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First-World Problems...

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Is there some immutable law of nature that mandates that propane tanks run out of fuel exactly when replacing them is maximally difficult and disruptive?

And I am not even talking about not having a full tank available...I learned my lesson a long time ago when I had 10 people for dinner and I had to change the main course on the fly when the propane gremlins emptied the tank behind my back.

No, I am referring to the perfectly inconvenient time for the tank to run out of gas...after you turn the grill on to preheat and just as you want to start cooking. Obviously the tanks have minds of their own, or the gremlins are particularly cranky in my neck of the woods.

And I was so flustered I overcooked the clod petite filets I found at the market...but more about that anon.

Yes. Sometimes it is a struggle, but we all must soldier on!

Posted by: CBD at 02:00 PM




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1 Boom

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2021 02:00 PM (2JoB8)

2 first.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 05, 2021 02:01 PM (bVYXr)

3 Last few years have a spare tank, but 1 is old kind and isn't supposed to be refilled.

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2021 02:02 PM (2JoB8)

4 I have two extra propane tanks on standby just for occasions like this. Never run out.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 05, 2021 02:02 PM (bVYXr)

5 Gas!
Pull my finger.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2021 02:02 PM (axyOa)

6 Propane and propane accessories!
/Hank Hill

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 05, 2021 02:02 PM (bWyp6)

7 Is there some immutable law of nature that mandates that propane tanks run out of fuel exactly when replacing them is maximally difficult and disruptive?


==

HAHAHAHA!

Posted by: Big Charcoal at December 05, 2021 02:03 PM (V13WU)

8 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Shirt Wearing Member of the Ashli Babbitt Society at December 05, 2021 02:03 PM (Zz0t1)

9 Finished many a meal started on grill inside

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2021 02:03 PM (2JoB8)

10 Willowed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY6X_603MMc

1961 Corvair Rampside Truck

Huh. That could be really useful for certain things. That hump in the bed would be a pain.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 05, 2021 02:03 PM (csEWM)

11 Last few years have a spare tank, but 1 is old kind and isn't supposed to be refilled.

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2021 02:02 PM


SIL just sold their house and brought us three propane tanks to store for them until they get a new place. One of them is the old style that can't be used any longer and it's full. No idea if you can get that shoved into a new tank.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 05, 2021 02:03 PM (bVYXr)

12 ==

HAHAHAHA!
Posted by: Big Charcoal at December 05, 2021 02:03 PM (V13WU)



Thread winner.

Posted by: Sponge - Shirt Wearing Member of the Ashli Babbitt Society at December 05, 2021 02:04 PM (Zz0t1)

13 Hobos are exothermic. Just sayin'.

Posted by: t-bird at December 05, 2021 02:05 PM (oBAbT)

14 Willowed,

what's the deal with Corolla's upper lip in that new sidebar video? Ok, I guess it's a shadow. He should use different lighting. Someone should tell him this.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 05, 2021 02:06 PM (XXeDg)

15 I think you can still hookup to the old style valve. You just can't get them refilled.

Posted by: Ronster at December 05, 2021 02:06 PM (P4Ujk)

16 CBD I always check the tank (by weight, the little gauge I have to insert 'tween line and tank wasn't always that accurate) before any grilling of substantial length or complexity. On T-giving, checked, and switched out for the full 2nd tank before the 3ish-hour smoke/roast of the turkey breast.

Thinking of getting a third tank. Earthquake cooking.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 05, 2021 02:07 PM (OTzUX)

17 You could always use charcoal, like civilized people do.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at December 05, 2021 02:07 PM (eKvjl)

18 Is there some immutable law of nature that mandates that propane tanks run out of fuel exactly when replacing them is maximally difficult and disruptive?

Yes, it also governs POTATUS meeting the Pope.

Posted by: The White House at December 05, 2021 02:07 PM (DMQdU)

19 FWIW I've noticed that my stored propane tanks will lose their charge over time... especially when it's very cold. They're refills, so the tanks and valves themselves are probably not the best.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 05, 2021 02:08 PM (BFigT)

20 thanks for the reminder i need to get my two tanks swapped out.

nothing worse than grilling (in my case, twas chicken) and running out when they have about 10 minutes left.

it's like playing just the tip.

Posted by: Jack Burton, not a member of the Ram Ranch at December 05, 2021 02:08 PM (/hsff)

21 Hook up two tanks with a two tank regulator valve.

It will automatically switch to the full tank, you turn the valve to the full tank and at your convenience fill the empty tank.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 05, 2021 02:09 PM (I9jxh)

22 Not familiar with old vs. new connection types, but I think the tanks have a certification that lasts 12 years, after which they need to be tested/re-certified/disposed of, or whatever the process is. Stamped on the steel collar on top.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 05, 2021 02:09 PM (OTzUX)

23 4 ways to estimate how much propane you have left

https://tinyurl.com/yckwu8sn

Posted by: Gref at December 05, 2021 02:10 PM (AMIL/)

24 This is no different to one's cats getting sick on a Friday evening or the weekend when the vet is closed.

Posted by: Ciampino at December 05, 2021 02:10 PM (qfLjt)

25 One option is use the non refill tank as only spare, when mine is empty will probably get a second tank.

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2021 02:10 PM (2JoB8)

26 I stopped using gas grills a couple years ago. It's a bigger pain in the ass, but things just taste better on charcoal (to me, anyway; YMMV). I still have a number of propane bottles on hand, though, as my generator is a dual-fuel model and I can keep a propane bottle connected all the time and not have to worry about gasoline going bad.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 05, 2021 02:11 PM (lNHqD)

27 One could put a pressure gauge on the tank ... or one could lift it and gauge its fullness by the perception of its weight ... or one could simply preemptively change it out ...

A selection of First, Second, or Third World solutions for your delectation, CBD.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 05, 2021 02:11 PM (a3Q+t)

28 If you buy a cheap weber, or even just stack a couple cinder blocks and put a grate over them, you can cook food with this wonderful new invention called fire. And get this, the fuel for fire grows on trees! Money in the bank right there.

Posted by: Sjg at December 05, 2021 02:11 PM (gDSJf)

29 Throw warm water on the side of the tank and view the frost line. There's your propane.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 05, 2021 02:11 PM (I9jxh)

30 Not familiar with old vs. new connection types, but I think the tanks have a certification that lasts 12 years, after which they need to be tested/re-certified/disposed of, or whatever the process is. Stamped on the steel collar on top.
Posted by: rhomboid


And testing costs as much, if not more than a new tank. New 20 lb tank at Sam's is right around $30.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2021 02:11 PM (uXonU)

31 When you are upset by predictable things?

The Universe tends towards the Perverse. Murphy's laws are Natural Laws, not made up by Congress.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2021 02:11 PM (oHd/0)

32 AMAZON - AP Products 1212.13 024-1000 Tank Check LP with Monitor Kit

Posted by: Paul B at December 05, 2021 02:11 PM (h3dw9)

33 Charcoal.

The end.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at December 05, 2021 02:12 PM (TU8Tj)

34
Not original to me:After 5 years of trying to get Tucker Carlson fired, it's Chris Cuomo that got the boot.

My adaptation of another one: "The doom-laden curtain of 'certain firings' is always descending upon conservative commentators, but landing instead on leftist commentators."

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 05, 2021 02:13 PM (3l5Yq)

35 No sympathy for Mr. Dildo on this one, it appears.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 05, 2021 02:13 PM (a3Q+t)

36 a. k. a. "the reason we keep a spare tank out in the garage".

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (03BbD) at December 05, 2021 02:13 PM (03BbD)

37
You butchered a clod? What was the clod's name?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 05, 2021 02:14 PM (3l5Yq)

38 My Weber gas grill had a little measuring thingie I hung the tank on so I knew how much propane I had. Not terribly difficult to manage.

Unless you're a dildo.

Posted by: nurse ratched at December 05, 2021 02:14 PM (U2p+3)

39 Thinking of getting a third tank. Earthquake cooking.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 05, 2021 02:07 PM (OTzUX)

I have three tanks, and a fourth empty that is too old to be refilled by a reputable propane dealer.

The issue is when the gas runs out. I don't want to start swapping "almost empty" tanks just to be sure.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2021 02:14 PM (Q9lwr)

40 These things happen when you open the martini bar before you get the entree suitably prepped.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 05, 2021 02:15 PM (BPuaD)

41 Just use all-natural friction to cook your food. Any reasonably excited 14 year old boy can hump a frozen turkey to a dull cherry red in a couple of minutes.

Posted by: normal at December 05, 2021 02:16 PM (obo9H)

42 I'm perfectly fine with suffering 1st world problems.

Life should ALWAYS be so easy..

Posted by: irongrampa at December 05, 2021 02:16 PM (KATBx)

43 Afternoon all. Back from the dead. Dropped to the deck right about end of work day on Friday. Was running a 103 - 104 temp at various times Friday night and Saturday. Got up late Saturday night and was feeling better. Showered. Went back to sleep. Got up this morning feeling 100% better than Friday night. Never lost taste or smell. Just took a 15 minute Covid test for work = Negative.

We used to have 24 hour bugs before Covid.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2021 02:17 PM (uXonU)

44 The issue is when the gas runs out. I don't want to start swapping "almost empty" tanks just to be sure.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at


See: #21

Posted by: Braenyard at December 05, 2021 02:17 PM (I9jxh)

45 31 When you are upset by predictable things?

The Universe tends towards the Perverse. Murphy's laws are Natural Laws, not made up by Congress.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 05, 2021 02:11 PM (oHd/0)


Murphy's Second Law:
If it cannot go wrong, it will.

Posted by: Gref at December 05, 2021 02:17 PM (AMIL/)

46 I have two propane tanks with one on the grill and the other filled and sitting in the garage. I also have a pellet grill and a fair supply of pellets. Our heat is propane and I've often thought about having the gas grill plumbed so it uses the gas from that instead of those refillable ones.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 05, 2021 02:17 PM (BFigT)

47 Wish I posted this in the previous thread, but progressives tell me that calling the cops for minor city crime is an example of white privilege, aka first world problems, so here goes:

https://bit.ly/3GegQnk

Goes to brief Twitter thread with two videos showing a late night bar closing hour mischief. Just some guy with a long rifle stealing cars with his buddy in the middle of a McDonald's parking that's lit up like an airport hanger. Half a block from my apartment, but it's been kinda sporty around here for eighteen months, so not entirely unexpected.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at December 05, 2021 02:17 PM (+WWsf)

48 Do wonder how long it will be 2nd world problem thread.

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2021 02:17 PM (2JoB8)

49 You butchered a clod? What was the clod's name?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot


Claude. Claude the clod.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2021 02:18 PM (uXonU)

50
If you're cooking with propane in Texas,
you better have some gas in the tank.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 05, 2021 02:18 PM (a3Q+t)

51 Oops. Previous link went to bottom of thread.

Here's top of the Twitter thread:

https://bit.ly/3Dt1LMK

Posted by: Walter Freeman at December 05, 2021 02:18 PM (+WWsf)

52
Last few years have a spare tank, but 1 is old kind and isn't supposed to be refilled.
Posted by: Skip


Take that one out to a distant gravel pit with a high-powered rifle and "BLAMMO!" **

**
NOT A SERIOUS RECOMMENDATION, PEOPLE!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 05, 2021 02:18 PM (3l5Yq)

53 Wish I posted this in the previous thread, but progressives tell me that calling the cops for minor city crime is an example of white privilege, aka first world problems, so here goes:

https://bit.ly/3GegQnk

Goes to brief Twitter thread with two videos showing a late night bar closing hour mischief. Just some guy with a long rifle stealing cars with his buddy in the middle of a McDonald's parking that's lit up like an airport hanger. Half a block from my apartment, but it's been kinda sporty around here for eighteen months, so not entirely unexpected.
Posted by: Walter Freeman


If calling the cops is 1st world problems, handle it like the hood. Snipe 'em.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2021 02:19 PM (uXonU)

54 I have three tanks, and a fourth empty that is too old to be refilled by a reputable propane dealer.

The issue is when the gas runs out. I don't want to start swapping "almost empty" tanks just to be sure.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2021 02:14 PM


When we had the deep freeze here in NE Texas back in February you could not get propane. When they did get in a truck or two it had doubled in price.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 05, 2021 02:19 PM (bVYXr)

55 Do you all clean before you grill or after? I do both mostly. I brush down afterward and then use this food safe citrus grill degreaser before I start the next time. I watch shows where people say you need to clean before anyway so just save time and don't screw with it until then.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 05, 2021 02:20 PM (XXeDg)

56
*whiny self-satisfied voice*

Should have used charcoal!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 05, 2021 02:20 PM (Otbg7)

57 Can check the fuel level by tapping the side of the tank.
Tink
Tink
Tunk.
Tire iron works best.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2021 02:20 PM (axyOa)

58 @52: "... distant gravel pit with a high-powered rifle and "BLAMMO!" **"

For an added bonus, put the tank on a hot charcoal grill, and let it, umm, simmer for a few minutes before commencing target practice.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at December 05, 2021 02:20 PM (+WWsf)

59
BREAKING:

Bob Dole dead at 98.

Appreciated his service and sacrifice as a GI. Did not care for his GOP-e bent.

RIP

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 05, 2021 02:21 PM (s2VJv)

60 I have three tanks, and a fourth empty that is too old to be refilled by a reputable propane dealer.


You need to find the shady guy who refills tanks from his trunk, No questions asked.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2021 02:21 PM (uXonU)

61 Switch to natural gas.

Posted by: IrishEi at December 05, 2021 02:21 PM (0TVNF)

62 I've always wantd to try the old "road flare taped to the propane tank" trick to see if it really works.

Posted by: normal at December 05, 2021 02:22 PM (obo9H)

63 "... distant gravel pit with a high-powered rifle and "BLAMMO!" **"

For an added bonus, put the tank on a hot charcoal grill, and let it, umm, simmer for a few minutes before commencing target practice.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at December 05, 2021 02:20 PM


Naw, set the full propane tank out in a field and put two pounds of tannerite on top of the tank and fire away*.


I would not want to be within 200 yards of it.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 05, 2021 02:22 PM (bVYXr)

64 55 Do you all clean before you grill or after? I do both mostly. I brush down afterward and then use this food safe citrus grill degreaser before I start the next time. I watch shows where people say you need to clean before anyway so just save time and don't screw with it until then.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 05, 2021 02:20 PM (XXeDg)

What is this "clean the grill" think of which you speak? DH told me that the grill is an estrogen-free zone.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at December 05, 2021 02:22 PM (eKvjl)

65 For Pete's sake, just WEIGH the dumb cylinder and subtract the empty weight. A simple, easily available propane chart will give you the pound breakdown with surprising accuracy. I use this all the time.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 05, 2021 02:22 PM (KATBx)

66 Yes, I know it doesn't burn as hot, but at least it's always there and it "burns."

Posted by: IrishEi at December 05, 2021 02:22 PM (0TVNF)

67 *whiny self-satisfied voice*

Should have used charcoal!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


Pipe down you!

Posted by: Hank Hill at December 05, 2021 02:22 PM (uXonU)

68 CBD that's exactly what I do. Swap almost empty or suspect tanks for full (actually, I keep mine, just have them refilled at the gas station in the neighborhood, which inexplicably has the best propane prices around, and is a few blocks away). Given price and proximity, it's not any kind of issue.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 05, 2021 02:23 PM (OTzUX)

69 I have three tanks, and a fourth empty that is too old to be refilled by a reputable propane dealer.


You need to find the shady guy who refills tanks from his trunk, No questions asked.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2021 02:21 PM (uXonU)


Slip the dude an extra $5. Works every time.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2021 02:23 PM (axyOa)

70 For Pete's sake, just WEIGH the dumb cylinder and subtract the empty weight.
Posted by: irongrampa

A simple solution for a problem?!

This is not the Moron way.

Posted by: Tonypete at December 05, 2021 02:23 PM (mD/uy)

71 Do you all clean before you grill or after? I do both mostly. I brush down afterward and then use this food safe citrus grill degreaser before I start the next time. I watch shows where people say you need to clean before anyway so just save time and don't screw with it until then.

---

Before...I heat the shit out of the grill to reduce everything to ash then brush it off. I have a cast iron grill so that helps

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 05, 2021 02:23 PM (h1jJh)

72 Bob Dole is gone? RIP

Posted by: IrishEi at December 05, 2021 02:24 PM (0TVNF)

73 Walter I wouldn't be safe in the city with that going on.

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2021 02:24 PM (2JoB8)

74 3 tanks and a backup charcoal Weber.

Hand in your mancard, whiner.

Posted by: Auspex at December 05, 2021 02:24 PM (Xo3T0)

75
If you're looking for sympathy, it's in the dictionary between symbol and symphony.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 05, 2021 02:25 PM (3l5Yq)

76 What is this "clean the grill" think of which you speak? DH told me that the grill is an estrogen-free zone.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at December 05, 2021 02:22 PM (eKvjl),


This.
I brush it off after heating before throwing the flesh on it.
That doesnt count as cleaning.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2021 02:25 PM (axyOa)

77 For Pete's sake, just WEIGH the dumb cylinder and subtract the empty weight. A simple, easily available propane chart will give you the pound breakdown with surprising accuracy. I use this all the time.
~~~~~

Sounds an awful lot like math.

Posted by: IrishEi at December 05, 2021 02:25 PM (0TVNF)

78 but it's been kinda sporty around here for eighteen months, so not entirely unexpected.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at December 05, 2021 02:17 PM (+WWsf)
------------

Chevy's must be easier to steal than Audi's.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 05, 2021 02:25 PM (I9jxh)

79 35 No sympathy for Mr. Dildo on this one, it appears.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 05, 2021 02:13 PM (a3Q+t)

Sympathy for Mr Dildo by the Stones was a failure. Put down to all the drugs they were on.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 05, 2021 02:25 PM (csEWM)

80 CBD that's exactly what I do. Swap almost empty or suspect tanks for full (actually, I keep mine, just have them refilled at the gas station in the neighborhood, which inexplicably has the best propane prices around, and is a few blocks away). Given price and proximity, it's not any kind of issue.
Posted by: rhomboid


One advantage to living in the country? Propane sellers everywhere. Including the big company in town that does the home refills of the 150 lb tanks alongside people's homes.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2021 02:26 PM (uXonU)

81 This.
I brush it off after heating before throwing the flesh on it.
That doesnt count as cleaning.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2021 02:25 PM (axyOa)

Purifying flame. Anything left will make you strong!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 05, 2021 02:28 PM (csEWM)

82
I'll continue to use wood to bbq because the carbon cycle is like a cycle or something. The day I can't start a fire with one match has yet to occur.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at December 05, 2021 02:28 PM (dQvv7)

83 Purifying flame. Anything left will make you strong!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 05, 2021 02:28 PM (csEWM)


Aetius gets it.
He is of the body!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2021 02:29 PM (axyOa)

84 61 Switch to natural gas.

Posted by: IrishEi at December 05, 2021 02:21 PM (0TVNF)


That's a bad investment. Cooking with anything other than solar- and wind-generated electricity will be illegal beginning in 2030.

Posted by: AOC and Joe and GranWhore at December 05, 2021 02:29 PM (AMIL/)

85 I'll continue to use wood to bbq because the carbon cycle is like a cycle or something. The day I can't start a fire with one match has yet to occur.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at December 05, 2021 02:28 PM


Sounds like someone has just awoken the Karma Kraken.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 05, 2021 02:29 PM (bVYXr)

86 Just remembered in St Louis maybe 10 years ago a Air Products yard caught fire, tv went live to it for hours as tanks blew up. It was like the place was being bombed by a B-52 squadron for a hour.

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2021 02:29 PM (2JoB8)

87 If you're looking for sympathy, it's in the dictionary between symbol and symphony.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 05, 2021 02:25 PM


That's not quite the exact wording I remember Chiefs and Sergeants using, though.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 05, 2021 02:29 PM (a3Q+t)

88 Do you all clean before you grill or after? I do both mostly. I brush down afterward and then use this food safe citrus grill degreaser before I start the next time. I watch shows where people say you need to clean before anyway so just save time and don't screw with it until then.
Posted by: banana Dream


After I cook, I let it cool slightly and scrub it with a pumice stone. The next time I turn it on full blast for 7- 10 min and then scrub it with a wet newspaper, let it heat up again if needed, and then oil the grates.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 05, 2021 02:30 PM (1t5dY)

89 [@53: "If calling the cops is 1st world problems, handle it like the hood. Snipe 'em."

I don't imagine that Minneapolis can keep unraveling like this for long before one of these car thieves and carjackers ends up dead and a normie in jail.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at December 05, 2021 02:30 PM (+WWsf)

90 79 35 No sympathy for Mr. Dildo on this one, it appears.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 05, 2021 02:13 PM (a3Q+t)

Sympathy for Mr Dildo by the Stones was a failure. Put down to all the drugs they were on.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 05, 2021 02:25 PM (csEWM)

"Please allow me to insert myself . . . "

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 05, 2021 02:30 PM (s2VJv)

91
I'll continue to use wood to bbq because the carbon cycle is like a cycle or something.


Flames gotta eat, just like buzzards and worms.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 05, 2021 02:30 PM (3l5Yq)

92 I currently do not have a grill, but am thinking when I do get a new one it'll be pellet or charcoal.

No offense to Hank Hill.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Crossing state lines like a Boss at December 05, 2021 02:30 PM (x8Wzq)

93 I'm pretty sure federal legislation would fix this.

Posted by: I mean at December 05, 2021 02:31 PM (6A9Kg)

94 So, yeah, Bob Dole is mort. But when he ran for President, I told a freind "he's going to win!" believing Karl Rove and the GOPe and all their stupid propaganda. My friend said "yeah, not so much."

When Dole lost, he called to tweak me - I told him "Yeah, Bob Dole lost, but Bob Dole didn't do much to help Bob Dole."

Today, my friend texted me "Bob Dole final won." Yup...RIP.

Posted by: Boswell at December 05, 2021 02:31 PM (5iUNf)

95 Cast iron grills must be brushed and seasoned with bacon grease to keep the fire gods appeased. Before and after will keep you in good graces.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 05, 2021 02:31 PM (BPuaD)

96 That's a bad investment. Cooking with anything other than solar- and wind-generated electricity will be illegal beginning in 2030.

~~~~~

*sad face*

Posted by: IrishEi at December 05, 2021 02:32 PM (0TVNF)

97 I have propane for the End Times. Hopefully they won't last more than 2 tanks.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 05, 2021 02:32 PM (EZebt)

98 It was Praxair
https://youtu.be/8VOwkvTh-Go

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2021 02:32 PM (2JoB8)

99 I "clean" my grille by closing the cover and max heating it for 20 minutes or so, then wire brushing after it cools a bit.'' I've had this grille since 1991 and have had no issues.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 05, 2021 02:33 PM (KATBx)

100 I do remember bluebell giving CBD sympathy that year the Red Sox won the World Series, so it's like he's never gotten any.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 05, 2021 02:33 PM (a3Q+t)

101 We have both companies in this area also, Praxair and Air Products

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2021 02:33 PM (2JoB8)

102 Check out that video

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2021 02:33 PM (2JoB8)

103 >>>The day I can't start a fire with one match has yet to occur.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at December 05, 2021 02:28 PM (dQvv7)
----------

1/2 cup gasoline
1 match

Posted by: Braenyard at December 05, 2021 02:34 PM (I9jxh)

104 Anyone still using those brass brushes to clean your grill ever notice brass brush hair on the grill? Never noticed until I read about it. Not something I'd like to swallow with a burger. Tossed them.

Posted by: dartist at December 05, 2021 02:34 PM (+ya+t)

105 Keep a spare full propane tank on hand. When the one in use runs out, backup goes into service quickly and saves the in-progress meal. Get the empty one filled the next day - before you forget. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Posted by: Doof at December 05, 2021 02:34 PM (MAsS4)

106 Given price and proximity, it's not any kind of issue.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 05, 2021 02:23 PM (OTzUX)

Remember...I am a cheap bastard. I do not want to waste any propane!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2021 02:34 PM (Q9lwr)

107 >>> 103 >>>The day I can't start a fire with one match has yet to occur.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at December 05, 2021 02:28 PM (dQvv7)
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1/2 cup gasoline
1 match
Posted by: Braenyard at December 05, 2021 02:34 PM (I9jxh)

Are you trying to start a fire or explode something?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 05, 2021 02:35 PM (llON8)

108 Anyone still using those brass brushes to clean your grill ever notice brass brush hair on the grill?

Posted by: dartist at December 05, 2021 02:34 PM (+ya+t)

Nope, because I saw some shards of the stuff on the grill. I switched to the woven steel brushes that are great!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2021 02:35 PM (Q9lwr)

109 f you're looking for sympathy, it's in the dictionary between symbol and symphony.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 05, 2021 02:25 PM

That's not quite the exact wording I remember Chiefs and Sergeants using, though.
Posted by: Duncanthrax


Between Shit & Syphilis?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2021 02:36 PM (uXonU)

110 Folks...this is just a bit tongue-in-cheek....

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2021 02:36 PM (Q9lwr)

111 I have a habit that drives Mrs. Wrecks crazy. Well, more than one actually, but the one I'm talking about is to always have a reserve on hand. Doesn't matter what. Toothbrush, deodorant, trash bags, I have the operational and the reserve. Mrs. Wrecks says that it takes twice the storage space but I never run out.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 05, 2021 02:37 PM (FVME7)

112 Since got new grill last year been cleaning grills immediately after use, staying pretty clean.

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2021 02:38 PM (2JoB8)

113 Stop cooking, child. Just go eat your bugs and live in your pod.

Posted by: normal at December 05, 2021 02:38 PM (obo9H)

114 Not familiar with old vs. new connection types, but I think the tanks have a certification that lasts 12 years, after which they need to be tested/re-certified/disposed of, or whatever the process is. Stamped on the steel collar on top.
Posted by: rhomboid


And testing costs as much, if not more than a new tank. New 20 lb tank at Sam's is right around $30.


That is when you take your old tank to a hardware store and swap your decertified empty tank for a new full one. The caveat I have found with store-bought refills is that they only put 15# in a 20#. Usually when you go to UHaul or some entity who fills your tanks, you get 18# (no one will put 20# in a 20#).

Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 05, 2021 02:38 PM (qg3qm)

115 89 [@53: "If calling the cops is 1st world problems, handle it like the hood. Snipe 'em."

I don't imagine that Minneapolis can keep unraveling like this for long before one of these car thieves and carjackers ends up dead and a normie in jail.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at December 05, 2021 02:30 PM (+WWsf)

Pick your one spot.
Recon.
When trouble comes, use it once.
Do not return.

Ahhh...so a friend told me.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2021 02:38 PM (axyOa)

116 A spare grill tank. Lol snort guffaw.
Lett me be clear - i cook on charcoal and smoke.meats.this way. I am not gonna make.fire to.grill a salmon, burgers or chicken breasts for 12 minutes. Thats where the Webber Genesis II comes into play. Wifey and bought a new one off a pallet from Lowes two years ago for less than $400 bucks, including tax. Yay us!
So imma kind of grill tank collector for when the burning times come, i can smoke skwerl over wood AND grill over gas with my 18 grill tank which i can fill for $10 Cash and Carry (no tax) on a full twenty-pound fill between Memorial day and Labor day at a local LP gas place, with donation to Breast Cancer Awarenes.

So, if any u morons got tanks u wanna get rid.of, let.me know! Also, i have a 1000 gallon lp tank we eun furnace, water heater and stove
I this runs dry, grill tank gives me 11 days in the summer






Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at December 05, 2021 02:38 PM (TRGyz)

117 CBD you think so, but it is a serious issue.

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2021 02:39 PM (2JoB8)

118 Diesel is the best for starting fires. Longer burn time, nice odor, and thick black smoke.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 05, 2021 02:39 PM (BFigT)

119 >>> I have a habit that drives Mrs. Wrecks crazy. Well, more than one actually, but the one I'm talking about is to always have a reserve on hand. Doesn't matter what. Toothbrush, deodorant, trash bags, I have the operational and the reserve. Mrs. Wrecks says that it takes twice the storage space but I never run out.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 05, 2021 02:37 PM (FVME7)


I've known women who had that exact same philosophy in relationships.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 05, 2021 02:39 PM (XXeDg)

120 This is why I had propane line run from my house system to the grill.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 05, 2021 02:39 PM (ZLI7S)

121 There are Utoobs on the refilling of older bottles.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 05, 2021 02:40 PM (I9jxh)

122 Two tanks. Short hoses. T fitting. Longer hose to bbq pit. Hook both thanks up. Open one. Cook. As that tank runs out, open second tank and close first tank. After dinner, unhook empty to get refilled.

RV's run dual tanks for that reason.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2021 02:40 PM (uXonU)

123 I was at the gas station getting my second propane tank filled and I mentioned that the Lego Movie made it hard to move a 5lb tank around without thinking of giant Lego heads.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 05, 2021 02:40 PM (ZMraq)

124 Taste the meat, not the heat!

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 05, 2021 02:41 PM (II3Gr)

125 If the propane runs out, go hobo style.

Some paper, cardboard, an old shoe, a sock or two and maybe those drawers that used to be white but are now a brown reddish gray from various bodily fluids.

Once the fire gets going, add branches and the like from around your position. The smell will bring all the boys to your yard.

Enjoy!

Posted by: Dirty Mike and the Boys at December 05, 2021 02:41 PM (R/m4+)

126 I have a habit that drives Mrs. Wrecks crazy. Well, more than one actually, but the one I'm talking about is to always have a reserve on hand. Doesn't matter what. Toothbrush, deodorant, trash bags, I have the operational and the reserve. Mrs. Wrecks says that it takes twice the storage space but I never run out.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

At least, shot on a shelf at least isn't sitting on a container ship in the port of Long Beach.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2021 02:42 PM (uXonU)

127 Problem is killing a thug who is trying to steal or kil, you for your vehicle you will be as famous as Kyle Rittenhouse by time it's over.

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2021 02:43 PM (2JoB8)

128 I've known women who had that exact same philosophy in relationships.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 05, 2021 02:39 PM (XXeDg)


The Paolo and Sven the pool boy.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 05, 2021 02:44 PM (axyOa)

129 aw, set the full propane tank out in a field and put two pounds of tannerite on top of the tank and fire away*.


I would not want to be within 200 yards of it.


Save those tanks for The Burning Times, I'm sure a much more fruitful and satisfying use will manifest itself then.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 05, 2021 02:44 PM (qg3qm)

130 and maybe those drawers that used to be white but are now a brown reddish gray from various bodily fluids.
..

And what are we supposed to wear tomorrow?

Posted by: LMAO at December 05, 2021 02:44 PM (BSTC+)

131
I've known women who had that exact same philosophy in relationships.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 05, 2021 02:39 PM (XXeDg)

Been on the receiving end of that. See also "monkey branching."

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 05, 2021 02:45 PM (II3Gr)

132 You left out the best part where where you reach in there to turn off the valve and loosen the fitting and grab a damn wasp nest.

Posted by: Eromero at December 05, 2021 02:45 PM (0OP+5)

133 Taste the meat, not the heat!

Both is fine by me.

Posted by: Sandra Flook at December 05, 2021 02:45 PM (Xrfse)

134 I used to have a grill where the tank sat in what was pretty much a spring loaded scale. Had a pointer to indicate E-F.

Posted by: Golfman at December 05, 2021 02:46 PM (0hCcA)

135 "always have a reserve on hand."

Generally, yes, but last year when i wasn't working and couldn't do much b/c my hernia, i found that my reserve simply became a part of a larger stash. I.e., my reserve eighth became part of my quarter, and i went through it rapidly. Not having that "reserve" slowed me down.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 05, 2021 02:47 PM (KAi1n)

136 You could always use charcoal, like civilized people do.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at December 05, 2021 02:07 PM (eKvjl)


T here are a lot of equipment proposed for making biochar (natural charcoal) but the one that really got my attention is a 55gal metal drum with a strip taken out of it from head to base, about 1/3 section of the diameter in width, that you set on it's side and pile your scrap wood and windfall branches into, and touch off. Burn it until the flames die down and the black charcoal starts going to ash, and keep refilling it for a while, then quench it by filling it full of water, and then dumping the water. If you time it right, and the window is not supposed to be narrow, you have charcoal you can dry and bag up.

After all the proposed ovens and burners and such, something that just makes charcoal is good.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 05, 2021 02:47 PM (ZMraq)

137
When I had my business I had access to 99% isopropyl alcohol in 55 gallon drums. Best wood fire starter ever. Burns off quickly, no aftertaste.

To purchase such nowadays you problem have to have a background check, three day waiting period, and proof you're not cooking meth.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at December 05, 2021 02:48 PM (dQvv7)

138 My generator is duel fuel so I prefer to run propane in it. Have multiple tanks as propane stores for a pretty long time. No problems.

Thinking about a pellet grill/smoker for future.

Posted by: whig at December 05, 2021 02:49 PM (9hXN1)

139
Why can't they make a ceramic coating that lasts more than a month?

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 05, 2021 02:49 PM (+7f6L)

140 I have a Weber charcoal grill that lights from a miniature propane tank. You run the push-to-ignite starter jet for a minute or so, and then it takes about 30 minutes for the charcoal to heat to a cooking fire. The gas tanks last a loooong time!

My current 1st world bane is a propane tank that is too old to fill, but will not be accepted at the dump because it still has the valve stem attached!! GRRRRR!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at December 05, 2021 02:49 PM (9EsIa)

141 When I had my business I had access to 99% isopropyl alcohol in 55 gallon drums. Best wood fire starter ever. Burns off quickly, no aftertaste.

==


No aftertaste !

Posted by: Siberian truck driver at December 05, 2021 02:50 PM (V13WU)

142 Swapping out tanks is is such a rip off. They charge $30 but it costs $15 if you just fill it up with propane at Uhaul or Ace Hardware.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 05, 2021 02:50 PM (8roU7)

143 If the propane runs out, go hobo style.

In many areas, that is defined as stealing propane tanks out of someone's back yard.

Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 05, 2021 02:51 PM (qg3qm)

144 A couple of houses ago I had a direct hookup to the house for the grill since we had propane for heating. No tank, never run out. It was awesome.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 05, 2021 02:51 PM (8roU7)

145
Non-Stick Coating, my ass.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 05, 2021 02:52 PM (+7f6L)

146 Non-Stick Coating, my ass.

Posted by: Soothsayer

Yoo Hoo, go on!!

Posted by: Shep Smith at December 05, 2021 02:52 PM (mD/uy)

147
I mean the background check is okay, three day waiting period a minor annoyance, but proof I'm not cooking meth?

I'd like to keep all my options open as we approach the end times.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at December 05, 2021 02:52 PM (dQvv7)

148 My current 1st world bane is a propane tank that is too old to fill, but will not be accepted at the dump because it still has the valve stem attached!! GRRRRR!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at December 05, 2021 02:49 PM


Take it to the propane exchange places, they take any tank without question here and replace it. Cheaper than buying a new one and getting it filled. Gonna have to do that with the old one my SIL brought up here after they closed on the old house.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 05, 2021 02:53 PM (bVYXr)

149 Speaking of....

Any good kitchen knife sharpeners for less than $50? Aside from stones, that is.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 05, 2021 02:54 PM (1t5dY)

150
btw, was at the wretched hive of scum and villainy the other day (Costco) and they had Pork Chops for $2.19/lb.

That's about equal to Chicken Breast prices.
What gives?

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 05, 2021 02:54 PM (+7f6L)

151 That's why I have a month's worth of 400 calorie survival bars.

In case the propane runs out or civilization collapses.

Posted by: I mean at December 05, 2021 02:54 PM (mD2Jq)

152 Praxair, supplying Ideology to Austrian Economists for 50 years

Posted by: Kindltot at December 05, 2021 02:54 PM (ZMraq)

153 Non stick stuff is full of chemicals. You dont you food cooking on that shit. Ill happily scrub for a few minutes.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - I miss the Delta Variant at December 05, 2021 02:54 PM (8roU7)

154 My current 1st world bane is a propane tank that is too old to fill, but will not be accepted at the dump because it still has the valve stem attached!! GRRRRR!
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at December 05, 2021 02:49 PM (9EsIa)
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Can't you just release the pressure and then remove the valve stem?

Posted by: IrishEi at December 05, 2021 02:55 PM (0TVNF)

155 I exchanged a tank that had a broken valve. It worked fine, but when it ran dry and I went to unhook it from the grill it snapped. Weird crack in it. I was lucky it didn't go boom. Now, when I exchange tanks I give 'em a once over. Some are really ratty and look dangerous. I sorta' surprised there aren't more accidents or (more likely) more regulation.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 05, 2021 02:56 PM (BFigT)

156 My current 1st world bane is a propane tank that is too old to fill, but will not be accepted at the dump because it still has the valve stem attached!! GRRRRR!
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at December 05, 2021 02:49 PM (9EsIa)
~~~~~

Can't you just release the pressure and then remove the valve stem?
Posted by: IrishEi


Open the valve, fill completely with water untill it runs out. Drain. Tank is safe to do whatever you want at that point.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2021 02:56 PM (uXonU)

157 Umm. You don't want to switch to full tank when you know one is close to empty, Why? They charge you for the amount they put in the tank so its not like you are losing that little bit of propane by switching out early. Unless you have a tank that needs inspected and are doing the tank swap so Wallys or whomever can eat the inspection cost.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 05, 2021 02:58 PM (3cGpq)

158 Somehow I've ended up with three of the bloody things. Plus I don't really grill outside anymore. I only use the side burner to make stocks, especially shrimp stock. Really stinks up the house. I just can't get a decent char on the dang grates, on anything. Might go back to charcoal.

Posted by: Javems at December 05, 2021 02:58 PM (AmoqO)

159 Thanks for reminding me CBD, I need to pick up another 5 gallon tank for my propane torch. When snow comes this year I intend to fight it with fire.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at December 05, 2021 02:59 PM (SchxB)

160 I just bought a mini propane heater. I will not freeze again this year when our grid goes down. I have about 30 mini propane canisters that are probably 10 years old. Wonder how long they hold the propane? I bought a few more in case they're no good.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 05, 2021 02:59 PM (iXJM1)

161 Can you sous vide with propane? Inquiring minds.....

Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at December 05, 2021 03:00 PM (PiwSw)

162 My current 1st world bane is a propane tank that is too old to fill, but will not be accepted at the dump because it still has the valve stem attached!! GRRRRR!
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at December 05, 2021 02:49 PM (9EsIa


Give it to a metal dealer, or fill it full of water to make sure all flammable gas won't go boom, then drain it and saw the top off with a angle grinder, then either take it to recycling or turn it into a planter.

They do make nice back yard decorative fire pits, marginally better than using an old hub

Posted by: Kindltot at December 05, 2021 03:02 PM (ZMraq)

163 No idea if you can get that shoved into a new tank.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at December 05, 2021 02:03 PM (bVYXr)


If the other tank is empty you could get half of the gas in there, maybe a bit more with help from gravity. Just need the right connections on the hose.

Posted by: Javems at December 05, 2021 03:03 PM (AmoqO)

164 I just bought a mini propane heater. I will not freeze again this year when our grid goes down. I have about 30 mini propane canisters that are probably 10 years old. Wonder how long they hold the propane? I bought a few more in case they're no good.
Posted by: Just a side note


They hold propane forever. A Big Buddy propane heater on low is a little more than a tank a day.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2021 03:04 PM (uXonU)

165 41 Just use all-natural friction to cook your food. Any reasonably excited 14 year old boy can hump a frozen turkey to a dull cherry red in a couple of minutes.

Posted by: normal at December 05, 2021 02:16 PM (obo9H)

--------------------------

As shown on the Hallmark Channel's "Lincoln Project Hometown Thanksgiving Special."

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 05, 2021 03:04 PM (lNHqD)

166 I'm lucky to have a propane company next town over. They just swap out your empty for a refurbished one.

Posted by: dartist at December 05, 2021 03:05 PM (+ya+t)

167 They hold propane forever. A Big Buddy propane heater on low is a little more than a tank a day.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2021 03:04 PM (uXonU)

Thought maybe they did though they indicate a shelf life of five years.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 05, 2021 03:06 PM (iXJM1)

168 Speaking of....

Any good kitchen knife sharpeners for less than $50? Aside from stones, that is.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 05, 2021 02:54 PM (1t5dY)

It is exactly what you asked not to reply with, so I won't mention that a Smiths-DCS4 combo diamond stone is in every drawer and toolbox that may be needed for sharpening. $16. I also won't mention a small diamond sharpening rod for serrated knives. $9.

Posted by: flounder at December 05, 2021 03:07 PM (SH2Zi)

169 149 Speaking of....

Any good kitchen knife sharpeners for less than $50? Aside from stones, that is.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 05, 2021 02:54 PM (1t5dY)
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I use a Rada Quick Edge on my kitchen knives. Works fantastic and goes for about $15.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at December 05, 2021 03:07 PM (lNHqD)

170 I have an NG grill. Not as fast or hot as propane, but it never runs out.

Until SFB shuts down the NG pipeline.

Posted by: Regular joe at December 05, 2021 03:07 PM (L9P9s)

171 Wasn't until probably 20 years ago before I knew they made propane refrigerators. Just never thought about it.

Posted by: Just a side note at December 05, 2021 03:08 PM (iXJM1)

172 FWP: I have to bend down to check the fill on the tank before beginning to use it, to know whether I should swap it out first.

Posted by: flounder at December 05, 2021 03:08 PM (SH2Zi)

173 Wasn't until probably 20 years ago before I knew they made propane refrigerators. Just never thought about it.
Posted by: Just a side note


Propane for RV's
Kerosene for Amish.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2021 03:10 PM (uXonU)

174 1/2 cup gasoline
1 match

Dad?

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at December 05, 2021 03:10 PM (fTtFy)

175 Non-Stick Coating, my ass.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 05, 2021 02:52 PM (+7f6L)

Restaurant supply house, get a 7" and a 10", out the door for less than about $40. The coating deteriorates, throw it out and get another at that price.

Posted by: flounder at December 05, 2021 03:11 PM (SH2Zi)

176 One of my brothers gave me a dual-fuel generator.

First thing I did was buy 2 20 lb propane tanks and get them filled.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at December 05, 2021 03:11 PM (rDgjh)

177 I've known women who had that exact same philosophy in relationships.
Posted by: banana Dream at December 05, 2021 02:39 PM (XXeDg)

Been on the receiving end of that. See also "monkey branching."

Posted by: Insomniac - Outlaw. Sexual Racist. at December 05, 2021 02:45 PM (II3Gr)

Two is one, and one is none.

Posted by: flounder at December 05, 2021 03:13 PM (SH2Zi)

178 86 Just remembered in St Louis maybe 10 years ago a Air Products yard caught fire, tv went live to it for hours as tanks blew up. It was like the place was being bombed by a B-52 squadron for a hour.

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2021 02:29 PM (2JoB


I think I remember that. Tanks taking off like missiles, flying over adjacent roads.

Posted by: Javems at December 05, 2021 03:13 PM (AmoqO)

179 Two of my brothers solved the propane issue by having natural gas grills and hooking into the household gas line.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 05, 2021 03:13 PM (mcfjc)

180 And I am not even talking about not having a full tank available...I learned my lesson a long time ago when I had 10 people for dinner and I had to change the main course on the fly when the propane gremlins emptied the tank behind my back.
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Allow me to solve this one for you, my friend.

Buy a backup tank ($20 or so). When one runs out, it's a two minute job to switch out the empty. And you can then refill it at your leisure, without drama.

I do the same thing with, e.g., toothpaste, Scotch, etc., and now my lovely bride of *cough* years does it habitually with anything that doesn't entail a lot of expense.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 05, 2021 03:13 PM (pRQ2K)

181 >>> 173 Wasn't until probably 20 years ago before I knew they made propane refrigerators. Just never thought about it.
Posted by: Just a side note


Propane for RV's
Kerosene for Amish.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2021 03:10 PM (uXonU)

I did not know that.
https://is.gd/3NMjpW

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 05, 2021 03:14 PM (llON8)

182 I have a habit that drives Mrs. Wrecks crazy. Well, more than one actually, but the one I'm talking about is to always have a reserve on hand. Doesn't matter what. Toothbrush, deodorant, trash bags, I have the operational and the reserve. Mrs. Wrecks says that it takes twice the storage space but I never run out.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at December 05, 2021 02:37 PM (FVME7)
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Sorry, just saw this. Fortunately, it doesn't drive the lovely Mrs Guevara crazy. In fact, she now has adopted the same strategy. No emergency runs to the store, no drama, no nothing. Life is tranquil.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 05, 2021 03:16 PM (pRQ2K)

183
Two of my brothers solved the propane issue by having natural gas grills and hooking into the household gas line.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 05, 2021 03:13 PM (mcfjc)

That's DOPE!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2021 03:16 PM (2ABQr)

184 I do the same thing with, e.g., toothpaste, Scotch, etc., and now my lovely bride of *cough* years does it habitually with anything that doesn't entail a lot of expense.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 05, 2021 03:13 PM (pRQ2K)
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I was wondering if I was your wife until I realized that we have three propane tanks, not two.

Posted by: bluebell at December 05, 2021 03:17 PM (wyw4S)

185 Kerosene for Amish.

Nothing for them!!! They will not comply and are killing Grandma!!! Stay safe.

Posted by: A Scold of Karens at December 05, 2021 03:20 PM (Xrfse)

186 We moved to the country 5 years ago. Nearest stores (gas, milk, food) are 15-20 minutes away. That taught us to have more reserves than when we lived in town when everything was much closer.

Because of recent events we've upped the reserves from 2 weeks to 2 months.

Good news is that there is a liquor store 5 minutes away, so there's always that.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at December 05, 2021 03:20 PM (fTtFy)

187 173 Wasn't until probably 20 years ago before I knew they made propane refrigerators. Just never thought about it.
Posted by: Just a side note

Propane for RV's
Kerosene for Amish.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2021 03:10 PM (uXonU)


I spent nine months sleeping in a team house with three 5' tall propane tanks leaning against an outside wall, for our fridge and stove. Said a little prayer before bed time every night, something about mortar rounds.

Posted by: Javems at December 05, 2021 03:21 PM (AmoqO)

188 >>> 185 Kerosene for Amish.

Nothing for them!!! They will not comply and are killing Grandma!!! Stay safe.
Posted by: A Scold of Karens at December 05, 2021 03:20 PM (Xrfse)

It's going to be funny when the Amish rule the world because all the Karens couldn't last for more than 48 hours without electricity.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at December 05, 2021 03:22 PM (llON8)

189 Any good kitchen knife sharpeners for less than $50? Aside from stones, that is.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 05, 2021 02:54 PM (1t5dY)


I use a work sharp precision adjust sharpener. It has a course diamond, fine diamond, the a ceramic stone all on a triangle swivel that you can set to your desired angle. I then finish with a strop.

This one here:
https://bit.ly/3oq52Iv

I get very sharp uniform mirror edges.

Posted by: banana Dream at December 05, 2021 03:22 PM (XXeDg)

190
That's what keeps CVS and Walgreens in business: poor planning by women.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 05, 2021 03:23 PM (+7f6L)

191 Speaking of....

Any good kitchen knife sharpeners for less than $50? Aside from stones, that is.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 05, 2021 02:54 PM


None that I'd consider "good" that meet both your specs.

For a little more money, take a look at the Spyderco Sharpmaker.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 05, 2021 03:25 PM (a3Q+t)

192 James I looked it up,
https://youtu.be/8VOwkvTh-Go

At time we had neighbors of a sort who lived in St Louis and remember wondering how close they were, no very as it turned out when we saw them again.

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2021 03:25 PM (2JoB8)

193 There should be masks for propane tanks. Dr. Foochi says they harbor the coof.

Posted by: A Scold of Karens at December 05, 2021 03:25 PM (Xrfse)

194 When I had my business I had access to 99% isopropyl alcohol in 55 gallon drums. Best wood fire starter ever. Burns off quickly, no aftertaste.

To purchase such nowadays you problem have to have a background check, three day waiting period, and proof you're not cooking meth.
Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at December 05, 2021 02:48 PM (dQvv7)
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I recently spent a day in the ER after a suspected heart attack (false alarm), where a rather rough-looking guy kept hitting up the hand sanitizer station (ten times, after I started counting), which was right in front of me.

Turned out he was an alky, and he was drinking the stuff. The ER staff finally caught on, and a social worker came to talk with him. Long story short, he was staying at a sobriety home. I guess you can't win them all, huh?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 05, 2021 03:29 PM (f871o)

195 Jay, I'm glad you are okay. Even if you are one propane tank short.

Posted by: bluebell at December 05, 2021 03:31 PM (wyw4S)

196
That reminds me, remember when that "immigrant" drunk driver got away with killing people because "he lacked the enzyme" to metabolize booze?

That was one of the the-beginning-of-the-end moments we shrugged off.

Posted by: Soothsayer at December 05, 2021 03:33 PM (+7f6L)

197 BREAKING:

Bob Dole dead at 98.

Appreciated his service and sacrifice as a GI. Did not care for his GOP-e bent.

RIP

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

He did commercials for those pills....you know....those pills.

Did he die with a boner ?

Posted by: JT at December 05, 2021 03:33 PM (arJlL)

198 If you read enough Russian WWII history you get to parts the tank crews would drink antifreeze concoctions

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2021 03:33 PM (2JoB8)

199 194. Reminds me of the kindergartner who was drinking/eating the sanitizer mom had sent her to school with.

Posted by: PaleRider at December 05, 2021 03:33 PM (3cGpq)

200
There should be masks for propane tanks. Dr. Foochi says they harbor the coof.
Posted by: A Scold of Karens at December 05, 2021 03:25 PM (Xrfse)

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We just don't know if the Omicron variant is pressure-tank transmissible. With 32 mutations in the spike protein, it could certainly be possible. We just don't know. It might be nothing. But masking your tank will give us the time we need to find out, and it will give our Frontline Big Pharma Heros the time they need to develop Omicron variant vaccines, and manufacture the vital inline delivery systems for the propane regulator valves.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2021 03:33 PM (2ABQr)

201 Turned out he was an alky, and he was drinking the stuff. The ER staff finally caught on, and a social worker came to talk with him. Long story short, he was staying at a sobriety home. I guess you can't win them all, huh?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 05, 2021 03:29 PM (f871o)

***

Who does that...

Posted by: Kitty Dukakis at December 05, 2021 03:33 PM (flINI)

202 Jay, I'm glad you are okay. Even if you are one propane tank short.
Posted by: bluebell

Seconded!

Life's a funny game...you think you have problems....and then some nut comes along and puts it all in perspective.

Posted by: JT at December 05, 2021 03:36 PM (arJlL)

203 Zombie Bob Dole

Posted by: Zombie Bob Dole at December 05, 2021 03:36 PM (w9oI/)

204 Which is why I converted to a natural gas grill...

Posted by: IanDeal at December 05, 2021 03:38 PM (aT5/j)

205 Two of my brothers solved the propane issue by having natural gas grills and hooking into the household gas line.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 05, 2021 03:13 PM (mcfjc)

Dad did this. I unhooked it after he passed and got rid of the bbq. Don't know the last time it was cleaned. It was nasty. Bought a weber charcoal grill.

Posted by: Infidel at December 05, 2021 03:39 PM (qpolg)

206 The last remaining officer of Easy Company died Friday at 99.

https://tinyurl.com/43ev9uwj

Posted by: dartist at December 05, 2021 03:40 PM (+ya+t)

207 Zombies with Boners !

Where 's James Monroe ?

This screenplay is BEGGING to be written !

Posted by: JT at December 05, 2021 03:40 PM (arJlL)

208 Anyone change the wick on a kerosene heater?

Pain in the ass. Heater has to be empty and the wicks are finicky to work with. Especially when it's freezing and you've got no heat.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at December 05, 2021 03:41 PM (BFigT)

209 Bought a weber charcoal grill.
Posted by: Infidel

On a wagon ?

Posted by: JT at December 05, 2021 03:42 PM (arJlL)

210 We have two always full. Why?

Mother nature decided to bury us in snow one Sunday. Our generator failed and our one cooking source was left running Friday night. There was NO propane available the next long 8 days.

Posted by: Smileyggg at December 05, 2021 03:42 PM (3w9Fm)

211 The last remaining officer of Easy Company died Friday at 99.

https://tinyurl.com/43ev9uwj
Posted by: dartist

RIP, Sir.

Posted by: JT at December 05, 2021 03:43 PM (arJlL)

212 RIP Bob Dole. He'll be stiff one more time.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 05, 2021 03:43 PM (uXonU)

213 By the way, Propane burns hotter than natural gas, which is one reason I have not run NG to my patio for grilling.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 05, 2021 03:44 PM (Q9lwr)

214 Turned out he was an alky, and he was drinking the stuff. The ER staff finally caught on, and a social worker came to talk with him. Long story short, he was staying at a sobriety home. I guess you can't win them all, huh?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Knew a quick shop owner in the less desirable part of town. He sold beaucoup sterno by the case weekly whereas the grocery stores in town would sell maybe a case or so per month.

Turns out, the Alkys were straining out the solids and drinking the alcohol. It was a dry county and the alkys did not want to wait for their fix.

Posted by: whig at December 05, 2021 03:45 PM (9hXN1)

215 202 Jay, I'm glad you are okay. Even if you are one propane tank short.
Posted by: bluebell

Seconded!

Life's a funny game...you think you have problems....and then some nut comes along and puts it all in perspective.
Posted by: JT at December 05, 2021 03:36 PM (arJlL)
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Thanks, folks. As I've said before (to some opprobrium, actually) any problem that can be solved by money isn't really a problem. You may not have the money, but if you did, you could solve the problem. No amount of money will solve a health problem.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 05, 2021 03:45 PM (886LS)

216 Just remembered in St Louis maybe 10 years ago a Air Products yard caught fire, tv went live to it for hours as tanks blew up. It was like the place was being bombed by a B-52 squadron for a hour.

Dallas, TX 2007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoatgaQrK28

Posted by: Reuben Hick at December 05, 2021 03:45 PM (n/QQk)

217 On a wagon ?
Posted by: JT

How are you today jackwagon?

Posted by: Infidel at December 05, 2021 03:46 PM (qpolg)

218 Running out of shit is what the Democrats ran on.

Dysfunction is the objective. Green deal weaponizing weak minds. It's in their playbook.

Hu hu huuuu hike.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 05, 2021 03:49 PM (FUuQA)

219 CBD beat me to it.

If you do convert a propane to natural gas grill, remember that nat gas is lower pressure and generates less heat--some work with little to change but others require a nat gas retrofit kit.

Posted by: whig at December 05, 2021 03:50 PM (9hXN1)

220 RIP Edward Shames.

Posted by: Infidel at December 05, 2021 03:50 PM (qpolg)

221 On a wagon ?
Posted by: JT

How are you today jackwagon?
Posted by: Infidel

Mahvelous !

Posted by: JT at December 05, 2021 03:50 PM (arJlL)

222 216 It's just run for your life if it starts

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2021 03:54 PM (2JoB8)

223 Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I'll look at them all.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at December 05, 2021 03:56 PM (1t5dY)

224 CBD thanks you reminded me my spare tank has a bad seal (way worse than bad otters). So I bought a new tank and plan to take back the tank with the bad seal (not my seal, not my Seaworld) later.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 05, 2021 03:56 PM (yrol0)

225 Thanks everyone for the suggestions. I'll look at them all.
Posted by: weft cut-loop

Thank Bob Dole.

Posted by: JT at December 05, 2021 03:57 PM (arJlL)

226 Dole

98 is a pretty good fucking run.

Was he a Navy Pilot or was that Bush?

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 05, 2021 03:58 PM (yrol0)

227 I think Dole was Army.

Posted by: Infidel at December 05, 2021 03:58 PM (qpolg)

228 Two of my brothers solved the propane issue by having natural gas grills and hooking into the household gas line.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 05, 2021 03:13 PM (mcfjc)

That's DOPE!
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2021 03:16 PM (2ABQr)

Ya need a different regulator though. Propane needs a higher % of oxygen than household/city gas.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at December 05, 2021 04:00 PM (IJES/)

229 So I watch Midway this morning. Whats a good book about Midway? I dont want someone taking 24 pages to describe the landing deck of the the Kaga made from trees on the side of some holy mountain in Japan.

Just the facts.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 05, 2021 04:00 PM (yrol0)

230 That's DOPE!
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 05, 2021 03:16 PM (2ABQr)

Ya need a different regulator though. Propane needs a higher % of oxygen than household/city gas.
Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at December 05, 2021 04:00 PM (IJES/)

I had that at my house in FLA. As long as there was fracking (lets go Brandon) I has FIRE.

Posted by: rhennigantx at December 05, 2021 04:01 PM (yrol0)

231 Keeping you abreast of your noods

FOOD NOOD

Posted by: Skip at December 05, 2021 04:01 PM (2JoB8)

232 Hatari is on now. Everybody smoking all the time. Fun to see old movies.

Posted by: Infidel at December 05, 2021 04:02 PM (qpolg)

233
Re my # 228 above. This is what you need, you can get it from an RV part store instead of Amazon.

https://is.gd/B33HzL

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at December 05, 2021 04:02 PM (IJES/)

234 No way that I am swapping my new tanks for some crap.

I go to an Ace hardware in town that puts 20 lbs in a 20 lb tank.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at December 05, 2021 04:05 PM (rDgjh)

235 No way that I am swapping my new tanks for some crap.

I go to an Ace hardware in town that puts 20 lbs in a 20 lb tank.
Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at December 05, 2021 04:05 PM (rDgjh)

*nods*
This is the way.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at December 05, 2021 04:07 PM (IJES/)

236 Here's a first world problem for you... today I learned that "Deadnaming" is a term meaning "the act of calling a transgender person their name assigned at birth instead of how they identify now." I learned this because all the docs and staff in my medical group are required to take an online class on unconscious bias education.

I'm happy to call somebody what they want to be called, but this is just nuts.

Posted by: Dr Alice at December 05, 2021 04:11 PM (XJThx)

237 He did commercials for those pills....you know....those pills.

Did he die with a boner ?
Posted by: JT at December 05, 2021 03:33 PM (arJlL)

He's a stiffy now

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of Team Gizzard at December 05, 2021 04:13 PM (BgMrQ)

238 229 Miracle at Midway by Gordon Prange is a very readable account.

Posted by: whig at December 05, 2021 04:15 PM (9hXN1)

239 You haven't been grilling until you are outside and the little 20lb tank is freezing off because it is so cold. Quick thinking and a huge kerosene heater to keep the tank flowing saved the day. Now I keep a charcoal grill and spare charcoal just in case!

Posted by: StephanA at December 05, 2021 04:25 PM (q6ZCK)

240 I once bought a gadget that was supposed to display the level in the propane bottle. Needless to say, it didn't work, and I ran out at a most inopportune time.

Posted by: emanations and penumbras at December 05, 2021 04:37 PM (WusEB)

241 Do any of you grill with a fire pit? I have a brick one in the back yard that I've never used, because I have no idea how one is supposed to use it.

Wood? Charcoal? Buy a grill that fits over the top? I mean, I need *really basic* info, since I've never done any grilling at all, and neither did my hubby.

Posted by: Ann Wilson, aka Empire 1 at December 05, 2021 04:39 PM (JJatH)

242 I can handle the refills, keep a spare tank on hand.

What REALLY bugs me is when a propane tank gets old (12 years lifespan), and you can't find a non-observant attendee at a convenience store swap-bottle dispenser like Blue Rhino, etc., and they refuse to swap your old bottle for one that's still refillable, is that there is no "disposeable" solution. Salvage yards nor refill stations will NOT accept the old bottles. It's also illegal to throw them in the trash for the garbage disposal crew to deal with them. What a waste of raw material.

If you have an RV, and a gas grill at your house, you can easily accumulate 4-5 bottles over time, and every 12 years, they all need replaced.

I have learned to swap them out before the expiration dates, and to closely inspect the "swapped out" expiration dates on the bottles I receive from the swap before accepting them.

Anybody come up with a useful application for old expired bottles?

Posted by: Optimus Maximus at December 05, 2021 04:48 PM (BnPMX)

243 Anna (post 241):

Buy a grill to fit on top, you want some space (about 4-6 inches) between the grill and the top of the fuel.

Either charcoal or hard wood will work. I wouldn't recommend grilling over soft wood like pine, spruce, or fir.
Use Hickory, oak, apple, mesquite, or something similar.

Happy grilling.

Posted by: Optimus Maximus at December 05, 2021 04:54 PM (BnPMX)

244 Solution? Have full spare in reserve.

Posted by: Earth Pig at December 05, 2021 05:07 PM (eZpzP)

245 rhennigantx

Dole = 10th Mountain Division in Italy

G Bush = Naval aviator in the Pacific.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at December 05, 2021 05:29 PM (u82oZ)

246 Is it really possible to overcook clod?

Posted by: Bubba at December 05, 2021 06:03 PM (L9MMN)

247 Dole was seriously injured in Italy.

Posted by: CMU VET at December 05, 2021 06:09 PM (mMV7W)

248 Is charcoal mentioned in any of the bans California is always coming up with. You know to save the earth, trees, and other BS. An uncle got a patent on a new process to make charcoal, but it required wood.

Posted by: Colin at December 05, 2021 06:44 PM (QKMKY)

249 My tanked BBQ won't light. I think it's the regulator that's troublesome. Tank's regulator seems intermittent.

The BBQ had its own tank, but also has house propane plumbing near the BBQ's location.

So I had a custom 6-foot industrial-rated hose -- with proper fittings to fit the house and the exact flare fitting to fit the BBQ -- made.

I removed the BBQ's regulator, connected the new hose and, presto!, the BBQ lights first time, every time.

I have a shutoff ball valve we turn off after use in case someone leaves the BBQ's valves on by accident.

Limitless, reliable propane for the BBQ now. I even have a WiFi level monitor on the 120-gal. Currently at 76%. When I need it, the Big Truck delivers the next day.

$3.20/gallon at last fillup. Ouch.

Posted by: Dan at December 05, 2021 06:53 PM (+NG5U)

250 Much ado about nothing. Always keep a spare propane tank.

Posted by: The Guy at December 05, 2021 09:33 PM (4cEdi)

251 I just solved the propane problem by getting a natural gas grill and running my own gas line out to the deck.

Posted by: Ironwood at December 05, 2021 10:08 PM (6YMId)

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