Surprise! The Straight-Shooter Highly Patriotic Good Guy Organization the CIA Has Been Spying on Americans

They'll say "We can't defend you against terrorists unless we can spy on you!"

And I say, honestly: "I don't care. You're a bigger threat than any terrorist. I'd rather a thousand Americans die from terrorist attacks than you fascist monsters have any power at all. There are many threats and we have to rationally rank them all in terms of menace, and you assholes have managed to put yourselves at the top of the list."

You're the dangerous ones. You're the ones with the schemes to enslave us.

Foreign terrorists can't enslave us. They can kill some of us, a bunch of us if they get very lucky, but they can't enslave us. They can't control us in our daily lives.

But you can.

And you want to.

The DOJ, FBI, and CIA are the Axis of Evil that most threatens the safety and liberty of the American people.

The CIA has a secret, undisclosed data repository that includes information collected about Americans, two Democrats on the Senate Intelligence Committee said. While neither the agency nor lawmakers would disclose specifics about the data, the senators alleged the CIA had long hidden details about the program from the public and Congress.
Sens. Ron Wyden of Oregon and Martin Heinrich of New Mexico sent a letter to top intelligence officials calling for more details about the program to be declassified. Large parts of the letter, which was sent in April 2021 and declassified Thursday, and documents released by the CIA were blacked out. Wyden and Heinrich said the program operated "outside the statutory framework that Congress and the public believe govern this collection."
There have long been concerns about what information the intelligence community collects domestically, driven in part by previous violations of Americans' civil liberties. The CIA and National Security Agency have a foreign mission and are generally barred from investigating Americans or U.S. businesses. But the spy agencies' sprawling collection of foreign communications often snares Americans' messages and data incidentally.

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"Incidentally"

Intelligence agencies are required to take steps to protect U.S. information, including redacting the names of any Americans from reports unless they are deemed relevant to an investigation. The process of removing redactions is known as "unmasking."

And we all know how you'd never unmask American citizens against the rules, don't we?

The CIA on Friday said the program highlighted by the senators and another disclosed this week are "repositories of information about the activities of foreign governments and foreign nationals." In a statement, the agency said the programs were classified to stop adversaries from compromising them.

And by "adversaries," they mean "American citizens and voters."

A little reminder:

In 2013, Wyden asked then-Director of National Intelligence James Clapper if the NSA collected "any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans." Clapper initially responded, "No." He later said, "Not wittingly."
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Clapper would later apologize in a letter to the Senate Intelligence Committee, calling his response to Wyden "clearly erroneous."

He would later explain his perjury as an attempt to give "the least untruthful answer [he] could."

And of course he skated, because they're all literally above the law, and they know it, and they act like they know they're above the law.

Posted by: Ace at 04:50 PM

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1 The CIA has been spying on everyone since at least 71 since Echelon.

And the LE/IC apparatus has more than likely been spying on citizens since the advent of the LE/IC.

But to your point, they are an existential threat and must be dealt with.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 21, 2022 04:54 PM (R9Rzy)

2 Yet another demonstration that it's the government closest to you that you should worry about most of all!

Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at February 21, 2022 04:54 PM (z/nZY)

3 Hol' up!

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at February 21, 2022 04:55 PM (QYPq3)

4 Also a group of people I'd prefer just kill themselves.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. Honker. at February 21, 2022 04:55 PM (II3Gr)

5 Been working on other stuff all day. And this is OT, but what are the Canuck members of the Horde saying about tonight's vote in parliament?

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at February 21, 2022 04:55 PM (2NHgQ)

6 https://www.rt.com/russia/550177-putin-decree-
military-donbass/

Looks like game on.

Posted by: trev006 at February 21, 2022 04:56 PM (RJToO)

7 Come on, no one spies on Americans...

Now, would you do me a favor and put your damn pants on... GROSS!

Posted by: Bob, NSA... at February 21, 2022 04:56 PM (oHd/0)

8 Remember when the CIA spent its time trying to install dictators in South American countries who hated communism and funneled money to private accounts held by CIA head honchos?

I think I liked that CIA more.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 21, 2022 04:56 PM (LvTSG)

9 Yes.

Posted by: goddessoftheclassroom at February 21, 2022 04:56 PM (REJkJ)

10 Leftists back when the government wasn't spying on average people: The government is spying on you man - those people are NAZIs n'stuff and we need to get rid of them.

Leftists since the government started spying on average people: If you don't have anything to hide you shouldn't be afraid of the fine, fine persyns in the CIA watching your every move. I mean...you aren't engaged in wrongthing are you prole?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 21, 2022 04:56 PM (ESjRY)

11 Isn't this news like 10 years old? Snowden confirmed it. Everyone knows. Nobody seems to want to do anything about it.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at February 21, 2022 04:56 PM (3vQN0)

12 hiya

Posted by: JT at February 21, 2022 04:57 PM (arJlL)

13 And this is OT, but what are the Canuck members of the Horde saying about tonight's vote in parliament?
Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at February 21, 2022 04:55 PM (2NHgQ)

It may become very material soon enough. If the vote goes as well for Trudeau as I think, the entire West will have no reason to stay in the country.

Posted by: trev006 at February 21, 2022 04:57 PM (RJToO)

14 Willowed: Who thought killing off Christianity could have a downside? I mean, besides people who understood Christianity.
Posted by: Wally at February 21, 2022

***
People don't believe me when I say we used to have a moment of silent prayer in grammar school every morning, until 1962 and the no-prayer-in-schools decision by the Supremes. I have no idea what the other kids thought about during that time. But even I, who was not raised in any denomination, was aware that it was something solemn and not to be taken lightly.

I grew up with Catholic kids. On Tuesday afternoons, I think, a couple of my classmates got to leave at 2:15 for something called "catechism." We never talked about it, so I just thought they were getting out of school early. (Years later I saw my then-wife's old catechism book. Wow, what a lot to learn!) My point here is that nobody at school thought it weird for one of us to leave for that.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at February 21, 2022 04:57 PM (txdEq)

15 Wonder what is about to drop if they're letting this out of the bag.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at February 21, 2022 04:57 PM (QYPq3)

16 we also wouldn't be importing them 24/7 like the deep state does.

Posted by: x at February 21, 2022 04:57 PM (uQFwj)

17 We lost control of this country to a bunch of spooks, oligarchs are all-around assholes. Until they are purged ala Canticle for Liebowitz we will continue to live in an occupied country.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at February 21, 2022 04:58 PM (eeRB6)

18 We don't collect any info.
Ok maybe some info gets through the cracks.
Ok maybe a lot of info.
OK a ton of info.
OK, all the info.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at February 21, 2022 04:58 PM (3vQN0)

19 Perjury is a CIA executive level job requirement.

Posted by: Beto Ochoa at February 21, 2022 04:58 PM (dzZCL)

20 The DOJ, FBI, and CIA are the Axis of Evil that most threatens the safety and liberty of the American people.
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This is so true.

Posted by: SMH at God's grace at February 21, 2022 04:58 PM (PuU/d)

21

Do they raise poultry out at The Farm?

Posted by: Chicken Fucker at February 21, 2022 04:58 PM (7DYli)

22 Not popular around these parts (didn't want Israel to have nukes and wanted inspectors in that country. Fine I took a header for that one in Dallas.
But was I wrong about blowing up the CIA into 1000 pieces?

Posted by: zombie jfk at February 21, 2022 04:58 PM (VhNsu)

23 A cia that cannot predict Afghanistan collapse

A fbi that cannot prosecute Epstein or hitlery

Burn them all down.

Nuke them from orbit it is the only way

Posted by: Justin Castreau at February 21, 2022 04:58 PM (ZW1rs)

24 >>>Isn't this news like 10 years old? Snowden confirmed it. Everyone knows. Nobody seems to want to do anything about it.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at February 21, 2022 04:56 PM (3vQN0)

It's one thing that everyone knows. It's another thing when the government says, "Yeah, we do. Fook you."

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at February 21, 2022 04:59 PM (QYPq3)

25 "Foreign terrorists can't enslave us. They can kill some of us, a bunch of us if they get very lucky, but they can't enslave us. They can't control us in our daily lives.

But you can.

And you want to."

The US in particular has had little to fear from foreign invaders. Maybe we should start worrying if Mexico takes up human sacrifice and cannibalism but otherwise...

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 21, 2022 04:59 PM (z5Vrg)

26 Remember when the CIA spent its time trying to install dictators in South American countries who hated communism and funneled money to private accounts held by CIA head honchos?

I think I liked that CIA more.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 21, 2022 04:56 PM (LvTSG)

Personnel is policy. They got rid of all the anti-communists first, then they got rid of the Anti-Jihadis...permanently in some cases

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards (Logan Tiberius 2012-2021) at February 21, 2022 04:59 PM (eeRB6)

27 Quasi willow, is the Tulsi, Brandi, Candace trio a marry, take liberties, befriend scenario? Confused in Texas.

Posted by: Indignacio Vindicatorem at February 21, 2022 04:59 PM (oWBc3)

28 23 A cia that cannot predict Afghanistan collapse

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Or the USSR's collapse. The CIA was still saying their economy was A+ in 1990 or something like that.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at February 21, 2022 04:59 PM (3vQN0)

29 Nonsense! Lies! Slander!

So what can I do to get you into a brand new War With Russia (tm) today?

We offer 0% financing for the first 12 months.

Posted by: Your friendly neighborhood CIA officer at February 21, 2022 04:59 PM (BD0Jm)

30 Is there a government agency that is NOT spying on us?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 21, 2022 04:59 PM (R8uWY)

31 this the same fbi and cia that vetted the awans?

Posted by: x at February 21, 2022 05:00 PM (uQFwj)

32 The distinctions between state policing agents seem to be fading, and becoming more of an internal fiefdom matter, with external actions being overlapping. This is bad news, for us.

Posted by: kraken at February 21, 2022 05:00 PM (Vr12I)

33 11 Isn't this news like 10 years old? Snowden confirmed it. Everyone knows. Nobody seems to want to do anything about it.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at February 21, 2022 04:56 PM (3vQN0)

NSA I think. The other agencies also spy on us, the CIA is the one that's specifically prohibited from doing so iirc.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 21, 2022 05:00 PM (z5Vrg)

34 Who thought killing off Christianity could have a downside? I mean, besides people who understood Christianity.
Posted by: Wally at February 21, 2022

Certain people think this gives them license to rape and murder children, which was the real cause of said people suffering tremendously in the eras before secularism.

Posted by: trev006 at February 21, 2022 05:00 PM (RJToO)

35 30 Is there a government agency that is NOT spying on us?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 21, 2022 04:59 PM (R8uWY)

Can't think of one offhand.

Posted by: kraken at February 21, 2022 05:00 PM (Vr12I)

36 We need to leave five eyes too.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 21, 2022 05:00 PM (tRexl)

37

Amateurs!

*Vaporizes a few dozen Troubleshooters for the lols*

Posted by: Friend Computer at February 21, 2022 05:01 PM (7DYli)

38 Remember when the CIA spent its time trying to install dictators in South American countries who hated communism and funneled money to private accounts held by CIA head honchos?

I think I liked that CIA more.

I think turning the CIA was the last thing the Soviets succeeded at. Now they're in bed with European socialists and China, but they've never forgiven Russia for turning on Communism.

Hence the Democrats' Russia obsession.

Posted by: Methos at February 21, 2022 05:01 PM (kOpft)

39 Is there a government agency that is NOT spying on us?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 21, 2022 04:59 PM (R8uWY)

You do know that there is now wifi in those colonoscopes right?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2022 05:01 PM (Irn0L)

40 @23

>>A cia that cannot predict Afghanistan collapse

And it appears that nobody in The CIA has anyone on the China beat.

Oh and good old Merrick Garland is closing up the internal China bureau at the DOJ.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 21, 2022 05:01 PM (BxACj)

41 The CIA has been enormously helpful to us in tracking bank accounts. They had already collected accounts for all protest participants for us!

Posted by: Gruppenfuhrer Chrystia Freeland at February 21, 2022 05:02 PM (uklvW)

42 Ha! New axis of evil! I love it.

Posted by: Draki at February 21, 2022 05:02 PM (lWEsI)

43 I think turning the CIA was the last thing the Soviets succeeded at. Now they're in bed with European socialists and China, but they've never forgiven Russia for turning on Communism.

Hence the Democrats' Russia obsession.
Posted by: Methos at February 21, 2022 05:01 PM (kOpft)

They got pretty much all the western intel agencies.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 21, 2022 05:02 PM (z5Vrg)

44 I grew up with Catholic kids. On Tuesday afternoons, I think, a couple of my classmates got to leave at 2:15 for something called "catechism.
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Very common around here, maybe because of the Italian community. Nuns were the meanest women I have ever known.

Posted by: dartist at February 21, 2022 05:02 PM (+ya+t)

45 33 11 Isn't this news like 10 years old? Snowden confirmed it. Everyone knows. Nobody seems to want to do anything about it.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at February 21, 2022 04:56 PM (3vQN0)

NSA I think. The other agencies also spy on us, the CIA is the one that's specifically prohibited from doing so iirc.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 21, 2022 05:00 PM (z5Vrg)

Snowden spoke out of school and disrupted a nice little covert op that was underway. He is a ded man if he ever leaves Russia. Maybe even there.

Posted by: kraken at February 21, 2022 05:03 PM (Vr12I)

46 The CIA decided the only way they could really protect this information they "incidentally" gathered was to keep it and tell no one.

That's what I do with chocolate cake. Keep it so that it can't harm anyone else.

Posted by: Wally at February 21, 2022 05:03 PM (FJYfm)

47 That data repository must be getting yuge. If you've been identified as a deplorable, chances are you are in there.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 21, 2022 05:03 PM (Xrfse)

48 22 Not popular around these parts (didn't want Israel to have nukes and wanted inspectors in that country. Fine I took a header for that one in Dallas.
But was I wrong about blowing up the CIA into 1000 pieces?
Posted by: zombie jfk at February 21, 2022 04:58 PM (VhNsu)

No, and your executive order to bring money creation back to the government from the Fed Res was genius as well... funny that you were killed right after that, and one of the FIRST things Johnson did was rescind that order.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 21, 2022 05:03 PM (oHd/0)

49 For your information, our Russia obsession began the day Putin stopped letting foreigners adopt Russian children and rape them.

We adhere to no other philosophy.

Posted by: Your friendly neighborhood CIA officer at February 21, 2022 05:03 PM (BD0Jm)

50 CPAC invites Tulsi because they are unserious.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 21, 2022 05:03 PM (tRexl)

51 What they are hiding behind is the legal definition of "collection" when it comes to the intelligence community. Scraping and storing is not legally "collecting.". Only when an intel organization makes use of that data in some Intel function does it become a collect.

Source: I've taught Intel oversight classes that are annually required of all intel personnel.

Posted by: F2000 at February 21, 2022 05:04 PM (PWcd9)

52 Love the Boomers who still think there was a 'Good' Kennedy.

Posted by: garrett at February 21, 2022 05:04 PM (RgQFj)

53
Our SWAT does not spy on anyone

Posted by: Dept of Ed at February 21, 2022 05:04 PM (E8883)

54 Our intelligence tells us Russia will not enter Ukraine, ever.

Posted by: The CIA at February 21, 2022 05:04 PM (15hj8)

55 NSA I think. The other agencies also spy on us, the CIA is the one that's specifically prohibited from doing so iirc.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 21, 2022 05:00 PM (z5Vrg)

Snowden spoke out of school and disrupted a nice little covert op that was underway. He is a ded man if he ever leaves Russia. Maybe even there.
Posted by: kraken at February 21, 2022 05:03 PM (Vr12I)

Key is the that War on Terror act broke down the barriers between agencies sharing data. So while the NSA does collect it, now the CIA can mine that data... and they use contractors to do it to give a patina of legality.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 21, 2022 05:05 PM (oHd/0)

56 Is there a government agency that is NOT spying on us?

You can choose not to use the Post Office.

Posted by: Methos at February 21, 2022 05:05 PM (kOpft)

57 >>>That data repository must be getting yuge. If you've been identified as a deplorable, chances are you are in there.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 21, 2022 05:03 PM (Xrfse)

For the record, all are classified as deplorable.

Posted by: The Government at February 21, 2022 05:05 PM (QYPq3)

58 >>CPAC invites Tulsi because they are unserious.

They'll feel less self-conscious about their acne.

Posted by: garrett at February 21, 2022 05:05 PM (RgQFj)

59 50 CPAC invites Tulsi because they are unserious.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 21, 2022 05:03 PM (tRexl)

The political class has basically no sense of crisis. That's how we can be sure that things won't be fixed.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 21, 2022 05:05 PM (z5Vrg)

60 I would like to thank the Obamessiah for politicizing every damn Federal department, bureau, and agency. Thereby making it possible to make the reality of the paranoid thrillers that the Boomers used to love in the Sixties, Seventies, and Eighties. I guess things change when the young radicals become the old guard.

Posted by: exdem13 at February 21, 2022 05:06 PM (W+kMI)

61 Addendum: the stories out there indicate unjustified queries. Those would turn the stored data into collections. They indicate they know this by intentionally skimping on the documentation.

Posted by: F2000 at February 21, 2022 05:06 PM (PWcd9)

62 Today is an historic day in American History.
An impotent president being walked over by mother russia
Barrel of oil soon to top $100 because our impotent leader is destroying our oil industry
Spies all around us.
I think Nikita Khrushchev was right, they will bury us, well before Islam buries them
Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2022 05:07 PM (Irn0L)

63 CPAC invites Tulsi because they are unserious.

She's apparently on the WEF list right after Crenshaw.

Posted by: Methos at February 21, 2022 05:07 PM (kOpft)

64
CPAC invites Tulsi because they are unserious.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 21, 2022 05:03 PM

the same, or different, than Zell Miller speaking at the GOP convention in 2004?

discuss

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 21, 2022 05:07 PM (DUIap)

65 I'm sure the CIA has a very good reason for doing this, though they probably cannot tell us what it is for our own good.

Posted by: The average Democrat suburban voter at February 21, 2022 05:07 PM (uklvW)

66 That data repository must be getting yuge. If you've been identified as a deplorable, chances are you are in there.

Rest assured that anyone whose ever filled out a 4473 form is on the list.

Posted by: Eisenhorn at February 21, 2022 05:07 PM (79FgF)

67 SMOD 2024!

Start with Sodom on the Potomac and Gomorrah on the Hudson. Maybe we can then take it from there ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Honk Semper Tyrannis! at February 21, 2022 05:07 PM (743lG)

68 Tulsi is a better conservative than mitt fuckin romney or liz fuckin cheney

Posted by: x at February 21, 2022 05:07 PM (uQFwj)

69 I used to live around a bunch of spooks. Drinking beer at the neighborhood pool with guys I've known for years. Kids went to school together. I've known about this for years and so do a lot of people.

There isn't a damn thing that can be done about it.

Posted by: pawn at February 21, 2022 05:07 PM (kYVzH)

70 specifically prohibited from doing so iirc.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 21, 2022 05:00 PM (z5Vrg)

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NSA, CIA, all the same shit. It's like Chevy and Buick. Same car, just different badges.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at February 21, 2022 05:08 PM (3vQN0)

71 For the record, all are classified as deplorable.

Some deplorables are more equal than others.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 21, 2022 05:08 PM (Xrfse)

72 Gabbard " seems" to be moving into rebranding herself. Fine-but proceed with EXTREME caution concerning her, I shall.

Posted by: kraken at February 21, 2022 05:08 PM (Vr12I)

73 Frankly, I'm more put off by the incompetence and treason than the spying.

And another thing. I am so sick of that Bushism "Oh, you have no idea how many terrorist attacks we prevented. We can't tell you, but trust us, it lots and lots."
Yet, they seem to always miss the real easy ones by guys they have been tracking closely.

Posted by: Chinese restaurant association at February 21, 2022 05:08 PM (Q5Hgr)

74 Tulsi is a better conservative than mitt fuckin romney or liz fuckin cheney
Posted by: x at February 21, 2022 05:07 PM (uQFwj)

Sad but true

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2022 05:08 PM (Irn0L)

75 There isn't a damn thing that can be done about it.
Posted by: pawn at February 21, 2022 05:07 PM (kYVzH)

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If you send $100 ASAP, we promise we'll do something about in 202?
- GOP

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at February 21, 2022 05:08 PM (3vQN0)

76 Is there a government agency that is NOT spying on us?

You can choose not to use the Post Office.
Posted by: Methos at February 21, 2022 05:05 PM (kOpft)

Dept of State, they're so dumb they think they can hang with muslims on 9/11 like their bro's

Posted by: Draki at February 21, 2022 05:09 PM (lWEsI)

77 NSA, CIA, all the same shit. It's like Chevy and Buick. Same car, just different badges.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at February 21, 2022 05:08 PM (3vQN0)

Once they all started working for the DNI, and Nat Sec Advisor... it was all Kabuki

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 21, 2022 05:09 PM (oHd/0)

78 17 We lost control of this country to a bunch of spooks, oligarchs are all-around assholes. Until they are purged ala Canticle for Liebowitz we will continue to live in an occupied country.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Their control is virtual which in one sense makes it easier to identify. I would agree that a purge is needed but that can only happen if citizens demand it.

Posted by: whig at February 21, 2022 05:09 PM (Iq9dF)

79 >>Is there a government agency that is NOT spying on us?

No.

Posted by: The Girls of PornHub at February 21, 2022 05:10 PM (RgQFj)

80 And another thing. I am so sick of that Bushism "Oh, you have no idea how many terrorist attacks we prevented. We can't tell you, but trust us, it lots and lots."
Yet, they seem to always miss the real easy ones by guys they have been tracking closely.
Posted by: Chinese restaurant association at February 21, 2022 05:08 PM (Q5Hgr)

Heard jeb the fuck bush on with cavuto...my G-D jeb is still weak like Fredo. He was actually praising biden for his, and get this, foreign policy. Ya can't make this shit up

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2022 05:10 PM (Irn0L)

81 And Miss Lindsey Graham will be on Hannity tonight to throw a Hizzy Fit, and promise ... not a damn thing.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 21, 2022 05:10 PM (oHd/0)

82 63 CPAC invites Tulsi because they are unserious.

She's apparently on the WEF list right after Crenshaw.

Posted by: Methos at February 21, 2022 05:07 PM (kOpft)

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Tulsi will give birth to Dan's daughter, Klaus Barbie Crenshaw-Gabbard, #Soon.

Posted by: ShainS -- Honk Semper Tyrannis! at February 21, 2022 05:10 PM (743lG)

83 Republicans in the senate including Graham, Romney and Burr couldn't even be bothered to be there for a vote to end the vaccine mandates. Fools like them long ago gave up any oversight...of anything.

But vote for a Republican senate led by Mitch "Unlawful Detention Maven" McConnell. They will super seriously protect your rights.

Posted by: Marcus T, Recovering at February 21, 2022 05:11 PM (LjX+p)

84
Considering that Frau Gruppencankles' server was full of US secrets and was open to anyone who had an FTP client, including the Botswana Intelligence Agency, I really don't think the CIA has any business trying to claim that they still have secrets to keep.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at February 21, 2022 05:11 PM (n+4am)

85 Surprising no one. Hell, they do not even have to collect the data themselves, the smart play would be to subcontract it out to one of their faithful democratic front groups. Hell, they do not even have to do any investigation- just draw up the lists!

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 21, 2022 05:11 PM (QCwhW)

86 Yet, they seem to always miss the real easy ones by guys they have been tracking closely.

Posted by: Chinese restaurant association
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In the Texas everybody draws shooting, the FBI apparently was encouraging the whole thing through a handler. Ditto for MI Mich Gov. kidnapping scene and most probably Jan 6 as well.

Cutoff the money for any informants, contractors, etc. and make the agents do the illegal actions themselves. The current setup was because they did do that in Cointelpro and the agents went to jail in some cases.

Posted by: whig at February 21, 2022 05:11 PM (Iq9dF)

87 83 Republicans in the senate including Graham, Romney and Burr couldn't even be bothered to be there for a vote to end the vaccine mandates. Fools like them long ago gave up any oversight...of anything.

But vote for a Republican senate led by Mitch "Unlawful Detention Maven" McConnell. They will super seriously protect your rights.
Posted by: Marcus T, Recovering at February 21, 2022 05:11 PM (LjX+p)

They pretty pointedly were NOT there.

Posted by: kraken at February 21, 2022 05:12 PM (Vr12I)

88 They didn't make that NSA datacenter in (IIRC) Utah, impervious to conventional aerial bombing for no damn reason at all, did they?

They KNOW the Citizens will come for them, sooner or later. And some of those Citizens are active duty, with access to up-arm some F-umpteens with all kinds of noisemakers. So, the Datacenter is an UberBunker, by design. Think any of those Gulf War era ultra-penetrating bombs (made of large artillery barrels) would do the trick? On Pay Per View, maybe?

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 21, 2022 05:12 PM (QzJWU)

89 Look, if you don't let us collect this stuff, then we're going to lose a war, I mean another war ... right so that's a good point, ok, we were collecting this stuff and lost Afghanistan, but we might have lost like two Afghanistans without this stuff ... right, I know there's not TWO Afganistans, that's just like an analogy or a pun, I don't know what the right word is but you gotta let us keep looking at this stuff, ok? It's important and for your safety, well not YOUR safety, but I think my girlfriend might be cheating on me, ok? This is how I keep tabs on her.

Posted by: CIA Agency PR (Deepcover) at February 21, 2022 05:12 PM (dYe5S)

90 30 Is there a government agency that is NOT spying on us?
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I doubt it. I keep looking for evidence that we're not living in a totalitarian intelligence/police state, but everything seems to be pointing in the wrong direction.

One small example: Nancy Pelosi established a brand new national LE agency as part of her 1/6 kabuki theater. No discussion, no legislation, no nothing.

And not a peep of criticism from anyone.

I'm thinking we've lost and it's too late for any reasonable hope of correcting this.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at February 21, 2022 05:12 PM (sWM8x)

91 81 And Miss Lindsey Graham will be on Hannity tonight to throw a Hizzy Fit, and promise ... not a damn thing.

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 21, 2022 05:10 PM (oHd/0)

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"Sean, would you believe me if I told you that this shocking story has my panties in a twist?"

Posted by: ShainS -- Honk Semper Tyrannis! at February 21, 2022 05:12 PM (743lG)

92 The DOJ, FBI, and CIA are the Axis of Evil that most threatens the safety and liberty of the American people.

Back in the day - here - that was bannable. Would have been, by Maet. Times, they are a changin'.

Posted by: Stayin' Alive at February 21, 2022 05:12 PM (SuDUO)

93 The political class has basically no sense of crisis. That's how we can be sure that things won't be fixed.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 21, 2022 05:05 PM (z5Vrg)

That's because for them, there isn't a crisis. Tell me how things have gotten worse, in any way, for the Beltway crowd in the last 30 years.
I hate to cite YA fiction, but they are the people in the Capitol District from the Hunger Games, and we're all living in one of the other districts.

Posted by: Wally at February 21, 2022 05:12 PM (FJYfm)

94 Look at the bills and issues Gabbard supported when she was in Congress. She isn't a moderate.

Posted by: Marcus T, Recovering at February 21, 2022 05:12 PM (LjX+p)

95 81 And Miss Lindsey Graham will be on Hannity tonight to throw a Hizzy Fit, and promise ... not a damn thing.
Posted by: Romeo13 at February 21, 2022 05:10 PM (oHd/0)
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He, like Biden, want the Ukraine kickback money to continue flowing.

Posted by: WisRich at February 21, 2022 05:13 PM (G0vdT)

96 Spy on a President what makes anyone think they are immune?

Posted by: Skip at February 21, 2022 05:13 PM (2JoB8)

97 85 Surprising no one. Hell, they do not even have to collect the data themselves, the smart play would be to subcontract it out to one of their faithful democratic front groups. Hell, they do not even have to do any investigation- just draw up the lists!

Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Aetius451AD, that is exactly what they have been doing--dirty actions are contracted out for deniability to their networks of criminals, dirty tricks specialists, foreign intel agencies, and informants.

Posted by: whig at February 21, 2022 05:13 PM (Iq9dF)

98 Afternoon.

The CIA is a Cold War institution that should have been abolished when the Soviet Union fell.

Here's a crazy idea. How about we not worship these institutions like idols and instead abolish and replace them every generation? We know they become rotten and corrupt and abused by the power hungry. Tear it all down and replace them with agencies focused on the challenges of the present and staffed with people eagerly focused on those goals.

We need to be more like Thomas Jefferson.

Posted by: Robert at February 21, 2022 05:13 PM (W+krK)

99 >>They KNOW the Citizens will come for them, sooner or later. And some of those Citizens are active duty, with access to up-arm some F-umpteens with all kinds of noisemakers. So, the Datacenter is an UberBunker, by design. Think any of those Gulf War era ultra-penetrating bombs (made of large artillery barrels) would do the trick? On Pay Per View, maybe?

A USB Stick left in the Parking Lot will suffice.

Posted by: Stuxnet at February 21, 2022 05:13 PM (RgQFj)

100 Like the Japanese, many value saving face instead of upsetting the very fabric of....happy fun times.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at February 21, 2022 05:13 PM (jtBzq)

101 Is there a government agency that is NOT spying on us?

You can choose not to use the Post Office.
Posted by: Methos at February 21, 2022 05:05 PM (kOpft)

Gosh, I'm sorry. We don't seem to have any record of that procedure or test. That was done at a different hospital. We'll have to do it again.

Posted by: VA at February 21, 2022 05:13 PM (Q5Hgr)

102 Me holding cross: DO YOU REJECT THE DEMOCRAT AND ALL THEIR WICKEDNESS?

Tulsi: rrrrraaaaaallkllllllllllwww!

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 21, 2022 05:14 PM (tRexl)

103 92 Posted by: Stayin' Alive at February 21, 2022 05:12 PM (SuDUO)

You haven't lived until you have spent 3 or more hours being interviewed by CIs.

Posted by: sven at February 21, 2022 05:14 PM (Lzpvj)

104 59 50 CPAC invites Tulsi because they are unserious.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 21, 2022 05:03 PM (tRexl)

The political class has basically no sense of crisis. That's how we can be sure that things won't be fixed.
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The GOPe somehow thinks that they are in The Club and that the Democrats will never turn on them and give them the treatment that Trump received. They will be surprised one day, yes they will. Or in the case of the SCOTUS Chief Justice, some truth has been told already. "Reject Trump's legal filing by any reason necessary and we won't release the film of you doing a thirteen-year-old girl doggy style on Twitter."

Posted by: exdem13 at February 21, 2022 05:15 PM (W+kMI)

105 Biden set to order sanctions on separatist regions of Ukraine after Putin decree

LOL, LMAO..... what a weak sister. What a disgrace

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2022 05:15 PM (Irn0L)

106 79 >>Is there a government agency that is NOT spying on us?

No.

Posted by: The Girls of PornHub at February 21, 2022 05:10 PM (RgQFj)

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Back off, bitchez!

Posted by: Epstein's Pedo Video Collection at February 21, 2022 05:15 PM (743lG)

107 94 Look at the bills and issues Gabbard supported when she was in Congress. She isn't a moderate.
Posted by: Marcus T, Recovering at February 21, 2022 05:12 PM (LjX+p)
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Saw it this morning. Wondered if CPAC was crazy or I was.

Posted by: WisRich at February 21, 2022 05:15 PM (G0vdT)

108 Tulsi: rrrrraaaaaallkllllllllllwww!
Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 21, 2022 05:14 PM (tRexl)

Is that a chicken?

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 21, 2022 05:15 PM (QCwhW)

109 Haspel surely knew all about the Trump-Russia PsyOp, and about the London connection to concocting the lies. Global bad guy effort to remove Trump, Haspel as Brennan's understudy did nothing to stop the DeepState PsyOp ... she was one of the dirty cops to keep it going through the election.

And then what was her role as China and others interfered in our elections, big time? Nada, except maybe started writing her book maybe. idk details, but "Gina, what, exactly, would you say you DO here?"

Posted by: illiniwek at February 21, 2022 05:15 PM (Cus5s)

110
That's because for them, there isn't a crisis. Tell me how things have gotten worse, in any way, for the Beltway crowd in the last 30 years.
I hate to cite YA fiction, but they are the people in the Capitol District from the Hunger Games, and we're all living in one of the other districts.
Posted by: Wally at February 21, 2022 05:12 PM (FJYfm)

I do it all the time - it's not just 1984 that was prescient...Hunger Games was very, very on point for certain things, too...

Posted by: Nova local at February 21, 2022 05:15 PM (exHjb)

111 I'd want to see some evidence, but it's possible that the last few years have had a moderating effect on her. Maybe.

Posted by: F2000 at February 21, 2022 05:15 PM (PWcd9)

112 In 2017 when the Trump/Russia bullshit was spooling up and Trump was blaming the intel community of helping run a coup against him Chuck Schumer went on one of the Sunday shows and smirked at Trump "If you take on the intel community they have 6 ways to Sunday of getting back at you" and almost nobody blinked and eye.

He as much as said the swamp was in charge of the country and not the elected politicians and if you go after them they will get you. Everyone just seemed to accept that is if that was how the country was supposed to work.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 21, 2022 05:16 PM (ZLI7S)

113 Probably not enough. But it's happened to a few folks.

Posted by: F2000 at February 21, 2022 05:16 PM (PWcd9)

114 They KNOW the Citizens will come for them, sooner or later. And some of those Citizens are active duty, with access to up-arm some F-umpteens with all kinds of noisemakers.

Moving three shooters is still just all about moving them in a line. Not a shoulder to shoulder line - just a line. The line has to be flexible - hills and such.

Now - make that seven shooters. Still a line. You'll divide the squad in half to run at a structure - but still, it's not rocket science.

Posted by: Stayin' Alive at February 21, 2022 05:16 PM (SuDUO)

115 93 The political class has basically no sense of crisis. That's how we can be sure that things won't be fixed.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 21, 2022 05:05 PM (z5Vrg)

That's because for them, there isn't a crisis. Tell me how things have gotten worse, in any way, for the Beltway crowd in the last 30 years.
I hate to cite YA fiction, but they are the people in the Capitol District from the Hunger Games, and we're all living in one of the other districts.
Posted by: Wally at February 21, 2022 05:12 PM (FJYfm)

Yeah, there is a tendency for people in the capitol to think everything is fine until the government collapses.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 21, 2022 05:16 PM (z5Vrg)

116 I couldn't be an FBI or DOJ employee.

It's a really hard and necessary position that's really tough. I'm grateful for those guys.

Posted by: Booter Licker, formerly Bitter Clinger at February 21, 2022 05:16 PM (j681p)

117 I do it all the time - it's not just 1984 that was prescient...Hunger Games was very, very on point for certain things, too...

the lady who wrote it was former Air Force, I think?

she knew some stuff.

Posted by: Black Orchid at February 21, 2022 05:16 PM (j9HX3)

118 Gabbard supported most of the anti Second Amendment garbage, she's all in on the Green Nee Deal and she supported all the work racist bull shit. It's all in her voting record.

Posted by: Marcus T, Recovering at February 21, 2022 05:16 PM (LjX+p)

119 I'm thinking we've lost and it's too late for any reasonable hope of correcting this. Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis
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Nope, part of the issue is that intel agencies cannot win by coming forward, they have to remain in the shadows to work. Coming out via force means that the majority of people that hate them can actively go on search and destroy.

When they do the overt thing like the KGB did, they self destruct without the shade of the state's approval over them. Look at how fast the power of the E. German Stasi evaporated when their nation's government imploded.

Posted by: whig at February 21, 2022 05:17 PM (Iq9dF)

120 By the way our good friends the Saudi's told build back better biden to fuck off when he asked them to pump more oil

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2022 05:17 PM (Irn0L)

121 118 Gabbard supported most of the anti Second Amendment garbage, she's all in on the Green Nee Deal and she supported all the work racist bull shit. It's all in her voting record.
Posted by: Marcus T, Recovering at February 21, 2022 05:16 PM (LjX+p)

That is why she is best kept at arms length and used like a rented mule.

Posted by: Aetius451AD Work Laptop at February 21, 2022 05:18 PM (QCwhW)

122 107 94 Look at the bills and issues Gabbard supported when she was in Congress. She isn't a moderate.
Posted by: Marcus T, Recovering at February 21, 2022 05:12 PM (LjX+p)
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Saw it this morning. Wondered if CPAC was crazy or I was.
Posted by: WisRich at February 21, 2022 05:15 PM (G0vdT)

She's running to the Middle. The question everyone should ask is WHY?

Posted by: kraken at February 21, 2022 05:18 PM (Vr12I)

123 105 Biden set to order sanctions on separatist regions of Ukraine after Putin decree

Posted by: Nevergiveup

?? ** Sanctions??**
Oh,... Ohhhhh.
(I thought you said *suctions.*)

Posted by: Kamala at February 21, 2022 05:18 PM (Q5Hgr)

124

That's hot!

Posted by: Chicken Fucker at February 21, 2022 05:18 PM (7DYli)

125 105 Biden set to order sanctions on separatist regions of Ukraine after Putin decree

LOL, LMAO..... what a weak sister. What a disgrace

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2022 05:15 PM (Irn0L)

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You can't make this shit up.

Posted by: ShainS -- Honk Semper Tyrannis! at February 21, 2022 05:18 PM (743lG)

126 Gabbard is not changing.. she is a leftie, it is just the rest of the party has moved to be uber lefties. LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2022 05:18 PM (Irn0L)

127 "two Democrats on the Senate Intelligence Committee said."
So the CIA has info on democrats. I'm sure these two will be fine with the CIA once they erase it.

Posted by: Chuck C at February 21, 2022 05:19 PM (EughT)

128 So forget that lefty who wrote that anti American history book all the lefties love. You want real history, read that trilogy by James Ellroy.

Posted by: azjaeger at February 21, 2022 05:20 PM (Nz1bd)

129 Everyone just seemed to accept that is if that was how the country was supposed to work.

Stockholm Syndrome.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 21, 2022 05:20 PM (Xrfse)

130 122 107 94 Look at the bills and issues Gabbard supported when she was in Congress. She isn't a moderate.
Posted by: Marcus T, Recovering at February 21, 2022 05:12 PM (LjX+p)
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Saw it this morning. Wondered if CPAC was crazy or I was.
Posted by: WisRich at February 21, 2022 05:15 PM (G0vdT)

She's running to the Middle. The question everyone should ask is WHY?
Posted by: kraken at February 21, 2022 05:18 PM (Vr12I)

It's her only way to get back in power...she needs to end-run Hillary to the moderate position (b/c they hate each other) and then needs to have a democratic wipeout this November so she can play the "I told you we went too far" card as the new savior Pres or VP nominee...

Posted by: Nova local at February 21, 2022 05:20 PM (exHjb)

131 126 Gabbard is not changing.. she is a leftie, it is just the rest of the party has moved to be uber lefties. LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2022 05:18 PM (Irn0L)

She's making a move, and getting a good deal of air time. I am suspicious.

Posted by: kraken at February 21, 2022 05:20 PM (Vr12I)

132 By the way our good friends the Saudi's told build back better biden to fuck off when he asked them to pump more oil
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2022 05:17 PM

Countries don't have friends. They have common interests.

Posted by: Chuck C at February 21, 2022 05:20 PM (EughT)

133 CIA has been running things for a while now.
I can't prove it except with tons of circumstantial evidence spanning decades.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 21, 2022 05:20 PM (jTmQV)

134 He as much as said the swamp was in charge of the country and not the elected politicians and if you go after them they will get you. Everyone just seemed to accept that is if that was how the country was supposed to work.
Posted by: JackStraw

THIS!

Posted by: Zombie Richard Nixon at February 21, 2022 05:20 PM (Q5Hgr)

135 I'm trying to catch up on Ukraine as it sits today.

"If Ukraine can reach an agreement with the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics (DPR and LPR) to hold Contact Group (CG) talks on the Donbass problem, Russia will also take part in the talks, Sputnik reported"

So those are the two states where Putin has "declared peace", but wants them independent. They have been at odds with current Ukraine prez, or was it mostly with the previous US imposed (by coup) prez? ... Seems some of the DPR citizens are fleeing the current friction by moving families into Russia (who they seem to consider more family than Western Ukraine?) And their military aged men are reporting for duty or some such.

idk, three state option seems fine to me, but I barely know where Ukraine is. ha.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 21, 2022 05:21 PM (Cus5s)

136 https://instapundit.com/504912/

Left wing Group plagued by accusations of "white supremacy".

Posted by: Robert at February 21, 2022 05:21 PM (Y7zWi)

137 >>>CIA has been running things for a while now.
I can't prove it except with tons of circumstantial evidence spanning decades.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at February 21, 2022 05:20 PM (jTmQV)

Come on, now.

Posted by: George HW Bush at February 21, 2022 05:21 PM (QYPq3)

138 And then what was her role as China and others interfered in our elections, big time? Nada, except maybe started writing her book maybe. idk details, but "Gina, what, exactly, would you say you DO here?" Posted by: illiniwek

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Intel agencies ultimately destroy themselves because the information needed to fix them by policymakers is subverted and the normal feedback that tells an agency to back off from implementing stupid actions is shut down.

Same as federal law enforcement, they have destroyed feedback mechanisms in order to keep their institution from changing.

Under such circumstances, you cannot reform such organizations.

Posted by: whig at February 21, 2022 05:22 PM (Iq9dF)

139 The panopticon is here, and has been here; the missing element is leveraging it to enforce behavior in ways that can't be ignored - that's the step to complete the dystopia.

Exhibit A: Canada

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at February 21, 2022 05:22 PM (sZ2f7)

140 I wonder if Clapper was worried about a dawn raid like Roger Stone got for perjury?

I'm done with federal law enforcement and the national security industrial military complex.

Small government extends into these agencies as well, I thought differently with a Cold War mindset, but that's long gone.

Posted by: Blago at February 21, 2022 05:22 PM (9Wvcs)

141 but I barely know where Ukraine is. ha.
Posted by: illiniwek at February 21, 2022 05:21 PM (Cus5s)

It's the big state in eastern europe that is about to be swallowed whole, and then washed down with a shit load of Vodka

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2022 05:23 PM (Irn0L)

142
As far as I can tell, the CIA hasn't had a major foreign presence since the '90s. They seem to do all their work here at home.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 21, 2022 05:23 PM (SKVme)

143 This is so depressing.
Every nation state requires a viable intelligence architecture if it wishes to remain a nation state. In a constitutional republic, this relies heavily on the patriotism, integrity, and honor of those who pursue intelligence as a career. It is critical for those who lead these organizations.
The moment the intel professionals become politicized, and their information becomes politicized, it ceases to be an intelligence organization. And the nations state fails.
Leaders, whether you like 'em or hate 'em, must have clean, unfettered information. Without that, the cost of failure will be measure in treasury, blood and liberty.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 21, 2022 05:23 PM (axyOa)

144 The goal is not to come out and tell you that they are totalitarians. Stalin never claimed to be one. The goal is to box everyone in so they know it without being told.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 21, 2022 05:23 PM (5kI0z)

145 "54 Our intelligence tells us Russia will not enter Ukraine, ever.
Posted by: The CIA at February 21, 2022 05:04 PM (15hj

"

I see what you did here, seeing as AFP is now reporting Putin has publicly ordered the Russian military into the breakaway republics.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at February 21, 2022 05:23 PM (sZ2f7)

146 Intel agencies ultimately destroy themselves because the information needed to fix them by policymakers is subverted and the normal feedback that tells an agency to back off from implementing stupid actions is shut down.

Same as federal law enforcement, they have destroyed feedback mechanisms in order to keep their institution from changing.

Under such circumstances, you cannot reform such organizations.
Posted by: whig at February 21, 2022 05:22 PM

cf Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 21, 2022 05:24 PM (a3Q+t)

147 Our intelligence tells us Russia will not enter Ukraine, ever.
Posted by: The CIA at February 21, 2022 05:04 PM (15hj"

There is no more Ukraine

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2022 05:25 PM (Irn0L)

148 "144 The goal is not to come out and tell you that they are totalitarians. Stalin never claimed to be one. The goal is to box everyone in so they know it without being told.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 21, 2022 05:23 PM (5kI0z)"

I don't think they're capable of passing a certain point and not just coming out and saying it simply for the pleasure of rubbing it in.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at February 21, 2022 05:25 PM (sZ2f7)

149 Every single Democrat is 100% in favor of the CIA spying on Americans inside the US-- every last damned one of them voted to impeach Trump based on information the CIA clearly and obviously laundered.

That vote was a vote to approve domestic CIA spying.

It wasn't the FBI spying in Italy ... a key data point of "smoke" to justify the collusion narrative. Brennen was CIA

Posted by: Well at February 21, 2022 05:25 PM (XVYfL)

150 >>>The goal is not to come out and tell you that they are totalitarians. Stalin never claimed to be one. The goal is to box everyone in so they know it without being told.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 21, 2022 05:23 PM (5kI0z)

It's for democracy, bro.

Posted by: Justin Trudeau at February 21, 2022 05:25 PM (QYPq3)

151 Saw it this morning. Wondered if CPAC was crazy or I was.
Posted by: WisRich at February 21, 2022 05:15 PM (G0vdT)
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CPAC like any other organization today has no accordance with its name and its actual mission. Republican officeholders, for example, have no desire to restore an actual Republic, CPAC is not conservative, Libertarians are authoritarians now, and so on.

Reminds me of the good ole days when many communist countries wedged in the word Democratic in their official name.

Posted by: whig at February 21, 2022 05:25 PM (Iq9dF)

152 They've got more than '"unwittingly" collected data. A database with 320 million records is not very big by today's standards, and there are probably 3-4 countries that maintain one on all the Americans they can identify.

Ours being one of 'em.

Posted by: West at February 21, 2022 05:25 PM (QY+6a)

153 >>>They seem to do all their work here at home.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

We can watch CNN just fine from our houses in suburban DC. Did you know you can even get CNN International in the US now? Probably you didn't because we don't like to reveal sources and methods.

Posted by: CIA Agency PR (Deepcover) at February 21, 2022 05:25 PM (dYe5S)

154 Heard jeb the fuck bush on with cavuto...my G-D jeb is still weak like Fredo. He was actually praising biden for his, and get this, foreign policy. Ya can't make this shit up
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2022 05:10 PM

I can handle things! I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect!

Posted by: Jeb "Fredo" Bush at February 21, 2022 05:25 PM (EughT)

155 The moment the intel professionals become politicized, and their information becomes politicized, it ceases to be an intelligence organization. And the nations state fails.
Leaders, whether you like 'em or hate 'em, must have clean, unfettered information. Without that, the cost of failure will be measure in treasury, blood and liberty.
Posted by: Diogenes
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The Swiss seem to do ok.
We don't have to be a superpower that meddles in everyone's business. We can be a superpower who leaves everyone alone.

Posted by: Drc at February 21, 2022 05:26 PM (vbaSG)

156 As far as I can tell, the CIA hasn't had a major foreign presence since the '90s. They seem to do all their work here at home.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 21, 2022 05:23 PM (SKVme)

They were all over the fall of the Berlin Wall. As soon as they saw it on TV, they told their bosses about it.
And 9/11? Man, they barely had to leave their office to find out about that one. On 9/12, they told their bosses all about that one.
Benghazi? Sure, they missed that, too, but what difference does that make now, anyway?

Remind me again why we pay these clowns.

Posted by: Wally at February 21, 2022 05:26 PM (FJYfm)

157 The DOJ, FBI, and CIA are the Axis of Evil that most threatens the safety and liberty of the American people.

Back in the day - here - that was bannable. Would have been, by Maet. Times, they are a changin'.

Posted by: Stayin' Alive at February 21, 2022 05:12 PM (SuDUO)

Like ace with 'cuck,' and so much else... Just typing the word 'revolution' was frowned upon here. Now we openly discuss the divorce/cwii.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 21, 2022 05:26 PM (cvNl1)

158 122 107 94 Look at the bills and issues Gabbard supported when she was in Congress. She isn't a moderate.
Posted by: Marcus T, Recovering at February 21, 2022 05:12 PM (LjX+p)
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She is probably friends with all the hawaiin judges

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at February 21, 2022 05:26 PM (M+Lyo)

159 Look at the bills and issues Gabbard supported when she was in Congress. She isn't a moderate.
Posted by: Marcus T
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And Glen Greenwald is a self described socialist and Joe Rogan endorsed Bernie Sanders, doesn't mean though they can't offer something to the discussion that helps our side.

Posted by: Blago at February 21, 2022 05:26 PM (9Wvcs)

160 Russia invading Ukraine would be like America invading Mexico.

All they'd gain in more third world shit hole mouths to feed.

And whatever the Ukrainian version of the donkey woman of Juarez is.

And maybe borscht tacos or some other ethnic slop.

Posted by: Booter Licker, formerly Bitter Clinger at February 21, 2022 05:26 PM (j681p)

161 Haven't read all of the comments, so forgive me if I am late in saying this...don't forget the Dee acHhhh eSss.

Posted by: Lotta nerve at February 21, 2022 05:27 PM (JdcHc)

162 cf Pournelle's Iron Law of Bureaucracy.

Posted by: Duncanthrax

Yes. If you can also get C. Northcote Parkinson's works, I highly recommend them. Jerry derived his law from Parkinson's political philosophy books.

Posted by: whig at February 21, 2022 05:27 PM (Iq9dF)

163 So many citizens carrying guns these days a terrorist will have a hard time getting his job done. No trial either.

CA & NY excluded

Posted by: Braenyard at February 21, 2022 05:27 PM (r/d3+)

164 She's running to the Middle. The question everyone should ask is WHY?

I think it is a combination of a few things.

1) She took on Hillary and Kamala so both the Clinton and Obama factions HATE her - she isn't getting back in power unless she does an end around.

2) She *is a leftist*, but her voting record is likely to the left of her actual views - her father is somewhat conservative and she expressed some issues with the gay crap the Dems had just started pushing early in her career. Remember, 10 years ago just about any leftwing Democrat would have claimed what they believe now was a bunch of weird conspiracy theory stuff no one would ever believe in.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 21, 2022 05:27 PM (ESjRY)

165 Shortly after Putins decree, the White House announced President Joe Biden would issue an executive order preventing U.S. trade with the separatist regions and sanctions on any individuals doing business there.

Laughable

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2022 05:28 PM (Irn0L)

166 there are probably 3-4 countries that maintain one on all the Americans they can identify.
Posted by: West at February 21, 2022 05:25 PM

Starting with root access to the OMB security clearance database helps a lot!

Posted by: China Sys Admin at February 21, 2022 05:28 PM (EughT)

167 159 Look at the bills and issues Gabbard supported when she was in Congress. She isn't a moderate.
Posted by: Marcus T
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And Glen Greenwald is a self described socialist and Joe Rogan endorsed Bernie Sanders, doesn't mean though they can't offer something to the discussion that helps our side.
Posted by: Blago at February 21, 2022 05:26 PM (9Wvcs)

Use the good stuff, leave the rest.

Posted by: kraken at February 21, 2022 05:28 PM (Vr12I)

168 The impeachment vote was very telling, since virtually every member knew the charges were based on lies at the time they voted.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at February 21, 2022 05:28 PM (5kI0z)

169 They're the Axis of Assholes!

Posted by: Weasel at February 21, 2022 05:28 PM (0IeYL)

170 @120

>>By the way our good friends the Saudi's told build back better biden to fuck off when he asked them to pump more oil

It was 3.89 a gallon at BP, 4.35 for diesel.

Biden Junta: Why the hell is the cost of everything going up???

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 21, 2022 05:28 PM (BxACj)

171 135
Posted by: illiniwek at February 21, 2022 05:21 PM (Cus5s)

We flipped the Ukranian government in 2014 (though the current pres is a different guy). Russia went in and 'occupied' the pro-Russian (and ethnically Russian) parts of Ukraine, which also hold a significant military port for them that they have a long working relationship with.

I think Putin may hope to diplomatically reintegrate the rest of Ukraine over time, so this approach of recognizing these territories as independent is somewhat less aggressive than immediately formally annexing them as member states. By comparison, if Russia attempted to go into Poland again diplomacy likely wouldn't be considered (Poland would never agree).

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 21, 2022 05:28 PM (z5Vrg)

172 Wasting no time, Putin has taken the next step:

"Russian President Vladimir Putin has reportedly ordered troops to Ukraine's separatist regions to carry out "peacekeeping functions" hours after stoking global condemnation for signaling his intention to recognize the breakaway areas."

Posted by: WisRich at February 21, 2022 05:28 PM (G0vdT)

173 Lord help me I think even Jeb would be a better *resident than Joe.

Posted by: fd at February 21, 2022 05:28 PM (vrz2I)

174 Oops

Posted by: WisRich at February 21, 2022 05:29 PM (G0vdT)

175 Russia invading Ukraine would be like America invading Mexico.

All they'd gain in more third world shit hole mouths to feed.

And whatever the Ukrainian version of the donkey woman of Juarez is.

And maybe borscht tacos or some other ethnic slop.
Posted by: Booter Licker, formerly Bitter Clinger at February 21, 2022 05:26 PM (j681p)

More than beets grow in Ukraine right?

Posted by: Draki at February 21, 2022 05:29 PM (lWEsI)

176 My shocked face is no longer under warrantee. To many miles on it.

Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at February 21, 2022 05:29 PM (Adlwz)

177 "Russian President Vladimir Putin has reportedly ordered troops to Ukraine's separatist regions to carry out "peacekeeping functions" hours after stoking global condemnation for signaling his intention to recognize the breakaway areas."

Posted by: WisRich at February 21, 2022 05:29 PM (G0vdT)

178 Sounds like Tom Clancy was just a bit off in most of his work.

Posted by: Pete Seria at February 21, 2022 05:29 PM (7ZQe3)

179 It's her only way to get back in power...she needs to end-run Hillary to the moderate position (b/c they hate each other) and then needs to have a democratic wipeout this November so she can play the "I told you we went too far" card as the new savior Pres or VP nominee...
Posted by: Nova local at February 21, 2022 05:20 PM (exHjb)

Of course Hilary hates her.
Younger.
Smarter
Better looking
And got there on her own and not riding hubbys coattails.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 21, 2022 05:30 PM (axyOa)

180 163 So many citizens carrying guns these days a terrorist will have a hard time getting his job done. No trial either.

CA & NY excluded

Posted by: Braenyard at February 21, 2022 05:27 PM (r/d3+)

I imagine that little detail is high on the Fascist agenda to " clean up".

Posted by: kraken at February 21, 2022 05:30 PM (Vr12I)

181 Putin orders 'peacekeeping operation' in eastern Ukraine
Russian President orders peacekeepers to Donetsk and Luhansk regions of eastern Ukraine, hours after recognizing independence of separatist groups there.

Putin must be wetting his pants, he is laughing so hard

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2022 05:30 PM (Irn0L)

182 The CIA is prohibited from spying on Americans... as long as they don't get caught. Then someone with standing would have to sue to make them stop.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 21, 2022 05:30 PM (R8uWY)

183 Like ace with 'cuck,' and so much else... Just typing the word 'revolution' was frowned upon here. Now we openly discuss the divorce/cwii.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider
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This used to be a high class joint.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 21, 2022 05:31 PM (r/d3+)

184 LOL.. So Putin "trumped" Joe and the Ho.....

Posted by: It's me donna at February 21, 2022 05:31 PM (J8ILO)

185 Putin announced his decision in a conversation with French President Emanuel Macron and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz.

Scholz said that Russia would be in violation of the 2015 Minsk agreements if it went ahead with the move.

This guy Scholz has deep insights?????

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2022 05:31 PM (Irn0L)

186 Under such circumstances, you cannot reform such organizations.
Posted by: whig at February 21, 2022 05:22 PM (Iq9dF)

Remove all the executive branch agencies from close proximity to Washington DC, immediately. As far as possible.

We may think we all live in a digital online world, but DC lives in an elbow rubbing, lickspittle and smooching chat-em-up world that you and I would never recognize as common citizens. It was a mistake that can be rectified by executive order in 10 minutes after a President so willing is sworn in - and then all these kissy face political agencies, ie the CIA, the FBI, the DOJ, the DNI, the FDA, the DOE, etc, etc etc - would be ripped apart and de-populated - 90% of the employees would immediately quit and apply to some media outlet like CBS, ABC, NBC or cable news shit hole like CNN and MSNBC immediately - because that's what they are really - infotainment media whores.

Posted by: Boswell at February 21, 2022 05:32 PM (5iUNf)

187 Wait I thought Mitt Romney died. Oh wait, that was John McCain. Huh. Easy mistake, I know.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at February 21, 2022 05:32 PM (OssQ4)

188 The cia/oss has been a corrupt out of control organization since WWII when Wild bill donovan was in charge. They went way outside their charter during the war.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at February 21, 2022 05:32 PM (bVYXr)

189 >>Scholz said that Russia would be in violation of the 2015 Minsk agreements if it went ahead with the move.

The Minsk agreements that they were avoiding up until that very statement?

Posted by: Stuxnet at February 21, 2022 05:32 PM (RgQFj)

190 185

This guy Scholz has deep insights?????
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2022 05:31 PM (Irn0L)

Is he "Dr" Scholz?

Posted by: kraken at February 21, 2022 05:33 PM (Vr12I)

191 Lord help me I think even Jeb would be a better *resident than Joe.

Just another Deep State puppet with maybe somewhat superior cognitive function.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 21, 2022 05:33 PM (Xrfse)

192 Sounds like Tom Clancy was just a bit off in most of his work.

*

Jeez, I haven't thought about that.

I bet I couldn't read the old Tom Clancy stuff any more.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - holy men warn what happens if you play Rogan podcasts backwards at February 21, 2022 05:33 PM (1R3Bo)

193 "Under the Emergencies Act, I've asked our solicitor and our city manager, 'how can we keep the tow trucks and the campers and the vans and everything else that we've confiscated, and sell those pieces of equipment to help recoup some of the costs that our taxpayers are absorbing?'" Watson (Ottawa mayor) told state media.

Everything not explicitly prohibited is permissible under the emergency act.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 21, 2022 05:34 PM (R8uWY)

194 Edward Snowden told us years ago what they were doing and they just ramped it up because there were no repercussions from Republicans. They saw it as an endorsement. Even now I don't hear much from most of the Repubs when they should be all linking arms in front of the Congress and invite everyone else who objects to this.

Nancy wouldn't dare call out the National Guard on McTurtle and McCarthy and that's why they are not doing it.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at February 21, 2022 05:34 PM (N2gf7)

195 Yes. If you can also get C. Northcote Parkinson's works, I highly recommend them. Jerry derived his law from Parkinson's political philosophy books.
Posted by: whig at February 21, 2022 05:27 PM

Also Gresham's Law, I believe.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 21, 2022 05:34 PM (a3Q+t)

196 I can handle things! I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect!

Posted by: Jeb "Fredo" Bush
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The Bush's relied on their retainers for their smarts just like the Kennedy's.

Go back and review what GHWB said during the collapse of the Berlin Wall, etc. and tell me that it was profound. Personally, I think Maggie indicated that GHWB was a lightweight when she told him, 'Don't go Wobbly' about Kuwait.

Posted by: whig at February 21, 2022 05:34 PM (Iq9dF)

197 And of course he skated, because they're all literally above the law, and they know it, and they act like they know they're above the law.

Posted by: Ace at 04:50 PM

How many ~~divisions~~ LE's does Congress have?

Posted by: Lying bureaucrats at February 21, 2022 05:34 PM (hOMhY)

198 182 The CIA is prohibited from spying on Americans... as long as they don't get caught. Then someone with standing would have to sue to make them stop.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 21, 2022 05:30 PM (R8uWY)

It already happened so it's moot. Sue in advance next time.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 21, 2022 05:34 PM (z5Vrg)

199 Biden Admin. rejects Bennett's criticism of Iran nuke deal
State Department spokesperson says Israeli defense officials agree withdrawal from Iran nuclear deal was a mistake which can't be repeated

Iranian appeasement is right around the corner, to follow up on biden's great success in Afghanistan and Ukraine.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2022 05:35 PM (Irn0L)

200 "Just another Deep State puppet with maybe somewhat superior cognitive function.
Posted by: Notorious BFD"

I'm trying to think of something he would be better at to justify my position.

Posted by: fd at February 21, 2022 05:35 PM (vrz2I)

201 > Sounds like Tom Clancy was just a bit off in most of his work.

Rainbow Six, maybe not so much.

Posted by: me at February 21, 2022 05:35 PM (9p+wn)

202 Also Gresham's Law, I believe.

Posted by: Duncanthrax
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Probably, I miss Jerry and his Chaos Manor updates a lot these days.

Posted by: whig at February 21, 2022 05:35 PM (Iq9dF)

203 Heh, Putin is sending "Peacekeeping forces" into Ukraine, kinda like the UN peacekeeping forces except not as corrupt. Well, maybe not as corrupt.

Posted by: WisRich at February 21, 2022 05:35 PM (G0vdT)

204 This used to be a high class joint.
Posted by: Braenyard at February 21, 2022 05:31 PM

Will you be shocked to learn there is wagering?

Posted by: Quatloos at February 21, 2022 05:36 PM (a3Q+t)

205 I wonder if Clancy would have been NeverTrump?

Posted by: kraken at February 21, 2022 05:36 PM (Vr12I)

206 Rainbow Six, maybe not so much.
Posted by: me

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real world rainbow 6, the guy who shot ashli babbit.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at February 21, 2022 05:36 PM (ZZK0E)

207 State Department spokesperson says Israeli defense officials agree withdrawal from Iran nuclear deal was a mistake which can't be repeated

Israel's Defense officials agree.. ? I doubt that

Posted by: It's me donna at February 21, 2022 05:36 PM (J8ILO)

208 re: clancy and anti-trump, no one from 1980 would or could imagine present day America 2.0.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at February 21, 2022 05:37 PM (ZZK0E)

209 >>This used to be a high class joint.

Even then, for $20 you could get ace to show you his Ping-Pong Ball Trick.

Posted by: garrett at February 21, 2022 05:37 PM (RgQFj)

210 My shocked face is no longer under warrantee. To many miles on it.

I had a 10 year supply of disposables. They ran out mid-2020.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 21, 2022 05:37 PM (Xrfse)

211 @204

>>Will you be shocked to learn there is wagering?

And you do not want to know what happens in The Champagne Room.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 21, 2022 05:37 PM (BxACj)

212 The cold war ended with the Berlin wall.

If they are foxes and we are lions, then it will end mostly peaceful, and on our terms mostly.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at February 21, 2022 05:37 PM (tRexl)

213 and remember, the CIA won't spy on actual muslims because that wouldn't be PC. When they say the only threat is WS...they mean white folks are the only ones they're allowed to go after.

BLM/Antifa are just movements after all.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at February 21, 2022 05:38 PM (ZZK0E)

214 Probably, I miss Jerry and his Chaos Manor updates a lot these days.
Posted by: whig at February 21, 2022 05:35 PM

I do, too.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at February 21, 2022 05:38 PM (a3Q+t)

215 Have we asked the ham-and-eggers what they think of this story?!

Posted by: Sean Hannity at February 21, 2022 05:38 PM (+cioT)

216 And Glen Greenwald is a self described socialist and Joe Rogan endorsed Bernie Sanders, doesn't mean though they can't offer something to the discussion that helps our side.
Posted by: Blago at February 21, 2022 05:26 PM (9Wvcs)

I'm confused. What's to discuss beyond 5am raids, helicopter rides and prison time?

Posted by: ... at February 21, 2022 05:38 PM (dscaa)

217 I would guess Russian "peacekeeping forces" are going to be somewhat less rapey then the UN type.

Posted by: 18-1 at February 21, 2022 05:38 PM (ESjRY)

218 "This used to be a high class joint."

Before the dress code allowed crocs.

Posted by: fd at February 21, 2022 05:38 PM (vrz2I)

219 Remove all the executive branch agencies from close proximity to Washington DC, immediately. As far as possible.

Posted by: Boswell at February 21, 2022 05:32 PM (5iUNf)

And you forgot shielded by friendly juries in DC. If they were ever tried.

Posted by: Golfman at February 21, 2022 05:39 PM (hOMhY)

220 I would guess Russian "peacekeeping forces" are going to be somewhat less rapey then the UN type.
Posted by: 18-1 at February 21, 2022 05:38 PM (ESjRY)

It's harder to get it up when your drunk on Vodka

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2022 05:39 PM (Irn0L)

221 CIA, forever in the anal of history.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at February 21, 2022 05:39 PM (jtBzq)

222
"You're safe. You're welcome."

- Your "Our Democracy" Overlords

Posted by: Auspex at February 21, 2022 05:39 PM (Xo3T0)

223 I guess Clancy is sci-fi now.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - holy men warn what happens if you play Rogan podcasts backwards at February 21, 2022 05:40 PM (1R3Bo)

224 "This used to be a high class joint."

Before the dress code allowed crocs.

Posted by: fd at February 21, 2022 05:38 PM (vrz2I)

The holes are where your dignity leaks out.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at February 21, 2022 05:40 PM (cvNl1)

225 And Glen Greenwald is a self described socialist and Joe Rogan endorsed Bernie Sanders, doesn't mean though they can't offer something to the discussion that helps our side.

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well, Glenn is interesting. He rejected most of old school Western Civ bc, you know, we rejected gays. I think he's horrified to learn that commies are just jackboot Karens who want to smash dissidents of all stripes in the face. He's happy running an animal rescue somewhere far the fuck away from here.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at February 21, 2022 05:40 PM (ZZK0E)

226 Mistakes were made, and some low level clerk in Cleveland will take the rap.

Posted by: Bete at February 21, 2022 05:40 PM (F9322)

227 How long before Putin is in Cahoots with Trump to Make Aviators "look bad"?

Posted by: ... at February 21, 2022 05:40 PM (dscaa)

228 181 Putin orders 'peacekeeping operation' in eastern Ukraine
Russian President orders peacekeepers to Donetsk and Luhansk regions of eastern Ukraine, hours after recognizing independence of separatist groups there.

Posted by: Nevergiveup
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Slow talking Joe
Slow walking Joe
It has and eerie Afghanistanish feel to it.
Mouth once more overloaded.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 21, 2022 05:41 PM (r/d3+)

229 emove all the executive branch agencies from close proximity to Washington DC, immediately. As far as possible.

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next GOP pres HAS to do this. everything thug in the federal govt is protected by the DC-GITMO judiciary and their batshit insane liberal asshole juries.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at February 21, 2022 05:41 PM (ZZK0E)

230 Everything not explicitly prohibited is permissible under the emergency act.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 21, 2022 05:34 PM (R8uWY)

Hey, why not just decree that he can shoot you dead, take your house, your wife, your kids and all your cash assets for him and his men? I mean, you can clearly see he wants to say that. What keeps him from just saying what we all know he's thinking? Smirking to yourself inside is not really hiding as much as this dirt bag thinks it is...

Posted by: Boswell at February 21, 2022 05:41 PM (5iUNf)

231 Wyden vs Blumenthal in who's the mostest tard.
DC is jammed to the rafters with creatures as these.

Posted by: micky at February 21, 2022 05:42 PM (3byMq)

232 > real world rainbow 6, the guy who shot ashli babbit.

Well, I was speaking more to the clot shot plot...

Posted by: me at February 21, 2022 05:42 PM (9p+wn)

233 The holes are where your dignity leaks out

Educational videos on the Internet would lead me to believe that's not dignity.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at February 21, 2022 05:42 PM (KFhLj)

234 Branco cartoon: Deplorable

https://tinyurl.com/ycxtnc39

Legal Insurrection link.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at February 21, 2022 05:42 PM (OssQ4)

235 Did the Canadian nominal opposition actually do anything today? Or just a little more snark at Castro?

Posted by: 18-1 at February 21, 2022 05:43 PM (ESjRY)

236 twitter account, Russians With Attitude are transcribing Putin's speech (find the link via Cernovich). Kind of interesting, the Ukraine, says pootie, is a Leninist creation which ... was a bad itdea.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at February 21, 2022 05:43 PM (ZZK0E)

237 Putin should have accused them of AGW violations, and said he was sending in the military to shut down coal plants.

Just for laughs.

Posted by: I am not Montel Williams at February 21, 2022 05:43 PM (Q5Hgr)

238 Joe Rogan endorsed Bernie Sanders
Posted by: Blago at February 21, 2022 05:26 PM (9Wvcs)
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Tulsi Gabbard, I thought, but I agree any one who supports the Bill of Rights should be heard even if their politics aren't my flavor.

Posted by: Sean Hannity at February 21, 2022 05:43 PM (+cioT)

239 "Putin may hope to diplomatically reintegrate the rest of Ukraine over time, so this approach of recognizing these territories as independent is somewhat less aggressive than immediately formally annexing them as member states." Posted by: Red Turban Someguy

thx, yeah, that is my impression. I didn't realize those tow regions (I think) had some active fighting against Western Ukraine. So Putin moving troops in is ? perhaps welcomed by most in those two areas. And VegHead Biden already said he would allow them to insert ... "just the tip".

Posted by: illiniwek at February 21, 2022 05:43 PM (Cus5s)

240 Really? No, could it be?

Oh, but there's '17 disturbing things Snowden has taught us (so far),' the world dot org, Global Politics, July 2013, updated June 2015

Posted by: Lola at February 21, 2022 05:44 PM (xjz83)

241 so basically, putin's using the "Iraq and Kuwait are just lines drawn on a map" thing from the early no blood for oil days in the 90s.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at February 21, 2022 05:44 PM (ZZK0E)

242 I promise not to do that thing in your mouth.

Posted by: The CIA at February 21, 2022 05:44 PM (bqcn9)

243 229 emove all the executive branch agencies from close proximity to Washington DC, immediately. As far as possible.

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next GOP pres HAS to do this. everything thug in the federal govt is protected by the DC-GITMO judiciary and their batshit insane liberal asshole juries.
Posted by: Tim Riggins at February 21, 2022 05:41 PM (ZZK0E)

Better idea - just eliminate DC Federal court from jurisdiction from federal gov actions or non-DC residents...have a "random" court take all cases brought. Guarantees they have to infiltrate all courts to try to not get caught, and that's harder than 1...

Posted by: Nova local at February 21, 2022 05:44 PM (exHjb)

244 LOL, Putin is using the US model, what's good for Bosnia and Montenegro is good for Lugansk and Donetsk.

Posted by: runner at February 21, 2022 05:45 PM (V13WU)

245 Any word from Canada today on the fate of the brave protestors for freedom, or has the cone of silence descended?

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at February 21, 2022 05:45 PM (+cioT)

246 244

Using my evenings working on screenplays and reading classic novels. Right now I'm halfway through Dante's Inferno. Did you know there's a "She-Wolf Of Incontinence"?

- I've become addicted to funny 'reels' videos on FB. Check out The Pasinis.

- And, I got an air fryer for Christmas and have fallen in love with it. I think it's about to file a restraining order.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 21, 2022 05:44 PM (ewQpW)

Don't forget to occasionally go outside, steve.

Posted by: kraken at February 21, 2022 05:46 PM (Vr12I)

247 213 Tim Riggins your right as BLM and ANTIFA are just thoughts not real organizations

Posted by: Skip at February 21, 2022 05:46 PM (2JoB8)

248 I think I liked that CIA more.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, learning Bushido with Kurosawa at February 21, 2022 04:56 PM (LvTSG)

But they sucked at it. Hell, they couldn't overthrow a bunch of commies 90 miles from Florida.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 21, 2022 05:47 PM (XIJ/X)

249 Did the Canadian nominal opposition actually do anything today? Or just a little more snark at Castro?

They honored Moose Out Front for his 30 years of service, gave him an extra large engraved watch and called it a day.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 21, 2022 05:47 PM (Xrfse)

250 And maybe borscht tacos or some other ethnic slop.
Posted by: Booter Licker, formerly Bitter Clinger at February 21, 2022 05:26 PM (j681p)

Lot's of arable land

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at February 21, 2022 05:47 PM (M+Lyo)

251 can barely read that putin thread. ok whatever, guy, you want the ukraine and there are reasons

Posted by: Tim Riggins at February 21, 2022 05:47 PM (ZZK0E)

252 I'm confused. What's to discuss beyond 5am raids, helicopter rides and prison time?
Posted by: ... at February 21, 2022 05:38 PM (dscaa)
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Ever see that interview show Bill Shatner did?

Rogan and Shatner are both liberals but they do their homework and allow and facilitate the guest. No skewing with their politics. They are exemplars of a free country.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 21, 2022 05:47 PM (r/d3+)

253 After the spirit of limited government and individual liberty died in the souls of half the country, the Republic tottered on for awhile because watchdogs lived on in the form of a free press and legal institutions that cared about such things.

Now, not so much.

Posted by: Zek at February 21, 2022 05:47 PM (OzNIz)

254 246 Any word from Canada today on the fate of the brave protestors for freedom, or has the cone of silence descended?
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at February 21, 2022 05:45 PM (+cioT)

Shiny object Ukraine has America's attention now.

Posted by: kraken at February 21, 2022 05:47 PM (Vr12I)

255 Tim Riggins your right as BLM and ANTIFA are just thoughts not real organizations
Posted by: Skip

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that's what the Wray said. How can we investigate a group of people who get together and burn down buildings and hold fundraisers when they're doing it for a reason we agree with. It's a movement.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at February 21, 2022 05:48 PM (ZZK0E)

256 I have always thought this but now it is in the open, we all know why certain Chief Justices of the SCOTUS vote the way he does.... and so many other things.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 21, 2022 05:49 PM (iDcra)

257 I'm confused. What's to discuss beyond 5am raids, helicopter rides and prison time?
Posted by: ... at February 21, 2022 05:38 PM (dscaa)
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whoa whoa whooo...we can't use those tactics because then, you see, the left would use them against us.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at February 21, 2022 05:49 PM (ZZK0E)

258 Did you know there's a "She-Wolf Of Incontinence"?

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 21, 2022 05:44 PM

Hillary? Good to see you, Steve, hope you are well.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at February 21, 2022 05:49 PM (OssQ4)

259 Tim Riggins your right as BLM and ANTIFA are just thoughts not real organizations
Posted by: Skip

Well Riggins was a damn good running back

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 21, 2022 05:49 PM (Irn0L)

260 that pallet of bricks just delivered itself, along with the uhaul truck full of signs and bats.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at February 21, 2022 05:49 PM (ZZK0E)

261 >>But they sucked at it. Hell, they couldn't overthrow a bunch of commies 90 miles from Florida.

Ironically, they did help overthrown the elected government in Ukraine in 2014 that was friendly to Putin and installed Petro Poreshenko, our puppet, which really pissed off Putin.

And here we are.

Posted by: JackStraw at February 21, 2022 05:50 PM (ZLI7S)

262 I think it's about to file a restraining order.
Posted by: qdpsteve at February 21, 2022 05:44 PM (ewQpW)
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Just remember to let the grease cool down.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 21, 2022 05:50 PM (r/d3+)

263 There has always been a group like the OSS, CIA, ONI etc. since the beginning of the revolution.

And they've always done things against the current morality against their fellow revolutionaries, the colonists, the citizens, whoever they needed to infiltrate and discover what they (their opposition) was doing, thinking, planning.

They've always excused their unconstitutional actions because of "reasons" mostly to do with protecting the nation, the citizens, the government, them.

And they've always been from the same or similar group of people namely the Ivies, the rich, the corporate barons, the big money men and of course those with connections to the other countries whether our allies or enemies.

It's always been such as this that has made their organization and operation an US vs THEM and much of the time the THEM has been the citizens of the US. Doesn't excuse it just sayin' it's always been there always been the same people, same class of people and we'll never be rid of them because they are who they are. Rich, powerful, connected and in control.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 21, 2022 05:51 PM (+Nm6D)

264 Hey there, qdpsteve !

Posted by: runner at February 21, 2022 05:51 PM (V13WU)

265 Good to see ya.

Posted by: runner at February 21, 2022 05:51 PM (V13WU)

266 Better idea - just eliminate DC Federal court from jurisdiction from federal gov actions or non-DC residents...have a "random" court take all cases brought. Guarantees they have to infiltrate all courts to try to not get caught, and that's harder than 1...
Posted by: Nova local at February 21, 2022 05:44 PM (exHjb)

Removal from DC of all executive branch agencies will render the DC Federal court moot - no one would want it or consider it a stepping-stone to anything. Judge Mehta would finally devolve into the judge that was certainly the destiny of judicial competence - a nobody going nowhere anytime soon.

Posted by: Boswell at February 21, 2022 05:51 PM (5iUNf)

267 The Kenosha Kid will be on TuCa tonight.

Posted by: Jmel at February 21, 2022 05:52 PM (bVhJi)

268 Why do the wicked prosper?-Some thoughts on this and faith from "Got Questions" a Chistian religious site exploring the Bible:

https://tinyurl.com/2p85tdft

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at February 21, 2022 05:52 PM (GezNK)

269 But they sucked at it. Hell, they couldn't overthrow a bunch of commies 90 miles from Florida.

Ironically, they did help overthrown the elected government in Ukraine in 2014 that was friendly to Putin and installed Petro Poreshenko, our puppet, which really pissed off Putin.

And here we are.
Posted by: JackStraw at February 21, 2022 05:50 PM (ZLI7S)

It was bound to come back and bite.

Posted by: runner at February 21, 2022 05:52 PM (V13WU)

270 It's always been such as this that has made their organization and operation an US vs THEM and much of the time the THEM has been the citizens of the US. ...

Posted by: jakee308 at February 21, 2022 05:51 PM (+Nm6D)
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Sounds like a labor management issue.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 21, 2022 05:53 PM (r/d3+)

271 "This used to be a high class joint."

Before the dress code allowed crocs.

Posted by: fd at February 21, 2022 05:38 PM (vrz2I)

The holes are where your dignity leaks out.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider
===

SPOILER ALERT: your dignity has leaked out before you can put your crocs on.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 21, 2022 05:53 PM (iDcra)

272 I really like Mike Pompeo but being the one-time head of the CIA makes me wonder. A lot. And by a lot I mean a shit ton. So much that I can't support him and his aspirations of becoming President. Did a great job as SOS but...

Posted by: Seems Legit at February 21, 2022 05:53 PM (DcKNO)

273 Oh, Hillary.

https://tinyurl.com/3h7pp9e5

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at February 21, 2022 05:53 PM (sxFm4)

274 Any word from Canada today on the fate of the brave protestors for freedom, or has the cone of silence descended?
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at February 21, 2022 05:45 PM (+cioT)

Shiny object Ukraine has America's attention now.
Posted by: kraken at February 21, 2022 05:47 PM (Vr12I)

The list of contributors to the truckers is complete and delivered. The list of Ghislain Maxwell's customers...not so much.

Posted by: Diogenes at February 21, 2022 05:54 PM (axyOa)

275 Maybe Putin is crazy and is planning some sort of Hitler (Stalin)-style invasion as a prelude to World War III like Biden was talking up. More likely it might be the idea of a Franco-Prussian War style quick war to take a capital city and force territorial concessions by armistice agreement. But seems more likely to me that Putin was just playing up those ideas (mostly by feeding US IC types nonsense) for the sole purpose of making this recognition/takeover of the breakaway regions feel like a relief to Biden (and the EU, to the extent they matter).

Posted by: CIA Agency PR (Deepcover) at February 21, 2022 05:54 PM (dYe5S)

276 Viva Frei is on the vote for Trudeau's Totally Emergency Act. If nothing shows live on yt expect to see something posted from him on rumble. No idea when the vote is to take place but it is today.

Posted by: micky at February 21, 2022 05:54 PM (3byMq)

277 Triple vaxxed Neil Cavuto (Pfizer whore) has now gotten COVID twice in a span of four months & nearly died from pneumonia but insists the vaccines are the best thing ever!!! https://t.co/Srp8JdPptm

Cavuto had also tested positive for COVID-19 back in October, saying at the time he was told it would've been a "far more dire situation" had he not been vaccinated. The journalist then encouraged others to get vaccinated.

Aaron Rupar
@atrupar
Fox News/Business host Neil Cavuto explains on air that he was out for a while because he was hospitalized with Covid, adds, "doctors say that had I not been vaccinated at all, I wouldn't be here."
"I'm not here to debate vaccinations for you. Just offer an explanation for me."
twitter.com/atrupar/status/1495815406677803009
9:39 AM � Feb 21, 2022

Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at February 21, 2022 05:55 PM (MFZ8i)

278 If MKUltra can't get an agency disbanded pretty much nothing can.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at February 21, 2022 05:55 PM (KFhLj)

279 Removal from DC of all executive branch agencies will render the DC Federal court moot - no one would want it or consider it a stepping-stone to anything. Judge Mehta would finally devolve into the judge that was certainly the destiny of judicial competence - a nobody going nowhere anytime soon.
Posted by: Boswell at February 21, 2022 05:51 PM (5iUNf)

But then the agencies just make the next court where they are found as corrupt. Again, better to exclude DC federal court from having any jurisdiction and instead assign cases randomly based on, heck, a lottery draw. I'd even suggest county and state courts get a chance to host DC federal government lawlessness cases...

Posted by: Nova local at February 21, 2022 05:55 PM (exHjb)

280 Wyden is a leftist dipstick but he's good on this kind of thing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2022 05:55 PM (KZzsI)

281 Frank Church, call your office.

Posted by: Queequeg the Harpooner at February 21, 2022 05:56 PM (9X60i)

282 Hilary will be the next President. The theme will be no more white men.

Posted by: Jamaica Queens at February 21, 2022 05:56 PM (b+v9B)

283 "You never did. The Kenosha Kid."

Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions at February 21, 2022 05:56 PM (J0+rx)

284 Shall we just face one thing up front with no shill shallying around?

This nation, this country this ideal has always and ever been a function of the rich, powerful, and connected from the very beginning it was never some sort of grass roots outraged peons revolting against the evil monarchy. It's always been them against those who were their peers but were in control and the battle has always been about who is in control not some sort of ideal about freedom, liberty, or other such nonsense. That's all propaganda to arose the peasants into providing the cannon fodder and appearance of good so as to increase the likelihood of success of "this" sides money men and controllers.
We've discovered a lot about our government in the last 5 years and this here is about the top of the shitty pile. It's all been a scam from day one. All of it. The claims of fair elections (right, sure with polling places miles away from each other and only horses to travel yeah they were all done honestly) It got harder to keep it quiet during these the first years of our technological revolution but they did it. It's just gotten easier and easier with more tech putting the controls in fewer hands.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 21, 2022 05:58 PM (+Nm6D)

285 Triple vaxxed Neil Cavuto (Pfizer whore) has now gotten COVID twice in a span of four months

Likely one or the other test was fake and he had the seasonal flu.

But...yeah...wow...the clot shot is so effective.

Just like all those people who got polio, twice, after getting their polio vaccine...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 21, 2022 05:58 PM (ESjRY)

286 Cavuto the Crapster has very compromised immune system.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 21, 2022 05:58 PM (r/d3+)

287 If MKUltra can't get an agency disbanded pretty much nothing can.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls

Laurel Canyon sure did produce some great Boomer music, though. The best music that ever was, or ever will be, to hear Boomers talk about it.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at February 21, 2022 05:58 PM (OssQ4)

288 "Clearly erroneous" dude. You said the exact opposite of truth, deliberately. That's just a lie. A deliberate lie under oath.

But as ACE says, not like its gonna matter. The left never suffers any consequences for lies to congress. Oaths mean nothing to them, or congress.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 21, 2022 05:58 PM (KZzsI)

289 >>He would later explain his perjury as an attempt to give "the least untruthful answer [he] could."

instant classic

Posted by: DB at February 21, 2022 05:58 PM (geLO8)

290 @269 It was bound to come back and bite.

----

Well, it hasn't bitten us, yet, and any repercussions are likely still a ways off. But if you're in Ukraine it sucks. Probably especially if you're one of the majority of voters that threw Poreshenko out in 2019.

Posted by: junior at February 21, 2022 05:58 PM (iDg0C)

291 Aaron Rupar
@atrupar
Fox News/Business host Neil Cavuto explains on air that he was out for a while because he was hospitalized with Covid, adds, "doctors say that had I not been vaccinated at all, I wouldn't be here."
"I'm not here to debate vaccinations for you. Just offer an explanation for me."
twitter.com/atrupar/status/1495815406677803009
9:39 AM Feb 21, 2022
Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe at February 21, 2022 05:55 PM (MFZ8i)

Hucksters have been pulling that line for 50,000 years to excuse why their magical cure didn't work. I hope that Cavuto is just lying about doctors buying the "reduces symptoms" nonsense, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Posted by: Oldcat at February 21, 2022 05:58 PM (eoQWY)

292 The CIA, the FBI, the DOJ, the NSA; all they have ever done was miss known terrorists until the terror attacks were over and showing up at people's doors for donating to conservative causes.

The problem is there is not one person who would have the balls to defund these homeland terrorists.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 21, 2022 05:59 PM (XSRBF)

293 Mark Brzezinski, an Obama-era diplomat, was sworn in as the Ambassador of the U. S. to Poland on December 22, 2021.

In January, Poland began building a new wall, along its border with Belarus, aimed at keeping migrants out of the country & the European Union.

Why can't the USA have consistent migrant deterring walls?

Posted by: Lola at February 21, 2022 05:59 PM (xjz83)

294 277 Triple vaxxed Neil Cavuto (Pfizer whore) has now gotten COVID twice in a span of four months & nearly died from pneumonia but insists the vaccines are the best thing ever!!! https://t.co/Srp8JdPptm

he got COVID after his booster, didn't he? All my daughter's friends got COVID the week after their (college-imposed) boosters. And many of them had previously HAD the thing. Didn't matter. I swear those boosters somehow caused it! I don't know why it just happened A LOT.

that, or you fall down and crack your head or something

Posted by: Black Orchid at February 21, 2022 05:59 PM (j9HX3)

295 And you forgot shielded by friendly juries in DC. If they were ever tried.
Posted by: Golfman at February 21, 2022 05:39 PM (hOMhY)

Cannot be shielded if they agencies operations are not in DC, not under the rule of diversity - those jurists would have to be from Kansas or Iowa or South Dakota, etc. What a beautiful, fulfilling and warming sight that would be to behold...

Posted by: Boswell at February 21, 2022 05:59 PM (5iUNf)

296
Well, it hasn't bitten us, yet, and any repercussions are likely still a ways off. But if you're in Ukraine it sucks. Probably especially if you're one of the majority of voters that threw Poreshenko out in 2019.
Posted by: junior at February 21, 2022 05:58 PM (iDg0C)

they made their bed in 2014

Posted by: runner at February 21, 2022 06:00 PM (V13WU)

297
Posted by: jakee308 at February 21, 2022 05:58 PM (+Nm6D)
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My color of jaded leads me to believe that is all true.

Posted by: Seems Legit at February 21, 2022 06:00 PM (DcKNO)

298 Oaths mean nothing to them, or congress.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Or to the military, since November, 2019.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at February 21, 2022 06:00 PM (OssQ4)

299 Found this about the vote in Canada. Looks to start in about 5 minutes

https://youtu.be/2VpAwZWfDHU

Posted by: micky at February 21, 2022 06:00 PM (3byMq)

300 A free people can only continue, with spy agencies, if those spies are not allowed to operate on foreign soil.

Any country that spies on it's own people is not free. Doesn't matter why.

Posted by: Stayin' Alive at February 21, 2022 06:01 PM (Mo0CD)

301 If Covid couldn't take Neil Cavuto it is officially a pussy disease.

Posted by: Zek at February 21, 2022 06:01 PM (OzNIz)

302 >>>he got COVID after his booster, didn't he? All my daughter's friends got COVID the week after their (college-imposed) boosters.

that, or you fall down and crack your head or something

Posted by: Black Orchid

Philly's jackass mayor is considering suspending officers who have not gotten the jab. He then suggested he may fire them as well. I saw the list. It has close to 1,600 officers.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 21, 2022 06:02 PM (XSRBF)

303 Posted by: Black Orchid at February 21, 2022 05:59 PM (j9HX3

I once got the flu 2 days after my flu shot. My doctor swore that was coincidence.
Doctors. Phbbt.
I wish I had a real Moron doctor.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 21, 2022 06:02 PM (lCui1)

304 Posted by: Stayin' Alive

I think you meant "only" instead of "not".

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at February 21, 2022 06:02 PM (OssQ4)

305 Another story of Democrats enabling teachers to brutalize kids. Is sex with kids one of their main political ideas?

https://tinyurl.com/5xw6pvxs

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Break The Teachers Unions at February 21, 2022 06:02 PM (sxFm4)

306 301 If Covid couldn't take Neil Cavuto it is officially a pussy disease.
Posted by: Zek at February 21, 2022 06:01 PM (OzNIz)

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hhahahaahahah

If (omicron) it can't kill the weak-minded and fat who can it kill?

Posted by: Seems Legit at February 21, 2022 06:02 PM (DcKNO)

307 by all means, let's risk war when we can't even secure our own border. the left wants to dissolve america because we're spawned by evil people. the usa's just lines on a map too.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at February 21, 2022 06:03 PM (ZZK0E)

308 Probably varies from person to person but

I got Pfizered in April. Last week was tested for antibodies and I'm still good to go. No booster necessary.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 21, 2022 06:03 PM (r/d3+)

309 >>>he got COVID after his booster, didn't he? All my daughter's friends got COVID the week after their (college-imposed) boosters. And many of them had previously HAD the thing. Didn't matter. I swear those boosters somehow caused it! I don't know why it just happened A LOT.

Posted by: Black Orchid at February 21, 2022 05:59 PM (j9HX3)

Every single person I know who got the booster has, in fact, got COVID after. Without fail.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at February 21, 2022 06:03 PM (QYPq3)

310 291 Fox News/Business host Neil Cavuto explains on air that he was out for a while because he was hospitalized with Covid, adds, "doctors say that had I not been vaccinated at all, I wouldn't be here." "I'm not here to debate vaccinations for you. Just offer an explanation for me." Posted by: BetaCuck4Lyfe

Hucksters have been pulling that line for 50,000 years to excuse why their magical cure didn't work. I hope that Cavuto is just lying about doctors buying the "reduces symptoms" nonsense, but I wouldn't bet on it. Posted by: Oldcat
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If Cavuto keeps getting boosters, he is playing Russian Roulette.

Posted by: whig at February 21, 2022 06:03 PM (Iq9dF)

311 And now that we can see that if they wanted to they could've been arranging all our elections for a long time we suddenly come to the understanding that they probably HAD been arranging all our elections for all this time and that the entire basis of this nation has been a lie. A good lie and it's been good for the peasants but now things have changed and more nations are struggling for the same pie and "our" guys want to control that pie and they don't need the interference of the peasants or the idealistic populists to get in the way. So they had to show their cards a bit and they couldn't avoid it being found out as the steal was too obvious because the populist was too obviously popular. And now all of the lies and fakery is coming thru and so they decided now was the time to "cull the herd" so as to be able to control things a bit better. And they don't really mind too much what happens because they'll be okay and their families and associates will be safe and if some of the peasants are lucky, so will some of them. Fight them if you wish, think that we can win somehow if you're inclined but don't believe for a minute that they will come out the winners even if we find them.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 21, 2022 06:03 PM (+Nm6D)

312 "If Cavuto keeps getting boosters, he is playing Russian Roulette."

Cavuto not taking the elevator to the second floor is playing Russian roulette.

Posted by: Zek at February 21, 2022 06:04 PM (OzNIz)

313 This nation, this country this ideal has always and ever been a function of the rich, powerful, and connected from the very beginning it was never some sort of grass roots outraged peons revolting against the evil monarchy. It's always been them against those who were their peers but were in control and the battle has always been about who is in control not some sort of ideal about freedom, liberty, or other such nonsense.
Posted by: jakee308 at February 21, 2022 05:58 PM (+Nm6D)

And it will be again this time. Nevertheless, considering what we're looking at in the present, it may be good to support them anyways. At least the next set won't be mutilating and chemically injecting children.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at February 21, 2022 06:04 PM (z5Vrg)

314 I once got the flu 2 days after my flu shot. My doctor swore that was coincidence.
Doctors. Phbbt.
I wish I had a real Moron doctor.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 21, 2022 06:02 PM (lCui1)
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It takes a week or two for the flu to incubate. iirc

Posted by: Braenyard at February 21, 2022 06:04 PM (r/d3+)

315 I just had a vaxxed friend (Moderna) that got Covid a 3rd time. Just got another positive test back.

These vaccines didn't do shit.

I'm not sure Trump should continue to brag about him getting this vaccine out.

Posted by: Blago at February 21, 2022 06:05 PM (9Wvcs)

316 " I really like Mike Pompeo but being the one-time head of the CIA makes me wonder. A lot. And by a lot I mean a shit ton. So much that I can't support him and his aspirations of becoming President. Did a great job as SOS but..."

right ... but on the other hand, we might need someone that has been in the belly of the beast but still loves America and Liberty. And West Point maybe was a go influence.

idk, Pompeo sounds good ... and perhaps better prepared than Trump .. who expected to be more business like, not ready for full on subterfuge and treason against him. But maybe it is all an act, and CIA flipped him into being a devil? ...

He lost a bunch of weight, is doing a lot of speaking ... might be a good option, or maybe Trump picks him as VP? idk

Posted by: illiniwek at February 21, 2022 06:05 PM (Cus5s)

317 Nood

Posted by: Squid at February 21, 2022 06:05 PM (Y7nTQ)

318 I think you meant "only" instead of "not".

Turns out - I'm not exactly Nathan Hale. "Yeah, what that guy said".

Spies. Fuck 'em. How about that ?

Posted by: Stayin' Alive at February 21, 2022 06:05 PM (Mo0CD)

319 308 Probably varies from person to person but

I got Pfizered in April. Last week was tested for antibodies and I'm still good to go. No booster necessary.

Posted by: Braenyard
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It does, the T and B cells though deal with long term immunity. Adaptive Biotech is the only one that does that that I know is approved by FDA (fwiw).

Posted by: whig at February 21, 2022 06:06 PM (Iq9dF)

320 It has close to 1,600 officers.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 21, 2022 06:02 PM (XSRBF)

Jeebus.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 21, 2022 06:06 PM (lCui1)

321 Heh, Putin is sending "Peacekeeping forces" into Ukraine, kinda like the UN peacekeeping forces except not as corrupt. Well, maybe not as corrupt.
Posted by: WisRich

The children are probably a whole lot safer.

Posted by: rd at February 21, 2022 06:06 PM (Z32m1)

322 And manage to do away with them because there are always going to be enough left to control the operation they built up all this time.

This nation was all about preserving this class of people and not about preserving liberty for the peasants. This plan has been going forward for over 200 years and it's well constructed and well hidden (mostly even if we know it's there just try and find where and who controls it) and in control. No matter what we do. No matter what's happened in other countries. Remember it was them that was behind THOSE countries revolutions or uprisings or whatever so they know exactly how to stop one here.

Posted by: jakee308 at February 21, 2022 06:06 PM (+Nm6D)

323 Cavuto has MS. Who knows if being jabbed repeatedly in a relatively narrow time frame helps or hurts.

(Who is not sharing that info. with me.)

Posted by: Lola at February 21, 2022 06:07 PM (xjz83)

324 >>>Jeebus.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion

Mayor wants anarchy, and he'll get it.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at February 21, 2022 06:07 PM (XSRBF)

325 I woke up with a headache this morning that got bad but now it's almost completely gone!
Rejoicing quietly here.

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 21, 2022 06:07 PM (lCui1)

326 But then the agencies just make the next court where they are found as corrupt. Again, better to exclude DC federal court from having any jurisdiction and instead assign cases randomly based on, heck, a lottery draw. I'd even suggest county and state courts get a chance to host DC federal government lawlessness cases...
Posted by: Nova local at February 21, 2022 05:55 PM (exHjb)

Perhaps, but I'd take my chances with a Minot, ND Federal Judge vs a lefty politically motivated Georgetown flunky from the DC Circuit looking to smooch his way up to the SCOTUS.

Posted by: Boswell at February 21, 2022 06:07 PM (5iUNf)

327 I once got the flu 2 days after my flu shot. My doctor swore that was coincidence.
Doctors. Phbbt.
I wish I had a real Moron doctor.
Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at February 21, 2022 06:02 PM (lCui1)
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It seemed like every year I got a flu shot, I got sick a few days later. I decided to do a test and not get the flu vaccine and see how long until I got the flu. It was like 12 years of perfect health before I got something like the flu.

Posted by: Blago at February 21, 2022 06:07 PM (9Wvcs)

328 @303

>>I once got the flu 2 days after my flu shot.

Per the CDC, the flu shot has a 36pct efficacy for all age groups.

Personally, I believe it has zero efficacy, I've never had the flu shot, and have probably gotten the flu 4 times in the past 20 years.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at February 21, 2022 06:07 PM (BxACj)

329 Laurel Canyon sure did produce some great Boomer music, though. The best music that ever was, or ever will be, to hear Boomers talk about it.
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Who are your guys?

Posted by: dartist at February 21, 2022 06:08 PM (+ya+t)

330 ---------------
It does, the T and B cells though deal with long term immunity. Adaptive Biotech is the only one that does that that I know is approved by FDA (fwiw).
Posted by: whig
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My thinking and I think my doc agrees, that these new variants are a minimum risk maybe less than the common flu.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 21, 2022 06:09 PM (r/d3+)

331 Just like all those people who got polio, twice, after getting their polio vaccine...

Posted by: 18-1 at February 21, 2022 05:58 PM (ESjRY)

They had milder polio. Most were only placed on the aluminum lung.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 21, 2022 06:09 PM (dbs6Z)

332 No worries it's just bob at nsa s cousin chuck.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at February 21, 2022 06:09 PM (0OmEj)

333 FenelonSpoke, willowing your question from a few threads back: No, I don't think Hillary knows thankfulness or joy, judging from her actions and reactions. I pity her, if that's the case.

Posted by: barkingmad59, wandering lurkette at February 21, 2022 06:10 PM (Zg/67)

334
It takes a week or two for the flu to incubate. iirc

Posted by: Braenyard

My kids when they were really young were at the pediatrician and they offered a flu vaccine through a nasal inhalation at a check up. My wife decided to get one also while she was there.

Whole family gets the flu a few days later (except me).

She call the pediatricians office and they said "Oh, the nasal vaccine is a live flu virus and that does happen sometimes"

But nobody ever question the medical community.

Posted by: Blago at February 21, 2022 06:10 PM (9Wvcs)

335 Again, better to exclude DC federal court from having any jurisdiction and instead assign cases randomly based on, heck, a lottery draw. I'd even suggest county and state courts get a chance to host DC federal government lawlessness cases...
Posted by: Nova local at February 21, 2022 05:55 PM (exHjb)

Although - I do agree that a lottery system prevents district court hunting which is what shit bag lawyers do. Diversity rule was supposed to solve that, but it never seems to. Just twirling the wheel of judicial fortune might solve the over litigious fuckwads at the DNC.

Posted by: Boswell at February 21, 2022 06:12 PM (5iUNf)

336 My thinking and I think my doc agrees, that these new variants are a minimum risk maybe less than the common flu.

Posted by: Braenyard
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Whole lot of factors there which you and your doc know better as far as your situation.

Mine, I am coming through a SECOND bout of Covid, and in both cases, it caused subsequent infections of the respiratory system.
Bronchitis in the first, sinus infection and pneumonia this last time.
Both times, I have had severe blood pressure spikes that gradually went away.

Posted by: whig at February 21, 2022 06:16 PM (Iq9dF)

337 "cull the herd"
Posted by: jakee308

Not cull - replace. Like a farmer switching breeds or crops to increase production.

"Yeah, this is good land, and a good set-up, we just need to replace those working class whites with a breed which is easier to control."

Posted by: I am not Montel Williams at February 21, 2022 06:16 PM (Q5Hgr)

338 I woke up with a headache this morning that got bad but now it's almost completely gone!
Rejoicing quietly here.

On Saturday, so did I. No worries. I took an Ibuprofen, it subsided and went away. We've been conditioned to suspect every physical ailment as the Wu. Headaches weren't invented yesterday.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 21, 2022 06:29 PM (Xrfse)

339 Yikes...posting on a dead thread. Oh, well.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at February 21, 2022 06:30 PM (Xrfse)

340 Pompeo ran these corruptocrats and cannot be trusted.

Posted by: Valiant at February 21, 2022 06:54 PM (3MiF8)

341 I was hoping that the rapper guy shot himself in the buns. Tomorrow is another day.

Posted by: klaftern at February 21, 2022 10:42 PM (taPSh)

342 The socialist/Communist have heavily infiltrated our government for a long time. They are in the FBI,CIA, judicial, Courts, other law enforcement, and even in local churches. the infiltration has been steady for a long time. I expect our assassinations were part of it, even Pattons death, who hated Communists, was greatly suspected and covered up. Lookwhat socialism has done to our education of children, public schools, and the little tyrants brag of their successes there. Changing America from energy independent to now heavily dependent of Communist/muslim oil,enriching them, impoverishing -weakening us. As Nazi socialist Geo Soros openly stated, he owns the American democrat party....and they so act like it!.

Posted by: ron n. at February 22, 2022 03:04 AM (EsRGT)

343 During 2020 and 2021, there were a bunch of people in the Trump campaign and administration who were "unmasked" by Democrats querying recordings. Does anyone remember those names? Was one of them Flynn?

There may be terrorists or criminals in the US coordinating with foreign people so the Intelligence community has a mission to monitor communications between foreign and domestic people - this would be NSA, not CIA but no matter - text, email, and phones. It would be unreasonable and silly to record only the foreign side of those conversations. A problem arises when administration political people can unmask people, the definition of terrorist and criminal becomes "those people on the other side of the aisle". A rubber stamp FISA court is the key to secret recordings.

Posted by: richard at February 22, 2022 06:00 PM (xGLnO)

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