Gun Thread: Day After Christmas Edition!

Howdy, Y'all! Welcome to the wondrously fabulous Gun Thread! As always, I want to thank all of our regulars for being here week in and week out, and also offer a bigly Gun Thread welcome to any newcomers who may be joining us tonight. Howdy and thank you for stopping by! I hope you find our wacky conversation on the subject of guns 'n shooting both enjoyable and informative. You are always welcome to lurk in the shadows of shame, but I'd like to invite you to jump into the conversation, say howdy, and tell us what kind of shooting you like to do!

So! It's the day after Christmas, or as our Canadian and UK friends call it, Boxing Day. Gotta say, given a choice betwixt Christmas and Boxing Day, Weasel is going with Christmas every time. Anyhoo, if you're joining us from somewhere where Boxing Day is a thing, I hope you had lots of fun on your, um, holiday. For the rest of us, how was your Christmas? Get any cool gun and shooting stuff? Did you give any cool gun and shooting stuff? Giving is never as much fun as receiving, but some people like it. Or so I've heard.

With that, let's get to the gun stuff below, shall we?

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Homework Review
Last week we had a little homework assignment to complete for this week. In case you missed it, here 'tis:

Math? I Was Told There Would Be No Math!!

You were lied to. There will be math.
So this week I have an assignment for you. A homework problem to study over Christmas break, if you will. I have always said shooting is mostly a big math problem, and this will give you an idea what I am talking about.

The assignment is to watch the video and come prepared next week to discuss how you would apply the covered concepts to shooting. This might be a tough one because you have to think a little beyond the material as presented and apply the concepts to certain shooting situations.
Here are the questions I'd like you to answer:
- Which of the concepts presented are relevant to shooting?
- What shooting problem can you solve using the concept?
- How would you apply the concept to solve the problem?
Good luck!

Did you watch the video? Hmmm? Anyone have any ideas? I'll wait an hour or so for discussion and then will post the answers here around 8pm eastern time.

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And here are the answers!
Cosine! The cosine of an angle is your friend when computing high-angle firing solutions! The same methodology used in the video to approximate the Newtons of force apportioned to the X and Y axis of a right triangle can be used to estimate distance expressed in yards or meters or cubits or whatever. If the hypotenuse of a right angle represents the straight line distance to a target, the opposite side then represents the gravity distance for the shot, or the distance where gravity is affecting the flight of the bullet.

Considerations for High-Angle Shooting
When shooting at an angle greater than about 10 - 15 degrees, you must correct the firing solution for the difference between the straight line range to target and the gravity distance to target. Uncorrected, high angle shots will always impact high whether shooting uphill or downhill. This is because the gravity distance in an angled shot will always be less than the sight distance.

Using an Angle/Cosine Indicator or ACI
Angle/Cosine indicators (example HERE) work when mounted next to the riflescope, by indicating the angle and/or cosine of the angle by means of a level and index marks. The shooter then multiplies the cosine as an adjustment to the straight line distance firing solution for an adjusted gravity distance solution, in MOA or Mils.

Other, and arguably more accurate, options exist for correcting a firing solution for angled shots; for example, input the observed angle into a ballistic computer or use a prepared slope chart. I am generally not a big fan of relying on electronics in computing firing solutions, but they sometimes do have their place. The angle cosine methodology is not perfect at very high angles (beyond about 60 degrees) or very long distances (beyond several hundred yards), but does provide a reliable estimate and field expedient solution.

For further reading, articles that do a good job explaining what I am talking about HERE, HERE and HERE

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It's a Joyous Christmas Miracle!
Welp, the whole dang WeaselFamily piled into the truck on Thursday for the 5 hour drive from Northern Virginia to the Outer Banks of North Carolina, arriving in record bad time some 26 hours later. What happened? A flat tire a couple hours into the trip happened. Although typically not a show-stopper, apparently King Kong had put the lug nuts on the wheel and I couldn't get them loose. Helpful VDOT Roadside Assistance Guy #1 couldn't get them loose either. AAA guy couldn't get them loose, and neither could VDOT Roadside Assistance Guy #2, but he was driving a tow truck and did manage to tow us from the shoulder of the interstate in a bad area into a much worse really seriously bad, depths of Hell section of the 'hood, in Newport News. Fortunately, the amazingly helpful and cool Virginia State Trooper who had stopped on the side of the road originally came back when called and we had a very nice chat waiting for a tow truck to take us to a repair shop. Long story short, we ended up staying the night at a hotel in a much better neighborhood, the truck was fixed the next morning, and we made it to our destination late but safe and sound. Christmas adventure: check!

Q: Weasel, why are you telling us your stupid Christmas story?
A: Calm yourself! I'm getting to it!

So we have talked before about how to handle a police stop when carrying, and it was interesting how this played out. I was in the driver's seat getting ready to call AAA when the State Trooper rolled up so I had my driver's license and concealed weapons permit ready as he approached the door. When he saw them in my hand he said he didn't need to look at them. Huh? So much for my often rehearsed little opening statement about being a CWP holder and being armed. Weasel wuz robbed!

Later, as we were waiting in the 'hood, the Trooper very candidly mentioned how we had gone from a bad neighborhood to worse, and that he'd hang out with us until the tow truck came. Knowing my CWP status was linked to the truck's plates, I acknowledged that I was armed but didn't want get into a gunfight right before Christmas in front of WeaselWoman, WD and FSJ. His response? He laughed and said he'd be surprised if anyone in the area wasn't armed! Grrrrreat. We spent the rest of the time pleasantly talking guns and ammo and shooting.

Anyhoo, here is a video from Massad Ayoob with some ideas for conducting yourself if you're stopped while carrying.

I'm guessing my experience was atypical. Although not required in Virginia, it has always been my intention to acknowledge I'm carrying to a policeman, but the circumstances in this case weren't exactly how I'd envisioned them. I've always sort of imagined that by being up-front, I might get some sort of reciprocal consideration from the cop, as Mas Ayoob even mentions in the video.

How about all y'all?

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First up, our pal A.H. Lloyd sends us an excellent range report.

A few weeks ago I was singing the praises of the Charter Arms Undercoverette, a compact revolver that is almost exactly the same size and weight as a standard .38 Special snubbie but which is chambered in the hard-to-find .32 H&R Magnum. This generally forgotten caliber allows room for an extra chamber in the cylinder (six rounds instead of five in .3, has mild recoil and yet is ballistically superior to standard .38 Special or .380 ACP ammunition loads.
One can also fire .32 Smith and Wesson long through it, which is really mild, and I think is a great option for people with weaker grip strength or who don't like the way pocket .38s and .380s tend to jump around. Such folks might gravitate to a .22 LR or .25 ACP pistol but .32 Long has twice the energy of either, making it far more effective in the self-defense role.
Let's go look at the targets. First up, we have three targets from a quick range session a month ago. As you can see, the Taurus 85 had the best group, but I've been using it for 16 years so it's not exactly fair to compare it to something I'm still breaking in.

AHL 1 122621 38 special Taurus 85 scaled.JPG

Taurus 85 in .38 Special

Next up, we can compare .32 Magnum and .32 Long. Not bad groups, certainly satisfactory for self-defense at maximum range, but I was hitting a little low.

.32 Long

.32 Magnum

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.32 Long with elevation

Like many snubbies, the Undercoverette has fixed sights, so what I needed to do was figure out the proper sight picture for this particular weapon. The next target - which was done in blustery conditions while looking nearly into the sun - looks pretty bad, but I wasn't trying to build a group, just nail down the proper elevation. Once I started to strike the red, that was good enough.
All of which is to say that but for the crippling shortage of .32 Magnum, I think I would make the switch to it.
Until then, the Undercoverette will remain a practice tool, something I can use to ease the pressure on my stocks of .38 Special. I will also use it to teach novice shooters who are ready to move up from .22 LR.

Very nice job, AHL! I am a big fan of the .38 caliber and keep hearing good things about the .32 caliber. Great report. Thank you!

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Speaking of calibers, how about that wacky 9mm? There are a lot more than the trusty old 9mm Parabellum.

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Holy shitballs! Our pal WTM shares the following amazing pic. Anyone have any more info on these airdrop cans?

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Cigar of the Week

Well these look interesting! Another Bahia Maduro from Cigars International. Based on my experience with the Bahia line, these are worth a try at around $3 each.

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Gun Basics 101
Here's the She Equips Herself girl with more concealed carry tips!

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Link-O-Rama

I'm really very seriously not kidding around anymore. Buy Ammo
AmmoSeek - online ammo search tool
GunBot - online ammo search tool
SG Ammo
Palmetto State Armory
Georgia Arms
AmmoMan
Target Sports USA
Bud's Gun Shop

***Mail Bag***

Our pal Fungus Boy sends us this weeks funny.

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

Posted by: Weasel at 07:00 PM

Comments

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1 I'll get em

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2021 07:00 PM (2JoB8)

2 Great job Weasel, BenHad is here visiting and says she will call you tomorrow. I'll be back to check in later.

Posted by: rancherbob at December 26, 2021 07:01 PM (gtu9W)

3 Good evening everyone.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 26, 2021 07:01 PM (mD/uy)

4 "You may fire when you are ready Gridley "

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2021 07:01 PM (2JoB8)

5 Maggie's drawers.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 26, 2021 07:01 PM (a3Q+t)

6 Boxing Day gubs are the best gubs. Thanks, Weasel. I saw Massad Ayoob quoted above and am eager to watch his video as he is most wise.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy (New IP - who dis?) at December 26, 2021 07:03 PM (v23vE)

7 "She Equips Herself girl with more concealed carry tips!"

Yes, I have to admit, they are concealed. Damnit!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 26, 2021 07:04 PM (mD/uy)

8 Will there be a running tally of all the eyes put out by Red Ryder BB guns?

Posted by: Fritzy at December 26, 2021 07:04 PM (VY+MJ)

9 Evening Horde

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at December 26, 2021 07:05 PM (8C7+r)

10 A good deep carry option is one of those neoprene back support wraps. You can carry in any hour position.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 26, 2021 07:05 PM (DAevm)

11 I'm self sufficient. I give AND receive.

Got some new fake walnut grips for my .45.

Got a muzzle flash hider for my carbine. and a new large cap magazine for the carbine.

I might even take some time to get that put on and ready. Cause now I think the mask deal is over here in PA. (Oh they wanted to but the Commonwealth Court said Nuh uh. So no mask mandate.)

So it may be time to GO TO THE RANGE!!! No outdoor ranges this time of year plus you have to have a license as they're all in State Forests. So It's indoors for me.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 26, 2021 07:06 PM (3YVDU)

12 >> Will there be a running tally of all the eyes put out by Red Ryder BB guns?

We need to distinguish between eyes put out by RR vs eyes put out with RR BB guns.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion (Mzdiz) at December 26, 2021 07:06 PM (Mzdiz)

13 2 Great job Weasel, BenHad is here visiting and says she will call you tomorrow. I'll be back to check in later.
Posted by: rancherbob at December 26, 2021 07:01 PM (gtu9W)
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OK! Y'all have fun!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 07:06 PM (fI9Es)

14 She keeps her tips concealed.

But. c'mon man. She's a nice girl.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at December 26, 2021 07:08 PM (rDgjh)

15 I got no shooty goodies this Christmas, but Goddaughter the Younger got a Red Ryder BB gun. Now to train the young one...

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 26, 2021 07:09 PM (PoI2l)

16 Boxing Day boom boom time!

Posted by: Norman Spiny at December 26, 2021 07:09 PM (1jXXF)

17 Hello, Weasel and horde!

Posted by: Ed L at December 26, 2021 07:10 PM (NacE+)

18 I'm still proud of myself for throating the Barsto barrel on my G19 and getting good reliability out if it. I have several Glocks with fitted Barsto barrels, and this is the only one that really gave me trouble.

Posted by: Alphabaker at December 26, 2021 07:10 PM (FmlTX)

19 The wages of sin is death.

Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2021 07:10 PM (LtGlA)

20 Posted by: Alphabaker at December 26, 2021 07:10 PM (FmlTX)
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Howdy Alphabaker! Welcome to the Gun Thread!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 07:11 PM (fI9Es)

21 Evening everyone. Hope you all had a wonderful Christmas with your family and were not reenacting a National Lampoon road trip video like Weasel. :-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 26, 2021 07:11 PM (mcfjc)

22 I had a bullshit traffic stop once and when the cop came to the window I immediately told him I was a CHL holder ( now it's LTC) and I had my weapon on me as instructed to do when you went through license training. He said annoyingly ' so , what do you want me to do about it? '

I about lost it. It went downhill from there. Ever try to fill out a complaint to the Houston PD? So cumbersome that most probably give up. I did.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 26, 2021 07:12 PM (DAevm)

23 The wages of sin is death.
Posted by: Boss Moss at December 26, 2021 07:10 PM (LtGlA)

Then go to work for Jesus.

He can fix that.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 26, 2021 07:12 PM (3YVDU)

24 She is a dream, anyway
On the tire lug problem I had same thing months ago, I was 3 miles from home and couldn't get the lug nuts off, 2 Pa State troopers couldn't get the lug nuts off, drove off ramp of highway and called free service, pretty stocky guy couldn't get lug nuts off, had to get it flat bed truck to dealer and walk home the 3 miles. Makes me think taking them off and on between the 10,000 miles is a good idea every so often.

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2021 07:12 PM (2JoB8)

25 No gun stuff for me for Christmas. Not even a canoe!

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at December 26, 2021 07:13 PM (II3Gr)

26 Howdy, Horde - Just a quick drop in from Montana where the Kids and Grands are keeping me busy, as is their Grandma! The absolute best of the Season to each and everyone of us, and a huge Thank you to the folks who contribute the content and to Weasel for curating the thread. See ya next year!

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at December 26, 2021 07:13 PM (gMngZ)

27 Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2021 07:12 PM (2JoB

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That's what the tire shop guy recommended.

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 07:13 PM (fI9Es)

28 So all you need is a crockpot and some wood and steel and a John Moses Browning recipe? That sounds great for a Sunday supper.

Posted by: Eromero at December 26, 2021 07:14 PM (0OP+5)

29 Posted by: McGyver at December 26, 2021 07:13 PM (gMngZ)
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See you next year, brother!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 07:14 PM (fI9Es)

30 If you get your tires rotated shouldn't be a problem. Unless the tech screws up the torsion.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 26, 2021 07:15 PM (DAevm)

31 Anyone shoot a toaster oven gone bad this Christmas?

Posted by: JuJuBee at December 26, 2021 07:15 PM (mNhhD)

32 Maggie's drawers.
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Again?

Posted by: dartist at December 26, 2021 07:16 PM (+ya+t)

33 Ok, I won't lie: I clicked on the CCW video because of the ladies' rack.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 26, 2021 07:17 PM (dNqv+)

34 Belated Christmas greetings to my fellow Morons and 'Ettes. without whom my life would be a lot less enjoyable. Thank you one and all. Special thanks to Ace, all the cobs, and Weasel for sharing and organizing the collected knowledge of the Horde, at least in re shooting tools.

Btw, I have a MEC Grabber 12ga 6-stage "progressive" (shudder) reloader (the one with an integral brass-resizing die) for sale or trade. I got it new years ago when I shot 200+ rounds/week at skeet; my "progressive" (shudder) disability prevents me from even shouldering a long gun, so my shotgunning days are over. See nic for email.

Posted by: Cowboyneal at December 26, 2021 07:17 PM (U2zo0)

35 No new gubs for Bif. Thinking about a .22LR in 1911 clothing sometime around late February.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at December 26, 2021 07:17 PM (IJES/)

36 Anyone shoot a toaster oven gone bad this Christmas?
Posted by: JuJuBee at December 26, 2021 07:15 PM (mNhhD)

What did it do? Hang around the pool hall? Drag race thru town? Sell loosies to kids?

Posted by: Count de Monet at December 26, 2021 07:17 PM (4I/2K)

37 I had a bullshit traffic stop once and when the cop came to the window I immediately told him I was a CHL holder ( now it's LTC) and I had my weapon on me as instructed to do when you went through license training.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 26, 2021 07:12 PM (DAevm)
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Having watched the Massad Ayood video, I notice he did a special call-out to Michigan.

Yeah, so Michigan *requires* you to disclose if you are carrying, and while some find this odd, I have always found it to be a great benefit. Basically, it writes the script for you.

Officer pulls you over, approaches your window. Officer makes banter and you announce: "I have a CPL and I am carrying."

Now the officer *already knows this* so you are proving that you are an upright citizen and someone worthy of trust.

I will add that I've disclosed even in casual encounters with police ("I should tell you that I have a CPL...") and every time, the cops have reacted with relief if not open affection.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 07:18 PM (llXky)

38 I get She Equips Herself video alerts on my phone these days

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2021 07:18 PM (2JoB8)

39 If anyone is looking for a great weapon related read, find a copy of The Guns of John Moses Browning by Nathan Gorenstein.

Very engaging and well done.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 26, 2021 07:19 PM (mD/uy)

40 Posted by: Just a side note at December 26, 2021 07:12 PM (DAevm)
A lot of cops delight in seeing how mad they can make someone without them blowing a gasket. They get their jollies off.
Best to do is ignore. Just tell them that you were doing as the law required and let it go. And complaints to the police don't do any good. Have a lawyer fill one out if it's bad enough cause the amount of grief you might rouse up is not worth it. Won't do anyone any good. You won't even feel better afterward.
Hands on the wheel, smile on your face and always say sir or maam, never raise your voice or your hands. If they they ask you stupid questions to get a rise out of you just tell them that you don't have anything more to say about it to them. (a gentle way of saying you are invoking your right to silence.)
And then stick to the silence unless it's absolutely necessary. Just keep repeating that you don't have anything to say about anything to them anymore. Works like a charm. No snark so they can't get jacked up. Not starting a discussion that can lead to dangerous topics (remember they are taught that the more you are talking the more likely you will talk your self into an arrest.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 26, 2021 07:19 PM (3YVDU)

41 Q: Weasel, why are you telling us your stupid Christmas story?

* squirms in seat, waving arm wildly over head *

"I know, I know, Mr. Weasel!"
"Ok, young Duncanthrax, why am I telling this Christmas story to you?"
"Because you want to know if your truck left Northern Virginia at a proximate velocity of 175,000 furlongs/fortnight, and a swallow left Outer Banks into a 5 mph crosswind with significant mirage, what time would they meet."

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 26, 2021 07:19 PM (a3Q+t)

42 Of course, there's nobody I would have expected to get me gunz for Christmas, so it's honestly fine!

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Hoarder. Wrecker. at December 26, 2021 07:20 PM (II3Gr)

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Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 07:18 PM (llXky)
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The young guy who helped us was a real credit to his department.

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 07:20 PM (fI9Es)

44 Howdy Weasel -- Hope you had a nice Christmas!

Thanks for yet another fun and informative gun thread. Appreciate what you do for the Horde!

Posted by: Doof at December 26, 2021 07:21 PM (mZUr4)

45 Makes me think taking them off and on between the 10,000 miles is a good idea every so often.
Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2021 07:12 PM (2JoB

The staff mechanic said there are a lot of dissimilar metals in use now a days and a lot of idiots that do not understand how to set up a torque wrench, so yes!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 07:21 PM (hOUT3)

46 I will add that I've disclosed even in casual encounters with police ("I should tell you that I have a CPL...") and every time, the cops have reacted with relief if not open affection.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd

After I announced I was carrying, a State of Ohio Trooper said to me "I won't go for mine if you don't go for yours."

Deal!!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 26, 2021 07:21 PM (mD/uy)

47 Range report: New Springfield XD-M Elite in 10mm is a real shooter.......got over 200 rounds through it of different brands and no hiccups. Took off the flared magwell as it cramped my pinkie (this is a compact 10mm) and it feels sooooo much better. 3-4" groups at 7 yards no problemo.
The Glock 30 shot amazingly well as usual although I have no idea why as I hate the grip shape on Glocks.
Thanks for the gun thread as usual Weasel......now to read the content!

Posted by: Norman Spiny at December 26, 2021 07:21 PM (1jXXF)

48 Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 26, 2021 07:19 PM (a3Q+t)
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You will be happy to know your two little pals behaved themselves in the back seat during the whole ordeal!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 07:22 PM (fI9Es)

49 The young guy who helped us was a real credit to his department.

Sure sounds like it. Glad that all worked out the way it did for ya.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 26, 2021 07:22 PM (Xrfse)

50 Posted by: Doof at December 26, 2021 07:21 PM (mZUr4)
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Thanks Doof! Merry Christmas!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 07:23 PM (fI9Es)

51 Merry Christmas horde. I've been to the range and maybe best Christmas ever! I tried to make it up to the range Wed. with my new 6 Creedmoor but too much snow. So I went to another range and ran a bunch of test loads over my chrono. That went so well that I went home, loaded up 50 of my new loads and rebarrelled one of my 308's to 6 Creedmoor. We had a big snow melt so I was able to make it up to the range on Christmas eve. It was 40 and blowing 20+, straight at my back. From first shot to loading up the car was less than 15 minutes, I got both rifles sighted in and shot a flawless 25 round mag out of each. Best Christmas ever!!

Posted by: ck at December 26, 2021 07:24 PM (iBg56)

52 Posted by: Norman Spiny at December 26, 2021 07:21 PM (1jXXF)
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My pleasure!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 07:24 PM (fI9Es)

53 Frankly, the Good Lord equipted her quite nicely.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at December 26, 2021 07:24 PM (rDgjh)

54 Thanks Doof! Merry Christmas!
Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 07:23 PM (fI9Es)

You're welcome and thank you!

Posted by: Doof at December 26, 2021 07:24 PM (mZUr4)

55 Posted by: jakee308 at December 26, 2021 07:19 PM (3YVDU)

I know where the line is. You know what they don't like ? Asking who there supervising officer is.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 26, 2021 07:24 PM (DAevm)

56 Hey, Weasel, glad you liked the range report!

I'm idle for the time being, but I'm trying to put together a group for some indoor range time in January. Alas, we lost Hogmartin to Texas (he went from the Texas of the North to the actual Texas, go figure).

Still we muddle on as we must.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 07:24 PM (llXky)

57 Posted by: ck at December 26, 2021 07:24 PM (iBg56)
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Congratulations! Next time you go, send us a range report!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 07:25 PM (fI9Es)

58 Well, I bought a Navy 1861 in .36 caliber. Finally shot it some this weekend. Like all black powder guns, it's a blast to shoot.
Cleans up MUCH nicer than the Remington '58.

Posted by: MkY at December 26, 2021 07:26 PM (cPGH3)

59 Quick range report, Weasel ... Went this morning, and could see that I was plain worn out by all the Christmas festivities. Shot my new P2000 and continued to learn from the DAO action. Someone I know counseled me and was certainly right: DAO practice will clean up your trigger work. Good call on his part. Also shot his Glock 17L, but just couldn't pick up the front site. Too thin for again eyes, and I started searching, flexing my wrist, and doing bad things. ;-)

Posted by: secondcitylurker at December 26, 2021 07:26 PM (MEbkQ)

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Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 07:24 PM (llXky)
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Nicely done. Thank you for sending it in!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 07:26 PM (fI9Es)

61 Good evening gub threaders.

My plan to go shooting in FL was foiled by time taking over things. As is it's wont.

So now just tooling along through the Southeast with a number of guns and ammo that the media might call an arsenal, but really, no more than one gun per person in the car and only 100ish rounds per gun.

I thought I had filled my gun checklist and PSA has the P365XL Tacpac for $599 and really only the fact that I don't have the money is stopping me.

Posted by: blaster at December 26, 2021 07:26 PM (w2z2p)

62 Posted by: secondcitylurker at December 26, 2021 07:26 PM (MEbkQ)
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Nice! Welcome back!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 07:27 PM (fI9Es)

63 Using the cos of the angle you are shooting is very important when shooting long range and/or steep terrain, like Afghanistan. Instead using commercial "Slope-Dopers", I took a 75 cent plastic school protractor and printed out the cos of 0-90 degrees in 5 degree increments, twice, and glued them to their relative position on the scale. I then laminated the whole thing to make it waterproof and took a length of dental floss and a weight at the end; I used a 308 projectile. All I had to do was sight down the straight end of the protractor to the target, the weighted string found the angle, then I grip the floss to keep a steady index when I took it off my eye. I now had the cos to multiply to get my adjusted range. I still used this as a back-up to my LRFs which do all the work now, but when I first joined the Corps in the late 80s, LRFs were big and clunky devices; the GVS-5 was only good for about 100 lases per battery.

Posted by: RobertM at December 26, 2021 07:28 PM (fU5W6)

64 See Through Suppressor [tippy thing that screws on the end of the barrel] in Super Slow Motion (110,000 fps) - Smarter Every Day

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pOXunRYJIw

Posted by: Braenyard at December 26, 2021 07:29 PM (CLkaN)

65 After I announced I was carrying, a State of Ohio Trooper said to me "I won't go for mine if you don't go for yours."

Deal!!

Posted by: Tonypete at December 26, 2021 07:21 PM (mD/uy)
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Cops are actual people who want to do a job that needs to be done. If you act like a jackass, they will treat you like a jackass.

I've been pulled over *mumbles* times over the years and always get off with a warning because when I get stopped, my first priority is to make sure the officer feels safe. You can see the relief when they realize you're one of the 'good guys' and this stop is going to go quick and easy.

And yes, one of them told me that. They know that CPL holders are clean, which is a great relief to them.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 07:29 PM (llXky)

66 Posted by: RobertM at December 26, 2021 07:28 PM (fU5W6)
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Winner!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 07:29 PM (fI9Es)

67 We had a quiet Christmas day. The only gun related activity was to catch up with posts on my favorite Gun forums: The High Road, the Muzzleloading Forum, and Cast Boolits. Always some fun and informative reading there.

I was struck again by how many of the folks on those forums would feel right at home on AOSHQ.

Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021 07:29 PM (7EjX1)

68 SAD

At my alma mater, the University of Virginia, the number of books checked out of the library fell from 528,672 in 2008 2009 to 188,302 in 2017 2018.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 26, 2021 07:30 PM (yrol0)

69 So far my only encounter with the police was when I got pulled over for a valid speeding ticket. When he came to the door, his first question was "Do you have weapons in the car?", obviously he knew from running the plates that I had a carry permit.

After I answered in the affirmative, we preceded to discuss why my not wearing a seat belt made me a candidate for a failure to observe road conditions ticket, NOT a speeding ticket. I paid the ticket via a credit card, no court appearance nor a speeding citation on my record!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 07:30 PM (hOUT3)

70 Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021 07:29 PM (7EjX1)
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Howdy, JTB! Yep, the High Road is an especially excellent resource.

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 07:31 PM (fI9Es)

71 NICE:

Joan Didion on Self-Respect In brief, people with self-respect exhibit a certain toughness, a kind of moral nerve; they display what was once called character, a quality which, although approved in the abstract, sometimes loses ground to other, more instantly negotiable virtues Self-respect is something that our grandparents, whether or not they had it, knew all about.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 26, 2021 07:31 PM (yrol0)

72 Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 07:30 PM (hOUT3)
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I'm pretty sure the Trooper wanted to recruit WD and FSJ for the force.

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 07:33 PM (fI9Es)

73 A.H. Lloyd's rundown on those small cal's. neat.

Just finished this vid comparing the .25, 32, and 380 by Paul Harrell.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pOXunRYJIw

Posted by: Braenyard at December 26, 2021 07:34 PM (CLkaN)

74 Can I haz a vacuum packed MG42 and maybe 8,000 rounds of belted ammo?

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 26, 2021 07:34 PM (n9Xgr)

75 I'm pretty sure the Trooper wanted to recruit WD and FSJ for the force.
Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 07:33 PM (fI9Es)/i]

Yes, and if Conor had been with me, there would soon have been a dangerous trio of fierce police dogs in NoVA!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 07:35 PM (hOUT3)

76 crap

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 07:35 PM (hOUT3)

77 39 ... "If anyone is looking for a great weapon related read, find a copy of The Guns of John Moses Browning by Nathan Gorenstein."

Tonypete,
Between the book thread and now here, you've worn me down. I just ordered a hardcover of the Browning book. It should arrive this week. (Okay, it wasn't too difficult to wear me down.)

Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021 07:36 PM (7EjX1)

78 Bought Pat Kilchermann's Conceal & Carry University DVDs as gifts to myself.

Learned a bunch about what NOT to do, and haven't even fired a handgun yet...amazing the things that can turn around ugly situations if/when encountering armed thug(s)...and the dumb mistakes that can be avoided.

Posted by: Ju at December 26, 2021 07:36 PM (aTmM/)

79 Hrothgar skates the lip of the Barrel

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 26, 2021 07:36 PM (n9Xgr)

80 So far my only encounter with the police was when I got pulled over for a valid speeding ticket. When he came to the door, his first question was "Do you have weapons in the car?", obviously he knew from running the plates that I had a carry permit.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 07:30 PM (hOUT3)
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All police is local. It really is. I live in a liberal college town but I feel perfectly safe because I grew up here and know the cops.

I've been stopped many times over the years, usually because the tail light was out or something stupid, but because I treat the the officers with respect (and this absolutely includes keeping hands on the wheel, etc.) I get off with a warning because they are reasonable people who don't get off on inflicting pain for its own sake.

In one memorable incident, I got stopped for a bad turn signal light, and we ended up chatting for half an hour in a leafy neighborhood because college town and we had a lot of gossip to catch up on. No ticket.

Be nice to your local cops. They're your neighbors and don't hate you unless you make them.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 07:37 PM (llXky)

81 77 39 ... "If anyone is looking for a great weapon related read, find a copy of The Guns of John Moses Browning by Nathan Gorenstein."

Tonypete,
Between the book thread and now here, you've worn me down. I just ordered a hardcover of the Browning book. It should arrive this week. (Okay, it wasn't too difficult to wear me down.)
Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021 07:36 PM (7EjX1)
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My BIL and SIL gave me the book for Christmas!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 07:37 PM (fI9Es)

82 Self-respect is something that our grandparents, whether or not they had it, knew all about.
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 26, 2021 07:31 PM (yrol0)

I tend to think the concepts (and duties) of honor, integrity, and self-respect are intertwined!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 07:37 PM (hOUT3)

83 Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021 07:36 PM (7EjX1)

JTB, you are going to love that book!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 07:38 PM (hOUT3)

84 Posted by: Ju at December 26, 2021 07:36 PM (aTmM/)
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Smart! Welcome to the Gun Thread!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 07:38 PM (fI9Es)

85 Hello Gun thread enthusiasts. I picked up the replaced Rossi was wearing a mask.(they are still required indoors in Montgomery Cty). I made mention I was looking flare to taking it to the range and he asked me where I shoot. When I mentioned ESS, his whole attitude changed. Like I became an immediate club member. When I told him I had a couple of recommendations on 9 mms, he proceeded to give me a tour of the store, let me handle a bunch of really nice ones, including the Glock 19 mos and the Glock 48.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 26, 2021 07:38 PM (Y+l9t)

86 Hrothgar skates the lip of the Barrel
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 26, 2021 07:36 PM (n9Xgr)

Timing is everything!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 07:39 PM (hOUT3)

87 62 Posted by: secondcitylurker at December 26, 2021 07:26 PM (MEbkQ)
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Nice! Welcome back!
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Thanks Weasel. Kudos for everything you do week in and out. Really helped get me back to the range.

Merry Christmas to you and yours!

Posted by: secondcitylurker at December 26, 2021 07:39 PM (MEbkQ)

88 Just finished this vid comparing the .25, 32, and 380 by Paul Harrell.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 26, 2021 07:34 PM (CLkaN)
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I like Paul Harrell because he generally agrees with me, which proves he is a very wise man.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 07:39 PM (llXky)

89 You will be happy to know your two little pals behaved themselves in the back seat during the whole ordeal!
Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 07:22 PM

I'm glad to hear they were well-behaved. OTOH, there have been certain rumors concerning the behavior of the guests of the WAHFUAUVSA.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 26, 2021 07:39 PM (a3Q+t)

90 Cont.....
When I mentioned the Walther PPQ, he said Walther has a new model, The PDP. I looked it up and it looks cool. Has anyone tried it out?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 26, 2021 07:39 PM (Y+l9t)

91 Weasel, about those M1911 airdrop cans: I don't think that's what they're for. They're meant for long term storage of M1911 pistols "just in case" they were needed again at some point in the future. At the end of WWII and into the 1950s, Army arsenals (Springfield and Rock Island in particular, but others took part as well) overhauled or rebuilt tens of thousands of M1911 and M1911A1 pistols before storing them away in cans like these. Each can could store fifty pistols, with one magazine in the grip and one spare (as seen in the photo). Some pistols (those delivered in August and September 1945) may have gone straight into cans like these upon delivery, but most were overhauled or rebuilt. You can readily identify rebuilt 1911/M1911A1 pistols by their mismatched parts from different manufacturers and eras (functionality was the only criteria) and arsenal initials stamped on the pistols. Some of these are:
SA: Springfield Armory
RIA: Rock Island Arsenal
LAD: Letterkenny Army Depot
ANAD: Anniston Army Depot
AA: Augusta Arsenal

Posted by: Ed L at December 26, 2021 07:40 PM (NacE+)

92 Posted by: secondcitylurker at December 26, 2021 07:39 PM (MEbkQ)
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Happy to hear it. Thanks for being here and participating!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 07:40 PM (fI9Es)

93 Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 07:29 PM (llXky)

1982 I had JUST pulled into town, after driving my Camaro cross country, on leave, to attend a friend's wedding. First time I'd been back to my hometown for a couple of years.

Was 4 miles per hour over the limit, and red and blue lights behind... was going... COME ON... I'd just done a pretty high speed run clean across country.

Cop gets out... comes up to my window... and goes 'HI! you back for the wedding?' Was a guy I'd gone to school with.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 26, 2021 07:40 PM (oHd/0)

94 Something got lost in my first post. No one was wearing a mask. That was my first good sign.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 26, 2021 07:41 PM (Y+l9t)

95 Mrs. tbodie and I bought each other matching, identical 22lr semi-auto pistols for Christmas.

Went to the range to test drive them. We each shot 20 rds thru "our" pistols, then traded and shot 20 rds thru the other pistol. Long story short, I lost my pistol cause she liked it better. It really did shoot noticeably better.

Just a reminder that each gun is unique.

P.S. Now I will have to go back to range, often, to figure out "my new" 22lr. Dang the luck.

Posted by: tbodie at December 26, 2021 07:41 PM (7T5tR)

96 Posted by: Ed L at December 26, 2021 07:40 PM (NacE+)
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Makes sense. Thanks Ed L!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 07:41 PM (fI9Es)

97 MkY it's the action that's fun to shoot but I want a 44 cal,
Can you cast your own ?

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2021 07:41 PM (2JoB8)

98 Kamala Harris Says Democracy Is Biggest National Security Threat in CBS Interview

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 26, 2021 07:41 PM (yrol0)

99 PA's flintlock only deer season starts tomorrow, but the weather report doesn't look conducive for keeping your powder dry.

Posted by: Cosda at December 26, 2021 07:42 PM (SHZEp)

100 Posted by: tbodie at December 26, 2021 07:41 PM (7T5tR)
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Congrats!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 07:42 PM (fI9Es)

101 AMF USSR

12.26.1991

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 26, 2021 07:43 PM (yrol0)

102 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pOXunRYJIw

Posted by: Braenyard at December 26, 2021 07:34 PM (CLkaN)
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BTW, this link runs to some weird suppressor video.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 07:44 PM (llXky)

103 Ed L. @ 91- That's what I figured too. I'd like to order 2 buckets, please.

Posted by: Eromero at December 26, 2021 07:44 PM (0OP+5)

104 Btw I saw a Prius on I95 today with California plates.

It had a large vinyl "Let's Go Brandon!" across the back window.

Posted by: blaster at December 26, 2021 07:45 PM (w2z2p)

105 End the day before Christmas as Holiday and make it 12/26

USSR and Communis Died!

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 26, 2021 07:45 PM (yrol0)

106 To finish my gun store story, when we got to the end of the visit and he finished running the background check, he told me that he would waive the transfer fee(about $60) and the store would eat the cost.
It makes sense to buy my next gun from them as it would save shipping and transfer fees, Al least a $100, so he didn't have to do that but it sure made me a customer. Prices looked comparable to what I've seen on line and the ammo in the store was also good price.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 26, 2021 07:45 PM (Y+l9t)

107 104 Btw I saw a Prius on I95 today with California plates.

It had a large vinyl "Let's Go Brandon!" across the back window.
Posted by: blaster at December 26, 2021 07:45 PM (w2z2p)

I saw a Dead Head sticker on a Cadillac!

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 26, 2021 07:46 PM (yrol0)

108 Btw I saw a Prius on I95 today with California plates.

It had a large vinyl "Let's Go Brandon!" across the back window.
Posted by: blaster at December 26, 2021 07:45 PM (w2z2

Now that's a real oxyMORON.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 26, 2021 07:46 PM (DAevm)

109 When I mentioned the Walther PPQ, he said Walther has a new model, The PDP. I looked it up and it looks cool. Has anyone tried it out?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 26, 2021 07:39 PM (Y+l9t)
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I'm a big fan of the PPQ and I'm of mixed emotions on it being discontinued.

On the one hand, I'm sad, because I like it immensely.

At the same time, I now own a collectors item! Woohoo!

I like Walthers in general, so I would explore this further.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 07:46 PM (llXky)

110 Mini range report: I love 6 Creedmoor. When you "eyeball" gas block installations like I do, the first piece of brass flying into the brass catcher is perhaps even more satisfying than the first boom.

Posted by: ck at December 26, 2021 07:47 PM (iBg56)

111 Desmond Tutu, Archbishop Who Helped End Reliable Electricity and Running Water, Dies at 90.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 26, 2021 07:48 PM (yrol0)

112 Tonypete,
Between the book thread and now here, you've worn me down.
Posted by: JTB

I try to use my powers for good instead of evil.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 26, 2021 07:48 PM (mD/uy)

113 I saw a Dead Head sticker on a Cadillac!

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 26, 2021 07:46 PM (yrol0)
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No one under 40 knows what this even means.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 07:48 PM (llXky)

114 Loved the pic of the can full of SF 1911's. They could drop one over my house and I wouldn't mind. Even if it went through my roof.

Posted by: Norman Spiny at December 26, 2021 07:49 PM (1jXXF)

115 Desmond Tutu, Archbishop Who Helped End Reliable Electricity and Running Water, Dies at 90.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 26, 2021 07:48 PM (yrol0)
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There is no logical contradiction between wanting to see apartheid end and noting that South Africa has screw'd itself.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 07:50 PM (llXky)

116 I saw a Dead Head sticker on a Cadillac!
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 26, 2021 07:46 PM (yrol0)
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That was probably JackStraw.

Posted by: IrishEi at December 26, 2021 07:51 PM (0TVNF)

117 Desmond Tutu, Archbishop Who Helped End Reliable Electricity and Running Water, Dies at 90.
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 26, 2021 07:48 PM (yrol0)

Sounds like saving mother earf does not decrease your allotted span.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 07:51 PM (hOUT3)

118 80: Michael Berry? Is that you?

Posted by: Cow Demon at December 26, 2021 07:51 PM (FLNW1)

119 Eromero at December 26, 2021 07:44 PM (0OP+5)
Unfortunately, you're about 55-60 years too late. So many surplus M1911 pistols came on the market in this time period that Colt sales of new commercial Government Model pistols were hugely depressed, impacting Colt's profitability. It took DOD contracts for the AR15/M16 series of rifles to bring Colt back into the black. Today, 1950s and 1960s Colt Government Models are relatively hard to come by for this reason.

Posted by: Ed L at December 26, 2021 07:52 PM (NacE+)

120 106 To finish my gun store story, when we got to the end of the visit and he finished running the background check, he told me that he would waive the transfer fee(about $60) and the store would eat the cost. It makes sense to buy my next gun from them as it would save shipping and transfer fees, Al least a $100, so he didn't have to do that but it sure made me a customer. Prices looked comparable to what I've seen on line and the ammo in the store was also good price.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 26, 2021 07:45 PM (Y+l9t)

Great to hear you found a store that treats you well, {{{Sharon}}}, and hi!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 26, 2021 07:52 PM (v23vE)

121 58 ... "Well, I bought a Navy 1861 in .36 caliber. Finally shot it some this weekend. Like all black powder guns, it's a blast to shoot.
Cleans up MUCH nicer than the Remington '58."

MkY,
Congrats on the 1861 Colt. (Glad you found some percussion caps.) The Remington 1858 has some advantages for shooting and switching cylinders but cleaning the open top Colts is easier. And I like the balance of the Colts better.

Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021 07:54 PM (7EjX1)

122 There is a remake of that song, now its a "Black Flag sticker"

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 26, 2021 07:55 PM (n9Xgr)

123 Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 26, 2021 07:45 PM (Y+l9t)

Sharon, that's great! Savings are always welcome, aren't they?

Posted by: Ed L at December 26, 2021 07:55 PM (NacE+)

124 Unfortunately, you're about 55-60 years too late. So many surplus M1911 pistols came on the market in this time period that Colt sales of new commercial Government Model pistols were hugely depressed, impacting Colt's profitability. It took DOD contracts for the AR15/M16 series of rifles to bring Colt back into the black. Today, 1950s and 1960s Colt Government Models are relatively hard to come by for this reason.

Posted by: Ed L at December 26, 2021 07:52 PM (NacE+)
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Colt stupidly pulled out of the civilian market in the 1990s and relied on military contracts to survive, thereby missing the Obama bull market in civilian sales.

Now they're belatedly catching up, but mostly they are doing repops of legacy revolvers.

If those people had one ounce of sense, they'd be cranking out a modern, polymer Model 1903 in .32 ACP and piling up money in the bank.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 07:55 PM (llXky)

125 There is no logical contradiction between wanting to see apartheid end and noting that South Africa has screw'd itself.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 07:50 PM (llXky)

Am I racist to point out Black Power means darkness and skunkwater in about 99.9% of the world.

Hell did even WokeKanda have running water?

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 26, 2021 07:55 PM (yrol0)

126 Thinking of cashing some gun fund cash with
Christmas money and buying a Sig P365. Anyone with some experience with one?

Posted by: Agitator at December 26, 2021 07:56 PM (KzbMc)

127 122 There is a remake of that song, now its a "Black Flag sticker"
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 26, 2021 07:55 PM (n9Xgr)

I saw a Black Flag sticker on a Cadillac?

Bug Spray??

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 26, 2021 07:56 PM (yrol0)

128 Sin and cos?

Well, now, I recollect that sin is when you do somethin' you hadn't oughta, and cos is the reason you done it. For example, I once't stole a jug of shine from Elmer's barn. The sin was I took it, and the cos was I didn't have any.

Posted by: Paco at December 26, 2021 07:58 PM (njExo)

129 Am I racist to point out Black Power means darkness and skunkwater in about 99.9% of the world.

Hell did even WokeKanda have running water?

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 26, 2021 07:55 PM (yrol0)
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As I said, it is possible to condemn apartheid and also note that South Africa screwed itself.

Look at Botswana. Stable, prosperous, democratic.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 07:59 PM (llXky)

130 The 9mm video was fascinating. I knew about the Makarov variant, but not about many of the others. Thanks for that, Weasel.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 26, 2021 07:59 PM (v23vE)

131 MkY it's the action that's fun to shoot but I want a 44 cal,
Can you cast your own ?
Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2021 07:41 PM (2JoB

Yeah, the '58 is a .44.
Casting my own? Nah, I've just been shooting round ball. They're pricier than they should be, but for the cost of a shot tower?
I've not gone the boolit route...yet.

Posted by: MkY at December 26, 2021 08:00 PM (cPGH3)

132 OK - updated the thread with answers above.

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 08:00 PM (wFH5b)

133 There is a remake of that song, now its a "Black Flag sticker"

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 26, 2021 07:55 PM (n9Xgr)
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Wow, kids these days are dumb.

Yeah, I know, but the dumbness seems to be snowballing.

Wonder if my grandkids will even know how to use fire.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 08:00 PM (llXky)

134 I saw a Black Flag sticker on a Cadillac?

Bug Spray??

Punk band.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at December 26, 2021 08:01 PM (SchxB)

135 OK - updated the thread with answers above.

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 08:00 PM (wFH5b)
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When I saw the word "math," I scrolled past. Rapidly.

I don't like math.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 08:02 PM (llXky)

136 Side note see at Frontpage Mag Kyle Rittenhouse is man of the year, sadly yesterday my dad, who isn't a liberal or Leftist but does get all his new from them thought he should have been convicted of murder, my cousin and me tried to tell him it was a stupid case but not sure he was having it though no doubt the first he ever heard our opinion.

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2021 08:03 PM (2JoB8)

137 Even tho it was directed by the teachers and the teachers union, the parents bear the brunt of the failure of the kids to be educated.

Too many not paying attention and making assumptions.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 26, 2021 08:03 PM (3YVDU)

138 Thinking of cashing some gun fund cash with
Christmas money and buying a Sig P365. Anyone with some experience with one?
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I have 2. One is my EDC. Fabulous. Fits my hand like a glove
and shoots way better than you would think. There is a reason this is the #1 selling handgun in the country right now.

Posted by: Norman Spiny at December 26, 2021 08:03 PM (1jXXF)

139 Ed L, yes and it was especially nice because that damn rifle has been such a pain in the ass. I sure hope this replacement works. It dry fired fine but I won't really know until I can get to the range.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 26, 2021 08:03 PM (Y+l9t)

140 Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 26, 2021 07:59 PM (v23vE)
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Glad you liked it!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 08:04 PM (fI9Es)

141 Why do people feel like they need all these fancy modern laserguns when all you need is a double barreled shotgun? That's all you really need! If some dog-faced pony soldier is comin' up on your property lookin to make trouble you just fire a blast into the air and if that don't scare him off, fire a second blast while yellin' at the rapscallion!

*sharts*

And if it's Cornpop who's lookin to rustle your leg hairs, you don't even need a gun, just settle come out to the chain with a parkin' lot and... you know... do the thing...

Posted by: Grampa Biden at December 26, 2021 08:04 PM (0sE8x)

142 Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 07:55 PM (llXky)
I think Colt has stopped making more classic/legendary firearms than most other manufacturers have ever made. That said, they're not the industry powerhouse they used be 60-70 years ago. I doubt they have the capacity to make more than what they have in their lineup now. With every Python and Anaconda they can make already spoken for before they leave the factory, I'm not expecting any new product lines coming out anytime soon.

Posted by: Ed L at December 26, 2021 08:04 PM (NacE+)

143 Wonder if my grandkids will even know how to use fire.
Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 08:00 PM (llXky)

I wonder if my grand-kids will know how to use the electricity that we had before we had to use fire!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 08:05 PM (hOUT3)

144 Lyman makes single bullet mold, I have one for my Brown Bess 75cal, it leaves a little flat spot where you pour in the lead that needs to be filed smooth. I will get one if/ when I get a Dragoon I want.

Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2021 08:06 PM (2JoB8)

145 Harvard:

Orientals with SAT 41%

Orientals without SAT 20%

Justice

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 26, 2021 08:07 PM (yrol0)

146 By the way, big Nation's Gun Show next weekend at Dulles Expo Center. Yes, even though it's New Year's weekend still Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Hoping to pick a day to meet up with the MGC and any others who might be in the area.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 26, 2021 08:08 PM (Y+l9t)

147 A sacrilegious painting of George Floyd depicted as Jesus being cradled by Mary has been stolen, twice, from the Catholic University of America in DC.

Probably for Mass Worship.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 26, 2021 08:09 PM (yrol0)

148 Orientals with SAT 41%
Orientals without SAT 20%
Justice
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 26, 2021 08:07 PM (yrol0)

Funny, but if they are PRC controlled assets, I do not have a problem with that!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 08:09 PM (hOUT3)

149 Funny, but if they are PRC controlled assets, I do not have a problem with that!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 08:09 PM (hOUT3)

What if they want Harvard to be dumbed down?

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 26, 2021 08:10 PM (yrol0)

150 I think Colt has stopped making more classic/legendary firearms than most other manufacturers have ever made. That said, they're not the industry powerhouse they used be 60-70 years ago. I doubt they have the capacity to make more than what they have in their lineup now. With every Python and Anaconda they can make already spoken for before they leave the factory, I'm not expecting any new product lines coming out anytime soon.

Posted by: Ed L at December 26, 2021 08:04 PM (NacE+)
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When Colt decided to abandon the civilian market in the late 90s, they were giving up all their master craftsmen, decades of skilled tradesmen. The King Cobra was an entry-level revolver with precision targeting. They threw away a century of expertise because they figured civilian arms were a dead end and military contracts were the future.

Idiots.

Colt abandoned innovation long ago. Again, women are a huge force in the gun market today, so were are the new Vest Pockets and Pocket Hammerless models using polymer and updated ergonomics?

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 08:11 PM (llXky)

151 *taps chin*

Gads anime has gotten cheaper. About 40 hours of anime for $90. And on Blu-ray no less. As opposed to spending $49 for a 30 minute subtitled VHS tape of one episode. Or $90 for one laser disc.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 26, 2021 08:12 PM (n9Xgr)

152 gun show in PA in January.

Couldn't go last year supposedly there won't be a mask mandate or vaxx mandate as the Gov got shot down by the court.

We'll see.

Lots of things gonna happen in January i'd bet.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 26, 2021 08:12 PM (3YVDU)

153 Welp, I'm going to have to bail early tonight, but I appreciate the conversation/debate.

Thanks again, Weasel!

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 08:12 PM (llXky)

154 What if they want Harvard to be dumbed down?
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 26, 2021 08:10 PM (yrol0)

Hmm, I'll have to ponder that for a bit.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 08:13 PM (hOUT3)

155 Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 08:12 PM (llXky)
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Thanks AHL!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 08:13 PM (fI9Es)

156 99 ... "PA's flintlock only deer season starts tomorrow, but the weather report doesn't look conducive for keeping your powder dry."

While not foolproof, there are a few ways to limit rain problems with flintlocks. The easiest is to use a 'cow's knee'. That's a leather cover that ties around the lock and keeps the rain out, at least in theory. I've also heard of sealing the seam between the pan and the frizzen with grease.

Or just wait for the rain to stop. Nah, too simple.

Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021 08:14 PM (7EjX1)

157 "PA's flintlock only deer season starts tomorrow, but the weather report doesn't look conducive for keeping your powder dry."

Kinda neat. Mo. has bastardized all the unique hunting seasons.

Posted by: MkY at December 26, 2021 08:16 PM (cPGH3)

158 I got a Lee Enfield No. 5 Mk 1 (Jungle Carbine) back from the gunsmith the day before Christmas. She's purdy; I sent you a photo for a future gub thread if deemed worthy. Unfortunately, I can't find .303 British for love nor money to replenish my boolit inventory.

Posted by: butch at December 26, 2021 08:16 PM (cHvOo)

159 Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021 08:14 PM (7EjX1)
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Shooting prone in the rain is NOT fun! Even with center fire cartridges, you absolutely have to keep your ammo dry or risk potential over pressure problems in the chamber.

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 08:17 PM (fI9Es)

160 Posted by: butch at December 26, 2021 08:16 PM (cHvOo)
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Nice! Sent recently?

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 08:17 PM (fI9Es)

161 Re: Math problem
Historical reference: At Guadalcanal, Gunnery Sergeant Mitchell Page (CMH recipient) used his MG platoon's M1917 machineguns (.30 caliber water cooled) to deliver accurate indirect fire on the Japanese at 1,000 yards and area denial fire on terrain features at 2,000 yards. The Brits and Aussies would concentrate an entire MG battalion of .303 Vickers machineguns (96 guns total) to do same thing on the WWI Western Front and in WWII on New Guinea and Europe. This kind of concentration would deny acres of land from enemy use.

Posted by: Ed L at December 26, 2021 08:18 PM (NacE+)

162 Dont waste your time on the pathetic dad who humiliated his family to say F U to the president on Christmas Eve. Hes irrelevant. Spend your time asking why Republican leaders are celebrating him. This isnt my parents Republican Party. This new crew are indecent to their core. https://t.co/DQdMR6HnMN

Rep. Eric Swalwell

Dude you are fucking chinese spies while married.

My Republican dad never fucked a spy. Chinese married or not

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 26, 2021 08:18 PM (yrol0)

163 Thanks for the Gun Thread Weasel! Happy New Year!

Posted by: DBCooper at December 26, 2021 08:19 PM (sOXXq)

164 Converted Christmas cash into a drop in trigger to replace the standard one in my previous ar build. Ke arms slt-2 flat face. Kind of expensive but that is what KE arms recommend for their polymer lower. It will fit no problems. No adjustments required.

Note- this trigger pack lets you use the safety even with the hammer down.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at December 26, 2021 08:19 PM (0OmEj)

165 Posted by: DBCooper at December 26, 2021 08:19 PM (sOXXq)
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Thanks DBCooper! Appreciate your tuning in to talk about guns and shooting. Happy New Year!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 08:20 PM (fI9Es)

166 .308 or .223 for Ar's?

Posted by: Dinkling at December 26, 2021 08:20 PM (LDle5)

167 Posted by: rhennigantx at December 26, 2021 08:18 PM (yrol0)

Swalwell is a harbinger of both how far we have fallen and of bad things to things to come!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 08:20 PM (hOUT3)

168 Posted by: butch at December 26, 2021 08:16 PM (cHvOo)

Butch, SG Ammo has WWII surplus Canadian ammo for sale as of a few minutes ago. You might have to dump the powder and salvage the brass, though; it's being sold as a collector's item, not for shooting.

Posted by: Ed L at December 26, 2021 08:22 PM (NacE+)

169 167
Swalwell is a harbinger of both how far we have fallen and of bad things to come!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 08:23 PM (hOUT3)

170 Hey Hrothgar. : )

Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His birth at December 26, 2021 08:24 PM (AxTbI)

171 Late. But happy.

Posted by: RI Red - rLD+U at December 26, 2021 08:24 PM (+5+MW)

172 {{{SMH}}}
Hey yourself!
Hope you had a great Christmas Day!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 08:25 PM (hOUT3)

173 Howdy Red and SMH! Christmas full of shooting goodness?

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 08:25 PM (fI9Es)

174 Howdy Red and SMH! Christmas full of shooting goodness?
Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 08:25 PM (fI9Es)

SO, that explains all the holes in those stockings hung with care?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 08:26 PM (hOUT3)

175 .308 or .223 for Ar's? Yes!!

Posted by: ck at December 26, 2021 08:27 PM (iBg56)

176 Posted by: Dinkling at December 26, 2021 08:20 PM (LDle5)
.223/5.56 if you are limited to indoor ranges and/or ammo cost is a factor. Otherwise, it depends on your capabilities/training.

Posted by: Ed L at December 26, 2021 08:27 PM (NacE+)

177 Homework!!!???
Oh damn. That stupid dog!
Up and ate it. Ate the whole danged thing!
All the cos' and two of my sins!
I'll be ready next week. I promise.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 26, 2021 08:27 PM (axyOa)

178 Ammo is the perfect gift. I accidentally got someone the wrong one last year, and they were thrilled.
"Now I have to get a gun in this caliber!"

Posted by: Not From Around Here at December 26, 2021 08:27 PM (wrzAm)

179 Posted by: Diogenes at December 26, 2021 08:27 PM (axyOa)
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F-!!!!!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 08:28 PM (fI9Es)

180 Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 08:28 PM (fI9Es)

Damn, Weasrl be harsh!

Posted by: tbodie at December 26, 2021 08:29 PM (7T5tR)

181 What if they want Harvard to be dumbed down?
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 26, 2021 08:10 PM

This is about me, isn't it?

Posted by: David Hogg, soon-to-be-Harvard-graduate at December 26, 2021 08:29 PM (a3Q+t)

182
Posted by: Not From Around Here at December 26, 2021 08:27 PM (wrzAm)
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Well you don't really need a reason, but that's as good as any!!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 08:29 PM (fI9Es)

183 Late to the thread by a bit. But I did my homework and my answer is below.
Merry Christmas to you Weasel, and happy new year, you are appreciated.
And thanks for the homework assignment. I watched the video and was amazed at how well the guy explained sine and cosine. I did not understand it well in school.
To answer your homework question, using cosine we can determine the Flat Line Distance (FLD), to a target, that is at an angle to us. Some people call this the riflemans rule.
Line of site distance x Cos (angle to target) equals Flat Line Distance (FLD)
A guy, who is part of a company Sierra Bullets, measured the accuracy of riflemans rule, improved riflemans rule, Sierras Rule. He found the improved rule better than the original, and Sierras rule, better than both. Turns out that when a bullet is fired at a target either above or below the shooter, the bullet will go high. How high depends on the inclination angle and the slant range distance.

Posted by: MikeM at December 26, 2021 08:32 PM (X+eRS)

184 P365's the gun so nice I bought it twice. One with the safety and one without. Shoots great in my big hands and I like the sight.

Posted by: f'd at December 26, 2021 08:32 PM (Tnijr)

185 Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 08:26 PM (hOUT3)
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Could be!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 08:32 PM (fI9Es)

186 Y'all talking about gun stuff from Christmas? I guess it'll only be Mua'dib and I that got Dune swag.

Posted by: Draki at December 26, 2021 08:33 PM (TGFWQ)

187 Posted by: Diogenes at December 26, 2021 08:27 PM (axyOa)
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F-!!!!!
Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 08:28 PM (fI9Es)

***

**kicks.dirt**
Hmmm. I've heard fencing can be fun.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 26, 2021 08:33 PM (axyOa)

188 Thanks for the Thread Weasel!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 26, 2021 08:34 PM (QR5m0)

189
Oh damn. That stupid dog!
Up and ate it. Ate the whole danged thing!

He ate up his dog. Ate up his dog.
After twenty minutes he still heaves.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 26, 2021 08:34 PM (63Dwl)

190 144 ... "Lyman makes single bullet mold, I have one for my Brown Bess 75cal, it leaves a little flat spot where you pour in the lead that needs to be filed smooth. I will get one if/ when I get a Dragoon I want."

As an alternative, Lee Precision makes a two cavity round ball mold. They usually sell at MidwayUSA for under 30 bucks. They are aluminum, not iron, but I've used them for round ball and regular bullets for decades. Lyman molds are great and have a lot of fans but cost three times as much and you have to buy the handle separately. I would rather spend the price difference for pure lead.

Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021 08:34 PM (7EjX1)

191 Posted by: MikeM at December 26, 2021 08:32 PM (X+eRS)
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Excellent work, MikeM! Spot on!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 08:35 PM (fI9Es)

192 Hrothgar, did Santa deliver on your Christmas wish of an MP5?

Posted by: Ed L at December 26, 2021 08:36 PM (NacE+)

193 Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 26, 2021 08:34 PM (QR5m0)
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Howdy AZ! My pleasure.

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 08:36 PM (fI9Es)

194 Howdy Red and SMH! Christmas full of shooting goodness?
Posted by: Weasel
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Hi Weasel.

My shooting days are in the past. But I did have a nice Christmas day.

Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His birth at December 26, 2021 08:36 PM (AxTbI)

195 Weasel @ 160 - E-mail sent earlier today.

EdL @ 168 - Yup, I've seen the corrosive surplus Canuckistanian .303 on line. I'm not a reloader and don't want to deal with the post fun cleaning. I do not grok "collectible" ammo. It is supposed to be used.

Posted by: butch at December 26, 2021 08:37 PM (cHvOo)

196 Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His birth at December 26, 2021 08:36 PM (AxTbI)
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Happy to hear it!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 08:37 PM (fI9Es)

197 It was a nice one, Hrothgar.

Thank you for asking.

Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His birth at December 26, 2021 08:38 PM (AxTbI)

198 159 ... "Even with center fire cartridges, you absolutely have to keep your ammo dry or risk potential over pressure problems in the chamber."

Weasel,
I hadn't thought of that. I learn something in every gun thread. Thanks for bringing that up.

Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021 08:39 PM (7EjX1)

199 Mrs. R got me my Ruger Precision Rimfire. Sweet shooter!

Posted by: RI Red - rLD+U at December 26, 2021 08:40 PM (+5+MW)

200 Back when I was an EM in the Arty I was trained in FDC, Fire Direction Control. Specifically I was assigned as a VCO, Vertical Control Operator, when back at my Battery.

The FO, a Lt.Diogenes type, would call in a target and I would find it on the contour map, figure the difference in elevation between the target and the guns, calculate the powder charge and gun elevation required to hit it and give that data to the guns. Sometimes that required high angle fire, for some reasons.

Fifty seven years after I haven't a fucking clue how I did it.

Posted by: Javems at December 26, 2021 08:41 PM (AmoqO)

201 Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021 08:39 PM (7EjX1)
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Great! Even a little moisture on a cartridge can cause billy problems in a tight chamber such as that found in a precision rifle. It's a good practice with any firearm, really. Glad it helped!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 08:41 PM (fI9Es)

202
What if they want Harvard to be dumbed down?
Posted by: rhennigantx

It's too late to dumb it down any lower as they've already done all they can.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 26, 2021 08:42 PM (QR5m0)

203 Not about guns, sorry. I've told people here about this before but I just came across it in my archive and it is that unbelievable and yet believable, I am desperate to share it with my moron friends.

It's from a book by "Jon Stewart and the Daily Show" from 2010 which out of curiosity I browsed through in a Costco back then. It's supposed to be a "funny" history lesson.

THIS is their page on Christianity. Biggest ratfucks on the planet, these people. I think you'll see it if you look hard enough...

https://tinyurl.com/4see2pe9

Posted by: ... at December 26, 2021 08:42 PM (Sq5xa)

204
Fifty seven years after I haven't a fucking clue how I did it.
Posted by: Javems at December 26, 2021 08:41 PM (AmoqO)
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Ha! Hey - a win is a win!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 08:42 PM (fI9Es)

205 Billy = bigly.

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 08:43 PM (fI9Es)

206 Posted by: butch at December 26, 2021 08:37 PM (cHvOo)
Butch, good luck w/ your search. I've seen a few rounds at the Chantilly gun show, so gun shows might be a venue to check out. Be prepared for nosebleed level prices if you do find any, though.

Posted by: Ed L at December 26, 2021 08:43 PM (NacE+)

207 It was a nice one, Hrothgar.
Thank you for asking.
Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His birth at December 26, 2021 08:38 PM (AxTbI)

So glad to hear that.
Please give my regards to Ex-Ex!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 08:43 PM (hOUT3)

208 Fifty seven years after I haven't a fucking clue how I did it.
Posted by: Javems

Hope you don't mind I laughed.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 26, 2021 08:44 PM (QR5m0)

209 Actually...
Today is NOT Boxing Day. Boxing Day is the day *after* Christmas Sunday (The Sunday after Christmas) when that day falls on the 26th. I looked it up today.

It makes sense, because Boxing Day was the day for priests to distribute the gleanings of the poor box to the poor, and they're a little busy with Mass on that day if it's Sunday.

Posted by: GWB at December 26, 2021 08:44 PM (GTm9R)

210 THIS is their page on Christianity. Biggest ratfucks on the planet, these people. I think you'll see it if you look hard enough...
___

Not surprised at all.

But they will be, to their eternal dismay.

Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His birth at December 26, 2021 08:44 PM (AxTbI)

211 He says hi, Hrothgar.

Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His birth at December 26, 2021 08:45 PM (AxTbI)

212 I don't care to read anything from Jon Stewart, btw.

Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His birth at December 26, 2021 08:46 PM (AxTbI)

213 Not surprised at all.

But they will be, to their eternal dismay.

Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His birth at December 26, 2021 08:44 PM (AxTbI)

Some solace at least.

Posted by: ... at December 26, 2021 08:46 PM (Sq5xa)

214 I don't care to read anything from Jon Stewart, btw.

Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His birth at December 26, 2021 08:46 PM (AxTbI)

It's only really the pictures I wanted you to look at.

Posted by: ... at December 26, 2021 08:47 PM (Sq5xa)

215 He says hi, Hrothgar.
Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His birth at December 26, 2021 08:45 PM (AxTbI)

So a good day all around for me!

May the both of ye take care and be well!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 08:47 PM (hOUT3)

216 Fifty seven years after I haven't a fucking clue how I did it.

Cool story.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 26, 2021 08:47 PM (Xrfse)

217 Santa left a Zastava M57A Tokarev pistol under the tree. Took it to the range this afternoon, and boy-howdy does it live up to its flame thrower reputation! It really smashed the steel plates at 10 yards! The trigger could use some work, however.

Posted by: PacosMojo at December 26, 2021 08:48 PM (1Fv0G)

218 Sorry, ellipse, but I'm not interested.

There's enough ugliness I try to avoid as it is.

Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His birth at December 26, 2021 08:49 PM (AxTbI)

219 Posted by: PacosMojo at December 26, 2021 08:48 PM (1Fv0G)
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Nice! Congratulations!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 08:49 PM (fI9Es)

220 {{{SMH}}}
I got to spend all afternoon yesterday playing with my now almost 4 month old grandson. He smiled, giggled and made noises at me and didn't fuss once. He rewarded his parents with 8 hrs of uninterrupted sleep. Grammy for the win!

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 26, 2021 08:49 PM (Y+l9t)

221 Immediate range report:

Popped a very large trash panda that was raiding the cat food on our front porch with my suppressed Ruger SR22. Given my luck he'll bleed out under the porch and stink up the place.

Fucker...

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 26, 2021 08:50 PM (BFigT)

222 209 Actually... Today is NOT Boxing Day. Boxing Day is the day *after* Christmas Sunday (The Sunday after Christmas) when that day falls on the 26th. I looked it up today. It makes sense, because Boxing Day was the day for priests to distribute the gleanings of the poor box to the poor, and they're a little busy with Mass on that day if it's Sunday.
Posted by: GWB at December 26, 2021 08:44 PM (GTm9R)

Never know what one will learn on the gub thread! Last week, trigonometry; this week, Boxing Day and the placement thereof. Thanks, GWB.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 26, 2021 08:50 PM (v23vE)

223 Hey Sharon.

That's sweet. You are blessed.

Posted by: SMH at the wonder of His birth at December 26, 2021 08:51 PM (AxTbI)

224 As an alternative, Lee Precision makes a two cavity round ball mold. They usually sell at MidwayUSA for under 30 bucks. They are aluminum, not iron, but I've used them for round ball and regular bullets for decades. Lyman molds are great and have a lot of fans but cost three times as much and you have to buy the handle separately. I would rather spend the price difference for pure lead.
Posted by: JTB

Maybe if I shot at Cowboy tournaments... but I pay 8 cents a ball. I shot 6 cylinders of balls, and spent less than $3 on the lead. Can't see making my own balls.

Posted by: MkY at December 26, 2021 08:51 PM (cPGH3)

225 208 Fifty seven years after I haven't a fucking clue how I did it.
Posted by: Javems

Hope you don't mind I laughed.

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at December 26, 2021 08:44 PM (QR5m0)

If you don't laugh you cry. I can still read a contour map though.

Posted by: Javems at December 26, 2021 08:51 PM (AmoqO)

226 And Mrs. R got a Red Ryder BB Gun!

Posted by: RI Red - rLD+U at December 26, 2021 08:52 PM (+5+MW)

227 Never know what one will learn on the gub thread! Last week, trigonometry; this week, Boxing Day and the placement thereof. Thanks, GWB.
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 26, 2021 08:50 PM (v23vE)

Come on, there Schnorflepuppy, you knew this was AoS and that you should always expect the unexpected, da?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 08:52 PM (hOUT3)

228 Posted by: PacosMojo at December 26, 2021 08:48 PM (1Fv0G)
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Does she still have both eyeballs?

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 08:53 PM (fI9Es)

229 Fifty seven years after I haven't a fucking clue how I did it.
Posted by: Javems at December 26, 2021 08:41 PM (AmoqO)

Heh.
In shooting i keep thinking like a FO and use the worm formula. Thats not enough and this has been a great lesson. It fills in the blanks in my thinking.Thanks Weasel!
Now, as for elevation in artillery, the difference in altitude between the guns and the target is called site. The tube needs to be aimed in both direction (deflection) and elevation (quadrant). It is measured in mils. More geometry. :-)

Posted by: Diogenes at December 26, 2021 08:53 PM (axyOa)

230 Posted by: Diogenes at December 26, 2021 08:53 PM (axyOa)
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Glad you enjoyed it!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 08:54 PM (fI9Es)

231 228 Posted by: PacosMojo at December 26, 2021 08:48 PM (1Fv0G)
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Does she still have both eyeballs?
Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 08:53 PM (fI9Es)
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Oops! Meant this for RI Red!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 08:55 PM (fI9Es)

232 Will Lee dies screw into an RCBs Rock Chucker?

Posted by: Javems at December 26, 2021 08:55 PM (AmoqO)

233 I got cleaning mats for Christmas. TWO of them. Both with the 'splodey diagrams of 1911s. The funny part is they came from 2 different people... AND I already had one. Heh.

I had gotten my son a non-'splodey-diagram one to go with his "Put a thumb in it" shirt. (I couldn't find one of his gun; hard to find specific ones for anything that isn't a Glock or a 1911, it seems.) So Tekmats all around!

Santa didn't bring me a 1911 .45 5". But I know he's kinda busy and stuff. So I'll just have to buy my own.
And all the other gubs on my list.

And I keep bugging my spouse about getting off her duff and getting to the women's gun meetings here. Now that she has her CCP *and* a gun, she doesn't have an excuse, dagnabit.

Posted by: GWB at December 26, 2021 08:57 PM (GTm9R)

234 If those people had one ounce of sense, they'd be cranking out a modern, polymer Model 1903 in .32 ACP and piling up money in the bank.

Posted by: Former Gun Owner A.H. Lloyd at December 26, 2021 07:55 PM (llXky)

So instant collectors item for my original '39 model?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 26, 2021 08:58 PM (7bRMQ)

235 Posted by: GWB at December 26, 2021 08:57 PM (GTm9R)
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Nice!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 08:58 PM (fI9Es)

236 Hello! Back in the Free State of Arizona! Woot! Sorry, just got in the door, and, well, the dog ate my youtube homework.

Range bag report: I received and installed a new gun safe and, during the process, decided to pull out the range bag and see what, exactly, I had inside it. Well, yes, I had the essentials, basic scratch and dent repair, hearing protection, etc., but, what really threw me was the roughly 64 rounds of 30.06 in the bottom of the bag. Along with misc stuff that wasn't really needed.

Needless to say, range bag was cleaned out, and, unsurprisingly, lost a bit of weight. Life is good.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at December 26, 2021 08:58 PM (5pTK/)

237 Thanks for the gun thread Weasel even if half the time I have no idea what you are talking about.
Have a good night all.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 26, 2021 08:58 PM (Y+l9t)

238 Come on, there Schnorflepuppy, you knew this was AoS and that you should always expect the unexpected, da?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! at December 26, 2021 08:52 PM (hOUT3)

True story, tovarisch, especially at a TxMoMe ...

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 26, 2021 08:59 PM (v23vE)

239 Needless to say, range bag was cleaned out, and, unsurprisingly, lost a bit of weight. Life is good.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing

That bag must be huge!

Posted by: MkY at December 26, 2021 08:59 PM (cPGH3)

240 Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at December 26, 2021 08:58 PM (Y+l9t)
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Happy to do it. nite!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:00 PM (fI9Es)

241 Hiya Weasel !

Posted by: JT at December 26, 2021 09:01 PM (arJlL)

242 Hiya JT!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:01 PM (fI9Es)

243 Will Lee dies screw into an RCBs Rock Chucker?

Unless it's some specialty die, AFAIK, Lee dies are standard thread. Whatever that is, 7/8-14 or something like that.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 26, 2021 09:01 PM (nfrXX)

244 Posted by: GWB at December 26, 2021 08:57 PM (GTm9R)

GWB, you should give her at least one box of ammo to cover every excuse.

Posted by: Ed L at December 26, 2021 09:02 PM (NacE+)

245 Javerns,I loved working in the FDC as long as we were shooting cold stick. Throw in a MET and registration and i was lost.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 26, 2021 09:02 PM (axyOa)

246 Pfft, that's not a hollow point. 230 grain hollow point +p 45 acp is a hollow point!

Bonus, those 230 grain bad boys can double as an ashtray!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing (5pTK/)) at December 26, 2021 09:02 PM (5pTK/)

247 playing with my now almost 4 month old grandson
Posted by: Sharon
Awesome story.

Posted by: MikeM at December 26, 2021 09:02 PM (X+eRS)

248 Posted by: Diogenes at December 26, 2021 08:53 PM (axyOa)

If I had been smart I would have picket Arty when being commissioned. Not entirely safe. Nothing is.

Posted by: Javems at December 26, 2021 09:02 PM (AmoqO)

249 Weasel, I know a _bunch_ of folks on here shoot AR15s and their variants. There are a LOT of trigger varieties out there - many of them "drop-in".

Could we have a thread in the new year on AR triggers? Why are some flat, some curved, what's a binary and how does it work, etc.?

(I expect some folks will answer here, but it's be nice to have the info all organized into a Gun Thread.)

Posted by: GWB at December 26, 2021 09:02 PM (GTm9R)

250 Immediate range report:

Popped a very large trash panda that was raiding the cat food on our front porch with my suppressed Ruger SR22. Given my luck he'll bleed out under the porch and stink up the place.

Fucker...
Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 26, 2021 08:50 PM (BFigT)

This is why I should get a night scope for my varmint rifle

Posted by: Draki at December 26, 2021 09:02 PM (TGFWQ)

251 'Night, Sharon!

Posted by: Ed L at December 26, 2021 09:03 PM (NacE+)

252 This tomato soup is really good.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 26, 2021 09:04 PM (dNqv+)

253 Posted by: GWB at December 26, 2021 09:02 PM (GTm9R)
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Great suggestion, and I'd be happy to do it, but I'm not really that well versed on the subject. Maybe we can get a couple of contributors to help?

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:04 PM (fI9Es)

254 232 ... Javems,

I believe all the major die makers use the same threads. So Lee dies should be doable with a Rock Chucker. (All my presses are Lee, so never tested the possibility.)

Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021 09:04 PM (7EjX1)

255 playing with my now almost 4 month old grandson
Posted by: Sharon

Risk ?

Posted by: JT at December 26, 2021 09:04 PM (arJlL)

256 243 Will Lee dies screw into an RCBs Rock Chucker?

Unless it's some specialty die, AFAIK, Lee dies are standard thread. Whatever that is, 7/8-14 or something like that.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 26, 2021 09:01 PM (nfrXX)

OK, thanks. Only 30-40 dies I can find are Lee's.

Posted by: Javems at December 26, 2021 09:04 PM (AmoqO)

257 True story, tovarisch, especially at a TxMoMe ...
Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 26, 2021 08:59 PM (v23vE)

Oh yes, comrade Schnorflepuppy, in a word, "true dat"!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 09:05 PM (hOUT3)

258 Still got her eyes, Weasel. Funny thing is that the included shooting glasses were broken in the box.
Going for realism, I expect.

Posted by: RI Red - rLD+U at December 26, 2021 09:06 PM (+5+MW)

259 I've no doubt you're a competent man Weasel, but I've got to ask; did you stand on the lug wrench? Standing and bouncing will exert nearly 400 lb ft* so unless you have a ten lug truck, that should break em free.

*assuming an approx 190 lb dude.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 26, 2021 09:06 PM (MFphb)

260 I get She Equips Herself video alerts on my phone these days
Posted by: Skip at December 26, 2021 07:18 PM (2JoB

Does your wife notice?

Posted by: GWB at December 26, 2021 09:06 PM (GTm9R)

261 Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021 09:04 PM (7EjX1)

Thanks.

Posted by: Javems at December 26, 2021 09:07 PM (AmoqO)

262 Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 26, 2021 08:58 PM (7bRMQ)
Especially if the beautiful Colt "brushed blue" finish on the pre-war commercial guns is still in decent shape.

Posted by: Ed L at December 26, 2021 09:07 PM (NacE+)

263 Maybe we can get a couple of contributors to help?
Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:04 PM (fI9Es)

Doubt that I can contribute to this topic, but I sure am interested in the topic. So far, I am very pleased with my out of the box trigger assembly, but the endless pursuit of perfection has a very strong appeal!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 09:09 PM (hOUT3)

264 Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 26, 2021 09:06 PM (MFphb)
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About 12 different people tried everything!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:09 PM (fI9Es)

265 Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 09:09 PM (hOUT3)
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I made a note and will see what I can come up with.

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:10 PM (fI9Es)

266 I've no doubt you're a competent man Weasel, but I've got to ask; did you stand on the lug wrench? Standing and bouncing will exert nearly 400 lb ft* so unless you have a ten lug truck, that should break em free.

*assuming an approx 190 lb dude.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 26, 2021 09:06 PM (MFphb)

I would add that even a relatively short piece of iron pipe on the end of the lug wrench really makes a difference in this situation.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 09:12 PM (hOUT3)

267 If I had been smart I would have picket Arty when being commissioned. Not entirely safe. Nothing is.
Posted by: Javems at December 26, 2021 09:02 PM (AmoqO)

I asked for it but got MI, my second choice. But I did get to do a year detail in FA so went to the school at Sill and my first assignment was to an 8 inch Battalion. Loved it!
And yeah. Doesn't matter what we do, not always safe.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 26, 2021 09:12 PM (axyOa)

268 I would add that even a relatively short piece of iron pipe on the end of the lug wrench really makes a difference in this situation.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 09:12 PM (hOUT3)
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Tried it.

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:12 PM (fI9Es)

269 246 ...

The 230 grain hollow point bullets used to be called ashtrays or flying ashtrays. Haven't heard that term for many years. Ah, memories.

Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021 09:13 PM (7EjX1)

270 Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:10 PM (fI9Es)

Thanks, and thanks as well for the significant effort you obviously put into each Gun Thread!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 09:13 PM (hOUT3)

271 Especially if the beautiful Colt "brushed blue" finish on the pre-war commercial guns is still in decent shape.

Posted by: Ed L at December 26, 2021 09:07 PM (NacE+)

Hmmm, well I think it's "brown."

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 26, 2021 09:13 PM (7bRMQ)

272 About 12 different people tried everything!
Posted by: Weasel

Mebbe carry a pipe that will slide over the end of the wrench for extra leverage.

And mebbe some Deep Creep or a similar product.

Posted by: JT at December 26, 2021 09:14 PM (arJlL)

273 I would add that even a relatively short piece of iron pipe on the end of the lug wrench really makes a difference in this situation.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 09:12 PM (hOUT3)
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My pleasure! Thanks!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:14 PM (fI9Es)

274 Weasel, I've been stopped twice while carrying, once in Houston Texas and the second time in my home state of SC. Both times, I had my license and permit ready to hand to the officer. They were both very appreciative of that and also that I had pulled off the road into a convenient parking lot both times so the officers weren't having to stand out in traffic.

Thankfully, both times, I was able to get away from the encounter with no ticket.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at December 26, 2021 09:14 PM (R5lpX)

275 Tried it.
Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:12 PM (fI9Es)

Thank goodness for uncalibrated pneumatic wrenches

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 09:14 PM (hOUT3)

276 About 12 different people tried everything!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:09 PM (fI9Es)

Did you try using Breakfree, Weasel???

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 26, 2021 09:15 PM (7bRMQ)

277 Posted by: JT at December 26, 2021 09:14 PM (arJlL)
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I'm going to pre Deep Creep the other 3 wheels when I get home!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:15 PM (fI9Es)

278 Look at you, Weasel, setting a land speed record from VA to NC!

Posted by: bluebell at December 26, 2021 09:15 PM (wyw4S)

279 Thankfully, both times, I was able to get away from the encounter with no ticket.
Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at December 26, 2021 09:14 PM (R5lpX)

The safe haven pullover approach makes so much sense as a mere courtesy...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 09:16 PM (hOUT3)

280 Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at December 26, 2021 09:14 PM (R5lpX)
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Yep! I figure that being polite and considerate can never hurt!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:17 PM (fI9Es)

281 Thank goodness for uncalibrated pneumatic wrenches
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 09:14 PM (hOUT3)

I'm sensing a missing sarc tag.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 26, 2021 09:17 PM (MFphb)

282 Posted by: bluebell at December 26, 2021 09:15 PM (wyw4S)
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Yeah!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:17 PM (fI9Es)

283 On my automotive reclamation project, I too had a couple of stuck lug nuts. I hit them with WD-40, let them sit for a couple weeks, then balanced my T-wrench on a jack stand and pushed down with my leg to finally get them loose.

My 17yo son was scandalized at the birthing-person fornicating obscenity that I unleashed immediately upon achieving my objective. But he's met me, so he's heard the word before.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 26, 2021 09:18 PM (v23vE)

284 I'm sensing a missing sarc tag.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 26, 2021 09:17 PM (MFphb)

Sad face, I really should know better...

by now!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 09:18 PM (hOUT3)

285 Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 26, 2021 09:15 PM (7bRMQ)
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That's what I needed!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:18 PM (fI9Es)

286 And mebbe some Deep Creep or a similar product.
Posted by: JT

We've had our tire guys bang those things on so hard, it took 1" impact to break them.
Idiots. We had one place that didn't realize the "L" on the end of those lug nuts meant left hand threads... hammered on it with that impact for about 3 minutes til I pointed it out to his boss. They had to heat them.

Posted by: MkY at December 26, 2021 09:18 PM (cPGH3)

287 Mrs. Red did get me a gift bag that says, "You'll shoot your eye out!", as well as a small Christmas Ornament of
Ralphie in his bunny suit.
She was looking for an actual bunny suit to make me wear.
Didn't find one, thank goodness.

Posted by: RI Red - rLD+U at December 26, 2021 09:19 PM (+5+MW)

288 Another thing, if there is no safe haven or emergency lane to pull of, put your flashers on and wave out the window to let the officer know that you see him and are looking for a safe place to pull off.

Where I live, on some roads, you might have to drive a couple of miles to find a place to pull over.

Posted by: That Guy What Always Says Yeah Buddy TM at December 26, 2021 09:20 PM (R5lpX)

289 OK. 9:30 ish thank you time!!

Thank you!

I really appreciate you all being here every week. Happy New Year!!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:21 PM (fI9Es)

290 62 years ago for Christmas i got a K+
E Log Log Deplex Desitrig. Cost 45 cartons of sigs. I will bet 99% of those

"3 digit accuracy" was good in 1959; no micro computers then!

Posted by: an ol exJarhead at December 26, 2021 09:21 PM (aMeOY)

291 She was looking for an actual bunny suit to make me wear.
Didn't find one, thank goodness.
Posted by: RI Red - rLD+U at December 26, 2021 09:19 PM (+5+MW)
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Imma teach Mrs. Red how to use the Internet. They're out there.

Posted by: bluebell at December 26, 2021 09:21 PM (wyw4S)

292 Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 26, 2021 09:18 PM (v23vE)

Haven't yet tried the Deep Creep, but I have used PB-Blaster to reclaim a couple of instruments that were unbelievably rusty and non-functional.
I don't think WD40 is primarily a rust breaking agent!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 09:21 PM (hOUT3)

293 I've no doubt you're a competent man Weasel, but I've got to ask; did you stand on the lug wrench? Standing and bouncing will exert nearly 400 lb ft* so unless you have a ten lug truck, that should break em free.
Posted by: OneEyedJack

I had too tight lug nuts on wheels but luckily, I was home. My impact wrench, even dialed up to '11' didn't budge them - even, as you suggested, standing on the breaker bar didn't help. I ended up using a 6 ft length of black pipe over the handle of the breaker bar as a cheater. THAT did it. But wow, they were stuck on there.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 26, 2021 09:22 PM (mD/uy)

294 bluebell, you are soooooo helpful.

Posted by: RI Red - rLD+U at December 26, 2021 09:22 PM (+5+MW)

295 If I had been smart I would have picket Arty when being commissioned. Not entirely safe. Nothing is.
Posted by: Javems at December 26, 2021 09:02 PM (AmoqO)

I asked for it but got MI, my second choice. But I did get to do a year detail in FA so went to the school at Sill and my first assignment was to an 8 inch Battalion. Loved it!
And yeah. Doesn't matter what we do, not always safe.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 26, 2021 09:12 PM (axyOa)

I wouldn't wish ADA on my worst enemy. However, I'd do it all over exactly the same just to be in the presence of the troops I served with. Greatest NCOs I've ever been privileged to serve with.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at December 26, 2021 09:23 PM (IJES/)

296 Thanks, Weasel. Same to you.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 26, 2021 09:23 PM (Xrfse)

297 I have to help a fellow 'ette out, RI Red.

Posted by: bluebell at December 26, 2021 09:23 PM (wyw4S)

298 I had too tight lug nuts on wheels but luckily, I was home. My impact wrench, even dialed up to '11' didn't budge them - even, as you suggested, standing on the breaker bar didn't help. I ended up using a 6 ft length of black pipe over the handle of the breaker bar as a cheater. THAT did it. But wow, they were stuck on there.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 26, 2021 09:22 PM (mD/uy)

Yeah, everyone assumes it was rust, but it was probably that they were overtorqued. Only cure is that much torque.

Posted by: MkY at December 26, 2021 09:24 PM (cPGH3)

299 62 years ago for Christmas i got a K+E Log Log Deplex Desitrig. Cost 45 cartons of sigs. I will bet 99% of those
"3 digit accuracy" was good in 1959; no micro computers then!
Posted by: an ol exJarhead at December 26, 2021 09:21 PM (aMeOY)

I still have a double precision K&E slide rule!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 09:24 PM (hOUT3)

300 (Looks around, sees no one's here)

Yeah, SHE is very good looking, but she has an annoying voice.

(Quickly exits to ONT)

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 26, 2021 09:24 PM (7bRMQ)

301 62 years ago for Christmas i got a K + E Log Log Duplex Decitrig. Cost 45 cartons of sigs. I will bet 99% of those
"3 digit accuracy" was good in 1959; no micro computers then!
Posted by: an ol exJarhead

Model 4081-3S? Got it right here. I bet I can't do a lick of work on it anymore though.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 26, 2021 09:24 PM (mD/uy)

302 can be used to estimate distance expressed in yards or meters or cubits or whatever.

I have to give props to our esteemed thread leader for including cubits.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 26, 2021 09:25 PM (v23vE)

303 Thanks weasel, read the thread comments and content. Late to thread because had some issues w elderly relative who had made some concerning remarks.

Dementia is not a fun thing to deal with.

Posted by: whig at December 26, 2021 09:25 PM (9hXN1)

304 I ended up using a 6 ft length of black pipe over the handle of the breaker bar as a cheater. THAT did it. But wow, they were stuck on there.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 26, 2021 09:22 PM (mD/uy)

6 ft? That's getting really close to flame wrench territory.

Three conditions of rusted stuff:
Currently stuck
Broken
Melted

Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 26, 2021 09:25 PM (MFphb)

305 (Also, Weasel, what's a cubit?

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 26, 2021 09:26 PM (v23vE)

306 224 ... "Maybe if I shot at Cowboy tournaments... but I pay 8 cents a ball. I shot 6 cylinders of balls, and spent less than $3 on the lead. Can't see making my own balls."

MkY,

Oh I agree. I've used the round ball molds in the past but seldom need to these days. I've found so many round ball in the needed sizes at swap meets and as gifts that I don't need to. And as you pointed out, three bucks worth of balls will give a good long range session. But I like to have the tools to feed the hobby just in case.

Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021 09:26 PM (7EjX1)

307 My sister in law, and my brother who are "garden gnome" people, told me today, that they are seriously considering getting a gun for self protection. This is my shocked face ('O'). While they are both solid conservatives, they are the last people I would ever expect to say something like that. That is how badly Brandon and his bunch have screwed up this country.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at December 26, 2021 09:26 PM (ZEHVO)

308 Thanks for another great year of gun threads, Weasel. Happy new year to all the Horde.

Posted by: Oddbob at December 26, 2021 09:26 PM (nfrXX)

309 Weasel the canned 45's were a post war long term storage method. They were run through arsenal inspection/rebuild then canned, included all small arms up to at least M2 50 cals.

Posted by: Zack at December 26, 2021 09:26 PM (Leqwv)

310 Weasel,
Thank you for the gub thread. Haven't been here for a while, but missed it none the less.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at December 26, 2021 09:27 PM (IJES/)

311 That is how badly Brandon and his bunch have screwed up this country.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president

I fear that we ain't seen nothing yet!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 09:27 PM (hOUT3)

312 Posted by: whig at December 26, 2021 09:25 PM (9hXN1)
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Howdy whig. Nice to see you and sorry you're dealing with that.

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:28 PM (fI9Es)

313 If butch is still here, try aimsurplus for .303 priv partisan ammo. They are often the cheapest on new production ammo.

Posted by: whig at December 26, 2021 09:28 PM (9hXN1)

314 Weasel,

So glad your vacation trip was a success even of delayed. Thanks for tonight's thread. Best to you, the Mrs., and all the furry Weasels.

Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021 09:28 PM (7EjX1)

315
Posted by: Oddbob at December 26, 2021 09:26 PM (nfrXX)
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Thanks Oddbob!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:28 PM (fI9Es)

316 Now, if I were a serious fisherman, I might see making weights. Talk about overpriced lead!

Posted by: MkY at December 26, 2021 09:29 PM (cPGH3)

317 309 Weasel the canned 45's were a post war long term storage method. They were run through arsenal inspection/rebuild then canned, included all small arms up to at least M2 50 cals.

Posted by: Zack at December 26, 2021 09:26 PM (Leqwv)

Wonder what can would go for now.?

Posted by: Javems at December 26, 2021 09:30 PM (AmoqO)

318 shorturl.at/jBDGO

Not to worry, the big guy is getting his cut!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 09:30 PM (hOUT3)

319 Thx weasel.

Posted by: whig at December 26, 2021 09:30 PM (9hXN1)

320 Posted by: Zack at December 26, 2021 09:26 PM (Leqwv)
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Someone else mentioned that too. Thank you!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:30 PM (fI9Es)

321 Weasel, forgot to ask, but where (within the bounds of propriety and OPSEC) were y'all in the OBX?

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 26, 2021 09:31 PM (v23vE)

322 Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at December 26, 2021 09:27 PM (IJES/)
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Happy to see you, Bif!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:32 PM (fI9Es)

323 Posted by: JTB at December 26, 2021 09:28 PM (7EjX1)
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Appreciate that JTB. My best to the missus.

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:33 PM (fI9Es)

324 Not to worry, the big guy is getting his cut!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar (hOUT3) ~ Lie back and think of the sweet graft! ~ at December 26, 2021 09:30 PM (hOUT3)

An hour later they did it again.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 26, 2021 09:33 PM (7bRMQ)

325 Maths! Physics!

Raise you hand if you about the Money and the Hunter Problem. THE basic shooting problem taught in Introductory Physics.

Posted by: Gref at December 26, 2021 09:34 PM (AMIL/)

326 Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 26, 2021 09:31 PM (v23vE)
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Between Duck and Kitty Hawk. We usually stay farther north tho.

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:34 PM (fI9Es)

327 Seeing that stash of .45s made me thing of the 'after the crash' books by James Wesley, Rawles. Somebody will have to fight to save, then rebuild this country, and they will need tools.

Posted by: Eromero at December 26, 2021 09:35 PM (0OP+5)

328 Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 26, 2021 09:13 PM (7bRMQ)
Too bad. The pre-war Colt finishes (blue or nickel) are arguably the apex of the gunsmithing art in the US. Unfortunately, they're quite fragile and wear away quickly under hard use.
If you're willing to spend some $$, you can write or call the Colt historian's office to find out via a letter where Colt shipped the pistol. Don't forget to ask for the manufacture date. The Brits purchased practically everything Colt had in inventory in 1940-41, including over 2,000 1903s in .32 ACP. Many of these went to the SOE (Rheinhardt Heydrich's assassins used .32 ACP 1903s). If your gun was delivered to a famous/infamous someone or noteworthy organization, that will make the gun more desirable from a collecting standpoint due to provenance. Be prepared to be disappointed, since it's relatively rare for these letters to reveal a jackpot.

Posted by: Ed L at December 26, 2021 09:36 PM (NacE+)

329 Late to the thread.

Thank you weasel, for all your work on the gub thread all year round.
And thank you to the rons who honestly answer my sometimes stupid questions.

Santa did NOT bring me a new 1911. I gave him several choices, but.... alas. No gun under the tree.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 26, 2021 09:38 PM (U2p+3)

330 Whig @ 313 - Thanks. I checked them; out of stock. I like the Privi ammo.

Posted by: butch at December 26, 2021 09:38 PM (cHvOo)

331 Between Duck and Kitty Hawk. We usually stay farther north tho.
Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:34 PM (fI9Es)

Cool, thanks. I was in Corolla, a bit further north, this year, shortly before the TxMoMe. Nice place -- once the nor'easters are done, that is.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 26, 2021 09:40 PM (v23vE)

332 Late to the party. Maybe someone covered this, if not: US Army long-term storage of small arms following WW2

https://tinyurl.com/yc7u3f3f

Posted by: Gref at December 26, 2021 09:40 PM (AMIL/)

333 Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 26, 2021 09:40 PM (v23vE)
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We've been coming to the OBX at Christmas for years. No crowds and it was t-shirt weather today!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:41 PM (fI9Es)

334 Posted by: nurse ratched at December 26, 2021 09:38 PM (U2p+3)
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Hey there! Happy New Year!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:42 PM (fI9Es)

335 --
We've been coming to the OBX at Christmas for years. No crowds and it was t-shirt weather today!
Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:41 PM (fI9Es)

It was pink bunny suit weather in NH today...

Posted by: RI Red - rLD+U at December 26, 2021 09:43 PM (+5+MW)

336 Weasel, thanks for hosting, and best wishes to you and everyone for next year! See you next week.

Posted by: Ed L at December 26, 2021 09:43 PM (NacE+)

337 Cop attitudes toward drivers with guns depends a lot on where the stop is taking place. CCW permits aren't as common in urban areas in California. So if you live there, you're probably not going to have to tell an officer that you've got a gun at your hip if you get pulled over. However, the fact that you have a gun in the trunk of your car, in a locked case, as required by law when you transport it, *can* get the officer upset if he discovers it before you tell him. On the other hand, some officers will automatically confiscate your weapon whether or not you're legally transporting it. You're not going to win an argument with the officer about such actions. So you're forced to file a complaint to the local PD, who will eventually give you the weapon back. Though it might not be in usable condition any longer.

There was a thread that I recall on the CalGuns forum about this. The general thought was that if you think the officer is likely to go looking in your trunk (and he might if he knows you're licensed to have a weapon), then warn the officer beforehand if you're transporting a weapon. If you don't think the officer is likely to look, then keep your mouth shut.

Posted by: junior at December 26, 2021 09:44 PM (PTw5h)

338 Matt Christiansen: This virus is now so weak, it can't even kill Joe Biden.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 26, 2021 09:44 PM (ybIRR)

339 Posted by: Ed L at December 26, 2021 09:43 PM (NacE+)
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My pleasure. Good nite Ed L!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:44 PM (fI9Es)

340 Might buy a hellcat tomorrow.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 26, 2021 09:44 PM (ybIRR)

341 249 GWB

Installation of an AR-15 aftermarket trigger almost always improves the trigger break, reset, and overall feel. In fact, the only reason to keep the "mil-spec" trigger in place is reliability. Apparently in the not so distant past, some aftermarket triggers could produce light primer strikes, occasionally resulting in malfunctions, especially with military ammunition (hard primers). Geissele sold a lot of very expensive triggers guaranteeing both improved trigger performance along with maintaining mil-spec reliability. Times have changed. Lots of triggers now offer those attributes, and at a significantly reduced price. My personal favorite is the LaRue MBT. If you prefer 2-stage triggers, you can't beat it. And they can be had for under $100.

Posted by: PacosMojo at December 26, 2021 09:45 PM (1Fv0G)

342 We've been coming to the OBX at Christmas for years. No crowds and it was t-shirt weather today!
Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:41 PM (fI9Es

Yeah, same in Ohio yesterday and today. No White Christmas, but since I'm the schmuck who has to shovel, I'm OK with that.

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 26, 2021 09:45 PM (v23vE)

343 Be prepared to be disappointed, since it's relatively rare for these letters to reveal a jackpot.

Posted by: Ed L at December 26, 2021 09:36 PM (NacE+)

Colt website serial number checker says 1938. No other info. I thought it was a '39, that's why I bought it. Mom born in '39. Might do the letter just to see.

Posted by: OrangeEnt at December 26, 2021 09:46 PM (7bRMQ)

344 Posted by: PacosMojo at December 26, 2021 09:45 PM (1Fv0G)
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I've had good luck with Geissele triggers in a couple of ARs I have.

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:48 PM (fI9Es)

345 OK, ONT is up everyone!

Thanks again for being here, enjoy the rest of your evening , and have a safe and prosperous New Year! Hope to see you all again next Sunday!

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 09:49 PM (fI9Es)

346 Late to the show, but I just got home from work.

Boss at work gave me a Browning Buckmark RDX, green anodized, TruGlo front sight, 5" Camper barrel. Brand new in the box.

Ho! Ho! Ho!

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 26, 2021 09:51 PM (QzJWU)

347 344...

Same here. I'm not dunking of Geissele's quality, just pointing out that equally good alternatives exist, and at a significantly lower cost. CMMG, Rise Armament, the aforementioned LaRue MBT, among several other companies offer high quality triggers for under $150.

Posted by: PacosMojo at December 26, 2021 09:52 PM (1Fv0G)

348 Whig @ 313 - Thanks. I checked them; out of stock. I like the Privi ammo.

Privi Partizan M80 Ball ammo shoots considerably better out of my .308 than any M80 ammo I've tried. The M80 spec works out to about 3.5 moa, but the Prvi shoots about 1.5 moa from my 18 1/2" barreled Savage bolt action. Every other M80 ammo I've tried shoot about the spec.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at December 26, 2021 09:53 PM (ZEHVO)

349 Boss at work gave me a Browning Buckmark RDX, green anodized, TruGlo front sight, 5" Camper barrel. Brand new in the box.

Wow, congratulations!

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at December 26, 2021 09:55 PM (ZEHVO)

350 they are seriously considering getting a gun for self protection.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe
Watched a short but enjoyable video today. They interviewed a woman who sells guns, at a store. They asked her, what is the most common brand returned. The answer? Glock. Everyone suggests Glocks, or sees them in movies etc. So then people get them, and no external safety etc. Anyway, I am not making an argument either way. Just thought it was interesting. Glocks may not be a good choice for a newbie.

Posted by: MikeM at December 26, 2021 09:56 PM (X+eRS)

351 Posted by: PacosMojo at December 26, 2021 09:52 PM (1Fv0G)
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Absolutely! Lots of great alternatives.

Posted by: Weasel at December 26, 2021 10:03 PM (wFH5b)

352 Thanks again, Weasel, and best wishes for 2022 to you and yours!

Posted by: Schnorflepuppy at December 26, 2021 10:11 PM (v23vE)

353 GWB, you should give her at least one box of ammo to cover every excuse.
Posted by: Ed L at December 26, 2021 09:02 PM (NacE+)

I bought her snap caps and 100 rounds of ammo just for practice (and another 50 of carry ammo). And I have even more she can "borrow". Heck, I even bought her her own cleaning kit.

Posted by: GWB at December 26, 2021 10:11 PM (GTm9R)

354 We held the Grandpa Gun Lottery to determine which grandkid inherited which of Grandpa's guns.

The one granddaughter went away with the .44Mag. Her hubby isn't into guns. We are trying to figure out an equitable trade that puts some things in her hands that won't hurt so much.

Posted by: Igotnothing at December 26, 2021 10:21 PM (5Y7fX)

355 Went to the rocket range, not the gun range. Lost 3 of 5 to too much thrust, and off-vertical trajectories.
Sigh. At least they are little ones made from scratch.

Posted by: Igotnothing at December 26, 2021 10:24 PM (5Y7fX)

356 Late to the thread, but I did get in a partial ~~range~~ desert day today. Went with lurker Osprey. I had loaded up my .44 Remington New Army repro with 25 grains of Pyrodex, and .454 round ball. Didn't apply the caps until we got to the desert! The .454 round ball seems a little small for the bores in the chamber. Will have to try a size larger. The little straight capper I got proved to be troublesome, and I wound up applying the caps by hand. Bottom line: it worked, seemed a little underpowered, more of a whoosh than a bang. One chamber didn't fire the first time the cap went off, but it pushed the bullet ahead about a quarter inch in the cylinder. I used the rammer to push it back, and another cap fired it OK.
I need to make me a better capping tool, and I need slightly bigger bullets. I did use Bore Butter to seal the loaded chambers, and that stuff melts too readily for my liking.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 26, 2021 11:06 PM (P3gRi)

357 Further: I also brought out the little el-Cheapo FIE single action "Old West style" .22 revolver that I rehabbed a little. I made some temporary grips for it out of laminate flooring, but they work. It fired every round I loaded, and I even hit the swinging steel target a few times. I loaded .22 birdshot first, on the theory that if the cylinder timing was a little off, I would have lead spitting out all over. That worked OK, so I switched to .22 LR. Osprey and I both shot several cylinders of that, and then I tried .22 short. I had better accuracy with that! I think with .22 LR, I was over-shooting the target. So then I tried .22 BB caps, because I had some. Big mistake; brass is so short that they cock in the cylinder once fired, and jam it from turning. I did fire all six, and got it cleared, and then fired some .22 LR, which worked fine, no damage done. Osprey brought a CZ Skorpion, a CZ boltie in .22 HMR, and a Keltec P33 in .22 LR. I really liked the boltie.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 26, 2021 11:17 PM (P3gRi)

358 I had a very good Christmas present on Christmas Eve.

My house blew up and landed on me last December 18, 2020 (not recommended, trust me; a fractured pelvis, 5 broken ribs, a shattered collarbone, a broken on both sides lower jawbone, and a severe concussion/TBI with multiple brain bleeds are no fun at all). However, here I am, mostly whole; I went through things almost as bad in Desert Storm.

On Christmas Eve, my stepson came in bearing a 5-gallon bucket full of ammo that he somehow managed to extract from the wreckage of my house. That was a fine gift; we lost nearly everything else.

Posted by: jackcoke at December 26, 2021 11:18 PM (tqqDt)

359 Here in Massachusetts I have only had a new LTC (for the first time in decades) for a couple of months.
The problem I'm running into is finding handguns, I have one SW 9mm but I'm having trouble finding that next one intended for the nightstand.
Oh, I can find the model with the features I want; but every actual weapon turns out to be NOT Mass compliant when I trek down to the gun store to order.
That along with the cost of ammo and the lack of local ranges still taking in new members has slowed my progress in becoming fully capable at the level I used to be.
When I can I take a 160 mile round trip to the only open or public range near me. With Biden gas prices, it stings.

Posted by: John the River at December 27, 2021 09:06 AM (/3goP)

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