The Useful Idiots Are Always...ALWAYS...Expendable

Three Killed, Including Safe Streets Worker, In East Baltimore Quadruple Shooting

The sad thing about the current insanity of "Defund The Police" sweeping America is that there are actually people who believe that it is a good idea, that humanity is inherently good and perfectable, and that a kind word and six hours of de-escalation training is sufficient to create the socialist utopia that we all so desperately want and need.

Well, one of them is dead, thanks to a careful, well-planned program to destroy the rule of law in Baltimore. It was hanging on by a thread, so it didn't need much to collapse entirely!

The city's Safe Streets program aims to reduce gun violence and homicides using "violence interrupters." Members are trained in conflict mediation, counseling and mentorship.
Didn't work so well, did it. It's almost as if there are bad people in the world who are intent upon taking what they want and doing what they want, and the only way to stop them is with force.

Who knew!

"Safe Street workers mediate the very types of conflicts we saw tonight," Baltimore Police Commissioner Michael Harrison said. "All the Safe Streets workers are to be applauded for their work in reducing gun violence and promoting a message of redemption and peace to the many young people of our city."
I'll bet he knows exactly what will ease crime in Charm City, and his blather is simply cover for this latest experiment in failure theater. The real purpose of defunding the police and replacing them with the useful idiots of the soft left is to destabilize society, create an untenable situation in the inner cities so that SOMETHING MUST BE DONE!

Yeah...it's a dead horse but let's beat it anyway...this is pure Antonio Gramsci, perhaps the greatest communist thinker in history. His analysis of "capitalist" society showed the committed socialists of the world how to destabilize it...break down civil society; create class and race distinctions as a result, and presto...

BLM, Antifa, "Defund The Police," Soros puppets in many powerful legal positions across American cities yields the breakdown of the rule of law and a widening schism between suburban/exurban/rural America and the increasingly feral inner cities.

But to what end? You name it, they will try it. Federalizing police to remove the last vestiges of Federalism. National Guard troops in the worst cities to increase the disconnect between them and a civil society and of course increase the tension even more.

Destroy society and then rebuild it any way you want. Unfortunately that includes and a comprehensive police state to ensure that we comply, and gulags for those of us who don't.

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM




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1 Morning!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 23, 2022 12:00 PM (eA1RV)

2 Called 'em.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 23, 2022 12:01 PM (eA1RV)

3 Yes they are, and there is no end of them

Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2022 12:01 PM (2JoB8)

4 Present!

Posted by: Biden's Dog at January 23, 2022 12:03 PM (lfJEy)

5 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at January 23, 2022 12:04 PM (EiUAV)

6 Conflict resolution flows from the barrel of a gun.

Posted by: BignJames at January 23, 2022 12:04 PM (AwYPR)

7 What? Holding hands and singing Kumbaya isn't an effective substitute for a well-trained and motivated police presence?

Yer shittin' me.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 23, 2022 12:04 PM (VxC1e)

8 So much stupid in the world.

Posted by: Infidel at January 23, 2022 12:05 PM (qpolg)

9 Well that sternly worded comment might do the trick from the Baltimore mayor. I think it won't ever happen again.

Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2022 12:06 PM (2JoB8)

10 As of midnight last night, Baltimore had three fatal shootings yesterday.

This took them to a total of 25 for the year-to-date.
Last year on January 22nd?
17.
On the plus side, the Baltimore State's Attorney is still under federal indictment for surgery and false statements.
She was one of the very first Soros backed candidtates for State's Attorney.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice. Asymptomatic raycist at January 23, 2022 12:06 PM (3D/fK)

11 Happy birthday to John Moses Browning, a great civilizer of human society.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 23, 2022 12:06 PM (mPRFJ)

12

"We cannot continue to rely only on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set," Obama said. "We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 23, 2022 12:06 PM (63Dwl)

13 Nope. That shit doesn't fly on this blog. [CBD]

Posted by: Head puddi at January 23, 2022 12:07 PM (xMh1R)

14 Well that sternly worded comment might do the trick from the Baltimore mayor. I think it won't ever happen again.
Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2022 12:06 PM (2JoB

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Mistakes were made but they shall not be repeated.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 23, 2022 12:07 PM (VxC1e)

15 I saw a news headline that US Fed says digitizing the dollar would be "safer" than cryptocurrency. A police-less, cash-less society is the best, you guys!

Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 23, 2022 12:07 PM (/+bwe)

16 If we all are inherently good, we wouldn't need to teach children to be good.

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at January 23, 2022 12:07 PM (RU4sa)

17 Surgery=perjury

But...y'all knew that.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice. Asymptomatic raycist at January 23, 2022 12:08 PM (3D/fK)

18 Deputy Constable shot and killed in traffic stop this morning in Harris County. Shooter used an AR. Exited vehicle and started shooting,

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 12:08 PM (z8oRC)

19 Ancient Rome had no police force and it did just fine.

s/

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 23, 2022 12:08 PM (VxC1e)

20 What we've got here is... stupidity. Some people you just can't reach. So you get what Crackmore had here last night, which is the way they wants it... well, they gets it.

More please.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 23, 2022 12:08 PM (R/m4+)

21 Predictably, NYC's new mayor is calling for stricter gun law in NYC after a cop is killed and another severely wounded responding to a mother-son domestic dispute.

No mention of mom failing to mention on her 911 call that son was a nut with an illegal Glock. It's as if the cops were set-up.

I expect that SCOTUS will knock out NYC's hyper-strict gun law (only celebrities need apply). I live in the South Bronx. Can't wait to get a Glock. Classic 17?

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 23, 2022 12:08 PM (i0slg)

22 Nuke Baltimore from orbit

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 23, 2022 12:08 PM (rTnSv)

23 I saw a news headline that US Fed says digitizing the dollar would be "safer" than cryptocurrency. A police-less, cash-less society is the best, you guys!
Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 23, 2022 12:07 PM (/+bwe)

Star Trek !!

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 12:09 PM (z8oRC)

24 I was in enemy territory last night for a dinner, seated next to a member of the Gov. Murphy administration and across from an assistant U S Attorney. It was all I could do to escape with my life, listening to the unbelievable bullshit opinions.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 23, 2022 12:09 PM (mPRFJ)

25 I don't think Soros has ever given up on 'Democratic Socialism' and he's doing a *job* on the USA to implement it here.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 23, 2022 12:09 PM (d3guq)

26 "Safe Street workers mediate the very types of conflicts we saw tonight," Baltimore Police Commissioner Michael Harrison said. "

Sounds to me like they didn't mediate jack muthafuckin shit.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at January 23, 2022 12:10 PM (VwHCD)

27 Supposedly the "Safe Street Workers" are volunteers from the local neighborhoods. You would think they'd know what they're getting into.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 23, 2022 12:10 PM (BFigT)

28 Ancient Rome had no police force
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 23, 2022 12:08 PM (VxC1e)
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Is that actually true?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 23, 2022 12:10 PM (mPRFJ)

29 Stand back everyone, I'm a conflict resolution specialist!

BLAM BLAM BLAM

So am I.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at January 23, 2022 12:11 PM (eA1RV)

30 "mediate" is a good word for being a meat shield, I guess

Posted by: Black Orchid at January 23, 2022 12:11 PM (j9HX3)

31 You would think they'd know what they're getting into.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 23, 2022 12:10 PM (BFigT)

Assuming this guy wasn't using it as a subterfuge to sell drugs...It is sort of sad that he believed the lies.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 23, 2022 12:11 PM (Q9lwr)

32 Classic 17?
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 23, 2022 12:08 PM (i0slg)

Can't go wrong with that choice. On that note the news is reporting the guy who shot and killed the two cops in NYC used a .45 Glock with an extended mag that held 40 rounds. Never heard of such a magazine. Typical misreporting?

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 12:12 PM (z8oRC)

33 Leftists killing leftists.

Posted by: Redenzo at January 23, 2022 12:12 PM (E7vND)

34 Look at the Dept of Ed and schooling. We have spent billions on pre-K and K programs that show zero difference in the Kid after the 3rd grade.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 23, 2022 12:12 PM (yrol0)

35 Rome had politically appointed aediles like Julis Ceaser IIRC

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 23, 2022 12:12 PM (rTnSv)

36 Some of the Safe Streets workers are 'former' gang members.

I seem to recall some CA city was paying people to not murder. Like a grand a month.

I kinda wonder how that turned out, but then again, my field of fucks is pretty barren for plans like these.

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 23, 2022 12:12 PM (F0YaR)

37 >>> 18 Deputy Constable shot and killed in traffic stop this morning in Harris County. Shooter used an AR. Exited vehicle and started shooting,
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 12:08 PM (z8oRC)

Hmm, seems like we're hearing more stories of goblins using ARs, which serves at least two of the leftists' purposes.

Wonder where he got the cash for it.

>>> 25 I don't think Soros has ever given up on 'Democratic Socialism' and he's doing a *job* on the USA to implement it here.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 23, 2022 12:09 PM (d3guq)

"Conspiracy theory!!!" --MSDNCBSXiNNFBICIANSA

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 23, 2022 12:12 PM (llON8)

38 Play stupid games and win stupid prizes

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 23, 2022 12:12 PM (flINI)

39 Is that actually true?
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 23, 2022 12:10 PM (mPRFJ)

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No prosecutors either. If someone killed your wife, you hired a lawyer to prosecute the killer yourself, or there was no prosecution.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 23, 2022 12:12 PM (VxC1e)

40 This is another too or not enough paranoid comment. I wonder if the intent of defending the police is create a violent nightmare justifying the imposition of an outright police state.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at January 23, 2022 12:13 PM (FVME7)

41 Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 23, 2022 12:09 PM (mPRFJ)

Do tell!

Posted by: Infidel at January 23, 2022 12:13 PM (qpolg)

42 I'd feel bad for them but this is what they wanted. Just keep it out of my town.

Posted by: NR Pax at January 23, 2022 12:13 PM (8ADZq)

43 Can't go wrong with that choice. On that note the news is reporting the guy who shot and killed the two cops in NYC used a .45 Glock with an extended mag that held 40 rounds. Never heard of such a magazine. Typical misreporting?
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 12:12 PM (z8oRC)


ETS 9mm 40-Round Extended Magazine for Glock 18 Pistols

19 bucks

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 23, 2022 12:13 PM (yrol0)

44 Oo! I see a raise for the Safe Street Workers in the near future! Like every other failed commie plan, it just requires moor! money.

Posted by: Fool Otto at January 23, 2022 12:13 PM (DB16e)

45 I believe that there's a lot of people that know some people are bad but they believe that it's THE POLICE and/or the neighborhood and WHITE SUPREMACY and RACISM that are making them bad.
And if we just stop treating them badly (even tho they've done bad things) that they'll stop doing bad things and do good things).
They are what we call Stupid Assholes. I have mixed emotions when one of them (particularly a white princess who's never had a bad thing happen to her in her life) rubs up against one the stone evil bastards and gets either hurt badly or dead.

And in a way you want to go "believe stupid things; win stupid prizes" but that is some family pretty lil girl who are now in a lot of pain (altho because of her beliefs she may have brought this all on her self. At the least her pals in thoughts marches have brought this about.)

Sorry. I'm sexist cause when the man bun cute white guy gets axed I laugh and laugh and laugh. Cause I've lived in stone ass evil peoples neighborhoods and it's easy to stay alive. But first you have to stop believing that everyone is good and that the police are bad. And this man bun cute guy who was gonna sail thru life with no trouble is dead.

Posted by: jakee308 at January 23, 2022 12:14 PM (eYV9L)

46 How hard is it to change magazines?

Posted by: Head puddi at January 23, 2022 12:14 PM (xMh1R)

47 >>> 40 This is another too or not enough paranoid comment. I wonder if the intent of defending the police is create a violent nightmare justifying the imposition of an outright police state.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at January 23, 2022 12:13 PM (FVME7)

*tee hee*

Posted by: Great Resetters at January 23, 2022 12:14 PM (llON8)

48 Well... he did make the streets safe for someone. OBVIOUSLY that bullet was intended to kill someone else.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at January 23, 2022 12:14 PM (flINI)

49 I wonder if the intent of defending the police is create a violent nightmare justifying the imposition of an outright police state.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at January 23, 2022 12:13 PM (FVME7)

Hmm....you may be onto something.

Posted by: BignJames at January 23, 2022 12:15 PM (AwYPR)

50 Boy, there's a job I do not want to have.

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at January 23, 2022 12:15 PM (Vf4Y7)

51 This was self inflicted and more of a suicide IMO.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at January 23, 2022 12:16 PM (bVYXr)

52 This ain't the first founder of anti gun violence organization to be killed by gun fire. Again mostly started by former gang members or members of the hood. I don't think it's too unusual. If you swim with the sharks there is a very good chance you may get killed by a shark.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 12:16 PM (z8oRC)

53 Ancient Rome had no police force
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 23, 2022 12:08 PM (VxC1e)
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Is that actually true?
Posted by: Huck Follywood

It was true during the Roman Republic. The fear was that if somebody controlled the police, he would abuse the power. Street justice was common.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at January 23, 2022 12:16 PM (FVME7)

54 Ancient Rome did just fine. And fell anyway, so I hear.

Not sure how they handled the "no broken windows" thing.

Posted by: klaftern at January 23, 2022 12:16 PM (taPSh)

55 "The real purpose of defunding the police and replacing them with the useful idiots of the soft left is to destabilize society[...]"

The main goal is to Nationalize policing. The "defund" movement, like the "social justice" one, is the rhetorical stalking horse for the perpetuation of the Left's centralizing goals.

The way it works is, FIRST discredit local governing subsidiaries in every sector, policing, education, infrastructure maintenance - the whole caboose, THEN erect uber-structures that pretend to fill the old structures' shoes.

(This is where the Left's frail artifices clash with traditional, foundational parliaments in the Anglo Saxon world. Their abuse of media to massage this impasse is paying ever-diminishing returns.)

To the degree that COVID has discredited our Federal Government bureaucracies, it deliberately plays into the hands of those who want to supplant our elected Republic with the centralized, post-national UN. This is because, in the wake of their own vandalism, they can superimpose their favored strong-man afterwards as the 'only adult in the room.'


Posted by: steveaz at January 23, 2022 12:16 PM (ft6BO)

56 ETS 9mm 40-Round Extended Magazine for Glock 18 Pistols

19 bucks
Posted by: rhennigantx at January 23, 2022 12:13 PM (yro

The caliber allegedly .45

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 12:17 PM (z8oRC)

57 I see someone mentioned Moseby; iianm her hubby is the Baltimore city council preezy, and he is under investigation as well.

The family that loots together...

Posted by: GnuBreed at January 23, 2022 12:18 PM (F0YaR)

58 "Safe street worker" sounds like "sex worker"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 23, 2022 12:18 PM (63Dwl)

59 East Baltimore
East Saint Louis
East Palo Alto

What is it about the East side of something that turns it into a shithole?

Posted by: NR Pax at January 23, 2022 12:18 PM (3T854)

60 Don't forget

East Berlin

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 23, 2022 12:19 PM (rTnSv)

61 I believe they made a glock 40 in 10mm caliber (equal to .45)

So it's probably a scrambled transcriptionist error.

Posted by: jakee308 at January 23, 2022 12:19 PM (eYV9L)

62 You forgot East LA.

Posted by: Head puddi at January 23, 2022 12:19 PM (xMh1R)

63 ' people who believe that it is a good idea, that humanity is inherently good and perfectable'

It's my opinion that these people aren't motivated by too much belief in so much as the gutless unwillingness to admit that some people are persistently criminal.

Posted by: Dr. Claw at January 23, 2022 12:19 PM (roH4R)

64 Posted by: NaughtyPine at January 23, 2022 12:07 PM
Lots of skepticism about crypto. the Fed so hungry to get involved is either a) they want to control the grift , or b) they understand it threatens their power.

Posted by: Fool Otto at January 23, 2022 12:19 PM (DB16e)

65 >>> 52 This ain't the first founder of anti gun violence organization to be killed by gun fire. Again mostly started by former gang members or members of the hood. I don't think it's too unusual. If you swim with the sharks there is a very good chance you may get killed by a shark.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 12:16 PM (z8oRC)

Bruce is turning his life around! It's perfectly safe here!!

Posted by: Larry Vaughn at January 23, 2022 12:19 PM (llON8)

66 Deputy Constable shot and killed in traffic stop this morning in Harris County. Shooter used an AR. Exited vehicle and started shooting,
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 12:08 PM (z8oRC)

Shit. Our suburban Deputy Constables are generally good guys and gals.

Posted by: Count de Monet, Loiter-Sack Muck-Spout at January 23, 2022 12:19 PM (4I/2K)

67 No, not gulags. Happy Fun Camps.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at January 23, 2022 12:19 PM (gbfHZ)

68 East of Eden.

Posted by: Head puddi at January 23, 2022 12:20 PM (xMh1R)

69 What is it about the East side of something that turns it into a shithole?

Posted by: NR Pax at January 23, 2022 12:18 PM (3T854)

Down wind so normally low rend area thus bad people live there/attracted to there.

Whipple live up wind from the stinks and industry so . . .

Posted by: jakee308 at January 23, 2022 12:21 PM (eYV9L)

70 Types disparaging comment about Ballamore.
Deletes.

Posted by: Quarter Twenty at January 23, 2022 12:21 PM (jYQlA)

71 "What is it about the East side of something that turns it into a shithole?"

Sandtown/Winchester communities are on the west side of B'More.

Location of some of the greatest poverty, as well as rioting and looting during the Freddie Gray mostly peaceful looting and rioting.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice. Asymptomatic raycist at January 23, 2022 12:21 PM (3D/fK)

72 U.S.
San Francisco Store Clerk Confused As Shopper Actually Tries To Pay For Merchandise
January 21st, 2022

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From the Bee.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at January 23, 2022 12:21 PM (FVME7)

73 I saw a news headline that US Fed says digitizing the dollar would be "safer" than cryptocurrency. A police-less, cash-less society is the best, you guys!
Posted by: NaughtyPine

The Fed wants the US to follow El Salvador?
https://is.gd/lZIFBv

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 23, 2022 12:21 PM (d3guq)

74
... in 10mm caliber (equal to .45)

casts side-eye

makes popcorn

"And that's when the fight began, Your Honor"

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 23, 2022 12:22 PM (DUIap)

75 I wonder if the intent of defending the police is create a violent nightmare justifying the imposition of an outright police state.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022

It is entirely possible that this very point was made in the content...I mean if there were any content.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 23, 2022 12:22 PM (Q9lwr)

76 Also from the Bee.

U.S.
M&Ms Introduces New Trans Character Who Identifies As A Skittle

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at January 23, 2022 12:22 PM (FVME7)

77 Digital dollar would make it easier for the Fed to make your savings vanish

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 23, 2022 12:22 PM (rTnSv)

78 So in other words, the cops are in on it. Where once upon a time, they were willing to shoot innocent PoCs (or whatever they were doing), they're now letting the criminals get away with whatever they want.

So how does that translate into we should give them more money and power?

Posted by: BurtTC at January 23, 2022 12:23 PM (4GFH7)

79 The Fed wants the US to follow El Salvador?
https://is.gd/lZIFBv
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 23, 2022 12:21 PM (d3guq)

More like Ezekiel. Or was it Daniel?
One of them old prophet dudes.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2022 12:23 PM (axyOa)

80 Head East

Posted by: vancouver bill at January 23, 2022 12:23 PM (Re9MM)

81 Once policing is nationalized, like they intend to do with voting btw, all the local diverse minutiae that attend the daily hurly-burly of American life will be overridden by the Gender/Equity/Inclusiveness narratives produced by the Left's international media machines.

And the Great Leveling will progress apace.

Posted by: steveaz at January 23, 2022 12:23 PM (ft6BO)

82 I think there was a model where police rarely had to use lethal force to maintain order 70 to 80 years ago. It did however rely on using the full force of the law to catch any perp who harmed a LEO and the DA would then push for maximum penalty. Thus it was in thugs' best interests to not shoot in the direction of LEOs.

Now the FNM arm of the communist party airs story after story about "excessive police force", "biased policing" etc. With brief pauses and stories lauding "heroic officer who put his/her life on the line to keep our city safe" when they've managed to get a member of the mob they whip up to actually kill a LEO.

The commies were very damn successful in infiltrating higher education and especially in creating "journalism departments" where they indoctrinate the people that will be hired to narrate new stories to the communist vision.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 23, 2022 12:24 PM (3cGpq)

83 I believe they made a glock 40 in 10mm caliber (equal to .45)

So it's probably a scrambled transcriptionist error.

Posted by: jakee308 at January 23, 2022 12:19 PM (eYV9L)

10mm = .40cal. who knows?

Posted by: BignJames at January 23, 2022 12:24 PM (AwYPR)

84 "I mean if there were any content."

Rumors my good man....

Nothing but rumors of this 'content'.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice. Asymptomatic raycist at January 23, 2022 12:24 PM (3D/fK)

85 What is it about the East side of something that turns it into a shithole?

Posted by: NR Pax at January 23, 2022 12:18 PM (3T854)

Down wind so normally low rend area thus bad people live there/attracted to there.

Whipple live up wind from the stinks and industry so . . .
Posted by: jakee308 at January 23, 2022 12:21 PM (eYV9L)
***
Shitty sunsets.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2022 12:24 PM (axyOa)

86 What is it about the East side of something that turns it into a shithole?
Posted by: NR Pax at January 23, 2022 12:18 PM (3T85

Development probably starts in the East . As the years go by and development moves westward those neighborhoods become fun down. Just a guess.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 12:25 PM (z8oRC)

87 East Baltimore
East Saint Louis
East Palo Alto

What is it about the East side of something that turns it into a shithole?



*cough*

Posted by: Southside of Chicago at January 23, 2022 12:25 PM (ZsR3z)

88 Head East ear worm.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 23, 2022 12:25 PM (mdaT8)

89 Not sure how they handled the "no broken windows" thing.
Posted by: klaftern at January 23, 2022 12:16 PM (taPSh)

No windows unless you are rich. Glass was expensive. And shitty.

Windows had wood shutters or a leather or cloth to keep out the wind and things. Or you just did without. Some houses had NO windows. Maybe a small one up high to let out the smoke cause there weren't chimneys either. (once again; rich people had them poor who lived in huge apartment buildings did not. They cooked on a stone or iron something or other and did it near a window.

Or used communal cooking facilities or just ate at the corner stew pot.

Posted by: jakee308 at January 23, 2022 12:26 PM (eYV9L)

90 Sometime violence is the answer.

Most bad people only understand one thing. Brute crushing force. The remainder of them only understand death.

You want less innocents people to die or be injured? Ensure there are consequences. Always.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2022 12:26 PM (Y45pj)

91 Defund efforts, whether it be for the cops or whomever, is an offshoot of the "cancel culture." Cancel, or do away with something or someone you dislike. It really caught on with the BLM movement, for obvious reasons.

Remember a couple weeks ago a pair of congresswomen were carjacked? One of them, a white woman, recently said she still wants to go down the "police reform/defunding" path as she feels people of color are unjustly harassed by the cops.

She'd be a perfect "Safe Street Worker."

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 23, 2022 12:26 PM (BFigT)

92 Interesting conversation with a retired FBI agent the other evening. Still contemplating what he said concerning the world we live in today and why it's so awful. He says it's a lack of civility. Still thinking on that one.
Everything right now points to the evil ones wanting to tear us down so they can rebuild in the image, you know like a thousand time before in history.
Off to church where many answers can be found. The basic one is that we need to defeat evil. Evil never, ever rests.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at January 23, 2022 12:27 PM (2NHgQ)

93 Ahem.

Posted by: Southeast DC at January 23, 2022 12:27 PM (jYQlA)

94 The Fed wants the US to follow El Salvador?
https://is.gd/lZIFBv
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 23, 2022 12:21 PM (d3guq)

El Salvador wants Bitcoin. the Fed wants to make their own.

Posted by: Fool Otto at January 23, 2022 12:27 PM (DB16e)

95 >>> 75 I wonder if the intent of defending the police is create a violent nightmare justifying the imposition of an outright police state.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022

It is entirely possible that this very point was made in the content...I mean if there were any content.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 23, 2022 12:22 PM (Q9lwr)

What is this "content" of which you speak?

Posted by: AoS Style Guide at January 23, 2022 12:27 PM (llON8)

96 Yesterday, started my MD Carry permit training (have enough of a clearance that it qualifies as a reasonable need). Wife and I saw it as simply "since I can, claim my rights, more for the State to have to take away". Starts to seem like a better and better idea to get the permit and a good carry piece.

Posted by: Mike at January 23, 2022 12:28 PM (/A6g2)

97
Digital dollar would make it easier for the Fed to make your savings vanish
Posted by: Anna Puma


They're doing a pretty good job of that now.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 23, 2022 12:28 PM (63Dwl)

98 Posted by: Southside of Chicago at January 23, 2022 12:25 PM (ZsR3z)

But all of the Sow si ub Chicago is EAST of all the nice suburbs. So . . .

But it does pretty much hold true. Been to a lot of towns and the bad part of town winds up on the East Side usually. Or on the wrong side of the rail road tracks.

Posted by: jakee308 at January 23, 2022 12:28 PM (eYV9L)

99 We've always been at war with Eastasia.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 23, 2022 12:28 PM (KAi1n)

100 58 "Safe street worker" sounds like "sex worker"

wearing a sash reading "sanitized for your protection"

Posted by: Anachronda at January 23, 2022 12:29 PM (Ef1FF)

101 Houston developed East to West.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 12:29 PM (z8oRC)

102 Over under on murders of City Safe Workers when they start carrying?

Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2022 12:30 PM (2JoB8)

103 Oh, fortunate me! The XO has apparently fallen victim to the crud the people at the monument shop have been passing around. It's not the Chinese lung rot; a couple of the employees have tested negative. There is nothing I love more than the XO feeling under the weather. He is the world champion whiner and moaner.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- Bitterly clinging to the deplorable life at January 23, 2022 12:31 PM (N86eO)

104 Also, the lack of self-policing of LEOs, so the narrative of "all cops are bad" has lots of reinforcement.

Posted by: sal at January 23, 2022 12:31 PM (bJKUl)

105 There is a move in places like Berkeley to have unarmed non-cops do traffic stops, since cops are icky and profile and stuff. (It would a require a change in California state law, but look at the legislature.)

Predictably, this program will continue until the first unarmed "traffic advisor" gets blown away making a traffic stop by a criminal who knows that the "traffic advisor" is unarmed. It won't take long.

The Portland cops have abolished the Traffic Division devoted to traffic enforcement, and a cop who wishes to make a traffic stop has to get permission from a supervisor, since cops are icky and profile and stuff. (The cops are also prohibited from chasing people who refuse to pull over.)

Remarkably, people have figured out that there is now no traffic enforcement in Portland, and many people now go 60+ mph on arterial streets, frequently running over pedestrians. But at least the cops aren't profiling anymore.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 23, 2022 12:32 PM (I2/tG)

106 Interesting conversation with a retired FBI agent the other evening. Still contemplating what he said concerning the world we live in today and why it's so awful. He says it's a lack of civility. Still thinking on that one.
***

He's on the right track I think. American exceptionalism is/was based on a central set of commonly accepted behaviors and norms. The vast majority understood right and wrong. And those who did wrong, and were caught, were punished.
We don't have that today. That central ethic is missing. Now it's everyone for themselves, especially in built up areas.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2022 12:33 PM (axyOa)

107 I've been saying what nec said, civility is not taught anymore. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Posted by: Infidel at January 23, 2022 12:34 PM (qpolg)

108 >>> 105 There is a move in places like Berkeley to have unarmed non-cops do traffic stops, since cops are icky and profile and stuff. (It would a require a change in California state law, but look at the legislature.)

Predictably, this program will continue until the first unarmed "traffic advisor" gets blown away making a traffic stop by a criminal who knows that the "traffic advisor" is unarmed. It won't take long.

The Portland cops have abolished the Traffic Division devoted to traffic enforcement, and a cop who wishes to make a traffic stop has to get permission from a supervisor, since cops are icky and profile and stuff. (The cops are also prohibited from chasing people who refuse to pull over.)

Remarkably, people have figured out that there is now no traffic enforcement in Portland, and many people now go 60+ mph on arterial streets, frequently running over pedestrians. But at least the cops aren't profiling anymore.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 23, 2022 12:32 PM (I2/tG)

They need to do this in Seattle. There are too many of you people.

Posted by: Bill Gates at January 23, 2022 12:34 PM (llON8)

109 I try to fall back on the old "never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity" argument, but that seems to be becoming a more and more untenable position. Can people really be this fucking stupid? I just don't know.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- Bitterly clinging to the deplorable life at January 23, 2022 12:35 PM (N86eO)

110 >>> 106 Interesting conversation with a retired FBI agent the other evening. Still contemplating what he said concerning the world we live in today and why it's so awful. He says it's a lack of civility. Still thinking on that one.
***

He's on the right track I think. American exceptionalism is/was based on a central set of commonly accepted behaviors and norms. The vast majority understood right and wrong. And those who did wrong, and were caught, were punished.
We don't have that today. That central ethic is missing. Now it's everyone for themselves, especially in built up areas.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2022 12:33 PM (axyOa)

You say that like it's a bad thing.

Posted by: Stan at January 23, 2022 12:35 PM (llON8)

111 "Safe Street workers mediate the very types of conflicts we saw tonight," Baltimore Police Commissioner Michael Harrison said. "All the Safe Streets workers are to be applauded for their work in reducing gun violence and promoting a message of redemption and peace to the many young people of our city."

In honor of this thread and in other attempts to define what sort of -cracy we are stuck in, I submit this:

I'm coining a brand new word that at present defines the last two years of governance: "ekphobiocracy ", ekphobio comes from the Greek. Phobia, we know as its root in "flight" as in a fear that causes one to run. ek- is a modifier that transforms phobia into "extreme fear". -cracy is the usual governing philosophy. Thus ekphobiocracy is Governance from and by a terrified mob. The "leaders" (outside from the Davos elite) operate out of fear. Fear of being out of step, cowardice, fear of the unknown, fear of being canceled, fear of mortality, fear of being impoverished or made ill. The people, likewise. Ruled by extreme fear.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 23, 2022 12:35 PM (ORB4+)

112 Maybe it's time cops used their billy clubs for their intended use instead of just showing it to assholes who know you won't use it. Cracked coconuts get attention.

Posted by: dartist at January 23, 2022 12:36 PM (+ya+t)

113 Assuming this guy wasn't using it as a subterfuge to sell drugs...It is sort of sad that he believed the lies.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo


the more of their useful idiots that learn about how wrong they are, the better. i feel for the dude's family, but maybe, just maybe they got red pilled about this nonsense.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at January 23, 2022 12:36 PM (IJES/)

114 And yes; defunding the police and letting the criminals out on no or easy bail contributes to more crime and thus chaos on the streets.

Chaos on the streets alarms the citizens who have to take up arms themselves and/or complain to the Gov/Reps/ Mayor about the crime and the left can then respond with martial law.

And having martial law lets in all sorts of stuff and it forces out all sorts of freedoms and thus there's the opportunity for stronger government, harsher punishments, more opportunity to arrest innocent citizens. And brings on Tyranny.

The progression is always to tyranny.

Posted by: jakee308 at January 23, 2022 12:37 PM (eYV9L)

115 >>> 109 I try to fall back on the old "never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity" argument, but that seems to be becoming a more and more untenable position. Can people really be this fucking stupid? I just don't know.
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- Bitterly clinging to the deplorable life at January 23, 2022 12:35 PM (N86eO)

Yes, they really can. Also, this is an "or" vs "and" question in a way. This is why I love Backwards Boy's "Stan's Retards".

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 23, 2022 12:38 PM (llON8)

116 So how does that translate into we should give them more money and power?
Posted by: BurtTC

it doesn't. it will eventually translate into vigilante justice and community star chambers for those in power to be 'corrected' in their behavior.

this is what frightens me about our future as a western civilization

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at January 23, 2022 12:38 PM (IJES/)

117 When I was in public service I administered two federal programs that were named 'Safe .... '

Baltimore was among several jurisdictions I dealt with regularly. The depravity in Baltimore was the worst of them all. Worse than Chicago.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 23, 2022 12:39 PM (EZebt)

118 Let the Blue Shitholes Defund their police. Better yet, lets defund the FIB too. Win win.

Posted by: POTATUS at January 23, 2022 12:40 PM (Tc2CN)

119 That central ethic is missing. Now it's everyone for themselves, especially in built up areas.

Who knew that values were tightly integrated and defining characteristics of culture?

So who could possibly foresee that by diluting one culture with a mixture of dysfunctional cultures riddled with myriads of conflicting civil pathologies - and then celebrating these abnormalities, that the "central ethic" would become AWOL?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 23, 2022 12:40 PM (ORB4+)

120 frequently running over pedestrians

Most of the people being run over in Portland are poor and minority, since poor and minority neighborhoods have more people who now ignore traffic laws, and since the old parts of Portland have gentrified, the poor live in newer neighborhoods with wider streets.

The Left has a solution - crippling the carrying capacity of roads in the poorer neighborhoods to make it harder to drive fast, since it would obviously be racist to allow the cops to enforce the traffic laws again.

Of course, this is going to make it a lot more difficult for the residents of these neighborhoods to get to work, but that isn't a concern among The People Who Matter.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 23, 2022 12:40 PM (I2/tG)

121 So how does that translate into we should give them more money and power?
Posted by: BurtTC

it doesn't. it will eventually translate into vigilante justice and community star chambers for those in power to be 'corrected' in their behavior.

this is what frightens me about our future as a western civilization
Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at January 23, 2022 12:38 PM (IJES/)

A future when HOAs have a tank and electric fences.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 23, 2022 12:41 PM (4GFH7)

122 The solution to this is even more money for Safe Streets so they can do their jobs even better!

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at January 23, 2022 12:42 PM (Bb73g)

123 I've noticed an uptick in drivers, typically POC totally ignoring any traffic laws. They park where they want, drive as fast as they want, stop at red lights when they want, etc.

A guy was in a SUV at the grocery store the other day. Idling in front of the entrance/exit, waiting on his wife or girlfriend. He was there when we went in and was there when we left.

Apparently nobody said a word... cuz racism. Or something.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 23, 2022 12:43 PM (BFigT)

124 Part of the civility that is gone is that we used to know all our neighbors.

These days there are too many people and also no one bothers.

This first happens in cities. So many people who live there but they are strangers cause there is so many people. the more strangers the more one is used to strangers being about. This lends a cover for any criminals. Most criminals will not commit crime too close to home. (some do and they are what's called Stupid Criminals)

They do tend to stay in their ethnic neighborhood cause other wise they stand out elsewhere and people get suspicious.

Civility also comes by having the punishment meted out rapidly. Sometimes right at the scene and by the cop on the beat. This releives the court of the petty thief and shop lifter. Bam Bam goes the hickory stick. If you get caught and punished you may not do it again. (at least not there anyway)

Posted by: jakee308 at January 23, 2022 12:43 PM (eYV9L)

125 Speaking of police, very unfortunate death of a cop during a traffic stop last night in Houston. But, today the officer's department has an image of the badge overlain with the Latin - nemo me impune lacessit - or, no one provokes me with impunity. A law enforcement agency endorsing vendetta - awesome.

Posted by: Indignatio Vindicatorem at January 23, 2022 12:43 PM (oWBc3)

126 We had a safe space program.
Oh what happened?
They got killed.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at January 23, 2022 12:43 PM (ypxwF)

127

"Gulags? Luxury!"

- - Millions shot dead in mass graves.


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 23, 2022 12:45 PM (s2VJv)

128 australia is making tennis fans remove "where's peng" t-shirts......

Posted by: phoenixgirl at January 23, 2022 12:45 PM (CqHIp)

129 Chicago will get better in the next year because our nasty mayor is up for reelection next February. Her tune is changing already on crime and cops.

Posted by: dartist at January 23, 2022 12:45 PM (+ya+t)

130 Was in Italy in 2018. They had an Operation Safe Streets.

It was composed of the carabinieri, their paramilitary police, in full tactical gear, fully automatic weapons, and armored vehicles.

The Italians have a different idea about security

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 12:46 PM (9otr5)

131 126 We had a safe space program.
Oh what happened?
They got killed.
Posted by: Jimco Industries at January 23, 2022 12:43 PM (ypxwF)


"We did?"

- - Grissom, White, Chaffee, Challenger & Discovery LLC

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 23, 2022 12:46 PM (s2VJv)

132 122 The solution to this is even more money for Safe Streets so they can do their jobs even better!

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at January 23, 2022 12:42 PM (Bb73g)


The solution to this is "One strike and you're dead". Capital punishment for all felonies, applied within 30 days of conviction. Do that for ten years and you will greatly reduce the crime problem.

Posted by: a.moron at January 23, 2022 12:47 PM (F6Xpw)

133 Chicago will get better in the next year because our nasty mayor is up for reelection next February. Her tune is changing already on crime and cops.
Posted by: dartist

And she will probably be reelected.

Posted by: Infidel at January 23, 2022 12:48 PM (qpolg)

134 When I think of the Safe Streets Workers, I think of the beginning of the 1947 "War of the Worlds", where 3 religious leaders decide to walk out and proclaim their love of Peace to the Martians. Of course they are zapped instantly.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 23, 2022 12:48 PM (evAgx)

135 "Baltimore, enough is enough. What happened tonight was a horrific tragedy. We cannot and will not allow violence to continue to plague our city", Scott said.

Harrumph harrumph harrumph...

Should put this on a loop so he can just hit the "play" button next time.

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at January 23, 2022 12:48 PM (Bb73g)

136 Civility also comes by having the punishment meted out rapidly. Sometimes right at the scene and by the cop on the beat. This releives the court of the petty thief and shop lifter. Bam Bam goes the hickory stick. If you get caught and punished you may not do it again. (at least not there anyway)

Back in the 1980s, the Dallas Police, during the shift changeover and pep talk would hear things from the duty commander: "We are having a problem in the Northwest district with auto thefts". Which was universally understood that the usual suspects could expect a Tune Up and an Old Hickory Wood Shampoo. Their life of crime would have to be taken to another jurisdiction after a convalescence period at Parkland Hospital.

It worked. Though Farmers Branch and Carrolton weren't thrilled.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 23, 2022 12:48 PM (ORB4+)

137 The Abbie Normal Party.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at January 23, 2022 12:49 PM (7xE4R)

138 The solution to this is "One strike and you're dead". Capital punishment for all felonies, applied within 30 days of conviction. Do that for ten years and you will greatly reduce the crime problem.
Posted by: a.moron at January 23, 2022 12:47 PM (F6Xpw)

Right now it looks like there's De Facto capital punishment for being stupid enough to be a Safe Streets Worker.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 23, 2022 12:49 PM (evAgx)

139 And the new moron in NYC, same as the old moron, is blaming all the cop shootings on gun control. Not the fingers that pull the triggers.

Adams, for those of us that know him from way back, is a left wing ideologue and will never change. he is as bad as biblassio and he looks at everything thru a BLACK lense

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 23, 2022 12:49 PM (Irn0L)

140 Yes, they really can. Also, this is an "or" vs "and" question in a way. This is why I love Backwards Boy's "Stan's Retards".

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at January 23, 2022 12:38 PM (llON
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The wine moms really want to believe that social workers are the magical solution to inner city crime. If only someone approached people with conflict-resolution techniques, they turf wars over drug territories would stop.

My prediction is that in jurisdictions that aren't completely dysfunctional, these people we serve as corroborating witness for the cops, using their stature (and the fact that they almost got shot) to actually defend police conduct.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 23, 2022 12:49 PM (llXky)

141 And she will probably be reelected.
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I won't be surprised. Past mayors have been voted out on how they handled snow storms so who knows. The money is probably pouring in by the truckload.

Posted by: dartist at January 23, 2022 12:50 PM (+ya+t)

142 The solution to this is "One strike and you're dead". Capital punishment for all felonies, applied within 30 days of conviction. Do that for ten years and you will greatly reduce the crime problem.

They had that prior to the formation of the King's Sheriff. All crimes ended up being capital crimes.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 23, 2022 12:51 PM (ORB4+)

143 I have a few "violence interruptors" here.

By the way, why is "gun violence" bad and violence by all other means perfectly OK?

Posted by: Snake Spirit at January 23, 2022 12:51 PM (CdZ4i)

144 69 -- East Omaha, too. If you look at some of those "east" areas, they are the closest to the west bank of a major river, so they were settled first. People began building further and further west of the original settlement areas. The left behind areas are more cheaply built and less maintained. The money moves west, poverty stays in the east.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- bitterly clinging to the deplorable life '70s style! at January 23, 2022 12:51 PM (N86eO)

145 Interesting conversation with a retired FBI agent the other evening. Still contemplating what he said concerning the world we live in today and why it's so awful. He says it's a lack of civility. Still thinking on that one.

Eh maybe. Or maybe it's institutions like the FBI are corrupt and don't care about the law and people are drawing examples from that.

Try running that by him.

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 12:52 PM (9otr5)

146 Posted by: dartist at January 23, 2022 12:45 PM (+ya+t)

I want whatever it is that you're smoking.

Chicago has always been a crime ridden shithole. Except in certain places where the Mayor lived, downtown and the near north side. Then the Daleys got the boot and the city started electing Black Mayors. (like every other one. Like they take turns and shit) and in general it's gotten worse.

But Chicago was a gang town going back to the 30s with the Irish and Italian gangs, then the south side with the Black gangs (I used to know the names but I don't live there no mo so I don care) and now the suburbs is all gangs too. Goes from the Indiana border all the way along the lake coast to Wisconsin. With some places where the cops will beat your ass if you don't live there. Oh and the gangs OWN the NW corner of Indiana. Lake County. I been waiting for Chicago to try and merge with it cause that's where a lot of their criminals live.

Posted by: jakee308 at January 23, 2022 12:52 PM (eYV9L)

147 Remarkably, people have figured out that there is now no traffic enforcement in Portland, and many people now go 60+ mph on arterial streets, frequently running over pedestrians. But at least the cops aren't profiling anymore.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 23, 2022 12:32 PM (I2/tG)

Frankenstein scores! Frankenstein scores at last! But what kind of a score, boys and girls? Just 80 points out a possible big 700. What do you think, Gracie?

Posted by: Junior at January 23, 2022 12:53 PM (R/m4+)

148
- - Grissom, White, Chaffee, Challenger & Discovery LLC
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 23, 2022 12:46 PM (s2VJv)

Discovery? Huh?

Posted by: Columbia STS-107 at January 23, 2022 12:53 PM (CdZ4i)

149 Baseball Cvck of National Google Review is out with a new article saying that It Simply Isn't True that all of the Summer 2020 rioters have been let off scot-free.

It's only 90%! In Portland, the vast majority of people charged with Federal crimes were let off scot-free, and not a single person was held in preventive detention awaiting trial, unlike the people "parading" through the Capitol on 1/6.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 23, 2022 12:54 PM (I2/tG)

150 The solution to this is "One strike and you're dead". Capital punishment for all felonies, applied within 30 days of conviction.

I'd be for that if there were a reciprocal solution with the same punishment applied to the judge, and the prosecution for false/erroneous prosecution and conviction.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at January 23, 2022 12:55 PM (O8FsO)

151 They had that prior to the formation of the King's Sheriff. All crimes ended up being capital crimes.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 23, 2022 12:51 PM (ORB4+)

The problem with "one strike and you're dead" laws is that if you're about to be arrested, then obviously your only play is to shoot the cops and any witnesses. And once a country gets to that mode, then you have to go straight to a strict military dictatorship with fortified machine gun posts on every street corner.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 23, 2022 12:55 PM (evAgx)

152 I do not think I'm alone in the belief that there's a considerable number of us who will not just trundle off into a "gulag" or any such camp.

I further believe that any attempt would be met with extreme resistance, from people who are or have been trained in martial arms. And that the proponents of such actions know this, thus the reluctance to actually enable it.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 23, 2022 12:56 PM (KATBx)

153 Back when SCC was a going concern they commented on the fact that many 'violence interrupters' are themselves gangbangers who ostensibly changed their ways, as well as on the sordid reputation of several of the head honchos. Probably works the same in Baltimore.

Posted by: CppThis at January 23, 2022 12:56 PM (UewuT)

154 If we can't even discuss or describe the problem, it will never get repaired.

It is true, that the Cops in general aren't really setup to be mental health professionals. That isn't their job, and it is completely unworkable to expect them to be. By necessity some of them probably get good at it, but that's probably not the way to bet?

But giving shrinks guns - now you're talking Crazy Town. And if you think it's bad now, you Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet. Because that's what "liberalism" is - Replacing What Works, With What Sounds Good. Thomas Sowell done told ya already. And he ain't wrong.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 23, 2022 12:56 PM (8DvH0)

155 Frankenstein scores! Frankenstein scores at last! But what kind of a score, boys and girls? Just 80 points out a possible big 700. What do you think, Gracie?
Posted by: Junior at January 23, 2022 12:53 PM (R/m4+)

ROFL! Gawd, I love that version of Death Race!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 23, 2022 12:57 PM (evAgx)

156 Like everything else, when the people who are pushing for this crap are inconvenienced themselves, or are the receiving end of the crime they may change their tune. As I said upthread, the congresswoman who got carjacked a couple weeks ago still thinks police reform/defunding is the answer. It makes you wonder if people like that will ever change their minds about how to deal with crime and violence. Or does it take something more "personal" for them to see the light?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 23, 2022 12:58 PM (BFigT)

157 105 There is a move in places like Berkeley to have unarmed non-cops do traffic stops, since cops are icky and profile and stuff. (It would a require a change in California state law, but look at the legislature.)

Predictably, this program will continue until the first unarmed "traffic advisor" gets blown away making a traffic stop by a criminal who knows that the "traffic advisor" is unarmed. It won't take long.

The Portland cops have abolished the Traffic Division devoted to traffic enforcement, and a cop who wishes to make a traffic stop has to get permission from a supervisor, since cops are icky and profile and stuff. (The cops are also prohibited from chasing people who refuse to pull over.)

Remarkably, people have figured out that there is now no traffic enforcement in Portland, and many people now go 60+ mph on arterial streets, frequently running over pedestrians. But at least the cops aren't profiling anymore.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 23, 2022 12:32 PM (I2/tG)

You mean they don't need the revenue?

Posted by: Cow Demon at January 23, 2022 12:58 PM (CdZ4i)

158 150 The solution to this is "One strike and you're dead". Capital punishment for all felonies, applied within 30 days of conviction.

That's pretty close to tyranny.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 23, 2022 12:58 PM (Wj/z9)

159 Interesting conversation with a retired FBI agent the other evening. Still contemplating what he said concerning the world we live in today and why it's so awful. He says it's a lack of civility. Still thinking on that one.
***

He's on the right track I think. American exceptionalism is/was based on a central set of commonly accepted behaviors and norms. The vast majority understood right and wrong. And those who did wrong, and were caught, were punished.
We don't have that today. That central ethic is missing. Now it's everyone for themselves, especially in built up areas.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2022 12:33 PM


Which is directly tied to the intentional destruction of the nuclear family where values and morals are taught starting at a young age.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at January 23, 2022 12:59 PM (bVYXr)

160 I further believe that any attempt would be met with extreme resistance, from people who are or have been trained in martial arms. And that the proponents of such actions know this, thus the reluctance to actually enable it.
Posted by: irongrampa at January 23, 2022 12:56 PM (KATBx)

What's happened already is that the vast majority of us who feel this way have already given up on the blue shithole cities and written them off as none of our concern. We live elsewhere. I really rather hope Portland manages to burn itself to the ground, they deserve it. Saves me and the people I support from the trouble of doing it ourselves.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 23, 2022 01:00 PM (evAgx)

161 157 105 There is a move in places like Berkeley to have unarmed non-cops do traffic stops, since cops are icky and profile and stuff. (It would a require a change in California state law, but look at the legislature.)
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What does the non-cop do when they just drive away?

Posted by: Braenyard at January 23, 2022 01:00 PM (Wj/z9)

162 There is a sweet spot in applying punishments. Unfortunately our prosecutors are a lazy bunch or afraid of losing and would rather offer an insufficient plea deal so they don't have to try the case.

The stat is stale but I would guess if anything it has increased. 15 years ago there were 800+ people in prison for homicide that were previously in prison for homicide.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 01:01 PM (z8oRC)

163 Eh, i think Soro's gambit has about run its course. We are about ready to start throwing people in jail for all sorts of things. The alternative will be street justice, which is probably also coming to a street near you. There will be no federalization. They don't have the manpower to even suggest doing such a thing. There are already many places in the US where its dangerous to be a fed. I think that map is increasing in size.

Posted by: Black JEM at January 23, 2022 01:02 PM (V6xwG)

164 Let's just start dropping FAEs on the urban centers.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at January 23, 2022 01:02 PM (II3Gr)

165 That's smart to have unarmed "policemen" doing the second most dangerous job a cop has.

Posted by: Black JEM at January 23, 2022 01:03 PM (V6xwG)

166 158 150 The solution to this is "One strike and you're dead". Capital punishment for all felonies, applied within 30 days of conviction.

That's pretty close to tyranny.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 23, 2022 12:58 PM (Wj/z9)

It's Judge Dredd level law enforcement, and it's eventually admitted that Judge Dredd is just an enforcer for a fascist dictatorship.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 23, 2022 01:03 PM (evAgx)

167
The people behind the degradation and collapse of our society:

-intend to degrade society

-know that it's killing people

-don't care that it's killing people

They know and they don't care. It's just a game to them. They're winning the game. Life is good. For them. They're like an aristocrat barreling through Paris in a gold-plated carriage, flicking a coin out the window when they run over a child.

For them, life is way too good.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 23, 2022 01:04 PM (2iDSr)

168 What does the non-cop do when they just drive away?
Posted by: Braenyard at January 23, 2022 01:00 PM (Wj/z9)

Hey! HEEEYYYY - - YOU! You made an illegal U-Turn! You're breakin' the law, and so I, as a responsible person, need to arrest you! Citizen's arrest! Citizen's arrest!

Posted by: Berkeley Unarmed Non-Cop at January 23, 2022 01:04 PM (R/m4+)

169 165 That's smart to have unarmed "policemen" doing the second most dangerous job a cop has.
Posted by: Black JEM at January 23, 2022 01:03 PM (V6xwG)

Eating donuts is the first. Obesity kills, man.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at January 23, 2022 01:04 PM (II3Gr)

170 You mean they don't need the revenue?

Not enough cops in Portland to do traffic enforcement.

I discovered that my suburban town outside of Portland collects an average of $20 a year in traffic fines per resident, which seems uncomfortably high. The police chief did note that three-quarters of the fines came from non-residents.

It's possible that the residents are aware that the traffic laws are actively enforced here, unlike non-residents. We don't have people getting run over, either.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 23, 2022 01:04 PM (I2/tG)

171 There are already many places in the US where its dangerous to be a fed. I think that map is increasing in size.

Posted by: Black JEM at January 23, 2022 01:02 PM


Where my family lives in deep Appalachia Kentucky/Tennessee feds don't go there alone or after dark.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at January 23, 2022 01:04 PM (bVYXr)

172 Entropy is a stone-cold bitch.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 23, 2022 01:05 PM (Fs5vw)

173 The bad thing about letting the cities continue to destroy themselves is that even the criminals get wise to what's happening and move also. To where the money is; in the suburbs.

So eventually it reaches the quiet neighborhoods and because there is low crime there are fewer cops and so criminals go wild as there's no cops around patrolling.

On the other hand more people are carrying firearms so they might just act as a pro tempore Sheriff and plug their azzes.

Posted by: jakee308 at January 23, 2022 01:05 PM (eYV9L)

174 Where my family lives in deep Appalachia Kentucky/Tennessee feds don't go there alone or after dark.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at January 23, 2022 01:04 PM (bVYXr)

They check in to the holler but they don't check out.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at January 23, 2022 01:05 PM (II3Gr)

175 But Chicago was a gang town going back to the 30s with the Irish and Italian gangs, then the south side with the Black gangs
--------
Nobody fucked around in the Irish, Italian and Chinese neighborhoods before all the liberal bullshit. They policed their own. South and west sides were always bad, black and latino. Guarantee you if old man Daley was in none of this smash and grab bullshit would be going on. And the crime downtown would be gone along with roving gangs of assholes attacking people. Look at films from Grant Park in 68 for the proper use of a night stick.

Posted by: dartist at January 23, 2022 01:05 PM (+ya+t)

176 125 Speaking of police, very unfortunate death of a cop during a traffic stop last night in Houston. But, today the officer's department has an image of the badge overlain with the Latin - nemo me impune lacessit - or, no one provokes me with impunity. A law enforcement agency endorsing vendetta - awesome.
Posted by: Indignatio Vindicatorem at January 23, 2022 12:43 PM (oWBc3)

You need to leave self-defense and silliness like that to professionals like me.

Posted by: Hero In Blue at January 23, 2022 01:06 PM (CdZ4i)

177 When I think of the Safe Streets Workers, I think of the beginning of the 1947 "War of the Worlds", where 3 religious leaders decide to walk out and proclaim their love of Peace to the Martians. Of course they are zapped instantly.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 23, 2022 12:48 PM (evAgx)

1953.

Posted by: thatcrazyerseyguy at January 23, 2022 01:06 PM (Zvtjl)

178 Ordered liberty.

You're talking about ordered liberty!

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 01:07 PM (9otr5)

179 What does the non-cop do when they just drive away?

They have the plates, send the registered address a fine.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 23, 2022 01:07 PM (ORB4+)

180 ""One strike and you're dead". Capital punishment for all felonies, applied within 30 days of conviction."

The "insurrectionists" of 1/6 are getting almost that treatment now. "Felonies" can be conjured up by a "properly" motivated FBI and AG.

Posted by: illiniwek at January 23, 2022 01:08 PM (Cus5s)

181 178 Ordered liberty.

You're talking about ordered liberty!

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 01:07 PM (9otr5)

If you have Prime it'll get delivered in 2 days.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at January 23, 2022 01:08 PM (II3Gr)

182 One thing that Gramsci and his followers don't think of is that sure, you can destabilize society - but you might not like the results. It may not be of benefit to the commies.

Posted by: Cow Demon at January 23, 2022 01:08 PM (CdZ4i)

183 reducing gun violence

This is how you tell its all.BS. Notice how the governments and bureaucracies of these leftist shitholes.focusmon this? Its their mantra. Bearings, stabbings, rapes, theft...no biggie. But by Gawd...gunz!!!
Idiots.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2022 01:10 PM (axyOa)

184 wut about non useful idiots ??

war do the fuck do we go ??

Posted by: REDACTED at January 23, 2022 01:10 PM (us2H3)

185 They have the plates, send the registered address a fine.

LOL.

Another hot trend in Portland is driving without plates. Since there is no traffic enforcement, why bother?

The last couple of times Antifa tried to gather in a residential neighborhood in Portland, cops pulled them over and ticketed them for driving without plates. They were very upset at how unfair that was.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 23, 2022 01:10 PM (I2/tG)

186 They keep voting for it. So I give zero fucks. You want it, you got it.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 23, 2022 01:11 PM (HDEhp)

187 Every person in my division said this would be a disaster - Philly wants to try it as well - and it didn't take long. Damned shame about those who were killed, but their politicians put them in this position.

I guarantee nothing changes, and Bulletmore Murderland will continue apace.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 23, 2022 01:11 PM (bkUtD)

188 "Baltimore, enough is enough. What happened tonight was a horrific tragedy. We cannot and will not allow violence to continue to plague our city", Scott said.

Harrumph harrumph harrumph...

Should put this on a loop so he can just hit the "play" button next time.
Posted by: Shooter McGavin at January 23, 2022 12:48 PM (Bb73g)

Why, it's almost as if sticking hundreds of thousands/millions of people together in a city, without any sense of community or shared culture, will create this so-called lack of civility people are lamenting, and contribute to a more brutal and violent environment.

Almost.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 23, 2022 01:11 PM (4GFH7)

189 Seattle PD has announced they too will no longer enforce traffic laws.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 23, 2022 01:12 PM (HDEhp)

190 I sense a bit of confliction here among the horde about law enforcement - one that is probably well reflected in popular culture.

In culture, rogue policemen/ intelligence officers are heroes. Not bound by stupid laws! Jack Bauer saved us all because he was willing to break the rules. Like Dirty Harry. But ironic that Dirty Harry was in conflict with roque cops who were themselves not bound by the rules!

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 01:12 PM (9otr5)

191 Cow Demon at January 23, 2022 01:08 PM (CdZ4i).

Yes. Look at Iran. The commies and jihadis cooperated to overthrow the Shaw, both thought they'd be in charge afterwards. Commies lost that gamble.

Closer to home I think only a tiny handful of Cuban communists were better off after Fidel and Che were in charge.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 23, 2022 01:13 PM (3cGpq)

192 >>>Houston. But, today the officer's department has an image of the badge overlain with the Latin - nemo me impune lacessit - or, no one provokes me with impunity. A law enforcement agency endorsing vendetta - awesome.

Posted by: Indignatio Vindicatorem
-----------------

What that translates to is, be polite as I write your ticket and let the judge decide the law.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 23, 2022 01:13 PM (Wj/z9)

193 Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 01:07 PM (9otr5)

If you have Prime it'll get delivered in 2 days.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at January 23, 2022 01:08 PM (II3Gr)

Yeah, about that two day thing.....

Posted by: Chinazon's Ships Off the Coast at January 23, 2022 01:13 PM (4GFH7)

194 Another hot trend in Portland is driving without plates. Since there is no traffic enforcement, why bother?

The last couple of times Antifa tried to gather in a residential neighborhood in Portland, cops pulled them over and ticketed them for driving without plates. They were very upset at how unfair that was.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 23, 2022 01:10 PM (I2/tG)

In Houston we have a fake paper plate black market going on for the last 3 years. Finally HPD made a statement they have put together a task force to address the problem.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 01:14 PM (z8oRC)

195 Yeah, about that two day thing.....
Posted by: Chinazon's Ships Off the Coast at January 23, 2022 01:13 PM (4GFH7)


I think they are updating Prime terms of service to "Two Day Shipping. Ish."

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 01:14 PM (9otr5)

196 Personally, I have no moral objection to the major shitties pushing themselves far enough into anarchy that the remaining citizens hire mercs to take out the trash. But I'm an asshole so of course I'd say something like that.

Posted by: CppThis at January 23, 2022 01:15 PM (UewuT)

197 In Houston we have a fake paper plate black market going on for the last 3 years. Finally HPD made a statement they have put together a task force to address the problem.

The amusing thing in Portland is that all the suburbs still enforce the traffic laws, so you need to remember to put your license plates back on if you go to the burbs.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 23, 2022 01:15 PM (I2/tG)

198 The fish rots from the head.
The cops express the perspective of the city leaders.
If the leaders are corrupt the cops are corrupt if the leaders are honorable the cops are honorable.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 23, 2022 01:16 PM (Wj/z9)

199 NYC is already nearing peak stupid. When the mayor says, "we have no gun factories in NYC", he is saying he is not responsible for gun crimes there.

Posted by: Indignatio Vindicatorem at January 23, 2022 01:16 PM (oWBc3)

200 189 Seattle PD has announced they too will no longer enforce traffic laws.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss

Link?

Posted by: I Mean at January 23, 2022 01:16 PM (P2BBd)

201 In Houston we have a fake paper plate black market going on for the last 3 years. Finally HPD made a statement they have put together a task force to address the problem.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 01:14 PM (z8oRC)


I think its a Texas thing. They made an electronic/print your own tag system and people just photoshop them.

I have seen them advertised in MD! Get a Texas temp tag.

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 01:16 PM (9otr5)

202 In Houston we have a fake paper plate black market going on for the last 3 years. Finally HPD made a statement they have put together a task force to address the problem.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 01:14 PM (z8oRC)


BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Strongly worded paper plates.to follow.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2022 01:16 PM (axyOa)

203 I am reminded that I need to renew my call for 'Defund the Fire Department'. Would obviously mean fewer fires.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at January 23, 2022 01:17 PM (DMQdU)

204 Posted by: The ARC of History! at January 23, 2022 01:10 PM (I2/tG)

In Houston we have a fake paper plate black market going on for the last 3 years. Finally HPD made a statement they have put together a task force to address the problem.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 01:14 PM (z8oRC)

The problem in Colorado, they give you two months to get your plates, after you buy a new vehicle. However, the state is at least three months behind in processing new vehicle title paperwork.

So... ours is now about two weeks past the expiration date. We finally got our paperwork, and have sent it in. There's a little blurb on it that says "local cops can still ticket you for not having plates, even if it wasn't your fault." Or something like that.

I don't see the point of blaming the populace for not wanting to obey the state that can't create a system that does NOT allow one to obey them properly.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 23, 2022 01:18 PM (4GFH7)

205 What that translates to is, be polite as I write your ticket and let the judge decide the law.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 23, 2022 01:13 PM (Wj/z9)

Funny how it is demanded we have to be polite to professional assholes.

Posted by: Cow Demon at January 23, 2022 01:18 PM (CdZ4i)

206 Ugh. I broke down after having no luck finding another source for decent priced arnica gel and ordered a few things on Amazon early in Dec and accidentally signed up for the free prime membership. So the idiots split the order up to "speed shipping" and the only thing I actually got was a bottle of vitamins. So aside from being an evil monopoly I am now done with Amazon for failing to deliver what I ordered.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 23, 2022 01:18 PM (3cGpq)

207 199 NYC is already nearing peak stupid. When the mayor says, "we have no gun factories in NYC", he is saying he is not responsible for gun crimes there.
Posted by: Indignatio Vindicatorem at January 23, 2022 01:16 PM (oWBc3)


What he is saying is that they ran them out, and that didn't work. Remington, Kahr, and ATI all left New York state last year.

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 01:19 PM (9otr5)

208 NYC is already nearing peak stupid. When the mayor says, "we have no gun factories in NYC", he is saying he is not responsible for gun crimes there.
Posted by: Indignatio Vindicatorem at January 23, 2022 01:16 PM (oWBc3)

As I said he is a left wing ideologue. Only sees thru a black lense. Is stupid. Will follow on deblasio and ruin NYC

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 23, 2022 01:19 PM (Irn0L)

209 I sense a bit of confliction here among the horde about law enforcement - one that is probably well reflected in popular culture.

In culture, rogue policemen/ intelligence officers are heroes. Not bound by stupid laws! Jack Bauer saved us all because he was willing to break the rules. Like Dirty Harry. But ironic that Dirty Harry was in conflict with roque cops who were themselves not bound by the rules!

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 01:12 PM (9otr5

I think the problem is the loss of historic perspective and today's instant communication and information.

I have always contended that law enforcement malfeasance was way worse in the past and that the current PD is more regulated and investigated than ever before. Maintaining an honest and competent police force is on ongoing task and always had been. It's the nature of the beast.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 01:20 PM (z8oRC)

210 I think the idea is to get people used to this level of incivility and violence by using nonsense programs like this "Safe Street Worker" program instead of actual law enforcement. The killings, rapes, robbery... it's just the way things are now so don't get your panties all wadded up. The professional "conflict resolution" experts are here. By design, it will fail.

They're cannon fodder for a move to grab guns. I'm sorta' surprised they're not using Antifa and BLM types.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 23, 2022 01:20 PM (BFigT)

211 Pale rider you can usually get arnica gel at a health food store or at a grocery that caters to the arugula crowd

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at January 23, 2022 01:20 PM (lCui1)

212 In Houston we have a fake paper plate black market going on for the last 3 years. Finally HPD made a statement they have put together a task force to address the problem.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 01:14 PM (z8oRC)

This is TX wide. Probably far worse in Houston due to additional Harris County fees and higher state inspection fees due to the emission inspections.

Posted by: Cow Demon at January 23, 2022 01:20 PM (CdZ4i)

213 Safe streets workers lives matter! He should've had a weapon, a tool, a gat, an assault Rifle.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at January 23, 2022 01:20 PM (0OmEj)

214 The number of paper plated cars in Houston toll roads would likely fund the city for a month - if those tolls were ever collected. I believe they found one "dealer" who had issued thousands of these plates and never sold a vehicle.

Posted by: Indignatio Vindicatorem at January 23, 2022 01:20 PM (oWBc3)

215 Yeah, about that two day thing.....
Posted by: Chinazon's Ships Off the Coast at January 23, 2022 01:13 PM (4GFH7)

I think they are updating Prime terms of service to "Two Day Shipping. Ish."
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 01:14 PM (9otr5)

I'm gonna guess they don't care, but I'm like a lot of other people, I'm sure, in that I cancelled their shitty service, since it isn't capable of doing the one thing I got it for.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 23, 2022 01:21 PM (4GFH7)

216 PaleRider have you looked next to the train tracks for your missing items yet?

Posted by: Skip's Phone at January 23, 2022 01:21 PM (u/zuA)

217 >>>Seattle PD has announced they too will no longer enforce traffic laws.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant

Philly is doing the same thing. It begins at the end of the month. Blows a red light? No problem. Hit and run? No problem. Kill someone, probably no problem.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 23, 2022 01:22 PM (bkUtD)

218 Hi Vmom. Yes I can get Arnical gel at Walgreens or Walmart etc in the 2.x oz tubes for barely less than I was paying for an 8 oz bottle of higher concentration.

But alas the company that produces those 8 oz bottles only sells via Amazon. But when I don't get what I ordered I'd be better off just paying the inflated prices at the drugstore.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 23, 2022 01:24 PM (3cGpq)

219 I have always contended that law enforcement malfeasance was way worse in the past and that the current PD is more regulated and investigated than ever before. Maintaining an honest and competent police force is on ongoing task and always had been. It's the nature of the beast.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 01:20 PM (z8oRC)

Which is why we need to not worship the cops but acknowledge while they have an important job, you are still giving a great deal of power to deeply flawed people. They don't turn angelic once the badge is assigned and the blue clothes are put on. And police unions need to go. And cops need to be buttressed with a heavily armed law-abiding populace, because even if all cops were angels, they still work for Police Chief Sir Isaac Newton. Or Einstein perhaps?

Posted by: Cow Demon at January 23, 2022 01:24 PM (CdZ4i)

220 well, at least I had 20 years , 1990 to 2010, of going to NYC once or twice a week, buying antiques and going to auctions

I never felt unsafe and enjoyed being in the city for short periods of time

I've only ben back a few times, just to drop off something to Christies or Sotheby's to sell for me

dropped of the item and went directly home

it's a real pity

Posted by: REDACTED at January 23, 2022 01:25 PM (us2H3)

221 Maintaining an honest and competent police force is on ongoing task and always had been. It's the nature of the beast.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 01:20 PM (z8oRC)


Maybe. I hear that about a lot of things, that they were worse in the past, we just didn't know about it. Well, if we didn't know about it then, how would we know now?

I am conflicted. I would like to Back the Blue. But they are the armed wing of the state, or whatever local tyrants we have. I have a tough time resolving it.

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 01:25 PM (9otr5)

222 Another hot trend in Portland is driving without plates. Since there is no traffic enforcement, why bother?

That is one way to defeat ALPR tracking. Tracking plates once was the number one way to deal with drug trafficking.

I guess that has been replaced with tracking phones, but that is easily defeated too.

So that leaves LEO having only two real jobs: being the violent force behind city policy, and physical protection of the ruling class.

So why do we pay for this?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 23, 2022 01:25 PM (ORB4+)

223 One strike and you're dead". Capital punishment for all felonies, applied within 30 days of conviction.

The reality is any law carries a potential death sentence (cf that guy killed in NYC for selling "loosies").

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 23, 2022 01:25 PM (a3Q+t)

224 >>>This is another too or not enough paranoid comment. I wonder if the intent of defending the police is create a violent nightmare justifying the imposition of an outright police state.

Been done before. Remember Repeal 'Don't Ask - Don't Tell"?
Strictly speaking, repeal would have reverted to what it was before, actual investigation and prosecution rather than the new fangled tolerance. But the way it was 'tlrepealed' was to go in the opposite direction and support not just merely gay but more extreme degeneration.

Therefore 'repeal' of 'defund the police' would be treated as a popular call for an overt total police state.

Posted by: Phuk Ho Le at January 23, 2022 01:25 PM (5gmAP)

225 Seattle PD has announced they too will no longer enforce traffic laws.
Posted by: Joe XiDen

Um. That's not really true. But if fits your narrative, so go with it.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 01:25 PM (U2p+3)

226 Anyone know how the mandate protest is going in DC ?

Posted by: It's me donna .. God bless and Keep OM, Tami and Red at January 23, 2022 01:26 PM (TdaKq)

227 They used to give warnings and sometimes tickets around here for making Hollywood stops, rolling through stop signs. Things have changed a little.

Posted by: dartist at January 23, 2022 01:26 PM (+ya+t)

228 I am conflicted. I would like to Back the Blue. But they are the armed wing of the state, or whatever local tyrants we have. I have a tough time resolving it.
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 01:25 PM (9otr5)

Same. What pisses me off the most/is frustrating is that I WANT to like and trust the cops. But...

Posted by: Cow Demon at January 23, 2022 01:27 PM (CdZ4i)

229 Maintaining an honest and competent police force is on ongoing task and always had been. It's the nature of the beast.

I can't imagine that Dallas is alone, but a number of years ago they have been dropping standards for new recruits. Now it is no impediment to having a criminal record prior to applying to join the academy.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 23, 2022 01:27 PM (ORB4+)

230 I'm betting that cracking down on paper plates will be shown to have a 'Disparate Impact', ergo, racist.

Posted by: Ivan at January 23, 2022 01:28 PM (sc/gu)

231 They're cannon fodder for a move to grab guns. I'm sorta' surprised they're not using Antifa and BLM types.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 23, 2022 01:20 PM


We're not that stupid!

Posted by: Antifa & BLM Types at January 23, 2022 01:29 PM (a3Q+t)

232 Interim Chief Adrian Diaz announced Friday that the following violations no longer can be the sole reason officers pull over folks, Rantz noted in a piece for KTTH-AM:

Expired or missing vehicle registration;
Issues with display of registration plates;
Items hanging from rear-view mirror and cracks in windshield (though actual visual obstructions such as snow, fog, non-transparent material, or shattered windshields will be enforced); and
Bicycle helmet violations.

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 01:29 PM (9otr5)

233 I'll bet Wyatt Earp has some great stories about policing since he started.

Posted by: dartist at January 23, 2022 01:29 PM (+ya+t)

234 It isn't true to say that Seattle no longer enforces traffic violations. It IS true to say that they have stopped using certain violations as "primary"

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 01:30 PM (9otr5)

235 Get rid of career mercenaries loyal only to their bureaucrat paymasters and force people to take care of their own protection?

Destabilize society? Well, it does destabilize the reliance upon Uncle Sugar for cradle-to-grave support.

I'd call it a realignment.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 23, 2022 01:30 PM (MofO9)

236 You say you want a revolution in Seattle? Ban coffee shops.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 23, 2022 01:31 PM (a3Q+t)

237 Oakland PD announces that they're shifting 48 more cops to East Oakland: "Community members are advising that they just do not see enough police officers out on the streets," Johnson said. "With the addition of 48 officers, the Oakland Police Department and myself plan to work with community members to bring equity to East Oakland."

That says everything you need to know about the woke. "bring equity". I guess it really doesn't matter, they can make as many arrests as they want, the DA will have the thugs back on the street before the cops finish the paperwork.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at January 23, 2022 01:31 PM (wAnMi)

238 Defund the police. Then something will fill the void. Criminal at first... Then private justice. The criminal class won't like private justice. The police are there to protect the criminals from society. Lessons are hard to learn...

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at January 23, 2022 01:31 PM (0OmEj)

239 I'm sure you Morons knew this before me, as usual, but our dickhead SecState is now making bellicose threats to Russia should they invade Ukraine, directly after Brandon gave them the green light to invade Ukraine. This situation is so chaotic, and deteriorating so quickly, that I'm now just bracing myself for when we start and lose a war with Russia. So messed up. So pointless. I just hope it's lost quickly and decisively so we can get the humiliation over with, but I know it won't be.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 23, 2022 01:34 PM (Cf/uA)

240 Philly is doing the same thing. It begins at the end of the month. Blows a red light? No problem. Hit and run? No problem. Kill someone, probably no problem.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 23, 2022 01:22 PM (bkUtD)


**begins making list of people to invite to Philly**

Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2022 01:34 PM (axyOa)

241 Lessons are hard to learn...
Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at January 23, 2022 01:31 PM (0OmEj)


There will be an inevitable dissolution of things. There are going to be rural counties where the society just isn't going to play that way. And then the cities will break up into a Latin American scenario of the rich in walled enclaves with private security, and the poor living in squalor and violence, and there not being much of a middle class at all.

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 01:35 PM (9otr5)

242
As I said he is a left wing ideologue. Only sees thru a black lense. Is stupid. Will follow on deblasio and ruin NYC
Posted by: Nevergiveup


You mean all the people on TV who said he would be a breath of fresh air were a bunch of fools?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 23, 2022 01:35 PM (63Dwl)

243 >>>**begins making list of people to invite to Philly**
Posted by: Diogenes


HA!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 23, 2022 01:35 PM (bkUtD)

244 Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at January 23, 2022 01:31 PM (0OmEj).

But right now, police barely remove criminals from the streets but citizens 'know' that they WILL face the full wrath of the state if they take matters into their own hands. Its the worst of both worlds.

I used scare quotes, but citizens believe it and it is quite likely 100 percent true.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 23, 2022 01:35 PM (3cGpq)

245 Defund the police. Then something will fill the void. Criminal at first... Then private justice. The criminal class won't like private justice. The police are there to protect the criminals from society. Lessons are hard to learn...
---------
Dirty Harry and Charles Bronson return in Almost Dead and Zombie Death Wish 15.

Posted by: dartist at January 23, 2022 01:36 PM (+ya+t)

246 228 I am conflicted. I would like to Back the Blue. But they are the armed wing of the state, or whatever local tyrants we have. I have a tough time resolving it.
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 01:25 PM (9otr5)
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Cops are agents of city management. If you want decent cops one must elect decent management.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 23, 2022 01:36 PM (Wj/z9)

247 This is like watching the indoctrination of our children by communists and their allies and insisting our children can be properly indoctrinated ifvthe right people were in charge.

Policing, as we're discussing it, is a Socialist construct. Give us sheriffs with the power to deputize. Defund the cadres of bureaucrats with guns.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 23, 2022 01:37 PM (MofO9)

248 >>>I'll bet Wyatt Earp has some great stories about policing since he started.
Posted by: dartist


The job is much, much worse than it was in 1994. There was at least a little respect for officers, but now it's full-on war. Had a few friends murdered in the line of duty, and while my position isn't as good as it was, detective is still a pretty good gig.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 23, 2022 01:38 PM (bkUtD)

249 But right now, police barely remove criminals from the streets but citizens 'know' that they WILL face the full wrath of the state if they take matters into their own hands. Its the worst of both worlds.

I used scare quotes, but citizens believe it and it is quite likely 100 percent true.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 23, 2022 01:35 PM (3cGpq)


Part of the dissolution. I mean, look at those people in St Louis who tried to protect their home with guns. But contrast with, say, Polk County Florida Sheriff: "The homeowner did exactly what he should have," Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd told WFLA-TV after a man in Lakeland, Florida shot an intruder in his home.

It's clearly not one country anymore.

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 01:38 PM (9otr5)

250 Defund the police. Then something will fill the void. Criminal at first... Then private justice. The criminal class won't like private justice. The police are there to protect the criminals from society. Lessons are hard to learn...

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at January 23, 2022 01:31 PM (0OmEj)
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5 generations of cultural lies has taught the average #conservative to rely on the government for everything- especially their safety and security.

To the point where they will absolutely demand it while denouncing those seeking an American solution to the problem.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 23, 2022 01:39 PM (MofO9)

251 This situation is so chaotic, and deteriorating so quickly, that I'm now just bracing myself for when we start and lose a war with Russia. So messed up. So pointless. I just hope it's lost quickly and decisively so we can get the humiliation over with, but I know it won't be.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 23, 2022 01:34 PM (Cf/uA)


No.
They will declare it a great victory for democracy and diplomacy. Our troops will have fought gallantly and will be remembered through yet another memorial put up somewhere in side the beltway. And more medals for the generals.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2022 01:39 PM (axyOa)

252 Defund the police. Then something will fill the void. Criminal at first... Then private justice. The criminal class won't like private justice.

Leftists are clever and wicked, they aren't stupid. They are adept at setting up things in such a way to short circuit normal response. We see this over and over. "Private justice" will be persecuted.

The normal feedback mechanisms are broken, the political switches, buttons, and levers that we the people, the citizenry have at our disposal to use were disconnected long ago, they don't do anything. I'm amazed it took so long for some to notice. And the way the leftists and other saboteurs behave, they must think they can act with impunity. No worries.

Posted by: Common Tater at January 23, 2022 01:39 PM (8DvH0)

253 The cops are no different than the rest of society... They're not all bad or good. The bad ones will kill for our regime when the time comes, and the good ones will be killed. This situation will resolve itself. And not in a good way.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 23, 2022 01:39 PM (Cf/uA)

254 Perhaps this country has turned it's back on the concept of right and wrong. Maybe we're relying too much on "our truth" instead of what history and religion has taught.

I don't think we'll enjoy the Great Reset.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 23, 2022 01:40 PM (Fs5vw)

255 OT a bit, but does anyone have a way to watch Capitol Punishment, the film about 1/6 by Nick Searcy?

I went to the website for the movie but was unable to access the button that would have enabled me to pay for and see the film.

Seems like it's totally frozen out by Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, et al.

Almost seems as if...someone doesn't want folks to be allowed to see it.

Posted by: RM at January 23, 2022 01:40 PM (dSUVs)

256 254 Perhaps this country has turned it's back on the concept of right and wrong. Maybe we're relying too much on "our truth" instead of what history and religion has taught.

I don't think we'll enjoy the Great Reset.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 23, 2022 01:40 PM (Fs5vw)


I think I read about this in a book somewhere

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 01:40 PM (9otr5)

257
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 01:35 PM (9otr5)
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I see them working in high rise buildings with underground shuttles taking them to their high rise apartments. In between are the amenities they are accustomed to. Above ground are the *people*.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 23, 2022 01:41 PM (Wj/z9)

258 Eventually the fear the law abiding citizen has of self defense will fade. The justice system can only police so much. It's already overwhelmed. Eventually it won't be able to go after the ones that shoot back.

I have it on good authority that the horde is well armed and will defend themselves. Society isn't far behind. Nobody wants to be a victim.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at January 23, 2022 01:42 PM (0OmEj)

259 I have it on good authority that the horde is well armed and will defend themselves. Society isn't far behind. Nobody wants to be a victim.
Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at January 23, 2022 01:42 PM (0OmEj)


Well, we would have been well armed if it wasn't for that damn canoe!

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 01:42 PM (9otr5)

260 The job is much, much worse than it was in 1994. There was at least a little respect for officers, but now it's full-on war. Had a few friends murdered in the line of duty, and while my position isn't as good as it was, detective is still a pretty good gig.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 23, 2022 01:38 PM (bkUtD)


Awesome!
Does your partner look like Stana Katic?

Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2022 01:42 PM (axyOa)

261 Interim Chief Adrian Diaz announced Friday that the following violations no longer can be the sole reason officers pull over folks, Rantz noted in a piece for KTTH-AM: ...
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 01:29 PM (9otr5)
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I still don't understand how public pronouncements about violating one's oath of office are not prosecutable.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 23, 2022 01:43 PM (EZebt)

262 Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 01:25 PM (9otr5)

We knew about it. Interrogation methods, blue wall of silence , throw down guns, cops on the take, etc were all common knowledge a century ago.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 01:43 PM (z8oRC)

263 There's a method to the madness. The idea to utilize unarmed, ill-trained conflict resolution workers isn't organic. Someone with significant pull (likely Obama) pushed this concept. It sort of fits in with his community organization skillz. When it fails, as it's designed to, a more forceful version will take its place... but it won't be the traditional police. The idea isn't so much about defunding as it is redefining what law enforcement actually is. According to the left.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 23, 2022 01:44 PM (BFigT)

264

Op-Ed: 'Race neutral' bills are designed to protect the advantages of white Americans.

https://tinyurl.com/2dj9pn7v

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 23, 2022 01:44 PM (63Dwl)

265 There will be no physical battle between us and Russia.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 23, 2022 01:44 PM (Wj/z9)

266 Does your partner look like Stana Katic?
Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2022 01:42 PM (axyOa)


Or at least Stephanie Kramer?

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 01:44 PM (9otr5)

267 The job is much, much worse than it was in 1994. There was at least a little respect for officers, but now it's full-on war. Had a few friends murdered in the line of duty, and while my position isn't as good as it was, detective is still a pretty good gig.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 23, 2022 01:38 PM (bkUtD)

I bet internally you are under more of a microscope than you've ever been.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 01:44 PM (z8oRC)

268 Past Houston Police Chief notables include Lee P. Brown, Elizabeth Watson, Clarence Bradford, and Art Acevedo.

Bangup job there, City Council and Mayor.

Posted by: Count de Monet, Loiter-Sack Muck-Spout at January 23, 2022 01:45 PM (4I/2K)

269 Leftists are clever and wicked, they aren't stupid. They are adept at setting up things in such a way to short circuit normal response. We see this over and over. "Private justice" will be persecuted.
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Sure, in Slave States.

Stop looking at the country like a socialist monolith. The federation is doingbits job. Free States are still free-to-nominally free, depending on where you are.

They can short-circuit normality only in the states where they are allowed to hold power.

Never fear. I'm sure we'll vote our way out of this tyranny real soon.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 23, 2022 01:45 PM (MofO9)

270 ...I just hope it's lost quickly and decisively so we can get the humiliation over with, but I know it won't be.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 23, 2022 01:34 PM (Cf/uA)


If these fuckwads try pulling that shit, I don't doubt that China will decide it's a good time to annex Taiwan. This country has never been weaker than at this very moment.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at January 23, 2022 01:45 PM (wAnMi)

271 81 million votes.

Posted by: Infidel at January 23, 2022 01:45 PM (qpolg)

272 >>>Awesome!
Does your partner look like Stana Katic?
Posted by: Diogenes

No, but one of my coworkers looks like Salma Hayek. Truly.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 23, 2022 01:46 PM (bkUtD)

273 Also, with regard to cops, I need to find out how Lady YD could have been so inattentive that our two older children (11 & 13) could have snuck off to join a PD 1,000 miles away without us knowing...

Tim Dillon covered a story about two LAPD cops were fired for ignoring crimes in progress, so they could drive their cruiser around Los Angeles pursuing Pokemon on Pokemon GO. They were after a Snorlax when caught. This sounds so much like my kids, that I can only assume it was Lieutenant H and Lieutenant S.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 23, 2022 01:46 PM (Cf/uA)

274 The inanimate object is always the criminal in Dem world and actual criminals are now becoming the victims-
Kathy Hochul
@GovKathyHochul
Last night, a shot from an illegal gun took the life of a
@NYPDnews
officer.

When I say we're going to do everything we can to stop the scourge of illegal guns in our state, it's not just talk. We are tripling funding for efforts to get these guns off the streets.

https://tinyurl.com/jzjt9a9z

Posted by: redridinghood at January 23, 2022 01:46 PM (NpAcC)

275 I still don't understand how public pronouncements about violating one's oath of office are not prosecutable.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 23, 2022 01:43 PM (EZebt)


As I read the Seattle (acting) Chief's statement, it is more about priority - even if that isn't really what it is. Unlike the DAs who are out there saying yeah we just aren't going to prosecute these crimes.

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 01:46 PM (9otr5)

276 Want to know what the world as we know it coming to an end is like?

You're soaking in it.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 23, 2022 01:47 PM (Fs5vw)

277 I always like to make fun of the scenes in old movies where the public didn't even blink an eye.

Perp running away .

" Stop or I'll shoot ! Bam Bam Bam ! "

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 01:47 PM (z8oRC)

278 >>>I bet internally you are under more of a microscope than you've ever been.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter

It's why i love going to the gym. After work, I am usually really stressed out. The city is looking to get rid of people with a lot of time on the job. When someone like me retires, they lose the salary and hires someone new at a much lower rate.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 23, 2022 01:47 PM (bkUtD)

279
Someone said a better name for the Safe Streets Worker would be "Woke Suicide Squad'.

Posted by: YIKES! at January 23, 2022 01:47 PM (t6XCL)

280 81 million votes.

And no more Mean Tweets.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 23, 2022 01:48 PM (Xrfse)

281 No, but one of my coworkers looks like Salma Hayek. Truly.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 23, 2022 01:46 PM (bkUtD)


This could be good for recruiting.

Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 01:48 PM (9otr5)

282 Nobody wants to be a victim.
Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at January 23, 2022 01:42 PM (0OmEj)


Even though a large portion of our society has made a living being a victim. There's a difference from safe victimhood for political points and the real deal.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at January 23, 2022 01:48 PM (wAnMi)

283 >>>This could be good for recruiting.
Posted by: blaster


She's crazy pretty and a great detective.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 23, 2022 01:48 PM (bkUtD)

284 never knew the norms could be so savory

Posted by: REDACTED at January 23, 2022 01:49 PM (us2H3)

285
firearm-wielding criminal, 1 - social worker, 0

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 23, 2022 01:49 PM (pNxlR)

286
Baltimore Mayor Brandon Scott

Posted by: YIKES! at January 23, 2022 01:50 PM (t6XCL)

287 "Destroy society and then rebuild it any way you want."

Yup. Paraphrasing an item I read on Insty: They cannot create Utopia if a lot of people are satisfied with their present lives and having some fun. They must abolish/destroy the satisfying and fun things.

Posted by: Gref at January 23, 2022 01:50 PM (AMIL/)

288 es, violating the first rule of gun fighting usually fails to pay dividends. Jeff Cooper RIP.

Posted by: Ghost Dog at January 23, 2022 01:51 PM (itzQE)

289 Losing Taiwan would be a more serious loss, it is a vibrant, economically important Western style democracy poking the eye of the CCP every day.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 23, 2022 01:51 PM (EZebt)

290 Fox News Poll: Voters split on congressional election.

This is their poll equivalent of calling Arizona.

Likely voters. 41 Democrat. 40 Republican. 20 "Other"

Fox News. Enemy of the people.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2022 01:51 PM (Y45pj)

291 No, but one of my coworkers looks like Salma Hayek. Truly.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 23, 2022 01:46 PM (bkUtD)

This could be good for recruiting.
Posted by: blaster at January 23, 2022 01:48 PM (9otr5)


Last co-worker I had looked like Rosie O'donald before any diet.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2022 01:53 PM (axyOa)

292 The NY post (ostensibly) had a photo of the murder weapon used by the gunman to kill the 2 cops in Harlem.
Pictured was a Glock .45. It had an extended magazine from which dangled a large drum. Yes, a drum, like the Tommy guns. Never seen one.
I might bring this up in the gun thread.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 23, 2022 01:53 PM (jTmQV)

293 We could start implementing the death penalty within two weeks in cases where there is no question of the guilt of the murderer as in the shooting of the two NYC officers.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 01:53 PM (z8oRC)

294 Losing Taiwan would be a more serious loss, it is a vibrant, economically important Western style democracy poking the eye of the CCP every day.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 23, 2022 01:51 PM


If China invades and conquers Taiwan then Singapore, Vietnam, etc. follow soon after.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at January 23, 2022 01:53 PM (bVYXr)

295 me wifey is from Baltimore

she left for Cherry Hills in 68, then to Columbus for a couple and the ended up in Dallas in the early 70's where I met her

she doesn't miss Baltimore but does miss Dallas

Posted by: REDACTED at January 23, 2022 01:53 PM (us2H3)

296 I mean if there were any content.


I read from the bottom up.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 23, 2022 01:54 PM (yQpMk)

297 89 Losing Taiwan would be a more serious loss, it is a vibrant, economically important Western style democracy poking the eye of the CCP every day.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 23, 2022 01:51 PM (EZebt)

Agree. Taiwan is the Israel of the Far East.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 23, 2022 01:54 PM (Fs5vw)

298 Fox News. Enemy of the people.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2022 01:51 PM (Y45pj)

boy, this a mouthful of troof

Posted by: REDACTED at January 23, 2022 01:54 PM (us2H3)

299 gourmand did this last week on YouTube but didn't watch the video

Posted by: Skip at January 23, 2022 01:55 PM (2JoB8)

300 NYC essentially has a handgun ban. But it's only for legal handguns. They also have a 10 round magazine ban. Also only for legal handguns.

That ends next month when SCOTUS rules.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2022 01:55 PM (Y45pj)

301
If China invades and conquers Taiwan then Singapore, Vietnam, etc. follow soon after.
Posted by: Mister Scott]/i]

Dominoes again?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 23, 2022 01:55 PM (63Dwl)

302
It's why i love going to the gym. After work, I am usually really stressed out. The city is looking to get rid of people with a lot of time on the job. When someone like me retires, they lose the salary and hires someone new at a much lower rate.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 23, 2022 01:47 PM


Don't overdo it. I have a friend, former Philly detective, who retired to FL and is having his hips replaced. Big time jogger for decades. He knows you, you probably know him.

Save some of that energy for walking on the warm sandy beach in FL.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 23, 2022 01:55 PM (dQvv7)

303
I'm betting that cracking down on paper plates will be shown to have a 'Disparate Impact', ergo, racist.
Posted by: Ivan


Dunno. Most paper plates are white, so "justice will be served!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at January 23, 2022 01:56 PM (pNxlR)

304 Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 23, 2022 01:53 PM (jTmQV)

Me either. I've seen the drum for 9mm in the full auto Glock 18 but not a .45 model. Supposedly he had stolen the gun.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 01:56 PM (z8oRC)

305 Destroy society and then rebuild it any way you want.


Except like everything that comes from Satan, there will be no rebuilding. All they know how to do is destroy.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at January 23, 2022 01:56 PM (eKvjl)

306 -

Posted by: DB - the king is a fink! at January 23, 2022 01:56 PM (geLO8)

307 Fox News Poll: Voters split on congressional election.


I saw that. Immediately thought this is an incredibly stupid headline. Voters are always split. Duh! It is absolutely meaningless.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2022 01:56 PM (axyOa)

308 No, but one of my coworkers looks like Salma Hayek. Truly.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp

Whoa !

Tell her I said Hiya !

Posted by: JT at January 23, 2022 01:56 PM (arJlL)

309 Philly is doing the same thing. It begins at the end of the month. Blows a red light? No problem. Hit and run? No problem. Kill someone, probably no problem.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 23, 2022 01:22 PM (bkUtD)

JFC

Posted by: vmom stabby stabby stabby stabamillion at January 23, 2022 01:57 PM (lCui1)

310 "she doesn't miss Baltimore but does miss Dallas
Posted by: REDACTED at January 23, 2022 01:53 PM (us2H3)"

How the heck do you actually state with a straight face that people are split on the congressional ballot when every other poll shows Republicans leading?

While I am not a big believer in polls and there is a lifetime between now and November, there is simply zero credibility at Faux News.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2022 01:57 PM (Y45pj)

311 My prediction is spring/summer of next year. Once Jinping is affirmed as President for Life at 20th Party Congress in the fall, he will wait for the good weather and defeat the gweilo once and for all, securing his place among the Middle Kingdom's great Emperors.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 23, 2022 01:57 PM (Cf/uA)

312 she left for Cherry Hills in 68, then to Columbus for a couple and the ended up in Dallas in the early 70's where I met her

she doesn't miss Baltimore but does miss Dallas
Posted by: REDACTED

I lived in Big D from 1967-1984. I loved Dallas.
You couldn't pay me to live there now.

Posted by: nurse ratched at January 23, 2022 01:58 PM (U2p+3)

313 Three Killed, Including Safe Streets Worker, In East Baltimore Quadruple Shooting

**

This is my favorite story of 2022 so far.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - read closely, it's impossible to get a negative result from the free COVID tests at January 23, 2022 01:58 PM (3OJMs)

314 "I saw that. Immediately thought this is an incredibly stupid headline. Voters are always split. Duh! It is absolutely meaningless.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2022 01:56 PM (axyOa)"

And they split the demo in a way almost no other poll did. It's garbage and they know it. This is the result of Fox hiring former WaPo and Atlantic reporters to staff and write stories for their website.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2022 01:59 PM (Y45pj)

315 The push to defund police only happens in largely unarmed locations. Blue cities. In red areas the armed areas police are seen as a necessity for a reason. Armed citizens are more numerous than the police. I'd say my neighborhood is as well armed as our local police if not better armed.We don't ever see patrols here they aren't needed. Also our murder rate is nonexistent. We don't want to defund our police they live here and they do a job that needs to be done.Note... I live in a blue state but red area. I dont go into the City unless absolutely necessary.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at January 23, 2022 02:00 PM (0OmEj)

316 292 The NY post (ostensibly) had a photo of the murder weapon used by the gunman to kill the 2 cops in Harlem.
Pictured was a Glock .45. It had an extended magazine from which dangled a large drum. Yes, a drum, like the Tommy guns. Never seen one.
I might bring this up in the gun thread.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 23, 2022 01:53 PM (jTmQV)


I had not heard of them either, but below is a link where you can purchase ones that look like the one in the NY Post photo. ProMag makes one in 9mm, not sure about 45 ACP.

https://tinyurl.com/56vd7m5m

Posted by: Gref at January 23, 2022 02:00 PM (AMIL/)

317 FIRST AT NOOD, FIRST AT PEACE

Posted by: Skip guy who says NOOD at January 23, 2022 02:00 PM (2JoB8)

318 If China invades and conquers Taiwan then Singapore, Vietnam, etc. follow soon after.
Posted by: Mister Scott]

They tried VietNam in '79. Didnt go so well.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 23, 2022 02:02 PM (axyOa)

319 Posted by: Gref at January 23, 2022 02:00 PM (AMIL/)

Yes it's the .45 that's confusing. A fully loaded .45 drum would weigh a ton for hand gun usage.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 02:02 PM (z8oRC)

320 as I recall,back in Early 1960's, every town had 2 sides of Railroad Tracks. One side of town was respectful,&other area was "anything goes".
Underlying Assumption was,IF you are in the Wild Sector of town,you are Choosing your part.
No coddling then. No racism, because I am describing northern NewEngland demographics.

Posted by: zigzag at January 23, 2022 02:02 PM (z8qdN)

321 311 My prediction is spring/summer of next year. Once Jinping is affirmed as President for Life at 20th Party Congress in the fall, he will wait for the good weather and defeat the gweilo once and for all, securing his place among the Middle Kingdom's great Emperors.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 23, 2022 01:57 PM (Cf/uA)

Astute analysis.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 23, 2022 02:03 PM (Fs5vw)

322 The link provided by Greg (thank you) says they make them for .45acp.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 23, 2022 02:03 PM (jTmQV)

323 >>>When someone like me retires, they lose the salary and hires someone new at a much lower rate.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 23, 2022 01:47 PM (bkUtD)
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Have they thought about offering parachutes?

Posted by: Braenyard at January 23, 2022 02:03 PM (Wj/z9)

324 Gref, not Greg. Sorry.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 23, 2022 02:04 PM (jTmQV)

325 The NY post (ostensibly) had a photo of the murder weapon used by the gunman to kill the 2 cops in Harlem.
Pictured was a Glock .45. It had an extended magazine from which dangled a large drum. Yes, a drum, like the Tommy guns. Never seen one.
I might bring this up in the gun thread.

**

And lost in the conversation will be that possession of the gun itself was illegal, as was the murder. I've got $1000 that says the POS was a felon who wasn't legally allowed to own a firearm, too.

Nothing about the magazine needs to be in the discussion, but it will be what is used to ban them for people in Arkansas who like to spend their time efficiently at the range.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - read closely, it's impossible to get a negative result from the free COVID tests at January 23, 2022 02:05 PM (3OJMs)

326 The link provided by Greg (thank you) says they make them for .45acp.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 23, 2022 02:03 PM (jTmQV)

Yep. I wouldn't use a pro mag though if my life was depended on it working. Would be fun to shoot at the range though.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 23, 2022 02:06 PM (z8oRC)

327 324 Gref, not Greg. Sorry.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 23, 2022 02:04 PM (jTmQV)


No problem. Just don't call me Brandon!

Posted by: Gref at January 23, 2022 02:07 PM (AMIL/)

328 Great movie idea doll. Sit in my lap and take notes.

I'm seeing American Graffiti + Death Race.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at January 23, 2022 02:08 PM (7xE4R)

329 In days past, before the unfortunate mishap, I owned a 100 rd. drum for a Thompson, which I also never owned.
It was junk, probably worked reasonably when new.
I figure there was a reason for the redesign.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 23, 2022 02:08 PM (jTmQV)

330 The fact that it was pro-mag probably saved a dozen cops.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - read closely, it's impossible to get a negative result from the free COVID tests at January 23, 2022 02:09 PM (3OJMs)

331 How the heck do you actually state with a straight face that people are split on the congressional ballot when every other poll shows Republicans leading?

While I am not a big believer in polls and there is a lifetime between now and November, there is simply zero credibility at Faux News.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2022 01:57 PM (Y45pj)
************
Every poll on all shows that I watch at Fox has the Democrats losing Biggly.
That's all they discuss and they trash the Dems and their policies on pretty much every show.

Look at all the conservatives they have hired and the revamping they've done.
Next week Jessie Watters starts him Primetime show.
They are removing the old guard.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 23, 2022 02:10 PM (NpAcC)

332 Is it true that 140 Republican congress people are lobbying with the dems to remove the China tariffs?

Posted by: Capital Eff at January 23, 2022 02:13 PM (GYllL)

333 "...140 Republican congress people are lobbying with the dems to remove the China tariffs?"

I wouldn't doubt it. They are dipping their beaks, same as the Dems. Plenty in the GOP hated Trump, still do.
The sellout is bipartisan.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 23, 2022 02:14 PM (jTmQV)

334 >>333 "...140 Republican congress people are lobbying with the dems to remove the China tariffs?"

I wouldn't doubt it. They are dipping their beaks, same as the Dems. Plenty in the GOP hated Trump, still do.
The sellout is bipartisan.
Posted by: gourmand du jour

If true, I'm hoping MTG and Trump take this into consideration before they release their endorsement lists.

Posted by: Capital Eff at January 23, 2022 02:16 PM (GYllL)

335 300 NYC essentially has a handgun ban. But it's only for legal handguns. They also have a 10 round magazine ban. Also only for legal handguns.

That ends next month when SCOTUS rules.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 23, 2022 01:55 PM (Y45pj)

I have zero faith in the Court. We'll see.

Posted by: Cow Demon at January 23, 2022 02:32 PM (CdZ4i)

336 North Tulsa -- gangs

South Tulsa -- soccer leagues

(Southside must have the drug buyers, too. No money in North Tulsa.)

East Tulsa -- immigrants

West Tulsa -- rednecks

Posted by: Weak Geek at January 23, 2022 03:44 PM (Om/di)

337 Will anyone ever mention the criminal behavior in the black community? That would be RACIST. No families life. Raised on the streets. Wonder what could go wrong.

Posted by: alan stern at January 23, 2022 06:04 PM (WV5Kq)

338 It is easier to destroy than to build.

Posted by: Minuteman at January 23, 2022 06:14 PM (LaNzR)

339 # 29 - Duke Lowell
"29 Stand back everyone, I'm a conflict resolution specialist!

BLAM BLAM BLAM "

= = = = = =

Heh. Way back before my first 29th birthday, Mad Magazine did a send-up of the TV series The Rifleman (Chuck Connors played the just-a-peaceful-sodbuster-with-a-rifle character). One panel was pretty close to the above: "Clear the streets everybody, I'm feeling a mighty peace-loving mood coming on!"

Posted by: Doo-Dah, Doo-Dah at January 23, 2022 09:10 PM (stR+o)

340 "promoting a message of redemption and peace to our young people", hmm, that used to be the job of our preachers and ministers. But the Communists in control have sought to destroy church and religion in this country, and they now reap the whirlwind they desired.

Posted by: Rick Yarnell at January 23, 2022 11:00 PM (WlkuX)

341 The plan is to replace the police with Antifa / BLM types. Same thing they're trying to do with the military.

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