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Following FBI's Political Raid On James O'Keefe, Contents Of His Privileged Communications With Lawyers Are Leaked to New York Times

And note-- O'Keefe is in a lawsuit with the New York Times.

The FBI launched a political raid on Project Veritas' offices, and the personal homes of James O'Keefe and his reporters -- with battering rams at the ready -- and then not only seized his private, confidential, protected communications with counsel, but then immediately leaked them to the corporation they are politically allied with whom James O'Keefe is suing.

The New York Times immediately ran a hit piece which they intend to help their court case, claiming that James O'Keefe talked to his lawyers about how to avoid breaking the law in his sting operations. In other words -- he sought legal advice as to how to... act lawfully while committing acts of non-state-approved journalism.

By the way, if you're going to secretly record anyone, you must consult a lawyer -- or at least understand the law keenly yourself -- to know if you are in a one-party or two-party consent state. If you're in a two-party consent state, you cannot record someone without their permission.

So yes -- you need a lawyer to advise you of such matters.

The New York Times -- again, being sued by James O'Keefe and Project Veritas in a case that the courts refuse to dismiss, which is going to trial -- spins this as "James O'Keefe has a long history of using lawyers' advice to help him skirt the law," or that sort of terminology.

The NYT, who themselves literally have an entire law firm on retainer to advise them in such matters, casts mere consultation with lawyers as some kind of shady criminal conspiracy.


And this was leaked to them by the FBI, after an illegal, political raid.

And these raids are all about Joe Biden directing the FBI to harass anyone who had contact with... his druggie self-confessed nymphomaniac daughter's lost diary! Something the federal law enforcement agencies have absolutely no jurisdiction over!

This.

Is.

Not.

America.

Not anymore.

This is straight-up fascism.

This cannot go on much longer.

And what cannot go on, will not.

A court has ordered the FBI to stop extracting data from James O'Keefe's phones. Perhaps some judges and government officials are not yet part of the fascist takeover of what was once America.

Here's the NYT, "talking its book," prepping the jury pool with the gift it got from its buddies at the Democrat Armed Enforcement Squad at the DOJ:


Mark Mazzetti
@MarkMazzettiNYT

Project Veritas has long occupied a gray area between investigative journalism and political spying, and documents reveal how much the group has worked with lawyers to gauge how far its practices can go before breaking the law. W/⁦@adamgoldmanNYT⁩ https://nytimes.com/2021/11/11/us/politics/project-veritas-journalism-political-spying.html?referringSource=articleShare

Sean Davis
@seanmdav

You clowns worked hand in glove with the corrupt spies and left-wing con artists on the most fraudulent political smear operation in American history--the Steele dossier--and you have the audacity to cast stones at someone else’s journalism? You people belong in Gitmo.

Will Chamberlain
@willchamberlain

If the New York Times has these memorandums -- why wouldn't it also have PV's privileged communications that relate directly to PV's lawsuit against the Times?

This is just a massive, massive scandal


Sean Davis
@seanmdav

The FBI is a corrupt, criminal organization that has no valid reason for existing.

I went to follow Drew Hernandez -- the videographer and commentator who appeared at the trial yesterday as a surprise (?) witness -- and I found, happily, that I was already following him.

Here's his advice:

Drew Hernandez
@DrewHLive

Pay attention to so called conservatives/patriots that don't report on James O'Keefe being targeted by the FBI

Excellent advice.

Though I'm pretty sure I can predict the entire list.

And they're not conservative. They're Conservative, Inc., and they're liberal grifters.

I think he might be talking about fed plants, though.

Defund the FBI.

Disband it.

Start a new agency.

Follow Malone's rules -- if the barrel is filled with rotten apples, pick fresh apples off the tree.

Posted by: Ace at 12:30 PM




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1 SPONGE!

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 12, 2021 12:30 PM (V6f9+)

2 Also, where has Sponge been lately?
He ok?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 12, 2021 12:30 PM (V6f9+)

3 Crooks - they're all crooks.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 12, 2021 12:31 PM (wAnMi)

4 The agency started by J Edgar Hoover is secretive, amoral, and easily manipulated by the powers that be?

Gasp!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 12, 2021 12:31 PM (LvTSG)

5 Does the FBI haff vays to make you talk?

Posted by: fluffy at November 12, 2021 12:32 PM (UnQlg)

6 Ain't gonna trust the FBI for a long long time

Posted by: Draki at November 12, 2021 12:32 PM (gxyqK)

7 Every GOP candidate needs to be asked if they will support disbanding the FBI. Heck, would they support a 50% budget cut as punishment for this misbehavior?

Posted by: The Rittenhouse Judge at November 12, 2021 12:33 PM (wmDcS)

8 No disband.

Nuke from space.

Collateral damage is permitted.

Even preferred.

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at November 12, 2021 12:33 PM (MkuC5)

9 Leaked....un-huh, sure.

Posted by: BignJames at November 12, 2021 12:33 PM (AwYPR)

10 Democrats Propaganda Ministry'spin Law Enforcement and Information Bureau

Posted by: Skip's Phone at November 12, 2021 12:33 PM (Z48zY)

11 A court has ordered the FBI to stop extracting data from James O'Keefe's phones.


Already done extracting. You didn't tell us not to look at it or "leak" it.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2021 12:33 PM (0ryfU)

12 Depending on Repukes like Grassley to fix this is a fool's errand.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at November 12, 2021 12:34 PM (g5I2H)

13 Crap. Off, sock!

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 12, 2021 12:34 PM (wmDcS)

14 I'm sure the 99.9% good guys in the FBI will also resign of this. Right?

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 12, 2021 12:34 PM (OalnH)

15 How could this not be worse than Watergate? Watergate was bullshit. This is out and obvious government action to cover up their crimes.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 12, 2021 12:34 PM (l4HL2)

16 Chek, please.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 12, 2021 12:34 PM (XSoJN)

17 FBI is a government sponsored cult disguised as a law enforcement agency.

Prove me wrong.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 12, 2021 12:34 PM (ZwxDF)

18 Start a new agency.

Let's not, and say we did.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 12, 2021 12:34 PM (wAnMi)

19 EVERYTHING IS WORSE THAN WATERGATE!!!!!

Posted by: Carl 'worse than Watergate' Bernstein at November 12, 2021 12:35 PM (KY22T)

20 Such a good movie

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 12, 2021 12:35 PM (dKiJG)

21 Yet another institution gone from the high trust model of society. If it ever was considered an institution that was highly trusted.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 12, 2021 12:35 PM (Do5/p)

22 Defund the FBI.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 12, 2021 12:35 PM (8quNM)

23 It was a political raid done by the fbi to help the nyt with the lawsuit that PV brought against them, nothing more, nothing less.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 12, 2021 12:35 PM (bVYXr)

24 It's a flamer!

Posted by: irright at November 12, 2021 12:36 PM (SchQD)

25 It's the corrupt tiny 99.99999% of the FBI that gives the vast 0.00001% ham&eggers a bad name.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 12, 2021 12:36 PM (l4HL2)

26 Waiting for the balloon to go up.

Really sick of this shit.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 12, 2021 12:36 PM (ekXJa)

27 That's just effin' great. I donate to Veritas. So they've got my info, along with everyone else's.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2021 12:36 PM (ptqGC)

28 Willowed:
Yeah, I've been in Buena Vista a few times and driven up to Leadville from there. Leadville is the highest altitude continuously occupied city in the US. It's like 10,400 ft above sea level. It's cold there even in the summer.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at November 12, 2021


***
The main thing I recall about Leadville was that every side street seemed to dead end at a mountainside. And one bar there had a sign in the window with a big red cross on it: "High Altitude Recovery Station."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 12, 2021 12:37 PM (txdEq)

29 Put Durham on it.

He specialized in FBI/DOJ corruption and malfeasance.

Should be able to get to the bottom of it in 25 years.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 12, 2021 12:37 PM (iaAVH)

30 As usual, every cocksucker in the GOP is silent.

Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 12, 2021 12:37 PM (2xGy+)

31 Summary judgement for PV since the NYT illegally obtained privileged legal communications of the plaintiff.

Posted by: WiNO at November 12, 2021 12:37 PM (EpDzw)

32 The FBI has been working overtime to make sure we uppity peasants know our place.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 12, 2021 12:37 PM (ZwxDF)

33 This cannot go on much longer.

We keep saying that, yet it does. I suppose there will be a denouement at some point but IMO the damage has been irreparable.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 12, 2021 12:37 PM (Xrfse)

34 FBI...killing the Bill of Rights one amendment at a time.

Posted by: BignJames at November 12, 2021 12:37 PM (AwYPR)

35 Cardiologist Who Said He 'Won't Cry at Funeral' For "Selfish" Unvaccinated People Suddenly Dies in His Sleep 2 Weeks After 3rd Covid Jab

https://tinyurl.com/dsfrhp7h

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at November 12, 2021 12:37 PM (MkuC5)

36 So let me get this right.

The FBI conspires with the NYT to create a pretext for a raid. Yes, conspires. Someone please prove to me contact was not made in advance.

The FBI raids a journalists home using the fig leaf of this pretext to steal, read and distribute privileged and confidential legal materials, protected by law, btw.

The FBI immediately provides that material to an organization that has a specific legal interest in a proceeding, and unveils the oppositions legal strategy for that action.

Now I know what Germany felt like in the late 1930's. Maybe East Germany after the war.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 12, 2021 12:37 PM (VpIIl)

37 I would be shocked to find that the agent who authorized the raid was married to someone at the NYT.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2021 12:37 PM (0ryfU)

38 Holy sheep shit! We need some new FBI guys.

Posted by: Rochelle Walensky, CDC Director at November 12, 2021 12:38 PM (4I/2K)

39 Sorry my bad on the message count......

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at November 12, 2021 12:38 PM (MkuC5)

40 such an obvious political alliance going after PV

Posted by: Draki at November 12, 2021 12:38 PM (gxyqK)

41 The FBI is the Secret Police now. And they work for the State, not for citizens.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 12, 2021 12:38 PM (V6f9+)

42 Morning.

I heard "nymphomaniac daughter" and came here as quickly as I could.

Posted by: Robert at November 12, 2021 12:38 PM (1Yy3c)

43 Nuke the FBI from orbit. Just to be sure. And the NYT, too.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2021 12:38 PM (ptqGC)

44 But first burn the old apple barrel and the apples in it.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 12, 2021 12:38 PM (WzJXd)

45 That's just effin' great. I donate to Veritas. So they've got my info, along with everyone else's.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2021 12:36 PM (ptqGC)

And that is part B of the op.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 12, 2021 12:38 PM (ekXJa)

46 Yeah, I've been in Buena Vista a few times and driven up to Leadville from there. Leadville is the highest altitude continuously occupied city in the US. It's like 10,400 ft above sea level. It's cold there even in the summer.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at November 12, 2021


***
In my story, I made up my own town on the highway just south of Leadville, and had my heroine say, tongue in cheek, that its major industries were "tourism, heavy drinking, and hating Leadville."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 12, 2021 12:39 PM (txdEq)

47 Willowed:

I have a murder mystery novel in my head. The body will be buried in a fresh grave at the graveyard in the middle of the night. Even if they knew it was there, the cops would need a warrant to dig it up.

Posted by: Hawkpilot at November 12, 2021 12:20 PM (8quNM)

"Dexter" had an episode where the DA did just that; The grave was dug a little deeper, the body placed in it, buried, and awaited the placement of the coffin on top for the burial the next day.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 12, 2021 12:25 PM (ynpvh)


That's basically the plot of the Sherlock Holmes story The Adventure of Lady Frances Carfax.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 12, 2021 12:39 PM (2JVJo)

48 Turn my back for a couple of minutes and out pops the flaming skull!

Definitely skull-worthy, I think. Because now NO-ONE can trust that their supposedly "privileged" communications are safe at all.

You think Kyle Rittenhouse's communications are going to be privileged?

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 12, 2021 12:39 PM (YIVH2)

49 Unexpectedly.

Posted by: ShainS -- Let's Poop Brandon! at November 12, 2021 12:39 PM (xv+Ao)

50 Off CDC sock.

Posted by: Count de Monet, Unvaccinated Kulak-American at November 12, 2021 12:39 PM (4I/2K)

51 Somebody needs to tell Pantifa that the J. Edgar Hoover building is chock-ablock with Klansmen and Nazis.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2021 12:39 PM (P3gRi)

52 No disband.

Nuke from space.

Collateral damage is permitted.

Even preferred.
Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG

What was once "fringe" is now becoming "mainstream", just a little.
Remember that 'far right wing' novel, "The Turner Diaries"?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at November 12, 2021 12:39 PM (vcOmj)

53 The FBI, and agency that incites riots and positions agents in those riots to further incite unrest and entrap innocent people has given confidential information between a citizen not charged with any crime and his attorney to a media outfit known to openly lie and falsify information, in an attempt to help that media company win a lawsuit against this citizen.

Do I have this right?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at November 12, 2021 12:39 PM (BFigT)

54

"Fey" Wray needs an anal rape by a 40 foot tall rabid gorilla.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 12:39 PM (s2VJv)

55 This is bigger than Watergate

Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2021 12:39 PM (NpAcC)

56 >>>20 Such a good movie


the only knock against it is the departure from history in having Ness a part of the income tax case. They tried to cover that by having the FBI member of the team be the instigator of that (it was the FBI who actually worked the income tax angle -- strangely, because Ness and the team were Treasury agents!), but still, Ness had nothing to do with that.

And I think Nitti died of old age, or at least a long while after the years in the movie.

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2021 12:39 PM (0G13K)

57 Also, where has Sponge been lately?
He ok?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 12, 2021 12:30 PM

Busy absorbing life?

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 12, 2021 12:39 PM (Do5/p)

58 26 Waiting for the balloon to go up.

Really sick of this shit.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 12, 2021 12:36 PM (ekXJa)

You and me both, brother

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 12, 2021 12:40 PM (V6f9+)

59 That's basically the plot of the Sherlock Holmes story The Adventure of Lady Frances Carfax.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 12, 2021 12:39 PM


Thank you. I was wracking my brain to remember the title.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 12, 2021 12:40 PM (m+jkK)

60 As usual, every cocksucker in the GOP is silent.

Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 12, 2021 12:37 PM (2xGy+)

Our fundraising emails didn't come through?

Huh

You good for $10, $15 or even $100?

Posted by: GOPe at November 12, 2021 12:40 PM (RFMGT)

61 Also, where has Sponge been lately?
He ok?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 12, 2021 12:30 PM

Busy absorbing life?
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 12, 2021 12:39 PM (Do5/p)

ISWYDT

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 12, 2021 12:40 PM (V6f9+)

62 We're still in the beginning, maybe nearing the end-of-the-beginning, but stuff like this will go on for much longer, I'm afraid.

Posted by: Dark Helmet at November 12, 2021 12:40 PM (Oka5v)

63 > A court has ordered the FBI to stop extracting data from James O'Keefe's phones.

Unless the court sent officers into the FBI labs to physically seize phones and all digital copies already made, I guarantee you the FBI continues as if nothing happened.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 12, 2021 12:40 PM (sG4Hj)

64 54

"Fey" Wray needs an anal rape by a 40 foot tall rabid gorilla.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 12:39 PM (s2VJv)

---

That's...very specific.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2021 12:40 PM (ptqGC)

65 Scandal Free Administration II: Kulak B**galoo

Posted by: ... at November 12, 2021 12:40 PM (4gbNJ)

66 There needs to be a planned and properly executed purging where all of the FBI's legal access and security clearances and physical access needs to be removed without warning and all of them dumped out on their heads. This is unbelievable. Complete abdication of their oath of office.

Posted by: squid_hunt at November 12, 2021 12:40 PM (7MBHe)

67 That's just effin' great. I donate to Veritas. So they've got my info, along with everyone else's.

Long ago, I quit fretting about my "dossier". Just took it for granted that I'm "on file". Nothing I can do about it so I carry on. I know that's not of much comfort but it kinda uncomplicates things.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 12, 2021 12:41 PM (Xrfse)

68 I'd still like an explanation for how someone's personal diary becomes a pretext for investigating journalist's, raiding their houses and subverting attorney client privilege?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 12, 2021 12:41 PM (iaAVH)

69 I heard "nymphomaniac daughter" and came here as quickly as I could.
Posted by: Robert at November 12, 2021


***
A real nymphomaniac would probably be a pretty sick and neurotic girl. Not somebody you'd want to have a long-term relationship with. A night or three, sure, but longer than that, no.

Not that I'm discouraging anybody, you understand.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 12, 2021 12:41 PM (txdEq)

70 Disband the FBI. Not today, not in 2024. Right fucking now. These people are terrorists, and they should be treated as such.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2021 12:41 PM (bkUtD)

71 -
worked with lawyers to gauge how far its practices can go before breaking the law. -
-----

Why the fuck do you think lawyers exist?

Posted by: irright at November 12, 2021 12:41 PM (SchQD)

72 Such a good movie


the only knock against it is the departure from history in having Ness a part of the income tax case. They tried to cover that by having the FBI member of the team be the instigator of that (it was the FBI who actually worked the income tax angle -- strangely, because Ness and the team were Treasury agents!), but still, Ness had nothing to do with that.

And I think Nitti died of old age, or at least a long while after the years in the movie.
Posted by: ace at November 12, 2021 12:39 PM (0G13K)

The Untouchables is terrible history but a very entertaining movie. One of Brian DePalma's best. Love the shootout in the train station.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 12, 2021 12:41 PM (V6f9+)

73 I WANT TO HAVE RICHARD NIXON'S BABY!!!!
I'LL NAME IT WATERGATE!!!!

Posted by: Carl 'worse than Watergate' Bernstein at November 12, 2021 12:41 PM (KY22T)

74 56 the only knock against it is the departure from history in having Ness a part of the income tax case. They tried to cover that by having the FBI member of the team be the instigator of that (it was the FBI who actually worked the income tax angle -- strangely, because Ness and the team were Treasury agents!), but still, Ness had nothing to do with that.

And I think Nitti died of old age, or at least a long while after the years in the movie.
Posted by: ace at November 12, 2021 12:39 PM (0G13K)

=========

I'm always off put by the very end of the movie. The crusader against booze, with Prohibition repealed, says to the press, with a twinkle in his eye, that he's just going to go for a drink.

In a way, it's this moral flexibility in a moral crusader that I ultimately find abrasive.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 12, 2021 12:41 PM (LvTSG)

75 >>>Not somebody you'd want to have a long-term relationship with. A night or three, sure, but longer than that, no.

a petri dish for Herpes and STDs

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2021 12:41 PM (0G13K)

76 55 This is bigger than Watergate
Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2021 12:39 PM (NpAcC)


Looking back, Watergate was petty larceny. This is murder.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 12:41 PM (s2VJv)

77 Summary judgement for PV since the NYT illegally obtained privileged legal communications of the plaintiff.

Posted by: WiNO at November 12, 2021 12:37 PM


SCOTUS has already ruled that a publisher may publish anything they receive even if it was stolen as long as they didn't steal it.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 12, 2021 12:42 PM (bVYXr)

78 Yeah, yeah, clearly using a lawyer to knowingly cross state lines to engage in unlicensed journalistic activity does establish a mindset to obstruct justice coming to you by not allowing yourself to be brought to justice for the crimes you failed to commit.

thank you, twitter lawyers!

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 12, 2021 12:42 PM (ZZK0E)

79 >>>I'd still like an explanation for how someone's personal diary becomes a pretext for investigating journalist's, raiding their houses and subverting attorney client privilege?
Posted by: Thomas Bender


Biden sent them there, because Biden or Jill demanded it.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2021 12:42 PM (bkUtD)

80 >>The Untouchables is terrible history but a very entertaining movie. One of Brian DePalma's best. Love the shootout in the train station.


oh it's great, i love it, I'm sayin "The ONLY knock"

love the music too

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2021 12:42 PM (0G13K)

81 OT, but never OT when talking about the fucking media, they must be getting scared further about the Rittenhouse trial, as I just saw a headline that the Judge is now to be taken down because of Asian Food jokes.
Not Asians, Asian food. Are you fucking kidding me. I can't stand these stories, you read one and two minutes later you're hungry for another.

Posted by: From that time at November 12, 2021 12:42 PM (4780s)

82 So. If you are going to donate to anyone at all, use a MasterCard or Visa gift card that you paid for with cash.

And use an anonymous name.

Posted by: Just Lily at November 12, 2021 12:42 PM (vivhj)

83 That's just effin' great. I donate to Veritas. So they've got my info, along with everyone else's.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2021 12:36 PM (ptqGC)
And that is part B of the op.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 12, 2021 12:38 PM (ekXJa)


I always thought this was one of the goals of this op was to get the donor list. I have to wonder though, if this can backfire on them in ways they never imagined. Or will they just go after the people they know can't fire back in a meaningful way?

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 12, 2021 12:43 PM (wAnMi)

84 "I have become what I have foresworn and I am convinced I have done right."

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2021 12:43 PM (0G13K)

85 I'm not surprised. This is what happens in Amerika these days if you are on the wrong side of the political fence. I'd have been shocked if they HADN'T been leaked.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 12, 2021 12:43 PM (ynpvh)

86 The National File published the diary a year ago. The story was dead. Why have the FBI raid a prominent investigative journalist now and focus attention on Ashley's claim that she was traumatized by her father in the shower?

I think Obama and the FBI are pressuring Biden to resign under the guise of defending him.

I think they're telling the reluctant Biden Crime Family that your year as pretend president is up.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at November 12, 2021 12:43 PM (Ndje9)

87 Stop extracting data? I don't think it dribbles out a little at a time. You either have it or you don't

Posted by: irright at November 12, 2021 12:43 PM (SchQD)

88 and this FBI bullshit smells like a Peter Strzok entrapment special. "hey buddy, can you hold on to my $10,000 cash if you're travelling to America?"

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 12, 2021 12:43 PM (ZZK0E)

89 Ace, to be absolutely disgusted by Con, Inc. just read the latest essay Andrew McCarthy, as published yesterday at FNC website.

He is more than willing to sacrifice the Republic to save the FBI/DOJ, using tortured logic to absolve them for ongoing crimes.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 12, 2021 12:43 PM (NBppC)

90 All these officers that are being let go because of the mandate could all be rehired in a new administration to form the new FBI.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2021 12:43 PM (NpAcC)

91 is it just me or does anyone else have trouble keeping the flag pole at full mast when you can practically feel the STD bugs jumping on to your hog

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2021 12:44 PM (0G13K)

92 Skull fornicate the FBI and it's publishing arm, the NYT.

Posted by: (jV+aN) President Orange Man Bad (Rheees Be Upon Him) at November 12, 2021 12:44 PM (jV+aN)

93 OT Judge's phone just went off again. At this point I have to wonder if he's just trolling the idiots. He's not that dim.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 12, 2021 12:44 PM (wAnMi)

94 We're looking at this wrong. The FBI did not become corrupt, incompetent, feral, political hatchet-men. They always were corrupt, incompetent, feral political hatchet-men. Hoover built the agency around that paradigm. Nothing has changed. The FBI enjoyed some rosy propaganda in the 70s and 80s mostly due to FBI and law enforcement TV shows and movies. But that was always lipstick on the pig. The FBI was and always will be corrupt, incompetent, feral, political hatchet-men. Burn the whole fucking agency down.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 12, 2021 12:44 PM (iFTx/)

95 In a way, it's this moral flexibility in a moral crusader that I ultimately find abrasive.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 12, 2021 12:41 PM (LvTSG)
----
Makes Lawful Neutral a very dangerous alignment since those people will do *exactly* what is allowed *within the law*. When the law changes, they now have permission to act differently than they did before.

Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 12, 2021 12:44 PM (YIVH2)

96 >>A real nymphomaniac would probably be a pretty sick and neurotic girl. Not somebody you'd want to have a long-term relationship with. A night or three, sure, but longer than that, no. Not that I'm discouraging anybody, you understand.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 12, 2021 12:41 PM (txdEq)

I dated one in college. Now she's a top government lawyer in Florida.

Posted by: Caliban at November 12, 2021 12:44 PM (HgGBT)

97 Oooh, burning skull? Or did I miss that on the first go?

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 12, 2021 12:44 PM (wAnMi)

98 I'd still like an explanation for how someone's personal diary becomes a pretext for investigating journalist's, raiding their houses and subverting attorney client privilege?
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 12, 2021 12:41 PM


Yuri...he thinks we need pretext. Is to be laughing.

Posted by: The FBI KGB at November 12, 2021 12:44 PM (m+jkK)

99 67 That's just effin' great. I donate to Veritas. So they've got my info, along with everyone else's.

Long ago, I quit fretting about my "dossier". Just took it for granted that I'm "on file". Nothing I can do about it so I carry on. I know that's not of much comfort but it kinda uncomplicates things.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 12, 2021 12:41 PM (Xrfse

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During the Obama years, I was working at a Tea Party rally, and a guy went through the crowd taking all of the Tea Party members' faces, and we were wearing name badges ( like idiots). Right after that, the TSA singled me out every single time I flew. That wasn't creepy at all.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2021 12:44 PM (ptqGC)

100 >>>89 Ace, to be absolutely disgusted by Con, Inc. just read the latest essay Andrew McCarthy, as published yesterday at FNC website.

He is more than willing to sacrifice the Republic to save the FBI/DOJ, using tortured logic to absolve them for ongoing crimes.

...

I did not read it, Huck. I'm feel gross just having read your description.

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2021 12:44 PM (0G13K)

101 81 OT, but never OT when talking about the fucking media, they must be getting scared further about the Rittenhouse trial, as I just saw a headline that the Judge is now to be taken down because of Asian Food jokes.

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you saw with cuck-ass Jon Gruden that they characterize nudie pics of cheerleaders as "misogynistic" content.

Also, yeah, the nature of the food is irrelevant because the joke was about the supply chain delaying their delivery of the food. But this judge is not an ally in bringing people to street justice, so he is an enemey and must be destroyed.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 12, 2021 12:45 PM (ZZK0E)

102 So. If you are going to donate to anyone at all, use a MasterCard or Visa gift card that you paid for with cash.

And use an anonymous name.

Posted by: Just Lily at November 12, 2021 12:42 PM


Like mine!

Posted by: Lesko Brandon at November 12, 2021 12:45 PM (bVYXr)

103 I'm always off put by the very end of the movie. The crusader against booze, with Prohibition repealed, says to the press, with a twinkle in his eye, that he's just going to go for a drink.

In a way, it's this moral flexibility in a moral crusader that I ultimately find abrasive.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I think the question was.."What will you do if Prohibition is repealed?"

Ness:" I might go out and get a drink"

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at November 12, 2021 12:45 PM (vcOmj)

104 Cardiologist Who Said He 'Won't Cry at Funeral' For "Selfish" Unvaccinated People Suddenly Dies in His Sleep 2 Weeks After 3rd Covid Jab

https://tinyurl.com/dsfrhp7h

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG

What's ironic here is I'm not crying about this guy.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 12, 2021 12:45 PM (OssQ4)

105 55 This is bigger than Watergate
Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2021 12:39 PM (NpAcC)


We need to stop buying into the horseshit that Watergate was anything more than a slow day for the LBJ white house. The reaction was a deep state coup overturning a landslide election.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at November 12, 2021 12:45 PM (g5I2H)

106 Long ago, I quit fretting about my "dossier". Just took it for granted that I'm "on file". Nothing I can do about it so I carry on. I know that's not of much comfort but it kinda uncomplicates things.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 12, 2021 12:41 PM (Xrfse)

File?...what do you think is in your permanent record?

Posted by: BignJames at November 12, 2021 12:45 PM (AwYPR)

107 Someone mentioned if PV has any WH sources they've been outed.

Posted by: It's Happening at November 12, 2021 12:45 PM (F6v1f)

108 Follow Malone's rules -- if the barrel is filled with rotten apples, pick fresh apples off the tree.

44 But first burn the old apple barrel and the apples in it.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 12, 2021 12:38 PM (WzJXd)

Yes. If you have a barrel of apple cider and pour a cup of sewage into it, you now have a barrel of sewage. If you have a barrel of sewage and pour a cup of apple cider into it, you still have a barrel of sewage.

Posted by: Gref at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM (AMIL/)

109 >>>I'm not surprised. This is what happens in Amerika these days if you are on the wrong side of the political fence. I'd have been shocked if they HADN'T been leaked.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)


And they'll get away with it - again - because who is going to bring them to justice? The DoJ? The Supremes?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM (bkUtD)

110 91 is it just me or does anyone else have trouble keeping the flag pole at full mast when you can practically feel the STD bugs jumping on to your hog

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that's why she was banging Uncle Hunter.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM (ZZK0E)

111 "Dexter" had an episode where the DA did just that; The grave was dug a little deeper, the body placed in it, buried, and awaited the placement of the coffin on top for the burial the next day.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 12, 2021
*
That's basically the plot of the Sherlock Holmes story The Adventure of Lady Frances Carfax.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 12, 2021


***
A Thirties Ellery Queen novel starts sort of like that. A rich man's will disappears after his funeral. Ellery deduces that the will must have been stashed in the coffin of the deceased. They dig him up and find an *extra* body, a stranger, stuffed in there with the regulation corpse -- but no will. Thus begins the most complex plot the EQ cousins ever devised: The Greek Coffin Mystery.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM (txdEq)

112 Real quick. That last video of the people stealing. They were only stealing from what I could tell laundry detergent. Wtf were they making with it.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM (GjUEo)

113 @79

>>Biden sent them there, because Biden or Jill demanded it.

No I get that, but the FBI/DOJ will never admit that, what I'm looking for is what could possibly be the criminal hook that would cause the federal LE apparatus to initiate an investigation for something that hasn't, to my knowledge, even been admitted to being stolen or even the legitimate property of Ashley Biden.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM (iaAVH)

114 But ace, the mid-terms!

Posted by: rhomboid at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM (OTzUX)

115 >>>97 Oooh, burning skull? Or did I miss that on the first go?


i added it shortly after posting, i rushed ot get the post up

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM (0G13K)

116 Veritas could not verify the authenticity of the diary, so they disregarded it, tried to give it to the fibs, and ultimately gave it to the police. Last year. But suddenly is worth a fib raid?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM (0ryfU)

117 I'm always off put by the very end of the movie. The crusader against booze, with Prohibition repealed, says to the press, with a twinkle in his eye, that he's just going to go for a drink.

In a way, it's this moral flexibility in a moral crusader that I ultimately find abrasive.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 12, 2021 12:41 PM (LvTSG)

So having never seen it, is he actually a moral crusader against booze or is he just a crusader for following the law?

Posted by: Buzzion at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM (G2zl5)

118 86 The National File published the diary a year ago. The story was dead. Why have the FBI raid a prominent investigative journalist now and focus attention on Ashley's claim that she was traumatized by her father in the shower?

I think Obama and the FBI are pressuring Biden to resign under the guise of defending him.

I think they're telling the reluctant Biden Crime Family that your year as pretend president is up.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at November 12, 2021 12:43 PM (Ndje9)

Or just the pretext to raid Veritas.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM (ynpvh)

119 103 I think the question was.."What will you do if Prohibition is repealed?"

Ness:" I might go out and get a drink"
Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at November 12, 2021 12:45 PM (vcOmj)

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Yeah, I think that's it. This guy who's spent the whole movie going after Al Capone, not because he's a violent criminal but because he is in the booze business, is just gonna go and get a drink now. He believes in nothing but the power of the federal government.

The movie makes me kind of hate Elliot Ness.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM (LvTSG)

120 oh right...tell me again, what did they impeach trump for? something about using law against political opponents for purely personal political gain?

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM (ZZK0E)

121 A court has ordered the FBI to stop extracting data from James O'Keefe's phones.
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Will Chamberlain; 16h
The FBI raided Project Veritas on a pretext and is now leaking their privileged communications to the New York Times

This is a scandal

https://tinyurl.com/nrk8eaxv

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM (UHVv4)

122 Back when I was a hippie, I hated the FBI, the draft, the cops, judges, etc.
I cut my hair but I never changed.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM (jTmQV)

123 The FBI is no better than Hitler's Gestapo these days.

They would be ashamed. If they had any shame.

dimocrap scum do not. And that is something you ALL need to realize. When dealing with scum of the Earth dimocraps, always remember that you are dealing with a lower life form. They just don't think like you and me.

Posted by: Uncle Rick at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM (48/MM)

124 That's just effin' great. I donate to Veritas. So they've got my info, along with everyone else's.

Long ago, I quit fretting about my "dossier". Just took it for granted that I'm "on file". Nothing I can do about it so I carry on. I know that's not of much comfort but it kinda uncomplicates things.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 12, 2021 12:41 PM


Back in the day I had a subscription to Soldier of Fortune magazine. Rumor was the fbi had a file on every subscriber. Not sure if that was true back then, but today I would bet the house on it being true.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 12, 2021 12:47 PM (bVYXr)

125 Thank you. I was wracking my brain to remember the title.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 12, 2021 12:40 PM (m+jkK)


I'm not a heavy-duty Sherlockian, but I do have several collections of the stories. Sadly, the Jeremy Brett version of Carfax was pretty weak, IMO.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 12, 2021 12:47 PM (2JVJo)

126 31 Summary judgement for PV since the NYT illegally obtained privileged legal communications of the plaintiff.
Posted by: WiNO at November 12, 2021 12:37 PM (EpDzw)

Hawaiian Judge - "No standing!"

Posted by: Thrawn at November 12, 2021 12:47 PM (5aFbR)

127 Thugs with badges.

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 12, 2021 12:47 PM (j40lz)

128 I'm always off put by the very end of the movie. The crusader against booze, with Prohibition repealed, says to the press, with a twinkle in his eye, that he's just going to go for a drink.

In a way, it's this moral flexibility in a moral crusader that I ultimately find abrasive.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 12, 2021 12:41 PM (LvTSG)

Well, the real Elliot Ness was no saint, to put it mildly.
And it fits his character, he's concerned about the Law. Once the Law permits something, it's no longer forbidden. He even has a speech about that, about 'harmless drinks' earlier in the film.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 12, 2021 12:47 PM (V6f9+)

129 If Okeefe did nothing wrong, he should not be worried about the fib going through his phones a d computers!

-TrueCon, inc, LLC.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2021 12:47 PM (0ryfU)

130 117 So having never seen it, is he actually a moral crusader against booze or is he just a crusader for following the law?
Posted by: Buzzion at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM (G2zl5)

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It's for the law, but the law is anti-booze. He kills people, arrests people, and runs roughshod over rights because people are buying and selling booze. And then, when it's repealed, "Whatever. I'm gonna get a drink."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 12, 2021 12:47 PM (LvTSG)

131 And they'll get away with it - again - because who is going to bring them to justice? The DoJ? The Supremes?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2021


***
Oh, honey, I left that group behind a *long* time ago.

Posted by: Diana Ross at November 12, 2021 12:47 PM (txdEq)

132 How dare you impune honest ham and Eggers what are great Americans!

Posted by: Hannity who is starting to look like he glows at November 12, 2021 12:48 PM (Ojki1)

133 Let's also keep in mind this means the diary in question is real, and belonged to Ashley Biden. You can't raid someone for stolen property if it is a fake.

So, we now have proof Joe Biden molested his own daughter when she was a child.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 12, 2021 12:48 PM (ESjRY)

134 Let the weekend begin!

Posted by: Skip's Phone at November 12, 2021 12:48 PM (Z48zY)

135 Real quick. That last video of the people stealing. They were only stealing from what I could tell laundry detergent. Wtf were they making with it.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One

Well, you could re-sell it for cash.

Powdered laundry detergent can also be used to make napalm (mix with gasoline) or an explosive (mix with....nah!).

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at November 12, 2021 12:48 PM (vcOmj)

136 what do you think is in your permanent record?

Don't really care.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 12, 2021 12:48 PM (Xrfse)

137 The Untouchables is terrible history but a very entertaining movie. One of Brian DePalma's best. Love the shootout in the train station.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 12, 2021 12:41 PM (V6f9+)


Yeah. That was great.

Posted by: Sergei Eisenstein at November 12, 2021 12:48 PM (EughT)

138 132 How dare you impune honest ham and Eggers what are great Americans!
Posted by: Hannity who is starting to look like he glows at November 12, 2021 12:48 PM (Ojki1)


Samantha Eggar >>>>>> Ham'n Eggers

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 12:48 PM (s2VJv)

139 The FBI is no better than Hitler's Gestapo these days.

They would be ashamed. If they had any shame.

dimocrap scum do not. And that is something you ALL need to realize. When dealing with scum of the Earth dimocraps, always remember that you are dealing with a lower life form. They just don't think like you and me.
Posted by: Uncle Rick at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM (48/MM)

That's a terrible thing to say.

Also untrue, the Gestapo was competent.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 12, 2021 12:48 PM (V6f9+)

140 I dated one in college. Now she's a top government lawyer in Florida.
Posted by: Caliban



I'm sure she earned it the old fashion way. Like Kamela.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 12, 2021 12:48 PM (KY22T)

141 "... these raids are all about Joe Biden directing the FBI to harass anyone who had contact with... his druggie self-confessed nymphomaniac daughter's lost diary! Something the federal law enforcement agencies have absolutely no jurisdiction over!"

That gave them a nice pretext, but it may have been only that. They want to know what genuine investigative reporters have on them or their leftist/DeepState allies (like the NYSlimes).

Some suggested this is just another "tactic and method" of the FBI, and maybe they even were involved in putting the diary out there, to entrap any of their targets that reported on it. Entrapment of political enemies is their thing. (Trump/Russia -- Michigan gov kidnapping fiasco, Jan 6th "Insurrection" led by FBI assets with barriers removed and crowd waved inside)

Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2021 12:48 PM (Cus5s)

142 "A court has ordered the FBI to stop extracting data from James O'Keefe's phones."


Surrrrre, we'll get right on that.


Posted by: FBI at November 12, 2021 12:48 PM (YU505)

143 Love the shootout in the train station.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 12, 2021 12:41 PM (V6f9+)

Yeah. That was great.
Posted by: Sergei Eisenstein at November 12, 2021 12:48 PM (EughT)

Yes, I know. But DePalma steals from the greats.
I'm still a fan.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 12, 2021 12:49 PM (V6f9+)

144 >>>what I'm looking for is what could possibly be the criminal hook that would cause the federal LE apparatus to initiate an investigation for something that hasn't, to my knowledge, even been admitted to being stolen or even the legitimate property of Ashley Biden.
Posted by: Thomas Bender


I assume they simply wanted access to PVs records and donors, as others said here. They used the Biden diary as "probable cause" to get into the residence and began a fishing expedition.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2021 12:49 PM (bkUtD)

145 You'll never get a "Disband the FBI" bill through Congress.

But you might get a "Disjoint the FBI" bill by which you hive off the Domestic Security bits from the Law Enforcement bits. Doing that under a Republican Administration that cares about this stuff would give the opportunity to reform/cull with the breakup as cover.

Posted by: Match Checksout at November 12, 2021 12:49 PM (dYe5S)

146 The NYT, who themselves literally have an entire law firm on retainer to advise them in such matters, casts mere consultation with lawyers as some kind of shady criminal conspiracy.
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This is of a piece with Binger excoriating Kyle Rittenhouse for having exercised his right to silence before testifying.

They're both an attempt to impute illegal/shady behavior from a perfectly lawful exercise of rights.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2021 12:49 PM (YqDXo)

147 As usual, every cocksucker in the GOP is silent.

Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 12, 2021 12:37 PM (2xGy+)


Has that severely conservative warrior Cruz done one of his patented SIC BURNZZZ tweets? Or Paul hauled someone in front of him for a round of bloviating posture?

Those two clowns are just as much worthless, grifting assholes as Mittens.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 12, 2021 12:49 PM (2JVJo)

148 During the Obama years, I was working at a Tea Party rally, and a guy went through the crowd taking all of the Tea Party members' faces, and we were wearing name badges ( like idiots). Right after that, the TSA singled me out every single time I flew. That wasn't creepy at all.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November

In the early 2000s we went to a small political fundraiser at a California politician's house and every donor at that party was audited by the IRS. I don't think that was a coincidence.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 12, 2021 12:49 PM (gyRx0)

149 133 Let's also keep in mind this means the diary in question is real, and belonged to Ashley Biden. You can't raid someone for stolen property if it is a fake.

So, we now have proof Joe Biden molested his own daughter when she was a child.
Posted by: 18-1 at November 12, 2021 12:48 PM (ESjRY)


Molest is a dandified way of saying fuck.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 12:49 PM (s2VJv)

150 128 Well, the real Elliot Ness was no saint, to put it mildly.
And it fits his character, he's concerned about the Law. Once the Law permits something, it's no longer forbidden. He even has a speech about that, about 'harmless drinks' earlier in the film.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 12, 2021 12:47 PM (V6f9+)

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It feels like a celebration of power and nothing else. It's two power centers fighting over something that ultimately doesn't seem to matter. In fact, Ness was on the wrong side of freedom.

If the movie set him up as going after Capone because Capone was violent, that would be one thing. But it's explicitly because of the booze.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 12, 2021 12:49 PM (LvTSG)

151 -
Long ago, I quit fretting about my "dossier". Just took it for granted that I'm "on file". Nothing I can do about it so I carry on. I know that's not of much comfort but it kinda uncomplicates things.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 12, 2021 12:41 PM -
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The post office photographs every piece of mail you receive and has for years. And that's just one little piece of the picture they have of us.

Posted by: irright at November 12, 2021 12:49 PM (SchQD)

152 I think the question was.."What will you do if Prohibition is repealed?"

Ness:" I might go out and get a drink"

Posted by: Bozo Conservative...Living on the Prison Planet at November 12, 2021 12:45 PM

Yeah, that is what I remember (granted, I have not watched the movie in years). Was he a crusader against booze or was he a crusader for strictly following the law and setting an example for others? That's what I remember him telling the police force when they introduced him to them. He told them that they can't go around enforcing the law against booze if they themselves were drinking alcohol. So he wanted them all to stop drinking.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 12, 2021 12:49 PM (Do5/p)

153 OT, that Saule Omarova sounds like a great foreigner to put in charge of our country's wealth. She's obviously very smart, knows everything, and has America's best interests at heart.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 12, 2021 12:49 PM (ZZK0E)

154 A school board in TEXAS had a retired Army Captain and a minister arrested on charges of, "disorderly conduct with intent to disrupt a meeting."

The veteran told the board it was illegal for them to pass a tax increase and the minister brought forward evidence the board helped cover up an alleged assault by the school superintendent against his mistress.

https://bit.ly/3n9tflE

Posted by: bonhomme at November 12, 2021 12:50 PM (sG4Hj)

155 Thugs with badges.
Posted by: Roland THTG


Badges? Badges? I don't need no stinkin' badges!

HAHAHAHAHA!

Posted by: Andrew McCarthy, paragon of virtue at November 12, 2021 12:50 PM (vcOmj)

156 >>123 The FBI is no better than Hitler's Gestapo these days.

and yet, people still support cocksuckers like Hannity and Bongino.

Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 12, 2021 12:50 PM (2xGy+)

157 his druggie self-confessed nymphomaniac daughter
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Wow. Is that true??

If so, what a family!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2021 12:50 PM (YqDXo)

158 that's why she was banging Uncle Hunter.
Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM (ZZK0E)


Do the bugs simply cancel each other out? Or is it more like the Siege of Antwerp?

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 12, 2021 12:50 PM (wAnMi)

159 Cardiologist Who Said He 'Won't Cry at Funeral' For "Selfish" Unvaccinated People Suddenly Dies in His Sleep 2 Weeks After 3rd Covid Jab

https://tinyurl.com/dsfrhp7h

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at November 12, 2021 12:37 PM (MkuC5)

Dug a little deeper on this. Appears to be true. Karma is a bitch.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2021 12:50 PM (P3gRi)

160 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM (LvTSG)

Could not agree more. Plus prohibition was stupid and helped create violence. Thanks feds.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 12, 2021 12:50 PM (GjUEo)

161 Here's what's so frightening. The extent of the politicization of the FBI, DOJ, IRS, CDC, OSHA, etc., is accelerating. This PV item is just the latest "in your face" brazen flouting of all known rules/laws/ethical boundaries. And just like IRS scandal, the Russia! Russia! Russia! hoax scandal, the scandal about the legal treatment of BLM Antifa vs. Jan 6 demonstrators, just to name a few, this PV scandal is going to lead to nothing, at least on the criminal side. Maybe PV can make a giant civil suit out of this, in the right state court, but it's truly terrifying that there is no help coming at the criminal/government level. The GOP is, and has for years now, been completely AWOL on the complete politicization of the federal government. It's so bad, the FBI and NYTs here, are violating every norm right in our faces and laughing about it, and they're right to do so. NO ONE has been punished in the Fed Gov for any of the scandals, and in fact the bad actors have prospered.

Posted by: RichardWindsor at November 12, 2021 12:50 PM (9LG1B)

162 People need to stop watching that fuckhead Hannity until he gets the message to stop fluffing the FIB.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at November 12, 2021 12:50 PM (g5I2H)

163 I listen to Bernie and Sid on WABC in the car sometimes. Sid Rosenberg is going to an annual dinner in honor of the FBI this weekend. If I wasn't driving, I would have called in to ask why he's supporting an organization which did this to an American citizen. Great show, BTW, but they need to get with today's program. There are no 'ham-and-eggers' anymore. Those days are gone.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 12, 2021 12:51 PM (+IbPv)

164 162 People need to stop watching that fuckhead Hannity until he gets the message to stop fluffing the FIB.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at November 12, 2021 12:50 PM (g5I2H)


"I know, right?!"

- - Andy McCarthy

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 12:51 PM (s2VJv)

165 There are no red lines.

Posted by: In case you were wondering at November 12, 2021 12:51 PM (+ugqD)

166 Thank God for Ace and his flaming skulls. Otherwise this stuff would just go down the memory hole.

Posted by: Caliban at November 12, 2021 12:51 PM (HgGBT)

167 Biden sent them there, because Biden or Jill demanded it.

No I get that, but the FBI/DOJ will never admit that, what I'm looking for is what could possibly be the criminal hook that would cause the federal LE apparatus to initiate an investigation for something that hasn't, to my knowledge, even been admitted to being stolen or even the legitimate property of Ashley Biden.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM


ashley biden reported the theft of her diary and some other personal things to the local PD and now it's become literally a federal case. I suspect there is more to the diary than we have seen and that's why PV dropped it like a hot potato and wanted nothing to do with it after her lawyer refused to take it back, they smelled a setup.

Posted by: Mister Scot (Formerly GWS) at November 12, 2021 12:51 PM (bVYXr)

168 163 I listen to Bernie and Sid on WABC in the car sometimes. Sid Rosenberg is going to an annual dinner in honor of the FBI this weekend. If I wasn't driving, I would have called in to ask why he's supporting an organization which did this to an American citizen. Great show, BTW, but they need to get with today's program. There are no 'ham-and-eggers' anymore. Those days are gone.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 12, 2021 12:51 PM (+IbPv)


Dimwit asshole's cousin is Norm Coleman.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 12:51 PM (s2VJv)

169 OT, that Saule Omarova sounds like a great foreigner to put in charge of our country's wealth. She's obviously very smart, knows everything, and has America's best interests at heart.
Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 12, 2021 12:49 PM (ZZK0E)
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And will implement the same policies that caused her erstwhile country of residence to collapse.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 12, 2021 12:51 PM (YqDXo)

170
J. Edgar Hoover was a queer who lived with his male 'wife' during a time when this was completely unacceptable to society and was considered to be a fatally compromising weakness fir anyone dealing with government secrets. Everyone in D.C. knew but kept quiet about it.

Refer to Kansas City Massacre. The corruption of the agency goes back to the beginning. Everyone in the federal government ignoring the elephant in the room also goes back to the beginning. The public was presented with movies and TV shows about the heroic FBI. That a goggle-eyed homo megalomaniac who assigned hundreds of federal employees to curate blackmail files was in charge, was not disclosed.

They quit trying so hard to conceal what they are in recent years.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 12, 2021 12:51 PM (CLLzU)

171 I feel like I am back in Malaysia - this is how corrupt third world countries operate.

Posted by: IC - #FJB at November 12, 2021 12:52 PM (hV9ir)

172 Do the bugs simply cancel each other out?

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I think it's what the medical community calls the Three Stooges effect

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 12, 2021 12:52 PM (ZZK0E)

173 I'm always off put by the very end of the movie. The crusader against booze, with Prohibition repealed, says to the press, with a twinkle in his eye, that he's just going to go for a drink.

In a way, it's this moral flexibility in a moral crusader that I ultimately find abrasive.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 12, 2021 12:41 PM (LvTSG)


I saw it as a bit darker - Ness upholds Prohibition when it's the law, but ignores it when it is repealed. IOW, he doesn't care about the justness of a law, only in that it is followed to the letter. 'Behfel ist behfel,' as certain members of a defeated army were wont to say.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 12, 2021 12:52 PM (2JVJo)

174 In the early 2000s we went to a small political fundraiser at a California politician's house and every donor at that party was audited by the IRS. I don't think that was a coincidence.
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 12, 2021 12:49 PM (gyRx0)


I got that pleasure for the same thing in 2012. Not a coincidence at all. Wound up with them paying $3600ish, but the real point was making our lives miserable for 6 months. The accountant wound up costing a lot more than that.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 12, 2021 12:52 PM (wAnMi)

175 86 The National File published the diary a year ago. The story was dead. Why have the FBI raid a prominent investigative journalist now and focus attention on Ashley's claim that she was traumatized by her father in the shower?

I think Obama and the FBI are pressuring Biden to resign under the guise of defending him.

I think they're telling the reluctant Biden Crime Family that your year as pretend president is up.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives
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And they are publishing it again along with emails from Hunter and his dad.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 12, 2021 12:52 PM (WzJXd)

176 This banana republic stuff is getting very old.

Posted by: Infidel at November 12, 2021 12:52 PM (aH0Li)

177 121 A court has ordered the FBI to stop extracting data from James O'Keefe's phones.
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Will Chamberlain; 16h
The FBI raided Project Veritas on a pretext and is now leaking their privileged communications to the New York Times

This is a scandal

https://tinyurl.com/nrk8eaxv

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM (UHVv4)

If the text included in that tweet was from NYT, it is surely defamation, e.g., calling what Project Veritas does as "deceptive reporting practices". Prove it, assholes. Oh yeah, you're already being sued for doing that to the SAME PLAINTIFF.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 12, 2021 12:52 PM (ynpvh)

178 116 Veritas could not verify the authenticity of the diary, so they disregarded it, tried to give it to the fibs, and ultimately gave it to the police. Last year. But suddenly is worth a fib raid?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM (0ryfU)


Deep State has wanted Project Veritas GONE for years. I believe the diary was used as an excuse to let the FBI get the goods on them, to shut them down and jail as many as possible. As ordered by the Democrat Junta.

Posted by: Gref at November 12, 2021 12:52 PM (AMIL/)

179 Not just disbanded, but former employees can never work in any sort of law enforcement area ever again.

Posted by: Eisenhorn at November 12, 2021 12:52 PM (79FgF)

180 Has anyone seen the search warrant and who signed it?

Posted by: LASue at November 12, 2021 12:52 PM (Ed8Zd)

181 In addition to Joey showering with young Ashley, she talks about Jill being emotionally distant. Jill knew everything Joe was doing, and just pretended everything was fine.

So moral and decent, right? Trash family.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2021 12:53 PM (ptqGC)

182 >>>ashley biden reported the theft of her diary and some other personal things to the local PD and now it's become literally a federal case


Funny how Hunter's laptop never became a federal case. At least not one they wanted to investigate.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2021 12:53 PM (bkUtD)

183 173 I saw it as a bit darker - Ness upholds Prohibition when it's the law, but ignores it when it is repealed. IOW, he doesn't care about the justness of a law, only in that it is followed to the letter. 'Behfel ist behfel,' as certain members of a defeated army were wont to say.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 12, 2021 12:52 PM (2JVJo)

==========

I think you've hit on the point I was dancing around, looking for. The law is good no matter what is a terrible idea, and Ness would happily throw you in a gulag for not getting vaxxed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 12, 2021 12:53 PM (LvTSG)

184 The Untouchables is terrible history but a very entertaining movie. One of Brian DePalma's best. Love the shootout in the train station.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 12, 2021


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The TV series is not much better in the history department, but it's very entertaining.

Little known fact about Ness: He later became the police commissioner ("Public Safety Officer," I think) in Cleveland at the time of the serial killer case the Torso Murderer. The guy was never caught as far as I know. Ness's cops did everything they could do in 1948 or whatever, without today's forensics and databases. (Which just makes the story more interesting to me.)

Posted by: Diana Ross at November 12, 2021 12:53 PM (txdEq)

185 176 This banana republic stuff is getting very old.

Posted by: Infidel at November 12, 2021 12:52 PM (aH0Li)

"A bannana republic, if you can keep it".--GOP

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 12, 2021 12:53 PM (ynpvh)

186 Noone couldve seen this coming. It must be that pesky .0001 of the Fbi that did this. Good thing 99.999% of the FBI are the nicest, most charitable, and honorable people that do everything by the book and would never ever put up with corruption in their midst. Truly Top Men.

Posted by: Theskepticalschnauzer aka Lonebadger at November 12, 2021 12:53 PM (K7Mcs)

187 33 This cannot go on much longer.

We keep saying that, yet it does. I suppose there will be a denouement at some point but IMO the damage has been irreparable.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 12, 2021 12:37 PM (Xrfse)


Well, it won't happen instantaneously. First the malfeasance creates large scale economic dysfunction. This has obviously been happening for a couple of years now. Then the economic dysfunction creates hardship, food shortages, and so forth. That's starting to happen. Then the hardship catalyzes popular revolts because the gap between life and (possible) death has been sufficiently reduced.

Posted by: CppThis at November 12, 2021 12:53 PM (UewuT)

188 I think they're telling the reluctant Biden Crime Family that your year as pretend president is up.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at November 12, 2021 12:43 PM (Ndje9)

Or just the pretext to raid Veritas.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM


Embrace the power of "and" here.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 12, 2021 12:53 PM (m+jkK)

189 "A court has ordered the FBI to stop extracting data from James O'Keefe's phones."

Like it's some kind of medieval machine they can turn off. RYFKM?

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 12, 2021 12:53 PM (OssQ4)

190 Let us never forget that the agency that the FBI replaced was disbanded for corruption up to and including helping a grifter get away with murder and theft.

Posted by: AmericanHawkman at November 12, 2021 12:53 PM (VfMhS)

191 Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 12, 2021 12:51 PM (CLLzU)

Great points. Please tell me Wild Bill Donovan was not a piece of shit. Even though his organization is.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 12, 2021 12:53 PM (GjUEo)

192 Been wondering if books 10 years from now, that is if we are not living in a Leftist Hell hole, will Sundowner's family secrets get out.

Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2021 12:53 PM (2JoB8)

193 > I just saw a headline that the Judge is now to be taken down because of Asian Food jokes.

Did you hear the joke? It wasn't even a stereotype or anything like that. He just said he hoped the food wasn't stuck on a ship out by long beach.

Even if I try to "think" like a commie fuck, I can't see the offense.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 12, 2021 12:54 PM (sG4Hj)

194 "I know, right?!"

- - Andy McCarthy
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 12:51 PM (s2VJv)


To Levin's credit he dumped that turd off his guest list.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at November 12, 2021 12:54 PM (g5I2H)

195 Let's also keep in mind this means the diary in question is real, and belonged to Ashley Biden. You can't raid someone for stolen property if it is a fake.

Posted by: 18-1 at November 12, 2021 12:48 PM

I wouldn't say that's true anymore. Lots of shit has been done by the government over the past 20 months -- hell, the past 5 years -- based on lies. Wasn't the whole Russian collusion hoax based on some fake documents?

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 12, 2021 12:54 PM (Do5/p)

196 >>>So moral and decent, right? Trash family.
Posted by: Jane D'oh

Hannibal Lecter said it succinctly:

"Good nutrition's given you some length of bone, but you're not more than one generation from poor white trash, are you?"

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2021 12:54 PM (bkUtD)

197 Move the FBI hq to fargo. Put the DOJ in Casper, WY.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2021 12:54 PM (0ryfU)

198 Defund the FBI.
Disband it.
Start a new agency.


disagree with this point Ace, give the policing powers legitimately needed to the US marshals and drop the rest.

Burn down the hover building, scatter the stones where it once stood and salt the earth that nothing may ever occur there again.

let THAT stand as a stark warning to the rest of the federal government...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at November 12, 2021 12:54 PM (8D42x)

199 I wouldn't be surprised if there were FBI agents posting on this site weeks before the January 6 incident.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2021 12:54 PM (NpAcC)

200 The post office photographs every piece of mail you receive and has for years. And that's just one little piece of the picture they have of us.

Rats. I guess they have my love letter to Susanna Hoffs.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 12, 2021 12:54 PM (Xrfse)

201 It feels like a celebration of power and nothing else. It's two power centers fighting over something that ultimately doesn't seem to matter. In fact, Ness was on the wrong side of freedom.

If the movie set him up as going after Capone because Capone was violent, that would be one thing. But it's explicitly because of the booze.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 12, 2021 12:49 PM (LvTSG)

The movie explicitly sets up Capone as a murderer, worse, a killer of children. Ness, however, is a Treasury agent. He can't go after Capon for homicide, that's a state-level crime. He IS committed to 'getting' Capone but he has to use the tools he has.
He goes after his booze operation, because it hurts him.
""He"" goes after his tax returns, despite the irony of prosecuting a murderer for not paying his taxes, which he also states in the movie.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 12, 2021 12:54 PM (V6f9+)

202 I'm not a heavy-duty Sherlockian, but I do have several collections of the stories. Sadly, the Jeremy Brett version of Carfax was pretty weak, IMO.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 12, 2021 12:47 PM


I don't recall seeing that one. Maybe because of that. Shame, really, since Brett Holmes is best Holmes.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 12, 2021 12:54 PM (m+jkK)

203 This is all just so utterly soul crushing. The realization that, as Ace succinctly put it, this is not America any longer. This feral federal gov't is a garbage Marxist takeover and they are not just getting there...they are there. The transformation is complete.

What remains is how do we go forward. Where have all the voices been, other than conservative media, that things are very, very wrong? This dates back, in earnest, to Obama's coordination with all branches of this monstrous fed behemoth in targeting Donald Trump. What was just a short time ago the biggest scandal in this country's history is now just a series of scandals unraveling our very fabric. We are no more, and we all know there is no saving this. We must, absolutely must, start anew.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 12, 2021 12:54 PM (sVtYq)

204 A school board in TEXAS had a retired Army Captain and a minister arrested on charges of, "disorderly conduct with intent to disrupt a meeting."

The veteran told the board it was illegal for them to pass a tax increase and the minister brought forward evidence the board helped cover up an alleged assault by the school superintendent against his mistress.

https://bit.ly/3n9tflE
Posted by: bonhomme at November 12, 2021 12:50 PM (sG4Hj)

Coming soon to an HOA near you!

Posted by: Count de Monet, Unvaccinated Kulak-American at November 12, 2021 12:55 PM (4I/2K)

205 Also note that Ness's only comment after losing his job about the Cleveland Torso Murder was an enigmatic "That case has been solved."

Posted by: AmericanHawkman at November 12, 2021 12:55 PM (VfMhS)

206 I'd be more than happy to attend a Congressional Committee Meeting about this and stonewall them to their faces on camera.

Posted by: Gerrick Marland at November 12, 2021 12:55 PM (YU505)

207 @145...taking the national counterintelligence mission away from FBI is an ida worth considering.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 12, 2021 12:55 PM (V8JPv)

208 182 >>>ashley biden reported the theft of her diary and some other personal things to the local PD and now it's become literally a federal case


Funny how Hunter's laptop never became a federal case. At least not one they wanted to investigate.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2021 12:53 PM (bkUtD)

And Project Veritas stole it? Um, no.
The published it? Um, no.
They tried to distribute it? Um, no.
So what's the point of raiding them FIB? Oh yeah, they're political enemies! So it's okay then, right?

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 12, 2021 12:55 PM (ynpvh)

209 199 I wouldn't be surprised if there were FBI agents posting on this site weeks before the January 6 incident.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2021 12:54 PM (NpAcC)

Raimondo and Kurt.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 12, 2021 12:55 PM (ekXJa)

210 The FBI launched a political raid on Project Veritas' offices, and the personal homes of James O'Keefe and his reporters -- with battering rams at the ready -- and then not only seized his private, confidential, protected communications with counsel, but then immediately leaked them to the corporation they are politically allied with whom James O'Keefe is suing.
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This is a notable escalation. They did this before with Trump, when they raided Cohen and stole confidential privileged information and then doled it out to the press.

The key difference, though, is the level of import of the person. Trump was a legit big shot. He was the biggest of big shots. O'Keefe ain't nobody, but he's at nothing like the same level. They're moving these tactics down-market, and that's important.

They'll use it against you, too. If they haven't already.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2021 12:55 PM (DU+/6)

211 Love the shootout in the train station.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 12, 2021 12:41 PM (V6f9+)

The lady and the baby carriage just annoys the hell out of me.

Posted by: BignJames at November 12, 2021 12:56 PM (AwYPR)

212 194 To Levin's credit he dumped that turd off his guest list.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at November 12, 2021 12:54 PM (g5I2H)


He did a mea culpa on Trump and turned into one of his staunchest defenders soon after Sessionzzz did the recusal.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 12:56 PM (s2VJv)

213 Little known fact about Ness: He later became the police commissioner ("Public Safety Officer," I think) in Cleveland at the time of the serial killer case the Torso Murderer. The guy was never caught as far as I know. Ness's cops did everything they could do in 1948 or whatever, without today's forensics and databases. (Which just makes the story more interesting to me.)
Posted by: Diana Ross at November 12, 2021 12:53 PM (txdEq)

There's a great graphic novel about this, 'Torso' by Brian Michael Bendis, back when he was a real writer.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 12, 2021 12:56 PM (V6f9+)

214 Banana republics to US Government: "Dude, have some dignity!"

Posted by: lazlong at November 12, 2021 12:56 PM (7DUUu)

215 That's a great flick. Maybe I'll watch it this weekend. Why can't they make films like that anymore.

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at November 12, 2021 12:56 PM (sX1BW)

216 189 "A court has ordered the FBI to stop extracting data from James O'Keefe's phones."

Like it's some kind of medieval machine they can turn off. RYFKM?

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 12, 2021 12:53 PM (OssQ4)

They'll stop extracting, because the extraction is done. It's like prohibiting someone from killing a cow when it's already BBQ.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 12, 2021 12:56 PM (ynpvh)

217 209 199 I wouldn't be surprised if there were FBI agents posting on this site weeks before the January 6 incident.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2021 12:54 PM (NpAcC)

Raimondo and Kurt.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 12, 2021 12:55 PM (ekXJa)


Nah. If that were the case, they'd be the loudest ones protesting the steal and urging violence. As it is, they're braindead lefties.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 12:57 PM (s2VJv)

218 Cardiologist Who Said He 'Won't Cry at Funeral' For "Selfish" Unvaccinated People Suddenly Dies in His Sleep 2 Weeks After 3rd Covid Jab

https://tinyurl.com/dsfrhp7h

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at November 12, 2021 12:37 PM (MkuC5)

*taps mic*

is this thing on?

Posted by: karma at November 12, 2021 12:57 PM (8D42x)

219 181 In addition to Joey showering with young Ashley, she talks about Jill being emotionally distant. Jill knew everything Joe was doing, and just pretended everything was fine.

So moral and decent, right? Trash family.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2021 12:53 PM (ptqGC)


Well she cheated on her husband and broke up her marriage to tie her coattails to Joe. So of course she's going to ignore it. Just like Hillary ignoring Bill's affairs until they had the potential to derail that climbing of the ladder.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 12, 2021 12:57 PM (G2zl5)

220 >>>disagree with this point Ace, give the policing powers legitimately needed to the US marshals and drop the rest.



Of all the federal organizations I interact with, the Marshals are probably the best. They're still arrogant and condescending, but they're galactically better than the FBI

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2021 12:57 PM (bkUtD)

221 A couple of things I need to get off my chest while on Day 6 of my "mandatory" 10 day WuFlu quarantine period (and yes, I was fully "vaccinated" with the non-vaccine mRNA potion concocted by Pfizer in late May).....

A Rand Paul-esque conservative could make eliminating the FBI a central plank of their campaign and win in many congressional districts across the country. This needs to happen. It would be a galvanizing issue and put even more distance between actual conservatives and weasels with a R on their lapel.
When Kyle Rittenhouse is acquitted, he IMMEDIATELY needs to sue the fuck currently soiling the WH for an ungodly sum of money. Of course, FJB won't be the only target of this suit, as too many Marxists to name also libel/slandered him as a white supremacist.
2022 is the year to primary RINOS and REFUSE to vote for them in the general if the filth survives their respective primary challenge. For ex., conservative's in Alaska have absolutely no excuse to vote for Lisa Murkowski. None!
And finally, Paul Mirengoff over at Powerline is a loathsome POS.
Rant off.

Posted by: PacosMojo at November 12, 2021 12:57 PM (1Fv0G)

222 I got that pleasure for the same thing in 2012. Not a coincidence at all. Wound up with them paying $3600ish, but the real point was making our lives miserable for 6 months. The accountant wound up costing a lot more than that.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed

The IRS audited all of our businesses. We paid the fines to make it go away. Nice business you have there. It was a shakedown if I ever saw one. Only one person fought and won. It cost more in attorney and accountant fees than if they hadn't fought. The agent in charge was a total bitch.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 12, 2021 12:57 PM (gyRx0)

223 People need to stop watching that fuckhead Hannity until he gets the message to stop fluffing the FIB.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at November 12, 2021 12:50 PM (g5I2H)


We can't even get "our side" to boycott Chik-Fil-A or stop watching sportsball. Hannity has nothing to worry about.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 12, 2021 12:57 PM (2JVJo)

224 The corruption of the agency goes back to the beginning. Everyone in the federal government ignoring the elephant in the room also goes back to the beginning. The public was presented with movies and TV shows about the heroic FBI. That a goggle-eyed homo megalomaniac who assigned hundreds of federal employees to curate blackmail files was in charge, was not disclosed.

They quit trying so hard to conceal what they are in recent years.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 12, 2021


***
Rex Stout was one of the first, at least in fiction, to show the FBI as *not* incorruptible or perfect in his '65 Nero Wolfe novel, The Doorbell Rang. He'd been on Hoover's hit list since WWII, possibly because he was not an ultra-righty by Hoover's standards. The novel really put a target on his back. But Stout kept on living, and publishing good stuff, for another 9 years.

Posted by: Diana Ross at November 12, 2021 12:57 PM (txdEq)

225 Little brothers everywhere are shitting their pants. Sis is gonna call the Eff bee eye.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2021 12:57 PM (0ryfU)

226 Even if I try to "think" like a commie fuck, I can't see the offense.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 12, 2021 12:54 PM (sG4Hj)


You can't say shit like "chinese food" any longer, and Asian food is just as triggering apparently if not more so. That, and then drawing parallels to everything coming from china - and also reminding people of Biden's dismal policies. So really, just an all around trigger.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 12, 2021 12:58 PM (wAnMi)

227 Trump complying with idiotic, destructive, lawless rogue "courts" usurping his plenary national security authority on admission to the country = authoritarian!

The collapsed garbage institutions violating central laws and protections to harass Trump and any other important political opponents = crickets

And recall - this has been going on for years. Remember the violation of client privilege WRT Trump and his pathetic former lawyer, Cohen. Also me with a resounding, thunderous silence.

If you can effectively attack harass and ruin an incoming national security advisor with a spotless record who's done nothing wrong, based on literally nothing (to include not being able to "find" the notes on which the whole laughable farce is "based") - with impunity - worse, with the histrionic lawless outrageous connivance of a "court" - you're not in the America of the previous entire history any longer.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 12, 2021 12:58 PM (OTzUX)

228 stop harvesting data from the phone ... "sure boss, whatever you say, we have ten complete images of every detail, so we will stop now. We sure want to obey the judges' orders. giggle giggle snort"

It's like telling their wet work men ... "I order you to stop killing Seth Rich" two days after the fact. "Sure thing boss, we will comply, cuz we are law abiding like that".

Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2021 12:59 PM (Cus5s)

229 222 I got that pleasure for the same thing in 2012. Not a coincidence at all. Wound up with them paying $3600ish, but the real point was making our lives miserable for 6 months. The accountant wound up costing a lot more than that.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed

The IRS audited all of our businesses. We paid the fines to make it go away. Nice business you have there. It was a shakedown if I ever saw one. Only one person fought and won. It cost more in attorney and accountant fees than if they hadn't fought. The agent in charge was a total bitch.
Posted by: CaliGirl at November 12, 2021 12:57 PM (gyRx0)


Considering the direction and speed we are going, this is where vigilantism happens. Not that I endorse that in any way, shape or form.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 12:59 PM (s2VJv)

230 193 > I just saw a headline that the Judge is now to be taken down because of Asian Food jokes.

Did you hear the joke? It wasn't even a stereotype or anything like that. He just said he hoped the food wasn't stuck on a ship out by long beach.

Even if I try to "think" like a commie fuck, I can't see the offense.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 12, 2021 12:54 PM (sG4Hj)

Why leave it at dissin' Asians? Food from all over the world comes through those ports, like bananas from South America. So his remark was racist to Asians, Latinx's, and other minority peoples that ship to the US. /sarc

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 12, 2021 12:59 PM (ynpvh)

231 This cannot go on much longer.

That's what ainwas thinking. 25 years ago.

There's an aphorism, it applies to applies to economics, but it obviously has a corrolary in law and justice that goes something like "The FED (reserve) can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent."

So yeah. This can go on a lot longer than one might expect.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 12, 2021 12:59 PM (aENAX)

232 Defund the FBI.
Disband it.
Start a new agency.

++++
This doesn't go nearly too far enough. FBI? Feh. All of them. Every single federal LE and intelligence agency. All of them. Burn them to the ground and salt the earth behind them. Make four new agencies: federal interstate law enforcement, domestic intelligence, foreign intelligence, and independent internal affairs for all three. Foreign intelligence has the longest leash, followed by domestic intelligence, followed by law enforcement. The IA agency must not be staffed with anyone who has worked in any of the three agencies they regulate in the past ten years. At least 1/3 of the the IA division must be staffed from state or local governments. At least half of the IA division must be staffed from the private sector. The maximum tenure at IA is seven years.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2021 12:59 PM (DU+/6)

233 Feral Burrow of Intimidation

Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at November 12, 2021 12:59 PM (l+MWU)

234 PacosMojo the only use I have for Powerline is memes on Saturday morning. That's all it's good for.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 12, 2021 12:59 PM (OssQ4)

235 My only big problem with The Untouchables was how they handled Frank Nitti. The literary license to kill him has always bothered me.

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at November 12, 2021 12:59 PM (sX1BW)

236 Fuck "America."
Some rich people scribbled some shit on a napkin...called it "law," a couple of centuries ago....admitting that if they let people who weren't rich vote, that their privileged status would be at risk....and now centuries later....people think they have the right to enslave you for taxes or put on costumes and shoot you for not buying into their extortion. F..k them in their a$$. For real.

Posted by: Hold My Montrachet at November 12, 2021 01:00 PM (juH8z)

237 Even if I try to "think" like a commie fuck, I can't see the offense.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 12, 2021 12:54 PM


I think your problem I see.

Do or do not; there is no try.

Posted by: Moron Yoda at November 12, 2021 01:00 PM (a3Q+t)

238 >>>235 My only big problem with The Untouchables was how they handled Frank Nitti. The literary license to kill him has always bothered me.

He's in the car.

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2021 01:00 PM (0G13K)

239 So moral and decent, right? Trash family.

--

In a town (DC) filled with trash people, the Bidens stand out. They are garbage. Absolute sick filth.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 12, 2021 01:00 PM (sVtYq)

240 Oh, crap, that quivering mound of lard, Kraus, just claimed that Rosenbaum was chasing Kyle to protect the crowd. This is insane.

Posted by: EveR at November 12, 2021 01:00 PM (MUpk6)

241 The diary from National File is here from last October.
https://tinyurl.com/6nm89huj

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at November 12, 2021 01:00 PM (UHVv4)

242 Little known fact about Ness: He later became the police commissioner ("Public Safety Officer," I think) in Cleveland at the time of the serial killer case the Torso Murderer. The guy was never caught as far as I know. Ness's cops did everything they could do in 1948 or whatever, without today's forensics and databases. (Which just makes the story more interesting to me.)
Posted by: Diana Ross at November 12, 2021 12:53 PM (txdEq)


A guy in my book group, Jim Badal (MP4 has met him) wrote at least one book about the case. He's pretty sure some psycho from a hoity toity local family did them. Fortunately for the perp he mostly killed people nobody cared much about.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at November 12, 2021 01:00 PM (g5I2H)

243 It is my understanding re: recording.

Did the person have reason to believe in privacy of conversation.

If we're sitting at the bar and I record you, you had no expectation of privacy. If we're meeting in a parking lot and just the two of us, then you did.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at November 12, 2021 01:00 PM (NW9xb)

244 This cannot go on much longer.

We keep saying that, yet it does. I suppose there will be a denouement at some point but IMO the damage has been irreparable.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 12, 2021 12:37 PM (Xrfse)

Well, it won't happen instantaneously.

Posted by: CppThis at November 12, 2021 12:53 PM

I think the issue is what is the time frame of "much longer". Personally, I think this is going to go on for the rest of my lifetime (I'm 45, avg lifespan of 78 (?) means that this will go on another 30+ years).

I look around and see the monstrous network of radical groups the left has which influence and control countries across the world, all the institutions in this country and the world that the left controls and the utter lack of logical and rational thinking that the majority of people have to where the can see through the bullshit added to the lack of will to do anything about the bullshit when they see it... and I'm not confident we'll see push-back that matters anytime soon. Hell, a majority of people are not even pushing back against mandatory clot shots for children.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 12, 2021 01:00 PM (Do5/p)

245 @178

>>FBI get the goods on them, to shut them down and jail as many as possible.

There are no goods to get but they can and will try to bang them up on process crimes, like lying to investigators.

Which seems to be their main tool in their crooked tool chest.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 12, 2021 01:00 PM (iaAVH)

246 >>>A Rand Paul-esque conservative could make eliminating the FBI a central plank of their campaign and win in many congressional districts across the country. This needs to happen. It would be a galvanizing issue and put even more distance between actual conservatives and weasels with a R on their lapel.


Sadly, Paul is probably the only GOPer who would do this. I cannot imagine any other Republican doing this, and worse, actually following through.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2021 01:00 PM (bkUtD)

247 "Excellent advice.

Though I'm pretty sure I can predict the entire list."

How about Megan Kelly? She's been trying to work her way back into "true conservative" grift-o-sphere like Shapiro and friends. I don't trust that bitch for a second.

Posted by: Grimmy at November 12, 2021 01:01 PM (JCZqz)

248 221 For ex., conservative's in Alaska have absolutely no excuse to vote for Lisa Murkowski. None!
And finally, Paul Mirengoff over at Powerline is a loathsome POS.
Rant off.
Posted by: PacosMojo at November 12, 2021 12:57 PM (1Fv0G)


FYI she just announced she is running for re-election - or to steal the nomination - next year.

That filthy slag needs to be ejected.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 01:01 PM (s2VJv)

249 This skinny, leggy brunette has no confidence in the judicial or police systems or any other facet of Official America in any respect:
https://is.gd/svD2tS

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2021 01:01 PM (DU+/6)

250 Where do the boycotts end? When even Hornaday is going in on the leftist authoritarianism. Soon we sit in a dark room watching paint dry.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2021 01:01 PM (0ryfU)

251 246
Sadly, Paul is probably the only GOPer who would do this. I cannot imagine any other Republican doing this, and worse, actually following through.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2021 01:00 PM (bkUtD)


The rot is ugly, dark and deep . . .

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 01:01 PM (s2VJv)

252 >>>235 My only big problem with The Untouchables was how they handled Frank Nitti. The literary license to kill him has always bothered me.

He's in the car.

Posted by: ace

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??? What car?

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at November 12, 2021 01:01 PM (sX1BW)

253 181 In addition to Joey showering with young Ashley, she talks about Jill being emotionally distant. Jill knew everything Joe was doing, and just pretended everything was fine.

So moral and decent, right? Trash family.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2021 12:53 PM (ptqGC)


I don't know the divorce laws of Delaware. If Jill divorced Joe, she may have had to live on a non-DOCTOR OF EDUCATION teacher's salary. Or found a new sugar daddy. However, if she left Joe, I believe Joe would have told her he could and would make her future life hell, using his Dem mob and union goon contacts.

Posted by: Gref at November 12, 2021 01:01 PM (AMIL/)

254 210 The FBI launched a political raid on Project Veritas' offices, and the personal homes of James O'Keefe and his reporters -- with battering rams at the ready -- and then not only seized his private, confidential, protected communications with counsel, but then immediately leaked them to the corporation they are politically allied with whom James O'Keefe is suing.
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This is a notable escalation. They did this before with Trump, when they raided Cohen and stole confidential privileged information and then doled it out to the press.

The key difference, though, is the level of import of the person. Trump was a legit big shot. He was the biggest of big shots. O'Keefe ain't nobody, but he's at nothing like the same level. They're moving these tactics down-market, and that's important.

They'll use it against you, too. If they haven't already.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2021 12:55 PM (DU+/6)

Not quite. He's gone after the abortion industry, politicians, the MSM. He's made quite a few of the heavies on the left very, very upset.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 12, 2021 01:01 PM (ynpvh)

255 I just didn't see much swamp draining when Trump had the ability to do so.

Posted by: Blago at November 12, 2021 01:01 PM (usqGO)

256 I...........I respect and appreciate the FBI agents on the ground. This is all coming from just a few FBI agents at the top./////////////SARC.

The entire corrupt agency should be scrapped. I'll take my chances with terrorists. These Jack booted, election rigging assholes need a vigorous scrubbing from the basement to the floor that doesn't have a button for it in the elevator.

Posted by: Drider at November 12, 2021 01:02 PM (R/UH9)

257 Little known fact about Ness: He later became the police commissioner ("Public Safety Officer," I think) in Cleveland at the time of the serial killer case the Torso Murderer. The guy was never caught as far as I know.

"The Mad Butcher of Kingsbury Run," and no, he was never caught. Here's a good book on the case:

https://tinyurl.com/fmk9ssw7

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 12, 2021 01:02 PM (2JVJo)

258 well, whew. the rittenhouse defense is pointing out the lefthanded nature of the idiot piece of evidence littlefinger's trying to use.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 12, 2021 01:02 PM (ZZK0E)

259 >Real quick. That last video of the people stealing. They were only stealing from what I could tell laundry detergent. Wtf were they making with it.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM (GjUEo)

Tide is like ghetto gold. Shit commands a high price on the gray market.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 12, 2021 01:02 PM (cSs/W)

260 Hold My Montrachet

Lolwut

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2021 01:02 PM (0ryfU)

261 FYI she just announced she is running for re-election - or to steal the nomination - next year.

That filthy slag needs to be ejected.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

She'll pull her "write in" campaign stunt again if she loses the primary.

I would be okay letting a Dem take the seat if that was the only option, she's not even playing the game anymore.

Posted by: Blago at November 12, 2021 01:03 PM (usqGO)

262 remember when the fbi had to let guilty as sin terrorist Bill Ayers go free as a bird because they broke the rules on purpose?

Posted by: x at November 12, 2021 01:03 PM (oA+QO)

263 ugh they never caught the torso killer? I guess that's why I don't know his name, huh?

Reading around this period, I took note of a killer, I think maybe connected to the Kansas City mob, who was BOTH a mob hitman AND a serial killer. I mean, all hitmen can be said to be "serial killers" in a way, but I mean he was also a ritual pleasure killer in addition to his work as pro killer.

It's weird, I always thought those would not go together for some reason, but really, they should go together more often.

As trivia, Red Grant in From Russia With Love was a combination serial killer and paid hitman.

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2021 01:03 PM (0G13K)

264 The Granada TV Holmes had mined pretty much all of the best Holmes stories in the first four series. The writing went downhill, as well. Plus, Jeremy Brett is so obviously unwell during the last series that I can't look at it again.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at November 12, 2021 01:03 PM (AlkyK)

265 "This cannot go on much longer." Au contraire, it can go on forever. Politics and especially fascism operate like Newton's laws: they will go on forever unless something stops them. I see nothing that will stop the direction this country is headed short of armed revolution.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 12, 2021 01:04 PM (iFTx/)

266 260 Hold My Montrachet

Lolwut
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2021 01:02 PM (0ryfU)
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Reading escape you?.
Read the Declaration of Independence. It's all in there.... The consent part... Nobody agreed to be ruled by you c..ksucker.

Posted by: Hold My Montrachet at November 12, 2021 01:04 PM (juH8z)

267 I can't improve on Ace's rant. Not a republic anymore, just pure Stalinistic tactics by the govt.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 12, 2021 01:04 PM (r5BVk)

268 The lady and the baby carriage just annoys the hell out of me.
Posted by: BignJames at November 12, 2021 12:56 PM


The Naked Gun Parody was great.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 12, 2021 01:04 PM (m+jkK)

269 I used to be a true believer police defender. Now I fear what's coming next.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 12, 2021 01:04 PM (FVME7)

270 WHERE IS OUR MILITARY????

Posted by: Miss Issippi at November 12, 2021 01:04 PM (sI15f)

271 Yeah, I've been in Buena Vista a few times and driven up to Leadville from there.

Long ago I spent an incredible summer in that vicinity, camping, exploring and fishing. Will never forget that experience.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 12, 2021 01:04 PM (Xrfse)

272 Not quite. He's gone after the abortion industry, politicians, the MSM. He's made quite a few of the heavies on the left very, very upset.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 12, 2021 01:01 PM (ynpvh)
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Oh, sure. He's not nobody, not by a damn sight. But he's small change as compared to the last guy they did this to so publicly. O'Keefe has been largely reach-reduced anyway. The "legitimate" (HA) press already stopped covering him, his social media reach is reduced by artificial means, etc. He is a fairly small-scale target all things considered, and they did it anyway.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2021 01:05 PM (DU+/6)

273 >>>??? What car?


it's what Ness says in the movie after he throws Nitti from the roof of the federal courthouse and Nitti lands inside a car.

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2021 01:05 PM (0G13K)

274 "O'Keefe ain't nobody, but he's at nothing like the same level. They're moving these tactics down-market, and that's important."

Besides helping the Times, they also want other true investigative reporters to know the FBI will terrorized them if they go against the criminal Junta of the DeepState as it makes its move to overthrow America the Land of Liberty.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2021 01:05 PM (Cus5s)

275 263 As trivia, Red Grant in From Russia With Love was a combination serial killer and paid hitman.
Posted by: ace at November 12, 2021 01:03 PM (0G13K)


Look up the name Richard Kuklinski. That is nightmare fuel.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 01:05 PM (s2VJv)

276 In a way, it's this moral flexibility in a moral crusader that I ultimately find abrasive.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 12, 2021 12:41 PM (LvTSG)
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Makes Lawful Neutral a very dangerous alignment since those people will do *exactly* what is allowed *within the law*. When the law changes, they now have permission to act differently than they did before.
Posted by: "Perfessor" Squirrel at November 12, 2021 12:44 PM (YIVH2)

Well, Ness' crusade was not against the Demon Rum, per se. He was crusading against untaxed alcohol, and the criminals who sold it. He was a lawman, not a moral scold.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2021 01:05 PM (P3gRi)

277 How many FBI tv shows are there right now?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 12, 2021 01:05 PM (csEWM)

278 222 I got that pleasure for the same thing in 2012. Not a coincidence at all. Wound up with them paying $3600ish, but the real point was making our lives miserable for 6 months. The accountant wound up costing a lot more than that.
Posted by: clutch cargo - processed

The IRS audited all of our businesses. We paid the fines to make it go away. Nice business you have there. It was a shakedown if I ever saw one. Only one person fought and won. It cost more in attorney and accountant fees than if they hadn't fought. The agent in charge was a total bitch.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 12, 2021 12:57 PM (gyRx0)

Too bad that one person couldn't recoup accounting and attorneys' fees from the IRS over that. With the goverment, if you win, it's always a pyrrhic victory.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 12, 2021 01:05 PM (ynpvh)

279 This skinny, leggy brunette has no confidence in the judicial or police systems or any other facet of Official America in any respect:
https://is.gd/svD2tS
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2021 01:01 PM (DU+/6)


Those legs go on and on like a desert highway

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 12, 2021 01:05 PM (wAnMi)

280 I think the next Republican Presidential campaign needs to campaign on disbanding the FBI.

What has that agency even done the US, ever?

It's been a good 50 years of bullshit, same with the CIA.

Posted by: Blago at November 12, 2021 01:05 PM (usqGO)

281 245 @178

>>FBI get the goods on them, to shut them down and jail as many as possible.

There are no goods to get but they can and will try to bang them up on process crimes, like lying to investigators.

Which seems to be their main tool in their crooked tool chest.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 12, 2021 01:00 PM (iaAVH)


Yes.

Posted by: Gref at November 12, 2021 01:06 PM (AMIL/)

282 Besides helping the Times, they also want other true investigative reporters to know the FBI will terrorized them if they go against the criminal Junta of the DeepState as it makes its move to overthrow America the Land of Liberty.
Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2021 01:05 PM (Cus5s)
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Right. That's down-market. You used to have to be Trump and going after the top line of government. Now you'll get that treatment if you annoy a propaganda organ.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2021 01:06 PM (DU+/6)

283 I keep hearing things like "this can't last", and "we are nearing the tipping point" and I want to agree, but the evidence does not support such a thing. The evidence supports retreat and distance yourself from the enemy, then retreat as the enemy advances. No defense, no counter attack.

Posted by: Clear Eyed Killer at November 12, 2021 01:06 PM (ln5wD)

284 So you're telling me that the FBI is corrupt?

What next....millions of home COVID tests recalled for false positives?

Oh....wait.


https://tinyurl.com/yf553pnu

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice. Asymptomatic raycist at November 12, 2021 01:06 PM (3D/fK)

285 Never answer the door.

Be ready.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at November 12, 2021 01:06 PM (rDgjh)

286 274 "O'Keefe ain't nobody, but he's at nothing like the same level. They're moving these tactics down-market, and that's important."

Besides helping the Times, they also want other true investigative reporters to know the FBI will terrorized them if they go against the criminal Junta of the DeepState as it makes its move to overthrow America the Land of Liberty.
Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2021 01:05 PM (Cus5s)


Atkisson, Logan, Hemingway et al are next in line.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 01:06 PM (s2VJv)

287 JJ, was that the guy HBO had a documentary about? I saw that, what a fascinating documentary.

Posted by: ace at November 12, 2021 01:06 PM (0G13K)

288 Is it a "massive, massive scandal" if no major media outlet covers it and no Republican politician makes an issue of it? I can just about guarantee my state's two prissy GOPers won't say a word. God forbid they be sullied by any mention or defense of James O'Keefe -- even obliquely.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 12, 2021 01:06 PM (H8QX8)

289 >>>??? What car?


it's what Ness says in the movie after he throws Nitti from the roof of the federal courthouse and Nitti lands inside a car.

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Right. Ha ha. Of all the reaches in that movie, that is the only one that bothers me.

Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at November 12, 2021 01:06 PM (sX1BW)

290 Cardiologist Who Said He 'Won't Cry at Funeral' For "Selfish" Unvaccinated People Suddenly Dies in His Sleep 2 Weeks After 3rd Covid Jab

https://tinyurl.com/dsfrhp7h

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at November 12, 2021 12:37 PM (MkuC5)

Well then..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdYPxFMhEkE

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 12, 2021 01:07 PM (VwHCD)

291 Rex Stout was one of the first, at least in fiction, to show the FBI as *not* incorruptible or perfect in his '65 Nero Wolfe novel, The Doorbell Rang. He'd been on Hoover's hit list since WWII, possibly because he was not an ultra-righty by Hoover's standards. The novel really put a target on his back. But Stout kept on living, and publishing good stuff, for another 9 years.
Posted by: Diana Ross at November 12, 2021 12:57 PM (txdEq)

Stout also gave visibility to a FBI whistleblower's book 'The FBI nobody knows', which I bought and read.

The scandal of the FBI back then seemed to be around the cult of personality around J. Edgar and demanding FBI agents be firm anti-communists....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 12, 2021 01:07 PM (V6f9+)

292 Trump fucked up.

He trusted Chris Wray.

Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at November 12, 2021 01:07 PM (rDgjh)

293 276 Well, Ness' crusade was not against the Demon Rum, per se. He was crusading against untaxed alcohol, and the criminals who sold it. He was a lawman, not a moral scold.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2021 01:05 PM (P3gRi)

============

He was a man willing to do whatever necessary in the service of the federal government (the law) whether moral or immoral.

He'd have tracked down Anne Frank.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 12, 2021 01:07 PM (LvTSG)

294 Real quick. That last video of the people stealing. They were only stealing from what I could tell laundry detergent. Wtf were they making with it.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM (GjUEo)


Detergent is used as a form of currency. It can be traded, subdivided, resold, or used, and it's not illegal to be holding it, nor can it be tracked.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at November 12, 2021 01:07 PM (wmDcS)

295 The FBI is the armed wing of the democrat party.

For over a decade, they have abandoned the law, and acted like mob enforcers to harass and hurt those who are opponents of democrats, while refusing to investigate democrats. This is easily provable.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 12, 2021 01:07 PM (5kI0z)

296 231 This cannot go on much longer.

That's what ainwas thinking. 25 years ago.

There's an aphorism, it applies to applies to economics, but it obviously has a corrolary in law and justice that goes something like "The FED (reserve) can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent."

So yeah. This can go on a lot longer than one might expect.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 12, 2021 12:59 PM (aENAX)

Fed Reserve New Motto: "To Infinity and Beyond!"

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 12, 2021 01:07 PM (ynpvh)

297 It is my understanding re: recording.

Did the person have reason to believe in privacy of conversation.

If we're sitting at the bar and I record you, you had no expectation of privacy. If we're meeting in a parking lot and just the two of us, then you did.
Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal


Like self defense, recording conversations are state dependent in regards to law. In Texas, only one party has to be aware of the recording. I don't have a legal duuty to advise you I'm taping the conversation.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2021 01:08 PM (OCTRt)

298 Narrator: No one in the FBI will suffer consequence.

Posted by: blaster at November 12, 2021 01:08 PM (mbFEM)

299 Anarchy then more anarchy then consolidations to larger tribes because everybody is terrified of the biggest body count since Bay Watch.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at November 12, 2021 01:08 PM (Cmpjp)

300 296
Fed Reserve New Motto: "To Infinity and Beyond!"
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 12, 2021 01:07 PM (ynpvh)


"Watch out for that - - tree"

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 01:08 PM (s2VJv)

301 NO! DO NOT DISBAND THE FBI!

Keep it together, and assign it new duties. I suggest they be assigned finding the 5,000 Native American and Eskimo Women and Children that disappear every year. It is work that should be done. And it will keep the damned FBI FAR from Washington DC. Move their HQ to some Indian Reservation in Texas or California.

You want to keep the FBI together. You do not want to fire them, and then have the FBI agents infect local, state, and federal law enforcement with their corrupt, criminal practices.

Posted by: rd at November 12, 2021 01:08 PM (Z32m1)

302 People need to stop watching that fuckhead Hannity until he gets the message to stop fluffing the FIB.
Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at November 12, 2021 12:50 PM (g5I2H)

We can't even get "our side" to boycott Chik-Fil-A or stop watching sportsball. Hannity has nothing to worry about.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing

Oh, I dunno about that. Most folks in my circle see Hannity for the dumbass he is. If I have to hear his "I was a roofer and I bussed tables and my mom worked at a prison so that means 99.999% of the fbi are good and hardworking and I am really really close friends with Clinton people!" schtick again Ill know Ive died and gone to hell.

Posted by: Theskepticalschnauzer aka Lonebadger at November 12, 2021 01:08 PM (h+7ej)

303 263 ugh they never caught the torso killer? I guess that's why I don't know his name, huh?

Reading around this period, I took note of a killer, I think maybe connected to the Kansas City mob, who was BOTH a mob hitman AND a serial killer. I mean, all hitmen can be said to be "serial killers" in a way, but I mean he was also a ritual pleasure killer in addition to his work as pro killer.
It's weird, I always thought those would not go together for some reason, but really, they should go together more often.
As trivia, Red Grant in From Russia With Love was a combination serial killer and paid hitman.
Posted by: ace at November 12, 2021 01:03 PM (0G13K

I kind of wonder how many uncaught serial killers are actually caught. Or like an unsolved murder. It's just that the guy that did it is already in jail because he was caught doing something else or for the murder of someone else. You know if has certainly happened. But you can never actually know.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 12, 2021 01:09 PM (G2zl5)

304 Knock, knock

We come not seeking evidence, but to destroy it!

Posted by: FBI at November 12, 2021 01:09 PM (PPQdm)

305 270.....

"Our military's" leadership is every bit as rotten as any three letter federal agency. The only thing that gives me a glimmer of hope concerning the military is the rank and file truly are ideologically diverse. Such diversity is absent in any other federal department or agency.

Posted by: PacosMojo at November 12, 2021 01:09 PM (1Fv0G)

306 Memba when the SDNY violated attorney-client privilege so they could go after Trump? And we were all like how can they do this this is not America!

And now we are here.

Posted by: blaster at November 12, 2021 01:09 PM (mbFEM)

307 Update your style books!

Libs of Tik Tok
@libsoftiktok
This non-binary assistant professor at Old Dominion University is trying to normalize the term MAP (Minor Attracted Persons)

"Walker contends that it's important to use a 'less stigmatizing' term to describe those who wish to have sex with children, not using the term pedophile but instead their preferred term."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 12, 2021 01:09 PM (FVME7)

308 The entire corrupt agency should be scrapped. I'll take my chances with terrorists. These Jack booted, election rigging assholes need a vigorous scrubbing from the basement to the floor that doesn't have a button for it in the elevator.
Posted by: Drider at November 12, 2021 01:02 PM (R/UH9

In 4 short years, the FBI has demolished every semblance of their reputation. I think that's even faster than the MFM destroyed themselves.

Posted by: LASue at November 12, 2021 01:09 PM (Ed8Zd)

309 remember when the fbi had to let guilty as sin terrorist Bill Ayers go free as a bird because they broke the rules on purpose?
Posted by: x at November 12, 2021 01:03 PM (oA+QO)


Mark Felt, who was Watergate's Deep Throat, planting ideas in Woodward and Fat Fuck's tiny brains. Nothing suspicious about those events...

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at November 12, 2021 01:09 PM (g5I2H)

310 Trump was not the first time the FBI broke privilege.

It was merely the first time they felt safe admitting it.

Posted by: Lrrr at November 12, 2021 01:09 PM (jIL4c)

311 @LawSelfDefense 41s

Judge: My decision will be to submit the provocation instruction, and defense can argue the lack of instruction.

Well, that's too bad.

======

*facepalm*

Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2021 01:09 PM (cF8AT)

312 287 JJ, was that the guy HBO had a documentary about? I saw that, what a fascinating documentary.
Posted by: ace at November 12, 2021 01:06 PM (0G13K)


Yes. Truly psycho killer who worked for the Roy DeMeo crew. I used to live a few blocks from the Gemini Lounge in Flatbush where they killed and dismembered people and buried the remains in the Fountain Avenue dump.

Horrid.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 01:10 PM (s2VJv)

313 Pay attention to so called conservatives/patriots that don't report on James O'Keefe being targeted by the FBI

Exactly. If they don't cover this and are not upset about it, they are on the other side. Not just from O'Keefe and you, not just from conservatism, but from the constitution, from liberty, from ethics, from truth, and from goodness.

People who shrug at this aren't your opponent, they are your enemy, and the enemy of God and this nation.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2021 01:10 PM (KZzsI)

314 The Aristocrats!!

Posted by: Just the Punchline at November 12, 2021 01:10 PM (rdbLX)

315 He was a man willing to do whatever necessary in the service of the federal government (the law) whether moral or immoral.

He'd have tracked down Anne Frank.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,


We've seen a lot of that in our countrymen lately.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2021 01:10 PM (OCTRt)

316 Would that we had a judiciary that would go 'You received privileged and published information from the executive branch while in a lawsuit against the plaintiff? Summary judgement: YOU LOSE!'

Posted by: Legion of Boom at November 12, 2021 01:10 PM (WgWHG)

317 @Tami, what's it mean?

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2021 01:10 PM (V7qBU)

318 @libsoftiktok
This non-binary assistant professor at Old Dominion University is trying to normalize the term MAP (Minor Attracted Persons)

"Walker contends that it's important to use a 'less stigmatizing' term to describe those who wish to have sex with children, not using the term pedophile but instead their preferred term."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 12, 2021 01:09 PM (FVME7)
++++
MAP has been around for a while. It doesn't change what they are.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2021 01:10 PM (DU+/6)

319 255 I just didn't see much swamp draining when Trump had the ability to do so.

Posted by: Blago at November 12, 2021 01:01 PM (usqGO)

You assume Trump had the ability. The Deep State disagreed.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 12, 2021 01:11 PM (ynpvh)

320 A Thirties Ellery Queen novel starts sort of like that. A rich man's will disappears after his funeral. Ellery deduces that the will must have been stashed in the coffin of the deceased. They dig him up and find an *extra* body, a stranger, stuffed in there with the regulation corpse -- but no will. Thus begins the most complex plot the EQ cousins ever devised: The Greek Coffin Mystery.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM (txdEq)


Taking pages from the film, Mr Sardonicus.

Posted by: My name is Jose Jimanez at November 12, 2021 01:11 PM (Fs5vw)

321 267 I can't improve on Ace's rant. Not a republic anymore, just pure Stalinistic tactics by the govt.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 12, 2021 01:04 PM (r5BVk)

"This thing will get out of control and we'll be lucky, etc..."

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at November 12, 2021 01:11 PM (MkuC5)

322 Never answer the door.

Be ready.
Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too at November 12, 2021 01:06 PM (rDgjh)


I installed a security cam system that requires no subscription - but it will work with goolag/alexa et al if you're crazy enough to do that. Otherwise a stand-alone system. I love it. A 2 cam with home base is $245. Eufy, made by Anker. A home base can handle 4 cameras. Their interior cameras are simple stand alones in a variety of configurations. Recommended. High resolution, fast, configurable, 2-way audio, great GUI and again, no subscription/cloud garbage.

They even have a pet camera that spits out treats!

I'm loving getting the "ding-dong", and checking the camera to see what's going on. Like that #$%& feral cat. You can configure to just humans, or any motion - it's also got facial recognition.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 12, 2021 01:11 PM (wAnMi)

323 Atkisson, Logan, Hemingway et al are next in line.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 01:06 PM (s2VJv)


Didn't the FBI already attack Ms. Atkinson's Computers?

Posted by: rd at November 12, 2021 01:11 PM (Z32m1)

324 318 MAP has been around for a while. It doesn't change what they are.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2021 01:10 PM (DU+/6)

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Victims of society?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 12, 2021 01:11 PM (LvTSG)

325 The FBI? PFFFT! WE had snappy uniforms!

Posted by: Gestapo at November 12, 2021 01:11 PM (td+wa)

326 Remember, this is the same FBI that repeatedly claimed that evidence that harmed the left's narrative was "destroyed" only to be subsequently found. As I recall they claimed the Hunter Biden laptop evidence had been destroyed at one point.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2021 01:11 PM (KZzsI)

327 "This can't last"? I think it can and will. There is no corrective force operating even close to what is operating against us.

Posted by: Ordinary American at November 12, 2021 01:11 PM (H8QX8)

328 291 Rex Stout was one of the first, at least in fiction, to show the FBI as *not* incorruptible or perfect in his '65 Nero Wolfe novel, The Doorbell Rang. He'd been on Hoover's hit list since WWII, possibly because he was not an ultra-righty by Hoover's standards. The novel really put a target on his back. But Stout kept on living, and publishing good stuff, for another 9 years.
Posted by: Diana Ross at November 12, 2021 12:57 PM (txdEq)

Stout also gave visibility to a FBI whistleblower's book 'The FBI nobody knows', which I bought and read.

The scandal of the FBI back then seemed to be around the cult of personality around J. Edgar and demanding FBI agents be firm anti-communists....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, load and make ready at November 12, 2021 01:07 PM (V6f9+)

------------------------

The A&E adaptation of this from back around 2002 or so, with Maury Chaykin as Wolfe and Timothy Hutton as Goodwin, was some of the best TV I'd ever seen. Later episodes were great as well, but "The Doorbell Rang" was far and away the best.

Posted by: Pennsyltucky at November 12, 2021 01:11 PM (lNHqD)

329 Posted by: Lady in Black at November 12, 2021 12:54 PM

Well said, Lady in Black. If only we were hearing such eloquence and urgency from those with larger and more influential platforms to speak and take action.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 12, 2021 01:12 PM (Do5/p)

330 Judge: My decision will be to submit the provocation instruction, and defense can argue the lack of instruction.

Well, that's too bad.

======

*facepalm*
Posted by: Tami


What's that mean in English for those of us that aren't lawyers?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2021 01:12 PM (OCTRt)

331 323 Atkisson, Logan, Hemingway et al are next in line.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 01:06 PM (s2VJv)

Didn't the FBI already attack Ms. Atkinson's Computers?
Posted by: rd at November 12, 2021 01:11 PM (Z32m1)

Yes. But next time, they'll really mean it! (sarc but not really)

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 01:12 PM (s2VJv)

332 WHERE IS OUR MILITARY????
Posted by: Miss Issippi
___

In China's pocket.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 12, 2021 01:12 PM (pEF4Y)

333 Gestapo gonna gestapo

Posted by: Methos at November 12, 2021 01:12 PM (kOpft)

334 James O'Keefe et al. were raided under a federal search warrant procured by the FBI. Although O'Keefe was instructed to remain mum

We really are living in East Germany, aren't we?

You have your home and business raided by the secret police, and then you are told by the secret police that you can't publicly disclose that your home and business have been raided by the secret police.

This is the same thing that happened in the "John Doe" raids in Wisconsin eight years ago - the political cops kicked down the doors of several conservatives, and then informed the conservatives that they weren't allowed to publicly state that their doors had been kicked down.

Secret arrests are next.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 12, 2021 01:12 PM (I2/tG)

335 "This is straight-up fascism."

When Leftists do something authoritarian, it's not fascism.

Posted by: Monty James at November 12, 2021 01:12 PM (Zqz9o)

336 An important thing I have seen:

The people who hid Anne Frank in the attic were anti-government.

The people who turned her in were pro-government.

Posted by: blaster at November 12, 2021 01:12 PM (mbFEM)

337 This non-binary assistant professor at Old Dominion University is trying to normalize the term MAP (Minor Attracted Persons)

He looks and acts exactly as you would expect someone making this argument to. I guarantee a close examination of his computers and under his filthy stained mattress would reveal tons of cheese pizza, as the left used to love to call it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2021 01:13 PM (KZzsI)

338 Well, Ness' crusade was not against the Demon Rum, per se. He was crusading against untaxed alcohol, and the criminals who sold it. He was a lawman, not a moral scold.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2021 01:05 PM (P3gRi)


Ness used to hang out where the Great Lakes brewery now is.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Michael Byrd Murdered Ashli Babbitt at November 12, 2021 01:13 PM (g5I2H)

339 I suggest they be assigned finding the 5,000 Native American and Eskimo Women and Children that disappear every year.

Anybody in particular you're looking for or would you like to browse our weekly specials?

Posted by: FBI at November 12, 2021 01:13 PM (lDew/)

340 And civvies wonder why some of us vets have little desire to celebrate or recognize Veterans' Day.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 12, 2021 01:13 PM (pEF4Y)

341 We really are living in East Germany, aren't we? ...
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 12, 2021 01:12 PM (I2/tG)
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No. They could only have wild wet dreams about the level of information gathering and retention that our Stasi enjoys.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2021 01:13 PM (DU+/6)

342 This banana republic stuff is getting very old.

*

This banana republic stuff is just getting started.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 12, 2021 01:13 PM (XSoJN)

343 The FBI knows their own ship is sinking because of what Durham will reveal, so on their way down they're expending as much ammo as possible.

Posted by: Brisco County Sr at November 12, 2021 01:14 PM (DBPIP)

344 "This is straight-up fascism."

They're fortifying journalism.

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2021 01:14 PM (oBAbT)

345 When Leftists do something authoritarian, it's not fascism.

And in this case, its just tyrannical. Eventually I will get so tired of trying to clarify this that I will just surrender and watch the term be watered down into being meaningless but Fascism does not mean "mean stuff and oppression by the government".

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2021 01:14 PM (KZzsI)

346 What Common Tater and Clyde Shelton (and others) have just said.

On what is the comment "this can't go on much longer" based?

Nothing I can see or detect. "It" has become much worse, at breakneck speed, without pause, and without so much as a peep from the American people, or its "representatives". The reaction to the anomalous speed-bump of Trump was to quadruple the degradation and corruption - in all areas, not just guvamint.

1 billion quatloos to the person who can point to any evidence the collapse of the institutions does not mirror, very closely, the collapse of the civic culture and effective citizenship of the populace at large.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 12, 2021 01:14 PM (OTzUX)

347 Never answer the door.

Be ready.
Posted by: Been Lurking, but clearly been posting too

I've read that in the USSR people used to pack a small bag and leave it by the door so they could take it and have a few essentials when they got a midnight knock on the door.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 12, 2021 01:15 PM (FVME7)

348 Watching Rekieta law. Is the defense screwing up the trial for Kyle? I hope not! Do not fail at the 5 yard line guys when you are close to a touchdown.

Posted by: LizLem at November 12, 2021 01:15 PM (AvneP)

349 WHERE IS OUR MILITARY????
Posted by: Miss Issippi
___

In China's pocket.
Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return

I bet it stinks in there.

Posted by: JT at November 12, 2021 01:15 PM (arJlL)

350 344 "This is straight-up fascism."

They're fortifying journalism.
Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2021 01:14 PM (oBAbT)


Democracy Dies in Darkness is not just a slogan, but now government and media (BIRM) policy.

Orwellian for $29 trillion, Alex.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 01:15 PM (s2VJv)

351 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 12, 2021 01:15 PM (arJlL)

352 OT, that Saule Omarova sounds like a great foreigner to put in charge of our country's wealth. She's obviously very smart, knows everything, and has America's best interests at heart.
Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 12, 2021 12:49 PM (ZZK0E)

Biden is colluding with the Russians!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2021 01:15 PM (P3gRi)

353 I bet it stinks in there.
Posted by: JT
___

Milley doesn't mind.

Posted by: SMH while awaiting His return at November 12, 2021 01:16 PM (pEF4Y)

354 "Walker contends that it's important to use a 'less stigmatizing' term to describe those who wish to have sex with children, not using the term pedophile but instead their preferred term."

Too bad, they're pedophiles.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com. Not insurgents, counterrevolutionaries. at November 12, 2021 01:16 PM (SchxB)

355 And civvies wonder why some of us vets have little desire to celebrate or recognize Veterans' Day.

I understand, to some degree. I hesitated to say anything this year and didn't post as much as I used to, just because of the shame of what the US has become and what the military is becoming. I stopped flying the flag in 2012.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2021 01:16 PM (KZzsI)

356 330 Tami

Listening to this, I think the Judge is being overwhelmingly lenient to the Prosecution. Just depressing as hell.

Posted by: EveR at November 12, 2021 01:16 PM (MUpk6)

357 342 This banana republic stuff is getting very old. *

This banana republic stuff is just getting started.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 12, 2021 01:13 PM (XSoJN)

We'll be lucky if it only goes that far.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 01:16 PM (s2VJv)

358 Burn the whole fucking agency down.

Posted by: Elric Blade at November 12, 2021 12:44 PM (iFTx/)

Well, in my fantasy, we get 10-15 years where they go after and harass ALL the left leaning SOBs. Justice as it were. THEN disband.

Posted by: Iris at November 12, 2021 01:16 PM (DibdT)

359 They were only stealing from what I could tell laundry detergent.
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The other car was being loaded with nothing but paper towels. My theory is that it's a gang and each person is responsible for filling two carts with a shitload of one item, as fast as possible.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 12, 2021 01:17 PM (sGnvY)

360 Never answer the door.

Resisting arrest are you, white supremacist?

Posted by: The American Stasi! at November 12, 2021 01:17 PM (I2/tG)

361 356 330 Tami

Listening to this, I think the Judge is being overwhelmingly lenient to the Prosecution. Just depressing as hell.
Posted by: EveR at November 12, 2021 01:16 PM (MUpk6)


Doesn't want to force them into making call a mistrial. He should call a mistrial with prejudice or whatever the term is that prevents retrial.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 01:17 PM (s2VJv)

362 Look, Trump got fucked over by a few people.

Sessions fucking cucked out. Period. Never should've recused, should have seen, with Flynn, that phone call was a setup.

Rosenstein was a fucking snake who orchestrated 2 years of legal scorched earth lawfare.

Wray is pure swamp uselessness.

But sessions was gormless, led to rosenstein. Flynn should've yelled from rooftops, this is a strzok setup.

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 12, 2021 01:17 PM (ZZK0E)

363 >>Listening to this, I think the Judge is being overwhelmingly lenient to the Prosecution. Just depressing as hell.


The Defense is pathetic. Fucking pathetic.

That video MAY prove the existence of Sasquatch. But that is ALL it shows clearly.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2021 01:17 PM (HJ1lo)

364 Update your style books!

Libs of Tik Tok
@libsoftiktok
This non-binary assistant professor at Old Dominion University is trying to normalize the term MAP (Minor Attracted Persons)

"Walker contends that it's important to use a 'less stigmatizing' term to describe those who wish to have sex with children, not using the term pedophile but instead their preferred term."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 12, 2021 01:09 PM (FVME7)

well, it is in norfolk...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at November 12, 2021 01:18 PM (8D42x)

365 Walker contends that it's important to use a 'less stigmatizing' term to describe those who wish to have sex with children, not using the term pedophile

Pedophile *is* the less stigmatizing term, but we know what it really means.

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2021 01:18 PM (oBAbT)

366 Berserker you would probably be interested
War game convention this weekend at Valley Forge, going tomorrow so can't wait.

Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2021 01:18 PM (2JoB8)

367 319 255 I just didn't see much swamp draining when Trump had the ability to do so.

Posted by: Blago at November 12, 2021 01:01 PM (usqGO)

You assume Trump had the ability. The Deep State disagreed.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

LMAO. Yes he did.
Stop falling for the Trump was powerless lie. That narrative is being pushed by foreign interests.
He literally hosted an event recently with establishment GOPe/RNC to endorse them and introduce and endorse the LGBTQ agenda into the party.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at November 12, 2021 01:18 PM (alKIU)

368
Maybe O'Keefe didn't report the incest in her diary to the proper authorities. In USA 2.0 that's more of an issue then the actual incestual act(s).

As to the NYT's - I'll defer to Ann Coulter.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus, Vaccine and Massage Parlor at November 12, 2021 01:18 PM (dQvv7)

369 The Defense is pathetic.

I am not sure they really want to win, but its hard for them not to at this point

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2021 01:19 PM (KZzsI)

370 362 Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 12, 2021 01:17 PM (ZZK0E)

Trump got fucked over by a lot of people including some who thought were allies, if not friends.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 01:19 PM (s2VJv)

371 369 The Defense is pathetic

What did they do ?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 12, 2021 01:19 PM (ZLo/1)

372 >>Pedophile *is* the less stigmatizing term


Kid Fucker can be confusing, what with all of our new Blessings of Liberty and all.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2021 01:19 PM (HJ1lo)

373 Doesn't want to force them into making call a mistrial. He should call a mistrial with prejudice or whatever the term is that prevents retrial.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 01:17 PM (s2VJv)

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Judge is trying to avoid giving any reason for an appeal by the prosecutor.

Posted by: Blake - semi lurker at large at November 12, 2021 01:19 PM (ZwxDF)

374 Kinda makes you wonder if the whole point of the raids was to get info to the Times, eh?

Where's Yakoff Smirnoff to say "what a country" now?

Wazzat you say? Moved back to Russia? Huh

Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 12, 2021 01:19 PM (MFphb)

375 If leftists can mob us and kill us in the street and we are not allowed to defend ourselves. What happens next?

Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at November 12, 2021 01:19 PM (5bp/r)

376 They were only stealing from what I could tell laundry detergent.

Very popular shoplifting item. High value per pound, and infinitely resalable.

They have arrested several people in Portland for running informal laundry detergent sales operations in poor neighborhoods.

Posted by: The American Stasi! at November 12, 2021 01:20 PM (I2/tG)

377 filling two carts with a shitload of one item
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Though I should note that two carts full of paper towels is about $50 worth of merchandise. This is maybe not the smartest shoplifting gang in the country.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 12, 2021 01:20 PM (sGnvY)

378 361 356 330 Tami
Listening to this, I think the Judge is being overwhelmingly lenient to the Prosecution. Just depressing as hell.
Posted by: EveR at November 12, 2021 01:16 PM (MUpk6)
Doesn't want to force them into making call a mistrial. He should call a mistrial with prejudice or whatever the term is that prevents retrial.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 01:17 PM (s2VJv)


I keep saying it. The judge gives me Flynn trial judge vibes.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 12, 2021 01:20 PM (/6IdF)

379 >>What did they do ?


They are laying down on a lot of these Motions / Arguments.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2021 01:20 PM (HJ1lo)

380 come on, we got videos of rosenbaum chasing kyle, video of skateboard guy and jumpkick man, and the video of byecep.

the grainy photo clearly shows ... kyle standing with either:

1. lefthanded aiming
2. right handed rifle at rest
3. strap across back

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 12, 2021 01:20 PM (ZZK0E)

381 Walker contends that it's important to use a 'less stigmatizing' term to describe those who wish to have sex with children, not using the term pedophile

A few days ago I wrote about the left's approach to life, and this fits into it (and was completely expected by everyone here). They are more upset that some person who is different and odd feel bad about themselves than they are the victims of their predation.

ALL of the modern left's goals are about making some freak splinter group not feel bad about its self.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2021 01:20 PM (KZzsI)

382 375 a successful obamunist take over?

Posted by: CN- at November 12, 2021 01:20 PM (ONvIw)

383 This is what the prosecutor was arguing about....


@LawSelfDefense 13m

Kraus: State's belief is he pointed gun at Ziminski for another property crime, this conduct would be provocation, committing this unlawful act for anyone to intervene to try to chase him away, regardless of prior threats.

Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2021 01:20 PM (cF8AT)

384 375 If leftists can mob us and kill us in the street and we are not allowed to defend ourselves. What happens next?
Posted by: Duncan Macleod, The Highlander at November 12, 2021 01:19 PM (5bp/r)


You go after leftists in the dead of night. When no one is looking and there is no surveillance. Not that I condone that at all, mind you.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 01:20 PM (s2VJv)

385 363 garrett

Couldn't bl that Richards or Chirafisi didn't argue more about the bs in that drone video. Barnes may be right.

Posted by: EveR at November 12, 2021 01:21 PM (MUpk6)

386 This is maybe not the smartest shoplifting gang in the country

They make it up on volume!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2021 01:21 PM (KZzsI)

387 As trivia, Red Grant in From Russia With Love was a combination serial killer and paid hitman.
Posted by: ace at November 12, 2021


***
"Does the moon have any effect on you, Nash?"

"Mister Secret Service. Think I'm barmy. Don't worry, I wouldn't be where I am if I was barmy."

Posted by: Diana Ross at November 12, 2021 01:21 PM (txdEq)

388 The WI stuff was astounding - that it didn't result in jail time for the perpetrators. But as pointed out by others, similar activity has just accelerated. To the point where - which I found gobsmacking, even by then - a president can be lawlessly harassed via breaking of central protections and rules of the legacy* legal system (talking about NY stuff/Cohen, not the Mega-Scandal of "Russia!" or the Flynn assassination).

* "legacy" really needs to be appended to most references these days, simply because America literally is no longer America, and institutions as well

Posted by: rhomboid at November 12, 2021 01:21 PM (OTzUX)

389 ??? What car?
Posted by: SH (Overturn Roe) at November 12, 2021 01:01 PM (sX1BW)
================
That's a quote from "Untouchables". Nitti dies when he falls from a roof and smashes through the roof of a car parked below. Someone asks Ness, "Where's Nitti" and Ness replies, in a sardonic kind of Bond-esque tone, "He's in the car".

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 12, 2021 01:21 PM (NBppC)

390 @LawSelfDefense 13m

Kraus: State's belief is he pointed gun at Ziminski for another property crime, this conduct would be provocation, committing this unlawful act for anyone to intervene to try to chase him away, regardless of prior threats.
Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2021 01:20 PM (cF8AT)

Is this new ?

Posted by: It's me donna at November 12, 2021 01:21 PM (ZLo/1)

391 381: child molester?

Posted by: CN- at November 12, 2021 01:22 PM (ONvIw)

392 >>Kraus: State's belief is he pointed gun at Ziminski for another property crime, this conduct would be provocation, committing this unlawful act for anyone to intervene to try to chase him away, regardless of prior threats.


State's evidence doesn't even come close to demonstrating this, though.
AND their best chance of making that case would have been Testimony from the Yellow Pants Guy w/ the Gun. Which they avoided doing at all costs.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2021 01:22 PM (HJ1lo)

393 The other car was being loaded with nothing but paper towels. My theory is that it's a gang and each person is responsible for filling two carts with a shitload of one item, as fast as possible.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 12, 2021 01:17 PM (sGnvY)


That's kind of how they do it in SF. Stores are going to have to start not putting all of their stock out now that the social contract has broken down. Just face the shelves. Most they could walk out with is 3-4 bottles.

It was years ago now they said that Tide detergent was basically another form of currency. Here they just go for Tide (Gain is another P&G staple), Huggies/Pampers and cosmetics. Most shops stopped carrying cigarettes.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 12, 2021 01:22 PM (wAnMi)

394 >Pedophile *is* the less stigmatizing term, but we know what it really means.
Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2021 01:18 PM (oBAbT)

Yeah, we need to start using "kiddie fucker" instead.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 12, 2021 01:22 PM (cSs/W)

395 381 pedophiles should be surgically castrated...like in a Tennessee Williams play

Posted by: CN- at November 12, 2021 01:23 PM (ONvIw)

396 Judge referencing Boston bomber case and mentions Tsarnayev death sentence going to the Supreme Court.

Cannot believe this is where we are at in America. The fate of obvious terrorists who should be given death penalty needs to go to Supreme Court to decide? And it still has not after all this time? What is holdup?

Posted by: LizLem at November 12, 2021 01:23 PM (AvneP)

397 Kinda makes you wonder if the whole point of the raids was to get info to the Times, eh?

--

The raid was run at the request of the NYT. The government crooks' first stop after the raid was to present O'Keefe's data to the NYT.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 12, 2021 01:23 PM (5kI0z)

398 This non-binary assistant professor at Old Dominion University is trying to normalize the term MAP (Minor Attracted Persons)

He looks exactly like the "gray soyboy with a scraggly beard and glasses" meme too. It's kind of frightening.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 12, 2021 01:23 PM (ZGrMX)

399 Which courthouse do I file the national divorce papers in?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2021 01:23 PM (0ryfU)

400 I don't mind Hannity because he's on our side and fights. Is he annoying sometimes? Yes.
I remember when I was on the Cruz train and all Hannity pushed was Trump and I was so pissed at him, but as soon as Cruz was out and Trump was in I jumped on the Trump train and never regretted it. He was a big part of getting Trump elected.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2021 01:23 PM (NpAcC)

401 160 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, the hero Gotham deserves at November 12, 2021 12:46 PM (LvTSG)

Could not agree more. Plus prohibition was stupid and helped create violence. Thanks feds.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 12, 2021 12:50 PM (GjUEo)

Thanks to the Karens of that day.

Posted by: Inspector Closeau at November 12, 2021 01:23 PM (qyH+l)

402 Even if I try to "think" like a commie fuck, I can't see the offense.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 12, 2021 12:54 PM (sG4Hj)

I guess it's Badthink to notice supply-chain problems.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2021 01:23 PM (P3gRi)

403 >>Couldn't bl that Richards or Chirafisi didn't argue more about the bs in that drone video.


The Judge was already there! ALL they had to do was reiterate his argument.

This Judge has a bit of the Joe Rogan in him. He goes with the last argument made a lot of times.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2021 01:23 PM (HJ1lo)

404 The conservative case for the FBI serving a the para-military wing of the Democratic Party

Posted by: Jay Nordlinger at November 12, 2021 01:24 PM (Spr0s)

405 NYT inextricably linked with the Stasi in a fascist subversion of an individual's rights?


Hmmm.

Posted by: flounder at November 12, 2021 01:24 PM (SH2Zi)

406 341 We really are living in East Germany, aren't we? ...
Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 12, 2021 01:12 PM (I2/tG)
++++
No. They could only have wild wet dreams about the level of information gathering and retention that our Stasi enjoys.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 12, 2021 01:13 PM (DU+/6)


This is true.

Posted by: My name is Jose Jimanez at November 12, 2021 01:24 PM (Fs5vw)

407 OT:

Cardiologist Who Said He "Won't Cry at Funeral" For "Selfish" Unvaccinated People Suddenly Dies in His Sleep 2 Weeks After 3rd Covid Jab

Zombie O. Henry is taking notes for a story . . .

Over at Gateway.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 01:24 PM (s2VJv)

408 If you're into deflationary currency, Tide would be even better than Bitcoin. Not because of whether the blockchain can effectively survive the collapse of civilization, but because over time the Tide will all get eaten by millennials.

Posted by: CppThis at November 12, 2021 01:24 PM (UewuT)

409 Ronna Romney has no comment about this move by the FIB. I guess she's busy catering to the 1 percent Globalhomo wing of the party.

Posted by: Capital Eff believes #RonnaMustGo #McCarthyMustGo #McConnellMustGo at November 12, 2021 01:24 PM (2xGy+)

410 More charges from a made up enlarged photo from a video?

Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2021 01:24 PM (2JoB8)

411 I'm so old I remember when conservatives thought platforms would be held accountable for censorship.

Posted by: MJ at November 12, 2021 01:24 PM (zwDuR)

412 Maybe the NYT already had the info, but they needed the news hook to run it. The FBI is expert at providing news hooks.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2021 01:24 PM (0ryfU)

413 >>Cardiologist Who Said He "Won't Cry at Funeral" For "Selfish" Unvaccinated People...


He nailed that prediction.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2021 01:25 PM (HJ1lo)

414 365 Walker contends that it's important to use a 'less stigmatizing' term to describe those who wish to have sex with children, not using the term pedophile

Pedophile *is* the less stigmatizing term, but we know what it really means.

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2021 01:18 PM (oBAbT)

Call'em what they are: Kid Fuckers. They know how to handles those folks in prison.

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 12, 2021 01:25 PM (ynpvh)

415 Well she cheated on her husband and broke up her marriage to tie her coattails to Joe. So of course she's going to ignore it. Just like Hillary ignoring Bill's affairs until they had the potential to derail that climbing of the ladder.

She also broke up Joe's marriage.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 12, 2021 01:25 PM (ZGrMX)

416 413 >>Cardiologist Who Said He "Won't Cry at Funeral" For "Selfish" Unvaccinated People...

He nailed that prediction.
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2021 01:25 PM (HJ1lo)

I neglected to add "LMFAO."

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 01:25 PM (s2VJv)

417 If leftists can mob us and kill us in the street and we are not allowed to defend ourselves. What happens next?

Figure out "what you're allowed to do" doesn't matter or die at the hands of the mob.

Posted by: Methos at November 12, 2021 01:25 PM (kOpft)

418 This is bigger than Watergate
Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2021 12:39 PM (NpAcC)
Looking back, Watergate was petty larceny. This is murder.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 12:41 PM (s2VJv)


Waco was murder. 20 some children.
Ruby Ridge was murder. An un armed woman with a child in her arms.

Posted by: rd at November 12, 2021 01:25 PM (Z32m1)

419 >>Call'em what they are: Kid Fuckers.



Ahem.

Posted by: Afghan Refugee at November 12, 2021 01:25 PM (HJ1lo)

420 Cardiologist Who Said He "Won't Cry at Funeral" For "Selfish" Unvaccinated People Suddenly Dies in His Sleep 2 Weeks After 3rd Covid Jab


I hate reading these... My soon to be ex-DIL dragged my 13 year old Grandson to be vaxed... My Son was furious... Scares me what could happen to him

Posted by: It's me donna at November 12, 2021 01:26 PM (ZLo/1)

421 Elected Republicans won't say a word, either. Most are sleazy grifters and pedophiles, including McCarthy and McConnell. Take note of where the FBI field offices in your area
Encourage local law enforcement not to cooperate with these fascist pigs, and ostracize the agents and their families in your neighborhoods because they are fascist trash.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 12, 2021 01:26 PM (DSibj)

422 I think we should normalize referring to the FBI using the good Russian word "chekists".

It's the appropriate term for the political secret police.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at November 12, 2021 01:26 PM (I2/tG)

423 You go after leftists in the dead of night. When no one is looking and there is no surveillance. Not that I condone that at all, mind you.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 01:20 PM

Nope not at all.

Posted by: Frank Castle at November 12, 2021 01:26 PM (Do5/p)

424 Judge allowing them to rack up lesser charges on what looks to be sketchy vid evidence against Kyle. Crap.

Posted by: LizLem at November 12, 2021 01:26 PM (AvneP)

425 >>>Defund the FBI.

>>>Disband it.

>>>Start a new agency.

Not so fast on that last part.

Posted by: flounder at November 12, 2021 01:26 PM (SH2Zi)

426 418 Waco was murder. 20 some children.
Ruby Ridge was murder. An un armed woman with a child in her arms.
Posted by: rd at November 12, 2021 01:25 PM (Z32m1)


I was using metaphor. But sadly, your statement is painfully true.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 01:26 PM (s2VJv)

427 If you have a mortgage, then you should welcome inflation. Pretty soon your $250,000 loan will be worth the same as a loaf of bread, and your house will be worth the current national debt.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2021 01:27 PM (0ryfU)

428
She also broke up Joe's marriage.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 12, 2021 01:25 PM (ZGrMX)

I still think Joes first wife drove in front of that truck on purpose

Posted by: It's me donna at November 12, 2021 01:27 PM (ZLo/1)

429 >>> I don't mind Hannity because he's on our side and fights. Is he annoying sometimes? Yes.
I remember when I was on the Cruz train and all Hannity pushed was Trump and I was so pissed at him, but as soon as Cruz was out and Trump was in I jumped on the Trump train and never regretted it. He was a big part of getting Trump elected.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 12, 2021 01:23 PM (NpAcC)


I think it's Hannity's alliance with Lindsey Graham and his unwavering support for the organizations of the deep state that riles people. Hannity is probably one of those people that just can't be "put to learnin". When he's helpful, sure, great.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 12, 2021 01:27 PM (l4HL2)

430 Cardiologist Who Said He "Won't Cry at Funeral" For "Selfish" Unvaccinated People...

Please, sir, compose yourself! Oh, wait...

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2021 01:27 PM (oBAbT)

431 ALL of the modern left's goals are about making some freak splinter group not feel bad about its self.

The Left is all about separating the sinner from the short and medium term consequences of his sin, so that he cannot learn the error of his ways.

Posted by: Methos at November 12, 2021 01:27 PM (kOpft)

432 424 Judge allowing them to rack up lesser charges on what looks to be sketchy vid evidence against Kyle. Crap.

Judge was threatened no doubt.. Has to have some guilty charges

Posted by: It's me donna at November 12, 2021 01:28 PM (ZLo/1)

433 ALL of the modern left's goals are about making some freak splinter group not feel bad about its self.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylo

Correction: ALL of the modern left's goals are about feeling good about ostentatiously white-knighting for some freak splinter group's feelings.

Posted by: vmom - link to Red's fundraiser at November 12, 2021 01:28 PM (YZG/i)

434 Cardiologist Who Said He "Won't Cry at Funeral" For "Selfish" Unvaccinated People Suddenly Dies in His Sleep 2 Weeks After 3rd Covid Jab
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Shot-enfreude

Posted by: MJ at November 12, 2021 01:28 PM (zwDuR)

435 not using the term pedophile but instead their preferred term."

I don't give a darn what they're "preferred term" is.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2021 01:28 PM (YK8CE)

436 Don't know if you see this in other non-left coast places, but in some supermarkets here, Tide Pods are locked up along side the good razors and baby formula, next to the cigs.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 12, 2021 01:28 PM (cSs/W)

437 430 Cardiologist Who Said He "Won't Cry at Funeral" For "Selfish" Unvaccinated People...

Please, sir, compose yourself! Oh, wait...

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2021 01:27 PM (oBAbT)

De-compose yourself!

Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia) at November 12, 2021 01:28 PM (ynpvh)

438 state argues that rosenbaum got so enraged by kyle that he charged kyle and braved a gunshot

Posted by: Tim Riggins at November 12, 2021 01:28 PM (ZZK0E)

439 Cardiologist Who Said He "Won't Cry at Funeral" For "Selfish" Unvaccinated People...

Please, sir, compose yourself! Oh, wait...
Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2021 01:27 PM (oBAbT)

he's now into modern music.

he's decomposing...

Posted by: SturmToddler (8D42x) at November 12, 2021 01:29 PM (8D42x)

440 434 Shot-enfreude
Posted by: MJ at November 12, 2021 01:28 PM (zwDuR)


Ooh, very clever. I will steal it.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 12, 2021 01:29 PM (s2VJv)

441 straight men dont cross their legs above knee.
Hoover and Tolson:
https://tinyurl.com/vkx32amv

Posted by: Jamaica Queens at November 12, 2021 01:29 PM (b+v9B)

442 -
state argues that rosenbaum got so enraged by kyle that he charged kyle and braved a gunshot -
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Uhm... so? Still self defense.

Posted by: irright at November 12, 2021 01:30 PM (SchQD)

443 straight men dont cross their legs above knee.
Hoover and Tolson:
https://tinyurl.com/vkx32amv
Posted by: Jamaica Queens at November 12, 2021 01:29 PM (b+v9B)


Even with those mugs they look fruity AF.

Posted by: clutch cargo - processed in a facility that may contain lead at November 12, 2021 01:30 PM (wAnMi)

444 straight men dont cross their legs above knee.

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Define "men" H8ER!

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 12, 2021 01:30 PM (OalnH)

445 state argues that rosenbaum got so enraged by kyle that he charged kyle and braved a gunshot
Posted by: Tim Riggins



That's not legal justification.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2021 01:30 PM (OCTRt)

446 So, has anyone from Hot Air posted about the New York Crimes and their access to such confidential info?

Or are they so conservative, they can't even?

Posted by: Another Anon at November 12, 2021 01:31 PM (bW28E)

447 427 If you have a mortgage, then you should welcome inflation. Pretty soon your $250,000 loan will be worth the same as a loaf of bread, and your house will be worth the current national debt.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2021 01:27 PM (0ryfU)

True.

Posted by: WhyBanned at November 12, 2021 01:31 PM (ulaXh)

448 Ooh, very clever. I will steal it.

-------------------
Good!

What was that stupid show with a guy named david something and he'd make a pun, put on the sunglasses, and then The Who song would play?

Sandford and Son?

Posted by: MJ at November 12, 2021 01:31 PM (zwDuR)

449 next step for the feds: illegal gag order

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at November 12, 2021 01:31 PM (h1jJh)

450 Kraus: State's belief is he pointed gun at Ziminski for another property crime, this conduct would be provocation, committing this unlawful act for anyone to intervene to try to chase him away, regardless of prior threats.
Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2021 01:20 PM (cF8AT)

Is this new ?
Posted by: It's me donna at November 12, 2021 01:21 PM (ZLo/1)

There's been no evidence to suggest this...it's just their "belief" off a really bad grainy video that no one can say one way or another what is happening.

Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2021 01:31 PM (cF8AT)

451 I'm loving getting the "ding-dong", and checking the camera to see what's going on. Like that #$%& feral cat. You can configure to just humans, or any motion - it's also got facial recognition.
Posted by: clutch cargo

So this is cc?

Posted by: Infidel at November 12, 2021 01:31 PM (aH0Li)

452 The FBI provided drone video to the Rittenhouse trial. No one knew they had it.
They were there, probably organizing the violence.

Posted by: gourmand du jour at November 12, 2021 01:31 PM (jTmQV)

453 OT-NJ is stuck with awful Phil Murphy. The Republican, Jack C. just conceded. I wonder if he's going to go the route of the fascist in Melbourne, Australia? Well people people imprisoned in their homes, beating on the street?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2021 01:32 PM (YK8CE)

454 >>> straight men dont cross their legs above knee.
Hoover and Tolson:
https://tinyurl.com/vkx32amv
Posted by: Jamaica Queens at November 12, 2021 01:29 PM (b+v9B)


How the F do you even do that? It would be literal nutcracker time. I racked the boys one time just getting out of the back of a friend's compact wrong.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 12, 2021 01:32 PM (l4HL2)

455 432 Its me donna,
The judge has to do that as it is Wisconsin law, strange but true that state can throw in additional charges after the close of the defense.

Go to legal insurrection and Andrew Branca's commentary as he has the actual statutes available to read and commentary about them.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2021 01:32 PM (9hXN1)

456 CNN is going to revert to a 100% news channel, and a "good number" of CNN's "talent/stff" will be fired as part of a major shakeup.

Lol

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2021 01:32 PM (0ryfU)

457 @LawSelfDefense 2m

That's it for #KyleRittenhouse court today.

Court will return on Monday, 9am, for instruction of the jury, closing arguments (up to 5 hours!!!), and then start of jury deliberations.

Posted by: Tami at November 12, 2021 01:32 PM (cF8AT)

458 Walker contends that it's important to use a 'less stigmatizing' term to describe those who wish to have sex with children, not using the term pedophile

Keep pushing, douchebag. You and your ilk are exposing yourselves for what you truly are - pure, unadulterated evil. You will be judged.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 12, 2021 01:32 PM (Xrfse)

459 446 So, has anyone from Hot Air posted about the New York Crimes and their access to such confidential info?

Or are they so conservative, they can't even?
Posted by: Another Anon at November 12, 2021 01:31 PM (bW28E)

___

An intern will post about it Saturday night at 2am.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 12, 2021 01:32 PM (OalnH)

460 straight men dont cross their legs above knee.
Hoover and Tolson:
https://tinyurl.com/vkx32amv


I just tried it and couldn't even get close. That's a circus performer's move. (or, as you say...)

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2021 01:33 PM (BvZkh)

461 >>Cardiologist Who Said He "Won't Cry at Funeral" For "Selfish" Unvaccinated People Suddenly Dies in His Sleep 2 Weeks After 3rd Covid Jab


I am so tired of these newsbits. Typically it's a headline or tweet about some anti-mask or anti-vax person getting covid and being hospitalized or dead. The desired response is "LOL, you DESERVE this science-denier!"

No. So I won't laugh at the reverse.
This is China's fault, the covid and the subsequent further coarsening of our culture to be gleeful when others w/different politics die.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 12, 2021 01:33 PM (bDqIh)

462 453: Murphy announced today that his mask order for kids in schools might not need to be extended past January 11, provided enough kids are vaccinated.

Jack's expectedly strong performance won't phase Murphy at all. Double down, full speed ahead.

Posted by: Revenant at November 12, 2021 01:33 PM (cOGHc)

463 >Judge allowing them to rack up lesser charges on what looks to be sketchy vid evidence against Kyle. Crap.
Posted by: LizLem at November 12, 2021 01:26 PM (AvneP)

People praising the judge because he yelled at the prosecutor but he's never actually given that asshole any kind of consequences, and has handed him a lot of shady victories over the last few days. Yeah, the fix is in.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 12, 2021 01:33 PM (cSs/W)

464 Walker contends that it's important to use a 'less stigmatizing' term to describe those who wish to have sex with children, not using the term pedophile

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How 'bout Piece of Shit Human filth

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 12, 2021 01:34 PM (OalnH)

465 What does the pedophile want to be teach at Old Dominion University?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2021 01:34 PM (YK8CE)

466 447 427 If you have a mortgage, then you should welcome inflation. Pretty soon your $250,000 loan will be worth the same as a loaf of bread, and your house will be worth the current national debt.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2021 01:27 PM (0ryfU)

True.

Posted by: WhyBanned

The problem with that is wages are sticky and wages rarely keep up with inflation especially for salaried folks. What you are seeing is real time impoverishment of the American population unless you can get over 15 percent yield from your investments (using the original 70's inflation formula). Real wages have already dropped significantly in October.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2021 01:34 PM (9hXN1)

467 Could not agree more. Plus prohibition was stupid and helped create violence. Thanks feds.
Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at November 12, 2021 12:50 PM (GjUEo)

Thanks to the Karens of that day.
Posted by: Inspector Closeau at November 12, 2021 01:23 PM

Which makes you think. We've been going through the same type of Karen-pushed prohibition all throughout the Plandemic and yet... no violence. Says a lot about how willing to obey and comply with tyrannical government dictates the American public is now compared to then.

Took away people's ability to assemble (parks, church, shopping, sports games, weddings, funerals), gave a little back but with the qualification of forced mask-wearing and "social-distancing", but now back to not only denying activities back on "vaccination" status, but forcing people out of their jobs due to "vaccination" status. And yet... no violence. You wonder if anyone today would even be bothered to fight if they reinstituted prohibition.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 12, 2021 01:34 PM (Do5/p)

468 I am sure at the KGB Retirement Home there are a bunch of "Agents" on rockers saying while watching the FBI: "Good Times...Good Times." "Da"

Posted by: Paladin at November 12, 2021 01:35 PM (CE4w9)

469 >The judge has to do that as it is Wisconsin law, strange but true that state can throw in additional charges after the close of the defense.

Posted by: whig at November 12, 2021 01:32 PM (9hXN1)

That's insanity.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 12, 2021 01:35 PM (cSs/W)

470 you need to have had assisted flexibilty training. Hurts to look at them.

Posted by: Jamaica Queens at November 12, 2021 01:35 PM (b+v9B)

471 Cardiologist Who Said He "Won't Cry at Funeral" For "Selfish" Unvaccinated People Suddenly Dies in His Sleep 2 Weeks After 3rd Covid Jab

I feel bad for his family but you can't help but sense the justice of God at work here.

The Left is all about separating the sinner from the short and medium term consequences of his sin

They have a basic problem with their intention and that's with guilt. People know when they do wrong. Psychopaths and serial killers when interviewed admit that they know what they are doing is wrong but don't care.

That feeling of guilt and wrongness before God is not societal pressure or people being mean. Its internal, and you cannot escape that by redefining words, passing laws, and demonizing normal people.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2021 01:35 PM (KZzsI)

472 No. So I won't laugh at the reverse.

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I will.

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA. Fuck you "doctor". War.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 12, 2021 01:35 PM (OalnH)

473 -
Walker contends that it's important to use a 'less stigmatizing' term to describe those who wish to have sex with children, not using the term pedophile

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Would they prefer the term dead. Because I would.

Posted by: irright at November 12, 2021 01:35 PM (SchQD)

474 CNN has no talent.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 12, 2021 01:35 PM (ekXJa)

475 As of about a minute ago, not one pixel from the HotAir writers has been wasted on the Project Veritas fiasco. The best that has been done so far is a link to RedState's view about it.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 12, 2021 01:36 PM (+IbPv)

476 Walker contends that it's important to use a 'less stigmatizing' term to describe those who wish to have sex with children, not using the term pedophile

Like President!

Posted by: Joey B! at November 12, 2021 01:36 PM (AytXr)

477 462 I'd prefer the grandsons wear the fucking mask rather than risk cardiac problems

Posted by: CN- at November 12, 2021 01:36 PM (ONvIw)

478 The defense didn't provide a single shred of evidence that Kyle did not intend to continue his killing spree all the way to DC and overthrow the government. We are adding insurrection and 535 counts of attempted murder to the charges.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2021 01:36 PM (0ryfU)

479 Which makes you think. We've been going through the same type of Karen-pushed prohibition all throughout the Plandemic and yet... no violence.

The violence during prohibition didn't take place because people were outraged at having their liberty restricted. Nearly everyone went along with it or secretly drank, they didn't rise up with torches and nooses.

The violence came about because there was tremendous money to be made providing illegal booze, and competition became deadly.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 12, 2021 01:37 PM (KZzsI)

480 nood

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 12, 2021 01:37 PM (cSs/W)

481 Raimondo and Kurt.

Too stupi....oh, wait.

Posted by: Bosk at November 12, 2021 01:37 PM (x6uUk)

482 There is some good news. CNN is about to lay off plenty of staff as their numbers go into the toilet. Maybe Pelosi can compromise and take some FBI funding and give it to CNN.

Nah, better to pay for hired guns than propaganda.

Posted by: Thomas Paine at November 12, 2021 01:37 PM (5kI0z)

483 > The problem with that is wages are sticky and wages rarely keep up with inflation especially for salaried folks. What you are seeing is real time impoverishment of the American population unless you can get over 15 percent yield from your investments (using the original 70's inflation formula). Real wages have already dropped significantly in October.

I believe that in the Weimar Republic, employers started paying people daily or even twice a day. As soon as you got paid, you ran out and bought your groceries because your money would become worthless that quickly.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 12, 2021 01:37 PM (sG4Hj)

484 This is China's fault

No, this is our fault. We reacted poorly to something that should have been a lamentable chapter in history.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 12, 2021 01:37 PM (Xrfse)

485 This NYPD lawyer is really bringing me down with this rant about "provocation".

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 12, 2021 01:37 PM (sGnvY)

486 Judge allowing them to rack up lesser charges on what looks to be sketchy vid evidence against Kyle. Crap.
Posted by: LizLem at November 12, 2021 01:26 PM (AvneP)


Im having a hard time following the retreat/provocation jury charge arguments on line. Is there a run down of what the judge has approved as the jury instructions ?

Posted by: LASue at November 12, 2021 01:37 PM (Ed8Zd)

487 I think I would trust any MS13 cartel member over the FBI now....

Posted by: KarlHungus at November 12, 2021 01:38 PM (zB2xb)

488 After listening to instructions and the odious Kraus having snitches to get ppl thrown off the jury (someone knows someone), I'm hoping for a mistrial. Kraus was giddy he was getting texts to throw off anyone not ready to lynch Kyle, after getting his bs drone picture included.

Posted by: EveR at November 12, 2021 01:38 PM (MUpk6)

489 Remember the two people - Daleiden and Merritt, who in 2015 recorded Planned Abortionhood's talking and laughing about selling fetal body parts. They were charged in CA in 2017 by the corrupt AG Xavier Becerra with everything that they could throw at them. 15 felony counts of invasion of privacy. Daleiden was arraigned in February of 2019 on 10 felony counts. I don't know where the case/s stand now. The Thomas Moore Society was representing them.

Total political hit by Democrats.

Posted by: Cheri at November 12, 2021 01:38 PM (oiNtH)

490 I've said this before but I'm digging this inflation. My cost to buy "stuff" is more than made up by the increase in the value of my assets. Since Biden took over stocks are up around 20%, real estate (for me as this is all local) is up at least 20% as well, maybe more. I own a lot of stocks and real estate. So yeah I'll happily pay 40 cents more for gas and $2 for a hamburger, if my assets grow 20%.

Posted by: Joe XiDen - Delta Delta Delta Can I help ya help ya help ya Variant at November 12, 2021 01:39 PM (OalnH)

491 If inflation get to the point where my property is worth $30 trillion, i think at that point it is moot whether my wages have kept up or not.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2021 01:39 PM (0ryfU)

492 >>Walker contends that it's important to use a 'less stigmatizing' term to describe those who wish to have sex with children, not using the term pedophile


Gee, if only people had recognized that the SSM fight would eventually lead to this, huh?

It's as if it wasn't about love but about breaking down all the barriers between normality and deviance, and destroying any institution that promotes traditional values.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 12, 2021 01:40 PM (bDqIh)

493 Rittenhouse in therapy for PTSD. Some of that emotional response on the stand looked like a panic attack to me.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 12, 2021 01:40 PM (sG4Hj)

494 Jack Ciattarelli is expected to concede to Phil Murphy in the NJ Governor's race later today.

Fen, CBD and all other law-abiding NJ residents hardest hit.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 12, 2021 01:40 PM (+IbPv)

495 > Walker contends that it's important to use a 'less stigmatizing' term to describe those who wish to have sex with children, not using the term pedophile

They're been trying to push MAP for a while now. (Minor attracted person).

Posted by: bonhomme at November 12, 2021 01:41 PM (sG4Hj)

496 "Walker contends that it's important to use a 'less stigmatizing' term to describe those who wish to have sex with children, not using the term pedophile but instead their preferred term."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks Now With Pumpkin Spice! at November 12, 2021 01:09 PM (FVME7)

I'll go with "kiddie diddlers' and "targets".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 12, 2021 01:41 PM (P3gRi)

497 Cardiologist Who Said He "Won't Cry at Funeral" For "Selfish" Unvaccinated People Suddenly Dies in His Sleep 2 Weeks After 3rd Covid Jab

**

Here's the thing.

I haven't heard any pro-freedom person wishing death on people who get the shots for getting the shots.

Lots of the opposite, though.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14 at November 12, 2021 01:42 PM (XSoJN)

498 474 CNN has no talent.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 12, 2021 01:35 PM (ekXJa)

T A T E R.

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at November 12, 2021 01:44 PM (MkuC5)

499 did I miss the nood?

Posted by: Infidel at November 12, 2021 01:45 PM (aH0Li)

500 I haven't heard any pro-freedom person wishing death on people who get the shots for getting the shots.

Lots of the opposite, though.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Pfizer added a heart attack stabilizer to the kids injection, p14


I'd be a little more "serves you right" as to the side effects...but then they foisted this shit on children.

Posted by: Some Rat at November 12, 2021 01:46 PM (r1z5A)

501 @497 "Alexander the Coppersmith did me great harm. May the Lord reward him according to his works" -- Paul the Apostle.

"See ya on the other side of the other side, Doc." -- Me

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at November 12, 2021 01:46 PM (MkuC5)

502 >>> 367 319 255 I just didn't see much swamp draining when Trump had the ability to do so.

Posted by: Blago at November 12, 2021 01:01 PM (usqGO)

You assume Trump had the ability. The Deep State disagreed.
Posted by: jim (in Kalifornia)

LMAO. Yes he did.
Stop falling for the Trump was powerless lie. That narrative is being pushed by foreign interests.
He literally hosted an event recently with establishment GOPe/RNC to endorse them and introduce and endorse the LGBTQ agenda into the party.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at November 12, 2021 01:18 PM (alKIU)

Er... wut? Well, regardless of who's pushing it, if it IS a lie that he was not able to do anything about the Derp State, this begs the question of WHY didn't he do jack shit? Not to mention after this month last year, exactly who will be ALLOWED to be in that position ever again?

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 12, 2021 01:47 PM (wqF6C)

503 Conclusions drawn after reading--I'll keep on living my life according to the values and morality instilled by my parents (those currently scorned by the elite) and those offended can deal.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 12, 2021 01:48 PM (KATBx)

504 Jack Ciattarelli is expected to concede to Phil Murphy in the NJ Governor's race later today.

I've heard the senate president conceded to the truck driver to try and forestall any investigations into the tens of thousands of ballots that were "found in a closet", all (D).

Posted by: Ian S. at November 12, 2021 01:49 PM (ZGrMX)

505 So this is cc?
Posted by: Infidel at November 12, 2021


***
"So This Is Christmas"

"So you want to be my latex salesman?"

Posted by: Diana Ross at November 12, 2021 01:51 PM (txdEq)

506 "A fish rots from the head down" carries the implication that, by replacing the head, you can somehow unrot the fish. You can't. The whole body is rotten, no matter how often they (Trump included) whine about "there are some good people in it." There aren't - not any more. The so-called "good people" are standing by, refusing to even whistle-blow on this stuff.

Discard the fish, and go catch a new one.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at November 12, 2021 01:57 PM (K58O6)

507 .I keep hearing things like "this can't last", and "we are nearing the tipping point" and I want to agree, but the evidence does not support such a thing. The evidence supports retreat and distance.

Agreed. IMHO, there is no way out of this that does not involve violence.

To be honest, and not to blackpill, I think the "the right" will be extinct in 2 generations. simply not enough fire in the belly to do dirty work.
There isnt an institution alive that is going to help. We are on our own. Until our side sheds that , "but we have more to lose" shit worrying about losing stuff and maybe ending up dead, nothing will change.
It pissed me off that if we really believed in Jesus Christ, we wouldnt be worried about losing our Earthly shit.

May Jesus protect all of you.


Posted by: Troy at November 12, 2021 01:58 PM (CDl9u)

508 "Walker contends that it's important to use a 'less stigmatizing' term to describe those who wish to have sex with children, not using the term pedophile but instead their preferred term."

Cool. We can call them "Democrats" instead.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 12, 2021 02:01 PM (P9T5R)

509 I have insider information that James O'Keefe has a long history of driving at 54 MPH to help him skirt the law.

Posted by: Socratease at November 12, 2021 02:13 PM (oqnjT)

510 WAIT, WAIT, WAIT....

You had to check if you were following Drew Hernandez?

What is your new twitter handle, Ace?

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at November 12, 2021 03:22 PM (mxX7B)

511 Why would we replace the FBI? It'd just be full of the same shitheels within a decade.

Nah, let's just cut the government back to what it ought to be--nada--and we can go from there.

Posted by: Joe Blow at November 12, 2021 03:33 PM (XjV2Y)

512 You are wrong, sir! THIS is AMERICA.


Nothing about that reality has changed, recently. Only your perception of the existing reality has changed.

The Republic has already fallen. You are watching the legs twitch in the hours after the heart stopped beating, but the muscles are still relaxing.

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at November 12, 2021 04:00 PM (JG+0H)

513 511 Why would we replace the FBI? It'd just be full of the same shitheels within a decade.

Nah, let's just cut the government back to what it ought to be--nada--and we can go from there.
Posted by: Joe Blow at November 12, 2021 03:33 PM (XjV2Y)

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God bless you. The FBI's existence is the core problem. When #conservatives suggest that "It can work, the right people just haven't been in charge," I'm reminded of the explanation I get for why Socialism always fails

Posted by: insurgens ad opus at November 12, 2021 04:03 PM (JG+0H)

514 They do NOT deserve to be in Gitmo.

They deserve to be UNDER Gitmo.

Posted by: GWB at November 12, 2021 04:45 PM (Gcsm/)

515 A motivating discussion is definitely worth comment.
I believe that you should write more about this issue,
it may not be a taboo matter but usually folks don't speak about these
topics. To the next! Best wishes!!

Posted by: zoomer swim fins at November 29, 2021 01:59 PM (uaYuR)

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