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"Science:" Francis Collins, Anthony Fauci Organized a Political Smear Campaign Against Scientists Opposed to General Lockdowns

Is this "The Science"? Because this looks a lot like The Politics.

And it's being done by people who have been government bureaucrats and not scientists for a very, very long time. One wonders if they even remember what science actually is.

The Great Barington Declaration was a statement written by three scientists and signed by nearly 60,000 scientists and medical professional. It urged
a policy of "focused protection" for those at risk from covid -- the elderly, the immunocompromised, the obese -- and lesser mitigation efforts for everyone else.

The three guys who wrote the statement were fully credentialed by the credentialling authorities of The Ruling Class:

Dr. Martin Kulldorff, professor of medicine at Harvard University, a biostatistician, and epidemiologist with expertise in detecting and monitoring infectious disease outbreaks and vaccine safety evaluations.

Dr. Sunetra Gupta, professor at Oxford University, an epidemiologist with expertise in immunology, vaccine development, and mathematical modeling of infectious diseases.

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, professor at Stanford University Medical School, a physician, epidemiologist, health economist, and public health policy expert focusing on infectious diseases and vulnerable populations.


Because they could not be attacked on credentials, or on science, they had to be smeared politically.

Francis Collins and Anthony Fauci organized that political smear campaign, FOIA'd emails now reveal.

Behold The Science in action.


Jay Bhattacharya

@DrJBhattacharya


So now I know what it feels like to be the subject of a propaganda attack by my own government. Discussion and engagement would have been a better path.

baringtondeclarationsmear.jpg

A key political claim -- not a scientific one, of course -- was the claim that they Barington scientists' plan for covid was to "let it rip," ignoring the facts that they called for focused protection (that is, lockdowns, quarantines) of the most vulnerable and mitigation efforts for everyone else. They just opposed the Fauci/Collins plan of lockdowns for everyone, including children and young people for whom covid posed next to no threat at all.

By the way, when this political smear campaign was executed, it was well known that covid posed next-to-no-threat to the young -- that was well-established by May 2020. This campaign unfolded in October 2020.

But "The Science" trumps actual small-s science.

And "The Science" is always settled -- by the Science Priests.

And no dissent is allowed, whether about Global Warming, the efficacy of lockdowns, the justification for vaccine mandates, the danger of dietary fat, or anything else the Science Priests decree.

'There needs to be a quick and devastating take down': Emails show how Fauci and head of NIH worked to discredit three experts who penned the Great Barrington Declaration which called for an end to lockdowns

The emails show Fauci and NIH Director Francis Collins attempting to coordinate a 'devastating takedown' of the Great Barrington Declaration (GBD)

AIER, a libertarian think tank, sponsored the GBD, which largely abandons lockdowns in favor of herd immunity strategy that allows life to return to normal

In an October 8 email from Collins to Fauci, the head of the NIH calls the GBD the work of 'three fringe epidemiologists' that 'seems to be getting a lot of attention'

Collins adds that 'there needs to be a quick and devastating published takedown of its premises. I don't see anything like that online yet - is it underway?'

Fauci later sends Collins multiple op-eds trashing the GBD in Wired and The Nation Magazine

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya - one of the authors and a DailyMail.com contributor - tweeted that he was the subject of a propaganda attack by his own government

This thread by Dr. Jay Bhattacharya documents the lies coordinated by Fauci and Collins, and Collins' fresh lies on the Sunday shows this week, justifying his anti-science political smear operations.

See also this thread of more emails.

One of the claim made were that these three eminent scientists were "fringe epidemiologists."

By the way, Collins is not an epidemiologist of any kind -- he's a geneticist. By the credential games these assholes play when it suits him, he should recuse himself from the debate entirely.

But, as with all journalists and leftists: every journalist and every leftist with an opinion, which is all of them, are self-credentialing.


I was also puzzled by the mischaracterization of the GBD as a "herd immunity strategy". Biologically the epidemic ends when a sufficient number of people have immunity, either through COVID recovery or vax. Lockdown, let-it-rip, & the GBD all lead to that. (3/n)

As @MartinKulldorff has said, it makes as much sense to say "herd immunity strategy" as it does to say "gravity strategy" for landing an airplane. The only question is how to land safely, not whether gravity applies. (4/n)

So the question is how to get through this terrible pandemic with the least harm, where the harms considered include all of public health, not just COVID. The GBD & focused protection of the vulnerable is a middle ground between lockdown & let-it-rip.(5/n)

Lockdowners like Collins & Fauci presumably think that focused protection of vulnerable is impossible. They could have engaged honestly in a discussion about it, but would have found that public health is fundamentally about focused protection.

We can never debate these issues like global warming -- they're always "too important" for debate and dissent, so we proceed directly to suppression, censorship, propaganda and punishment of dissenters.

And the left's list of issues that are "too important" to allow discussion about is very long, and growing at an expodential (as Brandon would say) rate.

On Jimmy Dore's show, Max Blumenthal -- yes, they are both on the far leftwing, but they hate the "shitlibs" of the neoliberal/neocon uniparty as much as we do -- says that part of this effort, which I don't know if Collins and Fauci were directly responsible for, consisted of telling the left that the Great Barrington Declaration was a Koch operation, just because one speech was given by these guys at AEIR, which does get some money from Koch.

Koch is a boogeyman on the left, so this was a very effective propaganda tactic for poisoning the left against considering the arguments made in the Great Barrington Declaration.

I linked this piece from Kulldorff and Battacharya before, How Fauci Fooled America, from November 1. Worth reading if you missed it.

Don't forget: Francis Collins is a very, very serious person. A very respected epidemiologist scientist bureaucrat.

Posted by: Ace at 01:31 PM




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1 sponge

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, John Ford goes to war at December 20, 2021 01:30 PM (LvTSG)

2 "Follow the science, question established norms, and be willing to disprove our own hypotheses. Also, use the media ecosystem to destroy those who think differently from you."
-Sir Isaac Newton

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, John Ford goes to war at December 20, 2021 01:31 PM (LvTSG)

3 First!!?

Posted by: Iris at December 20, 2021 01:31 PM (DibdT)

4 First!!!

Posted by: Greyman27 at December 20, 2021 01:31 PM (RKLPC)

5 Dammit.

Posted by: Greyman27 at December 20, 2021 01:31 PM (RKLPC)

6 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at December 20, 2021 01:32 PM (j39Fc)

7 Wasn't Galileo a fringe astronomer at one point?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, John Ford goes to war at December 20, 2021 01:32 PM (LvTSG)

8 I'm having one of those days and posted to the wrong thread.

reposting...

I had more points than this but I had to edit because the minx software doesn't like the list of points. Anyway:

3) They lied to us about: ACE inhibitors, Aspirin, Antihistamines, and Azithromycin, and also when they said Remdesivir was an actual useful treatment. Chances are the people who said they're lying about HCQ, IVM, and the Vaccines are right as well.

We need some actual vaccines that aren't developed by sociopaths who killed people by witholding treatment.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Cryptid Anarchist at December 20, 2021 01:32 PM (taEBS)

9 >>And "The Science" is always settled -- by the Science Priests.


Scumbags.
Who in the MSM and social media helped them?

Posted by: Lizzy at December 20, 2021 01:33 PM (URNdm)

10 I AM THE SCIENCE!

Posted by: Dredd Fauchi at December 20, 2021 01:33 PM (Ojki1)

11 Hi ace! Hi everbody! So sad about our Tami.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 20, 2021 01:33 PM (Vxu+H)

12 I miss the days of 'First, do no harm'

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at December 20, 2021 01:34 PM (V6f9+)

13 Every day I can't wait until Fauci burns in Hell

Posted by: Skip's Phone at December 20, 2021 01:34 PM (dUKrz)

14 12 I miss the days of 'First, do no harm'
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at December 20, 2021 01:34 PM (V6f9+)

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Too long to throw in the first comment of a thread. You're bound to lose your "first" status if you take that kind of time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, John Ford goes to war at December 20, 2021 01:34 PM (LvTSG)

15 How are we ever going to get "Science" back? If and when this COVID plandemic ever ends, you know they will go full bore on Climate Change and all those policies. How do we stop this idiocy??

Posted by: Iris at December 20, 2021 01:35 PM (DibdT)

16 I would not have thought that senior federal bureaucrats who haven't seen the inside of a lab for 40 years and happily lived in DC (which is well known for deep scientific thought and study) the entire time would be more interested in politics than science. Odd. Truly odd.

Posted by: Match Checksout at December 20, 2021 01:36 PM (dYe5S)

17 Lighten up, Francis (Collins).

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 20, 2021 01:36 PM (J7wri)

18 It isn't just at the top. Without discussing the heavy incentives offered to hospitals and doctors, there can be no honest reckoning with the holocaust that the Covid hoax has inflicted on the world.

https://aapsonline.org/bidens-bounty-on-your-life-
hospitals-incentive-payments-for-covid-19/

This was partly driven by the top, but it would not have been possible without wholesale betrayal by the media, lawyers, and doctors.

Posted by: trev006 at December 20, 2021 01:36 PM (Eqkqm)

19 On a prior thread I talked about links to a running list of collapsed athletes and others who were jab damaged or killed.

The three doctors here named...who wrote the Great Barrington Declaration...

if you go to their tw@tter feeds usually you will find those who follow them posting these lists

Posted by: kallistx at December 20, 2021 01:36 PM (DJFLF)

20 Stephen L. Miller
@redsteeze
1h
Lol "must report"

Mayor Muriel Bowser
@MayorBowser
1h
After using a rapid at-home test, residents must report their results to DC Health at http://coronavirus.dc.gov/overthecounter

Posted by: m at December 20, 2021 01:36 PM (PfCJx)

21 Thing FSM, I disagree. We do not need vaccines against COVID-21. The ones for COVID-19 didn't work all that well. It's almost like coronaviruses in general are fairly quick to mutate and "evade" vaccines.

Posted by: Catherine--who generally doesn't curse. at December 20, 2021 01:36 PM (ZSsrh)

22 F*ck Fauci & Francis

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at December 20, 2021 01:36 PM (TNyrE)

23 Tami is gone? How can that be?

What a horrible start to Christmas week.

Posted by: creeper at December 20, 2021 01:36 PM (cTCuP)

24 And now that I stopped and read the comment...

Do you think this is the first or only smear campaign Fauci ran? There's a reason people think HCQ is aquarium cleaner and IVM is Horse Paste. That was the coordinated propaganda.

(Hey, guys, do wafarin and nitroglycerine... it'll be a blast!)

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Cryptid Anarchist at December 20, 2021 01:37 PM (taEBS)

25 I am seriously disappointed that doctors have not torn Fauci the Fraud to shreds. This explains why. Fauci uses the Tony Soprano method of Public Discourse.

Maybe now that this has been exposed, more doctors will step forward and confront this fraud and his thug tactics.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 20, 2021 01:37 PM (J7wri)

26 Dr. Fauci....

The bad guy from the Dallas Buyer's Club? That guy?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, John Ford goes to war at December 20, 2021 01:37 PM (LvTSG)

27 >>Mayor Muriel Bowser
@MayorBowser
1h
After using a rapid at-home test, residents must report their results to DC Health at http://coronavirus.dc.gov/overthecounter


Send ALL Anal Swabs to Me. Muriel Bowser.
Care of DC Health.

Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 01:38 PM (tmnMR)

28 How do we stop this idiocy??
Posted by: Iris at December 20, 2021 01:35 PM (DibdT)

If the climate scientists and their political masters are in the pocket of China, physically eliminating the entire parasite class would cause national rejuvenation. This isn't fanciful imagination, but the obvious truth.

Posted by: trev006 at December 20, 2021 01:38 PM (Eqkqm)

29 El Kabong should beat Collin's into a coma with his own guitar.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 20, 2021 01:38 PM (ij5RJ)

30 Dr. Fauci....

The bad guy from the Dallas Buyer's Club? That guy?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, John Ford goes to war at December 20, 2021 01:37 PM (LvTSG)

That was just, like, a movie man.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at December 20, 2021 01:38 PM (V6f9+)

31 Fringe epidemiologists are those who do not work for Fauci or Collins and further their power grab.


What's Francis's ranking on Spotify today?

Posted by: huerfano at December 20, 2021 01:38 PM (MzKgG)

32 Like pudding through a funnel, so are the days of our lives.

Posted by: Ana Navarro at December 20, 2021 01:38 PM (cWgVf)

33 Do you think this is the first or only smear campaign Fauci ran?

I don't know about smear campaigns...however I do know that serious AIDS activists from the early days have known he was a Fraud by his efforts to squelch effective treatments in favor of AZT.

because of his financial interest in that drug

Posted by: kallistx at December 20, 2021 01:38 PM (DJFLF)

34 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 01:38 PM (Zz0t1)

35 Stan's minions never rest. I wonder if, just for one tiny moment, they ever consider the awful payday that awaits them?

Posted by: jmel at December 20, 2021 01:39 PM (bVhJi)

36 After using a rapid at-home test, residents must report their results to DC Health at http://coronavirus.dc.gov/overthecounter

I lost them in a lake. Whaddya going to do about it?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM Guy at December 20, 2021 01:39 PM (ZSK0i)

37 >>Mayor Muriel Bowser
@MayorBowser
1h
After using a rapid at-home test, residents must report their results to DC Health at http://coronavirus.dc.gov/overthecounter





Pound.

Sand.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 20, 2021 01:39 PM (J7wri)

38 Ha! There's such a study called "Political Science!"

There has always been Political Science--but it's still SCIENCE!

Posted by: Modern Sophist at December 20, 2021 01:39 PM (XHhHI)

39 30 The bad guy from the Dallas Buyer's Club? That guy?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, John Ford goes to war at December 20, 2021 01:37 PM (LvTSG)

That was just, like, a movie man.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at December 20, 2021 01:38 PM (V6f9+)

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And Matthew McConaughey thanked God in his acceptance speech, which makes it a bad movie now. Ungood.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, John Ford goes to war at December 20, 2021 01:39 PM (LvTSG)

40 Asked this morning: "Is there a nation on this planet not having an insane over reaction to the Wuhan flu?" No? Stop the planet here, I'd like to get off now.

Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at December 20, 2021 01:39 PM (3AD8C)

41 "Dr" Fauci practices Political Science. He is a manager. He has not done anything actually medically related either in research or with patients in decades.

Posted by: Cosda at December 20, 2021 01:39 PM (teq5L)

42 Democrat Brad Woodhouse bet Mercedes and Matt Schlapp a steak dinner today that Manchin will pass BBB sometime next year. He said he was positive this would happen.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 20, 2021 01:40 PM (NpAcC)

43 Too long to throw in the first comment of a thread. You're bound to lose your "first" status if you take that kind of time.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, John Ford goes to war at December 20, 2021 01:34 PM (LvTSG)

I already knew I wasn't in Sponge territory and I didn't feel like talking about boobs since the news of Tami's death is still raw.

I'll try to be more shallow, soon.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at December 20, 2021 01:40 PM (V6f9+)

44 Looks like the NFL found the way to deal with covid. Stop testing.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 20, 2021 01:40 PM (eA1RV)

45 The only cure :

MOAR SMOD

Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 01:40 PM (tmnMR)

46
I love that Somewhere Over the Rainbow thing. Kinda reminds me of John Kerry airlifting James Taylor into France.

Our scientific establishment is like a really lame, faggy version of Floyd Ferris.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 20, 2021 01:40 PM (2ABQr)

47 >>Looks like the NFL found the way to deal with covid. Stop testing.


If only Felonies were this easy to deal with!

Posted by: Roger Goodell at December 20, 2021 01:41 PM (tmnMR)

48 Mayor Muriel Bowser
@MayorBowser
1h
After using a rapid at-home test, residents must report their results to DC Health at http://coronavirus.dc.gov/overthecounter

LOL.... Sure

Posted by: It's me donna at December 20, 2021 01:41 PM (TdaKq)

49 Collins: "Hundreds of thousands of people would have died if we had followed that strategy."


*facepalm*

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 20, 2021 01:41 PM (yQpMk)

50 44 Looks like the NFL found the way to deal with covid. Stop testing.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 20, 2021 01:40 PM (eA1RV)

========

How are we to know that people are dying?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, John Ford goes to war at December 20, 2021 01:41 PM (LvTSG)

51 Fauci killed AIDS orphans. Yes, killed them. He should be parked in a cell until the day he dies. He's the one guy in American history I think deserves the label of "as bad as the Nazis."

Posted by: BurtTC at December 20, 2021 01:42 PM (c8sog)

52 Just got on and saw the sidebar. Damn.. how very sad. RIP Tami.

Posted by: Jewells45 deplorablethug#FJB at December 20, 2021 01:42 PM (nxdel)

53 So, Kurt threw down a UWV study, funded by THE GOVERNMENT, that said there was up to a 125% increase in deaths in the Amish community in one month during 2021. They provide no details on who died and from what, just that the death count was up.

When you are a community that as 3 or 4 people die, then suddenly its 12.......OMG!!!!!!! OVER 100% INCREASE!!!!!!


Fuck off, all of your government funded 'studies.'

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 01:42 PM (Zz0t1)

54 44 Looks like the NFL found the way to deal with covid. Stop testing.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 20, 2021 01:40 PM (eA1RV)

Kyrie Irving of the NBA was a bad boy who had to be punished for not jabbing hisself. Guess what? He's now allowed to play anywhere in the country other than NYC and Toronto.

Posted by: kallistx at December 20, 2021 01:42 PM (DJFLF)

55 Remember, Fauci and Collins are Leftist bureaucrats first. Everything else including truthful debate comes second. They are antithetical to the very principles of individual liberty, which they believe foil their attempt at big government authoritarianism.

Nobody elected the NOH or CDC to anything. But yet here they are locking you in your home, forcing you to take vaccines and masking your kids.

I hope playing politics like it's a team sport suits Democrats voters as they trample every ounce of freedom you have left.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 20, 2021 01:42 PM (ij5RJ)

56 you know, a few months back, someone somewhere made the point that the USA and other normal countries had a plan on file on what to do with the next big sickness/pandemic. You don't shut down, that's silly, you can't borrow 2 years of money to operate while people order take out. You do smaller social distancing with vulnerable populations. But in order "TO GET TRUMP", they changed the plan.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 20, 2021 01:43 PM (ZZK0E)

57 I am seriously disappointed that doctors have not torn Fauci the Fraud to shreds. This explains why. Fauci uses the Tony Soprano method of Public Discourse.

Maybe now that this has been exposed, more doctors will step forward and confront this fraud and his thug tactics.
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 20, 2021 01:37 PM (J7wri)

Some have. Sadly, so many doctors are now beholden to their employers (hospitals). This was by design and a result of ObamaCare.

Where are the brave doctors who will take a stand?

Standing right beside all those upright, noble FBI whistleblowers.

Posted by: Deep State 910 at December 20, 2021 01:43 PM (zvYHx)

58 Wasn't Galileo a fringe astronomer at one point?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, John Ford goes to war at December 20, 2021 01:32 PM (LvTSG)

Not really. His observations of Jupiter's moons and later of the phases of Venus were celebrated by the scientific community as well as the Church.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 20, 2021 01:43 PM (wmDcS)

59 And Matthew McConaughey thanked God in his acceptance speech, which makes it a bad movie now. Ungood.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, John Ford goes to war at December 20, 2021 01:39 PM (LvTSG)

I have my issues with Matt but he's a cut above most Hollywood types. He is also pretty hands-on with companies he is a spokesman for, like Wild Turkey.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at December 20, 2021 01:43 PM (V6f9+)

60 Asked this morning: "Is there a nation on this planet not having an insane over reaction to the Wuhan flu?" No? Stop the planet here, I'd like to get off now.
Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at December 20, 2021

***
South Africa, I think. Insane on other levels, but they're dumping contact tracing and quarantines. See Alex Berenson's substack.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 20, 2021 01:43 PM (txdEq)

61 I love that Somewhere Over the Rainbow thing. Kinda reminds me of John Kerry airlifting James Taylor into France.

At the risk of seeming to hate women, its the young women cadre in the White House that keep coming up with this idiotic crap. They think its powerful and moving, like the worship committee in church that insists we all learn this new song they liked on the radio. They think it will be persuasive and emotionally compelling because it made them cry when they thought of it.

These are the ones who came up with Onesie cocoa Boy, The Obama songs, that long fingernailed freak, and the rest of the cringey stuff that the Obama and Biden white house keeps putting out.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 01:43 PM (KZzsI)

62 Looks like the NFL found the way to deal with covid. Stop testing.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 20, 2021 01:40 PM (eA1RV)

Yes. But they're only cutting tested for the VACCINATED, who are 95% of their positive tests. They're still going to test the unvaxxed 100 times a week.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 01:43 PM (Zz0t1)

63 yeah, a lot of people need a tire fire pyre.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 20, 2021 01:44 PM (VwHCD)

64 Connie Francis > Francis Collins.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 20, 2021 01:44 PM (Vxu+H)

65 >>>How are we ever going to get "Science" back?

We don't, at least not for a long time. Science has been hijacked by the political left the same as it was hijacked by the Catholic Church back in the Middle Ages. Heresy must be punished, with inquisitions and excommunication if necessary.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 20, 2021 01:44 PM (HmZuC)

66 53 So, Kurt threw down a UWV study, funded by THE GOVERNMENT, that said there was up to a 125% increase in deaths in the Amish community in one month during 2021. They provide no details on who died and from what, just that the death c

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another problem with the big "Get Trump" swamp effort was to create a non-distinction between died with covid and "died from covid" so much so that the normal people out there don't even trust the death count.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 20, 2021 01:44 PM (ZZK0E)

67 Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 01:42 PM (Zz0t1)

yeah well I countered with actual stats from Demorat PA Dept of Health that shows no anomalies in Lancaster County, where the unvaxxed Amish reside.

Posted by: kallistx at December 20, 2021 01:44 PM (DJFLF)

68 Do you think this is the first or only smear campaign Fauci ran? There's a reason people think HCQ is aquarium cleaner and IVM is Horse Paste. That was the coordinated propaganda.
==
See the BMJ response after Facebook started calling their report on data falsification on vacc misinformation. It is an organized multiplatform dis information campaign being waged by the government directly and through proxies. You may get called a conspiracy theorist if you call it the Great Reset. But it is not a mere coincidence either.

Posted by: But I'm the nut at December 20, 2021 01:44 PM (GqgXT)

69 But I'm advancing the cause of science.

Posted by: Dr. Josef Mengele at December 20, 2021 01:44 PM (jYQlA)

70 Le Science, C'est moi!!
- King Fauci the 1st

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at December 20, 2021 01:44 PM (OalnH)

71 Every day I can't wait until Fauci burns in Hell
Posted by: Skip's Phone at December 20, 2021 01:34 PM (dUKrz)

I'm not picky. I'll take burning in an outhouse or even a 1973 Ford Pinto.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 20, 2021 01:44 PM (wAnMi)

72 >>>How are we ever going to get "Science" back?

more concerned with getting "freedom" back, plus the "economy back" and "inflation down"

Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 20, 2021 01:45 PM (ZZK0E)

73 "Koch is a boogeyman on the left, so this was a very effective propaganda tactic for poisoning the left against considering the arguments made in the Great Barrington Declaration."

Yup, other than one Dr. Jay appearance on Ingraham, I think that Collins' appearance on Fox News Sunday was the first time that the general public could have possibly heard of the Great Barrington Declaration. Relegate all badthink to the FOX News ghetto, and it's as good as memory-holed.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 20, 2021 01:45 PM (hgzYo)

74
Kyrie Irving of the NBA was a bad boy who had to be punished for not jabbing hisself. Guess what? He's now allowed to play anywhere in the country other than NYC and Toronto.
Posted by: kallistx at December 20, 2021 01:42 PM (DJFLF)


He's already in "covid protocol."

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 01:45 PM (Zz0t1)

75 I have my issues with Matt but he's a cut above most Hollywood types. He is also pretty hands-on with companies he is a spokesman for, like Wild Turkey.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at December 20, 2021 01:43 PM (V6f9+)


He has some residual Texan in him.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 20, 2021 01:45 PM (yQpMk)

76 Wasn't Galileo a fringe astronomer at one point?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,


Galileo Figaro?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 20, 2021 01:46 PM (uXonU)

77 Wreckers and saboteurs must be destroyed, comrade.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at December 20, 2021 01:46 PM (GbPPJ)

78 Collins's email looks more like a true-believer email than a "Let's go get these guys" email.

He called for a "devasting takedown of" their mistaken "premises".

This is well within the range of Scientific debate, I would say.

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2021 01:46 PM (XHhHI)

79
Every day I can't wait until Fauci burns in Hell
Posted by: Skip's Phone at December 20, 2021 01:34 PM (dUKrz)

That's all well and good, but not before he burns in a series of guttering braziers lining the basalt walls of the throne room in my Citadel of Pain.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 20, 2021 01:46 PM (2ABQr)

80 Where are the brave doctors who will take a stand?

Dr. Mary Bowden, Texas

Dr. Aaron Kheriaty, California

Dr. Scott Jensen, Minnesota.

Is Sen Ron Johnson an MD? Because he is taking a stand.

There are SO many other doctors worldwide who are publicly combating this OP...they are the TRUE front line heroes.

oh I forgot Dr. Simone Gold...

Posted by: kallistx at December 20, 2021 01:46 PM (DJFLF)

81 Connie Francis > Francis Collins.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 20, 2021

***
"Who's Sorry Now?"
( -- Connie Francis to whomever Francis Collins married)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 20, 2021 01:46 PM (txdEq)

82 So, Kurt threw down a UWV study, funded by THE GOVERNMENT, that said there was up to a 125% increase in deaths in the Amish community in one month during 2021.
==
Cross reference with Buggy Crashes. It would not take many deaths in that small a community to cause a MONTH spike. One good accident would do it. . .

Posted by: But I'm the nut at December 20, 2021 01:46 PM (GqgXT)

83 The three guys who wrote the statement were fully credentialed by the credentialling authorities of The Ruling Class:

you sound like someone who isn't working from the most recent version of the newspeak dictionary.

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at December 20, 2021 01:46 PM (sGtp+)

84 40-

Sweden.

You never hear about it because of course all the Swedes are dead... yeah, I'm just f'n with ya, they're fine. Better than most of the world with all this nonsense.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 20, 2021 01:46 PM (c8sog)

85 Galileo Figaro?
Posted by: rickb223 at December 20, 2021 01:46 PM (uXonU)
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Magnifico!

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2021 01:46 PM (XHhHI)

86 Due to covid, the Browns equipment manager will be the starting QB this week.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 20, 2021 01:46 PM (eA1RV)

87 Basically all you need to know is that Fauci _always_ has a smile or a smirk on his face despite the fact that he's lost about 800,000 people on his watch in the United States alone, and 5.35 million worldwide.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Cryptid Anarchist at December 20, 2021 01:46 PM (taEBS)

88 >>How are we ever going to get "Science" back?


Eliminate Government Grants and Funding.

Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 01:46 PM (tmnMR)

89
yeah well I countered with actual stats from Demorat PA Dept of Health that shows no anomalies in Lancaster County, where the unvaxxed Amish reside.
Posted by: kallistx at December 20, 2021 01:44 PM (DJFLF)


Exactly......Government funded anything has proven that it will lie to get what they want.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 01:46 PM (Zz0t1)

90 He has some residual Texan in him.
Posted by: G'rump928(c)


Montrose.
(Texans will know)

Posted by: rickb223 at December 20, 2021 01:47 PM (uXonU)

91 Didn't the Koch's turn out to be (shocker) lefty globalist corporatist fucktards?

Posted by: ... at December 20, 2021 01:47 PM (1gBxb)

92 91 Didn't the Koch's turn out to be (shocker) lefty globalist corporatist fucktards?
Posted by: ... at December 20, 2021 01:47 PM (1gBxb)

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Rich libertarians, so...pretty much.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, John Ford goes to war at December 20, 2021 01:47 PM (LvTSG)

93 Science got punched in the mouth by Politics, its lunch money stolen and now it sleeps in Politics' footlocker wearing a gimp suit and ball-gag.
Posted by: Eat The Eloi at December 20, 2021 01:46 PM (V3EEC)
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Science is about methodology. Politics is about power.

Guess which one punches harder?

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2021 01:47 PM (XHhHI)

94 There are actually quite a few doctors worldwide taking a stand but they are silenced, ignored, suppressed and attacked. They lose their jobs, they lose grant requests, they are shunned and banned from social media, etc.

This is "science" to modern leftists.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 01:47 PM (KZzsI)

95 "57 I am seriously disappointed that doctors have not torn Fauci the Fraud to shreds. "

I am seriously disappointed they haven't lit Fauci on fire and then, after a few minutes, or ten, thrown him in a wood chipper.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 20, 2021 01:47 PM (ij5RJ)

96 Psychopaths should be part of Fauci's crews credentials.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 20, 2021 01:47 PM (I5hoQ)

97 >>Cross reference with Buggy Crashes. It would not take many deaths in that small a community to cause a MONTH spike. One good accident would do it. . .


One good bush fire and the whole Colony goes up!

Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 01:47 PM (tmnMR)

98 Anyone who screams "THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED!" has no clue what science is. And I say this as someone with no medical training.

Posted by: NR Pax at December 20, 2021 01:48 PM (4olE8)

99 People have to go on with their lives. You can't expect them to change ingrained behaviors.

And is it really government's job to protect people from themselves? I understand gov.'s responsibility to provide support when they are sick, and give information and resources so they are informed, but gov. has no role in closing businesses and interfering with people sopcializing.

(oh wait, we are talking about AIDS in the 80s, aren't we?)

Posted by: Anthony ("Quilp") Fauci at December 20, 2021 01:48 PM (InMvd)

100 Techno Fog
@Techno_Fog
This is significant.
Special Counsel John Durham:

The 2016 Hillary Clinton Presidential Campaign and its employees are currently subject to "matters" before the Special Counsel.

https://tinyurl.com/bde4yh6r

Posted by: redridinghood at December 20, 2021 01:48 PM (NpAcC)

101 The big problem with HCQ and IVM is that they are out of patent, widely produced by various companies, are plentiful and therefore cheap, and effective.
So, if you are Pfizer, Moderna or J and J pushing shots that will make you tens of billions of dollars, you have to shut them down.
Which they did do, at least in the US.
I tried to buy some yesterday. No joy.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 20, 2021 01:48 PM (jTmQV)

102 Hey. I resemble that remark!

Posted by: 1973 Ford Pinto at December 20, 2021 01:48 PM (jYQlA)

103 Where is qdpsteve? Haven't seen him post in a while.

Posted by: I mean at December 20, 2021 01:48 PM (AohgV)

104 There are SO many other doctors worldwide who are publicly combating this OP...they are the TRUE front line heroes.

oh I forgot Dr. Simone Gold...
Posted by: kallistx at December 20, 2021 01:46 PM (DJFLF)

Oh. I agree. Some.

They're still fighting an uphill battle with their hospital administrations.

Posted by: Deep State 910 at December 20, 2021 01:48 PM (zvYHx)

105 71 Every day I can't wait until Fauci burns in Hell
Posted by: Skip's Phone at December 20, 2021 01:34 PM (dUKrz)

I'm not picky. I'll take burning in an outhouse or even a 1973 Ford Pinto.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 20, 2021 01:44 PM (wAnMi)

Stake, wood, public square.

Posted by: creeper at December 20, 2021 01:48 PM (cTCuP)

106 Every courageous MD on the list I posted is under attack from their employer, whether academic or corporate. Scott Jensen even has to defend against government harassment.

Posted by: kallistx at December 20, 2021 01:48 PM (DJFLF)

107 That's all well and good, but not before he burns in a series of guttering braziers lining the basalt walls of the throne room in my Citadel of Pain.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

That's hot!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 20, 2021 01:48 PM (Vxu+H)

108 Scott adams and possibly ppl like me pointed out that the actual best response is unknown because leadership doesn't matter. the virus is virulent. what can you do except see what happens. Real leadership is weighing risks and benefits. we are mandating the end of death with zero benefits...negative benefits since we destroyed the economy, the dollar, our kids, education, and ppl's mental health.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 20, 2021 01:48 PM (ZZK0E)

109 Science got punched in the mouth by Politics and its lunch money stolen. Now Science sleeps in Politics' footlocker wearing a gimp suit and ball-gag.

Posted by: Eat the Eloi at December 20, 2021 01:48 PM (BvNzB)

110 BAD MOTOR SCOOTER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk52nGxF-jc

Posted by: MONTROSE (for Ace) at December 20, 2021 01:48 PM (tmnMR)

111
We have some questions for 'Dr' Fauci.

Posted by: Nuremberg Tribunal, 2022 at December 20, 2021 01:48 PM (dQvv7)

112 100 Techno Fog
@Techno_Fog
This is significant.
Special Counsel John Durham:
The 2016 Hillary Clinton Presidential Campaign and its employees are currently subject to "matters" before the Special Counsel.
https://tinyurl.com/bde4yh6r
Posted by: redridinghood at December 20, 2021 01:48 PM (NpAcC

=========

*crosses fingers*
*does not hold breath*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, John Ford goes to war at December 20, 2021 01:48 PM (LvTSG)

113
Fauci and Collins no doubt offered "high fives" to the "climate crisis" modeling frauds -- "Thanks for the pointers, boys!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 20, 2021 01:49 PM (q3P4d)

114
Basically all you need to know is that Fauci _always_ has a smile or a smirk on his face despite the fact that he's lost about 800,000 people on his watch in the United States alone, and 5.35 million worldwide.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Cryptid Anarchist at December 20, 2021 01:46 PM (taEBS)

Oh definitely - he appears on television *incessantly,* ostensibly to discuss the defining crisis of our time and his draconian edicts to address it. And every time, he's just barely suppressing a yuuuuge, luxurious Cheshire-cat grin.

Tells you all you need to know about him.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 20, 2021 01:49 PM (2ABQr)

115 When people say "the science is settled", I think they mean that Jimmy Kimmel made a joke

Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 20, 2021 01:49 PM (ZZK0E)

116 >>After using a rapid at-home test, residents must report their results to DC Health at http://coronavirus.dc.gov/overthecounter


W
T
F

Posted by: Lizzy at December 20, 2021 01:50 PM (URNdm)

117 115 When people say "the science is settled", I think they mean that Jimmy Kimmel made a joke
Posted by: Tim Riggins at December 20, 2021 01:49 PM (ZZK0E)

=======

"Joke?"
-Jimmy Kimmel

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, John Ford goes to war at December 20, 2021 01:50 PM (LvTSG)

118 The big problem with HCQ and IVM is that they are out of patent, widely produced by various companies, are plentiful and therefore cheap, and effective.
So, if you are Pfizer, Moderna or J and J pushing shots that will make you tens of billions of dollars, you have to shut them down.
Which they did do, at least in the US.
I tried to buy some yesterday. No joy.
Posted by: gourmand du jour


The big problem is if ANY alternatives exists, the emergency use authorization goes away. When it does, no more shots.

No more shots = no more $$$ billions.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 20, 2021 01:50 PM (uXonU)

119
There are SO many other doctors worldwide who are publicly combating this OP...they are the TRUE front line heroes.

oh I forgot Dr. Simone Gold...
Posted by: kallistx at December 20, 2021 01:46 PM (DJFLF)


Dr. Peter McCullough - Dallas, TX

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 01:50 PM (Zz0t1)

120 BAD MOTOR SCOOTER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk52nGxF-jc
Posted by: MONTROSE (for Ace) at December 20, 2021 01:48 PM (tmnMR)

Fistbump for the Montrose!

Moar Montrose...
Rock Candy - https://youtu.be/CtDO3qBo72M

Posted by: Doof at December 20, 2021 01:50 PM (mZUr4)

121
That's all well and good, but not before he burns in a series of guttering braziers lining the basalt walls of the throne room in my Citadel of Pain.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

You gonna have a live video feed of that?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 20, 2021 01:50 PM (q3P4d)

122 At the end of the last thread someone was asking what they have Biden on.

Well. When I lived in New Hampshire I found out that you can (at least at the time) buy just about any sort of supplement. Some of the stuff was borderline banned chemicals.

I got some stuff from calf kidneys and bull testes. Not testosterone per se but it was from the same place.

I was freaking energized!!!! to the point where they had to tell me to cool it as I was getting out of hand. Overexcited about stuff and in arguments or discussions. Some other stuff pertaining to personality. I quit taking the stuff cause I couldnt sleep and I was upsetting the other workers. But man was I ENERGIZED!!!

I may have to make a trip to New Hampshire cause I cannot for the life of me remember the names of the stuff but if I see it I'll recognize it.

I could use some about now.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 20, 2021 01:50 PM (0st7I)

123 =======

"Joke?"
-Jimmy Kimmel
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, John Ford goes to war at December 20, 2021 01:50 PM (LvTSG)


He as a bowl game named after him. He gives no fucks.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 01:50 PM (Zz0t1)

124 I am reasonably sure that Fauchi is the same kind of evil psycho that Mengele was, that Gosnell is. He found his niche and can express his evil desires and be praised and even beloved for it.

For now.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 01:51 PM (KZzsI)

125 Poster children for proof that focused lockdowns and therapeutics was the correct response, Sweden and Florida.

So happy that I was lucky enough to live in Florida through this madness.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at December 20, 2021 01:51 PM (5p7BC)

126 Jimmy Kimmel had a bowl game named after him.

Posted by: steevy at December 20, 2021 01:51 PM (CYnTg)

127 I recall last year that Harvard's Dr. Kulldorff, with his impeccable credentials, was being censured on Twatter because he had tweeted that it was foolish to give the vaccines to young children, as they faced almost no risk from covid, and the risks to them from the vaccines far outweighed any benefits.

Kulldorff is an expert epidemiologist, one of the most frequently cited in the medical/academic world, and yet because he wasn't toeing the Fauci/government line, his advice was "inaccurate."

It was beyond ludicrous.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at December 20, 2021 01:51 PM (k4dH2)

128 Where is qdpsteve? Haven't seen him post in a while.
Posted by: I mean at December 20, 2021 01:48 PM (AohgV)

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I think he got banned for a week.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 20, 2021 01:51 PM (eA1RV)

129 I tried to buy some yesterday. No joy.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 20, 2021 01:48 PM (jTmQV)

I haven't looked for months now - but isn't the horse paste still readily available? Or did they shut that down as well? Even amazoid was selling the stuff for a while.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 20, 2021 01:51 PM (wAnMi)

130 >>Fistbump for the Montrose!


Soundgarden should have been paying those guys royalties.

Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 01:51 PM (tmnMR)

131 You gonna have a live video feed of that?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 20, 2021 01:50 PM (q3P4d)

Better than yet another Yule log livestream.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 20, 2021 01:51 PM (/EuRN)

132 We spent more money, way more money, on COVID then on anything in human history.

Was it worth that investment? Was COVID a bigger threat then NAZI Germany?

And note the official results are 800K dead. If this is success...what would failure have looked like?

Posted by: 18-1 at December 20, 2021 01:51 PM (ESjRY)

133 Perhaps Jill Biden can help. I heard she's a doctor.

Posted by: Suburban wine moms at December 20, 2021 01:51 PM (jYQlA)

134 Dr. Peter McCullough - Dallas, TX

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 01:50 PM (Zz0t1)

Yes, so many...lots of Asian names I can't recall or pronounce.

Very brave and refuse to be silenced.

Posted by: kallistx at December 20, 2021 01:52 PM (DJFLF)

135 Imagine thinking the goal of life is to amass power here on earth by any means necessary.

Posted by: ... at December 20, 2021 01:52 PM (1gBxb)

136 I haven't looked for months now - but isn't the horse paste still readily available? Or did they shut that down as well? Even amazoid was selling the stuff for a while.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 20, 2021

Got an e-mail from valley vets this AM and they have it

Posted by: It's me donna at December 20, 2021 01:52 PM (TdaKq)

137 Some have. Sadly, so many doctors are now beholden to their employers (hospitals). This was by design and a result of ObamaCare.

Where are the brave doctors who will take a stand?

Standing right beside all those upright, noble FBI whistleblowers.
Posted by: Deep State 910 at December 20, 2021 01:43 PM (zvYHx)

Hospitals love that sweet gubment cash.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at December 20, 2021 01:52 PM (y7DUB)

138 The big problem is if ANY alternatives exists, the emergency use authorization goes away. When it does, no more shots.

No more shots = no more $$$ billions.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 20, 2021 01:50 PM (uXonU)

^THIS is why no university medical centers are researching out-patient treatment. Per Dr McCullough - ZERO.

Posted by: Deep State 910 at December 20, 2021 01:52 PM (zvYHx)

139 Jimmy Kimmel had a bowl game named after him.

MMMMMm yes, more diarrhrea on my face please, I cannot get enough of you crapping directly into my mouth num num!!!

Posted by: NFL Fans at December 20, 2021 01:52 PM (KZzsI)

140
I love that Somewhere Over the Rainbow thing. Kinda reminds me of John Kerry airlifting James Taylor into France.

Our scientific establishment is like a really lame, faggy version of Floyd Ferris.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 20, 2021 01:40 PM (2ABQr)


I prefer Blackmore's version of Over The Rainbow/Kill The King. But that's just me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LNzeluZWlU

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 20, 2021 01:52 PM (n+4am)

141 Please consider my post 595 from the last thread about Dr. Robert Young. Lots of info on the jab ingredients.
Worth considering...

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 20, 2021 01:52 PM (t0714)

142 Anyone who screams "THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED!" has no clue what science is. And I say this as someone with no medical training.
Posted by: NR Pax at December 20, 2021 01:48 PM (4olE
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And how fast-settling is Science?

It took centuries for certain concepts fixed in the discipline could be overturned, but now Science is New and Improved Fast-acting Science that settles in less than a year?

Anybody who sells or buys that isn't that informed of the History of Science.

Who knows when we would have learned of radiation had it not been rainy for days on end when Becquerel wanted to test the effect of the sun on uranium?

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2021 01:52 PM (XHhHI)

143 And note the official results are 800K dead. If this is success...what would failure have looked like?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 20, 2021 01:51 PM (ESjRY)

A second Trump term.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 20, 2021 01:53 PM (/EuRN)

144 A bit OT.
Just read from a buddy in Prague. The Czech Republic is ending the emergency lockdown on Christmas.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 20, 2021 01:53 PM (axyOa)

145 >>Fistbump for the Montrose!


Soundgarden should have been paying those guys royalties.
Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 01:51 PM (tmnMR)

Quality comment, garrett.

Comment to the video I linked for Rock Candy...
"I usually don't listen to Montrose anymore. But when I do so do the neighbors !"

Posted by: Doof at December 20, 2021 01:53 PM (mZUr4)

146 Fauci et all need the Hot Needle of Inquiry

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 20, 2021 01:53 PM (vhc9+)

147 I haven't looked for months now - but isn't the horse paste still readily available? Or did they shut that down as well? Even amazoid was selling the stuff for a while.
Posted by: clutch cargo


Farm stores carry pony paste.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 20, 2021 01:53 PM (uXonU)

148 Fauci is a litmus test.

Posted by: mr tmz at December 20, 2021 01:53 PM (m/Gc2)

149 Imagine thinking the goal of life is to amass power here on earth by any means necessary.
Posted by: ... at December 20, 2021 01:52 PM (1gBxb)
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I've got a picture for you...

Posted by: O'Brien at December 20, 2021 01:53 PM (XHhHI)

150 Someone mentioned the BMJ Letter. Let me see if I can post it here or if I'll need to use one of the censurious URL shorteners.

https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635/rr-80

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Cryptid Anarchist at December 20, 2021 01:54 PM (taEBS)

151
Jimmy Kimmel had a bowl game named after him.
Posted by: steevy

There's a Groveling Pussy Bowl now?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 20, 2021 01:54 PM (q3P4d)

152 From Twatter trending topics:

>Fictional preparedness scenarios are commonly used across many sectors and are not predictions, Reuters and Lead Stories report

Hmm...I wonder if a story about the "SPARS pandemic" scenario from fall 2019 that is very, very similar to how COVID played out is getting some traction today. Gotta suppress any "crazy right-wing conspiracy theories"!

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 20, 2021 01:54 PM (cSs/W)

153 Still waiting for a cleansing airburst over Wuhan.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 20, 2021 01:54 PM (lz5hY)

154 >> Every day I can't wait until Fauci burns in Hell



In the end, he's going to make the "Silent Spring" lady look like a piker with the eventual death counts. Just imagine how many lives are potentially ruined by the untested vaccine he partnered with Moderna to create starting in 2015.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 20, 2021 01:54 PM (URNdm)

155 >>Anyone who screams "THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED!" has no clue what science is.


Ptolemy was more accurate than Copernicus for how long?

Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 01:54 PM (tmnMR)

156 Where is qdpsteve? Haven't seen him post in a while.
Posted by: I mean
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Banned about a week ago.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at December 20, 2021 01:54 PM (5p7BC)

157 Got an e-mail from valley vets this AM and they have it
Posted by: It's me donna at December 20, 2021 01:52 PM (TdaKq)

I should probably get some just in case I suppose. Are any morons taking it as a prophylactic?

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at December 20, 2021 01:54 PM (wAnMi)

158 106 -

We went down a very bad road when physicians started being employees of healthcare systems.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 20, 2021 01:54 PM (c8sog)

159 156 Where is qdpsteve? Haven't seen him post in a while.
Posted by: I mean
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Banned about a week ago.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at December 20, 2021 01:54 PM (5p7BC)

=========

What's he do?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, John Ford goes to war at December 20, 2021 01:54 PM (LvTSG)

160 Jimmy Kimmel had a bowl game named after him.
Posted by: steevy at December 20, 2021 01:51 PM (CYnTg)

I'm sure that stops as soon as he stops paying to sponsor it.

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at December 20, 2021 01:54 PM (y7DUB)

161
"Silent Spring" lady

-----

Rachel Carson

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 20, 2021 01:54 PM (2ABQr)

162 I tried to buy some yesterday. No joy.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 20, 2021 01:48 PM (jTmQV)

Valley Vet has Bimectin in stock today. I haven't used this particular brand.

https://bityl.co/AAWc

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at December 20, 2021 01:55 PM (yQpMk)

163 Posted by: ... at December 20, 2021 01:47 PM (1gBxb)

In reality always have been.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 20, 2021 01:55 PM (QJ599)

164 Just saw the news about Tami. So terrible. She was such a nice person and a credit to this blog.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at December 20, 2021 01:55 PM (XSRBF)

165 The odd thing is that the press simutaneously wants to push the narrative that lots of people have died from the Wuhan Flu, yet not mention that most of them have been during the Biden administration.

I mean, most of those alleged deaths aren't actually FROM the flu, but that's their narrative.

So they are trying to have it both ways. And people are letting them get away with it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 01:55 PM (KZzsI)

166 Apparently the Biden Administration's sooper genius plan to pressure Manchin to support the Build Back Broker bill was to send Cumala to WV to do a local TV interview where she would extol how wonderful the BBB plan was.

Bonus idiocy: During the interview, Cumala was supposed to talk about how the bill would help to deal with abandoned mine lands. She got konfuzed and said it would help deal with landmines.

Yeah, the famous landmine issue of WV.

https://youtu.be/UGqJmMu0LnU

Posted by: bonhomme at December 20, 2021 01:55 PM (sG4Hj)

167 The big problem with HCQ and IVM is that they are out of patent, widely produced by various companies, are plentiful and therefore cheap, and effective.
So, if you are Pfizer, Moderna or J and J pushing shots that will make you tens of billions of dollars, you have to shut them down.
Which they did do, at least in the US.
I tried to buy some yesterday. No joy.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 20, 2021 01:48 PM (jTmQV)

That's pretty stupid when real businesses make billions of dollars on fizzy water with food coloring in it by creative marketing.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 20, 2021 01:55 PM (eoQWY)

168 Basically all you need to know is that Fauci _always_ has a smile or a smirk on his face despite the fact that he's lost about 800,000 people on his watch in the United States alone, and 5.35 million worldwide.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Cryptid Anarchist at December 20, 2021 01:46 PM (taEBS)

This is his time to shine. It's made the fucker immortal.

Just how leftists never really seem THAT upset that Global Warming exists and all the measures we need to take to stop it just *happen* to line up 100% with their political beliefs. I mean do they ever look all that upset when they tell us the world is ending in a couple years??

Posted by: ... at December 20, 2021 01:55 PM (1gBxb)

169 >>>Jimmy Kimmel had a bowl game named after him.

The Sarah Silverman Broke Me Bowl?

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 20, 2021 01:55 PM (HmZuC)

170 "Silent Spring" lady

-----

Rachel Carson
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 20, 2021 01:54 PM (2ABQr)

She's responsible for the death of millions with the banning of DDT

Posted by: It's me donna at December 20, 2021 01:55 PM (TdaKq)

171 Like pudding through a funnel, so are the days of our lives.
Posted by: Ana Navarro at December 20, 2021 01:38 PM (cWgVf)
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*visualizes*
I-I'll be in my bunk.

Posted by: Brian Stelter at December 20, 2021 01:55 PM (o0WIV)

172 BAD MOTOR SCOOTER

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk52nGxF-jc
Posted by: MONTROSE (for Ace) at December 20, 2021 01:48 PM (tmnMR)
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Sammy Hagar back when I could listen to him.

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2021 01:56 PM (XHhHI)

173 Bad funnel

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 20, 2021 01:56 PM (vhc9+)

174 Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain, Cryptid Anarchist at December 20, 2021 01:54 PM (taEBS)

is this the one where they pushed back at FB "fact checkers"?

Posted by: kallistx at December 20, 2021 01:56 PM (DJFLF)

175 Emmie was kind enough to let me know the terrible news about Tami. I am awful at trying to think of something meaningful to say at times like this, but she was such a sweetheart...and so funny, and smart. Such a vital part of us.

I can't imagine how her family must be feeling right now... but Heaven is surely rejoicing. We'll miss you dear lady.

Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at December 20, 2021 01:56 PM (HxQqv)

176 That's pretty stupid when real businesses make billions of dollars on fizzy water with food coloring in it by creative marketing.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 20, 2021 01:55 PM (eoQWY)

Nobody's forcing you to drink seltzer at gunpoint.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 20, 2021 01:56 PM (/EuRN)

177 >>Sammy Hagar back when I could listen to him.

Yep. Sammy in Montrose was fucking amazing...after that? Not so much.

Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 01:56 PM (tmnMR)

178
Bonus idiocy: During the interview, Cumala was supposed to talk about how the bill would help to deal with abandoned mine lands. She got konfuzed and said it would help deal with landmines.

Yeah, the famous landmine issue of WV.

https://youtu.be/UGqJmMu0LnU
Posted by: bonhomme

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 20, 2021 01:57 PM (q3P4d)

179 I wouldn't buy a car from any of these guys.

I'm surprised they don't wear those checked pants and the pastel suit coat.

With a $5,000 grin. Hey those caps don't pay for themselves you know.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 20, 2021 01:57 PM (0st7I)

180 156-

What for?

Posted by: BurtTC at December 20, 2021 01:57 PM (c8sog)

181
Just had my doc yell at me this morning because I'm not getting the clot shot. Dammit doc, I've had the coof twice already, second time just a few months ago and it was a 2 day bout of sniffles. I'm pretty sure I'm fine.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 20, 2021 01:57 PM (n+4am)

182 NY has been vaxxed and quadruple masked for 2 years.

FL has been meh, live your life for 2 years.

Deaths per 1M from the 'Rona

NY: 3037
FL: 2896

Conclusion: Fauci is asshoe

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at December 20, 2021 01:57 PM (OalnH)

183
She's responsible for the death of millions with the banning of DDT
Posted by: It's me donna at December 20, 2021 01:55 PM (TdaKq)

She and Margaret Sanger were both Grand Witches of the Killer Karen Klub.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 20, 2021 01:57 PM (2ABQr)

184 Sammy Hagar back when I could listen to him.
Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2021 01:56 PM (XHhHI)

When/why did you sour on Sammy? I'm still a fan. Curious as to your reasoning for being a former fan.

Posted by: Doof at December 20, 2021 01:57 PM (mZUr4)

185 >>What for?


I think the Cobs found out he is a Streisand fan.

Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 01:57 PM (tmnMR)

186
Yeah, the famous landmine issue of WV.

https://youtu.be/UGqJmMu0LnU

Posted by: bonhomme at December 20, 2021 01:55 PM (sG4Hj)

lolol

she keeps topping herself. Remember when she laid the wreath at the grave of the Viet Cong?

Posted by: kallistx at December 20, 2021 01:58 PM (DJFLF)

187 Just saw the sad news. Happy trails, Tami. You will certainly be missed.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 20, 2021 01:58 PM (TKmok)

188 "Silent Spring" lady

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Rachel Carson
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 20, 2021 01:54 PM (2ABQr)

Another eco liar, who has quite a death count on her score from getting DDT banned in tropical areas. But what's a few tens of millions of people from India and Africa when there are eagles under made up threat?

Posted by: Oldcat at December 20, 2021 01:58 PM (eoQWY)

189 15 How are we ever going to get "Science" back? If and when this COVID plandemic ever ends, you know they will go full bore on Climate Change and all those policies. How do we stop this idiocy??

Posted by: Iris at December 20, 2021 01:35 PM (DibdT)


It is a politics and public information issue more than a science issue. As long as politicians, almost all Prog Democrats to-date, can make political hay using pliable, greedy, and attention-seeking scientists to say what politicians want them to say, the problem continues. The problem is exacerbated by the media giving the public only information that supports the case of politicians the media likes. The Deep State is also part of the politics problem. Deep State GS-13's and above decide which scientists get most of the Federal research dollars, and how much. Scientists who want money know what studies and what results the Deep Staters want.

Posted by: Gref at December 20, 2021 01:58 PM (AMIL/)

190 Posted by: Lizzy at December 20, 2021 01:54 PM (URNdm)

I always see big things named after Rachel Carson. The Left takes care of their own.

Posted by: ... at December 20, 2021 01:58 PM (1gBxb)

191 185 >>What for?


I think the Cobs found out he is a Streisand fan.
Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 01:57 PM (tmnMR)

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So, they SWATed him too, huh?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, John Ford goes to war at December 20, 2021 01:58 PM (LvTSG)

192
The big problem is if ANY alternatives exists, the emergency use authorization goes away. When it does, no more shots.

No more shots = no more $$$ billions.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 20, 2021 01:50 PM (uXonU)

That's not exactly true. The EUA's cover vaccinations not prophylaxes. They can still promote Ivermectin and other remedies without touching the EUA.
No doubt it would cut deeply into the demand for the vax though.

Posted by: Inogame X-State Lines at December 20, 2021 01:58 PM (53oGX)

193 >>Rachel Carson

Thanks, I blanked on her name.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 20, 2021 01:59 PM (URNdm)

194 Bonus idiocy: During the interview, Cumala was supposed to talk about how the bill would help to deal with abandoned mine lands. She got konfuzed and said it would help deal with landmines.

Yeah, the famous landmine issue of WV.


We call those cow turds in Texas.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 20, 2021 01:59 PM (uXonU)

195 Yeah, the famous landmine issue of WV.

https://youtu.be/UGqJmMu0LnU
Posted by: bonhomme at December 20, 2021 01:55 PM (sG4Hj)
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MANCHIN WANTS YOUR KIDS CRIPPLED! HE WANTS YOUR LIMBLESS KIDS TO CRAWL TO SCHOOL IN THE DIR--

*whisper in ear*

...nevermind.

Posted by: VP Litella at December 20, 2021 01:59 PM (o0WIV)

196 185-

As a singer, actress, or sex symbol?

Posted by: BurtTC at December 20, 2021 01:59 PM (c8sog)

197 I know "Twitter is a sewer etc etc" is a mantra here, especially useful for those who presumably think idiots like pundits and actors and community activists are/were the ones to check on. But the Barrington people plus Levitt plus many many more smaller names were/some cases still are the best independent observers on all this, and they did/still do use Twitter as their platform.

Oh - and "let it rip" is a classic example of the actual definition of "begging the question" (forget the latin term for this fallacy) - assuming the answer to the very question under discussion while approaching the discussion.

There is no option, with a pathogen of this nature (already prevalent, highly transmissible), to "letting it rip". You're not "letting" anything happen.

Which leads to the gravity analogy. Gonna have to email Kuldorff and chastise him for stealing my favorite construct to mock "climate change" nonsense - I always ask when anti-gravity research will get more funding, since surely if we can affect climate we can affect gravity.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 20, 2021 02:00 PM (OTzUX)

198
Still waiting for a cleansing airburst over Wuhan.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 20, 2021 01:54 PM

Ground burst so it glows in the dark for a hundred years.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at December 20, 2021 02:00 PM (dQvv7)

199 Jimmy Kimmel had a bowl game named after him.
Posted by: steevy at December 20, 2021 01:51 PM (CYnTg)

I'm sure that stops as soon as he stops paying to sponsor it.
Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at December 20, 2021 01:54 PM (y7DUB)


Yes, but I'm quite sure he's not paying for it. NBC is. His ratings are so in the toilet, they're doing anything they can to draw attention to the show.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 02:00 PM (Zz0t1)

200 We can never debate these issues like global warming -- they're always "too important" for debate and dissent, so we proceed directly to suppression, censorship, propaganda and punishment of dissenters.
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This is the true subject of Eisenhower's farewell address. It has been called the "Military-Industrial Complex" speech, but Eisenhower is only using his experience in the military to warn us about the Expert takeover of the civil determination process.

My theory on why the press has so long taken it as strictly about the "Military-Industrial Complex" is that the Industry and a Military that allows the free market to exist are two of the biggest enemies of Marxists.

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2021 02:00 PM (XHhHI)

201 Fauci is an egotistical little asshole. Anybody who screams that you can't question him because he IS science belongs in a friggin' nut house.

He's nothing but an arrogant little bureaucrat. He doesn't "do" science, he just reads about what other scientists are doing (and it's not even clear that he does very much of that). He only had a year of internship and a single year of residency at his medical school's hospital, before he jumped over to government work. He's not even a real doctor, in that he's never had his own practice and hasn't even tried to treat a patient in over 50 years.

The man is a fraud, in every sense of the word. And he's incompetent in the bargain.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at December 20, 2021 02:00 PM (k4dH2)

202 yeah, i'm not allowed to say what i'm thinking. but it's not pretty and it should happent to fuck fauci and the rest of the twatwaffles that foisted this crap on us.

Posted by: Jasper at December 20, 2021 02:00 PM (8D42x)

203 >>>She's responsible for the death of millions with the banning of DDT

Most environmentalists will tell you the death of humans is good thing for the planet. That was a win-win for them.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 20, 2021 02:01 PM (HmZuC)

204 111
We have some questions for 'Dr' Fauci.
Posted by: Nuremberg Tribunal, 2022 at December 20, 2021 01:48 PM (dQvv7)

We will provide helo transport, free of charge, to the trials. But most of our passengers leave while in-flight.

Posted by: Pinochet's Helo Pilots, LLC at December 20, 2021 02:01 PM (6VKyY)

205 Jimmy Kimmel had a bowl game named after him.
Posted by: steevy at December 20, 2021 01:51 PM (CYnTg)
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But everybody tears up their invitation to the Crying Loser Bowl.

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2021 02:01 PM (XHhHI)

206 That's not exactly true. The EUA's cover vaccinations not prophylaxes. They can still promote Ivermectin and other remedies without touching the EUA.
No doubt it would cut deeply into the demand for the vax though.
Posted by: Inogame X-State Lines

I thought if there was any treatment available, it put the kibosh on EUA.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 20, 2021 02:01 PM (uXonU)

207 188-

Why, you'd almost think they WANT all those swarthy third worlders dead or something.

Almost.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 20, 2021 02:01 PM (c8sog)

208 If I have a bottle of champagne in the house I will pop the cork when Fauci croaks

Posted by: steevy at December 20, 2021 02:01 PM (CYnTg)

209 I think the thing that mystifies me the most, is that most are TRUSTING the very guy who caused people to die in the first place.

Fauci is all in on gain of function research, we have numerous papers and speeches where he says so, BUT our political leaders said taking a virus and making it deadly to humans, was a BAD thing, and outlawed it in this country.

So Fauci then trained the Communist Chinese Scientist here in the US, then OUTSOURCED Gain of Function to an Enemy Nation, where they could then use that knowledge to create bioweapons.

He flat out created a conspiracy to bypass US Law, and created his own public Policy. Yet somehow people still LISTEN to him about public Policy?

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 20, 2021 02:01 PM (oHd/0)

210 Fauci, as old as he is, remembers what the inside of a locker looks like. And a swirly when the head meets the water in a toilet.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 20, 2021 02:02 PM (lz5hY)

211 Now see, I've been doing exactly that. I'm more at risk? So I hid out in my home all this time. Buying bulk food on Amazon and only going to the store for perishable and doing that early in the morning when fewer people were at the store. I also wore the mask because I think it MIGHT do some good. (I disenfect mine) So I'm self quarantining but these butt head still say I've got to get the vaxx. So far I don't believe I've had it. I was last tested in June and was okay then.
I'm afraid dicks like these guys that say I shouldn't be allowed in the hospital are the ones who are going to win the argument and I'll be faced with the choice of getting my dr visits so I can get my scripts for the meds that are helping keep me comfortable or sticking some undefined poisong in my veins and hope for the best.

Had someone complaining about how tough their choices were cause they had a job so I told them what MY choices were. I'd love to have that choice of theirs.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 20, 2021 02:02 PM (0st7I)

212 These left wing "scientists" are no better than the squad. The are fascists with fancy educations

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 20, 2021 02:02 PM (GPwVZ)

213 here's the BMJ letter where the editors call out the incompetent and illiterate FB "fact checkers"

https://tinyurl.com/2p8hck2m

Posted by: kallistx at December 20, 2021 02:02 PM (DJFLF)

214 That's pretty stupid when real businesses make billions of dollars on fizzy water with food coloring in it by creative marketing.
Posted by: Oldcat at December 20, 2021 01:55 PM (eoQWY)

Nobody's forcing you to drink seltzer at gunpoint.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at December 20, 2021 01:56 PM (/EuRN)

They don't have to, of course. But even the 'greedy pharma' line misses the point. HCQ and 'mectin could have had everyone taking cautionary doses daily forever to mitigate Covid, flus and the like and life could have gone on, and they would have made a mint.

Instead, they want the gun on your head to take the vax, such as it is, and boosters. Because the gun is the point, and not the money.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 20, 2021 02:02 PM (eoQWY)

215 Bonus idiocy: During the interview, Cumala was supposed to talk about how the bill would help to deal with abandoned mine lands. She got konfuzed and said it would help deal with landmines.
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This is either a wildly funny sick burn by somebody here, or, My God Have Mercy, the Vice President of the United states if functionally retarded, whilst the President is demented. Remind me who is next on succession list?

Posted by: But I'm the nut at December 20, 2021 02:02 PM (hKPHU)

216 What's he do?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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I don't know why, but he went off on Jim, Nurse, Ben Had and a few others, including COBs.

Quite a few of us just quietly walked away for a few hours while it all got sorted out. When we came back, word was he had been banned.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at December 20, 2021 02:03 PM (5p7BC)

217 Jimmy Kimmel had a bowl game named after him.
Posted by: steevy at December 20, 2021 01:51 PM (CYnTg)

I'm sure that stops as soon as he stops paying to sponsor it.
Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at December 20, 2021 01:54 PM (y7DUB)


Yes, but I'm quite sure he's not paying for it. NBC is. His ratings are so in the toilet, they're doing anything they can to draw attention to the show.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 02:00 PM (Zz0t1)

ABC

Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at December 20, 2021 02:03 PM (y7DUB)

218 159 156 Where is qdpsteve? Haven't seen him post in a while.
Posted by: I mean
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Banned about a week ago.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at December 20, 2021 01:54 PM (5p7BC)
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What's he do?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, John Ford goes to war at December 20, 2021 01:54 PM (LvTSG)

Came back from his first ban, and went OFF!!!

Vaporized moments later...

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at December 20, 2021 02:03 PM (BgMrQ)

219 The Jimmy Kimmel Los Angeles Bowl.

2 things that a majority of America could give a flying fuck about.

Sniveling commie asshole and a shithole.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 02:03 PM (Zz0t1)

220 Collins "...you may be sick of hearing about the virus, but the virus is not sick of you. It has thrown us a curveball..."

Yep, that dastardly virus is out there, scheming and plotting against mankind! A protein shell full of RNA now has agency. There's some SCIENCE™ for you.

Posted by: Muldoon at December 20, 2021 02:03 PM (m45I2)

221 215 This is either a wildly funny sick burn by somebody here, or, My God Have Mercy, the Vice President of the United states if functionally retarded, whilst the President is demented. Remind me who is next on succession list?
Posted by: But I'm the nut at December 20, 2021 02:02 PM (hKPHU)

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Kamala most likely has an IQ in the 80s.

She's an idiot.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, John Ford goes to war at December 20, 2021 02:03 PM (LvTSG)

222 This is the true subject of Eisenhower's farewell address. It has been called the "Military-Industrial Complex" speech, but Eisenhower is only using his experience in the military to warn us about the Expert takeover of the civil determination process.

My theory on why the press has so long taken it as strictly about the "Military-Industrial Complex" is that the Industry and a Military that allows the free market to exist are two of the biggest enemies of Marxists.
Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2021 02:00 PM (XHhHI)

Same speech:

Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.

It is the task of statesmanship to mold, to balance, and to integrate these and other forces, new and old, within the principles of our democratic system-ever aiming toward the supreme goals of our free society.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 20, 2021 02:04 PM (oHd/0)

223
ABC
Posted by: Captain Hate won't forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at December 20, 2021 02:03 PM (y7DUB)


Oops. Shows you how much I pay attention to that asshole.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 02:04 PM (Zz0t1)

224 I thought if there was any treatment available, it put the kibosh on EUA.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 20, 2021 02:01 PM (uXonU)

I'm pretty sure that's how the statute reads...

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at December 20, 2021 02:04 PM (BgMrQ)

225 I think the thing that mystifies me the most, is that most are TRUSTING the very guy who caused people to die in the first place.

LIVs don't know that Fauci was doing GoF research in Wuhan.

LIVs don't know Fauci murdered AIDS orphans

LIVs don't know there are at least 20K dead from the clot shots.

LIVs do "know" that COVID killed 800K people, that 50% of the people that get COVID need hospitalization, and that Florida is the worst place for COVID in the world.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 20, 2021 02:04 PM (ESjRY)

226 216 I don't know why, but he went off on Jim, Nurse, Ben Had and a few others, including COBs.

Quite a few of us just quietly walked away for a few hours while it all got sorted out. When we came back, word was he had been banned.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at December 20, 2021 02:03 PM (5p7BC)

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Well, that's unfortunate. He always seemed overenthusiastic to me. He was nice whenever I saw him around.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, John Ford goes to war at December 20, 2021 02:04 PM (LvTSG)

227 >>>She's responsible for the death of millions with the banning of DDT

Most environmentalists will tell you the death of humans is good thing for the planet. That was a win-win for them.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 20, 2021 02:01 PM (HmZuC)

I note that none of them are volunteering to be the ones that are culled for the greater good of Gaia.

Funny, huh?

Posted by: Oldcat at December 20, 2021 02:04 PM (eoQWY)

228 And if they will do this to other drs. you can bet your bippy that they would do that to anyone that didn't have as much rep.

And if they'll lie about his for their own selfish purposes then they'll lie like a rug to protect their money from their investment and patents. Like Fauci has.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 20, 2021 02:04 PM (0st7I)

229 206 That's not exactly true. The EUA's cover vaccinations not prophylaxes. They can still promote Ivermectin and other remedies without touching the EUA.
No doubt it would cut deeply into the demand for the vax though.
Posted by: Inogame X-State Lines

I thought if there was any treatment available, it put the kibosh on EUA.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 20, 2021 02:01 PM (uXonU)

I thought that too, but in the Rogan interview with Peter McCullough the Dr. said they do not have anything to do with one another. He was more specific than I can repeat here - not for any reason than I would not be able to recite his specifics from memory.

Posted by: Inogame X-State Lines at December 20, 2021 02:04 PM (53oGX)

230 Yes, but I'm quite sure he's not paying for it. NBC is. His ratings are so in the toilet, they're doing anything they can to draw attention to the show.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 02:00 PM (Zz0t1)

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He or any of the other late night drones should have booked Francis Collins to appear as a musical act. The clapping seals in attendance would have had a collective orgasm upon viewing it.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at December 20, 2021 02:05 PM (TNyrE)

231 Posting Montrose video's, eh?

https://youtu.be/yxUgW5CLk18

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 20, 2021 02:05 PM (sAmhv)

232 >>Yep, that dastardly virus is out there, scheming and plotting against mankind! A protein shell full of RNA now has agency. There's some SCIENCE for you.
Posted by: Muldoon


Posted by: Lizzy at December 20, 2021 02:05 PM (URNdm)

233 Axeman, you know the saying: science advances one funeral at a time.

Politix and science, having human participants, share some pathologies.

The Structure of Scientific Revolutions, by Kuhn, from way back in the 70s, for an excellent concise description of how politix and human weakness are the constant enemy of true science.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 20, 2021 02:05 PM (OTzUX)

234 Fauci is not just an egotistical asshole I truly believe this, he is a demon, or possessed by one. YMMV

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at December 20, 2021 02:05 PM (QJ599)

235 Fauci is an egotistical little asshole. Anybody who screams that you can't question him because he IS science belongs in a friggin' nut house.

He's nothing but an arrogant little bureaucrat. He doesn't "do" science, he just reads about what other scientists are doing (and it's not even clear that he does very much of that). He only had a year of internship and a single year of residency at his medical school's hospital, before he jumped over to government work. He's not even a real doctor, in that he's never had his own practice and hasn't even tried to treat a patient in over 50 years.

The man is a fraud, in every sense of the word. And he's incompetent in the bargain.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at December 20, 2021 02:00 PM (k4dH2)

All 100% correct. He's the same POS who said AZT was the way to treat AIDS. How many AIDS patients were save by AZT? From my understanding and some research, that number is in the zero percent range.

Posted by: Pinochet's Helo Pilots, LLC at December 20, 2021 02:05 PM (6VKyY)

236
Instead, they want the gun on your head to take the vax, such as it is, and boosters. Because the gun is the point, and not the money.
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Power of "and" bro. The gun AND the money. Really it is multiprong op. They also get to weed out the hard core who will not go along with the coercion and refuse. Fired from jobs, kicked out of academies, etc. They get to make society less able to resist to tyranny. More likely to rubber stamp authority by getting rid of conscience.

Posted by: But I'm the nut at December 20, 2021 02:05 PM (hKPHU)

237 65 >>>How are we ever going to get "Science" back?

We don't, at least not for a long time. Science has been hijacked by the political left the same as it was hijacked by the Catholic Church back in the Middle Ages. Heresy must be punished, with inquisitions and excommunication if necessary.
Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 20, 2021 01:44 PM (HmZuC)

The hijacking's of science and medicine started in the late 70's with the tobacco mandates. It was through that they figured out how easy it was to frighten the populace.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 20, 2021 02:06 PM (Fs5vw)

238 I tried to buy some yesterday. No joy.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 20, 2021

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Yeah, even Cactusvalleytx.com is "sold out" of IVM (Bimectin is the brand name). I'm glad I grabbed my 3 tubes when I did, at the Horde's suggestion, I might add.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 20, 2021 02:06 PM (txdEq)

239 >>Kamala most likely has an IQ in the 80s.

>She's an idiot.



Intelligence is overrated.

Take it from me.

You swallow enough semen and people will make you a legend.

Posted by: The Kracken at December 20, 2021 02:06 PM (FMlx/)

240 From Dr. Jay's tl:

They engaged in ad hominem smears, calling @SunetraGupta
, @MartinKulldorff
, and me "fringe" epidemiologists. It is an odd argument given my decades of NIH-funded research. Does Collins & the NIH fund many other "fringe" scientists? (10/n)

Posted by: kallistx at December 20, 2021 02:06 PM (DJFLF)

241 So, did Wired and The Nation Magazine coordinate with Fauci's underlings just like the Russian-connection journalists did??

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 20, 2021 02:06 PM (UHVv4)

242 126 Jimmy Kimmel had a bowl game named after him.

i'm guessing it was something along the lines of tiddlywinks

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at December 20, 2021 02:07 PM (v3pYe)

243 I was banned for months for accidentally posting on a dead thread. Just posted from time to time with my phone until my IP address changed LOL

Posted by: steevy at December 20, 2021 02:07 PM (CYnTg)

244 When/why did you sour on Sammy? I'm still a fan. Curious as to your reasoning for being a former fan.
Posted by: Doof at December 20, 2021 01:57 PM (mZUr4)
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For a while, I actually preferred Hagar to say, Ted Nugent.

Baby's on Fire was sooooo overplayed that I got sick of it. And it really hit after I was mostly sick of it--and I was listening to a legit AOR station at the time(!!) (WLAV in Grand Rapids, MI) As Sammy piled up more hits the songs I liked of his got fewer and farther between.

I do like his Heavy Metal soundtrack song, though.

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2021 02:07 PM (XHhHI)

245 240 They engaged in ad hominem smears, calling @SunetraGupta
, @MartinKulldorff
, and me "fringe" epidemiologists. It is an odd argument given my decades of NIH-funded research. Does Collins & the NIH fund many other "fringe" scientists? (10/n)

no.

*whistles innocently*

Posted by: Wuhan Virology Lab at December 20, 2021 02:07 PM (v3pYe)

246 Fauci and Collins speak English words and sound so Soviet......

Posted by: Voter theater. at December 20, 2021 02:07 PM (FCPbW)

247 187 Just saw the sad news. Happy trails, Tami. You will certainly be missed.
Posted by: Notorious BFD


Does anybody know what happened?

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 20, 2021 02:08 PM (sAmhv)

248 >> I was banned for months for accidentally posting on a dead thread.


Could be worse.

Could have banned yourself from your own blog.

Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 02:08 PM (FMlx/)

249 OT, but Chekov the Ailing Codger Cat is doing pretty well. Miss Linda just called, and he is eating his midday wet food with gabapentin mixed in and moving around fairly well. He looked pretty bright and alert this morning, too. He sundowns a bit toward evening, and doesn't object much when we insert the prednisone tube into his jaws. But by early am he seems livelier.

No sign of his Rx food via Federal Depress, though.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 20, 2021 02:08 PM (txdEq)

250 How are we ever going to get "Science" back?
---
The Gods of the Copybook Headings need to visit us first.

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2021 02:08 PM (XHhHI)

251 CRT in healthcare

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/492505/

Posted by: steevy at December 20, 2021 02:08 PM (CYnTg)

252 Link to Dr. J's tl:


https://tinyurl.com/53yswmvu

Posted by: kallistx at December 20, 2021 02:08 PM (DJFLF)

253 #17 Hey, Hate. Are you walking for therapy yet? I was thinking about that when you mentioned it. Drive over to Fairport Harbor and walk the beach. Dad used to take me walking on it in the winter when I was little, and with the break wall, it's nice if you're bundled up.

Posted by: bill in arkansas, not gonna comply with nuttin, waiting for the 0300 knock on the door at December 20, 2021 02:08 PM (lz5hY)

254 248 Could be worse.

Could have banned yourself from your own blog.
Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 02:08 PM (FMlx/)

==========

It's what happens when you post busty lesbian porn.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, John Ford goes to war at December 20, 2021 02:09 PM (LvTSG)

255 They engaged in ad hominem smears, calling @SunetraGupta
, @MartinKulldorff
, and me "fringe" epidemiologists. It is an odd argument given my decades of NIH-funded research. Does Collins & the NIH fund many other "fringe" scientists? (10/n)
Posted by: kallistx at December 20, 2021 02:06 PM (DJFLF)

Well given the puppy torturing and other pain infliction "research" we hear them funding, I guess they damn well do find fringe "scientists" on the lines of Doctor Mengele.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 20, 2021 02:09 PM (eoQWY)

256 I was permanently banned.

*looks around*

I got better...

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2021 02:09 PM (XHhHI)

257 226-

Well, some people's definition of "went off" is different from mine. I certainly don't think everyone has to be nice all the time, but I guess there are limits

Posted by: BurtTC at December 20, 2021 02:09 PM (c8sog)

258 For a while, I actually preferred Hagar to say, Ted Nugent.

Baby's on Fire was sooooo overplayed that I got sick of it. And it really hit after I was mostly sick of it--and I was listening to a legit AOR station at the time(!!) (WLAV in Grand Rapids, MI) As Sammy piled up more hits the songs I liked of his got fewer and farther between.

I do like his Heavy Metal soundtrack song, though.
Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2021 02:07 PM (XHhHI)


This is why you'll never convince me that radio play isn't 'pay for play.'

Sammy as a pretty damn large catalog with some good stuff in it that most have likely never heard because they mostly only listen to the radio.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 02:09 PM (Zz0t1)

259 Musk will pay $11,000,000,000.00 in personal taxes this year.

Posted by: Javems at December 20, 2021 02:09 PM (wZO8j)

260 > This is either a wildly funny sick burn by somebody here, or, My God Have Mercy, the Vice President of the United states if functionally retarded, whilst the President is demented. Remind me who is next on succession list?

It's real.
https://youtu.be/UGqJmMu0LnU

Posted by: bonhomme at December 20, 2021 02:09 PM (sG4Hj)

261 True

Posted by: steevy at December 20, 2021 02:09 PM (CYnTg)

262 >>For a while, I actually preferred Hagar to say, Ted Nugent.


Ted is awful at everything but playing guitar...he does that well, though.

Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 02:10 PM (FMlx/)

263 Anthony Fauci, the Komodo dragon of the 'medical' world.

Posted by: Eromero at December 20, 2021 02:10 PM (0OP+5)

264 Don't forget: Francis Collins is a very, very serious person. A very respected epidemiologist scientist bureaucrat.

the ratio on that tw@t is enjoyable

Posted by: kallistx at December 20, 2021 02:10 PM (DJFLF)

265 I had a thread open and opened an old thread to read through the comments. Accidentally posted on the old one and blam!

Posted by: steevy at December 20, 2021 02:10 PM (CYnTg)

266 Lol "must report"

Mayor Muriel Bowser
@MayorBowser
1h
After using a rapid at-home test, residents must report their results to DC Health at http://coronavirus.dc.gov/overthecounter
Posted by: m at December 20, 2021 01:36 PM (PfCJx)

God help DC if 4Chan decides to launch a denial of service using the DC phonebook and agency employee lists

Posted by: Kindltot at December 20, 2021 02:10 PM (ZMraq)

267 >Just had my doc yell at me this morning because I'm not getting the clot shot. Dammit doc, I've had the coof twice already, second time just a few months ago and it was a 2 day bout of sniffles. I'm pretty sure I'm fine.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 20, 2021 01:57 PM (n+4am)

Certainly hope you yelled back.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 20, 2021 02:10 PM (cSs/W)

268 No sign of his Rx food via Federal Depress, though.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 20, 2021 02:08 PM (txdEq)

Are there any vets around you who have it in stock?

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 20, 2021 02:11 PM (Ez6QX)

269

Ted is awful at everything but playing guitar...he does that well, though.
Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 02:10 PM (FMlx/)


I disagree.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 02:11 PM (Zz0t1)

270 Would any of you like to sample my ruminations on the economy? Anyone?

Posted by: Nobel Prize winner Dr. Bone at December 20, 2021 02:11 PM (r0ADi)

271
Oh lordy, lol. I wonder which bowl game the network shelled out to name after... Jimmy Kimmel?!

It's gotta be like Goucher College vs. Bryn Mawr, or something.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 20, 2021 02:12 PM (2ABQr)

272 I remember the first time I heard "The science is settled!" Shouted out by some fat-assed retired state politician at a small meeting. Pig-nosed l'il fucker was talking about Global Warming and dared anyone to challenge him.
Awkward moment.
I just laughed and asked about the scientific method. He was clueless.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 20, 2021 02:12 PM (axyOa)

273 It's not the government, or the science that's taken the biggest hit.

It's the everyday medical establishment. This is what has shocked me that my own Dr. I can no longer trust to tell me the truth and what will be the best treatment for what I may or may not have. Or in the case of older people; whether to get tests that will show that some sort of intervention could be useful but they don't want you to know about it because they don't make a lot of money off you for the treatment. So they are advised by the office manager to keep quiet about telling me what all are my problems. I suspected that that could be going on but after this covid stuff, I'm sure they would have no qualms at all about keeping that treatment to themselves no matter if it takes a few years off my life. I've lived long enough I guess to them.

Won't trust another Dr. Ever. Was always skeptical of some now they're all painted with the same brush.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 20, 2021 02:12 PM (0st7I)

274 Hey, I posted links to both Bad Motorscooter and Space Station #5 about 6 or so months back, and no one gave me kudos!

One of my favorite party-type tracks from Montrose is Rock Candy.

Posted by: Axeman, butthurt at December 20, 2021 02:12 PM (XHhHI)

275 >>I disagree.


His songwriting is horrible. Really fucking bad.

Like Modern Country Radio bad.

Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 02:12 PM (FMlx/)

276 Galileo was anything but fringe. Had friends and supporters in the Vatican.

He was the Fauci of planetary orbit mathemeticians of Renaissance Italy. A vain, backstabbing attention whore.

He didn't get in trouble for heliocentrism. He got in trouble for publically dissing the Pope (an old friend of his ). Sort of like what Fauci and Collins wanted to do to GBD.

Posted by: Hands at December 20, 2021 02:12 PM (786Ro)

277 So I caught part of an interview with Scott Gottlieb the other day. Scattered amidst the talking points he mentioned that he's known Fauci for decades and Fauci has been chasing a universal flu vaccine his whole career. Made me wonder if Fauci was funding the ChiCom research to finally catch ol' Moby Covid before he retired.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at December 20, 2021 02:12 PM (cupoy)

278 188 "Silent Spring" lady

-----

Rachel Carson
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 20, 2021 01:54 PM (2ABQr)

Another eco liar, who has quite a death count on her score from getting DDT banned in tropical areas. But what's a few tens of millions of people from India and Africa when there are eagles under made up threat?

Posted by: Oldcat at December 20, 2021 01:58 PM (eoQWY)


Humanity has survived the extinction of saber-toothed tigers, woolly mammoths, dodo birds, passenger pigeons, and who knows how many species of fish and insects. I am certain humans would survive the extinction of eagles or any other species. Most of our problems today are due to First World nations being so well-fed and wealthy that "feelings" have replaced fighting for survival as the most important thing in the lives of too many people.

Posted by: Gref at December 20, 2021 02:12 PM (AMIL/)

279 They need positive tests because it gives them the excuse to use the " emergency" powers they get off on

Posted by: steevy at December 20, 2021 02:13 PM (CYnTg)

280

His songwriting is horrible. Really fucking bad.

Like Modern Country Radio bad.
Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 02:12 PM (FMlx/)


Your face is a Maserati, and it's looking for a garage......


That's genius.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 02:13 PM (Zz0t1)

281 The science was settled during the building of the Panama Canal when the science said the solution to the ramapant malaria outbreaks was to put all the bed legs in pans of water. So the pesky malaria germs couldn't climb up. Yes, the science was indeed settled.

You know, pans of water, like where mosquitoes breed.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 20, 2021 02:13 PM (njfCw)

282 He can play, though.

Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 02:13 PM (FMlx/)

283 I don't know why, but he went off on Jim, Nurse, Ben Had and a few others, including COBs.

Quite a few of us just quietly walked away for a few hours while it all got sorted out. When we came back, word was he had been banned.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at December 20, 2021 02:03 PM (5p7BC)


Weird. Any link or is it all gone?

Posted by: ... at December 20, 2021 02:13 PM (Jv+hH)

284 For a while, I actually preferred Hagar to say, Ted Nugent.

Baby's on Fire was sooooo overplayed that I got sick of it. And it really hit after I was mostly sick of it--and I was listening to a legit AOR station at the time(!!) (WLAV in Grand Rapids, MI) As Sammy piled up more hits the songs I liked of his got fewer and farther between.

I do like his Heavy Metal soundtrack song, though.
Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2021 02:07 PM (XHhHI)

Appreciate the reply. Understandable even though I disagree with you about Sammy overall. Like Sponge said at 258, Sammy has such a large catalog of stuff that goes way beyond the radio stuff. He is still putting out quality music, IMHO.

Posted by: Doof at December 20, 2021 02:13 PM (mZUr4)

285 272 I remember the first time I heard "The science is settled!" Shouted out by some fat-assed retired state politician at a small meeting. Pig-nosed l'il fucker was talking about Global Warming and dared anyone to challenge him.
Awkward moment.
I just laughed and asked about the scientific method. He was clueless.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 20, 2021 02:12 PM (axyOa)

The SCIENCE is what I say it is, nothing more and nothing less!

Posted by: Dr. H. Dumpty at December 20, 2021 02:13 PM (oHd/0)

286 @BrianDeanWright:

"Turns out Build Back Better will, in fact, cost zero."

http://bitly.ws/kvWX

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at December 20, 2021 02:14 PM (sWM8x)

287 We went down a very bad road when physicians started being employees of healthcare systems.
Posted by: BurtTC

*******

Yep

Posted by: Muldoon at December 20, 2021 02:14 PM (m45I2)

288 >>He is still putting out quality music, IMHO.


Van Hagar

Nobody can recover from that shit.

Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 02:14 PM (FMlx/)

289 Another eco liar, who has quite a death count on her score from getting DDT banned in tropical areas. But what's a few tens of millions of people from India and Africa when there are eagles under made up threat?
Posted by: Oldcat at December 20, 2021 01:58 PM (eoQWY)

Even the bird shell claim was false. It also has emerged Carson knew it was false at the time. Same old, same old. She wanted to stop mass production agriculture and got millions of malaria deaths into the mix, so she saw it as a win. That also was The Science of its time, the common denominator with now being culling the human population 'cause reasons.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 20, 2021 02:14 PM (nMx88)

290 Reading the word "Barrington," my brain reads "Paddington Bear." Maybe that's just me.

Posted by: m at December 20, 2021 02:14 PM (PfCJx)

291 271 It was Utah State v Oregon State. Game was Friday I think

Posted by: steevy at December 20, 2021 02:14 PM (CYnTg)

292 286 @BrianDeanWright:

"Turns out Build Back Better will, in fact, cost zero."

http://bitly.ws/kvWX
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at December 20, 2021 02:14 PM (sWM8x)

========

Government spending is free. Tax cuts cost money.

Freedom is slavery.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, John Ford goes to war at December 20, 2021 02:14 PM (LvTSG)

293 I like a lot of Hagar's solo stuff but Van Hagar and after has been disappointing.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 02:15 PM (KZzsI)

294 Trump could have easily fired Fauci when he "lied" to the public about masks not being helpful. Would have been perfect cover to get out an obvious political operative.

I'll just never understand why Trump would do things like announce at a rally during the campaign that after the election, he might fire Fauci.

Fauci alone has probably cost the US more than the War in Iraq.

Posted by: Blago at December 20, 2021 02:15 PM (PwNLq)

295 It's the everyday medical establishment. This is what has shocked me that my own Dr. I can no longer trust to tell me the truth and what will be the best treatment for what I may or may not have.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 20, 2021 02:12 PM (0st7I)
---
Isn't it "odd" that the party that had been telling you 1) it's your body, and 2) a medical decision should be left up to you and your doctor, have abandoned both those absolutes.

Obamacare was the actual move to takeover "your doctor" though. There are no "private practices" left in America. Every doctor's practice is owned by a hospital. And the government controls the hospital standards--for HEALTH! (A parallel concept of SCIENCE!)

Posted by: Axeman, butthurt at December 20, 2021 02:15 PM (XHhHI)

296 So a few of you know I just bought a new Camaro. Hell of a car, btw.

I started poking around about news regarding the car and found out that next year will be the last year. They are going to retire the brand again, even though sales are great, and it is typically regarded as the best of the 3 American muscle cars (Camaro, Mustang, Challenger).

The brand will go away, then they will bring it back as a 4 door performance electric sedan.

This is a sign of the times, because of the Climate Change bullshit, the auto manufacturers are doing away with gasoline engines and moving to hybrids and electric.

The naturally aspirated V8 in my car is near the pinnacle of performance in engine design, and we as a society are going to abandon it over a hoax.

This makes me very sad.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at December 20, 2021 02:15 PM (5p7BC)

297 Francis Collins is a highly respected professional who was a Fellow at the You've Got A Friend Institute of the the James Taylor School of Public Administration.

Summa Cum Kumbaya

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 20, 2021 02:15 PM (NsE9F)

298 290 Reading the word "Barrington," my brain reads "Paddington Bear." Maybe that's just me.

I think of reefs.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 20, 2021 02:15 PM (njfCw)

299 @BrianDeanWright:

"Turns out Build Back Better will, in fact, cost zero."

http://bitly.ws/kvWX
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at December 20, 2021 02:14 PM (sWM8x)


It's impossible.

You can't take the $4 Trillion you bring in with taxation, spend $7 Trillion and not ADD TO THE DEBT.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 02:15 PM (Zz0t1)

300 I thought that too, but in the Rogan interview with Peter McCullough the Dr. said they do not have anything to do with one another. He was more specific than I can repeat here - not for any reason than I would not be able to recite his specifics from memory.
Posted by: Inogame X-State Lines


Cool. Thanks.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 20, 2021 02:15 PM (uXonU)

301 This is either a wildly funny sick burn by somebody here, or, My God Have Mercy, the Vice President of the United states if functionally retarded, whilst the President is demented. Remind me who is next on succession list?

It's real.
https://youtu.be/UGqJmMu0LnU
Posted by: bonhomme at December 20, 2021 02:09 PM (sG4Hj)
***

Bwahahaha!!!
Abandoned land mines???
Gawd.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 20, 2021 02:15 PM (axyOa)

302 >>So a few of you know I just bought a new Camaro.


Bitchin

Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 02:16 PM (FMlx/)

303 Posting Montrose video's, eh?

https://youtu.be/yxUgW5CLk18

Someone's got their priorities straight.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at December 20, 2021 02:16 PM (SchxB)

304 Proper science is based entirely on the last guy being wrong. Any time someone declares something finished and settled in science its proof they know little to nothing about the discipline.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 02:16 PM (KZzsI)

305 Van Hagar

Nobody can recover from that shit.
Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 02:14 PM (FMlx/)

Saw them live a few times. Disagree with you on this one.

Was bound to happen -- we usually agree on music stuff.

Posted by: Doof at December 20, 2021 02:16 PM (mZUr4)

306 This makes me very sad.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at December 20, 2021 02:15 PM (5p7BC)

Red Barchetta is rather prophetic.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trying not to piss off Krampus at December 20, 2021 02:16 PM (x8Wzq)

307 He was the Fauci of planetary orbit mathemeticians of Renaissance Italy. A vain, backstabbing attention whore.


That's unfair to Galileo, who at least had scientific accomplishments.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 20, 2021 02:17 PM (wmDcS)

308 We are the priests of the temple of Science
Our great computers fill your hallowed halls!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 20, 2021 02:17 PM (njfCw)

309 The naturally aspirated V8 in my car is near the pinnacle of performance in engine design, and we as a society are going to abandon it over a hoax.

This makes me very sad.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at December 20, 2021 02:15 PM (5p7BC)

You betters will still have V8s. Proles will have electric cars so we can't just drive away anymore.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 20, 2021 02:17 PM (eoQWY)

310 Tractor Supply has stock of five different Ivermectin products.

Posted by: creeper at December 20, 2021 02:17 PM (cTCuP)

311 >>Saw them live a few times.


I knew of a couple chicks in college who each got several STDs earning their Backstage Credentials on that OU812 Tour.

Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 02:17 PM (FMlx/)

312 Proper science is based entirely on the last guy being wrong.



Wrong?

Posted by: Sir Isaac Newton at December 20, 2021 02:18 PM (NsE9F)

313 >>So a few of you know I just bought a new Camaro.

Bitchin


https://youtu.be/1v3CzvQ9e_w

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at December 20, 2021 02:18 PM (SchxB)

314
So a few of you know I just bought a new Camaro.

Bitchin
Posted by: garrett

Didja ditch the crocs?
* uncomfortable silence *

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 20, 2021 02:18 PM (q3P4d)

315
Saw them live a few times. Disagree with you on this one.

Was bound to happen -- we usually agree on music stuff.
Posted by: Doof at December 20, 2021 02:16 PM (mZUr4)


You can't blame Sammy for Eddie's decision making.

NOTHING happened with that band that Eddie didn't want to and if it did, he got a new lead.

The Gary Sharone VH is an abomination upon the universe like no other.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 02:18 PM (Zz0t1)

316 Isn't it "odd" that the party that had been telling you 1) it's your body, and 2) a medical decision should be left up to you and your doctor, have abandoned both those absolutes.

Posted by: Axeman, butthurt at December 20, 2021 02:15 PM (XHhHI)

Not when you consider what is happening to the "other" body during said procedure...

Posted by: ... at December 20, 2021 02:18 PM (Jv+hH)

317 The brand will go away, then they will bring it back as a 4 door performance electric sedan.

This is a sign of the times, because of the Climate Change bullshit, the auto manufacturers are doing away with gasoline engines and moving to hybrids and electric.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at December 20, 2021 02:15 PM (5p7BC)

I have been seeing TONS of electric car ads lately. I don't like it.

Posted by: Jordan61 at December 20, 2021 02:18 PM (Ez6QX)

318 298 290 Reading the word "Barrington," my brain reads "Paddington Bear." Maybe that's just me.

I think of reefs.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 20, 2021 02:15 PM (njfCw)

That's great.

Posted by: m at December 20, 2021 02:19 PM (PfCJx)

319 296 So a few of you know I just bought a new Camaro. Hell of a car, btw.

I started poking around about news regarding the car and found out that next year will be the last year. They are going to retire the brand again, even though sales are great, and it is typically regarded as the best of the 3 American muscle cars (Camaro, Mustang, Challenger).

The brand will go away, then they will bring it back as a 4 door performance electric sedan.


could be worse. could be back as a 4 door electric suv.

Posted by: Mustang at December 20, 2021 02:19 PM (sGtp+)

320
Red Barchetta is rather prophetic.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Trying not to piss off Krampus at December 20, 2021 02:16 PM (x8Wzq)

Any song written about a heavy-handed, soulless, dull-gray authoritarian dystopia appears prophetic in our time. So Rush has that all covered, in many songs.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 20, 2021 02:19 PM (2ABQr)

321 When you consider their entire catalog, Van Halen is grossly overrated.

Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 02:19 PM (FMlx/)

322 Weird. Any link or is it all gone?
Posted by: ... at December 20, 2021 02:13 PM (Jv+hH)

From memory:

A few weeks back. Unbanned on a Sunday night. Went off on a "quick hits" post Monday or Tuesday night.

Vaporized on a later thread, but the Quick Hits post still maintained his outbursts, as well as a great takedown by Jim NSD...(bordered on "chemjeff" eloquence).

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at December 20, 2021 02:19 PM (BgMrQ)

323 Gary Cherrone was a good singer and songwriter. Going by the writing, he tried to "dumb himself down" for VH and it did not work. Man, did it ever not work. Wrong guy, period.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 20, 2021 02:19 PM (njfCw)

324 The "political" part of "The Science" is silent.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at December 20, 2021 02:20 PM (iDcra)

325 So a few of you know I just bought a new Camaro. Hell of a car, btw.

I started poking around about news regarding the car and found out that next year will be the last year.

This makes me very sad.
Posted by: Dave in Fla
__

I'm a gear head that loves American muscle and I agree its sad that there's probably only a few years left where you'll be able to buy a new two door car with a V8. Probably all over in like 5 years.

My first car was a 65 Mustang, loved that thing.

Posted by: Blago at December 20, 2021 02:20 PM (PwNLq)

326 The science was settled during the building of the Panama Canal when the science said the solution to the ramapant malaria outbreaks was to put all the bed legs in pans of water. So the pesky malaria germs couldn't climb up. Yes, the science was indeed settled.

You know, pans of water, like where mosquitoes breed.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 20, 2021 02:13 PM (njfCw)

The pans of water was to keep the leaf-cutting ants and other vermin from getting into the beds with the fever patients. At the time all the research showed that mosquitoes were not the vector, as an experimenter had released them in a ward and sat while they fed on him as well and he did not get yellow fever or malaria. He was not aware that the diseases needed time to pass through the mosquitoes system to become infective through the salivary glands.

The French were not smart, but they were not smart because they had evidence.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 20, 2021 02:20 PM (ZMraq)

327 Red Barchetta is rather prophetic.

From a better, vanished time.

The more the big 3 move to electric and hybrid, the more small companies making gas burners will prosper. The demand for actual gas powered cars is much, much bigger than for electric, even if they manage to get the price down.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 02:20 PM (KZzsI)

328 Vaporized on a later thread, but the Quick Hits post still maintained his outbursts, as well as a great takedown by Jim NSD...(bordered on "chemjeff" eloquence).
Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at December 20, 2021 02:19 PM (BgMrQ)

Thanks browndog.

Posted by: ... at December 20, 2021 02:20 PM (Jv+hH)

329 There aren't enough rails to ride these fucking assholes out of town on.

There isn't enough tar and feathers for them.

I reserve the word 'hate' for a very very few people in this world, and I absolutely HATE Fauci and the rest of his corrupt coterie of cunts that have done their level best to demolish this country over the last two years.

They should be loaded into a trebuchet and flung into the fucking ocean to the cheers of the assembled crowd.

Posted by: ballistic at December 20, 2021 02:20 PM (oXNqT)

330 Tami never met an animal she did not love. In lieu of flowers, please consider making a gift in Tami's name to Stray Rescue of St. Louis (https://www.strayrescue.org/).

from here obit

Posted by: crockpot stew at December 20, 2021 02:20 PM (oSX/P)

331 @Techno_Fog

This is significant.

Special Counsel John Durham:

The 2016 Hillary Clinton Presidential Campaign and its employees are currently subject to "matters" before the Special Counsel.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 20, 2021 02:20 PM (ZLI7S)

332 276 Galileo was anything but fringe. Had friends and supporters in the Vatican.

He was the Fauci of planetary orbit mathemeticians of Renaissance Italy. A vain, backstabbing attention whore.

He didn't get in trouble for heliocentrism. He got in trouble for publically dissing the Pope (an old friend of his ). Sort of like what Fauci and Collins wanted to do to GBD.
Posted by: Hands at December 20, 2021 02:12 PM (786Ro)

Galileo should have stayed in his lane. Make the observation about the heliocentric solar system, but don't publicly extrapolate and draw theological conclusions from that; let the clergy do that. Oh, and act incredibly obnoxiously toward the Church, which was your patron in said research.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 20, 2021 02:20 PM (hgzYo)

333 309 The naturally aspirated V8 in my car is near the pinnacle of performance in engine design, and we as a society are going to abandon it over a hoax.

This makes me very sad.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at December 20, 2021 02:15 PM (5p7BC)

You betters will still have V8s.

indeed.

Posted by: More than Mildly Annoyed Max at December 20, 2021 02:20 PM (v3pYe)

334 304 Proper science is based entirely on the last guy being wrong. Any time someone declares something finished and settled in science its proof they know little to nothing about the discipline.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 02:16 PM (KZzsI)

The "science" changes when the last adherents of the old doctrine die off.

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at December 20, 2021 02:21 PM (BgMrQ)

335 Gary Cherrone was a good singer and songwriter. Going by the writing, he tried to "dumb himself down" for VH and it did not work. Man, did it ever not work. Wrong guy, period.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 20, 2021 02:19 PM (njfCw)


I actually thought his voice was the worst thing about him.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 02:21 PM (Zz0t1)

336 did not get malaria from the mosquitoes that fed on the active malaria patients I meant

Posted by: Kindltot at December 20, 2021 02:21 PM (ZMraq)

337
Isn't a landmine designed to be abandoned?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 20, 2021 02:21 PM (q3P4d)

338 I really am jealous of the Moron Robbie in the timeline where people understand that science is nothing more than a series of steps to make a determination about something.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - 5-11 year old vaccine formulation was not tested, clinical studies 'not required' at December 20, 2021 02:21 PM (aqun+)

339 If we were a healthier society, or even a moderately free one, we might have Drs. Fauci and Bhattacharya hold a public debate on which approach to Covid has and should work best.

Posted by: Zek at December 20, 2021 02:22 PM (OzNIz)

340 I actually thought his voice was the worst thing about him.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 02:21 PM (Zz0t1)

On top of all its other problems, that album was a horribly produced sonic mess. They did his voice no favors.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 20, 2021 02:22 PM (njfCw)

341 I AM SCIENCE

Posted by: Anthony Fauci, pure scientist at December 20, 2021 02:22 PM (DU+/6)

342 I'm left wondering if the pickup that I'm thinking of buying should be gasoline or diesel, because they might not ban diesel for a bit longer compared to gasoline since it is needed for industrial operations that can't be replaced with electric motors. Of course, they might just make it illegal for the plebs to buy diesel anyway, so it might be a moot point.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 20, 2021 02:22 PM (cSs/W)

343 I disagree.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 02:11 PM (Zz0t1)
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As do I.

He tells Janet Reno "Kiss my ass".

Actually, there are quite a good number of Ted songs that are quality. Most of his 1975 release and Free-for-all was quality, quality tuneage.

Ted has a point-of-view which makes him compelling as a lyricist.

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2021 02:22 PM (XHhHI)

344 Galileo should have stayed in his lane. Make the observation about the heliocentric solar system, but don't publicly extrapolate and draw theological conclusions from that; let the clergy do that. Oh, and act incredibly obnoxiously toward the Church, which was your patron in said research.

And the church should have stayed in its lane. Make theological observations but don't publicly declare on science based on your theories from the Bible. Oh, and don't act incredibly obnoxious toward people who disagree with you or vary in their ideas.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 02:22 PM (KZzsI)

345 >>Isn't a landmine designed to be abandoned?


Landmines are just a scam to sell expensive signage.

Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 02:22 PM (FMlx/)

346 327 The more the big 3 move to electric and hybrid, the more small companies making gas burners will prosper. The demand for actual gas powered cars is much, much bigger than for electric, even if they manage to get the price down.

it's silly that the small companies think that will be allowed.

Posted by: California Air Resources Board at December 20, 2021 02:22 PM (sGtp+)

347 I AM SCIENCE
Posted by: Anthony Fauci, pure scientist at December 20, 2021 02:22 PM

Bitch, please...I know more than you do.

Posted by: Dr. Science at December 20, 2021 02:23 PM (m+jkK)

348 We're basically going from reliable NA V8's to turbo engines that will have major longevity issues all to save like 1 mpg to hit some Obama CAFE standard.

Same with auto start/stop, I absolutely HATE that feature on cars.

Posted by: Blago at December 20, 2021 02:23 PM (PwNLq)

349 @Techno_Fog

This is significant.

Special Counsel John Durham:

The 2016 Hillary Clinton Presidential Campaign and its employees are currently subject to "matters" before the Special Counsel.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 20, 2021 02:20 PM (ZLI7S)
++++
Yup, it sure is. There will be dire consequences. Trust me.

Posted by: Kevin Clinesmith at December 20, 2021 02:23 PM (DU+/6)

350 The name Malaria comes from Mal (bad) Aria (air)

Malaria came from the air. As it was found in the stinks and bogs and swamps that was easy to believe.

Correlation is not causation. Most times. but sometimes it is.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 20, 2021 02:23 PM (0st7I)

351 And the church should have stayed in its lane. Make theological observations but don't publicly declare on science based on your theories from the Bible. Oh, and don't act incredibly obnoxious toward people who disagree with you or vary in their ideas.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 02:22 PM (KZzsI)

Touche.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 20, 2021 02:23 PM (hgzYo)

352 I AM SCIENCE
Posted by: Anthony Fauci, pure scientist at December 20, 2021 02:22 PM (DU+/6)
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My understanding is that Anthony Fauci is a process of generations of genetic breeding to dispence Science on the spot.

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2021 02:23 PM (XHhHI)

353 OT.

How do I know the Salvation Army is now working with Team Woke?

In Google, "Salvation Army cont" auto completes to nonsense like "... Contract details", "... Containers", "... Containers near me", and "... control", not "Salvation Army Controversy"

On bing, the second selection for "Salvation Army Co" is "Salvation Army Controversy"

Posted by: Chuck C at December 20, 2021 02:23 PM (EughT)

354 The more the big 3 move to electric and hybrid, the more small companies making gas burners will prosper. The demand for actual gas powered cars is much, much bigger than for electric, even if they manage to get the price down.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 02:20 PM (KZzsI)

Especially since hybrid seems like the ideal real world compromise - use electric where you can and have the gas available for when you need it. Electrics will have real issues as our power grid dies away due to the same bullshit eco policies as are forcing all electric cars.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 20, 2021 02:24 PM (eoQWY)

355 When you consider their entire catalog, Van Halen is grossly overrated.
Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 02:19 PM (FMlx/)

The David Lee Roth era of VH is one of the best cover bands ever

Posted by: Doof at December 20, 2021 02:24 PM (mZUr4)

356 The naturally aspirated V8 in my car is near the pinnacle of performance in engine design, and we as a society are going to abandon it over a hoax.

**

Imagine how good it would be without all the emissions controls that add weight and manufacturing costs that completely offset any "savings".

Also that rip roaring V8 would probably get 50mpg with modern engine technology. 100mpg+ would be easily doable with small four cylinders.

But we're saving the planet or something.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - 5-11 year old vaccine formulation was not tested, clinical studies 'not required' at December 20, 2021 02:24 PM (aqun+)

357 347 I AM SCIENCE
Posted by: Anthony Fauci, pure scientist at December 20, 2021 02:22 PM

Bitch, please...I know more than you do.
Posted by: Dr. Science at December 20, 2021 02:23 PM (m+jkK)

Fuck all y'all...

Posted by: Mr. Wizard at December 20, 2021 02:24 PM (BgMrQ)

358
I can't hear "Stranglehold" without bursting into laughter.

I have an ex who thought the words are "I've got to strangle old ladies." I hear that every time, and will until I go all Brandon.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 20, 2021 02:24 PM (2ABQr)

359 I'm left wondering if the pickup that I'm thinking of buying should be gasoline or diesel, because they might not ban diesel for a bit longer compared to gasoline since it is needed for industrial operations that can't be replaced with electric motors. Of course, they might just make it illegal for the plebs to buy diesel anyway, so it might be a moot point.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 20, 2021 02:22 PM (cSs/W)
++++
All diesel is red diesel. You're using it for agriculture or you're in an approved vehicle with a transponder. If your approved vehicle is on the road, fine. If your unapproved or transponderless vehicle is on the road, off to gulag with you...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 20, 2021 02:24 PM (DU+/6)

360 Isn't a landmine designed to be abandoned?

Landmines are just a scam to sell expensive signage.
Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 02:22 PM (FMlx/)


Plus not overly effective unless covered by direct or indirect fires.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 20, 2021 02:24 PM (axyOa)

361 As do I.

He tells Janet Reno "Kiss my ass".

Actually, there are quite a good number of Ted songs that are quality. Most of his 1975 release and Free-for-all was quality, quality tuneage.

Ted has a point-of-view which makes him compelling as a lyricist.


Wang Dang Sweet Poontang.

Posted by: Busted Can of Biscuits at December 20, 2021 02:25 PM (2cfUo)

362 The more the big 3 move to electric and hybrid, the more small companies making gas burners will prosper. The demand for actual gas powered cars is much, much bigger than for electric, even if they manage to get the price down.

it's silly that the small companies think that will be allowed.
Posted by: California Air Resources Board

You can't be a small operator and get a gas powered engine emissions certified, at least not something a middle class person can afford. Even Ferrari and Lamborghini will probably be forced into electric vehicles eventually.

But you're going to see a shit load of smaller Chinese companies making electric cars.

Posted by: Blago at December 20, 2021 02:25 PM (PwNLq)

363 Galileo should have stayed in his lane. Make the observation about the heliocentric solar system, but don't publicly extrapolate and draw theological conclusions from that; let the clergy do that. Oh, and act incredibly obnoxiously toward the Church, which was your patron in said research.
---
Or he could have avoided naming the mouthpiece of the Church "Simplicio".

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2021 02:25 PM (XHhHI)

364 The brand will go away, then they will bring it back as a 4 door performance electric sedan.


could be worse. could be back as a 4 door electric suv.
Posted by: Mustang at December 20, 2021 02:19 PM (sGtp+)

That E-Stang isn't bad looking, guy down the block has one.
Just for the life of me I don't understand why they called it a Mustang? There has to be a host of other nameplates available.
I'm not in the market for an electric or even a hybrid, but if I had a lease as part of my compensation package I would consider it. Not something I'd personally own outright due to replacement battery costs.

Posted by: Inogame X-State Lines at December 20, 2021 02:25 PM (53oGX)

365 Same with auto start/stop, I absolutely HATE that feature on cars.

**

I almost suspect that you think starters might require energy and emissions to produce, ship, and install after premature wear.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - 5-11 year old vaccine formulation was not tested, clinical studies 'not required' at December 20, 2021 02:25 PM (aqun+)

366 As do I.

He tells Janet Reno "Kiss my ass".

Actually, there are quite a good number of Ted songs that are quality. Most of his 1975 release and Free-for-all was quality, quality tuneage.

Ted has a point-of-view which makes him compelling as a lyricist.
Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2021 02:22 PM (XHhHI)


He did a show once where he started out way back behind the crowd and they revealed a big image of Osama bin Laden on the stage. He whipped out his compound bow, fired up a flaming arrow and shot it, bullseye.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 02:25 PM (Zz0t1)

367 If Kamala wants to go out and root up land mines, she has my full support.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at December 20, 2021 02:26 PM (HmZuC)

368 Steve was attacked for re-posting some silly comparison of Stormy to Stelter, near the first of an Ace's open thread.That was the catalyst. Then it all went downhill, Steve took it all personally and ppl were socking themselves to advocate his banning. Sad for all involved, IMO. Steve said something very disrespectful about a COB and that was the end.

Posted by: EveR at December 20, 2021 02:26 PM (4dsGu)

369 Galileo also had no mechanism to explain heliocentrism. No one did. "Eppui se muove"

Posted by: Kindltot at December 20, 2021 02:26 PM (ZMraq)

370 This slender redhead is enjoying her coffee and contemplating just how miserable a monster Anthony Fauci and the other practitioners of Scienceism are:
https://is.gd/Wt73uV

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 20, 2021 02:26 PM (DU+/6)

371 The more the big 3 move to electric and hybrid, the more small companies making gas burners will prosper. The demand for actual gas powered cars is much, much bigger than for electric, even if they manage to get the price down.

it's silly that the small companies think that will be allowed.
Posted by: California Air Resources Board at December 20, 2021 02:22 PM (sGtp+)

Think CA just banned those - those proles in front of the fires the power company triggers can't have a chance when we cut their power due to fires.

Next they will jam AM and FM radio

Posted by: Oldcat at December 20, 2021 02:26 PM (eoQWY)

372 >>The David Lee Roth era of VH is one of the best cover bands ever


Yes.
And it is still hard to get through all of their LPs without lifting a needle or hitting 'Next'.
I almost never listen to anything but full LPs and I almost never reach for a VH LP.

Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 02:26 PM (FMlx/)

373
That E-Stang isn't bad looking, guy down the block has one.
Just for the life of me I don't understand why they called it a Mustang?

**

Because very few people want the car already. They are desperately trying to connect it with something people like.

Same as the Mitsubishi Eclipse SUV that I saw the other day. Utter absurdity.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - 5-11 year old vaccine formulation was not tested, clinical studies 'not required' at December 20, 2021 02:26 PM (aqun+)

374 Ted has a point-of-view which makes him compelling as a lyricist.

Wang Dang Sweet Poontang.
Posted by: Busted Can of Biscuits at December 20, 2021 02:25 PM (2cfUo)

That's a hit, I can tell a mile away...

Posted by: Zombie Stephen Sondheim at December 20, 2021 02:26 PM (BgMrQ)

375 Nugent hasn't really put anything good out since Damn Yankees, but I still like the guy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 02:26 PM (KZzsI)

376
That E-Stang isn't bad looking, guy down the block has one.
Just for the life of me I don't understand why they called it a Mustang? There has to be a host of other nameplates available.
I'm not in the market for an electric or even a hybrid, but if I had a lease as part of my compensation package I would consider it. Not something I'd personally own outright due to replacement battery costs.
Posted by: Inogame X-State Lines at December 20, 2021 02:25 PM (53oGX)


Yeah. Being a Ford and Mustang fan, that one offended me. It's an Edge with the 3 bar tail lights.

Call it the Edge Power E or some shit. Don't defame the Mustang brand like that.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 02:27 PM (Zz0t1)

377 Shortly after forming Damn Yankees, Tommy Shaw made a demo on a keyboard and played it for Jack Blades, who told him, that sounds like a hit but you can't play it for Ted that way. He detests keyboards. He won't even listen to it and will probably throw it out the window or shoot it.

Shaw redid the demo and later said that after getting to know Nugent better, Blades was absolutely right. And the song was a hit.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at December 20, 2021 02:27 PM (njfCw)

378 I'm left wondering if the pickup that I'm thinking of buying should be gasoline or diesel, because they might not ban diesel for a bit longer compared to gasoline since it is needed for industrial operations that can't be replaced with electric motors. Of course, they might just make it illegal for the plebs to buy diesel anyway, so it might be a moot point.

The problem I am seeing, is due to reduced natural gas production, or whatever production is being consumed by natgas power plants to make up for wind, is the production of urea which, in commercial production requires a lot of natgas to make.

Urea, is used in fertilizers, and in diesel fuel to be NOx compliant. Lots of trucks will stop dead the moment their urea tanks are empty because a dead truck and a stranded load is better than NOx. (sigh)

Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 20, 2021 02:28 PM (+LCoQ)

379 The demand for actual gas powered cars is much, much bigger than for electric, even if they manage to get the price down.

**

Posted before, but California, where conditions and mindsets are perfect, can't break 4% of total vehicle sales.

People don't want them. That's why they are moving on to doing it with guns.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - 5-11 year old vaccine formulation was not tested, clinical studies 'not required' at December 20, 2021 02:28 PM (aqun+)

380 I'm left wondering if the pickup that I'm thinking of buying should be gasoline or diesel, because they might not ban diesel for a bit longer compared to gasoline since it is needed for industrial operations that can't be replaced with electric motors. Of course, they might just make it illegal for the plebs to buy diesel anyway, so it might be a moot point.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen

Modern diesels are a complicated mess to meet emissions.

The sound advice I've heard is you only go with diesel if your vehicle makes you money for your job and you really need it.

Sometimes you just need diesel for towing, but otherwise, I don't think the cost savings are there anymore.

Posted by: Blago at December 20, 2021 02:28 PM (PwNLq)

381 370 This slender redhead is enjoying her coffee and contemplating just how miserable a monster Anthony Fauci and the other practitioners of Scienceism are:
https://is.gd/Wt73uV
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)


Wow! She's....pleasant.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 20, 2021 02:28 PM (sAmhv)

382 I AM SCIENCE
Posted by: Anthony Fauci, pure scientist at December 20, 2021 02:22 PM

Bitch, please...I know more than you do.
Posted by: Dr. Science at December 20, 2021 02:23 PM (m+jkK)

Fuck all y'all...
Posted by: Mr. Wizard at December 20, 2021 02:24 PM (BgMrQ)


Pikers.

Posted by: Bill Nye - THE Science Guy at December 20, 2021 02:28 PM (Zz0t1)

383 I'm a "fringe" epidemiologist.

Ok I worked for a dept. of Epidemiology > 29 years ago. Enough >29 that I need spell check for Epidemiology now.

Posted by: DaveA at December 20, 2021 02:29 PM (FhXTo)

384 Kind of odd watching the Jimminy Kimmel Memorial Football Game. I enjoyed it less than something.

Posted by: klaftern at December 20, 2021 02:29 PM (taPSh)

385 Yeah. Being a Ford and Mustang fan, that one offended me. It's an Edge with the 3 bar tail lights.

Call it the Edge Power E or some shit. Don't defame the Mustang brand like that.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 02:27 PM (Zz0t1)

Its the skinsuit all over again. Take away the essence and force you to call it by the same name. Very 1984 with the words leaving the language.

Posted by: Oldcat at December 20, 2021 02:29 PM (eoQWY)

386 316 Isn't it "odd" that the party that had been telling you 1) it's your body, and 2) a medical decision should be left up to you and your doctor, have abandoned both those absolutes.

Posted by: Axeman, butthurt at December 20, 2021 02:15 PM (XHhHI)

Not when you consider what is happening to the "other" body during said procedure...

Posted by: ... at December 20, 2021 02:18 PM (Jv+hH)


Actualy, abortion insanity is driven by too many women voters saying, "It's MY body, so I get to do what I want with it." With COVID, too many women are saying, "It's MY body, so I get to tell YOU what to do to protect MY body." (If a sizeable majority of women want COVID theater ended, it would end etty damned quickly.)

Abortion and COVID insanity are two sides of the same coin: To protect my body (or my freedom to use my body as I wish), everyone must do or not do as I say, no matter who else gets hurt.

Posted by: Gref at December 20, 2021 02:29 PM (AMIL/)

387 Did you get an 8 cylinder Camaro?

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 20, 2021 02:29 PM (ONvIw)

388 I can just see Ted Nugent pulling out a large caliber revolver and blasting a demo tape....

Posted by: steevy at December 20, 2021 02:29 PM (CYnTg)

389 383 I'm a "fringe" epidemiologist.

Ok I worked for a dept. of Epidemiology > 29 years ago. Enough >29 that I need spell check for Epidemiology now.

Posted by: DaveA at December 20, 2021 02:29 PM (FhXTo)

Ha!

Posted by: m at December 20, 2021 02:29 PM (PfCJx)

390 Red hair and a retrousse nose Very pretty youngster

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 02:30 PM (KZzsI)

391 The Big 3 (esp. GM) are doing the same thing they did to trolleys after wwii.

They had a campaign going on that dissed the trolleycar systems that were all over the place even in small towns that would hook up to larger towns and their continent spanning railroads.

Even my small town of about 2000 at the time had a trolley car. Because they were cheap equipment and cheap to run. Some rails and a wire overhead. No stink no belch of black smoke. but GM wanted to sell diesel buses to the cities. So they went after the trolley car.

Trouble was they were expensive and small towns couldn't convert so their trolleys died. Trolleys are a very efficient mode of transport. So people had to buy cars and eventually so many cars were sold that the bus lines faltered and died and now there are no connections between small towns. the only way to travel is by car. And the larger electric trains are even more expensive to run and maintain.

This will be the undoing of California I'm pretty sure. They do not nor will they have the infrastructure in place for all the electric vehicles that they will need. Also electric delivery vans are very expensive to run. (more)

Posted by: jakee308 at December 20, 2021 02:30 PM (0st7I)

392 As has been said, virology, epidemiology, and to a large extent, science as we knew it, no longer exist, they have been replaced with pure political science and agitprop in the service of fascism and globalist interests.

Or alternatively...

A cadre of people, Industrial Wood Chippers, Feet First, some assembly required.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 20, 2021 02:30 PM (Pxkfv)

393 The David Lee Roth era of VH is one of the best cover bands ever

Posted by: Doof
===

I rate this as true. The sum was more than its parts.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at December 20, 2021 02:30 PM (iDcra)

394 I would bring her the coffee in bed so she wouldn't have to get up...

Posted by: steevy at December 20, 2021 02:31 PM (CYnTg)

395 I almost never listen to anything but full LPs and I almost never reach for a VH LP.
Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 02:26 PM (FMlx/)

You're a throwback for sure, garrett. Listening to full LPs on vinyl and playing pinball. Activities "from a better vanished time", to quote a great song mentioned above.

Posted by: Doof at December 20, 2021 02:31 PM (mZUr4)

396 371:Next they will jam AM and FM radio


Will they finally do something about those damn chemtrails.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 20, 2021 02:31 PM (sAmhv)

397 Jay Bhattacharya

He should change his name to Jay Batts.

Posted by: JT at December 20, 2021 02:31 PM (arJlL)

398 Maybe the reason Pfizer didn't want to release their COVID vaccine data is because they started their vaccine research long before December 2019?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 20, 2021 02:31 PM (NsE9F)

399 I'm a gear head that loves American muscle and I agree its sad that there's probably only a few years left where you'll be able to buy a new two door car with a V8. Probably all over in like 5 years.

My first car was a 65 Mustang, loved that thing.
Posted by: Blago at December 20, 2021

***
Except for the Mustang, Challenger, and Camaro, and some ultra-expensive coupes from BMW, Audi, and MB, it's almost impossible to find a big coupe from any manufacturer. Yeah, Fiat has its little 500, and Alfa has one, etc. But American cars? Gone are the days when you could buy a Coupe de Ville, an Impala Super Sport, or an Electra 225 in a 2-dr.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 20, 2021 02:31 PM (txdEq)

400 >> I'm a "fringe" epidemiologist.


Me too. Well. The Fringe part.

Posted by: Neil Diamond at December 20, 2021 02:31 PM (FMlx/)

401 400

Posted by: m at December 20, 2021 02:31 PM (PfCJx)

402 Speaking of cars.
Yesterday was a good day. I pulled out the BMW. A 330 convertible. 2005 but only 40k miles. Still does 0-60 in very few seconds. I love it!!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 20, 2021 02:31 PM (axyOa)

403 Nuremberg 2.0, followed by quick hangings, is the only just path for all the deaths, suffering, and mad hack experiments conducted on non-consenting test subjects that they caused.

Posted by: flounder at December 20, 2021 02:32 PM (SH2Zi)

404

The more the big 3 move to electric and hybrid, the more small companies making gas burners will prosper. The demand for actual gas powered cars is much, much bigger than for electric, even if they manage to get the price down.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 02:20 PM (KZzsI)

I'd love to have a Duesenberg.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 20, 2021 02:32 PM (Fs5vw)

405 People keep predicting the end of the gas powered car and I giggle at that like the silicon valley idiots who keep predicting the end of the PC. That's not happening any time soon.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 02:32 PM (KZzsI)

406 I'm a gear head that loves American muscle and I agree its sad that there's probably only a few years left where you'll be able to buy a new two door car with a V8. Probably all over in like 5 years.

My first car was a 65 Mustang, loved that thing.
Posted by: Blago at December 20, 2021

I'm surprised they still make the 8 cylinder camaros.

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 20, 2021 02:33 PM (ONvIw)

407 This will be the undoing of California I'm pretty sure. They do not nor will they have the infrastructure in place for all the electric vehicles that they will need. Also electric delivery vans are very expensive to run. (more)

Posted by: jakee308
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Is feature not bug comrade. No cars, less freedom is current democommunist five year plan for glorious future and the future will be glorious. GLORIOUS!!!

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at December 20, 2021 02:33 PM (iDcra)

408 395 I almost never listen to anything but full LPs and I almost never reach for a VH LP.




What are you people? On dope?

Posted by: Mr. Hand at December 20, 2021 02:33 PM (NsE9F)

409 >The sound advice I've heard is you only go with diesel if your vehicle makes you money for your job and you really need it.

Sometimes you just need diesel for towing, but otherwise, I don't think the cost savings are there anymore.

Posted by: Blago at December 20, 2021 02:28 PM (PwNLq)

Thanks. Towing would be a function of this vehicle, but I have no familiarity with owing a diesel, so not sure if I want to start now at the ripe old age of 29.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 20, 2021 02:33 PM (cSs/W)

410 (cont) Small electric vehicles are not efficient deliverers of small to medium weight goods. Plus there will be a lot of down time for charging OR the company will need to vehicles for every one now as they will have to be charging one while the other works.

Some people don't have the infrastructure in their home wiring to setup the chargers. Plus think of the load when it hits every evening between 5pm to mid early morning. Plus with them outlawing nat. Gas where will they get that electricity?

They are letting their wishes drive their decisions without a thought to consequences.

Posted by: jakee308 at December 20, 2021 02:33 PM (0st7I)

411 Fellow Americans fell hook, line and sinker for this statist Fauci and Collins self-serving bullshit. I wonder how a country can hold together under those circumstances.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at December 20, 2021 02:33 PM (/ss76)

412 This slender redhead is enjoying her coffee and contemplating just how miserable a monster Anthony Fauci and the other practitioners of Scienceism are:
https://is.gd/Wt73uV

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 20, 2021 02:26 PM (DU+/6)

You can feel your soul being sucked out by the second.

Posted by: flounder at December 20, 2021 02:33 PM (SH2Zi)

413 I think it was *about* Cat Scratch Fever that Nugent started to make the turn into a caricature of himself. But even on that album, Death by Misadventure and Working Hard, Playin' Hard are the ones that I can remember as just solid tunes.

But he had a comeback in 1982 that was just a solid album of songs. Tailgunner is the standout.

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2021 02:34 PM (XHhHI)

414 My first car was a 65 Mustang, loved that thing.
Posted by: Blago at December 20, 2021
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My first was VW Bug I bought for $300 but my second car was 67 Mustang Fastback.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at December 20, 2021 02:35 PM (iDcra)

415 I'd love to have a Pierce-Arrow.
The ones with a 12 cylinder engine and wheels that come up to your shoulders.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at December 20, 2021 02:35 PM (jTmQV)

416 I'm a "fringe" epidemiologist.
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Yeah. Yeah. Me too.

Posted by: Dr. Gonzo at December 20, 2021 02:35 PM (XHhHI)

417 Mayor Muriel Bowser
@MayorBowser
1h
After using a rapid at-home test, residents must report their results to DC Health at http://coronavirus.dc.gov/overthecounter
Posted by: m at December 20, 2021 01:36 PM (PfCJx)

God help DC if 4Chan decides to launch a denial of service using the DC phonebook and agency employee lists
Posted by: Kindltot at December 20, 2021 02:10 PM (ZMraq)

that would be lovely. i would absolutely bathe in the glorious righteousness of 4chan submitting positive test results for ALL fed govt employees in and around DC...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at December 20, 2021 02:35 PM (8D42x)

418
Why, you'd almost think they WANT all those swarthy third worlders dead or something.

Almost.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 20, 2021 02:01 PM (c8sog)


The thing is, they've been pretty open about their death wish for hordes of brown/black/yellow/non-Aryan people for decades.

Pull up Ehrlich's book The Population Bomb sometime. In the first chapter, he talked about the eureka moment when he realized that overpopulation was a thing. He was walking through some city in India despairing about the "sea of brown faces" in his way. That phrase stuck with me ever since.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 20, 2021 02:35 PM (n+4am)

419 ===
My first was VW Bug I bought for $300 but my second car was 67 Mustang Fastback.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at December 20, 2021 02:35 PM (iDcra)


That's a significant upgrade.

The Bug should be banished to the dust heap of history.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 02:35 PM (Zz0t1)

420 People keep predicting the end of the gas powered car and I giggle at that like the silicon valley idiots who keep predicting the end of the PC. That's not happening any time soon.


I agree. I defy all of the Greenie Weenies to explain, if tomorrow, we go 100 percent to electric cars, how the hell are we going to charge all of them?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 20, 2021 02:35 PM (NsE9F)

421 The left always operates on the philosophy of never letting a crisis go to waste and if you don't have a crisis you create it.

That Fauci has been financing Wuhan means that anything coming out of China regarding COVID is a joint effort. The people dying in the streets of Wuhan is a Hollywood production to create the crisis.

Once you have spooked the world you are in the clear and can declare any and every death as a COVID death. And voila! you have a crisis, now run with it.

The WEF members are the real winners here and can do whatever they want, there are no restrictions of any kind on them. They fly wherever and whenever they want in their private jets. They party wherever and whenever they want without masks or vaccines.

No matter what they say or how they preen for the cameras, I do not believe that any of the WEF crowd got anything but saline in their injections.

Posted by: President Select Decaf at December 20, 2021 02:35 PM (SRmHu)

422 Also that rip roaring V8 would probably get 50mpg with modern engine technology. 100mpg+ would be easily doable with small four cylinders.

Power, efficiency or low emissions. Pick one.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 20, 2021 02:35 PM (+LCoQ)

423 The nannying features on my latest vehicle would make Mary Poppins blush. Total joke.

Posted by: ... at December 20, 2021 02:35 PM (Jv+hH)

424 People keep predicting the end of the gas powered car and I giggle at that like the silicon valley idiots who keep predicting the end of the PC. That's not happening any time soon.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

**

They don't have to ban gas powered cars. They just have to make gas $20/gallon.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - 5-11 year old vaccine formulation was not tested, clinical studies 'not required' at December 20, 2021 02:36 PM (aqun+)

425 >Next they will jam AM and FM radio
Posted by: Oldcat at December 20, 2021 02:26 PM (eoQWY)

They seem to want to change the AM band to have digital modulation, which is dumb as hell for multiple reasons. I mean, it's not like you can even claim that the AM band is full and you need to squeeze more throughput in the same bandwidth.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 20, 2021 02:36 PM (cSs/W)

426 Yesterday was a good day. I pulled out the BMW. A 330 convertible. 2005 but only 40k miles. Still does 0-60 in very few seconds. I love it!!
Posted by: Diogenes at December 20, 2021

***
I enjoyed driving my 2015 3 Series. It had the additional charm of getting the best gas mileage I've ever known, albeit on premium, in a car with 240 hp. Amazing.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 20, 2021 02:36 PM (txdEq)

427 >>You can feel your soul being sucked out by the second.


I think that's what's in the mug.

Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 02:37 PM (FMlx/)

428 This slender redhead is enjoying her coffee ...before she logs into her Instagram account and gets suckers pay to look at her pictures and fantasize that they have a real relationship with her.

She is pretty, however.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 20, 2021 02:37 PM (KBCaU)

429 joint effort

Posted by: President Select Decaf at December 20, 2021 02:35 PM (SRmHu)

Bingo. NOBODY gets as lucky as the Democrats got in 2020. Not even in the movies.

Posted by: ... at December 20, 2021 02:37 PM (Jv+hH)

430 The Bug should be banished to the dust heap of history.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 02:35 PM (Zz0t1)

You didn't at least enjoy the awesome sounds of the tweeter muffler?

Posted by: Doof at December 20, 2021 02:37 PM (mZUr4)

431 What are you people? On dope?

Well, since you mentioned it: https://youtu.be/XJDQFLLdZ_k

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at December 20, 2021 02:37 PM (SchxB)

432 Modern diesels are a complicated mess to meet emissions.

Posted by: Blago at December 20, 2021 02:28 PM

This. And couple it to the looming DEF shortage.

https://tinyurl.com/2p97adhd

Posted by: Bert G at December 20, 2021 02:37 PM (AvN9S)

433 The Big 3 (esp. GM) are doing the same thing they did to trolleys after wwii.

But if we keep the trolleys, how can I make a fortune on restaurants serving rapidly prepared food?

Posted by: Judge Doom at December 20, 2021 02:37 PM (EughT)

434
I agree. I defy all of the Greenie Weenies to explain, if tomorrow, we go 100 percent to electric cars, how the hell are we going to charge all of them?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 20, 2021 02:35 PM (NsE9F)


They already KNOW there isn't enough lithium on EARTH for the batteries to do that. We don't have the infrastructure to handle the load for charging said batteries and CHINA owns the majority of the lithium mines.

This is all just another ruse to get China to take over the world, because the fucking idiots in the WEF think they'll still be in power.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 02:37 PM (Zz0t1)

435 Some people don't have the infrastructure in their home wiring to setup the chargers. Plus think of the load when it hits every evening between 5pm to mid early morning. Plus with them outlawing nat. Gas where will they get that electricity?

They are letting their wishes drive their decisions without a thought to consequences.

**

I'm genuinely excited about watching Section 8 housing tackle this problem.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - 5-11 year old vaccine formulation was not tested, clinical studies 'not required' at December 20, 2021 02:37 PM (aqun+)

436 Fauci is "THE lying dog-faced pony soldier"

Posted by: SMOD at December 20, 2021 02:38 PM (RHGPo)

437 Imagine how good it would be without all the emissions controls that add weight and manufacturing costs that completely offset any "savings".

Also that rip roaring V8 would probably get 50mpg with modern engine technology. 100mpg+ would be easily doable with small four cylinders.

...Posted by: Moron Robbie

This is just wrong.

Posted by: DaveA at December 20, 2021 02:38 PM (FhXTo)

438 You can feel your soul being sucked out by the second.


You must be wearing Crocs.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 20, 2021 02:38 PM (uXonU)

439 Fuck Fauci and his boyfriend Collins.

Assholes.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 20, 2021 02:38 PM (w9H27)

440 Moron Bleg!!!

If any of you are electrical repair types or handymen,

A stove of our crapped out and I need to get a circuit breaker change from a 30amp to a 40 amp.

What is involved and what should the charges be?

I looked online and it doesn't seem like it'd be a hard thing to do, but I rarely do electrical stuff unless it's super simple. This place I called sounds like they're talking about rerunning the wiring which doesn't sound necessary to me.

Anyway, put me some knowledge.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 20, 2021 02:38 PM (5NkmN)

441 > Nuremberg 2.0, followed by quick hangings, is the only just path for all the deaths, suffering, and mad hack experiments conducted on non-consenting test subjects that they caused.

The thing about getting a Nuremburg trial is that you have to win a war against the bad guys first.

Posted by: me at December 20, 2021 02:38 PM (9p+wn)

442 Did you get an 8 cylinder Camaro?
Posted by: CN...FJB
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Yes. I have the 2SS convertible.

It is ... impressive.

Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at December 20, 2021 02:38 PM (5p7BC)

443 423 The nannying features on my latest vehicle would make Mary Poppins blush. Total joke.
Posted by: ... at December 20, 2021 02:35 PM (Jv+hH)

But what about her piercing?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 20, 2021 02:38 PM (BoOUn)

444 I think he's talking about serious all time towing.

The strength and durability of gas engines is superior to any in history and they have made diesels less economical.

You can buy a 5.0 V8 in a F-150 It comes with a ten speed automatic and a choice of several rear end ratios.

Posted by: Braenyard, Prince of El Salvador pooped on the Big Guy at December 20, 2021 02:38 PM (/FocL)

445 The left: You don't have the right to get me sick!

Also the left: Yes we decriminalized knowingly giving someone AIDS, why do you ask?

Posted by: 18-1 at December 20, 2021 02:38 PM (ESjRY)

446 The Tubes are a very weird, interesting band. Some great songs but their lead singer was so crazed and odd he sunk the band. Like performing naked.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 02:39 PM (KZzsI)

447 >Nuremberg 2.0, followed by quick hangings, is the only just path for all the deaths, suffering, and mad hack experiments conducted on non-consenting test subjects that they caused.
Posted by: flounder at December 20, 2021 02:32 PM (SH2Zi)

"Nuremberg Code doesn't apply to us, because we're the Good Guys, and not Nazis."

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 20, 2021 02:39 PM (cSs/W)

448 Some people don't have the infrastructure in their home wiring to setup the chargers. Plus think of the load when it hits every evening between 5pm to mid early morning. Plus with them outlawing nat. Gas where will they get that electricity?

They are letting their wishes drive their decisions without a thought to consequences.



It's almost like they don't understand science.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 20, 2021 02:39 PM (uXonU)

449 ----------
Yes. I have the 2SS convertible.

It is ... impressive.
Posted by: Dave in Fla (fC3dn) at December 20, 2021 02:38 PM (5p7BC)

I'm glad. Drive it in the best of health

Posted by: CN...FJB at December 20, 2021 02:39 PM (ONvIw)

450 BabylonBee: White House Sends Out Christmas Cards With Heartfelt Message, 'You Will Get Sick And Die This Winter'

Posted by: SMOD at December 20, 2021 02:40 PM (RHGPo)

451 Sometimes you just need diesel for towing, but otherwise, I don't think the cost savings are there anymore.

They are not. I run an F-250 for rv towing. But its not THAT much more expensive. Fuel is about a quarter a gallon more, and I get about 1.5 MPG less. 5K mile services run $75 more. Cost of DEF is negligible.

Repairs cost more - but I generally need less of them per 100K miles. And you can run over more protesters before you high center. Best truck I've owned.

Posted by: Mr. Obvious at December 20, 2021 02:40 PM (Wux4A)

452 Honda CVCCs in the 80s were getting 50 mpg, its not the emissions stuff that's the main criminal, its the safety requirements. You can't make a little bitty car that weighs 7 pounds any more.

My brother literally lifted the front end of a LeCar out of a ditch when it went off road once. Those little cars weighed nothing and were turned into a ball of wadded up tin foil in an accident. But you could drive them forever on the fumes in the gas tank.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 02:40 PM (KZzsI)

453 Well, since you mentioned it: https://youtu.be/XJDQFLLdZ_k

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries.



LMAO.

But. Three days detention.

Posted by: Mr. Hand at December 20, 2021 02:40 PM (NsE9F)

454 I enjoyed driving my 2015 3 Series. It had the additional charm of getting the best gas mileage I've ever known, albeit on premium, in a car with 240 hp. Amazing.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 20, 2021 02:36 PM (txdEq)

On the highway, if I keep it under 80, I get about 27mpg. Sweet!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 20, 2021 02:41 PM (axyOa)

455 They don't care if YOU can get anywhere with an electric car. In fact they prefer you don't. Less traffic.

Posted by: ... at December 20, 2021 02:41 PM (Jv+hH)

456 The David Lee Roth era of VH is one of the best cover bands ever
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Not to mention one of the most varied hard rock bands.

And that was a good part Dave's contribution. He got Eddie interested in acoustic blues, swing, and big band.

And I don't think any band at the time could beat the hard-edge of Atomic Punk and On Fire.

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2021 02:41 PM (XHhHI)

457 Maybe already mentioned, but RFK Jr says Fauci used orphaned kids in New York as lab rats for experimental AIDS drugs and killed and secretly buried about 80.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 20, 2021 02:41 PM (H8QX8)

458 428 This slender redhead is enjoying her coffee ...before she logs into her Instagram account and gets suckers pay to look at her pictures and fantasize that they have a real relationship with her.

She is pretty, however.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 20, 2021 02:37 PM (KBCaU)

Fen...so cynical, except for the "pretty" part.

Posted by: Zombie Stephen Sondheim at December 20, 2021 02:41 PM (BgMrQ)

459 LMAO.

But. Three days detention.

Spicoli was right about you.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at December 20, 2021 02:41 PM (SchxB)

460 What is involved and what should the charges be?

I looked online and it doesn't seem like it'd be a hard thing to do, but I rarely do electrical stuff unless it's super simple. This place I called sounds like they're talking about rerunning the wiring which doesn't sound necessary to me.

Anyway, put me some knowledge.
Posted by: naturalfake

Changing out a circuit breaker from 30 amp to 40 amp. No need to re-run wire.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 20, 2021 02:41 PM (uXonU)

461 When you consider their entire catalog, Van Halen is grossly overrated.
Posted by: garrett at December 20, 2021 02:19 PM (FMlx/)

I'd say the same for Aerosmith.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 20, 2021 02:41 PM (2JVJo)

462 A stove of our crapped out and I need to get a circuit breaker change from a 30amp to a 40 amp.

What is involved and what should the charges be?

I looked online and it doesn't seem like it'd be a hard thing to do, but I rarely do electrical stuff unless it's super simple. This place I called sounds like they're talking about rerunning the wiring which doesn't sound necessary to me.

Anyway, put me some knowledge.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 20, 2021 02:38 PM (5NkmN)

VERY much just a DIY guy here, not a trained electrician. But I think the biggest issue is the need for 8 gauge wiring for 40 amp circuits vice 10 gauge wiring for 30 amp service.

In other words, your existing wiring behind the walls for 30 amp service probably can't handle the increased electrical load for 40 amp circuits.

Posted by: Doof at December 20, 2021 02:42 PM (mZUr4)

463 >I agree. I defy all of the Greenie Weenies to explain, if tomorrow, we go 100 percent to electric cars, how the hell are we going to charge all of them?
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at December 20, 2021 02:35 PM (NsE9F)

You're not intended to have a personal vehicle. The current push is a wedge to get you used to having less. You'll live in a pod, eat bugs, be in the "Metaverse" all day, and take public transport the few times a year you are allowed out. Sounds like a healthy lifestyle, eh?

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 20, 2021 02:42 PM (cSs/W)

464 Sometimes you just need diesel for towing, but otherwise, I don't think the cost savings are there anymore.

I remember well in the Carter years when gas went up by like 300% people started buying diesel cars. Why? Because diesel was like half the price.

Response of oil companies: RAISE THE PRICE OF DIESEL. Its never gone down again.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 02:42 PM (KZzsI)

465 12 This slender redhead is enjoying her coffee and contemplating just how miserable a monster Anthony Fauci and the other practitioners of Scienceism are:
https://is.gd/Wt73uV

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 20, 2021 02:26 PM (DU+/6)


For every beautiful woman you see, there's some guy that's gotten tired of fucking her.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 20, 2021 02:42 PM (Fs5vw)

466 212 These left wing "scientists" are no better than the squad. The are fascists with fancy educations

=====

Degrees, not educations. They can't independently think their way out of a paper bag.

Posted by: Blind Roscoe McGee at December 20, 2021 02:42 PM (vted1)

467 Did you get an 8 cylinder Camaro?
Posted by: CN...FJB
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Yes. I have the 2SS convertible.

It is ... impressive.

Fiat Dodge is getting out of the V8 Hemi business, rumor is the replacement will be a bi-turbo V6. (yawn)

So much for the Hellcat, and the Jeep Grand Cherokee equivalent.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 20, 2021 02:42 PM (+LCoQ)

468 Doctors in the late 40s: Here is a code of ethics that will make sure we don't repeat the mistakes of the NAZIs.

Politicians in the late 40s: That's great and all, but seriously, no one will ever do this crap again. So...don't worry about it.

Politicians in the 20s: We really dodged a bullet on that whole don't be a NAZI thing. Anyway, remember vaccine macht frei!

Doctors in the 20s: Yes sir. Time to follow orders!

Posted by: 18-1 at December 20, 2021 02:42 PM (ESjRY)

469 This is just wrong.
Posted by: DaveA

*

Sure, if you ignore MPG in the 80s and that we are essentially performing exactly the same currently.

Countering added weight and neutering of safety and emissions has been the focus, not MPG.

The neat part is that all of that negates itself, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - 5-11 year old vaccine formulation was not tested, clinical studies 'not required' at December 20, 2021 02:42 PM (aqun+)

470 My first car was also a VW. A '59. 36 screaming ponies in back! Great car.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 20, 2021 02:42 PM (axyOa)

471 Some people don't have the infrastructure in their home wiring to setup the chargers. Plus think of the load when it hits every evening between 5pm to mid early morning. Plus with them outlawing nat. Gas where will they get that electricity?
===

Here in communist Utopia of Kalifornia, ads for not using electricity between hours of 5pm to 10pm to make us more green. Nobody ever said commies were smart just ruthless.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at December 20, 2021 02:43 PM (iDcra)

472 I ran across some Mariah Carey Christmas special from last year on YT.

Didn't they air that smack dab in the middle of the "don't sing because pandemic" era?

Posted by: ... at December 20, 2021 02:43 PM (Jv+hH)

473 /off dead Broadway guy sock

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at December 20, 2021 02:43 PM (BgMrQ)

474 The Challenger is a 2011 with 58k miles. I will die with its key fob in my hand and not because of its appetite for gas but for its utter lack of connectivity. Look, ma, no internet. Ergo, no tracking.

Posted by: creeper at December 20, 2021 02:43 PM (cTCuP)

475 They don't have to ban gas powered cars. They just have to make gas $20/gallon.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - 5-11 year old vaccine formulation was not tested, clinical studies 'not required'

They don't have to ban guns. They just have to make ammo $50 a box.

Wait, what?

Posted by: Joe Mama at December 20, 2021 02:43 PM (WmGrA)

476 Also the left: Yes we decriminalized knowingly giving someone AIDS, why do you ask?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 20, 2021 02:38 PM (ESjRY)
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Also, take care with all the murderers we're putting back on the street hours after we arrest them for their previous murder.

It's not like you can catch murder from them!

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2021 02:43 PM (XHhHI)

477 I'd say the same for Aerosmith.

Aerosmith is tough to judge based on its career, because they have done some truly astounding great stuff, and some awful stuff, and then just cheesy pop stuff.

Its like Chicago: they were awesome, until they weren't. But you can't judge them overall for their whole career because it changed so much.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 02:44 PM (KZzsI)

478 RFK Jr says Fauci used orphaned kids in New York as lab rats for experimental AIDS drugs and killed and secretly buried about 80.

It originally came from another journalist who wrote a book ago it...15 years ago?

The FNM line, BTW, is those kids were gonna die anyway, good for Fauci for "trying to save them"

Posted by: 18-1 at December 20, 2021 02:44 PM (ESjRY)

479 463 You're not intended to have a personal vehicle. The current push is a wedge to get you used to having less. You'll live in a pod, eat bugs, be in the "Metaverse" all day, and take public transport the few times a year you are allowed out. Sounds like a healthy lifestyle, eh?

could be, if you get all your boosters and wear your mask. skipping a booster or wearing your mask under your nose voids your warranty. offer void in california.

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at December 20, 2021 02:44 PM (sGtp+)

480 and fantasize that they have a real relationship with her.

She is pretty, however.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 20, 2021 02:37 PM (KBCaU)

Relationship?

Posted by: ... at December 20, 2021 02:44 PM (Jv+hH)

481 The Tubes are a very weird, interesting band. Some great songs but their lead singer was so crazed and odd he sunk the band. Like performing naked.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 02:39 PM (KZzsI)

Fee Waybill. I think a poster on here knows the dude.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 20, 2021 02:44 PM (w9H27)

482
So much for the Hellcat, and the Jeep Grand Cherokee equivalent.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 20, 2021 02:42 PM (+LCoQ)


yeah, those are gone next year.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 02:44 PM (Zz0t1)

483 I would like to see an audit of Fauci and find out where his money is coming from.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at December 20, 2021 02:44 PM (5kI0z)

484 Aerosmith is tough to judge based on its career, because they have done some truly astounding great stuff, and some awful stuff, and then just cheesy pop stuff.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 02:44 PM (KZzsI)

You also just described The Beatles

Posted by: Doof at December 20, 2021 02:45 PM (mZUr4)

485 A stove of our crapped out and I need to get a circuit breaker change from a 30amp to a 40 amp. ...This place I called sounds like they're talking about rerunning the wiring which doesn't sound necessary to me.

Anyway, put me some knowledge.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 20, 2021 02:38 PM

Hint: There are different gauges of wire. Wire that can carry 30 amps may melt or catch fire if that wire carries 40 amps.

Posted by: Chuck C at December 20, 2021 02:46 PM (EughT)

486 I just can't stand Steven Tyler.

The guy banged a 14 year old and got her an abortion. And he cast his own daughter for a lesbian romp with Alicia Silverstone in one of his music videos.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 20, 2021 02:46 PM (ESjRY)

487 not because of its appetite for gas but for its utter lack of connectivity. Look, ma, no internet. Ergo, no tracking.

Yeah that concerns me a great deal. They're not gonna make the gas car go away, but they will make you part of the grid and Big Brother will be watching and controlling you constantly.

You're driving too fast, we're limiting your speed. You're driving the wrong places, we're shutting you off. You posted the wrong thing on social media, we're bricking your engine.

Evergreen
https://youtu.be/GhvzMGDzt70

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 02:46 PM (KZzsI)

488 471 Here in communist Utopia of Kalifornia, ads for not using electricity between hours of 5pm to 10pm to make us more green.

sce sent me spam saying they're going to switch me to a time-of-use billing plan unless i grovel.

Posted by: Kulak Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at December 20, 2021 02:46 PM (sGtp+)

489 If you don't know traffic in Soviet Russia was minimal and pretty much restricted to high level government kommissars. This is what the democrats want. Commies got to commie.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at December 20, 2021 02:46 PM (iDcra)

490 Islam is also too important to debate.

The only difference between the modern left and Islam are the gods they worship.

Posted by: Lrrr at December 20, 2021 02:47 PM (jIL4c)

491 Nood. It's foggy.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at December 20, 2021 02:47 PM (IJES/)

492 Response of oil companies: RAISE THE PRICE OF DIESEL. Its never gone down again.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 02:42 PM (KZzsI)
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No.
Oil companies did not raise the price of diesel the US government did.

Your tax dollars at waste.

Posted by: Braenyard, Prince of El Salvador pooped on the Big Guy at December 20, 2021 02:47 PM (/FocL)

493 484 Aerosmith is tough to judge based on its career, because they have done some truly astounding great stuff, and some awful stuff, and then just cheesy pop stuff.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 02:44 PM (KZzsI)

You also just described The Beatles
Posted by: Doof at December 20, 2021 02:45 PM (mZUr4)

And David Bowie.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 20, 2021 02:47 PM (BoOUn)

494 This filthy fostback movie looks like it's filled with manly man goodness. (And I don't see a single POC in this trailer.)

https://youtu.be/oMSdFM12hOw

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 20, 2021 02:47 PM (FVME7)

495 >>And he cast his own daughter for a lesbian romp with Alicia Silverstone in one of his music videos.

Well, nobody's perfect.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 20, 2021 02:47 PM (ZLI7S)

496
Hint: There are different gauges of wire. Wire that can carry 30 amps may melt or catch fire if that wire carries 40 amps.
Posted by: Chuck C at December 20, 2021 02:46 PM (EughT)


Knowing full well that they overrate everything, meaning when they 'require' wire to be a specific gauge to carry an amperage, you can violate it, safely in most cases.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 02:47 PM (Zz0t1)

497 You also just described The Beatles

I agree. I like some of their stuff, think other parts are wildly overrated, and a bunch is just fun pop stuff like Wings. The people who annoy me are the ones that worship the band like it was the GREATEST MUSIC IN HUMAN HISTORY MADE BY GODS

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 02:48 PM (KZzsI)

498 Seriously. Nood.
http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=397026

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at December 20, 2021 02:48 PM (IJES/)

499 You also just described The Beatles
Posted by: Doof at December 20, 2021 02:45 PM (mZUr4)

And David Bowie.
Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at December 20, 2021 02:47 PM (BoOUn)


And The Rolling Stones.

Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 02:48 PM (Zz0t1)

500 316 Isn't it "odd" that the party that had been telling you 1) it's your body, and 2) a medical decision should be left up to you and your doctor, have abandoned both those absolutes.

Posted by: Axeman, butthurt at December 20, 2021 02:15 PM (XHhHI)

Not when you consider what is happening to the "other" body during said procedure...

Posted by: ... at December 20, 2021 02:18 PM (Jv+hH)


The end goal of the Greenie-Weenies is a massive reduction of all passenger cars. "You say you can't go to work because your EV isn't charged enough? Ride one of city's electric buses, and sell your personal EV!" "You say you cannot go on long trips with your EV? Sell it and join the nationwide EV rental plan! Rent an EV near your home and exchange it for a fully charged one every 250 miles until you get to your destination!"

Posted by: Gref at December 20, 2021 02:48 PM (AMIL/)

501 Nood.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at December 20, 2021 02:48 PM (khAeP)

502 I'd say the same for Aerosmith.

Aerosmith is tough to judge based on its career, because they have done some truly astounding great stuff, and some awful stuff, and then just cheesy pop stuff.

Its like Chicago: they were awesome, until they weren't. But you can't judge them overall for their whole career because it changed so much.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 02:44 PM (KZzsI)
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I think Draw the Line is literally a good place to stop with Aerosmith. Although, I really like Lightning Strikes off of 1982's Rock in a Hard Place.

Posted by: Axeman at December 20, 2021 02:48 PM (XHhHI)

503
Fiat Dodge is getting out of the V8 Hemi business, rumor is the replacement will be a bi-turbo V6. (yawn)

So much for the Hellcat, and the Jeep Grand Cherokee equivalent.
Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 20, 2021 02:42 PM (+LCoQ)


I have a twin-turbo V6 in my Ford Explorer. Best engine I've ever run. And yes, it still surprises me about that.

Posted by: Pork Chops & Bacons at December 20, 2021 02:49 PM (Fs5vw)

504 A stove of our crapped out and I need to get a circuit breaker change from a 30amp to a 40 amp. ...This place I called sounds like they're talking about rerunning the wiring which doesn't sound necessary to me.

Anyway, put me some knowledge.
Posted by: naturalfake at December 20, 2021 02:38 PM

Hint: There are different gauges of wire. Wire that can carry 30 amps may melt or catch fire if that wire carries 40 amps.

Posted by: Chuck C
===

Circuit breakers (& fuses) protect the wire to the device, so the wire doesn't become the fuse. Other devices protect appliances like motor overloads protect the motor.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at December 20, 2021 02:49 PM (iDcra)

505 Science priests is a good analogy. They say what "The Science" is and dissent is anathema. It is so antithetical to actual science, which looks for dissenting and negative findings zealously, alternative theories are examined on their merits not their pedigree.

Posted by: mikethemoose at December 20, 2021 02:49 PM (T/vhV)

506 480 and fantasize that they have a real relationship with her.

She is pretty, however.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 20, 2021 02:37 PM (KBCaU)
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They are pawns of the devil.

at best

Posted by: Braenyard, Prince of El Salvador pooped on the Big Guy at December 20, 2021 02:49 PM (/FocL)

507 What they are doing with smaller engines these days is truly amazing, but it almost always heavily relies on turbos which are their own sort of problem.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 02:50 PM (KZzsI)

508 VERY much just a DIY guy here, not a trained electrician. But I think the biggest issue is the need for 8 gauge wiring for 40 amp circuits vice 10 gauge wiring for 30 amp service.

In other words, your existing wiring behind the walls for 30 amp service probably can't handle the increased electrical load for 40 amp circuits.
Posted by: Doof


1st question is why? Why the need for 40 amp vs 30 amp? Pretty much ALL non-commercial homeowner stuff is standard. Stoves, hot water heaters, dryers, etc.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 20, 2021 02:50 PM (uXonU)

509 Knowing full well that they overrate everything, meaning when they 'require' wire to be a specific gauge to carry an amperage, you can violate it, safely in most cases.
Posted by: Sponge - Saying Jackson Sparks at December 20, 2021 02:47 PM

And if you happen to not be in "most cases" and the insurance company decides to not pay?

Posted by: Chuck C at December 20, 2021 02:50 PM (EughT)

510
The people who annoy me are the ones that worship the band like it was the GREATEST MUSIC IN HUMAN HISTORY MADE BY GODS
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 20, 2021 02:48 PM (KZzsI)


You've been reading too much of Ed Driscoll's shit at Insty...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 20, 2021 02:51 PM (n+4am)

511 All of us down at the Brattleboro Women's Reproductive Health Center thinks that guy Jim Manchum fro West Virginia to resign immediately for lying to Presdent Bidum.
This guy is hurting persins of color and must be removed immediately from the Senate. We calls on Present Obama to to do something about this racist guy.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at December 20, 2021 02:52 PM (otFiP)

512 Sponge, do no harm.

Posted by: Hippocrates at December 20, 2021 02:52 PM (ufFY8)

513 Maybe the reason Pfizer didn't want to release their COVID vaccine data is because they started their vaccine research long before December 2019?
-----------------
I think they've been working on it, unsuccessfully, since 2015.

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at December 20, 2021 02:53 PM (UHVv4)

514 Willowed that I just have to comment on:

"This whole OP was planned BEFORE Trump got in office

Someone pointed out that Hillary was supposed to be in office, and we're supposed to be a lot more like Australia right now.

Posted by: Moron Robbie"

Me: If Hillary Clinton had been elected in 2016, nobody would ever have heard of CoVid19. The DemonRats and our Administrative State are so closely tied to the ChiComs that this Op was hatched by them in concert. Coronavirus has always been nothing but a bad cold.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 20, 2021 02:55 PM (/7aTk)

515 OK you bastards made me pull out my NFPA which is more machine tool related and it says:

10 AWG in a raceway is 30 AMPS.
8 AWG in a raceway is 40 AMPS.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at December 20, 2021 02:56 PM (iDcra)

516 I was in the market for a commuter car as my new job is not in a place I can take the commuter train any longer.
Needed to get good gas mileage as I'm putting on about 60-65 a day. I also tend to hold cars a while so I want something that can rack up miles as well.
Chose an Audi A6 TDI, one of the last of the Volkswagon dieselgate cars.
I've averaged 35 mpg since my purchase in June, and it's not an econobox. The 3 liter Diesel motor should outlast the body panels.
On top of that the diesel gate extended warrantee will be in effect until 2026.

Posted by: Inogame X-State Lines at December 20, 2021 02:57 PM (53oGX)

517 Thanks to all who replied.

It appears I'm getting some 8 gauge wiring.

Knowledge has been put.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 20, 2021 02:58 PM (5NkmN)

518 325

When I was 10, I so wanted a 64 Mustang....
Still do

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 20, 2021 03:19 PM (t0714)

519 515 Depends how many current-carrying conductors in that raceway and at what ambient temperature
That's NEC
and that doesn't consider conductor length for voltage drop

Posted by: MAxIE at December 20, 2021 03:26 PM (dVkJu)

520 477

When I was a kid, Aerosmith, before they were known, practiced in an old hardware store sinking into a swamp in my town.
Us kids would sneak down there to listen from outside...till shoes got muddy....

Posted by: COMountainMarie at December 20, 2021 03:27 PM (t0714)

521 Israel has stopped all flights from the USA because of omni covid

Posted by: Kurt at December 20, 2021 03:44 PM (r5oTq)

522 Kurt has stopped all flights from rational reality because he's a omni-troll

Posted by: Hands at December 20, 2021 03:53 PM (786Ro)

523 71 Every day I can't wait until Fauci burns in Hell
Posted by: Skip's Phone at December 20, 2021 01:34 PM (dUKrz)

I'm not picky. I'll take burning in an outhouse or even a 1973 Ford Pinto.
----
With imagination and some effort, that outcome could surely be arranged?

Posted by: Ciampino at December 20, 2021 03:59 PM (qfLjt)

524 316 Isn't it "odd" that the party that had been telling you 1) it's your body, and 2) a medical decision should be left up to you and your doctor, have abandoned both those absolutes.

Posted by: Axeman, butthurt at December 20, 2021 02:15 PM (XHhHI)
-----
These are probably the same people that are against GMA foods 'because, you know, genes, etc.'

Posted by: Ciampino at December 20, 2021 04:14 PM (qfLjt)

525 At what point do we tell Fauci and Francis to screw off? When do they and their underlings go to jail and expelled from the medical profession?

Seriously, Fauci is nothing but a totalitarian apparatchik, the new Lysenko. And no one will stop him until he's useless to the cause (tm)

Posted by: Xavier Basora at December 20, 2021 04:37 PM (HZCl6)

526 One would think that an enterprising journalist would dig into the motivation of Fauci/Collins in using Wired and The Nation pieces to refute epidemiologists from Harvard/Oxford/Stanford (could it be that the COVID virus came out of the US-funded research? Hmm?).

But our media wholly lacks any bit of intellectual curiosity whatsoever. Not to mention lacking the intellectual ability to understand the issue in the first place....

Posted by: pikkumatti at December 20, 2021 05:03 PM (vjH93)

527 243 I was banned for months for accidentally posting on a dead thread. Just posted from time to time with my phone until my IP address changed LOL
----
What is the phobia about posting to dead threads?
Other posting sites are able to block posting to old threads.

Posted by: Ciampino at December 20, 2021 05:14 PM (qfLjt)

528 263 Anthony Fauci, the Komodo dragon of the 'medical' world.
----
Does he have really bad halitosis and poisonous, germ laden saliva?
(NB I wouldn't be surprised)

Posted by: Ciampino at December 20, 2021 05:23 PM (qfLjt)

529 435 Some people don't have the infrastructure in their home wiring to setup the chargers. Plus think of the load when it hits every evening between 5pm to mid early morning. Plus with them outlawing nat. Gas where will they get that electricity?

They are letting their wishes drive their decisions without a thought to consequences.

**

I'm genuinely excited about watching Section 8 housing tackle this problem.
------
LOL - that is funny even if unintended.

Posted by: Ciampino at December 20, 2021 06:02 PM (qfLjt)

530 497 You also just described The Beatles

I agree. I like some of their stuff, think other parts are wildly overrated, and a bunch is just fun pop stuff like Wings. The people who annoy me are the ones that worship the band like it was the GREATEST MUSIC IN HUMAN HISTORY MADE BY GODS.
-------
If you want to feel old? Someone online said, 'Back in the 70's I overheard a group of young girls telling each other in a record store upon picking up a Beatles album, " Oh look. Paul McCartney was in another band before Wings"'

Posted by: Ciampino at December 20, 2021 06:30 PM (qfLjt)

531 Just watching the expressions of fake bewilderment from Collins during his interview with Fox last Sunday is enough to let you know what kind of a-hole he actually is. Yuck.

Posted by: FatAlbert at December 21, 2021 03:06 AM (5LFjM)

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