Devin Nunes vs. Big Tech

While driving to the city Thursday to buy a new cell phone for DH, I happened to hear part of the first radio interview of Devin Nunes since he left Congress earlier this month to head up the Trump Media & Technology Group. The first project of this new company will be a social media platform, to compete with the Big Tech platforms that cancel, suspend or hide people for their political views. We've all seen this happen.

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For a limited time, you can hear the entire Nunes interview on the Ray Appleton Podcast for January 13, hour 2. It's 40 minutes long, with listener input. (If the podcast dates don't show for you, try a different browser).

I also discovered that the day before, Appleton had spoken with Victor Davis Hanson about Nunes and his switch from Congress to the Trump organization. They also speculated about whether Trump would run for president again. Trump will be holding a rally in Arizona this afternoon. Maybe we'll get some clues then.

The Appleton podcast segment with VDH runs about 12 minutes, with a few more minutes in which VDH and Appleton discuss California issues. You can find the VDH interview at the same link as the Devin Nunes interview above. January 12, hour 2.

VDH pointed out that Nunes was tenacious in standing up to the left in Congress. He and Appleton had a hard time coming up with names of others in Congress who were similarly tenacious in standing up to the left. Can you think of any? They also discussed how life for a California conservative in Congress could be difficult.

Starting a new social media company in today's climate also sounds to me like a venture fraught with potential pitfalls. In his interview, Nunes seemed to recognize Big Tech as a foe every bit as formidable as the ones he faced in Congress, perhaps even more formidable. He also views the legislative process in Washington as having fallen into disarray.

Nunes seems determined to leave politics behind, even wiping Adam Schiff from his memory banks. He has a new challenge.

In the interview, he mentioned a book he wrote. This was a short Encounter book entitled Countdown to Socialism. It came out in September of 2020, before the election. One came to our house (not in Nunes' district) in the name of our nephew, whom I doubt was registered as a Republican. Maybe one of his friends put him on a list when he was living in Tulare.

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It is very short, and an easy read.

. . . In this explosive Encounter Broadside, Congressman Devin Nunes exposes the nexus between the Democratic Party, the mainstream media, and the social media corporations. These three entities cooperate to blast out the Democrats' message and downplay their extremism while suppressing and censoring conservative points of view. Tens of millions of Americans are only seeing one side of the debate. The information they get from newspapers and social media is not "news"--it's contrived content designed to help one political party and punish its opponents. In the run-up to the most consequential election of our lifetime, read this book to learn how your information is being skewed and regulated to force America onto the path to socialism. . .

This little book may have played a role in Trump's decision to ask Nunes to head up his new company.

Incidentally, a month later, just before the election, the paperback edition of Lee Smith's book The Plot Against the President came out with a new subtitle: The True Story of How Congressman Devin Nunes Uncovered the Biggest Political Scandal in U.S. History

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. . . While popular opinion holds that Russia subverted democratic processes during the 2016 elections, the real damage was done not by Moscow or any other foreign actor. Rather, this was a slow-moving coup engineered by a coterie of the American elite, the "deep state," targeting not only the president, but also the rest of the country. The plot officially began July 31, 2016 with the counterintelligence investigation that the FBI opened to probe Russian infiltration of Donald Trump's presidential campaign. But the bureau never followed any Russians. In fact, it was an operation to sabotage Trump, the candidate, then president-elect, and finally the presidency. The conspirators included political operatives, law enforcement and intelligence officials, and the press. The plot was uncovered by Nunes, chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, and his investigative team. They understood that the target of the operation wasn't just Trump, but rather the institutions that sustain our republic. A country where operatives use the intelligence and security services to protect their privileges by spying on Americans, coordinating with the press, and using extra-constitutional means to undermine an election then undo a presidency is more like the third world than the republic envisioned by the founding fathers. Without Nunes and his team, the plot against the president -- and against the country -- never would have been revealed. . .

VDH emphasized this issue in the interview mentioned above.

In 2010, when he had much less influence in Congress, Devin Nunes wrote another little book, Restoring the Republic.

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Born and raised in the breadbasket of California, thirty-six-year-old Nunes has seen firsthand how the convergence of big government, big business, and the radical Left has wreaked havoc on entire communities, turning the once-thriving farmland of the San Joaquin Valley into a blighted desert reminiscent of the Dust Bowl. Now the same forces are doing their damage on a national level, threatening America's very foundation. But Nunes has a plan to stop them.

I suspect that this would have been an extremely difficult plan to carry out in Washington D.C. Wishing Nunes success in the struggle to interrupt Big Tech's takeover of our lives, in ways big and small. The new social media platform is scheduled to launch in March. They promise no algorithms, and much less intrusiveness.

Incidentally, a little tip for the tech-illiterate like me:

It can be a minor ordeal to transfer your contacts from an old Android phone to a new one if your phone's contacts have not always been synched to your Google account. You may need to look up how to import some contacts on the SIM card (from the old device, now in the new phone) to your Google account before they will show up on the new phone. Amazing. Your phone cannot display the contents of the SIM card inside it without your Google account. Google knows practically everything about you.

Music and communication from a simpler time

Hope you have something nice planned for the weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Serving your mid-day open thread needs

Bonus Meme: Media's attitude during the Russia Collusion "revelations", courtesy of Dr_No. You can probably think of other issues where this fits the media's approach:

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1 sponge!

Posted by: Roy at January 15, 2022 11:16 AM (Ti+Tv)

2 Good morning! I missed all the WWII conversations in the ONT. I am reading a book called "Hell's Angels" not about the motorcycle gang, but about the USAAF 303rd air group in Britain 19942-1945.
There were lots of casualties, as we all know. One story of note is about a waist gunner on a B17 whose plane was cut in half by a German fighter. He was ejected, with a parachute, but since he was unconscious, he didn't deploy it. He fell from 20,000 feet, like a sack of potatoes, into a German barn. He survived, received good medical treatment (28 broken bones) was taken as a POW, later liberated. Amazing story.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 15, 2022 11:18 AM (jTmQV)

3 NOT Sponge!
NOT first!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at January 15, 2022 11:18 AM (CCwsu)

4 hiya

Posted by: JT at January 15, 2022 11:18 AM (arJlL)

5 Hiya, JT

Posted by: KT at January 15, 2022 11:20 AM (0ghg2)

6 Are we on the DOJ domestic terrorist list?....for reading/posting here?

Posted by: BignJames at January 15, 2022 11:20 AM (AwYPR)

7 I would happily support any outlet that supports free speech.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 15, 2022 11:20 AM (mD/uy)

8 For dot doing anything today slacking in firsts.

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 11:20 AM (2JoB8)

9 Are we on the DOJ domestic terrorist list?....for reading/posting here?
Posted by: BignJames

I have to assume so.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 15, 2022 11:21 AM (mD/uy)

10 7 I would happily support any outlet that supports free speech.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 15, 2022 11:20 AM (mD/uy)


Trump's won't. Not really.

They'll all adopt the language of the left to eliminate 'hate speech'.

Gab is the only real free speech platform.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 15, 2022 11:23 AM (7F9te)

11 Red corpuscles.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 15, 2022 11:23 AM (vuisn)

12 I volunteer for the firing squad when we line fb twitter google and youtube up against the wall

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 15, 2022 11:23 AM (GPwVZ)

13 6 Are we on the DOJ domestic terrorist list?....for reading/posting here?
Posted by: BignJames at January 15, 2022 11:20 AM (AwYPR)

I expect so, or else I want a refund of my Platinum membership fee.

Posted by: Roy at January 15, 2022 11:24 AM (Ti+Tv)

14 Devin Nunes sounds like a Jan 6 white supremacist conspiracy qanon crazy person.
- National Review

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss Delta Variant at January 15, 2022 11:24 AM (leluP)

15 Good morning (barely) all!

Son who is an outfielder is being called into practice to pitch today. Odd. His head coach no longer attends practices and will not return my messages about my son getting into a local college on a baseball scholarship. My son's favorite coach is his summer travel ball coach, who coaches a rival team we play against this spring. It is a mess.

Posted by: jmel at January 15, 2022 11:25 AM (bVhJi)

16 I volunteer for the firing squad when we line fb twitter google and youtube up against the wall

If the weapon of choice is machine guns, count me in.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at January 15, 2022 11:25 AM (SchxB)

17 Ben Had,
We have package lockers and get packages all the time. The tracking just says it's been delayed...

Posted by: lin-duh at January 15, 2022 11:25 AM (UUBmN)

18 Trump is definitely running in '24.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2022 11:26 AM (ZLI7S)

19 Will see Arizona rally later of course but why have rallies if not running?
Never had a social media account but might if it was a conservative one to follow say DJT. Actually thought a few time to get a Twitter just to see what The Donald was putting out there, thought they were funny.

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 11:27 AM (2JoB8)

20 If He is running I'm voting for him

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 11:27 AM (2JoB8)

21 Outer Limits > Twilight Zone
But i like TZ

Posted by: SFGoth at January 15, 2022 11:27 AM (KAi1n)

22 Trump is definitely running in '24.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2022 11:26 AM (ZLI7S)


I'll support him 150% of course, but I am not convinced that is his or our best move. But I have thought him wrong before and he was right so WTF?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 15, 2022 11:28 AM (GPwVZ)

23 Hey, does anyone remember who else was in the Northampton black face picture? I thought it was another prominent dem.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 15, 2022 11:29 AM (YglAn)

24 I have to wonder how Trump's thing is going to be different. I hate to say it but platforms like Gab and Parlor just aren't very interesting when it's just pundits on our side saying the same thing over and over.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 15, 2022 11:29 AM (4thlk)

25 Any GOP candidate will be treated like a leper by the press and the media, this we know. It's been that way since Nixon.
Go Trump.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 15, 2022 11:29 AM (jTmQV)

26 Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 15, 2022 11:28 AM (GPwVZ)

He needs to STFU about the vaccines and make sure there are no establishment types around him.

Whatever Grahamnesty says to do, do the opposite.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 15, 2022 11:30 AM (YglAn)

27 Will see Arizona rally later of course but why have rallies if not running?
Never had a social media account but might if it was a conservative one to follow say DJT. Actually thought a few time to get a Twitter just to see what The Donald was putting out there, thought they were funny.
Posted by: Skip at Janu

I like gab but you also dont have to have a Twitter account to read Twitter posts. You just cant comment

Posted by: LASue at January 15, 2022 11:31 AM (7uCN/)

28 I've tried contacting these guys to submit a resume, but I never get a response from their "contact" links.

I'd prefer contributing my efforts to something like this, rather than the woke behemoth I work for today.

Posted by: Half Dozen at January 15, 2022 11:31 AM (dJs6r)

29 One doesn't have to like Trump to see the silent coup ( like Nixon) is the most dangerous thing that has happened to the Republic since the'Civil War.

It's much bigger than the individual Trump. He was just their trigger and the perfect person to con the useful idiots.

And Russia didn't have anything directly to do with it but the USSR set it up a long time ago.



Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 15, 2022 11:31 AM (3q554)

30 Breaking911
@Breaking911
PSAKI: "I have a little bit of news for all of you; next Wednesday, the president will hold a formal press conference at 4 p.m. in the afternoon."

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Your scripts will be handed out the day before.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at January 15, 2022 11:32 AM (FVME7)

31 >>I'll support him 150% of course, but I am not convinced that is his or our best move. But I have thought him wrong before and he was right so WTF?

I think he's the man for the moment. The '24 - '28 term is going to be hand to hand combat to continue the fight to gut DC. Trump is an inelegant blunt instrument but he's our inelegant blunt instrument and he is a man on a mission to exact retribution. Trump is a street fighter and he's now 4 years smarter on how DC operates.

In my perfect scenario he would DeSantis as his VP and give him a real portfolio of domestic policy to enact and then DeSantis could run-in '28 with a much cleaner field to really rebuild the country the right way.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2022 11:34 AM (ZLI7S)

32 In his interview, Nunes seemed to recognize Big Tech as a foe every bit as formidable as the ones he faced in Congress, perhaps even more formidable.

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Well, yeah. Big Tech is a major player in the coalition that runs Congress. If you want to have a fight, there's no point starting it with the errand boys.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 15, 2022 11:35 AM (hQ23g)

33 Breaking911
@Breaking911
PSAKI: "I have a little bit of news for all of you; next Wednesday, the president will hold a formal press conference at 4 p.m. in the afternoon."


The press pool can watch it on TV along with the rest of the nation.

Posted by: Roy at January 15, 2022 11:35 AM (Ti+Tv)

34 I wonder how a free-speech media platform will address the problem of saboteurs flooding the place with disgusting content, trying to shut it down or drive away normal people.

Posted by: Emmie at January 15, 2022 11:35 AM (6RgRK)

35 I like gab but you also dont have to have a Twitter account to read Twitter posts. You just cant comment

Twitter relies on eyeballs on their user provided content. Deny them that and they're done.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at January 15, 2022 11:36 AM (SchxB)

36 I would happily support any outlet that supports free speech.
Posted by: Tonypete at January 15, 2022 11:20 AM (mD/uy)


Ditto.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 15, 2022 11:37 AM (axyOa)

37 Isn't 4pm past him prime time Psucki?

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 11:37 AM (2JoB8)

38 Outer Limits > Twilight Zone
But i like TZ
Posted by: SFGoth

Loved The Galaxy Being episode. Scared the hell out of me as a kid.

Posted by: Tonypete at January 15, 2022 11:37 AM (mD/uy)

39 Breaking911
@Breaking911
PSAKI: "I have a little bit of news for all of you; next Wednesday, the president will hold a formal press conference at 4 p.m. in the afternoon."

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Did he finally remember the sixth state?

Posted by: LASue at January 15, 2022 11:38 AM (7uCN/)

40 I'm sure it will be pre-approved Democrat Propaganda Ministry personnel asking questions given to them by Sundowner's handlers

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 11:39 AM (2JoB8)

41 Why is Brandon holding a press conference next Wednesday "breaking news"???

Posted by: lin-duh at January 15, 2022 11:39 AM (UUBmN)

42 Huge underwater volcano explosion near Tonga is visible from space. So far as I know, the tsunami has not been catastrophic.

https://bit.ly/3Gy6nnk

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at January 15, 2022 11:39 AM (FVME7)

43 I'm old enough to remember when Democrats just wanted equal airtime. If nothing else the internet did just that. They just suck at trying to sell their bullshit when faced with an opposing, intelligent argument so now it's ban's, doxing, labels, warning and fact checks.

Posted by: Fool Otto at January 15, 2022 11:40 AM (DB16e)

44 "You slandered colleagues who did not surrender to you, you turned the people against each other, divided society and polarised the discourse. You branded, without any scientific basis, people who chose not to get vaccinated as enemies of the public and as spreaders of disease. You promote, in an unprecedented way, a draconian policy of discrimination, denial of rights and selection of people, including children, for their medical choice. A selection that lacks any epidemiological justification.

When you compare the destructive policies you are pursuing with the sane policies of some other countries -- you can clearly see that the destruction you have caused has only added victims beyond the vulnerable to the virus. The economy you ruined, the unemployment you caused, and the children whose education you destroyed are the surplus victims as a result of your own actions only."

-- Professor Ehud Qimron, Head of the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at Tel Aviv University

Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 15, 2022 11:40 AM (vuisn)

45
Why is Brandon holding a press conference next Wednesday "breaking news"???
Posted by: lin-duh at January 15, 2022 11:39 AM (UUBmN)
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Maybe CO Alex's prediction is right, and it's Harris Time.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 15, 2022 11:41 AM (hQ23g)

46 @31 Right on!

It's not yet safe for DeSantis.
Trump plans to use his Dunes led media platform as a counter to Media, who have lost credibility. What props it up at the moment is a lack of competition.

Wait until the middle of the country realizes how much they've been lied to. When ground beef is $15 lb, and gas is $6 a gallon

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 15, 2022 11:41 AM (i0slg)

47 Didn't the criminal media have a meltdown about the prospect of conservative social media?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at January 15, 2022 11:41 AM (eGTCV)

48 Why is Brandon holding a press conference next Wednesday "breaking news"???
Posted by: lin-duh

It's a man bites dog story.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at January 15, 2022 11:42 AM (FVME7)

49 PSAKI: "I have a little bit of news for all of you; next Wednesday, the president will hold a formal press conference at 4 p.m. in the afternoon."

QUSTIONS ASSIGNMENT

ABC: What is the best ice cream you have ever eaten?

NBC: How is the new dog adjusting to the White House?

CBS: Does Doctor Jill help you sellect a good moisturizer?

CNN: Mr President, given yoiuir resounding success with the economy, what do you plan for 2022?

Posted by: Diogenes at January 15, 2022 11:42 AM (axyOa)

50 ,Maybe CO Alex's prediction is right, and it's Harris Time.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Because we aren't circling the drain fast enough?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at January 15, 2022 11:43 AM (FVME7)

51

-- Professor Ehud Qimron, Head of the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at Tel Aviv University

Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 15, 2022 11:40 AM


I read the entire letter a couple days ago and it was like it was written about the USA.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 15, 2022 11:44 AM (dQvv7)

52 I've always contended that without the media the Democrats would lose their messaging and thus be forced to stand on their platform alone. If you listen to them, actually any politician, very few can articulate their position and thoughts with any clarity. Most of them are used to having someone else "do the talking" for them... typically the media which gets its talking points from congressional staffers. The politicians themselves are unable to put in words what they're trying to do. Try listening to Pelosi sometime. It's not entirely the vodka or dementia that makes her sound insane. Yet the media will post her message with all the insanity removed.

The media, and by extension "Big Tech" are truly evil and need to be addressed kinetically.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 15, 2022 11:44 AM (BFigT)

53 sittin around wasting my day with COVID. I'm vaxxed BTW. I don't think these vaccines work. biggest scam of our lifetime.

I'm not just positive, I'm actually sick. I have had worse though. I think we should have just let everybody get sick naturally and gotten this over with a year and a half ago. I think the death toll would have been the same.

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at January 15, 2022 11:44 AM (h1jJh)

54 Two of things people dislike most about Gab are:

That it actually allows free speech. Which means yes, racism, anti-semitism, whatever the hell you want to take about.

And

That you actually have to be a member of the community in order to access what the community is saying to each other. Google and Amazon and other big techs don't like that either. They want a free peak at whatever you are talking about and thinking about so they can track your data hi, low and everywhere in between.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 15, 2022 11:45 AM (7F9te)

55 >>Why is Brandon holding a press conference next Wednesday "breaking news"???

Probably the same reason he's wagging the dog in Ukraine, to distract from his long string of failures.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2022 11:46 AM (ZLI7S)

56 What make and model of smartphone did you buy?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 15, 2022 11:46 AM (63Dwl)

57 Because we aren't circling the drain fast enough?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at January 15, 2022 11:43 AM (FVME7)

If Harris took over tomorrow, it wouldn't change a thing. None of these decisions are made in the WH or Capitol. This country is run from a mansion in Kalorama, and that isn't changing with a shuffling of chairs.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 15, 2022 11:47 AM (hQ23g)

58 Why is Brandon holding a press conference next Wednesday "breaking news"???

Probably the same reason he's wagging the dog in Ukraine, to distract from his long string of failures.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2022 11:46 AM (ZLI7S)


Probably sometng to this...anyone know if anything is going on at Ft Bragg with the 82nd?

Posted by: Diogenes at January 15, 2022 11:47 AM (axyOa)

59
>>Why is Brandon holding a press conference next Wednesday "breaking news"???

President Joe Biden is reportedly planning to push his police reform agenda via an executive order as early as this month.

The executive actions are still being finalized, according to NBC News, but are expected to be rolled out at the start of Black History Month in February as the administration tries to achieve policy goals leading up to the president's State of the Union address in March.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 15, 2022 11:47 AM (63Dwl)

60 About half of all ICE detainees are refusing the vax!

I am beginning to think this citizenship shit is over rated!

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 15, 2022 11:47 AM (yrol0)

61 The only thing breaking with Biden is wind.

Just Ask Camilla Parker Bowles.

Posted by: LASue at January 15, 2022 11:49 AM (7uCN/)

62 AW that is terrifying awesome

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 11:50 AM (2JoB8)

63 In my perfect scenario he would DeSantis as his VP and give him a real portfolio of domestic policy to enact and then DeSantis could run-in '28 with a much cleaner field to really rebuild the country the right way.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2022 11:34
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Agree, but one of them would have to change their state of residence. Can't have 2 people from same state running for Pres and VP, iirc.

Posted by: olddog in mo at January 15, 2022 11:50 AM (ju2Fy)

64 Biden's version of defund the police is on the table. He is going to try and push it through with EOs.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 15, 2022 11:50 AM (3q554)

65 What time is the Trump rally and where can I watch?

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 15, 2022 11:50 AM (Vxu+H)

66 Sundowner doing a press conference is news, in a year he has only had a few and carefully orchestrated at that.

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 11:51 AM (2JoB8)

67 AW that is terrifying awesome
Posted by: Skip

Note correct usage of the word "awesome". You don't see that much anymore.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at January 15, 2022 11:51 AM (FVME7)

68 "Agree, but one of them would have to change their state of residence. Can't have 2 people from same state running for Pres and VP, iirc."

Trump "moves" back to Trump Tower. Easy-peasy.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 15, 2022 11:51 AM (i0slg)

69
What time is the Trump rally and where can I watch?

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 15, 2022 11:50 AM


The wife said Newsmax is carrying it live. Time? Don't know Arizona time vs east coast.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 15, 2022 11:52 AM (dQvv7)

70 Lemmiwinks,
**fist bump**
I'm sick too but I'm un-"vaccinated".I've had worse. Since I'm high risk they have me scheduled for a monoclonal infusion Thursday...if they have any supply. I should be getting my ivermectin today hopefully and will start that also.

Posted by: lin-duh at January 15, 2022 11:53 AM (UUBmN)

71 Biden's version of defund the police is on the table. He is going to try and push it through with EOs.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter

Yeah, of all our shortages, our crime shortage is the most severe.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at January 15, 2022 11:53 AM (FVME7)

72 I don't want Trump as President again. Besides his age I think he made three huge mistakes that has a lot to do with the position we are in today.

Though If he becomes our nominee I will fully support him.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 15, 2022 11:54 AM (3q554)

73 Thanks Traitor Joe

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 15, 2022 11:54 AM (Vxu+H)

74 Politifact says both can be from same state
https://tinyurl.com/2p9fzbz2

It is usually not done as you need to Pres to win his state and the VP to win his (a diff one).

PS Gore did not win TN in 2000.

Posted by: rhennigantx at January 15, 2022 11:54 AM (yrol0)

75 I don't think another attack on local LE is going to help Dems much at this point. They need to bolster black support, but that's going to be seen as a "meh," and few people will believe it makes any difference, because it doesn't. This is flailing.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 15, 2022 11:55 AM (hQ23g)

76 I guess I can stop wondering why my kid couldn't make any time to get together over the holidays.

I sent a text to them, intended for a co-worker, about covid b.s. I received a wall of text back that sounded like it came straight from Fauci or Walensky.

So sad.

Posted by: Fool Otto at January 15, 2022 11:55 AM (DB16e)

77 It is very windy outside in Cen-Tex .
Maybe Trump can buy a condo in Texas and set up residency here...

Posted by: lin-duh at January 15, 2022 11:56 AM (UUBmN)

78
I saw diesel fuel yesterday at $4.00 a gallon. But sure Joe, talk about mental health and the police.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 15, 2022 11:57 AM (dQvv7)

79 This is flailing.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

They have been flailing since the minute the potato brain took his hand off the Bible. I see this as death thoes.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 15, 2022 11:57 AM (Vxu+H)

80 Love the typewriter. It's funny how many machines show up in music...typewriters, coffee makers, popcorn machines, cars even.

Posted by: creeper at January 15, 2022 11:58 AM (cTCuP)

81 Though If he becomes our nominee I will fully support him.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 15, 2022 11:54 AM (3q554)

My view is a mirror image of yours... I like Trump and want him in again, without regard to the mistakes he made. But not as a Republican. If he is the Republican nominee, I will not vote for him. No GOP is my line in the sand. I can only support a candidate who runs against all of the Uniparty, not half.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 15, 2022 11:58 AM (hQ23g)

82 Has Buttigieg said anything about the train pirates?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at January 15, 2022 11:58 AM (eGTCV)

83 I don't want Trump as President again. Besides his age I think he made three huge mistakes that has a lot to do with the position we are in today.

True, the Deep State would not be on the verge of destroying itself without him. Did you see the things that happened on Thursday?! I would love to have him as President again.

Posted by: t-bird at January 15, 2022 11:58 AM (fSmfa)

84 24 I have to wonder how Trump's thing is going to be different. I hate to say it but platforms like Gab and Parlor just aren't very interesting when it's just pundits on our side saying the same thing over and over.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 15, 2022 11:29 AM (4thlk)

Particularly if you are not a bible thumper, which I am not. Very limited viewpoints and not conducive to living your (my) best life.

Posted by: Bonnie Blue - says FU at January 15, 2022 11:59 AM (hlxe7)

85 26 Posted by: Nevergiveup at January 15, 2022 11:28 AM (GPwVZ)

He needs to STFU about the vaccines and make sure there are no establishment types around him.

Whatever Grahamnesty says to do, do the opposite.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at January 15, 2022 11:30 AM (YglAn)

And until that happens, he no longer has my support.

Posted by: Bonnie Blue - says FU at January 15, 2022 12:00 PM (hlxe7)

86 Re: Biden's police reform. I think we have huge problems in how we police, and here's how the federal government can start fixing it. Zero federal funds to local police forces. Zero surplus military equipment to local police forces. Quit funding this shit.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 15, 2022 12:00 PM (4thlk)

87 Are we on the DOJ domestic terrorist list?....for reading/posting here?
Posted by: BignJames


WHAT? Are you new here? Wait your already on my list.

Posted by: Bob at NSA at January 15, 2022 12:00 PM (kfMOd)

88 Trump highlights (i.e., exposes) people to either help him or to destroy them. They become stars. The one pick that doesn't fit is Deborah Birx. I don't get why he picked her.

Posted by: t-bird at January 15, 2022 12:01 PM (8u/ei)

89 81 Though If he becomes our nominee I will fully support him.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 15, 2022 11:54 AM (3q554)

My view is a mirror image of yours... I like Trump and want him in again, without regard to the mistakes he made. But not as a Republican. If he is the Republican nominee, I will not vote for him. No GOP is my line in the sand. I can only support a candidate who runs against all of the Uniparty, not half.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 15, 2022 11:58 AM (hQ23g)

Then, you're signing up for a Dem 2nd term...3rd parties have killed our side in the past - see why Tester keeps winning his seat. Nationwide, there is no way you will win with an EC vote with 3 real parties in - see Clinton, Bush, Perot...you have to retake one party to win in the short term...

Posted by: Nova local at January 15, 2022 12:02 PM (exHjb)

90 WHAT? Are you new here? Wait your already on my list.

Posted by: Bob at NSA at January 15, 2022 12:00 PM (kfMOd)

It's nice to be noticed...sometimes.

Posted by: BignJames at January 15, 2022 12:03 PM (AwYPR)

91 It's a madhouse! A madhouse!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 15, 2022 12:03 PM (R/m4+)

92 Here's another little tech tip: don't do business with Google.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at January 15, 2022 12:04 PM (1fcvE)

93 37 Isn't 4pm past him prime time Psucki?
Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 11:37 AM (2JoB

Likely prerecorded on a stage set while highly juiced up on anti-dementia drugs.

Posted by: Bonnie Blue - says FU at January 15, 2022 12:04 PM (hlxe7)

94 Jerry Lewis doing The Type Writer Song. 1963.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzB53YL78rE&t=2s

Posted by: thatcrazyjerseyguy at January 15, 2022 12:04 PM (Zvtjl)

95 *snort.. that picture is hilarious!

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at January 15, 2022 12:04 PM (nxdel)

96 lin-duh, I'm so sorry I didn't send it to you priority mail.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 15, 2022 12:05 PM (VVPz6)

97 Youngkin coming out of the gate strong!

> Virginia's new Attorney General has just fired the entire civil rights division in the AG office and announced that he will prosecute criminal cases in jurisdictions where Soros DAs decline to prosecute.

https://bit.ly/3quc145

Posted by: bonhomme at January 15, 2022 12:06 PM (i0wNm)

98 41 Why is Brandon holding a press conference next Wednesday "breaking news"???
Posted by: lin-duh at January 15, 2022 11:39 AM (UUBmN)

Maybe he will announce his decision to start a war with Russia or something else equally disastrous and distracting, while all supplies are cut off from us peasants.

Posted by: Bonnie Blue - says FU at January 15, 2022 12:06 PM (hlxe7)

99 3 pounds 9 ounces of jerky meat produced five 4 ounce packages of jerky*


*Minus mandatory quality control sampling and payment for my two K9 assistants.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at January 15, 2022 12:06 PM (bVYXr)

100 What three HUGE mistakes are you speaking of, anti?

Posted by: IrishEi at January 15, 2022 12:06 PM (0TVNF)

101 I'll gladly vote for Trump but he needs to thread the needle on vaccines. A coherent message that satisfies both sides of his base would be welcome. And no more bragging about boosters.

Posted by: Max Power at January 15, 2022 12:06 PM (QCc6B)

102 101st.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at January 15, 2022 12:06 PM (1fcvE)

103 Outer Limits > Twilight Zone
But i like TZ
Posted by: SFGoth at January 15, 2022 11:27 AM (KAi1n)

Which one had the episode where the scientist was turning himself into an "alien" so he could land a spaceship at the UN and get the world to unite against the "aliens" instead of an West vs. Commie nuke war?

He became such a monster when he landed off course they shot him.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 15, 2022 12:06 PM (R/m4+)

104 I don't blame Trump for his appointees.
Like being handed a bowl full of blue M and Ms and trying to find a red one...

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 15, 2022 12:08 PM (jTmQV)

105 88 Trump highlights (i.e., exposes) people to either help him or to destroy them. They become stars. The one pick that doesn't fit is Deborah Birx. I don't get why he picked her.

Posted by: t-bird

For some positions, you actually have to have experts on the subject and experienced with policy making. The problem for an outsider is that experts pretty much simply regurgitate what they have done before because that is how they got where they are. Basically, outsiders are always limited in what can be accomplished because of the dead weight of 'experts'. Insiders are always limited because they simply cannot contemplate destruction of the existing order to build something new.

So, unfortunately, it usually takes a great calamity to grant a leader or leaders sweeping powers to rejuvenate a system and sweep away the dead weight of rancid elites. Most of the time, those sweeping powers are used for the benefit of the leader(s) and not for the citizens. American Revolution was a rare counter example in history along with some other counter examples such as Konrad Adenauer in post war W. Germany.

Posted by: whig at January 15, 2022 12:08 PM (dCGWj)

106 Saw a photo of Kamala on TownHall. It wasn't the braying ass you normally see. It was one her staff probably sees all the time. "I don't understand any of this. Why aren't you spoon feeding it to me in short memorable easy to repeat slogans? Why aren't you letting me slide by and explaining to everyone that I was right and they didn't understand how right I was. This is starting to piss me off and someone is going to get an earful. You willl rue the day you didn't act as the meat shield you are, and so will everyone else who saw this."

Posted by: Downcast at January 15, 2022 12:08 PM (AEMfu)

107 97 Youngkin coming out of the gate strong!

> Virginia's new Attorney General has just fired the entire civil rights division in the AG office and announced that he will prosecute criminal cases in jurisdictions where Soros DAs decline to prosecute.

https://bit.ly/3quc145
Posted by: bonhomme at January 15, 2022 12:06 PM (i0wNm)

It's actually the AG who did this - Miyares - this is what happens when the people take back their state and local party. You can get politicians who represent them (Miyares also want not the uniparty pick). He is the 1st POC to be VA AG...

Posted by: Nova local at January 15, 2022 12:09 PM (exHjb)

108 I see legitimate debate on the HQ all the time, which is why I lurk here.
Why can't the Democrats debate conservative ideas rather than instant resort to shrieking?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at January 15, 2022 12:10 PM (eGTCV)

109 I remember being maybe 4 or 5 watching TZ and Night Gallery hiding under a blanket but watching them with my mom, my dad was working evening shift.

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 12:10 PM (2JoB8)

110 Welp, the girl has a positive home covid test. Hubbymayhem and I both had delta version in late August or early September. It was nasty. The girl, however, has a head cold. Headache for a few days now congestion. Last night she wandered in to the living room and announced that she would rather have a limb amputated than suffer the awfulness of this glorified head cold. I said "drama much princess?" She rolled her eyes and said ....
"It's called being a teenager. We have to over react to minor inconvenience. It's like a law or something."

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 15, 2022 12:10 PM (Vxu+H)

111 "It's called being a teenager. We have to over react to minor inconvenience. It's like a law or something."

Posted by: Madamemayhem

You raised a good daughter, she has self awareness. Many people do not.

Posted by: whig at January 15, 2022 12:11 PM (dCGWj)

112 *want should be was b/c apparently my typing stops working on weekends...

Posted by: Nova local at January 15, 2022 12:12 PM (exHjb)

113 "... next Wednesday at 4 p.m. in the afternoon."

Redundant much?

Posted by: creeper at January 15, 2022 12:12 PM (cTCuP)

114 Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at January 15, 2022 12:10 PM (eGTCV)

Because you are a Nazi and a racist and we know where you live.

Posted by: The Democrat Media Complex at January 15, 2022 12:13 PM (Q9lwr)

115 Police defunding is a stupid and dangerous idea instituted to appease blacks. I see them as a protected class, just behind the illegals. My sympathy meter is pretty much pegged at zero.

But by all means institute "reform" instead of actually policing the criminals.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 15, 2022 12:13 PM (BFigT)

116 I'll gladly vote for Trump but he needs to thread the needle on vaccines. A coherent message that satisfies both sides of his base would be welcome. And no more bragging about boosters.
Posted by: Max Power at January 15, 2022 12:06 PM (QCc6B)

I will never get the shot but I appreciate how Trump eliminated the red tape and got the process streamlined for those who need or want it. He can brag about that all he wants and it doesnt bother me. The only thing he would lose me on would be if he forced it on people , and that I know he would never do.

Posted by: LASue at January 15, 2022 12:13 PM (7uCN/)

117
I always consider how low the left has gone in the past and the trend line that always dips lower. I can see a strategy on the left to suddenly open up all the data on the vax, reveal the VAERs database as being off by a magnitude of 10X, throw Fauci under the bus, and conspire with the EU to hold Nuremberg 2.0 with Trump front and center.

Fauci will then testify under oath that he warned Trump of all the side effects, warned him that animal studies had not been performed, and generally turn world opinion against Trump. Required witnesses are kept in secure locations, under guard, and not permitted to leave until the trial has completed. Sometime months after the election.

I don't want it to be this way, but this is the way the left plays.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 15, 2022 12:13 PM (dQvv7)

118 108 I see legitimate debate on the HQ all the time, which is why I lurk here.
Why can't the Democrats debate conservative ideas rather than instant resort to shrieking?

Posted by: N.L. Urker

Because essentially politics has become a pseudo religion for Dems as they increasingly move to atheism. Note that often the most vitriolic comments are about religion here--not politics. Money is fungible and dividable. Social policies and norms of what is right and wrong are not.

Posted by: whig at January 15, 2022 12:13 PM (dCGWj)

119 >>I'll gladly vote for Trump but he needs to thread the needle on vaccines. A coherent message that satisfies both sides of his base would be welcome. And no more bragging about boosters.

The one thing that always seems to get cut from his remarks when he is asked about vaccines is that while he is a strong proponent he is equally strong that it is a personal choice and that there should be no mandates. He also does not recommend them for young people.

I don't fully agree with him but I don't find that position all that offensive. I don't expect to agree with anyone on everything and as long as I'm not being forced to do something then I can live with it.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2022 12:14 PM (ZLI7S)

120 "It's called being a teenager. We have to over react to minor inconvenience. It's like a law or something."

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 15, 2022 12:10 PM (Vxu+H)

:-)

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2022 12:14 PM (Q9lwr)

121 -- Professor Ehud Qimron, Head of the Department of Microbiology and Immunology at Tel Aviv University
Posted by: Dr. Varno at January 15, 2022 11:40 AM (vuisn)


Ok, so who is the "you" Ehud's referring to in the quote?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at January 15, 2022 12:15 PM (ZSK0i)

122 I don't expect to agree with anyone on everything and as long as I'm not being forced to do something then I can live with it.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2022 12:14 PM (ZLI7S)

You political purity is marginal at best. Watch your step and stop thinking for yourself.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2022 12:16 PM (Q9lwr)

123 Hi CBD! Glad your feeling bettery!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 15, 2022 12:16 PM (Vxu+H)

124 Ok, so who is the "you" Ehud's referring to in the quote?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM

Israeli leaders, they are on their fourth round of boosters and are applying draconian restrictions on those not vaccinated with a pass system.

Posted by: whig at January 15, 2022 12:17 PM (dCGWj)

125 The most important thing, next Presidental election, will be the economy.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at January 15, 2022 12:17 PM (YynYJ)

126 I've got very low expectations for a Trump social media company. He wouldn't go on Gab, which is the purest free speech platform in existence. And look at his supporters rail about how Gab won't kick off Nazi LARPers.

Trump's greatest supporters aren't freedom-people. They are feudalists who want their own people in charge. They support wealth confiscation and redistribution, so long as the money goes to their own pet causes.

In short, most of the country wants and expects a government solution to every problem, and this tacks with Trump's own style. The difference for most people is whether it's patriotic to want the UN to run everything, or more patriotic to have the President run everything.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 15, 2022 12:18 PM (VlI+9)

127 Ok, so who is the "you" Ehud's referring to in the quote?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at January 15, 2022 12:15 PM (ZSK0i)

It's an open letter written to the Israeli Ministry of Health.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2022 12:18 PM (Q9lwr)

128 Hi CBD!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 15, 2022 12:16 PM (Vxu+H)

Good afternoon young lady!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2022 12:19 PM (Q9lwr)

129
Which one had the episode where the scientist was turning himself into an "alien" so he could land a spaceship at the UN and get the world to unite against the "aliens" instead of an West vs. Commie nuke war?

He became such a monster when he landed off course they shot him.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy


Outer Limits - The Architects of Fear

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0667826

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 15, 2022 12:20 PM (63Dwl)

130 I think Trump wants to run again. I also think the GOP won't put him on the ballot. I've no idea how that will work for Trump, but he better think things through before proclaiming anything that relies on the GOP.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 15, 2022 12:20 PM (BFigT)

131 Dennis Prager says often the Left hates debates, hardly a Leftist will do any open debate anywhere. Yet conservatives dive into Leftist dens often.

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 12:22 PM (2JoB8)

132 Israeli leaders, they are on their fourth round of boosters and are applying draconian restrictions on those not vaccinated with a pass system.

Posted by: whig at January 15, 2022 12:17 PM (dCGWj)

I have a trip tentatively planned for April or May, but if Israel continues to be insane, I will go somewhere else.

And as you may know I am by no means anti-vaccination.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2022 12:22 PM (Q9lwr)

133
I think Trump is on 7 pm east coast time tonight. Newsmax is saying they're the only ones going to broadcast live.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 15, 2022 12:22 PM (dQvv7)

134 In short, most of the country wants and expects a government solution to every problem, and this tacks with Trump's own style.Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 15, 2022 12:18 PM (VlI+9)

Where were you during the four years Trump was putting the brakes on every liberal scheme he could?

Troll.

Posted by: creeper at January 15, 2022 12:23 PM (cTCuP)

135 82 Has Buttigieg said anything about the train pirates?
Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at January 15, 2022 11:58 AM (eGTCV)

His primary focus is on the butt pirates.

Posted by: Roy at January 15, 2022 12:23 PM (Ti+Tv)

136 Off topic but my sister-in-law, who underwent open heart surgery Wednesday, is failing. Any good thoughts and prayers would be appreciated.

Posted by: Javems at January 15, 2022 12:24 PM (AmoqO)

137 I think Tump made three major mistakes.

1. Allowed Antifa and BLM to run wild as a wrong headed re-election strategy.

2. Got played on Covid and allowed Fauci to become pseudo President and shut the country down, increased the debt by trillions for Covid relief giveaways and fed into the fear .

3. Let his ego go forward with Jan 6th even though you could see the trap coming from a million miles away. The rally was always a useless stroke to his ego. It wasn't going to change anything.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 15, 2022 12:25 PM (3q554)

138 Prayers up for SIL.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 15, 2022 12:25 PM (Vxu+H)

139 Off topic but my sister-in-law, who underwent open heart surgery Wednesday, is failing. Any good thoughts and prayers would be appreciated.
Posted by: Javems at January 15, 2022 12:24 PM (AmoqO

Just prayed.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at January 15, 2022 12:25 PM (eGTCV)

140 Many prayers for your sister-in-law, Javems

Posted by: IrishEi at January 15, 2022 12:25 PM (0TVNF)

141 Where were you during the four years Trump was putting the brakes on every liberal scheme he could?

Troll.

Posted by: creeper at January 15, 2022 12:23 PM (cTCuP)

Nope. Refute him...and it should be easy because I think he is empirically incorrect.

But accusations of "Troll" are lazy arguing.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2022 12:26 PM (Q9lwr)

142 You raised a good daughter, she has self awareness. Many people do not.

-
On a completely unrelated topic . . .

Biden, Days After He Delivered Divisive Rant In Georgia: "I Ran For President To Unite The Country"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at January 15, 2022 12:27 PM (FVME7)

143 Agree, but one of them would have to change their state of residence. Can't have 2 people from same state running for Pres and VP, iirc.
Posted by: olddog in mo at January 15, 2022 11:50 AM (ju2Fy)

They can. But they both can't get electoral college votes from their home state.

Posted by: Fox2! at January 15, 2022 12:27 PM (qyH+l)

144 Scorsese doing a flick on the Dead. Why? Jonah Hill as Jerry Garcia. WTF?

Posted by: Indignatio Vindicatorem at January 15, 2022 12:27 PM (oWBc3)

145 Has the media declared voters aren't worthy of Senile Joe?

Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at January 15, 2022 12:27 PM (eGTCV)

146 136 Off topic but my sister-in-law, who underwent open heart surgery Wednesday, is failing. Any good thoughts and prayers would be appreciated.

Posted by: Javems at January 15, 2022 12:24 PM (AmoqO)

*reaches for crystal*
Here are all the healing thoughts I can muster, for both your sister-in-law and her doctors. Please keep us posted.

Posted by: creeper at January 15, 2022 12:27 PM (cTCuP)

147 Where were you during the four years Trump was putting the brakes on every liberal scheme he could?
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He did great at reducing regulation, and then started picking winners and losers with tariffs. His cronies promised jobs and plants and manufacturing, and they closed plants, laid off workers and made off with their quick cash bailout money.

Where were you? Jerking off to union promises of free shit forever?

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Troll.
------

You can't separate your own personality from your worship of a golden calf. Thanks so much for underscoring my points.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 15, 2022 12:27 PM (VlI+9)

148 I think Trump made three major mistakes.
Anti doesn't matter

I can't disagree with you on any of those.

Posted by: Mky at January 15, 2022 12:29 PM (cPGH3)

149 >>I think Trump wants to run again. I also think the GOP won't put him on the ballot. I've no idea how that will work for Trump, but he better think things through before proclaiming anything that relies on the GOP.

I view Graham as a reliable weathervane in the GOP. When he came out the other day and said he wouldn't vote for any GOP Senate leader that couldn't get along with Trump I saw that as a powerful indicator of who is really running the ship.

At the beginning of the week a Trump endorsed primary challenger to Rep. John Katko of NY entered the race. Yesterday, Katko, one of the Republicans who voted to impeach Trump, dropped out.

The GOP gets more Trumpy everyday.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2022 12:29 PM (ZLI7S)

150 132 CBD,

Good luck with your planned trip to Israel which I hope that you can accomplish. I am not a hard anti vaxx either as I did get the J&J one shot early on due to medical issues but not planning on any boosters due to effects after the shot.

Posted by: whig at January 15, 2022 12:29 PM (dCGWj)

151 Javems - sent

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 12:29 PM (2JoB8)

152 OK, I'll refute, in multiple posts.

"1. Allowed Antifa and BLM to run wild as a wrong headed re-election strategy. "

Ridiculous. This only happened in blue states. You need the governor to request National Guard, which they never did.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 15, 2022 12:30 PM (jTmQV)

153 Prayers up Javerns.

My friend who's open heart surgery was yesterday has come thru well.
2022 off to a shitty start.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 15, 2022 12:30 PM (axyOa)

154 Golden calves are tight !!!

Posted by: The Way It Is at January 15, 2022 12:30 PM (Ny/l2)

155 Friday is the March For Life.

Posted by: Former Fetus at January 15, 2022 12:31 PM (Ms7B4)

156 Posted by: Javems at January 15, 2022 12:24 PM (AmoqO)

Sorry to hear of her trouble. Will pray for your SIL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 15, 2022 12:31 PM (k49Sx)

157 Saw a photo of Kamala on TownHall. It wasn't the braying ass you normally see. It was one her staff probably sees all the time. "I don't understand any of this. Why aren't you spoon feeding it to me in short memorable easy to repeat slogans? Why aren't you letting me slide by and explaining to everyone that I was right and they didn't understand how right I was. This is starting to piss me off and someone is going to get an earful. You willl rue the day you didn't act as the meat shield you are, and so will everyone else who saw this."
Posted by: Downcast at January 15, 2022 12:08 PM (AEMfu)


Is it true that most AAs in California hated her and briiliant Pence chose to not "pounce" on that?

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at January 15, 2022 12:32 PM (y7DUB)

158 Youngkin being sworn in now.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 15, 2022 12:32 PM (NpAcC)

159 "2. Got played on Covid and allowed Fauci to become pseudo President and shut the country down, increased the debt by trillions for Covid relief giveaways and fed into the fear."

Hoodwinked by globalist cabal, I'll allow that. This bio-weapon plague is, to my knowledge, unprecedented in my experience. But, no president would have done anything different, and many would have done much worse.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 15, 2022 12:32 PM (jTmQV)

160 But accusations of "Troll" are lazy arguing.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2022 12:26 PM (Q9lwr)
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Lazy thinking from lazy minds. Indeed.

Most of the population reach decisions through their emotions. The more intense the feeling, the more 'real' their understanding. It's only later (if at all) that they process things through reason or logic.

Most Americans are completely ignorant of Civics, History, and Economics. It's been 5 generations of embedding cultural lies into the minds of our citizenry to the point where most assume government schools, government sustenance, and government retirement is how it should be.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 15, 2022 12:32 PM (VlI+9)

161 Prayers up, Javems.

Posted by: olddog in mo at January 15, 2022 12:32 PM (ju2Fy)

162 Off topic but my sister-in-law, who underwent open heart surgery Wednesday, is failing. Any good thoughts and prayers would be appreciated.
Posted by: Javems

Okay

Posted by: JT at January 15, 2022 12:32 PM (arJlL)

163 not planning on any boosters due to effects after the shot.

Posted by: whig at January 15, 2022 12:29 PM (dCGWj)

I am less concerned with side effects and more concerned with the pesky little fact that the booster will not work against the current variant. So there is no upside and all downside.

What's the point then?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2022 12:33 PM (Q9lwr)

164 I think Trump made three major mistakes.

Delegating the entire election fraud effort to Rudy was not a winning play.

Posted by: The Way It Is at January 15, 2022 12:33 PM (Ny/l2)

165 Ridiculous. This only happened in blue states. You need the governor to request National Guard, which they never did.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 15, 2022 12:30 PM (jTmQV)

That's not true in addition to them attacking Federal buildings.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 15, 2022 12:33 PM (3q554)

166 I'm sorry to hear that Javems. I will be praying for her.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at January 15, 2022 12:33 PM (nxdel)

167 Mrs D just pointed out an article in Military Times about shortages in the military's commissary and Post Exchange system overseas. It seems worse than any of the stores stateside. Forcing our troops to buy on the local economy is BS.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 15, 2022 12:34 PM (axyOa)

168 Nope. Refute him...and it should be easy because I think he is empirically incorrect.

But accusations of "Troll" are lazy arguing.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2022 12:26 PM

I thought pointing out the four years Trump dedicated to unraveling Dems' outrages was refutation enough. His twisted ramblings are unworthy of more effort than that.

"Troll" wasn't an argument. It was an observation.

Posted by: creeper at January 15, 2022 12:34 PM (cTCuP)

169 Posted by: Javems at January 15, 2022 12:24 PM (AmoqO)

Javems, may your sister-in-law be Blessed with Health and Healing.

May your (and her) Family be Blessed with Strength and Faith at this frightening time ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at January 15, 2022 12:34 PM (okV1R)

170 As for Jan. 6, it was a last resort, after all branches of our government had stabbed us in the back, all branches. SCOTUS never heard any evidence (which was abundant), Pence back stabbed us, GOP back stabbed us.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 15, 2022 12:34 PM (jTmQV)

171 I need to get my truck straightened out, being cold tools get tossed in anywhere and now can't find one if I need it.
Yet might be coldest day yet to do it.

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 12:34 PM (2JoB8)

172 Most Americans are completely ignorant of Civics, History, and Economics. It's been 5 generations of embedding cultural lies into the minds of our citizenry to the point where most assume government schools, government sustenance, and government retirement is how it should be.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus

Well, here I believe you're wrong. You're reacting to what you read or hear on media. In real life, I think that number is about 33%...maybe less.

Posted by: Mky at January 15, 2022 12:35 PM (cPGH3)

173 Oh no. Sending prayers, Javems.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 15, 2022 12:35 PM (NpAcC)

174 Which one had the episode where the scientist was turning himself into an "alien" so he could land a spaceship at the UN and get the world to unite against the "aliens" instead of an West vs. Commie nuke war?

Posted by: Hairyback Guy

#3, The Architects of Fear

Apropos title for these days.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 15, 2022 12:36 PM (KAi1n)

175 Prayers up, Javems. Even though my heart surgery was deemed successful I haven't been right since.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at January 15, 2022 12:36 PM (y7DUB)

176 Most of the population reach decisions through their emotions. The more intense the feeling, the more 'real' their understanding. It's only later (if at all) that they process things through reason or logic.

Most Americans are completely ignorant of Civics, History, and Economics. It's been 5 generations of embedding cultural lies into the minds of our citizenry to the point where most assume government schools, government sustenance, and government retirement is how it should be.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 15, 2022 12:32 PM (VlI+9)

Your last sentence is dead on...just see the discussion here about eliminating all public schools and just providing funds to parents to provide schooling - something that would have been reality 100ish years ago can't be imagined now. Most people cannot imagine fundamental changes that refocus on individual risk/freedom vs the more "supportive nanny" fundamental changes we've gone through the last 100 years. As the crank has only turned one way, most people can't imagine spinning it the other...they can only imagine stopping the crank.

Posted by: Nova local at January 15, 2022 12:37 PM (exHjb)

177 Prayers Javems for your SIL.


He became such a monster when he landed off course they shot him.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy

Outer Limits - The Architects of Fear

From the Planet Theta. Don't Scientologists have something to do with Thetans?

Posted by: Tonypete at January 15, 2022 12:37 PM (mD/uy)

178 Trumps instincts were to re-open before Easter. Whoever sold him on starting down this road we are on should author a book "Art of the Deal Deal"

Trump's team not having lawyers on the ground and ready to go on Nov 3 was not a good move either.

Posted by: Fool Otto at January 15, 2022 12:37 PM (DB16e)

179 present

Posted by: DB at January 15, 2022 12:37 PM (geLO8)

180 I am less concerned with side effects and more concerned with the pesky little fact that the booster will not work against the current variant. So there is no upside and all downside.

What's the point then?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Did not complete my thought, sorry. Whether the booster worked or not, due to side effects that I experienced after the first shot, it would not have and is not prudent for myself to take any further shots.

I have autoimmune issues and additionally have issues with prior lung damage and for that reason, at the time, it made sense to take it as a cost benefit analysis.

Posted by: whig at January 15, 2022 12:37 PM (dCGWj)

181 Youngkin is suppose to sign a bunch of executive orders today.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 15, 2022 12:37 PM (NpAcC)

182 "Scorsese doing a flick on the Dead. Why? Jonah Hill as Jerry Garcia. WTF?"
Posted by: Indignatio Vindicatorem at January 15, 2022 12:27 PM (oWBc3)


Cash in on some older boomer nostalgia. At least that movie about Queen had a dying of aids subplot in a pretty generic rise to fame story. I think, never watched that one either.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 15, 2022 12:38 PM (4thlk)

183 Most Americans are completely ignorant of Civics, History, and Economics

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Math, English, Science, Ethics . . .

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at January 15, 2022 12:38 PM (FVME7)

184 Does anyone have a clue about OM's health? I'm a little worried.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at January 15, 2022 12:38 PM (eGTCV)

185 Love the typewriter. It's funny how many machines show up in music...typewriters, coffee makers, popcorn machines, cars even.
Posted by: creeper at January 15, 2022 11:58 AM (cTCuP)


PDQ Bach had a piece featuring an electric floor buffer . . . Not his best work, and what sort of tonal range do you expect out of an electric floor buffer anyways?

Posted by: Kindltot at January 15, 2022 12:38 PM (ZMraq)

186 What's the point then?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2022 12:33 PM


That you do what we say.

Posted by: Top. Men. at January 15, 2022 12:38 PM (a3Q+t)

187 I think Trump made three major mistakes.

Disagree.

1. He respected federalism. He would have been called a dictator (and rightly so) hade he sent in federal forces on his own. It's crazy that local leftists and media embraced the rioting.

2. Early on we didn't know for sure how Covid would play. Scaremongering was the order of the day. Remember Andy's Grammy-winning daily pressers.

We needed a quick jolt of big spending else the collapse in spending would have spiraled us into a real depression.

3. He couldn't slink away from a stolen election. I have a relative who also blames Trump for not seeing the steal coming and stopping it.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 15, 2022 12:39 PM (i0slg)

188 Scorsese doing a flick on the Dead. Why? Jonah Hill as Jerry Garcia. WTF?"
Posted by: Indignatio Vindicatorem at January 15, 2022 12:27 PM (oWBc3)

I actually like Jonah Hill though not interested in a Dead movie.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 15, 2022 12:39 PM (3q554)

189 Re: Trump's failure on BLM-Antifa - Insurrection Act. Most Trumpservatives argue "He couldn't DO that, on account people who were already saying mean things about him would say mean things about him!"

Yep, and when your core principles are #winning and "Please like me," getting roasted publicly in the media puts unacceptable pressure on your ego, which must be serviced before servicing the good of the country. Populists, amIright?

Re: Trump's failure on The Steal - Calling upon the Militia to secure vote counting locations would've ended the nonsense. Millions of us were ready to answer that call. But he was never going to be a Constitutional vanguard. His idea of "fighter" is a guy with enough ego to bully people in a board room. Populist.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 15, 2022 12:39 PM (VlI+9)

190 By now it should be clear that Antifa and BLM are federal actors. Kamala herself set up funds to bail them out of jail.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 15, 2022 12:39 PM (jTmQV)

191 Youngkin is suppose to sign a bunch of executive orders today.
Posted by: redridinghood


Prayers for that as well...

May our leaders be Blessed with Wisdom, Strength, and Humility ...

Posted by: Adriane ... at January 15, 2022 12:40 PM (okV1R)

192 Whether the booster worked or not, due to side effects that I experienced after the first shot, it would not have and is not prudent for myself to take any further shots.

Posted by: whig at January 15, 2022 12:37 PM (dCGWj)

Wait...wait...wait! You are making your own medical decisions?

What kind of a racist are you?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2022 12:40 PM (Q9lwr)

193 Big Meat is bad. Big Energy is bad. Seems like anything Big is bad.

Except Big Government. Why is that, Jen?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at January 15, 2022 12:41 PM (a3Q+t)

194 Outer Limits - The Architects of Fear
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0667826
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at January 15, 2022 12:20 PM (63Dwl)

Excellent! Thanks Bertram Cabot, Jr.!

I wonder if the head Chinaman watched that episode.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 15, 2022 12:41 PM (R/m4+)

195 "Scorsese doing a flick on the Dead. Why? Jonah Hill as Jerry Garcia. WTF?"
Posted by: Indignatio Vindicatorem at January 15, 2022 12:27 PM (oWBc3)


Cash in on some older boomer nostalgia. At least that movie about Queen had a dying of aids subplot in a pretty generic rise to fame story. I think, never watched that one either.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 15, 2022 12:38 PM (4thlk)


Local clubs' cash flow is greatly enhanced by codger reunion tours and, even worse, cover bands.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at January 15, 2022 12:41 PM (y7DUB)

196 >>He did great at reducing regulation, and then started picking winners and losers with tariffs. His cronies promised jobs and plants and manufacturing, and they closed plants, laid off workers and made off with their quick cash bailout money.

>>Where were you? Jerking off to union promises of free shit forever?

That's not true. He took money from the tariffs and gave some it to industries that were being punished by the Chinese in response to the tariffs but that's not picking winner and losers.

Lots of manufacturing jobs did come back to the US and more were on the way. Pretty tough to turn around decades of bad trade deals and reverse trends in 3 years with very little support from Congress.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2022 12:41 PM (ZLI7S)

197 Some right wing radical Nazi named DiSantis:

We reject the biomedical security state that curtails liberty, ruins livelihoods and divides society. And we will protect the rights of individuals to live their lives free from the yolk of restrictions and mandates.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at January 15, 2022 12:41 PM (FVME7)

198 I wish Trump would change the name of his social media company to something other than Truth Social.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 15, 2022 12:42 PM (NpAcC)

199 Newsmax is saying they're the only ones going to broadcast live.

RSBNetwork.com is where I'll be watching it live. Come on, it's a Trump rally! You know rsbn is going to be there.

Posted by: t-bird at January 15, 2022 12:42 PM (oY5A0)

200 Love the typewriter. It's funny how many machines show up in music...typewriters, coffee makers, popcorn machines, cars even.
Posted by: creeper


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7UmUX68KtE

Posted by: Adriane the Muppets Critic ... at January 15, 2022 12:43 PM (okV1R)

201 the last thing I am going to say on the matter is that Trump is not perfect, but he was good on some things. If there is someone who is better I would vote for that candidate.

You know, LIKE WE SHOULD

Posted by: Kindltot at January 15, 2022 12:43 PM (ZMraq)

202 193 Big Meat is bad. Big Energy is bad. Seems like anything Big is bad.

Don't forget about Big Guy.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at January 15, 2022 12:44 PM (eGTCV)

203 Interesting.
I just read where the FAA issued a Ground Stop along the west coast and Hawaii due to the Nork missile test. Lasted about 20 minutes.
I wonder where the Agis cruisers were sitting?

Posted by: Diogenes at January 15, 2022 12:44 PM (axyOa)

204 "Troll" wasn't an argument. It was an observation.
Posted by: creeper at January 15, 2022 12:34 PM (cTCuP)
~~~~~

And a good one, especially judging from iao's responses.

Posted by: IrishEi at January 15, 2022 12:45 PM (0TVNF)

205 FJB is going to issue executive orders in Feb, black history month, to address police reform. Totally not pandering at all.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2022 12:46 PM (F4b8f)

206 I wish Trump would change the name of his social media company to something other than Truth Social.
Posted by: redridinghood at January 15, 2022 12:42 PM (NpAcC)

Yup.....I like Czervik Speaks.

Everybody loves Al Czervik.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 15, 2022 12:47 PM (R/m4+)

207 198 I wish Trump would change the name of his social media company to something other than Truth Social.
Posted by: redridinghood


Forward!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2022 12:47 PM (F4b8f)

208 imdb doesn't show Marty doing a Dead movie.

He's got Killers of the Flower Moon coming out this year and then a Teddy Roosevelt biopic.

Other things as a producer

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 15, 2022 12:47 PM (i0slg)

209 Make Social Media Great Again

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2022 12:47 PM (F4b8f)

210
I have a relative who also blames Trump for not seeing the steal coming and stopping it.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 15, 2022 12:39 PM


I can't speak for every state but here in Pennsylvania it is almost certain that totals were 're-arranged' by way of data base software. Who the hell could see that coming? Protocols to make certain voting machines were swept clean of such software were not followed.

In the end the Supreme Court or Mike Pence could have called a short 'time-out' for each state to spend some time taking a second look at numbers before the EC vote. Trump won, but lost.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 15, 2022 12:48 PM (dQvv7)

211 Amazing that someone can argue against big government in one breath and then cite as "failures" not using the federal super hammer of the Insurrection Act or calling out militias to fix a system we stood by and watched get subverted over multiple years. The same poster has in the past demonstrated a flawed understanding of, or perhaps an outright disagreement with, the concept of federalism and states rights. Hey just like Sotomayor!

Posted by: Indignatio Vindicatorem at January 15, 2022 12:48 PM (oWBc3)

212 Grateful Dead movie. LOL. 500 Beatles movies and documentaries, an I Love Lucy movie... This is getting asinine.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 15, 2022 12:48 PM (hQ23g)

213 Who would have handled the unpleasantness better?
Jeb? Marco? Cruz?

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 15, 2022 12:48 PM (jTmQV)

214 I don't get the Grateful Dead-
I think I've heard 2 or 3 of their songs- whichever ones they play on classic rock stations daily

Posted by: DB at January 15, 2022 12:50 PM (geLO8)

215 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7UmUX68KtE

Posted by: Adriane the Muppets Critic ... at January 15, 2022 12:43 PM (okV1R)

That was great! Popcorn looked like the Tonga volcano.

Posted by: creeper at January 15, 2022 12:50 PM (cTCuP)

216 Night Gallery is on Comet now

Posted by: Skip's Phone at January 15, 2022 12:50 PM (2JoB8)

217 "Grateful Dead movie. LOL. 500 Beatles movies and documentaries, an I Love Lucy movie... This is getting asinine."

Whut?

Posted by: Manimal - The Movie at January 15, 2022 12:51 PM (vrz2I)

218 Who would you recommend for AG if an R wins in 24?

One that would undoubtedly clean up the Doj and FIB.

That could be confirmed by A likely slim senate majority.

Posted by: I Mean at January 15, 2022 12:52 PM (7rueL)

219 One thing we can be sure of with any media effort spearheaded by Trump; the trolls will be out in full force from day one. How they're handled will be interesting.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 15, 2022 12:52 PM (BFigT)

220 I never understood the Greatfull Dead.
Wasn't a Queen fan but thought Bohemian Rhapsody was a decent movie.

Posted by: Skip's Phone at January 15, 2022 12:52 PM (2JoB8)

221 I thought pointing out the four years Trump dedicated to unraveling Dems' outrages was refutation enough. His twisted ramblings are unworthy of more effort than that.
-------

"Everyone who challenges my thinking must be my political enemy."

Where have I seen groupthink like that before? Oh....the American political Left. I don't think most Americans have even read the Constitution, or they consider it too 'old' or too 'esoteric' to have validity.

His first point last - you can work really hard and have all the best intentions and still be a collosal failure. But you'd need to able to separate yourself from your love of Trump in order to honestly appraise the performance of the last duly-elected President - the man who presided over the death of the republic.

The man who watched a dictator installed, rolled over, and told his supporters to do the same. You should seek out his speech from Jan 7, where he called the J6 rioters terrorists who attacked our country before he even had any facts at hand. It's the one where he exhorts YOU to come together with Democrats and heal the nation.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 15, 2022 12:52 PM (VlI+9)

222 I do notice that most of the defense of Trump is that everything bad that happens is not his fault and everything good is only something Trump could have accomplished.

That's why I really criticize Trump here against my better judgement. I'd rather discuss movies .

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 15, 2022 12:53 PM (3q554)

223 Chris Taylor pointed out this really is a "boomer" thing. You don't see younger generations churning out cheesy nostalgia by the truckload. But it's like as soon as that generation turned 35, it's just been decades of content celebrating their youth.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 15, 2022 12:53 PM (hQ23g)

224 Hollywood has no new ideas. They can only rehash the glory days, make it woke, and fail miserably. There is no real creativity in Whoretown anymore.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 15, 2022 12:53 PM (Vxu+H)

225 220 I never understood the Greatfull Dead.
Wasn't a Queen fan but thought Bohemian Rhapsody was a decent movie.
Posted by: Skip's Phone at January 15, 2022 12:52 PM (2JoB
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Pink Floyd, too.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 15, 2022 12:54 PM (VlI+9)

226 Prayers up for your SiL Javems. May God cradle her in his hands and if it is his will to bring her home from earthly toils, may he grant strength and comfort to her family and friends in their grief.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 15, 2022 12:55 PM (3cGpq)

227 PSAKI: "I have a little bit of news for all of you; next Wednesday, the president will hold a formal press conference at 4 p.m. in the afternoon."
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Jen, sweetheart, there is only one 4 p.m. per day, OK?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 15, 2022 12:55 PM (YqDXo)

228 Nunes knew that nothing would or will be done in Congress about this.. Don't blame him for moving on

Posted by: It's me donna at January 15, 2022 12:56 PM (TdaKq)

229 If you want to ease into the Dead, listen to their album "American Beauty".

Posted by: SFGoth at January 15, 2022 12:56 PM (KAi1n)

230 Undersea Volcano 40 mi off of tonga erupted and caused a tsunami as far away as san diego. Going to cover tonga in a couple inches of ash. All because trump pulled out of the paris accords.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2022 12:56 PM (F4b8f)

231 Whom would you recommend for AG if an R wins in 24?
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Vlad Tepes.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 15, 2022 12:57 PM (YqDXo)

232 Just saw. Yes, Marty will helm a Dead movie.

Who will play Owsley? Key figure in 60s history. Master maker of LSD and inspiration for Steely Dan's Kid Charlemagne. Bankrolled the Dead and created their unique sound system that made big concerts possible. Created the Dead's infamous logo to distinguish the band's music cases from those of other bands.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 15, 2022 12:57 PM (i0slg)

233 Trying to make a conservative social media is like trying to make heroin safe for daily use.

The problem isn't the politics, it's the medium.

Posted by: Well at January 15, 2022 12:57 PM (zSXVD)

234 LOL CAT. Perfect imitation of the commiecrat GAIA thinking.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 15, 2022 12:57 PM (3cGpq)

235 >>Chris Taylor pointed out this really is a "boomer" thing. You don't see younger generations churning out cheesy nostalgia by the truckload. But it's like as soon as that generation turned 35, it's just been decades of content celebrating their youth.

How many awful Harry Potter movies has the young generation turned out? Those pieces of dreck weren't made for grannie and gramps.

Not as much nostalgia for people who are too young to have much to look back on. Besides, many of them are still trying to deal with the deep intellectual challenges of which gender they are. Most of us older types have cracked that mystery already.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2022 12:57 PM (ZLI7S)

236 He kept HRC out of the Oval Office, if only temporarily.
For that alone, I am eternally grateful.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 15, 2022 12:57 PM (jTmQV)

237 Really = rarely

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 15, 2022 12:57 PM (3q554)

238 Undersea Volcano 40 mi off of tonga erupted and caused a tsunami as far away as san diego. Going to cover tonga in a couple inches of ash. All because trump pulled out of the paris accords.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2022 12:56 PM (F4b8f)
---------------
If only we'd passed net neutrality ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 15, 2022 12:57 PM (YqDXo)

239 My top 5 most overrated music acts...

Grateful Dead
Pink Floyd
Beatles
Springsteen
Clapton

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 15, 2022 12:57 PM (Vxu+H)

240 Chris Taylor pointed out this really is a "boomer" thing.

They are all racists and nostalgic for the pre civil rights era.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2022 12:57 PM (F4b8f)

241 He kept HRC out of the Oval Office, if only temporarily.
For that alone, I am eternally grateful.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 15, 2022 12:57 PM (jTmQV)

I can agree with that 110%. ( math)

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 15, 2022 12:58 PM (3q554)

242 Chris Taylor pointed out this really is a "boomer" thing. You don't see younger generations churning out cheesy nostalgia by the truckload.
------------------

They're too young yet.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 15, 2022 12:58 PM (YqDXo)

243 >>I do notice that most of the defense of Trump is that everything bad that happens is not his fault and everything good is only something Trump could have accomplished.


I liked that he was brash and shot from the lip at times- he made some mistakes to be sure, like trusting the wrong people

he certainly had the economy going pocketa pocketa pocketa-

Hell- most presidential elections I'm just casting a vote for the lesser of 2 evils anyway

Posted by: DB at January 15, 2022 12:59 PM (geLO8)

244 You can't view the rise of big government through the lens of today. You have no understanding of how few protections workers had against businesses and how few safety nets they had. The Depression made people desperate. And the federal government stepped in to provide aid that the states couldn't. Yes, I believe FDR prolonged the Depression and the expanse of the federal government was a power grab. But there is a lesson there.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at January 15, 2022 12:59 PM (YynYJ)

245 I understand wanting to have and control your own platform but I think it would be a lot more effective and useful to buy out or take over an existing, established one instead of starting yet another new

The problem isn't the politics, it's the medium.

There is something to this, but before 2017, all the social media platforms were wildly wide open and useful. They were the place the right could get our message out and bypass the legacy media which was becoming increasingly obsolete.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 15, 2022 12:59 PM (KZzsI)

246 I'm surprised no Michael Jackson or Prince movie yet,

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 15, 2022 12:59 PM (3q554)

247 Heroin is safe for daily use if you have a clean supply and don't IV it. People die of alcohol poisoning when they can't get properly-made stuff either.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 15, 2022 12:59 PM (KAi1n)

248 Outer Limits - The Architects of Fear

The basic plot to Moore's Watchmen comic. There was even a panel in the comic where you can see that episode on a tv, IIRC.

Completely changed (ruinously IMO) for the awful movie.

Posted by: mindful webworker - who watches the webworkers? at January 15, 2022 12:59 PM (ezfJA)

249 Nobody in my generation writes songs and makes movies about the 80s.

What is funny is, I view the 1950s now the same way I did as a kid in the 80s. "A long time ago".

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2022 01:00 PM (F4b8f)

250 230 Undersea Volcano 40 mi off of tonga erupted and caused a tsunami as far away as san diego. Going to cover tonga in a couple inches of ash. All because trump pulled out of the paris accords.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2022 12:56 PM (F4b8f)

Wait, you want me to dive down underwater, and THEN throw myself in?

Posted by: Joe at January 15, 2022 01:00 PM (oHd/0)

251 Prefer Workingman's Dead myself. And I have zero nostalgia for the Dead.

If we are getting volcanic ash inthe atmosphere, look for an unseasonable cold spell

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at January 15, 2022 01:02 PM (YynYJ)

252 I'm trying recall if I was one one the Morons who gloated five years ago, "Hillary will never be President."

If so, I'm going to need something to spread on those words when I eat them in 2024.

Posted by: creeper at January 15, 2022 01:02 PM (cTCuP)

253 He kept HRC out of the Oval Office, if only temporarily.
For that alone, I am eternally grateful.
Posted by: gourmand du jour


If only temporarily?? Brrrr. Remember the good old days of HRCWNBPOTUS?

Posted by: mindful webworker - who watches the webworkers? at January 15, 2022 01:03 PM (ezfJA)

254 People die of alcohol poisoning when they can't get properly-made stuff either.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 15, 2022 12:59 PM (KAi1n)

Yeah...in Shitcanistan. Not much methanol (or other alcohol) poisoning in America.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2022 01:03 PM (Q9lwr)

255 Anti is correct about the Nat'l Guard, Trump would have had to invoke the Insurrection Act to put down the riots as a Federal remedy.
Last time that happened was Pres. Eisenhower.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 15, 2022 01:03 PM (jTmQV)

256 She won't win creeper.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 15, 2022 01:03 PM (Vxu+H)

257 Many voted for Trump as the lesser of two evils. I don't recall our fearless leader Ace endorsing him because he thought he was a liberal Dem.

But then Trump upended the political landscape. DeSantis wouldn't be possible without this.

He's led to a rebranding of the R party if we only follow-through.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 15, 2022 01:03 PM (i0slg)

258 Whom would you recommend for AG if an R wins in 24?

Paxton if he is not Gov.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2022 01:03 PM (F4b8f)

259 "Local clubs' cash flow is greatly enhanced by codger reunion tours and, even worse, cover bands."
Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at January 15, 2022 12:41 PM (y7DUB)


Not my scene but nothing wrong with that. Around here 20 to 30 years ago there would be polka bands at the bars on Sunday afternoons, places were packed.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 15, 2022 01:03 PM (4thlk)

260 Or Jenna Ellis.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2022 01:04 PM (F4b8f)

261 Wait, you want me to dive down underwater, and THEN throw myself in?
Posted by: Joe at January 15, 2022 01:00 PM (oHd/0)

The only virgin part of Joe is his brain.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, resolved to lurking at January 15, 2022 01:04 PM (eGTCV)

262 Hillary's not in the best of health. She may not make it to 2024, but that's not something I'd want to bet on. Evil has a way of winning...

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 15, 2022 01:04 PM (BFigT)

263 >>My top 5 most overrated music acts...

Grateful Dead
Pink Floyd
Beatles
Springsteen
Clapton

Of the 5 only 1 did almost zero promotion and got almost none from radio or things like MTV. The Dead were unique because the following they generated was almost 100% organic and not the result of record labels.

Lots of people don't like their music but those that do love it. Or as Garcia said, We're like licorice. Not everybody likes licorice but those who do really like licorice.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2022 01:04 PM (ZLI7S)

264 Hillary Clinton will never be president of the United States.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 15, 2022 01:04 PM (KZzsI)

265 Yeah...in Shitcanistan. Not much methanol (or other alcohol) poisoning in America.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo

Not anymore. Happened a lot back when alc was constitutionally banned.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 15, 2022 01:04 PM (KAi1n)

266 I forgot they did an Elton John rise to fame movie not that long ago also.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 15, 2022 01:05 PM (4thlk)

267 But you missed my point, CBD, heroin, per se, is not a scourge. What is is an unreliable supply and bad choice of administration. (Disclaimer: I've never done heroin.)

Posted by: SFGoth at January 15, 2022 01:05 PM (KAi1n)

268 256 She won't win creeper.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 15, 2022 01:03 PM (Vxu+H)

Neither did Biden.

Posted by: creeper at January 15, 2022 01:06 PM (cTCuP)

269 Anti is correct about the Nat'l Guard, Trump would have had to invoke the Insurrection Act to put down the riots as a Federal remedy.
Last time that happened was Pres. Eisenhower.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 15, 2022 01:03 PM (jTmQV)

I think GH Bush did it in 1992 for LA riots.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 15, 2022 01:06 PM (3q554)

270 I do notice that most of the defense of Trump is that everything bad that happens is not his fault and everything good is only something Trump could have accomplished.

**

I think a lot of it is because people recognize that he had social media, the Democrats, hollywood, academia, every big city, etc. as well as his own party working against him, and he still accomplished what he did.

Imagine if people loved America instead of hated us. Because that was what hating Trump was. He is just the figurehead for what they felt about us.

Imagine where we could be today if they had worked with him.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - CDC releases COVID study proving masks don't do sh1t, literally not even 2% change at January 15, 2022 01:06 PM (jZJe9)

271 While I can't fault him for trying, the problem with VDH is that he thinks it's a bit past 9 PM when it's really about 23:58.

That level of introspection about what was going on and where we were headed was needed around the mid-60's or so. That very well may have been the point of peaceful no-return.

Posted by: somedood - skull mountain sherpa at January 15, 2022 01:06 PM (EI5xb)

272 I liked the Dead some, and the crowd made their live shows fun.

But to me they were an amplified jug band compared to the Allman Brothers and The Band.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 15, 2022 01:06 PM (i0slg)

273 252 Creeper
253 me
Horde mind - heh.

Hi, Creeper. Did I read you've been losing cats and are down to one?

😿

Posted by: mindful webworker - who watches the webworkers? at January 15, 2022 01:06 PM (ezfJA)

274 Imagine if people loved America instead of hated us. Because that was what hating Trump was. He is just the figurehead for what they felt about us.

Imagine where we could be today if they had worked with him.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - CDC releases COVID study proving masks don't do sh1t, literally not even 2% change at January 15, 2022 01:06 PM (jZJe9)




and that's just the Republicans.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 15, 2022 01:07 PM (nsnF6)

275 The Dead also didn't shit all over their fans and allowed unlimited taping so long as you weren't profiting from it.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 15, 2022 01:07 PM (KAi1n)

276 >>Hillary's not in the best of health. She may not make it to 2024



evil politicians seem to live to a ripe old age-
they're like vampires

Posted by: DB at January 15, 2022 01:07 PM (geLO8)

277 He kept HRC out of the Oval Office, if only temporarily.
**

And that's a big reason he has to be destroyed by the elites.

Hillary was supposed to be in charge during COVID. We're supposed to be a lot more like Australia right now. Trump / we f*cked that up.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - CDC releases COVID study proving masks don't do sh1t, literally not even 2% change at January 15, 2022 01:07 PM (jZJe9)

278 Hollywood has no new ideas. They can only rehash the glory days, make it woke, and fail miserably. There is no real creativity in Whoretown anymore.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 15, 2022 12:53 PM (Vxu+H)


The cost of production is too igh, the threat of burning your career is too high if you fail, and the cost of failure it too high, so no risks will be taken.
Small indy films are where to see something new, and that will require some new streaming services because the current distribution is geared to the big studios.

Corridor and Oakes studios are doing fantastic things, too bad what they are doing is creepy as f*ck

Portal live action short for fun

https://youtu.be/4drucg1A6Xk

Posted by: Kindltot at January 15, 2022 01:08 PM (ZMraq)

279 The problem with heroin is the inconsistency. Because it is black market, it is subjected to alterations and dealer backhanding. Even with a safe supply it is insanely addictive and ruins lives. Prohibition only makes things worse.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2022 01:08 PM (F4b8f)

280 Local clubs' cash flow is greatly enhanced by codger reunion tours and, even worse, cover bands.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at January 15, 2022 12:41 PM (y7DUB)

Jimmy Buffet nods. Then falls off the stage.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at January 15, 2022 01:08 PM (uhPTO)

281 If Trump had intervened in the count in the five big cheating cities, the Left would have instigated huge riots. Certainly the threat was there.

The public wasn't ready to understand what went on. Perhaps someday they will, maybe not. Developing ..

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 15, 2022 01:08 PM (i0slg)

282 But you missed my point, CBD, heroin, per se, is not a scourge. What is is an unreliable supply and bad choice of administration. (Disclaimer: I've never done heroin.)
Posted by: SFGoth at January 15, 2022 01:05 PM (KAi1n)

The longer you use heroin for recreation the more you have to use to get that initial high. Also the addiction probability is much higher than alcohol.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 15, 2022 01:09 PM (3q554)

283 10 Trump's won't. Not really.

They'll all adopt the language of the left to eliminate 'hate speech'.

Gab is the only real free speech platform.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at January 15, 2022 11:23 AM (7F9te)


Gab is corporate so there's still someone calling the shots. The only true free speech platform is a decentralized network that has no single owner or chain of command. Unfortunately, there are few such entities and the very nature of the problem means that they cannot function as a one-stop shop for everyone ala Facebook. PHPBB is probably the strongest contender since it drives a million little forums that most people don't know about.

Posted by: CppThis at January 15, 2022 01:09 PM (UewuT)

284 But you missed my point, CBD, heroin, per se, is not a scourge. What is is an unreliable supply and bad choice of administration.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 15, 2022 01:05 PM (KAi1n)

Heroin is absolutely a scourge. The idea that anyone can use it responsibly is insane. Sure, there are a few people who can, but the vast majority of heroin users get into trouble very quickly...

The 99% of addicts give the 1% responsible users a bad name.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2022 01:10 PM (Q9lwr)

285 I thought a Bob Hope biopic would be good-


but that's probably due to my advanced age- not too many people remember Bob Hope- not enough to make a movie about him, anyway

Posted by: DB at January 15, 2022 01:10 PM (geLO8)

286 Thanks everyone.

Diogenes, glad to hear your guy is doing OK.Recovery is a bitch.

Posted by: Javems at January 15, 2022 01:10 PM (AmoqO)

287 I'd be up for a remake of "Topper".

Posted by: SFGoth at January 15, 2022 01:10 PM (KAi1n)

288 @279 Cutting it with super-strong fentanyl is a recipe for ODs.

My sis had an anesthesiologist colleague who dabbled and died. If he couldn't get the dosage right ...

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 15, 2022 01:10 PM (i0slg)

289 Hi, Creeper. Did I read you've been losing cats and are down to one?

Posted by: mindful webworker - who watches the webworkers? at January 15, 2022 01:06 PM (ezfJA)

'Morning, Mindful. Yes, you did. I lost three of four to an owl. Neighbor got a picture of it yesterday. Should be an easy target if I can spot it.

Posted by: creeper at January 15, 2022 01:11 PM (cTCuP)

290
When I was a teenager I read this glowing review of a Grateful Dead album written by a young female writer. She said, "Whoever you're with when you listen to this music, you want to hug them."

So I bought the 8 track (see how old I am) and listened to it, didn't like it but thought it had to be a 'chick' thing. First time I tried it out on a date she said, "I don't know what this is but I hate it."

No hug for me.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 15, 2022 01:11 PM (dQvv7)

291 I'm not convinced the COVID plague would have even happened if HRC was president.
Fauci said in 2017 that Trump would have to cope with a pandemic during his term. It was scripted out in advance.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 15, 2022 01:11 PM (jTmQV)

292 >>But to me they were an amplified jug band compared to the Allman Brothers and The Band.

Different styles of music to be sure. The Dead did have a lot of bluegrass influence primarily because Jerry loved it and played it a lot on the side. Old and in the Way is a great group with some excellent bluegrass musicians Like Vassar Clements, Peter Rowan and David Grisman.

Funny thing is they all liked and respected each other. I remember Jerry sat in with the Allman Brothers when they did a New Years Eve concert in SF way back when. I like all of them.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2022 01:11 PM (ZLI7S)

293 "Hillary's not in the best of health. She may not make it to 2024"
"evil politicians seem to live to a ripe old age-
they're like vampires"


We even had discussions on our side about who will replace Dick Cheney as VP because of his bad ticker. Still breathing and stabbing us in the back.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 15, 2022 01:11 PM (4thlk)

294 I have seen what the wide availability of percocet did to people. When the medical community had to crack down, they went to heroin and fentanyl. Or they started buying percocet off the streets, which is usually just pressed fentanyl. That is what got prince. And petty. And hoffman. And probably saget.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2022 01:11 PM (F4b8f)

295 I'm trying recall if I was one one the Morons who gloated five years ago, "Hillary will never be President."
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It's interesting: she's definitely warming up in the bullpen, which clearly indicates just how bad F. Joe Biden and Heels Up are perceived to be, even by the Reds.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 15, 2022 01:12 PM (YqDXo)

296 We even had discussions on our side about who will replace Dick Cheney as VP because of his bad ticker. Still breathing and stabbing us in the back.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 15, 2022 01:11 PM (4thlk)



In fairness, that was before he got Trayvon's heart.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 15, 2022 01:12 PM (nsnF6)

297 236 He kept HRC out of the Oval Office, if only temporarily.
For that alone, I am eternally grateful.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 15, 2022 12:57 PM (jTmQV)
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With his history and open support of HRC, and hobnobbing at Chelsea's bday party with Soros - I worried he'd be a male Hillary. His supporters rabid support and nasty invective toward all who questioned him was also a turnoff. I didn't vote for him in 2016.

By 2020, I was really frustrated at his miss-handling of BLM-Antifa and Covid, but he had done such a good job his first 3 years, that I enthusiastically voted for him in 2020.

He proved to me beyond a doubt that he loved America, even if he couldn't be bothered to understand how the system works.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 15, 2022 01:12 PM (VlI+9)

298 Think I'll go curl up on the couch and watch Shrek. That movie always makes me laugh.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at January 15, 2022 01:13 PM (Vxu+H)

299 The basic idea behind heroin is great! It just needs our patented distribution system and a network of dealers, er, I mean doctors to get it out on the street. What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: The Sackler family, aka House of Oxy at January 15, 2022 01:14 PM (UewuT)

300 Heroin is absolutely a scourge. The idea that anyone can use it responsibly is insane. Sure, there are a few people who can, but the vast majority of heroin users get into trouble very quickly...

The 99% of addicts give the 1% responsible users a bad name.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2022 01:10 PM (Q9lwr)
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Now do meth.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 15, 2022 01:14 PM (YqDXo)

301 OTOH, when you get bad weed, it's oregano. But probably not organic.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 15, 2022 01:14 PM (KAi1n)

302 Now do meth.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 15, 2022 01:14 PM (YqDXo)

Don't start me on the Nazis again.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 15, 2022 01:15 PM (3q554)

303 I think we can all agree that we need at least a dozen more Lady Di bio-pics.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 15, 2022 01:15 PM (4thlk)

304 The "YouTwitFace" joke was from either Craig Kilbourn or Craig Fergusson on their late-night show, back when late-night hosts were still trying to amuse their audience with actual humor instead of TwoMintuesHate and a cavalcade of uninspired nutshots.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 15, 2022 01:15 PM (6FeV1)

305 Rick Bragg wrote a book called The Most They Ever Had, about workers in a cotton mill in the 30s. There's a story about a problem with the electrical line, but they won't turn off the power to fix it, as it would shut down the mill. So they have a worker try to fix it and he gets electrocuted. His wife filed charges but the court ruled that the worker should have refused to do it. Of course, he would have lost his job if he'd done that. There were lots of reasons for restrictions we have now but our workplace would resemble China's without at least some of them.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at January 15, 2022 01:16 PM (YynYJ)

306 Last night's ONT was a WW2 orgasm-fest.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 15, 2022 01:16 PM (KAi1n)

307 I still believe trump was supposed to be a spoiler, but someone got to him in Aug of 2016 and made him see the light. It seemed like a switch flipped and he went from taking attention off of hrc every time a new scandal broke, to attacking and winning. Maybe someone clued him in to what the FIB was doing. Maybe he saw what the left had planned once the fab was in office. I don't know. But something lit a fire in him.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2022 01:16 PM (F4b8f)

308 303 I think we can all agree that we need at least a dozen more Lady Di bio-pics.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 15, 2022 01:15 PM (4thlk)

"Di Di, My Darling"

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 15, 2022 01:16 PM (6FeV1)

309 One thing is for sure, YouTwitFace is making good tax and carbon credits today; their windmills are enjoying > 40mph winds and customers keeping their homes warm.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 01:16 PM (lSG6C)

310 I think many Democrats see vote fraud coming and want in on the action

Posted by: Skip's Phone at January 15, 2022 01:16 PM (2JoB8)

311 Trump is having a rally today in AZ. Please keep he and the speakers and everybody who is protecting he and the speakers in prayer. I'm not convinced that Antifa or "the marching Ray ban sunglass wearers" are not going to disrupt it. This is the way Yahoo describes this rally: "Trump to share the stage with election deniers." MSM doing its thing.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at January 15, 2022 01:17 PM (k49Sx)

312 Bumper sticker's being printed now:

She's Pissed Off
She's Drunk as Hell
She's Ready to Lead

Hillary 2024

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at January 15, 2022 01:17 PM (sJHOI)

313 What we are seeing now is exactly what would have been done to us in 2017, had HRC been elected.
Criminalization of political opposition, even more egregious deep state manipulation of the news, et al. with or without covid.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 15, 2022 01:17 PM (jTmQV)

314 Yeah...in Shitcanistan. Not much methanol (or other alcohol) poisoning in America.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2022 01:03 PM (Q9lwr)


There was during Prohibition. Maybe some parallel could be drawn there.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 15, 2022 01:17 PM (ZMraq)

315 Think I'll go curl up on the couch and watch Shrek. That movie always makes me laugh.
Posted by: Madamemayhem

It's the farting, amirite?

Posted by: Tonypete at January 15, 2022 01:17 PM (mD/uy)

316 First time I tried it out on a date she said, "I don't know what this is but I hate it."

No hug for me.
Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 15, 2022 01:11 PM (dQvv7)

Should'a went with the Fogelberg.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 15, 2022 01:17 PM (6FeV1)

317 Maybe because I'm not tech savvy I never understood why a conservative didn't purchase the MySpace tech and set up as a competitor to Facebook.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 15, 2022 01:18 PM (3q554)

318 Last night's ONT was a WW2 orgasm-fest.
Posted by: SFGoth

I got some learning slapped onto me. Nice!

Posted by: Tonypete at January 15, 2022 01:18 PM (mD/uy)

319 The Trump rally is at 7pm, MST, 9pm EST.

https://thedeskofdonaldtrump.com/rally-in-arizona/

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 15, 2022 01:18 PM (smVBh)

320 The 99% of addicts give the 1% responsible users a bad name.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2022 01:10 PM (Q9lwr)
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Now do meth.


Don't you want your trucked in deliveries made on time?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 01:18 PM (lSG6C)

321 309 One thing is for sure, YouTwitFace is making good tax and carbon credits today; their windmills are enjoying > 40mph winds and customers keeping their homes warm.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 01:16 PM (lSG6C)

Don't they shut them down in high winds?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 15, 2022 01:18 PM (6FeV1)

322 Trump woke up non-college whites who wouldn't turn out for Romney. He made gains with hispanics and black males. There's a majority coalition there.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 15, 2022 01:18 PM (i0slg)

323 297 By 2020, I was really frustrated at his miss-handling of BLM-Antifa and Covid, but he had done such a good job his first 3 years, that I enthusiastically voted for him in 2020.

He proved to me beyond a doubt that he loved America, even if he couldn't be bothered to understand how the system works.
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 15, 2022 01:12 PM (VlI+9)


I protest voted for Trump in 2016 but was likewise satisfied enough with his performance that I earnestly voted for him in 2020 as well as for a number of Trump-aligned R's in the interim. Agreed that he horribly botched Covid, which truth be told is probably what cost the guy his second term.

Probably the only president in my millennial lifetime that was actively working in my best interests and actually solving some problems.

Posted by: CppThis at January 15, 2022 01:19 PM (UewuT)

324 The only true free speech platform is a decentralized network that has no single owner or chain of command.
Posted by: CppThis at January 15, 2022 01:09 PM (UewuT)
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A beneficent dictatorship works fine, with a competent dictator - right up to the moment he's no longer in charge.

Perfect is the enemy of good. Gab, like America, is the worst in the world, except for all the rest.

Too many people can only think in logical fallacies, and so worry over guilt by association. Which is funny, because the Nazis on Gab could be your neighbors, but I don't see #conservative moral purists rushing to exit America.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 15, 2022 01:19 PM (VlI+9)

325 The Grateful Dead did suck ass but it gave hippies a chance to get together and smoke lots of weed, drop acid and follow the band around to their shows.

And play lots of hacky sack.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at January 15, 2022 01:19 PM (R/m4+)

326 By 2020, I was really frustrated at his miss-handling of BLM-Antifa and Covid
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I don't fault him for either one, frankly. He followed the "experts'" advice on Covid; if he hadn't, every death would have been hung around his neck. (Also recall that at the onset no one knew how bad Covid was going to be.) Firing Fauci would have led to howling about not following the experts' advice. So I give him a skip on that.

Re BLM-Antifa, Trump offered help, but the Red-infested cities declined it. The Reds wanted him to intervene so that they could blame him for the riots, but he declined to tackle that tar baby, letting the Reds stew in the bed they just shat. Even Seattle - whose dyke mayor clearly wanted someone else to clean up her mess - eventually had to climb down from her "summer of love" horseshit and take steps against her political confreres.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 15, 2022 01:19 PM (YqDXo)

327 Maybe because I'm not tech savvy I never understood why a conservative didn't purchase the MySpace tech and set up as a competitor to Facebook.

Its because Facebook was the same sort of evil as MySpace. now Facebook is added a different kind of evil.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 01:19 PM (lSG6C)

328 There was during Prohibition. Maybe some parallel could be drawn there.
Posted by: Kindltot at January 15, 2022 01:17 PM (ZMraq)

The government intentionally poisoned industrial use alcohol so it couldn't be drinkable.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 15, 2022 01:20 PM (3q554)

329 You know full well the left gets a stiffy that lasts forever at the thought of putting Hillary in the White House. It's their version of slamming the door on Trump's four years. If Hillary is alive in 2024 they will shove her down our throats...finally.

Posted by: creeper at January 15, 2022 01:20 PM (cTCuP)

330 They're too young yet.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 15, 2022 12:58 PM (YqDXo)

Or devoid of heart and imagination.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 15, 2022 01:20 PM (H8QX8)

331 There weren't many 'overdose' alcohol poisoning but rather just bad hooch.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 15, 2022 01:21 PM (3q554)

332 The only true free speech platform is a decentralized network that has no single owner or chain of command.
Posted by: CppThis at January 15, 2022 01:09 PM (UewuT)


You should look into the SOLID specifications, it is the epidemy of decentralized data and information.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 01:21 PM (lSG6C)

333 Biden On His Own Presidency: "There's A Lot Of Talk About Disappointment"

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Also about dementia.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at January 15, 2022 01:21 PM (FVME7)

334 So only 1 % of people should be alive now.

I win again.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at January 15, 2022 01:21 PM (CNfmC)

335 I don't fault him for either one, frankly. He followed the "experts'" advice on Covid; if he hadn't, every death would have been hung around his neck.

Newsflash: Every death was hung around his neck.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 01:21 PM (lSG6C)

336 If Hillary is alive in 2024 they will shove her down our throats...finally.
Posted by: creeper at January 15, 2022 01:20 PM (cTCuP)

They have the means to do it. They've proved that.

Posted by: Ordinary American at January 15, 2022 01:22 PM (H8QX8)

337 Biden On His Own Presidency: "There's A Lot Of Talk About Disappointment"

-
Also about dementia.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at January 15, 2022 01:21 PM (FVME7)


and pedophilia

and Communism

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at January 15, 2022 01:22 PM (sJHOI)

338 Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 01:19 PM (lSG6C)

Not talking about reviving MySpace but using its proprietary tech to set up a conservative competitor to Facebook.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 15, 2022 01:23 PM (3q554)

339 Hillary's core base are old cat lady 60s feminists who are dying off by the day.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 15, 2022 01:24 PM (i0slg)

340 btw, I wasn't tired of winning yet.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 15, 2022 01:25 PM (smVBh)

341 Diogenes, glad to hear your guy is doing OK.Recovery is a bitch.
Posted by: Javems at January 15, 2022 01:10 PM (AmoqO)

Yeah.
He is lucky. Doc got in there and the damage wasn't as bad as they expected.
Prayers from the Horde helped, I've no doubt. Hopefully for you as well.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 15, 2022 01:25 PM (axyOa)

342 I lost three of four to an owl. Neighbor got a picture of it yesterday. Should be an easy target if I can spot it.
Posted by: creeper


That is awful. We've got owls and hawks to worry about (as well as four-footed predators), for our only two cats left. Can't confine them to the house, though.

BTW, you probably missed a comment I made a while back that MiladyJo made your Irish Cream recipe. Now we need more.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Let's Go St Brenden Irish Cream at January 15, 2022 01:26 PM (ezfJA)

343 306 Last night's ONT was a WW2 orgasm-fest.

Posted by: SFGoth at January 15, 2022 01:16 PM (KAi1n)

So sorry I missed that. mr. creeper didn't talk much about his war. I like hearing others' recollections.

Posted by: creeper at January 15, 2022 01:26 PM (cTCuP)

344 Don't they shut them down in high winds?

Apparently not (checking ERCOT data feed) - projected to crank out near record levels of power today.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 01:27 PM (lSG6C)

345 I am deep in WWII reading right now. I reposted a great story early on.
To see what our military once was and what it is now is tough on me.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 15, 2022 01:27 PM (jTmQV)

346 I did miss that comment re: Irish Cream, Mindful.

Isn't it amazing how quickly the bottle empties?

Posted by: creeper at January 15, 2022 01:27 PM (cTCuP)

347 eliminating all public schools and just providing funds to parents to provide schooling

~~~

Eliminate all gvt schools, yes.

Provide funds to parents, no.

Stop all taxes related to schools and let parents use that money. If parents don't have funds, charities can step in.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 15, 2022 01:28 PM (IDhUW)

348 2022 promises to be disaster for the Left. POTUS Puppeteer Ron Klain didn't deliver. Sinema/Manchin saved the Republic. Surprising heros no?

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 15, 2022 01:28 PM (i0slg)

349 He took money from the tariffs and gave some it to industries that were being punished by the Chinese in response to the tariffs but that's not picking winner and losers.

Lots of manufacturing jobs did come back to the US and more were on the way.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2022 12:41 PM (ZLI7S)
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I've worked in the steel manufacturing industry for 20+ years. It was my job to move machinery to other countries to eliminate unionism, and then move that machinery back 2 years later. "Manufacturing" is not monolithic. Sectors get outsourced and re-sourced all the time for a variety of reasons.

Tariffs are not paid by the Chinese. They are paid by you, the consumer. Tariffs are a tax on imports meant to 'encourage' you to buy local by making cheap imports less competitive.

From the birth of America up till 1913, the federal government subsisted mainly on tariffs applied to all imported goods. I'm all-in for this. It's fair (doesn't allow politicians to pick winners and losers) and it keeps the federal apparatus lean.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 15, 2022 01:28 PM (VlI+9)

350 Now do meth.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara


*******

I was told there would be no meth on this blog!

Posted by: Muldoon at January 15, 2022 01:29 PM (m45I2)

351 btw, I wasn't tired of winning yet.
Posted by: Been Lurking

Me either.

Posted by: Infidel at January 15, 2022 01:30 PM (qpolg)

352 We have owls, red tails, fox and coyote. Ossie the cat avoided them all. Then we brought him in the house and he got a blood clot in his aorta.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2022 01:30 PM (F4b8f)

353 Not talking about reviving MySpace but using its proprietary tech to set up a conservative competitor to Facebook.

I can't prove it in court, but there is plenty of evidence to link heavy amounts of dark money from the Feds into Facebook. Its kind of hard to go against a competitor who has guns, the courts, the regulators and the tax agencies as partners.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 01:30 PM (lSG6C)

354 Hillary's core base are old cat lady 60s feminists who are dying off by the day.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 15, 2022 01:24 PM (i0slg)
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Just tell them that nothing spreads Covid like voting.

Problem solved.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at January 15, 2022 01:31 PM (YqDXo)

355 We should have an elected board comprised of members of the public to oversee the schools and make sure they provide good education to our kids and spend school funds wisely.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2022 01:32 PM (F4b8f)

356
Wife just showed me a great new meme. A very angry looking Justice Thomas looking down from the bench saying, "My, my, Joe. It's been a long time."

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 15, 2022 01:32 PM (dQvv7)

357 Floral Nood

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 15, 2022 01:33 PM (nsnF6)

358 btw, I wasn't tired of winning yet.
Posted by: Been Lurking

Me either.
Posted by: Infidel at January 15, 2022 01:30 PM (qpolg)


we won some battles, but we're losing the war

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at January 15, 2022 01:33 PM (sJHOI)

359 Hillary's core base are old cat lady 60s feminists who are dying off by the day.
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 15, 2022 01:24 PM (i0slg)


Since when does death stop a dem from voting?

Posted by: Diogenes at January 15, 2022 01:33 PM (axyOa)

360 From the birth of America up till 1913, the federal government subsisted mainly on tariffs applied to all imported goods. I'm all-in for this. It's fair (doesn't allow politicians to pick winners and losers) and it keeps the federal apparatus lean.

Clearly you are not a student of the preconditions of the US Civil War. Lincoln and his cronies very much picked winners and losers through tariff policies.

Remember, other countries can levy tariffs too. That is where the horse trading takes place, and the South was sold down the river just like their slaves.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 01:33 PM (lSG6C)

361 "Last night's ONT was a WW2 orgasm-fest."

Missed it.

The guy behind Peaky Blinders will this year launch a six-parter about the original WWII SAS.

Founded by David Stirling, a Scottish heir to the Lairds, who's a fantastic figure. After he was captured, the unit was taken over by Paddy Mayne, who's even more unbelievable.

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 15, 2022 01:33 PM (i0slg)

362 Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at January 15, 2022 01:16 PM (YynYJ)

Read about the construction of the Hoover Dam and Golden Gate and Bay Bridges. Workers were expendable until they weren't . Necessity is the mother of invention and lot of safety rules came out of these big construction projects.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 15, 2022 01:34 PM (3q554)

363 If the voting process isn't cleaned up, the next "president" will be whoever TPTB set up.

Biden's voting bill, if passed, will ensure that the fraud is permanent.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 15, 2022 01:34 PM (IDhUW)

364 Clarence Thomas, to my knowledge, has never released a statement that says he respects Joe Biden or forgives him for Anita Hill.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2022 01:35 PM (F4b8f)

365 Since when does death stop a dem from voting?

Heh. Good point.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 15, 2022 01:35 PM (Xrfse)

366 Stop all taxes related to schools and let parents use that money. If parents don't have funds, charities can step in.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 15, 2022 01:28 PM (IDhUW)
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Amen!

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 15, 2022 01:36 PM (VlI+9)

367 If Trump had intervened in the count in the five big cheating cities, the Left would have instigated huge riots. Certainly the threat was there.

Oh no, not a riot in 2020! They only happened every week!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 15, 2022 01:36 PM (KZzsI)

368 I married two soldiers...one a vet from WWII and the other with a year in 'Nam.

The difference between the two of them was like night and day. The first one knew he had fought a just war and won. He was welcomed home with open arms. He never questioned his own manhood and went on to do the things he wanted.

The second hubby came home to screams of "Baby killer". There were no parades. There was no victory. He settled back into life as he knew it but always seemed to wonder just a little if maybe they were right.

Posted by: creeper at January 15, 2022 01:36 PM (cTCuP)

369 Not talking about reviving MySpace but using its proprietary tech to set up a conservative competitor to Facebook.

Unless they had patents to sell, the tech would likely be worthless because the code would be based on old, deprecated libraries that are riddled with security flaws, exploits, poor performance and reliance on old OS features.

Since then, there has been massive gains in noSQL databases, horizontal scaling, interconnections, pretty much everything in the DevOps world.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 01:37 PM (lSG6C)

370 Imagine if people loved America instead of hated us. Because that was what hating Trump was. He is just the figurehead for what they felt about us.

Imagine where we could be today if they had worked with him.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

That's why he said, they are not after me, they are after YOU!

Posted by: Infidel at January 15, 2022 01:37 PM (qpolg)

371 Isn't it amazing how quickly the bottle empties?
Posted by: creeper


Indeed! *hic* Indeedy!

See y'all on the Pet Thread. I have tails to tell.

Posted by: mindful webworker - cats & jammers at January 15, 2022 01:37 PM (ezfJA)

372 Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at January 15, 2022 01:10 PM (Q9lwr)

Most addictions are pretty bad, they screw up the benefit and risk calculations in search of the high. That is true for everything from alcohol to mixing meth and heroin.

We have had drugs scheduled since Wilson, and a war on drugs since Nixon, and IIRC the rate of addiction in the US has been fairly flat or increasing, no matter what the policies have been.
There is some work done on figuring the effect of prohibition and embargoes on the market, and it shows a trend to higher value and lower bulk items because of the need for moving it concealed. In the case of drugs and alcohol, it is the same, with higher potency as well.

The main purpose of this constellation of laws appears to be to legislate morality and enforce behavior, and the actual result is to give the state greater power to arrest, regulate and create pretexts to violate rights. In practice it also sets out a money tree for corruptable officials to shake, and in turn be compromised.
I am beginning to wonder if the upside is worth what we do to ourselves to guarantee it.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 15, 2022 01:38 PM (ZMraq)

373 We should have an elected board comprised of members of the public to oversee the schools and make sure they provide good education to our kids and spend school funds wisely.
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We could call it, hmm, a school board and it could be comprised of, let's see..., I know, Parents!

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 15, 2022 01:38 PM (IDhUW)

374 Now do meth.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

*******

I was told there would be no meth on this blog!
Posted by: Muldoon at January 15, 2022 01:29 PM (m45I2)
***

He's just mething around.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 15, 2022 01:40 PM (axyOa)

375 The government intentionally poisoned industrial use alcohol so it couldn't be drinkable.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 15, 2022 01:20 PM (3q554)


They still do to make sure untaxed fuel alcohol is not drunk. However, if you are not careful with your production and materials you can still distill methanol off your mash. This is one of the risks of using sugar cane bagasse to make cheap rum and grape pomace to make grappa.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 15, 2022 01:41 PM (ZMraq)

376 Thanks for the information on Nunes, KT!

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 15, 2022 01:43 PM (IDhUW)

377 The only true free speech platform is a decentralized network that has no single owner or chain of command.
Posted by: CppThis at January 15, 2022 01:09 PM (UewuT)


That is what Minds.com is supposed to be.

And Odyssee

Posted by: Kindltot at January 15, 2022 01:43 PM (ZMraq)

378 There weren't many 'overdose' alcohol poisoning but rather just bad hooch.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 15, 2022 01:21 PM (3q554)


Haha. Never lived in a Freshman dorm, did you?

Posted by: Kindltot at January 15, 2022 01:44 PM (ZMraq)

379 I get an error when I try to quote the guy, but here's the response:

Yes. I'm anti-big government. Yet, I am pro-government, because men are not angels. I'm not an anarchist, snd maybe that's what upsets you so.

Appropriate use of powers at the appropriate level. The Insurrection Act was an appropriate response to what was happening. It would be inappropriate for Missouri to invoke such an act against Oregon. Only the feds could do that.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 15, 2022 01:45 PM (VlI+9)

380 AmericanKestrel at January 15, 2022 01:43 PM

You're welcome. Since Nunes is almost local, we hear about some of the local blow-back he has gone through over the years.

Posted by: KT at January 15, 2022 01:45 PM (0ghg2)

381 The main purpose of this constellation of laws appears to be to legislate morality and enforce behavior, and the actual result is to give the state greater power to arrest, regulate and create pretexts to violate rights.

As a thought experiment: imagine if the same propaganda and MTP used in the past two years was aimed at fear of Fentanyl and Heroin rather than C19.

Murder, rape, fraud and robbery are also attempts to "legislate morality" so don't try to stigmatize it.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 01:46 PM (lSG6C)

382 Grampa likes grappa.

Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby at January 15, 2022 01:46 PM (Xrfse)

383 he main purpose of this constellation of laws appears to be to legislate morality and enforce behavior, and the actual result is to give the state greater power to arrest, regulate and create pretexts to violate rights. In practice it also sets out a money tree for corruptable officials to shake, and in turn be compromised.
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The statement above is why I would like to see decriminalization of drug use. Crimes against property and people should be prosecuted.

I'd also like to see sin taxes removed.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 15, 2022 01:47 PM (IDhUW)

384 We could call it, hmm, a school board and it could be comprised of, let's see..., I know, Parents!

Home Owner Associations are composed the same way.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 01:48 PM (lSG6C)

385 All of the analysis of how bad Trumped fucked up and how it cost him a second term overlook one little detail.

Trump won in 2020. Easily. His victory was stolen. Anyone who still think drooling Joe Biden got 81 million votes while campaigning in his basement is not being serious.

Name me one other Republican who could have not only withstood the non-stop onslaught he took for 3 years while producing the best economy in generations, record low unemployment, the most secure border in decades with a wall 90% complete despite getting no help from the GOP and constant obstruction from the left, no new wars and a record number of peace deals in the Middle East and still won reelection that was only stopped by massive cheating.

Cause I don't know a single one.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2022 01:49 PM (ZLI7S)

386 Nunes made it clear during the interview that Trump would be leaving his new media organization if he ran for president. I think he might have more fun in parts of the media organization (maybe during later development stages) than he would as president. He was on TV for a long time.

Posted by: KT at January 15, 2022 01:50 PM (0ghg2)

387 Clearly you are not a student of the preconditions of the US Civil War. Lincoln and his cronies very much picked winners and losers through tariff policies.

Remember, other countries can levy tariffs too. That is where the horse trading takes place, and the South was sold down the river just like their slaves.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 01:33 PM (lSG6C)
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Just had this stupid discussion the other day here. It saddens me to see apologists for Slavers lie or fumble-fuck their way through their ignorance of this Republic and how it works - again.

Yeah, politicians are always going to try to do shitty things with the system for their own benefit. Doesn't make it right, and it's extra sad that you think that corruption is "how things get done."

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 15, 2022 01:50 PM (VlI+9)

388
Murder, rape, fraud and robbery are also attempts to "legislate morality" so don't try to stigmatize it.
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These are crimes against a person and their property. It is a legitimate use of the law to prosecute these crimes.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 15, 2022 01:50 PM (IDhUW)

389 The statement above is why I would like to see decriminalization of drug use. Crimes against property and people should be prosecuted.

I'd also like to see sin taxes removed.


Ah, the lovely trainset in the basement where every inconvenient sin of man is removed so that it doesn't spoil Utopia.

Widespread use of opium sure worked wonders for China.

Also, ask Law Enforcement what is easier to remove criminal scum from the street - waiting for them to have a backseat full of stolen car radios only to have a good defense attorney plea it out, or put them away for time for possession?

It ain't perfect, but it also isn't your imaginary trainset in the basement either.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 01:52 PM (lSG6C)

390 Agreed that he horribly botched Covid, which truth be told is probably what cost the guy his second term.

Probably the only president in my millennial lifetime that was actively working in my best interests and actually solving some problems.
Posted by: CppThis at January 15, 2022 01:19 PM (UewuT)

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Fully agreed on both counts, except maybe Reagan, but I'm older than you.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 15, 2022 01:52 PM (VlI+9)

391 Left without comment.
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@DanCrenshawTX

Let's get some truth on the record: @Liz_Cheney has a hell of a lot more backbone than most, & is a principled leader with a fierce intellect. She will continue to be a much needed leader in the conference, with my full support.

We can disagree without tearing each other apart.

Posted by: Capital Eff at January 15, 2022 01:54 PM (GYllL)

392 These are crimes against a person and their property. It is a legitimate use of the law to prosecute these crimes.

So what do you tell a woman with her children when her husband spends all of the money on drugs and alcohol and can't keep a job?

Chesterton's Fence is your friend. See why the women of the Dry Crusade set their time and money to getting Prohibition enacted.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 01:55 PM (lSG6C)

393 Agreed that he horribly botched Covid, which truth be told is probably what cost the guy his second term
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His second term was stolen.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 15, 2022 01:56 PM (IDhUW)

394 @DanCrenshawTX

Let's get some truth on the record: @Liz_Cheney has a hell of a lot more backbone than most, & is a principled leader with a fierce intellect. She will continue to be a much needed leader in the conference, with my full support.

We can disagree without tearing each other apart.
Posted by: Capital Eff

That's a special kind of stupid.

Posted by: Infidel at January 15, 2022 01:57 PM (qpolg)

395 ...We can disagree without tearing each other apart.
Posted by: Capital Eff at January 15, 2022 01:54 PM (GYllL)

And i *can* balance a pint of water on my forehead while riding a unicycle.

I just don't want to.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 15, 2022 01:57 PM (6FeV1)

396 I still think that politically our eyes and minds should be focused on local and state elections instead of always looking toward DC to fix things.

Individual states will replace the "United States" as beacons of freedom.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 15, 2022 01:58 PM (Fs5vw)

397
Obviously, Dan Crenshaw and I don't see eye to eye about Liz Cheney.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 15, 2022 01:58 PM (dQvv7)

398 About "over-rated' bands, I like Workingman's Dead and American Beauty a lot and the odd-track here and there, but I can't really call myself a Dead fan because I don't care for their jams--which is what they are most noted for. But I respect them.

The thing with Clapton is he's built a nearly 60 year career based on what he did from 1966-1971 when he went from Mayall to Cream to Blind Faith to Derek and the Dominoes to his first solo album like he was changing socks.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 15, 2022 01:58 PM (mR6Gs)

399 Can't decide if I should put a pot roast in the crock pot or Buffalo Chicken Pasta.

Posted by: Infidel at January 15, 2022 01:59 PM (qpolg)

400 Dan Crenshaw is tone- deaf in addition to being half-blind.

And stupid

Posted by: JoeF. at January 15, 2022 02:00 PM (mR6Gs)

401 Also, ask Law Enforcement what is easier to remove criminal scum from the street - waiting for them to have a backseat full of stolen car radios only to have a good defense attorney plea it out, or put them away for time for possession?
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I have a strong desre for freedom. Yes, in my world, posession would not be a crime and theft would be. The LEOs and courts woyld need to work within that framework. If courts won't convict, then that is a separate problem that needs to be addressed.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 15, 2022 02:00 PM (IDhUW)

402 As a thought experiment: imagine if the same propaganda and MTP used in the past two years was aimed at fear of Fentanyl and Heroin rather than C19.
Murder, rape, fraud and robbery are also attempts to "legislate morality" so don't try to stigmatize it.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 01:46 PM (lSG6C)


well, for the first there would be some sort of witch hunt, and the corrupt politicians would lose a lot of spending money and influence, so I doubt it would go far.

Murder, rape, fraud and robbery are crimes against persons, in that they violate a person's rights, person and belongings (and a person's principal belonging is his self ownership and self determination) and is not a moral issue.
If you try to claim that taking someone's life or assaulting him is just a moral issue, then you are claiming that living is just legislative issue, or one governed by tradition and community consensus. And that will change over time and in the face of changing economic conditions and fads. Like wearing hats.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 15, 2022 02:01 PM (ZMraq)

403
So what do you tell a woman with her children when her husband spends all of the money on drugs and alcohol and can't keep a job?
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She has her freedom, the same as he does.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 15, 2022 02:02 PM (IDhUW)

404 I think it's still to early for Trump to do rallies.

He should wait until people are so sick of Biden and Harris and the economy that they'll be BEGGING him to run.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 15, 2022 02:02 PM (mR6Gs)

405 You know, i too long for the days when discourse is civil and arguments about policy are grounds in reality.

But those days ain't now. You don't play fetch with a rescue dog who still is trying to eat your face off. You may one day, but not right away. Being a mushmouthed simp like Crenshaw doesn't get anyone anything except invites to babble on someone's shitty podcast.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 15, 2022 02:03 PM (6FeV1)

406 he horribly botched Covid

I strongly agree on that, as well. If that could somehow be excluded from grading his presidency, I would give him a solid B+. Unfortunately, virtually everything he accomplished was nullified in a matter of weeks after the dubious ascension of the current junta.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 15, 2022 02:04 PM (Xrfse)

407
And i *can* balance a pint of water on my forehead while riding a unicycle.

I just don't want to.
~~~
What would it take for you to want to do this? It could be posted on the cafe thread.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 15, 2022 02:04 PM (IDhUW)

408 DanCrenshawTX

Let's get some truth on the record: @Liz_Cheney has a hell of a lot more backbone than most, & is a principled leader with a fierce intellect. She will continue to be a much needed leader in the conference, with my full support.


I look at this kind of thing the same way i looked at Palin's supportive statements about McCain. Deals were made and sometimes you just gotta bite your tongue and pay the bill.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 15, 2022 02:05 PM (axyOa)

409 @DanCrenshawTX

Let's get some truth on the record: @Liz_Cheney has a hell of a lot more backbone than most, & is a principled leader with a fierce intellect. She will continue to be a much needed leader in the conference, with my full support.

We can disagree without tearing each other apart.


Took like two terms for Crenshaw to turn full America Hating Communist? Has he been dating AOC?

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 02:05 PM (lSG6C)

410 And stupid

Mostly stupid.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 15, 2022 02:05 PM (Xrfse)

411 Punish crimes when they are committed. Theft. Family neglect. Etc. Social engineering by brickbat is no better than the assholes "saving the world" by dictatorship, like that Swedish idiot child.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at January 15, 2022 02:06 PM (6FeV1)

412 "The thing with Clapton is he's built a nearly 60 year career based on what he did from 1966-1971 when he went from Mayall to Cream to Blind Faith to Derek and the Dominoes to his first solo album like he was changing socks."
Posted by: JoeF. at January 15, 2022 01:58 PM (mR6Gs)

What? Maybe I'm misunderstanding you but he's one of the few old-timers that didn't rely on nostalgia to go on tour. He usually toured to promote and sell his current albums, very few songs from early years.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 15, 2022 02:07 PM (4thlk)

413 Can't decide if I should put a pot roast in the crock pot or Buffalo Chicken Pasta.

+1 on the pot roast. A winner, every time. IMO, anyway.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 15, 2022 02:07 PM (Xrfse)

414 Trump won in 2020. Easily. His victory was stolen. Anyone who still think drooling Joe Biden got 81 million votes while campaigning in his basement is not being serious.

Name me one other Republican who could have not only withstood the non-stop onslaught he took for 3 years while producing the best economy in generations, record low unemployment, the most secure border in decades with a wall 90% complete despite getting no help from the GOP and constant obstruction from the left, no new wars and a record number of peace deals in the Middle East and still won reelection that was only stopped by massive cheating.

Cause I don't know a single one.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 202

100 percent agree

And thats a very truncated list of his accomplishments

Posted by: LASue at January 15, 2022 02:08 PM (7uCN/)

415 Let's get some truth on the record: @Liz_Cheney has a hell of a lot more backbone than most, & is a principled leader with a fierce intellect. She will continue to be a much needed leader in the conference, with my full support.


I look at this kind of thing the same way i looked at Palin's supportive statements about McCain. Deals were made and sometimes you just gotta bite your tongue and pay the bill.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 15, 2022 02:05 PM (axyOa)

I understand what you are saying, but McCain--as much as a huge asshole as he was--was the standard bearer of the GOP when he ran for President with Palin as his VP.
Liz Cheney is a joke.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 15, 2022 02:08 PM (mR6Gs)

416 If tsunami hits san fransisco, it will be called a : "poo - nami"

Posted by: I am joe bidens inferiorty complex at January 15, 2022 02:08 PM (dmTnt)

417 I think it's still to early for Trump to do rallies.

He should wait until people are so sick of Biden and Harris and the economy that they'll be BEGGING him to run.
Posted by: JoeF. at January 15, 2022 02:02 PM (mR6Gs)
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Im good with an Arizona rally. This time of year the weather is mild and the turnout will be better. And he can set the narrative before Biden's presser next week and the eventual SOTU. He'll get the dems heads to explodin' and will be turning inside their decision cycle.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 15, 2022 02:09 PM (axyOa)

418 What? Maybe I'm misunderstanding you but he's one of the few old-timers that didn't rely on nostalgia to go on tour. He usually toured to promote and sell his current albums, very few songs from early years.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 15, 2022 02:07 PM (4thlk)

I like Clapton--I think his new album is great--but you can't deny that he's held in such high-regard because of what he put out between 66-71.
Yes he's recorded decent music since, and his Unplugged album was a massive hit, but he's a household name because of Mayall, Cream , Blind Faith and "Layla."

Posted by: JoeF. at January 15, 2022 02:11 PM (mR6Gs)

419 The last rally I watched, Trump was just reciting stuff he had said before.

He needs some new material. There should be plenty out there.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 15, 2022 02:12 PM (smVBh)

420 Soooo, CNN has a big interview with Stewart Rhodes ESTRANGED Wife, who has been cooperating with the DOJ and Jan 6 committee.

She says he is a crazy sociopath. Note, their divorce has been going on for THREE YEARS. It is full of 'I believe he could' quotes, even though she has no direct knowledge of any of the events in question.

Paging Judge Kavanaugh... Judge Kav to the White Courtesy phone...

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 15, 2022 02:13 PM (oHd/0)

421 Out inside my outbuilding, fireplace went out so had to restart pilot. Didn't get into the comments on ONT but saw most of Weird Dave's content. Up to Christmas on Enemy at the gate, cold out but not -30

Posted by: Skip's Phone at January 15, 2022 02:13 PM (/o13c)

422 Murder, rape, fraud and robbery are crimes against persons, in that they violate a person's rights, person and belongings (and a person's principal belonging is his self ownership and self determination) and is not a moral issue.

Who says that those are not moral issues? By what authority do you claim that these are not moral issues?

Who said that you own your self? What gave you the idea that you can assert self determination? I suppose you can just go ahead and pretend that you can, but the first strong man will beat you down and show you otherwise - and can justify their intent and actions on the same authority you extract yours.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 02:13 PM (lSG6C)

423 To me it looks like the Biden junta is spinning its wheels and trying to find some traction. It looks like they are thinking the race card will work. The voting bill is being framed as a racial issue and the police reform can be framed as a racial issue.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 15, 2022 02:13 PM (IDhUW)

424 I understand what you are saying, but McCain--as much as a huge asshole as he was--was the standard bearer of the GOP when he ran for President with Palin as his VP.
Liz Cheney is a joke.
Posted by: JoeF. at January 15, 2022 02:08 PM (mR6Gs


I don't disagree. She's an idiot. Cant stand her.
But I'm betting that somewhere early in Crenshaw's career he got some support. His comment was paying down that debt.
Or I'm wrong (not uncommon) and I'm just trying to see a silver lining.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 15, 2022 02:14 PM (axyOa)

425 Took like two terms for Crenshaw to turn full America Hating Communist? Has he been dating AOC?
Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 02:05 PM (lSG6C)

He better be careful if he is. She's likely to poke his other eye out with those huge nipples.....

Posted by: JoeF. at January 15, 2022 02:14 PM (mR6Gs)

426 I dont agree that Trump botched covid. He eased supply chain issues, got rid of red tape, made resources available for states that needed and requested them, got ventilators and hospital ships ready when it looked Like they were necessary and pushed different treatments including invermectim. He did not order lockdowns. He put in reasonable travel restrictions to protect us from more infection and tried to hold China accountable. And pence was supposed to be running the day to day What should he have done differently other than firing fauci (and could he even?)

Posted by: LASue at January 15, 2022 02:15 PM (7uCN/)

427 To me it looks like the Biden junta is spinning its wheels and trying to find some traction. It looks like they are thinking the race card will work. The voting bill is being framed as a racial issue and the police reform can be framed as a racial issue.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 15, 2022 02:13 PM (IDhU

The Race Card is ALL they have

Posted by: JoeF. at January 15, 2022 02:15 PM (mR6Gs)

428 Im good with an Arizona rally. This time of year the weather is mild and the turnout will be better. And he can set the narrative before Biden's presser next week and the eventual SOTU. He'll get the dems heads to explodin' and will be turning inside their decision cycle.
Posted by: Diogenes at January 15, 2022 02:09 PM (axyOa)

Just hope he doesn't talk too much about the Coof. He's on the losing side of that argument.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 15, 2022 02:16 PM (Fs5vw)

429 This guy just got suspended from the school he taught at due to calling his students "diseased vectors".

Funnily enough, he looks like another guy who harbors similar feelings towards humanity as a whole.

https://tinyurl.com/3k7jbaeu

Posted by: SMH at God's mercy at January 15, 2022 02:17 PM (a8b7P)

430 Can't decide if I should put a pot roast in the crock pot or Buffalo Chicken Pasta.
Posted by: Infidel at January 15, 2022 01:59 PM (qpolg)


I made a pot roast last night with potatoes, carrots, onions, dried tomatoes and sauerkraut.

I put in some left over canned hotsauce too. It was really good

Posted by: Kindltot at January 15, 2022 02:17 PM (ZMraq)

431 I dont agree that Trump botched covid. He eased supply chain issues, got rid of red tape, made resources available for states that needed and requested them, got ventilators and hospital ships ready when it looked Like they were necessary and pushed different treatments including invermectim. He did not order lockdowns. He put in reasonable travel restrictions to protect us from more infection and tried to hold China accountable. And pence was supposed to be running the day to day What should he have done differently other than firing fauci (and could he even?)
Posted by: LASue at January 15, 2022 02:15 PM (7uCN/)
I totally agree.
Trump did a fantastic job with something no one saw coming.
But the media was NEVER going to give him credit for any of it.

Posted by: JoeF. at January 15, 2022 02:18 PM (mR6Gs)

432
I'm trying to think of the different groups, who for very divergent reasons are opposed to mandatory vaccines. The media wish to portray us all knuckle-draggers. Let me start with 'my' group. Solid history in technology and the pitfalls of being an 'early adopter'. I've spent too many hours of my life trying to make something work which has hopelessly rushed to market. That's one group, which no doubt numbers in the tens of millions.

Second group, also probably numbering in the tens of millions, is women of childbearing age. Who can blame or vilify them for seeking the healthiest of offspring possible? The drug thalidomide may not be part of their thought process, but it should.

Third group is African-Americans who most certainly know of the Tuskegee syphilis experiment which is a true stain on our history. Once again tens of millions. These three groups (there are probably more) are going to get revenge on the left wing media and leftist politicians in November.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 15, 2022 02:18 PM (dQvv7)

433 >>And thats a very truncated list of his accomplishments

Just the other day the UAE invested $100 million in the Israeli tech community. When I was doing business in the UAE less than a decade ago you couldn't get a flight from the UAE to Israel.

There are all sorts of trade deals going on in the Middle East these days that all the experts told us were impossible just a few years ago. Countries that do trade deals are far less likely to go to war. That is one accomplishment that gets almost no acknowledgement because he proved virtually our entire foreign affairs and diplomatic community dead wrong.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2022 02:18 PM (ZLI7S)

434 Libertarian legalized drug supporters have a major narrative problem in my view. Addiction. You're going to have to do something about the fact that addiction is something that is accepted as true, it's just common knowledge.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 15, 2022 02:18 PM (4thlk)

435 WTF with Dan Crenshaw? Is he dating Pete Davidson now?

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at January 15, 2022 02:18 PM (cWPjN)

436 Took like two terms for Crenshaw to turn full America Hating Communist? Has he been dating AOC?
Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 02:05 PM (lSG6C)

Those of us who served longtime, know there are a LOT of Idiots in the military.

And they both seem to rise in rank fairly quickly, AND if in the shit, seem to get themselves and others wounded or killed.

Yes, there are people who get wounded doing Heroic stuff, but a lot of the time its either just wrong place wrong time, OR, you were an idiot.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 15, 2022 02:19 PM (oHd/0)

437 He'll get the dems heads to explodin' and will be turning inside their decision cycle.

Biden already killed Trump's rally by ordering the Enemedia and the rest of the participating members of the Ruling Class to censor any narrative not sanctioned by The State.

Trump's rally will be the tree falling in the proverbial uninhabited forest.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 02:19 PM (lSG6C)

438 Who said that you own your self? What gave you the idea that you can assert self determination? I suppose you can just go ahead and pretend that you can, but the first strong man will beat you down and show you otherwise - and can justify their intent and actions on the same authority you extract yours.
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I say I own myself (being a Christian, God owns me). God and the Constitution say I can assert self determination. I have the right to defend myself against a strong man. Why is the man attacking me anyway?

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 15, 2022 02:19 PM (IDhUW)

439 Hope DJT pounds Sundowner's economy, drops any Covid crap talk, and what Congress is trying to do making vote fraud universal.

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 02:20 PM (2JoB8)

440 Why is Brandon holding a press conference next Wednesday "breaking news"???
Posted by: lin-duh
It's a man bites dog story.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

Or a pants shit man story.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at January 15, 2022 02:20 PM (cWPjN)

441 Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 15, 2022 02:18 PM (dQvv7)

I've been trying to find stats on how many of us Gulf War era Vets... the ones who have gone through Gulf War Syndrome, got the Experimental Vaccine.

My guess is that level is probably the lowest of any other group.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 15, 2022 02:21 PM (oHd/0)

442 Bare Shelves Biden is working his magic here in town,

I give it till the middle of this week.

The shelves aren't quite empty yet but have plenty of large gaps for staples and in the meat dept.

Almost $50 for the fixings to make a pot of chili. Usually, around $25-30.

My lying brain tells me inflation is running out of control. My lying wallet too.

Thanks, Democrats!

Let's go, Brandon!

Posted by: naturalfake at January 15, 2022 02:21 PM (5NkmN)

443 The covid plague has its origins in politics.
But, don't take my word for it, just listen to what people like Bill Gates, Fauci, et al have been saying publicly, for years and years.
They have other and much more dangerous bio-products lined up as well, ready to release on us if need be, or, just for shits and giggles.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at January 15, 2022 02:24 PM (jTmQV)

444 "Yes he's recorded decent music since, and his Unplugged album was a massive hit, but he's a household name because of Mayall, Cream , Blind Faith and "Layla."
Posted by: JoeF. at January 15, 2022 02:11 PM (mR6Gs)

I don't know about that. I think he's one of those rare artists that has fans for his entire body of work. They didn't go to a concert on his Pilgram tour to hear his stuff from Blid Faith, you went to listen to everything. He can't help it if his early stuff was pretty darn good.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 15, 2022 02:24 PM (4thlk)

445 This guy just got suspended from the school he taught at due to calling his students "diseased vectors".
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We used to fondly call students " little petri dishes". I wouldn't now tho bc too many people are mentally ill and live in fear instead of freedom.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 15, 2022 02:24 PM (IDhUW)

446 Posted by: naturalfake at January 15, 2022 02:21 PM (5NkmN)

$14 for a Burger, Fries, and Shake at my local Jack in the Crack... last year that was less than $10.

7% inflation my Lilley White Ass.

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 15, 2022 02:24 PM (oHd/0)

447 https://dailytimewaster.blogspot.com/2022/01/
tonga-tsunami-coming-ashore-in-santa.html

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 02:25 PM (2JoB8)

448 Libertarian legalized drug supporters have a major narrative problem in my view. Addiction. You're going to have to do something about the fact that addiction is something that is accepted as true, it's just common knowledge.

My Small Government, Big L Libertarian friends (one that actually ran for political office on the L ticket) tell me that this legalizing Schedule I drugs (they never speak of legalizing prescription drugs) would be accompanied by taxing the product and the proceeds used to underwrite addiction recovery services.

yes, they want more taxes and more government in exchange for higher addiction rates and more catastrophes that seem to follow drug abuse.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 02:25 PM (lSG6C)

449 That's whole url, looks like flood waters

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 02:25 PM (2JoB8)

450 One thing that is truly amazing to me--and it would have been completely unlikely pre-Trump--is that NO ONE appears to be running FROM Joe Biden.
He has cratering poll numbers, people are starting to see how decrepit and out of touch and nasty he is, and he is losing court battles. The economy is crashing, and yet STILL he (his junta) controls the party, Democrat governors and mayors--and some corporations-- are still willing to do his bidding re: vaccine mandates and he still has the support of the news and entertainment media,
He's the very definition of a LOSER, and in the past, people would be RUNNING away from him.

But they're not

Posted by: JoeF. at January 15, 2022 02:26 PM (mR6Gs)

451 Let's go, Brandon!


Can't be said often enough.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 15, 2022 02:26 PM (IDhUW)

452 AmericanKestrel,

Funny. Just started reading "The Law of Self-Defense Principals" by Andrew Branca. I can defend myself from the beat-down of a strong man.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 15, 2022 02:26 PM (smVBh)

453
Biden already killed Trump's rally by ordering the Enemedia and the rest of the participating members of the Ruling Class to censor any narrative not sanctioned by The State.

Trump's rally will be the tree falling in the proverbial uninhabited forest.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 02:19 PM (lSG6C)


I think you're wrong on this. I think more people than we give credit have discovered alternate news on the internet.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 15, 2022 02:28 PM (Fs5vw)

454 $14 for Rat in the Box. Damn.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at January 15, 2022 02:29 PM (89T5c)

455 Addiction. You're going to have to do something about the fact that addiction is something that is accepted as true, it's just common knowledge.
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Addiction is tough. Families, friends, support groups, and charities.

No tax dollars.

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 15, 2022 02:29 PM (IDhUW)

456 $14 for a Burger, Fries, and Shake at my local Jack in the Crack... last year that was less than $10.

So I exploited my Business Plus Samsclub membership and came in on opening and headed to the meat market where I was delighted to find (and bought) six thick slabs of USDA Prime rib eye steaks at a significant discount making them the priced between Select and Choice.

I converted one steak into fajitas and made four monster fajitas that fed two hungry people for $15. Tell me where I can go and get USDA Prime Ribeye fajitas for two for that price.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 02:29 PM (lSG6C)

457 "My Small Government, Big L Libertarian friends (one that actually ran for political office on the L ticket) tell me that this legalizing Schedule I drugs (they never speak of legalizing prescription drugs) would be accompanied by taxing the product and the proceeds used to underwrite addiction recovery services.
yes, they want more taxes and more government in exchange for higher addiction rates and more catastrophes that seem to follow drug abuse."
Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 02:25 PM (lSG6C)

That's always their argument when it comes to it, more government funded and provided treatment. They should be saying they question the whole concept of addiction, that maybe drugs aren't addictive and it's just an excuse for a lack of willpower. That would be the free will argument.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 15, 2022 02:32 PM (4thlk)

458 >>But they're not

Stacey Abrams did. The queen of "voting rights" was mysteriously unavailable when Biden went to GA to yell about voting rights.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2022 02:32 PM (ZLI7S)

459
That is one accomplishment that gets almost no acknowledgement because he proved virtually our entire foreign affairs and diplomatic community dead wrong.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2022 02:18 PM


When Trump got all those 57 countries of the OIC (minus two) in one room early in his Presidency it actually sent shivers up my spine. What an amazing accomplishment that our left wing media ignored. He talked they listened, we had peace. Except for the two hold outs, the OIC was united.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 15, 2022 02:33 PM (dQvv7)

460 Thanks for the conversation.

Peace

Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 15, 2022 02:34 PM (IDhUW)

461 I think you're wrong on this. I think more people than we give credit have discovered alternate news on the internet.
Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at January 15, 2022 02:28 PM (Fs5vw)


I hope to God that I am wrong on this. And that really is where I am these days.

I remember back in the 90s when many people, devout and sincere people of faith would form prayer teams to petition to keep Billy Jeff Clinton out of office. God had other plans.

God also called the most despotic ruler ever to inhabit the earth, Nebuchadnezzar, "My servant". Plenty of passages in Scripture reveal who defines borders and raises leaders.

I give up and giving God advice; I'm now just watching to see how it plays out.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 02:35 PM (lSG6C)

462 "Addiction is tough. Families, friends, support groups, and charities. No tax dollars."
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 15, 2022 02:29 PM (IDhUW)

See even you believe it's a real thing. You would better off attacking the whole concept of it. Is it a real thing or not?

Posted by: lowandslow at January 15, 2022 02:35 PM (4thlk)

463 I find it just adorable when Simple Joe sits at his little mock-up of the Oval Office and does his cosplay as the POTUS.

Next, we need a space for a little mock-up of the bat cave so he can pretend to be Bruce Wayne.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at January 15, 2022 02:38 PM (6liew)

464 I have a strong desre for freedom. Yes, in my world, posession would not be a crime and theft would be. The LEOs and courts woyld need to work within that framework. If courts won't convict, then that is a separate problem that needs to be addressed.
Posted by: AmericanKestrel at January 15, 2022 02:00 PM (IDhUW)

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God bless you. I remember growing up hearing "It is better that 10 guilty men go free than for 1 innocent man to go to prison. "

#conservatives cry out for a Police State and call it Law & Order.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 15, 2022 02:38 PM (VlI+9)

465 I'm coming to believe that rectifying our present situation will require Trump back in power PLUS martial law. I don't see the left acquiescing to change without.

Key to that is finding officers that can be trusted to remain loyal to the oath they swore. Extreme care needs be taken here.

Posted by: irongrampa at January 15, 2022 02:39 PM (KATBx)

466 Who said that you own your self? What gave you the idea that you can assert self determination? I suppose you can just go ahead and pretend that you can, but the first strong man will beat you down and show you otherwise - and can justify their intent and actions on the same authority you extract yours. Posted by: Reuben Hick

"I can beat you until you consent to anything I demand" is a valid ruling strategy, it is what is used in North Korea, for example. To make it work beyond an individual basis requires enough people to dominate the rest, and a method to make sure the dominating class doesn't t try to prey on each other.

I think you are saying that custom and morality guarantee individual rights, but you haven't addressed where the customs and morality come from other than, I guess, long practice and customary use.
You can go with that, or you can ask "why is this custom to believe this way and why is it moral" and ask what is being served by all this.
Custom and Morality are poor things to base a belief system on since both have changed since our grandfathers were born, and those are the very things the Progressives attack

Posted by: Kindltot at January 15, 2022 02:39 PM (ZMraq)

467 He's the very definition of a LOSER, and in the past, people would be RUNNING away from him.
But they're not
Posted by: JoeF

Problem is, he is succeeding at accelerating the commie takeover of America, and these are all side effects of the shit omelette he and the Kalorama Kock Kraver are cooking up for us. There are evidently more fellow travellers than we realized.

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at January 15, 2022 02:39 PM (cWPjN)

468 Stacey Abrams did. The queen of "voting rights" was mysteriously unavailable when Biden went to GA to yell about voting rights.
Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2022 02:32 PM (ZLI7S)

Good point

Is she the canary in the coalmine?

Posted by: JoeF. at January 15, 2022 02:40 PM (mR6Gs)

469 His supporters rabid support and nasty invective toward all who questioned him was also a turnoff. I didn't vote for him in 2016.
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Questioned him, my ass. His supporters endured as much as or actually more rabid invective for the crime of seeing what he was capable of. When they gave it back, it was uncouth, unbecoming and uncalled for. And apparently ruining everything.

Much like when conservatives dare to fight back against the rabid, vile Left. Please fucking save it. No one is an angel during primary season.

Posted by: ... at January 15, 2022 02:41 PM (ZpC60)

470 >>>To me it looks like the Biden junta is spinning its wheels and trying to find some traction. It looks like they are thinking the race card will work. The voting bill is being framed as a racial issue and the police reform can be framed as a racial issue.

The voting rights thing is just silly.
Minority-majority areas have 250% voter turnout. Often times more than the entire population of the area. And they usually overwhelmingly vote "D".

Do they really want to debate this and objectively assess the appearance of systemic election fraud?

Of course not. Just fortifying the coup.

Posted by: Phuk Ho Le at January 15, 2022 02:41 PM (BeG0a)

471 I find it just adorable when Simple Joe sits at his little mock-up of the Oval Office and does his cosplay as the POTUS.

This is a dumb question, given the infrequency of any Simple Joe Ex Cathedra edicts - why mock up an Oval Office when there is a genuine one already Good To Go? It isn't like they have to schedule in reservations to use it, and it isn't like Simple Joe is occupying it so much that there is no time to bring in the kleig lights and the cameras

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 02:41 PM (lSG6C)

472 I think every Democrat/Marxist sees Sundowner is a anchor on their ambition

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 02:43 PM (2JoB8)

473 432
I'm trying to think of the different groups, who for very divergent reasons are opposed to mandatory vaccines.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 15, 2022 02:18 PM (dQvv7)

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You missed my group. I'm in the group of people who has all his childhood vaccines and whose 3 children got all their childhood vaccines, but is taking the perspective of, "FUCK YOU. I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME."

That's my sole reasoning at this point.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 15, 2022 02:45 PM (VlI+9)

474 >>Good point

>>Is she the canary in the coalmine?

Losing the voting battle was the last big piece of his agenda so I suspect that we will see some attrition going forward.

I'm sure that he will still have some play in deep blue states but I won't be surprised if politicians in purple or red states avoid him like the plague as they try to hang on to their seats. Look at how much he helped McCauliffe in Virginia where Youngkin was just sworn in today.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2022 02:45 PM (ZLI7S)

475 "This is a dumb question, given the infrequency of any Simple Joe Ex Cathedra edicts - why mock up an Oval Office when there is a genuine one already Good To Go? It isn't like they have to schedule in reservations to use it, and it isn't like Simple Joe is occupying it so much that there is no time to bring in the kleig lights and the cameras"
Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 02:41 PM (lSG6C)

I would make up an excuse if I was them. "It's takes up too much time and it's too disruptive to set up cameras in the White House so we are doing it this way." Or something. The whole thing is just weird.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 15, 2022 02:48 PM (4thlk)

476 Custom and Morality are poor things to base a belief system on since both have changed since our grandfathers were born, and those are the very things the Progressives attack

Morality is traditionally understood to be a transcendent value system. Otherwise it would just be a synonym for "values". Morality therefore must have an immutable origin and easily discernable provenance - otherwise it is just Customs and Values.

It doesn't serve any purpose to deconstruct the word "Morality" so that it loses its punch in the very profound understanding that you and I, nor anyone else has the authority to change or define it - only to recognize and abide with it.

This is why the redefinition of "Marriage" is an obscenity since a handful of people, including black robed pagans, took a look at an institution that is clearly transcendent, that is, observed relatively unmolested for the entire expanse of recorded human history in every culture, tribe and land, and declared by simple fiat that it no longer means what it has meant for millennia.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 02:48 PM (lSG6C)

477 @jason_meister

Governor Youngkin's Day 1 executive orders include:

Rescind vaccine mandate for state employees
Rescind mask mandate for children in schools
Ending Critical Race Theory in schools
Investigate wrongdoing in Loudoun County
Fire parole board

THIS IS THE WAY.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2022 02:51 PM (ZLI7S)

478 Libertarian legalized drug supporters have a major narrative problem in my view. Addiction. You're going to have to do something about the fact that addiction is something that is accepted as true, it's just common knowledge.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 15, 2022 02:18 PM (4thlk)


Outlawing drugs has not worked to date, and it has enabled things like Civil Asset Forfeiture. It has not ended addiction and appears to have increased it.

I am not willing to support a drive to try twice as hard, because there is no evidence that that will work either. It sure won't make me or you more free.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 15, 2022 02:52 PM (ZMraq)

479 434 Libertarian legalized drug supporters have a major narrative problem in my view. Addiction. You're going to have to do something about the fact that addiction is something that is accepted as true, it's just common knowledge.
Posted by: lowandslow at January 15, 2022 02:18 PM (4thlk)
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I'm not a Libertarian, but I support treating adults like adults.

Are smokers addicted to nicotine? Why don't we arrest them?
Are 400 lb fatties addicted to food? Alcoholics? Reinstate Prohibition? Chemical castration for sex addicts?

Is there any human weakness or character flaw for which you wouldn't support incarceration and government persecution?

Why do "I" or "You" or We" HAVE to do something about the personal decisions of other adults? From my perspective, the only thing we have to do is arrest people when their behavior crosses the line to violate the rights of others. Otherwise, you are arguing to give government the right to tell us how to live our lives "for our own good". I presume you are in full support of the Jab Mandate, right?

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 15, 2022 02:52 PM (VlI+9)

480 I would make up an excuse if I was them. "It's takes up too much time and it's too disruptive to set up cameras in the White House so we are doing it this way." Or something. The whole thing is just weird.

Technology. (sigh)

Maybe they should go back to the five hundred pound cameras and the carbon arc lights during the previous eight presidencies that routinely had televised Oval Office appearances.

Alternatively, they should get the rugged and edgy videographers who make commercial quality videos in the midst of riots, insurrections and "mostly peaceful protests". Will give the junta authentic street cred.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 02:54 PM (lSG6C)

481 My Small Government, Big L Libertarian friends (one that actually ran for political office on the L ticket) tell me that this legalizing Schedule I drugs (they never speak of legalizing prescription drugs) would be accompanied by taxing the product and the proceeds used to underwrite addiction recovery services.
yes, they want more taxes and more government in exchange for higher addiction rates and more catastrophes that seem to follow drug abuse.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 02:25 PM (lSG6C)


Well, Dan Crenshaw is a conservative too.

Posted by: Kindltot at January 15, 2022 02:54 PM (ZMraq)

482 Rescind vaccine mandate for state employees
Rescind mask mandate for children in schools
Ending Critical Race Theory in schools
Investigate wrongdoing in Loudoun County
Fire parole board

THIS IS THE WAY.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2022 02:51 PM (ZLI7S)

Promising start.

Posted by: ... at January 15, 2022 02:56 PM (ZpC60)

483 >>>I would make up an excuse if I was them. "It's takes up too much time and it's too disruptive to set up cameras in the White House so we are doing it this way." Or something.

>Dr. Jill is pimping out the Oval Office for five large a night and she doesn't want Simple Joe to be fouling up the place with his old man stench.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at January 15, 2022 02:56 PM (6liew)

484 A phony Oval Office is the perfect metaphor for a phony president. It fits Biden to a tee.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 15, 2022 02:58 PM (VxC1e)

485 You missed my group. I'm in the group of people who has all his childhood vaccines and whose 3 children got all their childhood vaccines, but is taking the perspective of, "FUCK YOU. I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME."

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And there are now a lot more of us "wait, what do you mean ALL vaccines and the vast majority of medications are based on abortions?"

Posted by: Moron Robbie - no significant difference in ability to spread or catch regardless of vax status at January 15, 2022 02:59 PM (ia41K)

486 "It is better that 10 guilty men go free than for 1 innocent man to go to prison. "


Three, tops.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 15, 2022 03:00 PM (yQpMk)

487 I support keeping illegal drugs illegal because they enslave the mind (and in some cases body), and slavery is illegal. Disincentives for behavior that destroys lives and societies are an unfortunate good.

Yes it's a very sticky wicket, and one which some find useful to beat others up for not being "consistent" in their beliefs.

We know what they say about consistency and minds.

Posted by: ... at January 15, 2022 03:00 PM (ZpC60)

488 I suppose that anyone who feels that the frenzied blitzkrieg (which included Warp Speed) to foist upon us a dubious "vaccine" solution as the remedy for the Wu and its accompanying hysteria would disagree with me on PDT's handling of the the scourge. From my point of view, the vax has been a disaster, possibly more so socially than medically and the jury is certainly still out on the later. We shall see.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 15, 2022 03:00 PM (Xrfse)

489 I am really torn on the drug issue. Legalized drugs would end the black market smuggling that fuels violence at the southern border. It would make the supply safer as it could be manufactured and sold in known doses with reputable manufacturers.
On the other hand, i think the dangers of acquiring illicit drugs, the stigma of illegality, and dirty sourcing keeps alot of people away from drugs who would be more likely to try them and get addicted if they could get them from a "dispensary".

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2022 03:01 PM (F4b8f)

490 would make up an excuse if I was them. "It's takes up too much time and it's too disruptive to set up cameras in the White House so we are doing it this way." Or something. The whole thing is just weird.


*

It's 2022. You need a couple of decent lights and a $1200 Canon SLR.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - no significant difference in ability to spread or catch regardless of vax status at January 15, 2022 03:01 PM (ia41K)

491 "It is better that 10 guilty men go free than for 1 innocent man to go to prison. "

That there is pure bullshit.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 15, 2022 03:01 PM (smVBh)

492 I'm pretty sure we had a week of Kellyanne Conway Put Her Feet on the Couch global crisis, did we not? Oh how I long for the days when that was all that mattered.

Posted by: ... at January 15, 2022 03:01 PM (ZpC60)

493 Why do "I" or "You" or We" HAVE to do something about the personal decisions of other adults?

Because you are not God and have no authority to impose your vision on all of humanity. Think about the philosophical musings on theodicy. Are you willing to take that on for yourself?

First of all, it is clear that you don't value second or third order effects. In your statement every vice is committed on an otherwise deserted island. Show me I'm wrong.

Second, there is a large community of people who can and will argue that they are somehow their Brother's Keeper. This is the motivation of the Nanny State. As much as you want to leave people alone, they want to intervene even more. So how do you tell them that their value system is null and void and they should not exercise their vision because yours prevails on your own authority?

[Pixy Limit]

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 03:02 PM (lSG6C)

494 END OF THREAD, Last call for comments

( PET NOOD)

Posted by: Skip guy who says NOOD at January 15, 2022 03:02 PM (2JoB8)

495 We know what they say about consistency and minds.
Posted by: ... at January 15, 2022 03:00 PM (ZpC60

Foolish consistency. Nothing wrong with consistency.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 15, 2022 03:02 PM (3q554)

496
You missed my group. I'm in the group of people who has all his childhood vaccines and whose 3 children got all their childhood vaccines, but is taking the perspective of, "FUCK YOU. I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME."

That's my sole reasoning at this point.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 15, 2022 02:45 PM


It's part of a temper tantrum them. I'd rather you explained that all the vaccines you yourself took, and subjected your children to underwent strenuous testing and used weakened versions of the actual viral material, then underwent testing on animals, were then tested on a small group, then larger and ultimately were worthy of mass dissemination.

The left wing media would love nothing better than to portray temper tantrums as the cause of vaccine reluctance.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 15, 2022 03:03 PM (dQvv7)

497 Agreed that he horribly botched Covid, which truth be told is probably what cost the guy his second term.
Posted by: CppThis


What should he have done? Be hyper-specific.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 15, 2022 03:03 PM (zWpOF)

498 Someone's morals are going to be imposed. It seems that the questions really are Whose and how is that determined? and How far do they reach?

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 15, 2022 03:03 PM (yQpMk)

499 Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2022 03:01 PM (F4b8f)

Has legalizing weed stopped the street market?

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 15, 2022 03:04 PM (3q554)

500 I'm pretty sure we had a week of Kellyanne Conway Put Her Feet on the Couch global crisis, did we not? Oh how I long for the days when that was all that mattered.

Every incoming administration gets to decorate the Oval Office to their liking, including the furniture. I think it would be Master Level Trolling if Kellyanne Conway inherited The Couch and it is featured in her home.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 03:04 PM (lSG6C)

501 I am not taking the vaccine because it is a new class of medication, and I don't trust it until it has been through years of safety trials. Giving it to millions of people at large and proclaiming it to be safe is not a safety trial, especially when ill effects are delayed, and their reporting is discouraged. I think that, based on what we know for sure, the vaccine would have been pulled from the market months ago in normal times.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2022 03:04 PM (F4b8f)

502 It's weird how it almost seems like the 10th Amendment was there for a reason.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - no significant difference in ability to spread or catch regardless of vax status at January 15, 2022 03:05 PM (ia41K)

503 The idea of convicting the innocent is still atrociously more vile than the idea of setting the guilty free. And I'm pretty big on punishing the guilty.

How many guilty men would you see set free before you volunteer to be the innocent man convicted in their place?

Posted by: ... at January 15, 2022 03:05 PM (ZpC60)

504 "Is there any human weakness or character flaw for which you wouldn't support incarceration and government persecution?"
Posted by: insurgens ad opus at January 15, 2022 02:52 PM (VlI+9)

Nobody's making that argument. C'mon man.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 15, 2022 03:05 PM (4thlk)

505 Has legalizing weed stopped the street market?
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter

I don't know. Probably? Most states still require a prescription. So there is still a barrier to purchase.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2022 03:06 PM (F4b8f)

506 Has legalizing weed stopped the street market?

So you are a cop in a state that recognizes legal weed and you stop someone and discover a bag of dope. How do you know it is street weed or if it is the far more expensive and taxed retail weed?

This sure removes an impediment to unlicensed street dealers.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 03:07 PM (lSG6C)

507 The left wing media would love nothing better than to portray temper tantrums as the cause of vaccine reluctance.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 15, 2022 03:03 PM (dQvv7)

First of all fuck the media, who cares what they might say. Second of all, it's not a temper tantrum to not TRUST the media when they push something, considering they lie about absolutely everything.

I have asked dozens of times on here, and nobody can tell me a major story in the last 10 years that the media didn't majorly lie about. Anything they push is suspect to me. ANYTHING.

Posted by: ... at January 15, 2022 03:07 PM (ZpC60)

508 - why mock up an Oval Office when there is a genuine one already Good To Go?
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If it's done in the Oval Office it goes into the National Archives.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 15, 2022 03:07 PM (TvHck)

509 Last call for comments

Eh, I'm camped here. I think I'll remain until the gray boxes stop.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 15, 2022 03:07 PM (Xrfse)

510 I can go buy moonshine from three different unrelated individuals in the next two hours if I wanted to, and there's a dozen liquor stores in the same driving time.

One has to assume drugs works similarly.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - no significant difference in ability to spread or catch regardless of vax status at January 15, 2022 03:09 PM (ia41K)

511 First of all fuck the media, who cares what they might say.

Yep.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 15, 2022 03:09 PM (Xrfse)

512 What should he have done? Be hyper-specific.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 15, 2022 03:03 PM (zWpOF)

Yeah more specific than just saying it wasn't Trump's fault. Most importantly he shouldn't have allowed Fauci to run the show and said no to shutting down the country. Especially after the two weeks passed.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 15, 2022 03:09 PM (3q554)

513 Trump was in a political corner. It was part of the operation. Trump likes situations where he can win either way.

They put him in a lose-lose, and he decided to go for the one that involved steadiness and reelection and then (very likely) doing whatever the fuck he wanted to do.

Which was the greatest path to a win out of a lose-lose but they managed the Steal and the rest is history.

Posted by: ... at January 15, 2022 03:12 PM (ZpC60)

514 With percocet, people were able to get a prescription and use a known manufacturer/ dose. Then the government cracked down on pill mills and the addicts turned to the black market. The dealers purchased pill presses and blocks of cheap fentanyl and made their own vicodin, percocet, oxycodone and xanax forgeries. Addicts started overdosing when they unknowingly bought fentanyl pills and took what they thought was their normal dose of oxys. As I said earlier- that is what took tom petty, hoffmann, prince, and probably saget.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2022 03:12 PM (F4b8f)

515 I would be here all afternoon every week but being 2 floors down is the basement every week.

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 03:12 PM (2JoB8)

516 "Is there any human weakness or character flaw for which you wouldn't support incarceration and government persecution?"

That assumes that I am a champion of incarceration and government persecution.

I'm an advocate of restitution for property crimes, and if a person is too dangerous to be in public, neutralized according to community standards which may include cities of refuge, or capital punishment.

Jury is still out for me on Tooth-For-Tooth. I can see benefits, but also a lot of negatives. For one, there needs to be a restoration of the principle that false testimony results in the punishment for the crime under trial to be suffered by the false witness - that includes prosecutors.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 03:12 PM (lSG6C)

517 There isn't enough room for the hologram projectors in the oval.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2022 03:13 PM (F4b8f)

518 why mock up an Oval Office when there is a genuine one already Good To Go?
-------------------

Because they think, speak, act in lies. It's their native tongue.

Posted by: ... at January 15, 2022 03:13 PM (ZpC60)

519 We have an example of what it looks like when drugs like heroin are decriminalized, San Francisco.

How's that working out?

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2022 03:14 PM (ZLI7S)

520 That observation upthread about what if the feds had taken the same approach to fentanyl that they did COVID was a really great one btw.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - lin-duh, sorry it took so long, look in the comments for the liquid at January 15, 2022 03:15 PM (jZJe9)

521 If it's done in the Oval Office it goes into the National Archives.

I thought the internet never forgets (well until Big Tech invented the memory hole)

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 03:16 PM (lSG6C)

522 For one, there needs to be a restoration of the principle that false testimony results in the punishment for the crime under trial to be suffered by the false witness - that includes prosecutors.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 03:12 PM (lSG6C)

Love the idea of it. But the problem, in the case of say, r*pe, is if a true victim has a chance of suffering the consequences of a false accusation, that is just demented. Imagine if you will, a victim of a Kennedy being "proven" to be a false accuser.

That is unimaginable to me and yet as we've seen they would do it in a *heartbeat*. A double or triple indignity. Worse they would simply use the threat of it to keep (already reticent) victims from coming forward.

Posted by: ... at January 15, 2022 03:17 PM (ZpC60)

523 521 If it's done in the Oval Office it goes into the National Archives.

Is the blue dress and cigar there?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2022 03:17 PM (F4b8f)

524 Colorado was becoming a homeless druggie hell hole after they became the only state to legalize weed for recreational use. Lucky for them other states decided to share the love.

Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 15, 2022 03:17 PM (3q554)

525 A movie set for a actor president, it's perfect, and hope the next President has it destroyed day 1.

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 03:18 PM (2JoB8)

526 Mentioned a few times it's so the acting President doesn't get interfered by Sundowner who is over in his fake office

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 03:19 PM (2JoB8)

527 515 I would be here all afternoon every week but being 2 floors down is the basement every week.
Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 03:12 PM (2JoB


I just like conversing and arguing issues, not going to intrude on garden and pet threads with it.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 15, 2022 03:19 PM (4thlk)

528 I was in Ddnver Colorado late summer 1978, first time I ever saw drug addictive people passed out on streets.

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 03:21 PM (2JoB8)

529 I usually make just 1 -3 comments on pet thread, see if anyone adds to Garden but here dies off until Chess thread.

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 03:22 PM (2JoB8)

530 Also using another building as office meetings and persons are not logged in.

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 03:23 PM (2JoB8)

531 I totally understand the political expediency at the time to "do something!!!", with regards to the coof. Our softening society demands immediate gratification. We seem to value "safety" over all else. I guess all I am saying is that once the jab was furtively grasped as the end-all-be-all, there was no turning back. I have (anecdotally) seen firsthand the divisions and rancor this course of action has wrought. Family pitted against family, friends against friends. As I think through this, I see that it is unjust to pin very much of this on PDT. Nevertheless, he was indeed an enthusiastic champion. I suppose at this point, it's water under the bridge. Note to self: leave it be.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 15, 2022 03:25 PM (Xrfse)

532 I just like conversing and arguing issues, not going to intrude on garden and pet threads with it.

Cool, what do you want to argue about? I can take counter-point if you need the practice.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 03:27 PM (lD3vL)

533 >>>Also using another building as office meetings and persons are not logged in.

>Ah. So it's like Hillary having a mail server in her private crapper where her best line of defense is her own feces.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at January 15, 2022 03:28 PM (6liew)

534 521 If it's done in the Oval Office it goes into the National Archives.

Is the blue dress and cigar there?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2022 03:17 PM (F4b8f)



I'm just imagining the poor guy or gal who had to keep the minutes for those meetings.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 15, 2022 03:28 PM (VxC1e)

535 I usually make just 1 -3 comments on pet thread, see if anyone adds to Garden but here dies off until Chess thread.

It's all good! I think that we all have preferences on different thread topics. Ace and the COBS do a fantastic job of dishing up something for everyone. This is a great place.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 15, 2022 03:29 PM (Xrfse)

536 That's the way I have seen it spelled out, Barky probably wishes he thought of it, they just snuck people in under assumed names.

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 03:30 PM (2JoB8)

537 Cool, what do you want to argue about? I can take counter-point if you need the practice.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 03:27 PM (lD3vL)

Heh, what's bugging me today, everything and nothing.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 15, 2022 03:34 PM (4thlk)

538 Hostage taking at TX synagogue by Moslem:

https://twitter.com/AmichaiStein1/status/
1482444390522101769

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 15, 2022 03:36 PM (UHVv4)

539
I was in Denver Colorado late summer 1978, first time I ever saw drug addictive people passed out on streets.

Did you see any of the summer videos of Kensington in Philly the past summer? There's a YT update as of last month.

People bent over at the waist in some sort of drug induced coma every hundred feet, tents set up everywhere, trash everywhere.

I drove those same streets when I was young. If this shit is coming from China than there is insufficient mega-tonnage in our arsenal to give them a ground blast of what they deserve. Any politician taking money from them should be strapped to each missile.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at January 15, 2022 03:36 PM (dQvv7)

540 Hostage taking at TX synagogue by Moslem:

Here we go again. I pray that this ends well.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 15, 2022 03:39 PM (Xrfse)

541 Newsmax reporter:

Logan Ratick @Logan_Ratick; 15m
ABC is reporting one suspect has taken the rabbi and three others hostage at a synagogue in Colleyville, TX. The hostage-taker is claiming to be armed and says his sister is Aafia Siddiqui, who was convicted in New York of trying to kill US military personnel (she's incarcerated)

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 15, 2022 03:41 PM (UHVv4)

542 Colorado was becoming a homeless druggie hell hole after they became the only state to legalize weed for recreational use. Lucky for them other states decided to share the love.
Posted by: Anti doesn't matter at January 15, 2022 03:17 PM (3q554)

I had no problem with that on principle, but I advised everyone I knew to vote against it. We don't want to be the first, I said. I've seen Amsterdam, I said. Wait til like twenty other states do it, I said. But noooo.

We had to be the first. And now, everyone you talk to here is like "fuck, that really ruined CO. Gee, we should have waited."

It's one of those things where even an idiot could see this coming a mile away. But, what can you do? We let people of stupid vote, and most people surprise me with their ability to breathe without assistance, anymore.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 15, 2022 03:42 PM (4odx6)

543 Trader Joe witnessed it, was commenting one Saturday driving out of Philadelphia saying wished I was filming it.

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 03:42 PM (2JoB8)

544 Link in Austin didn't work

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 03:42 PM (2JoB8)

545 Hostage taking at TX synagogue by Moslem:

Every government agency instantly set out to protect mosques and madrasas from reprisals!

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 03:43 PM (lD3vL)

546 Every government agency instantly set out to protect mosques and madrasas from reprisals!

Backlash!!! *hic* Stay safe.

Posted by: Suburban Wine Moms at January 15, 2022 03:44 PM (Xrfse)

547 Remember near capital building and some park in Denver drug addicts stoned out of their heads. And first place every Saturday night a theater showing Rocky Horror with people dressed up waiting to get in.

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 03:45 PM (2JoB8)

548 Those rocky horror people are the worst... Thankfully, there do seem to be far fewer of those particular mutants running around than there were twenty years ago.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at January 15, 2022 03:47 PM (4odx6)

549 Tried again and worked, ( does that sometimes on Cafe)
Fearing the worse, Jihadists don't take hostages then give up

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 03:47 PM (2JoB8)

550 Every government agency instantly set out to protect mosques and madrasas from reprisals!
Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 03:43 PM (lD3vL)

What backlash! These outrages never inspire much outrage.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 15, 2022 03:48 PM (ONvIw)

551 #541 Ratick link:

https://twitter.com/Logan_Ratick/status/
1482448832088657921

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 15, 2022 03:49 PM (UHVv4)

552 The hostage-taker is claiming to be armed and says his sister is Aafia Siddiqui, who was convicted in New York of trying to kill US military personnel (she's incarcerated)
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 15, 2022 03:41 PM (UHVv4



Huh. Nice family.

Don't forget, islam is the Religion of Peace! I heard it from George Bush, and he should know!

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 15, 2022 03:50 PM (VxC1e)

553 Testing to see if this is the new facemask emoji: &x1F637;

Posted by: Reuben Hick at January 15, 2022 03:50 PM (lD3vL)

554 One of the FNM, maybe more has been showing some of the bad side effects of catch and release and so on. Yesterday they covered RTD light rail terminal rampant hard / illegal drug use. RTD "we don't have authority to arrest anyone" I guess Denver is getting to be enough of a big city they need to stand up a "transit authority" that does have power to arrest dangerous addicts.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at January 15, 2022 03:52 PM (3cGpq)

555 Peggy Noonan just scribbled a piece for the NT Post where she criticizes Biden's divisiveness.

The guy she supported. F*ck her.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 15, 2022 03:52 PM (VxC1e)

556
Huh. Nice family.

Don't forget, islam is the Religion of Peace! I heard it from George Bush, and he should know!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 15, 2022 03:50 PM (VxC1e)

yet the other siblings, must be totes shocked and confused by the behavior. Mental illness will get "the blame". I hate that as it is rarely a real factor in crimes.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 15, 2022 03:53 PM (ONvIw)

557 The guy she supported. F*ck her.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 15, 2022 03:52 PM (VxC1e)

Hillary in 2024

Posted by: Piggy Noonan at January 15, 2022 03:53 PM (ONvIw)

558 Looking around if anyone else is reporting
Old case never heard about
https://pjmedia.com
Florida teen converts to islam murders 13 year old boy

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 03:55 PM (2JoB8)

559 A bit more from an hour ago; cops are on the scene.

https://twitter.com/AmichaiStein1/status/
1482449154228072452

https://tinyurl.com/2p9yebut

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 15, 2022 03:55 PM (UHVv4)

560 I was in Denver Colorado late summer 1978, first time I ever saw drug addictive people passed out on streets.


An everyday thing in Seattle and Tacoma.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 15, 2022 03:55 PM (axyOa)

561 Too bad that wasn't "incinerated".

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 15, 2022 03:56 PM (UHVv4)

562 Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 15, 2022 03:55 PM (UHVv4)

I read part of the feed. Some concern about having an imam on the negotiating team.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 15, 2022 03:56 PM (ONvIw)

563 Some concern about having an imam on the negotiating team

What could possibly go wrong?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 15, 2022 03:58 PM (Xrfse)

564 "Peggy Noonan just scribbled a piece for the NT Post where she criticizes Biden's divisiveness."

She ain't the only one changing her tune. As if on cue, all the NeverTrumpers switched to the "Gee that Biden guy is kinda mean" narrative last week. I have a theory, I think their money from and usefulness to the left is about used up. Paying Steven Hayes and Jonah Golberg to belch out the same crap when it's obvious they have no power to help in Nov. is just wasting money.

Posted by: lowandslow at January 15, 2022 04:00 PM (4thlk)

565 I am worried about an event like this in my area. The rabbis are very quick to invite muslims "anytime" in the interest of some sort of fellowship. This allows bad actors to get the layout of the building and knowledge of Sunday School hours, etc.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 15, 2022 04:00 PM (ONvIw)

566
What could possibly go wrong?
Posted by: Notorious BFD at January 15, 2022 03:58 PM (Xrfse)

Condemning in English, and encouraging in Arabic.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 15, 2022 04:02 PM (ONvIw)

567 19 degrees out on deck thermometer

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 04:05 PM (2JoB8)

568 CAIR warns against backlash from next Friday's terror attack.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at January 15, 2022 04:09 PM (yQpMk)

569 @564

>>As if on cue, all the NeverTrumpers switched to the "Gee that Biden guy is kinda mean" narrative last week.

The guy who slandered Clarence Thomas, who said they're going to put y'all back in chains, who bragged about being from a slave when he was running for President in '88, who has routinely and promiscuously, slandered 75 million people in the most vicious and personal ways, that guy is a uniter.

The Nevertrumpers should all die of painfull ass cancer.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at January 15, 2022 04:12 PM (yWHW9)

570 I guess none of them had a concealed-carry.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 15, 2022 04:13 PM (smVBh)

571 Every Jihadist attack gets followed by warnings of anti-Muslum backlash that never happens.

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 04:13 PM (2JoB8)

572 We are at the point that an intelligent person cannot speak out because he/she/it will offend the idiots.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 15, 2022 04:14 PM (smVBh)

573 Ben Had,
It arrived and I am dosed!

Posted by: lin-duh at January 15, 2022 04:14 PM (UUBmN)

574 Great news lin-duh

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 04:18 PM (2JoB8)

575 Youngkin batting .500, sort of, so far.

Nick Iannelli @NickWTOP; 1h
Youngkin just signed executive order telling parents statewide they have a right to say whether or not their children wear a mask in school.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 15, 2022 04:18 PM (UHVv4)

576 Youngkin just signed executive order telling parents statewide they have a right to say whether or not their children wear a mask in school.
Posted by: andycanuck
----
We have that in Texas...and yet the big blue city schools still enforce a mask mandate....

Posted by: lin-duh at January 15, 2022 04:20 PM (UUBmN)

577 The guy who slandered Clarence Thomas, who said they're going to put y'all back in chains, who bragged about being from a slave when he was running for President in '88, who has routinely and promiscuously, slandered 75 million people in the most vicious and personal ways, that guy is a uniter.

The Nevertrumpers should all die of painfull ass cancer.
Posted by: Thomas Bender

I think you are letting them off a little easy, there.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at January 15, 2022 04:20 PM (tjZg/)

578 I have a dilemma. My best friend for over 25 years kicked me to the curb last Jan. out of the blue. Got texts during the holidays and today, she has been texting me for hours. I'm wary. Something is up, just don't know what.

Posted by: Infidel at January 15, 2022 04:21 PM (qpolg)

579 Every Jihadist attack gets followed by warnings of anti-Muslum backlash that never happens.
Posted by: Skip

i don't like favoring any terrorist group. at. all. there needs to be hugemongus anti-muslim backlash. old schol eye for an eye kind of backlash. if that's wrong, i don't want to be right.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at January 15, 2022 04:22 PM (IJES/)

580 578 I have a dilemma. My best friend for over 25 years kicked me to the curb last Jan. out of the blue. Got texts during the holidays and today, she has been texting me for hours. I'm wary. Something is up, just don't know what.
Posted by: Infidel at January 15, 2022 04:21 PM (qpolg)

Was it over politics?

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 15, 2022 04:22 PM (ONvIw)

581 Good point

Is she the canary in the coalmine?
Posted by: JoeF.

That's a big canary.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at January 15, 2022 04:23 PM (tjZg/)

582 Was it over politics?
Posted by: CN...FJB

No. I'm tempted to call and ask what is up.

Posted by: Infidel at January 15, 2022 04:24 PM (qpolg)

583 Well, CN, I should say I don't know if it was over politics.

Posted by: Infidel at January 15, 2022 04:25 PM (qpolg)

584 No. I'm tempted to call and ask what is up.
Posted by: Infidel at January 15, 2022 04:24 PM (qpolg)

Why not? Don't give her any money of course, but it could just be news. I had this happen years ago, but got a call informing me that a mutual friend had died, and that the family wanted me to know.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 15, 2022 04:25 PM (ONvIw)

585 Islam needs eradicated. Post haste.

Posted by: Infidel at January 15, 2022 04:26 PM (qpolg)

586 Infidel so a disconnect last Jan but suddenly reaching out?
If so would call.

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 04:26 PM (2JoB8)

587 have a dilemma. My best friend for over 25 years kicked me to the curb last Jan. out of the blue. Got texts during the holidays and today, she has been texting me for hours. I'm wary. Something is up, just don't know what.

Either she wants something or she wants to make up.

I dated a lady that kicked me to the curb because I would be vaxxed. While I would love to hear from her with a contrite apology, which I would accept, I cannot get over the fact that she thinks she is smarter than she really is.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 15, 2022 04:27 PM (smVBh)

588 Sorry. I refused to be vaxxed.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 15, 2022 04:27 PM (smVBh)

589 Islam should have been irradiated centuries ago.

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 04:28 PM (2JoB8)

590 Did I say that I am arrogant? LOL. I get all this medical advice from people that went to 4th tier medical schools.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 15, 2022 04:29 PM (smVBh)

591 I'm not getting Fake Vaxed, if I get it won't need it, if I don't won't have to

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 04:29 PM (2JoB8)

592 So my spelling sucks.

Posted by: Infidel at January 15, 2022 04:30 PM (qpolg)

593 https://legalinsurrection.com/2022/01/
colleyville-texas-synagogue-hostage-situation/

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 04:30 PM (2JoB8)

594 Islam should have been irradiated centuries ago.
Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 04:28 PM (2JoB



*fistbump*

Posted by: Zombie Winston Churchill at January 15, 2022 04:30 PM (VxC1e)

595 Live feeds shut down, maybe to stop information or to control narrative

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 04:32 PM (2JoB8)

596 why is that family allowed to remain?

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 15, 2022 04:34 PM (ONvIw)

597 Legalizing drugs isn't working because the state piles taxes and regulations on the purchases.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at January 15, 2022 04:34 PM (YynYJ)

598 I have History of Jihad Mo to ISIS

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 04:35 PM (2JoB8)

599 The bastard is mouthing a lot of anti-American stuff, so it's to control the narrative. Since they don't like it here, kick their asses out. If the Constitution is shredded anyway, a few million deportations won't make it worse.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 15, 2022 04:37 PM (ONvIw)

600 Is there a way they can portray this guy as a white supremacist? Did he bring a noose?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 15, 2022 04:38 PM (VxC1e)

601 lin-duh, I'm so glad it got there.

Posted by: Ben Had at January 15, 2022 04:38 PM (7piqi)

602 600 Is there a way they can portray this guy as a white supremacist? Did he bring a noose?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 15, 2022 04:38 PM (VxC1e)

Only if the Jews are black, and I doubt it. This will probably not see much coverage because it's a muslim

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 15, 2022 04:39 PM (ONvIw)

603 President Biden will be following the situation in Texas closely as soon as he wakes up from his nap.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at January 15, 2022 04:39 PM (VxC1e)

604 I cannot get over the fact that she thinks she is smarter than she really is.
Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 15, 2022 04:27 PM (smVBh)

Those who think they are smart, and say so, are reallly irritating to those of us who actually are...

Oh, wait, I just irritated meself!

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 15, 2022 04:40 PM (oHd/0)

605 LI article saying lots of people working to free Aafia, could see Sundowner administration doing it

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 04:40 PM (2JoB8)

606 605. Have they launched a "poor mentally ill boy" narrative yet?

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 15, 2022 04:42 PM (ONvIw)

607 606 605. Have they launched a "poor mentally ill boy" narrative yet?
Posted by: CN...FJB at January 15, 2022 04:42 PM (ONvIw)

Aspiring Rapper?

Posted by: Romeo13 at January 15, 2022 04:42 PM (oHd/0)

608 I thought islam women couldn't get educated.

Posted by: Infidel at January 15, 2022 04:43 PM (qpolg)

609 The sister was previously married to Khalid Mohammed, pure terror family. Why can her siblings remain?

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 15, 2022 04:43 PM (ONvIw)

610 And no one at the synagogue was carrying?

Posted by: Infidel at January 15, 2022 04:45 PM (qpolg)

611 He was a good boy.

Posted by: His Mom at January 15, 2022 04:45 PM (Xrfse)

612

610 And no one at the synagogue was carrying?
Posted by: Infidel at January 15, 2022 04:45 PM (qpolg)

I doubt it.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 15, 2022 04:46 PM (ONvIw)

613 If only we knew the motive.

Posted by: ... at January 15, 2022 04:47 PM (ZpC60)

614 "About 15 minutes until 4"

He's a Zipper, never wore a watch.
quarter till

Posted by: Braenyard at January 15, 2022 04:48 PM (TvHck)

615 #593 Thanks for that link too, Skip.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 15, 2022 04:48 PM (UHVv4)

616 The twitter feed is listing as "offensive" any asking about why he was in the country, also any FBI snark.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 15, 2022 04:50 PM (ONvIw)

617 The bastard is mouthing a lot of anti-American stuff, so it's to control the narrative.
----------------------------
Joe Biden is commenting already??

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 15, 2022 04:50 PM (UHVv4)

618 The hostage taker says there is "something wrong with this fucking country" Why, is it because mus are not free to kill American servicemen and Jews in general? These people are political violence time bombs. Even the next few generations

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 15, 2022 04:52 PM (ONvIw)

619 I thought islam women couldn't get educated.
----------------------------------
It's okay if you're trying to explode through the glass ceiling.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 15, 2022 04:52 PM (UHVv4)

620 I find anything islam offensive. But, I'm not pc.

Posted by: Infidel at January 15, 2022 04:53 PM (qpolg)

621 Joe Biden is commenting already??
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 15, 2022 04:50 PM (UHVv4)

Listen to the Zvika Klein clip. The censors want to obscure the America hate

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 15, 2022 04:53 PM (ONvIw)

622 Kill them all, let G*d sort'em out.

Posted by: Infidel at January 15, 2022 04:54 PM (qpolg)

623 617 The bastard is mouthing a lot of anti-American stuff, so it's to control the narrative.
----------------------------
Joe Biden is commenting already??
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 15, 2022 04:50 PM (UHVv4)

LOL

Posted by: m at January 15, 2022 04:54 PM (SSiCQ)

624 why is that family allowed to remain?
-----------------------------
Because the Constitution is a suicide pact!

Posted by: national review at January 15, 2022 04:54 PM (UHVv4)

625 612 610 And no one at the synagogue was carrying?
Posted by: Infidel at January 15, 2022 04:45 PM (qpolg)

I doubt it.
Posted by: CN...FJB at January 15, 2022 04:46 PM (ONvIw)

hmm

Posted by: m at January 15, 2022 04:55 PM (SSiCQ)

626 -----------------------------
Because the Constitution is a suicide pact!
Posted by: national review at January 15, 2022 04:54 PM (UHVv4)

Why should it apply to hostile Pakistanis, but not to immigration law, or "equal" justice for conservatives. FJB

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 15, 2022 04:55 PM (ONvIw)

627 They got taken didn't they? If they were carrying it should have been a shootout.

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 04:56 PM (2JoB8)

628 It's not going to end well.

Posted by: Infidel at January 15, 2022 04:57 PM (qpolg)

629 627 They got taken didn't they? If they were carrying it should have been a shootout.
Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 04:56 PM (2JoB

they weren't carrying. The vast majority hate the 2A. My nephews will not even visit me because there are guns in the house.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 15, 2022 04:58 PM (ONvIw)

630 587 have a dilemma. My best friend for over 25 years kicked me to the curb last Jan. out of the blue. Got texts during the holidays and today, she has been texting me for hours. I'm wary. Something is up, just don't know what.

Either she wants something or she wants to make up.

I dated a lady that kicked me to the curb because I would be vaxxed. While I would love to hear from her with a contrite apology, which I would accept, I cannot get over the fact that she thinks she is smarter than she really is.
Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at January 15, 2022 04:27 PM (smVBh)

Maybe just listen; be prepared to say "O.k.; not interested; be well" or something non-specific? Even, "I'll get back with you in a few days"?

Posted by: m at January 15, 2022 04:58 PM (SSiCQ)

631 584 No. I'm tempted to call and ask what is up.
Posted by: Infidel at January 15, 2022 04:24 PM (qpolg)

Why not? Don't give her any money of course, but it could just be news. I had this happen years ago, but got a call informing me that a mutual friend had died, and that the family wanted me to know.
Posted by: CN...FJB at January 15, 2022 04:25 PM (ONvIw)

I've had that kind of call, too. We all remained polite, and that was that.

Posted by: m at January 15, 2022 04:59 PM (SSiCQ)

632 625 612 610 And no one at the synagogue was carrying? _ Posted by: Infidel at January 15, 2022 04:45 PM (qpolg)

I doubt it. _ Posted by: CN...FJB at January 15, 2022 04:46 PM (ONvIw)

hmm
Posted by: m at January 15
==============

Fox live feed said they are a congregation of people who *have relocated from other parts of the country*
so carrying is probably offensive to them.

He also said they are a Reform congregation.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 15, 2022 05:00 PM (TvHck)

633 Well, the hostage taking Muz ain't exactly wrong in saying "there's something wrong with this fucking country."

There is.

Just not what he's thinking. And, yea, I can see someone in the junta giving the 'tard a "good idea" and suggest letting this nutters' sister out of prison. To avoid "bloodshed."

Deliver her to him. In a bag.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at January 15, 2022 05:00 PM (BFigT)

634 they weren't carrying. The vast majority hate the 2A. My nephews will not even visit me because there are guns in the house.
Posted by: CN...FJB

I'm sorry.


****

m, think I will just let it hang and do nothing. Once burned, twice shy.

Posted by: Infidel at January 15, 2022 05:01 PM (qpolg)

635 I've had that kind of call, too. We all remained polite, and that was that.
Posted by: m at January 15, 2022 04:59 PM (SSiCQ)

Yep. I was able to talk to the mother of my friend who'd passed, I was grateful for the call as I do not follow Detroit area obits, and only spoke to Helen every few months.

Posted by: CN...FJB at January 15, 2022 05:02 PM (ONvIw)

636 nood.

Posted by: Infidel at January 15, 2022 05:04 PM (qpolg)

637 634 m, think I will just let it hang and do nothing. Once burned, twice shy.
Posted by: Infidel at January 15, 2022 05:01 PM (qpolg)

I get that. For me, personally, I would ceaselessly wonder about it and that would use up more of my time and thoughts and energy than actually finding out!

Posted by: m at January 15, 2022 05:05 PM (SSiCQ)

638 There was a photo of the rabbi and he is fairly young; and while it might have just been the angle of his head -- it was a frontal shot -- I didn't see a yarmulke so maybe they're a Reformed congregation that's not too pro-2nd?? [Mere speculation on my part, I admit.] And it was just four people and not the whole congregation as well.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at January 15, 2022 05:05 PM (UHVv4)

639 The new thread is the chess thread.

Posted by: m at January 15, 2022 05:06 PM (SSiCQ)

640 Weird Dave Nood

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2022 05:07 PM (2JoB8)

641 FIBbers are on the scene too.
Hope they stay out of the way.

Posted by: Braenyard at January 15, 2022 05:08 PM (TvHck)

642 FIB is negotiating and ATF is also on the scene.
Not an improvement

Posted by: Braenyard at January 15, 2022 05:11 PM (TvHck)

643 Wooooo! Just like Kabul!

Posted by: Special Agent Johnson beating feet at January 15, 2022 05:42 PM (yQpMk)

644 Good stuff, K.T. Thanks.

Posted by: Hippopoonis at January 15, 2022 06:39 PM (JPVCx)

645 Worthless Abbott should tell the feds to gtfo. Send in the Texas Rangers.

Posted by: Capital Eff at January 15, 2022 08:00 PM (GYllL)

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