here.

Samantha and her ilk don't just inhabit a different reality, they inhabit a different reality on a different planet.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at May 06, 2022 11:42 AM (5pTK/)

258 Couldn't we just add Fetanayl to Coke and kill those evil carbon units by telling them its for world peace?

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 06, 2022 11:42 AM (0chEi)

259 >>Nice. I am actually not a huge Plant fan, but his collaborations with Alison Krauss are very good. They mesh really nicely.

Checkout his Cover of Little Hands by Skip Spence. Pre-Krauss collab and brilliant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15Ng7GxKBuY

Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 11:42 AM (xktJs)

260 No, there's no mention in the media about the baby formula shortage. The preppers on You Tube talk about it a lot though.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at May 06, 2022 11:42 AM (5HBd1)

261 I once thought Robert Plant was shooting pool at Florabama. It wasn't Robert Plant, but it was Earl Bud Lee, guy who wrote a bunch of famous country songs. That was a weird night, I woke up buried in the sand.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 06, 2022 11:42 AM (Y5qcH)

262 I believe that one should get past a person's looks when appraising others. I also believe that it's human nature to make judgement by what the see/perceive in the first five seconds of encounter.

All these people look like freaks.
It's their uniform.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 06, 2022 11:43 AM (xcd1u)

263 And most organic farmers aren't using manures. They are using green manures (cover crops that are tilled in) or bio-char. Powers knows as much about organic farming as she does about traditional farming.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at May 06, 2022 11:29 AM (5HBd1)

Bio-char: we set fire to the stubble, after the crop is harvested, un-sequestering all the carbon that was sequestered in the stems and leaves. But it's carbon-neutral!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 06, 2022 11:43 AM (2MxtK)

264 I am not in charge of anything.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 06, 2022 11:35 AM (LvTSG)

Welcome to my world.
Posted by: Mitt Romney at May 06, 2022 11:40 AM (h26q+)
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TJM gets my vote way ahead of you. Heck, so does garrett.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at May 06, 2022 11:44 AM (5pTK/)

265 Look!

Buck really did put a monkey up today. Awesome!

Good job Buck. Keep up these horrifying minkeys.

Posted by: Justin Castreau at May 06, 2022 11:44 AM (ZW1rs)

266 Organic farming has killed more people than Fukashima.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 06, 2022 11:44 AM (Y5qcH)

267 Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six was uncomfortably close to the mark, when you look at what's going on around us these days.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at May 06, 2022 11:44 AM (ZSK0i)

268 >>> Shocking how he was shambling like an old man, mostly because I realized that he was. Still, a nice moment shared between me, an idol and no one else.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2022 11:37 AM (s2VJv)
++++
Nice. I am actually not a huge Plant fan, but his collaborations with Alison Krauss are very good. They mesh really nicely.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2022 11:39 AM (DU+/6)

Led Zeppelin diehard fan 4-evah!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 06, 2022 11:41 AM (s2VJv)

Plant is doing a lot of bluegrass now. My daughter was even listening to it. I'm more of a Ramble On guy. That song is my #1 rock song.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 06, 2022 11:44 AM (0rQxu)

269 Honestly, the way to fix this is simply cut the electric power to Manhattan and San Fran/Silicon Valley and wait a couple of days. Soft Power doesn't fix things - it pays others to fix things. Maybe the others need to take a break and kick back for a couple of weeks.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 06, 2022 11:44 AM (0chEi)

270
Is anybody talking about baby Formula shortage

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Yeah. It's a pain. For months now.

Posted by: It's All Transitory! at May 06, 2022 11:44 AM (rzne3)

271 260 No, there's no mention in the media about the baby formula shortage. The preppers on You Tube talk about it a lot though.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at May 06, 2022 11:42 AM

Wow, I never even thought about the preppers.

Serious question, how long could a human survive on baby formula?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at May 06, 2022 11:45 AM (tkyK5)

272 >>Heck, so does garrett.

I'd be a Sexcellent King.

Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 11:45 AM (xktJs)

273 >>That was a weird night, I woke up buried in the sand.

Man, if I had a dollar for every time that happened to me.....

Posted by: JackStraw Now with Ultra MAGA at May 06, 2022 11:45 AM (ZLI7S)

274 "And like Gorelick, she always walks away scot-free after her debacles, leaving somebody else to clean up her mess, as she prepares to assume her next Dim-appointed position of power."

and if she is like Gorelick with her millions made from the housing loan debacle, she walks away richer after destroying others. (yet Gorelick was Jarvanka's lawyer ... weird)

Posted by: illiniwek at May 06, 2022 11:46 AM (Cus5s)

275 There's something psychotic about the Biden administration.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at May 06, 2022 11:46 AM (eGTCV)

276

Now I'm a farmer
And I'm digging, digging, digging, digging, digging

https://youtu.be/maT0wn6dQd0

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 06, 2022 11:46 AM (63Dwl)

277 Is anybody talking about baby Formula shortage??

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 06, 2022 11:39 AM (prk/M)

Try powdered milk and karo syrup. Raw milk or evaporated milk was used for years before commercial formulas.

Posted by: Archer at May 06, 2022 11:46 AM (gmo/4)

278 275 There's something psychotic about the Biden administration.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at May 06, 2022 11:46 AM (eGTCV)

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Could it be all the psychopaths?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 06, 2022 11:46 AM (LvTSG)

279 That was a weird night, I woke up buried in the sand.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 06, 2022

***
That right there sounds like the start of a country song.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 06, 2022 11:46 AM (txdEq)

280 There's something psychotic about the Biden administration.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at May 06, 2022 11:46 AM (eGTCV)
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Everything.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2022 11:47 AM (DU+/6)

281 And it probably produced shitty potatos.

**********

My dad grew up on a farm and after retiring from the military he settled on an apple orchard. The only time I ever heard him use a swear word was once curing harvest when he brushed a glob of bird poop off an apple and muttered, "Stinkin' birds crap on the fruit and make it taste like shit!"

Posted by: Muldoon at May 06, 2022 11:47 AM (kXYt5)

282 >>TJM gets my vote way ahead of you. Heck, so does garrett.

I see we're just talking crazy shit today.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2022 11:47 AM (ZLI7S)

283 Actually the work I've read about in biochar is burning brush. Sometimes they combine fungus, like those found in mushrooms.

Hands up from folks that have actually worked in agriculture. I was working in an apple orchard when the Alar scare came out. Pickers there were more worried by the chemicals used on citrus that cause skin rashes.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at May 06, 2022 11:47 AM (5HBd1)

284 256
This is a good starting point for a thread: Would you and your family be able to survive even ONE month?
No water
No power
No food in stores
No fuel available
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 06, 2022 11:42 AM (dQvv7)

Just make everything out of coconuts. Duh!

Posted by: Bacon Jeff at May 06, 2022 11:47 AM (VGRuw)

285 Could it be all the psychopaths?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 06, 2022 11:46 AM (LvTSG)
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Someone should point out to The Other McCain he's been out-crazied by the current administration. Then, step back and see what happens.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at May 06, 2022 11:47 AM (5pTK/)

286 282 >>TJM gets my vote way ahead of you. Heck, so does garrett.

I see we're just talking crazy shit today.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2022 11:47 AM (ZLI7S)

=========

I don't know. I think I could have some fun as a governor of the Fed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 06, 2022 11:48 AM (LvTSG)

287 279 That was a weird night, I woke up buried in the sand.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 06, 2022

***
That right there sounds like the start of a country song.
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Need to add a saucy woman, dog or pickup truck, but, yeah.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 06, 2022 11:48 AM (0chEi)

288 There's something psychotic about the Biden administration.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at May 06, 2022 11:46 AM (eGTCV)

Demonic.

Posted by: Archer at May 06, 2022 11:48 AM (gmo/4)

289 "The good news is that the government is backing away from the fertilizer ban. The bad news is how much human suffering that policy brought on in such a short time."

Not surprising, though, with a ban on a necessary ingredient that will affect the very next growing season. Might as well have imported locusts.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 06, 2022 11:48 AM (+R5dc)

290 Funny how the terms "Florabama" and "weird night" end up in the same story.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at May 06, 2022 11:49 AM (jYQlA)

291 Some future generation will have the privilege of toppling gigantic statues of Senile Joe and Obama.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at May 06, 2022 11:49 AM (eGTCV)

292 The only time I ever heard him use a swear word was once curing harvest when he brushed a glob of bird poop off an apple and muttered, "Stinkin' birds crap on the fruit and make it taste like shit!"

Okay, okay, you take down the giant bird frappe-ers, and we'll stop crapping on your fruit. Deal?

Posted by: The Birds at May 06, 2022 11:49 AM (ZsR3z)

293 We don't have to guess if this would work. There has already been a complete experiment in Sri Lanka. The results are famine and a dead economy.

Democrats want not just us dead but all Americans dead.. even their legions of useful idiots.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 06, 2022 11:49 AM (iDcra)

294 271 I imagine it would keep you sustained for a long time, being enriched as it is. If you have baby formula, add some of those baby vitamins you dispense with an eyedropper. If you can get past the smell. Man, that stuff is so ripe I can still remember it and it's been over 29 years.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 06, 2022 11:49 AM (lz5hY)

295 Why don't we start nuetralizing carbon by killing Yellen and composting her? For the planet. Amirite?

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 06, 2022 11:49 AM (0chEi)

296 Oops that's what I get for not reading content and going straight to commenting.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 06, 2022 11:50 AM (iDcra)

297
Demonic.

Posted by: Archer at May 06, 2022 11:48 AM (gmo/4)

Well, yeah. I was trying to be moderate.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at May 06, 2022 11:50 AM (eGTCV)

298
Sammy Power looks like she stinks of old, rotten BO and patchouli.

Years ago I went to a David Lindley concert and my assigned seat was next to this middle-aged hippie chick who smelled like that. Even worse is that she'd get up and hippie-dance in front of her seat so that the air would move around and make my eyes water. Worst part is that she kept trying to get me to dance with her and got pissy when I declined.

Ruined a damned good concert.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 06, 2022 11:50 AM (n+4am)

299 At least our food processing facilities are safe and sound!
Posted by: 496
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*snort*

Posted by: SMH at this evil govt making me contemplate evil stuff at May 06, 2022 11:50 AM (i2sH5)

300 Hasn't USDA pumped out several studies that ended up showing "organic" agriculture had no appreciable benefits, in terms of either the food produced *or* the "environmental" impact? Which received zero attention, natch, as they refuted an element of the Gleichschaltung?

Posted by: rhomboid at May 06, 2022 11:50 AM (OTzUX)

301 What was the occasion for the busty redhead's dress?. Her high school prom?. Did they have a contest as to which girl could fall out of their dress fastest while bending over?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 06, 2022 11:50 AM (fF2aM)

302 Ron DeSantis has endorsed constitutional carry for Florida.

http://bitly.ws/qHXq

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at May 06, 2022 11:50 AM (sWM8x)

303 This is a good starting point for a thread: Would you and your family be able to survive even ONE month?
No water
No power
No food in stores
No fuel available
Would you have at least a camp stove, chlorine, some place to get water or have some on hand? A way to cook outside via wood or charcoal? A way to flush toilets? A way to heat water to at least take a 'bird bath'?

There are probably a lot more questions of this type. It would be interesting what we would come up with.
Posted by: Divide by Zero

Yes. On 100 acres. Wild game. Stocked ponds. 1/2 mile from the Red River.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 06, 2022 11:50 AM (H4qIP)

304 Peoples Temple is such a seventies reference I'm surprised it hasn't come up yet. Especially since Feinstein has gone full tard.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 06, 2022 11:50 AM (0chEi)

305 Patera in Appalachia's Homestead makes up "blessing boxes", which go to folks in the community that need help. So she buys baby formula for them. She has been the person that talks about the shortage the most. I think she uses evaporated milk plus something as a substitute.

Alaska Prepper is good too as is Homestead Heart.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at May 06, 2022 11:51 AM (5HBd1)

306 The Marxist-Fascist Uniparty is a religious death cult. This lunacy about feeding modern western societies using 14th century farming practices is insanity. I suspect that these crackpots have spent their entire lives living in big blue balls shithole cities and the closest they ever come to actual farms is flying at 30,000 feet from shithole to shithole. The lower yields from using cow crap for fertilizer, an ever diminishing product in their world, is made even worse by their plans to eliminate gas/diesel powered engines. Modern agriculture operates over vast spaces. The only place the technology and infrastructure to make these "green" farm vehicles work is in their damn manifestos read at their climate conferences. Updating the rural electrical system is not only technically challenging but the costs of doing so would bankrupt most farms. This would solve worrying about food production in the long term because everyone would starve to death within a couple years. So much winning.

Posted by: Lost In Space - Now fortified with Green Chilis at May 06, 2022 11:52 AM (9I3i5)

307 Excellent rant, Buck.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 06, 2022 11:52 AM (SH2Zi)

308 Democrats want not just us dead but all Americans dead.. even their legions of useful idiots.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 06, 2022 11:49 AM (iDcra)
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They worship Death. And yeah, that's the right word to use here. Look at their unholy sacrament of abortion.

They would be happy to be the last person to be extinguished from this Earth, though they will do everything in their power to *be* the last person!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 06, 2022 11:52 AM (YIVH2)

309

Pro Tip : A manual Pump Head on your Well is a great addition to the Homestead.

Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 11:52 AM (xktJs)

310 241 Is anybody talking about baby Formula shortage??

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 06, 2022 11:39 AM (prk/M)

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We're gonna need more chest-feeders ... and Pete Bootygag is on it!

Posted by: ShainS -- Kraken of Misinformation Online at May 06, 2022 11:52 AM (93Arc)

311 I think there are some cow thermodynamics at play here.

*********

Assume a spherical cow.

Posted by: Muldoon at May 06, 2022 11:53 AM (kXYt5)

312 I sort of wonder how Samantha expects to get by when the inevitable food shortages happen.

I see a lot of cities imploding when it becomes too dangerous for truckers to bring in supplies.

Does Samantha really think she's going to be unaffected? Or, is she the kind of true believer who is willing to sacrifice herself for the greater good? (seriously, this dead-eyed bint isn't very bright, and, again, just might be willing to see things through, because she believes her approach will create a better tomorrow)

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at May 06, 2022 11:53 AM (5pTK/)

313 They worship Death. And yeah, that's the right word to use here. Look at their unholy sacrament of abortion.

And their worship of the sterile LGBTQ+ cult.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at May 06, 2022 11:53 AM (eGTCV)

314 It has more to do with trusting the USDA about as much as the CDC for useful advice. You can't just heave a bunch of chemicals on the ground and expect to produce nutrient dense food. There's room for both.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at May 06, 2022 11:53 AM (5HBd1)

315 256
This is a good starting point for a thread: Would you and your family be able to survive even ONE month?
No water
No power
No food in stores
No fuel available
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 06, 2022 11:42 AM (dQvv7)
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We could but only because we do a lot of dry camping and know how to stretch things. Also we have at least a three month supply of water and food.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 06, 2022 11:53 AM (iDcra)

316 >> Is anybody talking about baby Formula

All you need is an Egg and some Sperm, really.

Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 11:53 AM (xktJs)

317 OK children, story book time. No, I'm not a tranny.
Good question Bubu.

This is the Samantha Organic Kool-Aide Tail.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 06, 2022 11:53 AM (qZ/hq)

318 For some levity:

Senator Warren's new name is "Tramples Over Shrubbery

https://is.gd/AakzNu

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 06, 2022 11:53 AM (PiwSw)

319 and if she is like Gorelick with her millions made from the housing loan debacle, she walks away richer after destroying others. (yet Gorelick was Jarvanka's lawyer ... weird)
___________

Yep, that too.

As Hillary explained decades ago (when her rather remarkable skill for lucrative cattle futures trading first came to public notice), they're geniuses selflessly serving in low-paying public sector jobs, and they deserve to be able to make some bank for all their sacrifices on your behalf, damn it you ungrateful rubes!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at May 06, 2022 11:53 AM (k4dH2)

320 316 >> Is anybody talking about baby Formula

All you need is an Egg and some Sperm, really.
Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 11:53 AM (xktJs)

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I don't get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 06, 2022 11:54 AM (LvTSG)

321 My oldest daughter took second place in the 2008 Mullet Toss across the state line at the FloraBama.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at May 06, 2022 11:54 AM (EpAq9)

322 I work in food manufacturing (at least for another week), which explains my protein meetings. There is zero chance I would allow any food grown in shit to enter the facility.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at May 06, 2022 11:54 AM (qLd+Q)

323 Not working out here

So it's Mother Gaia Religion being forced apon us

Posted by: Skip's phone at May 06, 2022 11:54 AM (2JoB8)

324 The 8 or so refineries that shut down 2020-2021 are really hurting us now. Distillate stocks are drawing down with no relief in site.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 06, 2022 11:54 AM (Y5qcH)

325 I think there are some cow thermodynamics at play here. A cow can't generate more nutrients than the nutrients it takes in. In other words, you can't use cow poop to fertilize the plants used to grow cow food, then use that cow poop to grow more food. It is like a perpetual motion machine. The system needs an injection of outside nutrients to make it keep running.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 06, 2022 11:38 AM (t3/qz)

If you have ever looked closely at a cow pasture, you would notice that the fallen cowplops sport a luxurious growth of tall green grass, which the cows won't eat. The grass between them is grazed down to nubs, but not the stuff in the plops.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 06, 2022 11:55 AM (2MxtK)

326 Honestly, we need a cook book for humans.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 06, 2022 11:55 AM (0chEi)

327 "The good news is that the government is backing away from the fertilizer ban. The bad news is how much human suffering that policy brought on in such a short time."

Not surprising, though, with a ban on a necessary ingredient that will affect the very next growing season.

Might as well have imported locusts.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer

Or democrats.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 06, 2022 11:55 AM (H4qIP)

328 The Khmer Rouge loved organic farming so much, they even planted people.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 06, 2022 11:55 AM (Kuiq9)

329 238 This busty redhead in a tight, plunging dress thinks that becoming like Sri Lanka is not a good outcome for the United States:
https://is.gd/vjz3dM
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2022

Why does it seem like the headlights aren't pointed in the right direction?

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 06, 2022 11:55 AM (+oXMi)

330 >>I don't get it.

Where X = an egg / ovum

And Y = a batch of swimmers

...

Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 11:55 AM (xktJs)

331 Years ago I went to a David Lindley concert and my assigned seat was next to this middle-aged hippie chick who smelled like that. Even worse is that she'd get up and hippie-dance in front of her seat so that the air would move around and make my eyes water. Worst part is that she kept trying to get me to dance with her and got pissy when I declined.

Ruined a damned good concert.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 06, 2022

***
A buddy of mine knows someone who swears he once slept with Janis Joplin, and that she had terrible B.O. If she'd lived, I can imagine her doing just what you describe and having just that effect.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 06, 2022 11:55 AM (txdEq)

332
As Hillary explained decades ago (when her rather remarkable skill for lucrative cattle futures trading first came to public notice), they're geniuses selflessly serving in low-paying public sector jobs, and they deserve to be able to make some bank for all their sacrifices on your behalf, damn it you ungrateful rubes!
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--FJB at May 06, 2022 11:53 AM (k4dH2)

Precisely!

Posted by: Selfless Public Servant Dan Crenshaw at May 06, 2022 11:55 AM (PiwSw)

333 TJM gets my vote way ahead of you. Heck, so does garrett.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at May 06, 2022 11:44 AM

garrett bought you off with the promise of some Crocs bling, didn't he?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 06, 2022 11:55 AM (a3Q+t)

334 The Biden Admin is like a magnet for all the crazies. In a normal and sane world these people would be institutionalized.

Posted by: Winston Smith at May 06, 2022 11:55 AM (maVx4)

335 309- I need to install one of those. I've got a creek, but the well is deep and doesn't require boiling. Not sure I'd trust the creek water.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at May 06, 2022 11:55 AM (EpAq9)

336 "A cow can't generate more nutrients than the nutrients it takes in."

idk the whole cycle, but part of the magic of grazing on grass is the solar energy captured ... that is a big part of the energy balancing equation. Also nitrogen can be fixed out of the air ... clover does that.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 06, 2022 11:56 AM (Cus5s)

337 Does Samantha really think she's going to be unaffected?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at May 06, 2022 11:53 AM (5pTK/)

I can't believe you asked that.

Posted by: BignJames at May 06, 2022 11:56 AM (AwYPR)

338 I saw the Stinky Hippy Chicks open up for Indigo Girls at the Farifield in 1986. Not a good show.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 06, 2022 11:56 AM (iDcra)

339 > Is anybody talking about baby Formula

All you need is an Egg and some Sperm, really.
Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 11:53 AM (xktJs)

I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 06, 2022 11:54 AM (LvTSG)

HE'S SAYING DON'T PULL OUT AFTER STUFFING THE ENVELOPE!

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at May 06, 2022 11:56 AM (Wvoe+)

340 >>garrett bought you off with the promise of some Crocs bling, didn't he?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 06, 2022 11:55 AM

Get me the FBI on the phone.

We gotta start an investigation into this guy.

Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 11:57 AM (xktJs)

341
Pro Tip : A manual Pump Head on your Well is a great addition to the Homestead.

Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 11:52 AM

Sounds like something I should look into. I'm 'only' 25 feet depth to water, so I think that could be achieved.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 06, 2022 11:57 AM (dQvv7)

342 Honestly, we need a cook book for humans.
Posted by: Puddin Head

101 Ways To Serve Your Fellow Man.

Cookbook or Non Profit Organization.
You decide.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 06, 2022 11:57 AM (H4qIP)

343 Pimp Head!

Posted by: Hare lip at May 06, 2022 11:57 AM (63Dwl)

344 Water literally flows out of the ground on my property. 25 acres of trees. 35 acres of tillable land.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 06, 2022 11:57 AM (t3/qz)

345 Out here, there's enough rain that it leaches nutrients from the ground. If you try to raise cows on local grass, you eventually start having problems when they calve. The locals have always brought in hay from Eastern WA.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at May 06, 2022 11:57 AM (5HBd1)

346 Most beef cattle spend a lot of time grazing before being sent to a feed lot to be fattened up.

Posted by: Javems at May 06, 2022 11:57 AM (/cvFN)

347 334 The Biden Admin is like a magnet for all the crazies. In a normal and sane world these people would be institutionalized.
Posted by: Winston Smith at May 06, 2022 11:55 AM (maVx4)

All those institutions seem to have three letter acronyms.

Posted by: Roy at May 06, 2022 11:57 AM (Ti+Tv)

348 A few years ago I was in Hong Kong and the big local news was the government of Hong Kong was going to limit the number of people coming into the territory from mainland China because they were buying up too many staples that were unavailable in China.

Chief among the complaints was baby formula and toilet paper. So we are becoming more like China everyday which is not so nice.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 06, 2022 11:57 AM (ZLI7S)

349 >> I need to install one of those. I've got a creek, but the well is deep and doesn't require boiling. Not sure I'd trust the creek water.

Never trust the Creek Water. But. You can build a gravity fed unit for cleaning that too. Real simple to do.

Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 11:58 AM (xktJs)

350 344 Water literally flows out of the ground on my property. 25 acres of trees. 35 acres of tillable land.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 06, 2022 11:57 AM (t3/qz)

=========

"We'll be there in five minutes. Lay out a place for dinner for us. We're going to be there for a while."
-The EPA

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 06, 2022 11:58 AM (LvTSG)

351 The good news is the wife saved us $2k a year by cancelling computer apps and lawn service that we don't really need. Tech Titans and Illegal Aliens hardest hit.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 06, 2022 11:58 AM (0chEi)

352 garrett bought you off with the promise of some Crocs bling, didn't he?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 06, 2022 11:55 AM (a3Q+t)
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He offered to bedazzle my murse.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at May 06, 2022 11:58 AM (5pTK/)

353 340 >>garrett bought you off with the promise of some Crocs bling, didn't he?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 06, 2022 11:55 AM

Get me the FBI on the phone.

We gotta start an investigation into this guy.
Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 11:57 AM (xktJs)

It don't mean a thing, if it ain't got that Crocs bling..
Da da da da da da da da dah da da dah

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at May 06, 2022 11:58 AM (PiwSw)

354 Yes, twas a fine rant.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 06, 2022 11:58 AM (eJn7u)

355 Is anybody talking about baby Formula

All you need is an Egg and some Sperm, really.
Posted by: garrett

I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

HE'S SAYING DON'T PULL OUT AFTER STUFFING THE ENVELOPE!
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER

LEAVE THE BABY GRAVY IN THE OVEN!

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 06, 2022 11:58 AM (H4qIP)

356
Never trust the Creek Water. But. You can build a gravity fed unit for cleaning that too. Real simple to do.
Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 11:58 AM (xktJs)

A pot still is handy, too.

Posted by: Roy at May 06, 2022 11:58 AM (Ti+Tv)

357 I read an article in the API newsletter today about 2 CA refineries that were shut down and will be converted to biodiesel and renewables.

They like to give renewable capacities in millions of gallons per year, but this is propaganda to get bigger numbers. Refinery capacity is typically in barrels/day.

I did the math and these 2 refineries will be 17,000 and 55,000 barrels/day of renewables.

They were originally 150,000+ bbl/day refineries.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 06, 2022 11:59 AM (Y5qcH)

358 And Y = a batch of swimmers

...
Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 11:55 AM (xktJs)

You called?

Posted by: Bruce Jenner, Michael Phelps and Ian Thorpe at May 06, 2022 11:59 AM (Wvoe+)

359 And there is no opposition. The greatest scandal in scientific history, per Dyson (referring to just the game-ender, the big one, "climate" nonsense), and all of western society is just succumbing to it, slowly.

Posted by: rhomboid
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I would not be so sure about no opposition. Given the control of mass media outlets, more or less people can only observe a partial picture of what is going on.

I see an elite that is concerned with issues that simply do not matter to the masses but that fiddling while the house burns regarding food shortages, vaxx side effects, collapse of institutions such as public education, etc. are setting the stage for a French or Russian style revolution, possibly even world wide.

Posted by: whig at May 06, 2022 11:59 AM (Iq9dF)

360 331 Not even middle aged. You see a lot of gals running around in tie dyed tees, gray hair down to their shoulders with pastel tints and a medicare card. Act. Your. Age.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 06, 2022 11:59 AM (lz5hY)

361 Senator Warren's new name is "Tramples Over Shrubbery

https://is.gd/AakzNu
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper

Circle the wagons!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, If Not Now, When? at May 06, 2022 11:59 AM (FVME7)

362 Hey ShainS: Is “Starveflation” your own creation? Either way I may appropriate use of it. That’s a great term.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at May 06, 2022 12:00 PM (d9Cw3)

363 359 I see an elite that is concerned with issues that simply do not matter to the masses but that fiddling while the house burns regarding food shortages, vaxx side effects, collapse of institutions such as public education, etc. are setting the stage for a French or Russian style revolution, possibly even world wide.
Posted by: whig at May 06, 2022 11:59 AM (Iq9dF)

=======

"Why aren't you people screaming about the end of abortion!"

"Because eggs are now $3 per dozen."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 06, 2022 12:00 PM (LvTSG)

364 I've got $100 that says farmers and industry moved away from "natural solutions" because of government regulations.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Billions for Ukraine's war, not a penny for peace talks at May 06, 2022 12:00 PM (opLR+)

365 A pot still is handy, too.

Posted by: Roy at May 06, 2022 11:58 AM (Ti+Tv)

chlorox

Posted by: BignJames at May 06, 2022 12:00 PM (AwYPR)

366 No, there's no mention in the media about the baby formula shortage. The preppers on You Tube talk about it a lot though.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at May 06, 2022 11:42 AM (5HBd1)

I guess Bootygag and his butt buddy bought it all up.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 06, 2022 12:00 PM (EHj7T)

367 I need to install one of those. I've got a creek, but the well is deep and doesn't require boiling. Not sure I'd trust the creek water.

Never trust the Creek Water. But. You can build a gravity fed unit for cleaning that too. Real simple to do.
Posted by: garrett

There is no surface water in CONUS that is free of giardia.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 06, 2022 12:00 PM (H4qIP)

368 I can't believe you asked that.
Posted by: BignJames at May 06, 2022 11:56 AM (AwYPR)
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I can go either way on that question.

Either she believes she'll be unaffected, and it will come as a complete surprise when she winds up dying in a street somewhere, or, she's willing to sacrifice herself. Of the two, the latter is far more dangerous.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at May 06, 2022 12:00 PM (5pTK/)

369 >>A pot still is handy, too.

Yeah, but drinking hot water sucks.

And boiling requires fuel.

Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 12:00 PM (xktJs)

370
Also we have at least a three month supply of water and food.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 06, 2022 11:53 AM

I believe you on the food, but on average my wife and I go through a gallon of drinking water a day. Do you really have 90 gallons around? I guess a swimming pool would count.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 06, 2022 12:00 PM (dQvv7)

371 And it's interesting how little attention is being paid to the food processing plants that have been taken out in the last year. A customer wanted to talk to me about it the other day. The government agencies should be doing investigations into it, just to be sure it's not sabotage. But they won't.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at May 06, 2022 12:01 PM (5HBd1)

372 A pot still is handy, too.

Posted by: Roy at May 06, 2022 11:58 AM (Ti+Tv)

chlorox
Posted by: BignJames

16 drops per gallon.
Yes, an eye dropper drop is a recognized USP measurement.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 06, 2022 12:01 PM (H4qIP)

373
"Because eggs are now $3 per dozen."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 06, 2022 12:00 PM (LvTSG)

That's a sign of increased consumer confidence.

Posted by: It's All Transitory! at May 06, 2022 12:01 PM (rzne3)

374 >>There is no surface water in CONUS that is free of giardia.

There are many Natural Springs that are fine and Giardia Free. But 2+ feet away and you are risking it.

Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 12:01 PM (xktJs)

375 Does Samantha really think she's going to be unaffected?Posted by: blake

I always find this part, who will be affected by the green apocalypse, a complete head shaker. Clearly everyone will be devastated, with the shithole Democrat run cities collapsing into a Mad Max world first. Dear Samantha and her ilk would most likely being some of the first to be BBQ.

Posted by: Lost In Space - Now fortified with Green Chilis at May 06, 2022 12:02 PM (9I3i5)

376 read an article in the API newsletter today about 2 CA refineries that were shut down and will be converted to biodiesel and renewables.

They like to give renewable capacities in millions of gallons per year, but this is propaganda to get bigger numbers. Refinery capacity is typically in barrels/day.

I did the math and these 2 refineries will be 17,000 and 55,000 barrels/day of renewables.

They were originally 150,000+ bbl/day refineries.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe
==

Environmentals pull the BBL to gallon trick with oil spills nothing like multiplying it by 42 to make it look disastrous.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 06, 2022 12:02 PM (iDcra)

377 This busty redhead in a tight, plunging dress thinks that becoming like Sri Lanka is not a good outcome for the United States:
https://is.gd/vjz3dM

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 06, 2022 11:36 AM (DU+/6)

I will warm her up.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 06, 2022 12:02 PM (SH2Zi)

378 I believe you on the food, but on average my wife and I go through a gallon of drinking water a day. Do you really have 90 gallons around? I guess a swimming pool would count.
Posted by: Divide by Zero

40 gallon hot water heater. Boom. Half of that amount right there.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 06, 2022 12:02 PM (H4qIP)

379 >>A pot still is handy, too.

Yeah, but drinking hot water sucks.

And boiling requires fuel.

Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 12:00 PM (xktJs)

I like my water neat.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 06, 2022 12:03 PM (SH2Zi)

380 It is absolutely the case that city leftards who know nothing about horticulture or farming of any kind should be in charge of agricultural policy. Right? After all, you just stick some seeds in the dirt and smoke dope until harvest. No?

Liberals would inject stupidity intravenously if they could.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 06, 2022 12:03 PM (eJn7u)

381 Demonic.

Posted by: Archer at May 06, 2022 11:48 AM (gmo/4)

Well, yeah. I was trying to be moderate.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at May 06, 2022 11:50 AM (eGTCV)

LOL Canadian nice..

Posted by: Archer at May 06, 2022 12:03 PM (gmo/4)

382 I believe you on the food, but on average my wife and I go through a gallon of drinking water a day. Do you really have 90 gallons around? I guess a swimming pool would count.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 06, 2022 12:00 PM (dQvv7)

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Some people have [insert some number > 1 here] 55-gallon drums filled with the stuff.

Posted by: ShainS -- Kraken of Misinformation Online at May 06, 2022 12:03 PM (93Arc)

383 "the fallen cowplops sport a luxurious growth of tall green grass, which the cows won't eat."

guy that had cows here years ago used a harrow to breaking up the cow pies, spread them around the pasture a little

Posted by: illiniwek at May 06, 2022 12:03 PM (Cus5s)

384 40 gallon hot water heater. Boom. Half of that amount right there.
Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 06, 2022 12:02 PM (H4qIP)
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toilet tanks and, yer gonna be using a trench to relieve yourself.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at May 06, 2022 12:04 PM (5pTK/)

385 Latest by Patera talked about how much it costs her to produce eggs. She sold 22 dozen recently. She hasn't raised her prices, but figuring out the cost of feed and such, it costs her about $9 a dozen to produce them.

Pretty much every prepper out there is stocking up big time now. I know that doom and gloom gets clicks but there are people really worried about how bad things may be next year.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at May 06, 2022 12:04 PM (5HBd1)

386 Actually the work I've read about in biochar is burning brush. Sometimes they combine fungus, like those found in mushrooms.

Hands up from folks that have actually worked in agriculture. I was working in an apple orchard when the Alar scare came out. Pickers there were more worried by the chemicals used on citrus that cause skin rashes.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at May 06, 2022 11:47 AM (5HBd1)

Well, you really only get to do that once, when you are breaking new land. Sugar cane growers burn their fields.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 06, 2022 12:04 PM (EHj7T)

387 > I guess a swimming pool would count.
_____________

Bingo. And the bonus is that it's typically pretty clean year round. Yes, chemicals are in it. But seriously if I have to resort to drinking pool water to survive the burning times who gives a fuck.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at May 06, 2022 12:04 PM (BFigT)

388 And there is no opposition. The greatest scandal in scientific history, per Dyson (referring to just the game-ender, the big one, "climate" nonsense), and all of western society is just succumbing to it, slowly.

Covering up the University of East Anglia leaks where the climate scientologists admitted they were making shit up because politicians sent them money was a big deal, as the current resident of the Oval Office would say.

Posted by: Ian S. at May 06, 2022 12:04 PM (ZGrMX)

389 Liberals would inject stupidity intravenously if they could.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 06, 2022 12:03 PM (eJn7u)
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I'm not entirely convinced they don't.

Ignorance is bliss, after all...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at May 06, 2022 12:05 PM (YIVH2)

390 It is absolutely the case that city leftards who know nothing about horticulture or farming of any kind should be in charge of agricultural policy. Right? After all, you just stick some seeds in the dirt and smoke dope until harvest. No?

Liberals would inject stupidity intravenously if they could.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 06, 2022 12:03 PM (eJn7u)

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Gad, remember that silly picture of the "sustainable gardening" in CHAZ with the cardboard, some soil and a lone potted plant?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at May 06, 2022 12:05 PM (5pTK/)

391 Didn't she Kill some Kid during a visit to Africa,

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 06, 2022 12:05 PM (prk/M)

392 Always best for farmers to make their planting and fertilizing decisions based on the preferences of clapped out poli sci majors.

Posted by: Farmers' Almanac at May 06, 2022 12:05 PM (dYe5S)

393 >>Gad, remember that silly picture of the "sustainable gardening" in CHAZ with the cardboard, some soil and a lone potted plant?

Beat me to that...Pure Comedy.

Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 12:05 PM (xktJs)

394 Pretty much every prepper out there is stocking up big time now. I know that doom and gloom gets clicks but there are people really worried about how bad things may be next year.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward
===

Even with Biden at the head of our country? Say it ain't so.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 06, 2022 12:05 PM (iDcra)

395 324 The 8 or so refineries that shut down 2020-2021 are really hurting us now. Distillate stocks are drawing down with no relief in site.

no problem. the strategic petroleum reserve has your back.

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at May 06, 2022 12:06 PM (Nv3bW)

396
One 'must have' that I always keep on hand is the one pound packages of swimming pool 'burn out' chlorine. You could chlorinate maybe 20 thousand gallons of water to 8 ppm from one package.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 06, 2022 12:06 PM (dQvv7)

397 Well, you really only get to do that once, when you are breaking new land. Sugar cane growers burn their fields.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 06, 2022 12:04 PM (EHj7T)

I remember that as a kid in Hawaii, little flakes of black ash would come down on my school if the wind was right. It was our version of snow.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 06, 2022 12:06 PM (Y5qcH)

398 .” This ghoul is willing to starve the world in her pursuit of organic religious obedience.
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Flip those. She is willing to have organic religious obedience to starve the world.

Posted by: ... at May 06, 2022 12:06 PM (QLgXI)

399 A pot still is handy, too.

Yeah, but drinking hot water sucks.

And boiling requires fuel.

Posted by: garrett

There will be a lot of empty buildings to find fuel in.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 06, 2022 12:06 PM (H4qIP)

400 Bingo. And the bonus is that it's typically pretty clean year round. Yes, chemicals are in it. But seriously if I have to resort to drinking pool water to survive the burning times who gives a fuck.

Posted by: Martini Farmer
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Swimming pools are just big water tanks and like other external water, best to simply use filtration to remove the bad stuff for drinking. Water storage barrels connected to gutters on a house that store rainwater are another source in many areas for water. Monsoonal areas do better with central cisterns.

Posted by: whig at May 06, 2022 12:07 PM (Iq9dF)

401 Yep 4 drops of Clorox per quart of water or 16 drops per gallon.

Posted by: Archer at May 06, 2022 12:07 PM (gmo/4)

402 We could burn brush out here all the live long day. Just depends on what sort of environment you live in. The plains are a lot different than the forested areas we have.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at May 06, 2022 12:07 PM (5HBd1)

403 This remind me of my time in Peace Corps where suburban kids, mostly right out of college (I was an exception) with no experience or relevant training went off to third world countries to help them with their many problems that they new nothing about with stupid, sustainable solutions. It was laughable and tragic watching them try and teach the locals about composting latrines or digging a well by hand with solar pumps to get the water out.

I'm going to guess Samantha Powers was in Peace Corp. She fits the profile of the typical volunteer perfectly.

Posted by: Ripley at May 06, 2022 12:07 PM (MxEKc)

404 One 'must have' that I always keep on hand is the one pound packages of swimming pool 'burn out' chlorine. You could chlorinate maybe 20 thousand gallons of water to 8 ppm from one package.
Posted by: Divide by Zero

Best stored in a glass jar with a plastic lid.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 06, 2022 12:08 PM (H4qIP)

405 Dumbasses.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at May 06, 2022 12:08 PM (NBeSQ)

406 They do make bathtub size water bags, you place the bag in the bath tub fill it and you can close it, comes with a siphon as well.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at May 06, 2022 12:08 PM (prk/M)

407 This is a good starting point for a thread: Would you and your family be able to survive even ONE month?
No water
No power
No food in stores
No fuel available
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 06, 2022 11:42 AM (dQvv7)

The supply of free-range hobos is pretty thin in this area, but-

I do have several virtue-signaling neighbors who look-like they'd be pretty tasty after a week or two of dry-aging. They'd do in a pinch.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 06, 2022 12:08 PM (5NkmN)

408 Pro Tip : A manual Pump Head on your Well is a great addition to the Homestead.
Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 11:52 AM (xktJs)

The water in my well is 200 feet down. I will stick with having a generator to run the 240 volt deep-well submersible pump.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 06, 2022 12:09 PM (EHj7T)

409 They put in a 55 gallon water barrel here, connected to a front gutter. Already had to dump it out once. I suspect I will put in a water barrel or two, wherever I wind up.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at May 06, 2022 12:09 PM (5HBd1)

410 I wonder if there has been a study done to see how well human bodies work as fertilizer.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at May 06, 2022 12:09 PM (5kI0z)

411 Yep 4 drops of Clorox per quart of water or 16 drops per gallon.
Posted by: Archer

And that is plain Clorox. Not scented. Not splashless gel.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 06, 2022 12:09 PM (H4qIP)

412 I do have several virtue-signaling neighbors who look-like they'd be pretty tasty after a week or two of dry-aging. They'd do in a pinch.

Posted by: naturalfake
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Make sure that you avoid brains, especially leftist, when consuming long pig. Don't want to get kuru.

Posted by: whig at May 06, 2022 12:09 PM (Iq9dF)

413 I'm going to guess Samantha Powers was in Peace Corp. She fits the profile of the typical volunteer perfectly.

Posted by: Ripley at May 06, 2022 12:07 PM (MxEKc)

Definition of a volunteer? Not capable to be gainfully employed.

Posted by: Archer at May 06, 2022 12:09 PM (gmo/4)

414 Welcome to America!
Where money doesn't matter and famines are intentional.

(Guess the commies won the Cold War)

Posted by: People's Hippo Voice at May 06, 2022 12:09 PM (+ozEO)

415 >>The water in my well is 200 feet down.

Yeah...you are gonna look like Popeye in no time.

Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 12:10 PM (xktJs)

416 415 >>The water in my well is 200 feet down.

Yeah...you are gonna look like Popeye in no time.
Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 12:10 PM (xktJs)

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This is why God created the pulley system.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, believes a man can fly with Superman at May 06, 2022 12:10 PM (LvTSG)

417 There will be a lot of empty buildings to find fuel in.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 06, 2022 12:06 PM (H4qIP)

Yep. And I suspect the U.S. food requirements would drop dramatically, too.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 06, 2022 12:10 PM (SH2Zi)

418
Does Samantha really think she's going to be unaffected? Or, is she the kind of true believer who is willing to sacrifice herself for the greater good? (seriously, this dead-eyed bint isn't very bright, and, again, just might be willing to see things through, because she believes her approach will create a better tomorrow)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/) at May 06, 2022 11:53 AM (5pTK/)

She simply isn't thinking about that. Like all commie cocksuckers, she just wants to destroy Western Civilization. She doesn't care what happens afterwards, nor does she care what happens to her and her family during the process.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 06, 2022 12:10 PM (n+4am)

419 401 Yep 4 drops of Clorox per quart of water or 16 drops per gallon.
Posted by: Archer at May 06, 2022 12:07 PM (gmo/4)

I thought it was a capfull per gallon?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 06, 2022 12:10 PM (V6f9+)

420 Clorox decomposes into water. It doesn't take too long either.

Posted by: torabora at May 06, 2022 12:11 PM (Y274z)

421 410 I wonder if there has been a study done to see how well human bodies work as fertilizer. Posted by: Thomas Paine

Not exactly a study but this is a start to answering your question.

https://tinyurl.com/89ahh5nr

Posted by: Lost In Space - Now fortified with Green Chilis at May 06, 2022 12:12 PM (9I3i5)

422 Hands up from folks that have actually worked in agriculture. I was working in an apple orchard when the Alar scare came out. Pickers there were more worried by the chemicals used on citrus that cause skin rashes.
Posted by: Notsothoreau
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NST, I grew up with it. Can do it. It is very hard work coupled with rolling the dice with mother nature.

By the sweat of your brow... indeed.

Posted by: whig at May 06, 2022 12:12 PM (Iq9dF)

423 People
People who have Temples
Are the craziest people in the world

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, If Not Now, When? at May 06, 2022 12:13 PM (FVME7)

424 Yep 4 drops of Clorox per quart of water or 16 drops per gallon.
Posted by: Archer at May 06, 2022 12:07 PM (gmo/4)

I thought it was a capfull per gallon?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

Back around Y2k and for about ten years after, Clorox had a page on their corporate website on how to disinfect water with their product.
16 drops 💦 per gallon. Can be more. Never less.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 06, 2022 12:13 PM (H4qIP)

425 People's Pundit is Live.

Posted by: garrett at May 06, 2022 12:13 PM (xktJs)

426 Clorox decomposes into water. It doesn't take too long either.

Posted by: torabora at May 06, 2022 12:11 PM (Y274z)

I think you can use iodine as well...but it's not as tasty as chlorine.

Posted by: BignJames at May 06, 2022 12:13 PM (AwYPR)

427 Always remember, like this old geezer does, keep a supply of prescription meds on hand above the refill. I have a VA scrip and a private sector scrip on my heart and BP stuff, so I'm always, at the very least, 90 days ahead of the game. Buy a little extra non perishable groceries when you see it because you can't get out and hunt or garden like you used to.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at May 06, 2022 12:13 PM (lz5hY)

428
The water in my well is 200 feet down.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 06, 2022 12:09 PM

Ever check your depth to water? I have a well that deep too, and it's surprising that it's only 25 feet to water. So I think a hand pump would be fine, or even a pulley system, or small bucket on a string.

In a nightmare scenario water is gonna be critical.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 06, 2022 12:14 PM (dQvv7)

429 Clorox decomposes into water. It doesn't take too long either.

Posted by: torabora at May 06, 2022 12:11 PM (Y274z)

Not as good as chlorine or commercial purifying agents, but water in a clear 2L bottle in the sun is an option. And 2L bottles are a great, cheap store of potable water while it is on tap.

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 06, 2022 12:14 PM (SH2Zi)

430 When the full effects of these lunatic policies are known, the AoSHQ sidebar ads will be offering us how to legally add belly fat instead of taking it off.

Posted by: 496 at May 06, 2022 12:14 PM (VJsqe)

431 Yep, whig, some of us have done it. I still prefer it to office work. There's a start and stop to tasks and I like working outside. Just got too old to do it and retrained for something else.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - move forward at May 06, 2022 12:15 PM (5HBd1)

432 People
People who have Temples
Are the craziest people in the world
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, If Not Now, When? at May 06, 2022 12:13 PM (FVME7)
***

Speaking of...
Just who the hell are these people that FB thinks I ought to know and link up with anyway?
I mean, I can understand Trixie, Crystal and Tanya, but these others? Never heard of them.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 06, 2022 12:15 PM (anj39)

433 The cottonwoods decided it was time today to start making it snow, and 2 roadrunners just walked by and looked at me with such contempt you would think I was a coyote.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 06, 2022 12:15 PM (AHqtU)

434 Hands up from folks that have actually worked in agriculture.

I helped on our neighbors dairy farm as a kid. Milking, haying, plowing, picking rocks. Long enough to know I didn't want to be a dairy farmer when I grew up.

Posted by: Archer at May 06, 2022 12:15 PM (gmo/4)

435 Ace ip

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 06, 2022 12:15 PM (H4qIP)

436 Campden sulfite tablets are good to have too. Easy to measure out.

Posted by: Roy at May 06, 2022 12:16 PM (Ti+Tv)

437 Up. Nood.

Posted by: rickb223 TEXIT at May 06, 2022 12:16 PM (H4qIP)

438 nor does she care what happens to her and her family during the process.

No; I really don't think any communists in positions of authority don't care about what happens to they and their families. They''ll be sure they're taken care of.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 06, 2022 12:16 PM (fF2aM)

439 Water filtration or even just boiling the water after some rudimentary filtration is usually a better long term solution to drinking water while chemical purifiers, chlorine, etc. are quick but not sustainable over the long haul. I would also recommend settling tanks to remove sediments if using surface water before purifying.

UV is a promising treatment for drinking water and combined with solar/wind/water generated electricity is another latecomer.

Posted by: whig at May 06, 2022 12:16 PM (Iq9dF)

440 " figuring out the cost of feed and such, it costs her about $9 a dozen to produce them."

I have 13 chickens, over the year I average about 6 eggs a day. They free range, and a $15 bag of feed lasts at least a couple weeks. $2/dozen ... not including the initial coup and $4/chicken cost. Closer to $2 per dozen ... not sure what else she is buying. Feed has just gone up a little here.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 06, 2022 12:17 PM (Cus5s)

441
I remember that as a kid in Hawaii, little flakes of black ash would come down on my school if the wind was right. It was our version of snow.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 06, 2022 12:06 PM (Y5qcH)

Yeah, used to love that when I grew up there. If you were close enough to the fields, you'd get long black blades of cane floating down before they broke up into tiny flakes. They were so perfectly formed that you could see the veins and surface texture of the leaves, but coal black.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 06, 2022 12:17 PM (n+4am)

442 On the thought that I can't afford to prepare for contingencies.

https://tinyurl.com/4derdt3u

Posted by: Comrade flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at May 06, 2022 12:17 PM (SH2Zi)

443
Definition of a volunteer? Not capable to be gainfully employed.
Posted by: Archer

as uncle palp would say, dignity canal employees

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (UgAdJ) - at May 06, 2022 12:19 PM (UgAdJ)

444 426 Yes, you can use iodine tablets or liquid to purify water.

Posted by: callsign claymore at May 06, 2022 12:20 PM (Kuiq9)

445 Ever check your depth to water? I have a well that deep too, and it's surprising that it's only 25 feet to water. So I think a hand pump would be fine, or even a pulley system, or small bucket on a string.

In a nightmare scenario water is gonna be critical.
Posted by: Divide by Zero at May 06, 2022 12:14 PM (dQvv7)

200 feet is the depth to water. Full depth of well is 400 feet. And it's only good for about 4 GPM.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 06, 2022 12:20 PM (EHj7T)

446 I helped on our neighbors dairy farm as a kid. Milking, haying, plowing, picking rocks. Long enough to know I didn't want to be a dairy farmer when I grew up.

Posted by: Archer
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Animal husbandry is one of the hardest jobs around because it is literally 24/7 possibility of emergencies with livestock. Row crop farming involves heavy labor at the beginning and end of the planting cycle but requiring weeding and pest control if using ground cultivation techniques. Weeding and pest control tasks for now have been reduced in labor because of chemicals but absent those chemicals, requires backbreaking stoop labor in order to make a crop.

Posted by: whig at May 06, 2022 12:20 PM (Iq9dF)

447 Modern solution like manure and compost
Modern solution like manure and compost
Modern solution like manure and compost
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Posted by: Braenyard at May 06, 2022 12:21 PM (xcd1u)

448 For folks unacquainted with prepper type farming techniques, I advise getting a subscription to the Backwoods Home Magazine and buying some of their compiled past articles on different subjects.

Posted by: whig at May 06, 2022 12:22 PM (Iq9dF)

449 And it's only good for about 4 GPM.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Hokey smokes.

My well was only 125ft but it would pump +12gpm all day and night.

O'course mine was a lot further south so water was not so far down.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 06, 2022 12:26 PM (xcd1u)

450 This ghoul is willing to starve the world in her pursuit of organic religious obedience.

Feature, not a bug.

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at May 06, 2022 12:27 PM (vN+oL)

451 "Sri Lanka banned all non-organic pesticides and fertilizers in 2021 and the results were, well, apocalyptic."

I have pointed out for years now that piling food deep as the left pulls these retarded stunts is the equivalent of fighting for control of a vehicle with a lunatic, and then noticing their seatbelt isn't on....

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at May 06, 2022 12:28 PM (P+D9B)

452 19 Samantha Stevens>>>>>>>>>Samantha Powers.
Posted by: Bulgaroctonus at May 06, 2022 11:08 AM (R+bqd

Now you're going to force me to decide where Samantha Carter fits in that inequality.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 06, 2022 12:35 PM (c5CZx)

453 What was the occasion for the busty redhead's dress?. Her high school prom?. Did they have a contest as to which girl could fall out of their dress fastest while bending over?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 06, 2022 11:50 AM (fF2aM)

All of the above?

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at May 06, 2022 01:14 PM (Zvtjl)

454 good news ?
as more countries use non-organic pesticides and yield falls, maybe the population growth will decrease

and we will save the planet, save animal habitat and these countries might be able to feed, educate and employ their decreasing populations

Posted by: ploome at May 06, 2022 01:47 PM (pT/yi)

455 "Natural solutions like manure and compost" are going to be difficult to come by when we eliminate all meat from our diets and there are no cows producing this "manure" of which you speak.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at May 06, 2022 01:58 PM (K58O6)

456 11 Organic manure, especially human waste, also increases the spread of parasites in crops.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at May 06, 2022 11:06 AM (XvPQV)

Not if properly composted.

Posted by: Bonnie Blue - no longer playing the game at May 06, 2022 02:08 PM (9qiMu)

457 I would advocate for using leftists as organic fertilizer but they are probably toxic in death as in life and that would also sound like a little nutty! Maybe

Posted by: SamIam at May 06, 2022 02:15 PM (oasF3)

458 Democrat Dream Team:

Hunter Biden / Samantha Powers 2024!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 06, 2022 02:40 PM (sy5kK)

459 Here's the problem with manure: DuPont makes this herbicide for pastures called Grazon. It kills broadleaf plants (everything but grass). It's supposed to be harmless to livestock. Indeed, it passes right through horses and cows and into . . . their manure. Last I checked no one knew the active life of this chemical. But if you get manure contaminated with it, and spread it, it will kill or wreck your plants and trees. One little clod in a bed is enough, because all the plants' roots will find it. At best it stunts their growth and they produce tiny fruit.

How much do you want to bet that the manure you get from a horse riding school that only uses organic hay has some Grazon in it? All it takes is a horse brought in that consumed treated hay before it arrived.

I loved using horse barn sweepings, until one little clod killed one of my beds. I had to dig out all the soil and replace it.

Posted by: Gordon Scott at May 06, 2022 02:46 PM (/4qzT)

460 Organic food is way too expensive and is no different then conventiional food but Organic takes more land and more water to raise

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