In-N-Out vs. Newsom And The Progressive Juggernaut: My Money's On The Burger Joint!

That Gavin Newsom is a sleazy, scummy, authoritarian functionary who failed upward to become the governor of California is not news. And his political philosophy: cronyism combined with heavy-handed nanny-state intrusions is similarly well known.

But here he demonstrates a relatively new and profoundly disgusting tactic. Instead of recognizing that as governor he could easily push a preemption of local ordinances through the complaint state legislature, he chooses to be a passive observer of events that he pretends are out of his control. Just like the mush-brained senile retard in the oval office begging OPEC to increase production, because after all, he doesn't have any control over the rapidly climbing price of oil!

Newsom Responds To In-N-Out's Refusal To Monitor Customer Vaccination Status

He referenced a few years ago when the company “doubled down on their commitment” to California, so he said he wanted to “double down” on his commitment to the chain, while acknowledging the existence of differences of opinion “as it relates to some of these county edicts,” noting “we have to work through them.”
He added, "... there's been thousands of examples like this, some get highlighted, some don't. In this instance, there's an East Bay chain that there's a little bit more friction and frustration, [in] San Francisco, there was a week or so ago."

He is pretending to be some sort of state-level statesman, but a casual reading of his statement will reveal not only a tenuous grasp of proper English grammar, but also a statement devoid of any substance. He is a passive observer of events beyond his control, even though he is the governor!

In-N-Out Burger has a powerful response to what they correctly identify as overt fascism and disgusting intrusion into the private sector.

"We fiercely disagree with any government dictate that forces a private company to discriminate against customers who choose to patronize their business," the statement said. "This is clear governmental overreach and is intrusive, improper, and offensive."

That's how it is done. In-N-Out has a coherent corporate policy and will not be bullied by the junior Nazis in county and city governments, or their apologist in the governor's mansion.

Too few American corporations are willing to push back against the orthodoxy of passive compliance with government edicts, or in many cases active participation in the worst excesses of progressive social engineering.

In-N-Out stands apart from the herd, and I applaud them for it. I, and I hope many others will reward them for their principled stance by spending money in their restaurants!

Posted by: CBD at 12:00 PM

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1 Happy Halloween!

Posted by: Spook Lowell at October 31, 2021 11:00 AM (kTF2Z)

2 Boo!

Posted by: boo-bell at October 31, 2021 11:00 AM (wyw4S)

3 I'll fetch em

Posted by: Skipjack the Ripper at October 31, 2021 11:00 AM (2JoB8)

4 I nooded.

Posted by: Spook Lowell at October 31, 2021 11:01 AM (kTF2Z)

5 Repeat: Nut dressed as the Joker armed with a knife starts a fire on Tokyo subway train; 15 injured.

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/
1454824309952757765

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 31, 2021 11:02 AM (UHVv4)

6 Good for In-N-Out. I hope more companies will follow their example. Also see Intel.

Posted by: boo-bell at October 31, 2021 11:03 AM (wyw4S)

7 Even the MFM having to admit Biden's crash "for now".

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/
1454833540886114304

Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 31, 2021 11:03 AM (UHVv4)

8 In the tug of war right now Leftifornia has the biggest pull

Posted by: Skipjack the Ripper at October 31, 2021 11:04 AM (2JoB8)

9 andycanuck, we need to fix you up with a Halloween nic.

Posted by: boo-bell at October 31, 2021 11:04 AM (wyw4S)

10 Every week, there is some new reason to be glad I left CA for AZ. And there's even an In-N-Out here, not far from me.

I would like to denounce my own delight in the trending of the Twitter hashtag #PoopyPantsBiden.

Posted by: Splunge at October 31, 2021 11:05 AM (R+A4V)

11 Newsom's my former mayor. Harris, my former DA. If i hadn't switched from alcohol to marijuana years ago, i'd be dead.

Posted by: SFHippy at October 31, 2021 11:05 AM (KAi1n)

12 candycanuck! Not scary, just appropriately Halloweenish.

Posted by: boo-bell at October 31, 2021 11:05 AM (wyw4S)

13 I love me some animal fries.

F Newsom and Joe Biden.

They are dicks.

Posted by: Czech Chick at October 31, 2021 11:05 AM (a2Bpc)

14 In N Out and Chick Fil a used to be cut from the same cloth.

And then Chick Fil A decided to bend the knee and betray those that supported her.

Posted by: Just a side note at October 31, 2021 11:06 AM (2DOZq)

15 I will wear masks forever, to demonstrate that I am morally superior to you.

Posted by: Democrats! at October 31, 2021 11:06 AM (I2/tG)

16 Okay. I guess.

Posted by: candycanuck (UHVv4) at October 31, 2021 11:07 AM (UHVv4)

17 I would like to denounce my own delight in the trending of the Twitter hashtag #PoopyPantsBiden.

Oops, I did it again!

Posted by: Droolin' Joe Biden! at October 31, 2021 11:08 AM (I2/tG)

18 I would if I could frequent In-N-Out for standing up

Posted by: Skipjack the Ripper at October 31, 2021 11:08 AM (2JoB8)

19 Did you see the In-n-Out cup with "Let's Go Brandon!" on it?

https://bit.ly/3pNgBe1

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 31, 2021 11:08 AM (Do5/p)

20 CandymanCanuck would be scary. Say it three times and he'll appear and be very polite.

Posted by: Spook Lowell at October 31, 2021 11:08 AM (kTF2Z)

21 Now i'm hungry. Dang. Made a pot of refried beans, corn, tomatoes, peas, onions, spinach, garlic, and cheese last night. Still got half left. No i-n-o near me.

Posted by: SFHippy at October 31, 2021 11:08 AM (KAi1n)

22 Nancy Boy Newsom loves him the old In And Out....

The proper response to any commie dictate is "Go Fuck Your Mother".

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 31, 2021 11:10 AM (R/m4+)

23 Did you see the In-n-Out cup with "Let's Go Brandon!" on it?

https://bit.ly/3pNgBe1
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 31, 2021 11:08 AM (Do5/p)

That is friggin' awesome!!!

Posted by: Digoblins at October 31, 2021 11:10 AM (axyOa)

24 Sorry to comment and run but I'm dying for a snooze!

Posted by: candycanuck (UHVv4) at October 31, 2021 11:10 AM (UHVv4)

25 Sorry to comment and run but I'm dying for a snooze!
Posted by: candycanuck (UHVv4) at October 31, 2021 11:10 AM (UHVv4)
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Sugar crash, eh.

Posted by: boo-bell at October 31, 2021 11:11 AM (wyw4S)

26 Is In-N-Out kind of like Five Guys?

Posted by: olddog in mizzery at October 31, 2021 11:15 AM (ju2Fy)

27 Testing

Posted by: Justsayin' at October 31, 2021 11:15 AM (Fs5vw)

28 Sadly, there are no In-N-Outs any where near Omaha. Otherwise, I would be supporting them 100%. Ever since their big cave, I've stopped going out of my way to get the occasional Chick-Fil-A.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- Bitterly clinging to the deplorable life at October 31, 2021 11:15 AM (ZFIBc)

29 Be nice if a corporation would say something similar, like "governments who force businesses to mandate a medical procedure on unwilling but loyal employees"

Posted by: Mr Gaga at October 31, 2021 11:16 AM (4ZE6o)

30 Is In-N-Out kind of like Five Guys?
Posted by: olddog in mizzery at October 31, 2021 11:15 AM (ju2Fy)

Not at all. They're simple fresh good tasting burgers and excellent fries.

Posted by: Zombie Napoleon XIV at October 31, 2021 11:16 AM (AiZBA)

31 Not at all. They're simple fresh good tasting burgers and excellent fries.
Posted by: Zombie Napoleon XIV at October 31, 2021 11:16 AM (AiZBA)

With bible quotes on their containers.

Posted by: I Was a Teenage WereJordan61 at October 31, 2021 11:17 AM (KgzRF)

32 Because they have remained a closely held private company, and avoided the publicly-traded corporate structure, they have been able to avoid assimilation by the hard Left.

It's not an iron rule, but close... If the company is selling shares to the public, they are probably a crony capitalist arm of the State and Party.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 31, 2021 11:17 AM (/KPLX)

33 The vaxx stuff is all about control as the things have a poor track record. They're part of the fascist money making experience/culture in the US. Now that we don't make much else and seek out slave labor.

Kid2 told me that a HS friend admitted to being a Uighur. We had no idea the family was muslim. Now his parents who went back for an extended family visit are not free to leave the country. And our corporations are happily dealing with the devil so that the rich can get richer.

Posted by: Sparkling CN- at October 31, 2021 11:17 AM (ONvIw)

34 Just saw a commercial for "get the jab ya lousy bastards.gov"

One woman talking to a younger woman. The younger woman is hesitant to get the jab because it might affect the her ability to get pregnant (nothing about the extra 80 pounds she's carrying)
Older woman, acknowledges her concerns, and replies that woman that are pregnant and get covid are more likely to lose the baby.

Now that's science! Also how to avoid actually answering questions.

Posted by: Booce at October 31, 2021 11:17 AM (vd8XM)

35 Super slow thread. Is everyone still downstairs bragging how literate they are?

Posted by: Justsayin' at October 31, 2021 11:18 AM (Fs5vw)

36 I'd love to get an In-N-Out burger, but in Colorado the drive through is about a 3 hour wait (seriously, they've routed the drive through a nearby parking garage).
I do a lot of work for these guys building new restaurants in CO. At first, I wasn't comfortable with it, it felt like more California invading Colorado. Now I have a totally different opinion of the company. They're willing to lose money to stand up for liberty- that takes balls.

Posted by: Tums Festival at October 31, 2021 11:20 AM (Uzh5E)

37
Even the MFM having to admit Biden's crash "for now".

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/
1454833540886114304
Posted by: andycanuck

Shockingly

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 31, 2021 11:20 AM (63Dwl)

38 There is so much crap out there about the china flu and the whole state of the union. I'm really trying to be positive, some days it's a tough road.

Posted by: Infidevil at October 31, 2021 11:21 AM (QC3yT)

39 If John Waters and Gavin Newsom had a transporter accident.

Posted by: All Hail Eris at October 31, 2021 11:21 AM (XItSe)

40 Never been to an In-N-Out. If I see one, i certainly will stop and try them out

Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 31, 2021 11:21 AM (Irn0L)

41 That is friggin' awesome!!!
Posted by: Digoblins at October 31, 2021 11:10 AM (axyOa)
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Fake news.

Posted by: Biden's Dog at October 31, 2021 11:21 AM (w2C3p)

42 I'm The Slime...Zappa...the xylophone is excellent.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at October 31, 2021 11:21 AM (Mb9aP)

43 37: Chuck Todd undoubtedly still adores resident Biden.

Posted by: Sparkling CN- at October 31, 2021 11:21 AM (ONvIw)

44 Is In-N-Out kind of like Five Guys?
Posted by: olddog in mizzery at October 31, 2021 11:15 AM (ju2Fy)

Well, In-N-Out have good hamburgers, so, no, they aren't like Five Guys.

Posted by: naturalfrankenstein at October 31, 2021 11:22 AM (5NkmN)

45 How was the reception for Trump at the WS last night?

Posted by: Spook Lowell at October 31, 2021 11:22 AM (kTF2Z)

46 35 Super slow thread. Is everyone still downstairs bragging how literate they are?
Posted by: Justsayin' at October 31, 2021 11:18 AM (Fs5vw)
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Not me. I proudly read pulp trash.

Posted by: All Howl Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at October 31, 2021 11:23 AM (XItSe)

47 No in and out in this part of the state. They are very good though.

Posted by: Infidevil at October 31, 2021 11:23 AM (QC3yT)

48 Never been to an In-N-Out. If I see one, i certainly will stop and try them out
Posted by: Nevergiveup at October 31, 2021 11:21 AM (Irn0L)

You won't regret it!

Posted by: I Was a Teenage WereJordan61 at October 31, 2021 11:23 AM (KgzRF)

49 How was the reception for Trump at the WS last night?
Posted by: Spook Lowell

Perfect. Gorilla Channel came in clear as a bell

Posted by: Booce at October 31, 2021 11:23 AM (vd8XM)

50 32 Because they have remained a closely held private company, and avoided the publicly-traded corporate structure, they have been able to avoid assimilation by the hard Left.

It's not an iron rule, but close... If the company is selling shares to the public, they are probably a crony capitalist arm of the State and Party.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 31, 2021 11:17 AM (/KPLX)

Going public always kills the business spirit. I've never understood why so many good businesses do it. It's basically selling your soul to NYC.

Posted by: Justsayin' at October 31, 2021 11:23 AM (Fs5vw)

51 How was the reception for Trump at the WS last night?
Posted by: Spook Lowell

He was doing The Chop with everyone.

Gonna lose the Injun vote now

Posted by: Booce at October 31, 2021 11:25 AM (vd8XM)

52 Super slow thread. Is everyone still downstairs bragging how literate they are?
Posted by: Justsayin' at October 31, 2021 11:18 AM (Fs5vw)
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Nah. I'm up here to brag about how literate I am.

Everybody up here still braggin' about how many hamburgers they can eat?

Posted by: naturalfrankenstein at October 31, 2021 11:25 AM (5NkmN)

53 Michael P Senger
at_MichaelPSenger

SNAKE OIL: HOW XI JINPING SHUT DOWN THE WORLD

Through propaganda and fraud, the CCP under Xi Jinping transformed the snake oil of lockdowns into "science," the greatest crime of the 21st century to date. This is the story of how he did it, and why. 1/

11:19 AM � Oct 31, 2021 - https://bit.ly/3BCYppS

Threadreaderapp Link: https://bit.ly/318kBeG

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 31, 2021 11:25 AM (Do5/p)

54 Their fries are... Different. Kinda of an acquired taste. Very fresh, kind of undercooked and under salted. You can ask for them to be crispy I believe.

Posted by: Max Power at October 31, 2021 11:26 AM (QCc6B)

55 Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 31, 2021 11:25 AM (Do5/p)

We mustn't let Fauci off the hook.

Posted by: Sparkling CN- at October 31, 2021 11:26 AM (ONvIw)

56 Lockdowns and masks go on forever until Fauci's career is destroyed.

Posted by: Sparkling CN- at October 31, 2021 11:27 AM (ONvIw)

57 Has anyone ordered from Muk Luks lately? I ordered some warm socks for gifts and after 3 weeks they still haven't shipped.

Posted by: Infidevil at October 31, 2021 11:27 AM (QC3yT)

58 In N Out and Chick Fil a used to be cut from the same cloth.
And then Chick Fil A decided to bend the knee and betray those that supported her.
Posted by: Just a side note at October 31, 2021 11:06 AM (2DOZq)

Yup. Only been to a CFA only since then, and that was only because it was the only thing open at the time.

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at October 31, 2021 11:28 AM (Hh3y4)

59
Just saw a commercial for "get the jab ya lousy bastards.gov"

I saw a bunch of ads from ScienceMoms.com telling me that climate change is killing their children.

"We're a nonpartisan group of climate scientists, who are also mothers, working to demystify climate change, talk honestly about its effects on our families, and give moms the info they need to help preserve the world for their kids."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 31, 2021 11:28 AM (63Dwl)

60 "We're a nonpartisan group of climate scientists, who are also mothers, working to demystify climate change, talk honestly about its effects on our families, and give moms the info they need to help preserve the world for their kids."

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.

lol. Geez, the grifting is everywhere.

Posted by: Infidevil at October 31, 2021 11:31 AM (QC3yT)

61 CA already has State Preemption. They just don't care to exercise it when the locality is persecuting gun owners or conservatives.

Posted by: rayra at October 31, 2021 11:31 AM (eJd7P)

62 Climate change is easy to demystify. Peel away all the lies, and you can just carry on because nothing is left besides "climate changes gradually."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 31, 2021 11:31 AM (/KPLX)

63 Yup. Only been to a ChickFila only since then, and that was only because it was the only thing open at the time.
Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at October 31, 2021 11:28 AM (Hh3y4)

Ah, I've only been to one ONCE since they went leftist. Even then, I was embarrassed to do so.

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at October 31, 2021 11:32 AM (Hh3y4)

64
is China too broke to stop supplying the planet?

currently they make a whole buncha stuff, they could be king if they stopped shipping
but are they financially able, i do not think so

Posted by: will choose a nic later at October 31, 2021 11:32 AM (bTQ72)

65 Businesses are allowed to discriminate against people again?

Coolio.

Posted by: blake - zombie lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at October 31, 2021 11:34 AM (2SdPm)

66 Super slow thread. Is everyone still downstairs bragging how literate they are?
Posted by: Justsayin' at October 31, 2021 11:18 AM (Fs5vw)

Well damnit. Im texting as fast as I can.
Sheesh!

Posted by: Digoblins at October 31, 2021 11:34 AM (axyOa)

67 56 Lockdowns and masks go on forever until Fauci's career is destroyed.
Posted by: Sparkling CN- at October 31, 2021 11:27 AM (ONvIw)

Nope. Lockdowns and masks will go on forever as long as people keep bowing down to the tyranny connected to them.

This ain't all Fauci's doing.

Posted by: Justsayin' at October 31, 2021 11:35 AM (Fs5vw)

68 Virginians, on Tuesday, get thee to the polls.

#tikitorchterry

Posted by: Darth Tater at October 31, 2021 11:35 AM (kyKhl)

69 Will guvna McAwful give Newsome some competition?

Posted by: Just Wondering at October 31, 2021 11:35 AM (jYQlA)

70 Testing!!

Posted by: Rick554 at October 31, 2021 11:36 AM (FmOIw)

71 This ain't all Fauci's doing.
Posted by: Justsayin' at October 31, 2021 11:35 AM (Fs5vw)

But if you thoroughly discredit the high priest, it's easier to shiv the underlings.

Posted by: Sparkling CN- at October 31, 2021 11:36 AM (ONvIw)

72 Will guvna McAwful give Newsome some competition?
Posted by: Just Wondering at October 31, 2021 11:35 AM (jYQlA)
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Puhleaze! They're still trying to catch up with me!

Posted by: Gov Cruella Whitmer at October 31, 2021 11:37 AM (2SdPm)

73 I've repeatedly asked businesses why they are acting like covid police for the government for free, if the government wants vaccine mandates tell them to hire staff to enforce their fascism. Businesses should not be acting as agents of the state for free, send them a bill as a form of protest.

Posted by: Rose at October 31, 2021 11:39 AM (f/Wek)

74 OT-before I run off, getting a house ready to put on the market is a pain in the butt.

That is all.

Later.

Posted by: blake - zombie lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at October 31, 2021 11:39 AM (2SdPm)

75 Kinda surprised that Northam didn't shut Virginia down in advance of the election.

Posted by: Spook Lowell at October 31, 2021 11:39 AM (kTF2Z)

76 Puhleaze! They're still trying to catch up with me!

Posted by: Gov Cruella Whitmer

Fag boy in CO is giving it the old college try.

Posted by: Infidevil at October 31, 2021 11:39 AM (QC3yT)

77 This ain't all Fauci's doing.

He birthed us. We're everywhere. Stay safe.

Posted by: A Scold of Karens at October 31, 2021 11:40 AM (Xrfse)

78 You cant comply your way out of tyranny.

Posted by: Revenant at October 31, 2021 11:40 AM (//ATM)

79 OT-before I run off, getting a house ready to put on the market is a pain in the butt.

That is all.

Later.

Posted by: blake -

Yes it is. Good luck.

Posted by: Infidevil at October 31, 2021 11:40 AM (QC3yT)

80 Alas about an eight hour drive to closest In-n-Out.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 31, 2021 11:41 AM (n6AUQ)

81 i love In-n-Out, but the only thing i can safely order there any more are fries and a t-shirt...

for a burger, i can't have the bun, the cheese or the spread, i can't have a chocolate shake, and i have to ask them to stop and clean the grill and all the utensils before they cook *my* special burger... damn soy allergy!

there are people here in Lost Angels that self-centered, but i ain't one of them.

Posted by: redc1c4 *OTUS Zhou Bai-Din Cheated & we all know it at October 31, 2021 11:42 AM (anN/2)

82 Beware the KarenWaffen
For tonight they seek to steal your fun.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 31, 2021 11:43 AM (n6AUQ)

83 Murphy from this side of the river seems to be laying low, seen all of 1 commercial for him mostly claiming his opponent is a Covid denier

Posted by: Skipjack the Ripper at October 31, 2021 11:43 AM (2JoB8)

84 I'm dubious how long In-and-Out will maintain their stance as "not being the vax police." It's hard to find a corporation these days that hasn't gone woke and is now doing the government's bidding by enforcing "corporate policies" that specifically mimic government policies that haven't been codified into law.

This was always the plan. Get corporate Amerikka to enforce policies the woke branch of society and the leftists want, but could never get through the normal and tedious Congressional process where it'd likely be shot down as unconstitutional.

Note that there haven't been many lawsuits filed against businesses and corporations enforcing mask mandates, transgender bathroom assignments, vax passports, etc. Weird that.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 31, 2021 11:44 AM (BFigT)

85
Posted by: Gov Cruella Whitmer at October 31, 2021 11:37 AM

she's been quiet lately

too quiet

I'm expecting a big increase in road construction in the spring ("fixing the roads" was her only substantive issue she ran on; other than legalizing pot)

Posted by: AltonJackson at October 31, 2021 11:44 AM (DUIap)

86 I'd love to get an In-N-Out burger, but in Colorado the drive through is about a 3 hour wait (seriously, they've routed the drive through a nearby parking garage).

Posted by: Tums Festival at October 31, 2021 11:20 AM (Uzh5E)

Don't sound too In-N-Out. Sounds more like arrive, take your place in the fossil records, and be sure to pack some snacks. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 31, 2021 11:45 AM (VwHCD)

87
78 You cant comply your way out of tyranny.
Posted by: Revenant at October 31, 2021 11:40 AM (//ATM)

Eventually tyranny turns violent. I fear we are reaching that point and the Obama worshippers can't wait to spill blood. Note how happily they allow antifa and BLM to do that. Now they have the armed forces and are using the evil vaxx to purge anyone with conscience from the ranks. This applies to hospitals and police forces, too. Nothing is by chance, here.

Posted by: Sparkling CN- at October 31, 2021 11:45 AM (ONvIw)

88
Greta Thornburg is not as angry, I think she has got laid

Posted by: will choose a nic later at October 31, 2021 11:46 AM (bTQ72)

89 But if you thoroughly discredit the high priest, it's easier to shiv the underlings.
Posted by: Sparkling CN- at October 31, 2021 11:36 AM (ONvIw)

There are now too many tyrants that are enjoying the tyranting too much. They're not going to give a shit if one or two tyrants fall......especially if the tyrants are supported by the WH, congress, and the DC deep state machine.

Posted by: Justsayin' at October 31, 2021 11:47 AM (Fs5vw)

90 Lockdowns and masks go on forever until Fauci's career is destroyed.

Posted by: Sparkling CN- at October 31, 2021 11:27 AM (ONvIw)

...or fired into the frigging sun.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 31, 2021 11:47 AM (VwHCD)

91 88
Greta Thornburg is not as angry, I think she has got laid
Posted by: will choose a nic later at October 31, 2021 11:46 AM (bTQ72)

Paired off with the Hogg boy, did she?

Posted by: Sparkling CN- at October 31, 2021 11:47 AM (ONvIw)

92 Reminds me of Michelle Obama making a pouty face and holding a sign saying #BringBackOurGirls

Who was she asking?
....as if she wasn't married to one of the only people who could do that at the time.

Posted by: Andyzero at October 31, 2021 11:48 AM (xU6Ix)

93 Fauci + sand fleas, some assembly required.

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 31, 2021 11:48 AM (n6AUQ)

94 OT-before I run off, getting a house ready to put on the market is a pain in the butt.

Posted by: blake - zombie lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at October 31, 2021 11:39 AM (2SdPm)

The understatement of the year. Welcome to my life.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 31, 2021 11:48 AM (VwHCD)

95 Greta von Thule > sand fleas > Fauci

Posted by: Anna Puma at October 31, 2021 11:49 AM (n6AUQ)

96 Media seems disinterested in reporting the oil pipeline spill off CA caused by one of the hundreds of container ships sitting out there dragging anchor across the pipe, caused by this clusterfck admin's clusterfcking. Imagine the hysteria if such an environmental disaster happened during a GOP admin.

Posted by: Cringe Biscuit at October 31, 2021 11:50 AM (Eus9b)

97 There are now too many tyrants that are enjoying the tyranting too much. They're not going to give a shit if one or two tyrants fall......especially if the tyrants are supported by the WH, congress, and the DC deep state machine.
Posted by: Justsayin' at October 31, 2021 11:47 AM (Fs5vw)

Fauci is their "scientific" underpinnings. For him they destroyed Raoult and much better men than Fauci, in order to get rich from that "vaccine". He has to go down if we have a chance. Discredit him, and the "science" is gone, and without the veneer of science all you have is fascist totalitarianism for all to see.

Posted by: Sparkling CN- at October 31, 2021 11:50 AM (ONvIw)

98 ...or fired into the frigging sun.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 31, 2021 11:47 AM (VwHCD)

That works too, but he has to be exposed as the liar he is.

Posted by: Sparkling CN- at October 31, 2021 11:51 AM (ONvIw)

99 You have to prove your cholesterol levels are below government maximums before placing an order at a burger joint.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 31, 2021 11:51 AM (0ryfU)

100 I'm expecting a big increase in road construction in the spring ("fixing the roads" was her only substantive issue she ran on; other than legalizing pot)
Posted by: AltonJackson at October 31, 2021 11:44 AM

I hope not. It took an extra two hours to return home last weekend because 69 was down to two lanes and so many ramps were closed. Including the one from 475.

Posted by: NaughtyPinebox at October 31, 2021 11:52 AM (/+bwe)

101 Thanks CBD for venting some of my spleen

Gavin is a sociopath.

Posted by: San Franspook-o at October 31, 2021 11:52 AM (EZebt)

102 Good for In-N-Out. They stood be their principles and told Newsom to F off. Imagine if the GOP did that.

Posted by: Dyatt Earp at October 31, 2021 11:53 AM (XSRBF)

103 73 I've repeatedly asked businesses why they are acting like covid police for the government for free, if the government wants vaccine mandates tell them to hire staff to enforce their fascism. Businesses should not be acting as agents of the state for free, send them a bill as a form of protest.
Posted by: Rose at October 31, 2021 11:39 AM (f/Wek)

I think the leftists in government would be fully on-board with this. What better way for government to completely take over private business.

Posted by: Justsayin' at October 31, 2021 11:54 AM (Fs5vw)

104 OT-before I run off, getting a house ready to put on the market is a pain in the butt.

Posted by: blake - zombie lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at October 31, 2021 11:39 AM (2SdPm)

The understatement of the year. Welcome to my life.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 31, 2021 11:48 AM (VwHCD

I was fortunate that I was able to sell my mother's place one day after I put it on the market. I did the minimum to clear and stage the house before putting it for sale. I was also fortunate that the buyer wanted the closing date five weeks down the line. Gave me time to pack and clear it out. I needed every bit of that five weeks,

Posted by: Just a side note at October 31, 2021 11:54 AM (2DOZq)

105 102 Good for In-N-Out. They stood be their principles and told Newsom to F off. Imagine if the GOP did that.
Posted by: Dyatt Earp at October 31, 2021 11:53 AM (XSRBF)

Sadly, too many GOP are in favor of this enriching fascism, and like what's happening while they pretend to be askance in their pleas for money.

Posted by: Sparkling CN- at October 31, 2021 11:54 AM (ONvIw)

106 Everyone should Get out and vote Republican on Tuesday because the a Democrats will be voting until Friday in Virginia.

Posted by: 4thewin at October 31, 2021 11:56 AM (Oq5a2)

107 Every business with more than 10 employees needs a political officer to staff every worksite to ensure compliance.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 31, 2021 11:56 AM (0ryfU)

108 Well, In-N-Out have good hamburgers, so, no, they aren't like Five Guys.

Posted by: naturalfrankenstein at October 31, 2021 11:22 AM (5NkmN)

I like Five Guys burgers, and I especially like their fries. But they aren't "fast food", it's more a cafeteria experience. In-N-Out is fast food, and their stuff is good from that standpoint. And the stores are clean, and the staff courteous.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Prion at October 31, 2021 11:57 AM (P3gRi)

109 Of course, the business will be responsible for paying the political officers at a rate established by the GSA.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 31, 2021 11:57 AM (0ryfU)

110 For those that have eaten at both.

Whataburger or In n Out?

Posted by: Just a side note at October 31, 2021 11:58 AM (2DOZq)

111 I was fortunate that I was able to sell my mother's place one day after I put it on the market. I did the minimum to clear and stage the house before putting it for sale. I was also fortunate that the buyer wanted the closing date five weeks down the line. Gave me time to pack and clear it out. I needed every bit of that five weeks,

Posted by: Just a side note

Very fortunate. When I sold my house I was planning on moving into the family home (dad passed) and buying out my bro. I got everything moved and then had a painter come in and put new carpet and kitchen floor in. I had 4 offers in less than 48 hrs. Sold over asking price. I miss that little house.

Posted by: Infidevil at October 31, 2021 11:58 AM (QC3yT)

112 Voting will continue until the outcome of the election is known.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 31, 2021 11:59 AM (0ryfU)

113 >>>Sadly, too many GOP are in favor of this enriching fascism, and like what's happening while they pretend to be askance in their pleas for money.

Posted by: Sparkling CN

Sadly true.

Posted by: Dyatt Earp at October 31, 2021 11:59 AM (XSRBF)

114 In n out. By a mile.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 31, 2021 11:59 AM (0ryfU)

115 I saw a bunch of ads from ScienceMoms.com telling me that climate change is killing their children.

"We're a nonpartisan group of climate scientists, who are also mothers, working to demystify climate change, talk honestly about its effects on our families, and give moms the info they need to help preserve the world for their kids."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 31, 2021 11:28 AM (63Dwl)

That's a strange way to write "insane Communist c*nts".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Prion at October 31, 2021 11:59 AM (P3gRi)

116 I remember when In and Out opened in Camarillo. The double double was awesome. I missed them immensely when I moved to Texas 30+ years ago. But In and Out has followed me finally, there are two relatively close. One in Pflugerville and one in Round Rock.

Posted by: Death Randall at October 31, 2021 12:01 PM (gIYpz)

117 CA already has State Preemption. They just don't care to exercise it when the locality is persecuting gun owners or conservatives.
Posted by: rayra at October 31, 2021 11:31 AM (eJd7P)

rayra? Now there's a flash from the past.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Prion at October 31, 2021 12:01 PM (P3gRi)

118 The understatement of the year. Welcome to my life.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at October 31, 2021 11:48 AM (VwHCD)
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Had some electrical I needed to fix, broken outlet, 20 amp outlet on a 15 amp circuit, etc.

Basically trying to make sure stuff will pass home inspection.

Fleeing CA for AZ.

Posted by: blake - zombie lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at October 31, 2021 12:01 PM (2SdPm)

119 I am sure science moms do not get a single penny from soros. They get millions of them.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 31, 2021 12:02 PM (0ryfU)

120 In-N-Out is privately owned, right? That makes a huge difference.

Owner with a vision >>> corporate rule-by-committee

Posted by: CppThis at October 31, 2021 12:02 PM (UewuT)

121 Those are good burgers, Dude.

Posted by: Donny Kerabatsos at October 31, 2021 12:02 PM (AlkyK)

122 What is a climate scientist?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 31, 2021 12:03 PM (0ryfU)

123 Greta Thornburg is not as angry, I think she has got laid
Posted by: will choose a nic later at October 31, 2021 11:46 AM (bTQ72)

Daddy got hold of some Viagra?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Prion at October 31, 2021 12:04 PM (P3gRi)

124 In n out. By a mile.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 31, 2021 11:59 AM (0ryfU)

By a mile? There are three in the Houston area but all outside the city limits I believe so I haven't been there yet. One day I'll have to see if a mile is true.

Posted by: Just a side note at October 31, 2021 12:04 PM (2DOZq)

125 106 4thewin

Are you in VA? Why did the Fairfax Supervisor of Election (or whatever he's called) speak as if the final vote tally would not be known until Friday? Mail-ins?

Posted by: EveR at October 31, 2021 12:05 PM (MUpk6)

126 >>"We're a nonpartisan group of climate scientists, who are also mothers, working to demystify climate change, talk honestly about its effects on our families, and give moms the info they need to help preserve the world for their kids."

Show Us Your Tits!

Posted by: garrett at October 31, 2021 12:06 PM (m2VWk)

127 "We're a nonpartisan group of climate scientists, who are also mothers, working to demystify climate change, talk honestly about its effects on our families, and give moms the info they need to help preserve the world for their kids."

*to the assembled Moms* Nonpartisan, you say. Question: how many of you voted for Trump? How many of you have EVER voted for anyone other than a lefty?

**crickets**

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:07 PM (ZsR3z)

128 Show Us Your Tits!
Posted by: garrett at October 31, 2021 12:06 PM (m2VWk)

#forscience

Posted by: browndog Official Mascot of The Baskervilles at October 31, 2021 12:08 PM (BgMrQ)

129 CAMARILLO BRILLO

https://www.youtube.com/
watch?v=nllWDc8_9lw

Posted by: FRANK ZAPPA at October 31, 2021 12:08 PM (m2VWk)

130 Why did the Fairfax Supervisor of Election (or whatever he's called) speak as if the final vote tally would not be known until Friday? Mail-ins?

Because manufacturers have to pay time-and-a-half on Saturdays.

Posted by: t-brimstone at October 31, 2021 12:08 PM (9Fwwf)

131 working to demystify climate change, talk honestly about its effects on our families

Ironically, scientists seem to be the only ones mystified by the weather.

Posted by: t-brimstone at October 31, 2021 12:11 PM (9Fwwf)

132 >>I like Five Guys burgers

They don't salt / spice their burgers at all. They taste hollow / empty to me.

Fries are good, though.

... if you are into that sort of thing.

Posted by: garrett at October 31, 2021 12:11 PM (m2VWk)

133 hiya

Posted by: JT at October 31, 2021 12:12 PM (arJlL)

134 Moms for climate science sounds like the commies response to CRED. Coloradans for Responsible Energy Development. CRED was formed to educate LIVs about all the safety regs on the oil and gas industry and how big a part of the economy they are. CRED ran ads with moms explaining they worked in the industry and knew how safe it was to stop the commies from putting in a 1/2 mile setback rule a couple years ago.

Posted by: GhostRider, not in the sky at October 31, 2021 12:12 PM (pxVvf)

135 Dear climate moms,

The climate has been changing since the formation of the planet and there's nothing you can do about it. Hope that helps.

Posted by: Spook Lowell at October 31, 2021 12:12 PM (kTF2Z)

136 "We're a nonpartisan group of climate scientists, who are also mothers, "

She writes it down
When the needles go around

Posted by: Guy who relates everything to a Zappa song at October 31, 2021 12:12 PM (Tnijr)

137 127 *to the assembled Moms* Nonpartisan, you say. Question: how many of you voted for Trump? How many of you have EVER voted for anyone other than a lefty?

**crickets**
Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:07 PM (ZsR3z)

Question #2: How many of you have made substantial efforts to advocate for increased adoption of nuclear energy, telecommuting, localized supply chain, and other such fossil-fuel reduction ideas that don't revolve entirely around expanding central-government power for its own sake?

Posted by: CppThis at October 31, 2021 12:12 PM (UewuT)

138 working to demystify climate change, talk honestly about its effects on our families

They want to demystify and talk honestly in the same way that lefties want to have a conversation about race.

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:13 PM (ZsR3z)

139 Though suspect "Science Moms" are mostly well off otherwise they wouldn't have the extra time, do hope their heating those large homes is felt this winter.

Posted by: Skipjack the Ripper at October 31, 2021 12:13 PM (2JoB8)

140 working to demystify climate change, talk honestly about its effects on our families...

Like karens using it as an excuse for whatever the cause of the week is. Moar wine for the wenches!

Posted by: Digoblins at October 31, 2021 12:14 PM (axyOa)

141 The climate has been changing since the formation of the planet and there's nothing you can do about it.

Posted by: Spook Lowell at October 31, 2021 12:12 PM (kTF2Z)

Are you suggesting that separating paper from plastic from glass isn't going to save the world for their children?

I'm shocked! Have we been lied to?

Posted by: TheGreatPumpkin'sDildo at October 31, 2021 12:14 PM (Q9lwr)

142 The biggest problem with Five Guys is you need a bank loan to pay for your meal.

Posted by: Just a side note at October 31, 2021 12:14 PM (2DOZq)

143 Is In-N-Out kind of like Five Guys?
Posted by: olddog]

Five Guys copied In N Out's simple menu, added a pound of salt, and tripled the price.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 31, 2021 12:15 PM (1t5dY)

144 Whataburger or In n Out?
Posted by: Just a side note at October 31, 2021 11:58 AM (2DOZq)

In n Out.

Posted by: I Was a Teenage WereJordan61 at October 31, 2021 12:15 PM (h02fy)

145 I've sometimes wondered what mankind would really have to do to change the climate. I don't think we could make a dramatic impact even if we tried.

Posted by: f'd at October 31, 2021 12:15 PM (Tnijr)

146 Speaking of climate, Houston is finally having some fall weather. The high will only be 79 degrees today.

Posted by: Just a side note at October 31, 2021 12:16 PM (2DOZq)

147 >>The biggest problem with Five Guys is you need a bank loan to pay for your meal.

Cheeseburger w/ Caeser side salad and a Diet Coke is now $15.50 at my local.

$15.50!?

That's $20 w/tip...crazy.

Posted by: garrett at October 31, 2021 12:16 PM (m2VWk)

148 Who'll stop the rain? *hic*

Posted by: Wine Moms for Climate Science at October 31, 2021 12:17 PM (Xrfse)

149 I went to Five Guys once, it was okay but not really worth getting excited over. Whataburger is a step up from the lesser burger joints but the only one that really and truly did it for me was Smashburger because the beef is notably better. I value the sexual purity of my hamburger and thus don't defile it with impurities like lettuce and cheese, so my enjoyment of a burger is entirely based on the quality of the meat and bun.

Can't remember if I went to In-N-Out in my CA years. It's possible, but if I did it must not have been memorable.

Posted by: CppThis at October 31, 2021 12:17 PM (UewuT)

150 The biggest problem with Five Guys is you need a bank loan to pay for your meal.
Posted by: Just a side note at October 31, 2021 12:14 PM (2DOZq)

Eaten at McDonald's lately? The margin between Five Guys and the fast-food joints has been shrinking, a lot.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Prion at October 31, 2021 12:18 PM (P3gRi)

151 Watching Dracula 2000- Gerard Butler is so young I don't recognize him

Posted by: vmom's blood soaked claws at October 31, 2021 12:19 PM (YZG/i)

152 Eaten at McDonald's lately? The margin between Five Guys and the fast-food joints has been shrinking, a lot.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Prion at October 31, 2021 12:18 PM (P3gRi)

Yep. Hubs picked up Wendy's for dinner the other night. $40 for three of us.

Posted by: I Was a Teenage WereJordan61 at October 31, 2021 12:19 PM (h02fy)

153 Who'll stop the rain? *hic*

Posted by: Wine Moms for Climate Science

It is my understanding that a hard rain's a-gonna faaaallll.

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:20 PM (ZsR3z)

154 We don't patronize the fast food joints anymore except in extreme cases with the grands. Too wickedly expensive for what you get.

Posted by: Tonyeeek at October 31, 2021 12:21 PM (mD/uy)

155 What is really fun is working for a 'science' non profit and getting emails about how an increase of funding much less than inflation is awesome commiecrat support of science.

I have considered I should walk away from the job but I like the actual work. They even accepted my vaccine exemption request. That was/is my red line. If they decide to revoke the exemption in the future I'll be out of there. Even if have decided some future vaccine is a good choice for me I am not going to let commiecrats demand proof of any of my medical history

Posted by: GhostRider, not in the sky at October 31, 2021 12:21 PM (pxVvf)

156 Eaten at McDonald's lately? The margin between Five Guys and the fast-food joints has been shrinking, a lot.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Prion at October 31, 2021 12:18 PM (P3gRi)

Yes fast food prices are increasing but so is Five Guys so the margin has remained the same. I can get a steak dinner at the Outback for the same price as burger and fries at Five Guys.

Posted by: Just a side note at October 31, 2021 12:21 PM (2DOZq)

157
interestingly how "Science Moms" are in a whole bunch of different lefty groups wanting government control

Posted by: will choose a nic later at October 31, 2021 12:22 PM (bTQ72)

158 Blake, good luck on your sale.

And after moving the expenses just start... 'New' house needs... fans, drapes, paint, blinds, watering system, and to top it off... the well needed a new pump.
Cha-ching!!!

But, this place is loads better than the track home in Tempe.
Again, good luck!

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 31, 2021 12:22 PM (5pwb+)

159 I used to like Big Macs. Hadn't had one forever. Stopped in a few weeks ago because I was right there. Got a big mac and apple pie. They were both crappy and cost almost $8. Takes care of that.

Posted by: Infidevil at October 31, 2021 12:22 PM (QC3yT)

160 Remember when there was a hole in the ozone due to hairspray? You never hear about the hole because it closed naturally.

Besides we can blame our new "crisis" on something more serious: cow farts.

Wonder how many of these mothers are feeding their ikids bugs, like the lizard people they are.

Posted by: Regular joe at October 31, 2021 12:22 PM (L9P9s)

161 In-N-Out shows the way.

Be strong and courageous!

Posted by: Emmie at October 31, 2021 12:23 PM (LM54q)

162 The bigger question, and one I've been asking for a couple years now... is why Mayors, or County Officials, can they take away the rights of yourself, and your business? What 'law' gives them that power?

Because in most instances you will find that STATES have passed laws giving Governors emergency authority, but did not devolve that authority down to city levels.

Posted by: Ghost of Romeo at October 31, 2021 12:24 PM (oHd/0)

163 Nic change. Just in case i comment later!

Posted by: t-dubya-DEATH at October 31, 2021 12:24 PM (UGun5)

164 Posted by: I Was a Teenage WereJordan61 at October 31, 2021 12:19 PM (h02fy)

You all must have biggie sized a triple combo.

Posted by: Just a side note at October 31, 2021 12:24 PM (2DOZq)

165 Who'll stop the rain? *hic*

Posted by: Wine Moms for Climate Science

Even an orangutan knows to put a leaf over its head.

Posted by: t-brimstone at October 31, 2021 12:24 PM (1vynn)

166 Got a big mac and apple pie. They were both crappy and cost almost $8.
Posted by: Infidevil

Was the apple pie so hot it would melt concrete like in the days of old?

I don't know how they engineered those pies to remain so hot until one bit into them and then, and only then, would the bottom open up and dump the contents into your no-no square.

Posted by: Tonyeeek at October 31, 2021 12:24 PM (mD/uy)

167 155 What is really fun is working for a 'science' non profit and getting emails about how an increase of funding much less than inflation is awesome commiecrat support of science.

I have considered I should walk away from the job but I like the actual work. They even accepted my vaccine exemption request. That was/is my red line. If they decide to revoke the exemption in the future I'll be out of there. Even if have decided some future vaccine is a good choice for me I am not going to let commiecrats demand proof of any of my medical history
Posted by: GhostRider, not in the sky at October 31, 2021 12:21 PM (pxVvf)

Well, if you enjoy it and they stay off your back for the most part that sounds like a good deal. I'm honestly not super enthused about the technical or market aspects of my current job but they're not into the woke nonsense and I don't have to show Papers Please (yet) which counts for a lot. There are good jobs and bad jobs, but there are no perfect jobs.

Posted by: CppThis at October 31, 2021 12:25 PM (UewuT)

168 "We're a nonpartisan group of climate scientists, who are also mothers, working to demystify climate change, talk honestly about its effects on our families, and give moms the info they need to help preserve the world for their kids."

Hey there ladies...we cannot even count votes accurately. What the hell makes you think you understand climate?

Posted by: Digoblins at October 31, 2021 12:25 PM (axyOa)

169 But, this place is loads better than the track home in Tempe.
Again, good luck!
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 31, 2021 12:22 PM (5pwb+)
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We're supposed to get a signed contract tomorrow on the house we're purchasing in Kingman. Not large, just under 1500 sq ft, but, three car garage, one of which is a drive through garage. The plan is to turn that into my shop. We shall see.

Posted by: blake - zombie lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at October 31, 2021 12:25 PM (2SdPm)

170 Could someone kindly inform me of the rapscallion CBD's email addy for the Food Thread?

Posted by: Jak Sucio - Needs More Bleach And Another Shower Curtain..Blood Everywhere at October 31, 2021 12:26 PM (jvt6t)

171 You can get two Whoppers for six bucks.

Posted by: Just a side note at October 31, 2021 12:26 PM (2DOZq)

172 At McD's I order from the value menu. The triple cheeseburger is still just $3 I think

Posted by: vmom's blood soaked claws at October 31, 2021 12:26 PM (YZG/i)

173 nic change - hope it hasn't been taken yet.

Posted by: Night of the Living Tonypete at October 31, 2021 12:26 PM (mD/uy)

174 You can get two Whoppers for six bucks.
Posted by: Just a side note

Nice! Usually, it's $20. Same as in town.

Posted by: Night of the Living Tonypete at October 31, 2021 12:27 PM (mD/uy)

175 Posted by: Dyatt Earp at October 31, 2021 11:53 AM (XSRBF)

Half the calories of regular Earp.

Posted by: naturalfrankenstein at October 31, 2021 12:27 PM (5NkmN)

176 Was the apple pie so hot it would melt concrete like in the days of old?

I don't know how they engineered those pies to remain so hot until one bit into them and then, and only then, would the bottom open up and dump the contents into your no-no square.

Posted by: Tonyeeek

lol. I took it back to the office, but I did have to wait for them to cook it. Not the same as I remember at all.

Posted by: Infidevil at October 31, 2021 12:27 PM (QC3yT)

177 At McD's I order from the value menu. The triple cheeseburger is still just $3 I think
Posted by: vmom's blood soaked claws at October 31, 2021 12:26 PM (YZG/i)

You can get the spicy McChicken sandwich for $1.

Posted by: Just a side note at October 31, 2021 12:27 PM (2DOZq)

178 You can get two Whoppers for six bucks.
Posted by: Just a side note at October 31, 2021 12:26 PM (2DOZq)
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Unless you're a DC politician. Their whoppers cost billions.

Posted by: blake - zombie lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at October 31, 2021 12:27 PM (2SdPm)

179 >>We're supposed to get a signed contract tomorrow on the house we're purchasing in Kingman. Not large, just under 1500 sq ft, but, three car garage, one of which is a drive through garage. The plan is to turn that into my shop. We shall see.

Kingman!?

Awesome. You will never have to drive far for Crystal Meth.

I keed. I have a lotta friends in Wigman.

Posted by: garrett at October 31, 2021 12:27 PM (m2VWk)

180 We're supposed to get a signed contract tomorrow on the house we're purchasing in Kingman. Not large, just under 1500 sq ft, but, three car garage, one of which is a drive through garage. The plan is to turn that into my shop. We shall see.
Posted by: blake - zombie lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at October 31, 2021 12:25 PM (2SdPm)

Well if we ever get back there to visit Mr. Jordan61's brothers I'll let you know.

Posted by: I Was a Teenage WereJordan61 at October 31, 2021 12:28 PM (h02fy)

181 Remember when there was a hole in the ozone due to hairspray? You never hear about the hole because it closed naturally.

What's the basis for this statement? The concentration of chlorofluorocarbons did decline, as did ozone depletion. Correlation doesn't equal causation, but the timing is pretty solid.

https://tinyurl.com/925sze29

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:29 PM (ZsR3z)

182 Awesome. You will never have to drive far for Crystal Meth.

I keed. I have a lotta friends in Wigman.
Posted by: garrett at October 31, 2021 12:27 PM (m2VWk)
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Yeah, Kern County, when it comes to meth in Kingman, says, "Hold my beer!"

Posted by: blake - zombie lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at October 31, 2021 12:29 PM (2SdPm)

183 You can get the spicy McChicken sandwich for $1.
Posted by: Just a side note

Yeah. But I've gone off chicken.

Posted by: vmom's blood soaked claws at October 31, 2021 12:29 PM (YZG/i)

184 160 Remember when there was a hole in the ozone due to hairspray? You never hear about the hole because it closed naturally.
Besides we can blame our new "crisis" on something more serious: cow farts.
Wonder how many of these mothers are feeding their ikids bugs, like the lizard people they are.
Posted by: Regular joe at October 31, 2021 12:22 PM (L9P9s)

that was the test run for everything done in a much bigger way with the Global Warming scam. Turns out the "hole" is a natural phenomena that comes and goes, and which could never be measured before satellites existed. But they built it up into this huge scare that made billions of dollars for certain selected corporations.

fact - there is nothing wrong with freon, it does nothing to the atmosphere, and there was never any valid reason at all to make everyone install more expensive AC units.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 31, 2021 12:30 PM (evAgx)

185 Well if we ever get back there to visit Mr. Jordan61's brothers I'll let you know.
Posted by: I Was a Teenage WereJordan61 at October 31, 2021 12:28 PM (h02fy)
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That would be outstanding. We'll give you a corner in the garage if you need to escape from the Brothers of Mr. Jordan.

Posted by: blake - zombie lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at October 31, 2021 12:30 PM (2SdPm)

186 You can get the spicy McChicken sandwich for $1.
Posted by: Just a side note

Yeah. But I've gone off chicken.
Posted by: vmom's blood soaked claws at October 31, 2021 12:29 PM (YZG/i)

So has MacDs

Posted by: Digoblins at October 31, 2021 12:31 PM (axyOa)

187 Whataburger or In n Out?
Posted by: Just a side note at October 31, 2021 11:58 AM (2DOZq)

Whataburger clearly has the better burger(s), but it's close. I like In-N-Out a lot. But, even though both are close by, I wind up eating at Whataburger more.

Posted by: naturalfrankenstein at October 31, 2021 12:31 PM (5NkmN)

188 Brandon, are you OK?
So, Brandon, are you OK?
Are you OK, Brandon?
Brandon, are you OK?

Posted by: Cthillary, dead but dreaming at October 31, 2021 12:31 PM (FWn1L)

189 Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:29 PM (ZsR3z)

Or maybe the Ozone Hole was not what they claimed it was. And yes the timing was interesting but not in the way you meant.

Posted by: Just a side note at October 31, 2021 12:31 PM (2DOZq)

190 I used to like Big Macs. Hadn't had one forever. Stopped in a few weeks ago because I was right there. Got a big mac and apple pie. They were both crappy and cost almost $8. Takes care of that.
Posted by: Infidevil at October 31, 2021 12:22 PM (QC3yT)

What you gotta do is order a Big Mac and a regular hamburger. Then take the guts/meaty from the hamburger and slide it under the top bun of the Big Mac.

I call it the Big Mic.

Your welcome.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 31, 2021 12:32 PM (R/m4+)

191 We're supposed to get a signed contract tomorrow on the house we're purchasing in Kingman.

Lotta folk singers in your area?

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:32 PM (ZsR3z)

192
Best of Breed for Lila under a judge we had no confidence in at all. Variety Groups start at 3:15 and Hounds are 6th. Unfortunately it's the same judge.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 31, 2021 12:32 PM (/U27+)

193 What's the basis for this statement? The concentration of chlorofluorocarbons did decline, as did ozone depletion. Correlation doesn't equal causation, but the timing is pretty solid.

https://tinyurl.com/925sze29
Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:29 PM (ZsR3z)

the problem is that you (and of course the people pushing the idea) simply assume that chlorofluorocarbons had something to do with the hole. But if the hole is just a natural phenomena that periodically generates and disappears, then cutting CFC's had nothing more to do with the drop than sacrificing virgins in a volcano would have.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 31, 2021 12:33 PM (evAgx)

194 After pREsident talked to Putin about increasing gas to Germany he started reversing the flow.

Posted by: Braenyard at October 31, 2021 12:33 PM (nDTNp)

195 Whataburger. There is a fairly local chain here called PTerrys Burgers that kicks In N Out's butt. Locations all over Austin.

Posted by: Jak Sucio - Needs More Bleach And Another Shower Curtain..Blood Everywhere at October 31, 2021 12:33 PM (jvt6t)

196 What you gotta do is order a Big Mac and a regular hamburger. Then take the guts/meaty from the hamburger and slide it under the top bun of the Big Mac.

I call it the Big Mic.
Your welcome.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 31, 2021 12:32 PM (R/m4+)

what you need to do is go to Whataburger and order the double meat with cheese and jalapeno, all the way. My go to burger.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 31, 2021 12:34 PM (evAgx)

197 Or maybe the Ozone Hole was not what they claimed it was. And yes the timing was interesting but not in the way you meant.

What are you disputing? The chemical concentrations are pretty readily measured. We know when CFCs were banned. It is an error to assume that just because atmospheric chemists have beclowned themselves with global warming, all of the field is rubbish.

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:34 PM (ZsR3z)

198 Told story before went to Burger King maybe 15 years ago at lunch, 12 noon drive through. Got hamburger that was as cold as if made day before. Last time ever went to one.

Posted by: Skipjack the Ripper at October 31, 2021 12:34 PM (2JoB8)

199
Locations all over Austin.
Posted by: Jak Sucio - Needs More Bleach And Another Shower Curtain..Blood Everywhere at October 31, 2021 12:33 PM (jvt6t)

_________

There's the problem. You have to go to Austin. Which I refuse to do.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 31, 2021 12:34 PM (/U27+)

200 Remember when there was a hole in the ozone due to hairspray? You never hear about the hole because it closed naturally.

**

Was that the disaster that just so happened to coincide with the patent running out on some widely used refrigerant?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the vax for kids is brand new and never tested on ANYONE, see p14 at October 31, 2021 12:35 PM (cUuEU)

201 Remember when there was a hole in the ozone due to hairspray? You never hear about the hole because it closed naturally.
Besides we can blame our new "crisis" on something more serious: cow farts.
Wonder how many of these mothers are feeding their ikids bugs, like the lizard people they are.
Posted by: Regular joe at October 31, 2021 12:22 PM (L9P9s)

I remember when the acid rain was gonna remove the paint from cars and the flesh from our bones.

Still waiting...

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 31, 2021 12:35 PM (R/m4+)

202 the problem is that you (and of course the people pushing the idea) simply assume that chlorofluorocarbons had something to do with the hole. But if the hole is just a natural phenomena that periodically generates and disappears, then cutting CFC's had nothing more to do with the drop than sacrificing virgins in a volcano would have.

I didn't simply assume anything. The kinetics of the reaction between those species and ozone is well studied.

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:35 PM (ZsR3z)

203 There's the problem. You have to go to Austin. Which I refuse to do.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 31, 2021 12:34 PM (/U27+)

Cedar Park, Pflugerville, Round Rock. There. You're safe.

Posted by: Jak Sucio - Needs More Bleach And Another Shower Curtain..Blood Everywhere at October 31, 2021 12:36 PM (jvt6t)

204 test

Posted by: Winston, GOPe, not one dime, not one vote at October 31, 2021 12:36 PM (DS/kF)

205 Best of Breed for Lila under a judge we had no confidence in at all. Variety Groups start at 3:15 and Hounds are 6th. Unfortunately it's the same judge.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 31, 2021 12:32 PM (/U27+)
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Maybe I can help with the judge.

Posted by: Jeff Gillooly at October 31, 2021 12:36 PM (2SdPm)

206 What are you disputing? The chemical concentrations are pretty readily measured. We know when CFCs were banned. It is an error to assume that just because atmospheric chemists have beclowned themselves with global warming, all of the field is rubbish.
Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:34 PM (ZsR3z)

what's funny is that you say "correlation is not causation", and then you base your entire argument on the assumption that correlation MUST mean causation. You have no actual evidence of the cause of the "hole" at all. How can you show that it isn't just a natural component of the atmosphere at the Antarctic that has always come and gone? Especially since no one even tried to measure it until the 1970's?

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 31, 2021 12:36 PM (evAgx)

207 That would be outstanding. We'll give you a corner in the garage if you need to escape from the Brothers of Mr. Jordan.
Posted by: blake - zombie lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at October 31, 2021 12:30 PM (2SdPm)

Oh I'm sure I will. They're weird.

Posted by: I Was a Teenage WereJordan61 at October 31, 2021 12:36 PM (h02fy)

208 Maybe I can help with the judge.
Posted by: Jeff Gillooly

You're on thin ice there Bub.

Posted by: Night of the Living Tonypete at October 31, 2021 12:36 PM (mD/uy)

209 We're supposed to get a signed contract tomorrow on the house we're purchasing in Kingman. Not large, just under 1500 sq ft, but, three car garage, one of which is a drive through garage. The plan is to turn that into my shop. We shall see.
Posted by: blake - zombie lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at October 31, 2021 12:25 PM (2SdPm)

Excellent.
I think I remember your new place will be on the road to Oatman. Watch out for the Donkeys! (and their leavings!)

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 31, 2021 12:36 PM (5pwb+)

210 I didn't simply assume anything. The kinetics of the reaction between those species and ozone is well studied.
Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:35 PM (ZsR3z)

you mean misleading lab experiments that had absolutely nothing to do with the actual conditions were pushed to justify a huge money and power grab.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 31, 2021 12:37 PM (evAgx)

211 What are you disputing? The chemical concentrations are pretty readily measured. We know when CFCs were banned. It is an error to assume that just because atmospheric chemists have beclowned themselves with global warming, all of the field is rubbish.
Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:34 PM (ZsR3z)

You think the period of time between the banning of CFCs and the claim that the 'hole' was closing supports cause and effect?

Posted by: Just a side note at October 31, 2021 12:37 PM (2DOZq)

212 I used to love Burger King. But it's become the worst of the big fast food joints. And it's not just the ones close to my house. It's all of them. It's a wonder they haven't gone under yet.

Wendy's has become my go-to (not that we do fast food a lot, mostly while traveling), because their fries have improved a helluva lot, and I like the spicy chicken sammich. And quick service.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Scary Leprechaun with a cudgel at October 31, 2021 12:37 PM (x8Wzq)

213 We are diverse. There is nothing that doesn't scare the crap out of us. *hic*

Posted by: Wine Moms for Climate Science at October 31, 2021 12:37 PM (Xrfse)

214 Florida is already courting In-N-Out

Posted by: weew at October 31, 2021 12:38 PM (+m+uH)

215
You're on thin ice there Bub.
Posted by: Night of the Living Tonypete at October 31, 2021 12:36 PM (mD/uy)

___________

He'll skate on the charges.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 31, 2021 12:38 PM (/U27+)

216 Show Us Your Tits!
Posted by: garrett

Milkers for Mordor!

Posted by: Drink Like Vikings at October 31, 2021 12:39 PM (THrK8)

217 Excellent.
I think I remember your new place will be on the road to Oatman. Watch out for the Donkeys! (and their leavings!)
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 31, 2021 12:36 PM (5pwb+)
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Eh, I will only head toward Oatman when I'm on my way to 7 Mile Hill Shooting Range.

Hard to believe how much time I've spent running around in that area, considering I've only visited a few times.

Posted by: blake - zombie lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at October 31, 2021 12:39 PM (2SdPm)

218 you mean misleading lab experiments that had absolutely nothing to do with the actual conditions were pushed to justify a huge money and power grab.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 31, 2021 12:37 PM (evAgx)

**

I'll type more about this in a second, the guy is here to check my home for radon so we don't all die of cancer.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the vax for kids is brand new and never tested on ANYONE, see p14 at October 31, 2021 12:39 PM (cUuEU)

219 what's funny is that you say "correlation is not causation", and then you base your entire argument on the assumption that correlation MUST mean causation. You have no actual evidence of the cause of the "hole" at all.

I don't know what you're looking for in terms of evidence. Again, the kinetics involved is well studied. Saying things like " You never hear about the hole because it closed naturally" without actual evidence and in contradiction to the known chemical science is a problem.

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:40 PM (ZsR3z)

220 Best of Breed for Lila under a judge we had no confidence in at all. Variety Groups start at 3:15 and Hounds are 6th. Unfortunately it's the same judge.
Posted by: Hadrian

That's good news according to your expectations read the other day...

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 31, 2021 12:40 PM (5pwb+)

221 All kidding aside, good luck, Hadrian.

Posted by: blake - zombie lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at October 31, 2021 12:41 PM (2SdPm)

222 Climate moms should shut their pieholes.
In 1984 I read the Global 2000 report commissioned by Pres.Carter.
I'm still waiting for the impending ice age and one billion deaths from starvation.

Posted by: Digoblins at October 31, 2021 12:41 PM (axyOa)

223 You think the period of time between the banning of CFCs and the claim that the 'hole' was closing supports cause and effect?

Yes. A large system like this would take time to react, especially because CFCs are so stable and long lived.

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:41 PM (ZsR3z)

224

What are you disputing? The chemical concentrations are pretty readily measured. We know when CFCs were banned. It is an error to assume that just because atmospheric chemists have beclowned themselves with global warming, all of the field is rubbish.
Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:34 PM (ZsR3z)

I think it's rubbish that man can control anything about the climate. It's the ultimate height of arrogance to think something as puny and insignificant as mankind can control the forces that affect climate.

Posted by: Justsayin' at October 31, 2021 12:42 PM (Fs5vw)

225 Eh, I will only head toward Oatman when I'm on my way to 7 Mile Hill Shooting Range.

Posted by: blake

Going to have to schedule a Kingman range time MoMe
(And invite Weasel of course!)

Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 31, 2021 12:42 PM (5pwb+)

226 Geebus, someone please make the medicare commercials STOP!

Posted by: Infidevil at October 31, 2021 12:43 PM (QC3yT)

227 When it comes to burgers only places that are locally referred to with "Tavern" somewhere in the name are worthwhile.

The rest of the joints, What-a, In and Out, 5 guys, etc. are worthless.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 31, 2021 12:43 PM (BFigT)

228
That's good news according to your expectations read the other day...
Posted by: AZ deplorable moron at October 31, 2021 12:40 PM (5pwb+)

__________

We expected to get shellacked the whole weekend. We almost didn't enter, the panel was so bad. But Lila got three Breed wins in five shows, so, yes, good news.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 31, 2021 12:43 PM (/U27+)

229 CFC's had nothing more to do with the drop than sacrificing virgins in a volcano would have.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 31, 2021 12:33 PM (evAgx)

Crap, it needs to be a virgin?

Posted by: Joe at October 31, 2021 12:43 PM (oHd/0)

230 you mean misleading lab experiments that had absolutely nothing to do with the actual conditions were pushed to justify a huge money and power grab.

Like what, specifically? How are they misleading? Also, the measurements aren't done exclusively in a lab. My BIL is an atmospheric chemist who goes all around the world, including high atmosphere, to make these measurements. But I guess he's just in on the conspiracy.

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:43 PM (ZsR3z)

231 You think the period of time between the banning of CFCs and the claim that the 'hole' was closing supports cause and effect?

Yes. A large system like this would take time to react, especially because CFCs are so stable and long lived.
Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:41 PM (ZsR3z)

The last I read about the Ozone Hole over Antarctica is that it was proven to be season related.

Opened and closed on its own as it were.

I think that must be correct cuz that's the last I ever heard about the Dread Ozone Hole.

Posted by: naturalfrankenstein at October 31, 2021 12:45 PM (5NkmN)

232 Like what, specifically? How are they misleading? Also, the measurements aren't done exclusively in a lab. My BIL is an atmospheric chemist who goes all around the world, including high atmosphere, to make these measurements. But I guess he's just in on the conspiracy.
Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:43 PM (ZsR3z)

well if he disagrees, he's out of a job and a career. That's how the scam sucks every professional into itself. You aren't allowed to disagree or you're finished.

Posted by: Tom Servo at October 31, 2021 12:46 PM (evAgx)

233 The last I read about the Ozone Hole over Antarctica is that it was proven to be season related.

Opened and closed on its own as it were.

It is seasonally related. There is no dispute about that. However, what we're discussing here are long term trends for measurements taken at the same time every year.

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:46 PM (ZsR3z)

234 In 1984 I read the Global 2000 report commissioned by Pres.Carter.
I'm still waiting for the impending ice age and one billion deaths from starvation.
Posted by: Digoblins at October 31, 2021 12:41 PM (axyOa)

**

Someone posted this a couple of days ago. Newspaper clippings and what-not. Lots of fun:

Wrong Again: 50 Years of Failed Eco-pocalyptic Predictions

https://tinyurl.com/274rfxhz

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the vax for kids is brand new and never tested on ANYONE, see p14 at October 31, 2021 12:46 PM (cUuEU)

235
California HS football team, up 104-0, goes for a 2-point conversion. Real class, there.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 31, 2021 12:47 PM (/U27+)

236 Geebus, someone please make the medicare commercials STOP!
Posted by: Infidevil at October 31, 2021 12:43 PM (QC3yT)

They will be replaced by Car Warranty infomercials......

Posted by: Jak Sucio - Needs More Bleach And Another Shower Curtain..Blood Everywhere at October 31, 2021 12:47 PM (jvt6t)

237 well if he disagrees, he's out of a job and a career. That's how the scam sucks every professional into itself. You aren't allowed to disagree or you're finished.

He's a full professor with tenure, and is ready to retire. He's bulletproof.

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:47 PM (ZsR3z)

238 When it comes to burgers only places that are locally referred to with "Tavern" somewhere in the name are worthwhile...
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 31, 2021 12:43 PM (BFigT)

Have I got a place for you that will absolutely change your mind about that theory.

Posted by: naturalfrankenstein at October 31, 2021 12:47 PM (5NkmN)

239 Geebus, someone please make the medicare commercials STOP!
Posted by: Infidevil at October 31, 2021 12:43 PM (QC3yT)

Abolish Medicare.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 31, 2021 12:48 PM (R/m4+)

240 Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:43 PM (ZsR3z)

You do know that the Ozone hole has decreased and increased over the years since they began measuring. I think 2020 it was the biggest it's been since 1980. It has dressed again since then.

Posted by: Just a side note at October 31, 2021 12:49 PM (2DOZq)

241 Never been to In and Out burger. But then I have not been in CA for over ten years now.

How far east do In and Out go? I intend to retire in Texas do they have them in the Lone Star State?

Posted by: Big Verevolf at October 31, 2021 12:49 PM (Adlwz)

242 Remember when there was a hole in the ozone due to hairspray? You never hear about the hole because it closed naturally.

The sun won't set tonight unless people turn on their lights That's Science with a capital S right there.

Posted by: t-brimstone at October 31, 2021 12:50 PM (CTJwJ)

243 How far east do In and Out go? I intend to retire in Texas do they have them in the Lone Star State?
Posted by: Big Verevolf

There are a dozen or so in the DFW area.

Posted by: Night of the Living Tonypete at October 31, 2021 12:51 PM (mD/uy)

244 What are you disputing? The chemical concentrations are pretty readily measured. We know when CFCs were banned.

The CFCs were not universally banned, only in countries that were using RF12 while the DuPont patent was nearing its end.

If you look at NOAAs Global Monitoring site, you will see that CFCs have plateaued at their twelve atmospheric monitoring sites. That is, the "ban" didn't cause an immediate decrease because other countries with developing economies were increasing their use.

The ban only hurt Americans, like every other government action.

Posted by: Revenant Hick at October 31, 2021 12:51 PM (+LCoQ)

245 Someone posted this a couple of days ago. Newspaper clippings and what-not. Lots of fun:

Wrong Again: 50 Years of Failed Eco-pocalyptic Predictions

https://tinyurl.com/274rfxhz
Posted by: Moron Robbie - the vax for kids is brand new and never tested on ANYONE, see p14 at October 31, 2021 12:46 PM (cUuEU)

Wrote my thesis then. I swear every advisor on campus said i had to find a way to include the Report into the thesis in order to get it accepted. I was writing about the PLO. The thinking then was absolutely stalinist.

Posted by: Digoblins at October 31, 2021 12:51 PM (axyOa)

246

Like what, specifically? How are they misleading? Also, the measurements aren't done exclusively in a lab. My BIL is an atmospheric chemist who goes all around the world, including high atmosphere, to make these measurements. But I guess he's just in on the conspiracy.
Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:43 PM (ZsR3z)

And if he disagrees with the "consensus" where does his career go from there?

Posted by: Justsayin' at October 31, 2021 12:51 PM (Fs5vw)

247 Well, time to wander. Need to get mom for Sunday get together.

later again!

Posted by: blake - zombie lurker in marginal standing (2SdPm) at October 31, 2021 12:51 PM (2SdPm)

248 Posted by: Big Verevolf

Pretty much in all the large markets.

Posted by: Jak Sucio - Needs More Bleach And Another Shower Curtain..Blood Everywhere at October 31, 2021 12:51 PM (jvt6t)

249 What's the basis for this statement? The concentration of chlorofluorocarbons did decline, as did ozone depletion. Correlation doesn't equal causation, but the timing is pretty solid.

https://tinyurl.com/925sze29
Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:29 PM (ZsR3z)

NASA cannot be trusted on this, as they were part of the scam.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Prion at October 31, 2021 12:53 PM (P3gRi)

250 You do know that the Ozone hole has decreased and increased over the years since they began measuring. I think 2020 it was the biggest it's been since 1980. It has dressed again since then.

Could be, I'd have to see the cite. However, as I said, it's seasonally related, so T variations from winter to winter could explain it. If you read the cite I provided, so far the net reduction in ozone depletion is about 20%, which also matches the modeling predictions, so it isn't like we aren't still pretty close to where it was at the max, but the trend is encouraging.

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:53 PM (ZsR3z)

251 Of course it did, everything went to pump spray

Posted by: Skipjack the Ripper at October 31, 2021 12:54 PM (2JoB8)

252 And if he disagrees with the "consensus" where does his career go from there?

Again. Nowhere.

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:54 PM (ZsR3z)

253 >>> 222 Climate moms should shut their pieholes.
In 1984 I read the Global 2000 report commissioned by Pres.Carter.
I'm still waiting for the impending ice age and one billion deaths from starvation.
Posted by: Digoblins at October 31, 2021 12:41 PM (axyOa)

We don't need an ice age for that.

Posted by: Great Resetters at October 31, 2021 12:55 PM (ACi07)

254 I saw a blue Audi R8 on my way home. Vanity plate read STARK.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 31, 2021 12:55 PM (ZLI7S)

255 222 Climate moms should shut their pieholes.
In 1984 I read the Global 2000 report commissioned by Pres.Carter.
I'm still waiting for the impending ice age and one billion deaths from starvation.
Posted by: Digoblins at October 31, 2021 12:41 PM (axyOa)

We'll get there. Winter deaths of people who can't properly heat their homes on a blue-collar budget and starvation after water-limitations and abolishment of herbicides, pesticides, etc. leads to lower yields.

Posted by: NaughtyPinebox at October 31, 2021 12:56 PM (/+bwe)

256
Our local coven of Karen's are uncertain how to proceed. Trump and wife imitated the tomahawk chop at the Braves game. However, that action was used by the indigenous people when separating the scalp from a person of parlor. Which we think is admirable.

It's tough being silent on this issue. Any issue, for that matter.

Posted by: A Scold of Karens at October 31, 2021 12:56 PM (dQvv7)

257 How far east do In and Out go? I intend to retire in Texas do they have them in the Lone Star State?
Posted by: Big Verevolf

There are a dozen or so in the DFW area.
Posted by: Night of the Living Tonypete

23 and like 7 outside.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 31, 2021 12:56 PM (1t5dY)

258 All of the climate scams use time for their shield against accountability.

It's always 40, 50, 60 years down the road when the shit hits the fan.

All nonsense of course. Man can't do shit about the climate/weather or we would have made it happen in our favor years ago.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 31, 2021 12:56 PM (R/m4+)

259 My air conditioner won't work if you use refrigerant that is no longer under patent.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the vax for kids is brand new and never tested on ANYONE, see p14 at October 31, 2021 12:57 PM (cUuEU)

260 NASA cannot be trusted on this, as they were part of the scam.

This is one of the poison fruits of the global warming scam. People have lost trust in what should have been trustworthy institutions. However, if your only argument against data is "they're lying", there's no point to the discussion. I'll note that, as I mentioned above, the reductions match quite closely the modeling predictions. Conspiracies that rely on huge numbers of people keeping their mouths shut don't work. That's why AGW is such a laughingstock, and is very low on the concern list of the average voter.

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:57 PM (ZsR3z)

261 Ah, sorta like nat gas and coal. The rest of the world uses it, but not us.

Posted by: Infidevil at October 31, 2021 12:57 PM (QC3yT)

262 Oh shit, LOL... CFCs. We're going back into the Groove Yard of Forgotten Favorites. It was an obvious crock then, and remains so. What are we gonna do next? Midnight basketball?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at October 31, 2021 12:58 PM (/KPLX)

263 I saw a blue Audi R8 on my way home. Vanity plate read STARK.

**

We went to the Asheville area a month or so ago and saw a new $100K+ Land Rover with a bumper sticker criticizing the 1%.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - the vax for kids is brand new and never tested on ANYONE, see p14 at October 31, 2021 12:58 PM (cUuEU)

264 In and Out, elsewhere. One in Waco, one in Katy.

Posted by: Too Bad Costa Rica Sucks at October 31, 2021 12:59 PM (QZ/dC)

265 1ST AS NOOD, 1ST AT CALLING IT

Posted by: Skipjack the Ripper at October 31, 2021 01:01 PM (2JoB8)

266 >>We went to the Asheville area a month or so ago and saw a new $100K+ Land Rover with a bumper sticker criticizing the 1%

I assumed this guy was doing just the opposite. Tony Stark drove an Audi R8 in Ironman.

Made me laugh anyway.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 31, 2021 01:01 PM (ZLI7S)

267 Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:57 PM (ZsR3z)

Ask your BIL if he thinks the 'ozone hole' existed prior to CFCs.

Posted by: Just a side note at October 31, 2021 01:01 PM (2DOZq)

268 Abolish Medicare.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 31, 2021 12:48 PM

Why do you hate JJ Walker, Tom Selleck, and Joe Namath?

Posted by: Traitor Joe's Military Surplus, Vaccine and Massage Parlor at October 31, 2021 01:01 PM (dQvv7)

269 Infidevil

Even after Obama, coal powers ~ 20% of the US power grid

U.S. coal consumption by consuming sector by amount and percentage share of total coal consumption in 2020 was:

Electric power- 436.5 MMst - 91.5%

Posted by: NaCly Dog next year with Polka music (u82oZ) at October 31, 2021 01:01 PM (u82oZ)

270 I'll note that, as I mentioned above, the reductions match quite closely the modeling predictions. Conspiracies that rely on huge numbers of people keeping their mouths shut don't work. That's why AGW is such a laughingstock, and is very low on the concern list of the average voter.
Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:57 PM (ZsR3z)

Well, that's to be expected, when the models are constructed to mimic the natural variations, but simply ascribe a different cause.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Prion at October 31, 2021 01:02 PM (P3gRi)

271 I bet I could find someone to design a statistical model that shows that green grass causes a full moon.

Posted by: Justsayin' at October 31, 2021 01:02 PM (Fs5vw)

272 The last I read about the Ozone Hole over Antarctica is that it was proven to be season related.

Opened and closed on its own as it were.

It is seasonally related. There is no dispute about that. However, what we're discussing here are long term trends for measurements taken at the same time every year.
Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:46 PM (ZsR3z)

Even then, if you don't take into account things like the Milankovitch Cycles, solar activity, etc, you're just hammering a nail cuz you've got a hammer.

Not an expert at all. But, any atmospheric "science" that first points its finger at mankind is suspect in my book. And yes, becuz of the phone-baloney climate change scam.

Posted by: naturalfrankenstein at October 31, 2021 01:03 PM (5NkmN)

273 If you look at NOAAs Global Monitoring site, you will see that CFCs have plateaued at their twelve atmospheric monitoring sites. That is, the "ban" didn't cause an immediate decrease because other countries with developing economies were increasing their use.

Thanks for pointing that out. According to the plot I read, the decline started in the mid-90s, after the ban was implemented in '87. The concentrations for CFCs 11, 12, and 113 are all declining to this day.

https://tinyurl.com/2zv3a9cb

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 01:03 PM (ZsR3z)

274 Biden sings "Let's Go Brandon:"

http://bitly.ws/iHmv

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis, Domestic Terrorist at October 31, 2021 01:03 PM (sWM8x)

275 Yes. A large system like this would take time to react, especially because CFCs are so stable and long lived.
Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 12:41 PM (ZsR3z)

This is the reasoning behind Global Warming, Second Hand Smoke and Covid, you know: Something in the environment in such minuscule amounts that wihtout special tests we would not know it exists, and yet so world shattering on a generational scale that we must destroy the economy, entire industries and embrace fully the joys of Socialism because it is too late to survive any other way.

Change my mind

Posted by: Kindltot at October 31, 2021 01:03 PM (KbLYZ)

276 Alberta Oil Prion

Scary nic. No blood donation for you.

Why are there trees in the Northeast US and Quebec? Acid Rain was to wipe them out. Back in the 1970s, predicted for the 1980s.

Posted by: NaCly Dog next year with Polka music (u82oZ) at October 31, 2021 01:06 PM (u82oZ)

277 Not an expert at all. But, any atmospheric "science" that first points its finger at mankind is suspect in my book. And yes, becuz of the phone-baloney climate change scam.

CFCs are "unique", in that atmospheric CFC is almost exclusively manmade, so in a sense, it's a great test case.

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 01:08 PM (ZsR3z)

278 In n out quality control and consistency beat what a burger. Both good flavors. I find the what a burger store less diligent in cleanliness and maintenance

Posted by: Pete Bog at October 31, 2021 01:08 PM (Jzz++)

279 Change my mind

No thanks. I'm not Sisyphus.

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 01:09 PM (ZsR3z)

280 Why are there trees in the Northeast US and Quebec? Acid Rain was to wipe them out. Back in the 1970s, predicted for the 1980s.

I haven't looked at the lit, but as a first guess, I'd say because 1) the initial threat was overblown, and 2) a lot of the sulfur has been removed from our fuels.

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 01:10 PM (ZsR3z)

281 Even then, if you don't take into account things like the Milankovitch Cycles, solar activity, etc, you're just hammering a nail cuz you've got a hammer.

Not an expert at all. But, any atmospheric "science" that first points its finger at mankind is suspect in my book. And yes, becuz of the phone-baloney climate change scam.
Posted by: naturalfrankenstein at October 31, 2021 01:03 PM (5NkmN)

And, please, let's not forget that the vaccines will prevent getting the China Coof.

Posted by: Justsayin' at October 31, 2021 01:11 PM (Fs5vw)

282 If Democrats really believed their Schiff they would ban burger joints because of cow farts and Globull Warming.

Posted by: torabora at October 31, 2021 01:14 PM (qbjcJ)

283 I think when Trump gets back in, he should cancel all the vax and mask mandates and mandate that everybody must go to a Christian church (an actual church, not Scientology) or pay a $1,000 per month to the National Rifle Association.

Of course, it's unconstitutional, but so what? So are the Covidian mandates.

Posted by: Wade Hampton at October 31, 2021 01:18 PM (Su9Le)

284 Chik fil A carding folks for the clot shot.

Good news is illegal aliens won't get served.

Posted by: torabora at October 31, 2021 01:19 PM (qbjcJ)

285
CFCs are "unique", in that atmospheric CFC is almost exclusively manmade, so in a sense, it's a great test case.
Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 01:08 PM (ZsR3z)

Again, you're proof of the arrogance of leftist science. I don't think anyone comes close to understanding the unimaginable forces and variables involved in so much that you've attributed to mankind. It's become a reflex reaction to your type of mentality.

Posted by: Justsayin' at October 31, 2021 01:19 PM (Fs5vw)

286 I'm going to be a bit pedantic here but ImHoPep, you have scientific procedures reversed.

You have the burden of proof on whether CFC's affect the ozone hole over the poles, not the doubters because you are making the factual assertion and that assertion involves a govt policy depriving others of something--e.g. cheaper and more effective refrigerant. Furthermore, your BIL cite is irrelevant because it is your assertion here--appeal to authorities such as your BIL or climatologists' consensus is irrelevant. Even model fit does not means that a causes b because I can design a model to indicate any result that I like (aka curve fitting) to explain variance by choosing some variable and ignoring others (a major error in statistics is omission of key variables). So essentially, your opinion is as valid or not as the doubters because it rests on your assertion that your sources are valid while others disagree and you take those sources on faith while others claim that faith is unfounded.
That is not science--merely argumentation.

Posted by: whig at October 31, 2021 01:20 PM (9hXN1)

287 #280

Bad forest mgt is substitute for acid rain.
California and Oregon are burning forests down by the millions of acres.

Posted by: torabora at October 31, 2021 01:21 PM (qbjcJ)

288 #286

PLANCk's Constant

If you take issue with the facts then jam something in there.

Posted by: torabora at October 31, 2021 01:24 PM (qbjcJ)

289 That is not science--merely argumentation.

Disagree, but you knew that. I didn't make the assertion, the person dismissing the connection between the ozone hole and CFCs did. I've cited both experimental and theoretical work that strongly indicates a connection, so I don't know how that is simply an opinion based on assertion, unsupported by evidence. I did not say theory in itself is proof. I'm an experimentalist, and long ago learned that lesson. I'm not engaged in an appeal to authority, because I cite data, not pedigrees. If I wanted to do the latter, I'd have noted that my BIL is a member of the National Academy. I hope that helps.

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 01:27 PM (ZsR3z)

290 Personally, I am agnostic over whether the older CFC's affected the ozone hole or not but I see too much bald assertions by people asserting that the the fruits of Big Science must be correct and doubters must prove them wrong. That puts the cart before the horse and has real policy implications.

Some argue for zero risk assertions as the basis for public policy but that can lead to absurd results when tests can indicates parts per billion or even quadrillion. Thus you get demands that no radiation level is safe, masks, covid vax mandates, and so on.

The truth is that Kuhn had it pegged in his book regarding innovation and science. Revolutionary science is followed by pedestrian tinkering around the margins, which then results in the collapse of the endeavor when the contradictions in the present theory is undercut by additional evidence which causes a new revolution in science and so on.

Posted by: whig at October 31, 2021 01:28 PM (9hXN1)

291 In-N-Out undeniably has upper-echelon burgers for a fast food chain, although most debates revolve around a 50-51 love/hate relationship WRT their fries. Me? Can't stand them, would rather order an extra burger or Neapolitan milkshake instead.

Carl's Jr. has the scrumptious Double Western Bacon Cheeseburger, but, after adding the fried zucchini and a bottomless drink, the total gets to nearly $15 pre-tax. No thank you. The local burger joint and bar is cheaper and better...plus beer!

Posted by: Armchair Sinner at October 31, 2021 01:28 PM (Nig2g)

292 Illinois Legislature Votes to Eliminate Right of Religious Freedom from COVID Rejection Measures

https://bit.ly/2ZAOyDu

Changes are coming to a state law prohibiting discrimination against people for conscientiously objecting to medical procedures in the name of enforcing COVID-19 mandates, but the changes won't go into effect until July 1, 2022.

The Health Care Right of Conscience Act that's been on the books in Illinois state statute for decades prohibits discrimination against anyone for objecting to a medical procedure for religious reasons.

Over the past 20 months, COVID-19 mandates from Gov. J.B. Pritzker have evolved, including a mandate for health care workers and educators get vaccinated. In Chicago, thousands of police could be punished for not complying with the mayor's vaccine mandate...

... It's expected the governor will sign the measure.

"We have effective tools to fight this pandemic - namely, vaccines, masks and testing - and all of our communities are safer when we use the public health and workplace safety protocols we know to work," Gov. J.B. Pritzker said in a statement.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 31, 2021 01:29 PM (Do5/p)

293 Personally, I am agnostic over whether the older CFC's affected the ozone hole or not but I see too much bald assertions by people asserting that the the fruits of Big Science must be correct and doubters must prove them wrong. That puts the cart before the horse and has real policy implications.

I tried to be civil, but that's just bullshit. I said several times that atmospheric scientists beclowned themselves with AGW.

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 01:30 PM (ZsR3z)

294 ImHoTep,
Not much, go back and read how Wegener was treated for continental drift theory for decades after his hypothesis. By the way, your very assertion that others did it first is not scientific. The null hypothesis is that there is no relationship which is what they are stating. By you defending the positive H1 hypothesis that there was a relationship between CFC levels and the ozone hole is the assertion. The null hypothesis needs not to prove anything as most things are not related butterfly hypothesis not included. They are simply doubting that a relationship exists.

BTW, whether or not a person belongs to the NAS is irrelevant to the argument. That is the logical error of proof by authority that is granted by others in authority. The truth is that the work that your BIL did or others did stand on their own regardless of awards, etc. And those results can be questioned by others quite fairly using new techniques, mathematics, etc. Usually, the pedestrian science is actually undercut by someone quite unrelated to power structures within the discipline but by naive assertions that the emperor has no clothes.

Posted by: whig at October 31, 2021 01:35 PM (9hXN1)

295 ImHoPep

With respect to CO₂, using the Lovelock Gaia hypothesis, I would expect plant growth, and subsequent global greening, to be evident.

Has there been a check in any of the LANDSAT data to show this is true or not?

Posted by: NaCly Dog next year with Polka music (u82oZ) at October 31, 2021 01:36 PM (u82oZ)

296 BTW, whether or not a person belongs to the NAS is irrelevant to the argument. That is the logical error of proof by authority that is granted by others in authority. The truth is that the work that your BIL did or others did stand on their own regardless of awards, etc.

Did you read what I wrote. It was exactly that.

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 01:38 PM (ZsR3z)

297 West Point Cadets Who Chose to Leave West Point Rather Than Take COVID Vaccine Were Coerced, Abused and Discriminated Against

The following was provided from West Point Cadets - Willow Brown, Hannah MacDonald, and Nickaylah Sampson

In spring of 2021, we were told that our decision to volunteer to get the "optional" COVID-19 vaccine would not negatively affect our time as a cadet at West Point. That turned out to be a false promise.

https://bit.ly/3buwvkZ

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 31, 2021 01:39 PM (Do5/p)

298 whig

Go! Go! Go! Like your arguments!

And any scientist that knows history (ahem) knows that appeals to authority are usually right out. Or some laws are true only for defined parts of space-time.

The tragedy of Science is the most beautiful theory can be destroyed by a concrete and ugly fact.

Posted by: NaCly Dog next year with Polka music (u82oZ) at October 31, 2021 01:40 PM (u82oZ)

299 @295 For unknown reasons, I can't cut and paste your question, but here's the answer.

Sorry, don't know. I know there's more forested land than there was 100 years ago, at least in N. America, but that's not the same thing.

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 01:40 PM (ZsR3z)

300 Sometimes instead of instinctively running through a drive through, especially on road trips I'll just stop at a store or c-store and get a loaf of cheap bread, a salami or cheap bologna, mayo and a bag of chips. No more then 15 bucks and you got leftovers. Something my Dad taught me, he hated fast food.

Posted by: lowandslow at October 31, 2021 01:40 PM (4thlk)

301 Go! Go! Go! Like your arguments!

And any scientist that knows history (ahem) knows that appeals to authority are usually right out. Or some laws are true only for defined parts of space-time.

Oh, ffs. READ WHAT I WROTE.

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 01:41 PM (ZsR3z)

302 293 ImHoPep, was not referring to you supporting Climate Change which is the current term. In reality, most people pick and choose what 'science' they believe based on personal predilections and their assessment of risk. I am agnostic on CFC's and ozone holes simply because I have read of the arguments pro and con but have not personally delved into the actual studies conducted.

The truth is that we see reality through a glass darkly. You might want to read Nassim Taleb and realize that most assertions only represent partial truths, not full truths, and that accepting probabilistic assertions of reality are better than it exists or it does not exist type assertions.

Posted by: whig at October 31, 2021 01:42 PM (9hXN1)

303 Clyde Shelton

If the "vaccine" is a set up for more problems, they made a smart decision.

I think it makes a population more vulnerable. This is in line with the Bill Gates et al. decision tree for humanity.

The survivors of what is incoming will need to be more cautious in the future.

Posted by: NaCly Dog next year with Polka music (u82oZ) at October 31, 2021 01:43 PM (u82oZ)

304 ImHoPep

The greater forests in the US of A are due to the automobile. Oil usage led to the decline of the horse, and the need for horse ranches. The Eastern forests of today reclaimed all that pasture land of the 1870s to 1910s.

Posted by: NaCly Dog next year with Polka music (u82oZ) at October 31, 2021 01:45 PM (u82oZ)

305 The greater forests in the US of A are due to the automobile. Oil usage led to the decline of the horse, and the need for horse ranches. The Eastern forests of today reclaimed all that pasture land of the 1870s to 1910s.

Okay, but why the question?

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 01:46 PM (ZsR3z)

306 ImHoPep, was not referring to you supporting Climate Change which is the current term. In reality, most people pick and choose what 'science' they believe based on personal predilections and their assessment of risk.

Certainly true. However, given my science background, it would have been far easier to have simply accepted the climate change CW, and written applications for grants to study it. I try hard not to be one of the people you describe.

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 01:48 PM (ZsR3z)

307 ImHoPep

I did read your stuff. The best test of the hypothesis is dated predictions for the future. The flooding of urban cities predicrted in 2001 for 2010 did not come true.

Look where the official heat sensors were placed.

And solar cycle maxs have trended down for decades. This is ignored data by the Left. Whose every predictions does not solve mankind's actions, but transfers power to them.

Want to :solve: Climate Change?
1) Nuclear powers plants everywhere.
2) Better electric motors
3) More catalysts
4) Room temperature superconductivity.

Posted by: NaCly Dog next year with Polka music (u82oZ) at October 31, 2021 01:50 PM (u82oZ)

308 ImHoPep,
You asserted that your BIL was a climatologist that had tenure and was a senior professor. That is appeal to authority to buttress your argument. You demanded that someone else provide a citation. That is transferring the burden of proof.

For a period in my life, I did massive empirical studies. Don't do that anymore but it left me firmly ingrained how to deal with the messy world of empirical research and research design. In reality, there is a significant corruption of science into dogma where burn the heretic rules such as the fate of Judith Curry at GA Tech or others that have been hounded out of academia for expressing challenges to dogma.

Posted by: whig at October 31, 2021 01:51 PM (9hXN1)

309 @307 If you want an argument over those statements, I'm afraid you're in for disappointment. But just because AGW is a scam, and it largely is, that doesn't mean all atmospheric science is.

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 01:52 PM (ZsR3z)

310 You asserted that your BIL was a climatologist that had tenure and was a senior professor. That is appeal to authority to buttress your argument. You demanded that someone else provide a citation. That is transferring the burden of proof.

I only mentioned that when someone dismissed his veracity. THEY, not I, said that he was lying to get grants and avoid retribution. I pointed out why that was not the case. Not an AtoA at all.

I asked for a citation because someone else made a definitive statement which was, to the best of my knowledge, inaccurate. The burden of proof was on him, not me. Asking for a citation is not out of bounds.

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 01:55 PM (ZsR3z)

311 308 ImHoPep

I've been following atmospheric chemistry of decades. Your last sentence is correct.

We have direct data from satellites, sounding rockets and balloons, with airborne spectroscopy. We know of discrete chemistry in the atmosphere column.

It is the modeling of this data that is out of whack, and proven over time to be incorrect. Our models lack something, either in scale, granularity, or content.

Posted by: NaCly Dog next year with Polka music (u82oZ) at October 31, 2021 01:56 PM (u82oZ)

312 You demanded that someone else provide a citation.

What's the basis for this statement? The concentration of chlorofluorocarbons did decline, as did ozone depletion. Correlation doesn't equal causation, but the timing is pretty solid.

If that's your idea of a demand, I don't know what to tell you. That's how one asks.

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 01:58 PM (ZsR3z)

313 It is the modeling of this data that is out of whack, and proven over time to be incorrect. Our models lack something, either in scale, granularity, or content.

As Feynmann said, "any theory, no matter how elegant, if it disagrees with measurement, is wrong", or words to that effect.

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 01:59 PM (ZsR3z)

314 At least I think it was Feynmann.

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 02:00 PM (ZsR3z)

315 ImHoPep

And Einstein also. Which is ironic, because Einstein was unhappy with Quantum Mechanics and Black Holes.

Posted by: NaCly Dog next year with Polka music (u82oZ) at October 31, 2021 02:02 PM (u82oZ)

316 ImHoPep

A humble scientist knows Climate Change is a world-wide scam. Yet we distort a working world order for one that does not work.

Hard to explain this in a reasoned, calm, manner. It seems close to cargo-cultish insanity.

I aver it is something in our ur-DNA. Which is why nice things are going away.

Posted by: NaCly Dog next year with Polka music (u82oZ) at October 31, 2021 02:05 PM (u82oZ)

317 ImHoPep

Have a great day.

Remember, even the best navigator or scientist is off course some of the time. We need to be cautious.

Posted by: NaCly Dog next year with Polka music (u82oZ) at October 31, 2021 02:08 PM (u82oZ)

318 Have a great day.

Remember, even the best navigator or scientist is off course some of the time. We need to be cautious.

Ditto. Thanks for the discussion.

Posted by: ImHoPep at October 31, 2021 02:09 PM (ZsR3z)

319 7 Even the MFM having to admit Biden's crash "for now".

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/
1454833540886114304
Posted by: andycanuck (UHVv4) at October 31, 2021 11:03 AM (UHVv4)

The labels on the polls aren't in standard English:

The country is:
headed in right direction
off on wrong track

"The country is off on wrong track"? NBC has been taken over by aliens.

Posted by: dial m for murder at October 31, 2021 02:35 PM (TZgEk)

320 A man can dream. I dream of Newsom trying to shut down in-n-out and then finding himself in mortal perile, and being driven into exile for it.

Posted by: Anotheranon at October 31, 2021 02:45 PM (7LC5b)

321 And there's still a line of people waiting for service at every one of their locations..

Posted by: Michael Christian at October 31, 2021 03:27 PM (/LbTY)

322 Funny how the rules in CA only apply to Christians or Republicans.

Posted by: APJ at October 31, 2021 04:33 PM (G1dq6)

323 And In/Out burgers are good but their fries are awesome! Better than Micky D's.

Posted by: APJ at October 31, 2021 04:37 PM (G1dq6)

324 Wish they operated in Virginia. As for SW AL, American AL, WalMart, AT&T, Kellogs, and all the other police state agents they can join the Let's Go Brandon hit list.

Posted by: Harry at October 31, 2021 05:30 PM (EcD5Y)

325 Had In n Out for lunch today...happy to support that business.

Posted by: NeverBiden at October 31, 2021 06:27 PM (uA3aJ)

326 I would like to support In-N-Out, but one problem...their burgers suck ass, and their fries are worse. And if you think In-N-Out is superior to Five Guys, you have lost your friggin mind.

Posted by: FriscoYoda at October 31, 2021 06:32 PM (+56GQ)

327 In-n-Out is the only thing I miss about moving out of that wretched state.

Posted by: The Accidental American at October 31, 2021 06:58 PM (2Gpbd)

328 California has been called the land of fruits and nuts since the 60s. Its only gotten worse as the gene poll has collapsed.

Posted by: Harry at November 01, 2021 10:36 AM (EcD5Y)

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