Passover and Easter Saturday! Thread before the Gardening Thread

What were our observant Jewish friends doing last night?

I am assuming that all the firstborn among them made it through the night.

Happy Passover or Easter Saturday!

Things are crazy out there. I thought that for a little while, we might try getting away from the immediate with some old stuff - stories, quotes and music that remind us that the current craziness does not represent the total sum of existence. Except for this. The brain trust takes Elon Musk to the movies.

Now, back to more timeless themes. Starting with the Jews and Passover. Here's Dennis Prager, explaining in a short video the meaning of the statement below:

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I have had a hard time finding Passover music that I understand. But I get this. Don't give up too soon. I know they're kind of nerd-ish. But they don't need Auto-Tune.

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Here's a different thought: Were there Jews who had something in common with Lot's wife? Jews who didn't leave Egypt?

his weekend, millions of people will sit around Seder tables and memorialize the exodus of the Jews from Egypt.
Guided by the Haggadah, or Passover text--one of the most popular Jewish books ever written--Seder participants are led along in a series of prayers, texts, and activities. We talk and talk and talk about the miracle of liberation; we parse the details of its unfolding, enumerating the many miracles involved; we go over whether we are supposed to commemorate the blessing of freedom only in this life or also in the next one; we assert in words and song the gratitude we feel for being the lucky descendants of those who escaped from slavery.
One thing we do not generally discuss, however, are the Jews who didn't leave.

"Now when Pharaoh let the people go, God did not lead them by way of the land of the Philistines, although it was nearer; for God said, 'The people may have a change of heart when they see war, and return to Egypt,'" states Exodus 13:17. But it is in the next sentence that a mystery emerges: "So God led the people round about, by way of the wilderness at the Sea of Reeds. Now the Israelites went up chamushim out of the land of Egypt."
Wait--what? The Jews went out of Egypt how? What does "chamushim" mean? It is generally translated as "armed," but nearly all commentaries note that its definition is, in fact, uncertain.
Into this breach arrives the legendary medieval Torah commentator Rashi, with a startling assertion. After acknowledging the "armed" option, Rashi offers, with casual sangfroid, another idea: That "chamushim" relates to the Hebrew word for five, and the text should be understood to be saying that only one-fifth of the Jewish people chose to leave Egypt. . .

This interpretation did not sit well with some scholars . . .

But Shemot Rabbah finds Rashi's explanation perfectly reasonable, and even adds to it: "There were sinners among the Jews who had Egyptian patrons, and they had wealth and honor there, [so] they didn't want to leave." In other words, they liked the good life in Egypt.
This, of course, flies in the face of what is commonly understood to be the definition of slavery. Jews who stayed behind were not inexplicably choosing a life of torture; they simply did not want to give up on the comforts of the life they knew. In the later words of Rav Yehuda Henkin, they were "disinclined to trade flesh-pots for freedom."
I've been thinking a lot about these Jews lately.
I think about them when people refuse to accept that beloved blue-chip organizations--the ACLU, the ADL, Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International--no longer fight for their own founding values. . . .

Read the whole thing. What do you think?

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A Christian Redemption Story for Easter

From Angola Prison. A good storyteller makes a difference.

"The Farm"
The first time I saw the inside of a prison was in 1999; I was 16. I hadn't knocked over a fruit stand or been caught stealing hubcaps, I was just an unsuspecting teenager playing piano for a Louisiana gospel group.
One Wednesday evening in October, my pastor and leader of the band gathered us up after prayer meeting and told us we had been invited to come sing at Angola, the Louisiana State Penitentiary. We were all wide-eyed and slack-jawed."
The Farm," as it was known to most, had a long reputation of being not only the largest, but also the bloodiest prison in America. For those of us who had grown up hearing stories, this was like bein invited to sing in the Roman Colosseum with ribeyes tied around our necks. . .

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G.K. Chesterton (1874 - 1936)

An unusual, kind of quirky man who had an impact on how a lot of Christians think. He did radio programs for the BBC. His wife and secretary accompanied him, which likely helped him avoid getting lost on the way to the radio station.

This cost 99¢ and brings me so much joy. 1909 publication, intro by GKC. pic.twitter.com/XEtJHm1Ku5
— Grace 🌾 (@graceisforyou) April 9, 2022

Reminder: Save those physical classic books!

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GKC Quotes:

Every great literature has always been allegorical, allegorical of some view of the whole universe. The Iliad is only great because all life is a battle, the Odyssey because all life is a journey, the Book of Job because all life is a riddle.

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Modern people, especially urban people, think that anything which has got itself printed has somehow passed an examination and received a diploma; has somehow, in fact, shown itself to be true.

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The whole point of the Christian theory is that pain is so real that even God Himself could experience it.

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The whole secret of mysticism is this: that man can understand everything by the help of what he does not understand. The morbid logician seeks to make everything lucid, and succeeds in making everything mysterious. The mystic allows one thing to be mysterious, and everything else becomes lucid.
Part of a longer quote.

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To love anything is to love its boundaries.

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So far from it being self-evident to the modern mind that men are created equal, it is not self-evident that men are created, or even that men are men.

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The fairy tales said that the prince and princess lived happily ever afterwards: and so they did. They lived happily, although it is very likely that from time to time they threw the furniture at each other.

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Repeating some great Easter music

BBC had some music suggestions. Here's one:

Nikolay Rimsky-Korsakov: Russian Easter Festival Overture
This 1888 overture is named for the Svetliy prazdnik or 'Bright holiday', as Easter is known in Russia.
An avowed atheist, Rimsky-Korsakov wrote that he wanted to capture 'the transition from the solemnity and mystery of the evening of Passion Saturday to the unbridled pagan-religious celebrations of Easter Sunday morning'. The piece paints vividly the explosion of light and colour at the end of a long, hard Russian winter.
Religious and pagan themes are entwined at the very heart of the work: Rimsky-Korsakov borrowed themes from the Obikhod, a collection of Orthodox chants that since 1848 had been a mandatory part of the liturgy for every church in Russia.
These austere motifs shine through the wild textures of the orchestra, no more so than at 8'35 when a solo tenor trombone ('a piena voce') evokes the chanting of a priest.

Handel:

More Handel

Do you have a favorite piece of Easter music? Passover music?

Hope you have something nice planned for this weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

Posted by: K.T. at 11:20 AM

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1 Sponge!

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 16, 2022 11:21 AM (F0YaR)

2 Not Sponge. And good morning, KT.

Posted by: olddog in mo at April 16, 2022 11:21 AM (ju2Fy)

3 Sponge is capable of getting his own firsts you know

Posted by: Skip's new phone at April 16, 2022 11:21 AM (2JoB8)

4 I nooded.

Posted by: olddog in mo at April 16, 2022 11:22 AM (ju2Fy)

5 FOUR glasses of wine?

Call me an honorary Jew.

I've earned it. By pracitce, if nothing else.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 16, 2022 11:22 AM (F0YaR)

6 First is first. Content don't give a crap.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 16, 2022 11:23 AM (F0YaR)

7 Hope everyone has a great Passover and Easter

Posted by: Skip's new phone at April 16, 2022 11:23 AM (2JoB8)

8 I am assuming that all the firstborn among them made it through the night.

Not sure. Guess I need to check on my oldest brother.

Posted by: olddog in mo at April 16, 2022 11:23 AM (ju2Fy)

9 olddog in mo

Who's a good boy? You are.

* Shy kiss on the hand for your lovely bride *

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at April 16, 2022 11:26 AM (u82oZ)

10 Hade wine last night for dinner, wife didn't think it was right somehow, but I said it goes with pizza.

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2022 11:26 AM (2JoB8)

11 Do you have a favorite piece of Easter music? Passover music?

I always play Lassus' Lamentations of Jeremiah for Maundy Thursday, Good Friday and Holy Saturday.

https://tinyurl.com/52vycp3k

It fits my mood. Easter always depresses me, because it reminds me of what a rotten person I am.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 16, 2022 11:29 AM (2JVJo)

12 Guided by the Haggadah, or Passover text--one of the most popular Jewish books ever written--Seder participants are led along in a series of prayers, texts, and activities. We talk and talk and talk about the miracle of liberation; we parse the details of its unfolding, enumerating the many miracles involved; we go over whether we are supposed to commemorate the blessing of freedom only in this life or also in the next one; we assert in words and song the gratitude we feel for being the lucky descendants of those who escaped from slavery.

Well, in the secular world of the US, we celebrate the Declaration Of Independence. Similar principles, devinely guided, and if we ain't progressives we consider ourselves "the lucky descendants".

I still believe that, in spite of evidence to the contrary.

Those contrarians can suck my Rebel dick.

Posted by: GnuBreed at April 16, 2022 11:29 AM (F0YaR)

13 Let me tell you a story about my firstborn, Beau.

Blah, blah, blah...

Posted by: F. Joe Biden at April 16, 2022 11:30 AM (Ti+Tv)

14 I've seen that virtual Hallelujah Chorus before. I do love it.

If the legend about George III standing up when he first heard it because of its awesomeness isn't true, it should be.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 16, 2022 11:31 AM (2JVJo)

15 When did Krogers in the area south of Houston get rid of their kosher section?! Only Randall and Sprouts have *any* kosher section and they are small and not correctly separated for Passover stuff.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 11:32 AM (nC+QA)

16 Not sure about Easter music, but when I think mankind can't get any more frigging stupid I watch this video. The band gives an epic live performance about creation, and evolution of the planet. The chick singer has an incredible voice. Its a long song, but soooo worth it. I watched it with my coffee, and I'm already in a good mood.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45brzDJKZ3o

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 16, 2022 11:33 AM (VwHCD)

17 I liked the Tablet article, although once again it attributes all brutality to Putin and ignores the Russian speakers in Donbass or the Roma who are getting kicked around, too. But for Tablet, Zelenskyy is the current "Great Stone Face" to borrow from Hawthorne

Posted by: CN The First at April 16, 2022 11:34 AM (ONvIw)

18 Morning,Salty. How's the weather out your way this weekend.

Posted by: olddog in mo at April 16, 2022 11:35 AM (ju2Fy)

19 Worthy is the Lamb

https://youtu.be/vCcGqMHndxo

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at April 16, 2022 11:36 AM (ifUkZ)

20 Have any Biblical scholars ever given estimates of how many Jews were in Egypt before the exodus?

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at April 16, 2022 11:36 AM (Qhnrt)

21 olddog in mo

Cold and quite windy. Eh -- Kansas.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at April 16, 2022 11:38 AM (u82oZ)

22 Where were the Jews before they were in Egypt?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 16, 2022 11:39 AM (UuD2k)

23 20 Have any Biblical scholars ever given estimates of how many Jews were in Egypt before the exodus?
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at April 16, 2022 11:36 AM (Qhnrt)

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It's estimated that there were 10,000 and not one of them ever paid retail.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at April 16, 2022 11:39 AM (XG2Fi)

24 You don't get the Declaration without the first Commandment - it's the reason behind our current failings as a nation. There is no freedom without God and His blessed restraint.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at April 16, 2022 11:40 AM (oWBc3)

25 Where were the Jews before they were in Egypt?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 16, 2022 11:39 AM (UuD2k)

Their mommies' tummies?

Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2022 11:40 AM (NWBBy)

26 We had a nice Seder and this year no leftovers (hooray), growing grandsons are a good thing, and I don't even have tsimmes left over. I am pleased. I always laugh to myself during the part of the Seder that says "today we are slaves" which is read with not one iota of tongue in cheek by people who will later bemoan the idea that AAs can't get past their slave history. I'm surprised they don't write their own Haggadahs.

Posted by: CN The First at April 16, 2022 11:41 AM (ONvIw)

27 The NY Times ran an editorial headlined "Jews Should Pass Over God" yesterday, because of course they did.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 16, 2022 11:41 AM (haMNq)

28 NYT publishes Op-ed saying to give up God.

Breitbart article. https://tinyurl.com/msb3wevp

Posted by: buzzion at April 16, 2022 11:41 AM (vMCab)

29 My annual blurb for a seven-page comic I did back in 2014: Easter week, as if reported by media as we know it (hence, sorta steampunk). Not always scripture-adherent, but respectful. (The post-crucifixion Saturday page, for me, expresses the awful sorrow and breath-held anticipation of that day.)

Jerusalem Report
Reporting on miraculous events one week in Jerusalem

linked in nic

Posted by: mindful webworker - click nic at April 16, 2022 11:41 AM (x6U0E)

30 Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at April 16, 2022 11:36 AM (Qhnrt)

Not that I've seen, not that I might not have missed such a thing though. The Bible does give an accounting of how many left though, and it's a big enough number I find it difficult to believe 80% had stayed.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 11:41 AM (nC+QA)

31 Reading Dennis Prager Rational Bible Exodus he doesn't get into argument how many people are involved and takes the word in book . I wonder though mostly in military history that numbers seem to me way out of proportion in ancient writings.

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2022 11:42 AM (2JoB8)

32 Well, I'll tell you one thing. Moses better not try that smear the blood of the lamb on your door posts today. PETA'd be all over him.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I am not a biologist at April 16, 2022 11:42 AM (FVME7)

33 I loved The Hallelujah Chorus. I don't know if every tongue, every tribe and every nation was represented in the choir but it reminded of that time to come.

As an aside, imho a pretty woman looks prettiest when smiling and singing a song of worship.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh at April 16, 2022 11:42 AM (eGTCV)

34 I sang at CCI, the old South Carolina State Prison built in the 1800s, AND the women's prison, called at the time Harbison College. I was 16. Got paid $20. Scary, was my second time behind bars. First time they put me in the electric chair, when I was in the 8th grade.

Posted by: Eromero at April 16, 2022 11:44 AM (gktX6)

35 22 Where were the Jews before they were in Egypt?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 16, 2022 11:39 AM (UuD2k)

Israel? They went to Egypt because of the famine. Joseph and the Coat of Many Colors

Posted by: buzzion at April 16, 2022 11:44 AM (vMCab)

36 I wonder though mostly in military history that numbers seem to me way out of proportion in ancient writings.
Posted by: Skip

It as it they were written by Psaki.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I am not a biologist at April 16, 2022 11:44 AM (FVME7)

37 Just after Exodus the census ordered by God found the army numbering 600,000.

That would have made the number about 2M or so.

Posted by: blaster at April 16, 2022 11:44 AM (9otr5)

38 22 Where were the Jews before they were in Egypt?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 16, 2022 11:39 AM (UuD2k)

Abram was born in Ur of the Chaldees. You can Google map it.

Posted by: Roy at April 16, 2022 11:45 AM (Ti+Tv)

39 NYT publishes Op-ed saying to give up God.

Breitbart article. https://tinyurl.com/msb3wevp
Posted by: buzzion at April 16, 2022 11:41 AM (vMCab)

I like the first comment, "let's get rid of the NY Times instead."

It is a literal truth that more deaths can be laid at the feet of corporate media than any current manifestation of God.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2022 11:45 AM (NWBBy)

40 Great content,thanks KT

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 16, 2022 11:46 AM (kf6Ak)

41 Just after Exodus the census ordered by God found the army numbering 600,000.
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That's just the men though...women, children, servants/slaves weren't counted, right?

Posted by: lin-duh at April 16, 2022 11:46 AM (UUBmN)

42 39 NYT publishes Op-ed saying to give up God.

I guess defunding the police wasn't enough for them.

Posted by: Roy at April 16, 2022 11:47 AM (Ti+Tv)

43 I wonder though mostly in military history that numbers seem to me way out of proportion in ancient writings.
Posted by: Skip

It as it they were written by Psaki.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I am not a biologist at April 16, 2022 11:44 AM (FVME7)

Yeah, I wouldn't go ragging on ancient writings and their inaccuracies with numbers.

How many people have died from the Covids?

How many have died from the "vaccine?" Our official numbers are total b.s. too.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2022 11:47 AM (NWBBy)

44 @lin-duh yes that would be just men of fighting age though in those days that probably went from the teens to the 70s.

I don't think the Jews had slaves they took with them as they were slaves themselves.

Posted by: blaster at April 16, 2022 11:48 AM (9otr5)

45 a pretty woman looks prettiest when smiling

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I've been annoyed lately by the smiling, happy people in TV commercials. It's just so phony and presents an unobtainable standard of what our lives should be. A new deodorant will not save us.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I am not a biologist at April 16, 2022 11:49 AM (FVME7)

46 Posted by: lin-duh at April 16, 2022 11:46 AM (UUBmN)

Correct. So we can safely assume no less than 1.2 million total. Which is why I doubt that 80% had stayed behind.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 11:49 AM (nC+QA)

47 The NYT observes only one commandment
"Do as thou will"

Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 16, 2022 11:50 AM (jTmQV)

48 Posted by: blaster at April 16, 2022 11:48 AM (9otr5)

The accounting specifies men from age 20-50.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 11:50 AM (nC+QA)

49 Scary, was my second time behind bars. First time they put me in the electric chair, when I was in the 8th grade.

Posted by: Eromero at April 16, 2022 11:44 AM

Didn't take huh....

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at April 16, 2022 11:50 AM (bVYXr)

50 A new deodorant will not save us.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I am not a biologist at April 16, 2022 11:49 AM (FVME7)

A famous quote from Napoleon Bonaparte

Posted by: Roy at April 16, 2022 11:51 AM (Ti+Tv)

51 They went to Egypt because of the famine. Joseph and the ~~Coat of Many Colors~~ Diversity Coat.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I am not a biologist at April 16, 2022 11:51 AM (FVME7)

52 Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 16, 2022 11:50 AM (jTmQV)

So they're satanists? They certainly give allegiance to the Father of Lies.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 11:52 AM (nC+QA)

53 KT

Exceptional links and choices today. Thank you.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at April 16, 2022 11:52 AM (u82oZ)

54 I could accept that interpretation of "chamushin"; a recurring theme of the Prophets is that only a Remnant will be saved, often taken to mean a tenth. When Elijah has defeated the prophets of Baal, he laments that he is the only one left Faithful, and yet the voice tells him "no; there are still 7,000 who have not bowed their knee to Baal." (1 Kings 19:1

It's a constantly recurring story; the majority falls away and does what they will, but a small minority stays faithful and is saved.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 16, 2022 11:52 AM (r46W7)

55 Sandy Patty: "We Shall Behold Him"
"Your dead shall rise..." Isaiah 26:19

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ3H3lg9NZM

The woman, Dottie Rambo, sitting behind Patty wrote the lyrics.

Posted by: Ju at April 16, 2022 11:53 AM (aTmM/)

56 They went to Egypt because of the famine. Joseph and the [strikethrough-Coat of Many Colors] Diversity Coat.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I am not a biologist at April 16, 2022 11:51 AM (FVME7)

Makes you wonder, was Joe perhaps, teh ghey? Is that why they hate crimed him?

Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2022 11:54 AM (NWBBy)

57 I'm not saying they are satanists, but if they were, what would they be doing differently?

Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 16, 2022 11:54 AM (jTmQV)

58 The NYT observes only one commandment
"Do as thou will"
Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 16, 2022 11:50 AM (jTmQV)

Which reminds me of this:

https://tinyurl.com/3zk5ejzd

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 16, 2022 11:55 AM (2JVJo)

59 Maybe 1/5 of Jews, half-Jew, half-Egyptian.stayed in Egypt?

Posted by: Eromero at April 16, 2022 11:55 AM (gktX6)

60 From Angola Prison is a good story.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at April 16, 2022 11:55 AM (u82oZ)

61 They went to Egypt because of the famine. Joseph and the Coat of Many Colors

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I learned the definition of a word I've heard all life but didn't know what it meant, pied, as in The Pied Piper. It means different colors. The piper was dressed in clothes of different colors.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I am not a biologist at April 16, 2022 11:56 AM (FVME7)

62 57 I'm not saying they are satanists, but if they were, what would they be doing differently?
Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 16, 2022 11:54 AM (jTmQV)

Trying to be less obvious about it?

Posted by: buzzion at April 16, 2022 11:56 AM (vMCab)

63 NYT publishes Op-ed saying to give up God.

This is unbelievably easy to see through. The NYT isn't saying give up on faith. Oh Hell no, their entire readership is very much faith driven.

The NYT observes only one commandment. "Do as thou will"

Not even close. The typical NYT reader is driven by strict observance of a behavioral code. The code just doesn't make any rational sense, and it's not written down. But, just like baseball except for much, much higher stakes, their is a vast unwritten rule-book all the same. Violate that one, and you'll get plunked just as hard as any up and in fastball, by your assumed own team no less.

This is obvious. The NYT op-ed is just doing the same old song and dance, another nibble at the edges. They can't get you to accept their god until you give up your god. That's all their is to it.

Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 11:57 AM (1IziB)

64 Row well and live, 41.

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 16, 2022 11:57 AM (4I/2K)

65 Sat long enough, onto next chore

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2022 11:59 AM (2JoB8)

66 56 They went to Egypt because of the famine. Joseph and the [strikethrough-Coat of Many Colors] Diversity Coat.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I am not a biologist at April 16, 2022 11:51 AM (FVME7)

Makes you wonder, was Joe perhaps, teh ghey? Is that why they hate crimed him?
Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2022 11:54 AM (NWBBy)

The coat wasn't THAT fabulous.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at April 16, 2022 11:59 AM (Qhnrt)

67 I learned the definition of a word I've heard all life but didn't know what it meant, pied, as in The Pied Piper. It means different colors. The piper was dressed in clothes of different colors.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I am not a biologist at April 16, 2022 11:56 AM (FVME7)

I think I'm seeing a pattern here (pun intended).

Wearing fancy colored coats = fagula.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2022 12:00 PM (NWBBy)

68 Makes you wonder, was Joe perhaps, teh ghey? Is that why they hate crimed him?
Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2022 11:54 AM (NWBBy)

The coat wasn't THAT fabulous.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at April 16, 2022 11:59 AM (Qhnrt)

He wasn't ghey, just...colorful.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at April 16, 2022 12:00 PM (atdF6)

69 K.T., that was a great post. Enjoyed the links to The brain trust takes Elon Musk to the movies and From Angola Prison - nice finds.

Good quotes & all.

Thanks.

Posted by: mindful webworker - click nic for the comic at April 16, 2022 12:00 PM (x6U0E)

70 Not many people are familiar with it, but Ralph Stanley (you know him from O Brother Where Art Thou) did an outstanding song about Passover

I'll Pass Over Thee

https://youtu.be/934vY-4gmyc

Well worth a listen even if you don't generally lean towards bluegrass. It's more gospel, really.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - nothing's built, nothing's back, nothing's better at April 16, 2022 12:01 PM (wxhcj)

71 I think I'm seeing a pattern here (pun intended). Wearing fancy colored coats = fagula.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2022 12:00 PM (NWBBy)

Counter-argument; a tasteful and subdued matching Vespa, messenger bag, and Crocs ensemble is just as queer.

Discuss !!!

Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 12:01 PM (1IziB)

72 The NYT op-ed is just doing the same old song and dance, another nibble at the edges. They can't get you to accept their god until you give up your god. That's all their is to it.

Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 11:57 AM (1IziB)

They eventually will have a Ramesses II moment when they will say "His god IS god"

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 16, 2022 12:01 PM (VwHCD)

73 Makes you wonder, was Joe perhaps, teh ghey? Is that why they hate crimed him?
Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2022 11:54 AM (NWBBy)

The coat wasn't THAT fabulous.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at April 16, 2022 11:59 AM (Qhnrt)

True story, my current bride claims when she first got to know me she thought I was gay because of how many shoes I own.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2022 12:02 PM (NWBBy)

74 Do you have a favorite piece of Easter music?

I always liked "Were You There (When They Crucified My Lord.") Probably because it was one of the songs I sang at district and state HS competitions.

Here's Johnny Cash:

https://youtu.be/7T8qwVjfvms

And here's a tenor version:

https://youtu.be/uhGYD1svTM4

Posted by: olddog in mo at April 16, 2022 12:02 PM (ju2Fy)

75 Abram was born in Ur of the Chaldees. You can Google map it.
Posted by: Roy at April 16, 2022 11:45 AM (Ti+Tv)

Fun fact, there has always been some controversy over which ancient "Ur" that was. Although it is most commonly said to be the famous ancient city of Ur in Southern Iraq, there is also a city in southern Turkey now named Sanliurfa, which for over 2,000 years has claimed to be the original Ur-Kasidim (Ur of the Chaldees) There are also several other ancient sites in the general area which may have been named Ur.

What's interesting about them is that 2 generations later, when Jacob is sent to find a wife from among his father's kinsman, this appears to be the area that he travels to. Not 1,000 miles away to southern Iraq.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 16, 2022 12:03 PM (r46W7)

76 Invest in Durable Goods

You forgot the leather fringed coat and hobo harvesting scythe.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at April 16, 2022 12:03 PM (u82oZ)

77 Counter-argument; a tasteful and subdued matching Vespa, messenger bag, and Crocs ensemble is just as queer.

Discuss !!!
Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 12:01 PM (1IziB)

Did they have Vespas back in biblical times?

Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2022 12:03 PM (NWBBy)

78 Breitbart article. https://tinyurl.com/msb3wevp
Posted by: buzzion at April 16, 2022 11:41 AM (vMCab)

An truly ugly opinion piece, which of course ends with a call for open borders. Undoubtedly Shalom Auslander would gladly worship sociology instead.

Posted by: CN The First at April 16, 2022 12:05 PM (ONvIw)

79 True story, my current bride claims when she first got to know me she thought I was gay because of how many shoes I own.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2022 12:02 PM (NWBBy)

You make me think of Steve Martin in "My Blue Heaven". He looks at Rick Moranis (the FBI agent) and says with pity in his voice, "Those shoes are Tragic!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 16, 2022 12:05 PM (r46W7)

80 Willard....

Any suggestions where to watch an online traditional Latin mass for tomorrow's Easter service?
Posted by: JTB

Search YouTube

Posted by: JT at April 16, 2022 12:05 PM (arJlL)

81
Well worth a listen even if you don't generally lean towards bluegrass. It's more gospel, really.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - nothing's built, nothing's back, nothing's better at April 16, 2022 12:01 PM (wxhcj)

I laughed. Jewish gospel. And then I thought about it and realized that's what Jesus taught.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at April 16, 2022 12:05 PM (Qhnrt)

82 olddog in mo

Were you the bass voice?

My old vocal director would call out to "Men and tenors, Women and altos."

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at April 16, 2022 12:05 PM (u82oZ)

83 The entire worldview that the NYT stands for and personifies is the Bizzaro World version of Godliness. This is why I don't even like using the word "left" any more. You can pretty much figure out whatever their position on anything will be by figuring out the Biblical view of it and spinning it 180 degrees.

Posted by: azjaeger at April 16, 2022 12:06 PM (3/XaG)

84 After my mom passed away back in 2020 I was cleaning out her bedroom. There were still a lot of personal items from my father that never got handed down to the kids. One of the things I came across was a "Manual of Devotions." It's full of various prayers, devotionals, etc. for all sorts of events and situations (from the book) "for the use of Catholics - revised by a Jesuit Father." Copyright is 1940. Measures about 3" X 5". 160 pages.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 16, 2022 12:07 PM (BFigT)

85 Matzah bread smeared with peanut butter was a great snack as a kid.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at April 16, 2022 12:07 PM (vuisn)

86 Did they have Vespas back in biblical times?

If you could afford a horse and cart - that was the Cadillac of the day. The Vespa was a poor porter who simply carried you piggy-back.

Hence the Genesis (SWIDT) of the old joke, what do a fat girl and a Vespa have in common ? They're both fun to ride, but you don't want your friend's to catch you on either one !!! Oy Vey !!!

Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 12:08 PM (1IziB)

87 You can pretty much figure out whatever their position on anything will be by figuring out the Biblical view of it and spinning it 180 degrees.
Posted by: azjaeger at April 16, 2022 12:06 PM (3/XaG)

Which is as good a description of satanism as anyone could ever give.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 16, 2022 12:08 PM (r46W7)

88 I've been annoyed lately by the smiling, happy people in TV commercials. It's just so phony and presents an unobtainable standard of what our lives should be. A new deodorant will not save us.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I am not a biologist at April 16, 2022 11:49 AM (FVME7)

Not only are they smiling and happy, but most are dark hued types who are supposed to be so under the boot of Da Man it's a wonder they are in a TV commercial at all.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 16, 2022 12:08 PM (R/m4+)

89 Posted by: CN The First at April 16, 2022 12:05 PM (ONvIw)

He clearly didn't pay attention in shul or cheder.

God doesn't want us to be like him. God wants us to obey the commandments.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 16, 2022 12:09 PM (XIJ/X)

90 azjaeger

A clear look at the XX Century and today would see the rise of evil. Not an abstract evil, but a malignant evil.

Sometimes the scale of evil looks like a large wave getting ready to break, but we are on sturdy ships that slough off the green water.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at April 16, 2022 12:10 PM (u82oZ)

91 The entire worldview that the NYT stands for and personifies is the Bizzaro World version of Godliness. This is why I don't even like using the word "left" any more. You can pretty much figure out whatever their position on anything will be by figuring out the Biblical view of it and spinning it 180 degrees.
Posted by: azjaeger at April 16, 2022 12:06 PM (3/XaG)

I much prefer the term "leftist" over calling them liberals. It connotes being part of a cult that is on the other side of right.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2022 12:10 PM (NWBBy)

92 Posted by: CN The First at April 16, 2022 12:05 PM (ONvIw)

The author took the name 'Love/welcome the Foreigner'?!

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 12:11 PM (nC+QA)

93 MP4, you know this, but Lent is for remembering what rotten people we are. Easter is for remembering that Jesus took all that rottenness on Himself, and God now sees us as purified.

Posted by: GibsonGirl at April 16, 2022 12:12 PM (KXY4V)

94 My favorite Easter music is the Charles Wesley hymn "Christ the Lord is Risen Today ". It is always the first hymn sung on Easter Sunday, and generally the only Sunday it is sung. I can't get through it without getting blubbery.

Posted by: Pod Hamp at April 16, 2022 12:12 PM (H+EKX)

95 The NYT op-ed is just doing the same old song and dance, another nibble at the edges. They can't get you to accept their god until you give up your god. That's all their is to it.

Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 11:57 AM (1IziB)

Yet Auslander has a seder while still having an obvious hate for the God of the Torah. He does not try to understand that the rabbis he knew as a child were angry men, but decided that "religion is bad". And of course, Putin is probably Pharoah, but he doesn't say that.

Auslander bitches that God paints with a broad brush and surely many Egyptians hated slavery, yet his brush against religion is twice as broad.

Posted by: CN The First at April 16, 2022 12:12 PM (ONvIw)

96 Adam Schiff Reportedly Making Moves to Replace Pelosi as Speaker If She Retires

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To dream the impossible dream . . .

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I am not a biologist at April 16, 2022 12:13 PM (FVME7)

97 "That "chamushim" relates to the Hebrew word for five, and the text should be understood to be saying that only one-fifth of the Jewish people chose to leave Egypt"

Another recurring word/theme of interest is "remnant". It seems people are constantly failing (as they become institutions, especially), but God manages to "reserve" a few, even if they are hidden in caves.

"Yet I have left me seven thousand in Israel, all the knees which have not bowed unto Baal, and every mouth which hath not kissed him." I Kings 19

Noah was perhaps the prototype of a small remnant, obeying God as the world turned evil. Moses came down from the mount and the people had already made a golden calf to worship ... seems like a trend.

Same when Jesus came for Israel, the people mostly accepted him, but the "organized church" would not let go of their power, and had fully sold out. imo most institutional churches have the same problem today, too big, too centralized in distant locations.

There is indeed power in numbers ... One fifth of early America perhaps led the American Revolution, so maybe a faithful fifth of devoted/involved Americans can defeat the current Evil Empire in DC?

Posted by: illiniwek at April 16, 2022 12:14 PM (Cus5s)

98 Not only are they smiling and happy, but most are dark hued types who are supposed to be so under the boot of Da Man it's a wonder they are in a TV commercial at all.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 16, 2022 12:08 PM (R/m4+)

That's an interesting perspective. Of course, these days "Da Man" is a middle aged white urban woman.

So teevee commercials relentlessly show black men as subservient to them.

Interesting.....

Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2022 12:14 PM (NWBBy)

99 CN The First

Auslander invokes Mote and Beam. Biblical.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at April 16, 2022 12:14 PM (u82oZ)

100 laughed. Jewish gospel. And then I thought about it and realized that's what Jesus taught.

*

Came not to something something but to fulfill something something.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - nothing's built, nothing's back, nothing's better at April 16, 2022 12:14 PM (wxhcj)

101 Posted by: GibsonGirl at April 16, 2022 12:12 PM (KXY4V)

Excellent description.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 12:14 PM (nC+QA)

102 Which is as good a description of satanism as anyone could ever give.

I'm positive that at least the rank and file, as in the folks around you and me every day that spew this shit, are not satanists. Why do I say that ?

Because an actual evil deity, I'm sure, would at the minimum coordinate his cannon fodder on at least a couple common points, to control them if nothing else. Yet two minutes spent with any of these tools, where you actually hit them with hard questions and stomp them down when they go on their immediate "shriek at any personal resistance" gambit shows that they don't even agree with each other.

I don't think any over-arching entity organizes them, because they aren't under any kind of control. They're not even anarchists. They're just over eighteen children living in a world where they have no real resistance.

Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 12:15 PM (1IziB)

103 Adam Schiff Reportedly Making Moves to Replace Pelosi as Speaker If She Retires

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To dream the impossible dream . . .
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I am not a biologist at April 16, 2022 12:13 PM (FVME7)

Adam Schiff, as in, Ed Buck's best friend?

THAT Adam Schiff??

Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2022 12:15 PM (NWBBy)

104 Auslander invokes Mote and Beam. Biblical.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at April 16, 2022 12:14 PM (u82oZ

And he makes money being a renegade jew and a celebrity atheist.

Posted by: CN The First at April 16, 2022 12:15 PM (ONvIw)

105 Were you the bass voice?

My old vocal director would call out to "Men and tenors, Women and altos."
Posted by: NaCly Dog
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Hah, I wish. No not bass, first tenor.

Posted by: olddog in mo at April 16, 2022 12:16 PM (ju2Fy)

106 Fistbump to Were You There (when they crucified my lord)

We sang that in college and in all state. It was a fantastic piece. I am as bass / baritone, and it was such a simple but complex song.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - nothing's built, nothing's back, nothing's better at April 16, 2022 12:16 PM (wxhcj)

107 91 The entire worldview that the NYT stands for and personifies is the Bizzaro World version of Godliness. This is why I don't even like using the word "left" any more. You can pretty much figure out whatever their position on anything will be by figuring out the Biblical view of it and spinning it 180 degrees.
Posted by: azjaeger at April 16, 2022 12:06 PM (3/XaG)

I much prefer the term "leftist" over calling them liberals. It connotes being part of a cult that is on the other side of right.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2022 12:10 PM (NWBBy)

I refer to them as commie fascists. It covers all the bases of who they are.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at April 16, 2022 12:17 PM (Qhnrt)

108 I don't even like using the word "left" any more....
Posted by: azjaeger

I endeavored to quit using the inaccurate and inadequate "right" and "left" designations a long time ago, but it was hard to find the best alternative descriptors.

Lately, I've taken to using "right"... and "wrong."

Posted by: mindful webworker - All Jerusalem is abuzz... at April 16, 2022 12:18 PM (x6U0E)

109 Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 12:15 PM (1IziB)

Yet, "Do as you will" is the satanist motto. Satan doesn't need his followers in lockstep. And the fact that each lives in hell already because of their hatred of all life, is probably an added amusement.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 12:18 PM (nC+QA)

110 "What were our observant Jewish friends doing last night?
I am assuming that all the firstborn among them made it through the night."

Hey, it was the Pharaoah's son and the rest of the Egyptians, that got whacked, not us members of The Tribe (as long as we had our doorposts marked for the occasion).

Posted by: 370H55V at April 16, 2022 12:19 PM (WusEB)

111 An truly ugly opinion piece, which of course ends with a call for open borders. Undoubtedly Shalom Auslander would gladly worship sociology instead.

Posted by: CN The First at April 16, 2022 12:05 PM (ONvIw)

But if we cry "Auslander raus!" they will cancel us

Posted by: Kindltot at April 16, 2022 12:20 PM (xhaym)

112 There is indeed power in numbers ... One fifth of early America perhaps led the American Revolution, so maybe a faithful fifth of devoted/involved Americans can defeat the current Evil Empire in DC?
Posted by: illiniwek at April 16, 2022 12:14 PM (Cus5s)

Speaking of fifths, imagine if you had, say, 10 Republican Governors essentially doing what Abbott and DeSantis are doing... nullifying the "orders" from DC.

In my fantasy, that's what a second (third?) American revolution would look like. A bloodless, blatant and absolute refusal of states to adhere to ANYTHING coming out of Washington that isn't explicitly in the Constitution.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2022 12:20 PM (NWBBy)

113 Yet, "Do as you will" is the satanist motto. Satan doesn't need his followers in lockstep. And the fact that each lives in hell already because of their hatred of all life, is probably an added amusement.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette

But, but, but - they are living their best life.

snort

Posted by: Tonypete at April 16, 2022 12:21 PM (0Ao06)

114 Sean Penn Says He's "Thinking About Taking up Arms Against Russia" Just One Month After Fleeing Ukraine

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To dream the impossible dream . . .

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I am not a biologist at April 16, 2022 12:21 PM (FVME7)

115 Lately, I've taken to using "right"... and "wrong."

For a long, long time, I've viewed people in the "those who worship authority" and "those who don't" camps. The "worship authority" camp fights every night inside the perimeter over what the authority should look like, but it'll be a cold day in Hell before they move outside and into the wild.

Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 12:21 PM (1IziB)

116 He clearly didn't pay attention in shul or cheder.

God doesn't want us to be like him. God wants us to obey the commandments.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 16, 2022 12:09 PM (XIJ/X)

Yet he was raised in a Haredi home in Monsey. His wife loves to write about Jewish "guilt" over everything. They're crass opportunists who slam Judaism for money.

Posted by: CN The First at April 16, 2022 12:21 PM (ONvIw)

117 I doubt we'd be allowed to sing it any more.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - nothing's built, nothing's back, nothing's better at April 16, 2022 12:21 PM (wxhcj)

118 I much prefer the term "leftist" over calling them liberals. It connotes being part of a cult that is on the other side of right.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2022 12:10 PM (NWBBy)

I refer to them as commie fascists. It covers all the bases of who they are.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at April 16, 2022 12:17 PM (Qhnrt)

If we're among friends, sure. But any reference to fascists gets lost in the weeds of ignorance regarding how leftist the fascists really are... and who the real fascists are today.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2022 12:22 PM (NWBBy)

119 Passover question (because I'm over 29 and don't remember) was it 1st born male child?
If so, even though I have 3 older sisters, would that be me.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 16, 2022 12:23 PM (S+sVl)

120 Yet, "Do as you will" is the satanist motto. Satan doesn't need his followers in lockstep. And the fact that each lives in hell already because of their hatred of all life, is probably an added amusement.

Then you see the blind advancement of a chaos they don't even want, if they could be shown the final result, as the machinations of an evil deity. Frankly, I see it as the general human condition; no deity necessary.

Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 12:24 PM (1IziB)

121 "It's a constantly recurring story; the majority falls away and does what they will, but a small minority stays faithful and is saved." Posted by: Tom Servo

ha, yeah, that is what my first thought was as well.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 16, 2022 12:24 PM (Cus5s)

122 Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 12:21 PM (1IziB)

I've thought of it in terms of "Those who live to control" vs. everyone else, but your formulation is good too. Too bad there's no one word description that could catch on.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 12:26 PM (nC+QA)

123 The NYT piece is indictive of how liberals look at the rest of us. I don't think there's any way there can be a reconciliation between them and the normal segment of society. For one, they're not interested in it. The "left" has designs on a society that is alien to anything I'm comfortable with and they're getting closer to achieving it.

We're a lot further behind the curve than we might realize.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at April 16, 2022 12:26 PM (BFigT)

124 I no haz punctuation... a question is actually supposed to end with a question mark, not denoted with a period, as a statement. doh.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 16, 2022 12:27 PM (S+sVl)

125 Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 16, 2022 12:23 PM (S+sVl)

First born male. So yes, you.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 12:27 PM (nC+QA)

126 Hiya KT !

Posted by: JT at April 16, 2022 12:27 PM (arJlL)

127
First born male. So yes, you.
Posted by: Polliwog

Thanks, I'm texting the sybs letting the know I made it through Passover right now.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at April 16, 2022 12:28 PM (S+sVl)

128 This is obvious. The NYT op-ed is just doing the same old song and dance, another nibble at the edges. They can't get you to accept their god until you give up your god. That's all their is to it.
Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 11:57 AM (1IziB)

Their god is godless, moral anarchy. And that is a powerful contagion. People might dislike how often I bring up the "sociology=theology" posters and statements by my former rabbi, but how else does he justify CRT, LGTBQ, and abortion? All of these and the quite frankly, paganism, taught by his ilk, are serious tenets of their new theology. I suppose Auslander is one of them.

I do, however, recognize that living in a very exclusive community and looking Amish level "different" does not appeal to everyone. Among my patients were a few escapees from Monsey and Lakewood. Most just live their new lives and do not go apeshit with hatred.

Posted by: CN The First at April 16, 2022 12:28 PM (ONvIw)

129 If we're among friends, sure. But any reference to fascists gets lost in the weeds of ignorance regarding how leftist the fascists really are... and who the real fascists are today.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2022 12:22 PM (NWBBy)

The creator of Fascism was a radical socialist who broke away from the Italian socialist party in favor of creating a national socialist party he named Fascist.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at April 16, 2022 12:29 PM (PCUPG)

130 illeniwek @121-
A remnent as described in scripture.

Posted by: Eromero at April 16, 2022 12:29 PM (gktX6)

131 Thanks for this, KT

Russian Easter Overture was my gateway drug to classical music when I was yet a mere lad. To this day decades later, the Russian and Eastern European composers of the 19th century are my favorites: Smetana, Borodin, Mussorgsky, Grieg, Tchaikovsky, Dvorak.

And that scene from Martin Call is one of my all-time favorite movie scenes in any genre. It really nails how that fictional trading firm, which totally is not supposed to be Goldman, in a day changed the housing mania into the subprime mortgage crisis.

Great picks!

Posted by: crisis du jour at April 16, 2022 12:30 PM (fo5YT)

132 Vintage Christian metal. Bloodgood -- The Messiah

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I0J2vCD0pXU

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at April 16, 2022 12:31 PM (OssQ4)

133 I've thought of it in terms of "Those who live to control" vs. everyone else, but your formulation is good too. Too bad there's no one word description that could catch on.

My catch-all question, for decades, was simple. Tell me the proper relationship between State and Citizen. Tell me when the Citizen must obey, and when the Citizen can justifiably ignore the State ?

How people react to that question tells me all I care to know. There are visceral reactions, from certain groups of Democrat and Republican voters, at the very mention of the Citizen ignoring, let only willingly disobeying, the State.

Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 12:31 PM (1IziB)

134 Margin Call

Thanks, Spellclock

Posted by: crisis du jour at April 16, 2022 12:31 PM (fo5YT)

135 Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at April 16, 2022 12:29 PM (PCUPG)

Right. *We* know that, but it's been obfuscated by enemies inside the gate who weakened the term to practical meaninglessness. So when OweB+owMao's economic policy was *literally* fascist it was impossible for normal people to hear beyond "thing I don't like" and understand the warnings.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 12:34 PM (nC+QA)

136 Right. *We* know that, but it's been obfuscated by enemies inside the gate who weakened the term to practical meaninglessness. So when OweB+owMao's economic policy was *literally* fascist it was impossible for normal people to hear beyond "thing I don't like" and understand the warnings.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 12:34 PM (nC+QA)

Yup.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2022 12:37 PM (NWBBy)

137 People might dislike how often I bring up the "sociology=theology" posters and statements by my former rabbi, but how else does he justify CRT, LGTBQ, and abortion?

Full disclosure, I'm not religious in the slightest. I also believe "religion is the opiate of the masses". The thing is, I believe the masses need opiated on on something, and Western Christianity is a better drug than Socialism or Communism. You might say I'm mildly pro-religious, although I don't personally partake.

One of my suspicions of religion, especially organized religion, is the unquestioning agreement with every tenant - top to bottom - as evangelized by it's spokesman. I can't find any one person whom I completely agree with on anything. How could I ? I constantly examine, critique, and make minor revisions to my own.

I don't trust anyone who can spout 100% agreement on any philosophy. I don't know why you would be surprised when one that can do such spouting suddenly spouts something different. They're a mouthpiece. Nothing more.

Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 12:37 PM (1IziB)

138 Jews who stayed behind were not inexplicably choosing a life of torture; they simply did not iwant to give up on the comforts of the life they knew.

So, like Jesus, Moses came to save the unattended and abused.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 16, 2022 12:39 PM (utM8c)

139 I endeavored to quit using the inaccurate and inadequate "right" and "left" designations a long time ago, but it was hard to find the best alternative descriptors.

Somehow even socialist and progressive don't seem to pack enough of a descriptive punch to name what we are up against.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 16, 2022 12:40 PM (t3/qz)

140 I think I might start listening to Bishop Fulton Sheen on YouTube again.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at April 16, 2022 12:41 PM (lz5hY)

141 Michigan House Republicans and Rashida Tlaib shared the same inaccurate Passover message

https://bit.ly/3JREVSe

Could somebody fluent in Jewish and who has a Twitchy VIP account explain this to me?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I am not a biologist at April 16, 2022 12:41 PM (FVME7)

142 Full disclosure, I'm not religious in the slightest. I also believe "religion is the opiate of the masses". The thing is, I believe the masses need opiated on on something, and Western Christianity is a better drug than Socialism or Communism. You might say I'm mildly pro-religious, although I don't personally partake.

One of my suspicions of religion, especially organized religion, is the unquestioning agreement with every tenant - top to bottom - as evangelized by it's spokesman. I can't find any one person whom I completely agree with on anything. How could I ? I constantly examine, critique, and make minor revisions to my own.

I don't trust anyone who can spout 100% agreement on any philosophy. I don't know why you would be surprised when one that can do such spouting suddenly spouts something different. They're a mouthpiece. Nothing more.
Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 12:37 PM (1IziB

So I take that you think the US Constitution is a "living, breathing" document.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at April 16, 2022 12:41 PM (Qhnrt)

143 KT -

as a person who seems to enjoy the classics, you might enjoy this new youtube video on Jane Austin ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21cNaGc9XDQ

Blessed Holyday to you ...

Posted by: Adriane the History Critic ... at April 16, 2022 12:42 PM (okV1R)

144 Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 12:37 PM (1IziB)

In that light, perhaps it would be clarifying to understand that satanists aren't so much encouraged to worship satan, I realize that's counter intuitive, as to worship *themselves* (i.e. each one's highest holy day is their own birthday) which probably doesn't take much encouragement.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 12:42 PM (nC+QA)

145 The greatest Easter music was written by the greatest composer of them all: Johann Sebastian Bach. Two sections from the Mass in B Minor - Crucifixus (https://tinyurl.com/4y7yf6nf) and Resurrexit (https://tinyurl.com/mr3jvj92) - say it all.

Posted by: Nemo at April 16, 2022 12:43 PM (S6ArX)

146 Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 16, 2022 12:40 PM (t3/qz)

We could try to make "control freak" a thing. God knows it's accurate enough.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 12:43 PM (nC+QA)

147 So I take that you think the US Constitution is a "living, breathing" document.

It might as well be. We'd have to tear down at least half of the existing Federal structure if we went back to interpreting the documents as written. And it's not like they're a mystery. I'm convinced the Founders all died with carpal tunnel, and probably wrote down thoughts while they were in the out-house.

And yes, there are several nuggets inside those documents that I would have never ratified. I'm an anti-Federalist to the core.

Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 12:45 PM (1IziB)

148 So many Christian churches are getting woke. I don't know if it is the pastors bending theology to please the parishioners or if the pastors are getting woke and corrupting the parish.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 16, 2022 12:46 PM (t3/qz)

149 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I am not a biologist at April 16, 2022 12:41 PM (FVME7)

The accompanying graphic shows normal loaves of bread instead of matzah.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 12:47 PM (nC+QA)

150 I just walked a few blocks running an errand, and a little boy (6ish) was skipping alongside his mom, singing, "Hallelujah! Hallelujah! Hallelujah, hallelujah, hal-le-lu-jah!" So happy!

Posted by: m at April 16, 2022 12:47 PM (/xkVv)

151 Right and Left work pretty well. You can embellish it with Leftist commie marxist rat bastards.

Posted by: fd at April 16, 2022 12:47 PM (vrz2I)

152 Ahhh, the four cups depicted in the top photo remind me of an outstanding audio I've listened to many times, called "The Fourth Cup", by Dr. Scott Hahn, which describes the connection between Jesus' crucifixion and the Passover Seder that Jesus held with the Apostles at the Last Supper:

https://youtu.be/v1yAvrVoYzo

This is very much worth a listen.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 16, 2022 12:48 PM (8fUId)

153 Holy Crap!

Posted by: Holy Crap at April 16, 2022 12:49 PM (glGDV)

154 It's not about what they say. It's about living their life in Christ. If wish you could have met Pastor George. He did maintenance at a rental yard. Never saw him angry. He tried his best to see the good in everyone. And he would have been fine with your disagreement. He lived a Christian life.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at April 16, 2022 12:49 PM (YynYJ)

155 So many Christian churches are getting woke. I don't know if it is the pastors bending theology to please the parishioners or if the pastors are getting woke and corrupting the parish.

Again, what I've never understood, what I disdained, even as a kid with my ass being forcibly drug into church.

Fifty or more grown men, all nodding in unison, then walking out without a clue what that man up front was saying. I know - my ass got tanned on more than one occasion for double checking the listening comprehension of those around me.

Fifty grown men, all confident in their own reasoning, won't even agree on a particular Subway sandwich for lunch.

Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 12:49 PM (1IziB)

156 Great statement Polliwog

Posted by: CN The First at April 16, 2022 12:49 PM (ONvIw)

157 142. Tenet, not tenant.

Posted by: Holy Crap at April 16, 2022 12:51 PM (glGDV)

158 In that light, perhaps it would be clarifying to understand that satanists aren't so much encouraged to worship satan, I realize that's counter intuitive, as to worship *themselves* (i.e. each one's highest holy day is their own birthday) which probably doesn't take much encouragement.

Take away the deity. I say people behave exactly the same way. And the more prosperous they are, the more they do it. Or the more desperate they are. Honesty comes, in no small part, from having your basic needs satisfied, and yet not yearning for more.

Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 12:52 PM (1IziB)

159 I call them fascists.

"But but...the left can't be facist! That's right, not left!"

Okay. But they're fascists. If they espouse and practice the merger of Corporate and State to enforce their will, that's fascism, according Mussolini himself. So they're not left. Fine, they're not, I'm cool with those rules. But they are indeed practicing fascism to the fullest. I don't see what's so hard about admitting these people are no longer on the left. Habit? Tradition? Fuck that. They're fascists.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at April 16, 2022 12:52 PM (OssQ4)

160 142. Tenet, not tenant.

Posted by: Holy Crap at April 16, 2022 12:51 PM (glGDV)

It's not a spelling or vocab test. And I don't care.

Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 12:54 PM (1IziB)

161
Michigan House Republicans and Rashida Tlaib shared the same inaccurate Passover message

https://bit.ly/3JREVSe

Could somebody fluent in Jewish and who has a Twitchy VIP account explain this to me?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I am not a biologist

https://archive.ph/4HtbW

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 16, 2022 12:54 PM (63Dwl)

162 Mr. Bean in church
https://youtu.be/duxkusCZmJc

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 16, 2022 12:55 PM (4I/2K)

163 It's "dragged into church" not "drug" but sorry you beaten "new poster"

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 16, 2022 12:55 PM (3PSDE)

164 The accompanying graphic shows normal loaves of bread instead of matzah.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette

Thanks.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I am not a biologist at April 16, 2022 12:55 PM (FVME7)

165 Well put, Polliwog the 'Ette.
This is, of course, the original sin described in Genesis. That ye can be as gods, and not worship any other.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at April 16, 2022 12:56 PM (jTmQV)

166 The virtual Hallelujah is wonderful. New to me.

Posted by: m at April 16, 2022 12:56 PM (/xkVv)

167 Okay. But they're fascists. If they espouse and practice the merger of Corporate and State to enforce their will, that's fascism, according Mussolini himself.

You're not wrong. And quoting Mussolini is indeed getting back to the basics.

My only counterpoint is this; according to that definition, which is one I agree with, fascism has been alive and well in the United States for a long, long time. And growing.

Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 12:56 PM (1IziB)

168 Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 12:52 PM (1IziB)

I think you misunderstand a fundamental point. Although Lucifer is called "The god of this world" he doesn't care if he specifically is worshipped. His goal is to destroy the relationship between The Father and His children, and to that end any focus other than The Father entirely meets his goal.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 12:56 PM (nC+QA)

169 161: lol

Posted by: CN The First at April 16, 2022 12:57 PM (ONvIw)

170 163 sorry you beaten "new poster"
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 16, 2022 12:55 PM (3PSDE)

?

Posted by: m at April 16, 2022 12:57 PM (/xkVv)

171 https://archive.ph/4HtbW
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 16, 2022 12:54 PM (63Dwl)

Heh.

Next year, the Repubs and Tlaib will send out Christmas cards with the banner, "He is Risen!"

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at April 16, 2022 12:58 PM (ZSK0i)

172 Fun watch

@alexstein99
Asking the Gay community what they think of Joe Biden with Sav H!
https://twitter.com/alexstein99/status/
1515073773241729025

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at April 16, 2022 12:59 PM (kf6Ak)

173 Honesty comes, in no small part, from having your basic needs satisfied, and yet not yearning for more.

Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 12:52 PM (1IziB)

True, which is why that level of provision was thr prayer in one of the last Proverbs.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 12:59 PM (nC+QA)

174 160 Abandoned spelling and vocabulary? Thanks for the rent free space.

Posted by: Holy Crap at April 16, 2022 01:01 PM (glGDV)

175 My only counterpoint is this; according to that definition, which is one I agree with, fascism has been alive and well in the United States for a long, long time. And growing.

Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 12:56 PM (1IziB)

Agreed. It didn't start with OweB+owMao, progressive Rs are much to blame as well, but he certainly kicked the capture of business into high gear.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 01:01 PM (nC+QA)

176 Has Professor Fingerbang and the First Holy Catholic Family put on a public display of their pious nature and deep connection to Jesus yet?

I'm looking forward to an Easter Homily from Joe and anticipate that it will rival the teachings of Thomas Aquinas and even Pope Francis!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at April 16, 2022 01:02 PM (Wnd0C)

177 His goal is to destroy the relationship between The Father and His children, and to that end any focus other than The Father entirely meets his goal.

That's good, if it works for you. I can't imagine an existence where my focus wasn't allowed to shift anywhere else.

But seriously, if it works for you, keep doing it. This is the part where we should just let it be. Religion is not for me, but I'm glad it gives you something. Seriously.

Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 01:02 PM (1IziB)

178 This is timely.

Congratulations, trans activists: You've helped a male, blood-drinking, Satanist, rapist/murderer get into a women's correctional facility and possibly impregnate two prisoners

https://bit.ly/37VImu7

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I am not a biologist at April 16, 2022 01:03 PM (FVME7)

179 Dr. Bone, trust not in princes.

Posted by: Eromero at April 16, 2022 01:03 PM (gktX6)

180 One thing about Dr. Hahn's lectures that I love is how he connects the Old Testament to the New.

For example, I was astounded to learn that Jesus was crucified on the same hill outside Jerusalem where Abraham was ordered to sacrifice Isaac. That's just one of many, many connections that Hahn elucidates in his many books and lectures.

The Old and New Testaments are incredibly tightly connected in so many ways.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 16, 2022 01:04 PM (8fUId)

181 156 Great statement Polliwog
Posted by: CN The First at April 16, 2022 12:49 PM (ONvIw)

Lots of them!

Posted by: m at April 16, 2022 01:04 PM (/xkVv)

182 Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 01:02 PM (1IziB)

Hey, you have legitimate free will and always have the right to refuse a gift that is offered.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 01:05 PM (nC+QA)

183 K.T., always look forward to your Saturday posts.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 16, 2022 01:05 PM (utM8c)

184 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 12:34 PM (nC+QA)

Yes we know that but the majority of regular guys on the street who may not be woke or liberal don't even know that. Same phenomenon of Republicans becoming the 'racist' Party contrary to the actual history that is diametrically opposite of that. Even relatively recent history.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at April 16, 2022 01:05 PM (PCUPG)

185 >>>Somehow even socialist and progressive don't seem to pack enough of a descriptive punch to name what we are up against.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 16, 2022 12:40 PM (t3/qz)
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communist & evil

Posted by: Braenyard at April 16, 2022 01:07 PM (utM8c)

186 Is it happy passover?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 16, 2022 01:07 PM (t3/qz)

187 170 it was supposed to be "sorry you were beaten", new poster.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 16, 2022 01:09 PM (QpaCu)

188 Watch this video.

https://tinyurl.com/ysxbrdx3

Posted by: JackStraw at April 16, 2022 01:10 PM (ZLI7S)

189 Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at April 16, 2022 01:05 PM (PCUPG)

And I believe it was enemy action in both cases with the *intent* of ensuring that the average person is made deaf to those concepts so they can become common practice again. The control freaks *love* slavery, racism, and fascism, but they have , until recently, been wise enough to not *say* so.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 01:10 PM (nC+QA)

190 True story, my current bride claims when she first got to know me she thought I was gay because of how many shoes I own.

Posted by: BurtTC

Heh. Your "current bride" reminds me of the time during law school that I went to a party with my then wife, who I had just gotten finished having a big fight with, and I introduced her as "my first wife, Pam" to all my friends.

You will not be shocked to learn that my introduction was prophetic, and we were separated within weeks of that party.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 16, 2022 01:10 PM (8fUId)

191 Is it happy passover?

Nothing unhappy that I see about it. A nice conversation about religion, the nature of man, and such. And a couple editors with very little to add but spelling and vocab critiques.

Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 01:11 PM (1IziB)

192 Agreed. It didn't start with OweB+owMao...

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette

We can say Obama's name and still despise him. He's not Voldemort. He won't appear when you name him. Formulations like that belong at less serious -- and less intelligent -- websites than this. No offense.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at April 16, 2022 01:11 PM (OssQ4)

193 Abandon all spelling and grammar, he who enter here.

And don't even get me started on math.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I am not a biologist at April 16, 2022 01:11 PM (FVME7)

194 Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 01:10 PM (nC+QA)

I agree. They knew that controlling the language is a crucial part to achieve their goals.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at April 16, 2022 01:12 PM (PCUPG)

195 Headline: Texas Scraps Border Truck Inspections After Gridlock Ensues

Reality - all 4 mexican border states signed agreements to increase enforcement on their side.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 16, 2022 01:12 PM (t3/qz)

196 Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at April 16, 2022 01:11 PM (OssQ4)

I use that construction because it *perfectly* encapsulates the personality of the person in question. If anything, it would be the opposite of saying He Who Can't Be Named.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 01:15 PM (nC+QA)

197 I agree. They knew that controlling the language is a crucial part to achieve their goals.

Fun Fact - most people, in daily conversation, simply can't discuss concepts or images without a clear cut word to define said vague idea. Most people are not original like that.

Hence, the effectiveness of arguing over definitions or usage of words. It really does limit thought, because most people don't truly think. They mentally regurgitate.

Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 01:15 PM (1IziB)

198 Why is a 30 gallon bag much too small for my 13 gallon can? I'm legitimately pissed about this. If we can't have standards about units of measure than WTF.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 16, 2022 01:15 PM (ybIRR)

199 Is it the only one in the box/roll that doesn't fit?

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 01:17 PM (nC+QA)

200 Is it ok if I spell TFG's name correctly and don't capitalize? Like ubama? Because I think that shows the right amount of respect.

Posted by: Eromero at April 16, 2022 01:18 PM (gktX6)

201 Gardening nood

Posted by: Duke Lowell at April 16, 2022 01:18 PM (u73oe)

202 We will have to flip the NPCs. It feels dirty that's the only way. "Communism bad" is a blunt hammer, but life throws problems at you that require hammers.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 16, 2022 01:19 PM (ybIRR)

203 200. I usually substitute a 0 for the O

Posted by: CN The First at April 16, 2022 01:19 PM (ONvIw)

204 BC at 51 years, I still can't wrap my mind around British definitions of billion and trillion. Makes no freaking sense. And don't get me started on crore, that Orcish numbering India has.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at April 16, 2022 01:20 PM (OssQ4)

205 We can say Obama's name and still despise him. He's not Voldemort. He won't appear when you name him. Formulations like that belong at less serious -- and less intelligent -- websites than this. No offense.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus

Awwwww, does that mean I can't call him "The Emperor Shit Midas" any more?

You're no fun.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 16, 2022 01:22 PM (8fUId)

206 Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at April 16, 2022 01:20 PM (OssQ4)

We won that definition war.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at April 16, 2022 01:22 PM (PCUPG)

207 I Knew The Bride When She Used To Rock and Roll
Nick Lowe
https://youtu.be/Kn1CXbf2xF8

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 16, 2022 01:22 PM (4I/2K)

208 Is it ok if I spell TFG's name correctly and don't capitalize? Like ubama? Because I think that shows the right amount of respect.
Posted by: Eromero

Hey I don't even mind "Jugears O'fuckstick", but if I have to try and puzzle out a code that even includes math symbols, it just looks like something out of an LSD tripper's journal. Just sayin'.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at April 16, 2022 01:23 PM (OssQ4)

209 The Arabic spelling

Posted by: Eromero at April 16, 2022 01:23 PM (gktX6)

210 Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at April 16, 2022 01:20 PM (OssQ4)

India also has the Lakh (100,000). Doesn't seem too hard to convert to millions right? My anti-numerical brain just refuses and I had to ask the author of the article (something about human trafficking, it's been a while) for the conversion. Which is what Twitter is actually good for when it's allowed to be.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 01:26 PM (nC+QA)

211 Pollywog, I tried to figure it out and make it work in my brain, reading Wikipedia tables on it and everything. My brain won't accept any of it. Commas in the wrong places, all the different words for the strange values. My brain says Nope.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at April 16, 2022 01:29 PM (OssQ4)

212 Cat Ass Trophy at April 16, 2022 01:07 PM

Are you thinking of Ramadan? I would be happy if the Angel of Death passed over my household and I escaped from slavery.

Posted by: KT at April 16, 2022 01:30 PM (0ghg2)

213 When I encounter a number in Indian media with any of those I just type "1.45 crore in normal numbers" into Bing and it tells me.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at April 16, 2022 01:31 PM (OssQ4)

214 Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at April 16, 2022 01:23 PM (OssQ4)

Each part represents a fact about him or statement by him that I don't want people to forget ( not that I came up with the formulation).

Owe: (his insane spending, mostly on "funds for friends" fake industry stuff),
B+: grade he gave himself in answer to a softball interview question,
Bow: for his apology tour embarrassing world leaders by bowing
Mao: All is closest advisors were proud Maoists.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 01:33 PM (nC+QA)

215 Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at April 16, 2022 01:31 PM (OssQ4)

I'll have to remember that. I love that "normal" in this case means US version.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 01:34 PM (nC+QA)

216 BC at 51 years, I still can't wrap my mind around British definitions of billion and trillion. Makes no freaking sense. And don't get me started on crore, that Orcish numbering India has.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at April 16, 2022 01:20 PM

Saw an announcement in the local weekly paper for a foreclosure auction. All of the property dimensions were listed in "vara" units, i.e. northern boundary is 47.25 vara long. Had to look that one up.

It's a carry over from when Texas and the rest of the US Southwest was owned by Mexico and is 32.9682 inches in length. I assume the property deed had the measurements in vara and they had to list it that way because that's the legal definition on record.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at April 16, 2022 01:36 PM (bVYXr)

217 Liquor store near our house has humorous messages on their signs. This week's are Easter themed. "Let's drink until Peeps sound appetizing" is one of them.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at April 16, 2022 01:37 PM (fTtFy)

218 Texas Scraps Border Truck Inspections After Gridlock Ensues

My property deed is in perches.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 16, 2022 01:40 PM (t3/qz)

219 The shitlibs think about Trump every day. I certainly don't think about Obama every day. Nor would I even if he was likely to be president in 2 years.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at April 16, 2022 01:43 PM (ybIRR)

220 Well, that was an interesting copy paste fail

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 16, 2022 01:44 PM (t3/qz)

221
Same when Jesus came for Israel, the people mostly accepted him, but the "organized church" would not let go of their power, and had fully sold out. imo most institutional churches have the same problem today, too big, too centralized in distant locations.

There is indeed power in numbers ... One fifth of early America perhaps led the American Revolution, so maybe a faithful fifth of devoted/involved Americans can defeat the current Evil Empire in DC?
Posted by: illiniwek
----

Maybe this is why the independent Evangelical Churches are thriving...

Posted by: lin-duh at April 16, 2022 01:44 PM (UUBmN)

222 Dinesh D'Souza's new movie 2000 Mules sounds like it is a must see event.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 16, 2022 01:51 PM (ZLI7S)

223 216 BC at 51 years, I still can't wrap my mind around British definitions of billion and trillion. Makes no freaking sense. And don't get me started on crore, that Orcish numbering India has.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at April 16, 2022 01:20 PM
----------------------

Might be part of their problem.
A nation that can't count can't win.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 16, 2022 01:53 PM (utM8c)

224 220 Well, that was an interesting copy paste fail
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 16, 2022 01:44 PM (t3/qz)
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Fishing for something?

Posted by: Braenyard at April 16, 2022 01:54 PM (utM8c)

225 "My property deed is in perches.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy"

That's an odd scale.

Posted by: fd at April 16, 2022 01:58 PM (vrz2I)

226 Most people don't truly think unlike "new poster. Lol

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 16, 2022 01:58 PM (CNCr8)

227 JackStraw yes it dies look like a must see, watched trailer and hooked me. Said have read 4 books on the election and it's not enough.

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2022 02:02 PM (2JoB8)

228 Does not dies

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2022 02:05 PM (2JoB8)

229 "Maybe this is why the independent Evangelical Churches are thriving..." Posted by: lin-duh

could be, but I know nothing about them except for that "independent" descriptor you included.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 16, 2022 02:05 PM (Cus5s)

230 Skip

Watch this short clip of an interview with folks behind True The Vote. I think this is the stuff 2000 Mules is based on.

The number of bogus votes in 2020 is staggering.

https://tinyurl.com/ysxbrdx3

Posted by: JackStraw at April 16, 2022 02:09 PM (ZLI7S)

231 "bogus votes in 2020"

Waiting for the trials and sentencing.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 16, 2022 02:10 PM (utM8c)

232 Posted by: Braenyard at April 16, 2022 02:10 PM (utM8c)

There have been a couple, but they get no press since it's difficult to keep up the fiction of zero fraud otherwise.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at April 16, 2022 02:13 PM (nC+QA)

233 The Jews who stayed behind: did they not paint the blood on their doors; did they too lose their firstborn? And still refused to leave.....

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at April 16, 2022 02:16 PM (K58O6)

234 >>Waiting for the trials and sentencing.

While you are waiting you can entertain yourself with Michael Sussmann's trial which starts one month from today unless he takes a plea deal or the judge grants him an extension.

And he's screwed.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 16, 2022 02:18 PM (ZLI7S)

235 There have been a couple, but they get no press since it's difficult to keep up the fiction of zero fraud otherwise.
Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette
--------------

Want to see yuge Donald J. Trump production show trials that sweep horror through the criminal community.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 16, 2022 02:19 PM (utM8c)

236 Don't know who the judge is but if he's offered a plea "the community" will force him to take it.

One way or the other they will make the news go away.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 16, 2022 02:22 PM (utM8c)

237 JackStraw I am sure millions of fake votes were loaded into unsecured ballot street boxes, just reloaded time and time again into tabulation and just hacked in and totaled into real votes. No one has ever I heard try and explain subtraction to vote totals.

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2022 02:25 PM (2JoB8)

238 Fun Fact - most people, in daily conversation, simply can't discuss concepts or images without a clear cut word to define said vague idea. Most people are not original like that.

It must be very enervating for you to have conversations with people who are not up to your level of original thinking, "new poster".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 16, 2022 02:26 PM (fF2aM)

239 >>One way or the other they will make the news go away.

I doubt Durham would offer him a plea unless he gave someone else up. Durham appears to be going after a conspiracy so unless he gave a co-conspirator that Durham couldn't get any other way I doubt he gets a plea.

If you read Durham latest filing which dropped last night he appears to have the goods.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 16, 2022 02:33 PM (ZLI7S)

240 67 I learned the definition of a word I've heard all life but didn't know what it meant, pied, as in The Pied Piper. It means different colors. The piper was dressed in clothes of different colors.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, I am not a biologist at April 16, 2022 11:56 AM (FVME7)

I think I'm seeing a pattern here (pun intended).

Wearing fancy colored coats = fagula.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 16, 2022 12:00 PM (NWBBy)

Whoooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

Posted by: The Nature Boy Ric Flair at April 16, 2022 02:33 PM (HJcWr)

241 >>JackStraw I am sure millions of fake votes were loaded into unsecured ballot street boxes, just reloaded time and time again into tabulation and just hacked in and totaled into real votes. No one has ever I heard try and explain subtraction to vote totals.

Yea, it never made any sense but the True The Vote people claim they have proof.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 16, 2022 02:36 PM (ZLI7S)

242 The Atlanta surveillance video I think was one they just repeated stuffing the same ballots over and over again into vote tabulation.

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2022 02:42 PM (2JoB8)

243 Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at April 16, 2022 01:37 PM (fTtFy)

That's hilarious.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 16, 2022 02:43 PM (fF2aM)

244 Judge won't drop Durham case against Clinton lawyer Sussmann - ://nypost.com/2022/04/13/judge-wont-drop
2 days ago - The charge against Sussmann carries a statutory maximum of 5 years in prison.

Durham writes of 'spoofed' data, Clinton 'conspiracy...
https://www.washingtontimes.com/ 21 hours ago U.S. District Court filings reveal a new character...

Latest Durham Filing on Sussmann Shows the Net Is...
redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/04/16/latest ..
2 hours ago - [Thread on latest Durham filing]

Posted by: Braenyard at April 16, 2022 02:43 PM (utM8c)

245 I finished my first batch of German potato salad. It's going to my best friend's home. Debating if I want to make batch for me today while everything is out or wait until tomorrow.

Posted by: olddog in mo at April 16, 2022 02:44 PM (ju2Fy)

246 Many Jews today if Passover was going to happen again many would rather bow down to big government

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2022 02:45 PM (2JoB8)

247 It must be very enervating for you to have conversations with people who are not up to your level of original thinking, "new poster".

It seems to tickle you, in places a man can't or won't, to follow me around all day. I'd trade him a shotgun, or good freezer beef, just to occupy you enough to shut the Hell up and leave me alone.

Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 02:46 PM (CC2oZ)

248 Easter Saturday in next Saturday. Today is Holy Saturday.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at April 16, 2022 02:47 PM (JVCkA)

249 Sure we will have potato salad tomorrow

Posted by: Skip at April 16, 2022 02:50 PM (2JoB8)

250 We also see that these high-tech spies were able to penetrate one of Mr. Trump-s Wi-Fi routers.

In all, the group assembled by tech executive Rodney Joffe snatched proprietary internet traffic from Trump Tower, Mr. Trump's Central Park West apartment building and the Trump White House in early 2017.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 16, 2022 02:55 PM (utM8c)

251 Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 02:46 PM (CC2oZ)

You want me to leave you alone. Post under one handle and don't keep changing it all the time.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 16, 2022 02:56 PM (fF2aM)

252 148 So many Christian churches are getting woke. I don't know if it is the pastors bending theology to please the parishioners or if the pastors are getting woke and corrupting the parish.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 16, 2022 12:46 PM (t3/qz)

It's winemoms and retired lefties. They get involved in their churches, get elected to leadership, then they get into the leadership of the diocese/Presbytery and then the national/international church. Once there, they make the policy for the church, and more importantly, the seminaries. After that, it's about 10 years before there is a big split in the denomination, and about 70% of the denomination splits off into a new sect, but the media will act like the remaining sect is the "mainstream" church.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at April 16, 2022 02:56 PM (HJcWr)

253 Because when you had the same handle all the time for a while we even had some decent conversations, but I have no idea who you think you're fooling here, or whether that is part of your "original thinking"_to change your handle repetitively.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 16, 2022 02:58 PM (fF2aM)

254 Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 02:46 PM (CC2oZ)

FenSpouse has occupied me quite a bit today. Insults about spouses are such original thinking. Snort. Adios.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 16, 2022 03:03 PM (fF2aM)

255 FenSpouse has occupied me quite a bit today. Insults about spouses are such original thinking. Snort. Adios.

I wish you'd adios for good. Just stop following me. But you won't. You have a demand, apparently. You want things a certain way.

You are the stereotype of a Yankee bitch. And also the stereotype of why nice Republicans lose, all in one can't mind your own business package.

Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 03:43 PM (aj3dY)

256 I'm very late to this thread, in fact it may be dead.

And I haven't read most of the content. But it looks as though it's a religious theme, so I will just post a couple relevant thoughts:

Roy Schoeman is a convert from Judaism, in fact he doesn't refer to himself as a convert, but rather a post-Messianic Jew. He is now a professor of theology at a Catholic university. He posts a lot of content about Catholicism's Jewsih roots, the liturgy, the vestments, the sacraments particularly. He has some good youtubes up about Holy Week this year.

Posted by: kallisto at April 16, 2022 03:44 PM (GYsNo)

257 And regarding my own Catholic faith, and our current pope who has left us puzzled, if not irate at times:

A friend said she was worried he was going to greenlight abortion. I don't have that same fear, I'm more inclined to believe he will ok homosexual marriage in the church.
But this past week the Pope traveled to Malta and had a specific message about advocating for life in all its stages.

And I also found out he made a statement about transgenderism being "demonic".

I stopped badmouthing him some months ago when I checked myself and realized we should be praying for him, not constantly trashing him. So maybe the prayers of millions are bearing fruit.

Posted by: kallisto at April 16, 2022 03:49 PM (vOIi6)

258 Posted by: Invest in Durable Goods at April 16, 2022 03:43 PM (aj3dY)

"You are the stereotype of a Yankee bitch."

Oh, no...I can't have this. This must not stand! There's only ONE capital "B" on this blog, and it's moi.

Sorry, Fenlon Spoke. You can't have my title. But I will allow you to be Deputy Stereotypical Yankee Bitch, if you complete an application for the position and I approve it.

Posted by: kallisto at April 16, 2022 03:56 PM (RrXiN)

259 to get back on topic -

re: the Prager quote above. There's a difference between Liberty and License.

Our nation was founded on the principle and foundation of Liberty, which the Founders knew required a population that lived within certain moral bounds.

License is an entirely different prospect

Posted by: kallisto at April 16, 2022 03:59 PM (1A0tH)

260 You should have been a little more careful about that 'rules mean freedom' thing.

Posted by: LenNeal at April 16, 2022 04:08 PM (U11/V)

261 Catholicism's Jewsih roots, the liturgy, the vestments, the sacraments particularly. He has some good youtubes up about Holy Week this year.
Posted by: kallisto
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I find it humorous, preacher at the Baptist church I attend has commentary on this very thing.

[no dog in this fight]

Posted by: Braenyard at April 16, 2022 04:12 PM (utM8c)

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