Incompetent Anti-American Secretary of State Tony Blinken Flip-Flops on Poland's Plan to Transfer All of Its MiG-29s to Ukraine

Bear in mind: Poland is a NATO member.

So this is a NATO member transferring warplanes to a country fighting a war with Russia.

On Sunday, Blinken gave the "green light" for Poland, a NATO member, to transfer 28 Russian built but NATO-owned warplanes to Ukraine to fight Russia.

But Poland insisted that the US and other NATO countries had to be involved in the transfer.

Specifically, they wanted to fly the planes to the US base at Ramstein, Germany. There, Ukrainian pilots would collect them and fly them to the Ukraine.

And now, after having signaled his support of a transfer, Blinken reverses himself and says "No."

Any supply of fighter jets to Ukraine must be done jointly by NATO countries, the Polish prime minister said on Wednesday, after Washington rejected Poland's offer to fly all its MIG-29 jets to a U.S. airbase with a view to them being given to Kyiv.
Asked about the offer of Polish MIGs, the Kremlin described it as a potentially dangerous and undesirable scenario. read more
Ukraine has pleaded with Western nations to provide it with fighter jets to counter a Russian invasion that has forced more than two million refugees to flee the country, and U.S. lawmakers have responded by pushing President Joe Biden's administration to facilitate the transfer of aircraft.
On Tuesday, Poland said it was ready to deploy all its MIG-29 jets to Ramstein Air Base in Germany and put them at the disposal of the United States, urging other NATO members to do the same. The Pentagon later dismissed the offer as not "tenable".

Now, why did Poland want to do it this way?

Here's my speculation: Poland wanted the US involved because they feared a Russia attack if they supplied Ukraine with the jets. And they also feared the US would fail to come to their defense as Article 5 of the NATO charter demands we must.

You know, because America is Back, Baby! Because Biden has totally regained the trust of the world.

So they wanted the US directly involved in this operation so that the US would have ownership of it and could not walk away from it if Russia attacked Poland. So that the US could not claim, "Poland in effect attacked Russia by transferring those planes without NATO's blessing, so in effect Poland was the first attacker, Russia was counter-attacking, not attacking, and therefore Article 5 does not apply and we do not owe collective self-defense action to Poland."

And I think that's exactly the reason Blinken refused to be part of Poland's transfer scheme -- because he wanted the ability to walk away from the scheme and claim that Poland's transfer severed the US's obligation to come to their aid.

Blinken wanted Poland to act "unilaterally," so that the US would not have to back Poland's play if things went sideways.

And what are the odds that things would go sideways under Brandon...?

So Poland is not going forward with the transfer. They know that Biden and Blinken are untrustworthy c*cksuckers.

I don't think that we should risk WWIII by getting directly involved with transferring warplanes to Ukraine while they're fighting Russia.

But put that aside for the moment. If my analysis is right, and it sure seems right, it would mean that Biden and Blinken were once again encouraging a Eastern European ally to get into a war with Russia while also making sure we had no obligation to back them in that war. Once again getting a country "a little bit pregnant with war" and then walking away.

They've been doing that forever.

They did that with Ukraine originally in 2014. They cheered on the Maidan Revolution, encouraged Ukraine to take a defiant no-compromises position with Russia, suggesting we had their back in the fight that would follow, and then we... disappeared.

Left them to twist in the red wind.

It's the Obama/Biden tradition.

Why do we keep doing this? Why do we keep baiting our allies to get into fights they can't win, falsely promising we will support them in wars we have no intention of supporting them in?

America's Back, Baby! The Adults Are in Charge Again!

But don't worry-- Biden's sent his Number One Fixer and Miracle Worker over there to smooth this all out.

I have a feeling that Someone Has Failed to Position Kamala for Success Again, guys.

Update: From andycanuck:

Breaking911
@Breaking911
1h
Pentagon Press Sec. John Kirby:
"We do not support the transfer of additional fighter aircraft to the Ukrainian air force at this time, and therefore have no desire to see them in our custody either."

It's that last part that's the real crux of it: We don't want them in our custody. We don't want to be tied to this.

But Poland can go out on a limb and do it "unilaterally!"

Posted by: Ace at 05:12 PM

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1 Poland gets it!

Posted by: Mishdog at March 09, 2022 05:14 PM (3gjFX)

2 I hope they schlock Kamal pretty good.

Posted by: Mishdog at March 09, 2022 05:14 PM (3gjFX)

3 I mean schlong dammit.

Posted by: Mishdog at March 09, 2022 05:14 PM (3gjFX)

4 Poland gets to put up with Kamala.

Posted by: fluffy at March 09, 2022 05:14 PM (UnQlg)

5 The Biden regime probably backed out due to pressure by Putin with respect to the Iran deal.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 09, 2022 05:14 PM (XkuN6)

6 Well, it looks like she knows how to use an umbrella, so she's got that on President Pants Crease.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at March 09, 2022 05:15 PM (8548M)

7 Is Kamala a spitter or a swallower.

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 09, 2022 05:15 PM (W2Pud)

8 Where is everyone?

Posted by: Mishdog at March 09, 2022 05:15 PM (3gjFX)

9 What we really need is for Biden and Kamala to personally fly the planes into contested airspace

Posted by: cool breeze at March 09, 2022 05:15 PM (UGKMd)

10 Blinken makes Johm Fn Kerry look like Thomas Jefferson.

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at March 09, 2022 05:16 PM (SVUeu)

11 i think this is a pretty solid take

I give myself an A.

Posted by: ace at March 09, 2022 05:16 PM (0G13K)

12 hiya

Posted by: JT at March 09, 2022 05:16 PM (arJlL)

13 Yep, that's exactly why Poland did it the way they did. Basically, "Fuck you, Blicken, Blanken or however you say your faggot name."

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at March 09, 2022 05:16 PM (QYPq3)

14 If there *is* a "good guy" in this clusterfuck, it's Poland. It sure as shit ain't the US.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik [DHS Verdict: MDM] at March 09, 2022 05:17 PM (DTX3h)

15 My guess is Poland didn't want to do any of that and this was a way to call Junta Joe's bluff. They would be fine with Poland getting hit as a causus belli. But, this way, the US is on the hook.

BTW, how are those bio-warfare labs doing now that Victoria Nuland admitted they are there?

Posted by: WiNO at March 09, 2022 05:17 PM (EpDzw)

16 Whatever happened to Putins ex wife?

Posted by: Mishdog at March 09, 2022 05:17 PM (3gjFX)

17 Who better to Service the Poles?

Posted by: garrett at March 09, 2022 05:17 PM (lhr6a)

18 Even worse!

zerohedge @zerohedge; 1h
Nigerian Oil Minister Sees Crude Hovering Near $150 by Year-End

Luckily me sending him $3,000 USD means it'll only hit $149.37 by year-end.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at March 09, 2022 05:17 PM (UHVv4)

19 honestly, you'd have to be exceptionally stupid to trust america in anything after the past 30 years... both Gope and Democrat.

PDJT excepted.

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at March 09, 2022 05:18 PM (8D42x)

20 i think this is a pretty solid take

I give myself an A.
Posted by: ace at March 09, 2022 05:16 PM (0G13K)

Yup. You nailed it... eh, her... uh, it.

Posted by: MkY at March 09, 2022 05:18 PM (cPGH3)

21 With all of these biplane that Victoria Nuland admitted to Sen Rubio, maybe Poland just wanted to trade their jets for some Ivermectin.

Posted by: John galt at March 09, 2022 05:19 PM (kB+Uw)

22 I also think Poland wants to upgrade their fleet of fighters and what better way to get shiny new US Built Fighters than to launder your old MiGs through Ukraine?

Posted by: garrett at March 09, 2022 05:19 PM (lhr6a)

23 I don't think even Jimmy Carter ran a clown show this bad. The world is quickly dividing into those who hate us and those who laugh at us.

Posted by: Ordinary American at March 09, 2022 05:19 PM (H8QX8)

24 Poor Zelensky. He fucked up. He trusted us.

Posted by: Joey Biden at March 09, 2022 05:19 PM (QYPq3)

25 >>Yup. You nailed it...

He had to give up on the drill.

Posted by: garrett at March 09, 2022 05:19 PM (lhr6a)

26 With these clowns in charge I sure hope we're all still alive for the midterms. Because I'm really starting to worry about that.

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at March 09, 2022 05:20 PM (SVUeu)

27 >> Here's my speculation: Poland wanted the US involved because they feared a Russia attack if they supplied Ukraine with the jets. And they also feared the US would fail to come to their defense as Article 5 of the NATO charter demands we must.

One point I want to add is that it is widely assumed that one of Putin's goals is to weaken NATO. That can best be done by dividing them and creating a scenario where one country gets involved in the war, and the US refuses to invoke article 5.

So I don't fault Poland since they are basically asking for a guarantee up front to prevent that. And I don't blame the US, since it is better to back out before doing so would destroy NATO.
Now, I am all for giving Ukraine defensive weapons. I think that can be done with justification. Migs are another matter. So it is pretty complicated and we don't have all the information, but they sure are making a hash out of the public back and forth bullshit.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 09, 2022 05:20 PM (sNQ/T)

28 i think this is a pretty solid take

I give myself an A.
Posted by: ace at March 09, 2022 05:16 PM (0G13K)

looks like it from a casual observer point of view. and i think you're correct. especially after blinken said the us had no clue about Poland's offer to fly the jets to germany. they made the call in their best interests that doesn't hang their ass out to dry with just a "minor incursion"...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at March 09, 2022 05:20 PM (8D42x)

29 Disclose.tv @disclosetv; 58m
NOW - Pelosi: "With this president, this Joe Biden, this president with justice, environmental justice, economic justice, so much has been accomplished."

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/
1501669293943099400

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at March 09, 2022 05:20 PM (UHVv4)

30 The US tried to bigfoot Poland on this. Blinken went on the Sunday shows and said Poland was going to send fighter jets to Ukraine.

Poland immediately countered with, umm, no we aren't.

Apparently, then, behind the scenes, there was some diplomatic work between the countries, and the US must have said well you are going to do this, or else. Or else what, I don't know.

But Poland then came out and said tell you what, we will give our jets to the US, and you can do with them what you want.

Suddenly, the US is not so hot on the idea. Wow, this could cause an escalation! Really? What was your first clue, genius?

Poland saved us from ourselves.

Posted by: blaster at March 09, 2022 05:21 PM (9otr5)

31 SEND IN THE CLOWNS

https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=8L6KGuTr9TI

Posted by: JUDY COLLINS at March 09, 2022 05:21 PM (lhr6a)

32 Glad we are sending the brain trust to Poland to smooth shit out.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 09, 2022 05:21 PM (o2MD2)

33 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 09, 2022 05:21 PM (IXZGh)

34 >>>He had to give up on the drill.

i long ago mastered the forward and backward toggle on the drill.

Posted by: ace at March 09, 2022 05:21 PM (0G13K)

35 "And I think that's exactly the reason Blinken refused to be part of Poland's transfer scheme -- because he wanted the ability to walk away from the scheme and claim that Poland's transfer severed the US's obligation to come to their aid."

Exactly right, Ace.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 09, 2022 05:21 PM (OssQ4)

36 Fox news, still all in on Ukraine propaganda... even after a lot of things have proven to be lies, they take EVERYTHING as true.

War Drum beating is worse than the crap that happened with the Covington Kid.

Posted by: Romeo13,, at March 09, 2022 05:22 PM (oHd/0)

37 Poor Zelensky. He fucked up. He trusted us.
Posted by: Joey Biden at March 09, 2022 05:19 PM (QYPq3)

Pfft, he's made millions. He'll fly away when the time is right. Meanwhile the average Ukrainian suffers.

Posted by: WiNO at March 09, 2022 05:22 PM (EpDzw)

38 I'm also sure the Krauts really want a pissed off Russia on their doorstep too.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 09, 2022 05:22 PM (o2MD2)

39 Is Kumala going to describe to the Poles, like she's talking to 3rd-graders, what airplanes are? They fly wayyy up high in the sky. Like the birdies do. Nobody knows how exactly. It's like magic!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 09, 2022 05:22 PM (HsAzN)

40 It's the Obama/Biden tradition.

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"What the hell am I, chopped Peyronie? I got those idiots to give up their nukes knowing full well we'd abandon them in their times of need ... with 50% for The 90's Big Guy to boot!" -- Bubba Clinton

Posted by: ShainS -- Honk Semper Tyrannis! at March 09, 2022 05:22 PM (XbTPm)

41 "So how many of you *does* it take to screw in a light bulb, anyway?"

Posted by: Veep Throat at March 09, 2022 05:23 PM (6FeV1)

42 Harris is planning to do some serious shopping when she's in Poland. The handbags and accessory prices are to-die-for and way less than here in the states because of Bidenflation.

Posted by: Roy at March 09, 2022 05:23 PM (Ti+Tv)

43 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 09, 2022 05:14 PM (SKVme)

What may have not been clear is that wasn't directed at you as much as it was directed at your predicament. Others have so many answers for how other people should conduct their lives. It wasn't you.

Cancel it or don't. We have Disney+, for now - and I make it known that I have exceptions to the kids watching various lefftist woke garbage - but the wife will decide when she's done with it. No need for me to do anything other than relay my preference. She is hardcore as me - perhaps more so - and she is increasingly aware of the state of things.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 09, 2022 05:18 PM (SH2Zi)

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 09, 2022 05:23 PM (SH2Zi)

44 Poland saved us from ourselves.
Posted by: blaster

Also on point.

Posted by: MkY at March 09, 2022 05:23 PM (cPGH3)

45 The US is a shambling wreck of a nation.

It's literally embarrassing what we have become.

Disgusting.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 09, 2022 05:23 PM (3iij0)

46 Kumswalla heads to Poland to orally apologize for the misunderstanding on what 'approval' means.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 09, 2022 05:23 PM (IXZGh)

47 Kamala Harris and millions of Poles? What job is she interviewing for, Emperor of Earth?

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at March 09, 2022 05:23 PM (cupoy)

48 Considering Poland is already "problematic" because of their ongoing policy on refugees, retaining their country's culture, religion (Christianity) and values, I would not be surprised if Brandon wanted to jerk them around, either by abandoning them, or promising aid on condition that they accept as many ME/Africa refugees as the EU wants them to and the implement the full LGBTQ/abortion agenda.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 09, 2022 05:23 PM (MmndN)

49 Aren't you guys relieved that the adults are back in charge?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 09, 2022 05:24 PM (o2MD2)

50 Ukraine is a country, ok? It is being attacked by Russia, a bigger country, ok? Fighter planes defend countries, ok? Ukraine needs fighter planes, ok? Poland has fighter planes, ok? You can see why poland needs to give ukraine its fighter planes. That is where we are at.

-Negotiator Kamala.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 09, 2022 05:24 PM (qnVBz)

51 How many Kumalas does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

"Screw in a lightbulb? Tee-hee. I've screwed everywhere else, but that seems like a tight fit. I guess if I position myself for suck-cess, I can do it!"

Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 09, 2022 05:24 PM (HsAzN)

52 The only Poles I care about are my poll numbers.

Posted by: Slow Joe Biden at March 09, 2022 05:24 PM (FJYfm)

53 Suddenly, the US is not so hot on the idea. Wow, this could cause an escalation! Really? What was your first clue, genius?

Poland saved us from ourselves.
Posted by: blaster at March 09, 2022 05:21 PM (9otr5)

I remember back in the 60's hearing Polish Jokes... the premise being the Polish were really stupid.

Now it seems they are smarter than our government.

Now sure what to think about that...

Posted by: Romeo13,, at March 09, 2022 05:24 PM (oHd/0)

54 How many poles can Harris gob on the knob in one trip?

Posted by: Roy at March 09, 2022 05:24 PM (Ti+Tv)

55 I positioned Kamala for suckcess.

Posted by: Willie's Brown Willy at March 09, 2022 05:25 PM (WmGrA)

56 >>>I remember back in the 60's hearing Polish Jokes... the premise being the Polish were really stupid.

poles were vital in cracking the enigma code.

Posted by: ace at March 09, 2022 05:25 PM (0G13K)

57 Poland has been betrayed enough to know better.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 09, 2022 05:25 PM (yQpMk)

58 Good on Poland. Fuck these guys and their warhawking at others' expense.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 09, 2022 05:25 PM (SH2Zi)

59 "What the hell am I, chopped Peyronie? I got those idiots to give up their nukes knowing full well we'd abandon them in their times of need ... with 50% for The 90's Big Guy to boot!" -- Bubba Clinton
Posted by: ShainS -- Honk Semper Tyrannis! at March 09, 2022 05:22 PM (XbTPm)

The nukes were useless. The Russians had the launch codes and weren't about to turn them over. Add in that Ukraine is dirt poor and unlikely to be able to maintain them.

Posted by: WiNO at March 09, 2022 05:25 PM (EpDzw)

60 I give you an A-.

I was with you up until you said they cheered on the Maidan Revolution. They didn't just cheer it on they ran the coup. And Putin knows it.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 09, 2022 05:25 PM (ZLI7S)

61 I remember back in the 60's hearing Polish Jokes... the premise being the Polish were really stupid.

Now it seems they are smarter than our government.

Now sure what to think about that...
Posted by: Romeo13,, at March 09, 2022 05:24 PM (oHd/0)

It's not like we had to raise our game.

Posted by: Poland at March 09, 2022 05:26 PM (FJYfm)

62 These imbeciles are gonna fuck around and get WW3 started. They are like baboons with automatic weapons.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 09, 2022 05:26 PM (o2MD2)

63 Hi Guys! I just flew in from DC...and are my arms tired!!! CACKLECACKLECACKLECACKLE...

Posted by: VPOTUS Kamala Harris at March 09, 2022 05:26 PM (SVUeu)

64 Simple, Poland's leadership (Duda, et.al) called both of the two stooges bluf (Brandon and Blinky), and it worked. Next question: Why does NATO still exist? It's a paper tiger at best.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at March 09, 2022 05:26 PM (fWCwR)

65 >>Poland saved us from ourselves.

Indeed

Posted by: Lizzy at March 09, 2022 05:26 PM (MmndN)

66 Kamala is Biden's number two.

IOW: the douche's deuce.

Posted by: Joe Mama at March 09, 2022 05:26 PM (WmGrA)

67 This Thread needs more Polish Butter Churning Lasses.

Posted by: garrett at March 09, 2022 05:26 PM (lhr6a)

68 >>>Now sure what to think about that...

Posted by: Romeo13,, at March 09, 2022 05:24 PM (oHd/0)

I mean, we are pretty much talking Chicago style politics, here.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at March 09, 2022 05:26 PM (QYPq3)

69 51 How many Kumalas does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

"Screw in a lightbulb? Tee-hee. I've screwed everywhere else, but that seems like a tight fit. I guess if I position myself for suck-cess, I can do it!"
Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 09, 2022 05:24 PM (HsAzN)

Once took a tour of a really old Lighthouse. Lady Friends at the time asked me why I was smiling as I looked at the lighting system...

Told her too bad we can't get in after hours, so we could 'screw in the lightbulb'...

I got elbowed.

Posted by: Romeo13,, at March 09, 2022 05:26 PM (oHd/0)

70 USA democrats: fund our enemies, fuck our allies.

Posted by: (jV+aN) President Orange Man Bad (Rheees Be Upon Him) at March 09, 2022 05:26 PM (jV+aN)

71
poles were vital in cracking the enigma code.
Posted by: ace at March 09, 2022 05:25 PM (0G13K)

They were part of the communist block. They were kept dumb. Now, today there are several really smart Pols, but the number of functionally illiterate is still a large number.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 09, 2022 05:27 PM (IXZGh)

72 I don't think ace's take is that far off.

Blinken and company wanted the credit for saving Ukraine from evil Putin. They wanted Poland's ass on the line for it.

Poland's response was if you want to do this, you do it. We'll even give you, I don't know, a couple of billion dollars worth of airplanes to do it.

And they exposed Blinken's farce.

Posted by: blaster at March 09, 2022 05:27 PM (9otr5)

73 NOW - Pelosi: "With this president, this Joe Biden, this president with justice, environmental justice, economic justice, so much has been accomplished."

You keep on using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Posted by: Tonypete at March 09, 2022 05:27 PM (Msys3)

74 Why do we keep doing this? Why do we keep baiting our allies to get into fights they can't win, falsely promising we will support them in wars we have no intention of supporting them in?
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Because, as I have speculated, we are playing both sides of the war, each to some different Uniparty advantage.

Posted by: ... at March 09, 2022 05:27 PM (dscaa)

75 @JonahDispatch 8h
The Polish foreign minister should accidentally mention on a zoom call with Ukraine that the keys to the jets are kept under the front seat and anyone could just walk on to the base and take them. wink

Posted by: jeannebodine at March 09, 2022 05:27 PM (quVxB)

76 I'm really starting to think they don't like Kamala all that much.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at March 09, 2022 05:27 PM (nxdel)

77 Somebody told Kamala that some Poles needed attention.

And like that . . .

*chef's kiss*

. . . she was gone.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 09, 2022 05:27 PM (SH2Zi)

78 What is a NATO country doing with Russian built planes anyway?

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at March 09, 2022 05:27 PM (Q3fP7)

79 But don't worry-- Biden's sent his Number One Fixer and Miracle Worker over there to smooth this all out.

-------

How many Pollocks does it take to screw a dim bulb?

Posted by: ShainS -- Honk Semper Tyrannis! at March 09, 2022 05:27 PM (XbTPm)

80 i think this is a pretty solid take

I give myself an A.

Agreed. And an A+ to Poland for not falling for the trap.

Posted by: Oddbob at March 09, 2022 05:27 PM (nfrXX)

81 The only truly ignorant things the Poles ever did was position their country right smack dab where they did.
Bad geography.

Posted by: MkY at March 09, 2022 05:27 PM (cPGH3)

82 22 I also think Poland wants to upgrade their fleet of fighters and what better way to get shiny new US Built Fighters than to launder your old MiGs through Ukraine?
Posted by: garrett at March 09, 2022 05:19 PM (lhr6a)

It's why I mentioned early this morning that this was a win/win for Poland. They call everyone's bluff and/or get everyone in war (which helps them either way) AND they get better fighters if it wasn't a bluff...

That said, it's still pretty sh&tty in Poland as we speak. As my guest says, it's fine-ish b/c it's getting worse on the linear plan, not the exponential one.

Posted by: Nova local at March 09, 2022 05:27 PM (exHjb)

83 The word "amid" has become one of them words I fucking hate.

Just an aside amid an active thread.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Guinness spokesman at March 09, 2022 05:27 PM (x8Wzq)

84 "With this president, this Joe Biden, this president with justice, environmental justice, economic justice, so much has been accomplished."
--------------

Just Say Shit.

Posted by: ... at March 09, 2022 05:28 PM (dscaa)

85 Fox news, still all in on Ukraine propaganda... even after a lot of things have proven to be lies, they take EVERYTHING as true.

War Drum beating is worse than the crap that happened with the Covington Kid.
Posted by: Romeo13

Yes they are. In lockstep with all the other networks and corporations. Just like with Covid and the vax. It's horrifying to witness.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 09, 2022 05:28 PM (OssQ4)

86 >Fox news, still all in on Ukraine propaganda... even after a lot of things have proven to be lies, they take EVERYTHING as true.

Posted by: Romeo13,, at March 09, 2022 05:22 PM (oHd/0)

They, and Newsmax, also accepted the filthy lucre of the Biden regime in order to push the clot shots, and didn't disclose that to their viewers. They're barely-disguised controlled opposition. I can't believe people still watch them.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at March 09, 2022 05:28 PM (L9uv7)

87 JonahDispatch 8h
The Polish foreign minister should accidentally mention on a zoom call with Ukraine that the keys to the jets are kept under the front seat and anyone could just walk on to the base and take them. wink
Posted by: jeannebodine at March 09, 2022 05:27 PM (quVxB)

Not funny or clever or smart. Embarrassing ? yes.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at March 09, 2022 05:29 PM (Q3fP7)

88 @275

>>@JonahDispatch 8h

Jonah is a profoundly silly and ridiculous person.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 09, 2022 05:29 PM (3iij0)

89 Why does NATO still exist? It's a paper tiger at best.
Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at March 09, 2022 05:26 PM (fWCwR)

It should have been disbanded by the mid-90's. Our geriatric leadership is stuck in the 60's.

Posted by: WiNO at March 09, 2022 05:29 PM (EpDzw)

90 Speaking of disastrous foreign policy blunders by team Biden, did y'all see Biden's people tried to get Saudi Arabia to back out of the Accords everyone thought were practically miraculous? All so they could take away Trump's win.

Saudi Arabia told them to go screw and now is ignoring their calls.

Posted by: bonhomme at March 09, 2022 05:29 PM (NahKu)

91 Perhaps someone smart in the State Dept. told him "That would be considered by Russia to be an Act of War?

Posted by: Chatterbox Mouse at March 09, 2022 05:29 PM (lKAqb)

92 11 i think this is a pretty solid take

I give myself an A.
Posted by: ace at March 09, 2022 05:16 PM (0G13K)

Don't be so humble. A+

Posted by: nerdygirl at March 09, 2022 05:29 PM (+lVUW)

93 The US should talk less and Lead more and STFU

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 09, 2022 05:30 PM (Irn0L)

94 i think this is a pretty solid take

I give myself an A.

Posted by: ace at March 09, 2022 05:16 PM (0G13K)

Use the capital A, today, like a boss.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 09, 2022 05:30 PM (SH2Zi)

95 I have a feeling that Someone Has Failed to Position Kamala for Success Again, guys.

Some M/m oron could cause the ethnic joke singularity with this input.

Posted by: DaveA at March 09, 2022 05:30 PM (FhXTo)

96 SF lifting jab requirement for most indoor places (like the bar and theater i went to last night). Now i can go to the gym again. Good thing i didn't cancel my $99/year membership.

Posted by: SFGoth at March 09, 2022 05:30 PM (fAHXr)

97 I'm thinking Blinken got handed a note from a third party backchannel from Moscow and shit his pants when he read it.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 09, 2022 05:30 PM (axyOa)

98 >>@JonahDispatch 8h
The Polish foreign minister should accidentally mention on a zoom call with Ukraine that the keys to the jets are kept under the front seat and anyone could just walk on to the base and take them. wink

OMG, this is on par with Hannity's brilliant idea of sending assassins to get Putin and then denying it.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 09, 2022 05:30 PM (MmndN)

99 "Why do we keep doing this? Why do we keep baiting our allies to get into fights they can't win, falsely promising we will support them in wars we have no intention of supporting them in?"

That's been the logic of NATO all along: America will risk nuclear war to protect Europe from Russia.

The Europe that allowed itself to be overrun by Muslim immigrants. The Europe with all the woke leaders. The Europe that despises America.

America probably ought to get out of NATO. No matter who's president. Let's get out.

Posted by: Check Out gp's Rehoboth Beach Tan! at March 09, 2022 05:30 PM (qpX6U)

100 The US should talk less and Lead more and STFU

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 09, 2022 05:30 PM (Irn0L)

With this regime, I don't want them leading a damn thing, TBH.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 09, 2022 05:30 PM (IXZGh)

101 Breaking911 @Breaking911; 1h
Pentagon Press Sec. John Kirby:
"We do not support the transfer of additional fighter aircraft to the Ukrainian air force at this time, and therefore have no desire to see them in our custody either."

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at March 09, 2022 05:30 PM (UHVv4)

102 From the sequence:

We claimed Poland would supply Mig-29s.

Poland says "No! We send them to US base, US can send!"

US says "Uh, no . . . "

Maybe what we said first was what was going down, team Biden released it for good media, Poland didn't like that we let the Russians know.

Remember when Team Obama outed the Pakistani Dr who helped us verify where bin Laden was?

Posted by: Don at March 09, 2022 05:30 PM (Lnlml)

103 And fuck what russia thinks...let russia worry about what the USA thinks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 09, 2022 05:30 PM (Irn0L)

104 The Biden crowd likes to think they're slick operators in their aviator shades, but they're really failed Willy Loman's. A certain low cunning is all they got and at this level it is woefully inadequate.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Naughty or Nice? Slay Ride 2 - Santa's Back!- at March 09, 2022 05:30 PM (3yqPP)

105 Blinkin is just a Deep State bureaucrat

Posted by: Skip's Phone at March 09, 2022 05:30 PM (pB27A)

106 GloboHomo wants the war to continue.

They don't care if a bunch of Ukes or Poles or hell Americans die.

Putin isn't part of GloboHomo so destroying/weakening him is what they want.

The terms Putin offered the Ukes seems reasonable. Its time for peace.

And if the FNM/US Government don't want more Russian wars...they can start pumping our own damn oil.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 09, 2022 05:31 PM (ESjRY)

107 >>Perhaps someone smart in the State Dept. told him "That would be considered by Russia to be an Act of War?

More likely Putin told them. He hasn't barked when we gave them javelins or stingers but he balked when we started talking jets.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 09, 2022 05:31 PM (ZLI7S)

108 Speaking of disastrous foreign policy blunders by team Biden, did y'all see Biden's people tried to get Saudi Arabia to back out of the Accords everyone thought were practically miraculous? All so they could take away Trump's win.

Saudi Arabia told them to go screw and now is ignoring their calls.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 09, 2022 05:29 PM (NahKu)

I'm stunned by the inability of the State Department and other Lefties to see that nations act in their own best interests, even if that doesn't make Joe look good.

Posted by: Wally at March 09, 2022 05:31 PM (FJYfm)

109 JonahDispatch 8h
The Polish foreign minister should accidentally mention on a zoom call with Ukraine that the keys to the jets are kept under the front seat and anyone could just walk on to the base and take them. wink
Posted by: jeannebodine at March 09, 2022 05:27 PM (quVxB)

Not funny or clever or smart. Embarrassing ? yes.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at March 09, 2022 05:29 PM (Q3fP7)

One blogger back in the aught's called the NR gang Animal House conservatives. They were unserious people unfit for the job. Jonah typifies that.

Posted by: WiNO at March 09, 2022 05:31 PM (EpDzw)

110 If Biden and his team were considered trustworthy and not completely incompetent by our allies, the transfer would have probably gone through already ... or alternatively they wouldn't be negotiating on this back and forth in public via twitter and press releases. But "The adults are back in charge and Biden is handling this masterfully."

Posted by: Match Checksout at March 09, 2022 05:31 PM (dYe5S)

111 Poland gets to put up with Kamala.

Posted by: fluffy at March 09, 2022 05:14 PM (UnQlg)

Maybe we could offer Poland a few F-35s in exchange for them keeping her... permanently.

Oh btw, she's also going to Romania on her little trip.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 09, 2022 05:31 PM (F0YaR)

112 Saudi Arabia told them to go screw and now is ignoring their calls.
Posted by: bonhomme at March 09, 2022 05:29 PM (NahKu)

Actual locomotive disasters are less of a fiasco than the foreign policy of this cabal of pederasts and dimwits.

Posted by: Veep Throat at March 09, 2022 05:31 PM (6FeV1)

113 Whoresock, off.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 09, 2022 05:31 PM (6FeV1)

114 poles were vital in cracking the enigma code.
Posted by: ace

Saving Europe, again. Sobieski also saved Europe from Islam.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 09, 2022 05:32 PM (OssQ4)

115 >>did y'all see Biden's people tried to get Saudi Arabia to back out of the Accords everyone thought were practically miraculous? All so they could take away Trump's win.

AYFKM?
These people are evil

Posted by: Lizzy at March 09, 2022 05:32 PM (MmndN)

116 >> Speaking of disastrous foreign policy blunders by team Biden, did y'all see Biden's people tried to get Saudi Arabia to back out of the Accords everyone thought were practically miraculous?

Their entire plan has been to roll back any gains the US made under Trump's Leadership.

Also. To punish all of us.

Posted by: garrett at March 09, 2022 05:32 PM (lhr6a)

117
I've posted bad gag-takes here myself, but Jonah seems to not even be trying anymore.

Must be the easy money.

Posted by: Auspex at March 09, 2022 05:32 PM (bQvYf)

118 Oh btw, she's also going to Romania on her little trip.
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 09, 2022 05:31 PM (F0YaR)

$10 says she uses the word "gyp" in a horrendously awkward moment.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 09, 2022 05:32 PM (6FeV1)

119 Idiot thought they would never take him up on his plan but they did and he panicked and threw them under the bus toot suite.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at March 09, 2022 05:32 PM (bVYXr)

120 >@JonahDispatch 8h
The Polish foreign minister should accidentally mention on a zoom call with Ukraine that the keys to the jets are kept under the front seat and anyone could just walk on to the base and take them. wink
Posted by: jeannebodine at March 09, 2022 05:27 PM (quVxB)

Behold! The Serious Though Leaders of Never Trump!

Stick to gay flirting on Twatter about whether hot dogs are a sammich or whatever, dude.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at March 09, 2022 05:33 PM (L9uv7)

121 Maybe what we said first was what was going down, team Biden released it for good media, Poland didn't like that we let the Russians know.

Don is right. this is what happened.

We ARE that stupid.

It's just stupidity. Some malice, sure, but just mostly dumbness.

Posted by: Black Orchid at March 09, 2022 05:33 PM (j9HX3)

122 I have a feeling that Someone Has Failed to Position Kamala for Success Again, guys.

Interviewer - And what position are you applying for Ms. Harris?

Veep Throat - *garble, mumble, gurgle*

Interviewer - Yes, I see. All previous employees have reported that position really sucks.

Veep Throat - "EXACTLY!!!"

Posted by: Tonypete at March 09, 2022 05:33 PM (Msys3)

123 Maybe what we said first was what was going down, team Biden released it for good media, Poland didn't like that we let the Russians know.

Remember when Team Obama outed the Pakistani Dr who helped us verify where bin Laden was?

Posted by: Don at March 09, 2022 05:30 PM (Lnlml)

Poland was very pro-Trump, thus, an enemy of the leftist state. If Brandon and Co. could get Poland to transfer planes to Ukraine, and if Russia retaliated against Poland, it would be a twofer for Brandon's handlers.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 09, 2022 05:33 PM (SH2Zi)

124 76 I'm really starting to think they don't like Kamala all that much.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at March 09, 2022 05:27 PM (nxdel)

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By not utilizing the positions she is most experienced with IYKWIMAITYD, they do appear to be positioning her for failure.

This has Internecine War Between the Clinton, Biden, and Obama Crime Families written all over it ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Honk Semper Tyrannis! at March 09, 2022 05:33 PM (XbTPm)

125 Kamala is definitely on the outs. She has to hold her own umbrella.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 09, 2022 05:33 PM (axyOa)

126 11 i think this is a pretty solid take

I give myself an A.

Posted by: ace at March 09, 2022 05:16 PM (0G13K)

++++

I have to agree. You explained a very complex situation in very simple terms. My muddle-headed brain even understood it. This, in itself, is an extraordinary talent and many a writer's failure - cutting to the chase, as it were.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 09, 2022 05:33 PM (0W3z4)

127 What we're seeing here from the media is pathological recidivism. They cannot stop these episodes of manic hysteria that invariably come to a pile of discrediting failure. Completely uneducable, zero self-reflection.

Posted by: Ordinary American at March 09, 2022 05:34 PM (H8QX8)

128 >> JonahDispatch 8h

If BOTH of my wife's boyfriends are here, is she a Sanwich?

Posted by: garrett at March 09, 2022 05:34 PM (lhr6a)

129 >>Perhaps someone smart in the State Dept. told him "That would be considered by Russia to be an Act of War?

More likely Putin told them. He hasn't barked when we gave them javelins or stingers but he balked when we started talking jets.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 09, 2022 05:31 PM (ZLI7S)

Defensive vs offensive weapons.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 09, 2022 05:34 PM (F0YaR)

130 The US should talk less and Lead more and STFU

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 09, 2022 05:30 PM (Irn0L)

Why? You do realize we aren't the good guys here? Not saying anyone fits being the good guys in this. But, we aren't the good guys. People are dying because the Establishment is filled with hubristic children.

Posted by: WiNO at March 09, 2022 05:34 PM (EpDzw)

131 "Oh btw, she's also going to Romania on her little trip."

She can huff some Aurolac. That's the top huffing substance in Romania. Kinda like gold paint, with more kick.

Posted by: Check Out gp's Rehoboth Beach Tan! at March 09, 2022 05:35 PM (qpX6U)

132 Kamala is definitely on the outs. She has to hold her own umbrella.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 09, 2022 05:33 PM (axyOa)

Racism

Posted by: Joe Bitem at March 09, 2022 05:35 PM (M+Lyo)

133 poles were vital in cracking the enigma code.
Posted by: ace

Indeed they were. The Poles had broken the German codes, and knew the attack was about to begin. They told Great Britain. Great Britain was like, naw, not gonna happen. Peace in our time and all that.

But they also sent a team to go in and save the Polish mathematicians and bring them to the UK, before the Germans invaded.

So, the UK knew. They let the Poles get sacked. I suspect this is something taught in Polish history class.

Posted by: blaster at March 09, 2022 05:35 PM (9otr5)

134 Anthopomorphizing a bit: Poland is like some soft spoken, honorable competent-man living in a hellhole ghetto, that all the loud flamboyant scumbags around him keep treating as "a little bit slow", because not being a flaming dick simply doesn't translate.

Posted by: nesalpers at March 09, 2022 05:35 PM (hRoyQ)

135 >>Defensive vs offensive weapons.

Yep.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 09, 2022 05:35 PM (ZLI7S)

136 The Biden administration wanted Poland to start WWIII.

Poland smartly figured out a way to turn it back and require the US to fly the planes, at which point the US promptly said "Uh, nevermind."

This plus the bioweapons labs...

Posted by: Moron Rubie - Enjoy your new DNA at March 09, 2022 05:35 PM (cUuEU)

137 I hope Harris packed a shit ton of Chapstick on her plane.

Posted by: Capital Eff at March 09, 2022 05:35 PM (GYllL)

138 >>Perhaps someone smart in the State Dept. told him "That would be considered by Russia to be an Act of War?

More likely Putin told them. He hasn't barked when we gave them javelins or stingers but he balked when we started talking jets.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 09, 2022 05:31 PM (ZLI7S)

That's fair. Stingers and Javelins are largely defensive. Planes, not so much, innately.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 09, 2022 05:35 PM (SH2Zi)

139 Hide the sausages Michal !

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 09, 2022 05:36 PM (M+Lyo)

140 Ace, was it YOU that said that Kamala Harris had as much ability to conduct international diplomacy as Lindsey Lohan would have to conduct preventative maintenance and upgrades for CERN?

Because if you did my estimation of you is sky high, and if you didn't my estimation of you is just as high, since it is exactly the sort of thing you would say

Posted by: Kindltot at March 09, 2022 05:36 PM (xhaym)

141 2014 Russian invade Ukraine:

The media: Putin bad or something? [A few days later] OMG Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 was swallowed by a black hole!

2022 Russian invade Ukraine:

The media: We Americans must be willing to start a nuclear holocaust to protect the sacred borders of Ukraine.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 09, 2022 05:36 PM (ESjRY)

142 Capt Eff and her knee pads

Posted by: Skip at March 09, 2022 05:36 PM (2JoB8)

143 Flounder, my comment about your Disney+ comment got willowed. Basically, for every cute uplifting Disney movie like Encanto, there is a Disney tween show with drag queen story hour, and they've put the tween actress in a bustier and a dress showing her butt. (I don't know the name of that show, but my eyes can never erase that from my mind.) so just lots of good monitoring when your kids are watching of what they are seeing.

Posted by: LizLem at March 09, 2022 05:36 PM (7ZtBF)

144 Why? You do realize we aren't the good guys here? Not saying anyone fits being the good guys in this. But, we aren't the good guys. People are dying because the Establishment is filled with hubristic children.
Posted by: WiNO at March 09, 2022 05:34 PM (EpDzw)

I do not have good guys and bad guys list. And why you would answer my statement with a question like that to what I said mystifies me. I said we should talk less and act like the Leader of the free world. Did not advocate any particular action.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 09, 2022 05:37 PM (Irn0L)

145 And fuck what russia thinks...let russia worry about what the USA thinks

====

Russia thought that USA will envelope Ukrainia into NATO ( for good reason). But who cares, no consequences.

Posted by: runner at March 09, 2022 05:37 PM (SjcEJ)

146 If we have a treaty obligation to defend Poland against The Bear, then Poland doesn't get to poke The Bear without our say so. And a real President should tell them so and to STFD.

Posted by: Zek at March 09, 2022 05:38 PM (OzNIz)

147 Whenever this new Op ends it's clear as day that the US will be greatly diminished, perhaps permanently.

This is what putting The Adults back charge will have wrought.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 09, 2022 05:38 PM (3iij0)

148 think this is a pretty solid take

I give myself an A.
Posted by: ace at March 09, 2022 05:16 PM (0G13K)

THREAD WINNER !

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at March 09, 2022 05:38 PM (Q3fP7)

149 Maybe what we said first was what was going down, team Biden released it for good media, Poland didn't like that we let the Russians know.

I don't think so. I don't think the Poles ever agreed to do it. It isn't like the Russians would see some Mig 29s in the sky and go "wonder where those came from?"

Blinken announced it on all the shows to pressure the Poles into going along. They were not having it.

Posted by: blaster at March 09, 2022 05:38 PM (9otr5)

150 JonahDispatch 8h
The Polish foreign minister should accidentally mention on a zoom call with Ukraine that the keys to the jets are kept under the front seat and anyone could just walk on to the base and take them. wink

Is that supposed to be...humor? Leave it to the Ginormous Blob of Shit to make Trevor Noah sound funny.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 09, 2022 05:38 PM (HsAzN)

151
Speaking of easy money; I know I'm overdue Ace, but I'm good for it.

You do great work and it's sincerely appreciated.

It's just my old lady and, you know... stuff...

Posted by: Auspex at March 09, 2022 05:38 PM (bQvYf)

152 What we're seeing here from the media is pathological recidivism. They cannot stop these episodes of manic hysteria that invariably come to a pile of discrediting failure. Completely uneducable, zero self-reflection.
Posted by: Ordinary American at March 09, 2022 05:34 PM (H8QX

The only explanation is they think people will remember the initial story "Joe Got Poland to Help Against Ukraine!" and not notice that the whole thing was BS from the get-go.

Posted by: Wally at March 09, 2022 05:38 PM (FJYfm)

153 Kamala has one talent. Hope she brought her knee pads.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 09, 2022 05:38 PM (ptqGC)

154 The only truly ignorant things the Poles ever did was position their country right smack dab where they did.
Bad geography.

Posted by: MkY at March 09, 2022 05:27 PM (cPGH3)

They had a Central European empire for a while. It was like the initial rounds of Risk where you decide to center on Kazakhstan "because it is handy to EVERYWHERE, it is a sure winner!"

Posted by: Kindltot at March 09, 2022 05:39 PM (xhaym)

155 Will the US and NATO commit troops to defend Poland?

Kamala: When one country commits to defend another country, its troops are committed to defend. We must take into account that- *vigorous head nodding* gravity situation. Ok?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 09, 2022 05:39 PM (qnVBz)

156 Why? You do realize we aren't the good guys here?
Posted by: WiNO at March 09, 2022 05:34 PM (EpDzw)

And we are always the good guys by comparison and the complete depravity of our enemies

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 09, 2022 05:39 PM (Irn0L)

157 It is simultaneously hilarious and terrifying. These incompetent buffoons may get us vaporized (your analysis is correct, ace, the US and UK have been selling out Poland since '45, which Harris likely never knew and Biden forgot long ago if he ever knew).

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 09, 2022 05:39 PM (rpYJm)

158 I've had more than my fill of US "leadership", thanks.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at March 09, 2022 05:39 PM (L9uv7)

159 >>>109 JonahDispatch 8h
The Polish foreign minister should accidentally mention on a zoom call with Ukraine that the keys to the jets are kept under the front seat and anyone could just walk on to the base and take them. wink
Posted by: jeannebodine at March 09, 2022 05:27 PM (quVxB)

Not funny or clever or smart. Embarrassing ? yes.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter

...

he's just such a waste of time. This is just a comment that is so far beneath the threshold of interest that anyone with a lick of discretion would just not publish it. No one needs to smell your low-level farts, Jonah.

Posted by: ace at March 09, 2022 05:39 PM (0G13K)

160 If Jonah was a real man he'd fly those migs himself!

Posted by: runner at March 09, 2022 05:39 PM (SjcEJ)

161 So the FNM is telling me both of these things

1) The Ukes are winning the war and have devastated the Russian air force

2) The Ukes need fighter jets or Putin will keep bombing children's hospitals.

I guess they aren't exactly in opposition but...

Posted by: 18-1 at March 09, 2022 05:40 PM (ESjRY)

162 "Oh btw, she's also going to Romania on her little trip."

Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves.

One tramp, anyway.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 09, 2022 05:40 PM (HsAzN)

163 "you decide to center on Kazakhstan "because it is handy to EVERYWHERE, it is a sure winner!""

Kazakhstan is so big, it's kind of like 'everywhere,' all by itself. It's fucking huge.

Posted by: Check Out gp's Rehoboth Beach Tan! at March 09, 2022 05:40 PM (qpX6U)

164 In lighter news, the Democrats in Congress have a retreat starting tomorrow in Philadelphia. The evening entertainment presently scheduled for tomorrow evening is a drag queen!

Best part? The drag queen sings in its act that Biden is a "senile white supremacist". Can't argue with the facts. Should have thrown in "incestuous" and "rapist" and run the table!

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 09, 2022 05:40 PM (eQVV8)

165 > U.S. destroyer can't deploy because the commanding officer won't get COVID vaccine, Navy says.

https://bit.ly/3CrxqQ1

Posted by: bonhomme at March 09, 2022 05:40 PM (NahKu)

166 Biden, being the chauvinist, racist, and practically every other socially unacceptable -ist there is, was probably reaching back in what, for want of a better term, we shall call his "mind", and remembering the time when Polish jokes were popular. "Ah, if it takes that many to screw in a lightbulb, they're a cinch to fall for this war plane scheme!"

I absolutely cannot comprehend a state of affairs in which President Dumba$$ McDrool is president - and yet, here we are.

Posted by: Paco at March 09, 2022 05:40 PM (njExo)

167 "It's the Obama/Biden tradition."

Yes it is. Obama did it with Iran and the people's nascent revolution to escape the Mullahcracy. Imply the US will help and then run away at the exact moment the shooting starts and the allies would be decapitated.

Obama f***ed the people over before Biden did. Or Biden told Obama what to do because of his vast brilliance. Now, which scenario seems more likely?

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at March 09, 2022 05:40 PM (aXxgO)

168 Apparently the mayor of NYC, a declared "strict vegan" who wants to force kids in public schools to adopt veganism and compares eating cheese to being hooked on heroin....... goes to restaurants
and eats fish and... CHEESE!

Ffs. Stop the merry go round. I want off.

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 09, 2022 05:40 PM (W2Pud)

169 it did occur to me that the ideal solution would be a contrived "minor incursion" by Ukranian pilots and special forces to " " steal " " the planes but that's silly and also obvious and so why say it?

I mean, almost everything Jonah says is in those categories: Either so silly or so obvious so why even bother saying it?

Posted by: ace at March 09, 2022 05:41 PM (0G13K)

170
Here's my speculation: Poland wanted the US involved because they feared a Russia attack if they supplied Ukraine with the jets. And they also feared the US would fail to come to their defense as Article 5 of the NATO charter demands we must.
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I don't think that's speculation, I think it's plainly obvious and there's no alternative interpretation that makes sense. And that's a good thing.

Brandon's people can put all the lipstick on this pig that they want. They can tell the American people that the only time it's ok to wave a flag is if it's blue and yellow. They can tell every soused housewife in this country that Zelensky is the new Fabio. But it doesn't change the truth.

Outside the borders of this upside down, house-of-cards fantasyland we live in, the serious people of the world have to be finally getting a clue. I hope. They've watched Ukraine whore itself out (fartclam and all) for the US, and then Big Daddy left them to die when another scumbag country showed her its pimp-hand.

With this degringolade unfolding hot on the heels of the Afghan disaster, I sincerely hope, for their own sakes, that every country in the world is taking note.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 09, 2022 05:41 PM (SKVme)

171 >>160 If Jonah was a real man he'd fly those migs himself!

If Jonah was a real man he'd pee standing up.

Posted by: Capital Eff at March 09, 2022 05:41 PM (GYllL)

172 165 > U.S. destroyer can't deploy because the commanding officer won't get COVID vaccine, Navy says.

https://bit.ly/3CrxqQ1
Posted by: bonhomme at March 09, 2022 05:40 PM (NahKu)

Well good thing there are no military tensions anywhere.

Posted by: blaster at March 09, 2022 05:41 PM (9otr5)

173 Russia thought that USA will envelope Ukrainia into NATO ( for good reason). But who cares, no consequences.
Posted by: runner at March 09, 2022 05:37 PM (SjcEJ)

Then maybe they should have talked to us first. It appears Ukraine was talking more about being in Nato than the US or Nato.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 09, 2022 05:41 PM (Irn0L)

174 U.S. destroyer can't deploy because the commanding officer won't get COVID vaccine, Navy says.

https://bit.ly/3CrxqQ1
Posted by: bonhomme at March 09, 2022 05:40 PM (NahKu)

Well, the Navy can donkeyfuck then. You're job is to protect me, assholes, NOT force an ill-advised 'vaccine.'

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 09, 2022 05:41 PM (IXZGh)

175 Let's
Get
Biden
To
Quit!

Posted by: dc at March 09, 2022 05:41 PM (u0crE)

176 109 JonahDispatch 8h
The Polish foreign minister should accidentally mention on a zoom call with Ukraine that the keys to the jets are kept under the front seat and anyone could just walk on to the base and take them. wink
Posted by: jeannebodine at March 09, 2022 05:27 PM (quVxB)

This is the kind of quality knee slapper content you come up with when you stop stealing content from Ace.

Jonah understands comedy about as well as he understands the female body without another man in the room.

Posted by: Azathoth at March 09, 2022 05:41 PM (W3VUu)

177 >>What we're seeing here from the media is pathological recidivism. They cannot stop these episodes of manic hysteria that invariably come to a pile of discrediting failure. Completely uneducable, zero self-reflection.

Heh
@eugyppius

western media and politics have become the equivalent of hysterical crazy 30-something female who is always drunk and keying your car and throwing things and trying to read your text messages. this is no way to live. i want the west out of my life.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 09, 2022 05:41 PM (MmndN)

178 Every drunkard sleeping on a sidewalk in Warsaw could get far inside The Junta's OODA Loop within five minutes.

Posted by: Gref at March 09, 2022 05:41 PM (AMIL/)

179 Kamala: When one country commits to defend another country, its troops are committed to defend. We must take into account that- *vigorous head nodding* gravity situation. Ok?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

I can't even tell what's satire anymore

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 09, 2022 05:41 PM (lCui1)

180 If I was a Polish politician I'd have the military come up with a war plan with Russia that assumes the US/NATO do NOT come to my aid.

I don't expect Russia to attack Poland, but US intervention if they did would be completely based on Biden's poll numbers.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 09, 2022 05:41 PM (ESjRY)

181 Kammie's only position for success is on her back with legs spread.

Posted by: Bob at March 09, 2022 05:42 PM (d+5Bz)

182 For once in their history, Poland refused to play the dupe. good for them.

Posted by: goatexchange at March 09, 2022 05:42 PM (APPN8)

183 Every leftist asshole on twatter redid their avatar to be yellow over blue. So tweet them and compliment them on their cute colors, and advise them how to volunteer. They'll be issued their very own assault rifle, a real one, full auto, with a huge magazine.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at March 09, 2022 05:42 PM (KiBMU)

184 As was previously mentioned, during Vietnam, American pilots fought Russian Migs, sometimes with Russian pilots.
USA didn't consider this to be an "act of war" against the USA.
Putin may not be so charitable.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 09, 2022 05:42 PM (jTmQV)

185 Then maybe they should have talked to us first. It appears Ukraine was talking more about being in Nato than the US or Nato.

====

You are misinformed.

Posted by: runner at March 09, 2022 05:42 PM (SjcEJ)

186 U.S. destroyer can't deploy because the commanding officer won't get COVID vaccine, Navy says.

https://bit.ly/3CrxqQ1
Posted by: bonhomme at March 09, 2022 05:40 PM (NahKu)

Which is of course bullshit. There is a reason there is an XO

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 09, 2022 05:42 PM (Irn0L)

187 In other good news, both Israel and Turkey say the Ukrainians and the Russians are not far from a deal.

This war might be over before the MLB owners and players quit arguing over which side is richer, and end the current lockout.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 09, 2022 05:42 PM (eQVV8)

188 >>160 If Jonah was a real man he'd fly those migs himself!

>>If Jonah was a real man he'd pee standing up.

If Jonah was a real man, I'd beg him to come over and bang my wife.

Posted by: Bill Kristol at March 09, 2022 05:42 PM (lhr6a)

189
I mean, almost everything Jonah says is in those categories: Either so silly or so obvious so why even bother saying it?
Posted by: ace at March 09, 2022 05:41 PM (0G13K)

His favorite pastime is playing "Switch."

You know...the game where you put one thumb in your mouth and the other up your ass then someone yells out "SWITCH!"

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at March 09, 2022 05:42 PM (IXZGh)

190 #138: Russia has supplied plenty of weapons and ammunition that has been used against us while we were fighting, this is called repaying the favor.

Great power proxy wars and all that.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Naughty or Nice? Slay Ride 2 - Santa's Back!- at March 09, 2022 05:42 PM (3yqPP)

191 This plus the bioweapons labs...

Posted by: Moron Rubie - Enjoy your new DNA at March 09, 2022 05:35 PM (cUuEU)

"Hug a conspiracy theorist today, they keep getting it right!"

Posted by: Kindltot at March 09, 2022 05:42 PM (xhaym)

192 >>>Jonah understands comedy about as well as he understands the female body without another man in the room.

it's not even "comedy," it's supposed to be " " " cute. " " "

"Cute" works from a kid or a hot chick you just want to laugh with because you're in love with her anyway.

Jonah are you either of those? No?

Then shut the fuck up you gross fat manbaby.

Posted by: ace at March 09, 2022 05:43 PM (0G13K)

193 Look MR Putin, all I have to do is take out my phone, go to www.nuclearlaunch.gov username Veep, password TempPass1 and I can launch our nukes anywhere! Don't try me!

-Kamala at NATO press conference

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at March 09, 2022 05:43 PM (qnVBz)

194 If Jonah was a real man he'd pleasure his wife every now and again, instead of leaving it to the poolboy. And the UPS driver. And the Grub Hub delivery guy. And the census taker. And The Paolo.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 09, 2022 05:43 PM (HsAzN)

195 You are misinformed.
Posted by: runner at March 09, 2022 05:42 PM (SjcEJ)

Yeah ok, find me a link to where we offered Ukraine Nato Membership

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 09, 2022 05:43 PM (Irn0L)

196 Ace: "Now, why did Poland want to do it this way?"

Because their geopolitical apparatus is smarter than ours and smelled the rats.

Poland did the right thing for their country.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel Remembers Babbitt and Perna at March 09, 2022 05:43 PM (aXxgO)

197 What does France fly these days?

Posted by: runner at March 09, 2022 05:43 PM (SjcEJ)

198 >>>You know...the game where you put one thumb in your mouth and the other up your ass then someone yells out "SWITCH!"

OOOOOH, I do League Play!!!

Posted by: David French at March 09, 2022 05:43 PM (0G13K)

199 At this point I can see the Warsaw Pact getting the band back together because of the way our vile and incompetent boobs are running things.

Posted by: Beartooth at March 09, 2022 05:44 PM (+3ARs)

200 This is kinda hilarious actually. Trump wanted NATO countries to pony up and pay their share and invest in their own security. Biden with his fucked up policy and incompetent toddler brigade are fucking Europe and NATO. Which is causing those idiot countries to finally....... Pay their share and invest in their own security!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at March 09, 2022 05:44 PM (Vxu+H)

201 At this point I can see the Warsaw Pact getting the band back together because of the way our vile and incompetent boobs are running things.
Posted by: B

they would have to use a different name this time

Posted by: confederatefifth at March 09, 2022 05:44 PM (K3ZCc)

202 Good for Poland. Now Russia and the world knows we have anthrax labs in Ukraine. Is the support going to continue?

If they were supposed to be destroyed when the country was attacked, why weren't they?

Posted by: CN at March 09, 2022 05:44 PM (ONvIw)

203 Jesus, Joseph and Mary, just when I thought the administration couldn't be any more inept....

Posted by: Archer at March 09, 2022 05:44 PM (gmo/4)

204 Nice to see they sent a cocksucker to fence mend.

Posted by: torabora at March 09, 2022 05:45 PM (76KdS)

205 The USA under the deep state is like a sociopathic chick who keeps saying: hey why don't you and him fight I'll sit over here and watch!!!

Posted by: Its clown world anything is possible at March 09, 2022 05:45 PM (8ubGD)

206 Meanwhile, NASA will let you go to a website and put your name in and they will make a list of those names and put them on a thumb drive and put it on the Artemis uncrewed rocket launch that is about three years behind schedule. But they really want you to know:

The flight paves the way toward landing the first woman and the first person of color on the Moon!

So, you know, focus on the important stuff.

Posted by: blaster at March 09, 2022 05:45 PM (9otr5)

207 75 Jonah is asshoe

Posted by: CN at March 09, 2022 05:45 PM (ONvIw)

208 in fairness, everything about everybody in this is disappointing.

everybody from biden to putin and everybody in between is incompetent.

Posted by: confederatefifth at March 09, 2022 05:45 PM (K3ZCc)

209 Flounder, my comment about your Disney+ comment got willowed. Basically, for every cute uplifting Disney movie like Encanto, there is a Disney tween show with drag queen story hour, and they've put the tween actress in a bustier and a dress showing her butt. (I don't know the name of that show, but my eyes can never erase that from my mind.) so just lots of good monitoring when your kids are watching of what they are seeing.
Posted by: LizLem at March 09, 2022 05:36 PM

I was late in seeing that thread, but you should see the Polygon post on Disney today, and the comments. Also scroll to their previous articles in the last week on this. You will probably come to the conclusion that I have: everyone writing for, and commenting at, Polygon, is fucking children or wants to be.

https://tinyurl.com/3v83rhn8

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 09, 2022 05:45 PM (OssQ4)

210 so just lots of good monitoring when your kids are watching of what they are seeing.

Posted by: LizLem at March 09, 2022 05:36 PM (7ZtBF)

No worries. I know people like to voice their moral judgements over what other people should do. We watch together, and we carefully consider what they will be watching based on review. Thanks for the heads up. Wife could start her own streaming service with the Disney movies she's bought, but they are all the classics. Cancelling Disney+ is on the horizon, I am sure.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 09, 2022 05:45 PM (SH2Zi)

211 Reuters 12/9/2021

KYIV, Dec 9 (Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden assured Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy that Kyiv's bid to join the NATO military alliance was in its own hands, Zelenskiy's chief of staff said after the two leaders spoke on Thursday.

Posted by: runner at March 09, 2022 05:46 PM (SjcEJ)

212 Jesus, Joseph and Mary, just when I thought the administration couldn't be any more inept....
==
Do not underestimate Joe's ability to . . .

Posted by: It takes one to know one at March 09, 2022 05:46 PM (8ubGD)

213 The mindfuck merry-go-round never stops.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 09, 2022 05:46 PM (jA+gg)

214
I'm pretty sure that Veep Harris will blow it again.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 09, 2022 05:46 PM (OMayC)

215 If we have a treaty obligation to defend Poland against The Bear, then Poland doesn't get to poke The Bear without our say so.

Fair enough but that's not what happened. Biden said to Poland "Go ahead, poke that bear." Poland tried to hand Biden the stick and Biden squealed like a little girl and said "Nuh uh, I don't want that!"

Posted by: Oddbob at March 09, 2022 05:46 PM (nfrXX)

216 And we are always the good guys by comparison and the complete depravity of our enemies

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 09, 2022 05:39 PM (Irn0L)

Incorrect.

China may soon overtake it, but the US Federal government today is the greatest organized force for Evil in the world.

Posted by: Methos at March 09, 2022 05:46 PM (kOpft)

217 "President Biden said very clearly that the decision on Ukraine's accession to NATO is the decision of the Ukrainian people only, this is a sovereign and independent Ukrainian state," he said. "And it depends on Ukraine and NATO members."

In a call which Zelenskiy said lasted 1-1/2 hours, Ukraine's president also told Biden that he had "clear proposals to unblock the peace process" i

Posted by: runner at March 09, 2022 05:47 PM (SjcEJ)

218 >>201 At this point I can see the Warsaw Pact getting the band back together because of the way our vile and incompetent boobs are running things.
Posted by: B

they would have to use a different name this time
Posted by: confederatefifth

Kielbasa Kompact?

Posted by: Capital Eff at March 09, 2022 05:47 PM (GYllL)

219 So Poland now knows that "an attack on one NATO member is an attack on all" is just specious horseshit.

AND SO DOES PUTIN.

Poland gets it annexed too.

Posted by: torabora at March 09, 2022 05:47 PM (76KdS)

220 KYIV, Dec 9 (Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden assured Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy that Kyiv's bid to join the NATO military alliance was in its own hands, Zelenskiy's chief of staff said after the two leaders spoke on Thursday.
Posted by: runner at March 09, 2022 05:46 PM (SjcEJ)

And?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 09, 2022 05:47 PM (Irn0L)

221 It isn't like the Russians would see some Mig 29s in the sky and go "wonder where those came from?"
------------------
The Ukrainians use MiG-29s. [My apologies if I misunderstood your comment.]

BTW, from yesterday:
zerohedge @zerohedge; 1h
*Slovakia Considering Similar MiG-29 Handover Arrangement as Poland, Slovak Official Says -- WSJ

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at March 09, 2022 05:47 PM (UHVv4)

222 If the Ukraine and Russia are successful in cutting a deal I hope Ukraine agrees to never again cooperate with any US biological weapons research programs.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 09, 2022 05:47 PM (eQVV8)

223 At this point I can see the Warsaw Pact getting the band back together because of the way our vile and incompetent boobs are running things.
Posted by: Beartooth at March 09, 2022 05:44 PM (+3ARs)

Bring back the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 09, 2022 05:47 PM (M+Lyo)

224
everybody from biden to putin and everybody in between is incompetent.

Posted by: confederatefifth at March 09, 2022 05:45 PM (K3ZCc)

Utterly. It's fascinating. I used to think of Putin as being the adult in this particular room, but they're all a bunch of kids who got into a case of Mountain Dew.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 09, 2022 05:47 PM (SKVme)

225 Hey c5!

Posted by: SMH at God's grace at March 09, 2022 05:47 PM (BO3bF)

226 Blah blah, if you want it , you got It!

Posted by: runner at March 09, 2022 05:47 PM (SjcEJ)

227 16 Whatever happened to Putins ex wife?
____________

Don't know what happened to her, but I read an article the other day that said that some cleaning woman Putin knocked up years ago (and now has a grown daughter with) is now one of the richest women in Russia, thanks to her government position.

I hope she was smart enough to put some of her ill-gotten gains in foreign currency, given what's been happening to the ruble.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at March 09, 2022 05:47 PM (k4dH2)

228 And we are always the good guys by comparison and the complete depravity of our enemies

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 09, 2022 05:39 PM (Irn0L)

Yeah, the Russians will be placing bio-warfare labs in Ukraine once they are done. Also, LGBTQ!#$!@# training will be required starting in kindergarten. Sure, we're not depraved at all.

Posted by: WiNO at March 09, 2022 05:47 PM (EpDzw)

229 everyone writing for, and commenting at, Polygon, is fucking children or wants to be.

https://tinyurl.com/3v83rhn8

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 09, 2022 05:45 PM (OssQ4)

It's a Vox Media property, so that gibes.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 09, 2022 05:47 PM (SH2Zi)

230 Just the News reports:

FBI waited more than year to probe sources over Jan. 6 pipe bomb incident

https://bit.ly/34su0jg

Posted by: bonhomme at March 09, 2022 05:48 PM (NahKu)

231 Sure am glad the adults are back in charge...

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 09, 2022 05:48 PM (II3Gr)

232 >@eugyppius
Posted by: Lizzy at March 09, 2022 05:41 PM (MmndN)

The eugyppius substack is pretty good. My main critique of him is that he doesn't think there's any overarching globalist conspiracy/deep state, but he may get to that point if he keeps travelling down the red pill road. It's shocking to me that a supposed German bureaucrat is so based.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at March 09, 2022 05:48 PM (L9uv7)

233 If Jonah was a real man he'd pleasure his wife every now and again, instead of leaving it to the poolboy. And the UPS driver. And the Grub Hub delivery guy. And the census taker. And The Paolo.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 09, 2022 05:43 PM (HsAzN)

Kind of like that line to smack the hysterical woman in "Airplane!"

Posted by: Boswell at March 09, 2022 05:48 PM (5iUNf)

234 Dassaults for the d'assholes.

Posted by: Joe Mama at March 09, 2022 05:48 PM (WmGrA)

235 Poland is almost like a drunk girlfriend at a bar screaming to the biggest guy "my boyfriend can kick your ass!!!"

Am I the only one that sees it's kind of bullshit that Poland is willing to pull the US into WW3 so they don't get their hands dirty? But we better be willing to lay down life and limb for them if they are every attacked.

Why again does NATO benefit the US when our NATO allies are fine throwing the US under the bus like this?

These arrangements made sense in the days of the USSR, but Russia is not going to invade the US. They are a joke.

For the record, I think Putin is a menace, but not seeing how the average American benefits from us fighting everything.

Posted by: Blago at March 09, 2022 05:48 PM (wXQdC)

236 Zelensky should make a deal instead of trying to draw our country into WWIII.

Posted by: Reggie1971 at March 09, 2022 05:48 PM (996BY)

237 211 Biden doesn't think agreements are for him. His administration wants us nuked

Posted by: CN at March 09, 2022 05:48 PM (ONvIw)

238 Cancelling Disney+ is on the horizon, I am sure.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur at March 09, 2022 05:45 PM (SH2Zi)

You can always cancel and then re-up when they put out a new deal...always cost them more to have and try to maintain you as a subscriber than you pay them. Then, it's a win/win for you.

That's my streaming win/win - I have a bunch of free and highly reduced priced channels this year which differ from the ones I had last year...and this Black Friday, they'll all be swapped up again...

Posted by: Nova local at March 09, 2022 05:48 PM (exHjb)

239 Then there was a conversation with Putin when Bidet called him fat and told him to talk to the hand. The rest is history.

Posted by: runner at March 09, 2022 05:49 PM (SjcEJ)

240 Today our Energy Secretary, who looks like the president of an HOA who's at your door again to remind you for the third time while you can't change your oil in the driveway, called on the oil companies to start producing more fuel "for the war effort" because she's that amazing combination of mentally retarded and mentally ill.

Posted by: Azathoth at March 09, 2022 05:49 PM (W3VUu)

241 I sure hope Poland bought lots of extra missiles for the anti missile system they bought from us. And parts and such.

I wouldn't trust the US for much if I was a foreign country. And that's a strange feeling.

I just had a similar feeling today when the Russian Spokeslady comes out today and points right at the US and says" we have your biological weapons. We've got your chemical weapons" And then Putin accuses the US of violating the world treaty on biologicals and chemicals weapons from the '70s and says we should be taken the World court for that.

And I thought; what if the rest of the world agrees and allies together to land an assault on the US for being a War Criminal Regime. Could some of us really say they don't have the right? Could we then fight and lose and become called War Criminals and punished as Germany was? How does it feel to realize that we could be the Bad Guys here? And that the War Criminals in DC have gotten us to this point but we're the ones who will pay?

Posted by: jakee308 at March 09, 2022 05:49 PM (9RkRx)

242 Please Mr. Custer...I don't want to go.

Posted by: torabora at March 09, 2022 05:49 PM (76KdS)

243 Poso called it a hot potato. It sounds insane. The poles figured out the grift and did not want to be conned into getting bombed.

I think our fascist state's overreaction to the Russian invasion (yes yes putin bad but let's talk geostrategy like adults and not stamp our feet like impotent children) is that by cutting off Russia from nice Western amenities (which are supposed to make warmongering commies nicer) is that we drove the axis of evil closer together and reduced our influence.

The question becomes, if Russia India China Mexico and whoever else gets too close, that reduces our touch and can lead to the end of the dollar as an international reserve currency. In which case, you are fucked. Go straight to District 9.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at March 09, 2022 05:49 PM (ZZK0E)

244 this is as if you were watching macbeth but everybody was replaced by rosencrantz and guildenstern.

yes I know those aguys are from a different show but macbeth does not have equally incompetent and unimportant characters.

Posted by: confederatefifth at March 09, 2022 05:49 PM (K3ZCc)

245 Poland is almost like a drunk girlfriend at a bar screaming to the biggest guy "my boyfriend can kick your ass!!!"

And now we've come full circle to a major theme of the previous thread...

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 09, 2022 05:49 PM (II3Gr)

246 "President Biden said very clearly that the decision on Ukraine's accession to NATO is the decision of the Ukrainian people only, this is a sovereign and independent Ukrainian state," he said. "And it depends on Ukraine and NATO members."

In a call which Zelenskiy said lasted 1-1/2 hours, Ukraine's president also told Biden that he had "clear proposals to unblock the peace process" i
Posted by: runner at March 09, 2022 05:47 PM (SjcEJ)

And? You have to meet certain criteria to join Nato and be voted in, NONE of that was met. NO invitation was ever extended to Ukraine to join Nato, and for good reason, no matter what that moron biden babbled

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 09, 2022 05:49 PM (Irn0L)

247 KYIV, Dec 9 (Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden assured Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy that Kyiv's bid to join the NATO military alliance was in its own hands, Zelenskiy's chief of staff said after the two leaders spoke on Thursday.
Posted by: runner at March 09, 2022 05:46 PM (SjcEJ)

And?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 09, 2022 05:47 PM (Irn0L)

You can't admit you're wrong and are banging the table.

Posted by: WiNO at March 09, 2022 05:49 PM (EpDzw)

248 >>Jonah understands comedy about as well as he understands the female body without another man in the room.

He's so enamored with Marvel/Joss Whedon snark and clever plot twists he thinks it would be rad to behave the same way in real life. No, Jonah, there is no hip Tony Stark waiting in the wings to send the planes directly from his warehouse to Ukraine, marking the occasion with some aged scotch and a few pop-culture saturated insults at Putin.

Posted by: Lizzy at March 09, 2022 05:49 PM (MmndN)

249 236 I suspect he had a deal to get on the plane before Russia invaded.

Posted by: CN at March 09, 2022 05:50 PM (ONvIw)

250 I watched that press conference with Pent Sec Kirby and I thought my ears were going to bleed. Painful.

This guy can read but he's a horrible speaker and can't think on his feet.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at March 09, 2022 05:50 PM (oWZwa)

251 China may soon overtake it, but the US Federal government today is the greatest organized force for Evil in the world.
___

This^

Not to mention the greatest exporter of filth.

But on the flip side, the most Christians, for the most part.

Posted by: SMH at God's grace at March 09, 2022 05:50 PM (BO3bF)

252 The nukes were useless. The Russians had the launch codes and weren't about to turn them over. Add in that Ukraine is dirt poor and unlikely to be able to maintain them.

Posted by: WiNO at March 09, 2022 05:25 PM (EpDzw)

-------

Obviously unaware of that -- and surprised this is the first time I've heard it, thanks.

Posted by: ShainS -- Honk Semper Tyrannis! at March 09, 2022 05:50 PM (XbTPm)

253 FBI waited more than year to probe sources over Jan. 6 pipe bomb incident

https://bit.ly/34su0jg
Posted by: bonhomme at March 09, 2022 05:48 PM (NahKu)

How hard is it to ask Bob at the FBI HQ water cooler on Jan 7th if he was seen? Come on!

Posted by: Boswell at March 09, 2022 05:50 PM (5iUNf)

254 From what I understand, the sitcking point is Poland wants Ukrainian pilots to fly missions out of Ramstein, not just transfer planes to be flown out of Ukrainian bases. That would pretty much invite an attack on the Ramstein, which puts us into direct conflict with the Russians.

I don't understand why the Poles would want this, but it would be a very, very bad idea to have Ukrainian aircraft attacking Russians from US air bases in Germany.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 09, 2022 05:50 PM (wGeit)

255 SMH!!!!!

Posted by: confederatefifth at March 09, 2022 05:50 PM (K3ZCc)

256 China and Mexico make everything.
India and Mexico supply us with workers (we already decided that american workers are overpaid nazis who must be punched).
Russia has some oil.
The Saudis, and I assume Iran, also have oil.

we have dollars. But our lizard demon overlords demolished their value.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at March 09, 2022 05:51 PM (ZZK0E)

257 Poland -- We do not trust your leaders.

Us -- Welcome to the party, pal.

Posted by: GnuBreed at March 09, 2022 05:51 PM (F0YaR)

258 You can't admit you're wrong and are banging the table.
Posted by: WiNO at March 09, 2022 05:49 PM (EpDzw)

That's going to require a LOT of lube.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 09, 2022 05:51 PM (II3Gr)

259 So glad the AdULts ArE iN cHarGe now!

Posted by: A dude in MI at March 09, 2022 05:51 PM (/6GbT)

260 This plus the bioweapons labs...

Posted by: Moron Rubie - Enjoy your new DNA at March 09, 2022 05:35 PM (cUuEU)

"Hug a conspiracy theorist today, they keep getting it right!"

Posted by: Kindltot at March 09, 2022 05:42 PM (xhaym)

It's isn't a conspiracy theory, Rubio and Nuland talked about Fauci's Ukrainian division in a hearing yesterday.

Incidentally does anyone really want to be China and Ukraine were the only placed he was cooking up WMDs?

Posted by: Methos at March 09, 2022 05:51 PM (kOpft)

261 246 The moron W pursued this in 2008

Posted by: CN at March 09, 2022 05:51 PM (ONvIw)

262 the US Federal government today is the greatest organized force for Evil in the world.
Posted by: Methos at March 09, 2022 05:46 PM (kOpft)

Sorry you feel that way.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 09, 2022 05:51 PM (Irn0L)

263 If you're going to send a whore to negotiate, make sure it's a whore that someone would actually want to bang.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at March 09, 2022 05:51 PM (VbI7r)

264 >The flight paves the way toward landing the first woman and the first person of color on the Moon!

Posted by: blaster at March 09, 2022 05:45 PM (9otr5)

Needs a 4chan-like campaign to demand to know why Artemis isn't sending the first autistic intersex POC to the moon.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at March 09, 2022 05:51 PM (L9uv7)

265 202 Good for Poland. Now Russia and the world knows we have anthrax labs in Ukraine. Is the support going to continue?

*ahem* had.

Posted by: Putin I, Tsar of all the Russias at March 09, 2022 05:51 PM (sGtp+)

266 >>201 At this point I can see the Warsaw Pact getting the band back together because of the way our vile and incompetent boobs are running things.
Posted by: B

they would have to use a different name this time
Posted by: confederatefifth

The Polka Pact?

Posted by: Capital Eff at March 09, 2022 05:51 PM (GYllL)

267 At this point I can see the Warsaw Pact getting the band back together because of the way our vile and incompetent boobs are running things.
==
well, not sympathy for the devil or anything, but, you got Klaus Schwab and George Soros running super villain ops in a Country next door, with the cover of the US black ops budget doing dirty tricks. Its not foolishness to want to protect yourself from that ilk.

Posted by: how'd you like them for neighbors? at March 09, 2022 05:51 PM (8ubGD)

268 141 2014 Russian invade Ukraine:

The media: Putin bad or something? [A few days later] OMG Malaysian Airlines Flight 17 was swallowed by a black hole!

2022 Russian invade Ukraine:

The media: We Americans must be willing to start a nuclear holocaust to protect the sacred borders of Ukraine.

Posted by: 18-1 at March 09, 2022 05:36 PM (ESjRY)

By tomorrow morning the Media is going to demand the US start a nuclear holocaust in order to save the women and children in Ukrainian cities being killed by Russian shelling and bombing.

Posted by: Gref at March 09, 2022 05:52 PM (AMIL/)

269 #186: I bet there are plenty of US Navy captsins that would be happy to have a sea command, but I would recommend a good one because it sounds like some problems may be present on that vessel.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Naughty or Nice? Slay Ride 2 - Santa's Back!- at March 09, 2022 05:52 PM (3yqPP)

270 Am I the only one that sees it's kind of bullshit that Poland is willing to pull the US into WW3 so they don't get their hands dirty? But we better be willing to lay down life and limb for them if they are every attacked.
....
Posted by: Blago at March 09, 2022 05:48 PM (wXQdC

I think you got it backward. Blinked tried to make the Poles the fall guy first. Poland responded, you want these Migs in Ukraine, YOU put them there.

Posted by: blaster at March 09, 2022 05:52 PM (9otr5)

271 in fairness, until restaurants change the menu spelling I am going with kiev.

Posted by: confederatefifth at March 09, 2022 05:52 PM (K3ZCc)

272 Poland is almost like a drunk girlfriend at a bar screaming to the biggest guy "my boyfriend can kick your ass!!!"

----

Poland is stuck between the two biggest murdering asshole races in the western world. They just want a boyfriend who will keep them from getting slaughtered every 50 years.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at March 09, 2022 05:52 PM (ZZK0E)

273 The U.S. / NATO needs to stay away from this as far as possible. Nothing good can come from any involvement whatsoever.

Posted by: Eat The Eloi at March 09, 2022 05:52 PM (BvNzB)

274 The Soviets landed here as the Cold War was petering out and then rushed through the rest of the Long March like bosses. Why *wouldn't* they be all for getting the band back together???

The clue was the way Democrats suddenly decided in 2015 that Russia was on the side of American conservatives and vice versa... when that is nothing but utter lunacy. And when it of course was backed by quite obviously working with Russians themselves.

Posted by: ... at March 09, 2022 05:52 PM (dscaa)

275 And I thought; what if the rest of the world agrees and allies together to land an assault on the US for being a War Criminal Regime. Could some of us really say they don't have the right? Could we then fight and lose and become called War Criminals and punished as Germany was? How does it feel to realize that we could be the Bad Guys here? And that the War Criminals in DC have gotten us to this point but we're the ones who will pay?
Posted by: jakee308

My nomination for comment of the week.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 09, 2022 05:52 PM (OssQ4)

276 254 Poland wants the US and Germany to commit before they do. Very wise

Posted by: CN at March 09, 2022 05:52 PM (ONvIw)

277 128 >> JonahDispatch 8h
If BOTH of my wife's boyfriends are here, is she a Sanwich?
Posted by: garrett

That should make the sidebar.

Posted by: Biff Pocoroba at March 09, 2022 05:52 PM (YFAIE)

278 Only a fool would trust the Junta running things in the US.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 09, 2022 05:53 PM (XvPQV)

279 214
I'm pretty sure that Veep Harris will blow it again.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 09, 2022 05:46 PM (OMayC)

I am pretty sure that is a sexual inference, however, Harris never says anything of value anyway. She speaks without commitment. Zero impact.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 09, 2022 05:53 PM (0W3z4)

280 Our foreign policy seems to be nothing but middle school dares. "no, you do it!"

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 09, 2022 05:53 PM (6lMp2)

281 It's isn't a conspiracy theory, Rubio and Nuland talked about Fauci's Ukrainian division in a hearing yesterday.

Incidentally does anyone really want to be China and Ukraine were the only placed he was cooking up WMDs?
Posted by: Methos at March 09, 2022 05:51 PM (kOpft)

A week ago the "fact checkers" were saying that was a conspiracy theory.

Flash to bang time on conspiracy theories is getting shorter.

Posted by: blaster at March 09, 2022 05:54 PM (9otr5)

282 SCOAMF years look like the glory days compared to these frickin idiots. Stolen elections have consequences

Posted by: A dude in MI at March 09, 2022 05:54 PM (/6GbT)

283 Poland is stuck between the two biggest murdering asshole races in the western world. They just want a boyfriend who will keep them from getting slaughtered every 50 years.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at March 09, 2022 05:52 PM

Well Poland does have the 2nd largest military in NATO after the US. I suspect they could stop putin cold if he decided to come after them.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at March 09, 2022 05:54 PM (bVYXr)

284 "No, you take it!" - Bob McKenzie
"No, *you* take it!" - Doug McKenzie
"[hocks up loogy]" - Bob McKenzie

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at March 09, 2022 05:54 PM (ZSK0i)

285 the US Federal government today is the greatest organized force for Evil in the world.
Posted by: Methos

------

several key points.

1. you are a domestic terrorist if you disagree with any of the below.
2. they stand for trannies above all, they want your kids.
3. they are the armed escorts for 3rd world invaders. they also are paying for them to relocate within the USA.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at March 09, 2022 05:54 PM (ZZK0E)

286 272. Poland is like the smart person who doesn't fight a heavyweight when goaded by his frenz

Posted by: CN at March 09, 2022 05:54 PM (ONvIw)

287 Here's my speculation: Poland wanted the US involved because they feared a Russia attack if they supplied Ukraine with the jets. And they also feared the US would fail to come to their defense as Article 5 of the NATO charter demands we must.

Poland tried to rely on allies before when they were threatened with a two front war with Germany and the Soviet Union: they ended up occupied from 1939 until 1989, effectively. Good on them for demanding actions behind the given word.

Posted by: Moki at March 09, 2022 05:54 PM (JrN/x)

288 278 Only a fool would trust the Junta running things in the US.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 09, 2022 05:53 PM (XvPQV)

Yep.

Oh, please check your email. Just sent you something.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 09, 2022 05:54 PM (II3Gr)

289 Fuck. What if "Uke" was gonna be the site of the next global bio op. Just in time for the 2024 election run? What if..........

Posted by: ... at March 09, 2022 05:54 PM (dscaa)

290 I could see a Warsaw Pact minus Russia happening. Russia is crooked. The West is evil. Who's left to turn to?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 09, 2022 05:54 PM (6FeV1)

291 Yep.

Oh, please check your email. Just sent you something.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 09, 2022 05:54 PM (II3Gr)

Oooh, cool. Thanks.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 09, 2022 05:54 PM (XvPQV)

292 I realize Poland wants to upgrade its fighter fleet from MiG 29s to F-16s but this isn't the way to do it. Any possibility of getting on the wrong side of Russia is nuts for the Poles.

Run, Poles, run!!!

Posted by: Sharkman at March 09, 2022 05:54 PM (Dv1Qm)

293 It is a be sad that when I read poland's offer details yesterday my first thought was

"that is smart"

Posted by: confederatefifth at March 09, 2022 05:55 PM (K3ZCc)

294 Has Kamala ever blown a Pole?

Posted by: Stateless at March 09, 2022 05:55 PM (FsZ2q)

295 Harris looks to be ready to burst out laughing again in that photo.

I looked it up. Uncontrollable laughter is called the Pseudobulbar affect, otherwise known as emotional incontinence.

Posted by: Javems at March 09, 2022 05:55 PM (uokEN)

296 280 Our foreign policy seems to be nothing but middle school dares. "no, you do it!"

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our foreign policy is weaponizing international disputes into domestic attacks against republicans.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at March 09, 2022 05:55 PM (ZZK0E)

297 >>If BOTH of my wife's boyfriends are here, is she a Sanwich?
Posted by: garrett

LOL

A rube-in sandwich?

Posted by: Lizzy at March 09, 2022 05:55 PM (MmndN)

298 No, Jonah, there is no hip Tony Stark waiting in the wings to send the planes directly from his warehouse to Ukraine, marking the occasion with some aged scotch and a few pop-culture saturated insults at Putin.
Posted by: Lizzy at March 09, 2022 05:49 PM (MmndN)

* takes a big slug of Bud Light Seltzer. Throws a paper airplane*

"Putin's gonna be poopin' like Yogi Bear after eating a pikanik basket full of Ex-Lax."

*turns to camera*
Take it or leave it, Jonah.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 09, 2022 05:55 PM (OMayC)

299 Yeah...should have known too late

Posted by: Stateless at March 09, 2022 05:55 PM (FsZ2q)

300 What's worse than "leading from behind?"

This.

You now understand that we-- for all the world to see-- just tried to trick an ally into committing an act of war?

Posted by: Well at March 09, 2022 05:55 PM (0dGgW)

301 From what I understand, the sitcking point is Poland wants Ukrainian pilots to fly missions out of Ramstein, not just transfer planes to be flown out of Ukrainian bases. That would pretty much invite an attack on the Ramstein, which puts us into direct conflict with the Russians.

I don't understand why the Poles would want this, but it would be a very, very bad idea to have Ukrainian aircraft attacking Russians from US air bases in Germany.
Posted by: Ace's liver

____

It's the same reason Israel wants us in every Middle East war. It benefits them.

They just care about their own interests, not ours or the world's.

Not saying its wrong, but maybe the US should do the same? Is it worth a few hundred thousand dead US troops to protect a Ukraine or Poland that was once a satellite state of the Soviet Union anyway?

Posted by: Blago at March 09, 2022 05:56 PM (wXQdC)

302 283 look at those cute mushroom clouds over Warsaw..no thanks. Not to support graft, and biolabs that we deny til they are found.

Posted by: CN at March 09, 2022 05:56 PM (ONvIw)

303 278 Only a fool would trust the Junta running things in the US.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

The sad thing is even if Trump or someone like DeSantis wins 2024, how can the rest of the world trust that the Deep State won't undo and sabotage all their deals?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 09, 2022 05:56 PM (lCui1)

304 294 Has Kamala ever blown a Pole?
Posted by: Stateless at March 09, 2022 05:55 PM (FsZ2q)

She's been cocked more times than John Wayne's rifle.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 09, 2022 05:56 PM (N39Ws)

305 This all just sounds like a family fight between white racist countries. Why should the DEI States of America care about any of this?

Posted by: Ripley at March 09, 2022 05:56 PM (MxEKc)

306 I looked it up. Uncontrollable laughter is called the Pseudobulbar affect, otherwise known as emotional incontinence.
Posted by: Javems at
March 09, 2022 05:55 PM (uokEN)
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Peeing one's emo-pants.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at March 09, 2022 05:56 PM (T8gyh)

307 I don't like Zelensky much, but his behavior makes a lot more sense if you think he had guarantees from the Biden regime that didn't quite pan out. It sucks to be a comedian in this position, but no one made the posing fucker insist on becoming leader of the Ukraine.

Posted by: trev006 at March 09, 2022 05:56 PM (IbM98)

308 I keep calling them "that bunch of incompetents in the White House." They've yet to exceed my lower than Hell expectations.
.
I was away last week on vacation, and following events in Ukraine a bit but not reading in depth. I was still astonished that the Russians apparently can't conduct sustainment and haven't mastered the art of logistics. Didn't they learn ANYTHING from Napoleon's march to and from Moscow?? (http://nowscape.com/images/map_napoleon_moscow.gif)
.
I thought Vlad was better than this. Now to hope that he won't break the nuclear threshold because his "special military operation" has gone sideways.

Posted by: Beltway Elite at March 09, 2022 05:56 PM (BPhfN)

309 Obviously unaware of that -- and surprised this is the first time I've heard it, thanks.
Posted by: ShainS -- Honk Semper Tyrannis! at March 09, 2022 05:50 PM (XbTPm)

It gets in the way of the meme. I understand that. The Russians were OCD about controlling nukes and properly so. Would you want some "republic" able to nuke Moscow? Same reason it required three guys on a boomer to launch.

Posted by: WiNO at March 09, 2022 05:56 PM (EpDzw)

310 It's isn't a conspiracy theory, Rubio and Nuland talked about Fauci's Ukrainian division in a hearing yesterday.

Incidentally does anyone really want to be China and Ukraine were the only placed he was cooking up WMDs?
Posted by: Methos at March 09, 2022 05:51 PM (kOpft)

The sticking point is that the Poles don't want it to happen. The US does. So the Poles said okay YOU do it.

Then we said, no, that would be bad.

Posted by: blaster at March 09, 2022 05:57 PM (9otr5)

311
Polish cops are kind of a trip. They have a lot of regular cops, like here. But they also have these federal cops, hardcore guys. This is my recollection from 20 years ago, and this might have changed.

Anyway, these federal cops were always huge - I think they select for size and strength. And they wore tactical gear, and had these giant nightsticks, like 3' long. But they would ride around on Vespas. The first time I saw it, I thought I was hallucinating.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 09, 2022 05:57 PM (SKVme)

312 >the US Federal government today is the greatest organized force for Evil in the world.
Posted by: Methos at March 09, 2022 05:46 PM (kOpft)

I believe that quite a number of us here feel that way now.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at March 09, 2022 05:57 PM (L9uv7)

313 My prediction for Kamamamaalala's take:

"Let me be clear; we all know that peace is the goal and with that goal in mind today and always is the time for us to reach that goal, and we are heartened by the support of our allies and everyone across Europe and such as including Germany and the hard working Ukrainians and therefore all are with us in full determination that together as one we can achieve it."

Posted by: LASue at March 09, 2022 05:57 PM (Ed8Zd)

314 ked it up. Uncontrollable laughter is called the Pseudobulbar affect, otherwise known as emotional incontinence.

---

Interesting, but I think girlbosses attended a conference a decade ago where it was suggested giggling and laughing were good replacements for a personality and charm.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at March 09, 2022 05:57 PM (ZZK0E)

315 263 If you're going to send a whore to negotiate, make sure it's a whore that someone would actually want to bang.
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at March 09, 2022 05:51 PM (VbI7r)

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: April Glaspy at March 09, 2022 05:57 PM (JrN/x)

316 Well Poland does have the 2nd largest military in NATO after the US. I suspect they could stop putin cold if he decided to come after them.
Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at March 09, 2022 05:54 PM (bVYXr)

Turks are #2. The Poles have dramatically increased Defense spending, though. Hopefully in time...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 09, 2022 05:57 PM (XvPQV)

317 270 Excellent

Posted by: CN at March 09, 2022 05:58 PM (ONvIw)

318 The Enigma story including the Poles. The Brits told the Poles crypto researches that war was imminent circa late July and the Poles gave the Brits and the French one each of Enigma models that the Poles had built and the Poles destroyed their secret files and fled to France. They worked in France under the DXB until France was falling and then evacuated by the Brits to England. Miraculously, none of the occupied French crypto personnel were questioned about Enigma knowledge by the Germans nor that the Poles had broken at least part of their codes.

https://cryptomuseum.com/crypto/enigma/hist.htm

Rest of the story. So no, the Poles were not betrayed by the Brits or the French but had done a great deal to save the British later.

Posted by: whig at March 09, 2022 05:58 PM (Iq9dF)

319
When you send jets, you send jets all the way
From the shores of Murmansk to Sevastopol's fine bay!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 09, 2022 05:58 PM (pNxlR)

320 I thought Vlad was better than this. Now to hope that he won't break the nuclear threshold because his "special military operation" has gone sideways.
Posted by: Beltway Elite at March 09, 2022 05:56 PM (BPhfN)

How do you know it has gone sideways? I don't know what the initial plan was. I can also offer counter explanations for why it is working close to plan. But, that would be just as much guessing as the "Putin has Failed!" people.

Posted by: WiNO at March 09, 2022 05:58 PM (EpDzw)

321 Just how many hours in running time are those AF-2 jet engines?

Will no one rid me of that pole-sucking Vice President?
-LGBrandon

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 09, 2022 05:58 PM (u82oZ)

322 don't forget the feds lost Af-stan in part because they decided to teach gaywad intersectional feminism to Kabul's women folk.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at March 09, 2022 05:58 PM (ZZK0E)

323 The sad thing is even if Trump or someone like DeSantis wins 2024, how can the rest of the world trust that the Deep State won't undo and sabotage all their deals?
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 09, 2022 05:56 PM (lCui1)

Yup. That's why I said yesterday that I don't think Trump 2024 would save us.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 09, 2022 05:59 PM (XvPQV)

324 Rest of the story. So no, the Poles were not betrayed by the Brits or the French but had done a great deal to save the British later.
Posted by: whig at March 09, 2022 05:58 PM (Iq9dF)

That's not how they tell the story at Bletchley Park.

Posted by: blaster at March 09, 2022 05:59 PM (9otr5)

325 #222 any agreement with the Russians is crap.
In 1994 they agreed to guarantee Ukraine's borders.

And so did U.K. and US

Posted by: torabora at March 09, 2022 05:59 PM (76KdS)

326 The first time I saw it, I thought I was hallucinating.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 09, 2022 05:57 PM (SKVme)

CZIPs

Starring Ezrzrikz Ezsztrzrazdra

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 09, 2022 05:59 PM (6FeV1)

327 looked it up. Uncontrollable laughter is called the Pseudobulbar affect, otherwise known as emotional incontinence.
Posted by: Javems

It's pretty messed up. I used to laugh inappropriately during high stress/high anxiety situations. I suspect it's much how people with OCD feel. It's like a pressure from within, and you feel like you're going to explode if you don't do what it is you're feeling that extreme urge to do.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 09, 2022 05:59 PM (II3Gr)

328
When is SecGhey Buttgiggity going to Ukraine to advocate that they all purchase electric vehicles?

Might as well make this the flamingest of flaming clown boner shows!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 09, 2022 06:00 PM (pNxlR)

329 The United States of Pussies.

Posted by: Jak Sucio at March 09, 2022 06:00 PM (g/Dto)

330 >the US Federal government today is the greatest organized force for Evil in the world.
Posted by: Methos at March 09, 2022 05:46 PM (kOpft)
==============
True, except for ham-and-egger FBI guys working hard to substantiate dossiers on the front lines!

Posted by: Sean Hannity, again at March 09, 2022 06:00 PM (eQVV8)

331 The first rule of Proxy War Club is you dont talk about Proxy War Club.

Posted by: Zek at March 09, 2022 06:00 PM (OzNIz)

332 We have 3 more years of this administration and if we don't win in 2024 it'll be 7yrs.

If that happens I'll have to live on Xanax.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 09, 2022 06:00 PM (NpAcC)

333 It's isn't a conspiracy theory, Rubio and Nuland talked about Fauci's Ukrainian division in a hearing yesterday.

Incidentally does anyone really want to be China and Ukraine were the only placed he was cooking up WMDs?

Posted by: Methos at March 09, 2022 05:51 PM (kOpft)

Not you, me. I was called a conspiracy theorist about this a week ago. Something about Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever . . .

And I like hugs.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 09, 2022 06:00 PM (xhaym)

334 Oh hell. I actually forgot that Turkey was part of NATO now.

If anyone were gonna do a full on Leeroy Jenkins to kick off WWIII....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 09, 2022 06:01 PM (6FeV1)

335 The U.S. / NATO needs to stay away from this as far as possible. Nothing good can come from any involvement whatsoever.
Posted by: Eat The Eloi at March 09, 2022 05:52 PM (BvNzB)

This current US admin isn't able to understand this...but you are getting sense now how pathetic Russian conventional military might and strategy is - you don't threaten nukes if you have it all in a sock as far as your ground forces go. We saw this in the 80's and I think Reagan and his staff understood it as well.

At some point in the next 5 or 6 years, if we are lucky to have a real US foreign policy crew in DC, the Russians are going to regret mightily that they pulled their Komono down and showed folks that the whole Russian military is as busted as Patton told Eisenhower it was all those years ago.

Posted by: Boswell at March 09, 2022 06:01 PM (5iUNf)

336 Well, you see, we've got these planes over here, and somebody needs them over there, and there's not here, but no, you can't move them there first, no, no, NO! Not there! Over there-there!

Posted by: Mr Gaga at March 09, 2022 06:01 PM (KiBMU)

337 51 How many Kumalas does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

"Screw in a lightbulb? Tee-hee. I've screwed everywhere else, but that seems like a tight fit. I guess if I position myself for suck-cess, I can do it!"
----
Cess is on the very top floor, ladies. Go on up.

Posted by: Ciampino at March 09, 2022 06:01 PM (qfLjt)

338 307. I initially liked him. So sue me I wanted the Jewish hero to be true. And I wanted to believe we were the good guys. Thanks to those Rons who linked to our agreements to not expand NATO, and to Ukraine oligarch corruption, and Soros ' part in all this.

Posted by: CN at March 09, 2022 06:01 PM (ONvIw)

339 The United States of Pussies.
Posted by: Jak Sucio at March 09, 2022 06:00 PM (g/Dto)
============
and cocksuckers!

Posted by: Kumlala Harris, President in Waiting at March 09, 2022 06:01 PM (eQVV8)

340 Hiya Moki !

Posted by: JT at March 09, 2022 06:02 PM (arJlL)

341 The sad thing is even if Trump or someone like DeSantis wins 2024, how can the rest of the world trust that the Deep State won't undo and sabotage all their deals?
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 09, 2022 05:56 PM (lCui1)

A Truth and Reconciliation Commission followed by public hangings of various State Department, CIA, NSA, and FBI personnel would go a long way to restoring confidence in us as a serious nation.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 09, 2022 06:02 PM (yQpMk)

342 Maybe willowed, but right now, on Rumble, you can watch Oliver Stones' (I know, I know...) 2014 documentary "Ukraine on Fire".
It's 95 minutes long, I just watched it.
Lots of good history and information.
Free, no ads.
It costs $ to stream it everywhere else.
YT pulled it, so it must be good.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 09, 2022 06:02 PM (jTmQV)

343 3 MiG Monte

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 09, 2022 06:02 PM (II3Gr)

344 They told me if Trump was President we'd be laughingstocks on the global stage.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 09, 2022 06:02 PM (LKTKP)

345 Only a fool would trust the Junta running things in the US.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 09, 2022 05:53 PM (XvPQV)

Yep.

Oh, please check your email. Just sent you something.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker.

You never send me nuthin'.

Posted by: JT at March 09, 2022 06:02 PM (arJlL)

346 What's worse than "leading from behind?"

This.

You now understand that we-- for all the world to see-- just tried to trick an ally into committing an act of war?

Posted by: Well at March 09, 2022 05:55 PM (0dGgW)

It's worse than that.

Poland's army can probably take the forces Russia has in Ukraine (which is all Russia can afford to put beyond its borders) by themselves if for some reason they were called to, which means Putin doesn't have a conventional option to deal with them.

Biden regime just tried to trick them into getting nuked.

Posted by: Methos at March 09, 2022 06:03 PM (kOpft)

347 I suspect it's much how people with OCD feel. It's like a pressure from within, and you feel like you're going to explode if you don't do what it is you're feeling that extreme urge to do.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 09, 2022 05:59 PM (II3Gr)

Oh, fercrissakes, go ahead and do it.

Play "The Pina Colada" song on ukulele.

Get it out of your system.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 09, 2022 06:03 PM (OMayC)

348 The sad thing is even if Trump or someone like DeSantis wins 2024, how can the rest of the world trust that the Deep State won't undo and sabotage all their deals?
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion
___

Maybe DeSantis wouldn't ask obvious Deep State actors like Comey to stay on?

I still contend 90% of Trump's issues were bad personnel decisions.

The entire Russia/Mueller bullshit would have been canned in a day had Trump simply asked Sessions to resign when he recused himself. Badly mishandled on almost every level.

Posted by: Blago at March 09, 2022 06:03 PM (wXQdC)

349 If 28 Migs will defeat the Russian Air Force we should give them to them. Yesterday

Posted by: torabora at March 09, 2022 06:03 PM (76KdS)

350 Methos

Quite true. After all, we funded and help Wuhan.

With AIDS policy and Covid policy NIH and Fauci are up to 5 million dead.

I would not friend the US Government. It is a couple of criminal tribes ripping off Americans.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 09, 2022 06:03 PM (u82oZ)

351 I'm so sick of WarPig Bret Baier.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at March 09, 2022 06:03 PM (KiBMU)

352 "A Truth and Reconciliation Commission followed by public hangings of various State Department, CIA, NSA, and FBI personnel would go a long way to restoring confidence in us as a serious nation."

Fire everybody possible and lock the doors. Let 'em see what it's like on the outside.

Posted by: fd at March 09, 2022 06:03 PM (vrz2I)

353 Our entire foreign policy and military leadership is a cancer. There is no curing it, it would have to be excised.

Idiots.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 09, 2022 06:03 PM (DFWJJ)

354 A Truth and Reconciliation Commission followed by public hangings of various State Department, CIA, NSA, and FBI personnel would go a long way to restoring confidence in us as a serious nation.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 09, 2022 06:02 PM (yQpMk)
===============
Our same hopes from 2017-2020 rise again!

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 09, 2022 06:04 PM (eQVV8)

355 1. Can this be interpreted by Ivan as an existential threat?
2. Does this increase potential for direct hostilities with a NATO country?
3. Are we giving Ivan an off ramp?

Posted by: Questions to be asked when mucking around with a nuclear adversary at March 09, 2022 06:04 PM (OzNIz)

356 Sending Kamaltoe for a visit is how this administration (I hesitate to call it the "Biden" administration because, well, you know) tells its allies "FUCK YOU".

FJB
WASSOB

Posted by: jbspry at March 09, 2022 06:04 PM (ATe9j)

357
I'm so sick of WarPig Bret Baier.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at March 09, 2022 06:03 PM (KiBMU)

Bret Baier is a creepy, skeevy weirdo. I knew that much. Is he going all blood-horny now?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 09, 2022 06:05 PM (SKVme)

358 Not sure Zelensky is doing the right thing openly mocking the west in the news because we won't start WW3. I get his desperation but calling everyone a pussy won't win him favors.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 09, 2022 06:05 PM (LKTKP)

359 Hey hey hoe hoe
Veep Throat gotta blow

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 09, 2022 06:05 PM (lCui1)

360 This current US admin isn't able to understand this...but you are getting sense now how pathetic Russian conventional military might and strategy is - you don't threaten nukes if you have it all in a sock as far as your ground forces go. We saw this in the 80's and I think Reagan and his staff understood it as well.

At some point in the next 5 or 6 years, if we are lucky to have a real US foreign policy crew in DC, the Russians are going to regret mightily that they pulled their Komono down and showed folks that the whole Russian military is as busted as Patton told Eisenhower it was all those years ago.
Posted by: B

the thing is is, this was not news to anybody. they were barely doing ok in syria, why did they think this was going to be a good thing?

Posted by: confederatefifth at March 09, 2022 06:05 PM (K3ZCc)

361 I think this war could be ended very soon if kumala would just give putin a blow job.

Posted by: The gopE at March 09, 2022 06:06 PM (kF96U)

362 A Truth and Reconciliation Commission followed by public hangings of various State Department, CIA, NSA, and FBI personnel would go a long way to restoring confidence in us as a serious nation.
Posted by: G'rump928(c) at March 09, 2022 06:02 PM (yQpMk)

Newsletter

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 09, 2022 06:06 PM (lCui1)

363 Nazis on the left side
Commies on the right
Here I am stuck in the middle with youski

Posted by: Polskie Kola at March 09, 2022 06:06 PM (oWZwa)

364 What's happening is the reaping of what has been sown by the Intellectual Globalist Transnationalist class for the last 70 years.

They fucked around, now we're finding out.

Posted by: ballistic at March 09, 2022 06:06 PM (oXNqT)

365 Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)

Secretary of Transportation as compensation to the Gay Kiev Community for all those new Ukrainian women war brides.

I'd allow it.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 09, 2022 06:06 PM (u82oZ)

366 Right now even without Russia having in it's possession proof that the US was researching/stockpiling bio/chemo weapons of war on Russias border just from the Covid epidemic the world could call us to account for our having infected the rest of the world with this virus and then foisted off a deadly injurious and ineffective vaccine.

There's plenty of evidence that could be shown that it might not have been China that released the covid virus. At best it might have been a collusion of the two for whatever reason. I'm sure that China could show that they only were a supplier of a place to do the research and did not share the decision to release it.

And even if it wasn't released on purpose we still share a majority of the blame for it's existence (surprised that isn't brought up) and the sloppiness that caused it's release.

Posted by: jakee308 at March 09, 2022 06:06 PM (9RkRx)

367 Darth Vader in Cloud City: "I have altered the bargain. Pray I don't alter it any further."

Veep Throat in Poland: "Our position is extremely flexible!"

And this, my friends, is why we can't have nice things.

Posted by: itzWicks at March 09, 2022 06:06 PM (0CuV9)

368
Our entire foreign policy and military leadership is a cancer.

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Observing US foreign policy over the last 20 years is surreal. It's like a manic-depressive sixteen year old boy on crack, with a knife, in the middle of a shopping mall.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 09, 2022 06:07 PM (SKVme)

369 358.Surely someone in Ukraine told him that the US president can't just waive a wand when you're attacked and say " poof you're in NATO".

Posted by: CN at March 09, 2022 06:07 PM (ONvIw)

370 Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 09, 2022 05:59 PM (II3Gr)

I have laughed until I cried, literally. Not often but it is a bit disturbing.

Posted by: Javems at March 09, 2022 06:07 PM (AmoqO)

371 Bret needs to lose about 100 pounds. I don't watch him on TV, because I can't stand his act, but I saw him play a little in the Pebble Beach pro-am tournament. Wowza, he's been hanging out at the Stacy Abrams feeding trough.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at March 09, 2022 06:07 PM (eQVV8)

372 Getting a good thunderstorm right now. Second one today.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at March 09, 2022 06:07 PM (OssQ4)

373 334 Oh hell. I actually forgot that Turkey was part of NATO now.

If anyone were gonna do a full on Leeroy Jenkins to kick off WWIII....

Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 09, 2022 06:01 PM (6FeV1)

+++
LOL. I am laughing through tears of panic.

Posted by: washrivergal at March 09, 2022 06:07 PM (0W3z4)

374 217 "President Biden said very clearly that the decision on Ukraine's accession to NATO is the decision of the Ukrainian people only, this is a sovereign and independent Ukrainian state," he said. "And it depends on Ukraine and NATO members."

In a call which Zelenskiy said lasted 1-1/2 hours, Ukraine's president also told Biden that he had "clear proposals to unblock the peace process"

Posted by: runner at March 09, 2022 05:47 PM (SjcEJ)

One hour and twenty-five minutes of the call was Brandon telling Polack jokes he learned in 6th Grade.

Posted by: Gref at March 09, 2022 06:07 PM (AMIL/)

375 Play "The Pina Colada" song on ukulele.
Posted by: naturalfake

Your pointless music trivia for the day: the actual title of that song is "Escape."

Posted by: probably not Rupert Holmes at March 09, 2022 06:07 PM (P1f+c)

376 I thought Vlad was better than this. Now to hope that he won't break the nuclear threshold because his "special military operation" has gone sideways.
==
He made a mistake, he trusted his maintenance records.
Its muddy. Military trucks have a central tire inflation system which allows the driver to deflate the tires which makes them work better in mud. However if have to keep cycling those tires and also to keep them out of the sun because the special rubber degrades. Lots of his trucks got stuck in the mud, the tires side walls all split. That's why the remainders are all parked on the roads.
In failed systems, information doesn't make its way to the top and that causes bad decision making.

Posted by: CTIS at March 09, 2022 06:07 PM (M0QqG)

377 >>The sad thing is even if Trump or someone like DeSantis wins 2024, how can the rest of the world trust that the Deep State won't undo and sabotage all their deals?

I think it's a bit more complicated. There are very few foreign allies I trust. Ironically, Poland is one.

Our deep state bureaucracy isn't that much worse if at all that some of our so called allies who have been stabbing us in the back for years and hated Trump. Look how NATO and the EU swooned when Biden got back in. They didn't care that he was a corrupt dunce, he was one of them and wouldn't rock the boat.

Trump was actually a lot more popular overseas than our garbage media would have us believe. There are millions of normal people like us all over the world who are equally sick of their corrupt governments running the world into the ground.

One of my favorite parts of Trump's foreign policy was that it didn't rely on massive world kumbaya moments to respond to every single thing going on in the world. Trump made it know that he cared about America's interest and he didn't give a wet fart about anyone else's plans and he would do whatever it took to defend America and her interests. It worked great.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 09, 2022 06:07 PM (ZLI7S)

378 Kamalaladingdong's briefing:

1. use a pillow for your knees
2. Work the shaft
3. Don't ignore the balls

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 09, 2022 06:08 PM (LKTKP)

379 Trump or DeSantis may or may not save us in 2024 but anything else is worse so would rather have either of them.

Posted by: Skip at March 09, 2022 06:08 PM (2JoB8)

380 And as usual, every noodle-armed soft-bellied faggot that is in zero danger of having to go buy his own groceries, let alone go pick up a rifle in Ukraine is on the internet and television jacking his warcock for all to see.

Posted by: ballistic at March 09, 2022 06:08 PM (oXNqT)

381 I'm fairly certain Poland has been run over more times than almost any European country. My guess is they don't want to be steamrolled by Russia a third time, and were counting on the U.S.

*whispers* We're not that country anymore.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 09, 2022 06:08 PM (bkUtD)

382
Yup. That's why I said yesterday that I don't think Trump 2024 would save us.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 09, 2022 05:59 PM (XvPQV)

Trump '24 can reinstate America First policies, domestically. Our foreign policy influence is gone. For years to come.

Posted by: t_bodie - Lurker. Unless you are reading this. at March 09, 2022 06:08 PM (6jpby)

383 I thought Vlad was better than this. Now to hope that he won't break the nuclear threshold because his "special military operation" has gone sideways.

Posted by: Beltway Elite at March 09, 2022 05:56 PM (BPhfN)

I am more worried that he is holding back a reserve because he is trying to sucker us into attacking him, or sending in troops to support Ukraine.
That is a chess move.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 09, 2022 06:08 PM (xhaym)

384 Oh, fercrissakes, go ahead and do it.

Play "The Pina Colada" song on ukulele.

Get it out of your system.
Posted by: naturalfake at March 09, 2022 06:03 PM (OMayC)

You assume that it is in my system in the first place. You assume incorrectly.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 09, 2022 06:08 PM (II3Gr)

385 71 Now, today there are several really smart Pols, but the number of functionally illiterate is still a large number.
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You mean much like the USA, particularly the large cities!

Posted by: Ciampino at March 09, 2022 06:08 PM (qfLjt)

386 Not sure Zelensky is doing the right thing openly mocking the west in the news because we won't start WW3. I get his desperation but calling everyone a pussy won't win him favors.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 09, 2022 06:05 PM (LKTKP)
***********
He's channeling his inner Trump.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 09, 2022 06:08 PM (NpAcC)

387 I think this war could be ended very soon if kumala would just give putin a blow job.

I'm betting Vlad's standards are higher than Willie Brown's.

Posted by: Oddbob at March 09, 2022 06:08 PM (nfrXX)

388 Skip

Didja get to see your Dad ?

Posted by: JT at March 09, 2022 06:08 PM (arJlL)

389 Sending Kamala is a neon flashing sign that we don't really give a fuck about Poland, NATO or Ukraine.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at March 09, 2022 06:09 PM (HmZuC)

390 confederatefifth

Have we seen the best in Syria moved to the Ukraine front?

They get a lot of training in Syria. Ground crew and parts can be on a fast merchant ship to Sevastopol. Fly the planes to the Caucuses, then to the Crimea.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 09, 2022 06:09 PM (u82oZ)

391 So how much did Hunter get paid for setting up bioweapons labs in Poland?

And tell me Fauci helped.

Posted by: torabora at March 09, 2022 06:09 PM (76KdS)

392 Zelensky believes the press " the man who united the world" . Eventually the world will discover a lot of deception

Posted by: CN at March 09, 2022 06:09 PM (ONvIw)

393 I think this war could be ended very soon if kumala would just give putin a blow job.
==
Bitch pleez, I got a 22 yo gymnast on standby.

Posted by: Pooty Poot at March 09, 2022 06:09 PM (HKJ/x)

394 15 My guess is Poland didn't want to do any of that and this was a way to call Junta Joe's bluff. They would be fine with Poland getting hit as a causus belli. But, this way, the US is on the hook.

BTW, how are those bio-warfare labs doing now that Victoria Nuland admitted they are there?
Posted by: WiNO at March 09, 2022 05:17 PM (EpDzw)

Can we send Vic Nuland and her former employers over there to secure them? She, Dick Cheney and Hillary could at least serve as cannon fodder. Ukrainian kids might avoid injury and we wouldn't have to see any of those odious toads again.

Posted by: Eric Schmidt at March 09, 2022 06:09 PM (fpzDt)

395 I wouldn't want Kamala anywhere my willy.

* shudder *

Posted by: fd at March 09, 2022 06:10 PM (vrz2I)

396 Yup. That's why I said yesterday that I don't think Trump 2024 would save us.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, RIP Oregon Muse at March 09, 2022 05:59 PM (XvPQV)
Never happenen, but first step would be total house cleaning of State Dept, everyone fired.

Posted by: A dude in MI at March 09, 2022 06:10 PM (/6GbT)

397 340 Hiya Moki !
Posted by: JT at March 09, 2022 06:02 PM (arJlL)

Hiya JT!! How are you doing?

Posted by: Moki at March 09, 2022 06:10 PM (JrN/x)

398 think you got it backward. Blinked tried to make the Poles the fall guy first. Poland responded, you want these Migs in Ukraine, YOU put them there.

*
This is correct.

The US was trying to get Poland to start WWIII.

Poland refused and told the US to do it if they wanted to. The US (above) said it "wasn't tenable '

Posted by: Moron Robbie - nothing's built, nothing's back, nothing's better at March 09, 2022 06:10 PM (lIk+J)

399 >>>Sending Kamala is a neon flashing sign that we don't really give a fuck about Poland, NATO or Ukraine.
Posted by: Citizen Cake

I thought the same thing. Kamala is universally hated. It's like sending Hunter over there to ease tensions.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 09, 2022 06:10 PM (bkUtD)

400 I'm fairly certain Poland has been run over more times than almost any European country. My guess is they don't want to be steamrolled by Russia a third time, and were counting on the U.S.

*whispers* We're not that country anymore.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp

My college European History Prof called it a GREAT place for a WAR ! Completely FLAT !

Posted by: JT at March 09, 2022 06:10 PM (arJlL)

401 Republicans win the House
Take the Senate

Elect Trump as Speaker
Impeach biden and kamala

President Trump

Posted by: nurse ratched at March 09, 2022 06:10 PM (W2Pud)

402 @348

>>The entire Russia/Mueller bullshit would have been canned in a day had Trump simply asked Sessions to resign when he recused himself. Badly mishandled on almost every level.

Though the Democrats deserve a large share of opprobrium, Trump main foes was the GOPe.

Trump was told in no uncertain terms that if he fired Sessions, they would not confirm a successor and he would be impeached.

The only reason Barr was brought on was because the Mueller Probe was hurting GOP election prospects and he was to end it.

It was also a bonus that Barr was a f**king POS snake and rat-f**ked Trump at every turn.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 09, 2022 06:11 PM (fqhF3)

403 Hiya JT!! How are you doing?
Posted by: Moki

Mahvelous !

Posted by: JT at March 09, 2022 06:11 PM (arJlL)

404 Eric Schmidt

War Cock up. Seal that hole in the containment barrier. You can do it.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 09, 2022 06:11 PM (u82oZ)

405 >>>Sending Kamala is a neon flashing sign that we don't really give a fuck about Poland, NATO or Ukraine.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at March 09, 2022 06:09 PM (HmZuC)

I'm pretty sure they're sending her because Joey can't survive the trips over there.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at March 09, 2022 06:11 PM (QYPq3)

406 73 NOW - Pelosi: "With this president, this Joe Biden, this president with justice, environmental justice, economic justice, so much has been accomplished."

You keep on using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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I think it is being misreported - it is JUST US.

Posted by: Ciampino at March 09, 2022 06:12 PM (qfLjt)

407 And? You have to meet certain criteria to join Nato and be voted in, NONE of that was met. NO invitation was ever extended to Ukraine to join Nato, and for good reason, no matter what that moron biden babbled

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 09, 2022 05:49 PM (Irn0L)

Yup, as was explained to me by somebody way smarter than me, that no way was Ukraine ever going to be allowed to be in NATO. The main reason is the west's leaders (10% for the big guy) were using the ukraine as their own personal piggy bank in ways that are forbidden if it was a NATO country. Yeah biden can babble all he wants, but no formal invitation was offered, and it never would be.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at March 09, 2022 06:12 PM (VwHCD)

408 What's the joke.. most common German occupation? Poland

Posted by: A dude in MI at March 09, 2022 06:12 PM (/6GbT)

409 "Republicans win the House
Take the Senate
Elect Trump as Speaker
Impeach biden and kamala
President Trump"

Sound like a plan. A wildly impossible plan.

Posted by: I'm Peter Graves at March 09, 2022 06:12 PM (vrz2I)

410 OTOH,
The first place for the nukes to fall would be DC, NYC, SF,....

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at March 09, 2022 06:12 PM (sNQ/T)

411 Have we seen the best in Syria moved to the Ukraine front?

They get a lot of training in Syria. Ground crew and parts can be on a fast merchant ship to Sevastopol. Fly the planes to the Caucuses, then to the Crimea.
Posted by: N

they have used syria as something of a training ground for their best officers, but they have not had enough guys go through and even in syria they have not had enough smart bombs and similar .

between syria and chechnya and crimea you would think they would have some good experience .

Posted by: confederatefifth at March 09, 2022 06:12 PM (K3ZCc)

412 In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose)

Everyone with a brain knows Biden is not in charge. No one wants him around.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 09, 2022 06:12 PM (u82oZ)

413 New conspiracy theory:

Marxist across the globe know that they are now totally exposed and will start losing elections to conservatives and nationalists everywhere.

Starting WW3 is a gambit to avoid further elections and if they can't, it's scorched earth policy so they can just act like victims in the fallout.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 09, 2022 06:12 PM (LKTKP)

414 >>>BTW, how are those bio-warfare labs doing now that Victoria Nuland admitted they are there?

The spin now is that yes, there are biolabs there, but they're not AMERICAN biolabs. See, the Ukrainians built a bunch of biolabs for kicks apparently.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at March 09, 2022 06:13 PM (HmZuC)

415 The post WWII period has been dominated by foreign alliance foreign policy save for 4 years under Trump. N

Which has worked better?

Posted by: JackStraw at March 09, 2022 06:13 PM (ZLI7S)

416 confederatefifth

Grozny gave the tube guys experience, but they seem restrained today.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 09, 2022 06:14 PM (u82oZ)

417 #376
Now transfer the ineptitude from the logistics train to the nuclear weapons people. I wouldn't be surprised if one doesn't go kapow in shipping and handling.

Posted by: torabora at March 09, 2022 06:14 PM (76KdS)

418 This current US admin isn't able to understand this...but you are getting sense now how pathetic Russian conventional military might and strategy is - you don't threaten nukes if you have it all in a sock as far as your ground forces go. We saw this in the 80's and I think Reagan and his staff understood it as well.

At some point in the next 5 or 6 years, if we are lucky to have a real US foreign policy crew in DC, the Russians are going to regret mightily that they pulled their Komono down and showed folks that the whole Russian military is as busted as Patton told Eisenhower it was all those years ago.

Posted by: Boswell at March 09, 2022 06:01 PM

After the Soviet Union collapsed and we were able to send military people into former Warsaw Pact Countries we found out that they were literally a paper tiger. Tens of thousands of tanks and IFV's on paper but only a fraction of them were capable of being deployed for combat. Also stores of ammunition, fuel and food were woefully inadequate for any sustained combat ops. And less than 10% of their military personnel were adequately trained,, the rest were 1 year conscripts with no real training.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at March 09, 2022 06:14 PM (bVYXr)

419 sending Hunter over there to ease tensions
****
Love this!
No Yellow!

Posted by: Hunter at March 09, 2022 06:15 PM (J/gYQ)

420 AlaBAMA

No worry Leftists. Pity will stay my hand.
*It's a pity I am out of bullets*

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 09, 2022 06:15 PM (u82oZ)

421 Grozny gave the tube guys experience, but they seem restrained today.
Posted by: N

this is true. for some reasn they have been restrained in their urban renewal designs

Posted by: confederatefifth at March 09, 2022 06:15 PM (K3ZCc)

422 178 Every drunkard sleeping on a sidewalk in Warsaw could get far inside The Junta's OODA Loop within five minutes.
Posted by: Gref at March 09, 2022 05:41 PM (AMIL/)
.
So true, and so hilarious.
.
.
How do you know it has gone sideways? I don't know what the initial plan was. I can also offer counter explanations for why it is working close to plan. But, that would be just as much guessing as the "Putin has Failed!" people.
.
Posted by: WiNO at March 09, 2022 05:58 PM (EpDzw)
.
The Russian's thought they'd take Kiev in three days. They thought they'd blitzkrieg their way across the country and destroy the Ukrainian military. Instead, their convoys are bogged down, their troops lack food and fuel and ammunition, and the Ukrainians are still fighting. Believe me, this is a conventional disaster for the Russian military, who don't have many more troops to send. The sanctions and subsequent crashing of the Russian economy threaten Putin's survival as leader, which is why I'm worried he might use nukes.
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If he keeps it on the conventional level, even if he eventually takes over Ukraine, this is a strategic defeat.

Posted by: Beltway Elite at March 09, 2022 06:15 PM (BPhfN)

423 The spin now is that yes, there are biolabs there, but they're not AMERICAN biolabs. See, the Ukrainians built a bunch of biolabs for kicks apparently.
Posted by: Citizen Cake

If so, *should* we be defending a country that does biowarfare research?

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at March 09, 2022 06:15 PM (lCui1)

424 My guess is they don't want to be steamrolled by Russia a third time, and were counting on the U.S.
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If I read it right the 82nd Airborne and the 3rd Infantry Mechanized has been there from the beginning.

Posted by: dartist at March 09, 2022 06:15 PM (+ya+t)

425 >>Bret Baier is a creepy, skeevy weirdo. I knew that much. Is he going all blood-horny now?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

I bet he smells like a pair of old shoes too. He's a degusting looking ogre.

Posted by: Capital Eff at March 09, 2022 06:15 PM (GYllL)

426 The spin now is that yes, there are biolabs there, but they're not AMERICAN biolabs. See, the Ukrainians built a bunch of biolabs for kicks apparently.
==
See discussion above about doing things in Ukraine for the 10% that you can't do if Ukraine were in NATO.

SPELLING IT OUT FOR YOU

Posted by: Pooty Poot at March 09, 2022 06:15 PM (M0QqG)

427 blaster have you actually toured Bletchley Park? On the list for me. Disappointed if they don't provide the basic facts, which include that key advances against Enigma were Polish contributions (and some French, while the Poles were in exile there).

Posted by: rhomboid at March 09, 2022 06:15 PM (OTzUX)

428 Kamala knoweth a lottamus about Missiles.

Posted by: Caliban at March 09, 2022 06:15 PM (HgGBT)

429 414 rofl

Posted by: CN at March 09, 2022 06:15 PM (ONvIw)

430 present

Posted by: DB at March 09, 2022 06:15 PM (geLO8)

431

Kamala Harris: The Ultimate Polish Joke

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 09, 2022 06:16 PM (s2VJv)

432 disgusting

Posted by: Capital Eff at March 09, 2022 06:16 PM (GYllL)

433 @417

>>Now transfer the ineptitude from the logistics train to the nuclear weapons people. I wouldn't be surprised if one doesn't go kapow in shipping and handling.

The West is actively trying to murder it's own people, if something like that were to happen, I wouldn't blame ineptitude..

It's all part of the plan.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 09, 2022 06:16 PM (fqhF3)

434 I think part of the Jets deal was the Polish Migs to be bought and replaced by F-16s.

Biden, like Clinton, is all for taking your weapons but replacing them not so much.

Posted by: Braenyard at March 09, 2022 06:16 PM (SHylA)

435 Not incompetent, evil. They mean to do what they're doing. It's deliberate.

Posted by: Eromero at March 09, 2022 06:16 PM (1khhj)

436 JT yes, was going to update on Cafe, he is holding his own but they still have no idea why his oxygen level is way down.

Posted by: Skip at March 09, 2022 06:17 PM (2JoB8)

437 The West is actively trying to murder it's own people, if something like that were to happen, I wouldn't blame ineptitude..

It's all part of the plan.
Posted by: T

in fairness, the vaxx did not work so they need something else

Posted by: confederatefifth at March 09, 2022 06:17 PM (K3ZCc)

438 sending Hunter over there to ease tensions
****

One big ass crack pipe, America.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 09, 2022 06:17 PM (s2VJv)

439 #410
If Vlad is smart he doesn't nuke DC, or cobalt blue anything.

He needs them to bayonet the wounded.

Posted by: torabora at March 09, 2022 06:17 PM (76KdS)

440 SPRINGFIELD ARMORY HELLCAT PRO OPTICS READY 9MM; $555 shipped with code p365; https://bit.ly/3sWbSaW

Posted by: bonhomme at March 09, 2022 06:18 PM (NahKu)

441 And I think that's exactly the reason Blinken refused to be part of Poland's transfer scheme -- because he wanted the ability to walk away from the scheme and claim that Poland's transfer severed the US's obligation to come to their aid.

Yep.

Posted by: mrp at March 09, 2022 06:18 PM (6eRlp)

442 US: Go on, Poland. Punch that guy in the face!!

Poland: You guys are gonna back me up, right?

US:

Poland: Guys?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 09, 2022 06:18 PM (LKTKP)

443 who don't have many more troops to send. The sanctions and subsequent crashing of the Russian economy threaten Putin's survival as leader, which is why I'm worried he might use nukes.
.
If he keeps it on the conventional level, even if he eventually takes over Ukraine, this is a strategic defeat.
==
make no mistake he is negotiating for his life now, and he knows it. Ukraine could get fucking reparations from him, in secret, if they surrendered the disputed regions and agreed to never join Nato.

Posted by: Pooty Poot's very bad day at March 09, 2022 06:18 PM (M0QqG)

444 411 Have we seen the best in Syria moved to the Ukraine front?

They get a lot of training in Syria. Ground crew and parts can be on a fast merchant ship to Sevastopol. Fly the planes to the Caucuses, then to the Crimea.
Posted by: N

they have used syria as something of a training ground for their best officers, but they have not had enough guys go through and even in syria they have not had enough smart bombs and similar .

between syria and chechnya and crimea you would think they would have some good experience .
Posted by: confederatefifth at March 09, 2022 06:12 PM (K3ZCc)

How many career non-coms are in the Russian Army? And how many of them can tell an AK from an RPG? This may be one of the bigger problems with the Russian conscript Army.

Posted by: Gref at March 09, 2022 06:18 PM (AMIL/)

445 >Pelosi: "With this president, this Joe Biden, this president with justice, environmental justice, economic justice, so much has been accomplished."

she's mad
she's absolutely gone mad

Posted by: DB at March 09, 2022 06:18 PM (geLO8)

446 442 US: Go on, Poland. Punch that guy in the face!!

Poland: You guys are gonna back me up, right?

US: Anakin meme face

Poland: Guys?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 09, 2022 06:18 PM (LKTKP)

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at March 09, 2022 06:19 PM (II3Gr)

447 JT yes, was going to update on Cafe, he is holding his own but they still have no idea why his oxygen level is way down.
Posted by: Skip

Continued prayers.....

Posted by: JT at March 09, 2022 06:19 PM (arJlL)

448 @437

>>in fairness, the vaxx did not work so they need something else

Commando Roll Out: Plandemic.

Commando Roll In: Global Therom Nuclear War.

Or alternatively:

FUCK YOU JOSHUA!!!!

Posted by: Thomas Bender at March 09, 2022 06:19 PM (fqhF3)

449 nood

Posted by: bonhomme at March 09, 2022 06:19 PM (NahKu)

450 271 in fairness, until restaurants change the menu spelling I am going with kiev.

i'm going to avoid the rush and start calling it "freedom chicken".

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at March 09, 2022 06:19 PM (v3pYe)

451 these geriatric mush-brained assholes are going to get us killed

Posted by: DB at March 09, 2022 06:19 PM (geLO8)

452 "With this president, this Joe Biden"

Joe Biden G1

Posted by: I'm Peter Graves at March 09, 2022 06:19 PM (vrz2I)

453 Can't say I know what the exact plan was, unlike some, but you know the old saying about plans and contact with the enemy.

But I do know in May '45 their combat power and experience was massive, not the least bit exhausted or exaggerated, though I don't know why the silliness about them being a shell at the time persists, or what the appeal is.

And any result that leaves Ukraine as essentially finlandized is a strategic victory for Russia. It's a victory of a technical sort, since the entire framework is a defensive one, but still, objective would have been secured. Recognition of sovereignty over Crimea and D and L would be gravy, de facto will do.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 09, 2022 06:20 PM (OTzUX)

454 445 >Pelosi: "With this president, this Joe Biden, this president with justice, environmental justice, economic justice, so much has been accomplished."

she's mad
she's absolutely gone mad
Posted by: DB at March 09, 2022 06:18 PM (geLO

Biden for sure has some form of dementia but this old battle axe for sure has got all kinds tar dive dyskinesia on top of being a fucking falling down drunkard.

And evil.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at March 09, 2022 06:20 PM (s2VJv)

455 Does anyone have a link to where the Russians published their list of strategic objectives and timetable? Everyone seems to have this info but me and I am starting to feel left out.

Posted by: The guy that moves pianos for a living at March 09, 2022 06:21 PM (ZAQR9)

456 Did you hear the one about the Polish guy that walked into a bar with a hand full of US promises and said, '"Look what I almost stepped in!" Wait, I told it wrong.

Posted by: Kamala Harris - Diplomat Superstar at March 09, 2022 06:21 PM (0EAC1)

457 CZIPs

Starring Ezrzrikz Ezsztrzrazdra
Posted by: Warai-otoko at March 09, 2022 05:59 PM (6FeV1)

ok, I laughed

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 09, 2022 06:21 PM (M+Lyo)

458 How many career non-coms are in the Russian Army? And how many of them can tell an AK from an RPG? This may be one of the bigger problems with the Russian conscript Army.
Posted by: Gref at March 09,
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Do they have many country boys with 22s that they use to fill the pot?

Posted by: Braenyard at March 09, 2022 06:22 PM (SHylA)

459 Gref

The officers were supposed to be reliable, with KGB help. But they do not believe, and are careerist. NCOs being unhappy start revolutions.

Now mirror that on the majority of our own forces.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 09, 2022 06:22 PM (u82oZ)

460 she's absolutely gone mad

You spelled drunk wrong.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at March 09, 2022 06:22 PM (nxdel)

461 The guy that moves pianos for a living

You are smarter than all 17 Intelligence agencies, for sure. The good question's answer is No.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 09, 2022 06:23 PM (u82oZ)

462 If this is the result of the adults being in charge, can we give the kids another crack at it?

Posted by: Duke Lowell, The Mad Hater at March 09, 2022 06:23 PM (cfyag)

463 Ukrainians built bio-warfare labs? I thought they were supposed to be meth-labs.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at March 09, 2022 06:24 PM (gmo/4)

464 There are many cold war types sitting in the Pentagon still fighting the Soviet Union and refusing to look at today's political landscape. Soviet Union collapsed 30 years ago. And yet they are very keen on thinking in same terms, using the same language, fighting the old phantom of communism. When our real concern is China. If they really want to fight commies - there they are. With their 5 year plans and world domination.

Posted by: runner at March 09, 2022 06:24 PM (V13WU)

465 {{{Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB }}}

Snow tonight. And I see normally stoic Kansans panicking. Surreal.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 09, 2022 06:24 PM (u82oZ)

466
between syria and chechnya and crimea you would think they would have some good experience .
Posted by: confederatefifth at March 09, 2022 06:12 PM (K3ZCc)

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In none did they fight an actual army. Most forces in Chechnya were from the Interior Ministry.

Posted by: Undocumented at March 09, 2022 06:25 PM (uz/Pv)

467 runner

China owns our leaders. And they did not spend a lot of money. Our guys sold out for cheap.

Not the rank and file, except in the CIA and FBI.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 09, 2022 06:26 PM (u82oZ)

468 Nood.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 09, 2022 06:27 PM (u82oZ)

469 China owns our leaders. And they did not spend a lot of money. Our guys sold out for cheap.

Not the rank and file, except in the CIA and FBI.
Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 09, 2022 06:26 PM (u82oZ)

Are you saying that crippling economic sanctions on China are out, and that neither Google nor Disney nor Visa/MC will boycott them ? I am dissapoint.

Posted by: runner at March 09, 2022 06:28 PM (V13WU)

470 runner

I am. Get used to disappointment.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at March 09, 2022 06:30 PM (u82oZ)

471 Posted by: Pooty Poot at March 09, 2022 06:09 PM (HKJ/x)

Interesting nic. I got banned from Russia Today because I called Putin that in a comment. I didn't mean it in a mean way it just rhymed.

So I email them and ask why and that's what they told me. I didn't bother to tell them that I didn't mean it in a bad way.

Still haven't got banned from Twitter. But I'm not trying very hard.

Posted by: jakee308 at March 09, 2022 06:34 PM (9RkRx)

472 From what I understand, the sitcking point is Poland wants Ukrainian pilots to fly missions out of Ramstein, not just transfer planes to be flown out of Ukrainian bases. That would pretty much invite an attack on the Ramstein, which puts us into direct conflict with the Russians.

I don't understand why the Poles would want this, but it would be a very, very bad idea to have Ukrainian aircraft attacking Russians from US air bases in Germany.
Posted by: Ace's liver at March 09, 2022 05:50 PM (wGeit)

No.

Poland doesn't want a direct flight from Poland to Ukrainian AFBs to reinforce the Ukranian AF because that is a direct hostile act. They want that to come from the US Air base instead, so that if the Russians retailate it doesn't hit them.

In no case were missions to be flown to attack Russian forces from Polish bases or Ramstein. That would be an act of war right there.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 09, 2022 06:37 PM (eoQWY)

473 There are many cold war types sitting in the Pentagon still fighting the Soviet Union and refusing to look at today's political landscape. Soviet Union collapsed 30 years ago. And yet they are very keen on thinking in same terms, using the same language, fighting the old phantom of communism. When our real concern is China. If they really want to fight commies - there they are. With their 5 year plans and world domination.
Posted by: runner at March 09, 2022 06:24 PM (V13WU)

I disagree. The are pretending to be the old Cold Warriors to gain our support - I was one, at least as best you can be as a civilian. They aren't following the rules of the cold war, they are faking it from Hollywood movies.

Posted by: Oldcat at March 09, 2022 06:39 PM (eoQWY)

474 State Dept doesn't want to fight commies.
State Dept is Commie.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at March 09, 2022 06:43 PM (jTmQV)

475 Hey you guys, let's just let Poland handle it. I'm sure everything will be fine.

Posted by: The EU and US at March 09, 2022 07:01 PM (AD14M)

476 266 they would have to use a different name this time
Posted by: confederatefifth

The Polka Pact?
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The Polka Dot(s) ?

Posted by: Ciampino at March 09, 2022 07:02 PM (qfLjt)

477 Occam's Razor says you are 100% dead-on with the reason for the flip-flop.

Posted by: Lieutenant Duh at March 09, 2022 07:07 PM (asG9z)

478 The analysis rings right to me.

Posted by: Honkeysuckapigheadedjiveturkeyfool at March 09, 2022 07:08 PM (oasF3)

479 294 Has Kamala ever blown a Pole?
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Is that a technique when Pole dancing?

Posted by: Ciampino at March 09, 2022 07:09 PM (qfLjt)

480 Now that's a hole NOOD.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at March 09, 2022 07:18 PM (+ldAm)

481 Have I missed any "Ukrainian concern" updates from Ace? The last I saw was 4 out of 10, has it gone up? Ukrainian Jews are fleeing en masse, very afraid of Putin'sChechen muslim mercenaries and his ultra rightwing eastern Ukrainian militias.

Posted by: Kurt at March 09, 2022 07:18 PM (Gg+lu)

482 341 A Truth and Reconciliation Commission followed by public hangings
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A TARC would preclude hangings as the idea of a TARC is to air all the dirty linen and then be forgiven.

Posted by: Ciampino at March 09, 2022 07:22 PM (qfLjt)

483 Also possibly Biden feels that the planes are not necessary at this point. Russia's economy is in complete free fall and it's military isn't doing much better. It looks to me thst maybe/probably that air muscle isn't completely required st this point
And I am not really sure how effective 29 Migs would actually be against Russia. They require serviceable airfields. I don't think many are left in Ukraine

Posted by: Kurt at March 09, 2022 07:43 PM (Gg+lu)

484 Fake Sec. Blinken says it was completely risk-free for Poland to send MIGS to Ukraine--but its SUPER-DANGEROUS for the US to send those same MIGS!

Poland's offer wasn't serious. It was a sarcastic slap-back at Blinken's generous offer to get Polish pilots killed. That's why Poland didn't "Consult".

But the Junta and the Uni-Party War Press spent all day pretending it was a serious offer rather than acknowledging the insult. What a farce.

BTW, Ukraine has plenty of planes already. They can't fly because of Russian Air Defense Systems. Those systems must be very good because Obama had Russia supply them to his Ayatollah for his nuke factories.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 09, 2022 08:26 PM (Ndje9)

485 Those Mig-29s can`t go to Ukraine,...Blinken promised them to Iran if they want them.

Posted by: bombolino at March 09, 2022 09:51 PM (A5d7R)

486 Lester Holt: You've not been to the border.

Kamala: Well, I've never been to Europe either... What's your point?

Holt: Poland is in Europe...

Kamala: Well, I've never been to Kazakhstan either... what's your point?

Posted by: red speck at March 09, 2022 10:17 PM (gS3OW)

487 I agree with Ace. Good analysis.

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDie at March 10, 2022 10:12 AM (Z4oqp)

488 If Poland were to fly the jets to Ukraine, and Putin responded with war on Poland, I don't think the rest of NATO would be obligated. I think Poland would have started it.

Of course Poland is not going to do that. Neither is any other European member of NATO if they know what's good for them.

This has happened before. When Russia attacked Georgia, Turkey would neither intervene militarily nor allow us to come in through Turkey's waterway.

I see nothing wrong with Russia insisting on a "Monroe doctrine" within the former Soviet Union.

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