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Gird. Your. Loins.: Rachel Maddow Claims That Biden Heroically Stood at the Podium for One Hour and Fifty Minutes to... Send a Powerful Signal to Vladimir Putin That He Was Strong And Had Stamina for the Long War Ahead
Remember when I said the only thing the left could find to praise in Biden's press conference was its duration? (Which wasn't even all that long?)
Well, Maddow decided to take the leftist meme of the night and go insane with it -- as usual -- and link it to MuhRussia -- as usual -- and claim that Biden stood there and took questions for a full 110 minutes just to send an unmistakable signal to Putin that he was ready for a push-up contest with nuclear missiles if Vladdy wanted one. This isn't Trump's America anymore, Vlad! Poppa Biden's gonna show you how he took care of business with Corn-Pop!"With all the talk about Putin and him talking about ... the question of whether Putin is going to invade Ukraine might ... be decided by which side of the bed Putin wakes up on -- and all this stuff about trying to get Putin's head. One part of me wondered if he was trying to sort of ape Putin's annual press conference thing where he does these sort of feats of strength. He does these feats of stamina showing how long that he can continue to go taking these questions. So that was part of it," Maddow said.You all heard Biden give Putin the go-head for a "just the tip" "minor incursion" into Ukraine. Rachel Maddow, on the other hand, saw Biden deliver a "Tear down this wall" challenge.
Sounds like Rachel's girding her own loins for a man for the first time in her life. Speaking of overpromoted coozes: Kamala Harris. I will take Kamala Harris' side 100% non-ironically and say absolutely, the old white man who is her boss-puppet emphatically did not position her for success, because she had to go out on TV shows and explain whether Biden did or did not believe that the midterm elections would be illegitimate. Because Kamala Harris didn't know the answer -- I mean, does Biden actually know what Biden thinks? Did Ron Klain tell him what Biden thinks? -- she had to do what Kamala always does, dodge the question by filling up the air with nonsensical babblings. And when that doesn't work, she gets, what is the word? Bitchy. She gets bitchy. Which is what her nasty senile boss does, too.
Is President Biden really concerned that we may not have free and fair elections? -@SavannahGuthrie to @VP pic.twitter.com/pQmv6MLVb5
— TODAY (@TODAYshow) January 20, 2022
WATCH: Veep Thoughts With @KamalaHarris
— Washington Free Beacon (@FreeBeacon) January 17, 2022
"It is time for us to do what we have been doing. And that time is every day."https://t.co/FbDCqU46Jp pic.twitter.com/Cld6rUOebB
Jen Psaki is almost at a loss for words when a reporter DIRECTLY quotes Joe Biden casting doubt on the integrity of future elections. pic.twitter.com/7tENsnD6Dm
— Townhall.com (@townhallcom) January 20, 2022
Joe ConchaIt can be interpreted as "Orange Man Bad, 2020 Elections Perfect, seditious conspiracy to question them, 2022 elections... we'll see. We'll see." Returning to Rachel Maddow's insensate claim that Brandon's press conference intimidated Putin rather than emboldening him: Weird, the State Department doesn't agree, because they lit up reporters' email to clean up Brandon's open invitation for a "minor incursion" in Ukraine.
@JoeConchaTV Here’s what Biden said yesterday: "The increase in the prospect of (future elections) being illegitimate is in direct proportion to us not being able to get these (voting) reforms passed." How else can this be interpreted?
CNN’s Dana Bash on Biden’s disastrous press conference: “Clean up on aisle State Department.” pic.twitter.com/2PzKaxafk6
— RNC Research (@RNCResearch) January 19, 2022
The President of Ukraine sure didn't think that Brandon was challenging Putin to a Festivus Feats of Strength, either. He seemed to think that Brandon had all but clipped the barbed wire to help Putin start his invasion:
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John Hayward
@Doc_0
Biden's handlers do not understand the psychological impact of dispatching his flacks to insist the senile old man didn't say any of the things he clearly said in his dumpster fire press conference. They're on the verge of turning low poll numbers into national panic.
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(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at January 20, 2022 04:17 PM (XvPQV)
Posted by: 496 at January 20, 2022 04:17 PM (VJsqe)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at January 20, 2022 04:17 PM (XvPQV)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at January 20, 2022 04:18 PM (XvPQV)
Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2022 04:18 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Searching with John Ford at January 20, 2022 04:18 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at January 20, 2022 04:18 PM (DnWKq)
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at January 20, 2022 04:19 PM (II3Gr)
Posted by: Vladimir Putin at January 20, 2022 04:19 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: Izzy Mandelbaum at January 20, 2022 04:19 PM (QYPq3)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at January 20, 2022 04:19 PM (XvPQV)
Posted by: CN at January 20, 2022 04:20 PM (ONvIw)
"No, it was the dirtiest election ever because Republicans won. Obviously."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Searching with John Ford at January 20, 2022 04:20 PM (LvTSG)
Nevertrump inc.
Posted by: Bete at January 20, 2022 04:20 PM (Ojki1)
Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2022 04:20 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2022 04:20 PM (mD/uy)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 20, 2022 04:20 PM (DU+/6)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - N95 masks are single use at January 20, 2022 04:21 PM (5q92e)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 20, 2022 04:21 PM (wmDcS)
We were just talking with the man the other day, it feels like...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at January 20, 2022 04:21 PM (XvPQV)
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at January 20, 2022 04:21 PM (bVYXr)
Posted by: 18-1
Without a doubt! I'd take that chance.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2022 04:21 PM (mD/uy)
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Sadly, it probably was. Not this specifically, but I would not be surprised in the slightest if the WH comms office has a team of spin doctors on standby whenever they have to trundle the old dotard out into public so they can quickly produce and release corrections.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 20, 2022 04:21 PM (DU+/6)
Posted by: Legion of Boom at January 20, 2022 04:22 PM (01vgK)
2019: We are impeaching Trump because he didn't start ANY wars. What an asshole.
2022: War. HUH. What's it good for? HUH! Absolutely everything!
Posted by: The Left at January 20, 2022 04:22 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2022 04:22 PM (m45I2)
Posted by: Abraham Lincoln at January 20, 2022 04:22 PM (CTJwJ)
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This is routine. Biden says one thing then claims he didn't The stakes are much higher now than they were when he was stupidly shouting at Clarence Thomas, though.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 20, 2022 04:22 PM (DU+/6)
Posted by: The Left at January 20, 2022 04:22 PM (ESjRY)
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"Wait a second..."
-Code Pink
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Searching with John Ford at January 20, 2022 04:23 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: nckate at January 20, 2022 04:23 PM (z5Nun)
Posted by: Roberto O'Reich at January 20, 2022 04:23 PM (UHVv4)
"It is time for us to do what we have been doing. And that time is every day."
_________
Oh, wow, man. That's, like, deep.
*takes another bong hit*
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 20, 2022 04:23 PM (/U27+)
Posted by: micky at January 20, 2022 04:23 PM (3byMq)
We were just talking with the man the other day, it feels like...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at January 20, 2022 04:21 PM (XvPQV)
Oh no you just asked for details.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 20, 2022 04:23 PM (NqZ29)
*apologies to the ettes for the Jack Murphy like visuals.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2022 04:23 PM (dNqv+)
Just saying.
Posted by: junior at January 20, 2022 04:23 PM (XS82T)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 20, 2022 04:22 PM (DU+/6)
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When your party flacks have no time to actually try to advance any narrative, needing to constantly walk back what the boss said because the boss is an idiot who doesn't know what he's talking about.
Yeah...this will get better with Kamala in charge.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Searching with John Ford at January 20, 2022 04:24 PM (LvTSG)
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About as much content as the sign in Bob Evans Restaurants: "Everybody is somebody at Bob Evans."
Posted by: Legion of Boom at January 20, 2022 04:24 PM (01vgK)
Posted by: Revenant at January 20, 2022 04:24 PM (T4RS9)
Posted by: nckate at January 20, 2022 04:23 PM (z5Nun)
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Disagreed - Hunter Biden has enriched himself at Ukraine's expense for years. He should be there fighting side-by-side with them.
Posted by: 496 at January 20, 2022 04:24 PM (VJsqe)
- Hunter and Joe, looking at Ashley
Posted by: Moron Robbie - N95 masks are single use at January 20, 2022 04:24 PM (5q92e)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2022 04:24 PM (Irn0L)
This is totally false. I wear a shirt at work, what, do you think I have no manners?
Also while it is true I ride a bear to work, I only cavort with hot, nubile female gymnasts.
And let me say unlike your president, only the adult ones.
Posted by: V Putin at January 20, 2022 04:24 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 20, 2022 04:20 PM (DU+/6)
It is, props to Ace.
Somehow the Veep TV show turned out to be prophesy...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at January 20, 2022 04:25 PM (XvPQV)
Only when the Russians don't play along and instead either a) take Kiev and install a puppet government, or b) simply carve off the eastern portion of the country, the Biden admin will flail and likely get us drawn further in. I could see the Russians shooting down US transports, with the US response resulting in an air and naval battle in either the Baltic or Black seas.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 20, 2022 04:25 PM (wmDcS)
Posted by: Joe Biden at January 20, 2022 04:25 PM (CTJwJ)
Yeah...this will get better with Kamala in charge.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Searching with John Ford at January 20, 2022 04:24 PM (LvTSG)
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It might. She's more competent than Biden. Not a lot more, but more. She's also super bitchy and arrogant, though, so she might not take direction any better.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 20, 2022 04:25 PM (DU+/6)
I don't believe it has anything to do with Putin. I think it's more likely he saw polls that were saying Americans think he's feeble and addled and he said, "God-damn it, I'll show them! I'll stand up there and answer questions until the reporters are begging for a break!"
Posted by: bonhomme at January 20, 2022 04:25 PM (AhhdW)
Go back and read what I said! Plus, I'll also have you know that Clarence Thomas is my favorite member of the E-Street Band.
Posted by: Joey B at January 20, 2022 04:25 PM (HmZuC)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 20, 2022 04:25 PM (mdjgu)
I also give no fucks about Ukraine. Not one American life, not one American dollar should be spent to defend Ukraine. We have many problems and this isn't one of them.
Posted by: Revenant at January 20, 2022 04:24 PM (T4RS9)
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You won't be saying that when the Red Army juggernaut is rolling into Uzbekistan.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 20, 2022 04:25 PM (/U27+)
Willowed: Here's the link
https://tinyurl.com/2cpat4y6
Posted by: bicentennialguy at January 20, 2022 04:16 PM (IytoW)
We are gaining ground. They are back on their heels attempting to explain placebo effect to people can't even spell "placebo." I'll take it.
Last week, DARPA docs confirmed lab leak likelihood and that they suppressed use of potentially effective therapeutics HCQ and IVM. Yesterday, we learned of the 2018 Moderna patented sequence in the CCP-virus spike protein.
A shit storm is coming.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, mourner at January 20, 2022 04:26 PM (SH2Zi)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - N95 masks are single use at January 20, 2022 04:26 PM (5q92e)
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 20, 2022 04:26 PM (UHVv4)
Sure.
Is Maddow's wife Morgan Fairchild by any chance?
Posted by: Axeman at January 20, 2022 04:26 PM (XHhHI)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2022 04:26 PM (ZLI7S)
In short, the current president of the Ukraine could potentially end up exposing Biden's corruption. With the receipts.
Posted by: junior at January 20, 2022 04:26 PM (XS82T)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 20, 2022 04:26 PM (bkUtD)
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at January 20, 2022 04:26 PM (DnWKq)
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at January 20, 2022 04:26 PM (SyXkh)
Some selected text
https://www.powerlineblog.com/
archives/2022/01/
a-senile-phantasmagoria.php
I commented during he wasn't making any intelligible sentences
Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2022 04:26 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: wth at January 20, 2022 04:26 PM (v0R5T)
HISSSSSSS
I'M FAT, FETID AND FAMILIAR!!!
YOU WANT ME
YOU NEED ME
Posted by: CHTILLARY at January 20, 2022 04:26 PM (eN5F0)
It was stupid then with Obama and it's even dumber now considering Biden and the fact he's less sturdy than a dollar store tripod.
Putin is a man who I'm sure more than once in his life has had to take out a handkerchief and wipe blood off his shoes.
Anyone who thinks a politician, Democrat or Republican, is going to intimidate this guy, they really need to lay off the Marvel movies.
Posted by: Azathoth at January 20, 2022 04:27 PM (W3VUu)
Posted by: nckate at January 20, 2022 04:27 PM (z5Nun)
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 20, 2022 04:27 PM (UHVv4)
We just cut and ran from the Taliban - and now does anyone think we will fight the Russians for real?
We lost something like...5K men in the WoT. What happens when we lose that many in a week?
Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2022 04:27 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2022 04:23 PM (dNqv+)
Well I think we've heard a lot worse, but that's nice of you.
Posted by: Jordan61 at January 20, 2022 04:27 PM (Ez6QX)
Imagine if he had stood up for almost two hours AND was black.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - N95 masks are single use at January 20, 2022 04:26 PM (5q92e)
______
And a lesbian.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 20, 2022 04:27 PM (/U27+)
Posted by: wth at January 20, 2022 04:27 PM (v0R5T)
I'm pretty sure there's footage of Putin flying around on a freakin' hang-glider for longer than that presser. Leading the birds to freedom or whatever that stunt was.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 20, 2022 04:27 PM (4odx6)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 20, 2022 04:26 PM (bkUtD)
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Leave Eastern Europe to the Eastern Europeans.
They hate use anyway for all of our foreign meddling.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Searching with John Ford at January 20, 2022 04:27 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2022 04:27 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at January 20, 2022 04:27 PM (awmcV)
Posted by: KAMALA at January 20, 2022 04:27 PM (786Ro)
Gentlemen! At Midnight Saturday we begin the Glorious Struggle to Recapture the Motherland and Free Out Russian Brothers and Sisters from the Evil Fascist Ukranians! I expect every Russian to do his duty!
Now go to your units! We have a small incursion to win!
Posted by: General Ivan Ivanov at January 20, 2022 04:28 PM (Z32m1)
And tomorrow.
Posted by: ... at January 20, 2022 04:28 PM (/9mpK)
It's like fucking BURISMA never existed.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at January 20, 2022 04:28 PM (3cHMA)
Enjoy getting what you agitated for, jackasses.
Posted by: DudeAbiding at January 20, 2022 04:28 PM (Y7Ajm)
******
I'm going to guess electroshock therapy. What do I win?
Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2022 04:28 PM (m45I2)
==
Ukraine's President was pissed because Joe Biden treated him like Hunter treated the stripper prostitute of his bastard kid.
Posted by: But of course, what would you expect from a Biden anyway? at January 20, 2022 04:28 PM (FOSUO)
for example, everybody talks about how Russia has control over the energy supply that Europe absorbs. Well, guess what? That -- that money that they earn from that makes about 45 percent of the economy. I don't see that as a one-way street. They go ahead and cut it off -- it's like my mother used to say: "You bite your nose off to spite your face." It's not like they have all these wonderful choices out there.
{five minutes later}
And I think there's ways in which we can be of some value added in terms of the price of gas -- natural gas and the like -- to take the burden off of European countries that are now totally dependent on Russia. But it's going to be hard. It's going to be very hard.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 20, 2022 04:29 PM (DU+/6)
And where is he today? Is he still sleeping.
Remember the days of Trump standing up there for hours a few times a week? Good times.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 20, 2022 04:29 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2022 04:27 PM (ESjRY)
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We'll call up the 109th Transgender Brigade as reinforcements. The power of our diversity will make our enemies tremble.
Posted by: Thoroughly Modern General Milley at January 20, 2022 04:29 PM (T4RS9)
Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at January 20, 2022 04:29 PM (8D42x)
This infuriates me.
https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=5H3Ojbxzr9o
Posted by: Capital Eff at January 20, 2022 04:29 PM (GYllL)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - N95 masks are single use at January 20, 2022 04:29 PM (5q92e)
Posted by: I Mean at January 20, 2022 04:29 PM (Z54n9)
Posted by: Your Illustrious Media at January 20, 2022 04:29 PM (/9mpK)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 20, 2022 04:26 PM (bkUtD)
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Leave Eastern Europe to the Eastern Europeans.
They hate use anyway for all of our foreign meddling.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Searching with John Ford at January 20, 2022 04:27 PM (LvTSG)
Well when we promise to defend their sovereignty in return for them giving up their nukes and we fuck them over...they ought to hate us. I hate us right now.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at January 20, 2022 04:29 PM (XvPQV)
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Oregon Muse at January 20, 2022 04:29 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, mourner at January 20, 2022 04:29 PM (SH2Zi)
Posted by: Lady in Black at January 20, 2022 04:29 PM (sVtYq)
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Oregon Muse at January 20, 2022 04:29 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Ishmael at January 20, 2022 04:29 PM (786Ro)
Rachel Maddow and Mayor Pete show you how much brain power it takes to be a Rhodes Scholar.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 20, 2022 04:29 PM (/U27+)
This should make for some epic LOLs.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2022 04:29 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at January 20, 2022 04:30 PM (5pTK/)
Posted by: Aetius451AD
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Don't know how the guy is but thanks for the sentiment.
No need to explain who he is either.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at January 20, 2022 04:30 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: JT at January 20, 2022 04:30 PM (arJlL)
Posted by: SteveOReno, I proudly self-identify as a Moron at January 20, 2022 04:30 PM (2sCft)
Posted by: Azathoth at January 20, 2022 04:30 PM (W3VUu)
Yes. Regularly.
His SOTU speeches were epic.
Posted by: Capital Eff at January 20, 2022 04:30 PM (GYllL)
Kamala gets bitchy because she is a hothouse flower and cant take any heat.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at January 20, 2022 04:30 PM (EZebt)
The elections are going to be tots legit...in every race where a dem wins.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 20, 2022 04:30 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 20, 2022 04:25 PM (wmDcS)
The longer the Russians stay in Ukraine proper, the more "false flag" attacks against Russians in Ukraine will occur. However, Putin will certainly raze Kiev from Belarus to send a message: Russians are not to be fucked with.
Posted by: trev006 at January 20, 2022 04:30 PM (1aBdX)
Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2022 04:30 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at January 20, 2022 04:29 PM (XvPQV)
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Did we make that agreement through treaty? Or was this the administrative state doing foreign policy with little, if any, input from the people?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Searching with John Ford at January 20, 2022 04:30 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Q at January 20, 2022 04:30 PM (ESjRY)
"This virus is MUCH more contagious than polio and is about as risky statistically."
Posted by: Moron Robbie - N95 masks are single use at January 20, 2022 04:30 PM (5q92e)
Posted by: wth at January 20, 2022 04:27 PM (v0R5T)
Is that like the third rail? Or Base?
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2022 04:30 PM (dNqv+)
Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at January 20, 2022 04:30 PM (awmcV)
They hate use anyway for all of our foreign meddling.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
I think Poland and Hungary like us, but I see your point. Lord knows western Europe hates us. At least Trump anyway.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 20, 2022 04:31 PM (bkUtD)
Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2022 04:31 PM (m45I2)
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at January 20, 2022 04:31 PM (II3Gr)
g'early afternoon, 'rons
Posted by: AltonJackson at January 20, 2022 04:31 PM (DUIap)
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 20, 2022 04:31 PM (3cGpq)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at January 20, 2022 04:31 PM (RkC6l)
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She has the job, because like her mentor Keith O, she is incapable of self reflection, shame, prudential judgment or shutting up. She is literally a rabid bag of emotionalism.
Posted by: Thank you for asking at January 20, 2022 04:31 PM (wkoKN)
Not Biden confused, just confused.
Posted by: mpfs, History never repeats itself. Man always does... Voltaire at January 20, 2022 04:31 PM (JQGck)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2022 04:31 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 20, 2022 04:29 PM (DU+/6)
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Whatever you think is the bad part of that, President Biden didn't say that.
Posted by: Jenn Hacki at January 20, 2022 04:31 PM (XHhHI)
What do you expect from a Veg-O-Matic?
Shakespeare?
Are you surprised F. Joe didn't recite "The Gettysburgh Zip Code?"
C'mom Man!
Posted by: rd at January 20, 2022 04:31 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at January 20, 2022 04:30 PM (awmcV)
Jumped to the bottom of the comments without reading the content just to make a joke about how Biden is transitioning from push up contests to standing contests and this is the last comment I see. Bah.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 20, 2022 04:32 PM (KbCG3)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 20, 2022 04:32 PM (/U27+)
Sean Davis forgot to mention how biden pressured Ukraine to fire prosecutors.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at January 20, 2022 04:32 PM (3cHMA)
Posted by: Robert Reich at January 20, 2022 04:32 PM (VMY76)
Posted by: Hands at January 20, 2022 04:32 PM (786Ro)
Posted by: Axeman at January 20, 2022 04:32 PM (XHhHI)
Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at January 20, 2022 04:29 PM (8D42x)
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Yes, constantly. And two hours would have been short for one of his daily COVID press conferences.
But the "Biden's presser was longer than any Trump presser" us almost certainly a technical dodge meaning, "no scheduled press conference by the Trump White House for general remarks exceeded the duration of the this Biden press conference." And that might be true, I don't know. But Trump ran marathons with the press, constantly, in all venues.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 20, 2022 04:32 PM (DU+/6)
Posted by: LASue at January 20, 2022 04:33 PM (Ed8Zd)
https://bit.ly/3FTE41G
Summer of Love, baby!
Posted by: bonhomme at January 20, 2022 04:33 PM (AhhdW)
Posted by: Lady in Black at January 20, 2022 04:33 PM (sVtYq)
Posted by: Jenn Hacki at January 20, 2022 04:31 PM (XHhHI)
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That's a copy-and-paste from the official transcript on whitehouse.gov. Be better, Discount Pippi Longstockings.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 20, 2022 04:33 PM (DU+/6)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Searching with John Ford at January 20, 2022 04:30 PM (LvTSG)
A 'memorandum', specifically the Budapest Momorandum on Security Assurances 1994.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at January 20, 2022 04:33 PM (XvPQV)
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Oregon Muse at January 20, 2022 04:33 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at January 20, 2022 04:34 PM (XvPQV)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 20, 2022 04:34 PM (a5d7/)
How its going: When I said the Russians could invade Ukraine I didn't mean they could invade Ukraine. Also, when I promised to defend them from Russia I meant that I actually wouldn't defend them from Russia, but I'd work on some really tough sanctions. Also, I did not shit in my pants, that was some one, probably Donald Trump
Posted by: Joe Biden at January 20, 2022 04:34 PM (ESjRY)
That battle will give America more time to send tanks and other armor to Germany, to protect us.
Posted by: Angela Merkle at January 20, 2022 04:34 PM (VMY76)
Posted by: Shooter McGavin at January 20, 2022 04:34 PM (3saut)
Posted by: Azathoth at January 20, 2022 04:34 PM (W3VUu)
I might guess that Putin was amused.
So, I must have missed something in the coverage of all this, but has Putin actually given anyone a reason to believe he intends to invade Ukraine? Even a bullshitty excuse?
I just wonder if there's anything to any of this aside from DC's need for a narrative.
Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2022 04:34 PM (kOpft)
Watching this asshole trying to president, to the degree he is still a rational conscious actor, is like watching someone try to play Madden who doesn't actually know how the sport of football is played.
They've watched it, and rooted for it, and they own a jersey, but they don't really know anything about the game itself. They're just trying to hook up with the chicks at their buddies' house who do watch football.
Biden has been a detached grifting nonentity for his entire career. He is to presidenting what the drunk old lunatic at Applebee's ranting about how the quarterback sucks is to being an NFL champion.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2022 04:34 PM (6FeV1)
Sorry wingnuts. Everyone knows the "closed-fisted beatdown punch-a-thon" is merely a colloquial idiomatic way of saying politely change the channel when she appears on TV.
Posted by: Robert Reich at January 20, 2022 04:34 PM (/9mpK)
https://bit.ly/3FTE41G
Summer of Love, baby!
Posted by: bonhomme at January 20, 2022 04:33 PM (AhhdW)
The love of a CHAZ isn't like the love of a square...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at January 20, 2022 04:34 PM (XvPQV)
He's right. It craters American's confidence and security and itemboldens our geopolitical rivals. But this is the bed that they made for themselves, and I am LMAO that SCOAMF thought that this third term would somehow be any better for him than if he was the TOTUS.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, mourner at January 20, 2022 04:34 PM (SH2Zi)
.......
the diaper being full within the first 30 minutes shows his dogged perseverance.
Posted by: wth at January 20, 2022 04:34 PM (v0R5T)
There's an issue there and it's annoying as fuck.
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Oregon Muse at January 20, 2022 04:35 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at January 20, 2022 04:31 PM (II3Gr)
You want:
https://tinyurl.com/ysud56mp
You'll get:
https://tinyurl.com/474v6bk6
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2022 04:35 PM (dNqv+)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Searching with John Ford at January 20, 2022 04:30 PM (LvTSG)
A 'memorandum', specifically the Budapest Momorandum on Security Assurances 1994.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at January 20, 2022 04:33 PM (XvPQV)
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Next time, get a treaty. Sorry. But when you make policy like this, it can be easily reversed later. Gotta take that into account. Treaties are shaky enough as it is.
I think it'll be a good thing if the world decides that it can't turn to America for defense all the time. It may be a hard lesson for them to learn, but they should learn it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Searching with John Ford at January 20, 2022 04:35 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Axeman at January 20, 2022 04:35 PM (XHhHI)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2022 04:35 PM (0Cmrx)
re: the Placebo Effect bullshit
In the bodybuilding community, they have a thing called Bro-Science, in which muscleheads share their dubious medical and nutrition knowledge with each other.
We are now at the point of "Broscience" practiced and dispensed by Fake News.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at January 20, 2022 04:35 PM (3cHMA)
Posted by: nckate at January 20, 2022 04:35 PM (z5Nun)
Well, I guess there is a tradition of Hobbits taking down dark lords. And I guess Reich could travel to Mount Doom with Oswald Patton and James Carville to complete the cast?
Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2022 04:35 PM (ESjRY)
Nothing like freshly laundered money.
Posted by: DaveA at January 20, 2022 04:35 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: ... at January 20, 2022 04:35 PM (/9mpK)
Posted by: Angela Merkle at January 20, 2022 04:34 PM (VMY76)
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Shut up and sharpen some more sticks for your soldiers. If sticks are good enough to practice with, they're good enough to fight with.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at January 20, 2022 04:35 PM (5pTK/)
Posted by: Central Intelligence Agency at January 20, 2022 04:36 PM (VMY76)
I might guess that Putin was amused.
==
He's probably still incapacitated from laughing.
Posted by: Lady in Black at January 20, 2022 04:36 PM (sVtYq)
Posted by: LASue at January 20, 2022 04:36 PM (Ed8Zd)
Posted by: Jordan61 at January 20, 2022 04:36 PM (Ez6QX)
Posted by: Capital Eff at January 20, 2022 04:36 PM (GYllL)
Everyone knows that trafficking is just a physical metaphor for public rebuke.
Posted by: Simone at January 20, 2022 04:36 PM (SH2Zi)
You want:
https://tinyurl.com/ysud56mp
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2022 04:35 PM (dNqv+)
Don't mind if I do......
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Oregon Muse at January 20, 2022 04:36 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 20, 2022 04:36 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at January 20, 2022 04:34 PM (XvPQV)
Remember SpokesTits? Wonder what happened to her.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2022 04:36 PM (dNqv+)
Posted by: Behind the Green Peanut M&M at January 20, 2022 04:37 PM (vrz2I)
---------
Out: The Transformation of Water into Wine.
In: The Transformation of Maddow from into Woman.
Posted by: ShainS -- Beware the Branch Covidians at January 20, 2022 04:37 PM (OoffT)
Well, I guess there is a tradition of Hobbits taking down dark lords. And I guess Reich could travel to Mount Doom with Oswald Patton and James Carville to complete the cast?
Posted by: 18-1
==
So Carville goes into the volcano? Yeah, I'd Prolly watch that.
Posted by: Mary Maitlan at January 20, 2022 04:37 PM (8DHGa)
Posted by: LASue at January 20, 2022 04:37 PM (Ed8Zd)
I just wonder if there's anything to any of this aside from DC's need for a narrative.
Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2022 04:34 PM (kOpft)
There isn't much coverage in the US about it, of course. Check out J E Dyer's blog and CDR Salamander's comments on his blog
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at January 20, 2022 04:37 PM (XvPQV)
They hate use anyway for all of our foreign meddling.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Searching with John Ford at January 20, 2022 04:27 PM (LvTSG)
Read Bloodlands. Germany and Russia did their best to Destroy Eastern Europe from 1917 to 1989.
Posted by: rd at January 20, 2022 04:37 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: JackStraw
Look it's just not enough to be a smartass anymore.
We expect more for our entertainment NFT.
https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=HGwQqxDWE2M
Posted by: DaveA at January 20, 2022 04:37 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 20, 2022 04:36 PM (VpIIl)
I stood for two hours yesterday but no one could tell.
Posted by: Robert Reich at January 20, 2022 04:37 PM (/9mpK)
Whatever, don't give a shit about either of 'em.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 20, 2022 04:37 PM (BFigT)
Posted by: wth at January 20, 2022 04:37 PM (v0R5T)
It was staged to show he can stand through a two-hour standup routine, this, not for its content, but simply for its video. Turn off the audio. Just watch him stand there and blab.
It was to show the doubters that he ain't doddering. And to fire up his hard base that he's tough.
Posted by: Mr Gaga at January 20, 2022 04:37 PM (KiBMU)
https://tinyurl.com/474v6bk6
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2022 04:35 PM (dNqv+)
I wouldn't call her fuckable, but I could see it if the alternative was castration.
Now Madeline Albright- go ahead and kill me instead.
Posted by: trev006 at January 20, 2022 04:38 PM (Eqkqm)
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at January 20, 2022 04:31 PM (II3Gr)
You'll get:
https://tinyurl.com/474v6bk6
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2022 04:35 PM (dNqv+)
I'm hoping for this.
https://youtu.be/vfhBX8hxCIU
Are you a big-tittied bellydancer based in Kiev? Are you worried about ending up the war bride to some vodka-soaked Russian sergeant? Want the chance to come to the land of opportunity? Then the Ukrainian Bellydancer Rescue is here for you. Call UBR today!
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 20, 2022 04:38 PM (wmDcS)
Remember when Obama got elected and the left collectively gave Cindy Sheehan a backhand?
Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2022 04:38 PM (ESjRY)
Fukranians can piss up a rope. You bought the ticket. Enjoy the ride.
Posted by: Joe Mama at January 20, 2022 04:38 PM (WmGrA)
Posted by: Old Blue at January 20, 2022 04:38 PM (VNmG1)
Rachel Maddow and Mayor Pete show you how much brain power it takes to be a Rhodes Scholar.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
Which one of them bas breast fed a human infant?
Ha! Trick question! Neither one!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) [/s at January 20, 2022 04:38 PM (pNxlR)
Rachel Maddow Claims That Biden Heroically Stood at the Podium for One Hour and Fifty Minutes to... Send a Powerful Signal to Vladimir Putin That He Was Strong And Had Stamina for the Long War Ahead
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Crusty old delusional lesbian says what?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 20, 2022 04:38 PM (BK2mM)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 20, 2022 04:38 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, mourner
Considering this White House and our work military, does anyone not think we're ripe for an outside invasion>
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 20, 2022 04:38 PM (VWp7G)
We'd be infinitely better off under a Costanza/Kramer administration.
Posted by: Bitter Truth at January 20, 2022 04:38 PM (JCZqz)
Aetius451AD, case in point.
Posted by: Jordan61 at January 20, 2022 04:36 PM (Ez6QX)
Ouch. *rubs arm* Nice.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2022 04:38 PM (dNqv+)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2022 04:38 PM (Irn0L)
So what's it gonna be, this Summer?
More fake race riots?
A retiring Justice?
A new pointless war?
A new fake variant?
Lies about jobs being "saved" by the fake infrastructure bill?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at January 20, 2022 04:38 PM (3cHMA)
Posted by: Well at January 20, 2022 04:38 PM (9zcxd)
Posted by: Hands at January 20, 2022 04:38 PM (786Ro)
The fuck? Most Americans have never met someone with Polio, so they can say stoopid things like this.
Polio is awful. I met a guy in Canada who had Polio. Not only was one leg several inches shorter than the other, he was a broken man.
He couldn't read more than a few sentences at a time because he would get massive headaches. That happened because his skull was malformed and focusing his eyes was a great strain on him.
He had a child's ribcage with adult sized organs.
He was hopelessly addicted to opioids because he was in constant pain.
Polio is absolutely NOTHING like Covid.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 20, 2022 04:38 PM (AhhdW)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2022 04:38 PM (Irn0L)
And And And we can throw in NJ
Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 20, 2022 04:39 PM (Irn0L)
Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2022 04:39 PM (ESjRY)
I might guess that Putin was amused.
==
He's probably still incapacitated from laughing.
==
he's preparing for his meeting with Xi, in which they carve up the world and set new boundaries.
Posted by: Change my mind at January 20, 2022 04:39 PM (QCZTg)
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 20, 2022 04:39 PM (Mzdiz)
He does these feats of stamina showing how long that he can continue to go taking these questions. So that was part of it," Maddow said.
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Perverted communist deviant sell-out mutant says what?
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 20, 2022 04:39 PM (BK2mM)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 20, 2022 04:32 PM
They wanted to counter Trump's AZ rally. They failed.
Posted by: Bert G at January 20, 2022 04:39 PM (OKNkY)
==
He's probably still incapacitated from laughing.
Posted by: Lady in Black at January 20, 2022 04:36 PM (sVtYq)
Posted by: Putin at January 20, 2022 04:40 PM (SH2Zi)
Why not all 3?
==
Spoiler, gollum goes in. Just gollum.
Posted by: Not Joe Bob Briggs but . . . at January 20, 2022 04:40 PM (FOSUO)
Posted by: Azathoth at January 20, 2022 04:40 PM (W3VUu)
In: Retarded Game politics
Posted by: Minuteman at January 20, 2022 04:40 PM (LaNzR)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 20, 2022 04:40 PM (ufFY8)
This virus is MUCH more contagious than polio and is about as risky statistically.
________
Big Iron Lung plots its comeback.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 20, 2022 04:40 PM (/U27+)
Posted by: underpants at January 20, 2022 04:40 PM (/Mn6w)
Posted by: Behind the Green Sausage at January 20, 2022 04:40 PM (vrz2I)
==
He's probably still incapacitated from laughing.
Posted by: Lady in Black at January 20, 2022 04:36 PM (sVtYq)
Fear not, Americans. I merely mean to publicly rebuke Ukraine.
Posted by: Putin at January 20, 2022 04:40 PM (SH2Zi)
We are that, of course, thanks to Obama and the left, but I don't like this pissant country taking advantage of our temporary embarrassment.
Posted by: Ace
I'm sure every where that develops nukes (or has them placed in their country) will feel complete trust in the USA and give them up after President full-pants stood in a dirty diaper for 2 hours and threw Ukraine to Russia.
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 20, 2022 04:40 PM (CCwsu)
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 20, 2022 04:38 PM (wmDcS)
Dear Lord, I hate the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Thankfully: mute button.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2022 04:40 PM (dNqv+)
NO NO Chairman Xi YOU have to take San Francisco - I already agreed to take all those freaks in the Netherlands with their wooden shoes.
Posted by: Vlad Putin, tough negotiator at January 20, 2022 04:41 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2022 04:35 PM (0Cmrx)
She's lazy and she's dumb. And she's mean when cornered.
Trifecta.
Posted by: LASue at January 20, 2022 04:41 PM (Ed8Zd)
Ha! Trick question! Neither one!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) [/s at January 20, 2022 04:38 PM (pNxlR)
==============
But, really, we know which one tried to do so.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 20, 2022 04:41 PM (VMY76)
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at January 20, 2022 04:41 PM (3cHMA)
Posted by: Well at January 20, 2022 04:41 PM (9zcxd)
Posted by: bonhomme
I have had both and can confirm that.
Posted by: Joe Mama at January 20, 2022 04:41 PM (WmGrA)
Posted by: Marcus T
==
Ha ha. Of course there is literally no way he appeared in public not wearing depends.
Well played.
Posted by: Of course, right? at January 20, 2022 04:41 PM (wkoKN)
But, I mean, a meandering two-hour press conference is essentially the same thing as directly telling someone to knock it off or else.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at January 20, 2022 04:41 PM (KbCG3)
Standing for two hours is a pretty low bar. That's the Democrats new test of stamina?
Posted by: Marcus T
You failed to note Lt. Colonel Bearclaw's routinely performed burpee sets cracked off in groups of one hundred at a time.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) [/s at January 20, 2022 04:41 PM (pNxlR)
Next time, get a treaty. Sorry. But when you make policy like this, it can be easily reversed later. Gotta take that into account. Treaties are shaky enough as it is."
speaking of that - looked how we got roped into the Paris accords.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2022 04:42 PM (trdmm)
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at January 20, 2022 04:31 PM (II3Gr)
Just have them check the tire irons and Makarov's at the door and you'll be fine.
Posted by: Capital Eff at January 20, 2022 04:42 PM (GYllL)
So wait...do I get an extra breakfast out of all this, because if so I'm totally down with throwing that other guy in the volcano
Posted by: Patton Oswald at January 20, 2022 04:42 PM (ESjRY)
Welcome to the dark side Ace. I'm all out of fucks to give about any country not called the USA. I'm done being the world's policeman.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 04:42 PM (OalnH)
I'm guessing he has the same stamina as Brandon. Same drugs, too.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 20, 2022 04:42 PM (VpIIl)
"They could tell these soldiers they're battling the Chinese, Russians, Iranians, North Koreans or other foreign enemies but instead they have them training to kill 'freedom fighters' with 'Liberty' flags," writes Menahan.
https://tinyurl.com/2bvp5zk7
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at January 20, 2022 04:42 PM (Wg1SU)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 04:43 PM (OalnH)
_________
Oh, wow, man. That's, like, deep.
*takes another bong hit*
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at January 20, 2022 04:23 PM (/U27+)
even Ogre thinks this is utter dogshit and vapid rumblings of a grade a moron, and not the good kind of moron.
Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at January 20, 2022 04:43 PM (8D42x)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2022 04:35 PM (0Cmrx)
She's lazy and she's dumb. And she's mean when cornered.
Trifecta.
==
I'm gonna blow your minds. I think she was reading that goobly gook off a prompter. Watch her eyes very closely. And at one point she looks off camera very quickly. she was being fed what to say.
Posted by: they aren't letting her freestyle at January 20, 2022 04:43 PM (9xyjo)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 04:42 PM (OalnH)
I dunno. I still think Taiwan is worthy of defense.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2022 04:44 PM (dNqv+)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 04:42 PM (OalnH)
Amen.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 20, 2022 04:44 PM (Mzdiz)
Posted by: Dogbert at January 20, 2022 04:44 PM (Z9HSN)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at January 20, 2022 04:44 PM (LQjWA)
___
Heh. I wonder if we work in the same building. There's a guy out front that shows up around 11 and screams about Jesus saving you for 2-3 hours. Then leaves. Not sure if he's homeless but he's batshit crazy, that's for sure.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 04:44 PM (OalnH)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) [/s at January 20, 2022 04:41 PM (pNxlR) "
That fat bag of shit couldn't even pass the AFT. That's pathetic.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 20, 2022 04:44 PM (VpIIl)
Back when I was a cocktail party maven, I would employ a variety of postures and positions, but standing was rarely among them.
Posted by: gp Extends His Arms, Retracts His Nipples at January 20, 2022 04:44 PM (qpX6U)
he's preparing for his meeting with Xi, in which they carve up the world and set new boundaries.
Posted by: Change my mind at January 20, 2022 04:39 PM
If Putin invades Ukraine and China simultaneously invades Taiwan, what does the US do? Two front war? Massive trade disruption from China, while Europe freezes from Russia cutting off gas supplies?
Posted by: Bitter Truth at January 20, 2022 04:44 PM (JCZqz)
[Cackles]
You know having words put in my mouth are much better then the other things people have been putting there.
Posted by: Kamala Harris at January 20, 2022 04:44 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 20, 2022 04:38 PM (VWp7G)
Like across the southern border? Realistically, there is more to gain with less risk in other theaters than INCONUS.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, mourner at January 20, 2022 04:44 PM (SH2Zi)
All the Shithole Countries had a true friend in the White House -- Ukraine, Taiwan, Israel, etc.
And none of them stood by President Trump when he needed them.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at January 20, 2022 04:44 PM (3cHMA)
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Oregon Muse at January 20, 2022 04:44 PM (Zz0t1)
Back when I was a cocktail party maven, I would employ a variety of postures and positions, but standing was rarely among them.
Posted by: gp Extends His Arms, Retracts His Nipples at January 20, 2022 04:44 PM (qpX6U)
*blink*
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2022 04:45 PM (dNqv+)
Posted by: Behind the Iron Sausage at January 20, 2022 04:45 PM (vrz2I)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2022 04:44 PM (dNqv+)
How many American lives are you willing to sacrifice? Under this president?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 20, 2022 04:45 PM (Mzdiz)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2022 04:44 PM (dNqv+)
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Michael Anton wrote a sad little essay saying it doesn't matter, because China's military can kick our ass.
His view, not mine.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 20, 2022 04:45 PM (VMY76)
I'm afraid though that US credibility is repeated flushed down the toilet by Democrats every single time when the US is called upon. (see Vietnam 1975, etc.). Any country that enters into a treaty with the US better have it's eyes wide open.
Perhaps that's what Ukraine was trying to buy loyalty from the Dems and Biden, but I guess this only adds to the betrayal. Biden seems ok with Putin taking a bigger bite out of Ukraine. Putin probably doesn't want the whole thing, it would be more than weak and poor Russia could handle anyways. He'll just take a piece at a time whenever a Dem is president (Obama, Biden)
Sorry Ukraine, the horse has left the barn and galloped off a cliff. May God have mercy on you and on us all.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 20, 2022 04:45 PM (fs1hN)
He'd stammer for 5 minutes after yelling for the secret service before stroking out.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 20, 2022 04:45 PM (7F9te)
It is time for us to do what we have been doing. And that time is every day.
No matter where you're going, there you are!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) [/s at January 20, 2022 04:45 PM (pNxlR)
https://youtu.be/LaJFyRWDG5Y
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Oregon Muse at January 20, 2022 04:44 PM (Zz0t1)
That was not Gong Li
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at January 20, 2022 04:46 PM (XvPQV)
Posted by: Tim Riggins at January 20, 2022 04:46 PM (ZZK0E)
https://tinyurl.com/2bvp5zk7
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at January 20, 2022 04:42 PM (Wg1SU)
*sigh*
Robin Sage has been going on for decades. Nothing in this is new. And the military doesn't use real world opponents in their scenarios for practical as well as political reasons.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 20, 2022 04:46 PM (wmDcS)
Posted by: Aetius451AD
Agreed, but no one in this administration would go for it.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 20, 2022 04:46 PM (VWp7G)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2022 04:44 PM (dNqv+)
__
Ok then let Taiwan pay for it. You want our protection? Cool. $100B a year. Same with Japan, S. Korea, and every other country that decided they didn't need a military because Sugar Daddy America would take care of it.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 04:46 PM (OalnH)
Posted by: Well at January 20, 2022 04:46 PM (9zcxd)
Posted by: Tim Riggins at January 20, 2022 04:46 PM (ZZK0E)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 20, 2022 04:38 PM (VpIIl)
.......
I'm guessing the catheter drains directly into the diaper.
Posted by: wth at January 20, 2022 04:46 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at January 20, 2022 04:46 PM (dfRN6)
Posted by: Well at January 20, 2022 04:41 PM
Hillary! was our most successful Secretary of State ever because she racked up so many frequent flier miles!
Posted by: Bitter Truth at January 20, 2022 04:47 PM (JCZqz)
HISSSSSSS
I'M FAT, FETID AND FAMILIAR!!!
YOU WANT ME
YOU NEED ME
Posted by: CHTILLARY at January 20, 2022
***
*Applause*
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at January 20, 2022 04:47 PM (txdEq)
The complaint from a woman with the "stage name" "Pearl".
Posted by: mikethemoose at January 20, 2022 04:47 PM (T/vhV)
Stupid fucks.
Posted by: Sharkman at January 20, 2022 04:47 PM (qIMsq)
That was not Gong Li
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at January 20, 2022 04:46 PM (XvPQV)
*DDG search*
Huh....I stand corrected. One of a couple things, then.
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Oregon Muse at January 20, 2022 04:47 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Change my mind at January 20, 2022 04:39 PM
If Putin invades Ukraine and China simultaneously invades Taiwan, what does the US do? Two front war? Massive trade disruption from China, while Europe freezes from Russia cutting off gas supplies?
==
effectively nothing. They only thing that might delay this is the Chinese Olympics, but they may wait until they can hold our athletes hostage. Putin is getting collateral from Xi for the russian athletes before he sends them. Watch and lern.
Posted by: Hillbilly Strategos at January 20, 2022 04:47 PM (st1eJ)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 20, 2022 04:38 PM (VWp7G)
No one has the capability. The trend over the past fifty years has been small, more professionally trained forces rather than massive armies. If anyone wanted to invade, they'd need years to build up the manpower, as well as logistic capabilities.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at January 20, 2022 04:47 PM (wmDcS)
Posted by: Tim Riggins at January 20, 2022 04:47 PM (ZZK0E)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2022 04:44 PM (dNqv+)
Unlke Ukraine, Taiwan is an advanced country that isn't run by evil pedophiles or total retards. That said, if they didn't get nuclear knowledge from Donald Trump I am out of fucks to give. No one can care more about a country than the people who actually live in it.
Posted by: trev006 at January 20, 2022 04:47 PM (Eqkqm)
And I faced down the Russians too. The White Russians.
Hic.
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at January 20, 2022 04:47 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: Sassy at January 20, 2022 04:47 PM (xSICi)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 20, 2022 04:45 PM (VMY76) "
LOL. Their J 10's would be dropping from the skies like dead flies. Their J 20 is a piece of shit. Wee would be Harpooning every boat that tried to cross the straight. In a total war situation, it wouldn't even be fair.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 20, 2022 04:48 PM (VpIIl)
You know having words put in my mouth are much better then the other things people have been putting there.
Posted by: Kamala Harris
Doesn't matter -- you spit out either one.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) [/s at January 20, 2022 04:48 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 04:48 PM (OalnH)
Posted by: Bitter Truth at January 20, 2022 04:44 PM (JCZqz)
If? I think it is a near certainty at this point. Middle of election cycle, stuck with braindead and a cocksucking dimwit, woke military. The really bad part of it is that I wouldn't put it past the American left to secretly push for it and a half-hearted military engagement if only to seize war powers. Outside invasion worries? Why? We are our own worst enemy.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, mourner at January 20, 2022 04:48 PM (SH2Zi)
Posted by: Tim Riggins at January 20, 2022 04:49 PM (ZZK0E)
Posted by: Kamala Psaki at January 20, 2022 04:49 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 20, 2022 04:45 PM (Mzdiz)
I know the argument Miley. I know the reasons. Doesn't change what I think is right.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2022 04:49 PM (dNqv+)
How many American lives are you willing to sacrifice? Under this president?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 20, 2022 04:45 PM (Mzdiz)
I'd say that if they nuked most of the major West Coast cities it'd be a high price, but I'd be willing to pay it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2022 04:49 PM (trdmm)
The complaint from a woman with the "stage name" "Pearl".
Posted by: mikethemoose at January 20, 2022 04:47 PM (T/vhV)
He gave her a necklace.
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Oregon Muse at January 20, 2022 04:49 PM (Zz0t1)
Notice the Democrats aren't spending a single minute "fighting" to delete Student Loan debt.
Odd, eh?
It's almost as if they want to run on Student Loan Debt in perpetuity.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at January 20, 2022 04:49 PM (3cHMA)
Worthy of defense? Could be.
Defensible? Probably not.
Posted by: gp Extends His Arms, Retracts His Nipples at January 20, 2022 04:49 PM (qpX6U)
Posted by: Insomniac
Just have them check the tire irons and Makarov's at the door and you'll be fine.
Posted by: Capital Eff
And make sure you don't close both eyes after you fall asleep. Just saying.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 20, 2022 04:49 PM (mD/uy)
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at January 20, 2022 04:44 PM (LQjWA)
........
Dibs!
Posted by: wth at January 20, 2022 04:49 PM (v0R5T)
Lt Smith, why are we not firing our missiles?
Sorry Captain, but no way am I talking with that bitch Lisa in the CiC. She cheated with my boyfriend. I know it!
/Chinese missiles hit
Posted by: Scene from a future warzone at January 20, 2022 04:49 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: bang_a_gong at January 20, 2022 04:50 PM (g71+Y)
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at January 20, 2022 04:49 PM (3cHMA)
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I know right?
Posted by: Republicans who will never ban abortion but will run on it forever at January 20, 2022 04:50 PM (OalnH)
Ever think of that, wise guys?
Posted by: Rachel Maddow at January 20, 2022 04:50 PM (FJYfm)
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2022 04:44 PM (dNqv+)
How many American lives are you willing to sacrifice? Under this president?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at January 20, 2022 04:45 PM (Mzdiz)
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We don't operate in a vacuum. The Pacific is a powder keg, and Japan says they'll probably go to war to protect Taiwan. That will pull in the Aussies, and many other countries. India is already practically fighting China, and Vietnam is too. The Philippines tries to lay low but they'd quickly get invaded I'm sure, because of their value as a staging area.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 20, 2022 04:50 PM (VMY76)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 20, 2022 04:50 PM (hvxWS)
Posted by: Muldoon at January 20, 2022 04:50 PM (m45I2)
Posted by: Match Checksout at January 20, 2022 04:50 PM (dYe5S)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 04:48 PM (OalnH)"
Me neither.
Posted by: gp Extends His Arms, Retracts His Nipples at January 20, 2022 04:51 PM (qpX6U)
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She must be on drugs. I bet Putin almost wet himself laughing.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2022 04:51 PM (YqDXo)
Unfair question. I don't know anyone who wants to go to war for any reason. But sometimes we have to.
The question is does the takeover of Ukraine or Taiwan but our enemies warrant our getting involved?
Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2022 04:51 PM (ZLI7S)
Period.
The only formal thing going on between the US and the Ukraine are the interest payments to "The Big Guy."
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 20, 2022 04:51 PM (BFigT)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 20, 2022 04:51 PM (VMY76)
@Doc_0
Biden's handlers do not understand the psychological impact of dispatching his flacks to insist the senile old man didn't say any of the things he clearly said in his dumpster fire press conference. They're on the verge of turning low poll numbers into national panic."
Heading for single digits, baby! Joey Blutarsky. 0 point 0.
Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at January 20, 2022 04:51 PM (uvufr)
OK. I decided to try and find out whether Biden's press conference really was the longest in presidential history. I'm having trouble finding a database that has this information. The closest I'm getting is this
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/
The American Presidency Project at UCSB. They don't time them, but they have a lot of useful info. Where is the MSM getting this stat from?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 20, 2022 04:51 PM (mdjgu)
"This virus is MUCH more contagious than polio and is about as risky statistically."
Posted by: Moron Robbie - N95 masks are single use at January 20, 2022 04:30 PM (5q92e)
It's not just wrong, it's obscenely, disgustingly, insultingly, offensively wrong. Fuck these people.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at January 20, 2022 04:51 PM (II3Gr)
I have no particular love for Ukraine. But to let Russia invade or use UC means to take the country over is a mistake we would regret. There has to be a price for such action because it eventually leads to a conflict we will care about. But don't take my word for it, look at history. The Russians will keep pushing until there is a price to pay.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 20, 2022 04:51 PM (VpIIl)
Odd, eh?
It's almost as if they want to run on Student Loan Debt in perpetuity.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at January 20, 2022 04:49 PM (3cHMA)
Solid strategy. It's what we do on immigration. And abortion. And health care. And...
Posted by: GOPe at January 20, 2022 04:51 PM (FJYfm)
The fuck? Most Americans have never met someone with Polio, so they can say stoopid things like this.
Polio is awful. I met a guy in Canada who had Polio. Not only was one leg several inches shorter than the other, he was a broken man. ... Polio is absolutely NOTHING like Covid.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 20, 2022 04:38 PM (AhhdW)
My mentor in utility commercial support had polio. He was tiny, and had to use two canes to walk. He was always upbeat, even if he was in pain.
The entire department was going to Brunch and celebrate one Sunday, and his leg just spontaneously fractured. He didn't fall before hand, it just freaking broke. That is polio, and Thank God for Drs Salk and Sabin. He was a good man.
Posted by: rd at January 20, 2022 04:51 PM (Z32m1)
"Yeah, I'm all out of F's to give about Ukraine. "
The only 'out' I'll give them is handing over the dirt on Joe and his crime family on a silver platter. Barring that, they can eat shit.
Joe and family shook them down for millions with '1 weird trick' you have to see to believe. Let's see it.
Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 20, 2022 04:52 PM (dQvv7)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 20, 2022 04:50 PM (VMY76)
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Even if all that happens....SO FUCKING WHAT?
Let them fight each other. No more World's policeman.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 04:52 PM (OalnH)
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Why?
Name one thing the world's dictators are not getting for free from Biden right now?
Posted by: Well at January 20, 2022 04:52 PM (9zcxd)
Posted by: Dogbert at January 20, 2022 04:52 PM (Z9HSN)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 20, 2022 04:52 PM (hvxWS)
...and obamacare
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at January 20, 2022 04:52 PM (3cHMA)
Australia will send in their Shrieking Karen Brigade, guaranteed to instill terror in all who have to hear them.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2022 04:52 PM (trdmm)
==
Hey its not like we defunded NPR or repealed O care. What is it you think we do here?
Posted by: GOPe - uniparty at January 20, 2022 04:52 PM (st1eJ)
Posted by: Slapweasel at January 20, 2022 04:52 PM (Ckg4U)
effectively nothing. They only thing that might delay this is the Chinese Olympics, but they may wait until they can hold our athletes hostage. Putin is getting collateral from Xi for the russian athletes before he sends them. Watch and lern.
Posted by: Hillbilly Strategos at January 20, 2022 04:47 PM
If this happens, and Biden blinks and does nothing, I want to see some old-timey style political cartoons with a Russian Bear and Chinese panda spit-roasting and Uncle Sam with Biden's face.
Posted by: Bitter Truth at January 20, 2022 04:52 PM (JCZqz)
https://youtu.be/LaJFyRWDG5Y
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Oregon Muse at January 20, 2022 04:44 PM (Zz0t1)
That's pretty cool. The hook with the baritone sax is infectious.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at January 20, 2022 04:53 PM (II3Gr)
I'm more worried about the 3,000 despots I have one mile away, then the bear riding one 3,000 miles away (well, ok 5,000 miles away)
Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2022 04:53 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at January 20, 2022 04:51 PM (II3Gr)
Agreed.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2022 04:53 PM (dNqv+)
Posted by: banana Dream at January 20, 2022 04:53 PM (SXSmD)
Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2022 04:51 PM (ZLI7S)
__
Not just no. But hell no.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 04:53 PM (OalnH)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 20, 2022 04:53 PM (hvxWS)
Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 20, 2022 04:53 PM (jTmQV)
That's pretty cool. The hook with the baritone sax is infectious.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at January 20, 2022 04:53 PM (II3Gr)
Right?
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Oregon Muse at January 20, 2022 04:53 PM (Zz0t1)
We were just talking with the man the other day, it feels like...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at January 20, 2022 04:21 PM (XvPQV)
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I asked last night, but didn't see a response. Does anyone have any information on Brother Northernlurker? Last comment I could find was from Dec. 11, 2021 in the Pet Thread. But it was a rudimentary search, so maybe he's been here more recently?
Posted by: Turn Two at January 20, 2022 04:53 PM (CoAjq)
Posted by: Slapweasel at January 20, 2022 04:52 PM (Ckg4U)
A: good to see you, man
B: you're scaring me, if that's so
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at January 20, 2022 04:53 PM (XvPQV)
I'll add S Korea to the list of shithole "democracies" I give no shits about.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at January 20, 2022 04:53 PM (3cHMA)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 20, 2022 04:48 PM (VpIIl)
Unfair all right- to America. Entering a war of industrial production with the people our CEOs of Merit outsourced industrial production to would be iffy in the best of times. Considering how much influence the CCP has over most of Congress, never mind the millions of Chinese throughout the country, you would need one fuck of a plan to win.
Donald Trump might have pulled it off, but no one else.
Posted by: trev006 at January 20, 2022 04:53 PM (Eqkqm)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 20, 2022 04:54 PM (VpIIl)
Another question is: what are the prospects for 'success' in either venture? I'd say they are low.
Posted by: gp Extends His Arms, Retracts His Nipples at January 20, 2022 04:54 PM (qpX6U)
THis unfucking believable.
FUCK JOE BIDEN AND THE WAR HE IS BRINGING
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at January 20, 2022 04:54 PM (iDcra)
Posted by: Slapweasel at January 20, 2022 04:52 PM (Ckg4U)
China already stole the elections there and have a Red friendly regime in place.
They're fucked.
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Oregon Muse at January 20, 2022 04:54 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Dogbert at January 20, 2022 04:52 PM (Z9HSN)
This as well. I saw something where Intel or one of the chip manufacturers was opening a new plant in... New Mexico? Arizona? I DID NOT see anything about rare earth mines though.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2022 04:54 PM (dNqv+)
The Democrats were put into power by China
The media is controlled by China
Everything we buy is made by China
We're broke
We don't have the stomach for the loss of life
We don't give a shit about freedom vs communism
The only war games we are practicing are against Americans
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 20, 2022 04:54 PM (7F9te)
Let them fight each other. No more World's policeman.
Then you have to accept the consequences of China taking over the South China Sea, one of the most strategic bodies of water for both military and commercial needs.
Something like 40% of all world trade transits the waterway. If you think we have supply chain issue now quadruple them if China plays master blaster there.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2022 04:55 PM (ZLI7S)
Odd, eh?
It's almost as if they want to run on Student Loan Debt in perpetuity.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at January 20, 2022 04:49 PM (3cHMA)
Solid strategy. It's what we do on immigration. And abortion. And health care. And...
Posted by: GOPe at January 20, 2022 04:51 PM (FJYfm)
Damn that Donald Trump for abolishing the Alternative Minimum Tax! That grift was worth millions of dollars in donations every year!
Posted by: Grifting GOPe Congress Critters. at January 20, 2022 04:55 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 20, 2022 04:55 PM (hvxWS)
Does anyone have any information on Brother Northernlurker?
Posted by: Turn Two
He's around, and fine.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at January 20, 2022 04:55 PM (3cHMA)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 20, 2022 04:53 PM (hvxWS)
If we invade, we could get our people back. But maybe then they'd just go somewhere else.
Posted by: Mexico at January 20, 2022 04:55 PM (FJYfm)
Let them fight each other. No more World's policeman.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 04:52 PM (OalnH)
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Exactly right!!!
Posted by: Neville Chamberlain at January 20, 2022 04:55 PM (VMY76)
"It is time for us to do what we have been doing. And that time is every day."
"We are the ones we've been waiting for."
"The future - that's where we're going."
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 20, 2022 04:55 PM (YqDXo)
Posted by: Grifting GOPe Congress Critters. at January 20, 2022 04:55 PM (Z32m1)
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I'm still here!!
- Death tax
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 04:55 PM (OalnH)
Fists clenched
When the walls fell
Biden....STRONK!!!
Probably more significant sign of strength than Washington crossing the Delaware.
And now, Joe Biden and other feats of strength....coming soon to a podium...somewhere...
I mean, it's almost like Festivus.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at January 20, 2022 04:55 PM (vcOmj)
-- Dr. Buckaroo Bonzai
Posted by: banana Dream at January 20, 2022 04:53 PM (SXSmD)
Act like wherever you are, that's the place to be.
- Damone
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Oregon Muse at January 20, 2022 04:55 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at January 20, 2022 04:56 PM (3cHMA)
Posted by: Night of the Iron Sausage at January 20, 2022 04:56 PM (vrz2I)
==
Bruce Jenner is a woman.
And killing an innocent baby in the womb isnt murder.
They are waging a war on truth. Total war.
Posted by: It is of a piece at January 20, 2022 04:56 PM (wkoKN)
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 20, 2022 04:23 PM (NqZ29)
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at January 20, 2022 04:56 PM (M4Vn/)
Posted by: trev006 at January 20, 2022 04:53 PM (Eqkqm) "
We still have the same military capabilities that Trump helped restore. We also have re-positioned our forces to prepare for such a scenario. What CiNC will do with that capability is the only question mark. Our military is still capable of defeating most threats we face.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 20, 2022 04:56 PM (VpIIl)
Let them fight each other. No more World's policeman.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 04:52 PM (OalnH)
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Exactly right!!!
Posted by: Neville Chamberlain at January 20, 2022 04:55 PM (VMY76)
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Yawn.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 04:56 PM (OalnH)
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She must be on drugs. I bet Putin almost wet himself laughing.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay GuevarA
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NOW THAT'S A LIE. VLAD DID ACTUALLY LAUGH SO HARD SOME PEE CAME OUT.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at January 20, 2022 04:56 PM (iDcra)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 20, 2022 04:55 PM (hvxWS)
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We are proud to announce the opening of the "Tel Aviv Nuclear Test Area"
Posted by: Iranian Military at January 20, 2022 04:57 PM (VMY76)
"On December 5, 1994 the leaders of Ukraine, Russia, Britain and the United States signed a memorandum to provide Ukraine with security assurances in connection with its accession to the NPT as a non-nuclear weapon state. The four parties signed the memorandum, containing a preamble and six paragraphs. The memorandum reads as follows:"
Plenty of wiggle room in the text that follows. But there is an agreement.
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 20, 2022 04:57 PM (fs1hN)
So, let Europe deal with Ukraine/Russia, and we fuck up China if they try anything.
Smart money should be pulling out of China already
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at January 20, 2022 04:57 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: Night of the Iron Sausage at January 20, 2022 04:56 PM (vrz2I)
and since none of the whiny students were voting repub anyways, no one will care.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2022 04:57 PM (trdmm)
Also notice how hard the Democrats are Not "fighting" to raise the Min Wage.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at January 20, 2022 04:56 PM (3cHMA)
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TBF they kinda don't have to. States are doing it on their own. Even red states have been raising it. And with the labor market the way it is, the market has raised the minimum wage to $15 an hour in a lot of places.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 04:57 PM (OalnH)
Day 7 of the war with China: Protests in all major US cities as Biden considers banning "peaceful" travel of Chinese "civilians" to the United States
Day 15 of the war with China: Cases of a strange new respiratory disease in many major American cities. Biden calls any ties to the Chinese peace ambassadors that have just come over are racist.
Day 72 of the war with China: Several rightwing legislators arrested for voting against new Chinese born Secretary of Defense, Zhang Youxia, based on his ethnic origin.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2022 04:58 PM (ESjRY)
this is starting out to be a very shitty year.Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at January 20, 2022 04:58 PM (nxdel)
Posted by: wth at January 20, 2022 04:58 PM (v0R5T)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 04:56 PM (OalnH)
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Tired of the lessons of recent history? Lets talk doggies and sandwiches!
Posted by: Jonah Goldbrick at January 20, 2022 04:58 PM (VMY76)
Let them fight each other. No more World's policeman.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 04:52 PM (OalnH)
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Exactly right!!!
Posted by: Neville Chamberlain
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Its not like England was prepared to fight and Chamberlain held them back. That thing was going to happen no matter what Chamberlain did.
Posted by: timing is also a consideration at January 20, 2022 04:59 PM (0ofk6)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 20, 2022 04:57 PM (fs1hN)
Treaty ratified by the Senate? uh... no.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 20, 2022 04:59 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 20, 2022 04:59 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 20, 2022 04:51 PM (VpIIl)
Russia were happy with a Russian-friendly Leader, until we had him removed, for what are likely Soros' and Friends' financial motivations. We poked the bear, and we should not be shocked at what transpired. If Russia was poking around in Mexico, I would fully support military intervention in Mexico to protect American interests.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, mourner at January 20, 2022 04:59 PM (SH2Zi)
==
Bruce Jenner is a woman.
And killing an innocent baby in the womb isnt murder.
They are waging a war on truth. Total war.
Posted by: It is of a piece at January 20, 2022 04:56 PM (wkoKN)
*tee hee*
Posted by: Stan at January 20, 2022 04:59 PM (llON8)
Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2022 04:58 PM (ESjRY)
Sooo, you've seen the script to The Tomorrow War II, then.
Posted by: Chris Pratt at January 20, 2022 04:59 PM (QYPq3)
So the media will be trying to equate the 2 diseases so that everyone with kids will think it is the same danger.
Posted by: Sassy at January 20, 2022 04:59 PM (xSICi)
882 As an ex-Air Force TAC Command Chess champion, I would like to offer my services to provide a weekly Chess thread.
I always enjoyed Oregon Muse's offerings and as he was a neighbor had a many times delayed plan to sit and play a game.
Which I mention as a warning to all; do not put off those opportunities that could be your favored memories.
Posted by: TSgt Ciz at January 20, 2022 01:57 PM (TsIaP)
Unfortunately, I've had two very, very, very close friends pass away last year, and I put off opportunities to see them because I thought they would always be around.
This is a reminder that this just isn't so.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 20, 2022 05:00 PM (mdjgu)
Posted by: Tom Servo "
It will give the kids something else to peacefully protest about.
Posted by: Night of the Green Sausage at January 20, 2022 05:00 PM (vrz2I)
Fists clenched
When the walls fell
Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at January 20, 2022 04:55 PM
Biden, facing Corn Pop, chain in hand.
High, like Hunter on a bender.
Hiding in Vermont bunker when the walls fell.
Posted by: Darmok at January 20, 2022 05:00 PM (JCZqz)
Is this b/c behind the scenes, they know Biden won't help?
Posted by: Nova local at January 20, 2022 05:00 PM (exHjb)
I wonder if there's anything Kamala can do for 1 hour and 52 minutes without a break?
Posted by: Hands at January 20, 2022 04:32 PM (786Ro)
Without a breath....
Posted by: Willie Brown at January 20, 2022 05:00 PM (n+4am)
So, let Europe deal with Ukraine/Russia, and we fuck up China if they try anything.
Smart money should be pulling out of China already
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Well the Biden administration is preparing to send them a rather large tranche of hostages. . .
Posted by: Olympics!!! at January 20, 2022 05:00 PM (0ofk6)
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at January 20, 2022 04:31 PM (II3Gr)
Me too- insert name of any country
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 20, 2022 05:00 PM (NqZ29)
Brother Northernlurker has been around within the week I am fairly sure, weekend maybe.
Brought up Duke has been missing but hopefully will show up any day.
Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2022 05:00 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 04:56 PM (OalnH)
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Tired of the lessons of recent history? Lets talk doggies and sandwiches!
Posted by: Jonah Goldbrick at January 20, 2022 04:58 PM (VMY76)
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No, I'm tired of bullshit like we have to protect the Philippines and Vietnam, because REASONS. Too many of you watch too many Tom Clancy movies and still think it's 1983.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 05:01 PM (OalnH)
Does the US still have or ever had Prize laws on the books about the Navy and CG sharing of Prize Money from captured belligerent ships?
If so, some Seamen First Class in LA and Long Beach are going to millionaires if war happens.
Posted by: rd at January 20, 2022 05:01 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: Country Jose and the fish tacos at January 20, 2022 05:01 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2022 05:02 PM (2JoB8)
Is this b/c behind the scenes, they know Biden won't help?
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the Olympics is a hostage exchange. Its an op. It will be the reason why the US does nothing over Taiwan.
Just like they did with ambassador stevens but it got screwed up. These idiots always do the same shit.
Posted by: Olympics!!! at January 20, 2022 05:02 PM (QCZTg)
Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2022 05:02 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 20, 2022 04:57 PM (fs1hN)
Treaty ratified by the Senate? uh... no.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 20, 2022 04:59 PM (oHd/0)
Yup. NATO went through the Senate. This did not.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 20, 2022 05:02 PM (mdjgu)
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 20, 2022 05:00 PM (NqZ29)
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Afghanistan
Posted by: you asked for it at January 20, 2022 05:02 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2022 05:02 PM (RZSup)
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, mourner at January 20, 2022 04:59 PM (SH2Zi) "
You think that all of the Russian offensive actions stopped during Trump? lol.
Posted by: Marcus T at January 20, 2022 05:03 PM (VpIIl)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 20, 2022 04:56 PM (VpIIl)
Ze Germans thought the same, and with considerably more justification. America can win if everyone else is using wargame rules to let the US military take full advantage of all their gadgets with a relatively united population. The Chinese have gone out of their way to minimize the potential of everything from GPS on down. If they don't buckle under the first military response- and they won't- then they can start by pushing the US forces in Korea into the sea.
Look, there is nothing wrong with supporting the home team, but the mongoloid leaders in Washington didn't see the Russian buildup in Belarus. Tech is good, but it can't replace brains.
Posted by: trev006 at January 20, 2022 05:03 PM (Eqkqm)
Brother Northernlurker has been around within the week I am fairly sure, weekend maybe.
Brought up Duke has been missing but hopefully will show up any day.
Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2022 05:00 PM (2JoB8
I'm right here.
Just sniffles and sneezing
Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at January 20, 2022 05:03 PM (awmcV)
Day 72 of the war with China: Several rightwing legislators arrested for voting against new Chinese born Secretary of Defense, Zhang Youxia, based on his ethnic origin.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2022 04:58 PM
Lol. Like we'd last 72 days under this administration.
Posted by: Anon Military Moron at January 20, 2022 05:03 PM (JCZqz)
It strikes at the historical Russian insularity and fear of invasion.
It says to Putin remember how Stalin collapsed in the first days of the German invasion.
It says to Putin You are no Stalin.
Posted by: TC at January 20, 2022 05:03 PM (yu5nA)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
Biden at the podium, it's a Festivus miracle.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at January 20, 2022 05:03 PM (vcOmj)
And that presupposes these assholes don't start a nuclear shooting war.
I f**king hate these people.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 20, 2022 05:03 PM (1EFK+)
The little voice in my head is telling me all this bullshit is setting the table for an invasion of...
Syria.
These fuckfaces have a hard-on for Syria, for some reason.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at January 20, 2022 05:04 PM (3cHMA)
Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2022 05:02 PM (kOpft)
Is it easier to make your own chip factories or conduct a war?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 20, 2022 05:04 PM (7F9te)
Posted by: raimondo at January 20, 2022 05:04 PM (d5caZ)
So the joke is that Zhang Youxia is one of the leaders of the Chinese military.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2022 05:04 PM (ESjRY)
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If we need a WH press to correct or contradict what the Sponge-Brain says in a speech, then who is actually making policy? Is it unelected flunkies in the WH and environs?
Posted by: Ciampino at January 20, 2022 05:04 PM (qfLjt)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 20, 2022 04:56 PM (VpIIl)
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If the threat is non compliance with tranny dictates, then I agree. If the threat is, you know, war and stuff.....doubtful.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 05:04 PM (OalnH)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2022 05:04 PM (RZSup)
And that presupposes these assholes don't start a nuclear shooting war.
I f**king hate these people.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 20, 2022 05:03 PM (1EFK+)
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To be fair, Trump did say pussy.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Searching with John Ford at January 20, 2022 05:04 PM (LvTSG)
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I feel more like I do today then I did yesterday.
Posted by: 60's doper at January 20, 2022 05:04 PM (pbStR)
Many still think it's 1945. That was the last war we actually won outright. We are no longer the nation we were back then.
Posted by: gp Extends His Arms, Retracts His Nipples at January 20, 2022 05:04 PM (qpX6U)
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 20, 2022 05:00 PM (NqZ29)
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Afghanistan
Posted by: you asked for it at January 20, 2022 05:02 PM (Z32m1)
What do you have against young and nubile Afghani women? ( okay now starting to sound creepy instead of snarky)
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 20, 2022 05:05 PM (NqZ29)
no,
*this seems odly specific*
Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at January 20, 2022 05:05 PM (IJES/)
Still looking for Duke though
Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2022 05:05 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 05:01 PM (OalnH)
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You talk a lot. Are actual treaties then to be ignored? If Australia or Japan calls on us, do we ignore them?
No one wants war, least of all me. But China might, and their vote counts more than mine.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 20, 2022 05:05 PM (VMY76)
Posted by: motionview (prep train organize) at January 20, 2022 05:06 PM (aKOI+)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 20, 2022 05:04 PM (7F9te)
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Bingo. I can sort of buy the argument that we need to defend Taiwan cuz freedom or whatever. But to spend trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives to have cheap computer chips? Are you fucking kidding me?
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 05:06 PM (OalnH)
Posted by: 18-1
I don't understand the opposition. He checked "no" to the question "Do you hold any allegiance to your country of birth" on the application form.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 20, 2022 05:06 PM (hvxWS)
Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2022 05:02 PM (kOpft)
Is it easier to make your own chip factories or conduct a war?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 20, 2022 05:04 PM (7F9te)
It might be easier to conduct a war. If you break ground on a chip factory today - this very day - you won't get the first chip out of it for at least three years. That's, of course, assuming that you have all the chip-making machinery readily available right now, which you might not.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 20, 2022 05:06 PM (mdjgu)
Posted by: Marcus T at January 20, 2022 05:03 PM (VpIIl)
Slayed that strawman with aplomb. Give yourself a pat on the back.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, mourner at January 20, 2022 05:06 PM (SH2Zi)
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Again. I give no fucks. No more world's policeman. Period.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 05:07 PM (OalnH)
But Ukraine's army is nowhere near +7M in size ... so not sure why I should care about them when an easy 6 million or so dudes are just standing literally right there in the path of the Russians and not doing anything about it.
Posted by: Match Checksout at January 20, 2022 05:07 PM (dYe5S)
Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2022 05:07 PM (2JoB8)
What if General Milley phones China and warns them of our attack? Did he not say he would do that?
Posted by: gp Extends His Arms, Retracts His Nipples at January 20, 2022 05:07 PM (qpX6U)
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at January 20, 2022 04:31 PM (II3Gr)
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Hero.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2022 05:07 PM (llXky)
Posted by: wth at January 20, 2022 05:07 PM (v0R5T)
And that presupposes these assholes don't start a nuclear shooting war.
I f**king hate these people.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 20, 2022 05:03 PM (1EFK+)
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To be fair, Trump did say pussy.
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O and the mean tweets!! Don't forget the mean tweets!
Posted by: Karen, searching for the box wine at January 20, 2022 05:07 PM (JjYMO)
Posted by: bonhomme at January 20, 2022 05:07 PM (AhhdW)
Posted by: DaveA at January 20, 2022 05:07 PM (FhXTo)
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What the heck does that mean?
Do you have a link for that?
Posted by: Ciampino at January 20, 2022 05:08 PM (qfLjt)
Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2022 05:02 PM (kOpft)
Is it easier to make your own chip factories or conduct a war?
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 20, 2022 05:04 PM (7F9te)
Wars are profitable.
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Oregon Muse at January 20, 2022 05:08 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 20, 2022 05:08 PM (hvxWS)
{five minutes later}
countries that are now totally dependent on Russia. But it's going to be hard. It's going to be very hard.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at January 20, 2022 04:29 PM (DU+/6)
Due to our random sanctions on Russia over the last 10-20 years Russia has developed internal means to build almost everything, and the relation with China means he has at least 1 trade partner, and India is talking to them as well.
Even if that hadn't been true, Europe's need for Russian gas is far worse for them than not being able to sell it. And the notion that gas exports are half the Russian GDP is absurd.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 20, 2022 05:08 PM (eoQWY)
NBC just announced they aren't sending announcers to the Winter Olympics.
It might be watchable!!!
Posted by: nurse ratched at January 20, 2022 05:08 PM (W2Pud)
Now, in only one fucking year, the world is a mess. Like elections, elections steals have consequences.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 20, 2022 05:08 PM (VMY76)
Posted by: gp Extends His Arms, Retracts His Nipples at January 20, 2022 05:04 PM (qpX6U)
That stirring victory in Grenada is already forgotten? And we overwhelmed the opposition in Waco.
Posted by: Mexico at January 20, 2022 05:08 PM (FJYfm)
1970 and 2022 are as far apart as 1970 and 1918.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 20, 2022 05:07 PM (AhhdW)
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This does not make me feel old for I do not remember 1970. It was practically a full generation before my time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Searching with John Ford at January 20, 2022 05:08 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke"
I don't think anybody should,
Posted by: Night of the Green Hotel at January 20, 2022 05:09 PM (vrz2I)
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 20, 2022 04:59 PM (oHd/0)
Valid point, I'm assuming not ratified. I'm pointing out the US executive branch makes agreements, then break them. Whoops, you trusted us.
Yes, Ukraine should have pushed for ratification before signing. Our executive branch needs to follow the Constitution and submit for ratification.
Again, I'm not arguing for sending troops to protect Ukraine. I blame Biden for being such a weak leader and for the smug idiots who voted for a "functioning adult" plus all the people printing extra ballots at 3am.
Crappy situation, I feel sorry for the Ukranians,
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 20, 2022 05:09 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2022 05:09 PM (RZSup)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 20, 2022 05:09 PM (hvxWS)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 05:09 PM (OalnH)
You want young, nubile, Ukrainian refugee women.
You'll settle for some nice woman who can cook and doesn't look like a babushka.
You'll get a gender fluid Afghani dancing boy with a heroin habit, anger issues, and a penchant for always carrying a knife.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2022 05:09 PM (ESjRY)
I saw Gen Milley's testimony before Congress. I'm not confident you're right.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 20, 2022 05:09 PM (AhhdW)
Posted by: Jonah Goldbrick at January 20, 2022 04:58 PM (VMY76)
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right? can't we discuss whether pierogis are a sandwich?
Posted by: Tim Riggins at January 20, 2022 05:09 PM (ZZK0E)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Searching with John Ford at January 20, 2022 05:08 PM (LvTSG)
Me neither. I wasn't born yet.
Posted by: Jordan61 at January 20, 2022 05:09 PM (Ez6QX)
Do you have a link for that?
Posted by: Ciampino at January 20, 2022 05:08 PM (qfLjt)
rainman's programming seems to have gone a bit wonky lately. He slides between almost reasonable and Mary Cloggenstein. I suspect skullduggery.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2022 05:10 PM (dNqv+)
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I feel more like I do today then I did yesterday.
........
The hurrier I go the behinder I get.
Posted by: wth at January 20, 2022 05:10 PM (v0R5T)
i wanna see whether or not the turks violate the montreau convention by allowing the baltic fleet into the black sea.
Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at January 20, 2022 05:10 PM (IJES/)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2022 05:10 PM (RZSup)
Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 20, 2022 05:10 PM (HmZuC)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke"
I agree, but it looks like they will be so they should be quarantined for 10 days when they return
Posted by: It's me donna at January 20, 2022 05:10 PM (TdaKq)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 05:10 PM (OalnH)
China was just telling people yesterday not to forget where they are lest they think free speech will be a thing during the olympics.
Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2022 05:10 PM (kOpft)
But then again, there are similarities.
In Europe, a lot of NATO and EU countries want to make nice with Ivan (like Germany). Other countries, not so much (like Poland).
The alliance is split on the issue. I don't know what or how we would deploy troops there, besides the ones already in Poland. It could be a bad meatgrinder for us to get involved on the ground.
Taiwan has it's detractors, but Japan has invested a lot of money INTO Taiwan to make stuff for Japan. Japan is also alarmed at what China is doing strategically (overall) in Asia. Add Australia, India, S. Korea (which is also divided on the issue and is pretty close physically to China).
If Taiwan falls to the PRC, a lot of dominoes in the Pacific will start falling.
If Russia bites off part of Ukraine or installs a puppet government there, I honestly don't think much really changes.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at January 20, 2022 05:10 PM (vcOmj)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2022 05:09 PM (RZSup)
Oh wow, I missed that.
Posted by: Jordan61 at January 20, 2022 05:10 PM (Ez6QX)
Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2022 05:10 PM (ESjRY)
That's a non-sequitur. It assumes that Taiwan's chip fabs would survive a war. Are we talking WAR WAR, or a minor incursion?
Posted by: gp Extends His Arms, Retracts His Nipples at January 20, 2022 05:10 PM (qpX6U)
What if General Milley phones China and warns them of our attack? Did he not say he would do that?
Posted by: gp Extends His Arms, Retracts His Nipples at January 20, 2022 05:07 PM (qpX6U)
This theoretical world in which our military is allowed to conduct total war is a pipe dream. It's a useless hypothetical.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, mourner at January 20, 2022 05:10 PM (SH2Zi)
Posted by: Braenyard at January 20, 2022 05:10 PM (JVMtX)
Posted by: Tim Riggins at January 20, 2022 05:10 PM (ZZK0E)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2022 05:04 PM (RZSup)
I don't think anyone should go to China, period. If they actually do have the Olympics, every athlete there will come home with some new virus that will superspread it's ass everywhere and will further decimate the world economy. They will take over without firing a shot.
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Oregon Muse at January 20, 2022 05:10 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 20, 2022 04:59 PM (fs1hN)
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We should be sending them thousands of Javelin and other Anti-Tank missiles! Maybe SAMS too!
Oh, That's Right! F. Joe Biden reinstated Obama's Ban on Lethal Military Aid to Ukraine!
I guess NATO will have to send troops instead! Who has battle ready, deployable troops? The US!!! We will fly US Troops 6,000 miles to fight in Ukraine, because the Germans, French, and all the other Western European sad sacks cannot move a battalion 200 miles outside their borders, or even 200 miles inside their borders.
Posted by: rd at January 20, 2022 05:11 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: GWB at January 20, 2022 05:11 PM (A2G/3)
Posted by: Citizen Freeman at January 20, 2022 05:11 PM (FPuSC)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 05:09 PM (OalnH)
Realpolitik uber alles, comrade.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2022 05:11 PM (dNqv+)
It took 21 years and $10 trillion to lose to goat fuckers.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 20, 2022 05:11 PM (7F9te)
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I was a one-year-old in 1970...
Not that I remember that.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at January 20, 2022 05:11 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: Tim Riggins at January 20, 2022 05:11 PM (ZZK0E)
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I have had moods last longer than you have been alive.
Posted by: Its cute tho, such a fresh face!! let me smell your hair at January 20, 2022 05:11 PM (8DHGa)
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Again, not a smart take. Those chip factories are in many cases Taiwanese owned and managed. They use Taiwanese technology. They would close in short order if Taiwan decided to walk away.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 20, 2022 05:11 PM (VMY76)
It was the lesson I thought we took away from WW2. Large conflicts will inevitably arise unless someone (the US) is so overwhelmingly powerful that no one dares to start anything. It mostly worked. As Team America said, we have the responsibility because we have the power.
Posted by: Anon Military Moron at January 20, 2022 05:12 PM (JCZqz)
Still looking for Duke though
Posted by: Skip
He commented in an earlier thread today.
Posted by: JT at January 20, 2022 05:12 PM (arJlL)
Oh no, I'm so sorry to hear that. Didn't he just move to MO though? Was he just renting?
Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at January 20, 2022 05:12 PM (nxdel)
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Oregon Muse at January 20, 2022 05:10 PM (Zz0t1)
Sponge gets it.
Posted by: Jordan61 at January 20, 2022 05:12 PM (Ez6QX)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 20, 2022 05:12 PM (hvxWS)
Posted by: Jordan61 at January 20, 2022 05:09 PM (Ez6QX)
You're just a baby!
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, mourner at January 20, 2022 05:12 PM (SH2Zi)
So, I must have missed something in the coverage of all this, but has Putin actually given anyone a reason to believe he intends to invade Ukraine? Even a bullshitty excuse?
I just wonder if there's anything to any of this aside from DC's need for a narrative.
Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2022 04:34 PM (kOpft)
Not that I have heard, this came out from western sources only. The negotiations with the US and EU over Ukraine's situation are that Ukraine should complete the Minsk agreement and have bilateral discussions with the breakaway countries to settle borders. Ukraine seems to want Russia pulled into that, which Russia doesn't want but they do want it settled.
Westerners seem to be dicking around, but not giving Ukraine EU membership or Nato membership that they want.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 20, 2022 05:12 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2022 05:12 PM (trdmm)
LOL, Gordon Chang has been talking about a Chinese EMP attack for five years now. We're completely unprepared for such a thing, because no one in government takes it seriously.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 20, 2022 05:12 PM (bkUtD)
Posted by: Darrell Harris
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You couldn't get all the approvals and permits in three years.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at January 20, 2022 05:12 PM (iDcra)
Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2022 05:09 PM (ESjRY)
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No, he'll get a Slavic Madeline Albright.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2022 05:12 PM (llXky)
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at January 20, 2022 05:12 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: SFGoth at January 20, 2022 05:13 PM (KAi1n)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2022 05:09 PM (RZSup)
Oh wow, I missed that.
Posted by: Jordan61 at January 20, 2022 05:10 PM (Ez6QX)
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So, she didn't want to leave IL.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 20, 2022 05:13 PM (JVMtX)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Searching with John Ford at January 20, 2022 05:08 PM (LvTSG)
Me neither. I wasn't born yet.
Posted by: Jordan61
*sigh*
you're both standing on my lawn.
Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at January 20, 2022 05:13 PM (IJES/)
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, mourner at January 20, 2022 05:12 PM (SH2Zi)
You're the same age as me, silly.
Posted by: Jordan61 at January 20, 2022 05:13 PM (Ez6QX)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 20, 2022 05:12 PM (hvxWS)
What are they gonna do? Hit them with their purses ?
Posted by: It's me donna at January 20, 2022 05:13 PM (TdaKq)
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2022 05:13 PM (trdmm)
It might be easier to conduct a war. If you break ground on a chip factory today - this very day - you won't get the first chip out of it for at least three years. That's, of course, assuming that you have all the chip-making machinery readily available right now, which you might not.
Posted by: Darrell Harris
How long were we in Afghanistan?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 20, 2022 05:13 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at January 20, 2022 05:13 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: Anon Military Moron at January 20, 2022 05:12 PM (JCZqz)
We don't have that power anymore. We can only kill people at random now.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 20, 2022 05:13 PM (eoQWY)
One year ago, we started to write an American story of hope, not fear.
Of unity, not division.
Of light, not darkness.
Biden last month:
We are looking at a winter of severe illness and death for the unvaccinated -- for themselves, their families and the hospitals they'll soon overwhelm.
Posted by: bonhomme at January 20, 2022 05:13 PM (AhhdW)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 05:09 PM (OalnH)
While war is a useless strategy, Chinese chips are still years and years behind Korea and Taiwan's tech. The chips that business really needs aren't made in China.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 20, 2022 05:14 PM (mdjgu)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 20, 2022 05:14 PM (hvxWS)
Posted by: Tim Riggins at January 20, 2022 05:14 PM (ZZK0E)
Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2022 05:14 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 20, 2022 05:14 PM (NqZ29)
Not that I remember that.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at January 20, 2022 05:11 PM (RU4sa)
I believe the proper response is, "I was in junior high, dickhead."
Posted by: Agent Johnson at January 20, 2022 05:14 PM (FJYfm)
You'd also have cyberattack, and ASAT attack. If it turns into a real war, there will be nukes.
Posted by: gp Extends His Arms, Retracts His Nipples at January 20, 2022 05:14 PM (qpX6U)
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Oregon Muse at January 20, 2022 05:14 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, mourner at January 20, 2022 05:12 PM (SH2Zi)
You're the same age as me, silly.
Posted by: Jordan61 at January 20, 2022 05:13 PM (Ez6QX)
Then we are both young, spring chickens.
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, mourner at January 20, 2022 05:15 PM (SH2Zi)
One year ago, we started to write an American story of hope, not fear.
Of unity, not division.
Of light, not darkness
Good lord.....He sure screwed that up...
Posted by: It's me donna at January 20, 2022 05:15 PM (TdaKq)
Posted by: Dogbert at January 20, 2022 05:15 PM (Z9HSN)
STOP IT!! Stop thinking that! Whatever you're thinking, he didn't say that and it's not true!
Posted by: Jenn Hacki at January 20, 2022 05:15 PM (XHhHI)
I just wonder if there's anything to any of this aside from DC's need for a narrative.
Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2022 04:34 PM (kOpft)
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Putin has gathered forces on the Ukrainian border. You hear people say "he has massed thousands of troops," but don't think this is Operation Bagration or anything like that. Russia today would be hard-pressed to man a continuous front from Leningrad to the Black Sea. Their army is a lot smaller than people think.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2022 05:15 PM (llXky)
you're both standing on my lawn.
Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at January 20, 2022 05:13 PM (IJES/)
heh, I feel ya. I remember wondering why the number "69" was a big deal; when the year changed to 69 all the older guys with motorcycles were going out on school playing fields and doing burnouts on the grass, making big "69's" on everything.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2022 05:15 PM (trdmm)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 20, 2022 05:15 PM (VMY76)
Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2022 05:10 PM (ESjRY)
Ask the Canucks. They (and we?) participated in some multi country Military Athletic Games in the Wuhan China area in the Fall of 2019. Many athletes complained they picked up some weird, debilitating respiratory infection over there. Don't worry, all the militaries investigated the issue by shutting down all inquiries and silencing everyone. Nothing to see there!
Posted by: rd at January 20, 2022 05:15 PM (Z32m1)
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Junior high wasn't until the early 80s.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at January 20, 2022 05:16 PM (RU4sa)
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No, it is not.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at January 20, 2022 05:13 PM (RU4sa)
Who can beat us?
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 20, 2022 05:16 PM (NqZ29)
Posted by: Darrell Harris
How long were we in Afghanistan?
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But but but, look at how much money we made on that war? All the new territory and resources and wonderful new friends and allies!!
Posted by: Oops Oopsies at January 20, 2022 05:16 PM (sXXre)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 20, 2022 05:12 PM (bkUtD)
I have heard a lot of back and forth on whether an emp would be as damaging as we theorize. publius would probably be better to speak on it, but from what I have seen, even incidental shielding would be ok against an emp. NOT an expert.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2022 05:16 PM (dNqv+)
Posted by: Darrell Harris
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You couldn't get all the approvals and permits in three years.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at January 20, 2022 05:12 PM (iDcra)
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If you're talking about TWSC they're opening shop in TX.
Permits will be fast tracked if not already done.
Since they've bought the land assume they have the permits.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 20, 2022 05:16 PM (JVMtX)
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, mourner at January 20, 2022 05:10 PM (SH2Zi)
If they did, the first move would be to sack most of the useless assholes we have, like we did in the 1930s before WWII. Few survived to screw up in actual combat.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 20, 2022 05:16 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 20, 2022 05:16 PM (Y5qcH)
>>It took 21 years and $10 trillion to lose to goat fuckers.
Well the US taxpayer lost, I on the other hand got a string of pol-la-ponies, a mansion and yacht out of the deal.
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Typical MIC Consultant
Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 20, 2022 05:16 PM (rvWXA)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger
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With 13 dead and $85 billion in equipment cherry on top.
Lesco Brandon
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at January 20, 2022 05:16 PM (iDcra)
Posted by: It's me donna at January 20, 2022 05:16 PM (TdaKq)
Biden is better than Hitler.
Posted by: Well at January 20, 2022 05:16 PM (T8QNX)
Oh no, China nuked San Fran, Seattle, and LA. That's terrible. Any chance they can reach NYC?
Posted by: Obligatory at January 20, 2022 05:17 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 20, 2022 05:16 PM (NqZ29)
ourselves. we aren't serious about anything.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 20, 2022 05:17 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: rd at January 20, 2022 05:11 PM
Such outrageous slander! Of course we can move our troops as needed! However, if the Russians invade on a Friday, we may have to wait until Thesday at the earliest to start movement, assuming the Russians keep providing natural gas to generate electricity for our public transportation.
We can't actually fight more than 20 hours per month, either, or we start paying overtime. And no more than 30 hours of work a week, max, with 5 days of leave earned every month.
Posted by: European NATO allies at January 20, 2022 05:17 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2022 05:12 PM (trdmm)
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This!
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 05:17 PM (OalnH)
Posted by: its the people behind you soldier at January 20, 2022 05:17 PM (8DHGa)
Posted by: Chuck Martel at January 20, 2022 05:17 PM (fs1hN)
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 20, 2022 05:14 PM (NqZ29)
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This isn't about just us. Other countries have a stake as well. Japan is stepping up because Taiwan is in their friggin' front yard.
India is also looking at ways to undercut China.
Smart diplomacy would be leveraging this.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2022 05:17 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Dogbert at January 20, 2022 05:17 PM (Z9HSN)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2022 05:15 PM (llXky)
the biggest thing they lost when they lost control of all of the 'Stans is the cannon fodder conscripts they used to stock their armies with.
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2022 05:17 PM (trdmm)
Absolutely. We MUST reshore strategic industries! Until we show any real determination to do THAT, we haven't the determination to WIN a WAR.
Posted by: gp Extends His Arms, Retracts His Nipples at January 20, 2022 05:17 PM (qpX6U)
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, mourner at January 20, 2022 05:12 PM (SH2Zi)
You're the same age as me, silly.
Posted by: Jordan61 at January 20, 2022 05:13 PM (Ez6QX)
I'm listening......
Posted by: Joey Prepubescent Nipple Tweaker at January 20, 2022 05:18 PM (Zz0t1)
I'm not kidding. Have you given any thought to how much of everyday life depends on computer chips? The enslavement of Taiwan is not going to be without repercussions.
Besides, we should be looking for opportunities to bloody ChiCom noses. The last two years have left a lot of scores to settle.
Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2022 05:18 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: Sec. of *hic* (former) at January 20, 2022 05:18 PM (QzkSJ)
They announced a few days ago they were bringing troops from their Far East to participate in the drills scheduled for next month.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at January 20, 2022 05:18 PM (HmZuC)
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it's not 1991. I'm ready to start chanting "No Blood for Iphones..." or whatever would be catchy.
Posted by: Tim Riggins at January 20, 2022 05:18 PM (ZZK0E)
We are a year away from having a full up division capable of fighting in a mid-intensity near-peer conflict. 20 years of losing to goat herders and knocking down doors does not prepare you for full scale combined arms operations.
Consider that the current crop of Battalion Commanders and Brigade Commander know nothing of combined arms operations. Nothing. All they know is low intensity conflict in an Afghanistan environment.
Can they train up? Sure! But it will take a year and a shit load of money. It would also help if most of the 4 stars were retired.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 20, 2022 05:18 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 20, 2022 05:18 PM (NqZ29)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
*cough!*
Posted by: FDR at January 20, 2022 05:18 PM (DMQdU)
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Oregon Muse at January 20, 2022 05:14 PM (Zz0t1)
You're so easy to please.
Posted by: Jordan61 at January 20, 2022 05:18 PM (Ez6QX)
Posted by: Obligatory at January 20, 2022 05:17 PM (ESjRY)
You think we waste nuclear weapons on those cities? Hahahaha, they already gone.
Posted by: China at January 20, 2022 05:18 PM (QYPq3)
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, mourner at January 20, 2022 05:10 PM (SH2Zi)
If they did, the first move would be to sack most of the useless assholes we have, like we did in the 1930s before WWII. Few survived to screw up in actual combat.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 20, 2022 05:16 PM (eoQWY)
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We have the material we don't have the leadership.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 20, 2022 05:19 PM (JVMtX)
Posted by: Turn Two at January 20, 2022 04:53 PM (CoAjq)
Seems I've seem here since the first of the year.
Posted by: Golfman at January 20, 2022 05:19 PM (hOMhY)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 05:19 PM (OalnH)
Your brawny hero Joe leaned forward and rested his arms (meaning some of his upper body weight) on the podium for some of the time yesterday. He was not standing tall for two hours continuously.
We've seen Joe stand at/lean on a podium for two hours how many times in the past three years? How many times for one hour? One data point of nearly two hours doesn't mean much in a period of three years. And how do know he wasn't totally exhausted and unable to do much of anything for several hours or more after his stand/lean performance?
Posted by: Gref at January 20, 2022 05:19 PM (AMIL/)
Oh no, China nuked San Fran, Seattle, and LA. That's terrible. Any chance they can reach NYC?
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the dragon's tail swept a third of the stars from the sky
dragon = china
stars = US states on our flag
Posted by: Get Your Nightmare Fuel!!! Come and Get IT!! at January 20, 2022 05:19 PM (FOSUO)
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at January 20, 2022 04:31 PM (II3Gr)
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Hero.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2022 05:07 PM (llXky)
No, no, no. I'm just trying to do my part to alleviate suffering in this world.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at January 20, 2022 05:19 PM (II3Gr)
You're so easy to please.
Posted by: Jordan61 at January 20, 2022 05:18 PM (Ez6QX)
You have no idea.......
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Oregon Muse at January 20, 2022 05:19 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: JuJuBee at January 20, 2022 05:19 PM (mNhhD)
If we decide that we no longer want to be the world's sole super power and just become a larger European country then we need to accept everything that comes with it and that means a greatly reduced way of life. We many conclude that's what we want but we should be honest about what it means.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2022 05:19 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 20, 2022 05:16 PM (NqZ29)
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Iran
Lebanon
Somalia
Afghanistan
Am I leaving anyone else out?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2022 05:19 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2022 05:15 PM (llXky)
But Putin's Nuclear Arsenal is almost as big as it used to be. If Russia and NATO (read US) start blundering around killing each other, some one might decide to bluff with nukes. and get their bluff called.
Posted by: rd at January 20, 2022 05:19 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: Tom Servo
But..but...they PROMISED!!!
Posted by: Poland, 1939/2022 at January 20, 2022 05:20 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2022 05:15 PM (llXky)
he did that because the Ukranians moved into disputed lands last spring, and the USN and UK were going to have a fun time with a crisis spying on the Russians. However, they Russians got there before the boats did, and Turkey refused to let them in.
So the Ukrainian army spent the last year sitting in the mud.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 20, 2022 05:20 PM (eoQWY)
So...obviously they take their security seriously.
Russia weighs in at 850K by comparison.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2022 05:20 PM (ESjRY)
I just want to go on record to state that I think the USA should not waste one life to protect Ukraine from Russia. It is a corrupt cesspool, weak, and interfered in our affairs to support the Dems.
However, I WILL be playing S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2 approximately 1 year after its release on pc to give the developers time to fix the bugs.
Posted by: Sapwolf at January 20, 2022 05:20 PM (etPhZ)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 05:20 PM (OalnH)
Posted by: China at January 20, 2022 05:18 PM (QYPq3)
Well... you can nuke west Texas. Might get a prairie dog or two...
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2022 05:20 PM (dNqv+)
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at January 20, 2022 05:19 PM (II3Gr)
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Your sacrifice is admirable. Remember to hydrate. Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2022 05:20 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2022 05:17 PM (llXky)
Agree 100%
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 20, 2022 05:21 PM (NqZ29)
So, get ready for a bunch of Russians and even more Chinese living here.
Posted by: Tim Riggins at January 20, 2022 05:21 PM (ZZK0E)
Iran
Lebanon
Somalia
Afghanistan
Am I leaving anyone else out?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2022 05:19 PM (llXky)
Madagascar.
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Oregon Muse at January 20, 2022 05:21 PM (Zz0t1)
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But its not just iPhones. Its cars, appliances, televisions, radios, home security, business security, airplanes buses, heavy equipment....
Posted by: LASue at January 20, 2022 05:21 PM (Ed8Zd)
If only one nuclear weapon detonated in a US city, the whole country would shit its pants. Store shelves and gas pumps across the nation would be bare within one day. All services and utilities would begin to seize up. Roving bands of murderers would own the streets (even more than we have now.)
Posted by: gp Extends His Arms, Retracts His Nipples at January 20, 2022 05:21 PM (qpX6U)
Who can beat us?
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 20, 2022 05:16 PM
This thread has addressed both points accurately. If fully unleashed (minus nukes), the US military can absolutely destroy any other military on the planet.
The odds of our political leaders approving such action, minus a Pearl Harbor-type event, is near 0.
Posted by: Anon Military Moron at January 20, 2022 05:21 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2022 05:19 PM (llXky)
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Mexican cartels probably.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 05:21 PM (OalnH)
Posted by: Some Spherical Guatemalan on the dole at January 20, 2022 05:22 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2022 04:20 PM (ESjRY)
Well I can see what inflation has done to increase the prices of all our inventory. Maybe if we had lower gas prices like a few years ago then prices wouldn't be so high. But hey, I'm just a dumbass chick working at Food Lion.
Posted by: Food Lion checkout chick at January 20, 2022 05:22 PM (RAodA)
But think about what he has. He has eight time zones, a burning tundra that will not freeze again naturally,
Somehow I think the Siberian tundra isn't going to stop freezing anytime soon
Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2022 05:22 PM (2JoB8)
Pick one. Or don't.
IMO we'd lose in either case. Bigly.
As far as the Ukraine is concerned half the population identify as Russian. OK... y'all can figure that one out.
As far as Taiwan is concerned their government is corrupt like ours and infested with Chinese operatives... like ours.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 20, 2022 05:22 PM (BFigT)
Posted by: Insomniac
FUN FACT
The westernmost part of Ukraine was once part of Hungary. There are still hundreds of thousands of Hungarian speakers there.
Posted by: Miklosian Translation and Matchmaking Services S.r.o.o. at January 20, 2022 05:22 PM (QzkSJ)
Consider that the current crop of Battalion Commanders and Brigade Commander know nothing of combined arms operations. Nothing. All they know is low intensity conflict in an Afghanistan environment.
Can they train up? Sure! But it will take a year and a shit load of money. It would also help if most of the 4 stars were retired.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 20, 2022 05:18 PM (axyOa)
^^^^^^^^^^^
THIS!!!!!!!
Posted by: rd at January 20, 2022 05:22 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: rd at January 20, 2022 05:19 PM (Z32m1)
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Second look at Twilight: 2000?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2022 05:22 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2022 05:22 PM (6FeV1)
Posted by: Tom Servo at January 20, 2022 05:12 PM (trdmm)
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Eastern Europe is worth saving, western europe 50-50.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at January 20, 2022 05:22 PM (iDcra)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2022 05:17 PM (llXky)
Our diplomacy was never smart even when the State wasn't full of idiots.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 20, 2022 05:23 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: azjaeger at January 20, 2022 05:23 PM (CDJid)
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I truly believe that our current PTB would love nothing more than for that to happen, so they can have absolute power via martial law.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at January 20, 2022 05:23 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant
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You've been talking to Trump, haven't you?
Posted by: Braenyard at January 20, 2022 05:23 PM (JVMtX)
LOL, Gordon Chang has been talking about a Chinese EMP attack for five years now. We're completely unprepared for such a thing, because no one in government takes it seriously.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 20, 2022 05:12 P
I've read that to secure our electric grid from such an attack would cost every household a one time charge of 25 dollars. I'm willing to secure my household and a bunch of my neighbors at that price. I'd suggest our leaders don't care but I think the truth is that they don't give a flying fvck.
Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 20, 2022 05:23 PM (dQvv7)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 20, 2022 05:23 PM (Q9lwr)
A Legendary Campaign
It's Over 9000!
Sulfuras, Hand of Ragnaros
and many others!
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 20, 2022 05:23 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2022 05:23 PM (6FeV1)
If PRC wants to destroy Taiwan chip fabs, how can we possibly stop them?
Posted by: gp Extends His Arms, Retracts His Nipples at January 20, 2022 05:23 PM (qpX6U)
So...obviously they take their security seriously.
Russia weighs in at 850K by comparison.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2022 05:20 PM
I believe Ukraine may also be the poorest nation, per capita, in Europe, which may have something to do with this.
Posted by: Anon Military Moron at January 20, 2022 05:24 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 05:20 PM (OalnH)
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see 456
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 20, 2022 05:24 PM (VMY76)
Posted by: SOMEASSHOLESTOLEMYPEN at January 20, 2022 05:24 PM (ytSiK)
Posted by: Tim Riggins at January 20, 2022 05:18 PM (ZZK0E)
It's not just about iPhones any more
Chain saws now need to be connected to a laptop in order to be tuned.
Now do cars, washing machines, refrigerators..
No longer a need for EMPs. .
Posted by: Golfman at January 20, 2022 05:24 PM (hOMhY)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2022 05:09 PM (RZSup)
Oh wow, I missed that.
Posted by: Jordan61 at January 20, 2022 05:10 PM (Ez6QX)
Shit, totally missed that too. Damn that sucks.
Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at January 20, 2022 05:24 PM (II3Gr)
She'll need to find out by reading it in the newpaper, like Barcky.
Posted by: Flyover at January 20, 2022 05:24 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: Dogbert
It's not just computer microchips. It's a lot of things. Our position in the Pacific will be significantly weaker IF China takes Taiwan. This has been a point of discussion for about 70 years now, since the CCP took over and made China the PRC. There have been a TON of skirmishes between Taiwan and China over the years, each has shot down the other's airplanes, etc.
The single biggest thing we could do would be to put some fast attack subs in the Taiwan straits and sink whatever China sends over to Taiwan, should the fighting start.
I contend that China wants to take Taiwan intact, and not wreck the place. At some point, Taiwan is expected to give in. After all, people in leadership in China not only read Sun Tzu, they memorize passages from his book.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at January 20, 2022 05:25 PM (vcOmj)
Posted by: f'd at January 20, 2022 05:25 PM (vrz2I)
Lebanon
Somalia
Afghanistan
Am I leaving anyone else out?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2022 05:19 PM (llXky)
Deciding to not engage is not getting beat. That's politics.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 20, 2022 05:25 PM (NqZ29)
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at January 20, 2022 05:23 PM (RU4sa)
This. But we might stop hearing about trannies for 5 minutes. *makes weighing motion*
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2022 05:25 PM (dNqv+)
And he can achieve this reasonably cheaply. His army has been training heavily in Hybrid warfare...they can win it.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 20, 2022 05:25 PM (axyOa)
As for siding with the democrats, I suggest you remember this line from Animal House: "You fucked up. You trusted us (democrats)"
Posted by: Chuck C at January 20, 2022 05:25 PM (EughT)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at January 20, 2022 05:12 PM (bkUtD)
I've been reading the One Second After trilogy from time to time to calculate my odds of survival if this were to happen.
Since I'm near a (smaller) city and about a thousand miles away from anybody such as family I can count on, and the land here isn't the best for growing stuff...my odds are pretty damn slim, even if I survive the riots and marauders that'll spawn about 2 weeks into such an attack.
Posted by: Thrawn at January 20, 2022 05:25 PM (Rl7KJ)
Posted by: Braenyard at January 20, 2022 05:25 PM (JVMtX)
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Ukraine's population is 44M. So .14% of their population is military. By comparison ours is something like 0.5%. So remind me again why our ration is 3X as high as theirs? Why are we spending a fortune on our military to protect them while they spend 1/3 as much (relatively speaking)? And why is it our problem?
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 05:25 PM (OalnH)
Posted by: Hunter B. at January 20, 2022 05:25 PM (CTJwJ)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 20, 2022 05:22 PM (BFigT)
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Not as corrupt as the PRC, though. Taiwan's military is legit and they seem to be well aware of the fact almost their entire political class will be lined up and shot if they lose.
Beijing will be taking a poke at a hornet's nest and China has ZERO operational experience of amphibious operations.
It would be like if the US decided to make it's first amphibious assault of WW II against Omaha Beach.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2022 05:26 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Diogenes
Attack Prius'sssss?
Posted by: Bruce at January 20, 2022 05:26 PM (vd8XM)
Posted by: SFGoth at January 20, 2022 05:26 PM (KAi1n)
Posted by: Flyover at January 20, 2022 05:26 PM (Rbu5d)
Posted by: f'd at January 20, 2022 05:25 PM (vrz2I)
Yeah, Ukraine/Russia is one corrupt bastard government against Russia.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at January 20, 2022 05:26 PM (dNqv+)
Brother Northernlurker has been around within the week I am fairly sure, weekend maybe.
Brought up Duke has been missing but hopefully will show up any day.
Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2022 05:00 PM (2JoB
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I should have said Brother Northernlurker is not to be confused with N.L. Urker.
Posted by: Turn Two at January 20, 2022 05:26 PM (CoAjq)
Georgia, equally poor, but with about 1/10 the population has 37K soldiers - so per capita about 5 times as many soldiers.
I suspect that Ukraine believes paying off Biden was a better choice then building a military and is about to find out the ROI on that one was not good
Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2022 05:26 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 20, 2022 05:24 PM (VMY76)
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LOL. China makes more chips than Taiwan. Like I said your entire premise is ridiculous.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 05:27 PM (OalnH)
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Meanwhile, the leadership in the US reads twitter, the NYT, and the WP.
Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at January 20, 2022 05:27 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: It's me donna at January 20, 2022 05:27 PM (TdaKq)
Posted by: Anon Military Moron at January 20, 2022 05:24 PM (JCZqz)
Ukraine is a billiard table with a swamp on the north side. Even in WWII neither side could defend it for long - each retired pretty much to the far side as fast as they could to more defendable terrain.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 20, 2022 05:27 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: f'd at January 20, 2022 05:28 PM (vrz2I)
Posted by: t-bird at January 20, 2022 05:28 PM (BvZkh)
Posted by: 7man at January 20, 2022 05:28 PM (qwO6y)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 05:20 PM (OalnH)
I think the Taiwanese have threatened to destroy them if they are invaded. it doesn't take a lot to destroy their ability to make those delicate little super clean chips. Hell, a firefight inside the building would probably fuck up production for months? Add a few fires and intelligent sabotage? Complete Rebuilding might be faster.
Posted by: rd at January 20, 2022 05:28 PM (Z32m1)
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 20, 2022 05:25 PM (NqZ29)
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Iran: Overran embassy, took hostages, Operation Eagle Claw was a disaster.
Lebanon: Moved in troops with unloaded rifles, barracks blown up, withdrawal.
Somalia: Humanitarian mission creep. Black Hawk Down, retreat.
Afghanistan: Nuff said.
Yeah, we're on a real winning streak.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2022 05:28 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2022 05:26 PM (llXky)
I wouldn't put it past Taiwan to nuke any invasion fleet. They have little to lose.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 20, 2022 05:28 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: It's me donna"
Is there a Flesh colored one?
Posted by: f'd at January 20, 2022 05:29 PM (vrz2I)
Posted by: t-bird at January 20, 2022 05:28 PM (BvZkh)
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Remember a couple of years ago we were thiiiiiiiis close to WW3 with Iran? And that lasted for about 48 hours until the next shiny object came along to focus on.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 05:29 PM (OalnH)
Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2022 05:29 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: Oldcat at January 20, 2022 05:20 PM (eoQWY)
Ukraine army... 500,000. Been trained by the West for a couple years now, but US training is now based on Counter insurgency.
Russians in area... 100,000 combat troops, most drafted for only 1 year of service.
This sure ain't Desert Storm material.
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 20, 2022 05:29 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: It's me donna at January 20, 2022 05:27 PM (TdaKq)
They'll be peanut M and M's, but packaged as regular M and M's, because they "identify" as not having nuts.
Peanut allergy folks who might die are just transphobic bigots.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 20, 2022 05:29 PM (6FeV1)
Posted by: f'd at January 20, 2022 05:29 PM (vrz2I)
Posted by: Braenyard at January 20, 2022 05:29 PM (JVMtX)
I suspect a secondary goal of any Chinese war is to get rid of some of the excess young men so...getting a lot people killed while winning is likely not a problem for them.
Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2022 05:29 PM (ESjRY)
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 20, 2022 05:29 PM (4odx6)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 20, 2022 05:09 PM (RZSup)
Yes, I saw that. I had no idea what to say in response so I said nothing. I liked the way he presented it though; sort of matter of fact. I hope he knows we're thinking about him.
Posted by: LASue at January 20, 2022 05:30 PM (Ed8Zd)
Posted by: rd at January 20, 2022 05:28 PM (Z32m1)
The fact that the chipmakers who make them would be dead in the fighting, fleeing, or in labor camps might throw a crimp in the process as well.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 20, 2022 05:30 PM (eoQWY)
A Chinese back door.
I have to tell you, I still can't walk straight after I got one of those.
Oh the things I do for my country.
Posted by: Hunter Biden at January 20, 2022 05:30 PM (ESjRY)
If it's the chip fabs we're worried about, yes, they are probably full of PRC agents and potential saboteurs. Chip fabs are fragile.
If the Bay of Pigs succeeded, maybe I'd believe the USA could do something useful to save Taiwan.
Posted by: gp Extends His Arms, Retracts His Nipples at January 20, 2022 05:30 PM (qpX6U)
Lebanon: Moved in troops with unloaded rifles, barracks blown up, withdrawal.
Somalia: Humanitarian mission creep. Black Hawk Down, retreat.
Afghanistan: Nuff said.
Yeah, we're on a real winning streak.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2022 05:28 PM (llXky)
Desert Storm, STOP right now, you're winning too much!
Posted by: Romeo13 at January 20, 2022 05:30 PM (oHd/0)
Posted by: rd at January 20, 2022 05:28 PM (Z32m1)
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The whole country is fortified. They have underground airfields.
A few weeks ago Taiwan said they had enough missiles to close *all* of the mainland's ports with enough left over to target power plants.
These people do not sound like they are kidding.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2022 05:31 PM (llXky)
Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2022 05:29 PM (ESjRY)
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agree completely
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 20, 2022 05:31 PM (lMmuq)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 05:20 PM
The Taiwanese might be the ones sabotaging the factories.
Posted by: Chuck C at January 20, 2022 05:31 PM (EughT)
Taiwan might, as they've been talking about it as a way to deny the ChiComs any value in the conquest.
They would be right to do so.
Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2022 05:31 PM (kOpft)
Consider that the current crop of Battalion Commanders and Brigade Commander know nothing of combined arms operations. Nothing. All they know is low intensity conflict in an Afghanistan environment.
Can they train up? Sure! But it will take a year and a shit load of money. It would also help if most of the 4 stars were retired.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 20, 2022 05:18 PM (axyOa)
^^^^^^^^^^^
THIS!!!!!!!
Posted by: rd at January 20, 2022 05:22 PM
Uh...this is nonsense. You know what the Army Advanced Operations course is? A school all Army officers (Major-Lieutenant Colonel) take if they want a shot at promotion to Colonel. It a serious of exercises where the students take various staff jobs in different phases of an operation to defend Ukraine from a fictional nation's conventional invasion using Russian equipment and doctrine, starting with mobilization in the US, movement to theater, defending an attack, and finally counter attacking.
Posted by: Anon Military Moron at January 20, 2022 05:31 PM (JCZqz)
Posted by: Sum Ting Wong at January 20, 2022 05:31 PM (vrz2I)
Once Kazakhstan arrested Hunter's former business partner for helping lead the attempted government overthrow it ceased to be important news.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 20, 2022 05:32 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Diogenes
Attack Prius'sssss?
Posted by: Bruce at January 20, 2022 05:26 PM (vd8XM)
Snort!
Somewhere I saw a video of a Prius with a (I think) 20mm cannon on it. The recoil would send the car flying backwards. Hilarious.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 20, 2022 05:32 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2022 05:32 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: t-bird
Yeah, it is still a big deal. The Russians blame the US for the chaos going on there, and they are a paranoid lot, after all.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at January 20, 2022 05:32 PM (vcOmj)
A few weeks ago Taiwan said they had enough missiles to close *all* of the mainland's ports with enough left over to target power plants.
These people do not sound like they are kidding.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2022 05:31 PM (llXky)
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Then why do they need us?
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 05:32 PM (OalnH)
Again. Those were not military results. Those are political results.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 20, 2022 05:32 PM (NqZ29)
But if I am wrong and he does, the world has a big problem.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 20, 2022 05:32 PM (lMmuq)
I think Bulgaria is worse off but yeah.
And if you think every phone China makes (all of them) isn't built with a backdoor they can tap into, I got a bridge to sell you
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 20, 2022 05:32 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: SFGoth at January 20, 2022 05:33 PM (KAi1n)
Posted by: 18-1 at January 20, 2022 05:29 PM (ESjRY)
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They don't have 'excess' young men, they have a shortage of women.
Their birth rate has collapsed. They still recruit by conscription and are worried that 15 percent of otherwise healthy males have fapped themselves into uselessness.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2022 05:33 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Thrawn at January 20, 2022 05:33 PM (Rl7KJ)
Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder, saboteur, mourner at January 20, 2022 05:34 PM (SH2Zi)
They would be right to do so.
Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2022 05:31 PM (kOpft)
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Say that does happen. Tawiwan produces 80% of the world's chips. So there will be a shortage, short term. But China produces 25% and I'm pretty sure they could ramp up production pretty quickly to meet the demand.
Even so, a chip shortage for a few months is not enough of a reason to go to war with China. Sorry. I can wait a few months for my new iphone 15 or whatever number we're at right now.
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 05:34 PM (OalnH)
Posted by: Anon Military Moron at January 20, 2022 05:31 PM (JCZqz)
Yeah, well I remember in the 1970s the "Reforger" plan was that the US Army would just land at Frankfurt airport, about 30 miles from the front line if the USSR invaded. You can imagine what the Russians could have done to a bunch of Jumbo Jets full of troops.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 20, 2022 05:35 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 05:35 PM (OalnH)
Posted by: Joe Biteum at January 20, 2022 05:35 PM (vrz2I)
But he was a Democrat (Bill Clinton); so the Democrats are sure that doesn't count.
Yet again (Obama and now Biden).
Lesson:
Never trust a Democrat, they're certain oaths and treaties are of no value.
I already knew that; watching Reagan and GHW Bush make "deals" with them.
But it's nice to give big examples to everyone, I guess.
Posted by: ertdfg at January 20, 2022 05:35 PM (I388C)
The funny thing is, I remember when all these selfsame people used to have fun along with everyone else, pointing and laughing at Brandon when he was VP.
And now, when he's *SOMEHOW* dumber than ever before, they all have to talk about how He Is An Inspiration To Us All.
I seriously think when you're in the media there's a day when you wake up and your dick is just gone.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 20, 2022 05:35 PM (4odx6)
These people do not sound like they are kidding.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at
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They sound like adults.
Posted by: Braenyard at January 20, 2022 05:35 PM (JVMtX)
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 20, 2022 05:32 PM (NqZ29)
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Really? The crashed helos in Iran weren't military? The dead Marines weren't military?
Do explain this strange distinction you're making.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2022 05:35 PM (llXky)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at January 20, 2022 05:33 PM (llXky)
Kids aren't getting married because that means twice as many parents to take care of in old age.
Posted by: Oldcat at January 20, 2022 05:36 PM (eoQWY)
Posted by: pookysgirl, piano mom at January 20, 2022 05:36 PM (XKZwp)
Posted by: Romeo13
I think certain people in our government and out saw how effective the US Army, Air Force and Marines were in Desert Storm, and have been working assiduously ever since to hobble the armed forces.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at January 20, 2022 05:36 PM (vcOmj)
Posted by: Anon Military Moron at January 20, 2022 05:31 PM (JCZqz)
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I understand that. I used to be a guest lecturer at the Army CGSC, and an OC for BCTP.
My point is no one had done it...in real time...on the ground. The NTC used to do this but converted to a full time LIC training program. It will take a year to reset the NTC OPFOR, and then run Battalions and Brigade through there to remember how to fight as a combined arms team.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 20, 2022 05:36 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Commissar of Plenty and Lysenko Solutions for front sticks at January 20, 2022 05:36 PM (Qv0Mi)
Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 20, 2022 05:38 PM (BFigT)
Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 20, 2022 05:27 PM (OalnH)
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China is the physical location of Taiwanese chip plants. As a broad generalization the Chinese have zero ability to run those plants or maintain them. What is ridiculous is your semi-hysterical pro-China rants. You need to understand the difference between plant location and management capacity. Its basic.
But again, the larger point is unhinged posts, like yours, only lead to bigger problems. Trump managed the Pacific incredibly well, I thought, better than any recent president, and his policy was the exact opposite in every respect of what you advocate here.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 20, 2022 05:40 PM (lMmuq)
We shouldn't buy anything produced in China.
Posted by: Methos at January 20, 2022 05:43 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 20, 2022 05:43 PM (lMmuq)
My point is no one had done it...in real time...on the ground. The NTC used to do this but converted to a full time LIC training program. It will take a year to reset the NTC OPFOR, and then run Battalions and Brigade through there to remember how to fight as a combined arms team.
Posted by: Diogenes
Too true, and I am by no means knowledgeable about this. There was a guy I knew once who was a non-com out at NTC, and that was basically what he said.
A lot of the lower level enlisted will have no training for this at all. Some of the older NCO's and officers may remember what to do. I mean, they're not senile and forgetful.
But training has always been the edge for the US military. Since Reagan was President, training has been a by-word for being prepared.
The Russian army is full of 1-2 year conscripts. They might look good against Ukraine.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at January 20, 2022 05:43 PM (vcOmj)
But he was a Democrat (Bill Clinton); so the Democrats are sure that doesn't count.
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Is there a treaty? I thought not, but my recollection on the subject may be poor.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 20, 2022 05:46 PM (lMmuq)
Posted by: Skip at January 20, 2022 05:46 PM (2JoB8)
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at January 20, 2022 05:55 PM (2cGsn)
But he was a Democrat (Bill Clinton); so the Democrats are sure that doesn't count.
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Is there a treaty? I thought not, but my recollection on the subject may be poor.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 20, 2022 05:46 PM (lMmuq)
Not a treaty, not ratified by the senate, and doesn't obligate aid. Russia was one of the states signing the Budapest memorandum so it wasn't specifically against them either.
At most it calls for consultation in the event of Ukraine's borders being violated, and to make a request for aid to the UN security council if a nuclear threat is made against them (how about them Russian and Chinese vetoes).
Ukraine considers it a treaty, since to admit otherwise would mean they got cajoled out of their nukes, but obviously since we never ratified it as a treaty in the Senate it cannot be a binding treaty with us.
In practice it's another lesson for countries to not trust us diplomatically and to never enter a NPT if they aren't already allied with a nuclear power.
Posted by: Sjg at January 20, 2022 06:11 PM (gDSJf)
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They may make more but of which types and for what uses?
Also how is the quality and reliability?
It reminds me of the pronouncements that more women are graduating college than men. But ..... what degrees are they coming out with in comparison to the men? Women Studies, Black Studies, Sociology, Underwater Basket-weaving?
Where are all the women graduating in STEM? Also a great number of women STEM grads are in Biological Sciences, not easy but the softest STEM one can find.
Posted by: Ciampino at January 20, 2022 06:47 PM (qfLjt)
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