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Patriot Games: The Incompetent, Immoral Overclass Continues Its Lunatic Bullying Of the Rest of the Country

Putin put his nuclear forces on highest alert. Toughboi Adam Kingzinger goes full Gen. Jack T. Ripper and says we should just call his bluff, quoting eminent nuclear war strategist Louise Mensch:

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If you don't know who Louise Mensch is, she is a pampered slattern who briefly had her own seat in Parliament because she had some name recognition (she was a chicklit "author") and her husband was rich. She had to resign it when it was discovered she was a drug abuser. She then came to America and began trafficking in the most unhinged and delusional of NeverTrump RussiaGate conspiracy theories. She claimed she had a SCOOP that Trump was already impeached as early as 2017 -- as soon as he was elected -- for being a Russian asset, and was informed of this by the "Marshal of the Supreme Court."

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By the way, there is no "Marshal of the Supreme Court." The position doesn't exist. The post was simply hallucinated by this noisome self-admitted tweaker.

I guess her "sources" didn't bother to tell her that.

Here's what Wikipedia has to say about Mensch -- and you know that Wikipedia is usually very friendly towards left-leaning people:

Mensch and Heat Street have since courted controversy by promoting unverified claims, hoaxes, and conspiracy theories about the Trump administration and its ties to the Russian Federation.

Among other allegations she has posted online, Mensch claimed that she had obtained evidence that Russian president Vladimir Putin had American conservative commentator Andrew Breitbart, the founder of Breitbart News who died of a heart attack in 2012, murdered so his job would go to his deputy, Steve Bannon.

She has stated that the 2017 Istanbul nightclub shooting, which was perpetrated by Abdulkadir Masharipov on behalf of the terrorist organization Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, was a Russian false flag operation with Russia posing as ISIL.

She has stated that "Bannon and his team" were behind the 2017 Jewish Community Center bomb threats that were committed by two people, American Juan M. Thompson and Israeli-American Michael David Kadar, with no ties to Bannon.

She has claimed Russian intelligence planted inflammatory emails implicating former U.S. Senator and 2016 Democratic Party presidential candidate Hillary Clinton on disgraced former U.S. House member Anthony Weiner's computer.

Mensch has also, without evidence, accused numerous people, including Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg and venture capitalist Peter Thiel, of being Russian "shills", "moles" and "agents of influence".

Buzzfeed called Mensch an "anti--Russian influence crusader" and one of a number of "anti-Trump public figures [who] share unreliable information".

Zack Beauchamp, a reporter for Vox who has written at length about Mensch, has said she was the equivalent of an Alex Jones of the right: "I would say the closest analog would be Infowars", he said.

But Adam Kinzinger sees her as a kindred spirit in #TheResistance, against both Trump and Putin.

The two show a growing closesness on Twitter. Wartime brings people together, you know.

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Speaking of wartime, Zelensky is calling on all people who support Ukraine's freedom -- all people, no matter their age, sex, or weight -- to come to Ukraine to fight:

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Make sure you pass that on to all of the Keyboard Kommandoes shrieking that you're not TWEETING HARD ENOUGH about how much you support Ukraine. David Frum, Bill Kristol and all of the skinny femmes and/or disgusting fatbodies at The Bulwark, Jonah Goldberg, Steve Hayes, Meghan McCain, David French, Jennifer Rubin, AllahPundit, and all the rest of the gang will, I'm sure, want to know they will finally have the opportunity to fight in one of the many, many, many, many wars they are very passionate about, this time with no convenient excuses about why they can't personally attend.

So pass the good news on to them! I'm sure they'll be thrilled.

By the way, I'm actually very much against Putin and I'm not on board with the stronger arguments made for Putin, or against Ukraine.

However, I am very much committed, after about five years of the Neocon/Neoliberal Alliance deciding what beliefs the rest of us may have, and what the rest of us may say, that we will no longer allow ourselves to be bullied by a nasty, entitled fringe minority into coerced silence or coerced speech.

I do support Ukraine, but I don't particularly care all that much about it -- on a scale of 1 to 10, it's about a 4, and right now there are a lot of 7s, 8s, 9s, and 10s I'm much more concerned about -- and I will not be Shamed into putting up a Ukranian Flag on my Twitter profile because Meghan McCain has decided that this latest Groupthink Enforcement Effort is just So Totally Important You Guys.

We have been bullied about what we are permitted to say or believe about Trump, about Russiagate, about the election, about the January 6 "Insurrection," about BLM and George Floyd (they're all heroes and besides those businesses are insured), about covid, about masking, about vaccines, about myocarditis (it's a conspiracy theory oh wait now it's not a conspiracy theory, but it's a very minor risk you shouldn't be worried about), and on and on and on.

The same very small group of FUCKING AMORAL IDIOTS AND MENTALLY-ILL NEUROTICS AND CONTROL FREAK KARENS AND NEVERTRUMP PERVERTS has been telling the rest of us what we are allowed to think or say on every fucking issue of any public saliency for six fucking years and I am DONE with it.

And yes I would rather see Ukraine burn to the ground than for one second longer put up with this regime of endless bullying and thought control.

At some point, it must stop. IT MUST FUCKING STOP.

This Revolutionary Vanguard shrieks all day about authoritarianism and Putin while imposing authoritarianism and Putinism on their captive countrymen and then accuses us of "treason" and "supporting Putin" when we tell them to fuck off and leave us in peace for five minutes because we're free Americans and we own our own bodies and especially our own mouths and even more especially our own minds and that we do not take orders from them, because they are plainly not our superiors in any manner, in terms of position, education, morality, or intellect.

And yet they continue to bark orders.

This situation is no longer tolerable and will not be tolerated.

Amazing: Noted Respecter of Countries' Sovereignty Condoleeza Rice agrees that any invasion of a country is de facto a "war crime," presumably punishable, as war crimes are, by imprisonment or even hanging.

Even more amazingly, Jen Griffin, who is supposedly a "News" person, offers a stream of opinions for which she will face no sanction for, because they're the opinions of the neocon/neoliberal establishment.

One amazing opinion is that a former brigadier general's analysis of the war should be ignored because he's not a "military strategist." Jen Griffin, on the other hand, apparently is a military strategist, because she's a "Journalist" and "Journalists," as you know, are All-Purpose Experts Without Portfolio. They're just Omni-Geniuses who are instantly experts in any and all fields they ask a few questions about.

Remember, she's "spoken to people at the Pentagon" so she now knows all of the facts and she can "fact-check" everyone's speculations and opinions and is in fact so certain of these she feels comfortable labeling all opinions that diverge from those offered by her Pentagon buds "appeasement talk" offered by an "apologist for Putin."

Again, this is a "News" division person. Because she's a "News" division person, her opinions automatically become fact.

I find some of the vaccine takes and Putin takes to go too far, as some of you might know (and as some of you might find annoying).

What all of this has in common, of course, is that people have been lied to too often, too many times, about too many things, and are now in a mode of Rejectivism, where they dismiss out of hand the claims made by a Regime where lying has become a routine method of control over the population.

And simple, automatic Rejectivism is not an irrational response to a Regime that lies, or is completely 100% wrong, this often. If they lied only once in a while, or were wrong once in a while, I'd say automatic Rejectivism was an overreaction and a bad strategy, as it would usually result in the Rejectivist winding up on the wrong side of the truth.

But when the Regime is almost always lying or almost always wrong, just taking the opposite side without even thinking about it will put you on the right side of the truth 75%, 80% of the time.

Not bad for a simple, reflexive strategy.

Now, simple reflexive Rejectivism is still not the ideal strategy. The ideal strategy remains what it always is -- taking each claim on its own merits and evaluating it, without bias according to whoever said it.

But as far as rules of thumbs go -- at this point, assuming that the Regime is lying or incompetently stupid is as good a rule of thumb as any.

The Regime and its defenders -- the neocon/neoliberal alliance -- have lied to the public constantly for at least six years. Before that, they were catastrophically wrong about almost every major policy question for at least 20 years.

And now they bemoan the lack of trust by the public, and natter about an "information crisis," with "disinformation" (information not approved of by the Regime) competing with Regime-approved information.

Did they really think that years and years of lying, and years of incompetence and catastrophic failures, would have no consequences?

Do they really think that years of lying and incompetence and catastrophic failures should have no consequences?

This is a democracy -- are we not entitled to periodically offer our verdict on how The Ruling Class is ruling, and whether they should be allowed to continue, or be replaced?

Or is this not a democracy any more? Is the idea of a democracy "too dangerous" when that democracy begins contemplating sweeping The Ruling Class aside because of its constant lies and constant failures?

Posted by: Ace at 03:35 PM




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1 Content?

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at February 28, 2022 03:36 PM (QYPq3)

2 The main question worth asking: I know why Joe Biden would risk collapsing the global economy, maybe even life on Earth itself, for Ukraine.

But why the shit would anyone else?!

Posted by: trev006 at February 28, 2022 03:38 PM (Eqkqm)

3 not sponge

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 28, 2022 03:38 PM (LvTSG)

4 By the way, there is no "Marshal of the Supreme Court." The position doesn't exist

Ace, that's what they want you to think.

Posted by: Conspiracies R Us at February 28, 2022 03:39 PM (EughT)

5 Short-haired tv anchors correcting Admiral's takes lol.

Posted by: BacktoGA at February 28, 2022 03:40 PM (MPYWI)

6 By the way, there is no "Marshal of the Supreme Court." The position doesn't exist
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Trying to erase the black man again!

Posted by: Thurgood Marshal at February 28, 2022 03:40 PM (dscaa)

7 "Patriot Shames" might have been better...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (not a cop!0 at February 28, 2022 03:41 PM (DU+/6)

8 My concern for Ukraine is about the same as it would be for any other country being attacked, in that I am a human who feels human emotions and doesn't particularly care to see humans get hurt or killed.

That said, I might stop being human for a few minutes as it relates to Kinzinger.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 28, 2022 03:41 PM (KbCG3)

9 The press may not be battlefield experts, but they can run gas chambers and crematoriums, which is their planned career path.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 28, 2022 03:41 PM (5kI0z)

10 woah, this was a nice read to come to after that damn exam. i might have passed. I don't feel 100% either way. feels like i need to know EXACTLY what the cut line is...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at February 28, 2022 03:41 PM (8D42x)

11 Isn't griffin married to "someone at the pentagon"?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 28, 2022 03:42 PM (BoHLr)

12 All I'm thinking at this point is there's so much dirty laundry in the Ukraine the swamp is scared to fucking death Putin will get his hands on it.

Having Soros tweet at us we must support Ukraine was what we call in the industry "a tell".

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at February 28, 2022 03:42 PM (wAnMi)

13 4 By the way, there is no "Marshal of the Supreme Court." The position doesn't exist

Ace, that's what they want you to think.
Posted by: Conspiracies R Us at February 28, 2022 03:39 PM (EughT)

=========

This is one of those Conspiracies that's morally good.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 28, 2022 03:42 PM (LvTSG)

14 >>>Did they really think that years and years of lying, and years of incompetence and catastrophic failures, would have no consequences?

Yes.

>>>Do they really think that years of lying and incompetence and catastrophic failures should have no consequences?

Yes.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at February 28, 2022 03:42 PM (QYPq3)

15
aww...c'mon ace, you know you want to join the True Patriots and put up a blue/yellow flag on all your socials:

https://tinyurl.com/2tv6k6t2

Be stunning! And Brave!

Posted by: kallisto at February 28, 2022 03:42 PM (DJFLF)

16
Abraham Lincoln Brigade II!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 28, 2022 03:43 PM (/U27+)

17 These people are repeating the same game they've been playing for the last 100 years.
Libs screwup the country, money, budgets, diplomacy so badly a conservative house/senate/pres get elected and then they castigate the newly elected for the problems the libs worked so hard to emplace.

And we, the people, get to pay the price every damn time.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at February 28, 2022 03:43 PM (vnqom)

18 By the way, there is no "Marshal of the Supreme Court." The position doesn't exist. The post was simply hallucinated by this noisome self-admitted tweaker.
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Or some troll figured, "this chick is a foreign retard and I can get her to say some stupid shit. Hold my beer and watch this!"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (not a cop!0 at February 28, 2022 03:43 PM (DU+/6)

19 Field Marshall Roberts

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 28, 2022 03:43 PM (BoHLr)

20 I'm that man. Matt Dillon, Supreme Court Marshal. The first man they look for and the last they want to meet. It's a chancey job - and it makes a man watchful - and a little lonely.

Posted by: Marshal Dillon of the Supreme Court at February 28, 2022 03:43 PM (2cfUo)

21 One would think that a war in Ukraine might cause people to start putting together facts about what happened there in 2014, what their involvement was in the fake collusion story, and how much money was handed to the Biden, Pelosi, Romney, and McCain families during that time.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 28, 2022 03:44 PM (5kI0z)

22 "I do support Ukraine, but I don't particularly care all that much about it -- on a scale of 1 to 10, it's about a 4..."

Yep. That's where I'm at.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 28, 2022 03:44 PM (HsAzN)

23 During the Cold War, we took the prospect of nuclear conflict very, very seriously, and took steps to avoid it.
One of the key rules was to avoid direct combat between US and Soviet troops.

Now you have warmongers like Kinzinger and Vindman advocating having the US get into a war with Russia. After all, we know that Putin is bluffing with the nukes, isn't he?

Posted by: The ARC of History! at February 28, 2022 03:44 PM (I2/tG)

24 The same very small group of FUCKING AMORAL IDIOTS AND MENTALLY-ILL NEUROTICS AND CONTROL FREAK KARENS AND NEVERTRUMP PERVERTS has been telling the rest of us what we are allowed to think or say on every fucking issue of any public saliency for six fucking years and I am DONE with it.

And yes I would rather see Ukraine burn to the ground than for one second longer put up with this regime of endless bullying and thought control.

At some point, it must stop. IT MUST FUCKING STOP.

++++
A-freakin-men

Posted by: Joe Mannix (not a cop!0 at February 28, 2022 03:44 PM (DU+/6)

25 This is such a glass-half-empty post.

Look at the bright side:
TRUMP WAS RIGHT.
Right about German dependence on Russian gas
Right about increased NATO spending by the countries it defends
Right about Putin being expansionist
Right about State Dept. being wrong, stupid, and corrupt.

I am torn about Ukraine. On the one hand, I actually want a strong Russia since a failed Russia means a stronger China. But I want Russia on its knees, and on a chain. Europe is uniting against Russia, and that is good. OTOH, I support Ukraine (but deep down I suspect they are just dirty ruskies in disguise) and want them as part of EU and NATO.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at February 28, 2022 03:44 PM (Q1tCm)

26 They are the same people who believe we can call a snap election.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 28, 2022 03:44 PM (BoHLr)

27 that "notRussia but Canada" vid is horrifying.

I saw talk on the socials that UN/NATO troops were called in to squash the protesters.

Why don't they go help out the Ukies right at this moment? I guess maybe going up against a real army rather than a bunch of friendly hosers makes all the difference.

Posted by: kallisto at February 28, 2022 03:44 PM (DJFLF)

28 Ukrainian president to brandon: "I am not leaving!" Brandon But hunter's check from Putin might bounce If I can't get you to leave!"

Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at February 28, 2022 03:45 PM (a9W6T)

29 Zombie Thurgood Marshall of the Supreme Court.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 28, 2022 03:45 PM (HsAzN)

30 1 Content?
at February 28, 2022 03:36 PM (QYPq3)

2 The main question worth asking: I know why Joe Biden would at February 28, 2022 03:38 PM


either the clock on the blog is broken, or there were bewbs on the thread below. two minutes between 1 & 2?

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at February 28, 2022 03:45 PM (IJES/)

31 2 The main question worth asking: I know why Joe Biden would risk collapsing the global economy, maybe even life on Earth itself, for Ukraine.

But why the shit would anyone else?!
Posted by: trev006 at February 28, 2022 03:38 PM (Eqkqm)

Poland (and the Baltics) would b/c they are next, and they know it. As I've mentioned, they do not value weakness in society. They refuse to be subjugated or exterminated without a fight again, so seeing they are on the brink, there is no doubt they would tank the world economy to ensure their own survival...and I'm not even sure that's wrong for them. They played all the cards they had to bring the world to play in Ukraine b/c if they didn't, they'd be rolled next. Now, maybe Western Europe shouldn't have given Poland and the Baltics so many cards over them, b/c they are in this spot b/c they did. But, a pipeline has to flow somewhere - it can't just be airlifted right from the Russian border to the German one...

Posted by: Nova local at February 28, 2022 03:45 PM (exHjb)

32 Good gosh these fools and knaves on the fields of Camlyn...

They think they can game this out.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 28, 2022 03:45 PM (vmZVg)

33 22 "I do support Ukraine, but I don't particularly care all that much about it -- on a scale of 1 to 10, it's about a 4..."

Yep. That's where I'm at.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 28, 2022 03:44 PM (HsAzN)

===========

"Believe harder!"
-I think this is what they're asking of us. I'm not sure.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 28, 2022 03:45 PM (LvTSG)

34 I tweeted Jen Rubin and told her Zelensky needs to know whether her uniform and flak jak is a plus size or double-plus.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at February 28, 2022 03:45 PM (KiBMU)

35 OT: "FEMA: If Faced With Nuclear Explosion, Wear a Mask and Maintain Social Distancing Recommendations"

Now we know why Emily wasn't admitted to the Fallout Shelter.

Posted by: Brother Francis Gerard A.O.L. at February 28, 2022 03:45 PM (EughT)

36 I would get a #RootinforPutin going if I was still on Twitter

Posted by: Regular joe at February 28, 2022 03:45 PM (nnp+f)

37 Something occurred to me:

If we don't invade Ukraine, how can we abandon all our military equipment there?

Nine-dimensional chess...

Posted by: AxL at February 28, 2022 03:45 PM (Tg0A7)

38 Amazing: Noted Respecter of Countries' Sovereignty Condoleeza Rice agrees that any invasion of a country is de facto a "war crime," presumably punishable, as war crimes are, by imprisonment or even hanging.
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Yeah, we haven't invaded a country since WWII. Those were "police actions" and other such euphemisms.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (not a cop!0 at February 28, 2022 03:45 PM (DU+/6)

39 30 either the clock on the blog is broken, or there were bewbs on the thread below. two minutes between 1 & 2?
Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at February 28, 2022 03:45 PM (IJES

========

I know the answer to this, but it's a secret that could get me killed if I let anyone know.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 28, 2022 03:45 PM (LvTSG)

40 All I'm thinking at this point is there's so much dirty laundry in the Ukraine the swamp is scared to fucking death Putin will get his hands on it.

Having Soros tweet at us we must support Ukraine was what we call in the industry "a tell".

Posted by: clutch cargo



Putin focusing on a closed nuclear power site is also telling.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 28, 2022 03:45 PM (5kI0z)

41
By the way, there is no "Marshal of the Supreme Court." The position doesn't exist.

Actually it does. The Marshal of the Supreme Court handles security for the SC. He's the guy who says, "Oyez, oyez, oyez."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 28, 2022 03:46 PM (/U27+)

42 Boiling up the popcorn as I watch the 60's antiwar crowd get force fed their putrid slogans, as well as their transsexual offspring.

Posted by: Cappy at February 28, 2022 03:46 PM (b0jw/)

43 Like that movie "Fail-Safe".

Let Putin nuke Washington DC and we get to nuke Moscow.

Fair enough?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 28, 2022 03:46 PM (uVDu4)

44 43 Like that movie "Fail-Safe".

Let Putin nuke Washington DC and we get to nuke Moscow.

Fair enough?
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 28, 2022 03:46 PM (uVDu4)

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I liked it better as a comedy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 28, 2022 03:46 PM (LvTSG)

45 Ukraine is not a 4 for me. Barely a 0.4.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at February 28, 2022 03:46 PM (OalnH)

46 Did they really think that years and years of lying, and years of incompetence and catastrophic failures, would have no consequences?

Do they really think that years of lying and incompetence and catastrophic failures should have no consequences?
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Well I think the moaning is just another lie. Like the wife beater telling you it's your fault he hits you. So it's not worth parsing any further.

Posted by: ... at February 28, 2022 03:46 PM (dscaa)

47 Oh, and fvck Adam Kinzinger sideways, with Jennifer Griffin's spiky head.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 28, 2022 03:46 PM (HsAzN)

48 From last thread;


Look at all those famous G7 photos of Trump going face to face with everyone else. He is alone. He is alone because he was always saying the opposite of what his own state department was saying. The other "leaders" are trying to show him he is wrong, and must be wrong, because no one in DC agreed with him.

Now they know. Preference cascade.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at February 28, 2022 03:46 PM (Q1tCm)

49 I admit that I sort of love watching the Twitter generation observe war. Russia is a paper tiger because it's been 164 characters. Sorry, four days.

Russia is a paper tiger because it didn't immediately destroy a nation's infrastructure that it would have to then spend billions to rebuild for nothing more than a show of force to impress social media users.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - nothing's built, nothing's back, nothing's better at February 28, 2022 03:47 PM (mJ4M8)

50

When is the bloated guy with the orb-like head Vindman going to stop sucking off Arnold and get his gelatinous ass over there?

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at February 28, 2022 03:47 PM (5OM6N)

51 19 Field Marshall Roberts

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 28, 2022 03:43 PM (BoHLr)


there's a story about one of the Old Hollywood studio heads, who was known for his malapropisms...he was introducing Field Marshal Montgomery at a post -victory banquet.

"Ladies and Gentlemen, I give you Marshall Field Montgomery Ward's"

Posted by: kallisto at February 28, 2022 03:48 PM (DJFLF)

52 Wasn't Mensch a UK MP (Conservative Party)? Pretty odd duck she is.

Posted by: Match Checksout at February 28, 2022 03:48 PM (dYe5S)

53 I'm that man. Matt Dillon, Supreme Court Marshal. The first man they look for and the last they want to meet. It's a chancey job - and it makes a man watchful - and a little lonely.
Posted by: Marshal Dillon


just come on over to the saloon, and have a nice cold beer while you relax and let me massage your shoulders there big boy.

-Miss Kitty

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at February 28, 2022 03:48 PM (IJES/)

54 Gave Alabama nightmare fuel on the ONT.

Are there really any failsafes on the American side when it comes to nuclear launch authority when there are nuts and fakes like Gen. Miley around Joey Bidet?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 28, 2022 03:48 PM (vmZVg)

55 So the leftists are mad that Russia didn't blow all of Ukraine up? And that makes them a paper tiger. But had they blown up the country, then Putin would be literally worse than Hitler.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at February 28, 2022 03:48 PM (OalnH)

56 While I am in full sympathy with the people of ukraine, this is not a war any major country is actually taking seriously.

If people took this seriously, they would fire up the coal powered plants, advocate for building pipelines and nukular plants, frack like crazy, and embargo Russsian energy. But they don't, and that's all you have to kow about any gov't official or diplomat who "takes this very seriously". Its all BS.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 28, 2022 03:49 PM (mZOHK)

57 Again, for all of those who talk about "Muh democratic principles being destroyed in Ukraine by that evil Putin" I would point to the invasion on our southern border, people held in prison for over a year for the crime of trespassing and sovereign rights of American citizens being curtailed under the guise of "safety."

Until local issue are addressed, not one American soldier in Ukraine.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at February 28, 2022 03:49 PM (5pTK/)

58 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at February 28, 2022 03:49 PM (Zz0t1)

59 i feel sullied and unclean with that sock.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at February 28, 2022 03:49 PM (IJES/)

60 Quit bullying us asshoes. We know how to think, we don't need your 'splanations. We know what you have done and what you have been doing. So don't head fake us with muh Putin and muh Russia. You created it, you made the war in Ukraine inevitable, you are currently encouraging more war and expect us to follow you into it. NO.FUCKING.WAY. Spread democracy among your soiboys and pedos - your expertise.

Posted by: runner, dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 03:49 PM (V13WU)

61 What all of this has in common, of course, is that people have been lied to too often, too many times, about too many things, and are now in a mode of Rejectivism, where they dismiss out of hand the claims made by a Regime where lying has become a routine method of control over the population.
And simple, automatic Rejectivism is not an irrational response to a Regime that lies, or is completely 100% wrong, this often. If they lied only once in a while, or were wrong once in a while, I'd say automatic Rejectivism was an overreaction and a bad strategy, as it would usually result in the Rejectivist winding up on the wrong side of the truth.
But when the Regime is almost always lying or almost always wrong, just taking the opposite side without even thinking about it will put you on the right side of the truth 75%, 80% of the time.

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At this point, I just assume that they're wrong at best and usually assume they're actively lying. The reflexive answer is compelling because there's no way to discern truth from lies. When every public figure and every institution at all levels lies constantly, discernment becomes impossible so default rejection becomes reasonable.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (not a cop!0 at February 28, 2022 03:49 PM (DU+/6)

62 The thing we really need to know is if Putin has been reassured that all the nuke stuff is just posturing so he is just playing along, or have the "elite" become so unhinged that they are seriously OK with nuke threatening over this thing that has even happened before, Putin going into Ukraine? Do they seriously see Putin as a viable threat to take the world over?

Posted by: azjaeger at February 28, 2022 03:49 PM (3/XaG)

63 Putin focusing on a closed nuclear power site is also telling.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 28, 2022 03:45 PM (5kI0z)


Not to mention the bioweapon labs we don't know anything about. It all stinks.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at February 28, 2022 03:50 PM (wAnMi)

64 Now they know. Preference cascade.

aka Leadership

Posted by: Gobsmacked at February 28, 2022 03:50 PM (ZsR3z)

65 I would have more feelz for poland. Being the motherland and all.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 28, 2022 03:50 PM (BoHLr)

66 I didn't realize Megan Rapino was a military analyst too.

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at February 28, 2022 03:50 PM (sX1BW)

67 Abraham Lincoln Brigade II!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 28, 2022 03:43 PM (/U27+)

Ummm, in the Spanish Civil War, the International Brigades fought on the commie side...the Republicans. The Republicans like to murder priests, nuns, and captured Nationalist soldiers for kicks.

Posted by: Ganowicz Commie Exterminators, LTD. at February 28, 2022 03:50 PM (apjrS)

68 Make sure you pass that on to all of the Keyboard Kommandoes shrieking that you're not TWEETING HARD ENOUGH about how much you support Ukraine.

--------

Out: Kelly's Heroes.
In: Deli's Zeroes.

Posted by: ShainS -- Honk Semper Tyrannis! at February 28, 2022 03:51 PM (CKXPc)

69 Northrup Grumman is up 7% today.

Nothing to see here folks, move along, this is all about saving democracy in (checks notes) Ukraine.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at February 28, 2022 03:51 PM (OalnH)

70 56 While I am in full sympathy with the people of ukraine, this is not a war any major country is actually taking seriously.

If people took this seriously, they would fire up the coal powered plants, advocate for building pipelines and nukular plants, frack like crazy, and embargo Russsian energy. But they don't, and that's all you have to kow about any gov't official or diplomat who "takes this very seriously". Its all BS.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 28, 2022 03:49 PM (mZOHK)

The west isn't exactly rushing to stop Russian oil exports either. Big crisis for Ukraine, mostly posturing by the rest of the world.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 28, 2022 03:51 PM (z5Vrg)

71 48 Look at all those famous G7 photos of Trump going face to face with everyone else. He is alone. He is alone because he was always saying the opposite of what his own state department was saying. The other "leaders" are trying to show him he is wrong, and must be wrong, because no one in DC agreed with him.

Now they know. Preference cascade.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at February 28, 2022 03:46 PM (Q1tCm)

=========

Incorrect. Trump was wrong then. The situation changed unpredictably (they didn't predict it), and now Trump's recommendations are still wrong because he said them.

Get it?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 28, 2022 03:51 PM (LvTSG)

72 what does greta thunderfuck think about all this?

Posted by: nckate at February 28, 2022 03:51 PM (2oJif)

73 Putin can make up for his war crimes if he forces deplorable Ukrainians to get their covid-jections.

Posted by: Rex B at February 28, 2022 03:51 PM (LPnn8)

74 Gave Alabama nightmare fuel on the ONT.

Are there really any failsafes on the American side when it comes to nuclear launch authority when there are nuts and fakes like Gen. Miley around Joey Bidet?
Posted by: Anna Puma

there used to be in the 80s when i was a custodian. are there now? probably. are they engaged? probably. or is the junta running biden got them bypassed? also probably.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at February 28, 2022 03:51 PM (IJES/)

75 Griffin is married to Greg Myre. Worse than pentagon. NPR.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 28, 2022 03:51 PM (BoHLr)

76 FOX NEWS host Harris Faulkner turns to Condoleezza Rice this morning and says, "When you invade a sovereign nation, that is a war crime" -- Rice nods in solemn agreement.


Now do our southern border.

Posted by: rickb223 Dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 03:51 PM (Hica+)

77 Northrup Grumman is up 7% today.

-===

quick , send Ukies some lethal weapons, stat 1!!1

Posted by: runner, dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 03:51 PM (V13WU)

78 So. Canada was to distract from the virus and/or Biden's eff up.

And the Ukraine is to distract from the increase in prices esp oil. Gas now running a tad below 4 dollars a gallon.

What will they do to distract from the Ukraine? The Russia nuke threat?

It feels that that song that goes on and on; I Swallowed a Spider to Catch a Fly? Or is it just a game of Telephone for the media voices.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 28, 2022 03:52 PM (Sluur)

79 The left: You rednecks disgust us. You are lucky we let you have any freedoms - well after you take your shots and wear your masks...because otherwise to the camps you go.

Also the left: Ok you rednecks, we need you to ship over to Ukraine to fight Ivan. What? Why? Because we told you to. Oh, why not us? Because fuck you that's why.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 28, 2022 03:52 PM (ESjRY)

80 You have stolen my childhood with your....(checks notes)...defective nuclear umbrella!

Posted by: Greta Thumberg at February 28, 2022 03:52 PM (mZOHK)

81 Poland (and the Baltics) would b/c they are next, and they know it. As I've mentioned, they do not value weakness in society. They refuse to be subjugated or exterminated without a fight again, so seeing they are on the brink, there is no doubt they would tank the world economy to ensure their own survival...and I'm not even sure that's wrong for them. They played all the cards they had to bring the world to play in Ukraine b/c if they didn't, they'd be rolled next.
Posted by: Nova local at February 28, 2022 03:45 PM (exHjb)

I'm not sure if you're talking about Poland or Russia itself, but the various Eastern European states have sufficient area to defeat Russia through size. Putin's not expanding to every one of them: just the crazy state led by a comedian who puts literal Nazis and criminals in state militias while scheming to get nuclear weapons.

I really should stay out of big cities for the month. Even to visit.

Posted by: trev006 at February 28, 2022 03:53 PM (Eqkqm)

82 Heh. Jennifer Griffin reporting on Trey Gowdy's show.

No different than LeBron

Whores. All.

ace. Don't ban me, bro. Lebron is what got me. banned from Twitter.

Posted by: Golfman at February 28, 2022 03:53 PM (vQ+F6)

83 By the way, I'm actually very much against Putin and I'm not on board with the stronger arguments made for Putin, or against Ukraine.

Truth is, it would be for the best if Russia bloodies the West's nose by proxy in Ukraine. The U.S. project there is a mix of crony capitalism and outdated Cold War thinking. The only way we'll learn and adopt a more sensible policy is pain, and this at least does not involve risk the lives of U.S. military personnel (the fervent wishes of warmongers notwithstanding).

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at February 28, 2022 03:53 PM (KFhLj)

84 The media is the enemy of the people.


Period.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at February 28, 2022 03:53 PM (Zz0t1)

85
FOX NEWS host Harris Faulkner turns to Condoleezza Rice this morning and says, "When you invade a sovereign nation, that is a war crime" -- Rice nods in solemn agreement.


Now do our southern border.
Posted by: rickb223 Dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 03:51 PM (Hica+)


arriba, arriba, andale, andale ! /

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at February 28, 2022 03:53 PM (M+Lyo)

86 When you invade a sovereign nation, that is a war crime

So...the invasions of Italy, Japan and Germany in the 40s by American troops were...war crimes?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 28, 2022 03:53 PM (ESjRY)

87 >>They're just Omni-Geniuses who are instantly experts in any and all fields they ask a few questions about.


Not only that, but they spend all their time in front of cameras or on twitter. How the hell can you know anything in the modern age without spending at least 20 hours a day researching what is going on each day.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at February 28, 2022 03:53 PM (Q1tCm)

88 What would you say if I told you that I don't care about Russia or the Ukraine?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - nothing's built, nothing's back, nothing's better at February 28, 2022 03:53 PM (mJ4M8)

89 Jennifer Griffin reporting on Trey Gowdy's show.

They comparing hair product tips?

Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 28, 2022 03:54 PM (HsAzN)

90 once i left that field, i make it a point to have a big assed geographic terrain feature between the nearest aim point and myself. and that aimpoint needs to be down wind from me given annual prevailing winds. example: live over the hirizon south of fort worth joint reserve base where the f-35 is assembled.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at February 28, 2022 03:54 PM (IJES/)

91 I nominate Ace for Marshal of the Supreme Court. With all the rights and privileges the office holds.
Amen

Posted by: Weasel at February 28, 2022 03:54 PM (0IeYL)

92 Incorrect. Trump was wrong then. The situation changed unpredictably (they didn't predict it), and now Trump's recommendations are still wrong because he said them.

Get it?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 28, 2022 03:51 PM (LvTSG)

This sounds eerily similar to the Covid science. You sure you're not talking about the Covid science? I think you gotta be talking about the Covid science.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 28, 2022 03:54 PM (KbCG3)

93 As long as they can keep getting their money laundered through Ukraine and their Ukrainian sex slaves, the elites don't care. It's all a show for twitter.

Posted by: brak at February 28, 2022 03:54 PM (5uRA0)

94 Jennifer Griffin. Is that the shaved head scissor bitch that spouts shit occasionally?

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at February 28, 2022 03:54 PM (Zz0t1)

95 Everyone gets a sovereign border but the USA.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 28, 2022 03:54 PM (jTmQV)

96 86 "When you invade a sovereign nation, that is a war crime"

So...the invasions of Italy, Japan and Germany in the 40s by American troops were...war crimes?
Posted by: 18-1 at February 28, 2022 03:53 PM (ESjRY)

Iraq, Afghanistan.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 28, 2022 03:54 PM (z5Vrg)

97 Russia is a paper tiger because it didn't immediately destroy a nation's infrastructure that it would have to then spend billions to rebuild for nothing more than a show of force to impress social media users.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - nothing's built, nothing's back, nothing's better at February 28, 2022 03:47 PM (mJ4M

After decades of seeing that as American war, who can blame them? At least, the school aged users.

Posted by: trev006 at February 28, 2022 03:54 PM (Eqkqm)

98
Ummm, in the Spanish Civil War, the International Brigades fought on the commie side...the Republicans.

I knew that. I'd just like to see all the hors d'oeuvre gobbling DC commentariat freezing their asses off, eating salted fish and dodging shells somewhere far, far away.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 28, 2022 03:54 PM (/U27+)

99 And "rejectionism" (or "rejectivism" - I am not sure which construction would be more correct), like many things, is subject to accumulated misbehavior. There have always been rejectionists, but they were never all that common. The lies built up for a few decades and they were *still* uncommon.

Then the constant, full-throated, continuous lying kicked in. They had gotten away with lying for decades and so decided there were no limits to what they could achieve with lies. In the Trump era, virtually no truths were told (or perhaps none were told at all) by any prominent public figure, institution or organization with notable examples like Rush Limbaugh and John Solomon. Essentially continuous lying. And then COVID happened and they somehow managed to accelerate the lying even more.

Yet now they learn that there are limits to what they can achieve with lies. And the way this is manifesting for a lot of people is this "rectionism" concept: just assume they're lying 100% of the time in all cases and in all contexts.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (not a cop!0 at February 28, 2022 03:54 PM (DU+/6)

100 88 What would you say if I told you that I don't care about Russia or the Ukraine?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - nothing's built, nothing's back, nothing's better at February 28, 2022 03:53 PM (mJ4M


"Oh. What's for dinner?"

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 28, 2022 03:54 PM (mZOHK)

101 The AN-225 super plane was blowed up by the Russkies.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 28, 2022 03:55 PM (BoHLr)

102 Jack Ryan, "General I do not concur."

Sum of all Fears, the book not the movie.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 28, 2022 03:55 PM (vmZVg)

103 How many here support Putin?

Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at February 28, 2022 03:55 PM (a9W6T)

104
arriba, arriba, andale, andale ! /
Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at February 28, 2022 03:53 PM (M+Lyo)



PLANK!!!

Posted by: Ed, Edd and Eddie at February 28, 2022 03:55 PM (Zz0t1)

105 94 Jennifer Griffin. Is that the shaved head scissor bitch that spouts shit occasionally?

Only the shit the Deep State orders her to spout.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 28, 2022 03:55 PM (HsAzN)

106 I don't like Putin but not enough to do anything that stops his heartless takeover of the country where the money laundering that funds my own oppression.

Posted by: Minuteman at February 28, 2022 03:55 PM (LaNzR)

107 Putin has been pretty clear about seeing the possibility of Ukraine joining NATO as an existential threat for Russia. Just because you (DC and supporters) believe a first use* of nuclear weapons is unthinkable doesn't mean he won't do it.

You thought he wouldn't actually invade.

*Don't forget that Russia suffered deaths due to the biological weapon jointly developed and deployed by DC and Beijing. Nuclear response is already justified, at least by the doctrine we officially practice.

Posted by: Methos at February 28, 2022 03:55 PM (kOpft)

108 Non-nooder bastiges!

I'm so late, Ace'll prolly have up an even newer post by the time I hit "post" on this!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at February 28, 2022 03:55 PM (dfRN6)

109 92
This sounds eerily similar to the Covid science. You sure you're not talking about the Covid science? I think you gotta be talking about the Covid science.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 28, 2022 03:54 PM (KbCG3)

=========

It's climate science, actually.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 28, 2022 03:55 PM (LvTSG)

110 I saw Supreme Court Marshalls open for Motley Crue in LA, circa 1984.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at February 28, 2022 03:55 PM (OalnH)

111 Dom DeLuise was good in "Fail-Safe"as the fat Air Force Sgt. who told the Russkies how to defeat the Hustler bomber's bombing run.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 28, 2022 03:55 PM (uVDu4)

112 86 "When you invade a sovereign nation, that is a war crime"

-C Rice and Fox
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Sometimes I swear they're just fucking with us.

Posted by: ... at February 28, 2022 03:55 PM (dscaa)

113 *zzzzzzzzzzzzz... zzz..snerk*

Huh? Oh!

"Je suis Charlie!"

Waitaminit....

Posted by: Rip VanWinkle at February 28, 2022 03:56 PM (SIwP5)

114 The piece in the Canada vid that shows the trucker's window getting smashed by the Stasi -

some truckers reported that their dashcams were disabled.

And guys who did get their trucks back after the impound found them vandalized and windows left open to allow all the snow to come in.

That's our northern neighbor, not some tropical banana republic.

Posted by: kallisto at February 28, 2022 03:56 PM (DJFLF)

115 She is rather unattractive,, even for an English woman. Sort of if somebody were to use the worst bits of Elizabeth hurly and whatshername Rowling to design a woman with hunter Biden's inclinations

Posted by: Y5 at February 28, 2022 03:56 PM (Wf6ai)

116 The time to call Putin's Bluff is Quietly, In Private, Before Anything Happens.

Just like Trump did. "You invade Ukraine, I bomb Moscow."

Notice he didn't say Nuke Moscow. Look up Mathias Rust. A teenager landed a Cessna from Helsincki in Red Square and taxied to the Kremlin Gates. Two years later, it all collapsed.

Posted by: rd at February 28, 2022 03:56 PM (Z32m1)

117 The FNM from 2001-2008: Just because I oppose war with AQ/Saddam doesn't mean I support them!

The FNM NOW: If you don't personally ship overseas to Ukraine AND demand we drop nukes on Moscow you are Putin's cockholster!

Posted by: 18-1 at February 28, 2022 03:56 PM (ESjRY)

118 F*ck Russia, f*ck Ukraine.

No American blood for graft.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - nothing's built, nothing's back, nothing's better at February 28, 2022 03:56 PM (mJ4M8)

119 YOU get a soverign border. And YOU get a soverign border, and YOU...Oh, America? You do NOT get a soverign border.

Posted by: Orcah Windpipe at February 28, 2022 03:56 PM (HsAzN)

120 Righteous ace rant. Totally agree. I wish Ukraine well but I'm far more worried about the commies plaguing our country, including the ones trying to speech police us to cheer for their chickenhawk warmongering.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at February 28, 2022 03:56 PM (tvBpH)

121 This post, especially the second half, is really excellent. It's basically two posts.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (not a cop!0 at February 28, 2022 03:57 PM (DU+/6)

122 NATO in 1992: We promise we will not expand eastwards

Next 30 years: NATO expands eastwards 5 times and is now looking to do it a 6th time with Ukraine

Russia: Fuck no!! You made a promise and we expect you to finally keep it. Enough.

CNN: Why is Putin so unreasonable?

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at February 28, 2022 03:57 PM (OalnH)

123 That's our northern neighbor, not some tropical banana republic.
Posted by: kallisto at February 28, 2022 03:56 PM (DJFLF)


Back the Blue!

Posted by: rd at February 28, 2022 03:57 PM (Z32m1)

124 Every pixel of this.

I just want people to tell the truth about what their position is.

Is stopping Putin important enough that US ground troops should be sent, yes or no? Now, look, I'm on the no side of that equation not because omg Putin is so dreamy but because I do not trust our military command to be able to win a war, what with no war being won during my entire life time despite the US having supposedly the best military there has ever been in human history.

But I'm persuadable. Persuade me. Don't scoff and say no one is calling for ground troops but then refuse to say what support, exactly, should be given. Because when you refuse to state your position, I assume, correctly, that's because you want to hide what it is.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 28, 2022 03:57 PM (GbPPJ)

125 THE SMART SET are now supporting LGBTQU, since the Russians made their move

Posted by: Y5 at February 28, 2022 03:57 PM (Wf6ai)

126 once i left that field, i make it a point to have a big assed geographic terrain feature between the nearest aim point and myself. and that aimpoint needs to be down wind from me given annual prevailing winds. example: live over the hirizon south of fort worth joint reserve base where the f-35 is assembled.
Posted by: BifBewalski

I'm about 75 miles NE of IH-635 in Dallas.

Posted by: rickb223 Dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 03:57 PM (Hica+)

127 She is rather unattractive,, even for an English woman. Sort of if somebody were to use the worst bits of Elizabeth hurly and whatshername Rowling to design a woman with hunter Biden's inclinations
Posted by: Y5 at February 28, 2022 03:56 PM (Wf6ai)

Hurley has bad parts ?

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at February 28, 2022 03:58 PM (M+Lyo)

128 When did Jen Griffin morph into Xeni Jardin?

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at February 28, 2022 03:58 PM (tvBpH)

129 We've been wrong about everything for the past 20 years, but trust us now.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2022 03:58 PM (QCwhW)

130 I remember when we used to accidentally drop bombs on other country's embassies. Like we did to the French embassy in Lybia when they wouldn't let us overfly france in 86. Or the chinese embassy in Kosovo, I think it was.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 28, 2022 03:58 PM (BoHLr)

131 124 But I'm persuadable. Persuade me. Don't scoff and say no one is calling for ground troops but then refuse to say what support, exactly, should be given. Because when you refuse to state your position, I assume, correctly, that's because you want to hide what it is.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 28, 2022 03:57 PM (GbPPJ)

=========

I think she stopped clapping first.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 28, 2022 03:58 PM (LvTSG)

132 Russia also agreed, in two separate understandings, to leave Ukraine the Hell alone.

So, why is Putin to believed?

Posted by: aelfheld at February 28, 2022 03:58 PM (Zy9Yy)

133 So the illegals swarming our border doesn't count eh Condi

Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2022 03:58 PM (J8ILO)

134 101 The AN-225 super plane was blowed up by the Russkies.

Well, they built it. And it really wasn't more than just another giant Russian curiosity. No practical use really or they would have built more. Apparently there is an unfinished fuselage for another that has been sitting in a factory for 30 some years.

Posted by: azjaeger at February 28, 2022 03:59 PM (3/XaG)

135 Based on that map it looks like Putin wants his new border to include the Sea of Azov and whatever that river is called.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 28, 2022 03:59 PM (coYBh)

136 Sources have informed me ... what we need is for Putin to be replaced in due time, then a kinder gentler Russian Prez will join us and India (and others) against the Great China Threat.

OK, I have no sources, but China sure likes Team Biden making Russia the Great Enemy, while Biden/MSM/WallStreet continue to cheer on and enable China.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 28, 2022 03:59 PM (Cus5s)

137 The idea of Meghan McCain in a foxhole is to laugh.

Posted by: aelfheld at February 28, 2022 03:59 PM (Zy9Yy)

138 Such a meaty post. Thick with content. I could sit for a while and enjoy this one.....hmm...phrasing? Eh.

Posted by: Mishdog at February 28, 2022 03:59 PM (3gjFX)

139 We have been bullied about what we are permitted to say or believe about Trump, about Russiagate, about the election, about the January 6 "Insurrection," about BLM and George Floy

--------

and so on. You may have seen the twitter shriek fest that MTG met with White Supremers. No, she went to a Nick Fuentes America First thingy.

The ADL says he's a WS, so therefore his group was a WS meeting. That's it. We're supposed to ostracize some guy because the ADL unpersoned him? Their reasoning includes the fact that Nick thinks trump won the 2020 election but was shlonged by voter fraud. That makes you a WS.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at February 28, 2022 03:59 PM (ZZK0E)

140 If you haven't already I would highly recommend reading this excellent article by Lee Smith about Ukraine and our meddling there before deciding how much you support Ukraine. Putin is not a great guy but Ukraine is far from blameless in this crisis and neither are we for that matter.

I don't blame the Ukrainian people but their leadership and elites are no better than ours.

https://tinyurl.com/yu7j48r4

Posted by: JackStraw at February 28, 2022 03:59 PM (ZLI7S)

141 Breaking News: Condi Rice is just as fucking dumb as the rest of the Bush Crime Family.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at February 28, 2022 03:59 PM (y7DUB)

142 Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 28, 2022 03:49 PM (mZOHK)

Not necessarily true. Biden's puppets are all climate freaks so the closing and keeping closed any oil drilling and reopening any coal plants or even starting a new Nuke plant which even some climate bozos agree is the only choice for an electricity plant today.
If anyone is rooting for Russia (not necessarily to win but to be intensely occupied with) it's the left. They say they're against Putin but privately thank their gods that he took the bait cause he thought he had an easy peasy lemon squeasy road to Kyiv. That Zelanov(?) was going to run. But that didn't happen. Someone's playing dice with the world and hoping that Putin isn't or doesn't get seriously angry and go tac nuke on their azzes. Not on civilians but a tough military objective and a way to demonstrate to the Ukrainians they mean business and scare them into a surrender. And then we hold our breath the one of the puppeteers doesn't push the wrong button or they let Biden in the same room with it. (is that why the special White House to keep him away from the devices that President's use to communicate with the military and other allies?)

Posted by: jakee308 at February 28, 2022 03:59 PM (Sluur)

143 Update: Northrup Grumman closed 8% higher today.

Saving democracy is good for business.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at February 28, 2022 04:00 PM (OalnH)

144 This post, especially the second half, is really excellent. It's basically two posts.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (not a cop!0 at February 28, 2022 03:57 PM (DU+/6)


It's the prog rock song of blog posts!

Posted by: spindrift at February 28, 2022 04:00 PM (h5TKJ)

145 Hello? Anyone? Remember me?
- Covid

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at February 28, 2022 04:00 PM (OalnH)

146 The idea of Meghan McCain in a foxhole is to laugh.
Posted by: aelfheld at February 28, 2022 03:59 PM (Zy9Yy)



Only if she's allowed to pull a buffet table of pork ribs along.

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at February 28, 2022 04:00 PM (Zz0t1)

147 That Canada video is beyond sad.

Posted by: Skip at February 28, 2022 04:00 PM (2JoB8)

148 @alexthechick: you're more generous than I, because I refuse to consent, no matter what arguments are presented.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at February 28, 2022 04:00 PM (5pTK/)

149 I nooded for you non-nooding nonoodniks.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 28, 2022 04:00 PM (a3Q+t)

150 Remember if you claim there was fraud in the 2020 election you are a NAZI who hates democracy.

Oh and also note that the 1980, 2000, 2004, and 2016 elections were stolen.

Posted by: The FNM at February 28, 2022 04:00 PM (ESjRY)

151 So when China crushes Taiwan, will SNL do a little skit?

Will corporate retail America (Walmart, Amazon, Target. etc.) dump all China-made stuff from the shelves and warehouses? What about electronics MIC? We done with those, right?

The banks. Will they freeze the accounts of every Chinese here on whatever type of visa?

The vodka-dumping is just theater, but prepare to challenge everybody you see buying MIC stuff when Xi does Taiwan.

Posted by: Mr Gaga at February 28, 2022 04:01 PM (KiBMU)

152 137 The idea of Meghan McCain in a foxhole is to laugh.

Posted by: aelfheld at February 28, 2022 03:59 PM (Zy9Yy)


She might be useful in a defense ditch.

As bridging equipment.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 28, 2022 04:01 PM (mZOHK)

153 So Ace, are you saying that AllahPundit is a very obese blubbery mascara wearing fatty?

Posted by: johnd01 at February 28, 2022 04:01 PM (ukNFU)

154 Well, they built it. And it really wasn't more than just another giant Russian curiosity

It was designed and built to ferry the space shuttleski. A Uke company was using it to transport oversize cargo.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 28, 2022 04:01 PM (BoHLr)

155 Louise Mensch is married to Peter Mensch, who has been Metallica's co-manager for decades.

Posted by: Mark1971 at February 28, 2022 04:01 PM (xPl2J)

156 Not necessarily true. Biden's puppets are all climate freaks so the closing and keeping closed any oil drilling and reopening any coal plants or even starting a new Nuke plant which even some climate bozos agree is the only choice for an electricity plant today.

That's what I said: its all BS.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 28, 2022 04:02 PM (mZOHK)

157 and so yeah...Ukraine is a 4.

I care about our border, the Biden invasion at 10.

Canada going Australia by means of using war powers against peaceful protestors, 9. well, maybe a 7, those church burners.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at February 28, 2022 04:02 PM (ZZK0E)

158 The left: You rednecks disgust us. You are lucky we let you have any freedoms - well after you take your shots and wear your masks...because otherwise to the camps you go.

Also the left: Ok you rednecks, we need you to ship over to Ukraine to fight Ivan. What? Why? Because we told you to. Oh, why not us? Because fuck you that's why.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 28, 2022 03:52 PM (ESjRY)


The mind boggles that they actually dare to tell us what is patriotic at this point. Patriotic for them is saving their asses. For the first time in their lives they've got skin in the game, and expect us to put out the fire. So they can continue fucking us over.

I loved that interview with that PM Kira Rudik saying "We are not only fighting for Ukraine, we are fighting for the New World Order". Dear Jeebus. Talk about saying the quiet part out loud. Yeah, save the globalists, save the EU.

Waiting for W Bush, Pelosi, Schumer, Feinstein, Obama and Biden to all come out with the appropriate celebrities and sing "We Are The World" with a 1-800 donate number.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at February 28, 2022 04:02 PM (wAnMi)

159 I'm prepared to reject 90% of what every official source says, on all issues, all the time.

And they'll have to work hard to earn my 10% of remaining credulity.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at February 28, 2022 04:02 PM (eeRB6)

160 In fairness the world needs Taiwan, Ukraine not so much

Posted by: Y5 at February 28, 2022 04:02 PM (Wf6ai)

161 Putin put his nuclear forces on highest alert.
_____________

In response, Biden put Haagen Dazs on highest alert.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:02 PM (YqDXo)

162 Dneiper River, what kind of name is that? They should be invaded just for that.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 28, 2022 04:02 PM (coYBh)

163 A poster is becoming tedious beating their quite dead hobby horse.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 28, 2022 04:02 PM (vmZVg)

164 I care about Ukraine. I care about Russia.
Are both corrupt? Sure, particularly in the American sense of the word. Not nearly so, especially in the case of Ukraine, from the perspective of those who live there. There is a reason US law for doing internaitonal business had to change so American companies could compete in an atmosphere of "bakesh."
But I look at my community...two years ago a nice place to live. But now being flooded with assholes from "otherplaces." Litter is out of control. Car prowling, assaults, theft, murders. It is rapidly becoming a third world shithole.
So yeah, Kinginger has no concept of international stability in a multi-polar nuclear world. So fuck him.
Lets get the damn border under control and start drilling.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 28, 2022 04:02 PM (axyOa)

165 There are too many hens in the media and the white house press office. Yes, they look good and draw in male viewers, but I have no idea what the fuck they're talking about.

This is not about a dictator stealing people's freedom. They're not stealing people's freedom and placing it in a big basket of unused freedom. Human stories are compelling but they're a distraction.

Follow the fucking money!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 28, 2022 04:03 PM (PEbbU)

166 86 When you invade a sovereign nation, that is a war crime

So...the invasions of Italy, Japan and Germany in the 40s by American troops were...war crimes?
___________

As were the U.S. invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, when Rice was SOS and NSA under Bush.

She has admitted to committing war crimes!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at February 28, 2022 04:03 PM (k4dH2)

167 I'm so old I was a kid during the nuclear atmospheric tests.


I've only got 17 fingers.


I'm a bat of hell typing....

Posted by: Archer at February 28, 2022 04:03 PM (gmo/4)

168 Russia also agreed, in two separate understandings, to leave Ukraine the Hell alone.

So, why is Putin to believed?
Posted by: aelfheld at February 28, 2022 03:58 PM (Zy9Yy)

that is called REALPOLITIK. the west agreed not to expand NATO....and then promptly expanded NATO... Moldova , which is so poor that it does not even qualify to be a candidate to the European Union is now a NATO member. So they said, fuck it, what's good for the goose, we have security needs too.

Posted by: runner, dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 04:03 PM (V13WU)

169 Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at February 28, 2022 03:59 PM (y7DUB)

I don't know how dumb she is but she definitely shilling for war and always did. Given that she's a secret leftist (mildly so but def) I wonder what her true motive is. To let the USA get it's azz kicked so she and Bush look good?

Barbra Bush is responsible for pushing the clan as far left as they went.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 28, 2022 04:03 PM (Sluur)

170 Reading Kamala had another cringe worthy statement

When folks vote, they order what they want, and in this case they got what they asked for...good and hard.

I might have added that last part although in my defense, that's what she was thinking.

Posted by: WisRich at February 28, 2022 04:03 PM (G0vdT)

171 I'm not supporting anyone in this fight. Someone posted it earlier, just because you see 2 assholes fighting doesn't mean you have to root for one or the other.
I do think Russia will prevail eventually, but Putin has probably underestimated the resistance.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 28, 2022 04:03 PM (jTmQV)

172 We (America) orchestrated a coup in Ukraine and literally ousted a - WAIT FOR IT - democratically elected govt. And this was while Biden was VP. And yet somehow we're fighting for Democracy in Ukraine in 2022.

Go fuck yourselves.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at February 28, 2022 04:03 PM (OalnH)

173 Daily Daddario:

https://tinyurl.com/2p9892nx

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 28, 2022 04:03 PM (LvTSG)

174 So Ace, are you saying that AllahPundit is a very obese blubbery mascara wearing fatty?

Posted by: johnd01 at February 28, 2022 04:01 PM (ukNFU)


They've come a long way with waterproof mascara since the Tammy Fay Baker days.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at February 28, 2022 04:03 PM (wAnMi)

175 I'm not sure if you're talking about Poland or Russia itself, but the various Eastern European states have sufficient area to defeat Russia through size. Putin's not expanding to every one of them: just the crazy state led by a comedian who puts literal Nazis and criminals in state militias while scheming to get nuclear weapons.

I really should stay out of big cities for the month. Even to visit.
Posted by: trev006 at February 28, 2022 03:53 PM (Eqkqm)

Belarus allowed Poland's border to be invaded all winter with US-border-level numbers of "refugees" (you should see Polish soldiers beating back the male throngs - there are videos). Belarus and Russia are 2 peas in a pod. Poland looked at the Ukraine invasion and the way the world originally was taking it in the build up ("a minor incursion is okay") and the way they took the winter Polish border invasion ("ehh, whatevs") and said "enough" and got with Ukraine and the Baltics to turn the tide on "help"...if they and the Baltics sat out, no way is Ukraine getting any help right now...

Posted by: Nova local at February 28, 2022 04:03 PM (exHjb)

176 you're more generous than I, because I refuse to consent, no matter what arguments are presented.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at February 28, 2022 04:00 PM (5pTK/)



That's me, known for my reasonableness.

To self promote, as I'm wont to do, I did a twitter rant on words words words and how the idiots who rule us think that words are reality, not merely describing reality:

https://twitter.com/alexthechick/status/1498307753974149126

No swears so you can tell I'm mad.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 28, 2022 04:04 PM (GbPPJ)

177 In fairness the world needs Taiwan, Ukraine not so much

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Ukraine seems easier to conquer, and look how that is going. That being said, I think the elite care more about Ukraine than Taiwan.

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at February 28, 2022 04:04 PM (sX1BW)

178 Posted by: 18-1 at February 28, 2022 03:53 PM (ESjRY)

Way Back Then, We declared war on countries that declared war on us. Japan declared war on us, except it was about an hour after they started bombing Pearl Harbor. Italy and Germany followed up by declaring war on us December 8, 1941.

Posted by: rd at February 28, 2022 04:04 PM (Z32m1)

179 163 A poster is becoming tedious beating their quite dead hobby horse.
Posted by: Anna Puma at February 28, 2022 04:02 PM (vmZVg)

==========

*considers mentioning Prometheus*

*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*

*does own part to keep thread Prometheus free*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 28, 2022 04:04 PM (LvTSG)

180 And yes I would rather see Ukraine burn to the ground than for one second longer put up with this regime of endless bullying and thought control.

At some point, it must stop. IT MUST FUCKING STOP.

It stops the minute you close the Twitter tab. Because the entire universe you're describing exists only on Twitter, or cable news, on some late night "comedy" shows, and some MSM newspapers. It's all talk. It's just talk by people who take talking very seriously because all they can do is talk. It doesn't have any effect on the real world unless you take the anger that you get from reading that shit and bring it to the real world.

As Dixon Piper said to MacGruber: "All you do is talk. You talk, and you fuck things up." Remember that. That's all this is. It's all they do.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at February 28, 2022 04:04 PM (4DAAg)

181 Old Kinzinger woke up and had a big bowl of soy flakes. What a paper bad ass.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 28, 2022 04:04 PM (iDcra)

182 Meggie Mac and LTC Vindaloumon Bearclaw would make excellent bullet sponges.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 28, 2022 04:05 PM (vmZVg)

183 134 101 The AN-225 super plane was blowed up by the Russkies.

Well, they built it. And it really wasn't more than just another giant Russian curiosity. No practical use really or they would have built more. Apparently there is an unfinished fuselage for another that has been sitting in a factory for 30 some years.
Posted by: azjaeger

- This hurts Putin at home. A lot. That is Putin destroying Russian heritage, and hard to hide.
- It was used for some large transport work, it's just a small market so no need for two.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at February 28, 2022 04:05 PM (Q1tCm)

184 I'm going to be VERY interested in seeing what cushy job Adam Kinzinger lands after he's booted from his US Rep gig in November (he's not running for re-election, if I remember correctly). j

I mean, he's an obvious mouth-breather and serial turn-coat, so who gets to pay him the big bux payoff for being NeverTrump?

Me, I'm still taking bets on Joey Fudge Ripple's SOTA speech including him tossing Mardi Gras beads to all the females in the audience: "Here ya go, Nancy, now show us your boobs! Yeah, take your pants off if you have to! They're down there SOMEWHERE! Woohoo!"

I wonder if the tranquilizer darts have those little Presidential seals on them, too...

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at February 28, 2022 04:05 PM (oedLL)

185 Oh, and fvck Adam Kinzinger sideways, with Jennifer Griffin's spiky head.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at February 28, 2022 03:46 PM (HsAzN)


Rove must have a secret breeding farm that comes up with idiots like Kinzinger.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at February 28, 2022 04:05 PM (y7DUB)

186 "Zelensky is calling on all people who support Ukraine's freedom -- all people, no matter their age, sex, or weight -- to come to Ukraine to fight:"

Will he give me an RPK? Those are so cool.

Posted by: gp's Sympathy Hydrant at February 28, 2022 04:05 PM (qpX6U)

187 "Nuke Russia!" growl the chickenhawks, who've never served in the military or been in a fight since fifth grade.

Posted by: callsign claymore at February 28, 2022 04:05 PM (p9fZF)

188 This morning I heard an ad on Spotify (yeah I'm too cheap to pay for premium) about the military. It was aimed at parents of HS kids who were considering joining. I laughed heartily thinking good luck with that.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at February 28, 2022 04:05 PM (OalnH)

189 Someone posted it earlier, just because you see 2 assholes fighting doesn't mean you have to root for one or the other.

*

Yep. It's easy for any Alabama graduate to understand.

It's Auburn vs Tennessee. Nothing more, nothing less.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - nothing's built, nothing's back, nothing's better at February 28, 2022 04:06 PM (mJ4M8)

190
Ukraine not so much

75,000 tons of bees.

75,000. Tons.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 28, 2022 04:06 PM (/U27+)

191 Hello? Anyone? Remember me?
- Covid
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at February 28, 2022 04:00 PM (OalnH)



We told you to go away!!!

Posted by: Gallup and Rasmussen at February 28, 2022 04:06 PM (axyOa)

192 This Ukraine business must absolutely stay on the front pages of every newspaper in North America for weeks! Weeks, I tell ya!

Posted by: Justine Castreau, fucking the Cunuck chicken at February 28, 2022 04:06 PM (eQVV8)

193 184 I'm going to be VERY interested in seeing what cushy job Adam Kinzinger lands after he's booted from his US Rep gig in November (he's not running for re-election, if I remember correctly). j

Posted by: William F. 'Buck' Dharma at February 28, 2022 04:05 PM (oedLL)

=======

The Democrats of Illinois redrew their congressional districts when they lost a seat and poofed his district out of existence.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 28, 2022 04:06 PM (LvTSG)

194
https://twitter.com/alexthechick/status/1498307753974149126

No swears so you can tell I'm mad.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 28, 2022 04:04 PM (GbPPJ)



I miss the days when kids were taught "sticks and stones may break my bones, but WORDS WILL NEVER HURT ME."

Posted by: Sponge - Trudeau is Asshoe! at February 28, 2022 04:06 PM (Zz0t1)

195 Daily Daddario:

https://tinyurl.com/2p9892nx
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 28, 2022 04:03 PM (LvTSG)



Speaking of needing nukes . . . .

brb getting physicsgeek to bring some reactors online for me

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 28, 2022 04:06 PM (GbPPJ)

196 Putin's not expanding to every one of them: just the crazy state led by a comedian who puts literal Nazis and criminals in state militias while scheming to get nuclear weapons.

I really should stay out of big cities for the month. Even to visit.
Posted by: trev006 at February 28, 2022 03:53 PM (Eqkqm)
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I'm really getting tired of this idea that if we don't stop Putin in Ukraine, Poland is next.

This isn't some vidya game where you conquer one territory, capture its resources, conscript its men, and use that to roll over the next country.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at February 28, 2022 04:06 PM (4DAAg)

197 I wish we had supplied the Ukes with a million AKs, a billion rounds, 10,000 RPGs and 100,000 rockets - small arms and some Javelins before the invasion.

Then let Putin know that more will be on the way if he invaded and that we'd be interested in meeting with him to see if there was anything reasonable to do that would placate the Russians given our atrocious diplomacy. We may have avoided this altogether.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original Trans-Wookie at February 28, 2022 04:07 PM (dMkx0)

198 Even as Moscow invades Ukraine, the Biden administration is relying on Russia to solidify a revamped nuclear agreement with Iran, a deal that senior Republican foreign policy leaders say will be approved in the coming days without any input from Congress.

As Russian forces press further into Ukraine, threatening to spark a world war, the Biden administration is rushing to finalize a Russia-brokered nuclear deal with Iran, Rep. Michael McCaul (R., Texas), the lead Republican on the House Foreign Affairs Committee, told the Washington Free Beacon.

"Russia's further invasion of Ukraine is reprehensible, but we can't lose sight of the next national security crisis as it forms before our eyes: The Biden administration is reportedly rushing to finalize a deal with Iran, brokered by Russia, that it does not want Congress to review, in violation of U.S. law," McCaul said.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2022 04:07 PM (Irn0L)

199 You may have seen the twitter shriek fest that MTG met with White Supremers.\

Did you know when Diana Ross did concerts later in her career she used White Supremes? She was racist that way.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 28, 2022 04:07 PM (coYBh)

200 To self promote, as I'm wont to do, I did a twitter rant on words words words and how the idiots who rule us think that words are reality, not merely describing reality:

https://twitter.com/alexthechick/status/1498307753974149126

No swears so you can tell I'm mad.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 28, 2022 04:04 PM (GbPPJ)
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You do not self-promote nearly enough. Great twitter thread. Thank you for sharing.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at February 28, 2022 04:07 PM (5pTK/)

201 103 How many here support Putin?

I support the end of this before something slips and nukes get launched. I am not fond of the current Uke government and their ties to the corrupt West. Putin is no hero but he isn't part of global technofascism either. But mostly this getting a lid put on it before something happens.

Posted by: azjaeger at February 28, 2022 04:07 PM (3/XaG)

202 I agree with Prime Minister Castreau. As good allies should, we have exactly the same views as our good friend from Cuba. Oops- strike that -Canada.

Posted by: Sundown Joe Biden, angry man at the bus stop at February 28, 2022 04:07 PM (eQVV8)

203 Daily Daddario:

https://tinyurl.com/2p9892nx
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 28, 2022 04:03 PM (LvTSG)
***

Seven days of Daddario makes one weak.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 28, 2022 04:08 PM (axyOa)

204 Presdent Bidum shoulds blow up a Russian base somewhere to show them we be mean business and Trump is not Presdent anymore.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at February 28, 2022 04:08 PM (aCtb5)

205 If thipngs go his way Adam kinzinger is going g to be getting spit roasted by Louise mensch and Katie Hill this evening

Posted by: Y5 at February 28, 2022 04:08 PM (Wf6ai)

206 I care about Ukraine. I care about Russia.
Are both corrupt? Sure, particularly in the American sense of the word.
__________

I propose the introduction of the "Chicago" as a unit of corruption. Most places at most generate 100 millichicago.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:08 PM (YqDXo)

207 Bush's (George) foreign policy vis a vis Russian (from what I remember) was not bad. There was an understanding, and there was dialogue. Without sanctions, major market disruptions and animoosity. As soon as Obama gets in...Fucking war in the middle of Europe. Clinton - same thing. Major , destructive war in the Balkans. Democrats like to start wars, don't they.

Posted by: runner, dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 04:08 PM (V13WU)

208 My biggest concern about Russia invading Ukraine is a possible global ukulele shortage.

Posted by: wth at February 28, 2022 04:08 PM (v0R5T)

209 Putin is literally Hitler.

Also, we will be working closely with Putin on Iran and climate change.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at February 28, 2022 04:08 PM (OalnH)

210 I don't know how dumb she is but she definitely shilling for war and always did. Given that she's a secret leftist (mildly so but def) I wonder what her true motive is. To let the USA get it's azz kicked so she and Bush look good?

She was brainwashed at Stanford by that fuckhead Strobe Talbot, who got everything wrong on Russia and the Soviet Union.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at February 28, 2022 04:09 PM (y7DUB)

211 Remember that time when Russia signed a GD treaty to give up it's germ warfare programs and we destroyed ours and they didn't and in fact, stomped on the gas and developed some real nasty shit in K-stan?

Yeah, lets believe Russia. pinky swearsive...

Posted by: Archer at February 28, 2022 04:09 PM (gmo/4)

212 Iran/Iraq, the US worked very hard to make both sides loose. And all on the down low.

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 28, 2022 04:09 PM (vmZVg)

213 209 Putin is literally Hitler.

Also, we will be working closely with Putin on Iran and climate change.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at February 28, 2022 04:08 PM (OalnH)

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Also, also, Iran wants to wipe out the Jewish state of Israel, and we're kinda, sorta, totally helping that along.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 28, 2022 04:09 PM (LvTSG)

214 It stops the minute you close the Twitter tab. Because the entire universe you're describing exists only on Twitter, or cable news, on some late night "comedy" shows, and some MSM newspapers. It's all talk. It's just talk by people who take talking very seriously because all they can do is talk. It doesn't have any effect on the real world unless you take the anger that you get from reading that shit and bring it to the real world.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at February 28, 2022 04:04 PM (4DAAg)


What I'm seeing is reaching far beyond twatter. I've never seen so many people jump on any bandwagon so fast. The non-political dummies are sucking this up faster than Hunter with a turbocharged straw on a pile of coke. I'm hearing support for the Ukraine for people who couldn't name a single person in congress. Everybody with a microphone and a camera is screaming this, not just the usual suspects. And that's the worst - when it's word of mouth friend to friend shit from the uneducated masses.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at February 28, 2022 04:09 PM (wAnMi)

215 It's all talk. It's just talk by people who take talking very seriously because all they can do is talk. It doesn't have any effect on the real world unless you take the anger that you get from reading that shit and bring it to the real world.

ATC had a good Twitter thread on this subject today.

I usually blame this phenomenon on Harry Potter: we have an entire generation whose holy book is based on the idea that words actually *do* things rather than *mean* things. And so we have an increasing amount of our "elites" who think that writing something makes it so.

This is also why they considered Trump's tweets to be life-or-death.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 28, 2022 04:10 PM (ZGrMX)

216 Or is this not a democracy any more? Is the idea of a democracy "too dangerous" when that democracy begins contemplating sweeping The Ruling Class aside because of its constant lies and constant failures?

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Canada is one step ahead of the pack, they've gone the "too dangerous" route. Negotiating and telling the truth is for equals, Canadian population is no longer considered equal to and by their elites.

The rest of us should take note.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at February 28, 2022 04:10 PM (N2gf7)

217 Yes, we are not a democracy any more and we have no fuckin' bananas.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at February 28, 2022 04:10 PM (sWM8x)

218 You do not self-promote nearly enough. Great twitter thread. Thank you for sharing.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at February 28, 2022 04:07 PM (5pTK/)


Thanks! You may have a lemon bar.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 28, 2022 04:10 PM (GbPPJ)

219 "teenager landed a Cessna from Helsincki in Red Square and taxied to the Kremlin Gates. Two years later, it all collapsed."

A little further back, some guys marched around a city for ? seven days or so, and then all the walls fell down. I can't recall if they were blowing their horns ... or maybe it was drums?

Posted by: illiniwek at February 28, 2022 04:10 PM (Cus5s)

220 Rove must have a secret breeding farm that comes up with idiots like Kinzinger.
Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at February 28, 2022 04:05 PM (y7DUB)
===============
By Boneless Pork Rectum out of Lizard Cheney.

Posted by: Sundown Joe Biden, angry man at the bus stop at February 28, 2022 04:10 PM (eQVV8)

221 I'm not sure if you're talking about Poland or Russia itself, but the various Eastern European states have sufficient area to defeat Russia through size. Putin's not expanding to every one of them: just the crazy state led by a comedian who puts literal Nazis and criminals in state militias while scheming to get nuclear weapons.

Poland's standing army is about the same size as the total force Putin has available for Ukraine, and better trained, and better equipped.

Posted by: Methos at February 28, 2022 04:10 PM (kOpft)

222 Stirrin up a nuclear war for shits and grins?

Well, its one way to hide mega deaths caused by the vaccinocide.

Posted by: Kaboom -- its not just a breakfast cereal anymore at February 28, 2022 04:10 PM (RlBKf)

223 205 If thipngs go his way Adam kinzinger is going g to be getting spit roasted by Louise mensch and Katie Hill this evening
Posted by: Y5 at February 28, 2022 04:08 PM (Wf6ai)
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This sounds like the beginning of a theory of Twitter: Most takes expressed on Twitter are designed to make nerds sexually attractive to sixes and sevens.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at February 28, 2022 04:10 PM (4DAAg)

224 This isn't some vidya game where you conquer one territory, capture its resources, conscript its men, and use that to roll over the next country.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at February 28, 2022 04:06 PM (4DAAg)

It's interesting: even in grand strategy games which do encourage that, the snowball effect is most in danger when your leader dies and others compete to rule your empire. Or when your pliant vassals die and ambitious sons struggle for liberation.

Anyways. What's most interesting is that the American elite are trying to control the world on behalf of mentally ill pedophiles. I doubt they will succeed.

Posted by: trev006 at February 28, 2022 04:10 PM (Eqkqm)

225 Ukraine is doing awesome and Putin is blundering all over so we have to send troops there now!
- incoherent media

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 28, 2022 04:11 PM (lCui1)

226 How long do you all think the MSM will keep this up? Wars are exciting for a few days. But eventually the public tunes out. My guess is by next week, this will be "in other news" stuff, before weather and sports.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at February 28, 2022 04:11 PM (OalnH)

227 211 Remember that time when Russia signed a GD treaty to give up it's germ warfare programs and we destroyed ours and they didn't and in fact, stomped on the gas and developed some real nasty shit in K-stan?

Yeah, lets believe Russia. pinky swearsive...

Posted by: Archer at February 28, 2022 04:09 PM (gmo/4)

Suuuuuure we did.

Posted by: Anthony Motherf*cking Science Fauci at February 28, 2022 04:11 PM (6FeV1)

228 How many here support Putin?

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Stupid question. How many here supported Gaddafi ? Did I personally like him ? NO. But taking him out was a dumbasses move evah. Thanks Hillary.

Posted by: runner, dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 04:11 PM (V13WU)

229
Clinton - same thing. Major , destructive war in the Balkans.

Getting involved in the Balkans was a catastrophe. It set the Russians against us for all and good.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 28, 2022 04:11 PM (/U27+)

230
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I'm really getting tired of this idea that if we don't stop Putin in Ukraine, Poland is next.

This isn't some vidya game where you conquer one territory, capture its resources, conscript its men, and use that to roll over the next country.
Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at February 28, 2022 04:06 PM (4DAAg)

It's not whether we think it - it's whether the Poles and Baltics think it...and that's what's brought the world to help in Poland.

As for me, I'm fine with the US sitting this out. I'd like our own border secured like Poland secured theirs. But, I don't always get what I want...heck, I rarely do from fed gov...

Posted by: Nova local at February 28, 2022 04:11 PM (exHjb)

231 195 Daily Daddario:

https://tinyurl.com/2p9892nx
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 28, 2022 04:03 PM (LvTSG)

Speaking of needing nukes . . . .

brb getting physicsgeek to bring some reactors online for me
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 28, 2022 04:06 PM (GbPPJ)

She was in an episode of Workaholics that I just watched. Was like chocolate being put into peanut butter.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 28, 2022 04:11 PM (KbCG3)

232 Dummest, whatever...

Posted by: runner, dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 04:11 PM (V13WU)

233
I don't blame the Ukrainian people but their leadership and elites are no better than ours.

https://tinyurl.com/yu7j48r4
Posted by: JackStraw at February 28, 2022 03:59 PM (ZLI7S)


Remember Ukraine's Burisma hired Hunter Biden and a few other Washington DC insider's spawn too. How Elitist is that?

Posted by: rd at February 28, 2022 04:11 PM (Z32m1)

234 either the clock on the blog is broken, or there were bewbs on the thread below. two minutes between 1 & 2?
Posted by: BifBewalski


brb...going to check for bewbs...

Posted by: Oedipus at February 28, 2022 04:12 PM (Yh/Y3)

235
Getting involved in the Balkans was a catastrophe. It set the Russians against us for all and good.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 28, 2022 04:11 PM (/U27+)


Which time?

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at February 28, 2022 04:12 PM (mZOHK)

236 I just want people to tell the truth about what their position is.

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I just wish our politicians would at least start with the understanding that whatever their position is they begin their formulation with what is best for America and somewhat mean it. We may not all agree on what that is, but wouldn't it be great for our country if we all agreed on that starting premise.

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at February 28, 2022 04:12 PM (sX1BW)

237 Sanctions really do not work. Just look at North Korea, Cuba, Iran, etc.. There are still around !!!

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at February 28, 2022 04:12 PM (fa8iI)

238 Bravo, Ace!

BRA-FUCKING-VISSIMO


And a seconded bravo to AtC for word-is-all-they-know stuff. They sit on their mushy complacent assess manipulating words, syllables, acronyms, like a child playing with crayons.

Posted by: Hands at February 28, 2022 04:12 PM (786Ro)

239 "teenager landed a Cessna from Helsincki in Red Square and taxied to the Kremlin Gates. Two years later, it all collapsed."

If he flew a Mooney, they would have surrendered the same day.

Posted by: gp's Sympathy Hydrant at February 28, 2022 04:12 PM (qpX6U)

240 Watching Fox I heard some pundit blame Russian military blunder in Ukraine on the general in charge who apparently often talks to Vanilli Milley. I laughed so hard I nearly wet myself.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at February 28, 2022 04:13 PM (N2gf7)

241 I don't care for Putin, either, although this was is the direct result of the State Department's cynical manipulation of the Ukraine for the feelz and grift. I fucking hate the Ruling Class almost as much as the nuclear war they seem willing to cause.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at February 28, 2022 04:13 PM (oifcv)

242
Poland's standing army is about the same size as the total force Putin has available for Ukraine, and better trained, and better equipped.
Posted by: Methos at February 28, 2022 04:10 PM (kOpft)


Think the Ukes hate Russia? Multiply by 100 and that's how the Poles feel.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 28, 2022 04:13 PM (/U27+)

243 I propose the introduction of the "Chicago" as a unit of corruption. Most places at most generate 100 millichicago.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:08 PM


Objection! Measurement units should be named after people, not places. I propose the "Daley", Specifically Richard M.

Posted by: Chuck C at February 28, 2022 04:13 PM (EughT)

244 A pampered slattern?? I thought she was a worthless drab??

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at February 28, 2022 04:13 PM (UHVv4)

245 It is a coincidental fact that most wars come about when a weak Democrat is POTUS..........

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at February 28, 2022 04:13 PM (fa8iI)

246 Is stopping Putin important enough that US ground troops should be sent, yes or no?

i'm a hard 'no', ATC. i just cannot make myself give enough of a ohuck for the ukraine, and don't care if it was the chinese doing it, much less to russians. let europe deal with the neighbor's dog shitting in their own back yard.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at February 28, 2022 04:13 PM (IJES/)

247 I judge my reaction to things like this based upon what I can or cannot do to change them. Outrage for outrage's sake is useless and stupid. None of these armchair warriors give one flying fuck about the folks actually fighting and dying in these wars, nor will they ever be called upon to do it themselves, so their outrage is about as useful as that idiot that screamed when Trump was elected. Their "feels" affect me not at all.

Posted by: tcn in AK at February 28, 2022 04:13 PM (okGHj)

248 This busty brunette in a tight dress embraced rejectivism:
https://is.gd/NAap4G

Posted by: Joe Mannix (not a cop!0 at February 28, 2022 04:13 PM (DU+/6)

249 I care about Ukraine. I care about Russia.
Are both corrupt? Sure, particularly in the American sense of the word.
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I propose the introduction of the "Chicago" as a unit of corruption. Most places at most generate 100 millichicago.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Louisiana 1:1 Shitcago

Posted by: rickb223 Dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 04:14 PM (Hica+)

250 Is there any way we can trade Presidents with Ukraine?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 28, 2022 04:14 PM (eJn7u)

251 Yeah which time?

Woodrow Wilson or Bill Clinton?

Posted by: Anna Puma at February 28, 2022 04:14 PM (vmZVg)

252 248 This busty brunette in a tight dress embraced rejectivism:
https://is.gd/NAap4G
Posted by: Joe Mannix (not a cop!0 at February 28, 2022 04:13 PM (DU+/6)

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She's not going to get any action that way.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 28, 2022 04:14 PM (LvTSG)

253 I support the end of this before something slips and nukes get launched.

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In August of 1914, how many Americans could have realistically envisioned over 100,000 American deaths?

Wars in a Europe have a way of spinning out of control.

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at February 28, 2022 04:14 PM (sX1BW)

254 Now, a federal district court in Northern Virginia has handed down a major decision in Coalition for TJ v. Fairfax County School Board, ruling that a new admissions policy at the Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology, in Fairfax, Virginia is unconstitutional. Recently, the county decided to change the admissions system for the elite school to increase minority enrollment. Judge Claude Hilton ruled that the county unconstitutionally engineered the reduction of Asian-American students to achieve greater racial diversity.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 28, 2022 04:14 PM (BoHLr)

255 A poster is becoming tedious beating their quite dead hobby horse.

We're all standing right here you know!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 28, 2022 04:14 PM (coYBh)

256 244 A pampered slattern?? I thought she was a worthless drab??
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at February 28, 2022 04:13 PM (UHVv4)

I think if you just stick with the term "useless" you can avoid this sort of confusion.

Posted by: tcn in AK at February 28, 2022 04:14 PM (okGHj)

257 Col. Macgregor"s 4 minutes on FOX last night was the truth.
The Neocons and libs went bat shit crazy.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6299099588001#sp=show-clips

Posted by: Joe Donskoi at February 28, 2022 04:15 PM (6BTho)

258 You know things are going well for the Ukranian army when their president is handing out rifles to children and little old ladies and begging the world to come help.

Posted by: Colonel Vindman at February 28, 2022 04:15 PM (UzHWA)

259 BTW I checked with very well connected people in the Supreme Court and the proper title is "Lord Marshal of the Supreme court."

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 28, 2022 04:15 PM (iDcra)

260 233
I don't blame the Ukrainian people but their leadership and elites are no better than ours.

https://tinyurl.com/yu7j48r4
Posted by: JackStraw at February 28, 2022 03:59 PM (ZLI7S)

Well, they are a little better than ours - none of them cut and ran when this got real, even though they had offers...

Posted by: Nova local at February 28, 2022 04:15 PM (exHjb)

261 I usually blame this phenomenon on Harry Potter: we have an entire generation whose holy book is based on the idea that words actually *do* things rather than *mean* things. And so we have an increasing amount of our "elites" who think that writing something makes it so.

This is also why they considered Trump's tweets to be life-or-death.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 28, 2022 04:10 PM (ZGrMX)
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It goes all the way to William of Ockham, who made the theological error of getting the ball rolling on Nominalism. (Some would blame Duns Scotus for this, but I'm not so sure). The idea that universals don't exist, and categories are nothing more than the names we give things, has been a disaster for the human race. This is the same thinking that leads us to conclude that the category "woman" doesn't exist objectively, and a "woman" is whatever we define one to be.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at February 28, 2022 04:15 PM (4DAAg)

262 The time to call Putin's Bluff is Quietly, In Private, Before Anything Happens.

Just like Trump did. "You invade Ukraine, I bomb Moscow."

Yup. I get the childish foolhardiness of poking the bear when it's asleep, but when it's awake and mauling the first kid it saw? Insanity.

Posted by: Methos at February 28, 2022 04:15 PM (kOpft)

263
A pampered slattern?? I thought she was a worthless drab??
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at February 28, 2022 04:13 PM (UHVv4)


A jabbering slag.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 28, 2022 04:15 PM (/U27+)

264 We're all standing right here you know!
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 28, 2022 04:14 PM (coYBh)

Well, some of us are sitting, but otherwise, yeah.

Posted by: tcn in AK at February 28, 2022 04:15 PM (okGHj)

265 My theory is that the globalist class wanted Ukraine in NATO, but knew that Russia wouldn't allow it. The whole "minor incursion" slip by Biden was because the plan was to goad Putin into moving troops into the breakaway provinces, and then negotiate a recognition of their independence in exchange for the remaining portions of Ukraine joining NATO. They've been trying to signal that to Russia (if not outright telling Putin privately).

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at February 28, 2022 04:15 PM (wmDcS)

266 i'm a hard 'no', ATC. i just cannot make myself give enough of a ohuck for the ukraine, and don't care if it was the chinese doing it, much less to russians. let europe deal with the neighbor's dog shitting in their own back yard.
Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at February 28, 2022 04:13 PM (IJES/)


See, that's a completely valid position as well and, frankly, my starting point.

Ian S., you may also have a lemon bar.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 28, 2022 04:15 PM (GbPPJ)

267 Russia is enemy. Now, in the past & in the future. Sorry. I didn't grow up during the Cold War to suddenly, for no apparent reason, hug Russia and welcome them into the fold.

Posted by: rickb223 Dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 04:15 PM (Hica+)

268 This is all so cold ware redux to me.

The equivalency.
No, fearing the bear is not the same as taunting the bear. Building defenses is not the same as provocation. NATO expansion is not the same as neighbor invading, and NATO is not the same as missiles in Cuba.
The Russians always made that argument, and the Left in the US and Europe always backed them up. And then Russia would invade a bit more territory and we "reset". This has literally been going on since WWII

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at February 28, 2022 04:16 PM (Q1tCm)

269 She was brainwashed at Stanford by that fuckhead Strobe Talbot, who got everything wrong on Russia and the Soviet Union.
Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at February 28, 2022 04:09 PM (y7DUB)
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Talbott is Shaker Heights finest, btw.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at February 28, 2022 04:16 PM (l1LhX)

270 I usually blame this phenomenon on Harry Potter: we have an entire generation whose holy book is based on the idea that words actually *do* things rather than *mean* things. And so we have an increasing amount of our "elites" who think that writing something makes it so.
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It's like modeling a phenomenon. Modeling doesn't influence the phenomenon, it merely tries to describe it, with accuracy that depends critically on the model. Using a dodgy model to forecast future results is madness.

And no, Virginia, pointing out that the model WOULD have predicted past observations doesn't count, since the model was parameterized FROM the observations. It'd be a sorry lookout if it DIDN'T conform to past observations.

A x B/A = A, as observed. Yay! Our model works!

"Circular reasoning," see "Reasoning, circular."
"Reasoning, circular," see "Circular reasoning."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:16 PM (YqDXo)

271 Is stopping Putin important enough that US ground troops should be sent, yes or no?

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HELL NO

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 28, 2022 04:16 PM (lCui1)

272 = B

Sorry.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:16 PM (YqDXo)

273 UC-Berkley Prof Lets The Cat Out Of The Bag: "To Abolish Whiteness Means To Abolish White People"

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Well, I'm glad we got that cleared up.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at February 28, 2022 04:16 PM (FVME7)

274 Is there something wrong with that Kinzinger fellow?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh. at February 28, 2022 04:16 PM (eGTCV)

275 Getting involved in the Balkans was a catastrophe. It set the Russians against us for all and good.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 28, 2022 04:11 PM (/U27+)


Russia's had their own Balkans issues since before Tolstoy, who wrote about them in Hadji Murad.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at February 28, 2022 04:17 PM (y7DUB)

276 And that's the worst - when it's word of mouth friend to friend shit from the uneducated masses.

Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at February 28, 2022 04:09 PM (wAnMi)


one guy, all whipped up into a frenzy accosted me today:

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT PUTIN PUSHING THE BUTTON//1//??

Me: Whatever. I'm ready to meet my maker. Who cares

Posted by: kallisto at February 28, 2022 04:17 PM (DJFLF)

277 https://tinyurl.com/yu7j48r4
Posted by: JackStraw at February 28, 2022 03:59 PM (ZLI7S)

Vey well and moderately stated.

But the problem is that the people who disagree, including people here, cannot hear this. Won't hear this.

It's a bit like the unequivocal law-and-order back-the-blue sentiment that prevent some conservatives from seeing that armed agents of the state are not their friends. Conservatives, like liberals, are locked into a Cold War paradigm of our role in Europe (and largely ignorant of our doings in Ukraine in particular). The lens through which they filter all events distorts the situation. Until they stop fighting the Cold War . . .

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at February 28, 2022 04:17 PM (KFhLj)

278 I find it fascinating that the West is sanctioning, fighting, verbally attacking Putin while making him the world's richest man at the same time.
There's your Green Energy policy.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 28, 2022 04:17 PM (jTmQV)

279 And a seconded bravo to AtC for word-is-all-they-know stuff. They sit on their mushy complacent assess manipulating words, syllables, acronyms, like a child playing with crayons.
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Like pretendent Joey finger painting with his Depends load.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 28, 2022 04:17 PM (iDcra)

280 246 Is stopping Putin important enough that US ground troops should be sent, yes or no?

i'm a hard 'no', ATC. i just cannot make myself give enough of a ohuck for the ukraine, and don't care if it was the chinese doing it, much less to russians. let europe deal with the neighbor's dog shitting in their own back yard.
Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at February 28, 2022 04:13 PM (IJES/)
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I don't know how I'd evaluate this question in the absence of a nuclear-armed Russia, but that's irrelevant.

Posted by: Masturbatin' Pete at February 28, 2022 04:17 PM (4DAAg)

281 Not my monkeys, not my circus.
Call me when our southern border is secure.

Posted by: Infidel at February 28, 2022 04:17 PM (BucG6)

282 Townhall.com
@townhallcom
[Kumswallo] HARRIS: "When folks vote, they order what they want, and in this case they got what they asked for...I went off script a little bit."

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OK, OK, what she meant was "When folks vote and then we massage the numbers . . ."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at February 28, 2022 04:17 PM (FVME7)

283 Suuuuuure we did.

Posted by: Anthony Motherf*cking Science Fauci at February 28, 2022 04:11 PM (6FeV1)


I have friends who destroyed our germ/bio weapons at Dugway/Tooele

Posted by: Archer at February 28, 2022 04:18 PM (gmo/4)

284 Ace brings the heater out full of flames. Never forget and never forgive the NT traitors.

Posted by: Squid at February 28, 2022 04:18 PM (OuCyL)

285 Poland's standing army is about the same size as the total force Putin has available for Ukraine, and better trained, and better equipped.
Posted by: Methos at February 28, 2022 04:10 PM (kOpft)

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After WW2, the Katyn Forest and 40 years of the Warsaw Pact, and that little plane crash a few years ago? Poland has a fine tuned hatred for Russia.

Posted by: rd at February 28, 2022 04:18 PM (Z32m1)

286 I have issues with Ukraine. No fan of Putin, but he could be our sonofabitch if we wanted.

Ukraine bet on Joe and he screwed them. Ooops! Choose more wisely next time!

Posted by: blaster at February 28, 2022 04:18 PM (9otr5)

287 Mary is all up for Nuclear war.

Posted by: Skip at February 28, 2022 04:18 PM (2JoB8)

288 Talbott is Shaker Heights finest, btw.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at February 28, 2022 04:16 PM (l1LhX)


Did not know that.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at February 28, 2022 04:18 PM (y7DUB)

289 Just like Trump did. "You invade Ukraine, I bomb Moscow."
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Better: "You invade Ukraine, I will do something you really won't like."

Let his imagination run riot. Don't tell him what you'll do; let him guess.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:18 PM (YqDXo)

290 Never trust a Xi!

Bank Of China Cuts Off Russian Oil Trades?
Call this one the Mother Of All Signals, if true. China's financial entities have cut off credit for Russian energy sales, Bloomberg reports, following an avalanche of Western sanctions over Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine...


Vlad better rush men to Siberia, comrade, just in case.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at February 28, 2022 04:18 PM (UHVv4)

291 281 Not my monkeys, not my circus.
Call me when our southern border is secure.
Posted by: Infidel at February 28, 2022 04:17 PM (BucG6)

Yep. This tune has been played before.

Posted by: kraken at February 28, 2022 04:18 PM (Vr12I)

292 This actually good because global thermonuclear war is the only way to finally get rid of covid

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 28, 2022 04:19 PM (tmduG)

293 The main question worth asking: I know why Joe Biden would risk collapsing the global economy, maybe even life on Earth itself, for Ukraine.
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As they say, the cover up is always worse than the crime. And the crime, was the worst one evah.

Posted by: Kaboom -- its not just a breakfast cereal anymore at February 28, 2022 04:19 PM (VQ/CP)

294 if I'm being honest the whole fervor over this invasion has been kind of bewildering to me.

the Ukrainian people I know are VERY conservative politically and since they appreciate all this support, even from wacked out liberals, I will just shut up and let them virtue signal. I'm not sure it hurts.

other than that, all I can do is be personally supportive, cook some goodies, pray for their country, and try to help them through. it sucks and it WAS shocking. but most people in the US I don't see why they would be so concerned about it, I do think for the vast majority of them it comes from a good/harmless place.

Posted by: Black Orchid at February 28, 2022 04:19 PM (j9HX3)

295 What kind of name is "Strobe?" Is he a flash in the pan or something?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:19 PM (YqDXo)

296 NYC is lifting its retarded vax mandate. Boston, DC, Seattle and now NYC.

The lunacy is over.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at February 28, 2022 04:19 PM (OalnH)

297 Ace,
I read the content. This is actually an excellent statement of where my head is at. I am not vested in the idea that Putin and Xi must be angels because they dislike the global elites. Instead, I pity the common people in all the nations that are repeatedly screwed by their elites trying to go back to feudal times. But at least in feudal times, the lords themselves had to saddle up and risk their skins--today, they outsource it.

Regarding Ukraine, I think the US ought to let Europe take the lead on this one which they are doing apparently because it is in their interest to have a bear get its muzzle stung.

Posted by: whig at February 28, 2022 04:19 PM (Iq9dF)

298
After WW2, the Katyn Forest and 40 years of the Warsaw Pact, and that little plane crash a few years ago? Poland has a fine tuned hatred for Russia.
Posted by: rd at February 28, 2022 04:18 PM (Z32m1)


Not to mention the Miracle of the Vistula, revolts in 1864 and 1830 and three partitions.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 28, 2022 04:19 PM (/U27+)

299 292 This actually good because global thermonuclear war is the only way to finally get rid of covid
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at February 28, 2022 04:19 PM (tmduG)

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The survivors will still have to mask up, though. Just to be safe.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 28, 2022 04:19 PM (LvTSG)

300 She [Meghan McCain] might be useful in a defense ditch.

As bridging equipment.
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As a berm.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at February 28, 2022 04:20 PM (UHVv4)

301 I'm not pro-Russia, but didn't Ukraine specifically elect a President that promised not to join NATO?

Some of this really is them poking a bear and then being surprised the bear bites them.

Not saying they deserve this, but Ukraine is a deeply corrupt, failed state and I have no interest in bailing them out here and spending trillions while risking WWIII while Biden is in charge.

Posted by: Blago at February 28, 2022 04:20 PM (Ab9hi)

302 Send UZ troops? Do they have anything to wear? What nail polish goes with fatigues?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 28, 2022 04:20 PM (eJn7u)

303 292 This actually good because global thermonuclear war is the only way to finally get rid of covid


ha ha thanks lemmiwinks! first time I've laughed today!

I'm in a dark place lol

Posted by: Black Orchid at February 28, 2022 04:20 PM (j9HX3)

304 By a curious coincidence it is now time to dump your N95s and don your gas-masks.

Posted by: washrivergal at February 28, 2022 04:20 PM (qZ8J+)

305


"You invade Ukraine, I bomb Moscow."

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Putin does not respond well to sticks. Even from real estate developers with an ego. Very, extremely unlikely those were the words used. As I said before, something along the lines, "no Ukraine in NATO. " Another reason they removed him.

Posted by: runner, dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 04:20 PM (V13WU)

306 296 NYC is lifting its retarded vax mandate. Boston, DC, Seattle and now NYC.

The lunacy is over.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at February 28, 2022 04:19 PM (OalnH)

MIDTERMS

Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2022 04:20 PM (J8ILO)

307 After WW2, the Katyn Forest and 40 years of the Warsaw Pact, and that little plane crash a few years ago? Poland has a fine tuned hatred for Russia.
Posted by: rd at February 28, 2022 04:18 PM (Z32m1)
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They started out with a fine-tuned hatred of Russia long before that.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:20 PM (YqDXo)

308 This actually good because global thermonuclear war is the only way to finally get rid of covid

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Mr. McKittrick, after very careful consideration, sir, I've come to the conclusion that your new defense system sucks.

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at February 28, 2022 04:21 PM (sX1BW)

309 It appears the globalist plan is proceeding as ordered.

Posted by: Capital Eff at February 28, 2022 04:21 PM (GYllL)

310 >>Is stopping Putin important enough that US ground troops should be sent, yes or no?

Is this a poll?

Hell no. And I think I am one of the more pro-ukraine commenters who always wanted them in NATO.

Also a hard no on rebuilding funds and special funds and emergency funds.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at February 28, 2022 04:21 PM (Q1tCm)

311 verbally attacking Putin while making him the world's richest man at the same time.

You can be damn sure there are plenty in the US getting much more wealth too.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 28, 2022 04:21 PM (coYBh)

312 Or is this not a democracy any more? Is the idea of a democracy "too dangerous" when that democracy begins contemplating sweeping The Ruling Class aside because of its constant lies and constant failures?

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"Come on, comrade! Didn't you get to memo? Freedom is the new Tyranny ..."

Posted by: ShainS -- Honk Semper Tyrannis! at February 28, 2022 04:21 PM (5rKEU)

313 306 296 NYC is lifting its retarded vax mandate. Boston, DC, Seattle and now NYC.

The lunacy is over.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at February 28, 2022 04:19 PM (OalnH)

MIDTERMS
Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2022 04:20 PM (J8ILO)

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I thought Dominion ensured Democratic victory forever no matter what they did.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 28, 2022 04:21 PM (LvTSG)

314 Too much to copy and paste but behold the wisdom of Nicole Hannah phones

https://bit.ly/3pm8yE4

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at February 28, 2022 04:21 PM (FVME7)

315 Retired Col. Douglas Macgregor is often a guest of Tucker Carlson. I expect Tucker to have a not so subtle take-down of the media's armchair generals. Plus it'll be blue-on-blue action. Much anticipation for 8-8:15PM tonight.

Posted by: Chuck Martel at February 28, 2022 04:21 PM (fs1hN)

316 Bank Of China Cuts Off Russian Oil Trades?
Call this one the Mother Of All Signals, if true. China's financial entities have cut off credit for Russian energy sales, Bloomberg reports, following an avalanche of Western sanctions over Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine...
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China is a massive oil importer and having the price skyrocket is not in their economic interests. Wonder if Putin lied to Xi about the extent of the invasion because we know that Xi forwarded US intel for the last three months given to him about Russia and the Ukraine.

Posted by: whig at February 28, 2022 04:21 PM (Iq9dF)

317 I find it hard to believe that evil shits like Fauci wouldn't keep their own personal stashes from places like the Edgewood Arsenal.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at February 28, 2022 04:21 PM (y7DUB)

318 but most people in the US I don't see why they would be so concerned about it, I do think for the vast majority of them it comes from a good/harmless place.
Posted by: Black Orchid at February 28, 2022 04:19 PM (j9HX3)

I think so, too. My kids have the "you don't get to invade and take over someone else's country for no reason" reflexive backing of Ukraine. I actually haven't gone into nuance with them b/c I'd prefer the US get out of the nation building game, too...

Posted by: Nova local at February 28, 2022 04:21 PM (exHjb)

319 289 Just like Trump did. "You invade Ukraine, I bomb Moscow."
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Better: "You invade Ukraine, I will do something you really won't like."

Let his imagination run riot. Don't tell him what you'll do; let him guess.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:18 PM (YqDXo)

Nah, that sounds too Biden-ey. Just open, empty bluster.

If you directly threaten to bomb Moscow, and you're one of a handful of people on Earth who actually *can* bomb Moscow, your message is going to get through fairly well I should think. (As evidenced by the distinct lack of invasions between 2016 and 2020.)

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 28, 2022 04:22 PM (6FeV1)

320 304 By a curious coincidence it is now time to dump your N95s and don your gas-masks.
Posted by: washrivergal at February 28, 2022 04:20 PM (qZ8J+)

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Right?
- Manufacturers of both types of masks, who saw declining sales of one and moved production lines to the other

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at February 28, 2022 04:22 PM (OalnH)

321 Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at February 28, 2022 03:57 PM (OalnH)

It's refreshing to finally read a comment section on NATO breaking agreements. That shit is never brought up anywhere else except Felix Rex youtube livestreams about what's going on in Ukraine. Putin is no more a thug than the NATO members constantly overthrowing other countries for regime change.

Posted by: ryukyu at February 28, 2022 04:22 PM (4n6fw)

322 310 >>Is stopping Putin important enough that US ground troops should be sent, yes or no?


I also think no.

But get ready because I think Pooty is going to start going scorched earth and killing Ukrainian civilians. He's not going to let this go.

Posted by: Black Orchid at February 28, 2022 04:22 PM (j9HX3)

323 296 NYC is lifting its retarded vax mandate. Boston, DC, Seattle and now NYC.

The lunacy is over.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at February 28, 2022 04:19 PM (OalnH)
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Yep. When the commie-infested cities jack in masks, you KNOW it's over. Also, that the polls must be appallingly bad. The question is how to rein in the Karenwaffen now that they're fully mobilized?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:22 PM (YqDXo)

324 We Are All Marshall of the Supreme Court.

Posted by: Louise Mensch at February 28, 2022 04:22 PM (mNhhD)

325 Better link for Nikole Hannah-Jones.

https://bit.ly/3hmNrwW

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Proprietor of the Outrage Outlet at February 28, 2022 04:23 PM (FVME7)

326 >> This actually good because global thermonuclear war is the only way to finally get rid of covid

Just because there's a nuclear war, we can't let our guard down about Covid. Masks and social distancing will be required in the fallout shelters.

Posted by: FEMA (actual guidance) at February 28, 2022 04:23 PM (Mzdiz)

327 I actually haven't gone into nuance with them b/c I'd prefer the US get out of the nation building game, too...
Posted by: Nova local at February 28, 2022 04:21 PM (exHjb)

???
What nation are we so called building here?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2022 04:23 PM (Irn0L)

328 NYC is lifting its retarded vax mandate. Boston, DC, Seattle and now NYC.

The lunacy is over.

Posted by: Joe XiDen
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I think that is naive. The lunacy is over ... for now but will come right back if needed... I meant WHEN needed.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 28, 2022 04:23 PM (iDcra)

329 There is literally no military action I am willing to support while Joe Biden is nominally in command of his faculties and fully commander in chief.

Not a single one.

Posted by: Oschisms at February 28, 2022 04:24 PM (BD0Jm)

330 "Getting involved in the Balkans was a catastrophe. It set the Russians against us for all and good."

We had a historic opportunity to reengage the Russians. The Democrats made sure they spent that opportunity demonizing them and ensuring we did not find a middle ground. They did that purely for domestic political reasons. Now we see the fruits of mistrust they sowed.

That was much more damaging, demonstrably, then a regional conflict in which by the way, post 9-11 we assisted the Russians with some of the Balkan issues.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 28, 2022 04:24 PM (VpIIl)

331
The question is how to rein in the Karenwaffen now that they're fully mobilized?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:22 PM (YqDXo)


"Here, have another glass of wine. And some Xanax"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 28, 2022 04:24 PM (/U27+)

332 They've been trying to signal that to Russia (if not outright telling Putin privately).
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He had a zoom call with pooty poot - like a two months ago. Told him what they wanted him to do and how to do it. He took the bait. Now they are going to play a game of Global thermo nuclear war, and claim he started it.

Or not.

Posted by: all kinds of exciting possibilities at February 28, 2022 04:24 PM (bPw72)

333 Better: "You invade Ukraine, I will do something you really won't like."

Let his imagination run riot. Don't tell him what you'll do; let him guess.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:18 PM (YqDXo)

He might nuzzle your hair, vlad, and make you extremely uncomfortable!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2022 04:24 PM (QCwhW)

334 Nah, that sounds too Biden-ey. Just open, empty bluster.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at February 28, 2022 04:22 PM (6FeV1)
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It would be from Biden, but not from Trump. Telling Putin exactly what you'll do lets him take measures to mitigate what you're threatening to do.

So how about: "Vlad, I wouldn't do that if I were you."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:24 PM (YqDXo)

335 307 I had a Polish landlady who, as a child, was a forced laborer along with her whole family during the Third Reich. She had some choice words about the Krauts, but you didn't want to get her going on the Russians.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 28, 2022 04:24 PM (lz5hY)

336 And that's the worst - when it's word of mouth friend to friend shit from the uneducated masses.
Posted by: clutch cargo - Now fortified with CPM-S90V at February 28, 2022 04:09 PM (wAnMi)
one guy, all whipped up into a frenzy accosted me today:
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT PUTIN PUSHING THE BUTTON//1//??
Me: Whatever. I'm ready to meet my maker. Who cares
Posted by: kallisto

push that little fucker like it's 21:59:59 on december 31st and you're a Moron that wants the first ONT first of the year hitting the f5 key. reset the place right proper.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at February 28, 2022 04:24 PM (IJES/)

337 Hello? Anyone? Remember me?
- Covid
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at February 28, 2022 04:00 PM (OalnH)

It is seeming very convenient, nyet?

Posted by: ... at February 28, 2022 04:24 PM (dscaa)

338 Obviously Trump told Putin to invade Ukraine to make Biden look bad.

Impeach Trump again now !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Ferd Berfall at February 28, 2022 04:24 PM (fa8iI)

339 I think that is naive. The lunacy is over ... for now but will come right back if needed... I meant WHEN needed.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 28, 2022 04:23 PM (iDcra)

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Aside from the Karen-est Karens, everyone is over the shit. No politician who wants to ever be elected again will bring it back.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at February 28, 2022 04:25 PM (OalnH)

340 328 NYC is lifting its retarded vax mandate. Boston, DC, Seattle and now NYC.

The lunacy is over.

Been lifted for 2 weeks here and I just went to the store...90% still masked... I even asked the clerk if we had to wear them... She said no but some people just won't give up on wearing them.

Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2022 04:25 PM (J8ILO)

341 I think that is naive. The lunacy is over ... for now but will come right back if needed... I meant WHEN needed.


they can try

I don't think it will work again, honestly. and I'm a negative person lol ask anyone

Posted by: Black Orchid at February 28, 2022 04:25 PM (j9HX3)

342 We had a historic opportunity to reengage the Russians. The Democrats made sure they spent that opportunity demonizing them and ensuring we did not find a middle ground. They did that purely for domestic political reasons. Now we see the fruits of mistrust they sowed.
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What the hell was I, a joke? Was I a JOKE to you!!!

Posted by: Reset Button (overcharge) at February 28, 2022 04:25 PM (YG/WQ)

343 I'm not sure when life transitioned to perpetual fucking high school (or why). Maybe Facebook. Ace says 6 years, not sure, Seinfeld did an episode with Aids ribbon bullying. I am sure of this- fuck em all.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at February 28, 2022 04:25 PM (9KXDf)

344 WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT PUTIN PUSHING THE BUTTON//1//??
Me: Whatever. I'm ready to meet my maker. Who cares
Posted by: kallisto


That is where I'm at too.

Posted by: Archer at February 28, 2022 04:25 PM (gmo/4)

345 There is literally no military action I am willing to support while Joe Biden is nominally in command of his faculties and fully commander in chief.
___________

Can you imagine trying to be a recruiter right now, with F. Joe Biden bumbling around the White Nursing Home?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:26 PM (YqDXo)

346
Last night on Denninger's forum, they were dusting off the maps and projections of Russian nuke targets in the CONUS.

East Coast from Maine to Florida is covered with bullseyes. I was surprised at just how many bullseyes were in my state of SC, here.

Also fallout pattern projections were interesting as well.

My conclusion is that Dr. Strangelove was on to something: get in the mineshafts, baby!

Posted by: FEMA (actual guidance) at February 28, 2022 04:26 PM (Mzdiz)

347
Thanks! You may have a lemon bar.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 28, 2022 04:10 PM (GbPPJ)
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*wonders how AtC knew that lemon bars are my kryptonite?*

Thanks!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at February 28, 2022 04:26 PM (5pTK/)

348 The night I lose a moment's sleep over "Uke" will be a bright one indeed.

Posted by: ... at February 28, 2022 04:26 PM (dscaa)

349 think that is naive. The lunacy is over ... for now but will come right back if needed... I meant WHEN needed.



Sigh, I do not think that sick fuck biden has lifted the mask mandate in DOD facilties?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2022 04:26 PM (Irn0L)

350 Conservatives, like liberals, are locked into a Cold War paradigm of our role in Europe (and largely ignorant of our doings in Ukraine in particular). The lens through which they filter all events distorts the situation.

I cringe sometimes when I see the bemoaning of the always feeling, never thinking Liberals. As if Conservatives are any different. It's all just one never ending battle to the death of Political Mad Libs, over nothing more than who gets to fill in the blanks.

Posted by: Really ? at February 28, 2022 04:26 PM (Eizfo)

351
I had a Polish landlady who, as a child, was a forced laborer along with her whole family during the Third Reich. She had some choice words about the Krauts, but you didn't want to get her going on the Russians.
Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at February 28, 2022 04:24 PM (lz5hY)


Q: A Pole has a gun with two bullets. He's menaced at the same time by a German and a Russian. Who does he shoot first.

A: The German. Business before pleasure.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 28, 2022 04:27 PM (/U27+)

352 This actually good because global thermonuclear war is the only way to finally get rid of covid
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Remember to socialy distance and wear your masks in the underground bunker

Posted by: DHS, CDC, FDA, NIH Experts at February 28, 2022 04:27 PM (iDcra)

353 Did Xi just pee in Pooty's coke?

Posted by: wth at February 28, 2022 04:27 PM (v0R5T)

354 Zelemsky is calling for international volunteers including pilots. Another Abraham Lincoln brigade. Any takers?

Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at February 28, 2022 04:27 PM (a9W6T)

355 339 Aside from the Karen-est Karens, everyone is over the shit. No politician who wants to ever be elected again will bring it back.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at February 28, 2022 04:25 PM (OalnH)

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They probably won't be able to replicate their success with covid again with any plague thing that's not actually leading to bodies in the streets, but they will look for more FEAR to get people to OBEY.

Their talk about spinning back to climate change last year was evidence of that. The problem is that most of what they come up with doesn't affect the day to day lives of most people. Screaming about invisible viruses that are going to kill you is different from "in 50 years Obama's mansions are going to be underwater, for sure, and stuff". I don't know what could come close to the success of covid again for them. There's probably something, but I'm not coming up with it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 28, 2022 04:27 PM (LvTSG)

356 How many Ukranians would deploy to defend our border?

I'm just really tired of this game, you can condemn Russia for what it's doing and at the same time not want to get involved.

I have a feeling though we are going to be there on some UN boondoggle because I can see Russia taking the gloves off and Biden is willing to roll the dice on anything to get out of his 30% approval rating.

Posted by: Blago at February 28, 2022 04:28 PM (Ab9hi)

357 Watching in real- time the death of big tech and their big government-backed power.

Notice how they're all-hands-on-deck on "canceling " Russia?

What if it doesn't work? The all-powerful Big Tech pixel power fails to bring the bear to heel?

Then what?

Posted by: Well at February 28, 2022 04:28 PM (hRBhw)

358 Have the We Stand With Ukraine corporate commercials started? That's when you know that shit is real.

Posted by: ... at February 28, 2022 04:28 PM (dscaa)

359 Remember to socialy distance and wear your masks in the underground bunker
Posted by: DHS, CDC, FDA, NIH Experts at February 28, 2022 04:27 PM (iDcra)

Yeah, that was priceless.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2022 04:28 PM (QCwhW)

360 "This actually good because global thermonuclear war is the only way to finally get rid of covid"

but you'll still have to wear the mask, because it can stop radiation contamination.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 28, 2022 04:28 PM (Cus5s)

361 Aside from the Karen-est Karens, everyone is over the shit. No politician who wants to ever be elected again will bring it back.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant
===

Not in many blue states like Kalifornia for instance 65%+ still want everyone to wear a mask. But hey whatever you think.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 28, 2022 04:28 PM (iDcra)

362 270 I usually blame this phenomenon on Harry Potter: we have an entire generation whose holy book is based on the idea that words actually *do* things rather than *mean* things. And so we have an increasing amount of our "elites" who think that writing something makes it so.
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It's like modeling a phenomenon. Modeling doesn't influence the phenomenon, it merely tries to describe it, with accuracy that depends critically on the model. Using a dodgy model to forecast future results is madness. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Good description. People act as lawyers with a client in arguments using facts selectively to try to buttress their narrative.

Seen this in my own field. Better to get as much information as possible and then make deductions as to reality.

Posted by: whig at February 28, 2022 04:29 PM (Iq9dF)

363 327 I actually haven't gone into nuance with them b/c I'd prefer the US get out of the nation building game, too...
Posted by: Nova local at February 28, 2022 04:21 PM (exHjb)

???
What nation are we so called building here?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2022 04:23 PM (Irn0L)

The general concept - which we've tried covertly and even sometimes overly in countries and failed...

Posted by: Nova local at February 28, 2022 04:29 PM (exHjb)

364 354 Zelemsky is calling for international volunteers including pilots. Another Abraham Lincoln brigade. Any takers?
Posted by: exodus 21:22-25 at February 28, 2022 04:27 PM (a9W6T)

Supposedly there are VAST numbers, Vast I tell you!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 28, 2022 04:29 PM (QCwhW)

365
All right, boys! We's a-goin' toe to toe with the Rooskies in all-out ncyoocular combat!

Posted by: Slim Pickens at February 28, 2022 04:29 PM (Mzdiz)

366 I think one of the things that makes me most want to support Ukraine is the number of blatantly incorrect "facts" about Ukraine that I constantly see show up in the comments here in an attempt to convince me that we shouldn't support Ukraine.

Posted by: junior at February 28, 2022 04:29 PM (txVN9)

367
"If he fires one, I'll fire one!"

"Fire one!"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 28, 2022 04:29 PM (/U27+)

368 Yes, go for it.

Hickville, TN ain't on the priority list.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 28, 2022 04:29 PM (YA914)

369 I'm just really tired of this game, you can condemn Russia for what it's doing and at the same time not want to get involved.
____________

Memo to the world: look to your own defense, OK?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:29 PM (YqDXo)

370 The other upside is that it seems to be putting some starch in the West, and giving China an example of how badly things can go wrong. They are not in our club and we screwed up by giving them a key, but we can take that key away. We (the west) are not as soft as Russia and China would like to think. Yet.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at February 28, 2022 04:29 PM (Q1tCm)

371 361 Not in many blue states like Kalifornia for instance 65%+ still want everyone to wear a mask. But hey whatever you think.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 28, 2022 04:28 PM (iDcra)

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Are these the people fleeing California to live in Texas and Florida where far fewer people wear masks?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 28, 2022 04:29 PM (LvTSG)

372 These asshoes are trying to convince me that Ukraine is of major strategic importance to the US. Fuck you, it is not. And I don't care whether Ukraine is a ward of the EU, or a ward of Russia. But don't piss on my boots and tell me it's raining. You removed Moscow supported President and installed the one who hated Moscow, who made divisive policy and tried to disenfranchise 1/2 the population of Ukraine and then told me it's the peak of Democracy. No it ain't.

Posted by: runner, dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 04:30 PM (V13WU)

373 366 I think one of the things that makes me most want to support Ukraine is the number of blatantly incorrect "facts" about Ukraine that I constantly see show up in the comments here in an attempt to convince me that we shouldn't support Ukraine.


junior you are so so right. oh well. it's really exhausting.

Posted by: Black Orchid at February 28, 2022 04:30 PM (j9HX3)

374 Sigh, I do not think that sick fuck biden has lifted the mask mandate in DOD facilties?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2022 04:26 PM (Irn0L)


We are still masked up at the airport, per executive order.

Posted by: Jordan61 at February 28, 2022 04:30 PM (Ez6QX)

375 Anyone vaguely familiar with Russian battlefield tactics realizes this is far from over. They attack in phases, exploit weaknesses and up the brutality. They do this to uncover resistance, familiarize themselves with tactics/capabilities, lay siege to key areas and then destroy the opposition, brutally if need be. The fact they are bringing in Chechen troops is a clue. It's going to get a lot worse, before it gets better.

They've met a lot more resistance then expected, the Ukrainians know their tactics and their supply lines for the first wave has been horrendous. But eventually they are going to correct that.

Posted by: Marcus T at February 28, 2022 04:30 PM (VpIIl)

376

too exhausting to close my tag!

Posted by: Black Orchid at February 28, 2022 04:30 PM (j9HX3)

377 I will repair to the Barrel. wait what is that in Ukrainian?

Posted by: Black Orchid at February 28, 2022 04:30 PM (j9HX3)

378 So is Joe gonna claim he cured covid tomorrow on his SOTU slur fest ? bet he does.....

Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2022 04:30 PM (J8ILO)

379 I do agree that why should I care about Ukraine when right here in our own country we have people committing suicide because of an overzealous political persecution for trespassing?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 28, 2022 04:30 PM (coYBh)

380 " simple, automatic Rejectivism is not an irrational response to a Regime that lies, or is completely 100% wrong, this often. If they lied only once in a while, or were wrong once in a while, I'd say automatic Rejectivism was an overreaction and a bad strategy, as it would usually result in the Rejectivist winding up on the wrong side of the truth.

But when the Regime is almost always lying or almost always wrong, just taking the opposite side without even thinking about it will put you on the right side of the truth 75%, 80% of the time."

It's not just that they are constantly wrong and never in doubt (as the saying goes) - it's that they NEVER ADMIT WRONG. Not once, not ever. They may apologize when forced to, but that's not because they're wrong or did anything bad, it's because they were caught and embarrassed, which is ultimately OUR fault, somehow, for noticing.

So yeah, it's hard to believe a word even when they accidentally stumble into something correct by sheer accident - for one thing, it's not because they learned anything, and for another they'll quite likely to repudiate themselves the moment the "wrong sort of people" approve of the statement.

Posted by: nightfly at February 28, 2022 04:30 PM (KT41q)

381 369 Memo to the world: look to your own defense, OK?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:29 PM (YqDXo)

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"But, our opiate to the masses (single payer healthcare) will have to be sacrificed to make it work! How will we placate the vox populi if we can't just put them in lines to see a doctor without charging them?!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 28, 2022 04:31 PM (LvTSG)

382 I don't know what could come close to the success of covid again for them. There's probably something, but I'm not coming up with it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Try Global Economic Depression. More likely case in the next several years.

Posted by: whig at February 28, 2022 04:31 PM (Iq9dF)

383 @356 How many Ukranians would deploy to defend our border?

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Probably quite a few if you promised them American citizenship.

Posted by: junior at February 28, 2022 04:31 PM (txVN9)

384 "WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT PUTIN PUSHING THE BUTTON//1//??
Me: Whatever. I'm ready to meet my maker. Who cares
Posted by: kallisto "

"There is literally no military action I am willing to support while Joe Biden is nominally in command of his faculties and fully commander in chief. "

bofa deez !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (DuiUU) at February 28, 2022 04:31 PM (DuiUU)

385 Not in many blue states like Kalifornia for instance 65%+ still want everyone to wear a mask. But hey whatever you think.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 28, 2022 04:28 PM (iDcra)
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That's LA and (especially) SF. Masks are now rare in further south of LA in SoCal.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:31 PM (YqDXo)

386 Find it pretty damned ironic that the assholes are all of a sudden concerned with territorial integrity.

Posted by: kraken at February 28, 2022 04:31 PM (Vr12I)

387 The fight against Putin was over when the junta stole the election and then stopped US oil drilling. Renewing drilling and arming ring states with legitimate armies, like Poland, Romania and Scandinavia, is all that is required to stop Putin. Undermining his puppet government-to-be in Ukraine is a linger term project, but those CIA clowns need something to keep them busy and out of American domestic politics.

Other than Mitt Romney and the Cheney faction of the GOPe (two or three people), no leaders want American military involvement in the Russian invasion.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at February 28, 2022 04:31 PM (9nadL)

388 Putin still had a chance, until Greg Abbott banned vodka. Then it was game over.

Posted by: Hands at February 28, 2022 04:31 PM (786Ro)

389 "If he fires one, I'll fire one!"

"Fire one!"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 28, 2022 04:29 PM (/U27+)


Another good movie!

Posted by: Archer at February 28, 2022 04:31 PM (gmo/4)

390 382 I don't know what could come close to the success of covid again for them. There's probably something, but I'm not coming up with it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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Try Global Economic Depression. More likely case in the next several years.
Posted by: whig at February 28, 2022 04:31 PM (Iq9dF)

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That doesn't make people compliant. That makes them rowdy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 28, 2022 04:31 PM (LvTSG)

391 Out: masks in school
In: hide under your desks

Posted by: wth at February 28, 2022 04:32 PM (v0R5T)

392 369 I'm just really tired of this game, you can condemn Russia for what it's doing and at the same time not want to get involved.

Amen.

Posted by: Nova local at February 28, 2022 04:32 PM (exHjb)

393 Of all the things I liked about Trump, the main thing I didn't like was how he approached Putin. Putin is a snake and needs to be put down. I respect everyone who disagrees with supporting Ukraine from a legitimately conservative position, but those who are spouting off Putin's lies as if they are true don't know what's going on in Ukraine. I have family currently trapped in Ukraine, so I have a different position, but they've been in the country since 1998 and have been preaching the dangers of Putin for TWENTY FUCKING YEARS. The left suddenly discovered it just because they wanted to go after Trump, not because they give a damn about Ukraine.

Also I should note that the government in Ukraine responsible for Hunter Biden and for interfering with 2016 is NOT the government in charge today. Zelenskyy was elected in 2019 and is much more like Trump than his predecessors were. The Ukrainian government has been corrupt, but by in large that corruption is nearly universally when they are corrupted by pro-dogshiteating-putin cocksuckers than those opposed to Russian influence.

Is it worth sending US troops over to die in Ukraine? No. But if putin fails, we all win.

Posted by: Some1 at February 28, 2022 04:32 PM (goNKK)

394 Ian S., you may also have a lemon bar.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 28, 2022 04:15 PM (GbPPJ)


Thank you, Your Excellency! May physicsgeek increase the capacity of the lines from the reactors.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 28, 2022 04:32 PM (ZGrMX)

395 Are these the people fleeing California to live in Texas and Florida where far fewer people wear masks?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 28, 2022 04:29 PM (LvTSG)
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No idea what you're talking about....

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at February 28, 2022 04:32 PM (5pTK/)

396 The general concept - which we've tried covertly and even sometimes overly in countries and failed...
Posted by: Nova local at February 28, 2022 04:29 PM (exHjb)


Yeah but that is not what is going on here.
You can hate nation building
You can hate the politics of this Ukrainian Gov

But this is not really about Ukraine.
This is about naked uncontrolled russian aggression and also what signal it sends to the Chicoms

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2022 04:32 PM (Irn0L)

397 Watching in real- time the death of big tech and their big government-backed power.

Notice how they're all-hands-on-deck on "canceling " Russia?

What if it doesn't work? The all-powerful Big Tech pixel power fails to bring the bear to heel?

Then what?
Posted by: Well


No more pronhub for Boriski.

Posted by: rickb223 Dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 04:32 PM (Hica+)

398 Are these the people fleeing California to live in Texas and Florida where far fewer people wear masks?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa
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No those are the people that are staying because they think Newsome is doing a great job and $6 gas is wonderful.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 28, 2022 04:33 PM (iDcra)

399 You asshoes told me that the reason why we had to bomb Serbia, and divide Yougoslavia into bits was they horrible, horrible treatment of Muslims by Serbs. Oh really ?? How did that start exactly after 50-60 years of peace and quiet ?

Posted by: runner, dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 04:33 PM (V13WU)

400 thank you for your comment, Some1

I will add prayers for your family to my little list here.

you are so right, thank you.

Posted by: Black Orchid at February 28, 2022 04:34 PM (j9HX3)

401 That's LA and (especially) SF. Masks are now rare in further south of LA in SoCal.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:31 PM (YqDXo)
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Where we used to live, Bakersfield, was very much "no mask required." However, in the couple of months since we left, masks have become a lot more prevalent. No idea why.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at February 28, 2022 04:34 PM (5pTK/)

402 356 How many Ukranians would deploy to defend our border?

A surefire way of knowing whether you're being sold BS is to reverse it like that.

Posted by: Oschisms at February 28, 2022 04:34 PM (BD0Jm)

403 As Tater has pointed out, CNN's ratings go up during a war. The media as an industry has a vested interest in cheerleading a US-Russian war. But this ain't US vs. Iraq - this is the big leagues.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at February 28, 2022 04:34 PM (HmZuC)

404 the number of blatantly incorrect "facts" about Ukraine t
........

Are you trying to tell me they didn't invent the ukulele?

Posted by: wth at February 28, 2022 04:34 PM (v0R5T)

405 Come to me BlackOrchid

Posted by: The Barrel at February 28, 2022 04:34 PM (dscaa)

406 muh Ruzzian Aggrezhion....

Posted by: runner, dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 04:35 PM (V13WU)

407 Americans fought in the Spanish Civil War, Americans fought in both world wars before the US got involved.

Volunteering to go fight in foreign wars is a well established American tradition. I wonder how many will go and fight for Ukraine.

Posted by: 29Victor at February 28, 2022 04:35 PM (BJKQV)

408 My niece and nephew were adopted from Ukraine about 12 years ago. They have dual citizenship apparently. The Ukrainian Embassy called my sister and brother in law and asked if my nephew wanted to join the Ukrainian army since he's 18. The answer to that is, of course, hell no but also, my sister explained, he's got learning and mental disabilities so he's not really a good fit...

Me: he's exactly who they want

Posted by: Roxanne, Roxanne at February 28, 2022 04:35 PM (szWS4)

409 The fight against Putin was over when the junta stole the election and then stopped US oil drilling.
____________

Russia is basically financing this war from oil they're selling to Europe and ... to us.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:35 PM (YqDXo)

410 "..they will finally have the opportunity to fight in one of the many, many, many, many wars they are very passionate about, this time with no convenient excuses about why they can't personally attend.

So pass the good news on to them! I'm sure they'll be thrilled."

You misspelled killed.

Posted by: Joe Mama at February 28, 2022 04:36 PM (WmGrA)

411 Thanks! You may have a lemon bar.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 28, 2022 04:10 PM (GbPPJ)

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE LEMONS ARE QUITE SOUR

Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at February 28, 2022 04:36 PM (dscaa)

412 Ukraine, the new MacGuffin proving why the other side are idiots.

Posted by: goodluckduck at February 28, 2022 04:36 PM (pCXlW)

413 Americans fought in the Spanish Civil War
___________

American COMMUNISTS

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:36 PM (YqDXo)

414
push that little fucker like it's 21:59:59 on december 31st and you're a Moron that wants the first ONT first of the year hitting the f5 key. reset the place right proper.

Good point: what ever happened to those freaks who used to run out the countdown to nuclear holocost clock every time a defense budget passed?

Posted by: Auspex at February 28, 2022 04:36 PM (Xo3T0)

415 I'm not a smart man, but...
All the wrong people are supporting Ukraine. All of them.

Posted by: MkY at February 28, 2022 04:36 PM (cPGH3)

416 Posted by: Blago at February 28, 2022 04:20 PM (Ab9hi)

Yep.

Why even support Ukraine as a "4"? They vacillated on NATO until their prognosis was terminal. That's not how insurance policies/treaties work. Never mind that NATO is a bad deal for the US, with the US really being the backbone, and the US taxpayer far outspending those of much more at-risk countries. And for what? You really think Belgium is coming to our aid if an enemy somehow makes it to our shores some day?

The human tragedy in all war is terrible. I feel for the families caught in the middle. But in the bigger picture it is by no means unpatriotic or immoral to sit this one out.

Posted by: turnout man at February 28, 2022 04:36 PM (wx6iv)

417 The fight against Putin was over when the junta stole the election and then stopped US oil drilling.

That was a green light to putin for sure

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2022 04:36 PM (Irn0L)

418 Find it pretty damned ironic that the assholes are all of a sudden concerned with territorial integrity.
Posted by: kraken at February 28, 2022 04:31 PM (Vr12I)


yeah, remember when dividing Iraq into 3 countries was seriously discussed by the geniuses at the AEI ? I do.

Posted by: runner, dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 04:36 PM (V13WU)

419 Never get into a land war in Asia.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 28, 2022 04:36 PM (coYBh)

420 Russia exports $16 million in vodka to the United States annually.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 28, 2022 04:37 PM (YA914)

421 I'm not a smart man, but...
All the wrong people are supporting Ukraine. All of them.




==


and there you have it

Posted by: runner, dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 04:37 PM (V13WU)

422 Hell no. And I think I am one of the more pro-ukraine commenters who always wanted them in NATO.

Also a hard no on rebuilding funds and special funds and emergency funds.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is junta manifest at February 28, 2022 04:21 PM (Q1tCm)


But Money Spent on Ukraine will benefit the US economy!!!
Not to mention some of the 25% in graft sent back to the Washington DC Establishment. Only some of the 25%, most of it gets squirreled away in foreign bank accounts.

Posted by: rd at February 28, 2022 04:37 PM (Z32m1)

423 I'm sure the Russians are taking volunteers too if anyone wants to go fight GloboHomo.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at February 28, 2022 04:37 PM (UHVv4)

424 If you look at a timeline, Putin gets frisky whenever oil goes to $90-$100 per barrel.
Which it didn't when DJT was in office.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 28, 2022 04:37 PM (jTmQV)

425 Russia is basically financing this war from oil they're selling to Europe and ... to us.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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Aw come on man. Biden only imported 250-260 million barrels in 2021.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 28, 2022 04:37 PM (iDcra)

426 420 Russia exports $16 million in vodka to the United States annually.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 28, 2022 04:37 PM (YA914)

I prefer Texas vodka

Posted by: It's me donna at February 28, 2022 04:37 PM (J8ILO)

427 389 "If he fires one, I'll fire one!"

"Fire one!"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 28, 2022 04:29 PM (/U27+)

Another good movie!

Posted by: Archer at February 28, 2022 04:31 PM (gmo/4)
__________

It was, but I don't remember the name of the movie. Help a brother out?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:38 PM (YqDXo)

428 396 The general concept - which we've tried covertly and even sometimes overly in countries and failed...
Posted by: Nova local at February 28, 2022 04:29 PM (exHjb)


Yeah but that is not what is going on here.
You can hate nation building
You can hate the politics of this Ukrainian Gov

But this is not really about Ukraine.
This is about naked uncontrolled russian aggression and also what signal it sends to the Chicoms
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2022 04:32 PM (Irn0L)

See, you missed my original point. I don't want to explain when you might want to go into countries pre-emptively b/c I don't even really buy those strategies most times anymore. Thus, I let my kids keep the simple "A should never invade B. Period" thoughts and "Ukraine good, Russia bad." I know Ukraine isn't 100% blameless, but in this case, I don't think it matters even if the "smart" folks think it might...

Posted by: Nova local at February 28, 2022 04:38 PM (exHjb)

429 I can see Russia taking the gloves off and Biden is willing to roll the dice on anything to get out of his 30% approval rating.

Posted by: Blago at February 28, 2022 04:28 PM (Ab9hi)


and the joke is:

DM: You rolled a seven. You start a land ware in Eurasia. In the Winter.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 28, 2022 04:38 PM (xhaym)

430 415 I'm not a smart man, but...
All the wrong people are supporting Ukraine. All of them.


hey!

/fromTheBarrel

Posted by: Black Orchid at February 28, 2022 04:39 PM (j9HX3)

431 yeah, remember when dividing Iraq into 3 countries was seriously discussed by the geniuses at the AEI ? I do.

That actually does make some sense - the major ethnic groups in Iraq don't really have a lot in common. I'm kind of surprised the place hasn't gone Balkan yet.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 28, 2022 04:39 PM (ZGrMX)

432 Aw come on man. Biden only imported 250-260 million barrels in 2021.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 28, 2022 04:37 PM (iDcra)
____________
I've read we're buying $20 million worth of oil daily from Russia.

Thanks, F. Joe!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:39 PM (YqDXo)

433 Russia exports $16 million in vodka to the United States annually.


==

Only $16 M ?? That's like a summer party season at the Obamas.

Posted by: runner, dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 04:39 PM (V13WU)

434 Rejectivism. So that's the 'word' for what I've been feeling for at least a dozen years or so now. Thanks!

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 28, 2022 04:40 PM (sAmhv)

435 The ideal strategy remains what it always is -- taking each claim on its own merits and evaluating it, without bias according to whoever said it.

Ain't nobody got time for that.

Posted by: DaveA at February 28, 2022 04:40 PM (FhXTo)

436 I've read we're buying $20 million worth of oil daily from Russia.

And that we were buying zero in 2019.

Posted by: Ian S. at February 28, 2022 04:40 PM (ZGrMX)

437 I had no idea that many people were laundering money thru Ukraine

Posted by: REDACTED at February 28, 2022 04:40 PM (us2H3)

438 Our entire pathetic political class depends on war, that was Trump's greatest sin - not starting one.

Posted by: Indignatio Vindicatorem at February 28, 2022 04:40 PM (oWBc3)

439 Russia exports $16 million in vodka to the United States annually.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 28, 2022 04:37 PM (YA914)


And about $how many Hundreds of Billions $ in Oil every year?

Posted by: rd at February 28, 2022 04:40 PM (Z32m1)

440 The fight against Putin was over when the junta stole the election and then stopped US oil drilling.

That was a green light to putin for sure
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Well there was a zoom call Dec 7 2021.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy6ULO_jr88

Then the lil incursion comment at the white house podium by the idiot in chief.

I mean what else do you need.....

Posted by: they baited him and he took it at February 28, 2022 04:40 PM (sdNdY)

441 This is about naked uncontrolled russian aggression and also what signal it sends to the Chicoms
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2022 04:32 PM (Irn0L)

Well... but it's not. See, that's the thing. No one talks about the CIA and the western European weenies overthrowing the Ukraine govt., and installing one inimical to Russia. Does that maybe play a part?

Posted by: MkY at February 28, 2022 04:40 PM (cPGH3)

442 Why did Putin start this crap in the winter? To have more leverage vis a vis oil exports? Or to get in his licks before F. Joe Biden rolls those cosmic snake eyes? Not that "Heels Up" Harris would be any impediment.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:41 PM (YqDXo)

443 I can see Russia taking the gloves off and Biden is willing to roll the dice on anything to get out of his 30% approval rating.

Posted by: Blago at February 28, 2022 04:28 PM (Ab9hi)

and the joke is:

DM: You rolled a seven. You start a land ware in Eurasia. In the Winter.
Posted by: Kindltot

Biden needs to roll a 20. Instead, rolls a three.

Posted by: rickb223 Dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 04:41 PM (Hica+)

444 Look fats. If that chump Trump hadn't have stopped Putin from invading Ukinstovebergaine for 4 years he wouldn't have invaded it now. It is all Trump's fault.

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 28, 2022 04:41 PM (iDcra)

445 436 I've read we're buying $20 million worth of oil daily from Russia.

And that we were buying zero in 2019.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 28, 2022 04:40 PM (ZGrMX)

========

Is that true? We were a net exporter of energy, but didn't mean we imported nothing. It's just that our exports were greater than our imports.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 28, 2022 04:41 PM (LvTSG)

446 That actually does make some sense - the major ethnic groups in Iraq don't really have a lot in common. I'm kind of surprised the place hasn't gone Balkan yet.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 28, 2022 04:39 PM (ZGrMX)

Who told you they don't have a lot in common ? Same people who told you Iraq has to be divided ?

Posted by: runner, dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 04:41 PM (V13WU)

447 " I had no idea that many people were laundering money thru Ukraine"

OUR money. US taxpayers.
Grifting sons of bitches...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 28, 2022 04:41 PM (jTmQV)

448 Only $16 M ?? That's like a summer party season at the Obamas.
Posted by: runner, dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 04:39 PM (V13WU)


Yeah that sounds low.

Posted by: Jordan61 at February 28, 2022 04:41 PM (Ez6QX)

449 The ideal strategy remains what it always is -- taking each claim on its own merits and evaluating it, without bias according to whoever said it.
____________

Eschew the genetic fallacy!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:41 PM (YqDXo)

450 And another thing, if Europe isn't even willing to stop buying oil from the Russians, why the hell should we be willing to sacrifice US soldiers over there?

I'm reading where Russian banks aren't being cut off from taking oil payments because Europeans don't want to pay more.



Posted by: Blago at February 28, 2022 04:41 PM (Ab9hi)

451 I had no idea that many people were laundering money thru Ukraine
Posted by: REDACTED at February 28, 2022 04:40 PM (us2H3)


It is a MAJOR drug trafficking hub.

Posted by: runner, dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 04:41 PM (V13WU)

452 Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:38 PM (YqDXo)

Bedford Incident?

Posted by: rd at February 28, 2022 04:42 PM (Z32m1)

453 My NeoCon buddies and I have had enough of this war in Ukraine and have finally decided to do something about it, David Frum, Adam Kinzinger, Max Boot and I have decided to form an elite fighting force called the Cohort of Uber Konservative Commandos, or C.U.C.K. and will be deploying to Ukraine immediately. Of course, once we're there we will take up a position at a ski resort in the Carpathians and head to the digital front lines where we will bombard Twitter will a near-constant barrage of hot takes until Putin is forced to surrender!

Posted by: Bill Kristol at February 28, 2022 04:42 PM (eRVYd)

454 446 That actually does make some sense - the major ethnic groups in Iraq don't really have a lot in common. I'm kind of surprised the place hasn't gone Balkan yet.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 28, 2022 04:39 PM (ZGrMX)

Who told you they don't have a lot in common ? Same people who told you Iraq has to be divided ?
Posted by: runner, dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 04:41 PM (V13WU)

Their attempts to kill each other. And the separatist movement in Kurdistan.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 28, 2022 04:42 PM (z5Vrg)

455 Jennifer Griffin's husband works for NPR. So, she know what she's talking about.

/sarc

Posted by: Marcus T at February 28, 2022 04:42 PM (QAB5x)

456 This is about everyone getting to pretend to role play an Avengers movie by pretending to join the Ukraine Foreign Legion. Mind numbing.

Posted by: Indignatio Vindicatorem at February 28, 2022 04:42 PM (oWBc3)

457 The Russians are coming!

The Russians are coming!

Or, maybe they are just breathing hard.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at February 28, 2022 04:42 PM (vcOmj)

458 Col. Macgregor"s 4 minutes on FOX last night was the truth.
The Neocons and libs went bat shit crazy.

https://video.foxnews.com/v/6299099588001#sp=show-clips
Posted by: Joe Donskoi at February 28, 2022 04:15 PM (6BTho)
***

Not sure I buy some of what he says...I wish I could do some digging from here.
But...if he is accurate about what he said Putin would accept, (and I think he is correct about no interest in westward expansion) then guys like Kinzinger shooting his mouth off in the media just makes this worse, and more dangerous. This administration does everything by polls If Kinzinger's ilk muddy the waters long enough, it will backfire badly.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 28, 2022 04:42 PM (axyOa)

459 There is no possible way that $16 million annually for vodka is correct.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 28, 2022 04:42 PM (GbPPJ)

460 That actually does make some sense - the major ethnic groups in Iraq don't really have a lot in common. I'm kind of surprised the place hasn't gone Balkan yet.
Posted by: Ian S. at February 28, 2022 04:39 PM (ZGrMX)


It's a horrible idea which would have created a far worse situation. There's no way you create an independent Kurdistan that doesn't immediately plunge Iran and Turkey into nasty civil wars and eventual pogroms. And there's no way to split sunni/shia without splitting apart tribes, and the massive relocation of people.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at February 28, 2022 04:43 PM (wmDcS)

461 hiya

Posted by: JT at February 28, 2022 04:43 PM (arJlL)

462 I'm really getting tired of this idea that if we don't stop Putin in Ukraine, Poland is next.
__________

Poland is a NATO member, Ukraine is not. Invading Poland would open a whole other set of problems for Putin, ones that he really can't afford right now. He won't go there -- not unless he's literally lost his mind.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at February 28, 2022 04:44 PM (k4dH2)

463 Biden is President Chaos.

Everything he does creates chaos and disorder, and makes everything worse.

Just by random chance, you would think some of his decisions would fix things, make something better.

Name ONE THING that Biden has done, proclaimed, supported or Exec ordered that has made anything....better.
Exit question: Do you think this is by accident or is there a plan here?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at February 28, 2022 04:44 PM (vcOmj)

464 Why did Putin start this crap in the winter? To have more leverage vis a vis oil exports? Or to get in his licks before F. Joe Biden rolls those cosmic snake eyes? Not that "Heels Up" Harris would be any impediment.
===
Biden zoom called him on Dec 7 and removed any doubts putin might have had about US resolve.

Posted by: obviously at February 28, 2022 04:44 PM (3f/sF)

465 My fear is that our idiot in chief will do something stupid and get a bunch of us killed. Is this an unreasonable concern?

Posted by: kraken at February 28, 2022 04:44 PM (Vr12I)

466 >>447 " I had no idea that many people were laundering money thru Ukraine"

OUR money. US taxpayers.
Grifting sons of bitches...
Posted by: gourmand du jour

It's almost like Soros and Schwab should be supporting The Uke right now. Oh wait! They are.

Posted by: Capital Eff at February 28, 2022 04:44 PM (GYllL)

467 No one talks about the CIA and the western European weenies overthrowing the Ukraine govt., and installing one inimical to Russia. Does that maybe play a part?
Posted by: MkY at February 28, 2022 04:40 PM (cPGH3)

And of course you have proof of that right?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2022 04:44 PM (Irn0L)

468 431 yeah, remember when dividing Iraq into 3 countries was seriously discussed by the geniuses at the AEI ? I do.

That actually does make some sense - the major ethnic groups in Iraq don't really have a lot in common. I'm kind of surprised the place hasn't gone Balkan yet.
Posted by: Ian S.



I'm too lazy to confirm but modern Iraq was invented after WW1 from the ashes of the Ottaman Empire. So, thank the Brits for that one.

Posted by: Puddleglum at February 28, 2022 04:44 PM (sAmhv)

469 And another thing, if Europe isn't even willing to stop buying oil from the Russians, why the hell should we be willing to sacrifice US soldiers over there?

I'm reading where Russian banks aren't being cut off from taking oil payments because Europeans don't want to pay more.
Posted by: Blago at February 28, 2022 04:41 PM (Ab9hi)


The US and Canada are also buying Russian Oil. We both have not cut off the Russian Banks that deal in oil contracts.

Posted by: rd at February 28, 2022 04:44 PM (Z32m1)

470
419 Never get into a land war in Asia.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at February 28, 2022 04:36 PM (coYBh)

You are aware that considering Asia a continent is racist, right?

Posted by: Auspex at February 28, 2022 04:44 PM (Xo3T0)

471 There is no possible way that $16 million annually for vodka is correct.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at February 28, 2022 04:42 PM (GbPPJ)

**Looks at Stoli inventory on the shelf**

Concur!

Posted by: Diogenes at February 28, 2022 04:45 PM (axyOa)

472 Napoleon strung along Poland as a alliance when he invaded Russia.

Posted by: Skip at February 28, 2022 04:45 PM (2JoB8)

473 461 hiya
Posted by: JT at February 28, 2022 04:43 PM (arJlL)

Yo. 'sup?

Posted by: kraken at February 28, 2022 04:45 PM (Vr12I)

474 TO ARMS!!!

*picks up iPhone*

*tweets a single Ukrainian Flag Emoji*

Posted by: Bill Kristol, True Conservative Warrior Pundit at February 28, 2022 04:45 PM (eRVYd)

475 >>Well... but it's not. See, that's the thing. No one talks about the CIA and the western European weenies overthrowing the Ukraine govt., and installing one inimical to Russia. Does that maybe play a part?

Just last month after he helped put down an uprising in Kazakhstan, Putin made a statement where he flat out said he would not allow anymore "color revolutions" in countries aligned with Russia. He's well aware of what the west, largely led by the US, have been doing in places like Kazakhstan, Belarus and Ukraine even if the American public is not.

https://tinyurl.com/2p88appw

It's a mistake to think what is going on right now in Ukraine is an isolated incident or it just began a few weeks ago. This has been building for a long time.

It's not being pro-Putin to point out what has really been going on.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 28, 2022 04:45 PM (ZLI7S)

476 There is no possible way that $16 million annually for vodka is correct.
==
if you look up the footnote, that's just for Hillary.

Posted by: obviously at February 28, 2022 04:45 PM (YG/WQ)

477 CUCK FORCE FAT

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 28, 2022 04:45 PM (iDcra)

478 My support for THE Ukraine is #profoundhashtag deep, but not add a flag to any social media deep

Posted by: Downcast at February 28, 2022 04:46 PM (zSnf8)

479 nd of course you have proof of that right?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2022 04:44 PM (Irn0L)


I do. Want it ?

Posted by: runner, dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 04:46 PM (V13WU)

480 >>> 141 Breaking News: Condi Rice is just as fucking dumb as the rest of the Bush Crime Family.
Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at February 28, 2022 03:59 PM (y7DUB)

Maybe she still wants to be NFL Commissioner.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at February 28, 2022 04:46 PM (llON8)

481 NOOD COMPARE

Posted by: Joe Mannix (not a cop!0 at February 28, 2022 04:46 PM (DU+/6)

482
Mineshaft scene:

https://tinyurl.com/y6vl5vhe

This cracks me up so still. Look how George C. Scott's eyes light up with the "10 females to each male" stuff. Won't this necessitate the abandonment of the so-called monogamous relationship, at least as far as me are concerned?

Regrettably yes... Females must be chosen for highly stimulating characteristics as prodigious service along these lines will be required.

Note the actor playing the Russian ambassador nearly cracks up several times at Peter Seller's alien hand antics.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at February 28, 2022 04:46 PM (Mzdiz)

483 That doesn't make people compliant. That makes them rowdy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison
---------
Fair enough, lol.

Posted by: whig at February 28, 2022 04:46 PM (Iq9dF)

484 Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:38 PM (YqDXo)

Bedford Incident?
Posted by: rd


Yeah, The Bedford Incident.
Richard Widmark, Sidney Poitier, James MacArthur, Wally Cox, and many, many more.
Cold War lefty scare stuff from the middle '60's.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at February 28, 2022 04:46 PM (vcOmj)

485 It's not being pro-Putin to point out what has really been going on.

It's funny listening to conservatives explain how the government that spends all its time treating them like dissidents is righteous abroad.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at February 28, 2022 04:47 PM (KFhLj)

486 I do. Want it ?
Posted by: runner, dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 04:46 PM (V13WU)

Sure

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2022 04:47 PM (Irn0L)

487 Jen , the seep state cum dumpster is currently looking for some hair to light on fire

Posted by: REDACTED at February 28, 2022 04:47 PM (us2H3)

488 JackStraw, help out here, Nevergiveup is not aware of what transpired in 2014.

Posted by: runner, dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 04:47 PM (V13WU)

489 465 My fear is that our idiot in chief will do something stupid and get a bunch of us killed. Is this an unreasonable concern?
_____________

To quote Slow Joe's former boss Barky Obama: "Never underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up."

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at February 28, 2022 04:47 PM (k4dH2)

490 It's not being pro-Putin to point out what has really been going on.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 28, 2022 04:45 PM (ZLI7S)


This.
Facts, like good intel, are apolitical.
If the shitheads in charge bother to pay attention.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 28, 2022 04:47 PM (axyOa)

491 And of course you have proof of that right?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 28, 2022 04:44 PM (Irn0L)

Jeebus! Is this in dispute? I ain't doing your homework, but I think you should maybe stretch your web time a bit.

Posted by: MkY at February 28, 2022 04:47 PM (cPGH3)

492 >>> 141 Breaking News: Condi Rice is just as fucking dumb as the rest of the Bush Crime Family.
Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt

Honestly, I've hated that smug bitch since before the Bush era.

Posted by: Capital Eff at February 28, 2022 04:48 PM (GYllL)

493 They're just Omni-Geniuses who are instantly experts in any and all fields they ask a few questions about.

hey! i used to read omni! does that make *me* a genius?

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at February 28, 2022 04:48 PM (sGtp+)

494 Name ONE THING that Biden has done, proclaimed, supported or Exec ordered that has made anything....better.
Exit question: Do you think this is by accident or is there a plan here?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet
===

It is planned and the plan is well ahead of a very ambitious schedule and achieving more than ever imagined.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 28, 2022 04:48 PM (iDcra)

495 I'm too lazy to confirm but modern Iraq was invented after WW1 from the ashes of the Ottaman Empire. So, thank the Brits for that one.
Posted by: Puddleglum at February 28, 2022 04:44 PM (sAmhv)
____________

They also generated the problems today in the Near East, with, inter alia, the Balfour Declaration. They promised Palestine to the Arabs and to the Jews, to get them to fight for Britain. After WWI, both sides produced their IOUs, only to find out that they'd been promised the same real estate.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:48 PM (YqDXo)

496 It's not being pro-Putin to point out what has really been going on.

It's funny listening to conservatives explain how the government that spends all its time treating them like dissidents is righteous abroad.
==
Funny: Ha ha, or Funny: OH SWEET JEEBUS HALP US!!!

Posted by: obviously at February 28, 2022 04:48 PM (bPw72)

497 Nood Meghan.

Posted by: Squid at February 28, 2022 04:49 PM (OuCyL)

498 My daughter was amazed at how swiftly and completely the msm & entire social-media world went all hawkish and Ukrainian flags. She asked me what to make of it. I told her," If the media and IG are FOR the war, then you must be AGAINST it. Do. Not. Take. The. Bait."

Posted by: RondinellaMamma - Donald J. Trump is our duly elected president at February 28, 2022 04:49 PM (l0Cy4)

499 My fear is that our idiot in chief will do something stupid and get a bunch of us killed. Is this an unreasonable concern?
Posted by: kraken at February 28, 2022 04:44 PM (Vr12I)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=frAEmhqdLFs

Tom Lehrer - We Will All Go Together When We Go

Posted by: rd at February 28, 2022 04:49 PM (Z32m1)

500 494 Name ONE THING that Biden has done, proclaimed, supported or Exec ordered that has made anything....better.
Exit question: Do you think this is by accident or is there a plan here?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet
===
It is planned and the plan is well ahead of a very ambitious schedule and achieving more than ever imagined.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 28, 2022 04:48 PM (iDcra)
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I disagree. I think they're too stupid to plan something like this. Evidence: choosing "Heels Up" Harris as VP. Astoundingly stupid thing to do.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:49 PM (YqDXo)

501 There are a lot of "hot-takers" out there that say that Japan had every right to attack the US at Pearl Harbor in 1941, by claiming that the US refusing to sell them oil was an act of war. It's a completely retarded take. "Until you stop invading China and committing genocide against the Chinese, we're going to stop selling you oil" is not an act of war, and certainly didn't mean that the US "started it".

Ukraine hasn't done anything to "earn this" besides seek out alliances that would allow them to defend themselves against Russian aggression. Lurlene buying a pistol after the 37th time Lester beat the shit out of her isn't a provocation against Lester, and as long as Lester doesn't hit her again, ain't nothing bad gonna happen to Lester.

Still don't think we should intervene beyond giving Ukraine all the weapons they can handle, to make sure Putin gets put in his place. But even attempting to blame Ukraine here is a real "hot take".

Posted by: Goober at February 28, 2022 04:50 PM (Hgvgt)

502 Start with the Donbas rebellion
https://tinyurl.com/2j9exj26

(Damn, here I am doing homework again...)

Posted by: MkY at February 28, 2022 04:50 PM (cPGH3)

503 Kinzinger and the rest of his Democrat loving Klown Krew should sod off. Will Putin actually use a nuke? Probably not but he does have a case of the short man's disease and backed into a corner--or seeing his plans fail, who knows what he will do?

And yes Trump is right that Putin is smart and Biden is dumb. Or at least Putin could give Biden 30 IQ points and Slow Joe still wouldn't match up. Of course that's not saying that Putin has a high IQ---it's just that Joe's is so much lower.

Posted by: GlendaleGreybeard at February 28, 2022 04:50 PM (cn6vO)

504 Goober

Well named

Posted by: MkY at February 28, 2022 04:51 PM (cPGH3)

505 I disagree. I think they're too stupid to plan something like this. Evidence: choosing "Heels Up" Harris as VP. Astoundingly stupid thing to do.
==
Impeachment and domestic assassination insurance.

Posted by: obviously at February 28, 2022 04:52 PM (sdNdY)

506 Sobering thread here on Rus v Uke situation.

https://bit.ly/35z3kh1

There's a lot of speculation, but it seems likely to me.

Short version is Rus gambled on blitzing to Kyiv and forcing a surrender. They went very minimalist bare bones to avoid upsetting their own people too much. They grabbed some key points, but mostly stuck to rural backroads to avoid much conflict. This resulted in soldiers outrunning their supplies. They weren't mentally prepped to hate Uke and fight hard. They weren't prepared for stiff Uke resistance.

That's the good news.

The bad news is most of the Rus military is not in play yet. They still have time to correct their strategy. They can still project plenty of force into Uke.

Rus is at a crossroads. Do they back out, or dig in? They've had their nose bloodied. I think this could be very bad. Maybe they take their whipping and go. But I know some Russian people. They're stubborn as hell. They might let pride overwhelm caution and take the gloves off.

Posted by: bonhomme at February 28, 2022 04:52 PM (i0wNm)

507 Well, Nevergivup , here it is. Obama wanted to push Putin hard and possibly removed. But how ? Ukraine But how, if Ukraine's government is friendly to Russia ? Well, here comes CIA and The State Department. The EuroMaidan. Culmination of the 20 year effort and billions of investment.

Posted by: runner, dissent is the highest form of patriotism at February 28, 2022 04:52 PM (V13WU)

508 And yes Trump is right that Putin is smart and Biden is dumb. Or at least Putin could give Biden 30 IQ points and Slow Joe still wouldn't match up. Of course that's not saying that Putin has a high IQ---it's just that Joe's is so much lower.
Posted by: GlendaleGreybeard at February 28, 2022 04:50 PM (cn6vO)
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I suspect Putin IS pretty smart. He didn't get to his position by ginning up fake ballots, as Biden did. He outmaneuvered a whole bunch of people to get there.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:52 PM (YqDXo)

509 Kinzinger and the rest of his Democrat loving Klown Krew should sod off. Will Putin actually use a nuke? Probably not but he does have a case of the short man's disease and backed into a corner--or seeing his plans fail, who knows what he will do?
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This is why they will do it for him. A lotta surplus russian nukes in hands of deep state. And people will buy he did it, because they will read his psychology the same way you did.

Posted by: obviously at February 28, 2022 04:53 PM (zNgdG)

510 I put Mensch in the same category as Michael Avenatti, Michael Cohen and Tom Arnold. Years of crack, coke and God knows what else has damaged them mentally. They were probably already mentally compromised starting out. Remember that Arnold and Michael Cohen had the goods on Trump to take him down.

Posted by: Cheri at February 28, 2022 04:55 PM (oiNtH)

511 How come Nazi Pelosi and congress has never taken the nuclear football away from Captain Dementia?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, oops, I commented again. Sorry, eh. at February 28, 2022 04:56 PM (eGTCV)

512 Putin won't go nuclear because it would be the end of him and Russia too. I don't mean that Russia would be obliterated or anything, just that they would become a pariah state.

Posted by: JoeF. at February 28, 2022 04:56 PM (mR6Gs)

513 Rus is at a crossroads. Do they back out, or dig in? They've had their nose bloodied. I think this could be very bad. Maybe they take their whipping and go. But I know some Russian people. They're stubborn as hell. They might let pride overwhelm caution and take the gloves off.
==
Member when they gassed the chechnen terrorists and killed half the hostages. Yeah. It'll get worse before it gets better. Russians don't take a dump without a plan, and those plans are never to give up and go home early.

Posted by: obviously at February 28, 2022 04:56 PM (Ecuvg)

514 Putin won't go nuclear because it would be the end of him and Russia too. I don't mean that Russia would be obliterated or anything, just that they would become a pariah state.
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Ding ding ding. This is why they will do it for him. They want him a pariah and dead in his own country by the hands of his own countrymen.

Posted by: obviously at February 28, 2022 04:57 PM (TkfcU)

515 There is a Marshal of the Supreme Court. He's the chief of security at the court building. She may have had a conversation with him, but he certainly did not tell her what she said he did. The court has no formal role in impeachment proceedings and even if it did, he's part of the support staff, not someone involved in the mechanics of the Court's work. There's likely a head custodian at the court building too, and someone supervising the cafeteria, and a treasury office.

Posted by: Art Deco at February 28, 2022 05:01 PM (1BrBu)

516 "The Marshall of the Supreme Court" shouldn't be too hard to spot. Xhe'll be the one wearing the really cool hat. rainbow uni and the corded epaulets.

Posted by: UNK CHARLIE at February 28, 2022 06:05 PM (ZnVDo)

517 101 The AN-225 super plane was blowed up by the Russkies.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 28, 2022 03:55 PM (BoHLr

I've seen it's baby brother, the AN-122, at the local cargo ramp several times a year. We've even had two of them in at the same time. I think the owners/operators park item here between charters when it makes economic or operational sense. Better than being in Kyiv and getting blown up.

Posted by: Fox2! at February 28, 2022 06:06 PM (qpXD6)

518 I suspect Putin IS pretty smart. He didn't get to his position by ginning up fake ballots, as Biden did. He outmaneuvered killed a whole bunch of people to get there.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at February 28, 2022 04:52 PM (YqDXo)

FIFY

Posted by: Fox2! at February 28, 2022 06:08 PM (qpXD6)

519 "We have been bullied about what we are permitted to say or believe about Trump, about Russiagate, about the election, about the January 6 "Insurrection," about BLM and George Floyd (they're all heroes and besides those businesses are insured), about covid, about masking, about vaccines, about myocarditis (it's a conspiracy theory oh wait now it's not a conspiracy theory, but it's a very minor risk you shouldn't be worried about), and on and on and on."

Great stuff Ace - but it looks like the Left have stumbled onto an issue that will greatly help them sow division among conservatives. It's remarkable how many conservatives have jumped on the Ukraine propaganda bandwagon. I don't care about either and hope the war ruins both governments, exposes the globalists for the blood sucking oligarchs (include Elon Musk) they are, and end the Biden administration.

Posted by: MikeN at February 28, 2022 06:15 PM (9wRdj)

520 "Posted by: MkY at February 28, 2022 04:50 PM (cPGH3)"

All insults aside, this article was written while Poroshenko was still president. To call it stale news is an understatement.

Not exactly sure why you feel the need to insult me instead of actually addressing my statement using information that isn't the better part of a decade old, as if literally nothing has changed inside Ukraine since.

Or are you one of those "imperial Japan did nothing wrong" folks and that's your beef?

Posted by: Goober at February 28, 2022 06:50 PM (Hgvgt)

521 No matter how often the Foreign Policy Establishment Priesthood is wrong, they never lose their arrogance or unwillingness to contemplate the possibility that maybe, just maybe, they could be wrong. During the Cuban Missile Crisis several officials considered invading Cuba; it turned out that the Russians had tactical nuclear weapons. An invasion may have turned into bloodbath. Dominoes did not fall after the Communists took over South Vietnam. Iraq did not possess WMD. But now, several days into a war, the Wise Men have it all figured out. An "expert" on CNN said that if a no-fly zone was established over Ukraine there was a "chance" that it could lead to hostilities. Yeah...there is definitely a chance. Just like there is a chance that if I stick my hand in a wood chipper, it might nick me. These experts love to to throw around phrases such as "national security interests of the US" and "boots on the ground" to make themselves sound like Deep Thinkers. How is the territorial integrity or autonomy of Ukraine a requirement for US security? The USSR controlled Ukraine for over 70 years but we managed to maintain our freedom.

Posted by: Porfiry at February 28, 2022 06:55 PM (AGWXI)

522 I don't like to see innocent people harmed, but beyond that, I am simply out of fucks when it comes to Ukraine. Don't care except that it will be an excuse to make my gas and groceries more expensive -- when I can find them.

Just praying the malicious flock of sociopaths who seem to run everything these days doesn't get somebody nuked.

Posted by: Mozam at February 28, 2022 07:09 PM (ea+OK)

523 In just the last few years, Jennifer Griffin, the Pentagon stenographer whore, has lied hysterically about:

*Trump's Syria withdrawal leading to the imminent genocide of the Kurds;
*Trump calling WWI veterans "losers" and "suckers" in a military cemetery; and
*The strategic reality of the situation in Ukraine (spoiler alert: Macgregor is right--the game is over, Russia is in the process of completing the envelopment of both Kiev and the bulk of Ukraine's forces, which are situated in the east).

Am I missing anything?

It was especially outrageous of Baldy to presume to "correct" the commander in 73 Easting's unvarnished analysis and accuse him of being a "Putin apologist."

MacGregor is on Tucker a lot. I'd bet money Tucker addresses this one way or another tonight.

Posted by: Lincoln Hawk at February 28, 2022 07:34 PM (chL32)

524 If the EU wants to be the policeman of Europe, I'm all in.

Our country, could use a breather after eighty years.

Posted by: WillieStark at February 28, 2022 08:18 PM (A5peD)

525 "And simple, automatic Rejectivism is not an irrational response to a Regime that lies, or is completely 100% wrong, this often. If they lied only once in a while, or were wrong once in a while, I'd say automatic Rejectivism was an overreaction and a bad strategy, as it would usually result in the Rejectivist winding up on the wrong side of the truth." - Ace

Remember Baghdad Bob? The spokesperson of Iraq War II who ended up doing a literal "Who are you going to believe, me or your lying eyes?" on national television.

He became a joke because the lying was so bad and implausible, you couldn't trust ANYTHING from him ever again.

Posted by: Another Anon at February 28, 2022 09:21 PM (bW28E)

526 IDC about ukraine or russia either way - get back to me when we secure our own border and i'll reconsider.

i don't think this would happen but wouldn't it be interesting if putin realized that global companies like banks and apple (applepay) and such were going to try to cut him off at the knees? Then russia/china or just russia unveils a separate banking structure. You wants your gas and oil, you gots to use our banking platform. Wala, he's smoked out all of the people who would threaten the rest of us (ala Canada/Truckers) and then puts them over a barrel unless/until they use his system. Would be interesting if that's what he's doing.

Posted by: Isolden at February 28, 2022 10:16 PM (dB99g)

527 #524

We showed up in 1917 because they wouldn't stop fighting.

Posted by: torabora at February 28, 2022 11:02 PM (FE9xK)

528 Is Lt.Col Vindman in the fight?

Posted by: torabora at February 28, 2022 11:14 PM (FE9xK)

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