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Sunday Morning Book Thread - 03-27-2022 ["Perfessor" Squirrel]

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Good morning, Horde! Welcome to the prestigious, internationally acclaimed, stately, and illustrious Sunday Morning Book Thread! The place where all readers are welcome, regardless of whatever guilty pleasure we feel like reading. Here is where we can discuss, argue, bicker, quibble, consider, debate, confabulate, converse, and jaw about our latest fancy in reading material, even if it's nothing more than the license plate on the back of the vehicle featured in today's library pic. As always, pants are required, unless you are wearing these pants...for when you absolutely, positively need to check your makeup.

NOTE ON COMMENTS:

As a general rule on specialty threads (Book, Pet, Gun, Food, Gardening, etc.), please keep comments mostly relevant to the specialty of that thread. Comments that are simply about the events of the day don't really belong here. At the very least, a good rule of thumb is to obey the "100 comment" rule, where all comments should by relevant to the specialty subject until after 100 comments or so. Thank you.

Now on to the sticky, Frenchy goodness of the Sunday Morning Book Thread!

PIC NOTE

Skip sent me this week's library picture. This is the brain child of a retired school teacher in Italy who decided he wanted to bring the joy of books to children in remote villages. He spends his days driving around the local communities, sharing out the books from his mobile library. You can see how happy he is to be sharing his love of reading with children. Truly a man who has found his calling.

QUESTIONS FROM THE HORDE FOR THE HORDE

So I received a few questions this week in my email that I'd like to share with you all. Sometimes crowdsourcing an answer is a great way to really dive into a subject. And there is no greater source of collective wisdom than the Moron Horde. I also want to try something a little different. Instead of answering the questions in the comments, I've created a survey form where you can answer the questions. This has a couple of advantages. For one, the responses to the questions are all collected in one place and I don't have to sort through the comments trying to find them. Second, I can easily compile the responses into a more user-friendly format that I can share with everyone next week. Third, you have more freedom to respond as you see fit. You are not limited to the same character or carriage return limit that Pixy enforces in the comment box (reduces spam).

So here are the questions, which are also embedded in the survey form:


  1. Writing is often a solitary profession, but effective writing duos are definitely a thing. Who are some of your favorite writing duos? What strengths does each author bring to the story? How do they complement each other to create a better story?

  2. How do you come across your favorite books or series? Recommendations? Advertising? Saucy cover art? What attracted you to pick up your favorite books?

  3. This one is a bit more challenging...Say you've completed your first NaNoWriMo challenge (National Novel Writing Month) and have written a story of 50,000+ words. Now what? What's the next step in the writing process? How/when should you solicit reviewers to provide feedback? How do you know if your story is even worth the trouble of publishing?

Here is the survey: SURVEY LINK

Feel free to fill it out more than once, if you are so inclined. Or post your responses in the comments (though I'd prefer the survey). I'll share the results out next week!

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BOOKS BY MORONS

We have two great books for you today, written by long time lurkers and morons in good standing.

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First, Gary Rafferty (Vn Redleg) has written a powerful, poignant memoir about his time spent in Vietnam: Nothing Left to Drag Home: The Siege of Lao Bao, During Operation Dewey Canyou II; Written by an Artilleryman Who Survived It. He was an artilleryman during the Laos invasion. Gary was kind enough to send me a copy to read. I am very, very glad I read it. It's raw, honest, and extremely emotional. Everyone who has ever been in a combat zone will immediately recognize the horror and madness Gary and his team went through. Anyone who has never been in a combat zone (like me) will still be profoundly affected by the events. War fundamentally breaks down our humanity until we become unrecognizable to ourselves. And when you come back, it's near impossible to fully reclaim your humanity again. A part of you is always left behind on the battlefield.

I'm glad you liked Nothing Left to Drag Home. Thank you for taking the time and effort to read it. I know full well it's a hard read. It was an even harder write. I carried that story around for over 50 years. It was time to finally set it down on paper.

I know Nothing Left to Drag Home, sits in a unique way on one's mind. It doesn't reinforce stereotypes. It changes and expands what sacrifice, comradeship and leadership mean. I think it probably shocks the reader. I had to tell the story without smoothing off the edges. Because it had to reflect the experience.

I think the folks at Ace's are the perfect audience for it. Thank you in advance for bringing it to their attention. I don't often post on Ace's site. But I go there because it's where I can be among folks who have been through the crucible, and many there have also 'seen the elephant'. The level of snark and the open and outright rejection of the spew of bullshit coming from the "official sources" and utter contempt for the 'experts' matches my own. I feel like the spirit of some of the regulars at Ace's could have sat next to me at Lao Bao, as we shook our heads at all the madness. None of us there had the foresight to say aloud to each other "this, all this, is madness". Instead, we remained silent and thus internalized it. At Ace's we openly say it and properly put it where it really belongs. I can't tell you how honest and refreshing that is.

We need more memoirs like Gary's to remind us that war, ultimately, is madness and chaos personified. War is one of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse for a reason. You can obtain both an electronic and physical copy via Amazon.

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Our second entry comes from another long time lurker, Shane Gries: Battle Drills, an entry in JF Holmes' Fallen Empire universe.

An exciting new entry in the universe of the Fallen Empire. started by The Irish Brigade and continued in Overrun!

When the Empire rises, it's glory and fame for the soldier, but when it falls and you're on the long end of a failing supply chain, you have to wonder what all the dying is for. Terran Union Marine Dave Hernandez fights in the last bitter actions of the Succession Wars, living in the mud and blood as incoming fire decimates his squad, the men he called brothers.

After the inevitable drawdown he finds himself as the crewman of a tramp freighter, running between the worlds of the Demilitarized Zone. The DMZ is a place where not a lot of questions are asked and maybe a veteran can find some peace among the stars. Sure, the ship is war surplus, but so is Hernandez. The fact that there's a group of Private Military Contractors protecting the ship means little to him until Illyrian pirates attack and board the vessel, overwhelming the security detail and forcing the Former Marine to bring back old skills that hadn't died as much as he had thought.

With his competence for war noted and his ship wrecked Hernandez signs on with a mercenary company. Far above his head corporate machinations are aiming to make a killing, playing both sides and sacrificing the men with guns for an immense profit, and lives mean nothing compared to money for the ultra rich. Betrayal follows betrayal and the plan descends into bloodshed and mayhem.

I admit I'm not at all familiar with this series, but it does sound like it has adventure and action enough for my taste. Like many military science fiction adventure series, it's written by military veterans who are able to bring their own experiences to the written page. I may have to give it a whirl. (*sigh* One of the downsides to this Sunday Morning Book Thread thingy is that my TBR pile is going to grow exponentially!) Battle Drills can be found on Amazon.

MORON RECOMMENDATIONS


I hope everyone has a great week of reading. Painting bedrooms, driving everywhere for kid activities, Lent stuff, and life are not leaving any noticeable room these days. But I'm slowly working my way through Bruce Catton's This Hallowed Ground, and the maps he provides are indispensable since I'm too lazy to go get one and keep it handy while I read.

Posted by: Catherine at March 20, 2022 08:06 AM (ZSsrh)

Comment: I'm a huge fan of maps. Even a poorly drawn map can add so much context to a story. This Hallowed Ground is a history of the Civil War. Maps are tremendously useful in charting the battlefields and seeing who is charging where. Heck, if I'm reading a book that takes place in the real world, I'll fire up Google Maps just to get a sense of the location in which the action is taking place. Don't underestimate how much value a good map can add to a story, real or imagined!

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Here is a book I just finished about a week ago - Vincent McCaffrey's The Dark Heart of Night.

https://tinyurl.com/mr2ccmmb

McCaffrey owns and runs the Avenue Victor Hugo bookshop in Lee, NH and is also a prolific novelist. This particular book takes place in 1937 NYC and follows Daily Mirror photographer Hugh McNeill and his (soon-to-be) wife Cass Green as they investigate a series of killings dubbed "The Annie Oakley Murders."

The book is very well written, with sharply-drawn characters, an intriguing storyline, authentic period details and a grand sense of time and place. . .

but it is over 600 pages long. McCaffrey admits that he didn't bother editing for length (he self-publishes) and it shows. IMO, at least half of the book is Hugh going off on philosophical tangents that could easily have been cut with no damage to the story. YMMV.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 20, 2022 08:17 AM (2JVJo)

Comment: Editing is one of the most essential aspects of writing anything of quality, even if it's just an announcement that will be going out to hundreds of faculty members. For a story, that's even more important! You can have an excellent story, but if the editing is flawed, then the whole work suffers somewhat. This applies to movies and television as well as written stories.

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Started (reading) a new book this week: The Alexiad by Anna Comnena. She was a Byzantine princess and the book is a bio of her father, Emperor Alexius. (If this sounds kind of Dune-ish, yes, I think she was the model for Princess Irulan.)

I'm only a little way into it but already she's described a big set-piece battle between her father and her future father-in-law. You would think that sort of thing would lead to awkward moments at Thanksgiving, but apparently in those days fighting a war with someone wasn't even a faux pas.

Posted by: Trimegistus at March 20, 2022 09:37 AM (QZxDR)

Comment: Ah, history! Lots of great stories there. When most of Europe was related to each other by blood, that led to some awkward situations. Arranged marriages between noble blood were the norm to cement alliances and keep the major fighting to a somewhat manageable level. Didn't always work if you were on the outs with your father-in-law, though. The Alexiad (cool name) takes place during the middle of the 12th century, approximately during the Second Crusade.

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That's about all I have for this week. Thank you for all of your kind words regarding my Sunday Morning Book Thread. I hope I am able to continue doing this for the foreseeable future. I do have some plans for this space to help grow it and increase our active participation. Stay tuned!

If you have any suggestions for improvement, reading recommendations, or writing projects that you'd like to see on the Sunday Morning Book Thread, you can send them to perfessor dot squirrel at-sign gmail dot com. Your feedback is always appreciated! You can also take a virtual tour of my library at libib.com/u/perfessorsquirrel.

PREVIOUS SUNDAY MORNING BOOK THREAD - 03-20-22 (hat tip: vmom stabby stabby stabamillion) (NOTE: Do NOT comment on old threads!)

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1 Tolle Lege

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2022 09:00 AM (2JoB8)

2 Is a bookmobile if someone throws a book at you?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 27, 2022 09:01 AM (7bRMQ)

3
g'mornin', book-ish 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 27, 2022 09:01 AM (DUIap)

4 Nice rolling library!

Good morning, book freaks.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 27, 2022 09:02 AM (Dc2NZ)

5 No reading this week!

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 27, 2022 09:04 AM (yrol0)

6 Oooo, double squirrels!

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 09:04 AM (ONvIw)

7 So, is there a word amount that makes a novella into a novel?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 27, 2022 09:04 AM (7bRMQ)

8 Two book pimps on the same corner -- gotta be awkward.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 27, 2022 09:05 AM (Dc2NZ)

9 Two book pimps on the same corner -- gotta be awkward.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 27, 2022 09:05 AM (Dc2NZ)
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You have no idea...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 27, 2022 09:06 AM (K5n5d)

10 Nice Bookmobile!

Those pants....cocaine is a helluva drug.

The squirrel's pimp hands are strong.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 27, 2022 09:06 AM (R/m4+)

11 I read True Evil by Greg Isles. In Natchez, Mississippi a divorce lawyer and a virologist assassin, who has developed ways to murder people without fear of being caught, team together to offer super-wealthy clients a way for them to be rid of their spouses without loosing half of their net worth. The story is interesting and fast-paced. Relaxing, easy escape reading.

Posted by: Zoltan at March 27, 2022 09:06 AM (PCmsM)

12 Prof, your survey isn't loading on my browser. Been spinning for over a minute.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 27, 2022 09:06 AM (7bRMQ)

13 "But of Mmatmuor and Sodosma, men say that their quartered bodies crawl to and fro to this day in Yethlyreom, finding no peace in respite from their doom of life-in-death, and seeking vainly through the black maze of nether vaults the door that was locked by Illeiro."

--- from "The Empire of the Necromancers" by Clark Ashton Smith

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 27, 2022 09:06 AM (Dc2NZ)

14 I finished Demons. It was really quite a great book, and I recommend it. It's long, it's full of patronymics, and is very relationship focused, IMO. I was not really surprised by the ending, but still saddened. It has a timely feel.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 09:07 AM (ONvIw)

15 Should finish Race Marxism by James Lindsay today, it has focused a lot of today's events on Marxism especially this Racism hoax.
Accelerate the Contradictions was a Marxism and that's why we get fake race attacks very often, they need to show its out there, you just can't see it. Which is another thing he brings up that Marxism has its own supposed "Science "
(Transgenderism anyone?) that you rubes can't see until you are "woke".
And their only goal is a Antirace Dictatorship and no other goals. Placing a judge on the Supreme Court is a big step for them.

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2022 09:08 AM (2JoB8)

16 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.

For those interested, the Kindle Daily Deals today has Louis L'Amour's "The Walking Drum" on sale for $1.99. JUust FYI.

Posted by: JTB at March 27, 2022 09:08 AM (7EjX1)

17 Hiya Bookies !

Posted by: JT at March 27, 2022 09:09 AM (arJlL)

18 Morning, 'rons and 'ronettes.

Had hoped to have finished my editing of the new Theda Bara novel, but no. I went to bed Friday night and woke up in the middle of the night realizing that I had a very big plot hole which I hadn't even suspected.

It's not much, just a narrator's reaction, but it is necessary to the book. It should only be a short bit, but I have been clawing at the walls trying to figure out what to write.

Add to that a personal problem that I did not foresee, and I am not feeling tip-top today.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 27, 2022 09:09 AM (2JVJo)

19 Prof, your survey isn't loading on my browser. Been spinning for over a minute.
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 27, 2022 09:06 AM (7bRMQ)
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Hmm...Which browser do you normally use?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 27, 2022 09:09 AM (K5n5d)

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Comment: I'm a huge fan of maps.

Same here. There was a 'map store' a few minutes from where I worked. I loved to go in their and purchase maps of some of my favorite waterways. I would then frame them and hang them on the wall. To be able to look at the image of a particular inlet and remember details about the area was always very pleasurable.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 27, 2022 09:09 AM (dQvv7)

21 Morning all, thanks Squirrel! Great job!

This week I got sucked into the vortex of reading stories at:

https://www.storiesbehindthestars.org/

If anyone is interested in volunteering to write and record soldiers' stories... check it out. The organization is looking for writers to research and contribute. Great concept, great cause.

Posted by: goatexchange at March 27, 2022 09:10 AM (APPN8)

22 There were maps, and sketched routes, in Pooh books, probably the first maps I ever saw.

Posted by: m at March 27, 2022 09:10 AM (CRS/E)

23 Perfessor Squirrel is a Siamese Twin!!!

Which one is the Evil Twin?

Maybe you can get a surgical divorce as you're only conjoined at the tail...

Posted by: naturalfake at March 27, 2022 09:10 AM (5NkmN)

24 Love that little Italian bookmobile and the smile on the owner's face. What a generous activity.

Posted by: JTB at March 27, 2022 09:10 AM (7EjX1)

25 Prof, your survey isn't loading on my browser. Been spinning for over a minute.
Posted by: OrangeEnt

Relax; the survey stinks.

Posted by: JT at March 27, 2022 09:11 AM (arJlL)

26 Hmm...Which browser do you normally use?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 27, 2022 09:09 AM (K5n5d)

Firefox. I have ghostery and the usual ad blockers on.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 27, 2022 09:13 AM (7bRMQ)

27 I finished Penric's Fox by Louis McMasters Bujold.
It is a fantasy book set in the universe of The Curse of Chalion, where the Five gods move on the Earth and demons and elementals appear, generations of Wealding Shamans culture their spirit animals, and sorcerers are made by demon possession, though for good or evil depends on whether the demon or the person is ascendant.
Penric is a Temple Sorcerer, being possessed by the demon Desdemona, asked to investigate the murder of another Temple Sorcerer, and to find what happened to her demon. Assisted by Wealding Shamans, they discover the demon has leapt to a fox with cubs, and must prevent it from being killed and stop the murderer from killing the rest of the intended victims. And not let his own demon become ascendant.
It is 160 pages and fills my call for "books the size of the old DAW paperbacks" and has Bujold's writing, plotting, and logic.
At one point Penric asks the murderer, "You [did all this] to feel better? Did it work?"
The Chalion books always had a feel of the Southern France/Catalan medieval romances. I know people will be turned off by the demons, but it is integral to the universe, not to shock readers.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 27, 2022 09:13 AM (xhaym)

28 With regards to The Dark Heart of Night, here's what McCaffrey wrote in his "disclaimer:"

The Dark Heart of Night is published by the author and has not been edited for reasons of length (unhappily for those addicted to the passionless bits and bytes of a digital romance), political correctness (human relationships are what they were) or age appropriate language.

Don't get me wrong - it's a good book and I enjoyed it, but it really could be cut by half and still be as entertaining.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 27, 2022 09:13 AM (2JVJo)

29 Worst fictional writing duo: Bill Ayers and Barry Soetoro, "Dreams from My Father"

Posted by: cool breeze at March 27, 2022 09:14 AM (UGKMd)

30 18 I went to bed Friday night and woke up in the middle of the night realizing that I had a very big plot hole which I hadn't even suspected.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 27, 2022 09:09 AM (2JVJo)

That's nice, how your brain sussed out a problem while you were sleeping.

Posted by: m at March 27, 2022 09:14 AM (CRS/E)

31 Love the map of Pooh Corner and environs:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Acre_Wood

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 27, 2022 09:14 AM (Dc2NZ)

32 My favorite writing duo would have to be Kuttner and Moore. They were very prolific separately and together, and used several pseudonyms that make identifying what was a collaboration and what was a solo effort difficult.

Probably their most famous collaboration is as Lewis Padgett on Mimsy Were the Borogoves. While I am a fan of Lewis Carroll’s writing (also a pseudonym) it was the Padgett story that inspired my blog name.

And, more recently, I went to that well again for the Padgett Sunday Supper Club site. I was originally going to call it the Padgett County Supper Club, but discovered that Padgett is also a nearly completely invisible ghost town here in Texas, which appealed to me as a title.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 27, 2022 09:15 AM (U+Oxn)

33 29 Worst fictional writing duo: Bill Ayers and Barry Soetoro, "Dreams from My Father"
Posted by: cool breeze at March 27, 2022 09:14 AM (UGKMd)

I can't imagine Barry did any writing other than sign the royalty checks...

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at March 27, 2022 09:15 AM (PiwSw)

34 Now, if that Bookmobile sold Dreamsicles and played "Turkey in the Straw" as he drove up. You'd really have something!

Posted by: naturalfake at March 27, 2022 09:15 AM (5NkmN)

35 Perfesser, I like that you link to moron authors' cover art. I like to see what a book looks like.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 27, 2022 09:15 AM (2JVJo)

36 Morning again, folk,

I'm back and cleaned up from my workout, having some breakfast. Shortly I'll pack and light my Sunday morning pipe. Currently I'm reading A.B. Guthrie's The Big Sky, which befitting its title is a big book. It begins in a very immediate fashion and hooks you right away. At the library yesterday I picked up an Agatha Christie I've never read (Death on the Nile, if it matters), a collectioohn Dickson CArr's first novel, and a Hard Case Crime publication of James M. Cain's The Cocktail Waitress.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 09:15 AM (c6xtn)

37 29 Worst fictional writing duo: Bill Ayers and Barry Soetoro, "Dreams from My Father"
Posted by: cool breeze at March 27, 2022 09:14 AM (UGKMd)

I know very few people who actually read it, though it was popular to have a copy of that and Audacity of Hope. I knew a gung-ho donk who read both, and ended up sitting out the election of 2008, because of the Ayers/Obama vision.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 09:16 AM (ONvIw)

38 I mentioned this on the EMT, but it was too early for anybody. We watched Ghostbusters: Afterlife last night. If you have any doubts about it, set them aside for 2 hours and enjoy. It's exciting, funny, it brings back a number of the old characters and features a swarm of links (I guess now they're known as "call-backs") to the original film. There are some lines of dialog which could have come straight from the HQ. ("I know how many sides a triangle has." "I thought you were just being obtuse.")

If you were a fan of the original, I think you'll at least like this one.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 09:16 AM (c6xtn)

39 It is 160 pages and fills my call for "books the size of the old DAW paperbacks"
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Yes, Kindltot, I have many and they are the perfect length for a story written by a skilled wordsmith.

Not that I don't love some doorstops, but they can be a slog and a second job at times.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 27, 2022 09:17 AM (Dc2NZ)

40 Clark Ashton Smith definitely had a way with words. One of my favorite opening lines, from the Hyperborea short story collection:

The sand of the desert of Yondo is not as the sand of other deserts; for Yondo lies nearest of all to the world’s rim; and strange winds, blowing from a gulf no astronomer may hope to fathom, have sown its ruinous fields with the gray dust of corroding planets, the black ashes of extinguished suns. The dark, orblike mountains which rise from its wrinkled and pitted plains are not all its own, for some are fallen asteroids half-buried in that abysmal sand. Things have crept in from nether space, whose incursion is forbid by the gods of all proper and well-ordered lands; but there are no such gods in Yondo, where live the hoary genii of stars abolished, and decrepit demons left homeless by the destruction of antiquated hells.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 27, 2022 09:17 AM (U+Oxn)

41 Yay, another map lover!

A book by Robert Ludlum, for example, sends me scurrying for the atlas. And I have been known to use coins to reenact ambushes and other action scenes.

While coursing through the Perry Mason docket -- boy, Gardner came up with some strange first names -- I also read the sidebar piece about Ace.

That put me in mind of a book I read years ago, "Anonymous Lawyer" by Jeremy Blachman. The story is told through blog posts and emails. As events proceed, the events related through the blog gradually divert from reality, as told through the emails.

It's an interesting experiment, derived from an actual blog.

My research shows that Blachman has written only one other book, and that was with another author. Maybe he had only one book in him.

I'll do the survey later.

Posted by: Weak Geek at March 27, 2022 09:18 AM (Om/di)

42 Pournelle/Niven, natch.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 27, 2022 09:18 AM (Dc2NZ)

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Don't get me wrong - it's a good book and I enjoyed it, but it really could be cut by half and still be as entertaining.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 27, 2022 09:13 AM (2JVJo)

Hello!

And maybe we're heading back to the long, long, sagas so popular in the 70s?

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 09:18 AM (ONvIw)

44 The other point about the Ghostbusters series which I realized last night: Like the Man From U.N.C.L.E. long before it, it features at its core Extraordinary People Doing Ordinary Things, and Ordinary People Doing Extraordinary Things.

Maybe this is part of why it, and MFU, and Trek and many other story universes, are so beloved?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 09:18 AM (c6xtn)

45 I'll take the survey, but my 2 favorite duos are the Ellery Queen cousins (Fredric Dannay and Manfred B. Lee) and Larry Niven & Jerry Pournelle.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 09:21 AM (c6xtn)

46 Comment: I'm a huge fan of maps. Even a poorly drawn map can add so much context to a story. This Hallowed Ground is a history of the Civil War. Maps are tremendously useful in charting the battlefields and seeing who is charging where. Heck, if I'm reading a book that takes place in the real world, I'll fire up Google Maps just to get a sense of the location in which the action is taking place. Don't underestimate how much value a good map can add to a story, real or imagined!"

I've always felt that maps vastly improved my understanding of things; and if you ever get a chance to walk a battlefield, it's even better. I walked the Chickamauga battlefield (North Ga.) with my father once, which was where the Federal army was saved from total rout on day 2 by a sudden stand and counterattack organized by Gen'l Thomas. When you walk the battlefield, you see right off that the spot where that happened is a natural rock fortress, and all the avenues leading to it from the CSA's positions are natural killing zones. The course of the battle becomes obvious from the geography.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 27, 2022 09:21 AM (evAgx)

47 I don't know that I have any books by a duo except for a few by Victoria Mather (words) and Sue Macartney-Snape (art). They are collections from the Daily Telegraph's "Social Stereotypes" column, and limn such characters as "The Christmas Guest," "The Girls' Lunch," "The Divorce Lawyer" and so on.

Amazon reviews are generally hateful for the series, since Mather is considered to be 'racist.' Why? She dared to call out Prince Harry's sidepiece for the social-climbing trailer trash that she is.

https://tinyurl.com/2n68txy2

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 27, 2022 09:21 AM (2JVJo)

48 Loved loved loved "The Hollow Places" by T. Kingfisher. Fun read. Did somebody recommend it on the Book Thread?

A gal running her uncle's museum of oddities, along with her friend from the adjoining coffee shop, discover another world accessible through a hole punched in the drywall on the second floor. This interdimensional terminal is the crappiest Narnia ever. Remember the Wood Between the Worlds? This is a swamp dotted by small islands, some of which have doors to other dimensions. Dreary and soul-sucking when it isn't absolutely terrifying. They find artifacts from other worlds very similar yet slightly different from our own. Is the membrane separating our world from these other alternates permeable?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 27, 2022 09:22 AM (Dc2NZ)

49 I'm going to get Nothing to Drag Home today, haven't read a Vietnam book in awhile

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2022 09:22 AM (2JoB8)

50 40 Clark Ashton Smith definitely had a way with words. One of my favorite opening lines, from the Hyperborea short story collection:

The sand of the desert of Yondo is not as the sand of other deserts; for Yondo lies nearest of all to the world's rim; and strange winds, blowing from a gulf no astronomer may hope to fathom, have sown its ruinous fields with the gray dust of corroding planets, the black ashes of extinguished suns. The dark, orblike mountains which rise from its wrinkled and pitted plains are not all its own, for some are fallen asteroids half-buried in that abysmal sand. Things have crept in from nether space, whose incursion is forbid by the gods of all proper and well-ordered lands; but there are no such gods in Yondo, where live the hoary genii of stars abolished, and decrepit demons left homeless by the destruction of antiquated hells.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 27, 2022 09:17 AM (U+Oxn)

Wow.

Posted by: m at March 27, 2022 09:23 AM (CRS/E)

51 I'd forgotten Henry Kuttner and C.L. Moore! Yes, their short story "Mimsy Were the Borogoves" is a classic, as is their longer story "Vintage Season." Kuttner was well-known by himself for puckish little short stories like "The Twonky," and Moore created one of the first high fantasy heroines, Jirel of Joiry.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 09:23 AM (c6xtn)

52 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 09:21 AM (c6xtn)
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Way to casually toss out those ampersands.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 27, 2022 09:24 AM (diwnv)

53 Other reading this week included going through a lot of crafting books to see which should be close to me and which should find their way back to the home library shelves. When I was carrying books from one place to the the other, I came across a collected prose book by Elinor Wylie, a poet with a scandalous history for her generation, and a sort of favorite of Kurt Cobain (news to me). I tried a couple of the works, but really couldn't connect. Then I read a short online bio of the woman, and really couldn't connect.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 09:24 AM (ONvIw)

54 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 09:23 AM (c6xtn)

Mimsy really is an amazing work.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 09:25 AM (ONvIw)

55 I'm going to get Nothing to Drag Home today, haven't read a Vietnam book in awhile
Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2022 09:22 AM (2JoB
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It's very much worth the read. Gary doesn't hold back at all on how he felt about what he went through. It's one of those stories that's difficult to read, but you feel the journey is very much worth it.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 27, 2022 09:25 AM (K5n5d)

56 I've been in a mood for poetry lately. In no particular order:

- "Rime of the Ancient Mariner" by Coleridge. I came across a large format hardcover of the poem with all the Dore etchings. Poem and etchings are wonderful. I probably spent more time on the art than the poem.

- "The Ballad of the White Horse" by GK Chesterton about Alfred the Great. I love the way he used the ballad format.

- The sea poems of John Masefield. ("And all I need is a tall ship and a star to steer her by.") I like the imagery and pacing of his verse.

Posted by: JTB at March 27, 2022 09:25 AM (7EjX1)

57 Poul Anderson and Gordon R. Dickson collaborated on a series of shorts about the alien race known as the Hoka: intelligent teddy bears who are ferociously imitative, like the people in the Trek episode "A Piece of the Action." And they love to copy human cultures and customs. The first story, "The Sheriff of Canyon Gulch," is one of the funniest pieces in literary history.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 09:27 AM (c6xtn)

58 An interesting read for the times is Imperium by Kapuscinski. A book in three parts, the last being forgettable, it is a wonderful sketch of the Russian mind through the eyes of a Polish journalist (of sorts).

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at March 27, 2022 09:28 AM (oWBc3)

59 . . . decrepit demons left homeless by the destruction of antiquated hells.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 27, 2022


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Demon hobos . . .

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 09:28 AM (c6xtn)

60 That Clark Ashton Smith sure is a wordy fellow.

Let's edit it down for him.

The sand of the desert of Yondo is not as the sand of other deserts; for Yondo lies the castle of my faddor....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 27, 2022 09:29 AM (7bRMQ)

61 "Rime of the Ancient Mariner" by Coleridge.

Water water everywhere
and all the boards did shrink

Water water everywhere
nor any drop to drink

Posted by: JT at March 27, 2022 09:30 AM (arJlL)

62 And maybe we're heading back to the long, long, sagas so popular in the 70s?

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 09:18 AM (ONvIw)

The Michener format.

Posted by: BignJames at March 27, 2022 09:31 AM (AwYPR)

63 One other thing in Race Marxism, he squarely lables Marxism as Dennis Prager did long ago and then so I do, that it is a Religion, based on belief.

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2022 09:31 AM (2JoB8)

64 Kuttner was well-known by himself for puckish little short stories like "The Twonky," and Moore created one of the first high fantasy heroines, Jirel of Joiry.

Yes, and her space horror hero Northwest Smith. I suspect that part of what made their collaborations so effective was that combination of puckishness and darkness.

One of my favorite “Kuttner” (scare quotes because there is a suspicion that they even used their own names as pseudonyms at times) novels is The Mask of Circe. It’s a sort of bright horror fantasy, very much a mirror image of Moore’s dark fantasy horror.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 27, 2022 09:31 AM (U+Oxn)

65 Favorite writing duos:

-- The Ellery Queen cousins

-- Richard Sapir and Warren Murphy, authors of The Destroyer paperback series of the '70s and '80s

-- Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning, who produced two great comics series: Resurrection Man and Guardians of the Galaxy. They didn't create GotG, but without their work, there would have been no movies.

Posted by: Weak Geek at March 27, 2022 09:32 AM (Om/di)

66 Demon hobos . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 09:28 AM (c6xtn)

I saw the Demon Hobos open for GWAR at Madison Square Garden in 1992.

More coffee.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 27, 2022 09:32 AM (R/m4+)

67 It's important to risk the sanity of fragile people....

it helps them grow.

//Person reading soggy Exorcist

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 09:32 AM (Lzpvj)

68 The Michener format.
Posted by: BignJames at March 27, 2022 09:31 AM (AwYPR

Does anyone still read Michener or RF Delderfield, who wrote that massive family saga starting with God is an Englishman?

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 09:33 AM (ONvIw)

69 I'm going to get Nothing to Drag Home today, haven't read a Vietnam book in awhile
Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2022 09:22 AM (2JoB


Vietnam doesn't interest me at all, but for years I've been meaning to read A.J. Langguth's Our Vietnam: The War, 1954-1975. Langguth wrote Patriots: The Men Who Started the American Revolution, which I've always enjoyed and is a good book for any teenager who is interested in the Revolution.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 27, 2022 09:33 AM (2JVJo)

70 Edith Somerville and Violet Florence Martin, writing under the name Martin Ross. Wrote the Irish RM and sequels, and others.

The Irish RM is about an ex-English officer dropped into south west Cork to be the local judge. From his perspective, the locals are jovial lunatics. Hilarity ensues. Made into a BBC production

Posted by: Ignoramus at March 27, 2022 09:34 AM (i0slg)

71 I've been reading the poems mentioned above aloud, at least in my head. It helps bring out the power of the pacing, rhyme and alliteration. And, to me, it makes the imagery more vivid.

That got me thinking. Was "The Canterbury Tales" written to be listened to more than read? I assume literacy at the time was low and believe it was focused on French and Latin, not vernacular. And it predates Gutenburg's press, so manuscripts would have to be printed by hand. Like Homer, was it meant to be recited?

Posted by: JTB at March 27, 2022 09:35 AM (7EjX1)

72 "Rime of the Ancient Mariner" by Coleridge.

Posted by: JT at March 27, 2022 09:30 AM (arJlL)
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When we discussed it in my high school English class, the verdict was that it was better to be the guy who shot the albatross than everyone else, who paid for his mistake.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 09:36 AM (llXky)

73
63 One other thing in Race Marxism, he squarely lables Marxism as Dennis Prager did long ago and then so I do, that it is a Religion, based on belief.
Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2022 09:31 AM (2JoB

Of course it is, and liberal politics is usually a substitute for God. The gender crap proves this incredibly well. It's a belief in a total fallacy, that can be proven as a fallacy.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 09:37 AM (ONvIw)

74 And now, just doing a quick ebay trawl, I see that my novel The Director's Cut is being offered for $64. I suppose I should buy it, just to gather it up.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 27, 2022 09:37 AM (2JVJo)

75 I finished The Devil All the Time by Donald Ray Pollock, recommended on a Book Thread just before I started bookmarking them for easy retrieval on this wonderful browser unfriendly software. The story, taking place in Southern Ohio, was chock fulla lowlifes and particularly cockhound preachers and almost completely lacking in standup characters with a shred of humanity. Except for Arvin, the son of a veteran who loses his shit during his wife's lingering death from cancer. Arvin keeps the book from descending into dysfunction illustrated and is why Pollock reminds me more of writers like Harry Crews and Ron Rash than absolute trash like whatever idiot wrote Geek Love. I'll probably read an earlier work, Knockemstiff, a collection of interrelated short stories, which really works well in this subgenre, at least to me. So thanks for whoever talked this up.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at March 27, 2022 09:38 AM (y7DUB)

76 The only non-research reading I'm getting done is Lorenzo Scupoli's The Spiritual Combat, and even there I don't get to it every day.

Crazy week of intense drama and things breaking around the house. Writing was moving at a remarkable clip and then got crowded out. I'm hoping that I can get back up to speed and finish March with 40,000 words. I'm winding down the Taiping Rebellion and I've got a good idea of how my analysis is going to come together, which is nice.

I've got to start working on the maps, though.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 09:40 AM (llXky)

77 74 And now, just doing a quick ebay trawl, I see that my novel The Director's Cut is being offered for $64. I suppose I should buy it, just to gather it up.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 27, 2022 09:37 AM (2JVJo)

So a First Edition MP4 is appreciating in value? Cool.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 09:41 AM (ONvIw)

78 L'autista dell'Bookmobile è uno coglione di pollo.

Posted by: Italian Cartman at March 27, 2022 09:41 AM (Zhwz2)

79 That got me thinking. Was "The Canterbury Tales" written to be listened to more than read? I assume literacy at the time was low and believe it was focused on French and Latin, not vernacular. And it predates Gutenburg's press, so manuscripts would have to be printed by hand. Like Homer, was it meant to be recited?

Posted by: JTB at March 27, 2022 09:35 AM (7EjX1)
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Reading books aloud use to be "a thing" so yes, absolutely. In fact, Mark Twain famously would do public readings of his work.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 09:42 AM (llXky)

80 73 Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 09:37 AM (ONvIw)

Marxism is to religion like a corkscrew is to a screw driver.

The mechanical motions are the same but the utilities very different.

The destructive reductionism, coupled with the child like magic thinking, garnished with the genocidal bent is a worthy opponent no matter one's stage of life.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 09:43 AM (Lzpvj)

81 Thanks again, MPPPP for the Alexander and the Magic Mouse book. Younger grandson read it himself last week and told his friends about the story.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 09:43 AM (ONvIw)

82 Favorite writing duos:

- Preston and Child who do the Pendergast series.
- Aimee and David Thurlo, a husband and wife team who write mysteries in the southwest areas and Navajo reservations.
- The cousins who wrote the Ellery Queen mysteries.

Posted by: JTB at March 27, 2022 09:43 AM (7EjX1)

83 L'autista dell'Bookmobile è uno coglione di pollo.

Posted by: Italian Cartman at March 27, 2022 09:41 AM (Zhwz2)

The bookmobile sounds like a chicken?

Posted by: BignJames at March 27, 2022 09:44 AM (AwYPR)

84 L'autista dell'Bookmobile è uno coglione di pollo.
Posted by: Italian Cartman at March 27, 2022


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So, by the "If Only It Were English" method:

"The autistic Bookmobile is one knowledgeable chicken."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 09:44 AM (c6xtn)

85 Clark Ashton Smith definitely had a way with words. One of my favorite opening lines, from the Hyperborea short story collection:

[ . . . ]

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at March 27, 2022 09:17 AM (U+Oxn)


I can only take so much, I become exhausted by Ashton-Smith's descriptive prose: every noun is grotesquely modified by an adjective.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 27, 2022 09:44 AM (xhaym)

86 If we can expand this to movies, let's not forget Dan Aykroyd and Harold Ramis.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 09:45 AM (c6xtn)

87 I've been reading the poems mentioned above aloud, at least in my head. It helps bring out the power of the pacing, rhyme and alliteration. And, to me, it makes the imagery more vivid.
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JTB, thank you for the reminder.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 27, 2022 09:45 AM (MIKMs)

88 I've tried the navigation stuff on my smartphone, maybe I need a bigger screen, but I dislike it.

It always seems glitchy, and is either too "big" to see any detail or zeroed in so far I can't see what's what. Really smokes the battery/processor too. Too, I'm just looking for a certain road or turnoff. The standard Maps app has eleventy gazillion bells and whistles and flashing icon buttons where to shop and Nails By Jen outlets and where freeze dried Arugula is on sale.

Yeah, maps are great. Paper maps, as backup, at minimum. Are road maps even available any longer?

Posted by: Common Tater at March 27, 2022 09:45 AM (kFEbY)

89 https://youtu.be/UKnLLi6V2Ic

Twilight Zone-Radio Show four hours

On the literary front I have been perusing "The Death of Albert Johnson-The Mad Trapper of Rat River."

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 09:45 AM (Lzpvj)

90 And now, just doing a quick ebay trawl, I see that my novel The Director's Cut is being offered for $64. I suppose I should buy it, just to gather it up.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

Does it come with a fifty and a ten ?

Posted by: JT at March 27, 2022 09:46 AM (arJlL)

91 Mark Twain famously would do public readings of his work.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022


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As did Dickens, who if he had not been an author could easily have been an actor.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 09:46 AM (c6xtn)

92 Reading books aloud use to be "a thing" so yes, absolutely. In fact, Mark Twain famously would do public readings of his work.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 09:42 AM (llXky)


It was the custom to read aloud, even if you were the only one with the book (or scroll or whatever). Silent reading did not become a custom until the Renaissance, I believe.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 27, 2022 09:46 AM (2JVJo)

93 Thanks again, MPPPP for the Alexander and the Magic Mouse book. Younger grandson read it himself last week and told his friends about the story.
Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 09:43 AM (ONvIw)


You're very welcome! If I ever win the lottery, I want to live in a house just like that.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 27, 2022 09:47 AM (2JVJo)

94 The book thread got me hooked on Joan Didion. As a very slow reader, I am presently, "Slouching Toward Bethlehem." Didion was a liberal like Steinbeck was a liberal, educated and articulate. Sadly, it was the old left who were the weakest intellectual link, through which commies and other degenerates broke in to our society.

Posted by: Marooned at March 27, 2022 09:47 AM (w6hJ9)

95 If you could use a break from the news of the day, I recommend The Night Sheriff by Phil Foglio (of the long running web comic Girl Genius).
A thousand year old monster from the Caucuses is trapped by a Geas protecting a California amusement park that looks suspiciously like Disneyland.

Posted by: MarkReardon at March 27, 2022 09:47 AM (+msSX)

96 Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 09:43 AM (Lzpvj

Be that as it may, Marxism, and its variants, is now a deeply held and often unquestioned belief for many instead of a utopian philosophy that can be discarded after the semester is over.

I understood this in great horror when I saw the expression "Sociology = theology" up on a screen at services.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 09:48 AM (ONvIw)

97 Booken Morgen Horden

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 27, 2022 09:48 AM (lCui1)

98 92 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 27, 2022 09:46 AM (2JVJo)

It was almost considered a duty if I understand things-when literacy was low percentage the illiterate would ask a person to read for them.

A sign of great trust, actually.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 09:48 AM (Lzpvj)

99 An interesting read for the times is Imperium by Kapuscinski. A book in three parts, the last being forgettable, it is a wonderful sketch of the Russian mind through the eyes of a Polish journalist (of sorts).
Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at March 27, 2022 09:28 AM (oWBc3)


I really enjoyed that book because it gave the reader insight to just how fucking big the Soviet empire was. Kapuscinski took a lot of shit from other writers for making stuff up and not being the standup person he pretended to be. Whether or not that's true, he's still a good writer and not to be confused with lying trash like Walter Duranty.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at March 27, 2022 09:48 AM (y7DUB)

100 The bookmobile sounds like a chicken?
Posted by: BignJames at March 27, 2022 09:44 AM (AwYPR)

The Bookmobile driver is a chicken fucker. Joke from an old South Park about a chicken fucking bookmobile driver. Nevermind. It was dumb.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 27, 2022 09:49 AM (Zhwz2)

101 Hiya Vmom Morgan !

Posted by: JT at March 27, 2022 09:49 AM (arJlL)

102 Snow here. Good day to sit inside and read.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 27, 2022 09:49 AM (Dc2NZ)

103 96 Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 09:48 AM (ONvIw)

The killer is calling from inside the cathedral.

Sorry, the future victims can't say they were not warned.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 09:49 AM (Lzpvj)

104 Are road maps even available any longer?
Posted by: Common Tater at March 27, 2022


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I stopped off in a Books-a-Million in the Birmingham suburbs, looking for a paper map. They had one thing that was huge -- but it didn't include the area we were staying in. On the other hand, the local free paper in Homewood, AL, included a very nice map of the town and the Interstate getting to it. I still have it in the car.

Cracker Barrel used to hand out a brochure with a list of all the locations in the US. I keep one in the car. They don't offer it any more.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 09:49 AM (c6xtn)

105 I think reading aloud has always been a thing...Older than dirt, really.

In the modern times, we continue the tradition with audiobooks as well as the stories we read aloud to our children and grandchildren.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 27, 2022 09:50 AM (K5n5d)

106 An unkown writing duo would be Manning Coles, which was Cyril Henry Coles and Adelaide Francis Oke Manning, who wrote the Tommy Hambledon spy novels together.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 27, 2022 09:51 AM (xhaym)

107
The Bookmobile driver is a chicken fucker. Joke from an old South Park about a chicken fucking bookmobile driver. Nevermind. It was dumb.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 27, 2022


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From ghostbusters: Afterlife:

"What do a cigarette and a hamster have in common?"

"Both are totally harmless until you stick one in your mouth and light it."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 09:51 AM (c6xtn)

108 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 27, 2022 09:49 AM (Zhwz2)

Hindenflickler!

Posted by: BignJames at March 27, 2022 09:51 AM (AwYPR)

109 104 Cracker Barrel used to hand out a brochure with a list of all the locations in the US. I keep one in the car. They don't offer it any more.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 09:49 AM (c6xtn)

So did Waffle House!

Posted by: m at March 27, 2022 09:51 AM (CRS/E)

110 I read Hell in a Very Small Place about Dien Bien Phu as a young lad probably around 8th grade

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2022 09:51 AM (2JoB8)

111 Marxism is to religion like a corkscrew is to a screw driver.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 09:43 AM (Lzpvj)
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It didn't start out as a religion, but that's where it is today. There was a period where the shortcomings of industrial capitalism and the disruption it created to traditional society made it worthwhile to look at alternatives.

The problem was that "scientific socialism" clearly didn't work in any form. At that point, the debate over it ended and the religious aspect has since become more pronounced.

I'm old enough to remember the debates about Marxism being tied to concrete results: life expectancy, calorie consumption, GDP growth, etc. Now none of that matters. Apologists for Marxism now use entirely emotional language to make their case.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 09:52 AM (llXky)

112 This morning I started to read a new crime/thriller I recently purchased. The instant I started reading I realized I've already read the book and have it somewhere among my pile of books. But I didn't recognize either the title or the cover. Darn.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, the Phillips screwdriver of the gods at March 27, 2022 09:52 AM (eGTCV)

113 As I was reading the Masefield poems, I learned something of his life. His parents died when he was young and he was raised by an aunt. He always loved to read and spent hours at it. His aunt (clearly a dipshit in my opinion) thought this was inappropriate for a boy and signed him on to a sailing ship. What she didn't know is that shipboard life gave Masefield plenty of time to read and he started to write. Some years later he was made Poet Laureate of Britain and held the position until 1967. Only Tennyson served longer in that position. One of the great examples of karma.

Posted by: JTB at March 27, 2022 09:52 AM (7EjX1)

114 99 Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at March 27, 2022 09:48 AM (y7DUB)

No no if you hold up any mirror to Marxism you must be the height if moral perfection yourself, bear outside should have told you.

//Fellow Travelers Insurance Company

The funny thing is the darlings will swear to you to this day they are not communist curious and are the ones cheerleading the hardest against Russia now.

Consequently we are left to suppose they just suddenly woke up.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 09:52 AM (Lzpvj)

115 Are road maps even available any longer?
Posted by: Common Tater at March 27, 2022 09:45 AM (kFEbY)


Triple A unless Covid hysteria has fucked that too.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at March 27, 2022 09:53 AM (y7DUB)

116 Anyone have any suggestions on how to get a 'politics-is-downstream-from-culture' screenplay into the hands of non-leftist filmmakers?

Or better, anyone have a few tens of million to make a great hyper-violent sci-fi action adventure with comedic elements?

Posted by: motionview, a National Divorcee at March 27, 2022 09:53 AM (kyWWM)

117 I read Hell in a Very Small Place about Dien Bien Phu as a young lad probably around 8th grade
Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2022 09:51 AM (2JoB

The French Mistake.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 27, 2022 09:53 AM (Zhwz2)

118
The killer is calling from inside the cathedral.

Sorry, the future victims can't say they were not warned.
Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 09:49 AM (Lzpvj)

Certainly drove me away, but a religion that doesn't expect personal morality is very attractive to many. The morality is for society to force and accomplish.

The reading list at that place is truly hideous.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 09:53 AM (ONvIw)

119 So did Waffle House!

Posted by: m at March 27, 2022 09:51 AM (CRS/E)

Every interstate exit?

Posted by: BignJames at March 27, 2022 09:53 AM (AwYPR)

120 An unkown writing duo would be Manning Coles, which was Cyril Henry Coles and Adelaide Francis Oke Manning, who wrote the Tommy Hambledon spy novels together.
Posted by: Kindltot at March 27, 2022


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Tommy was an ancestor to James Bond. In one of his original Man From U.N.C.L.E. novels, David McDaniel mentions Ulsenite, the green flash explosive in one of the Hambledon stories. And it's possible Hambledon himself is in that story, The Rainbow Affair, which is filled with cameos by famous British adventure fiction characters.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 09:54 AM (c6xtn)

121 As a general rule, I do not like 'academic' and/or 'literary' fiction. However, for those who enjoy those types, I think Jane Smiley and John Barth are worth a look-see.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 27, 2022 09:54 AM (MIKMs)

122 This morning I started to read a new crime/thriller I recently purchased. The instant I started reading I realized I've already read the book and have it somewhere among my pile of books. But I didn't recognize either the title or the cover. Darn.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, the Phillips screwdriver of the gods at March 27, 2022 09:52 AM (eGTCV)
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I hate it when that happens...For me it was The Anubis Gates by Tim Powers. I wondered why it was so familiar...I eventually realized I had purchased it a long time ago...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 27, 2022 09:55 AM (K5n5d)

123 Pournelle/Niven, natch.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 27, 2022 09:18 AM (Dc2NZ



You and Wolfus beat me to it.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at March 27, 2022 09:55 AM (ZSK0i)

124 111 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 09:52 AM (llXky)

If you view it like a chemistry problem you have to reduce a movement to its base molecules to be able to understand it.

Modern "marxism" reduced to its core is a justification to murder the striving.

the LBGTABCXYZQWERTY is about having carnal choices forced to be celebrated or the silent being destroyed economically

CRT flavored marxism is ethnic genocide.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 09:55 AM (Lzpvj)

125 Be that as it may, Marxism, and its variants, is now a deeply held and often unquestioned belief for many instead of a utopian philosophy that can be discarded after the semester is over.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 09:48 AM (ONvIw)
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Yes. The old argument about having to break eggs to make the omlet is not even being trotted out. We have to break eggs because it's a moral imperative to do so. To hell with your racist omlet!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 09:55 AM (llXky)

126 I'm old enough to remember the debates about Marxism being tied to concrete results: life expectancy, calorie consumption, GDP growth, etc. Now none of that matters. Apologists for Marxism now use entirely emotional language to make their case.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 09:52 AM (llXky)

It's become a moral salvation thing.

A few people have mentioned Viet Nam today. When you were in Case Hall, was Fishel (hating him more than reading him) still a thing? Or was the war far too over by then?

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 09:56 AM (ONvIw)

127 Jane Smiley's "The Greenlanders" is a very good, if depressing, read.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 27, 2022 09:56 AM (Dc2NZ)

128 Marxism was a working class phenomenon. Now it has been embraced by the wealthy, powerful elite to working class people. Even in China the CCP doesn't even pretend to offer social welfare to the impoverished masses.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 27, 2022 09:57 AM (EZebt)

129 *to oppress working class people

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 27, 2022 09:58 AM (EZebt)

130 Posted by: mustbequantum at March 27, 2022 09:54 AM (MIKMs)

I don't mind fiction about writers, but I do mind some of the "historical fiction", which I think gets in the way of real history.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 09:59 AM (ONvIw)

131 If you view it like a chemistry problem you have to reduce a movement to its base molecules to be able to understand it.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 09:55 AM (Lzpvj)
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There you go trying to use rational thought again. The followers of Marxism have no concern at all for the results. They have no idea what comes next, they live only for the accolades of the moment.

The proof of this is the realization by white feminists that the trans people are going to take away all their soccer scholarships and taunt them while doing it.

Same with the white liberal moms who can't understand why their kids who used tutors and gamed the system are going to be kept out of college because of equity. Those bad things were not supposed to happen to the righteous and saved people.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 09:59 AM (llXky)

132 Yes. The old argument about having to break eggs to make the omlet is not even being trotted out. We have to break eggs because it's a moral imperative to do so. To hell with your racist omlet!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 09:55 AM (llXky)

True, and it's hard being the eggs who need breaking.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 09:59 AM (ONvIw)

133 Masefield, "The Builders," being bookish:

And in that peak the builder kept his treasure,
Books with the symbols of his art

https://tinyurl.com/4ay5h3ej
It's a very calming poem to read, I think.

Posted by: m at March 27, 2022 10:00 AM (CRS/E)

134 The old school liberal debate was whether the Soviets had better culture.

Symphony. Ballet. Space program. My Muskie voting liberal perfesser auntie would drag us kids to nice restaurants and museums and art galleries and plays at the Goodman theater and expose us to all kinds of art and culture.

That stuff has been relegated to the dustbin of history. I predict much gnashing of teeth when the public tax dollar supported symphonies go bye-bye, as they inevitably must.

Their has been some squawking about getting more melanin involved, probably in anticipation of that. Lily white leftists playing lily white dead guy music from 400 years ago.

That'll never do. I only wish my dear departed auntie were around to see this. I would love to hear her take on the lysenko latte lunatics.

Posted by: Common Tater at March 27, 2022 10:00 AM (PNCUr)

135 Given we are all bibliophiles I am hesitant to go on too long a tear on the matter but it is near impossible to overstate the culpability of the publishing houses in the crisis that is coming.

An important corrective governor has been removed from the western engine-the shrieking SJW hordes have grown so strident they can have dissenting voices expelled from campuses, denied publication, and kept from social media and in every case the former guardians of dissent make a big show of "hesitantly" complying with the people they helped program.

"Camp of the Saints" was not a how to manual any more than 1984 was.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 10:00 AM (Lzpvj)

136 Anyone have any suggestions on how to get a 'politics-is-downstream-from-culture' screenplay into the hands of non-leftist filmmakers?

Or better, anyone have a few tens of million to make a great hyper-violent sci-fi action adventure with comedic elements?
Posted by: motionview, a National Divorcee at March 27, 2022 09:53 AM (kyWWM)
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You could try contacting someone at the Daily Wire. I think they have made three movies right now (I haven't seen any of them).

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe22! at March 27, 2022 10:00 AM (wyw4S)

137 I don't mind fiction about writers, but I do mind some of the "historical fiction", which I think gets in the way of real history.
Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 09:59 AM (ONvIw)


Like Gore Vidal?

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at March 27, 2022 10:00 AM (y7DUB)

138 *Stumbles in*

*Scratches balls*

Morning.

*Goes to make coffee*

Posted by: Robert at March 27, 2022 10:01 AM (1Yy3c)

139 I finished "The Emperor's Tomb" by Joseph Roth, which begins in the last days of the Austro-Hungarian Empire and ends with the Anschluss. To Roth and his characters, the old Empire was not perfect, but more far more humane than the terrifying ideologies which succeeded them after WWI. I'm looking forward to reading some of Roth's journalism from the 20's and 30's. He was a very well known correspondent then and was the first journalist in Europe to warn about Nazism (in 1922).

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at March 27, 2022 10:01 AM (HabA/)

140 Anyone interested in reading about the war in Vietnam, specifically POWs, should read The Hanoi Commitment by Capt. Jim Mulligan. A U.S. Naval Aviator who spent 7 years in captivity at the Hanoi Hilton. Very bigly excellent.

Posted by: Weasel at March 27, 2022 10:01 AM (0IeYL)

141 marxism today - just like modern "environmentalism", and the entire gender whatever movement - is just a Death Cult. That is the only true purpose it has left, and it's the only true goal that those who follow it seek.

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 27, 2022 10:02 AM (evAgx)

142 Hiya Donna of the Ampersands !

Posted by: JT at March 27, 2022 10:02 AM (arJlL)

143 A few people have mentioned Viet Nam today. When you were in Case Hall, was Fishel (hating him more than reading him) still a thing? Or was the war far too over by then?

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 09:56 AM (ONvIw)
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Not a thing. The hotness was the end of the Cold War. Everyone in International Relations was giddy (except the Kremlinologists, who were scrambling to find relevance).

Then Yugoslavia collapsed and we had a European war to talk about.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 10:02 AM (llXky)

144 Pournelle/Niven, natch.
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Bear/Benford and later Brin. I think they did one novel as a trio. (the Killer Bees?)

For mine own contribution to good working collaborations, it would be Pratchett/Gaiman.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 27, 2022 10:02 AM (MIKMs)

145 Same with the white liberal moms who can't understand why their kids who used tutors and gamed the system are going to be kept out of college because of equity. Those bad things were not supposed to happen to the righteous and saved people.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 09:59 AM (llXky)

I think using tutors and helping kids advance is a total good. I did it myself and make no apologies. Schools in NJ are becoming very leveling, and make fewer attempts to bring the academically interested to a higher level.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 10:02 AM (ONvIw)

146 The debate was whether their system was better. Better, for more people.

The free enterprise system. Private property. The whole nine yards.

None of the basics are even discussed, because it's just a bunch of screaming vapid bitches who think history started last week. And they are the Professors teaching History.

WASTF'd

Posted by: Common Tater at March 27, 2022 10:03 AM (PNCUr)

147 Kuttner & Moore, Ellery Queen, Pohl & Kornbluth, Niven & Pournelle. Sure. Absolutely. But I'd throw in Bill Pronzini & Barry Malzberg too -- several novels and a bunch of short stories, and if you've not read it before take a look at THE RUNNING OF BEASTS, which is a nifty thriller.

Posted by: Just Some Guy at March 27, 2022 10:03 AM (JzDjf)

148 I just received my author copy of an anthology that I contributed a story for - Tales Around The Supper Table - Vol 2, a collection of tales by Texas authors!
https://tinyurl.com/ycxc8u3p
First chance I had to read the other contributions - and a very enjoyable collection they are, too. J.L. Curtis put it all together late last year.
I am still simmering at the one reviewer who knocked off a point because my short adventure "ripped off Kipling". It's an homage, you dope - an experiment to see how well the plot of "The Man Who Would Be King" could be translated to the American southwest. Jeeze, do I have to explain everything?

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at March 27, 2022 10:03 AM (xnmPy)

149 I have a Harper's Intro Geography book from 1896.
Interesting to see the maps of the time. Also includes some not-so-correct depictions of "The Five Races of Men."

Posted by: Dr. Varno at March 27, 2022 10:03 AM (vuisn)

150 Survey worked for me.

Posted by: Weak Geek at March 27, 2022 10:03 AM (Om/di)

151 I'm currently reading Octoberland by A.A. Attanansio. It's the third and final volume in his Dominions of Irth series. It has some of the most original world-building I've ever seen. The premise is that there are different layers of worlds that differ in their proximity to the "Abiding Star", which is actually the Big Bang (I think). Our world, Earth, is part of the Dark Shore, which is a long ways away from the Abiding Star (around 14 billion light years). Irth, on the other hand, is very near to the Abiding Star and everyone uses Charm (magic) as part of their natural world. All of the conflict is between those who would subvert Charm and use it for destructive, evil purposes (e.g., eternal life fueled by the blood of mortals) and those who just want to get on with their lives...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 27, 2022 10:03 AM (K5n5d)

152 Lily white leftists playing lily white dead guy music from 400 years ago.

Posted by: Common Tater at March 27, 2022 10:00 AM (PNCUr)

"Credential mongering NPR listeners"

ht: TuCa

Posted by: BignJames at March 27, 2022 10:03 AM (AwYPR)

153 Not a thing. The hotness was the end of the Cold War. Everyone in International Relations was giddy (except the Kremlinologists, who were scrambling to find relevance).

Then Yugoslavia collapsed and we had a European war to talk about.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 10:02 AM (llXky

Interesting, as he was a big deal for the entire university in the 70s. He was the JMC person they loved to hate, but needed to know.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 10:04 AM (ONvIw)

154 "The Ballad of the White Horse" by GK Chesterton about Alfred the Great. I love the way he used the ballad format.

Welp. I just bought the kindle version of Ballad.

One, cuz I like GKC.

Two, for a stupid reason. I've been watching "The Last Kingdom" which features Alfred the Great. And the actor did such a good job portraying a king IMHO that I got curious about Alfred.

Any of you Historically Oriented Morons know of a good book about Alfred the Great?

Posted by: naturalfake at March 27, 2022 10:05 AM (5NkmN)

155 Survey worked for me.
Posted by: Weak Geek at March 27, 2022 10:03 AM (Om/di)
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Yep! I see some responses! I look forward to compiling/analyzing the data! (We are on Spring Break next week, which is pretty quiet time for us at work, so I should have some free time to dive into this!)

Thanks for contributing!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 27, 2022 10:05 AM (K5n5d)

156 Exorcist was a fantastic book.

The movie, which is one of my all time favorites, follows the book nearly exactly. The book, however, does leave Regan's possession as an open ended question and delves into the psychology stuff more.

It's also a shit ton more graphic.

Great book.

Posted by: Robert at March 27, 2022 10:05 AM (1Yy3c)

157 I don't mind fiction about writers, but I do mind some of the "historical fiction", which I think gets in the way of real history.
Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 09:59 AM (ONvIw)

It's especially annoying when the authors project "woke" thinking back onto historical figures.All it shows is unimaginativeness on the part of the writer, who can't conceive that people really did think differently then. I've come across fiction set in the Middle Ages with clerics who actually think like 12th century Richard Dawkins, ie. "all religion is bad and unscientific" and "humans would be better without a belief in God."

Nobody thought like that then. Nobody.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at March 27, 2022 10:06 AM (HabA/)

158 Then Yugoslavia collapsed and we had a European war to talk about.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 10:02 AM (llXky)


Oh c'mon; between Slick leading NATO and the UN fuckups, what could go wrong?

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at March 27, 2022 10:06 AM (y7DUB)

159 Anyone interested in reading about the war in Vietnam, specifically POWs, should read The Hanoi Commitment by Capt. Jim Mulligan. A U.S. Naval Aviator who spent 7 years in captivity at the Hanoi Hilton. Very bigly excellent.

Posted by: Weasel at March 27, 2022 10:01 AM (0IeYL)
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Before the burning times, our base had a prayer breakfast in May and we'd usually get a speaker with a military background. For several years in a row the speaker was a former POW from Vietnam.

They were all extremely happy people. Saw joy in everything. It was uncanny. I remember thinking that while I admired their optimism and inner peace, I didn't want to spend months locked in dark box to get it.

The irony is that the box found me anyway, and I find I'm becoming just like them, always looking on the bright side of things.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 10:06 AM (llXky)

160 Hi, JT!

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at March 27, 2022 10:07 AM (HabA/)

161 lysenko latte lunatics.
Posted by: Common Tater at March 27, 2022 10:00 AM (PNCUr)
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Stolen.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 27, 2022 10:07 AM (MIKMs)

162 Nobody thought like that then. Nobody.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at March 27, 2022 10:06 AM (HabA/)
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Totally agree.

I will say, however, that there are some older historical fiction books for children (we employed many in our homeschool) that are a great way to get kids interested in history. It's one thing to read the facts, it's quite another to read a story about kids your age and what their life was like at that time.

But I wouldn't trust much written recently, except for Rush Limbaugh's Rush Revere books.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe22! at March 27, 2022 10:09 AM (wyw4S)

163 By all means. I just crufted it together on the fly right then. Maybe "Lunatic latte lysenkoists" is mo' bettah?

A mind is a terrible thing!

Posted by: Common Tater at March 27, 2022 10:09 AM (PNCUr)

164 Any of you Historically Oriented Morons know of a good book about Alfred the Great?
Posted by: naturalfake at March 27, 2022 10:05 AM (5NkmN)


Not specifically about Alfred, but an excellent book covering the period is Marc Morris' The Anglo-Saxons: A History of the Beginnings of England, 400-1066. I enjoyed it immensely.

https://tinyurl.com/yuzhsexs

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 27, 2022 10:09 AM (2JVJo)

165 I think using tutors and helping kids advance is a total good. I did it myself and make no apologies. Schools in NJ are becoming very leveling, and make fewer attempts to bring the academically interested to a higher level.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 10:02 AM (ONvIw)
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As we've discussed, the issue is that these kids start assuming they are inherently better than anyone else, which provides fertile ground for the Marxist faith.

None of the upper classes can even spell noblesse oblige, let alone define it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 10:09 AM (llXky)

166 31 Love the map of Pooh Corner and environs:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Acre_Wood
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 27, 2022 09:14 AM (Dc2NZ)
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Love that too. But the entry is misspelled. The map itself is correct, "Aker".

Posted by: Eeyore at March 27, 2022 10:10 AM (R0Tis)

167 Marx is Satan.

Posted by: klaftern at March 27, 2022 10:10 AM (taPSh)

168 @95 --

Thanks for the tip!

I saw the Foglios promoting that on the GG website. It surprised me -- I thought the comic took all of their available time.

Love Girl Genius.

Posted by: Weak Geek at March 27, 2022 10:10 AM (Om/di)

169 Nobody thought like that then. Nobody.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at March 27, 2022 10:06 AM (HabA/)


Exactly, but there is a need to create a few people who did in order to further demonize, rather than study, the past. There seems to be a need to embellish the past, and making a class of prescient, but ignored, people helps that endeavor.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 10:11 AM (ONvIw)

170 I don't mind fiction about writers, but I do mind some of the "historical fiction", which I think gets in the way of real history.
Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 09:59 AM (ONvIw)
Like Gore Vidal?
Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at March 27, 2022 10:00 AM (y7DUB)
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Or Robert Graves?

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 27, 2022 10:12 AM (MIKMs)

171 Perfessor, I've done the survey. Very neat, and thank you for taking the time to set it up.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 10:12 AM (c6xtn)

172 Readings by authors were a feature of every leading comics/SF convention I attended.

Posted by: Weak Geek at March 27, 2022 10:12 AM (Om/di)

173 Interesting, as he was a big deal for the entire university in the 70s. He was the JMC person they loved to hate, but needed to know.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 10:04 AM (ONvIw)
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I don't remember him, that's for sure. And I lived in Case Hall for all four years.

Why would a kid who lived in East Lansing need to live in the dorms? Good question! Let me tell you about my mother...

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 10:13 AM (llXky)

174
That got me thinking. Was "The Canterbury Tales" written to be listened to more than read? I assume literacy at the time was low and believe it was focused on French and Latin, not vernacular. [ . . . ] Like Homer, was it meant to be recited?
Posted by: JTB at March 27, 2022 09:35 AM (7EjX1)


This is a big question, if literacy rates were low in Europe and supposedly all learning was held in the churches, who were all those vulgar language books written for? Also, someone had to keep the books and accounts, which at that time were written as narrations, not as double entry bookkeeping, and secondly without a demand for written books the presses would have never taken off the way they did.

I think Chaucer and the other authors wrote the way they did because of the style of literature at that time, and Canterbury specifically was written as a series of fireside tales tied together with an overplot of pilgrims' tales
Genre is very conservative, and straying outside of it loses the reader. Since narrative is traditionally spoken, then the style is to mimic that for the least struggle for the reader. Too much innovation loses the audience.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 27, 2022 10:13 AM (xhaym)

175 I have a neighbor who is a big fan of Louise Penny, she keeps threatening to drop off a bunch of her books including the most recent joint effort with Hillary Clinton. I have no desire to read this! It has probably been mentioned here before but the website bookseriesinorder is very useful if you like to start at the beginning of a series. John Dunning has written five books featuring detective Cliff Janeway, I enjoyed these stories about antique books and booksellers. Perfessor, You keep bringing it every week, nice job young man!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at March 27, 2022 10:14 AM (a4EWo)

176 I've been watching the YouTube videos by and about Malcolm Guite, a priest in the Church of England, A scholar and lecturer at several universities, a poet and musician. (He is also a pipe smoker, which counts with me.) In his approach, philosophy and knowledge he is the closest thing I've found to CS Lewis. A fun and fascinating person. Part of his appeal is the emphasis he puts on the value of the imagination in art and everyday life. This builds on Tolkien's concept of 'subcreation' as a gift from God (made in His image), its use as a form of worship, and how it provides the means to appreciate God's creation. He looks like a combination of Captain Kangaroo and a hippy but his interests and insights are wonderful.

His references and readings in the videos are a treasure trove for me although he is causing me to further expand my need for book shelf space.

Posted by: JTB at March 27, 2022 10:14 AM (7EjX1)

177 Oh c'mon; between Slick leading NATO and the UN fuckups, what could go wrong?

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at March 27, 2022 10:06 AM (y7DUB)
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The window replacement industry got a big boost, so there was that!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 10:14 AM (llXky)

178 OK, folks, if I don't shut down, I'll never get that last bit of writing done. Hope you all have a lovely day.

See you next Sunday.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 27, 2022 10:14 AM (2JVJo)

179
Apparently the store I used to buy maps in is still in business. It's called 'Franklin Maps' and is located in King of Prussia, PA. It is unbelievable the number and types of maps they print and sell. If you like maps you could easily spend hours there.

Posted by: Divide by Zero at March 27, 2022 10:16 AM (dQvv7)

180 ---
As we've discussed, the issue is that these kids start assuming they are inherently better than anyone else, which provides fertile ground for the Marxist faith.

None of the upper classes can even spell noblesse oblige, let alone define it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 10:09 AM (llXky)

I'm not so sure. Of course, kid1 is 40 and times are changing, but neither of the kids had a Marxist leaning at any time. This I think was an advantage of supplementing their education.

As for noblesse oblige, I'm afraid I don't see too many Silents or Boomers practicing this. On the contrary, "La noblesse donne droit" would be a better motto for our elites of any age.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 10:16 AM (ONvIw)

181 178 OK, folks, if I don't shut down, I'll never get that last bit of writing done. Hope you all have a lovely day.

See you next Sunday.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 27, 2022 10:14 AM (2JVJo

Enjoy!

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 10:16 AM (ONvIw)

182 Greetings:

The well awaited for recommendation of my reading week:

"The Comanche Empire" by Pekka Hamalainen .Only one chapter into it but already impressed by this Booker (not Cory) Award winner. I had previously read the author's "Lakota America" which I also can recommend. He writes readably well and his content makes me wonder why he is not more well known.

I particularly enjoyed his "Introduction" which includes his description of the current trends in Amerindian historiography which seems to me to be bumping up against the Progressive brilliance of these Progressive days. He doesn't see the Comanche as just Euro-victims but fully developed human beings trying to make their way in our world, sometimes even at the expense of their ethnic similars.

Therein he also mentioned "A Brave and Cunning Prince" about the Powhatan "empire" in the Chesapeake which I have read and may have previously recommended on this well-panted blog.

The two Johns (Wayne and Ford) weren't as far off the mark as our current rulers would have us believe.

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Posted by: 11B40 at March 27, 2022 10:17 AM (uuklp)

183 92 Reading books aloud use to be "a thing" so yes, absolutely. In fact, Mark Twain famously would do public readings of his work.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 09:42 AM (llXky)

It was the custom to read aloud, even if you were the only one with the book (or scroll or whatever). Silent reading did not become a custom until the Renaissance, I believe.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 27, 2022 09:46 AM (2JVJo)
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Actually, it started earlier than that. St Ambrose is the first known to read silently, and St Augustine clearly regards it as amazing.
But that's over a millennium before the Renaissance.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 27, 2022 10:17 AM (R0Tis)

184 I've been watching the YouTube videos by and about Malcolm Guite, a priest in the Church of England

Posted by: JTB at March 27, 2022 10:14 AM (7EjX1)
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The current issue of First Things has an article by formerly Anglican Bishop Michael Nazir-Ali on why he became Catholic. It's a very good read.

Actually, First Things is always a good read. Thinking back, my recreational book reading always stops when a new issue arrives.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 10:18 AM (llXky)

185 Writing is often a solitary profession

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I greatly enjoyed Dean Koontz' nonfiction book about his dog, A Big Little Life ( https://amzn.to/3iICoyN ) (in fact, I liked it so much I bought copies for my mother and my two sisters). But he let it slip. He publishes so much I was convinced that he entered into a pact with Satan. But no; he described how he works which is basically he does like a job with regular hours and hard work. How disappointing!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 27, 2022 10:18 AM (FVME7)

186 ---
I don't remember him, that's for sure. And I lived in Case Hall for all four years.

Why would a kid who lived in East Lansing need to live in the dorms? Good question! Let me tell you about my mother...
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 10:13 AM (llXky)

LOL. I knew a lot of local s who lived in the dorms.

When you're bored someday, look up Prof Fishel. He was pretty influential and lived a colorful life. He was a jerk, to be sure, but an interesting one, and his sons who went to MSU also lived in the dorms.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 10:20 AM (ONvIw)

187 It was the custom to read aloud, even if you were the only one with the book (or scroll or whatever). Silent reading did not become a custom until the Renaissance, I believe.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 27, 2022 09:46 AM (2JVJo)

Sometimes I'll read a psalm aloud. I don't do it often but I find it increases the impact of the Psalm.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, the Phillips screwdriver of the gods at March 27, 2022 10:21 AM (eGTCV)

188 MP4: I read your Theda Bara short Thirteen Moons. I really liked it. Left a very positive review on Good Reads, hope that helps sell one or two more copies for you. Then novel is still on the TBR stack but I'm looking forward to it.

Finished The Red Badge of Courage. What a great book. I read it in High School and College but it didn't make the impact then that it did this time through. Thought I was going to finish Papillion yesterday but life intervened. Maybe today.

Posted by: who knew at March 27, 2022 10:21 AM (4I7VG)

189 Readings by authors were a feature of every leading comics/SF convention I attended.

Posted by: Weak Geek at March 27, 2022 10:12 AM (Om/di)
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One of the plot elements of Brideshead Revisited was illustrated by Father Brown books being read aloud by Lady Marchmain after dinner: "The twitch upon the thread."

Since Waugh was striving for realism, this likely was a common (though perhaps fading at that point) practice.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 10:22 AM (llXky)

190 Speaking of writing I have some to do. Y'all be cool.

Posted by: Weasel at March 27, 2022 10:23 AM (0IeYL)

191 I ranted about maps a few weeks ago. In particular, in McCullough's 1776. Contemporary maps are great for their historical interest but the florid penmanship and lack of color makes them less useful for actual geographic understanding.

Posted by: Oddbob at March 27, 2022 10:23 AM (nfrXX)

192 When you're bored someday, look up Prof Fishel. He was pretty influential and lived a colorful life. He was a jerk, to be sure, but an interesting one, and his sons who went to MSU also lived in the dorms.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 10:20 AM (ONvIw)
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They're enforcing the long-dormant policy of making sophomores live in the dorms starting next fall. First time in decades.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 10:24 AM (llXky)

193 Bought a bu h of Saul bellow novels at a tag sale. Herzog is starting slow. Are these worth reading?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at March 27, 2022 10:24 AM (haFpQ)

194 I don't mind fiction about writers, but I do mind some of the "historical fiction", which I think gets in the way of real history.
Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 09:59 AM (ONvIw)
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There are two historical fiction writers I love, Robert Graves and Patrick O'Brian. (The former for Belisarius as much as Claudius.)
That said, there are plenty who do get in the way of real history, but as many who do so under the title of "history". Gibbon and Macauley are among the worst offenders of old, and we all know Mr Zinn.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 27, 2022 10:25 AM (R0Tis)

195 I don't mind fiction about writers, but I do mind some of the "historical fiction", which I think gets in the way of real history.
Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 09:59 AM (ONvIw)
Like Gore Vidal?
Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at March 27, 2022 10:00 AM (y7DUB)


Ackshewallee, the best historical and most entertaining novels I've read was-
"Creation" by Gore Vidal
Not surprisingly, this, too, is one from Burgess' "99 Novels".

It concerns a Persian who wanders thru the ancient world meeting famous religious and philosophical personages of the era. Vidal said he wanted to write a novel where Socrates, Buddha, and Confucius all appear, so they do along with Sophocles and others.
His vaguely spooky portrait of the Buddha is very memorable and seems like that's how Buddha may have been in real life.

Anyway, great read, fun novel. Not sure how accurate the portrayals are, but well worth your time.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 27, 2022 10:25 AM (5NkmN)

196 Are road maps even available any longer?
Posted by: Common Tater at March 27, 2022 09:45 AM (kFEbY)


DeLorme gazetteers are some of the best state maps ever, the Oregon one even shows private roads that the farmers lock to keep you off their fields. The only more tight ones for Oregon are the county maps put out by Metzgers, they have all the logging roads.
they are as good and more useful than using google maps satellite view

DeLorme has apparently been bought by Garmin, but the gazetteers are available on Amazon

Posted by: Kindltot at March 27, 2022 10:25 AM (xhaym)

197 Off to grocery and gas station. Back later, all!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 10:26 AM (c6xtn)

198 184 ... "Actually, First Things is always a good read. Thinking back, my recreational book reading always stops when a new issue arrives."

AH,
Never heard of that magazine. I will check it out. Sounds interesting.

Posted by: JTB at March 27, 2022 10:26 AM (7EjX1)

199 Maybe once I quit the current job I will finally get around to "Lucy Suarez the Totally Not Composite Chance Gardener Politician."

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 10:27 AM (Lzpvj)

200 The other book I finished this week was Robert Jordan's The Fires of Heaven, book 5 in the Wheel of Time series. It was better than I remembered. The ending didn't quite bother me as much as it used to, now that I know where the story is going. I'll be starting book 6, Lord of Chaos in April.

After that, I go into "the slog" territory (Books 7 - 11).

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 27, 2022 10:28 AM (K5n5d)

201 Bought a bu h of Saul bellow novels at a tag sale. Herzog is starting slow. Are these worth reading?
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at March 27, 2022 10:24 AM (haFpQ)


"Herzog" is okay.

"Humboldt's Gift" is his best IMO.

"Henderson the Rain King" is pretty good as well.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 27, 2022 10:28 AM (5NkmN)

202 Finished Race Marxism- review I wrote ( really trying to get better at this so opinions are welcome)
This book was a big help putting together many events happening today. Identity Marxism and its close relationship with Intersectionaly is trying to sweep into government and even more importantly schools from kindergarten to graduate universities. Very happy I read this, though have had a long opinion Marxism is a Religion this strengthens that.

And immediately got Nothing to Drag Home

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2022 10:28 AM (2JoB8)

203 Wasn't part of the reason people read out loud because sentences were written in a run-on style without spaces or punctuation?

Posted by: Robert at March 27, 2022 10:29 AM (1Yy3c)

204 When you're bored someday, look up Prof Fishel. He was pretty influential and lived a colorful life. He was a jerk, to be sure, but an interesting one, and his sons who went to MSU also lived in the dorms.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 10:20 AM (ONvIw)
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He died in 1977, which is why I never heard of him.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 10:29 AM (llXky)

205 Guess what I found out!
You can borrow books from the Internet Archive!
https://archive.org/
I haven't tried yet, because you need a (free) account, but it's exciting.
I found out because I was looking for the next book in the SPQR mysteries, and the library I was borrowing ebooks at only has up to book 4. So I looked on WorldCat - another great site https://www.worldcat.org/
et voila, internet archive popped up

Be careful though, apparently internet archive has all sorts of books and movies, including p**n

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 27, 2022 10:29 AM (lCui1)

206 An Oldie but a goodie:

Lindybeige's Downfall video - Hitler wants historical accuracy in movies

https://youtu.be/TDY8T83P2Y4?t=1

Posted by: Kindltot at March 27, 2022 10:30 AM (xhaym)

207 On maps especially in military narratives they are a big help, I often while reading even go to Google maps to see today what is the perspective of ground being discussed.

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2022 10:31 AM (2JoB8)

208 They're enforcing the long-dormant policy of making sophomores live in the dorms starting next fall. First time in decades.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 10:24 AM (llXky)

Someone who used to own a now gone used book store, gave me a copy of Fishel's book Viet Nam: Anatomy of a Conflict" I noticed it last week, but have never read it.

When he died the student paper led with "The son of a bitch, is dead"

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 10:31 AM (ONvIw)

209 Amen about being able to walk battlefields. I'm not adept at interpreting written descriptions of troop formations and movements, but actually being there helps even militarily illiterate me visualize what happened. I'm thinking of Cowpens in particular because of its narrowness and elevation change. Gettysburg is overwhelming when you see the size of it and, again, elevation.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at March 27, 2022 10:32 AM (fTtFy)

210 AH,
Never heard of that magazine. I will check it out. Sounds interesting.

Posted by: JTB at March 27, 2022 10:26 AM (7EjX1)
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Its focus is religion and philosophy and the writing is outstanding. It is very similar to National Review when WFB was still running the show. One of my friends used to be an NR subscriber and he would bring over his magazines when he was done.

Now our relationship is reversed - I loan him my First Things when I finish with it. It is rare for me not to read every article in the issue.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 10:33 AM (llXky)

211 They're enforcing the long-dormant policy of making sophomores live in the dorms starting next fall. First time in decades.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 10:24 AM (llXky)

But he was the one JMC prof who really was an advisor to the President, and Diem as well.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 10:33 AM (ONvIw)

212 Ackshewallee, the best historical and most entertaining novels I've read was-
"Creation" by Gore Vidal
Not surprisingly, this, too, is one from Burgess' "99 Novels".

It concerns a Persian who wanders thru the ancient world meeting famous religious and philosophical personages of the era. Vidal said he wanted to write a novel where Socrates, Buddha, and Confucius all appear, so they do along with Sophocles and others.
His vaguely spooky portrait of the Buddha is very memorable and seems like that's how Buddha may have been in real life.

Anyway, great read, fun novel. Not sure how accurate the portrayals are, but well worth your time.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 27, 2022 10:25 AM (5NkmN)


Hmmmm. The ones that were roundly trashed were his rewrites of US history so you and Burgess are probably right.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at March 27, 2022 10:34 AM (y7DUB)

213 When he died the student paper led with "The son of a bitch, is dead"

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 10:31 AM (ONvIw)
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Yeah, by the time I was there, the number of people who remembered him had dwindled considerably.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 10:34 AM (llXky)

214 Wolfus, you're going to buy gas today?

Better take a book along ...

Posted by: Weak Geek at March 27, 2022 10:35 AM (Om/di)

215 Anyone else ever read anything by Elinor Wylie? Another forgotten author?

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 10:35 AM (ONvIw)

216 Will be walking with the ghosts in Vicksburg, Wednesday. Spent so much time there, don't need a map these days.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at March 27, 2022 10:36 AM (oWBc3)

217 Any of you Historically Oriented Morons know of a good book about Alfred the Great?
Posted by: naturalfake at March 27, 2022 10:05 AM (5NkmN)

Not specifically about Alfred, but an excellent book covering the period is Marc Morris' The Anglo-Saxons: A History of the Beginnings of England, 400-1066. I enjoyed it immensely.

https://tinyurl.com/yuzhsexs
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 27, 2022 10:09 AM (2JVJo)


Thx MPPP!

Bought.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 27, 2022 10:37 AM (5NkmN)

218 I just bought "Steampunk Fantasy Adventures: 5 Full-Length Novels of Brass and Bravado" as an Amazon ebook. It says it is 5 steampunk adventures, but I suspect it i0s really 5 romance novels in a steampunk-ish setting. Well, even if it is, the ebook was free, so I can't complain about being ripped off too badly.

Before that, I also picked up ebooks of "Tide of Empires: Decisive Naval Campaigns in the Rise of the West 1481-1654: Volume I" and "The Golden Age of Piracy: A Captivating Guide." Now I just need to act like a normal adult and read these books instead of my comic book omnibuses.

Posted by: Castle Guy at March 27, 2022 10:38 AM (Lhaco)

219 I posted this at the tail end of last week's book thread. I think I was literally the last poster. Anyway...

Paul French writes non-fiction that READS like fiction. He has claimed Shanghai between the wars as his own-- much like Twain with the Mississippi and Dickens with mid-Victorian London.

I recently finished "Destination Shanghai." He wrote a bestseller: "Midnight in Peking" also.

Shanghai between the wars was one fascinating Gone With the Wind type of place. Everybody living on the volcano's edge. At that time, Shanghai was the fourth largest city in the world, and VERY modern-- neon & traffic jams; people from every country on the planet, just about; night clubs & gangsters who could give Chicago a run for its money.

Posted by: mnw at March 27, 2022 10:38 AM (NLIak)

220 "Herzog" was among the books in Honors English that I didn't read. I was getting involved in comics then.

There's a reason my college GPA plummeted.

College was where I decided that I liked fiction but not literature.

Posted by: Weak Geek at March 27, 2022 10:39 AM (Om/di)

221 Will be walking with the ghosts in Vicksburg, Wednesday. Spent so much time there, don't need a map these days.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at March 27, 2022 10:36 AM (oWBc3)
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One of my favorite places is the Straits of Mackinac. It's not hard to look out on the waters and imagine the voyageurs paddling in with cargoes of furs. Those who read Vampires of Michigan will understand why I included it.

My wife and kids are somewhat bored with visiting it, but I miss it when I'm not there at least once a year.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 10:39 AM (llXky)

222 Here is the author of Vietnam: Anatomy of a Conflict. While I'm not surprised that JMC buried him, to do so is to revise their own history.

https://tinyurl.com/52ezkd4d

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 10:39 AM (ONvIw)

223 212 Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at March 27, 2022 10:34 AM (y7DUB)

Gore Vidal made a living tickling leftist's wishes and soiling history.

A paid vandal.

His "Lincoln" had some of the weirdest, least sourced, and atrocious analysis of historical figures I have read and I have read a lot.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 10:40 AM (Lzpvj)

224 My wife and kids are somewhat bored with visiting it, but I miss it when I'm not there at least once a year.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 10:39 AM (llXky)

We touched on the Straits a bit during an evening discussion about lighthouses.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 10:42 AM (ONvIw)

225 https://tinyurl.com/3vd7xs7a

Alfred the Great: The Man Who Made England. Hardcover

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 10:43 AM (Lzpvj)

226 The Michener format.

^^^Have not read Michener in years but I really loved the book on Hawaii as excellent background for understanding the history before my first trip there.

Posted by: Iris at March 27, 2022 10:43 AM (6lKe4)

227 One thing about visiting battlefields: You have to imagine how much smaller the trees were then.

I realized this at the Tippecanoe park.

Posted by: Weak Geek at March 27, 2022 10:43 AM (Om/di)

228 If anyone is looking for some spiritual reading for Lent, I have a few suggestions.

I'm reading Introduction to the Devout Life, by St. Francis de Sales. Obviously written a long time ago (he died in 1622) so a bit flowery in style, but he has some nice observations. I have the Ignatius Press Kindle version which is only 99 cents.

Also reading A Time of Renewal: Daily Reflections for the Lenten Season by Mother Mary Francis, P. C. C. who was an abbess of several Poor Clare monasteries. This was published in 2015 and is a series of short daily reflections for Lent, very enjoyable.

As always, I will recommend anything by Fulton Sheen, but a good one for Lent, especially for Holy Week, is The Seven Last Words.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe 2022! at March 27, 2022 10:44 AM (wyw4S)

229 Good Morning. Thanks Prefessor Squirrel for turning me onto the Iain Pears series. The Raphael Affair is a lovely little story.

Posted by: sidney at March 27, 2022 10:45 AM (7/kmB)

230 DeLorme gazetteers are some of the best state maps ever, the Oregon one even shows private roads that the farmers lock to keep you off their fields. The only more tight ones for Oregon are the county maps put out by Metzgers, they have all the logging roads.
they are as good and more useful than using google maps satellite view

DeLorme has apparently been bought by Garmin, but the gazetteers are available on Amazon
Posted by: Kindltot at March 27, 2022 10:25 AM (xhaym)


Yep, DeLorme's still on Amazon.

Another mapmaker I liked a lot was/is Benchmark Maps. I will say I liked their older versions better, however. On their NM map, for example, they went from 1:525,000 to 1:285,000. Paradoxically, the higher resolution makes it more difficult for me to follow the map.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at March 27, 2022 10:47 AM (ZSK0i)

231 Their has been some squawking about getting more melanin involved, probably in anticipation of that. Lily white leftists playing lily white dead guy music from 400 years ago.

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Some years ago, I read Temperament: How Music Became a Battleground for the Great Minds of Western Civilization by Stuart Isacoff. (Temperament is the fine tuning of the notes in the scale and there are several different methods each with their advantages and disadvantages although today today almoseverybody uses equal temperament in which all half step are created equal, even the black keys.) Apparently, I didn't read the first edition because there was an appendix in which the author attempted to defend himself for not including POC music but rather wrote about honkey/cracker music systems which was, you know, what the book was about. When I saw that I was shocked and thought this will get out of control and we will be lucky to live through it.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 27, 2022 10:47 AM (FVME7)

232 Good morning fellow book enthusiasts.
Finished the third book in the Mistborn series by Brandon Sanderson. The series is very good but doesn't rise to the literary heights of the Stormlight Archive. I have however already reserved the next book in the series which takes place 300 years after.
I discovered this week via an email from Iris, that Sanderson has started a kickstarter campaign which involves 4 new books that he has written. He set out to raise a million dollars and so far has raised over 30 million!
To be continued....

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 27, 2022 10:48 AM (Y+l9t)

233 Good Morning. Thanks Prefessor Squirrel for turning me onto the Iain Pears series. The Raphael Affair is a lovely little story.
Posted by: sidney at March 27, 2022 10:45 AM (7/kmB)
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I appreciate your comment, but I'm just passing on the recommendations....That one came from Blacksheep.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 27, 2022 10:48 AM (K5n5d)

234 Writing duos: they don't collaborate that often, but I was quite entertained by Sorcery and Cecelia, by Patricia Wrede and Caroline Stevermer. It is an "epistolary" novel - each writer took on the persona of a character and they write letters to the other.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 27, 2022 10:49 AM (lCui1)

235 He set out to raise a million dollars and so far has raised over 30 million!
To be continued....
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 27, 2022 10:48 AM (Y+l9t)
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I gotta get me one of them there Kickstarter campaigns.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe 2022! at March 27, 2022 10:49 AM (wyw4S)

236 I'm halfway through an audiobook of The Fort by Bernard Cornwell. It's about a minor Revolutionary War battle in Maine. Characters and descriptions are great but the battle is dragging on for days. I think Paul Revere is going to do something dumb.

Posted by: Linnet at March 27, 2022 10:49 AM (lfZGX)

237 Hi JT!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 27, 2022 10:49 AM (lCui1)

238
Dual authors - Niven and Pournelle; they just did great stories together.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 27, 2022 10:49 AM (IRAJo)

239 236 Posted by: Linnet at March 27, 2022 10:49 AM (lfZGX)

He was cleared by formal court-martial.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 10:51 AM (Lzpvj)

240 He wrote a bestseller: "Midnight in Peking" also.

Posted by: mnw at March 27, 2022 10:38 AM (NLIak)
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I've made a note of it. It'll be in my next purchase batch. I'm trying to liven up the military history side with some bits of color.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 10:52 AM (llXky)

241 Been these last few years recreated battles with my miniature armies, ground doesn't change a whole lot but woods are the biggest obstacles that do. Go back a couple centuries and rivers can.

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2022 10:52 AM (2JoB8)

242 Sanderson continued:
I watched the YouTube he made introducing the campaign. I have never been a "fan girl". I love reading and have favorite authors but never really followed anyone. We'll, I am in the minority with Sanderson. He has YouTube's and a newsletter and thousands and thousands of rabid fans. What I discovered is there is a reason his books are so lengthy. He loves to talk. He is a total nerd. But an incredibly entertaining one.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 27, 2022 10:53 AM (Y+l9t)

243 Thank you for another awesome book thread.

Regarding maps at AAA - I was at our local office a couple of weeks ago when a man came in looking for maps. They no longer have print copies. They're now all online "so that they can be kept up to date." So disappointing.

Last week I read Jeffrey Archer's Over My Dead Body. I enjoyed the characters and the story - so much so that I could not put it down and binge read it all in one day.

Any recommendations for books that will stealthily introducing conservative values to the grandkids? We recently took a trip to a very woke bookstore and I worry about what they may be reading and how it's shaping their minds. I don't want to make it too obvious or it won't have the effect I'm hoping for.

Posted by: KatieFloyd at March 27, 2022 10:53 AM (ob77J)

244 Been these last few years recreated battles with my miniature armies, ground doesn't change a whole lot but woods are the biggest obstacles that do. Go back a couple centuries and rivers can.
Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2022 10:52 AM (2JoB
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Skip, would you consider sending in a picture of your miniature armies to one of JJ's hobby threads? I would love to see them and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe 2022! at March 27, 2022 10:53 AM (wyw4S)

245
"Sorry, Perfessor, we need your credentials ..."

-- town councilmen in "The Music Man"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 27, 2022 10:53 AM (IRAJo)

246 Still doing research for my novel about a certain since-resigned mayor of a large Pacific Northwest city and how families fall apart. I thought I was nearly done but I started the great book clean-out and found another book to read. THEN I'm done. Then onto characters.

Someone pointed out to me that I have to have some degree of liking for the bad guy who is most definitely a monster. Not sure how I'm going to do that.

I bought "Nothing Left To Drag Home" and I will start that tonight.

Posted by: Tonestaple at March 27, 2022 10:54 AM (5aF+L)

247 But no; he described how he works which is basically he does like a job with regular hours and hard work. How disappointing!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 27, 2022 10:18 AM (FVME7

I attended a talk years ago by screenwriter Bo Goldman. He was asked by one of the many young writers in the audience how he found "inspiration." He said he didn't wait for it or look for it. However, the fact that words simply put down one day would often lead to more or better words the next day became a kind of quotidian inspiration.

Posted by: Ordinary American at March 27, 2022 10:54 AM (H8QX8)

248 Been these last few years recreated battles with my miniature armies, ground doesn't change a whole lot but woods are the biggest obstacles that do. Go back a couple centuries and rivers can.

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2022 10:52 AM (2JoB
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This is particularly true when looking at fortresses. The ground around them was devoid of trees. Hard to get a feel for the prospects/LOS in a lot of places.

They rebuilt Fort Meigs in Ohio, and it's pretty neat. It's also in the middle of a subdivision.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 10:54 AM (llXky)

249 Any recommendations for books that will stealthily introducing conservative values to the grandkids? We recently took a trip to a very woke bookstore and I worry about what they may be reading and how it's shaping their minds. I don't want to make it too obvious or it won't have the effect I'm hoping for.
Posted by: KatieFloyd at March 27, 2022 10:53 AM (ob77J)
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Hi Katie - what's the age range you're looking for? The Rush Revere books by Rush Limbaugh are a good place to start, but there are a lot of older books that are good too.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe 2022! at March 27, 2022 10:55 AM (wyw4S)

250 Dad had to read "Hawaii" for the continuing education class that included a trip there. He and Mom both went.

He really enjoyed the book. Probably the only book he had read in years. What little time he had to read was devoted to Successful Farming and Kansas Farm Journal magazines.

(Well, he did read one Executioner book to see why I liked that series so much.)

Posted by: Weak Geek at March 27, 2022 10:55 AM (Om/di)

251 Finished The Red Badge of Courage. What a great book. I read it in High School and College but it didn't make the impact then that it did this time through. Thought I was going to finish Papillion yesterday but life intervened. Maybe today.
Posted by: who knew

I wrote a book report on that back in high school. I included an assertion that book had a feel of soldiers and war throughout history. The teacher gave me a bad grade because it's clearly set in the Civil War.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 27, 2022 10:56 AM (FVME7)

252 Ahoy, bookfagz!

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 27, 2022 10:56 AM (II3Gr)

253 252 Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 27, 2022 10:56 AM (II3Gr)

Literacyqueerz sir...

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 10:59 AM (Lzpvj)

254 Hiya Insom !

Posted by: JT at March 27, 2022 11:00 AM (arJlL)

255 Perfessor, I like how you are making the book thread yours. It's a good thing. As is adding a Horde writer component, although I've never attempted more than the writing needed for a presentation. I've always imagined that some of my patient stories would work as fictionalized pieces, I never tried it.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 11:00 AM (ONvIw)

256 I'm a third into David Downing's "Wedding Station" set in Berlin 1933, it begins with the Reichstag fire, and the protagonist, a Brit WWI vet, has lived in Germany since not long after the war, married a German, they have a son, he's a crime reporter.

Downing is 75 and has been writing a long time. This book is quite anti-Nazi, or it seems that way to me. But can you be pro-Nazi, really?

Very interesting parallels to our present scene. The Nazi's staged the Reichstag fire and set it up with communist patsies, think Ray Epps urging the clueless Jan 6 dummies to go inside the capital.

In the aftermath, the Nazis and their brownshirt thugs and affiliate cops arrested many thousands of communists, detaining them with no due process, killing many, and after the election less than a week later, in which they gained control of the government, started stripping (and really quickly) most aspects of rule-of-law society.

Reporters and editors that did print pieces even hinting at criticism, were arrested. Many were badly beaten and released, others never got released. This, to beat the press into keeping in line with the propaganda.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at March 27, 2022 11:00 AM (KiBMU)

257 What I discovered is there is a reason his books are so lengthy. He loves to talk. He is a total nerd. But an incredibly entertaining one.
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One thing about Sanderson, his talent is undeniable.

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 27, 2022 11:00 AM (MIKMs)

258 Ahoy, bookfagz!

That reminds me.....

I don't think the pants guy owns a weedwhacker. (if you catch my drift)

Posted by: JT at March 27, 2022 11:01 AM (arJlL)

259 I don't think the pants guy owns a weedwhacker. (if you catch my drift)
Posted by: JT at March 27, 2022 11:01 AM (arJlL)

One of those "obligatory" comments that make the Horde, The Horde?

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 11:02 AM (ONvIw)

260 Who are some of your favorite writing duos?

Neil Gaiman and Terry Prachett

How do you come across your favorite books or series?

Artwork, lists, library. And now, just what's on gutenburg.

Now what? What's the next step in the writing process? How/when should you solicit reviewers to provide feedback?

1. Accept that fewer people read fiction currently, and that the market is lopsided by a gargantuan degree.
2. Join a writers group. Hopefully, it's a good one. Ask more questions than offer opinions. Ye shall knoweth the quality of the comments in the immediate.
3. Publishing is now only a function of pushing a button. Selling is a function of being a popular person in a community that buys books. No, that's not the simple answer everyone wants to read. But there it is. There's no magic formula. There's no 'One simple trick to sell'em all.' Don't know. Maybe go watch that Brian Sanderson video again.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 27, 2022 11:02 AM (p6Md5)

261 239 sven at March 27, 2022 10:51 AM (Lzpvj)
Seems like mistakes were made by Revere's fellow officers, too. I do like how Cornwell describes the battlefield clearly, and the strategies on both sides.

Posted by: Linnet at March 27, 2022 11:02 AM (lfZGX)

262 Two things that one can't fully understand no matter how well explained. Combat and having a kid.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at March 27, 2022 11:02 AM (/ijUi)

263 Perfessor, I like how you are making the book thread yours. It's a good thing. As is adding a Horde writer component, although I've never attempted more than the writing needed for a presentation. I've always imagined that some of my patient stories would work as fictionalized pieces, I never tried it.
Posted by: CN The First

Awww.....go ahead !

Posted by: JT at March 27, 2022 11:03 AM (arJlL)

264 Thanks Perfesser, for doing the Book Thread and making it your own !

Great Job !

Posted by: JT at March 27, 2022 11:04 AM (arJlL)

265 bluebell I post pictures of units often on hobby thread, actually want to do another battle but also a presentation of my Borodino ( War and Peace) army.
Here is one for now of it but needs updating
https://tinyurl.com/yt3dyy86
Close up of the #30 Position Battery 1812 Russians

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2022 11:04 AM (2JoB8)

266

Awww.....go ahead !
Posted by: JT at March 27, 2022 11:03 AM (arJlL)

I live in fear of being sued, or stalked and killed. I think it will remain a fun dream on an empty day.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 11:04 AM (ONvIw)

267 I've always imagined that some of my patient stories would work as fictionalized pieces, I never tried it.
Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 11:00 AM (ONvIw)
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Do any of those stories end with, "It was a million to one shot, Doc...A million to one!"? If so, go for it!

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 27, 2022 11:05 AM (K5n5d)

268 Steven Pressfield has written a few books about and for writers. His best titled one is Nobody Wants To Read Your Shit.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at March 27, 2022 11:06 AM (u5NuV)

269 Maps: I was reading A Peace To End All Peace by David From kin (you think you know how bad the Middle East was screwed up by the British following WWI, read this book). My 29 year old brain has turned to mush. Trying to keep the Middle East in perspective failed miserably, so I finally gave up a bought a really nice folding map of the world.

One of my college history professors required his classes to buy The Penguin History of the World Atlas. It is still available, but I didn't get one because I know I still have the little bastard around the house somewhere. If you haven't come across it, I recommend it. It's easier than flipping back to the front of the book maps.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- bitterly clinging to the deplorable life '70s style! at March 27, 2022 11:06 AM (vMM2s)

270 267. The ones I think about the most are the ones with the most deceit and tragedy, even when the tragedy takes years to come about.

But I am concerned about the feeling that I violated their trust, even if they're baddies.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 11:08 AM (ONvIw)

271 One thing about Sanderson, his talent is undeniable.
Posted by: mustbequantum

Absolutely and I did sign up on the kickstarter. He has some really interesting things to say about how the sausage is made and marketed in some of the Youtubes. He seems to really love his fans. Does frequent tours or did until Covid hit. That is what the kickstarter is about.
There is a piece where he answers questions and it is fascinating information about Amazon and why he decided to start his own company and indie writers and why we need brick and mortar bookstores.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 27, 2022 11:08 AM (Y+l9t)

272 265 silly me forgot to paste the #30
https://tinyurl.com/5x4nuvv2

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2022 11:08 AM (2JoB8)

273 I love maps and facts since I was a kid. I would read the new World Almanac every year up until I was 30. I need to start doing that again,

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at March 27, 2022 11:09 AM (u5NuV)

274 269. A Peace to End All Peace is a fascinating book.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 11:09 AM (ONvIw)

275 &&&&&

Check it out, Huck Follywood. Pixy fixed it so we all have ampersands now.

I think. We'll find out when I hit "Post".

Posted by: creeper at March 27, 2022 11:10 AM (cTCuP)

276 ---
Do any of those stories end with, "It was a million to one shot, Doc...A million to one!"? If so, go for it!
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 27, 2022 11:05 AM (K5n5d)

Yesterday, I think, I brought up how Joyce Carol Oates takes tragic real events and fictionalizes them. Is changing the names and places enough? Locally, she got heaped with abuse over Landfill.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 11:11 AM (ONvIw)

277 Actually Oates came up on Friday during Ace's thread that featured the Marilyn Monroe biopic.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 11:13 AM (ONvIw)

278 I once saw Siskel and Ebert discuss the ways the movies portray writers writing. Some punching a typewriter while knocking back whiskey. Some wander in the woods. Some angrily hammer the typewriter with machine gun staccato. Some sit quietly and with perfect poise compose masterpieces. It was pretty funny.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 27, 2022 11:15 AM (FVME7)

279 265 silly me forgot to paste the #30
https://tinyurl.com/5x4nuvv2
Posted by: Skip

Kewl !

You painted all of them ?

Posted by: JT at March 27, 2022 11:15 AM (arJlL)

280 243 Katie,
We found out about AAA going strictly digital just before that happened and loaded up on all the paper versions we might possibly need.

As to conservative value books for kids, check out the Rush Revere series by Rush Limbaugh. They are fun for adults and exemplify conservative views of American history without getting in the way of the kids' fun.

Posted by: JTB at March 27, 2022 11:15 AM (7EjX1)

281 Regarding visiting battlefields I'm sure I'm not the only one who's been to the Normandy beaches and adjoining cemetary.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at March 27, 2022 11:15 AM (y7DUB)

282 Yesterday, I think, I brought up how Joyce Carol Oates takes tragic real events and fictionalizes them. Is changing the names and places enough? Locally, she got heaped with abuse over Landfill.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 11:11 AM (ONvIw)

Make all your villains heterosexual white males. Nobody cares about defending them.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 27, 2022 11:16 AM (7bRMQ)

283 278 I once saw Siskel and Ebert discuss the ways the movies portray writers writing. Some punching a typewriter while knocking back whiskey. Some wander in the woods. Some angrily hammer the typewriter with machine gun staccato. Some sit quietly and with perfect poise compose masterpieces. It was pretty funny.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 27, 2022 11:15 AM (FVME7)

Did they include the movie Julia, which considers Hellman and Hammett?

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 11:16 AM (ONvIw)

284 135 Given we are all bibliophiles
Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 10:00 AM (Lzpvj)

Who is not a bibliophile? Who are they; who would those people be?

Posted by: m at March 27, 2022 11:17 AM (/xkVv)

285 Finished Monster Hunter International, a real page turner.
I'm going to check the local library and see if they have more of the series.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 27, 2022 11:17 AM (R0vP5)

286 All work and no play make Jack a dull boy

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2022 11:17 AM (2JoB8)

287 Make all your villains heterosexual white males. Nobody cares about defending them.
Posted by:
(7bRMQ)OrangeEnt at March 27, 2022 11:16 AM (7bRMQ)

Well that's certainly convenient.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 11:18 AM (ONvIw)

288 "It was a million to one shot, Doc...A million to one!"

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Movie trivia. What two movies feature Civil War or earlier smooth bore cannon destroying attacking aircraft?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 27, 2022 11:18 AM (FVME7)

289 Who is not a bibliophile? Who are they; who would those people be?
Posted by: m

Men without weedwhackers !

Posted by: JT at March 27, 2022 11:18 AM (arJlL)

290 Hi Bluebell - The Rush Revere books are great but I need something a little less obvious. I suspect that my daughter and son-in-law have drunk a lot of the liberal kool-aide and any Rush Revere type books would be met with resistance. I'm trying to be a little bit sneaky. The older girl is 10 and a voracious reader, though favoring graphic novels. The younger is 5 and not especially interested in books yet but I'm hoping to get her hooked too.

Posted by: KatieFloyd at March 27, 2022 11:19 AM (ob77J)

291 Movie trivia. What two movies feature Civil War or earlier smooth bore cannon destroying attacking aircraft?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet

The Frank Sinatra one and the one with Gregory Peck .

Posted by: JT at March 27, 2022 11:20 AM (arJlL)

292 288 Sahara is one. Looking for a Confederate ironclad in the desert.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 27, 2022 11:20 AM (lz5hY)

293 Did they include the movie Julia, which considers Hellman and Hammett?
Posted by: CN The First

I don't remember the specific movies (other than John Belushi in Continental Divide) but they may well have.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 27, 2022 11:20 AM (FVME7)

294 I for one am saddened and micro-aggressed by the use of stylish, hip and really groovy pants as something to be made fun of.
Sigh...and the fit back then too.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 27, 2022 11:21 AM (axyOa)

295 Sahara is one. Looking for a Confederate ironclad in the desert.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door

That's a bingo.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 27, 2022 11:21 AM (FVME7)

296 KatieFloyd these last couple Christmas been getting my grand-neice book series, bought Rush Revere 2 years ago but last bought Narnia series, have never read those but are supposedly good wholesome books for kids.

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2022 11:22 AM (2JoB8)

297 On military maps to Google Earth last year read a account of the entire Africa WWII campaign, looking at real satellite pictures the Brigade defense boxes for the British / allies are still very much seen.

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2022 11:25 AM (2JoB8)

298 Check it out, Huck Follywood. Pixy fixed it so we all have ampersands now."

As it should be.

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at March 27, 2022 11:25 AM (HabA/)

299 (you think you know how bad the Middle East was screwed up by the British following WWI, read this book)

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Well, white males and somewhat heterosexual.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 27, 2022 11:25 AM (FVME7)

300 Fruttero and Lucentini, by far the best for-handed writers. But I don't know if they were ever transalted in English.

Posted by: Anacleto Mitraglia at March 27, 2022 11:27 AM (kyAsh)

301 JBT - I'm starting to reconsider the Rush Revere books. I could have a couple of them just happen to be lying around my house when the grandkids visit. Older granddaughter can't seem to keep her hands off any book she sees. Hmmmm.... I see a plan developing....

Posted by: KatieFloyd at March 27, 2022 11:27 AM (ob77J)

302 261 Posted by: Linnet at March 27, 2022 11:02 AM (lfZGX)

Battles are fight between order and chaos on both sides....the winner is the person who fails the least.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 11:27 AM (Lzpvj)

303 I had a short story that forced itself out through my brain. If anyone would like to look it over, link in nic.
Thanks perfesser for the book thread!
I read crime and punishment for the first time a few weeks ago before we went supposed to like ruskie lit anymore. What am amazing book. I cried at the end. Can't believe I was 29 before I read it!

Posted by: Sugar Plum Fairy #etc at March 27, 2022 11:28 AM (velLz)

304 KatieFloyd these last couple Christmas been getting my grand-neice book series, bought Rush Revere 2 years ago but last bought Narnia series, have never read those but are supposedly good wholesome books for kids.
Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2022 11:22 AM (2JoB
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The Chronicles of Narnia are excellent books for children. Lots of good, wholesome messaging (it's an explicitly Christian allegory).

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 27, 2022 11:28 AM (K5n5d)

305 I'm trying to be a little bit sneaky. The older girl is 10 and a voracious reader, though favoring graphic novels. The younger is 5 and not especially interested in books yet but I'm hoping to get her hooked too.
Posted by: KatieFloyd


10 is perfect for Johnny Tremain. Wahman author! That's how you sell it.

5 ? yeesh. Um, do they still print the Little Golden Books?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 27, 2022 11:28 AM (p6Md5)

306 284 Posted by: m at March 27, 2022 11:17 AM (/xkVv)

Moron James noted "polymath" and hoop dude is not a bibliophile.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 11:29 AM (Lzpvj)

307 Well, white males and somewhat heterosexual.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 27, 2022 11:25 AM (FVME7)

It was those dusky men that proved too alluring to the Foreign Office men.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 27, 2022 11:29 AM (7bRMQ)

308 Well, it's kinda hard to make the act of sitting at a desk typing or scrawling words in a notebook visually exciting. I understand the need of Hollywood to liven things up by showing the author swigging whiskey. At least those old clunky manual typewriters could add to the drama, with their clattering and the drama of the carriage return.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at March 27, 2022 11:30 AM (HabA/)

309 First they came for the chocolate bunnies . . .

Inflation Slaps The Easter Bunny: NY Post Survey Shows Average Cost Of Easter Basket Up Over $10 Since 2019 - Hop In For The Breakdown

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 27, 2022 11:30 AM (FVME7)

310 The older girl is 10 and a voracious reader, though favoring graphic novels. The younger is 5 and not especially interested in books yet but I'm hoping to get her hooked too.
Posted by: KatieFloyd

Heinlein early YA (young adult) books started me towards the conservative side.
Asimov's YA as well.
If they are interested in westerns or the 'old west' Louie Lamoure books are great for hinting at self-sufficiency.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 27, 2022 11:30 AM (R0vP5)

311 My current book purchase : Civil War In Europe, 1905-1949, by Stanley G. Payne. Insty linked to Nathan Pinkoski's Claremont Review of Books review ("Arming the People Against Revolution") of Payne's book, but it's behind a paywall. Rod Dreher, in the American Conservative did a review of Pinkoski's review. I think the Dreher piece is worth a read, even though he never gets around to providing the title to Payne's "Civil War in Europe, 1905-1945". LOL
LINK: tinyurl.com/4762a59

Posted by: mrp at March 27, 2022 11:31 AM (6eRlp)

312 The Chronicles of Narnia are excellent books for children. Lots of good, wholesome messaging (it's an explicitly Christian allegory).
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 27, 2022 11:28 AM (K5n5d)

Third grade grandson is reading these, and we're Jewish. I am a Lewis fan, anyway.

What do you think of Swallows and Amazons for boys? Too girl themed?

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 11:31 AM (ONvIw)

313
I don't remember the specific movies (other than John Belushi in Continental Divide) but they may well have.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 27, 2022 11:20 AM (FVME7)
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How about the intro to Murder, She Wrote? I've been working through the complete Magnum p.i. series and in Season 7 he did a crossover episode with J.B. Fletcher (a friend of Robin's, of course).

Anyway, as a bonus, they have the Murder, She Wrote episode, and I'd all but forgotten the intro.

I still remember my shock when I realized that sweet lady was the mother in The Manchurian Candidate.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 11:31 AM (llXky)

314 As always, a doff of the cap to the Perfessor. Now off to the survey...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 27, 2022 11:31 AM (W66RU)

315 The yield curve is officially inverted.

Posted by: I've got bad news for you at March 27, 2022 11:31 AM (8Ab7S)

316 I've often thought of a technical edit service for authors. No, you can't put a silencer on the gumshoe's snub nose .38. No, you can't have happy kids driving through Dealey Plaza in a Mustang the day before Kennedy was shot. And so on. They wouldn't listen.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 27, 2022 11:32 AM (lz5hY)

317 KatieFloyd, I always suggest the Little House on the Prairie books. If the parents bring up the whole cancellation thing, remind them that the offending comment was edited in the 30's

Laura is not a "good girl" but she is as dutiful as she can get

Posted by: Kindltot at March 27, 2022 11:34 AM (xhaym)

318 Wolfus, you're going to buy gas today?

Better take a book along ...
Posted by: Weak Geek at March 27, 2022


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No lines here yet. I got 7 gallons, 5 of E0 @ 4.01 and 2 of E10 @ 3.67 (my Exxon card gives me .10/gal. off), so about $27.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 11:35 AM (c6xtn)

319 My current book purchase : Civil War In Europe, 1905-1949, by Stanley G. Payne. Insty linked to Nathan Pinkoski's Claremont Review of Books review ("Arming the People Against Revolution") of Payne's book, but it's behind a paywall. Rod Dreher, in the American Conservative did a review of Pinkoski's review. I think the Dreher piece is worth a read, even though he never gets around to providing the title to Payne's "Civil War in Europe, 1905-1945". LOL
LINK: tinyurl.com/4762a59

Posted by: mrp at March 27, 2022 11:31 AM (6eRlp)
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Payne is a serious authority on revolution. Here's my review for those who are interested: tinyurl.com/yc3pw9f4

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 11:36 AM (llXky)

320 Cute three wheeler but I can put 100 times as many books on a thumb drive. And have enough more memory to put a dozen full length porn movies as well as the complete archive of Death Row records.

Posted by: Ray at March 27, 2022 11:37 AM (sw3xv)

321 Inflation Slaps The Easter Bunny: NY Post Survey Shows Average Cost Of Easter Basket Up Over $10 Since 2019 - Hop In For The Breakdown

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 27, 2022 11:30 AM (FVME7)
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The same canned chicken I bought just a few months ago at $8.99 is now $12.99.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 11:37 AM (llXky)

322 The same canned chicken I bought just a few months ago at $8.99 is now $12.99.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 11:37 AM (llXky)

You must buy large cans.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 11:38 AM (ONvIw)

323 Old and busted: Robocop

New and cool: RotorCop

Crime in New York is getting so bad that the mayor is considering deploying an "army of drones" to try and fight it

https://bit.ly/3iFoPQM

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 27, 2022 11:38 AM (FVME7)

324 I've often thought of a technical edit service for authors. No, you can't put a silencer on the gumshoe's snub nose .38. No, you can't have happy kids driving through Dealey Plaza in a Mustang the day before Kennedy was shot. And so on. They wouldn't listen.
Posted by: bill in arkansas


40 years ago the reason those classes didn't sell is because the suits insisted that the audience didn't care if the explosions were loud enough (see: Spielberg's famous quote )

Now, Agenda voids all pretense of things. It's stunt casting all the way down.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 27, 2022 11:39 AM (p6Md5)

325 228 If anyone is looking for some spiritual reading for Lent, I have a few suggestions.

I'm reading Introduction to the Devout Life, by St. Francis de Sales. Obviously written a long time ago (he died in 1622) so a bit flowery in style, but he has some nice observations. I have the Ignatius Press Kindle version which is only 99 cents.

===

Oh that reminds me!
Whilst looking for study bibles, I found out that Ignatius Press, which publishes the Didache Study Bible, is having an Easter sale.
Catholic or Catholic-curious might find interesting stuff. Lots of Rosary related books

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 27, 2022 11:39 AM (lCui1)

326 I've resisted the urge to tell my liberal Trump-hating parents "I told you so" and ask them if they're enjoying reliving the 70s on fixed incomes.

We're all getting along for the moment, so I figure I'll just keep it that way.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 11:39 AM (llXky)

327 Another author I found while clearing up messes of books was Jorge Borges. Kid1 must have read these in college. Another author who used to be tres chic.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 11:40 AM (ONvIw)

328 305 Little Golden Books contributed to me learning to read pre kindergarten. Mom and Dad got fed up with reading the Seven Little Postmen (pre union) night after night after night, and Dad said to Mom, "Hey, let's teach the kid to read."

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 27, 2022 11:40 AM (lz5hY)

329 You must buy large cans.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 11:38 AM (ONvIw)
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Multi-packs. Six per.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 11:40 AM (llXky)

330 Always, always late to the Book Thread!

Still catching up on 100 Days of Dante. I cannot recommend this too highly. One Canto at a time. First watch the video, then read Esolen, preferably while moving your lips, then re-read while underlining and adding marginalia, then pick a quote and enter to my book diary. Forces my goal of doing intentional reading on this astonishing work.

I love love love the Esolen translation.

Posted by: sinmi at March 27, 2022 11:40 AM (A5IVt)

331 Time for Mass! Thanks again, Perfesser!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 11:41 AM (llXky)

332
We're all getting along for the moment, so I figure I'll just keep it that way.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 11:39 AM (llXky)

This is wise. Defensive actions are best when dealing with political relatives.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 11:41 AM (ONvIw)

333 Other cannon v. aircraft movie is Uncharted.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 27, 2022 11:41 AM (FVME7)

334 Crime in New York is getting so bad that the mayor is considering deploying an "army of drones" to try and fight it

https://bit.ly/3iFoPQM
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 27, 2022 11:38 AM (FVME7)

Armed drones are next.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at March 27, 2022 11:42 AM (u5NuV)

335 Okay, so I'm screwing around on this comic book pirate site and I click on one comic and go to the first issue and see that the penciling is credited to one Christopher Taylor.

I kind of wonder if this is the same guy as our Christopher Taylor.

Posted by: Robert at March 27, 2022 11:42 AM (1Yy3c)

336 The same canned chicken I bought just a few months ago at $8.99 is now $12.99.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 11:37 AM (llXky)

You must buy large cans.
Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 11:38 AM (ONvIw)

Everyone loves large cans.

Posted by: Robert at March 27, 2022 11:43 AM (1Yy3c)

337 Everyone loves large cans.
Posted by: Robert at March 27, 2022 11:43 AM (1Yy3c)

Oh for God sakes.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 11:44 AM (ONvIw)

338 Someone pointed out to me that I have to have some degree of liking for the bad guy who is most definitely a monster. Not sure how I'm going to do that. . . .

Posted by: Tonestaple at March 27, 2022


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In one of my fantasy stories I had a race of humans enchanted into bipedal doglike creatures. Originally I wanted them to have no redeeming qualities at all. But I found I couldn't swing that. I settled for them having a loyalty to family, to their own children at least.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 11:45 AM (c6xtn)

339 We're all getting along for the moment, so I figure I'll just keep it that way.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 11:39 AM (llXky)

Better man than me. I wouldn't rub it in but I'd certainly bring it up how big a mistake Biden is and how obvious it alway was.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at March 27, 2022 11:46 AM (u5NuV)

340 Finished Travels with Charley in Search of America by John Steinbeck.

Charley the dog is our source of good humor in this travelogue. He's a standard poodle, communicative and a coward by disposition. Steinbeck custom ordered a GMC pickup and cool medium sized camper shell type sleeper, not a cab-over. He wasn't entirely sure he wanted to drive across the country or write the book. I'm glad he did.

Posted by: 13times at March 27, 2022 11:46 AM (LisZC)

341 Most excellent job as usual, Perfesser!! Thank you!

Posted by: Weasel at March 27, 2022 11:47 AM (0IeYL)

342 Here is one for now of it but needs updating
https://tinyurl.com/yt3dyy86
Close up of the #30 Position Battery 1812 Russians
Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2022 11:04 AM (2JoB
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Skip, I had to run out for a bit so just seeing this now. That's amazing! I'm sorry I missed them on the hobby threads, don't always get a chance to look. You must have the patience of a saint to be able to do that kind of work. But then again, I know you make your living creating things with your hands so you obviously have the disposition and the talent for it.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe 2022! at March 27, 2022 11:48 AM (wyw4S)

343
Armed drones are next.
Posted by: Anti

Antifa already uses weapons.
They write themselves...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 27, 2022 11:48 AM (R0vP5)

344 In one of my fantasy stories I had a race of humans enchanted into bipedal doglike creatures. Originally I wanted them to have no redeeming qualities at all. But I found I couldn't swing that. I settled for them having a loyalty to family, to their own children at least.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 11:45 AM (c6xtn)

For what it's worth, I've met and talked with a large number of sociopaths. There are always redeeming qualities. There have to be, otherwise it's impossible to explain how they get into a group, or into the relationships that enable their actions. And I think sociopaths understand this better than anyone. At, least that's my experience.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 11:49 AM (ONvIw)

345 I am wondering why Janna the android in the Twilight Zone "The Lateness of the Hour" went full emo.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 11:49 AM (Lzpvj)

346 I just learned that there are radio controlled model jets. Have actual turbine engines and use jet fuel.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at March 27, 2022 11:49 AM (u5NuV)

347 Great stuff Squirrel person

Posted by: ... at March 27, 2022 11:50 AM (dscaa)

348 Charley the dog is our source of good humor in this travelogue. He's a standard poodle,

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I have a Charlie the standard poodle but he spells it C H A R L I E.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 27, 2022 11:50 AM (FVME7)

349 We're all getting along for the moment, so I figure I'll just keep it that way.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022 11:39 AM (llXky)

Better man than me. I wouldn't rub it in but I'd certainly bring it up how big a mistake Biden is and how obvious it alway was.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at March 27, 2022 11:46 AM (u5NuV)

You're both better than me. I refused an invite to my cousin's biden voting socialist daughter's wedding. I said can't afford the travel expenses, can't afford the card, so thank biden for me when you see him. Of course it's all bullshit, but I got the point across.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 27, 2022 11:50 AM (VwHCD)

350 I've resisted the urge to tell my liberal Trump-hating parents "I told you so" and ask them if they're enjoying reliving the 70s on fixed incomes.

We're all getting along for the moment, so I figure I'll just keep it that way.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 27, 2022


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I know someone just like that who's old enough to remember the '70s, but hates Trump. If he doesn't bring up the topic of politics, I'll let it slide, but if he does, now I have a perfect rejoinder.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 11:50 AM (c6xtn)

351 I know someone just like that who's old enough to remember the '70s, but hates Trump. If he doesn't bring up the topic of politics, I'll let it slide, but if he does, now I have a perfect rejoinder.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 11:50 AM (c6xtn

Defensive. Good

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 11:51 AM (ONvIw)

352 I'm reading "Death on a Friday afternoon."
I've no opinion so far. About halfway through. It is thought provoking, but some of Neuhaus' musings are disturbing to my Catholic upbringing.

Anyone read it?

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 27, 2022 11:52 AM (U2p+3)

353 Someone pointed out to me that I have to have some degree of liking for the bad guy who is most definitely a monster. Not sure how I'm going to do that. . . .

Posted by: Tonestaple


"It is said that the Devil has all the best tunes" - Prachett.

There's stereotype and there's stereotype. Is your piece genre or, um, literature?

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 27, 2022 11:52 AM (p6Md5)

354 bluebell posted a couple of a doll house I made for my niece ( same who now has a young girl I am getting books for) 30 years ago, it needs some minor repairs and while posted a couple last week on hobby thread want to get better close up pictures. Should be getting it Easter at latest, I need assistance to get it out of my parents attic.

Posted by: Skip at March 27, 2022 11:52 AM (2JoB8)

355 Any recommendations for books that will stealthily introducing conservative values to the grandkids? We recently took a trip to a very woke bookstore and I worry about what they may be reading and how it's shaping their minds. I don't want to make it too obvious or it won't have the effect I'm hoping for.
Posted by: KatieFloyd at March 27, 2022 10:53 AM (ob77J)

The suggestion for Little House on the prairie for the 10 yo is good
The 5 yo - try Berenstain Bears, Arthur the Aardvark.
Is it possible for you to have regular trips to a children's library with them? You can view the library's catalog online beforehand and have some books in mind, the when you get there read aloud to the 5yo while the older one browses.
I'll try to think of more suggestions - check back next Sunday

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 27, 2022 11:52 AM (lCui1)

356 For what it's worth, I've met and talked with a large number of sociopaths. There are always redeeming qualities. There have to be, otherwise it's impossible to explain how they get into a group, or into the relationships that enable their actions. And I think sociopaths understand this better than anyone. At, least that's my experience.
Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022


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Once I was married to one. Yes, they either have such qualities, or they can counterfeit them long enough to achieve what they want.

Some of the great portraits of sociopaths in fiction? Johnnie Aysgarth in Before the Fact by Francis Iles is one.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 11:53 AM (c6xtn)

357 346 We have an airfield near here. It's kind of small (real small) used by the radio controlled model aircraft crowd. They have some really wild stuff, and some small bleachers to let folks watch, because, who wouldn't. Some guy has a small jet.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 27, 2022 11:53 AM (lz5hY)

358 344 Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 11:49 AM (ONvIw)

High-functioning sociopaths from my experience are loyal to the things and people who enable their identity.

They tend to pursue their own desires with passion, the key to making a sociopath useful is to force them into doing positive things in the pursuit of their gratifications.

Not that I'd know.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 11:53 AM (Lzpvj)

359 SPF, I went to the link and made a comment, if you're still here. It was about Chicago?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 27, 2022 11:54 AM (7bRMQ)

360 The Little Golden books are still in print so there. We're not doomed after all.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at March 27, 2022 11:54 AM (p6Md5)

361 Some of the great portraits of sociopaths in fiction? Johnnie Aysgarth in Before the Fact by Francis Iles is one.

I read that as "Before the Fart"....

Posted by: JT at March 27, 2022 11:54 AM (arJlL)

362 There's also the Rush Revere books

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 27, 2022 11:55 AM (lCui1)

363 Some people have gaydar . I have craycraydar.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at March 27, 2022 11:55 AM (u5NuV)

364 The older girl is 10 and a voracious reader, though favoring graphic novels. The younger is 5 and not especially interested in books yet but I'm hoping to get her hooked too.
Posted by: KatieFloyd at March 27, 2022 11:19 AM (ob77J)
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Hi Katie - sorry, had to leave for a bit. I hope you're still here. There are all kinds of wonderful children's books that are not explicitly political, of course, but still teach good old-fashioned values. Some excellent suggestions have already been mentioned.

Some that my kids liked are the Henry Reed books, the Homer Price books, the Ramona and Beezus stories, etc. My all-time favorite children's author is Elizabeth Enright, anything she wrote is wonderful (died way too young).

A sneaky way to get them interested is to read aloud, a chapter or two at a time. The five-year-old will love that and the ten-year-old will come creeping over to hear the story, even though it's not a graphic novel! My kids always loved that.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe 2022! at March 27, 2022 11:56 AM (wyw4S)

365 Charley was from a town not far from Paris. His two upper front teeth were snaggly and visually unpleasant, which gave him some humility, since he's a Frenchy. He pee's like an Arabian stallion. Which is good when confronted by a giant redwood tree.

Posted by: 13times at March 27, 2022 11:58 AM (LisZC)

366 Oh for God sakes.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 11:44 AM (ONvIw)

You forget where you're at, CN?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 27, 2022 11:58 AM (7bRMQ)

367 Being able to order Scholastic paper back books in elementary school made me a reader.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at March 27, 2022 11:59 AM (u5NuV)

368 so the point of the 30 fathom grave is hire better sea scouts

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 11:59 AM (Lzpvj)

369 Charley was from a town not far from Paris. His two upper front teeth were snaggly and visually unpleasant, which gave him some humility, since he's a Frenchy. He pee's like an Arabian stallion. Which is good when confronted by a giant redwood tree.
Posted by: 13times at March 27, 2022


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A marvelous book; I need to read it again. But then I'm a Steinbeck fan.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 12:00 PM (c6xtn)

370 366 Oh for God sakes.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 11:44 AM (ONvIw)

You forget where you're at, CN?
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 27, 2022 11:58 AM (7bRMQ)

I laughed. The joke was unexpected in the posh and thoughtful book thread.

Posted by: m at March 27, 2022 12:00 PM (/xkVv)

371 And Katie - one last thing. If you want to find excellent books by age group, check out sonlight.com. It's a Christian homeschool curriculum provider that uses a literature-based model and they have excellent book lists for K - 12. I used a lot of them for my kids.

Posted by: bluebell - NoVaMoMe 2022! at March 27, 2022 12:00 PM (wyw4S)

372 367 Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at March 27, 2022 11:59 AM (u5NuV)

The Scholastic series helped create many good readers and started many a child on the path to independent thought back in the day, that is why they have politicized the choices available at Scholastic Book Fairs.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 12:01 PM (Lzpvj)

373 I wouldn't rub it in but I'd certainly bring it up how big a mistake Biden is and how obvious it alway was.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter

Didja see Joe's latest attempt to start WWIII.

"For God's sake, this man cannot remain in power," Biden announced at the end of a capstone address delivered outside the Royal Castle in Warsaw.

And here are the usual suspects comparing it to Reagan's "tear down this wall" and swooning about how stunning and brave he is.

https://bit.ly/3wHwmXf

Our only hope is that Putin realizes that Biden is crazy and doesn't know what he's saying.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 27, 2022 12:01 PM (FVME7)

374 Fog of NOOD

Posted by: Skip advising you of your Nood threads at March 27, 2022 12:02 PM (2JoB8)

375 340 ... "Finished Travels with Charley in Search of America by John Steinbeck."

13times,
I first read that in 1969 and fell in love with Charley and Rocinante the truck/camper. I re-read it every few years. Some guy has tried for years to prove that Steinbeck just made up most of the trip. So what. It is still a fun book and many of the observations and attitudes are still enjoyable. I've been haunted by the desire for camper set-up like that for decades but first the money wasn't available and now I wouldn't easily fit in the damn thing. SIGH!

Posted by: JTB at March 27, 2022 12:02 PM (7EjX1)

376 Once I was married to one. Yes, they either have such qualities, or they can counterfeit them long enough to achieve what they want.

Some of the great portraits of sociopaths in fiction? Johnnie Aysgarth in Before the Fact by Francis Iles is one.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 11:53 AM (c6xtn)

They are often faked. Sociopaths, despite their rep, are great planners. Johnnie Aysgarth is a good example. They study individual people, find what they need, or go with a popular facade, and work for an attractive appearance. They're interesting to talk to, unlike the very labile crime passionel types.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 12:02 PM (ONvIw)

377 Being able to order Scholastic paper back books in elementary school made me a reader.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at March 27, 2022


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By the time my jr. high passed around a catalog for Scholastic titles when I was 14, I was already past that level of reading. The only title in the catalog that might have interested me was a Man From U.N.C.L.E. novel, and I already had it and had read it. I was into Ellery Queen, John Dickson Carr, and Alistair MacLean by then.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 27, 2022 12:02 PM (c6xtn)

378
Our only hope is that Putin realizes that Biden is crazy and doesn't know what he's saying.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 27, 2022 12:01 PM (FVME7)

His WH aides have already told us that, but apparently, he's better than admitting who runs the show

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 12:03 PM (ONvIw)

379 Continue to work my way through the Moron-recommended 'The Real Lincoln', and 'The New Dealer's War'. They make for a very interesting parallel read. I would especially recommend the latter. The correlation between the current circumstances (and Democrat politicians/ bureaucrats/fellow-travelers) and the FDR period are distressingly apparent. The primary distinction is that Roosevelt was intelligent and very shrewd in his machinations, and was the puppet master rather than the bumbling puppet.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 27, 2022 12:04 PM (W66RU)

380 Our only hope is that Putin realizes that Biden is crazy and doesn't know what he's saying.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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Perhaps Miley could give Vlad a call...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 27, 2022 12:05 PM (W66RU)

381 Sex Offender Thanks Biden SCOTUS Pick for 3-Month Prison Sentence

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Ahhhh. Isn't that sweet?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 27, 2022 12:06 PM (FVME7)

382 Btw for picture books I like to look at artists and recently came across Catherine Rayner delightful art
www.catherinerayner.co.uk

Another artist with a totally different style with magnificent detail is Demi (one word name)
she has picture books about Alexander, Marco Polo, etc

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 27, 2022 12:06 PM (lCui1)

383
Perhaps Miley could give Vlad a call...
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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Oops, 'Milley'...not our own Miley.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 27, 2022 12:06 PM (W66RU)

384 373 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 27, 2022 12:01 PM (FVME7)

Tom Nichols is engaged in a wonderful gymnastics floor routine where he calls CNN lying traitors for implying Uncle Joe called for regime change and then within 24 hours is praising Joe for his "corrected by the White House" call for regime change.

https://tinyurl.com/mw8yn6ds Tom calls Biden's gaffe an unforced error today

https://tinyurl.com/yckwc58n Tom on Twatter flaming CNN for Chyron

Oh and bonus points to Zelenski for pointing out all words are cheap.

https://tinyurl.com/bdew6d9j Zelenski says Zhou is all talk

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 12:06 PM (Lzpvj)

385 Anyway Zelenski is a rational self-interested national leader who wants the United States to risk WW3 to save his administration.

He properly understands that Biden is not really in charge.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 12:08 PM (Lzpvj)

386 I should think it obvious that I only buy Mickey Spillane novels for the lurid cover art.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 27, 2022 12:08 PM (W66RU)

387 Jeez, just looked at the TV screen showing Retardo getting off USMC 1, and it's looking like article 25. A real stumblebum. We lose Hindenburg and get you know who with a vajina.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 27, 2022 12:09 PM (lz5hY)

388 387 Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 27, 2022 12:09 PM (lz5hY)

They will keep Foggy for at least another 9 months.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 12:10 PM (Lzpvj)

389 233>Thank you for the correction and my thanks to Blacksheep for the recommendation on the Iain Pears series.

Posted by: sidney at March 27, 2022 12:13 PM (7/kmB)

390 385 Anyway Zelenski is a rational self-interested national leader who wants the United States to risk WW3 to save his administration.

He properly understands that Biden is not really in charge.
Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 12:08 PM (Lzpvj)

My views on him are moving toward hatred. He could have made peace and kept the hero shit going. He's very self-interested but I wonder if Kolomoisky is the "rational" part.

Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 12:15 PM (ONvIw)

391 I finished a biography of Benjamin Franklin join by Walter Isaacson. It was quite a fascinating read, in that Franklin was an inventor and the thing that he re invented the most was himself.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 27, 2022 12:15 PM (jTmQV)

392 I inherited from a teacher friend of mine a complete set of every National Geographic map from 1962 to about 2009. I cherish that addition to my collection.
It seems a News addiction may also show a map addiction. I have been collecting maps since 1984 when I was 14. Still have my first ones (avaition maps of the Carribean). This collection (maps and books) is now requiring it's own room for which I am off to home depot for a look at their sheds.

I expect to be shot by the wife when I announce I bought one but it is easier to beg forgiveness than ask permission in my world. She'll like having all the bookshelves out of every corner of the house anyway. That's my angle.

Posted by: Reforger at March 27, 2022 12:15 PM (q9n1e)

393 JTB. I like Steinbeck's Americanism. He fixes his own stuff. Talks like an American, too.

I'm very tired of the English gentry and their version of reality. In fact, if they come from early 20th century Eton, I dislike them... much like Charley's approach to Yellowstone bear.

I'm now reading all of Steinbeck - or rereading - as school children we were force-fed Steinbeck.

Posted by: 13times at March 27, 2022 12:16 PM (LisZC)

394 Sorry for the extra word I'm trying to post from a kindle which is frustrating...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 27, 2022 12:18 PM (jTmQV)

395 390 Posted by: CN The First at March 27, 2022 12:15 PM (ONvIw)

Rational is not good. I am not fond of the guy either. At best he is stuck as a genuine reformer who is trying to hold on to power for his people because he hates how corrupt their oligarchs are. At worst he was always a con and is working hard to contain the collateral damage to the oligarchs who backed him and their kompromat they are afraid will fall to Putin.

Regardless sell or gift him weapons?

Absolutely, not one American life for the Ukraine.

They cannot be taught that you buy American blood by buying our political class.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 12:18 PM (Lzpvj)

396 https://tinyurl.com/3vd7xs7a

Alfred the Great: The Man Who Made England. Hardcover
Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 10:43 AM (Lzpvj)


Thx, sven.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 27, 2022 12:21 PM (5NkmN)

397 396 Posted by: naturalfake at March 27, 2022 12:21 PM (5NkmN)

Alfred is an overlooked figure, so is Harold.

Harold was in a bad spot he reigned less than a year in a contested transition.

William the Conqueror changed the face of England forever.

Posted by: sven at March 27, 2022 12:25 PM (Lzpvj)

398 Thanks for the excellent thread!

Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 27, 2022 12:38 PM (jTmQV)

399 Nooo...don't be over, book thread!!!!!

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 27, 2022 12:43 PM (lCui1)

400 Took the survey. Probably wrote too much. Should have mentioned Niven and Pournelle, but thankfully All Hail Eris did.

Posted by: unwenchable at March 27, 2022 12:44 PM (jqCfy)

401 Nooo...don't be over, book thread!!!!!
Posted by: vmom
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Something of an oasis, isn't it?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 27, 2022 12:46 PM (W66RU)

402 I usually roll out of bed late on Sunday, so I am late to the book thread, but I read it every time. So much rich, gooey substance. Love it.

I keep it open while other threads are active.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at March 27, 2022 12:54 PM (x8Wzq)

403 Thank you to everyone who contributed to my little survey. Lots of great responses. I look forward to consolidating them into something more digestible to read...

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at March 27, 2022 12:54 PM (K5n5d)

404 You're doing great, Perfessor.

Posted by: m at March 27, 2022 12:56 PM (/xkVv)

405 "Writing is often a solitary profession, but effective writing duos are definitely a thing. Who are some of your favorite writing duos? What strengths does each author bring to the story? How do they complement each other to create a better story?"

Have not read a lot of duet authors, but I love what Larry McMurtry and Diana Ossana did when they wrote "Zeke and Ned." A historical fiction account of Cherokees Zeke Proctor and Ned Christie who basically fought the last good fight.

McMurtry is one of my favorite authors, and Ossana's contribution only added to that, not diminish. Wonderful read.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at March 27, 2022 01:10 PM (x8Wzq)

406 Although I must add that Peter Straub and Stephen King worked well writing "The Talisman." In that case, Straub made King more tolerable. Straub's horror novels were always better IMO.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at March 27, 2022 01:12 PM (x8Wzq)

407 LAST!!

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Gen X Ne'er-Do-Well at March 27, 2022 01:40 PM (x8Wzq)

408 I expect to be shot by the wife when I announce I bought one but it is easier to beg forgiveness than ask permission in my world. She'll like having all the bookshelves out of every corner of the house anyway. That's my angle.
Posted by: Reforger at March 27, 2022 12:15 PM (q9n1e)
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Can you ask her to send a range report to the Gun Thread afterward?

Posted by: Weasel at March 27, 2022 01:49 PM (0IeYL)

409 Any of you Historically Oriented Morons know of a good book about Alfred the Great?
Posted by: naturalfake at March 27, 2022 10:05 AM (5NkmN)

The first great book and Alfred was by Alfred Smyth.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at March 27, 2022 02:15 PM (LOVUx)

410 KatieFloyd,

Here's hoping I'm not too late. The Tuttle Twins would be good for that. They're all about free-market economics. My son devoured all that I bought. I think there are 20 or more and they're short reads.

Posted by: Catherine at March 27, 2022 02:21 PM (ZSsrh)

411 KatieFloyd --

Get a copy of the Scrooge McDuck story "A Financial Fable."

It tells how work benefits everybody.

Posted by: Weak Geek at March 27, 2022 02:32 PM (Om/di)

412 @402 --

I consider "Sunday" to be as essential in the title as "Book Thread."

I keep it open until after sundown.

Posted by: Weak Geek at March 27, 2022 02:36 PM (Om/di)

413 "205 Guess what I found out!
You can borrow books from the Internet Archive!
https://archive.org/"

Yep; there's an affiliated site of the Internet Archive called the "Open Library" that has a digital loan program for, I presume, books that are still under copyright. IIRC there was a bit of a kerfuffle about two years ago when the Open Library expanded its lending program and some copyright holders objected; the Library justified its expansion of lending policies because of the WuFlu. One odd thing about the lending program is that the lending period for some books is a reasonable period of a week or so, while others have much shorter periods. BTW, another online books thingee (I'm not sure exactly what to call it, I think it's mostly a books blog including those in the public domain) does a regular feature about books entering public domain-apparently 2022 has lots of stuff becoming available in the US (copyright and public domain dates vary from country to country-this affects Gutenberg for example). Anyway, the site is called Everybodyslibraries dot com, and the home page has a list of the 2022 PD works. Winnie the Pooh is a notable example.

Posted by: Pope John the 20th at March 27, 2022 02:50 PM (xi3bI)

414 Can you ask her to send a range report to the Gun Thread afterward?
Posted by: Weasel at March 27, 2022 01:49 PM (0IeYL)

I am saved by inflation. I can't afford what I want anymore. I still have the brochures that say I could have 6 months ago. Bad timing on my part. Finally got a little money and... oh well I guess I gotta figure something else out.
So nothing to report.

Posted by: Reforger at March 27, 2022 03:21 PM (X6nuc)

415 As for visiting battlefields...

Beginning, I think, after the American Civil War the US Army (West Point, the War College and perhaps other programs) began what they called "staff rides." These were supervised visits to notable battlefields to view the site and analyze the action and tactics of the battle. Guides to some of the staff rides (Battle of Coupons for example) are available as pdfs from the Army University Press-I think they also were available from the Command and Staff College, but I can't find my link to it and quite a few of my US Military links are no longer good.

Also, beginning, I believe, in the late 1970s, the Kansas University Press began publishing a series of War College Guides to various battles of the American Civil War. The Guides are basically new text directions to the various parts of the battlefield to guide the visitor through the battle and some brief background history, various location maps of the battlefield and contemporary descriptions of the action for each part of the battle taken mostly, I presume, from the Official Records of the War of the Rebellion. IIRC, the series covered half a dozen or so ACW battles [cont]

Posted by: Pope John the 20th at March 27, 2022 03:25 PM (xi3bI)

416 Battlefields cont.

I just checked, and the University Press of Kansas shows there were 9 of them and they are still available. It's not clear to me when the series ended; for example the date on the Chickamauga Guide is dated Set 2018 on the web site, but I have a copy with a 1993 copyright. Best guess is that the last new one came out before the turn of the Century and they have been republishing them from time to time.

Anyway, good immersive guides to the battle whether or not you visit the battlefield itself. Also, for other Civil War battles and combats, the Official Record of the War of the Rebellion (the "OR") is a book series that includes about every document concerning the war that survived until it could be published in the OR. The OR consists of three parts, the land warfare OR, the naval OR and the map OR. All are available online; inasmuch as the land OR is, IIRC, nearly 160 vols, you probably don't want to try to save it as pdfs-you can also buy searchable pdf copies fairly cheaply from online services. [cont]

Posted by: Pope John the 20th at March 27, 2022 03:44 PM (xi3bI)

417 the OR cont

For those who are interested, there are equivalents to the OR available for the US side for the naval wars of the American War of Independence, the Naval War of 1812, the Quasi-War with France and more modern wars like WW2. The vols for the AWI, 1812 and the Quasi-War all consist of selected documents rather than a comprehensive collection-the AWI collection is about a dozen vols or so and the 1812 collection was projected to be, IIRC, 2 vols but is now up to 4. I suspect this was done to keep the size manageable as I doubt there is a market today for a 80 vol collection of all documents relating to the naval AWI and the Gov. probably wants to limit its losses on the project. I don't know if the collections for WW 1 and WW 2 are complete or not-I suspect they are as they were done years ago when Gov spending on history projects was less of an issue.

The British also have a sort of equivalent to the OR with after action reports for various naval combats during the French Revolution and Napoleonic War periods in the "Naval Chronicles." All of these are available, or were the last time I checked, online.

Posted by: Pope John the 20th at March 27, 2022 03:55 PM (xi3bI)

418 No. 415 edit:

Battle of Cowpens; D* autocorrect.

Posted by: Pope John the 20th at March 27, 2022 03:57 PM (xi3bI)

419 @415 "...Guides to some of the staff rides (Battle of Coupons for example)..."

Battle of Coupons? Was that part of the January White Sale Campaign?

Posted by: John F. MacMichael at March 27, 2022 03:58 PM (pmRJM)

420 @418, I figured that was what you meant but I could not resist the temptation to snark a bit.

Posted by: John F. MacMichael at March 27, 2022 04:00 PM (pmRJM)

421 419 & 420; No worries; I'm just happy somebody reads my very late to the dance posts.

Posted by: Pope John the 20th at March 27, 2022 04:36 PM (xi3bI)

422 @421; it is one of my ongoing regrets that my Sunday morning schedule does not usually permit me to comment on the Book Thread in a timely fashion. Nevertheless, I do read it every Sunday all the way to the end.

Posted by: John F. MacMichael at March 27, 2022 06:11 PM (pmRJM)

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