Tucker Carlson Goes After Jen Griffin, and the Deep State, On Their Biolab Lies

Mollie
@MZHemingway
Good point here for all war coverage -- simply repeating Pentagon talking points is not reporting. Certainly not sufficient for "debunking." And that would be true even if we didn't have many examples, recently, of Pentagon talking points being flat out wrong or inadequate.

Flashback:

Flashback: Jen Griffin "reporting" on the heroic
strike that obliterated a family and did not
even touch a single terrorist hair

To disclose my own feelings on the Ukranian biolab:

I don't particularly care that a foreign country that doesn't threaten the US has a bioweapons program. Most countries do. I guess in a perfect world I'd like no one to have these programs, but I also don't worry about it. Countries are going to make weapons.

I also don't care that Israel spies on the US. The UK also spies on the US. It happens. Grown-Up Countries sometimes do Grown-Up Things. Little Kid Countries shouldn't do these things, but Grown-Up Countries can do them if they're responsible.

I also do not remotely believe this supplies Putin with some justification for invasion. Putin himself has a bioweapons program that dwarfs anything the Ukranians could come up with.

In addition, the Ukranians already had the old Soviet bioweapons. Are they really afraid that Ukraine has come up with some incremental advance that makes anthrax 1% more transmissible and 4% more deadly?

But what I do care about is the endless, endless remorseless lies from the government, and the insistence that we are not allowed to ask questions. And that if we point out that their obvious lies are in fact obviously lies, we're Russian Agents.

We're Russian Agents for not having IQs in the room temperature range.

What the Deep State and the Brandon Regime is telling is are lies so stupid and so unbelievable that my chief objection to them is the insult to my intellect, not the moral defect of them.

I no longer expect the US government to behave with morality or honor. But can it lie with something approaching everyday-joe intelligence?

I actually do not expect to find anything especially shocking or nefarious at the end of this spool of lies. But I will not hold it against people who do harbor those suspicions. And I'll also say that people like me who say "Eh, probably nothing here" are not the people who crack cases. People who are outraged and compelled to find the answer to the mystery crack cases.

As Lee Smith told me, brilliantly, every good investigative journalist is a little bit crazy. You have to be: You have to be a bit of a paranoid schizophrenic, and you have to be a bit manic, and you have to be a bit of a narcissist in thinking that you, of all people, can bring the whole rotten system down.

And if you don't have that, you'll never get anywhere. You'll just give up after a couple of hours. You'll say, as I almost always say, "Eh, probably nothing here anyway."

But while I don't expect any huge government-toppling revelation at the end of conspiratorial yarn here, here's what I can say right now:

I am sick of the endless lies.

I am sick of one crisis rolling into the next.

I am sick of each crisis being used as the next reason why we must not ask questions but must Believe and Obey people who are proven liars and proven malefactors.

I am sick of every crisis coming with its own #HashtagSmears -- #ConspiracyTheorist, #VaccineDenier, #Traitor -- eagerly deployed by the Cult of the Believers (who believe, literally, everything the Deep State God-State tells them to) to shame and punish and deplatform and debank the nonbelievers.

And no, I do not believe the absolute horse-shit peddled by the incompetent, lazy Deep State "fact sheet" repeater Jennifer Griffin.

Let's start there, for those who just want to dip in for the drama and then jump to the comments:

Tucker Carlson says that reporters who fact checked bio-lab hysteria are "lying" and "didn't bother to do any reporting whatsoever" https://t.co/dM22NsAyXL pic.twitter.com/ntjCh37A7W
— nikki mccann ramírez (@NikkiMcR) March 11, 2022

FoxNews has a rule that you can't personally name any other FoxNews employee you're disputing, but when Jennifer Griffin goes on her neocon/neoliberal shows to "debunk conspiracy theories," she's attacking Tucker Carlson, and right there, Tucker Carlson has dialed her right into his sights and is attacking her right back.

As I mentioned yesterday, Griffin is a Deep State Talking Points Parrot to begin with, but her performance yesterday was particularly egregious. She claimed that the only bio facilities in Ukraine are leftover ones from the Soviet era, which the US has been trying to shut down... since 2005.

I said "since 1991" yesterday, but apparently the US entered this very, very long project to pour bleach on Soviet bioweapons in 2005. Seventeen years ago.

Seventeen years ago, and they still haven't gotten the cap off the bleach.

Maybe you're turning it the wrong way, fellas. I did that once with a drill.

This is obviously preposterous, and when Hannity asked just the most simple question about how she knew this as a fact, she responded, "It's on my fact sheet."

Well, if it's on your "fact sheet," obviously it's a fact. Otherwise it wouldn't be on the sheet.

Excellent work as usual, Jen. You exemplify the very best of what we've come to expect from "Journalists."

Again, I want to stress that, personally, I don't really care if Ukraine has bioweapons labs. And I don't even care all that much if the US is funding them.

Well -- I care because of the likely Fauci connection but not because of the geopolitical questions.

But these fucking stupid, remorseless Junkie Lies have to stop.

Ever talk to a junkie? All they do is lie, and all the lies are stupid, because junkie brains are addled and rotten with drugs, and all the lies are just blunt, stupid gambits to get you to do what they want, which is to let them do their drugs.

Tucker's report from a couple of days ago is worth a watch:

So... these are not "bioweapons" facilities. These are... biodefense facilities, for researching bioweapons to develop defenses against bioweapons.

Huh.

Funny, you know what a lab researching defenses to anthrax has an awful lot of?

It has an awful lot of anthrax.

Little known fact!

This distinction between "bioweapon" and "biodefense" is obviously just more stupid bureaucratic nonsenselies.

The Ukranians have biodefense labs, not bioweapons labs, because they are The Good Guys, and the Good Guys are Miyagi-Do, and only train for defense.

Never for attack, Daniel-san. That is the way of Cobra-Kai, and of Russian Agents.

Also: Victoria Nuland said, in response to that question from Marco Rubio, that the US is now racing to "prevent those research materials from falling into Russian hands," and that she was "quite concerned" about the possibility that Russia would capture them:

Ukraine has "biological research facilities," says Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland, when asked by Sen Rubio if Ukraine has biological or chemical weapons, and says she's worried Russia may get them. But she says she's 100% sure if there's a biological attack, it's Russia. pic.twitter.com/uo3dHDMfAS
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) March 8, 2022

If the claim that the Ukraine labs are "biodefense" labs is supposed to mean they are non-weapon materials, what the hell does the US care if the Russians seize them or not? What are we afraid of, that the Russians are going to get their hands on... cures to diseases?

Tucker Carlson's Reaction To The State Department's Statement To His Show In Response To Questions About "Biological Research Facilities" In Ukraine pic.twitter.com/gxfBykmNRo
— The Columbia Bugle 🇺🇸 (@ColumbiaBugle) March 10, 2022

No, this is stupid. The fear is that they'll get their hands on biological weapons. Which are at these labs. OBVIOUSLY.

Tucker Carlson also made a good point about that answer: Why would Nuland care about Russia seizing "old Soviet-era bioweapons"? Russia already has those, of course.

The only thing that would be "quite concerning" to the US would be the capture of new, um, "research materials."

All this stupid pettifogging about "bioweapons" versus "biodefense" is obviously just so much nonsense after the Wuhan outbreak.

Wuhan lab is supposedly a lab just for researching viruses to learn how to cure them. But strangely enough, it cooked up a virus that killed six million people and shut down the world for two years.

Supposedly that just leaked out accidentally (well, supposedly, it came from a bat that flew 1000 miles from its cave to mate with a pangolin in the wet market), but the only thing that makes a biological agent a biological weapon is intent.

Did you intend to release it as a weapon? Then it's a weapon.

If you're just storing it and researching it... then it's just research material.

But someday, maybe... you might have a different intention, huh?

Again, I don't begrudge Ukraine working on biological weapons.

The US does. Russia sure does.

And as I said yesterday: If the Ukranians had a Plan Z to defend themselves against Russia that maybe involved releasing a little somethin'-somethin' into Moscow, I wouldn't blame them. Not one bit.

BUT I WILL NO LONGER HEAR THE HIGH PRIESTS OF THE GOD-STATE LYING TO ME.

In last night's show he blasted Jen Griffin and the other Deep State Talking Points Parrots, which I already linked.

He also noted the evolution of the spin.

First, the claim was that these facilities were "eliminating" the "old Soviet-era" bioweapons.

But the US started "helping" them do that in 2005. Surely this is something that can be done in a year or less? If the Ukranians really want to "eliminate" the weapons?

So then CNN changed the story: Now we were trying to help the Ukranians "secure" the weapons.

Oh, secure them.

You mean... store them.

Or we could use an even more provocative word: stockpile them.

But of course we and the Ukranians are doing more than that: We helped fund a Level 3 biohazard research lab in Odessa, Ukraine to research "especially deadly pathogens."

Originally posted on June 18th, 2010, the article "Biolab Opens in Ukraine" details how Obama, while serving as an Illinois Senator, helped negotiate a deal to build a level-3 bio-safety lab in the Ukrainian city of Odessa.
...
A 2011 report from the U.S. National Academy of Sciences' Committee on Anticipating Biosecurity Challenges of the Global Expansion of High-Containment Biological Laboratories explained how the Odessa-based laboratory "is responsible for the identification of especially dangerous biological pathogens."
"This laboratory was reconstructed and technically updated up to the BSL-3 level through a cooperative agreement between the United States Department of Defense and the Ministry of Health of Ukraine that started in 2005. The collaboration focuses on preventing the spread of technologies, pathogens, and knowledge that can be used in the development of biological weapons," the report continues.

That story has now been removed from the web. Don't ask why -- only Russian Agents ever wonder why the government is deleting the information that citizens can view.

And did they say 2005? Isn't that right when we started to help Ukraine pour bleach on to its old Soviet-era bioweapons?

And Level 3-- say, wasn't Wuhan a Level 3 biohazard lab...? Why yes it was.

Now, researching "especially dangerous pathogens" sure is going beyond "securing" them.

Again, I'm not saying they don't have the right -- but don't tell me they're "eliminating" old Soviet-era bioweapons when they're running research on "especially deadly pathogens."

Look at covid-19: The only distinction between "biohazardous research material" and a "bioweapon" is your intention to deploy it against an enemy.

All diseases are pre-weaponized: All you have to do is infect a few people with them and send them into a subway car.

Robert Pope is in charge of securing or eliminating Soviet-era bioweapons, so he knows a lot about the subject. But it turns out not all of these Soviet weapons are being destroyed or even secured in Ukraine. Pope acknowledged that in an interview. pic.twitter.com/clO4gsrkgJ
— Tucker Carlson (@TuckerCarlson) March 11, 2022

This may just be make-work to keep Ukranian bioweapons scientists from selling their expertise to terrorist groups, but if so, just tell me.

STOP LYING TO US ABOUT LITERALLY EVERYTHING.

This is the story so far. Here is what you are now expected to believe, to be considered a patriotic American who is not an Agent of Russia:

It's a complete lie to say the US "owns or operates" Ukranian bioweapons labs

Well okay we do fund a bio lab or two but that's not "owning or operating"

(Although frankly let's face it, you know we're bankrolling this entire operation, all of Ukraine's money is tied up in Hunter Biden's crack fund)

And they're not bioweapons labs, they're "biodefense" labs... doing research on bioweapons

And anyway they're only eliminating "old Soviet-era bioweapons," not making new ones

Okay maybe they're not eliminating them so much as "securing" them and/or stockpiling them for later possible use

Okay maybe they're also "researching especially deadly pathogens," but that's just to prevent outbreaks of highly infectious diseases, you know, like they did in Wuhan

And anyone who questions any of that, including the glib double-speak and childish parsings and redefinitions of words, is a Russian Asset who is Working for Putin

Do I have all of this straight now?

Gosh I'd sure like to be accused less often of pushing "Russian propaganda" by people who have turned the US into a Soviet propaganda state.

Maybe people wouldn't be so susceptible to "Russian Disinformation" if they could turn on the TV and not have the fucking Regime and fucking Regime Media fucking lie to their faces about every single thing that happens in the world.

For the Deep State and its lovers, there is ALWAYS a good reason to lie, always a good reason for the next propaganda campaign, always a good reason for the next disinformation campaign against the American people, accompanied by the next smear/coercion campaign that anyone who won't repeat the mantra is a Traitor and an Enemy of the State.

They can always find an exciting new reason to lie.

They just can never seem to find a good reason to tell the truth.

Oh, and guess what?

The government is again "working with the tech companies" to "take down" "false stories" the regime deems propaganda.

The best critical documentary on the Maidan coup censored hours after that coup’s architect, Victoria Nuland, said, "We also work with the tech companies to try to take down false stories and we are working very assiduously on all of that now." pic.twitter.com/5lCU4Kbby1 https://t.co/3nhu4hv979
— Max Blumenthal (@MaxBlumenthal) March 10, 2022

Google is now censoring Oliver Stone movies -- at the request of the US Government.

I hate Oliver Stone myself. But is that where the Patriots and Defenders of Democracy are now -- censoring movies made by annoying opposition iconoclasts?

He's always done this. He has always been "pro-Russia."

Now, that's illegal? And the US government is demanding that illegal-but-tolerated monopolies, which it could break up if they don't obey them, censor Oliver Stone movies on their behalf?

Is that how we "fight the Russians" now?

This is protecting democracy?

National Review, is this what you signed up for when you started cashing Google's checks?

Posted by: Ace at 12:06 PM

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Posted by: Skip's Phone at March 11, 2022 12:05 PM (fUkZA)

2 Bold move cotton...

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at March 11, 2022 12:06 PM (bVYXr)

3 Dutifully called btw, onto content

Posted by: Skip's Phone at March 11, 2022 12:06 PM (fUkZA)

4 Epic Ace Rant! And, I made the rookie mistake of reading.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at March 11, 2022 12:07 PM (wAnMi)

5 CONTENT

Posted by: Deep State 910 at March 11, 2022 12:07 PM (aX0CW)

Posted by: flounder at March 11, 2022 12:07 PM (SH2Zi)

7 I see it all shouldn't have been as ranty, but we'll go back to roman soon enough...

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at March 11, 2022 12:07 PM (wAnMi)

8 Wow. Ace REALLY didn't like that movie.

Off to read the content now.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 11, 2022 12:08 PM (6FeV1)

9 That Flashback.

Brutal.

Posted by: garrett at March 11, 2022 12:08 PM (lhr6a)

10 It really is virtually everything they lie about, isn't it? I'm not quite sure what I'd do if I was aware they were telling the truth.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at March 11, 2022 12:08 PM (wAnMi)

11 DC is malignant

Posted by: CN at March 11, 2022 12:09 PM (ONvIw)

12 Pieces of shit, all of them.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 11, 2022 12:09 PM (89T5c)

13 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 12:09 PM (Zz0t1)

14 The US Government has made it abundantly clear that they believe the #1 threat to America is American Citizens.

Posted by: 29Victor at March 11, 2022 12:10 PM (BJKQV)

15 What the Deep State and the Brandon Regime is telling is are lies so stupid and so unbelievable that my chief objection to them is the insult to my intellect, not the moral defect of them.

I no longer expect the US government to behave with morality or honor. But can it lie with something approaching everyday-joe intelligence?
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They are. That is part of the problem. They are so cloistered that they tell lies for each other. They know they're lying and everyone else knows they're lying, but everyone pretends to believe the lies because they're all in the same club and know what's expected of them.

Where they fail and suffer catastrophic breakdowns is that they forgot that people *not* in the club and not playing but their same demented rules need plausibility. They forgot about that because outsiders - that is, people like us - don't factor into their thought processes. They craft a lie to tell to each other and don't even consider - much less understand - that the rubes will see right through it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 11, 2022 12:10 PM (DU+/6)

16 Maybe you're turning it the wrong way, fellas. I did that once with a drill.
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*snort*

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 11, 2022 12:11 PM (DU+/6)

17 >>Seventeen years ago, and they still haven't gotten the cap off the bleach.

>>Maybe you're turning it the wrong way, fellas. I did that once with a drill.

This is well done, right here.

Posted by: garrett at March 11, 2022 12:11 PM (lhr6a)

18 >>>Putin himself has a bioweapons program that dwarfs anything the Ukranians could come up with.

Unless the bioweapons program(s) in the Ukraine are American or British, for example.

Posted by: m at March 11, 2022 12:11 PM (4vwwZ)

19 Tucker's takedown of his own network's reporter was a thing of beauty, not that he mentioned her by name that I heard last night.

Posted by: huerfano at March 11, 2022 12:11 PM (MzKgG)

20 Grown up countries are gonna do grown up things.

Grown ups lie.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2022 12:11 PM (egg9a)

21 Shit that's a long read.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 12:11 PM (Zz0t1)

22 If the claim that the Ukraine labs are "biodefense" labs is supposed to mean they are non-weapon materials, what the hell does the US care if the Russians seize them or not? What are we afraid of, that the Russians are going to get their hands on... cures to diseases?

No, this is stupid. The fear is that they'll get their hands on biological weapons. Which are at these labs. OBVIOUSLY.
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Ace, when you start applying logic to the elites' statements and then using those logical steps to form questions, you make their jobs much harder. Why can't you just pretend you're one of the Davos types and just take their statements at face value.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 11, 2022 12:12 PM (DU+/6)

23 Wasn't Jen Griffen the reporter that had her computer hacked by the Obama minions? If not, who was the reporter?

Posted by: Darth Randall at March 11, 2022 12:12 PM (3TihK)

24 would like to see Tucker take that bint apart in person on his show -- fix that pinched mouth of hers.

Posted by: Ziba at March 11, 2022 12:12 PM (S1hrL)

25 Good on Tucker.

Just imagine what could happen if we had an impartial press dedicated to the public welfare.

Ah well. Propaganda wing of the DNC it is.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 11, 2022 12:12 PM (XvPQV)

26 How much cock is Jen taking at the Pentagon?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 11, 2022 12:13 PM (89T5c)

27 Shit that's a long read.
Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 12:11 PM (Zz0t1)

You can do it. I believe in you!

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 11, 2022 12:13 PM (Ez6QX)

28 The question is not whether Ukraine has bio labs - the question is whether the US has been funding research in those labs that would be illegal to do in the US, like it was doing in Wuhan.

The US State Department statement on this was very lawyerly indeed - it stated that DOD did not "own" or "operate" any labs in Ukraine. It didn't deny that DOD was funding research in those labs.

I initially thought that this was complete Russian propaganda - until I saw the very narrow "denials" from the US government. Obviously there is something there.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 11, 2022 12:14 PM (I2/tG)

29 The media is the enemy of the GLOBAL POPULATION.

Do not trust them. Do not listen to them. Shun them at every opportunity. They've EARNED it.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 12:14 PM (Zz0t1)

30 Maybe you're turning it the wrong way, fellas. I did that once with a drill.

You'd have loved an old trailer of my father-in-law's.

Rightie loosie, lefty tighty.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2022 12:14 PM (egg9a)

31 'You have to be a bit of a paranoid schizophrenic, and you have to be a bit manic, and you have to be a bit of a narcissist'

I made aces' post!!!! Woot!!!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 11, 2022 12:14 PM (XlDSe)

32 23 Wasn't Jen Griffen the reporter that had her computer hacked by the Obama minions? If not, who was the reporter?
Posted by: Darth Randall at March 11, 2022 12:12 PM (3TihK)

No. Sheryl Attkisson.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 11, 2022 12:14 PM (ptqGC)

33 Once you realize that "Biodefense Lab" is code for "Hunter Biden drug stash" and "research materials" is code for "incriminating evidence against Joe Biden." It all makes sense.

Posted by: 29Victor at March 11, 2022 12:14 PM (BJKQV)

34 26 How much cock is Jen taking at the Pentagon?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 11, 2022 12:13 PM (89T5c)

Just ask Admiral "Rachel" what she still packs, and go from there.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at March 11, 2022 12:14 PM (a/dOO)

35 Wasn't Jen Griffen the reporter that had her computer hacked by the Obama minions? If not, who was the reporter?
Posted by: Darth Randall at March 11, 2022 12:12 PM (3TihK)

Sheryl Atkisson.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 11, 2022 12:14 PM (89T5c)

36 Bidens made a lot of money on this

Posted by: CN at March 11, 2022 12:14 PM (ONvIw)

37 Sheryl, autocucumber, you idiot.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 11, 2022 12:15 PM (ptqGC)

38 STOP LYING TO US ABOUT LITERALLY EVERYTHING.
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For the Deep State and its lovers, there is ALWAYS a good reason to lie, always a good reason for the next propaganda campaign, always a good reason for the next disinformation campaign against the American people, accompanied by the next smear/coercion campaign that anyone who won't repeat the mantra is a Traitor and an Enemy of the State.
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The reason they won't (indeed, can't) stop lying about everything is right there. The entire structure runs on lies. All of it. Without exception. At this point, I suspect a single truth, even uttered accidentally, might cause the structure to collapse.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 11, 2022 12:15 PM (DU+/6)

39 It's a cock fight between the two Jens. The one with the tongue piercing wins.

Posted by: Ziba at March 11, 2022 12:15 PM (S1hrL)

40 Lotta damn content the ace...excuse me, Ace.

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at March 11, 2022 12:15 PM (BgMrQ)

41 I made aces' post!!!! Woot!!!
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 11, 2022 12:14 PM (XlDSe)

LOL

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 11, 2022 12:15 PM (Ez6QX)

42 This is a good essay. It's long, but you should actually read it when you find time.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 11, 2022 12:15 PM (DU+/6)

43 SHARYL. Autocucumber will not be denied.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 11, 2022 12:15 PM (ptqGC)

44 Was a righteous rant. Funny how China's Covid bio-lab wasn't ever mentioned until well after Covid epidemic was gokng.

Posted by: Skip's Phone at March 11, 2022 12:16 PM (fUkZA)

45 Ironic that Infighting within Fox News is happening onscreen just as CNN is starting to deescalate their Fox News Hate.

Posted by: LizLem at March 11, 2022 12:16 PM (DSEwP)

46 It really is virtually everything they lie about, isn't it? I'm not quite sure what I'd do if I was aware they were telling the truth.
Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at March 11, 2022 12:08 PM (wAnMi)

If you're evil, then the truth is bound to hurt you eventually, even if you can't quite see how just yet. So you lie, lie, lie, if for no other reason than just to keep in practice.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 11, 2022 12:17 PM (6FeV1)

47 >>Bidens made a lot of money on this

Would be nice to see someone seize all of it.

Posted by: garrett at March 11, 2022 12:17 PM (lhr6a)

48 LOL

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 11, 2022 12:15 PM (Ez6QX)

hey babe. Heidi says "HI!"

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 11, 2022 12:17 PM (XlDSe)

49 This is an Ace post, not an ace post!

So much text I can rearrange the letters into War and Peace, The Jennifer Griffin Story of Bravery and Being a Mouthpiece for Men in Uniform.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 11, 2022 12:17 PM (LKTKP)

50 I just can't believe that ace is peddling Russian disinformation. Of all the people...

/sarc

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 11, 2022 12:18 PM (II3Gr)

51 I honestly think the internet, in part, and social media en toto, have RUINED news. NO one gets out anymore. NO one puts foot to the floor. They ALL get their shit off the internet and do NO manual research anymore.

They're lazy as FUCK and it's destroying society as a whole. The US will no longer be the bastion of freedom on earth because the lemmings will follow the media straight into the gulags, thanking them along the way.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 12:18 PM (Zz0t1)

52 I'd also add, I fear that Tucker will soon be headlining the new FoxNews+ division, just hastily announced and going to be set up in third quarter of 202X.

I don't always agree with him, but he is by far the only person in the news media who is always willing to stray from or question the prevailing narrative.

Posted by: Virginia SoCon at March 11, 2022 12:18 PM (a/dOO)

53 In Canada, the news media have slightly higher than room temperature IQs. Unfortunately, there they use the Celsius scale.

Posted by: MichiCanuck at March 11, 2022 12:18 PM (VNnoq)

54 Was a righteous rant. Funny how China's Covid bio-lab wasn't ever mentioned until well after Covid epidemic was gokng.
Posted by: Skip's Phone at March 11, 2022 12:16 PM (fUkZA)
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I suspect that isn't so much secrecy and deception so much as it ties in to what Ace put in the post:
Again, I don't begrudge Ukraine working on biological weapons.
The US does. Russia sure does.

He could have added "China does" to that list, or any other country that isn't utterly impoverished. I doubt the Wuhan lab was discussed not because it was being hidden, but because everybody does this all the time.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 11, 2022 12:18 PM (DU+/6)

55 100% agree Ace.
And I actually read the whole thing.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at March 11, 2022 12:18 PM (FlLTu)

56 The US no longer has a shred of moral authority. It doesn't matter that its's a gangster government calling you out on the world stage when the charges are TRUE!

Posted by: PacosMojo at March 11, 2022 12:18 PM (4Pleu)

57 Would be nice to see someone seize all of it.
Posted by: garrett at March 11, 2022 12:17 PM (lhr6a)

I agree. After all DC and the Davos boys are seizing Russian assets

Posted by: CN at March 11, 2022 12:18 PM (ONvIw)

58 The world would be a better place if the MSM imbeciles were thrown into a pile and set on fire in a blaze that could be seen from the moon.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh. at March 11, 2022 12:18 PM (eGTCV)

59 Sheryl Attkisson was the one who Gaylord's goons hacked her computer.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at March 11, 2022 12:18 PM (y7DUB)

60 Bill O'Reilly says Jen Griffin is a good reporter because she gets her information direct from the Pentagon.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 11, 2022 12:18 PM (63Dwl)

61 I'm sorry that was unkind of me.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh. at March 11, 2022 12:19 PM (eGTCV)

62 OK, NOW I gotta do taxes. Unless....someone kills me.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 11, 2022 12:19 PM (XlDSe)

63 At a minimum, you have to appreciate the irony of Duck Duck Go taking down RT and Sputnik content because it's "disinformation", while the U.S. government and their tech ally's go full Soviet.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 11, 2022 12:19 PM (nkAm6)

64 >>when Hannity asked just the most simple question about how she knew this as a fact, she responded, "It's on my fact sheet."

dammit I want a fact sheet too

Posted by: DB at March 11, 2022 12:19 PM (geLO8)

65 Google is now censoring Oliver Stone movies -- at the request of the US Government.

I hate Oliver Stone myself. But is that where the Patriots and Defenders of Democracy are now -- censoring movies made by annoying opposition iconoclasts?

He's always done this. He has always been "pro-Russia."

Now, that's illegal? And the US government is demanding that illegal-but-tolerated monopolies, which it could break up if they don't obey them, censor Oliver Stone movies on their behalf?

Is that how we "fight the Russians" now? This is protecting democracy?

National Review, is this what you signed up for when you started cashing Google's checks?

Posted by: Capital-A Ace because damnit I deserve it at March 11, 2022 12:19 PM (0G13K)

66 If Ukraine's biolabs exist for the purpose of finding vaccines for livestock diseases, as the State Department claimed yesterday, show us the vaccines it developed.

One.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 11, 2022 12:19 PM (PlR4s)

67 From my understanding, Obama removed the restriction on Government propaganda, so pretty much everything our Goverment says has to be taken with a large chunk or propaganda rock salt.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 11, 2022 12:19 PM (ynpvh)

68 If I had to sum up my feelings:

* All the corruption that the statists have instituted here, and what they thought they had covered up, they didn't. They patched a bandage on a festering wound.

* Now Putin is going to use these treasonous bureaucrats' evil deeds to further _his_ evil deeds.

* I feel very bitter right now.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Cryptid Anarchist at March 11, 2022 12:20 PM (2NSDu)

69 Believe NOTHING you hear from this Junta and believe only HALF of what you see from this Junta.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at March 11, 2022 12:20 PM (FlLTu)

70 Yeah I don't care if Ukraine was running bioweapons research labs. But I rather do mind if (and it seems likely to be true) Romney, Biden and other U.S. politicians were grifting off of Fauci running research that U.S. law forbids by funding labs in China and the Ukraine to do it.

I want some forced resignations. And I hate the deep staters and grifters enough that I'm ok if it ends up with the U.S. in chaos. Maybe we get even worse totalitarian system then we have now instead of good from the creative destruction but we already have wretched conditions for the political prisoners and show trials. Let It Burn

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at March 11, 2022 12:20 PM (3cGpq)

71 We have an out of control government that is indeed trying to run the life of everyone alive.

I think the problem goes back to the money. The fucking income tax and the federal reserve, being able to spend more money than you take in.

Once the money spigot is installed, it creates incentive for corruption, to seize control of the money spigot to keep it open and flowing.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 11, 2022 12:20 PM (XvPQV)

72 66 If Ukraine's biolabs exist for the purpose of finding vaccines for livestock diseases, as the State Department claimed yesterday, show us the vaccines it developed.

One.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 11, 2022 12:19 PM (PlR4s)

COVID?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 11, 2022 12:20 PM (ynpvh)

73 Maybe you're turning it the wrong way, fellas. I did that once with a drill.

To which garrett will NEVER let you forget.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 12:20 PM (Zz0t1)

74 60

Which orifice?

Posted by: Ziba at March 11, 2022 12:20 PM (S1hrL)

75 Sharyl Attkisson just tweeted that Trump is going on Joe Rohan's podcast.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 11, 2022 12:21 PM (ptqGC)

76 honestly think the internet, in part, and social media en toto, have RUINED news. NO one gets out anymore. NO one puts foot to the floor. They ALL get their shit off the internet and do NO manual research anymore.

Agreed. Twitter, in particular, has damaged the media.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh. at March 11, 2022 12:21 PM (eGTCV)

77 Bill O'Reilly says Jen Griffin is a good reporter because she gets her information direct from the Pentagon.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 11, 2022 12:18 PM (63Dwl)

Bill O'Reilly is literally a better reporter than Griffin.

The jerk working the drive through at Wendy's who asks if you want fries with that is literally a better reporter than Griffin.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 11, 2022 12:21 PM (6FeV1)

78 hey babe. Heidi says "HI!"
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at March 11, 2022 12:17 PM (XlDSe)

Hello to Heidi! Miss you guys.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 11, 2022 12:21 PM (Ez6QX)

79 Righteous rant, capital A Ace.

Posted by: flounder at March 11, 2022 12:21 PM (SH2Zi)

80 Oh and ammo prices are up, as predicted.
Yay.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 11, 2022 12:21 PM (XvPQV)

81 66 If Ukraine's biolabs exist for the purpose of finding vaccines for livestock diseases, as the State Department claimed yesterday, show us the vaccines it developed.

One.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 11, 2022 12:19 PM (PlR4s)

All lies. The Ukraine govt does not develop vaccines for cattle, people, toads..nothing. All bullshit all the time

Posted by: CN at March 11, 2022 12:21 PM (ONvIw)

82 We've decided we can't handle the truth....cuts into our cash flow.

Posted by: BignJames at March 11, 2022 12:21 PM (AwYPR)

83 You would think any journalist would be righteously pissed off to defer to a 'fact checker', regardless of who it is.

If I were a journalist (spit), I'd find the damn truth myself, thank you very much.

People in power have a nasty habit of lying. Always have, always will.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 11, 2022 12:21 PM (LKTKP)

84 I am sick of one crisis rolling into the next.

well then you better not hear about the DELTACRON variant that's coming to get us.

Posted by: kallisto at March 11, 2022 12:21 PM (Pfe5F)

85 Hilariously, the Nation, itself in the past a very pro-Russia magazine, is now pro-censorship against other news and commentary sites that might be seen as too much pro-Russia.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 11, 2022 12:22 PM (PlR4s)

86 Michael Avenatti now advising Zelenski on how to handle media love fest

Posted by: REDACTED at March 11, 2022 12:22 PM (us2H3)

87 Remember when the left told us that for every terrorist we kill, 100 new ones take their place? So does that work with Russia too? For every business we bankrupt in Russia, does that mean we have 100 new anti-American Russians ready to fuck shit up?

Or nah.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at March 11, 2022 12:22 PM (FlLTu)

88 >>To which garrett will NEVER let you forget.

That whole Shelving adventure was Gold.

Posted by: garrett at March 11, 2022 12:22 PM (lhr6a)

89 Wait, is Max Blumenthal, son of cocksucker Sid, now a trusted source?

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at March 11, 2022 12:22 PM (y7DUB)

90 >>>junkie brains are addled and rotten wit drugs,

Took me a minute.
with --> with

Posted by: m at March 11, 2022 12:22 PM (4vwwZ)

91 Ace - One point that you should consider as you ponder all of this information.

Of all the countries in the world, why is the US funding bioweapon research in Ukraine (ranked as the 3rd most corrupt country worldwide)?

It's a bit like putting your fire research facility inside a gunpowder factory.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 11, 2022 12:22 PM (5p7BC)

92 every news source has an agenda

Posted by: DB - the long train of abuses is back at March 11, 2022 12:23 PM (geLO8)

93 If Ukraine's biolabs exist for the purpose of finding vaccines for livestock diseases

Anthrax is a livestock disease.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 11, 2022 12:23 PM (I2/tG)

94 Now Biden and both factions of the uniparty will steal our monet and say it's "the war". Bastards all.

Posted by: CN at March 11, 2022 12:23 PM (ONvIw)

95 LOL

wit --> with

Posted by: m at March 11, 2022 12:23 PM (4vwwZ)

96 So, this is great - if the funds ultimately get withheld (this was just a recommendation), I expect Poland to open their border with Germany asap, and let the flood of Ukranian refugees go there...

tinyurl.com/nmbrws49

Posted by: Nova local at March 11, 2022 12:23 PM (exHjb)

97 This wasn't a "Bioweapons Program." It was a make-work, no-show-job boondoggle to keep lining people's pockets. No government program is ever truly shut down. It hobbles on forever to keep the money spigot going. This is the same thing I've been screaming about over the gain-of-function funding. It wasn't for any legitimate research. It was to funnel tens of millions of dollars into sketchy programs in foreign countries where 90% of the funds would be stolen. The same thing happened with this "bioweapons" program. I can almost guarantee you the program gobbled up millions and millions of dollars and was probably barely more than a few test-tubes and centrifuges in a dusty old lab.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 11, 2022 12:23 PM (iFTx/)

98 junkie brains are addled and rotten wit drugs,

Took me a minute.
with --> with
Posted by: m at March 11, 2022 12:22 PM (4vwwZ)

He's from Philly.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 11, 2022 12:23 PM (II3Gr)

99 At a minimum, you have to appreciate the irony of Duck Duck Go taking down RT and Sputnik content because it's "disinformation", while the U.S. government and their tech ally's go full Soviet.
Posted by: Marcus T at March 11, 2022 12:19 PM (nkAm6)

Not to go too off topic - but off topic - As discussed here frequently I bailed on DDG during the election - when I could provably show that DDG and goolag were coming up with the same results, while Bing of all engines was at least giving a variety of info.

I've tried a few different search engines - including that Russian one (name escapes me) But have really been liking Ecosia. Fast results and excellent image search. Far better than Brave, Qwant and even DDG in that regard. Highly recommended.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at March 11, 2022 12:23 PM (wAnMi)

100 The question is not whether Ukraine has bio labs - the question is whether the US has been funding research in those labs that would be illegal to do in the US, like it was doing in Wuhan.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 11, 2022 12:14 PM (I2/tG)

It's not that Ukraine has bio-labs, it's that "Ukraine" has bio-labs. Bio-labs which conveniently research things of interest to the US but which the US cannot admit to researching...since, you know, we're a signatory on the ban.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at March 11, 2022 12:24 PM (nR2nR)

101 >>>Of all the countries in the world, why is the US funding bioweapon research in Ukraine (ranked as the 3rd most corrupt country worldwide)?

probably for the make-work for dangerous scientists scheme I suggested, like they did with missile and nuke scientists.

Posted by: Capital-A Ace because damnit I deserve it at March 11, 2022 12:24 PM (0G13K)

102 For every business we bankrupt in Russia, does that mean we have 100 new anti-American Russians ready to fuck shit up?

Yeah, collective punishment is going to work real, real, well. /s

Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 11, 2022 12:24 PM (I2/tG)

103 Ludicrous Covid is next

Posted by: DB - the long train of abuses is back at March 11, 2022 12:24 PM (geLO8)

104 Wait, is Max Blumenthal, son of cocksucker Sid, now a trusted source?
Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at March 11

Is that Sid the troll?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh. at March 11, 2022 12:24 PM (eGTCV)

105 Ace. This whole post said everything. Thanks.
What a terrible situation this country is in.

Posted by: willow at March 11, 2022 12:24 PM (2frzx)

106 84 I am sick of one crisis rolling into the next.

well then you better not hear about the DELTACRON variant that's coming to get us.

Posted by: kallisto at March 11, 2022 12:21 PM (Pfe5F)

That's in September. It gives time to institute a lockdown and have the courts force mandatory unlimited absentee voting for November.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at March 11, 2022 12:24 PM (cupoy)

107 58 thrown into a pile and set on fire

I just stood up and gleefully rubbed my hands together reading that

Posted by: Dogbert at March 11, 2022 12:24 PM (Z9HSN)

108 Imagine my surprise when it dawned on me this wasn't a movie review!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at March 11, 2022 12:24 PM (CjFDo)

109 "I said "since 1991" yesterday, but apparently the US entered this very, very long project to pour bleach on Soviet bioweapons in 2005. Seventeen years ago."

In fairness, the Clintons, and Obamas, and Bidens, and other have used so much bleach "erasing" their foibles and failures that there wasn't enough for the biolabs...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 11, 2022 12:24 PM (ynpvh)

110 103 Ludicrous Covid is next
Posted by: DB - the long train of abuses is back at March 11, 2022 12:24 PM (geLO

Then Plaid

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 11, 2022 12:24 PM (II3Gr)

111 Wait, is Max Blumenthal, son of cocksucker Sid, now a trusted source?
Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at March 11, 2022 12:22 PM (y7DUB)
==============
Heheh...the Putin invasion is turning everything on its head!

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 11, 2022 12:24 PM (PlR4s)

112 And again, these labs were directly funded by funneling money through Hunter Biden's and John Kerry's stepson's company.

Slush fund.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 11, 2022 12:24 PM (LKTKP)

113 >>> 65 Google is now censoring Oliver Stone movies -- at the request of the US Government.
I hate Oliver Stone myself. But is that where the Patriots and Defenders of Democracy are now -- censoring movies made by annoying opposition iconoclasts?

John Nolte has said many times that while he disagrees with everything Oliver Stone stands for , he crafts his films well and Stone is one of his fave living filmmakers.

The idea that the left is going to at some point censor a beloved artistic lapdog is not surprising, that is how totalitarianism rolls. I'm just amazed at how in your face it all is. I hope it red pills Stone, but that might be a bridge too far.

Posted by: LizLem at March 11, 2022 12:25 PM (DSEwP)

114 Lies upon lies upon lies. Misdirection...equivocation.
Meanwhile every friend I have is screaming, not yelling, not even complaining, but screaming about the cost of filling up their car this week.
Keep winding up that rubber band government...keep it up. It's gonna snap and you will not like it. At all.

PS...nice historical drill reference.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 11, 2022 12:25 PM (axyOa)

115 I stand behind the Ukulaliens.

Posted by: wth at March 11, 2022 12:25 PM (v0R5T)

116 Had a local town ballot question that was environmental in nature. The green people supported their position via use of the "fact sheet," and when you finally got to the place where the fact sheet could be read it was just a bunch of assertions by some governmental board in California (our town is very far from CA) with pretty pictures and no data or links or anything to back up the claims.

My conclusion: fact sheets are more sheet than fact.

Posted by: Lex at March 11, 2022 12:25 PM (hjJh7)

117 Now Biden and both factions of the uniparty will steal our monet and say it's "the war". Bastards all.
Posted by: CN at March 11, 2022 12:23 PM (ONvIw)

Oh hell no. Steal the Pissarro, even the Cassatt. But our Monet? Fuck you!

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at March 11, 2022 12:25 PM (wAnMi)

118 Had it not been for the Putin stole the election for Trump shit, nobody would care about Putin. But the left was in a Salem like fever about Putin for 5 years. He is the Devil and must be destroyed at all cost.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at March 11, 2022 12:26 PM (FlLTu)

119 Now that "Gutfelds"been put on the shelf for awhile, Fox is pretty much unwatchable.

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at March 11, 2022 12:26 PM (SVUeu)

120 Good news everyone...I used DDG to check on US government lies and, apparently, there aren't any so...false alarm, I guess.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at March 11, 2022 12:26 PM (nR2nR)

121 Then Plaid
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 11, 2022 12:24 PM (II3Gr)

Ha, beat me to it.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 11, 2022 12:26 PM (Ez6QX)

122 I have come to reflexively disbelieve anything put out by our government, especially concerning a cesspit where they launder their ill-gotten gains and enrich their patrons. That's their doing.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 11, 2022 12:26 PM (SH2Zi)

123 I'm stocking up on Stoli, caviar, and diamonds today...

Posted by: Ziba at March 11, 2022 12:26 PM (S1hrL)

124 Then Plaid
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 11, 2022 12:24 PM (II3Gr)

Smoke 'em if you got 'em!

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at March 11, 2022 12:26 PM (wAnMi)

125 Sharyl Attkisson just tweeted that Trump is going on Joe Rohan's podcast.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
----
FWIW, Trump is running in 2024.

I have a book that he published after he left office and the message on the last page is pretty clear that he will run.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 11, 2022 12:27 PM (5p7BC)

126 >>John Nolte has said many times that while he disagrees with everything Oliver Stone stands for , he crafts his films well and Stone is one of his fave living filmmakers.

agree- JFK is pure nonsense, but as a movie it's interesting and very well done

Posted by: DB - the long train of abuses is back at March 11, 2022 12:27 PM (geLO8)

127
Pretty incredible how COVID is totally gone...

Gone from any media coverage, they moved right on to the next thing.

I am guessing that after Trump successfully used social media to get over, that the Dems and Repubs and the monolith bureaucracy insterted thousands of employees with strict guidelines into the media outlets.

Thousands. Maybe tens, or hundreds...it would probably take a lot to control all of that, as well as maintain project management and corporate messaging.

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at March 11, 2022 12:27 PM (XnbJC)

128 I feel like getting a handle of cheap whiskey and a carton of Camel nonfilters and consuming it all in one day.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 11, 2022 12:27 PM (II3Gr)

129 110 103 Ludicrous Covid is next
Posted by: DB - the long train of abuses is back at March 11, 2022 12:24 PM (geLO

Then Plaid

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 11, 2022 12:24 PM (II3Gr)

The Schwartz is with this one.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 11, 2022 12:27 PM (ynpvh)

130 You're living through it.

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic at March 11, 2022 12:28 PM (kfMzr)

131 Bravo ACE.. A long read but worth it

Posted by: It's me donna at March 11, 2022 12:28 PM (J8ILO)

132 Wait, is Max Blumenthal, son of cocksucker Sid, now a trusted source?
Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at March 11

Is that Sid the troll?
Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh. at March 11, 2022 12:24 PM (eGTCV)

No, the human pinworm who used to get Rodham drunk and tell her the most outlandish conspiracy dogshit, which the dense cunt believed lock stock and barrel.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at March 11, 2022 12:28 PM (y7DUB)

133 Outstanding post, Ace!

I'm gonna read it again and then save it.

Posted by: Pony Tail at March 11, 2022 12:28 PM (tzZq2)

134 It makes me weary, all of the corruption and lies and greed. But that's what they want, all of us to just lay down for a much-needed respite then they do worse while we're trying to enjoy life.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 11, 2022 12:28 PM (DcKNO)

135 Sharyl Attkisson just tweeted that Trump is going on Joe Rohan's podcast.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 11, 2022 12:21 PM (ptqGC)
==================
Rogan will do a great interview. I'm looking forward to this one.

Can you imagine if Biden went on Rogan? For an hour or more? Holy cow, what a train wreck that would be.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 11, 2022 12:28 PM (PlR4s)

136 Why is Gutfeld on the shelf? They were afraid they were making that other late night hosts look too ridiculous? He was killing it in the ratings.

Posted by: LizLem at March 11, 2022 12:28 PM (DSEwP)

137 I'm stocking up on Stoli, caviar, and diamonds today...
Posted by: Ziba at March 11, 2022 12:26 PM (S1hrL)
.........

I think my Mail Order Bride is stuck in Poland.

Posted by: wth at March 11, 2022 12:28 PM (v0R5T)

138 "I no longer expect the US government to behave with morality or honor. But can it lie with something approaching everyday-joe intelligence?"

I will return to my dog-eared Adams and Washington quotes:

"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." --John Adams

"Let us raise a standard to which the wise and honest can repair; the rest is in the hands of God." -- G Washington

This country will fall if we keep electing amoral people whose only standard for behavior is either not getting caught, erecting an impenetrable fortress of deniability, or deflecting blame to someone else whose behavior is worse than their own. Wrap it up. Put a bow on it. Bury it. We're done.

Unless...

Posted by: red speck at March 11, 2022 12:29 PM (gS3OW)

139 86 Michael Avenatti now advising Zelenski on how to handle media love fest
Posted by: REDACTED at March 11, 2022 12:22 PM (us2H3)
I was initially very offended by CTH calling Zelensky the next Avenatti. Now, I am not. I still wonder why he stiffed Biden and did not jet out, fortune in fist. Did his oligarchs say "no", did he really think he'd get a better deal by holding out, did he think we'd risk nuclear strikes over his country? Is he a CIA operative of some sort, or just a WEF fellow?

Posted by: CN at March 11, 2022 12:29 PM (ONvIw)

140 The question is not whether Ukraine has bio labs - the question is whether the US has been funding research in those labs that would be illegal to do in the US, like it was doing in Wuhan.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 11, 2022 12:14 PM (I2/tG)

It would be the ultimate irony if there's truth to the story Putin has asked the UN to look at the evidence he's collected on these biolabs. And there was actually something to it! I'd break a rib from laughing - and sadly it would make a lot of sense looking at the panic coming from the swamp.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at March 11, 2022 12:29 PM (wAnMi)

141 Bill O'Reilly says Jen Griffin is a good reporter because she gets her information direct from the Pentagon.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 11, 2022 12:18 PM (63Dwl)

When you do no research on your own and take as fact everything written on a sheet labeled "FACTS," you're NOT a good reporter.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 12:29 PM (Zz0t1)

142 Had it not been for the Putin stole the election for Trump shit, nobody would care about Putin. But the left was in a Salem like fever about Putin for 5 years. He is the Devil and must be destroyed at all cost.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at March 11, 2022 12:26 PM (FlLTu)
++++
I respectfully disagree. The Russia hatred was well underway, which is why I think they used Russia to run their anti-Trump op. The real start, IMO, was the adoption (child trafficking) reform.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 11, 2022 12:29 PM (DU+/6)

143 Alabama and if we're going to help knock off the Ukrainians for dealing with American bio weapon freaks like fauci Biden and company. Shouldn't the attack also include America?
It's the hypocrisy that's driving me up the wall.

Posted by: willow at March 11, 2022 12:29 PM (2frzx)

144 I think my Mail Order Bride is stuck in Poland.
Posted by: wth at March 11, 2022 12:28 PM (v0R5T)

Other way 'round

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 11, 2022 12:29 PM (II3Gr)

145 I agree. After all DC and the Davos boys are seizing Russian assets

One Russian asset they're not seizing...

Joseph Robinette Biden.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Cryptid Anarchist at March 11, 2022 12:29 PM (2NSDu)

146 119 Now that "Gutfelds"been put on the shelf for awhile, Fox is pretty much unwatchable.
Posted by: Shooter McGavin at March 11, 2022 12:26 PM (SVUeu)

I love Gutfeld and miss his late nite show... Tucker is good though

Posted by: It's me donna at March 11, 2022 12:29 PM (J8ILO)

147 The powers-that-be are seeking to keep Cawthorn from running for office, because 'insurrectionist':

"The challenge was first brought by a group of liberal activists and voters in January but derailed because of the drawing of new congressional districts. The voters said Cawthorn engaged in insurrection Jan. 6, 2021, and therefore was banned by the 14th Amendment from holding office."

That's from the local Gannett rag. Note the use of 'voters', apparently, that is supposed to lend legitimacy to the issue.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 11, 2022 12:29 PM (9Fwwf)

148 I'm stocking up on Stoli, caviar, and diamonds today...
Posted by: Ziba at March 11, 2022 12:26 PM (S1hrL)
.........

I think my Mail Order Bride is stuck in Poland.

Posted by: wth at March 11, 2022 12:28 PM (v0R5T)

You can take the mail order bride out of Poland, but you can't take the Pole out of the mail order bride.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 11, 2022 12:30 PM (SH2Zi)

149 Believe NOTHING you hear from this Junta and believe only HALF of what you see from this Junta.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at March 11, 2022 12:20 PM (FlLTu)

https://youtu.be/r7T6x0cl48Q

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at March 11, 2022 12:30 PM (nR2nR)

150

That whole Shelving adventure was Gold.
Posted by: garrett at March 11, 2022 12:22 PM (lhr6a)

It IS that way on my fact sheet.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 12:30 PM (Zz0t1)

151 >This country will fall if we keep electing amoral people

the real problem is, we let idiots and stupid people vote

Posted by: DB - the long train of abuses is back at March 11, 2022 12:30 PM (geLO8)

152 FWIW, Trump is running in 2024.

I have a book that he published after he left office and the message on the last page is pretty clear that he will run.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 11, 2022 12:27 PM (5p7BC)
.......

I hope he tears DC a new asshole.

Posted by: wth at March 11, 2022 12:30 PM (v0R5T)

153 "Parrots of the God State" perfect phrase

Sometimes I read the secondary reading, here at AoS called "the content".

;D

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 11, 2022 12:30 PM (44ww/)

154 >>> 75 Sharyl Attkisson just tweeted that Trump is going on Joe Rohan's podcast.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 11, 2022 12:21 PM (ptqGC)

Someone said that after the left tried to cancel him, Rogan's revenge should be to book even more controversial guests the left loathes. Push their rage tears to 11.

This'll do it! It will be like Christmas.

Posted by: LizLem at March 11, 2022 12:30 PM (DSEwP)

155 So...how many biolabs do we have around the world for this kind of research? I know of Wuhan and Ukraine now...

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 11, 2022 12:31 PM (ynpvh)

156 Posted by: willow at March 11, 2022 12:29 PM (2frzx)

Willow sighting!

*checks front page*

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 11, 2022 12:31 PM (SH2Zi)

157 How many journalists do you actually trust anymore? Can you count more than your ten fingers?

I trust Mollie, Sean Davis, Julie Kelly, Margo Cleveland, and Chris Rufo. That's about it.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 11, 2022 12:31 PM (XSRBF)

158 Bill O'Reilly says Jen Griffin is a good reporter because she gets her information direct from the Pentagon.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 11, 2022 12:18 PM (63Dwl)

If you unquestioningly repeat lies furnished by lying cocksuckers, does that not automatically make you a lying cocksucker?

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 11, 2022 12:31 PM (II3Gr)

159 Alex Berenson is great on COVID lies, but he published a post today called "Don't be a useful idiot"
"No, the United States wasn't funding bioweapons research in Ukraine; this was part of a long-running effort to pay off ex-Soviet scientists so they wouldn't take their talents to South Tehran."

Most people would be fine with this, it's just the timelines given don't add up with this simple explanation of giving ex-Soviet bio/chem warfare agent researchers make-work so they don't go working for other hostile regimes. And questioning this, given the US government's recent lies and their chancery in Ukraine from 2005-2014-on, doesn't make us "Putin stooges" or "useful idiots".

Posted by: Thrawn at March 11, 2022 12:31 PM (Rl7KJ)

160 Covid ain't gone.

Ride a school bus, go to school in Chicago, walk into a hospital, an air terminal, a Southwest flight.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at March 11, 2022 12:31 PM (g/Gtk)

161 (well, supposedly, it came from a bat that flew 1000 miles from its cave to mate with a pangolin in the wet market)

You are twisting this to make it sound ridiculous. Look this is all very common. The pangolin ordered a large sausage pizza. The bat delivered the pizza but the pangolin didn't have the money to pay for it. One thing led to another. This happens all the time. We have dozens of examples on our computers here. It happens every day. Sometimes there's two pangolins and one bat, sometimes the pangolin has to pay the pizza guy and the movers and the landlord all at once. This is all standard procedure.

Posted by: The CDC at March 11, 2022 12:31 PM (cupoy)

162 This country will fall if we keep electing amoral people

the real problem is, we let idiots and stupid people vote
Posted by: DB - the long train of abuses is back at March 11, 2022 12:30 PM (geLO

How do we break the cycle of endless corruption in high office?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh. at March 11, 2022 12:31 PM (eGTCV)

163 Howdy Ace, Horde,

If we're all Russian agents, we get sweet discounts on vodka and caviar, right?
Asking for a friend.

Great point about junkies and our current horrors.

Posted by: callsign claymore at March 11, 2022 12:32 PM (rrwaB)

164 The only thing here , if true, is the embarrassment factor, we might have signed some convention or other and got caught,

Posted by: runner at March 11, 2022 12:32 PM (eXZrW)

165 Bill Barr hopes his book will put an end to Trump, once and for all. Mean temperament = mean tweets to foreign leaders!

Posted by: Ziba at March 11, 2022 12:32 PM (S1hrL)

166 the Fourteenth is a Reconstruction-era amendment and clearly was concerned with former rebels and confederates who waged war

Posted by: DB - the long train of abuses is back at March 11, 2022 12:32 PM (geLO8)

167 136 Why is Gutfeld on the shelf? They were afraid they were making that other late night hosts look too ridiculous? He was killing it in the ratings.

I think they mothballed him to offer more Ukraine coverage. But now that the Ukraine: Plucky Patriots/Putin: Evil Villain/USA!! USA! narrative is falling apart, they'd do well to break him back out again.

Posted by: red speck at March 11, 2022 12:32 PM (gS3OW)

168
If you unquestioningly repeat lies furnished by lying cocksuckers, does that not automatically make you a lying cocksucker?
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 11, 2022 12:31 PM (II3Gr)

It makes you sucker of lying cocksucker cock.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 12:32 PM (Zz0t1)

169 130 You're living through it.
Posted by: Last Days of the Republic at March 11, 2022 12:28 PM (kfMzr)

Actually, you're soaking in it...

Posted by: zombie Madge at March 11, 2022 12:32 PM (BgMrQ)

170 141 Bill O'Reilly says Jen Griffin is a good reporter because she gets her information direct from the Pentagon.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 11, 2022 12:18 PM (63Dwl)

When you do no research on your own and take as fact everything written on a sheet labeled "FACTS," you're NOT a good reporter.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 12:29 PM (Zz0t1)

I got my facts from the fax

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 11, 2022 12:32 PM (ynpvh)

171 Hello flounder.

Posted by: willow at March 11, 2022 12:33 PM (2frzx)

172 Exhibiting skepticism toward the lies of known lying cocksuckers who lie and suck cock makes you a Putin stooge.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 11, 2022 12:33 PM (II3Gr)

173 Covid ain't gone.

Ride a school bus, go to school in Chicago, walk into a hospital, an air terminal, a Southwest flight.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at March 11, 2022 12:31 PM (g/Gtk)

Work at an airport.

*sad*

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 11, 2022 12:33 PM (Ez6QX)

174 Posted by: CN at March 11, 2022 12:29 PM (ONvIw)

Ukraine is as corrupt as tthe Mob

and good guys don't head up the Mob

Posted by: REDACTED at March 11, 2022 12:33 PM (us2H3)

175 Trump can't be enough of a wrecking ball.

Not unless he moves every three letter agency to a big rectangular state permanently.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 11, 2022 12:33 PM (44ww/)

176 >>>I trust Mollie, Sean Davis, Julie Kelly, Margo Cleveland, and Chris Rufo. That's about it.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 11, 2022 12:31 PM (XSRBF)

Wow, you do ace like that.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at March 11, 2022 12:33 PM (QYPq3)

177 166 the Fourteenth is a Reconstruction-era amendment and clearly was concerned with former rebels and confederates who waged war

Posted by: DB - the long train of abuses is back at March 11, 2022 12:32 PM (geLO

Although the Dems have been involved in a continual insurrection against the Constitution since then, so they should all be banned from office STAT!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 11, 2022 12:33 PM (ynpvh)

178 Bill O'Reilly says Jen Griffin is a good reporter because she gets her information direct from the Pentagon.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 11, 2022 12:18 PM (63Dwl)

When you do no research on your own and take as fact everything written on a sheet labeled "FACTS," you're NOT a good reporter.
Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 12:29 PM (Zz0t1)
***

I will bet 50 Quatloos that the Pentagon Public Affairs group has taken Griffin aside, gave her a "special" badge, took her to a double locked room, maybe even posted an MP or two for show, and then gave her their talking points. All theater, all show. Designed to make her feel like she was on the inside. Getting the real scoop!
Fool.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 11, 2022 12:33 PM (axyOa)

179 I'm a good journalist! I get all my facts straight from Jen Psaki! She is the mouthpiece for Biden, what she says must be true.

Oh, and shut up Bill O'Reilly.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 11, 2022 12:33 PM (DcKNO)

180 Posted by: willow at March 11, 2022 12:29 PM (2frzx)

WILLOW!!!!!!

(New thread....QUICK!)

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 12:33 PM (Zz0t1)

181 Bill Clinton called, we had these bioweapon fears when the USSR collapsed.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 11, 2022 12:33 PM (zfICL)

182 I agree 100% that there is no reason to believe anything our government says, including anything from their stenographers aka mainstream media. The US does research in country on vaccines and countermeasures for bioweapons. That doesn't bother me, and there isn't a need to do it in Ukraine. We aren't developing bioweapons, but the fact that the government also claims that of course can make people suspect (but we don't). However I do have concern about countries anywhere doing bioweapon research. Because they aren't in control of the bioweapon once it is released. Anthrax, sure, not a problem. But if it is highly transmissible, it doesn't matter if they intended to release it on us, we'll see it. I think this is probably another secret Fauci site and that is what they are afraid of and why they are lying to us.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at March 11, 2022 12:34 PM (YQ4mh)

183 I have a Fact Sheet here you're going to want to pay attention to.

Posted by: Jen Psaki, POOTUS Spokes-stain at March 11, 2022 12:34 PM (PlR4s)

184 Bill Barr hopes his book will put an end to Trump,

Good luck with that Billy boy... Go play your Bagpipes

Posted by: It's me donna at March 11, 2022 12:34 PM (J8ILO)

185 "It's not my biolab, I'm holding it for a friend!"

Posted by: callsign claymore at March 11, 2022 12:34 PM (rrwaB)

186 Why is Gutfeld on the shelf? They were afraid they were making that other late night hosts look too ridiculous? He was killing it in the ratings.
Posted by: LizLem at March 11, 2022 12:28 PM (DSEwP)

I know he said he was stepping aside to allow fox to push the 24/7 propaganda instead of only having 23/7 (well, 22/7 counting Tucker). But also, his MiL was displaced in the Ukraine, so he's actually got some skin in the game as far as who to root for. I doubt they'd actually pull the show - sounds at least for the moment that he's on board with this, and considering the time slot it sort of makes sense. Still, this is when he's most needed I would think (I cut the cord years ago so no idea TBH).

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at March 11, 2022 12:34 PM (wAnMi)

187 When you do no research on your own and take as fact everything written on a sheet labeled "FACTS," you're NOT a good reporter.
Posted by: Sponge
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Our reporting is not based on 'Fact Sheets'. We use only bona-fide, verified, Press Releases from our Democrat benefactors.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 11, 2022 12:34 PM (9Fwwf)

188 165 Bill Barr hopes his book will put an end to Trump, once and for all. Mean temperament = mean tweets to foreign leaders!
Posted by: Ziba at March 11, 2022 12:32 PM (S1hrL)

He looks like a walking cardiac event.

Posted by: CN at March 11, 2022 12:34 PM (ONvIw)

189 173 Covid ain't gone.

Ride a school bus, go to school in Chicago, walk into a hospital, an air terminal, a Southwest flight.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at March 11, 2022 12:31 PM (g/Gtk)

Work at an airport.

*sad*

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 11, 2022 12:33 PM (Ez6QX)

Went to Doctor's office yesterday...had to wear a mask.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 11, 2022 12:34 PM (ynpvh)

190 Hello flounder.

Posted by: willow at March 11, 2022 12:33 PM (2frzx)

I hope you are well and OK. Good to see you around these parts.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 11, 2022 12:35 PM (SH2Zi)

191 Madge is dead?!

Posted by: wth at March 11, 2022 12:35 PM (v0R5T)

192 If it really was Bio-Defense than that should be kept at home at Fort Dietrich.

Not out-sourced to a foreign country.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 11, 2022 12:35 PM (zfICL)

193 Our reporting is...

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Crap, forgot NPR sock.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 11, 2022 12:35 PM (9Fwwf)

194 Went to Doctor's office yesterday...had to wear a mask.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 11, 2022 12:34 PM (ynpvh)

Masks today, masks tomorrow, masks forever!

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 11, 2022 12:35 PM (II3Gr)

195 I also just have to say: What Willow said.

I HATE that the average Ukranian is going to suffer because of _our_ treasonous communist mandarins' bullshit. And that Putin is going to be able to leverage our traitor's corruption against us.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Cryptid Anarchist at March 11, 2022 12:35 PM (2NSDu)

196 I'm not willowed yet am I?

Posted by: willow at March 11, 2022 12:35 PM (2frzx)

197 162

If this country hasn't already fallen, what do you call this now?

Posted by: Ziba at March 11, 2022 12:36 PM (S1hrL)

198 --------

Our reporting is not based on 'Fact Sheets'. We use only bona-fide, verified, Press Releases from our Democrat benefactors.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 11, 2022 12:34 PM (9Fwwf)

Oh, well THAT'S DIFFERENT.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 12:36 PM (Zz0t1)

199 Oh, and shut up Bill O'Reilly.
Posted by: Seems Legit at March 11, 2022 12:33 PM (DcKNO)

Is he out of prison already? How time flies. I would think he'd just stick with selling auto parts at this stage of his life.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at March 11, 2022 12:36 PM (wAnMi)

200 Zelenski will eventually be tossed by his own peeps

he was at 27% jast year in a poll

the George Bush was at 90+ % right after the first gulf war

he lost to a whoremongrel (h/t juicy)

Posted by: REDACTED at March 11, 2022 12:36 PM (us2H3)

201 We aren't developing bioweapons, but the fact that the government also claims that of course can make people suspect (but we don't).

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at March 11, 2022 12:34 PM (YQ4mh)

IME, that is a leap of faith. I can't do that.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 11, 2022 12:36 PM (SH2Zi)

202 Madge is dead?!
Posted by: wth at March 11, 2022 12:35 PM (v0R5T)

She soaked in it for the last time?

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 12:36 PM (Zz0t1)

203 195. Yep

Posted by: willow at March 11, 2022 12:37 PM (2frzx)

204 How do we break the cycle of endless corruption in high office?
Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh. at March 11, 2022 12:31 PM (eGTCV)

You won't like the answer.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 11, 2022 12:37 PM (II3Gr)

205 185 "It's not my biolab, I'm holding it for a friend!"

Posted by: callsign claymore at March 11, 2022 12:34 PM (rrwaB)

I'm a fool to do your dirty work
Oh yeah
I don't wanna do your dirty work
No more
I'm a fool to do your dirty work
Oh yeah

Posted by: Steely Dan at March 11, 2022 12:37 PM (ynpvh)

206 And that Putin is going to be able to leverage our traitor's corruption against us.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Cryptid Anarchist at March 11, 2022 12:35 PM (2NSDu)

This is why it ALL needs to come out, everthing ugly and duplicitous. Liberte, egalite, fraternite, needs to come to most of the West. Down with the oligarchs and their hired hands in Western government.

Posted by: CN at March 11, 2022 12:37 PM (ONvIw)

207 Went to Doctor's office yesterday...had to wear a mask.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at March 11, 2022 12:34 PM (ynpvh)

They just extended the airport mandate another month. We're all very unhappy.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 11, 2022 12:37 PM (Ez6QX)

208 Saw Max Boot on Tucker the other night, and was disappointed and shocked that Tucker just let him go on and on about Russia collusion in 2016 without challenging him. Much more evidence of Ukraine colluding with the Clinton campaign than any Russian interference.

Posted by: Tofer732 at March 11, 2022 12:37 PM (GcxM3)

209 Part of me says Trump should run, because we desperately need a rectification of names. "Justice" especially. But another part of me says Trump should play golf and be celebrated for having been right about everything. He's too old to be President.

Don't know yet where I come down.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 11, 2022 12:37 PM (PlR4s)

210 Wuhan lab is supposedly a lab just for researching viruses to learn how to cure them. But strangely enough, it cooked up a virus that killed six million people and shut down the world for two years.

Supposedly that just leaked out accidentally (well, supposedly, it came from a bat that flew 1000 miles from its cave to mate with a pangolin in the wet market), but the only thing that makes a biological agent a biological weapon is intent. - Ace

Ace - that alone was worth reading the entire post. Brilliant work, Sir.

Posted by: mrp at March 11, 2022 12:37 PM (6eRlp)

211 If this country hasn't already fallen, what do you call this now?

Posted by: Ziba at March 11, 2022 12:36 PM (S1hrL)

The ritualized humiliation and demoralization phase. Don't let the bastards grind you down. Know you are right and that your cause is righteous.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 11, 2022 12:37 PM (SH2Zi)

212 Flounder. Other than Toasted by our countries fall?
I'm ok lol

Posted by: willow at March 11, 2022 12:37 PM (2frzx)

213 Epic post, Ace!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 11, 2022 12:38 PM (P3gRi)

214 I'm your anthrax man
Stop me as I'm passin' by
See now all my pathogens
Are guaranteed to satisfy

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 11, 2022 12:38 PM (II3Gr)

215 I've been reading this blog literally since 2007. I've seen many posts which motivated me to fight for freedom, or dashed my hopes, or gave me deep seated feelings the union of states could not go on. This post does all three more so than any I've read before. The continuous stream of lies we are told, and censoring of any question of them is like a doomsday clock for enslavement striking midnight in my mind.

Posted by: mikethemoose at March 11, 2022 12:38 PM (T/vhV)

216 Posted by: REDACTED at March 11, 2022 12:36 PM (us2H3)

he'll be lucky if he's just "tossed"

Posted by: CN at March 11, 2022 12:38 PM (ONvIw)

217 Ben Rhodes over-estimated the intelligence of today's journalists.

Posted by: Gref at March 11, 2022 12:38 PM (AMIL/)

218 Yeah, I watched "Tucker Carlson Tonight" last night. Not only did he not mention Jennifer Griffin by name, he didn't say "even on this network."

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 11, 2022 12:38 PM (lKAqb)

219 We aren't developing bioweapons, but the fact that the government also claims that of course can make people suspect (but we don't).

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at March 11, 2022 12:34 PM (YQ4mh)

In Fauci they trusted and he's been using tax money to fund bioweapons for YEARS.

Don't fool yourself. We're just as big a part as any other country.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 12:38 PM (Zz0t1)

220 191 Madge is dead?!
Posted by: wth at March 11, 2022 12:35 PM (v0R5T)

I can only assume so, since she was well into middle age when those damn commercials ran.

I took a little artistic license...

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at March 11, 2022 12:39 PM (BgMrQ)

221 >>> I think they mothballed him to offer more Ukraine coverage. But now that the Ukraine: Plucky Patriots/Putin: Evil Villain/USA!! USA! narrative is falling apart, they'd do well to break him back out again. Posted by: red speck at March 11, 2022 12:32 PM (gS3OW)

I hope so. I realize his show is a comedy show, but with his wife being Russian he might actually have a better take on this than the Fox hosts pretending they understand what's going on. Better than most.

Who needs pressing Ukraine coverage at 11:30 at night so bad you cancel the comedy show? You leave a vacuum for idiots like Colbert to spew the dumb with no pushback. I don't get Fox execs.

Posted by: LizLem at March 11, 2022 12:39 PM (DSEwP)

222 You won't like the answer.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 11, 2022 12:37 PM (II3Gr)

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Is a hint: "french revolution?"

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 11, 2022 12:39 PM (DcKNO)

223 Sheryl Atkisson.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 11, 2022 12:14 PM (89T5c)
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thanks!

Posted by: Darth Randall at March 11, 2022 12:39 PM (3TihK)

224 161 You are twisting this to make it sound ridiculous. Look this is all very common...

The bat mistook pepperoni for sausage and yada yada yada two years to flatten the curve and the BJ queen of DC is in charge of fixing the Russia/Ukraine crisis.

Posted by: red speck at March 11, 2022 12:39 PM (gS3OW)

225 Seeing as how all of us just lost 2 years of our lives (and an election) to a lab leak, I'd say this is an important topic.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 11, 2022 12:39 PM (jTmQV)

226 I'm a fool to do your dirty work
Oh yeah
I don't wanna do your dirty work
No more
I'm a fool to do your dirty work
Oh yeah

Posted by: Steely Dan at March 11, 2022 12:37 PM (ynpvh)

Nevermore shall I return
Escape these caves of ice
For I have dined on honey dew
And drunk the milk of Paradise

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 11, 2022 12:39 PM (SH2Zi)

227
Ludicrous Covid is next
Posted by: DB - the long train of abuses is back

I heard on the radio last night that a new variant has shown up. It's a mashup of Delta and Omicron. They call it Deltacron. (Not making this up)

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 11, 2022 12:39 PM (63Dwl)

228
IME, that is a leap of faith. I can't do that.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 11, 2022 12:36 PM (SH2Zi

Of course we are. And the NIH is paying for it. You don't make new diseases (gain of function) just so you can make new vaccines.

Posted by: CN at March 11, 2022 12:40 PM (ONvIw)

229 I went to daily Mass today and all of the parochial school children were in attendance.

All masked up.

Sheesh.

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 11, 2022 12:40 PM (lKAqb)

230 Saw Max Boot on Tucker the other night, and was disappointed and shocked that Tucker just let him go on and on about Russia collusion in 2016 without challenging him. Much more evidence of Ukraine colluding with the Clinton campaign than any Russian interference.
Posted by: Tofer732 at March 11, 2022 12:37 PM (GcxM3)
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I didn't see that, but Tucker seems pretty clearly hoping Tulsi Gabbard runs. He quotes her all the time, and publicizes her appearances avidly.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 11, 2022 12:40 PM (PlR4s)

231 So you lie, lie, lie, if for no other reason than just to keep in practice.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 11, 2022 12:17 PM (6FeV1)

Well, we've found out that dems cheat even in primary elections so "just to keep in practice" seems to be a thing with them.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 11, 2022 12:40 PM (nC+QA)

232 Next we will be told: our bio tech is not rape-rape of the biological world

Posted by: Dogbert at March 11, 2022 12:40 PM (Z9HSN)

233 I heard on the radio last night that a new variant has shown up. It's a mashup of Delta and Omicron. They call it Deltacron. (Not making this up)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 11, 2022 12:39 PM (63Dwl)

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Holy shit, they won't give this nonsense up.

Must be lucrative to the right people.

Also, we are not the right people.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 11, 2022 12:40 PM (DcKNO)

234 NASA put out a tweet about respecting people's pronouns. The first several responses was "We're not going back to the moon are we?"

We are not now that strength which in old days
Moved earth and heaven, that which we are, we are,
One equal temper of heroic hearts,
Made weak by time and fate, but strong in will
To strive, to seek, to find, and not to yield.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 11, 2022 12:40 PM (44ww/)

235 Masks today, masks tomorrow, masks forever!
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 11, 2022 12:35 PM (II3Gr)

I went to my taqueria yesterday for some yummy street tacos. Everybody who was White or Asian (not counting the workers) was wearing a mask. Every single damn Mexican (quite a few) were maskless. One Karen was having a real difficult time with that - and me. She was jumpy as a cat on acid, and acting like the soda bottles and to-go bag were going to bite her. Using napkins to pick shit up with. She was twitching like crazy and jumping away if anybody got within that magic 6' radius. Fucking pathetic.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at March 11, 2022 12:41 PM (wAnMi)

236 >>>How do we break the cycle of endless corruption in high office?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again.

Term limits, but they will never vote for their demise. The Founders never meant politics to be a career.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 11, 2022 12:41 PM (XSRBF)

237 Tucker is right, the reporters who 'fact checked' these were full of shit.

The other side of the coin, though, is that it was never a secret that we funded labs in Ukraine. And about 150 others in 20 other countries. Many of these are part of the network of labs doing stupid shit funded by the likes of Fauci. I suspect Ace lacks the full context on this, and why these are both not what people are freaking out about, yet also worse at the same time.

I suspect that Tucks is in fact not a lone, un-bought holdout at Fox, and that he's getting paid - for three goals. 1, distract from the NIH's role in dodgy overseas Wuhan-style funding. 2/3, draw a subset of conservatives into a bunch of tinfoil shit and created a distraction from other issues, which seems to be working great.

Alternatively, maybe he's just been set up by people feeding him shit.

On the Russian end - declaring stuff you know is partly true and then having the western left deny it because they lie about *everything* is a pretty consistent winner. China is a master of this.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at March 11, 2022 12:41 PM (0BW5E)

238 I respectfully disagree. The Russia hatred was well underway, which is why I think they used Russia to run their anti-Trump op. The real start, IMO, was the adoption (child trafficking) reform.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 11, 2022 12:29 PM (DU+/6)
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Hating on Russia comes and goes seemingly according to the tides. It wasn't long ago when Prez Obama and Secy of State Clinton were totally botching their Russian "reset." They were on their hands and knees Kamaling Putin. They laughed at Romney for correctly pointing out that Russia was a major threat. Then Oceania was at war with Eurasia. Now Russia and Putin are all-purpose boogeymen for whatever fetish the left has at the moment.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 11, 2022 12:41 PM (iFTx/)

239 the Fourteenth is a Reconstruction-era amendment and clearly was concerned with former rebels and confederates who waged war
Posted by: DB
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It's a variety of lawfare. It speaks to the absurdity of the 'Insurrection' narrative/prosecutions.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 11, 2022 12:41 PM (ELgVT)

240 This wasn't a "Bioweapons Program." It was a make-work, no-show-job boondoggle to keep lining people's pockets.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 11, 2022 12:23 PM (iFTx/)

The Russian MoD got their hands on the literal receipts, and marveled that the US must hold Ukraine in total contempt for how little they were paying the staff.

Now, I know that's a sign of serious corruption, and you know that, but in that case wtf was Nuland talking about the other day? Why is the Biden regime insisting that Putin is about to unleash the WMDs?

I'll tell you why. Zelensky is in a desperate situation, and he definitely thinks a bioweapon attack blamed on Russia might spark NATO intervention. But here's the thing about that: Putin won't believe it. Russia's clear policy is to hold any such escalation against America, and Putin has repeatedly promised that any extreme Russian actions like WMD attacks won't start with Ukraine. It will start against the elites responsible for the conflict. In America.

So it's okay to not care about Russian or Ukrainian bioweapons: that's quite reasonable. But you'd better hope you're nowhere near a major American city if one goes off.

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2022 12:41 PM (Eqkqm)

241 Flounder. Other than Toasted by our countries fall?
I'm ok lol

Posted by: willow at March 11, 2022 12:37 PM (2frzx)

Then you are home.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 11, 2022 12:41 PM (SH2Zi)

242 I heard on the radio last night that a new variant has shown up. It's a mashup of Delta and Omicron. They call it Deltacron. (Not making this up)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 11, 2022 12:39 PM (63Dwl)

I could've sword we had that already, a few months ago.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 11, 2022 12:41 PM (Ez6QX)

243 "You're soaking in it."

"Ancient Chinese secret, huh?"

"You sank my battleship!"

"You got your chocolate in my peanut butter!"

"Walkin' digger, mom!"

I miss 1970s cheese. They don't make 'em like they used to.

Posted by: red speck at March 11, 2022 12:41 PM (gS3OW)

244 I heard on the radio last night that a new variant has shown up. It's a mashup of Delta and Omicron. They call it Deltacron. (Not making this up)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 11, 2022 12:39 PM (63Dwl)
++++
:: eyeroll ::

After how well, "Flurona" worked, I'm actually kinda surprised they're trying it again.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 11, 2022 12:41 PM (DU+/6)

245 Sworn, not sword. Jeez.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 11, 2022 12:41 PM (Ez6QX)

246 Deltacron...I'm sure it's easy to get and much deadlier than omnicron.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 11, 2022 12:42 PM (DcKNO)

247 >I don't really care if Ukraine has bioweapons labs

How would you feel about China having a bioweapons lab in Vancouver, BC? You don't have to give a shit about Putin and Russians to at least understand from their POV that the US funding secret bioweapons labs on their front door is threatening to them, and a provocation on our part.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at March 11, 2022 12:42 PM (L9uv7)

248 196 I'm not willowed yet am I?
Posted by: willow at March 11, 2022 12:35 PM (2frzx)

Is that really you??

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 11, 2022 12:42 PM (XvPQV)

249 I think you're making the Coof way more than it actually was, Ace. The disease itself was pretty mundane. What killed most people (and I'm also very suspicious of your six million figure) were government lockdowns and edicts.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at March 11, 2022 12:42 PM (Fs5vw)

250
Let me understand this. We take a high moral stand and destroy our stocks of chemical and biological weapons back in long ago days. Then, over time and behind the scenes, we get back into the C&BW game by funding labs, manufacturing facilities and research in other countries on our behalf and using dark channels in the budget to do so? And all this under the direction of bona fide shitweasels like Fauci and Nuland?

My, our betters certainly have seized the moral heights (another hill NOT to die upon)!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars at March 11, 2022 12:43 PM (pNxlR)

251 She was twitching like crazy and jumping away if anybody got within that magic 6' radius. Fucking pathetic.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at March 11, 2022 12:41 PM (wAnMi)

Play on her fears. Exploit her anxieties. Break her, utterly.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 11, 2022 12:43 PM (SH2Zi)

252 After how well, "Flurona" worked, I'm actually kinda surprised they're trying it again.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 11, 2022 12:41 PM (DU+/6)

Ukraine isn't working out for them as well as they had hoped ?

Posted by: It's me donna at March 11, 2022 12:43 PM (J8ILO)

253 Deltacron is just another crummy Decepticon

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 11, 2022 12:43 PM (zfICL)

254 I heard on the radio last night that a new variant has shown up. It's a mashup of Delta and Omicron. They call it Deltacron. (Not making this up)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 11, 2022 12:39 PM (63Dwl)

I could've sworn we had that already, a few months ago.
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 11, 2022 12:41 PM (Ez6QX)

I was right, just found an article from January talking about Deltacron.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 11, 2022 12:43 PM (Ez6QX)

255 >>>Wow, you do ace like that.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose)

I doubt Ace would consider himself a journalist, but the fact I spend much of my time here, i obviously trust him.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 11, 2022 12:43 PM (XSRBF)

256 Bioweapons are shitty weapons. They provide next to no advantage to a country fighting a war, and they endanger all of humanity. They can't be targeted: You don't aim a bioweapon at a target, you aim it at "the entire world", and it goes wherever the hell it feels like going. Bioweapons don't act on a timescale useful to cause a military effect - they'll slowly roll over the world over the course of a year or three. A proper weapon kills the intended target on a deterministic timeline.

So yeah, it is a monstrous dick-move to build and maintain stockpiles of bioweapons. And adhering to a treaty banning their use is sane and rational - far more "grownup" than insisting on having it simply because the technology amuses you. Bioweapons aren't going to help you in a war - they won't help you win it, and they'll only screw humanity if you release them while you're losing. You can't hit an enemy bioweapon with a bioweapon to prevent it being fired, you just get two plagues on humanity.

The only people who would play with this shit are people who want to destroy mankind generally.

Posted by: nesalpers at March 11, 2022 12:43 PM (hRoyQ)

257 I heard on the radio last night that a new variant has shown up. It's a mashup of Delta and Omicron. They call it Deltacron. (Not making this up)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 11, 2022 12:39 PM (63Dwl)

0.0 is no way to run a virus, young man.

As of now, I'm reporting you all to your local Vaxx board.

And no more be said about Deltacron...you're on triple secret probation!

Posted by: Dean Vernon Fauci at March 11, 2022 12:43 PM (BgMrQ)

258 This busty lady in red athletic wear is tired of being lied to and thinks nobody in government or press should be permitted to remain there or be present in civil society:
https://is.gd/6cNbLX

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 11, 2022 12:43 PM (DU+/6)

259 Work at an airport.

*sad*
Posted by: Jordan61

I worked in a factory for a while and some joker put up a sign that said "If assholes could fly, this place would be an airport" it was right next to the shift supervisor desk. The day shift supervisor was my aunt. I think she may have been the one who put it there. I got a copy of it and gave it to my late first husband who was a mechanic for a small cargo airline. He put it up in the hangar with on "oh. Wait." scribbled at the bottom.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at March 11, 2022 12:43 PM (Vxu+H)

260 It's also worth noting that the tards at the state department walked right into this one. But I don't know if it's because they're stupid, or because it was intentional and they wanted a degree of domestic opposition.

Don't think for a moment that they won't turn the woke eye of sauron on domestic opponents under the excuse of them being pro-Russia.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at March 11, 2022 12:43 PM (0BW5E)

261 226

If the dream is won
Though everything is lost
We will pay the price
But we will not count the cost

Posted by: Toss another MSM InfoHarlot on the Left's Funeral Pyre at March 11, 2022 12:44 PM (cZtcj)

262 Madge is dead?!
Posted by: wth at March 11, 2022 12:35 PM (v0R5T)

Madge aka Jan Miner 1917-2004.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at March 11, 2022 12:44 PM (wAnMi)

263 Deltacron

What's that virus you have on

Posted by: It's me donna at March 11, 2022 12:44 PM (J8ILO)

264 Regarding my own position on statements by the US government, I consider them all suspect up until someone officially denies them.
Then I KNOW they are true.
This has served me well for the last, oh, all of my life.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 11, 2022 12:44 PM (jTmQV)

265
Wow. I thought Teh Ewok hated some other movies, but this really takes the cake.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 11, 2022 12:44 PM (n+4am)

266 They just extended the airport mandate another month. We're all very unhappy.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 11, 2022 12:37 PM (Ez6QX)

Day drink.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 11, 2022 12:44 PM (SH2Zi)

267 In Fauci they trusted and he's been using tax money to fund bioweapons for YEARS.

Don't fool yourself. We're just as big a part as any other country.
Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 12:38 PM (Zz0t1)

20 years ago, I was in position to know whether we had a bioweapons program, and we did not. That doesn't mean we don't now. But I doubt it. I make a distinction between that and Fauci's terror labs--which obviously we do have, and I suspect this Ukrainian lab represents. If you consider them the same thing, then we are in agreement.

Posted by: Mad Max in VA at March 11, 2022 12:44 PM (YQ4mh)

268 There is a Bulgarian journalist by the name of Dilyana Gaytandzhieva who published a report on her site on April 29, 2018 called The "Pentagon Bioweapons". She goes into detail about the information she has uncovered on bioweapons labs in over 25 countries including Ukraine and Georgia... and in Afghanistan. She says hundreds of people have been infected by flies and mosquitoes used as weapons to transmit pathogens. Read it here: http://dilyana.bg /the-pentagon-bio-weapons /#

Take out the extra spaces in the link.

Posted by: Nunya Bizness at March 11, 2022 12:44 PM (GnCxR)

269 You can't win.
You can't break even.
Hell, you can't even get out of "the Game".

Can anyone name a government that is not corrupt?

Posted by: Paladin at March 11, 2022 12:44 PM (CE4w9)

270 Ukraine isn't working out for them as well as they had hoped ?
Posted by: It's me donna at March 11, 2022 12:43 PM (J8ILO)
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Nah, I suspect any "OMG NEW VARIANT" kinds of news are not intended to go anywhere or result in any real outcome and are just being doled out to keep Karen on the plantation.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 11, 2022 12:45 PM (DU+/6)

271
Covid ain't gone.

Ride a school bus

I see the school bus in my neighborhood while walking.
Nobody on the bus is masked. Surprised me.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 11, 2022 12:45 PM (63Dwl)

272 266 They just extended the airport mandate another month. We're all very unhappy.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 11, 2022 12:37 PM (Ez6QX)

Day drink.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur

You're lucky. I may never get to take mine off at work.

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 11, 2022 12:45 PM (W2Pud)

273 Whoa! WHOA! What's this about turning the drill the wrong way?!

Posted by: Weasel at March 11, 2022 12:45 PM (0IeYL)

274 "You're soaking in it."
"Ancient Chinese secret, huh?"
"You sank my battleship!"
"You got your chocolate in my peanut butter!"
"Walkin' digger, mom!"

I miss 1970s cheese. They don't make 'em like they used to.
Posted by: red speck at March 11, 2022 12:41 PM (gS3OW)
........

Six finger, Six finger, man alive!
How'd I ever get along with five?

Posted by: wth at March 11, 2022 12:45 PM (v0R5T)

275 Remember the anthrax mailings? The FNM/Deep State claim it came from a scientist at Fort Detrick. No, not the first one the accused but another one.

Supposedly Fort Detrick is only for "defensive research" as well. And yet...

Oh, and the core argument about "the anthrax strain used was an American one so it must have been from Fort Detrick"?

The Iraqis got their anthrax samples from the US. They told the people that control access to this stuff (the ATCC) that they needed some for peaceful research. So...the Iraqis had an American strain...

Posted by: 18-1 at March 11, 2022 12:46 PM (ESjRY)

276 Out: Crisis management

In: Management by crisis.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at March 11, 2022 12:46 PM (5pTK/)

277 >>>Holy shit, they won't give this nonsense up.

Must be lucrative to the right people.

Posted by: Seems Legit at March 11, 2022 12:40 PM (DcKNO)

It's now a liability to the right people, so they are panicking and flailing.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at March 11, 2022 12:46 PM (QYPq3)

278 Is Tucker a good guy or a bad guy at this point? Too lazy to read or watch the vids.

Also, does anyone else wish that Griffin's stupidly long earrings snag something and rip her ear off?

Posted by: Capital Eff at March 11, 2022 12:46 PM (GYllL)

279 This busty lady in red athletic wear is tired of being lied to and thinks nobody in government or press should be permitted to remain there or be present in civil society:
https://is.gd/6cNbLX
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 11, 2022 12:43 PM (DU+/6)

Almost looks like a photoshop. That rack and face does not belong on that body. But...better living through science, I guess.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 11, 2022 12:46 PM (XvPQV)

280 "Don't believe Russian lies. Believe OUR lies!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 11, 2022 12:46 PM (KT3en)

281 Republicans have taken a 9-point national lead among Hispanic voters and more than doubled support in the black community to 27 percent, a Wall Street Journal survey shows.

The poll, conducted for the newspaper by Democrat firm Impact Research and GOP firm Fabrizio, Lee & Associates from March 2 to March 7, surveyed 1,500 registered voters and has a 2.5 percent margin of error.

Posted by: SMOD at March 11, 2022 12:46 PM (RHGPo)

282 It's becoming apparent that smod is a viable option.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at March 11, 2022 12:47 PM (0OmEj)

283 Posted by: Elric Blade at March 11, 2022 12:41 PM (iFTx/)

The Trump Russia bullshit seemed to come out of left field, and it did. The fact that CIA ops can use it successfully in former USSR countries didn't make it successful here, and it seemed like a weird ass op, because it was one.
The DC and Davos boys are working overtime to smear Putin with their own behavior to try and salvage credibility. They are using "the man who united the world" bullshit to try to do this. The bioweapons labs won't help them, and I hope that Putin keeps the info coming. Sad we need Pooty to get he truth, but we do.

Posted by: CN at March 11, 2022 12:47 PM (ONvIw)

284 You're lucky. I may never get to take mine off at work.
Posted by: nurse ratched at March 11, 2022 12:45 PM (W2Pud)

I know, I keep thinking about you. The medical profession will probably give it up around the time you're ready to retire.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 11, 2022 12:47 PM (Ez6QX)

285 The Soviets lucked out at Svedlosk in 1979. If the wind had been blowing in the opposite direction, the heart of the city would have been dusted with anthrax.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 11, 2022 12:47 PM (zfICL)

286
Maybe you're turning it the wrong way, fellas. I did that once with a drill.

Even worse, these maniacs store dangerous pathogens on... SHELVES.

The horror.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 11, 2022 12:47 PM (n+4am)

287 Nice rant, Ace.

I do have one question. If our government started telling us the truth, how would we know?

Posted by: t_bodie - Lurker. Unless you are reading this. at March 11, 2022 12:47 PM (pcp3j)

288 Holy shit, how did Kamala get where she is today? I don't care that she sucked some D, a lot of people have. She's got the brain of a particularly slow turnip, and I'm swinging wildly between shock horror and terrified, uncontrollable hooting.

The reporter specifically states, "If I could ask you, Madame Vice President," and she curtly nods. Then when the reporter is done, she does this super awkward gesturing as if she doesn't know if she should answer or the other person on stage should.

The question is a bit rambling, but basically, "How long are we going to have to endure this economic shitstorm."

Kamala pauses a very long time to gather her "thoughts", then goes on a super generic, "We had a broad ranging discussion," "We're in communication," "We've been apprised," answer that has NOTHING to do with inflation or anything remotely similar to the question asked.

https://bit.ly/3tMLWhb

Posted by: bonhomme at March 11, 2022 12:47 PM (8/9Tc)

289 Thing is, there is no reason to "stockpile" chemical and bioweapons. You can always create chemicals or biological agents when needed and just throw them into an artillery shell. All you need is a rudimentary knowledge of chemistry and existing industry or seed biological agents to start with.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 11, 2022 12:47 PM (UuD2k)

290 I think you're making the Coof way more than it actually was, Ace. The disease itself was pretty mundane. What killed most people (and I'm also very suspicious of your six million figure) were government lockdowns and edicts.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at March 11, 2022 12:42 PM (Fs5vw)

Deprivation of potentially effective therapeutics for financial gains was absolutely pivotal to those deaths. But yeah, the numbers were BS out of the gate and remain so.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 11, 2022 12:48 PM (SH2Zi)

291 This busty lady in red athletic wear is tired of being lied to and thinks nobody in government or press should be permitted to remain there or be present in civil society:
https://is.gd/6cNbLX
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 11, 2022 12:43 PM (DU+/6)

Be careful with those things. They'll put an eye out.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 12:48 PM (Zz0t1)

292 Can anyone name a government that is not corrupt?
Posted by: Paladin at March 11, 2022 12:44 PM (CE4w9)

Focus on governments unable, unwilling or incompetent to interfere in the lives if its citizens too much.

People in Thailand live freer than we do now.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 11, 2022 12:48 PM (XvPQV)

293 278 Is Tucker a good guy or a bad guy at this point? Too lazy to read or watch the vids.

Also, does anyone else wish that Griffin's stupidly long earrings snag something and rip her ear off?
Posted by: Capital Eff at March 11, 2022 12:46 PM (GYllL)

Tucker is pretty good... And yes to the griffin earring thing

Posted by: It's me donna at March 11, 2022 12:48 PM (J8ILO)

294
Also, does anyone else wish that Griffin's stupidly long earrings snag something and rip her ear off?
Posted by: Capital Eff at March 11, 2022 12:46 PM (GYllL)

hee hee

Posted by: CN at March 11, 2022 12:48 PM (ONvIw)

295 >>>We take a high moral stand and destroy our stocks of chemical and biological weapons back in long ago days.
====================
Someone forgot to close Fort Detrick, then.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 11, 2022 12:48 PM (PlR4s)

296 281 Republicans have taken a 9-point national lead among Hispanic voters and more than doubled support in the black community to 27 percent, a Wall Street Journal survey shows.

The poll, conducted for the newspaper by Democrat firm Impact Research and GOP firm Fabrizio, Lee & Associates from March 2 to March 7, surveyed 1,500 registered voters and has a 2.5 percent margin of error.
Posted by: SMOD at March 11, 2022 12:46 PM (RHGPo)

=======

This is Putin's fault. The only solution is to send red state young men to die on the streets of Moscow for the next twenty years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 11, 2022 12:48 PM (LvTSG)

297 >>>I do have one question. If our government started telling us the truth, how would we know?

Posted by: t_bodie - Lurker. Unless you are reading this. at March 11, 2022 12:47 PM (pcp3j)

They aren't talking.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at March 11, 2022 12:48 PM (QYPq3)

298 Madge aka Jan Miner 1917-2004.
Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at March 11, 2022 12:44 PM (wAnMi)
........

I'm going to stick my fingertips in a little bowl of soap tonight in loving memory.

Posted by: wth at March 11, 2022 12:49 PM (v0R5T)

299 feel like getting a handle of cheap whiskey and a carton of Camel nonfilters and consuming it all in one day.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 11, 2022 12:27 PM (II3Gr)

You make that sound like a bad thing.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at March 11, 2022 12:49 PM (NW9xb)

300 Pretty incredible how COVID is totally gone...

Gone from any media coverage, they moved right on to the next thing.

--

Has CNN replaced its 24/7 Covid Death Toll graphic with a 24/7 Ukrainian Women and Babies Death Toll graphic?

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 11, 2022 12:49 PM (sVtYq)

301 >>>How would you feel about China having a bioweapons lab in Vancouver, BC?

1. They probably do. Along with labs here in the US.

2. It's BS Putin wants Ukraine for economic, global political, strategic, and perhaps cultural reasons. Anyone who claims NATO makes Putin feel uneasy because of this or that activity is blowing smoke. NATO doesn't have the balls to do anything to Russia really; QED the current situation. No don't lionize Putin's naked aggression. If anything our involvement to the extent we are involved is just an excuse for Putin to do what he already wanted to do.

Posted by: mikethemoose at March 11, 2022 12:49 PM (T/vhV)

302 I'm convinced the hateful, deluded and increasingly desperate media and Democrat Left (is there another variety anymore) will start WWIII if they think it will distract from their record of ruin. War is simply ratcheting up the socially destructive torque they've already shown no compunction in applying with Covid. There is nothing and no one they will not sacrifice to retain power.

Posted by: Ordinary American at March 11, 2022 12:49 PM (H8QX8)

303 Using Russia as a boogeyman is effective because they are, in fact, a giant bunch of cunts. It's like the opposite of the domestic prog tactic of spinning up BLM over the death of some obvious POS.

If there is any nation on the planet that clearly has no fucking moral authority to march into Ukraine and tell them how to govern themselves, while insisting that they're entitled to Ukrainian territory and that Ukraine doesn't have a cultural identity... it's Russia. They've tried to stamp them out more than once before. and what they're doing here is objective horrendous.

The Ukrainians and the baltics are basically caught between one bunch of twats (Russia) and another set of twats (western progs), both of whom want a war for their own purposes.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at March 11, 2022 12:49 PM (0BW5E)

304 205
I'm a fool to do your dirty work
Oh yeah
I don't wanna do your dirty work
No more
I'm a fool to do your dirty work
Oh yeah

I'm approaching a more Phil Collins vibe:

'Cos I remember all the times I tried so hard; And you laughed in my face 'cos you held the cards; I don't care anymore; And I really ain't bothered what you think of me; 'Cos all I want of you is just a let me be! I don't care anymore! D'you hear?! I don't care no more! I don't care what you say; I never did believe you much anyway

Posted by: red speck at March 11, 2022 12:49 PM (gS3OW)

305
People in Thailand live freer than we do now.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 11, 2022 12:48 PM (XvPQV)

Huh.

*looks up USD to baht exchange rate*

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 11, 2022 12:49 PM (II3Gr)

306 "Braaawwwk!!!

Jenny wanna cracker!!!"

Braaawwwwkkk!!"

Posted by: Sharkman at March 11, 2022 12:49 PM (B1Vad)

307 Hi Mark .yep it's me.

Posted by: willow at March 11, 2022 12:49 PM (2frzx)

308 Now that "Gutfelds"been put on the shelf for awhile, Fox is pretty much unwatchable.
Posted by: Shooter McGavin at March 11, 2022 12:26 PM (SVUeu)
********
Gutfeld's show is coming back Monday.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 11, 2022 12:50 PM (NpAcC)

309 I do have one question. If our government started telling us the truth, how would we know?

Posted by: t_bodie - Lurker. Unless you are reading this. at March 11, 2022 12:47 PM (pcp3j)

Read their lips...no new taxes!

Posted by: BignJames at March 11, 2022 12:50 PM (AwYPR)

310 You make that sound like a bad thing.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at March 11, 2022 12:49 PM (NW9xb)

Well a whole carton in one day WILL give him a sore throat.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 11, 2022 12:50 PM (Ez6QX)

311 Okay, in my brief skimming of this post, my takeaway is: it appears the Biden Junta is desperately looking for a reason, any reason, to justify sending our military into Ukraine. And the Junta is finding out, much to their dismay, the military action squirrel isn't working with the American public.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at March 11, 2022 12:50 PM (5pTK/)

312 288 Holy shit, how did Kamala get where she is today? I don't care that she sucked some D, a lot of people have. She's got the brain of a particularly slow turnip, and I'm swinging wildly between shock horror and terrified, uncontrollable hooting.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 11, 2022 12:47 PM (8/9Tc)

=========

Political machines do not promote people because they are good at politics. They promote people because they suck the right dicks well enough. That's usually proverbial, but it just happens to be literal in Kamala's case.

In machines, you don't have to develop political skill as long as he can make the one guy who makes decisions happy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 11, 2022 12:50 PM (LvTSG)

313 Here is a good podcast by Glen Greenwald on this topic. It is quite in depth.
The link goes to Rumble.

https://tinyurl.com/2p87h4j6

Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 11, 2022 12:50 PM (jTmQV)

314 307 Hi Mark .yep it's me.
Posted by: willow at March 11, 2022 12:49 PM (2frzx)

Aw, missed you around here, kiddo.
Place isn't the same without you.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 11, 2022 12:51 PM (XvPQV)

315 I'm approaching a more Phil Collins vibe:

Posted by: red speck at March 11, 2022 12:49 PM (gS3OW)

It's NOOOOO FUUN!
Being an ILLEEEEGAAALL AAAALLLIEEEAAAANNNN.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 12:51 PM (Zz0t1)

316
*looks up USD to baht exchange rate*

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 11, 2022 12:49 PM

last time I looked the baht was worth about 3.3 cents

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 11, 2022 12:51 PM (DUIap)

317 My guess - they are not covering up the research, but the grift. Lots of grift.

My perspective is that these gov. research guys have figured out how to turn every project into an eternal font of grift. Like Jesus and the wine bottle, they can feed generations of researchers off even the most minor task if it really needs to be don.

I have worked with Hanford (the site in WA that has nuclear waste,...) and they don't just plan on it taking hundreds of years, but they plan on the size and scope increasing to the point where they all get promoted to Director level or VP level during the course of their career. (ref. UK MOD between the wars, and Parkinson's law)

This is the perfect grift - dealing with those labs *has* to be done, and it involves an industry (biomedical research) which is all ready on the gov. teat and knows all about that grift.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 11, 2022 12:51 PM (YvFkn)

318 So...the Iraqis had an American strain...

Posted by: 18-1 at March 11, 2022 12:46 PM (ESjRY)

And the Russians likely do, too.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 11, 2022 12:51 PM (SH2Zi)

319 197 162

If this country hasn't already fallen, what do you call this now?
Posted by: Ziba at March 11, 2022 12:36 PM (S1hrL)

Apres Liberty. All the sophisticated cool people love it. Don't you want to be like them?

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at March 11, 2022 12:51 PM (cupoy)

320 Yup, need a new variant to keep those gas splurgers at home where they belong.

Posted by: Ziba at March 11, 2022 12:51 PM (S1hrL)

321
Aw, missed you around here, kiddo.
Place isn't the same without you.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 11, 2022 12:51 PM (XvPQV)

We've lost too many to God. The rest need to stick around if you're still around.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 12:51 PM (Zz0t1)

322 Jenniffer Griffin: Pentagon Spokeshole

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 11, 2022 12:52 PM (M+Lyo)

323 >>Tucker is pretty good... And yes to the griffin earring thing
Posted by: It's me donna

Thanks.

Posted by: Capital Eff at March 11, 2022 12:52 PM (GYllL)

324 yeah, well that
false witness one
vitally important seems now
i forgot

Posted by: yoeman at March 11, 2022 12:52 PM (BYNHj)

325 I'm going to stick my fingertips in a little bowl of soap tonight in loving memory.
Posted by: wth at March 11, 2022 12:49 PM (v0R5T)

You could do the Mormon version of soaking which would be a lot more fun.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 11, 2022 12:52 PM (Ez6QX)

326 People in Thailand live freer than we do now.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 11, 2022 12:48 PM (XvPQV)

Huh.

*looks up USD to baht exchange rate*
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 11, 2022 12:49 PM (II3Gr)

just don't marry a local, you literally have to pay for her. One of my co-workers did just that.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 11, 2022 12:52 PM (XvPQV)

327 I have a nine-inch penis. It's on my fact sheet.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 11, 2022 12:52 PM (sWM8x)

328 nurse ratchet,

May inquire which facility you provide care, at? You can use the email in my name.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at March 11, 2022 12:52 PM (QYPq3)

329 Ty Mark.

Posted by: willow at March 11, 2022 12:52 PM (2frzx)

330 I think Jennifer Griffen is annoying a lot of the conservative hosts over there.
She corrected Harris Faulkner the other day and Harris seemed pissed.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 11, 2022 12:52 PM (NpAcC)

331 Hi Mark .yep it's me.

Posted by: willow at March 11, 2022 12:49 PM (2frzx)

*checks front page again for good measure*

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 11, 2022 12:53 PM (SH2Zi)

332 I have a nine-inch penis. It's on my fact sheet.

--

ROFL...good one.

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 11, 2022 12:53 PM (sVtYq)

333 Hating on Russia comes and goes seemingly according to the tides. It wasn't long ago when Prez Obama and Secy of State Clinton were totally botching their Russian "reset." They were on their hands and knees Kamaling Putin. They laughed at Romney for correctly pointing out that Russia was a major threat. Then Oceania was at war with Eurasia. Now Russia and Putin are all-purpose boogeymen for whatever fetish the left has at the moment.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 11, 2022 12:41 PM (iFTx/)

Soros hates Putin.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at March 11, 2022 12:53 PM (y7DUB)

334 just don't marry a local, you literally have to pay for her. One of my co-workers did just that.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 11, 2022 12:52 PM (XvPQV)
++++
If she stays bought, I can think of worse ways to go about it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 11, 2022 12:54 PM (DU+/6)

335 331 Hi Mark .yep it's me.

Posted by: willow at March 11, 2022 12:49 PM (2frzx)

*checks front page again for good measure*
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 11, 2022 12:53 PM (SH2Zi)

========

I don't get it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 11, 2022 12:54 PM (LvTSG)

336 To the extent that I care at all about this war is for three reasons. We gave our word when we convinced Ukraine to disarm. I have a barely sorta minor preference that Ukraine is allied with Uber Woke Europe, than Anti-Woke Fascist Russia......Barely. Ukraine is a sovereign country, we can't go around letting empire builders walk over sovereign countries for strategic gain unless we want to either kneel to them or fight WWIII once they are powerful enough to stomp us.

Posted by: mikethemoose at March 11, 2022 12:54 PM (T/vhV)

337 Soros hates Putin.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at March 11, 2022 12:53 PM (y7DUB)

I'm kind of wishing that Putin would do us a solid here.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 11, 2022 12:54 PM (SH2Zi)

338 I have a nine-inch penis. It's on my fact sheet.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 11, 2022 12:52 PM (sWM8x)

Spit it out, it's not yours

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 11, 2022 12:55 PM (M+Lyo)

339 Righteous rant.

Posted by: Javems at March 11, 2022 12:55 PM (AmoqO)

340 Kamala pauses a very long time to gather her "thoughts", then goes on a super generic, "We had a broad ranging discussion," "We're in communication," "We've been apprised," answer that has NOTHING to do with inflation or anything remotely similar to the question asked.

https://bit.ly/3tMLWhb
Posted by: bonhomme at March 11, 2022 12:47 PM (8/9Tc)

To be fair, what is she going to say? What the hell is anybody going to say? "Owing to wild miscalculations and wholly unearned optimism, KSA, Russia, and Venezuela all hate our ever loving guts. So record gas prices are here to stay and they will get worse. We could repent of our stupid Gaia Worship, but that's not going to happen, so your only hope of deliverance is nuclear death to all of New York. Which, spoiler alert, we are inadvertently charging towards."

Would that make you feel better?

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2022 12:55 PM (Eqkqm)

341 I'm kind of wishing that Putin would do us a solid here.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 11, 2022 12:54 PM (SH2Zi)

I'd love to see him expose our pols and oligarchs. We need it.

Posted by: CN at March 11, 2022 12:55 PM (ONvIw)

342 337 It's on my fact sheet.

Not touching that fact sheet

Posted by: Dogbert at March 11, 2022 12:55 PM (Z9HSN)

343 Someone needs to get God to stop killing our commenters.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 11, 2022 12:55 PM (II3Gr)

344 A solid on Soros means taking care of his whole family

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 11, 2022 12:56 PM (Sb1Se)

345 Also, to nitpick from earlier this AM:

"Now, you have to be careful in dealing with bioweapons, but they're not like spent nuclear material -- you can destroy them. Easily. It just takes a lot of UV light."

That's... very wrong.

The Soviets were really big into developing radiation-resistant pathogens (some of their follow-up ICBM warheads featured them), and really effective weaponization of many pathogens includes embedding them in substances fine enough to have the desired spread, but still able to shield them from UV.

In decontaminating a building, you can't just shine UV everywhere; that's not going to reach a bunch of places you need to get to.

Note that this doesn't mean the State Dept isn't full of shit. But they're likely not covering up anything involving Soviet era weapons or conventional bioweapons; they're probably covering up more NIH-funded quackery.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at March 11, 2022 12:56 PM (0BW5E)

346 I will admit that I live in a bit of a bubble, but my acquaintances seem to be mostly immune to further crisis-mongering. They are more concerned with actual threats to their well-being rather than the crisis du jour presented by the Deep State.

Posted by: Emmie is unacceptable, eh at March 11, 2022 12:56 PM (6RgRK)

347 Reporters using fact sheets vs. actual reporting has a long history. I saw this back in college when I had to take some journalism classes. Didn't matter if it was a government or non-profit sheet. It was unquestionably reported.

Posted by: Beartooth at March 11, 2022 12:57 PM (+3ARs)

348
I'm kind of wishing that Putin would do us a solid here.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 11, 2022 12:54 PM (SH2Zi)

Was thinking the exact same thing. He's got some uranium 235 or whatever hanging around, I'm sure.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 12:57 PM (Zz0t1)

349 340 To be fair, what is she going to say? What the hell is anybody going to say? "Owing to wild miscalculations and wholly unearned optimism, KSA, Russia, and Venezuela all hate our ever loving guts. So record gas prices are here to stay and they will get worse. We could repent of our stupid Gaia Worship, but that's not going to happen, so your only hope of deliverance is nuclear death to all of New York. Which, spoiler alert, we are inadvertently charging towards."

Would that make you feel better?
Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2022 12:55 PM (Eqkqm)

=========

That she can't do boilerplate talking points is an issue pointing towards her complete inability to think more complex thoughts than what a sea sponge can manage.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 11, 2022 12:57 PM (LvTSG)

350 just don't marry a local, you literally have to pay for her. One of my co-workers did just that.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 11, 2022 12:52 PM (XvPQV)

Like, a purchase price? Do I get a bill of sale and legal title? What kind of warranty do they come with?

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 11, 2022 12:57 PM (II3Gr)

351 Hi Mark .yep it's me.
Posted by: willow

*checks front page again for good measure*
Posted by: flounder

I don't get it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I don't get it.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at March 11, 2022 12:57 PM (egg9a)

352 Posted by: willow at March 11, 2022 12:33 PM (2frzx)

Good to see you. Been missing you.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at March 11, 2022 12:57 PM (nC+QA)

353 "If our government started telling us the truth, how would we know?"

By their denial of it, of course.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 11, 2022 12:57 PM (jTmQV)

354 2012: Russia is our friend. The 80s are calling they want their foreign policy back

2014: Oh...oppsie. Don't worry about the Russians and Ukes. Stuff happens you know?

2016: Trump is Hitler. Putin is Hitler. Therefore Trump = Putin. THIS IS MATH YOU IDIOTS!

2016-2020: Russia Russia Russia

2022: It is our sacred holy duty to nuke Moscow because of gay rights. Uh...I mean their invasion of Ukraine. Because nothing like this has ever happened before.

Posted by: The FNM at March 11, 2022 12:57 PM (ESjRY)

355 I don't have to hate Russians to hate Putin. I'm sure their elections are as pure as ours or Venezuela's.
I also don't have to agree to lying Russia annex another country as they did Georgia Crimea etc.
The blame Ukraine for labs thing to me is disgusting as we're all in on funding it

Posted by: willow at March 11, 2022 12:57 PM (2frzx)

356 "Holy shit, how did Kamala get where she is today? I don't care that she sucked some D, a lot of people have. She's got the brain. .

Posted by: bonhomme at March 11, 2022 12:47 PM (8/9Tc)

She's on the ticket because of the color of her skin and gender. She got to semi-position in SF (bad phrasing) because of Wiilie Brown's D.

She moved up because this is Cali. All Ds win.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at March 11, 2022 12:58 PM (NW9xb)

357 To the extent that I care at all about this war is for three reasons. We gave our word when we convinced Ukraine to disarm.

Posted by: mikethemoose at March 11, 2022 12:54 PM (T/vhV)

Bill Clinton...who also promised to grab a rifle and man a trench to protect Israel...never trust a bull shitter.

Posted by: BignJames at March 11, 2022 12:58 PM (AwYPR)

358 My fact sheet is made from Giza cotton.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 11, 2022 12:58 PM (63Dwl)

359 This UN meeting is a cluster fartclam.

you're lying, nu-uh you are, nope you are, ...

I know you are but what am I?

Then one reads that threaderapp from a guy on the ground claiming what's going on is all one big movie set.

The fog of real time propaganda.

Everyone is lying, likely. So much for any sense of the 'unvarnished truth'.

Posted by: micky at March 11, 2022 12:58 PM (3byMq)

360 > You could do the Mormon version of soaking which would be a lot more fun.

You need a friend to jump on the bed so you get a bit of movement not generated by yourself.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 11, 2022 12:58 PM (8/9Tc)

361
I don't get it.
Posted by: Amy Schumer at March 11, 2022 12:57 PM (egg9a)

You DICK!!!!

Posted by: Jeff Spicoli at March 11, 2022 12:58 PM (Zz0t1)

362 Propaganda still works and so does wagging the dog.

Brandon was at 39.8 approval exactly a month ago on RCP. Today it is at 42.9. That's still pretty low obviously, but a 3 point rise in the average in a month shows Americans are fucking gullible imbeciles that will believe anything they see on CNN.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at March 11, 2022 12:58 PM (OalnH)

363 Th polliwog. I enjoy seeing you here too. Always glad to see good people are still ok

Posted by: willow at March 11, 2022 12:59 PM (2frzx)

364 327 I have a nine-inch penis. It's on my fact sheet.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 11, 2022 12:52 PM (sWM8x)

In that case you can dispose the fact sheet yourself. No way I'm touching it now.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at March 11, 2022 12:59 PM (8yjxn)

365 I'd love to see him expose our pols and oligarchs. We need it.
Posted by: CN at March 11, 2022 12:55 PM (ONvIw)

I don't know how much more exposed they need to get. The fact is that America is no longer controlled by actualdemocracy or republican law in any real sense. A very small faction of friendly oligarchs (which may be Donald Trump, alone) is trying to fix things, but God knows all the others are doing their absolute best to hasten Armageddon. Which you'd think people who hate the Christian Bible would try to avoid. Nevertheless, here we are.

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2022 12:59 PM (Eqkqm)

366 I have a nine-inch penis. It's on my fact sheet.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 11, 2022 12:52 PM (sWM8x)

Spit it out, it's not yours

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 11, 2022 12:55 PM (M+Lyo)

It's not ripe.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 11, 2022 12:59 PM (SH2Zi)

367 >>I'm kind of wishing that Putin would do us a solid here.

He better keep all of those videos he has of me secret.

Posted by: Lindsey Graham at March 11, 2022 01:00 PM (GYllL)

368 ut what I do care about is the endless, endless remorseless lies from the government, and the insistence that we are not allowed to ask questions. And that if we point out that their obvious lies are in fact obviously lies, we're Russian Agents.

We're Russian Agents for not having IQs in the room temperature range.

What the Deep State and the Brandon Regime is telling is are lies so stupid and so unbelievable that my chief objection to them is the insult to my intellect, not the moral defect of them.
==
Fully agree. I have one more tho
WHY ARE THEY LYING?
Normally they lie to cover up their own bad conduct. So I do care about the why. WTF are they doing. I don't know what they are doing, but I do know, it ain't charity work, or whatever bullshit they are selling now.

Posted by: simplemind at March 11, 2022 01:00 PM (sG3Ig)

369 I'm gonna try this text to voice thing. Ace That was a whole lot of truth. Horde I miss you all.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at March 11, 2022 01:00 PM (0OmEj)

370 Putin is excited about Ukrainian bioweapons research because it looks a lot like the 'Problem 5' Soviet biological warfare program which was concealed behind the USSR Ministry of Health 'Anti-Plague' program. This concealed the Soviet BW program from Biological Warfare Convention treaty inspectors after the BWC Treaty took effect in 1975. This has been well documented by Alibek and Zilinskas.

The Soviets and later, the Russians, continued their BW efforts under the guise of the MoH Anti-Plague program into this century. It may still be underway. Putin figures the Ukrainians (and the Americans) are mirroring the surreptitious Russian BW program.

After the Wuhan Institute of Virology revelations, who can blame Putin?

Posted by: 10x25mm at March 11, 2022 01:00 PM (rHKqA)

371 My fact sheet is made from Giza cotton.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 11, 2022 12:58 PM (63Dwl)
........

You should be cancel cultured.

Posted by: wth at March 11, 2022 01:00 PM (v0R5T)

372 We are watching the deep state implode before our eyes. I read an interesting book years ago, and it pointed out that the information revolution would undermine centralized governments all over the world, and they would do unthinkable things to try and stop it. I thought it was a bit out there at the time.

Now, I just see lie after lie, censorship worse than Fahrenheit 451, and everyone from both parties demanding that I not believe my own eyes.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 11, 2022 01:00 PM (5kI0z)

373 356 She's on the ticket because of the color of her skin and gender. She got to semi-position in SF (bad phrasing) because of Wiilie Brown's D.

She moved up because this is Cali. All Ds win.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at March 11, 2022 12:58 PM (NW9xb)

=========

Democrats are terrified of losing the black vote. In fact, it's pretty obvious that they already have lost their stranglehold on the group. The only way they get close to their historic numbers is by massive cheating in key black districts like Philly, which calls into question their entire historic dominance in the first place.

They know that if blacks start voting like Asians (80-20) instead of what they traditionally do (90-10), they lose presidential elections forever.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 11, 2022 01:00 PM (LvTSG)

374 288 Holy shit, how did Kamala get where she is today? I don't care that she sucked some D, a lot of people have. She's got the brain of a particularly slow turnip, and I'm swinging wildly between shock horror and terrified, uncontrollable hooting.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 11, 2022 12:47 PM (8/9Tc)

I'm beginning to think Ron Klain is getting Biden to send Kamala on diplomatic missions and other public events that Klain knows she'll flub. In hopes she'll screw-up so badly in public or get so depressed by the criticism that she'll resign. Then Klain will select a VP replacement nominee who is not a political threat to Biden and will not embarrass the Junta every time he/she says something.

Posted by: Gref at March 11, 2022 01:00 PM (AMIL/)

375 I do have one question. If our government started telling us the truth, how would we know?
Posted by: t_bodie - Lurker. Unless you are reading this. at March 11, 2022 12:47 PM (pcp3j)

Reading that, I imagined hearing as a Steve Wright joke.

Posted by: mrp at March 11, 2022 01:01 PM (6eRlp)

376 >>A solid on Soros means taking care of his whole family

And ALL of his friends and associates.

Posted by: garrett at March 11, 2022 01:01 PM (lhr6a)

377 Supposedly 70-80% of Americans polled say it's totes cool to have $5 gas since we're saving Democracy. And sadly I think those polls are accurate.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at March 11, 2022 01:01 PM (OalnH)

378 That she can't do boilerplate talking points is an issue pointing towards her complete inability to think more complex thoughts than what a sea sponge can manage.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 11, 2022 12:57 PM (LvTSG)

Oh goodness, yes, but not even "Joe Biden" is trusting her with anything of the slightest importance. So I'm not as worried as I would be, and I'm certainly not expecting legitimate policy from her.

Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2022 01:01 PM (Eqkqm)

379 360 > You could do the Mormon version of soaking which would be a lot more fun.

You need a friend to jump on the bed so you get a bit of movement not generated by yourself.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 11, 2022 12:58 PM (8/9Tc)

Is this a real thing?

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 11, 2022 01:01 PM (II3Gr)

380 I don't have to hate Russians to hate Putin. I'm sure their elections are as pure as ours or Venezuela's.
I also don't have to agree to lying Russia annex another country as they did Georgia Crimea etc.
The blame Ukraine for labs thing to me is disgusting as we're all in on funding it

Posted by: willow at March 11, 2022 12:57 PM (2frzx)

I don't hate Russians, and I am not particularly enamored of Putin. I am not a fan of particular aspects of their culture, but same can be said of ours.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 11, 2022 01:01 PM (SH2Zi)

381 A bat coronavirus evolving a furin cleavage site is about as likely as Killian having a typewriter with superscripts.

Posted by: Buck O Phive at March 11, 2022 01:01 PM (zTJAd)

382 Horde I miss you all.
Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at March 11, 2022 01:00 PM (0OmEj)

*fistbump*

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 01:02 PM (Zz0t1)

383 That she can't do boilerplate talking points is an issue pointing towards her complete inability to think more complex thoughts than what a sea sponge can manage.

Exactly this. How hard is it to say, "We are concerned with the rising costs of food and gas. We are working to drive prices down so folks can put food on the table and drive to work without the extra burden of high prices. Joe Biden's Build Back Better blah blah blah..."

Posted by: bonhomme at March 11, 2022 01:02 PM (8/9Tc)

384 Hey, Ace!

@julie_kelly2

Phenomenal write-up by Ace on the regime/media subterfuge on Ukraine's bio-weapons facilities that are totally legit and not owned the the Defense Department or something:

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 11, 2022 01:02 PM (ptqGC)

385 They know that if blacks start voting like Asians (80-20) instead of what they traditionally do (90-10), they lose presidential elections forever.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 11, 2022 01:00 PM (LvTSG)

___

We got them covered if that happens.
- Single white women with no kids who vote 90-10 Dem

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at March 11, 2022 01:02 PM (OalnH)

386 378 Oh goodness, yes, but not even "Joe Biden" is trusting her with anything of the slightest importance. So I'm not as worried as I would be, and I'm certainly not expecting legitimate policy from her.
Posted by: trev006 at March 11, 2022 01:01 PM (Eqkqm)

==========

She's a figurehead. She has to be used somehow, especially since their primary figurehead can't be in public for more than an hour or so.

Democrats put themselves in a bad situation, and they have no idea how to get out of it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 11, 2022 01:02 PM (LvTSG)

387 Propaganda still works and so does wagging the dog.

Brandon was at 39.8 approval exactly a month ago on RCP. Today it is at 42.9. That's still pretty low obviously, but a 3 point rise in the average in a month shows Americans are fucking gullible imbeciles that will believe anything they see on CNN.

--

Insofar as I believe polls are BS, you are sadly correct. People are gullible imbeciles. Mind tricks work. Propaganda works. Heck, we just spent 2 solid years of lies, contortions, untruths and unwarranted hysteria. And a lot of people recognize that! Yet they'll still pull their chairs up to the idiot box and listen intently once again to the same liars who shoveled them s*** only just prior. I wish it wasn't so.

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 11, 2022 01:03 PM (sVtYq)

388 I remember lots of people making fun of GWB's malopropisms. Are Kamala's inanities drawing the same attention?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh. at March 11, 2022 01:03 PM (eGTCV)

389
And ALL of his friends and associates.

Posted by: garrett at March 11, 2022 01:01 PM (lhr6a)

I'll settle for the entire WEF.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 01:03 PM (Zz0t1)

390 Hey, Ace!

@julie_kelly2

Phenomenal write-up by Ace on the regime/media subterfuge on Ukraine's bio-weapons facilities that are totally legit and not owned the the Defense Department or something:
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 11, 2022 01:02 PM (ptqGC)

Heh, I just sent that to Ace!

Posted by: Pony Tail at March 11, 2022 01:04 PM (tzZq2)

391 We are watching the deep state implode before our eyes. I read an interesting book years ago, and it pointed out that the information revolution would undermine centralized governments all over the world, and they would do unthinkable things to try and stop it. I thought it was a bit out there at the time.

Now, I just see lie after lie, censorship worse than Fahrenheit 451, and everyone from both parties demanding that I not believe my own eyes.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at March 11, 2022 01:00 PM (5kI0z)

Yeah, I really do believe the the information superhighway is a big contributor to where we are. Just goes to show you how long and how bad they have been fucking us over.

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 11, 2022 01:04 PM (M+Lyo)

392 345 It takes thermite plasma, like in that Nicolas Cage documentary, "The Rock."

Posted by: callsign claymore at March 11, 2022 01:04 PM (rrwaB)

393 I'm gonna try this text to voice thing. Ace That was a whole lot of truth. Horde I miss you all.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at March 11, 2022 01:00 PM (0OmEj)

Do they make an Angry Ewok voice version? Because that would be cool.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 11, 2022 01:04 PM (SH2Zi)

394 >>>Bill Clinton...who also promised to grab a rifle and man a trench to protect Israel...never trust a bull shitter.

Truly. But our silence is complicity. In other words we didn't as a political movement, shout to the Ukraine loudly "DON'T DO IT! WE CAN'T BE TRUSTED LONG TERM!" And in our silence implicitly affirmed Clinton lies. So I do feel some small level of responsibility for the lie that the people of Ukraine bought.

Posted by: mikethemoose at March 11, 2022 01:04 PM (T/vhV)

395 Maybe they are actually children maternity hospitals, which is why the Russian want to destroy them.

Posted by: Ripley at March 11, 2022 01:05 PM (MxEKc)

396
Do they make an Angry Ewok voice version? Because that would be cool.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 11, 2022 01:04 PM (SH2Zi)

I wonder if there's a Waze addon......

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 01:05 PM (Zz0t1)

397 Put your pants on people. Julie Kelly is here.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 11, 2022 01:05 PM (ptqGC)

398 369 I'm gonna try this text to voice thing. Ace That was a whole lot of truth. Horde I miss you all.
Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at March 11, 2022 01:00 PM (0OmEj)

How are you and the wife doing?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 11, 2022 01:05 PM (XvPQV)

399 @julie_kelly2

Phenomenal write-up by Ace on the regime/media subterfuge on Ukraine's bio-weapons facilities that are totally legit and not owned the the Defense Department or something:
.......

Uh oh. Where's my pants?

Posted by: wth at March 11, 2022 01:05 PM (v0R5T)

400 A synonym for "biodefense research" is "medical research." Another synonym is "disease pathogen research" ... you know like basically every US university with a biology department does (with funding from the US government!).

It's fine to be contrarian. It's not fine to be a mindless contrarian such that you just to end up gulping down propaganda from the side that happens to be presently shelling cities on one pretextual reason coughed up after another. "Hey, look there's some Nazi! Oh, not buying that one? Uh, there's some Globohomos! How about bioweapons research? That do it for you? I have others."

Posted by: Match Checksout at March 11, 2022 01:06 PM (dYe5S)

401 Those smart asses at the Babylon Bee . . .

Biden Signs 'Don't Say Gas' Bill

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 11, 2022 01:06 PM (FVME7)

402 Put your pants on people. Julie Kelly is here.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 11, 2022 01:05 PM (ptqGC)

Wait......what?

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 01:06 PM (Zz0t1)

403 Yay. Got my 4K of Citizen Kane and my Complete Jacques Tati.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 11, 2022 01:06 PM (LvTSG)

404 mikethemoose we also gave Russia our word that we didn't need to expand NATO eastward.

Again I am in Putin's corner, in as much as I am any corner because:
1 he is not a fan of Worldgov
2 He does not directly threaten the US
3 The people in Crimea and the Donbass may very well want to no longer be part of Ukraine and if Ukraine does join NATO, the Ukrainians will invade and slaughter them and all the people who are crying for the Ukrainians won't give a crap.

Anybody who actually cared would have told the Ukrainians you aren't getting in NATO What can we do to ensure the citizens of the Donbass and Crimea have a fair referendum since they have the SAME RIGHT to leave Ukraine as Ukraine had to leave the USSR.

Posted by: Button Pushing Monkey at March 11, 2022 01:06 PM (EcHpA)

405 >> Maybe they are actually children maternity hospitals, which is why the Russian want to destroy them.

Personally, I think the Ukranians have the palestinians helping with their Press Releases.

Posted by: garrett at March 11, 2022 01:06 PM (lhr6a)

406 >>A solid on Soros means taking care of his whole family

And ALL of his friends and associates.

Posted by: garrett at March 11, 2022 01:01 PM (lhr6a)

That doesn't befuddle me, as long as I get my solid next Friday.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 11, 2022 01:06 PM (SH2Zi)

407 > Is this a real thing?

Honestly, I have no idea. I've heard it's a thing, but it could just be a few people tried it and the rumor mills went crazy. When I first got to BYU, they warned us that running off to Vegas to get married, have sex for the weekend, then do a quickie divorce, was not a legitimate workaround to the Law of Chastity. Did that happen? I'm sure it did. Was it common? I have no idea.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 11, 2022 01:06 PM (8/9Tc)

408 Missed it by >< much.

Posted by: wth at March 11, 2022 01:06 PM (v0R5T)

409 Meritocracy or traits such as a hard work ethic are not racist

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All I know is it doesn't fit in with my lifestyle.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 11, 2022 01:06 PM (FVME7)

410 Put your pants on people. Julie Kelly is here.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 11, 2022 01:05 PM (ptqGC)

Wait......what?

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 01:06 PM (Zz0t1)

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She just tweeted a shout-out to Ace and this thread.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 11, 2022 01:07 PM (ptqGC)

411 Yet they'll still pull their chairs up to the idiot box and listen intently once again to the same liars who shoveled them s*** only just prior. I wish it wasn't so.
Posted by: Lady in Black at March 11, 2022 01:03 PM (sVtYq)

Gell-Mann Amnesia.

Posted by: Ordinary American at March 11, 2022 01:07 PM (H8QX8)

412 Robert Barnes on Live w/ The Duran right now.

Posted by: garrett at March 11, 2022 01:07 PM (lhr6a)

413 Be on your best behavior for a few minutes.

Posted by: wth at March 11, 2022 01:07 PM (v0R5T)

414 When the Soviet Union imploded, the common reason cited by the cognoscenti was "the Soviet system was brought down by its own internal contradictions."

It seems to me it's time to revisit that idea in a slightly different context.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at March 11, 2022 01:08 PM (sWM8x)

415 ------------

She just tweeted a shout-out to Ace and this thread.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 11, 2022 01:07 PM (ptqGC)

I know, but pants?

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 01:08 PM (Zz0t1)

416 National Review, is this what you signed up for when you started cashing Google's checks?
==
Why yes. Yes it is?

More caviar, Rich?

Posted by: Ramesh at March 11, 2022 01:08 PM (ZwFK4)

417 I worked for CTR and was in Ukraine. We did the border security stuff. When I left it was because CTR is all Bio Lab business with no real stated purpose other than to lock down bio weapon talent and get them off the market. The other reason, the primary one, was to be provocative towards Russia. The Bio Lab in Georgia that CTR built has an operating budget greater than the entire Georgia Defense Budget. The way they solved this problem was to have US Army fund the bio lab. This is within 30 miles of the Russian border. The entire leadership of CTR was stroking themselves when Obama won election. This is what your tax dollars do.

Posted by: Puddinhead at March 11, 2022 01:09 PM (4vi12)

418 @julie_kelly2

Phenomenal write-up by Ace on the regime/media subterfuge on Ukraine's bio-weapons facilities that are totally legit and not owned the the Defense Department or something:
.......

Uh oh. Where's my pants?

====

Indeed...

Posted by: runner at March 11, 2022 01:09 PM (eXZrW)

419 Robert Barnes on Live w/ The Duran right now.
Posted by: garrett at March 11, 2022 01:07 PM (lhr6a)

Hungry Like the Wolf!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 01:09 PM (Zz0t1)

420 Those are not the BioWeapons you are looking for.

You can go on your way.

Those bio weapons only look like bio weapons they're not real bio weapons. They're so we can tell what real bio weapons look like.

Like Whooopis its not rape rape. These are not deadly bio weapons They just look like bio weapons that are deadly.

It's always the coverup. We expect them to lie but once you are caught and caught clean with no fudging around you have to at least come close to admitting it otherwise we don't believe you should be in charge of a short bus route that goes around the block.

Posted by: jakee308 at March 11, 2022 01:09 PM (9RkRx)

421 Like, a purchase price? Do I get a bill of sale and legal title? What kind of warranty do they come with?
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 11, 2022 12:57 PM (II3Gr)

Yes, a purchase price, some haggling may be involved. But you know, I don't know if it's a documented thing or informal. As for Warranty..ah...that's funny.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 11, 2022 01:09 PM (XvPQV)

422 She just tweeted a shout-out to Ace and this thread.
Posted by: Jane D'oh

Crap. I just put them in the wash.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at March 11, 2022 01:09 PM (egg9a)

423 334 just don't marry a local, you literally have to pay for her. One of my co-workers did just that.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 11, 2022 12:52 PM (XvPQV)
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If she stays bought, I can think of worse ways to go about it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 11, 2022 12:54 PM (DU+/6)

They do. Ask any ex-pat. I witnessed some happy relationships there. Very few bad ones.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at March 11, 2022 01:09 PM (Fs5vw)

424 Off dumb, fat Amy sock.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at March 11, 2022 01:09 PM (egg9a)

425 I don't particularly care that a foreign country that doesn't threaten the US has a bioweapons program. Most countries do. I guess in a perfect world I'd like no one to have these programs, but I also don't worry about it. Countries are going to make weapons.

I don't think anyone particularly cares whether Ukraine is independently developing biological weapons.

The concern is that labs physically located in Ukraine, nominally owned by Ukraine, are being funded by, and therefore serve the purposes of, the US federal government, a rogue regime with a recent history of developing and unleashing a biological weapon indiscriminately (which is 99% redundant when it comes to bioweapons), Covid 19, with the ostensible purpose (if we are to apply Occam's Razor to what is known without doubt at this point), of hooking the entire population of the planet on semi-annual "vaccine" boosters, creating cash flow for all the co-conspirators.

Posted by: Methos at March 11, 2022 01:10 PM (kOpft)

426 I'm gonna try this text to voice thing. Ace That was a whole lot of truth. Horde I miss you all.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still.
==
Dood!

Well met.

Posted by: simplemind at March 11, 2022 01:10 PM (VIj48)

427 Off dumb, fat Amy sock.
Posted by: Amy Schumer at March 11, 2022 01:09 PM (egg9a)

It didn't work.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 01:10 PM (Zz0t1)

428 424 Off dumb, fat Amy sock.
Posted by: Amy Schumer at March 11, 2022 01:09 PM (egg9a)

=========

That's pretty funny.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 11, 2022 01:10 PM (LvTSG)

429 Tell me if you've ever been polled.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 11, 2022 01:10 PM (QDHRF)

430 Gell-Mann Amnesia.
Posted by: Ordinary American at March 11, 2022 01:07 PM (H8QX

This is where I am on the Olliver Stone movie.

He comes up with whacky shit, why should I believe him know ?

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 11, 2022 01:10 PM (M+Lyo)

431 Willow, you forgot to mention that Zelenski is Churchill and George Washington rolled into one.

Posted by: runner at March 11, 2022 01:10 PM (eXZrW)

432 Funny how they had to remove a picture of a brave female Ukrainian freedom fighter because she had the emblem of the fictional Azov regiment who totally don't exist and who aren't fans of the Ukrainian SS division which didn't fight much but killed jews like they were on special.

Posted by: Button Pushing Monkey at March 11, 2022 01:11 PM (EcHpA)

433 Tell me if you've ever been polled.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 11, 2022 01:10 PM (QDHRF)

I'm not gay nor have I been in prison.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 01:11 PM (Zz0t1)

434 414 When the Soviet Union imploded, the common reason cited by the cognoscenti was "the Soviet system was brought down by its own internal contradictions."

It seems to me it's time to revisit that idea in a slightly different context.
------------------
Long term a society based on endless lies collapses. This is what happened in USSR. People just stopped going to work.

Posted by: Puddinhead at March 11, 2022 01:11 PM (4vi12)

435 The problem with technology is that it allows the stupid to thrive.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 11, 2022 01:11 PM (p+1gI)

436 @julie_kelly2

Phenomenal write-up by Ace on the regime/media subterfuge on Ukraine's bio-weapons facilities that are totally legit and not owned the the Defense Department or something:
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 11, 2022 01:02 PM (ptqGC)

--

Wow, that's awesome! He deserves the recognition. Face it, the guy deserves his own show.

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 11, 2022 01:11 PM (sVtYq)

437 Julie comes here for the Comments.

I doubt she'd want us commenting with our pants on. Which would stifle our productivity.

Posted by: garrett at March 11, 2022 01:11 PM (lhr6a)

438 I have trouble picturing Nazi Pelosi giving up Russian caviar.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh. at March 11, 2022 01:11 PM (eGTCV)

439 CBS "News" article titled:

"3 reasons why gas prices are so high- and when they might come down"

Shockingly, Keystone XL is not a reason. Neither is the Biden EO shutting down all new drilling.

What is a reason? Due to the booming Biden economy, demand is up. So are prices. So you see, $4 gas is a good thing.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at March 11, 2022 01:12 PM (OalnH)

440 Put your pants on people. Julie Kelly is here.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 11, 2022 01:05 PM (ptqGC)

If she starts using the term "fartclam" in here articles, you will know its true

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 11, 2022 01:12 PM (M+Lyo)

441 But what I do care about is the endless, endless remorseless lies from the government, and the insistence that we are not allowed to ask questions. And that if we point out that their obvious lies are in fact obviously lies, we're Russian Agents.

What have you done with ace?

Or is Ace a different cat than ace?

Posted by: blaster at March 11, 2022 01:12 PM (9otr5)

442 The problem with technology is that it allows the stupid to thrive.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 11, 2022 01:11 PM (p+1gI)
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Nah, stupid has always thrived. It just never had the reach technology has given it.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at March 11, 2022 01:12 PM (5pTK/)

443 She just tweeted a shout-out to Ace and this thread.
Posted by: Jane D'oh

Well-deserved. I will be hitting the tip jar, so Ace can afford some more kibble for the weekend.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 11, 2022 01:12 PM (SH2Zi)

444 400 A synonym for "biodefense research" is "medical research." Another synonym is "disease pathogen research" ... you know like basically every US university with a biology department does (with funding from the US government!).

It's fine to be contrarian. It's not fine to be a mindless contrarian such that you just to end up gulping down propaganda from the side that happens to be presently shelling cities on one pretextual reason coughed up after another. "Hey, look there's some Nazi! Oh, not buying that one? Uh, there's some Globohomos! How about bioweapons research? That do it for you? I have others."
Posted by: Match Checksout at March 11, 2022 01:06 PM (dYe5S)

While the neo-nazis and globohomos are not the driving reason for the invasion of Ukraine, it's already pretty well established that they have both. Probably more of the former than the latter.

Really sure you want to hold onto the bioweapons one? like ace said, it's not exactly the biggest deal in the world to have bioweapons labs.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at March 11, 2022 01:12 PM (z5Vrg)

445 Need a cigarette after that, ace, and I don't even smoke (well, cigars don't count).

Gold.

ace has such an intelligent comic talent that I laugh even when I'm not quite sure of the pop culture reference (which is, um, frequent).

Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2022 01:13 PM (OTzUX)

446 They know that if blacks start voting like Asians (80-20) instead of what they traditionally do (90-10), they lose presidential elections forever.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 11, 2022 01:00 PM (LvTSG)

And the pandering they're doing to try and prevent that is one of the things pushing the hispanics away.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at March 11, 2022 01:13 PM (nR2nR)

447
What have you done with ace?

Or is Ace a different cat than ace?
Posted by: blaster at March 11, 2022 01:12 PM (9otr5)

Same guy. Capital 'A' ace is like wearing your best suit and tie.

Lower case ace is the Best Ace.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 01:13 PM (Zz0t1)

448 First, totally agreed about the endless lying.

But:

"Again, I want to stress that, personally, I don't really care if Ukraine has bioweapons labs."

I do. The Ukraine is utterly corrupt and basically a Third World country in Europe. There is a reason there is a strong push against nuclear proliferation.

They probably are lying because they just lie. All the time.

But this may be worse than just "everybody's doin' it, meh." And I bet it is.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 11, 2022 01:13 PM (nMx88)

449 Julie comes here for the Comments.

I doubt she'd want us commenting with our pants on. Which would stifle our productivity.
Posted by: garrett at March 11, 2022 01:11 PM (lhr6a)

Plus there's all the chafing

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 11, 2022 01:13 PM (XvPQV)

450 The problem with technology is that it allows the stupid to thrive.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at March 11, 2022 01:11 PM (p+1gI)

Gold BC, that's gold there. I will have to remember that one

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 11, 2022 01:14 PM (M+Lyo)

451 Runner he's not all that. I just don't want to see the u.s.s.r again in my lifetime

Posted by: willow at March 11, 2022 01:14 PM (2frzx)

452 Philip Klein
@philipaklein
I can't recall ever seeing a poll like this. WSJ finds Republicans up 9 pts among Hispanics, and at 27% among black voters

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The ~~fat lady~~ Whoopsie Goldberg may be singing.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 11, 2022 01:14 PM (FVME7)

453 28% of Americans who say enforcing a 'no-fly zone' over Ukraine is a good idea also say they oppose shooting down Russian military planes

*facepalm*

https://bit.ly/3t4kixe

Posted by: bonhomme at March 11, 2022 01:14 PM (8/9Tc)

454 "I said "since 1991" yesterday, but apparently the US entered this very, very long project to pour bleach on Soviet bioweapons in 2005. Seventeen years ago.

Seventeen years ago, and they still haven't gotten the cap off the bleach."

I wish I could write like that.

Posted by: profligatewaste at March 11, 2022 01:14 PM (Be3jb)

455 Part of the problem for the Deep State/globalist is that there are no dark skinned people in Ukraine to be the victims that must be helped and not questioned or doubted about their motives. No magic "racist" spell to make everybody shut-up.

Posted by: Ripley at March 11, 2022 01:14 PM (MxEKc)

456 Tell me if you've ever been polled.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 11, 2022 01:10 PM (QDHRF)

***

There was this one time at Band Camp...

Posted by: Fur Lined Crocs at March 11, 2022 01:15 PM (flINI)

457 Funny how they had to remove a picture of a brave female Ukrainian freedom fighter because she had the emblem of the fictional Azov regiment who totally don't exist and who aren't fans of the Ukrainian SS division which didn't fight much but killed jews like they were on special.

===

Any word on removing photos with soldiers where Bohdan Khmelnytsky got into the frame??

Posted by: runner at March 11, 2022 01:15 PM (eXZrW)

458 Ahem:

J6 committee seeks to criminalize Republican fundraising. The Federalist:

https://tinyurl.com/h57p5exx

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 11, 2022 01:15 PM (ptqGC)

459 Part of the problem for the Deep State/globalist is that there are no dark skinned people in Ukraine to be the victims that must be helped and not questioned or doubted about their motives. No magic "racist" spell to make everybody shut-up.

Posted by: Ripley at March 11, 2022 01:14 PM (MxEKc)

Somebody socked Whoopi with the "meh, it's just white people" early on. Timing was impeccable.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 11, 2022 01:16 PM (SH2Zi)

460 Haven't you watched Princess Bride,
Old lower case ace has retired with his Harvey Coffee ad bucks to a warm location with even hotter babes. The new capitalized Ace is the new Dread Blogger Ace after apprenticing for years. He will be your new master.
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Or is Ace a different cat than ace?

Posted by: blaster

Posted by: whig at March 11, 2022 01:16 PM (Iq9dF)

461 Every single pixel of this. Every single one.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at March 11, 2022 01:16 PM (GbPPJ)

462
Indeed,

Stenographers.

Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 name in news at March 11, 2022 01:16 PM (rjIKj)

463 Pants? Damn - honey, can I have my pants back?

Posted by: Boswell at March 11, 2022 01:16 PM (5iUNf)

464 The choice thing about the constant farrago of lies and fairy tales pumped out by Brandon's minions (Brandon never lies; if all he ever says is 'I wanna ice cream!!' then you know DAMN well he wanna ice cream!) is that it's lapped up by the same crowd that wet their panties over Trump's 'CONSTANT LIES ELEVENTY!!11!!'.

You know, like 'If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor!'

It's all herp derp, all the way down.

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at March 11, 2022 01:16 PM (oedLL)

465 Every single pixel of this. Every single one.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at March 11, 2022 01:16 PM (GbPPJ)

Even the white ones?

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 11, 2022 01:16 PM (SH2Zi)

466 Indeed,

Stenographers.
Posted by: Soothsayer, the #1 name in news at March 11, 2022 01:16 PM (rjIKj)
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Nah, stenographers have to master a skill. They're just parrots.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 11, 2022 01:17 PM (DU+/6)

467 28% of Americans who say enforcing a 'no-fly zone' over Ukraine is a good idea also say they oppose shooting down Russian military planes

--

When I want to feel safe and secure about military operations, I go straight to the American people, who are known for their acumen on any given subject. /s

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 11, 2022 01:17 PM (sVtYq)

468 452 Philip Klein
@philipaklein
I can't recall ever seeing a poll like this. WSJ finds Republicans up 9 pts among Hispanics, and at 27% among black voters

-
The fat lady Whoopsie Goldberg may be singing.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 11, 2022 01:14 PM (FVME7)

===========

I'm beginning to suspect that Republicans have been pulling actual support from blacks at about 15-20% in presidential elections, but the cheating from places like Philly drags the numbers down to the single digits in every election.

If PA ever gets another Republican governor, their first effort needs to be cleaning up Philly voting. Like...prosecutions, jail time, disbarments, impeachments, and back alley accidents.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 11, 2022 01:17 PM (LvTSG)

469 Pants? Damn - honey, can I have my pants back?
Posted by: Boswell at March 11, 2022 01:16 PM (5iUNf)

*shuffles off to Goodwill*

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 01:17 PM (Zz0t1)

470 You forgot "I can't believe I ate the whole thing" and "That's a spicy meataball."

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 11, 2022 01:17 PM (lKAqb)

471
I do. The Ukraine is utterly corrupt and basically a Third World country in Europe
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heh, they are less corrupt than Moldova. Winter Home of the Gypsies and final resting place for the 8th Soviet Army. If you need a ground to air missle just go to the farmer's market and let the locals know what you are looking for. Someone will contact you.

Posted by: Puddinhead at March 11, 2022 01:17 PM (4vi12)

472 The White House is briefing TikTok stars about the war in Ukraine
With millions getting their information about the war from the platform, the administration wants to get its message to top content creators.

https://tinyurl.com/ab6jrr6a

Posted by: redridinghood at March 11, 2022 01:17 PM (NpAcC)

473 alex.alex.alex

Posted by: willow at March 11, 2022 01:17 PM (2frzx)

474 Nah, stenographers have to master a skill. They're just parrots.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 11, 2022 01:17 PM (DU+/6)

Which is why the "I support the current thing" meme is so effective.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 11, 2022 01:17 PM (SH2Zi)

475 *smishes willow*

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at March 11, 2022 01:18 PM (GbPPJ)

476 28% of Americans who say enforcing a 'no-fly zone' over Ukraine is a good idea also say they oppose shooting down Russian military planes

*facepalm*

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Hashtag air superiority. It kinda like the pen is mightier than the sword.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 11, 2022 01:18 PM (FVME7)

477 *smishes willow*
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at March 11, 2022 01:18 PM (GbPPJ)

That's hot.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 01:18 PM (Zz0t1)

478 Listening to some bint talking about Zelensky. I think she's getting ready to puddle. I wonder when Zelensky will be a Rolling Stone cover boy?

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 11, 2022 01:18 PM (lz5hY)

479 So...no fly zones are, like, promises that Putin won't fly there, right? Like, and stuff?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 11, 2022 01:18 PM (LvTSG)

480 As Lee Smith told me, brilliantly, every good investigative journalist is a little bit crazy.

Hence, Robert Stacy McCain. You can't out crazy Stacy McCain....

Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 11, 2022 01:18 PM (7bRMQ)

481 https://tinyurl.com/2p8h3ste
Dr. Stephen Hatfill (USAMRID bioweapons expert that Mueller's FBI tried to frame for the 2001 Anthrax incident) thinks the hoopla about biolabs in Ukraine is a much of media nonsense and the right is getting played.

Posted by: OhNoNotTheBees at March 11, 2022 01:19 PM (TEWKg)

482 Listening to some bint talking about Zelensky. I think she's getting ready to puddle. I wonder when Zelensky will be a Rolling Stone cover boy?
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 11, 2022 01:18 PM (lz5hY)

As soon as he kills Americans.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 01:19 PM (Zz0t1)

483 Match Checksout, oh sure the russki propaganda lines are silly, but it's stupid to pretend away the real reasons for the invasion, which will - as if by magic - be the main or only items in an eventual settlement.

Ukraine's military future. Crimea sovereignty. D and L. The first one being 98.74% of what matters to Moscow.

As someone I know put it recently - the key issue for the west here is making sure Russia does not, by force, prevent Ukraine from joining an alliance we've been keeping them out of for decades, for good reasons having a lot to do with the unacknowledged but real special sensitivity of Ukraine's status.

Oh, and if that one fails to resonate because lack of background on the last 30 years, then an equally funny one is that it is critical, especially to western Europe, to preserve the concepts of borders and sovereignty. And if you don't get that one, then there's a whole lot of homework and catch-up required.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2022 01:19 PM (OTzUX)

484 >>>28% of Americans who say enforcing a 'no-fly zone' over Ukraine is a good idea also say they oppose shooting down Russian military planes

That's real retarded, sir.

Posted by: Rachel Genteal at March 11, 2022 01:19 PM (SH2Zi)

485 28% of Americans who say enforcing a 'no-fly zone' over Ukraine is a good idea also say they oppose shooting down Russian military planes

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Just hang the "This is a No-Fly Zone" signs. What's the big deal?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 11, 2022 01:19 PM (UuD2k)

486 Smishes and kisses Alex.

Posted by: willow at March 11, 2022 01:19 PM (2frzx)

487 Director of the Pixar / Disney movie "Turning Red" says, "I just want people to discover that girls can be as weird and pervy and strange as boys can be with this movie."

Burn Disney down.

https://bit.ly/3MMNf8O

Posted by: bonhomme at March 11, 2022 01:19 PM (8/9Tc)

488 417 I worked for CTR and was in Ukraine. We did the border security stuff. When I left it was because CTR is all Bio Lab business with no real stated purpose other than to lock down bio weapon talent and get them off the market. The other reason, the primary one, was to be provocative towards Russia. The Bio Lab in Georgia that CTR built has an operating budget greater than the entire Georgia Defense Budget. The way they solved this problem was to have US Army fund the bio lab. This is within 30 miles of the Russian border. The entire leadership of CTR was stroking themselves when Obama won election. This is what your tax dollars do. Posted by: Puddinhead
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Thx for the info. Knew a similar US payoff jobs program was done for nuke scientists in the new independent states when the SovUnion went belly up so makes sense that it was done for chem and bio warfare specialists.

Posted by: whig at March 11, 2022 01:19 PM (Iq9dF)

489 Lower case ace is the Best Ace.
Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 01:13 PM (Zz0t1)

Disagree. Uppercase Ace is manly and virile, and sooo dreamy.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 11, 2022 01:19 PM (Ez6QX)

490 478 Listening to some bint talking about Zelensky. I think she's getting ready to puddle. I wonder when Zelensky will be a Rolling Stone cover boy?
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 11, 2022 01:18 PM (lz5hY)

Presumably before NYC is vaporized.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 11, 2022 01:20 PM (nMx88)

491 Maybe it's just me, but it seems like there is a significant overlap between the folks who insisted that Trump v Hillary and Trump v Biden was NOT a binary choice, and those insisting that Uke v Rus is a binary choice. Weird.

Posted by: Winston Wolfe at March 11, 2022 01:20 PM (9KXDf)

492 The White House is briefing TikTok stars about the war in Ukraine
With millions getting their information about the war from the platform, the administration wants to get its message to top content creators.

https://tinyurl.com/ab6jrr6a
Posted by: redridinghood at March 11, 2022 01:17 PM (NpAcC)
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Why not? It'll probably even work, at least to some degree. And there's no reason it shouldn't. Poorly-educated, half-naked teenagers dancing to regurgitated talking points are no less credible than anyone else in the wider press complex.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 11, 2022 01:20 PM (DU+/6)

493
Disagree. Uppercase Ace is manly and virile, and sooo dreamy.
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 11, 2022 01:19 PM (Ez6QX)

You must've mistaken me with garrett. I don't roll that way.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 01:20 PM (Zz0t1)

494 I buy these meatballs at the deli that give me some serious heartburn the next day.
You'd think I'd quit buying them.

Posted by: wth at March 11, 2022 01:21 PM (v0R5T)

495 492 Why not? It'll probably even work, at least to some degree. And there's no reason it shouldn't. Poorly-educated, half-naked teenagers dancing to regurgitated talking points are no less credible than anyone else in the wider press complex.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 11, 2022 01:20 PM (DU+/6)

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They're not serious until they get the stars of OnlyFans in there.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 11, 2022 01:21 PM (LvTSG)

496 Everybody's going on with the line "Putin's has no excuse to attack Ukraine" without thinking about what their saying. It's reflexive without objectively looking at the Russian perspective. History didn't start two weeks ago. Nation states don't need to make excuses, they have interests. It is in the interest of Russia to show how abnegation of agreements have consequences. It is in the interest of the US and the UK to not have a coterie of spies, NGOs and self serving bureaucrats make decisions that are antithetical to the people of their respective nations.

Posted by: Minuteman at March 11, 2022 01:21 PM (LaNzR)

497 487 Director of the Pixar / Disney movie "Turning Red" says, "I just want people to discover that girls can be as weird and pervy and strange as boys can be with this movie."

Burn Disney down.

https://bit.ly/3MMNf8O

Posted by: bonhomme
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Devil Mouse at it again. I see their empire is a shiny attractive combine for for impressionable yutes to turn them towards darkness.

Posted by: whig at March 11, 2022 01:21 PM (Iq9dF)

498 Hence, Robert Stacy McCain. You can't out crazy Stacy McCain....
Posted by: OrangeEnt at March 11, 2022 01:18 PM (7bRMQ)

Heh, this may or may not be true/

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 11, 2022 01:21 PM (M+Lyo)

499 485 "Hate has no home in this no fly zone".

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 11, 2022 01:21 PM (lz5hY)

500 J6 committee seeks to criminalize Republican fundraising. The Federalist:

https://tinyurl.com/h57p5exx

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It's things like this that solidify my belief that Liz Cheney needs to be turned inside out and thrown into the desert so buzzards can peck her skeleton clean.

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 11, 2022 01:21 PM (sVtYq)

501 Poorly-educated, half-naked teenagers dancing to regurgitated talking points are no less credible than anyone else in the wider press complex.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 11, 2022 01:20 PM (DU+/6)

That is the future press conference.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 11, 2022 01:21 PM (UuD2k)

502 Director of the Pixar / Disney movie "Turning Red" says, "I just want people to discover that girls can be as weird and pervy and strange as boys can be with this movie."

Burn Disney down.

https://bit.ly/3MMNf8O
Posted by: bonhomme at March 11, 2022 01:19 PM (8/9Tc)
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Pixar was the only outfit putting out children's/family movies worth a damn. Then they merged with Disney.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 11, 2022 01:21 PM (DU+/6)

503 You must've mistaken me with garrett. I don't roll that way.
Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 01:20 PM (Zz0t1)

Not even for Ace? Sad.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 11, 2022 01:21 PM (Ez6QX)

504 The question is not whether Ukraine has bio labs - the question is whether the US has been funding research in those labs that would be illegal to do in the US, like it was doing in Wuhan.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at March 11, 2022 12:14 PM (I2/tG)

It would be the ultimate irony if there's truth to the story Putin has asked the UN to look at the evidence he's collected on these biolabs. And there was actually something to it! I'd break a rib from laughing - and sadly it would make a lot of sense looking at the panic coming from the swamp.
Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at March 11, 2022 12:29 PM (wAnMi)

The Chinese made a statement calling for the UN to do the same thing, based on Nuland's statement that these are unsecured in a war zone.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 11, 2022 01:22 PM (eoQWY)

505 167/136 Why is Gutfield "on the shelf?"

Reportedly, his producers helped his wife get her mother out of the Ukraine.

In fact, the producers filmed his wife meeting her mother in Poland and it played on Fox.

Posted by: Lola at March 11, 2022 01:22 PM (xjz83)

506 Got to disagree... I do care that Ukraine has bio weapon labs... labs that WE ARE BUILDING, FUNDING, and SUPPORTING in third world shit holes.

Especially when Bio Weapons are considered Weapons of mass destruction, and nuclear response is on the table... and we are doing it on Russias BORDER????

Lets play what if. What if Russia decided that it was time for Mexican Drug Cartels, to be able to build Nuke Plants, just south of the Rio Grande... I think we might have a bit of an issue with that.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 11, 2022 01:22 PM (oHd/0)

507 Ok Jessie. I have my pants on. And they are the good SpongeBob pants without pizza stains.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 11, 2022 01:22 PM (qnVBz)

508 The lies aren't working and they can't tell the truth. USA Today fact checks the Babylon Bee and Joe blames Putin for the sky-high price of US gas.

Posted by: mrp at March 11, 2022 01:22 PM (6eRlp)

509 479 So...no fly zones are, like, promises that Putin won't fly there, right? Like, and stuff?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 11, 2022 01:18 PM (LvTSG)

Wow. You know, if that's, like, true, that would be totally amazeballs.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at March 11, 2022 01:22 PM (Fs5vw)

510 I'll try to have my last comment on this post.
First ace touched on everything perfectly .
Second. No Americans killed for these assholes. It should be on Europe to learn to pay with their own blood and treasure.

Posted by: willow at March 11, 2022 01:22 PM (2frzx)

511 BTW - Ace, that was masterfully executed DESTRUCTION.

Just professional enough to be taken seriously, and not Namby Pamby fake civility and careful hedging to avoid sensibilities. Logical but will just the right amount of indignation, but not before you laid out the facts supporting that indignation. And lightly sprinkled comedic turns to keep it interesting.

You were always great. In all honesty, you are getting better. Its fun to watch.

Posted by: simplemind at March 11, 2022 01:22 PM (fEbUj)

512 That is the future press conference.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 11, 2022 01:21 PM (UuD2k)
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Under President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Camacho.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 11, 2022 01:22 PM (DU+/6)

513 Just don't marry a local, you literally have to pay for her. One of my co-workers did just that.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 11, 2022 12:52 PM (XvPQV)
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That is true throughout all of SE Asia. It's the dowry. In those parts of the world, it works in opposite to how it used to work in the west. In the west, the dowry was paid by the woman's family to the man. In the east, it's paid by the man's family to the woman. It still in effect today and it affects all levels of socio-economic status.

I once dated a Pinay who's family was offered $7 million as a dowry. No joke. Yes, she was gorgeous but she was also educated in the West, lived in USA for a while, and came from a prestigious, upper-class family with long ties to the ruling Philippine government. The suitor came from a crazy rich family but had no standing in the country. So the dowry was an attempt to ingratiate his family into high society.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 11, 2022 01:23 PM (iFTx/)

514 I was polled once. ONCE.
~the villain from Johnny Dangerously

Kevin Smith compared Disney to the golden calf in Dogma, and now he's completely beholden to him. Well maybe being a Star Wars nerd is like that.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 11, 2022 01:23 PM (44ww/)

515 Polling showing black support for the GOP at such high levels simply can't be squared with black turnout for Biden (who had no campaign and was basically invisible) in Milwaukee and Detroit and a few other select places exceeding that for Obama.

Oh - and in one of the glaring anomalies never before seen in a prez election, Biden's performance with black voters in every other major urban area lagged that in just a few key cities. Huh.

So the polling must be wrong.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2022 01:23 PM (OTzUX)

516 Just hang the "This is a No-Fly Zone" signs. What's the big deal?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe

It'll work just as well gun free zones work in schools.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 11, 2022 01:23 PM (FVME7)

517 Funny how they had to remove a picture of a brave female Ukrainian freedom fighter because she had the emblem of the fictional Azov regiment who totally don't exist and who aren't fans of the Ukrainian SS division which didn't fight much but killed jews like they were on special.

===

Any word on removing photos with soldiers where Bohdan Khmelnytsky got into the frame??
Posted by: runner

Have you seen the video clip of "dead Uke civilians" with tarps over them and the wind blows a corner up and an arm reaches out from under and grabs the corner?

Posted by: Amy Schumer at March 11, 2022 01:23 PM (egg9a)

518 >>>28% of Americans who say enforcing a 'no-fly zone' over Ukraine is a good idea also say they oppose shooting down Russian military planes

That's real retarded, sir.
Posted by: Rachel Genteal at March 11, 2022 01:19 PM (SH2Zi)

So they favor giving tickets to the Russian planes?

Posted by: Oldcat at March 11, 2022 01:24 PM (eoQWY)

519 BTW - Ace, that was masterfully executed DESTRUCTION.

Shoot - sorry about the typos above. My early dementia creeping up on me today.

Posted by: simplemind at March 11, 2022 01:24 PM (VIj48)

520 >>Not even for Ace? Sad.

He's projecting .
He's always lying to ace.
Telling ace that he is his First!

When we all know the truth.

Posted by: garrett at March 11, 2022 01:24 PM (lhr6a)

521 Wolfe sock off- also, and I mentioned this yesterday, feel like we'd probably consider Russia extending an invitation to Canada to join the Warsaw pact a bit of a provocation- especially if the majority of Alberta was expat Americans seeking reunion with the States.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 11, 2022 01:24 PM (9KXDf)

522 , they are less corrupt than Moldova. Winter Home of the Gypsies and final resting place for the 8th Soviet Army. If you need a ground to air missle just go to the farmer's market and let the locals know what you are looking for. Someone will contact you.
Posted by: Puddinhead a

Moldova sucks! - Frank Moses

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at March 11, 2022 01:24 PM (Vxu+H)

523 499 485 "Hate has no home in this no fly zone".
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 11, 2022 01:21 PM (lz5hY)

That's a damned near perfect distillation of America circa 2022.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 11, 2022 01:24 PM (nMx88)

524 Pants are against the Moron Way.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at March 11, 2022 01:24 PM (GbPPJ)

525 Off damn sock

Posted by: rickb223 at March 11, 2022 01:24 PM (egg9a)

526 458 Ahem:

J6 committee seeks to criminalize Republican fundraising. The Federalist:

https://tinyurl.com/h57p5exx

Posted by: Jane D'oh
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Good. That hurts GOPe where it sits.
It is about time that McConnell gets off his fat ass to protect his grifting fundraising and that goes for Ronna too as well as all the repugnant GOPe campaign apparatus.

Posted by: whig at March 11, 2022 01:25 PM (Iq9dF)

527 >>. So the dowry was an attempt to ingratiate his family into high society.

Or, pricing him out of the market?

Posted by: garrett at March 11, 2022 01:25 PM (lhr6a)

528 502 Pixar was the only outfit putting out children's/family movies worth a damn. Then they merged with Disney.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 11, 2022 01:21 PM (DU+/6)

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Saw a news article about how the employees of Pixar are mad at Disney the parent company because they keep shooting down gay movie ideas.

I'm pretty sure the Disney comment on the Florida anti-grooming bill was a half-hearted attempt to shut up this kind of cohort within their walls, that the statement and some small donation somewhere would be enough to get them off their backs. I think DeSantis knows this, and he's pushing Disney's management back against their woke flank, waiting for them to rebel even louder.

Disney will not depart Orlando and Port Canaveral. They just moved tens of thousands of employees there from California last year. DeSantis knows they can't actually deliver unless he lets them, and he won't let them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 11, 2022 01:25 PM (LvTSG)

529 The White House is briefing TikTok stars about the war in Ukraine

We are a deeply, deeply, deeply unserious country.

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at March 11, 2022 01:25 PM (nR2nR)

530 Pants are against the Moron Way.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at March 11, 2022 01:24 PM (GbPPJ)
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True, but we could church it up a bit by using the word "trousers" instead when debating the finer points of commenting finery.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 11, 2022 01:25 PM (DU+/6)

531 I no longer expect the US government to behave with morality or honor. But can it lie with something approaching everyday-joe intelligence? //

So, so agree, Ace. And they can't even think up a plausible lie when they start a war, or allow a war to start! People are now dying because of their incompetence and the greed of the Biden family and Clinton family and I'm sure others, who got rich from crooked Ukrainians.

Posted by: pj at March 11, 2022 01:25 PM (G1dq6)

532 Thx for the info. Knew a similar US payoff jobs program was done for nuke scientists in the new independent states when the SovUnion went belly up so makes sense that it was done for chem and bio warfare specialists.
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That was CTR's salad days. Nukes, Chemical Weapons with no Soviet goverment to bargain. When things collapsed, there were oodles of nukes and chem shells just laying around. That mission was to lock them down so they wouldn't travel south to crazy Hadji. They did good work then. Now it is a Rice Bowl Operation.

Posted by: Puddinhead at March 11, 2022 01:25 PM (4vi12)

533 The nature of people in government is to promote and persuade the public to support its agenda. The problem, as a corollary to this premise, is this nature when frustrated devolves into propaganda and persecution towards those that challenge the regime in power. Further, this nature is predicated on messianic vision of "if we only did X we could have utopia and by golly I am going to give everyone utopia, good and hard." The current state of the Marxist-Fascist Uniparty is founded on the utopian Climate Change religion and its implementation vehicle, the Green New Deal, a utopia that has zero patience for the stubborn that prefer ideas of individual freedom and liberty. By nature the current administration cannot tell the truth ever as that may lead to a situation that undermines their whole utopian vision; such heretical thoughts must be opposed with rhetorical scorched earth tactics no matter how logically ludicrous the landing or how much social and economical damage caused. This taken to extremes led to the murderous Soviet regime, gave rise to current Chicom totalitarians, and is propelling our own Uniparty towards an ever more perfect utopia.

Posted by: LostInSpace at March 11, 2022 01:25 PM (PVI4b)

534 490 478 Listening to some bint talking about Zelensky. I think she's getting ready to puddle. I wonder when Zelensky will be a Rolling Stone cover boy?
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at March 11, 2022 01:18 PM (lz5hY)

Presumably before NYC is vaporized.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 11, 2022 01:20 PM (nMx8

Mommy, look! A meteor is coming down, straight at us! It's so pretty! KAWHOOMPH

Posted by: Gref at March 11, 2022 01:26 PM (AMIL/)

535 Mini kilts are better.

Posted by: wth at March 11, 2022 01:26 PM (v0R5T)

536 NOOD !

Posted by: JT at March 11, 2022 01:27 PM (arJlL)

537 The White House is briefing TikTok stars about the war in Ukraine

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Was that big, sloppy broad that swims in Fruit Loops busy?

Posted by: Lady in Black at March 11, 2022 01:27 PM (sVtYq)

538 The best thing about Ace is that he can write a post like this in an hour on a Friday morning and still make a few more posts in the afternoon. That post alone would take a minimum of two days for any other writer/pundit on the internet.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 11, 2022 01:27 PM (qH6FZ)

539 > True, but we could church it up a bit by using the word "trousers" instead when debating the finer points of commenting finery.

In Scotland, "pants" are your undies and "trousers" are your jeans/slacks/whatever.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 11, 2022 01:28 PM (8/9Tc)

540 Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2022 01:19 PM (OTzUX)

We think of Russia as paranoid, yet, lots of their history shows that people really ARE out to get them. And NATO HAS expanded to their border.

And the world just went through the results of a Biologic 'leak'... which shut down economies. And then, it turns out the US has built and funded Bio Labs near the Russian Border?

Yeah, I'd be paranoid too. Shit....

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 11, 2022 01:28 PM (oHd/0)

541 476 28% of Americans who say enforcing a 'no-fly zone' over Ukraine is a good idea also say they oppose shooting down Russian military planes
Hashtag air superiority. It kinda like the pen is mightier than the sword. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks
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That kind of unthinking response occurs when low info voters are hit with a new question. That is why most hot takes using polling are junk results. A good pollster asks followup questions (which cost money plus increases non response rate requiring larger samples) to determine whether the response is a knee jerk based on past memories (in this case no fly zones in places like Iraq etc.) or an actual reasoned response.

Posted by: whig at March 11, 2022 01:28 PM (Iq9dF)

542 The White House is briefing TikTok stars about the war in Ukraine
With millions getting their information about the war from the platform, the administration wants to get its message to top content creators.

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War is groovy
Just like a movie
Forget that whore
Let's go to war

(Break it down, now!)

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at March 11, 2022 01:28 PM (FVME7)

543 I'm beginning to suspect that Republicans have been pulling actual support from blacks at about 15-20% in presidential elections, but the cheating from places like Philly drags the numbers down to the single digits in every election.

If PA ever gets another Republican governor, their first effort needs to be cleaning up Philly voting. Like...prosecutions, jail time, disbarments, impeachments, and back alley accidents.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at March 11, 2022 01:17 PM (LvTSG)

I agree. Registered Democrats don't vote Democrat 95-5.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 11, 2022 01:29 PM (eoQWY)

544 In other pants news:
Dua Lipa's Low-Rise Pants Take Hip Cut-outs to the Extreme

Phew. It's been two days since I've been told what Dua Lipa is wearing. Was getting worried.

Posted by: wth at March 11, 2022 01:29 PM (v0R5T)

545 377 Supposedly 70-80% of Americans polled say it's totes cool to have $5 gas since we're saving Democracy. And sadly I think those polls are accurate.
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It's not going to stay at $5 for long. And it's driving up the price of everything else we buy -- food, clothes, furniture, electronics, everything -- because that stuff is also transported (at least part of the way) by trucks, which need fuel, and the higher costs get passed along to the consumer in higher product prices.

So as that truck driver said the other day, you may think $5 or $8 a gallon gas is acceptable, but do you also think that $11 or $15 a gallon milk is acceptable? When it costs $250 to fill up your car's gas tank, and $750 for a week's worth of groceries, and your home's monthly gas and electric bills go up a few hundred percent, is it still going to be acceptable?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at March 11, 2022 01:30 PM (k4dH2)

546 What did the USSR in was the opinion cascade that caused everyone in the country to realize they all thought the same thing; the country was shit, was getting worse, was lying all the time, was dangerous to the rest of the world and the world was starting to think about doing something about it.

Sound familiar? That's where we're at right now. Covid 19 is our Chernobyl. We have injured almost the entire world, At the least we scared the shit out of all of them, made their leaders look like they have speed limit IQ's and are continuing to lie about it while meanwhile trying to distract the world from what they've done by the worse thing they're pushing in Europe.

All the while they've shown they do not have the trust or confidence of their own people nor of the top people with the money. And they're talking to others of the same ilk on what to do about the US rather than about some other country. WE'RE the eff ups this time. We're the ones who have to be forced to behave. We're the ones who've lost their way and need special guidance for a while and if we don't start moving in that direction soon they will take steps. Steps we will not like and may react violently about.

Posted by: jakee308 at March 11, 2022 01:30 PM (9RkRx)

547 Biolabs funded by the US Army within 30 miles of the Russian border, in Georgia? Huh? Where would that be? Pretty familiar with that area, not sure which town fits into that.

In any case, all kinds of "defense conversion" stuff happening in the 90s, some through USAID, some through other channels. All of it made basic sense, just as the de-nuking agreement made sense to all the parties, including the Ukes, Belarus, and Kazakhstan, who had no use for the nukes and a huge need for cash.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 11, 2022 01:30 PM (OTzUX)

548 "28% of Americans who say enforcing a 'no-fly zone' over Ukraine is a good idea also say they oppose shooting down Russian military planes."

Those same people will want the pronouns of the pilots prominently painted on fighter planes.

Posted by: Wendy at March 11, 2022 01:30 PM (Q+0aA)

549 True, but we could church it up a bit by using the word "trousers" instead when debating the finer points of commenting finery.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 11, 2022 01:25 PM (DU+/6)

Dungarees, my good man. Dungarees.

Posted by: George Will at March 11, 2022 01:31 PM (AiZBA)

550 The best thing about Ace is that he can write a post like this in an hour on a Friday morning and still make a few more posts in the afternoon. That post alone would take a minimum of two days for any other writer/pundit on the internet.
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Yeah. When he's on, there's nobody that comes close in the media to what he can do with the written word.

He has his down periods, but so what. When he's on he's one in a billion.

Posted by: simplemind at March 11, 2022 01:32 PM (++Yz6)

551
Not even for Ace? Sad.
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 11, 2022 01:21 PM (Ez6QX)

I'm sure he doesn't roll that way either, so we'll just have to be satisfied with a good fistbump.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 11, 2022 01:32 PM (Zz0t1)

552 "I no longer expect the US government to behave with morality or honor. But can it lie with something approaching everyday-joe intelligence?"

No, they can't.

Because part of the kink is forcing people to accept stupid lies

Posted by: Greg The Class Traitor at March 11, 2022 01:32 PM (XbP7q)

553 We think of Russia as paranoid, yet, lots of their history shows that people really ARE out to get them. And NATO HAS expanded to their border.

And the world just went through the results of a Biologic 'leak'... which shut down economies. And then, it turns out the US has built and funded Bio Labs near the Russian Border?

Yeah, I'd be paranoid too. Shit....
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 11, 2022 01:28 PM (oHd/0)

Yes, and even that might have been tolerable if it weren't for the relentless Saber Rattling over the pipelines in Syria, the attempt to blame them for Trump and losing the 2016 election, and then ramping up Ukraine for war.

An idle, token force enforcing overall peace might have been one thing. But we have proven our ill intent for a long time.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 11, 2022 01:33 PM (eoQWY)

554 /sock

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at March 11, 2022 01:33 PM (AiZBA)

555 "I no longer expect the US government to behave with morality or honor. But can it lie with something approaching everyday-joe intelligence?"

No, they can't.

Because part of the kink is forcing people to accept stupid lies
Posted by: Greg The Class Traitor at March 11, 2022 01:32 PM (XbP7q)

The lies are stupid because the people lying are stupid. The way they blow up in their face when reality shows up proves that.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 11, 2022 01:34 PM (eoQWY)

556 Alex Berenson has on his substack that there were no US funded labs, as in "bioweapons labs" "bioweapons labs"

"No, the United States wasn't funding bioweapons research in Ukraine; this was part of a long-running effort to pay off ex-Soviet scientists so they wouldn't take their talents to South Tehran"

Because after all, Russians would feel really comfortable going to a theocratic state that was an awful like Afghanistan ruled by people who would think them as useful prey, and hey, bioweapons experts have specialized skills, like cobblers, that are not easily transferred to other areas of research like agriculture or chickens and hog ranching, and need subsidies for MORE THAN TWENTY YEARS to keep them from running off and creating weapons on the cheap instead of finding ways of combating these emerging diseases that seem to pop up in china and Crimea and Central Africa so the world is not scarred with the effects of horrible diseases . . .

And now we have Wuhan, a vaccine that may be toxic, and we still have these massive die offs in poultry and hogs world wide. Oh, and hemorrhagic fever in Western China . . .

Posted by: Kindltot at March 11, 2022 01:35 PM (xhaym)

557 Remember what Fauci said when Rand Paul was grilling him the first time? He said they needed to get ahead of the curve on Covid viruses, meaning they need to find a cure before an outbreak of a Covid virus that can affect humans.

However, when Trump asked Fauci about a vaccine, Fauci said it would take four years. Why are we funding bioweapon research without researching a cure?

Posted by: 40 Miles North at March 11, 2022 01:36 PM (uWF4x)

558 The Russian's claim that the genetics of the local ethnicity's were being being studied to make a targeted bio-weapon.

Once the technology is created, how long will it be before a couple of these madmen decide who else they don't like? (hint: Tuskegee study?)

Posted by: Flimflamed at March 11, 2022 01:36 PM (pFx0o)

559 Ukraine, Taiwan, Poland, ...
Who would send their son to fight Russia or China at the urging of this lying Junta and it's propaganda arm.

I have no idea if we are the good guys or the bad guys. Only that I'm being lied to everyday.
Nice reporting Tucker.

Posted by: Winston Alabaster at March 11, 2022 01:37 PM (6BTho)

560 I also don't care that Israel spies on the US. The UK also spies on the US. It happens. Grown-Up Countries sometimes do Grown-Up Things. Little Kid Countries shouldn't do these things, but Grown-Up Countries can do them if they're responsible.

***

The first thing they taught me when I got into information security in the DoD arena decades ago was this:

Countries don't have friends.

Countries have interests.

These are not the same.

Posted by: Azathoth at March 11, 2022 01:37 PM (W3VUu)

561 My perspective is that these gov. research guys have figured out how to turn every project into an eternal font of grift. Like Jesus and the wine bottle, they can feed generations of researchers off even the most minor task if it really needs to be don.

I have worked with Hanford (the site in WA that has nuclear waste,...) and they don't just plan on it taking hundreds of years, but they plan on the size and scope increasing to the point where they all get promoted to Director level or VP level during the course of their career. (ref. UK MOD between the wars, and Parkinson's law)

This is the perfect grift - dealing with those labs *has* to be done, and it involves an industry (biomedical research) which is all ready on the gov. teat and knows all about that grift.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 11, 2022 12:51 PM (YvFkn)

I was thinking that building a nuclear power plant is a 10-year endeavor with a 100-year payoff, but that requires planning past the next election cycle. Can we apply this problem to this other problem?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 11, 2022 01:38 PM (44ww/)

562 I hear more vitriol aimed at Russia in an hour on social media from the Left today than I heard from the Left for the first half of my life when the Cold War was still a thing.

Posted by: Azathoth at March 11, 2022 01:40 PM (W3VUu)

563 However, when Trump asked Fauci about a vaccine, Fauci said it would take four years. Why are we funding bioweapon research without researching a cure?

Posted by: 40 Miles North at March 11, 2022 01:36 PM (uWF4x)

the vaccine is the same tech as the SARS Covid 2: transplanting the spike protein onto a carrier virus, but with the hope that they could anchor it in place to create enough of an immune response to the spkie without traveling throughout the body and causing systemic autoimmune issues.

It may not have worked

Posted by: Kindltot at March 11, 2022 01:41 PM (xhaym)

564 English novel: I will die for honor.
French novel: I will die for love.
American novel: I will die for freedom.
Russian novel: I will die.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 11, 2022 01:41 PM (44ww/)

565 Once the technology is created, how long will it be before a couple of these madmen decide who else they don't like? (hint: Tuskegee study?)
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the covid virus is nearly 100 deadly to those people with a vitamin d level below 20.

what makes you have a low vitamin d level? Lack of sunlight. So if you have to stay inside a lot. Go further. What else? Dark pigmented skin, especially if you live in a northern climate with less sunlight. Who had the highest death rates - somalis in sweden. No sun. And islamic they all wrap themselves up head to foot. Rickets level vitamin D.

PS there isn't a cold and flu season, as much as there is a low vitamin D season. Take 5000 IU of Vit D a day from Oct 1 to May 1.

Posted by: simplemind at March 11, 2022 01:42 PM (XvSwn)

566 I once dated a Pinay who's family was offered $7 million as a dowry. No joke. Yes, she was gorgeous but she was also educated in the West, lived in USA for a while, and came from a prestigious, upper-class family with long ties to the ruling Philippine government. The suitor came from a crazy rich family but had no standing in the country. So the dowry was an attempt to ingratiate his family into high society.
Posted by: Elric Blade at March 11, 2022 01:23 PM (iFTx/)

Happened a lot in Rome. Officially the Dowry was always money for the bride to live on after her husband's death, but if you were outside the inner circles status wise a marriage with an upper class family who was relatively poor could work wonders.

Gaius Marius married a Julia, daughter of Julius Caesars grandfather. He bankrolled her two brothers' senate careers and in exchange was taken seriously enough to get the praetorship that launched his route to be consul seven times.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 11, 2022 01:43 PM (eoQWY)

567 I hear more vitriol aimed at Russia in an hour on social media from the Left today than I heard from the Left for the first half of my life when the Cold War was still a thing.
Posted by: Azathoth at March 11, 2022 01:40 PM (W3VUu)

The Russians were communist back then. On side.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 11, 2022 01:44 PM (eoQWY)

568 566 I once dated a Pinay who's family was offered $7 million as a dowry. No joke. Yes, she was gorgeous but she was also educated in the West, lived in USA for a while, and came from a prestigious, upper-class family with long ties to the ruling Philippine government. The suitor came from a crazy rich family but had no standing in the country. So the dowry was an attempt to ingratiate his family into high society.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 11, 2022 01:23 PM (iFTx/)Happened a lot in Rome. Officially the Dowry was always money for the bride to live on after her husband's death, but if you were outside the inner circles status wise a marriage with an upper class family who was relatively poor could work wonders.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 11, 2022 01:43 PM (eoQWY)
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And in the UK. I think Churchill twice married rich families' daughters who had little status and thus saw a marriage to him as an entrance into high society. When the "new rich" in new industries started making tons of money, they wanted to get in with the landed nobility, who at that time were hurting as economic trends shifted away from land-based wealth.

Posted by: Elric Blade at March 11, 2022 01:49 PM (iFTx/)

569 >> Was that big, sloppy broad that swims in Fruit Loops busy?

Good question.
Exit question: When can we get a calendar with 'ettes swimming in a tub of Value-Rite?

Posted by: 40 Miles North at March 11, 2022 01:49 PM (uWF4x)

570 The problem with bio weapon labs was well exposed by what happened in Wuhan; a leak can infect the entire world.

All it takes is for one idiot to get infected by Soviet era, genetically modified smallpox, to wipe out about 1/3rd of Humanity.

Bio weapons are prohibited WMDs of the worst sort; developing them is a crime against humanity, and the proper response to their use is a nuclear strike.

Bio weapons are a very serious threat. People like Fauci who develop them, desperately need proper psychological counseling. Then, when they understand the gravity of what they have done, they need to be lined up against a wall and shot.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at March 11, 2022 02:06 PM (ZEHVO)

571 Closing in on 600 comments, the thread has probably already exposed Jennifer Griffin's bias = she has a family dog in her political misinformation fight against conservatives...her HUSBAND. He's an unleashed foaming-at-the-mouth Trump-hater.

Posted by: Alphamail at March 11, 2022 02:18 PM (dXTw2)

572 Well you have to say this much: when Ace rants about Russian shit he gives you Russian novel length rants.

I have funny feeling that Jennifer from FOX fcuked with Ace's shelves.

Don't fcuk with Ace's Shelves.

Posted by: Voter theater. at March 11, 2022 02:18 PM (FCPbW)

573 Was it wrong that we were taking and collecting Slavic samples?
Are race based bio-weapons wrong?
It was done in Wuhan, why can't we?
*throws things*

Posted by: US Bio weapons labs in Ukraine at March 11, 2022 02:54 PM (zUiNW)

574 "I also don't care that Israel spies on the US."

Of course you don't Ace.

There is never any scenario when Israel can do anything wrong in your eyes, nor any scenario where our Hebrew friends might possibly be acting against our interests.

At least you're starting to admit it to yourself.

Posted by: It's Friday at March 11, 2022 02:56 PM (UYr7c)

575 Sent a link to the site and reference to this piece to my brother.
Essential Ace. About the essential struggles of our time.

Posted by: Zek at March 11, 2022 03:46 PM (lcQJG)

576 I have no doubt there were biolabs, and probably Soviet era labs Ukraine, and maybe even we, took over and didn't dismantle as we should have. I wouldn't be surprised that we continued stuff there we shouldn't have. Heck, WE FUNDED CHINA'S BIOWEAPONS GAIN OF FUNCTION RESEARCH, didn't we, Fauci?

On the other hand, the fact that the Muscovites went STRAIGHT to "coronavirus" at the UN, to me, absolutely screams of CCP direction (trying to establish "evidence" of the CCP's claim that the US actually invented COVID-19 and then released in China. Somehow).

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Posted by: Shirley at March 11, 2022 06:40 PM (TTVqk)

578 "The UK also spies on the US."

I had always heard that given our 'special relationship' we don't really spy on each other as such. Was that ever true? Has it changed?

I did find this piece from a while ago, which suggests the CIA spies on British Muslims thanks to terrorism: https://tinyurl.com/2p8dx6ac

...but that doesn't seem the same as the CIA stealing British state secrets.

Posted by: MaxCon at March 11, 2022 11:15 PM (jtmdt)

579 Many of the labs are Veterinary Medicine labs. None are bioweapons labs.

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