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CDC: We're Not Just Reducing the Length of Quarantine From 10 Days to 5, We're Also Ending the Requirement That You Test Negative Before Returning to Work

Oh? You can return to work even without a test showing you're no longer covid-positive?

That's a hell of change, isn't it?

Not to worry, the CDC's Rachel Wallensky says: This is a change based entirely on The Science,which apparently we just discovered after two years of experience with testing for covid.

The newly updated CDC guidelines don't require testing at the end of isolation because PCR tests can stay positive for up to 12 weeks, CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky told "Good Morning America" Wednesday.

"So we would have people in isolation for a very long time if we were relying on PCRs," Walensky said.

So people have been testing themselves with these PCR tests post-initial diagnosis for two years and this has been yielding false positives for up to 12 weeks post-infection, and no one bothered to say so until now?

What's really going on here?

Oh, right: "The Science" is lying to us again. Or rather, The Politics: Brandon dropped the ball on ordering up an adequate supply of tests, and now we don't have enough tests to test all the people who are about to get omicron.

So the CDC is telling people they don't need to get tested post-infection, to reduce the need for tests that we don't have because their boss is a senile incompetent.

And that's "The Science" in action!


President Joe Biden is closing out his first year in office facing one of the same problems he entered the White House vowing to fix: a persistent shortage of Covid-19 testing that, if resolved, could provide a way out of the still-raging pandemic.

...

Yet the failures surrounding testing have led to accusations that the White House failed to anticipate the pandemic's course and overemphasized vaccinations as a solution to ending the crisis, even as outside experts warned of a looming test shortage directly to administration officials.

Biden's team insists they took what steps they could in the fall to build up testing capacity but acknowledge that a surge in demand and relatively recent emergency use authorizations from the US Food and Drug Administration have made stockpiling at-home tests a challenge.

And the shortage of tests factored into the administration's decision Monday not to recommend tests for individuals exposed to the virus to emerge from a shortened five-day quarantine, according to an official familiar with the discussions.


"If we require a test, people are going to say, 'What if we can't get a test?' " the senior administration official said, recounting internal deliberations on condition of anonymity. "Rather than letting the perfect be the enemy of the good," the official said, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention opted for less stringent language, noting that "best practice would also include a test for SARS-CoV-2 at day 5 after exposure."

Biden himself has frankly acknowledged that his efforts have fallen short, particularly in scaling up testing, even as he seeks to take credit for other aspects of fighting the pandemic.

"It's clearly not enough. If I had -- we had -- known, we would have gone harder, quicker, if we could have," Biden said in describing his testing efforts this week while meeting virtually with governors. "We have to do more. We have to do better, and we will."

Other top health officials, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, the President's top medical adviser, have similarly acknowledged the testing shortfalls in interviews. And White House press secretary Jen Psaki conceded last week that she could have provided more context when she dismissed the notion of sending tests to Americans just two weeks ago.

Actual scientists are perplexed by the Science Priests sudden new claims about what "The Science" scriptures are telling them, because this isn't science at all, this is all politics and bureaucratic ass-covering and a lot of covering up for the failures of a Democrat.

They're inventing made-up "science" to Manage Public Relations and to Reassure the Public that Brandon Knows What He's Doing.

Public Relations -- the highest form of The Science!

Meanwhile, while the nation faces a major shortage in over-the-counter covid tests, CNN's fat neurotic covid panic case -- okay, let me be more specific -- CNN's Chris Cillizza hoards an entire case of the tests.

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Binax is an OTC rapid covid test by Abbot Labs which was developed quickly with funds provided by -- checks notes -- oh, right, with funds provided by Donald Trump.

And what did Brandon do? Even as people were urging him to ramp up production of tests in case of a completely-unforeseeable disease-spiking event known as "the winter," he sneeringly rejected those calls to push production of tests. After all, we mustn't let anything interfere with The Message that the only protection is the vaccine and more vaccine and boosters and more boosters.

Experts had in fact proposed to Brandon that he act to surge test production.

Nelson asked about a report in Vanity Fair that Biden had been offered a plan in October by health experts to get 732 million test kits out to Americans before the holiday season hit so that could help reduce the crush of people wanting tests.

The 10-page plan, which Vanity Fair has obtained, would enable the U.S. to finally do what many other countries had already done: Put rapid at-home COVID-19 testing into the hands of average citizens, allowing them to screen themselves in real time and thereby help reduce transmission. The plan called for an estimated 732 million tests per month, a number that would require a major ramp-up of manufacturing capacity. It also recommended, right on the first page, a nationwide "Testing Surge to Prevent Holiday COVID Surge."

What happened to that? White House officials reportedly told the experts that they didn't think they had the capacity to do it and so rejected the plan.


Just before he called A Lid on the week at midday on a Monday to fly off to the beach, Biden lied and claimed he'd never "rejected" the plan.

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And then, just like that, he disappeared into the rain for another well-earned vacation week.




52 Sorry Ace, but I'm not with you on this. Mass testing of healthy and/or asymptomatic people with dodgy bullshit tests is a terrible idea with no purpose other than to ratchet up hysteria and paranoia.


I swear some of you cannot or will not read.

This is not about asymptomatic people testing themselves.

The policy concerns people who are confirmed to have covid. The policy is about them not getting tested AFTER five days to show they no longer are actively carrying covid before returning to work.


Also, if you'd read the article, you'd see this is not about "science" or "getting it right;" this is about them having fucked up and not having gotten enough tests (remember when they crucified Trump for that for a FULL YEAR?!?!) and now making up a reason for rationing the tests.

I'm really tired of the "Covid is Completely Fake" lobby. You see right there the selective editing they have to do to justify their position.

Can we at least agree that a guy who RAN ON A PLATFORM of accusing Trump of "willful mass murder" and having "blood on his hands" for not having enough tests when he was president should be held to his own standard and have enough tests to not invent new "science" to justify rationing tests?

Or are we just going to congratulate Brandon for his wisdom here?

Jesus.

Posted by: Ace at 12:21 PM




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1 SPONGE!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at December 29, 2021 12:21 PM (XvPQV)

2 Whoa

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 29, 2021 12:21 PM (Do5/p)

3 Heh, now to call the otters

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at December 29, 2021 12:21 PM (XvPQV)

4 Gotta say, I understand why people would get the shots the first time. The information I used to decide not to get them is not readily available if someone doesn't know where to look.

Posted by: Emmie at December 29, 2021 11:31 AM

Which is why I am thankful for people like this guy who did the research and gathered all the information into one post:

18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine

https://bit.ly/3zBStfw

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 29, 2021 12:21 PM (Do5/p)

5 Boxed in.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 29, 2021 12:21 PM (BmQ4L)

6 The word has gone out, apparently.
They really want to be re-elected

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at December 29, 2021 12:22 PM (XvPQV)

7 Btw I thought I heard one of the tests had a toxic agent in it.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 29, 2021 12:22 PM (BmQ4L)

8 Binax NOW! sounds like a protest sign.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 29, 2021 12:23 PM (63Dwl)

9 "So people have been testing themselves with these PCR tests post-initial diagnosis for two years and this has been yielding false positives for up to 12 weeks post-infection, and no one bothered to say so until now?"

Technically this sort of thing was occasionally brought up. It just tended to be inconvenient for whatever testing craze was going on.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 29, 2021 12:23 PM (z5Vrg)

10 SCIENCE CHANGES, RETHIGLIKKLANS.
LEAVE THIS TO THE ADULTS.

Posted by: Satans Retards at December 29, 2021 12:23 PM (lM+ri)

11 Binax.

Brought to you by Sonobi.

Posted by: garrett at December 29, 2021 12:23 PM (nHxHu)

12 Someone wants the economy roaring again.

Because voting doesn't matter anymore and those in power can do whatever they want without consequence now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 12:24 PM (LvTSG)

13

Binax NOW
Binax TOMORROW
Binax FOREVER

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 29, 2021 12:24 PM (63Dwl)

14 This is actually worse for employers, now people can just take five days off without having to provide a negative test. This was the only factor is trying to discourage people from just taking two weeks off- they had to go get tested and provide a negative. Now they can just flake off.

Damn.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 29, 2021 12:24 PM (dNqv+)

15 So my kid has to take a scheduled covid test at a clinic after each time off from school, at $$$ a pop, while these Fear Queens hoard rapid tests that might actually make this process a Hell of a lot faster and cheaper.

GAH I hate these people!

Posted by: Lizzy at December 29, 2021 12:24 PM (URNdm)

16 These changes are based on the potential NFL playoff brackets in the CDC football pool.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 29, 2021 12:24 PM (C7jzY)

17 I am so over all of this.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 29, 2021 12:24 PM (Ez6QX)

18 Binax is Gender Questioning People!

Posted by: garrett at December 29, 2021 12:24 PM (nHxHu)

19 When an agency tells a lie to repudiate or support another lie, it gets messy enough that you can't sort it out.

So the post-sick testing requirement. Why change it? Test supply? Maybe. Actual uselessness (their stated answer)? Maybe. Economic/political consequences? Maybe.

I don't know and it's unlikely that very many do. They all lie constantly about everything and are only accidentally or incidentally truthful. With COVID issues in particular, I am not convinced that anyone has ever been truthful for any reason. The only answer I can come up with is "disregard everything they say about anything at all, seek out alternate information, and hope for the best."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 29, 2021 12:25 PM (DU+/6)

20 I wish we would stop the judging and the name calling among our own clan.

The judgement even here in this room is counterproductive.

And the pureblood bullshit is straight out of the book nazi crap. It's offensive. And it's dangerous.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 29, 2021 12:25 PM (W2Pud)

21 Honestly, I think they are trying to force the spread to the Unvaxxed wherever they can.

Posted by: garrett at December 29, 2021 12:25 PM (nHxHu)

22 13

Binax NOW
Binax TOMORROW
Binax FOREVER
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 29, 2021 12:24 PM (63Dwl)

===========

"Binax is the enemy."
-Stephen Colbert

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 12:25 PM (LvTSG)

23
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 29, 2021 12:24 PM

If not vaxxed you will not get paid.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 29, 2021 12:25 PM (BmQ4L)

24 !RIFST

Posted by: Dyslexic Sponge at December 29, 2021 12:25 PM (C7jzY)

25 Biden is the Hulk?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 29, 2021 12:26 PM (63Dwl)

26 Oh, right: "The Science" is lying to us again. Or rather, The Politics: Brandon dropped the ball on ordering up an adequate supply of tests, and now we don't have enough tests to test all the people who are about to get omicron.
++++
Probably some of this. Also probably some of "Omicron doesn't really matter and so treating it like any other illness is fine." But they can't say that even if it's part of the motivation.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 29, 2021 12:26 PM (DU+/6)

27 Why can't Chris Cilliza keep his fear to himself?

Posted by: N.L. Urker at December 29, 2021 12:26 PM (eGTCV)

28 Posted by: Lizzy at December 29, 2021 12:24 PM (URNdm)

Stop testing asymptotic people.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 29, 2021 12:26 PM (BmQ4L)

29 What would be helpful would be for organizations that require tests, such as school and employers, to purchase the tests to that when *they* require a test, *they can provide it at their expense.

Why are they selling them to people who are just going to go test crazy and use up all the tests -- or hoard them?!?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 29, 2021 12:26 PM (URNdm)

30 "Public Relations -- the highest form of The Science!"

NewSpeak ... now advanced into NewScience. We have always been at war with Covid, the Ministry of Truthiness has new major advances, the old science people must report at once for re-education.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 29, 2021 12:27 PM (Cus5s)

31 If not vaxxed you will not get paid.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 29, 2021 12:25 PM (BmQ4L)

Yeah, some people do not care.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 29, 2021 12:27 PM (dNqv+)

32 Stop testing asymptotic people.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 29, 2021 12:26 PM (BmQ4L)
++++
Dat's crazy talk.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 29, 2021 12:27 PM (DU+/6)

33 27 Why can't Chris Cilliza keep his fear to himself?
Posted by: N.L. Urker at December 29, 2021 12:26 PM (eGTCV)

========

Because he gets dozens of likes?

Dozens!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 12:27 PM (LvTSG)

34 CDC only changes the rules on days that end in quote unquote day and are not a Federal Holiday.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 29, 2021 12:27 PM (yrol0)

35 Binax Green is people?!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at December 29, 2021 12:27 PM (XvPQV)

36 Willowed

Below is a very useful link for studies on early treatment what we know, strength of that knowledge etc. There are some things that work pretty well. Especially for prophylaxis early treatment. There is no reason for a lot of this stuff to not be offered for those prior to need for hospital care. No medical reason.
Takes a little knowledge to read the graphs, but you people are smart.

https://c19early.com/

Posted by: simplemind at December 29, 2021 12:27 PM (FRov5)

37 Here's my Final word on this subject:


IT'S COMPLICATED

Posted by: The Science at December 29, 2021 12:27 PM (rnt58)

38 What would be helpful would be for organizations that require tests, such as school and employers, to purchase the tests to that when *they* require a test, *they can provide it at their expense. ...
Posted by: Lizzy at December 29, 2021 12:26 PM (URNdm)
++++
Dat's crazy talk.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 29, 2021 12:27 PM (DU+/6)

39 Puppet can't do anything useful, so send him to the beach house with his beach friends.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at December 29, 2021 12:27 PM (ufFY8)

40 I cannot decide if Silliza is mentally ill or just trying to be the most virtue signalling and beloved of Branch Covidians. Maybe both.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 29, 2021 12:27 PM (KZzsI)

41 I'm going to test every hour!

You can't be too safe!

Posted by: Covid Karen! at December 29, 2021 12:27 PM (I2/tG)

42 PCR tests were set to be eliminated from use come 12/31/21 anyway. Since, as the FDA and CDC admitted months ago, they cannot distinguish between SARS-CoV-2 and inFLUenza. So part of this "we don't need to do as many tests anymore" narrative is probably due to that as well.

If people were paying attention, they would think to themselves "if the PCR tests we have been using for 22+ months cannot distinguish between SARS-CoV-2 and inFLUenza, then how has anyone confirmed that anyone has had SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 instead of influenza all this time? And does this mean that inFLUenza cases didn't actually drop from a yearly average of 30 million in USA to approximately zero over the last 2 years?"

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 29, 2021 12:28 PM (Do5/p)

43 32 Stop testing asymptotic people.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 29, 2021 12:26 PM (BmQ4L)
++++
Dat's crazy talk.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 29, 2021 12:27 PM (DU+/6)

=========

All testing must be performed by a doctor or NP at their office. You must be exhibiting signs of covid, and the doctor (or NP) must be the one to deem the test worthwhile after a health check.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 12:28 PM (LvTSG)

44 Btw I thought I heard one of the tests had a toxic agent in it.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 29, 2021 12:22 PM (BmQ4L)



Well sure, some of the home tests do. The easy fix is not to drink the test reagent.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 29, 2021 12:28 PM (ZSK0i)

45 I'm just glad COVID takes breaks for eating, and social justice...

Posted by: sven at December 29, 2021 12:28 PM (Lzpvj)

46 37 Here's my Final word on this subject:


IT'S COMPLICATED
Posted by: The Science at December 29, 2021 12:27 PM (rnt5

========

That's a Facebook relationship status.

Just sayin'...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 12:28 PM (LvTSG)

47 Well luckily it IS omicron. It actually is not infectious for as long as the original and delta strains and its only a basic flu, not a super flu. If we hadn't gone full germaphobe the CDC would come out and say "in these areas omicron is dominant so NO testing is required." Then if there are pockets where the more severe covid strains are still around in significant numbers, they could concentrate the tests there.

Posted by: PaleRider, unvaxxed and untested at December 29, 2021 12:28 PM (3cGpq)

48 Stop testing asymptotic people.

Then how will we get all the false positives to fuel the hysteria?

Posted by: Covid Karen! at December 29, 2021 12:28 PM (I2/tG)

49 When my brother got covid in September after taking a road trip with a colleague who tested positive, he had a very difficult time getting tested. Most places were either booked, or promised results in. . . 3-7 days. What is the point of waiting up to a week to get the results, particularly if it's negative. And if it's positive, it delays treatment.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 29, 2021 12:29 PM (URNdm)

50 On a related note, the more your test, the higher your false positive rate. Not just the absolute number of false positives, but the proportion of positives which are false increase.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 29, 2021 12:29 PM (z5Vrg)

51 42 Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 29, 2021 12:28 PM (Do5/p)

You've had a little too much to think....

Posted by: sven at December 29, 2021 12:29 PM (Lzpvj)

52 Sorry Ace, but I'm not with you on this. Mass testing of healthy and/or asymptomatic people with dodgy bullshit tests is a terrible idea with no purpose other than to ratchet up hysteria and paranoia.

The CDC finally -- FINALLY -- got something at least half-right with this new policy. Not that they didn't have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the light. If anything, it doesn't go far enough. Covid is over. I would say it never was a real thing anyway, but it's now over.

The battle going forward won't be between big gov't and rightwing patriots over these ridiculous Covid restrictions. The battle will be between big gov't and the tens of millions of leftwingers driven batshit-crazy insane by two years of big gov't-fueled hysteria and paranoia over what amounts to the flu.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 29, 2021 12:29 PM (iFTx/)

53 Nobody is talking about this but the OSHA ETS has a masking and weekly testing requirement for the unvaccinated. That starts Monday!

Yes some courts have put that on hold but lots of businesses are still complying with it.

My company is doing the vaccination status survey of employees. The result ? Only 35% are vaccinated.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 29, 2021 12:29 PM (cMXNt)

54 If people were paying attention, they would think to themselves "if the PCR tests we have been using for 22+ months cannot distinguish between SARS-CoV-2 and inFLUenza, then how has anyone confirmed that anyone has had SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 instead of influenza all this time? And does this mean that inFLUenza cases didn't actually drop from a yearly average of 30 million in USA to approximately zero over the last 2 years?"
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 29, 2021 12:28 PM (Do5/p)
++++
And, by extension, how many "COVID cases" (positive tests) were actually flu?

Throw a dart. Take a guess.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 29, 2021 12:29 PM (DU+/6)

55 I thought science was written in stone, no wait, rice paper or clay?

Posted by: Skip's Phone at December 29, 2021 12:29 PM (wqfpN)

56 48 Stop testing asymptotic people.

Then how will we get all the false positives to fuel the hysteria?
Posted by: Covid Karen! at December 29, 2021 12:28 PM (I2/tG)

========

"Oh no! They're trying to stop fueling the hysteria! I'm going into hysterics!"
-Karen McCookingSherrymom

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 12:29 PM (LvTSG)

57 If people were paying attention, they would think to themselves "if the PCR tests we have been using for 22+ months cannot distinguish between SARS-CoV-2 and inFLUenza, then how has anyone confirmed that anyone has had SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19 instead of influenza all this time? And does this mean that inFLUenza cases didn't actually drop from a yearly average of 30 million in USA to approximately zero over the last 2 years?"
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 29, 2021 12:28 PM (Do5/p)

The funny thing is this isn't exactly news. It's just been real quiet.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 29, 2021 12:30 PM (z5Vrg)

58 As has been said, cases and deaths have been overstated by 80 pct.

This was apparent by June of 2020.

But what do I know, I'm a fucking retard.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 29, 2021 12:30 PM (RyNd/)

59 Willowed from the last thread:

Covid-19.ontario.ca/data

There it is. An actual graph showing what a total fraud this whole scam is. If they shut down the data, what will that show? Only that they are scared.

Could it be down to the idea that flooding your body with antigen makes you less able to fend off simultaneous infection? Is it weakening of the immune system? I don't know. No one knows! Because every aspect of the Walensky/ Klain/ Bloomberg society, from the corporate pharmacies to the CDC, keeps bleating that the vaccine is SAFE AND EFFECTIVE, despite being obviously wrong.

You can't go wrong with simply saying NO. The pressure only makes it more obvious to refuse. It's Stanford Prison Experiment writ large.

Posted by: trev006 at December 29, 2021 12:30 PM (RJToO)

60 People are wondering why Biden wears a mask to play with his dog on the beach 'but not in a crowded bookstore on Nantucket'

https://tinyurl.com/2p5fmhk5

Posted by: redridinghood at December 29, 2021 12:30 PM (NpAcC)

61 At this point I think it is pretty clear that the Experts don't know shit from Shinola.

Posted by: garrett at December 29, 2021 12:30 PM (nHxHu)

62 Binax NOW?

I bought an axe years ago.

Posted by: Paul Bunyan at December 29, 2021 12:30 PM (QYPq3)

63 Just before he called A Lid on the week at midday on a Monday to fly off to the beach, Biden lied and claimed he'd never "rejected" the plan.

Maybe he's not lying. Maybe he never personally rejected the plan. Others in his administration did.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 29, 2021 12:30 PM (wmDcS)

64 People are wondering why Biden wears a mask to play with his dog on the beach 'but not in a crowded bookstore on Nantucket'

https://tinyurl.com/2p5fmhk5
Posted by: redridinghood at December 29, 2021 12:30 PM (NpAcC)


It's not Biden, it's a body double they use when he needs to appear "healthy."

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 29, 2021 12:31 PM (wmDcS)

65 We've had a no-testing 90 days after you get COVID forever. So do some of our local school districts. I am not certain where that direction came from, but it was due to the high number of false positives.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 29, 2021 12:31 PM (VpIIl)

66 63 Just before he called A Lid on the week at midday on a Monday to fly off to the beach, Biden lied and claimed he'd never "rejected" the plan.

Maybe he's not lying. Maybe he never personally rejected the plan. Others in his administration did.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 29, 2021 12:30 PM (wmDcS)

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The people not "elected" to positions of power? Those people?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 12:31 PM (LvTSG)

67 Nobody is talking about this but the OSHA ETS has a masking and weekly testing requirement for the unvaccinated. That starts Monday!

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 29, 2021 12:29 PM (cMXNt)


Someone here (can't remember who) said that was pushed back until February.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 29, 2021 12:31 PM (Ez6QX)

68 >>Stop testing asymptotic people.


Right?

How long ago did it come out that if you are asymptomatic you are not infecting others?

Oh yeah, then they came out with vaccines that allegedly reduce the symptoms so now it can be spread (nearly?) asymptomatically -- is that correct?

This is Schroedinger's virus!

Posted by: Lizzy at December 29, 2021 12:32 PM (URNdm)

69 Stop testing asymptotic people.

Right? That line is never going to touch that curve...

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at December 29, 2021 12:32 PM (II3Gr)

70 Isn't a Cillizza like a tiny hair in your nose and ears?

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at December 29, 2021 12:32 PM (rnt58)

71 Chris Godzilla should've gotten himself a retard test instead.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at December 29, 2021 12:32 PM (FVME7)

72 ... What is the point of waiting up to a week to get the results, particularly if it's negative. And if it's positive, it delays treatment.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 29, 2021 12:29 PM (URNdm)
++++
Because testing has, since the beginning, been to build statistical models and "control spread." Making you wait on a negative is fine (up to a point) for the latter, but not for anything diagnostic. Testing has zero diagnostic value regardless of any delays (all of which are bad in that context) because we don't treat COVID.

If we treated COVID, rapid, accessible testing would be valuable. Get sick, take test, hit positive, begin outpatient treatment regimen. But early response and outpatient treatment protocols for COVID officially do not exist. The protocol for COVID is "go home until you can't breathe, then come to the hospital for monoclonal antibodies if you're lucky. If you keep getting worse, you get put on a vent until you die" - so testing is pointless from a treatment standpoint.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 29, 2021 12:33 PM (DU+/6)

73 48 Stop testing asymptotic people.

Then how will we get all the false positives to fuel the hysteria?
Posted by: Covid Karen! at December 29, 2021 12:28 PM (I2/tG)

Wait, don't you remember all those tests we had to take after we had the Polio and MMR vaccines?

No, I don't either, must be a fluke. I'm sure there was lots of testing done after we got vaccines.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 29, 2021 12:33 PM (UuD2k)

74 The people not "elected" to positions of power? Those people?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 12:31 PM (LvTSG)


Yup. The bureaucracy and the political staff trying to run the show behind the scenes.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 29, 2021 12:33 PM (wmDcS)

75 What are the "books" or whatever *biden always seems to carry around? It's not like he can read. Hell, the teleprompter can tell you that.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 29, 2021 12:33 PM (BFigT)

76 >>It's not Biden, it's a body double they use when he needs to appear "healthy."


His brother looks a lot like Joe

Posted by: Lizzy at December 29, 2021 12:33 PM (URNdm)

77 That's a hell of change, isn't it?

To be fair, the tests will be testing for just covid come January 1st, so there's no point.

Posted by: The CDC at December 29, 2021 12:33 PM (8DRUP)

78 60 People are wondering why Biden wears a mask to play with his dog on the beach 'but not in a crowded bookstore on Nantucket'

The mask has a meat scent so the dog will hang out with him.

Posted by: N.L. Urker at December 29, 2021 12:33 PM (eGTCV)

79 Testing is useless, especially with Omicron. By the time your results get back, you're over it. I've had five people in my circle get COVID in the past two weeks, vaxed and unvaxed. One who had bad asthma. All of them got over it in a few days. In fact the teenager got over it in 24 hours.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 29, 2021 12:34 PM (VpIIl)

80 Every time I go to the pharmacy the branch covidians are literally buying every rapid test they have.

Its like beanie babies back in the day

Posted by: 18-1 at December 29, 2021 12:34 PM (ESjRY)

81 Stop testing asymptotic people.

To me, there are lines you just do not cross.

Posted by: t-bird at December 29, 2021 12:34 PM (ELgVT)

82 Mentioned this in previous comments. Grandson has been tested 5 dozen times between his school and by his soon to be stepmom. He's 13. Why are we doing this to our youth? He never had a chance since his dad is a major hypochondriac, this just makes it worse.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 29, 2021 12:34 PM (2NHgQ)

83 It's always been about the economy. To hurt Trump. Or to help Biden.

The stupid part just mutates back and forth. Depending.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at December 29, 2021 12:34 PM (b8J4P)

84 >>People are wondering why Biden wears a mask to play with his dog on the beach 'but not in a crowded bookstore on Nantucket'


My guess is that the mask is there to keep the dog penis out of his mouth.

Posted by: garrett at December 29, 2021 12:34 PM (nHxHu)

85 I guess the covid well has run dry so they're resorting to reality.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at December 29, 2021 12:34 PM (FVME7)

86 "Your test can stay positive for 12 weeks" might have implications for a certain OSHA "vax or test" mandate, SCOTUS.

Posted by: David at December 29, 2021 12:35 PM (3Aeai)

87 Look at the number of cases vs amount of testing. You won't be surprised.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 29, 2021 12:35 PM (VpIIl)

88 Son got a religious exemption from his college for the vaccine, but he has to have a negative test within two hours of attending his first class. This should be fun.

Meanwhile, somebody I know whose son goes to some small college in PA said the school didn't require a vaccine and to attend classes and when people got sick they had to quarantine by themselves in a room in one of the dorms for a few days. Sounds like that school handled it much better than some larger schools.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 29, 2021 12:35 PM (k49Sx)

89 Senator Joe Biden didn't shut down the economy, he shutdown the virus!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 29, 2021 12:35 PM (r0ADi)

90 67 Nobody is talking about this but the OSHA ETS has a masking and weekly testing requirement for the unvaccinated. That starts Monday!

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 29, 2021 12:29 PM (cMXNt)

Someone here (can't remember who) said that was pushed back until February.
Posted by: Jordan61 at December 29, 2021 12:31 PM (Ez6QX)

-------

Well if it was, it wasn't relayed to our plant level. I'll check with HR when I get back from lunch.

The entire weekly test requirement was completely undefined.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 29, 2021 12:35 PM (cMXNt)

91 Because voting doesn't matter anymore and those in power can do whatever they want without consequence now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 12:24 PM (LvTSG)


I've said this for so long, even I'm sick of myself.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 29, 2021 12:35 PM (2JVJo)

92

As a very confused actual physician I can say:
1. We've known for 20 months that you could have latency positive testing for 8 plus weeks after signs and symptoms of infection. Which is why we refused to retest; and almost certainly represents false reports of repeat acute covid illness; and almost certainly his contributed to the vastly overinflated death by covid numbers; and
2. Nobody has ever required a negative test for return to work, that was never in the CDC guidelines after they we're formalized (10 days and symptom free later 7 days and symptom free now 5 days and symptom free) and that has never been supported by government agencies (at least in my area of operation). I have seen it required from individual employers who we promptly reported to the state health agency for a spanking.

They lie so much and so often they can't even keep their own lies straight.

Posted by: Dr Nick Riviera at December 29, 2021 12:35 PM (Z/BA3)

93 Look at the number of cases vs amount of testing. You won't be surprised.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 29, 2021 12:35 PM (VpIIl)
++++
"Cases"

"Case == positive test" has always been a bad approach.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 29, 2021 12:36 PM (DU+/6)

94 How about we test people for immunity instead of the virus?

Just saying. At this point that seems sagacious.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 29, 2021 12:36 PM (VpIIl)

95 >> Get sick, take test, hit positive, begin outpatient treatment regimen. But early response and outpatient treatment protocols for COVID officially do not exist.


My brother was pretty sick -- not hospital worthy, but fever, congested and passed out in bed. He phoned his doc on the same day he was tested and asked for monoclonals (sp?) and was refused.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 29, 2021 12:36 PM (URNdm)

96 What is the carbon footprint of 1 billion covid lateral flow tests?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 29, 2021 12:36 PM (aUWM7)

97 >>How about we test people for immunity instead of the virus?


You know exactly why that will NEVER happen.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 29, 2021 12:36 PM (URNdm)

98 Here's a thought - COVID death statistics count just about anyone who died within a month of a positive test. Now the CDC director says a test could still show positive 12 weeks after you were actually sick. Now combine those.

Posted by: David at December 29, 2021 12:37 PM (3Aeai)

99 The Science! changes and we must adapt to its every whim.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 29, 2021 12:37 PM (4olE8)

100 BTW who is Chris Cilliza?

Posted by: N.L. Urker at December 29, 2021 12:37 PM (eGTCV)

101
Pureblood is bad? Alrighty then. I'm 100% non-GMO.

Posted by: Zombie Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at December 29, 2021 12:37 PM (dQvv7)

102 >>I have seen it required from individual employers who we promptly reported to the state health agency for a spanking.


Really? Schools require that. Ask me how I know. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at December 29, 2021 12:38 PM (URNdm)

103 And, by extension, how many "COVID cases" (positive tests) were actually flu?

Throw a dart. Take a guess.


Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 29, 2021 12:29 PM

All those people who described having "COVID" as "it was like a bad flu". It was like a bad flu probably because it actually was a bad flu and not COVID.

But we'll never know, because just like they lied about "COVID deaths" to include "death for any cause within 30 days of COVID+ test"*, they also likely lied about COVID cases (where some high % of them were likely influenza cases).

*Since it's finally getting into the public that a COVID+ test result has a high false-positive rate, how many of the "COVID deaths" based on those faulty COVID tests were not actually COVID deaths.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 29, 2021 12:38 PM (Do5/p)

104 So the science...isn't settled? Can science do That? Isn't that like the question of can God create a rock even He can't lift?

My world is rocked!

/

Posted by: Bete at December 29, 2021 12:38 PM (taYhJ)

105 I guess the covid well has run dry so they're resorting to reality.

What is this stuff? Tastes funny...

Posted by: Covidians at December 29, 2021 12:38 PM (n/x6m)

106 100 BTW who is Chris Cilliza?
Posted by: N.L. Urker at December 29, 2021 12:37 PM (eGTCV)

CNN's fat neurotic covid panic case. The answer was right there in the post. Too bad nobody reads those.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at December 29, 2021 12:38 PM (II3Gr)

107 What is the carbon footprint of 1 billion covid lateral flow tests?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 29, 2021 12:36 PM


What is the carbion footprint of 1 billion cow flatulenic emissions?

Posted by: Greta, the future Mrs. Thunberg-Hogg at December 29, 2021 12:38 PM (a3Q+t)

108 The Science! changes and we must adapt to its every whim.
Posted by: NR Pax at December 29, 2021 12:37 PM (4olE
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There's nothing wrong with that. New information leads to new decisions. Learning you were wrong leads to new decisions. That's fair enough.

It also has nothing to do with COVID policy in any way. That is based not on information, but on corrupt insider dealing, power motivations, fear of their own weaponized base, a self-reinforcing media echo chamber, and various other factors. Data doesn't enter into it, and neither does the scientific method.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 29, 2021 12:39 PM (DU+/6)

109 Nelson asked about a report in Vanity Fair that Biden had been offered a plan in October by health experts to get 732 million test kits out to Americans before the holiday season hit so that could help reduce the crush of people wanting tests.

--

732 million tests? And how many people live in the US again? Seems, oh, I dunno, astronomical.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 29, 2021 12:39 PM (sVtYq)

110 Molecular Tests Count
Total Number of Molecular Tests Reported (included in total test numbers) 38783742
Number of Molecular Tests Tests Reported 4486401 11.57%

Texas has now tested about 110% of the population to find a so called disease in about 11% of the population that less that 1% of doctors will write prescriptions for treatment.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 29, 2021 12:39 PM (yrol0)

111 People are wondering why Biden wears a mask to play with his dog on the beach 'but not in a crowded bookstore on Nantucket'

https://tinyurl.com/2p5fmhk5
Posted by: redridinghood at December 29, 2021 12:30 PM (NpAcC)


Because this administration is so retarded they think they've got some sort of brilliant grasp on image. Like the moron tik-tok influencers or lip-syncing nurses.

And they're out on the beach having a romantic walk, just the 2 of them, Commander and a dozen press photographers.

BTW, that dog is going to be an out of control piece of shit. No doubt they got it at that age already partially trained and fully socialized. But they're smart, and the dog is already running slipshod all over Grandpa Alzheimer's.

Posted by: clutchx cargox - processed in a facility that may contain leadx at December 29, 2021 12:39 PM (wAnMi)

112 Boy, the polls must be really, really bad for Covid Karen.

Posted by: Cameroom at December 29, 2021 12:39 PM (3dm+3)

113 They, uh, fell off a truck.

Posted by: Chris Cillizza at December 29, 2021 12:39 PM (4I/2K)

114 Because voting doesn't matter anymore and those in power can do whatever they want without consequence now.

I remembered being surprised that every single western country handled COVID the same way* it was just a question of how NAZI the country went. One would have hoped those anti-globalism lefties would have noticed but I guess they all died from COVID or something.

*Except Sweden to an extent.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 29, 2021 12:39 PM (ESjRY)

115 Why the EEF would I go out and spend my good money on an OTC test? I don't give a crap about Covid. I just don't care. If I get it and die, Im one of those poor 0.03% bastards. Otherwise, I got better things to do

Posted by: Diogenes at December 29, 2021 12:39 PM (axyOa)

116 Pureblood is bad? Alrighty then. I'm 100% non-GMO.
Posted by: Zombie Traitor Joe's Military Surplus


We're cis-human, I think.

Posted by: t-bird at December 29, 2021 12:40 PM (sTOQ8)

117 SCIENCE CHANGES, RETHIGLIKKLANS.
LEAVE THIS TO THE ADULTS.
Posted by: Satans Retards

The settled science has become unstable!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at December 29, 2021 12:40 PM (FVME7)

118 We had 83 people lined up at a local medi-care who were waiting for testing. You would think they were giving away a million bucks.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 29, 2021 12:40 PM (VpIIl)

119 >>>*Since it's finally getting into the public that a COVID+ test result has a high false-positive rate, how many of the "COVID deaths" based on those faulty COVID tests were not actually COVID deaths.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 29, 2021 12:38 PM (Do5/p)

And yet, it's even worse. How many of those people died because they were being treated for COVID instead of what was actually wrong with them. Federally mandated medical malpractice.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at December 29, 2021 12:41 PM (QYPq3)

120 We had 83 people lined up at a local medi-care who were waiting for testing. You would think they were giving away a million bucks.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 29, 2021 12:40 PM (VpIIl)
++++
Better make it 1.5 or maybe even two million. Inflation's a bitch.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 29, 2021 12:41 PM (DU+/6)

121 Interesting... I just received an e-mail from the US Census Bureau asking me to complete a COVID-19 Household Pulse Survey. Supposedly the results will be shared with government agencies to try to form future policy.

https://bit.ly/3FD90DV

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 29, 2021 12:41 PM (Do5/p)

122 I remembered being surprised that every single western country handled COVID the same way* it was just a question of how NAZI the country went. One would have hoped those anti-globalism lefties would have noticed but I guess they all died from COVID or something.

*Except Sweden to an extent.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 29, 2021 12:39 PM (ESjRY)

There's such a thing as an anti-globalism lefty?

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 29, 2021 12:41 PM (z5Vrg)

123 The wonder is that ANYBODY believes a damn thing the CDC says anymore. If they announced I'd been exposed to small pox or anthrax, even if they send space suited team I'm going to assume its actually a political arrest and act accordingly at this point unless I feel like I'm on my deathbed.

Posted by: PaleRider, unvaxxed and untested at December 29, 2021 12:41 PM (3cGpq)

124 How about the way that the NIH was doing a controlled study on how effective Ivermectin is? And they had to stop it because they ran out of ivermectin. This is like saying they ran out of asprin and couldn't find any more. Not to mention, when you do a controlled study, you are supposed to round up the needed drugs before you start.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at December 29, 2021 12:41 PM (5HBd1)

125 We had 83 people lined up at a local medi-care who were waiting for testing. You would think they were giving away a million bucks.

Maybe they are. Is this being staged in many cities?

Posted by: t-bird at December 29, 2021 12:41 PM (sTOQ8)

126 Twitter has suspended Dr Robert W Malone account.

Posted by: Rex B at December 29, 2021 12:41 PM (gv0Ka)

127 Milestones in the Cadaver Joe Administration COVID policy: deaths er, positives er, tests!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 29, 2021 12:41 PM (r0ADi)

128 The quick tests are extremely inaccurate and a waste of time. 90% of the people I know, including myself, who took them got a false negative.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 29, 2021 12:41 PM (VpIIl)

129 We're cis-human, I think.
Posted by: t-bird

They're not.

https://bit.ly/3JuHQRO

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at December 29, 2021 12:42 PM (FVME7)

130 11
Binax.

Brought to you by Sonobi.
Posted by: garrett at December 29, 2021 12:23 PM (nHxHu)
.........

Don't take Binax if you're allergic to Binax.

Posted by: wth at December 29, 2021 12:42 PM (v0R5T)

131 Daughter's friend's dad works for the branch of abbott that does those, and I will deny to my death that a few have periodically shown up on the doorstep...

Posted by: JEM at December 29, 2021 12:42 PM (NBJvQ)

132 112 Boy, the polls must be really, really bad for Covid Karen.
Posted by: Cameroom at December 29, 2021 12:39 PM (3dm+3)

==========

"No! Biden's polling is going down because he's not killing unpatriotic Trump supporters in Florida who are murdering good liberals in New York with their covids!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 12:42 PM (LvTSG)

133 Been looking through the archives...

Found one that's definately applicable...

@JayInslee

I just received a call from @VP Mike Pence, thanking Washington state for our efforts to combat the coronavirus.

I told him our work would be more successful if the Trump administration stuck to the science and told the truth.

You look up 'dick' in the dictionary and this guy's picture is there.

Posted by: Tami at February 28, 2020 10:59 AM (cF8AT)

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 29, 2021 12:42 PM (iKhtQ)

134 115 Why the EEF would I go out and spend my good money on an OTC test? I don't give a crap about Covid. I just don't care. If I get it and die, Im one of those poor 0.03% bastards. Otherwise, I got better things to do
Posted by: Diogenes at December 29, 2021 12:39 PM (axyOa)

I went to the doc the other days (I thot it was strep as wife as sick) and no strep. So they asked my to do the WhuFlu test and I asked what Rx would they give me if positive. They stated UTMB does not have a policy on writing Rxs for WhuFlu.

So getting tested has ZERO relationship to treatment.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 29, 2021 12:42 PM (yrol0)

135 "Oh, right!

Posted by: Azathoth at December 29, 2021 12:42 PM (W3VUu)

136 So the science...isn't settled? Can science do That? Isn't that like the question of can God create a rock even He can't lift?

My world is rocked!

/
Posted by: Bete

I know, right! Its like someone standing close to me DIVIDING BY ZERO!!!!!!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 29, 2021 12:42 PM (Vxu+H)

137 Disregard that last comment. Apparently my phone is haunted.

Posted by: Azathoth at December 29, 2021 12:43 PM (W3VUu)

138 I just received an e-mail from the US Census Bureau


You misspelled "Democrat Party Demographics Committee."

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 29, 2021 12:43 PM (C7jzY)

139 732 million tests? And how many people live in the US again? Seems, oh, I dunno, astronomical.
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 29, 2021 12:39 PM (sVtYq)


That's probably about right. I mean, think about it. If there's 30-50M insane hypochondriac Karens out there they're going to be testing themselves every day. They'd be burning through kits like crazy. All of the kits I've seen have only 2 tests, so a good Karen would be burning through 3 a week.

Posted by: clutchx cargox - processed in a facility that may contain leadx at December 29, 2021 12:43 PM (wAnMi)

140 I know, right! Its like someone standing close to me DIVIDING BY ZERO!!!!!!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 29, 2021 12:42 PM (Vxu+H)

*dives for cover*

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at December 29, 2021 12:43 PM (II3Gr)

141 The most ridiculous thing I've seen in Houston is the very long lines of cars at various testing centers. I have to assume it's because employers or someone is mandating a negative test because why would you wait for an hour to get tested if you are asymptomatic ? If you are symptomatic, must not be too bad if you can drive and wait in your car for an hour.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 29, 2021 12:43 PM (VnkJq)

142 BTW who is Chris Cilliza?
Posted by: N.L. Urker at December 29, 2021 12:37 PM (eGTCV)
.......

The original Thumb?

Posted by: wth at December 29, 2021 12:43 PM (v0R5T)

143 My brother was pretty sick -- not hospital worthy, but fever, congested and passed out in bed. He phoned his doc on the same day he was tested and asked for monoclonals (sp?) and was refused.
==
There have been some recent studies reporting that monoclonals don't work on the variants. I would have to read up on them specifically before I placed any trust in those studies. I do know it has popped up in the literature.

Posted by: simplemind at December 29, 2021 12:43 PM (3Msql)

144 Salute the Marine... slowly.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 29, 2021 12:44 PM (UHVv4)

145 125 We had 83 people lined up at a local medi-care who were waiting for testing. You would think they were giving away a million bucks.

Maybe they are. Is this being staged in many cities?
Posted by: t-bird at December 29, 2021 12:41 PM (sTOQ
_______________________
I see this every day in NYC. Long lines of zombies waiting for their fix. But many of these people have no choice. They need constant testing for work or travel. My sister needs a test every week for work. Yes, every week. She hates it but has no choice.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 29, 2021 12:44 PM (iFTx/)

146 What does testing even do?

If your sick, stay away from people. Regardless of if it's Covid or not.

I just don't understand why so much emphasis on knowing if its Covid UNLESS you're some super high risk demographic. Which is like 1% of the population.

Posted by: Cameroom at December 29, 2021 12:44 PM (3dm+3)

147 I'm sure Dr. Malone was spreading misinformation about the vaccine he helped develop.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at December 29, 2021 12:44 PM (5HBd1)

148 Morning.
Willowed.
------
I have never tried making it. I can cook, but baking is not something I've ever done well, so I admire the people who can do that.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 29, 2021 12:19 PM (k49Sx)

Baking is easy enough for a kitchen dunce like me to do.* Proper ingredients, avoid substitutions, exact measurements and then follow the recipe as described. There's a website called Sally's Baking Addiction and she breaks it all down really well with detailed steps. Try it someday, I think you'll be surprised.

*Seriously, I'm lucky I can even boil water. Completely ruined a sirloin on Christmas.

Posted by: Robert, dying a slow and snotty death at December 29, 2021 12:44 PM (1Yy3c)

149

My door to door covid semen test is 100% accurate!

Posted by: Big Gay Al at December 29, 2021 12:44 PM (Z/BA3)

150 Trump would have ensured that there were enough tests to go around.

Whether that's good or bad is not the point. He got things done.

There would be no supply chain crisis is he were in office either.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 29, 2021 12:44 PM (mR6Gs)

151
Don't take Binax if you're allergic to Binax.
Posted by: wth


Take Bipoc instead.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 29, 2021 12:44 PM (63Dwl)

152 Fauci's going for the special Fredo boat ride in 3,2,1.

COVID is one of the things sinking Brandon like a rock. The polling is terrible on it. I am betting they will keep dropping stuff right through the New Year. Next is masking kids and maybe even a mandate withdrawal to moot the SCOTUS case.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 29, 2021 12:45 PM (VpIIl)

153 Interesting... I just received an e-mail from the US Census Bureau asking me to complete a COVID-19 Household Pulse Survey. Supposedly the results will be shared with government agencies to try to form future policy.

https://bit.ly/3FD90DV
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 29, 2021 12:41 PM (Do5/p)
++++
They're going to get tremendously bad data if they ask questions like "are you vaccinated against COVID-19" or "at any point have you felt like your job was at risk due to COVID-19?"

They probably will ask those questions, and will get very unreliable data because nobody for whom the answers to questions like that are "no" will trust that the survey won't be used to bludgeon them if they tell the truth.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 29, 2021 12:45 PM (DU+/6)

154 151
Don't take Binax if you're allergic to Binax.
Posted by: wth

Take Bipoc instead.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 29, 2021 12:44 PM (63Dwl)

Do not take BIPOC if you are allergic to BIPOC or any of its ingredients. Do not take BIPOC if you have white privilege.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at December 29, 2021 12:45 PM (II3Gr)

155 At the rate Joe tells lies, he'll pass Clinton in his first term.

Posted by: BignJames at December 29, 2021 12:46 PM (AwYPR)

156 >>Trump would have ensured that there were enough tests to go around.
>Whether that's good or bad is not the point. He got things done.
>There would be no supply chain crisis is he were in office either.

True.

But.

They wouldn't use the Trump Tests.

Remember the Emergency Hospitals in NY? Why haven't we seen the Comfort leave port once since then?

Posted by: garrett at December 29, 2021 12:46 PM (nHxHu)

157 >>>52 Sorry Ace, but I'm not with you on this. Mass testing of healthy and/or asymptomatic people with dodgy bullshit tests is a terrible idea with no purpose other than to ratchet up hysteria and paranoia.


I swear some of you cannot or will not read.

The policy concerns people who are confirmed to have covid. The policy is about them not getting tested AFTER five days to show they no longer are actively carrying covid.


Also, if you'd read the article, you'd see this is not about "science" or "getting it right;" this is about them having fucked up and not having gotten enough tests (remember when they crucified Trump for that for a FULL YEAR?!?!) and now making up a reason for rationing the tests.

Please read. I'm tired of people slinging their dogmas at me.

Posted by: ace at December 29, 2021 12:46 PM (0G13K)

158 I'm sure Dr. Malone was spreading misinformation about the vaccine he helped develop.
Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at December 29, 2021 12:44 PM (5HBd1)

Just like Trump is telling his cult of mouth-breathing supporters NOT to take the VAX that he brags about every chance he gets.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 29, 2021 12:46 PM (mR6Gs)

159 "Biden lied." The most fitting preface imaginable to any utterance by this individual.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 29, 2021 12:46 PM (KATBx)

160 Disregard that last comment. Apparently my phone is haunted.
Posted by: Azathoth at December 29, 2021 12:43 PM (W3VUu)

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: Alexa at December 29, 2021 12:46 PM (v0R5T)

161
Interesting... I just received an e-mail from the US Census Bureau asking me to complete a COVID-19 Household Pulse Survey. Supposedly the results will be shared with government agencies to try to form future policy.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 29, 2021 12:41 PM


I'm getting emails from Pfizer and Moderna just about every other day. I have a suspicion, slight mind you, that they're bullshit.

I miss the before times when you picked up the envelope, looked at the stamp of the Nigerian President and threw it in the trash.

Posted by: Zombie Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at December 29, 2021 12:47 PM (dQvv7)

162 COVID is one of the things sinking Brandon like a rock. The polling is terrible on it.

-
Hoisted on his own retard.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at December 29, 2021 12:47 PM (FVME7)

163 Cooking is art. Baking is science. Follow the recipe, and the baked goods will probably be fine. Baking is a lot more like using a chemistry set than cooking is. I am not putting down baking, by the way - it's just a different beast than cooking.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 29, 2021 12:47 PM (DU+/6)

164 I have a BIL that got deathly ill, like ER sick. Tough guy, doesn't run to the doctor for every ache and pain. Just wasn't bouncing back, has heart issues. But wasn't Covid. Friend is a doctor and on a hospital board, he conceded they basically just tell you to go home unless it's Covid. He went to ER, they basically just shrug their shoulders and tell him to leave because its not Covid.

Our entire medical community just the Covid Corp now.

Posted by: Cameroom at December 29, 2021 12:47 PM (3dm+3)

165 If I had any say in things...

You got omicron? You cute and female? I want immediate physical contact. I will risk the consequences. Including establishing a trust to fund the education of what might be produced.

It's not a thing. Live your life.

Posted by: JEM at December 29, 2021 12:47 PM (NBJvQ)

166 The quick tests are extremely inaccurate and a waste of time. 90% of the people I know, including myself, who took them got a false negative.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 29, 2021 12:41 PM (VpIIl

More than 90% of people who took the test were actually Covid positive?

Posted by: Just a side note at December 29, 2021 12:47 PM (VnkJq)

167 My understanding is that the "Rapid Anal Swab" tests are more reliable than the q-tip up the nose. Someone should send a sample to Chris Cillizza. Looks like he needs one, or several.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 29, 2021 12:48 PM (BFigT)

168 The quick tests are extremely inaccurate and a waste of time. 90% of the people I know, including myself, who took them got a false negative.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 29, 2021 12:41 PM (VpIIl)


Exactly. I had an event I'd planned on going to for 2 f*ing years in September. Just days before I was leaving, a client called and said he had a "breakthrough" case along with his 2 year old son. I'd just spent the better part of a morning riding around in his family SUV getting shit at home despot the week before.

So, not wanting to catch it while I was gone - or give it to people I went and got a $150 instant 15 minute test at a test center. I tested positive. I was devastated I couldn't go, canceled my reservations. A week later I still felt fine - went and got a 24 hour test, and it was negative. So, false positive. And THEN I find out that's super common. F* this.

Posted by: clutchx cargox - processed in a facility that may contain leadx at December 29, 2021 12:48 PM (wAnMi)

169 Once again...this is the wrong effing test. Unless Pfizer and Moderna have been lying (we'll know in 55 years)...they have identified the spike protein that combats the Covid virus naturally. Therefore, the only test we need is a simple blood test that identifies whether you possess sufficient (and strong enough) spike proteins to naturally fight the virus....eventually leading to a natural immunity.

Those without the appropriate natural defenses are free to secure the "vaccine" and take the appropriate action to lessen exposure.

There, I saved everyone two years of totalitarianism...and stole billions from Moderna and Pfizer to boot.

Posted by: Orson at December 29, 2021 12:48 PM (jE+8t)

170 Not to mention, when you do a controlled study, you are supposed to round up the needed drugs before you start.
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Trump says drinking Roundup cures Covid!!!

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 29, 2021 12:48 PM (UHVv4)

171 My parents, God bless them, bought me a long sleeve tee shirt from my alma mater for Christmas. I didn't notice it at first, but when I put it on, the material was so thin it became translucent. My nips are most definitely visible through it...maybe I'll wear it to the beach or something....

Posted by: Mishdog at December 29, 2021 12:48 PM (/VWLE)

172 Pureblood is bad?

It is, imo, when it is used to subtly debase others, like, Ace, who has said he has had the vaccine and boosters.

Waiting and in many instances here, reveling in the possible future side-effects of the vaccine on the people that have chosen to be vaccinated is wrong.

Posted by: old chick at December 29, 2021 12:48 PM (sOete)

173 So getting tested has ZERO relationship to treatment.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 29, 2021 12:42 PM

But it does have a relationship to upping the "COVID cases" count to spread further fear and hysteria.

I bet the Branch Covidians have been absolutely loving all the free fear and hysteria publicity that's been coming from all the pro sports leagues these past couple months with all the game postponements and forfeits and players forced to sit out, as well as all the bowls being cancelled in college football.

I have been convinced for over a year now that that is the only reason to keep testing, to keep the hyteria and fear going.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 29, 2021 12:49 PM (Do5/p)

174 I swear some of you cannot or will not read.

-
Reading is acting white.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at December 29, 2021 12:49 PM (FVME7)

175 "So the science...isn't settled? Can science do That? Isn't that like the question of can God create a rock even He can't lift?
Posted by: Bete"



Don't eat eggs. The cholesterol will kill you!

Posted by: Ripley at December 29, 2021 12:49 PM (MxEKc)

176 >>>But wasn't Covid. Friend is a doctor and on a hospital board, he conceded they basically just tell you to go home unless it's Covid. He went to ER, they basically just shrug their shoulders and tell him to leave because its not Covid.

kinda-sorta happened to me, in basic outline, almost killed me.

Posted by: ace at December 29, 2021 12:49 PM (0G13K)

177 I swear some of you cannot or will not read.

The policy concerns people who are confirmed to have covid. The policy is about them not getting tested AFTER five days to show they no longer are actively carrying covid.


Ace, this covers me as I tested positive on Christmas Day using a home test.

I ran around all morning looking for a place that does testing and they were all either filled to capacity for the day, or no longer doing testing "until further notice."

Yup, they are doing this to cover up for Brandon

Posted by: JoeF. at December 29, 2021 12:49 PM (mR6Gs)

178 "More than 90% of people who took the test were actually Covid positive?

Posted by: Just a side note at December 29, 2021 12:47 PM (VnkJq) "

Yes. Almost ever person in my orbit who was COVID positive got a negative quick test including me. I knew I had it based on the way I felt and started taking the Z Pak before the PCR even came back.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 29, 2021 12:49 PM (VpIIl)

179 *types*

*deletes*

Posted by: Muldoon at December 29, 2021 12:50 PM (m45I2)

180 133 Been looking through the archives...

Found one that's definately applicable...
@JayInslee

I just received a call from @VP Mike Pence, thanking Washington state for our efforts to combat the coronavirus.
I told him our work would be more successful if the Trump administration stuck to the science and told the truth.
You look up 'dick' in the dictionary and this guy's picture is there.
Posted by: Tami at February 28, 2020 10:59 AM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 29, 2021 12:42 PM (iKhtQ)
***

Tami wasn't wrong. Inslee is a dick.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 29, 2021 12:50 PM (axyOa)

181 Until people start accepting the fact that all of this was a political scam from the beginning, then faux- controversies like this keep being in the news.

I guess people have fallen in love with being mentally paralyzed with fear.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 29, 2021 12:50 PM (Fs5vw)

182 Posted by: ace at December 29, 2021 12:46 PM (0G13K)

For the record I thought your post was clear.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 29, 2021 12:50 PM (VnkJq)

183 The shitty part is, a large part of the population that isn't eternally broken by Covid will buy that Biden did in fact defeat the virus come February and it'll be like the past two years never happened.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 29, 2021 12:50 PM (uiMEx)

184 My parents, God bless them, bought me a long sleeve tee shirt from my alma mater for Christmas. I didn't notice it at first, but when I put it on, the material was so thin it became translucent. My nips are most definitely visible through it...maybe I'll wear it to the beach or something....
Posted by: Mishdog at December 29, 2021 12:48 PM (/VWLE)

Pics?

Posted by: JoeF. at December 29, 2021 12:50 PM (mR6Gs)

185 It's okay. Biden waved the magic wand of the Defense Production Act to get more tests.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 29, 2021 12:51 PM (DU+/6)

186 So I take it that the one positive poll area for the senile old pedophile, covid, has gone upside down and upside down very badly.

And yes they democommies do follow the science, THE POLITICAL SCIENCE.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at December 29, 2021 12:51 PM (iDcra)

187 For the record I thought your post was clear.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 29, 2021 12:50 PM (VnkJq)


Same here. I just think the whole testing thing sets people off.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 29, 2021 12:51 PM (Ez6QX)

188 'm really tired of the "Covid is Completely Fake" lobby. You see right there the selective editing they have to do to justify their position.

Can we at least agree that a guy who RAN ON A PLATFORM of accusing Trump of "willful mass murder" and having "blood on his hands" for not having enough tests when he was president should be held to his own standard and have enough tests to not invent new "science" to justify rationing tests?

Or are we just going to congratulate Brandon for his wisdom here?

Jesus.

Posted by: ace at December 29, 2021 12:51 PM (0G13K)

189 I have to say the last couple of days of watching Leftist Twitter melt down over this is hilarious. One can only imagine the g-forces involved in worshiping the CDC in one moment and then accusing them of trying to kill everyone in the next.

It's equal parts of people wanting to stay in the Matrix and people standing there hearing a sad trombone like Kurt Russell when he finds out Plutoxin 7 is a bad cold.

Posted by: Azathoth at December 29, 2021 12:52 PM (W3VUu)

190 The shitty part is, a large part of the population that isn't eternally broken by Covid will buy that Biden did in fact defeat the virus come February and it'll be like the past two years never happened.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 29, 2021 12:50 PM (uiMEx)

Maybe, but it's going to be really tough stuffing that bologna back into the package

Posted by: JoeF. at December 29, 2021 12:52 PM (mR6Gs)

191 My understanding is that the "Rapid Anal Swab" tests are more reliable than the q-tip up the nose. Someone should send a sample to Chris Cillizza. Looks like he needs one, or several.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 29, 2021 12:48 PM

Wasn't that something that was brought up months ago, that the Chinese use that type of test on people? I remember a lot of jokes being made about that.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 29, 2021 12:52 PM (Do5/p)

192 This Asian lady in black has never gotten a COVID test and hopes asymptomatic testing declines so one will be available if she catches ill:
https://is.gd/fj72Ke

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 29, 2021 12:52 PM (DU+/6)

193 Been looking through the archives...

You look up 'dick' in the dictionary and this guy's picture is there.

Posted by: Tami at February 28, 2020 10:59 AM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 29, 2021 12:42 PM (iKhtQ)
*******
Wait??? How are you able to access old comments. I thought we weren't able to do that anymore.
*sigh* I really do miss Tami.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 29, 2021 12:53 PM (NpAcC)

194 kinda-sorta happened to me, in basic outline, almost killed me.
Posted by: ace at December 29, 2021 12:49 PM (0G13K)

What sort of symptoms did you have?

Luckily, I was "mostly dead" so they wheeled me in.

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at December 29, 2021 12:53 PM (QYPq3)

195 What good are tests when the Sleepy Joe Administration wants to jab everybody regardless of status?

In related news, my sweaty balls are a consequence of global warming.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 29, 2021 12:53 PM (r0ADi)

196 But wasn't Covid. Friend is a doctor and on a hospital board, he conceded they basically just tell you to go home unless it's Covid. He went to ER, they basically just shrug their shoulders and tell him to leave because its not Covid.

kinda-sorta happened to me, in basic outline, almost killed me.
Posted by: ace

++++

I've never had a dimmer view of the field of health care than I have after all of this. Right now, lawyers aren't looking so bad.

Posted by: Cameroom at December 29, 2021 12:53 PM (3dm+3)

197 Just an FYI, going to the doctor less frequently can be a good thing. Have you seen a lot of dialysis clinics? Those are to treat the patients that had their kidneys ruined by the meds they were prescribed. And they don't bother to monitor you for kidney damage either. Go if you are truly sick. If they prescribe drugs, do the research on them. And don't be afraid to fire your doctor and go elsewhere.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at December 29, 2021 12:53 PM (5HBd1)

198 What's really going on here?

Oh, right: "The Science" is lying to us again. Or rather, The Politics: Brandon dropped the ball on ordering up an adequate supply of tests, and now we don't have enough tests to test all the people who are about to get omicron.
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Third possibility: the "experts" don't know WTF they're doing.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 29, 2021 12:53 PM (6/r1z)

199 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 29, 2021 12:53 PM (Zz0t1)

200 182 Posted by: ace at December 29, 2021 12:46 PM (0G13K)

For the record I thought your post was clear.

thank you. I thought so too. It requires selective reading and a commitment to advancing one's ideological obsession in all contexts to decide that I'm talking about "testing willy-nilly when asymptomatic."

Also, I'm not telling anyone to test. I'm commenting on Brandon, who crucified Trump for a YEAR for not having enough tests, himself not having enough tests, and directing his fake scientist bureaucrats to make up some Political Science to explain why The New Science says this is all just perfect and going as planned.

Posted by: ace at December 29, 2021 12:54 PM (0G13K)

201 Fuck Joe Biden.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 29, 2021 12:54 PM (Zz0t1)

202 Posted by: clutchx cargox - processed in a facility that may contain leadx at December 29, 2021 12:48 PM (wAnMi)

Yes it was my understanding that these tests mostly show false positives rather than false negatives though the inaccuracies does go both ways.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 29, 2021 12:54 PM (VnkJq)

203 You got omicron? You cute and female? I want immediate physical contact. I will risk the consequences. Including establishing a trust to fund the education of what might be produced.

It's not a thing. Live your life.


And in saying that I will note that I spent damn near a month 'quarantined' (ten days out of state when I was symptomatic though hiking a mile a day away from people, and fourteen days when I came back to the People's Republic of California) exactly a year ago, and I've done the vaccine and every Moderna shot was two days of anything worse than I experienced from the China Pox, and I'm old and immunocompromised, so I should be dead.

Get out and get some exercise and fornicate with someone covid positive.

Posted by: JEM at December 29, 2021 12:54 PM (NBJvQ)

204 Maybe, but it's going to be really tough stuffing that bologna back into the package
Posted by: JoeF.

Not for Mr Slave!

Posted by: Big Gay Al at December 29, 2021 12:54 PM (Z/BA3)

205 Take Bipoc instead.

Side effects include headache, nausea, drive by shootings, heart attacks, bad neighborhoods, anal leakage and death.

Posted by: Bipoc at December 29, 2021 12:54 PM (v0R5T)

206 Please read. I'm tired of people slinging their dogmas at me.
Posted by: ace at December 29, 2021 12:46 PM (0G13K)


Can I find a dogma trebuchet on Amazon?
Because that sounds cool.

Posted by: clutchx cargox - processed in a facility that may contain leadx at December 29, 2021 12:55 PM (wAnMi)

207 Someone should ask Psaki if the WH intends to mirror the CDC recommendations for folks coming to the WH for briefings/meetings and if not, why.

Posted by: CDR M (Retired) at December 29, 2021 12:55 PM (FndDK)

208 The natives are restless!

POLITICO
@politico
Republicans across America are pressing local jurisdictions and state lawmakers to make typically sleepy school board races into politicized, partisan elections in an attempt to gain more statewide control and swing them to victory in the 2022 midterms

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at December 29, 2021 12:55 PM (FVME7)

209 Joe blinded me with SCIENCE!

Posted by: Joe Mama at December 29, 2021 12:55 PM (WmGrA)

210 The shitty part is, a large part of the population that isn't eternally broken by Covid will buy that Biden did in fact defeat the virus come February and it'll be like the past two years never happened.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 29, 2021 12:50 PM (uiMEx)


The deaths will all be Trump's fault, because he didn't fire Fauci soon enough. Poor Stinkfinger was hobbled with a loudmouth Trumpster 'doctor' devoted to destroying his presidency.

Hear me now, believe me later.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 29, 2021 12:55 PM (2JVJo)

211 >>>What sort of symptoms did you have?

very bad and very long-lasting flu symptoms. Sort of covid-like symptoms, and then when I tested negative, they were like fuck off, here's your next round of methprednisone (that didn't work last time)

Posted by: ace at December 29, 2021 12:56 PM (0G13K)

212 208 POLITICO
@politico
Republicans across America are pressing local jurisdictions and state lawmakers to make typically sleepy school board races into politicized, partisan elections in an attempt to gain more statewide control and swing them to victory in the 2022 midterms
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at December 29, 2021 12:55 PM (FVME7)

========

"It was better when leftists just had complete control and twisted American education into hating America."
-Non-partisan press

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 12:56 PM (LvTSG)

213 Also, I'm not telling anyone to test. I'm commenting on Brandon, who crucified Trump for a YEAR for not having enough tests, himself not having enough tests, and directing his fake scientist bureaucrats to make up some Political Science to explain why The New Science says this is all just perfect and going as planned.
Posted by: ace at December 29, 2021 12:54 PM (0G13K)
++++
Yeah, it's clear. And it also exposes the magical thinking of the Biden campaign and his handlers. They were certain that things like this - test availability, drug availability, policy coherence, etc. - were simply because Trump was stupid. I am starting to think that they thought all of this was just because the Wrong Guy was running things, and that as soon as the Right Guy was running things, everything would be fine. I am starting to think that they really did think that all they had to do was say, "we shall have more tests" or "we shall have more medicines" and then they'd appear as if by magic.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 29, 2021 12:56 PM (DU+/6)

214 My work JUST SENT their CDC guidelines for Covid. They are requiring tests if your not vaxxed and no test if you are, but masks all the time.

Guess they'll be sending out another email.

I'll go back to the office once in a while if I don't have to test.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 29, 2021 12:56 PM (Zz0t1)

215
I've known all along the tests were no more dependable then the magic 8 ball. Why test if you feel fine? It's in the air, it's everywhere.

The people who got the vax really ought to study up on VAED. That's gonna be the issue that cracks the pharma immunity.

Posted by: Zombie Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at December 29, 2021 12:56 PM (dQvv7)

216 Workplace just announced this morning that due to a problem with people testing positive for Covid, we're all back to work from home until further notice.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at December 29, 2021 12:56 PM (SchxB)

217 @188

>>I'm really tired of the "Covid is Completely Fake" lobby. You see right there the selective editing they have to do to justify their position.

The Virus is real, everything surrounding it has been a Political Op supported and perpetuated by a compliant and complicit Scientific and Medical community.

We're now entering the third year of this monstrosity and I fear the psychological damage this has done to large swaths of the West may permanent.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 29, 2021 12:56 PM (iKhtQ)

218 So, how many people *entered* quarantine based on a 12-week-old test result?

Posted by: Texas99 at December 29, 2021 12:56 PM (VRg+C)

219 COVID is real...just like Influenza A or B.

The pandemic is fake.

Posted by: creeper at December 29, 2021 12:57 PM (cTCuP)

220 Or are we just going to congratulate Brandon for his wisdom here?

I'd congratulate the useless old bastard for not shitting himself - if I thought he'd actually make it to that particular finish line today.

Posted by: Mr. Obvious at December 29, 2021 12:57 PM (NB7Tx)

221 Dolmas are for eating, not slinging.

Posted by: Greek Illiterate at December 29, 2021 12:57 PM (QU5/8)

222 Chris Cillizza.....does he pronounce his name like pizza?

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 29, 2021 12:57 PM (Zz0t1)

223
very bad and very long-lasting flu symptoms. Sort of covid-like symptoms, and then when I tested negative, they were like fuck off, here's your next round of methprednisone (that didn't work last time)

Posted by: ace at December 29, 2

Did they test you for the flu? My niece is working in the ER and she told me they have a lot of patients with bad flu. I forget what she called it. YMMV

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 29, 2021 12:57 PM (oeVy+)

224
I ran around all morning looking for a place that does testing and they were all either filled to capacity for the day, or no longer doing testing "until further notice."

Yup, they are doing this to cover up for Brandon
Posted by: JoeF. at December 29, 2021 12:49 PM (mR6G

OMG! What are you going to do?! What are you going to do?!

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 29, 2021 12:58 PM (Fs5vw)

225 Brandon managed this as a political op from the beginning. That's why it's such a shitty mess. They managed the "science" to fulfill their political objectives and campaign promises. They knew the media would not call them on it. They knew they could count on social media to censor anything that challenged their narratives- they're still doing it.

That's before we get to the fact that Brandon continuously lied about things like mandates and every other thing he said in the campaign. It's grotesque incompetence and the only "wins" Brandon managed came because the former administration did as good a job as could be expected.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 29, 2021 12:58 PM (VpIIl)

226 I don't think Biden is going to be able to run on Covid, people are going to have a really bad taste in their mouth on all of it.

Someone like DeSantis is going to be the leadership that looks wise.

Biden or Democrats talking about their Covid policies for 2022 and beyond are going to be like a NeoCon today talking about how great the decision was to invade Iraq.

Posted by: Cameroom at December 29, 2021 12:58 PM (3dm+3)

227 @208

>>The natives are restless!

Or alternatively...

The GOP may be morphing into a legitimate political party and Deep Donk is sounding the alarm.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 29, 2021 12:58 PM (iKhtQ)

228 @politico
Republicans across America are pressing local jurisdictions and state lawmakers to make typically sleepy school board races into politicized, partisan elections in an attempt to gain more statewide control and swing them to victory in the 2022 midterms
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at December 29, 2021 12:55 PM (FVME7)
++++
:: fires up translator ::

"People have noticed that school boards are almost uniformly evil and are fighting back against them since that discovery. As a result, this is now a battle ground whereas it used to just be a quiet, constant machine of leftist oppression. This discovery and the reaction to it are unconscionable."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 29, 2021 12:58 PM (DU+/6)

229 POLITICO
@politico
Republicans across America are pressing local jurisdictions and state lawmakers to make typically sleepy school board races into politicized, partisan elections in an attempt to gain more statewide control and swing them to victory in the 2022 midterms
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at December 29, 2021 12:55 PM (FVME7)

How dare they!

Posted by: JoeF. at December 29, 2021 12:58 PM (mR6Gs)

230 The PCR test can't differentiate between Chinese Root Rot and the flu.

It's been known for a long time that the tests produce a yuge number of false positives. Yesterday comes a report that it ALSO produces a large number of false negatives.

Yet this test determines most if not all of our public policies regarding Covid.

Wouldn't it be cheaper to determine our policies by reading chicken entrails?

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at December 29, 2021 12:58 PM (sWM8x)

231 217 We're now entering the third year of this monstrosity and I fear the psychological damage this has done to large swaths of the West may permanent.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 29, 2021 12:56 PM (iKhtQ)

=======

Hence, the stop and start effort in the upper echelons of the Democratic Party to declare victory over covid that have been going on for months now, since summer.

They've convinced large swaths of their base that there is no victory over covid. They never said it, but it was the implication of pretty much every messaging push since the vaccines came out and they said that non-vaccinated people can get vaccinated people sick. The golden arrow to take out the evil monster didn't work, and there are no more golden arrows.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 12:58 PM (LvTSG)

232 Btw I thought I heard one of the tests had a toxic agent in it.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 29, 2021 12:22 PM (BmQ4L)

Somebody claimed that test kits contained sodium azide ("a dangerous drug"). Somehow I doubt that it could be found on the swab you stick into your nose. More likely a reagent that "develops" the test. "Toxic" chemicals are harmless, if they don't enter your body.

The airbags on your car contain sodium azide. Feel poisoned yet?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2021 12:59 PM (P3gRi)

233 This Asian lady in black has never gotten a COVID test and hopes asymptomatic testing declines so one will be available if she catches ill:
https://is.gd/fj72Ke
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 29, 2021 12:52 PM (DU+/6)
........

Looks healthy to me.

Posted by: wth at December 29, 2021 12:59 PM (v0R5T)

234 I'm tired of people slinging their dogmas at me.

Posted by: ace at December 29, 2021 12:46 PM

Slinging dogmas

Is that like swinging a dead cat? Monkeys flinging poo?

Can't sling any dogmas here without hitting a poo-flinging monkey.

I'll stop, as I may just be beating a dead horse.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 29, 2021 12:59 PM (Do5/p)

235 Biden or Democrats talking about their Covid policies for 2022 and beyond are going to be like a NeoCon today talking about how great the decision was to invade Iraq.
Posted by: Cameroom at December 29, 2021 12:58 PM (3dm+3)

Great point

Posted by: JoeF. at December 29, 2021 12:59 PM (mR6Gs)

236 227 The GOP may be morphing into a legitimate political party and Deep Donk is sounding the alarm.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 29, 2021 12:58 PM (iKhtQ)

==========

*tinfoil hat on*

Mitch is organizing all of this!

*tinfoil hat bursts into laughter*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 12:59 PM (LvTSG)

237 Let's lighten up this affair of dogmas.

The correct Christianity is ____.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 01:00 PM (LvTSG)

238 Speaking of tests, how about a cognitive test for the intellectual giant in the White House before he shows up for work?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 29, 2021 01:00 PM (OTXUv)

239 The airbags on your car contain sodium azide. Feel poisoned yet?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2021 12:59 PM (P3gRi)
++++
Yes. The asbestos around my pipes in the wall is also killing me despite never being touched or stirred up. It's mere presence is lethal.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 29, 2021 01:00 PM (DU+/6)

240 Hear me now, believe me later.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 29, 2021 12:55 PM (2JVJo)


If that's what it takes to get Fauci gone and crucified, I'll take it. Because our side has hated him since the get-go, and the left (all of whom probably have Fauci action figures, votive candles or t-shirts) will be relentless in their pursuit of this warty little gargoyle.

Posted by: clutchx cargox - processed in a facility that may contain leadx at December 29, 2021 01:00 PM (wAnMi)

241 I swear some of you cannot or will not read.
==
Literacy privilege.

Posted by: Wow. Just Wow. at December 29, 2021 01:01 PM (J6xvJ)

242 My brother in law said that his second dose of vax made him feel like he was going to die. He is not a flippant person and usually understates everything. He has had ringing in his ears ever since that jab. The doctor he went to about these symptoms "gave him permission to not worry about it." He has had a severe vaccine injury and the doctor gave him permission to not worry about it.... as he can't sleep for the past 3 weeks from the ringing in his ears.

The medical community is in on this.... it's like Fauci has been placing his disciples in clinics and hospitals around the country. Something has definitely shifted.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at December 29, 2021 01:01 PM (sI15f)

243 My karma ran over your dogma.

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at December 29, 2021 01:01 PM (II3Gr)

244 I'm with ace on this one. Partisan bullshit all the way down. They will say an do anything that makes things easy for themselves. Fuck the truth and fuck the American people. I have whatever is less than just normal contempt for the biden junta. Maybe white hot hate.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at December 29, 2021 01:01 PM (0OmEj)

245 It's an iron law. If the US federal government says "X," then "other than X" is the truth.

Posted by: Yudhishtira's Dice at December 29, 2021 01:01 PM (hQ23g)

246 I find it both satisfying and galling that CNN has finally admitted the cloth masks are nothing more than a "facial ornament". For two frigging years they lectured, browbeat and tried to humiliate those of us who actually did know the science of masks and coronaviruses and now they just blithely admit they were lying all along.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 29, 2021 01:01 PM (ZLI7S)

247 I've known all along the tests were no more dependable then the magic 8 ball. Why test if you feel fine? It's in the air, it's everywhere.

No kidding. At best - it shows that you've been exposed to COVID - not that you've caught it.

Posted by: Mr. Obvious at December 29, 2021 01:01 PM (NB7Tx)

248 192 This Asian lady in black has never gotten a COVID test and hopes asymptomatic testing declines so one will be available if she catches ill:
https://is.gd/fj72Ke
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)


I'm not quite sure what I can say about this.

To my daughter about that age and similar in many ways "hi, this is my new girlfriend"

I need to go rattle some beads...

Posted by: JEM at December 29, 2021 01:02 PM (NBJvQ)

249 The battle going forward won't be between big gov't and rightwing patriots over these ridiculous Covid restrictions. The battle will be between big gov't and the tens of millions of leftwingers driven batshit-crazy insane by two years of big gov't-fueled hysteria and paranoia over what amounts to the flu.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 29, 2021 12:29 PM (iFTx/)

Thunderous applause!

Posted by: creeper at December 29, 2021 01:02 PM (cTCuP)

250 The dogma ate my baby.

Posted by: Sheila at December 29, 2021 01:02 PM (v0R5T)

251 Cooking is art. Baking is science. Follow the recipe, and the baked goods will probably be fine. Baking is a lot more like using a chemistry set than cooking is. I am not putting down baking, by the way - it's just a different beast than cooking.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 29, 2021 12:47 PM (DU+/6)

With Baking you might say...*clears throat*

FOLLOW THE SCIENCE!!!!!!

Posted by: Robert, dying a slow and snotty death at December 29, 2021 01:02 PM (1Yy3c)

252 Let's lighten up this affair of dogmas.

The correct Christianity is ____.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 01:00 PM (LvTSG)

9mm?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at December 29, 2021 01:03 PM (XvPQV)

253 41 The most ridiculous thing I've seen in Houston is the very long lines of cars at various testing centers. I have to assume it's because employers or someone is mandating a negative test because why would you wait for an hour to get tested if you are asymptomatic ? If you are symptomatic, must not be too bad if you can drive and wait in your car for an hour.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 29, 2021 12:43 PM (VnkJq)
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That's been true here in SoCal. We presumed it resulted from people needing to get tested to fly somewhere.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 29, 2021 01:03 PM (YqDXo)

254 Hmm, just saw Harry Reid passed away. Types, deletes, no, may he burn in Hell.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at December 29, 2021 01:03 PM (XSRBF)

255 They did a study that shows people with Type B blood have a greater chance of false NEGATIVES with these tests. No idea why.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at December 29, 2021 01:03 PM (5HBd1)

256 I have no doubt that all 500 million test kits met with six sigma inspection and compliance strategies because a defective product and lax quality standards would most assuredly be noticed when liability issues led to injury and death.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 29, 2021 01:03 PM (r0ADi)

257 I saw Three Dogma Night open for Karma Ghia at Philosophy Hall in 1842.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 29, 2021 01:03 PM (OTXUv)

258 I'm tired of people slinging their dogmas at me.
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Among other things you want us to FAST.

I mean, the reading is just a bridge to far man.

Posted by: Wow. Just Wow. at December 29, 2021 01:03 PM (Lapzy)

259 prednisone without an antibiotic? Hmm, never been prescribed that. I used to get sinus infections every couple of years. Once I would convince the HMO that this is sinus and no its not viral, antibiotics and prednisone. Knock on wood they reduced to more like every 5-7 years, probably over 7 since my last one.

Posted by: PaleRider, unvaxxed and untested at December 29, 2021 01:04 PM (3cGpq)

260 246 I find it both satisfying and galling that CNN has finally admitted the cloth masks are nothing more than a "facial ornament". For two frigging years they lectured, browbeat and tried to humiliate those of us who actually did know the science of masks and coronaviruses and now they just blithely admit they were lying all along.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 29, 2021 01:01 PM (ZLI7S)

More than that they're probably terribly unsanitary. Like the cloth bags for groceries thing.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 29, 2021 01:04 PM (z5Vrg)

261 >>>The most ridiculous thing I've seen in Houston is the very long lines of cars at various testing centers.


I mean, wouldn't you wait for some symptoms before rushing to get a Xi test? What the hell is wrong with people?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at December 29, 2021 01:04 PM (XSRBF)

262 252 Let's lighten up this affair of dogmas.

The correct Christianity is ____.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 01:00 PM (LvTSG)

9mm?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at December 29, 2021 01:03 PM (XvPQV)

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The Knights Templar will return...in For Your Blood Only.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 01:04 PM (LvTSG)

263 "245 It's an iron law. If the US federal government says "X," then "other than X" is the truth."

Posted by: Yudhishtira's Dice at December 29, 2021 01:01 PM (hQ23g)



I feel like this, too. I think the day the feds determine that we're safe from COVID is the day I change my mind and start believing it really is the most dangerous virus ever.

Posted by: Texas99 at December 29, 2021 01:04 PM (VRg+C)

264 It does go both ways. Nephew's son and son's fiance tested negative with the rapid test. Illness ramped up. Took the other test and it was positive. Cold symptoms for days and loss of taste and smell. Why yes, you ask, yes they were vaxxed. Don't know if they've had the booster.

Posted by: neverenoughcaffeine at December 29, 2021 01:04 PM (2NHgQ)

265 I got a call this morning from the receptionist of a cardiologist that my meeting with him next week will be a "virtual" one. He's a cardio guy with a specialty of electric impulses causing the heart to beat and this is following other doctors getting my arrhythmic heartbeat under control and I guess there's no need for me to be there since he has access to echocardiogram results. But it was kind of disconcerting.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at December 29, 2021 01:04 PM (y7DUB)

266 This Asian lady in black has never gotten a COVID test and hopes asymptomatic testing declines so one will be available if she catches ill:
https://is.gd/fj72Ke
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 29, 2021 12:52 PM (DU+/6)


Kim Un yeah baby!

Posted by: Archer at December 29, 2021 01:05 PM (gmo/4)

267 Posted by: Marcus T at December 29, 2021 12:58 PM (VpIIl)

The sad fact is that now EVERYTHING is political, because the Government regulates everything.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 29, 2021 01:05 PM (oHd/0)

268 Robert,

Get Xlear. It's for the sinuses and they make a couple of types of it. It really works. And if you get the max strength, with cayenne in it, it doesn't hurt. Just stings.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at December 29, 2021 01:05 PM (5HBd1)

269 The Knights Templar will return...in For Your Blood Only.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 01:04 PM (LvTSG)

This is about Morbius, isn't it?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at December 29, 2021 01:05 PM (XvPQV)

270 People, people, people. We all know that everything we hear about the Rona has been complete bullshit. Ev-ry-thing. From all sides.

Posted by: Napoleon XIV at December 29, 2021 01:05 PM (AiZBA)

271 >>More than that they're probably terribly unsanitary. Like the cloth bags for groceries thing.

Absolutely. It was actually anti-science, particularly for kids.

And now we have an epidemic of used masks everywhere.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 29, 2021 01:05 PM (ZLI7S)

272 The airbags on your car contain sodium azide.




But seriously, all sodium azide. . .

Posted by: Sheckie Green at December 29, 2021 01:05 PM (OTXUv)

273 >>>his Asian lady in black has never gotten a COVID test and hopes asymptomatic testing declines so one will be available if she catches ill:
https://is.gd/fj72Ke
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Wow, she is outstanding!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at December 29, 2021 01:06 PM (XSRBF)

274 Well, for almost two years I've been saying that this Covid Travesty was going to end when it's no longer beneficial to the people who have been keeping it going.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 29, 2021 01:06 PM (mR6Gs)

275
That's been true here in SoCal. We presumed it resulted from people needing to get tested to fly somewhere.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 29, 2021 01:03 PM (YqDXo)

That's what I think. Our workman comp doctors will send a nurse to my office and test us in the parking lot. No line but I pay 300 or so for each test.

Posted by: CaliGirl at December 29, 2021 01:06 PM (oeVy+)

276 269 The Knights Templar will return...in For Your Blood Only.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 01:04 PM (LvTSG)

This is about Morbius, isn't it?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at December 29, 2021 01:05 PM (XvPQV)

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I have almost precisely zero interest in Morbius.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 01:06 PM (LvTSG)

277 I know, right! Its like someone standing close to me DIVIDING BY ZERO!!!!!!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 29, 2021 12:42 PM


UNCLEAN!!! UNCLEAN!!!

Posted by: Stack Overflow at December 29, 2021 01:06 PM (a3Q+t)

278 Swing your partner do-si-do. Sling your dogma as you go.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 29, 2021 01:06 PM (63Dwl)

279
I mean, wouldn't you wait for some symptoms before rushing to get a Xi test? What the hell is wrong with people?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp
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I have a family member that basically got Covid from all the testing centers they went to.

It was like going to "confession" or something.

Posted by: Cameroom at December 29, 2021 01:06 PM (3dm+3)

280 Can we at least agree that a guy who RAN ON A PLATFORM of accusing Trump of "willful mass murder" and having "blood on his hands" for not having enough tests when he was president should be held to his own standard and have enough tests to not invent new "science" to justify rationing tests?
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I agree with this as a political stance, to score political points.

But the best thing for the country would be to just come a consensus that COVID is endemic. It's everywhere. Some are going to die from it, the vast majority will not. We don't need testing, or draconian measures. We need only use the basic common sense that people should have to stay home from work when they're sick. We need to get back to normal and mass testing doesn't allow for that.

We need to shrug our shoulders about COVID, put our pants on and live our lives anyway, with no special measures mandated or required.

Posted by: Revenant at December 29, 2021 01:06 PM (cOGHc)

281 157 >>>52 Sorry Ace, but I'm not with you on this. Mass testing of healthy and/or asymptomatic people with dodgy bullshit tests is a terrible idea with no purpose other than to ratchet up hysteria and paranoia.


I swear some of you cannot or will not read.

The policy concerns people who are confirmed to have covid. The policy is about them not getting tested AFTER five days to show they no longer are actively carrying covid.

Posted by: ace at December 29, 2021 12:46 PM (0G13K)
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I did read. Every word. The tests are bullshit regardless whether it's testing people after they have already "tested" positive or not. Way too many false positives, including because the tests are not capable of distinguishing between CV19 and other illnesses (flu). Every call for "more testing" of asymptomatic people (whether before or after a "positive" test) is nothing but a naked call to further hysteria.

And nowhere did I give Biden credit for anything. I specifically said the CDC hasn't gone far enough to end this hysteria.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 29, 2021 01:06 PM (iFTx/)

282 The "medical community" and especially public medicine has been proven to be dog shit. They've gone from being some of the most trusted people, to being proven idiots, biased partisans and outright cowards.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 29, 2021 01:06 PM (VpIIl)

283 When the surge was in the south a few months ago - "Those unvaxxed hicks deserve to suffer"

When it's on the NE - "Let's cut them some slack, we don't want to destroy businesses"

Posted by: 29Victor at December 29, 2021 01:06 PM (BJKQV)

284 Personally, I've checked out on posting about the covid as most people have their mind made up irregardless of facts. Thus most of what people are hurling at each other is pure rhetoric.

Sorry for you Ace.

Posted by: whig at December 29, 2021 01:06 PM (3If03)

285 I saw the Slinging Dogmas open for the Bukkake Queens at the Obama Country Bathhouse in Chicago in 2017.

Posted by: Juicy Smollet at December 29, 2021 01:06 PM (r0ADi)

286 The brain of Morbius?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 29, 2021 01:07 PM (63Dwl)

287 I have almost precisely zero interest in Morbius.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 01:06 PM (LvTSG)

I might hate watch it.

But I haven't gone to any Marvel movies since Endgame pissed me off.

Jared Leto is...interesting, I'm not sure in a good way or not.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at December 29, 2021 01:07 PM (XvPQV)

288 >>>And now we have an epidemic of used masks everywhere.

Posted by: JackStraw

Discarded masks should be considered a Hazmat. If they're possibly infected with Covid, I think the government should be cleaning them up and incinerating them.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at December 29, 2021 01:07 PM (XSRBF)

289 Moar popcorn.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 29, 2021 01:07 PM (OTXUv)

290 My dogma had puppies.

Posted by: wth at December 29, 2021 01:07 PM (v0R5T)

291 I think the true solution to Covid has been found

https://tinyurl.com/2s363asz

If Copperfit is on the issue, you know true salvation is at hand.

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at December 29, 2021 01:07 PM (BgMrQ)

292 Btw I thought I heard one of the tests had a toxic agent in it.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 29, 2021 12:22 PM (BmQ4L)

Somebody claimed that test kits contained sodium azide ("a dangerous drug"). Somehow I doubt that it could be found on the swab you stick into your nose. More likely a reagent that "develops" the test. "Toxic" chemicals are harmless, if they don't enter your body.

The airbags on your car contain sodium azide. Feel poisoned yet?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2021 12:59 PM (P3gRi)


The agent they're freaking about is ethylene oxide - it's commonly used to sterilize medical tools for the past hundred years. It's supposed to be mutagenic and carcinogenic when inhaled. And they've got a zillion videos showing the little fibers that come off in the swab testing and work their way to your brain. I'm probably a bit more concerned about the presence of graphine oxide in the jab drug, since they can't really explain why that's there in the first place.

Posted by: clutchx cargox - processed in a facility that may contain leadx at December 29, 2021 01:07 PM (wAnMi)

293 >>Personally, I've checked out on posting about the covid as most people have their mind made up irregardless of facts. Thus most of what people are hurling at each other is pure rhetoric.

Not much different from any other topic here.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 29, 2021 01:08 PM (ZLI7S)

294 The virus is real, just not real dangerous in it's current dominant variant.

Everything else IS fake. The tests are not reliable and even dangerous. The "vaccines" are nothing of the sort, and thus, fake. The politicians and medical community are frauds as well.

Prove me wrong.

Posted by: Joe Mama at December 29, 2021 01:08 PM (WmGrA)

295 287 I might hate watch it.

But I haven't gone to any Marvel movies since Endgame pissed me off.

Jared Leto is...interesting, I'm not sure in a good way or not.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at December 29, 2021 01:07 PM (XvPQV)

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I watched the trailer, and my thoughts were along the lines of, "This is ugly, and dim, and seems overly convoluted, and it has Jared Leto."

I'm gonna run through Mel Brooks' movies instead.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 01:08 PM (LvTSG)

296 Posted by: Juicy Smollet


Nice necktie.

Posted by: Chicago Police at December 29, 2021 01:08 PM (OTXUv)

297 Or are we just going to congratulate Brandon for his wisdom here?
Posted by: Ace at 12:21 PM


Uh, yeah. That's the way it works.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 29, 2021 01:08 PM (MFphb)

298 Oh in other great news I read that the CDC may have predicted the wrong flu strain for this season making the current flu vaccine ineffective.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 29, 2021 01:08 PM (VnkJq)

299 293 >>Personally, I've checked out on posting about the covid as most people have their mind made up irregardless of facts. Thus most of what people are hurling at each other is pure rhetoric.

Not much different from any other topic here.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 29, 2021 01:08 PM (ZLI7S)

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*considers mentioning Prometheus*

*thinks better of mentioning Prometheus and does not mention Prometheus*

*does own part in keeping thread Prometheus free*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 01:09 PM (LvTSG)

300 >>>I have a family member that basically got Covid from all the testing centers they went to.

It was like going to "confession" or something.

Posted by: Cameroom

Great point. People are rushing to test centers filled with positive Covid cases.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at December 29, 2021 01:09 PM (XSRBF)

301 So people have been testing themselves with these PCR tests post-initial diagnosis for two years and this has been yielding false positives for up to 12 weeks post-infection, and no one bothered to say so until now?

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Yeah. I tested positive about a year ago (no symptoms) . The lady from the county said not to get another test for 90 days because it could still say i was positive. I asked her "then how do you know that i didn't have COVID the months ago?" She had no answer.

Posted by: 29Victor at December 29, 2021 01:09 PM (BJKQV)

302 I'm gonna run through Mel Brooks' movies instead.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 01:08 PM (LvTSG)

Oh sure, watch GOOD movies...

eh, good advice. I think I'll join you. I don't think the wife has seen all of Mel's work.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at December 29, 2021 01:09 PM (XvPQV)

303 He's a cardio guy with a specialty of electric impulses causing the heart to beat and this is following other doctors getting my arrhythmic heartbeat under control and I guess there's no need for me to be there since he has access to echocardiogram results. But it was kind of disconcerting.
Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at December 29, 2021 01:04 PM


Slap some hot iron, and let's see how your heartbeat responds.

Posted by: Dr. Cardio Guy at December 29, 2021 01:10 PM (a3Q+t)

304 "Oh in other great news I read that the CDC may have predicted the wrong flu strain for this season making the current flu vaccine ineffective."



The deuce, you say!

Posted by: Stewie Griffin at December 29, 2021 01:10 PM (OTXUv)

305 The agent they're freaking about is ethylene oxide - it's commonly used to sterilize medical tools for the past hundred years. It's supposed to be mutagenic and carcinogenic when inhaled.
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It is. It's an alkylating agent, a known class of carcinogens and mutagens.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 29, 2021 01:10 PM (I+CQn)

306 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 01:09 PM (LvTSG)

I'm still pondering your opinion on Trainwreck.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 29, 2021 01:10 PM (VnkJq)

307 Seems to be some slight confusion about the testing issue ace.

Mass testing of asymptomatic people *was* idiocy - but the key thing is that it was just PART of an ENTIRE FRAMEWORK that is/was idiocy, extremely destructive idiocy.

That framework being the entire set of assumptions that you can "mitigate" (or my favorites, "fight" or "stop") an already prevalent highly infectious respiratory virus - short of a true, sterilizing vaccine. There has been zero evidence of this in a century of actual scientific research, and now 2 years of massive confirmation that there is no reason to believe we can.

The "Covid is Completely Fake Lobby" has been stupid and tiresome from the start. But the more important error is accepting all or part of the false framework to bash (justifiably) the idiot children now in charge.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 29, 2021 01:10 PM (OTzUX)

308 214 My work JUST SENT their CDC guidelines for Covid. They are requiring tests if your not vaxxed and no test if you are, but masks all the time.

***

This obsession with masks is just weird. One of the weirdest things I've ever seen in my life and I've seen some s***.

I mean I can understand thinking that this vaccine that a bunch of people worked on is going to be effective and even making a case for taking a booster.

But then bitter-clinging to a piece of fabric or paper with a couple of elastic straps like a rosary necklace when every box of them is marked "does not prevent viral transmission" is just barking mad.

Posted by: Azathoth at December 29, 2021 01:11 PM (W3VUu)

309 302 Oh sure, watch GOOD movies...

eh, good advice. I think I'll join you. I don't think the wife has seen all of Mel's work.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at December 29, 2021 01:09 PM (XvPQV)

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Yeah, I'm doing a hard run to finish Ford's body of work (I have about 13 more to watch which means about 24 more to post). If I do that, then the whole thing finishes like three days before one of my Saturday evening threads.

Then I need The Producers.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 01:11 PM (LvTSG)

310 Is it mean of me to wish everyone who is pushing the 'get vaccinated' cr@p in Joey's administration to catch Monkey Pox?

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2021 01:11 PM (DONzN)

311 >>>"Oh in other great news I read that the CDC may have predicted the wrong flu strain for this season making the current flu vaccine ineffective."


Eventually you have to assume the CDC is doing this on purpose. Thin the herd, like Fauci did to dogs.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at December 29, 2021 01:11 PM (XSRBF)

312 Or are we just going to congratulate Brandon for his wisdom here?
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note : Elric Blade.

So there you go.

Posted by: it has a niche sensibility at December 29, 2021 01:11 PM (iYIzc)

313 The correct form of Christianity is for me to know and you to find out. neener, neener.

Posted by: Archer at December 29, 2021 01:11 PM (gmo/4)

314 Oh in other great news I read that the CDC may have predicted the wrong flu strain for this season making the current flu vaccine ineffective.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 29, 2021 01:08 PM (VnkJq)
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The local news said as much last week, I think. The flu vaccine will be less effective than usual this year because the dominant strain is not the strain for which they ramped up flu shot production. You should get it anyway, as it might lessen symptoms for the dominant strain and keep others safe.

There. That took five minutes of my local news broadcast, but the two-sentence summary contains all of the information it did.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 29, 2021 01:11 PM (DU+/6)

315 @299

>>*does own part in keeping thread Prometheus free*

I recently set about completing collections and series.

Picked up a 4K UHD of Prometheus.

It still sucks but you can see the suckitude with more clarity.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 29, 2021 01:12 PM (iKhtQ)

316 >>>Is it mean of me to wish everyone who is pushing the 'get vaccinated' cr@p in Joey's administration to catch Monkey Pox?

Posted by: Anna Puma


I was hoping for smallpox, but to each their own.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at December 29, 2021 01:12 PM (XSRBF)

317 306 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 01:09 PM (LvTSG)

I'm still pondering your opinion on Trainwreck.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 29, 2021 01:10 PM (VnkJq)

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I like Judd Apatow, and I think he uses Amy Schumer fine. It's more Apatow than Schumer. I'd probably watch This is 40 or Funny People again before Trainwreck, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 01:12 PM (LvTSG)

318 315 It still sucks but you can see the suckitude with more clarity.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 29, 2021 01:12 PM (iKhtQ)

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I have the 3D Blu-ray. I do not have a 3D TV, though.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 01:13 PM (LvTSG)

319 This obsession with masks is just weird. One of the weirdest things I've ever seen in my life and I've seen some s***.
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its a shibboleth. You are showing submission or not. You bow down before the giant chocolate bunny or you go into the furnace.

Posted by: Mr. Nezzer at December 29, 2021 01:13 PM (r3i9F)

320 Lauren Boebert
@laurenboebert
2h
The CDC has just stated that PCR tests can stay positive for COVID-19 up to 12 weeks after an infection.

Of course, they tell us this TWO YEARS after they used PCR tests to destroy the economy.

This is why government should STAY OUT OF IT!

Posted by: redridinghood at December 29, 2021 01:13 PM (NpAcC)

321 It still sucks but you can see the suckitude with more clarity.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 29, 2021 01:12 PM (iKhtQ)
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Look at the clarity! Look at the color! Look at the rich detail! The tapestry of suck makes a bigger impact now!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 29, 2021 01:13 PM (DU+/6)

322 Could it be down to the idea that flooding your body with antigen makes you less able to fend off simultaneous infection? Is it weakening of the immune system? I don't know. No one knows! Because every aspect of the Walensky/ Klain/ Bloomberg society, from the corporate pharmacies to the CDC, keeps bleating that the vaccine is SAFE AND EFFECTIVE, despite being obviously wrong.
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Did you see this?
https://tinyurl.com/4yr5m4pp

Very disturbing. These docs (an immunologist and a pathologist) say that the vaccines cause cells in the body's organs to express the spike protein, which they would never naturally do. Any cell which expresses this foreign antigen (i.e. the spike protein) then comes under attack by the body's immune system. They say this is what is causing the instances of myocarditis or even cardiac arrest in younger people that we've been hearing about.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at December 29, 2021 01:13 PM (k4dH2)

323 99.987% survival rate.

That. Is. All.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at December 29, 2021 01:13 PM (iDcra)

324 For the record I thought your post was clear.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 29, 2021 12:50 PM

I did as well. Exposing the hypocrisy and obvious political nature of the policy changes.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 29, 2021 01:13 PM (Do5/p)

325 Isn't 'Morbius' a stripper's name

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 29, 2021 01:14 PM (UHVv4)

326 I think the true solution to Covid has been found

https://tinyurl.com/2s363asz

If Copperfit is on the issue, you know true salvation is at hand.
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at December 29, 2021 01:07 PM (BgMrQ)


The endorsements in the "Real People. Real Results" section sold me! "It hangs there on a string! ON A STRING!"

Posted by: spindrift at December 29, 2021 01:14 PM (h5TKJ)

327 "And now we have an epidemic of used masks everywhere.

Posted by: JackStraw"

When the mask mandates started I predicted we would eventually hear sob stories from the environmentalist about all the damage they are doing to the environment and destroying fragile ocean ecosystems. Sure enough, I started seeing this a couple weeks ago. Blaming inconsiderate wasteful Americans to follow shortly.

Posted by: Ripley at December 29, 2021 01:14 PM (MxEKc)

328 COOF isn't fake, but almost everything surrounding it is. That is the material point.

Posted by: ... at December 29, 2021 01:14 PM (ht815)

329 The whole medical complex in the US has beclowned itself thoroughly over the last few years. Even before that they were pretty damned awful as a whole. Modern medical quackery has personally fucked my health in irreversible ways. Anyone who works for said monstrosity coming at me with pleas for tolerance and understanding can shove it up their ass.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 29, 2021 01:14 PM (cSs/W)

330
Great point. People are rushing to test centers filled with positive Covid cases.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at December 29, 2021 01:09 PM


After I got the covid - self diagnosis with 9 out of 10 symptoms - I thought I would donate my blood so others could get the benefits of my antibodies.

*record scratch*

You have to get tested before you can give blood. In a room filled with people who may or may not have it and I have only a slight wonder if I had it or not. F that.

Posted by: Zombie Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at December 29, 2021 01:14 PM (dQvv7)

331 I've been watching Fox instead of FBN in the morning before work because Dana Perino is on vacation.

Posted by: wth at December 29, 2021 01:14 PM (v0R5T)

332 So "Amy" Schneider scored the most points for a woman ever in Jeopardy. Except he's a man wearing a dress, demonstrating again the best women on earth are dudes, apparently.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 29, 2021 01:14 PM (KZzsI)

333 Then I need The Producers.

Max, "shoot the actors!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2021 01:14 PM (DONzN)

334
Covid is now Joe Biden's tar baby.

Posted by: Zombie Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at December 29, 2021 01:15 PM (dQvv7)

335

Covid/sars is a medical disease and a political pandemic.

Medically, a great deal remeans unknown about pretty much every aspect of transmission, treatment, susceptibility, detectability and testing, and most certainly traditional vaccination and the experimental protein spike immune system stimulation is a giant dark hole.

Political pandemic epidemiology however uses Geometric Logic and Quantum Phlogiston Queer Theory to prove beyond doubt that the cishet white mess boys ate the Covid strawberries, or whatever else our owners and masters need to finally dismantle the remnants of the Republic...

Posted by: Dr Nick Riviera at December 29, 2021 01:15 PM (Z/BA3)

336 Here we see the Glassy-Eyed Testing Junkie, its tattered plumage barely hidden behind a thin strip of gaudy cloth, flit from website to website in a desperate attempt to acquire more testing kits.

Posted by: David Attenborough at December 29, 2021 01:15 PM (WmPWs)

337 Submitted for your consideration; which is more sucky - Prometheus or The Tomorrow War.



Posted by: Archer at December 29, 2021 01:15 PM (gmo/4)

338 This obsession with masks is just weird. One of the weirdest things I've ever seen in my life and I've seen some s***.

I mean I can understand thinking that this vaccine that a bunch of people worked on is going to be effective and even making a case for taking a booster.

But then bitter-clinging to a piece of fabric or paper with a couple of elastic straps like a rosary necklace when every box of them is marked "does not prevent viral transmission" is just barking mad.
Posted by: Azathoth at December 29, 2021 01:11 PM (W3VUu)

Madness is my explanation, too.
It spread so fast and so wide, it's almost supernatural. It infected people I would have sworn had their heads screwed on tight, too.

I have no idea why I was spared, just so I could see it from the outside.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at December 29, 2021 01:15 PM (XvPQV)

339 Prevalent and endemic are different things. Neither can be "managed" short of true sterilizing vaccine (one that prevents transmission).

Posted by: rhomboid at December 29, 2021 01:15 PM (OTzUX)

340 Dr. Morbius, "Id! Id! Id! It is an obsolete term referring to the subconscious."

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2021 01:16 PM (DONzN)

341 The CDC has just stated that PCR tests can stay positive for COVID-19 up to 12 weeks after an infection.

Of course, they tell us this TWO YEARS after they used PCR tests to destroy the economy.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 29, 2021 01:13 PM (NpAcC)

This has been known. This is what i was told by the county about a year ago then I tested positive.

Posted by: 29Victor at December 29, 2021 01:16 PM (BJKQV)

342
I *always* drive 90 miles to the beach to safely toss my mask into the ocean.

Posted by: Zombie Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at December 29, 2021 01:16 PM (dQvv7)

343 The "Covid is Completely Fake Lobby" has been stupid and tiresome from the start.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 29, 2021 01:10 PM (OTzUX)

I resent that.

It appears that even the reluctantly vaxxinated are determined to make those of us who grasped the COVID hoax from the beginning the bad guys. Go peddle your condemnation to someone else.

Posted by: creeper at December 29, 2021 01:16 PM (cTCuP)

344 Say what you will, but chicken bones and runes have more credibility and consistency.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 29, 2021 01:17 PM (5iFlS)

345 Can't stay in Crazy Town.
Too emabarrased to walk back from Crazy Town.
This is the State of the (Democrat party) Union.

Posted by: Zek at December 29, 2021 01:17 PM (OzNIz)

346 >>When the mask mandates started I predicted we would eventually hear sob stories from the environmentalist about all the damage they are doing to the environment and destroying fragile ocean ecosystems. Sure enough, I started seeing this a couple weeks ago. Blaming inconsiderate wasteful Americans to follow shortly.

No doubt when the truth is most of the mask garbage is coming from the same place the virus came from, China.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 29, 2021 01:17 PM (ZLI7S)

347 @298

>>Oh in other great news I read that the CDC may have predicted the wrong flu strain for this season making the current flu vaccine ineffective.

The flu "vaccine" per the CDC is generally 36 pct effective across all populations.

So this will make a marginally effective vaccine negligibly effective.

And if you control for population, since the advent of the flu vaccine it has had zero effect on hospitalizations and deaths form ILI's

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 29, 2021 01:17 PM (iKhtQ)

348 When they do the long test for covid, they test for multiple virus's/illnesses. Flu, strep, other things that aren't even covid.

If that test comes back positive for ANY of the multiple things they test for, it's a positive COVID test.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 29, 2021 01:17 PM (Zz0t1)

349 The endorsements in the "Real People. Real Results" section sold me! "It hangs there on a string! ON A STRING!"
Posted by: spindrift at December 29, 2021 01:14 PM (h5TKJ)

I had just turned on the TV, and caught my first glimpse of that ad.

***face palm***

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at December 29, 2021 01:17 PM (BgMrQ)

350 >>So "Amy" Schneider scored the most points for a woman ever in Jeopardy. Except he's a man wearing a dress, demonstrating again the best women on earth are dudes, apparently.


Yes, saw that person the other night.
Another women's record erased by a man. Women are being erased everywhere.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 29, 2021 01:17 PM (URNdm)

351 Reflecting on this, I think there's no chance that the OSHA vax mandate stands after the SCOTUS hearing on Jan. 7. The entire framework behind it is falling apart. What I really hope is that the SCOTUSES go beyond the vax issue and issue a much broader ruling about federal authority.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 29, 2021 01:17 PM (trdmm)

352 We're now entering the third year of this monstrosity and I fear the psychological damage this has done to large swaths of the West may permanent.

--

Just as warning signs are appearing on babies and children who have lessened cognitive abilities and inability to read facial cues in social settings, the psychological damage this has wrought will also be very evident in a not-insignificant portion of the adult population. We see the tip of the iceberg with all the meltdowns and illogical, incoherent behavior in the adult population nearly every day. I think a lot of people are permanently psychologically changed over this, and the coming years will show just how badly we've been damaged.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 29, 2021 01:17 PM (sVtYq)

353 It is a combination test swab and booster jab.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 29, 2021 01:18 PM (aUWM7)

354 Wyatt

For all we know Fauci paid someone in North Africa to combine the two.

Small Monkey Pox

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2021 01:18 PM (DONzN)

355 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 01:12 PM (LvTSG)

Can't snark on this. I think This is 40 and Funny People are both very good .

Posted by: Just a side note at December 29, 2021 01:18 PM (VnkJq)

356 They probably will ask those questions, and will get very unreliable data because nobody for whom the answers to questions like that are "no" will trust that the survey won't be used to bludgeon them if they tell the truth.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 29, 2021 12:45 PM

Exactly what I was thinking when I saw it. Not trusting this one bit:

The HPS continues to be a collaborative undertaking and is fielded in partnership with the following federal agencies:

Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), Bureau of Transportation Statistics (BTS), Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB), Department of Defense (DOD), Energy Information Administration (EIA), Department of Health and Human Services (HHS/ASPE), Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), Maternal and Child Health Bureau (MCHB), National Center for Education Statistics (NCES), National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health (NIOSH), USDA Economic Research Service (ERS)

All information that you provide is used only to create accurate, relevant statistics...

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 29, 2021 01:18 PM (Do5/p)

357 was expecting yakkety sax on that final cut of biden leaving. disappointed.

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at December 29, 2021 01:18 PM (edU/H)

358 Have they started re-hyping "long covid" yet?

Because it's like fibromyalgia or something or other with the primary symptom of not wanting to get back to fucking work.

Posted by: Zek at December 29, 2021 01:18 PM (OzNIz)

359 What are we going to be talking about Dec 29, 2022? Still coof?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 29, 2021 01:18 PM (aUWM7)

360 Yeah Amy Schumer was kinda funny early on but I'm not sure how much is her and how much was writing for her.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 29, 2021 01:18 PM (KZzsI)

361 Medically, a great deal remeans unknown about pretty much every aspect of transmission, treatment, susceptibility, detectability and testing, and most certainly traditional vaccination and the experimental protein spike immune system stimulation is a giant dark hole.

Posted by: Dr Nick Riviera at December 29, 2021 01:15 PM (Z/BA3)

All the testing and politicization certainly doesn't help to get a clear picture of the data. But we might have some starting assumptions based on past experience with other diseases. These aren't certainties but what we would normally consider to be most likely.

1. Symptomatic people are the ones who can spread
2. The disease mutates to become less deadly over time
3. It's not possible to differentiate from similar diseases with cheap mass tests
4. Being highly contagious and mutating frequently (as the baseline is a cold), vaccination and lockdowns will not ultimately do away with the virus

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 29, 2021 01:19 PM (z5Vrg)

362 Madness is my explanation, too.
It spread so fast and so wide, it's almost supernatural. It infected people I would have sworn had their heads screwed on tight, too.

I have no idea why I was spared, just so I could see it from the outside.
==
Everyone here has been inoculated against the mind virus. Years of repeated exposure to truth destroying falsity provides you antibodies against the the mind virus. And, if you step out of line, your fellow ron and ettes will provide you with the "care" you need.

Posted by: simplemind at December 29, 2021 01:19 PM (mthID)

363

Yes, saw that person the other night.
Another women's record erased by a man. Women are being erased everywhere.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 29, 2021 01:17 PM (URNdm)


And I'm the guy that will go ahead and say that it was given the answers in advance so it would become "HERO" to the broken leftist tardives out there.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 29, 2021 01:19 PM (Zz0t1)

364 OT-I just love it when a "normal" person own Elizabeth Warren:

https://tinyurl.com/2p89c58z

As if Elizabeth Warren is celebrating Kwanzaa. It's about as likely as a young Kamala Harris doing it.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 29, 2021 01:19 PM (k49Sx)

365 Long covid is an autoimmune attack on native ACE receptors. DrBeen has a recent lecture on it.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 29, 2021 01:19 PM (aUWM7)

366 I *always* drive 90 miles to the beach to safely toss my mask into the ocean.
Posted by: Zombie Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at December 29, 2021 01:16 PM (dQvv7)

Gee, toss in a couple plastic six-pack rings while you're at it bub.

Posted by: a seagull at December 29, 2021 01:20 PM (v0R5T)

367 its a shibboleth. You are showing submission or not. You bow down before the giant chocolate bunny or you go into the furnace.

***

You know how I know you either have kids or grandkids? :-)

Posted by: Azathoth at December 29, 2021 01:20 PM (W3VUu)

368 Morbius! Morbius! Something is approaching from the southeast. It is now quite close.

Posted by: Archer at December 29, 2021 01:20 PM (gmo/4)

369 I saw one of those Binax people last time I went to Walmart. Six foot three, red hair and beard, wearing a mumu.

Posted by: Sealed Tuna Sandwich at December 29, 2021 01:21 PM (JPtHE)

370 Got a whole drawerful of negative Binax Now tests.

Posted by: rickb223 Pureblood - non-GMO at December 29, 2021 01:21 PM (uXonU)

371 One final point to my comments above which have engendered some controversy: The backing away from mass testing isn't because F. Joe Biden fucked up with ordering tests (which he did). If that was true, then the CDC wouldn't also be revising the quarantine from 10 days to 5.

Something else is going on. I think the backing away from mass testing is an implicit admission that CV19 and its hysteria is hurting Biden and Congressional Dumocraps and they want it to go away or at least dump it on the states. Indeed, Biden made that clear when he admitted there was no federal solution.

I said for a while now that the hysterical Covid monster the gov't created has turned on its creator. Funny how that always happens.

Posted by: Elric Blade at December 29, 2021 01:21 PM (iFTx/)

372 Didn't read all the comments, don't know if the other major problem with PCR tests was mentioned - the number of cycles run, which determines the confidence level in the results. Not sure about today, but at various points during The Great Idiocy different jurisdictions had widely varying cycle counts, with many using levels (above 30, forget the exact level) that yielded very dubious results.

Even the eventual, research or academic value that might have derived from mass asymptomatic testing (conceptually, it's there) seems unlikely to be realized, since the quality of the data will be s**t. Apples, oranges, bananas, guavas, and many of these things not even reliable in their own right.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 29, 2021 01:21 PM (OTzUX)

373 The natives are restless!

POLITICO
@politico
Republicans across America are pressing local jurisdictions and state lawmakers to make typically sleepy school board races into politicized, partisan elections in an attempt to gain more statewide control and swing them to victory in the 2022 midterms
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at December 29, 2021 12:55 PM (FVME7)

Interesting that Politico thinks having an informed aware and interested electorate is a bad thing.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 29, 2021 01:21 PM (eoQWY)

374 Early on it was clear the medical community would not fight back this wave of madness sweeping the country/world and for the most part go along with it.


Hero's get awards and bonuses.


Snitches get stitches.

Posted by: Ripley at December 29, 2021 01:22 PM (MxEKc)

375 The Virus is real, everything surrounding it has been a Political Op supported and perpetuated by a compliant and complicit Scientific and Medical community.

We're now entering the third year of this monstrosity and I fear the psychological damage this has done to large swaths of the West may permanent.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 29, 2021 12:56 PM (iKhtQ)

Precisely. They ginned up a Moral Panic over a virus that would ordinarly be regarded as a seasonal flu.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 29, 2021 01:22 PM (P3gRi)

376 its a shibboleth. You are showing submission or not. You bow down before the giant chocolate bunny or you go into the furnace.

***

You know how I know you either have kids or grandkids? :-)
==
I gave it away with the nick.

Posted by: Mr. Nezzer at December 29, 2021 01:22 PM (FRov5)

377
POLITICO
@politico
Republicans across America are pressing local jurisdictions and state lawmakers to make typically sleepy school board races into politicized, partisan elections in an attempt to gain more statewide control and swing them to victory in the 2022 midterms
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at December 29, 2021 12:55 PM (FVME7)



Hopefully, the bag of dicks shipment to Politico will arrive on time.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 29, 2021 01:23 PM (Zz0t1)

378 Gee, toss in a couple plastic six-pack rings while you're at it bub.
Posted by: a seagull at December 29, 2021 01:20 PM (v0R5T)


Naaaa. Save those for the local lakes and streams. The ducks love to play with them.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 29, 2021 01:23 PM (axyOa)

379 @319

>>its a shibboleth. You are showing submission or not. You bow down before the giant chocolate bunny or you go into the furnace.

As has been said, We've just conducted the largest real world, planet spanning mask efficacy study over the last two years.

The verdict is in on the habitual use of masks and it's efficacy of stopping the transmission of respiratory viruses in populations.

The one positive aspect is that you can differentiate normal people from the lunatics.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 29, 2021 01:23 PM (iKhtQ)

380 Interesting that Politico thinks having an informed aware and interested electorate is a bad thing.
Posted by: Oldcat

We concur.

Posted by: The DNC at December 29, 2021 01:23 PM (WmGrA)

381 "Face is Morbius! Even your robot knows it is part you. That is why it can't kill it!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2021 01:23 PM (DONzN)

382 Interesting that Politico thinks having an informed aware and interested electorate is a bad thing.
Posted by: Oldcat

You said it! They stink on ice!

Pull!

Posted by: King Louie at December 29, 2021 01:23 PM (Z/BA3)

383 371 Something else is going on. I think the backing away from mass testing is an implicit admission that CV19 and its hysteria is hurting Biden and Congressional Dumocraps and they want it to go away or at least dump it on the states. Indeed, Biden made that clear when he admitted there was no federal solution.

I said for a while now that the hysterical Covid monster the gov't created has turned on its creator. Funny how that always happens.
Posted by: Elric Blade at December 29, 2021 01:21 PM (iFTx/)

=========

He kind of walked back that no federal solution thing but saying he'd implement some kind of interstate vaccine requirement if advised.

The Left is at war with itself over covid. One side wants to give Biden a political win of defeating covid after the disaster of his first year. The other side wants to keep covid going forever because of money and fear.

Biden's caught in the middle. It is to laugh.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 01:23 PM (LvTSG)

384 politico
Republicans across America are pressing local jurisdictions and state lawmakers to make typically sleepy school board races into politicized, partisan elections in an attempt to gain more statewide control and swing them to victory in the 2022 midterms
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Abandon All Hope Ye Who Enter 2022 at December 29, 2021 12:55 PM (FVME7)

Funny how the Demoncrats are never accused of politicizing things.

Posted by: N.L. Urker, the Phillips screwdriver of the gods at December 29, 2021 01:23 PM (eGTCV)

385 I think a lot of people are permanently psychologically changed over this, and the coming years will show just how badly we've been damaged.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 29, 2021 01:17 PM

Think of all the people who are permanently changed in their attitude towards law enforcement and the "healthcare" industry. We have always been a society which relies on trust in others. I no longer trust anyone in the "healthcare" industry. There are plenty of people on the right who have abandoned the "back the blue" attitude.

I don't think a society can function properly if there is no trust left among the population for anyone or anything. WEF is getting their wish. Can't Build Back Better and push the Great Reset button until you tear everything down. The entire world is now Gotham City after the League of Shadows unleashed the poison through the water system.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 29, 2021 01:23 PM (Do5/p)

386 POLITICO
@politico
Republicans across America are pressing local jurisdictions and state lawmakers to make typically sleepy school board races into politicized, partisan elections in an attempt to gain more statewide control and swing them to victory in the 2022 midterms

--

It's a threat to democracy when people amass and vote their will by electing people who reflect their own values.

/s

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 29, 2021 01:24 PM (sVtYq)

387
Biden's caught in the middle. It is to laugh.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 01:23 PM (LvTSG)



*poop*

- Joe Biden

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 29, 2021 01:24 PM (Zz0t1)

388 >>Early on it was clear the medical community would not fight back this wave of madness sweeping the country/world and for the most part go along with it.


>>Hero's get awards and bonuses.


>>Snitches get stitches.

Robert Malone, the inventor of mRNA vaccines and probably one of the most knowledgeable people in the world on the topic just got suspended on twitter.

Wrong thinkers get punished.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 29, 2021 01:24 PM (ZLI7S)

389 >>Republicans across America are pressing local jurisdictions and state lawmakers to make typically sleepy school board races into politicized, partisan elections in an attempt to gain more statewide control and swing them to victory in the 2022 midterms



Gee, and here in Denver I thought the DPS school board making known sexual predator of female students, Tay Anderson, School Board President *after* a cover-up inside "investigation" into allegations might be a motivation to replace them. . .

Posted by: Lizzy at December 29, 2021 01:25 PM (URNdm)

390 I haven't an iota of sympathy for the "dancing nurses" or anyone else in the medical community that facilitated this mess. They, along with the government are primarily responsible for the obsession over COVID and preventive measures.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 29, 2021 01:25 PM (BFigT)

391 172 It is, imo, when it is used to subtly debase others, like, Ace, who has said he has had the vaccine and boosters.

Waiting and in many instances here, reveling in the possible future side-effects of the vaccine on the people that have chosen to be vaccinated is wrong.
Posted by: old chick at December 29, 2021 12:48 PM (sOete)


I've not used the term "pureblood" personally but have never interpreted it that way. Rather, I see it as ironic pushback against the truly Nazi-esque tendency by left-wing totalitarians--both within and outside of govenments--to label anyone who has not been injected with this shit as filthy disease-carriers who should not be allowed to live. But, YMMV.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at December 29, 2021 01:25 PM (DTX3h)

392 366 I *always* drive 90 miles to the beach to safely toss my mask into the ocean.
Posted by: Zombie Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at December 29, 2021 01:16 PM (dQvv7)

Gee, toss in a couple plastic six-pack rings while you're at it bub.
Posted by: a seagull at December 29, 2021 01:20 PM (v0R5T)
--------------

Be extra safe: saddle your mask around some turtle's neck. A seagull will do in a pinch.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 29, 2021 01:25 PM (f871o)

393 What I really hope is that the SCOTUSES go beyond the vax issue and issue a much broader ruling about federal authority.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 29, 2021 01:17 PM (trdmm)

Yeah we'll get right on that.

Posted by: Amy Comey-Jarrett at December 29, 2021 01:25 PM (ht815)

394
I *always* drive 90 miles to the beach to safely toss my mask into the ocean.

Gee, toss in a couple plastic six-pack rings while you're at it bub.

Posted by: a seagull at December 29, 2021 01:20 PM


Hey, I remember you. I hooked you once when trolling for blues with a 'rebel' lure. You and your buddies aren't too bright, ya know?

Posted by: Zombie Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at December 29, 2021 01:25 PM (dQvv7)

395
Funny how the Demoncrats are never accused of politicizing things.
Posted by: N.L. Urker, the Phillips screwdriver of the gods at December 29, 2021 01:23 PM (eGTCV)



This.

It's always a 'threat to democracy' or extreme or whateverism when Republicans do it.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 29, 2021 01:25 PM (Zz0t1)

396 I've not used the term "pureblood" personally but have never interpreted it that way. Rather, I see it as ironic pushback against the truly Nazi-esque tendency by left-wing totalitarians--both within and outside of govenments--to label anyone who has not been injected with this shit as filthy disease-carriers who should not be allowed to live. But, YMMV.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at December 29, 2021 01:25 PM (DTX3h)

It reminds me of Harry Potter. Which is probably what inspired the term. That would make the term slightly self-mocking as well.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 29, 2021 01:26 PM (z5Vrg)

397 POLITICO
@politico
Republicans across America are pressing local jurisdictions and state lawmakers to make typically sleepy school board races into politicized, partisan elections in an attempt to gain more statewide control and swing them to victory in the 2022 midterms
------------------
They're threatening "our democracy!"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 29, 2021 01:26 PM (f871o)

398 Red Turban, good points. A few might be added. Atop the list - highly infectious respiratory viruses *that are already prevalent* cannot be mitigated by any policies.

The assumption that they can is the key false assumption underlying 98% of everything done since March 2020.

From that base false premise the entire baseless mentality of "fighting" the virus proceeds.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 29, 2021 01:26 PM (OTzUX)

399 cigarette butts > used masks

Posted by: wth at December 29, 2021 01:27 PM (v0R5T)

400 Asking for a friend... do they now make home testing kits for marijuana, cocaine and heroin?

Step 1: Insert swap in tub of vasoline

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 29, 2021 01:27 PM (r0ADi)

401 There are "islands" of discarded masks in the ocean the size of Temecula.

How dare you?

Posted by: Greta Thunberg at December 29, 2021 01:27 PM (sWM8x)

402 Early on it was clear the medical community would not fight back this wave of madness sweeping the country/world and for the most part go along with it.

>>Hero's get awards and bonuses.

>>Snitches get stitches.



"First time?"
- Climate scientists

Posted by: Azathoth at December 29, 2021 01:27 PM (W3VUu)

403 Think of all the people who are permanently changed in their attitude towards law enforcement and the "healthcare" industry.
==
*Nods* Wait. There's more.

Great reset.

Posted by: Soros at December 29, 2021 01:27 PM (C8nXP)

404 The Left is at war with itself over covid. One side wants to give Biden a political win of defeating covid after the disaster of his first year. The other side wants to keep covid going forever because of money and fear.

Biden's caught in the middle. It is to laugh.


Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 01:23

I think there is a radical side like that of "the squad" which is likely aligned with the WEF and Great Reset goals. While there is the more rational side like Joe Manchin which is thinking politics as usual and wants this to go away. I still can't figure out which side Biden's handlers have him as the puppet figurehead. Some days it seems he's a puppet for WEF goals, some days it seems he's out spouting more rational things. Considering many think Obama runs a shadow government, I wonder which side Obama is on.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 29, 2021 01:27 PM (Do5/p)

405 It's always a 'threat to democracy' or extreme or whateverism when Republicans do it.
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 29, 2021 01:25 PM (Zz0t1)
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"out of the mainstream"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 29, 2021 01:27 PM (f871o)

406 Totally OT

Looking at the Fox News site, I guess it is the norm for Hollywood folk (that I've never heard of) to break up and the woman runs off to some beach in Mexico to show off her killer body.
These people are idiots.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 29, 2021 01:28 PM (axyOa)

407 What's the most bizarre thing in regard to what we know and don't know is that we definitely know that there are prophylactics that work really well if taken at the onset of contracting the virus .

And that's the one thing that the powers to be have basically banned in the USA.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 29, 2021 01:28 PM (VnkJq)

408
Robert Malone, the inventor of mRNA vaccines and probably one of the most knowledgeable people in the world on the topic just got suspended on twitter.

Wrong thinkers get punished.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 29, 2021 01:24 PM (ZLI7S)



But I was told he was just an attention whore and didn't really know what he was talking about.

Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 29, 2021 01:28 PM (Zz0t1)

409
As to the mass-hysteria/moral panic angle... this is something I've been noting for awhile now. The COVID nonsense is by far the most prolonged and pronounced instance, but it's one of many. We used to have occasional hysterias and moral panics. Maybe every generation or two, something would whip the dum-dums into a proper froth.

But in my lifetime, they've been much, much more frequent than the past. And in recent years, the last 20, it's just constant. From one to the next and then to the next, with barely any time to take a breath.

I think part of it is increasing penetration of mass communications, and part is carefully cultivated mass ignorance. High-tech dark age intellectual barbarism.

Posted by: Yudhishtira's Dice at December 29, 2021 01:28 PM (hQ23g)

410 How dare you?

Oh yeah, since Camera Hogg spouted off isn't time for Greta von Thule to make another sagacious pronouncement?

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2021 01:28 PM (DONzN)

411 @390
"I haven't an iota of sympathy for the "dancing nurses" or anyone else in the medical community that facilitated this mess. They, along with the government are primarily responsible for the obsession over COVID and preventive measures."

And a particulalry vigorous thrust of the pineapple for all those in the medical profession (nearly all) who weren't screaming from the rooftops that we should have gone full steam ahead with available therapeutics and done quick/efficient trials of other therapeutics a year and a half ago.

It's a combination of overhyping imaginary dangers to the young /healthy, hyping the benefits of lockdowns that were futile to stop an endemic virus, ignoring/minimizing the effects of lockdowns and failing to actually mitigate the real dangers with actual frickin treatment.

Posted by: Zek at December 29, 2021 01:29 PM (OzNIz)

412 I know a new thread is likely coming, so will probably repost this, but for anyone interested in the plane crash in SD, yesterday...

https://youtu.be/8pS17RPgqfI

Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose) at December 29, 2021 01:29 PM (QYPq3)

413 POLITICO
@politico
Republicans across America are pressing local jurisdictions and state lawmakers to make typically sleepy school board races into politicized, partisan elections in an attempt to gain more statewide control and swing them to victory in the 2022 midterms
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They're threatening "our democracy!"
==
Its a good thing they are immune from Irony, or shame.

Posted by: Soros - DA project etc at December 29, 2021 01:29 PM (3Msql)

414 Dr Nick,
Thank you for your comments.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 29, 2021 01:29 PM (W2Pud)

415 It's always a 'threat to democracy' or extreme or whateverism when Republicans do it.
Posted by: Sponge - Remembering Tami at December 29, 2021 01:25 PM (Zz0t1)
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"out of the mainstream"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Not Who We Are.

Posted by: JEF at December 29, 2021 01:29 PM (WmGrA)

416 Screeeeeeeeee!

Posted by: KovidKaren at December 29, 2021 01:29 PM (n/szn)

417 The most ridiculous thing I've seen in Houston is the very long lines of cars at various testing centers. I have to assume it's because employers or someone is mandating a negative test because why would you wait for an hour to get tested if you are asymptomatic ? If you are symptomatic, must not be too bad if you can drive and wait in your car for an hour.
Posted by: Just a side note at December 29, 2021 12:43 PM (VnkJq)
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That's been true here in SoCal. We presumed it resulted from people needing to get tested to fly somewhere.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 29, 2021 01:03 PM (YqDXo)

I got one in SoCal to get the required form for a business trip - the client required full vaxx or test and I was in the middle of the wait period. Took the quick test, got a text message and printed the proof of test form on the printer.

No waiting in cars needed.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 29, 2021 01:29 PM (eoQWY)

418 "Biden's caught in the middle. It is to laugh."

Well, actually, the entire country is caught in the middle, has been from the outset, thus the destruction.

And you'll notice who's president, and who isn't. That's all that matters.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 29, 2021 01:30 PM (OTzUX)

419 Totally OT

Looking at the Fox News site, I guess it is the norm for Hollywood folk (that I've never heard of) to break up and the woman runs off to some beach in Mexico to show off her killer body.
These people are idiots.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 29, 2021 01:28 PM (axyOa)
-----------------
Whatever happened to the "stolen" sex tape? That's what they used to do to garner publicity.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 29, 2021 01:31 PM (f871o)

420 now that Brandon has pushed for Federal instant tests, he will trample all the governors orders for the same tests. SO, once again, trample the 10th. If you want free stuff, Federal only.

Posted by: government here to save you at December 29, 2021 01:31 PM (lNSu6)

421
Republicans across America are pressing local jurisdictions and state lawmakers to make typically sleepy school board races into politicized, partisan elections

Implied but not stated is the fact that democrats are never partisan.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 29, 2021 01:31 PM (2go+e)

422 -----------------
Whatever happened to the "stolen" sex tape? That's what they used to do to garner publicity.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 29, 2021 01:31 PM (f871o)



I won my lawsuit. The payout will likely scare most away going forward.

Posted by: Hulk Hogan at December 29, 2021 01:31 PM (Zz0t1)

423 What's the most bizarre thing in regard to what we know and don't know is that we definitely know that there are prophylactics that work really well if taken at the onset of contracting the virus .

https://c19early.com/

link to collection of studies - what works/doesn't and how much we know about it.

Posted by: if you like to know stuff at December 29, 2021 01:32 PM (C8nXP)

424 I've not used the term "pureblood" personally but have never interpreted it that way. Rather, I see it as ironic pushback against the truly Nazi-esque tendency by left-wing totalitarians--both within and outside of govenments--to label anyone who has not been injected with this shit as filthy disease-carriers who should not be allowed to live. But, YMMV.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik


The government wished me a Merry Christmas and said I'm gonna die because I'm not vaxxed.

Fuck anyone that has a problem with the term "Pureblood" or "non-GMO"

Posted by: rickb223 Pureblood - non-GMO at December 29, 2021 01:32 PM (uXonU)

425 205 Take Bipoc instead.

Side effects include headache, nausea, drive by shootings, heart attacks, bad neighborhoods, anal leakage and death.
Posted by: Bipoc


Great sales pitch. Youtube ad to be banned as soon as they realized what it was saying.

Posted by: JEM at December 29, 2021 01:32 PM (NBJvQ)

426 My wife asks:

What if this is to delegitimize the PCR tests (rightfully) so, in order to come down harder on the non-vaxxed?

Posted by: Biden's Dog at December 29, 2021 01:32 PM (iHhEV)

427 Nood tranny swimmers.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at December 29, 2021 01:32 PM (z5Vrg)

428 Ace, I won't argue whether or not there is Covid, but I will argue that the majority of the death is from neglect of patients, isolation and mistreatment.

A lot of that is due to very bad incentives in healthcare and "public health', by medical practice being taken over by Very Very Large companies who care A Very Much about profits, and the fear of retaliation by a lot of people who have had their lives destroyed for someone else's profit sharing agreement.

The last part is very concerning because demonization of corporations and political people who place profit and power above the health of the electorate has been going on from before when Hillary started trying to push National Health for the US.

From here on it will be patch-patch and trying for a last grab at the fabled brass ring to validate all the lies and death.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 29, 2021 01:32 PM (ZMraq)

429 418 "Biden's caught in the middle. It is to laugh."

Well, actually, the entire country is caught in the middle, has been from the outset, thus the destruction.

And you'll notice who's president, and who isn't. That's all that matters.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 29, 2021 01:30 PM (OTzUX)

=========

Not the whole country. Large swaths of this country have moved on with their lives.

It's really just the blue enclaves that are playing the covid theater anymore.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, who is too old for this shit at December 29, 2021 01:32 PM (LvTSG)

430 What's the most bizarre thing in regard to what we know and don't know is that we definitely know that there are prophylactics that work really well if taken at the onset of contracting the virus .

https://c19early.com/

link to collection of studies - what works/doesn't and how much we know about it.
Posted by: if you like to know stuff at December 29, 2021 01:32 PM (C8nXP)



I ain't wearing no damn condom! ABORTION ON DEMAND!

Posted by: Leftist Tardive at December 29, 2021 01:33 PM (Zz0t1)

431 So I'm a "PUREBLOOD", huh?

What does that even mean?

Posted by: creeper at December 29, 2021 01:33 PM (cTCuP)

432 "High-tech dark age intellectual barbarism." Well said. I've been using "digital Dark Age".

And Zek captured the collapse of the medical and public health institutions pretty well. Sensible people always had viewed them in a proper and balanced context, not with the ignorant deference of the masses, but the last 2 years, wow.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 29, 2021 01:33 PM (OTzUX)

433 So I'm a "PUREBLOOD", huh?

What does that even mean?
Posted by: creeper at December 29, 2021 01:33 PM (cTCuP)

Never been vaxxed
OR
You read too much Harry Potter

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Lawful Good is Not Lawful Perfect at December 29, 2021 01:34 PM (XvPQV)

434 I've not used the term "pureblood" personally but have never interpreted it that way. Rather, I see it as ironic pushback against the truly Nazi-esque tendency by left-wing totalitarians--both within and outside of govenments--to label anyone who has not been injected with this shit as filthy disease-carriers who should not be allowed to live. But, YMMV.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at December 29, 2021 01:25 PM (DTX3h)

While it may be ironic or not, that isn't how it comes off. It isn't ironically accepting the label like we took on 'deplorables' or 'flyover country' in the past, its making a new group tag like the other collectivists. That's why those that don't qualify for whatever reason find it less than amusing.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 29, 2021 01:34 PM (eoQWY)

435 What if this is to delegitimize the PCR tests (rightfully) so, in order to come down harder on the non-vaxxed?
==
They need to have a reason to kick of the militant phase of the cultural revolution and the testing was actually working against them.

Posted by: its an op, m'kay, ops are bad, m'kay at December 29, 2021 01:34 PM (iYIzc)

436 "800,000" is a big fat commie lie.

Posted by: Zombie Gen Turgidson at December 29, 2021 01:34 PM (OzNIz)

437 Remember the time Harry Reid got caught with the grandkids and got punched in the face so hard it took 5 years to heal?

Posted by: Coquettish Haberdasher at December 29, 2021 01:34 PM (buTO7)

438 412 I know a new thread is likely coming, so will probably repost this, but for anyone interested in the plane crash in SD, yesterday...

https://youtu.be/8pS17RPgqfI
Posted by: In Reel Life (yes, dummy, on purpose)


Take the shorter runway don't fly marginal VFR into IMC to turn back to the longer one.

Posted by: JEM at December 29, 2021 01:35 PM (NBJvQ)

439 Considering many think Obama runs a shadow government, I wonder which side Obama is on.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 29, 2021 01:27 PM (Do5/p)

Barky is a community agitator/communist. He wants chaos. He NEEDS chaos.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 29, 2021 01:36 PM (Fs5vw)

440 I think it is time we start using the word "poppycock" again.


A lot.

With a Julia Child accent.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 29, 2021 01:36 PM (OTXUv)

441 Republicans across America are pressing local jurisdictions and state lawmakers to make typically sleepy school board races into politicized, partisan elections

Implied but not stated is the fact that democrats are never partisan.


Because CRT, putting your sons is a dress, your daughters given to old men, hating God, America. and human Rights and freedom, while completely abandoning Reading, Writing and Arithmetic - is totally uncontroversial, like good, sweet smelling Apple Pie.

Its what the non-slave owning doppelganger of George Washington would have wanted.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 29, 2021 01:37 PM (+LCoQ)

442 But I was told he was just an attention whore and didn't really know what he was talking about.
____________

Yep, Malone is just an attention whore, as is Harvard Med's Kuldorff, that Indian doc at Stanford Med, Peter McCullough (what a show-off with those 650+ medical journal articles!), and every other MD/Ph.D. (in actual science, not "studies") who has been sounding the alarm about the government's insane covid policies.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at December 29, 2021 01:37 PM (k4dH2)

443 >>>Meanwhile, while the nation faces a major shortage in over-the-counter covid tests, CNN's fat neurotic covid panic case -- okay, let me be more specific -- CNN's Chris Cillizza hoards an entire case of the tests.

A lot of people are hoarding these things, because they've made them a necessity for people wanting to live a normal life. They been locked down, jabbed, boosted, and rapid-tested for the promise of normalcy ad nauseum. To be fair to the "dogmatic," most testing is bullshit, regardless of the premise of the article being Brandon's failures and magical science.

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder at December 29, 2021 01:37 PM (SH2Zi)

444 I think there is a radical side like that of "the squad" which is likely aligned with the WEF and Great Reset goals. While there is the more rational side like Joe Manchin which is thinking politics as usual and wants this to go away. I still can't figure out which side Biden's handlers have him as the puppet figurehead. Some days it seems he's a puppet for WEF goals, some days it seems he's out spouting more rational things. Considering many think Obama runs a shadow government, I wonder which side Obama is on.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at December 29, 2021 01:27 PM (Do5/p)

It isn't a two valued solution. Biden's handlers are a faction, but not a dominant one. So they have to sell his name to other factions on a case by case basis to get what they want. Hence the incoherence of policy as faction X does what it wants until it needs Biden, then they have to horsetrade, one side flipping based off backroom deals.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 29, 2021 01:39 PM (eoQWY)

445 Nood

Posted by: flounder, wrecker, hoarder at December 29, 2021 01:39 PM (SH2Zi)

446 It isn't a two valued solution. Biden's handlers are a faction, but not a dominant one. So they have to sell his name to other factions on a case by case basis to get what they want. Hence the incoherence of policy as faction X does what it wants until it needs Biden, then they have to horsetrade, one side flipping based off backroom deals.
==
Oligarchy. Inherently unstable. Will end in blood.

Posted by: its an op, m'kay, ops are bad, m'kay at December 29, 2021 01:40 PM (Lapzy)

447 CDC

We actually dont know how our rapid tests perform and how well they predict whether youre transmissible during the end of disease. The FDA has not authorized them for that use.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 29, 2021 01:40 PM (yrol0)

448 434 While it may be ironic or not, that isn't how it comes off. It isn't ironically accepting the label like we took on 'deplorables' or 'flyover country' in the past, its making a new group tag like the other collectivists. That's why those that don't qualify for whatever reason find it less than amusing.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 29, 2021 01:34 PM (eoQWY)


Acknowledged. FWIW, I will very likely be in the, "bereft of career and livelihood" group next month which I hope the rest of y'all won't qualify for.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at December 29, 2021 01:44 PM (DTX3h)

449 Yeah. You don't need to test negative for something that's basically a cold.

And now that they've gotten their foot in the door of mandates and passports and masking they'll back off for a while and let people digest the new normal and get to the point of that dog in the burning room saying "this is nice".

By 2 years there will be a mandate for an app to have that can be displayed for anyone who needs to see your medical record. You won't have to show it to anyone who doesn't need to know it. Of course who that is will slowly change.

Oh and btw just for some more convenience you can bank (this already happens) and pay and receive using your cell phone. And also regrettably everyone will have to have a cell phone. Even those who are poor. (they already get a semi smart phone thru the Life Line program. They're not that bad a phone and it's free so far)

Then in another couple years, "you know that we've stopped paying out in cash? Well now we're allowing anyone who wants to not receive payment in cash. In fact you won't be able to get cash anywhere. It's expensive and no one needs it anymore. Right comrade?

Posted by: jakee308 at December 29, 2021 01:44 PM (6R0HD)

450 Oh and btw you missadded your balance in your checking account but that's okay as we went ahead and corrected that for you.

No need to thank us. Also since tax time is coming up unless you want to be overcharge for your taxes you need to submit to your bank any deductions and payments that were made outside of your checking account? And also submit form 222A-F that explains why you did not use your authorized checking account to pay that guy who does your garden and the money you got from selling some antiques.

So. Cheers comrade!

Posted by: jakee308 at December 29, 2021 01:47 PM (6R0HD)

451 Yes, the PCR test cannot distinguish between flu and Covid. Even the CDC says so.

Unbelievable.

Funny how they just discovered this now. When people are ready to revolt and when Brandon is a few hundred million PCR tests short.

Posted by: pj at December 29, 2021 01:59 PM (G1dq6)

452 So it does appear that the OSHA ETS implementation has been extended with a grace period.

Posted by: MAGA_Ken at December 29, 2021 02:13 PM (eMEkg)

453 Cameroom

Yes I am so disappointed in the medical field. But nowadays they are employees of Big Med Corp and no longer individual operators. We see this so often where I live.

And lawyers for the most part still are owner-operators. I trust them a lot more.

Posted by: pj at December 29, 2021 02:26 PM (G1dq6)

454 I am reluctantly now in the CICF/Scamdemic "Lobby." Only reluctant bc in March 2021 I did see those selectively edited Chinese twitter videos boosted by our helpful media of a guy who was respiratory-compromised--sorry, drunk--falling over in the street.

I was also wrong in 2002-2003 thinking it was realistic to democratize the M.E.--which was far more catastrophic for the world and America's health and self-respect than any belief in the 2020-End-Date-TBD pandemic has been--though the latter is catching up fast

Posted by: Swamposphere at December 29, 2021 02:55 PM (PvaKb)

455 You have the policy wrong. It has never been the case that you had to test negative before returning to work. Schools never bothered if kids tested negative after a ten or 14 day quarantine. I thought this was because people are less contagious at that time, but perhaps this was a CDC lie and the real reason was the tests are unreliable.


This may be more of an issue now for 5 days without symptoms.

Posted by: MikeN at December 29, 2021 04:32 PM (1M0bq)

456 They should quarantine Bill Gates & Joe Biden

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at December 29, 2021 05:59 PM (FLiOE)

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