"QAnon Shaman" Sentenced to Nearly Four Years in Jail -- For... Trespassing

They also claim he "obstructed" the functioning of Congress -- a charge that has never before been laid against any protester disrupting a congressional vote or hearing.

And he "obstructed" Congress for like, what, an hour and a half?

Non-violently, of course.

Though they're apparently charging him with... other people's violence.

Because he made himself "emblematic" of the whole event, by being a striking, photogenic person that the media loved putting on the front page.

While most antifa who attacked people at the RNC weren't even charged, and those who were charged were sentenced to time served.

He's been rotting in solitary confinement for 10 months. And now he'll spend 31 months more in jail.

For... "parading in a public place."

The sentence matches one imposed by a judge on a former mixed martial artist Scott Fairlamb, who was filmed punching a police officer during violence, who was sentenced last week to 41 months in prison.

Parading is just as bad as punching a cop.

And also, no antifa or BLM "peaceful protesters" punched a cop.

Lamberth said he believed Chansley, who made a lengthy speech before he was sentenced, had done a lot to convince the court he is 'on the right track.'
Chansley's attorneys asked the judge for a sentence of time served for their client, who has been detained since his January arrest. He appeared in court in a dark green prison jumpsuit, with a beard and shaved head.
'He made himself the image of the riot, didn't he?' Lamberth said to Chansley's lawyers. 'For good or bad, he made himself the very image of this whole event.'

"Making yourself the image of the event" is now a crime, or an intensifier to the crime of parading. In the first degree.

You might think, "Well, they have to punish a violent offender, right?"

Nope. Cheney committed no violent acts. Not even charged with any violence.

lenn Greenwald
@ggreenwald
He got 41 months in prison, after already spending 10 months in solitary confinement.
Only a sick, punitive society imprisons non-violent protesters for years in harsh conditions -- or one that regards particular ideologies as inherently criminal:
Josh Gerstein
@joshgerstein
Feds seeking 51-month sentence for Chansley, although he's not accused of and did not admit to violence

But he made the KarenPundits upset -- he disturbed their 8 hours-per-day ritual of obsessing over Twitter-- and he "paraded" and "made himself the image of the event," so he's going to be treated as if he committed one tenth of the violence that antifa thugs commit and get no time for.

Julie Kelly
@julie_kelly2
WTF Lamberth says Chansley was "smart" to plea because other J6 defendants with same charges face 20 years in jail. Nothing like a biased warning to others to take DOJ plea deals. WOW.
For the morons now trolling every post, Chansley, unlike 2020 rioters, committed no violent crime. He did not destroy any property, use a weapon, or assault an officer. He was allowed into the building. He pleaded guilty to obstruction, a charge never before used on protesters.

Julie Kelly livetweeted this horror show. She was monitoring the feed. It's sickening.

Update:

Here's how Newsmax decided to report this:

Newsmax

@newsmax

13m

A federal judge on Wednesday sentenced the U.S. Capitol protester nicknamed the "QAnon Shaman" for his horned headdress to 41 months in prison for his role in the deadly Jan. 6 attack.

"Deadly"?

You mean when Capitol Police officer Michael Byrd executed an unarmed female veteran?

Is that what you mean, "conservative alternative to Fox" Newsmax?

Contrary to what DOJ claims in court filings, Chansley clearly is seen on video talking to Capitol police, who do not arrest him and advise him "no attacking, no assault, remain calm."https://t.co/P5ZSdLWBMv
— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) November 17, 2021

DOJ objecting to use of word "peaceful." "If the defendant had acted peaceful that day, we wouldn't be here." DOJ says he posted "vitriolic messages" on social media before January 6" including "Stop the Steal."

OH NO

"That is not peaceful, it's a call to battle."
— Julie Kelly 🇺🇸 (@julie_kelly2) November 17, 2021

But antifa's calls to "Burn it down" are just... what? Protected first amendment speech I guess.

But "Stop the Steal" is an illegal "call to battle."

Fuck this country.

Since "Burn it down" is protected speech, at least when spoken by antifa and BLM:

Burn it down. Burn it all down. "Fire and riots and bloodshed," as BLM lead Hawk Newsome said.

I'm antifa or BLM, now, I just decided, so I'm allowed to say that. I'm part of The Regime's unofficial (but official) street paramilitary forces/vigilante Social Justice Enforcement Units. So now I have the Special Rights of "Fiery But Mostly Peaceful Protest" that antifa and BLM have.

25 Rand Paul just called, to remind us the Washington DC prosecutors never even arrested the Antifites who assaulted his wife and him as they walked to their car from the fucking White House and the policeman who protected them was put in the hospital by the rioters, as he tried to protect the Pauls.
Posted by: Huck Follywood

Posted by: Ace at 01:19 PM

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1 Hey there

Posted by: Doof at November 17, 2021 01:20 PM (mZUr4)

2 Corgis called

Posted by: Doof at November 17, 2021 01:20 PM (mZUr4)

3

The Garland Archipelago gets another political prisoner.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 17, 2021 01:21 PM (s2VJv)

4 We are so screwed

Posted by: It's me donna at November 17, 2021 01:21 PM (87qwM)

5 Glad this heinous criminal is off the streets

Posted by: Doof at November 17, 2021 01:21 PM (mZUr4)

6 Should have sashayed

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 17, 2021 01:21 PM (D/37N)

7 If this guy goes away for four years just imagine the sentence Schiff gets.

Oh yeah...Democrat.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2021 01:22 PM (A0cwl)

8 Double posted. Did Ace ban himself again too?

Posted by: OrangeEnt at November 17, 2021 01:22 PM (7bRMQ)

9 Double posted

This is doubly heinous

Posted by: It's me donna at November 17, 2021 01:22 PM (87qwM)

10 The guy is a fruitcake, at worse he should be getting community service or do an alternate "story time" for the kiddies.

TRUST THE PLAN KIDS!

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 17, 2021 01:22 PM (wAnMi)

11 They really really want to break us, don't they?

Posted by: grammie winger at November 17, 2021 01:23 PM (45fpk)

12 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Michael Byrd MURDERED Ashli Babbitt at November 17, 2021 01:23 PM (Zz0t1)

13 this is really really scary

Posted by: BlackOrchid at November 17, 2021 01:23 PM (j9HX3)

14 The American people are generally an enemy of the state.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2021 01:23 PM (z5Vrg)

15 "....liberty and justice for all.".....yeah, yeah.

Posted by: BignJames at November 17, 2021 01:23 PM (AwYPR)

16 This is not America anymore.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 17, 2021 01:23 PM (bDqIh)

17 *Types* *Deletes*

Posted by: Guzalot says FJB at November 17, 2021 01:23 PM (prSvo)

18 They're using the knout followed by the whip soon.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 17, 2021 01:23 PM (D/37N)

19 Hey, keep complaining and I'll sentence him to be run over by a tank.

Posted by: Federal Judge and budding Chicom at November 17, 2021 01:24 PM (f/JpP)

20 13 this is really really scary
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It is.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at November 17, 2021 01:24 PM (sWM8x)

21 This is Stalin-Era "justice." There's no other way to describe it.

Posted by: PabloD at November 17, 2021 01:24 PM (mKffp)

22 Saw on Gab that piles of bricks are being spotted all around Kenosha. Just like last summer. Hope it is not true.

Posted by: Jmel at November 17, 2021 01:24 PM (RWHIh)

23 [REDACTED]

Posted by: runner at November 17, 2021 01:24 PM (DMcz+)

24 The new Nelson Mandela?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 17, 2021 01:24 PM (63Dwl)

25 Rand Paul just called, to remind us the Washington DC prosecutors never even arrested the Antifites who assaulted his wife and him as they walked to their car from the fucking White House and the policeman who protected them was put in the hospital by the rioters, as he tried to protect the Pauls.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2021 01:24 PM (A0cwl)

26 Stuff like this is why the Rittenhouse trial is so important. Us plebs should not be allowed to stand up to the tyrants, pimps, drug kingpins, and robber barons running our continent.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at November 17, 2021 01:24 PM (IJES/)

27 I'm antifa or BLM, now, I just decided, so I'm allowed to say that.
Posted by: Ace at 01:19 PM

Half the battle is admitting it. We've made progress today.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 17, 2021 01:24 PM (wAnMi)

28 30 years of our side accepting double standards, now here we are.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 17, 2021 01:25 PM (ZZK0E)

29 @ElectionWiz 1m

NEW: Steve Bannon files a motion with the court waiving his right to tomorrow's scheduled arraignment and enters a plea of NOT GUILTY to charges criminal contempt of Congress

https://tinyurl.com/ydojcuqe

Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2021 01:25 PM (cF8AT)

30 I assume his defense was paid for by the Fred Flintstone and the rest of the water buffalo lodge.

Posted by: Flyguy at November 17, 2021 01:25 PM (3sOO0)

31 I see everything twice!

Posted by: Patient with Yossarian in hospial at November 17, 2021 01:25 PM (AMIL/)

32 They really really want to break us, don't they?
Posted by: grammie winger at November 17, 2021 01:23 PM (45fpk)

Yes.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 17, 2021 01:25 PM (Ez6QX)

33 Is your your mind right boy?
Judge Lamberth

Posted by: steevy at November 17, 2021 01:26 PM (CYnTg)

34 Stuff like this is why the Rittenhouse trial is so important. Us plebs should not be allowed to stand up to the tyrants, pimps, drug kingpins, and robber barons running our continent.
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The Rittenhouse "trial" is actually like a Public Service Announcement. You better shut up, sit down, or else.

Posted by: The More You Know at November 17, 2021 01:26 PM (9pJyj)

35 What if there four identical posts?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 17, 2021 01:26 PM (D/37N)

36 But our tech overlords' stock options are safe, so the GOPe can celebrate another glorious victory for our noble law enforcers, yaaaayyyyy!!

Posted by: JewishOdysseus at November 17, 2021 01:26 PM (bvp+i)

37 35 What if there four identical posts?

The Four posts of the Apocalypse ?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 17, 2021 01:27 PM (87qwM)

38 26 Stuff like this is why the Rittenhouse trial is so important. Us plebs should not be allowed to stand up to the tyrants, pimps, drug kingpins, and robber barons running our continent.

Posted by: BifBewalski @ (IJES/) - at November 17, 2021 01:24 PM (IJES/)
- - - - - - -

Individually they can take us down one by one. Together we are Legion.

Posted by: Guzalot says FJB at November 17, 2021 01:27 PM (prSvo)

39 He may have been a non-violent actor, but he was deliberately menacing during the commission of his crimes and he committed those crimes in the context of an attempted revolutionary overthrow of the legitimate government. Context matters, and the context here is clear: he specifically was non-violent as a matter of chance rather than design.

He and everyone else there that day in the attempted insurrection had violent intent. Just because some participants chose not to realize their violent intent (or lacked the opportunity to do so) does not change the fact that the entire incident was inherently, deliberately and specifically violent in terms of intent and outcome. He was there supporting, encouraging and advancing that violence. He any everyone else in the masses of fellow travelers should be punished to the fullest possible extent of the law. The only miscarriage of justice here is that so many participants will walk away free.

Posted by: Your Kid's Criminal Justice Professor at November 17, 2021 01:27 PM (DU+/6)

40 31 I see everything twice!
Posted by: Patient with Yossarian in hospial at November 17, 2021 01:25 PM (AMIL/)

"I'm gonna go get the papers, get the papers."

- - Joey Two-Times

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 17, 2021 01:27 PM (s2VJv)

41 22 Saw on Gab that piles of bricks are being spotted all around Kenosha. Just like last summer. Hope it is not true.
Posted by: Jmel at November 17, 2021 01:24 PM (RWHIh)

Some enterprising contractor needs to run around with a cement mixer and pour cement on those brick piles.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at November 17, 2021 01:27 PM (GD2xa)

42 Well looks like Europe was finally right, fascism has landed in America.

Posted by: Bete at November 17, 2021 01:27 PM (Ojki1)

43 They will release him when he professes his love for Big Br...I meanJoe Biden and agrees that 2+2 = 5

Posted by: steevy at November 17, 2021 01:27 PM (CYnTg)

44 What if there four identical posts?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 17, 2021 01:26 PM (D/37N)

The post painted blue is the right one.

Posted by: Amish Dad with Unmarried Daughter at November 17, 2021 01:28 PM (7bRMQ)

45 22 Saw on Gab that piles of bricks are being spotted all around Kenosha. Just like last summer. Hope it is not true.
Posted by: Jmel at November 17, 2021 01:24 PM (RWHIh)

What would it take to organize the citizenry to go around and take them away?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 17, 2021 01:28 PM (s2VJv)

46 What if there four identical posts?

The Four posts of the Apocalypse ?
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So one was the accidental posting of lesbian porn

Two was the accidental self banning by Ace

what are three and four?

Posted by: Just want to know where I am at November 17, 2021 01:28 PM (9pJyj)

47 30 years of our side accepting double standards, now here we are.
Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 17, 2021 01:25 PM (ZZK0E)

Bipartisan compromise! Reaching across the isle and finding common ground! We fight for you!

Patriot! Please donate today so we can continue to stop the democrats on these important issues and keep our country great! For the next hour only, 500X Matching!

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at November 17, 2021 01:28 PM (wAnMi)

48 This is insane.

This is not America. She's dead.

Now, who fights back against the corrupt and incredibly well funded government?

Mafia needs a revival.

Posted by: Sponge - Michael Byrd MURDERED Ashli Babbitt at November 17, 2021 01:28 PM (Zz0t1)

49 An element of the left got tired of waiting for the frogs to boil and has cranked up the burner. The frogs have noticed and they're going to react. It will not be predictable.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at November 17, 2021 01:28 PM (uhPTO)

50 Awful, just awful. Can he appeal?

Posted by: bluebell at November 17, 2021 01:28 PM (wyw4S)

51 42 Well looks like Europe was finally right, fascism has landed in America.
Posted by: Bete at November 17, 2021 01:27 PM (Ojki1)

"Wrapped in an American Flag."

- - Huey Long

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 17, 2021 01:29 PM (s2VJv)

52 I will never forget that video of 20+ dudes dressed all in black jumping in through a side window prior to the protestors entering the Capitol.

The fact that the powers that be are simultaneously getting away with this and crushing everyday people is incredibly disheartening.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at November 17, 2021 01:29 PM (KbCG3)

53 You will repeat after me....Joe Biden received 81 million votes
Judge Lamberth

Posted by: steevy at November 17, 2021 01:29 PM (CYnTg)

54 Anyone have an active link to the Rittenhouse trial?

Posted by: Braenyard at November 17, 2021 01:29 PM (xlA0I)

55 50 Awful, just awful. Can he appeal?
Posted by: bluebell at November 17, 2021 01:28 PM (wyw4S)

He'll wind up with Emmett Sullivan or Amy Berman Jackson.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 17, 2021 01:29 PM (s2VJv)

56 Some enterprising contractor needs to run around with a cement mixer and pour cement on those brick piles.
Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at November 17, 2021 01:27 PM (GD2xa)

...

Rig them with a claymore.

Posted by: TexasDan at November 17, 2021 01:29 PM (z9npv)

57 "Stop The Steal" post anywhere in your comment record?

It just earned this poor soul four years in the big house. Tell me again how America has a justice system fair for all.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2021 01:30 PM (A0cwl)

58 We morphed into being soviet Russia, complete with political prisoners.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 17, 2021 01:30 PM (XvPQV)

59

What difference, at this point, does it make?!//1!?!!1/1?!

*hic*

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at November 17, 2021 01:30 PM (K2SnJ)

60 Awful, just awful. Can he appeal?
Posted by: bluebell at November 17, 2021 01:28 PM (wyw4S)
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You can always appeal. And the appeal will fail. He's a political prisoner. Political prisoners don't have anything to do with justice.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2021 01:30 PM (DU+/6)

61 @somebitchiknow
Counter protesters took advantage of a lull in BLM's chanting: "We all need to come together and give Joseph Rosenbaum's ex-boyfriend a present for his 5th grade graduation"

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 17, 2021 01:30 PM (wAnMi)

62 35 What if there four identical posts?
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 17, 2021 01:26 PM (D/37N)

No, there are five posts...

Posted by: Tech Overlord who watched too much DS9 at November 17, 2021 01:30 PM (oHd/0)

63 35 What if there four identical posts?

there are *four* posts!

Posted by: jean luc picard at November 17, 2021 01:30 PM (oVO/h)

64 We morphed into being soviet Russia, complete with political prisoners.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 17, 2021 01:30 PM (XvPQV)

Sad, but true.

Posted by: Sponge - Michael Byrd MURDERED Ashli Babbitt at November 17, 2021 01:30 PM (Zz0t1)

65 48 Mafia needs a revival.
Posted by: Sponge - Michael Byrd MURDERED Ashli Babbitt at November 17, 2021 01:28 PM (Zz0t1)

"Tanned, rested and ready!"

- - Oxmyx & Kracko, LLC

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 17, 2021 01:30 PM (s2VJv)

66 We will never know the true story of that day unless Trump takes the throne.

Note well: I'm fine with no more Presidents

Posted by: Lrrr at November 17, 2021 01:30 PM (jIL4c)

67 Many years ago, I was involved in a civil suit in which the husband of a woman killed in a traffic accident alleged that the Toyota van in which she was killed was improperly designed. I thought that the folks who brought you WWII put on an excellent case. The woman had been driving on the wrong side of the road while looking into the rear view mirror applying her make up. The jury was out longer than I expected when they sent out a question concerning the mechanics of calculating punative damages. I was young and not totally beaten by life into cynicism as I am now so I was outraged that the plaintiff was going to collect on such a flimsy suit. The Toyota samurai saw the writing on the wall and settled. When the judge told the jury that their services were no longer required, they were outraged because they were going to find for the Rising Sun. They sent the punative damages question out just because they were curious.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 17, 2021 01:31 PM (FVME7)

68 He's a total nut job, a Soros plant, put there to make all MAGA people seem nuts.
Doesn't deserve the sentence, but none of them do.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 17, 2021 01:31 PM (jTmQV)

69 Anyone have an active link to the Rittenhouse trial?
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No, but word is nothing must be happening because Littlefinger is cruising a dating app right now. IYKWIMAITTYD

Posted by: Just want to know where I am at November 17, 2021 01:31 PM (6WsyM)

70 Here's a good pic of the difference in the video quality in the Rittenhouse case. Top video is the one the prosecutor used in court. Bottom video is the one that was never reported to defense that the prosecutor had.

@ColumbiaBugle

Video Provided To The Defense Vs. The Prosecution's Copy

https://tinyurl.com/yeaycd6z

Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2021 01:31 PM (cF8AT)

71 Anyone have an active link to the Rittenhouse trial?
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Ace posted one yesterday, I think. LegalInsurrection has one. I'm listening to this while I work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbnc9IfSe3Q

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2021 01:31 PM (A0cwl)

72 @somebitchiknow
Counter protesters took advantage of a lull in BLM's chanting: "We all need to come together and give Joseph Rosenbaum's ex-boyfriend a present for his 5th grade graduation"
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 17, 2021 01:30 PM (wAnMi)

Weapons grade trolling.

Posted by: Sponge - Michael Byrd MURDERED Ashli Babbitt at November 17, 2021 01:31 PM (Zz0t1)

73 63 35 What if there four identical posts?

there are *four* posts!

Posted by: jean luc picard at November 17, 2021 01:30 PM (oVO/h)

No, there is another...

Posted by: Zombie Obi-Wan Kenobi at November 17, 2021 01:31 PM (AMIL/)

74 Unexpectedly.

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! at November 17, 2021 01:32 PM (wSX5X)

75 "Hey Boss, we gonna need some of dem heaters."

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 17, 2021 01:32 PM (D/37N)

76 Cheney to the judge -- "I got my head right, Boss."

"Shaking that bush, Boss."

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 17, 2021 01:32 PM (F0YaR)

77 Saw on Gab that piles of bricks are being spotted all around Kenosha. Just like last summer. Hope it is not true.

If they're spotted why the heck aren't people doing something about it, or are they being protected by the nice gals and girls from Antifa/Black Lives Matter?. I suppose if the trial goes against Kyle they can have Antifa dress up with Maga hats and burn things down, and it goes in support of Kyle they can just riot as themselves

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 17, 2021 01:32 PM (YK8CE)

78 What if there four identical posts?

there are *four* posts!

Posted by: jean luc picard at November 17, 2021 01:30 PM (oVO/h)

No, there is another...
Posted by: Zombie Obi-Wan Kenobi at November 17, 2021 01:31 PM (AMIL/)
From a certain point of view?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 17, 2021 01:32 PM (XvPQV)

79 Let this be a warning to all you MAGA right wing knuckle draggers! Don't sit in my fucking chair!! EVER!!!

Posted by: Crazy Speaker Nancy at November 17, 2021 01:32 PM (/4P8i)

80 *types*

*deletes*

fuck it, i'm in antifa and blm now too.

hell, half my wardrobe is black...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at November 17, 2021 01:32 PM (8D42x)

81 We can vote our way out of this, right?

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 17, 2021 01:33 PM (iFTx/)

82 What if there four identical posts?
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 17, 2021 01:26 PM (D/37N)

One if by land, two if by sea, three if by gerbil, four if by hypersonic missile.

Posted by: Flyguy at November 17, 2021 01:33 PM (3sOO0)

83
Disgusting. But where's the charge of insurrection? I wouldn't have taken the 'deal'. Prove the insurrection charge muthafvckers.

I saw the low barricades moved out of the way for people to pass. I saw the Capitol Police holding doors open, I saw 'QAnon' talking peacefully to the CP.

We don't have a country anymore. This is Banana Republic shit.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at November 17, 2021 01:33 PM (dQvv7)

84 He's a total nut job, a Soros plant, put there to make all MAGA people seem nuts.
Doesn't deserve the sentence, but none of them do.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 17, 2021 01:31 PM (jTmQV)

Yep, there was tons of photographic evidence of this guy attending BLM/antifa rallies for a solid 2 years. Even without the ridiculous makeup, the tats were a giveaway. But, just like all the video evidence we have of 1/6, it's all ignored or discarded. Why and how did he manage to get placed up front and the media was ready for him at every turn? Whoops, sorry. Can't ask lucid questions.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 17, 2021 01:33 PM (wAnMi)

85 Isn't this guy mentally ill, as in has a history of treatment for same - in addition to his public behavior, which is obviously wack?

And of course there's the video of him calmly discussing things with Cap Police, and then exhorting his colleagues to behave, or something, as I recall.

I still have no real idea what happened that day, I mean, the relevant parts of what happened. There was some violence, and lots of idiocy. Involving a small number of the protesters (it wasn't hundreds or thousands going into the Senate chamber).

I do know from years in the building that the Cap Police were idiots to allow any entry of any kind - simplest thing in the world to seal off that building. But the Cap Police being incompetent is not news to anyone familiar with the place.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 17, 2021 01:33 PM (OTzUX)

86 You'll be happy to hear that gab is saying the police scanner in Kenosha is mentioning pallets of bricks being placed around.

Posted by: artemis

They sprout up everywhere like weeds!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 17, 2021 01:33 PM (FVME7)

87 22 Saw on Gab that piles of bricks are being spotted all around Kenosha. Just like last summer. Hope it is not true.
Posted by: Jmel at November 17, 2021 01:24 PM (RWHIh)
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Is it legal to hunt over bait in Wisconsin?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2021 01:33 PM (f871o)

88 "QAnon Shaman" Sentenced to Nearly Four Years in Jail
........

It was the hat.

Posted by: wth at November 17, 2021 01:33 PM (v0R5T)

89 54 Anyone have an active link to the Rittenhouse trial?
Posted by: Braenyard at November 17, 2021 01:29 PM (xlA0I)

Retieka Law:
https://tinyurl.com/yh6dfdes

Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2021 01:33 PM (cF8AT)

90 Disgusting. But where's the charge of insurrection? I wouldn't have taken the 'deal'. Prove the insurrection charge muthafvckers.

I saw the low barricades moved out of the way for people to pass. I saw the Capitol Police holding doors open, I saw 'QAnon' talking peacefully to the CP.

We don't have a country anymore. This is Banana Republic shit.
Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at November 17, 2021 01:33 PM (dQvv7)

Yeah, this guys lawyer sucked. Public Defender?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 17, 2021 01:33 PM (oHd/0)

91 These judges have to have been blackmailed or bribed . Unbelievable. Simply unbelievable.

Posted by: Oddknot at November 17, 2021 01:34 PM (LXZjJ)

92 83
Disgusting. But where's the charge of insurrection? I wouldn't have taken the 'deal'. Prove the insurrection charge muthafvckers.

I saw the low barricades moved out of the way for people to pass. I saw the Capitol Police holding doors open, I saw 'QAnon' talking peacefully to the CP.

We don't have a country anymore. This is Banana Republic shit.
Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at November 17, 2021 01:33 PM (dQvv7)

Well, then vigilante death squads and star chambers are sure to follow. So be it. Sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 17, 2021 01:34 PM (s2VJv)

93 54 Anyone have an active link to the Rittenhouse trial?
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The feed isn't active yet. Here's Rickieta Law. They're discussing the case:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbnc9IfSe3Q

Here's a feed from PBS:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6qRzJcyvY0

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at November 17, 2021 01:34 PM (sWM8x)

94 People! Just get on the box cars, the Democrats have promised to meet us half way at the camp! We're gonna dialogue!

* adjusts bowtie *

Posted by: A conservative policy expert at November 17, 2021 01:34 PM (fe8qf)

95 Saw on Gab that piles of bricks are being spotted all around Kenosha. Just like last summer. Hope it is not true.

Posted by: Jmel at November 17, 2021 01:24 PM (RWHIh)

Kenosha is a long way from me, and presumably employs a police force.

IDC.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 17, 2021 01:35 PM (lvLhX)

96 79 Let this be a warning to all you MAGA right wing knuckle draggers! Don't sit in my fucking chair!! EVER!!!
Posted by: Crazy Speaker Nancy at November 17, 2021 01:32 PM (/4P8i)

We'll just shit in your driveway then.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 17, 2021 01:35 PM (s2VJv)

97 Ace posted one yesterday, I think. LegalInsurrection has one. I'm listening to this while I work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbnc9IfSe3Q
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2021 01:31 PM (A0cwl)
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Thanks, that's the one.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 17, 2021 01:35 PM (xlA0I)

98
Yeah, this guys lawyer sucked. Public Defender?
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 17, 2021 01:33 PM (oHd/0)

I'm quite sure they count on the fact that the average person can't afford a quality attorney in these cases.

Posted by: Sponge - Michael Byrd MURDERED Ashli Babbitt at November 17, 2021 01:35 PM (Zz0t1)

99 78 What if there four identical posts?

there are *four* posts!
Posted by: jean luc picard at November 17, 2021 01:30 PM (oVO/h)

No, there is another...
Posted by: Zombie Obi-Wan Kenobi at November 17, 2021 01:31 PM (AMIL/)
From a certain point of view?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 17, 2021 01:32 PM (XvPQV)

I refer you to my outstanding cameo in "The Empire Strikes Back."

Posted by: Zombie Alec Guiness at November 17, 2021 01:35 PM (AMIL/)

100 He should have dressed as a Drag Queen instead of an antelope.

Posted by: Javems at November 17, 2021 01:35 PM (AmoqO)

101 We can't live like this.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 17, 2021 01:35 PM (7b2L9)

102 The People's House.

Posted by: wth at November 17, 2021 01:36 PM (v0R5T)

103 A banana republic if you can keep it.

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! at November 17, 2021 01:36 PM (wSX5X)

104 91 Nope, they do it gleefully to subhuman Trumpkins...

Posted by: steevy at November 17, 2021 01:36 PM (CYnTg)

105 >@ColumbiaBugle

Video Provided To The Defense Vs. The Prosecution's Copy

https://tinyurl.com/yeaycd6z
Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2021 01:31 PM (cF8AT)

That's strikingly different. I'm sure it was a total accident that they downscaled the video to potato quality before submitting it.

(Also, Columbia Bugle, "No Logarithm"??? Come on, be better.)

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 17, 2021 01:36 PM (cSs/W)

106 Newsmax

@newsmax

13m

A federal judge on Wednesday sentenced the U.S. Capitol protester nicknamed the "QAnon Shaman" for his horned headdress to 41 months in prison for his role in the deadly Jan. 6 attack.

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2021 01:36 PM (0G13K)

107 Well it was sure as hell deadly for Ashli Babbitt.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:36 PM (KZzsI)

108 I know one thing: I've made my last ever visit to the Capital. If people get arrested inside the Capital and go to prison for previously objecting to the Dominion election...

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2021 01:36 PM (A0cwl)

109 Take this as a warning to Us to not step out of "line" or it's the cattle cars for us

Posted by: It's me donna at November 17, 2021 01:36 PM (87qwM)

110 I want the savages to riot

Posted by: steevy at November 17, 2021 01:36 PM (CYnTg)

111 A banana republic?

Hope they slip on the peel.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 17, 2021 01:37 PM (D/37N)

112 To be seen for what they are. Again

Posted by: steevy at November 17, 2021 01:37 PM (CYnTg)

113 I saw the low barricades moved out of the way for people to pass. I saw the Capitol Police holding doors open, I saw 'QAnon' talking peacefully to the CP.
We don't have a country anymore. This is Banana Republic shit.
Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at November 17, 2021 01:33 PM (dQvv7)

Too bad we're censored at every turn. I also have to doubt some on "our side" when so many facts fail to get out there. I'm actually shocked this video hasn't been pulled down, I bookmarked a dozen+ on twatter and they're all gone. This video has more questions than answers. They're obviously being let in, a discussion of the "act" taking place as they go up the stairs, and press already in position.

https://tinyurl.com/32w2ruuc

And more below - scroll down.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 17, 2021 01:37 PM (wAnMi)

114 This is why I always preferred OAN to Newsmax.

Posted by: Dr. T at November 17, 2021 01:37 PM (bhRsz)

115 No buffaloes were killed in the making of this hat.

Posted by: wth at November 17, 2021 01:37 PM (v0R5T)

116 "Deadly"

Et tu Newsmax?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 17, 2021 01:37 PM (ptqGC)

117 America is over. Act accordingly

Posted by: trump at November 17, 2021 01:37 PM (GSJcT)

118 @newsmax
A federal judge on Wednesday sentenced the U.S. Capitol protester nicknamed the "QAnon Shaman" for his horned headdress to 41 months in prison for his role in the deadly Jan. 6 attack.
Posted by: ace at November 17, 2021 01:36 PM (0G13K)
++++
Newsmax: We looked okay for a moment, but we were lying.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2021 01:37 PM (DU+/6)

119 i actually posted four identical posts about newsmax in the sidebar. fixed it now.

Posted by: ace at November 17, 2021 01:37 PM (0G13K)

120 (Also, Columbia Bugle, "No Logarithm"??? Come on, be better.)
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 17, 2021 01:36 PM (cSs/W)

I don't think that's the Columbia Bugle. Said the same thing on the ones that Retieka law was showing.

Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2021 01:37 PM (cF8AT)

121 He should appeal.

Posted by: runner at November 17, 2021 01:38 PM (DMcz+)

122 @newsmax

13m

A federal judge on Wednesday sentenced the U.S. Capitol protester nicknamed the "QAnon Shaman" for his horned headdress to 41 months in prison for his role in the deadly Jan. 6 attack.
Posted by: ace at November 17, 2021 01:36 PM (0G13K)

The only death was murder by cop.......asshole media.

Posted by: Sponge - Michael Byrd MURDERED Ashli Babbitt at November 17, 2021 01:38 PM (Zz0t1)

123 Always " deadly attack" deadly to Ashli Babbitt

Posted by: steevy at November 17, 2021 01:38 PM (CYnTg)

124 "Downward departure" from what? When judges use that language, it means there are sentencing "guidelines" for the crime to which he is pleading. That means he's stuck with the recommended sentence unless he can prove mitigating circumstances (which is often hard to show).

What crime was he charged with that justified four years in jail??

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 17, 2021 01:38 PM (iFTx/)

125 A federal judge on Wednesday sentenced the U.S. Capitol protester nicknamed the "QAnon Shaman" for his horned headdress to 41 months in prison for his role in the deadly Jan. 6 attack.
Posted by: ace at November 17, 2021 01:36 PM (0G13K)

Deadly. Wow.

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 17, 2021 01:38 PM (Ez6QX)

126 This is probably in poor taste, but I don't have enough caffeine to make it sound less tacky or stupid, but I'm pretty sure there's a kernel of a good question here...

Was he unable to get even a halfway decent lawyer? I know good ones expensive and court-appointed ones are overworked and all that, but jeeeeez, man.

Is the prosecution and The System(tm) so corrupt and awful that *waves hand*? Huh?

Like, okay, if he was semi-credibly accused of something rilly rilly badd that no respectable attorney would touch the case, that's one thing.

But *inarticulate gibbering*

Am I the crazy one here? Am I missing something simple and obvious?

Posted by: Lance McCormick, possibly a crazyperson at November 17, 2021 01:38 PM (l8gTz)

127 He should appeal.

.....

Lololololololololololololol!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 17, 2021 01:38 PM (lvLhX)

128 A federal judge on Wednesday sentenced the U.S. Capitol protester nicknamed the "QAnon Shaman" for his horned headdress to 41 months in prison for his role in the deadly Jan. 6 attack.
Posted by: ace at November 17, 2021 01:36 PM (0G13K)

Clearly the Judge was incensed by his portrayal as a member of the Loyal Order of Waterbuffaloes!

As the Judge is the Grand Poohbah of said order...

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 17, 2021 01:38 PM (oHd/0)

129 We'll just shit in your ~~driveway~~ ice cream then.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 17, 2021 01:35 PM (s2VJv)

FIFY

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 17, 2021 01:38 PM (wAnMi)

130 119 i actually posted four identical posts about newsmax in the sidebar. fixed it now.
Posted by: ace at November 17, 2021 01:37 PM (0G13K)

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This is what makes the HQ special.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 17, 2021 01:38 PM (ptqGC)

131 You'll be happy to hear that gab is saying the police scanner in Kenosha is mentioning pallets of bricks being placed around.

Posted by: artemis

And someone just robbed Applebees. These folks have bad taste.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 17, 2021 01:38 PM (45fpk)

132 This is why I always preferred OAN to Newsmax.

Me too. Newsmax has been busted pushing just absolute fabrications many times in the past, and has shown its self to be amenable to changing so that they can get onto platforms that demand wokeness.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:39 PM (KZzsI)

133 This is what happens when you allow an election to be stolen.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 17, 2021 01:39 PM (WSMgR)

134 This is how a government radicalizes the opposition

Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at November 17, 2021 01:39 PM (5OPdY)

135 Newsmax recently banned Emerald Robinson because she committed thought crimes.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 17, 2021 01:39 PM (h/pNJ)

136 What if there four identical posts?

-
Beats a full house.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 17, 2021 01:39 PM (FVME7)

137 Something, Something, long train of abuses...

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 17, 2021 01:40 PM (IUFR3)

138 He should appeal.

I am certain a competent lawyer can find grounds to, but would the results be any different?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:40 PM (KZzsI)

139 Is Newsmax Jerome Corsi's outfit?

Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 17, 2021 01:40 PM (jTmQV)

140 Looks like Newsmax outed themselves as yet another enemy of the people who need their press passes yanked in perpetuity.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 17, 2021 01:40 PM (2JVJo)

141 119 i actually posted four identical posts about newsmax in the sidebar. fixed it now.
Posted by: ace at November 17, 2021 01:37 PM (0G13K)

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It's a stutter!

Posted by: 496 at November 17, 2021 01:40 PM (U1eOr)

142 119 i actually posted four identical posts about newsmax in the sidebar. fixed it now.
Posted by: ace at November 17, 2021 01:37 PM (0G13K)

No, there were FIVE posts...

Posted by: Guy who watched too much Star Trek at November 17, 2021 01:40 PM (oHd/0)

143 This is why I always preferred OAN to Newsmax.
Posted by: Dr. T at November 17, 2021 01:37 PM (bhRsz)
~~~~~

Same here.

Also, Newsmax people are forbidden to say that there was any fraud connected to the 2020 election.

Posted by: IrishEi at November 17, 2021 01:40 PM (7b2L9)

144 Newsmax recently banned Emerald Robinson because she committed thought crimes.

Exactly. She's one of the very few actual journalists working today, and you ban her? Seriously?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:40 PM (KZzsI)

145
This is what happens when you allow an election to be stolen.
Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 17, 2021 01:39 PM (WSMgR)

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Once the American people swallowed that obvious election theft, that was it. Everything that happens from here on out is because they got away with this. When future historians write about the half-century (or more) of American tyranny before its final collapse, the 2020 election will be the starting marker. Having gotten by with that, the authoritarian socialists are safe to proceed with all plans. They know there will be no check on them ever again. At least until the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 17, 2021 01:40 PM (/KPLX)

146 Competent lawyers turn out in droves for muslim terrorists pro bono. But not for these people...

Posted by: steevy at November 17, 2021 01:41 PM (CYnTg)

147
And someone just robbed Applebees. These folks have bad taste.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 17, 2021 01:38 PM (45fpk)

These are desperate times though.

I can't even remember the last time I stepped foot in one of those places.

Posted by: Thrawn at November 17, 2021 01:41 PM (5aFbR)

148 You'll be happy to hear that gab is saying the police scanner in Kenosha is mentioning pallets of bricks being placed around.

.....

Probably fake news.

But if it were true, the City need only send public works down there with a dump trucks and workmen and they would be gone in 20 minutes.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 17, 2021 01:41 PM (lvLhX)

149 > Also, Columbia Bugle, "No Logarithm"??? Come on, be better.

It's a joke. They're making fun of Richards who said that in court.

iPads, which are made by Apple, have artificial intelligence in them that allow things to be viewed through three-dimensions and logarithms. It uses artificial intelligence, or their logarithms, to create what they believe is happening. So this isn't actually enhanced video, this is Apple's iPad programming creating what it thinks is there, not what necessarily is there

The freaking judge said "pickles" when he was trying to say, "pixels." These people are way out of their depth when it comes to tech.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 17, 2021 01:41 PM (sG4Hj)

150 Lindsey Graham thinks he should have been shot dead in cold blood on Jan 6.

Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 17, 2021 01:41 PM (2xGy+)

151 138 He should appeal.

I am certain a competent lawyer can find grounds to, but would the results be any different?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:40 PM (KZzsI)

He did a plea deal, don't think you can appeal that unless you can prove your lawyer was incompetent (like Gen. Flynn did).

Posted by: Guy who watched too much Star Trek at November 17, 2021 01:41 PM (oHd/0)

152 Well I'm kind of glad my father who fought in two wars didn't live to see the day that country he fought for die.

Sorry Dad, the assholes won.

Who wants to fight for what we have become now?

Posted by: pawn at November 17, 2021 01:41 PM (kYVzH)

153 Deadly.
Did the guy lower his head and gut a couple of congress critters?
STAMPEDE!

Posted by: wth at November 17, 2021 01:41 PM (v0R5T)

154
This is why I always preferred OAN to Newsmax.

Posted by: Dr. T at November 17, 2021 01:37 PM

I had to pay $5.00 a month to get OAN - AND listen to commercials, too. I'm okay with one or the other, but not both.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at November 17, 2021 01:41 PM (dQvv7)

155 A lot of the early newsmax people were leftist anti-clinton people. Still leftist though.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 17, 2021 01:41 PM (h/pNJ)

156 We can't live like this.
Posted by: IrishEi at November 17, 2021 01:35 PM

We don't expect you to live, IrishEi...we expect you to die.

Posted by: The ~~Democrat~~ Fascist Party at November 17, 2021 01:42 PM (uLogu)

157 146 Competent lawyers turn out in droves for muslim terrorists pro bono. But not for these people...
Posted by: steevy at November 17, 2021 01:41 PM (CYnTg)

It's not just me!

Posted by: Lance McCormick, looking all wild-eyed and disheveled at November 17, 2021 01:42 PM (l8gTz)

158 And someone just robbed Applebees. These folks have bad taste.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 17, 2021 01:38 PM (45fpk)

These are desperate times though.

I can't even remember the last time I stepped foot in one of those places.

Posted by: Thrawn at November 17, 2021 01:41 PM

The one near us closed when covid hit and they just now sold the building to some fried fish place.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at November 17, 2021 01:42 PM (bVYXr)

159 148 You'll be happy to hear that gab is saying the police scanner in Kenosha is mentioning pallets of bricks being placed around.

.....

Probably fake news.

But if it were true, the City need only send public works down there with a dump trucks and workmen and they would be gone in 20 minutes.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 17, 2021 01:41 PM (lvLhX)

The public works guys are tied up putting a boot on the judge's car in the courthouse lot.

Posted by: Roy at November 17, 2021 01:42 PM (Ti+Tv)

160 From a commentor on the Police Scanner Facebook page, regarding the bricks:

"Take pics and post them. Also post pics of any information on the pallets such as name of brick and stuff so it can be tracked later as to what brick distributor sold them and to who. This shit needs to stop."

Posted by: grammie winger at November 17, 2021 01:42 PM (45fpk)

161 And someone just robbed Applebees. These folks have bad taste.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 17, 2021 01:38 PM (45fpk)

Chemjeff?

Posted by: hogmartin at November 17, 2021 01:42 PM (P4LRL)

162 Even left wing polling shows that most Americans believe the election was stolen, there's just not a thing we can do about it this side of open revolt. The entire system failed us, every check and balance was rigged and in on it.

But if it were true, the City need only send public works down there with a dump trucks and workmen and they would be gone in 20 minutes.

"We need to give them space to protest! It would be racist not to!"
--Police Commissioner

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:43 PM (KZzsI)

163 So KR prosecution used video manipulated by software that is not for forensic purposes, only investigative.

Posted by: Barr Durham at November 17, 2021 01:43 PM (GGUjc)

164 And btw he did not " make himself the image of the riot" , the media did that. I hope...well I won't type it...

Posted by: steevy at November 17, 2021 01:43 PM (CYnTg)

165 Rand Paul just called, to remind us the Washington DC prosecutors never even arrested the Antifites who assaulted his wife and him as they walked to their car from the fucking White House and the policeman who protected them was put in the hospital by the rioters, as he tried to protect the Pauls.

Paul voted to award the Congressional Gold Medal to the murdering bastard capitol police. He can go horsefuck.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 17, 2021 01:43 PM (2JVJo)

166 He did a plea deal

Well then he was a dumbass.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:43 PM (KZzsI)

167 You'll be happy to hear that gab is saying the police scanner in Kenosha is mentioning pallets of bricks being placed around.

Posted by: artemis
.......

Well, the INFRASTRUCTURE bill just passed.

Posted by: wth at November 17, 2021 01:44 PM (v0R5T)

168 161 And someone just robbed Applebees. These folks have bad taste.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 17, 2021 01:38 PM (45fpk)

Chemjeff?
Posted by: hogmartin at November 17, 2021 01:42 PM (P4LRL)

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*iced tea everywhere*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 17, 2021 01:44 PM (ptqGC)

169 >>This is why I always preferred OAN to Newsmax.

Ruddy is a fucking commie. I unfollowed Jenna Ellis because she sucks Newsmax cock now.

Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 17, 2021 01:44 PM (2xGy+)

170 It is almost as if there really was coup-coup in November 2020 and they persecuting anyone who dare say so much as "boo" about it.

Posted by: Phuk Ho Le at November 17, 2021 01:44 PM (8DeyY)

171 Chemjeff?
Posted by: hogmartin at November 17, 2021 01:42 PM (P4LRL)

I was trying not to mention his name, but the pattern fits.

Posted by: Thrawn at November 17, 2021 01:44 PM (5aFbR)

172
Once the American people swallowed that obvious election theft, that was it. Everything that happens from here on out is because they got away with this. When future historians write about the half-century (or more) of American tyranny before its final collapse, the 2020 election will be the starting marker. Having gotten by with that, the authoritarian socialists are safe to proceed with all plans. They know there will be no check on them ever again. At least until the whole shithouse goes up in flames.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 17, 2021 01:40 PM (/KPLX)

This. A thousand times this. The die is cast (no pun intended). I think 50 years is generous, though. The country is splintering now, and that will accelerate with economic and cultural decline. Five years may be generous.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 17, 2021 01:44 PM (nMx88)

173 As soon as enough prisoners are gathered and Marxists see their feeding tens of thousands with no return slave labor happy camps will open, then to feed the camps anyone will be picked up.

Posted by: Skip's Phone at November 17, 2021 01:44 PM (PADkw)

174 What kind of fuckwhit can't cook a steak?

Posted by: steevy at November 17, 2021 01:44 PM (CYnTg)

175 The public works guys are tied up putting a boot on the judge's car in the courthouse lot.

.....

If your city refuses to stop rioting and you elected your city leaders, then you deserve to have your town burned down.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 17, 2021 01:44 PM (lvLhX)

176 I hope that shaman dude doesn't end up dying from botulism in his cell. At least he didn't rip down a poster while he was parading in the Capitol.

Posted by: Roy at November 17, 2021 01:44 PM (Ti+Tv)

177 OT, speaking of logarithmic cases:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXJKdh1KZ0w

Posted by: Lance McCormick, suddenly wearing a suit at November 17, 2021 01:45 PM (l8gTz)

178 166 He did a plea deal

Well then he was a dumbass.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:43 PM (KZzsI)

That was self evident from the pictures... but he also seems to have gotten really poor legal representation.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 17, 2021 01:45 PM (oHd/0)

179 Applebees used to be good back before they turned their menu into an encyclopedia. They got bought out by another corp from what I understand and they ruined the place.

Still, Olive Gardens are packed every night and they have some of the worst Italian food this side of a prison cafeteria.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:45 PM (KZzsI)

180 My s-i-l wanted very much to go to that rally. I can say with little doubt that she'd have gone into the capital given the chance. My brother, who never tells her what to do or not do, did tell her on this occasion that she should not go and that it would be a very big mistake to do so. She stayed home and, although I've never asked her, I bet she's glad she did.

Posted by: huerfano at November 17, 2021 01:45 PM (MzKgG)

181 In NYC you can throw a metal bench into an on coming bus, and literally not spend a night in jail. You can throw bricks through the windows of multiple synagogues (might have even tried to set one on fire) and prosecutors will actually bring the case to multiple judges until once agrees to not jail you. In Portland you can lock police in a building and set it on fire, and not even get arrested. But god forbid you take a walking tour of the Capitol building at the same time AOC decides to make a tiktok.

This is the tyranny the 2nd amendment was supposed to be for, but guess the time to fight tyranny is after they take away all your freedoms, so you can then claim "well i would have fought back but they took all my guns"

Posted by: Rbastid at November 17, 2021 01:45 PM (AxTZp)

182 He did a plea deal

Well then he was a dumbass.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Buffalo hat out front should've told you.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 17, 2021 01:45 PM (FVME7)

183 Photos of bricks being placed around town:
https://tinyurl.com/4hvy5y4s

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 17, 2021 01:45 PM (wAnMi)

184 Newsmax recently banned Emerald Robinson because she committed thought crimes.

Exactly. She's one of the very few actual journalists working today, and you ban her? Seriously?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:40 PM

She wrote an interesting article about one of the substances in the 'vaccine' with a demonic name, then ended the article with a call to read Revelations in the Bible. Then the cancel mob came after her and Newsmax knuckled.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at November 17, 2021 01:45 PM (dQvv7)

185 > So KR prosecution used video manipulated by software that is not for forensic purposes, only investigative.

That's the least of their video issues. That drone footage they relied on for the instigation argument is of completely unknown provenance. For all we know, that video was taken at 4k and downscaled before the prosecution downscaled it again and handed it to the defense.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 17, 2021 01:46 PM (sG4Hj)

186 If your city refuses to stop rioting and you elected your city leaders, then you deserve to have your town burned down.

Alternately, you're justified in removing them from office by force.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:46 PM (KZzsI)

187 Court back in session...

Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2021 01:46 PM (cF8AT)

188 So KR prosecution used video manipulated by software that is not for forensic purposes, only investigative.
Posted by: Barr Durham at November 17, 2021 01:43 PM (GGUjc)
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That is a question I was surprised wasn't asked of the prosecution "expert" by the Defense. They asked about the software, that there were a couple of different titles out there, that the PD uses this one, etc. - but never "is this forensic-quality software certified for forensic use and is output from that software generally accepted as forensically valid and approved by courts?"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2021 01:46 PM (DU+/6)

189 Maybe he could repent, say four Hail Joeys, and they would let him go?

Posted by: wth at November 17, 2021 01:47 PM (v0R5T)

190
Paul voted to award the Congressional Gold Medal to the murdering bastard capitol police. He can go horsefuck.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 17, 2021 01:43 PM (2JVJo)

Hear, hear. Outside a very, very few, GOP senators and MoC's are as responsible for this nation's collapse as anyone else. Paul awarded the same folks who attacked him twice, once almost fatally, which surely represents a new low for cuckery.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 17, 2021 01:47 PM (nMx88)

191 To understand why these sentences are what they are, you got to understand the Boomers on Capitol Hill. You have to grasp their mentality.

It doesn't matter, as far as they're concerned, that you lost your job because they shipped it overseas or just flat out closed it down. They are the Political Aristocracy - and you need to know your place. Pure and simple.

They worked long and hard to get to where they are. Kissed a ton of ass. Put in their time - (Gawd, I love that one - it's a Boomer Original). Now - respect their Authoritah !!!

That's the deal. That's why they don't get pissed - and even encourage - the occupation of an adjacent building during the Kav nomination. Because that was just the hired help's building. Not THEIR building.

Posted by: Autumn Closing In at November 17, 2021 01:47 PM (nnLlj)

192 Still, Olive Gardens are packed every night and they have some of the worst Italian food this side of a prison cafeteria.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:45 PM (KZzsI)

The breadsticks?

I think those chedder biscuits are the only reason why Red Lobster is still around. That and it's Jesse Kelly's favorite restaurant.

Posted by: Thrawn at November 17, 2021 01:47 PM (5aFbR)

193 To be fair, punching a cop is exactly the same as punching someone who thinks they have the right to shoot you if you don't do what they say, even though your supposedly free, have harmed no one, and never consented to their lordship over you.
Exactly the way it is.

Posted by: Hold My Montrachet at November 17, 2021 01:47 PM (juH8z)

194 >>> Exactly. She's one of the very few actual journalists working today, and you ban her? Seriously?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:40 PM (KZzsI)

If I was working at a news corps the only way I imagine myself back benching Emerald is if she came at me with a knife screaming, "I MUST RELEASE THE LIZARD MONKEYS IN YOUR HEAD!" And even then I would take some time to consider her interesting and novel lizard-monkey hypothesis.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 17, 2021 01:47 PM (h/pNJ)

195 > Photos of bricks being placed around town:
https://tinyurl.com/4hvy5y4s

Things are looking pretty green in that photo for the middle of November.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 17, 2021 01:47 PM (sG4Hj)

196 Buffalo hat out front should've told you.

Well, probably but is that really sillier than Tricorn Hat Girl? I mean he's not as pretty but its all just cosplay nonsense.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:47 PM (KZzsI)

197 Rule of law, home of the free, Judeo-Christian ethics. Did I score the cuckservative trifecta yet or what?

Posted by: trev006 at November 17, 2021 01:48 PM (Eqkqm)

198 Shaman made a mockery of Congress, and Pelosi in particular by making himself comfortable upon her throne.

This is what happens when you threaten the seat of their power.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 17, 2021 01:48 PM (bDqIh)

199 *you're

Posted by: Hold My Montrachet at November 17, 2021 01:48 PM (juH8z)

200 And even then I would take some time to consider her interesting and novel lizard-monkey hypothesis.

Yeah exactly. And I'd admire her form.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:48 PM (KZzsI)

201 Sure but what are you gonna do about it?
Get on the same boxcar as everyone else. And they know it

Posted by: Pudding Head at November 17, 2021 01:49 PM (0yXIl)

202 Photos of bricks being placed around town:
https://tinyurl.com/4hvy5y4s

Things are looking pretty green in that photo for the middle of November.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 17, 2021 01:47 PM

Noticed that too did you?

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at November 17, 2021 01:49 PM (bVYXr)

203
But if it were true, the City need only send public works down there with a dump trucks and workmen and they would be gone in 20 minutes.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 17, 2021 01:41 PM (lvLhX)

The public works guys are tied up putting a boot on the judge's car in the courthouse lot.
Posted by: Roy at November 17, 2021 01:42 PM (Ti+Tv)

Heh. I'm binge-rewatching The Wire right now and last night I watched one of the early episodes where the cops are standing around a dead body bitching about crime lab guys not showing up because they're tied up at a city councilman's house doing a full forensic because someone stole his lawn mower or some such thing.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 17, 2021 01:49 PM (n+4am)

204 >>> I think those chedder biscuits are the only reason why Red Lobster is still around. That and it's Jesse Kelly's favorite restaurant.
Posted by: Thrawn at November 17, 2021 01:47 PM (5aFbR)

Store's carry RL branded cheddar biscuit boxes now and you can make a batch at home.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 17, 2021 01:49 PM (h/pNJ)

205 >>>Things are looking pretty green in that photo for the middle of November.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 17, 2021 01:47 PM (sG4Hj)

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Exactly.

Posted by: 496 at November 17, 2021 01:49 PM (U1eOr)

206 Trial feed is up.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at November 17, 2021 01:49 PM (sWM8x)

207 163 So KR prosecution used video manipulated by software that is not for forensic purposes, only investigative.
___________

That would have useful for the judge to know before the friggin' evidence was admitted. I would say the defense dropped the ball here, but they got the tape so late in the trial they may not have had time to get the info. about the software used. Still pisses me off.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer--F*ck Joe Biden at November 17, 2021 01:49 PM (k4dH2)

208 Things are looking pretty green in that photo for the middle of November.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 17, 2021 01:47 PM (sG4Hj)

.....

And all hours of the day for 12:50 pm.

Fake news.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 17, 2021 01:49 PM (lvLhX)

209 167 They're Central American bricks, flown in last night by Border Patrol.

They're just here to do what Americans bricks won't do.

Posted by: callsign claymore at November 17, 2021 01:49 PM (fe8qf)

210 So they literally threw the book at QAnon Shaman based on the max penalties for the bullshit charged leveled against him.

M****rF****rs!!!

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 17, 2021 01:49 PM (Ls9Kq)

211 Things are looking pretty green in that photo for the middle of November.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 17, 2021 01:47 PM (sG4Hj)

Yeah, once I got off of my phone I can see a green tree in the distance. The box hedge I'd give a pass to. Also not sure about those night-time shots TBH. Looks like 8/20 to me.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 17, 2021 01:49 PM (wAnMi)

212 Once the American people swallowed that obvious election theft, that was it. Everything that happens from here on out is because they got away with this. When future historians write about the half-century (or more) of American tyranny before its final collapse, the 2020 election will be the starting marker. Having gotten by with that, the authoritarian socialists are safe to proceed with all plans. They know there will be no check on them ever again. At least until the whole shithouse goes up in flames.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 17, 2021 01:40 PM (/KPLX)

_________________________________

I agree 100%. But it happened before that. We were done as soon as the public swallowed the fascist lockdowns and supernatural hysteria over what amounts to the flu. There was no coming back from that. THAT was the signal that they could do literally anything they wanted and get away with it. And 50 years to final collapse? You're too optimistic. Maybe 10 years, tops.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 17, 2021 01:49 PM (iFTx/)

213 Things are looking pretty green in that photo for the middle of November.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 17, 2021 01:47 PM (sG4Hj)

It's a nice sunny day today.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 17, 2021 01:50 PM (45fpk)

214 Heh. I'm binge-rewatching The Wire right now and last night I watched one of the early episodes where the cops are standing around a dead body bitching about crime lab guys not showing up because they're tied up at a city councilman's house doing a full forensic because someone stole his lawn mower or some such thing.

The Wire is hard to watch for this reason, but its one of the most painfully accurate depictions of corruption and abuse of power ever put on film.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:50 PM (KZzsI)

215 197 Rule of law, home of the free, Judeo-Christian ethics. Did I score the cuckservative trifecta yet or what?
Posted by: trev006 at November 17, 2021 01:48 PM (Eqkqm)

Yes.

You are a great American.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 17, 2021 01:50 PM (nMx88)

216 195 > Photos of bricks being placed around town:
https://tinyurl.com/4hvy5y4s

Things are looking pretty green in that photo for the middle of November.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 17, 2021 01:47 PM (sG4Hj)

Maybe that dude wearing shorts is a Packers fan. Not cold enough for pants.

Posted by: Roy at November 17, 2021 01:50 PM (Ti+Tv)

217 They've now guaranteed that if enough are angry about something the Fedgov Dems are doing or not doing, it will be a violent clash from the get go.

No one will forget what the Dems have done and will act accordingly.

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable".

Posted by: jakee308 at November 17, 2021 01:50 PM (h4cy5)

218 187 Court back in session...
Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2021 01:46 PM (cF8AT)

Where are you seeing this? LI hasn't updated.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2021 01:51 PM (f871o)

219 33 Is your your mind right boy?
Judge Lamberth
Posted by: steevy at November 17, 2021 01:26 PM (CYnTg)

What we have here **sigh**, is a failure to communicate!

Posted by: Captain at November 17, 2021 01:51 PM (BgMrQ)

220
Anyone placing a pile of bricks near my business I'd head down to Lowes or Home Depot for a five gallon bucket of tar. You gotta keep the bricks waterproof, know what I mean?

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at November 17, 2021 01:51 PM (dQvv7)

221 Qanon shaman guy is a garden variety nut job who enjoyed showing up at demonstrations regardless of the cause. He was photographed and video recorded at BLM riots, antifa riots, etc.
He like being in the action, didn't matter what or why.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 17, 2021 01:51 PM (jTmQV)

222 Store's carry RL branded cheddar biscuit boxes now and you can make a batch at home.

Pay $11 per biscuit for maximum simulation of eating at the restaurant.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:51 PM (KZzsI)

223

Where's Trump on this....

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at November 17, 2021 01:51 PM (XnbJC)

224 The Wire is hard to watch for this reason, but its one of the most painfully accurate depictions of corruption and abuse of power ever put on film.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:50 PM (KZzsI)
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I've read that whoever was in charge of The Wire produced it as a liberal screed, and was horrified to find out that people took the exact opposite meaning from it.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2021 01:52 PM (f871o)

225 Hey Newsmax, Fauxnews already exists, so why exactly do we need you?

Oh, we don't.

Bye.

Posted by: Bete at November 17, 2021 01:52 PM (Ojki1)

226 Anyone placing a pile of bricks near my business I'd head down to Lowes or Home Depot for a five gallon bucket of tar.

I'd consider it a thoughtful donation and take them inside for storage.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:52 PM (KZzsI)

227
I suspect a few jurors have been watching Fake News during the trial and can't reconcile the testimonies and evidence with the lies they've been hearing on cable tv.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 17, 2021 01:53 PM (D1Uy8)

228 Where are you seeing this? LI hasn't updated.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6qRzJcyvY0

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at November 17, 2021 01:53 PM (sWM8x)

229 Did you know that in December 2002 Joseph Rosenbaum was sentenced to 150 months in prison for sodomizing children? And did you know he got additional criminal charges while in prison, yet got released early?

Funny how the justice system works for the little Epsteins.

Posted by: trev006 at November 17, 2021 01:53 PM (Eqkqm)

230 Looks like box hedges and yews in that photo. Pedestrians look to be wearing jackets.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 17, 2021 01:53 PM (45fpk)

231 This just reinforces that next time it happens it will be real violence. We've nothing to lose.

Posted by: Archer at November 17, 2021 01:53 PM (gmo/4)

232 I've read that whoever was in charge of The Wire produced it as a liberal screed

I can KIND of understand why they would think that, because of how it showed how the young black people felt helpless and frustrated with such a corrupt system but...

...all the corruption was by leftists

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:53 PM (KZzsI)

233 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6qRzJcyvY0
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at November 17, 2021 01:53 PM (sWM8x)
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Thanks!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2021 01:53 PM (f871o)

234 Anyone placing a pile of bricks near my business I'd head down to Lowes or Home Depot for a five gallon bucket of tar. You gotta keep the bricks waterproof, know what I mean?

.....

Screw that.

I'd call some of my contractor buddies and say "I've got some pallets of bricks, 25 cents on the dollar."

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 17, 2021 01:53 PM (lvLhX)

235 221 Qanon shaman guy is a garden variety nut job who enjoyed showing up at demonstrations regardless of the cause. He was photographed and video recorded at BLM riots, antifa riots, etc.
He like being in the action, didn't matter what or why.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 17, 2021 01:51 PM (jTmQV)

He choose...poorly.

Posted by: DoJ as knight in Last Crusade at November 17, 2021 01:53 PM (Ojki1)

236 He did a plea deal, don't think you can appeal that unless you can prove your lawyer was incompetent (like Gen. Flynn did).

====

Great.....

Posted by: runner at November 17, 2021 01:54 PM (DMcz+)

237 I'm binge-rewatching The Wire right now and last night I watched one of the early episodes where the cops are standing around a dead body bitching about crime lab guys not showing up because they're tied up at a city councilman's house doing a full forensic because someone stole his lawn mower or some such thing.

The Wire is hard to watch for this reason, but its one of the most painfully accurate depictions of corruption and abuse of power ever put on film.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:50 PM (KZzsI)

The Wire is fiction based on reality. You can tell because the cops actually do eventually arrest the bad guys in The Wire.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 17, 2021 01:54 PM (XvPQV)

238 (Also, Columbia Bugle, "No Logarithm"??? Come on, be better.)
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I don't think that's the Columbia Bugle. Said the same thing on the ones that Retieka law was showing.

Someone is trolling. I think one of the lawyers said "logarithm" instead of "algorithm" in court the other day.

Posted by: Oddbob at November 17, 2021 01:54 PM (nfrXX)

239 Just packed a piece of walrus tusk scrimshaw that was carved on 8/22, 1829. Very cool.

Posted by: Sharkman at November 17, 2021 01:54 PM (qflWd)

240 He's a total nut job, a Soros plant, put there to make all MAGA people seem nuts.
Doesn't deserve the sentence, but none of them do.
Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 17, 2021 01:31 PM (jTmQV)

That was my impression of Viking Hat guy, too. A mostly left-wing nutbar.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 17, 2021 01:54 PM (P3gRi)

241 161 And someone just robbed Applebees. These folks have bad taste.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 17, 2021 01:38 PM (45fpk)

Must have been a slow motion robbery, given their usual service speed.

Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at November 17, 2021 01:54 PM (DwEUu)

242 They're doing everything they can to convince us that resistance is not only futile, but that it will directly lead to your destruction.

Old and busted: "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism."

New hotness: Shut the fuck up or we'll kill/imprison you.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 17, 2021 01:54 PM (cvNl1)

243 224 I've read that whoever was in charge of The Wire produced it as a liberal screed, and was horrified to find out that people took the exact opposite meaning from it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2021 01:52 PM (f871o)

=========

Like that bit in the fifth season when the mayor goes to the Republican governor and asks for more money.

I think we're supposed to come away with the idea that Republicans are evil because they don't throw money at failing blue cities, but we've just gotten through four seasons of the corruption of blue cities. The governor refusing the request for more money was a good one.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 17, 2021 01:54 PM (LvTSG)

244 I agree 100%. But it happened before that. We were done as soon as the public swallowed the fascist lockdowns and supernatural hysteria over what amounts to the flu. There was no coming back from that. THAT was the signal that they could do literally anything they wanted and get away with it. And 50 years to final collapse? You're too optimistic. Maybe 10 years, tops.
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 17, 2021 01:49 PM (iFTx/)

The blind, sheeplike Covid compliance was the greenlight to go the full mile, and that included the election theft. Otherwise fully agreed. From an electoral politics standpoint, it is over.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 17, 2021 01:55 PM (nMx88)

245 First "targeting" your opponents became actually violence, now to "stop" something with which you disagree is a call to violence.
FWIW there was also a "Stop the Steal" rally in November 2020 that I personally attended, along with Mrs. Zek, at which various sitting members of Congress and State Legislatures also spoke.

The only "violence" that day was Antifa attacking various members of the group as it ran towards dusk.

Also, the Antifa violence attempting to stop citizens from exercising their inalienable right to assemble, and petition their government for redress of grievances, is exactly why the Proud Boys played an important, even necessary role in protecting the actual protestors. Which is why, based on precedent of the November rally, I'm sure there was lot's of "tactical" talk among PB or others who were interested in how to protect the rally goers from the demonstrably, proven-violent Antifa goons.

This is, to borrow a phrase from the 1770s, "intolerable."

Posted by: Zek at November 17, 2021 01:55 PM (OzNIz)

246
Did you hear this new phrase the Fake News Gaslighters just invented?

They're calling Alex Jones a "conspiracy extremist."

Get used to it. You'll be labeled a "conspiracy extremist" too...by the State.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 17, 2021 01:55 PM (D1Uy8)

247 Screw that.

I'd call some of my contractor buddies and say "I've got some pallets of bricks, 25 cents on the dollar."

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 17, 2021 01:53 PM

I'd say, $50 a pallet and you come and haul them away. Those things are not cheap some of them go for $700 for a full pallet.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at November 17, 2021 01:55 PM (bVYXr)

248
Liz Cheney & Adam Kinzinger high five eachother at the news of this.

Posted by: portlandon at November 17, 2021 01:55 PM (+oR7L)

249 What is amazing to me is how the press has just created a whole fantasy version of the events in the BLM shootings. They're ignoring all the tons of video evidence and just inventing something completely new: the pedo was lying down when shot, so clearly wasn't threatening him! Its just this amazing pile of deliberate lies. They must really, really be counting on a guilty verdict because otherwise they are seriously open to gigantic and painful lawsuits.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:55 PM (KZzsI)

250
I'd consider it a thoughtful donation and take them inside for storage.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:52 PM

That works, too. The last time I bought bricks they were about .25 a piece, so they're probably at least .50 by now. You can move a serious amount of money in a very short amount of time.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at November 17, 2021 01:55 PM (dQvv7)

251 You're going to "vote harder" in elections that don't matter anymore while they devalue your life savings into oblivion. And you'll still grumble about how unfair it is as you get loaded into the boxcar. They declared war long ago and you weren't listening.
It's probably time to resurrect the old pastime of defenstration and make an example out of a few of the petty tyrants, rather than their cartel making examples out of grandmas and paraders.

Posted by: Pudding Head at November 17, 2021 01:55 PM (0yXIl)

252
You're too optimistic. Maybe 10 years, tops.
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 17, 2021 01:49 PM (iFTx/)

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From your lips to G-d's ears, my dude. The sooner this regime collapses, the better.

But I have a feeling once the full, naked force of the government's gunmen is unleashed, the regime can remain in place for a couple generations through terror alone.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 17, 2021 01:56 PM (/KPLX)

253 Oooh...judge just brought up defense's motion on the video!

Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2021 01:56 PM (cF8AT)

254 > Someone is trolling. I think one of the lawyers said "logarithm" instead of "algorithm" in court the other day.

See my comment above:
Posted by: bonhomme at November 17, 2021 01:41 PM (sG4Hj)

I have the quote there, or at least one relevant quote.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 17, 2021 01:56 PM (sG4Hj)

255 Funny drone footage comparison:
https://tinyurl.com/9tjt728

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 17, 2021 01:56 PM (wAnMi)

256 What would Ted nugent say?

Wwtns

Posted by: Y5 at November 17, 2021 01:56 PM (IOhrZ)

257 They'll all receive sentencing. The Left sent their message loud and clear in November 2016 when they lost: those who disagree with them are dangerous and will be killed so that the state can prosper properly.

We're in the USSR now. That neighbor who played music loud enough to wake the dead after 2AM? And you asked him to keep it down? And he scowled at you and slammed the door, because you were harshing his mellow? He's now been told he can kill you for that. And no Karens will vote to convict him, if he's even arrested.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 17, 2021 01:56 PM (p+1gI)

258 Old and busted: "Dissent is the highest form of patriotism."
New hotness: Shut the fuck up or we'll kill/imprison you.
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Yeah, this is definitely not the behavior of a government that depends on popular support for its legitimacy.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at November 17, 2021 01:56 PM (sWM8x)

259 223

Where's Trump on this....

Posted by: Dr.Rev. Senator Your Highness E Buzz Miller, Esq PhD MA MS at November 17, 2021 01:51 PM (XnbJC)

Solid question and I agree one hundred percent. The only admirable thing Trump has done in response to 11/21-1/6 is refuse to concede. But his silence about the political prisoners has been unforgivable.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 17, 2021 01:57 PM (nMx88)

260 Judge is going over dismissal motion in court.

Posted by: WisRich at November 17, 2021 01:57 PM (qKfc+)

261 229 Funny how the justice system works for the little Epsteins.
Posted by: trev006 at November 17, 2021 01:53 PM (Eqkqm)

I saw Little Epsteins open for Little Feat at the Fillmore East in '72.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 17, 2021 01:57 PM (s2VJv)

262 What would Ted nugent say?

Something bizarre and mystical about hunting

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:57 PM (KZzsI)

263 I'd say, $50 a pallet and you come and haul them away. Those things are not cheap some of them go for $700 for a full pallet.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at November 17, 2021 01:55 PM (bVYXr)

If that was anywhere near me, all you'd need to do would be to drive to Tool Shed or Home Depot in the morning, and tell the day workers. They'd be gone in 20 minutes, and then there'd be a bunch of drunk Mexicans waiting all night for more to arrive.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 17, 2021 01:58 PM (wAnMi)

264 Cops beating up protester when someone shouts "Officers, they're robbing the Food King!"

Old and Busted: Cops leave off beating protestor, high tail it to the Food King.

New Hotness: Cops laugh, leave off beating protester and just sit down to watch town burn.

Posted by: Boswell at November 17, 2021 01:58 PM (5iUNf)

265 But his silence about the political prisoners has been unforgivable.

I don't think he's been silent but he's not being really loud about it, either. Possibly because he views that it would be harmful to their cases.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:58 PM (KZzsI)

266 I still think "Qanon Shaman" is a fictional character invented by the communist left. I don't think the guy playing the character will actually be in prison. Hopefully someone verifies if he is or isn't.

Posted by: Tums Festival at November 17, 2021 01:59 PM (NsI03)

267
Prosecution is babbling about Fox News and Tucker Carlson, now. Deflecting...

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 17, 2021 01:59 PM (D1Uy8)

268 77 If they're spotted why the heck aren't people doing something about it

you lose your right to do something about suspicious piles of bricks when you're the one that brings the forklift.

Posted by: Binger at November 17, 2021 01:59 PM (v3pYe)

269 They'd be gone in 20 minutes, and then there'd be a bunch of drunk Mexicans waiting all night for more to arrive.

And what are they going to do? The person who paid for them gonna show up and yell about theft? Of bricks they delivered to be used in a riot?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:59 PM (KZzsI)

270 This is Stalin-Era "justice." There's no other way to describe it.
Posted by: PabloD

If it was really "Stalin Era" justice, the guy would have disappeared into the Gulag, never to be seen again, or shot in the head in the basement of the Lubyanka.

It is grotesque, nonetheless.

And it is meant to be intimidating to the rest of us.

Is it working?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at November 17, 2021 01:59 PM (vcOmj)

271 > the pedo was lying down when shot, so clearly wasn't threatening him!

That whole argument chain was asinine.

Don't believe your lying eyes or the stippling evidence, Rosenbaum was four feet from the gun barrel when he was shot.

Don't believe the expert who testified he can't say the exact order of gunshot wounds, Lunchbox will tell you the exact order.

And one of the most egregious in my opinion, was the claim that Rosembaum's first bullet wound to the hip incapacitated him and eliminated the threat. Those three other gunshots that all happened in less than a second as the pedophile was within inches of Kyle were all overkill.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 17, 2021 02:00 PM (sG4Hj)

272 You're going to "vote harder" in elections that don't matter anymore while they devalue your life savings into oblivion. And you'll still grumble about how unfair it is as you get loaded into the boxcar. They declared war long ago and you weren't listening.

Thing is is, if you cannot be bothered to vote what might you be bothered to do?

Posted by: Y5 at November 17, 2021 02:00 PM (IOhrZ)

273 But I have a feeling once the full, naked force of the government's gunmen is unleashed, the regime can remain in place for a couple generations through terror alone.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 17, 2021 01:56 PM (/KPLX)

Probably the hardcore urban centers, but loss of control of other areas is coming much sooner and has started in some states. And as you wrote, that's a good thing.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 17, 2021 02:00 PM (nMx88)

274 The late lamented Uncle Remus gave sage advice when it came to avoiding crowds.

I truly wonder if he had some inkling freedom of association was going to become seriously threatened.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 17, 2021 02:00 PM (IUFR3)

275 Fatlock: Hey man, how was I supposed to know they got a blurry copy. *shrugs, farts*

Posted by: WisRich at November 17, 2021 02:00 PM (qKfc+)

276 Solid question and I agree one hundred percent. The only admirable thing Trump has done in response to 11/21-1/6 is refuse to concede. But his silence about the political prisoners has been unforgivable.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 17, 2021 01:57 PM (nMx8

He has been talking, but the media won't cover it. So unless you are going out of your way to hear what he is saying... you won't hear it.

Especially as he is still banned from Social Media.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 17, 2021 02:00 PM (oHd/0)

277 Prosecution is babbling about Fox News and Tucker Carlson, now. Deflecting...
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 17, 2021 01:59 PM (D1Uy

WTF?

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 17, 2021 02:00 PM (Ez6QX)

278
Like that bit in the fifth season when the mayor goes to the Republican governor and asks for more money.

I think we're supposed to come away with the idea that Republicans are evil because they don't throw money at failing blue cities, but we've just gotten through four seasons of the corruption of blue cities. The governor refusing the request for more money was a good one.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 17, 2021 01:54 PM (LvTSG)

I liked the scene where Littlefinger just won the Donk primary for mayor and everyone's celebrating. He chides them for being cocky "well, we still have to win the general election".

Pregnant pause.

Laughter all around.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 17, 2021 02:00 PM (n+4am)

279 Solid question and I agree one hundred percent. The only admirable thing Trump has done in response to 11/21-1/6 is refuse to concede. But his silence about the political prisoners has been unforgivable.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 17, 2021 01:57 PM (nMx8

He did put out a statement not too long ago, but it's not what I would hope and not nearly enough. As disappointed as I am with that, I'm thoroughly disgusted with every member of the GOPe. They can't possibly make it more clear who's side they're on.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 17, 2021 02:00 PM (wAnMi)

280 This trial is a mess.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2021 02:00 PM (A0cwl)

281 from the Politio poll thread:

554 Many years ago, I was involved in a civil suit in which the husband of a woman killed in a traffic accident alleged that the Toyota van in which she was killed was improperly designed. I thought that the folks who brought you WWII put on an excellent case. The woman had been driving on the wrong side of the road while looking into the rear view mirror applying her make up. The jury was out longer than I expected when they sent out a question concerning the mechanics of calculating punative damages. I was young and not totally beaten by life into cynicism as I am now so I was outraged that the plaintiff was going to collect on such a flimsy suit. The Toyota samurai saw the writing on the wall and settled. When the judge told the jury that their services were no longer required, they were outraged because they were going to find for the Rising Sun. They sent the punative damages question out just because they were curious.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 17, 2021 01:26 PM (FVME7)

That's so awful.

Posted by: m at November 17, 2021 02:00 PM (ya129)

282 252
You're too optimistic. Maybe 10 years, tops.
Posted by: Elric Blade at November 17, 2021 01:49 PM (iFTx/)

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From your lips to G-d's ears, my dude. The sooner this regime collapses, the better.

But I have a feeling once the full, naked force of the government's gunmen is unleashed, the regime can remain in place for a couple generations through terror alone.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 17, 2021 01:56 PM (/KPLX)
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Oh my bad, I thought you were talking about the collapse of society not the duration of the tyrannical regime. The regime can go on forever. Fascism is like Newton's Laws: it will continue forever unless something stops it. What will stop it here? My 10 year prediction was the time before total societal collapse. I got the new Mad Max Anthology on 4K. Little did I know that it was a vision of the future.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 17, 2021 02:01 PM (iFTx/)

283 Prosecution is babbling about Fox News and Tucker Carlson, now. Deflecting...

Again, they have no case. They can't pound the law or the facts, they have to pound the table.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 02:01 PM (KZzsI)

284 Note to self - don't wear fur hats.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 17, 2021 02:01 PM (HTCOy)

285 But I have a feeling once the full, naked force of the government's gunmen is unleashed, the regime can remain in place for a couple generations through terror alone.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 17, 2021 01:56 PM (/KPLX)
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We outnumber them. Never back down on our 2A rights, it's the only thing standing between us and the gulag.

Posted by: Guzalot says FJB at November 17, 2021 02:01 PM (prSvo)

286 FWIW:

Passport renewals are moving much faster now. I renewed by mail on 10/15 and received my new passport today.

Posted by: mr tmz at November 17, 2021 02:01 PM (m/Gc2)

287 If that was anywhere near me, all you'd need to do would be to drive to Tool Shed or Home Depot in the morning, and tell the day workers. They'd be gone in 20 minutes, and then there'd be a bunch of drunk Mexicans waiting all night for more to arrive.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 17, 2021 01:58 PM

Yep, same here. My neighbor had his house built 15 years ago and had two extra pallets of brick left over. He kept them out back covered up until he died. They were gone two days after he died. No idea who his sister sold them too.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at November 17, 2021 02:01 PM (bVYXr)

288 I don't think he's been silent but he's not being really loud about it, either. Possibly because he views that it would be harmful to their cases.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:58 PM (KZzsI)

As I recall they're basically being asked to denounce him in exchange for leniency. So yeah getting noisily involved probably wouldn't help them as far as the process goes.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2021 02:01 PM (z5Vrg)

289 Again, they have no case. They can't pound the law or the facts, they have to pound the table.
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Pretty sure Fatlock pounds his little friend.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 17, 2021 02:01 PM (HTCOy)

290 The prosecution is admitting giving the Rittenhouse defense a poorer quality video. They claim inadvertently.

Mistrial. Right now.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2021 02:02 PM (A0cwl)

291 The prosecution's excuse - that the video file was inadvertently compressed in the course of transmission from an iPhone to an Android phone is plausible.

The obvious experiment: send a second file, under controlled conditions, to see if such compression takes place.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2021 02:02 PM (bNBVj)

292 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:55 PM (KZzsI)

Harry Reid has proved correct more than once.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 17, 2021 02:02 PM (nMx88)

293 Fatlock is lying his ass off. It's not "compressed" it's an entirely different file. They don't lower resolution on their own. They need to be saved in a lower resolution.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 17, 2021 02:02 PM (wAnMi)

294 You're going to "vote harder" in elections that don't matter anymore while they devalue your life savings into oblivion. And you'll still grumble about how unfair it is as you get loaded into the boxcar. They declared war long ago and you weren't listening.

Fuck that shit. I'm not 'voting harder' for a completely corrupt and bought-off GOP. As far as I'm concerned, the party needs to be buried in a blue tsunami and every one of them carted off to the camps by a triumphant Dem state.

And nobody is loading this Moron into a boxcar. I'll stand before the Eternal Judge with blood on my hands before that happens.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 17, 2021 02:02 PM (2JVJo)

295 As disappointed as I am with that, I'm thoroughly disgusted with every member of the GOPe. They can't possibly make it more clear who's side they're on.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 17, 2021 02:00 PM (wAnMi)

Well, once we have the House and Senate we can do something.

Well, and the presidency. As long as it is a president we want.

And then have the courts. And then the media.

Then, watch up show our stuff! Donate Today!

Posted by: Mitch McConnell at November 17, 2021 02:03 PM (Ojki1)

296 As I recall they're basically being asked to denounce him in exchange for leniency. So yeah getting noisily involved probably wouldn't help them as far as the process goes.
Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2021 02:01 PM (z5Vrg)

What f*cking country are we living in?!

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 17, 2021 02:03 PM (Ez6QX)

297 the DC judges have been carefully arranged

they are all very moderate

Merrick Garland used to be among thing but he was chosen for bigger and better things

all top people and have the blessing of John Roberts

Posted by: REDACTED at November 17, 2021 02:03 PM (us2H3)

298 290 The prosecution is admitting giving the Rittenhouse defense a poorer quality video. They claim inadvertently.

Mistrial. Right now.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2021 02:02 PM (A0cwl)

yeah, that bad thing the Defense said we did - ok we did it. But it was a accident, I swear Judge, it was a accident!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 17, 2021 02:03 PM (trdmm)

299 Those that were in the Congress and feared for their lives did so because they knew they deserved it. They know they stole that election and any right thinking red blooded American would've gotten to them to string them up.

They also figured that because they knew that if the GOP stole and election like that that they would be coming for their heads so they assumed those people were doing what they would've done.

And Nancy is old. Old and vicious and sees the end of her life coming up fast so she doesn't have any mercy or forgiveness in her and she's very fond of the "message" being sent to her enemies who fail. She very Sicilian like that and learned it at her father's knee.

She knows what's coming and she's going to get out of the House before the stuff really hits the fan. She's going to be somewhere hard to get to and well protected. Can't do that in DC. Or even SF.

She knows the next time DC will burn as no one will believe they'll be given any mercy so they will destroy. She's brought it on the whole country. She reminds me of Livia of the Augustan Roman Empire.

Posted by: jakee308 at November 17, 2021 02:03 PM (h4cy5)

300 >>Pretty sure Fatlock pounds his little friend.
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 17, 2021 02:01 PM (HTCOy)

Fatlock hasn't seen his dick since 2004.

Posted by: J. Frank Parnell at November 17, 2021 02:04 PM (O6DoG)

301 Millibyte?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2021 02:04 PM (bNBVj)

302 Sickening. I've heard of judges now ordering some of these political prisoners to disavow their beliefs and read required ideological literature.
The whole western world is trashing its legacy, heedless of what it took to achieve and secure it.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 17, 2021 02:04 PM (Fv8UY)

303 I'm not calling on God to drop a screaming meteor of death on Washington DC, but I would certainly understand if he did.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 17, 2021 02:04 PM (00kEk)

304 Clint Eastwood did a film, Changeling I think? About a real woman who was trying to find her kid and the government falsely locks her up to hide their own corruption. Finally is freed and exonerated, but it is harrowing scary stuff when paired with the times we live in now.

Humanity does not learn the right lessons from the past and apparently are always doomed to repeat them.

Posted by: LizLem at November 17, 2021 02:04 PM (7nUts)

305 Merrick Garland turned out to be a real arsehole, didn't he?

Posted by: IC - #FJB at November 17, 2021 02:04 PM (hV9ir)

306 Mistrial. Right now.

Um... yeah, that's what is supposed to happen if the prosecution doesn't share its evidence with the defense, although I am certain it happens all the time. Particularly at the federal level.

But what the prosecution wants is a mistrial at this point and if I was the judge, I'd be damned unwilling to give them that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 02:04 PM (KZzsI)

307 -
yeah, that bad thing the Defense said we did - ok we did it. But it was a accident, I swear Judge, it was a accident!!!

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 17, 2021 02:03 PM -
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Also the other three things we did. Accidents!

Posted by: irright at November 17, 2021 02:05 PM (SchQD)

308 Evidence lady calling bullshit on Fatlocks statement.

Posted by: WisRich at November 17, 2021 02:05 PM (qKfc+)

309 Give the prosecution credit, from what I'm reading, they've managed to deflect away from the video provenance issue.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 17, 2021 02:05 PM (IUFR3)

310 Steve Harrigan of Fox just said the kid in GA was jogging, which is a lie

Posted by: REDACTED at November 17, 2021 02:05 PM (us2H3)

311 305 Merrick Garland turned out to be a real arsehole, didn't he?
Posted by: IC - #FJB at November 17, 2021 02:04 PM (hV9ir)
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Thank God that a-hole isn't on the Supreme Court.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2021 02:05 PM (bNBVj)

312 What f*cking country are we living in?!

Posted by: Jordan61 at November 17, 2021 02:03 PM (Ez6QX)

China as it experienced the Cultural Revolution?

Posted by: kallisto at November 17, 2021 02:05 PM (DJFLF)

313 Fuck this country.

Since "Burn it down" is protected speech, at least when spoken by antifa and BLM:

Burn it down. Burn it all down.

Amen.

Posted by: Methos at November 17, 2021 02:05 PM (kOpft)

314 These arguments at the trial about the video and video quality make me want to scream. There needs to be a technical director available. The video was sent to the state via a phone-to-phone Apple technology that only works between iPhones. They sent it to the defense via E-Mail per defense request. They are asserting that the receiving device compressed the file and that the difference is the defense's fault.

I am not 100% certain, but I seriously doubt this. The sender likely compressed the file to cram it into an E-Mail or to save bandwidth. This might have happened transparently, but am not sure. The typical flow of this kind of operation would be "compress-then-send" not "receive-then-compress" because the receiver wouldn't need to do so.

This is maddening. These people use high-tech evidence all the time, have no knowledge or mastery of it, and let people's lives hang in the fucking balance while they engage in cargo-cult button mashing in what is essentially deference to magic.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2021 02:05 PM (DU+/6)

315 What f*cking country are we living in?!
Posted by: Jordan61 at November 17, 2021 02:03 PM (Ez6QX)

The USSA. My word as a Bidet!

Posted by: Bidet, eater of paste. at November 17, 2021 02:05 PM (Ojki1)

316 Because prosecution did not know they compressed the file does not relieve them from guilt of compressing the file.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 17, 2021 02:06 PM (xlA0I)

317 Those that were in the Congress and feared for their lives did so because they knew they deserved it. They know they stole that election and any right thinking red blooded American would've gotten to them to string them up.

Right. That was my reaction immediately: their extreme hysterical overreaction showed their fear and sense of guilt, they feared what should have been the reaction of the American people was taking place.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 02:06 PM (KZzsI)

318 291 The prosecution's excuse - that the video file was inadvertently compressed in the course of transmission from an iPhone to an Android phone is plausible.

The obvious experiment: send a second file, under controlled conditions, to see if such compression takes place.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2021 02:02 PM (bNBVj)

Wait, they were sending EVIDENCE via phone?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 17, 2021 02:06 PM (oHd/0)

319 I have to agree. F this country. It's dead, murdered by the left after announcing there are two sets of laws. One for the left, and another for the proles.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 17, 2021 02:06 PM (XSRBF)

320 If you aren't willing to take up arms to retain your freedom you are going to lose your freedom. One must be content that often the blood required to nurture the tree of liberty will be yours.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 17, 2021 02:06 PM (o2MD2)

321 285 But I have a feeling once the full, naked force of the government's gunmen is unleashed, the regime can remain in place for a couple generations through terror alone.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 17, 2021 01:56 PM

on the plus side, it's likely that if the governments gunmen are unleased, they will spend most of their efforts trying to take each other out. (ie, Karmella and Biden) That's what has happened in every other corrupt government that's gotten to this point. (Russia's misery was because Stalin was so damned good at it)

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 17, 2021 02:06 PM (trdmm)

322 Fatberg is throwing all this irrelevant detail, hoping to disguise the fact he did not give the defense a video, which the prosecution later used in court. Mistrial.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2021 02:06 PM (A0cwl)

323 300 >>Pretty sure Fatlock pounds his little friend.
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 17, 2021 02:01 PM (HTCOy)

Fatlock hasn't seen his dick since 2004.
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Imma guess his hands can reach it. I can't think of anyone else that would do that job. Then there's farm animals.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 17, 2021 02:06 PM (HTCOy)

324 Quick comment hits:

* what Ordinary American said - WTFFFFF is this about J6 prisoners being subjected to re-education and self-denunciation sessions?? In the US? WTF is this about? Have never heard of such a thing.

* have not followed the trial; even glancing at it periodically/via highlights brought up by knowledgeable sorts, my far-beyond-already-boggled mind is boggling, some more: how can obviously sketchy evidence, and withheld evidence, not nuke this proceeding, all by itself?

Posted by: rhomboid at November 17, 2021 02:07 PM (OTzUX)

325
2009 all over again.

biden and Fake News about to go into the ol' "Is Big Oil Making Too Much Profit And Not Paying Taxes" phase of deflection.

biden's handlers wrote a letter to biden's FTC to "investigate" "gas price manipulation" and "find out" why gas prices are so high. Yeah, it's a mystery.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 17, 2021 02:07 PM (D1Uy8)

326 Wizardry.

FILE #004A: 1920x1080 60fps >Save As > [menu choice] Internet 640x480 30fps

ALAKAZAM!

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 17, 2021 02:07 PM (wAnMi)

327 The prosecution is admitting giving the Rittenhouse defense a poorer quality video. They claim inadvertently.

Just like they accidentally failed to give the name of the Jump Kick Felon to the defense. "Oh, did we do that? My bad."

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 17, 2021 02:07 PM (00kEk)

328 Wait, they were sending EVIDENCE via phone?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 17, 2021 02:06 PM

We don't need no stinkin chain of custody.......

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at November 17, 2021 02:07 PM (bVYXr)

329 Applebee's ain't that bad, I've recently discovered.

Veteran's Day, I offered to meet-up with any Houston area Vets or other such of the Horde as would care to make the drive. Offer was accepted by none other than Hadrian the Seventh (of much dogshow fame), and we agreed to dine at an Applebee's that was about the same distance from us both. Applebee's was offering a free lunch or dinner to Veterans, so I figured "why not?", and took 'em up on the offer.

One six ounce sirloin later, along with garlic smashed 'taters and a side of steamed broccoli, well, I only left one tiny bit of broccoli on the plate in surrender. They put a plate of good food down in front of me, for free. And I was appreciative. Tipped the waiter a $20 for the excellent service. Store in Pasadena, TX. Clean, well run and good food. Not "great". But certainly, good.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 17, 2021 02:08 PM (QzJWU)

330 Oh Man: "there is now way what ADA Fatlock is saying is true"

-Trial Evidence Lady

Posted by: WisRich at November 17, 2021 02:08 PM (qKfc+)

331 293 Fatlock is lying his ass off. It's not "compressed" it's an entirely different file. They don't lower resolution on their own. They need to be saved in a lower resolution.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 17, 2021 02:02 PM (wAnMi)

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I've experienced issues when receiving videos on my Android sent from an iPhone where the video ends up ridiculously compressed and poor quality.

However, the prosecution sharing evidence via fucking TEXT MESSAGE just seems like an incredibly Mickey-Mouse way of doing things. Don't these attorneys have access to things like secure file-sharing repositories where something vaguely resembling accountability and proper retention could take place?

Jesus

Posted by: ballistic at November 17, 2021 02:08 PM (oXNqT)

332 Wait, they were sending EVIDENCE via phone?
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 17, 2021 02:06 PM (oHd/0)
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That's what they said, IIRC.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2021 02:08 PM (giAl5)

333
Why are the "j6" defendants Pleading out?

Why aren't they going to a jury trial??

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 17, 2021 02:08 PM (D1Uy8)

334 >>>305 Merrick Garland turned out to be a real arsehole, didn't he?
Posted by: IC - #FJB

He is going after conservatives because McConnell wouldn't hear his case for SCOTUS. Does this surprise anyone that he would have vengeance on us?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 17, 2021 02:08 PM (XSRBF)

335 305 Merrick Garland turned out to be a real arsehole, didn't he?
Posted by: IC - #FJB at November 17, 2021 02:04 PM (hV9ir)

he is supremely pissed off that he spent years wearing the costume of a moderate and then when the payoff was to come, Mitch put a halt to it

the Merrick Garland that we see now is the real Merrick Garland

a lying scumbag

Posted by: REDACTED at November 17, 2021 02:08 PM (us2H3)

336 He did put out a statement not too long ago, but it's not what I would hope and not nearly enough. As disappointed as I am with that, I'm thoroughly disgusted with every member of the GOPe. They can't possibly make it more clear who's side they're on.
Posted by: clutch cargo

Shorter on Trump: disappointed but not surprised. The whole Jan 6 thing has become a big political tar baby. Anyone getting involved gets it stuck on them, the "Media" liars. It is also meant to intimidate any of us Reich-wing nutjobs into EVER assembling to demonstrate in DC or anywhere else of significance.

Antifa and BLM, not so much.

What country do we live in? In is not the country I was born in, that's fer shure.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at November 17, 2021 02:09 PM (vcOmj)

337 However, the prosecution sharing evidence via fucking TEXT MESSAGE just seems like an incredibly Mickey-Mouse way of doing things. Don't these attorneys have access to things like secure file-sharing repositories where something vaguely resembling accountability and proper retention could take place?

Jesus
Posted by: ballistic at November 17, 2021 02:08 PM (oXNqT)
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That's my reaction. Gmail? Dropbox? Wut?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2021 02:09 PM (giAl5)

338 321 285 But I have a feeling once the full, naked force of the government's gunmen is unleashed, the regime can remain in place for a couple generations through terror alone.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 17, 2021 01:56 PM

on the plus side, it's likely that if the governments gunmen are unleased, they will spend most of their efforts trying to take each other out. (ie, Karmella and Biden) That's what has happened in every other corrupt government that's gotten to this point. (Russia's misery was because Stalin was so damned good at it)
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 17, 2021 02:06 PM (trdmm)

We're pretty much in the clear to win this so long as a Stalineseque figure doesn't show up. Which for now remains the case.

Posted by: Red Turban Someguy - The Republic is already dead! at November 17, 2021 02:09 PM (z5Vrg)

339 Evidence lady is not backing off.

Posted by: WisRich at November 17, 2021 02:09 PM (qKfc+)

340 Not to mention, this exposure of tossing around digital evidence between phones and E-Mail attachments is horrifying. This is wildly unsafe and mutable. No append-only logs, no forensic pathway, no real custody records. This is fucking astounding. Personal E-Mail addresses, insecure offsite storage, and more.

This is how these people are handling digital evidence? Is this normal? If it is, every single person convicted on digital evidence should be released. Immediately. This is serious mikey mouse shit and is wildly unsafe and insecure.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2021 02:09 PM (DU+/6)

341 they engage in cargo-cult button mashing in what is essentially deference to magic.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2021 02:05 PM (DU+/6)

That describes about 90% of people in any business.

Posted by: Tums Festival at November 17, 2021 02:10 PM (NsI03)

342
Fatlock's excuses keep changing the more he talks.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 17, 2021 02:10 PM (D1Uy8)

343 Wait, they were sending EVIDENCE via phone?
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 17, 2021 02:06 PM (oHd/0)

I have a hard time believing any of these video files were viewed/transferred using anything but a PC. He's already saying thumb drive. You literally have to open the file and save it off as some other format/resolution. You can alter the compression algorithm accidentally, but you can't lower the resolution by simply transferring the file.

The file itself will say when/how it was last saved. This is making my brain hurt.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 17, 2021 02:10 PM (wAnMi)

344 >>> Why are the "j6" defendants Pleading out?

Why aren't they going to a jury trial??
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 17, 2021 02:08 PM (D1Uy

Because they're imprisoned by a corrupt banana republic that is torturing and threatening them until they recant.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 17, 2021 02:10 PM (h/pNJ)

345 331
I've experienced issues when receiving videos on my Android sent from an iPhone where the video ends up ridiculously compressed and poor quality.
However, the prosecution sharing evidence via fucking TEXT MESSAGE just seems like an incredibly Mickey-Mouse way of doing things. Don't these attorneys have access to things like secure file-sharing repositories where something vaguely resembling accountability and proper retention could take place?
Jesus
Posted by: ballistic at November 17, 2021 02:08 PM (oXNqT)

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MMS can only handle so much on one file at a time. I don't think iPhone's use MMS between each other but they do when communicating outside of the Apple family.

So, plausible.

And yet...that's how you would send the evidence really quickly to somebody under a deadline that's right now with the promise that you'll send the full file later.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 17, 2021 02:10 PM (LvTSG)

346 -
Why are the "j6" defendants Pleading out?

Why aren't they going to a jury trial??

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 17, 2021 02:08 PM -
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A jury from DC? It would be the death penalty, legality be damned.

Posted by: irright at November 17, 2021 02:10 PM (SchQD)

347 He's been rotting in solitary confinement for 10 months. And now he'll spend 31 months more in jail.

For... "parading in a public place."

Hey guys, I knew you'd some around to my way of thinking!

Nice touch with the Scalia thing by the way, trust me no one ever trusts the "must have been some bad tea" argument any more.

Posted by: Vlad Putin at November 17, 2021 02:10 PM (ESjRY)

348 This should be subject to an immediate hearing, at a minimum. Put everyone in the chain of custody under oath. Then, refer the prosecutors to a bar hearing.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2021 02:10 PM (A0cwl)

349 Why are the "j6" defendants Pleading out?

Why aren't they going to a jury trial??

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 17, 2021 02:08 PM (D1Uy

Because the jury's in DC. They'd be even MORE fucked going to trial.

Posted by: Washington Nearsider at November 17, 2021 02:11 PM (cvNl1)

350 Wisco just reamed Kraus!

Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2021 02:11 PM (cF8AT)

351 He's putting the lawyers under oath. ha

Posted by: grammie winger at November 17, 2021 02:11 PM (45fpk)

352 Evidence lady is not backing off.

Posted by: WisRich at November 17, 2021 02:09 PM (qKfc+)

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She's realized the ADA is trying to throw her under the bus.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 17, 2021 02:11 PM (IUFR3)

353 Someone is trolling. I think one of the lawyers said "logarithm" instead of "algorithm" in court the other day.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 17, 2021 01:54 PM (nfrXX)

Well, lawyers aren't known for precise use of language, are they?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 17, 2021 02:11 PM (P3gRi)

354 This trial is turning into chaos.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2021 02:11 PM (A0cwl)

355 Why are the "j6" defendants Pleading out?

Why aren't they going to a jury trial??
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 17, 2021 02:08 PM (D1Uy

11 Months in Jail, no end in sight, and bad Lawyers.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 17, 2021 02:11 PM (oHd/0)

356 >>>What country do we live in? In is not the country I was born in, that's fer shure.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet

Not America. We're living in Nazi Germany now

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 17, 2021 02:11 PM (XSRBF)

357 Come on Judge, if your quesy, declare a mistrial.

Posted by: WisRich at November 17, 2021 02:11 PM (qKfc+)

358 But, the bigger question is: which version did the prosecution use in court?

Oh...the smaller version? Yeah...that's not an iPhone to Android problem.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 17, 2021 02:11 PM (LvTSG)

359 Judge not happy.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 17, 2021 02:11 PM (45fpk)

360 Yes, get a freaking expert. Better yet, dismiss this case. The lying liars are gonna lie, they've been lying and they always will lie. Let Binger go home and take it out on his chihuahua and BF.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 17, 2021 02:11 PM (wAnMi)

361 However, the prosecution sharing evidence via fucking TEXT MESSAGE just seems like an incredibly Mickey-Mouse way of doing things. "

Old joke made new - billionaire says to his friend, "Hey, it's my 5 year old son's birthday, so I bought the Kenosha DA's office for him!"
Friend: "Why in the world would you do that?"
Billionaire: "He said he wanted a Mickey Mouse outfit!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 17, 2021 02:11 PM (trdmm)

362 the video file was inadvertently compressed in the course of transmission from an iPhone to an Android phone is plausible.

Total BS.

Posted by: Eisenhorn at November 17, 2021 02:11 PM (NmkNm)

363 Motherfuckers.

I am a peaceable Anglo Saxon man, not by nature but by will, and I am starting to hate.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at November 17, 2021 02:11 PM (yQpMk)

364 Judge: I was queasy about this from the beginning...I'm even queasier about this now. (referring to the video)

Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2021 02:12 PM (cF8AT)

365
Posted by: Jim at November 17, 2021 02:08 PM (QzJWU)

It's starts with the Applebee's, man. Then, you're simping after illegal immigrant students. Then you're crying from shooting a .22.

It's a slippery slope.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 17, 2021 02:12 PM (/KPLX)

366 A jury from DC? It would be the death penalty, legality be damned.
Posted by: irright at November 17, 2021 02:10 PM (SchQD)

Individual states need to pull out all stops to prevent their citizens and residents from being extradited to D.C. Might as well send them to Beijing, where they probably would be treated more fairly.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 17, 2021 02:12 PM (nMx88)

367 >>> 356 >>>What country do we live in? In is not the country I was born in, that's fer shure.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet

Not America. We're living in Nazi Germany now
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 17, 2021 02:11 PM (XSRBF)

Recent meme, probably from here:
"It's amazing how fast the left went from punch-a-Nazi to papers-please"

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 17, 2021 02:13 PM (llON8)

368 Defense is back-pedaling to try to avoid testifying.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 17, 2021 02:13 PM (45fpk)

369 333
Why are the "j6" defendants Pleading out?

Why aren't they going to a jury trial??
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 17, 2021 02:08 PM (D1Uy

Because the DoJ will keep them imprisoned forever before allowing a jury trial, and not a single damn person with the power to stop this illegal action will do so, so they don't want to die in the gulag?

Welcome to the USSA.

Posted by: Bete at November 17, 2021 02:13 PM (Ojki1)

370 This should be subject to an immediate hearing, at a minimum. Put everyone in the chain of custody under oath. Then, refer the prosecutors to a bar hearing.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2021 02:10 PM

There is no chain of custody now that the prosecution is claiming they sent/received evidence via cell phone. Every piece of video evidence the prosecution introduced into evidence at this trial is suspect and the Judge should have it all removed from the trial record and inform the Jury of that.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at November 17, 2021 02:13 PM (bVYXr)

371 Kraus tried to claim that when he e-mail the video, the e-mail changed the name of the video file!

He's a fat dumbfuck!

Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2021 02:13 PM (cF8AT)

372
Fatlock's series of excuses for his and binger's treachery:

1. Video is not different quality.
2. Okay, the video is different quality but you knew it and had the higher quality video all along.
3. Fox News!
4. I resent being called a liar!
5. Maybe the Defense screwed up the computer file when we sent it to them.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 17, 2021 02:13 PM (D1Uy8)

373 I mean, just imagine what would have happened to him if he had participated in a bombing of the Capitol like Bill Ayers. Oh, wait...

Posted by: bicentennialguy at November 17, 2021 02:13 PM (IytoW)

374 362 the video file was inadvertently compressed in the course of transmission from an iPhone to an Android phone is plausible.
------------------

Easy to check, right here and now. Send the same file again, right now in court, and see if any compression takes place.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2021 02:13 PM (giAl5)

375 Applebee's ain't that bad, I've recently discovered.

Sometimes, eating local means eating the local shit that sucks. Something to be said for a consistent restaurant chain.

Posted by: Autumn Closing In at November 17, 2021 02:13 PM (AJj1X)

376 If the million protesters in DC had wanted to over through the government - or at least take over DC - they would have.

So this insurrection sh*t is idiotic. Compare to your average Latin American stolen election like the one we just had.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 17, 2021 02:13 PM (ESjRY)

377 the judge emotes a lot That's all I can say

Posted by: banana Dream at November 17, 2021 02:13 PM (h/pNJ)

378 Re Trump and J6 people, recall that the idiot children now running the shell of the country have as one of their many baseless ridiculous slander/talking points that Trump orchestrated or encouraged the idiocy on January 6. Which he obviously didn't.

This was the "basis" for the *2nd* absurd impeachment. This is the "issue" the farcical Jan. 6 Vyshinsky/"Commission" is "investigating - i.e., trying to confect something the cartoon propaganda outlets (AKA "the press") can spray at the dumbed-down North Korean masses now populating America.

So Trump has to be careful mouthing off about even completely separate and truly outrageous stuff like the treatment of the prisoners.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 17, 2021 02:14 PM (OTzUX)

379 Someone is trolling. I think one of the lawyers said "logarithm" instead of "algorithm" in court the other day.
Posted by: Oddbob at November 17, 2021 01:54 PM (nfrXX)
Well, lawyers aren't known for precise use of language, are they?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 17, 2021 02:11 PM (P3gRi)

That was driving me nuts, even a moron should know what logarithm means. They might think they've got rhythm, but they can't swing.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 17, 2021 02:14 PM (wAnMi)

380 The prosecution's excuse - that the video file was inadvertently compressed in the course of transmission from an iPhone to an Android phone is plausible.

The obvious experiment: send a second file, under controlled conditions, to see if such compression takes place.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2021 02:02 PM (bNBVj)

That 100% happens all the time and it's stupid... but the transfer should have been a file share rather than a direct send.

Posted by: ... at November 17, 2021 02:14 PM (objKH)

381 Total BS.
Posted by: Eisenhorn at November 17, 2021 02:11 PM (NmkNm)
++++
No, not at all. If there is a full-resolution video file added as an E-Mail attachment, it might well get compressed prior to transmission. There a bunch of possible reasons for this - attachment size limits on the sending E-Mail service, bandwidth management settings on the phone, etc. Lots of possibilities for the phone to very helpfully recompress the file to get it out the door.

And this is why you shouldn't be throwing digital evidence around willy-nilly without a forensic record or chain of custody that guarantees that you didn't degrade or otherwise fuck up the evidence.

This is totally astounding. At every level. It's unreal that they treat digital evidence this way.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 17, 2021 02:14 PM (DU+/6)

382 Judge should throw his ass in jail.

Posted by: Haywood at November 17, 2021 02:14 PM (pw0FN)

383 She's realized the ADA is trying to throw her under the bus.
Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 17, 2021 02:11 PM (IUFR3)

Exactly. Unlike the Soviet Union, this is happening in broad daylight, too.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 17, 2021 02:14 PM (nMx88)

384 Make Another Gulag Again.
- Fascist Democrats

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 17, 2021 02:14 PM (r5BVk)

385 >Why are the "j6" defendants Pleading out?

Why aren't they going to a jury trial??
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 17, 2021 02:08 PM (D1Uy

Their defense attorneys are rabid Trump-hating progs too, so they literally are besieged from every angle to denounce Bad Orange Man and huwite supremacy or stay in the clink for decades.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 17, 2021 02:14 PM (cSs/W)

386 Solid question and I agree one hundred percent. The only admirable thing Trump has done in response to 11/21-1/6 is refuse to concede.But his silence about the political prisoners has been unforgivable.

Can't argue with this.

Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 17, 2021 02:14 PM (2xGy+)

387 If a giant sinkhole opened up and swallowed DC whole, that wouldn't be a bad thing.

Posted by: Guzalot says FJB at November 17, 2021 02:15 PM (prSvo)

388 Why are the "j6" defendants Pleading out?
Why aren't they going to a jury trial??

They may know they will never find a sympathetic jury and hope that being transferred to another long term facility will provide them more comfort, especially since the term may be the same either way.
They are being abused in inhumane conditions in the holding facility in DC. It may be that anything is preferable.

Posted by: old chick at November 17, 2021 02:15 PM (sOete)

389 "It's amazing how fast the left went from punch-a-Nazi to papers-please"

It was...two years before COVID?...that CA formally legalized intentionally giving someone AIDS.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 17, 2021 02:15 PM (ESjRY)

390

NOOOD

noood

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 17, 2021 02:15 PM (D1Uy8)

391 Fucking millibytes. I don't have enough palms in which to immerse my face. How can you be alive in 2021 and think that millibyte is even a fucking word?! Let alone have a job?!

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 17, 2021 02:15 PM (OssQ4)

392 NOOD Judge freak out.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 17, 2021 02:15 PM (wAnMi)

393 Random question: Which Moron was it that was supposed to be on Pan Am Flight 103 but didn't make it?

Posted by: ... at November 17, 2021 02:15 PM (objKH)

394 Merrick Garland turned out to be a real arsehole, didn't he?
Posted by: IC - #FJB

He is going after conservatives because McConnell wouldn't hear his case for SCOTUS. Does this surprise anyone that he would have vengeance on us?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 17, 2021 02:08 PM (XSRBF)

That's why the Democrats put him up as AG. Because he'd be motivated to do their evil work.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 17, 2021 02:15 PM (XvPQV)

395 Fatberg should not be allowed to talk any more. His integrity was just impeached, and he can't answer the charge. Everything he says now is not relevant. It's all about smoke on the water right now, in hopes of obscuring the truth. The judge has a serious problem, and needs an immediate hearing. How trustworthy is any of this video evidence? Where did it come from? Why did the prosecution not give it to the defense? How can the jury see this stuff again? Oh my lord, Rittenhouse is on the line here!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2021 02:16 PM (A0cwl)

396 Hmm...how about this- judge orders video evidence excluded, then directs verdict since it's the only (not good) evidence of provocation.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 17, 2021 02:16 PM (9KXDf)

397 To my untrained eye this trial looks like a fucking ridiculous shitshow.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at November 17, 2021 02:16 PM (sWM8x)

398 Judge is going to reopen the evidence and admit the HD video....I think that's what he just said.

Posted by: Tami at November 17, 2021 02:16 PM (cF8AT)

399 >Then you're crying from shooting a .22.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 17, 2021 02:12 PM (/KPLX)

Come on, that really happened?!?!

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 17, 2021 02:16 PM (cSs/W)

400
I try to send video files via my Samsung phone through Verizon to my daughter and I know they knock down the file size. I think I get a warning and have to agree.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus at November 17, 2021 02:16 PM (dQvv7)

401 Not America. We're living in Nazi Germany now.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 17, 2021 02:11 PM (XSRBF)

No. This bunch isn't as smart as 1930s Germany.

We're living in the Salem Witch Trials - with social media. All brought to you by all the people from the same demographics.

Posted by: Autumn Closing In at November 17, 2021 02:17 PM (AJj1X)

402 Steve Harrigan of Fox just said the kid in GA was jogging, which is a lie
Posted by: REDACTED at November 17, 2021 02:05 PM (us2H3)

HLN is straight up propaganda on that case. They have a commercial encouraging you to watch the trial, showing a camera slowly going down a nice, suburban tree-lined street, then cut to three mug shots of redneck white men. Oh, they never say "poor black kid lynched by MAGAT white motherfuckers," but that is certainly the impression you would get as a casual viewer.

The media of any stripe needs to die.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 17, 2021 02:18 PM (2JVJo)

403 No, not at all. If there is a full-resolution video file added as an E-Mail attachment, it might well get compressed prior to transmission.

Wrong. If an attachment exceeds max size, you get a failed send not an automatic compression.

Posted by: Eisenhorn at November 17, 2021 02:18 PM (NmkNm)

404 By the way, perhaps the lawyers here can affirm or deny, I think the judge is giving the prosecution a lot of leeway, so as to give grounds for an appeal, if Kyle is convicted, and, also deny grounds for the state to appeal, if Kyle is acquitted.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 17, 2021 02:18 PM (IUFR3)

405 >>>No. This bunch isn't as smart as 1930s Germany.

We're living in the Salem Witch Trials - with social media. All brought to you by all the people from the same demographics.
Posted by: Autumn Closing In

Smart enough to know they can get away with fascism.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 17, 2021 02:19 PM (XSRBF)

406 ..It's starts with the Applebee's, man. Then, you're simping after illegal immigrant students. Then you're crying from shooting a .22. It's a slippery slope. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 17, 2021 02:12 PM (/KPLX)

LMAO! Superbly done, amigo!

*break*

I've said it a zillion times. The Judge needs to order the Jury to deliver a Directed Verdict of Not Guilty, vs. "mistrial w/ prejudice". Mis w/P is appealable by the State. A Jury Verdict is NOT, and takes Double Jeopardy off the table, safe for Fed Civil Rights charges, which will surely follow.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 17, 2021 02:19 PM (QzJWU)

407 I'm binge-rewatching The Wire right now and last night I watched one of the early episodes where the cops are standing around a dead body bitching about crime lab guys not showing up because they're tied up at a city councilman's house doing a full forensic because someone stole his lawn mower or some such thing.

The Wire is hard to watch for this reason, but its one of the most painfully accurate depictions of corruption and abuse of power ever put on film.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 01:50 PM (KZzsI)

The Wire is fiction based on reality. You can tell because the cops actually do eventually arrest the bad guys in The Wire.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 17, 2021 01:54 PM (XvPQV

In a prior life worked on the streets of Baltimore. Several seasons after it was initially on HBO I binged watch The Wire.
Fwiw if I'd worn a microphone and a GoPro camera while investigating crime in Baltimore.....The Wire IS reality. A faithful and accurate depiction of life on the street, as well as the media, education and government morass in Baltimore . To me The Wire is as much documentary as it is a dramatic HBO series.

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at November 17, 2021 02:20 PM (VBB4b)

408 That's my reaction. Gmail? Dropbox? Wut?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 17, 2021 02:09 PM (giAl5)

Put it on a thumb drive, and have a bonded courier physically carry it to the recipient.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 17, 2021 02:21 PM (P3gRi)

409 Solid question and I agree one hundred percent. The only admirable thing Trump has done in response to 11/21-1/6 is refuse to concede.But his silence about the political prisoners has been unforgivable.

Nobody should still be prisoner, held in solitary, without any clear path to trial, over what happened.

However - they're all dumb asses. Because you don't go and protest for a man - Trump - that couldn't be bothered to even personally engage in his own legal defense over getting fucked out of a Presidential Election. And he did not. He didn't even make a statement for several days. He "gave it to Rudy".

Posted by: Autumn Closing In at November 17, 2021 02:21 PM (AJj1X)

410 This trial is turning into chaos.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2021 02:11 PM (A0cwl)

Kind of like how the election was stolen.

Posted by: My name is Jose Jimanez at November 17, 2021 02:22 PM (Fs5vw)

411 Smart enough to know they can get away with fascism.

True that. But, to paraphrase the old joke, we ain't started playing Cowboys and Assholes yet.

Posted by: Autumn Closing In at November 17, 2021 02:23 PM (acnx4)

412 280 This trial is a mess.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 17, 2021 02:00 PM (A0cwl)

---------

Everything. Is. Broken.

[h/t Woman from The Tablet essay -- forget her name]

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! at November 17, 2021 02:23 PM (e6wrC)

413 ..Come on, that really happened?!?!
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 17, 2021 02:16 PM (cSs/W)

Not crying, but he did in fact, Scream Like A Girl at the very first shot. Came so close to actually dropping the Browning Buckmark, that I swiftly reached up to secure the gun in his hands. Huge, girly, post-shot flinch, scream and loss of most fine/gross motor control from about the elbows to the hands.

With Almighty God as my witness, every word is true.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at November 17, 2021 02:24 PM (QzJWU)

414 The lady in red hands go right through Joes head

https://tinyurl.com/35xncbud

Posted by: rhennigantx at November 17, 2021 02:24 PM (yrol0)

415 Meta data shows that the prosecution created the compressed file.

Judge did not understand that.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 17, 2021 02:24 PM (oHd/0)

416 Something I'm amazed at them getting away with is the House taking away committee membership of Republicans. I always thought that the majority got to chair the committees and had the majority of members on the committee. And that the other party chose who those members would be and the other party could not say anything about it.

Now I come to find out that the House can control what members of the minority party serve on committees. I can't recall in 50 years of ever hearing that happen until lately.

I wish the GOP had some balls because if they get the majority they should immediately start kicking people off the committees.

Sadly the won't because they're gutless. Which is why they're not getting any vote from me. I'll vote for local folks I know for the state legislature and such but national elections? Forget it.

Posted by: jakee308 at November 17, 2021 02:26 PM (h4cy5)

417 416 Jakee308 My sentiments exactly. They think they are shoo-ins for the midterms - LOL. Why would any of us vote for them when we know what we get when we do.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - Not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at November 17, 2021 02:29 PM (00M+L)

418 This is what happens when you don't pay your dues.

Posted by: Grand Poobah of the Loyal Order of Waterbuffalos at November 17, 2021 02:34 PM (3TihK)

419 The new rules (re: Kenosha) are for everyone. Who is the judge? Was there a jury and if so, who are they? Names, addresses, family members. These rules suck, but they are the rules the left insist on. Equal application.

Posted by: bob in Idaho at November 17, 2021 02:47 PM (nP/jv)

420 This is what happens to you when you willingly walk into the trap that was set up by a sitting president with the intention of being the center of attention. While Trump might not have been the one laying the traps, he organized the event to bring his supporters into the waiting arms of those who were setting the traps.

There is no chance that he did not see this coming a mile away. Which is why he did not go with the crowd to the Capitol Building as he planned to do. He knew they were being set up, that they were being entrapped, and 14 days later, holding the power of the pardon, he left office leaving these people in legal jeopardy.

Want to know why I voted for him in 2020 and will not vote for him in 2024, this was the final straw, among a mountain of them, that convinced me that Trump is not the man for the job.

Posted by: astonerii at November 17, 2021 02:49 PM (VcZlJ)

421 This miscarriage of justice may well prove to be the poison that ends our republic.

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at November 17, 2021 02:54 PM (TsIaP)

422 LOL nice try

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 17, 2021 02:55 PM (KZzsI)

423 DeSantis 2024

Posted by: Gonzotx at November 17, 2021 02:58 PM (arxua)

424 Keep your hands to yourself Bean Brain

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at November 17, 2021 06:09 PM (wGqjj)

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