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American Foreign Policy Is Adrift. If There Is A Plan, It's A bad One, And if There Is No Plan, It's Just As Bad

It's hard to imagine a worse foreign policy than our current mess of reactive measures and half-measures and meaningless pontifications that emerge from the White House and the state department. We are in retreat everywhere, and have lost any sense of the simplest goals: to protect American interests throughout the world.

In fact it is difficult to see anything remotely good about our total capitulation to Iranian desires for nuclear weapons and Russia's interest in supporting Iran as a proxy to do mischief...and worse.

Cui Bono? Who benefits? It's pretty clear that Iran and Russia benefit, and America and our staunch ally Israel are the losers in this charade. And to make matters worse, this author suggests that the Biden junta is selling out Ukraine just to get Russia's support of the catastrophic Iran deal!

Ukraine first -- Israel next?

Irina Tsukerman, a geopolitical and security analyst, suggests a more sinister linkage between Ukraine and the Iran deal. Biden could be sacrificing Ukraine in order to secure Russia’s co-operation in pushing the recalcitrant Tehran towards a deal, she argues. This may allow America to secure cheap Iranian oil, easing the squeeze on household budgets at home.

Worse still, once the nuclear deal is done, Biden may seek to handcuff Israel to prevent it from taking further military action in Syria or against Iran itself. Why? With the US hooked on Iranian oil, Biden would need to “contain” the regime and prevent it from turning the financial screw by raising oil prices.


But why support Iran in the first place? What possible benefit is there, even in the fever dreams and masturbatory fantasies of Biden's handlers? How can a reconstituted Iranian nuclear weapons program help American interests in the region? How can relaxing restrictions on Iran's terror network benefit America? After all, these are the people responsible for a huge amount of terrorism (much of it directed at America) over the last 40 years. That includes the bombing of the Marine Corps barracks in Lebanon in 1983! And we will be lifting sanctions against Brigadier General Hossein Dehghan, who led IRGC forces in Lebanon and Syria when Hezbollah bombed the Marine compound in Beirut and killed 241 U.S. service members.

The simplest reason for this insanity is a combination of two things:

The first is the obvious dislike of Israel on the part of so many of the actors in this farce. Valerie Jarrett and John Kerry come to mind, but the traditional anti-Semitism and anti-Israel sentiment in the U.S. State Department has been allowed to emerge.

The second is a perverse desire for some sort of counterbalance to Israel's power in the Middle East. That it is benign, and is a huge positive matters not at all. These people would rather see a regional war than allow one country to have military dominance, especially a country that is unabashedly Western and Jewish. But by allowing Iran to produce nuclear weapons is a guarantee of much more instability in the region that can easily spill over to other places.

An ascendant Iran will broaden its terrorist activities, including unleashing Hezbollah in Lebanon. That will provoke a response from Israel, including increasing its attacks on Hezbollah in Syria (where Iran funnels arms). Russia has so far allowed Israel to enter Syrian airspace to attack arms transiting to Lebanon, but how long will that last? Will Israel have to fight the Russians as well as the Syrians, the Iranians and Hezbollah?

Of course China would never dream of taking advantage of regional unrest to further its own interests, so at least the world is safe from that complexity.

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM




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1 Good afternoon

Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2022 11:01 AM (2JoB8)

2 American foreign policy, from the politicians' perspective: Support whatever scheme the regime that is paying you the most to support.

We don't have an "American" foreign policy.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 13, 2022 11:02 AM (zVb98)

3 Greetings, CBD!

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at March 13, 2022 11:02 AM (kuJJV)

4 biden ain't planning anything. He can't even coordinate his morning dump without help. This has deep state written all over it.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at March 13, 2022 11:03 AM (bVYXr)

5 Actually think their foreign policy is perfectly following Barky's, make the USA into another weak member of the international world. No reason the USA should l d be able to have sway or throw its weight around.

Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2022 11:04 AM (2JoB8)

6 Our foreign policy has been reduced to one country is bigger than another country. She is Soon to be our next President.

Posted by: 4thewin at March 13, 2022 11:05 AM (EHOZp)

7 Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at March 13, 2022 11:02 AM (kuJJV)

...and salutations!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 13, 2022 11:06 AM (XIJ/X)

8 We don't have an "American" foreign policy.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 13, 2022 11:02 AM (zVb9

We haven't since Reagan. After then it has been increasing financial globalism.

Posted by: TC at March 13, 2022 11:06 AM (6h3rL)

9 Just read this with regards to the Russia-Ukraine war effort and how it affects the EV industry:

https://bit.ly/3t6W31i

The reality is that Russia is the third-largest producer of nickel in the world and accounts for 10% of the global nickel supply. So, already outrageous nickel prices are set to remain elevated for the foreseeable future, and there are big ramifications for several industries. Specifically, the global push for green energy has grown a bit more complicated, especially for the electric vehicle (EV) sector.

Consider this: new lithium-ion batteries are comprised of anywhere from 33% to 90% nickel. [ ... ] the astronomical prices for lithium, nickel and cobalt right now will further hinder the EV revolution.

The other problem is that 70% of the world's neon comes from Ukraine. This is important because semiconductor lasers utilize neon, so it is vital in the production of semiconductors. Semiconductor manufacturers have stockpiled neon, and they have enough for the second quarter. But if the Russia-Ukraine conflict isn't resolved and these supplies are depleted in the coming months, it could add to the global semiconductor shortage.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 13, 2022 11:07 AM (Do5/p)

10 As long as you view American Foreign policy through the prism of what is best for the bank accounts and bottom lines of the politcial class, MIC, Deep State and Party of Davos all will make sense.

It's been reported that The Junta is trying to get the parties to Abraham Accords to renounce them and start a "new" set of Accords that the Junta will broker.

If that doesn't tell you all you need to know about what's going on at an Atomic Level nothing will.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 13, 2022 11:07 AM (W8qd6)

11 hiya

Posted by: JT at March 13, 2022 11:07 AM (arJlL)

12 It's pretty clear that Iran and Russia benefit, and America and our staunch ally Israel are the losers in this charade. And to make matters worse, this author suggests that the Biden junta is selling out Ukraine just to get Russia's support of the catastrophic Iran deal!


It's pretty clear what the problem is; one word answer - Biden

Posted by: Vic at March 13, 2022 11:08 AM (mZwKe)

13 Actually think their foreign policy is perfectly following Barky's, make the USA into another weak member of the international world. No reason the USA should l d be able to have sway or throw its weight around.
Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2022 11:04 AM (2JoB

One could easily argue, at least since the collapse of the Soviet Union, American foreign policy HAS been about throwing its weight around, mostly to enrich the money men behind the politicians.

So whether it's Democrat or Republican, much of the rest of the world does have a case to be made, that a weaker U.S. (or from my perspective, a less intrusive) would be better for the world, overall. I think there's some truth to that. But at this point it's all corruption, all the way down, so there isn't anything like a coherent U.S. foreign policy anymore. Whoever is pushing Biden's buttons, they're not really American, in that none of them seem to have any loyalty to the American people.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 13, 2022 11:08 AM (zVb98)

14 We don't have an "American" foreign policy.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 13, 2022 11:02 AM

There is no [insert Western nation here] foreign policy anymore.

There is only WEF Great Reset policy. Every politician in every Western nation is controlled in one way or another by the WEF.

Change my mind.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 13, 2022 11:09 AM (Do5/p)

15 America's foreign policy is a hot steamy mess.

Much like Joe's diapers.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 13, 2022 11:09 AM (R/m4+)

16 hiya

Posted by: JT at March 13, 2022 11:07 AM (arJlL)

Did you read the content?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 13, 2022 11:09 AM (XIJ/X)

17 WTF is wrong w/American oil?

Posted by: BignJames at March 13, 2022 11:09 AM (AwYPR)

18 hiya

Posted by: JT at March 13, 2022 11:07 AM (arJlL)

Did you read the content?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Yup; it wasn't boring this time.

Posted by: JT at March 13, 2022 11:10 AM (arJlL)

19 >>> 6 Our foreign policy has been reduced to one country is bigger than another country. She is Soon to be our next President.
Posted by: 4thewin at March 13, 2022 11:05 AM (EHOZp)

The hell you say!

Posted by: DOCTOR Jill at March 13, 2022 11:11 AM (llON8)

20 We don't have an "American" foreign policy.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 13, 2022 11:02 AM

There is no [insert Western nation here] foreign policy anymore.

There is only WEF Great Reset policy. Every politician in every Western nation is controlled in one way or another by the WEF.

Change my mind.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 13, 2022 11:09 AM (Do5/p)

Basically, yeah. Schwab goes around bragging about it. 99% of the world's population has no idea who Klaus Schwab is.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 13, 2022 11:11 AM (zVb98)

21 17 WTF is wrong w/American oil?

Posted by: BignJames at March 13, 2022 11:09 AM (AwYPR)


I think Ace had an answer for that yesterday. I can't remember which thread it was on.

Posted by: Vic at March 13, 2022 11:11 AM (mZwKe)

22 Barky's World Apology Tour was what started me thinking of this.

Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2022 11:11 AM (2JoB8)

23 >>> 17 WTF is wrong w/American oil?
Posted by: BignJames at March 13, 2022 11:09 AM (AwYPR)

It's racist and white supremacist and heteronormative and cisnormative and probably voted for OrangeManBad.

Posted by: MSDNCBSXiNNABC at March 13, 2022 11:12 AM (llON8)

24 WTF is wrong w/American oil?
Posted by: BignJames at March 13, 2022 11:09 AM (AwYPR)

It's oil.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 13, 2022 11:12 AM (zVb98)

25 @12

>>It's pretty clear what the problem is; one word answer - Biden

Biden is only a front, a Meat Puppet, the Junta behind the curtain are calling the shots and it's the same affiliated group that ran Obama.

And that group is composed of the marxist, totalitarians and fascists that have been struggling to gain control of this country for the last 100 years.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 13, 2022 11:12 AM (W8qd6)

26 American politicians and intelligence agencies have always thought Iran could be "turned". They have a preternatural distaste for Russia, we're moderate Islamists until the Carter disaster and now with the youngest population in the region, our folks think they are ripe for re-integration. No one has ever understood their dynastic intent is ingrained in 5000 years of history. There is a dream of revenging Cyrus, Xerxes, etc. but it has been viralized with end time Shia philosophy. Our betters are in effect juggling live grenades - pins pulled.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at March 13, 2022 11:13 AM (oWBc3)

27 It's oil.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 13, 2022 11:12 AM (zVb9

So is Iranian/Saudi/Russian oil.

Posted by: BignJames at March 13, 2022 11:14 AM (AwYPR)

28 I've gone on more liberal message boards and mentioned that if we want oil, there's nowhere in the world that processes it in a cleaner and more environmentally friendly way than North America.

And that if we get off oil, the only way we could ever possibly do it is with nuclear power, ala the way Europe originally attempted to do.

You've never seen liberals get quiet and see their heads spin faster. Lots of folks are reachable on energy issues, if we inform and try to reach...

Posted by: Nova local at March 13, 2022 11:14 AM (exHjb)

29 >>> 20
.....
There is only WEF Great Reset policy. Every politician in every Western nation is controlled in one way or another by the WEF.

Change my mind.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 13, 2022 11:09 AM (Do5/p)

Basically, yeah. Schwab goes around bragging about it. 99% of the world's population has no idea who Klaus Schwab is.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 13, 2022 11:11 AM (zVb9

So, like his daddy?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 13, 2022 11:15 AM (llON8)

30 It's oil.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 13, 2022 11:12 AM (zVb9

So is Iranian/Saudi/Russian oil.
Posted by: BignJames at March 13, 2022 11:14 AM (AwYPR)

Imagine a world where the "international community" can turn off the foreign sources of oil, on a whim.

Now imagine a world where the claim "there is no more oil" can be made, because people forgot there's actually hundreds of years of the stuff, right underneath their feet.

What a world that would be. For them.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 13, 2022 11:17 AM (zVb98)

31 So, like his daddy?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 13, 2022 11:15 AM (llON

ouch

Posted by: BignJames at March 13, 2022 11:17 AM (AwYPR)

32 Empowering Iran doesn't really sound like it is in the interest of the other countries in the region, a lot of which don't really like Iran, at all.

But, seen through the White Man's Burden elitesplaining worldview of the leftist, maybe it's just because they aren't as smart as the junior debate team running American foreign policy and don't fully understand the world and their corner of it like 30-something leftists do. They did take third in the regionals, after all.

Maybe some George Floyd murals and transgender pride flags will help.

Posted by: hogmartin at March 13, 2022 11:18 AM (P4LRL)

33 Buying oil from other places and stopping production here transfers wealth from us to those third world Hell- holes

Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2022 11:19 AM (2JoB8)

34 Basically, yeah. Schwab goes around bragging about it. 99% of the world's population has no idea who Klaus Schwab is.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 13, 2022 11:11 AM (zVb9

So, like his daddy?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 13, 2022 11:15 AM (llON

Well, I'm not sure who his daddy is. I might guess Himmler. He looks more like Himmler than Goebbels.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 13, 2022 11:19 AM (zVb98)

35 Exactly what the Green Earth people wanted to do with Carbon Credits

Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2022 11:19 AM (2JoB8)

36 This is clearly a coordinated effort by the treasonous globalist Progresstitutes and their evil pimps Soros & Schwab to weaken America beyond repair. My prayer is that somehow there remains a greater number of sane adults willing to vote for spine-possessing Americans who can begin to dismantle the deep state. Alas, I also continue to make 2A investments. But I'm not sure I'm ready to concede that we're outnumbered. I think that's what the evil-in-charge is working overtime to make us all believe.

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at March 13, 2022 11:20 AM (kuJJV)

37 @28

It's really quite simple, modern economies run on energy, for the plates to keep spinning, modern economies require economic growth, economic growth takes more energy to grow an economy, this growth take gigawatts and petawatts of energy inputs, renewable sources can deliver at best low megwatts of inefficient, intermittent, low scalability energy.

In short, it's a fantasy.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 13, 2022 11:20 AM (W8qd6)

38 I agree with Clyde. Good morning, CBD!

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 13, 2022 11:21 AM (OssQ4)

39 Competing factions in the Democrat socialist/communist block along with the Olde Guard have a difficult time agreeing to anything these days. The country isn't even being run by a committee... it's completely ad hoc.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 13, 2022 11:22 AM (BFigT)

40 With idiots running DC the old axiom of never killing the sniper who can't hit the broadside of a barn applies.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 13, 2022 11:22 AM (vixAD)

41 Exactly what the Green Earth people wanted to do with Carbon Credits
Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2022 11:19 AM (2JoB

The world's oligarchs use the "greenies" the same way they use black lives.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 13, 2022 11:23 AM (zVb98)

42 Amid Biden's Low Approval, Harris Insists People "Got What They Ordered"

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Good and hard.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 13, 2022 11:23 AM (FVME7)

43 Yeah it's really transferring wealth of us citizens to foreign oligarchs

Posted by: Skip at March 13, 2022 11:24 AM (2JoB8)

44 President Biden issued a warning to his party about the possibility of Republicans taking control of Congress in the upcoming midterm elections during remarks to Democratic National Committee members on Thursday evening.

He encouraged Democrats to use the same work ethic, enthusiasm and energy they had in the 2020 election as they seek to keep control of the House and Senate, and to add seats.

"If we don't do that, don't do that, it''s going to be a sad, sad two years. Think about Republicans if they controlled the Congress these last two years," the president said to members at their winter meeting in Washington, D.C.

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"same work ethic, enthusiasm and energy they had in the 2020 election"? So more better vote fraud?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 13, 2022 11:25 AM (FVME7)

45
Basically, yeah. Schwab goes around bragging about it. 99% of the world's population has no idea who Klaus Schwab is.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 13, 2022 11:11 AM (zVb9


And even the wiki does not go into his early life or tell you about Eugen Schwab, or Klaus' Jewish mother.
It doesn't chatter about his relationship with Apartheid or the factthat the family fortune was built on nazi slave labor. Instead the media names Trump a nazi and looks to model everything but the reset on WWII

Posted by: CN at March 13, 2022 11:26 AM (ONvIw)

46 "same work ethic, enthusiasm and energy they had in the 2020 election"? So more better vote fraud?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Yeah, that's a dog whistle.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 13, 2022 11:26 AM (OssQ4)

47 WTF is wrong w/American oil?
Posted by: BignJames

It's oil.
Posted by: BurtTC


Worse, it's American.

Posted by: mikeski at March 13, 2022 11:27 AM (P1f+c)

48 WTF is wrong w/American oil?
Posted by: BignJames at March 13, 2022 11:09 AM (AwYPR)

It's racist and white supremacist and heteronormative and cisnormative and probably voted for OrangeManBad.
Posted by: MSDNCBSXiNNABC

And doesn't use the right pronouns.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 13, 2022 11:28 AM (FVME7)

49 I'm enjoying some waffles....

Posted by: JT at March 13, 2022 11:29 AM (arJlL)

50 I'm enjoying some waffles....

Posted by: JT at March 13, 2022 11:29 AM (arJlL)

Don't say it....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 13, 2022 11:29 AM (XIJ/X)

51 The Russians have killed an American reporter.

Posted by: Vic at March 13, 2022 11:29 AM (mZwKe)

52 Ayatollah Humungus is a reasonable man. Right?

Posted by: Oddbob at March 13, 2022 11:30 AM (nfrXX)

53 Geraldo Rivera ist mort?

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 13, 2022 11:31 AM (vixAD)

54 We have a world where the nominal elites see themselves as a class apart and have more affinity with each other than the countries that they supposedly represent. They get insider info on how messed up things actually are and it makes them focus on securing their own positions more than attempting to fix anything. And they are told what to do by the people in charge of the big corporations as that is how the elites build their personal wealth thru finances channeled to them by the corporations. And its hard to get the truth on anything as media is dependent on the corporations to live so they follow orders.

Posted by: azjaeger at March 13, 2022 11:31 AM (3/XaG)

55 I'm enjoying some waffles....

Posted by: JT at March 13, 2022 11:29 AM (arJlL)

Don't say it....
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

I'm having them your way, with salt and wood shavings....

Posted by: JT at March 13, 2022 11:31 AM (arJlL)

56 CBD: Your initial mistake is in assuming the Biden junta/deep state are the least bit interested in advancing American interests. Their war cry is "America delendo est!"

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- bitterly clinging to the deplorable life '70s style! at March 13, 2022 11:31 AM (vMM2s)

57 51 The Russians have killed an American reporter.
Posted by: Vic at March 13, 2022 11:29 AM (mZwKe)

Yep, there is a danger to that. And Russians have also bombed a training base for the Ukraine Foreign Legion. Not all fun, games, and victory.

Posted by: CN at March 13, 2022 11:31 AM (ONvIw)

58 Article linked at Revolver yesterday about the CIA's involvement in the creation of WEF and Schwab's elevation by Kissinger.

https://tinyurl.com/yteesrpn

The worst evils in the modern world are always creations of the CIA, it seems. Great Satan, indeed. God help us.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 13, 2022 11:31 AM (OssQ4)

59 The Russians have killed an American reporter.

On purpose or because he (or she) was trying for Scud Stud cred and thought he was bulletproof?

Posted by: Oddbob at March 13, 2022 11:32 AM (nfrXX)

60 Geraldo Rivera ist mort?
Posted by: Anna Puma

Will he be buried in Al Capone's vault ?

Posted by: JT at March 13, 2022 11:32 AM (arJlL)

61 51 The Russians have killed an American reporter.
Posted by: Vic at March 13, 2022 11:29 AM (mZwKe)

Biden junta is Obama 4.0

Posted by: CN at March 13, 2022 11:32 AM (ONvIw)

62 >>> 56 CBD: Your initial mistake is in assuming the Biden junta/deep state are the least bit interested in advancing American interests. Their war cry is "America delendo est!"
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- bitterly clinging to the deplorable life '70s style! at March 13, 2022 11:31 AM (vMM2s)

They are interested in enriching the resident (*not* cultural) American grifter class.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 13, 2022 11:32 AM (llON8)

63 "There is no [insert Western nation here] foreign policy anymore. -- There is only WEF Great Reset policy. Every politician in every Western nation is controlled in one way or another by the WEF."

agree (with the exception of a few still fighting for state sovereignty ... who are largely marginalized with "white supremacist" propaganda).

The excuse to stop American oil is that we will lead on renewables. Total BS, they are of course just crippling US.

Same with poking the bear Putin with the NATO on his doorstep push, my guess is WEF wants that war, probably to destroy Putin. But how WEF plans to get the East to join their globalist ambitions, I'm not clear.

All I can figure is they see the Christian "uprising" in USA (MAGA crowd) as their biggest threat, so we must be totally subsumed and put down harshly first. Homeland "Security" is hunting domestic terrorists, defined as those that question election integrity or question Lord Fauci. Social Credit scores are halfway implemented already.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 13, 2022 11:33 AM (Cus5s)

64 9 Just read this with regards to the Russia-Ukraine war effort and how it affects the EV industry:

https://bit.ly/3t6W31i

...the astronomical prices for lithium, nickel and cobalt right now will further hinder the EV revolution. ...

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 13, 2022 11:07 AM (Do5/p)


We'll just necessarily keep skyrocketing the prices of oil and natural gas through carbon pricing so that EV pricing will be attractive in comparison.

Posted by: Some "Young World Leader" of the WEF, probably. at March 13, 2022 11:34 AM (nRMeC)

65 The Russians have killed an American reporter.
Posted by: Vic

Was it Russians? Articles I read didn't specify. Also *former* NYT reporter -- according to their PR department, and using an expired, 7 year old press pass.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 13, 2022 11:35 AM (OssQ4)

66 > The Russians have killed an American reporter.
_________
To be honest, I did not think there was anyone from the American media "brave" enough to report from war torn Ukraine.

No CNN embeds with Ukrainian fighters? Be better CNN. Be better.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 13, 2022 11:35 AM (BFigT)

67
There is only WEF Great Reset policy. Every politician in every Western nation is controlled in one way or another by the WEF.

That's just conspiracy thinking like the Trilateral Commission and stuff.

Posted by: Your betters in the media at March 13, 2022 11:36 AM (63Dwl)

68 My theory is that the West simply cannot keep the plates spinning with all of the major economies in the world at multiples of debt to GDP and need someway to reorganize and restructure the debt and move the pieces around the chess board, I think whenever this deadly game of musical chairs comes to an end, there are going to be couple of countries left without a chair, The US may be one of those left standings.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 13, 2022 11:37 AM (W8qd6)

69 Iran just publicly attacked our consulate in Irbil, and we have to spend $2 million a year protecting Pompeo and Bolton because the Iranians are trying to kill them in revenge for Solemani.

None of this matters to the Democratic foreign policy establishment.

The Kurds are saying that two missiles hit the consulate, but we are claiming that there was no damage, specifically so we don't have to retaliate.

The simplest reason for this insanity is a combination of two things:

You forget a third thing - that they are being bribed. I've wondered how much of the money that Obama loaded on pallets and flew to Teheran was recycled back to Washington DC. The DC establishment has been bought by foreign countries (like the Saudis) for decades - it wouldn't take much imagination for the Iranians to decide to do that as well.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 13, 2022 11:38 AM (I2/tG)

70 The worst evils in the modern world are always creations of the CIA

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The CIA produced Pearl Harbor?!!!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 13, 2022 11:38 AM (FVME7)

71 Weren't there three (?) bureaucrats that walked away from the Iran negotiations because Biden's people kept giving everything away? One story I saw said they were offering up (dangerous to America) things that were not even on the table ... closer to sabotage than surrender.

Bannon notes how smoothly they transitioned to Emergency Status under covid, to Emergency Status under Ukraine/Russia war. Shut up and support your prez, or you are the terrorist, dawn raids coming to your house soon.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 13, 2022 11:39 AM (Cus5s)

72 @70

>>The CIA produced Pearl Harbor?

No, that was the OSS, the CIA is responsible for everything after WWII.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 13, 2022 11:40 AM (W8qd6)

73 "Of course China would never dream of taking advantage of regional unrest to further its own interests, so at least the world is safe from that complexity."

Bitter, caustic sarcasm is not appreciated. Warranted yes. Appreciated no.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 13, 2022 11:40 AM (lKAqb)

74 51 The Russians have killed an American reporter.

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*types*
*deletes*
*rubs temples*

Is the enemy of my enemy still my friend??

Posted by: Matthew Kant Cipher at March 13, 2022 11:41 AM (kuJJV)

75 Posted by: illiniwek at March 13, 2022 11:33 AM (Cus5s)

Social credit and microchipping is part of the Schwab plan.

I think they're having a harder time selling people on this fight than they expected. In the holy WWII, and everything must be WWII, people fought for their "way of life". Americans will not fight for the right to outsource, for Chinese jobs and for illegal aliens. They won't fight for a corrupt American government either, or to further the ambitions of CRT, Mayorkas' crushing of free speech, or any of this other bullshit. War seems to be favored by the elites/rich like the Romney's who never wore a US military uniform.

I'm tired of Zelensky's never ending supply of green shirts and the myths of Ukraine's holiness.

Posted by: CN at March 13, 2022 11:41 AM (ONvIw)

76 Worse still, once the nuclear deal is done, Biden may seek to handcuff Israel to prevent it from taking further military action in Syria or against Iran itself.

And the "international community" will take the same financial steps against Israel that it is currently taking against Russia.

They're all excited - they didn't predict that the financial sanctions against Russia would work so well, so now they will use them against any country they don't like.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 13, 2022 11:41 AM (I2/tG)

77 >>> 69
.....
You forget a third thing - that they are being bribed. I've wondered how much of the money that Obama loaded on pallets and flew to Teheran was recycled back to Washington DC. The DC establishment has been bought by foreign countries (like the Saudis) for decades - it wouldn't take much imagination for the Iranians to decide to do that as well.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 13, 2022 11:38 AM (I2/tG)

At this point I wonder what fraction of our so-called "foreign aid" made it to the countries we were supposedly sending it to, let alone getting any resources of any sort to those countries' residents.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 13, 2022 11:42 AM (llON8)

78 Was it Russians? Articles I read didn't specify. Also *former* NYT reporter -- according to their PR department, and using an expired, 7 year old press pass.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 13, 2022 11:35 AM (OssQ

Ukraine says "Russians", but I don't believe everything I read.

Posted by: CN at March 13, 2022 11:43 AM (ONvIw)

79 59 The Russians have killed an American reporter.

On purpose or because he (or she) was trying for Scud Stud cred and thought he was bulletproof?

Posted by: Oddbob at March 13, 2022 11:32 AM (nfrXX)


The article did not say exactly how he was killed. However, reporting from a war zone is always dangerous.

Posted by: Vic at March 13, 2022 11:43 AM (mZwKe)

80 Bannon notes how smoothly they transitioned to Emergency Status under covid, to Emergency Status under Ukraine/Russia war. Shut up and support your prez, or you are the terrorist, dawn raids coming to your house soon.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 13, 2022 11:39 AM (Cus5s

I was thinking on this just the other day. It's been crisis after crisis after crisis with this administration, with no room to breathe. Keeps the people fearful, stressed, off-balance. These are really disturbing times.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 13, 2022 11:44 AM (II3Gr)

81 The Russians have killed an American reporter.
Posted by: Vic at March 13, 2022 11:29 AM (mZwKe)

So sad.

More please.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 13, 2022 11:45 AM (R/m4+)

82 Biden's people kept giving everything away?

Biden's lead negotiator, Robert Malley, has close ties to Hamas and Hezbollah. It's why he was selected to be the lead negotiator.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 13, 2022 11:45 AM (I2/tG)

83 The thing to remember is that mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell, you guys.

*cryptkeeper laugh*

Posted by: Kamala Harris at March 13, 2022 11:45 AM (P4LRL)

84 @78

>>
At this point I wonder what fraction of our so-called "foreign aid" made it to the countries we were supposedly sending it to

My guess is no more than 2pct actually get to the intended recipients.

The congress just allocated 14 billion in "aide" for Ukraine, I bet less than 10 million actually ends up getting used for it's intended purpose.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 13, 2022 11:45 AM (W8qd6)

85
The Russians have killed an American reporter.

not to be morbid about it, but is there a name? details? confirmation, mayhaps?

24 hour rule? are they using the "fog of war" to "wag the dog"?

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 13, 2022 11:45 AM (DUIap)

86 America's current foreign policy plan is: Make Joe a Hero. In his own mind. And on the front pages of the New York Time and Washington Post.

Experienced, wily, deal-making, tough-guy Joe knows what he wants from every nation in the world, and means to get it from them. What he wants is always good for America because Joe believes that is so. Biden (Klain) has let it be known throughout the DeepState what Joe wants done to make him a hero-statesman. Everyone has their marching orders, which will never change.

The problems with this "policy:" Joe is an idiot. Joe is a coward who hides behind a public show of being a bully. Joe is not and never has been a hard-bargain deal-maker. (The latest tell on this one: Joe screams that if Congress goes Republican, all he will be left with is his veto pen! Wut? Joe can't make deals about legislation with Republicans to get what he wants? Huh. I thought he was Mr. Reach-Across-the Aisle-and-Get-Things-Done!)

Holy Keee-rist. God, please help the United States of America.

Posted by: Gref at March 13, 2022 11:47 AM (AMIL/)

87 At this point I wonder what fraction of our so-called "foreign aid" made it to the countries we were supposedly sending it to

You need to remember that much of our foreign aid is "tied" - it can only be used for purchasing certain things from American companies.

For example, we give foreign aid to a country to buy F-16's - it's basically a money transfer from the Federal government to General Dynamics.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 13, 2022 11:48 AM (I2/tG)

88 As has been said, everything is an Op.

When one Op ends, another Op Commando Rolls into the space vacated by the last Op and the cycle begins again.

This sequence captures American Domestic and Foreign Policy of the last 250 years.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 13, 2022 11:50 AM (W8qd6)

89 At this point I wonder what fraction of our so-called "foreign aid" made it to the countries we were supposedly sending it to, let alone getting any resources of any sort to those countries' residents.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket

I'm guessing everyone fully expects our $14 billion in aid to the Ukraine will be misappropriated, because why would we need a thousand pleas a day for us normies to "please donate to the poor Ukranians!"? What? $14 billion isn't enough?

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 13, 2022 11:50 AM (OssQ4)

90 The Russians have killed an American reporter.
Posted by: Vic at March 13, 2022 11:29 AM (mZwKe)

And this affects me how?
One less lying lier who lies.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 13, 2022 11:50 AM (s4kNM)

91 82 The Russians have killed an American reporter.
Posted by: Vic at March 13, 2022 11:29 AM (mZwKe)

So sad.

More please.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 13, 2022 11:45 AM (R/m4+)

That's a terrible thing to say.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 13, 2022 11:50 AM (II3Gr)

92 Not sure what all the fuss is about. We are all going to lose.

I'm preparing the best I can.

Posted by: Infidel at March 13, 2022 11:52 AM (ou23q)

93 Ukraine first, Taiwan next.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 13, 2022 11:52 AM (EZebt)

94 94 82 The Russians have killed an American reporter.
Posted by: Vic at March 13, 2022 11:29 AM (mZwKe)

Lucianne has it... I don't know how to bring it over.. he was a freelancer

Posted by: It's me donna at March 13, 2022 11:52 AM (J8ILO)

95 I really wonder sometimes if the root of all this was the CIA importing Nazis after WW2 and listening to them and deciding their plans would work if modified.

Posted by: azjaeger at March 13, 2022 11:52 AM (3/XaG)

96 I don't care about journalists. And they knew the risks for "documenting" the war.

I don't believe Ukraine or Russia or the US government or the UN about this war at this time. I read that the Ukes are hiding among civilians much like the way the Palis and other Muslims do. If so, Russia isn't as squeamish about "human shields" as we are.

Posted by: CN at March 13, 2022 11:52 AM (ONvIw)

97 The article did not say exactly how he was killed. However, reporting from a war zone is always dangerous.
Posted by: Vic at March 13, 2022 11:43 AM (mZwKe)

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60729276

Trying to track refugees leaving Keev - came to a checkpoint and came under fire...2nd documentary filmmaker injured but lived, so this comes from him...

Posted by: Nova local at March 13, 2022 11:52 AM (exHjb)

98 no more mean tweets

norms restored

shut up

Posted by: Klaus & George at March 13, 2022 11:53 AM (fcWVN)

99 Schwab's daddy ran a model Nazi company.

Posted by: CN at March 13, 2022 11:53 AM (ONvIw)

100 Here's the thing, no one likes the mullahs except the Palis and certain Islamic radicals.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 13, 2022 11:53 AM (EZebt)

101 "In addition to the dead 51-year-old Brent (Renaud, NY Times), two more correspondents were injured. Now the wounded have already been rescued from the scene and taken to the capital hospital. The state of health of journalists remains unknown."

Posted by: illiniwek at March 13, 2022 11:53 AM (Cus5s)

102 Brent Renaud is the dead filmmaker...Juan Arredondo is the injured one sharing the story...both from US...

Posted by: Nova local at March 13, 2022 11:54 AM (exHjb)

103 I'm guessing everyone fully expects our $14 billion in aid to the Ukraine will be misappropriated, because why would we need a thousand pleas a day for us normies to "please donate to the poor Ukranians!"? What? $14 billion isn't enough?
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 13, 2022 11:50 AM (OssQ4)

I haven't donated a penny.

Posted by: CN at March 13, 2022 11:54 AM (ONvIw)

104 Schwab's daddy ran a model Nazi company.
Posted by: CN

HO scale?

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 13, 2022 11:54 AM (OssQ4)

105 14 billion? with 10% going to the "big guy?"

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 13, 2022 11:54 AM (lKAqb)

106 it wouldn't take much imagination for the Iranians to decide to do that as well.
Posted by: The ARC of History

That would mean they trust the pols to stay bought...
I wouldn't trust them as far as I could heavy Nadler.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at March 13, 2022 11:55 AM (s4kNM)

107 The year of living dangerously.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 13, 2022 11:55 AM (lKAqb)

108 I took a drive this morning. Gambling kitty was bucks up, so I decided to go play cards. Very relaxing. No clocks at an unnatural time, no Resident Biden, no Ukraine. I was down a little, and could smell a bath coming, so I left. I get home after a grocery stop (sky high), turn on the tube and the clocks are still at unnatural time, Retardo still has a place to sleep in the White House, and Ukraine is looking like Detroit or late 60s Hough in Cleveland.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 13, 2022 11:55 AM (lz5hY)

109 Honestly, every spending bill produced by Congress is simply a grifting opportunity. $14B divided by the 525 members is a nice cut. Ukraine might see a billion or two of "real" money, the rest goes to the syndicate for "expenses."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 13, 2022 11:56 AM (BFigT)

110 Looks like we're gonna ignore the attack on Our base in Iraq......

Posted by: It's me donna at March 13, 2022 11:56 AM (J8ILO)

111 Here is Juan, clean as a whistle reporting from a gurney:

https://tinyurl.com/3bhzc3v7

Posted by: CN at March 13, 2022 11:56 AM (ONvIw)

112 Israel is going to settle Iran's hash, and the Saudis and Jordanians and Emiratis will be helpful and grateful.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 13, 2022 11:56 AM (EZebt)

113 110 Looks like we're gonna ignore the attack on Our base in Iraq......
Posted by: It's me donna at March 13, 2022 11:56 AM (J8ILO)

Yep, the US is only there to protect others

Posted by: CN at March 13, 2022 11:57 AM (ONvIw)

114 112 Israel is going to settle Iran's hash, and the Saudis and Jordanians and Emiratis will be helpful and grateful.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 13, 2022 11:56 AM (EZebt)

As far as I can tell, nobody in that region wants a nuclear Iran except Iran.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 13, 2022 11:57 AM (II3Gr)

115 ".. really wonder sometimes if the root of all this was the CIA importing Nazis after WW2 and listening to them and deciding their plans would work if modified." Posted by: azjaeger

Isn't that basically The Red Thread by Diana West? Except she may have said the "root" was earlier, but that yeah, CIA wants to "complete the mission".

Posted by: illiniwek at March 13, 2022 11:57 AM (Cus5s)

116 100 Hey what about our Leftists?

Posted by: Skip's Phone at March 13, 2022 11:58 AM (D0RZ+)

117 Looks like the "let it burn" contingent wins. Unfortunately what's burning is the Constitution, Rule of Law and the middle class.

But no mean tweets.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at March 13, 2022 11:58 AM (jvt6t)

118 110 Looks like we're gonna ignore the attack on Our base in Iraq......
Posted by: It's me donna at March 13, 2022 11:56 AM (J8ILO)

Yes, since there was "no damage" (our claim), we have vowed to retaliate in full force if it happens again...aka, we're doing natta now...

Posted by: Nova local at March 13, 2022 11:59 AM (exHjb)

119 The Russians have killed an American reporter.
Posted by: Vic at March 13, 2022 11:29 AM


Tap. Tap. Tap. Hmm. Looks like my giveadamn-o-meter is still broken

Posted by: Chuck C at March 13, 2022 11:59 AM (EughT)

120 I was thinking on this just the other day. It's been crisis after crisis after crisis with this administration, with no room to breathe. Keeps the people fearful, stressed, off-balance. These are really disturbing times.
Posted by: Insomniac

Everyone should watch Neil Oliver's monologue from yesterday about this. Sundance has been posting them every Saturday, and he's a calm voice of reason. I've been watching them weekly for the last month, and recommend everyone do the same. CTH link:

https://tinyurl.com/3sr3vc9w

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 13, 2022 12:00 PM (OssQ4)

121 73 @70

>>The CIA produced Pearl Harbor?

No, that was the OSS, the CIA is responsible for everything after WWII.


that's what they *want* you to think. wake up, sheeple!

Posted by: anachronda at March 13, 2022 12:00 PM (l+ype)

122 Reporting from a war zone is like jumping out of a plane. Lots of folks live through it.

A wannabe garden variety pinko Scud Stud is born every minute.

Posted by: klaftern@yahoo.com at March 13, 2022 12:00 PM (taPSh)

123 An American "journalist" killed, eh?

Quick, send in the Marines!!

Posted by: Jak Sucio at March 13, 2022 12:00 PM (jvt6t)

124 As far as I can tell, nobody in that region wants a nuclear Iran except Iran.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 13, 2022 11:57 AM (II3Gr)

===
I advocate for parachuting Valerie Jarrett back there. It is her birthplace after all, and she is a driving force behind it all. With a tire iron of course.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 13, 2022 12:01 PM (EZebt)

125 There's an old book, ancient really, that predicted this. The world ganging up on Israel, whore of s something...

Posted by: Zeera Hunkering down here, Boss at March 13, 2022 12:01 PM (JpwfC)

126
Quick, send in the Marines!!
Posted by: Jak Sucio at March 13, 2022 12:00 PM (jvt6t)

Well they are a NATO Country Kamala says....

Posted by: It's me donna at March 13, 2022 12:01 PM (J8ILO)

127 There are only two legitimate purposes to government, according to Saint Thomas Aquinas.

1) National defense against hostile invaders.
2) Justice. In the courts of law. Criminals MUST be prosecuted and punished to provide peace and happiness to the citizens.

Everything else is theft.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 13, 2022 12:02 PM (lKAqb)

128 122 The last true war reporter was Ernie Pyle.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 13, 2022 12:02 PM (lz5hY)

129 Babylon. Yet Babylon has been ruins for who know how long.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 13, 2022 12:03 PM (lKAqb)

130 American foreign policy is determined by today's hysteria on InstaTwatFace.

Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at March 13, 2022 12:04 PM (3AD8C)

131 NYT guest oped today from the head of a CCCP-connected foreign policy think tank in Beijing saying China isn't keen to prop up a failed Russian economy, and Jake Sullivan's meeting Chinese foreign minister in Rome early next week. I don't think Jake's capable of it, but the discussion should be about precisely where the line of demarcation between Chinese controlled Russia and American controlled Russia should be. Urals? Maybe Moscow's an open city? Vladimir Vladimirovich fucked up.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at March 13, 2022 12:04 PM (V8JPv)

132 While I'm certain the Dems and their actual backers would throw Ukraine under the bus gladly, I don't think that's the primary motivator here.

They need a series of disasters to cover their destruction and remodeling of the economy; all the the crap they've been attributing to COVID and now the war was already happening; general fiscal implosion before COVID, and another energy crisis prior to the war.

Even as an energy and food importer China is in a pretty good position to weather some serious fuckery, here - so what we are likely seeing is the result of both the West and China prodding Putin to go all in. Western progs benefit from a war and China benefits from Putin shooting himself in the dick and jump starting certain Chinese currency initiatives out of desperation.

What I really want to know is - what is responsible for the rather extreme increase in in effectiveness of Western prog propaganda and manipulation efforts around late 2019 or so. It's like a whole different bunch of people took over operating on a different playbook, with the Floyd riots being the last hurrah of the old style.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at March 13, 2022 12:04 PM (qVRSW)

133 117 Looks like the "let it burn" contingent wins. Unfortunately what's burning is the Constitution, Rule of Law and the middle class.

But no mean tweets.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at March 13, 2022 11:58 AM (jvt6t)


analysis true

Posted by: Klaus & George at March 13, 2022 12:04 PM (fcWVN)

134 Quick, send in the Marines!!
Posted by: Jak Sucio

When Biden first addressed the nation on this, and said there will be NO BOOTS ON THE GROUND, that's when I knew beyond doubt that there would be boots on the ground.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 13, 2022 12:04 PM (OssQ4)

135 The Russians have killed an American reporter.
Posted by: Vic at March 13, 2022 11:29 AM

Oh. OK.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 13, 2022 12:04 PM (SKVme)

136 Early in the Obama Mistake, Biden arrogantly told the world to "get used to a nuclear Iran". Its a policy goal of the Democrats. Israel should end that dream once and for all, but Naftali Bennet only does what the Junta tells him to do, or not do.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 13, 2022 12:06 PM (j81mZ)

137
1) National defense against hostile invaders.
2) Justice. In the courts of law. Criminals MUST be prosecuted and punished to provide peace and happiness to the citizens.
------

I would add:

3. Deliver the mail
4. Print the money

I'm less certain about #4

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 13, 2022 12:08 PM (pK7cg)

138 Early in the Obama Mistake, Biden arrogantly told the world to "get used to a nuclear Iran". Its a policy goal of the Democrats.
-------

Barack will not allow you to go back to life as usual.

Posted by: Michelle at March 13, 2022 12:10 PM (pK7cg)

139 Val-Jal is Barky's minion I think pulling Sundowner's puppet strings

Posted by: Skip's Phone at March 13, 2022 12:10 PM (D0RZ+)

140
Oh. OK.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 13, 2022 12:04 PM (SKVme)

Even Sean Penn got out. I suppose we would have let German reporters film our military in WWII, right...or let the North Vietnamese film our actions?

Are these people for real, full of zeal and propaganda, or just making propaganda?

Posted by: CN at March 13, 2022 12:10 PM (ONvIw)

141 My analysis is that there are many non-plans contending with each other to be implemented, each one of which would be a disaster if implemented alone.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 13, 2022 12:12 PM (EJbIh)

142 To all High School and College students,
Marxism is Russian....

Posted by: Beto Ochoa at March 13, 2022 12:13 PM (dzZCL)

143 When Biden first addressed the nation on this, and said there will be NO BOOTS ON THE GROUND, that's when I knew beyond doubt that there would be boots on the ground.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist
---------
"I have said this before, but I shall say it again and again and again: Your boys are not going to be sent into any foreign wars." - FDR


See also, Book Thread:

436 Continue to work my through the Moron-recommended 'The New Dealer's War'. It is astonishing that the Left/Prog/Lib/Dem playbook is so consistent, so disastrous, and yet remains so effective.

Reading of Roosevelt and his fellow travelers, there is very little difference between them (and their 'policies', and the consequences) and the Democrats in power now.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 13, 2022 12:14 PM (GBHAb)

144 Bring back the mafia!

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at March 13, 2022 12:14 PM (Fs5vw)

145 139... Yes. She pulled his much of the time.

Posted by: Beto Ochoa at March 13, 2022 12:14 PM (dzZCL)

146 I'm glad Blinken looked foolish with the "send them the MiGs" campaign. Maybe the Pentagon stood up to the junta's assholes.

Posted by: CN at March 13, 2022 12:14 PM (ONvIw)

147 The Russians have killed an American reporter.
Posted by: Vic at March 13, 2022 11:29 AM

Tap. Tap. Tap. Hmm. Looks like my giveadamn-o-meter is still broken
Posted by: Chuck C at March 13, 2022 11:59 AM (EughT)

Did they do it in Washington DC or NYC? No?

Posted by: Oldcat at March 13, 2022 12:15 PM (EJbIh)

148 I see the negotiations with Iran are going well. Quick! Give them more concessions!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 13, 2022 12:16 PM (R8uWY)

149 Val-Jal is Barky's minion I think pulling Sundowner's puppet strings
Posted by: Skip's
----------

Other way around, I think. Val-Jar is Barky's puppet master.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 13, 2022 12:16 PM (GBHAb)

150 "I have said this before, but I shall say it again and again and again: Your boys are not going to be sent into any foreign wars." - FDR


Of course, after the Japs bombed Pearl Harbor, it was no longer a "foreign" war.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 13, 2022 12:16 PM (mR6Gs)

151 I see the negotiations with Iran are going well. Quick! Give them more concessions!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
--------
Pallets of cash! That ought to do it!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 13, 2022 12:17 PM (GBHAb)

152 The junta is so dedicated to WEF policies that firing acolytes Sullivan, Milley et al never occurred to them after the Afghan debacle. Now, Malloy is busy delivering a hundred year flood of disaster in his Iran deal.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 13, 2022 12:17 PM (hKlEp)

153 144 Yep. Things were calm, cool, and collected when Vince and Tony were running the show back in the Mahoning Valley of Ohio. Even when they got bomb happy, no collateral damage, just the Cadillac.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 13, 2022 12:18 PM (lz5hY)

154 Was it a reporter or a """"reporter"""" like Kashoggi?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 13, 2022 12:18 PM (R8uWY)

155 @131, put down the pipe dude.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindacatorem at March 13, 2022 12:18 PM (oWBc3)

156 Of course, after the Japs bombed Pearl Harbor, it was no longer a "foreign" war.
Posted by: JoeF.

[spoken through clenched patrician teeth]

Yaaaas, it worked out well. Now, let's get the boys shipped to Europe.

Posted by: FDR at March 13, 2022 12:19 PM (GBHAb)

157 Val-Jar is Barky's puppet master.
======================
Yup. It's a pretty open rumor, and very true. Also, of all the wild-ass theory's swirling around the Obama's, (Hey, Michael Robinson, is that YOU??) the Val-Jar-Mommy thing is the most believable. There is no other reason for the level of engagement w/Iran, and the idiotic bowing to the muzzie world in general.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at March 13, 2022 12:20 PM (7Fj9P)

158
154 Was it a reporter or a """"reporter"""" like Kashoggi?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 13, 2022 12:18 PM (R8uWY)

Documentary film maker who used to work for the NYT

Posted by: CN at March 13, 2022 12:20 PM (ONvIw)

159 What I don't understand is is WHY is Kerry, Jarrett and company so hell-bent on practically giving Iran the nuke?

Even if you are anti-Semitic, it's not just about Israel. Iran is just as likely to use it on Saudi Arabia or one of the Gulf States.

Why would you want a bunch of end-of-the worlders-- to be anywhere near nukes?

Posted by: JoeF. at March 13, 2022 12:20 PM (mR6Gs)

160 ...or late 60s Hough in Cleveland.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 13, 2022 11:55 AM (lz5hY)

Oooof...that's bad.

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at March 13, 2022 12:20 PM (BgMrQ)

161 In an effort to show how peaceful they are, in an effort to bolster their peaceful nuclear aims, Iran launches ballistic missiles against Israeli assets in Iraq. Peacefully.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 13, 2022 12:20 PM (R8uWY)

162 151 I see the negotiations with Iran are going well. Quick! Give them more concessions!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
--------
Pallets of cash! That ought to do it!


i recall a rumor from back in the naughties that joe biden's idea for an appropriate response to 9/11 was to ship pallets of cache to tehran, no strings attached. addressing the root cause, you see.

Posted by: anachronda at March 13, 2022 12:20 PM (I8U9h)

163 48 I see the negotiations with Iran are going well. Quick! Give them more concessions!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 13, 2022 12:16 PM (R8uWY

All your daughters will be given to and raised in Iran.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at March 13, 2022 12:21 PM (Fs5vw)

164 Was it a reporter or a """"reporter"""" like Kashoggi?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 13, 2022 12:18 PM (R8uWY)

Kasha > Kashoggi

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 13, 2022 12:21 PM (R/m4+)

165 Why would you want a bunch of end-of-the worlders-- to be anywhere near nukes?
Posted by: JoeF.
---------

Perhaps they are not very bright.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 13, 2022 12:22 PM (GBHAb)

166 Of course, after the Japs bombed Pearl Harbor, it was no longer a "foreign" war.
Posted by: JoeF.

[spoken through clenched patrician teeth]

Yaaaas, it worked out well. Now, let's get the boys shipped to Europe.
Posted by: FDR at March 13, 2022 12:19 PM (GBHAb)


Yes it did, old chap. Indeed. It couldn't have worked out any better.

Posted by: Winston Churchill at March 13, 2022 12:22 PM (mR6Gs)

167 Ok, Iran, you can have a nuke. You are just not allowed to have ballistic missiles with enough range to hit the US. Yet.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 13, 2022 12:22 PM (R8uWY)

168 Other way around, I think. Val-Jar is Barky's puppet master.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 13, 2022 12:16 PM (GBHAb)

Absolutely. Obama couldn't close an umbrella. The only difference between obama and biden is obama don't shit his pants.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 13, 2022 12:23 PM (VwHCD)

169 Other way around, I think. Val-Jar is Barky's puppet master.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.

This picture is burned into my memory:

https://tinyurl.com/22s35h4u

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 13, 2022 12:23 PM (OssQ4)

170 All your daughters will be given to and raised in Iran.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at March 13, 2022 12:21 PM (Fs5vw)

*locks and loads*
The hell they will.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 13, 2022 12:23 PM (II3Gr)

171 164 Kasha > Kashoggi

hoagie > kasha > kashoggi

Posted by: anachronda at March 13, 2022 12:25 PM (I8U9h)

172 Maybe the Pentagon stood up to the junta's assholes.
Posted by: CN

whike i'm glad the outcome went this way, it sets a very bsd precedent. now the military can decide which of the commands placed on them by a president, or congress (war declaration) they want to follow. coups and military dictatorships come from this path.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at March 13, 2022 12:25 PM (IJES/)

173 This picture is burned into my memory
-------

'Seared'...'seared' is evocative emotional manipulation, and lends credibility.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 13, 2022 12:25 PM (bPH26)

174 Everyone should watch Neil Oliver's monologue from yesterday about this. Sundance has been posting them every Saturday, and he's a calm voice of reason. I've been watching them weekly for the last month, and recommend everyone do the same. CTH link:

https://tinyurl.com/3sr3vc9w
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 13, 2022 12:00 PM (OssQ4)

I'm watching it now. It's a good monologue.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 13, 2022 12:25 PM (II3Gr)

175 Why would you want a bunch of end-of-the worlders-- to be anywhere near nukes?
Posted by: JoeF.

When you are a 70 year old man with prostate cancer and a firm belief that the earth has 7 billion too many people, anything is possible.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 13, 2022 12:26 PM (R8uWY)

176 Speaking of Pearl Harbor, I find it incredibly hard to believe that neither Great Britain or The Soviets--both of whom practiced spycraft on a higher level than the US at the time-- did not know about Japanese plans to bomb it.

Of course it was in neither's interest to tip us off, but
Stalin and/or Churchill DEFINITELY knew

Posted by: JoeF. at March 13, 2022 12:27 PM (mR6Gs)

177 Given that Obama doesn't have a very high opinion of *biden I find it difficult to imagine Val-Jar or Barky being granted that kind of access by *biden's enablers... DOCTOR Jill and her cohorts.

It's plausible, but not certain.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 13, 2022 12:27 PM (BFigT)

178 Seared into my hippocampus. Makes you sound smart brainy knowing person who must have an infallible memory because she knows where the memory is stored.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 13, 2022 12:28 PM (R8uWY)

179 whike i'm glad the outcome went this way, it sets a very bsd precedent. now the military can decide which of the commands placed on them by a president, or congress (war declaration) they want to follow. coups and military dictatorships come from this path.
Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at March 13, 2022 12:25 PM (IJES/)

They were already doing this when Trump was president

Posted by: JoeF. at March 13, 2022 12:28 PM (mR6Gs)

180 did not know about Japanese plans to bomb it.
---------

Oh, they expected an attack alright...but not on Pearl.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 13, 2022 12:28 PM (bPH26)

181 172> Didn't the military say no to Trump?

Posted by: CN at March 13, 2022 12:28 PM (ONvIw)

182 FDR knew.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 13, 2022 12:28 PM (R8uWY)

183 Mike that's what I ment, Val-Jal is working for Barky

Posted by: Skip's Phone at March 13, 2022 12:29 PM (D0RZ+)

184 Eh, don't worry about Israel. They and the Saudi's are planning to wipe Iran out as soon as they see the breakthrough coming. This admin has no influence there. Cutting them out when the junta is going to get clipped in a few months is bad business. The Israeli's have the tech and the SA the oil and money to survive.

As for everyone else in the world, they are watching what happens here in 22 and 24. I think its baked in that the dems are going to get hammered in 22, there really isn't much they can do. They've walked themselves into a corner with no escape. Inflation is rising, and the imminent recession will freak everybody out. It's why the globalists are so frantic right now. The window is closing.

The trans/BLM/CRT diversion was done here to keep us tied up and not notice the other stuff. They forgot we can chew gum and walk at the same time, because they cannot.

Keep pushing, wipe out the school boards and freaky teachers. Work for improved voter integrity laws. It's in our grasp.

Posted by: Black JEM at March 13, 2022 12:29 PM (LyTO1)

185 now the military can decide which of the commands placed on them by a president, or congress (war declaration) they want to follow.

And warn their counterparts ahead of time!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 13, 2022 12:30 PM (R8uWY)

186 Given that Obama doesn't have a very high opinion of *biden I find it difficult to imagine Val-Jar or Barky being granted that kind of access by *biden's enablers... DOCTOR Jill and her cohorts.

Who do you think is more Machiavellian?

Jarret or "Dr" Flooze?

Posted by: JoeF. at March 13, 2022 12:30 PM (mR6Gs)

187 hoagie > kasha > kashoggi
Posted by: anachronda at March 13, 2022 12:25 PM (I8U9h)

Hoagy Carmichael > Harold Carmichael

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 13, 2022 12:30 PM (R/m4+)

188 I am sick and tired of having to defend Israel.

Posted by: Harry at March 13, 2022 12:30 PM (EcD5Y)

189 *dons tin-foil hat*

Iran launching ballistic missiles at US in Iraq was not a classical attack.

It was a capability demonstration. We aren't responding because we asked for proof they could launch ballistic missiles.

*removes tin-foil hat*

Posted by: t_bodie - Lurker. Unless you are reading this. at March 13, 2022 12:31 PM (6jpby)

190 They and the Saudi's are planning to wipe Iran out as soon as they see the breakthrough coming.

Good. Solve your own fucking problems.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 13, 2022 12:31 PM (R8uWY)

191 Good. Solve your own fucking problems.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 13, 2022 12:31 PM (R8uWY)

Yeah, but we don't need to make things easier for Iran

Posted by: CN at March 13, 2022 12:32 PM (ONvIw)

192 Our foreign policy, such as it is, very easy to understand.

The State Department is composed of narcissist Lifers who work a bureau and region. There are many patrons of politicians who are really acclimated to Food For Oil programs because that is where the grift lies. Then you have development interests by globalist profiteers. They all get in line.

So the CIA, IMF, UN, WEF and every other meddling Western NGO entities sow corrupt business deals with politicians. CIA occasionally goes in to certain nations that needs political reorganization. The DoD goes in when all else fails.

Short Version: The West stirs the shit in various countries so that multi-billion dollar programs get established to spread the wealth around to the globalist grifters.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at March 13, 2022 12:32 PM (lD3vL)

193 It was a capability demonstration. We aren't responding because we asked for proof they could launch ballistic missiles.

Shit. You guys missed by a mile. You better demand missile guidance systems in the negotiating.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 13, 2022 12:32 PM (R8uWY)

194 This military leadership will all be retiring or court-martialed if DeSantis wins in 24.

Posted by: Black JEM at March 13, 2022 12:33 PM (LyTO1)

195 Bob Dole knows about fucking problems.

Posted by: zombie Bob Dole at March 13, 2022 12:33 PM (vrz2I)

196 Lure Dehghan out into the open and smoke him.

Posted by: torabora at March 13, 2022 12:33 PM (Nw6kB)

197 Short Version: The West stirs the shit in various countries so that multi-billion dollar programs get established to spread the wealth around to the globalist grifters.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at March 13, 2022 12:32 PM (lD3vL)

And Congress

Posted by: CN at March 13, 2022 12:33 PM (ONvIw)

198 >>> 131 NYT guest oped today from the head of a CCCP-connected foreign policy think tank in Beijing saying China isn't keen to prop up a failed Russian economy, and Jake Sullivan's meeting Chinese foreign minister in Rome early next week. I don't think Jake's capable of it, but the discussion should be about precisely where the line of demarcation between Chinese controlled Russia and American controlled Russia should be. Urals? Maybe Moscow's an open city? Vladimir Vladimirovich fucked up.
Posted by: occam's brassiere at March 13, 2022 12:04 PM (V8JPv)

Are you simply quoting an NYT retard, or are you out of your fcking mind? *This* "US" government should invade Russia, in alliance with Fauci-gain-of-function woofloo "ooopsie" CHYna?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 13, 2022 12:35 PM (llON8)

199 Mike that's what I meant, Val-Jal is working for Barky
Posted by: Skip's
---------

It's astounding the extent to which local pols/'activists' have been installed in positions of national influence. Val-Jar may be the prime example.

The list is long...
[shakes bag, Pete Butterjug falls out]

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 13, 2022 12:35 PM (WZ5i4)

200 194 This military leadership will all be retiring or court-martialed if DeSantis wins in 24.
Posted by: Black JEM at March 13, 2022 12:33 PM (LyTO1)

i don't think Mitch will have any trouble knee-capping him.

Posted by: CN at March 13, 2022 12:35 PM (ONvIw)

201 Hey, can't we come up with some Horde think tank to grab some of this global grifter wealth?

Posted by: Black JEM at March 13, 2022 12:35 PM (LyTO1)

202 You forget a third thing - that they are being bribed. I've wondered how much of the money that Obama loaded on pallets and flew to Teheran was recycled back to Washington DC. The DC establishment has been bought by foreign countries (like the Saudis) for decades - it wouldn't take much imagination for the Iranians to decide to do that as well.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 13, 2022 11:38 AM (I2/tG)

At this point I wonder what fraction of our so-called "foreign aid" made it to the countries we were supposedly sending it to, let alone getting any resources of any sort to those countries' residents.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 13, 2022 11:42 AM (llON

Probably half stayed here before shipping out, half of that was swiped by local and area western allies and US staff in the host country, and half of that was stolen by local govenments.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 13, 2022 12:36 PM (EJbIh)

203 What? Are you trying to tell me that a congressman would stir up shit somewhere in the world so that his nephew's NGO can get a multimillion dollar government grant to solve it?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 13, 2022 12:36 PM (R8uWY)

204 You forget a third thing - that they are being bribed. I've wondered how much of the money that Obama loaded on pallets and flew to Teheran was recycled back to Washington DC. The DC establishment has been bought by foreign countries (like the Saudis) for decades - it wouldn't take much imagination for the Iranians to decide to do that as well.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 13, 2022 11:38 AM (I2/tG)


It was once pointed out to me that such payments have the instructions, "Deliver this pallet to so and so, it is X amount of [currency] and it is not all there, So and So knows, so don't worry about counting it"

Posted by: Kindltot at March 13, 2022 12:36 PM (xhaym)

205 Bob Dole knows about fucking problems.
Posted by: zombie Bob
------

[hands Bob a placebo blue pill]

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 13, 2022 12:36 PM (pK7cg)

206 Why do the want Iran to have nukes?

For the next war crisis of course. Plus, if it gets rid of a few icky Jews, so much the better. Pay attention

Posted by: Jak Sucio at March 13, 2022 12:36 PM (jvt6t)

207 I don't think Mitch will be able to kneecap another GOP president who doesn't even mean tweet.

Mitch's time is coming to a close. He will determine how he wants to go out. Defying a president who served in the military to take care of the military trash doesn't strike me as politically expedient in his position.

Posted by: Black JEM at March 13, 2022 12:37 PM (LyTO1)

208 Don't worry. When Mitt is installed, everything will be fine.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at March 13, 2022 12:38 PM (jvt6t)

209 In view of the current lovers quarrel in Ukraine. Ukraine is the third most corrupt country on planet earth. Like the junta in the former US, Ukraine's office holders also are installed.

For generations many large sovereign nations have built bio and chemical weapons to augment their traditional forces. For decades it is policy of the State Department and the DoD to get a piece of the action wherever possible so that they can have weapons and possible antidotes ready.

Wuhan was just such as cooperation. That is why the West freaked out because they knew that this was a bioweapon. Ukraine and Kazakhstan also have DoD/CDC involved bioweapons labs. Every intelligence agency on earth knows this.

All was well until the FJB Junta fucked things up so comprehensively bad that they needed cover so they pushed the Ukraine joins NATO narrative to get Putin to break-up the labs before NATO membership meant WW3 to do it.

Putin is saving humanity by busting up the labs, and crushing the corrupt Western banking cartels.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at March 13, 2022 12:39 PM (lD3vL)

210 203 Israel is going to have to sink or swim on its own.

Of course, all those who seem really, really concerned can still go there - taking their own lives and treasure to support their people. I doubt Israel would turn them away.
Posted by: Cold Hard Truths at March 13, 2022 12:36 PM (Dwx3

My support of Israel took a hard turn when they were the FIRST to congratulate Biden on his"win" of the 2020 election. For Pete's sake...even Mexico issued a statement saying they were waiting with caution to see the actual resullts! Israel couldn't hang back for a couple of days?

Posted by: RondinellaMamma Donald J. Trump is our duly elected president at March 13, 2022 12:39 PM (l0Cy4)

211 Are you simply quoting an NYT retard, or are you out of your fcking mind? *This* "US" government should invade Russia, in alliance with Fauci-gain-of-function woofloo "ooopsie" CHYna?
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 13, 2022 12:35 PM (llON

Every time our Idiots even speak to China, the Chinese leave in an incandescent rage. And now we are allies? For the moment, China and Russia are acting as a bloc

Posted by: Oldcat at March 13, 2022 12:39 PM (EJbIh)

212 If Israel makes peace with the Arab countries and they all turn their attention on Iran, what would they need the US for?

Plus Biden is looking for some sort of deal that might actually get into the history books. Just like Kerry is looking for some grand gesture that will over write that whole "got my ass kicked by George Bush" thing.

I wonder if that is also what pushed Putin to his current insanity. He might be looking at the end and does not want his epitaph to read, "Presided over the demographic decline and relegation to "Also Ran" status in the Great Power Race."

Posted by: JB1000 at March 13, 2022 12:40 PM (wjnNP)

213 If Rand Paul is correct, and he could be, then Israel doesn't need to ask permission anymore. Biden cannot afford that. The money will keep coming, until Israel decides their survival is more important than the money. At that point, Iran ceases to exist.

Posted by: Black JEM at March 13, 2022 12:40 PM (LyTO1)

214 My support of Israel took a hard turn when they were the FIRST to congratulate Biden on his"win" of the 2020 election. For Pete's sake...even Mexico issued a statement saying they were waiting with caution to see the actual resullts! Israel couldn't hang back for a couple of days?
Posted by: RondinellaMamma Donald J. Trump is our duly elected president at March 13, 2022 12:39 PM (l0Cy4)

Trump was working very closely with them to set up the Abraham accords, so it could be that he told them to do that to avoid getting their guns aimed at them first.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 13, 2022 12:40 PM (EJbIh)

215 Why do the want Iran to have nukes?

For the next war crisis of course. Plus, if it gets rid of a few icky Jews, so much the better. Pay attention


A agree, they need a new Boogie man when this Ukraine imbroglio eventually blows over.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at March 13, 2022 12:41 PM (lD3vL)

216 They were already doing this when Trump was president
Posted by: JoeF

yeah, and i'm still pissed about that. make me king for a day and we'll have a military force bereft of nearly every single rank above e7 enlisted and 05 commisioned. overnight. it couldn't possibly worse after i did that than it already is today.

and i would conscript every single military aged relative of the fed politicians and put them into combat arms units, up front, where the pol would reap the result of his/her foreign policy immediately.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at March 13, 2022 12:42 PM (IJES/)

217 Hey, can't we come up with some Horde think tank to grab some of this global grifter wealth?
Posted by: Black JEM

MY HIYAS MATTER !

Posted by: JT at March 13, 2022 12:42 PM (arJlL)

218 Bif gets my vote for king.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 13, 2022 12:43 PM (OssQ4)

219 Who is going to want dollars and buy Treasury securities?

Nobody.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 13, 2022 12:43 PM (lKAqb)

220 Miss Lindsey will never get my vote again.

Hell, I will vote for a Dem(on) just to get him out.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 13, 2022 12:45 PM (lKAqb)

221 US Dollar will continue to be the global currency. Crypto just slit its own throat with the Ukraine-Russia mess.

Give me a single reason to own crypto outside of a highly speculative commodity play where you think you won't be the sucker?

Posted by: Black JEM at March 13, 2022 12:45 PM (LyTO1)

222 A agree, they need a new Boogie man when this Ukraine imbroglio eventually blows over.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at March 13, 2022 12:41 PM (lD3vL)

They already have one: The USA.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at March 13, 2022 12:46 PM (Fs5vw)

223 Oh - and I mean physical dollars.

As for where to park large amounts of money where it won't lose value and is pretty safe, Treasuries are still where its at. As screwed up as we are, there really aren't any better options out there.

Maybe burying it?

Posted by: Black JEM at March 13, 2022 12:47 PM (LyTO1)

224 i don't think Mitch will have any trouble knee-capping him.
Posted by: CN at March 13, 2022 12:35 PM (ONvIw)

For every ten new republican senators/representatives elected in 24 there might be one that you could trust in a shit house with a muzzle on.

Posted by: MAC SOG'''' at March 13, 2022 12:47 PM (P4Pk9)

225 Buy gold and silver and platinum and paladium.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 13, 2022 12:48 PM (lKAqb)

226 Why would Obama go to the trouble of running a coup in Ukraine in 2014 to remove a pro-Russian government and install a pro-western government?

Why did Hillary use Ukrainian assets to help build a fake case of Russia collusion against Trump?

Why did the deep state impeach and try to remove Trump over a phone call to Ukraine when he asked Zelensky to look into the corruption in Ukraine?

Whatever is going on in Ukraine right now is the culmination of years of spy vs spy shit, it didn't just spring up a couple weeks ago. Trying to understand what is going on using anything said by the media is folly, both sides are pushing propaganda at us, mostly the west.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 13, 2022 12:48 PM (ZLI7S)

227 watching ewetube, Mark Knopfler has his own channel and has uploaded a good bit of his live performances. great music. great smart military blog. wonderful sunday.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at March 13, 2022 12:49 PM (IJES/)

228 and nickel and copper.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 13, 2022 12:49 PM (lKAqb)

229 Whatever is going on in Ukraine right now is the culmination of years of spy vs spy shit, it didn't just spring up a couple weeks ago. Trying to understand what is going on using anything said by the media is folly, both sides are pushing propaganda at us, mostly the west.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 13, 2022 12:48 PM (ZLI7S)
==
Hard to argue with that.

Posted by: Black JEM at March 13, 2022 12:49 PM (LyTO1)

230 Gas is down 10-15 cents in my burg today vs mid week. So I have that going for me.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at March 13, 2022 12:51 PM (3vQN0)

231 Speaking of Pearl Harbor, I find it incredibly hard to believe that neither Great Britain or The Soviets--both of whom practiced spycraft on a higher level than the US at the time-- did not know about Japanese plans to bomb it.

Of course it was in neither's interest to tip us off, but
Stalin and/or Churchill DEFINITELY knew
Posted by: JoeF. at March 13, 2022 12:27 PM (mR6Gs)

Un huh. And the Brits also decided that losing over 100,000 men in Singapore and 2 battleships in the first two days was a great way to hide their tricks?

We were already at war where Britain needed it - in the Atlantic and in the convoys providing free munitions under Lend Lease. Opening up a new Pacific Front was a disaster for Britain, also because the Aussies and NZ and Indians were some of their best troops in North Africa and had to be diverted away - and good chunks were lost defending the empire in Malaysia and Burma.

Even PH would likely not have been a huge success if the Japanese had struck even a week earlier - the base had been on alert status for some time, planes ready and men at the stations. They stood down and the first Sunday after that was Dec 7.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 13, 2022 12:51 PM (EJbIh)

232 Trying to understand what is going on using anything said by the media is folly, both sides are pushing propaganda at us, mostly the west.

It's not a good look when the average person can look and say "The Russians have lied less than the Americans" based on all the fabrications of the Ukraine regime that US media mindlessly repeated.

Posted by: Methos at March 13, 2022 12:51 PM (kOpft)

233 Unfortunately it has become declasse to champion America and her values. Our politicians and 'elites'- I hate that word but everyone knows what it means here- seem hellbent on appeasing a vocal, occasionally violent minority in our midst. This spills over into the culture and how we conduct- read 'mismanage'- our affairs.

I don't know how you turn it around. The left has captured the media and the academy.

There must be a reckoning at some point. We can't go on like this.

Posted by: DB - Ukraine girls really knock me out at March 13, 2022 12:52 PM (geLO8)

234 Mitch's time is coming to a close. He will determine how he wants to go out. Defying a president who served in the military to take care of the military trash doesn't strike me as politically expedient in his position.
Posted by: Black JEM at March 13, 2022 12:37 PM (LyTO1)

He has 5 more years and will attack anyone in his way.

Posted by: CN at March 13, 2022 12:52 PM (ONvIw)

235 228 Buy gold and silver and platinum and paladium.
Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 13, 2022 12:48 PM (lKAqb)

Stealing catalytic converters is cheaper and easier for the latter two. Or so I've heard.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 13, 2022 12:53 PM (II3Gr)

236 "Bull" Halsey kept the carriers out of port.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 13, 2022 12:53 PM (lKAqb)

237 American foreign policy used to - you know - be for the benefit of America. Beginning with Obama, taking a break for OrangeManBad and now returning, American foreign policy is for the benefit of everyone BUT America. So whenever people say Biden is a failure or Obama was a failure, they are wrong. Biden and Obama didn't fail. They achieved their goal of further destroying America.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at March 13, 2022 12:53 PM (3vQN0)

238 The Ds flirting with Iran started as their attempt at fixing various problems in and coming from ME. Strong Iran to balance increasingly problematic Saudis, US would be offshore balancer. Not an awful idea, in the abstract, but it can't work. Israel and other Arab states besides SA detest Iran. So that was Ds, and Os, big idea. It failed. Now they're just doing it because. No real logic behind it anymore.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at March 13, 2022 12:53 PM (V8JPv)

239 n a state that's socially Conservative / Libertarian - the Democrats last great idea was Allison Grimes. The chic running around talking about gun control. I hear she was surprised she lost. She didn't even win the east end of Louisville by much.
Posted by: Cold Hard Truths at March 13, 2022 12:41 PM (Dwx3

The old Dems who were politicians are dying out. The new Dems that are insane ideologues for this and that are all that is left. This will have problems for them going forward, as the various ideologies get along as well as Muslims and Crusaders.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 13, 2022 12:53 PM (EJbIh)

240 >>>The Russians have killed an American reporter.

>I'll bet those firearms went off by themselves just like on the set of an Alec Baldwin Production.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 13, 2022 12:54 PM (oWZwa)

241 What concerns me and has me in a total funk is the complete lack of any semblence of statemanship and the ease and rediness to shut off an entire country from world participation because you couldn't diplomatically find a solution. That's abject failure to the point it looks intentional. IMHO, not only did we poke the bear into invading Ukraine, we're conducting a war of anihilization against a target that did not attack us or any of our strategic interests. The financial and social capabilities they've demonstrated in Canada, Russia, and our own J6 protestors has me absolutely gobsmacked.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at March 13, 2022 12:54 PM (iyVGU)

242 I read that platinum was used for catalytic converters.

I didn't know that paladium was used in semiconductors.

Shit. I could have bought paladium when it was $250 / oz.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 13, 2022 12:54 PM (lKAqb)

243 Whatever is going on in Ukraine right now is the culmination of years of spy vs spy shit, it didn't just spring up a couple weeks ago. Trying to understand what is going on using anything said by the media is folly, both sides are pushing propaganda at us, mostly the west.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 13, 2022 12:48 PM (ZLI7S)

I agree. And coup v coup. But I still think that Zelensky betrayed Biden and was meant to fly out before Russian tanks rolled. Whether he's high-minded, grifty, or his oligarchs won't let him escape with cash in hand, is hard to determine.

Posted by: CN at March 13, 2022 12:55 PM (ONvIw)

244 Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at March 13, 2022 12:49 PM (IJES/)

Sailing To Philadelphia is a great love letter to the America that used to exist.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at March 13, 2022 12:55 PM (jvt6t)

245 palladium also has dental applications

Posted by: DB - Ukraine girls really knock me out at March 13, 2022 12:55 PM (geLO8)

246 Mr. Straw has a point.

Ukraine has been in the middle of a lot of corruption aimed at our government. My sympathy meter for them is pegged at zero. The propaganda machine is spinning madly too.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 13, 2022 12:55 PM (BFigT)

247 No such thing as a conservative democrat, no such thing as 'friend across the aisle', no such thing as friend on my side of the aisle. Let's see what's left in the toolbox, hey what is this in this long black pelican case?

Posted by: Eromero at March 13, 2022 12:57 PM (0OP+5)

248 >>It's not a good look when the average person can look and say "The Russians have lied less than the Americans" based on all the fabrications of the Ukraine regime that US media mindlessly repeated.

I'm hearing that Russia killed a US reporter from our media. I also heard that 13 brave Ukrainians stared down the Russian Navy like Leonidas smashing Xerxes at the Hot Gates.

Lots of people shooting in Ukraine right now, how do we know it was the Russians who shot him?

Posted by: JackStraw at March 13, 2022 12:58 PM (ZLI7S)

249 Ukraine has been in the middle of a lot of corruption aimed at our government. My sympathy meter for them is pegged at zero. The propaganda machine is spinning madly too.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at March 13, 2022 12:55 PM (BFig

I feel terrible for the people like us who are caught in this mess, I do not feel sorry for the oligarchy on either side or their hired hands. I don't feel real terrible for "journalists".

Posted by: CN at March 13, 2022 12:58 PM (ONvIw)

250 lets end it all over the shithole Ukraine

makes the Archduke look legit

fuck the grifter Zelenski

end this now

Posted by: REDACTED at March 13, 2022 12:58 PM (us2H3)

251 @244..."Baloney Again" is on Sailing To Philadelphia. That song's about an America that sure as shit doesn't exist anymore. Thank god.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at March 13, 2022 12:59 PM (V8JPv)

252 "The Fed Reserve has been "buying" all that shit up for, literally, years now. You can't auction American Debt anymore. Nobody wants it. Why would they?"

Dollar is strong in the face of crisis. But indeed fed reserve can put trillions on "their books" forever. Thing is, other nations need to sell us stuff so they have those USD petro dollars to buy fuel. That is part "them" throwing trillions around, and makes them OK with trade imbalances ... till ??

Posted by: illiniwek at March 13, 2022 01:00 PM (Cus5s)

253 Lots of people shooting in Ukraine right now, how do we know it was the Russians who shot him?
Posted by: JackStraw at March 13, 2022 12:58 PM (ZLI7S)

We don't. And we don't know if Juan Arrodando is telling the truth either. Journalists are in bed with the Junta, and have proven to be liars. Maybe if they were impartial more people would care about their plight.

Posted by: CN at March 13, 2022 01:00 PM (ONvIw)

254 Three more years of this. Sit down and think about that.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at March 13, 2022 01:00 PM (Fs5vw)

255 Not shirking my duty
NOOD

Posted by: Skip's Phone at March 13, 2022 01:01 PM (D0RZ+)

256 I'm hearing that Russia killed a US reporter from our media. I also heard that 13 brave Ukrainians stared down the Russian Navy like Leonidas smashing Xerxes at the Hot Gates.

I guess now we know what it was like to watch Al Jazeera during the Iraq war.

Posted by: Methos at March 13, 2022 01:01 PM (kOpft)

257 gonna serve Graham right if Vlad comes after his queer ass

fucking bad ass faggot

fuck him

Posted by: REDACTED at March 13, 2022 01:01 PM (us2H3)

258 This will have problems for them going forward, as the various ideologies get along as well as Muslims and Crusaders.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 13, 2022 12:53 PM (EJbIh)

I've been hearing this for the last 30 years. Yet the Left has continued to consolidate its power.

Posted by: TC at March 13, 2022 01:02 PM (6h3rL)

259 Maybe if they were impartial more people would care about their plight.

Posted by: CN at March 13, 2022 01:00 PM (ONvIw)

Excellent point!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 13, 2022 01:02 PM (XIJ/X)

260 >>We don't. And we don't know if Juan Arrodando is telling the truth either. Journalists are in bed with the Junta, and have proven to be liars. Maybe if they were impartial more people would care about their plight.

And there are a ton of Nazis in Ukraine. So many that just a few years ago a Democrat Congressman tacked and amendment on an aid bill to insure that no aid went to the Azov Battalion in Ukraine, a group that has been waging a terror for 7 years in the Donbas region of Ukraine.

The media and of course Democrats and establishment RINOs have been flat out lying about that. Why would I believe a word they say? Most of the media types are morons and the rest are liars.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 13, 2022 01:04 PM (ZLI7S)

261 257. Lindsey is out of control on this subject. He doesn't seem to recognize that Pooty could play that game too. If Pooty does, please let it be Klaus

Posted by: CN at March 13, 2022 01:04 PM (ONvIw)

262
Sailing To Philadelphia is a great love letter to the America that used to exist.
Posted by: Jak Sucio

i love that song. thank you for reminding me of it.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at March 13, 2022 01:04 PM (IJES/)

263 My guess is that reporters "embedded" with Ukraine against Russia are not near as safe as those embedded in Iraq.

Posted by: illiniwek at March 13, 2022 01:05 PM (Cus5s)

264 I agree. And coup v coup. But I still think that Zelensky betrayed Biden and was meant to fly out before Russian tanks rolled. Whether he's high-minded, grifty, or his oligarchs won't let him escape with cash in hand, is hard to determine.

Posted by: CN at March 13, 2022 12:55 PM (ONvIw)


These are not decisions made for single reasons. He may also have decided his duty is to Ukraine, as well, not to the people giving him money. If he wins or draws he is on level footing with the people who figure he is bought.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 13, 2022 01:06 PM (xhaym)

265 OT-I just thought this was really interesting. "85 year old Holocaust survivor eager to testify against the Tree of Life Synagogue shooter." From the "NY Post":

tinyurl.com/yjta2y64

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 13, 2022 01:07 PM (GezNK)

266 @262...try to find ACDC's Brian Johnson show episode with Knopfler. "Tales from the road" or something. Johnson's from Newcastle, like Knopfler, and completely fan boys out with Knopfler. Knopfler runs through STP in a pub on an acoustic and Johnson can't stop smiling. Very charming.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at March 13, 2022 01:07 PM (V8JPv)

267 "The Russians have killed an American reporter"

I'm not sure how I'm supposed to feel about this but I do know how I do feel about it.

Posted by: fd at March 13, 2022 01:08 PM (vrz2I)

268
The media and of course Democrats and establishment RINOs have been flat out lying about that. Why would I believe a word they say? Most of the media types are morons and the rest are liars.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 13, 2022 01:04 PM (ZLI7S)

These nazis are closer to the capital N Hitler Nazis than the people most worry about. The connections are close and the bloodlines connected. It shocked me to see the online version of the Tablet and the Forward say that there is hardly a sprinkling of antisemitism in Ukraine and Putin is Hitler. In my neck of the woods, the hunger for a hero to unite people is very strong, and the hunger for the hero to be Jewish is very strong, too. The whole Ukraine thing is defying logical minds, and achieving God knows what.

Posted by: CN at March 13, 2022 01:09 PM (ONvIw)

269 Excellent point!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 13, 2022 01:02 PM (XIJ/X)

Thanks. Just one more place where hyperpartisanship has been destructive.

Posted by: CN at March 13, 2022 01:10 PM (ONvIw)

270 Iran is a pissant country with the GDP of Dallas-Fort Worth, almost all of which is derived by a commodity that must be exported by tanker and exposed pipeline. Never before in history would the Great Powers have allowed such a country to cause them trouble. Even France would have stomped them flat in the Imperial days.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 13, 2022 01:24 PM (yQpMk)

271 While I don't think it's right around the corner, Ezekiel 39 seems to point to a physical Russian attack on Israel along with other regional allies (Iran, maybe Turkey), which God himself will thwart. While I don't think it's imminent, you can see the pieces moving into place.

Posted by: JohnFNotKerry at March 13, 2022 01:42 PM (iPbC0)

272 Posted by: occam's brassiere at March 13, 2022 12:59 PM (V8JPv)

No shit. I think that was the point genius.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at March 13, 2022 01:53 PM (jvt6t)

273 Mitch has 4 and 3/4 years before he retires, assuming he has enough.

So yes, he doesn't want to go out like Lugar in Indiana. Taking on a president with military bona fides who is cleaning out the stables so to speak is not the best use of his considerable chits. The American public wants the military leadership cleaned out. Especially in a military state like Kentucky. Those country boys like to enlist. He'll pick a different way to screw with us. Not there.

Posted by: Black JEM at March 13, 2022 01:54 PM (LyTO1)

274 If the US "leadership" (and I use the word in its loosest sense) is not bought and paid for and totally owned by the Chinese and the WEF, what exactly would they be doing differently?

Posted by: leber at March 13, 2022 01:58 PM (5taz8)

275 I'd prefer if Vlad kidnapped Lindsey and sold him to a Turkish bathhouse.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 13, 2022 02:11 PM (oWZwa)

276 Cheap Iranian oil???? Oil seldom sells at a discount I'm Syria isn't Iran supporting the forces that are ISIS and alqaeda? Aren't our sIrcraft supporting the Quds forces In Iraq?

Posted by: Kurt at March 13, 2022 02:22 PM (9f7IQ)

277 Shut up, Dunce.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 13, 2022 02:34 PM (yQpMk)

278
American policy is a gay rainbow flag flying on every American embassy we need all the world's people to pledge allegiance to.

The ruling class is degenerate, that's the policy.

Posted by: Auspex at March 13, 2022 02:56 PM (bQvYf)

279 Counter-balance against Israel. Aside from the foamy fantasy of such a need, why is Turkey not used for the counter-balance? While Obama pursued his (Jarret's) Iranian fever-dreams, it seemed that he (she) wanted a strong man in the area, but overlooked that Turkey was already an ally, and a NATO member. A touchy member, sure, but a member. Most of Turkey's anguish against the US was purely because Obama didn't choose them as recipient for his love and largess. I mean - truly: WTF?

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at March 13, 2022 04:03 PM (K58O6)

280 https://tinyurl.com/5ykvj288

Posted by: mildly citrusy at March 13, 2022 04:10 PM (CY+G2)

281 Iran's proxies, the Houthi rebels, are attacking Saudi Arabia. What happens if Saudi Arabia, in retaliation for funding their enemies, does away with the petrodollar?
There is nothing written in stone saying that hyper-inflation can't happen here.

Posted by: mjazzguitar at March 13, 2022 04:27 PM (2PnkB)

282 No one has ever given Brandon an attaboy for any of his foreign policy blunders and that's a long list of failures.

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Posted by: Shirley at March 13, 2022 08:02 PM (NFytM)

284 USGOV is no longer American in any essential sense. USGOV is a viper's nest of our enemies within.

Therefore, don't look to them to give a rat's rear end about "protecting American interests." OBviously, they Hate us.

Why? Because free people stand in their way.

Posted by: Beverly at March 13, 2022 09:45 PM (0v4Oz)

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