Daily Tech News 5 November 2021

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Alder Lake is here. (AnandTech)

Intel's 12th generation CPUs are fast - significantly faster than both their own 11th generation and AMD's Zen 3, at least on single-threaded tasks. On Passmark, which tracks pretty well with the code I need to run, the 12900K is a solid 20% faster than competing chips at least in single-threaded tests.

Multi-threaded, it's over 50% faster than the 11900K - but that's with the addition of eight low-power cores, which should indeed add 50% performance overall. That brings it close to AMD's 5900X, though still well behind the 5950X.

The low-power cores are far from useless, delivering about 60% of the performance of the full cores for integer tasks, and 50% for floating point. (They probably have exactly half the floating point hardware.)

Which means that those low power cores are faster than the full cores on the four year old Ryzen 1700 I am typing this on. (I do have something much faster, but Eternal October arrived and I haven't had time to set it up yet.)

And looking at the die photos, the low power cores are a quarter the size of the full cores - so if you are running multi-threaded tasks, you could get twice the overall performance in the same die area.

In fact, the chart shows that on integer tasks, and with fast DDR5 RAM, the low-power cores are only about 10% behind AMD's prior generation chips.

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So what's the catch? If you're familiar with Intel's 9th, 10th, and 11th generation chips you already know: At full speed this thing could melt the polar ice caps. (AnandTech)

While it's rated at 125W - not much more than the 105W for AMD's high-end desktop chips - that's only the "base" power. "Turbo" power - meaning what it is supposed to run at under load - is 241W. What it actually runs at under load is 272W. AMD's 16 core parts peak at 141W.

You will need water cooling for this one.
If you don't need the absolute fastest (and hottest) CPU available, though, the 12600K actually looks very attractive. (Tom's Hardware)

This has six full cores and four low-power cores - designated 6+4, vs. 8+8 for the 12900K. Ignoring the low-power cores for the moment, you get 70% of the performance for half the price, and also drastically reduced power and heat, maxing out at 150W.

In the mid tier, where it competes with AMD's 5600X, it is pretty clearly the best value right now. Again it's about 20% faster on single-threaded tasks and indeed faster than any processor from AMD or Apple. On multi-threaded tasks the win is less than 10%, but that's probably not the key focus for this chip. Peak power at 150W is double the 75W of the 5600X, but it's not a space heater.
If you need a matching motherboard, the Asus ROG Maximus Z690 Hero is one. (Tom's Hardware)

It's a high-end board - it costs as much as the 12900K itself - but ticks every feature box except 10Gb Ethernet. It does have 2.5GbE, and dual Thunderbolt 4 ports, and support for up to five M.2 drives.
With Alder Lake bringing PCIe 5 support to the consumer market engineers are already turning their attention to PCIe 6. (Tom's Hardware)

Test chips and boards are now available for companies preparing PCIe 6 hardware, which is expected to ship to the server market either late next year or early 2023.
Why is everything so hard in a large organisation? Because people. (do not look into laser with remaining eye)

Solution: Get rid of the people.
Another day, another Node.js security catastrophe. (Bleeping Computer)

A key problem is that JavaScript was intended to run in the browser. It has no "standard library", something every language needs to perform useful work.

So the community rallied together to build a standard library, producing Node.js and NPM, both of which are unmitigated clusterfucks.
You're owning it wrong: Apple SVP Craig Federighi explained to Apple customers that no soup for you. (9to5Mac)
Our mission is to provide people with the choice of what we view as the best.
What you want is irrelevant. You get what you are given, and you sing Apple's praises.
When you care enough to hire the very second best: Beancounters at IBM have instructed Red Hat to hire all new employees at one tier lower than previously. (The Register)

If you depend on any Red Hat software or services, flee, now.
Jeffy B. lost again in his series of suits against SpaceX. (The Register)

The one page decision grants everything SpaceX asked for and tells Bezos' Blue Origin to take a long walk off a short pier.
Asus is preparing an affordable 13" tablet PC with an OLED screen. (Ars Technica)

It's only 1920x1080 and not 3000x2000, but for a device starting at $600 that's understandable. Less understandable is the Atom N6000 CPU and the 4GB of RAM on that $600 model.

On the other hand, it does include a headphone jack and a micro SD slot, features that are disturbingly absent on an increasing number of devices. On the third hand, no Four Essential Keys. Asus is one of the better companies when it comes to the FEK, but is still hit-and-miss.

And on the fourth hand, it comes with Windows 11.

Disclaimer: Windows 11, now available in Home, Professional, and NFT editions!

Posted by: Pixy Misa at 03:09 AM

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1 whoo-hoo!

Posted by: m at November 05, 2021 02:15 AM (TZgEk)

2 >>>Solution: Get rid of the people.

This reminds me of a George Carlin line.

Posted by: m at November 05, 2021 02:18 AM (TZgEk)

3 If I knew or understood anything about tech-

1-I would get moar moneys

2-I would get moar moar moneys

Posted by: Miklos, pleading ignorance at November 05, 2021 02:20 AM (QzkSJ)

4 whoo-hoo!
Posted by: m

Application for MiklosTech Cheerleading Team APPROVED

Posted by: University of Miklos Tech at November 05, 2021 02:22 AM (QzkSJ)

5 The Rekieta stream going on is pretty good.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 05, 2021 02:23 AM (csEWM)

6 Carlin (Save the Bees):

So the plastic is here, our job is done, we can be phased out now, and I think that's really started already, don't you? I mean, to be fair, the planet probably sees us as a mild threat; something to be dealt with, and I'm sure the planet will defend itself in the manner of a large organism. Like a beehive or an ant colony can muster a defence, I'm sure the planet will think of something. What would you do if you were the planet trying to defend against this pesky, troublesome species? Let's see. . . what might. . . hmm. . . viruses!

https://tinyurl.com/4wzbw2dv

Posted by: m at November 05, 2021 02:24 AM (TZgEk)

7 These Pixy tech threads are cool, and the tech upgrades are nice reads, but we have gotten so far away from what's important, and simple, in life: a good guitar, a Marshall stack, a lid of Northern California's finest, and your preferred cannabinoid delivery system. Once you've gotten to there on Maslow's hierarchy of needs, it's a clear path to self-actualization.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 05, 2021 02:29 AM (KAi1n)

8 Once you've gotten to there on Maslow's hierarchy of needs, it's a clear path to self-actualization.
Posted by: SFGoth

Maslow revised his hierarchy. So FBM

Food, clothing, and shelter.

I focus on the food part mainly. And cars, which Maslow notoriously forgot to even think about.

Prolly homo.

Posted by: Miklos, unreconstructed at November 05, 2021 02:34 AM (QzkSJ)

9 Psych test: food, clothing, or shelter? Pick one.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 05, 2021 02:41 AM (KAi1n)

10 Psych test: food, clothing, or shelter? Pick one.
Posted by: SFGoth

*picks nose, invokes ADA*

Posted by: Miklos, gaming the "system" at November 05, 2021 02:46 AM (QzkSJ)

11 *picks nose, invokes ADA*
Posted by: Miklos, gaming the "system"

So food and shelter. Shortbus capable.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 05, 2021 02:50 AM (KAi1n)

12 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 05, 2021 02:52 AM (arJlL)

13 So food and shelter. Shortbus capable.
Posted by: SFGoth

With sufficient counseling, training, and special accommodations, one day I will DRIVE the short bus.

For maybe a half day, but that's where the contingent liability and limited immunity part comes in.

Posted by: Miklos, not smart like they say at November 05, 2021 02:56 AM (QzkSJ)

14 JT

Posted by: yee-ha at November 05, 2021 02:57 AM (QzkSJ)

15 Hiya Miklos !

Posted by: JT at November 05, 2021 03:05 AM (arJlL)

16 Love my new, cheapo flip-phone! (Trackphone)

Didn't require scrooogle or crappple sign-up; it's "KaiOS" whatever that is...

20 for fone, 200 for a year of unlimited texts/talk. Don't GAF about data, 'cause I don't use the web function. It'll wrk out just fine.

Posted by: JQ at November 05, 2021 03:08 AM (dB4Iz)

17 These chipmakers come out with new versions faster than Biden can overload a Depends.

In either case, it's a shitty job.

Morning, y'all.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 05, 2021 03:32 AM (F0YaR)

18 Hiya JQ !

Where can I get one of those phones ?

Posted by: JT at November 05, 2021 03:35 AM (arJlL)

19 As was complaining downstairs Have to drive into the city to do a job that will take less time than drive.

Posted by: Skip at November 05, 2021 03:38 AM (2JoB8)

20 https://tinyurl.com/3kdnxv8d
Anmerican Thinker why do they want to vaccinate children

Posted by: Skip at November 05, 2021 03:40 AM (2JoB8)

21 I know you could take the MySQL skeleton in "Killing Deep States" which lays out how to crowd source government documents with focus...and put meat on them bones to do the assault!

Posted by: SenatorMark4 at November 05, 2021 03:40 AM (DlT2q)

22 So,

We got some new widgets for our gadgets. Let's hope that they aren't just a cog in our sprockets.

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at November 05, 2021 03:41 AM (Ocv6A)

23 What are the four essential keys?

Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 05, 2021 03:42 AM (OssQ4)

24
We got some new widgets for our gadgets. Let's hope that they aren't just a cog in our sprockets.
Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80

There you go again, ignoring the hermaphugs! How many times I gotta tell you to pay attention to the hermaphugs?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 05, 2021 03:43 AM (+aiYj)

25
What are the four essential keys?
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus

Key West
Key Largo
Key Lime Pie
and ... I forget

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 05, 2021 03:45 AM (+aiYj)

26 23 What are the four essential keys?
Posted by: Taqiyyologist, Rickrolled by Jesus at November 05, 2021 03:42 AM (OssQ4)

Home
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Posted by: m at November 05, 2021 03:46 AM (TZgEk)

27 Wow Apple, you sound about as tone deaf and out of touch as American Democrats.

Hope both of you go the way of the carrier pigeon.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2021 03:47 AM (EIFTC)

28 There you go again, ignoring the hermaphugs! How many times I gotta tell you to pay attention to the hermaphugs?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 05, 2021 03:43 AM (+aiYj)

I beg your pardon but the doohickey on my hermaphug burned out so I had to fire up the thingamajig. Lets hope the fetzer valve holds!!!

Posted by: Somewhere South of I-80 at November 05, 2021 03:52 AM (Ocv6A)

29 Hiya, JT!

Bought mine at wallyworld, but you can get them from A**zon also.

Alcatel "MyFlip2"

Cheaper at wallyworld, IF they have in stock. Checked several times before actually getting one!

Posted by: JQ at November 05, 2021 03:55 AM (dB4Iz)

30 "Hermaphug"? Never heard that before. Is that like a hermaphrodite on drugs?

Mornin', all. Up early, but not early enough to smoke a pre-breakfast pipe. Thus I sit here with coffee and the purring but still ailing Codger Cat Chekov. One more weekday to struggle through. Though I have a long string of errands to deal with tomorrow, at least some of my time will be my own. Early voting for mayor of my dump ends tomorrow, and I may not make it to the courthouse; so next Saturday I'll have to head to my regular polling place, early.

When did weekends get to be so unrelaxing? Is this what being a grownup is like? Not sure I like this. Can I stop now?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 05, 2021 03:57 AM (c6xtn)

31 Thanks JQ !

Posted by: JT at November 05, 2021 03:59 AM (arJlL)

32 Good morning morons

I would much rather be sleeping but this is also the only time I ever get that's peaceful.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 05, 2021 04:00 AM (EZebt)

33 Phone? Oh, yeah. Got to pick up a $20 Tracfone card for another 3 months' worth of airtime. On the good side, I intend to pay off the Buick this month, almost 2 years early, and drive the big red beast sans car note. The money can go into the bank, or I can divert it into my pension/retirement fund. My contributions are matched at least partly by my employer. I hope it will all be worth something by the time I retire -- which I am thinking should be next June.

Maybe.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 05, 2021 04:02 AM (c6xtn)

34 Good morning morons

I would much rather be sleeping but this is also the only time I ever get that's peaceful.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 05, 2021

***
Exactly. It's like . . . having the world to yourself.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 05, 2021 04:03 AM (c6xtn)

35 Wow. Per zero hedge. Italy health institute reduces number of covid deaths by 97 percent by drawing a common sense distinction between deaths from covid and deaths with covid. Now the covid death rates are lower than the seasonal flu. As we all suspected

Posted by: LASue at November 05, 2021 04:03 AM (Ed8Zd)

36 You're welcome JT!

The thing is Wi-Fi capable. Decent camera, video capable... I dunno how it compares to a "real smartphone" but it's affordable.

*shrugs*

Posted by: JQ at November 05, 2021 04:04 AM (dB4Iz)

37
Carlin (Save the Bees):

The planet "dealing with the threat" includes dealing with you, too, Smuggy McSmugface.

Why is it that these prognosticators of doom think that they are immune from the doom they so fervently wish upon others?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 05, 2021 04:04 AM (+aiYj)

38
Psych test: food, clothing, or shelter? Pick one.
Posted by: SFGoth at November 05, 2021 02:41 AM (KAi1n)

----------

Coffee

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 05, 2021 04:05 AM (/U27+)

39 When did weekends get to be so unrelaxing? Is this what being a grownup is like? Not sure I like this. Can I stop now?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Wait till Mardi Gras!

I'll bring a million of my drunk out of town friends!

Posted by: Miklos, adhering to tradition at November 05, 2021 04:07 AM (QzkSJ)

40 Welp, appointment ~~tomorrow~~ later this morning...

G'night, horde! Sleep well!

Posted by: JQ at November 05, 2021 04:07 AM (dB4Iz)

41
Interesting video up at GP how the touch screen on a voting machine wouldn't permit a vote for the (R) candidate for Governor. It would except a vote for the (D).

Those rascally rascals.

valid_choice=D

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus, Vaccine and Massage Parlor at November 05, 2021 04:12 AM (dQvv7)

42 Interesting video up at GP how the touch screen on a voting machine wouldn't permit a vote for the (R) candidate for Governor. It would except a vote for the (D).

Those rascally rascals.

valid_choice=D
Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus,

It's New Jersey, America's most corruption-free state. No worries, mate.

Posted by: Miklos, citing CNN at November 05, 2021 04:14 AM (QzkSJ)

43 The vermin of Portland can add another piece of history destroyed to their scoreboard.

The retired US Coast Guard 125ft cutter Alert which had been moored near the I-5 bridge and was a museum ship sank Sunday. The ship had been closed for the past year and a squatters camp moved aboard.

Not all details are clear or the exact cause of the sinking. But being abandoned for a year and having squatters defacing and stripping the ship probably have something to do with it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2021 04:14 AM (EIFTC)

44 https://legalinsurrection.com/san-francisco 5-11 year olds will show covid vaccine cards to access businesses

It was obvious as soon as kids could be Fake Vax they would e required

Posted by: Skip at November 05, 2021 04:15 AM (2JoB8)

45 Wolfus, your cat seems like he rarely leaves you alone. At some point my crotchety old doggeh will kick the door down and demand I pick him up for some couch time.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 05, 2021 04:17 AM (EZebt)

46 https://legalinsurrection.com/san-francisco 5-11 year olds will show covid vaccine cards to access businesses

It was obvious as soon as kids could be Fake Vax they would e required
Posted by: Skip

But nobody in SanFran has children, other than illegals

Posted by: Miklos, citing sources at November 05, 2021 04:18 AM (QzkSJ)

47 https://reason.com/the details of oshas vaccination-order for private employees suggest several ways it could be vulnerable to legal challenges
https://tinyurl.com/dujmxut8

Posted by: Skip at November 05, 2021 04:20 AM (2JoB8)

48 A harem anime of a different isekai flavour

https://youtu.be/u0rfZS13e_o

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2021 04:21 AM (EIFTC)

49 Anytime it's a free for all destruction will happen, a little surprised they even managed sinking a ship but that is now just the new low bar to get over.

Posted by: Skip at November 05, 2021 04:22 AM (2JoB8)

50 It was obvious as soon as kids could be Fake Vax they would e required
Posted by: Skip at November 05, 2021 04:15 AM (2JoB

===
I informed Mrs. F. and Girl F. yesterday on hearing this that I am not going to miss this sh*thole when I'm gone. I will have no regrets and will not look back. I'm counting every damn day.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 05, 2021 04:23 AM (EZebt)

51
I will have no regrets and will not look back.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 05, 2021 04:23 AM

Good advice.

Posted by: Lot's Wife at November 05, 2021 04:25 AM (dQvv7)

52 Don't be like Lot's wife and turn to give that final look of goodbye

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2021 04:26 AM (EIFTC)

53 Skip

The only news article on the sinking that pops up on first page is written to make it seem the ship was just there abandoned and sank. No mention of it being a museum ship or that squatters were aboard.

If I hadn't stumbled across a museum ship news update on YouTube, would not know about that.

So yeah the local media can go and well die in a fire also.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2021 04:29 AM (EIFTC)

54 But nobody in SanFran has children, other than illegals
Posted by: Miklos, citing sources at November 05, 2021 04:18 AM (QzkSJ)
===
True. I had children but they done growed up.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 05, 2021 04:29 AM (EZebt)

55 Heading out, at least it's Friday

Posted by: Skip at November 05, 2021 04:30 AM (2JoB8)

56
I remember visiting San Fran on my honeymoon before flying off to Hawaii. First cab ride of my life, as I was from the 'burbs. Chatting with cabbie I asked about the Hollywood portrayal of cab drivers delivering babies in the back seat, and did it ever happen to him?

He was like... "In this town, you kidding? It's all f_ggots. There is no birth rate here."

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus, Vaccine and Massage Parlor at November 05, 2021 04:37 AM (dQvv7)

57 olfus, your cat seems like he rarely leaves you alone. At some point my crotchety old doggeh will kick the door down and demand I pick him up for some couch time.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 05, 2021

***
Not really. Chekov used to be a lap cat, as long as I put the couch cushion on my lap. He'd hop on me and stay a while, leave, then repeat, several times a night, and sit in the living room in between. Now he spends most of his time on the floor in the bedroom. Mornings, though, I often wake now to find him in the living room, and he stays and purrs while I drink my coffee.

Until I feed him. Then, back to the other room.

The late big black cat Wolf was occasionally a lap cat, but he sat more often than not on the arm of the sofa right near me.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at November 05, 2021 04:37 AM (c6xtn)

58 Key West
Key Largo
Key Lime Pie
and ... I forget
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot

Ketosis

Posted by: SFGoth at November 05, 2021 04:39 AM (KAi1n)

59
Ketamine!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 05, 2021 04:42 AM (+aiYj)

60 Psycho, when are you leaving and for where?

Posted by: SFGoth at November 05, 2021 04:46 AM (KAi1n)

61
The retired US Coast Guard 125ft cutter Alert which had been moored near the I-5 bridge and was a museum ship sank Sunday. The ship had been closed for the past year and a squatters camp moved aboard.

Not all details are clear or the exact cause of the sinking. But being abandoned for a year and having squatters defacing and stripping the ship probably have something to do with it.
Posted by: Anna Puma

It may have been something that I heard about here - there is a video that showed a neighborhood playground for kids, closed Lo! these many months because of the coof, had become a refuge for homeless street refuse.

Or, in the vernacular of Berkeley, "romantic street people".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 05, 2021 04:47 AM (+aiYj)

62 Oh, gee. Another daylight murder on Haight St. oh, well. Good thing the mayor is focused on consolidating personal power and regimenting our daily lives.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 05, 2021 04:47 AM (EZebt)

63 Haight is Love! Groovy baby!

Posted by: Common Tater at November 05, 2021 04:49 AM (F0aU4)

64 It's the place to commit a Haight crime.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 05, 2021 04:50 AM (KAi1n)

65 Ketamine!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)

Based K-Hole Enjoyer.

Posted by: Widespread Pepe at November 05, 2021 04:51 AM (OLxvn)

66 K-hole is not a term i expected to read here.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 05, 2021 04:55 AM (KAi1n)

67
I thought everyone walked around San Francisco with a flower in their hair and a peace sign around their neck.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus, Vaccine and Massage Parlor at November 05, 2021 04:58 AM (dQvv7)

68 Neighbor when Mrs. F.'s mom and dad are of blessed memory we are headed to someplace red with a mild climate because Mrs. F. is a native and cannot tolerate weather. Any weather.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 05, 2021 04:58 AM (EZebt)

69 I thought everyone walked around San Francisco with a flower in their hair and a peace sign around their neck.
Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus, Vaccine and Massage Parlor at November 05, 2021 04:58 AM (dQvv7)
===
Yeah, I'm not with them.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 05, 2021 04:59 AM (EZebt)

70 There are a lot of parents who can't wait to inject this completely new chemical into their children.

In fairness, they're told it's the same chemical and just a lower dosage of the one adults have been using.

Interestingly, one of the new additives is a chemical to stabilize heart attack victims.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the vax for kids is brand new and never tested, good luck kids, see p14 at November 05, 2021 05:00 AM (i/z3O)

71 Where does a red place have a mild climate?

Posted by: SFGoth at November 05, 2021 05:00 AM (KAi1n)

72
Where does a red place have a mild climate?

Posted by: SFGoth at November 05, 2021 05:00 AM

If you like coastal, both North and South Carolina are really nice. The might have a week or two of 'winter' every year.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus, Vaccine and Massage Parlor at November 05, 2021 05:05 AM (dQvv7)

73 They also have hot, humid summers. I grew up in Va.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 05, 2021 05:08 AM (KAi1n)

74 *checks news reports*

Yep, world still completely fooked. Is going back to bed a viable option?

Posted by: Common Tater at November 05, 2021 05:14 AM (F0aU4)

75
Inland vs coastal are two different things. A lot more air movement near the coast. The Gulf stream moderates temperatures in the winter. Of course, hurricanes are a thing.

Come to think of it, I guess hurricane season is pretty much over. All the predictions of 100's of them did not happen. Though Ida was a pain in the ass, even here in PA.

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus, Vaccine and Massage Parlor at November 05, 2021 05:15 AM (dQvv7)

76 My preference is back East but my mom and sister are in Portland, so likely to wind up in northern Arizona although I'm partial to Couer dAlene

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 05, 2021 05:21 AM (EZebt)

77
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 05, 2021 05:21 AM (DUIap)

78 A large number of hurricanes in a year is proof of global warming

A small number of hurricanes in a year is proof of global warming.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 05, 2021 05:34 AM (G2zl5)

79 Morning, Tech Peeps

Posted by: fluffy at November 05, 2021 05:36 AM (UnQlg)

80 Good news it's not a easy job.
Oh wait, that isn't good news is it?

Posted by: Skip's Phone at November 05, 2021 05:36 AM (ePOTY)

81 Heading out, at least it's Friday
Posted by: Skip

No bad blue tweets ? What a gyp !

Stay safe, Skip !

Posted by: JT at November 05, 2021 05:37 AM (arJlL)

82 Are people from Couer d'Alene referred to as Courdites?

Lie to me if you have to.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 05, 2021 05:39 AM (6FeV1)

83 Come to think of it, I guess hurricane season is pretty much over. All the predictions of 100's of them did not happen. Though Ida was a pain in the ass, even here in PA.
Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus, Vaccine and Massage Parlor

Sally was a good old girl and Ida was a pain in the ass !

Posted by: JT at November 05, 2021 05:40 AM (arJlL)

84 Interestingly, one of the new additives is a chemical to stabilize heart attack victims.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - the vax for kids is brand new and never tested, good luck kids, see p14 at November 05, 2021 05:00 AM (i/z3O)

Awww, turns out they really don't want the zeks' hearts exploding... what thoroughly decent people.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 05, 2021 05:41 AM (6FeV1)

85 64 It's the place to commit a Haight crime.
Posted by: SFGoth at November 05, 2021 04:50 AM (KAi1n)

nice

Posted by: m at November 05, 2021 05:43 AM (TZgEk)

86 I am glad to know that "I'm sure it'll be fine" is the new standard for pharmaceutical regulation.

Can every drug not cleared by the FDA now sue the pants off them?

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 05, 2021 05:43 AM (6FeV1)

87 It's the place to commit a Haight crime.
Posted by: SFGoth at November 05, 2021 04:50 AM (KAi1n)

nice
Posted by: m at November 05, 2021 05:43 AM (TZgEk)

They will bury your ass.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 05, 2021 05:44 AM (6FeV1)

88 71 Where does a red place have a mild climate?
Posted by: SFGoth at November 05, 2021 05:00 AM (KAi1n)

Tennesssee

Posted by: m at November 05, 2021 05:45 AM (TZgEk)

89 I am glad to know that "I'm sure it'll be fine" is the new standard for pharmaceutical regulation.

Can every drug not cleared by the FDA now sue the pants off them?
Posted by: Warai-otoko

If they sue the pants off Brandon, the shit will hit the fan.

Posted by: JT at November 05, 2021 05:46 AM (arJlL)

90 Where does a red place have a mild climate?
Posted by: SFGoth at November 05, 2021 05:00 AM (KAi1n)

Tennesssee
Posted by: m

Given the current inflation rate, soon to be named Twevessee

Posted by: JT at November 05, 2021 05:49 AM (arJlL)

91
Remember the adage regarding "free" services: if you aren't paying, then you aren't the customer.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 05, 2021 05:49 AM (+aiYj)

92 Given the current inflation rate, soon to be named Twevessee
Posted by: JT at November 05, 2021 05:49 AM (arJlL)

They ain't gonna be volunteering for much, that's for sure

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 05, 2021 05:50 AM (6FeV1)

93 Good morning all!!!

It's Friday, it's Friday!

*twirls*

Puppy graduated from puppy class last night. She's a genius!

Posted by: Rosasharn at November 05, 2021 05:51 AM (yEBFM)

94 87 It's the place to commit a Haight crime.
Posted by: SFGoth at November 05, 2021 04:50 AM (KAi1n)

nice
Posted by: m at November 05, 2021 05:43 AM (TZgEk)

They will bury your ass.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 05, 2021 05:44 AM (6FeV1)

Your ash?

Posted by: m at November 05, 2021 05:52 AM (TZgEk)

95 There is a Bad Blue from last night and saw it then so forgot..

Posted by: Skip's Phone at November 05, 2021 05:53 AM (ePOTY)

96 Way back during the 82 Worlds fair, I was working on a parking lot in Knoxville TN and had a conversation with a fellow from San Francisco in which he pointed out that our hills were nothing compared to those in San Fran. ( which I later learned was true), so fatigue was not going to be an issue. He returned earlier than he expected, broken and exhausted. The humidity got him and no salty breezes to be found.

We do have seagulls, though.

Posted by: Button Pushing Monkey at November 05, 2021 05:53 AM (EcHpA)

97 mornin yall. Yesterday the Sheriff's office here told people not to believe unfounded rumors of two attempted abductions in the area.

Today we get this retarded statement from the Sheriff:

"The information that was given out about the vehicle and the suspects were kind of very similar, so he made the correct decision that this is probably going to be involving the same people based on what he heard"

Posted by: f'd at November 05, 2021 05:54 AM (Tnijr)

98 Remember the adage regarding "free" services: if you aren't paying, then you aren't the customer.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)

Minnie the Moocher

Posted by: JT at November 05, 2021 05:54 AM (arJlL)

99 Your ash?
Posted by: m at November 05, 2021 05:52 AM (TZgEk)

Yesh.

Posted by: Sean Connery at November 05, 2021 05:54 AM (6FeV1)

100 PoliMath has recently moved from--I forget: Seattle?--to Chattanooga and loves it. Occasionally waxes poetic about it.

@politicalmath

Posted by: m at November 05, 2021 05:55 AM (TZgEk)

101 100

Posted by: fluffy at November 05, 2021 05:55 AM (UnQlg)

102 I am glad to know that "I'm sure it'll be fine" is the new standard for pharmaceutical regulation.

LOL!

Yeah, it seems to be the new standard for everything for everything. Aircraft maintenance, removing police from schools, economics, choose your own adventure girls bathrooms in schools, meh, "whatever".

They've managed to chemically or neuro-lobotomize much of the population. They've no idea what's coming, and they wouldn't care if they did.

Posted by: Common Tater at November 05, 2021 05:55 AM (F0aU4)

103 Tradition.

Posted by: fluffy at November 05, 2021 05:55 AM (UnQlg)

104 Hiya Rosasharn !

Posted by: JT at November 05, 2021 05:56 AM (arJlL)

105 PoliMath has recently moved from--I forget: Seattle?--to Chattanooga and loves it. Occasionally waxes poetic about it.

@politicalmath
Posted by: m

They can occasionally wax my car !

Posted by: JT at November 05, 2021 05:58 AM (arJlL)

106 "84 Interestingly, one of the new additives is a chemical to stabilize heart attack victims.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - the vax for kids is brand new and never tested, good luck kids, see p14 at November 05, 2021 05:00 AM (i/z3O)

Awww, turns out they really don't want the zeks' hearts exploding... what thoroughly decent people.

Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 05, 2021 05:41 AM (6FeV1) "

bad optics if the injectee just dies on the spot; this buys a few hours for the causality to be blurred and the death to happen elsewhere.

g'mornin' everyone !

TGIF !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (ahosz) at November 05, 2021 06:01 AM (ahosz)

107 Hey! My Build Back Better plan is only going to cost $2.42, cheaper than a gallon of gas. I am not kidding. You will spend more on a turkey than we will spend on BBB. No joke. Even a little turkey. My word as a Biteum.

Posted by: Joe Biteum at November 05, 2021 06:02 AM (Tnijr)

108 I was dreaming last night of 1.99 gas even here in upstate NY. Wasn't that long ago, but in Biden years, it was in the olden days. Are Biden years longer that a dog year.

Posted by: Colin at November 05, 2021 06:03 AM (qcGgI)

109 congrats to you & the genius-puppy, Rosasharn !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (ahosz) at November 05, 2021 06:04 AM (ahosz)

110 I was dreaming last night of 1.99 gas even here in upstate NY. Wasn't that long ago, but in Biden years, it was in the olden days. Are Biden years longer that a dog year.
Posted by: Colin

Mebbe; his turds are longer than a dog turd.

Posted by: JT at November 05, 2021 06:05 AM (arJlL)

111 Yeah, it was Seattle that he moved from. And here's a recent remark about his life in Chattanooga.

PoliMath
@politicalmath
Oct 30
I moved to Tennessee in August

Since then, I've bought a stupidly large house with a pool, spent much more time with my family, and vastly improved my ability to appreciate art both digital and physical.

All I need to do is get off twitter and things would be perfect

https://tinyurl.com/m6xk5dek

Posted by: m at November 05, 2021 06:07 AM (TZgEk)

112 Hi JT!

Thanks sock_rat!

Can you all tell I really love Fridays?

Posted by: Rosasharn at November 05, 2021 06:07 AM (yEBFM)

113 "102 I am glad to know that "I'm sure it'll be fine" is the new standard for pharmaceutical regulation.

LOL!

Yeah, it seems to be the new standard for everything for everything. Aircraft maintenance, removing police from schools, economics, choose your own adventure girls bathrooms in schools, meh, "whatever". "

sad but true.

i'm'a go get a cuppa coffee ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez (ahosz) at November 05, 2021 06:09 AM (ahosz)

114 All I need to do is get off twitter and things would be perfect

https://tinyurl.com/m6xk5dek
Posted by: m

Say something nice about Trump and they'll kick you pff '
!

Posted by: JT at November 05, 2021 06:10 AM (arJlL)

115 Atlanta will shut down today for a parade for a baseball team or something. Don't go into Atlanta.

Actually, that's good advice any day.

Posted by: f'd at November 05, 2021 06:11 AM (Tnijr)

116 Michael Knowles
@michaeljknowles
20h
So weird how the Biden administration waited until two days after the VA and NJ elections to drop their vaccine mandate rules. Almost as if they know it's extremely unpopular!

Posted by: m at November 05, 2021 06:12 AM (TZgEk)

117 I like the twirling on Fridays even though I'm 24/7

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 05, 2021 06:17 AM (EZebt)

118 hilarious, Intel has become the FX 9590 version of AMD....

"MOARPOWAH!"

I think Zen4 coupled with good DDR5 will be just fine.

Posted by: sven at November 05, 2021 06:17 AM (Lzpvj)

119 116 Posted by: m at November 05, 2021 06:12 AM (TZgEk)

Vaccine mandates, going after Michael Landon....

the left was reminded gently "no means no mommy" an they are of course doubling down rather than stopping.

Posted by: sven at November 05, 2021 06:18 AM (Lzpvj)

120 Good morning, Hordelings! Brisk mid-fall temps here in the mid-Atlantic.

Posted by: Doof at November 05, 2021 06:19 AM (mZUr4)

121 So weird how the Biden administration waited until two days after the VA and NJ elections to drop their vaccine mandate rules. Almost as if they know it's extremely unpopular!

--

Cabbage Patch Joe said just the opposite a day or so ago. Americans are wildly supportive of mandating the injection of "emergency" chemicals into one's body against their will for fear of losing their jobs on an illness with .03% fatality.

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 05, 2021 06:20 AM (sVtYq)

122 Vaccine mandates, going after Michael Landon....

I thought he was dead ?

Posted by: JT at November 05, 2021 06:21 AM (arJlL)

123 Daily Mail claims in big headline about Durr that he has:

"Racist, Islamophobic, transphobic and anti-Semitic posts"

Except the posts they list are nothing like that. I get the feeling they don't like Durr.

Posted by: f'd at November 05, 2021 06:21 AM (Tnijr)

124 Good morning, Hordelings! Brisk mid-fall temps here in the mid-Atlantic.
Posted by: Doof

Are you on a boat ?

Posted by: JT at November 05, 2021 06:21 AM (arJlL)

125 Vaccine mandates, going after Michael Landon....

I thought he was dead ?
Posted by: JT at November 05, 2021 06:21 AM (arJlL)

Let's go, Landon!

Posted by: Doof at November 05, 2021 06:22 AM (mZUr4)

126 Good morning, Hordelings! Brisk mid-fall temps here in the mid-Atlantic.
Posted by: Doof

Are you on a boat ?
Posted by: JT at November 05, 2021 06:21 AM (arJlL)

Early morning swim

Posted by: Doof at November 05, 2021 06:22 AM (mZUr4)

127 Daily Mail claims in big headline about Durr that he has:

"Racist, Islamophobic, transphobic and anti-Semitic posts"

In other words, just a normal. How dare he not support everyone's mental illnesses! *flounce!*

Posted by: Rosasharn at November 05, 2021 06:23 AM (yEBFM)

128 Boker Tov Patriots

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 05, 2021 06:23 AM (GPwVZ)

129 122 Posted by: JT at November 05, 2021 06:21 AM (arJlL)

Pa Ingalls has been dead since before the Clinton admin....

no bar to calumnying his name now though....

They will as always double down so YES ALL WOMEN TO INFINITY AND BEYOND!

Posted by: sven at November 05, 2021 06:24 AM (Lzpvj)

130 Good morning, Hordelings! Brisk mid-fall temps here in the mid-Atlantic.
Posted by: Doof

Are you on a boat ?
Posted by: JT at November 05, 2021 06:21 AM (arJlL)

Early morning swim
Posted by: Doof

Jaws wasn't just a movie !

Posted by: JT at November 05, 2021 06:24 AM (arJlL)

131 Hiya Cap'n !

Posted by: JT at November 05, 2021 06:24 AM (arJlL)

132 I'll decide who's an anti Semite!

Posted by: zombie Hermann Goering at November 05, 2021 06:25 AM (EZebt)

133 Good morning!

Let's smile & be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Late start. But good dreams.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 05, 2021 06:25 AM (u82oZ)

134 That replacement press sec they have for Psaki is one smooth liar. No snark, just straight up lies.

Posted by: f'd at November 05, 2021 06:25 AM (Tnijr)

135 Have a great day, everyone.

Time to enjoy life, and crush the sanctimonious upper-class twits.

Posted by: NaCly Dog (u82oZ) at November 05, 2021 06:26 AM (u82oZ)

136 Hey there, Salty. Appreciate your positive advice every day!

Posted by: Doof at November 05, 2021 06:26 AM (mZUr4)

137 Funny how waaay over in the UK, a little ole truck driver who won an election in the states is already a target of their smears. Why should they care again....?

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 05, 2021 06:26 AM (sVtYq)

138 121 Posted by: Lady in Black at November 05, 2021 06:20 AM (sVtYq)

You understand "the maths" our ability to risk factor will land us in camps.

Likely a real CDC conversation.

"The Chinese did a good job but the performance is low it is only .03% lethal."

//ANthony F

"Well we could always make a more lethal vaccine."

//Dr D.I. Pshit

Posted by: sven at November 05, 2021 06:26 AM (Lzpvj)

139 I thought everyone walked around San Francisco with a flower in their hair and a peace sign around their neck.

--

We went on a day trip on our honeymoon from Tahoe and drove to SanFran one day. It was over 28 years ago, but I wanted to see Haight-Ashbury, among other things. It was a filthy pesthole. We never even got out of the car. Lombard St. was simply beautiful though!

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 05, 2021 06:28 AM (sVtYq)

140 That replacement press sec they have for Psaki is one smooth liar. No snark, just straight up lies.
Posted by: f'd at November 05, 2021 06:25 AM (Tnijr)

The snark makes me SLIGHTLY respectful of someone in that position, regardless of which party holds the WH. Everyone knows that person is lying - or at least stretching the truth. Adding snark shows that they enjoy what they do.

Posted by: Doof at November 05, 2021 06:29 AM (mZUr4)

141 Good morning Hordelings, from the lovely town of Kenosha, yet to be burned.

Posted by: grammie winger at November 05, 2021 06:34 AM (45fpk)

142 Good morning Hordelings, from the lovely town of Kenosha, yet to be burned.
Posted by: grammie winger at November 05, 2021 06:34 AM (45fpk)

Good morning, grammie

Posted by: Doof at November 05, 2021 06:35 AM (mZUr4)

143 That replacement press sec they have for Psaki is one smooth liar. No snark, just straight up lies.

Posted by: f'd at November 05, 2021 06:25 AM

The snark makes me SLIGHTLY respectful of someone in that position, regardless of which party holds the WH. Everyone knows that person is lying - or at least stretching the truth. Adding snark shows that they enjoy what they do.

Posted by: Doof at November 05, 2021 06:29 AM

Circle Back Jen makes me look better & better every time she speaks

Posted by: Robert Gibbs at November 05, 2021 06:36 AM (DUIap)

144 G'morning, all.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice. Asymptomatic raycist at November 05, 2021 06:37 AM (3D/fK)

145 Hiya Doof

Posted by: grammie winger at November 05, 2021 06:37 AM (45fpk)

146 143 Posted by: Robert Gibbs at November 05, 2021 06:36 AM (DUIap)

I particularly enjoyed your ramblings on Ogabecare Bob....

Posted by: sven at November 05, 2021 06:37 AM (Lzpvj)

147 Yo, VIA!!

Posted by: Doof at November 05, 2021 06:39 AM (mZUr4)

148 in sven TMI news...

Condition longjohns has been reached, say again the long wool has been deployed....

Posted by: sven at November 05, 2021 06:39 AM (Lzpvj)

149 grammie, you've got incompetent DAs too!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 05, 2021 06:39 AM (EZebt)

150 Circle Back Jen makes me look better & better every time she speaks
Posted by: Robert Gibbs at November 05, 2021 06:36 AM (DUIap)

She doesn't even need to speak to make me look better

Posted by: Kayleigh McEneny at November 05, 2021 06:40 AM (mZUr4)

151 grammie, you've got incompetent DAs too!

Posted by: San Franpsycho at November 05, 2021 06:39 AM (EZebt)

I know! Ain't it grand?

Posted by: grammie winger at November 05, 2021 06:41 AM (45fpk)

152 Condition longjohns has been reached, say again the long wool has been deployed....
Posted by: sven at November 05, 2021 06:39 AM (Lzpvj)
--

It's Linsey-Woolsey Britches Weather!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at November 05, 2021 06:41 AM (Dc2NZ)

153 150 Posted by: Kayleigh McEneny at November 05, 2021 06:40 AM (mZUr4)

.....QFT

Posted by: sven at November 05, 2021 06:41 AM (Lzpvj)

154 JJ nood!

Posted by: Rosasharn at November 05, 2021 06:42 AM (yEBFM)

155 Nood -- JJ

Posted by: Doof at November 05, 2021 06:43 AM (mZUr4)

156 Bold, slanty nood!

Posted by: I used to have a different nic, member - Ashli Babbitt Society at November 05, 2021 06:43 AM (U7wke)

157 https://tinyurl.com/k53mu28r

Alyssa Milano "opens up" about how giving birth reminded her of a sexual assault...

our moral and social betters ladies and gents

Posted by: sven at November 05, 2021 06:44 AM (Lzpvj)

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Thanks! Yup, I can see why Pixy calls them essential.

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